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Charlo Doubleheader & UFC 253 (Adesanya Costa, Reyes Blachowicz) + McGregor Paquiao

THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas

1:33:37 hr | 2 months ago

Charlo Doubleheader & UFC 253 (Adesanya Costa, Reyes Blachowicz) + McGregor Paquiao

"Welcome to the fight with Teddy Atlas, I'm Ken Reid joined as always by the Voice of boxing and legendary trainer. The Great Teddy Atlas come into today from Sunny Las Vegas Nevada special in-person episode Teddy. How're you doing? Good Yeah it looks. As always thank you. Great. You gotTa turn dog just before we went on the air anytime. We're doing an impulse guys saying is he's staying. In another. Adjoining rooms have a nice. We hear. Really Nice. is in the adjoining room, I'll just in my makeup. Yeah you bruce all gone and magical makeup now. Healed up. Thank God take your Athletic Greens. Yeah. It helps definitely does no doubt about that and it helps if you move your head. You know best defense is not getting hit. What of course for the people that were listening to last podcast thankfully y'all k. you fell off your mom by come. Up a little bit but little bit you good now and I say to all the people out there please please you're out there doing exercise Dec- Ken, the great shapes and keep doing it. But if you're riding a bike, wear a helmet hundred percent. Home it. Might not be a podcast today. nope. NOPE definitely not and we've got a lot of stuff to cover today huge night of action. Last night, we had double header pay per views, Charles Brothers in action and UFC. Incredible fight all good fights to me. I was thoroughly entertained by every single one of the main combing and the means on both cards. But before we get into the UFC, let's break down these Charles Fights I got Jamaal Charles Oh inaction against surrogate revenue Chango. Very competitive fight in my opinion Carlos Jab looked to look to be the difference maker for the most part but. Let's hear what the expert has to say listen I hate to. Go against a little bit but I'm going to go against you a little bit and disagree a little bit. But you said it the right way. But I will say that it was a it was a very good one sided fight. WHO's a very good one sided fight because there was only one guy winning the fight overnight night long. But shallow got tested and that's what we all wanted to see. We wanted to to get tested. You know we wanna see champions as we want to see. People that are doing well unless you a psychopath and you see people do well, which feel bevy people out there that are in that category I really do get better people get better because I hope you all too. Well, hope everyone does well, and you should never begrudge somebody for doing well, but you do you get that on. Reminded of that on the Internet, or my kids can remind me because I don't go on. So he can't get me. Can't. You can't I'm I'm invisible I don't watch it but I know that it's out there and I know that people can be hateful and all that stuff and sometimes it's it's out of not having a live sometimes it's out of resentment sometimes it's out of whatever ridiculous places and should never be from those places you know we should all be we should be rooting for each other. Really. Agree and fill that. Maybe someone shooting for me back That's nice. That's called humanity. They're so nice things. Tonight's concept. We should try a little more y'all and So you know we all WanNa see. Everyone. Wanted to see sugaring Leonard get tested the golden boy town world and some out of jealousy. You know all cheesemaker money's in always fighting on network WANNA go metal. He worked his backside off to get their number one. Yeah. He's got God given talent, but he worked to develop it and but. There were people that didn't really give him his just to until. He got tested and I understand it. They wanted to see more than a talented guy. They wanted to see more than a flash a guy that had on extraordinarily fast hands a great smile. And did seven up commercials they wanted to see. The have that it. What would he do? I'M GONNA tough situation in my life people thinking what's he going to do when it gets tough? Does he have that it? will be find the way. Is he one of us? Is he tough. Is More than just golden more than Josh Shiny. As something beneath that, shine. and. Until he fought Roberto Duran and lost, he didn't really have the adulation of the respect and those kind of dimensions. You know he was known as a tremendous fighter, but any got it. In this way shallow to a certain extent even though he's been a champion for about five years, I'm not looking at the papers you guys who wants to back up on that but I know pretty much what I'm doing. I'm in a neighborhood he's been a champion about five years about eight title defenses with different titles and. He really hasn't for anybody's significant probably is best opponent was Austin trout and trout was probably on the other side of his career to be. Quite Frank we have a habit of being quite frank on this show. Way that's why I feel. So blessed with all the people that watch us that they don't mind the truth. Yeah, and that's nice to be reminded that I can still be something that people will isolate look for. And a lot of times if you don't see that nowadays people hide from it and we'll continue doing best in that department and he really. He really. This was his best Bowler Fighting Devon shankill they're very gentle and home. Again. Everyone knew that he's a good looking kid him and his brother they could do you know they could do They could do commercials I mean those guys could be models. You know they could be g Cuba him and but they want to see more than that. Yeah. All they fight is not can they fight all the fighters? Will they fight? Will they let you down? Or will they let you? Do they deserve this? That's what I was trying to get at. That's what People WanNa see, and that's what this fight was about. It was about Charles being tested maybe for the first time. And not to know if he was good but to know. If he could be trusted. If he deserved what he was getting. Hey guys just want to give a quick shout out to our newest sponsor power dot check him out of power dot dot com. My friend Lance Armstrong turned me onto this product about a year ago I've been using it for running recovery ever since I use it religiously it's incredible for. Injury Prevention Injury Rehab. Think of it as like a high-tech massage device Raub I've actually got it on now we. Went for a run. Rob's gut it on. I've got the device on my calf rob zoom in here to show you how active this thing is. It really passively activates the muscle causing like soft tissue, neuromuscular stimulation, which promotes blood flow recovery. 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Hanging, out in the middle of Lexington Avenue and Broadway. Hispanic traffic comes. Get hit by a car or punch. She wanted to close the gap and so he needed to raise his who strong the accurate his jeff was good too. But Charles was better. It was all about the JEB early on and as I always say it's about geography who owned the geography they needed to own. In that ring to the most part who was most consistent with having the right geography and I think Charle went and visited a realtor. In all and got a little bit of A little bit of advice from good real to that said, hey, and you fight coming up. It's about location location location. And he was cognizant of that. You could see he was going to control that outside try to. Try. To make different Shaneco go through a bad neighborhood and get mugged Yep make them earn his way in control real state control real estate. Control geography keep geography you need, and Challah was doing that for the most part. And then. Came the seventh round. And he got tested because Shaikha was that that. Mako. breakpoint way had to really up the octane. He really had to go to com free or four five to turn around, and he did and all of a sudden fight looked like momentum was going to swing in a different direction. He started doing it. I was like whoa now it's a fight. Because of in life. People have heard me say this before. You're not in a fight. On. So there's resistance something to overcome. You're not. It's just an athletic division up to that point. And if you're more athletic than the nick and I'm talking about maybe athletically mentally to. Mentor athleticism you in a boardroom, you're not challenged you're in a courtroom you're not challenged. Your doctor, you're not challenged. But then all of a sudden one day you get challenged, you open up a person, the things that are supposed to be there that not. The the things that the biology book to medical school told you was it's different. Some arteries got pushed around in a car accident something got changed. Oh. My goodness. Now, you find out if your doctor. Sue same thing in life with everything. Now you find out if the guy's a fighter when there's something overcome and it was something over calm. In that, after that seven I was watching. Like Hawkeye this, see how shallow would behave. and He came back in the eighth I. Think it was the eighth eighth. And he gave a champion he behaved the way that. You want you guys to behave. Whether the heroes whether the what have you WANNA call it but you want them to behave. Duran forced Leonard to be in a situation of first time where you saw more than the talent. We got to see sugar. Ray. Leonard, how he behaved and he behaved like a fighter. Shallow one but I think that analogy is fair. and. It's. It's right and people I got to give a little more respect for Challah. Because I saw it. Some people say could win long ago but there was spies even later in a fight when again when Devon Shaneco made a little run. And tested more than the athleticism more than the XS and Os more than a technique more than physical talent of cello. What's inside? So. For me that's what this fight was about really and listened for full disclosure because if you're going to be candid, you're going to be candid on both sides of the street right when you call someone else out and you call yourself out. I said different tranquil would have a good shot to upset the big favorite shallow I was wrong. But. I was right. In a way that. He was going to be tested. There was going to be a reason to think that can happen that at least that at least that justified my pick for me is that. It showed that there was a reason to think but Challah proved or turned out to be what it we supposed to be. To make them the favorite. He, he proved to make the oddsmakers, right. By having what had to be there when that moment came and he did. But. What was right about was his brother we'll get to that later but I said also doing that show that his brother against Rosero would either win one sided fight of very unanimous. Thing. Is Very unanimous is. One sided unanimous, unanimous or not. disease or he would stop them the knife and we stopped at the Eighth Yep. That's close. That's not too bad. So maybe you people out there you know. That have to Dartboard with my pick shot it. Away from my nose. You know a little bit this week you know appreciated because I up for a little bit there. But at the end of the day, no excuses, there's no excuses in life. There's no excuse in this business. Challah was better guy but he had to prove use a better guy. Yup Not not just the fast guy or the flesh guy. Would you often is with the way that they match lot the fighters over there quite frankly everywhere I shouldn't say just Dan PBC, and you know but everywhere. That's the that's what they do they. They looked at give their guy obviously an edge until they finally get to a fight. That's so big and the money demands. that. You can't be having you cake any to. where it becomes a fifty fifty Friday now you know. But other than that, it's not going to be with these promoters they're going to protect the stable they're going to protect their piece of property they're going to protect their investments you know. No matter what you people think no matter what you demand no matter what you WanNa Liz you demand loud enough. Strong. Enough. then. Sometimes you get what you want. But. Thing that ever jangled did wrong. I know that in certain areas, he's not as good from a physical standpoint, but he's a tough guy they both are but it's tough son of a gun. But what he did I thought he could have done better. That the corner maybe I don't know if they whispered this zero or not. But obviously wasn't gonNA it was about geography again, Charro control the geography needed on the outside we had an edge faster you know. Just, his style set him up to be on the outside long ago tall And he he? He made it defied where needed to be for the most part, but Devin jangled early poets, the fight, and even later was able to get inside spots, but he didn't stay there. You know custom model would've went nuts he would frigging hit me with a with a two by four If I had a fighter doing that he was what is wrong with you you you. You know you can't went on the outside he has to get inside. You know he has to go through danger to get inside right he's got to take risks because trolley was doing a Helluva Java counterpunching very you heard couple times you know catch them coming in, but once you get in clean stay that. What are you doing I? Go back out. They take the risk all over again to get to where you need to get to if you have a chance to win the fight. And that was the one thing those little frustrating you're watching US different got in but then he'd go back out and for you people are saying shallow hand in his own handled on a little bit on. I'll give you that, but it doesn't matter because Solo could win has a better chance on the outside and he could Winnie the place but Devon shackled could only win one place. He ain't winning on the outside he has to be inside even if there is an inherent risk. So that was that was the thing that I thought broke down for me as far as what I'm supposed to bring to the fans Hopefully, I, do as far as you know the analysis that he should have stayed in and worked you know and and got himself comfortable's setup a tent you know had breakfast. Have dinner you stay there and work And Not Go back outside where you gotta be trying to get it again two seconds later. Again at the end of the day. What does fight meant to me? Was Follow. Proven himself I'm not saying he pulled himself through Manila but you know. Around but there was spots. And I was glad to see those spots that he had to show his worth in that area. Yeah. In fact, I thought that was one little spot where his body language changed a little bit to the negative cello. I'm sure most people. I don't know if they're going see it or be. Aware of it. But just where like after that seven trial almost. Not, Sun. It was later it was a few rounds later but he he did what we expect champions to do when tested. He got it right now he got the you know the ship was hit a couple of waves and Started going. A little bit north when it's supposed to go, he got it back contract if there was ever a fight that that. Led credence to your geography analogy I felt like it was this this fight because every single time deriving chango found himself on the outside getting set in the in at the exact wrong distance. Charl just popped shot at him in like pick them apart with with punches and his face looked like it but then he'd worked to get inside and you'd think he was gonna stay there and to your point. Second later Charlwood jabbing in from the outside again. But I. I thought it was to fight the game them respect because. This was the guy he was fighting who I always the best opponent that he's facing I. Think you agree definitely but. This is a guy who had. A lot of people be triple j you now look I. Think it's a shop one triple J so I'm going to qualify it. Definitely a lot of people thought he. I think you thought I wouldn't have had a problem with him getting the winning that fight it was razor and a guy who who fought. You know really any Jacob site with Danny Jacobs. So. There was merit to there's opponent real. And again, reason to say, Hey, let's see how he behaves. Charles deserves a lot of credit there. They actually they both do are now I want to I wanted to say one of there was a fight before the fight. Not a stance. But. There was a fight in a way that. SHOWTIME THE EXECUTIVES THE PEOPLE THERE whether it says for nosers it's hayme calls all the shots there. Really. he's the wizard of Oz. But. There was a battle of fight. To have to be one at figured out. Before the ring and that was the fight. With the UFC. Two. They made a decision to go on before the UFC. First. Of all the charging seventy five dollars. I don't know how that numbers but I got an idea. But and it was decent card but for seventy five dollars and then you're going up against a UFC. they made a decision you could see it they. They blinked they've blinked a little bit where and they'd be in boxing and PBC and showtime people because. They went on early. Would their best fight yup? That's not the way she. Did because they wanted to get in there. They wanted to get off the road for the caravan came. For the Big Fellas came and listen you fans out there. That are trying to attack me a little bit on. On twitter twitter twitter, whatever they call that thing. That I do now, my man rob takes care of it. On my right it robs the wizard of Oz. And he gets it out there for me But those guys that are giving me a little grief. You know what? First of all you're right. That that I've been. More. PUSHING UFC and I'm boxing guy, my whole life forty, five years maybe a little more and Yeah you know I gotcha but your question and really I think let me just fair question. I'm here to report. What's going on on the WEATHERMAN. I gotTa Tell You rain. Or of it's. Snowing. Over, it's going to be sunny. Given us a lot of study as. I've knows for you. It's been rainy. A little rainy. I'm not supposed to be. Portraying. God. You know. I'm just. I know the whole g Teddy's giving love to the UFC daddy drain US portray no one. I never betray. No, I'm not about to start at now at this point my life Okay. But. If you put on a lot of fights over them, less Monzon with Z. is where the heck it's been. They were the first ones out with and they're all spawn sessions and you was seized putting on your. Fights fights warmer supposed to say not saying and I'd say that I'm I'm interested in and I appreciate. The competitiveness that they're giving us the right I'm going to say it and part of his for you knuckleheads. That that you're aware that you know to get an umbrella. When you walk out so you don't get rained on. So that's all I'm not upset. I just figured. I straighten that out a little bit because. That's my. That's what I needed to say because. Again. They they won't put these will good fights put. They haven't been doing that and you of C. has. You know. And I use a Monica finished my argument on my statement with this I use a Monica that the Charles who was there night and the child who's had his Monica saying. Lions only K. Beautiful that represents boxing lions only sounds good. It's great. Beautiful. Okay. If it's lions only fine. I'm there. I wouldn't be saying that. But when it's lions in there with. Not Lying some. Really I don't know why but it hasn't been a lot of Lyons who lines that I've been saying. You got lines in there with prairie dogs. You. Know what if I want to see that I'm going to zoo when it's feeding time for the Lions? I'm going you know. Putting on. Putting it on my calendar that I gotTa Watch you know whether it's this whatever promotion it is a whatever network it is. I can watch it at this time and be away from something else to watch it. I'm not doing Y and I'm not lying to you guys. Lions. So needed to get that out of the way before we closed his up and also like to make a note of some of the fights that were the preliminary fights can again I don't know if we're the policemen of this stuff but. We didn't ask for the job but. Sometimes the job has for you. And I'm just I got a point out again. It's not the worst of the worst, but there was a fight. You gotta respect every fight and these guys this pinal he's thirty, five years. Old Twenty, one four. You saw the fight probably enrollment Yup and moments to yoga guy by Old Warhorse I. Think it's fair. Journeyman. Thirty five years old both southpaws and. Moments too strong a younger guy common common trying to break them down pianos boxing. He's doing a hell of a job winning a fight. I mean he's winning a fight and he's boxing. He's doing what he's got to. He's not getting involved in two. beat them to the punch. He's Potshot and Romano. Roman I'm sorry he's pod shot enrollment is he comes in, you know drawn the geography. And potshot them coming in moving to the sides, keeping them off balance and you know, and you wonder how long can you keep it up and then he was gonna fight and then as we went down the stretch as expected Roman a younger guy with all that pressure pressure breaks, pipes, pressure breaks, humans you know he started getting into them a little more. So there's no doubt that Roman came on in the last few rounds get manufacturer free Mr Spot Romans scored a knockdown in the last round just before the bell and a reference to Yeah Oh, that was a bad miss. And it could have been really important but it wasn't important. You know why that's why I'm talking about this. Because there's a reason why piano was like Plus twenty four, hundred dollars or two, hundred, million dollars with might as well. But he was a big dog is the reason why? Because the judge made their concept for the fight started yeah I said Yeah I'm tired of it but and this is one way or this has been fine all these nobody a care because it wasn't a big you know. Marquee. Why should we care about this kid? He deserved to at least be I'm not saying anyone he could have won but I'm saying that he deserved to be a to hear those scores really close. They should have been close and they want. And it was just proved that. The oddsmakers knew what they knew to make him the big favorite because. The judges would never gonNA give a chance because the other guy was to house fight the judges would never he and he didn't have a chance because even though it was a close fight. And it came down the stretch. They didn't have a judge like that at all. I'm just sick and tired of seeing that and I'm sick and tired of me only talking about the ones that are the big names, I wanna talk about the little guys too. Yeah. They put their blood and sweat and tears into the sport. They need to be looked out for somebody's gotta say. A change a damn thing but I'm going to keep saying it. But. Just. I just had to say that again, the schools proved, why would you talk the judges scorecards they had to be made up for the fight. And how? You see a judge with an array tons penciled. Can can look out. What? A At the end of the day. Also. The commentators midst I like fight is to get credit. For. What they doing other than being tough. And doing what most people would not be inclined to do going in that ring and facing yourself quite frankly. But. This. The moment made a beautiful move and nobody mentioned it, and that's the sweet science he was in the South Pole position. It was once I don't remember what was can but it was in the South Popa and suddenly. He switched right in the middle of an exchange with can be dangerous. He's switched to author dogs. Perfectly, just two cats were left took. Beautiful. Beautiful it like going to the Museum of Art scene a Picasso, the first time. Wow. and. He just switched and like he was in his position, you know he's over here and then he made sense he switched bang hoke was there because he switch any quarter of beautiful punch not to mention. Not much not a mention. you know I kind of get with cheese. Yeah now. None of much you know what I mean. Leave the onions out. Not a much out in the marist didn't have his best night we'll give them. I'm sure. Just Mars yeah, I mean it's a collective team. It's a team there. I mean I like Mars I, respect anyone who been in there. There's been in there and Don at Mars has been in. Don It. And you know. and was in a great fight I mean he's won world titles who's in a great fight with with crews with Santa Cruz unbelievable I matter of fact, quote that fight for years pin outdoors I think it wasn't in California So now I'm not saying him I'm just saying collectively like you know what I don't know if they allow us to talk more than four minutes. I mean the poor kid. He. Gets permission to talk because I like to hear what he's saying because he's done it. Yeah. He he's done it. Yup He's actually been there. You know if I'm going to have somebody paint my house I'd like to know that he painted houses. He's going to tell you how to paint and painted. Exactly you know I like to. I like to see dungarees with a few spots of paint on. Your. Point about the fights showtime rush to get that good fight Darren Chango and revie Chang going. Carlo on before the UFC main card started but I didn't understand shoehorning in that morning combat show and I like those guys who Thomas and the other guy. But that show in the talk show in the middle of the boxing cards so that they could wait until didn't have remote feel to that. No I'm not gonNA those guys I mean. A feel to it had a feel like we can't have our main events start until the US's over and that's exactly. It did because when the UFC. Over the harlow. Like you'll be conned. The two cello fights were awesome. I have no problem but. Instead of telling you. Hey, hey, guys. This is what we're doing. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean like if you go on a long trip with your family, you know you say someone's gotTa to go to the bathroom. We're GONNA pull over into the service. There's a reason. Yeah right and you explain it does anyone have to go to bathroom K. we're gonNA pull over gotta get something to drink. Hungry Yeah I. Don't have as in the middle of a show in the middle of momentum. You know good fight fake very, and then all of a sudden you know sitting in a service station and because then everyone's GonNa take out their phones and stop playing that silly game that sometimes frustrates me when I want my wife to watch a movie with me and she's playing that thing with the things that are bouncing up and tetris. Yeah. She's good at it. Yeah. Just saying now you could somebody. Be Honest with us. Guys. We gotta make believe rain delay something. Yeah and the guys doing the show I liked them. But my God talk show in middle of that car didn't make any sense at all. But nevertheless, like I said, I was too over quickly after the checked out saw Jamaal Charles and Jason Rosario was very good flight. Super entertaining curious to hear your thoughts on the. Finishes with the job to the belly Look like it knocked the wind out him. But I'm curious to hear what you thought of that knocked down because it almost looked like Rosario was convulsing. To the point where I thought something must maybe maybe had an injury that wasn't being reported because I've never seen anyone behave like that from a punch in the stomach but. I mean listen first of all I'll tell you what it wasn't wasn't what they first reported was it wasn't a solar plexus punch. Him in the belts over one, it deflected off his elbow. And it hit him in the low body in the low adamant abdomen. I'll tell you it was dramatic reaction You don't need Teddy Atlas to tell you that but. It was surprising. Was it was a it was a strange. Punch. Yeah. again, being honest I'm not making stuff up for the sake of making pumped to sound is way way that would would be more comfortable for people to say, okay, it was definitive because when it can't be I'm not going to be. Installed, that's the truth. And It was a strange bunch was a strange situation where it deflects office elbow, hit some in the lower body and then he gets this kind of reaction from it. Hey, it's possible and was there. We watched it you know To people sometimes when they've given up. Again. Probably knows who go down his pants but now when people. Give Up. get broken down when when you're when you're wind has been taken out of your mind more than just your body and then the body follows When you spirit has been. Damaged to you because two rounds early got trump when he was doing good and I want a change to whole face the fights, the momentum of the fight direction of the but. To people sometimes exaggerate an injury when they've given up and maybe even subconsciously not even consciously because they just. A combination of two, they don't WanNa be there no more. Yeah and does that happen sometimes when they add to it because they get hurt but they they definitely in that situation they've given up hope the one thing that when you lose hope it's over. I mean in life it's over and does that happen even to our great Warriors. It can happen to to some of them you know to not maybe not to the great one but. But anyone who gets in a ring to a certain extent is. Somebody that I give special admiration towards because that's damn hard thing to do to get shape of truth and that screwed circle and face another man. And to sometimes you get. Discouraged and. Beaten mentally where it reflects physically to man happens. Am I say that's what he did. No, I'm not saying that. But I think it's my job to put out everything that I've witnessed in my life. That I know exist in this domain. There's some people may not notice this in this domain. You know. To to the. People out there watching have you ever been in a situation where maybe you didn't even realize it but you know you got so beaten down mentally not even physically maybe emotionally that is started giving up maybe on a relationship maybe maybe in a business situation you started like. Given in a little bit. You know. trying to avoid things trying to avoid what? As opposed to avoid the battle, it doesn't have to be a physical battle. As, anybody ever been in In the boardrooms there where They went down the hallway. And all of a sudden. One of the execs came walking down. And they knew that they had to have a confrontation. And all of a sudden next thing you know they've found themselves. You know sometimes you drive a car I know I've done this and the colleges takes me somewhere and I say, how did I get here? So I'm constantly it took me somewhere that ever happened to you not in the crock driving a car and you wind up somewhere was on your mind was whatever and you didn't you meant to go somewhere else and all of a sudden. You just make you know next thing you know what am I going over here I'm supposed to be going. To this place you know. You know what I mean that ever happened just takes you somewhere no but a lot of times I've had things. Where I knew I didn't WANNA. Do It in subconsciously I think my mind was I'm going to ignore this and the next thing I know I looked down. I'm like, Oh my God I missed that meeting. Why did you do it and I knew I it do it. So well, I've been in a call where. My mind is all of a sudden and you know I might catch myself. I wasn't supposed to go here. But. You know it's not like I was sleepwalking but is consciously you you went where you might took give because. He was it was Kinda engineered in there. Well, you guys in a boardroom and all of a sudden had executive comes walking down and all of a sudden he finds himself in front of a water found. He didn't. He didn't come walking down that hole to go get water. And he's in front of the one of. And and just. Just happens to be that he stays there just long enough for the kind of path with his head down. Come on. Come on kind right. It happens life. Yeah. It's these things happen and. I'm just saying that. I'm GonNa go through the whole fight the fight say this. Obviously. Got Hurt. Rosero. Came ready to win that fight. He came prepared with the fight plenty was tucked up. He was more tucked up than money won the title. He was more defensively savvy responsible. It was talked up he was using his jab beautifully he was walking in behind the JAB neutralizing shallow keeping Charles from counterpunching really keeping follow defensive has he came in like I used to say on ESPN corner fights it was putting bugs on a windshield. Making it harder for the guy to see him coming you know, and that's what you supposed to do. He's coming in by the JEB where it's keeping other guy defensive allowing them to get in again, neutralize another guy controlling the other guy he did a magnificent i. but what happened in the first round of gets caught Charles comes out winging, catch them on top of the head and he drops them. So that's sometimes difficult to overcome. Bang you gotta today round coming out to shoot right you I startled offense and it's the big one for the belts so. That's that's something overcome. So takes him to routes to come third fourth fifth round. I. Had them with an alternate routes I had them into verse would enforce Rounds Six and I said Gee guys. He's tested Challah the brother and he he's in control of this fight I don't care what anyone's I know what I'm saying he's in control this fight I. Don't. I don't know what charges had although I did the one judge that I have is not a lot of judges that trust but a few of my. Steve, Weisfeld from Jersey he's pretty he's pretty consistent pretty I. Think he's honest and he he had close and I bet you Ilab your. But I thought it deserved to be because I thought that after that bad start. That Rosero got back fight and got in maybe even in front of the fight. You know you gotTa overcome that ten a to get it but he was on a verge of winning four straight and doing it simple talked up coming in behind the Jab and when he got close, he's banging the body got one forgoing low and all that. But he was he was getting what he wanted. Yeah. Controlling the outside on his way in. Keeping a guy defensive from potshot. No. Neutralizing a guy so to speak and then banging the body when he got close who's fighting a beautiful fight I, sometimes people have to get over you gotta get over the bad start that. That's part of winning the title. Sometimes that's part of life. If if we didn't overcome bed starts how many of us will be successful? Dot To. Money. So that's part of it. And he overcame that and he was on his way going into six round on my card, winning four straight rounds, and then at the end of the round he gets caught. A. Really Nice Kennel of took from shallow. Give them credit he stepped back according coming in on the temple. He got hit on his journey got dropped on top of the head on the temple. He gets dropped at changes everything and then and then figuratively. To win came out of his sails. In a bad spot after. The win came out and you could just see his body language everything chains like like he knew he was doing good news feel good and then all of a sudden, it's like this is kind of like destroy the protocols spiky. He never really got himself back and then the eighth round this happens. So you know. So the rest of it goes down the toilet, you know people forget about all that stuff by letting you forget you know he he came ready to win that fight give credit. He didn't win the fight, but he came ready. He came prepared he he was just you know. Chuck things. You know he was just going to crap table and drawn some coins up there he he had a plan. He had a plan. No, you're good at the crap. You gotTA play. Do you not play goes, Mambas. Money I always follow the plan anyway. That's that's what I saw in that in that fight and Of course it was shallow night, right? Yeah. Talked both Charles good good night football to them I think they both were tested at times both came out with victories. Jerry. One of the guys want to take shots like you said at the beginning of that, I'm not paying enough tension sometimes a box again. I'm always paying attention. But always gonNa tell you if take good I'm GonNa pay more attention and I'm going to say they're not good. And maybe pay less because. It's about earning the right. To. Have somebody watching you. And if you need any more proof. That you have see has boxes my sport, my life. But the truth is that it's replaced. Boxing has the number one combat sport right now if you need other proof other than the numbers that enough the numbers that doing. It's no comparison. But other than that. My tweet. I get five hundred times more responses when I tweet on UFC and rob could attest to that. Right. We got a Bible here. I get five hundred more response to a tweet that they do and boxing. So you guys want to make me feel a little different. tweet respond to the trade sent then. I. Don't sleep with somewhere because the fights won't good. Anyway. Well, speaking a box in the UFC. Oh, before we get into the paper fuel and get your thoughts on. Potential fight that was announced by. Conor McGregor against Manny Pacquiao. I can't imagine that this one goes very long. I think that this is just my opinion on the Mayweather McGregor fight I thought Mayweather. Almost carried him for nine rounds until he decided to pick it up and then just got him out of there but I can't imagine pack. Yeah. Coming out as defensive or as. Focused on counterpunching as floyd I don't know this this fight. It's almost like a sideshow to me at this point. But wanted to get your thoughts on now a pack down McGregor no listen. I didn't even know you're going to bring it up, but it's an automaker. It's an region and it's out there. We try to cover everything for you guys you guys. So first of all, I disagree with you. On one. Floyd didn't. Carry McGregor. McGregor earned the right. To Get Credit for his performance but this a couple reasons a couple things at play here that that made it happen. One Floyd was forty years saw that's number one. He been inactive for two years. Right to an years going into that fight and you know. So that's that's number one that that has that alone. Is Going to Compromise fighter that's that's going to have his effect. Okay. So so again, active forty years old. And Floyd to counterpart. That's how he made his living. So we got fifty. That's how he became Floyd Money Mayweather He's a counterpunch. We don't go after you for the most part that's not as forte. That's not his thing. You, know. It's like we'll talk about house painters for that's like your house painter do you have to put up cabinets? You know what I mean. He pays. And if he's on, he's going to tell you put captain sub. You know can yeah. I, I paint because my put him up there might be crooked. So. Floyd was forced because Kinda wasn't engaged with them when connor was gonNA use his length which he did in his southpaw stance and box on the outside and he did a good. Game All the credit in the world to Kinda. SMART. He's a small promoter. He's smart dad he's he can't be one and then nabbed the other. Yeah. YOU SMARTER NOT SMART. He's smart. He knows how to make money knows what to do. He's a a promoter, Mike Floyd and like mom and Allio I mean this guy he's extrordinary and that's why I made so much money. He was able to sell this put himself in that spot and get people to come and believe. So he gave himself his best chance McGregor. Understand geography. Again that he needed to be on outside, he was long south southport he was going to box on the outside try to give routes. To survive tried to see what happened if he could get into the fight longer and. That's what he did and he was allowed to do it because of the age because of the amount of time that floyd been off and more at least it helped him he deserves credit for doing it but it helped him. BECAUSE FLOYD AIN'T GONNA go get you. Floyd is is not designed that way. So it took a while for Floyd really realize. I better go get this guy because I actually. I. Doing it for sportscenter. And I have no problem saying I macgregor a lot of box. Guys will love me even more for this. I Macgregor winning would federally you had it? Any other way I don't think he'd be an honest. Yeah, he was. But you knew we was winning the battle going GONNA lose the war kind of situation. He wasn't GonNa win at the end of the night because you could see was getting to him but he's started putting pressure on because he knew he needed to. So he covered up what did you do? This this floyd off patio because he volved her latest stage in his career where he wasn't doing that as much legs while while he's moving is using his legs against canal but when he four-pack Yahoos packed, who's just potshot no right hand. So for some reason Paki, our training never made an adjustment to get hit with right hands on I long lead right hands and they got beat basically with that punch but. It lets people say CAPAC compromised with his show I don't know look like he threw the push it pretty good to make I don't know but. Whatever and pack as a great fighter. But. Floyd. Oh you need to know is he he he went into the peekaboo? Forgive me. That I'm going to. But if you want to learn about the people you go to they NAMIC STRIKING DOT com. Yeah and Doing videos, I did the basics and excuse me for being this. Myself Too low myself to this. Commercials of myself but. They don't pay me here. Okay. So I got a I got to do some. He gets paid. Nath. Let it green supplements. Thank God. Thank God especially with we have. This hedy and Got To be hydrated and GONNA be able to survive the environment. Thank God. But other than that, I got to pick up a couple shillings. You know here and there and listen all kidding aside it's a great company that masses and what they do make in. Combat. Videos. To the best in the world and they've been good enough to come to me and dynamic striking I've done the. Fundamentals of bogs and that's up there the peekaboo. It's up there and And then the last one that we just did it's going to be open about a week or so the fourteen grade signature punches of the great fighters in the history of the sport signature punches ain't. By the way we talked about the solar plexus punch that wasn't I showed the Solo Flex Punch to was. Bob Fitzsimmons. The real the real solo plugs punch but I digress purposely and getting back. Getting back to this, floyd talked up peachable and he just walked in and that's not his way but he knew he had to and he broke down Conn for the takeaway round comes about events and he finally pulled out with the pressure and reason it took so long was because he was doing only do he realized it took him about four rounds to realize oh shoot. I might actually be losing his fight I figured get on the ball here and just fight the guy just go get the guy put them in an uncomfortable place. We've not used to go knees rounds. You know where you where you only can do this fight box and I'm GonNa take advantage of my experience and And being a great fighter, a great champion I'm going to walk them down and get it done. Do what I gotTa do, and that's what the great ones don't. He did it. You know and I think that. I think this fight. With Paquito. A. Couple the couple of the same things there. So people forget packers forty three, but he could make him forget by how marvelous he's been performing. Isn't it extraordinary? Pete's Keith Thurman a young guys unbelievable real good fighter Keith Irving had been off. Stuff going on a lot of people don't point out but Keith. Thurman had been off about two years two and a half years we surgery and different stuff at any had one fight back. And he didn't look. No, he got hurt. He didn't look good against the tough guy but a guy that shouldn't give him that tough fight probably and a guy who had moved on from junior welterweight. Full pledge while two-way but he He really. He peaky Thurman. So he's like forty two years old down money. And you know. So he he's definitely not in the prime even though he's been again, I have to say he's been. Fooling everyone shock and everyone doing extraordinary a tenth round. Thank you see. That's why robs the best you know I feel. So like I'm in such a professional environment here. No really it was like being back at espn you know put better. Better, you don't. Get it right there. It took him ten miles to bring him down. Satan, he finally got to him and but in this fight with. This proposed fight is not major it'll take. No I think they have the same manager. Yeah. They do crack Yo in McGregor. So it probably could be made because you know people love these things. They loved these these crossover fights with celebrity type fighters, names were they get excited about it. You know and they think that it's supposed to the two different sports fans. Oh Yeah. We're. You know the mixed Maheshwari guy could've beat the bugs and guy. But what they forget is a box guys always going to win because because it's not with mixed mosher watts rules. Exactly. It's like going in there with a with a lion, but the lion don't have any teeth already clause. Allying anymore it's just a big cuddly thing that my grandson would hog. Maybe I would let them but I mean, you know, I, it's not dangerous not really a lion anymore and so these these guys like McGregor he he's going in there without his teeth and his claws. So if that's what you look at a dual argue who's better, it's not a fair argument fernow judgment or contest. So. But people will come out and they will bite they will go crazy and they will buy it and for me. You know. The one thing it taken away the age. Of. One thing that's different than with mayweather is pack your will get after might from the beginning because this asylum I agree his style is not to laid back although always not as aggressive the last few years he used to be he's made a concession on that he it's only in spots he's not quite as but still he's an aggressive fighter that that's How he made his bones, just like I said that mayweather made his by counterpuncher. So that's the one big different standards that McGregor will see pressure that backyard will be after, and maybe that won't be too good for for McGregor go maybe Baggio forty-three won't be able to sustain what he wants to sustain even with a guy who's not a professional boxer. But At the end of the day, they have the monkey names and. You know I, it's an it's not really so much athletic ventures. It is more super bowl. Yeah. You know and they know how to do these. Now they've made money with them. and. I'm sure is a lot of money. Yeah. Make money. They make money with it. Well let's talk UFC. Coleman Yon Black Kovic Beats Dominic Reyes convincingly. I gave him a kick in the ribs. Look like rays have been shot with a sniper rifle their blood broke a bunch of blood vessels and then he just pounded him out I mean. I think I sent you guys a tech same really looks like he's just got in a car accident. He was a mess after the fight. I was surprised at how one sided it was but would you notice in that one? I noticed right away they raise was small. That's for sure as the first thing I notice. And? Here's the interesting thing. We'll get to the main event in a second but. The difference the opposite of the main event. Where the biggest Guy Kosta right in the main event I'd. Impala cost. The bigger guy. Didn't really come with plan. No other than be big YEP in this one. The bigger guy. But Kovic Blood Kovic. Thank all my men. Black. Kovic. Came with a plan, not just to be big to be smart. That's what I love. About. Hugh AFC guys. It always comes down to the science I don't care how tough your, how strong yaw you still. have. To Be Smart. You know what I call them smart. Monster. Yeah got to be. SMART. And I'm you just a monster? You know then you know you get a swamp monster, he's going to beat you. Know because you're gonNA fade come this. You know use to strengthen that little bit of smart. We'll give him an advantage so. They still go to sweet science tissues realizes, Hey, these contests and that's the first thing that struck me as more all my God. He looks almost smaller. Well, I know what he's gotTa do he's got move and he showed it. He's got a movies gotTA keep Blah, conference, Kovic, the covert slightly write that down. Coleridge I'm always surprised when when two guys make wait the day before the fight and then get in the ring and one guy looks so much bigger. How much bigger that guy can get both Wade the same way twenty, four hours because they're big guy frame framing they blow up, they hydrate they. It's like a sponge. It's like dry out a sponge you seen swap. Out and then over sudden, you put it in what about? Well, it's to the human body does the same thing and it doesn't mean you always have an advantage. Can make you sluggish shoot they can be you know there's a science to do in the right way and also I'm sick and tired of the people. Always, say, Oh, the big guy cheese scary and I get it all. He's GonNa crush he's going to do this you know. Well he's got the event who says he's got the advantage to other guys fast. Yeah. The other guy may be smarter but it technically so who says so until it shows itself yeah, and it was an interesting fight even always one sided because of what I'm talking about. That he got the smaller guy. In radius who knows he's got a movie can't stand in front of the bigger guy. So trying to keep more balanced trying to find spots to attack safely. Like I say he's kind of like that Superintendent Remember Superintendent boating years ago they had giant. Yeah. and. It had like ten thousand keys on and. There was a key to every door in the building. None of the marked. So it's like he was like that superintendent looking for the right key to get in couldn't find it. nope. To bigger key ring ever found it so. Here he is he's he knows what has to do I'm a smaller guy you know and. I'm a I'm a flea party. Of Hornets here you know I've got to look around I got my spot to get it and as he's doing the debate guy his interest behaving only like a big guy he says I know what he has to. He's got to keep me balance and then he's GonNa sniper me. Well, you know what I'm GonNa take his legs away. You know I'm Gonna I'm GonNa, take his legs away. So he starts cracking his lakes in boxing. You know and it's interesting that happened in the main event and box you have a fast the guy what do we do? We go to the body we take as I always put water in the basement take air out of the tires. So the guy can't move and then. You know the guys cooperating which you sit in front of you when he shouldn't soon. Funnier. So that's exactly what happened. But Kovic to his credit he takes he takes the wheels away lets the air out of the radios by cracking his legs with his feet. And next thing you know he's got raised to one what he wants right in front of them raised in, want to be in front of them, but he might not have had a choice. and. You know physically and he is. He's in front of them, and here's another science thing for you that I give full credit to Kovic for house he end the fight again, not just being bigger guy. I know people are going to say Teddy. You see that love took it landed ten. Yeah. But you see how he landed it he timed it. He had raise. He invited raise in known each day in fun to Tron exchange and end in the middle of the exchange raise troop too many. So you gotTa have a sense of how many control can I to get a tro five. I have time for if you drop five with the one by you get caught in the middle of the fourth. The science. So he led ray is raised wrote a combination look good for a minute and then right there by he turned to a love token a combination beautiful and that's what I, respect. That's what I appreciate. That's what I admire. That's what I'll bring into you to make sure everyone sees wasn't just big left took that from the bigger guy it was time love talk from the Big Guy and that ended the fight I. It was magnificent job well done I knows one-sided but was one side for those reasons not only because it was bigger he he found a way to use a size to an event to get the smaller guide to cooperate with him. And he took advantage of it. That's one of the things that I appreciate most about doing this show is the things that I. You know you watch the fight and there's a lot of fights going on and you miss the I miss little things like that that you pick up on his how you're right? He did he invited him in. Everything you said I just I just saw an exchange where the guy caught him. In one person who gave you showed after the fight before we get into his fight in the main event is Israel out of Sonya said that he watched breakdown of his fight with Kelvin Gas Jhelum and he said I was surprised he knew you how how well-versed you were in boxing but he was surprised you picked up on all the little traps he was. Setting they everything he was doing you appointing out and only someone with your experience would notice those things and there's other guys out there. But he had a lot of respect for the fact that you pointed out everything that he was doing, which is why I think he sent you a nice message on Instagram Jeff but yeah. I like I like to think special. More than his town but I'll let you lead the way. So in the event we got Israel out of Sonya Against Paulo cost a tons of bad blood. These guys wanted to kill each other and wow, what a one-sided beat down I mean just an absolute destruction to your point earlier about the bigger guy we took a Robinson maybe the greatest fight of all time in boxing once set. I got address him up before I take them out until now. Pala, cost it's your earlier point seemed to have no plan stood in front of them. Acted foolish? Getting, kicked marking the kicks until he couldn't walk them anymore and when he finally started acting foolishly he was hoping that that was. That was going to be part of his fight. His strategy is straight that that that was going to help wasn't helping with the wheel pro no, it was a one-sided absolute. Full formed alley I love. My favorite people on this planet especially human being and he made it transformation. To another person. After ten years of. Basically. Living with the ghost of Zaire. and. what came after that, and then came back and transformed himself to a stronger guy not physically but mentally yeah. He's a special guy who chose format and and. This was forman holly I that's what it was because alley recognized formulas at that time in his life he won't deny is. Being a bully. And you know what happens when you stand up to a bully? When you stand up to them not just physically but mentally. They they start to lose their power. It's. They don't have anything else like, Oh my God. And that was that was put that fi was. You've lied meet the rest put yeah. No no to your point that was all the set I mean to your point he humiliated him. He picked apart I. Don't think that cost the one a second of the of the fight it was just a one sided beating. masterclass was at he didn't just beat them as I just alluded to can he didn't just beat them physically some people say Ted, he did a pretty. Good job damaging the dude. Listen. He. The beating. The victory started. Before that. Started with the mental side it even started with the press corps with the final showdown at the way in. It. was. Shown that he wasn't going to be intimidated getting into his head, he got into his head. He made. He made. His opponent. Kosta. behaved. The way he wanted them to fight the way wanted to. An. Just almost a mindless reckless way where he can take advantage of that. He could take advantage of the bigger guy just being bigger. Just the big door that it was enough just to be bigger. uh-huh not like. Both. Kovic Kovic. He understood yet to be something else other than just bigeye. And the big guy here cost the. Thought that enough just to be strong and big intimidating. and. We used to have a say. Tomato that. When you when part of your package? Part of your plan in a fight is to intimidate the guy when it doesn't work. The intimidator becomes the intimidated. and. That was part of it. He couldn't intimidate this guy and this guy mentally. I design you. WanNa take. One respect all these guys say they made. No that's not my strong point. At assign you. Got Into his head and knew that he could kind of. Make them a puppet. puppeteer puppeteer where he can pull the strings on or he could get him to act the way he wants them to again reckless mindless. Maybe mad. You know. And then Just be. Deadman a dead man walking whether there's nothing as there's no confidence, there is no believed thinking this is just a vessel put. The vessel has no leadership. There's nobody steering the vessel it's just a ship at sea. That's a goal ship. He made them a golden. Have that he didn't have his. He didn't have his. Will left the will was gone. He took us well away. He took his he made the guy think that the guy no log Gaddis say in the fight that he couldn't control things. That at sign you in control made him. That's brand took away the rudder rant. I'd assign you special but that's why he's athletic. There's a lot of athletic guys out, but he's very athletic and very works out hard and everything else and very determined driven, but he's very smart. And he's kind of spirituality I. Don't people are GonNA say well. Let. Me Tell them with. No No, there's a lot more to it I. Hope you've starting to learn. that. And he does he he's He's got a belief that. There's an energy this of. Other folks out there that. If you're in control of it. It can be an ally to you. It's part of your strength. As part of what you bring. In that rain. Call it believe called Supreme Confidence. All those sports that make us feel more comfortable than spirituality or whatever but. It's A. Knowledge that he's in complete control of his environment of himself, he's responsible for himself. And that Another man don't control him. Knowing, how tough against it still your choice. How you going to deal with that tough spot. What you going to be like. And you have a supreme confidence that the knowledge of that knowing that you're in control of it. That that it that it is in your. WHEELHOUSE. To make those choices to know that you have it. It's kind of like a sprinter knowing that he's that he's got four three speed and forty. Oh, he knows that's there. Well, this guy knows that he's got disability you get me can He knows that he's got the ability to overcome. He knows that the when the cloud comes and it comes to all of us. Would not wave comes. That can consume US smother us. Choke us. He knows he can. Any comedies he he knows he has the ability. To put it on other guy, put any getting on him. Why 'cause you won't let it. Because he knows hostesses controllable as his legs as controllables fist. Now, we're getting beep I get it, but it's it's to me. It's. It's it's not deep. It's. It's. It's what the special ones all. Swell Muhammad Ali was about. People. Thought they were going to a funeral. We'd have they did they. Die. But. The straight, the valley was in his right, and even though you knocked out former with that, it was in A. The in a sanctuary of himself that that internal belief. This guy. lasagna he's got. He's got that He's got that. And he knows it's always your choice until. You make it the other guys choice he knows that. The. Pressure sometimes you just. Give it up. You'd think that He. He, took it from me. He just took it for me. There's no such thing as those for movies where they I please rob get this up for me. You know it's going to be graphic. No, he's GonNa get. It's going to be a little graphic, but you know. And you go right to the guy's chest and you take on. No that doesn't exist. It happens. Spiritually, it does. It happens. People do that they take it out but it can't happen if you don't let it happen. He and he just kind knows that. Allie knew that. I'll he alley retried into form his chest and right health here? He just didn't put it up there. You don't want to put it. That's what he did. He made foreign feel like. Form and had no say that night. That's how high. But the great ones know the difference between the troops in the Lai. And design you from I don't know what his background is but I know that it's something that has gotten them to this place. and has got nothing to do with the physical stuff and I told my son, my son S we're doing today You know I mean. Up My son in for testimony people want. My son brought up the way he's a good kid his it tells the truth. He He said, he was GONNA win. That's just the day the fight and you know he knew that I had sent a message to them and that he had you know we'd start with. That he had He had said something the social media. So so my son Teddy works for the raiders. That's why I'm out here, visiting him and his family with my family, and so my son says, you know everybody's liking this guy cost that I'm hearing more and more people worked at all you have see fans box fans or the football guys said, a lot of people You know the the picking cost Tanada nowadays Sadie. So big giant my guys probably on PD's. Right, there's You know the the Lego what do you think that? Exactly I said, I said I decided was going to destroy him. Even my son wayside. Listens to what I had destroy him. I said it's going to destroy him. He's Wide. Said because what's inside this guy? The what's inside this guy? He's he's going to destroy this guy's GonNa exposed this guy's GonNa take advantage how slow Voice from a technical standpoint, but he's also GonNa take advantage of that bully mentality. And when the bully you know like customers to say to me. Hey, Teddy. And I was in that situation so I ended. Say. Teddy. You ever see the bully you know he picked on and then that one day in the school yard somebody stands up to him and the next thing what's the bully doing? He's looking for the principal. Right. Know and that's and all the things I said which would just explained but This could special and again. He knew. That he knew it was almost an unfair advantage by being smaller because it made them cognitive everything you needed to be the other guy being bega and digging that was an advantage didn't make him cognizant didn't make him aware of what other things he needed to grab from. Maybe they didn't have those things developed, but there are the things grab from. He didn't think he needed those things to grab from he just told what he had was. So now being stronger viewer, but that doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't get in position to use that to that way. You're not picking them up and doing. A military prices with them right now go. So it doesn't matter and this kid outta design you understood and he was it was almost on fair. We'll turn out to be unfair but it was almost really unfair that does pull big guy digs. That's enough is in there with another guy who's using everything and I'm gonNA use a word that's GonNa trip people he's even using his fear. Yeah, he's using his via. Because he's on age, he knows he has to be he has represented control fear. He's got to work inform. He's got to work for him. He's got everything. Assumes a a charging hit no. The Pistons to charge pop pop pop pop pop pop everything's there. So is it was unfair he's got everything he's he's a word guy coming here. I got. I gotta be alert this you know I can't be and the other guy was trying to play the game of casual like he you know. Like this is not that I'm just GONNA walk in I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA wring. Your neck. But. No, no. No, and then he started realizing that and then then it started going, it started south fast and You. Know in the Game Plan I. Mean if you WanNa get down to the simple stuff. I. said the most important part of this already but the simple stuff. Yeah he's your big I won't box and the way we deal with annoy idea with as I keep A. Guy Tangles would he did it some of it I I decided but some of the bigger guy can't be the big I can't be said to punch to deliver the bowel. But in his business at a science said, no, I'll take his legs away. So there's no legs. So for the bigger body to to deliver punch if there's no doubt says, there's no foundation there's no house. There's no building. So I'm GONNA crumpled this frigging Belgium. So he did, he crumbly took he took those cinder blocks away from the foundation from the basement. So so that was his status she kept them more but begum and to stand with a little bit and that that that was part of it. Like you a bully me you're really not the big a guy in the areas to count. Yeah. I'm right here smarter. But still right here is not like it was you know it's not like it was running over a track meet you know what I mean I don't know he was on all so and then he's like I said he's he's banging these taking a big Ammann's man's legs away. So he can't be the big so we can't deliver the package. Yeah, you know and. Then his quickness enhance. But but he got the Guy Ready like sugar ray Robinson said I gotta get him dressed up for play come out and he got to stop he talks Onnell. You could feel that right when the momentum's right before into the fight you could feel the momentum I sent Robert Texas said it feels like a snowball rolling downhill. Gaining momentum now Israel's like really pulling away now right before he just turned it up and just destroyed him and not just slowly building. Crescendo when he finally finished in credit to Israel and his team and I know he's really close with this team I. Think he lived in the gym in new. Zealand. Due to the covid with his whole team for a period of several weeks if not months and. Credits who is striking coaches and is. bj coaches and the whole team they really did an awesome job. Tremendous. Like I said, if we'd love to talk to all of them anytime there in the US, we'd love to have him on and chat with their strategy was perfect. Yeah. I. Mean. The only thing? Yeah. It's not much to that I mean. He. I explained part of the why. Because, Kostas. was at a disadvantage that he didn't know. He was because he wasn't aware that he had to have everything. He was he just talk going in. You know okay. You Destroy Guy. We are you gonNA chance on this guy? Yeah. He was just going to going to bully him over and and so he. Just he was like a poor. You have to feel sorry for more. He wasn't aware of what he needed to be aware of almost reminded me of a bullfight bullet comes charging in I'm GonNa get you in the next thing. You know he's got like a hundred swords in his back a kicks in his legs. Yeah. was once in a while, it could be just owners root for the ball. I mean I I'd like to. A few people I'd like to. Suggest they'd be combated. You know in. Some of the places that are less super. For that stuff you know I it just. But Anyway you know. The one thing concert again, it's almost a moot point but. Just, from his people, he could have been helped with one thing people because I'm sure people probably say teddy what's the one thing he could have been? You know except besides what you went over the landscape of the mind and? All. That territory where is really weird comes down to but. He could use his jab simple things like that but he's bigger this. But that's not one that's you should be thinking of the guy like his it should have been this where you could have stabilized. I'm a little bit hit him in the chest. Just, hit him in the chest just to stabilize them. And to mentally keep yourself in a game where you touch them where you have hope. Because we lost hope and then you're debt. But we your way you mentally tell the guy who maybe a little more than you thought it was going to be. And you send a message message is being sent can and so that jet that's what I would have coming with the Jeff forget about all this other stuff just just to. Be in the game neutralize neutralize the guy a little bit and but I tell you what I was decisive. It was I couldn't help it put. I told David and Goliath. I said well, others David and Goliath and last I checked. David One. And he's still winning. He was a little fellow. Yeah and he won and why you went I know it had something to do that pebble. But it was this. Was this. That he was smart enough. To to know what he had to do and the advantages he had with try interested in front of them and they got a big statue like a big old mountain and you know that's what he did. Instead of the pebble uses legs and his quick hands and again. There's this I like the guy I like him I I like his Like that's part of him, but it's not. It's not. I wanted to make a point of this. Because I know sometimes we get into these things and sometimes people can. They. Can, be a proof it can be dislike. The can be a disliking to the attitude legs too much is arrogance. It's like dot respectful. You know sometimes it's I like this kid I even when he talks with his confidence I see for that I don't see it for where it can go the other way to do you explain exactly. I don't see it for being you know the sometimes disrespectful or just to completely self consumed the point like I listen to this stuff you know I appreciate his but no, this gets different. Kids. Different He he's got. He's got that Conroy he's got. He's earned it. He puts real. Yeah. It's real and is A. When he talks this a certain. realness Jeff to appreciate with it. No matter how strong it is. Yeah. Because of validity to it. Does a realist it and I like that he gave credit to his sous team. A lot of you know you see the selfishness I put here put across that certain thing to sell because everyone's trying to sell. Yeah but. With him this something else to that. I can appreciate. That that's A. Legitimate. Fantastic. Anyway, I like the Guy I like him a lot You Know I. I hope that he gets all the big fights that he deserves because. He goes in he goes in that case with the lion faces that line. and. He's put himself right there with his confidence in his skills. Yep. All right guys before we wrap it up again, I wanNA give a quick shout out to our newest sponsor power dot. CHECK HIM OUT OF POWER DOT COM use the Promo Code Atlas for twenty percent off. Again, this products used by all top athletes in the NFL. MLB NBA. I've personally given it to a handful of fighters and they love it. 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Check out athletic Greens awesome night of fights Ted here with your family and I appreciate you doing this today. Hope to fans enjoyed this one before we sign offs or anything else you wanted to had. Wanted to add that. I didn't think I was GONNA add this but. First of all that I hope we once okay out there everyone say out there. taking care of themselves, taking care of their families. joined. Families. And because that's why I'm here to enjoy my family and my. Sometimes sometimes you. Get reminded of how important? It is to. Just to let your family, know how much you love them. You know just to. Your way along I'm all the way in New York. Over. Here in in in just you get a remind of how lucky. To have friends to have family that you know You can drive down the street and you concede some homeless person be reminded real quick, and I'll I'll go down through the series of but real quick that I. It's not something that's guaranteed to you. So you should really work at it and we should all work at being. More appreciative for just have a life and maybe trying to care for each other a little bit more. You know that's all but and part of what made me think about this? Going in that direction is that after we leave here, now we're going to go meet a guy that is I'm happy to be meeting with him because he's a not just because he's a you have see. Fighter and a guy that I think is going to be the UFC heavyweight champ and more important than me. People think that and and a guy that a lot of people who you know think that is the hardest punch on the planet. I remember we we did an interview with him and somebody said to me. You see fan of course said. He's the hardest puncher on the planet and said Okay and But, it's not for those reasons. is because the kind of reflected on here? He's a good human being and it's just like maybe it's because I'm getting older but I feel privileged. Feel fortunate anytime I can meet somebody again now that he's a giant that nowadays the hardest puncher and now he's going to be the future you have see me champ that I can meet a good human being. I just feel I don't know I just feel more fortunate I feel like I've. I feel like I've gained something. Yeah. Like like I just feel like a gain some like like. Like I. had a good day outside where you have a good day and you get some Sun and year round your family. Feel good. I feel that any time you can be around a person that cares about other people and adds to the world and he does, and of course, I'm talking about Francis and gone you and I mean he he does this charity work. Cameron. he's he's building gyms, places of for kids to have hope because sometimes again, it's just a reminder of maybe we all need sometimes and I'm I'm no preacher and please forgive me but it's just a reminder of we got some was sometimes we forget and then you've got guys like and gone new that comes from a place where there's so much poverty in in place like Cameroon with it, there's not the opportunities you have here. It's just not there. I mean you can have all the. But it's not there. And you know and when you around that you lose hope. In A. In a pretty good place. You lose hope because it's it's what you make. It's what you think is it's your own. Private Sanctuary of your where you go in your mind that if you happy not, yeah. Somebody's always should be but they don't understand that inside. There's things going on that you're not happy for. Got Nothing to do with the opulence that might be round chits and it's got to do with the emptiness. Inside your father is yeah. But When you're. In, a place like Cameron where they can be so much poverty. It's, easier, to lose hope. And then you got a guy like this that takes us success. and. He's using it to give hope to other people. Again. The Guy who told me was the hottest punch on the planet I would I would say. Yeah but it's more than his physical punch It's just punch that can. Affect other people. Without ever put them in a ring with him. It's punch that can change people's life. His power that can. Just. What is that? And I guess that's the final thing. I'll say what is that? It's a four letter word. What is it? It's not outside to stretch of any of us. No. Matter where we come from no matter how much money we make don't make whatever. It's one word and more capable of using it care. That's it care. And I'm going to, we're going to go beat them when a little while we're GONNA lose. Jim. I might even shown the Tyson uppercut. which he throws but I'm I might tighten it up a little bit. Tighten up little bit in all my God. People out there. Teddy you're. GonNa get arrested. For doing stop this guy already is you know like aglietta massage. Alley would make up the poems. Alley resulting. Make up the police who you when I fight Sonny Liston who who would adored that on that night. To see the launch over black satellite. Yes. So You're going to be making this guy launched people like A. That's not giving them. Hope that that that's that's not caring about them but but outside of that Rome of in the ring the guy does care. The guy does Put himself out there in that special place and I don't know I didn't know I was going to talk about like this Obvious. All mind but I'm again I'm happy with my family. I'm happy I'm going to go see my family but I'm also happy that I'm going to see Francis because any time you can see somebody shake somebody's hand and maybe even give them a hug. You know about more than just themselves yeah. It it gives you hope. It gives you because when you have grandchildren like I, do you start thinking I hope the world can get better and sometimes you just need that little bit of a reminded that there are people who still out there that can make the world better and he's one of them. Cool, well with data, thanks for being with US appreciate all the support guys will be back.

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The MMA Beat: Episode 228 (Conor McGregor Speaks Out, Lobov-Malignaggi Trash Talk, UFC Rochester Recap)

The MMA Beat

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The MMA Beat: Episode 228 (Conor McGregor Speaks Out, Lobov-Malignaggi Trash Talk, UFC Rochester Recap)

"You're listening to the media podcast network. It is Thursday may twenty third two thousand nineteen and this is the beat. Welcome everyone by name is Luke Thomas on the host of this program. You know, from Sirius XM as well as MMA fighting and today, ladies and gentlemen, we have a very special panel. You know, I've been doing this show. It's gone through many different interruptions, different studios, different hosts, different. Panelists I've done more than any other person on the shows on 'em may be episode. One here we are episode seventy eight billion we've had a Mike Jackson on the show before, who was a fighter in the UFC. But he was also kind of media before that we have never to this day had a UFC fighter straight up a UFC fighter as a panelist on the show because we weren't sure if it was going to be a good idea. Well, we're about to test that little theory arly to my left is Denny's. Past that is you see bantamweights boom is here. Ryan keller. How are you, sir? Good. Thank you have at the at the very end, you know, heavy is the iceman from fighting as well as the ring Chuck men, and all the men in the hat, man of many names. Yes. All right. Boom, we're going to see how this go just talk for an hour. Trouble in this could be a huge success everything. I was gonna say probably never been in a pressure situation like. Woke up sweating this morning. Welcome to the Tara dome. All right. Let's get this going. We'll start with you is because let's start with KFC was that. Did you know you're with doing the show with you? I'm sure you saw what happened on my day perfect of that was at a Dave and Buster's and Times Square. I can think of everything else to do with spit on one another, and so she got a venue. So here's the issue with this him. Yeah. Pull him going out there on the heels of Dante wilder, by the way, telling Dominique Brazil, Brazil. He wanted to kill him in the ring. You have you have paulie kind of thing similar things, at least to put some low ball in a coma, bidding on him threatening to essentially commit a war crime by doing bad things to his corpse. It's like it's gotten to the point now where everyone's kind of laughing because it's a bit of a sideshow, but you have to see, and it's also going to be in Florida to Florida but yeah, so you kind of have to just sort of wonder if this is all be joke on the other hand man, it is so ugly. Now, I'm wondering if the people promoting because I've seen how paulie promotes in boxing, didn't look like this evening against Adrian Brodie and that was ugly. What is happening here? Is it going too far? How do you feel about this or the big circus? We should just laugh at it. Well, I think you do have to think seriously in the sense of, like, you know, having security, there to make sure nobody gets hurt and, and take it seriously in that manner. But as far as like the promotion itself, I don't think it's gone too far. I mean, just a few months ago, you know, we're talking about Conor McGregor and Habib. That's too far. I think this is right on the border line. I think it's it's always ugly. It isn't pretty but it is the fight game. This is the hurt business. These guys are going to fight at the end of the day. So, you know, I, I don't think it's gone too far, you know, they're attacking the character of the person, which I'm, I'm usually fine with that. There's been some things said that, you know, a little bit off. You know, probably saying he's going to pee on an arts and whatnot. But there's. They're talking about religion races. You know. You know. Not yet, but I don't think that's the direction they're going to. Because if you look at their trash talk is really based about just each other like I have a problem with you, and you have a problem with me. Whereas the Habib and McGregor situation, it's spread out in, and then it was it was more culturally, rather than just attacking the individual. So Kennedy turn of their shirt, but at least at this point, I think it's, it's fine. But we've yeah, no. I think the question is what is too far? You know, I think if you're spitting on somebody that's, that's a little too far to me. I mean, if you spit on me where sensually fighting. So, you know, police doing things like that kind of crossing the line, but words are words and fight promotion is five promotion. I think all his fair, whatever you wanna say you're going to say you know, in all honesty. They're going to get into a ring and scrap and do a bare knuckle in harm each other. So it's you know what you say can't be too much when, you know, at the end that's what's going to have. What about the we've gotten a little comfortable everyone? Frank Kemira said he wanted to Brock lizard, we the first death in the Arctic. You've lost his job at WC. Commentary for that. That was ten years ago. It was a different time. Everyone was looking for to get accepted into the mainstream. So I get the difference. I'm just wondering in your a competitor. Someone wishing death on you do what if what if something bad happens someone's going to trace that back and go. We did not take this seriously, right? Oh, yeah. I mean that's another thing that, you know, this is escalating further and further as time goes on. It's like people are setting the bar higher and higher. Like you said, what Connor and could be it got so out of hand with racial comments and religion and stuff like that. I feel like now that sets the buffer other people to think, okay. Like we can go this fall with it. It's funny because it's almost like he paulie feels like he's in a sideshow like you mentioned. I feel he believes he's in a strange cameo in the gutter he's going to some other place to kind of carry boxing integrity. And he's going to show all these fans are gonna show this guy, this guy from them may world kind of what's up, you know, and it's just it's bizarre level because like you said, this isn't the poli- we've seen in the past. So I feel like he's carrying a little bit more. Your baggage into this, which is a tell obviously, like it's, it's obviously psychologically involved more than maybe he normally would be. And he's got something to prove I guess, so it's, it's all playing out in that in that sense. But man, I don't know that he doubled down, you know, about the coma and all that other kind of, you know, I don't wanna wish harm on anybody. But, you know, if it happens at least show, you guys, you know what this, dude? This is real presenting it like it was a useful. Teaching right. That's what I'm saying. It's, it's I guess we've kind of with the with the backboard between him and McGregor. And then, you know that you have that whole sideline going in. It doesn't feel over the top, it feels like it, maybe where you insipid it might be just given that kind of bad blood between the camps and everything. But I feel like it's only gonna get crazy from here on out man as we get closer to this thing. What's the worst anyone's ever tried to like get promoted fight with you, like whoa? How far is somebody gone? I haven't had much happen to me to be honest. I've gotten people's faces before back and forth, but no. Onset anything like really militias to me or I'm not like the type to talk trash. So I don't think I set it up where it's like it's gonna come back at me like that. But yeah, nothing really crazy with me. No one touched me. No one really said anything about my family or any kind of religious things. So I haven't had struggles with that. But I think that with the poli- thing, it's, it's like he's so fired up, and it's interesting because he doesn't have a direct beef with Artem himself. It all came from that sparring session with Connor. It's like he's still holding onto that bitterness of that video, and he was talking about that. Yeah. He's so heated up to like get back at that, that I think this fight is like all about that moment. This is really I think that's exactly this fight is like, we don't really know what happened in the sparring meal. We saw that little tiny thing. Was it a knockdown wasn't a down? He says, at least the whole thing. Yeah, yeah. I don't think I don't think it's fair to call a front runner. But I don't think he's much tougher in the early parts of the later parts, this, paulie, trying to drown that memory in the bathtub and set a new one. Not just gonna fight with Connor, but I want to show you I was right about, and I run as your show live, essentially he was set up because if you look at all the interviews and all the media, he did. He went in there going on here to help McGregor immune McGregor. I remember like he was talking about McGregor like they were partners. But McGregor was not in that partner business. He wouldn't he brought him in. He flew him into beat them up. Take pictures of and then ruined his reputation by putting all this footage out there. And we know the maitre was how, you know insane. They are they just came after paulie. And I think that's something he wasn't expecting. I mean if you just look at all the media he did post that. I mean, it's just hours of him just going at it and ranting about this. So this is in a way like a little outlet like a way to vent. In a way to, you know, I guess released some of that anger that he has been kind of get back. Yeah. Very sweet wheelhouse for local organization to find because basically taking been data. That's very alive in a white community in Saint Louis, we're going to find some resolution by bringing these two guys to go, what better way to do this, they have way more attention on this fight than they could've possibly had, if they'd had fifty of the way they were going, you know, the, the fight cards that they're putting together with some names on them. But, you know, there's no real be this is the kind of thing they need to find like Mendez a complaint almost on a sideline. You know what I mean? And this is tailor made for bear. No cliff, see because say, like bare knuckle FC wouldn't exist. Bare knuckle boxing, thinks, says UFC in boxing, you know, if you put Paula long, gene, and arts and blue while in a boxing match, you probably know who's gonna win you know if you put them in the UFC in a in a fight that wouldn't be that intrigue because, you know it was going to win as well. But this is a right in the middle. There's clinching. There's forget about the storyline in the beef just the fight itself. It's actually intriguing. It's actually you got an active fighter. But you know that's not really a boxer. And then you've got you know the clinch aspect of it. So just from the. Perspective is actually a really intriguing about this tailor made for that or. The mot- the highest selling pay per view history. Had the promotion that all of us were like that got a little far rights. Versus McGregor two and a half million pay per view buys this fight. I think I don't know what it's going to do because it's. I don't know. I don't know. So that's a good price. What's it gonna be Florida's making them wear gloves that have no knuckles, but they have to have gloves, which is like the most Florida dumb ass thing I've ever heard. There's that, that I was just thinking about this. I remember some bare knuckle. Yeah. Yeah. I was I was thinking about ten years ago with the US he was promoting itself and promoted against fighters were like these guys have accounting degrees in their college graduates, and that was fine for like a respective -bility notion, but to promote a fight. This is the best of became sees probably ever going to do. And the best the UFC ever did was super ugly. I'm not saying this historically crazy. I think everything goes in cycles, but it is kind of alarming Brian right? The like we knew ugliness sold. But I don't know that there's a breaking point like oh, you think ugliness cells up to a point. I'm not sure about that. A little seems to sell as long as you keep up the ugliness. No. It's true. It seems like in this this business. There's like no laws. You know what he'd like do whatever you gotta do to make this cell, and I it's interesting that it's like that, but, like, why don't you engage in more that kind of stuff if you know, the work, I think it has to be somewhat in you, you know, I it's kind of, in your personality to let loose and say crazy things. And when you do stuff like that, you have to back it up. You know, I always admire somewhat who goes so far to say a lot of cocky things, and, and preach things that, you know, you gotta go in there. And now back that up, and that's on your shoulders, you know, and I think for someone like me. I don't really want that on my shoulders that extra pressure. I don't want to put that out there and then be thinking what if now what if I don't do that? What if this doesn't happen, it looks worse on you? You know in the end. So I just try to stay out of that kind of thing. But it's crazy. How things are going. You're spitting on people hit him on the head with microphones. I mean it's funny it makes us want to watch it, but, you know, you guys are mentioned in the Mayweather McGregor and six for four days where he is showing. Up like a pimp and doing stuff and making racist jokes. The tour. Dates where I mean, like I thought that that went too four at the time I was like this is a this is like gratuitous like this is just keeps going on and on. But some people loved it, man. Look at the sales and sales figures for that one is the most uncomfortable reality that kind of thing works as those, it does. And then obviously the common theme in every every scenario it's almost kinda McGregor, right? Because his his specter will play over this as well. And I think that, that's it tells you what kind of business guys running. You know what I mean? Like when he can basically just be a figure that's out there in, in that realm. And it still matters went back to you because Paul he said something that I thought actually with. Right. He said, a lot of things that I didn't think made sense. So not everything. There was one argument. He made that he goes, the these fighters and all the fighters necessarily, but Artem in that community generally, they're like, oh, well boxers, you know, they fight with big pads and limited things you can do at his point is like yes, is multi variable as a may. It's just punching above the waist, but look at the trail of bodies. Look at the trail of damage, it's much worse in inside boxing them, as Emma may, and he sort of tack the community for it. I got to be I don't I don't think he's wrong. I've heard this for years from people that like, well, I'm not saying I made. I don't know which ones harder, right? But I know that the, there's a bit of an attitude inside anime towards boxing. I think people think is a sneaky suspicion. It's a little bit easier and a little bit less dangerous the facts bear, that out, Paul. He's kind of right? Yeah. Agreed with him to some extent. I think you know. And that may fighters think that the game of the harder because of the different aspects that we have the train. In an and using the fight. But with boxing, you're taking a lot more shots to the head because you can't clinched up necessarily and you can't take a guy down in holding down or whatever. So I think with that said, yeah, we just don't know what CTE the research, though. You know, like we haven't seen what it's done to animate fighters that hasn't really been shown. So, you know with boxing. It's definitely dangerous to take a lot of head shots like that, and not have any other option. But, you know, the gloves are gloves. I think you know, I don't really even think poli has something against them. I think this is just him trying to speak on behalf of the fact that he's fighting an enemy fighter. You know, Bill woods. Kidded question, are you worried about C T? Oh, yeah. Hundred percent. I mean, I take by CBT oil every day us that it works. I don't know. I know a lot of people, you know, talk good things about it. But you just never know you know, there's not enough research on CBD, either, like is their side effects later down the road, you find from taking that every day. That's negative. I don't know. But I am worried about it. You know, I've, I've been knocked out once in my career haven't taken much damage, you know, other than that fight, but after that, you start to rethink things, and it's hard to tune that out. Once you deal with that point he does in. I also think that the cultures are different because in enemy you sort of feel like an may make fighters and just EMMY fans have a perspective that boxers or pampered that, boxers, you know, in a way, the culture is, is a little bit different in that, since, like, for example, I've as media, I've covered, you know, open workouts for boxers. And you know it's not a bunch of dudes in amount, grappling, or, and he's usually just one guy and that. Has like twenty dudes around him drying the sweat off. One guy for the water, you know what I'm saying? Just really taking care of them. They almost feel like you know in I mean this with one hundred percent respect like race horses, you know, like Notre. Notre completely treated like you know, like this is the guy wears them may everybody's in there. You're in there working hard. You're in there grinding, you know what I'm saying? So there is that sort of misconception that gets lost old. So this guy must not be tough. This guy has a somebody drying his sweat without, you know what I'm saying? But at the end of the boxers put in the work man, they, they have to be tough to, to, to get their also like just look at record, you know, we tease around about him being the goat and, you know, being a fifty fifty fighter whereas boxers, you know throughout their career until the very end. They get usually set up with, with good ups, right? So I think there's cultural differences in that, but I don't think it speaks to, you know, boxers being less tough than than that feeling as well. How pervasive it is. It's not a scientific, then but I've heard for years. Oh, well bog boxing's a little bit that polish move back against that. Yeah. I mean in a standing eight count. Right. Like that's I always think about that. When a guy like there's no time to recover. The fight is over in, I want a guy is basically knocked down in his is rendered defense. At that point, the fight is usually over. We see cases where they let it go onto long. But that's usually the case in boxing. You could get, you know, just completely clobbered in your your senseless for a few seconds. But then you wake up and you can stand up and actually continue the bite. That's a me is always the biggest divide. Yeah. On his that's when you because you see. Including like melanoma with a broken jaw before. Yeah. And he wanted to quit. He just didn't because he didn't want the scarlet letter on him. Whereas an MA like if somebody you'd be like smart call was the right client. That's true. That's true. And that's that's what he was saying about, like tapping out, you know, he keeps tapping and showing like in may at any point, you can just laid out and tap. If things aren't going your way. It's kind of true. I mean, if you're type strikes against Mets, zero whatever, yeah. If you if you're not in it, and you're having a tough time and you start thinking negative in there. And you know, you're on the ground in a bad position. Like you do have the ability to make it look like you know, put your hover around my neck. And I'm outta here. You know, and, and in boxing, that has is something that really is like frowned upon, you know, to quit like you said, if you stay on your stool, and you don't come up to try to fight and keep going. So, yeah, that's a point too. Com. Hurt. I'm out. Yeah. There's definitely it's easier to, to find a way to, to quit than it is in boxing. That's. Very quickly. I think that's a good thing about like the boxing's lack of humanity is a positive. I mean that's where people get hurt. You know, went when you know you know you one out, but heck I don't wanna look like an idiot, so I'm going to stay in there, you know, extra minute and get, you know, the extra damage and to your point, you know when you get rocked in may get hit. Sometimes we see fight stopped prematurely in right? We talk about it in fence complain about it. But in boxing, like, you know, if if you if you go down, you have the ability to go back up and the will that you have to some into go back in there and get back in the fight. It's it's ridiculous. So I think both both fighters are tough is just different cultures. It's so think about last night. His most ridiculous. It's completely out. See that stuff in boxing? But that fight is over an Emma, may, you know what I mean. 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From the vox media podcast network. N vox dot com. Listen and subscribe, wherever you get your podcasts. All right. More to the other part of the story, which is not connected to the PK of c part. But as you alluded to Conor McGregor going on Robbins, his podcast. Funny, then newsbreaks yesterday that multiple women have accused Tony Robbins misconduct. Good time. Timing was like perfect at any event. Forget that part. Here's the thing, I was thinking about listening to what he, he had said a lot of different things. I'm not really asking any of you to weigh in on the truth value of it, but I found it to be an incredibly deft move by Conor McGregor which they often are number one, he acknowledges sort of, like other sports luminaries, like LeBron. And how they've changed his perspective on taking care of himself. Number one, second of all going on. Tony Robbins, his podcast. We're twenty Robbins was just fan. Boy, ended up it ain't going to sports podcast. And he wanted like a self help guru, where you can just sort of tell your side of the story very Oprah ish in that regard. So that was interesting. And then he to me, like, is this the first time he's talked about the brawl at length. I think so and he talked about it with. Levity and how he was he one in hand. But the thing that was really thinking about was the key insight for me. Chuck, I want to go to you, first on this one. What I took away from. It was he realized that Habib's next fight can't be him. He's got to do something else, but Conner's next fight, if he plays his Korge, right? Might actually just be. Yes. To sit out a rotation. But if he can start to bring levity to an the situation and tell his side of the story and say these guys are running, and God only knows is going to have with Tony Ferguson cowboy right there is a way to weasel his abuse the word. But, you know find a way back in the queue. How effective do you think this is the beginning of seems to me how effective do you think this push can be I think, highly affect, well, I'm glad to hear you say that because I honestly thought that same thing. I was like I wasn't sure what he thought of this brawl. You know, the whole thing, I it seemed like he handled at the time kinda, like counter-intuitively to what some people might have. They might have made a big stink about it and tried to milk, the situation for all its worth, he seemed immediately even that night to just be like, no big deal. No big deal. And so we finally hear him. And he does use levity. And he does mention all that stuff, you kind of starts planting seeds, which you always, you know, he's a very good at doing. I thought it was I thought it was very Conor McGregor. Let's put it that way to come to come in and play it that way. And I agree with you hundred percent. We've talked about it before it's like does anybody really in within the fight bubble wants to see that flight and why we've talked about Gooding so dark that it's one of those things like I don't even sure I want to see that kind of energy collide again. But at the same time, what is he doing then he's going back, and he's reworking, the this is the, you know, the wires behind it and saying like. Well, you know, it was all good fun type thing you know what I'm saying? And I think that he's that's the right approach. I think you've gotta get you have to somehow make it. So it doesn't seem like it's a like a war like you're going back into some dark place where everybody's going to be kind of like the mood of this one is very dark. It get past that, that would be the first part and then start working on the competitive side of it, because he was already planting those seeds as well as saying, like, you know, it was my training. We were we're doing to visit. I'm an attacker. Let me try it my way that sort of thing. He's planning all the right seeds. That's what that's the way I thought, yeah. It was interesting to like one thing, I took away from that was, he mentioned, his foot was hurting, Trine. He can't put a lot of different excuses. You know, from from chaining the way cut and stuff. And I think it's funny because RDA hurt his foot had to pull out of their fight, but then he hurt his foot, and he's mentioning it after taking a loss. You know, it's kind of, like one of those things you don't do you make fun of one guy for pulling out for an injury. But then you say I lost and this is why I had the same injury. But yeah, I. He's Connors really smart. He's playing his cards. Right. Each. He's throwing jabs out back at could be even an Ali, he knows he's going to hear this. And that's you know, Ali has a lot of power and he's, he's going to be stubborn. He doesn't want to give Connor rematch. She wants to let him sit out and you know, try to work his way back back up the top and you know, this is what Connor has to say that trying to find his way back in there somehow. But hey, if poor beats could be that kind of sets Connor up to, you know, another rematch fight. So he he's gonna find his way in there somehow dangerous and we'll quickly going back to you on this one a lot of times. Really? Oh, you know, my hand was Mr. whatever and ninety percent of the time people like ooh. And you still a little bit of that here. But if he can turn that into. But okay. Here's the way to think differently about it next time not like his when you to dwell on the loss, he wants you to reimagined the future in which a lot of fighters. Don't do they don't have it as a way to get it back, then it might work. It might work, right? Yeah. Could for sure. I mean he's saying all the right things you know with injuries. Like some with Conor McGregor like he's going to go in there and make a crazy amount of money to fight some guys are making the base pay and they're fighting for their life, essentially. So if you're not one hundred percent and you gotta go in there and fight for that base pay or let's say it's your last fight on your deal. It's not the same situation as a guy like Connor or someone fighting for, you know, a championship where they're going to go in there with some injuries and make that big payday. I think this was effective, what he's doing oh, one hundred percent and I think this is also not very telling about him. But also the audience like the big fights happen, Casuals, make the big fights happen Conor McGregor versus flew me with it happened because the, the mainstream media, hopped on that, and the cash was were like, what we wanna watch this, you know. But if you talk if you spoke to the hardcore is the hardcore boxers into hardcore and may fans people people weren't they weren't about that fight. So same goes with this one, though, the feeling leaving be McGregor was one. This is Oakley to kinda McGregor. Got washed. And now you see you. Conor McGregor spinning and embellishing, the story line, which he's a master at doing so one stating out there. And this is all targeted towards the Casuals were. That's why he's on Tony Robbins, not, not hardcore fence by painting to the Casuals that look Habib was wrestling me. I was in the attack mode of the whole time. He's the one that looking to fight me. He was looking hug, my leg. He was injured. Exactly. I'm always injured. And then a casual goes. Yeah. Why don't they stand and strike? What I'm they actually fight ways could be, you know, hugging his leg. And then, you know, he's embellishing everything in saying, how the last laugh, you know, by punching his Habib's brother and whatnot. And yeah, I it's just very interesting. And it's also very telling about the casualties because if you listened to that podcast, I think it was. There was an audience there because you clapping we talk. We came up here after that. And we're, we're we're you know talking bad about this. How ugly this, this is a black guy for the sport. And then you got McGregor saying, you know, his cousin try to soak punch me in the punch, and I saw them. Hello. Top of the cage and Stoker punch, the other guy. And everybody's like. Robbins is cracking. I feel like people are so detached from that because we actually get, you know, the nitty gritty like the tweets and we see like every single detail the Casuals are not really paying attention to that. So for them, this is just a circus, when people use exact like I broke my foot, you know, they don't know that we've heard that in the bubble a million times, though, that while they broken Flint. On the back. So I think he's pulling off a steep. It card in the sense that he knows. He can wait it out. He knows if he gets the casualties onboard this up. He's a master of like going like way, too far, like making fun of Habib's wife. And then. Short time later. He's out there with the boys and girls of America painting fences. He's just he's got this ability. It's like a balance, you know, like he knows how to, like, I could do to bad things at one good thing, and even to measure, white how many of the bad things equal the one good thing versa like he's got a real sharp knack for that. So I think it's still too early to tell what's going to happen. But him plans in the seeds and the way that he is getting again, he's not going to get hubby mixed, but he might be after that. I don't know for sure though, we also. Yes. Right. Like what's going on? I mean they right here in this very studio. And he said, nothing was signed nothing signed, but they, although he also said that it'd be was like, I'm not fighting. Yeah. Finding connor's. Right. But how much is that, like, you know, negotiation leverage to, you know, I was curious to what are you guys think about it? Because with Nate Diaz coming back to fight Pettus. Do you think that that's somewhat of a lower for Connor like to kinda get him attracted like oh, Nate Nate's plan bowl? He's coming back, like maybe I should. You know what I mean? Like just in general, I wonder if that's part, I don't know. But I know from Nate side of things we're talking to people around him like his expectation is that he's gonna win obviously, and then bro, it's either going to be Connor title-fights and the west y'all can take a high. These at least putting himself in the Connor sweepstakes is Connor doing the same thing. It's a big question. It's, it's hard to say. All right. Well that other way let me go back to you. Bryan on this because I found this story super interesting sage north cut makes his debut in one we had your eye on the show on Monday. He was saying sage never fought in a ring, man, going back, and I'm like, there's no transparency in. Wayne one's way, cutting program, which I've been saying for six months, the first time I said it, I put it on one of my personal YouTube videos. They got super down voted. I was right then. And I'm right now, there could be a good program just nobody knows which is the exact point that I made. So you had Cosmo all the shandra looking pretty big also multiple time world champion entire boxing. Sage, it'd never fought in the ring, he'd been all for quite some time, he goes in there and gets bulldozed them thirty seconds. Now you're a professional fighter when you looked at that. What lesson did you draw from it? I mean, it's, it's multiple lessons. I, I know you're I favor was saying that he was advice. Is maybe not to go in there and fight that fight. Who knows what happened in training camp and stuff like that. Also on one f seaside matchmaking looking at a young guy like sage and seeing his potential for growth, and then matching him against a guy like that who's got a lot of kickboxing fights and, and, you know, dangerous fighter that's going to be a better striker than him. You know the fight didn't get to play out. Maybe they thought sage could do some, you know, take him down, and get something off on the ground. But a yeah, just think matchmaking wise that wasn't the right decision. You got a lot of potential for siege, and who knows how much money he's making them one FC. He's probably just ready to go. You know it's not on him. He's a fighter fighters fight. And that's just how it is. He's not looking like, oh, this guy was a kickboxer. I don't know. Yeah. It's up to the management, as your major ever been like for you. Honestly. No, it's never happened. I I it's been like here's the option. And it's yes, you know you ready to go. It's yes. So otherwise, you know the UFC's not happy with someone just turning down a fight, because we're we don't like that matchup. We're afraid to fight. This style, because that's not what a fighter is fighters should be ready to fight any style and anybody at any time. So you can't really blame sage himself, but the people around him, he's had a tough time, man. I feel bad for him. And a lot of ways because he's he came in our surgery one hundred percent. And you came under a kind of ridiculous, microscope. Right. I think people were kind of us God before really ever seen him him work. He ends up in situations where he's fighting you know, guys on short notice and things like that was at the Mickey goal and a guys like Reno. Right. That one that's one I was thinking of, but he ends up in these situations. They're just not at advantageous for him. But he keeps he keeps his appointment he goes in there. And then he loses these fights. I really thought going over to the to till one championship the basically they would try to put him with a couple of guys he could beat and get him rolling really surprised that they put him, you know, I, I wasn't sure about like this, this potential matchup, I wasn't sure I was like, but it seemed always to me, I was like that's a pretty dangerous matchup for I. Fight. And then you watch the results of that, and you see him get clobbered like that new. I it just it just strikes you, as like man. This guy keeps finding himself in the weirdest situations that a lot of fighters just wouldn't have to do under unfair kind of maybe us putting too much pressure on her too much too many is on him originally. And so he becomes that appeal like, even what was it deadspin TMZ in those types of? Yeah. They still are covering him. And it's just it's a weird thing man. He's his his star is well past where he is, is a fighter and for some reason, we keep you, we keep getting reminded of that, that, that kinda sucks for him to take away from that thought. I mean I thought the the matchmaking was very suspect. If you look at, you know, the fight itself, yes, you know, sages and everything fighter. But historically, if you just look at his fights, he doesn't really go for take downs doesn't really use his wrestling. I mean he did against in his debut. I think it was on, but, but historically, he's known for his karate style. Right. That's why Tyron Willie brought him in to help them against the, you know, Steven wonderboy Tom century, etc. So, you know, when you pretty putting against someone who's has so much experience in the stand up department, man. That, that's you know, that's that's interesting. That's like when he talked back. He's such a young guy. What twenty-five? No. So much star power. But like you said his fighting career is not playing up to that. And why would you wanna take it like he's a model? I was going to get roles in movies. And then what would you want to take back on a damage here? If you got your face literally crushed face pulverized, wouldn't you be scared in the future about taking shots. So that's the point that I was getting to he's so young and his career now is hindered because such a traumatic injury early on psychologically to get over. That's not easy. You know, the next time he goes into fight, which we don't know, when that would your how long he's gonna now lose years in his prime. He's going to go in there having to be okay psychologically to deal with punching and not think, oh, this might happen again. You know you can't go in there gun shy. And also, like, I don't know if you guys remember, remember when Josh caution fudge ESPN yet is orbital Broten bone broken. He was never really the same after that. And I remember seeing him in fights getting hidden and grabbing his I you know, I don't know if, if he would get injured but just yeah, I think a confidence factor like ways my okay, you know, but that happened in the title fight that happened in the peak of his career, you know. So it's I'm not saying it's okay, obviously, I wouldn't wish that upon anybody. But if something like that supposed to happen, it should happen at that point in your career. Now when you're coming up, you know what I'm saying? So super tough injury. For for, for him. There's a couple of considerations. In addition to this number one, it's like, as you mentioned, like, we don't know exactly how catastrophic that was like. Oh, a rebound is inevitable. Okay. I hope that sounds rose. But like I don't know that it is like Hewlett injury be able to continue to do this. I think the second thing is I made this point. It's like it's not just that tweet. You're talking about where he gets these uncomfortable situations. Like, if you don't groom a fighter correctly, they don't develop correctly. And I don't know what his potential is or could have been, but he's got fourteen pro fights. He's twenty three in two years. Let's say he fights three times a year, twenty five be twenty five years old. You're going to basically know what you got at that point. Right. So I don't know how good is going to be, but we're not far from finding out to be taking shots like this. By the way, the people like sage has no chin bitch. That's shot would have dropped the camp. You kidding me? I'll Ashanti has ridiculous power and accuracy. Flush ridiculous. Never seem. But, but like the, the way this can hinder would supposed to be the growth, period. He's just not. It's not being managed. Well, let's, let's to isn't the footwork in a ring completely different than in a cage. Yeah, I think there's more space in a cage to circle out, you know, in a ring you can get cornered a little bit. So and and Alexandra did a very good job at that he kind of cut him off at an angle. And he you know. The man and then caught him the other way meet them kind of come into it. But yeah, it's, it's a lot different. I feel like in the cage, there's so much space to kind of run away, you know, like if you want you, can you can play that game in a cage where you can move a lot and, and avoid things. And in the ring, I think it's much more difficult. Resembles a circle a lot more, you know in less where you get the ultimate freedom right fighting in back to police point, is what you see, boxers having really excellent footwork in right angles. This is hard to live. Especially someone's really good a cut, and you also then the other part of one over the week. This was happening yesterday. Georgia Petrossian was an kickboxing bout which is part of a tournament face the guy who's tie fighter who is tremendous. I cannot pronounce his name. I will not dry but the other guy, one Georgia Petrosian has a bigger name, I think, to most casual audiences or certainly, one of the bigger store and kickboxing, but he loses now. I thought he won isn't went back and I watched it, but he didn't relatively close. But I thought Petrosian one then Cianci sit on the promoter of one gets out there. And says the I think it, we call it the competition committee decided that the referee didn't enforce the rules, relative to clinching. It wasn't a fair fight, therefore, we're going to overturn it. I was like, what is this? The here's the thing. I agree, Petrosian probably one. But Dinnie is it not super weird that we don't know who's on this committee, what rules they operate by by which standards? Do they apply to overturn a fight or not overturn a fight? Do you not get the Hiba gbs based on this thing? Like I did a one hundred percent. I mean let let's call it how it is. You know, and sometimes media are free to speaking about this because, you know, access is involved. But let's call it how it is. It's not weird. It's sketchy. It's that's what it is. It's sketchy when you're not revealing, you know, fighters weights, you know, in not even the and it still gets to know how much, you know, there are other appointed weighs in at, you know, when you're overruling a judge's decision, basically, in what you're doing is no, this wasn't a win. This was a no contest like it gets into a weird territory. And look, I went and saw the fight right. I didn't see if I live. I saw the fight after after the announcement. And yet, there was clinches where they got broken up several times by the time fighter probably go out on. No. I'm not that will versed in kickboxing as I am in may. But nonetheless, that was that was the, the referee's call, you know, how many times do we see Dana white talking? Smack about referees or judges. Do you know what I'm saying? And he goes all the time. He goes, that's their job. I didn't agree with it. But that's their job. And that's sometimes he has know. Who do you think one in this fight? He's goes, it doesn't matter what I think that, that's what the judges that's what they're so regulated in Singapore before. I mean it's like exactly if that's an availability that that turns everything into something else, like nobody would ever really do that. That's what makes this crazy, right? Like you're you're way, overstepping your bounds. When you have a third party arbiter for a reason, and there's a, there's a big reason because there's gambling like there's outside gambling. There's everything if you can just take, why not just say, well, you know, say north goal was actually winning the fight before that landed. So there's really no difference. I mean do you're still you're changing a you're changing something that you saw that basically goes against what the officials ruled I it just it can't be done it, just it, it it sketchy in. It's like at you. It's crazy. To me, you know, it's like that it doesn't make sense. Did they, they actually overturned? And they're doing a remand. The of the fight, but it's crazy because a lot of fights actually have legitimacy and being overturned, but it doesn't it never happens. You know, people try to get, you know, fights over term, when legal things happen in fights, and it just never happens. But then you have a situation like this. It just seems real sketchy. Like, am I against in theory, the idea of a promotion overturning a fight based on a referee, botching jobless just imagine? Right. Not necessarily I, I can imagine. I can imagine a scenario where if everything is above board. We know under what considerations you would do it. Who's on the committee that makes this season they would have to write up a report, you could read why they did it, what the rules would be about it. Like if I understood what the process was, and who was involved in the process. Maybe I wouldn't agree. But I'd feel a lot better. But you've got a way in system where literally is not public. I asked Gary tonal the our have you ever seen your opponents way in know what the what? And when I call this up people like, oh, there's anecdotal evidence, I'm not saying it's not it's not a good program. I don't know what kind of program it is. Here's what I can say definitively. You don't get to take credit for a damn thing until it's transparent the commission system in the United States is not great Bryan probably knows that better than we. But the reality is this at least they're away ins. The media are invited. You can take photographs. You cannot videotape. You can talk you can look at the scale that's not a perfect system. That's a lot better than I have no idea what my opponent weighed in it. I didn't even get a chance to look at it. The results aren't revealed. You're going to have water style drug testing with literally is not even a thing. It doesn't exist. You got your own agency, you're pushing fighters into which is super sketch, and now you're overturning bouts, and you're not telling us why or who did it or under what circumstances, Gloria red flab sitting other than that, man promotions. Been humming along pretty nicely. At the same time this is what frustrates me like Asian needs a one doesn't it? It's out there doing what they're gonna wanna them who've tried to do the Asian market Mike. Do basically what one is doing failed. So it's good to see them, actually. And I like the fact that they don't have the ten point must system. I actually think that's better. And they are putting on interesting fights. I want them just to do the right thing. What I don't want is emit community. Give them credit for something. They do not deserve. You wanna take credit for something prove it. Yeah, there's there definitely needs to be transparency you, as you said, like I'm still not in favor of a promotion being able to have that power to overrule something. But if you're at least going to do it tell us how you came to that decision. Tell us who came to that who was the people involved that came said decision. But just throwing a Facebook post and being like you'll this is just undermining undermining the officials that basically are in there. It's just it's I just don't get it doesn't translate. You can't do that. I mean they did it. But you can't it's like something that just literally shouldn't be done. All right. Let's go to the next one, which the UFC, Rochester leftovers run all on this one. How hard is it for you to make one thirty five? Not too hard at all. I about one fifty five like when I'm far away from my fight leading up to my fight two weeks out. I'll be like one forty eight and twelve pounds of water. It's, it's not too hard when you show up on Tuesday. What are you typically about one forty eight? That's a lot, she's Christman. Yeah. I I don't I don't get really big. I stay in shape all year round pretty much and I don't I don't like full loft where I gained like a ton of weight and getting the sixties I usually stay one fifty five or under throughout like my whole can't. All right. So you had Kevin Lee in the main event against Huenfeld us owned by the way huddled zone. Just criminally underrated. We'll talk about that and just a second, but I kinda wanna start with Kevin Leland. This one with you. He changes weight classes we knew the ones that you five call was hard for him. We've seen it in person because they have public way in the ultimate fighting championship and sees. Yeah. Not seriously. You could watch look at this guy he looked terrible. Right. So he jumps up away class. And he makes the way he looked so much better at least on the scales. And then he goes up there and has the exact same kind of cardio problems guys full of talent. What went wrong? You know, I think that it was the way that he came out the gate hot like that. He, he started that fight way too fast. And he kept that up the whole way, and it was kind of interesting because when he at the end when he missed that last heat down. He just kind of collapsed. Like he just hit like a wall like his pace couldn't be kept up any longer. And, you know, you could say wait cut or different way class. But Rothfield Dasani says Ford at one fifty five dollars a very fair fight size wise for him. And he's had better performances at fifty five I feel even though the week cuts so hard. He he's done really well he he you know, walk through bar bozo with with wrestling. So I just think that he was so diligent with the wrestling, China take though, Sanyo's down. And I, I really give him the credit for his defense. You use the Comoro a lot to try to, you know, distract him from getting take downs. And I think heavily just got so tired after a while that he just collapsed at the end and kind of gave in. But yeah, I thought he looked healthy at one seventy I think you should probably stay there and you never know it could be a coaching. Something something in this camp the way he's training. You know, I could be training completely different for the type of style that you're gonna put put out there, so who's to know. But you look all right. You would tell you to me to me. I agree with everything you just said, it also seems like he needs to strengthen its plan b a little bit. Like I feel like he doesn't have a plan b it's like he's going. Yeah. It was like he goes in there with a certain game plan and he's stubbornly going to die with it. If you can't get it done. And we've seen him power through guys and make it work, and then we've seen ones like this for guys like off-field as long as we can whether that early storm and been basically take the fight from him. It's been rinse and repeat with a couple of his fights. So you would have liked to seen. I would like to see him develop a plan be a little more where you can see them. Makes them invite a adaptations where he's basically, you know, you see something different from him coming out in the second round or third round. But I think it's just he kind of fixate. It's a little bit on what he wants to do, and it costs them because his cardio, unfortunately, that's what that's what keeps happening to them. I think there's a lot of things to consider, you know. And I got to be very careful with what I'm saying here because this is a the truth. Professional elite fighter. You know, I think, you know, technique wise, and, you know, I've been grappling. I wrestled for two years, I been doing jitsu for almost eight. I think, you know, through a lot of techniques, especially in the take down. He, he tries to power through a lot of a lot of things in, when we see that, and, you know, sometimes it's effective, and you can get through, you can power through certain moves. But nonetheless, it will cost you to your gas tank, some something you have to use frames. There's certain things that, that you technique ways that you implement that that will, you know alleviate that as far as the gas tank goes. I also think you, you know, some fighters are just cardio machines. Like if you look at Kim, Alaska's, that's just the way you're born. Some guys are better built for three rounds. Some guys are better for five you know I think Kevin lease probably a little better built for for three than five. And also, you know, I wanna critique them too much, dude. He fought the number three guy, you know, former world champion he, he didn't get any easy fight. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure if that would have been any other welterweight he. Probably would have gone the w so I still think Kevin Lee is an elite fighter. He's young, there's a lot of room for growth. I'd like to see them again. One seventy just how he looks I think, you know, I wouldn't want to see him back down at one fifty five I think let's take another look. Look, you find a really tough guy. A lot of people have come up short against RDA. Let's see what you look again at one, seventy. So I had a few reads on this one. The plan B one was the one, I read, like what he was against Barboza will things that makes Kevin least dangerous in my mind is he's got the wrestling, but he actively guard passes. And the actively takes mount mount, I think is a lost art, people aren't a very good at it 'cause they just don't practice it but he does so when he can Lord his technical superiority over an opponent. He's a nightmare. He's a nightmare, but if there is a if it's close or the person is even there's no other gear. And like I was on the Monday morning illness. I was looking at the numbers if you look at, like the takedown numbers per round for Habib fight, like one or two most because once he gets you there, bro, you're there, whereas kenley. He was getting a takedown and then he'd get doesn't designed to get up to take down four take those around. This is not you have to have super good cardio ridiculous. Wrestling, or the ability to do punishment in the in between. And if any piece of that any leg of that stool is missing the whole thing collapses. But Brian, I saw an internet commentary, and I want to be very careful how asked this question. Kevin Lee is a polarizing figure now I think he's championship material but he's got some things to figure out. But one of the things they said was Kevin Lee is better about assessing his opponent's weaknesses than he is about realizing his own. So let me ask you one. Do you think that's true? And to how hard is it to assess your own shortcomings, and I don't mean to bring this up, but it is relevant your coming off with two losses. Surely, you must have done some reflection about that. Yeah. I mean you have to look at yourself and see where you're doing things right doing things wrong, yet, you know. That's also the coach's job too. But I'll like meetings with coaches. Not not necessarily meetings. Like I strictly that, but when you're with your coach you'll, you'll, you'll touch on that stuff. You know, you'll talk about that during training or whatnot and see, you know, last fight this happened or this fight. This is going to happen. We gotta work on this, but a lot of fighters don't wanna focus on their opponents that much they want to focus more on themselves and just forget, who they're fighting what they're good at and whatnot. And just get better at every single area so that you're prepared for any situation and with Kevin Lee, I feel like his expenditure of energy is a big thing, and that's something you can't teach. And that's why he's he's using so much strength, like he was saying with everything. He's streaming, you know, he's trying to get you down so much he doesn't go to the plan b like you were saying, before, like, also the takedown, he's just holding waiting trying to get you down straining shrinking. But he doesn't go off to a single switch back to a double. He doesn't do a lot of switching like that. And, you know, I Don I don't I don't know if he's has a game plan issue. Or if it's you know the way he's training. But, you know who knows. I'm not I'm not sure. After after a win or loss. Do you ever go back in and have a hard time figuring out like why? It went the way it did. Or when something goes, right or wrong. You're able to be like, okay, this is why this worked, this is why this didn't. It's, it's not. It's not that cut and dry to me. I feel like sometimes you lose a fight and it's just you got caught or that guy was better that night. I it could be simple things like that. But you have to just get better everywhere. You know if you got taken down a bunch of times and held down he got taken down four times in that fight. Yeah. Now, it's like we need to work, our takedown defense, and our get ups. You know what I mean? Like something specific if it's so obvious in the fight like you got broken down here. You know, like you didn't move you, you were in a Comoran, you just stayed there type of thing like, then you can look at specifics. But other than that, I feel like it's just get better overall everywhere. Yeah, I great. So then that takes us to I'm not the same fighter. You are. That's what. Yes. Heavyweight championship. Megan Anderson, now, this is another one where it's like I'm not sure what to say about this one because. You'll Felicia Spencer was a black bones jitsu. She's just really good. She just knew how to progress an attack is Megan Anderson Danny, but of another sage situation where I don't get identical. But these people get pushed so far, then there's these ridiculous unfair expectations that they can't possibly live up to what happened there. I think, yeah, I think just there's a few issues there like for one matchmaking is key. And matchmaking is very important for fighters development. But when you have literally, no division, then all of a sudden matchmaking becomes really hard. Right. I think from the Holly home fight. We saw that Megan. Anderson, clearly had a hole in the in the wrestling, and grappling department, would you have Holly home, a very decorated, you know, boxer and kickboxer someone that's historically only, you know, in harmony fights, you know, start striking. And then, you know, she recently added the wrestling component by no means. She's an elite wrestler. Yes, she was, you know, and also a wake less below she was throwing around Megan Henderson, and then. They pay her up with cats and Ghana which, you know that fight we know high went down and then Felicia spends her know former Invicta champion super legit. Black belt. So I think the matchmaking was was quite were in this specific situation. And I think you know, meeting Anderson has is very talented. But this is why you need, you know, we're having this is why you need certain fights that, you know, proper matchmaking, you know, would allow that, but with no division. You know, you're just bound to bring, you know, the best of the best to, to fight, you know, she's twenty nine I feel like with matchmaking. It's kind of it's interesting because it's up to the business. The UFC to say like we want to we want to focus on good matchmaking for this fight. I felt that doesn't go across the board. Like they're not focused on, like we want a good match up style for this fighter. They're just like, well, this is the next person. They did that. We're giving certain people, I'm saying, but not across the board. Not for everyone like Megan Anderson, now a big star. I, I know the way class is, you know, not not strong but they're willing to risk her losing to bring in a new star potentially because the week class, isn't deep made it out. But I mean they have her doing a lot of media. She's, she's sort of it'll, it feels like the UFC believes in her and one invest in her is just the matchmaking portion has an line. But also, like I talked to Laura Cinco who does a podcast whether they, they know each other, and Laura was telling me, she was like, let me just she's like, Nope. You don't have to believe if you don't want to, but she's like I trained with Laura or excuse me, with Megan, I know very well. She knows the answers to all the position, she was in just don't fight nights something didn't go wrong in Bowie. She walks around mid one. Seventies as part of me wonders, like do that cut might be a lot harder votes. Realize, yeah. She's tall, man. Klis a bet you it is. But what, what is she supposed to do? You mean they fell one million Kayla Harrison? That's the way it'd be seriously, one of those situations where she just doesn't somehow the spotlight when she get in there. And it's a very isolated. You know there's some people that's, that's the toughest thing is when it becomes time to execute. You just lose some of it or you're slow to react or whatever the thing is it could literally be something like forever. But we've, I've, we've certainly seen her look a lot better. So I I'm not sure but it seems to me like there could be somewhat of a psychological issue going on there, too. I reached out to people to do interviews. And like doing interview coaches were saying, like in the gym, she's knocking out dudes installed. She's doing really well, but under the lights could be on this crazy, because they really, they really increase the spotlight on her because she was being kinda groomed in this weird way despite cyborg. And that was kind of out of the gate, and there's a lot of their first familiarity with her were basically, like, oh, this could be a person to come on and challenge cyborg. That's a hell of a place to start. You know what I mean? That's your lineage. Yeah. And then but you're not ready because you're still developing your game. And it doesn't matter. Because they need you now it's like it's a terrible. Now. Now Spencer's there. She's number two, now just like that. I mean in fairness to Felicia like do Felicias very skilled there. Yeah, he'll Jerry sale. So it's like how is making gonna make up that distance in the in between? You got a lot of work. I don't really know what I don't know what the answer there. We let me do it very, very quickly. I want to say a word of praise to ha- feld Assange to the fight was over. Everyone was like all Kevin Lee fell short, which is not fair to Kevin. And it's not fair to have held is hard to do you always has always as always. Good. He's twenty nine and eleven Brian and the reason why I wanted to bring this up is at twenty nine eleven he's as he pointed out number three in the world. Still in the world's wait wait class, which is not the best one second best one, you have an issue with that bantamweight. You went said it's a little better. But still, you know what I'm saying premier way classes in the sport. And what's happening is, if you are twenty nine and eleven with the kind of losses, he had as a boxer, you'd be washed he'd be nobody. You would not be anything but he is like the exemplar of what it means to be an MA elite fighter because, yes, he has fallen short, you know, fallen short because he took risks and he fought tough dudes out, more often than not he beat him, but he was speaking about the different cultures between anime in boxing, RDA is pure, and isn't he. Yeah. You have to praise that he's fought to who's who won fifty five one seventy and champion. Yeah. Became a champion, and he's taking devastating losses and after taking a devastating loss and coming back and still performing the way he does like you. You have to give high praise that I got and that was a great performance. A lot of people are saying, like all Kevin Lee, this, Kevin that he tried his best to implement this game plan, the whole fight, you know, and then RDA shut it down, essentially. But all people see is that like he failed at doing what he was doing. But RDA's he's doing amazing at one seventy right now. And, you know, he's been knocked out bad a bunch of times, and he shows no signs of fear, and they're still so high priest those kinds of bells truck. Not be shopworn. No. Because he was he's coming off a couple of losses rightly so coming to pay more, which was the record beating. Exactly. And then and then to Kobe. Right. And it's like so you, you're not wanting to present. Sure. Because sometimes you do get a guy like that third fight where it's a desperation kind of fight, and they, they will look different. But I you know that guy always brings it like you said, and it's crazy. You were mentioning how unsung he is ultimately like when he went through Pettus, back in the day. A lot of it was like what's up with Pettus, what, what happened with Pederson, then he beats cowboy the whole narrative, when he's fighting cowboy in that fight was about cowboy wasn't about already and then he goes right through him. And I felt like we never gave him his, his praise for that either. He's one of those guys, you know, he fights guys like Robbie Lawler, and you think like still be the one who's going to you know go right in and he wins up fight. You're just like the guy is just he's, he's not, he's like it's perseverance. But it's there's something else. There's something else that we haven't identified a quarterback who throws the inception, and then take on the next possession marches them right down the field of amazing. And I've always said of this, I think raffled pound for pound the most well rounded fight. In the game. He started getting these, I fight, you got viciously Kayode by Jeremy Steven. They look. Look at them now. Yeah, I think he broke his jaw in that broke his jaw. Yes. All the guys. He's fought. On the back. It was one of those Gable grip j just kind of crushed crushed it a little bit. Yeah. So no one gave him any praise. And I couldn't believe it. But okay, we took time to do it. That's how I know the last thing of this portion of the show, it's called under the radar but we look at just maybe one story that we didn't get to on the run down today. That's worth a mention we start over there work this way. Ford, Chuck, what is under the radar shutout to one Adams who heavyweight who's been basically calling for a shot against them egg? But for the most punishable guy, probably in the AFC right now, the one that people wanna see get beat up Greg hardy. And who's able to get sounds like that. It's happening. And I, I gotta say, sometimes like you see that a guy who wants up. They actually put it out there. It's a it's just one of those weird lessons you like dude shoot shoot your shot, go for the stars and that sort of thing so good job by him. Shout out to the California kid who's not a kid, but he's trying to make a comeback. You know, he's he's hinting at possible opponents that are being thrown at them and just had a kid. I'm sure that, that's inspiring him. But I just find it interesting in this game. You know, your favorite is a guy who smart with business. He has multiple businesses, and he obviously probably doesn't need money. He doesn't need to fight for money, but it just goes to show the addiction of competition. We always want to get that feeling back, you know, there's nothing like winning a fight out there, so you know, without being compared to that, I'd his age, I'm kinda surprised he wants to come back. He's done enough in the sport. He has nothing to prove, but, but you know, we'll see. Brainer to write for Sacramento, Sacramento coming up. So that, that makes a lot of sense for him. But I wonder where they'll go with matchmaking with him if they'll give them like an up and comer or like a big name, still I wonder where they'll go. The competition facing NICKY Ryan over in Polaris in jujitsu match this weekend understand made this point when he had him on the show. He brought Gordon Ryan over for quintet. So he knows who the Ryan brothers are. And they decided to go and match up with NICKY, Ryan and every time I asked somebody who's trained or rule with NICKY, Ryan. I'm like, what's it like to go God like it's a nightmare to go with that guy? So he went up and signed up for it to your point. The guy loves it man. Yeah. He's staying sharp. He said he loves training, jujitsu. So you know, obviously his desire for competition ago against a guy like that crazy. What's under the radar? So cannabis company, a company that must. Home. So anyways, they, they signed a we'll tell you we'll take a billion a million dollar partnership with the UFC and they're going to be at the just doing some tests on CBD. I guess, you know, with athlete, you know, injury prevention and recovery all that, you know, CD you know, and I like this because we want experimentation, we want to find out what works, and what doesn't make maybe it doesn't lead to anything. Maybe it does we don't know. So they're going to do that as well. And, you know, I'm also happy because we know the stigma, and we know that marijuana is a banned substance, at least in competition. And we know obviously, how Silia is and maybe you know, I know CBD's a little bit different but maybe that can start breaking some of the stigmas around the, the plant. Yeah, well as I indicated many times number radio show. No one knows about CBD people have anecdotal evidence that it works. And if it works, you think it works by all means keep using it? But as I speak today, there's not a whole lot of evidence that. It does which just totally unknown. Plus there's like a lot of inconsistency. Like you might know a good company, and I might not know good company, and so therefore, we're getting totally different kinds of products. So that's a bit of the wild west for me me under the radar was you started decided to sort of bless NS, f-, sanctioning are, and as a screening for supplements, your supplement where you could sort of trust that they have undergone a sufficient degree of quality, control. You never know what they're contaminated. But it's simply reduces the risk which I don't have any issue with for the most part, what I did find funny and the no one will notice this. Have you been to the performances to before once? Yeah, it was. It was a it was a cool. Yeah. Good. Signed a deal with something called. Thorne. T. H. O R, N E supplements. And I looked them up. They do have high ratings, but it's not exactly what you would think it's less GNC, and more, like, Walgreens where like you can get creating at Walgreens, but I don't know. That's what you were gonna Walgreens to get actually. Yeah, it's, it's more like lifestyle. You know, how things your grandmother might take the note than a fighter. So I urge you to look it up again. They do have high ratings which needs to be knowledge. They are NSF certified, the only thing I've found kind of interesting was on the front page of their website. They have detox products, which is red flag city because there's no such thing, you know, all those girls on Instagram who still you fit fifties. They're not really we're seeing those I'm going to do a juice cleanse. It doesn't exist. You have your kidneys your liver, your sweat glands, and your skin that is your body's natural detox. There is no such thing as detoxing with toxins. So for them to have it on the front page of their website. And they're the ones in the PI. Worth looking into. Right. All right. Well, you just put it over the radar rather over. Over. You're on notice. Just keep that in mind. Hey, Brian did. All right. Rights to still feel my heart take him. But folks to what's next. How can they get in touch with you? If they want to troll, you whether you control me at Brian, boom, one three five on Twitter, Instagram, the you're supposed to fight may you had an injury. What happened was to see you again? Yeah. I had a neck injury. Unfortunately, I would've liked to push through it and fight, but I was advised by management, coaches, you know, last fight on my deal. Don't don't risk it one hundred percent which now looking back. I agree with. But in the in the moment on my I, I wanna get in there, you know, I put the work in, but I feel like I could do it, but who we supposed to supposed to fight Mitch ganja's who? Who was that was a good fight for you. Yeah. Good matchup for me. Good style. That made it hurt a little bit more enough fighting and having watched a fight, I think I could have done well still and, you know, hopefully, get back in their early July. Nothing set nothing official. But yeah, you could check out my YouTube channel. I try to do the boom breakdowns for the and, and music to I've been working on music. I got it out on Spotify. You could just search boom in and some new songs coming out. Yeah. I get the microphone here. I got like the music stuff. Look. Always that music in my family man. With your plan out here. Look forward to having you back in the cage, that's where you really belong now this was another dream of Mayes, this is awesome. I really appreciate our very good. Well, we are done here, keeps sending those questions those comments using the hashtag the MMA beat for the iceman Chuck mendenhall, Brian, boom, Kelleher, Danny, the mustache Sigler mustache in Spanish, a good thing be going. Thomas ends up to let them fly. This is the maybe.

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The Boxing on a Corner with a FURY-ous Clout Chaser in Black History Month Episode

The Corner

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The Boxing on a Corner with a FURY-ous Clout Chaser in Black History Month Episode

"What listener we wanted to take a second to thank you for listening to this blue wire. Podcast be sure to show your support to this pond. By subscribing and dropping a five star review on itunes a follow on spotify or the appropriate job for any other platform might be listening. And if you're enjoying this show chances. Are you'll like one of our seventy five other sports. Podcasts find more shows you'll love at blue iron PODS DOT com. Thanks again for listening and now back to your regularly scheduled podcast what everybody welcome to. Another week of the corner podcast. It was a huge fight. Weekend here Vegas Wilder Fury Too. But before we get into that. This podcast is brought to you by bet on line. Bet Online the fastest easiest and safest way to bet on all things sports with March madness the masters and Major League opening day. Right around the corner buy online. Has All the latest news scores and odds to help you win. 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We got discriminated against. What fucking because we're GonNa talk about the obviously the thing. We're going to talk about his wild if you're in everybody knows that it's like does biggest fight to happen. You guys don't wins going. We're going to talk about but I just want to talk about this real quick. 'cause WE'RE ALSO. GonNa talk about black history and my little situation that came up this week but this was a little crazy because after the fight was man this everybody was busy. Kale at me. Kevin from Yahoo went on Mondo from Yahoo. You met the piece of spot. We ate chopped it up. We had some fucking a proper twelve. Help lamented oh shout out to the sponsors Dan. We got a lot of products. I was thinking about like boxers. Know she couldn't finish her. She was mix drink shit so bounce by the time you our even drinking it because we shot it in the. We didn't again. But I poured their last Mackenzie ingredients in. Greg walked up when I was bouncing glasses when I was leaving. Oh he drank that when it was just four of US drink it. Yeah we had a nice amount bottle yes so so after you left and then whenever you did. I'm sure you know. Did you think families we? I was walking out and I'm like I'm going to leave and then you know a minute from La Times. Everybody's outside the ball. And I walk up and I'm like no fucking doing three in the morning. Go home and so obviously the Jesus Christ all right so we go to the bar now all talking research program managers with us. We're just talk into some other fights talking about the week general You know it's the wind down man like you know. Some of the guys will see next week. I'll see copied in Texas for Mikey Garcia fight. Which we'll talk about towards the end of the show and Greg from the athletic was this. You know. I'm like all right cool. Let's drink so staying at this bar. And Kinda SORTA busy but not really in this Little Guy. That was bartending. And you know you know how this goes where you're at the bar you leaning on the bar you like trying to get the bartender's attention. But you're in the middle of compensation so and Kenneth Two brothers which trying to get this guy's attention now. Greg standing behind Greg is white. Mike sitting programs manager away from us in. Nuke is as you can imagine. He's not awake already. He's lit in the crazy thing is he ends of effigies after party after all this. I don't know how this shit but we're all standing there in. It's like twenty minutes. Go By bartending. Never shows up now. We're just talking and then finally Kennedy. Oh to fuck thirty minutes go by. Barclays is walking buyers right so finally. I'm like you know. Give them the year and he looks any like do. Some white do walks up. He gives them three bud lights in front of me and it. Kennedy's like yeah. What man he just got. We Miss Standing and try to get your attention the whole time you know this says bars closed deal and I do you know the week I've just had like immediately now my cartridges. Just walked up. Greg just walked up and they've never really seen in my element in for a second. I that guy I was with the fuck. You mean you close like dog right here and you just serve this. Do Three Bud lights walked up and we'd be standing here thirty minutes and Kennedy's brothers L. A. I never really hear him curse. Kennedy's is he goes off and he's like our age you know he's in his thirties. What the fuck he was like. Oh man you just not going to take our money. That's that's when I really got. I'm trying to give you my money. And he's like he just looked he looked down goes bars closed and walked off. Close the bar on us. Oh you better me out a retried over one point. I was like you know what I started walking around the bar maneuver to your credential on. Still WanNa do this here and I'm just like man the week like I saw reasonable for us to the motherfucker. We that I just had and you just going to do this to me at the bar like for you serve people. We've been thirty minutes and it ain't just to black dude. I mean if you WanNa just discriminate against us. It's not cool but maybe but it's like it's a bunch of us and we got fight credentials on. It's like again compensator Greg. It's all they're all spread out but the only two people he sees me and candid fuses to give a service closes the fucking bar. That's how we're starting to show this week with discrimination and and motherfuckers have been on my time all week talking about this whole black history month thing. We'll talk about that in a second but this that was the culmination of everything was in that very moment. I was like you know what I'm going home. I'm done I don't see I see you just for a split. Second movie style. They do a cut screen. Cut Back to you and you got the deontay wilder all black face mask on with the Red Eyes. Smoke POPS UP OUT OF NOWHERE. Robin like you ready. You're ready to go to the rape. Not this black history month I was. I was so irritated and he just was really because it was happening. And I remember I was standing next to Gregg and I was like you see this right because like y'all thinking I'm crazy. When are we talking about discrimination racism? You think I'm like ultrasensitive and I'm not but when Shit like this happens. I need you to see this in action. Because he he just denied a survey that you watched it. You saw. It was right in front of you. They saw we end so carbon copies drunk so easily whatever but it happened and I was just like wow shit never changes me. That's just so fitting for this week and for the end of the week to go like that man. It's that's crazy. I'm glad I WANNA stairs. That would be the worst part if you would have been there too. Because I had people call me down. They saw was amping up. Nobody's really seeing me pissed off before like they. Oh Shit like and they can't get mad too so it's like manute who was like the nicest guy ever like you know you don't you do this and Kinda do you. I'm an instigator by today's flipped over the bar. The whole ball toned-down. It had been like three would have been like you know once. A black boxer turned the fuck up and destroyed the bar. The would've been pricing Salman reporting straight. Yeah he and he would have been reported on us but he probably would have proper twelve in his hand because he would he came up to. Yes what kind of forever at. Oh shut up. The whole week was just crazy right. We gotta talk about the entire week and figure we break this into two parts will do kind of a run down to the atmosphere and all the shenanigans that happened. And then we'll rewind and talk about the actual fight so first off there was some clout chasing going on. Oh we talked about this last week. We talked about this last episode. So we don't have to go to in-depth people do not listen to our little rant are so box speech there was cloud chasing going on a lot of people outside the venue acting like they inside the venue. Like all right man like you take your picture that you little youtube videos while you chasing you around casino. I get it. I get it but I don't get outside of the cloud chasers that just elevated us and me personally drake to new levels of petty this fight week because you know what the glow up is real dry. You posted the picture on social media yesterday. If you guys are listening and haven't seen a check it out me. Andreas his Ponder before the fight and she reminded us. It's been like ten years solid eight since we've been kind of on his grind and like seeing each other just make different steps and doing different. Things and ponder was on the second episode of the corner. Podcast is our guest. That's right. She was when she didn't have to be anything she just did us a solid and came on. She was our second guess. First Week was big Mac. Second Week Christina Ponder so she was there from the start she seen so much In terms of you know the show itself and then what we do outside their show and how we've grown from you know you with Damn near ten different outlets to now be in the senior editor of one or not only one but two major platforms me at. Espn hurt Shit. Rocketing past all of us and being on TV just just crushing it. Right like her everything. Just what she has been able to accomplish is incredible all while you know. I guess the relatively same. You guys both started families and just it's been a whole growing up. Maturity type process in that picture was so dope because of that and it was just like damn. Yeah like you know what we been through some shit but now we hear the globe is Real. I ain't guilty. I still on a state. I got a picture Elaine took a picture of me when I was like prepping on I take stage in the house. Like yes I'm at the desk sportscenter here I take is on the Mat and then fight night at the post my my minor flex you know. Just real quick. My name on the apron like Like no tables this week what ringside while the damn near fell in my lap. Drake got knocked down. He was right there right there. Little swam your forehead sainted wild side. I'm telling you so. I feel like we had to you know especially when we're going to get into the week that was for you. But you know we kind of have to puff our chest up a little bit like you know what fuck that we here. We got to let people know we're here. Yeah again you know. Somebody's told me recently to own worn nobody else before you and I'm really modest man like I've done a lot of things but you know I've talked about on the show. Forcefully forced. Come on my show a lot like I don't do it a whole lot somebody. Somebody challenged me social media. But I felt like this particularly day as we were walking as being you were walking. Check out the urban loitering and Christina octo. Because we're going to take a picture and I Christine. I was just like Oh in my head. I think we've really come a long way in this particular space because we were like. Yeah I've been covering by for a while but now we've moved into home positions of power. I guess where you know which we'll talk about like I ask the first question. The press conference Christina is like killing it One of the first women on commentary full-time and then you overhear Espn Readiness Social Media County just Kinda crushing on digital so to see that. Come together in a post sales three keys had a dream and just kind of manifested and we made this should have reality. And it's like the triple threat because you're any SPS's a top ranking. I'm at the zone as fortnum suicide like to see all of us. We're still cool. And she made a very interesting point that stuck with me 'cause she was like you know as the old guard goes away. We are becoming the new guard. They will become the old guard but as cargoes way like the old guard sometimes as yet let the young guard in. This is like prevalent everywhere. You know whether it's hip hop whether it's journalism in general like sometimes they don't want to give up their jobs to the new generation and we've kind of forced are we in especially being minorities we kind of just like. Oh this is going to be in the space because as we talk about a billion times in the show. Aren't that many black people in combat sports not a lot of women in combat sports? Either covering it. You know like the way that we have. But she was like you know now is our chance to usher in the new generation and we have an open door policy where we WANNA put people on you know whether it be fighters as Rin Shawn Porter shopping and does like doozer trying to interview shows. No I'm talking about right here. You know. We saw families like he's got baby number. Two on the way like we have become entrenched in the next generation of fighters in writers and people cover the space and she pointed that out. And I'm like you're absolutely right. And while he was like the perfect week where everybody got to see that all come together because we all were in these strong spaces you know. Obviously the old guard is still going to do guard stuff. And there's still a cool but man that's it we we don't we don't do this shit like we're not pretenders we are here and we are going to open doors for the next wave young journalists. WanNa get in the game. So that's why we took some people looked at like a flex it was but at the same time. We need to know that we are kind of here for you all to. I'm never GONNA be against putting somebody else on and she's not in Kale. You're not so this. This is what we need to do. 'em And you send it from the start. That's always been like the key right. We got to climb high enough to then pull people up with us like sometimes you know you get the door crack in the door. You kick that Shit Open and as soon as you did. I've run through all of them and I've been telling you every interview I've had they've asked me about you. We were just talking to Peter Peter this week and we're talking. Yeah Yeah Peter. We're talking to Peter this week at the fights in there for a Mani manages Amman. I met him when he was at Zander's fight. But talking like you. I know you like you're so familiar. And all this stuff and I was like man. I don't know how we know. Each other boom Lo and behold. Because he you like this is just usually how the stuff goes it just shows like and people could feel how however they want 'em we'll dive into it here right after. I say this but you and your voice and it shows times like what happened this week. How how big and how powerful your voice is but the fact that it seen heard and this is such a polarizing on many platforms. And what you do you don't even realize it but your voice is so big that it does allow an open the doors for other people to just go right behind you and be like cool and be comfortable in that space. That's alive man. I mean I know like I don't really get it all. I like when it happens like when things like this happen. Just kinda deal with as it happens so when you say stuff like that and when Peterson stuff like that people say stuff like that I it doesn't really resonate into light. Never take a breath and step back and say. Wow you know what you're right. Oh because I don't know because I stood for me. I'm scratching and clawing like I'm still trying to prove myself. So there's a part of me we shit like what we're about to talk about happens in departments like man. Did I really like did I? Black Ball myself from certain group of individuals. Because think about fuck. Because I'm no good at what I do and anybody who doesn't thing I'm GonNa do that's fine. That's cool if you don't believe it but you know my paycheck is good and you see me and working my ass off and I'm going to be any spaces and you're just gonNa have to deal with me whether you like me. And that's what I kind of realized this week is like there were a lot of people estimates. Say so I guess you know. Let's talk about. I'll let you tell you and then I'll really tell everything that went into what happened this week. All right so it all starts in. I'm going to paint the picture for me watching from afar. I am side. Stage OF WILDER FURY PRESS CONFERENCE AND. They're taking videos. I'm chilling getting unique angles and stuff and they go through. They have funny moments. I'm chilling trying to edit something on my phone. You know. Get a little viral tweet going out and I looked up and they're like we'll be taking questions earlier in the day. You kind of prepped. Me and you like Yo. They they want to ask a question at this presser. I might ask the question of the all right but I did not know at that time. I know only be like two questions. Asset this press conference so that's one of two questions you get the Mike I so I'm like Oh let me see. Let me go dray. What is he going to say? And you as the Anti Wilder what I thought was a very reasonable and normal last question a follow up of something. He said on the on the road to fury wilder too little documentary series that they had out which was is black. History like data messed up because he's black history month so I'm making a black history month. Trivia question was wild as you ask him like. Okay so how do you really feel about fighting in black history month? Kind of paraphrasing. Just what does that mean you will go into exactly what he said and I was like. That's a dope. Ask Question Cool. I knew where it was formulated from because while there had been talking about this several times you talk to them the day before about this no one. I understand that not. Everyone understands that context behind the question or people just tend to ignore that context twitter especially social media especially does not care to dig in to the nuances of a question like that you ask it while they gives you a normal answer. Fury cuts him off response to the question that you just asked Wilder Not Tyson fury and tells you or tells everyone that this is not a black versus white fighter thing this is a man versus man thing and he will not partake in any type of race conversation for this fight one. He wasn't asked that question but cool. That's your response as good. I don't think he's really. I didn't hear prior to that his stance on that topic. It was a good answer. No harm no foul onto the next guy's question. This is where your mentions blow the fuck up and this is where. I talked to you because over for the next three four days it was whole. Larry is to just see a one point. You had like eight thousand notifications nut so so here. Here's my son. Yes so Monday. I got a chance to sit down with Tyson fury for zone Germany because Jeremy team was streaming the the fight so I got to sit down with fury for that televised portion of it. Tuesday I gotta change the wilder now on Tuesday because black history month and I wear black prior closed at a Black Panther sweater on I was wearing a black panther sweater. The onset comes in with his firm with no shirt underneath his chains on it and as we go to the interview Deonte like kind of point sees my sweater and Tim Smith. Who's a black dude that works for PVC and runs all the Pr Department? There Tim he notices. Well he's cool and as we stand taking pictures and I was like you know what I've never. I've never taken in Dante kind of like. Here's looks like excellence. All right cool so we take a picture and we posted and I was like. This is because you know shit. I'm not picking sides but I have to support my brother's been through all this and is very proud of this now. After the interview we talk about black history month and he's just like this big big deal like I want to go down and black history knows a bunch of other words says while Shit sometimes but I remember that and I'm thinking like Oh you know if I get a chance to ask you this publicly I will. I didn't know it was asking the press conference question at the time the following morning Evan Corn. Pr From Top. Rank tells me like. Can you ask a question? The press conference. I say sure. Now's the press. Conference is going and as you remember this like. Wow because you're pushing and shoving each other call each other names and this is a nasty televised broadcast. I mean press conference Kevin. Sitting next me. Do you have your question. And I'm looking at them pushing shoving him like no because initially. I kind of think leaning towards like animosity because I didn't expect this to happen as it keeps going like. You know what I'm just GonNa ask this question because it'd be a good sound bite because I don't know how much talent went ahead and I could use it for my own story. And so I get the give me the MIC. That's in the question is you know you've had a Lotta viral moments. From to this day you had a big moments with knockdowns in the first fight and now you're getting the opportunity to face. Tyson fury on black history month. What does that mean to you? And that's when he the WanNa make them obliges trivia question. Now what I didn't know until later was Tyson. Fury was getting needle that by Jason. Whitlock maybe fifteen before the press conference on this beefy Celsius and I'm glad across with Llahu because women on site but I guess kept talking about the black white thing. That's Tyson kind of said the line that he said to me there so I guess he was hyper sensitive about race but again like you said. The question was directed towards you the response. Whatever is fine if you feel like you need to answer that sure. My question is is very was knockout. You're expected to win by decision. Candioti wilder winning decision. Like what is the likelihood have thought about that entice? You just completely doesn't answer that question and it talks about the race thing as I'm going back seat like a few people sent me videos of me asking a question. I start hearing groans. I start hearing like things and then my social media blows up and I'm like what the fuck is going on and people tell me they're upset. Us question. I said who say oh you know the higher ups who then like other people you know. Why did you ask why they want to know why? Us nobody ever approached me was like why did you ask that question? Everybody was just like somebody wanted to know why you ask that question. I said who who if somebody has a problem with the question. Come to me I will tell you. Please don't send messages to talk to me. Because they know me. I'm not really that much of a standoff ish guy but also not the friendliest guy so I don't just go out of my way to talk to people but if you have an issue come see me and it's not going to be like some brush. I just WanNa know so this. Nobody says anything. Now I get a video when I hear some. Uk guys like all the stabbing asking that question then. Somebody sends me an article that was on like heavy dot com. I was race baiting. Tyson fury and I was insinuating a race war then I was getting like Michael Benson from bt Sport talksport in UK. Po Census Fury is not going to engage in race conversation. That was the tweet that just kind of broke everything. Because it's video of me. Asking the question is tag me in the video so now I look at my mentions and you know I guess on your tweet you like twenty plus and that's it actually was ridiculous. It was like show more show more and I was like what I'm looking at all of these tweets. I'm getting threats. I'm getting called like coon inwards about my obviously all these massive counts coming at me right all these ghosts accounts. But then there's other was like why would you do that? You global all these people and then when I show up the next day because after Wednesday was Thursday under-car press conference. I think I saw you a little bit into that. And more people like so now. The black riders are like. That was a great question. I don't know what the chicken about and I'm like who's tripping like. What the fuck you tom out. And they're like oh well if somebody asks me who. I'm like. Yo who is asking all these questions about me. They know me as a Fox. Espn top rank. Oh she's you know they they they they and then I'm getting texts from like people in other states like sending texts me in this video and articles to me in like the. There's an article uses my name is Andrea Hale insinuates. Deontay wilder can't win a decision white judges on black history month. What Joe what a stretch. Then there was another article that said Andreas Hill asked. If deontay wilder will take great pride and beaten the big white hope on black history month. I never asked this question dog in never happen. So all of these people got hyper sensitive about this and the piece though like outside of your question that would have been a dove article if that person actually right yeah right but it was just like all these people and even as we're doing this show right now from the star of the show. I have thirty nine mentioned specifically about that. The fight is over. People is done. There are thirty seven minutes from the time I started this conversation. I'm just looking at it right now. On top of that people have dug up my post from the Koby covens tomorrow. Use men fight. It was like it didn't work out in your favor now did it. Or that's why you black. It was like somebody called me spade. Like what is this called a spade in Geelong next missed it because it got to the point where I just couldn't even scroll through gave up like I was like I can't. I can't even read all this shit but I've been called so many names and people like an again emails from people. I don't know even know how few working mill they found emails. We email me like I've got like your brand of racism in your racist and I'm calling your job to get you fired so just like Houston Covington thing. Disown is getting emails about me but guess what people they liked me. They know who I am and what I bring to the table so the people that didn't like fuck him if you didn't come to me and then you had issue with it fuck you and if you endorse me. I'm happy that's cool. We're on the same team. But that's never going to stop me from doing what the fuck do. And that was like the most innocent question ever because if you ask Kinetico about fighting on Cinco de Maya. Was that a problem. Somebody was like this black history of this race. Listen man says celebration of the contributions to the culture of African Americans shortest fucking month of the year. Can we get fucking bone please? I can't ask if we KINDA McGregor about fighting on Saint Patrick's Day is that a problem. If it's Chinese New Year and there's a Chinese fighter fighting we ask him. Is that an issue. But for some reason people felt like as a black man and being who? I am asking a black fighter. Who's very proud black man? It doesn't make us any white but asking this question about this opportunity to make history in a month. We're don't usually fight for the biggest fight of the year in February doesn't really happen. May with the took over single Demayo in Mexican Independence Day black vinyl using final February. That's why I question because this was the biggest heavyweight fight in recent memory. Maybe this past twenty years. That's why is this question. But now I'm branded as Rhesus congratulations. Kill you on a podcast with a racist called a day I S. oh some girl. That was a trump. Don't even spell. Call me a bigot with an e I was like sweetheart spell. I when you start coming at me. Thanks men's me. Do Your Simon over intern. Anybody in the Business Day and on Thursday you had todd. Oh yeah time time because the press conference is GonNa fire him back like an again. A lot of people ask me like you. Why do you do this and I think the main reason? Sometimes why do this is because I need some of your see how this world works because we also have social media being these curated experience we only deal with people you know but because I work at so many different fields like boxing music culture film like Info? Because I've done all of these different things people that follow me for different reasons. There's a lot of times when people follow me for like MMA and. They're getting really really surprised when I started talking about culture and politics and be like oh they got what they wanNA attack me so every now and then when I look through my mentions which every day I get something very disrespectful but on this particular day I was like oh out of these eight thousand mentions I'M GONNA pick a couple of these cats L. and they'll ask him questions like Oh and I'm GonNa see you bucks. Obviously someone goes council. You know a fall for the trap shooting but other times they engage. Somebody told me that a white people the only one. They're trying to absolve races of people like you. The reason why still alive and I was like Oh. Is this a ghost county three thousand follow? It was like a real person knowing people really think that. It's wow with people think someone deontay lost so many messages like that linked to to say how do you feel? Oh ha ha your guy lost. And I'm like I just gave fury all the credit in the world. I didn't have a dog in the race. Link that of course I'd like to see why but I'm a journalist like I'm not picking sides. I think he's a fantastic fighter. He might be one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. So I'm like I'm not hurt but you guys really think this was like a race war. It wasn't that this was a great fight if DNC may black history fantastic. I would've been happy for him but man. Oh Oh on top of that. Dc walked out with them which I found out earlier in the day and I kind of alluded to it which we deontay is going to walk out and bring the smoke with them and I was Lu- because I knew people hit me like this is your doing. No it's not my doing but I'm happy to see it because that is welcome out in the black habits like black excellence like why are people offended by black? Excellence wire people so affect offended by this especially like why people like as the key you can be pro black and not be anti white. If you're not mutually exclusive. Somebody was like I'll bet my bottom dollar. You have no white friends. Are you nuts. I'm not that got run around. We got white friends but listen shake from two. Boys was the best man in my wedding. Come along people relax. My Grandmother Was White Semi Racist White and she was white woman. But it's like I don't I don't like I don't do that L. Just not lightweight who can say why because Jason Whitlock is at the top of my head list and he's black. There's nothing to do with this. I mean tally but some of these people really while with this shit. So yeah. That's what I had to deal with this week. And you know and then having to deal with that bar issue after all that Jesus Christ man and the Alpha real but I guess. I'm doing something right because nobody nobody pay attention so last year. We are exactly. That's the key. If you were no one. No one would have paid attention. You got the Mike for a reason you again. They give you the MIC to get good questions talking points and to sell the fight for better or worse you hit all three so whether they like it or not. You did the job they wanted done. You could have said so. Let me get your prediction for tomorrow or for Saturday night's fight and then told you the same thing I'm knocking out into is what fury would've said while he going to sleep like some stupid like cool man like it would've been the same regurgitate answer. You Gotta question that gave a different context and nuance to the story. Being told now it is a definitively not going to be painted a black versus white fight cool but we have quotes from both people explaining how they feel about it while they're still said he wanted to make him a black history month trivia question and then came out with one of the most black enters. You'll ever see people. Hey so so he wanted to make it a celebration of blackness not anti fear you're anti white. He said I want my name. Pretty Mu- I want my name to go down in the history of black history month. It just so happens that ties fury is white and he asked the catch is work is what he went into the fight. Say Not that. Oh it's it's going to be black history with cutlets. White Guy knows going to be black history. 'cause it's the best two heavyweights in the world. And I'M GONNA win. Somebody asked me that question. Would you ask? That question was another black man. Yes listen the blacks fights all time the middle? Lots of everybody was Ali. Frazier and I wasn't alive at the time for that fight to happen if I happened during black history month. That's a moment in black history so yes same damn question because it wasn't just the opponent it was the caliber of opponent like as we move into talking about wild fury. We haven't had two heavyweights undefeated. In their primes. One was a lineal champion. Who was a former unified champion? Never lost ties with the rank and the other was heavy. Wbz heavyweight champion contrast in styles. Like there were so many things that we've never had since maybe bowe-holyfield something that you guys went at it and killed each other in the ring and prior to that it was Ali Frazier one and the parallels between this is wild up doing a piece on this the parallels between Tyson fury's career Mohammed. Ali's career are ridiculous and people are going to what let me explain really quick Tyson. Fury doesn't fight like a heavyweight Muhammad. Ali Doesn't headway both are constantly. Show me who love to talk shit. Who Love to be flamboyant. Ali Entice viewers the same guy. Tyson fury became champion by beating. A Guy who had reigned over division Klitschko with an iron fist was I manhandled loss. Eileen BE SUNNY LISTEN. Nobody thought he could beat to become the champion. Both men this way differ took three years away from the sport. I leave because he does. The draft tastes really 'cause like cocaine but they took three years away from the sport came back both had to tuna fight both of them before they fought the most feared puncher in the heavyweight division. Ali Frazier Tyson fury with deontay wilder. Both of them had very close fight. Both of them went down in the last round. Ali Frazier in the Fifteenth Round With Frazier. Call the left took Tyson. Fury went down with Johnson combination in the twelfth round with where they differ. Is that frazier beat? Ali Tyson fury at the time denouncing welder in the rematch both Ali Tyson fury. One in his crazy how close these parallels are. That's ridiculous so why is the water fighting this man of black history month? Why would that not be a moment in black history? Yeah I mean. It's as much as when Ali lost right. It would have been like that if he could be in Tyson fury but now we see Tyson fury. We'll get into the nuts and bolts of the fight but Tyson fury is the winner and we see that okay just adds a layer of a story to something. We're GONNA look back forty years from that forty years from now when when there's an hour long special on ESPN classics about this trilogy. Your your question will be in their. How wild is that Shit like? I was just digging through the Ali ones because it was Ali's birthday not too long ago and watching we have so much content on Ali. You know top rank etc and you you wash these things and you see these interviews. You see these questions. You see the response they get and you generated a question where gave so much. I don't know such an impassioned response. Tyson fury so when they're talking and they have shit probably mean you sitting down in front of the camera reminiscing about the fight and we'd be like you know what this is a battle between two of the best heavyweights and unlike the heavyweight heavyweight contest before it wasn't about race Tyson. Fury made sure it was about two of the best mate and then boom. They will play your question in the clip. And then we're going to roll into it so like that is crazy. But that's historic and the BUZZER created. Now is only going to push that further throughout the years. So yeah we'll be here forty to talk about that Shit and we'll laugh about it like remember how bad the focus were and they stilling tell you who was mad until you found out. I probably won't get the opportunity to ask a question again. That's probably going to be the longest shortest it but come on man like if you got if you really have a problem with what I said anybody they talk to me. Don't tweet me from account like ask me and like Peter. Kann like a lot of the people that live the white people immediately. They talked to me about it. The only person that asked me Mccoy who mazes guys like cow. He's been the boxing you forever. He's a brother Jesse question and I told them why he's like okay. I gave us like really here and I just heard people were mad at you and I was like Ooh and he was just like people like UK British man showing these. He's like. Don't worry about it but I want to ask you do if you ask me. I'm going to tell you I asked question but I didn't even think of these. That must explaining from the beginning but again we are so that was a beginning of your eventful week and then the week plays out and we get to fight night and we meet up at the fight. We're chilling. I've done a lot of my prep work. You get there you put your bag down to a little bit of work and we decided you know what let's go. Check out the urban leader. And he's seen like in fuck. We got like an hour. Let's let's just go take a lap around the MGM which we do all the time randomly so cool so we the fight. There's like some undercard fight going on where I'm like. I'm not gathering content from this. Let's go so we decided to take a lap. Andrey it is official. Irvine loitering was back. I felt like it was mayweather weekend again and this February. It's not even hot. That's Oh the funniest thing we saw probably was the cougar squad. Yeah Oh they were at least fifty five dress like they were twenty five. There was one that looked like fifty five year old. Megan the stallion like she just had crazy. Cheetah print. Just cut all in the middle. Try to have the boobs out. She looked like she was about six five. It was it was wild. Like shoot but she thought she was the Shit and you know what power to her. There is no age on fatness at all. I promise you that her thing was like come. Get this young man like I. I just know that that was her whole week. That was her gimmick for the entire. Come get this working man. Oh she was trying to catch them catch some late in the game. That was our hail Mary she was like. Yeah I only only got so many more of these left in me. Let me throw this freak of just ought to see what I get big ones some shots at night. It was a cruel evil. It's not even like she was Dolo. There's like four of the whole. They're rolling deep like they've been doing this ship for years like they wouldn't let that back like the Tyson fights what you talk about like Yo. I used to go the Lavi Dir. The Tyson's fights with your younger she was in the MGM. Lavi during those tights and fights same dress. She liked what she she went to the Tyson. Fight in ninety two with that. Same Dressler. She went home. She put this ship closet. I'm where this at the next best heavyweight fight. She had to wait three decades for that shit when the closet was like old friend and she just dusted that shit off. Put it right back on. She's the weight aware that fit. Because they were Larry. We saw three people get arrested. One do press credential you know. Let's let's listen like you have never been so big fight and maybe you've been to a fight like whenever say you live in which may not be Vegas or New York and I actually. I'll take L. A. Off The list because only New York in Vegas and clearly vegas is the top dog when it comes to these fight nights. If you've never experienced one put it on your book this and if it's going to be on your bucket list I don't this may sound certainly Misha's black fighter in the main event because specifically because like a pack your fight brings a different group. People out it's not. The same kind of urban loitering is loitering Mexicans mixed when when can notify? It's fun. Don't get me wrong. Come to those two when it's like mayweather and now like deontay wilder brings out a whole different group ignorance and it. It's likely you'll be scared. No this sheet is fun because it's like it's like Diet Freaknik and like the source awards all that one because you've got a bunch of people who don't know how to act because Vegas doesn't necessarily have like a huge black contingency so when we get something we don't know what to do within like NBA. All Star weekend with like. We tore the city down. 'cause we didn't know what the Hell we're doing like there was a cloud of smoke in the twenty four hours a day but this was like they hadn't had any so long. So you had like like all dues pimp hats and you had like change and then you had like and then obviously you know the younger generation like with the young white dues ad hoc Assan drunk off the ads trying to fight you. We almost like a destroyed right outside the place. Y- do got choked. Guy Just put put his hand on his throat but the guy had mad reach but yeah the the white dude in the in the premium pauper. Suit was seven to this black dude in a tracksuit suit and the black guy was like what the white dude like shoved his check or whatever and then the black guy felt it was his his duty to defend his woman and then the Baiju got up and he he did the Tyson fury point over the banister like he was talking. Show the other NOCCO fight and then he he went around the rail and I was like Oh shit is about to go down. And then why do like started touching him slamming his arms and she hit the Black Guy. Just choke them real soft though. Just choke the lead knows. Hand was there and they just looked at it was like are they gonna fight and then boom just walk their separate ways then and listen. Listen this is why you listen to this podcast because there's no other boxing podcasts and embraces this kind of chaos except for us. Because we don't leave when that should happen. It's like if people start running iron. That's acting anything but when it's like when I see like drunk people getting ready to fight like we were sitting there with like the proper twelve and we you know we just looked and we've spectators and I was like and you know we. We could talk about this because I'm a part of this culture and I and I love you. I embrace the chaos in that sense like I'm like Oh this is excellent. I grew up like in Vegas and I went to Morehouse and I've done. I've done all these things. I enjoy the chaos and I'm here to bring it to you so yes we haven't even talked about the fight yet. But these are the moments that matter because everybody's talking about the fight that happened. No one's GonNa tell you what we're telling you in that like us because this is our thing this is what we do is. I mean listen notice like cop last pug meiring. Dan Raphael and Kevin Out. They can't talk about this like we do because they're like Wolfgang Puck and having dinner and shit notice back to that because we were suppose. Go there and it's fucking close Kevin for enjoying the spectacle as well but yes. I only listen you guys. If you guys like recap alleys work he's like the Super Bowl and I love Kevin to death and I say this for good reason because he supported me when I was just a young do getting in the and didn't have the support of others. Kevin like reached out to me immediately and he's always been there and we've been friends through the years and so he got. He hung out with us and watch the chaos he was. It was like me him. Or Mondo you can type rank. And then we had like McKenzie in these folks manager. And we're all sitting there watching this chaos and Kevin's just sitting there enjoying it. And he he's not asking he's just he's just there that's it like he was watching a fight damn near thought he was going to just pull out his pen start taking notes and I loved him like we need a post fight opposed pizza. Fight article from Kevin. I only breaking down word for word the VAT is. He's about to pull quotes. Get out the tape recorder. They yes flashing on the table gets a post fight quotes then that was funny that and add to it like yeah like the urban loitering is at its zenith when you have a crazy popular bat black athlete right so mayweather and maybe devante will become. That guy is well Deontay. Wilder urban loitering is amazing on those fights what takes it to another notch is when the UK fans joined the urban loiter. Yes yes like the perfect combination. Mayweather McGregor perfect combination of fans. And I wasn't there for me whether had heard that shit was amazing. And then you get this here while they're fury the UK fan singing chanting. You know how many girls we ended up. Seeing from two o'clock to four o'clock. They had no shoes on. And it's not like you walk them from the club and you carrying any heels in your hand and you're walking through which is bad enough they I don't even know how they get the black off their feet at that point but when I say had no shoes on fan they had no shoes. No shoes in hand no shoes anywhere. They were just barefoot at this point like they were like you know this has been such a fucking wild night and I'm so drunk that I said fuck these heels. I'm leaving them in the club and was walking bare foot through the MGM through the Parking Lot. Which is like basketball BLACKTOP. Gravel to their cars Yo. That shit is crazy. You have left you. I was walking back towards the towards elevators to go up to my room and I'm walking. I got the bottle proper twelve in my hand so people were looking at me. Weird walking up like the magnum bottle. Proper twelve in Chile to do look around being idiot looking at other stuff and I stop and that little bar right by the elevators were opened and it was the craziest. Shit I've ever seen because there was a girl who had every fake body parts could possibly have and lips included white girl long extensions whatever crazy skimpy dress. There was her friend who kind of looked like meagan good and fake hair and everything cool sitting there both had drinks hand. I'm walking by. They look at my bottle proper whiskey. I'm like listen. I'll go enough to bring this to my wife. Don't what don't look at me. I'm the wrong one. They look look at my credential. They look at me. I swear I kid you not the one that looks like making good looks at a friend. Shakes her head. Kind of like gives the hair whip. I'm like what the Fuck is wrong with this woman. Why she does mean Mug me. The wife ran look and I see it like why she meemaw. GimMe this guy is coming towards me. The flyest old guy I've ever seen in my life. Old White Guy has to be like sixty seventy years. Old Sue looks like Tyson fury in the suit. Six three walk. You Pass me looks at says you drinking that I was again. Almost gone is like that proper stuff. Like yeah as like cheers makes me open it. We clink. He has the drinking and we think that they is like. I'M GONNA go pay those women right now. It's going to be a fun night and walks off. I'll just see I got my pizza box. What head the open bottle of proper whiskey? Fuck it I gotta drink to that and it goes back and he walked right up to those women and I guess. They shook their head at me because their scouting like you know he got money away. He got a bottle in his hand. Now he got a credential this fuck working like they looked at me like you know got dough like she she. I've only crazy and this guy was like. Hey Young Fella drink you only got this money right now. I'm GonNa go have fun and sure enough. I did the double take I look back. He sitting there both are one arm over one arm under over the other and the goal. Sheehan like he was trying to your. What's your. What's your fight purse? Which your fight purse. He was about to make a nice little matchup. He's getting his Eddie. Hearn OH my goodness. This guy is a promoter. Not In the boxing world but of other occupations This is Mark Boggling. I was like yeah. That's that's how I end my week. Perfect perfect and I was like this fly seventy year old dudes wherever he is in the MGM. This morning hats off to you sir. Hope you had a blast. I hope they rob you. Put your money in the safe. That's a little different topic. Oh Man Yeah. So that's that's fight week in a nutshell Let's talk about the actual fight to do so. Fight night we start off earlier in the week and we touched on it those pushing at the press conference. They said no face to face at the weigh INS so builds up these different narrative going into the fight. We're concerned by some other things that we saw and heard though Tyson fury was like he's coming in to seventy came in at two seventy three US doing a lot to put on that wait. I'll just say that he wanted to be to seventy so much that he was gonna get there. No matter what so use. You wanted to have that bulk. He wanted to eat more than one would normally probably in a training camp. You Know He. He was doing things to bulk up but he looked good. He looked muscular while doing it when it was time to weigh in. But he didn't take your shirt off that worried a lot of people on a other. Deontay wilder came at two thirty. Which you know. He's been there before but we were so used to seeing him to twelve to fifteen and I really didn't think too much of it as we get into the fight. I think maybe that was more of a glaring issue. Then fury coming over we. Yes possible man. I mean for me for my in from the beginning when met with Tyson on Monday and the conversation that we had when I first talked about weight and I said is the weight gain for you to absorb punches or is it for you to start leaning on data and thing he said you know because I thought it was blowing smoke listening. I believe you really come in to things like no. He's like I'm a fat boy so for me to come down and wait is difficult. Certain point when you get more muscle and you turn the fat into muscle and then you can use it to absorb plexus now my head and I mentioned this to you on fight night. The the fat doesn't cover your Chin and no matter how big you get. The Chen is still going to be suspect. But his thing was he wanted to be able to come forward and use his size to smother the answer because he's clearly the bigger man. I just didn't necessarily think it would work but as I wrote early in the week this was in my head. I had no idea what's going to happen is fight. Say because I was like well. You got to be perfect thirty six minutes. I don't know if you can keep that up. For twelve rounds without getting caught up it could be onsite clearly. I was wrong But yeah the weight thing and then the the way in day the shirt. I didn't like that obviously changing trainers from Ben Davidson the sugarhill. I was like a lot of things here. Deonte was like that's nervous energy and I was just like Kinda agreed. I listen man. I was wrong. Mike Tyson knew exactly what he was doing from the beginning and the thing that got me is after the first fight. I think we talked about it on this show and I know I wrote about his well after the first fight. I said fury is going to have a much easier time. We wild in the second time around directly after the first fight I said that because he spent twelve rounds with him. He's GonNa make adjustments and he's going to win the fight the where I got hoodwinked and bamboozled was me watching the onset wilder. Kill two men along the way and I was like what he just murdered. Two men I'm going to pick our bodies on his resume and Tyson had the fight with him and he had to fight with Schwartz and I was like I didn't see much improvement. Wildest killing people but little did I know the Tyson was just getting his conditioning and getting himself ready food. The ultimate fight and everything that he said came to fruition and he beat the Shit. Outta deontay wilder no dominant to a point where I was just in all so. I'm watching the fight and it's happening right in front of me. So it's it's one of those weird things we watch. Mma fights pretty close like as media were very close to the octagon. There's only like three rows Boxing this fight excluded because for some reason they built risers and put you guys dumb. Far It was like the inside can notify. They didn't put any media ringside they put all of us in the risers which is fine because at least in the rise and we could see the ring but yet never really that far back anyway you know so you you guys are ways back but usually about four rose five rows back. On the floor. I'm now getting used to seeing fights from ringside from the Apron and this shit is wild. Every time I was talking to my dad earlier today like how I was like. It's crazy because I could only get closer if I allow someone to punch me in the face like I would have to be a fighter. That's the only way I can get closer than where I am to the action. And it's like being watching like the Patriots in the Super Bowl or watching your niners and a super bowl and you love the game all your life and then them saying you know what dre you gotTa ride about this or you gotta do your normal work. But we're going to put you right behind. Tom Brady or right behind. Garoppolo at center and then see what your perspective is. And they're going to be moving. They're not gonNA touch you but that's just going to happen right in front. It's wild to see and these guys were just so big. It was different when I was there with. Teo Fee and watching Crawford and everything. 'cause they look like normal size people drink very small in real life but look like normal size people when fighting in the ring. These guys look like two giants fighting and it should just. I felt it was hard. I didn't have to score the fight which was great but watching how it played out. You see the smallest of things like you'll see the anti wildest chest after the second round before even hitting the ear his chest and the way he was breathing. You're like it's not right like you can see whoever and see his mouth. Ob you could see the separation between his bottom lip in his mouth piece. Which allowed for Tyson fury buses lip like it was super easy. Why was it super easy? Because he wasn't closing his mouth there was no there was no biting down on the mouthpiece nothing. He couldn't breathe out his nose. The males breathing out of his mouth entire time. And you see this then. His fight has LIPKA's busted open. And you know why against subtle things you could see being that close at. Shit is crazy and when you when I was watching the house like he's not GonNa make the power won't be there in the. What was it last time tonight? In the twelfth round his gas tank was gone after two. And then you throw in getting hidden ear enticing fear I feel like more than anything. Tyson fury gained that weight to lean on him to try to bully him but then he found out. You'll listen. It doesn't matter what weight I am. He's gassing himself out and he knew that wasn't the version of deontay wilder who fought the first time he knew this wasn't the best the onto wilder and he said I'm putting the pedal to the metal. He's not going to hurt me today because he took a couple right hands flush and was like wait. I'm still standing in the second round. He got hit with two thirty got hit with one measured up left hand on the Chin right hand. Following boom usually puts everyone out. Tyson guy. Hit looked around like Yoho. I didn't even go down. And at that moment. He knew I'm good. Wilder wasn't the same. You may say you made it very interesting point and I hate to harp on this but this for whatever reason immediately ethic ooh maybe midway through the second round I remember tear into Eilly Raphael innocent. Some may right. And that's something we say. Something's wrong and this is not to take away from. Tyson fury to clean no off nights but it felt like something was off it. Just maybe wasn't his Knights but even the jab felt slow he was doing the Jab Jab bodies. I Floyd does a lot yup any which I like. I like that game playing chain. Yes I like I said it I say thank you. But he's leaving it out there for a long time and it doesn't have that whip like snap to and I'm like what something's wrong. Something's just not right about. Yeah no twitch fast twitch it. I don't know like I heard this doesn't mean anything because he hasn't used as an excuse me. It was like fighting. You know like a flu or something like that early in the week but he was allegedly sick during the first fight. So the restaurant. I don't know but it just felt like something wasn't right now. I WanNa Pref- is all of this before he's like talking about ring inches and everything else is boxing. Once again is the one sport we nobody knows shit but after a big fight everybody has all the answers that wash the got exposed A bomb he didn't train for this fight. Like I've heard the most asinine things from people that I know have not watched enough boxing that have come out of the woodworks to tell me that the bom and he was never good in the first place. No you don't get that kind of record being a bum. You don't almost massacre Tyson during the first bite by being a bump. He's one-dimensional fighting. Let's just cut to the chase. When this white happened. People said Johnson while to got exposed. I hate when people say fighters got exposed when they lose one fight. I use my example. Eighty five bears were team that you do exactly what the fuck they were doing. Every Down Walter. Payton was getting the ball in on the defense. They were crushing. You with their Li- like you knew what the game plan was. It was your job to stop it. Nobody could stop it. The dolphins diddy in one of the weirdest games I saw much later because I was a kid. I did not watch it but I started with. I used to obsess over like eighty six giants. Eighty-five bears I used to watch all these games. This particular game. The bears doing the deed but like Dan Marino was on fire and balls. Ricocheting off a players. I think there was like a Mark Clayton. Ricochets Mark Clayton. Kershaw ran for a touchdown. They ended up blowing up the bears. I think they beat them. Thirty eight twenty seven. I think the game was and you know I think the talk after Mike. Singleton was talking about like everything just kind of went their way. There was nothing we could do about it. The bears didn't expose you know what the bears there. They went back to. Exactly what they did. Nobody CA stop it. They shut out two teams in the playoffs and the massacre the Patriots in Super Bowl. That's not getting exposed. Shit happens and the term exposed with that you basically have the cheat code to know how to beat somebody and you can give it to somebody else. They can do the same shit. Tyson fury 6-foot-9. Nearly three hundred pounds moves like a welterweight has a boxing skills that are better than most people have ever seen in their lifetime. An Ironclad Shannon. A huge boxing. I Q you can't give that shift to Andy Ruiz and Andy. Ruiz does the same thing that you can't give that shift to Anthony Joshua Anthony. Joshua does the same thing. Drc water because he doesn't have the Chin defense so for people to say that while you got exposed go ahead and put the rest of the division in front of Wilder and watch. What happens because that Game Plan? You can expose something. That's been laid out in plain sight for his entire career. It's not like you never knew that the right hand was there. It was just your job to avoid it like the eighty five bears gonNA run the ball down your throat. It was your job to stay away from deontay wilder right hand. Luis Ortiz did for six and a half rounds and then the lights went off. Dominic Brazil tried it for like two minutes thirty two seconds and then he died. Everybody else's stood in front of water. You know what I'm doing. Okay and then. All of a sudden boom lights go out. There was no need for a plan. B You see like the Ottawa as you can see. You can't turn this man in the Floyd Mayweather. People get a new trainer which may be true. We'll talk about in a second. But this who he is and who he is has demolished an entire division except for one man who was a generational talent. How dare you guys say this man got exposed? He lost if he loses every fight. Like this moving forward then gets exposed. That's that's fair. If everybody comes in and use the same game plan beats the wilder. Then I'll say yet. Thais fear expose them but I don't think any other heavyweight on this planet right now can say wilder. That's not getting spos- that's just getting beat by the better man. And just got his ass kicked and people say I don't want to see the remastered might be exactly the same. Maybe maybe not because the problem is dancing while still has won the greatest equalizers in all of sports with that right hand who knows he could catch Tyson fury in the rematch. And say y'all go by y'all y'all just sitting there just being an NFL news right now. Because if I just happened yesterday but as soon as they announced his shit and beyond and somebody says Johnson was tonight. But it's going to be on this time you're GONNA buy the fucking pay per view so stop missed. Call this man expose man like start treating them like a bums its substance. He didn't train. I know deontay trained. This was a floyd mayweather vs McGregor. The honestly trained is ask. Why do you have a plan B? Because I'm on the fuck has needed one at all. He just he hasn't needed one in some guys just clearly they don't have that. That floyd mayweather gear. And I always use floyd. Andre Ward has gear where he fights and basically he's his own corner man as a fight is going. He downloads information. Computer Floyd does it. Aero does it does it. Did it Entice affair. He doesn't. He makes his adjustments on the fly. And that's what he did. Nobody got exposed guys. Cut The fuck out. Yeah he can out think anyone in the heavyweight division so before you put any physical skills into this. He is ring. I Q the smartest boxer in the heavyweight division. So he's going to solve that puzzle and this showed me physically only thing I thought was okay. He wants to go in there and slug with deontay wilder. He dissected the information from the first fight said I fought my perfect fight as defensive fighter. And it got me your draw. That's not the way to beat this man if I do that again. I'm going to get a draw or beat or knocked out said. How do you beat him then? Went to the drawing board. I gotTA get bigger. I got a pressure him. I gotta take the fight to him and if you knocked me out that way then shit. He's good but if not I believe that this is the way to beat him and I thought you know what it makes sense mentally. He's very smart. I don't know physically if he could fight that fight. Well question answered physically. He could be the best defensive fighter. What best defensive heavyweight we've seen of this generation. Oh and by the way if he wants to stand in bang he can so he can do what he did against Klitschko and run around the ring and get like four punches around and beecher asked or if he chooses to he kim game about fifteen pounds of sit there and bang which you and say you know what we're GONNA have a slug fest and I can win that way too. That's pretty damn impressive again. Man I don't. I've never seen a heavyweight with these tools and the career is over so it's hard to start ranking him among the great heavyweights because what this fight was was. It was one way traffic. And we don't know like rematch could be different Fury could Anthony Joshua and he could lose. We have no idea but right. Now we're looking at a generational talent. We've never seen a guy. This is move like this ever. This is nuts. The things that he does are pretty incredible and he joked about it. Yes so much with Fatman with pillow phys. You put like three hundred pounds. And she's going to hurt period and throw a punch and that's what types of does he he so he's really really really good and like somebody a hit me on facebook Links Lewis and Mike. Tyson beat the shit out is very sure about that. I you Sir because I think again when we always talk about like old fighters old basketball players like everybody watches highlights and like like people say Labor was trashy get Washington lead today. You sure about that. Did you ever really watch Larry Bird play? 'cause they were chuck it three point if Labor play for the fucking rocket average. Like fifty points a game. He wouldn't you would. Annihilate teams was a stretch bird would stretch five right now like he wouldn't be murdering people. What's but there's people say Larry Bird's way and same thing when people say that Mike Tyson in will I beat up Tyson fury and I'm like well listen guys? Mike Tyson's prime years like Mike. Tyson did that ship sailed by the time he was like twenty five. It was over. The run was short brutal and it ended so quick and Mike was never really the same again he beat Frank Bruno twice that war with razor Ruddick And guys like I'm talking about this. Watch all this. I don't talk about is I watch highlights. I have like all the Tyson's fights all holyfield's fights. I have watched every single one of them that I could. There are a few that you can't find but I've seen Tyson fury fight and this says his footwork is wet and I'm like you don't watch boxing. Could you possibly fury's fillmore? Because I've never seen a heavyweight move like this. The older famous are incredible. By the way the only heavyweight D- I could think of that. I mean 'cause it was Ali was amazing. It's upper body. Movie was fantastic. Jab was incredible. I'll never went to the body. Goes Tapes Alley? Never hit anybody in the body. And he's still everybody when James. Toney moved up to heavyweight but he was a fucking middleweight when he started his career and he was a brilliant light counterpuncher he catches shoot like he was phenomenal. But they're very few defensive boxers in the history of the heavyweight division that can move like theory they can avoid punishment like fury that have Chin like fury. Come on guys. You think. I'm not saying that. Might Point five nine types of you would have got them foot on them. You think very would know how to work with that yellow wild. Let's listen glass jaw. I'll McCall put his ass out. I've seen rotman put his ass out. I I'm not. I'm not saying that Lennox would definitely lose. But don't let Mike Tyson. Fury has no chance in this fight. That man is amazing. I say that to say this. That people are saying. Waller's sucks is a bomb. He just fought arguably one of the greatest heavyweights we've ever seen and lost the first time you damn near one and you know I am tired tired tired just like I'm tired and Bass Walton time. A few will saying this person cannot be the greatest all time because they've lost NBA finals. Just because Jordan has never know what what is one of these day. Someone's going to be better enjoyed it and they might lose one finals but they may win seven so you know what kick that shouldn't ask it that whole rhetoric. Outta here because you know what sometimes people lose. That's okay wild could lose hit the immediate rematch comeback. Knock very out in three rounds. Get THAT BILL BACK. And then what yeah now? Is he any less great? That everybody's back on the hype train right then. This is one of the greatest trilogies we've seen in boxing history. We saw I. I wish I really don't wish it would have been interesting to see what would have been when there's like sugar Ray Leonard. Vers Roberto Duran. Like what would it be? Settled social media. Then get imagine. Twitter with that. Sheet lender would have been trash. Yeah we I lost it the rand. Yeah because nobody was being durant at one thirty so yeah when when Leonard I also durant was I mean do I have to say this? Mohammed recognizes the greatest fighter of all time by a lot of people and for most people. Maybe Sugary Robson. Sugar in seventeen fights right via seventy five today. People would kill him but he also fought like one hundred nine times which is insane. Mom Elite was called washed up at least three to four times in his career. Because we came back and lost to frazier the first time. They said he came back too soon. He was ready to fight like nine fights and then before he fought fraser again. He Lost Ken Norton and we lost Ken Norton and got his job broke in the first round. Which IS INSANE. And he fought tire fight with a broken. It's not cold become tonight becoming because he didn't fight entire fighting the broken jaw Mohammed. Ali Did and he stayed in that fight but then we lost people like he's done and you went out there and frazier. Then he bought five forming and they said Oh he can't be formed for him just beat the shit out of frazier can't be forman. He's washed up. He's a bum. And what did he do? He beat George Foreman. Imagine social media at all these moments in Mohammed Ali's career when he lost Kim Norton when he lost a Fraser And when he was getting ready to fight forming imagine social media women like 'cause still be relaxed with pulling the trigger thinking. You know everything after one fame. It's nuts now. That's exactly what it is. It's just it's this microwave culture which we talk about and hip hop and everything else. It's just ridiculous. If the man comes out and gets a highlight reel NOCCO. Everyone's back on the bandwagon. People lose in boxing. Just goes flowing. Never lost doesn't mean it's agreed to have an L. on your record so what people love many pack you up to this day. He got memed with Simba over his lifeless body but the Mug is still be sold. The biggest pay per view ever between him in May after being laid out. So it's like chill calm down should happens like for any reason. Wilder was to say you know what fury about taking my rematch. Whatever keep it? Movin wilder fights. Whoever he fights may become come back next year Orlands Anthony Joshua fight for those belts NOCCO. Joshua wilder immediately becomes a hero again. People say we need the trilogy for the fury fight. We needed while there's GonNa beat them. This time like boxing fans especially boxing. Nba Fans because of those two guys Jordan mayweather or just so fickle any losses to end the world lost to Timothy Bradley. We know he lose. He Lost Bounce Back. Just fine like chill-out people need to calm down a little bit before we talk about. What's next in which I guess we'll do that here? In a second. What was your thoughts on the entrances by both guys? We kind of skipped over that. Let's just throw that in while we're talking about the fight itself. Obviously I love de Smoke. I'm a big fan too because I knew he was coming out. I couldn't wait to see what he did. He did like habits. I thought it was great wilder shifty war the dark knight or like there was so many things going through my head was like super shredder. Power Ranger like to me. It was still dope with red around the eyes. I think but I will say Tyson. Fury's entrance fucking amazing like phenomenal right this again. This guy is the consummate showman and now he's already tried to Santa pro wrestling so we Ghezzi like he just completely gets it. I think somebody said on social media which would do this and you're right because this is what makes it fun like hip being carried out and then on and he's dancing like man you look at that and you're like and if you're fighting him you're like well fuck you taking me seriously. Because he's so comfortable. What my as you can do something like this. I thought the interest I thought both of the interests and the fact they showed them on. Espn they show. Both of their ring walks was like the best thing that can happen. Boxing needs pageantry. And you know what that means. Everything is pro fucking wrestling. Everything especially Tyson fury's involve both were amazing men Getting to walk out during the entrances with Both guys right behind. The camera was super cool. That's just kind of hectic it's Weird Weird thing having to backpedal for that long recording them and then like feeling the crowd and just it was. It was nuts like the whole fight. Just felt huge and it'll take a while to kind of judge exactly how big it is compared to some other fights we've been to. I don't I don't know why this is so bigger than patio mayweather to me again that that was such a corporate crowd that it wacked the fight itself out. Yeah I mean this. This gave us celebrities. This gave us actual boxers. This guy was real fans that wanted to see. This may have no real fant. No I mean mayweather. Pacquiao was an absolutely insane like atmosphere. Now there's a couple of things that are because your access was different so you saw through different lands. But yeah I mean there were actual boxing fans and you said it earlier in the U. K. Fans just makes you better right. Like may with the pack. Yeah there's a lot of people sitting on their hands because it's a bunch of rich high rules in the arena that night This fight I mean they were singing sweet caroline which. I'm sick and tired of but they sang that to the top of the loans. There's only one fury I mean they were a wild electric bunch and the clothes that they put their kids in and I specifically say kids because these kids were dressed nuts. Why these kids looked ridiculous but it was. I mean it felt big Anisa. I wrote a piece like the whole fight. Had this unpredictability around in the atmosphere was wild like if felt huge. Donald to pay per view. Numbers are going to be but it felt like a big big big fight. I don't know if it's bigger than me because I feel like the Oscars of boxing. I guess that makes sense where a bunch of people are just rich in there whereas these the freak boxing and see some way like this was absolutely trashed which we don't need to talk about but but somebody has to the main event. The pageantry entrances to two personalities. Guys the fact that nobody knew is going to happen whereas we're may with a packet we all kind of knew the May whether it's going to wash them specifies I do and actually one thing before we move onto. What's next thing? Get Out of here. Would you think about the stoppage? Not the stoppage itself but Mark Berlin. Being the one throw in the towel in his head trainer. Jd's one. I think it was smart to protect the fighter so I know wilder like it. Jd's then like it but when you have that rematch clause in there and you recognize again means me being that close to you being in your seat. Second round where like your. He's off he's done. Something's wrong that's that's not peak wild now. Pete Wilder still might lose to Tyson fury but it looks more like the first fight than this fight. Wilder wasn't himself. He was gassed by the third. It was ugly and he got beat up because of it. When you see that no we will save. Our fighter will live to fight another day now. I think if me being media you being media can see that wilder doesn't have it in the second round. He's trainers in their collective. Should also see this and should then around the fourth round when he gets dropped twice so we dropped with the body blow in the fifth. I believe it was and it wasn't even a hard body blow. He just collapses from exhaustion and then he trips another three times because he doesn't even have the energy in his body to throw a punch. You have to talk to each other between rounds or when you know when he gets back you take the stool out of the ring. He's going back in. You have to talk to each other and say oh. If he doesn't show US something more we're gonNA throw it in. There should have been plan. There should be some cohesion. And that's a glaring problem right there when you just do stuff without talking or without game planning. This isn't a good look at four that camp as a whole because it shows that you guys are missing fundamental steps in being successful as coaches in any sport on any level. You gotta all know what you're doing before decision that is made and it wasn't. That was my that was my thing I had no problem with. The Stop is because I felt like it could have happened at any moment in that round. You WanNa even punchers chance especially I mean no. No referee would have is in the back of the head for the fighting on the planet undercard about a week we could go with guy knocked him on the twelfth right after being completely dominated the entire fight. Sometimes you want to give a fighter chance but if you're mark reeling and your J. D.'s. And you see wilder getting beat up and listen The out there. I know it's out there While they didn't bust into your home he didn't break his draw he had cut in his ear. And that was it that there was no other Big injuries you know. People like he was eating been concussed but he'd have a bus of Joan. He had a cut in his ear But if you know what's going on you looking at you and he's like he doesn't look right you throw in the towel you save them for another day. My issue is if I'm say wilder and I'm confused about the stoppage and I go to J. D.'s. Who's my head trainer? Jay Why did you stop the fight? He's like I didn't do it Martin. Then it's like won't you the head trainer? You guys discussed this. Y'All making decisions about my career right or wrong and you're not on the same page and the J. D.'s. At the post fight press conference Kinda through mark under the bus. It was like I would have done it but mark did it. We're going to talk about that later. Really I mean I just don't know how you move forward as a team is a fighter and you can't trust your corner. That's what concerns me the most if I had to move into next plan. I don't know who the fuck someone throw in the towel. Who's in control here? I'm the fighter. I shouldn't have to worry about things like this if jay throws a towel. And he's Ted Train and I go J. through Intel. Save you cou. If the TOWEL COMES IN J. Whitestone tell he said I ain't do it. Mark did it. Why do I don't know I can't trust the corner? There may be changes to have to be made in a may not be Mark Bruin. There may be some I need to come in J. D.'s. Because I mean look man. I'm not saying it's bad trainer but I'm saying that. Jd doesn't bring anything special to the table. Fiancee wilder and there are going to be much. Change that can be made under the tutelage J. D.'s. That's going to take the onset to the next level in the something needs to change. I don't know if the tighter can change his stripes going to have to give it a shot a it's so hard. Deontay is predicated on a lot of loyalty. So what he even move if it's the best move for him. He's not a gypsy right. He's not he's not bouncing around. We heard that all fight Wiki prize himself and no. This is my people. We're going to get ready is what's going to happen. So it's it'll be interesting dynamics. Watch as will does he. And his team decided to take the rematch immediately. The from what I've heard this rematch clauses immediate rematch to summer or you can forego that immediate rematch with the caveat in place already in the terminology that says I will get my rematch in twenty twenty one so I will waive my immediate rematch by in twenty twenty one at some point. We are going to get. I like that second option. A lot better and I said on last week's show Tyson fury of tic- for everyone I said and I maintain this. He Won Gopher Anthony. Joshua 'cause I don't think Anthony Joshua was ever going to fight Dante wilder but I think they're more than willing to fight. Tyson fury yeah. So there's two this one side of your words Nancy Wildest Prize and say I want the rematch. Because he's thirty four years old doesn't all he says he's GonNa fight for five and a half more years. That's what he told me early in the week after this. You probably cut it down to four team. You made your ego may say I want this immediate rematch because yes exercise within thirty days but I think the Eagle has to heal before you make a decision like this and it's a big fight. Obviously any run the risk of losing if you go find someone else but if you're a DNC wider. I think you need time to heal and I think summer's too soon. It's October Aaron October's the other day that they were looking at to do the rematch. It might be too soon. It's only February but may you get beaten like that and it's a lot. I lost you career to immediately jump back in might be kind of hard so I agree with you. I agree with you and I think for me. The best scenario is for the remastered happen. Put all the fucking marbles on the table because of Tyson Fury Anthony Joshua and dude. That fight is huge and it's not like American huge. It's like globally huge because death. Josh was going to fight Cougar. Puma probably June and either Tottenham's Hammer. Wembley which houses like eight thousand people who live. He can literally fight me and FILL THAT BITCH UP IF TYSON. Fury has done what he's done in the states and they can do that at Liege. It is the new Raiders Stadium. Here in Vegas. They can take issue to Wembley they will clean house and then we will finally as long as there's not a draw we will finally have an undisputed champion which is one thing Deonte. Wada's asked for one name when champion? You'll have one so. Then you have the rematches for all the marbles and I think even bigger because if Tyson fury word to be Joshua which is not a foregone conclusion. I don't care what anybody says anything happened. What did he were to beat them? And if you fight for all the marbles in this remax yacht six maybe one tuna fight and beat dealing white or some shit like that and you have this fight wherever say it is arguing. The big is probably one of the. It's going to break a ton of records. Oh shitter record so off the idea as long as I'll see her in this week and I know we're not going to really get a chance to talk about Mikey. Garcia Jesse Vargas Vargas. That's Mike he has no business at one forty seven but he's GonNa win this fight. Whatever almost any this week and I'm going to get his take on. Because he said on social media he wants to fight to happen but I wanNA see seriously is because in order for it to happen. Joshua has to mandatory life and I think UC other mandatory. So you take care of those first and if the if so then you probably test for is probably going to Wi fi some bomb you see the t for me either. Joshua or wild. I think there's only two if otherwise. I don't think he's interested. Yeah I mean fury said he only has two more fights if you ask him so he doesn't have fights to waste no not at all he's been through a lot man trying to be your old time trying to get the shit out of here. I met him either. Yeah I'm not mad at all. And what's guaranteed now is that the money is going to be there. This is always these. Fights are huge. I know that I don't know what the numbers are. And we won't know maybe we'll know by actually but this fight will whatever it is. It's going to do extremely well. Everyone watches shit. Yes so and everyone's talking about it huge success. Now let's make a these across. The street. Fights happen a lot more often. Will they be this big? No but you know what they'll be bigger than just having them fight the same guys. You know promotion over and over and giving Danny Garcia five title shots for no reason when you can literally just have tears Crawford. Fight one of your champions. I'm just saying no. Let's let's meet these things happen so we'll see how that goes man. It's been a long show but had a lot to talk about. We want to thank you guys for listening. We gotTA shout out the sponsors again bet online. Make sure you guys check them out. 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ESPN Take Shots at Top RankHaymon Isnt On Twitter Spence vs Crawford

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ESPN Take Shots at Top RankHaymon Isnt On Twitter Spence vs Crawford

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And we are back to discuss the teleconference call that took place with Amir Khan and Terence Crawford. Some words were exchanged in Rayfield top rank. Going at it. Dan, Rayfield versus top rank. And they went at it. I don't know. We'll bring you all the details and the little Twitter beasts that transpired. And does see if this is a topic that you're interested in if so the number to call in is one four two five five six nine fifty to forty one. You could also add Nestor gives on sky to be part of the conversation. Get this thing going. I would go to my coz, Mr. gross, but he's not back there. So I'll just bring your attention to be tweet that started all this. And I will screen share that of your tune in you come over to YouTube right now on a time stamp. It's couple minutes in and you should be able to see what took place. Now. This is Dan Rayfield ESPN responding responding to. Bob Arum on Twitter. Now. Bob Arum says at Earl spends junior said that he is ready to fight Tarrant Crawford. We already to do that necks once but is successful against a mere Khan on April. Twentieth. So Dan reveal comes back and says Heyman isn't on Twitter. Now, the reason he says Ayman isn't on Twitter. Let me pull up the actual tree. Because I believe Bob goes on to say something like. Hopefully, Al pick up the phone and weird like that. But let me just pull that up. So that nothing is lost in translation and. Get that info out to you. So here we go. We got decorate feels tweet and whereas this last Baburin tweet. During the Knicks. I mean, he is ready to fight Terence Crawford. We are ready to do that Knicks ones. But it's a cesspool against Americano, April twenty is all systems go. Doesn't Bob have another one there. Can't see. I mean, go to Bob's Twitter. Because I swore when where he says something about our, and that's what makes. Dan, come Adam. Let me go to Bob Arum. The Twitter page. What's going on? Everybody didn't TB being universe. How ya doing today? It should Mike. I'm back with another kinda like L Bundy for all right here. We go. So where I finished off on April twenty of the last sentence that I see on my screen Schiff says it's what fight fans want. Al should I call you a will you call me, and he acts premier boxing champions. So Dan Rae feel being very intelligent bright. He's been in his game for so long. He took a shot at Bob and bring because he says Heyman. He says one actually Mike says one because he's running down a list of reasons why Bob Arum's alleged coal out alleged cried to the fans that after this fight. He will do the right thing. And try to make the fight with Terence Crawford and Earl Spencer. Bob Arum, seems to believe that that's bogus. You know because he comes back and he says. One alleman is on Twitter. So fights aren't made on social media. They're made behind closed doors in private if sides actually want to make them three top rank has no opponents for Crawford to fight hence the apparent desperation for Bob knows one two and three. So that is a fucking bullet those nails in the coffin. It's like stop the bullshit. Stop the wishy-washiness in in the public trying to gain fans trying to sway public opinion. If you really wanna make dislike pick up the phone and call out of the way, you've called outta make other fights. Why are you on Twitter house never been on Twitter? There's never even been a sub tweet from our on Twitter. Meaning Mike is never came out. Heyman said XYZ, and quote, none of me. So. Why are you talking to Twitter verse about bud, and Earl if you really want this fight? You know, it is what it is speak. It believe it receives speak. It believe a receiving speaking receive at Nova speaking. Handed baying. Oh, he shot. Miss to stand. No bread one. Look who in the building. Let me check my Instagram. I might be at a meeting. Lose calm. It was going on Northam back here with another one kind of like L Bundy core for touchdowns in one game. She I'm here with FIS one day. So you know, I we do. But. Yeah, man, Dan field tweeted head, and I can find on his page anymore. So maybe deleted Ono, maybe a little solves. But when he saying is I believe have right, right? You know, three probably the most the most the most. The best one. I don't think they're desperate. But there's not a lot of top opponents over on a tub ring, but the other two their debatable. And we'll get to that real quick. I mean, go ahead and get into my synopsis was pretty long let me know how you fill in me and pre production. We felt you were a bit moody moody. Yeah, we don't know we could be overestimating it could just be us teasing you. We know you're the resident Crawford van we could be feeling your vibes and misinterpreting them. Okay. Lift our with number one number one again. L Heyman isn't on Twitter. A direct shot at Bob. Now that is. Accurate, but it couldn't maybe not that accurate. We know PBC is on Twitter, and we know who's in charge of PBC not saying that is sitting there Runa his account. But what I am saying this. You don't think when Bob Arum added PBC somebody's show Heyman that tweet? Like, you said you had your what was your time? Then you get. I'm pretty sure there's somebody around there that works social media, some some new young or maybe not. So you just some tech people that I had around him running this. So what I'm saying this? I'm pretty sure when when that came across their desks, they made sure eight when across al-hams deaths, so so should Alao respond. Hey, Bob, I'm sending you this Email or this phone call since I noticed that you want to make the Earl Spence, but you reached out to me via Twitter, even though, you know, I don't have a Twitter, but you felt that the employees who handle the social media content should relate that message to me. I mean, someone so low on the totem pole some random twenty one year old to twenty nine euro, who's just came out of college for doing social media management is going to have al-hamid. So. Who has a random? Narrow. As your permission. That's what you want us to believe that. I like that climbs up the ladder and gets Hamer maybe not the fucking one who go on a doing PPC account. But I'm pretty sure everybody, maybe maybe whoever gave it to fucking team Smeal pass. The fucking tweet. We'll way ladder. If you say, it doesn't that you're just being fucking delusional? I'm glad that the top rank skanks here on full protection. And now, they want us to believe that fights could be made that the other promoters advisors managers trainers. They need to be watching out. What's being said on Instagram and Twitter? You know, they they can't. They can't expect terms she they can expect a contract. Watch out what? Bob Arum is saying on Twitter because just in case, he says something that, you know, makes seem like he wants to fight, and we don't reply we look like the ducks. All of a sudden yet Alabama's I hit doing meat is. Yeah. Out heyman. Got all the social media accounts. That's why this was a perfect way to communicate with our via social media because Mike says, hey, he's out of the message will get to him. No. Be made of social media. May when that started as a little room social media, man when I wonder what may whether or McGregor ever entertained a puff billion fight each other. Then it got bigger and bigger and bigger until the the two sides had to come together and work something out. Let's go with Joshua wilder. How do I start damn? It was a lot of bud, man. I want see that big guy from USA fight that big gap from Britain know, what to re tweet that way retreat that and guess what? Those guys start negotiating how to fuck. It may. Well, the pet you're happy. Let me ask you. Yes. You should go on because the the key thing that you forgot to point out was that none of those scenarios that you gave valid to this analogy because all of those scenarios everyone. You mentioned has social media everyone. You mentioned has a personality on social media everyone. You mentioned has an account and has used that you cannot your head all you want. Don't cut me off. Everyone has used their accounts prior to those fights prior to may whether McGregor being made McGregor already had six something million. Maybe more sixteen million on Instagram. AJ already had a million. Okay. So that is totally different from Bob Arum. Sub tweeting. Al Hayman, who has no social media big fights, not not not promoters. You said big fights don't get made on social media. I'm not saying, but you do on my own you. I didn't cut you off your preference manure argument incorrectly. You need to argue with Bob Arum. Bob Arum, and Dan Rae few. Okay. Rayfield? Don't feel said big fights. Don't get made on social media Rayfield wave them. Not aiming doesn't have. Do you ever? Yes, I agree that you have to sit in a room and do things privately. So you agree that big fights. Don't get made social media. Absolutely. So we are preface my lands argument with correct was the, you know, because we've never seen a contracts on the social media, my if you wanna premise. One argument that big fights start preliminary negotiations on social media or boxing articles coup. Preliminary people still have to sit down terms she still have to get sent contract. Still have to be seen and advised by contra by bike by lawyers and attorneys. You know, what I mean like, you don't just start on social media and finishing on social media finish on social media that never came out of my mouth. Well, no, no. You can't say that. You fight startled. Social you can't fake name start for media. No they start. But you see you say made media. No, they not not not not not. There's no contract on social media. There's none of that. You know, even may what I'm gonna give you another example of order for something. Let me give you another media having no power in the negotiation rooms for Mayweather, put out a social media post for MIR Konin and Marcus mcdonagh, Amir Khan one. He chose me. Donna social media has no power. And then it goes she -ation room you just grasping because it's your promotion company is being slandered with the. I mean, honestly with the pope, but I'm saying unifies these big fight super face. I don't I house. Maybe maybe I was wrong. Maybe that was super fight back. If you guys thank mckernan in Florida is on the same level of this night is what is you understand? Amir Khan simply use social media to his advantage. He won the pole Floyd tried to say he wasn't popular enough. And then he won the pole employed Floyd the debate and switch you said fuck you. I'm still not fighting you we find Markle's may Donna and for you say, oh is that a big five. Remember Markle's got two fights out of the Amir Khan situation. Markle's got the willy Wonka ticket not Amir Khan Markle's was the one losing Markle's was the one struggling. We'll see the Lopez. Just saying. Better was saying, I do believe fights are made on social media that that's how you get guys. NBA a negotiating room. A lot of fights start on social media, man. And that's how these people start hammering scart start mate same thing. Oh, no. They never made it never made order. Emme may have start brush. Right. But it ain't made it ain't made. That's a broad statement to heaven. How about that may happen? Loose knows to it. Right to take advantage of a good deal. Now, you're ready to dig into spring projects. The first chance you can we do it right to with savings every day. Like twenty percent off. 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So now, you say everybody has a spat on Twitter makes a fight your bucket where the beef come from the interest coming from the retweets coming from promoters. On fight some behind talk. Oh, and talk. I've I've been then but respect when that not cut you on one time. But like I said these fights can definitely start. Also, she meaning can be made on social media if the fans and the public push it harder of that's why Mayweather mcgregor's sat down together make that fight because public with pushing it hard enough and just like Earl squad. And it's not there yet. But getting there once the public star pushing it hard enough on social media and these guys sit down and hammer something out. Yeah. Well, and then we'll be saying the same thing we're saying now it started on social media, but they had to sit down a hammer it out somewhere else. So you theories wrong, and Dan Rayfield this correct? Bob, isn't being honest about his intentions how been on again if you wanna make the fight why? While you tweeting that a fake albumin like Ruma more. Okay. Okay. It's a Larry is the stance as you take you go to great to to protect his green live by somebody who company has a Twitter page that a possibly can make it back to them. How's this farfetched and listened to your words, Michael you're saying that can possibly make it? Ten you know, got back to him, bro. Not well that's negotiations on the fact that just sitting here trying to save it. This is just just so. Just okay. Okay. Yeah. Let's not make fights anymore. Let's just talk about him on. On the field. Oh. Ah Baram who we got his number. Let's not call out who we got his number. Let's just sub tweet or should I call you? Listen. I know why you sub sweet because you ain't got no roster and the long it takes to make legitimate fights the better, it looks for you. I think you had to come back for that. Gosh, it's I've stars on itunes. These calls are brought to you by El Camino electrical services, experts in electric vehicle charging stations for consultations and turnkey installation. Visit us at El Camino electrical services dot com. Everybody has fucking favoring. So what do? Prolong the fight if you really want to fight. Fuck. Know my. Version. Yoyo? Man down. This is one fight. I hang on to you, man. I getting finally just thought of even talking about this conversation. I I don't mind I don't mind bringing up fence name a promotion 'cause you know, all going to do is create the buzz in in my perfect world. This would happen next by Crawford. I'm invite Baggio. You know, what I mean by the time the fence crossing fight happened that the jail if I can have an July lady, LA there's been fight you can happen. You know, October's. Herman go get the Bill from border. And then whoever I'm gonna say cropper going to put here to bills up against Darmon who built. Wait. Wait, wait. So you're saying that I be oh. And the WBO. That'd be up in the WTO. Yeah. You mean? United fight. He's unify with the Lonnie men's, but I be occas Earl Spencer got the idea. Yeah. That's what I'm saying fences gone cropper going to have IBM if they fight. I got a call in it. There's no way fans. Don't be. Yo I'm gonna tell you right right now. I look at Crawford lake like the little the new jet Li do from the brew brute when movie I forget the name of Romeo like oh. The funniest thing yesterday. We done a show on Earl Spence versus connect- low and most people like either think another whitewashes Earl or Earl B's Cannella. But no one thought that Crawford beats another. But then you guys in the same breath turn around and say Crawford beats I mean, it's the most ridiculous thing in the world. Hitter. I'm no, I'm just trying to find a logic. Like how you saying that started at one thirty five. Why would he find a middleweight Earls rings down to make the fucking wait? How many times have got to say is pretty plain pretty evident. So again, you're saying that he will beat the more skilled in -ccomplish Cannella. But in my opinion is a defiant paint cover has too much skillful. For. Same guy that he said big daddy. Wong? Y'all you'd be wiling. Dominant seattle. Man that was Mike. I know you're to get the talks. Who's this again? Dominic seattle. Man. No. This is stuff. You know? Crawford must listen to the radio. So. But since they went to Mike, and he ignored your question. What's going to go to make? They did not. Dan. But it's not good. Let me give someone call. So spends versa. But don't you know, my biggest fan and shit. Why be might like that? Women much back in the day. So I don't know those corporate, nah, who has decided we got to see what happens when they're kind. And I really think Sean Puerta Schiff I spend. That's it's like that's the call. I Dominic names for calling in going out the Ed were in Alabama. Hey, what's going on? Yeah. Then racial hit right on. Hey, man. This is the same tactic air been pulling like this last you fight the same thing. Eddie hurts. He's trying to create some buzz around his fight. He said Erol stints it it. The why aerospace say it is obvious. If he gets L Hamer's phone number. He could pick up the phone and make the call nobody if ice give made on social media. Why don't we had the wild versus AJ fight? Why haven't we have all the little Twitter? They're constantly having fights yet. If we wouldn't for the quarter beef in the bekker's, four AJ and water, and all the all the hoopla, we probably would've never had negotiation, brother. Come on, man. Look, I wanna tell you. There was negotiations prior to that even started on there. He just became centered around the world when everybody star here about I know you wanted to watch him box at the like a few years, but social doesn't create no fights. We can't name one fight that was create star will people now, you're it promotes the fight. Yes. But no fight gets created also to media created. They want. Coach mcgregor. Mayweather McGregor till they they signed contracts and everything all social media. I on. I didn't say them online the promotion and the hoopla in the start of it started because of social media. That's not the making no fight promotion. Mike. I know you all you on that one. But man, I I've listened to bother and for years I've been watching fights for twenty five years that stuff is wash it. He's just trying to promote that fight 'cause nobody's really paying attention. I mean, I guess at the MIR Khan, whatever nobody like, nobody sees a mere copying. But I I don't see that happening. There's no there's no buzz around this fight. You didn't hear stairs fight in? The first reference is talking about another boxer. He's not even fighting. That's what he's doing. He say aerospace, a west Elston saying it, none of that happened that doesn't happen, man. That's why we don't get. No. Because you think that this little back and forth. Complaining does anything never. 'cause these much Boston thirty year how long do budget when Earle's intense cover little going back and forth, all social media. They're not get as rocking like day wants to fight them. We won't we ready forward. Then it happened. There was a fight. It fight. It has to start. Lead. You. F one party? Time. Okay. Yeah. You're right. Went into not make a fight. What do you call it? He's like. Gen and traditional sense might get like I won't posters should now. Like, you think what your heart in saying that with my here? My nephew. Why here mom did? This is like elementary meeting. All Mike, you say is lamentably, but you don't wanna look at history. So because. Times. Let me make my points. Scuz-? You have a preference, you know, with this fighter you choose into history. Bob Arum has a very very checkered pass. It's documented it's not like he's got the last five years giving us what we want, Mike. You know, he has no resume of a good promoter that things for the fans. He invented the word marination. He's the one that stopped while the fairy like, I don't know what it is. You're saying we're trying to explain to you that this is what he wants. This is how he conducts business. He's not been around for eighty years for no reason, you know, he promoted evil knievel right through Manila all shit like he's been around for ever, bro. He promoted evil can even jump in the Grand Canyon, bro. Like Bob is legendary promoter. This is nothing new all I'm saying is you don't gotta take our budgets. Google search Google search some fights Google search his his quotes like it's nothing new chat. Like you. You gotta think about it like this. If you're going to discredit Eddie, and you want people to believe that everything he says isn't true. So you're saying everything he says is true norm. Not nothing that heating, okay? You can't have the one way on the spectrum or the other way. It can't be like a middle ground everything he says not fucking valid. But everything he says is some some of the things. Motives lie. Absolutely. All right. So then that I'm saying I'm trying to keep them all on the same page. Eddie's. A promoter who lies to promote Bob is a promoter who lies to promote and any other person who's a promoter. So if we know that. What they say should be cheek. You don't think why why is it that if you know promoters, live this particular thing right here, you're like, you know, what I know they lie. I like this about what Bob did. And I'm gonna ride back this even though it's not traditional even though this isn't the traditional way of going about getting a super fight. I'm still gonna I'm gonna ride with this. The eighty year old man wants to finally take the social media and tweet I'm a fuck with it. And I will have a better synopsis at the new year and see fire happens are not known sense the birds that were created a springs to fight this this fall so time if I was judged on my past, and my parents, you know, what I'm saying and people will have a different perspective me too. So all I'm saying this. You can't always judge somebody off to pass people can't change. So basically, you're telling me you give Bob the benefit of the doubt. You're not gonna come into this game and base off his pass. And that's respectable of you. Okay. So you're just one of those guys that you gotta learn on your own. Ooh. That burn my hand on the stove top. No, absolutely. And that's cool. But it's also unfair because your defend in this man at great limps when everyone else's job. But look, look and you like oh that was back. Then that was back, then I just don't get that logic. But all right touch potential sky talk to me. Real quick bigger gun jet regal. And Loma kind of started on for me too. So it's potential Skype. Can you hear me? Yes. Yeah. Well, you say I'm already fed up with some somebody's proposed that just just blowing smoke cutter us just. Oh shit. I gotta stop everybody zoo. Put my face off as put my face as dumb, right? Oh, I'm checking the comments right now. And so my call f o g boxing. Aw. I shouldn't have said his name. Casey, China, cloud cheese. Mike tell Mike I'll fight him in the wheelchair. I'm Joe is said I'm in a wheelchair and he put the YouTube link. I'm check lows knows you'll do it right to take advantage of a good deal. Now, you're ready to dig into spring projects. The first chance you can we do it right to with savings every day. Like twenty percent off. Select Scott's fertilizers one helps prevent weeds now and the other feed your lawn later step up your backyard by adding a new patio and get Holland pavers three for one dollar whatever's on your spring to do list. Do it right for less. Start with Lowe's. Offers valid for three twenty-seven pavers. Offer valid Hawaii letting varies by location. See store for details. US only. Lows knows you'll do it right to take advantage of a good deal. Now see already the dig into spring projects the first chance you can we do it right to with savings every day. Like twenty percent off. Select Scott's fertilizers one helps prevent weeds now and the other feed your lawn later step up your backyard by adding a new patio and get Holland pavers three for one dollar whatever's on your spring to do this. Do it right for less. Start with Lowe's. Offers valid for three twenty-seven pavers offer. Not valid in Hawaii letting varies by location. See store for details. US only. Now, I'm nervous about on the old shape a wheelchair pull ups. Oh shit. Ain't got the reach on. You don't want this work. I want it all want this world squeeze when they go. Oh, no. Oh my God. He they won with the chair might wanna go. Three full doing jail house pull ups now. Now, you don't, but I still but still fucking did six. He went over the ball. He hanging on that ball to edit eight. Oh, what about? Well, more give me one more chip. Jan. I I. He did tension. Him. But he's showing you the strip is there. I'm gonna put the Lincoln in. Fuck. Fuck the champion in the chat chat. I'm gonna let the public see who all the smoke. Believe in receiving chip. You got your fight Fatima. Fatima? But yeah, I'm not worried about a garden jets. And they wanna fight me wanna fight breath. All. Fate of my life. But back to the topic man on our and believe that yo yo to show. That's crazy. I home call in. If you hear my voice, call one four to six, but this is Phil as he finally got called out. He'll look, you know, he got the, but. Shown something good though, be to a good some good tool of much being on the program. Guarantee you I'm going to fuck this guy up period signed him up money on your homes. Don't do that. I ready seen the tape. My arms longest fuck. Listen. The last wheelchair. Do we sent my doing pull ups he had to be on a box this nigga reach so long? He doing pull ups from the chill off the floor might gain stretched in three. Mike's e clubs used to climb up. The rope about using his legs, man. He's is goodness. Well. This is crazy. Texas everybody he called out my. Shoes on foot all this pressure to have. Have they got the smoke? What you see his? Body estimate. Don't even lock on estimating, buddy breath. How do what I can do? I can do. Not put my mind. Say he got a job. Keep playing Mike his arm him up on sonic. Boorda woods. I'm selling. And he called Mike out and Mike was using your house can't use your how no more, Nick. Nick. Link about fifty or. And it sat on won't be no people up north. Now, here's did ten fucking pull up with my anywhere. My nigga. Can you? And ups. Can you see you do temple? He hey, put money. I can't do twenty right now. Did you do twenty twenty right now put money? I gotta check. Put running my, hey me out. Like I said yesterday was today. Follow the hashtag studies. I fuck with our studies. So everybody you heard I gave him credit. But also say he had Jim house pullers. I don't really respect those half extensions. I respect full extensions. Plus he was also doing palms in that's a little easier. That's for the bus set. I do. That's why my back big. And is don't want sign up the fighting. You fill me been doing those all my life. But such pretend we keep cutting you off the head sham. My God is. My saying it's open. That's good, man. But yes, bring down the total. I'm getting my loss nerve man is is is is trying to the public. He's trying to say that you know, any doesn't do to promote these biggest firm when when he's gone coach to the Fultz, and boom, let the rest of the crowds, you know. But he's he's transparency to the game. I hear what you're saying that will promote as a kind of if that was Frank Warren if that was Bob. Eram any? Of somebody's guys believe the better, even but don't really lie. It does put it out there. You know, he just tell you what's going on. It's very refreshing the. Quite quite transparent do about and then you know, we're talking about we'll want super fights and stuff. And and I said it before I'm ready. I mainly disappointed in PVC and the only sleep before I can see happening of it in Wisconsin zone is is poor verses is suspense for me ain't no Superfund because because because it's not super fighter. He's the weakest champion division of give Markey Garcia could've taken. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on hold on. Is the world's away. Why? Is he a two-time welterweight? Danny's two-time welterweight yet. Had a fag. Do me a favor. Tell me who Danny beats to become a two-time while to wait for me for me. Dun, Dun, Dun is a four hundred one four seven he doesn't carry being carried a power the power of one four seven poor even a note to the fuck out. He's a fully he's eating it needs to give back. He's eating it needs to get back down. There doesn't carry that weight. And we will know what Brooke done to to. Pour poor as you know is an average size is a linebacker wherever those positions are out there. So it's not China suspense, the real the real fight for me. An even crew for crew for this up still want to see if he's a proper full seven, you know, he's gonna take card, but a real fight. But a real fight cut. It Brandon Cincinnati would up. Do. Branding. No. Put your face on camera. But you can build up for fighting bulls going through social media sounds like star. No should be. Yeah. That sounds like what I said fights start on social media. It'd be mainly social media manager. Mike you losing all day and come to win. But I'm gonna probably the Mike and the rest of the TV listeners that was the worst book media call ever. Actually, yardage those questions as weak, and you're you're my boy, Mike a chance to question even going to be the only one that each question that. Whether it be because PVC has a bigger fighting stable for Earl and they have more options for aerial. Bottomline. There's obvious that aero and terrace Caulker won't this light showing her Aerosmith PBC? So. No. I don't know if that's true, man. I that you wise. Bob arum. Talking to offend some Al Hayman onto the when he could just pick up the phone. He got his number. He called the for John Malini called them. For Felix de is he called them for many backout, like call them. But I mean, those are easier to mate out him. And I mean, those are fighters if you've spent you giving your beef up to win a title. I mean, you probably gonna get no better does John Molina force. You don't ship them over there to fight. He's still he's still. He's still he's still call them for four pack still call them, then they sat down they met up to do that one. Yeah. That's true. But only do fluid impact made at a basketball game that was clipped on social media. And they went back to hotel night. But that's put this perspective. You got Eddie Hearn span. L Hayman the mill answer is called. He got Eram saying they don't answer to call at. What point do we say? Maybe the two guys telling the truth about Al Haynes, and maybe doesn't wanna do. I mean, I think I think we'll believe Bob when our stops actually answering his calls. I mean AL's done fights with Bob. Why is he now not answering the phone? This doesn't make sense to me. And think about it the economics make sense no-one's duck in a one point something, a at least a million, plus pay per view fight. This is a million URL doing four forty all bug. Gotta do is come in. And then that three four hundred range, and we golden we golden. So I don't know what you're saying economics is did when the fights make sense, they make sense these fights make sense right now, the issue is going to be who. And where do we do it? Is it FOX is this show time as the ESPN right now ESPN has to really step it up because guess what spends four hundred and forty on fight. So they are ready used their big house. It's not like they're going to say, oh, here's a offer from Showtime. But if you don't like it, we could still put together another offer from FOX, which we don't have any analytics to back. No, they don't they don't pay per view on their big network, which is FOX. So now ESPN is doing on their big network, which is ESPN. Let's see. Let's see. But the economics are there, bro. I believe that the economics are there. Boxing is hot right now. I follow Google trends. You guys should to obviously follow. The key words that I care about which are pox ING and every time there's a big fight. This shit is up like a hundred. Hundred and thirty four percent. Eighty percent one twenty percent like it's never like up. Ten percent. Twenty percent sixty percent nothing like that. And Bobby Moore of private business is not always come private because that was the case, then we won't know their water's wants fifty. We wouldn't know that they improve we wouldn't know that sixty forty. We wouldn't know all these things that up the fight because of the rematch called we wouldn't know any of these things so probably business. It's not always cut probably busy. Sometimes it's put on public display. For sure. So there was a message here. Stop reaching Ness, Spence in Mikey did four hundred plus stop it. What I said for forty like, that's that's what Michael carpenter who fucking works for Fox Sports is reporting. They're leaking info him can that info be tainted year? But then when Crawford in conflict say that that info was tainted when Dan reports what it made to you know, what I'm saying because Dan works for ESPN. So let's stop with the bullshit, man. We got all Landau talk to me. Orlando. What's going on? I agree with this started on social media, but they don't get made on social media. But what I cringe is yesterday show 'em resulting people who called me and said Spencer's gonna be Cannella. But now people call in now, I said carpet beat set, Spence. I don't want to say how that makes sense if Cannella he's being quoted, I don't understand like, that's what makes no sense to me. It's not like you're trying to do mayor. So you think canal is bigger, and you more skilled. Then fence. So the most good across corporate might be might be more skilled holder. Doesn't matter didn't show you decide the matter. Would you would you can can I ask you a question would you pick floor? Let me talk. I got you. I got a great question for you. Would you pick fluid to beat triple g and one sixty? His floyd. Not now why did someone like before? Yeah. But that's doesn't eat like four thirty. Crawford ain't floor because then David Benham Vitas ain't nobody Floyd. Super great. I'm gonna get. I'm not I'm not down the CoR corporate. He's great for him being him from when point not for my. Yeah, we'll pick for the civil team 'cause. I was able to meet up, and you could be successful even because you don't get. Hey, but quotas gonna get touched like that's gonna have. Could it tough fiber? Forget hard, though, f y I I don't know if carpenter gave up his ring job. But yes, he used to work for the ring. He also used to work for USA today or USA daily news. Now, he works for Fox Sports. He's one of their on air television analysts or commentators, whatever you wanna call them going out the Gary in Texas. We finally got the me, Gary, Gary, Gary Gary to any act like Gary from the I'm Joe, you guy from Texas, Mike, I had to go as far as say, oh, are you like, Gary the edits the website? You didn't have that. Same energy sub Gary. I came up to you. And I said what up? What'd you want me to be like in the dance? Hell, yeah. I wanted to know that it's fucking Gary from fucking Texas. I had to get those knows to it right to take advantage of a good deal. Now see already that dig into spring projects. The first chance you can we do it right to with savings every day. Like twenty percent off. Select Scott's fertilizers one helps prevent weeds now and the other feature lawn later step up your backyard by adding a new patio and get Holland pavers three for one dollar whatever's on your spring to list, do it right for less. Start with Lowe's. Offers valid for three twenty seven pavers offer valid into Weiss let's varies by location. See store for details. US only. Lows knows you do it right to take advantage of a good deal. Now see already to dig into spring projects the first chance you can we do it right to with savings every day. Like twenty percent off. Select Scott's fertilizers one helps prevent weeds now and the other feature lawn later step of your backyard by adding a new patio and get Holland pavers three for one dollar whatever's on your spring to do list. Do it right for less. Start with Lowe's. Offers valid for three twenty-seven pavers offer. Valid in Hawaii. Let's varies by location. See store for details. US only. Guy hug. Mike was so awkward. I'm like, Brad. We're talking for eight years on the fucking phone. He's like, hi, I'm Gary. It's like, Gary whom the fucking. Baby. Going on gear long time though. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm trying to understand it. So you're saying. If I said that Crawford could be. Corporate could be spent that means you can be canal to or what's the triangle thing, you have conflict can be spent then there's no way Spence can be Cannetto. No, I'm saying Michael gross is saying that, Spence. And I'm saying damn champ. If you think spends beats. Canal said it'd be a fifty eight tomorrow. Works right in Cannella than how to hang on be Crawford. Because it's not right, right. So we ask you this do a billion these. Two main Taylor b but aren't Hawkins. I don't care what decision to James Jemaine Taylor. People. Don't have guns. No. Okay. Did Kelly Pavlik remain Taylor. Yes. So Kelly Pavlik pizza maintain debate hell hockey, Kelly Pavlik beat. No round, right. Okay. The coat Pete Mosely. Yes. Margarito p Koto. Yes. Logorrhoea ugly. No got Neilly. Right. So you can't it doesn't work that way. It doesn't this guy that guy he'd be this? It doesn't work that one thousand fight. I don't think even be know. But you can't because spends could be canal. That's what he can be Crawford corporate doesn't play anything like, you know. Well, I'm not saying if spends beats canal, oh, he beats Crawford. I'm arguing with Mike, and I get your logic. And you're saying triangle theories don't exist. But I'm still saying what most us in. How has Mike gut Spence in a tight fight with Cannella but getting washed by Terrence? You know, what you'd be saying pick tears Earls? I've always said my competitive fiber. You'll I clip your immediate reaction. Most been trained in Brooklyn. The planet is quick quick quick the biggest in the world, but Tevin foam, and Carol was totally made on social media, right? They went asked to each other like week and the next thing, you know, they signed by. So that fight was social media might not be the best like, but it was me on social media. Not true. Not true. More or less. It was. No, no. That was actually made in the back rooms of Matchroom. Remember if you don't remember correctly. Refresh your memory Joan akara had a fight on zone where they were ready dropping seeds before that fight build up to that fight where he drew. Okay. So it wasn't started on social media was starting on the network spilled into social media because he had a drill looks like shit and seven said you bum. I'm show you a bum. Still give you the fight and made it bigger on social media, which is what they need to do f-. I they're not the biggest network in the US in terms of boxing. So. To say that those are meat is just not true. Listen, nothing starts or finishes on social media. Not not a boxing contract. It just doesn't it doesn't. They need to sign guys sit down and dictate terms. Like imagine early Mikey being made on social media. Because Mikey said on every Ellie setback video that he wanted to fight Earl Spencer it's impossible because it was too many little, you know, prerequisites in that contract that need to be checked. Earl, you know, maybe it was Earl the said I want it in Jerry fan about the contract when we say things start if the gover- my car, and that's the whole point Mike starting on social media is one thing fights being made on social media. Which is your words is another being made is pretty much the same thing in order for fighters start Mike Garcia head to come out and say, hey, man, I won't Earl spins. Therefore, we can put the wheel the motion. It ain't the same thing chain, Gary. And Mike with Mike you say about parents crooked. We don't you saying parents corporate is a special right? Like there are guys like or or ROY or Manny special way class. It doesn't matter. He think cooperative in that of that quote. We don't know that yet even a middleweight or hurt or somebody like that a lot bigger that he's not going to say, that's what he I don't think so either. But if you're saying that he could be Cannella you're saying he's special. He's that he's he's great. He's all time great special rider. And that's what Mike you would have had been to be spent just a great fighter. He's not a special buy. Quadri spins drying, it's up to may one forty seven. Let's see Spence not having to make one forty seven minutes at a company that he's coming to way may possibly anybody's possible birth. I champs. I so what's your final thoughts? Man. What what what what did we accomplish? That came out my point across and everybody know know, how I view a six six you had impressed one, hence, the Outtara music. In by everybody knows feel how big fights happen. She did some some some people don't think social media is very effective when any big fights. And I think it's vital part of making big fights. I agree. Vital part. You know, again as long as you keep preferences things that way we on the same page. But when you start saying fights get made on social media. You know, I got a vital part of mecca. Thanks. I gotta get out that coffee him. I don't wanna crash I'm out. Gee and grow to six one. What up six what is? Hey, what's going on this guy from New York City? We're gonna gear Gary without them. I don't wanna do got you right here. Gary was up stand up talk to what's going on. All right. So I'm I'm a break it down like that. I got a straw filling. That by not going to never happen. A less crooked these top rank much like you. Why that corporate had to lead top rank? They all you notice how Bob I always try to discredit out it. But yeah, got to also remember Adam tried to sue out Heyman. Saying that he tried to monopolize with all the networks. Come on realistically, if somebody tried to sue you are you going to ever want to do business with him? Again, think about it and on top of that look at east got no Ponant. That's why they sitting here talking. They got nobody for them to fight who we gonna you. We all going to enjoy watching the fight all those European fighters over there that mean machine do those those garbage those guys are not it's to watch. That's why they doing what they do that even fake offer. Danny Garcia our point. And if I was crew it I hope crooked with smart enough to have a buyout clause in his contract. He really didn't even need rake. He really didn't need race. He's undisputed. He could've went and promoted himself. And he could've went on both sides of the street and clean up both sides. You mean, Mike what's the hit the hit those fights? He's got he's got to lead top rate. He's not going to get those onto our. I mean, look how they treat them the fight that Madison Square Garden, it's not even selling. There's no billboards all over New York City. No billboards, Tom square, promoting the fight or anything. Think about it. Come on this gay fury one hundred million dollars. They got another man who is not even nowhere has Benjamin crawfish pound for pound number one. And he's got a loss of get the journeyman who is that low Machiko come on. We all know it's way better fight it in a little bit chink. How'd you got him out for pound number one? And he's got a loss on the journeyman. It just doesn't make sense. Oh, no. We got you be ice. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. Thank you. Definitely. Appreciate you coming on here. Gary, you know, getting it off your chess. We're going to go out to tool three. What is that? I think that's Connecticut. Right. That is. Oh, shit new Connecticut. It is a new Connecticut. All right. First time calling Connecticut. What's that? Empower yo this this from Connecticut will chairman. My mic the way I getting all this step away. Tex me the way to get some. But real quick, but that's a fish. Must've known a smokeless coming. That's fucking. Love it. Yo y'all. So so let me get this old on let me get this information official. I can't believe that we found somebody for him. He was talking to most shit this nigga, you're talking shit nigga. He never ring. I was listening to the. Joe? So, you know, he, you know, he was looking for somebody for Mike. Gonna wanna do thirty two you right? But you know, I work. What am I could just write this down? Bore. Okay. Boy. Oh, five percents is rat for you might is a rat is a rat. He in lighten this over. Yeah. Yeah. I see you're doing the pull up to that. Reach look nasty. You look long. You realize that you see how wrong I can't go all the way to the ground because he's just like doing pull up and just putting his feet on the ground every time. No, you can't go to play you. Oh, you say you did the jailhouse quotas. Higher. Bard. I can go to go go find another bar. How about that? Might pitching. About that with homey. Want to get it down. Nobody duck, and I know Tim, nobody. Don't talk. How he got putting the time? He. War is baby. He got putting that time. Wink, real quick hundred. Fuck piece of the bucks grazie motherfucker. You feel not y'all. Oh. I'm like. Wartime of subscribe strategy. Twitter and all that shit. So, you know, but I'll smoke if you need work. Chimurenga bring me all you get a boss. So let's let's get some some some some statistics. How tall are you? Send them like six five. Oh, you gotta say. Hi. 'cause might six six three. Oh, six more. Six five five and a half out. Okay. So how much you weigh? Well in between between one seventy five eighty eighty five I which much that's how much you weigh might wind. If I when ninety. You know, my, but my. How many hotels in my he eat mash? That's all fat. He got an ad. It's going to he know he made me all the time to buy goods, shes and Salva patches. And all that crazy. Vegan born Regan. That's why he wants any five y'all. So you haven't been in the ring. Now. Boxes. Martial arts. Don't say while I was walking. I never really really put it in just a little bit of work on the pageant all that not me not doing now in chip. Oh, so you Jim down. Also, you had you see that's the vantage right there. I keep telling my he thinks no advantage, bro. Anima? Look, I know advantage on the whiskey. Nikolai anybody press video this you all in the press chill out Dimitrius. Andre the press conference to. Don't worry live. Now, he wants smoked he nervous. I never see them smoking smoking. In connecticut. He ain't gotta spend no flights. None of that. He comes straight the town for that s so, but you've been doing power. So have you put a ham with on? So he can get a good look me. But the company boy, my have you done. I never. No, I never never. I never saw. Nobody right now. I'm still looking to find, you know, the five people will be after to go as far because Chit so he'll very final in order for. Sure. No. But that's why I wanted to acts. Have you ever had that head get on? What about the mouthpiece? You used the mouthpiece. People now because my I keep talking to might. Oh, my God is definitely nervous entertain taking his calls. This pump game born he wants show. The public is upper body bore. You got him nervous. You. On the camera. You win is already into one. Did it get into you want him to know what he getting third the centers ain't even coming out? That's see is. Lows knows you do it right to take advantage of a good deal. Now, see you're ready to dig into spring projects. The first chance you can we do it right to with savings every day. Like twenty percent off. Select Scott's fertilizers one helps prevent weeds now and the other fees your lawn later step of your backyard by adding a new patio and get Holland pavers three for one dollar whatever's on your spring to do list. Do it right for less. Start with Lowe's. Offers valid for three twenty-seven pavers offer. Not valid in Hawaii. Let's varies by location. See store for details. US only. Lows knows you'll do it right to take advantage of a good deal. Now, you're ready to dig into spring projects. The first chance you can we do it right to with savings every day. Like twenty percent off. Select Scott's fertilizers one helps prevent weeds now and the other your lawn later step of your backyard by adding a new patio and get Holland pavers three for one dollar whatever's on your spring to do list. Do it right for less. Start with Lowe's. Offers valid for three twenty-seven pavers offer. Not valid in Hawaii letting varies by location. See store for details. US only. That's not. That's not what do you work. It is not out. Then I'll know that your confidence way too hot because you don't know me covered too. Two. That was. That's right. Hockey telling bro you never had a mouthpiece. You never head. You never even been locked chance with how you going to do this and talk like this. He thinks your natural. He thinking that you're so how are you? Oh, my Lord van. His head now. Hey. Don't tell them. I'm up there with you with age come experience, he'll know nothing about that extra years. You've got watching the game going. You're gonna put it on them. I see it. I see it. Over key nervous. Like, I would still be team. Like if he ain't get naked. But you went his head over Eddie. You win his head already. Oh, I don't know. He had called while some advice. Feary was good. I'm coming to count baby upcoming account baby. That's coming to count baby. So listen. How many weeks God, man? No. Working eight thing. Many will make it right. Yeah. Listen we looking at June. I make thirty I was either going to be on fight day or or way in day. But. I got your number. We're going to have the Commissioner Jose sands contact you, and we'll get everything in order. I just wanna thank you for. You know, even if it doesn't result in in for calling in, and, you know, getting under my skin 'cause I seen them. I, you know, I'm like. Medicate right now. Me down. I'm not a true. So back because I was just like, y'all. Want somebody to come out, you know, experiencing but your mouth got, you know, real. While from. They got to back it up. I corps to meet you. I do. Experience. Here. Here's where you Connecticut. Bull from Connecticut. You earn in a nigga born from him a fucking Connecticut. Gonna be me. You. Connecticut going to be a bore. He's nervous twist on while by now, you calling Tyson fury is quote nigger you quoted the road. Fair. Very now. Quoted demand don't want fight. He telling the same bore you and his head. You. Yeah. Don't don't get you about any social media because the public need to know who might fight and that social media matters. Famous facebook. Whatever you got four. Balking tall g boxing talk. Your see me on Twitter YouTube, y'all. I like, boxers I loved it. When I went to your YouTube channel, it was a box in channel because it's so much better than do. Like, I wanna do this. I mean, this is going to be beautiful. It's going to be beautiful F O G boxing on YouTube and Instagram. On or. Dropping Greer and put it in the chat. My. Drop it in the chat, and we go we go approve it. So everybody could check it out born from Connecticut. Thank you for calling in first time. Caller, y'know avid listening because yo- he sent that link on the morning show. I'm just here talking boxing, which one this show. Look at the comments from the morning show, see link click it and I'm like oh shit. So now talk about it live any fucking shows up 'cause might shake your Mike keep talking like he can call me like I got more fucking access to boom. But now, I do but don't call him in the term big told him, we got one I look forward to it to you got your real one. Now, would write my keep it real keep it real. You know, a hundred now now just like before football game. Right before basketball games. Nothing different. You get ready. Get ready. I I'm going to be ready. I'm I'm going to be ready up lying when that man called in you got butterfly bee pollen because Polly. That nobody down. What's have them? Be pauling. The super check ins. I got twenty on my boss stoppage. Hashtag, mike. Gotta gotta fight. Yeah. Don't lie. You see? It's all good. I'll be the one to say it like I'll be the one to say like. When I have both my face even certain spa partners than my coach will put me in there with I get them butterflies, Mike is lying. And that's what's going hurt him everything that he don't know about boxing is going hurt him info. Joe? You witness info Joe, oh, g fifty Izzo. He'd done Boorda was excellent. He, but if I might say, hey, like, he the man is still making four Mayweather get butterflies everybody saying about so I set him up with the easy question. He lied just like he lied about that nervous. And he guy naked everybody. I want people to know. I'm coming. I'm coming. On you, go to this. No, no, no. Who different radio going to be ready? I know you better get ready. Keep telling you bre people think being in shape is boxing shape. No, no. No. No. No. No. No. No, no. Damn Mike's going be busing his rocky training montage staff. Yeah. Mike, never even punch a bang, Mike. What you don't even know where it's Jimmy Indiana is if. Not really. Oh shit. That's that's an Uber though. If. Years. One of these bad women. This is what people don't know this is border wars one. Oh one right here. Where people don't know they're getting themselves into now. Now, he got a scheduled training because guess what? Mike what you don't know case, you didn't know 'cause this why take trainer so fucking serious cause I ain't coming back here and sitting on YouTube in front of hundred thousand now get my. Yes. Every day for that. Now now where we're doing. Dan. He'd put the pressure the world on his shoulders Yaw man, somebody's gotta do it me. So do I still need to get on the phone? I I need a build north especially I've built may more than fan. Just know he just posted in chat, I'm approving on that link is approved Twitter. Yes. My said make Mike are proof. I'll pray for you. You can perfectly perfectly moment. Mike, go smoke this guy. Yeah. That's that. That's that TV lobe. I respect I respect for Ryan. When my you know based off the love he got cold over they shirt back on. Arrive from my bed TV, man, but yo- boxing and gain Mike better. You better contact do me get yourself a little regiment. You know, what I'm saying get off that sugar because that can be. 'cause. Our air of that should get you. You know, you drop your drought, bro. You get you know. You get a sugar rush, and you got energy for a second. But then when it's your body said down. So you don't want them sugars champ. And you'd be eating Hella candy. Yeah. I'm gonna go back to what I've been doing. Oh, you going back to your basketball trainer. Yeah. Man. Trying to work with cardio when Gidon Tiffany down the streets. I'm getting some some some some core training to monotonous -ssarily, mostly bogey. But can of course, jogger you need to use the box invoice to get your some advice like airports, you gotta find a wheelchair coach. Because honestly, I'm saying, and I don't even know how to like how do you build stamina, bro? That's that's not a hard thing to do. Because. Are use my orange everything pretty much rolling. I'm used to doing that. Just like the day. We went to that drag did all those laps. That's how you build them. That's why I was trying to do them so fast and not like just go at your patients. Also, you know, just I'm in a wheelchair. So I I should be able to do a little bit faster than you thought. It was damn big. Knicks money pals coaches in the wheelchair Meyer, you're here. And you got his number all you. Well, you're putting putting your business knows you see in some I said battle ropes, Dan, somebody said Mike is going. Oh, no this Mike going to get put to sleep in his tank. Okay. What to come back have people Bob eating obvi- six past the weeds to me, Mike is for your own good. I'm different. But the thing gotta go. Danton it and. Nasa my else, Casey, I'm in a wheelchair and not do shadow boxing routines weights in order to build up my stamina for three minutes at a time with one minute breaks round. I think on you to doing it Seattle. Boston ways to sign. I even do. Yeah. That's even what I do. You know, I try to shadow by some ways to keep, you know, keep them hands of because the gloves already way sixty now says, you know, so you gotta keep demands to. I don't even know my guy you're going to be dog. This is so crazy because it's so different than boxing because like unless you are not going lot. But then if you don't lot is kind of pointless because then you've got the gloves. You can't move the chair. Yeah, we should. But that makes it so much difficult. There's no game plan in that. You gotta have canal like lateral movement to be locked in a chair and not get hit. Parish is too. Yeah. I'm gonna be Mike's gonna man, you know, anybody see my comments in you know, I can't help. But give advice. Should we? Oh shit f o g say you can move the chair, which gloves you're to you. I to bra man, you might have to come over early. Man. You ain't never even gloves. All my imagining. I go. Okay. Okay. Not the fight. But like like hit a bag of something. Like this pick love use them to move your chair towards the bag and all that this was this man, I was going to go. I was I was just thinking that today. And I talked about it with my girl yesterday about wildest we might as well go next week. You gotta Ola. Listen. I don't want you to take it as a joke, man. He's boys. Joke him on on the difference difference between you and Eric cruises. I got a voice. For me day going to try to make an example out of you not he says, he wasn't until you talk that sub shin was a martial arts and bring him in here. Let's go. None of what I used to do which what you do. Now. Yeah. They said, please help them. I am we're going to try try and sign up to do me team. See what he can do man. God is good, man. I love this show. I love you guys. I cannot believe Mike gotta fight. We said it we spoken to exist. As men we. We. A'see and the beautiful part is that he's listening a longtime listener actual boxing fan. So he going to give my somewhere. 'cause you've been listening to bison watching by logging and Mike. So might you earn your stripes today or that day on them for free? Bre let's go I still ain't gonna fight big Nick one. Well, JD and medias the main event Nydia, Jamie. I mean, I don't know you will host my debut on the main oven. I like it. I'm gonna wanna gloat, and I come and tell you like. Research like do you get to use regular whales in on that because the Mattis sponge, so I wonder that's a whole nother one the Mattis sponge bre is cloud with on the meat, but then it's like a picture horse behind or like self remember this. Remember some rings got double sponge member fury. What what what what train? It was like. Yeah. We wasn't going fight. Because of it was on. I was show. He said, you're the ring was w. They made them take it out right before the fight. Another do said the ropes, you know, they made them tighten the roads to light. All shit matters. Ten chan. You know, your post fighting when I go I never been in the wheelchair fight now on. No. So I'm gonna be better. Yeah. I'll be back better. But you own one now. So you gotta get one. No. I'm just say if you won. One not are you fired. I'm putting the Jose right now. Get him outta here team. I'm Tom our now. That's all I'm I'm not taking him lightly. He's right. Lows knows to it right to take advantage of a good deal. Now see already to dig into spring projects the first chance you can we do it right to with savings every day. Like twenty percent off. Select Scott's fertilizers one helps prevent weeds now and the other feats your lawn later step of your backyard by adding a new patio and get Holland pavers three for one dollar whatever's on your spring to do list. Do it right for less. Start with Lowe's. Offers valid for three twenty-seven pavers offer valid into Weiss letting varies by location. See store for details. US only. We deliver ticket T shirt and everything to what you really get so much more buttocks delivery passion. What we deliver by delivering small. You don't want to. I punched in the face to be today. Your fight, bro. I'm in different gloves and mouthpiece. Mike. Stop get that. Please start calling some of these fighters today just told hey, man, I'm the first because it ain't the sane. Stop thinking is not the same. But it's not the same. It's not safe. Oh, police said do oppo and vote, but it's to be the main event on patriot. The people talking for Mike. Status. Mike, right. I mean, I might. I don't know, man. If you get that I and he stopped you. We might forget by the time to main Vetco. But if we never forgot if you got stop. Okay. Eight seven got a hundred Mike you d thirty to twenty seven easy money. Yeah. Why underestimate him? Jeep icing like that bra. I ain't never. Yeah. We never seen. My do. I seen them. I seen them do like far-lefts. I ain't got the stamina. But that's all I seen him. Do we just C F O G to pull ups? Figure out and I got done about res-. I'm the basis some nice shape. Believe that. Nathan spent says might go smoke this guy, y'all. So listen born everybody's against you. But that's now start sending me that footage us we transfer dot com. I'm gonna techs you. We're gonna get the Commissioner of the coal you. We're going to set this up gonna make this won't be. Oh. RV? Bamber? My. Go get this. Dove. Oh, maybe Monday. You have I everyone when they go on Monday got Debbie bay. Clean under you, sit out my clean it up my evenings. Don't know my kids got them concrete has I ain't got to create heavy hand what the name is Mike. What's his name who you know, his name beyond switching? We'll know that nigga. That's what I thought. Well, no big. I well know that day who is might let them know. I'm just a man just to go. Sleep that he tried to get home on that. I gotta get you. Gotta get your humble routine on two hundred between. They gave you a fucking ring. Name you ready for this might lights out gross that I don't thank the word you putting his lights out. Got one forgot it. The rolling thunder. Got you don't know. Y'all get any bang to you. Nathan spent said the wheelchair wilder. No we looking for that. No. We didn't try talking about in this north. Where are you? All man might you only thunder. Who say? Let them know my Dr. You know, my. All right. I'm excited, bro. Over it is they said Mike g but gross Ford. I got a question. I got a question. What do like because you know? It's kinda easy to see what nigga hurt when he's standing. What do wanna get slap back? I want me. My referee will educate himself, you see how Siri come in with this and quick sand. With bre abra. You'd better watch some will too. I got to I have to research. So you get yourself, you know, educated whatever. Founding Nate river while you going. Do me say, Mike, the boss gross. Nah. Nah. Rollet thunder. Now are wanting fire Disney get different stand up and shit. I'm like what the fuck is going on. What? What? So you're saying he going to come all the way to a New York faking it and faked like, he can't know, that's crazy. Wait real. I'm so tired. Hook might made that joke. Not me be Pauley Pauley with which I think might bring everybody. For part of him. You know, I got your back, man. You gotta roll with my hotdog drugs. That's kind of God damn, right? You got the high you, Dan, right? Beat hauling. Listen. I'm sure y'all clipped that whole conversation with bro card in put that in another video please make own video now. Will he be moment? Okay. Wait. The is might get ready RV state on your support. Hopefully, I can make it out there jahmai, dude. Man this crazy, man. I'm just as excited as you, man. I'm. Your euro work, put them Square-style, get your cardio work. I'm a PB. It's crazy is going down. My it's going down. Can't wait, man. Can't wait as GTO Instagram and Twitter gross, nineteen eleven g grows. Toothy one to Twitter about to be some series yell. How man said Mike men hammer, pause gross. I have no clue that it might destroy dark destroyer right to the I'm black. The south ward awards that Eric b Jim. So I can show who's Eric b every moon hope era be will write Cam to the side. Hell, yeah. We need to get an Esa fight, man. They plan me. But that's I I've been going to the gym. I went back yesterday. I ran a day. They hang on hang on get Nestl. No more. I'm done with that shit. Yo NFL good feel good. Put them gloves back sometime might my my my my my need to go. Go go go downtown that I'd probably need to go to 'cause they offer like a personal training for boxing probably gonna look into that or north like you said go down memory acquitting fan. Was going on with BNB shape. Butman bought war starting to shape. But I mean, if you're fighting becomes official is Midi versus JD JD versus Midi, whoever that is. That dude that you mention in United. He told me he can't get a visa homes. So you know, that was just like I said Kyle chasing. He hit me up on Twitter on my I can't get a visa fly to the UK. And then after you telling me that you still talking crazy in this like, bro. Like, I'm I'm we just going to stop our event. Like. For do like a hundred pounds lighter than me in doing that. But yeah. Meaty versus JD Jose took a dangerous fight and Sal dangerous way. So we do which are we do the the film study on that fight on south. I fight people forgot about side. But it's because they wanna forget about side. They don't want that saws with south. But. Damn, you know, Jose's rain might be over. I'm still Ryan with the champ because I feel like they're going to undress the made him. They've always underestimated him. And that's I keeps coming out on top. Plus is I don't even know if we could call them smaller though, 'cause he was just the bee's in trainer homeboy was like fourteen drop down one sixty 'cause he was just sitting out here being fat. So, but he's not so so in Jose's mine. He's like. Sales moving up in week. But reality is Sal went down. So this end up being a bomb burner. The thing is he's way. Way ten times more technically skilled than than than than Jose. Like the skill is super evident. There isn't a mistake. Like, we're not going to see, you know, a lot of border wars fights, look like you ever watched YouTube Bumfights. Scene. Bumfights, mike. No. I'm ready. I'm over here. Magin like somebody in a chair. To me working on my little we work at he worked on anyway. 'cause all that is son. You gotta do because you've never done it already. Like, if you know if there's going to be uncomfortable. I'm pillows or fucking new chair. You don't know. Nothing yet. I'm tired. This is who knows there might have. There might have some ball wheel. So so I can move a bit better than I'm not too much. Oh, big Nick, man. I thought she was just a hey to Lee even watched the iron sow for. And that's what I'm saying. Sal is really good ninety seconds. Oh, we got the Salvors Jose. I'm trying to make Anthony Edwards the Cincinnati Cobra. He's accepted defy what Eric cruise. Eric crews except Eric called out and regain and Rica has an accepted yet. He's thinking it over and we gaze message was. Man. The cure not just baked in them. Niggers? It ain't about in the moment. Hey about them in there. About who get it where I'm not bitching. I I'm beater built. No bill. Don't matter me out. I'm in the rain with what this guy what's his name? Again. I'm sorry. I wanted to spectrum with his doesn't matter what his damn name meals all about Mike. I'm gonna beat his. Simple and plain lights like giant. You know, why I'm trying to advise my the way the that. I am. Because my last night. I had a great camp. A great camp. Like, I thought I had the best sparring. A thought of random mounds physically. I look great. I was doing the most push ups that are done in a while. I was doing the most pull ups that are done in a while. I was even. Sit ups and things like that. You know, what I mean like I actually had a four pet. An effort was still super fucking of you know, what? Check the reason I'm talking X degrees. Because I want to best you possible from a place where competition is key. And the better the person is the more I can glow when I win. So I want the best you'll that's going to step in the rain. I went to pull it up should push up. Whatever their you gotta do Japan work, everything you gotta do you work to to to to get in the best shape and the best camp. Whatever you gotta do brother. I'm coming in. And I'm going to be the best Mike that I have been since since injury. So guarantee you're going to get the best. And hopefully, I'm gonna get the best you, and I know I know Mike is going to take it serious because he was a competitor. And this gives you the opportunity to compete again to show everybody. So I'm sure you go you won't be there. But. Is definitely different. Some research is all I'm saying because that's something completely new if putting on gloves in boxing is no putting on gloves and boxing in the wheelchair has to be foreign. So we got to figure out when you get there. I would love to do a press conference north. I really take this one day extra mile on really have a little sit there. Other face to face. It's something a little Essner. Oh, no. You know is lucky man. I'm trying God is good. This fight is happening at the right, Tom because I was talking to Jose. And I had already spoke to Dominique so the do the did the access to give series that he recorded it for me when I went to see wild alone. He's going to be recording Boorda was so we still going to do what we did with the four cameras, but we still go have a secondary video crew recording everything all access style because that's really what attracted. Wow, there was all the buildup, and we decided that we didn't have that. Because we went in house this sound. So we're going to source it out and do that. So we get extra coverage because. Yeah, it's gonna be good, man. This is gonna be amazing, bro. Look Saturday is border wars. Let's see if now Mike wakes up he never made a border war show. Let's have you going to be duck in his work. You gotta get up. Every saturday. We do a ten AM border war show. So you know, if you do decide to take the fight with Mike and sign up and all that good stuff. You know, we need you to participate. But yeah, man, this is this is good. This is let me see somebody saying JD job. In fact, she was going on refresh. It we got be paulie main event. Mike O main event might that sounds good. Been done the phone. Oh, yeah. What rapper? In one player was named main event has some serious ups and Bree. All right. Well, Instagram, Twitter GTO. I g girls ten eleven and on Twitter girls. Three one to go. Uh-huh. Mastermind Joseph saying he might have to make a trip after hashtag team might might you bring him out. My my really get made status together. Bring him the first border was we got an audience. What have we gotta sell tickets to this shit? What if it's going to be people did the vote? I mean that that's always been the goal. But I don't know how close we are to that bigger. Jim man actions. Though, we got options is here. I get to host now. Okay. Julian Rodriguez, we could do my home. Jim, you know, which I'm sure we'll have all free range we can set up in there because it's straight I level. You know, the gym is the floor. The ring is the floor of the padding is right on the floor is not elevated like my last, Jim. But if we don't do that Julian Rodriguez got a beautiful gym in Hackensack. We could talk to savage, which is he he's been working with with PD quindlin and Chris Colbert, not as a I as a second. You know, he's been helping early on associated. They got their Jim in hacking sat and I'm still holding out. Hope you know, Joon goose mind, multiple division champion Dominican is from. New York, he trains and Gleason, and you know, he fucks with us. He was at depreciation night. That's my man's in them. I'm seeing maybe we get in the in the iconic Gleason, but they might be a little out our range, but you know, to get it in Gleason with all. I mean. Wow. That goes for his media work. I Louis OT's was his media workout, you know, to have that nest. Owl. Joe would be good. But New York comes alive expenses. We're thinking to keep it in jersey got band ban. The travel is simple people can park their cars 'cause New York, you know, it's a lot of hustle, and bustle and everything is more expensive. You know, the gym is going to be more because his New York because his Gleason cetera et cetera. But. Whoa. We got Mike a fight where out pace. Lows knows you do it right to take advantage of a good deal. Now see already to dig into spring projects the first chance you can we do it right to with savings every day. Like twenty percent off. Select Scott's fertilizers one helps prevent weeds now and the other feature your later step of your backyard by adding a new patio and get Holland pavers three for one dollar whatever's on your spring to do list. Do it right for less. Start with Lowe's. Offers valid for three twenty-seven pavers offer valid into Hawaii selection varies by location. See store for details. US only. Lows knows you do it right to take advantage of a good deal. 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The "Boxing on a Corner After Tyson-Holyfield III Sells Over 4 Million PPVs" Episode

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49:30 min | 6 months ago

The "Boxing on a Corner After Tyson-Holyfield III Sells Over 4 Million PPVs" Episode

"Hey this is Megan. Pino and I'm sue bird. We've decided to turn our crazy. I G live show into a podcast for your listening pleasure. Enjoy the show touch more new episodes of a touch more drop Tuesday only on the blue wire podcast network. Be Sure to subscribe to the show on spotify apple or anywhere else. You listen to podcasts. What everybody welcome to another episode of the Corner Podcasts? Kill Dan's we here with the old man. On Jay's hail were promised you we would come back with a combat sports episode and here it is. We're talking about boxing we're talking about A. Ufc fight is going down in Vegas. At the APEC Center highlighted. By tyron Woodley. They also have a paper if you coming up next week. So business is picking up in the world of MMA continuing to roll on that front. We also have boxing about to start taking top rank announced when they will return. We expect others to follow suit shortly. So we're getting back into the thick of things. It is exciting again in combat sports to get going before all the other sports gives us stuff to talk about To start this episode though dre something that just came across my desk and I felt like just throwing it in here at a whim to start it off. And that is the highest paid fighters of twenty twenty twenty thousand nine hundred twenty twenty right so the past year. We've seen a good amount of fighters I thought get big paydays. What comes in that. Only five of them crack the Forbes top one hundred paid athletes and leading the pack. We have Tyson fury route number. Eleven fifty seven million earned last year. We have Conor McGregor coming. In at forty eight million ranked sixteenth we have Anthony Joshua shut to zone ranked nineteenth a forty seven million wilder twentieth right behind him at forty six point five and can Nilo ranked thirtieth at thirty seven million. I'm shocked right. 'cause I don't know you guys plan I know you guys don't do pay per view but if you list these four got these five guys together. Maybe I'll Khanna McGregor fought once I believe in the it's from June from this June. Two last year he fought wants and netted the forty eight mill outside of Conor McGregor. I'm not sure how con- Canola Alvarez isn't second on this list Does double the pay per views of wilder and fury. He hasn't fought. He fought twice last year. He fought September over live. He fought of that. Was this one fight. Wow Okay so that's why it's at thirty seven. She okay. Fury fought between June. June fought twice while talk twice because they both have warm-ups. Yep You're right so they had warm ups for each other And then you have Elaine and that you had or teams then fought each other's. Let's to fights. Joshua fought twice 'cause in June. He was upset and hit three match. So that's twice. Canola me that in one. Connor made that in one okay so they would've been wanting to slow down. Man is Yo- fury from where he was too being. The number one paid fighter sports at fifty seven million in a calendar. Year is incredible. Incredible I the man was three hundred and fifty pounds. He says like seventeen stone is what he said. It's crazy to come back. I expected Joshua to get here expected. Wildest Gate here 'cause they're heavyweights right. Every traditionally get paid. Fury's the biggest surprise to me and connor forty-eight eight mill. I thought that was low especially for proper whiskey. But maybe there's just counts. How much pay out and not your your entities in which yells is going to be my question because this does this. Include advertising market like anti Joshua's under armor so does include any other yes it includes endorsements four put in endorsements but not what you own so connor owns proper whiskey. He they only included what they cut him in a check for last year. Not The entire equity of the company so his equity if he sold that shit would shoot him through the moon. I'm sure I'm sure of it. Could Lord a s a lot of money man? I mean look canal. Oh She's one fight. Looks like thirty seven mill but what I think contracts thirty right thirty five a fight so he brought in like two mill. Endorsements Floyd Mayweather brought in zero in endorsements cleaning. That's doesn't endorse shape. Never seen commercial. Did Bananas thing ever. But these guys I mean Korea cash conor McGregor being the cash. Cow this this forty eight million dollar figures very interesting to me because he he did fight one time. Yeah and makes you a man? We're going to talk about John. Jones Fransen God who thing but man it makes you wonder how much of fighters getting made that we don't know about. I mean a lot of this has to be on the back end right like he and it seems like you have see is doing this which. I mean from what I've heard on the record with John Jones. And everything is that he's seeking this guaranteed money but the USC seems to be offering incentive based contracts. You put up this number you get this amount so on and so forth percentages whatever so when you look at that. I can see a guy like connor betting on himself. It's an easy return. Isn't that what floyd did when he went out like when he left top rank and went to showtimes? Like I'm going to better myself. And that's how. He started making Boo Koo Bucks because his numbers started going through the roof so connor. I can see him saying it. Better myself if you're John Jones. Which we'll talk about later the yeah. I'm not sure he's in a position to bet on himself. In terms of pay per view buys mature. If that's you know I don't know of him. I Francis and God who gives him what he thinks. He's going to get which might be why he wants. Guaranteed money which we'll talk about. John Jones him refuting. So is it troubling to you to see one? Mma person this is the five guys on the top one hundred. I don't know how do we gotta go to find another. Mma Guy on this list when it to we might name into seventeen boxers before we get to the next guy in like Daniel Cormie. I don't even know who's next but it'll take forever to get to those guys and Connor had to go to boxing to establish this type of payday. Is this still? How do you justify that they do the same model dinner on the same network? Tyson fury and Conor McGregor on the same network. Same pay per view platform. Same selling point everything and he's bringing in fifty seven mill. Why is no one else you? I don't know if you take the next ten annual salaries of the UFC and they add up to a Tyson fury made for two fights atom of Nido. Yeah I don't I don't think you do so is talk has to be something different right like how do you justify this? I in the U. OF C. Model is Kinda McGregor. Just broke it. But it's the brand over. The fighters is a UFC then Dana White. Then everybody else kind of took it into his own hands it fuck all that Rhonda Kinda did too but it was different like Rhonda was like an anomaly at the time. And that's worker Ronda. Rousey McConnell came in called his shots like bet on himself. You dared anybody to call. His bluff has the perfect storm of fights fought quickly ended them faster. And you WANNA see him. Talk the right amount of Shit like he did everything right. There's going to be so hard like the. Us GOING GONNA look. This didn't ever GONNA WANNA pay another fighter again this kind of money because as much as I love Connor and what he brings to the table. They don't WanNa pay this money to somebody else. Because it's a huge risk counter had to win to get this far and still I don't WanNa say completely mind blowing but he got choked up India's in that helps them get paid more right like it didn't really matter because he had a built in excuse and I guess that's what happens when you take proper risks proper twelve properous. He fought in the weight class to weights higher than his regional. Wait an last minute fight so it didn't really matter. People always washed up news. Fine then one beautiful lost F. I different story. Then he wanted to. He lost the copied snuffed out anyone. All he did was give Khabib. The RUB could start. Everyone's to star Neko's back. He doesn't biggest pay-per-view number. They got unfortunately Donald's star star in his own right but connor was the star. No-one no-one moves needles icon interesting to see what connor does compared to like a Cannella. True Canola pay-per-view foot because I still think Nilo has that drawing power is just you know he's on a platform. Now you get your money straight up and catch money straight up note. No shame in that just broke down thirty five mill- fight shit that take that to the bank. So yeah man. It's crazy to see these numbers but I'm not shocked by the top five so I felt like opening with that. Next year's top five might look drastically if Mike Tyson wants to wanted to different. Trae these all. These guys are amazing. No one has the earning potential of Mike Tyson comeback and it looks Dana White data white gave us an interview at USPS. Yesterday I posted the Shit. He says Tyson Israel. He's coming back. We Damn near Table The exhibition shit. He wants to fight. Maybe lower rounds on some butterbean type stuff. But there won't be no headgear. Give him four game six rounds for Tyson. That's an eternity for what Tyson was. Then you have other people think about coming back Roy. Jones is hitting the bag. We got Event Holyfield saying completely like arm back to we have other people wanted to get in on. This may guys wanting to get a little piece of Tyson. Plenty of options dre. You can't tell me Tyson. Holyfield doesn't do the biggest pay per view number next year. If they wanted to it depends on what else fights. I do think some you could fight on you. Fight Jason Whitlock on undercard. You guys get paper viewpoints. Do I think like if Josh Fury? That's a bigger fight. I after fury wilder which is a huge fight and seeing the numbers eight drew. Yes wilder or skewed fury. Joshua's big is not Tyson returned big because those guys biggest stars that they are they are Tyson big. I don't think Tyson someone pay per views like that. Oh I think I think tights itself pay per views like people tune in for Mayweather McGregor. I think price point out one hundred dollars and people will buy it look. I'll bet you're going to argue this point because people the fucking weird people are where I see the numbers on Tyson. Post people are fucking weird like people love Tyson posts. But it's just like. Are you going to pay pay per view to watch but how many people watch wilder fury didn't pay for that Shit? Know Steel Steel Fever. That's high that's the key. The people want to watch Tyson field again or people a larger group of people incapable of stealing my grandmother. Those people that generation who still pays for pay per views will do it out of muscle memory and you will get a higher mark than people who want to Joshua fury and we'll steal. 'cause this is a fight that not only taps into the people currently know how to stream but to people who have no clue how to do so and there's a lot of people who don't know. I know a lot of people that can't there fucking remotes. We know people in boxing media that if you handle them computer instead five this fight right now illegally would be lost as fuck. There are people and they work in boxing. There are people who can't bootleg if they wanted to in this fight with sell with them. I don't know man I don't know how big this does. I don't think four million like those numbers. No nobody does too. I don't even know if it does to do if racing at sixty it does to wild if you can do a million and that's okay but okay how big of a farce was McGregor versus mayweather. You have a how big of stars where McGregor Mayweather Coronado big as nice in Holyfield trilogy. Don't the Jewish. I see him hitting pads post this thing every day. People believe dre. You don't believe you didn't believe connor can knock or at stood a chance. I Guess Mayweather but other people believed and they tuned in Tyson. No here's the difference with Mayweather. Mcgregor was two worlds anime boxy joining crossing each other. The biggest the biggest boxing force it was very had the immigrant community behind him. Tyson's a mainstream star but Tyson hasn't won a meaningful fight in twenty three years. Twenty two years twenty three years hasn't wanted meaningful fight and to ask people who come out of their pocket a no man to fight another old man who wasn't selling pay per views like two million. That's a lot that's a lie. They do the engine left to be behind the Sony. Other things aren't things that won't happen but it's like what the fuck is going commission. These two fifty something years if somebody will do it. Don't get me wrong. Somebody would do it but two million. They'll beef this shit up because there's a lot of things gotta to happen in terms of promotion are Tyson and Holyfield going a worldwide tour of talking to each other baby. What else do they got to do? Yes possibly man possibly got them heart attack doing all that damn travel look. I can't see this. I think the fight will be attractive. Just like any goofball fight will be attractive but no you're underestimated you're underestimating the power. I'll tell you in this climate simple to y'all know I posted the fucking ear-biting thing the other day people are like. Oh I forgot about this. Licks a free. What clicks are are three? But there's a translation and how much if I post mayweather content of opposed connor content. You know this you can generate and understand excitement level based on your numbers and analytics but do Tony Kornheiser on PTI. I said I don't even pay for sports anymore. Boxing all the stuff I will pay for this. Yes I will buy a seat. I was risking owner. It is raining pay people in his lowest because they would pop the highest number. I'm not sure. Ever because his bootlegging absolutely it it will reach McGregor we'll stat. It will not reach you pay per views absolutely not. You're nuts if you think this reach four million paper no what do they do? Two Point Four. No they were the McGregor. Did four point three to me. What was the highest four point six with a pack? Yeah Oh it's doing four then I'd take my fucking stance back. Cannella can do to ask doing for four Tim. Right under your even. That's the thing to this fight with do that. You absolutely bananas. And it's not even one hundred. They prices at sixty. Do they price six and my towel? No no there is no way this doing for million. No curiosity aren't hanging fights like that you guys you should learn this because you just saw but dice reasserted. Two years ago to now is recent people will pay that. Recent pandemic are either Tyson or Holyfield as big a star as Conor McGregor. Mike Tyson is yes to this day. He's a he's biggest currently right now right now. The big an attraction to fight as YUP IF NOT BIGGER CORRECT. No He's you're in. Mma bottle bubble. Yes but people still don't recognize I am as a fucking sport people understand Mike. Tyson Nostalgia Belt Ninety one. Three in Vegas. Yes he pops. What's what's the last payment. Worst last pay per view bossing Mexa crack over a million aside from with Magritte's Telemann Tyson doesn't do a mill. Actually Question Cannella was. The last one can triple g one point eight maybe to you know no barely over one. No daily cleared one. I'm looking at because that's crane you don't you know who but if I what Mexicans you have under power black people the buying power when it comes to pay per view of black people in the youth. They don't buy that. Shoot they steal it? Especially now because the climate of the world has changed. Because everybody's cutting the cord. Everybody I got home like do you want to see shit. It'll track willow now glove at one point one. I one point three and that fight was huge thin crack to. Why does this give her five? They're bugging might one but we we dude counter was a circus because of what connor meant to the community may people bought into the connor hype and it was the Once in a Lifetime. Thing and Floyd Mayweather was undefeated. There were so this is an aerial coming back. This is too old Fox fighting in the ring. Yes we love Mike Tyson. But who really gives a fuck about him? Vander Holyfield Tyson Holyfield are synonymous together and for the first time people believe Tyson. My wash his ass. Here's here's how here's Miss? Oh Boy Mike Tyson fights whoever does a ton of is van Holyfield fight somebody you think is not talking about no but they have history. I'm just asking. The question. Have History. It's deluge of just talking about the drawing power. Mike Tyson draw correct. There's a story line here that exists correct fifty something years old. Nobody's paying four million. People are not buying this fight. You're out all old. You underestimate the stupidity. Know-how nation people buying people. Still with us. It's awesome still. Nobody's buying pay per view. Is like that anymore. That McGregor was a circus shows. Two years ago. This would it be a circus? This this would not be the circus degree because you big back. Neither of those men will do the vigorous storing media obligations. Day Won't do that to the extent they don't have the energy that Conor McGregor Hats Tyson has working podcast Tyson if Tyson wants to be on. Espn right now. Were shutting down whatever the hell is on television. The tore between Mayweather McGregor drove buys because of the entertainment value. Even though it was ridiculous those two we just talking Shit I. I don't think I could bear to watch holyfield-tyson talk shows each other. It would replace the weekend before we would play the first fight. And the second and it's free people would that but people are four million people aren't buying that fight. Oh boy fifty years old. You're because you're so that's fine. I'll let you be wrong here. So I'm not on four million people four million. It does if it doesn't do better by doesn't do better than McGregor. There's an floyd in a way. This four million is that's house it like. What is the fucking record? What is wrong with guys? He's coming back dude informally when he was active and pay per view was in every household he and do that number when he was active knocking. People out the big attraction. Embossing people to named for Floyd Snooze. Fats we knew what we're going to get floyd a school. What's what's going to talking about. You know what I'm saying like him versus McGregor. We knew it was going to be a one-sided traffic school but everybody that people Dixie McGregor migraines those same people by into Tyson McGregor macklin workout. If I were McGregor. Sold to fight was also recently by with conor McGregor because he was knocking people out in the May. Where's mayweather was undefeated considered old when he really wasn't so you had boxing versus MMA. There was a completely different storyline. Two old men fighting connor just lost a year before. But we're talking about Conor McGregor recency bias. He Kinda mcgurk is has been a superstar for a wild and he's not Mike Tyson. Floyd home is is barely the star. Mike tightness. There's a difference between people that you want to watch in a car accident versus people that you WanNa Watch fight. People WanNa Watch Conor McGregor fight. People WanNa Floyd Mayweather loops. I don't know what people WANNA see. Vander Holyfield Tyson knocked his ass out but people told want to pay four million. People AREN'T GONNA want to pay not for not for all right. We'll let the people decide but I drastically disagree with you. Do let them in a bigger number now than you. When I saw something two years ago between two guys that I think this could equal the amount of buzz two years because between the undefeated pound for pound cash king who was the pay per view king who killed Tyson's numbers even before fighters inflation. Yes yes yes. He's even better. He built a better basis correct. Yes yes Tyson do. Tyson is going to take advantage of one of his prime years. People will be curious they will buy four million people will absolutely not by despite three billion minimum stealing because people dog hope they should ask and this. This four million number is ridiculous for what you to what? I'll give you one in a possible I won't. There is no way I'm giving you four million for this trait. We are stopping. We're stopping at this and I still owe you one but we're doing it again. Dinner do another bridge Beck Co Co Brunch. Bet Gimmie three five. Now you got four you ask before you get four more for. I'm confident I'll take four Tyson. Holyfield does four million pay per view. Buys you guys her to here. I I'm going Brunch. Bet I'll yet buffets aren't even open find somewhere brunch. Bet this do it. I'm caching now. My wife is outside of wherever recorded. Takes me no more bets excavation? Release just as you know. I'm standing by this bet. It's done income on four million runge. Gak like four drunk. I'm barely through this crowd. Peach all right. So let's let's take a quick break when we come back. Let's run through this. Mma card and talk more about John. Jones Francis Gano. You stay right. There might make another bet on the other side of this. We'll be right back all right. We'll get back to their show on one second but first there's no shortage of action. Going on at our exclusive partner bet. Online NASCAR is back and bet online has hundreds of other games events and sports to get in on you can still bet on simulated NFL NBA and UFC. Vince twenty four seven or you can participate in a ten thousand dollar madden bracket challenge a march madness style. Nfl simulation torn. You can enter for free and coming up next Sunday. Bit Online has X. Chicago Bulls Ron Harper. Horace Grant Bill Car. An Craig cards is joining them to discuss the Michael Jordan documentary on. What they're calling the final dance visit bit online that ag and use Promo Code blue wired. Receive your new welcome bonus and check out all the action that online. Your online wagering solution. I'm winning this one. I got exude confidence. Who is how it always starts? Always get riled up is always talked always feel so good in the beginning all right all right just that quick. We are back to laugh every I always feel so confident of gaining by it. I don't know why he is so funny. I've confident in this. It's it's happening right. It's going to be the first one I win. People you guys got to be behind me on this one. I feel it. I feel the strength. Mike Tyson's coming through with the big number. Let's talk about the USC and numbers and the Mount. John Jones is looking to fight Francis and gone John. Jones goes on twitter. And says you know what the fight's not going to happen. I WANNA move up to heavyweight. Try it out at first. He said he wanted to catch. Wait to twenty get his feet wet and then go all the way heavyweight then it gon who's like L. Let's fight. John was like fuck it. Let's do this at God. Knock someone's face off again in under a minute and John wanted the challenge then he wanted the UFC to put up the money for it. Make the risk worth the reward. But he failed to realize that you have see didn't ask for this fight he francis and gone will ask for this fight kind of lose leverage when is not clamored by the company? The fans anything I you just created out air and then says they talked about it briefly. Never put a real number on the table and pretty much. Got The gist. That it was not going to happen. He went as far as threatening to not defend his heavyweight title. Because there's nothing left their forum and you'll just vacated and chill out until they WANNA pay him as much as he deserves. They wait is going on. Espn several times since and said John's looking for upwards of five million dollars for these fights may be more and it comes back to me. And I'm thinking John Jones is grossly underpaid in the same breath. Dana White said John Jones's best mixed martial artists of all talk. So when you're paying conor McGregor better than the best ever does a problem there. He should probably close that gap. But even then I'm not sure how much leverage John has because I still don't think he's a draw and you get paid off of being a draw more so than being the best in the world. I argue Tanko. Crawford are the best in the world along with Canelo. Canova came in fifth on the list. We talked about earlier in the show. Four fighters above him. None of them are in the top five eight pound for pound in the world so sometimes skills don't pay the bills you know. Sometimes it's about. How many is you can draw to you. And I don't think John Jones is the biggest sell he's not. I mean he's been proven these not but I think there's two things here that need to be examining one is. Yeah nobody asks for this fight but what happened with John? Joel started talking about France and Ghana became like the biggest thing in. Mma people wanted us because the level of injury between guy who just murders people with his hands and the best pound for pound fighter in the world. Moving away classify the guy that nobody wants to fight. There's a level of intrigue that I think People Will WanNa see is a fight. You didn't know you wanted to and I think this is what that is and would John. I think the challenge here is your like Dana. Says he's got an unfinished business. Dominic Reyes heavyweight. Okay that's fine then. Would Jam black witch know the rest of the division John has fucked up a lot in his career. It's still has managed to be undefeated. With the exception of the decoy loss programs and lost Dmitri. Johnson's pound for pound was paid like bet but I think John is a little bit different in the sense that his outside of the octagon persona is kind of would sales because if I remember correctly him and Kobe did do a million trying to remember. I believe so and I think a fight within town who had heavyweight promoted right do extremely well which leads to the next question is about the beginning shows. How much are these guys really getting paid? Well I look at that. Mcgregor number and see John. Jones wants to move up to fight at heavyweight against God who I see John. Jones disclose persons are only five hundred thousand his highest disclose per five thousand whereas also ovary has a guaranteed under fifty thousand dollars for Firewall Harris. No sympathy no four fifty. Five fifty did knocked out by garden. And if I'm John Jones I'm like there's a fucking problem here. 'cause looks like grossly underpaid no matter what you're paying me under the table which the problem is with these fighters don't tell anybody and they start complaining about how much they get paid. And then when Dana White do what he did on today's grown and says John Jones and s for Deontay wilder money and kind of laughed it off like twenty five or thirty million will. Do these guys get paid. All I know is in disclosed. Pay is grossly underpaid and I know. A lot of guys are grossly underpaid. It's I don't know John is should get so necessary. Think he's wrong for asking for more than what he's been getting for this particular fight. It's the most dangerous five greer by far. I just don't know. Where's the Bar Man? I don't I don't know what the bar is. Like the five hundred Cain it but what is I think John Jones versus God does pretty good paper numbers. I think it might do the best pay per view numbers John Jones career closer Corbin. Yeah I guess. I know. He's underpaid about that. That's not a debate. He's underpaid for his skill set for what he brings to the table but he brings to the UFC. But then again. I look at it and I say you don't know if he's going to be here tomorrow right know like in the NFL your transgressions off-the-field way into your next contract. They hold this against players all the time. If I can't count on you to not fuck up not getting arrested not it pregnant women which car etc etc. I really can't make you. The highest paid person in our sport disclosed. Just it. It's A. It's a tough slope. I got a hold that against them. It's tough but but you the president that the US's continued to do is reward bad behavior kind of got rewarded for enough Dolly through a window in his highest payday. When he's two things he to a Dali any `push old man face he punched an old man interface possibly raped somebody where we're talking about real. I mean that's possible. I'm just saying upset. There are legal. They're legal issues that to around you have the dispatch and cell phone. I mean the Cajun to at the Kirby fight that he was involved in that was jumping over sure what connor was doing prior to that that led to all this. I mean he's doing this. It is a big deal but when you reward somebody for bad behavior and if John I'm going to be on behavior and you keep letting them back this kind of your fault like when you let it go too far love. Houston children but we let it go too far and you try to reel them back. The it's too late. The kids like fuck. You already done everything else. How you gonna try to really baggy now. You didn't punish me when I did that. You gave me more ten more toys when I did this. You give me more. You let me back in. I pop a failed drug tests. You let me back in. I'm UCLA heavyweight champion again. Light Dana White made it clear. He's the best in the world despite his mess. Ups when you tell somebody yet you give them leverage and this is the part that sucks is the UFC. Runs this unilateral thing. Where it's just like you're really know like the Goshi fight and nothing like that. It's just like here's WanNa pay you and there's no union. There's no Ali Act. There's none of this if this anybody who is so weird to say this anybody that has a high enough profile that can campaign for fighters to get better pay an equal opportunity to pay your sponsor. Whatever it is is John Jones he could be the Guy Right now. Says I fighting like I'm out? You know what if he would've fought like say he's like okay. I'll take yom block of each whatever. Beat him if he gets. The heavyweight title is a champ champion. Says I'm out that holds more weight than what he does. Now he's like oh I'm holding division hostage hostage and I'm out until I get paid for deserve just very possible trip. I mean he had to take at this point. I feel like John. He's not poke right. He's made good money. Could he make better money? Yes kinda McGregor. It's never going to buck the system. Because he is the system and he's the exception not the rule box to him. Yes fine he's ever take stand for other fighters that's just now. O'connor's going do John Jones. A hand is paid in the same realm as other people even though he's the best fighter in the world and even though he's for a lot of one the most recognizable fighters in the world. He's not like a tremendous trove with people know who John Jones is if he were to say like finding like I need to. I need disclose pay. Anita disclosed persons to be higher. We need a fighter unit. So everybody's getting paid okay. John I think John can spirit like 'cause Doom Leslie Smith like jeans. She can't do it like fighters who fight like the prelims can't do you need A. He's I think John Joe's he's accomplished so much in his career where I think if you're never find again he could be cold like he's a cop. There's really nothing left for him to do in the light heavyweight division cool and it's like a one word or from them a ton of money. He's just cash out. Keep winning in a retired. He really has nothing left to prove and he could take a stand if he wanted to. He could try to go on box if you wanted to be like go to boxing and box. Don't pay no. It's not but for a payday. If he wants money he can go and box. He has name recognition to do so very easy he go in there. What crews wait to a five if you wanted to? He's pieced up in Boston. I that's a. that's a payday. More than he he'd get what he's asking for from the UFC if you went in there and wanted to box so I mean he has options. That's that's always the key. He has option. So we'll we'll see what comes out of that in the John Jones Saga. We actually have a card this weekend. I don't know if I'm calling. Us Vegas. I don't know what the Hashtag is yet. it could be USC apex because it's the first one being held at USC Apex Facility in Vegas and we'll just go through the main card real quick. Just make predictions talk more about the main event when we get there between Taiwan tyrant Woodley and Gilbert Burns. But so starting off. Mackenzie is back for Hannah ciphers. Mackenzie dern made wait the easiest. She's ever done our life after coming back from having a child. It was a tough fight. She took her first loss. But I think I learn more from that first loss than I did in any of her wins and she showed toughness to me and I think this is a better fitting fight for her. I'm going to take Mackenzie dern to win. She's only twenty seven easy again. By the way great for being focused she had no focus earlier. Now it seems like she had a Kid. She has focused. Yeah I you know. Hand ciphers has just lost. Anc Hill during this great jujitsu practitioners. He seems motivated seems focus Losing fight kind of was I mean. Do she bounced back from having a baby like I'm not a woman I have no idea how this shit is shows like two months after yes like. She's nuts for doing it so I think she wants this fight It's GONNA be interesting. Because they try to book Mackenzie during the next big thing and she just hasn't panned out to be anything remotely hosted that so maybe she can have a quiet run and then make a name for herself. I feel like she can still be a star to Ken but I think it needs to be quietly. Like don't push her trying to like lead her just win a few fights and this clean it up like okay she is. Let's go. Let's start the engine like can't do the sage's North Korea next big thing is fuck see. This is a complete different scenarios. But when you were talking about DOJ cat in our previous episode where someone just needs to remove her from the limelight. Real quick letter like chill. Get Her wits about her teasers. From Shea and then quarterback I feel like Mackenzie dern did that in a way better way but she was removed because she was having a child she just thought it was the first time in her life so she was like what seven she didn't have to compete into. Jitsu or an ma she just got a chance to breathe and then now she's back in issued. Like I'm doing this because I love this so I think it was perfect pause for so I expect a lot out of her still so it's cool. I can see this fight that we have Roosevelt Roberts versus brock. Weaver all right Give Me Roberts going based off of just pure stats like who's GonNa keep pace me. Robert is six two six foot weaver. He has one loss. Weaver has four. It just makes sense. Why I don't see Roberts is six to one fifty five yes. He's very very tall out. Work tall lightweight. So I'm going to pick the way today. One person must wait. No I believe it was a broccoli. Miss wait okay. I thought it was in that fight cool but it was my like one point five pounds the shovels on and then we have spike. Carlisle versus. Billy quarantine will I just like spikes name fuck it. He's four years younger to me. This card is is a little thin but this is where we're going to get. We're going to be entertained. It's the fact that they're having cards cool. And a lot of these fights between people. We don't know as much to me leads to better fights is like the other fights watching apex. What does that Dana White's looking for a contender? Whatever contender series. Get some good fights. There feel like this should have the same buzz. So give me Spike Carla. Yeah I want. Take Billy Corsican No particular reason I mean he fought couple time no one time contender series So yeah this. Do this car this car in when we get to. Ufc Two fifty wichita about next week man. Not good this one to me. This one is fine for being on. Espn quenching people's thirst. I think to fifty is the perfect opportunity to have a number card on regular. Espn was GonNa you pay per view and who the hell is going to be. Pay Per view. But I think if there's times to adjust this quarantine is time to adjust to try shit to experiment and to have a numbered card on regular. Espn which just make it? Feel special and I think it would pop big number just because it felt special and I think it should you know I think that should have been the call nonetheless. It's going to be on pay per view. We'll talk about that next weekend. Ivankov Nov versus car. I Know I've Nov taking him heavyweights throwing like listen. I see a familiar name this. He's only five nine to fifty. He's throwing bombs. I've if I remember correctly he lost a split decision to Derek Lewis. I remember he got peace. Well piece of lost Gino Santos. I'm actually taking us a Chi- in this fight I've always had some tough tough ice. Not believe I remember correctly. I've had a nice little running in L. and world series of fighting as well but be to Vassar. Be Ben Rothwell. Beat some guys. Yeah but I'm looking at the KYW and the only person car's check Congo granted he's beaten like ASCII which he probably shouldn't win that fight But I I don't care I feel like this is going to be a quick knockout or a exhausting slugfest. Not even exhausting. Slow paced fight fair. I hope it's ending in like three minutes. But that's all everybody fights right but no. I've an obvious historically going to decision so I don't expect a knockout really. We'll see hopefully when you see everybody's on the car. It means fireworks. This one is probably going to distance. But it's only fifteen minutes and then we get to the main event tyrant relievers Gilbert Burns. It's weird right because tire rim. I thought was perfect for Liane Edwards. They had some words but Edward stopped because travel ban. Go Burns had run. I just don't know if Gilbert's really ready for he look good against Damian Maya but I don't know what my is at this point guard Nelson gave him a nice little logo at it. He wanted decision but that was a good fight and then outside of that is resumes pretty slim so this is a big step up for yet. I'm picking Tire Woodley. I just I'm picking Woodley to if he lets his damn hands go. You don't gotta belt. Don't be timid. Go back to the regular time. And I've Kinda giving him a pass for the men fight as much he said his like Shit. Just wasn't clicking. I kind of feel that way and I think that kind of helped as well and the reason why I picked Williams fight with anything else because Yeah Burns Damian. So what Burns last loss was Dan Hooker. He's been on a nice little run. He's looked really good. But I look at how what Tara Willie did it there until and I think that time will come out to play because like when he fought to people like he's a giant. He's going to give a hard time and Rutley just mauled and I think I don't know if you'll mall you'll burns but I think between the embarrassment of getting pretty much snuffed out by the fact that you need to win the fight you're Kinda fucked in this division in. It's like you're in a position where it's like go home because if you don't win you know these guys like Maskhadov that you can fight like this this opportunities but you have to win this fight and when push comes to shove people forget how good is. He's a great strategist as well. He's a great game planner. Who just neutralize everything that he had. I don't think you'll be burns says that I don't think so either I think Woodley's just matter and thirty eight years old. You can look if you like as father time creep in only fought twice since twenty seventeen as one a year. Count this one. It gets dicey to be slowing down at this point of your career but is there may so no people I mean. Dental Cormie is fine into his forties. So I I think Woodley so has more in the tank and I think it's a big jump up for Gilbert Burnsville taking lead by stoppage Give me like third round though not like quicken early. But we'll he's gonNA catch his US and I and I think it's over. I think you're right on that one. it man. That's that's pretty much our show for today. Though we said we come back with some combat sports. We gave people a nice fifty minute episode on boxing. We made a bet. It's been fun. I'm a finish off the rest of his Crown Royal Peach and my white clock a not yet tips. Even though dre thinks I am I want to say shot out to the sponsors shout out to blue wire that network. Blue a you know. We don't got the ad read all right now. You guys know what it is. Use the Promo Code and follow us on twitter at Corner podcast. Underscore me at Danby him. Add entrees hail until next week talking tonner pro wrestling next week? We're out pace.

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Hour 2: Floyd Mayweather

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

35:30 min | 1 year ago

Hour 2: Floyd Mayweather

"The Roy's realm makes its return filled with proclamations in about fifteen minutes. It's very popular and I guess now I would probably be a good time because a whole lot of people right now our new around here because of some recent doings and so I'd like to explain what our show is <hes> for the next thirty minutes so that you can laugh with us. We don't often do this because we're a bit of a spoof of sports radio. Show and many of us are ourselves but also the weirdest loudest most annoying volume volume turned up version of ourselves yeah. When Dan made this mistake he was only acting congratulations j. girl because your fly girl? You're still fly girl now so mike hates when I explained the show and he should hate when I explained the show. I don't want to ever explain the show do you. Although I would've loved to explain last week why it is billy was in front of that camera for a minute looking scared and all of you think he looks scared because he was scared and he was scared but he couldn't hear anything. I was saying not word of what I was saying he could here. He didn't even have his eye of being. That's just how he looks all the time scared and so the debate always rages on in here inclusive or versus exclusive. It's a it's a the truest Louis criticism of our show. It sometimes feels to inside. It's an inside joke and you have to listen to it and you're incentivized to listen to it to get their jokes all over the place. You may get some of them. You may not get others of them but just know that all of you who thought that billy and do God's looks scared and I just regret that any viral clips of me aren't with me and a costume because one day I want one of these clips to go viral with no explanation with me you went gumby viral and so people think that billy this is going to be really funny to the people who like this. Show people think that billy was running off the set because he was scared and that's not the he he was being told to get back to Harry Butts to get. That's what Harry Balls Harry every balls at the fine yeah. You can understand why you made me wait a minute. What that that Eh you control this thing I mean you control source the forces you tempted but that that were explaining the show yes well? I WANNA it can laugh at myself is the point because a lot of people don't think I can that. I'm to impact to it all right and maybe I if you're listening to our show for the first time Harry balls is a former Fort Wayne. Indiana needed some explaining that theme Music Music Forces beyond our control that sometimes randomly as whenever appears whenever a magistrate of content. That's the theme song and we have to go to answer a question. That's in there all right so anyway. Just you need to know that students was watching golf during that clip. He wasn't paying any attention no idea what was listening anything I was saying if you were to lose all five of your senses. How would you know if you truly alive so that is the question? It's very very difficult question. The question is you lose all five of your sense. You cannot taste anything you well hold on a second you want to name the five senses agility agility speed strength awareness and hands hands all hands team. What happens if you lose all that I mean if if you were lose all five of your senses? How would you know if you were truly alive? I I'm just can't myself breathe. I lose. I'm breathing but can I feel I noticed. How do you notice that you're breathing? How do you notice it? Oh man that's your allies. I mean how would you know. How do you know if you don't have any of your senses in your brain is working? This question is about the sole <hes>. Can you tell if you're alive. If none of your human traits are available the religious questions born this way I'm alive. I mean about that. I definitely not sure you have so I told did you guys before the greatest question ever as e._S._p._N.. Was Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilpon drew. Rosenhaus was their guests than Kornheiser asked him. Do you have a soul and Rosen houses. Answer was like typical agent talk. Oh Yeah I have a soul because I treat my clients well and we thinks more torturous being born with all the senses and at some point in your adult life losing all of them the SA- question or just being born without any other. It's using them yeah right age taste. Yeah you know what it is. The Adrian Peterson that is correct because the reason the Adrian Peterson stories making me sad that is not because he's a dope or because he didn't learn any of the previous lessons before him. The reason that makes me sad is the worst kind of poor to be is poor after you've been rich yeah like that's that's. That's the that I've I've told you guys that story that crazy story involving the Philadelphia Eagles where Dick for meal Leonard Toes lived in a stratosphere he was <hes> the owner of the Philadelphia Eagles and he lived in this stratosphere where he was spending big money a gambling tables and was suing casinos casinos because he gets so drunk that he wouldn't sign a signature correctly and he tried to get his money back and he went really br like broke broke and he's sitting in his mansion and they've taken all the stuff out of there and Dick for meal. WHO's trying to help him comes in and his saying into him? I got all your friends together. I got all your friends together. I know you're proud. I know you're proud but we want to help you. We raise ten million dollars to help you and his response was. I thought you wanted to help me like yes but that's where Adrian Peterson is. That's Adrian Peterson. How is he going to make the money that makes him a Ford? The Jamie Fox is coming to his party. Three hundred people flown in First Class. If that's how he's living it's going. It'd be hard to go to Rama noodles. I actually think it's worse to have been born without any of the sensations because say I lose all of them in my adult life. I'm still conscious right. That's how I know him alive. My consciousness and I have all these sensations mm stations that I recall in my memory that can borrow from if I'm just born into the world without it. That's no way to live. Let's add is it. That's a but if you've got your consciousness and you're in a Komen. You're being kept alive by machines but you're saying judge Eh Pero the Black Mirror episode. I wasn't thinking of that but thank you great soundtrack. Elon musk is trying to put chips in our brains. You know what I'm Don. Hold on a second. I'm done with the magic creative. Condo never be this is yes. It is is a great question. Maybe we can get back. I will agree that the magic creative content was indeed magical in that circus. Okay we all agree. We agree that once you had a party with cameras you can't go back to having parties without camel hamels stuff. You should put that on the poll at Lebatardshow once you've had a party with cameras. Can you go back to parties without cam and why is that true for most things it's it's worse if you experience it and it had it ripped away but not true with love <hes> the re this is very we're going very deep. Thank you Mike because you know you're alive because you have a soul and you have love <hes> but what I was beginning to explain or trying to begin to explain before fear gripped me and the staff is that his better to have love and laws than to never have loved it all about that. These show aim free time for some ads. How was his how that Dylan thing? He uses hefty bleeping times. He doesn't have any other moves. He's how does the greatest quotes ever stopped it. I'M GONNA keep. Going to it Jordan mid range jumper that the D. Wade pump fake ever that my point is look. Look at the environment we have around the reason. It's been this way for the last thirty minutes. If the Kareem abdul-jabbar Skyhook that James ordered step back you should start you should start actually trying to do it in different tones like speaking it in like you're working on your game like your work like saying it differently but it's a mark burly pickoff move the point being that we can laugh at ourselves around here for you newcomers and the greatest example. I have of that recently that I haven't been allowed to get to the last thirty minutes because we've had too many device inside jokes in the show that we had to get to like cody is that I'd like to spend the rest of the show making fun of this congratulations j. girl because your fly girl you're still apply girl. I want to get back to that. I can't do it next though because we got more gimmicks that we're going to have to explain an interesting creature inhabits the flat arid planes of many an automobile dashboard the bobblehead it's most agreeable and will not along to anything despite having of brain function but when the bubble had his how GEICO not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to Geico is a no Ukraina glad easy. You can get whiplash Donlevatar. Some people might think that I love. You are the three best words together for me. That's not what the three best words together are still God's three best words together are Stugatz just making a point and going. How's that sound or a derivative? How about that as my favorite here you can eat some of this? How `Bout that house? How is that sound it's I? I don't think there are three better words in the language. I think you guys noticed man like and how about that. V._C.'s live at our show with his two guys on E._S._p._N.. Radio Mike Mike you want to explain this or are. We don't explain things around here. We Wanna be exclusive not inclusive. We just do things when they're ready to be done. We don't explain them so here. We go ladies and gentlemen. It has been awhile since we did this on the radio. It is time for Roy's realm splendor gene down. Now is your sovereign Supreme Royal Highness eating. I will breath. I Miss Hockey hockey was that was that it said hockey wit. Stop playing hockey because we've medieval times. Just throw things out there. A bunch of Medieval folks right mckean. Yes what else happens in hockey that we might like even four goals header heating as the puck the PUCK. I don't really know but there's jousting jousting on salt shops rate and what was this. There's a team called the nights. Yes that's a cheap. Those night's golden wouldn't play in the Kingdom of Las Vegas City of seem to be banished GALACTICA MO- as gets married at the end of the week guys Westchester take proclamation favorite part. Yes this is Mike King issues and order that all of you mouth breathe those must fun the extended their the automation and I don't know what I'm sorry people on the highway trying to cheese lanes before the REC- Chrissy exit highway changing lanes free high varies on the road passageway for the horses and carriages and such street one that makes rules it does who are trying to get on exit at the last second. I will not let you in front of me of course because you like no no so you guys instead of it has been well since we've done this on the radio tuning signal highway expressway haven't vintage so many ways. Let's congratulations to Tim Duncan on becoming the assistant coach forty Antonio Spurs Timothy Dunkin. He was born three years before I was born. I loved him. He's always been a sperm believe it or not even Medieval Times Popovich and Tim Duncan have been around for yes. Yes yes the Weird Tennessee that never went back to back in your mind. Does that affect how you regard them. As one the great it does actually is manage nobly hall of fame account what he did on the international level. I believe the proclamation implementation is rather practice on that chant a lot of don't need practice for that fatty her shallow Hal Lee takeover. It's getting sloppy. You should get help as bleed talk about you. Entry in the trailer came out for a Beautiful Day in the neighborhood. WHO WHO TOM wait a second boy blade? What is blade I laid is a fictional character into a movie all right and West? It's a blacksmith explain. The batch one drill came up beautiful day in the neighborhood uh-huh. Tom Hanks as Fred Rogers. What when asked how about that so he wins the asking price Oscar surprise one of your servants? No no seven is a guy named Oscar. Give it to Misa hanks in appreciation for Likability as proclamation formation the best uniforms in sports launched into Chicago Blackhawks home and you don't think it's on the line no native American face a proud. Native Warrior I'm standing up but it's also tune of one different flesh tones feels like you could easily make an actual hawk. That is the colored black. We don't need to keep putting phases of indigenous people are Jerseys Saudi Astro Coats in blows the Cleveland Indians and that was that was okay. Cleveland Indians got it that one was over the top we all for whatever reason is just accepting and it makes twenty nine hundred and in the Washington racial slurs dismal. There's a few blackhawks lying under the crowd NATO lawyer really are wait a second. What what I'm saying character? I'm blaming coach. There were three alison. There are three emmy nominations snubs that <hes> really made me angry. The nominations came out rea- seahorn from better call sell Komo Alden in Iowa cash as well yeah. I'm very it doesn't sound angered at all like at all then we'll al-Din for better things in cash from iota works ignited claiming yes. I was angry with the very yes yes listen industry proclamation okay great sending it's what we call that in the fees that's what I said quickly be desired away E._S._l.. Of Tea on China interesting right now in his proclamation okay here. We go get the timing. Let's do the grilled. Cheese is the best especially with that right. Embraced debate is what I always say so it should be I soon and petered out there that is all Donlevatar Ron Carter Vice beat Cam Manetti in terms of rugged hand. I think so what about Derek Bell. I don't think I mean we're talking device lies and Ken Committee. I don't think Derek Bells in that conversation. How Morris how about Mo Vaughn Mo Vaughn might be in the conversation? Good one doesn't have rougher Hanson how Morris Sean Casey effort fans what maybe Stugatz good take my good strong. Take on that you know what is usually followed by an opinion the mayor. I feel like the mayor had soft hands I do I do too. I think they're A._B._C.. habe soft gentle caressing hands yeah. I believe that to V._C.'s Zedong Lebatardshow with two guys on E._S._p._N.. Radio did Saturday's result make you think that the one thing left to lure floyd mayweather out of retirement is manny Pacquiao the fight that that would that would pay there has been in the history of sports. There have been very few business mercenaries like Floyd Mayweather <hes> he he values money. He's nicknamed money. A he shows off his money last video I saw him. He had one point eight million dollars laying around in his house and he was showing off the biggest cartier bag in the world. It was just one point eight million dollars. There were the twenties over here and the hundreds hundreds over there the way he burns through money. Though does he really value it or does he just like it because he doesn't seem to value money at all like he'll just hand people fifty thousand dollars to sit on their beach chair. I feel like if he's thousand dollars. It's ten thousand dollars evaluating your money. Billy is right there. I mean he likes money. Okay Fair enough. Put It on the poll. Guillermo at lebatardshow Floyd Mayweather. Does he like money or does he value money. You got me thinking of who are the biggest mercenaries in sports and I Google rule dead and I'm just shocked. I don't know why I'm going to research this but the tennis player Monarto Mitch on this list not find out more. It's who who do they do do like Kurt flawed or Daryl rebus for example Rivas was reverse was a mercenary are scenario urban Meyer mercenary like where you're just hiring somebody from the expendable and you're paying them your soul and you're like win me something yeah they say Carmelo and you can understand why he he doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to him if he damages is the team that he's going to he wants at Max. Extension never really took a discount. Do you think that Floyd Mayweather is a drawn out of retirement by Manny Pacquiao winning his eighth his title his title in an eighth weight class. I think Floyd Mayweather drawn out of retirement for just a big paycheck well. I guess what I'm asking you set it up. This paycheck is what I'm asking the we saw this lame really disappointing. They're just going to say oh. Manny wasn't right that time and they're gonNA try to sell you on this. This time it'll be better more action packed because Manny's right and look he's a champion despite how they you know they can. <hes> you know manicure these things in a way they can finesse these way classes in a way to make Manny Pac L. A. Champion and we've seen many patio firearm out the same but Thurman Thurman talked so much before that fight and his style was particularly not conducive to what pack yeah does which he's so why the pack yeah I was hidden in ten times before he's gotten one of those cannons off off and that guy that guy it was legitimate fight or pack Yao in his forties Beata legitimate fighter beat beat them for the title. Nobody's saying nobody thinks Thurmond got robbed I but the endgame is obviously considering the social media strategy and it's not like we're not stupid. This has been the endgame Manny Pacquiao Floyd Mayweather to and the Mike we are stupid. We just paid for McGregor Mayweather that was glow Whoa Whoa whoa back lasak up and they're not gonNA put Patio and the ring with someone that can actually beat him occasionally. You'll have Andy Ruis like ruined set plans for mega fight but typically you got to put guys in the ring against Manny Pacquiao when the game is a rematch with floyd mayweather with guys that he can beat. That's what happen here and take my money because the super fight and it's fun. I'll bring the beers. I'd rather see Bieber Tom Cruise all that's a good question right there. Which would you rather see at Lebatardshow Pack Yeah Mayweather or Bieber Tom Cruise? I think BIEBER got scared. Though he backed off he did not by the reports that I was reading. Bieber was a person that was a main catalyst of this and was working phones with Dana White behind the scenes teams reported. Where is Dana White? We were supposed to have him today at noon. I WANNA ask him about this. Where is he? I'd ask him MHM worries at but he's not joining us in so I don't know what happened. We still don't know whether it's rescheduled. You can ask them where he was today. Next FRY okay next Friday. We will ask him about because the Justin Bieber. Tom Cruise fight if we're just GONNA fool around with this stuff mayweather McGregor was a circus act. Why wouldn't you make this the Circus Act? Why wouldn't it's E._S._P._N.? Plus now. You don't think people would gather around E._S._P._N.. Plus if Tom Cruise was fighting Justin Bieber. I actually think that might be the super fight like the superpipe. The Super Fight Bieber had now that ruis ruined everything by taking out Joshua. I think the super fight might actually be what Christmas just saying there crews against Bieber aside from Vigdis over the rock after that and there's a beat this was just a concoction that we dreamed up between Bieber and cruise rock diesel real legitimate beef and he had to create separate projects under the same umbrella just because they couldn't be seen together. You guys agree with Dan. Do you feel like mayweather. McGregor was a clown fight. I don't I macgregor had him on the ropes and he did. I thought he was GONNA win. Yeah so this guy's disproving that it's stupid what you're doing right now that that was stupid that was good. You can admit that that was fun those a fun nine months saying it's not fun but we that's what we're doing boxing expert. Oh there wasn't Jill especially some so in Mr Whatever we talked boxing all the sudden he becomes you know he becomes boxing. aficionado weird. You Square up like the Notre Dame logo pugilist specialist. You see what work was not as. Well how long lineage of bare knuckle fighting in the streets of Ireland Donlevatar you guys don't think that I would lose a fight against gene hackman but you do think I'd lose one to Clint Eastwood Rush you lose to hack into you. GotTa be honest with Yeah Stugatz. That doesn't mean I can't fight now. My fighting game has been. I haven't used it in about nineteen here. I mean have you ever seen every which way but loose man he would kick your tail. I mean if he brought the ranting. We just throw a handful of gluttony neuron. You'd be like cheating. Throw things at gene. Hackman doesn't play fair. You know he does not come on guys guys. What do you mean I can't win a fighting on across Gene Hackman look at his base man? It's such an angry face seriously he would take you out to the woodshed. These live with our show with two guys on E._S._P._N.. Radio how old oldest Gene Hackman now is he retired. Did he retire without fanfare because he's gotTa be close to ninety and Clint. Eastwood is somehow still trying to make movies. I mean Hackman is eighty nine years old. <hes> who's WHO's <hes> age stunned you. I mean J. Girl. She's fifty today. Let's get back to that. I would love to so earlier in the show. I said this congratulations J. Girl 'cause you're fly girl. Oh you're still apply girl and I don't think she'll get a better happy birthday today. I really big girl because your girl you're still fly girl. I really there's nothing Iraq you do aron. I know you've got the big contract ed boy but you will never be as graceful and casual and smooth Zion Congratulations J. girl because your fly girl you're still apply girl. That's exactly how it would do it if I was trying to do it in a way that going to be funny congratulations J. Girl 'cause you're fly girl. You're still apply girl however that was not on purpose that was just general fear around me congratulations J. Girl 'cause you're fly girl. You're you're still apply girl. I if this needs some context just no. This is how I talk when I'm afraid congratulations J. Girl 'cause you're fly girl. You're still apply girl that Jay girl transition to fly girl okay that nervous wreck gracefully Jaylo ages. Here's Dan at the same age congratulations J. girl girl. You're still doing better than I diane. Have you thought about reaching out what do you think A. Rod is going to <hes> just inundated her with gifts and then immediately call page six and and tell them off the record occurred off the record. I bought her a rainbow <hes>. They don't really actually have they don't don't they don't have the technology for it yet but I talked to somebody at Apple I gotta deal and I bought her a rainbow. They do enjoy this power couple stuff they they do seem to revel in it and and you know what it's part of the appeal honestly for me when a lot of power couples they try to shy away from the light and keep their private life private not this duo well who does that mean Dwayne Wade and Gabrielle Union do this while they let us into their bedroom. Yes who else does this one other Powell's coil and it's a good way for them to evolve their little bit out of the Social Social Media Age right in terms of what it's a good way for them to evolve everything they are. I feel like Russell Wilson and Sierra doing that to a degree. John Legend in Chrissy Teigen's very again. One is Russell Wilson actually participating very much in that because I I don't follow him on social media because he's not someone whoever says anything interesting <hes> in my experience so is he is he actually playing along because the quarterbacks usually avoid all that stuff the quarterbacks don't want any of the stuff that can get into their life from social media other than Baker Mayfield to apparently doesn't mind signed fighting with people. I find interesting I am here in two thousand nineteen for the quarterback who with a wink in a smile doesn't mind being a troll like Baker Mayfield knows exactly what he's doing to Colin cowherd knows exactly what he's doing. He's just going both ways. Yes both of those guys. That's that is a wrestling skit what's happening between Colin Coward and Baker Mayfield and do not let anyone tell you otherwise they are doing wrestling. Those are not real feelings. I wish we can find. I wish we could feud with Baker Mayfield hand. I mean we feuded with everyone. Who can we do this with? I would love to break. We'd have to go the other way. You'd Mitch Trubisky that one well. Let's fight Mitch trubisky risky. We're enemies now. Deal with it. Yeah trubisky your overrated. Yeah learn the throw more accurately on the run pal what kind of names Dubinsky I can't win. A championship with my quarterback named your Bisky you get to the N._F._l.. Among just supposed to call you Mitchell you're Mitch Mitch Pillar Mitch. I can't win a quack. Put on the poll Guillermo. Can you win a super bowl with a quarterback named Mitch. I don't think he's ever been done also appreciate you leave in U._n._C. or killer. All right hasn't Mitch ever won anything as a Mitch everyone anything put that on Nepal Gamut Lebatardshow you eat hot dogs Weird Mitch guys. Let's bet we got him. We are going to bury him. Let's inside a a real fight with Mitch trubisky which is much Lamer than the one Colin cowherd has with Baker Mayfield. That's much better one. Would you not agree bitch. Gaylord is a gold medalist. Oh that's right eighty four Olympic team I did. I know that so you accused me of having the weird wheelhouse of boxing you accuse me of being the weezer great time in the mid eighties for men's gymnastics. It's the first thing you've got right around here. In about two decade remember a former gymnast dad a bar connor. It was really one of the Great Olympic teams of all time tremendous that always buy Ford the weirdest line that you had a day. Let's examine this for a second. Let's examine all of this for a second <hes> what just was stu gods trying to flex his Mitch Gaylord Muscle what just happened there where he snuck in with just a random Mitch Gaylord fact and then fled the premises he was like Magic Olympics. Those eighty four games were magical man they really were you had car Lewis Breaking breaking records and the one hundred you had Edwin Moses. It was a great time for sports in the United States less time you paid attention in a way that retain things in sport. I believe so yeah yeah the men's gymnastics team you had the women's gymnastics team that both both won gold yet individual goals for Bart conner mainly retin L._A.. It was an amazing amazing Olympic Games. The eighty four Olympic gains the greatest Olympic Games of all todd. You remember I would Moses Right. I Eddie Johnson decathlon. What is going on right now? I am sorry that never before. Have I done this. The show you WanNa do Mike Scrap everything we had planned for the twelve o'clock hour and let's do nothing but Olympics talk from nineteen eighty-four because God's has been dying weirdly have this show and finally the repression has come out. Unfortunately I fear that he gave us everything he had right there. He doesn't have another word to offer. They had it in the L._A.. Coliseum you had I think it was muhammed. Ali who took me final torch and now it's a slew of Olympic Bakery and lousy him Jamaican bobsled team the Yamaguchi they of course Jesse Owens who can forget that is broad had strug stick the landing and Bella Corollas there to lift her out but it was amazing. We won that Hog Championship at nineteen eighty at lake placid okay. Do you believe in miracles. Yes Michael Summer Games. Get you believe they played that game. Most people think they play that game in winter say they played it outdoors at L._A.. Frederick Vic- added offense garnered duct on him in an auto policy from state farm gets you collision coverage and his radio ads from state farm gets you coverage of this beloved nineties hits.

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Sitting Ringside Ep. 48

Sitting Ringside

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Sitting Ringside Ep. 48

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This is episode number forty is always on your host Robert via and with me my boys, ardal jumper and David. Rodriguez. And her baddest producer the world. Rudy Lara, how's it going fellas? Good brother how you doing? I'm good. Man Yoyo. Good Rob has always. That Inter always homeless me up dude. I can see. I know the viewers can't see you or hear you. Can we always see Jammie to the intro? Man. Though speaking of the Intro I'm sure you all saw the brave intro before show the president of brave combat approved. So that's pretty bad ass. He loves it. So mom shut out you really for making that happen. Guys we have a cool show today ready to be talking about you see on ESPN nine. All the stuff that went through that event, and then also we have this weekend we have to fifty. And then we're also going to have our gas ma boy Florida's is a ring announcer four. PBC. He's also done I believe some top rank I believe I i. really don't remember. I know he's The for PBC. He's done some MMA MMA events. I actually was at the then when he was reading announcing for the Canal Overseas Kirkland events so it'd be pretty cool guys. Dogging to love Ray his he's pretty bad, ass. Boxing, any better than alright Flores Heli data. Exactly. Quick shout out to fight TV We are going to be on their news feed though all our articles, all of our. Stuff that we published was going to be featured on onto their website as well. As always, you know our show is on there. Live right now. Shutout to brave and to the other promotions are where affiliated with. Guys. You'd see on ESPN nine went down last weekend. WHOA hold up hold up. Didn't you WANNA start off with little John Jones News. That's what I was. GonNa say wait a minute what he's doing. Hey. I WanNa talk about let's talk about it. So I saw you know, i. went onto his instagram. I saw the video of just a nice little article about what he was doing with those kids grabbing the spray cans. He's trying to do good trying to put. His name out there. Trying to show people that it's not always all the bad. We need to show all the good. Did you guys is point on that and. I'm not scared to say it live I don't care. And I get my ass is the international airport somebody. I think it would stayed. It seems a little lake. I I don't I mean it may have happened I'm not saying it didn't really happen but I mean the ironic. That camera just happened take these perfect. It's there's Of Him peacefully you know. Stopping some non-peaceful people. I mean don't get me wrong if John Jones came up and I was messing up his AAC Yik with fucking up I'm GONNA. Hand him no spray game but yet Donald Donald Sie beef I asked. Only I gotTA. Spray, painted. Frame in. The is run off on me. There's a lot of. I mean I. I don't I don't think it was as real. As as as they're trying to make to be, I, think there's a little. conspiracy theory in there was this a staged or was this not not wanna say. staged. Because we know Dr John Jones is a very his he's downtown Albuquerque quite a lot i. mean you know what I mean Albuquerque night they know John Jones and he happened to be down there and along the lines of this situation where yeah. Ironically like magically there is a camera right there whether it was buddies or somebody that knew him or whatever. But. They. Don't they knew the Guy But honestly though that that being by maybe possibly stage thing. You know get some you know whatever gets the name keeping get John's been in the news a lot for. L.. The contract negotiations but Albuquerque News Rob you seen it. I think the next day. John some guys Jackson Week were down there. A couple of businesses that didn't get. Robbed or possibly burn down and others a lady. I can't remember the business name but she thinks on Jones and It had the Koa News crew down there. So I I, think that part of course. That they were they're doing it. You know stop some some random people trying to whatever the new nowadays break in and steal everything what the hell their agenda is, but he'll be he'll be running for governor. I mean this helped become the Mayor Albuquerque. Easter on. He gets pulled over. Birds y'all y'all. y'All stop the riders. It's the. People, don't like the truth but like I said Don Jones is a very his presence known in downtown Albuquerque like when is they're not been an instance where Donald has been in trouble and has not been in downtown Albuquerque absolutely at this. Well you guys want to hear my theory on this. Yes I think. John, Jones was one spray painting he got caught and. These white nudes to film him stopping him stopping them. That's my theory. Actually look. Like. Kids. Lead stop. Watch watch tomorrow footage going to serve as men. If it does you really the profit if? It does I'm asking you live question. What's the meaning of live rooted? There's a different angle of different camera where you see the green pain on and. The different angle and there's a building. It says bones JOE's. He said not what what happened was someone tag my name and spray painting over so people will say I did. Were thing is to out with Jones I, mean, we're always hearing we here I mean we know what he is a Sport and then the legend that he is, but we constantly see you know outside of the cage stuff this being a positive because they're trying to stop motherfuckers from now ruining shitting downtown Albuquerque but he's always going to be judged You know what? I mean whether it's good or bad and people know elected all the shit that he's done. You know what I mean. So He's a guy that's constantly. Going to be judged even though he's one of the best to ever do it in the cage and as our John Jones the fighter like I said, he's been in the news waves for its contract negotiations beginning served seven million dollars to fifteen million to fight Franson gone. So that's what I want to get to next. You know his talk about you know the next move for John. Jones in the cage. The UFC we know they don't crack for anybody. I mean conor McGregor demanded stakes in the company in shares in the biggest draw you have ever seen and new adding this. Fifteen million dollar tax whatever to fight France's so that's why I wanna get your thoughts on going forward. Yeah. Long because. You know what happens for Jones next because him not in a cage we said it before. John, not, in a cage, you said at are going to end up in prison or lockdown. That him relinquishing the bell didn't he relinquished about this week or some? Shit. Yeah. Yeah. Well, supposedly he did but I mean it wasn't even there hasn't been officially announced the UFC. he's still in the rankings. So it's not like how who the where he's not in the rankings. Being John, Jones, filling the UFC Rican still. I think this is just A. Part of Jones Sir. Tactic to get that money. Goodbye. So yeah, like right now he's still like I, say stolen ratings he's still there. He he hasn't relinquished anything. You might say that he did but I think it's just all talk and do for for the UFC Dana white to say okay. Let's let's meet in the middle on how much you you WANNA get. Yeah. And what's he won fifteen to fight in Ghana? He didn't mention a number that I know war. Because he I remember him saying where he even told I forgot who told The he said that he never mentioned a number. He just said I want to get paid down to water money. Now you know he I agree with you I think all this. I'm relinquishing bells doing this I think. That's all just just a scare tactic. Not. Try to force them into. Paying him. we've seen this tons of times with athletes, spiders, whatever. Now will he get wilder money? No. No. Way Up see you have see won't pay anybody that Kinda that Kinda change. Could he? He could revenue that Kinda money though for them if he stepped up to heavyweight and fought someone that dangerous but like I said thousand times before if he did it, I think if he stepped up to fighting gone is the reason why he's wanting that super mega paydays because he knows how dangerous it dangerous it is the he may go in there and get knocked out. In Vietnam and if you've got knocked out in twenty twenty seconds, he knows how bad that would. Damage. His legacy. In. So He's won compensation for the possibility. Of this, that event to go the worst possible way? To. The UFC two they've known like I said, they don't budge. You're not into even with Jones. One of the best connor they didn't give Connor Shit that he wanted in. Connor I mean he's still the biggest raw right now. But I thought it was interesting that I think. Daniel. Cormie. said it up I mean these the ultimate nemesis of John Jones gave him Kudos credit for what was going Albuquerque but he did mention that the fifteen dollars or fifteen million dollar payday for wilder, Jones has said that he's been paid you know three to seven million dollars before. So anywhere in between there I think God DC said. He thinks the AFC would offer him give him like a seven million dollars thing to to move up to heavyweight. Gop Shins at light heavyweight. I think I think John has five or six fights left on his contract. So no matter how long does hold out last on either GonNa you know the in Ghana fight happens for like an interim heavyweight title that may happen or it's DC at a heavyweight bout of steep as long shelf until whenever I mean St Base still the undisputed chance so. I think both of those fights are the fights to happen and if it does John Make. John Moved. Then we gotTa Dominic Reyes Yon Block a which the light heavyweight title. Fight. Fresh You know moneywise. If he wants to make a big paper view like the lives wild bird theory like. Wants to make wilder money fifteen plus mail. It's GONNA to be against bay or in Ghana No. One's GONNA WANNA see no. I, mean people would wanna see we WANNA see. EMENDATIONS heavyweight. We wouldn't. We wouldn't mind that fi but that fights I mean, he's he regardless of the Asterix beside it is already to know. and. I mean he's still to no one dominated l you know regardless of the Asterik and so that's that's What's going to play a factor for it? I don't think it'd be DC IT'S GONNA be there Steve Bay or gone if he wants that Big Bay in I, think he would do it at ten Mil. I think that's where they're gonNA come into the Middle Browns I think they're gonNA hit a ten million dollar payday form. And then they hide fighter pay to data's even. Either that say that they like that you know the. Fighters Dan, write they hide I mean we'll never actually no I think the season got. Three hundred k. like that was his. Contract three hundred kfi in standard cormier when the best everybody said my fighting for three hundred K now. Definitely not. John Jones DC's probably making a million of fight. So John Jones I think he can probably get a five seven million dollar deal for the guy who fight. But it has to be the interim heavyweight belt it has to be. You know I've never understood. We're GONNA talk and money here. We're kind of Walt. This is the Wall Street Journal edition of Sitting Ringside. Speaking of money. I never understood how they'd never pay those guys more than a million dollars. Because realistically they're generating. They're generating. pay-per-view numbers. Like mayweather pay per view I mean, they're probably neck and neck on pay per view buys with mayweather pay per view. And you mean to tell me, floyd can take home a hundred million dollars in one night. In still pay his still pay his opponent twenty million. Fifty million and still pay everybody underneath him. Like the Kilmainham in all the all the pre fights. Damned some of them get into million of them not but none of them getting. You know twenty, five, thousand, one, hundred, thousand they're all polite scratch in that five, five, hundred, thousand plus the people under nate. And so I'm like, why can't? They do that. You know what I mean but word. Union. Yet, because we know connor changed the game when he came in and did what he did his rise to fame in him becoming the biggest draw he changed it up. You got a million dollars back in the day. Your name was probably Dart. saint-pierre and there's nobody else. Yeah I mean it's it's just sad if that happens that way because you got these guys that fight all their life to make it to that moment in the me, they're not reaping the benefits of the fruits of their labor as as well as they should be. A lego out it unless they go to some of these other. You know. Owners I take like brave who take care of their fighters. You, know they. They get that. They understand that. So that's that's. But. What what what me about that part is everyone only wants to mention you see as being the greatest now dr not. Somehow. nope. That's The Wall Street Journal edition entering not not in this day and age of how the. Mason has grown worldwide? especially. Now that that brave is the number one international. Promotion who takes care of their fighters. Even even when there's no events, they still take care their fighters absolutely absolutely home. So that tells you right there. The difference between an organization president and everybody under that umbrella. How they feel about their fighters. And what really means but what what is? Meaningful to them is the money or the fighters. So, brave sees sees the company as a as a company as an organization where they'd have to take care of their fighters because without the fighters, there's no brand. Yeah. So they. Are The show both short stories Yup. A brave fighter and he even mentioned. He sees the difference between how much takes care of him and his fighters. To how USC took care of him and the fighters and the staff or you know his his Coach in you know everybody else's Cornerman. That'll. That's fine. I just I love brave that because of that because of the mingles they have and they bring to the table. Yeah. Don't we have Carlos creamer talked so highly of them. And you know. His his biased but. He's wearing the he's been he's been. In this Buried longtime time. Just doesn't commentate breathe he knows smash global he doesn't epic fighting out in California. I believe some other ones so you know for him to seed what he said about brave I mean that just says a lot. And you can. You can tell another thing about the organization. By the way the people that talk about it. After they're doing. EV- everybody talks about it was you a paycheck But. When you hear you hear a lot of discomfort from a lot of fighters when they leave, you have seen I always tell people no disrespect to the UFC. But always tell people you have seen as the best in the United States. That's where I draw. You main because they're not granted their globe around the world watches from here. You know what I mean but like like you said best in the global is is brave. And like I said, but like I said, let's take care of them and like you said, they know without fighters, there's no shows. To at the moment, the way the USC is putting on these shows that they pack on the way they did the three event deal in Jacksonville in a white admitted there. Out A lot of money but these shows on. You know what I mean. So like it's like a gamble like we're talking about Dana White in the early days of the AFC with Pitas, they put a lot of money out there. They didn't make money for four five years in the game. So right now, they're just trying to be consistent trying to be back on. On and get to these big shows. Could I think they've yet to put on a really big show, and if this fight island thing is planned to do that I mean they've been booking fights every other day. But. Now out articles, fresh articles about matchmaking upon the outright might be putting out right now. You know. So there's fights happening the you've seen on pace like they're they're back by Dana said so but the plan for the big fights i. mean I know Rudy, you're down in Texas I heard Texas fifty percent in stadiums so. Half of Texas stadium with the McGregor to who might be you know that that's going to happen. I think eventually if if a Dana why decides Texas might be the spot you know what I mean. And you know. The SPA with realistically be. If. You take like the Houston Texans Stadium. Texas stadium down there where the cowboys are the Texans play. Those those stadiums alone one hundred plus thousand people so that. You in that's not that's hundred thousand in football. That you can fit fanzine. So that means that's not count, and there's not as many. There's maybe a hundred people out on the field. Taken back by close to two hundred close around the to fifty range on the film. you're looking at two hundred fifty. Jews there on the field, and then you take something like that input. At capacity when I went to Texas stadium I went to I went to the very first game at the new stadium and they set the record for most people in an. ETIQUETTE ETA NFL game with like one, hundred, twenty, four, thousand people. Hundred Twenty four thousand people. So you take something like that and you could probably if you put it UFC fighter the fifty yard line and Smack Dab in the middle you put the cage there you're fitting another probably three thousand people on on the field. That you're sitting you're sitting at a thousand, five hundred people and I guarantee you just go to show people would feel at the rest of that stadium. The rest of those big old jumbotrons lower down like they did for wrestlemainia lower those lower those. Screens down and run it people people would pay for. In another thing is you you wouldn't have to charge as much and I guarantee still generate more money because. Because, you'll fit more people. In A. Seventy thousand now, person arena because when you knock out the, you're going to add people too. So we're going to roughly say. Sixty five thousand people what's going to be in there in the Louis spacing apart, people would be would do it in sixty thousands of way more than they would generate sitting in Vegas. Yeah. 'cause yet the T mobile center I mean I, think it's like twenty five thousand twenty six. When I heard about that the governor announcing that they're allowing the fifty cent stadium I instantly thought big time fight Texas stadium or. In but if it's going to happen, it's going to be the. USC returning to a live event with fans. More than likely it's going to be Texas and last time they're they're they're pretty judging. People were criticized the commission, but it's going to get the back to advance having fans absolutely and the timetable is there. They got the fight island deal for next month in July. So maybe take place after that in. August. Maybe she gets a whole lot better than you're. Absolutely. Absolutely like I said we're. Were can you be at half capacity with that many people know you gotta get? Right on. So let's go ahead and welcome our guest. Ray Flora's. How's it going, brother? Ray. Could he can hear this? Well we can't see him. For some reason, he might be trying to. Figure that up I, Dunno. callback. You talking. Get been making the rounds on a couple of shows I've seen lately soak. He's been in the game for awhile and up talking boxing returning to mgm grand to as well. I'm sure that's a big plus in the boxing world in our low you know that in. Your to get him on and get his take on that because not only is Emma may have been back. Can We? Get back in the mix. We haven't found table on that as well. Absolutely. And you know I was going to mention David since you mentioned the Apex Center. You know. No matter what I want to give to the even though we kinda bash on them but. The are bringing enemy back. They are doing actually they're doing really really well. I love the way they're doing it at the centre with the interviews. Policy Yemen where the fighters are going to the interview section with the backdrop you know. Like doing the media scrum like dude old school outback. It too 'cause like. Yeah you get an interview sometimes Michael Bisbee steps in their interviews to three fighters throughout the night that this time around DC interviewing from top to bottom of the card, and it was cool to hear each fighter fresh off battle. You know fresh off a big win on the big stage either making their debut. On I mean I mean the fights were fucking killer like I enjoy this card I mean he ferguson I really enjoyed the first hard but this one I really really enjoyed pop the bottom. It's it's pretty bad, ass I. Just I love the way they're doing it man doing doing well, like I said, they're bringing back events. You know exactly what the fans want. All right. There we go. With Audrey. What's up guys how are you? Pretty good brother. The shows now? It's a pleasure. Join you guys. Yes. Sir Well, Ray we know who you are, but if you can tell the fans out there who you are. And who you compensate for and and tell us a little bit about how you started a compensating for these big promotions. So I worked for premier boxing champions. play by play commentator, a ring announcer for F s one, a showtime, a call, all the international law, the fights that are on Big Fox in on a review for premier boxing champions I do all the pay per views for them the international audience, a host press conferences for td promotions and. Do a lot of work for P. B.. C.. Also, very fortunate to be living here in southern California been involved in combat sports half my life I've worked for ARDY PALOLO is one of the guys that gave me my one of my first big breaks with banner promotions. He was promoted resent providing Bokov actually was fortunate to make my debut when it prevented called fought Lucas t say back in April of twenty. Fifteen. Work for golden boy promotions back in the day back in twenty eleven twenty, twelve and twenty thirteen I was. Filled in for Jomaa Tina's on their solo book sales series transition over to F s one, and then for to to do a lot of mayweather mayweather undercard. The highlight of my career has been to be a part of a mayweather McGregor tour. Get four cities in four days hosted the the press conference in London did all the in arena stuff for the entire tour on a been involved in the sport animation boxing half my life, a matchmaker when I was twenty years old northwest Indiana a worked with I don't know if you guys know Miguel Tortoise is the reason why I am where I am because you know he's from me Chicago Indiana my hometown and he started fighting locally. So I started follow him around and call in his fights for public access. TV In that bill to me meeting all these promoters M May. May Start off in the business I emma got into boxing. Then the rest is been history ever since in been with premier boxing champions coming up next month for the past five years. So it's been a wonderful journey and very thankful and blessed for all the opportunities I've been given. Awesome. Awesome. Now I remember. Back in two thousand fifteen when I was living in Houston. I waited covered my very first boxing event, which was Deacon Illovo over Kirkland. Fight. Verger voice I was like. That's Ray. So then took a picture of of you on the jumbotron bad. Yeah. Texas texting house like I see you bro and you're like, wait a minute. What are you? Ha. You're like. Get those messages late at night like two in the morning. Asser. Man. Just, to give you I, don't know you know Robert a quick story guys is that that day in Houston we started the fight at I think like eleven thirty in the morning because the car so long and it. And this was after this was one week after mayweather. Pacquiao. So, there was only one five in the HBO show. So I did everything before Cannella in Kirkland. So Michael comes in does one fight I'm there from like eleven forty five and my lab I went from eleven forty five in the morning to nine o'clock at night I literally didn't even have time to really have a break for like or lunch or anything along those. It was like if I had a five minute break, I'd put something. Eat something quickly and then right back out there and I mean it was that was a marathon of a car guy. So when it's it's funny that we see people like. You know what? Along card? It's five or six hours online. Bro, you. Know Y geo. Parties. Forty five in the morning till past nine o'clock man like I didn't get to my hotel until midnight that day. I remember. You invited me to go to the restaurant. Backing. Meet a vendor and who else was yeah we'll buy I. Had I had dinner with Bernard? Bernard I had become. You know very familiar with each other because I really had a nice lengthy discussion among prior because they were doing a say and provide Makovsky not say was the golden boy providing cough was with banner in Bernard. I. Had a time when we spend a few days talking and. Learning about the game from Bernard in I was asking you I'm like bro You know if you WANNA come on and we're GonNa have dinner and then You know that was that was a lot of fun in quickly. I'm walking to dinner to go I literally dropped off my stuff. My Room came back down I'm walking out of the out of the elevator lamp please. Walk in with his wife, he stops the elevator and he goes, Hey, he goes on water. Tell you that my wife enjoys ring announcing and I respect you work and for me Lampley is the greatest boxing announcer ever idea. He's the greatest sportscaster of all time and win Lampley told me that I started freaking out like I played on but in my I'm like Jim Lampley. Respects my work like holy crap man like this is nuts. ECONO- ruined my my question. I was going to ask you like what? You know being in the business as long as you've been, what is like Have you ever been starstruck? Have you ever had a moment and I I? Think he just kinda summed it up right there. Was Awesome. Any Lampley to me is the kind of guy that is. He is he's very poetic on the Mike and call in a fight and in giving you the information number one is vocabulary is is through the roof way that he articulates his point and I think that him and Larry Merchant were like that was like the summer all in Matt in of boxing. Verge merchant like he said a merchant so well and merchant would. Up with this like this historical facts and be like Morales back when the spartans were met by the Romans in invaders and stuff like that, and I'm like, this is nuts but tate sense when you think about it, but I mean those are it's one of those moments guys is working with with that also quickly to further your answer, the answer on your question is when we were doing mayweather McGregor I, don't know if you guys remember Jim Hill who was the host of sat pay per view back in the day for showtime. So Jim Hill is sportscaster here in Los. Angeles were in the back after the tour after we're done with the first leg of the tour he comes over he goes hey, goes you know I'm Jim Hill this that, and I wanted to be like, yeah, I know you are he goes hey, great job out there and stuff like that. I'm like I grew up watching this guy on a pay per view when I was four years old when Chavez fought. Camacho. Back in like ninety two and this guy's like he watched me work in me perform and it was just like to get that love from like a cat that I've. Mired in up to a mean, it don't get no better than that. That's got to be the best in the world man. Those guys those guys are the greatest that that's. That's what I love about. Boxing his hearing their voices man and they'd always cut cut away to Letterman Exactly, it's like it's like now you know the after the. Break the tape. Now, they'd go to the rules. Betterment I mean that's another guy who I I've become good friends with the his daughter Julie Lederman is is a judge and she dates a friend of mine in Max. DELUCA. WHO's another judge? California so I mean, it's crazy box full circle guys. In you know speaking of the announcing the thing I, love about merchant in that crew of HBO was they were very much almost like a last of a dying breed of announcers can paint the picture if you listen to it on. Radio. You could you could just listen to them in fill in know what was going on with what was with the action like they didn't miss a beat. Will in see that's what the younger generation like me like I I grew up listening to Lampley and merchant also Steve Albert, with thirty per chaco like were spoiled as boxing fans guy. So as as I am now giving that opportunity to call these big events like for me, there is nothing better than a big fight either on HBO or showtime, but they're very. Different stylistically but Lampley to mean would tell you you know from the MGM grand or from your in laws the city is buzzing alive and me being even a little kid of twelve or thirteen years old like I'm like man I can't wait to get Vegas to be out of that and that energy and that electricity and I mean guys, there is nothing better them. As a better job of, but there is nothing better to me in the prefight pageantry for a big price fight in box. Oh. Yeah. Because you feel that it's like when that combing events happening and you're watching your like especially in Vegas guys like I. Love All cities. But man, there's something special about Vegas and you get that comb event in the Star Star. Coming out in sitting in their seats and it's like and you have like people decked out women down gowns and the guys are like. On point with their suits or there, it's just a different level and then when they start making that ring walk and the anthems happened, it's like grow. Let me a little spit of Spanish but or via. Man. Off. Roberto we gotTA HOOK HIM UP with Steve Roscoe man because his visual MMA is. He summed it up. That's exactly the pageantry boxing. That's what Steve Wants to put in MMA and man that'd be awesome did. Now what we know. Al I'm a little older than you. So. What I love. Is the Mega MSG. That's that's what I love. Seeing. The Stars Rollout because New York City you mean still old school the whole. I feel everything he said, but Mike goes to. The East as. I look and I bid these code like msel is there for a for a cupboard Koto in Martinez at MSG FOR ESPN DOT com in and it's like and it's unfair for it. So sad guys what happened Jimmy Glenn the owner of Jimmy's corner of that I don't know if you guys have been to that unbelievable small boxing bar right in the heart at times square but it was like it was a thing of It's a right. Of passage the night before big fight in at Msg we all go or people all go to Jimmy's corner. So I went with Kieran Mulvaney Brian Campbell, and we were all there in Jimmy Glenn came out I've I've been fortunate to get to know his is his nephew that's running the place but that's a right of passage. But as much as I love like I'm Barclays Center, Guy, because that's where a lot of the big PBC fights have happened. I am Adler for both but man when people are walking through the Casino in Las Vegas all. These specific guys, the grand. Gardner, Rita to me I like t mobile a lot but it reminds me like any big basketball arena, the country, the grand garden arena with the seats and you gotTa go through the Casino in how there's only one or two entrances. There is no celebrity entrance guys at the Grand Garden arena that I know of. So all the. Stars kind of have to go through the main entrance like everybody else in the on on the main level are on the first floor and it's just like man you just feel that in I. Love The staff is great there. There's not a bad seat in the housing man I, just I I can't wait to see fans back in the arena for fights. Louis name either. Really. You got me excited just the way you're talking overweight I. WanNa see boxing I want. You know it's one thing guys. I'll beyond a quick stories at I win corona virus started and we had to start to stay home. What I started to do is a Mike Okay I'm going to watch a big fight day. So I was like tell my girlfriend I was like I'm GonNa, watch a big fighter day in in sort of keep you know sharpen this and that now I'm like maybe one or two fights a week I'll tell you why it's because now it makes I'm kind of getting depressed because unlike man I I can't stand watching every day because it's a reminder of what? I'm missing out on and we're GONNA get boxing back. Hopefully, you know PBC comes back in July or August outbreaks come back next week but each is it was just like a reminder of how much I miss this end especially at that high level like that network level that pay review level like when you get a big pay per view guys I mean you know it you feel it I get friends a mind like a typical morning at the mgm for me like it's like eight, eight thirty in the morning I'll go get a cup of coffee. Get some breakfast. Got To do what I ask. You just feel that Baas man like man it is fight date the Chinese shining in Vegas and it's like it's like eleven thirty in the morning and people were kind of grabbing their the t shirts in the posters but I'm like in the next six to seven hours, this place is going to be packed. People are GonNa be excited, and then tonight after the fight I, mean people are going to be parting people and be like. Well, what did you see? What did you do? It's all long in the body community guys I mean that's that's what I miss like the whole process. You know I've only felt that one time going through. Vegas. And I was invited to bleed for this premiere at the poems Nice. In A. Red Carpet 'cause I I know Vinnie me in vinegar friends and I'm really your friends with this lady. So we I feel what you're saying when you say like people just come in and you're an evening gowns or ause are. It's just the electric the that brings you know, and you just feel it and you're you're right about the about the box community band. It's real tight knit group man. Like I love having educated boxing discussion with people because I trained people I I gotTA named Health Program that I do right now that I drank kids with I'm hoping to be A. Put in as today I put in for the. United States, Marine Corps boxing coach. Oh that's great. We'll good luck on there. That's fantastic. Thank you. But yeah. So that's what we're looking at me and look I I know what you feel about that electricity. It's just it's just something about Vegas I. You know. Come on. Big Yoga myself as just like you know it in there. I. Mean I get that that really fuzzy feeling everywhere. But Ashley to me like the Grand Garden in for me now because you know this is my whole Mariam Staples Center because the stars come out man and say, this is Hollywood this is. You're going to see and being there for wilder fury number one at the staple center in to see what that crowd did. You know to be there for Santa. Cruz in Mar one you know there's so many great memories that I have of being a part of events there. But like the not the more of a fight, your life as a do or as anybody but you're like man I gotTa might succeed Oh on point my hair's gotta be on. What am I what I'm going to show out with my shoes in you know this and that and and then go in there and you're fired up and I'm like this is this is what you live for man like this and I'm talking to trainers and coaches. Talk. That's what's beautiful about our sport about combat sports compared to any other sports you could be walking through the casino and see someone like J. D.'s Salo or maybe talk to him for a minute and a half. But are you GonNa go talk to Doc rivers the morning of the Eastern Conference Finals as he's getting ready. Coach. Knew. That's what I love about that. That's what I love about our sport is that the accessibility to fans to media to to trainers it's like we are really a fraternity avenge looks out for everybody. What was your favorite? By, you've ever covered I know there's got to be worn that. I mean there there are a lot of them I mean there are a lot of them. So a say two of them. First of all and I mentioned it was provided cough Matisse say your bell does. I mean, these guys pete the hell out of each other I mean it was absolute savagery that we are watching a city next to Jim Boone from Keio tickets. I. Don't know if you guys note Jim Boone familiar with him. You know he He does a wonderful job of providing a fight tickets to fans you know through through his agency. So you know if you're looking for tickets to the big fight and they're sold out through the casinos you. Know, my Guy Kale tickets to fans go through. But we're sitting there and it was just what they were doing to each other. You knew that providing cough is never going to be the. You'll know Matisse was never gonNa be the same also wilder fury one at staples. Center I called both of them while they're fury one end too. But I called wilder fury one by myself and be able to call tire pay per view, but then to see that prior to. This. Last fight that because it was on showtime Espn Fox, took my call to televise it. You know before the second fight. So that meant a lot to me that I fight in Los Angeles in you know heavyweight championship of the world you know in the entertainment capital of the world I mean it's hard to get any better than that but yeah I mean you know provide cough not say indefinitely while the fury more Always be. Kaufman you knew you were going to show if he bought. Like I to the guy, he only knew how to fight one way and one would typically typically I'm gonNA eat three or four punches and then delivered two or three thuds your way. So I mean that guy was the Russian Arturo Gatty. Absolutely what he was able to do in people say what? He was a brawler he gave awarded Timothy Bradley. Lettuce let's not forget. He was a world champion guys nip. He was a world champion at one time. He was the Brawler, but he was world champion. Timothy Bradley was never the same after their fight now. Bradley. Bradley. Completely had to change the way he did. You know looting. In blood a week after. When you watched the interview on Hbo Afterwards where he talks about, he's had slurred speech for three months. He had since I. Mean, I don't think I ever stepped back. You know. I'd be like man, I'm good after the. If I'm still punchdrunk three months later. I have that dog in. Way It's different levels. Is. They talk about guys there different levels to this game. It's like, what are you willing to go through a me? I think one of the most apropos statements was and I think it was just yesterday that was the four yard diversity of his pass in the greatest of all time. Muhammad Ali. Ali Seventy Years Fighting Frazier, and he goes I've never been I've never ever been on the brink of death until I fought Joe Frazier like listen to that that that statement is it's it's scary but it's also such a like I admire that statement because of what these guys are willing to risk as the price fighters and that's just not Ali feel there several other fighters that are along those same lines as well. Absolutely. Right. Guard bread Dave Rodriguez appreciate you making time beyond the show. This show wouldn't be called sitting ringside with having people like you join us and your experiences I definitely feel you I appreciate the everything you've done for the sport of. New in having you on the show very much appreciate. But I gotta ask you you've levered big time fights. You've been sitting ringside. You've paid your way into UFC one hundred, which is one of the biggest events of the USC and. When twenty four you gotta? Know about those experiences man I mean look UFC one hundred was so so the way that like. I've been around, you know combat sports, half my life so as When when you have seen ninety and I'm going to go back ten USC's real quickly when you have, he was getting ready to come to Chicago a fight news, which is still in existence someone reach out to me or I reached out to fight is being, Hey, you know do you need to cover you know the press conferences and this and that they're like Yeah Yeah No problem. So I got general to see ninety and wrote the prefight stuff, the post fight stuff, and then you know what I made I became friendly with the people at the you have C. Diana. Breezy Arolla who's now moved on what she's doing now but she was very good to me along with Jennifer weighing who is the head of PR as Dana's right hand. Ersan. Reach out to them. I'm like guys like. Hundreds. Coming out. Can I I work for local access station in e Chicago Indiana, a public access TV and I'm like, Yo. You know. Can I cover it this and that and then I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Come on no problem this nat-. So I had a camera guy we paid our hotel our flight. Our expenses. But the whole thing is that when people ask me they go you know how do I get started in this? I'm like. Well, it's like being an independent pro wrestler. You have to pay your dues like guys like I put some of these trips and I win I'm like all right. You know I'm going to have this is my vacation. Money I'm not going to spring break in college. I'm going to go cover you have see one hundred, and that's what I did I interviewed Dan Henderson interviewed Hoist Gracie and it's interviewing all these legends in and not only interviewing them but learning from them, hearing their knowledge and talk with different trainers in during the press conference, Miguel Torres, and frank. Mir. Were, real tight because Miguel tours was in the WEC rang me missing the UFC. So they were I think they were under the same management. So I'm walking through the lobby of the Mandalay Bay and I go to Frank. Hey, frank introduce myself. He goes all I. Know You know you Miguel Torres his friend he goes. What are you doing tonight this? is on Thursday. He's fine brock listener at you have one hundred in the main event on that Saturday I'm like, what are you doing later? I'm like we'll hanging out. He goes he goes. Here's the number you used the address to the gym I'm going to be train at if you WANNA come watch me train you know come through some like Yopougon Absence To. Why guys I saw frank. Mir training getting ready for brock listener. Miguel tour was in there. You know doing his thing Kenny Florian before his fight with Bj Penn you know all these guys have fights and they're all in the gym working. In their respective corners but the all came together trained at the same time looking out for each other and I'm sitting there like are you kidding me I did like Like like as fanned camp but I wasn't as a fan but I was I was taking notes paying attention, and then you have C. One, twenty, nine happened in Toronto I. You know the same thing you know I paid my way to go to Toronto paid for my flight. My Hotel got through customs cover that whole of Bentham, you know the the UFC fan expo the that was going on interview different guys you. Know that was I interviewed Tompkins the late Great Shawn Tompkins I. Don't know if you guys remember we was excellent trainer with Chris Hordes Desk and mark comedy you know really put Canadian Ma on the map and I interviewed him before he was getting ready to corner his guy in fighting. Josie. Aldo in front of sixty thousand people. So I mean it was things like that that I knew I had to do because it was It's like you've gotta Pay Your dues. How can you be ready to fight at the MGM grand if you haven't thought in a small ball ballroom in the middle of Nowhere Ville in the world in front of two or three, hundred people, you can't do twenty thousand people if you haven't done that to three hundred seat arenas. Da Da that I love to hear that played out because I mean you from that to you covering you know like you said, Mayweather McGregor like you've accomplished so much and I mean starting from the end like that's how it works exactly like the path you gotta pay for yourself in you've done a hell of a job doing that making it to the top. So love hearing about that. That's why I was like well, you had to pay your dues and You know knowing that that's where the starting point happen in. You made it to where you are. That's hard work and that's what it takes. Appreciated Dave you know there's still a lot more to accomplish in go through and everything else and you know it's a work in progress but I can't wait for these fights to to come back because you know I am Ansi. Ansi. I'm ready to go and I think a lot of fighters are ready to go and Hopefully in the fall. We can get fans back in the arenas guys. So that's that's the most important thing being safe but also haven't fans back in the arenas. My other qualities sorry Yeah. Manny Patio offer how soon do we say that by a guys it's interesting because the talks have picked up in that regard. So I I was of the mindset in that it's getting more traction but I was of the mindset that it seemed like we were GonNa get like this kind of quasi well to a tournament. The sense that you're hearing spence is GonNa Fight Danny Garcia. So who was GONNA fight package. So I thought he would you know pack? Unified potentially. Daddy. Garcia maybe a rematch with Keith. Thurman. But after it's like Garcia in Spence. All right. It's going to be pack Yell Against Maybe mikey Garcia or angry match with Keith Thurman. So that's what I was thinking and this week this new started coming out about in Crawford what I will say is is I don't think it's far off saying this but I think that the talks have I don't know if even talks have happened but. It, it helped out wilder fewer to helped out that discussion because top rank and PBC worked so well together and I was in the middle of all that. So I think that both sides now are willing to say, okay, we can make these cross promotional fights. Happy. We don't have to wait for wilder fury three to maybe have another one before that. Now I don't know, and again this might be is might be posturing. You don't know if if certain fighters like a Thurman or Garcia asking for too much or if they don't want on a certain date or pack, yell wants to fight. Crawford because he feels it's better for his style of there's so many things that we have to consider in. It's just that's the thing I. Don't know if it'll happen. I know I'm hoping that pack inside the ring and you know at the end of you know by the end of the year because manny pack is a living legend I don't think we have many more fights to see him perform at this level. We will never ever see another many pack Yup and I want to see him fight. You know another couple of times but I said this under another show guys in on yours. But I think that many Pacquiao last fight needs to be in the Philippines assuming that this global pandemic is behind us in why I say that is because of what he's done for the Filipino people and when he's done for his society so I want to be able to to be there in to see is home country and for us is boxing fan say thank you. You know. Thank you too many pack y'all for for the entertainment for the sacrifices that he is done because when you want on the street and you mentioned manny pack, the Common Fan knows who you're talking about in. Not. Many fighters and we're starting to get more were more. Guys are GONNA become crossover stars but manny pack is carried boxing on his back for a very, very long time and we allot to him for what he's been able to do. So I am on a camp campaign guys to see if we can have many pack y'alls last fight in the Philippines hundred thousand people as to save manny. Thank you for what you've done and I think it would be beautiful for the entire world to see the Filipino. People come out and support their very own self. That's what I'm hoping for guys awesome. Yeah. It would be awesome just like how you said it ray. It would be a an honored for us to be able to watch. But at the greatest of all time that you know that we can say he's the greatest of all time in many pack you're finding in his home country. Win Or. Lose. It doesn't matter but he's he's going to retire. It'll be his last fight in his home country in front of his fans his family and patriotism is people man that's the biggest thing Everything that he's done for his people. No, I think that would be a huge honor for him and for everybody that's watching to to just be able to witness something like that. You know I I can't imagine the emotion he would feel just being there you know. At the end right hiring just that's insane. Guys do you remember Real Quick Win Win Arturo Gatty. Thought Alfonso Gomez in Atlantic City on Hbo and that was I. Believe that was Yetis Les Fight. But Win Gaddi. Gaddi lost that fine. But afterwards, the motion the the support from the fans and as you pointed out, win or lose you know. Chip you know for the most part that is a win win situation because in Atlantic City fans were able to to show their emotion in. Go ahead in pay tribute to your hero Gaddi for what Gatty was able to do. For Atlantic, city in combat sports very rarely do you get to go out on a high note but even in the loss Gaddi God rest his soul win out on that high note in front of his fans Yup. Yup. Name that would be if backyard if we actually that plays out, I mean given the global pandemic that we're dealing with. Now I think if times are different what you're looking at ray that that vision I mean it probably would happen and be one of a hell of. A fight boxing, the I mean everybody would come together for that one and manny like you said, forty one, their unique we probably won't ever see anybody. I. Mean even at forty one many pack still the man and he's still down get in there and Crawford maybe he's trying to get in there and get a big win at one forty, seven WanNa toughest divisions and. Many pack UNM I. Mean I WanNa see that five play I wanna see that announce soon. Forty one older something. Hopefully. Not Be. I know right I turned four him maybe. Man Well Forty one in boxing years I mean okay. We can understand that. Not Like A. Legend experienced. Re. From covering enemy to covering boxing. I know you're you're I love was enemy. from the time that you're covering them may what what is your favorite event or your favorite that you? Witnessed or announced Wise yes. So guys I started off as a before. I started off as a boxing fan. So this is for the the you have C. was thing ninety three. So I I. Start Watching Boxing Act in nineteen ninety now is four years old watching Chavez fight Meldrick Taylor. So that's I go back even three years before the you have C. But I got off in the I got I got started in the business of a May I. Before I got boxing was able to bring back you know the the big boxing business, but may wise reme-. A covering it I wouldn't I. It's it's tough because you know you have C. One hundred was was special because it was a it was one hundred anonymously. UFC One thousand, nine because they were you know we're hearing talks just in general society about about movement well in at Yosi One hundred was the enemy movement. Finally gotten the respect it deserved because that week for the first time ever N-. Sportscenter was was had they were on location in Las Vegas for you have see are they were covering you see press conferences on espn of the UFC was finally knowledged by the bigger sports websites not just US hardcore m. a reporters. A Your See, one, twenty nine was a celebration of you know getting almost sixty thousand people inside the Rogers Centre in the passion and the energy and the enthusiasm from the crowd in Toronto it was symbolic because you had a Canadian hero enjoy. Saint Pierre. Really did such an unbelievable job of furthering MMA them. But you also had the vision of Dana White who you know without Dana White obviously the for Titas had the the financial forward thinking and they had the business savvy. But from promoter standpoint, Dana White as is one of the best promoters that we've ever seen combat sports. He had the vision long before you have seen one, twenty, nine happen that I'm going to do a big stadium and people were like you're crazy or crazier. What's the fight? What's the fine did George saint-pierre against Jake Shields now? NO DISRESPECT TO J.J. Because Jake. Is An Unbelievable. Fighter but jake shields doesn't have that. In Rural Appeal. Not at all. Here at that General Appeal and just with that alone a almost sixty thousand people so It was but it was a celebration of like man like one hundred is the United States knows who we are and here we are the Mandalay Bay twelve thousand people go crazy. You have see one, twenty, nine, kicked it up a couple. Notches has this. Day We. Most we. Pretty. Much filled the football stay. Em. To why? A chill fight. That hadn't happened in also in boxing in a very. I'll survey then Marta. Book. What'd did you get so quite David. Now there. Yeah I can I can hear you think our guest that knows. He's doing callback. Really. Rich in India. See Twenty nine fellas like that. Also was the night. Jose. Aldo made his debut in the AFC against Martin. And the transition period of you know, WC, to the scene a couple superstars really make their statement on the anime world. So yeah, and it's Kinda yet to be done again because the only time we ever seen it again was highly home against Rasi, which is a bigger crowd different. You know I mean. Seating wise. It wasn't really like super visually appealing, but I mean. Like. You said, you know Ronda Rousey vs holly whom I mean. That was like the biggest talk of the town I mean everybody wanted to see that fight because they wanted to see it holly who can do What she says, she said she was going to do and he proved everybody wrong. Yet and I even talked with Arlo the other day personal conversation. I said at the time when it happened, I think I was doing ESPN radio segments you know about that rob to in. I think we did it and we took calls and people. In Albuquerque we're really questioning Bali homes ability to go in there and take Rasi out where we me and Henry. t else my mentor might. The, and we we said, yeah, that's going to be good. Kick heard round the world in. What happens when you? Man Hung. Up. Try. Try. Get Really. Technical. Difficulties. But. Activity, like he mentioned one hundred, I mean everybody remembers USC one hundred one of the best events to ever delivered in put the. UFC on the mainstream but the one, twenty, nine card, I mean Jesus was just an amazing I mean that's is really takes me back I mean it's like a ten it goes back ten years I think was twenty ten I happened so array as you rejoin us that. Like I said all along the lines of Jake shields DSP town Robin Rudy on the Undercard, we've seen a real a legendary Jose. Aldo made his debut in the AFC. I, mean at that was really a car. You've been their cars on the enemy side and in boxing that is super legendary. So like it's awesome that you've you, you're there I mean sitting ringside covering it like I said you had to pay your way into twenty nine and. A few. Experience, bring up Josie. Although. You bring up Josie Aldo I was in I. Don't know if you guys remember when rampage fought machida in Detroit that's another one. Then I was Chicago at the time. So my buddy and we drove up I did a radio show in. CHICAGO WE DROVE UP TO DETROIT and dot they're just in time to see the bell presentation of Dana White giving you know the the one. Hundred forty thousand pie or the featherweight title to Josie Aldo. So that was a significant moment. So I saw all be given the title in that was when you have seen got murder, the WC merged with the UFC. So that was they were making that transition because I also covered WC events as well like Miguel Torres got knocked up by Brian. Bowles when Torres fought to km. Gawky. The so many fantastic cards that you know Ricardo Lamas started off in the WAC. Sarojini I mean at the pet is I mean those cats have been around for a long time and you know it was great to see that zoo for bought the WAC emergency in the UFC. That's what we've mentioned in the the time we're the. Hadn't happened other than Ronda Rousey were championed moved from the BBC to the AFC without a a match up happening in happened to be the mark where people probably remember that fi because of the markovics face. But A, that's really Jose although on the scene and end up people knew the legend is Jose Aldo. So very cool time period it was a big transition in You know like you said, UFC one hundred day covered. So yeah, these events that you've been a part of I mean like I said, we wouldn't this show wouldn't be sitting ringside with having a guests like you in the experiences in you know your mark on the game MMA and boxing? I appreciate it quickly, guys like I don't know I haven't been. You've seen a while because you know doing my boxing stuff but do they still play you know the WHO in babble Riley in the arena beforehand and stuff like that. Do they still do that or is that now a thing of the past? Pretty sure fast. that. Such a bummer because you guys remember like I'm an old school head like before when the prelims were going on as they're getting ready to go to main card if they had a couple of minutes to spare, they play a cool music video of with the WHO and Babbo, Riley and they pat him all these significant and historic. You have see moments and the last minute of when they're with the violins, they're showing Bonner Griffin which I think is the greatest MMA fight ever if put it on put the US? Stratosphere. But the last minute that music video these showed that the highlights of that fight and then you got ready for the main card in the came out with face the pain by stabbing and doing. I love that. was like. That was insane like even as a media member, you're ready to run through a one like. This and It's been a while a long while it's been a it's been a minute since they've done that and they don't even the face opinion saw. Man Or you know what I noticed that back during quarantine. So you know I was watching the paper now where does the pain go? I know where's the Gladiator Guy Man? Kind of dark it was in Everythi now job. Yeah no I think after the the you've got bought out with this new company. I believe that's the bell that stock They brought him to one night. It was like an nostalgic. For their for their anniversary. That that's what it was. They brought all those research last time they did it but before that, it had been a while. As he that was that was all the process man like being in Toronto and and hearing that things go when they went to that main card Cardi was like you felt it was almost marrying kind of symbolic and deatrich to like how the wwe does pay per views. It's like you felt like they they made the crowd pop we were supposed to. So I don't know that's what I like about boxing is that before the main event you get all the prefect pageantry and everything else. So you know I'm an old school guy though guys. Now. I know you you've covered the Florida and Connor. events or the the the the world tour yeah. We're all that. Being you found out that they were gonNA fight each other. What was your first reaction? Your I thought can you that Conor McGregor was coming tottered? Did it I was like he didn't eat actually did it like he made the FI, become a reality and Like floyd is such genius when it comes to his business but I'm like I can't believe like 'cause I was even getting ask questions six months before they're like, do you think it'll happen? I'm like. I'm like it'll happen if floyd wants at the happen in I, thought. Floyd is going to entertain this stuff like that, and then I started here more rumblings about it, Mike? Maybe, but now like screwed. Too. Good to be true to the best talkers that we've ever seen two of the most popular fighters that we've ever seen a partnership between you know mayweather promotions in the of M.. Mike two different networks now a, and then when when I find when when Floyd Mayweather was interviewed by Jim Gray or by I think it was actually Steve Far Hood. During show box and Floyd said the only way I come out of retirement for boxing is the fight Conor McGregor. and. When I heard that on my. Man Like he's serious light now, just the numbers have to be right and then I think a couple like two months less than two months later, the fight guide announced and then it was like, oh my gosh, like this is insane and guys that whole tour was it was like traveling with as they say back in the day like traveling with the Beatles or rock star or. Star like the rolling stones or or the Bulls of the nineteen nineties in what it felt like an every city you win. The crowd was loud and proud in Pacha, and that's the watch to talk with each other towards each other like that's what was even crazier. Both. Yeah. I wanted to know what your first stop was. When because I knew that you were you were involved in all of this. I was like man I wanted to know what his thought is. It was like he found out he got got the fight card and you've got your Chinnery for the next four days. You. No it's on know when I when I got so. This is back a couple years ago during a a couple of years ago, and you know on on Fourth of July I was actually told that I was on the tour like I heard rumblings like keep it under your hat on like. I hope this. Thing, ever my career and then fourth of July there like you're going to get a car, you're GONNA get a call fourth of July that you was on a Tuesday or Wednesday name. I didn't get a call until that Saturday to officially confirm like they had me locked in but I haven't gotten a call yet and I'm not going to be bugging people because the last thing they need to be worried about trying to four cities in four days me. So I'm like, okay keep patient patient I got that call and they sent me my flight stuff. It was like I got the call Saturday lot on Monday we started in La Tuesday Brooklyn Wednesday or Brooklyn was We started off in La on Tuesday Toronto, Wednesday, Brooklyn Thursday and then London on Friday, and then we had a fight in Nassau, coliseum on that Saturday. So it was wild guys but I was like you we go man, this is going to be unbelievable. It was something I'll never forget for the rest of my life. Style. I couldn't believe it was just. A one the only time I've been able to do this is just to give you guys some behind the scenes stuff. So this is after La on Tuesday and like everyone you know they were all the staff showtime all these other different people and I had to call up the travel agent on my hey, I'm like you know what time is my flight to Toronto you know what American Airlines Delta you know you know I I gotta get to Canada you know what I'm saying. Like. Meet downstairs in in the lobby of of the the Marriott next the staple center there like with the team being with the man you know they were furthest tour they had jet sponsorship. So you know it was a one for floyd in his people one for Connor, his people, and then a staff, the staff was on another one. So I was fortunate to be on that third one in I get on there. I'm. Like whoa Mike this is crazy like I've never flown private like this in my life like this is this is next level stuff you know what I'm saying like I'm they're trying to be all quiet and I'm like observing and seeing Leonard Alabi who's always been we've been such a great dear friend of mine from the promotions a CEO The company, and he's like Ray, how're you doing this? I'm just kind of like, Hey, this. Man. Style. Man. Get it is. So it was a lot of fun. That's bad. Ass Man. I love it. I love stories like this man I've liked all of his stories man every every person that he's named has been a staple, my childhood I grew up. Loving Bernard Hopkins Larry Merchant Dave Letterman I, mean all those guys man I'm old school I started off watching the Hagler vs earns sugary Leonard I remember getting tergence Fried Chicken Cups for. Marvin. Hagler vs earns. That's crazy. We'll did you ever have a chance to meet George Foreman? I haven't I haven't met four men but a as a college student I did purchase one of his grills. But. You you brought up sugary letter though an. APP Mayor Mayor Mcgregor I was the translator for the Fox portion and before the fights you know I introduced my stuff the sugar ray and we're talking and he was working with Brian? Kenny and and before the fights hey, sugary I'm like you know what do you think about the fights breaking down the you know the you know the Fox portion of the. Card to and he's like, Hey, he goes I like what you what you're saying. He goes you know before before every fight, you know give me your thoughts on the fight April gets ready to start for Mayor Mcgregor I'm going to go take my seat he goes now he goes years I want you to sit here stay next to me the entire time What he's like yeah, he goes. He goes I like the information you giving me stay stay next to me. So before every fight in the pay per view with exceptional may or the McGregor you was like it was like to be was on one of the the pay per view was on the paper and I'm like well to beat he does this. To beat does that because I've been around these guys for a long time and I've done a lot of their fights. So I'm doing this and and it's like sugar. Ray. Leonard is asking my opinion that's for on. On these fights. But I'm GonNa give you a step even further. So they were delays because people were buying the paper that it over flooded the systems to we had to have a break. So during this break, I'm talking to sugar rain I'm like I'm going to ask him some questions that I want to know about Geeky boxing stuff for so. I asked him questions like sugar. What is it like the morning of a big fight like what do you do and he's telling me he's like well, the first thing I do he goes I wake up I go to the bathroom I flip on the light close the door he goes I start shadowboxing in the Mir he goes I started doing that. And I'm asking him a Bob you know fighting hagler fighting. Duran. All these this that I'm like I can't believe what's going on right now. This is one of the greatest fighters of all time and he's willing to talk to me about when he fought Marvin Hagler or when you thought Duran or when he saw Tommy hearns and he's wave into his daughter and he's like, Hey, waived my daughter Mike your sugar sugary Leonard. And we're talking Hagler in. and. We're talking it was unbelievable man and just I was just being nice talking about the prelims guys to him and and he's giving me all this unbelievable information like. You're a fan buoying you know. It's One of those things that I. Like I'm not I'm not one of those people like I. Say this I'm a fight fan I. I'm going to be professional at all times and everything else. But like as I look at it now. Yeah. I fan boy out because it's like I was literally given so much knowledge in information about what goes through the mind of prizefighter not just sugar ray Leonard laymon brewster, who's one of my near and dear friends who have met through PBC when he was a champion in the world and he knocked out Andrew Golota Adam and I asked him I'm like Yo I'm like, what was it like making that walk in Chicago when you had twenty thousand Polish people against you and what was going through your mind and he told me That one of the people spit on him and he goes if pissed off even more ray, he goes I was I was mad before I was even more furious and but those are the questions that that I want to ask price because prize fighters to me more than any other athlete off on the planet no disrespect to them. But they're the greatest athletes on the planet because when they stepped inside that ring, they are risking it's life or death than they are essentially partaking in they might not be able to walk out of the ring if things don't go their way. So to hear a guy, say that they are the heavyweight champion of the world that says to me and I don't pay atten- at that point, I don't pay attention if you're WB WBO WBZ, IBM gun matter, you're the baddest man in the planet at your way class there is no more intoxicating feeling four a man on the face of God's Green Earth than saying I in the baddest man at one forty seven when it comes to boxing or may like there's nothing better than that guys. Yeah. So Man Ray. that. I wish I can just be in your shoes. event. Or just like next to you be like I'm just GONNA. Follow you you know. I tell my girlfriend this you know quite a you know many many times but it's like I wanna be like I grew up listening to like the old writers like Burke sugars of the world and we mentioned him I WanNa be like that Oh gee like you know still covering fights in and commentating fights at seventy seventy, five years old I. WanNa be in the lobby at the MGM grand the night before the fight my wife and I are going to be having dinner and I'm going to have a cigar maybe. You know with my beverage of choice probably Tito's water with lemon lime and I'm GonNa be revenue seen with the boxing guys with you guys. Probably, we're GONNA be with our wives and everything and we're going to be reminiscent about the old days robotic. You know old fight dates and then looking ahead towards the fight the next day like that's what's beautiful abandon involved in this sport for so long is that. The fighters trainers, the matchmakers are so generous with their time. I had a great conversation with Brad Goodman from top rank is one of the best matchmakers in the business that great conversation with Tom Broadway thinks one of the best matchmakers ever and I. Will be one day being the International Boxing Hall of fame. But I like hearing why they made this fight why they made that fight but man those conversations in Vegas the night before the fight you know and even after the fight off things at that I look forward to with all of you I mean, you know when people are like, Hey, thanks so much for the time and this and that I'm like I'm a then more than you are probably like you know like I wanNA. Talk about this stuff. Yeah man that that's why I keep reaching out. Mac. 'cause I was like I got. We gotTa have ray on the show because I know David and Arlo Rudy's love. You. Watch it. I've been a fan way before we became friends on facebook and You know back in two thousand fifteen. That's when we met and I was like I'm going to reach out and then when we met at you know in Houston and yeah just hearing you commentate and announcing these fights just like it was just surreal you know and then you know plus watching Carmelo knockout correctly and. That was hard. For, me hearing it all the way up in the media Rio. And you being like right there man I'm sure that that knockout was just. It was chilly. Chilly. Kirkland. Okay like. Because I. Assistant Traders Gerald Talker, who is fomer. Stop. Top level amateur in Cincinnati and use one of the trainers for. Kirk. And I looked over at GT in his yoke as he's okay and that's the thing I wanted to make sure that these guys are safe. Or most and but yeah, it was unbelievable to see that to see the crowd come on and you know with the Charles doing what they're doing guys. I, want to get back to Houston I mean I you know we did you know the the arena down there and arena but there's no reason why you know we can't go ahead and do the what they call it the Toyota Center there's no reason why we can't do the Toyota Center for Charles Fight the Jamal Jamal or quite popular and They're always ready to fight whoever's so hopefully, we can do the Toyota Center down in Houston so. That'd be. That would be nice to have them as the main combing. Now that that's the hope. So you know a down there and I love these hometown fights. Man. One Day Thank you so so much for being on the show of man. It was it was awesome. It was a privilege of an honor especially for me being a fan of yours, you know to be able to hang out with us. I mean, that's just a that that means a lot to us so. It's a memorable experience for me man a huge boxing fan. That's my first love. I fell in love with boxing before anything and yeah man you're awesome. Bro You. You've got the charisma of all the all the greats that I watched growing up. So That's off logo why I appreciate it guys in one thing that I'll tell you in Robert all you guys. Thank you so much for the invitation, but I'll tell you this is now I have a very old school in tally in the sense that whenever I come on the air, I do anything on television ring on-scene a play by play hosting in press conferences. I always put myself in the position of if I was a fan at home. So I take great responsibility in preparing immersing myself in the fighters talking with the trainers getting as much information as possible so I can. Tell you the fan at home what is going on in why this is significant and the conversations that I had that I just got like I'll tell you. Hey, I just like I spoke to J. D.'s literally hours before wilder fought fury the second time in I mentioned that on the international telecasts. But I take it with great responsibility when I met these events, guys, I don't look at it as another day at the office. I look added as I am blessed to be here because there are millions of other people who are very talented like yourselves that wish they could be in. My position. So I need to make sure that I am at my best that I have as much knowledge as possible than I am that I have gotten proper rest and nutrition so that I can give you guys the best possible broadcast because Lampley didn't Steve Albert did it merchant? Did it Ferdie Pacheco did it guys sat on our for the younger generation like me and it's not to go ahead like they will forever be themselves and I'm not trying to be Lampley Steve Albert or or any of these guys but I am trying to take the sport even further because they set. Forth, the foundation for people like me they opened up the doors a Bernardo sooner has opened up the doors for people like me so I have to walk through them. So I can allow other doors to be opened for the younger generation. So we can't keep boxing going forward and more into the general conscience of the American public. So I take it with great responsibility and thank you guys for all the support in the love than let's hope defense can get back in the arena. You're safe conditions and we can have these big crazy atmosphere's like how we love so much in boxing. Her. Doing the set at any better man. Thank you guys so much and stay safe guys care you too, Sir thanks. Radar. Awesome Guy Man. Yeah, man really good stuff. One of my most favorite interviews so far and that's because we've had we've had like some. We've got a lot of big people. Raise a a frequent huge name and I really enjoyed that honestly man 'cause I love boxing boxing. I love boxing more than May and yeah. Think the boxing. I the older cats we that's what we saw I. Rather than the minute. The first thing he opened up with was talking about Bernard Hopkins. Right now in my favorite boxer ever. And then he started talking about Larry Merchant I'm like right there. That's my favorite ring announcer ever you know I mean not you know just everything he was talking about just hit home with me man. It was a good good memorable experience for me. Yeah Kellyann that man that was fun. Yes sir. Yes. Although. We didn't get through nearly half the stuff we wanted to today. It's okay. It's okay. Maybe we can throw a show tomorrow you know and and do a pick him. Do a quick pickup show. Yeah. Maybe we can do that. Do a quick thirty, forty, five minute show do a quick pick them for a round ninety to have. Though yeah man we're already there. We're past two minutes of our time. Will we'll talk off line to see if we can set that up and we get our on on the on the show as well may do it quick thirty, forty, five minutes show. Against Sobel, a will run that through Pinkham and. Yemen, who was an awesome show will Be Blessed to have ray under. I've been wanting to get on the show for a long long time, but him being so busy. You know they're just played out ride with the with the whole pandemic and you know. It was just perfect timing. The, pandemic but. Being able to talk. But few shots everybody that's watching listening. Thanks so much for the support all the five book ever fans all our crew. That's. Helping us. Keeping, the website going and and the and the facebook group page David thank you so much math for being on the show again and our low I know yet to you know leave real quick so. Again thank you, man. David. Does Not Year 'cause that's show brother. Yup. MINUS ONE Y'all nowhere to be every Thursday night, we do it off. You want the best seat in the house four Horsemen Bama may sitting ringside number forty, eight onto the necks. Thank you. FACEBOOK is all about faces facebook. Yeah. 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Oscar Valdez: Miguel Berchelt Is A Tougher Fighter Than Shakur Stevenson

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1:52:55 hr | 4 months ago

Oscar Valdez: Miguel Berchelt Is A Tougher Fighter Than Shakur Stevenson

"Acids intended for mature audiences, the views and opinions expressed are those of the panelists and do not reflect in any way. Those are the podcast partners, sponsors or fillets enjoy. Hard! This is Michael Buffer and you're listening to the voice of the people. Let's get ready. For boxing voice. WAS DOT com. Slash! Song. This here. You take power. MESQUITE Dot Com. Alright Alright Alright Welcome back ladies and gentlemen to the Second Doses T. V. in the morning. Rocket with GTO you already know. Follow me on all forms of social media with back with another one. We're GONNA have, world renowned trainer. Jaffa Mayweather. On today's show and we're going to be talking about Chicago Stevenson Valdez Miguel Burke Shell. It is Oscar. Viale desert is opinion that Miguel broke. Chat is a tougher fighter. Then Chicago Stevenson and he has his sights set on facing burchill, so we'll debate it. See. What you guys think plus interview. Jeff Mayweather should be jumping on about two minutes, Mario. What do. Can Need Mattio. A do fine. It do as fine as it was doing twenty minutes ago when we last left y'all, but what up Yo This is a topic that I'm really glad that we got in. you know it wasn't the only reason I wanted to do a second show, but it definitely is part of the the better it works out better for us. It's really tough. Thing to to say you know who's a tougher fight you know styles make fights, but in this case I think it's easy to say yeah, it's true like you know I. I think that if we were saying who's it, he said I think that is the tougher fight to win. then I might have problems with it. And he said that I think Bert check a beach core Stevenson, or has a higher ceiling or something then I'd have a problem with it, but to say that it's a tougher fight or a harder fight. He's right. Because we should core you know it might not turn out the same way Burchett. You know what you're going to get you know and so even if he's a simpler fighter as advanced as Shukor. The things he does use make it very tough on a fighter and Yeah, that's where I'm going to be heading with this discussion. I mean I think it's. Fair and safe to say. if you're Oscar Valdez. Burt Shell is the tougher fight in. I mean there's there could be arguments may, but we're going resume. which is what I like. Has Been In. With the opposition Birchall has face Francisco Vargas twice which Vargas is a tough fight. It look he's not the most skilled fighter. He's not going to be the sharpest tool in a tool box, but he's going to bring that Mexican pressure and you gotta deal with it. You know some, say they. May Not have the power that others believe he has so. This is a way to you know. Kind of demonstrate that right like. Beating a guy like Francisco Vargas as the does have knock out power that can, for Annella Vargas is far removed, but he fought Vargas twice Rochelle did. Takashi Muira Miguel Mickey Moran which is Roman. You know he's he's. He's been around the block, but he's a vet. You know body you'll see. Four Jonathan body was Jason Sosa and I I really. That's all the names I could come up with. Resume, but that's a lot. That's experienced, Mario. Yeah! It's definitely experience, and that's the thing is when you look back at those fights. Those were all tough fights, and there were fights for those guys, so you know I. It's a very simple thing to say you're right. It's not controversial or shouldn't be where it begins to get controversial where people wanna dissect it to mean something different like Chicago's. Not The guy or Chicago is not a you know a better fighter, or is it more winnable? Fight like those. Those are all separate issues, and here's the thing like right now. I don't know who would win between you know. Stevenson, an amber chat, pound for pound on. Who's better, right now, but I can tell you that my money's on core being one of if not the best in boxing. At some point you know I. It's to me Shukor. It's has the bigger silly, so if we're talking about all those things that obviously goes into course favor, but right now. Let's go make you pay. He's GonNa. Make you earn every single aspect of that fight. You know it's not this like it's this very calculated violence, and he's very brilliant the way that he uses it because it's not all just hard, nosed straightforward punches in bunches. He makes his angles. He throws them from different directions. You know he he goes low. He comes back up lottery. Really Technical Things Mario. So are you not looking magic cameron seeing the hall of fame? Jeff Mayweather they I'm like. Very A. When is he going to cut that one short? Not Notice you jumped on. Good, morning, first and foremost WanNa, thank you obviously for coming on the program and talking a little bit of boxing with us. I did get an opportunity to interview. For the Mayweather McGregor, build At the gym but I. Don't think we've ever done this You know here on the show, but we do appreciate you taking the time and come on. Let's get into any fighters. You might be dealing with first before we take you down. Memory Lane or into any of the current events. Anybody you working with? It's going to be getting an action right now. We see top rank during a lot of fights at the bubble. Well actually right now. I mean I have Doll Riley He's still young earlier. This but I think that he has a very very promising career as a cruiserweight and And I mean he. He confided he could flat out fight. and I think that. Technically he's probably one of the best fighters between. Now for those that don't over del Riley is a UK fighter. He was four, no with mayweather promotions, scientists most notably known for being the trainer of Logan Paul. What was it? Excuse me. KFI You're right. He trained Kassai. Who Actually got the win? But what was it that you see in him? That made? You say I'm going to take them serious as a fighter when we kind of were introduced to him, being chaos is trainer. Right, well, actually, he came to the June For some reason I wanted to come to Vegas in and of course inveigle in Vegas. He went to the gym and Oleg came to the German and he was trying to a little bit in a basically. Came in there, and he was kind of like he was. He was fearless of Adolfo kind of fearless he. He wanted to spy on the time he was there. He wanted to actually do something in find out. You know you know if it's any different here than it is down in UK, whatever but. So. Basically he responsible one guy. And the unleashed on them and I mean. He dropped the guy. And From, there is Kinda like. I kind of like. You know I was watching. But Then we start talking in once. We started talking. It was like. You know even though he's like twenty two years old, I mean he. He speaks like a guy that's in his fifties. You know in any as that kind of wisdom in I mean and we became instantly became. You know connected. And in happening after that was, he said will I WANNA I WANNA file with Andrew to beat you know the beasts. Like I'm thinking to myself with my own, do you want? I don't know if you want to do that. You know but. He did. He. Held, his own, and you know, and even even Andrew you know applauded him. For getting with him in his own so I mean. That just showed me that you know. I mean not only, is he? Good fire, but you know he's confident in his ability as well. Absolutely definitely now. Let me ask you during this time you know got covert and and fight. You're starting to come back What do you think it is worth to a fighter? Exertion of specifically, but now I'm GONNA use an example like you got Crawford out here. Saying that he doesn't WanNa take you know fights with a pay cuts, but aside from that from the training aspect. Do you think it smarter for guys to wait until things are fully cleared before they step in the ring, you know with with fury, wild type fights. Crawford Spence type or Spence Garcia tie fights are those better way or you think we can get things rolling with the access we have now. I think that. Is I mean with this. With this in a with this, going on I don't think that. We can afford to wait because we don't know what has no idea when this is gonNA stop or it's ever GonNa South. So. We gotta live life as you know as normal as normal as we can in so for for things to actually take place for things to. You know to get back to what it was I. Mean of course I mean. You've gotTA follow the roost. I mean. It doesn't make if I mean if you're getting paid. To do what you do for a living. I mean whether the fans did not going to be long. I mean of course I'm big on fans being there as If, that's not possible. And I mean you still making a living was the point. I mean that's why you're doing it. You sign up, not necessarily for the audience. I mean you can't. You can't stop your courageous because there's nobody there June for you. I mean because basically at the end of the day this sport is. Probably about you about you in your own cheats. Jeff, man, Obviously there's been some sparring that was released on. The Internet pertain into one of the mayweather promoted fighters. Hours was Devante Davis. Would I've read? Catch took place in. Buddy mcgirt JIM IN LA. Did you happen to see that? I seen it on Youtube. Chance to see it, but I'm sure you're familiar with tanks barn and how he spars. You've seen that I'm sure on countless times. Yeah Yeah I mean the few times that he he'd been to to the gym. Yeah, he released. I. E He breaks it. So what we seem, we're records. That's normal for tank like going. Because like, it was pretty hard. I mean it was I think that. Don't get me wrong. Also think that he kinda pissed them off a little bit because he was talking as they was fired and things like that, but I mean no, but that's how that's. How A DEVANTE! That's how he doesn't you know when he gets there, he wants. Let you know that he's the boss so as a trainer. We've been accent. We had buddy on Alex Rivera we just got off with Lenny Wilson your who trains one a your guys as a fighter promoters Richardson Hitchens. And we're just accent like. When is it working? When is it like you just abusing? My fight was Ivan did Ivan get a chance to learn anything because it looked more like a beat beatdown. yes. But like I, said I mean it. It appeared as though. He was. Talking and kind like talking trash whatever so. Maybe sometime, that's what that's. What happens, you know I mean when you're doing there with a guy that has the kind of experience that Devante has in the kind of power that he has i. mean you might not WanNa Piss Mall. so then who's responsibility at that point is I mean, doesn't it fall on the trainer to say like Yo? I think that's enough like my guy didn't sign up for this, or this is going beyond. What we what? We thought it was. The least watched them Shah's behind the hey felt like he was in red cards behind ahead. I'm like damn with a train out. I'm watching Jack in, but I have buddy buddy why he started like that. Ain't my fight. I'm like that's your gym. Did you freeze up on us? Yeah, but I mean. That falls on the you know that father down if it falls in the hands of the trainer, because that's your fighter, that's your fighter and issue job to protect you. So I. Mean if you're you're you're fighters? Get dominated or it gets to a point where it's not actually Actually you know almost like a fight with gloves on. Its job to stop it, you know and to to move on you know, and and and probably not let you you'll guy ever fight. again in they fight what it does is it gives him a chance if the same class to get a huge Bailey foot. Small. When do you think because we had lenny? Wilson just aren't around nine thirty, really ten o'clock, and and he's the trainer Richardson Hitching was promoted by a t m T., but he said sometimes some dogs sparring is needed to know what you find a has, and for your fighter to know what he has that. There is kind of like guess. A good thing to come out of some dog spars not always bad. Do you feel that way like maybe your fight? A needs to be gut. Check before getting in the ring. I think I think that You know I think that it just depends on. The trended mentality we must though I don't believe in along my fighter to get his ass. Because to me, that's not that's not building anything you know. If anything that's is. Will you don't even let him know that? He's not as good as he thought he was. You know so I mean. But you know I mean every every. Job. You know I mean sometimes sometimes it is sometimes it is good to. You might have a guy that you might have a fire that you have. That may be filling themselves in. He might need an ASS whooping. Be Humbled. So I mean I think it's good in both ways, but it just that when it gets to the point of would got to with those two I think that it would be best just to. You know just fine. So We see history tells us you you got, or you were enforced corner. Obviously for his first world title and Chicago Stevenson has been in the media and I want you to know like this is not him say in this. This is more people asked specific questions about comparisons to him in fluid and. He came out and said that he doesn't want to be fully wants to be better than floyd in there. He's kind of proving that by. Capturing the world title in thirteen or Fourteen fights. But you being in Mayweather's corner for that world title shot. Is it the same? For you or how much? Greater or how good was Hernandez at the time? When floyd face them in comparison, I guess to. A call who face, Jill? Gonzalez. Well, I think that. At that time of course was the best. He was the best. Fighter in weight, class and is funny because. I was actually I went to. Mexico had to play down there in It was HBO broadcast. And them. Learn merchant. bump into each other on a elevator. And so I was going up and he is, so he starts in. That's around. That time was when the fight was signed food fight A. Genero and he was like he's really like going off on me, and I'm like. What are you talking about like you gotta? Just you got. You must be just trying to make some money, because this kid is not ready for junior on, and I said that's what you think. I said they'll have it. May I say it makes no difference what you think I said is what we think and I think that I think that he's ready for. Anybody else. And so basically of course. I mean now history you know I mean. He dominated genucel and went on to be. You know one of the greatest fighters in sport books. Do you think that that could ever duplicate it. When I mean, I'll go ahead. I'm sorry I. Just want to say and I ain't trying to ruin the move, but I do feel like. We were slightly disrespectful by not at least paying, our condolences are noted. Roger passed away not too long ago, so we do one at least com. And not just ignore it but Mara. Yeah absolutely you know. I grew up with Roger on twenty four seven is some of the most memorable boxer moments, so he definitely. Ours By bikes and his infamous. because. You know a real quick. I just want to ask you ever think it would be duplicated. Career because. Nowadays, it seems like he put that blueprint now and it's like. I don't know I. Just feel like nobody's going to be able to ever really touch them like that. You know with the domination in the ring. With? The pay per view buys just the way. He was able to polarize everyone like now. When people do it seem suspect to me. It's like now you're just. You're just trolling, but were you just trying to do that to get popular? You know what I'm saying. This. Before you answer that Jeff. Put this out there like the people say that about Tyson like no one was going to be able to Tyson did and then along came. Floyd anyway didn't. Come yet don't get me wrong. I mean the one thing is. Is it almost like? Every ten twenty years. There's someone that comes along. That changes the game and take box to hold different level that we thought that we will never see. Of course I mean that that probably is going to happen within the next ten years again again. You know it's going to be someone someone. On you know that that does you know probably does better than floyd and or. Do you see. Do you see anyone CNN right now that you think could be that guy. Generational talent as mayweather would say. Long I mean. I think should. Stevenson is on on the right track. I think He has a lot of talent i. mean as a right now. I don't think he is nowhere near as good as fully was. His. H I don't see that you know, but I do see him. At one of the guys is going to be a future of future star in boxes. You know in and I think that he has and I liked the one thing lack. Of. Them is the fact that he's not trying to beat next fully. He's trying to be the first Chicago. Stevenson not like that about him. I mean it's just like I have people all the time that we to me on on Instagram facebook and they want to. They want me to train them and they think that they gotta tell me some bullshit. That really goes to make sense. I'm the next Roy. And I tell them I said you next Flight S. it will change I said you should want to be the next. You I mean you should want to be better than floyd I said so don't I mean. Don't actually degrade yourself by trying to be someone that you let you just look up to be better than. While says we're on the Chicago topic. The topic of conversation. Is a statement from Oscar Valdez, he was the former hundred and twenty six pound wbz vacated to move up to one thirty, chicago turned around and fought for that vacant title, because he was the mandatory to vow. Desert Ford Joanna Gonzalez to win it now. Chicago vacated that title. Both of these guys around one thirty, but Oscar has his eyes set on Miguel burchill. Burchill, who is the WBZ hundred and thirty pound champ, and who Oscar Valdez believes is a tougher fight in Chicago Stevenson so as a trainer and a boxing fan. Do you think burchell shell who I would say is the best in the division right? He's defended his title more. He's the most recognized. The champion is Jamal herring by the way at the IBF. But yeah. Do you think there? is a tougher fight then Chicago Stevenson for Oscar Valdez. Well! The one thing is the one thing in boxing. At if you're a good manager, you good training. Those are things that you supposed to say. That's how you get away from avoiding the best fighter out there by saying that this guy is better than this and so in, but everybody accepts because if I knew that. You Know I. Mean You made it? You put it out there in a way. WHERE OKAY WELL WE'LL! We don't WanNA fight core because because we. Will fight to other guy. That's way better. You want to say that he's better. But you know the the boxing. Public doesn't think that he's better. So do don't think Bersell is better than Chicago. Or is it like I mean? Yeah, how Ucla you? You sound like you don't see him better. I'm just saying that it's a clear words I think. In in, but basically I mean because it's a play on words, but at the same time the waste done is almost like is not offensive in his not. Is Not making you look like you're trying to avoid. Guy That everybody wants you really flake. But that business talk in s Endesa how it should be done because never. Should you quit you fighter? Never, should you award money mouse in? Ma fighter I don't think my father can be this fired or I don't think or this guy is better than fighter. So that's how you that's. That's the play on words. It makes sense. Okay, You know all go ahead. I'm sorry. I just wanted to know if COACHMAN. It's Alex here a little late to the party. Man How you how you doing how you've been. Blessed blessed I. Just did you hear about the new signing of FAA? Jack Bay heavyweight to A. To J prints What are your thoughts on on that and Have you had any experiences? Which Princeton the boxing game? no, not really I mean I've met him. I. Mean we've always spoke I mean he's very nice, got me. Up that. The really really big heavyweight African. Anyway your journey where Ron Shoot, yeah I mean. Don't get me wrong. I think that you know I mean. I think that the. I mean he's. I don't know if he's any good. I. Think that you know he's one of those he's almost like. You can create something out of nothing just because of his size. Because, of the you know the way that he looks at least from Africa, so you can create it. You can create a monster out of nothing you know because. Honest talent wise I. don't really see him. He's big. The Guy Walked out of the League scared of him. You know. That that that seems threatening online. Who was the guy that walked out? Read because? The. Did when I got a chance to see him fire somebody that was willing to fight back. He didn't look good at all. Wow, impress it all FA, okay, but let me ask you this. Though with those abilities I understand what you're saying, I I. Don't fully agree, but I fully understand what you're saying. It's like he's got all the components, but that don't mean that he's going to actually be able to accomplish anything real in the boxing ring. 'cause high reach athleticism. None of that translates I. Get, or it doesn't have to translate, but let me ask you if you had a canvas like that. With the right hand which I think, Ronnie Shields is. Can't you show somebody in? That we hold on with that. Yeah Tournament! Is something perfect? Thank you know. Don't get me wrong I. Mean I'm not I'm not really I'm not really like. I'm speaking of what I, see right now. I'm not speaking of was his potential things like that because I mean. The big huge guy. He can't punch. You know, but I mean right now. He's basically he's like a novelty. That's what he is right now. He's not he's not A. He's not approving commodity. That did anything for anybody to say that okay ego beat while he's going to beat fury. He's GonNa be Joshua I. Mean so I mean when he hasn't done anything to that level to that. Manitou for people for the fans to say, Oh do this. I mean what is his background? What has he done? We're speaking about that earlier coach. with the guys here and You Know Jay Princeton. Fa Hits harder than wilder and the. We were talking about what what's his next step? WHO's the next guy that we're going to? You know he's GonNa step up to is GonNa make us believers. And I mean. Do you have any anybody in mind that you'd like to see him? come up against at this point to make you a believer in the heavyweight division. Well I mean. I mean the thing is that there's other guys that are. Lower Than Capri guys I mean you have dylan white you have. A. Guy. He ain't ready for no daily and white. With that, but that's what I'm saying. I mean now. That's coming out of your mouth. So that means that you don't think he's as good as everybody that as. Well! This, just levels, and he's only like thirteen, and no, he ain't ready for Dylan I. We were talking about this earlier I think. Dominic Brazil's dangerous for him. He and. A world title Challenger like that like. Dominic Brazil Knocked out in both title shots like he still was gained. You know he got. He got dog in them I. Don't know I. Don't know but Yeah. We definitely got a bunch of questions from the public. We let them know you were going to be on the show, but these aren't just random. These all our most loyal listeners, so that won't be nothing crazy We guys first ones from. From James Vow Dez coaching he says first of all. Thanks for coming on the show. My question is what are your thoughts on Marie? Sleaze statements saying he has signed the contract to fight Earl Spencer. The Raiders Stadium in Las, Vegas and what's going on with them at this time as he posted on his I g that he was stabbed nineteen eleven times and was in an induced coma. I I'm. I don't know nothing about it but I know. For a fact that he's not ready for or anything like that, but you know when I mean. Maybe he's creating his own stories because I mean. I mean I don't I? Don't think earl, even know the ball fighting him. You know, and so it's. It's something that just been put out there I. Think you know these behind it. He's manifesting in man. He's trying to speak that into existence speaking, is it? Co Cheeky, he came on the box in boys, and said this live on air, and that's where it all started. The show was lightweight so. We paid ten. Url tweeted about. It was crazy. Happened on the show. For. The next one's coming from bicker wailers. He says in your opinion. What is the boxing game missing these days? In my opinion, it's good teachers trainers in parentheses. I. Mean I think that that's part of it, but? I. Don't know, I. Mean it's just a boxing has changed so much in. The one thing is this is that I think that. You know if you're up and coming boxer. You have to pick. You have to pay. What. You WanNa be do you WANNA be a good guide. You WanNa. Be a villain, you WANNA. Be You know the people's champion I mean. Especially when you have good fighter. You, know you can choose to be. You know the oil you can choose to be. Agent. You can choose to be in and being in. The. Old Things actually are part of you know in in not only a part of boxes part of marketing in part of your payday. You need to know your market. You know in. If if you're going to be a bad guy, you gotta be able to fight your ass off, or you got to be one. That can't shut up in like age of. Continue to talk shit win. Lose draw because basically people. Adrian is still relevant in will remain. Whether Song could've is not because of his ability in the thing is. Is that because the box in public? Won't be done with Adrian. Bonner, unless he's counted out, he has to not get off the canvas because if he doesn't if if if if continues because he. The Guy can't fight in guys tough durable in in if that doesn't happen. He's still gonNA. Be Loving because people are gonNA continue to pay their money Oh. In see him get. And that's the same thing I made of mobile eight you may. He didn't make money off. People Funding Woodham y'all. kind of like white now of course, Steve's it he kinda at. Easing bracket now where I mean he's been, he's been as. Somewhat of a bad boy, but at the same time you seem like he's trying to clean up his image, so he's got pick where he wants to be. Because the one thing about it is this. If you're a bad boy, you gotta be able to fight. You gotta be back Shit up if you WANNA be a good guy. You gotta be also willing to. You know you gotta be willing to stay in that mode almost fucking twenty four seven Ikea. Andre War. Yeah I mean Andrea. Andrea is a great candidate for that because he's a guy who has no baggage. You know I mean basically he's. He's a you know, but I think I think with what was that city? Even though he's the perfect guy. But. He didn't. He didn't show his charisma. You know I mean he's a good looking guy. Can Fight I mean humble, gracious every every every everything that you looking for in a fighter. Andre was that but the one thing that he didn't have? In, maybe that was his own fought was the fact that? He didn't call out anyone. In the division two that was considered a elected. You know in basically in that. How? That's how you get paid as when you say you at least got to say. On, the best in his division or I WANNA, fight this guy, I wanNA. Fight this guy, because now all of a sudden. Even, though you a good guy, you're still giving you the fence something you give me a fan something that says. I'M GONNA. Prove that I'm the best style. So the CAN. Can we hear your thoughts on on Crawford? Because, you know. I think that obviously fights with browner or winnable for Crawford, but I feel like that's what he needs in terms of marketability popularity. Aggravate Crawford I mean is. Tremendous fighter I mean also. You know I don't think he even found out I. Don't think he knows we're here. He should be in terms of good guy. Bad Guy Whatever but I mean. He can fly and but like you said it. Is Sad, but is true. He need aging bar. He needed a fighter. that. You know that has a big name digital him. And he needs to defeat them. You know and I mean because the one thing is, this is that you know like I said I, mean even though. In My. In my beat runner. The thing exists still. Gone is not to be glowing with one of before going to be there for the next guy, because even if he gets beat going to talk shit. Now, bronner's never been stopped. You think you think CA- stop them because when the going gets tough, Brown gets tougher. He dropped porter twelve. You know. He broke down jaw where people people criticize them for them Donna fight, but I think that was one of the toughest. Adrian Brodie Feis I've ever seen, and then even in their manual terrified like Emmanuel Ame, no world-beater, but again he dug deep, got a late round style knock down, I think it was like maybe nine for ten th now around. Maybe knock them down in Cincinnati, but. Can, Crawford Stop, Boehner, you think. I mean that would be. That would be a huge use stamp of approval for him to go to the next level, but it's Kinda like you, said I. Mean Boehner is extremely extremely tough I. mean the only mark on him now is more so is that when you get in with elite fighters? He don't let his hands go like like like he should. But coaches. Is that mental like. Have you dealt with that in the past? Like why is it got at talented amateur fights? Four time world champion spaw the best them, but on fight night. He owned defense he blocking. Well! I mean we'll some I mean some fighters just our way I. Mean you have some fighters in the gym that are spectacular in on fight night in the ring. The average you know, but the one thing with with like I said is. He's the type that he's always entertaining. Win The draw you know Kinda like when he lost the wooder. He was you know it was like he won? Because he's doing all the talking and he's talking about his dad talking about everything else you know and In in so basically it's almost like even though Sean. One to fight you know Bondsteel. Walk the away you know. With the Sunday, you know I mean so I mean in that works for them. A got the next question coming from George. Foster, who do you think has been the most dominant fighters since Floyd Mayweather? Most dominant yeah since Floyd Mayweather. Lido can lead the you know Mareo are Mexican brethren mentioning. It might be some small guy somewhere China or in. Some. No. I'm just saying because Oh. No, you on it. There's a lot of good good small fires I fight or They. Don't get the attention they deserve. Now. You're right. I was watching a Honcho a boxing Honcho and they were talking about that guy. I forgot how to pronounce his name that beat Mayweather record retired. With fifty four, I mean listening Straw. They'll listen, but that's the way he saying. Though it's somebody that we don't even we can't even really gauged. Out to that guy above fighters. On out of things. Of Say Calendar Point, but not Jeff I want to get your thoughts. There's GonNa. Be along with me because I got to pick your brain. Obviously, you've seen floyd. Do what he'd done the canal also. Tell. You never think like money. Wise mean I guess just competitive competition. You Ain't never want that rematch. We can mellow No one thing one thing in boxing. I was talking about this last night. The one thing about boxing is this. You don't have to leave match anyone. because. That night. You knew who was gonNA fight you. into. Did match here, but. Like trying to like is I'll be not know. About. How many times on just you or me as a person, okay, have a chance. The? Only Like wanting to. Wanting to build nine, that should happen so when that moment happens in you, don't you? Don't catch it that show fucking for not sure. That one. They don't want to give you a rematch. They don't have to I agree, but what I'm saying is. We've seen the evolution of Nilo since then like people literally right articles or start conversations like since mayweather. He's a different fighter. Since he launched a mayweather, he's learned a lot since he lost a mayweather. He even moves like for like that's all. That's mainly for a minute. Agreement with that, but that's still has nothing to do. With vice man okay. Better to the. One thing is this is that is Connecticut Time Now? Just like when foibe? that's all it is. Time right now so I mean you got to actually. Take your head off to guy that you know that. They got cooking school in and learn from it. And how? The planet to his own is to his own fight game. Before I go real quick back to the of. I just got to ask you ask the lower right and. And I just wanted to know where you part like intricate part of that can't win. Floyd Mayweather went against asking. no. Funny I. Is Funny because right before fought Oscar I actually spy with asking about like about two three months before the fight was made Dan. Fight with mate solely because I had no pudgy pulp. South some new for saying that that's crazy. I've never heard my is you say that so shot out? See You. Will. I know that and they knew that I couldn't hurt them. So there was no chance of winning because I had no chance to knock him out, and so that's why I've got big. I was just like man. Boxing is You know what I'm saying. He had inside on the lower. Right so. This is what it is. You get in there with them for night, isn't it? Isn't go to the next morning because he's from grand rapids I. Write this John. Feliciano says what's your favorite place to eat or bar to go in and grand rapids? How many is? No No. I. Last time I was, there was when my mom passed. But. Realistically. Being away from wherever I've been away from grand rapids. For. been living here lower than I lived in grand rapids. Dishes more my home. This. Mom than. At the time there was like some Mexican restaurant. That I used to love to go to, but I can't even remember the name of it was like thirty years ago. Man. All right well, the next was coming from. The accurate, the ACA that Koto Photo. We was murderer man's name. Shut up to you. Well, he says good day coach with the recent news of Miller positive PD test. He's talking about Durell Big Baby Miller. How transparent are fighters in regards to nutrition and supplements with you. It seems that in recent years whenever a fighter get caught with PD's the trainer say I had no clue this was going on. Be well. Well I'm being the world. I mean sometimes. That very well could be true. Because one thing you gotta realize that this. Boxing has changed I. Mean Back in back in the days of homily. You know fighters. Before that in a little bit after that they never had the focused strength training. You know in those are usually the one that you know are ones that give of given those fires supplements in things like that because I mean a trend of. You know most trainers do not even believe in taking supplements because it's almost like your. Your mom product you my product when that when you go out, there, display your talent. Your product, your my work and so basically I. Don't want my work. By some book. You did. I, Jeff is there any way you can move and make sure that you connect to your Wifi because you go in and out sometimes I mean we're hearing you, but we are having some distortion here in l.. Freeze freezing every now and again, but yet doing me go to the next one. Okay coach next one's coming from BC he says in your opinion. Who Do you see dominating the welterweight division with an undefeated record at the end of their career? I mean course I mean you have proffered in Spence? WHO DO BELIEVE I've to? In the division. In lieu is kind of. Is kind of like whoever wins might be that guy, but at the same time maybe not because you know Like a he like you said I mean maybe there will be reimagined in May end up being a trilogy I. Don't know, but I mean right now. Of course, folks on on that division I mean it. It would have to be the one to. Next was coming from Kelley to the UK says what's Good Jeff. Thank you for coming on the box. Invoice I'm a big fan of your youtube channel. Can you discuss with us? The problems you have encountered putting content on Youtube because the box voice have faced similar issues in the past respect Chan. Well, basically Not necessarily problem with content. Our problem is that. We've been dubbed as a a PG channel, and so at some point we had you know that A. Of things like that. Used to. The younger kids who actually deserve to be promoted on my. A kid in the gym. That's like a thirteen nine. He's only like. Forty years old. You know so basically we try to try out best to you know to to actually outlet. Let the boxing. The boxing will know who who he is or what. Ends up happening. With the Me Now. Yeah, you're good. Okay okay is basically. No, but that's what happened to our channel that they ended up taking away our comments and I. think that people think that we've we've done that. We've been trying to get comments back. With the last two years also so disabled your comments because they don't want. Other troll! Weird commenting right sense once every. Say was pedophile actually making comments about the kids that we put on our channel. So, disgusting role that's crazy year, but again, but at the same time to. y'All accountable fully for that. That's not and those their trip in Bro. Question as the account giant we. Let you? Do you feel that? Do you feel that that's affected? Your Algorithm meaning like it's harder for your video to get views. Are they withholding your channel from certain people? Do you feel that there's been a change in viewership or subscriber because you've actually blown up man like you got over two hundred thousand now. I think that I think that. I think it hurt our channel. I mean it definitely hurt our channel because a lot of people. That actually. Post on post on our Youtube Channel COURSE THEY WANNA. See their own comments. You know they don't and I mean of course in, and maybe they. Want to go back and forth with someone else that. Don't agree with them. You know so I mean without having our communist of course Lot you know and I mean at one point I mean. Our channel was really really skyrocketing in I. Mean I think that a lot of that was because of the you know the contact content of feedback that rule getting. In so now, of course, everything is slow down even more so with the pandemic his wealth. So. You know I mean it's not our fought in. That's why we created a new channel just the weather channel and and we also have the judgment with this chill podcast. So we're trying to. Do you know open the doors? To new new subscribers, you know for those channels. Yeah, you know your videos pop up my feet, but I'm not who you want because I mean, it's not that I'm not who you want like a been subscribed like a been on youtube watching by. You know what I mean like, so they know that's GonNa go, but it's those people that are for the first time discovering youtube burden the last year, and you know what I mean like haven't been on up to the game for Awhile That's been going on on twitter to to be honest with you, but Yemen. That's tough. Bro, that that that's so tough because Yeah, you provide some great insights I've been watching for years, so yeah, not comments are. An integral part of Hugh. You know that's where that's where you get everybody debating and talk. Engagement not only that now they've added the ability to like I think it's called the plot where you pay for comment on a video that's already uploaded, so it's also taken a means of revenue because on a live stream you could get super chats, which is also part of commenting, so it definitely sucks men, and hopefully you know being as though years because you are, you could get a hold of someone in. In Youtube Dick Address that, but we x one David Maldonado, says what's up, Jeff I met you once at the Barclay, and took a pic with you and you was very cool down to earth anyway. I have a fantasy question for you without being biased. How would these fights look like and how your nephew floyd junior do against these guys whom I believe style wise would have given floyd his toughest fights. Roberto Duran at one thirty five sugar Ray Leonard at one forty seven Thomas, hearns at one, forty, seven and Paul Williams at one forty seven. Think that. Probably ran been. The trump is fight. Auto Auto Guys I. think that The Ram would have been tough. Duran ran. To. Look I'm not a history guy, but I went back. Watch some stuff and. They of make a seemed like durant was the undisciplined one, so would employ. Just catch a guy that really doesn't take it seriously. Or is that a misconception about durant? Not Be. A misconception about doing I mean I think that. Is like this I. think that put it this way. I think that. The ran was a guy who worked extremely hard, but also you know still may have played hard. That, way himself, you know I. Mean You know Floyd Getting Ready for fight? He's eating bugsy. One hundred percent discipline on me. He worked extremely extremely hard for for those days where he may have had those cravings, so he was able to do it and able to. You know to get away with. Okay, I'm taking over right now. I'm sorry I I. CAn't. I can't let you say that. 'cause I've seen I've seen floyd do that, right? Listen. Let me let me just ask you. You can break the news to me if you want. I'll be heartbroken, but just let let me ask you. Is that something only afford? Mayweather could do because I used to have that mentality I kill myself in the gym. People want to laugh, but I would powerlift I would nothing less than two and a half hours every. Every time I was there I. Never Lost No weight and I knew because I was putting on weight, but even when I was cutting I couldn't just eat whatever, but is era like? Could I do that like if I woke up at night ran, woke up in the morning ran like kill myself. Could I just eat Burger King? Like could I do that forever? I will only if knowing. I. Know when I'm saying that I'm saying that when you get that urge, it's almost like when you see Roy. Do something like that. It's Kinda like you doing what you're doing, but you you having a cheat day. May. You've been training so hard. You've been working so hard in the things that you. Normally eat when you're not training, you know sometimes you just, don't you? Sometimes, you just can't give them up one hundred percent. In basically, if you're gonNA, just do it one time throughout your training camp. That's funny. Okay. I had Tim Tim store about Holyfield one time telling them like There was a cookie on the table and he told them that. That's that's a that's a two mile cookie and says it says like I could imagine you know how many calories you gotTa for, and then you gotta go run. Burn those calories off so anything you put in your system you. Got Got. Back on. But we'll take it to the next one, Jeff. We appreciate your time and. This was coming out from Steve says thanks for coming on the show. Do you believe that boxing can put on the elite fights during the current pandemic? On I think the the League fight could be put on, but just. They're going to have to. You know. come up with some. Type of system. Where the spacing you know only so many people so many seats in so many areas I mean. Of course it's going to hurt the business the business side of it, but it's still keep the business alive. You know and I. Mean That's basically that's basically where we're at with. Anybody that's involved in boxing. This is the only way that we're going to be able to you know be able to. Watch these up and coming fighters in you know the fighters the future you know. The world champions and things like that is. We're going to have to. You as a whole, you know. I'm a order for everything to get back to normal as close as to normal as could be, I'm going to have to be rules and regulations that. At Our. That's going to have to be accommodated. You know in these in these. next does come in from sway, says thanks for coming on the show. Who are your top three path? A pound fight is at the moment. Let me, see. CAMELLO Crawford. In. I don't know I'm having a hard time with the third one I, don't. Know I mean I would say I would suspect but I. don't really want because. Is Activity He. When he comes back, you know what he has until it actually happens. You know I mean us one of my favorite fighters. He was hired on my You know on my on my list, but I mean with this happening I mean I just can't really put him back in there until he's proven that. He! He still can. Deliver. All Right! take. We are GONNA. Have a interjection question. Do you think Tyson fury is? One of the most talented hey weights you've ever seen. Do you think wilder has any chance in a rematch? And Eric. Is Yeah. He's he's extremely talented. I think that he's probably one of the most elusive. Got For his size I won't say as a heavyweight, but just. For his own size I mean he's you know he's phenomenal in far as the rematch with water I think that water needs. tween. Think. He needs a I. Think you need a confidence. Boost in to keep to go back. Fight in final fight. You know where you actually almost nothing. In the fight I mean it's almost like. You have to get your provider back in. Only you'll get your bottle back is get back out there and knocking. Somebody out, because that's what he does what he does. You know I can't see him going. Into this fight, a third fight without fighting between in thinking, it'll be successful. I can't see. All right next, one's coming from. Jab Left Hook says three key tips for heavyweights and training God. Bless own Jeff. Heavyweight specifically they'll right. Heavyweight straining. Robbie I think the one thing the most important thing. Is knowing because. As a heavyweight. You don't you don't really have a weight limit? And so you have to know what. You know what is the best wait? For you in going to get view. You know what's GonNa give you. The best performance is is I. think that's the most important And what was the other part of the question? was just three. Three EBISU TIPS I guess. Three key tips that you got for heavyweights and train. That's all. Weightlifting nowadays right like you gotta put weight lifted in there, because the. How does that he you know? Here's a powerlifter, so he's big elite weightlift. Earlier but for heavyweights I'm saying the I don't believe in what period. Wow. At. All, because one thing about. Me To lot. Of Ways. No no no I'm not saying that you can't gain power. But. When you live what? You sacrifice you. Get the power. But you get fucking bit tired so fast. WORTH IT! because. Your arms turns into weights. It's almost like. Nine. Nine. Hundred pounds so what? Don't don't let early. You I mean you. You get box because if you got somebody that good enough decent to stay away from you. Just, probably one or two rounds? That's all it takes. You know me because I mean weightlifting I mean the one thing I think that when it comes to the other thing I'm GonNa. Get to the second thing. The second thing is basically. Actually you still have to have the mentality of being a small man. You have to get out there. Work you know in in those type of things because that's important. You know that's very important meaning, so that's I think that's the second most important thing. And Let me, see in end. Just been dedicated to crap is the third thing. Is that in s in s pretty much it but like I said I mean. You know. the way the way thing is seems great because waste. Make you fast weights. Make you have power waste actually drained the fuck out of you. That Roma my legs. Let me tell you right now. I have monster lake monster legs so his squad over five hundred pounds, so he says they're worth nothing. Do Three rounds of shot of a target on. My legs aren't were nothing. After that nothing I've done for the day. Your. Free! Next one's coming from Newark New Jersey King. I mean of Essex says. Peace Champ and my condolences to you and your family for the loss of a boxing legend me being from New Jersey I've heard floyd talk about a time in his life that he spent in New Brunswick New Jersey are Abe. Are you able to talk about that? Are you familiar with that time of his life? I mean. I can't really say unfamiliar with it. because. I mean he was in New Brunswick in. That's that's basically. That's his mother's side of the family, and so in. Basically, he was living there in. At that time I mean I, don't I don't really know too much about what was going on down there, so I can't really speak on. Night coming from Ryan or Rourke. actually read actually asked that question We're going to go to Jane's vow Dez says aerobics. We're going to go to the next one big casual if wilder were to win the third fight. Do you think the fourth fight can be? The biggest fight in heavyweight history can't remember heavyweights of this caliber. Fighting four times has to time. Will I think. Yeah, I think I don't know for the be still I still wouldn't think that will be the biggest fight history I do think that it. You know I don't even think. Heavyweight heavyweight history heavyweight history because he said the hasn't been four four. rematches of this. On That, but what I'm saying is that you know still I don't know. It'll be I. mean put it this way. It will be a major major part of history and And of course they would have to be for fight. Right next is coming from Boston Jared says. What do you think team can? That'll has struggled to get big fights made. Why do you think team can never have struggled to get big fights made? Do you think on that was considered a great fighter by his peers or just a great payday? Well, I'm I. mean the ones that he this that. whoever just said what what they said is not true. Casinos the money, so nulla can fight any fucking. Buddy wants to end. There's not one person in boxing that turnover down. So that's not that's not true. That can get no fight. You know I mean guilty. No. TURNED THEM DOWN Jeff. Thank. To live probably as Million people wanted. But Second Part. Only. You only get one part though the next one is from Oh in Connecticut says what's up? Chan, we appreciate you coming on the show. My question is why do you think tank never accepted the offer to make the full time move and trained in Vegas at Mayweather Jim. I mean that's personal I. Don't I. Don't know I mean. He has his trainers that living living walked Maurice Foam. He probably just didn't want to leave. ME. Like me as as as a trainer, I mean even though. As. I, mean they might not want to change their life impact in moved to Vegas because they got families day and I mean he's not fighting not fighting every week. I mean they have families that they live with in their in their own state. which attract what you think about? Devante sanded Deborah Haney Floyd both the ops when he seeing Devon and floyd training, he kinda got a little jealous. Mean don't get me wrong I mean that's understandable to a degree. But at the same time I mean floyd. No, you'll have known devon long before he known Devante. In basically is kind of one of those things that you know at the time. You're doing it, not even thinking business you're just you're just doing the net. Is a kid that I know growing up, so you know I'm helping a little bit. So I, think that what it was more than anything and in as a as a looking at a scene something on Youtube where basically? Troy Kinda addressed it. He basically said that. These guys never gonNA, fight, Anyway On. that's bad news. We wanted that Fi. Yeah Joyce George from Dallas. Fort Worth says if Manny Pacquiao beats triple G. does that cement his legacy legacy as a top three all-time pound for pound. Cop Three, she number one I mean. How can a guy go? NBC fucking dime way. Class champion and not. There's no one that. Even can focus something like that. You know I mean so I mean. I mean it is what it is I mean I think that. You know him trying even just trying it is. That's the reason why he's doing it. He's doing that. Solely because His legacy it. It has nothing to do with because i. mean he could fight. If, I this. He can fight Crawford. He can fight too much else if he wanted to. Just be a world champion continue to be a world champion. But. He walks away from the sport. He wants to be able to do something that. It's going to be so far. It's going to. Last forever. I the next. And it's more left Jeff only two more apologies. Okay. Hey, don't forget. All, my classes absolutely. Louis Chant we. But but this next one is from Dennis in Tampa Florida. He says thanks for joining us. Enjoy your boxing channel my questions. Do you have any Hector Camacho stories, thanks. That really I mean the only only a story hector is kind of like I remember when him and Roger was actually in the same way class and they were supposed to. I, mean will ryder wanted to fight him, but hector did one way to. fire watcher in Seoul. They were in in Texas. that's back when Josephine, Abercrombie at you know the big ranch. And they were both there in in a spar in Rogers got the best of of of of actor in of course. To. Play. Better adjusted. You know and that basically. I've met Hector. I didn't get a chance to talk too much. I mean I. Know a son hold out, but you know but Great Guy from from what I know I mean he you know. Eating's always use always happy and friendly. You know so I mean those mom, my memories of it. This. Next does come from Joseph Rodriguez from Texas, he says. Do you feel? Floyd is under appreciated everyone. These days is obsessed with the undefeated record and I feel like fans. Don't see the value in how hard that was to accomplish. Well. I'll take that. The one thing with this situation I think that floyd is not going to be. What would what would you say? appreciate it to? He's probably about. Ten you, move from work. Because the did a be someone sitting at say in the Little Kid wants to learn how to box. He's GonNa bring out of fucking tape a what. He's going to. Watch. This guy in this is the guy that you should be trying to emulate or imitate in it until I? Mean that's what he's going to be appreciated when when he long removed from the sport because right now. He's not been appreciated because. Don't like image in his image has nothing to do with his ability to box. You have to separate the two you know. I mean if you don't like the person just because they spend money, look for they WANNA buy. And they did. It was who. took the risk to get the money as I. Mean it's Asinine, but that's that's why that's why people don't like for is not because of his boxing. Nothing to do with boxing at all. You know is just the fact that he's flashy and he lives a high profile style. To the last one coach come from G trae. He says. Who would you pick a fight tank corps? In Saturday happening. No I seven devastated. Coming on me, I guess I gotTA. Kinda wait a little bit before would even you know because I mean. I mean. She has to go up. Improve you know I mean that he could take those punches at that heavier weight in that it's not. Affected him. Because I mean once you get hit by tanks. You know when you get hit clean. You know that could be the end of the fight. So. I wouldn't want. I wouldn't want to be too fast to to judge a fight like that when both guys are not in the same class. I am. So obviously Jeff. We know that you're doing. Your. You've taken your your world class training virtual and I'm very excited to talk about this because I feel like. People should have been taken advantage of the you know. Internet and I'm happy to see a world renowned trainer like yourself take advantage, and you started your own virtual online boxing classes. I'm assuming it's got to be going well for you with with a big, you know successful youtube channel the name mayweather classes have to be hard to get into or do you have available spots for people? yeah, I mean it's GonNa be available spots. actually I don't have the link, but on my I'll put it in the live chat right now. Yeah so. Basically yes, I mean this is for everyone i. mean is for you. Know is not necessarily so much for. Top echelon boxes. Guys in also guys anyone that wants to you. Putting. Shady in pretty much actually. WanNa learn a craft. You know so. It's not no one's off limits. You know is is the fact that I don't see. Unless, there's just some fighter out there. That just loves the. Train. But. They they could get in touch with come to Vegas and work with me, but for someone that can't you know that especially with the stuff going on now in you don't have access to gym you don't have you know access to being able to travel to Vegas, or something like that, so I think that this. Is is is necessary. It's necessary. For me in necessary for. Anyone that actually also. He didn't get in shape I. Think is more I think. It's more about getting shape. As opposed to everyone that that gets on is not Ashley. Try to be a fighter. Yeah that'd be perfect for me right now. I'll. I would love to do something like that for sure. That's Jim. Get that link going. Real quick. We got one from our UK co-hosts. He's obviously at work right now. Route to something were actually four something. Coach, Midi Says X. Jeff about George hit hard Hillard still training together, UK, stand up! Well actually he, why of course with pandemic? Going on I, mean he had to go back to to UK so I mean until anything in not into things, open up. Will we be working together Hopefully soon we'll be working together again. All right, so you're saying. The online classes are for all levels. There's no you don't have to be afraid that you never box. It will sign up in betraying virtually by you now. Is it live or prerecorded training sessions? No the lie. I'M GONNA. Be Interactive in actually after every session. Is, kind of going to be like what I'm doing with. You guys right now. Don't get culinary session. You can ask me anything You can actually even give me some ideas of what I should maybe add to the cloud acids to enhance to make better in or what? Know. What's what's most important that? Do you WANNA learn? Somebody's. Not I. DIDN'T WANNA interrupt grant finished finished with? A number. Or Base I just wanted to be a class, whereas whereas more interactive is not just much about me i. want everyone's input so I can. Hopefully accommodate everyone in every way absolutely and I was leading to that question how many slots or how many people can join per class when when they join up for like a say a Tuesday class or whatever schedule Haufer? Well I. Don't necessarily think that there's a limitation because there's going to be done to zoom in saw. Zoom. You have access to me. Need so zoom doesn't have a limit on how many participants are two hundred or fifty or something like that? Is Up to really high number. Yeah, I just got a note. Yeah has gotta be one hundred hundred. Hundred Limited no and the reason I, ask coach. Demeanor active. Yeah, you're going to be interacted with a lot of link in the live chat because I'm sure those spots are going to be filling up rapidly, not now. Have you done any classes or is this about the launch? This is about the launch Susan get off here. GotTa session already started. Get started today. They will be away for day. I 'cause I was GONNA. You know. Like since you're getting people from around the world, have you run across any talent? I guess that hasn't happened yet. Book you never know you never know who's going to be willing to do a virtual class because what you could be. A fighter from another country happens good. Definitely and I mean I'll be doing classes. You know three times a week lender fighting so I mean. and. Hopefully, People that are out there on the fence. Right now is is something that's affordable for every guy wh-which. Do you have different price points? of course I, mean you have, of course you always have where you have You know personal. You know I mean of course at at a cost you the more. Where is just you in not? You're not involved with everybody else. and New specifically being taught exactly what you can ask me anything that you want in our. Will you know do my best to deliver what it is you're trying to? You what you want done. Mean I think it's I. Think it's. Pretty affordable I mean it's it's hundred and fifty dollars. You know so I think that you know it's affordable for though. Is that really want or per class per week? How how's that work one fifty five? Per Class. And forty minute classes. Yes. Forty minutes, maybe a little more, but like I said you know. Yeah I I definitely want to do the community because I. Want to actually become more personable with everyone. That, that is involved. You know I wanna be able to you know. Reach out to somebody people maybe meet some. One day. No definitely. I I believe you might run across a lot of talent. I think it's a fantastic idea. During this time, there's people that can't get to the gym and you just never know who you can find man that could be another way of scouting talent man who knows I. Mean You know? Obviously you'll probably get your people that just want to be in shape, but I'm I'm I'm sure there's going to be dozens that want to be trained by Jeff? Mayweather even if it's virtually, so I've seen other people kind of doing virtual training. Will you be holding the pads and I gotTa fake like I'm here no more or doing something different. No. Actually I have I have a fighter, a young fighter that. I actually do train in actually I'm going to be doing this while his own. He because he converted his his garage into a boxing gym. And so. So, it's going to be very intimate in is going basically just GonNa be him you know, and so I'M GONNA! Be Trying to teach everyone. The basics hopefully who who the? Yield is going to actually do this hopefully a pair with someone. You know that can actually you know? Give them a chance to actually do exactly what I'm doing in exactly what I'm showing them by maybe having someone holding amidst for them or something like that because I don't know how I don't know how much would, you will be able to download from just watching me. Doing something with someone else, but not. You're not doing with anyone. Gem another little business idea that you can just add onto your schedule him, and you should only not only think of the fighters, but trainers right like for instance a up and coming trainers trainers that are aspiring. Maybe they're just still in the amateurs. Maybe you should do some online boxing training courses for trainers. They want to up their game. You know even if it's business side of this. You know like you said you said something on his interview. That people goes over them. You know the the popularity you know being able to talk. It's not just fighting. Some changes may not know that, so that's just another little thing that you can do maybe a little course that some of these trainers. You know click on a link and and learn some of these inside tips that none. I'll not only are the squared circle, but once again. Can you let anyone know where to get? you know your boxing classes Is there a specific you know? Landing pages like Jeff Mayweather Dot Com I. Mean what I have sent here from. OUR MUTUAL FRIEND IS A. Calender calendar calendar, Lee Dot. Com Jeff Mayweather Boxing July twentieth. so that's one url. That's what I've been sharing but I don't know if you have like a dot, com or social media. You want to give out for anyone that wants more info. If you want anymore full I, mean you can go to my either either my facebook page or my. Instagram page in our respond. And so I mean 'cause I love interacting anyway, but disagree a chance to actually have a reason for me to be interacting with you because it's business. Well Jeff. Man I wanNA. Thank you obviously for your time. It's it's been a pleasure and once again I want to congratulate you on the on the growth of your Youtube, channel and obviously launching your your virtual online box classes. We looked at get you back on and hope that the classes are successful and that you know we see you back again and same thing for Vidal Riley. Shot out to him and hopefully things shaking for him as well. All Right Ladies and Gentlemen World Renowned Trainer Jeff Mayweather and JEB. You don't WanNa, give out any social media. A basically. Jeff Mayweather just use one I. Just use my end. On My facebook. and. Jessica! Whether you, have it ladies and gents catch them on Jeff, mayweather on all forms of social media guide and sign up to those classes. Make sure you drop them comment. Let them know that you listen to the interview here on the box and voice. Jeff enjoy the rest of your day there you have it guys Jeff Mayweather. We're GONNA open up these phone lines and get out to the people. Let's go on out the number to call in one four to five, five, six, nine, fifty to forty, one one one time voice your opinion on the Voice of the people. Outline remember Uh. Five stars on Itunes. These calls are brought to you by L. Camino. Services experts in electric vehicle, charging stations for consultations and turnkey installation. visit us at El Camino electrical services dot com subscribe to Youtube, dot com slash boxing voice for the latest and greatest interviews with favorite fighters so guys before we open it up I mean. CHICAGO TOUGHER FIGHT FOR Valdez over Shell oers Valdez, keeping real. Well. You know what the thing is with. That ness is that when you say tougher Fi? You gotTa tell me what tougher means right 'cause. It's kind of tough that we're looking at here. Both fights are tough. You know you gotTA. Miguel chose GONNA. Make it a tough pressure fight. Then you've got Chicago. WHO's GonNa? Make it a sniper precision fight, and you just gotTa Watch that, so you know it's going to be a tough five for him regardless. I. Think is Medicare. Just you know represents a more high, paced, high pace, fight, and and a more rugged fight because of the styles. What about say like this, okay? Maybe, I'm wrong. I'm just throwing this out because that sounds really cool to me. Chak or hurts your okay. Burchett Body Shukor hurts your pride in that fight, so if you talking about tougher, it's like yeah, it's tougher for me to go in and get out class. You, know. Sukur and fill like some type of way like Whoa like I'm not on that level I never was. But at the same time you can look at Birch and say well. That's going to be tougher on the body because he's going to be coming forward. It's going to suck you into these fights that you don't WanNa fight so from that perspective yet is the tougher fights, the harder night's work. You know what I'm saying like. If you a cab driver, you know, it's like you know the night law I don't. Don't know that's probably a bad metaphor I can't think of a good metaphor right now, but I'm trying to say it's like you you you go into work you going have one type of bad day versus the other amber chat represents the bed day where you all bruised up and bloody in in in. It's just a tougher work in that sense of it, but you're absolutely right. It could be said in different ways. All right well, let me I'll going out to the callers and get this thing started trae in Bay what do. T! Train a bag online once going twice, J. T.. New, Orleans. To make covers really chiefly ship a climate. Deal with coupon. Does I'm talking to you the way I wanNA talk to you. Turn station. Was A was. A good interview. With Jeff Mayweather. I. I know you big on that Bring up their bank because you'd be talking about a lot on the show, but he personally I don't i. don't think that fight us nothing for. 'cause when he beat them, they'll go. Yeah, he was supposed to be grown so popularity. It won't really bring popularity because. Is Really. He's Coppola, but he is like he bought one. Really get nothing out there fight. Call on broader will get his another has. Talk. He Shit running out. But that's all yeah gift from that will beside the good interview and good questions are ex-. That's all. I. We Got Kim in Florida me. Double check, let me see who's just listening by just listening. Please put that in a chat, so we know what's going on. The. Team in Florida. What up doe there I opened the door for audiences in all of sports to go back to the way, it wasn't the same. Fights making ten million dollars. I'm not really worried about what He. believed. Took Ten. I guess he just listening well. We always liked that intros worth the intro. Yeah, that's say. Hey. got. Info with the phone loose. WE'RE GONNA AND Fellow. And he comes from. India. ooh! SAT OUT AIR, body? Further my audio sound. Ain't nobody jump in I must be. Good. I shot out the. Saying. Cut Out two seconds. Where we say. You. got. More at nine hundred. Ninety three. That's that's. Now, and then you take too big of a Pu. tickle tickle the throat man. Vive. Clough Yeah man shot outside out of me. What some good insight and shot out the other strain of Wilson. With damaging at least they're working with Dan. Pigs I kinda miss. He was the second his his. His main fighter is hit. You're rich. Richardson's I mean written. Richardson Hitching Richard Hitchens. Richardson is Richardson hit Trajan. Yeah. It was up Mabbutt all that. Guy Man interview. You'll mash out everybody I'm up I chan. We've got some super chats. Can Stone said? Why does Chicago stay at one twenty six and finding out about it now, but it is just moving up because he can't make one twenty two Chicago's moving because he can make one thirty like he was walking around for the fight with warrants, Warrenton went to match them, and then things is what it is. We answered and acts coach. MITZI DUBS IF FLOYD NEW DEVON I but to me. Should not train him since there is a possible tank. Since there is a possible tank, could devon a tank versus Devon also Devon didn't sign with Floyd. Yeah, but I mean the deal wasn't should've, but he didn't. Yeah, had deal wasn't right. He went where he got the more bread. I just meant like in terms of like helping amount training. You got tank on one side, and then Devon as a possible fight. You know that's all I mean like. Aerobic wish we gotTA. We gotta get He's he's super chats. Says we gotta get more easily brother on the show. So. We'll see. Could we get that man? But the problem is you know like I don't want to interview a guy based off. You know his brother's issues in what shortcomings in mean real quick. Mario is that vow over there? We're going to let me see. I think Steve and Chicago. That's that's E- from Philly Steve You just listening. Philly next. Steve is is listen. We're going to stone, boombox and so Jimmy. What would I would ask? there. There's been some in the last. Year and a half there's been two situations that a fight has happened, and then the right after the fighter was in a ring with opportunity to make A. In a Kinda like gun star stuttering and that was manny. Well, he got an ear to. The pulse of him Mikey I'm earl and Mikey. Manny stood there, liking know what the Hill Earl was saying. BURCHILL got into ring out to him fight. He acted like he didn't even know. Held hand was fight. You just watch. And that's what be an spy. Burchill do not want that fight so. He Beats Valdez. Korbi's both of core. Look at them as good fighters, but he'd beat dues like that up in a gym all the time. When you are great box that you, you look forward to find a no, no disrespect to Mexico against, but you look forward to. An aggressive Mexican style fighter because he's got though punches that you can lean comic even if it's. A variety you know you gotta slip and move and I. Some core is great at and I don't think either. One of those are elite level like Battelle got elite motor, but when I'm watching fight, it's not it's not top notch power. He was in everything with Jamila. He looked like a little midget standing beside Djamil so I say she court beat them easily. Our favorite to beat vowed as a decent fighter always get hurt her hand her jaws every time he fight. He's art, so Sikora beat him easy. That's why I ran from one twenty six, because didn't WanNa Pfizer court so good interview mayweather. He always has radius like funny do. You say fa trash but Dow Riley. GonNa be a Youtube Champ. I catch later y'all. Funny. That was the reason Oscar said what he say he like Yo you know. He's taken up an issue with boxing fans who thinks that he vacated his title do a Voice of Course Iverson, and that that's kind of why said to stay me. He's like Brahma. Varnish Corwin, when Birchall is the more seasoned respected chant, but it's like it's like. Jeff Mayweather said. That's a play on words because the streets want you to face a core, we go on in Philly what A. GotTa hit you with an old quote. Man Camale does sound trump you good as long as we don't. Ask The question we thought was more dominant nephew that Friday. I'm thinking. What's the definition dominant because? I would say the onset. Everybody out he is the one man, and that's a mandate to. This this this my criteria and I've been asking you necessarily be calling. Why should criteria for? A new fight, good this. My three thing my box checkoff. Amateur. Street and competition you face, and what's your peers and coaches? Set out you an amateur? You know what I'm saying. That's why guys me don't know. Sometimes never heard they may. Surprised and be dangerous to sometimes to eat. or a fight is because we don't know. and. As far as we devon. Jamal. Nobody can blame them. They wanted to fight a chance and for whatever reason. He came franchise whatever that is I know. We argue that back on off, but they didn't want to fight them to do. So they prove themselves to meet. You should do know Chris. If you hire so reward, demis, that you hey grow, because if you what I would have just not too little money, and then wait for big money fight, but I know you dangerous communicable pay a lot of month. Super Chat from Ken. Soun-, that says what called when a vacant title it of Vacant Bell then move up because weight, and he's using quotation marks. His team are protecting him. He'll move up for vacant belts till he runs out of room. Dan already they my man. Yeah, man, I don't know. Let's see sucked issue for. This. Whole word say it's funny. Even go ahead. Vacant would like quotes like making it scene like issue. 'cause for vowed. Dad's moved up. Just like just like it's not about at this. Disaccord moved up. Come on, guys come on. Yes CALICO. He did when they can overseas Joa Gonzales because Valdez moved up. But. That's everybody except for Info Joe. What are you know? Chain. Portion of, do we? Vile? Joe Joe's demand right now. This is not regular Info Joe, this bear. That's right. That's right. Tell them the truth, Alex, true y'all. y'All if the guy you want to be within the Bush. This guy knows how he's hit catch. A city do man put me any environment I'm on death, right? A great interviews this morning. Man, great interview with Jeff. And what's the Guy Lenny Williams We'll job man Wilson my bad my bad? Forest Fda Java Man. I would say throw him in there with Chris Areola man, and I think that's a good. Let Him Let. We'll see where you have more experienced Guy Chris. AREOLA are Brian Jennings. Tom McCain his name right. Take Him. Tack Them Yeah Yeah. I think those would be good advice for him and. Sukur. He will be Chicago. We'll be his stuff. You Spike no doubt hands down. Joost shut out to my man King born New York. City spine is. Champ. Stay safe driving. You'll miss i. pay the fifteen dollars Tier, but I can't open up. 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I'M GONNA. Let him break. The News is undefeated America heavyweight, so somebody's got to go, and then Thursday. I just scheduled George Gobble de you. WHO's the cousin of heavier and heavier couple thi? You but Georgia's the one I believe or Jorges should I say is the one that that I believe the cut for fury and works to bubble for top rank. Friday. Wing I know by, but we we. We are going to get some micheals. People been hitting me up and back I'm still weighing on Oboe Violin. Matter of fact, that's crazy. Why not see Travis Kauffman? Where's that a GIG Kaufman? Tuesday I got put that in so so he's at ten thirty, which is strange. I thought I did this already man. Ten. Metro. I'm put it on the wrong day. Travis Kauffman Interview Lots! Twenty, eighth! That's what. I did I did the wrong date is not twenty eighth four. This Tuesday. What was was today's the twentieth. Is The twentieth. Tomorrow is the Tomorrow he's on tomorrow I fly. You know. Team right. Twenty first twenty first. Malls, Tuesday. He's on at ten thirty. Right, the twenty first. That with with Travis. Double check this. But that should be good. Looks like we go with lovejoy. Day At ten at Wednesday to Wednesday Wednesday at ten thirty I said that he's on Jessica. And Travis Who else is up French cruisers at me? Fan House she done later next week. Next, week is perfect because I'm pretty filled now she's in. She's working. That's why I wanted to schedule A. Test. What's next? What's next? She data. Whatever yeah, you know what there hasn't even been much more news about the Jimenez thing? That's it right once. Suspension over with Jimenez. MARIUCCI's not. Mario Skis in the water. I just. I. Just gotTa Sideways Conspiracy Tax. On the last show. There was like about the James Prince Efi. Here this for me but I. Just WanNa see that Allen. Prints have known each other for minute. The chief of Al Hayman Security, big, wes and Jay Prince used to both work in Dick jefferies office, big West used to manage advised and fighters, but he passed away now is given prince. So who said that to you? It, you don't want to say it on air some of his old role. Let me tell you first of all on look. I should have listened to me I said this two weeks ago when this broke or a week ago, y'all out. It was October when I heard that they were signing together or November. Maybe but it was a while back that I heard that they were signing and I thought it was already going to be done when it didn't happen. I thought Oh you know the person that told me. Was You know they were full of it like I? Get that all the time I've heard many rumors. That weren't true at all. so I seen it on the writing on the wall. I was happy, but whoever told you that I'm pretty sure the same ones that told me. well that is it ladies and gents. Done, but we're back on patriotic tonight for untitled. 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Hopefully we hit that you know sh and make it big. Let's see how many away we are from one hundred fifteen, so we can finally goes twenty earlier. I was like what we're actually at nine away from that, Hartman. Checking we're, we're six thumbs up so way from one hundred due to solid champions. Entertain you at all shows at least those six thumbs up, so I so I go make breakfast that I've been long overdue for hours already assumed. Three different profiles and I make three different profiles. We could probably get him up to one hundred and I. Feel good about missing breakfasts and everything else it'd be three. No just kidding. We love you. Do for a living. We love it and We appreciate the support for sure that I say Chris Lovejoy was Wednesday. Raise Wednesday. Yeah Wednesday and crawl Kaufman is Tuesday. You mentioned so many days you had me doing like Algebra in my head. Imagine. My head I got schedule. I got schedule them. Then go make post like I'm doing right now. For our Patriots members actually making the Post right now for Travis Kauffman so next, travis a question try not to wait last minute. Guys getting into the last minute I get it. Everyone's busy, but Yemen, the sooner the better you know, let us know where you're from, so we can let the fighter. No, because do me does a poor job of saying you know George. Foster new UK and etc, etc, but yeah, we like to let the fight or no or the guests know that these questions are coming from all over the place. Remember only one question per patriot, not these eight part questions. Oh, what do you think fear is the best heavyweight? And would he be Joshua and would he do this and chill chill chizzy like Komo one. We had one hundred thumbs up, and then, and then we're to ninety nine, and then in the winter two hundred, and so there's a lot of people that got love for us out there regardless of the thumbs down that begin at the show for no reason I think those are just the botts. Box is coming, but I planned for you box and troy on these coins. Though we. Truly. In a heck of a pickle now we outmanned catches tonight seven campus.

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I just to ruin the other captains probably going to be Greek freak looking at at the voting, but the games in Charlotte and Kemba Walker is obviously more deserving for this season than Dwayne Wade. And looks like doing Wade's going to rightfully though. Be named starter. The fans giving them one last if Kemba Walker were to like make some crazy comeback and take over as the starter. Do you think that the players coaches would give him one last like Karaz as a reserve or news only shot to get there? I think he's only shot is to be a starter. He's got a pretty big leap. Yeah. Yeah. He should be the starter. You see well since starting in the Western Conference or some interesting results, Luca Danni, which would be an all star Derrick rose would be back court start on their Minnesota just turning out to that amazing moment that fifty plus point game an incredible comeback stories having pretty good season in probably so it's cool. That's another cool story. I'm all for these cold stories twain, weight and Derrick rose, it's an exhibition. Let's nice moment. I want to bring in Brennan Tobin, our friend, hashtag third hour. Congratulations. We're very happy for you. That's one less hour of content. We have to produce him. We're going mad over here. So congratulations to you beast and LeRoy well-deserved. Sir. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. There is a big combat sports weekend. Coming our way this weekend. We have many patio and Adrian Boehner I didn't even know this fight was even possible. I thought they were different weight classes, I just this is the ignorant casual fight fan in me. I didn't know that this was in the Roma possibility or that this was coming until this week. And that seems like just a celebrity fight doesn't it? Yeah. This is kind of just an many major sound of the new promoter. Al Hayman who has agent Brunner unders promotion, and so yeah, they both were they both were way better when they wore lighter. But this is what they don't wanna cut that way anymore. They're both older men's way older. And the hope I think is if Manny wins this fight it will set up for him another matchup with Lloyd Mayweather. So he's kind of doing Mayweather's promoter here a solid now Heyman. And and hopes that he can get another crack at Floyd. Does. He win. Kenny win many. Yeah. I think many will probably win fairly easily against Adrian Bronner because of the styles like many throws to many punches and Adrian ever since he moved up to welterweight. He just doesn't throw enough. And so he doesn't win on scorecards. He can't really knock you out of this size. So it's this is pretty made for many to get a win. He just signed a new contract without Haymond. So I don't think they want him to lose his first fight. But with Adrian, you know, he's so popular because of social media has outrageous tastes, he's like. He's kind of the first boxing star that was built through like worldstar and social media and all that he gets huge huge ratings people always tune into watch him fight. So there's gonna be a lot of eyeballs on this fight. But but manny's better skill was we're talking Brennan Tobin our good friend producer of the morning show and host of middays here on seven ninety the ticket. He is a fight game expert combat sport expert, so this is the first time many patios fought in Vegas in forever. Right. Yeah. He's huge tax issues. So because of that has been fighting overseas and China and things like that. But I guess that's all settled I think that was part of the agreement with Al Hammas like, hey, can we make some of this tax stuff go away? And and and have me fight over in America, which is much more lucrative. And apparently they did. So he's he's over here. And you know, the one thing that man, he's made a lot of money. But it was crazy. Just watching all access the Showtime twenty four seven that they put on before the fights and on Saturdays before he. Goes to jog he has like a DisneyWorld line outside of his house of people from the Philippines, and he's just giving them cash. Just just giving them cash. And so he's he's basically just funding a country out there. It's pretty wild. There's no way that he's going to be able to keep onto this money because he just he takes care of too many people. So the end game is to get even more money. Take care more people and give us a rematch to a fight that initially happened several years too late the end game here is yet another pack yell Mayweather. Yeah. That's definitely it's definitely gonna happen like because they're gonna they're gonna talk it into because when they when we came up with that fight which was a wild disappointment. Everybody was pissed because they had to pay a hundred dollars. And you got that was. Oh, yeah. Many had a shoulder injury. The entire time that he didn't disclose. And people were like what that's not fair. We bought a busted Manny Pacquiao fight. So, you know, people ended up putting a class action lawsuit together against these guys. Don't think anything really came of that. But people really mad, but they're going to go with that angle in the lead up is. This time any is at full strength. It's five years later, and he's forty years old. But this time that shoulder is fine. I have no interest in seeing that. I honestly sorta got much rather see McGregor Mayweather too. You're not with me on that. Chris was much more fun fight. I had way more fun watching that fight them. Pack Yale Mayweather. I mean, I probably would rather watch that. But I'm not like a fighting kind of like, I feel like Tobin wants no part of MAC of of Mayweather McGregor to I I wanted May- whether McGregor so bad. It was so much fun. The fight week the lead up. I just don't know how they could do it again I'd like to see McGregor box. Again. There's there's there's some talk around him fighting paulie model nausea is a former world champion does color analysis on Showtime's broadcast, and they've kind of had a personal beef because of stuff that went on in the may whether campy sparred with McGregor. So I would say if he's gonna box again, he's probably on a fight somebody like that. I can't imagine him doing doing the Floyd fight again. Jisr people flood ended up saying, oh, I carried him all that way. So I I don't think that's going to happen. Again, we work for ESPN. And by corporate mandate, we have to mention the UFC debut coming your way on ESPN. Plus, which is such a steel. I mean, really, I mean, an incredible bargain to watch all the UFC and get that entire library and have cards like this. It's so exciting. Greg hardy is making his view, which leaves me feeling very conflicted. So what can we expect from this card? Obviously there's champion versus champion main event. Dana obviously trying to make a strong impression. So what what can we expect from this card, and then if you can go into what can we expect from this relationship with the UFC and ESPN, and what that means for the future of the sport? Yeah. There's been a lot of a lot of you of secons. They're going to victory lap today because they're tied with the SPN it feels like this mainstream acceptance because obviously it is you know, the biggest is the biggest sports network in the world. So there's been a lot of that. The championship fight is is is a really good matchup. T J dillashaw the one hundred thirty five pound champion. He wants to go win another bell. That's the big thing. And you have see these days is to win belts in multiple weight classes. So he is shrinking himself down to one hundred and twenty five pounds to five hundred pseudo who beat mighty mouse Johnson for the championship. It's very good matchup. One's a wrestler. One's a dynamic striker very very even magic, but lean dillashaw, but we don't really know how that we gonna affect them. But should be really entertaining fight as far as the Greg hardy thing, it is a conflicting thing because you know, he everybody knows him for one thing. And and it's it's that it's it's how his NFL career unravel with his domestic violence with his domestic violence convictions. And that stuff getting dropped and all that stuff and basically played his way out of the league with all this stuff around him. And the thing that made it even worse was on the same card. You have page van Zandt versus a woman named Rachel ostrich. And she was she in the lead. To her five with page van Zandt was attacked by her husband had an orbital bone. Broken was in the hospital was taken off the card. So in the meanwhile, while she was off the car that aside let's Greg hardy on the ESPN card as well. And so nobody thinks that ostrich and page Avanzi are going to fight then doctors decide to clear her and she does wanna fight on the same card. So now, you have a domestic violence survivor on the same card as a notorious domestic violence of user. So that's got some odd stuff around it because Dana white is, you know, a few years removed from saying you there's no coming back from hitting a woman, and yet he's been on his TV show on the fight pass smiling from ear because Greg hardy, and he's got he's got this guy in the co main event on this debut card, which you know, he's he's he's, you know, celebrating I'm on ESPN. Now, we're finally here. And to celebrate have a former football player with all this stuff in the background. And it's the Komeda then on you have see it's kind of weird. It's like it's not it's not some dumb before they've had CNN punk. They've had in Brockton. Listener Ray Mercer on the often on before. But you know, for them to have this idea of oh, we've been accepted by the mainstream now, but we're also going to give you a little bit of freak show. It's it's it's very conflicting there, but I'm super excited to have them aboard because they have these pay per view cards, obviously. But these fight nights that they put together for sensually free, or at least a vast discount from what you would pay on pay per view, those cards or often better. I don't really understand the business model, but as someone that works for years PM thrilled about it. We need. I'm sorry. Go ahead Tobin. No, I'm just saying like that. They they do a really I think because you guys, you know, nobody nobody promotes sports better than ESPN. I do think that's going to be very good for the fighters and people will learn more about the fighters. I just think that I think that will bring it along a lot further than the relationship with FOX did I we gotta we've done enough of this fighting stuff. Yeah. It was just a big ESPN plus commercial. I don't think that's the way they'd want to promote of Greg hardy personally. But until we have token here, I got a real quick just get to what's up with Dwayne Wade boulevard is this happening. I'm trying man. The there's a big thing with this. There's a guy in the state who's like holding it up with some law. I think we talked about this before the with the Jose can say go thing you guys wanted. You know, we had an exchange. You guys are going to promote the way boulevard, and and I was gonna promote Jose Canseco streak coming back. It turns out it's Jose can Seko's fault that Dwayne doesn't have a street yet because because of Jose can say getting his street taken away. They don't want to give people who are living roads anymore. That's that's what I've been told state. State roads, the guy who is in charge of the now is from down here and knew what happened with the whole Jose can Saco thing. So now, he is taken to stay policy on a wanna give people who are living state roads. What if doing away becomes a mass murderer, and then we're stuck you Dwayne Wade boulevard. So there's a bunch of arguing over that. Like, there's big support from the city and the county to make it happen. But it's just trying to get this. This this students have people in the state to budge good thing is we do have some people down here. Repin the state that do want to tap enough. So they're trying to get into his ear, but it's just kind of held up a politics or now, but their hope is that it get done before the season's over. But I don't like that excuse there's plenty precedents still there's plenty of living people still getting roads. And he can I agree and he can tell his Rubio avenue that guy's a living Spanish language radio legend down here. He's still alive. He's still doing his damn thing. Dan, Marino's got one doesn't probably private under eats on the property owned by the why don't they just name that street like behind the arena between the water and the arena known. Wait alley. Unsettle? No, don't settle. That's not a that's that's like a drive with. That's not a road driveway. No, man. Dwayne we parking lot. How about that underneath the arena twain Wade parking lot. Can we just do this on an odd say what are the odds? Dwayne Wade's going to do something really embarrassing and his old age. I mean, what's the big deal? If it does happen. It's going to be updated on Google. It's not going to be a big deal. And it's like it's like three screws on a sign. It's it's not really that much of a big switch. I don't know what this guy. So scared of Tobin. I have a new cause to see if you want to get in on this. And I feel that you hate me. But I have this new caused I want you in on can we name the bench? You Don is has lem bench just moving forward like forever all through attorney. It's just you Don his bench. His confirmation. Good. Like the bench in the arena. Yeah. Yeah. That the players sit on no man because he's gonna get like the statue. We should get all you're gonna you know, I get that too. But I wanted to the bench after him because it won't be enough to you think you've done has it. We're going to be one to be named after the bench. Now the bench you'll be named after him. We're not gonna call you, Don his bench, mental horrible honor. And I'm Jay, congratulations. Here. The bench is named after you. Remember what you sat the last five years of your career? I mean, we get into the point where there there's a generation of heat fan said don't know you Don Heslin was actually pretty good player. And they just know you Don has lem a guy that's at the end of the bench and never plays were naming a street. Dwayne Wade drove on after him. What's the difference? Boulevard man to boulevard. It's an app fancier. There's a big difference. Purple shirt guy shows up to the all star game because we need one last weight moment with purple shirt Gheit awesome at the top five Dwayne Wade moment. So if the all star game is in Charlotte. Dwayne Wade starting we need purple shirt guy to make his comeback because purple shirt guy. He wore that loss. He went into retirement. There's no more purple shirt guy. He said he was done because he felt like he was the blame for that. Law's bring it back one last time that's happened in the memory. That's a top five Wade moment. Yeah. Man. Oh underlying. I mean, come on in here for line five. Oh, definitely not dude. He was bombed from outside talking smack five or threes that game right? First round of the playoffs, and we're facing elimination. That was an elimination game on the road. Mike. That was a gimme at five threes. Right. Yeah. And he hadn't hit a three since December that year. I'm sorry. That was a top five moment right there. That was the I was little he fans everywhere. We're losing their minds. I think it's absolute Tobin is that a top-five Dwayne Wade moment. I don't know if I a top five, but we're making these vignettes doing, it's definitely. Like in the top ten. Thank you. But what what what what? Got his floater as a rookie. You got. This is my house where he's on top of the thing shot. You got you got shot against Detroit. You got the flip alleyoop till LeBron. And that's just not top of my head for you guys. The step stepping around Gary Neal game four to even the series was tremendous. I would I would put I would put purple shirt guy. Getting lebron. We're not saying it's more important it yesterday right into the play described as more important than terms of more memorable purple shirt guy, man way, more than I forgot about it until might just run. Oh, that was cool and important about it was all those other twain weight and moments that you mentioned those were when he was in the prime of his career playing next to LeBron. This is when everybody wrote him off everyone thought he was a shell of who he was and Dwayne Wade put an entire franchise on his back again when no one thought he could do it and gave us one last moment seemingly one last moment because that was his last really great playoff series for the Miami Heat. If you're gonna go moments like like moments like that. Then you gotta go like him murdering Andersen version. That's a good one. Those are just stick out in your mind. If we're doing this by YouTube, it's probably a sex moment than purple shirt guy. But in terms of what it Brandon what emotionally what drew out of me? And just yet the way that's why he's a go that was was epic and purple shirt guy needs to be there for the all star game. Brennan tobin. You can listen to him with peace, and LeRoy hoard, what time is that show? One to four one four you gotta third hour that happen. All right. Renton. Thank you so much for joining us. Next segment. I think we're going to explore mean technology truth brought to you by Geico. Truth. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to your supervisor, what's rats Janet's? Fangs did she lose a that? With a weed whacker? Oh and Sint, wait. No, no, no, no, no truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. Janet, I think my phone was hacked or something. Gogo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more donlevatar on me. Tweet is that Gordon? Five point going into the league. Stugatz of me. We did that Gore's which is a tough five point guard in the league. This is our show with stugotz on the ticket. Hello. And welcome to our first. In our one hundred nine episode series. Where we explore I mean half. As always I'm your host, g Lewis Gail, and I'm joined by my Sosi. It's m Ryan. Beer, are Anthony Bellamy and c w Cody C Wilford code. When you also Bennett. Point of this journey today is traverse the rugged terrain. It is amino acid. Amine. Are you ready to go on this journey with us said Ivy whispering too? Should do ever. You feel is right. Do you think you should be whispering? What do you feel his as? I'd like to speak with interesting chewing. Good. A main. Who are you? Interesting question. Data I suppose. One has to start with the definition of the word who. The ancient Mayans didn't have a word for who. They just walked around and say you. That's I don't think that's accurate. What is a mean? I'll has it. That's a good question. You know? The agent aspects didn't have. A word for what they say is. Grandma is holding onto the bed. It was working the first this is not going way or either meal how you build down to the crux of it. You know? Spectre back to the aspects. 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I mean, if you a fish, what fish would you be? Parana may call. You mean, we didn't get to know. You may not what you middle name. I don't have one. So how do we do this ale house nothing? I'll have nothing like, you know, has the agent Babylonians did not have I nothing if you were fish fish. Would you be Veronica you would just checking the CNN different answers consistencies? So what is your ideal outdoor temperature? Eighty four degrees. Normally people go in the seventies. But what's your ideal indoor temperature? Seventy four degrees. It's a truly better. If it's a dry, heat tend to variance depends on how we're talking at some point. It doesn't matter. What point is that? I would say somewhere in the one oh seven one eight. Harry, warm, my favorite degrees. Ninety eight degrees on the band Nicklaus question. Thanks, a lot nickel question nothing ocean or leak ocean. Psalter fresh salt. About you doper? Nope. Nope. Whole milk or two percent. Neither up got milk. Don't anymore. Macos? Before interest fart didn't always have happily happened as got older when did that start the farting you have to milk about three or four years ago? And that concerns you. Yeah. I missed cereal. Syria without milk. What's a breakfast of John's? No, I can't what's practice champion weeds. Interest. He feel like you're blaming the milk when it could just be you. I thought so for a long time try to fight through it. But then I realized one day look, you gotta give it up give up the ghost. Are you concerned that society has put you in box where you feel like union Mead milk in your cereal? No, I quite enjoy. It. Have you tried other things in your Syria, tried almond milk? Didn't like what are you drink with your milk and cereal water? I wouldn't put watering your cereal because it's a completely different. Have you tried it? Your cereal water if you could have you. I don't believe in college. When you don't have. Confrontation. I apologize for that. Just believe all these are like this careful if you could if you could cut any produce into your Syria with water. Which would that be strawberries? With Detroit's choice. Chocolate cherry, airing. Favorite flavor milk? Strawberry. Going to go talk to the no I d joyous. Did you know that strawberries closely related to bananas? I know that they're always together when it comes to yogurt strawberry banana seems to be a very winning common. Cousins other cousins, do they share a mother or father cousins don't work like that. That's true. While their parents do is early country. Yeah. Arts countries, do Senator. I would like to apologize part of the country. Trying to figure out strawberries parents are related bananas. Parents if it's the mother father. Ternal? Yeah. Nothing. We'll move on. Nothing has in do you. Let your fingers do the walking. No. Good. That'd be impractical. Describe your perfect meal. The right temperature not too hot were burns inside of my mouth. But also hasn't gotten coke. Just the right warmth. Describe your perfect gluten free meal. The glass of water. Do you agree that when it rains it pours? Do agree. In every instance. In the. Metaphorical sense. Yes. In the literal sense now, sometimes destroys, okay? Truly believe that New York never sleeps. Yes. Never never no naps. Who think it's the city that never sleeps this Lawrence, O, months Vegas. Yes. There's like a two hour window. Biggest were sleepiq acids seekers. What city sleeps the most? Depends on how you define city. Wow. How do you define funding? By the ancient. Malade this again. Lays over this entire thing. Have you seen the new Cardi B music video? I have not should check it out. You should check it out at degree. Did you like it like that? You will. I enjoyed it was. If you had a cat will would you name it? Get out of my house. I'm allergic bit wordy once been wearing with it's ineffective names true. Yeah. Could you take licking and keep on ticking? I prefer it. All right. Take liking what year were you the happiest wait don't think about. Don't rush take all the time you need Sarah Satit, check out this video grace too much time. I mean, Jessica dire. Like, I would say two thousand she's not now chichi and all of friends on a boat and just like half of two thousand nine. Bought second half of two thousand nine in the first half of two thousand basically July two thousand nine June two thousand spots as Vanik heritage situations half, she has an outfit made of red bandannas breathtaking. But I think it might be related to king Stotts offering what flavor ice cream, are you? Cookies and cream. Try scream topping best describes your current state. Cheesecake bites what ice cream topping would you like to become? I would say. Blueberries it's almost as if she's a leader of a torquing Colt and everyone ASA follower instruction vol. Get stronger than the last let nice cream flavor. Aren't you? Pistachio? I cannot. Ciro alexa. Carney goings, RDA Barney. If you could change one thing about the world, what would it be? Mike contract. Do you prefer crush lease or cute? Depends on the beverage. Buy some beverages. Go better with nice queue by some. A question which beverages? Slushies go peddle question. Well, slushy slushy is crush dice. Plus, she doesn't have any. What slush she is going to have slushing liquid? No, I understand what is cube as discussing what he's a crushed ice where ice cube said question ice cube rights t. I scoop really it's really talented body painter. You should really see this not at work. And that's the. City is that what they'll be stands for? That's not safe for not suitable. Nick. Lineup. This is not safe. The saints. Safer. Suitable earned a city girl before this video. Easy. I don't watch the video you'll know member forget. All right. I think we learned absolately nothing today Amine. You seemed very uncooperative if I'm being completely Frank. I enjoyed the journey. Learn something city, but ancient Israelites again Jesus. Thank you so much for wasting everyone's time on city girls. Donlevatar would you mind if the new owners of the Marlins knocked down that statue and centerfield eyesore, but it's gotten to the point that it's you know, our eyesore. It's something that we all laugh at together. Right. So bad that it's become good. You wouldn't go to New York and take away the apple then come on still God's would you guys? Look at a lot of other things and describe it that way, it's something that I mock. But it's something that is in the middle of my city. So therefore, I'm proud of it and don't want it removed pit bull. Okay. You went. This is Dr show with stugotz on the ticket the telephone number. If you wanna talk to David Sampson, seven eight six four five six four eight three seven baseball questions movie questioned entertainment questions. Etiquette questions have added with David Samson at seven eight six four five six four three seven. I mean, I'll has it's going to be filling in for Stu dots today playing the role of getting sent to the penalty box. Whenever it is that he does something that is show killing David Samson with us now again telephone number seven eight six four five six four eight three seven. He's the former Marlins team president. What what is the movie we're talking about this week? Hey, it's a great time ear it's Oscar time, I'm reviewing bohemian rhapsody, which is obviously what everyone knows movie about Queen, Freddie. Mercury. Played by Rani. Molla Kuh is going to win the best actor it's between him and Christian bale and vice which we talked about last week. It's an unbelievable performance better than Val Kilmer as Jim Morrison and the doors. That's how good he was being Freddie, Mercury. The movie itself is absolutely imploding with three exceptions. Is it too early to do? Spoiler alert as everyone else to do. Spoiler alert. Yeah. You can't you can't be telling people yet about human rabbit in terms of things that are going to spoil the stores spoiler. Could there be it's a bio pic and thirty plus years ago? I agree with that. The fact is he dies at the end. Deigned it right here for all listeners. Freddie. Mercury dies. So you'd like them moving. I had no idea you'd like them movie David which is a little surprising. It's actually the worst reviewed movie to ever win the Golden Globe for best picture drama, and I'm a huge Queen fan. And I also like Remmy Malik, and I was disappointed by the movie thoroughly I thought they took such creative license at then think it was honest, but the Live Aid scene at the end that was worth the price of admission. Well, those are the things that was going to talk about I was very disappointed with the four five things that they did that they don't need to do. And it made me think about all the movies that are based on true stories. Why is it for dramatic purposes? You have to add certain things when the story itself is so dramatic. This is the number one example where they didn't have to do it. And they did. And that's why it's been reviewed so badly, but you have to see it not just for the Live Aid seen, but. All the musical scene. You end up. I was here in the last twenty minutes of the entire movie thinking about the impact Queen had. And what a group they weren't. How sad it is. But he died so young it is kind of awkward at award season two because Bryan singer was essentially kicked off the project because of how he was treating people onset. So it's now winning all these awards yet Bryan singer is not there yet got full credit for the first thing that I did after watching this movie, by the way, I woke up the next morning, and I saw the actual Live Aid performance. You should always get to shot. Shot. It's amazing. How will they did that down to the, you know, the the soda on the piano, everything every little thing? Remmy Malik deserves the award just based on how well he imitated him. I had a chance to talk about this movie with someone who is who is not alive during the time of live eight because I wanted to understand what their view of Live Aid was and the worst part is there would some recognition of the words Live Aid or band-aid. But no idea that it was that type of concert. No idea that it was simultaneously in Philadelphia. And London that Phil Collins did both on the same day. No idea of any of it. Bob geldof. I might as well have been talking as though I three is. It was terrible. I'm curious though. Because the reviews that I've read one of the main criticisms is that the story doesn't seem authentic that for as as much as they got the details. Right. And I haven't seen it. But what's dissuaded me from seeing as the number of people? Think that's not how it happened. That's not real. Well, the majority is real and you're seeing it for performance sometimes you see movies because the performance by the actress so good that you have to see it. And this is an example, he became, Freddie. Mercury. You go back and not just look at Live Aid. But look at concert footage of Queen look at some of their videos, and he practice Rani Malik did for months to become Freddie, mercury's got the draw line. He put in the fake to do it. That itself is worth your time. With all the crap that you watched Dan, this is two hours. You'll be brought back to the musical times of your childhood. And it will make you smile. I don't remember who it was yesterday who was talking about Will Smith being the best actor of our generation was you mean was I was I said it, but it was Stanley down to the Detroit Pistons with I express well, but Will Smith, and I know you guys can laugh at that. But in terms of recreating personality. Well, what he did with Ali to me felt like the height of acting that he reached a place where? I was like man I can suspend disbelief and here Ali and here the there was that's another great example of the shot for shot recreation. If you watch the fight with Sonny liston, the first fight in the movie, and that's the fight that Mohammed Ali becomes heavyweight champion the world. It is exact same oceans exact same faints the same blows same pacing. It is pretty incredible. Inner win anything for that. Didn't all it was nominated win. What did you want anything? I thought he was great. But I think that's that's another example. That's the performance you have to watch the movie was fine. But, but that's that's the performance same with the doors, which which we talked about. But there's a lot of actors were a lot better than than Will Smith. He's he's good. But I to call the actor of generation, I think that's a little mutt. No. Of course, it is. But what I'm saying? Is that in that one roll man go and give me all the time in in terms of what it is that we're talking about here with Bahamian rhapsody and Mohammed Ali where somebody was so realistic in a role that you were able to suspend the disbelief and believed that they were this pioneering figure that you. Remember, I got one for you. Jim Carey man on the moon plane. Andy Kaufman, excellent. How about Malcolm X, how about Denzel and Malcolm X? I didn't suspend belief. That was always Denzel Benz L is always Denzel. That's one of the things. He it's hard to go past him diso one for training day that year alley the same year that Will Smith was nominated. However, we should correct Will Smith did win an award for Ali. He won the B T award, man. I I apologize. Could anybody sit here and say that Denzo in training day? And I love training date was better than Will Smith. And I'll Li like that's not the degree of difficulty on that kind of acting come on. Like, I'm strong, Denzel wasn't good. I'm saying you're trying to recreate a legendary pioneering figure and you did it. So well that most people were awed by that's not what Denzel didn't training. And I think it's just a I think that's probably the rule Benz L is going to be remembered most for and that's a that's a really difficult year for Wilson to have his role that he's going to be remembered most for to go up against dens out on the poll place at lebatardshow outta virtuosity. I'm gonna I'm gonna remember the titans. I wish I'd given you the room to tell gel Washington will not be remembered for training day and Will Smith will not be remembered for late. We'll Smith is way more of an action star. He is he's made more money. More people seeing that more people have seen Will Smith and bad boys and in focus than they did in Ali. Focus all man, man. That's anything with Margot. Robbie is something that people are watching. Sorry. A great movie. Oh, come on. It is. I'm on David focus is a great movie. Right. Focus was a great moving. No, have you seen focus. You know, how the whole Super Bowl because of focus. I'm like really concerned every time I go to an ATM because I'm afraid that someone's going to combine like a couple minutes later and just pop off the thing, and they're gonna take my code the of the guy. Did it seems so simple to do that as your ally? David the better one for focuses you'd worry about which is the power of persuasion, when you're asked to choose the number to choose the colored think about something, and you there you may have been set up the entire week before to think about a specific thing that was the freaky scene of that movie. Billy the idea that you would put focus in the same category of Wilson's playing Ali. I put it above that. It's one of the most offensive things I've ever heard. I've never seen Ali. Well that explains your day. All right. All right congratulate that interested you gotta look past your love of Lee. And you've got to talk about the actor who played it. I leave course is bigger figure more important figure that a made up movie about a con art. No, I'm talking about degree of difficulty. You're trying to capture night kind of no one disputes that you captured him no one. Well, he's right about the dairies are easily able to imitate they just are you take enough time. Rami Malecki did great. But he put in the time if what about Christian bale with every single accent. He uses never heard him talk. He's one of the seminal thespians of our time. This other guy was with the fresh prince. He is a fresh friend is that he was sorry with jazzy, Jeff my bad. But it's a fine. He's Jeff would have also been comedic -ly funnier is a phrase, but he's absolutely right about zone. Not being remembered for train. He's going to be remembered from alpha mex-, Philadelphia what I would guess Philadelphia to city maybe jazzy, Jeff the cornermen in the movie because that would be dope, Jamie Foxx list. Jamie FOX is going to actually pretty dope man on fire. And don't forget the equalizer that's on the sequel. Cheney is. Yeah. That's asking for that. Sequel is we have a pretty now remembered for Katie Holmes, and that's about it. Oh, we gotta do this more often with David because it's fairly evergreen concept where we pitch an actor. And you say what role was that person known for in your mind? I would have liked us Denzel that question. We'll ask him next time. He comes on David. We'll talk to you next week. Thank you, sir. All right. Take care. Bye. I wonder what Harold shirts pinions every week. He's got he's got questionable move. Just wait till he leaves to say their specialty in your thank him. I mean is so good at that. You think David who's on hold listening to him back up? I'm David did. You hear go ahead of me taking up with David always gone now. It's time. Now you next time. Oh my God. I mean, your your level of cowardice I have yet to see its limits. Like, you gotta give them a piece of my mind, by the way, you were giving Mageza PC your mind yesterday. But it was only happening inside your mind.

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The A-Side Live Chat | UFC 238, Lobov vs. Malignaggi, UFC Rochester aftermath, Sage Northcutt, 2019 Hall of Fame class, more

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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The A-Side Live Chat | UFC 238, Lobov vs. Malignaggi, UFC Rochester aftermath, Sage Northcutt, 2019 Hall of Fame class, more

"You're listening to the media, log cast network. Hello. Hello, welcome back friends. It is so good to see you all it is, may twenty second two thousand nineteen. And this, this is the a side live trap. I guess I have all of you out there having a lovely start to your week. We appreciate you so much for joining us today, and this is a bit of a weird one. I said that a couple of weeks ago, I'm going to have to start show. Again, if you have not heard, this is going to be my last episode of the sidelines chat podcast, I am leaving them may fighting after this week. I cannot really talk more about what's going on. But I felt there was no better man to join me on this Lascaux than my fellow Arizonan us, let me bring in Michael is for today. Joining me on today's program. He is my brother's an arm in the desert, these sharpest comic book mind in all of the MA space is a Celtics fan, but we'll forgive that just for today. Thank you so much for joy. In the program, Mr Jose Young's. What does that posing? Welcome to the side. I enjoyed that intro. Not often introduced as sharp county with minded individual. I like to think myself as that but respect, and it's a like you said a weird one for me. Like. It's a weird one for my first one because I'm gonna miss you. But that's do it. Yeah, I'm sorry for bringing you on for your debut on such a stationary platform. It's all good. My man so we're going to try to get through this. Try not to cry cry. I'm gonna try not to it's gonna be fine. But so we are coming off of another busy may weekend. Thank you so much for joining me, Jose. Let's have some fun today from Raphael does annuals to Michelle present Pereira, there was lots of like about UFC Rochester. Plus, we have low bobbers montage that car crash keeps rolling sage north Kelly gets broken face. Rashad. Evans ends up in the hall of fame. A stack of c two thirty eight is just ahead of us at a whole lot more today. But as we always say, this is your show. 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Let's talk about some anime was talk about some happy stuff. You ready always baby over? Right. So let's do this. And this first question's coming from Jay DeLuca, and he wants to know about bare knuckle fighting championships press conference Krige. Hi, high Heenan Jose. What is your take on the circus of a press conference from Monday night with Malaysia? And Artem Lobov as a die hard MMA fan since the early two thousands. This was the most distasteful. A lot of adjectives here showcase promotion, I witnessed is likely that more brain cells were lost from simply doing the press conference video in comparison to a night out on the town, letting loose drinking few too many with friends Macy, wonder as the YouTube you if see guilty of causing this disaster in some way, PS Shaheen. I'm sorry to hear that. You'll even may fighting I look forward to your future news as your excellent, which do interested to hear your greatest memories on today's chat. I hope that this is not the end of may fighting dot com. It is certainly not the end of fighting dot com. We still have a fantastic team place here. And you guys are gonna continue to kill it. I know that deep within my heart. I know that you guys are gonna continue to kill and I'm excited to watch that. But let's answer this question. Jay DeLuca coming out hard against this low buffers Melanesia press conference. He does not seem to be a fan Jose this happened on Monday. What was your takeaway? Is this too much? No, it's definitely not too much. And it's. But at the same time, I don't I wasn't surprised with what happened. I mean we've seen Paul of Molin Ozzy throughout the whole build up before Mayweather McGregor. And then him and Connor gotten to that, that weird spat on like the welcoming thing that boxing always does when they roll out the red carpet front of the T mobile arena. Big basically got into it there. And then when Artem left and sign with bare knuckle boxing, right away within seconds out. Everyone was tweeting all Polly versus Artem it has to happen. And the con- cards, Polly's been calling out Connor this, and that absolutely did not surprise me. What happened? I don't think it's too far because this is like a legitimate feud like they don't like each other. I mean maybe is very Chris. Some of the stuff polymath model analogy was saying, like he's like, I'm gonna Pete in your mouth and stuff like that is a little. In Shakespearean is the word you're looking for while I don't let using Shakespearean in MMA, if I'm not talking about Tito Ortiz, but paulie Molin is a close second and. Or the reminded that reminded me of the Ken shamrock Tito, Ortiz press conference, when he's like, I'm gonna beat you into the living death at Ortiz, just like openly laughed in his face. It was just like that's going to be just etched in my mind forever. So I don't think it was too much, because at the end of the day, they're not throwing dollars through windows. They're not John McKay, jobs. I mean, I'd like to see how they act after the fight, or whoever wins if it ends the feud, if they go if the camps go at it or whatever, I don't know how bare knuckle boxing security is that especially down there in Florida. Well boxes urity is rumble Johnson. So I think they're doing fine. That's true. Like if he just picks them up like a like an upset father and just carries them away. I'd be down to see that, but I don't think it was too much. It was more comical and people are talking about it. I mean it's like we tweeted out videos clips of it, and they got a ton of re tweets and views and everything. So it's in the site guys. People are talking about it. I don't think it's. It's the Bank heard around the world of Polly montage, just like. Whack-a-mole Ling arts head with a microphone. I don't think that's too much, because at the end of the day, no one got arrested and brought to court for throwing something through a window, so it seems like you're on board. Of course, I've been on board since they announces. I mean that I fight with Artem and Jason. I didn't watch it alive because I was at a Red Sox game. But when I got back, I watched the highlights and then I ended up watching the whole thing, and I was like seeing Casey and Esther foam a fighting like tweeting about it. And they were like this is the greatest thing ever. So while must be also I went back and watched it, and I was like, oh, my God, like if Artem fights and Jason is more of a grappler, anyway. Like if Artem fought legitimate, like boxer in bare knuckle boxing, Ivy super interested because I wanted I would like to see how he does against someone like that. And Paul them on is you stepped up and there's a legitimate feud there. So I'm a hundred percent on board at men, I hate. I would love to argue with you and take some sort of moral high Brown and same above this. But I'm not, Nope. I'm not at all. I'm eating this up. And that's one thing that like says, Jay DeLuca is coming out Hartson in the most distasteful thing that I've ever seen in promotion, etc. It's just like. Were you not around last year? Like two thousand eighteen you can point out several examples just from between two men and you know, which to men I'm talking about a much more distasteful promotion than this. So I think the moralizing some degree, like let's just have fun, right. Like this is how I got into the sport was pride circus fights in just ridiculous. The attributes in all of this has been part of combat sports forever. Maybe the pe- in, in your mouth is taking it to some degree of too far. But it's also funny, right? Like it's just I think it's funny coming from. Someone who Poly's, not the biggest guy, and he has very New Jersey New York voice in. It's just funny hearing that sort of thing directed at a gentleman who is European who's, I dunno the whole every dynamic. Also ally enforce if you watch that whole press conference, I Paul him on analogy like you said, has that thick New Jersey accent? So that just adds to it, and then he's wearing like an old time. It gangster suit would like hat and like, don't point your finger at me while he's pointing his finger at Artem. It's at. And that's what I'm getting hours, just. It seems like Paul is very, very good at upsetting people, and it's you was trying to piss you off. He would be able to succeed at pissing you off is so thoroughly that it would be so frustrating. And it it's funny watching that bounce off of Artem. I will say I it's a guilty pleasure air love it. Let me ask you. Why does this feel like such guilty pleasure because it does like I tweeted out about earlier this week after that presser instead. I'm all in on this and I got a lot of people saying you should be better, Sean. Like why is this feeling guilty pleasure? Well, I don't think it's a guilty plea. I don't I don't like the phrase guilty pleasure, because if you like something you like it just like own it like you shouldn't feel guilty about enjoying a spectacle. And that's what it is. It's a spectacle, it's not like they're fighting for a championship for like the best, bare knuckle boxer in the world. Like they don't like each other. They're gonna talk trash, and they're gonna get in a fistfight it when I say fistfight like a legitimate fistfight like without gloves. They're just gonna throw down in a ring with a little bit of tape on their hands and that's how they're going to settle this blood feud. So I don't I wouldn't feel guilty about it. If you don't like it, just don't watch it. I, maybe the those pictures of Jason and Jason night and Artem Lobov after where their faces are just like all gashed up and a lot of and everything that to me was more jarring than the build up to this fight. I mean I saw that face like Jason's. Lip is split open his eyes swollen and every. One is it would it that to me was much more. I feel weird watching these people do this to their bodies rather than I don't like watching this because of what they're saying to each other. That's that's how I took. That's all I'm taking it. I think that's fair. Right. Because you just said you wanted to see what Artem would look like in bare knuckle fight against an actual boxer to me that feels like it feels like the result of this. Yes. Probably the most guilty pleasure of all because our improbably is going to get really messed up because he's boxing, a boxer. Yup. Yup. But he's saying all the right things man. He's like, maybe he's not it's different set situation. Bare knuckle is very different. The guard in terms of your defensive abilities is completely different in maybe that affects poly to some degree. Also, I will say, I mean, anytime you can just get someone Balkan somebody on the headlight that anything amid on that one hundred won't talk question before move on. And this is maybe the most outrageous, maybe this is sanctimony is in just outrageous in just is, is should not even be a question. But is that the biggest fight of June? Wow. Like, is that a silly question to ask you? It's not a silly question in it's because on having to think about it. It's not a bad question. So that's silly question to me. No. Because I do think there's, like very high level championship caliber fights, that's going to be happening in Chicago in the UFC. You see read is a great card, and there's this giant like, slobber knocker of a heavyweight main event in Minneapolis now that's probably for the number one contender, for the fight between Daniel, Cormet and see pay me. Oh. But so I would say, you're, you're I would say, no, but it's not a bad question. Like, I'm have to think of I sounds like that's a. I'm going to watch it. Like, we'll I is it the most entertaining fight probably. But I don't think it's the best fight. I didn't ask if it's the best fight there. It's step it could be the most entertaining for sure. But in my mind, there's actual high-calibre martial arts. I'm a little more excited for I think I agree with you. I say inky would be with me though. I think I agree with you. It's not out say it's not the biggest but I can tell you that just looking at the metrics, we have seen on videos in Trafford website, and everything, I think it will probably be the most viewed or traffic piece of combats more that comes out of June, which is. Effing ridiculous to say I it's and this is just an extension like we thought we moved on for may where the McGregor when that ended in what August twenty seventeen over and here we are in June twenty nineteen or whatever month. That is made twenty nineteen. We're still talking about it. That's not wrong or we're never going to escape. This is basically the unofficial sequel of the imagine if this was the Coleman event of Mayweather McGregor. I mean at some point do it man steer into the chaos steer into the cast like that. Let's keep going in this next one is another one from Jay DeLuca in as Jay DeLuca likes to do to me is extremely long one. I'm not gonna read all of this. That would take me a good five minutes. So I'm going to just summarize it as best. I can while skimming alley Adelaziz plead ignorant, ignorance, imail interview with Thomas, high Shaheen and Jose. So he's effectively asking about Luke had an interview in studio with Alli noted Emma may manager on Monday and. That Luke asked about Kabaeva ties along with ALI'S ties to Rams on Qadeer off and Ali deflected. What is the actual question here? All right. I'll read the last paragraph because that seems to be the question, although I'm not seeing question seems to be ran number go made half. Censorship, bore against concerts in theater that he deems as fill with some of his supporters sending death threats whoever could be doesn't approve of his teammates in him, mocking him in humiliating, homeless people see on social media his support, various children's mashes in Mantova may, along with his promotional merciless figures on social media. Begs to ask is Emma made media in many journalists aside from Korean does the Don does great work really doing their job in interviews. So what, what where is your where do you watch Luke's interview our Monday? What did you think overall that interview, I guess, in answer, Jade, Lucas question is Emma may media doing enough to pry into these sorts of topics while I love I thoroughly enjoyed the interview I like Luke did what wasn't combative? But he definitely wouldn't let Ali Abdalaziz like skirt around questions in. He would come after him like, well, that's, that's not in your fighters best interests. Like I remember him saying that like sternly at Elliott delicacies and I was glued to the, the, the interview the whole time. I mean I was gonna I was waiting for to come on 'cause I was gonna write up a little bit about that. And I think you wrote about Ali, and your ended up just like basically transcribing the whole thing, almost because it was so fascinating. So I, I thoroughly, I thought it was a fascinating interview to see Lugo after Ali in whether Ali answer the questions or not. It was very talent of how trying to skirt around things. And I don't really have a relationship with Elliot all outside of passing. Hello. How are you in? I would interview fighters during media day, but in terms of enemy media not doing their job. I think. It's hard to say because I think there's so few, I m is, was there was definitely a time where they were afraid of asking hard questions. I mean I remember being at, I think it was UC to twenty seven and someone brought up like tweets about Cody Garbrandt and he got mad at him and I league a little upset and there was like something there during media day. And I think people just got a little scared of asking the hard questions may because he's always standing right next to his like you've been immediate days, and he's always next to his fighters, and he's not coaching them, or telling them, what to say or anything, but he's just his presence is there and like Luke said, are you the most powerful manager in thousand question he asked him and I it was I t probably as he has, like a lot of champions. He has a lot of high caliber fighters in that could be very intimidating for some media members but journalists like Luke journals like Kareem who I think Kareem, not just a may. I think he's one. Of the best journalists in the world, not just in our sport. And I think he's though those type of journalists are doing their jobs, but they're just like you said, there's so few, but they're out there on their putting out, great work in saw, I would say the yet they're doing their job. But there's just not enough of out there Jada gone. Not really let you get cook. Softballs start off your eastern. Debut here. I'll push back a little bit on on. Maybe one thing that you said in that I'll is always hovering over his fighters, for media to add on. I don't really find that to be true. I mean he's generally in the room at media Debbie's cutters Megan's round stocking. Yeah. And the only ever found him to kind of just be hovering around a fighter is if they need translation help, that's fair. That is very fair. You've obviously been too much more media days than myself. And I just the want the more recent ones, I'm remembering are like UC to twenty seven when he basically just sat next to Cody Garbrandt, but I kind of had a sense that's because Cody didn't want to answer questions about pass tweets and then eventually he did address them later on. So maybe it's just what I'm like, what's coming to my mind recently if what I'm saying or especially to twenty seven none of his fighters worked out like they had the open workouts in all the alike. Henry in. Cody just refused into a workout in sponge, people very upset over it. So, but yes, you are right. He I guess he doesn't just hover there. But from what I've seen he's always around and that could be intimidating some people. Yeah, it's funny because this is I think the third time or something that we've been asked a question about a lien on this show. It's always more or less the same premise, which is why aren't more people pushing harder, I would push back on that to some degree. And you see you have guys like there are only so many outlets for people do have these type of interviews. Right. Whereas the hour or aerial show, or just something where it's live video show on you're doing this sort of interview, talk show, more or less. There's only so many. Outlets or just platforms where you can have even in that type of conversation. But I feel like people do push back on him to some degree. I mean he is he, he manages a lot of people, but I, I've had years and years and years of interactions with this guy in his never done anything malicious to me. Never I really find relationship to him. I think he gets a bad rap to some degree. But I also think it's saying, I think he just has people see what people hear all the noise from the outside, and he kind of has this intimidating or about him in, then when you interview is not this giant monster that people make out to be well to your face. Anyway, I get I only I'd only know him in passing. I don't have a relationship with them like you do in. The thing is man, like I get to some degree the levels of criticism form. But also, like you use even Luke talk about this as a manager, that dude is sick cesspool as all hell, in there is a reason for it. I mean if you all speak to any one of his fighters, they will go back for him. A thousand times out of one thousand he gets his fighters, the best opportunities available, and that's really all you can ask for from a manager. So I would put back to some degree to the criticism. They haven't made media when it comes to him. But also, I think there's some people's expectations are also maybe skewed to some degree. This is still a business of relationships, right? Like there looks interview is a great example of being a pushing back without being overly adversarial. Yeah. And he sat in Ali sat there and at the end Luke was like, I'm not trying to be competitive, and he's like, not just doing your job, and he eagle so gets I'm sure he expected, a lot of those questions to some sure you mentally prepared for it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that I have much more to add to this other. It is always fun. When you guys try to make me defend other people's actions. Like you guys always trying to make me either criticize or defend other people that I work with actions. And it's very, it's a weird thing. I don't know why you guys do that's me. But a dog I let's keep it moving this next one's coming from Matt the dunk. He's good give us around true or false. Are you ready for this? I'm always ready for Matt, the Don questions that we go. Cheers, Sean, Jose here goes around true false. You riot favor should stay retired. Now, you Ryo was also on the mayor is Monday. He said that he is very, very likely to earn may not likely, but he is very much considering coming out of retirement. True or false. You should stay retire. I don't like the word the phrase should I don't wanna tell anyone how to handle their career and it's not like he's, he's obviously a successful businessman he has gym. He's always kind of dabbling in these small businesses. So true or false. I don't wanna say whether he should or not. He doesn't need to come back. If. He doesn't want to. But if he wants to fight one more time, sacrimento, let me, why not sound like he's showing signs of long term brain damage like you see the Vanderlei Silva story that came out a few months ago. So should I don't like that. But he doesn't have to, I say true. I think he should stay retired. He's one of the few that, that had a really that walked out on top. Right. Like he walked out on a win in front of a crowd, and had that amazing sort of sendoff. Go live your life. I don't know. I don't I don't have any interest in seeing your. I come back and try to enter this bantamweight division. That is currently stocked. With absurd killers even do. He's a new father not to. Yeah. I mean he the game is passing by some degree. There is a lot of really young talented fighters in both thirty five and forty five. Now, I just don't wanna see your life every data. True false. The DA's versus Pettus, fight goes off without a hitch. I would just go ahead say true because I'm a will that into existence because I really wanna see it and I'll just say, I'll play devil's advocate though. I am on your side, and we've agreed on most things. Now all this play devil's advocate. All say false in who knows like I don't know of Diaz is even signed the contract yet. I mean you maybe verbally agreed to it. I don't know. But we still have a few a few months to go before something can go wrong. So I'll say false, just because I'm so jaded now that I don't think he's ever gonna fight until he's actually in the optic on like he weighs in still not confident. Capping on. That's not fair. What are the one things that you that are always said about the Diaz brothers? Never searched for sure. They never always show up. They make difficult along the way. But they always show up we go back to two thirty, you'll see two thirty. We're supposed to buy Dustin important that it was does import, but again, dust employees came out and said, there was a lot of Tom foolery back and forth, behind the scenes from both sides, where Diaz wanted to pull out. And then he pulled out in the DS pulled out anyway. So I don't know how much of that is true. It's, it's a lot of it is true. And I was just trying to get hits it which I which I get get paid like if you're getting fistfight another human being fight for your worth like get paid to do that. So but again, like I don't know. Like I'm sure he will show up, but I'm in my mind as jaded m may fan where I've been like we've had all like not even just all of these massive fights fall out, so close that I don't believe any of the these hyped fights are going to happen until they're in the oxygen. That's just where my head space is at right now. I can't believe you're putting bad Mojo on this next one. You have seized women featherweight division, still exists in two years. Yeah. That's a good question. I don't know. I'm gonna say false. They, I'll say false too. I don't know how long cyber is gonna fight for much longer in Amanda. Amanda, Nunez doesn't seem all that eager to jump back to one forty five especially because she has her fight with Holly home. And she's kinda hinted at how long she does. She might not fight much longer anytime soon than Megan Anderson, just lost at UC Rochester. And she was kind of one of the more popular featherweights out there and even she herself said, like they had that whole tough season to find some new feather way blood, and then the winner just dropped back down to bantamweight. So I just don't know. I don't know if I just don't know if there's enough talent to have the division specially of cyborg in Amanda hang it up. You national those names, you don't even mention the woman who just beat Megan Anderson, Felicia Spencer, Felicia Spencer, she, she called outside work cyborg, accepted it. So I mean but again, like is there enough to have an entire division because when cyborg was champion they were taking bantamweights and pulling them up to fight? Her often on oftentimes on short notice or pulling them from Invicta like Tanya from victims. Is there talented women out there? Yes. I just don't know if there's enough I just have to say that I appreciate the stones that Felisa fleeing has because how many people are out there, actually calling out precisely how many people can you, you can name that on one hand? Liz featherweights are there out there? You could probably name that on one hand to in the USC other than cats in Ghana. Amanda Nunez enough Alicia Spencer. I cannot remember anybody else calling out Harrison is kinda called, but she's obviously not in the but she said when cyborg, lost to amend Nunez that was kind of, like she lost her boogie woman in that. Really? That's not a column. I call. A call. It has me directly being, I wanna fight you Jose Young's and I wanted next week in, you know, downtown Arizona bar of your choice. Type of thing you smoke was that you don't want this smoke boy, I'll drive down there right now. He's calling me boy, my goodness. Hey, man. I'm I'm you respect your elders. Oh, yeah. Right. How tell me how Sputnik was live. I'm like one year old. Well, you know. So the rep is up, I will say, I think, as long as Chris, I board wants to be around the of N as long the of Sube wants to be around precise in the featherweight division will exist, just even in these one offs. Yeah. And I actually agree with that. It's is it when cyborg, retires? I think is one of the division closes. Yes. And so, I feel like maybe that won't that will be in two years. I don't know that we won't are actually say, I feel like that will be within the next two years so hundred percent see this division true or false sage north cut finds his way back to the UFC someday boss. I don't know how I don't I think he signed that big deal with one that knockout loss has the Cosmo Alexandria was so hard to watch, especially finding out about, like watching it when it happened. I was like, wow. That was a brutal, knockout. But then knowing what happened after it's hard to rewatch that highlight. And I don't know if you get specs the ac-, because I don't know how much he fights longer because that's like a career threatening injury where he's probably gonna be out for at least a year, maybe year and a half. I don't I don't know if long enough to get back to UC or if he's healthy enough, or if he wants to keep fighting. So I'm gonna say false. I'm going to say I don't know. I, I didn't understand that matchmaking from the beginning, I changed either because if you're one championship even vested in this guy, right? Like he's very young guy who can become somebody for you. And he very much seemed to fit in line with the whole one championship ethos of respect in indisciplined and honor. And all of this is the nicest person in the world for his first fight. You're going to match him up in a ring no less that he has nephews. Never competed in a ring in your match. Oh, in a ring against a ridiculously decorated kickboxer, who has won, like eight straight, Emma fights like. Like. It was an what? What's the weather like in sage we like he does have some submission victories by, like, as we've seen in the he likes to stand up and strike? He has like that wide stance and everything. So he he's gonna want, he if he had an option he's gonna want to keep the fight standing, so you give him a fighter that would also like to keep the fight standing, but he is such a high level kickboxer type fighter that rig in a ring with small gloves. I mean he he like Alexandra himself said, in an interview on our site that, like he didn't really take account. How small the gloves are or he's one punch like that's a wrap. And that's pretty much all he needed to do. And that was that was real hard to watch. And I don't know what the heck you want change. It was thinking that fight was short fight. And you could even see just the ringcraft experience from contact very short fight that it was because he was cutting off the ring. You can see Kate as sages having troubles really like figuring out where he was within the space is just like men. You guys really really set this kid up for. Incredible failure. And then when it happens, I want to ask you, because I know we're going to little along this one. Why did that one feel particularly bad to wash is it because a we know stage is a very young kid and getting a knockout like that early in your career is, is rough. Or is it be because he is such a nice guy that seen something happens. So devastating to someone who is really one of the few really just genuinely of insanely polite and nice people in this industry is it was is in one of those things is a combination of both because I agree with you seeing the aftermath of that nine hour surgery eight broke broken bones in his face like that hurt that hits me in a way that maybe a lot of these other knockouts adult of just feeling like, oh, Jesus Christ. What are we doing here? It's always gonna be the health for me. I mean that's like finding out what happened to him after I think that makes it worse, especially because he's so young. In his career. That's, that's Mike. Which is that, that's where it comes from me, like a knockout like that? So a young fighter could be career ending career-threatening like all of the above the him being overly nice and just being basically a golden retriever inside a human body like that to me, he could do he could have done the same thing to Cosmo for all we know. Like he could've landed at one punch and broke his face. So him being the nights skim the world is I'm sure to a lot of people at all. It's like watching your little brother, get hurt. And I get that. But to me, it's always gonna be this young prospects, entering the primers grew who still prime. He's twenty three years old, this primes probably like three years away, entering the primers three are still developing still learning was thrown into a wood Chipper. And now he's gonna lose probably year and a half of his career if he ever comes back. So it's always gonna be that to me. It's, it's just it's a it's super super disappointing. The especially for a fight. Who we thought was going to be the future of this sport? Also, not for nothing. How ethin- big is Cozma Alexander because think you'd see people keep saying that. And he actually he's competed in, in, in way classes, the same essays Zorka. And then when they, they had raised his hand, he didn't look that much bigger than sage north to, like, I saw a lot of people. I, I don't see it. I don't I don't think that's. I'm sorry. We're talking over each other. That's my full, but I'm just super Leary of, of the whole weight cut system over there at this point because it feels like they added that didn't look like say, I agree with you. I am very leery of it. But I don't think that fight in particular because if you look at cosmos, last fights, like he's fought in a lot of like catch weight fights at Bela, Tor, and other promotions where he's pretty much the same way class as sage north cut and standing next to each other. He doesn't look that much bigger. Maybe little taller lengthier, but not physically bigger than sage north got. So, yes, I am Leary. But that fight in particular. I don't I don't think that's I don't think there's much into that for that fight. That's fair. I just want to wrap this with the boat for a second time. Now I've said that weird, I'd never said. That was promotional malpractice to steal a phrase from the, the man who originated this program does the throw him in there against Alexander. What are you doing one and it, let's that was your goal to get him to lose. Maybe a hey, you know, look at this. We have better talent than the OC if your goal congrats. He did it. But otherwise, what are you guys do? All it costs had Cosmo a one championship fight before that. Or is that also is one debut because if that was his first one fights not like they built him up. I think he had what seven or six fights in ballot known. What had a few one championship like kickboxing fights? But I think that was the first one championship Emma may fight to one championship kickboxing fights, one of which was against Nikki wholesome. Which is just like so he, he basically went from find Nikki whole skin to, to say shortcut interesting. Okay. Maybe in the pros the cons, obviously outweigh the pros. But if he sees North Korea had just crumpled cosmology Andrey like we're saying, we're sitting here talking like, oh saves just want to get knocked out, one of the best kickboxer. No, we're not Cosmo Alexandria is one of those guys, but he's not like the super well-known crazy kickboxer like he's still very niche name. So the, the cost benefit ratio is just like he's best case sage goes out and scores. Crazy now. Get like you're saying, like, I don't know the people have blown up like hey man knocked out by sage north cut. I don't know if they're blowing them up blowing it up. But if I think if he knocked out, Cosmo, and everyone then looked in who Cosma was in. They realized how high Alber, and it's all that's all animated retrospective thinking like they're going to be like, oh stage knocked out this nobody and then people that watch kick box. And we like it wasn't really a nobody, and then who? Now I get what you're saying. It is all your, your whole premises projecting that the populists will do research after. Very fair. What are we? What are we talking about how right you, don't you don't want? You don't stink may fan sit in up in the wee hours tonight in research, one championship fighters. I know that the shit eating wild Mun deal phrase for my good friend, Ben folks, shitting wineman definitely will as we'll weed. But there is a large contingent that will not. Let's keep it moving, though. And K E sorry, Madonna wants to bark. Hey, buddy? Thanks. Good job. Thanks. Sorry about that. We dirty does less than one hundred fifty thousand pay per view of is true or false. Less because I in my mind it's probably going to be right around one fifty I mean that ESPN plus buying the pay per view to buckle that happens. That was a nightmare. I was it was it was the UFC two thirty seven or two thirty six was the first one. It's a nightmare for some people. But it is definitely not a nightmare for the UFC enjoying it. Oh, yeah. As for hundred percent, but in terms of total buys, I'm I think it's going to be right around the number. You said because I it's just so weird. It's it's annoying to buy papers. Now, I think. Yeah. I think I think true, it's going to do under. I think he'll probably do like one thirty one forty. I, I think this is sort of our new normal. And I've said skull times now, but you'll see two thirty nine we'll be the big one for me. What to you in set, the benchmark of, like, how high can we actually go with this sort of setup? And I have a question for you before, like a million, pay per view buys would be like the like the milestone that people would wanna hit. What do you think is the new milestone that people are gonna be shooting for now? I super curious to find that out like we're comes in with four hundred thousand pay per view buys on ESPN. Plus, that's a huge success. That is a monstrous success at this point, that's once a win to thirty nine happens in a couple of months, that'll be a really big interesting sort of just the in point of viewpoint of just okay. How how big can we get this without Conor McGregor because even let's say Conor comes in and does a SPN plus pay per view as gonna hit a million. I don't think no way. So that, that, that is when you truly find out. The ceiling of all of this. I, I don't know. I, I want to say that it's, it's six hundred seven hundred thousand but I have no concept of paper views right now. So, right. It's just a whole. It's a new world is a streaming world. We live in now now and then last two if co promotion was feasible, Greg hardy process, Jake Hager would be the fight to make for both men. Oh man. That's true. That's absolutely. Yeah. A hundred censure. I mean. Yup. Absolutely true. That who do you who do you think would win that fight? I think I think Jacksonville would Jake Hager. Yeah. I mean, that's what you I'd have to lean. I, I would like to see Jake Hager fight someone that's a little more physically intimidating inside a cage. But yeah, I tend to agree with you. How dare you criticize the legendary TJ? Listen, sir. I was in Rosemont Illinois for that fight. I interviewed TJ Jones I am. I am TJ tombstone Jones, sir while we're friends, so no. Or it's not true, TJ TJ was a great interview. But I in terms of I would like to see someone that can actually like, really push Jake Hager inside the cage, but I tend to agree with you, that I would favor him over Greg hardy, for sure. Yeah. It's that old adage of you. Inexperienced drivers inexperienced grappler, I think the grapplers gonna usually wins just going to you would think so. Yeah. And then last one, and this is unfair. ESPN will poach all the best talented MMA finding. False us every fight is still vigorously talented, Gordon skills, squatted out. We have the best Bataga for in all sports, Esther Lynn, got one of the best cameraman's Casey were Danny's grinding away. Alex is a machine Ghirmay in pizza or two of the best reporters in the business. They don't sleep. They just work in. We're gonna be just fine. Everybody. I was going to say you're going out on a limb. They're starting to name names, because once you're doing it for in a live context. You're gonna forget somebody, but you didn't. And so good for you. A man of the people, let's keep things going, man. And let's talk about this past weekend. This is from rival Lee was no about Charles Oliveira, great fighter. He says, how far did you think he can go willy ever, get a title shot, so Jose? This is one of the more interesting storylines. The come out of you'll you'll see Rochester. You got Charles L very continues to fly under the radar at one fifty five, but now he does. He has five straight wins at lightweight. All of them finishes is this man legitimate player here at one fifty five. Yeah, he absolutely is. But it also shows you how deep that division is where you can rattle off five straight wins in a bunch of stoppages, like holds the record for most performs the night, bonuses record for most submissions. And I don't think he's close to a title shot whatsoever. But it down the road. I think he absolutely could get that shot. They'll also doesn't it doesn't help that his obviously, he's not in featherweight anymore in you came up to one fifty five but it's still fresh in probably a lot of fans minds of his struggles with his. Wait issues in the past, and even in Milwaukee when I was when I was there, he, he had said that he still has unfinished business feather way. So a few months drop back down there that you might get a title shot sooner by at one fifty five. I don't know if he's close. But he's definitely in the mix. I like what you said there about people are still thinking about that, and people can't stop thinking about that because I agree with you a hundred percent. I think that's actually was holding back to a weird sort of out of the cage degree, right? Because he is still so closely associated as that guy who just could not make one forty five, which is could not accept that he could not make one forty five in even after winter, when fifty five initially like you said, even recently, he was still continues to talk about wanting to go back down to one forty five and I think he's doing himself. A disservice by even just continuing that conversation because right now the conversation around him should be here is this guy who is eight who came into the OC extraordinarily young. He was one of the youngest fighters in the debuted, and he has slowly come into his own in his now really blossom into a bona fide killer. I don't know why it takes him beating the Nick lengths into a pace for the third time for us to find. Have this conversation? But I'm glad we're finally having it because he definitely deserves to be here. And I think as just if he was shut down the forty five taught anytime he's asked about it and just say, this is my division now and making a title run. I feel like people will take him more seriously. Looking at his his resume. He doesn't have that big name at one fifty five. I mean. Yeah. Win over Jim Milic, Jim Miller has the record for most fights in the OC. But Jamila twenty twenty eight twenty nine is not the Jim Miller that headlines like the FOX card against ideas when DSP Jamila you got that title shot at can spend some Henderson. I think Charles Olivera like you said, like I need to, I need a legitimate opponent. Like a contender top ten top five fighter, and he took this fight against Nick, Lance. He said with the promise that he would get another big name after and there's a lot of names at one fifty five, and we just because you're not in the top ten like eleven through fifteen or probably not even probably their their killers to most division. So I think he just needs that big name. That a big marquee victory over a big name like Klay guede Jamila is again popular, but not contenders in twenty nineteen. Yeah, we'll, let's go. I'm Todd Vander were the host of prime time a new show from vox dot com this season we're tackling the American presidency on TV stories that capture the way television effects, and reflects politics and culture. We'll take a look at fictional presidents who've changed the way we think about the real Oval Office that isn't gentleman. The president of the United States morning. Everyone. Please take your seats and how real presidents US TV to further their own goals. What did you come here to plug? 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Boza van was his suggestions. What say you, what do you think writer Gillespie one hundred percent? I said that after the fight after his win against Nick, Lance. I mean, I think those are two guys that are making are on the rise making the run like Gregor Lassie is not a guy who's gonna talk back at you. But he's, he's a very dominant fighter. I believe is he still undefeated? Yeah. Yeah. He's still undefeated. Interesting character loves fishing. I would love to like interns of take the championships take the ranking stake, everything out of the equation. If we're talking about just high level, martial arts. I would love to see Charles olive varying Gregor Gillespie fight inside the octagon. I could not disagree with you more. All right. Could not agree with you. More to me that feels like a nothing fight for both of those men. Neither one of them gains anything from that flight right now, they're both in the exact same spot where they're sort of I've just pulled up the rabies down. Charles elevators now, eleven Gregor Glaspie is twelve we know the rankings so mean thing, but they are at least provide some level of context. They're both in this position where they're sort of outside the top ten on that periphery looking in and they're both on crazy. Streaks to me. They both deserve better than to just have another hold your place fight. I like Ed Zimbabwe from one of those guys. And I like honestly if Kevin Lee can come back to the lightweight, I would like him for one of the other one of those guys as well. Yeah. I mean again, like I said before lightweight is so deep that I would all I'm down and watch them fight any of them, but terms of like I get what you're saying. The hold me. Like, obviously the goal is to get the title shot. And those fights that you're bringing up we'll obviously get them closer to that end goal. While in terms of I, I want to see him fight Greg Gillespie. I would like to see him fight someone that is physically in their prime. That is a high level wrestler, go up against Charles Oliver, because Charles Oliver has some is this killer on the ground. But he has a lot of submission losses in Gregor Glaspie. I don't think he's obviously not fought anyone side, the octagon on Charles various level, on the ground and his he's so domino wrestling. I just wanna see them. I just want to see it because I want to see which one of them is the legitimate contender to push themselves into the top ten. Yeah. I mean that's fair. I certainly wouldn't oppose I wouldn't be ain't mad at they made that fight. But let's business question as a jumping off point to sort of talk about the rest of you of C Rochester, which was headlined by half field, though. Sanyo's really getting a really nice win over Kevin Lee seemed to be an important win for him. He said, you know, big, big weight came off his shoulders when he got his name called he was on a little bit of a slump. Now he is sort of back in this did that fight teach you a thing about either, man. Yeah. Totally it told me that failed us on ios is still a contender in Kevin lead still has some, some work to do whether it's cardio, or I don't wanna tell them I don't like telling fighters to change camps. I don't like when people tell fighters to Fanstone chains camps, but there's obviously questions out there where what he's lost twenty. Ferguson be at Zimbardo saga lost ally. King to in lost Hatfield, assign ios, Kevin Li like Charles Oliveira. He came into the UFC super young and like fought twenty. Ferguson. I think mitt maybe a little too soon. He was just kind of one of those insurance title-fights and he looked good in there. You have to wonder where's heads at specially I don't and I don't know. I don't want I can't speak for him, but that loss of Robert is really like he said it affected him a lot, not just as a coach, but he was like a father figure him. He moved to Vegas for him. And the, the, the loss of Robert falls. I don't know if he's completely moved on. And maybe that's always in his mind. I can. Speak for him. I, I don't know. But it showed me that, that he still has work to do, but he looked. It's not like he was just blown away. I mean he's he belongs in there with these killers. I mean he proved that on some meet hop failed Assange, Neal's a lot. It's always. It's always, what have you done for me, lately, and hot field, assign? Those being on a two fight losing skid and headline card. I'm sure I actually I'm not in strong positive fans brought up all he's washed up this and that, but, like, who did he lose to Colby comes Comorros Mun, the last the infant champion and the and the reigning champion? So it's not like he just losing to nobody's, he's losing to, and he beat Robin wall, like he that forty five signed combination against the octagon is one of the craziest highlights I've seen in recent memory. So it proved that hotwheel design is still a gentleman contender, Kevin Lee has what it takes to be in the top five, but he just still has some work to do you don't minute. I'm actually really glad you brought up the rubber follows point because I think that's something that gets lost. When we talk about Kevin Lee, especially with recently within the past six months to a year. I'm reminded when that conversation comes up of a story, I did several years ago on Shawn. Tompkins. It's in sort of the Shawn Tompkins team team Tompkins in that same style. Christopher Decky man. I'm blanking on the other one he fought Josie Aldea Mark communist yet. Markovna. It was those three guys in others as well. But they were three main guys. And, you know, in the over the course of doing that story, I got really involved with that team in talked to a lot of those guys in a lot of people around Shawn Tompkins quite a bit in one thing that came out that, my, my biggest takeaway from all of it was, we do not on the outside, understand, on the inside how deep in these relationships go in how big of a loss, something like that can feel like in in, I remember totally not all of their records, pre and post Shawn Tompkins being in their live in pre Shawn Tompkins they were all army, I guess, during Szanto talk. They were all in a winning ninety eight ninety percent of their fights in usually pretty, you know, pretty good fashion. And then once once he was the long. Here that percentage dropped to like twenty or thirty percent. It never bounced back for any of those guys at that point. I hope that we're not in a similar situation with Kevin Lee. But yeah, and I married very young, but it is such a tough thing to lose a figure like that in your life who so instrumental to all of this. Whereas your whole identity is wrapped up this and I can't remember who he fought but he can only had a fight in Brazil, and he got finished. And I remembered one of the stories after that was Robert FOSS was he didn't make the trip to Brazil, and Kevin Lee was like, I will never make that mistake, again, not bringing or not having Robert false in my corner, because he's like you said, so instrumental and he got finished in that fight in to this date, he was like that was one of the biggest mistake site. I had was going down there without him in the now that he can't bring now that he's gone. He doesn't have him his corner at all. It's I can't speak for him. But I, I don't know if he's I don't know if he's completely meant. Recovered from that loss. Plus, who is such a shocking loss, who was, so tragic when it happens. We'll let me ask you one question about this fight in. Maybe it's unfair question considering what we were just talking about. But I guess it just on a physical level. You take out any of the outside factors. Seems to be a pattern with Kevin Lee where he starts strong, and then he sort of gases to some degree in fades late invites. I want to ask you what it, what do you think is? He is still very young and he's very, very talented. It seems like he has all of the tools to put together to eventually be a champion. What do you feel like is limiting is ceiling right now more? Is it the lack of a division that he feels truly comfortable in? Or is it just the cardio? I think it's a little combination of both. I was coming into this welterweight won. The the number one question I had four. Kevin Lee was, I want to see how his cardio would be without that cut. I mean he looks like he like when he fought twenty Ferguson and he struggled to make the way. And then he had that staff infection is like, all kind of sats mine energy. And then I was like, oh, let's see how is after. And then you kind of ran through Edson bar, Bosa. So I was very curious how his his cardio would be in his new weight, and he fought a guy in hoffy L Tucson knows who has some of the best cardio in the entire. You have see. I don't know. Man, I, there's he definitely doesn't have a home. He didn't look. He didn't look big at welterweight. And I think it was you when you when you talk to dust Emporia, and he said, it took him a few fights to feel comfortable like to feel like a legitimate lightweight featherweight just a blown up feather way. Then maybe that's what happened to max when they fought. And maybe Kevin Lee needs a few more fights to really come into his to grow into his welterweight body. But I so I think it's a little combination of both stance of your question. That's fair. That's fair. One last guy I wanna highlight before we move on from Rochester. And you already know where I'm going with this, because you were there in Arizona when I could not stop talking about this man, the center Luc, gang he comes out here and he gets another finish because that's what he does. Visiting Lou gay gets finishes. He takes out Derrick Krantz short notes replacement is supposed to get new magnet which was finally, the ranked guys been looking for, for so long as with their Krantz homes out makes his debut in dot making your debut against the said they look at it is a tough ask lasted about four minutes, which is admirable. But Luca gets another TKO finish she is now nine in one in the off. See over his last ten all night of those are stoppages. He is a absurdly violent man. What do you do with him next? What, what does this man have to do to get some love Jose? How are you matching them up? Well visits gate that I mean that fight was when was pretty much how you expect an and talk about making your date. Like he's one of like, who I can't remember the Ponant he fought like his opponent is now in that group of, like, I think it was Darryl Horter, whoever he made his debut against Habib Norma made off on that Florida cards. So it's like, hey you wanna fight fighting, oh this undefeated Dagestani name Habibon? You saw how both of those fights ended but the center Luc gay, he called up Santa algal ponds abo. I know they're going to Uruguay. I like that fight. Whether makes sense, matchmaking wise, I don't like or ranking wise to get to the title. I'm sure there's better fights for both men, but vicinity Luke maye to me when people started, bringing it up was like, oh, maybe Santana ponds navy will, like maybe you should find some little higher ranked. He's been on the little longer, but we'll maybe not along long bike he just his resume is just maybe a little better because he's had those, those bigger winds, but essentially, locate convinced me they're going to Uruguay. They both have Latin America. Descent. They need a main event to send Santangelo ponds navy was already headlined, the Argentinian cards. She's knows how popular used on there. So he sold me on it. I think that's a fun fight again, whether it doesn't enough in terms of getting them closer to the title is different story. But I just think that's a, it's a fun fight and make sense for a fight when you're trying to break into the Uruguay market. Yeah. I, I will add that was sent yoga positing Bill right now is sort of in the Robbie Lawler, running. He could there's a chance he could get that fight. And there's a chance that, that actually ends up happening. So, but if that doesn't end up happening, I agree with you. I think that's absolutely. The fights, make Lou gay Navio Uruguay that feels right to me that is the heat if anybody has deserved a chance to prove themselves, it is essentially look it because I am on record saying if this may gets the opportunity I think he could. Absolutely be the breakthrough fighter of the year for this year. Yeah. I mean I always thought he was one of the more I want, calm, underrated by like on the rise. And then after that, that fight against prime Bahrain ah just concussion city, I was I got let's I'm on-board, John, you're the conductor. I'm on-board this the Sunday Lou gate train. You just I wish I wish that Neil magnified happened, man. And so now the win is a win is a win like getting a w on your record is always great. But again, it didn't. Answer any questions for me. But a win is a win. Yeah. Well, let's keep moving this next question is coming from Ken bear. I guess it's not really a question, but thanks for everything this row shoddy offer ever. Remember your piece on facing Aldo. It's still the high water Mark for the major lists might pigeon. Best of lead, sir, I really truly do appreciate that Ted bear. Hopefully I will be able to continue introducing pieces like that, for many years to come. But I appreciate that this next question's coming from. L. F. M W A, who says ESPN era floundering. Ratings are super low. He writes, especially when prelims are on the flagship, it seems like every event is a C slash C plus white card with one or two be plus a level matchups. Overall impressions on the ESPN era. Now that were almost halfway through the year. What say you hose it? While I I'm gonna take will the writings. I'm gonna take a different approach and I love this ESPN ever right now solely because especially is the pacing away. I was going that UC Rochester when like we wrapped up, and it was what like ten o'clock at night. Maybe nine thirty at night. I was like this is great because like eight o'clock at night on the FOX car. We still got a six five main car to go when you say we wrapped up, you mean like we working like the fights, ended leg at like eight or something like I don't know when the end but it felt like it. They ended. Absurdly right. And so I, I love the pacing. I love the pacing. Allot. I've people online, I don't like you go on Twitter. It seems like every time a new fights coming up. There's one there's another tweet and say, wow. This pacing is great. I, I can get behind this and feel so personally, maybe we'll selfishly I, I enjoy, I enjoy the youth, the ESPN era, a little more just because we're not sitting through all of these long comer. Breaks in were to get to these fights. And then when the fights do happen, you're just like all right. Then set another thirty minutes in the next fight. So I enjoy. I enjoy the PIN whether the streaming the streaming service in the ratings things, it's still it's new, it always takes a little while I, I would imagine to get to really find your footing in a new home, but I personally enjoyed the PIN era. Yeah, I would say that view of C in ESPN, I feel probably mutually. I can't say for sure, I'm not a thirty on this, but I would get surmise that both of the mutually are very, very happy with this. Because for ESPN the you have C is not a television investment as much as it's Istrian investment. So when you say the ratings on the for the prelims may be on ESPN regular aren't that great. There's still not terrible. But the big thing is, they're driving customers to ESPN. In their driving, a very, very targeted very large niche, Bates of Emma may to ESPN plus in, I think it's safe to say that the UFC has probably been one of the biggest. Biggest draws four ESPN place, as a streaming service, I would, I would, I would guess I would hazard a guess that Italy very large percentage of these PIN streaming service populace at this point, these percentage is a mammalian UFC friends. And I think that's a huge, huge win for the for ESPN and the U of C both. So I like you. I'm enjoying this so far. The pacing is certainly made our lives me in you in the rest of the media is really made our lives. A little easier on weekends, not having a stamp until God knows win for terrible fight cars, but I will add that, you know, this gentleman said, that seems like every event is a c c plus fight car with maybe one or two good fights. It's kind of been what we've been doing for years now, right? Yeah. I was going to be like, like, what's the difference between this year in the last seven years of the of the Foxtail, how quickly y'all forget how terrible so many of those FOX cars were just atrocious cards with maybe one or two fights. Yeah. And saying I what was the card it was? I can't remember where. But it was the Charles olive air. Max Holloway fight card. Where seems like every fight went to a decision on FOX like, and there was always the FOX pacing with a bunch of decisions, the whole time. I'm like. Charles Oliver, max hallway just wants. See fight. I love that fight, and then Charles like gets hurt in, like a minute. And I was like, oh, God. Like that's a me is like the pinnacle of just like. Just the FOX era, where that car is dragged and then the main event just had tomfoolery in at the end of it. Yeah. I would say, look back in the past if you think that these cards are weak because there's been a trend for a long time, and this is sort of what we deal with at this point. There was a reason. The oversaturation argument was such a big discussion along. All right. Next question's coming from MVP, U, K Michelle Pereira discuss. Yes. Yes. We will he writes, PS gutted this, you're leaving a fighting hope you'll continue to provide YouTube content going forward all the best foot future. Thank you for that. I really do appreciate it. I will continue to provide content of some form. But I cannot say what right now what's going on? But please follow me to it. It should be fun. I'll, but Michelle Pereira mind goodness Jose. I don't even know really where to start with this man in, in our slack. We have an EMMY finding slack where the whole team, sort of just converses throughout the day throughout these events. One of I won't name names. But somebody who is not watching event saw the Heil saw the, the last, maybe like four or five seconds in Sira, buddy said, no, my God, knockout of the year, one of the knock your best knockouts ear, and he posted instead, wisest bet one of the best night, it seems like a pretty cool, knockout. But I don't know that. It's anything crazy is just fine me and the answer. Would he got barraged with people basically saying that knockout is only one percent of really the actual performance in that? That's the truth man is, then knockout was cool, but more or less that was. Just like I don't know how long it lasted but for however long it lasted it was just several minutes of Michelle Pereira doing ridiculous shit that didn't seem like it should ever work in somehow it was very much working in everything he was doing was working in it felt if a weird if felt like a video game, it felt like a movie, I do not really understand it, it may be an I'm trying not to exaggerate and, and go into hyperbole here, but he might be one of the best see debuted I've ever seen. Tell me European shepherd is I don't know what the hell I watched still in. It's been several days, the best way, I would describe it is, if you and I played a UC video game, and I was so much better than you. But I owned an XBox and you own the PlayStation and we played on your PlayStation, and I was sitting there trying to figure out the controls. So I'm just hitting all of these crazy moves inside while you're just like watching me just do like these crazy backflips in. You're like, what are you doing? I'm the I'm trying to get the controls down. And then I figure it out. And then I connect with a flying me like straight punch combo, and that's a wrap. And I was like all that come and I just need to figure out the controls real quick. So it it was unreal. It was technical button mashing at its finest where he was throwing all this crazy stuff. It was highlight was very high high level just in. Like there was a purpose to it. That's what I was gonna say. It's not like it's just like fluff in, like he was just doing it to do it like every move he made there was, it was rhyme and reason behind it. And then it was just a culmination of this grant of this big dance a violent dance inside the octagon than it was. It's, it's gotta be up there for UFC debuts, especially because that entrance. He was crying his eyes out. Yeah. That's a good point. He was crying, his eyes out getting in then he turned the introductions. He was like break dancing like Dernley intros. And it was like who's this, this man cried? And then he's break dancing like, what, what is this? I'm like, oh, you must not read misfits on and may finding dot com because they he's been on their few times. He's, I believe he's the one that did the backflip like off the cage on, like seemed like a moon. So the whole time it was like this is I don't know if he wins. But this is gonna be a memorable fight. And then I didn't I did not expect it to end that way. I thought it was going to do some wine. Stuff. But I think you would finish deigning Roberts like that. That's the thing is Dany Robertson, a gay Robertson, tough guy. He's push over years, not walking. No one's walking over Dan providence. Like he is gonna get suck you into a war if you're going to beat him. And that's not what happened on Saturday. And I you mentioned the walkout from the walkout to then, the break, dancing, introduction to them, the ferocity that we saw with all the also the goofiness. Our friend Casey, our cameraman, Casey Cullum, wacky violent in. I think that's a really good way to the phrase that he is just wacky violent. I've never I mean you see this a lot of times with with guys wanna make they're making themselves. They're just doing shit just to do it in. It doesn't really feel like there's a purpose. If felt like every single move it he was making whether how regardless of how rages it was. It was so fluid in it was, so it didn't feel forced it felt kind of natural in a way that I didn't that didn't make sense. I was blown away by especially. Yeah. Robertson is dangerous. It's nothing to sneeze at. We'd go through errors of U of C aware, eventually ground, and pound is the big thing. And then you have jujitsu and then you have this fluid striking, and with the emergence of Johnny Walker and. Wow. You said his name a million times. And I've already heard Michelle Michelle Pereira. This is just the, the, the Arab dance inside the gone. And I am so here for it. I think is our buddy Ghirmay crews who said that this was pride. You would just mash those Johnny Walker. And all my God. Yes. A hundred percent you would regardless of weight classes like I'm kinda here for that injected inject that in some veins, last question on this is this is this like a legitimate thing like, is this somebody we should believe in target or is this just end up being a fun guy who wins, some of them maybe might Perry? Stop. I mean I know it's tough right now. What's your gut telling you? My gut is telling me. Because also I've got to say he's huge for that division. He was monstrous Sizemore, and I'm, I'm gonna it's hard and I'm going to compare it to a few sports. It's like when you get this hot pitching prospect or how batting prospects but you don't know anything about him, so you don't know how to approach him, so we'll have this initial success in the once you crack the code, and, you know, where in where if you're if it's a batter now, you know, where to pitch him or if it's like the when you get this running back or quarterback in the NFL where all of a sudden, the read option was really successful for one year with RG three and Colin Kaepernick. And then all of a sudden defense coordinators could scheme around it? And now you don't see anymore. Same as the wildcat when the dolphins did it especially because remember when the dolphins play the patriots and patriots had nothing for it. It's once you crack the code it doesn't work anymore. So I would I want to see a few more fights. A few more fights for. I can really answer that. But I'm he's a fun guy. I think someone eventually is gonna figure it out. It was a weird patriots thing to throw in there. But while you're doing there, but it's kinda hard to come at the goat who has six rings of this. He. So it seems like you're leaning more towards maybe. It's not flash in the pan. But not you don't think this is sustainable. No, I don't think I think he's, I don't think he's changed like it's key. That's who he is. I'm sure he's gonna fight like that. All the time. I he's just not gonna get flying knee knockouts every single fight. Yeah. I'll the we've said the same about Johnny Walker. And yet, he has done that in every single fights of are pretty high level competition. So maybe I'm gonna choose the believe Michelle Michelle Pereira. I think I think this could happen. I want it to happen, because I needed another person like this in my life if if a year or two from now we have, Johnny Walker Michelle Pereira dominating the sport. I'm here for that. The air of dance my friend, the era of dance, my friend. All right. Let's keep it moving this next wants from me, low of croton who says you have see calendar. Hi, guys. It used to be thought that if a fighter left the OC for another organization in subsequently lost that you've seen made the right decision in cutting and letting go that athlete recently we've seen. Sage in Eddie oath lose t- DJ even had a tough fight, though. He won the question. If fighters keep leaving the scene subsequently losing at what point does it start to look bad for the brand in what it means to be a you'll see caliber fighter, does there come a time when people start to view the other promotions as having equally talented fighters in as a result? Devalued the UC's best in the world brand. Thanks PS. Good luck, Sean. We will miss your life jet. Thank you so much for that. So if we keep seeing guys like sage Eddie come to these other promotions in lose is there a point where it starts to look bathrooms. That's a really interesting question that it would look bad for the of see. I had not thought of that at all. I'm sure it will look bad in the eyes of the quote unquote, casual fans. I never I hate that phrase, but I mean you saw that headline. I can't remember what Sida was, but it was like saves north guts. Suffers knocked out in, like minor league promote. Ocean and one in Riyadh roasted for that. Yeah, that's been and it was like one championship is not a minor league promotion. But if you and I have the most difficult man say has ever fought probably I mean, he fought like that dude Stockton down and snipe them with a hand grenade broke his face, and I'm sure the optics will look bad, because I know I know they're fighters whereas like, oh, what do you like I've talked to fires like, and like on the regional promotion, and they'll meet people that don't know what they do. And they go what do you do is like an may further? Oh you in the UFC and they go. No. I'm in like ballots or whatever. And they don't they don't know about. It's like this fan doesn't know what ballots. Whereas they know what you'll see is. So I'm sure the optics of these fans that don't know about one championships and ballots, the ballot towards exist. I'm sure we'll look bad. But it's a very interesting question that whether will look bad for you have see I, I, I don't know. I do not know. I think I, I agree. It's a very interesting question, and maybe not one that I had considered that much previously. But I. Also, I feel as though at this point, the UFC is Kleenex, right. You have yet Hugh chips. The you'll see is just it is such a well-known well-established name that, like you said, a lot of casual fans even referred to the sport as you have seen. I don't know. I think at this point it is relatively infallible like it would take something to a very crazy degree happening for you have see to maybe lose some standing in the sport in this world. Just because of the sort of the way this sport has been built up over the last ten years. So I don't know that it's gonna ever start looking bad on the U of C, if anything, I think it might will good for the AUSSIE for in the way that likes the New England Patriots to use your logic. Always let these veterans go maybe one or two years early where they still have maybe one or two years. Good good years left, but there then they fall off in the patriots aren't paying them crazy, money smother teams doing that for lesser performance. I think if anything. People may start to look at it like that. But also, I mean I don't know that like nobody's seeing any Alvarez lose. And then thinking less of Eddie Alvarez, really like these guys were leaving gay Garba Saucier, ROY McDonald in any hours. They already have their bonafides like they are already got it capital with a capital, g so I don't know that, that's like, I think, if anything you just now, people know who Cozma Alexander's right now, people go, who Timothy Nussey is sort of anything you just helping out. You know you have the other promotions to, to promote their own guys in maybe get some level of. Yeah. Some level of I think actually I just. I just, you know is the live show ranting a little bit. But some level of win deadspin does release a tweet like that of minor league promotion, you know stage north debut. They get barraged with people telling them that that's not a minor league promotion, whereas two years from now or two years ago. I don't think that happens whatsoever that people just allow that tweets assert flow into the either. Now, people see it and get upset about it. I think that's a win if anything one hundred percent in for all the sage north cuts. Eddie alvarez. You've had that suffer those, those knockouts early. You get the gay Gardner, sausage, barring McDonald's and Ryan, baiters who jumped to another promotion clean up the gold, invaders jam champion and other promotion. Now we're talking about how years ago beta versus DC we lost out on that. So it's a double edged sword for sure. Yeah. Alright. We have one question left from the funding Chattan will head over to Twitter on this one's coming from Robb, Holland true or false, Sean will stay active as a podcast. I guess she's going to have to wait and see false Chuck will take over the a side. That is false. But we will discuss that more later on in the show. True or false, Kevin Lee will never fight for a title. What do you think hose it? Wow. Interesting. Honestly false. The you have C us so many random interim title fights than random last minute replacements, like he could be fighting on a card. And then in his division in the championship falls out on the main event, and they just pull them from the prelims to the main event. So I don't think anything's out of the realm of possibilities in the AFC at this point. I mean Joe Soto offer championship in is usually debut 'cause he was the only other bantamweight on the card. So I there's nothing out of the round the possibility that is very true. And so he's very young and you never know how this is going to play out. Maybe in two years, they do, do one sixty five and then maybe he's one of those guys. So I'd say falsely. Well, I think he will fight for title before. He's done. True or false Frankie Edgar retires after he loses to max. So this is jumping a couple steps forward. I don't I'm gonna say false. I don't I'm gonna say false. I, I don't have. I can't obviously I don't know what's going on in his brain. I don't know whereas head spaces at. But I mean Frank, he's lost James advice before. And we thought he would never fight like he'd never get back on his two losses to Benson his his law. His losses to Josie Aldo. I him get him in those two losses to Aldo. And then people thought, although would never lose to anyone not name's Connor after that thirteen second knockout, like we've had this conversation before we go always, Frankie ever going to get the featherweight get the UC, James toback. Like, yes, maybe you lose to max. I don't I can't it just my gut is he he's not gonna retire and I can't explain why I say absolutely false. I absolutely false. And I say that because break, you're, you're still has one more thing in his back pocket. You still has one thirty five. He's still is back pocket in. We have heard from a longtime for Mark Henry that, that's probably Frankie Eggers. Best division is the man who was champ at one fifty five. So that's always incredible to think about. But if things go poorly against max, I feel like we will still see Frankie. Edgar try to be one of those guys is a two division champion in go down to one thirty five and try to see if it can make he can make it happen down there and wouldn't that be something if he did, if you're I don't know any comparison for someone who would be champion at a division, and then two divisions lower. That's a pretty. That's a pretty wild accomplishment of is able to do it. So I think he's not going to retire until he exhaust all options to be able to get gold back in his life. Is he teammates Marla? Yes. If Marlin becomes a champion champion, though. And Frankie lose to max, do you think Frankie drops down? His teammate is the champion at one thirty five mean anything can happen in this sport. Right. You never know somebody's going to be the champion. So I, I don't think they would ever fight. In fact, I'm pretty pretty confident in saying that. But I could still see him making the move just in case more than most that's fair as very fair. All right. Let's keep it going. Next one is we will drew false. We will see the one twenty five men at one forty five wins divisions go before we see one sixty five for men. On YoM true. I think the fly which vins already on its last legs. It's champion is finding at one thirty five and like we said, I think cyborg, the featherweight division ends when cyborg, retires. I think we, we were in agreement, that's probably going to be either in two years, or somewhere in there and Dana's beating that into a horse where one sixty five isn't going to happen until he's gone from the USC. So I'll say true. I must say falls, but I think I it's true. I say true regarding the women one forty five. I think that, like we said earlier is probably can catch it on. How long cyborg wants to stay around? I have no idea what to think about one twenty five for men at this point, I have absolutely. No read on this flyway division at this point. It seems as though you ac- is half in half out can recently was talking about how he's gotten assurances from the UFC that division staying here. I hear other whispers about how it's not people getting cut left and right. I have genuinely no idea what's believe about this anymore. So I could see if you know you've seen man, they are not willing, they're not hesitant to do whatever they want to do. So if they wanna be half in and half out, I could see them being half in and half out on this division for several years. If that's what it takes before it finally just kinda shutters. And we still have that. What benefit as informing happening and that's at flyway and that's basically a number one contender's match on. Yeah. I bought again. I just I don't see one five happening for few years. So I'll still stick with my true still Mitro true or false, two thousand twenty the UFC adopts one's weight program false hundred percent fossil hundred percents hits that no way they they've been doing that for what twenty five years, the same thing. I don't think they're going to change anytime soon, also because they would have to do it in a way that has very different than one of see the way they do it. Oh, yeah. Because they're that level of non-transparency would not fly over here with all everything that would not fly whatsoever. You, you're not gonna let us see the weights, you're not going to let us see them way and you're not going to give us a list of the weights and would never fly over here at yet. So emphatically false online. Yeah. Same true or false Seattle Santos surprise is John Jones with a few big scares John edges amount, and a decision like Gustafsen one. Yeah true. I mean, I think he'll really I don't think he's getting I think he'll surprise them with something. I mean Jiagelo Santo decision though. I say false, I think John's dealt with big hitters like this. True in the sense that I think he's surprised as John would something. But I don't think it reaches a decision. So I think the first like Johnson like what is happening right now? This is a, a three headed chainsaw with limbs coming at me. And then he settles in finishes and later. But I think they're like taco Santos is so unpredictable in there. I think true to catch to surprising John with maybe one or two things. But in the end, I think John does finish them. What are the other two heads on that change, though on a hammer and because he has the hammer on his chest. Right. And a flaming sword. I don't know what it's go from. But I like it. True or false. This is wholly homes last title shot. Interesting. False. I don't think I I'll say false seems like Holly always going to be in that. On the I'll just say false. I like she's always like. It's hard for me to on thinking, but she's always going there. He's always one. Yes perfect. She's always right there. And when they need a championship fight. I mean, she fought cyborg, featherweight should never fought or feather way. Well, I guess she did fight. Technically the first featherweight champion, Durand me Germain Durant me like that was the first featherweight fight it, she lost Janet fighting again because the vacant title. So also, I'll say false because Holly's always in that title pitcher. I'll say falls, what I'm very hesitant with my full because she is thirty seven years old. True, she has a game very much predicated on fest, which sort of reactionary stuff. But she's also the, the number one contender into divisions. That's true. She does she did be Megan Anderson, that was a feather way people people kind of forget about that. She, she had her pick of basically. Do you wanna go for this other way town? Or you wanna go with his bitcoin title against the same person. So it doesn't really matter like when he wanted to do. But if this Anna newness fight, it's close this controversial in any way. I can see them running back at forty five and even after the Megan Anderson, fired her post by press. Calm someone was asked to go after that. Like do you want the feather way or the bans on makers you basically have the picking her answer was like forbade them was, like I want it all. So she wants all those titles. She's going to keep going for. So I'm gonna say false. Yeah. And then last one from starting to more from Robb Holland Charles Oliveira's the dark horse, the lightweight division. We already talked about this pretty extensively but I'm gonna say true. He's one of the dark horses. I think they're sat. But that like, like we both said that division is so deep in so talented, there's, there's multiple dark horses. Fisher yet, but he's definitely woman in the last Comoros moon doesn't rate as long as Tyron Woodley. But he will have more title defences. That's interesting. So more tiles, so basically more tile defenses in a shorter amount of time. Like he's just more active fighter is what he's saying. That's what I gotta that. Yeah. I mean, he's pretty active but he just had what he had near new surgery. I think or something like that. And he doesn't even have his first title defense until Tyron Woodley took that break between that was it Maya and was it till was at the long break you had. So he had a couple of breaks yet between my intil. Yeah, those about and then long between Kelvin and Robbie, but that was then he'd knocked out rod, then he was pretty active after that 'cause he fought Thomson twice. After that. But so he tired has from. Not right now, his tolerance over, but he ended up with three times offenses, and I guess four three and a half depending on what you want to count the draw. That's more of a tile retaining that really defense. But is about three three and a half timer fences you think tomorrow and get more. I reserve judgment until tomorrow has his first title defense, actually booked because we don't know when that's going to happen. That's fair. That's just in time line, you mean this, because for all we know he won't fight till December in. That's like months after he wanted. I'll go, I'll say falls doing drew, but I'll reserve judgment. Yeah. And then rob ads hate to see go Sean with all the best steak, he drove quality content smiley face. I really appreciate that rub. All right. Well, that's all from the fighting page. Let's move over Twitter now and you guys can ask wishing using the hashtag a sign. Let us see this, this is a good one. This is coming from her. Good buddy, Dan Shapiro out now LA. He writes that you have see two thirty eight has five women's MA fights Ballantyne of versus just got. I suggest war is versus answer off. Caroline, a couple Cambridge versus Grasso called a win versus chew Kagan in Angela hill versus a Chinese name, then I'm not going to try to pronounce because I will not get it, right. Is this the best lineup of women's fights on any single card in MMA history? Also, what are your top two show shot pieces? I think it's definitely the best in the UFC in like it's, it's obviously retrospective thinking, but. I think it was like those early Invicta cards like if you just look at all the names that blossomed into like these megastars like, I think it was Invicta. Two or three where like Carlos sparce, JoAnne. Calderwood. Teasha tours patrons on that car like those were the pre limp fights. And then, like, Jessica penny, I was in the main event, and so those early Invicta cards looking back had a ton of talent on them. But I think in the U of C four shirts, it's the best all women's not all whims. But like it's the best stretch of female fights on one card. And before you answer my two favorites on I'll shoddy pieces. I'll give. There's two I have two answers for differences. I think the best the best long form piece. I've ever read them was your Sean, Tom's piece for sure. I mean I read that and I was like, well I thought that was a game changer. Well, it was a game changer in how I viewed long long form writing a may was very I knew it was possible. But it was it was that was such that I still read that sometimes that was such a good piece in then furnace stouter reasons I was stuck in an airport on Christmas day in the only thing I had was my phone and I read your, I believe your inner. So that Silva sixteen came on Christmas styles reasons that one, and then I moved into an apartment and I had no internet, except for phone, and I believe it was your India diaries, so consecutive days. It was weird, though, the, the Anderson and India diaries for nostalgia reasons, but that. Sean, top speeds to me is still the gold standard of long form writing, another may. Minimum pushy, that appreciate that a lot. So. The question is this, the best line of women's fights, any single carbon in m a history? That's tough. I mean like you said the early Invicta cars were probably really good. Also, if you wanna go to school, some of the like old fashioned hook and shoot cars. We had me, she's young and all those really like true Trail Blazers back then in, in the midwest, those really good cards. Well, but Steph. Yeah, I think the best you've seen lineup for sure. Let me ask you among those five fights, Valentina, Jessica ice, Juarez answer off co located Grasso called her. What UK again angel hill versus again. Sorry, Chinese woman that I cannot pronounce. Which of those five is, is do you have your on the most touchdown Swart's against Phil. Against fill in the blank. I she's I had, I wrote the the breakthrough fighter of the year list. And she was like the loan, a one of the female fighters on it, and she she's, so she's so talented. I had she's been pegged. I remember when she won the ultimate fighter people are already kind of pegging her as a future title contender in this. She's only gone better and better and better and better. And she's winning dominantly so Tatiana Suarez versus blank. I'm always going to be the most interested in. Agreed agreed hundred percent. That's one hundred that's the number one contender fight for me. I cannot wait to see that one. Also, lent me, not answer off has been continued to surprise aren't saying wasn't she hinting at retirement at one point? And then she took a short notice that just Ryan with it should be like, does a pretty definitive wind. So I don't know. Man. I don't know what this, but I'm looking forward to that. Let's keep going looking for. Questions. This one's coming from AUSSIE fight fan says, hey guys, we are all sick of these sea level judges in MA. How about the you C hires fighters who are on the card to judge the fights pros. They know what they're looking at. They have experienced they get paid, they interact more with fans cons, none thoughts. That's an interesting idea. He says, how basically the of see hiring their fighters who may be around, but aren't on the car to judge divides. Are they still on the roster? He didn't say, but let's say, yes, I would I don't want fighter on the Rosser like judging car. I think you should be not even you should not be an employee of the you have C while or a contracts, the of see while you're judging event, and I do believe it was you that wrote this article a long time ago in enforced someone as Forrest Griffin this about, like, what do you think about judge fighters judging fights? And he was like, no and fatty. No, because fighters will judge based off of their style. I know he's he was like, I'm not like if a wrestler fights, a forest, Griffin's argument was he always favours guys with high volume in low power output, because that's his type of fighting where Matt, he's like me and Matt Hughes will never agree on a kick boxer versus a wrestler, if they fought their style. So for a long time, I was again, fighters should judge, but then Forrest Griffin was sown? Fatted with his no. And laid out all of these reasons why he definitely swayed me and forced not the best person to answer that question. Because maybe he just doesn't want to judge, but he I tend to agree with with his take on it. I'm curious what you have to say though. No, that's a great point. That is it really great point. I forgot that for that little comet from force because you're a hundred percent right. Black belt who spent his entire life on the MAC is going to be giving much more weight to, to grab it actions and things like that -fensive wrestling, while well guy, who's gave by his entire life is going to be much, giving much more credits jabs, and right of various stand up techniques. Also, I this is a bad idea for more reasons than that, because just also fighters have bias. He's mainly. This is a very, very small world, all of MA, everybody knows everybody to some degree in some fighters light some fires some fighters don't like some fighters. Some fighters used to be teammates with some fighters some fires. No people that used to be teammates with so fires. You're just coming going down a road where you have no way to have any real knowledge of, like, hey, what's disguised connection to this guy? Hit truly unbiased observer or is there may be something that happened seven years ago to one of his teammates that, like that sort of thing, like there's a very slippery slope there. That would if you're giving them the power to sway matches for people who are actually in the same promotion as say, even a guy who is a lightweight is judging the lightweight fight against contenders. Yeah. The he has his own stake in that at that point. So it just wouldn't work. It's a good idea. I mean, it's an interesting idea. I don't know if it's going to be, it's interesting. It wouldn't work. All right. Let's keep it moving. True or false. And this is coming from J stat five, four true or false, Frances knocks out, JD s than gets a title shot. True. Also true. I mean we we've talked we talked about, I think it was after it was after is knocked out of Kane you were like, I think Francis. Might be the best heavyweight in the world. But that was always if Dan of Cormet was gonna stick around or not. So also true Francis has looked was last two fights have have his last five combined to be two minutes like Curtis blades in. Is Kim glasses that I just said, so I'll say also true, whether I don't think it's another flash knockout, but I think he's just stronger faster harder hitter all around. So I'll say true. I true. Well, I say she was well, I think I think. I think for as will be changed by the end of the year. I'll say that. Ooh. So he was so. Do you think he fights steep a or, or Cormie? Or do you think he fights for vacant title? I think that regardless of what happens next with St. bay in Daniel is a good chance at dinner, retires would be fighting. It would be France's for probably St. bay or someone for the begging title or maybe steep. A winds. Then you go into the Francis rematch or maybe the winds. He goes into the Francis rematch by some point at the end of this year. Francis will be so undeniable that he will get that chance to fight for a title. I am a believer in what this man has become and it's, it's not like he's at this, like, yes, he deserved when he knocked over like he was clearly the number one contender like same for now. It's not like there's an argument against him. So get that towel shots. I like oh he's an ex he's not the flavor of the month. He earned that title shot if he beats radius, especially now that it's a main events, a five round fight. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. I agree with you. Let's keep going next questions coming from Natalie zen Mundi. Oh. Who was asked essays north suburbs. Such a severe facial injury. I wonder if he'll ever be cleared to fight, again, who else has had their face broken to so many pieces in return to the cage, I don't know about, as many pieces, I guess, I don't know specifics of their face breaking but cups wants certainly handed in this a lot earlier in his career with Joe's Aldo that, that it's miss. Double need that took how long maybe ten seconds, something like that, in the W, E C, and he certainly bounce back to have a really nice, really solid successful career. It's not a deck Nell by any stretch, and actually cub reached out on Twitter to Satit offering some words of encouragement after something like that. So that was very cool to see, but that's one that sticks out to me of getting his face broken still coming back and having a long career afterwards was that the was that how he got injured though. I always under the impression that it was a training injury that he when he broke his face like on the severity of sei's north cut. For. Oh, you're right. I think you're right. So in that. I don't know. I don't know. I don't I could totally be wrong but I know cub brogues face at least ones. Yeah. I believe there was a training but still that, that he was at the same after that shirt took him wild to get back from that Aldo one-term. You talk to him. In terms of. I can't think of anyone that's had that severe of a of an injury in the UFC. I know there's been fighters like Amir so dollar who've like when they fought. So in love with he was never the same. But that was like a prolonged like constant barrage of beating and he never physically recovered, but I can't scuff Swanson was the first thing that came to mind. And he, he ended up being like climbing way back in the contender ship. Yeah. Okay. We'll hey let's hit two more questions we were running low on time here, this order pretty long show, but I figure why not right. Screw this experts from Puerto boy. No good man at waterboy. No says one final true or false, RDA fights for the title, at least one more time. Thank you for the great context, Sean. True for the same reason its Kevin Lee nothing out of the round. The possibility in the when they're handing out tile shots again. Like not like to me you, if you're fighting on a card, like, I remember talking to Jose tours about this before you see twenty seven where he wanted to fight on the same card as Dmitri's Johnson Henderson ks. One of them got hurt in. He was the only flyweight on there, and that he just got pulled from the prelims up to the main event. So the us done it before. So I'm going to say I'll say he'll, he'll, he'll fight for title because again, nothing is out of the realm of possibility. So I'm assuming you're in this scenario that would be the one seventy I would imagine unless they make a one sixty five. I say false. I don't know how much more he has left in being this world high level class guy, but it'd be cool. It'd be cool was wrong. He's always been one of the good guys in the sport. He's always for a long time. One of those overlooks fighters of his era. Really? So it'd be cool to see him go out with one more title shot. I just. All right. Last question in this one's coming from Chris pool at Mabel Mabel bacon eight like that say eight so as we prepare ourselves for Shaheen less a side podcasts in you to please reflect on a moment from a fight week. You covered that has stood out in your memory. Thanks guys. All the best cheers. Of covering it together just individually I think is just individually he didn't say anything about together. So what's, what's one memory from five weeks for you one that stood out for me was, I was super young, and I'm sure you've gone through this before when you're young when you're new in the game, it's media days can be a little intimidating specially with all those scrums where you're trying to get your interviews and everything. And I wasn't doing video at the time, but I had, like my recorder, and they did one of those media days where it was. I believe it was for before Aldo McGregor. When they took all the fighters that weren't even on the card all the upcoming fights. So they had like it was like a month after Holly home knocked out Rhonda so like she was like there and they had TJ in Dominic in. Cats in Ghana was not chasm Gano may. I can't remember all the fighters there. But it's basically that weren't fighting the next day, and they were all not cutting weight. So they were much more lively and talkative and eighty nine no I was one ninety four. Oh, yeah. You're right. You're right. You're so and I was trying to interview Dimitrius Johnson as someone's gonna knock on my door. I now I was trying to redo meters Johnson. And I just couldn't like I kept trying to get my questions in and people just talk over me and someone do, again, into music John's was like, hey, this young man has been trying to ask me questions for the last five minutes, and it was like, and then I asked a question, and he was like, that was a good question, because I was writing this thing on like he fought in the WC and stuff. It was like all this WC fighters headlining the biggest card at the time. And I was trying to get all these WC fighters their, their takes on it. And it was like when you're new, and you're not you're still trying to build that confident. And like arguably the grace fire in the world, kind of, like reassures, you that you're doing, okay? Like you're gonna be like you're doing. You're not you're not an idiot. Beijing. Like that was like to me. I was like cool, like I can do this kind of moment, so that to me, that's the first one that really stuck out in the later that time I stopped at cruise and give it if you dodgers I asked down crews about the WC and he talked for like twenty five minutes while other reporters behind me we're like, oh my God. This kid get outta here. I was like, sorry, guys. Hey, you got your story. You probably got. I did. And so that was really the time I was like, all right. I can I can do this moment. That's cool. That was a really interesting week too because I was when they're doing the three events in three days that was a long week. Yeah. That was while I remember that we really restraint strongly that's cool. That Dimitrios did that for you on stage and I remember, I remember turning around and Chuck mendenhall. I looked at me and gave me a wink in thumbs up, and I was like, all right. I, I, I, I can do this stop being nervous to talk to people that stuff is needed, man like back in the day, a couple of different fighters. Do that for me when I was still really young starting out in its it. You're intimidated environment with athletes in you're young. You're young guy all these veteran reporters around. That's that's awesome. That's really cool story. Yeah. That was so that was really important to, like Mike in like it confirmed that I wanted to do this for a living. Yeah, I think my two might to memories of fight week that stand out really strongly. One of them is, you have C two hundred and I don't know that there was even a particular memory about that week. It was more so just three days stretch that started with this craziness in the middle of the night with John Jones popping in every Inle everything that's devolved from that we mean Ariel and Mark area who wanna Margaret money were actually doing an EMMY finding live chat, just like this one at the exact moment, when we found out that all of that happened in that actually in about five minutes, there's gonna be a press conference downstairs across the entire MGM like a run to basically. And we're casual clothes we had cut that live jet short in just sprint out there and go cover this weird press covers with data Cormet crying, John Jones, crying in Dana white, not having any idea. What was go? On. And then from that point on that whole week was just crazy. It was just nuts. There was one thing after another. I remember at that, that impromptu presser that you have CPR staff were around, sort of in their gym clothes, like they just come from spin class like everyone was beginning to weaken everyone was already totally thrown off in the next several days chaos. And then the event actually happens. And then literally twelve hours later, the of C soul throat this crazy figure, and I was at the summer league basketball just watching, like hard weeks over a midget enjoy. Some summer league basketball watch the young sons in halfway through I was actually I rarely ran into you have CPR that I know pretty well down there. We was washing the Suns together and halfway through. He looked at his phone, and he got ghost white in. He was just like I got a leap and it was just something's going on. And then, like, like five minutes later, I heard from somebody else said that sale. It happened in just the weirdest week I have ever experienced at if I weak ever. It was just chaos nonstop, so that's one that sticks out. And then I think the other one that always will stick out to me is you'll see one ninety six which was d McGregor to that was out one. To what think of it, which is the rematch in. I've covered a lot of Connor fights over the course of my life in those were always probably the most fun weeks that I've really had them road. But to, to was just a different level entirely. It was it was unbelievable environment to you were there. Right. I think I absolutely was we saw nights each other. Yeah. That's what I thought it was an unbelievable. Environment is really hard to describe somebody who isn't there. There's that big fight feel times of thousand and also the animosity between the two camps because it was very much like two different sizes, west coast, east coast type of thing. We did the preview show after the way ins. And so all of the, the Irish were rowdy as all hell after these way in super site. And we did a preview show amongst a sea of Irish in both myself I in the marker Mondays second pick, Nate d is to be Conor McGregor. We were incorrect, but we picked him amongst the sea of Irish and the whole preview shows just cast, it's only like seven minutes long, and at some point, we lose Mark in the crowd is carried back from the people and it was Ariel just it is. It is truest pro wrestling, Paul Heyman type of mode. He was just crushing it owning the stage. It was one of the coolest memories. I think I have from my week is just that preview show. In watching it afterwards and just cracking up in that was really such a wild week. I remember watching that happen. I'm like, I I'm curious if I'd see them after this ever again, or they just get carried into the ether, but that was because that was those Wayne's were in like a ballroom to weren't. They wasn't even in the arena. Yeah. That was a I remember entering that week. I've kept saying this is a big fight, but it doesn't feel like it, and then when I got to laws, Vegas, and after that, first press crumbs to the water bottle phone, and I was like, all right. This is this is madness right now. This is gonna be anarchy in the streets in will hundred percent. Right. So, yeah, that was a wildly for sure. That's a good call. Because I remember the entire first beginning of the week, the whole conversation was like, oh, this doesn't feel as big as thought it would. And then it soon as the water bottle thing happened is just like okay. And that fight card was great. I mean, you had rumble Johnson like sending two shares to like into the stands the Cody Garbrandt knocking out to came as gawky like faster than Tom Cruise in the yelling at him at the FOX desk, and then Harry getting a random call out for his UFC debut on a main card scoring phrase, I will say, I was the first ever person to interview Mike Perry in a UFC fight week because he was at media day. Your buddy, Mike Perry. All right. He was in his at media day and no one was talking to him at all. Like the media, they started. And everyone ransall all these fighters. And in my mind, I'm like, I'm gonna get all the fighters that no one is talking to now. And then when they switch, I'll get the fires that everyone wants at the end. So I- within the first thirty seconds immediately. I just walked up to Mike ferry seven minute interview memory have got crossed so that interview never saw the light of day. And then what did you say? Time is in teed a flat circle. 'cause now Mike parent higher basically linked forever through the magic of the internet. So it's, it's definitely come full circle. Yes. He's a big fan of your friendly. I'm in. I'll never live like if I that from known for that's what I'm known for Amen and someone who has very unfriendly hair. I am extremely jealous of your ability to have for me. I would trade you in a second. So, you know, I'll trade you my hair. If you can trade me, your wax poetic ability to put words on onto the onto paper, you find me a genie who can somehow get this done, and we'll do it deal. I'll trade you a couple banners. For the Suns guy. Then you didn't even need sweeten the deal, but it's already in. All right. Well, I think I've wasted enough time. I don't know that I can stretch this any longer. I don't wanna say goodbye, but I think I have to say goodbye. So at the end of our show, we do something called the promo, and you guys know where we talk about, whatever we want to talk about Jose, you're the guest of honor today. So would you like to go first short? I'll keep it short. Because I know you wanna do your thing in this all off the top of my head, and I kinda touched applying little before. But I've been getting a lot of tweets and messages saying, like oh, are you guys ok the health of the site going gonna be is still going to be around and were like, and I'm not promising that we're going to, like try to work hard like we're this isn't a promise to try to work hard. This is we're going to keep working hard. I mean, I think we have the hardest working staff in the business. Ester is to me, the best talk for in sports. Not just combat. Sports all sports. Casey, what? The best video for Dany than the mayo with Luke, absolutely. Fantastic. Combo one Danny. I work every day together. Alex is a machine. I can't say enough good things about his work ethic, where he'll just go work for hours. I'm like out. You've probably sleep. These are stuff to right. Oh my gosh. And then feeds E G are just holding it down on opposite ends of the world. So this is a we're going to continue to work hard, and I know it's weird coming from me, because I am the newest one on the staff and people don't like change. And I know like I have like a nose ring tattoos and all that stuff. So maybe I'm not your Cup of tea, but this is since I'm here and I'm saying this we're gonna keep working hard. I still think we're the best staff in the business. And yes, I'm very sad that we're losing Sean as a writer, but I'm very also super sad that we're losing one of my closer friends in the business because I've saved this for the end obviously. But, like Sean, and I went to Arizona state. We didn't know each other there, but we kind of gravitated towards each other because of that bonds. So it's weird that I worked we see each other and fight week. And every fight week you would be like just keep working hard. Because Sunday, I remember you telling me this at UFC I think it was one eighty nine which was McGregor Mundus. You're like 'cause you had your nights, soussan everything, and you were like someday. You're going to be here with me when you were doing your preview show, and I was like, I hope that happens someday, and I never like in the back of my mind. I was like, maybe it won't happen. But eventually I got here and I got to work with you for a few months, and it was so awesome to work with you. And I'm still obviously going to see you. And I'm super happy for wherever you're going. I'm bums that you are leaving because we're losing your work, and I'm not going to be able to interact with you every day because you're one of my closer friends in the game. But I'm happy that you're getting this. This opportunity that you're gonna have. So, but there may fighting train continues on and we're not going anywhere. So hopefully you get used to my face. Danny's face Alex face because we're all still going to be here, and it's weird. When you said you did that post show with you, Mark, and aerial, and now you're not you're all off on your own quest. So it's a little intimidating because I think the three of you, if you make like a list of the best in the game, you're right there on the shortlist. So as an intimidating quest that I'm on now to keep to, to. Live up to your guys standard. But I'm gonna do my best man. You're gonna kill it. I know you're gonna kill it and I know you guys are gonna kill it. Jose, trying to make me cry. You get a motion on waterworks. I'm I'm I didn't prepare anything maybe I should have. I'm gonna miss you guys miss you guys a lot. I know I'm going to start by saying, I agree on hundred or so everything you just said, this, this is hard for people who don't see behind the scenes to understand how hard this team works in how well run like just how slick this t- this operation is over the course of a fight week where there's so many things going on. And there's just so much demand for so many different posts in content social in, etc. And this team will worth like such a well oiled machine in you guys are to just continue to kill. I am excited for you guys to get bigger opportunities. Now to become to get your faces out there more, I am going to be very much a fan of 'em may fighting for life. I'm gonna watch in. Can't wait to see what you guys do with new, you're gonna crush it. I don't know. I'm gonna I guess we'll try to not get a motion will I do this. But I started this started with this company. About ten years ago. I was a of. Junior in college and St.. In, in a class. And I just kind of settled on, on writing English as a major bounced around several majors over until I finally just figured out. Maybe this is what I'm good at. And I was in a class in one of these times for the classes was reach out to someone who's who has a job with like, and see if you can just have an interview with it. Instead, I reached out to Espy nations is a gentleman named Seth Pollock, who running ran the Phoenix Suns website on Espy nation. And I said, you know, I, I love you guys aside him the sons I love your coverage do every with you. Did the interview with him? And then at the end of the interview he said, would you, would you like to be an interim with bright side of the sun or at the time it wasn't even bright side of the sun? It was going to be an era, Zona side. No longer exists espionage in Arizona, and I was overjoyed at the at the possibility in ended up doing it. And I realized in retrospect, it was just a way for them to get free work because I worked my ass off. And they just but it was it was cool. It was a really cool action into the to the business in that somehow lead to one opportunity which led to another opportunity, which elderly, let's make finding and when I came to fighting I mean I was. It was real to me to be part of a team that was so talented that you had been folks area wanting Luke Thomas all of these guys might she a penny oggi's of the game. Who really, you know, build this from the ground up, and it was surreal to me to work along, so many people call them co worker and is still surreal to me to this day, even every morning to be able to open my computer and see that on page in just know that I played some small part in this in that some hell, I got lucky enough to work with so many talented people, and that this company took a chance on a kid, who had really no actual qualifications other than he loves sports, and I forever, appreciated. I don't have words to say how much I appreciate it. Ten years in this company raised me company made me who I am today. I remember the day, I don't I don't want to do, but I remember the day, my dad. His own life. One of the first calls, I made was to our fearless leader Bryant Tucker. Because for some reason, I felt like I had to let him know that I would be able to work for a little bit in just that this team gave me so much support. When I really needed it the most I will I bleed the black, and yellow of Emma may fighting so much, and I feel like I always will, and I will forever. Like I said, be a fan of all of you and I just don't have proper were suits to thank you guys. So to try to do a quick rundown, a fake us. I hope I don't miss anybody this. All top of my head's risky. Like I said earlier, but I wanna thank aerial in lieu. My two of my mentors. My biggest mentors. I could not have asked for better mentors in this business to the best. And they will continue to be moving forward might she bent folks who gave me early encouragement is writers, and who I looked up to as riders in eventually lucky enough to call teammates. Those were the were the best in the game and they still are estrin Casey the greatest. Of all time the best at what they do in any sport. And I will rider die with forever. Congratulations. Again you to recently get married. It was guys Tommy so much over the course of the past ten years, Mark. One of my best friends in the space. Proud of what we're able to do. Man may cruise the best Daham journalists in all of Brazil. He always has been and he will continue to be he owns that beat. Like nobody else has an I say the same about PT Carol. He is the best damn journalists in all of Europe in he. No, he will continue kill it. And you guys subscribe to the euro bash podcast. If you have not ready, Chuck minute whole the best writer in the entire game. It was incredible honor to were in learn alongside him in just learn about the craft alongside him. He is our generation's, poet, he is just dependable of this of this space, when it comes to writing, Danny Alex, aka Lee, Jose jet is been honored to carry the site into this next era with all you guys like said, I know you're gonna kill it for years to come. I'm really excited to watch it in Brian Tucker, who, who is sort of the anonymous. Face to all of this. He doesn't get the headlines he doesn't get the recognition, but he is the captain of this ship in his support, your support, and belief in me has been invaluable man. You're the best boss I've ever had. It's been incredible working with you in all of you all of you out there. I'll be readers listeners supporters fans of Emily finding I do not get the opportunity to do this job for so long without you guys. And I do not properly have words to, to thank you for it. And I'm just still barely holding this together. So we'll wrap it up. But as. You pumping your fist over there. Fry. I genuinely do not have words to knowledge my gratefulness at how much support you guys have given throughout the years, the readers and listeners, fence may fighting, you guys really, are why we do this, why we're able to do this endeavor have your support for so long as meant so much to me. As Mark said in his era said before him. This is not good. Bye. It is just see later. And I will definitely see as later, I'm gonna miss now working with guys on the road made it's going to it's going to suck. I'm gonna miss now working with you guys daily basis, but I need to a rep the so before lose myself, so it's been fun. It's been fun. And I'm excited to see what you guys do this, because I know you're gonna absolutely could carry this tradition for it, and kill it for for years, and years, and years to come, and I can't wait to, to talk to you about it. Five years down the line, when you're the most famous men and women media. Wow. But yes, I guess we should also acknowledge the yet that I am leaving the show. So the future this show, the show will continue an absolutely will continue. This is your guys has shown so one person's departure does not change that. I give the show to you, Jose. This is yours. Do what you want with it. Readers listeners are wonderful. 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Sergey Kovalev vs. Anthony Yarde: Preview and Predictions

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Sergey Kovalev vs. Anthony Yarde: Preview and Predictions

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No fear in his voice mindset is focused and it's time I'm the preview and predict this fight a little early since four Anthony Yard. It is a big fight and for Kovolev. It is a very important fight if he cannot get the win there will be no super fight with Canelo Alvarez arrest which is already being looked at four October so you know the number to call in one four to five five six nine fifty to forty one press one one time voice your opinion right here on the voice of the people hotline Anthony Yard Sergei Cova Lab August twenty four this year less than thirty days away. Let me head on out to maclehose big. Mike don't forget you can add Nestor Gibbs on skype to be part of the conversation action. It was dot com the comp Yoyo Good morning good morning good morning everybody out there in the universe was so job Oh Anthony Yard Kolev August twenty four biggest fighting the one seventy five vision <hes> we know that the by been talked about foil a couple of months now we have a earlier date but these guys pushed back to always he's in the fight even place notice and they'd be Arado rumors about Camello and Co lab in October came out last we <hes> we got Deborah Chain Co and cope with. I mean in a canal. Oh put an I._B._M.. So that might take president over the cover their fight now at the happen man. You know that I am taking F._D._R.. He's younger bigger fresher fighter and he takes to beat Kobe. We'll be in Russia will be a tough tags but we'll break it down and you get into some of the particulars morning going on this nothing much brother good morning good morning good to see you back back so let me ask you. What are some of those particulars? Obviously you know I'll come out and admit it. I have a problem seeing talent you know or believing in the visual talent I like to see it tested. <hes> I watched some prediction videos from the mayweather box club on this and everyone that talks yard says the same thing that we you say here on the show. He hasn't fought anyone to get him to this level but I don't want to think that way right and lose out on an opportunity to pick yard to be the winner the differences I feel like it's a huge task in Russia their banking on knockout what happens if you can't knock out Kovolev like Kovolev is still dangerous. You know it smells a lot that was a heavily touted up and coming prospects slick light heavyweight and got destroyed. Nathan cleverly was a champion undefeated at the time he got destroyed. Compete you former champion destroy like there's only two dudes did it took over that I can recall and that's Alvarez Award and you know Alvarez not on that ward level but he still showed that he's on a level and I just want you to help me see what it is. The chew see outside of in. I mean no disrespect but it's a it's a handsome guy doing some mayweather moves in training and that's been his stick for a long time and I think it finally stock but are those skills that we see in pad work and shadow boxing. Are they going to translate densely on that big night honestly when I look at M._p._r.. As a big Yar there is campaigning once five or so I do think coming in and he might be a little bit stronger than a a Cobra but that's just my assumption one thing that I do like my watch Anthony Art as the body combination in the the willingness to go to the body. I know he <hes> he does the show to row which is mayweather the thing but in my opinion a little bit more aggressive coming out of that that showed a Rowley he's come forward kind of those a lot of combination and you heard our guys. That's a fair on many times saying that <hes> Tony Ajayi has so many combination day they implement in their game plan and they just do on a daily basis so come they should punch body shots and just being a young line in my opinion in you know why I like at the yard and then like an incentive for they still full on this podcast even before that so maybe I am just a going going up above me liking them so much but I do think that he can't get the job done against Kobe there but I think older maybe his best days are behind them and they might be catching them at the right time there. There's a reason why a Camello maybe decided on cola a potential opponent. He may something to that. He wants to exploit so maybe our we'll we'll get that chance verse. If we don't get any big surprises from the main of Camp Indie Golden Boot camp so now what compare their hands speed is yard faster because I see him with these placed shots you know he seems like he hasn't been put on the pressure. He hasn't fought a pressure fighter wider. He's able to play them. The counterpuncher showed the roll like where's this speak comparing. Its Kovolev. That's the big question he got good hands be known as that Eh but on this level you know we just don't know until the guys getting ring. I'M NOT GONNA sit here in B.. Ly Kovalev the slouch Kobe Damn good boxer. We say his pedigree coming back against the guy who knocked out who knocked amount came in and win a decision a year with buddy mcgirt now so I just think that we won't find out the hand speed or the chain or anything like that into those those guys getting the ring now I watched some interviews on yard and and you know I think they were from July fifteenth. If I'm not mistaken was the upload date and he still doesn't no one. They're going to Russia any concerns for that. And how soon should he be there. I think that the typical norm out of the country get there before the guys like to do it one week before fight fight we giving them a total of two weeks to get acclimated. Do you think that that's going to be enough yard. You know that's never traveled for competition honestly. I don't know how far a hey Russia is a U._K.. U._k. but they seem like they're pretty much the same the sending I could be absolutely fucking around <hes> but I don't think that the time difference is what it is if they were were coming to the United States so so I think that being overseas already and being in the U._k.. Already might be able to get over there a week earlier or maybe two weeks earlier but and my Immi- think I'm thinking that the time zone is relatively close so they might go over there like we were for the fight. You know because you don't WanNA WANNA check into the hotel and fuck around and you get room service and Shit that you've known saying get you sick or something Mike they're saying we heard all kinds of story. How the old days where guys used to go to different cities fight the the the hometown favorite knows you might might get a little bit smaller hotel room he normally he would and I see guys in the name and yard better bring his own food? <hes> watch what he eats <hes> how serious you think I don't know the can contamination of food or or or him getting some sort of virus right. Honestly I think the teams <hes> most of the time they bring their own food what I'm saying the the way the world is now you can order online. You can give fresh fresh ingredients delivered right to your door so I don't think that's a big deal anymore but I would like those guys to travel with their own water the food and things like that just to just to be on the safe side knows because this is a fighting on saying that they can really change his life knows he be aground. Be were a champion now. You're looking at advice with with Alexander Guide name with top guys check him better be having agent vacation so possibly get to win a of that and also. You have a got a champion Dmitri Vivo that'd be B._A.. So Yeah Super Chat <unk> Anthony Edwards the Queen City Cobra he'll be back in action September fourteenth phone Boorda wars six will he'll taken on Marvin the tank firm and he says I got Kovolev by stoppage and four Sunday don't know shit about boxing and that's crazy because all the interviews that I see people were calling him <hes> a genius and those that are calling him delusional and diluted his rebuttal is most geniuses were called crazy before they call they were called geniuses yards defenses when when when Floyd said he was T._b.. We laughed at him when he said he would make as much money as he did in one fight. We thought it was impossible so when people think that me going to Russia to defeat Kovolev overlay of is impossible I laugh at them. I don't even think of those people. Do you believe that a fighter can block out social media negative comments the betting lines what what the media thinks. What does the fan things you know? Can he blocked that out. I mean let's be honest. We're all human day. I mean we we look at the comments. We pay attention to social media especially. especially the younger generation N._p._R.. As a younger guys I'm sure that he sees the the whispers on social media that he can't get it done and things like that but he always says there's like not worried about well. Other people say other people think no saying he's worried about what what what he's going to do and how his team is going to help them do that. At the end of the day is like yeah I mean it may break his weigh in on Sam but at the end of the day. I don't think that the negative comment from people will be a big detriment and I also believe I we see many times before people hate you that I love you on so if you over there and and the business people are going to be happy and Dr Cheering for you know what I'm saying guys we see all the time everybody loves. They were a winner so long as you win. People people talk about you or your you'll get there floyd mayweather. They were people just can't stand you fucking prosper. I hear you man so I don't excuse me super chat from Andre The avenue in the camp dream dream dreaming believe it I got Anthony to win has tax fear the hash the growing tune the stamina of the sale of brand so I've Cova labs record pulled up here you see how you see how <hes> m <hes> Google this showing your mom my searches and shit. I've been looking for dog strollers and Shit. My fads dolls can't run with me. You know and I can't leave him in the house alone. They will fuck shit up. They ain't playing man. I mean they fucking shit up for rue. The little one got my dresser all beat down but listen Kovolev thirty six any of your decision on your in that win based off the age yeah you do it right by staying on top of knowing when it's time to stain your deck and your fence lows is here to help you do it right with the supplies you need and the know how to get it done plus. We even help you save because now when you buy one gallon of select bow spar exterior stain and seal it you'll get a second one fifty percent off the mail-in rebate. Whatever you need to make your outdoors even greater do it right for less start with lowes offer offer valid through seven thirty one exclusions apply see store for details filming stylized lounge presents an evening with the progressive box? That's Hugo tickling the ivories he just saved by bundling ruling home and Auto Progressive GonNa finally for that Gal of Yours Hugo send him my condolences this next one there's in my aw Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates discounts on available in all states or situations for everything about timing I mean I think this is a good time to get over there. Thirty six years old business vice with a war too though abundance and vice versa operators both those were with cigarette fighting that as competitive as the first fight but it's empty Anthony Yard to to show everybody that the younger fresher guy could can get it done over a guy who has a a lot of experience. It may not be the crusher that he was once upon a time but the threat to anybody in that division. I remember Shibrine Ski. Kinda getting beat up. Issue Breath got fucked up no fighter at the time he got. I Buy Sullivan Barreira then he was able to fight a Kobe versus first offense. I believe back when he'd be Andre War. If I'm not mistaken yes so what's the difference to you between Jail John Jean Pascal and Andre Excuse me in Anthony Yard. Pascal Scout Yard is technically more sound than Pascal Dude. Things pass cows a bit wide so I won't argue why not as active older now. I don't know how up Old Pascal but I do remember him. Dr Having some legendary <hes> faceoff would tell them and so if I'm out there I mean when he passed. I think palace cow even though he's still fighting to the date you don't send into just upset somebody and the pass cow. The fulco-vilella was maybe the second version but the first version. I don't think was that oh I think I mean I got a double check. Pascal seems the only have had two losses also the time one coming from Bernard. I'm pretty sure one maybe Dawson. Maybe let me see I just know pascal rope any five market Braille coming up saying but yeah these past face in August Brown coming off a loss to Dmitri bill year loss to around right the one would be so Alvarez go twelve rounds with one that beat Cova. That's the Pascal hanging hangs the go-to around with the guy because he's a wild veteran and he knows how to how to I mean he's still got power to like. I mean let's keep in mind. He did <hes> gay stopped <hes> Ahmed Ali who was upcoming prospect heavily out it and he had power himself. I know he wasn't technically you know Roy Jones who agendy turned the Ajayi is comparing Anthony Art so he said he you said jarred is Floyd Roy in who else he said three guys do know the third one. I'm going you said Fuck you say about House Cow. Oh no man to compare those sleek black fighters pass cow was one man I mean he. He Ain't a robot here he a <music> super sloppy might just you know what it is. You also probably assessing the latest version of pass skies exact Yo Pascal was a chant man he he was up there in his prom. You know at one point you know I mean look somebody always going to have something to say. 'cause I believe he added Typhi with Chad Dawson. Maybe where like ahead but ended it or something like that was on H._B._O.. But I'm just saying you know I'm trying to see what is what we know. Kovolev is given up about nine years two yard. I don't pay twenty six twenty seven twenty seven twenty seven and I think Oh bless thirty six right sound like that so yeah I mean there was able to be Pascal. I'll just think that maybe better version of the of who he is when Pascal Guy with a little bit odor coming out the hockey's like is that like I let me see I know I ain't showing it should be let me just pull it up for myself. When he fought Ishmail Salat John Pascal they had bedouins coming into them fights? You know they show something coming into them fights. It's like you gotTA. Hang your head on own artists. When you thinking of yard is so maybe it smells a lot was just all you know our tests because I'm not seeing like a big light heavyweight name jumping banal on before he got that Cova left fight that was on E._S._p._N.? or or or H._B._O.. I remember Max column in being a high on select <hes> H._B._O.. Because I know he should brand didn't find another guy that was the same stable but not quickly who who show brand ski then he fought for Ego Milenko or million a year we even with Malinche ads like around around the two and this thing right so like Isaac Kalimba. He's gone decisions with Eh Cova Lab people believe to you know <hes> how many rounds the Cote Kovalev take. I always gotta sign in this bullshit. How many rounds Kovolev go with cleverly that was a European level champion? Clearly Ma'am stopped early though fan of clever seen them her belly win it just keeps getting better and value as years go on he got stopped fool. He got stopped in full and then after as when he forced Salat doesn't go better though doesn't get better time when when you if you'd be value and then belly went on to move up from light heavyweight to Kruse way to capture the title to then defend the then move up to heavyweight and and beat a heavyweight yeah man you win looks good he he when he went to like America's data's Sam now he went to meredith no fight. I don't believe so he went to a HE B._J.. Floors defended a champ but he moved up so so he went out to fight Lucy. I do believe that he was late. Dragging Ninety five and the fight between mccur <hes> cleverly from all intensive purposes was one of the fight the U._k.. Public has put all if you let them tell us oh I don't know how much cachet cleverly forbidden Tony Bill but he got a victory over them <hes> but I never went on cleverly about buttigieg load up from one sixty eight and beat the brakes cleverly on the Mayweather McGregor on the car in a couple of they'll beat them too so I just fearful of the pressure you know we haven't seen yard under that pressure and then we can't deny that cove labs artillery is is serious like lasting to go on a fighter as power so we want to talk about age we still no he could still knock you out. Moseley still knocked out Margarito old you know he still hurt and buckled floyd loyd old so old Domi nut into power and you know the words behind the Jabba coming forward I mean he could be different now under the hands of the buddy mcgirt who are text this morning but I think buddies in California these days <hes> so just still waiting to see if we could get him on not probably take your time taken a little words batter knows he might be in Russia too and that's why not getting a text. I haven't even like checked it. 'cause I mean this fight is what twenty twenty days way twenty five days away so they like the twenty eight they like. I don't know why would they some tag on twenty five as plus today's Dr. That's what I'm saying how many days thirty one thirty a lot of thirty one okay so we got about twenty. Six days is on the twenty four for August. I'm interested in the fight. <hes> I just don't know how to pick. I'm being honest. Honest like my mind is telling me you know because he's like more experienced. He's been in like he'd been in there with ward like you know he'd been in there with Alvarez he'd been in which I think twice what number twice or no do believe even in there were like Gabriel competed. I was listening to Sunday giant. He's like oh basically paraphrasing raising your everybody's saying who did y'all fight before he got the title show who who'd he is so he's I recall that fight and dues like well you know he fought Nathan cleverly our high you see and it's like Nah. He fought gabled competed who it was a former world champion. You know what I'm saying. He beat Leonel Thomson who was a mayweather promoted fighter and maybe that's where his cloud stops but he's still hard nose like you know he's a tough dude. He Be Darnell boom same due to drop Andre Ward beat Adana Stevenson. You know way before Donnas became superman so like I don't know man to do pedigree Kovolev had names from the giddy up from the giddy up. He was in their names even Cornelius way veteran nothing. Hey you know I'm not right in home about white but it's like name after name after name like I know born Dr Donal yeah no boom and most of us do Lyonel Thompson Holocaust gnome compete you we know him white. We know him cleverly. We know him solid we know agnew we know him because boxing was scarce gifts back then and we only really had H._B._O.. Showtime and they obviously put Cedric Agnew in there with Coppola. He ain't really done much after that fight. You know what I'm saying. He ain't even get buzz after the break Blake Capello fellow you know I know and maybe how it goes. No He's from Australia. He got the shot next but he's still a recognizable name Hopkins Legendary Name Pascal recognizable name but in there were numerous fighters now he he being covert in my opinion may Mohammadi famous like I never heard of Nejib Mohammed took over left stop them and then Mohammadi went on and get more light heavyweight fights becoming more recognizable in the division but not early for winning but then he went pascal again like this dude has never really had some. Nobody is just been all names which my I guess ego is that nobody right and that was well deserve and so I mean I mean we even new Sandwich Renske so but I guess that's that's where it's in. These are all tough fight stone and maybe the odometer. Is starting to show some some wear and tear you well you already saying decisions based off age as well but do you think he has too many miles. You think those these fights have been tough on them. I mean when you think about it. A only to come to mind there were three to the two wars likes and the fight would aberration. I don't know if he's really been like that. They kind of the Kobe. I don't know how up they'd be. Bransky was easy easy fight Malingco whether you defy even though it's Lamba went to distance it wasn't like it was more of a lackluster performance from Kobe because I believe that's a fight he took before he fought <hes> were for the first time. I remember watching that Fight H._B._O.. Just like this guy that's my war but I was determined. <hes> Coppola did really put a whole lot of effort in that fight so <hes> I I wouldn't say he's he's like batter or like war-torn or anything like that. I just think that he's a little bit older. You know what I'm saying reflexes. Maybe maybe a little bit slower knows it might take a little bit longer. Flaming hinted to warm up now. You may have to pull up on a little being gay. You know it's in every now and again but that's the biggest thing. I don't think he's he necessarily went to war a whole lot of now. He has all these house on now. I do think he's a little bit older but that's about it. I mean we've seen him like old dog. Learn new tricks would would buddy mcgirt now again. You know watching interviews with a ton degi. He's like that that Anthony Yard has or is the glamour or brought the Glamour to the division basically he's trying to say he's The star he's he. He literally said he's the ace side what other big light heavyweight name do do you think is out there like what's when you think light-heavyweight who comes to mind I in your opinion Madrid people so you think bill can be a star Glamour to the division the way that Ajayi I use <hes> preferencing it they both one of those hard at his guys division star. GotTa learn English no saying I always said that but he has some opponents of where he break. It'd be a damn good fighter. There'd been Ruben. I'm moving down to once. We got to see how that plays out but guys that can you be star. You do it right by staying on top of knowing when it's time to stain your deck and your fence lows is here to help you do it right with the supplies you need and the know how to get it done plus. We even help you save because now when you buy one gallon of select bowel spar exterior stain and seal it you'll get a second one fifty percent off the mail-in rebate. Whatever you need to make your outdoors yours even greater do it right for less start with lowes offer valid through seven thirty? One exclusions apply see store for details U._S.. Only stylized lounge presents an evening with the progressive box tickling the ivories he just saved by bundling home and Auto Progressive GonNa finally barring that Gal of Yours Hugo sending my condolences this next one st there's there's in my aw thank you Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates discounts on available in all states or situations. I don't know not really better be any been champing really doing any beal star. Now I mean coverdells. He's probably the biggest already in the division right now in a V._R.. They beat them saying so young kid brash North Santa competent very very confident. <hes> got got endorsements Adidas over there so yeah these able to win. I do believe that the start of will rise in the U._K.. Public will start to get behind him now. Colin Price Bay or or improving things like that. Let me throw some names at your you say now yard is more popular same level. You Know Heavy WanNa answer. It is <hes> <hes> Jesse heart just more popular he he's more popular than just Hartford. Fighting fire was Barreira but I had the better win can moment Emma. Are you preferencing the popularity in the division or overall because you like Oprah all right so why does it matter the only had one fight at one seventy five. We're talking popularity and factory and that he would like to use. Here's a the the better weird jar to factor in that you like to use the E._S._p._N.. Platform how big it is and how many households it reaches heart if anybody has had that platform longer and has been using it. I know that anthony yards last night was on the B._T.. E._S._P._N.. Deal which I think he aired around three or something like that Alaska advice ban on your Nello on the car I went and so we got some supposed to be on that theory car while I just think there if you go I think if you go to America among the box Harker people know people know Anthony Yard but if you go to England how many people this just I don't know I was just trying to see how much credit you give heart for being on E._S._p._n.. Repeatedly and having world title shots on E._S._P._N.. <hes> does that. You're the loss not more than twice because he lost Gilbert then he got to tune-ups where he got to knock outs on E._S._p._N.. Danny Gilbert Oh again. Danny moved up and fought on E._S._P._N.. Again Year those two losses Roberto Good Berto really really going to build them father but I just didn't like those two tune-ups really would've needle nobody. We're really talking about it when he falls other Barreira I it was I fight but it wasn't really people just clamored and talking about and what about the man you just speaking of Gilbert over Ramirez Zalm does he add glamour to the division is he in Eisai to Anthony Orders. Anthony Arts still the side so Gilbert. Oh Oh no no no good Berta with the Mexican fighters so he brings in a lot of Michigan this can fan base but he just not the star that you'd think he would be by having them families those you'll be bigger than what he is now. Maybe I'm just being a hard on him but he's not the not the name that I thought Johny the be especially being a how far they once the one seventy five north south are you'd be a bigger star than what he is right now but that wasn't happening in yard was negotiating or struck a deal with go Bertel. Would he be good Bertha. Maybe if I if they will be obese at or as I if I if it was I feel like a mandatory if before mandatory I guess I did and I work. I like that but I'm not quite sure it will be a side. I really I'm not a big fan about eight thousand besides having well. I'm just trying to gauge like all right yard wins this title according to Thandi he's brought glamour to the division like are we all of a sudden because look when Anthony Joshua one the belts heavyweight division became hot is that's what's going to happen at one seventy five 'cause that's what Sundays insinuating if this man is. The Glamour Man of the Division is all of a sudden going to be jumping in every fight with yard we wanna see and is going to be pay per view like I mean I mean that's what you can hope for North but the guy I know he's saying you you should put him on what you should put a star. Hopefully you end on the moon and that's exactly what he's doing by saying they don't be the glamour of the Division. We we don't know to the happens. Don't see could be go back to being the same old and the already e._S._p._N.. So I'M NOT GONNA here in agree or disagree I agree with them. I just say Tom Time will tell you can't really say who's going to be a glimmer of a division. Fans will choose that agreed agreed. I mean I don't see many more. Your name's Marcus Brown. He has to really really take control. The zone outside of the rain before we talk about Mark Brown been a big time big Tom Arnold because it's always like is already. Something about Margaret Nelson Center is any of his own or e is any of his own but a lot of times we hereby Mark Brown for the reasons all right <hes> man. I'm telling you this is <hes> everybody else. Those be English by Gacek. Jack is still in the W._B._Z. rankings. I don't see him in any other rankin Lincoln's down or the A._W._b.. As well no idea though before he speaks English better be on the he's English so Feis is but those guys will be big but those guys really don't speak Brown struggling to find like five names man Anthony. You don't get me wrong. It would be a hell of a career if he won the title beating Kovolev you know next fight. I Dunno body Jack next fight. Somebody like a Calvin Johnson or something like that. When Eddie armed fighters I mean that's probably having Johnson Johnson is with the tarmac those long Edie Edie say sitting the Johnson over to the dead? No PROB pay cal Johnson's a person or and I believe he he said that before before this but I'm presuming the same way relate any believe that Kevin Johnson is a better fighter and can be yard and that's the reason why warrants a couple away from a early on because he didn't want to jeopardize that world title shot they weren't meant that opinion can change as soon as IAGO's in there and knocks out Cova. I don't think I mean obviously he's. He's not GONNA stop column from Fighting Yard and probably you still have the same enthusiasm. Get Yard that fight but I don't think the belief will be the same. I think that the enthusiasm will be the same to get the FI because now you're getting a championship fight for your fighter but I I think that from you know the thought of domestic level fight and or challenge <hes> if he beats Cova like hell no you can't look at column Johnson as a threat. I don't get me wrong he is he got a big right hand but I don't know man I mean better be got up from you. Know people getting up from it you know and yard is very young. He's as a tattoo facing. He said you would come struggling with names. I'll give you a little bit named when you watch. You know what I was. GonNa say. I was going to say the by do Jack I then you know maybe go back home and do the true domestic fight the people want which is the Brazzi fi but but you know maybe it's better to give a what's your chance to get the bell my Maffei Long May and might get the Bell I think but big on take wets down a sanction body trying to get him a bill from one of those guys who are who will fight yeah. He's highly ranked in the I._B._M.. So I think that's where it will happen. I mean he could also get a shot in the W._b.. Don't get me wrong. He's number three and be a I think if if the metric people in the wind down like a lot of speculation that he will be it might be fight for begging title a zero saying. Do we still here that I haven't heard anything or seen any headlines with biven thoughts moving down in a way. I'm just going off hurt. You know what I'm saying from from him. A people don't think they were rumblings. After the fight with Joe Smith that they would thinking about going down to one sixty eight bit Dimitri people go down to one eight you're going to be a problem is going to be a real problem for anybody at the one sixty eight pound vision knocking gadot and once every five with no problem when sixty eight is going to be tough and I do believe Anthony Junior is also moved down to sixty eight so well. Let's get out to these phone lines it. Did this thing started. We're GONNA stop sponsors. These calls are brought to you by El Camino electrical services experts in electric vehicle charging stations for consultations in Turkey installation visit us at El Camino electrical services dot com remember to write his five stars on itunes going out to to Mr T. say maybe much good what up whatever they always good man. This is going to be a go fight <hes> because last time I check man my Somma for can check Cova. He brings it but cut stolid mix fight Anthony Yard on bringing he takes his time cases energy at a good level. Try To you know make sure his energy last because I've really does bring it within the last two fights ago cover that knocked out. It just makes me think about some shit and covert of is getting old. I'M GONNA have to go Anthony Yard even though he really never really brought it and. Already been in a tough fight. I never really seen where you can do. I like how he keeps his energy low. He keeps his he he stays calm and collective. I'M GONNA have to go anthony and <hes> that's my prediction but I like to say this is a beautiful day in p._v._c. neighborhood and seeing <hes> Floyd Mayweather you know knowledge mother fucking injury prone for giving even him Devante tank is seeing floyd mayweather talk about he's still part of P._V._C.. He's still without Hayman as a business dance and I love P._V._C. and that's my call well all right dominic man. Thanks for calling in <hes> do appreciate that. We're GONNA. Let's see here looks like we got a couple callers on skype. Don't forget you can add Nestor Gibbs on skied to be part of the conversation and you can also call us at one four to five five six nine fifty to forty one. If you're listening right now on Youtube go ahead and smash that gums up bud and health with the visibility show got two hundred ninety three watch us on the two hundred eighty three thumbs up. 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I'll read you know you wouldn't investigate these started. He started driving. We started dropping his hands and leaving his face face more forward now open answering in named yard man. He hasn't really been no. He's he's Kinda like young over left. You know down really find anybody. Big always going in there and just Mall Shit Outta people so I got cold with a man Atlanta but in all seriousness Kovalyov needs to be in good shape in and not ninety be perfect but it needs to be careful in this five minutes McCall thanks for calling in machine gun back on board awards war September fourteenth time to go out to bouma Ranga Boxing West Dot Com your face honey you do it right by staying on top of knowing when it's time to stain your deck and your fence lows is here to help you do it right with the supplies. You need to know how to get it done. 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He was only see dumb his pull up with confirmed what was going on is so boy eights money Mr it does all the box invoice two thousand nineteen rookie year and Sergei Kovalev versus Anthony Yard. The only reason this fight is taking place because call duct Canelo. He dumped his the biggest payday he ducked the at the cascal in the number. One power for power fighter in the world can never was willing to move to weigh classes to fight call the land a rejected the offer a me shut off the Nello Alvarez Varez will it's a mate the biggest fights and boxing the pound for pound king one of the youngest fighters with the best resume in the history of boxing shoutouts today Jr in the U._K.. Kicking Shit with the tight wilder like our Donna Shit for real big boy see this you know these was at a at oxygen he was he was bidding he wanna be for the outside wilder me. He won big money this. You know so. I'm not seeing D._M._Z.. Over two thousand dollars spending money bro You not I mean I'm still waiting for somebody to match are super was with the L._d._c. where they got no money money greasy global bitch ass niggers. We're saying gee we heard a state we took. We got them what he didn't L._D._C.. We're cutting. Can we all get along man and we all just boxing fans. What's this divide going on? Man Deeds in the U._K.. Would up boomerang sub guys yeah. You know. This is brilliant fright. But what do we know about. Where is it Russia? Why I got stadium Emma have that too? It's August twenty four at the track tour arena in Celli Bland Ski Russia. The event is presented by our C.. C. Promotions main event them promotion promotions in Queensbury Promotions Frank Warren. I do not map a my fancy co nets watch that to be honest because boy <hes> we don't get your Vincent Russia but no I d kind of fancy yard for it but we've been in Russia. I'm not sure I'm not sure if that's if us to be blatantly honest at Raf there was a tournament and both of these guys are and why why do we always think Russia's GonNa rob somebody like wh what's the last major boxing event that they blatantly rob someone or or are we go rising them as a country because of their failure drug tests when the drug test failures in the Olympics something. I don't really get it not not not. It's not that it's just like gosh raise in the U._K.. Where we call it twelve men usually ties for soccer and like it's just what the Extra Energy Democrats? Let's give you and the Sun Special I think we saw against we've Puna verses is Hugh Fury. You know vape fill stadiums and they bring in. It's like they're in the fight. We've you know they can give you a you're extra something we yet. She need it now but actually believing that while those real energy person and when the people can give you that energy as well you know it's really hard to combat so it's just one of those things. I'm not trying to save. Let's get robbed at the nonsensical B.. E. Diesel anything. I'm just saying that people can give you extra energy and when the engines against was <hes> you know is going to be up against her so I do not defense defense go now. It's actually see that fight you go in no sir. I've been google the price of a flights of Russia never now what we know what Citizens Jones. I'll be honest with you. I've never had any interest in here is very cold and a lot of snow and asked even with despite like I is not GonNa do it for me like that's not the country I want to visit when I say I won't box into internationally it's maybe you can tell me what what other than the fight makes. If you want to go to Russia my what about you if you had it right like if money wasn't in an issue not an option but wasn't an issue <hes> or or or like let's say you already traveled to fight. That's your thing would would you make the extra for this. One is that it was like my our ability to do a year. I want mind cracking <hes> going on some of the the legendary monuments they have over Russia. I know people look at Russia should like <hes> they like had something to do with the election and all that kind of shift but then they I mean just to like get outside of the United States and experience some different customs. I wouldn't mind no saying going on Russia all mind traveling anywhere along as as long as it's worth the book and wait time on the plane and the fucking overlaid on that kind of shift so I don't have a problem with going to Russia Russia my opinion or maybe a beautiful place to is it always cold over to Russia or co sometime. I've never google the flight or anything like what you're doing Russia. Should I go to just don't do are we seeing Roy Jones for them. Big at Hanson Shit so there's always always Kodo or or tradition tradition but you think at him hats you think Russia so maybe they wanted to take it for picture purpose and I don't know I just don't really have an interest six one two four eight three six one two two four eight three. You have not press one. I don't know if you know but if you don't can't really jump on shoes six months to for eight or as Molly Molly just listening doing run run Mr Sims right then <hes> that being said <hes> final thoughts <hes> still don't know who I'm going to pick man. I think rewired some yard fights. I just don't know who I'm going to pick this one and it sucks because <hes> I wanna make some money on it. All boils down to Buddy Mike Money Mike what up man we out talk to him. I love the big fan you gotTa N._p._R.'s for a long time in the first half of seen him <hes> donate the Box Nation Review in Twenty fifteen or twenty six hundred somewhere around that time frame of following him watch among on the Canal Liam's car of down in Texas and what is progression and Torri every since I'm happy form gladdy getting shot Grad pay good too and ed you said he's ciders get get the money that debt that they can the most money that they could make no sense. I'm happy to Kovolev of not a south touch. No people seek over them. Both <hes> war word is one of the greatest side of our generation and agri- no saying got a big knockout book comes back really put it out on Alvarez Really <hes> showed him at different difficult eleven buddy mcgirt. It has been doing a great job Cohen. Let's see how the second five go <hes> but yeah pressure you know saying big clash over there with both those those countries on our part. Somebody told me from the Dome so I don't think I it was a two hour discrepancy. I don't think they should over there more than a week earlier. I I go. Maybe that Friday before either for the weekend and make sure I'm there to get arrested in a in get in my sleep ready for the week. Come with all the media obligations with the way with the press conference with the just everything that goes into big fight light this so year. I'm I'm hopefully they don't fuck around and make open because it's GonNa Megan is bigger but thank another chink might be finding jealous. Okay another bill others follow Neo Haji across nine hundred eleven or on twitter at growls through one to find an odd disowned bid against the the motion that it deserves you know like that. We get to see everything that is this fight fight Lee way in all that you know that it's covered properly. I believe that being said Geo agreements would who's here comes again lunch. 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Why can't Demetrius Andrade get a big fight?

SI Boxing with Chris Mannix

51:04 min | 11 months ago

Why can't Demetrius Andrade get a big fight?

"This is sports illustrated boxing podcast boxing. Boxing with sports illustrated's Kris maddox interviews analysis. And everything going on in boxing and now a man who I wish was called the Boston leader. It's sort of like getting punched in the face. Chris we'll come back till the episode of the SL boxing. Podcast glad you could join me this week because we have a terrific episode lined up for you. Sergio Mora the former junior middleweight. Champion disowned broadcaster. Good friend of the PODCAST. He is back. We're both down in Miami for the zone card headlined by Dimitrius. Androids middleweight title. Defense and Sergio and I cover all the topics in boxing right now from Andrew its inability to get a big fight. What's going on there? Why did your mom? Charlotte won't take him. We talk about seven farmer versus Joe Dias which is one of the big fights of this upcoming weekend at a whole bunch of other topics I hit on with Sergio. More a little bit later on to meet your android himself sits down with me and ask him directly what is going on. Why can't you get a significant fight? Despite the fact that you have a title and a lot of money behind you specifically get into the Charles. Stuff and why. That fight hasn't materialized despite the fact that everybody thinks that fight is the best for both stick around for all that on a terrific SL boxing pod quick housekeeping note. If you like this podcast very easy way can support it head over apple podcasts. Post a comment leave a rating. It's simple it's easy it's free. It takes seconds and it is the best way to make sure that we keep doing this podcast week after week. That's it all right onto my conversation with Sergio. Mora all right Sergio Morris. Back former junior middleweight. Champion dissolve broadcaster. Worst morning person. I've ever been a grown to know what is the matter with you like it eleven hours. Why eleven our sleep you know. Let me get my sleep. Go to bed earlier. I'm with you I can't I just. I'm not functioning. Last night was my fault. Yes it was tonight is going to be your fault. You went to a basketball game and then to which you didn't provide tickets. How can you be a sports illustrated senior writer and can get Boston Celtics? Tickets go on stub hub and get them for my colleagues. It's like you can never do the right thing. Ever get eleven hours. Does your wife even like you in the morning. Like how much sleep do you get on an average day? That's not bring up the white okay not to that right. We do have a lot to get into today down here in Miami for the design show headlined by Dimitrius ANDROID. I want to talk about Android for Sergio. He's on his fourth fight of this zone deal. He has a title recognized title around his waist. He's got a big checkbook behind him but he can't get a significant fight. He's fighting Luquillo this weekend. Luquillo earned the shot by beating Louis areas. That was a good win for him. But Andrew is gonNA come into this as massive favourite. Why why can't Dimitrius Android? Get a big fight. He has a self balkars. I mean he He's too good for his own. Good he has that Olympic pedigree and he's tall. He's dark and handsome like he says he does all the right things. He fights at a distance. He doesn't he doesn't he. Doesn't fight out character He's hard to hit. He hits hard enough to get respect. He has that cursed at every southpaw. Had if you look at guys like Winky Wright Paul Williams even go back to Marvin Hagler. There avoided for reason. What are they all? Have in common their cells gear. More Reagan Down South Pole Olympic pedigree. So it's just that South Parker said that if you can avoid a southpaw especially one. That fights like a southpaw and and maintain that discipline. Just avoid them at all costs. And that's exactly why they're avoiding injury. Yeah but I get all that and I get the fighters like say boots. Ennis won a couple of weeks ago on showtime I get why he's avoided at this point doesn't bring a lot of reward to the risk Virgil Ortiz. And other guy doesn't bring a lot of reward to the risk. All the things you're talking about are true but don't they go out the window when you have a reward at the end of it like you fight to meet your his android and you're gonNA get a chance to fight for a middleweight title and you're GonNa get paid a whole lot of money you know. Millions of dollars doesn't all that stuff become inconsequential when you have the opportunity to make a ton of money and fight for a title money changes things if you're at the if you're at the end of your career or if you're not used to making that kind of money but android is making a life changing money. You know what I'm talking about Andrew. I'm talking about the guys that won't fight like the guys that won't fight android while they're making huge money. They're they're making big money and they need to extend their career as long as possible so they already have their contracts if they can avoid the meteors Andrew matter. Let's go to the office. Forget I get. Why can upload US invite him? Canelo has other business this year and Andrey doesn't really do a lot for Cannella. He's GonNa make significant money anyway. Regardless of what happens Lofton we all know the score gluskin needs to get the Cannella when Dmitry Sandra represents an extremely tough fight before that the guy that I'm I don't understand it all is dramatic. I do not get. What Jamaal Charles? Oh is is doing right now. Because last year he fought two fights against Brandon Adams and Denis Hogan that basically nobody watched like it's the equivalent. Nobody wants them with the ratings that he got he has no obvious. Fight coming up with you know. Maybe Chris eubank in a fight that I don't think anybody outside the Charleston Eubank family cares about and then maybe he can get Darvin. Janko down the line. Why doesn't Jamaal Charles jump at the chance to fight to meet your his android for the same exact reason but this one has politics behind it with the with the promotional side with PBC and disown? But they need to fight those who need to fight. They're made for each other because Charles not a superstar either. He's not making that superstar Lofton Cannella money. He's not neither is android so I think they need each other and they're they're the right style matchup also because Charles. He fights southpaws pretty well. And he has a hard enough punch week and ended with or you can get the respect with one punch because you're gonNA need power to actually beat a guy like android and Charles has. That has that lettuces and he has a speed and he has a chip on his shoulder to. He brings all that to the total. So I I the step up with you. So you think Charles Ducking Android yes duck android. Android is the Boogeyman of the one. Sixty pound division. The only way Andrew's going to get a big fight as if he moves to sixty eight. Okay well I don't want to fight. Daniel Jacobs friend. But they're gonNA THEY'RE GONNA. I'm just GONNA boy them at all. I'm at this point. I'm ordering Charro versus Andrey t-shirts there's just like. There's no reason for those two guys not to fight you because android. If you win this fight against Keeler and it's not Charlotte it's probably be somebody like Liam Williams in a WHO cares type of fight? There Charles Fights Chris the other guy. That's annoying me is Durban Chanko. Dermot check goes out there. You talk to Bella. He's looking for an opponent for Durban. Janko nobody will fight urban checkable the android sitting there by Janko. He can have a shot at my title in three million bucks as well like. I hate seeing fighters like duck. Because I think there's always reasons not to fight but not fighting's meters. Andrew at this point is flat out ducking avoiding him at all costs. Is there another word for DUCKIE EUPHEMISM FOR DUCKING? Is there something else for missiles? Probably the wrong word. Is there something else other than because duckings really harsh word is a hardware? We're quitting is harsh words. A harsh word to retire. So what's another word for? I don't want to have a softer word. I asked you if Charles was ducking injured. You said yes. No another word not ducking whatever that other word is. That's what it is we can. We can rebound the tape you said. Yes that avoiding avoiding. I don't think I've done. I asked if he was ducking convincing. That's just like word but whatever it is. We want to avoid softballs at all costs. All right that's it well. We don't WANNA FIGHT THEM. Especially we fight like southpaws Abdo amateur pedigree. They're dangerous and they're confident you don't you stay away as long as possible. Look Cannella did with with With the latter he didn't he didn't fight him. He pushed him aside for as long as possible until the public demanded it. And then when the public demanded what Laura do you almost beat them in. Some people thought that he did reinventing history that I don't. The public was demanding. Lara CANOAS ONE. That said let Lars viewed at the top guy at one fifty four. I WANNA fight of golden boy. Didn't want to fight Komo's pushing against that heart like it didn't bring a lot to the table so I think I think may because the public was saying what can I wasn't up. The the the the hardcore purist boxing purists the people in the game they were bringing that up with Andrea no he's being avoided even by the writers. If you're the only one that sticks up for Andrew Tell the truth I really am only one beating the drum for this ridiculous miles away. But I don't I'm not a senior writer at duct android. You I you duck absolutely and I'll duck him. I don't circumvent and I ducked purposely absolutely duct Tantri. That's true one of the problems with putting android pound for pound is because he doesn't have a depth of top opponents of beets. I mean there are a lot of people out there and I've talked to Shawn Porter about this. I've talked to Terence Crawford about this. I've talked to Bowman Turns Crawford's trainer about this all these guys put android at or near the of the pound for pound list. But it's hard to put him there because you haven't been any on the list. I agree no. You can't be on the list unless you beat someone on the list in order to beat them in and look with all due respect. I'm praising Dimitrios Android just like everyone you just mentioned when you're fighting guys like Walter Contin Dong-kwan Archer and these type of fighters and magic celebrity. He's just beating the people they put in front of them right. But that's not enough so you need someone with a resume. Someone with a background someone. That's like Oh wow okay. That's what he does against this guy. That's when you actually a turn heads. Everyone's has even the haters. I'll legitimate criticism though of android that he doesn't go for knockouts enough. I mean I thought against Dhakhwa. He went for the knockout. Just wasn't there. The guy just kept like rising from the canvas four times and that fight but if you look at the celebrity fight that was tough because he had so lucky hurt in the first round. And then you heard. His father is trainer in the corner between the first and second rousing. That's not our fight like that. You were sitting there with that. I I love hearing that. Love is love hearing that because when you out of character which he was doing going for the knockout. That's when you get knocked out and then guess what your record becomes blemish. Lose your title all because you wanted to chase something. That's not you don't do that. Man Get the win. Get your head out of your ASS. Get the win. Let's move on. What are you talking about like you get? You can get a win. But when does winning by decision move the needle at all? When does beating did beating macek select for android? Do Anything for his career. In fact I think he lost momentum because of that he had this guy hurt in the first round that I couldn't see left hands coming. He was buckled up in the second round with the same attitude maybe get a stoppage and then you have some momentum to get a canal oh fight or or Charles download you are a critic and I respect your opinion. I am a boxer respect mine. He's pitching shutouts. You know how difficult it is to win every single round thirty six minutes of a fight and he does it in. He pitched shutouts. He doesn't let you hit him and he almost gets you out. He knocks down opponents. He knocked down contract. We knocked down so lucky. He can't take them out not that he doesn't have power just not in his character. I've problem was. He didn't try after that first round. He like maybe like if you go for it in the second round and selected a couple of shots all right back up and fight more of a defensive takes one shot it takes one shot and the next thing you know trying to please. Chris Mannix just ruined. His career gets a blemish on his career. Is Not me by trying to please you? Okay it's not me. He didn't get a big fight. He fought that fight June and fought nobody else. The rest of the year was not even mentioned in the conversation with Cannella work does not have Charlotte so clearly. It's not just me saying that really didn't do much for him he knocks him out. I think that does a lot for him. He knocks Luke keillor out. Would you admit that knocking Lou? Keillor does not more. I think he's going to stop. Okay would you like if he beats Luke Keillor twelve round decision? You're going to be like good job like if he goes one. Twenty-one wave it's a shootout yes this is no he's GonNa stop he needs to stop keillor. I agree with you. He's going to have to stop a fighter like Luquillo one because he has been stopped before and he's been stopped by who thom durant or something like that. Yeah so he's been stopped before one and two. He's not on his level. So this is. Let's get it clear. It's a stay busy fight for Dimitrios android. They throw a bone. This is a stay busy. Fight strictly for that and he needs to get that impressive win so yes for this one. He needs a knockout needs. He signed a four or five extension match them. Those need to be big final coming up and that Charles should be front and Center for both those guys all right. Let me talk to you about Conor McGregor and the box out there now chasing Conor McGregor McGregor you know came back and UFC. Two forty six one in spectacular style reestablished himself as a top. Ufc Guy and in the immediate aftermath. You had floyd mayweather on social media teasing a rematch against Conor McGregor for weeks before you had manny Pacquiao and his representative saying I wanNA fight Conor McGregor. You have bud Crawford and top rank saying we'll fight. Conor McGregor in boxing will move over to the to the UFC and a UFC match against Crawford. What do you make of all these huge boxing stars fighting are looking to fight? Ufc's biggest star. They're chasing the money. They're chasing the easy money because beating Conor McGregor in a boxing fight. It's easy money. I think any top ten contender can beat Conor McGregor. Have you seen him? Warm up with that arm wing thing. Can you imagine punching? He falls off balance. He can go the distance. He got tired halfway through the fight with mayweather. He doesn't have the legs to to to box thirty six minutes. You're not on your toes and the UFC. Your wrestling can take breaks. It's just apples and oranges two different sports. That's why every boxer including myself throw my name in the mix. I'm celebrating a fight that that man I mean. He's not a boxer. Stay over there. But he's popular. He's a he's a caricature he he's like a an Irish mayweather. Everyone wants to see him get his ass kicked but it's not going to happen because he's a really good. Mma fighter but he's not a good boxer. So yes everybody. Everybody wants to fight him for the money that easy money. So is there any boxing match that you'd want to see Gregor no zero? I LOOK? I don't disagree. I mean I think especially when it's on paper view. It's just an unbelievable money. Grab like I didn't go to Mayweather McGregor the first one. Because why would I waste a weekend night and August to go? Watch a fight. I know how it's GonNa end like that doesn't do anything for packy out might even more violently. Mcgregor's about Pacquiao fights the one thing I would say with I don't want I don't necessarily want to see this but if they made like a to fight thing with Crawford. Okay because you look down the pipe. There's nothing for Crawford in twenty twenty top. Rank has major problems making any kind of a fight of any kind of significance for Crawford is another one in the mix. And what did you have in common with? Every with android southpaw amateur pedigree. His his problem though is more politics than anything else and he won't fight Sean Poor. That's a big problem too. But if he can't I don't care if it's like if he can't get a fight against one of the top guys or even a top ten guy at welterweight. I can see Crawford going in fighting a to fight McGregor and getting something out of it because Crawford Crawford is not as big star as Pacquiao and mayweather you fight Conor McGregor and Connor McGregor. Never Fight Crawford ever. Are you kidding me for money? No you're nuts. No that's another one. Money doesn't solve everything. Well if it Kinda does or if it goes over to you see people who watch now man. Look no no no that. That's the wrong style match. Four horsemen wrong for anybody. Some of stupid. You find someone. If you're if you're conor McGregor you fight someone that people know but that's very limited not athletic not fast not powerful not a pound for pound often. Mcgregor should be nervous about fighting Crawford in any in any sense of the word taught all men look. I just stay away from Crawford. Don't don't even somehow that man would do something. Great Emanate Woods because he wrestled middle school like I played a musical instrument doesn't mean that can play at the Boston pops. You know when I met Terence Crawford at Staples Center you know. I went up to him. I go up too many boxes but I went up to him and I said hey man I got to say. It's amazing to see you fight. Man Watching you. Fight is watching a black Bruce Lee and he started laughing. I command amazing. What you do from southport Orthodox I go. It just comes natural. I love watching you fight and he just need granny smiling because I appreciate it. He's that special. So I I mentioned Bruce Lee thing because if he goes into anime somehow he can kick. If you've practiced three months in kicking that man we'll probably kick and it's not that I'm telling you practice to three months kicking and you can become a good. He's athletic I mean look at Bruce Lee he's the study Mohammed Ali tapes. He used to do the. Yeah a very good one. What do anything I was? I sat cage side was when James Toney went over to fight randy couture at that point like ten fifteen years ago and that was an embarrassment. Tony got in there and there was another one for his legs. And there's another one. There's two boxers I went into them and May I think it was It went well. Hell you never goes. Well they're usually a fighters at our past their prime when no legs. If you're going to go into the better have a spring in your step when you get your legs but doesn't it this sport. The crop couldn't learn in a matter of months. There's no way you could learn that no matter what I just said. He can learn how to kick. I didn't learn who just Jesse McGregor should stay away from him. Yeah you should literally getting a headache listening to you. Talk it circles here. Wash that that you should try being knee for once. Yes that's exactly what it's like but look I'm telling you right now. Up Mcgregor should stay away from Chris. They get easy money. Yes I think I think it's it would build crop profile thing if he fought McGregor and I think he'd win in boxing and lose badly but he's pro would built in two thousand twenty one and it's not going to happen probably not gonNA happen either. Real quick McGregor. Ufc does a great job of building stars from not from scratch but you know one star fades the next one comes in you had Rhonda Rousey Huge Star in UFC. When she you know separate from them yet McGregor come up. They just had two guys with like you know double digit losses or something on their resume. Madrazo fight for the with the baddest motherfucker belt or whatever that was. Yeah they just they. They did a great job of building stars Wise Boxing. It's such a problem at that and people would say it with you. I've seen a problem so you already. You're already rubbing me the wrong way by saying it's a problem. It's not a problem. It's no it's not. It's a different demographic you're hitting a different demographic in the USC you're hitting that that wrestling WWF wwe demographic what is it. It's young white and in boxing. It's it's it's Latino populated with the pay per view. It's older and older and White. So it's just a different demographic you're not gonNA you're trying to get pulled that crowd but no. I mean who's buying pay per view is going to be the young kids that want to watch. This and Conor McGregor is very popular and he took a page out of Mayweather's book He. He he He's doing something that most most fighters most fighters don't do any carries himself with Swaggie and he does what mayweather does but for a WWF MMA audience. Well there's a simple answer though that is often repeated in the UFC the best the best consistently like the top guys fight all the time whereas in boxing. We spend more time talking about guys. That's because they're all under one umbrella right. They're all under the umbrella you agree. That's the biggest problem in building stars like furious fighting wilder but one of the reasons. I think that's not going to do as well as they hope it doesn't pay per view is because neither one of those guys has fought a lot of top competition prior to that so middle America. Those guys are you know the post you might hardcore boxing fan. Sure do but that's a major problem in depth opponents at boxers. Top boxes don't have is is a problem. I agree with you. It happens occasionally. All right good fight this weekend. The best fighter card this weekend you have a different opinion but I think the farmer Joe Dias featherweight title fight ten far putting his hundred thirty pound title online against the back and forth with these two kind of building up for the last six months to a year with their social. Media's farmer has had kind of an android type run since he signed with his own title. He stayed busy but he hasn't had a marquee win. Joe Joe Dias. He lost his toughest fight to date against got Gary Russell. Now he's moving up two HUNDRED THIRTY POUNDS. Take on seven farmer. Let's start with WHO? This fight is most important like who needs a win in this Joe. Joe Okay Hands Down Hands. Down because he was supposed to be the next big thing for golden boy out of the Olympics and He came up short Gary Russell. Another Olympian. No no shame there but then the Rojo's fight. I believe it was where he didn't make weight that that's a sign of you're not respecting the sport and discipline and once that once you start losing titles or or he wasn't even a champion but once you once you start missing wait for a championship fight or losing your belt on the scales. That's when that's when your your character comes into place so jo Jo Needs A. He needs not only four for his future is is reputation but even even if he wants to become anything in this sport because he has the goods he has the backing. He has a promotion but he hasn't had that big win. He needs that against seven farmer. I just don't I don't think it's going to be very difficult for him to get it because farmers been he farmers the good for once and he's another softball would that people avoid but He's active so activity. What is it his fifth defense in in a little bit more than a year? That's incredible for a champion. So he's he's he's not only really gifted. He's athletic. He's experienced he's smart. He's confident he he's he's lethal in the South Pole stands but he's active. He's dangerous I. It's going to be very difficult to to beat a former in exciting fashion. If he beats them it's GonNa be a twelve round distance fighters so expected to go the distance. But I I just don't see him boxing farmer and if he can do of course he gets. The victory is going to be very difficult to know. I agree with with all that I think it is important for D Az to win. I think farmer though not only needs to win but it's got to be entertaining with his win and it's not going to happen entertaining. I look I hate to say that because we're calling the fight but neither of these fighters have proved in their in their career that they can be entertaining. They they they are very good brings a fight. That's why I think it could be. I think it could be Kinda. John Carroll was against seven farmer and we were giving why was always giving John Carroll a lot of credit in that fight. Because I like. That's how you beat a southpaw farmer. And a lot of people gave me heat including ten farmers saying that you know. I didn't give them enough credit. No Man Carol broke. Records of of the punches. He threw. That's what you need to do against a fighter. Like of seven former or against an android. Do you need a smother them needs suffocate them when punches? And if the credit if you're not going to get credit from the judges for doing that then you're not GonNa win against these guys and Joe Dias. He's not he's not a smothering punch like that he's A. He's a boxer punchy as good. Poppy has good experience if he can get combinations together then he can beat you. Farmers stand in front of him for him to get his punches off. No he won't but if armor wins in the same way he'd beat Fran Oise in the last fight. He's GonNa have a hard time getting another one like because I don't think that you know disown would want is going to want to keep putting on these types of Kevin farmer fights despite the fact that the title. I have a hard time seeing you know. Top rank put Jamel herring in with them or Shelton with him. I won twenty six guys. They have moving up. He's tried to get a tank Davis fight. Maybe that's something but if he goes out there and Kinda just out executes Joe Dias and makes it just boring the South Pole curse. He's going to happen and he's going to have do you agree. You'd have a hard time getting fights in the future doesn't fight win entertainingly. Yes yes. He doesn't need a knockout. I think ANDROID IS GONNA needs one in seventy to knock larmer needs to fight like he did against John Carol I think there's upside to him. Yes it's just like what? What are we doing here like? We don't need another one. Hundred and thirty pound. Titleholder is not worth the kind of money that's being invested in tech and farm. He's got he's got to come up big I I'm I'm fascinated that though. Because it is a significant fight between two guys near or at the top of their respective divisions and I think the winner in the ranking certainly will take a big step forward. Everyone's looking forward to this fight including look whether you're boxing aficionado or not. You're looking forward to these two guys. Because they're in their prime you got an Olympian. You gotTA fighter and farmer. Who's an active champion and not that many people know it's just the right time for them to fight. Yeah no question. You are big fan. Though of the opening bout on the main card remond value. Yes one hundred twenty two hundred twenty two pounds right. Yes yeah. It's interesting because this is the kind of role models the champion. He is a unified titleholder. Coming off one of the best of the year against Tj Donnie. And he's coming in. I think Sergio as an underdog in some of these against the guy that only has a very limited resume. What do you make of that? Put Him as an underdog. I the only reason I think. Ron is taken. This fight is one because he thinks he can beat with. Only what eight fights that? He's going to seven eight fights that he has but to the money you know. Roman hasn't made this kind of money is is the biggest purse of his career. So you know. He's not taking the easy. The easy fighting wants to he wants the big money now and I think that's the biggest person his career I can pretty much say it is. Yeah I have to check on that check check on this but I'm pretty sure it's the biggest I don't see him. Yeah but it doesn't matter even more for for. That was a bigger flight. I can pretty much guarantee he's making more for this. That's the only reason I can see him fighting. Knock modality of. Why would he fight this? This Olympian Southpaw. Another southpaw. Why I do not have a southpaw phobia. Mannix I just did they. Give me the creeps especially if there Olympia INS and knock. Molly is both any strong? And he's fast and he's athletic and he's Cagey and and any fights compact and he's a scary fighter wide. You just picked up these two beautiful belt that you worked all your life or why won't you? You know take calculated risks. This is a huge risk. And I just think medallion. I'm not a sports book but I put them as a favor to which makes me wonder why he's taking this fight because money. Well money money on hold on. There's money in it but there'd be equal if not more money in a rematch. With Donny. They'd be equal. If not more money in several other fights all he'd have to do to get out of this fight is basically dropped one of his belts he could drop the WB belt. He could still keep the IBM belt. He'd still be a world champion he could go on to fight less less challenging and less soundbites with more of an upside than what he's finding this one. This is just a big river. I I'll have to check how much money's actually getting off this might but unless it's absurd amount of my absurd but it's it's definitely the biggest of the open the opening fight on a four. Fight telecast this is a unified champion opening fighting a four or five telecasts in a fight that he's an underdog guest a complete a no. You don't see that I can pretty much guess because the money I don't see any other reason it's it's pretty crazy for me too. I watched this man. I mean I called his fight. I think he's very impressive. He's a pound for pound or I think and and a unified champion. And if all you like to get to this position why are you gonNA fight a guy like me? It just doesn't make sense unless you're getting paid the big bucks so I mean it. It has a potential to be a great fight for sure and if Roman lose I if you'll think back I mean when despite was I made one of the first things that came to mind was celtics decision to go back to one forty seven and defend his title against Earl Spencer. You didn't have to do that. Is coming off a fight against Google off and he could have stayed said. Look I'm going to go to fifty four. I don't want to fight this young lion that not a lot of people know about and it's just basically coming to the UK to kind of use my name to make some money and win a belt. I think Would have been better off in his career. Sergio if he had just passed on the belt because he broke his face again in that fight. I mean that was that was a career damaging fight for that was. That's why matchmaking his key as a fighter you have to pick the right fight because one fight can damage you that much. You only have a certain. A fighter only has a certain amount of fights in them. You know we have mileage and and and and I just think that was wrong fight I mean colosseum was a huge that was just a mistake and even polly. Manasi touched on it. You know th th the weights exist for a reason. That wasn't a fair fight. The Gulf can fight aerospace was a fair fight but by that time he was damaged damaged already or an intern. Shrink himself back down to awake last exactly and and that that's never a good thing. Let me finish with what we saw. Last weekend Danny Garcia one. Whatever I we you know Garcia. That was kind of just a throwaway sort of fight for him. I was more just to see what jared heard. Look like you know. In his first fight. Since losing his titles Jay Rock Williams. He made the decision to change trains going away from his longtime trainer signing on with cake aroma who's a terrific trainer out of the amateur ranks. There's a lot of good work with the USA. Boxing folks I your thoughts on herds performance and I my thoughts on the trainers how much I dislike. Trainer CHANGES YOU. Besley and especially when it happens when a fighter. I loses every single. That's a sign of hate. Say this word mental weakness by a fighter where you have to blame somebody for your first loss in your career. When it's that man that trainer that got you to the Promised Land. Gotcha the world title. Gotcha the big money. Got You in front of everything you've ever dreamed of. And then the first hiccup you have professional you fire the man that help you get there. That's a that's A. That's a flaw in character but heard I really respect him? I like him personally. I think he's great for the sport. He has charisma. But he's not a boxer the only success he had in his fight he finally started hurt him when he finally became who he was. And the pressure fighter going inside getting hit but that's will make he's like Paul Williams. That's exactly what he is. He's in order to be effective in order to be a aggressive and effective aggressive. Is He needs to get hit. He can't be a defensive guy and say at the at the end of Jab and uses the advantages. It's just not his style. He's nine and be successful. He doesn't have the head movement the footwork and the defense to do that. He's an aggressive active volume punch. And that's how we get the stoppages and that's how he finally was successful. In his last watching that fight it was it felt like a sparring session it felt it was a sparring session and it was a small a smaller sparring partner as well. Yeah he's a lot. Santana showed heart going in there banging with them a little bit but I just I couldn't figure out. Is this going to be the way jarod hurt fights for the rest of his career? Because I don't think it's going to be all that effect I agree with you. I think the way he fought you know the fights prior to this Arizona Law and that was one of the was that the fight of the year or one of the fights the year in two thousand eighteen. I fought on the UNDERCARD. What two thousand eighteen. Yeah that was my last week. I fought on that occurred online. I just interject myself in my career. One time this podcast just to remember. Call it. Yes I thought on that undercard. And that was the fight of your. Yeah I mean great fight. And that's like bad. Hurt him like that. Guy's a star like that guy is a potential star in the making and I seeing him fight. That way like can't change his stripes. He can't change his stripes cake. Romo Watson to change him and he'll be able to do it for half a fight but he's not GonNa do it for twelve rounds. It's GonNa Happen. I tweeted Jay Z line. And that's exactly what what jared hurt. Is You do what you got. You got you there. You know you are who you are before you got before you got here. So he's not going to change. You can try to adapt to a new game. Plan stick to the strategy but ultimately character wins and his character is aggression. Yeah well temperament win that. That's the word I'm looking for. His temperament needs to come out. I think to peace faced with somebody that is at a higher level and Santana. You're going to see kind of the old jared comeback because it's one thing to try different things on an opponent that can't hurt you. It's another thing when there's a guy in there that's close to or equal of your talent you down to your opponents level definitely. I mean you need. You need that screws up though like if you're trying to change a guy in the way that K. Looks like he's trying to change him kind of in mid career. That doesn't work off. Like I'll use an example. I remember when Miguel cotto jumped over to Emanuel steward that didn't work like Emanuel Steward tried to incorporate some of his teachings intimate Koto Miguel was already such a formed fighter that it just didn't work. They broke up after a couple of fights. Beguel went to Freddie Roach afraid. He's like Miguel. You're going to do what you do. I'm just going to be kind of a strategy for you. Maybe tweak a couple of things this seems like watching jared heard. It seems like we're seeing almost attempt at a reinvention of what kind of fire is I don't know that's that's good for him. It not this if he was twenty one or twenty two maybe but at this stage of his career when he's been as successful as he has aged twenty nine. I don't I don't see it working out if he if he tries to fight this against top level guys. I think he's trying to extend his career. I think he's trying to say so. Mileage in the tank because all his fights have been very physical. And you'RE NOT GONNA. You're not going to last very long even if you win fights and not physical so if he can actually just be defensive for half fight and fight the later the second half of the fight you know normal physical self that right there could save them some time and and some some physical strain. I guess but I don't see him doing it. For for the entire fight in boxing guys and being slick and using his advantages. I don't think I do like about the division is that you have the potential to have like eighteen months where the great fights. Jason Rosario bursting onto the scene and knocking out Jay Rock Williams and hurts back at one fifty. How enough to see Rosary on heard because there are two huge junior middleweight? Yeah yeah that was back when I want see McGee and that would be. That will be a great fight. I think they'll do a rematch with Jay Rock. Maybe heard fights Charles. Oh that's a big fight Tony Harrison. Getting back into the mix. I can see picture come over to because it's not a lot for him on the golden boy side of the aisle at. He's not such a huge draw that they want to keep him there so eventually he might join the mixed. It'd be a lot of fun at one hundred fifty four pounds Before we go is a boxing podcast but someone that grew up in L. A. Round the same age as Kobe Bryant. I know that strongly affected you his passing just this past week. Just give me your thoughts on some of the grew up in the area what Kobe meant and how that affected you well. I'm glad that I was able to use. Drop on on your interview with With Ryan Ruko earlier because I think he put it in perfect words. I mean worth. I couldn't even think of how much he meant and Rubio's a New Yorker I mean I'm from L. A. Born and raised I mean he he stayed loyal to La for twenty years which is a rarity in any sport so it showed his loyalty. I mean Kobe. Bryant's work ethic his his mentality I mean a lot of a lot of Mexican Mexican Americans Latinos. I mean there's not that many Latinos in basketball well. We related to Kobe. Brian we really did we with a passion and I was there for the Laker parades and and it was majority young Latino Kids and looking up to this this This star is just way carried. Himself is is is very. I mean my brother my brother Peter a younger brother. He's as tough as they may come in and he every time he sees Kobe and they're talking about him he tears up and watching. My brother Thira makes me tear up and I'm about to run out so I just rather stopped all right. Well we'll send a no it's Some that's felt across sports not just boxing basketball but football everywhere. He saw mainstream news coverage. So thank you for putting that perspective when we come back my conversation Dimitrius Andrea Art. So we talk about physical fitness a lot. But there's another side to the game that's just as important. 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Better get started at Com dot com slash sports forty that's COM DOT com slash. Sports forty are two meters android. Is here middleweight champion. He's got to fight this Thursday against Luquillo defending his title as it looks to bigger fights into twenty twenty. What's up to matrix during salary feeling about this fight? I know it's not what you wanted. You wanted a bigger fight but here you are getting ready to defend your belt against Luquillo. Then today Mac of find another to do in climbing a the people's you know skin if you like no you don't and if you don't know now you know so that's why now is. The most important thing is to get everybody to see that. The media's Andrea is being active. He's out here. Vocal about fighting is and WANNA do it. Any which way when you won your title. Did you think it was going to immediately? Open the door for bigger fights. Yes for sure you know. I mean Machu Mattie Hind. They wanted me to have to tune up. Fights or mentioned having the tuna fight can coming offline. Oh two months maybe less to show. Kimiko can't go back. Go back that far right now. I was. I've been doing this for a long time. Billie Joe no problem. Those go sma habit was the was the we we need to know for me. They are you the habit I don't at this time and I'm not going to waste any more time. I know where you've got to get there so just go straight to the goat. How would you describe your two thousand? Nineteen defending your belt. A couple of times. You didn't get that big fight you've been chasing. How would you describe what it was It was good great year. Actually you know on everything we we did to turn everything around to be where it's at right now was because of last year Renault. Guibert of Reno. Some lucent made some good decisions from past decisions in now here Super Bowl weekend. Pungent off what are some of those good decisions those loose ends that you're talking about You know just stub things. I can't talk about you know unfortunately but just know like I'm here. The team is good and everybody around me is doing everything to make better and you know match them doing a great job as far as you know moving me and put me in the cities in the states. That need to be so people can see great box. You signed a four fight extension with match room last week. Why did you decide to continue this relationship with match room? With any hunt. Dwells is it for me to go as far as like that makes lucrative sense and make sense as far as getting fights and know what type of again you know. Who's going to change my life when I step into the ring versus. Migo on showtime top rank. What are you going to do and how much money they're going to put up for me to just fight L'Aquila's if that's the case. So I mean I think disown does have a great deal of interest in me being here especially with the world title match of course as well. Because they don't want to lose a guy that has a built and bring it over to you know showtime in the child and now is just you know? It's not as many people over at a showtime in the military division showtime which got the Sixty Eight. That's really high up there but You know right now. I think the sixty and sixty in his own is still doing it. Because I get you know still cross the international market when you talk about Billy Jo scientists You know Mongia and stuff like that versus you. Know who else is over there you've been avoided fighting for a long time but now not only have a world title but you have the money behind you. Eddie hearn behind you the reward for you is worth the risk. Why do you think guys are still avoiding? You mean seems like my last pony. Thought that they're willing to get in there. Then the day in the most popular guy out there and play in the Hog. You this guy out there saying you know guide as in the APLOMB beneath the they not at my level. But they're in their prime. They're hungry they're trying to make it happen. You know And so therefore I'm not fighting rocky filled in and in Lima Smith. Say at this point right now. I'm fighting leukemia tough gate. You know I don't you know it's tough game. He beat Lewis Areas Water. Tough Kid Art. Those tough kid. Who for on Billy Joe Saunders gave him how and So lucky gave Jacobs how for twelve rount in. Look what I did in that case but at the end of the day those those guys that I mentioned WanNa continue and take the chances in the wrist to become a world champion. So they're going to say yes before Cannella because here they have just signed a great deal in to China to protect investment. I believe wet end of the day is like you sign for something already. You losing a fight. Dmitri's who never heard you because you can do if you're that good and you're that type of person has that following behind you're still going to be able to go and fight somebody else can no loss against Floyd Mayweather. You still doing his thing you know. I mean so I don't see where is the problem is a win win regardless when Lewis a Georgia win win for everybody but Charles Fight. Why do you think fight hasn't happened? Could control myself in what I can lay on the table for what I can do being here with zone. You know in doing the deals matchroom now. Yeah he could have wet. We're showtime at the end of the day making that fight to go over the assignment showtime for you know maybe modify Dale just for one person didn't really make sense when that person child brothers however they got their promotional company. They can come here for one fight and if in a and then what? I'm hearing is this Eddie or zone is willing to give him a multi fight deal on top of that because they claim they own Omotoso. I mean the in court is point. So you could've gone over to showtime I mean. That was the only the only reason to actually go over here. That's it is to get that fight. But I think if they I want to fight this this reason for me to have to go over there for that for you when they say they have the opportunity and they can come over here. But that being said if showtime gives me that offer or gives me that type of offer I'm allowed to go over there and go make that happen and still come back to his own so is for us to go and he said you absolutely can go over to showtime or Fox if they bring that kind of might say so if that's what they weren't willing to do then let's do it so I'm just saying back doing I'm doing you know Capitalizing on these moments here super bowl weekend getting the fans behind me and let them understand that. Like the Canal de but Dmitri Style speaking of style. Is this the kind of fighter you can look good against Keillor? You had a good win over Lewis areas. But you're going to be on a totally different level than anybody who's used to going in and take one round at a time said you know I mean I don't know until I get in the ring with him. You know. Testing scene was capabilities are and what they're not in what? I'm going to be looking forward to hit him with some some hot shots. I am looking at it. Though you know vicious shots like I always always am and Just put on the show man you know I mean people always say now. You know somebody not knock. I was not cool. It was cool out early but Chris Jab in your face onate in picking somebody pie and beat them down. They remember that they're going to remember that. The person the fighter Luquillo is gonNA remember that beaten. You'll remember like I did. Do you think is more to gain though with a big knockout than beating up a guy for twelve rounds? I mean that Guida remembers as always say Dmitri? It's an injury is great. He's always gonNA make. He's going to be like that guy he's GonNa always continue to say. Yeah for Dmitri. He's a bad boy. Bad boy now guy hit with a lucky shot. You know You know he caught me. Slipping caught me cold. You know now. He beat me down and he got he got it. Can you look good and really be impressive? In a fight that goes the distance. Yeah did that play times again. Brian Rose against I did. I did against Willie Nelson. He no doubt I didn't get founded is on but how's the to-to-to fight me event as US Celeski. He's crafty guy. Go back wars to fight. He's crafty guy he was. He was always moving. He was in the stationary target. Who So lucky. That was the one I thought that you could have finished him. And it would've been a big deal if you finish. That was after that first round a lot of people wanted to knock out. Yeah but you know. He's still crafty. Only I know that you don't I know if a guy is really hurt or not versus somebody else. Because I'm in new somebody I can feel it. I can see I can see going on on the outside and might look one way by an inside. You know there's a lot of guys that got put down and got back up and I'm running after him and then next thing you know I'm put down happened with social more. Dan Jacobs Andrea Bertone. What he's it's not happening with Dimitris. Injury. So I'm going to work the way in master it and if I feel I can get them about it. Get him about is just the crappy enough and have the experience survive to making one sixty. Still Good for you. Oh yeah me I mean. Cheese pizzas donuts off from hopefuls cheese pizzas and donuts at whole foods vegan style. It's definitely not a building into a more. Do you feel more. Like a middleweight. Now this is your fourth straight fight at that way but yeah it was laid off Ho. Yeah actually it was. My last one. I think was how told were and I for him in October. That was my year layoff and so I did. I did what I can to build into it in on but you actually have to fight taxi. Really get the feel of things and take time and I think the three five Senate had. I'm definitely signed a one sixty. When you sign the deal with Eddie. What did he tell you? But what kind of fights he can get. You know we just put names and numbers and if something doesn't happen and you know something you think Charlotte Waiting I can't get too much into you my contract but what does that tell you about? Charlotte? Now I haven't personally talked to him about it. You know I mean if he if it happens in Israel result comes to be what is supposed to be then mono I mean he has said it. He's daylight one minute Patriots Dimitrius. Oh He's not worthy. He's not willing to fight. And then next if I have to fight Dmitri. It's to get away with this guy or if you could be so. I mean they don't know what they WANNA do. Do you like that fight. I mean either one of them either one. Just both of them be blockbusters to my our like engagement with each other conflict. You know what I'm saying. Either one of them you know. I both of them. Law Lord Tug. Lash it back in the days in Ohio. He beat me up in other stuff. You know I mean that's one fifty four Javard. He had come. He got come up to one sixty eventually. You know so I mean I mean. I'm here well to meet you. Think a lot of people want to see you in big fights in two thousand twenty test yourself against the best. Good luck on Saturday and hope you get those big fights at some point this year for sure man in they keep me active and keep flame is going to be more trouble for them. 'cause man I'm coming just coming into my own more everytime getting into rain so thank you.

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Tyson Fury Wont Be at Wilder FightFury's Trainer To Be Ringside To Scout Deontay Wilder

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Stick it out. I think we gotta deal with this Friday. I don't think he's talking about the flyers. Are you ready the Piat we in the heat we live in we train year dot com very good morning and welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another glorious addition of the box and voice radio it is fight week beyond wilder Luis Ortiz. The rematch is going down. Saturday night. Live on pay per view foxsports. What's eighty bucks? I haven't bought this year. Actually buy right now swimmer. Turn on cable and by after introduced my co host. But what are we gonNA talk about. We hit a discuss discuss. The possibility of the other rematch did his lingering or looming four February twenty third. Something like that. That will happen fury out here doing a lot raising the profile you know multiple different media functions but the location that he should be at he will not. He is not showing up to the deontay wilder Luis Ortiz fight. Now it's rumor did he. And Wilder should be fighting in Vegas. It makes all the sense for fury three to be here and get a firsthand. Look at what is the anti while the post the fury while defy but he is opting out of that and instead Ben Davidson has already landed in Las Vegas. He is in town. Our very own Daniel Alvarez had a long conversation with him and he'll be at the five ringside to Scout Deontay while so. This is what we're going to be discussing. You're interested did you know the number to call in one four to five five six nine fifty to forty one press one once voice your opinion right here on the voice of the people hotline. Don't don't forget if you're just joining the livestream hit that thumbs up right now. It helps the visibility to show. It helps us grow. It gets this show in the eyes of more boxing fans I and then we'll have been Davis on this show who's been duck and for some time now. I've been talking to a lot on instagram. The man is just simply too busy for podcasts interview. But he'll give us a camera interview so strange but if you help with the growth of the show these things will be so much easier and we are going to have a trainer on today show. His name is Steven Edwards. He is the trainer of Unified Julian Williams. Who is the I? B Joe Champion the WB H champion. And I believe the IB F champion. Shout Julian Williams and thank you to his trainer Steven Stephen Edwards who will come on the show at nine thirty a. m.. So yeah we're GONNA talk some boxing not only with you and you know oh my co host but also with Stephen Edwards world renowned trainer of the champion also trains Chiron Davis by the way but without further Ado Indiana gross. The bus speak it. Believe receivers speaker believe receive speaking believer receive Casey at Nova speaking. uh-huh window come to handed bans older. Seco he shot to stand over. Read one on look win the building. Let let me check my instagram. I might be at a Yoyo Yoyo. Good Morning Good Morning. Good morning to everybody. What does T. V. Universe Buck with another one? Yeah it's Wednesday night. A fight getting closer and closer. I cannot wait to thirty tonight but before it got a little news. Rumors were reports are that he won't be in attendance of the Wild Ortiz fight and Agree with that being said no in things like that but I don't know man. Fairy does does march to the beat up his on drums. Oh knows you might show up just to rip and surprised everybody but yet man Davidson going to be scouting water for the fight light wider Better Watch all he can understand so I like the Grand Irabu was good. Nice little turn out Water arrive in style. You know what I'm saying. Nice tonight in person but Emma fucking look so damn clean on the On the wait wait wait he he he got the Rolls Royce. Struck out home So he fluid out. Let me read you. The country's right quick nearby to catch trout where he got it he got shipped out. That's that's that that's I like that. And let me tell you something for those have ever thought about. It's not even that expensive is only like eight hundred dollars for a car carrier in enemy so you can catch your flight and let that what do drive your shit over there but not literally drive it in the car car. Carry it over in a car in an eighteen wheeler like no and Joshua from New Orleans and myself of US driving big supermax you know and by the time you land you go have lunch check in Bom. Your car is there. That's amazing that's what I'm talking about. That's that's making a grand arrival. You know obviously you could rent it something. You could have rented something extravagant. But his Rolls Royce truck really early fits his outfit and his girls outfit. They came in looking fabulous. I'm just keep a G and I wanted to make the comparison to to McGregor and Anthony Joshua because you know he comes in with the lion for Co no-shirt you know roaring as he always does at the face off the bomb squad and everywhere he walks and there's not many guys that could pull this off we gave tons of credits McGregor for being able to do it. But I'm GONNA Salute Wilder. He pulled this shit off. You know what I mean He. Sometimes he's a little bit out there with his fashion. But I liked everything from the fucking Brown. Louis Buttons Buttons to the to the to the to the match coat with defer. The girlfriend had the match in a tie as well. She showing just enough art show her tattoo. I mean it was. They really planned this and I think that they made a splash. Luis Ortiz on the other end. He's more in fight mode. Wilder has to play the part. Luis looks to me. Like I'm here for this scrat- that's like the twist in his hair. You know he ain't go. Oh sit down at a salon and get it. That's him sitting there twists in the thinking of the fight. You don't look done. I mean I don't know I don't know are those twist done. Did he twisted himself on airplane. I don't know but he's in. The more traditional fighter attire with the whole team is wearing wearing sweatsuits shot out the fashion over really getting behind. PBC and their fighters we we've been seeing them sponsor PBC fighters there's more and more if not for every fight now so Yemen. I I feel like wilder made the grand arrival will but I do WanNa get Daniel on the line. Whenever he's free he's just you know he's he's about to ship off so you know definitely keep them in your prayers as he's is going to go defend the country and being Afghanistan for another tour so we will lose our Las Vegas coverage for some time and We want to send our prayers and wishes is too but definitely WanNa get him on the show to talk a little bit of Ben Davidson and talk a little bit of the atmosphere. Might because I'm excited but I'm awhile vowed defend. I just don't feel the buzz. I honestly you know U K is GonNa love this next statement but my girl actually like. Where's wilder been because I was listening to Stephen a Smith this morning while I prepare for the show and he had wildfire on yesterday. And that has about twenty two thousand views. And you know she's like wow. I just heard that he's got forty. Something fights where's he been and I'm like that's the big problem right like the lack of promotion. The promotion is now now being pushed onto wilder and it was something that should have been done so he could have been as big as he is because he's kind kind of larger than life like figure again not everybody can walk into. MGM GRAND WITH NO SHIRT ON bread like. It's a certain kind of person that can pull that off without looking crazy. And Him and his girl did a great job coming in together the The the the complimented each other with their outfits and from what I hear from Daniel. WHO's not answering Cering now? He's probably just getting out because he's working night shifts from what I hear from him. They transformed the entire. Are Your MGM Grand Lobby. Now remember you and I were there in. Normally they have that that ring so they took all that on they put a backdrop covering the check ins. And it was like this big thing but Again Rather Daniel tell you but I'm hearing that it's more all like I don't know I think Kanalelo cove left kind of buzz. Okay sounds like a good but real quick go back to my intro Wilder said I guess I didn't get the memo so I pulled open my own shit. You know what I'm saying. So the bums go. I think Despite I think people are talking about my place books of the People Kinda acts the WHO haven't fight parties are movie theaters showing this my so Pay More and more people are are starting to get by on a bums. Quite everything Fox is doing a good job at promoting the event of the week of but Far as been Davidson things like AH goes. I think it's good a look for him. To Scott Wilder saying can not learn much about anyone fighter and far the MGM. Go than me. I did see them in the lobby and I did notice the big up. The the biggest reminds I knew where they at now by them taking out the rain and them doing all that kind of stuff and it makes it seem like they are really put an end to try to make this a A attractive. A A for people who may be doesn't necessarily watch boxing. Sandy out there were Like you said the grand arrival was was was awesome. And I'm I'm getting more and more excited as the as the As the day draws near and I'm starting to see a lot latte more people will start to say they feel like Ortiz has a better chance of This upset which I don't know where they're getting this from from the previous couple fight right but maybe with the influence of other way maybe With all the hallmark. You've been doing a good point. Maybe Fox BBC Chinese their Their mind and and it reminded them of what happened in that. First light so good to see that people are taking this A little bit more seriously in some people are even going for king. WHO's that she's I got like three or four people going for King and somebody that made a bit that wow to do like silent thousand pay per view buys so it's a lot of different you gotta Bet that while those five hundred thousand yes they he does so you think he does? I don't think argued that he doesn't I'm not saying I don't think it. Does I think the possibility mommy I'm thinking with the influence of Fox maybe can reach the three. ADP and maybe four hundred thousand mark and but somebody else thinks he can get down so they have a bet going on. was you had to play that. Okay also also someone made a bet like with a betting site that they do five hundred thousand or this is a bet straight Straight bet you so you bet against the honey now now. Now I'm that bid per se gets the fire on it. I know of somebody who's better to get the five hundred so someone thinks is not not gonNA happen. Yes somebody thinks it's not gonNA happen. I mean fondness allotment. Pack Cowan Thurman got six hundred. And that's like Thurman Talk Impact Known Tone. You've got Louis Ortiz. I had not saying Shit Man. You know like he could have learned a few words for the for the for the promotion of the fight man. He could learned a few words but no five hundred man ice dude I want. I want to millie in. Oh but Is he going to get it. y'All speaking to Millie. When's the last time you seen Tyson fury social media that you noticed it not and be honest with you? But Tyson fury two point three Fowler was two point three minutes followers on instagram. I I don't remember that two point three era. I don't like don't wait for Black Friday. Get to old navy. Maybe today the gifts they want most incredible fifty percent off. That's right get fifty percent off all jeans. Fifty percent off all sweaters fifty percent of all outerwear today gene started just fifteen bucks for adults ten bucks for kids. Everyone's favorite styles are on sale today. So don't wait. Hurry in for fifty percents off all jeans sweaters and outerwear at Old Baby Old David Dot Com and soon valid eleven twenty to eleven twenty six excludes in store clearance gift of a week. Buckle up because metro is is bringing you. The best deal in wireless switched to Metro and get your choice of two awesome free phones from top brands like Samsung and L. G. with huge HD screens tons of memory for all your pictures and videos so hurry into metro and get your awesome free phones. Only at Metro plus sales tax activation fee requires eligible number not currently active on T. mobile network active on Metro and past ninety days limit. Four per account or household restrictions apply see store for details and terms and conditions. I don't remember and I'm not saying this. Fake obviously obviously now. Because I'm bringing it up. People are going to insinuate that but I'm not I'm just saying like I haven't checked his profile to see the numbers and so long did I don't even remember six hundred thousand. That's a big but while does right there too so I guess they equally built nope themselves. I was age age as to be like what I like a six right. He's probably use probably grown since then at one point to own a on twitter to oh he grew from a growing twit his normally the lowest one million both so he's been like Manta. WWE and the whole. Oh you have been his wife to interview what she was talking about a book. Let me interrupt. Looks like we got Mr Alvarez Seca live in Vegas talk to US Good Morning Champ extra good morning for you. All the way in Vegas is very early but but let us know what was the atmosphere. Like for the grant arrivals good morning. Good Morning We're honestly is he pretty typical for a non mayweather fight arrival in Vegas Like I said yesterday I would say pretty fucking comparable to Cannella Coppola for their final liable. Let me let me let me let me let me ask you to elaborate library because I get the sense that when you say it's comparable Cannella Cova lab. You mean that in a negative way right because Cannella Kovolev didn't feel like annul jakup's cups or Jibril g I thought that was pretty on par with Cannella Jacobs as far as the atmosphere with the fans Definitely not triple g but I mean you're still talking about Cannella the biggest household so named than is currently active in boxing. Right now so when you talk about the heavyweight champ of the world and A fighter cannot allow you know that is no disrespect. Suspect that is you know I was. I was honestly a bit surprised to see any fast. Come Out for wilder And again no disrespect respect. I don't say that in a negative man but it kind of just showed me how his profile has grown in the lack of months right so The atmosphere it was good There was there was less media in town For the first day of the week versus like I said can Kovolev which was just three weeks ago but I do expect. That's a pick up you know. I saw radio road. Being setup got dozens of stations coming out what I saw So the atmosphere was a little bit better than I expected it for the first week of like I said we had a lot of fans he then he even had fans coming from the UK. In Ben Davidson Davidson was duct off in the back of the lobby Overseeing the grand into rivals that both Ortiz and wider made yesterday dope dope. So so you're saying that there was a lot the fans there yet. I just thought that I don't know I get the feeling that it's not a big fight week because like even the grant arrival. I mean we caught doing like eight hundred. Eighteen live viewers. I think that's crazy low. Well you know something like that. You gotta realize that it's like a two hour event you saying I think they've started at light not only that but it was also also be streamed live on television Fox sports too. Okay so yeah I was. I was aware of that But I don't know man If you WANNA bring those numbers up you know we were just talking about the crazy numbers at the fight. Yeah I'm saying so it's a Tuesday where people are at work Or underway traveling traveling home. So you know. It's it's one of those weird times to where you know I don't know but you know it's also the first day of the week where things are a lot. You know on a much smaller scale. I'm going to be honest with you. It wasn't it wasn't nowhere near But even for like Mayweather McGregor. I'm going to put it to you like this mayweather Burto had a bigger fight week than mayweather. McGregor up until the way layin. Like the fighter arrivals I remember busy mayweather Verte was a way bigger crowds in May whether McGregor you know until the way and it seemed like all the Irish fast astle when Thursday night Friday morning whatever so I don't really put too much weight on it. I really go. Based off the way in the way in will be in the arena. We know the same arena that can cope loves and was that I was very vocal for canola. Coppola saying there was a very disappointing underwhelming Way In compared it's a previous Canola Williams that being said I'll be able to Kinda gauge. You know what the atmosphere was like from three weeks ago. This Friday you know at the way in and also compared to the wild or fury way because we were there for that as well right so I think by then you kind of know. What's who expect for that fight week? I mean if you don't even have all your media members in on Tuesday for the first day of fight weeks I don't expect to have you know all your fans in. I'm you're talking six days in Vegas. That's not cheap so by Friday we should know what the fight we you know. Really what the atmosphere tale stacked right. That number is Do you expect like for like the tendon. I know you ain't an expert but you you you frequent a lot of fights and you do know about buzz. We're kind of Attendance do you think that water in a Ortiz habit. Mg You you know I expected to be similar to what we saw or canal. Low KKOB love right. You know. Twelve thirteen thousand which those are those are really good numbers. I mean Mayweather Burto did about twelve and a half thirteen that didn't sell out the MGM Grand Garden Arena So I expect a similar numbers to that. I was I was just talking to US earlier and I was telling him how they had to drop ticket prices. I think that at the ticket prices are a little aggressive And for that reason you know they drop ticket prices. So I expected expected a big walkup crowd Revolting Littlejohn about billions promotion. CEO was also in town and he was saying how He was in China. Come until he saw the large. You know the the The the ticket price drop because I guess they only a certain amount of what have you but you know I got friends that now because of the the the price drop All right now with tending to fight purchase tickets to the fight and you gotta understand even after the price drop Las Vegas fight. Tickets are way more expensive expensive than In other cities for example the cheapest ticket after the price drop after fees and everything is a hundred twenty seven. I had friends. I want to spend quarter in Los Angeles. They're paid about one hundred business missile for lower level. So you know you were able to get tickets to sense. Quarter her like fifty bucks. You saying so tickets in Vegas are always more expensive and keep in mind. You're talking about the Saturday before Thanksgiving the Saturday before Black Friday so be cognizant that as well so I think uh-huh Nice Little Walker I guess they'd comparable to you know cross comparable to Kanalelo crowds comparable to May was a borough twelve thirteen thousand in an arena that sits sixteen thousand and really quick guys Like I said given that it is the weekend before Thanksgiving Black Friday and all that another fight that was in Vegas here in. Recent years was Connecticut Code. Oh that was the Saturday before Thanksgiving and they knew granted tickets were more expensive for that but they kind of knew that given the holidays he couldn't have it at the MGM. So they had a Mandalay Bay Smaller venue that sits twelve thousand. They were able to sell that out so if they do twelve granted. They don't sell out but they still do comparable numbers to other big fights that are in Vegas so twelve thirteen is a good number. Have for Let me switch up up. Did you see any crowd of Mexicans there for Lille Santa Cruz who's on the undercard versus Miguel Flores. Yeah is it Miguel Florida. Oh none. Wow Yes yes I didn't see non I mean I saw liles dead Ed and brother myself but no I didn't know I was going to say isn't the old from la though so like a lot up this fan base could be coming up with Thursday Friday. We'll say more and that's what I'm exactly exactly and that's what I'm saying. Mike you know being being in Vegas you know for sick days days. It's really expensive. Like I said even you don't even have all your media area so I'm GONNA be honest man. I rarely get there on on Tuesday unless there's a big fight unless there's a big name 'cause you know big names have fighter arrivals regular vegas FIS. Don't have FIDO ravages got Wednesday media workup way. No they get the media workout sometimes. Yeah sometimes sometimes sometimes but you know that's what I'm saying you know I don't know man I'm I was. I was happy with the crowd that I saw yesterday. I do expect it to pick up. Obviously naturally and And it'll be it'll be to me a a nice little a nice little Fight you know Speaking of wilder you know for him. He's in when you talk about boxing. The second longest Current were ten the second longest reigning criminal world chance and the longest is the the minimum wage be WBZ. You know the guy. That's fifty four now. I can't even pronounce his name. But you know for him to be back in the same place where he became champion for him and making this tenth title Defence of that. What heavyweight title? You know I do expect a larger crowd As the week week progressive naturally and not to get. How much profile has risen? I mean we were just talking. Two and a half million people watched that The biking now if they won't be having like a a cone circuit showing like at a movie theater her or or it's something special going to be going on Downer or do people with little to go to the fight or by the view. So that's a great question my So I know that they are having the fight. fathom events whatever movie theaters local events. The fight we'll be shown in Las Vegas. There is not a fathom events Cedar right so that's not. Just wow that Cannella. Does it every single single fight. The family event movie theater showing they did it for sons porter. There's not a movie theater in Las Vegas. That is partnered with them. They're so that now as far as they used to do Co. circuits here all the time for people to use. I have not seen that in several years I think the last time I saw that was to Nello triple. Ge even now that can never was on zone they don't do close circuits so He is not you know for a while or there's no closed-circuit however it is not Out of the ordinary because we have not assume that in a few years now So here in Las Vegas if you are not attending the fight varies wars. I was just looking looking it up. There's a lot of board and tell showing it I was just at the casino this past Sunday. They were are promoting it at one of their bars so There there will be plenty of places to people who are in town. That won't be going to the fight to To Watch it. You know when you talk about seventy five dollars pay per view one hundred twenty dollars ticket you might as well go at that point right my last question. What what reason did Ben Davies gave you? The one the at the Fi- I'm sorry you somewhat reasons is give me for what till you saying that security would not be at this upcoming. So can you give me a specific reason. He did tell me that Thomson has been doing some Some meteor tours for His book that I'm not sure if the book has dropped yet. Or if it's about to drop but he didn't he didn't mention that Spending time with family you know he said that basically You know at the basically fought healed up the cut a little bit and start doing that. WWe Shit so this style. Varez hate to interrupt you. But we have a world renowned trainer Steven Edwards the trainer of unified champion Julian Williams on the line. IBF IF I B O and WBA. We'll get right back to you if you are available. We're going to have to Stephen Edwards in Philadelphia. Talk to US Steven. How are you first and foremost foremost thank you for coming on the program? Find the time to talk a little bit of boxing with us and good morning man Ramona. Hey how you guys don't if you've owned your car for a while or maybe you got a great deal on a used vehicle that feels new AAA has a vehicle protection plan that fits your needs and your budget. 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Oh you mean as far as a preparation for this little bit of everything just an update on your starfighter He's on good man getting ready for his first title title defence and his and and hometown. So you know we've already been training for a minute you know we just had to solidify the date because it was a little bit of you know Uneven would with the date and who the opponent was going to be because we didn't know rather heard was going to exercise rematch clause but after we got all of that stuff audit away. I'm looking forward to a fight on a January eighteen. So he's training hard and doing what he needs to do. So how's it feel for you too to have a unified champion and be able to come back home and defend that title in in Philadelphia the core center somewhere where seven Pharma did very well for his defense versus Johnny car- You know it's a good feeling nest but you know in boxing without what I've learned and try to do is I try not to get too high and I try not to get too low. I always try to keep even mine and even demeanor about everything when it comes down to boxing because you never know you know I'm very I'm so blessed to be able for joy to be able would've fight at home and our family and friends could come out and see is what is also a flipside today whereas a lot of pressure a lot of people pulling different ways and Dan Philadelphia's city man they turn on the eagles they turn on the sixers. So you know we got to deliver you know we just was in that position Six months go with jared her for in his hometown and they treat it like it was some type of celebration like it was a foregone conclusion that he was is going to beat Julian. And you know. And when he lost that fight it was like a funeral. You know what I mean. They were walking around. The lobbies was teasing this. They was mocking this. They were saying different things but after the fight man you would have thought that somebody died so I gotTa keep that in perspective and I got Julian No. This is not no party. There's not a parolee. This is a fight in. There's a winner in a loses into a fight. So you know you you got a remain really really focused a lot. A lot of pressure on you fight now. Yeah Man I definitely could not relate but I understand the because we we we see fight as go. Oh you know they make it to the top and then you know the fans forget about you man. It's more about what. What have you done for me lately? Speaking of the opponent Denison Rosado uh-huh which is a Dominican fighter. Now everyone who listens to this show. I'm Dominican by blood. Mother and father was born here. But I know we're we're better baseball player than fighters but this young man kind of has turned it around. He suffered a loss to Nathan gallimore but since then he's been able to rack up some wins over some decent opponents people who who probably got the win versus you know. Maybe a Coloccini shouldn't be maybe Jonty Clarke. He shouldn't be and then his draw with a Madman Antonio Hernandez he came back in knocked tim out now I heard I think it was Jamaal Charles at his press conference telling Harrison. I'm no Jorges Coulter. Look at what I did the coach. This is a dude that also be coach so like how serious are you as a trainer taking the opposition. Do you know what the hardcore snow about about him or is this guy not on your radar. Obviously he's on my radar. I would be disrespecting the game for him not to be on my radar you. I know you did your homework on them but I did. My homework on a long to go. Dramatic Clark was a real good amateur me and that kid like six two six three three. And he's a southpaw. He's not easy to fight. And Jason Rosario beat him up just in Los was red hot when he fought him and he'd beat him up and Mark Antonio's Menendez is a fighter. Other fighter Corron Davis Fort Marketing Tony Hernandez gave him his first loss in really good fight and and he not mark Dantonio Hernandez out and there's only loss was against Daniel gala more. But it was young when they you know what I'm saying. He was young when they fought and Gallimore was a monster back day. You Know Julian kind of Spirit away from him. He's not the same fighter anymore but a couple of years ago Gallimore was running through guys so this guy is a serious fighter. And he's Athleti you know he played baseball. You know you gotTA generate a lot of powering swing and baseball baseball and the kid is athletic. He was a baseball player. So I know we up again. I don't care what people say. This is a real fight and it's a tough fight and And a we prepare like it. You know what took me off is. He's a Samson the wicked witch fighter. You Know Samson has only found world class fighters you know pack Yao Sergio Martinez Javier Fortuna. I mean the list goes on and on exactly the list goes on and also also you know I mean my co-host y need to introduce these been quiet. I guess he's letting me take the show. Michael Gross in Indiana has been on Rosario and actually made hey to some money on a couple of Rosario Parlays Mike take it away. How's it going this morning? Hey Hey how are you. I'm doing pretty good. I kinda want to change gears real quick were you able to see Dr Charleston in Harrison. Press Conference yes. I want to get your quick Analysis about that press craft now. A lot of people say ended. The Harrison isn't Charles Harrison uneven saying that he's in charge after you pay that that Argument and and disdaining tweet may cause one guy to do something in a rain. They don't do. It may cost me. I mean it already did Harrison. Beat them in the first fight so oh I mean it's hard to fight angry. You know when you don't clip a guy is difficult to fight angry Charles clip a couple of days in a row where we clicked John Jackson he clipped Ericsson Lubrany clip. Charles Hatley what. If you don't clip the guy you know after that he you start going to distance and you start struggling verse trial and And harassing and You know like I say just hard to fight mad and boxing. You know Mike Tyson exit could do it. Drove mccullum can do it. Those is exceptional fighters and even when they went and fight they You know they had trouble so Charles seems angry. You know. He's like like like he me. Anger Management. I don't know you know I mean. He seems like a really really angry guy right now. Harrison Person Seems Kinda commonly back not saying Harrison has to win because I think we put too much stock in press conferences and all that kind of stuff. I've seen thing guys you know. have off body language and come out to the ring and look like an animal and everybody say this guy or that guy is scared pack. y'All got he's always smiling and shaking hands. Dan You get in the ring. He turned into a dragging. So you can't really go by that all the time you know but from what I saw you know the first fight. Their Jane's was telling Charl the stop loading up stopped. Doing you know. Stop trying to go for the knockout land. Some good shots and he was loading up and terrorists and basically won the fight light with Jazz. You know what I mean. Really putting a bro Beaten on Charlie and he just used the job then just was calm and the judges gave him the decision. It was a close fight so oh I don't know if he's in his head you know what I mean. I just know that from what I saw. One Guy seems really really angry and other guys seem to be Kinda like lead back having fine. And that's you know that's that's that was my observation of the press conference. And how would you rather go into laid back or angry. 'cause I mean you the trainers i. I'm sorry to interrupt but you hear some chain of say they want to fight it be mean as as a main angry is different ness. I want my fighter to be mean but I want him to be focused and I want his demeanor to become. You know you ever get to argument. which a woman may start yelling hollering me and this? That's it is exhausting. You know like like I don't know I I wouldn't. That demeanor is not the demeanor that I will want my fighter to have again unless Russian punch like Mike Tyson ad that Kinda Kinda Kind of physical attributes where you can really fight angry like that. You KINDA WANNA fight calm under control and everything look at Terry Norris their noses a great fighter right but don't Ovalles realized they'd do got disqualified three times in his career. Both guys go. You can go tim careers in. dulcie might get disqualified. He was disqualified three times in his career because he couldn't control his anger. You know so Uh I definitely wouldn't want my fighter to be going in the ring. Angry like that focusing mean is a lot different than being angry. Now Bradman I I do follow you on twitter and sometimes some of the tweets you put out really really badly thanking in. I believe it was about two weeks ago. You you came out with a tweet about how can I just ended and I totally totally agree with it but I came on this show again. I repeat it and some people said that I was saying in crisis. But if you don't remember the go-ahead refresh your memory being half a pound best and being the most accomplished. It's not always one in the same away. Loma Crawford a Nello. All have real cases could Nello best resume other three probably have been a skill system and could beat him. If all we're saying is now could you explain what you mean by that. Like I stick when I say the the the the resume but I still think Crawford would be Everything was level then crop would beat them. But what do you see debt. That makes you come to that conclusion. All I think it was self explanatory. I think knows a hell of a fighter but when you say the best fighter in the world my eyes tell me that is the Crawford Loma or Inoue but on paper. It's a no if you go back. As far as he forced you know guys that were missing the things like that would a new way you seen. Have you seen the ZO donation. Fight his first real fight cool. No one will fight. That wasn't his first real fight a lot of times guys. Is it lower weight division. They overlook that'd do been rolling for a long time. That wasn't as I listen to coming. So that's the same rolling Chocolat theater was doing when you rolling them. Dudes in the law division. Don't nobody know then. You finally get in there with some when we finally get someone we know. He's over the hill and Rigo beat the brakes off them and Nicholas. Walters beat the break bichsel. Just because you're you know that was his toughest test to date no neat little drug them Jack because us just because you don't know his opponent that don't mean they not credible chocolate Tito fort that do on Estrada about seven eight eight years ago in a crazy fight at the La form. I watch that fight on Youtube years ago I might man. Both of these news is good. Nobody knew chocolate. Coutinho nobody knew on the Strada wireless trying to top ten pound for pound guy now and chocolate. Tedo going into the hall of fame just because you don't know that don't mean they not credible the books that just means that you don't follow the little weight classes good enough hall of fame. y'All think chocolate keitel's in all the pain. I'm I wanted to show. He won on your show. He Will Tabu multiple titles history the win titles from Straw. Wait to the junior bantamweight. What oh five? The one fifteen is only been done one time and I know all the fame I argue with people all the time about it I just I just feel like he was a bit of a creation by H. B. O.. They were in a bit of a rough spot at the time. Think about this list is just walk down the street with me. They're wearing a bit of SPA with golden boy and Al Hayman departure. They didn't have inventory. They had to create people. They're like why do in triple defy anybody until he finally fought. Daniel Jacobs three four years his. Hbo Contract You know what I mean. Same something which I don't think they were trying to make the equivalent and Dale Jacobs fights earlier et honestly. I like both and I. I know early on no quilting and I know. They tried to make that fight but they ain't tried to make that fight where they try to make is now people get paid for a risk find. What is he's trying to make them fight for years? Nobody didn't WanNA fight you g until Kell Brook took his little butt over there and Fordham that all of a sudden kill book has some good around on triple J and not by no coincidence in his mid thirties. He started getting every fight that he wanted Kodo all those guys. Nobody wanted to fighting and all all got no horse in the race. Pay Not even in my guys division. I don't think the money was there that guy. I don't think the money was. I don't think the money was there. Look look at look at look at the day. Go Look at the David. Daniel Jacobs pay per view. The money wasn't dead Eh. It wasn't there if I'm if I'm Miguel coat off I by the hall of fame. Or why do I fight you. Offer not valid in all states or prohibited by law loans are subject to lender approval. See Website for details fleet. Wait weekly tell me. Where did you get that money man? Oh this money came from forty-three money dot com right or are you saying you into forty-three money dot com and got all that money. 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Nilo we doing not hundred thousand Boston awesome. Daniel gives you the same reason why you fight Dan Gill that that was just a fight in the contract. You you see how you see how that works. When when a guy says it ain't no money in the fight always ask what about the other guys that you fight it? Okay but then you Gil Daniel Gills not accent for the type of money Gennady gluskin would expect for Miguel Koto for you and I both know that dope. Although he calls the show exactly he must fight. He's not he he Michelle G.. Miguel Kodo could have made that fight your Sergio Martinez could afford triple J. You'll you really honestly don't believe that but for Aww gees evening together for three years. Stephen I believe he. I believe Sergio could afford triple g but Sergio would have been looking backwards. I don't make it to the mountaintop and slay the dragon my next purse after slaying. That dragon is the treasurer. So who was the treasurer. Miguel Kodo the big fucking do coming up behind you. He's coming behind you. He's gotta earn his spot mess. Mess let me just say this now. You haven't Evan revisionist history. Because I'm gonNA tell you why. Miguel Code didn't move up until two thousand fourteen. Sergio Martinez wanted to fight a a smaller main him and triple Gee whiz champions at the same time in two thousand eleven two thousand twelve two thousand thirteen two thousand fourteen while they which champions at the same time he was fighting guys like Martin Murray and Matthew mcelwain and other guys from the UK at Triple J was planned people in body bags on HBO. Yeah exit for the fight. Any never fifty pounders bodybags fifty four pounds who resided Rosario Gaber. Rosaria was a fifty four pound to move in. We all know we all know was. It's my man named. That was the first time I start. Really respected him when he finally be Curtis leading Soto Alco exactly and then he four. Exactly exactly the same thing I'm telling you Kodo. And Sergio did is the same thing that Kennedy was doing. He told me I'll go down to fight Koto or I'll go down to fight mayweather. The weather will want to go up and fight Andre Ward No. I can't do that. Come on come on. I'm not giving him no pass for that. You brought him up. And I'm telling you that. The middleweight division was ducking until he got older. You'll think is no coincidence. That he he got all the fights he wanted is known as cal. One two rounds art come on national. Boxing dog fights that man. I mean the list so the money wasn't there man ain't nobody over here. In America get offered four million dollars to fight Gennady but they offer the welterweight. Does she knew it was going to boost profile. Now you can fall for it if you want but when you when you know you can't pulled out of the and and you're going to believe and you believe in you don't believe Steven you're going to believe that he pulled out the fight or the or the any order. Eddie Eddie and his father was having issues. You know on the promoter promoting things all right. Listen you know what triple. Oh Gee ain't my guy. I want to be arguing over his career. I really don't and my opinion. I know things that happened on the same. I've got privy to certain information. I'm not calling. No fighters out our respective all fighters. But I'm telling you and I'M GONNA leave it at this. That man was unequivocably. Duck for years. He pledged to heart is amateur. Pedigree too big Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah La. Then when he got thirty four thirty five kill br rows. He started getting in fights with the bigger names Perry. Now you'll believe believe me. I'm not gonNA argue about. I don't care that much. I'm calling with Abram Cool trip gee I'm cool with a lot of fighters I'm telling you them do ducting the next time you get one of them guys on his show. Ask them honestly honest question. Did you ever change the fighting. Two Thousand Twelve two thousand thirteen two thousand fourteen was your answer. I know fighters they say to me amateur fights and lawyer nobody nuts they literally early say that that man got too many amateur fights. I'm like God damn ain't no way in the world. I say that I'll allow that. Don't believe me I'm telling you we got up his not. That I don't believe in question is not that I don't believe you. I'm just I just feel that if any one one was offered for million dollars like Kelly Brook they would've took it. Okay you telling me Julia House. Take a four million dollar. Pay Four million everybody now making that way or sparks G. for free grow so then he would definitely conversation so then he would definitely fight them for free. I mean he'll definitely fight a full four million million dollars. That's a lot. Okay that's fine you telling me 'cause I couldn't have demanded that the fighting as a champion you telling me he wouldn't ma. I made that could. No one was. Asia was a huge star. He said I'm too small but this is the issue when when canals involve I'm not I'm mad at him for saying that because he is too small. It's thousand fourteen when you when you reach a certain status in boxing you can pick and choose a little bit. I'm Eh for saying that but I'm telling you is that he said the issue with fighting Canelo. Oh is all of us in people. Think I gotta get retirement money. I'll give you a quick example. Kennel offer Derby Chanko. Five point five that that wasn't good enough for him but that same point five was good enough to fight a thirty six year-old triple innovated titlefight everything strategic succeeds. If everything is strategic. I'm not I'm not listening. I'm not disagreeing with anything. I'm not disagreeing with nothing. That you said understand. Boxing is a business. You you can only fight one person that Tom and the risk verse we wore has to be there. The only thing I'm telling you is that he was avoided until at least mid thirties. For whatever reason you WANNA come up with. He couldn't get into ring. WanNa be elite eight list until he had a tough night in this not gras. Let me tell you let me tell you how thing doernen listen. Let me tell you one more thing. It's laundry Laura. Called that man out all all his life. He's still calling them out. He wanted an elite fighter as long as it did a pay per view Canelo Alvarez. He could've fought Laura he could afford he. They want that problem. You really believe that was just talk. Do you really believe you. Laura who struggled with fucking Golo really wanted to fight that may he found around the world of women with a winning broke and Guler audible. And so I don't I don't care how unglue made him look. For the first couple of rounds he found the would win he felt just like India. Got Off the floor. Found a will to win. Oh determined got hit with a body shot and found the will to win. How do we discredit dude? Food going through adversity and Bassett Nets Little Woodham saying see we are in the age of Click B Internet stuff. Were guys in the media. You guys anybody can say anything. y'All can run with it just because it got get on social media or give an interview about our fight this guy or fight that God you guys don't have privy to back seems negotiations. You don't know we're really really happened unless you've got somebody and top rank off this hour Heyman's office in Goldenvoice also for any hers office. It's easy easy to get on the Internet. You know what many times her ally on the Internet about Julie and I just laughed at all. Somebody said he was in negotiations to fight. Laura Amin emme alarm manager is calling in the fame and that never happened and only thing I just said was people just talk shit. And then I heard all man Julian Duck and Laura Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah but. Don't even know that we already signed the fight to win a Harrison Charles. Oh and we already assigned to Phijira hurt in the rematch. Who beat Laura? So a young guys don't know everything behind the scenes so just because they do get all social media go in the interview and WanNa fight him. That don't mean Shit. Your people have to call that person's people have serious negotiations. Do you have to put your name on contract or green principle to a fight and there are certain things that I don't know and I'm telling you man Laura is a gun. He don't care who we fight. But do you really think it's people would arrest. I guess that killer at that time are you. Surrey's Full Council believes that cal for a million dollars. I I don't see why I don't show on from the UK in a four in the UK they fought in the UK. But you. But that's what I'm saying fighting a UK already side but that's still not all don't finances. He's still my argument. The money the money is going to make a jump out the window. Our unique circumstances the off a- An opponent from the UK. Fill out kill. Brook's promoter say I'll get another undefeated star that we have here fill up the show. We already spent millions of dollars in a promotion so calabro had him by the balls. He probably could have got more money than that because they were doing a show in this the country at that date and he stepped up. I'll fighting your money. Don't get other guy but but steven circumstances no no is not because you're making. It seem like it was a big baby Miller would do fell out. No this was just negotiations out in the open and one do didn't take and and someone else did. They still had a ten week. They still had a promotional tour. It was an it wasn't like they sold out anything. They didn't sell nothing now. They had to sell out once they did the tool once. They announced a fight. When Cao Brooke stepped up? It was just headlines in the media Chris eubank vs good Lufkin. I do want to start. We'd be talking about this for like thirty minutes. I I WANNA I wanna get your thoughts on the water and taking on the weeds Ortiz in a rematch weekend and laws bankers. Do you think there's a way. Ortiz can be victorious this year. I mean sure he could win the fight almost one the first one. I'm not picking them the way but he can win the fight. He hurt the I know. Luis Ortiz are really good skillful guy. For the aren't they got something guys. Don't realize realize man he's just a tough guy to beat. You know we got a extraordinary way about being able to land is hardest punch. There's a lot of guys who punch heart but they can't land the hardest artist punch. He has a way of being able to land his hardest punch whereas everybody and God haven't figured out how he's landing shot and You know until somebody figured I don't I can't bet against the wall feels like fight week to you and You know what man I've been training me. I spend time with my kids when I get home. My son played football and basketball. My daughter do basketball and track and stuff stuff so I really you know when we gotta fight our really be paying attention too much honestly. I don't know what's going on. How big is and the buds and all that kind of stuff honestly Kinda shut myself away from all that kind of stuff man We got about fifty nine days top fight. And you know I gotTa make sure. Julian's ready to roll every day twice a day. We've been going to jump onto the track you know so I really don't know was going on. I'll call up a couple of boys with PBC and see how things are going. I'LL VEGAS VEGAS I'm not even going. You know what I mean. I'm staying home because we got to train the next day so You know I don't know I gotta see now. I know people from both teams eighteen. So hopefully it's a good fight so I'm thinking of rounds. One through six group. Bet He had Ortiz out on fifth round you know. Even he says most interviews that he was saved by the bell. What are you leaning? Second half you'd think that because of the preparation with a coach Larry Wait. I'm sure you know him with your time. With with Sean Porter Does does that make a difference. I if I did end in the eleventh so You know what that's a good question. I think Larry ways a really good coach he does a good job. With Sean Porter and Kayla Point I just don't I think the Ontario is going to clip them. But I can't really tell you when it come early. You know It it can come late. It kinda depends on our tease breaks the distance. These guys let the get ahead of steam and get a whole lot of momentum when he does his right hand and and. I don't think that that's the way to fight him. I think you gotTa make sure you don't get no extension or no whip pointers shop. A tough fight would have been like a young only Phil because Phil can break that distance and work without Deonte get an extension on it. You know like like he was able to do with a bigger guys but I. It's hard for me. My guess if I had to guess somewhere meet with midway through somewhere between four and seven four and eight somewhere wearing a third of the fight the cripple. They don't do groups like that they only do. I have a second half but So what's on the Roy. Oy Ooh so the second half okay. What's your thoughts on the release fight? You know we had went lamb back into the film study and watch versus Joseph Park. And I just couldn't see Ruiz's beating Anthony Joshua now always questioned Joshua's Chen then we always thought he was Cheney but I I didn't see that type of power in Ruis. How do you see this rematch? Plan out. Unless she no most rematches go to the guy who scored a conclusive knockout But this fight could go a lot of ways. I think that Joshua fight tall. Don't fight long and I think that there is a difference. Good trainers two different. There's a big difference in fighting long if I saw. Aw Joshua stand up to straight you hitting too. Many little looping shot I think I think I think Louise is Is is a guy that don't over think I think all you do is just have fun when he fights and and I think that works in his favor you know because he's just you know he's out there having fun he's not trying to do too much with Joshua seemed to be. Stressed rushed out in over thinking in the fight Joshua Caroline this fight because he got too many physical advantages over week but It's GONNA it'll be another tough fight for me. I see them getting knocked out again. If you don't fight the right fight it's going to be a really really tough fight for him again do you. You see that man. Can they play out the same way though. Like is going to be more tactical now because both men are going to fear each other's power. No I think we've got to fight the fight. They need fight. I think Joshua you know it's probably will make people mad when I say this. You know if you fight on preview but I think he you gotta make the fight born. I think you gotta make the fight rural. Hold up my earpiece fellow. I'm back. I think he's gotTa make the fight rural born and winning decision man and go home sorta on Lennox Lewis David to sit now. Are you fearful of a Carlos Taco like stoppage when. Aj tied him. Do you think that they you know take or is it because the world is watching. We won't get no fucker. You know what that's a great point Nestle because they did for Carlos Taco. I didn't like that stoppage at all. There's a couple of doctors that I saw that I've seen and I'm like damn. They must've went that the referee mix. I hope they don't do that. You know but ruis out Woodham he got PVC with him a lot riding on this fight so hopefully at least they won't pull that on him. The weeding call those talk him where he didn't have that kind of back. I hope that don't have to. I want to get to another one complete. Slander Kinda had fake other. Worse thing about about. Boxing is being a bad issue. If you declined the MIC commission doesn't agree you get anxiety because you'd think they they can't retaliate with commissions. Just filter them out before here. I want to know what ignited that tweet. Like what motivated you to put that tweet out. Sometimes man I just some random stuff man. It was nothing that motivated me. Obviously we don't even have a fight you know till four minutes you know so But I'll just judges are human being and when you want and officials and referees and everybody is human and and When you gotTa Tell Them Hey guys could you hold on for one second literally? Give me one second. I gotTA take this call my second no problem I would. We come back. Man Says we going down a follow up question Jag Reese and a two point deduction from chaos I. If he's seen that knows any opinion about it yeah man good interview so far if you're watching this on youtube don't forget the thumbs up and as it helps with the visibility this show and then Lets US know that you appreciate Bradman schooling me as the chattan schooling. Me I don't know man it's gotTa Supachai from Four Bam media. Who says it took triple G Fizi Millie to fight dervish of a tango? You know so his words a triple. Gee wouldn't fight the chang-chol until he got fifteen million. So that's all I'm saying. Money is what motivates you know. Yeah I mean we all know. He Duck Derby Chango the first time he vacated about like. I mean come on my bad people. Damn we didn't fucking up this whole time. Yeah well I ended in the. Oh Yeah Dot Sandy. I've seen Super cheap long people empire nuts. Let me see if he's ready Stephen there. I'm here okay. So might go. You want to pick up where you left off now we we're talking about The tweet that you out about the Fisher. You're going down of the avenue talking about sometimes Officials are inhuman to make mistakes or something like that. Well basically we want to talk about Logan. Paul fight and Steve. What is a Jag reese A again Injecting himself taking two points from Logan poll really ruining the fight and causing it to go another way to watch youtube fighter. No no I did you know I I really did and you know I'm I'm happy for those kids. They gotta make some money. But I just didn't even it wasn't wasn't even on my radar to be honest with you. I don't even know who they are. I don't know what happened. I don't know anything I could say was one of the black guy a white guy I. I don't know anything about it. I didn't see I didn't read on it I didn't watch highlights so I can't really speak on it so you. You didn't even know Evan. Haney was on the on the car. I didn't know della handles on on cars. I'm a big fan of Hanes but I just didn't watch it. You know it just. It just really wasn't something I was interested. President and I felt like that ever. He was on the UNDERCARD. The his opponent would not have been any significant. So I just you know. I didn't even pay attention to be honest Hi He actually you know. He actually defended the title at first he was. It was GONNA be a non side of the fence and the Internet. You know the Internet spoke up and he listened and he chose the defense title allegedly according to him and his father they went down the line and everyone was Busy or didn't want to fight until they got the number seventeen. Some of those names. I can believe you know Obviously they didn't call devante because he already had a fight. Scheduled began boa. Who He's the number one Luke Campbell. I could see him not wanting to do it on such short notice I did question. Ramsey's bartholomew do you think these would have turned down a title shot or was that too short-notice plus the whole how could our no ransom could've miwon thirty-five that fast you know what I mean. He's a big Guy Fighting one forty so obviously Tommy where they had a lot to do with it. I don't know if he could have made the weight saying that's also a factor when you're talking about short notice despite definitely so we were talking. Jack Ries what. What was your thoughts? I mean I'm sure you probably express them on on twitter somewhere. But what were your thoughts on that alleged long count by Wilder Talking about with You told him out against Tyson fury correct right okay. I was daring that fight and I think. Let me see this in in correctly. Me 'cause I'll sh I think that they doing too much after a guy gets knocked down else and I don't want to single out Jack Reese You know personally but I just think it's too much being done after fighter gets not. Oh cal I didn't like. How much was done with wilder after he was buzz verse or Teens? You know with all of this stuff in between rounds and all that kind of stuff so sometimes when you complain you gotTa look at it from both points of view. Wilder wasn't knocked down and he did a lot of stuff him. In between rounds in New York. I think that when a fighter gets hurt or not down you actually fighters e okay you you know you see if he can regain his feet without wobbling. And if he can't then that that means that the other guy render him unconscious or hurt him enough where he can't contain all walk this way. Walk that way duties handstands and do his jumping jacks. If you're given the guy that much tom despite the ten seconds of him you know having to get up. That's like an extra thirty seconds to give me so while I agree while that it was too much going on as far as giving Thais inferior chance to recover. I didn't like how much time he got to recover when he fought Not even knock down. I think that this is a brutal sport and understand that people get hurt. But if you're that hurt and they need to stop the fight is too much going on to these guys recover and between In between getting hurt or knocked down is just too long and if you want to save the guy. The health conscious if health is the reason. Just stop the damn fight but the walking back and forth and stuff. I don't like that all like that and I never did I I think too much. What do you make about the WBZ adapting the water while the new water clenbuterol? We're all levels allowed us. The reason the last time you gave us a lot of good information about knowing saying anti doping and you said let's with lady Margaret Goodman so. I figured that'd be a great question to act the bread man you know You know what it's a fair question I'm going to say like this I think that we can get a whole lot of extra computer. All levels popping up now with a lot of people are going to test positive for these trace amounts amounts clenbuterol. But it's going to be allowed And that's all I can say I mean I think. PD uses prevalent I don't buy every time somebody come up with clenbuterol the eating steak and Mexico. I can't keep buying because if I wanted to cheat I I say again I would say I was a Mexican fighter living in Mexico. What would I say I would say? I was eating steak if that's what I wanted to do. It also helps you lose lose weight and keep muscle and keep energy so I just don't know You know I understand why you know the law from it though. Can you cycle off Komo you can. Yes yes I know I know guys who actually like weightlifters and stuff in jammed sounded actually do do they. They actually do it like maybe working out. The summertime beat stuff and get all ripped up and he laughed and he talked about it. Like it's like is open like no athlete. This stuff is not illegal with ban. I'm not I'm not a boxer. So yeah you can and I just is I. Just don't buy that excuse every time but if the WBZ maybe they have some kind of research and they understand that it you know in Mexico which is improving. And I just hope. Nobody gets seriously hurt in a boxing ring with a fighter who tested positive well it is the WBZ. They've only adapted with water is already doing the elevated levels that water has accepted Understand understand I'm just saying that I just hope that even what I'm saying is even with these elevated levels. That's being accepted Ed now. I hope we don't see Trag- tragedy in the ring with somebody with elevated levels. You understand what I'm trying to say like like even if it's accepted in it's is not illegal it would be bad look for boxing for fighter to be allowed to have elevated levels and then we see him hurt his opponent in the way where you know we have a a tragedy where you know so many young guys have been getting hurt recently. So how far do you think we are in terms of years from you know fighters or at least the top fifteen being three hundred sixty five day tested with bottom. You know Margaret better than us It's a money thing you know personally would try to do for our fights. We do pay vodka to work in the clean testing program and Julian is not a WBZ champion. I try to show much integrity as I can with. Also I also am in correspondence with Margaret. Even when we don't even have a fight on the books so I can do ninety or more days of testing before I'll fight to try to show much integrity as I can as far as as far as the testing this concern to me is easy to do because I know my guy is clean. You know it becomes a little more difficult when you gotta question if the guy is clean and not so. I try to do as much testing as I possibly can. Do you know with 'cause there really is no inconvenience of how expensive is it The reason that the number is important. Let me let let me just express the reason that the number is important because a lot of people like to say well. Some fighters aren't even making twenty five thousand. How could they pay vodka or acts revival? It it it. It costs five figures. I'm not saying the exact number and the reason why I'm not gonNA save. An exact number is because the plight does get negotiated the same way sanctioning fees get negotiated. I need and I don't WANNA screw nobody up because we may have a different number. That would another fighter had to pay. So that wouldn't be fair to Margaret or whatever but I will say that it does cost over over five figures it does cost over ten thousand dollars to do And I could leave it at that but man when you're talking about dying in the boxing Shen Ring I always say I always ex-fighter who don't get it. I'm like you rolling. Cost Twenty and thirty thousand dollars. You know what I'm saying. You Got Jewelry on. It costs that much. So you know what's wrong with paying ten or fifteen or twenty or twenty five grand for some testing so you can make sure your opponent. Don't come in the ring. He Yeah No. That's that's that's the way I rationalize it personally It's expensive you're not going to see a twenty five or thirty or forty thousand dollars and five or do it for once you reach the championship level and your person says well into six figures than you can negotiate and to me is working at that point. It's a tax write off. Those are my questions. I'm Mike Catt something I got one you. Did you say that you guys have already signed Harrison in Charleston. Will you be watching that site act. That is watching you this weekend. So from a trainers perspective would you do. If it was closer. I would come honestly I would if it was closer but it's going to be La. And I can't I don't WanNa their fights December twenty first advice Jianghua racing travel is Kinda like Tom Consuming. So I don't want to miss two or three days travel when I watch the fight on. TV You feel what. I'm saying. I really would come to the fight. I WANNA come to the fight but I can't. I can't afford to miss that much training just to go to La to watch like that. I've seen fight a bunch of times and I watch it on TV. I got a wife for you so if I fight with there's one hundred percent will go inside man so like why are these spikes in. La Why is it really the sightsee. Like why is Charles Harrison. La that that doesn't seem to make. No I'll know that's a good good question. I don't know man you know what man I'm an expert on minding my own business is not my guy so I really don't know honestly don't want some I want some Detroit I don't know what he fighting. La I have no. I have no knowledge of that hassle. Ask for you what about for you like is it. I think it's going to be so long. I think it's going to be tough on Tony Harrison to fight in La. Because of the. Tom's honestly do no because because Djamil lives in. La And west coast judges like more aggressive fighters and Jamal is GONNA be the aggressor in the fight. East Coast. Joe Judges is used to sing. A slicker boxer punchers. I fight was in New York so I think is GonNa be famous Djamil off but a second fight they be in LS. That's just my personal pain. Why is out there? I don't know that was interesting. I know right. What do you makeable tank? Fighting in. ATLANTA I think that's smart man. Leonard L. A. B. Doesn't my guy. He's a smart do. ooh So you put you put you put a K.. Okay we got news. I should mention you might assume but I think you're smart. You know what I mean. You put a kid does from Baltimore. which is urban city hard black communities and then you put ten Davis and Atlanta where there's a lot of black people and put them in their winning opponent best chimney so it'll be an exciting fight and then you know people were not hardcore fans? The most people are casual fans so they see a brutal knockout -versities too fast little guys fighting next thing you know. Everybody's going to be comparing Davis the Mike Tyson. I think that's smart. If you guys remember where was the rematch for for Shane. Mosley and Burning Fars. It was at the Black Expo in In Indianapolis that year so where was your third fight between Tarver and Jones. It was somewhere down floor for real high black community. So that's smart. They're put the fight there I think that David is Gong. Aw to not gamble out in exciting fashion which is what they want now Do you believe the Davis is the biggest fife everyone at one. Twenty six one thirty one thirty five and one forty four. He's not a twenty six pounder decades I wouldn't say twenty twenty six. He's the biggest fight for everybody. I'm just repeating l'herbe says okay I mean I don't agree with that You know I I think he's at one thirty five now so I don't think he would be. There's no way a twenty six pounder with jumped two week divisions to fight that guy as hard as he parched. You're not gonNA see yeah. I don't know but he would have to go back down. I'm assuming when Alabi says the L. A. B. Says when I'm assuming when he he said this he means the Tanka fight he's the biggest for anyone at one twenty six anyone at one thirty one forty down. That's a different story I was I thought when you said I took it literally not figuratively Let me think I mean he's a big he's a he's a big star. You know I think Shukor Stevenson is getting there. I think I think tank is probably the biggest star right now because he was a champion before Stevenson and I know he's probably made more money so I think he's Probably the the golden goose right there. I don't consider any of them. Exactly what you'd call superstars yet. You're not a superstar until you headline your own. We'll pay per view but and do well by the way but I do think he is the biggest fight for most of the guys. They're not thirty five though because Loma Olma is the guy at thirty five and I don't think he's made as much money as long or had the biggest spotlight as as lonely has had with the fights their lowest publicize Loma. I would say that is That is Tank Dave's who who's the bigger drove tank or I don't know I mean I guess right now that if I had to go buy everything it will be Roman. I mean Lomas Ford on pay per view. He's overseas. He's made a whole lot of money. He's had fourteen fifteen title fight. He's had I think he's had he has more of a worldwide audience. You no no Yeah with the Narrow what's the Olympian Guy. Luke Camp I think he's had that so I just think Loma has has a has had a little bit more exposure to little older. He's been fighting a little bit longer. You know what I mean. I just think he's had a little bit more exposure at this point but McGregor on car for overseas versus. Liam Smith Stephen's death Loma is the is is a slightly bigger star at this point but listen. I wouldn't argue of tank is a bigger star. He was a star man. They got billboards of them out there in Baltimore. They do this during this thing. I'm like trust me. I think as close but you ask him who would be the Assad it before it will be lonely in my opinion of his credentials. How long he's been fighting with these fights at what he's done things like that? I think they're Loma it. The way you tell the East side and the B side is kind of simple. It's how they split. Look the person up and I believe the ten day was. We'll make more money in their Loma if he was the fighting. And that's just my personal opinion but that could change. You know what the main tank is would would would may whether in L. A. V. and they know the game they know how to get. Get the money right so that could change in the near future but right now at this point you asked me I think mobile is the shock collar at one thirty five. He's the Golden Goose for after him. I think tank is the second biggest star. Why do you think he might be gate at Bota who moments I think? 'cause Haney beating I'm gonNA check the person man and and just because the guy is young don't mean can't win no fight every Haney is the real deal and I think that the risk reward in that fight is a tough I I. I don't know the only could be hanging. I gotta see them to fight in the ring then. Hey Me is is is serious me that can fight. He is not a lot of people in boxing. Naked beat him. I think that's an extremely tough by for Loma Loma is getting a little older. She's not past his mom but he's definitely getting a little older and I think it's a tough fight. Can the BE SAAS can the B sides in the off offer shore. The networks is behind him and he got the money behind them shore. So all the time. Why don't you think limit be thank? Thank Davis accepted the million dollar. Offer from Eddie hearn or a lease check the temperature to see if there was real. I don't even know what they got. I seven million dollar offer who he's been. How many interviews Amen I give? Thanks for coming down to come fight. tiven on disown becoming baby. Oh okay okay okay. I Apologize. I thought she was talking about My bad I thought you were talking about Hanes I don't know man you know you're gonNA have to get Leonard on the show. I don't WANNA be nobody spokesperson but I kind of assume that you know that happens when you don't want you guys that fight on another network you know what I mean when you can just build them on your own network he. He gave me this. I don't want to speak for nobody. No no this is what this this was his answer to me. He's like is ESPN. Did they allow us to go to disown. No because that's their franchise which is fine is may whether franchise fighters so he stays there just like another you go fight can come to listen I'm not arguing I I I think you're right. I think just I can't speak for him but I would assume that that's probably would it is. There's guys that people let fighters go over to different networks but is is hard to get your franchise guy to go over. You know what I mean but seven million dollars a lot of money you you know a lot of money to turn their lots of money it turned out it really. Is You know so I like I said there's no really right or wrong. Answer you know it will be hard for me. The turned down Julian to be honest with you. If I sing it on paper it was refunded my face but let me preface this way for. Oh you because what if you didn't see it on paper what if it was just Eddie hearn offering Julian Williams seven eight million in an interview would you at least have someone called him. Would you at least find out real people could say yeah you gotta find out of his room. You got to a certain point you know. We're we not in this game. Nobody wants to be fighting fifty years old. And nobody. You know you in this game and make money so you got to find out if somebody you gotta call the bluff at that point. Well listen like I said I don't want to speak for ten Davies. Because he he could be making a boatload of money fighting less and so somebody may have said why. Go over there and take this fight. Where's this slick guy and I could get guys? Stay right in front of you that you could knock out for for almost as much as they just know. We sold out BOSSOM. What I'll give you a better scenario? What do you think because you said you fly? I'm putting you on the spot. I'm glad that you said you fly with the cougars junior. How do you convince Vince? If you are the train of the manager of Lewis. Ot's how do you convince them not to take a seven million dollar fight with Anthony Joshua folded belts in New York City now. I know he's fighting tomorrow. Saturday whatever today is but like how do you like I mean nobody has ever said Ed rumors of wild to be Chinni this been rumors of. Aj Being Cheney since the very beginning like I would assume people want to jump on that fight especially for seven mill. I'll know man. I can't really comment on that because I don't know I that's that's the best answer that I wanted the hyper zone. I want to but that will put you in addition he might he might. He might touch that number. He might touch that number wilder. Who knows one thing that you guys don't know there's some that every auto money they get reported? Don't be the money that they gotta be making. Oh No we notice the charter one. The State No. We know that I could show them some. Might say look. You can't touch that same number. You won't touch that same number. Where the guy who's familiar with an almost? Maybe that's what it was. I don't know not. That's the same narrative we were saying. Though yeah I gotta guess like I said Man. I've been I've I've been. I've become an expert in mind my own business. I try to stay out of everybody stuff. Because I've got stuff going on with my own guys man. We gotta get rolling ourselves. You know what I mean so somebody turn turnoff someone I always say. Oh man maybe something under the table that the public know about. Listen guys I gotta go man. We gotTa Start Training Anyway. It's been more than generous with time. And thank you so much man who was very very informative in great interview if he got any social. The Go ahead and give it out now. Nah Man I don't care about time stuff. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it so that ran over. So long that Madonna. I hate that ship. You're word is bond with interview. I was good very informative very informative did you guys enjoy that You know I didn't see one super chassis yellow. Hello Bradman so great. You should get him back. Oh man what a love man. That was a lot of information right there. Let's go out to the callers. Any final thoughts might for we open it up. Yeah my smash that. Many of the show helps us get some more guests on him and That's like guess number four to if you haven't checked out yesterday's raise episode. Make sure that you do. I had three guests on yesterday for the evening show. We had Who'd we have there? We add Jake Donovan. Boxing she seen writer. We had Ronnie Shields where renowned trainer. And who else did we have wells. Did we have. I don't even remember all. Oh man is suck so we had a third person. I believe but you can find out just south of you head on over to tune in stitcher right here on YouTube dot com for which which last box invoice also on the box dot com. You can find our podcast every wear remember to write his five stars on Itunes. These calls are brought to you by L. Camino electrical services experts in electric vehicle charging stations for consultations and turnkey installation visit us at El Camino electrical electrical services dot com. Only well below Sir Fight Week. Let's let's go with Caserta talked to see. Maybe A it was good great interviews and stuff then this was a long one. Shaw Grew up said so Yeah I checked out that thing on Fox. I don't think you can actually download that and then get the fight. You have to actually do the papers that doesn't include. Who of course you got to pay per view on the APP? But you don't have to pay for the APP. I should know know you know you asked if you have to pay for the APP. The APP is free. The paper view is not. I got the apple on that. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa go right now. I don't have cable. 'cause I don't have cable. Thousands trying to find a way to wash fight other than gone ought to drive too far to wash the fate but Great interview as soon as I went to the Fox sports at oppressed the the little boxing glove and it says a big fat auto right. They're both at this free. Okay so like I said yesterday is coming. ESPN yeah and you got a no no no no no anyway your tons up you got a boomerang listen listen listen listen listen. The APP is free. ESPN is ninety nine there their free. You download it but you can't get ESPN plus without paying for ninety nine per month. This APP is free. They do have content four free. The the pay per view can be ordered within the APP. If you haven't pressed one we can get you on the show on blog talk we're going to boomerang. Cyp La late. Good Morning. I'm going to agree with the thank you say something. I'm good. No that's the whole thing about being whatever you know. What's funny? Is that Harrison Toronto. Fight off the whole time. The same thing that took an hour to set for something over something if you get three different Jefferson light aggression power punches. Challah wins nobody. The article was written to the crowd and award was boy decision to convey. Believe follow did enough to win. It's hard to justify comparison even though not a wipeout that were going on at the actual automatically Yagi marina better snacks Albert Doodoo Bite. Somebody out who who for angry all these there chocolates are just ridiculous. I don't like the kind of person so Louise Bid Successful Summit when he moved when he comes in California you get three different not by the same exact way in just thought that stop near John. Eighteen in people qualify. Whatever works works? I'm COCO's people who are saying ever made you successful do that jockey. Pittsburgh admitted all all the more you want when he wins the REMEK. Don't say Gulf attitude should is who is he taking in a rematch. Met Fellow angry. I think they came off. But you know whatever he's in certainly Tavares senior ethics got a super check coming from scat ranch. Bradman so great. You guys should get them back on. I thought scam ranch was from the UK that Super Chetta's dollars. Being maybe got crypto May Be could you connect to your youtube. Oh I'm talking about okay. We go on out to Josh New Orleans Josh Good Morning Good Morning I always like Oh oh boy and abuses gives some real sal in the jaw X.. y'All think about the final die. Fight Question I I asked him I I read the same. He said if you believe it was a pretty much smoking dope we the same but I'm just interpreted how I interpreted. I'd get some shit then because I still believe that she was a diving avenue shakes me. Hey you've been a bit of a hater. Hey I've been one and I'm going to stay one. Let me re tweeted to your quick talking when you find that you going back. Okay now quick like right interview I like to do. y'All drop some bombs Good he's not like a good trae Not just like energy like C. Y.. P. Said I think he does. No he won't be fighting mail Next fight and stuff like that and I'm looking forward to let it. He signed the contract day rocket redeem himself against the other cello. 'cause he was out boxing Jamal into Jamal. Khan without I think with the uppercut yet up. It cuts down on night night so you get a chance to fight other child who is indisposed. Strong is Jamal so like I say I look. I'm looking forward to. I don't think it's going to be Harrison Harrison tonight when I fight and he was actually given that decision I had shown winning that fight eat with his temples and aggression and approach it a robotic box. Jeez talk to us. Jesus done dropped off. Well you on one did Jesus and sues out all right. We're going Steve. Talk to me the morning morning. Guys how you guys doing a national you. They're not just want to say Thank you I wasn't able to catch it live the last night I caught your interview and for all those guys out there. They think I'm crazy. I don't know what I'm talking about. Go check out. The interview did with Charles IOS trainer and see what I was talking about yesterday morning but anyways I just wanted to say on. Why older He's boggling man like you said or he got let them keep winning a wilder fan and I I think he's he's you know he's gone places he's gotTa keep weather. Yeah we got a patient a little bit and You know I love how. PBC trace their fighters. I love they let the boxers. I run the show I just love. BBC's doing with Fox you know. I don't need Eddie hearn and Bob Arum and husker telling me Shit I just love that format that. BBC Has. And I'm all all right. Well Steve Man thanks for calling in. Okay Steve where are you from. I'm I'm just outside of Chicago Indiana but it's like I'm in I'm in what they call the armpit of Indiana okay. Tom Plums and Florida. Yes Sir so on like I said the Super Ah Yup wages eleven all week long. And he's he's not he's not GonNa fix the statement blitz. I'm just calling Nancy Kinda like round year. I forgot forgot what I heard somebody call him a couple of callers ago and I really got nothing to say about this topic. I'm just calling to basically start telling people stop stop using the same old cliche narrative when somebody get knocked out they say oh. This person was out boxing. This bird city. I'm not like you no matter fight. Somebody got knocked out and I'm sorry not everybody stands stuff like that. 'cause it's annoying takes away from imprisonment that not when you say. Oh he was getting off until he said nothing so I just wanted people to stop saying it so much because it's overused in. It's annoying so that everybody thinks when a pledge of not somebody out do not bucks because they just narrative that people be go is of. I won't stop staring at select. Well all right he plumbs. Thanks for calling in we got. PBC missed the on a boomerang. Boom I watched And the face off and stuff does I think Press conference whatever that was Grand Grand Lenovo and That was they water. Came in there and did the same thing like the first one you know yelled out that bomb squad right next to her teeth rattle a little bit. This is GonNa be a five man. I'll pay hundred eighty bucks assessment. Ain't going to be getting no chicken. I'm definitely watching the fight eating after done that slice or you could just it before. Yeah it's true. Should I can't wait for this is going to be bigger than CAN I. Don't even EH couple months. That's my call. Networks can cost C. Y. P.. Bouma vein no what I was saying Ed Chavez Great fighter I love I love the warrior elitist These fights for his first forty five and nobody said we're where's he been by because when gap year that motherfucker put on a show. Nobody cared with Momo Doma was level with an average is fighting due to it never return professional robot interior because we got to show the stew so when you see Robert Home Heating identitat. Tummy's not going to shut up. When people people bring the Amundsen mighty makes ticket sales? They get you only say lose Mohammed Ali. They talk about money he may Roy del talk about that. Uh of award in talking about that. She only do that. Can lose resolve bringing up money it takes. It is like busy money. Academic Shame Shame Loyd hotter muscle but activate women so reasonable accurate talked about. We'll be excited. But if he was undefeated he waiting to be made to tell US collect selected move onto the next phone. Its second by boy. People want me to fight meaty agree some research Act Abbotabad. They want me. Who had never seen Eh five million instead of you? That may they got you boy. Nobody believed in. You need do not here you are. They don't believe it'll be a whole lot. Snyder could be out. Yeah so I'm actually take somewhere and cover nike man and see if we could get him on. I don't know how busy he he is If not that is the last caller so yeah man. It'd be good to get his thoughts. I and plus. We could see what he thinks about that. a call out from Your good friend Dominic Brazil. Okay Yeah Man. Yeah I mean we always come back. You know delayed on. We'll do that. We'll come back. I'll let him hit me up and schedule schedule reschedule or something like that But Yemen as Geo instagram twitter geographic. Nine eleven or on twitter. We want the two win father. The Youtube Mike Own Sports. He's at right now. When you come in and switch to t mobile you get the amazing iphone? Eleven pro on us with iphone. Tennis trade-in aren't aren't these mountains. Majestic Joe are you even looking. I'm posting these amazing pictures. I took with my iphone. Eleven pro it has three cameras low those pigs armies and you have service to t mobile. 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2020 Lookahead with NewYorkRic

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2020 Lookahead with NewYorkRic

"Turn it back in your life on this Wednesday January two thousand twenty Logan everyone one area Hawaii welcome back to the program. It is good to be back on a Wednesday afternoon here in New York City. Back in the swing of things if you will. We are getting geared up for you. See to forty six on January. Eighteenth return of the notorious Conor McGregor up against Donald cerrone. You know about all of that. We had the awards awards. Show the seventh annual Halawani knows awards on Monday and dare I say best one yet. Dare I say most talked about one yet. It may be even most controversial one yet. It was a lot of fun. I appreciate everyone who tuned in. Who sent in their thoughts? Good or bad if you agree with me cool. If you don't cool I I just care that you watch and that you're interested in what I have to say and again these were just my awards. How why it's named after my darn knows? Everyone just calmed down. But I appreciate the interest and the passion so as you know as I said We we've been doing this for seven years. Seventh Annual Two Thousand Nineteen version and back in the old days. NEOM may our days at the end of the show near Recogni would actually give out the following year's awards we would say who we think is going to be the male fighter of the year. We think is going to be the female fighter of the the fight to watch the falling year. Maybe even the story to watch the following year yearbook on Monday we wanted to keep it all for the most part centered around things that happened in nineteen but I said at the end of the show that we would look ahead to the twenty twenty on today's show and now that we get to two shows every week this was the perfect way to split it up so Late last year I was away on vacation. ACACIA my family and TST being the tremendous producer that he is sent me a very long document very long very detailed document about you. Know the highs and lows of this past year ear and the good things that we did the numbers all that stuff and one thing that really stood out to me. This is no joke. One thing that stood out was the people want more near Creek. And it's interesting because when I first came. ESPN and being honest I was sort of you know I was encouraged. Less near Craig knows time to move on but here are the people loyal to their guy. He has always been the people's guy. If you will the people psychic they have demanded more. Near Creeks of this show is just going to be New York Rick me and a little. TSE as well talking about the year ahead we have put twenty nineteenth bed. We are now focus solely on twenty twenty and we are going to focus this entire show on what we usually did at the end of the award. Show in that is focused on the year to come so without further ado near Rick how are you. I'm doing well my friend and can I say before I inevitably rip apart everything you say later in the show. How touched I cam for the people support and how special and and how honored I am to be a part of this now? Second leg of the awards we've graduated. Did you know from the most comprehensive and most thorough awards show In the sport and maybe an all sports and maybe an olive awards. Yes I agree to. Now how having a second leg extension for our our look to twenty twenty It's truly fantastic and I'm very happy for you. Dare I say It's a bit of a throwback if you it's a bit of a crush first edition if you WANNA get that Hashtag back a good time. It's a it's a great time in history so this mutual admiration society is now over it. It ends right this second because I have a bone to pick with you my friend quivering. You Stab me in the back on Monday and I'm going there and breaking the fourth wall you stab me in the back tell the people how you stab me in the back. Go ahead tell them. I made for great viewing. But you stabbed me in the back. I'm not actually aware you're going to have to fill these listen. I was agonizing over these picks for months months since November. Maybe even since October I knew it was coming I knew izzy and Maswadeh. We're going head to head. I knew Captain Eric and Eugene. We're going head to head. I knew Zhongwei Alien Amanda Nunez. We're GONNA hit the head and I relied on your friendship. I weighed in on what you had to say. I took it too hard. I thought about it. I digested posted it. And you gave me advice and I use that advice to make my decisions and then you come on the show on Monday and you went against all my picks you stab me in the back either off. Okay here's the thing. Either you were leading me down the wrong path for that moment or you're being truthful privately and then you stab me in the back. So which is I'm going to deny I all of those allegations and I'm going to say that look you made some bad picks and that's okay I've made a bad pick or two in the past. Maybe famously maybe maybe not or infamously is. Let's call it But that's okay. Sometimes you make the wrong call. And that's why I'm there to correct you and that's why they had end of the show to to bring it all home I will deny to to till the end of our days that I lead you astray or give you bad advice in only give good advice so then you stab me in the back. So so here's the thing Let's suggests a couple of them just off the top. I know I talked about looking ahead but first we have to put the show on Monday yet. Really Tabet The first one that got a lot of heat about was John Wiley over. Mandela's it has. I think you're right. I think a lot of people actually think that the Nunez CYBORG fight happened last year because it happened at the very very end of two thousand eighteen. They were both both to and they were both two zero and twenty nineteen and one of them John Way Lee beat her opponent in the title fight in forty two seconds completely clearly starched just gone drudge. And yes. She made history first Chinese files but forget about that she starched just judge in forty two seconds. A pit bull a bulldozer dozer a like tank. She just ran right through her and she also bt stores Okay Great menounos awesome. You be highly home tremendous. You knocked her out. I personnel. May I'm not taking anything away. Germain Durrani great win. Didn't get a Finnish cool but like to say that it's absolutely egregious to say that it's a crime. I'm to say that it was a robbery to not give the new. This one baffles me. This is the coin flip if there ever was one both wins were tremendous for both fighters I think Teasha towards the very good fighter fighter. And I think that's being overlooked a little bit. There is no circumstance where this is an outright travesty. Unless you are including that win oversight I work unless you have misremembered. That fight happened at the very very tail end of twenty eighteen and not in two thousand nineteen. There's not an argument to be made that We lose Yang is a is a is a bad pick. Amanda Nunez's an equally good pick. I think it's a very tough selection to be made. But unless you are including that Cyborg win. It's hard to say that this was An outright Mistake and in fact I agree with you. I think we Zhang earned that so. That was a tough one but I wasn't expecting anyone to really get all fired up about honestly I was like okay. People would weigh in but this one they were all so upset also fended all right whatever. They're both who no I don't carry people say now. The next one male fighter of the year again very tough the two main ones three and now right and look you could go back and forth you know in hindsight could use. Could you make a very strong case for this. Scenario scenario is he wins. Fighter of the year Maswadeh all wins comeback. Mas Well wins most improved. Maybe that's the most logical fair thing but I just felt like like Mazda in addition to being comeback and most improved and. I don't think anyone disagree with that. I just felt like it was the year of Mazda Doll. Like he was just the biggest story from the moment when he agreed to fight till till the end of the year against a D. as his story and I gave him story of the year as well. The resurrection of just was a constant throughout the year now at SNL was tremendous the win over Gasoline was incredible theater. The win over Anderson was kind of a passing the torch. Wasn't you know the the it wasn't the greatest fight it it was somewhat close. Maybe closer than it should have been in the win over Whitaker's gay but again very close and yeah you can say the deciding factors real belt versus fake belt now K.. Fine but but this one all live within easy pick. I can't live with US Suharto pick. I'm sorry you're twice as opposed to two guys who fought three three times in all had big fights who wasn't wasn't very happy actually sent me a message and told me that I could say it on the air but I don't I don't have the audio here. He's like a voice Henry. Pseudo semi a six-minute voice note first of all voice notes needs to be at least one minute. I can't listen to six minutes most at the most. Excuse me the most one minute. A Very acceptable is like fifteen twenty seconds. A minute is fine. Six minutes is just agrees. Simi a six-minute voice. No breaking down all all those other guys fights like you said Anderson's washed up. He said gasoline is just kind of like you know really a one seventy pounder who's moonlighting one eighty five. which I thought was interesting? Since they're boys right yeah And then whitaker who hasn't fought and is largely injured so he's like totally diminished diminish those fights and then he goes to. Maseru says he knocked out a guy who had just been finished by turn. Will the was Kinda damaged goods. Then he beats the over hyped aspirin. Okay all right. Knock at your Kurgan that but like really who the hell's spin aspirin and NHTSA is a five hundred. Fighter has double digit losses. Like what was so great about that. I beat the greatest bantamweight of all time. In his words. He says on E. P. O.. And then I beat Marlon. Reis was on a roll L. Amazing but unfortunately twelve months in a year and you only fought for six months so I have a hard time giving it to you. He cannot win it but I will say this. I actually believe this. If he had fought one more time funded brand beat nearly anybody and that division he probably wins the award Because those two wins as he was arguing were tremendously impressive. Impressive if he wins one. More fight doesn't matter who nearly. Maybe I mean anybody in the top ten and I'd probably give it to him to be honest. I couldn't agree more one more fight even if it's against I don't know Throughout a guy throw it like a mid Tier Banteay to mid-tier flyway one more fight. He gets it or at least as in very strong consideration. Unfortunately he's in the use Mon- Patricia pit bull category. Where it's like you know guys fought twice and You're just one notch below okay. So everyone's all right up but then we get to coach of the year and this one was an interesting so I give it to Eugene Behrman. Who a lot of people a lot of other media outlets gave it to Eugene Behrman? And I don't I think that was a crazy pit. Considering the fact that they went eleven and one and the two champions and people are trying to discredit him for saying outspoken off. Ski Isn't a fulltime member of city kickboxing even though will cannot skis. These career took a massive step when he went to city kickboxing and not only working with Eugene Berman. But rebels is striking coach as well. Of course he's he's training in Australia with Joe Lopez and he deserves a lot of credit but the win and the year he had and the year that hooker had and Kai Car France prior to the loss and rebel Dell in the AFC A- A lot of people are saying okay. It's fine give it to bear minutes okay. But what's making me get. All this hate is the fact that and I'm just saying stuff that actually happened. Captain watched our entire show via his instagram. And I was waiting to get the award a mental lot to him and was very upset when he didn't get the award so let me just say something right here now. I have the utmost respect for not only Henry Pseudo despite his pretty stupid tweets to me over the last couple of days and Dan Captain Eric. I've been talking about those guys. I've been pumping them up. I've had them on my show repeatedly before you know who's manager stopped him from coming on the show back into the year. I am always happy to talk to those guys and I think they deserve all the credit all the love all the accolades the world. It's not the worst spot to be into number two or number three and I'm sorry if he feels feels like you know he had it in the bag deserve to have an an an. I robbed him of that but at the end of the day is one stupid man's opinion and being number two to I who is incredibly isn't the worst spot and it hurts. I've reached out to him twice tax. Phone he won't respond. He always respond within seconds and it part of me is sad about this. Artemis honored that they care so much I mean who thought six years ago Emma Mayor Awards that anyone would care as much as they care about this and so I just want to say I'm I'm honored and I thank them for Caring and I'm also sorry they feel this way but the end of the day I didn't WanNa have any co-winners I didn't want it to be like the nineteen ninety-five NBA rookie of the year. Work is that really bothered bothered me as a thirteen year old that they gave it to both grant hill and Jason Kidd. You got to pick a winner. Had to make a tough choice. But it doesn't mean I don't think they're incredible doesn't mean I don't think they had an amazing year doesn't immune I don't have the utmost respect for both them in what they have done and Captain Eric in particular deserves a ton of credit for not just being a tremendous coach but for being a tremendous showman and a guide and janitor to his fighters like he helped craft the triple C. personality Paolo Costa's going from Shiite cost the pit bull doing his thing like he's a brilliant mind and it bums me out that he's so mad but in the end I just have to look at the facts and I feel like Behrman just had like a notch above like it's so small just just a slightly better year. I'm GonNa say two things you handled all of that very nicely. Encapsulated Awhile first thing when it comes to determining coach of the year if we're going to get into a game game where it's like this coaches thirty five percent responsible for this fighter in this coaches seventy-five percent responsible for this fighter. Nobody's ever going to win this award. It's going to be silly. We if if this person is coached by this by if this fighter is coached by this coach and adverse. They're part of that Jim. That is enough that we can't get into this game where all of a sudden sudden were determining how much of their coaching is responsible for the fighters output. Secondly I would say you've been very Fair to cap the NARC over over over the course of this year he had a tremendous year. You've said that many times in writing on radio on podcast and what it what it says about these awards is that no matter or how agonizing you are willing to choose who you think is the rightful winner. I think people have to live with the results of that. Unfortunately Captain Eric is taking a very personally I I do believe he had a great year. As do you But Eugene Barons Year was the superior year and we just have to move on from that. Yeah and I want people to know like this probably means a whole lot more to captain Captain Eric than it does Eugene like you. Gene is probably annoyed that he had to come on my show and it probably would have been a hell of a lot easier to just give it to captain air. 'cause I never would have heard from Eugene. He doesn't WanNa talk to the media. He doesn't WanNa be on shows. And I know it would meant so much to Captain Eric. But that's not what I'm doing. I see people calling like pseudo. Himself is calling the brown nose awards if it was the brown nose awards. I would have given to you guys because I know how much it meant to you guys but I had to make the tough choices. It means a lot to me. I know I joke about it being named after my nose I get that but like it really does mean a lot of I take this very seriously when I see people who care and how much it means to them. It really means a lot to me and I wanna take it seriously now. I WANNA put all my time and attention into picking the right winner. I I really I ask ask you. I talked to people like Capozza talked to Robert Sergeant of MMA rising people who I really respect In the end you have to make the tough choice. But I hope it's not personal and I. I hope that we could still be you know acquaintances and be professional and You know there's always next year as the Brooklyn dodgers like to say so. Speaking of next year let's transition to next year. Let's transition to twenty twenty and let's start talking about some of the things that you know. We like to talk about at the end of these award shows. But we're going to talk about on today's podcast which I'm excited about first. Let's start with fights sites that have to happen in two thousand twenty now. There's no there's no limit to these. And here's the only caveat that I'll throw out it can't be booked so you can't pick Habib Ferguson. That's book we all want that to happen. It's probably the fight that we all want to see the most because they booked it four times and it's just a tremendous fight between the two best lightweights on the planet. But if you're picking a fight here it can't be on the books that can't be scheduled to be close to done like is your marrow doesn't even count as well because that's on the verge of being being done. So are there fights in your opinion that have to happen that you need to see in two thousand twenty. Oh there are plenty. How would you like to do this? Do we alternate what he wanted to give me your listen. I'll give you my old. I'm giving you my whole list list right. I've got along one. Oh asked me for five. Yeah I've got ten. Oh my gosh all right here we go. These are not in order on. These are not in order. I'm equally interested. In all of these Conor McGregor versus Nate Diaz. Three need to see this in two thousand twenty Tyron Woodley versus Colby Covington need. I need to see this in two thousand twenty or Hamas Vidal Versus Colby. Covington need to see this or Hey Mazda. Elvis's Liane Edwards. We need to get an end of this three piece in the soda. Saga Habib Naronha made versus Conor McGregor to I need the rematch. Now we get into these are I would say those first five or my absolute and then these next five are after but I I need them. All Paulo cost versus Israel to Sonya the fight that were not getting. Because he's on the shelf. Darren Silvers Robert Whittaker. I'm convinced by Darren tells instagram game. Were just dropping into everything asking rob. I'm convinced I need to see that. Fight is very entertaining. macy Barbara versus page eight Van Zandt patrons and is now a free agent but well no. She's one more after this guy that she has booked upcoming will be a free agent. I need that fight. It needs to happen and Daniel Cormie versus John Jones. I need a third fight between those three and then my last one. A bit of a cheat Tatyana Suarez versus anybody. I I just need her to be back. I need to see her fighting the octagon. Wow that's a lot and those are all great like I can't poke any holes. Although I do feel like you're I mean there's there's a hobby connor to a lot has to go right so when you say you need to see that. That means you're saying that he's GonNa win twice probably before gained a third and when you say eh here's where it gets. Tricky when you say nate connor three and also Habib Connor to are you living in a world where all these things kind of flow from one to one like domino comino in other words are you saying Congo's from ceremony to nate to Habib. It's possible I mean I could see a world let's say cowboy Wins conor versus nate makes a ton of sense at that point now if ceremony wins. Connor nate makes a lot of set out with really go to connor. It makes sense but you've been against the idea of connor loses connor getting Mas Vidal. I'm okay with millions. I'm okay with that But I could see a world where all of a sudden it's connor verses Nate and then and they're just itching to put McGregor back into a fight with Habib. It doesn't really matter if all. This is nate. In my opinion. I mean would you disagree that they'd be willing to do that. I would say they are. I mean yeah he he could probably even get the. If if if the schedules lined up he could have gone the hubby fight after turnover ceremony. Yeah I mean Dana was pretty much said that. Yep It's not GonNa Lineup he's GonNa WanNa fight in between and that's why I think it's either if he loses to ceremony then. He gets nate if he beats ceremony. Then they'll probably try to fight. And that's why Mas with all is waiting to see what happens with that fight. I will take either of those fights Conor McGregor very interested. There's a a lot there and I like them all. I'm surprised you didn't say one in particular which I'll start with this one DC steep a three. That fight has to happen in my opinion. That's the retirement fight. DC needs to move on with his life. He needs to move on with his career and he really like in many ways. I feel like the steepest. Deepak fight has almost become more personal for him than the Jones fight. I even saw on twitter talking recently about Jones fight. When it was the anniversary of the first one he was almost talking about it in an ongoing way and that was the one where where he lost four rounds to one I feel like mentally? He's kind of moved on John Jones and he's moved on from just that whole feud and reverend the bad blood and I feel like Jones in some respects although he pokes him sometimes. has kind of moved on as well. DC St pay feels unresolved. It's one one trilogy. He he was supposed to retire. Like there's a part of DC in the back of his mind. Now I have no doubt he's like I could have been done. I could have walked away perfectly. I could've walked away with the belt. I would have been undefeated feet it as a heavyweight champion and I ruined it and it was going so well I was looking so good in that fight and then for whatever reason you know he was able to chop me down via the body. I just want to get this. He wanted to fight on December fourteenth and the UFC was gonna put him as the main event especially when Houston Covington were having their troubles. As far as their contract contract negotiations are concerned he was gonNA fight in the main event of that card and so the career could have been over already. Would that third fight already done. But of course steep has the I. Entry and they're trying. Here's here's the interesting thing. They're trying to make this happen. But where is it going to happen because March is probably going to be easy versus Romero if they can get that done both chairman and and and is he said on Monday. That essentially the goal didn't use that term. But they're just finalizing a few things and that's what I've heard as well Romero's on board. Of course he he I mean he would be foolish to not be on board and then in May historically they go to Brazil. And that's what I'm hearing as well June might be Australia. So we waiting till July to DC steepen. Does he WANNA wait. Wait that long. I think at this point he will because you know Robert January but then now we're talking about the return of Connor's well maybe kind of comes back in August. Who knows all I'm saying is I need to see that fight? So he can just move on with his career. Speaking of Conor McGregor I agree with you. Connor threes fight that. I want to see happen at some point. I feel like like slowly but surely we're kind of moving away from that fight being as important as it could have been a couple of years ago so I feel like this is a good year to make it happen. Especially when he says He. He wants to fight Three times this year Mazda is a fight that I want to happen and I really should be a little more A little more clear Mazda. Fighting for the belt I think would be a great story in twenty twenty He's been in the game now for seventeen years the finally fight for the belt. I think it would be amazing. I understand and I appreciate the fact by the way they. He's being honest about the fact. That hey a fight over conor McGregor for me a fight against Conor McGregor. I should say is a much bigger fight. It's a money flight. I'm all about prize fighting about making the most amount of money and especially making up for time but at some point I'd like to fight for the belt as well and this is why Muslim quick tangent. The reason I love is because he's the real deal I know he won the B. The NFL but really he should be the R F. He should be the realist in the game as well. Because I'm so tired of all these people every time. Connor says someone's name then they come back. Oh go to the back of the line. Oh you've got to go beat some guys. Oh I'm going to ruin your career. You don't want any of this smoke. You know what I'm talking about. Did all these people do. Come on guys you all get so excited sighted when Connor says your name and rightfully so because he's the biggest round the game he's the most lucrative fight out there. He's the biggest draws far as popularity is concerned as far as money is concerned. That's what this whole game is all about. And he elevates if you fight him when he says your name you get excited so stop pretending like this isn't a big deal for you. Stop playing hard to get at least Mazda was like yeah of course take that fight happily even though it doesn't really make sense. Of course I've taken nephew doesn't want it. I'm going to move on and fight for the boat but I just appreciate the fact that he's just real about the whole situation and not playing being the stupid game where it's like. Oh yeah go back to you know fighting the contenders and may be then after three win. Now Stop It. Everyone including will be. We'll take that fight right away. There's even a term for it called called the Red Panty night conor McGregor. Yeah Yeah and it's still exists until further notice. It's still exists. It's not going away now. If he loses three in a row this year are I mean we can. We can revisit that but right now it's still exists all right so I gave you. DC St Bay. I told you about her native. told you by Moslems who spent two others that I wanNA mention izzy Kosta. I agree with you. Hundred hundred percent. Is he cost. That would be the second time in. UFC history that two male fighters were undefeated are fighting for the belt. If of course you know they they. They remain undefeated which we suspect that they they would if they would meet up at some point. I think it'd be huge. Loved the dynamic between them. I love the trash talk. It's a lot of fun I'm bummed. It's not happening next but I WANNA see that fighting twenty twenty and here's one more that I'll throw out your way and I love the other ones that you said till whitaker would be amazing all that stuff but one more that I want to see in twenty twenty is John Jones versus any heavyweight. I don't even care it. Is I want to see John. Jones fight heavyweight twenty twenty. I don't care if it's a surreal gun. I don't care if it's a Alan crowder. I don't care if it's I duNno Volkov. I don't know if I want to see him. Fight for the bill because I think that there are other guys who probably deserve it and I honestly WanNa see them go away from the champion versus champion like this last thing pseudo has pretty much soured me for good. The idea being a double champion in hindsight gets gets watered down and kind of get soiled in my opinion when months later you are stripped of one of the belts. It's useless and I have a lot of respect for Nunez for wanting to be an active double champion but I just WanNa see John Jones test. The waters dip his toe in the heavy-water. Why did they think he'd be happy up there? So those are the five that come to mind. You mentioned being surprised that I didn't have DC and coach on my list. It's because I see that as an appetizer I see that as an appetizer for the entree. That is John Jones versus digital cornea. It's really think that's A. That's that's a thing I don't even feel like it's a thing anymore. I'll tell you how to thing. Okay maybe the segues into into some of the things. We'll talk about next but heavyweight wait championship Daniel This goes Daniel Ramirez Way. Your Dandruff Gourmet. You're now the heavyweight champion. You're weighing. Do I walkaway is this. It is at my sticking to my word and retiring after one more now. We already know. He's he said he would retire when he turned forty and didn't stick. That extended the window a little bit. I think there's one thing that can get you out of bed and I think that that is a fight with John Jones and here's where it gets even more interesting. I I think for me. It would be willing to go down to light heavyweight to fight John Jones and I know that you're saying that he does cooled off. I think they could turn that boiler back on any second would get right back back to where it was but it could also be a situation where all of a sudden John Jones is looking at the heavyweight division and he doesn't seem too keen to jump up there I he's talked about it the. US has talked about it but it hasn't happened yet and it's not like there's a glut of contenders at light heavyweight. That are making John Jones stick around really. Isn't anything that interesting at light heavyweight for him. It seems to me like he's waiting for the right fight at heavyweight and I'll tell you what will be a great fight for John Jones. A heavyweight is a guy that he's already beaten twice named Daniel Cormet who's holding a strap strap that will make him the double champion. So I'm seeing a world where Daniel Gourmet beats deep amyotrophic and John Jones fights Daniel Cornea heavyweight for the heavyweight. Anyway title. Well it's a it's essentially the scenario that we were talking about how he wanted August. Yup like all of us believe aright he wins. They're gonNA throw boatload of money his way and he's GonNa stick around for this last fight and this is the way it's going to end for him I think the fact that he lost a nice sticking around almost a year longer than he wanted and who knows when this steep a fight actually happens. I feel like his family is just going to be like if you if he wins right if he wins this this third fight if they actually do it. Please stop. You don't need to do this anymore. You're ending on a good note. I think the fact that it was take that Cinderella ending was taken away from him. I think he gets H. He'll just be like all right. I'm good I would love to believe believe that because I want to have that kind of sendoff. Yeah I don't believe it. I believe that he could. He could get up for John Jones fight and I think he would get up for John Jones fight and I think John John Jones would get up for a Daniel cormet heavyweight title fight. I think that that is the scenario that envisioned all right. So let's okay so let's transition you said it's a good segue is a perfect segue to some bold predictions bull predictions for twenty twenty This could be anything you want. You want me to start on this aisle start on this one I'll give view a few and then you give me a few as we could go back. How many do you have five all right? I probably have a couple more but I get sick to five while all right. Here's one four you zoo for boxing. Boxing will never be a thing. They will not be a thing. We're approaching the three year history. Excuse me the three anniversary of this even becoming a thing a term if you will what's what's taking so long now maybe I should clarify. It won't be a thing in twenty twenty never who never is a strong word I mean the XFL coming back eighteen years later like who could have predicted that but this year. It's not a thing too much going on There's too many expenses. What's the point and this idea? I get frustrated with the idea that Dana White can save boxing. Boxing doesn't need to be saved. Boxing is doing very well. Boxing has many different platforms. That it's airing on these days and the fighters are making and a lot of money and they're very happy for the most part now. The fans may not be so happy. Because it's a little more disjointed with several other players involved but they don't need Dana White to come say boxing foxing. This idea is completely flawed. And I don't know if he will be met with the kind of reception that he met with. Maybe he has already felt that. And that's why it's not becoming a thing but can we stop talking about it like it's a thing until it becomes a thing. It's getting a little tiring for me. I love that I'm sick of it myself. I'm sick of hearing about it. Can I ask you to follow. Of course yes question number one just for the entirety these predictions. These are things that were predicting four. Two Thousand Twenty specifically right like super boxing could become a thing. But you're just saying in twenty minutes. Yeah Yeah secondarily. Does that mean that there will not be a UFC slash Dana white and floyd mayweather thing independent of soup zoo for boxing. You know I'm not convinced that that's a real thing as well that's going to happen now. Is there a world where floyd comes back to fight and the UFC Z.. Slash Zoo Slash Dana White lend some promotional muscle to it. Yeah I guess. Is that really super boxing. That was never now. That was not the idea of zoo for boxing. Let's let's be honest like they could stick that logo on the same way. They stuck zoo for boxing on Mayweather McGregor but that was in Suva box. We all know what to do for boxing was supposed to be and what we were told it was going to be in. That's not it and it's not the floyd fight as well So even if that does happen I still feel like I'm right in the end. The other part doesn't happen. I mean I. I don't even know if that's really and I saw my colleague who I loved Dearly Marker Money Talk About Floyd and I'm like first of all there's no sane person on this planet that actually thinks floyd is gonna GonNa fight in a moment right now. Those same person Fighting a boxing pure pack. Yeah someone like that. He's not gonNA fight like an aerospace or someone like that or a Terence Crawford but you know when one one of the older guys. Sure I just even if Dana White is involved as far as promotional. I still view that as UFA boxing for the men that has handled his career about as perfectly as you could ever handle. Handle it from a from a boxing perspective. I'm not gonNA talk about personal issues but from a boxing perspective in Floyd Mayweather to all of a sudden at the end of his career after multiple retirements to decide. Oh this is the time. I'm going to test the waters in MMA. You'd have to be foolish to think that that was even a real scenario. Okay let me give you a couple of other ones the UFC slash reebok relationship. Relationship will come to an officially comes to end next year but it will be clear by the end of this year. That they're going their separate ways to bowl prediction for twenty twenty another ball prediction action. Bela Tor will air on either. CBS and or Showtime Twenty Twenty and they will move on from the paramount network and they will air on CBS and or showtime. Oh time in twenty twenty does follow up. Does that change the zone relationship There's still a couple years left on that one but no it doesn't change Gitte it. Just in my opinion will reinvigorate Baltimore. It will get them to be a little more aggressive as far as free agency is concerned. I think they're gonNA try to make a splash whenever that time comes. I think it's good for the sport. Have some big platforms involved and I think you will see them become what one was a couple years ago to as far as like going after. I think you'll start to see them. Try to get some games to try to be a little more To beef up the roster a little more as they make that transition position another one. It won't happen in twenty twenty but it will be announced that the UFC go to Africa in twenty twenty one. You feel me. I love that and I'll throw one more for you John Jones. We'll fight at heavyweight interesting. One I have on like that. It will be no secret having just talked about it. I think heavyweight champion Daniel Army will fight light heavyweight champion Jon Jones now. I'm leaving myself a little bit of wiggle room. I'm I'm not saying which division this will happen in but I do believe that those two will square off either at heavyweight light heavyweight Because I do think there's a world John says I'm still not moving up to heavyweight. Come down onto fight me Daniel Courtney and I do see him taking that fight no matter what the competitor and him is just not knowing. You know we've seen DC on the stage for so long long. I think we know what kind of competitor is I think if he can get a shot of John Jones. He's going to take no matter. What second one Tatyana Suarez becomes? UFC champion now. I think this is his bold or older than potentially you know initially imagined just because she's been dealing with injury I think she will come back later in the year and she will be the new. UFC Strawberry Shaba champion after looking like it was saved in the previous year. Oh UFC's flyweight division is going to be shuttered and that's not all folks. I believe that women's featherweight is going with a UFC divisions men's flyweight women's featherweight are going to be shuttered this year. I just don't see what is happening there i. I don't see a future. They have now announced flyweight title fight. I don't believe that it will make these divisions will make it to the end of the year and by the way just to interrupt quickly we actually just debated this on air on the bad guy so who deserves credit for saving it but maybe in the end he only saved temporarily because him not sticking around the reason why was saved was because Oh the reigning defending champion. Is this very charismatic. Fun Guy that everyone wants to see fight all of a sudden he beat the gold at one twenty five Dimitrios Johnson but if he's no longer in the equation where essentially in the same spot as we were before that dillashaw fight which is a relationship with no real face no real big star carrying the baton I agree with you like the all of a sudden. In the moment they announced that fight it was like okay. Cool a pseudo. This is confirmation that he did temporarily save it because otherwise they would have to shut it down but what is the future I feel like the future is just as murky. It was before all this happened. Was I like the way you think I'll give you my last two because you could have a few more on the back. I've only got my five Jordan burroughs. we'll sign with an MA promotion this you think you'll get off You know the Olympic run and he will decide that he is going into MMA and then lastly my number five Bella tour which you're predicting predicting will be on a different network is going to adopt the one hundred sixty five pound and one hundred seventy five pound weight classes as this especially. I think makes sense if they're going to new network a little. Oh new shine to this you say. Hey we're debut with a one hundred sixty five pound on one hundred seventy five pound maybe tournament. Maybe a round robin type thing. There's there's some fun that could be had if they're willing to change the way classes a little bit so I'm thinking Delatour is GonNa take a shot at that. Wow that's something. That would be really smart for them to do. Because one of the things that I feel like and it's not quite as impactful as what I'm about to say was in the old strikeforce days but one thing that really helped him in strikeforce was they had something. You didn't have yup women. They don't have that anymore. They can't claim that so they could be the place where. Hey you WANNA fight a 165 175 come to us. I like that one and the boroughs one is fascinating as well. Well he's probably going to go for the Olympics. I'm no amateur wrestling KUNA sir but I think he's GonNa try out for the two thousand twenty games but that doesn't stop him or preclude him from signing with someone much like Iron Pico did Prior to the what Twenty Sixteen Games. So that's Yeah I love. We'll we'll also be post that at a certain point this year. That's true that's true and then you you can decide now. Guess what all of a sudden we've got another 'EM AFICIONADO on the team. TST Who exactly your go probably didn't even know what Ma stood stood for certainly not what. US's for he has informed me that he has some bold predictions as well. Is that correct. I do. I've got some predictions first of all just like he always has since the day he got into the UFC Israel Adesanya four fights this year. We'll clean out the middleweight division. Like he's predicted. I don't know the order but Paolo Costa Daring till Jerry Cannon. Near Yoel Romero when that gets both he's GonNa fight him he's going to win in two thousand twenty. Can I just say I'm sitting here listening. Hugh rifle off those names like a proud father because I mean I would even say six months ago. You didn't know who these people were. And now you're just killing it. You're killing the game or here's some more names. Here's my prediction. My Guy Colby Covington will be back. He will have the welterweight belt by the end of twenty twenty he he could take Woodley Moskvy Doll Edwards. RDA IF McGregor makes it into wealth rate somehow Colby COVINGTON. We'll have raped by the in two thousand twenty. The how do we feel about. The fact acted he's mentioning two of his favorite fighters Z.. Z. Picking is he making predictions here with his harder mind. You know what I'm looking into his eyes right now and I've never been more sure that somebody was the shore of their predictions. This man is fired up. This man believes every word he's saying and you know what I buy it I by by what he is selling right now. They're not crazy you know they're not crazy. I would say they're bold though to be able to say that A champion is going to be four. Different people This year there's there's no There's nothing soft about that prediction. I I am buying it. These are bold predictions. Well the only two I do have one more unrelated. MMA but it's big youth thing I've a prediction that area who wanna we'll do sidelines nights for an NBA playoff game this year. Wow Wow I appreciate that. This is just you buttering me. I mean we're almost got another game by the way on January. Twenty four with the The rockets visiting Timber Wolves and then I just found out yesterday. I've got another game on February twenty first. If you're in the area the Oklahoma City the thunder with their new leader. Chris Paul Doing Oh so great a hosting the Denver Nuggets so thus far averaging one month gentlemen would that. We're getting most April April. Yeah when we get to April one more among us I blow it with the last two and they're like sorry possible. It is very possible but appreciate that one I I I like you putting out that possibility but is there something. Is this almost like a like a backhanded compliment. Like that's the bold prediction. Shouldn't you be in line for that doubt about that. I'm just saying they're making a rapid ascent here in the NBA world. It would be a lot already be. Oh I'll just say this. If this was me in the booth I would not disrespect my hosts that way. I'll tell you that. Oh Wow here's here's tst trying to butter me up China instill some confidence and you've turned it into and I still have some learning to do here from the veteran interest from the great near Creek. Okay bull predictions a lot of things. I hope people wrote these down and Perhaps we can revisit them. We can make this into a yearly thing. SORTA SORTA like I've been doing with John pollock for all those years. I mean I have one hundred percent success rate all these years. So there's really no point absolutely okay so Do you have near Creek and this could in line with some of your bold predictions but is there a story or two that needs to be watched. It needs to be watched carefully like that is going to be the thread throughout the entire year. In twenty twenty twenty s their story to watch or even to that comes to mind. I mean I have to but the first one I feel like is the obvious. GimMe that everybody has is conor. McGregor Twenty twenty season. It feels like that is the discussion that that will impact mma the most route two thousand twenty. There's there's no doubt Yep mother one is and I think this affects. The future of of multiple divisions is excuse me will be able to challenge John Jones like is there challenge at light heavyweight for John Jones or are we going to be in a in a position where John Jones is floating between light heavyweight and heavyweight. Are we going to be in a position where he most fulltime to heavyweight. He is for all purposes. You know. Let's call them number two number three On the list in terms of of recognizable names and stars behind Conor McGregor or Habib and Conor McGregor. But he's up there and his future is vastly important to the future of animates the future of the UFC. I don't see kind of what the future is for him. I don't have a clear vision of it. Now I have my prediction but I consider it a bold prediction I I think his his movements will be very crucial in two thousand twenty. Yeah I agree with that. I agree with that I will also say the story to watch is if in fact conor will fight three times. Yeah is he has put it out there right. He wants to fight three times He's viewing twenty twenty as a season. He has lofty goals calls. He wants to fight Habib at the end of the year in Moscow. He wants to beat Sironi than someone in the middle. He's called out a lot of different people all well and good But the story to me to watches watches. Canny come back. Kenny regain. His old form can be as active as he once was and Kenny fight three times as he's predicting that he will. Oh fight three times and so we'll we'll get the first answer to that question on January eighteenth and ten days or so. That's going to be exciting. The other story for me is something that I alluded to earlier is. I really think Baltimore is going to have a big year. I think they're going to be a lot more aggressive. I don't think twenty nineteen was a particularly good year for for them. I think it was a bit of a down year. I feel ratings are down but just like not so much the ratings per se but I just feel like they're not a part of the conversation like their events are just coming and going wing and they're not making the impact that they were even two years ago or certainly what they were doing in the strikeforce days like when they fought when they had the events they felt like bigger deals. And I feel like they're gonNa Rieger things and have events that are going to make more of an impact And that would certainly tie into the CBS showtime stuff that I talked about earlier and the other one is in concert with bell tour. I think actually one is going to take a bit of a step back. I think it's very curious that vitor hasn't fought yet. I think I think they're going to spend a little less money. I don't know if coming to America Pardon the PUN is a smart move for them I think they should stick to what they know. uh-huh in Asia and I just feel like they were very aggressive two years ago. I don't feel that same aggression so I think Baltimore is GonNa you know two years ago. I think the storyline was. Oh maybe one is going to remember where we ended twenty eighteen with all the signings like. Oh maybe one is going to surpass bell tours. The number two I think now biltmore is going to reassert itself offense number two. Can I ask you something. Based on those two combined. Yes it may be. You know a more complicated question affected definitely more complicated question. But I would ask you these these signings you know the the the idea of the free agency has definitely benefited fighters but has it benefited these other organizations. These big name. Signings in my estimation mation just based on the evidence we've been seeing I don't see the impact that I think they would necessarily expect and you know you're predicting a big free free agency for Balladur but my question is we just saw this with one and it didn't lead to anything. Is this going to be something that they will immediately regret. Like is this the method for for establishing the new stars signing them signing these these free agents the bigger names. Yeah is it having the impact that the the organizations would hope it would have. I think it helps a little bit I mean. I don't think it helps when Eddie Alvarez Loses I think it helps I think it helps hopes when you're trying to gain a little popularity in America by signing guys like Alvarez by signing guys like sage who also lost by signing guys like Dimitrios Johnson who had a tough go early Alene is one run. But it's very hard man. It's it's I mean this is something we've been talking about for years. It's really hard to make stars. I mean just ask does as Bella tour how it works out right. Like Rory didn't really work out for them is gay guard working out. And he's about to become a free agent as well and even before that we're looking at Benson Henderson and yeah there's Michio apples and this is why my question is that because I think we've seen this. We've seen the kind words for question. I feel like you know the answer to this. You think you do. I think I know the answer but what I also agree with you that I think we're about to do it again. which which I don't I'm not sure? Is that the way forward. I guess it it depends on who we're talking about right. Yeah I mean you kind of have to hit the person like we've just seen cyborg. Cyborg delatour will see what the impact of that is I'm actually more thinking. cyborgs free agency signing even though it will happen even though it happened last year will be super important to this year for Bella tour. Yeah she's find Julia but on on January twenty fifth. I just think that the immediate had sean ours is is there is there but at the other day. No Oh history has shown that if you just pick up these pieces for the sake of picking them up it doesn't really change your fortunes. At the end of the day people will get behind like a Jay. McKee right is just as valuable right now. A homegrown guy that you could get behind that that you could say look we made this guy just as valuable as signing Anthony Pettis right now. We'll get them. We'll get them some attention but at the end of what is going to do and the other thing is anyone who can truly make can impact regardless of who they are fighting the. US's going to do everything in their power to lock them up. You know what I mean. It's it's a difficult game. It's a such a difficult game. We talk about free agency. It's not true free agency it straight there it's not even close to being there it's not what the NFL or the NBA is or major league. Baseball I mean there's just a couple of places and You you know. There's the matching rate's in this idea that you can you can recite I would only say that it's still baffles me. That like that. Everyone doesn't wait until the end of their culture. Sign like why wouldn't you played. I mean even Roy if we're GONNA take him for you know take him for someone who's being honest and I believe he is an honest on his person the fact that he's making more money at pf l. even though it is pf l.. And say what you want about where they fall in the pecking order the end of the day. The whole point of this game is to make money into to walk away with as much money as possible defectors making more money and PF l. than he didn't UFC and bell tower. Is All you need. The fighters are winning the fight. The more options options the fighters are winning this exchange ten times out of ten in and it's fantastic fight and your question. Why would you not wait till free agency as is the perfect question to ask because even if you re-signed with the UFC and we've seen that happen? I think people have this misunderstanding. That once you say you're GONNA find out your contract at that means you're gone. We've seen people out there contract and re signed with the UFC. You just is learn your value. You learn what you're worth on the open market and even if that means I want to go back and maybe I wanNA chase a UFC title Learning your value is not a bad thing. it's only good for for the fighters and I think we've seen that. TST has one. I do so Ariel. I only know all I know about fighters what they've said on your show so basically this year. I was introduced to thug rose nominees. I love her. She's so emotional. She wears a heart on her sleeve. Getting senior knockout at two. Thirty to thirty seven. Right to Jessica and Raj broke my heart. She said that she's probably coming back in. Twenty twenty seven that under show. I can't wait to see how she fares in two thousand twenty. Yeah me too. She doesn't have a fight yet. She's anything booked but she you did say she's GonNa come back. A huge fan favorite. It would be nice to see your back and And I mean clearly near quick doesn't think she's GonNa be Champ. Because he said Tatiana Suarez. Ars GonNa be champions. Hey maybe she gets in there before Tatyana. Maybe she's the one she takes about from. Maybe but honestly Tatyana is a great story to watch as well only because we'll she actually be able well to realize the neck is no joke when you're a wrestler like her and any kind of athlete to be honest She's banged up. She is banged on it and remember. Remember this time last year. We were all like that was a foregone conclusion. Oh End of twenty nineteen. She's GonNa be the champion right. I will she. was you know she was talking about an October return. Initially and and then you know the injury proved to be much harder to deal with an and the two year point like are we going to see that potential realize I ultimately think yes like. She's overcome many things in her life. And I don't think this will be an obstacle that will stop her And I'm excited to see if she's able to realize that potential because I think among the strawweights she's the one that everybody is kind of pointing out having that potential. I really. I really would like to see that realized this year. Okay I'm GonNA throw a curveball your way here we're gonNA play a little game called true or false okay. True or false. Gop Will Oh fight in two thousand twenty. I'M GOING TO DO I. Do I give a reason if you can briefly say that I think we've left the era where the UFC needs needs to sign people outside the organization where we'd see a Siham punk or somebody just brought in for that injection that we've talked about. I don't think that you have seen each. DSP as much as GSP news the U. OF C.. So I do not think we will see him okay. True or false Conor McGregor will flight three times in twenty twenty true absolutely true. Okay true or false Habibur. Mogomedov will end the year undefeated undefeated absolutely true true or false henry who will fight at one hundred twenty five pounds. is here false true or false Henry so Huda will end the year. The one thirty five pound champion again. Oh boy I'M GONNA say true although Peterman makes it very hard to say that but I'm gonNA say true true or false. Amanda Nunez will defend the featherweight title. Once this year false I predict division shuttered so false so you don't think anyone to they will not be a single featherweight title fight. This year has gone division. Wow true or false. Amanda Nunez will fight Valentina Shevchenko for the third time this year. Yeah for lack of better options. I'm going to say true you with me that it'll be a little too soon to make that fight. Have zero interest in that fight. Zero interest is strong. I've seen it. I've seen it twice. I said they were very closed. Their much better fighters now than they were back. Then there is not a scenario where Valentino overcomes the difference in power and size that Amanda offers. I'm not interested in that that fight but I do think that there are quite frankly. There's just not a better fighter available to face Amanda Nunez. So it's going to have to be to say you have no interests a little crazy. Sorry all right true or false Max. Hallway will be the featherweight champion by the end of this year. Does that mean he ends the eras champion. Or does that mean he will recover it false true or false. Beat Gomez Shari puzzle fight for the featherweight title. This year. True true or false is yet assign you will end the year undefeated true true or false brock. Lesson will fight in two thousand twenty same as ESPN GONNA say false and true or false nick ds will fight in two thousand twenty. That is the one that I think might happen. So I'm GONNA go true. Wow Begin to man you could you tell me on Robbie lawler vs Nick Diaz Right now how and I would be about as excited as possible. That's the only reason it didn't make my list Cause Nicky as in on the roster otherwise that would that would have been one of my must sees that actually. She has a better chance of happening in the Muslims fight. I I would love that fight when I say that I mean I don't think Diaz has any interest in that fight happening but I feel like you just almost saying with anything other than Mazda has a better chance to many options at the end of t