20 Episode results for "Maytham"

Bitcoin Looking Bullish

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

07:07 min | 7 months ago

Bitcoin Looking Bullish

"The show is proudly sponsored by tried to call dot com. And i'm going to bring you a testimony today from a course member from two thousand eighteen high craig. Congratulations at achieving your goal. I've also achieved my goal. Basically use the method you taught at your workshop found v. w. m. i. Set up to be thirty at thirty to be very good friend to me. Thanks to you for my family. I now have total financial freedom. Chase might this could be you as well take the plunge get started a visit. Try to called dot com now. Everybody welcome to the try to come crude podcast height you well well well. Well the top ten as it stands right now. I'll go to say it looks very bullish to me. Now have been wrong before and i will be wrong gyn but i will say that. It does look fruity. participate good and To talking about their did touch yesterday on the today. Candle on bitcoin. I'm many of the others to unfold. And you know what i'm saying. Mind is the two-day yesterday. Close very bullish. Data a bit of big candles so bigger than while i'm willing to be trading on But for the large welby cloy recovery of seventeen percent of course yesterday's candalyn bank i ten percent gain that we saying well it was just shaw. Ten percent on point six of i ten percent gain that we've seen in quite a little wall. The last time we saw a big ten percent it was when we hit nineteen percent back on the night of the february. so it's a significant candle. We did see printed yesterday. We just got gotta hold button now. Another thing about the As this rule has test touched or got to console advertised on yesterday it's been the catalyst for a number of the moves have been going on within this trend. The second pullback tends to be will in two thousand seventeen now at the second pool but was the one that really gave the biggest move. We'd had the first pullback back in january and the second pull about ready shot us up back in december. Sorry back in two thousand and seventeen through september october november five hundred eighty percent now. I'm not suggesting that that's going to occur this time. Although it will be what i am saying though is that is a pretty good launch pilot we could potentially be right. The of yesterday's candle on bitcoin Currently set at forty nine thousand one hundred twenty down one percent right now with the theorem. The ford i can't was the pig for me. A guy in a bullish candle on a theorem four-day back in the cradles line from the high from the low of the candle to the high twenty one percents very strong recovery from a low of just under thirteen. Hundred a dime. There's nothing for me just yet but yesterday's candle which was ten percent up has definitely helped that weekly Or that ford. I am weekly child. Look a lot better for me. Maytham does look quite strong on waiting for the security there on the lower timeframes alma to l. a. Four out it's currently at fifteen hundred and seventy five dollars up point two percent extra pay will listen. There's not much to speak of. They're still very confused. Very messy although on the ford. I we dig a bullish candle. There is one that is in the cradle entities in an uptrend. It's ugly looking up trend but it is there something to consider as well if we come by the high. Just another job for me and i will try to without any issue at all. Forty four point three cents right now. Down point seven percent for bitcoin cash very date pulled back but the fact of the matter is full. Four die bush candle in the cradles. I'm with convergence. All the ones above we convergent and You know a guy in the lower lower timeframes keeping close on one. The sokaia listening to return. I want that four out to be training in the same direction as that daily to open up opportunities submitted tried currently bitcoin cash is at five hundred and five dollars. Its up point. Six four percent now dots one of the ones that i've really locked been trying to get to try to quite some time now for may dot on the to the. Ken was too big. It's bullish it's an uptrend and it's convergent. It's also break into high of the loss to that candle. The other thing i walk about dot is that we do have a full hour uptrend. Yup we do have a high low and a high although the higher high is not all that significant in the sense that it hasn't moved very far. It's broken out through thirty five dollar seventy three today and if we can just see that kick on so from where it is right now on that one hour shot. then i'll be buying pullbacks given the chance so dot currently thirty six dollars. A forty seven cents up three point one percent right now lot coin on the ford. I also bullish candle in the cradles on It's not broken. The hard the hive that candle the catalyst for push high of amaze one hundred ninety two ninety one. It's going to break above that dying looking at those lower timeframes. Bitcoin like one hundred and seventy five dollars which down point six five percent bond answers well on that to date back in that cradle broke the high. There's not much simplicity their guy but look totaling. Fifty one dollars and seventy cents down one. Three percent cow donna. Having biggest today. I'll do like this on the daily job It's just continued to trend very very nicely. It's pulling back into that cradles. I if i can get a little cradle in the next couple of days the that will certainly be a mock which i'll be looking for long trains. It's a dollar twenty two which is down five point. Six one percent now link is the opposite. It is up five point. Six one percent at twenty nine and thirty three cents and a guide. Come back to that. Ford ain't two-day both cradles the ford. It looks the best broken. The high and not five point six two percent at twenty nine dollars. Seventy three while the bed looking shots at the lower timeframes. I'm talking about one hour. Our declivity is there. It has had a good push today at a pullback into somewhere around that so twenty seven fifty range for cradle would certainly be my right off tries lighter onto dice. Oh very strong on the best market in the top ten as far as guy fought today still live is really so a crab looking not much to speak of their to forty two point five cents down one point four percents that as your top ten full this tuesday the second of much because if you haven't already make sure you check go on youtube share it with your friends and family groups that you're in and also the freight coast it said tried to club dot com so get yourself starting to that a fantastic. Donald speeds are gonna mar wafa now. This show is proudly sponsored by. Try to call dot com. And i'm going to bring you testimonial today from a course member from two thousand and nineteen high crag. 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Throwback: Stop Making Excuses

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

07:46 min | 2 years ago

Throwback: Stop Making Excuses

"Today's episode is proudly brought to you by try to cops the double bay dot com. Join up for the free biweekly video newsletter with myself my table, keep you up to date on the moves that are in this crypto market now if you want to learn how to make money within the market goes up or down go to try to call dot com. Now. Seder great trader resolve it. Hot guess, this is the traitor Cobb crypto podcast. Hello and welcome to the try to cope crypto show. A hope you are having a fantastic time wherever you are in the world and the shadow out to the one hundred twenty countries that listen to this shy. Now, it's been absolutely amazing. Having the amount of paper listening. Diana and Diana. It really is. I truly humbling experience, and I really appreciate your time. Do the best I can't put at great content that you guys can actually use. So hoping you get a big benefit out of this always goes. And that you enjoy it net. Goes I wanted to touch on a subject today that I think is is quite important. And it's it's about how to get by everyone does a little bit about goals. And what on I I get it. It can sound cheesy at Tom's a fully understand that. But the point is the certain ways of doing things to get it done. You know that this certain things that a consistent with success? For people, and I just wanted to share one of those couple of stories from some of the people that I've met toward an have been mentoring for years now. And a lot of them are adult mental with anymore because I've I've I've only apprentices that I work with now. But just how they've actually got themselves to where they are. Because it requires a pretty damn big commitment if unfair you know, I it's a big commitment. Trading is tough. It is tough the crypto spice makes it a little bit a little bit easier. Just because of the amazing volatility that we have so whereby you'll have your risk multiple is still one. You'll reward multiple is is a great great multiple than what you would find introducing market. So therefore, we don't have to take as many trades to do. Well, or we don't have to we didn't have to have bigger reward. Sorry. So he's a prophet. Just simply because when we do have as many problems when we do have. Often is a big prophet. You know, it was just cutting up the slides from watch to another event coming up in just saw how big some of these moves are just let me realize that it really is stacked in favor of of somebody trading. If you're going to go and try to foreign exchange, and you know, I used to make a living doing that stuff. It is it's tough. It's even harder. And a lot of people that have tried encrypted. Don't try Bischel markets for that reason. They can't make money. A lot of them literally have started. He's only by. I don't really know what they're doing. And that that's fine. H my point is is that you've got to commit yourself to this trading. It's tough in crypto. It is easier. It is better. We do have big move. So that's a good thing for anybody. Who's not trading? It don't don't think it's so high that you can't do it. The other thing is how are you going to commit yourself to it? You know, a lot of people sit in the fence on there'll be a huge meal. Thousands of people listening right now this sitting on the fence and what you'll be saying? He's all yeah. I'm going to start trading. All yeah. I'm going to do. The course was all. Yeah. I'm gonna get going and you've been saying that for us. Ladies, and I know this and it's not an insult. It's just a fact it's just pointing out the overuse, I mean, I'll go to a lot of events on us. See some of the some of the same faces event to event, you know, who you are. And all, you know, haven't got started yet. I haven't started yet. That's just an excuse. So tell you what you don't have to get big right to get started. But you have to get started to be Grayton until you start. You got two chances of success with trading. It's zero and Buckley's actually throw third in none. So you need to get started. And you need to commit to it for some people spending money on something helps them commit to it. Because they the thing over Las spent money now of committed financially to an outcome that I want to achieve in there for they'll actually, you know, put the head down bum up and get stuck him for all this is telling people I had a woman that I am meant mentor in London many, many moons ago. And she and her mother spoke a lot. She was a great woman, and she said that on her business car what she did was she put in absorb put on that trader. So basically what she was doing with that was essentially sign of will. Yes, I am now. I try to I trade. It's what I do. And it was there. It was designed for one single purpose. It was designed for people to Baid like all how's the training gang? And so, you know, you do have people in your life. The hopefully don't have too many people do go has the training like some smug some genuinely interested, but she wanted to look the door behind her. So that she would actually have to say eventually nothingness right away. Yes. It's going fantastic. Thank you for asking. So whatever it is for you that is essentially walking through the door and shutting that door behind you, whatever it is you need to do it and the long you sit there kidding yourself. Not doing it. The worse off you're gonna be. I mean, do you know, how many people when I was twenty two and I started trading. The amount of people said all dealer, which are started. When I was your age. So why don't you start now? Yeah. Now, busy got this this this just like, well, these just rubbish excuses. You can stop whenever you want to. It's it's. Everyone's got the same amount of time right now. So get started. If you don't want to try that that's fine as well. But if you're sitting there arming an ARIN about it, stop una cahan you start who you start with what you do. Yes. You know that there are certain ways to do it properly. And there are certain ways not do it properly. I would hope that many people that are educated from this show would decide to do it properly. And hopefully you trust me to be partner. However, I know a lot of people weren't that's fine. That is absolutely farm for those at do. He gotta find a way to look behind you. Tell people spend the money. Auto know, put it on Facebook change job title, tell it on Lincoln. I don't know what it is fetal whatever it is. Just do it make family is so much more pine full that it's an it's not an outcome that you can accept that was the whole idea of putting on the business cards of saying on the try it if that one was to say. A account on not gonna put up with these people telling me that I didn't succeed a half to succeed saying with Maytham like I didn't take over the family company. I didn't take over the family company. I wanted to go to trading I had to tell my dad that all success. I had to show him the may Tenny my back on a successful business was in fact with wall. The odd made the right call not still motivates me to this day. Not so much such an issue anymore. But you know, it's just one of those things you wanna make your parents proud. Right. So whatever it is for you. Fine. Would it is walk through that door and slammed the door shut behind you. And look it. 'cause that way you've got one way to go. That's forward, and that's success guys. A hope this find your will a hope this hits a nerve a hurt. We get started on don't have it. With me have a great day. The trader Cobb crypto podcast checkout trader Cobb dot com because experience matters.

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Kenda Creasy-Dean [Bonus] Surviving Shipwreck

Reports from the Spiritual Frontier

04:53 min | 2 years ago

Kenda Creasy-Dean [Bonus] Surviving Shipwreck

"So I wanted to ask you to you and I have talked before, and I think this conversation about spiritual formation is, is really important when you're talking about how shipwreck happens in spiritual communities and certainly, you know, we're headed towards a lot of that both in our existing communities with with, you know, like the United Methodist Church has, has definitely hit a rock and his sinking. And that's it. You know, grabbed the possessions, go for the life rafts. But it's also really true in most new faith communities. We are communities. Have you're never gonna hit some point in your community where you're gonna go through a period of major conflict because that's part of relationship for Maytham formation. So I was wondering if you could talk about, what shipwreck looks like why it's an important test for new spiritual communities and what sort of practices are helpful to make sure community is grounded enough to whether that in a way that it becomes an instrument of grace. I wish that were one-size-fits-all answer to that. I mean the. It seems that there are two two things come to mind on that one is there's some practical things it helps if you know, how to swim right? It and there's some some more intangible things it also helps, if you actually have some confidence that you can make it to shore. I mean, the interesting thing about the passages about shipwreck in the bible are that everybody makes it to shore. You know, and the Paul is in act, you know, does this horrible shipwreck and yet every there's enough flotsam and jetsam that people can hang onto, and they all make it to shore. And I think the analogy is true for us too. So yes, structures are breaking apart that have been together for four hundred five hundred years, but there's an awful lot of pieces that are, you know, have been thrown overboard. That are really gonna help us if we hang onto that. And so part of it is just having, you know, don't not giving up too soon being able to. I think one of the great skills of ministry is is hacking being able to make something into something else that it wasn't. It's like you know what, what people do with I care furniture. We can do that with scripture to write. It wasn't it hasn't been used like this before, but we couldn't use it this way. And that is actually very hopeful. We use it this way. And so to have people with with kind of. An exit jackal sorry that the big church you word both with, with an imagination about how to parse tax in ways that make fresh sense today. That's one skill. That's like that's that's a hacking skill. Right. The ability to take something that we call church and make it look different but still be church. That's a hacking skill. I think community organizing is every passer should be community where every Christian leaders should be a community organizer. And I think we used to take that for granted long before community. Organizing was a thing we just gathered people. And we knew how to meet them, but it's interesting today, like my students are, and they're mostly in their twenties. But the idea of going and just talk cold calling somebody to have a conversation with them this terrifying to them, which blows. Is my mind and then I realize. Oh, right. These are the people who got through college cognitive and their cell phone. So you know they never had to have a base. The base conversation, this this, this is the generation that breaks up with their beloved ones. Oh my text. So the art of based face conversation, much, less organizing is a loss skill that the church actually originally was really good at. And so that's another that's another practice that I think we can claim in this, obviously new forms of communication there. There are lots of there are lots of ways, I think that we can utilize what happened shipwreck drowning is not the only option. I think that's the main thing. And if we take seriously, you know, who Christ is Johnny is not only not the only option, but it's not the option Christ has for us. You know. Our, our death has been taken care of already by him. So we can think about how to put the how to get to shore and how to put things together again. A new way.

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History of the holiday inn six flags St. Louis

The big d zone

05:31 min | 5 months ago

History of the holiday inn six flags St. Louis

"Okay this is a prestige now. Before i go and lead this hotel i wanted to do at promise. Me about the The short history of tiny. Get it to the gray light. The perfect history of this hotel and if i could see it there was a pretty small but said who will ever believe that after almost two hundred years of serving and a fresh will vary travel and horses. This sixty five acre of man would coming. We'll continue is tradition and becoming the site of a of a beautiful resort complete with guest from an in house restaurant meaning and banquet room and indoor swimming pool and recreational area at the turn of the nineteenth century the the The indian who dwelt in this portion of missouri dug deep springs in on the ground on the president. Holiday inn at six flags accrue six flags To be used in the time of a drought later as more and more people travelling tai-bo by style Stage cold d land became known as the brains stage Stay stop and always is for very traveled. Thei- their first good. I good water outside the city of saint louis. In the meantime taint lewis of population grew and many Improvement many impoverished people began to move to help ease some of the problem. The country purchased the land and blade it. Yeah the The county Purchase the land and laid out laid it out to build the saint louis county poor form i restore arbor stone. Maytham were employ to build a large var. Bill intended for a dormitory. The original star share a two story l shaped pond l. Stay bond with Handcraft mine stone walled up to thirty six inches still stands today and thursday. At the center of the complex housing the hay market restaurant and and a spacious meaning and convention and banquet facilities the construction of the building progresses slowly and then stop altogether during the civil war after financial difficulties occurred in eighteen eighteen. Ninety four and an m and saint louis. Louis veteran doctor tall call probably bought the man and converted the barn into up to date up. They horse hospital qila bordering state boarding stable and a horse star farm which bred many fire racehorses the farm also served as a and and waiting in place yeah watering play for tattle and sheep heading east to national stockyards in e think after dr death in the nineteen thirty dilan taints had a hand several times for one point period. The bar healthy camping tips. I champion intact. Light bar bar bar money. The deep spain's site was purchased by the hemp family. In one thousand nine hundred ninety five and will develop into the financially of facility that you're now enjoy opening in nineteen eighty one so that the Brief three of the holiday in saint louis for giant staining now and get ready to leave until the second palace on today though they have it. Everything is done.

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Eastern Corn Belt rag-tag compared to IA, NE

The Big Show

24:30 min | 1 year ago

Eastern Corn Belt rag-tag compared to IA, NE

"Often run. We are here in the second half of the big show on a Friday with the Hinson Sunshine out. The state of rainfall being received but I think on faith saying less than forecasted and a lot of different areas which. Might be part of the strengthen in the marketplace that we're seeing today also will ask that question of our expert marketing analyst. Alain Burglar coming up before one o'clock eighty Peterson in a big show today. Bob Quinn on special assignment. We look forward to his return on Monday Maytham Fisher. Handling weather and market information fourth Doug Hensley is our eyeballs out in the field boots on the ground today, Bob would say covers a wide area across the major corn and soybean girling region for hurts real estate services based out of Nevada Iowa Doug. Would you rain rain gauge today? You know here in Nevada. I didn't have very much just as enter to. That was in my rain gauge, but I talked to gentlemen neff Oh an hour north George Williams west of Iowa falls that He had two point six so very dependent upon where you are we, we can actually use the Nice in terrain here in Nevada certain to starting to dry up a bit. And we keep hearing that from folks in Nebraska folks in Illinois hearing of replanting in in Missouri Doug. Boat, you're the one that's out there CNN talking to people so What's your? What your summary? At, this point? Yeah, I was in Illinois for a few days last week to through Northern Central and east central Illinois and over towards the Champagne area, and really all the way across the state, Illinois in the eastern corn belt in general, had a better early planting season here in twenty twenty crappier than what we did in any part of twenty nineteen. It seems, but then the in May we had over A. Huge drain that really kind of made a mess in places What was a good start to the crappier that was relative to the Iowa in Nebraska which probably had by and large a really smooth start to the crappier, and in those areas where we had those heavy rains, and may that Kinda split are planning? He's into first-half second-half The eastern corn belt looks a little ragtag. What you'll see here in the state of Iowa, and as you and you get out into Nebraska as well a lot of replant in central and northern. Illinois has happened You've seen a little bit of that. In places in Iowa potholes that got planted early here in central Iowa. Had you know some of these heavier rains fill them up and some re plants happened, but there's there's been. Been pretty widespread replant and places in Illinois, and you know that that has discourage people in some cases and you know it's not been too late to get it replanted. Last year we had a hard time getting anything planted so twenty twenty, just a different year than last year but the by large eastern corn belt as struggled more than the western corn belt this year again Well and you. You bring that up and I was thinking about that here. As we were getting ready to begin this segment. Doug, you know. I remember you and I and Bob sitting around last year talking about what are unique year at had been difficult year. Because of the weather and planting conditions, this obviously has been unique in difficult. For other reasons, but. It's Boy It's been something else, hasn't it? Yeah. It's been a different era and I actually you know. The spring season has been the source of I think great encouragement to people, overall just you go from two shades of Brown and three shades of gray in the wintertime to see green outside with the fact that people have been kinda locked in their houses in a totally different way this year than they ever have been before I think this spring and early summer season has been really welcome for people you know every year in agriculture is different and we make adjustments every year and I think as a as an agricultural state, and and just that group of people who work in the industry. Agriculture is built to. Be Prepared for the unknown, and that's something that other sectors aren't quite as accustomed to the so I feel like we're. We're built for this. Year has brought. And have. By and large, this pandemic found ways to continue to the process of food and fuel and fiber production, which of course as we continue to to learn until our story is in eighteen month to two year process from planting seeds in the ground where it begins to ending up on the grocery store shelves. So, what do you have a sense of acreage than Doug? Because we're starting to turn, our is now to the supply and demand report out at the end of the month from USDA. I haven't looked at the acreage totals here recently, but I think by and large What people had planned early on I? Know There was an expectation that we're going to be really heavy on corn. Acres I'm not sure it's GONNA. Be Quite as as big of a number as what they thought, but I think it'll probably be close to it. because I think. Think even with the replant. People were able to follow through on their intentions, and what they were late in the in the spring season, so I think we're going to have a lot of corn in the countryside this year and you know I think that's been reflective in the marketplace. Do with the with what we've been dealing with and in the in the grain complex. So, then, what's kind of everybody's mood on marketing here? Doug? You think they're. Starting to get started in some cases, because it sounds like storage may be an issue this fall. Yeah I actually people have been you know, a little down in the mouth about What's been happening in the countryside with commodity crisis? But as you say that there you know, there has been some supportiveness. Come from. Places that we may not want it, but with the government in in the support they have offered has been meaningful and I. think that's important that way that we recognize the the you know. Corn and soybean markets may not be exactly where we want him. and we're going to continue to work on this demand situation in agriculture, but I think I think we're GONNA. Be Okay. I think the opportunities that are there. People need to take advantage of in according soybean markets when they're offered and it's not going to be. It's not gonNA be a home run year, but Hopefully it's going to be a year that were that were able to knock a single in or or a devil and in the. Plate and that's the way I think of. It is taken as volunteer. Absolutely and that's good advice, Doug. That's why we. talked to you from time to time about this stuff, we'll talk again. I appreciate it sir. Bounds good the andy yet. We'll see about Doug Hensley president hurts. Real Estate Services on a debate Iowa across. The Midwest. Market numbers positive at least. Made Him Fisher has them for you coming up? Abba comment, maybe a picture. Share them us on the pioneer seeds text line, five, one, five, nine, nine, fifty, four, ninety, one, nine, nine, nine, five, four, nine one. Time on the big show twelve twenty four reserve precious time he's the big big show clocking Eddie Peterson in the big show, Bob Quinn on specialist sinement Nathan Fisher has whether South American weather conditions cropping conditions during harvest. Even turn to Nathan Fisher for that information eight. Yeah, thank you, Andy! I starting in Brazil, southern areas of rearguard assume. Seeing some scattered showers today, tomorrow and Sunday. Mostly dry on Monday Tuesday temperatures. They're above to well to above normal all the way through the weekend until Tuesday in northern areas, of Mata, Grosso and Goias Mato Grosso. Going to see mostly dry conditions until Tuesday temperatures, they're above normal. Until Tuesday, Argentina did see a few scattered showers a couple of days ago, but did not get enough rain quite to to help their emerging wheat crop there being stressed by some dry conditions across the country team. Today we'll see some more showers in northern and eastern areas of. Of the country, but Western and southern areas we'll see limited rainfall over the next week or so, and not necessarily worldwide weather here, but outside the the big show. studios here at our flagship station in in Do Moines a pop up. isolated shower, not really much on the radar, but giving us quite the Sochi Randy. And it depends doug. Hensley told US earlier. where you are in of rainfall totals and we'll see where we come in, but certainly. A lot of areas getting less than forecasted a few areas, getting dumped on, and so it goes, I guess as the cropping season continues here across the Upper Midwest. In fact, just one one hundredth of rain in the Cambridge area reports in a rain gauge. Rick on the pioneer seeds text line. Five one, five, nine, nine, nine, fifty, four, ninety, one. The Red Rock Cattle Company, says they're. Teaching the kids how to bail hey. Judson and Alina WanNA. Hear their names on the radio, so we're happy to bat for you today on the big show. Joining me on the big show, today's Spencer Chase with Agra Paul's Spencer works in Washington DC and gives us kennison weekly insights on what's going on agriculturally in the nation's capital spend. Let's talk about trade today. Robert Lighthizer was testifying before the Senate. Finance Committee, which included Chuck. Grassley of Iowa, but he had some messages on trade with maybe a new deal with the UK and visit a little bit about the old deal. We're talking about with China as well. What's new in the UK? So one of the things that's been kinda brewing in these conversations with the United Kingdom is some some thoughts. I guess we could put it that they have in terms of the American food system, not a big fan. They aren't of Some of the Anti Microbial rinses that we use in American chicken production Easter certain hormones in beef production They've been fairly resistance to considering owning their borders to those kinds of technologies, and it's gone as far as in. In, previous conversations with the EU of which you know, the UK was was formerly a part of of saying. Hey, you know. Maybe maybe let's just doing that doesn't include agriculture and obviously there's been Sabarmati Sanders. notably Senator Grassley said that that's that's just not something. They would be willing to consider in the United States Senate and There's been some similar commentary from the administration and we heard it officially from from USTR lighthizer yesterday. said that's when the without. Without Agriculture, the United States is just not really interested in pursuing a trade deal, and so that obviously of thrones throws an iron in the fire, some of those UK negotiations and he mentioned. It's going to be some very difficult negotiations with the UK, and obviously now we know agriculture is going to kind of add to that difficulty, Spencer, we hear a lot about on again off again. Orders from China and whether or not they're going to fulfill that phase one obligation. What's? What's what's the latest that you're hearing well? That was the thing that lighthizer discussed on Capitol Hill yesterday again he had to hearings one Senate finance, as you mentioned the other with the House Ways and Means Committee which controls trade policy in that chamber and something. He told that committee was that he was very confidence that they were going to live up to those live up to those purchase obligations. Because frankly there's There's a need in China for more at good. And so obviously he feels very competent. We've seen figures coming in from from China from the Department of Agriculture saying there have been buys of soybeans, not only for the existing crop year, but several contracts for new crop so soybeans that'll be purchase after September first which kind of bolsters the the opinion of some in the administration that China's going to be able to get. That roughly forty billion dollars in American aircraft purchases. Obviously, that's going to be an uphill battle. That's forty billion dollars is a big number. That's more than they were doing. Even before the trade war happened and so a lot of going to have to kind of break the the way of the United States if they're going to follow through with that, but lighthizer seeing very confident. That's something that can still happen. Then you know. We saw the comments yesterday from the book, The book excerpts from former National Security Staff John Bolton you know expressing that even president trump directly to Chinese President Xi Jinping. Really pushing for those American purchases and you know obviously we don't need to dive into. The the terminology, the Bolt mucis guide those conversations, but it it. It is important to know that clearly purchases or something. That's top of mind to administration while top of mind for Midwest as well as Spencer. Every time we hear any news at all, it moves the market for five cents either one way or the other so economically the very important as well. Hey, how can we find out more about what ask repulsed does on a daily basis. Absolutely so anger polls dot com, the the best way to find a find what we're working on. We published. Do News stories every day as well as a weekly newsletter. That goes out every morning. We have some morning afternoon bulletin that we send out the best way to kind of experience. The Agricole's coverage that we offer is by signing up for four weeks. Free trial and you can do that at our website and again. That's agriculture dot. COM Spencer Chase with us on the big show. To Hear Spencer here Bob of course recording net before he took off special assignment, and Spencer. The Agra pulse gang. Do such a great job in fact I've got delivered to my email inbox each and every morning. their daily update to try and keep track of all the things that have been changing. You're not only this week, but it seems like throughout this Covid, nineteen pandemic, and that of course continues. It is forty now on the big show clock and time for the three big things. You need to know courtesy of your Iowa. Farmer. Well finding some assistance for the renewable fuels industry, they've been left out of basically everything so far, but it could be in better shape in the new corona virus aid package according to the Chairman of House Committee, but other problems for the industry remained like these fifty two small refinery exemptions. That EPA is reportedly considering Collin. Peterson is the chair of the House Committee. He told a virtual congressional bio-fuels caucus townhall he's. He's confident relief not in the original cares act, but now in the House passed heroes. Act will be in any deal that comes out of the Senate could be forty five cents a gallon on your. I think three months. Production or you're gonNA use something from a year ago. That's better than I think whatever is happening. What's the next stimulus bill or whatever you WANNA call it I. Think the. Will be pretty close to what we put in this bill that we on a couple of weeks ago in the house. So that optimism is certainly good to hear now. He also says that They're looking help. Other commodities to like hog producers Turkeys chickens and some that have been left out, but will hurt during this overall covid nineteen situation. Efficiencies I was local food delivery system, which is why the I was secretary of eggs, office says announced five three thousand dollar grants to help connect I was food hubs with Iowa's farmers markets I was secretary of Egg Mike Nag says farmers, markets, and food hubs have a great. Here in the states are important to many people as there are over two hundred farmers markets and ate food hubs in Iowa. Helping specialty crop producers, fresh meat and produce directly can do consumers in their regions. He says that many people desire to quote support local businesses and purchase source foods, and these grants will help give consumers access to a wider variety of meat and produce grown by Iowa's farmers. Getting your information to folks that say for the Corona Virus Food Assistance, program or Sif up part of the cares act passed by Congress and signed into law by President trump in March good big show, Buddy Richard Ford. Dice Missouri Farm Service Agency. Administrator says the funds are being distributed very quickly. As of June Fifteenth, you know FFA has approved more than two point eight billion dollars in payment to over two hundred twenty thousand producers who was highly anticipated lot of a lot of interest in the program really from day one. Are Folks in our local county. Offices are really working hard to get those applications completed. And get the money out which he says has happened in impressive the Times now. He says there was some commodity groups and producers that were not covered in the initial phase, but that was due to lack of information and says FSA's working hard to rectify that situation. Twelve forty three reads the big show clock and. That's a look three big things you need to know. Curtis Iowa silly being farmer, connecting the ninety eight percent of Iowans don't farm with the two percent. Who Do that's the Iowa. Food and family project when trust in modern agriculture grows Iowa grows to find out more at. Food and family DOT COM. And whether time on the big show, we're going to keep nate's vocal chords well exercised here at twelve forty seven. How about a look nate across the Midwest and cropping conditions? When I when I talked to you about fifteen minutes ago, we were getting soaked outside the the moines flagships due to shirt, who and now nothing left, but some puddles, no, no more rain, falling in the in the domain area at the time that scattered shower moving through We'll see some more scattered showers. Showers throughout the evening, though across the state of Iowa still seeing a heavier rain in northeastern corners of the state yeah, and then rain extending into tomorrow across the state of Iowa temperatures in the mid to high seventies, the next couple of days could see eighty s on Sunday another chance for rain on Monday with temperatures in the high seventy S, and then looking at a few sunny days in a row in the middle of next week with highs in the mid seventy s and eighty. thanks great job, taking a look at what's happening across the Midwest and you heard Doug Hanley say. Even in the Vega probably use a little bit of rain has their less than forecast. It has fallen so far. We not over with yet, but. Certainly the potential. to to have a major change, one way or the other could by the time Monday morning or Sunday night trade rolls around. Could. Be caused or at least influenced by what does it doesn't fall from the sky here? Crops continue to develop in require more and more moisture naturally the taller if they get. I mentioned earlier. And you're GONNA have to see a picture that I am going to post on the big show. Social Media at big show farm a little later on this afternoon. It is from Decatur County? And it is a group of Hay Bales. I can only assume they would have been fresh, first crop and I didn't know this was the thing. I guess you'll have to forgive me on that, but the net wrapping which holds the bales together is red, white and blue. It looks like an American flag. Holding these bales together which will give you chills certainly to see that in the countryside, and it'll be available on social media, so make sure that you follow. At fictional far algebra her closing number gets the last of the markets, you straight ahead. Today's top stories in agriculture and the analysis. You trust this sense the big Joe. And Allen. Burglar gets the final word on the big show today sucking fuel and fiber production for two hours. Days. Central Colorado Down Through Eastern Kentucky and across most of the major crop, producing areas of the country. Alan Strength Peer, corn and soybeans. A what what are you looking at for? Targets here and does this. June thirtieth report You think have the potential to change some things. But June thirtieth reports have a history of changing things so that that's one of the biggest average daily move days of the year. For Corn and beans because? The grain stocks. Tell us a lot about The lifelock US which we don't measure, otherwise the they also pick up any test way issues. We might have had from lingering from last fall that we needed to move more grain across the scale before we see it. and. The acreage report of course shows how much farmers responded to the price signals that the market got after the margin tensions report. The soy corn ratio has been pointing towards more beans. Almost the entire spring question is whether with get rapid planning progress. We were making whether people were paying attention and actually made that adjustment. So what are you? What. What's what's the advice here? Then Allen making sales, or at least looking at it here because we're talking about, it seems like with everybody were starting to think ahead to storage especially if there's a big crop-growing. Well right now on old crap. On for July beans, for example we. We're trying to sell that at eighty, two little bit more at eight ninety seven. that would be the two speed line. That's fairly substantial technical resistance. Didn't quite yet. They're got within quarter center so her of today's target, but. TR-, trying to scale up shell on the old crop right now. New Crop I think eight ninety or nine dollars should be a first sale for no and Want to get a little bit more than that before we commit to heavily here. Over on the corn side I think we're still on an uptrend rising regression channels. and. Potential definitely that crop shrinks when USDA gives us the grain stocks so We're being patient. Being patient That's I think that's a learned skill. You know if you do this for thirty or forty years. You get more patient. There's a famous saying that Oh. There's there's old traders and bowl traders, but there aren't any old bowl traders. And probably not by accident Alan. How do we continue the conversation directly? Two, six, nine, seven, three, six to three or visit our website, www the marketing dot com. Send me an email. Allenby be burglar MK G. DOT COM. Thank you sir weekend. You get the last night only on the big show for Friday but the higher. Like I said, make sure you follow at big show farm. Really Cool picture posted. Make your weekend. Taken healthy weekend. We will see Monday.

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Graff Champs_Josh 5

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Graff Champs_Josh 5

"Were changer. The garbage. the first. I what i looked like a grab ledges. Champions coach berry. They we go baby here. We go what happened on nobody. You broke the internet is so heavy bro. You name is her. I just want to say kedah on to one of the three kings. The gods the blueprints that is because a you that i'm here interviewing you. That's crazy everybody. Give it up for the mother. Fucking legend go himself. Josh five eighty error. Take beginning because fans were no your story. How did you get integrated food. You get into it. You know i was all your mom. Bravo dylan am above. Used to hang out with cent force. Edison sounds a kid. Sin folks to be mcrib nami sinful. W staying out. No so my mom. My bubby should do a little toy. You should on the paper and all that. So i started cracking lou weapon paper but every says a kid i was office. I was always into art and stuff like that. So for my scoop is the louisa. Elliot's nice to go to on. Ps one ten so for my classroom. I used to always see the trains ride from mouth window. No in pretty much man like everybody from dan. Name was bombed my voice. Ot ns now. First of all. I wanna say josh whitman. First and foremost land fog into the session. So my boy so from. Tns live right across the street from in la to nominee. So i say numerous tags before josh five. No act tian q. E. k. k. So i so. I started writing probably like an early eighties. I started writing early eighties and had nope then. But i always had like full zeal. Me anything i have. Damon always did it before you obscene amount of what it was hustling a gets. No negative shadow may up saying. But everything i did was for both me so you got a question when i'm saying. Oh no ono what you want to hear. This was so now you've got into graffiti. You seeing the trains out your classroom. So how did you name josh. Fives josh's father got the jobs. Five from sin four. I got it from central because nice. Go to sim force crib. I i see josh tags. All amount of buildings. And all that. So when i came to send force crib and i've seen a josh tag inside his role. Must be we're flagged. Is josh five because my name. My name is john. You feel what i'm saying. So he was. He was like a like the tag. I was kid so he was a guilty man. That's going fit. Why would i started rock. That's mary right there in for gave you the name josh on. That's crazy in on your unlike easy easy my biological cousin now in on the right now i mean. He wasn't even tagging up so like ice tried to go. He said hey grab in never worthy way graffiti. None of that tagging up so he so so. I used to come to crave. And i'm like oh man go bomb with me maytham saying 'cause like my mom's they women come out the brave and all. I like that so if i was with him you found what i'm saying. Then eight was good so he started tagging. Lc ladies collected saying. I don't know how you came each with. The easy tags came up with the right a little different and all that so what what happened was we had at that particular time. Like a if was in no street actually. It was a subway all movement. From what i'm saying so people tag. The i'm at the first one attacked when they won't street because people people was the subway all so people do lou neighborhood tags anyway stuff like that. I see low local tags and build stuff like that though but it was like when i see that the trains was was being converted. Now means i. Was that yoda ship. Out the rap so odd so my cousin ease yeses. Y'all got a plan man. I says. Joe i wanna do. We firm san sought meet a mat of every way. And i'm saying you're going to go under under all the may may sub. We live going to hit all the main avenues in bronx brooklyn queens and all that so out so i have mapped the whole thing now. So easy was my bridge. Sheep partner originally from st partner before jars. Now i mean so to me and easy. We came around where we started up in hall on one hundred and forty street seventh avenue so we came out bom which is doing little tags runaway pro so on we start doing big tax. We was the first ones to create big tanks. Anybody else replicated. That'll at us. I mean so when we was doing these big tanks jaws peeing slade. Clump to shamal a it. It was it was it was a whole croom. Our crew thrown. I'm saying so. Joss be johnson johnson. Look i'm going to take you out to the yard to three yards. That was because because i was the yard that we rock on hundred and forty eighth street on is ten so he said yo take taking to the streets bring out two yards so after a while we thought of hayden hayden streets johnson eight so a couple of other news from day was like no because josh jobs like the general of the yard king into threes so someone who made no disrespect to fill the ways lou jealousy. Whatever the for like who's pulling johnson jobs away from them up saying so on some people at at one time to for reasoning. Is this bugger tagging shown street but it was crazy though because like now is like people go bombing and colors and all that everything we did was all footman with footwork man. I'm on my leap. We had always been dot highways man. We was like motherfucking on on all these main avenues in when we were tagging. All these gates was fucking clean man. Everything was clean and then after that subsequent to that pigs had little tags around them and everything so it was. It was like home there. There was people who did. Like like. I said i had tags around the way but it wasn't no the movement not like that. You understand what i'm saying. So we was the first writings man to actually make that tour. Structural movement man. 'cause nobody know right is history was doing none of that man who was back to back somebo from this winter. That side tweet back to back from avenues. To avenues in he was hitting the trains to threes hitting one. Seventy fifth layup. Now me rocking that too. And like before that. When i was tagged before josh five is nice i go to hosie layup. It hit the wwl's norrland with all the time of rain. Cassini on street in was doing those bombs and as you i never got caught never got caught adding up before but i always really kept him kept within circle that like that so late on we have. We ran into tier. No not. but i'm not like i'm gonna. Tk chino in on washington square. Paul i'm a. I'm a both in washington square. Paul now as low negative a big fucking giants and shit. Now i mean so i've met. Don't we had shop it up and then all for some reason. Tk t k was going over easy stories shit not me so one time on the at came back to the was easy job no matter of fact i think it was just me. Jaws in there was some t- kate awards. Tk trim teensy chino dna road on a hand. War called back in back in manhattan makes brooklyn takes it so the jars ragged over all of that. She did josh dopes overall. It should jobs. It's crazy jobs over at any and everybody man so anyway so we want to click enough with. Tk gin rummy piece that we started bombing mammy tk magoo. now me. I never met shaw. Be w. men on me. But no you sam now respect the on w but it was like l. was crazy though because it was like man back in the eighties man. It was like we walked to all the roughest neighborhoods man holidays neighborhoods me and i never had no problems with that man but i know easy to do. Solo shady events allowed stuff massive to manufactured. Say you say good story. It was me sinful easy in easy a gas. We was going to coney island so we out the coney island so some so we not the tag on wall so easy was like fuck that shit up man so easy. I said yo chair. So soon is my j. o. It was a bunch of white boys need closers. Like twenty white does minimize ran. Ran down a sinful ranted fucking a boardwalk at the day on one avenue innocent shit like that. Got manning's on my back so we spent demand and we all met back up though for the most. I never really had will. Right is like that. I mean it was once on one writer from and baulch when i was living on webster avenue. Donate track three year. When over my head because i never liked to go over. Somebody's tag because i had to. What should update anyone because the rag my shit so our solved that problem street man so what. They was me and my all who went. We found the way he lived. Some through from i forgot. Oh he's tax said with june on them so what was i had ran on one of them and do told me where do live there. So i went not door nominee. So he wasn't even aid sewer system. Was there socks. Saw locate locate passing kite nap an anti guerrilla locate. Yeah now but don't say wasn't whole domain. Some different them. No one on dead but as a kid to men who was like totally like like like like expiration eld three nine sniper. Tns's zoema boys man like you know now agree yes in audio reached out with it who know ale to actually know sniper sniper. I knew sniper. But i never actually met e. l. I never met l. but the ones from and that's rich r h because i was a little kid nicely vicks tools. Crib enriched semi marsh in. Because at first. I was tagging with shoot da so rich. Put me onto the marsh inc and all that nice always go to rich craven increment and all that you know which had richards always go to celebrities the rob. Everybody agrees all right. Well now you an easier. Cousins boom is converted to the street bomb. The gates empty fucking created the big giant tags which a legendary. That's where i honestly thought the john meisel it. Because the whole bush avenue myrtle avenue graham avenue knickebocker avenue grow avenue avenue. You had smashed every fucking gate high black tags or three. Ah so so like. I grew up on. So now is smashes shit so they did Did you get the recognition like quickly or did you feel like you had to go through a lot of fucking like a lot of years now. Now you know what not right. First of all some people's careers on first first bomb because nobody off rose bone. You'll be covers so much territory. Man and took probably likes not even not even a whole month to king the whole hall of all that the whole. It was like just so simple so easy. There was no competitive. There was no competition because nobody was out there. You feel what. I'm saying in everybody who came. Follow off blueprint behind us. We followed nobody up saying there was nobody out in doing it like that. You know like. I said i seen naked tags a neighbor. That's next coming from the doors. More things over there. So i got a spec for all writers in graph but but i always have respect for old came before me man but if it wasn't for those who came before me there will be no me. They'll be no. You never be no us. You feel what i'm saying so crazy 'cause like you know I used to watch all the rights man. Ragging i remember is the wizards no allows low kid man knowing that i know it i was specked. All these rights man not seen them doing so we trade days and i told you we rocking trains soon. You know what i'm saying in. But i was. I was more geared towards the streets so people fail to speak about an history is about us being so oz because different abbott. Because you've got social media so now with social media people taking pictures of this and that and we didn't really have much to pitches and stuff like that and all this is like fuck just going right mansa my i love bomb if i had to choose from each other. What my own bombing now me. And that's what it was man for loving grass will your like so some things i want to save. Want to smoke in home. So i say say say whatever you wanna say brown like this speech wanna know you let us know. Go job your day. Maybe yeah so it's like felt like me and like you know like i'm mike tyson man. I never forget this video. Watch with mike tyson so tyson before you started. Boxing he of the Muhammad ali came spokesman so muhammad. Look a mike. Tyson looked up to muhammed on filling. I'm saying so. What's his name. Negative not the on. How beat muhammad ali what was knocked down on my like that space yet. I was face so now. Mike watched the whole history space. You know what i'm saying. But at his time he came in his nfl out. So that's the way i looked at it. When we came into the graph game. You'll it was like there was a lot that came before us but the difference with us because we did the unthinkable something totally different and it's like not respect the coach man coach. That's my coat me. You know what i'm saying and the coat. Low voter side is booked from legend. He said i was gonna quit waiting feeding easy john. Josh five came up that took graffiti to the next level. Did what i've said and you know we did balls. Pj every ball with cold with echo npc. Three non main. You but me personally like like it wasn't too many rights that spread myself out. Were writing with. Because when when when i'm writing with easy easy jaws. Were easy to go. I know i'm good. I got look behind me. I gotta look around. Ain't gonna have none of that. 'cause i know he got my back you know and like lately added was came out doing a major but most of the time and i'll be by myself. No i'd be by myself. One time i did get caught on this era when i was It was easy sinful. We was down by bali. No so long. As i've seen this gate so i was. Y'all gotta have this gate so easy easy to stay on the corner send forth on the side on the way these cops for millions of poor governor always shit but that ain't never ain't never happened back in the days it's kind of crazy though because We should just like like we should just like like walk. Appointed gates man like like was it. Nothing man in our shit was so much out game mounting and it was like the fucking gates without name on so a is like we quit at eighty nine because there was so much we did and it wasn't no snuck nothing else to do. I was with the climate on. No i have to do all that you feel what i'm saying. Hey don't audit. Because i didn't have to do that for recognition fame you know. We stood chalkboards. To the trains. You have chalkboards. Some every station and was hit. Let me answer. It was like a solo day or so sore us. Rest and peace jaws and easy. No rider was all city. The way i did it and there was no other. Trade is on there was no no. I see i've probably seen a nigga one saying here once. I did on what he was doing by drunk coming from the girl crib coming from the layup but nobody nets covering. I'm talking about ensemble. Maytag may go with straight. Going gonna train see us. She only trained get off the train. Come outside not should outside somebody everywhere. What bus you got mad and bras playing. Wherever are who had usc me. You see judge eddie way talk about that everywhere so nobody did that like that fucker. These do a nobody really. Nobody really knew who was no in. Most people was gonna come to that three yard gain to that three yard. It was a whole different ballgame back then nominee so most of the ball with us in on three yards. Man i was all hood. Dudes man you know. He's h tag up man. He's doing a lot of you. Know with some griller rats dunes man you know went on but at but at the end of the day may i just i just love the hip hop man. Love love hip hop men in love with graph coach. Man i met a lot of people. Chul-man like boy kay Respect number while down. Forty i don amid sam hustling down amid sound. So some boy was ill. I've you see care. One danielle's edwards. I was like i saw welcome now. Forty seven street one day. So i see you saw approach. Maybe he was eight go he was like yeah up so i was thinking tag fees so he was a say in an hour when he was who you say josh. The real josh. Five my vote on a piece of paper so he saw smell and whatever so i gave them my number. He never called me. So i saw again i gave him. He gave me his number. So from that point we used to go to power play studio and hang out with him. So i i introduced this one too easy in our getting locked up because k. Arrests was trying to put together project on build little war some grad phony and he wanted to collect some graph riders to do a video duck down. I was shot up in the bronx. So while i was locked up easy easy took over the project and easy entered into introduce arrest coal. Tk and all these other do snow. So that's how that went. No but chris. That's my boy man. And i'm a fab five. Freddy that's my boy. To respect me fat by freddie 'cause i remember i had a situation where i was in on henry studio that meets so we all books you come inside to sub. We ought studio. There's a little thing where gotta tag your name more. So a kid named reese came with some kid. That tag josh one so they were not seen the kid. Josh one on the thing you know put my box cut out. And they both ran out the studio so chase both of them have now streep so. I was down low. We subset of club called the on amazon. Was meanwhile boy outlaw emma. Boy mk so Fab five freddy approach me. Was i going just five hours and give us up. He was fat. Five freddie joe on nato you was in illinois so he had reached with him so he was like yo. You're what happened with. Josh's explained to move on so then i squash that north one at like that 'cause fabs cooling it wasn't really about not just like i m standard josh. Go but plus. When i was younger i was. I was more rash was more like ready to go now but i think more now no because i got some less than what i have younger. So let me ask you this. How long was home along with your run then from ucla. Stop to eighty nine. How long was the all city run own. I would say like Eighty now when i started in the early eighties now for net ever did i was probably like I think from eighty four eighty four eighty five up to eighty nine funeral for years. Some jaws in easy laid down did you. Did john know that you always wave for the next generation. Of course. I did. Because of because i've seen that was was i was bugging. I seen him trays. Skin switched over me. And i was like yo you know anybody even know what to do man so we. We blew the breath of life back into graffiti man and then then when people followed behind us it was like at a whole lot of catching up to do so like no disrespect. The by a lot of stuff are sore like. I'm trying to serve advocate but it but it really wasn't impressed me because unless you do something different man. Something that i do them like. Oh should i go fuck with that but they were just doing what we were doing trying to catch up with us you know so and like i said there was there was there was. Nobody was following. It was just us. You know we just is going everywhere. I'm like go ahead be going if you're going ahead we're going there and that's eight. Wait no in between some things i got. I kept getting locked up in the back and forth in all. Then i want up man like in africa. Oh you was on. Why did stretch. They had like a four and a half nine sentence of the five and a half out of that came out. then i got lots of the florida. They like almost three years in florida. Came back the year violation york so a had a lot of little things with penitentiary. No in on. There's a lot of writers man like know that we very responsible for their career track. That's my boy to trans to write with his chew in on. I ain't gonna talk about this cat man that do best in show. I'm best down one forty ninth street riding spent you know what i'm saying so i seen him and he was like yoyo resolve. He wanted to meet us up so easy nephews to wanna meet nobody easy we talk too much you throw saying he just laid back so anyway we put on on in a whip now me put him out. They're like apprentices something on me no see what he could do and you know and i felt numb being straight man when he does interview may he was like your or like. I'm sitting here. And i'm watching it like they watching me right now and i'm like wow kamal but one thing i doing stand like nobody wants to be number twenty. Everybody wants to be the top five. Did what i'm saying. Everybody wanted to be number one of the top five so i understand people get on the interviews. You know. that's sean. That's the time to speak. You know but this served dangerous. People want to know the layout on. What's this. what's that how you do it. Who inspired you or on. What led you do this that and that's like an and i can't understand with somebody who like straight up. Man was like yoga. When when some writers was in a state of infancy with ain't even what to do and i'm like come on jumping the whipping so what i'm saying so in but at the same time to like my attitude used to be different from the way my attitude is right there so some may have felt Horse felix awards me. So i can understand when they get on video. I again like what did what i'm saying. 'cause i used to joke on the writing now nick out no because we get mad but someone would want to satan it because they want to stay in whip did what i'm saying so at the end of the day. That's how that wing but no it's like know i just i just feel graph man like Disallowed things man that home. A lot of people like like the newer generation of people coming up now they They might have not seen a lot of these things you know. There's not a lot of things. That's that's that's catch catches for the internet for people to see certain byles so you know things for them to understand what's going on or what happened back then in in you got some writings man. Bites are monthly. Lead wasn't no motherfucking legend man. And that's something that does that really piss me off man for real because some some some some dues take a flake or grabbing the old flakes. And i know what he's doing this they probably had some running a one little run and once today but the people who don't know dat they'll just be like oh shit because they never lived it. They never been in the they never seen. She smashed out like that and then they'll just take it and run with it. No so that's like a title man that people just saying these things they everybody know legis- man for real man. And you know. But i try not to be too hard on so dues. Manning's going to be making is no no eighty nine eighty nine ninety so now the nineties comes in. And that's when my era came in and you know we grew up of one shit. So nigga try to you. Know what i'm saying. You gotta come kill all aids on all the ads. You gotta fuck it. Have sutton mad big so nicosia. Dasha a nice fat cap. You know what i'm saying. We copy just now know so did you. Did you look at graffiti in the nineties. After you stop the oh yeah looking. Feeble easy wasn't incre feed. Easy was like he was so straight from graffiti man. In the one time i came out of jail you come on go right now. The best thing gonna go buy. It was like many tagging men woman. And i'm done with that man. No these fucking maybe. We did some Down looking when he's around runaway. The way we're going to stay in and on with a low ceremony neighbor like that man. That was it though but an easy to stop right. He wasn't thinking about graph. None of that man and on your moved to virginia. This is like a two thousand to be disregard sutton out gave the low tags out there. You know what on but after that it was like Is to watch graffiti. But i wasn't really into like active bombing knows like i remember one time when i v viva was from rome away to from down smith projects. You know what my way. Leave at on on a state on it but on. He seemed me one day and he was like yo josh. What up man movie. One of right with me. I really wanna go right man but he was like oklahoma and so i said i co on bike distant tags. Vote over the bridge to brooklyn fixing everything. But like i said you know own son said a little adji. Join our same thing where i would actually feel. And there's not to anger manage. Like if i fuck fuck which you know when i see some writers off off off the books off the record and help like josh. What up man. You're icon with legend. You this who signed my book do that but when now really feel like own because like most of the people all right i would connect with them on a personal level. You did what i'm saying. So these be fam. You feel what i'm saying. So when i when i when when i was little views and i'm like i hope that the me so i lack crazy did you see up in. There is anybody who did you like notice anybody in the nineties. I this knicks killing shea or this next shit. All of fifa was dylan's fee. Covers territory on. James culbertson On saint on astro all wellesz on those some may and then you have certain people may like like little ravel areas man like in the bronx like my boy. Approach me rest in peace flasher tian nation. You know that's my blind note him personally. I knew preach meeting pat suazo but own after a while it started in the mumbo jumbo. You can't even read negates. The gay think just cut it up. Say it was it was it was all you started getting crazy way out of hand man but the way i used to feel regardless of whatever you know people's responses would people were saved me as they some neo say with with with acts about home about him making making music so he was fond to them. He said he's joe Because he was a songwriter. So it was like you'll look mostly songs you hear on the radio songs are wrote so i'm still number one so when i look at all of this when i know where i know where it came from and it came from me. You feel what i'm saying and is like my legacy goal you said. And that's the way. I look at my. Is you know like you know but on a lot of people who are just street up you know what i'm saying. There's only only like a couple of them that i can name. That could be in your arom cope. I coped you know what i'm saying. We had easy do the astronauts that we had. tk the god of course Do do you realize how like people look at you. Like the people that sit in the hip hop slash on graph community. You see like you said like even the rappers be like. oh shit s you like when. When did you realize like oh shit like my work like nigga nigga realized recognize. It's like like i say we. We came in kale man like like. I'm mike man not on some may. We should just catching the tax reports. We came in heavy hidden leaving no room for for for for for no no mistakes man and we just kept hitting delivering delivery. I'm talking my not. Just me have nooks and crannies side blocks. Everything meant everything man. It's fucking cages. Ran out man. Like surprising wouldn't scratching me. I mean that's what it was. Though man will jaaz. Tell me toss about jobs more arrested. God bro you know like like jaws like how did you meet jaws. What josh john's lived on because is originally from brooklyn ez's from brooklyn and then he moved uptown to haul in jars used to own live like three blocks over. You know so you know what is this is crazy solely years. I forgot who met john. I meet or easy but he was rocking them. Three yards yard is close to where where on easy we stand up. One hundred fortieth st so having movie will be when we came in contact with him. That's when he was daikyo because he started like. I told you on pry. He was seeing these tags all over. He was like do some auto. Josh crew realize bombs when when some of the other do sienese tags big tags all around home it was like yo who the fuck is these negatives like an eight thought. It was bogged down. Like you think it's tagging -opays like they didn't understand it but then judge smart enough. He was like these they. Don't you know so national jobs. like kicking. Wanna go. Like i said he says oh man. I'm gonna take three. Y'all gonna rock this out. Take a city streets. Knowing on an all i wanna give a minimum of jim star me. I want to say what up to on on. Avoid deal seem something on or swells man. I wanna forget nobody. But what our care of my boy phobia rest in peace to pg that was my board actually actually pg taught me how to do allow staff am. He was pg on. That was my nickel braille. Man yeah yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah yeah that was my boy man no vested. Pc passed away man. I kind of like hit me hall. That what i'm saying but on josh josh josh used to say josh goal of eight bodyman i'm on one child was physically so back leo india known. Somebody comes from under to train. I'm thinking it's police. So i went to guinea but it was. John won't five six so josh john had a bunch of them. Green open layup in jobs going over all ships. Your job has such a up with this no one bashing properly when it came the handsome. Some of your josh man. Jaws stole quick whatever man like he had sketched nut down on paper. Mantis hands extensive. Man you had the role han style. Yeah he was you know he was really nice. Many had a lot of talent minutes. And i know he was still here today. Man a whole futuristic different level whitman. No and i'm i was up north too like he wrote me. A letter was something nissan. I got your whole damn so as soon as you get out do the game. Thank you so i was like. Yeah got it anyway. You know but fortunately man that that that bomb happen. We patched away put on on. It's like lower. No easy easy. Came back pick up the whole that shit bash like manning is excited and i'd met easy Selected time easy came back already been really harsh always like feed them right. So i was with a couple of you know Heavy head is just so we go to a graph show milwaukee. Now i'm drunk on my your widow real right and then somebody's like your ear and he's hitting a black book and i'm like what you late in the nuggets are easy. Yo my joy and all you're right on window go god. Y'all yoke is a. They'll that's kind of crazy because like easy. He know maybe like a nobody. We most of the time like josh. It'll tell him upstanding all right. no on. My opponent was on one hundred game cool. Yeah we don't follow pain soon. All seen the background lower north came here with the government. Stuff here got a little abstract. Ain't going over a little bit so that the other one right next to a big one. Yeah this way the other way the other way. This is way yeah right. There is crazy with all the faces or mashed up as crazy. Yeah but i've been doing like off and stuff like that like when you when you win streak bombing i got nichols. It'd out the cause of the pandemic mann during films on a game laying. We had no time for that shit. We just hit it. Acquitted may just keep going. You know what's crazy to your waist like me and jars used to actually fight over spots when it gave me we used to fight a response. When against me i i went up to the spot. Start doing a big change. And i'm like what you're doing now me and we used to argue all the time all the time. He's all about that man about certain spots me and you know it was crazy. Crazy man went on. But i met a lot of lot of a lot of good. Riders may on spectrum. Him boy man wanted to avoid to altea w respect man. No no my top. Ten favorite writers out top negatives jazz easy Leave all men is. You've got europe five more all joma five six. I love stores. I love tall john on six. Your john won't five six in our more or less or how many more got four more on though cope in the copa name. He was he was a legend donors. Thing dogs to how. I got three left on. has frayed six ship. Kneel dan. Because i'm because i'm because now my mind's going way back because it was like now is different writers out now man a fuck with don don dondi wealth Prints from ea from ea crew escape odds a focal prints to our on. How many more more on get less slot on A voice kinda hard. May's own that figure up to come back to that one just keeps going. We'll come back. What about we got a dope. Throw up. I mean now. We went back when when you think about who who's thrown a right. I like i like all. I like cobras. Lords always like pj. Thorpe's i like seeing the corpse on was like minto oops like isto. Abs are like on because like with with certain writers had where certain way it was so neat like shoot stints on the fucking train. They were saying. That's the type of shit i like. They were saying it was like you wanna copies on trade something. I'm here And we'll have some flash dorms made on. I'm not up and chelsea jones with the bible. The box john cheese. Don't mind that should there was classic. Your wellesz on no no stories like chew at it. I like his stones. 'cause i used to see 'cause that caught my attention because i see now i really wouldn't see it a lot though but i will see tonight's prime spots non me the prom. Spidey hate was like good prominent spots that kind of stood out no and yet mixed his staff i don. I never met him before. I don't know whether he's an old raido. 'cause i never seen it back in the days but he had a status tran transition from a new school with like a little bit of old school load twists with it. You know and. I kinda ducked that yeah. He's out of town will swim. Yeah aw on. I like the l. Stoves ios join like e. O if ethos. I loved them. Only only three dollars eleven That's not boyd. So man peace peace to. Oh man my boy toolman only way back down over embodying project done over there and pushing on. That was years when i was in the eighties because he used to write my boys. So from w no own wellesz. A avoi- fix fx. They used to be simple as partner back in the days. No yes nice little. Fx does not to train one time. Go right with us you know. That's another thing toolman name. They could become dangerous. It's arms so i'm gonna one time i was the one seventy fifth layer. And i'm hitting the cat walks. Hit a bomb and florida so easy somewhere else. Getting lost in his shit. Now i mean to smash shut up. So i see some low nigga short little do brenna down cat will kill so i'm thinking it's five. Oh so i'm like yo seems like which read. She writes josh five. Tdm three while although beat. So when. I said that he was a old shoes were so when i came around upside the train you'll know lives probably about on like twenty five niggers overlay twenty-five dues over there with bats chains nathan. It was laced so we roach and it was a bunch of writers so these negatives like all ready ready ready say nine means which out right so once once i set my name in easy came around and easy said his. Name's ceo world believing to attack on train shit so then. Everything was good. Don't man but not. I was up actress. Yeah no because you know. I mean what you do when you outnumbered you. They want him saying he won't go out though. But you want to take a temporary air but you know but you never lose if you go out over on but butte sick of attack were laws. That night man. You know who to win other way. Nobody everything was good. Though on a member on. I wasn't dead or not. Tk in on josh's ran into catholic. Pj who's idell. We went to seventy fifth seen pj in their own. What we all not mean. But i know that own i think cap was going over easy stones or something like that on a number line on. Pj was putting on pisa for china's name so on the highway. So jars and the teaser. Boy you know. I was like I see pj in front of building in the bronx or webster avenue. When i was staying over there in He was robbed one. It was in the car park in front. So i was like. Yeah we designed on why you put the pisa front of his name. So he was announced. Fucking No anything good so i was hold on one second officers. Get josh were quick. Talk show when. I went upstairs. Get jobs at the jobs. Tight mini came downstairs about time downstairs. Pj off no. That was the end of that knowing. And i remember on this nigga. Oh what's his name sees the. He used to be ragging josh allen. Have you ever seen for as easy from us yet. You know he was gonna walk all josh. I'm as he was all a city just off jaws going on josh. It so own ran into him. One day down in on by west fourth street. I see my boy live from the retards. That's my work. Special to laugh. In home. When i when i approached on cbs's all those i think he's spanish to some have black white whatever so he was looking nervous when lives ideal. Josh five with up. So so i think laugh told me on that sees right. So shaw man dan. I'm like joe. So did he pull out box cutter backing up. And all this me run. You know but ain't no crazy. I don't mean he was joswiak over one of my old tags that net nobre none but now we're not but nothing really crazy happened. maybe no in wells on. Jags has so much to say. Man your own or david waiting on monday about now on the graffiti now. Now do you notice anybody. Oh google i like google google's doing stay man respect for him and that's my boy gogi. Now me your google's doing his thing man and i love dogs man let him does way put all that. Dana gabby put together real nice. No we'd be delighted to give him easy and calm when we did some light. Somerville light down by the west side highway. No on but you know. We never will begin after that though. I like them. I like them. George i like all dc overdue do seo. I like the always there. But i like to me personally. I like the first one he was with the low face thing in it. I mean does there are like the other ones. I'm i'm being notice respect. I didn't like the nor wants to point the s. I'll go to somebody else doing it. You know but. I like the first ones and i was like dude. I wouldn't tell them rock them. I jones minimum joints classic. I liked joins man on. Who else own. Wow it was a couple of other cats in debt on that. Caught my attention but but dim dues. Dave was mainly was. I really like right now. Stood out stood out to me. You know and they was like all seem nam and they was doing like like pretty much like what was different with like said like we had tags on style. I don't know what the fuck names thinking like. I said i would not sit there in on all the time doors backpack for this gates like that and i know that time in panic ios. You'll panic and gould them cleaning his right there. A bomb like ninety s negative. That's why i love them for ed. Yeah yeah they were going hall man also peer. I like i like i like page stories. Trump kid no on. I like to like how it's just the way. How like how hits like like prime spots that he hits the spots where a nose just hit away of hearts he got to go all the extra stuff me hit like nice. Those spots where his name stands out no but It was like these reese mayor we used to it was crazy. Man used to walk yards. So it'd be so cold and it three yards may where my fingers was. No we just hadn't train cares and just crazy. Yeah you need to you. Don't think you can come back and one hundred thousand one hundred thousand fill-ins real quick. Just no nah. But i might do not by top those tags then because i felt like to me like like from came from with me being me like i was i was comfortable like throwing a few tags up and not doing a whole bunch of sito's like a a a more bigfoot and like oh should i this incessant wise shit or josh five tag. You know ed i felt like i already put my recognition already all already made my bones in software like i did with. You have to do it another time like that. No but not saying that. No you know always got and should always keep that know. Always keep walkers army outdoor lou tags and i and i felt more comfortable during those tags with the mock stuff like that. But i probably wouldn't want to do that like that again like that. No no a pirate. Those hin h. dot feature on a number right that people could by your your canvases stick apax and all that shit from you. All that all admitted je digitally a porn job. Five gimme i got. I got anything. Stick apax get campuses men. I got whatever meal you can commission. If whatever man abstract do mainstream off you know you could find a found. That on the josh five slash. John live. But i got john because my name is joining us from me. But i got the lead comes from the latin word valor which means bravery embattled so the conjunction into two represents. The was in life that are four brave me embattled. So that's why i'm john valid. No and like. I had a couple of pieces in side galleries. You know but it wasn't nothing like like like like stuff here got you know it would just like some tax american simple stuff in. But i didn't want to come out with like with. My cabbage is actually really with as josh odd. Because like when you come on as graffiti us inside the gallery was a whole different scenery. You know because you got collected in sometimes when you do shows with graffiti only people that most people come in is graph writers. It's like you meet a war for nineteen right as mitch you know people autographs and ain't nobody buying them pains man from five six thousand. No ninety digs coming to drink some wine eastern crackers man signs books so but also when you get you get into that field with cameras pains when you come as graffiti boxes you win and put you in a little box as just the yard so i'm audience. That knows how to do graffiti as well. So you have a broader audience. Did when i'm saying you know and you'll be more people like that you know Is it is like some graffiti artist. Like someone unless you are a prominent name that stood out. Then people i quote is doing the truth man and he got the footage to back. It ain't none of that. Fake legend low pitches in source magazine. He's doing anybody's going. Oh shit this guy. My way spain. France and i go to sky's the guy not even actually really nobody but at the same time was like not really like the way i'm saying because i'm like joking with it though but like like everybody has donated to grab man. I don't care just tag on a staircase man. We all one union. We all want family. That's a look at. It is not that you had more than this person. That person had less than you. Because you know i. it's been sound. Why couldn't draw a enjoy straight line. But i just had that ambition in that zeal to to to talk to always want to go next number with everything no democratic low now fade out loud wrong blackout long ago before we jump off and just say in your for on gear. The legacy behind us should is like Oddly one of the biggest trios and like movements in the whole graffiti history. And get a but you but you know it's like Like a lot of people don't even know man like that. We that we started that that we started like a lotta people know. There's some people just keep his silence itself. For whatever reasons is you know and like. I said you always like crazy because i was the mastermind behind it man. It was all my thoughts man. It was killed. This will be going. Because i've seen vision you know and i put my cousin all jail zeal and we took it from them. We just started rocking steady. Like bread. dads boys man. We just kept going no in on us what it is man for real man in in our coverage the get knocked can get locked up some bullshit but you what you don't man how you doing you gotta be a vet at it man. That's what you don't. But i'm trying to move more to a more jim. It failed man all paint stuff like that instead of running around to gassing we wish mine continued braulio are is everybody. Got us a like you said. Go to g the birch saying you they need to make a documentary about the fucking movement. That started about three. Bro i guess. Yeah i guess this. Somebody reached out to me men about a documentary man. That's in the makings. My head tax too. That's my boy two piece tag tag. A smart board man on this probably have a few days when i forgot it wasn't on purpose man Documentary out anyway movie man because the people we see that the nosy bro. That should be equal at the three kids. No no no does crazy job for. He passed away. One of the come out with a novichok. Three kings three three k in the eighties own tice had on t k had. He had told me easy. He was like yo on you. Guys wanna film young. But he wasn't interested in them. You just tagging up. I wasn't thinking about selling cam careless. What he's doing. I think his name is big on could make money bomb making bombing nosso holland into just bomb man. You know maybe back then. Evocative things different up. I didn't different but everything happens for a reason. You know but we still here. We still alive. Vive maybe represent jasmine for every time you know at that time bro. Yeah year so you also do you have any before we before we wrap it up. It's and all tam got shot. I may by megs like you. Easy easy easy. Easy ma'am boy. Do again my boy on my boy jim star. Auntie kay negative my big bro for real men t caveman yummy nations respected. Man know that was wild boy back in the day to get caught them some different. Yeah young. You also made for on keeping lobbying for keeping everything keeping the coach at a government with everything man because right now we ain't get a lot of spots inches in places when you meet writers you just got to catch them when you catch them all and it was different back then. It was like a lot of prompt spots where people gathered at. And we don't really have that. And i feel it should be more unity amongst artists man. One come through. Pull the next brother pull them to you. Know you see struggling with that man. Got talent pull them through. No i don't know fill. People should be advocate mad. Because you made it to a certain you know. I mean that's just what i feel member different but some people had to passionate people like fuck that i'm it fully. W.'ll get it from the done. We know what i mean. That's them man. You know but. But that's just what i feel. Maybe we should all work together make making just like one family man like a secret society. If people don't do goofy little like crazy buggies four one arouse in easy more she. It was crazy. Use the signalman. You can't trust me all this crazy. Shit man it was loud man. No i hope i covered is no man. I don't getting more questions or whatever man nor to to destroy fade out man. You know you willing to act man. No man wants to jump off right now so a neutral my brother. Thank you for calling comment on. It was an honor. Thank you so much. I found out right now. Monica that show that she was crazy. The you drop the salutes. A fucking mark. You know what i'm saying. You created racial. I did don't want to say one thing to this is crazy like about cole. Coat my boy man like like not even just blonde wise man like like from the eighties men and people trying to throw dirt on me. Personally i never known cold for nonetheless. Should they be saying about him. But i feel sometimes when you gotta status you want so level and that people wait on that negative. Try to shut your name and those stores that you wouldn't be like in an we'll make room is not have something to substantiate. They would've saying no so. No mama spec lot the head man because he was even maintained though you know like a lot of writers man there was some that really eight that did lose something but there was no real heavy hitters man like as hit his men man in one of jail man on from from from wild cruel man like you had. We had a lot of those quick. Rt w i'm and when i was a kid like these guys really going in man like no know you had the size bones. Ad tax esteem. You had brooklyn on ai on you know in this own man. You had a lot of man. I was doing certain things in my f- often. Les to at fall had had a lot of though. Yeah the ggv the double j.'s. The ends but i heard nobody talk about these people that actually really put in work. No and you know you have my boys man for smith. Projects stay over. There really was at you know. Go four bb. Bill blass nolan. Do they used to buy jays names. They used to ride the subway. We know also piece shit. You've been changed living around your way. Bushwick sumi low short strands. cat house. Mom void sue and my boy de may from an okay crew in congo demand icy demand. Long time man. He was locking with tedium to know in peace. Shammar respects. you shammar negative no too. I got your message. Man in on some some of the rights man like we lost contact with living in jail. So nichols strung out on drugs nichols may be dead or you know Track dues down man. Some such you know like me. I would be jail time and get locked up and make the catch. No now go my mind straighten. everything's go man at all. Lack of the stuff's behind me man is about moving forward. Excelling me no so anyway. Minutes of pleasure man. You had me on the show man. You know the specs. Y'all may twenty one. Little on doubt doubt i was going to save more totally down and my big bro. Tk was now. Don't don't don't do it like that man. Get a couple of gunshots man for your youtube man. Thank you to many keep. Keep the real. Ira bombing on keep on your show. Miniature legends man. You know that the how it is made no hand picking on minutes. Get them freestyle and looking to get on. The camera will work this thing here man. It ain't come by like like for nothing man and people when people deserve it was somebody's dues man they deserve may no because they putting in work. Because you don't make no difference man like your old. 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Foxworth Friday: Coach K to retire, the decline in entertaining sports

The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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Foxworth Friday: Coach K to retire, the decline in entertaining sports

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My name is bomani jones. thanks for listening. Wherever you get your podcast rate us review us give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is foxworth fridays. dominic foxworth was going on man. Nothing happy to be here as usual. I have ask you about. This is want to throw this out here. Briefly you man leukel house elena. I've been a luca. Hold out. Because i'm a hold out on everybody. I've been burned too many times by getting out ahead on these things right. Do that do make shots is cancelled christmas. Not a thing that makes many shots as people seem to realize that he does. If fact mate. I was actually thinking about him. And the mavericks with the whole mice jesse Retirement thing 'cause you and i grew up at a time. Where like do something. Yeah and whether you like with him. It was a completely a totally different situation. You realize though that especially in the last ten years there's a whole generation of kids that did not grow up hating do like not that every kid grew up hating do but they have not been something to test in the last ten years. It feels like everybody kind of hated do. But maybe it's just the circles that i was running in and you wanna do person. It seemed like even duke was the opposition to the fact five. And i know that that doesn't add up necessarily but when you think of what is duke basketball back. Then you think of the fab five was to antidote to it. I like found myself. Identifying with the fab. Five and also aspiring to be more culturally and socially and image wise. Even if i was not that. That's more what i wanted to be and i felt like everybody in the culture. Kinda cool cool so even if you're a middle aged dude a woman who's a teenager like it didn't feel like there was just a certain subset of the society that hated to either. You went to duke or you hate it do well. You got to forget this though. Bet did as white folks right. That's what i meant. I thought the white folks were to say like they recognize what cool is they wanted to be cool. Who but they also wanted to be. Why due to a good at basketball right like like this is what do basketball did especially in the eighties. Because i think the context that gets lost in. This is that in the nineteen eighties. College basketball was still integrating. not that. there weren't black people on every team necessarily right but the idea that somebody had a team with nothing but black players like georgetown was a revolutionary idea. Still in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s right and then that started building up and getting bigger and bigger than you started having more teams. That win at didn't really had no white dudes and then do came around and so will you say they are the antidote to the fab. Five holdup dot. Let's think about this for second. Okay this is again something you don't really have really after the mid nineties which is programs that we just readily associate with blackness or teams five that we readily associated with blackness louisville. Basketball used to be that because the thing like kentucky folks used to call them rather than the cardinals the blackbirds right because they had all these black dudes on the team that's do played against in the nineteen eighty-six championship game by. I get up to success now to think about that time and like who like the black teams. Were right not richardson. And in forty minutes a hill. John chainey and those temple teams the fab five. Un l. v. georgetown in the morning you to the matombo time in all of that stuff dog duke ran through all of them every single one of them rant and this is the same time that you got the celtics would all those dudes right and it's unc. To which like wasn't a black school but it was the black school right in tobacco triangle. Or whatever they call it. The tech triangle down there blackness is a key part of the history of north carolina. Basketball like smith vinogradi alantic coast conference and everything that comes down to doll. Dim white dude ran through all of my christian leitner. All of them shack gave it to him morning. Gave a tool larry. Johnson took tales too. But larry johnson gave a tool jamal. Mashburn gave it tool. We can go up and down the list. They gave it to any team that we will like. Yo that one's ours. I guess there's a symbolic thing that a certain group would feel really good about watching those moments especially as as we see black people kind of taken over basketball and they gave a tool with elbows like it wasn't like duke beating. You was not on some. We are going to out skill you and beat you with our superior intellect. They were like. We ain't scared y'all right by douse the big thing. Because then you can watch. Why do is play basketball against black news. It's a little fear factor that comes in there. Duquesne have none of it like the teams that do that made them famous like maytham. A program dane have none of that. They was ready to scrap it out which you right-back that's funny. 'cause you're right. They became like the private school. Hoity toity kind of like. That was the image of them but that wasn't holiday. Played at least at that time they were down for all of it and you made a point. I guess it was a wednesdays. Mondays pa you said something. You might have been quote somebody else but this reminded me of it. Is that the racism and one. Yeah you say when your friend said that is not that. The racism in boston is different is just that they fight and boston may express it is different. Like boston. isn't necessarily more racist than say dc. Where i live right now is just the people daisy right to do a little quiet. Yes whisper amongst our friends. What we're thinking in boston. Nikola tell you to your face and be fully willing right out. Black doesn't scare me not just willing to scrap it out looking to hoping yes right. There's nowhere else on earth. Or at least i can speak for the united states. There's no city that i've ever been in. I'm sure you've grown up in texas. Maybe it's different. No major metropolitan area. I've ever been in the general feeling from the white society is i. We scrap it out like that is their reputation. They're proud of. Yeah why folks in. Houston i they down to give it to you. Ain't talking about scrapping. nothing. You know what i'm saying. Why fight you can squeeze. That's the outlook on it. Also you made a good point. So like danny ferry and jay bilas sorry like those are kind of one archetype of it but they are not christian. Leitner bobby hurley. We're like you know about bobby hurley's daddy being basketball coach at saint anthony's but saint things is not was not some fancy school like prep school in jersey city that was working with some horror scrabble. Young men like it was a low. Tuition jesuit. school eventually is had to close it down because they just could not keep it open at the prices that they were charging in order to achieve their goal. And bobby hurley's daddy. When he was not coaching basketball was probation officer. Bright a christian leitner is not of duke stock for lack of a better term. Like that's not what he comes from so like that's what they were and so i totally get it if you're white do and you love basketball and you are watching like we ain't really out here no more. You know what i'm saying like not we not really making our mark. No more in do comes around and this is all the personality of she like. Everybody's going to get out here and talk about what a great coach he was and they'll try to like sanitize is up everybody. I feel like he's missed. All the fun of chassis in the fun of it is right. Dare i brought these dudes in here and we will be all. Y'all watch see what happens. I mean i get almost identify with that. Even though i'm not white obviously but like i understand the sentiment of coming into somewhere feeling like you are the minority. Because you are feeling like. They're assumptions about you because they you are shepherded. Everybody's face because the subsidies the why shoot but they knock down for this action like you know what we got out grits. You and i mean. I didn't see it that way. When i was young because there was like duke university white dude. They became the like establishment within basketball to a lot of young. Why do than i guess. Elementary and middle school. We didn't have white people in our school until i went to a magnet school and high schools. Either like drive thirty minutes to school every day and and there it was probably like forty percent white but prior to that when i was like watching college basketball it was his all black people in school and we saw duke representing the stuff that we all felt like. We were raging again. Yes in add to it by the way not just what you described about what the why now add to it. The filling losing everything. But we get this right right like at that whole capote and so to me. That's kind of what you give a do basketball with black people. It's interesting because there is a group of black people of a certain age. Who are duke fans like. These are people who were now in their late forties and the fifties. Because they were johnny dawkins fans you know. Because before duke became a thing you could root for do can be black and not be a problem because the announces hadn't just decided that they go for duke in every game because it was they. Why do i don't think any of us who grew up hating do would have hated duke nearly as much if we have to listen to billy packer addict by town and everybody else act like they went out here hack it. All the time act christian leitner didn't step on that do chess right. Didn't act like these cats. Were actually saying as the do that. You were rooting against. They just happen to be white. Is there a modern day equivalent or since college basketball is so transient and everyone's turn to one and done and i guess nba also people switched teams. But i'm just imagining that. There were assumptions. Made if you weren't from durham. Your daddy didn't go to do. If i met you in high school or middle school and was like i love duke. I'll have no affiliation with duke. But i love do. You are telling me something you are. As a person is their modern day equivalent whereas like if you choose to be a fan in his team you are absolutely televisa. No not really. Although hey some point it might be the mavericks. I don't know why nobody talking about this man. You look up at do. I looked the mavericks now. I didn't do it this game. The game he plays out too tired and too late but the game before three on the floor at all times right and we just to act like this isn't going on. I'm not saying it's a problem to have three ideas on the floor at all. Times is a little different shots in the crowd. The mavericks no black person who jersey. Where is all luca and bobo. And i just don't understand. They shouldn't even make bovin jerseys regular people sizes. You should only be wearing a bow bond jersey if you on size look right the patriots because when you just said the jersey thing it reminded me of the fact that like when you go to patriots games or you see the patriots at super bowl and see their fans walking around like you hard pressed the bottom of jersey looking forward chong real hard the chung when i went to the super bowl in atlanta i saw h. and versus. Where did sean jersey. Nah i don't think it was pablo because he was with me. Now yes as it right like that would be but no. They don't the patriots. 'cause i don't know nobody that roots form that ain't local like it's interesting thing about the patriots is over all that time. They never became like the steelers. Did cowboys did you meet somebody. Who is forty five years old. And they spent their whole life in the mid west and they have no connection to new england their parents lived in nebraska and they grew up in nebraska. Neyla hey who you're full for. Hey i'm a big pat guy so you try to tell me something. aren't you. Express it something more because if you choose to be associated with the empire that has no like black stars and what's real four like at least we're duke. I can look at it. And i can see what there was to root for you know but it went on roof war as the other thing about dude with that though is your but that's what i'm saying that's all it is. That's a real bottom line oriented situation right but the other thing we do that thing rotated through time right by there would be ebbs and flows of what the roster look like ninety nine. That's your chefs. these best team. That is the elton brand core. Mcginnity william avery trajan langdon young. Shame batty a young. Chris carey will but that was right after duke guy. Sorry for a little bit and then next thing you know whoa joe was gone and it was just the black. Is duke team that you would ever see. I remember liking trades in langdon. Like i hated everybody had duke. Maybe it was just because it was like early stages of somebody who is just like a sharp shooter. But i remember like in alaska assassin and not really like it anybody else but i think also what added to. This was the type of black players that they had like what people thought of them. Because i grant hill was the guy and grant hill daddy. He ain't no softie like he's not the wind that he was outspoken football player. Yeah but he went yale. Yeah i know. I know but still i guess grant hill was like well. You gotta be that type of black person and maybe i was closer to the image of a black person. But that's not what. I wanted to be a fire that wanted to be jalen rose. I wanted to be a guy who's like tough and like wars black socks and baggy clothes. You didn't want to be the guy who showed up to school with a sport coat. Right poor grade. He'll he just picked razzano now and he cares that to lying. It's still not why. I'll be talking about me like that. Man i just. I just be out here. Who but i was dunkin that y'all do but that ninety nine teen you wouldn't say that about ill bred. You wouldn't say that about mcgee you and you say that about care. Well you might say about shame. Betteate there's a little bit of a different situation. But then after they got good with those guys it went back the other way and they were out there with gregg policies. Like reading. don't cowboys read. It was cold. Right as out there would degrade policies of the world in this looked around and was like okay now we gotta go back the other way right and then it went back the other way and then it got to like it wasn't like we just getting white. Dudes is like we getting coal white news. We go to the boston celtics strategy you. Why do you go get john havlicek right. That is a strategy. I don't know if it was conscious. If you establish yourself as the place where coal wind dues go like you and then putting together a pretty good roster if you can get seventy percent of them because you're not going to get twenty five percent of the coal black dudes and so once you bring a little too many black news that you can't get the call. Why do so. It is problematic and racist and stupid for nobody reasons but it ain't dumb strategy. Not we'll think about it this way so way back in the day when notre dame was like running a big part of why they could run. It was every good catholic player in america. They got right. This is where you were going to go. If you were a good especially from up north you a good catholic football player notre dame was going to get you. There was no other place that you would think about going. I always say you can truly tell the strength of programs braying by the quality of the white dudes that they get what you start going through like. The top twenty five on rivals lists in basketball from year to year either white dudes ago in somewhere local or they go into like carolina duke. Ucla like one of those big names like that is a reflection of the strength of your brand problem is like if you get yourself to enamored with that idea. You going to be out here with some bombs right. You're going to be out here. Great policy getting dunked on every week in all that this is why duke is a duke is polarized. Nobody's polarizing anymore like there's no personality left in college basketball it didn't feel like there's no true renegade program no more. There's no programs like arkansas michigan's was talking about i know michigan got pulled probation but they weren't really renegades they would definitely kicking a different. You know what i mean like. Nothing feels like that anymore with college. Basketball and coaches at this point. Don't feel that same way. Like a coach with the magnitude of mike chef. Ski like j. j. rey got three dollars down. I didn't even realize he had three jobs. Care yeah i don't understand it. Yeah i'm trying to figure out why because like you would think that the personality would stay with the coaches in college so these places should have personalities but maybe it's just with the general corporatization of all professional sports which college sports professional. Maybe it's just everyone kind of is corporate is and it's i are. We just gonna keep it this way but you would think there is a lane there nothing kentucky. They market themselves. I mean not as a renegade program but they market themselves differently. They do about the way it was to desert champs if jay wright three my apologies there kentucky was the first to be like what to the nba. Like we're we're not. We're not pretending like this is anything else. But what's happened with college basketball. Is you develop new effector. Nobody like i learned a lot about the way that people consume sports when i worked in north carolina right like i learned how people consume college. Football 'cause i was ruined for texas while we were not we designed air. But you know what i mean but i root for texas when it was at the best attacks ten years in a row. I'm mad with any laws a mad. We didn't ask jeb ship getting like all the stuff. That's where i was. Those was seven william programs and you learn how people find the joy in a seven week program. It's a lot about the development of players and like the attachment and affection that you get from seeing a guy as a freshman and then now they're twenty two on the way out here like wow that guys run up guys gotten a lot better and all that stuff and says don't really do that. It had happened. You know what i mean. It doesn't come through and now two guys leave. Willy nilly also feel like this is partially a media. Construct is championship obsession culture. Which like i know you play to win the game. Herm and i get it like. Everyone is striving to win a championship. But it feels like when you watch those games in the past. You could enjoy these other little minor victories or beaten arrival or or watching somebody get better or team improving and that was good enough but again with the corporatization of all of this and with the media attention on all of it. It's like you the winning championships or you are failure. No one else enjoys it and appreciates it and then sorry to ramble. But and then that seeps over into the level of entertainment we get from the product because like the stuff that you hate the insurance fraud that we see from basketball players or the flopping or the homogeneous playing styles like all that stuff is the result of championship culture. Wars like who cares entertainment. We care about efficiency. Who cares about any of this other stuff. We care about efficiency. Doubt is just the stuff supposed to be fun right so like especially to me with college when we talk about this because look it's three hundred seven schools. Playing basketball is one hundred. Twenty seven schools playing football. One of them is going to win one of right. It's like. I remember one of five by rain right like i remember When indiana changed their state high school basketball tournaments over like people who don't realize up until about fifteen years ago. There was one state tournament in indiana. Every high school in indiana was in the same tournament regardless of size. Yeah that's the charm of hoosier story. Is that it was a little bitty school that ultimately won the state championship. But everybody's goals were calibrated. According to what they were what kind of school they were so if a little school just got one win. It was like you know. Ncaa tournament fifteen beating the tube type of thing championship right. That's what it was. And so i remember when they changed it. I thought it was okay because in texas with the football for example you have six now. It goes on safe though. Nobody is what i'm saying in texas. Now now they go all the way up to six eight but they don't just go to six there's six division one six eight division two five eight division one five eight division two four eight division one four division two right. We just given everybody a state championship. And i'm like yeah. It's everybody gets a championship but that actually plays into what you're talking about right like this obsession at the only thing that matters is if you win ultimate prize. If somehow you don't win prize. You are somehow lesser because the phrase. I hate the most and it came of. Somebody's talking to me about russell westbrook the other day. They're like you know russell. Westbrook hasn't won anything every briefing but the championship. You've been in. The finals won the mvp. All these literally one everything but a championship in that is deemed. Has it worn anything and people that also stupid people throw that out. It's stupid and lazy. It is ridiculous and it is stupid but it is real because it does feel like. It's the way that most people experience russell is like. It's like critical of him and his style of play because it's not as efficient and because he hasn't won a championship and like it doesn't feel like i'm memory of russell. Westbrook is like he's all time greats. It feels like we're submitting a memory of him as a. He's a super flawed superstar. You can't build around. That feels like what we're gonna end up remembering about him right like give a damn. Dominique wilkins never won a championship. Hope began charles. Barkley like it would have been great for charles if charles would have won a championship. That did not stop him from being charles barkley. Now i do think that there's a generation that really doesn't understand this charles barkley thing and maybe they would have been able to say that he was a champion. But like a guy like hank aaron in baseball heck aaron won a championship in one thousand nine hundred fifty seven. When we talk about hank aaron. We never talk about that championship. It's not that big a deal in the greater discussion of him. Willie mays i forget. I mean wanted championship in new york. A championship. in san francisco don't obamacare barry. Bonds never won a championship play for another one dot donor body care like now if you never got to a point like and this is the argument against neat is if you've never played for that does put you in a different place than most of the all time greats. Our makes his point that just about every all time. Great at almost every position in every sport has at least played for it. You know what. I'm saying. Like i get it maybe on that front but there's so much other stuff that's going on. We'll be talking about. This is so many more like interesting players that i don't necessarily need to judge you just because the stars didn't align and your team did not happen to win. It's partially off all like i mentioned but it is also more so i think it's just the corporatization of all of this because it feels like rather than fans you guys shareholders and you're like a board meeting like man returns work good enough. Let's get more efficient and being a part of a board meeting in a fun. It is not a fun experience. Which is your point like. We're turning this all into work. Which is not great like we talked about last week. How sports is a unique entertainment property. And that you can pay your money and not end up seeing what you hope you getting there to see. I think that also applies to this because the motivation of every other entertainment property. The main motivation is entertaining you. That's not it sports like the entertainers in sports. Their main motivation is to win. Yes is it always is only entertaining entertaining. One hundred percent of the time to the fans of that team and the people that do what attain you judge for right so this is what i don't get is so i have players that i look at and i'm like okay you're never gonna win with right so gilbert arenas when he played was a great example of this right never go win. We'd go burris was so full it right. But he's the thing. I didn't rule for the wizards. I didn't room for the warriors. I don't give a damn if they win. Like when i hear some of the hostility would westbrook again. 'cause it always just so much comes back to westbrook. I love him and part of wild love him is. He took all of this in large part and was the bulletproof vests for kevin durant. When all these things were going on right. He's all got to be russified. News like fine. I'll beat at. I'm russell westbrook. I'll give by ninety up but if you know for the thunder and most seattle don't for ruperto thunder because most y'all ain't from no damn oklahoma. Why do you care. Why do you have any anger or hostility toward russell. Westbrook for taking those shots for a team that you don't route four and yeah. I could see how if i rooted for them. It would drive me crazy when he gets to ramped up into fourth quarter and keep shooting auto shots long in case. Stop himself from taking him. But i don't roofing. I'll take it a step further. Not why do you care. But why are you acting against your own self interests. Who does it like watching russell like everyone rather watch russell. West replay than twenty players. Who are better than him. Because he's fun explosive exciting unpredictable. Like all the things that you say. You want an entertainment. He is them. And somehow you like. Hey be more boring will hold up. And this is where. I give back onto luka thing like i'd been a luca holdout in terms of like how they the contribution to winning tight stuff right and i know that people like you the best player on marriage and they do that at all the time. The dodgers do take so many shots like the usage rate that he puts up in the like over thirty five. That is james harden with the rockets kind of territory. We raise questions all the time about whether or not you could win with james harden playing in the way the james harden play like. How long does it go if he plays like he does before people are like i know you start talking about him like russell westbrook. He shoots threes at a clip. That is about the russell westbrook type of clip. He's a different kind of enjoyable to watch but enjoyable nonetheless right. Free throws have been a travesty lately. By why do you one percent at one point which is crazy but anyway go ahead. Yeah all of that stuff. Goes down all that stuff. Plays out the enjoyment that you have a luca right now it should carry. Carmelo is another great example of this. Because i think carmelo's problem was carmelo got caught in a lag right as the game was changing and style of play for which he had been rewarded was now being viewed as being an like. Why did you these long twos. Because he makes some. It's not like he's bad at it her like. He's these shots that you don't want him to take but mellow mellow was so enjoyable. So i can say get. There are players who were better than melo. I do think that mellow was a bit overrated. But i didn't mean he went mellow that it means like watching mellow. Just hold at bali jazz steph. You as you try to figure out like what are you going to do. When is he gonna make who was excellent care. Mellow never wins a championship. I mean he spent every day of his life from the time he was probably like ten years old perfecting all the stuff that we thought you needed to perfect. Because that's what we saw aids in jordan. We saw him in that area working that we saw hakeem working at we saw all those people the best players working that whole area that he perfected and then he got the league. Like it wasn't still enjoyable to watch. You're right i. I thoroughly enjoy carmelo. And he's from baltimore's like that. There's that tight. But i always like mellow and tape for my necessarily some thousand because like chill out. He's great well. They also like metal pass ball mortar. Who who these people that use the one time. That mellow was on a complete team. They went to western conference. This there's something to enjoy about these things like that's actually one of the interesting things about like the people that really like watch high school football in that way again from texas. There's just people they really watch it. But there's a super cold. Do play high school football. We don't care about whether that tb. i hear winning. All kinds of do's out here super cold in high school eight win a damn thing and ain't nobody leg but you true. I remember like some of my games. Were packed out. We only made the playoffs one year. And there's no media to care about that but nobody was a better be more efficient. We gotta get together. The one dude that i feel like you brought this up before trae young. They're gonna turn on domestic point but he's shows the matterasian in this playoff process like controlling the game so much so that i think people appreciate him but so far i know daimler's game was great. Those twelve threes in clutch moments. But i gotta admit the image of the playoffs. That i've enjoyed the most was the knicks fans standing to give their team a standing ovation as they're about to get knocked out of play offs in trae pulling one from three bringing it on them and then going back and bowing to them fools. What is still standing up the hall or trey young or the knicks. but that's was cold. Y'all the thing for me is and i've said this i hate his game. I know but you love their moment. I love the fact. That i hate is game right like. That's what i'm saying like. i don't hate him. i don't have any personal animus against trae young but it's more fun having that right in his game. Pretty inefficient right. He can't guard anybody in the world but trae young madison square garden. Quieted here here. And embiid added a wide. You take the bow. I hear they have. They do a lot of shows here. And that's what you do. The show is over here. I don't care the ever anything and you know what this will make it more fun if he never wins anything right like this'll make it better but this is supposed to be fun. I saw some games on wednesday night. Where we saw we had a little push in his shoving with the nixon. The hawks your boy cleaver or have you say his name getting into it with. Moore's in a game against the clippers and the mavericks bring it back man by we have led. 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That's how you wind up being a starter for the eighty-six celtics cause somebody to read all about this. Is cole white boy. You might wanna check out. He was like having already back at google. Alerts all these seventy one a guy one for you. You know what i'm saying. But daddy aims. There's a legendary headline for the boston. Globe tree bites man in his danny ainge. Got into a retreat rylance. I believe in a playoff game. And they got into a tussle neighbor on the ground and people. Her daddy ain't screaming at the top of his lungs and it was because Tree rollins are trying to bite his finger off seven foot dollars. They call them tree. Put a reason you think seven foot tall tree rallies tried to buy his finger off and so i- google because i hadn't watched the video in quite a while and i completely missed how it went so aimed intrigue had been getting into jocelyn download. Whatever it will you know all this guy stuff and then at one point. They're running down the floor. And i think age is something small rallies but i'm not sure which tree rollins hit him with the forearm shiver to the dome and you know what dan did. Danny age looked at him. Squared up got low laura's shoulder when into his thighs brought him to the ground and then they scrapped it out right if i had to guess. Nobody got injected because they were the eject people stuff like that back in the day where it is bad. I would appreciate something like that in the people k fight no. Nba dudes are not allowed to fight. I assure you there is somebody in the nba that you don't want no problems with but they completely legislated this out of the gay 'cause y'all couldn't hanley y'all couldn't handle no ford first of all. There's not somebody nba bed. You don't want no problems with everybody in the nba. No problems with common viewer or like. Let's be clear about that again. And i'm beating terminent ground but at the same thing as the insurance company on paper company or whatever. They don't want to be associated with that a lot of times that is coded as black. They don't want to be associated with the black thing they don't want to be associated with the dangerous thing so in order to get more money in these doors we clean it all up. Make it all better. Yeah but people liked it more. That's the ironic thing about it. Is people liked him more. Like look let me take part of what maybe look at age but rollins was looking at them as as we discuss the composition of their roster. Edit cleveland who's not scared and all right and marcus morris. I'm looking at that. I'm like oh man. This is gonna be like back in the day baby. I mean not scared. That'll get you a lot of points. Me because i feel like in this series at the beginning of the series like i always appreciate luca luca guy but a beginning series when he was putting pack bath to sleep. Yes embarking on them. Although oh look you you might be on my team now. Those are the entertaining moments. That endear those people because maybe it's because identify with more mayors. Because i want to identify with either way. I love y'all luka not scared and i love it and that's the charm of and that's a big part about whitewater white dudes like him so much. Luca scared and i would like to know a little bit more about where exactly in slovenia luca is from because we have to remember something that like in this country because race in all of this stuff like we associate neighborhood which is black people right but if everybody in your country white that means it isn't white dude little hood and by the way these hoods coming out of the shadow of communism is hard dudes over there. That's the point is that we think because american culture so pervasive and we live over here. We think that the projects is as tough as it can get. No no no. No no no my friend. Bella abe led to eastern europe. There are places in this world that are tougher than marcy projects by a long shot in people who come out of there. Hey scanner you think about this right. My brother had a partner Audrey woolridge adriana play basketball at university of iowa in the nineties might have been a big ten play a year and he was from omaha omaha nebraska and always remember. Could my brother put me on email with dray a couple of other people and i hit my brother and i was like who the hell is cord at whatever. Donate dot com. Because that's what he called himself. The corn husks not the corn husker allied record. The call right right brother grew up in atlanta. I'm glad about overhaul and he was like i. Drop you off at omaha. You would make it home. 'cause there is somewhere in omaha are. This is absolutely the case. And all i'm saying is if it's that in brassica it was doing nebraska those of his life that into brassica it is certainly like that somewhere is slovenia. I can name all the times in my life. That i've seen a gun. I can also name all the time my life where i've heard gunshots. Somebody's they can name the days when they did not see or hear those things you know what i mean like and i'm not from the hood. I'm not claiming. Or whatever. But like and i suspect the same thing for people who are from tougher. Spas where like the most dangerous and scary thing they have is like man. Watch out because there's a bit of a drug feud in this neighborhood and that's terribly scared. Think about living in a country where you are growing up in a civil war not rival gangs the government versus people. Yes you think. They're going to be intimidated by you. We don't know anything about luca's backer. If you showed promise young and somebody's places which they'll take your body there 'cause like message from argentina but messy grew up in spain. You know they get you a quick but also we don't know like what the pickup basketball culture is in these places especially these places. Toughness is like a series variable mattis america now we are now a service based economy not a work with your hands economy and i think part of what happened to the corporatization is that toughness as a noble quality is something. That's kind of fading for men in american culture. We just don't look at it the same way. There's nobody in the nba that we look like. He's tough like that's the reason why we rock with him is because we stopped. That ain't what it is. But i assure you over there. Croatia one of the starts would s ending as one. It don't even matter you go run. Full court was dude. did you. don't know how rough and tumble yeah the things that we now as aichi consider hyper masculinity is like that is a way of life at somebody's plan where we like. It's okay to talk about mental. Health is okay to say you're feeling depressed that is weakness in some of these places so or even you could talk about it but even still buckle up boy while. I think there's room to empathize with people struggles while also being like all right to work. Everybody's me. I think i've come to this realization. Relatively recently where when issues of race come up a black achievement in america and it has sports a and so a lot of people are talking about it. And i find myself seeing that i understand the point that some people are making where that one focus more on black people trying to do things differently. But i also feel like it's more important to focus on addressing the larger systemic issues and the impact that the people in power have but it seems like there are two messages you know and both messages should be sent but only certain subsets should hear the message. The message to you know what i mean like. I understand that the message is it's okay to talk about your mental health issues. You should be comfortable being outspoken about that and seeking help but also buck because we not gone changes as as a parent. You think about that a lot whereas i would talk to. My kids like beside be embraced. That be honest with that but also it's a call world and sometimes go workout guide to fight through. Yeah i love you. They don't yeah it gets there but now i just like all these things the thinking so much how much better the nba would be the occasional elbow right the occasional hard foul the occasional confrontation and was wild about it. Is we show those clips of the old days like sports center or something like that at everybody loves them and they're the same thing happens right now people flip out like it's not even matter people don't realize what it was so wild it we don't go back and look at those old fights and be like we were living like savages. We like damn the good old day and then at the same exact thing happens right now now call them. Savages like you talking about the corporatization college basketball. Did i in harder. Because they put in a rule that is not discuss nearly enough. Which is if you get a technical foul in college. It is also a personal foul. They legislated player technical fouls completely out of the gate at that point. Right now great. I don't think players need to begin text and everything else but all these things that involve expression of self in college sports together. They got rid of mall. No touchdown celebrating. I don't think they even allowed spiked ball. You know saying like not touchdown. nothing everything else. Somehow they thought it was better to take the fun out. And as i have continued before they don't want to think about these black peop- the term evolution is always considered like a positive thing it's synonymous with progress but evolution just as that like things are changing right and so it feels like it's a societal evolution along with a sports evolution that are like happening in some of those things for the better by some of those. Things are a lot less entertaining. The one thing about basketball. That i think they have figured out and i guess football is like this too is in tight games. I've enjoyed watching the playoffs and part because the playoffs are chess and not checkers like the complexity of game. Game adjustments and play the play injustice. Don't happen in a regular season so like we complained about the humidity of nba basketball. I don't get that sense when i'm watching the games now because like the game still different teams feel different and it's fun to watch but the one thing that nba has that's always great. It's all that don't matter when you get down to the last possession possession you know when you get in a tight game you get the man who thinks he's the man the ball at the top of the key in everybody else standing and watching. Yup godot sit. That is great. And i thought dame so many times that part of the entertainment property is like at the end of every action movie. You always going to get the hero trying to overtake the villain. You never go get some random. Be character finishing off the end of it. That's the same thing in sports or in basketball at least well. Three games into a playoff series. Everybody know everybody sets. Yeah fooling nobody by the it somewhat similar in football football like single elimination are variables in all this stuff but your weaknesses in basketball become exposed in a completely different way guys who can shoot. Eighty two games cannot shoot anymore guys. Who seem like they could play halfway. Decent defense eighty. Two games cannot do it anymore. Fifteen footers become eighteen footers in the playoffs. And then what's it. Come down to my guy in your guy. Let's see let's see will be got and as much as people wanna talk about. You know the proliferation strategy. And that's cool like if you're a nerd in and i'm not saying nerd in this case in a bad way right if you're somebody that has an advanced knowledge of these things it is interesting to watch all the different things that change in everything else right but now man what it really comes down to it. None of us got into this. The think none of us fell in love with this because it was so smart. I'll listen to like history podcasts. Or i'll read a book that is like byzantine his explanation of something complicated. And i will enjoy that process but i don't call it fun you know. Don't know what the word is for. It is like i enjoy learning. Sometimes i'll watch a world war two docks with my son who's really into that stuff and buy. This is fun. this is cool. This is interesting but it ain't fun like we plan x. Box right. I wouldn't pay to go watch it. You know like those guys. they like. Maybe i'll pay to get into a museum but i ain't paying to get into a lecture. Be colts we love goats stuff right. I go by ticket to go here. How pay for the book might might go pay to watch the movie battle that you mean that. Necessarily i think you would absolutely pay to go. Listen to somebody. Talk when i wouldn't do it on a friday. I've saying this if you tell me. Oh friday night. I could pay fifty to go see coats. I pay fifty to go see. Addison park i am paying fitted nosy. Andy that's all. I'm say i understand. I agree but i. I mean i guess i'm defending myself. Because i have paid what we had to pay. But i think i bought something to pay fundraiser money to go see coats. Talk at a church in dc and twenty look different to go see talk and neither of those experienced what i say. We're fun but they were enriching. Guess but you but yeah we talk about some different. Yeah indiana on friday as my point exactly. Both of them. I wednesday. Yeah all these things are supposed to be fun. We talk about your chefs. The as much as i didn't like duke. Duke made it more fun right there. Presence made it more fun and we have so few people so few things now that just make it more fun thing about the nets they know we gotta raptors so like the nets. It's so wild that they're so good and it's no fun. They don't even look like they're having fun they don't give you maybe just because it's too easy right. They don't even give themselves enthusiastic high fives. There's no one on that team. Even joe harris. He don't even really count as a fan favorite. You know what. I'm saying like they don't even have a fan favorite. We gotta bring the fun back. But i think it's the hyper focus on championships. They like none of this matters. None of this matters whether season was a success whether we can be happy or whether we fail. All that matters is how we doing a championship. But i do think that the great thing about villains in sports or teams that are considered villainous. Is it makes everybody care because right now. You only care about your team if you're locked in your players but if there is a team that it's okay to hate then you care about all of their games to which makes it really makes sports at its highest. I've never enjoyed watching sports. Nearly as much as i did when i was a kid because that was before it became worked for me and that was when i cared like i really really cared. Like to the point where. I'll be sad for two days if my team lost and watching those games i guess what. Gamblers part of the thrill of gambling. You have bought into this experience. And i haven't felt that for sports in a long time the closest i got to that heat year and i wasn't about my team. That was just ball. Hey y'all for them. Yes yes yes. I was all it all that was all it all now. Destroy everybody that dallas final crush me honestly man. Another fun to meet is on a year to year basis than living in dera carolina. Duke days because about it was. Like if you re from durham. You need to understand. Durham don't rock with like that. Neither has changed up a little big. You know people from durham has something to put all four. But durham barack woodham either but it was just me and my do thing every day right like i'm marie this sheridan where right now. Bob's cuisine on ninth street will put it up there for those. Y'all watch the video. My people over there we go there for lunch like every like the plan was always the same it was just always in the air because it was fun and even if it was because those teams were generally good even with one of a was. It didn't matter it was fun. We are here for fun. And we have fun of where friday's right here. Dominic foxworth check him out at undefeated. Check him out. Ohio questionable on get up. Be all over the place ladies. Gentlemen thanks so much for joining us here on right up. We just think three times a week. Gay best saying tony. Coletta one more day and things behind the scenes. Thank you gentlemen. Remember bottle the right. 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What It Takes For A Company To Become SaaS Industry Leader

Tales From The PROS

52:18 min | 2 months ago

What It Takes For A Company To Become SaaS Industry Leader

"This tales from the pros were business leaders and influencers share their stories of inspiration. Struggles and successes. And i'm your host michael jordan. Hey everyone welcome to tales from the pros. And this is michael. Giorgio your host and co founder at ovation. My wonderful guest with here. Today is a veteran leader in sales and revenue growth and has been named ceo of up time. Dotcom a leader website monitoring software. He brings more than two decades of sales and revenue leadership experience to up time and he's been driving growth for numerous public and private software as a service companies. Such as such as charge defy rack space cloud and inspired learning. Please welcome mike welch mike. I appreciate you man. Thanks for being here michael. Everybody exciting. I really really appreciate it and you know as we talked before i've i've heard of time Before even before we kind of initially can our teams connected. And i think i've seen maybe some ads or sought somewhere maybe lincoln but I think i think many people can find interest in what you're doing in the value that you're providing to the community and just to different audiences so excited to get into it so before we kind of get into you know Just your experience and what you're doing now up time. Let's talk a little bit about your story right so you know. Tell us from the pros. Business storytelling podcast. And i want people to understand. Get some background of of how you got to where you are today. I know you were named Recently named seven months ago As the ceo of apptime dot com and. Now you guys are really growing in bribing so Tell us kind of how you how you got here. You know and you don't have to start when you were born. You don't have to go back. Yeah they'll all all. I'll skip a lot and save. Save all your yours. Since we're boring moments. But i i think i. I followed a relatively traditional progression from like sales guy To sales manager sales leader vp sales cro and then finally ceo but that sounds a lot more contrived and obvious than it is. I think for me i i. I'm keen i'm I talk a lot right. I try to limit it as i get older. I talk less and try to make my my words more meaningful But i'm also a verbal thinker so out loud generally speaking. i'm. I'm obvious in humble and transparent about who i am but it wasn't always that way certainly is young kind of seller and aggressive and working more hours. Everybody else or trying to be smarter than everybody else. Or whatever advantage. I could get to sell more these super competitive and all those things kind of had to get shown that that's not really healthy. It's not beneficial. Ultimately is not a successful path take in terms of sales and so as i learned through my progression got better and better at being transparent in humble and and genuine caring or allowing myself to carry think always care but i i just kind of shelby. I thought that was what i was supposed to do. You know sales managers to be hard sales. Vp's even harder directors. Gotta be this whereas all of these kind of Expectations from media movies. And what you see and just had to jettison all and probably took me about ten or fifteen years to indicate much more comfortable with how you sell a collaborative Excuse me he lied and those types of things. So i could talk about my career in starting you know with a very young racks base zone and the cloud stuff in the mike progression in technology answer will probably poke in and out of that but the truth is has been a growth curve. Vince spectrum on me becoming self aware And understanding yeah yeah understanding what. I really want Understanding what i really need And making the connection to others what they really want what. They really need just bridging. I think that works whether you're in sales or Kind of ultimate leadership as a ceo ultimately ship. I got a boss. So it's is the connectivity for maytham. I kind of got back to. And that's why i'm here. I'm here anyway. Yeah not i completely understand and you know. I think some people at least ones that i've spoken to. They underestimate what it really takes to be a ceo You know i think. Ceo's and an entrepreneurs they're used interchangeably a lotta times. I i hear about it but not a lot of entrepreneurs make good. Ceo's you know So you know. Being a ceo is You know i. I just know this from experience. You know being a co founder of my company as well and Just the amount out of pressure That you do have to to make sure you're performing that your teams performing to make sure that you're you're paying the bill you're paying the bills are making payroll that you know you're You know maintaining and growing like a a bottom line having profit and just the whole financial picture and the you know the financial aspect operational aspect of it that you have to pay attention to just a lot of moving pieces parts and that's the thing is like so for you just over time you feel like you know going through rack space and all these other companies. They were just really all stepping stones to lead you to where you are today right and how did you. How did you get named as seal. How did it happen. How was it. What was that That story i'll all. I'll walked back to the beginning question in the end but yeah. Ceo is the most terrifying. All i ever had because there isn't any all right. You're just decide. You know what. I mean you have to make decisions and it's it's It's lonely is your own island like every decision you make is impactful and there are i mean people's livelihoods are on the line their lives aren't the livelihoods are which is probably number two in terms of everybody's kind of ladder of importance right so i think it's a hard job it it it really is. It's not so much About the thinking and everything else since just you have to start and finish right and if you do it well if i do well get everybody involved. Everybody understands that there's no magic wand in that from my perspective is got to be collaborative and we all work on this together. There's no bullshit it is. I am not some type of magic one guy. Where i can say. Well this is the right way and this is the right way and this is the right way. It's helped me understand what the right way is going be in doing that with no ego and just straight humidity's is hard really really hard not to just. Sometimes i forget you're doing this. Oftentimes the wrong thing. But then sometimes is vitally necessary so anyway so that's my view on the role as ceo I never really wanted or needed to be. Ceo it just progressed way. Naturally i think i don't know which came first the capability to be. Ceo or the opportunity. But imagine the guy here pretty much at the same time anyway. So back to how i got here and now i got ceo. I have a long history and and pretty extensive network that goes deep for a few decades. And that's just in the it staffing. Before i still got some vestiges that it's pretty much. The technology side and i do some mentoring with founder and ceo types. That are trying to figure out. How do i do sales one. Should i do sales higher sales. Vp to higher sales rep shiraz. St are actually like keep smelling like trying to kind of walk through different cell structures and models. And i'm pretty good at conceptualizing. What one of my few strong. And so that's the kind of trail that are tale that i've been kind of trailing behind me for awhile fast forward a little bit a run into the managing director of the vc firm that up time and many many other companies ranging from like one hundred right so Or he gets me on. The phone basically escalated because one of my sellers was a jerk. You know high pressure type of thing in on this phone new york guy than accent needs kind of into me and i mean enemy me like poking at me like you know kind of operation or whatever and and we just got to where where you're connecting in communicating and and got him and he got me and there is a synergy there. This was four years ago. i think This is a pretty singular guy and kept in touch all this time. I solve this problem immediate problem and he just never went away and then last year when we were had gone into inspire learning to help them kind of fixing control. Sales is a little bit of a while west. Begin all those things right. In order to sell we've been through kind of semaj -ment presentations like thirty or forty of and and then sold the company to j two global solve this time in talking down And kinda giving towards the in there. What are you gonna do after class. I don't know. I might take a break again. Semi retire serve Until the next thing hits me in the face and the g to come in and do this no we're ready one hundred percent year over year growth. We don't have any sales. We don't have any marketing. Don't get me wrong. We have all those things. They're not formalized their not commercialized. They're not structured and monitored miserable. All of those things is an entrepreneur. You understand that right. I do too. You understand the need of getting these things in place in anyway so long story short. I exited the company december. And start here. Jan one didn't take a day off just started neely and there were rolling awesome required restructuring. Things organizing it. You know an increasing accountability and kind of just delegating everything. Accordingly in. it's a very very important. I know just from my experience. Talking to numerous entrepreneurs nco's that are thriving if it really is important the way you structure the company You know it's not just about having these ideas in just about execution it's about the the efficiency in the organization or you know what i mean making sure that people are planning their rules. That you're delegating the right roles to the right people gave me the framing of a thing. I get excited talking with this because this can sales process and then how you communicate move like the how you frame something and how people view something and how. It gets framed whether it's a sales interaction or the very existence of a certain type of pinal or i. This is my focus in once you start putting definition around the thing then it grows ecosystem of of good and bad and everything else but until you do it's just this is kinda fountain of chaos and soon as you start putting some controls in place then it starts developing a momentum that turns into like okay. Yeah we just started looking at this and all of a sudden we're all looking at this and and things start moving in the right direction that the the framing of thing is is. I've told the story many times. But as a seller i- sales reps often get into problems where they're super nice indus- friends and everything else through a whole. You know five minutes or five month long process and then they try to close them heart. Close zoom eventually because their boss makes them or whatever. The battle nair isn't because you're now holding them accountable because you never have them. Accountable force much like raising a child. If they're credible from step one in their expectations you're gonna hold them accountable all the way through. There's no problem demanding. Hey we committed that we were gonna execute today. I've got half a dozen people here. Okay my condo. i'll now i got the expectations. There's stop pulling them out of the fantasy of the conversation. You're having and shit fantasy literally. Not you're spinning an untruth but you are crafting a relationship. You and i in an expectation and everything else in a second. I violate that everything is can off in people after examiner. It's hard to recover from. Yeah you're so so right so true what you said you know it's It it's from the start. And i think that's where a lot of leaders make that mistake where they don't set the expectations from the beginning. They don't have that solidified. That solid foundations like building a home. You don't have foundation If you don't have that solid foundation you continue to build. On top of it is just gonna crumble. So you have to have that same mentality with with people You know making sure. They understand their expectations. You're aligned with what they're going to be doing for you for the company And and that you are aligned culturally and with the vision and all. that's very important. You know is is really creating that foundation having those expectations from the beginning so true. And i mean we've all made made those mistakes. Sometimes we end. that's good. That goes the same thing with With customers to sitting those expectations having that foundation from the gecko from the beginning. And it's going to really set the set the whole journey for you know. Just just making it. All seamless air buying me to say known or a customer. I it just. It's such a thing But i just learned over time now. He can't do that and just dive into it instead of frying because they nothing only relationship faster than starting something with good intentions and ending a terrible place. Where you know. There's a much deeper more negative impact than everybody just walked away from the beginning. Not says is true. You know in talking about up time mike. i just from the research. I've done about about you guys in the company and for you guys being one of the leaders in your market and your industry there's a lot of other companies that are trying to get there and i know we're all growing role all of us are trying to progress. It's all about progression always trying to improve in baby steps so he's trying to improve a little bit at a time At least i should be the goal but for you up time and you scaling growing the company in general what is it really. Take your experience to grow and scale company like up time. What are what is it really taken. I know you mentioned a few things obviously with people and allocating the roles to the right people. Obviously that's a part of it but you know specifically for a sas business because it is different than like a beatty service. Yeah the foundations of business the same but there's just there are differences. Of course you know so if you can talk about those a little bit i look. I think it's it's hard to define and everybody's got their own of course to to solve. Get rid of payoff. Whatever i the more people in this space the better first of all i desire you mentioned at the outset you know people who just don't even have experience with like for what people in the tax base would be like a yeah of course of course but i've literally dealt with the prospect who is now a customer here. I'm just a few months ago. Who owns all of us in a way. That doesn't get me in trouble. They're holding company and they have multiple name brands. Conservative can have been around for eight years types of things that that now all have web properties associated with them the no monitoring them like they just like. How do you find out. something's down. well somebody notices it tells us that type of of setup is there an in. There has to be similarities. There has to be Some pressure on companies like time or others in the space to to grow to improve. There's also benefit to seeing what somebody else is doing. That's that's innovative and interesting. And in. Cool or yeah. We thought about doing that. We've decided not to go. They go fill. That nation will keep working on ours. I think we're that time specifically were. I am super lucky. And there's been a much unicorns that work at this company man. I mean a bunch of russell. Lar- really people that that operate. I mean look. We'd been around without a ceo for six years that i'm not here because oh my goodness we can't manage this. I'm here because like somebody's gotta be dealing with all these types of of ceo Kinda decisions like branding or you know what product direction oregon ago to dig terms. Do we make all those types of things at some point. You just need to sire but these these unicorns are just been killing it. And they've been operating from technical purist point of view. The mix is this entire Kinda feature in product. I just super elegant like very pristine and fresh in uncluttered my veins you'll notice if if if somebody goes this deep looked around the space is there's lots of companies that do everything for everybody and lots of noise and clatter you can't figure out what pieces of a thing our thing. Some of these are our giant companies. That are way bigger than we are. So i'm not denigrating them at all and i imagined at scale at that size You sir developing a pretty long tail products but the nice thing about us just a very very deep on. I got much smaller. More narrow kind of subset of of core functionality. To where it's i get in fights with our architect all the time because now putting that in the you i. It's like really shouldn't be saying that your loved the fact that they're saying that the ceo and like you have this whole dynamic because they're they're doing way more than i ever. Well so. I think what really floats my boat about the opportunity here is they've done such a great job. Having really elegant really usable technology with the core kind of functionality people need there's we give most common request is we want to change the sensitivity to paying our website. Yeah milliseconds are every second every ten seconds or every x amount of time. And we won't do it. We can but we know that they'll get false positives and it won't be the right experience for whatever they're trying to do trying to use it incorrectly and we're not gonna area the product but you can look across the landscape and see a bunch of our competitors who absolutely do like that and then those those prospects come back to us because they're like i can't keep getting all these false positives. I can't keep getting alerts when we're not in the way you guys are recommending stuff gets set up is the right way but like that type of Thinking on how we set up everything about up time is pervasive on her company from from support. All the way to You know just sad man who's who's working on sock and things like that like everybody's just so thorough so smart really blessed beer. Yeah no. that's that's awesome. Yeah it seems like you. Guys have really niche out. You're in a in a particular space and it also seems like you have those unicorn employees but they're also very passionate they care about the product they care about the value that they're providing to the customer. That's so important. You know you hear this. All the time with just employs being at different companies in. They're not they're just not all their emotionally. They don't they don't like they don't believe in their marketing or selling or with their building. And i think that does hurt The company on a branding perspective. It hurts the culture many different levels. And that's that's very important to make sure that not just sas companies but all companies have people that really really truly do care you know so. Make sure you hire slowly hire good people. That's the key right. I you know. I hate the ceo. Speeco horrible keeps me up at night is but that does concern me because scale at it has to break down. You just heroes. Some sense of connection inserts. My sister's got a phd in psychology and sociology. She super smart noisy. She probably tell me exactly what the number is where tribes breakdown in search splinter. Where you lose some. I don't know where exactly it is by. No it's going to happen. Some just wanna keep it out as far as i possibly can cause insurers nice to be with really motivated really smart people. Yeah and you know and talking more about just ask companies in general and obviously with your immense experience when a a start up when they're in a safe startup when they're trying to figure out their monetization plan and all that right and i know there's so many different plans that you can. There's so many different strategies that you can go about like premium or paid subscription or a micro transactions. So many different things that you can do but in your experience. Do you think a lot of these sas. Startups are making mistakes. With the way they're monitoring their products. You think some of them are just monetize too early. They should probably build a free community based first and then monetize that or what's what's kind of some of the The problems and challenges. Not what just monitor the monetization but even other aspects of sas companies like where some of the problems that they that you've seen them face and just how they overcome them. You don't. I think i would never call myself an expert on this but i have this debate. Freely regularly in terms of like is first of all everybody wants to go up to enterprise everyone wants to go upstream data fronts all the time asser or whatever the basis is and then everybody wants a flywheel. Everybody wants so. Everybody wants to have the free accounts where you look all the the the people that were jury some of those are going to grow right right right by the end of the day. Everybody wants everything and recently bias is really real and it's really dangerous In terms of what you know what you don't know so the way. I manage it and think about it and has tried to keep aligned with is to try to stay with him late. I there are things that are are kind of integral part of every company is out there whether it's day old or Know one hundred years old. You got to be realistic about what you do. I mean you gotta designed to the customers that your product really resonates with and developing a flywheel for a innertubes. Are you going to get a flywheel out of that really and when that will grow and when will like he's having a realistic can have mentality on on what you will build a for instance race in going open cloud and an open source in doing these things like. We made an active decision leadership. They're like we can't compete with. Aws we don't have the money they at first day. We want to read about them. And then like all the sudden they just annihilated everybody in the cloud space. It says it happened. We were based cloud. We thought we'd get this stuff sorted in. It was us and we were very much like not there. But you know some of the cool things that we did was like Open cloud open source will out of the people to come in here and have publicized. The cloud and people could build their own clouds and did some really amazing stuff. Not least of which was allowed us to try to keep pace developmentally but they. Ws maybe we had forty fifty sixty developers. I think amazon probably had at least tax that. And there's no way right. So i like that. That's developing like maybe nuts official sensible five. But that's like there's something there there's there there you have a product that's in line with that you can develop at the developing flywheel win. There is a one is on. Why would you so. I don't i like the concept of of of a flywheel in developing community. I think it's intellectually. It appeals to me. I see lots of value in it. but there is absolutely no doubt that the premium and very inexpensive kind of baseline users create a lot of work right away but they eventually do and and develop some some tankers in terms of your product because some of those folks are some of the most judgmental quick with their Kind of judgement of you is as a competitor provider bender or whatever and sometimes it's so hall so it's just be careful what you ask for. I'm i'm personally like i got a base it on bit. I don't think apptime is is great in in that space. I think we're too deep. I think it's the function is in our you. I control panel is not going to be used by somebody who wants to sit up down test on their basic internal site. You know what. I mean like dan how my ever gonna compete with free council because i my marketings not developed towards it is not like the whole hospice in consumption is not built that way. Millions of dollars invested into these products going as deep. I had dogs very cute dog lover. Don't worry okay yeah thanks anyway. Probably from yourself talk in any case so it's like product it doesn't make sense it could in may may maybe dummy looking at it wrong By the stuff we have in the capability neuro We're going to be meaningful for someone who just wants to drive to the to grocery store and back. Did you have did you before you were. Ceo was the the pricing model different at up. Time than it is now where you are. You're leading the company. Has it kind of changed. Is the audience the same to the customer as soon as funny you ask that that it's some in progress stuff right now. Okay but but look. I'll all frame it this way. Like we have the largest companies on the planet that our customer cars and and a lot of them don't consume it consume up time in that traditional come sas can model so they're they have pushed us in a lotta ways technology wise Feature wise outlook wise like. They've really helped us. we have really nice partnerships various. They're aware of our size and contribution they're making and just somehow. It's we're a good fit for that type of collaboration Pushed just on on creating new pricing paradyne's and like you know. I don't want to buy an assassin. We're enterprise were yeah. Five largest companies on the planet. We're we're not buying sas like we're not gonna buy from here's ourselves we can build our. Here's our paper goes on yet. You have those types of things and it's yeah okay great so i will change and will accommodate different pricing over time. I don't think they will go away from sas but i i do think That will have more customizable. Sas kind of hybrid solution in the trick is okay. We just don't want to go to just two straight skew like a guess what now on sudden we're acting like were i don't know. Abc gigantic company. We don't want to do that. 'cause then that gets away from who we are but i think what we can do is say. Hey if you wanna buy percent package and not worry about how. You're going to configure all this great. It's want to configure. Then come follow this channel and you can both walk down a the tunnels that you choose and then it becomes a like. How do you want to consume us rather than your small somehow not valuable your small medium or medium or your large. 'cause i think the new age of of technology in sas is not going to be less valuable middle value really valuable. It's going to be. How do you need to consume us. And then how can we provide that consumption to you in a model that scales like the scale on either side. So i'm not ever going to come up with the answers to those things. And hopefully i can start getting a little close to. Yeah but at least you know. At least like i mean. It seems like you're listening to your customers. And and they're they're pretty much a part of the changes that you're making to anything the company you're listening to your customers. You're getting feedback on pricing. Where the way you're building and implementing improving optimizing the system And that's important. You have to be a customer focus and customer centric and and you'd be surprised. A lot of people a lot of companies. don't do that they. They're kind of a stick to what they believe is is right for their company instead of the other way around there listening to their listening external into their customers. Saint guys like this. What your platform needs. I mean yeah if one or two say okay i mean maybe they get you know more people saying it just kind of validated but An essence you know it's. It's good that you're listening to your customers in. I mean that's going to help you grow and all this stuff. So neil the jet. I mean it's gay. Of course the customers are. I mean kesslers. Opinions is job one in all of those things But also the number of people. I've talked to in the past two months. Lauren tire platform over the weekend. is is more than you learn. Okay it's sometimes. They don't know what they think they know. And like that balancing and being strong and calm and reasonable about places that you won't or can't them While at the same time having a culture of please tell us how to improve. What else can we do right. There's a real schizophrenia. That happens there. But i think that if i'm really calling out one thing aside from the technology up time that is amazing is the culture of that. It's like i walk into. I wish i could take credit for it. But there's like you know. Some of our customers. Straight to george chief architects and manzi ios and cpo's and there's a real and they know when not to abuse it and don't generally Sometimes they're like. Hey this is an architect problem escalated. Thanks for your health. But let's get. Let's get one of these other guys on. I mean it's just it's just real to bury and you know just talking about up time itself like the value that you guys are are giving to your customers would when it comes to monitoring the website and the problems that you encounter. I'm sure i can't even imagine you. Know the the amount of sites that go down and companies probably don't even realize it Or they don't get any notifications. Nothing you know. it's it's probably crazy but just what are things that you are noticing mike or what you've noticed with just the problems that a lot of websites do have do have on a performance perspective Do is it is it. I mean any statistics. Any data What kind of data did you find lately. That's been kind of a. You can just be surprising or oil. it's it's i. I don't know i probably got some some salty. Folks that are like you have known that for fifteen years. Thanks pal but the. I think one thing that that your your subscribers or the folks listening to my interested in is like we talked about the free meal model we talked about like the flywheel and there are some very good companies out there who are very good at basic chicks up and down. Get it for free. If you want to do anything advance from that then you have to pay right and some of them are still there making. It can make it on on the like the deep end of that right. So it's there's there's some of that stuff out there but the a lot of people start monitoring by saying as my signed up or as my side now and it's just there's some super basic stuff there is there it is my certificate expiring. I it's it's up and down there. There's five ten basic checks in there. Some companies will charge you for everyone of those individually some charge you for one fee for all of them. Don't charge you and you can use a couple. That's a third of the kind of stool in terms of monitoring. So yeah is is. My sight is my page is my. This is my bat. Is it up. that's great. What about the elements that are inside. A page is your buy now button working. Is you're logging now. Button working deeper. Like i mean performance. Like how is it actually. How is your page actually. Absolutely like yeah great up. It hasn't been down for a half years but nobody can buy anything. Diana no no no. Yeah in the by stuff is is is is meaningful. It's obviously the most important piece of it but it's not that important if somebody never even gets to it and if someone's like add this to my car but it doesn't add something to your car or it adds the wrong thing worried. You know what i mean so you got all these different elements and you know. Cpa's are or call them buttons. I'm not sure exactly. Who else all the contact us the inquiries. yep everything. yeah so you go click on a site for a thing and you want to know that that's out and that's the synthetic and just the basic can transactional like this transaction working. Yes it is that still another still got a an additional apiece and this is where you can get really deep and it gets really hard is the release monitoring or rum which is where is this person going. And what's the progression through this page like. Okay yeah i see them. Why transaction checks working in my up downs working at grace. But they're dining out like or their their lack getting to acts or i they're low time for for these elements that have to wait for and so then all of a sudden the user experience becomes the third piece. I mean now you have a holistic picture right of everything that's happening here and if it seems like overkill trust me your competitors are doing it and not only doing. But they're getting pretty damn exotica by their stuff that i will narrow the we can do. It gets so deep that it's silly but they're doing it and then they they're dissecting and pulling apart all of the css code to find out where the errors are or more there are looking at companies like up time some of the other good deep ones out there to help them kind of decompose. What the problem was in induce some some real postmortem on errors or dissection from figuring out isis. Breaking like is much much. There's a much deeper. Collaboration coming on the next five years from companies like us than it has been around for the last five. That's exciting you know. And i i i completely resonate with. You're saying especially what we've dealt with that our company on just a website perspective and just the all the apps and things like that you know. There's you know when it comes with a website right. You're gonna have integrations like puff spot right. And we have a co-sponsor creations. Sometimes you don't know if that's working some one time week. We caught an issue. We tested everything. We thought it was working. One of our workflows that you. What one of the workflow integrations between our side and help spot and One of the triggers was not working which was stopping them from receiving one notification. And that hurt ourselves. You know what i mean. So understanding the whole performance much deeper. Forget upper down. I mean yeah. That's very very basic but in terms of like the in terms of the user experience perspective You know how they're engaging on a page you know an end where they're clicking that heat map type of orientation that's where it gets very powerful. I think a lot of companies really need to tune in and understand that and When it when when it when they're ready when they're at that at that time point in time when they really need it you know. I'm sure some websites don't need heavy Performance checking in a lot of them. Do but s- crazy we have. I spoke with the customer a few weeks ago. And they always have optima like they they they never ever ever don't have a time up. I can throw in a whole bunch of negative one statement but they even use us in lieu of like google analytics because they don't always have it up but they can go into real user monitoring they can see what i mean the that type of blending is is just coming fast and furious is not going anywhere the predictive analytics being able to tell you what might break looking like. Hey this is something we've seen before with this Or with something similar. And you should check this scotty. Yellow in terms of predictive healthier like things like is there were furiously researching and working on back on right now If companies are working in these areas than there are already offering stuff from these areas they're not going to compete so it's it's the deeper and deeper and deeper always and where do do you think. Where do you think the future's going when it comes to just overall performance even You know as as deep as you wanna get about user experience performance on it could be on a design or it could be on technical back in perspective. Where do you think it's kind of headed just with all the technologies coming out and all this you know and just Lots of changes. I think even just the way users and customers are behaving and performing online the decisions that they're making the way they're interacting with different platforms like a lot of changes you know. Yeah i always knew the answers to those i mean. The truth is don't feel woefully under qualified to offer an opinion there. But i i know that that being able to collaborate with companies like yours or others where it's like we can't figure out what's wrong or getting this from you guys. But we don't see this on this like a being of the collaborate so human touch i don't think goes away and in fact i think invested in correctly. Certainly up by josie all the time as powerful. Yeah it's very powerful become plex. It's just too complex. And i i would love to be able to service it by and everything else but maybe twenty years from now. Like a real. Maybe it's even real now. I don't i don't know by. I know people talk about machine learning and and ait the marketing speak or not just asleep and hope. Nobody asks them for an opinion. Yeah i know that it's real. I know that there are there fast and believe me. I've talked to some of our senior deb's about how do we a and everybody's got opinions on it right. But i think aside from the predictive pieces in being very smart in conservative about what you're going to predict it's not there yet. It's it's certainly not what we're doing and it's just there's no machine that can look at something and just intuit iraq. Yeah listen. I always have problems with this like this. The transaction recorded. That's working with this browser. Because of experienced eye problem the s i. it's a whole slew of things that i can't do won't be able to do for the foreseeable future that a human can do. Yeah i mean. Hey i can be powerful for sure in different aspects but The the human touch that human element with technology combining it. I think is is very powerful. Because know i'm sure with you. You're you're a team. That's reviewing and monitoring different web sites They're able to catch things on like we talked about user experience by how they're going how they're how they're how users actually going through the each page where they drop off. What's the bounce rate. No where they balancing. How are they balancing You know what i mean. It's it's good. It's good for companies to understand the the user behavior on their applications on their on their websites. A i think that is very very powerful. I know from experience. We analyze the tools that we use and and understanding. User behaviors is incredibly powerful. Because it just gives you more data and you can adapt your your. Your marketing and sales strategies is not linear. It's it's not. It's not predictable. Why are we have missed it all this this like why. Why are people. I grant looking at it. Because they don't like it but it's true where machine would make johnson people can't we have customers that have success hundred site reliability engineers that have johnson usership with us like they're all managing different things. Globally all have different requirements. But there's a consistency from talking. No person because we know who is like is that it company that a machine trying to diagnose and assaulted just turns into a frustrating experience for at least so far. Yeah i can definitely see that. And that's if if if there was a that's if if it's even accurate you know what i mean. Is it accurate. What it's telling you. And i'm not saying that humans are always accurate. But it's is it you know they pick companies will invest all this all this time money and resources into a machine learning in a even in some ways. It's very very very powerful of you. Systems. that has it a it is powerful. But it just depends i. i think With with your your area you need that human element i think. That's a vital component. Yeah hey look until they can successfully build a a a kind of call computer system that allow me to talk to my insurance agent or give me the information. I need effort into rex. Thou- talking to an agent like that's going to be my barometer. I mean it's addressed of his to conflicts. So i think you know. I think the audience could definitely take away from this. Mike is that i. I've dealt with people that think on both sides of the spectrum just human human no tech and i'm sure that would people not not very innovative and then you get ones on the other side that are it's just tek. It's it's kind of like just automation. I and You know and and funnels and tools and all this stuff and software. That's great but i think it's that balance having both of them. You know in both both this. This thing that we have up here is is powerful running. Lay amazing you're so right. I love it. You're so right But yeah so Lasting for you. Mike and i ask everyone this every enter on every interview when it comes to yeah when it comes to storytelling right and and just you telling us your story even your you know your expertise in all the knowledge that you have sharing that with us. How would you define your story in one word and it could be life career anything. But how would you just define mike. Mike story in one word hyphen. That's that's called self awareness. I mother when my favorites. I can't expand but i think that's the best one that i could come up with fast. That's great i appreciate it. this has been. This has been wonderful mike. I very very thankful for having you here and I think you shared import. A lot of knowledge in a lot of people can learn from this and whether they're tech or not doesn't matter. I think there's a lot of value here. I really appreciate your time and everything that you've that you've shared with us today. So thank you so much. So tell us. Where can everyone find you and tell you know. Tell the up time site all that good stuff. Yeah we're up. Time dot com. It's pretty pretty memorable. Up dot com. You don't go to any other up time that's out there just dumped on dot com. You'll find you'll see you'll see the real deal on mike welch. Ceo you can reach out to me directly if you want. You can figure out my email address. Otherwise if you're interested in monitoring your talk some on your some feedback. I'm i'd love to hear it or even if you want to check like i mentioned at the outset always interested in investing in taking care of of my network. So don't be strangers. It's great thank you so much mike. I really appreciate it again. I said i'm very very grateful. Essay that many times because it really. I've tried to have a lot of gratitude. So thank you so much for for being on the show man. And i appreciate you. This is my pleasure. It's been an honor. Thank you absolutely. thank you. Everyone for listening watching. And this is your host. Michael giorgio from tales from the pros and until next time. Thanks guys please. Subscribe to our youtube page and also follow social media. They're link somewhere around here but we really appreciate it guys. Thanks for all the support. And i'm going to be you also content continuously and we look forward to seeing you say.

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Outtake: Life in London vs Dublin During the Coronavirus

The No Budget Filmcast

05:05 min | 1 year ago

Outtake: Life in London vs Dublin During the Coronavirus

"Yea like she's crossing like the doctor on sheds corner. Virus don't much on caster presumed cheese. She's so she's GonNa be more exposed to. Yeah I think I think he was in studio last week. They start broadcast from home so do Hundred Day. Walking Challenge David. That's why she picked it up or something even day like they were shown like people go down to London. Lock in their droves. It's shock scary. Like is based on Highway Today. The just today but it's very Newham oil might. There can't hear him but I can't see I can see me. She's in London. You're desperate over there. Yeah well because they're doing such terrible job but we're fine. We're in three apartments. Yes department but that is yeah. I mean strong still like real Nicole when we were dating. Yeah Yeah Yeah they did yeah. It's funny even just walking around like he can't tell 'cause I walked out yesterday and just kind of walking around and stuff and Couple of people wearing facemasks. That was it like it's the street scene just as busy like you look at all. The businesses were open and So unless you went to store and tried to buy toilet paper you wouldn't be able to know if there was anything but you don't ghost time. I mean I I look at. I'm kind of go into Knicks me three months ago. But it's like it goes time let's see. Tv March. No an economist looks. Yeah it's everything this show everything I saw pictures and stuff Dublin. And 'cause 'cause I saw stuff for because of the Saint Patrick's Day and they're like this is evidence in an empty. The tourists going over. Isn't that crazy? German paid for the ticket. We've herge their model. Yeah part of a herd John Angie's Oh the heard heard. Sam Heard Immunity. That's it Oh that's right. I saw that. Yeah basically saying look if we just let everybody gets sick the yeah. The survivors will come to build a community. And it's I think it's they're like whole anti immigration thing. They figure most of the immigrants will be the one that gets sick so then weight. Oakland a clear clear some of them out and she wants weird either England or Roy or the rest of the world is rice. Which if you care right. We don't know yes like no dairy. Your data rates are is the rest of the world's wrong we find. We're GONNA get to fight from England's like 'cause sixers apparently Hollander said again something similar to all right that's interesting because you don't know air theory. I'm Dr Age young like I mean you know if your much older whatever it I think. It's an artnews. The median age is forty three. Yes dying from it though like dying from essentially it's a very high energy population twenty three I. I know I want to wait. 'til like just after the viruses lay kind of on the down and and things start opening up in Italy. And that's what I'm planning my trip to Italy because the phone yet. Exactly 'cause all the masses of people won't be back yet but things will be open and under the right time to go into the low to people on this keyboard but mainly that a lot of Irish people when holidays when the schools were slows. You know that's shocking abroad. Like I could fly them back in. Oh that's land area but it's scary because any could be contra abroad into any of US could be anywhere you'll be totally Gertie she's she's going. She was Mexico New Zealand Saturday concerts. Unc S were math museum to their borders to Stag in Prague next month and it got cancelled so hopefully we'll have any problems getting my money back on the hotel and airline that have already paid I think that could be cancelled fast. Net Film Festival Nangle July okay. That goal Maytham might be okay. Fine by them so go is.

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First Picture of a Black Hole

Space Nuts

32:50 min | 2 years ago

First Picture of a Black Hole

"In fifteen seconds guidance internal gen nine ignition sequence, Spence nuts. Three to four or five to one. This report. It feels good. Once again. And thank you for joining us on the space nets podcast, episode one hundred and something forty eight. I think and we're very very excited today because there's been a huge announcement that we gotta be discussing. And that is, well, it's probably notice sacred anymore. The first photograph of a black hole. First time humans have seen a black hole in the flesh. And we've, we're very excited about that. Fred is looking fairly zone before because he's been up half the night. Listening in on the press conference. We'll talk about that also confirmation that there is Maytham on Mars. And we don't think it's mash kettle. So what could it be? And we've got a question from James in Maine, who describes himself as an Astro physicist. Hobbyist I'm more interested in finding out about that. But the question is of doc matter. He's got a bit of an idea, which we will discuss as well. So, Hello, Fred. How are you? You look. I'm very well. Thanks very well. Why do I. Well, yes. Parts of mayor away, but most amazing on. It wasn't a very different reason. We've switched back the waste and standard time here as a cinema radio show. The other day switching out of daylight saving into stand. It Tom is the closest you get the jet lag without moving. And that's been waking up at two and three in the morning and not being able to go back to sleep. It's ridiculous because it's only a one hour shift fitted still knock Charan going backwards suddenly, I'm going to tomorrow. We'll have a real challenge on show, you will. But let's get to the crux of the matter. It's exciting news. That's been announced overnight our time that the event horizon telescope has indeed shown us a black hole for the first time in the history of history. I'm not I'm just starting it that must be Tortola ju think. Absolutely. Right. And you and I talked about this, this forthcoming event for a long time, because we've been spooking the event, horizon telescope for some years, and just to remind everybody, what that is, is, is a network of eight. It's actually eight sets of radio telescopes not state radio telescopes around actively, the western hemisphere of the earth, and they were linked together. In such a way that they can see detail on a scale that is just unbelievable for our US listeners if you were watching from Washington DC with this telescope, you'll be able to read the date on the coin held up here in Los Angeles. So it's not kind of resolution likewise. You could do the same thing with you know, if you imagine yourself in Sydney reading newspaper in Perth over seventy shoulder, as Duffy said this, I would challenge anyone to be able to raid, what's on a two dollar coin in strider at the moment, Thia getting so small with everything they putting on them ridiculous. So I need that telescope when always really need anyway. That's right. So but the big surprise. I'm Andrew is what we didn't see because I think I was not alone. I attended the media conference by livestream mail was never watched it all on the inter-web. I think most people in that audience were surprised that what we weren't seeing was an image of the supermassive black hole at the center of our own galaxy. 'cause that's the nearest one HALE. I automatically thought that's the one we would be looking. Yeah. Me too. But we had hints, I guess earlier in the in the week when, when the announcement was made that there's going to be a major media announcement from the HD the event and telescope we had hint in that in the revealed then this might have been public knowledge before. But I didn't know it the another galaxy besides our own was being observed the galaxy far away, fifty five million light years away. It's called 'em eighty seven and the stunts for Messier Messier was a French, astronomer, who catalogued fuzzy object to the end of the eighteenth century because they got in the way of his coming hunting. So we now have lots of objects in space, which start with an an and this one's MAC seven Messier eighty seven. So this is a. Galaxy with one of the biggest known supermassive black holes of these coal. It's actually about six and a half billion times, the mass of the sun, the one at the center of our galaxy as a thousands of that size. He's about four million Sola mass black hole of which by civil the mass black hole standards is fairly modest. So, so ours is much nearer, but it's much more much smaller. So they've gone for the big one, I and that, that was a surprise. The surprise was when the image was revealed off the seven black hole shadow in the sense because what we saw was a blobby image. And when you imaging something that small fifty five million light years away, you're not going to expect much more than a few blobs like kind of badly, my Donut yet. It looks like. An orange flavored Donut terms, which I think would be disgusting. But I. It's gotta be it's probably cruel to say, because of all the effort, that's gone into this, but it's a pretty underwhelming image in the scheme of things. But it's an EMMY, an image nonetheless, we've got a picture. It actually if the sort of picture, I take us as a stock standard itself. That. That's what you taking simply right in front of the inaugural. Made his way. That's right. So yes, you're right. I was hoping we'd rule the word underwhelming out of this podcast episode for that one. But you're right. It is it is. It's blurry. And that's what you expect. But it does show what we expect to see. And that was really the highlight of, I guess the press conference yesterday the, the project director Delman, somebody asked. Did you have a party when you saw the image? Can he said, no, he said, we're all really surprised that the image looks exactly like expected it to look like. I'm so many times when you an -ticipant a new discovery, you are often shocked by how far off we were with the, the exactly intensified in this case that didn't happen at all. No, that's right. The, the will be new things alone from this, though. So, yes, he really is orange doughnuts to give it the flavor of choice, a minor factor that into the research. But while leave you to tell that the orange doughnut has a bright patch on one side, actually, on the, the lower half is, is brighter than the upper half. In fact, if you look at it closed it looks like a one person with a big smile on this face. It really comes about because the material in that low half of the image is brighter, because it's coming towards these things are rotating almost the speed of light. So does funny things to the radiation. Of course, these radio websit were sitting not light. But that photons nevertheless, worthy, if we had a visible light telescopes sensitive enough, we could probably sit in visible light, but it's very bright in the radio. And of course, the, the dusty parts have galaxies are transparent to radio waves. That's the key thing for using radio telescopes, so. The the. Picture essentially shows as a society said, Dona is black on the outside and black inside. But the reason why it's black on the inside is different from white black on the outside. Yes. All the whole that, that's right. So what, what we seeing is not the event horizon itself event, horizon is the point of no return around the black hole is the bit way. You, you know, you, you lose all hope because you never can get out of it. This is not the event itself, though. This is a kind of silhouette of the event horizon, because all this material is sweeping around the black hole in this enormous gravitational failed and die includes the lines as well. So the photons as well as everything else, so whizzing around the black hole, and the effect of that is that the light, that we can see his photons of light or radio photons jar that have just managed not to be swept up by the black hole lead trajectories men meant that they've skimmed the edge of the event horizon. But then if they've escaped, and they've whizzed off on fifty five million years later, they land in this suite of telescopes in the western hemisphere. So it's, it's a is the nearest thing. We've got to a portrait, apparently an op check. The, the calculations of these, I've got the papers, the research papers, but have not had time to read them yet properly. But the events the whole that we can see the silhouette of the event horizon. I think he's two and a half times bigger than the event horizon itself. So it's like a shadow being cast on the wall, almost that becomes bigger than the object is costing the shadow victory. If you've got the right kind of light source so fantastic stuff, what happens to your that black hole. Such, Terry say the one we all thought we're going to see him itself. And the first question only they're going to have a crack at that. Yeah. The first question in the press. Release was the sort of the media conference when they opened it up to questions, the first one was. So when he gonna show us such a I star, which is the radio name of the black hole of the central galaxy when the, the bottom line, the answer was well we're working on these still we're still working. To get around all the dust and stuff. That's why ready telescopes work better in these circumstances. I was blown away by the amount of data collected. Yes, the right truck. I mean good grief. It was a five Petr buys an a love the comparison one of the scientists in media conference last night. Put it into really. Good temps for me because this is stuff. I listen to all the time. How many how long's with then pay three recordings? Do you think it is? We'll tell you my ally ipod. I've got about a month and a half solid listening. If I wanted to sit down everything back to back back to back. That's right. Whereas this amount of data that they've got from these telescopes. We'll keep you going for five thousand years. Label. I mean, maybe the image wasn't surprising, but the amount of data was. Glide to look they weren't using the NBA in. The copy of the image that I've got now let's just say if I can find it. This is the final image, it sitting on my computer. That is hanging. What is it? Who says it's eleven kilobytes. Five thousand years worth of MP, three daughter and Channing to into a small to grind it down. Yeah, that's why. You see. That's why we call it to reduction, which we do. I've spent a lot of my life, not so much these days, but reducing data you get data from a telescope and then you reduce it and I was thinking the reductionist turning into something useful. But the, the word is well, well chosen, especially when he get five Tobias down to what was it eleven kilobytes pretty good. Pretty images just gone beserk alive. At the place popping up everywhere, people are looking at it going, and I guess the remaining question is are we ever likely to be able to get a clear image? I'm sure we will. Because in fact, this was flagged in the media conference that. You know, the next thing is to expand the project with more telescopes. So you vent horizon telescope fills in the, you know, the gaps you've only go eight it's not quite only data points on the sized radio dish. But it's that kind of thing at the mall telescopes, you can put in more detail you fill in with the images, plus the going to go to high frequencies on what that does is gives you better resolution. So you say motel if you can observe this thing at high frequencies. So there is a stuff to come, which I think is really accelerating, man, just met, one more come into the, the, the media conference saw Andrew, and that is that the project director, ship adult common he well, if is a big collaboration, and he paid tribute to the many, many scientists involved but he had a special. Praise for the early career researchers who carried out a lot of the drudgery there. Dots. You know that that's really nice. When people do that they actually cover the, you know, the people who are the post docs, in the PHD students who are very small cogs in a big gearbox, but they do they do a fantastic job. Yes, indeed. And I imagine that they will be able to study this daughter and this image in and learn so very much about black halls in Tom dot com. Whilst would you say it's all a learning experience. It's all a bad knowledge, so. Yeah. They should be congratulated. It's fantastic project, and we will hear more about it. I do not doubt. You're listening to space nuts with Fred Watson, and Andrew Dunkley. Radio show. We scour the planet to find the biggest names in hell creativity. Wellness strategy brand management more. This is going to be crazy. Jason overcome retin-a on gator. Coach this is Cal Newport, author of deep workday, Brian par that. Found injury. Beckham. They Canadian national women's rugby team, Lucas freaking. Lucas freaking case, Kate fighter missing and Bodo radio. So I'll be to see you. We asked them the big questions, MS such a great question. Actually landed right on the MARCY, another really good question. Great talking to quarter, dudes turns on. On a little bit more in their views that I had on the lake five hundred interviews. But nobody asked me about this. Wow. Wow. Sometimes we talk about darts. Very oh, can I tell you Dainik Jerry's favorite sport? He's dots. How athletes is that I think it's interesting that it's your favorite, but don't be. That I know of a prerequisite is a pint of beer and a cigarette. Come on. Let's be honest. We don't take ourselves too seriously. Wrong half dozen dots in a row. We hope you will check us out weekly on your favorite podcast platform. Pistols? Space. Nets male. Fred to a another mystery of our solar system, and no less exciting in many respects, and that is that it seems to have been confirmed that there are sparks of Mason on Mars, or in the Martian atmosphere, which we have spoken about once or twice, and I think it even came up in our last episode just off the cuff. The mystery of this is funding the source. Indeed. That's right. So, yeah, the may spikes, we've, we you and I have definitely spoken about them before they are fascinating because it's a story that's been hanging around for well, best part, ten years, I think, why, why is an interesting because Maitha in, in an atmosphere? Certainly like the atmosphere of Mars is dissociated by sunlight into his component atoms disappears. So if you've got anything, you've got a source of it somewhere on earth. The main source of meeting is biological activity. And so, you know, that's why everybody gets very excited about it, so that there have been several reports of, of me sane. In fact, I think I'm writing saying that it was detected initially by Earth-based telescopes. There are a few looking in the millimeter, wavelength wavelength range of radio astronomy, the kind of stuff the almandoz, you know, the Atacama large millimeter. Right. Which, by the way, was one of the component telescopes of the event horizon telescope. But if you're looking at that wavelength region, then you can detect a very small quantities of, of, of, of compound is going to say element, but of course, compile in, in an atmosphere and it, so I think that detect earth detections have been made, but there are many instruments on under around Mars, which also up for the job of detecting. Any particular curiosity, the Rover, that is currently the only remaining active Rover on the surface of Mars. There is another active machine on the surface of Mars. But that that is the that's not a roving won. The Rover is. The only one curiosity that is a quick to his detectors for me. An indeed. They've they've detected spikes of me. By spike to me suddenly there and then suddenly it's not. So it says the trundled across the Martian surface, there's been a whiff of the whiff of, may that it sends Stanley recorders registered that, and then it's gone away again. Now, there are two other spacecraft which. Equipped with Mason sensing equipment, and one is the both ISA European Space Agency's spacecraft. One is Mars express, which has been orbiting Mars now for probably fifteen years or so is quite a long time. That has also detected maintain but just let me mention the other one, which is another Acer spacecraft. You and I have spoken about before 'cause indicate went into it last year or the year before it is part of aces. Exile MAs project, which is a two pronged project. One is over to the Orlando, which will think fly next year. X Omar's looking for life. But the thing that's in orbits at the moment is called the trace gas, orbiter, and that tells you everything you want to say no bit, and it's looking for trace trace detections of gas and may, of course, is what everybody's interested in so okay. Curiosity. I think it was the fifteenth of June twenty thirteen detected a spike. So suddenly there was this waft of Maytham went past the curiosity Rover as it was on Mars. And the reason why this is hitting the headlines now is that data analysis and all the rest of it shows that the day after that on the sixteenth of June twenty thirteen Mazda express also detected a Mason spine from above the atmosphere. So I think it was looking kind of in the right direction so to wallow since two independent sources well, two independent measurements possibly from the same source. They, they looked. The thought the location of the may find source was about five hundred kilometers to the east of democratic, which is where curiosities troubling around. So it's possible that, that, that solves, you know, with prevailing winds going from east to west which. Sounds a bit wonky to me. But this is Mars. We're talking about not there. There are notions on MAs not, because that's what makes the difference. But maybe the to have the same source because the me, thanks bikes are so close together in time, however. This is a contradictory result, which has also been published within the last week or two, which comes from the trace gas orbiter the thing that sent there to actually look for me thing around Bosnia. Luckily, wasn't in orbit back in two thousand thirteen is more recent than that, but so far, they haven't filed any, so that's the surprised that we would have expected that this space craft which is designed specially to look for these interesting gases in the Martian atmosphere, have not yet found it. And yet, there is, you know, pretty solid evidence from other sources that there is me thing there. So what is it? What's going on other instrumental issues, here is at calibration issue, something gone wrong with one of the instruments on. They left the lettuce kept on. You don't need a lens cap. You should know that. Yeah. No, it's it's, but I think this is one of the, you know, one of the things that will probably be resolved. I'm sure we will find somebody that I don't think there's a lens cafe shoe or a you know, equivalent in, in the radio. Frequency spectrum. I suspect it's more about the fact that perhaps would just been out of luck in terms of may using up in the time that exit XML's orbiter has been there. I think the thinking though it seems to be very much that this might well be volcanic origin rather than biological origin. I think is coming out a little bit more strongly in the reports that were reading from the European Space Agency. So maybe it is bowl Cannock. We will hopefully eventually find out because I think they if I remember rightly the trice Gus orbiter has the wherewithal to do isotopic analysis and different isotopes of these atoms have different origins. And if he can find out what isotope you talking about than you might be able to say. Well, that only comes out of living, organisms, or it only comes out volcanoes. So it's still a watch this space. I'm afraid. I mean they've, they've sort of demonstrated in one of the articles, all the possibilities and one is biological. Another one is, is a chemical reaction. They same. Be the two most likely. We know that tectonically speaking. Mas is pretty well, just a rock, but something's going on up there. Yeah. Well, it certainly has been going on in the past. Could it be the last gasps of new did world? Yeah. I think that's, that's probably what you know, the planetary. Scientists think it is, as you said the last gasps of, you know, maybe the last vestiges of plate tectonics, that perhaps shutdown amass three billion years ago, something like that. Yeah. We will hopefully learn more and then not too distant future about may fan on Mars. You're listening to space nuts Andrew Dunkley here. With of course. Professor, Fred Watson. Fourth. Space nuts. Mail fraud wig. I do. One question today, simply because we the clock on the black hole. This one comes from James Lancaster in Maine. And he describes himself as an Astro physicist hobbyist. That's really exciting. Going to have to Email me, James and explain it again. I'd like to know what that entails. But he says, thank you, gentlemen. For producing my favorite podcast. It's to strangely enough James. It's what I listened to it. When I scoped my busy life. Here's my question. We all know the massive stars black holes planets at Sitra. It can be inferred by observing their orbits. We also know that objects on the periphery of galaxies at traveling too fast to be explained by the observable mess of those galaxies. Where does it all breakdown? When do we think a win do we need to think about doc matter to explain the objects orbiting the galactic centre? That's a deep question. It's a great question. It's a great question. James, you told to James from it, but I was going to say it's a great question drew to glad asked it. Yes. I'm glad you passed it on Jay. I think. I'm very sympathetic to anybody who's an astrophysicist hobbyist because that's what I am to some are managed to get paid for it. Which just is extra really James. I think since he has the letters MD after his name is a much more useful purpose that sorry, much more useful person to minister physicist will be. So it's great to hear from you James, and it's a great question. Let me try and. Painted a picture. I'm going to draw graph in your imagination. He's okay, a graph of with two axes. The horizontal one is the increasing distance from the center of a galaxy. So you start off with zero which is right in the middle of the galaxy weather's a supermassive black hole. And then you go out in distance along the horizontal axis going to the right out in. Thousands, and eventually hundreds of thousands of light years, then on the vertical axis the you know, the, the one that points up with. Yeah. You have rotation speed. It's this is what we call a rotation curve, because it showing how the rotation of a galaxy changes as you move outwards. So what you would expect if what's in a galaxy is all you can see. What you'd expect would be the rotation speed. I it's very small exactly in the middle but very quickly realizes too, you know, couple of hundred kilometers per second. Very, very near to the center of the galaxy in exactly the, the way that the James mentions that we can measure the massive of a black hole by the rotation of the stars around it. So it's very high at first, but then you expect it to take a very very close to the galactic centre, and then stopped falling off in a smooth way. The actually never quite gets to zero. So you expect the rotation to be near the middle. It's very high, and then falling away gradually. What astronomers found though when they made real measurements in this goes back to the work of Ken Freeman here in Australia v Rubin in the USA. A notable scientists to that perhaps the best known names associated with this, what they found when they looked at real galaxies, and they were doing it with a certainly very I think, was looking at radio, the radio signals coming from clouds of gas, going round which behave in the same way they just trace his whole the mass in the galaxy is doing. But the bottom line is you find. Yes, it's zero. The middle goes up pretty steep late in the middle and then starts flattening off, but it never comes back down again. And so the picture you've got his of a curve, a rotation curve that starts off very steeply increasing, and then around about the same place where it would have turned over. Have there been no mass in the galaxy? It, it starts to turnover but it never gets horizontally, basically just continues gradually increasing out to the most distant limits. We can say. So it's not a sudden change. It's not, you know where we need to think about that matter. That's a good question to us. But actually is the whole shape of the rotation curve that tells you that the only way you can have this kind of rotation curve is if the galaxy itself is immersed in a blob of something massive, and that Sadat matter. That's why win for so it's the whole galaxy selfless telling you that not just want, basically great question. Yeah. Fantastic. I drew a graph rid good. Am I close? Yeah. That's that's. I used to know mountain dislike. But, but yes, it is. It's a close close to it that proves that you actually explained it quite well. If I if I can take what you said and turn it into a little picture on a piece of paper and be right. I must have missed my calling at school. Too many pipelines. That's the problem. Should have drawn on them instead of flying. I did do that. But I got in trouble for that, too. Would not very positive. We might not good. Now, we went by James. Thank you for your question. Thank you for getting in touch with us from mine. We appreciate it, and we do love your questions. And you messages sometimes people just send us photos. Sometimes they just send us a note to say, hi, and we, we love all that. So keep them coming in, and Fred, thank you. It's been a blockbuster episode with the first photo of a black hole, and the confirmation of methane. Sparks on Mars. So we've, we've had a pretty big day. I already together slate really. Oh sleep. Well, Andrew asleep. Well, you get the jet like. You too having right through the night to get all this news. So we appreciate it. And thank you, as always. It's great fun. Yeah. You know it's just wonderful to see all these new discoveries coming. I'm just thrilled to be able to talk about hundred. So we'll see you next time we will Fred Watson, astronomer at large, and from may Andrew Dunkley. Thank you for your company, and we will be back with you again next week. To this place. Nuts podcast. 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E144: The Making of Pele

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E144: The Making of Pele

"Hello and welcome to unofficial part of the sports business podcast. I'm richard gillis today. We're talking about pele. The greatest football ever discuss and specifically the new documentary film of his life released on netflix. This week the film chronicles pele's life on and off the field from his first world. Cup appearance in nine hundred. Thirty eight through the great final of nine hundred seventy period in which brazil move from democracy to dictatorship. An pele himself moved from an unknown teenager to the most famous sportsman in the world out guests of films directors. Ben nicholas and david try horn and we discussed the storytelling challenge in herrin long-form sports documents. The issue of editorial integrity and the expectations we project onto athletes when it comes to social and political activism if you like unofficial partner your love the weekly newsletter which is read by thousands of people across the global sports business and is where we talk about the topics and themes that arise from the 'cause conversations. We can send it direct to your inbox. Every thursday or you've got to do is sign up for unofficial partner dot com. Where you know say. Find our back catalogue of podcasts. Ali slipper has been on. I've been trying get trevor east on. But he won't come on. He's got lots of great stories but shy. Which is which is very irritating. Trevor east east shy as a headline the film. Let's just before we get into the to the sort of detail of the film. Can we get to how it happened over. The ben and i both have been working in the the world of sports documentary filmmaking little wild now and it's a golden period. I guess at the moment for the sports don't commend trait and there are only so many stories and every year another sort of ten fifteen twenty major sports stocks come out. The production. Company initially commissioned. This pitch have caught a few links with brazilian football. One for some reason the conversation got to palais anyway. And i remember. We were chatting entangled. There's never really been i. It's a story that everyone has a very superficial knowledge of and it's one that has never really had definitive and cinematic treatment. That probably deserves a career repeats his stature and so we discussed it with the guys pitch and they were quite cain. And i'm ben. And i will will sort of starting to put a structure together and then one of the executives a page Jonathan rudge's he. And i flew out to new york to meet patties manager in a. I think there was a snowstorm. At the time he was going gonna be a a two day trip for absolutely nothing because we still stood up by his manager on the first night that we actually had breakfast with him and took him through the ideas but anyway went back and forth for probably six seven eight months between pitch between bannon. I between pele's happening has a very small team around him. But between palestine until we find the kind of agreed on the approach. And then i flew out to brazil to chat with pele. Sit down with him. Tell him what we will all plans were unto the workout. How on board. He he would be with that. And that's kind of how it started. And i think our main intention of the beginning was right. We really wanna contextualized pele because people have this very superficial knowledge of his story and because he's always the reference point in the who's the greatest discussions but i guess with time that becomes increasingly irrelevant and so i think the the main idea of the documentary was to show the viewer. He became who he became how he became this. Myth i guess a humanized as well because again with the passage of time we increasingly see palais less as a footballer. More is a guy in a suit at a world cup droll and so i think it was interesting process kind of and share the man behind the maytham and humanize him to the point that we can establish an emotional connection with with the view as someone who's become very familiar to people in some ways but also very enigmatic as well and largely because of the era he played in so we always felt that he was someone as they've said who likes that kind of definitive cultural reference point for a modern audience especially as they've said he's got this kind of everyone has kind of one minute youtube completion in ahead of what pele's life is but not much else so that was the two main things we wanted to do to explain. How does someone become this mythical character. What are the things that needs to happen in brazil and around the world to make a guy come a mythical god almost by the age of seventeen where then crucially also humanize him so. Those are the two main things. Can we explain the myth. But can we also humanize the myth. What would the levers that you had the incentives for him to do it. I think it's probably a case of timing as much as anything you know. He's eighteen now so He has made he's written a few Face he's made. A few films have had release his only in brazil and never. I've never really felt we're up to the standard that the they should have been escape to victory oversleep. Yes scape- escape to victory is yet a different different conversation but I think we made me realize that this is about his legacy as much as anything. He's not he's a little bit more reflective on his life and i think he's. He's very keen to still be part of that conversation. As who's the greatest. I think it gets over exaggerated how we would always get involved in that conversation because i think journalists just asking the same question the whole time and and it probably gets boring for him but at the same time i think he is immensely proud about what he did especially what he did for his country. He's a very very proud brazilian. And i think that's that's kind of how we sold it to him. This was a chance really to show. Future generations why we com. Forget him in the in the conversation why he's still relevant also knew that i think he also knew it was kind of now. We'll never as well. This is maybe in a last chance to cement that legacy and he's kind of fascinating mixture of old fashioned star and also just quite sweet humble guy. But i think he's eighteen now and he's a. He's one of the younger guys in the film so i think he'd reach an age way. He felt more reflective. And and i think the time was maybe him to open up on camera in a way in a way he hasn't done before it wasn't it wasn't just him. I think we're looking a whole generation. Probably two generations. Brazilian is in that era a represented and you know this the likes of zagallo. Who's one full. Well cups Oversee to to manager or management and. He's closing ninety. You know wanna pele. Strike pottery samples continue. We probably get his last ever interview before he passed away. Same with patterson co pass away during filming off the after we interviewed him so it was a little bit of a race against time with some of these guys. But i think it is it. Was that fact that this is probably the sort of last will and testament of an entire generation of players. That i think may might so important. You only have to look at members of the england sixty six team who died in just the past two or three years alone and and you know there were very few survive is now in brazil. Left fifty eight and sixty two and that will eventually be the case with seventeen. So i think it was important to get these guys testimony. While they're all still alive. Mother will still remembering it. What did you learn about brazil. Sixty s what you really is. It's as you say it's a film about pele. Ambu on their relationship between fifty eight and seventy so. It's about his personal identity. And also brazil's national identity because brazil before pele and afterpay two totally different places in terms of cultural national identity and just more generally how they feel about themselves as a country before play brazil is a country riddled with self doubt and he arrives on the scene and says you know what forget about everything before. Just give me the ball. I'm gonna. I'm gonna take care things from now on. And that is such a profound moment for the country that he instantly italians this status king seventeen symbol of a new brazil and he becomes a catalyst in the spark for brazil's golden years. On a thing that's really. There was a lovely mirror when we were sitting down structure the film and we always wanted this kind of time period. We didn't really want to go beyond seventy. We felt once you start getting beyond seventy. The narrative starts going up and down and it doesn't have that natural log that gives you dramatic tension that you need in film like this and at the same time in the late fifties and sixties in brazil. This was a huge cultural boom economic. Boom of which the world cup victories in fifty eight sixty two possibly also had bossa nova becoming sort of music sensation in the world. A brazilian films were winning. The palm door can only things seem to happen at once and then kind of bang in the middle of awesome twelve year time period. A right wing. Military dictatorship comes in and has been set sort of brazilian world. Tease into pele's likes may have this symbolic relationship. Where when pele's on the rise brazil's on the rise when when brazil's onyx knees pilates on his knees and to takes us to our inevitable climax in one thousand nine hundred seventy and i seventy is the crucial thing is. We were saying this. This whole thing about identity. The film really is about identity as much as anything. So pre fifty at you you know. We always think of brazil. Is the country football. That's not really the case. Pre fifty eight and seventy gives pele. That rubber-stamp mortality. But it also gives brazil that that rubber-stamped identity that off to seventy two plus thing people think about brazil was football and that's pretty much down to one guy. We we lights them. We liked this idea that by the time we reach the end in seventy brazil is really on its knees which seems crazy given the it was at the top of the world five years previously. But there's this question in the Brazil get it back compelling get it back kenny. Do it again can remember what he did. In fifty eight why it was important. What it represented. How does he want to remember. But and what kind of country does brazil want to be interesting theme that you brought out with the relationship between him and receive got this vicious right-wing hunter who would take control and quite often looking back. People criticize him for not being active enough or criticizing the regime enough. And that's one of the themes that comes out. I wonder what your view of it is. Because it's really complicated. And i don't know why i think i think we came away thinking and this is and this is something i think we. We came to from spending time with him. I know sir spending all the time looking back at russia's looking back at what he did and what he didn't do but we've always said that pele someone exploded onto the scene in the late fifties and for whatever reason he really kind of suits that time he really understood how to be a stall in the late fifties early sixties. He really understood what people wanted from a star We often compare it to like a hollywood actor from the old studio system. He's got that kind of quality about him so he saw his job than was to kind of turn up every week. Be the best football in the world represent brazil around the world and smile for the camera essentially and he's unbelievable at it. He gives the people exactly what they want. As i say then as the mid sixties come along. I think what people want from a style will demand from a star starts this ship lightly you see people like mohammed. Ali emerge the black power. Sue is at dreux and suddenly. Pele's babe outstep with that time now i we. Don't we try in the film not to speak for him or anything. But i would argue. If you'll pele in everything you touched. His tend to go for the first half of your career is quite hard to sunday. Pivot become a radical figure who's challenging the establishment but i think he rightly or wrongly decides up to now. We're working really well. i'm pele. i'm going to stick to the plan. And i'm going to opt out of this woman may need. I think because he didn't want to but because he found himself going down a path and decides to stick to it. That's who i am. I think it's also important to think about his upbringing as well. He comes from a obviously a very humble background. I'm one thing we pointed out. He very very stable family. Which i think helped him cope with some of the pressures of fame where other players perhaps didn't cope to the same extent. I'm probably him becoming partly establishment would have probably bring the families dream for him. You know that that's exactly what you need to become. You need to become becoming. Partly snobbish is good so in a way he's he's fulfilling What his family. The partha is family. Would've sat out for him and then. I think you know the probably educational rest whether he traveled quips enough. You have to remember age. I think pele's got one of those faces in one of those. Look you know the heck out so we stayed the same. We always think he's about fifty win. The military dictatorship came in brazil. Nineteen sixty four. He was twenty three When nine hundred seventy comes around and we see him as this veteran player one final gunslinger with one final fight. He's only twenty nine so he's he is still very young and then it's dangerous. Attempts always trying compare some civil rights movements or things happening society with the us in the sixties and won't brazil did have movement against the government of course like did they want same extended civil rights movements in america. So that wasn't that same sense precedent. The is a movement. I should get on board with other players making stan no other players who are making a stand even to educated ones. Like till style in the late sixties. No other players were making Wasn't resisting bandwagon to jump on and he probably didn't really have the press players now beginning to see that power the power that they have so much more which is fascinating and it's great but they have had the precedent will their lives they have had mohammed ali to look at. They've they've they've seen the rebelliousness of the maradonna or something again. Because pilot was the first. He didn't have that. I think that's exactly that that the temptation for him to suddenly become will to go from being the symbol of a new country the symbol of a massive country to then become a divisive figure. I felt like an attractive option for him. An honest they've said. Lebron james marcus. Russia these days so many more examples to look to you about. Oh maybe i could do this. Maybe i could do that. Maybe doing this will help me. Not not harm. Might not harm my standing. But didn't have that he didn't have those precedents and didn't have the examples and as i said decided to stick to the program. It's not funny. This isn't justifying told. Because it's it's not something we sought to do we didn't want to condemn or justify in the film but it was the press this week. That was quite interesting. Also by a brazilian journalist who who was talking you know. Demanding heroism with of others. And there's probably we. Arthur thrash saying you know being a reveler hero or an activist is quite complicated thing that said you know we will. We will want our heroes to be radicals but it's very easy to say that from the comfort of our own home and i think he's happy now on the pitch On the pitch pele was king if hit if it been as good off the pitch as he was on the pitch than it had been a god but we convert them than we con expects everything they are criticized for being too quiet and also for being too loud and this is particularly true black athletes actually and this goes back to arthur ashe king criticizing for not saying anything you know we. Now think of our ashes a great sort of political activist and sports star but actually the criticism early on is that he. He wasn't vocal in the same way as we criticize tiger woods or michael jordan in a different context or very you know they appear to be more much more commercially minded and much less about societal sort of causes republicans buy sneakers to etc and pele is a sort of is is a bit of both of those things. There's a brand there. If you look at it crudely the and we've great brands. people always project onto them on prejudices and thoughts and feelings. I'm just wondering what the role television in this story because It's incredible looking at me now but i was too young to remember ninety seventy but i've got such a very vivid memories and i'm just wondering if it's to do with color television just collective memory. Would you think. I think it's massive. I think the nature of the nature of tv and also the nature of fame is so interesting in the film as a few a few shots in the film where you see kind of pele in the middle of the crowd with fans running onto the pitch being yanked pulled in every direction in a way that would just be inconceivable today. He's public property basically at that time On the other hand as you say he someone. That had a bit afford june in his life in terms of just time and time again being the white man at the right time he explodes onto the scene time when. Tv's becoming the next big thing. Appetizing with celebrities to sell products is becoming big magazines. Getting huge to this kind of i. Two a couple of star will time someone with a great smile to put on the front page. Plus travel is starting to become affordable Brazil are able to monetize pele tool the world year after year with him as the kind of main attraction. So yeah someone says in the film. He's a product of his era and somehow he instinctively seems to understand how to work that how to work fame and how to work the media and again as you say he gets really lucky. Again in nineteen seventy would not becomes the first world cup to be shown around the world in color because seeing polite look so majestic in the best of all the time i think is a huge paw off his mythology but that is just his goodful june again so i think all these things come together to help. Kind of perpetuate the creation of pele. I think that whole you know seeing seeing the yellow shirts is huge to the site. Mike is a child of the eighties. I'm that magical yellow show. Brazil was was something so special when you saw the blue shows the white sox and i think everyone around the world has that i think that is down. Seventeen is we were talking about identity again. It's not perfect. Timing that seventy again. By everyone's saying in color it is forging identity in brazil and how we recognize and then the footage is spectacular. The it's so cinematic. The stuff around nineteen seventy is crazy. Yeah i always say. The nineteen seventy woke up and the nineteen eighty-four olympics better than that coverage. Wise footage voice. How do you get the footage. Is it expensive kombi. It's i think there were about sixty five different sources of archive for the for the film which is pretty huge. When would probably dealt with another forty on something that that. We ended up not choosing to use some of that footage. We had a brilliant. All searcher are out in brazil antonio financier who had worked on films like senator. He the big brazilian archival based films And then we had a great guy over the move. She was kind of responsible for the archive In the rest of the world. I'm sort of helping us piece it all together. Unfortunately that's how it is you get you. You approach various archives and see what they have it comes in you. Hope for something incredible. You get disappointed when something average arrives then move on you you keep moving on and you keep moving on sunday with a film like this. I think we said to ourselves one point whenever ever doing a film weather. So much footage from the fifties sixties needed again. I'm so much of its from brazil. We come against complicated can get expensive. Been getting some of the postage. in brazil. Brazil suddenly became the epicenter of the pandemic made life extremely difficult. You have some people not willing to even license their footage some people wind license to the streamers when they know net flicks other people just in brazil where they just simply refuse to license that petition. Already chill why you have these problems on the plus side. I guess some of the first people used to show a lot on film so it looks spectacular. It looks beautiful. Lotta those out. Welcome russia's we were talking about nineteen seventy that shelton filming. It looks incredible The problem is you don't have people with camcorders like you would in the eighties nineties. Two thousand filming everything filming long takes filming with audio so you end up getting lots of little to the twelve second burst. That usually often done sound. And then that's that's very difficult to try and put those little these little fragments of archive together to create kind of coherent scene. It's not just one constant montage and occasionally you have to resort to a bit a montage because you you have no other way of doing it but yeah was. It was the really heavy. The heavy work of project light. This is done in the edit. And so much of that while while the interviews k. In the spine of your film so much of that is is the archive and there's no visual references. That just kind of hit a an emotion that palais showing or or what. What the feeling is at the time we were lucky. I think it's especially in terms of on pitch stuff. We're very lucky to have a pitch behind us. Who a of the experts in the sports rights industry and said how their expertise with that kind of thing. I think made it more a condemnation. Come to this film without doing something like this before. And and and try and work out how to navigate the archives. And i think it would be. It would send you matt is it. You both work full pitch or you. Are you sort of independent production company that work into an pitcher the distributed. How does it just break that down for us. I i went for pitch and so you know recently. Probably in the last four or five years pitches always had a production department or production wing. It has been said it's mania sports rights company but in the last four five years it started to expand into higher end documentary films and series So in the last few years alone We could pick film on. Kenny dalglish Big film on. Andy murray on amazon a couple of years ago a series on newer nothing series on brazil for amazon as wells have pitched sort of expanding into this market and yet i worked for them and ben is independent but benadryl tend to What together on on on films mentioned earlier that this is a sort of golden era for and it's a guess my question is to do with authenticity. There's a range. I guess documentaries from authentic editorially lead documentaries but also go into you know the cricket australia one which i'm hoping you didn't have is it was perfectly acceptable was a viewing experience. But you always felt that. There was a hand of the pr department and shaping the narrative. And i'm a spurs fan. I watched all or nothing spurs documentary. And i came away thinking always being manipulated to an extent. It was quite good fun watching marino girl about the place but ultimately it was a good news story and it felt like a pr led exercise. What do you think about that. How do you deal with that because oversee as documentaries sort of become more prevalent even see that as community just as communication sort of assets. They are valuable. I can see why rightsholder a team would want to do one. But it's a problem in terms of independence. Think i'm i'm a fan as well and i think really got the impression that the documentary's really important to the to the i think they sacked. I got it got to the point. Wyoming stately To get marina Full the documentary. Almost it kind of seemed like everything was built around. Forbid to get the arnold schwarzenegger afoot bull in to help out for the first couple of episodes of the documentary. And i think those first two three really great marina was really into it and Happy to have the cameras in his office all the time. I think when things when the season started to drift of it It may be may maybe lost its footing slightly but i think in terms of you know often it's often. It's all about eve on this project. We have people say you know it'd be great to dance with eight episodes. Something always really comes down to archive really the quality of archiving as you say where the coming from the reason for the archive is and i think the works so well on some of that allows don's because i just had hundreds of hours of some quite independent guy capturing stuff throughout jordan's law season so they were able to go back and forth in time but they always had this footage that hadn't been used before wasn't really done With the club as such. It wasn't a it wasn't a sponsored thing and they able to capture real genuine behind the scenes insight. Something like that. You can really feel that and as you say you can. You can feel the opposite when it's been when when the the hands of the is a old over it i think it's a really good question though about authenticity. And how you deal with it because obviously if you're gonna make it feel when pele the first thing was palace involvement but you're not going to go to say we we're gonna we're gonna take down dot com. You destroy your reputation and he's gonna get past guys you know where where do i. Where do i sign. And that's the problem so you either go. There was a recent tiger woods for a very good recent tiger woods documentary Hbo that was on sky. hit And they had no involvement from tiger or his team or anyone really really close to him. And you have to decide your route. You're gonna go that route. I knew gonna probably get in the inner circle. B be comforting. You can get enough on the outer circle to make to make take down or you gotta go through official channels at the moment you guys who official channels then have this authenticity dilemma. But i think the key thing is you know we. We made sure that pele understood what we were trying to do in our initial conversations And we we. We respectfully would allow him in his team's watch cuts in terms of accuracy that we weren't saying anything completely factually incorrect. You know he didn't have any sign off in how how film was shaped editorially or how it looked even with no one hundred centuries seen it yet so it's it's It was something we thought long and hard about. Because you don't wanna make it hockey over you're going to get criticized and especially when we're talking about making politis more human character then you're gonna have you gotta you gotta show floors everybody's flawed. I'm going to highlight as close as we do in this sort of when you know the relationships and when people accused him of being political at the same time though you wanna. He's your hero. I guess in in your movie so you want to celebrate him. You don't want the audience coming away gun cut. I i- pele and there's always this. I remember halfway through the edit and we switched editors in the new editor came in watch and with being so desperate not to show the sort of double thumbs up to the big smiley politer. We're used to seeing because we wanted to show that conversion of got rid of all the all the smiles and all the human wolves and in that temptation to kind of showing you version of and remember the new editor going yeah. I'm just not warming him at all. And so so important that you you. You still have figure that you're gonna connect to and that so by the time we get to nine hundred seventy. The view is desperate for in brazil to win. 'cause that's the point so it's always fine line where you're celebrating the individual but you're not trying to pray want ninety minutes people god. He was great. He was the best he was the best. It's quite difficult with that when you've got someone so famous for such a long time that they become sort of anecdote machines and they sort of. It's quite go. There's a comfort zone where they go in trot out a story that they think they you want so. Is it just a question of time being able to see it with them for enough time to get beyond that. Yeah because i think after awhile you'll get your dealing with memories of memories of time you know so much of what we were asking. Pele was from fifty sixty even seventy years ago. I think a lot of probably forgotten. Or he's just remembering what he's told people and that's how you remember it so i it's exactly that we have probably the best of eight or nine days with him across sort of two years of filming and with just back sporadically. And you know we all you guys are here again. What what what do we need now would have to assess out the exact same shot so it looks identical which would always take take considerable time and you just days where we know we were pushing and get nothing from him you know. He didn't wanna talk about relationships he really didn't want to talk about politics An and hit hit sort of he might even confuse some of the world cups and some of the memories and some of the stories and you leave that day. Feeling really so downhearted. And how are we gonna put this together. And then you'll have other days where he was brilliant. Really happy to to talk about certain things you know. He might say close down and talk about relationships among before a now he was kind of happy and very open talking about it so i think it is time. It's building confidence. It's getting lucky. And then when you do have that little moment of oh. He's owning up kind of drilling in a little bit more. Probably just wearing him down in the anything. Just tell us. I think that was a big choice. In why remade the film in the style we did. We wanted people. We wanted him on camera. We wanted him talking. Portuguese very importantly we wanted the audience to be able to sit with him and kind of unfilled connected to him But i suppose. Paul job was as they've said in. He plays a guy who since the age of seventeen has had a microphone his face every time he steps out the door so he's probably created a set of kind of stock answers to get himself through these interviews. So you a big part of what we do was spend time with him right down. What through those and then try and get to something authentic. Try and get something deeper to explain to him. We don't want the same old story you want to do. Something different something better for the film for us but also better for him and and his legacy and the the reunion barbecue was lovely yet. That was that was. That was a really nice moment. i think it is quite a melancholy. Highlight we see. An interview is quite at the time and i think it was really important to show him upbeat and happy and i think he's having those memories being apply that there's a little at the end where he says. Don't eat too much We could gain tomorrow. You really feel all of them transported back in that particular moment in time but i think it was a conscious decision and it took. It took us a lot of persuading. He wasn't keen to do that Because he gets emotional. I think he thought saying everyone would make him emotional and we really sort of convince because it. It's again that that sort of the image. We have appellate much. These days is the guest of honor at some function in a suit. Anonymity is very very resilient. He's he likes to wear shorts. T shirts and flip blocks and hang out in his in his backyard and eighteen drinking tropical. Jesus he's he's. He's stereotypical stereotypically brasilia. So we so we wanted to. We wanted to show him with his teammates. One of the boys in that very relaxed environment. And i think what really nicely and his manager since told us that despite taking ages to persuade them to do it Apparently he's still talking about it a year on it was it was still kind of highlight of his. I think so meeting meeting with the boys again. And it's not miraculous thing where you know there's other guys are in their eighties and this was probably you know people talk about the great real madrid side of the fifty s or guardiola's barcelona and the ac milan's even the nineties but that sounds so statement the fifties. Yeah that sounds. We'll stay in. The fifties was possibly the greatest well club side of time and so to have an nearly all of the major players unbelievably still alive so we thought it was really crucial to actually get them all together. It's funny everyone. You talk to about polite and everyone we spoke to on the film will always say oh. He's so humble humble and that was definitely true they went they went lying but he's also the king and he knows he's the king So we always have to remember that dating with one of the most famous men to ever will planet hit So in that sense you'll never one hundred percent. Sure he's gonna turn up. Never hundred percents will how much time we're gonna get never really show how will go down. But sometimes good things come from that and the opening of the film when he walks in for instance is completely of saying okay. This is the first day of filming as soon as you hear the call up putting up outside. Just turn the camera on. Let's get everything. And then he walks in you see that silhouette new seat you get that quite powerful image to not something like that was quite happy accident but speaks a lot. All the kind of prepped. We have to take any chances. It's funny the central thing. As i never realized how much they were sort of harlem globetrotters away. They put them on the road the whole time. It's a hard side to. It's really hard side to kind of do justice from a cinematic view. We found because they Brazil was still playing regional leagues up until nineteen seventy seventy one You know you want to kind of go. Intense won the league We didn't really wanna go down the route of sons on the same palace state championship And then it's been said because they sort of came out with a couple of So early It was one of the reasons we decided to structure the film around the world cup's unless around what he did for the club but the statistics have kind of i think before pele joined santos said one about three regional tournaments and then after it was kind of identity exact statistics but it's something like ten regional tournament seven brazilian two national cups to Doors to well club cups. It's just ludicrous. How his harshest say man because he had some brilliant players around him but he was he was the star manathat fat side. May they will. They will admit it but it is amazing. Man could transform again transformed the club's identity as much as with his nation. We're to think that. Santos almost i think they had to almost take themselves out of. They didn't play the liberty doors for many years because they were on the road so much so they took. They took pele's chance to win. More things away from him by choosing opting to kind of make money so they can play all the competitions and they. They used any spare time they had to hit the plane. Hit the Hit the tarmac. But yeah the central thing is crazy. Really when you think. Back to the back to that. Nineteen sixty-two crumble cup. Final against benfica. When it must have been a real chance for everyone in brazil just the square european for up to south american football and speak so loud to how good pele was the steps up nasa two legged final. He scores two goals in the game. In a hattrick in the second game away and yeah something that you can't escape just how great aside. That was just sort of rich bush's relationship with monday night. He's he's rich. I would say he's not. He's no by today's standards. He wouldn't be he's not name already. She's not he's not a outta messy rich and i think he's someone who by his own. Admission didn't trust the white people host career a couple of times when he was going quite close to the edge had to work his way back up again. So yeah he's he's rich and old money but winds as a rich rich by today's standards. I think i think he gets accused. Often of chasing those endorsement deals in chasing the money. I think one journalist who knows him very well put it really well for us in the in the sense. That pele's known hunger said you know he. He actually went hungry as a kid. Said once you once you've done that then you have a very very different relationship to money and one that people haven't done honda com really comprehend And i think there's probably a lot of truth in that but yeah has been said you know he. It'd be a rich man. I've got no idea how rich you sent me out. you know. We lucky enough to spend time in his current his old home in his accommodate sounds that he's he's the those kind of beverly hills mansions when you're thinking. Oh my god. There's something about that journey isn't a an. It's really moving as you say we call. I can't comprehend living in that sort of poverty. Maradonna film you see where they've come from and just the Adulation that they went through such a bizarre peculiar life but also just beginning with that level of poverty. You just can't get in the head of that can you. It's one of those things where you can't. You can't quite work out. You know for him to come where he came from to become. I'll give you the famous most famous man on the planet at that time during that that the film set is so crazy. But as you say with madonna madonna madonna and other people. It's a similar story. So maybe there's something behind the oldest because of that because of where they come from they know how to fight harder to get there but yeah you always hard to explain how how that can possibly happen to reach the level of fame. He did from from the starting point. He had right just to finish off. I just want to tips from one from each of you about a sports documentary that we might not have seen or listeners. Might not have thought of. I'm going to go with one I've i've often talked about. I'm not quite a sports documentary. But it's tenuous enough that i can include it as a sports documentary Film and i think bbc. I play could minding the gap which is about These kids who who kind of form the basis that friendships around skateboarding and while it's not really about skateboarding tool it's much more about sort of friendships and father's and family It's an unbelievably An emotional film. And i definitely recommend anyone to watch it. I guess i'm gonna go with well. I think the first fill the first documented vessel in the cinema. i think was when we were kings. Which is about them. Mohammed ali's rumble in the jungle in nineteen seventy four year. I guess showed us alre age. The idea that you can tell us sporting story in a really cinematic way on the big screen Recently i saw from so power which is about the music festival. That was that don king per on alongside the bumble in the jungle. And i hadn't seen how things about ten years old. I haven't seen that before. And i really recommend that you're wins if you enjoyed when we were kings and from that era not quite a sport from it's more about the music But yeah i thought it was really fantastic. And if you james brown fran music of everything. I would really really strongly recommend tastic survivor. Surely i'm gonna i'm gonna premiere. I was thinking ep out there now. Less square o'clock tonight. I was thinking more complicated. Banner is kobe on the beach right now. But for the for the big brazilian premier. Now it's a real shame and it's one of those things a we've actually Pitchy supply us with a huge box full of food and drink to to enjoy tonight. So it's the next best thing for sure. Yeah i've got one just got it just got delivered excellent and i hope that there's also some kind of added poignancy to the film at the moment when you watch it. This wasn't something we plan. I think we've become so used to watching games in this quite steroids environment at the moment. So hopefully some kind of overwhelming about seeing pele clay in front of the fans for the fans. Seeing the crowd react to him. I'm watching fans lose. Themselves emotionally during a game of football particularly in seventy john film under that mexican son i think it provides a hopefully an added level of poignancy reminds us that football and sport bring people together like nothing else really. Ain't that the truth. But listen ben day thanks very much for your time. Really appreciate it. Great film and recommend it to everyone. They'll it by the time this comes out. There's only coming out friday. Everyone they have seen it trevor. East martin campaign on. Twitter is is relentless. Thanks richard thanks for having us.

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332. Cmo el podcasting ha hecho que mi salud mejore

Al otro lado del micrófono

07:46 min | 6 months ago

332. Cmo el podcasting ha hecho que mi salud mejore

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005 - Make the Media Work for Us

Active Citizen Podcast

36:43 min | 2 years ago

005 - Make the Media Work for Us

"The. And with that signature, tune in the background means it's time for a nother putt cost the active citizen podcast, and we brought costing from studio in music looking at issues around active citizenship, every week, we try to get a new issue last week's one was public safety. We drill down into number of issues and coming out of that. The public safety when we've looked on social media, some of the negative responses and keyboard, warriors. We see that they are ways and means of engaging media. So what we thought we had do this week is look at active citizenship, as relates to the media how we do it. How we go about engaging, the media? If we have issues with our communities, so without further ado, bring in my partner in crime, you'll Hon and I have a second, we sort of formed ganglia, almost, we got a third partner in crime, and that is car in high Carin cuts. Now, you will recognize. Is a remember Koren's voice from the Hello museum book podcast. Weeded about ten together. And we looked at was a lot of issues that we do with community as well. So you hunted. I sort of bit the bullet and decided to might be a good idea to bring her into the mix. So be three of us. Before the Chevy talking about that loss to his signature law. I mean, we can put into buttoning just play it whenever we went to. You can have people saying that woman. So I have you found this past week, engaging, people after the public safety podcast. So I don't engage people as much as what you do and social media. I'd try and take the approach of if don't have anything constructive helpful useful to say then try and just not say, anything you just stock. Depends depends on the platform in the form. So I try to engage us when I have something constructive, and helpful, and useful to say if not, you know, trying to hold back, which I think, is an interesting inroad to, to this topic. What's is constructive. We're not constructive on social media platform. We see it all over the place regarding the social media. Keyboard warriors, and just have to have this say they know nothing about the subject of heard something from two years ago like the James walk. We discussed it in the good essay, how bad it is in how terrible the law enforcement. Police are again, lack of research people make fools of themselves because most time they just have to keep quiet. When you have a good response three good point. We need to stay at the beginning of this podcast, that Coren on this particular show, does not represent anyone else. But self Koren is an experienced, reputable journalists locally before anyone gets the wrong idea like we had a head with John Maytham on cable talk with. In hof. And I didn't actually say what I was saying. So. Right. That's another story. The absolutely current thank you so much for joining us again, it's really great heavy an in studio and to the future as well. Because I think we've got a lot, a lot of networking, that you've done in this to you can add to the mix, we have been very careful in what we've been saying around the media, we've encouraged people, I'm able to more, because a lot of FEC suspicious about the public safety issues that are going around but Coren I see engaging media. What's very important is when you gauge to be constructively engaged and get your Xtra, which we've just alluded to absolutely, there's no point, otherwise, but, you know what I do want to say this because I think the keyboard worry is, what is commendable is the fact that they have seen something that they want changed. So the way they go about it. Maybe not so good. But the fact is, they've something has. Uc them something has been activated in them, and they want to have that change. So I kind of acknowledged that even if they go about it the wrong way and often, very aggressive and yes, they're often, not one informed. But there's a willingness this, I kinda wanna work with the willingness of community engagement. But if you coming to us, in media with a story, you have to be certain that it's the truth, because everything that you say has a consequence and the thing is you're going to be the consequences much as the piston that you're speaking about the organization that you're speaking about you can't you can't make grandiose statements about something and not back them up because that could easily be used as a differentiation. The interesting fact that has come out on social media really think are read about. It was lost Jim repeatable who make lobola slanderous claims on social media, and they. On a position to be sued if you share that you become party to that. So in, in addition to that, the if it hasn't already been paused it certainly is on the cards, if one is on a what's up group? And one is an admin and somebody behaves away, which is any of the things you just mentioned illegal defamatory cetera, etc. As an Edmund of that group that Adleman can be held liable in the saints as well if they don't engage that person remove it deleted. And actually say what you've said is wrong. We're removing you. So they don't take any action. They become correct. If immediate action isn't taken and isn't viewed as such in is of a court, an Admiral group of Edmonds can be held, as, if not equally liable for the action of the person who said, whatever they said, which is quite an interesting point. It's not like it wasn't like that. If you years ago. Foreign words constructively engaging, that's not only with the actual problem. But there's another SP, and that would be people as with me. When I engage is to constructively engage with that keyboard, warrior and say, here the facts, this is what you've said is wrong. I think an apology is required to the people you just comments about. That's the and it's a good. It's a good line to take if case, I don't remember a what year it was in was pets last year, we this, I'm was the, the mosque that had been they'd been pig's blood put in it, and all that kind of stuff and really out of hand not there was a guy that was involve will he'd made a statement on social media and apologized, but the backlash from that was that other members of the community within saying publicly on different sites. Let's go over and kill him. And. Two. Wrongs maker right here. And if he's to be held liable for what he said and every, I don't condone hate speech of Niger. But it should be if you're going to put something on social media of any kind, make sure that you're comfortable with the fact that your mom's gonna read it dad's gonna read it kids are gonna read it. There was a woman who wrote a book, a lawyer, who pretty much done take any photographs done, do anything that you're not going to be willing to show your boss, or your parents. And if you add here to that, pretty much going to be safe. Yeah. I think it's a it's a really big issue that we having at the moment, because of the Papp's in using book area was use spoke, you hunt in the previous putt cost about how engaged museum book, people are when they all issues by the fourth response, you've usually got someone saying, I think we need to take this organizational speak to that person or do this. We're other areas this just a whole lot of rhetoric and poison that goes in, in the three, I saw really fantastic example of that this morning. It's a little bit different to the example, using, but excuse me, speaks to the same for to what we discussing the was a rubber spotted on a community members property, and this was the same of soy potential alleged rubber. He was Chris bossing that's put it that way. And he was spotted yesterday as well. When he came back alert went out on what's a group, we re fortunate to have certain security company. On watch groups and took about forty five minutes, our tops, this person was apprehended in some way, within the community based on just people basically adding to the comments spotting following, eventually was handed, and it was a fantastic example for me of active citizenship in action using social media. What's up group, you know, technology that wasn't around say ten twenty years ago? So I'm not saying that isn't like that and other communities, but it was a fantastic example to see people working together to with a really positive result. And my wife mentioned that to me earlier, did you see that one on the neighborhood watch group, and she showed me the pictures and because I mean I hadn't come through three I mean, I hadn't noticed it, but immediately a brought to attention the fact that people can on groups engage constructively. Maybe it's not subject is engaged in the media. So we need to do active citizen on the subject of engaging on, soc. Platforms being a member of a number of community groups with in Cape Town from C point comedy notebook and even San Francisco joined one day, just out of interest to see how, you know, how do they guy by things? Museum big remains for me that the top community of the ones I've been fortunate to witness in, in social media engagement, constructive engagement of, you know, like we discussing just people off for the most part pretty switched on radio. Awesome. We have our Tate's, we do. And he pulled who go out and they just go crazy. I mean I spoke to someone during the week and he had listened to about putt costs previous pot costs and you said, you know, it encouraged him not to be as emotional about the whole what he was doing. And just to be a bit more level headed. I thought, wow. That's, that's, that's an achievement from the costs where people actually listening, same. Well, let's go out and do what we do. I think that's the of this podcast, because another point I made was tone and edits you'd when you engage people on these. Forums for you need to have a good attitude and, and don't say, tone. Maybe it's capital. It is the equivalent, you know, don't go out and respond angrily with vitriol and really make the risk. The people feel uncomfortable because you're gonna have people going to you've got an issue. Yeah. Really valid issue. What happens is you get attacked not because if you issue but the way delivered it. Taking a different approach. You could have actually gone a foul in resolving the issue and bringing some kind of restoration to it instead of just getting people's backs up. How much is I don't know what the percentage is all? But what we say is often not nearly as important as how an I I'm very sensitive to turn. So if I am I can assume a number of people you don't wanna get the person's backup isn't that point. You're not gonna they're not going to work with you. You're hand, we speak about this often again before the show when someone is other littering all stopped in a disabled by new go up to them. How do you do it guys? Non-confrontation. Everything rises idiot. What are you doing this full? But you've gotta come. Bad your bench. You gotta go easy. I think. He's using the examples of from experiential point of view of people that have been putting cigarettes out and pop Lonzo littering will peeing in public ticketing and public or parking disabled bays or the list goes on. I can almost tell now from the project a person with this is a good idea or not based on my emotional state. I can almost beforehand. I feel like this is gonna go certain way wisdom. Calm collected in with it on a good day, too. Jimmy Gaza K. But if I myself am antagonistic it's, it's not going to go in a good way. All you need something to back it up. I just think it depends on one's approach. Sometimes it doesn't sometimes you can be as non-competition. What that person is just going to flip off. You know, it's, but it does. One of our safety wardens was speaking to me this morning said yesterday, where will you we could have really done with your help? I said, what was the issue? The Scott comes to the disabled base. He doesn't take a disabled base bay. He pox across both. So the safety wooden comes with coupling come and say, so this is a disabled by says, and come on and to sit, but it's for disabled, people, you not disabled, and he says, well, my engines run, you can move if they come he just had so much arrogance, one of the wardens radioed, another officer unfortunate us too far away when he came the guy disappeared, but it against we worked out was close to two and a half thousand rains with the fines that could have given him, just because he was urgent. You know, it's not like it's a small fine. They just couldn't kill this pointed out since of entitlement as well. Pick up a lot of that feeling entitled, it's quite a common one double cab highlight. Spunky. Maybe. Cab drivers out the back to something car saying earlier old baby was you about commenting on social media. I find it interesting to note that ten years ago might be a bit sooner it say twenty years ago, Sydney thirty forty fifty. The words that I know of the kinds of platforms with which we engage in a regular basis today as a species, we did not have this in our in our history. We had written media. We had video is quite new. Of the world. Die hard. Journalists. But the modern form of platform the wind gauge you are now. It's quite experimental and we were figuring it out. And there's been some interesting articles, written. I think even the pipe and he commented on it parallels between road rage and getting behind one's keyboard, and just engaging in a way not realizing that you are we wouldn't engage their way, if the person who was sitting in front of us, in it, these ACA terrier that allows are part of our selves to just engage. In a way that we would never ordinary do if the person was in front of us safe road rage yard behind the keyboard. And I think I'm happy time. We'll have all pasta. I don't know. But it's a new platform for, you know, the, the remarkable thing could be the dangerous thing about social media is that it's instant, I'm busy and you can't you can't you raise it. Deleted it still if someone takes a screen happened you're in trouble. And if someone is comes up on the screen capital is the case I need it. And I mean if we look at now the recent WhatsApp heck that's going out. You know that's another angle to it. One can innocently except a an attachment or phone call malicious code can be downloaded in this platform can be exploited. You'll camera hijacked your contacts audited. Crazy world is getting back to we just mentioned tone and Etta chewed and keyboard, warriors what often happens with engaging on social media is that bring that instant nature of it, something comes up. Like it's take, for example, that little boy line between the two supposed graves of his parents in, in the Middle East somewhere. There was actually a states photo. I found so many people they were outraged. And they made all these comments and immediately start doing that. You're responding to fake news. We need to learn self regulation at sounds nice and simple. But it's a basic of self control and before I do something. Yeah. You know in the in the policies, we had of community, it was community that would've followed that trace bossa, and it would be a neighbor phoning another neighbor. The act would have been the similar. It's just an it's, it's, you know, used through take said has its advantages and disadvantages and we have to remember that we're accountable everytime. We use it and use it and don't abuse it. Absolutely abuse. And it's not that it's Ube using the form. The media your people. That's right. Very, very quickly on a local one in in lakeside. We're engaging with a paraplegic guy and he brought up the same thing again. And I said, try understand with this person is sitting actually at the moment before you make these comments. And by the way, he's not a Russian. Troll. Like you're accusing him. He's a local museum. Big resident who's disabled he uses those disabled bays. And I said, cut him some slick, he might be going overboard on. It's because it's very, very real term, because you have no idea. My actual comment was. Why don't you sit on have Cup of coffee with them? And find out what the issues I have. Exactly and immediately everyone, but everyone is silent why they silent because they realize they made fools themselves and gain apologies, the policies come from the nice people who haven't said anything and the support. But again, that whole thing of the instant nature of it, you respond. You shouldn't have responded so quickly. Normally when you write a letter to the Itta you sit down and you rewrite it, and you think about it, maybe I should do that. Then you send it off. Instant social media is not like that at all. Okay. So the brains trust. We have here today. How should we, we've looked at some of the negatives and the problems you get into I'm really, really upset with the amount of litter blowing around at the beach? What do I do? Well, there's a me a camera cross the other day. And I'm just going wide, yet, you know, it was a picture of water overflying over Boston. It said, if the water's overflying in your boss room, because you've lived the tap, one, you don't grab them up. I you turn the tap of and then you got him up. So I think the my point is, is a new media. It's I guess, thought to initiate, a beach pinup and pick up the trash in those, those are awesome. And the help a lot. However, another aspect might be to look at our own peaching converted because I know many of us have hurdle this, and we already doing of it, but it's kind of turning the tap off and stopping our own carbon footprint in terms of how much plastic using boycotting restaurants that, that use plastic spoons, and it's difficult to manage and saying, are you aware of what the impact is? They might care there might not. But just to go back with one could also just be the change. Started beach cleanup isn't gonna radio. Join one instead of reinventing, the wheel would be a spoke in the wheel that an existing realism as I said before this is some of the things one, the classic one, I think you raised before as well. It was the organizers of the races cycling races, or the running races, where they allow all these plastic sachets. You can ever be keen up. But if you need to get to the tune the action, that was a really interesting example to me of active citizenship in, in play. They was a Facebook post of a bunch of green to Maryland sachets lying next to burden that the organizers put up, many of them were picked up and put in the that was a fighter as always difficult because it's time Reggie thing many were picked up, however many washed into the drains and there was seen on the beach in the ocean if you'd as later. So my point is that the organizers of an event like that covered themselves legally, because they all many bylaws laws around lettering. They covered themselves having putting the up which is part of the regulatory boxes that must be ticked if you haven't event like that. So they basically filling the boss and the problem comes in their pot is full and start spilling over like your allergy just us. Yeah. That and also it highlights me the, the really subtle that interesting difference of rights versus responsibilities. 'cause you have a right to hold an event like that. If you took certain boxes, which they did the responsible thing in my would've been to not use plastic sachets in the first place, but used by the grateful seaweed ones, for example, that I think the London marathon of just use us to that would have been Gooding's being responsible versus rather than sorry, ticking box and saying, we've covered the bait the basis it again highlights, you know, being responsible voices exercising, your rights, a difference. So there's some solutions. Koren is now these now these people want anything about it. How do we approach it? How do we start at do? We just go for a crazy Facebook campaign and start putting pictures and criticizing or is the another route tweaking potentially take well alike. That's been taken by Long Beach mall, and they have an environmental committee, and they've gotten together, there's a group of, I think six or eight of them, and they go from shop to shop in the mall, and they've gotten the restaurants with they chains. Or not to commit to plastic free. You know, no plastic straws and to think about into say to people bring your own cups, and we'll have coffee. So they're taking that on a group of people that are local residents, and they do in that at the mall knife. Everybody did that at the local mall, and in those demands get back to the produces of those things because own Asli, I mean, some of the places you go to fruit wrapped in plastic, and it's a single piece of fruit and you can seriously. It's a really good its own, wrapping guys. This is why we have multiple people in and not one person doesn't cost because what I'm picking up here from both of you. My question is how do we engage with the media? How do we take this to the media? But both of your saying is there's a whole bunch of steps. We should take before we jump onto social media and criticize like you say that those are Tom base Fotos, perhaps, they had a hundred people coming and clean up after that they went to the other side of the pipes were on the beach site. And I did it. A proper Tina we don't know that. So we've already jump to conclusion, but you're saying is let's get these things going engage with the people go to the organizers and say, you know, we concern before we start jumping onto Facebook writing is. It is. Facebook, all social media for any of those things rather to do it in a way that is an appeal to, to commonsense say to people. Look, this is what I'm planning to do who's with me. How do we get a committee together to do? This is your local council to write to let's get litters going and. Sitra. Sitra sitra. Yeah. You know, give them information that they actually start doing stuff that's nominee, Tom's just from a newspaper points of view, people phone us. And they're so irate about something and you say, that's great. Thanks for telling me have you spoken to the company or the people involved. Well, that would be your first point only. If they know you earn if they do absolutely nothing when you've appeal to them, then you come to us because then we can take it further but we are not the first port. And you don't have the time to get the person with the passion has, if you got passion. We something about it. If, if you get no, no joy, we can help. You can publicize your pill. We can report on it. We can hold people accountable, but honestly, you gotta do your but I think there's something to be said. I was just thinking while you were talking about the quality of our responses on social media. So what I mean by that is this. I just realized one of the reasons I was upset when I saw those green plastic sachets lying every way even though there was picked up and put in the Ben is because I'm aware that once those plastic sachets get dumped in a landfill over time. They will break down into. Micro-plastics which will eventually likely if not definitely either, find their way into our water table or back into the ocean with, it will be ingested by, for example, fish, possibly, it will then be ingested by us. So they find their way back into us. Now I assume incorrectly that other people would also know that but they don't. So quality response could have for example, being taking the time to actually say right guys. This is a bad idea because exquisite even they throw in this looking to break down into micro plastics jokers on us this looking to find their way into us. So even though they put into burn it isn't necessarily, it's tidies at mops the place, for example, that it's not only the tap. So, I think my point is, is something to be said and just realized as myself for the quality of responses taking the time to lucid. Eight people in a constructive way non confrontational. Someone might be reading it for the first time. How idea why this is a bad idea. And just a bunch of hippies going on about plastic. But if we articulate that, no way that's constructive. Wow. Somebody sending the lot bulb goes on. Okay. That's interesting. I never knew that who that person is in what connections. They have two possible solutions on the each small candle lights, the corner, and like your example of the people in the mall active citizenship to me amongst, many other things, is, you know, every small candle coming together. Making a big flame until it gains. Momentum education is hugely important, stole my. That's what I was going to say as I'm just hearing from both of you coming out here from your, your shopping center example, and your example again, we need to get out the do some research. Find out what is happening. What is the response from the company and go through this process? Like you said, when they phoned, the newspaper and then take all what you've gotten say. Well, I can cause a big stink with the organizers and make them feel, but get the backs up and say we are doing that if we do not based, and that's what we're gonna do. We can these massive cleanup teams. But what you're saying is if you don't get the people's backs up, and then you go to media, and you educate people Kevin wreck with environment is a good one. Have you seen his latest videos, you says this is what the political parties are leaving behind east cable ties cable tie pick it up, but he explains what they made of and explains the consequences of them going back into the, the ecological system with the b the dump we ever. And he's very passionate. And he's an activist. But he's telling people ABCD these are the reasons I haven't seen that post. But it's such a good example, describing of y'all of what educating I saw him do that. I looked at and I wanna make videos like that. He motivated me through his action to say, well now some of the things I'm passionate about. It's the videos, it had such an impact on me. And that is, I think 'cause people a visual to absolutely we official says, you produce visual secondary. Audio people can sit down and say, well, this is my plan of action. I can take and you can start a new organization is never too much. I think there's something to be said for our craving immediate gratification, especially with social media. Being now for instance we tap the hit Saint bang. It must happen now. And we feel good about ourselves that we've actually done. Funny, if we post something constructive and one person is changed that person's change they're not going to unchanged. You know, once a person has gone from ignorance to understanding certain Magics. I'm lucky they're going to go back to in this against you to once, you know, you know, now that person has changed they go. And wait another person up. I don't think changes affective via media rant on social media. I think it's slow consistent consistent being the key word here, I go back to that time when I mind direction us. Kevin again, we made a joke about my conversion on my born again experience when, when I realized from Kevin, Kevin Kevin's influence of one person already. We've. Punk cost into on radio, just by influencing me now influence another person. I mean, take take, for example, you journalist. So the might be three articles in a year in a newspaper above what you had done before. And that I think is as active citizens influence in the media, creating people in the media, creating those sort of conversion experiences, while I didn't realize rather than renting, and saying, I mean, he's just not an activist. I don't want to be near him feel embarrassed in those moments if we can create those moments and use social media for that you're really good example of that, for me at the moment, and apologies, the name if I pronounce her name wrong is a sixteen year old, I think it's gritter thune Aberg from Sweden who's going on the world stage. You know, to the United Nations influencing politicians. That's a big jumble of what we talking about. However, it needs to be said that what's the same standing on the shoulders of giants? She has come off of long long long line of people who consistently for decades been saying the same thing, the timing is such in my opinion that she just is right time right place. But the influence she is having on people, and people of, of influence. Politicians is just incredible worldwide. The yeah. The Muslim go from Pakistani shut who could have been so so bitter I was on by militants through the head, she's recovered. She got a Nobel prize, but she goes out there, and she influences, I think that's what peps the word we what we need to be with the media, we need to influence people. Not create drama. Is it amount of drama passionate comes as a byproduct when you influence. But if you're an inference, and you can get the message out and one that one on one on one like again, the starfish illustration if you can make a difference. Yes, the whole thing is inspirational maybe we getting the, the different results pud cost, but I'm really seen how the interaction discussion. We looking at things education influence all of these things. That's what the media should be used for not for rents. So I have a little example, which I think is left of center, but it's quite beautiful. This example came up on social media local actor David Mola decided, he wanted to do the artist's way wanted to do it with a group of people complete strangers. So he used social media to put out an invitation. The amount of people who responded was extraordinary because of one post on social media, there's a group of us now, who have committed to this, and it will go into the process, now it might not be something that is, will, you know, worldwide let but it is making changes in each of our lives every day every week, we're working on this together. Committed to this used to go commit to anything. I mean every Monday night, that's a huge commitment will know my week pretty much revolves around Monday night, because I wanna know what's happened. An I have been working at it. So these perfect example of exit ship in very soft quiet way, which changing people's lives, and he needn't have done that he needed to put the post on social media. But it's a good use of the platform. That's what I found. You don't need to be aggressive in your response to provide the information I mean that one with the, the keyboard worries about the James walk a made one post. So the hundred plus hours, I put in plus the six safety, wardens means nothing. They didn't even know about that. I didn't have to say you idiot. How can you make a post? I work my butt off. What are, what are, what are sometimes you come close to that in a nice way saying, hey guys, some in is actually happening with people say, nothing's been done about plastic say, I'd like you to meet Kibben, Rick, and then you see something. Being done. I think a good rule of them, and this may work for some people, but may have absolutely no berry. And others. Whatever is to just think, you know, if this person was sitting in front of me, would I say, what about to say with the same tone and use the same words for some people? Maybe he wouldn't fide others. Maybe we would step back up and go. Okay. Maybe I will change my tone, and even more subtle, or not a big difference between the keyboard warriors who I think are still we could possibly bring on long side and trolls, the good absolutely. That's worth mentioning. They don't think Glenda. Stan would a troll is manned standing of probably not the base person to comment on this. The lose de patrol is a person say with a set agenda person, set agenda, and in mind, Burs, a keyboard warriors, who will come on. It's spur of the moment, a rant emotive reaction. Action out looking for stuff they stalking they look for issues. I mean, they find something they, they coast to Sainteny jumping on the on the action a troll. In the more one response, the stronger they get the carry on. It's a very difficult phenomenon to deal with, because don't feed the trolls eases than done. But it's true a troll. The more one response. You know, if you saw the fire of oxygen goes out troll, just thrives on on and -solutely. I mean, what happens when the keyboard warrior accuses the Jinyan personal being a troll was the situation is quite, quite amusing, what happens then is just leave. But. Take, for example, just mentioned about the paraplegic and parking sich. Now, we all working doing something they said, stop the whole thing and stop raising the issue note has to come out of it. That was my final post. We've gotta realize this person's net situation. We need to do something. If you haven't done anything, don't make a coming out and speak to the shopping into whoever it might be if you not being an active citizen, maybe that's as we come to into the podcast. Maybe underlying thing is if you're not doing something constructively, as an active citizen. You don't actually have the right to get on rent and make comments you need to go on and say, well, this is what I'm doing about it. And this is working. Yeah. Rather than picking pay idiots because they have plastic in the, you know, we need to start getting somewhere. We see in all restaurants that will gain getting plastic straws, and I think that's community activism. It's done. That, that's repeat of big takeaway. For myself is to remind myself when I'm on social media is not behaving who I wouldn't. Otherwise, if I was in a room full of these people sitting next to me in if and everything constructive to say, probably just keep quite guys that's been a an extraordinary extraordinarily. Superb muscle pill. Though. But it'd be a great podcast. What I'm what I'm saying Koran I mean really good heavy new Beker again. And we had some really great cost last year. We are going to benefit your in heaviness someone. Thorns just give us off again. Editor for the future coming up in the near future. We have a number of issues that we want to handle, and I think it's going to be really exciting taking a look at how we act as active citizens how we live out active citizenship. We've got some Enviro. We're going to revisit the homeless situation with some solutions. We looking at creative activism, that's going to be an interesting when your hand was part of a big fish thing that went around the neighborhood. Life changing experience. Yes, the things we want to get involved. Joe Bosnians can be coming on hopefully next week talking about animals and what we can do and some of the activism around. So we got some interesting things coming up in the near future. Beautiful. Yeah. Looking forward to that one with you Hon. Thanks for joining this. Thanks for having me, and Carin. Thank you very much. That's it for this edition of the active citizen podcast. I'm Wayne Turner. I'll be back with the team same time same place next week. 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The Falcon & the Winter Soldier | Season Finale Review

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Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of nerd. Sube i am bolivar joint here today with iron monkey and teddy and we are back to review captain america and the winter soldier episode one but episode six the falcon and the soldier little title. Change there at the end so that yeah. That was nine thank you. I like that nice. I realized why they didn't name it. That in the first place kazoo just got too confusing. We'll you want to save the reveal but also like thirty s captain america the winter soldier the movie. And i feel like gouge scan fusing captain. America's subtitle i think would have been a more appropriate title for the show not the winter soldier but captain america. The flags measures. Who something cool you know. This is a captain. America story that ends with the appropriate individual taking up the mantle. Because it is. It is a captain. America story really complain that the title is falcon and the winter soldier. But we don't get a lot of that dynamic. They do focus on some other things and ideas here but getting number four now his knee. Yeah that's been confirmed right. After this episode they came out and said marcus spellman. Who was the show. Runner is is coming back for captain. America for relative run. Sam has from being run buddy guy in the background of cap getting his own movie. It's such an appropriate choice. Even a strong impression in that. I mean does this is a guy who's on the same wavelength cap. You know like they have a few conversations and cap. Trust him with his life he lets known this episode that he makes an impression ice bike. He must people know on the real deal serum which made me happy now. They didn't take it and i wanna take earlier but i'm happy to send all time. Yeah no he see. That's one of my issues we let you down to. I felt that he was nervous. In the beginning the wings. I guess they got the upgrade. From uganda seamless fucking clean clean fresh. But he's just so much better and this episode. Nobody's a match firm. He was not drawing the super soldiers as it should be his cap but did he just just get better because he has. He has the suit on. He's got the dual tech man. He's got to shield. He's got the I think doing the wings. I think overall. That's my major problem with. The show is set things happen. I don't even. I don't think that they were necessarily earned going back to the incredible hulk. He masters the power of you know not getting angry. But we didn't see that all the falcons just so much more skilled got in and he had his rocky moment. And i feel like the confidence you get for being captain. America has to walk different. You know it's the upgrades to good posture. You're headed by chips. Plus five all attributes. You know the suit was great. And that's how it opens right. It's they're trying to stop the flag smashers and he's zooms end with the wings. The suit wings shield. Yeah every time he took flight or had they had those shots of him. Like on the water where you could see the uniform and him kind of like in the air There were great shots. I last episode. I wanted more visually a delivered. I did find this episode like a little tiring to keep up with black lackluster. I just didn't really know what was going on too much like. There's so many different things going. And i just feel like it all just started often. I kind of. I didn't really think any of the action sequences were that great but for me this episode. What i liked about this episode was those moments Every time he saw sam with the the suit or they referred to him as captain america or the scenes after kind of the battle. I enjoyed more than i actually did the climax of the season which is a little disappointing. Not gonna lie yet. And i don't. The thing is seeing cap. Seeing sam as cap is just so appropriate. Like i said the personality of the character that it's like sharon carter confronts him and says you don't buy into that hero bullshit and then carly's upset with him in this episode saying you of all people but i just never got that impression from san if you understand what. I'm saying that there wasn't really an internal development getting to the point of taking up the mantle. It's there but it's i don't think it's done that. Well that's why. I feel like the whole my impression of this finale which i think it's a good finale but it's a it's unearned some of the moments that really hit me. I'm like they work because the characters so good and we spent time at them and they're good characters but for the story for this story i don't think it it was earned to big piggyback off. What you just said it makes sense because we established less episode that the season was rushed. And we didn't agree with the six episodes to really development into sam the kinda just rushed through everything personally for this season only really had to do was make the show audible make it a good show good action good story but the only thing it was just they just rushed it. And we'll getting that. Captain america four announcement. I instantly thought. Yeah this is inevitably going to be the better production. It always happens and it happens with marvel a lot to where the origin story. This is kind of like sam's origin story but then the sequels better captain america first vendor than through soldiers. You get to let the character. Just be the character. I think we're going to get the same thing with captain marvel where not everyone loved one but two more people are going to be looking forward to because maybe she becomes the superman of the mcu in that movie. I feel like this is the same thing that pool one. Deadpool two inevitably better. It's like the movie is going to be better. The base. Yeah yeah right and it feels like a foundation for the like. I said the inevitable better movie. There's this i just think there's so much more than they done like a lot. More with john walker as us asian an indicative done a lot more with him if they would had more time right like. I'm so excited to see where he goes next. But i don't know when we're going to see you and it's just you guys happy with his like redemption story. I was like i said to two episodes ago. I was loving where they were going with jon. And then they just made in the villain because he's a guy that has so much internal struggle that they can riff off of e his last seen when he walks out in the black and red suit and he starts chanting on back. He thinks that he's about to go do some good. Meanwhile this woman who knows what he's going to task with. But that's why. I did like the redemption and i think that moving forward. He'll be that type of character who operates in the grey areas of this universe and he still kind of naive because like i said he thinks he's back in the game but the game is always going to be this complex Because i appreciate that because it was it was a personal thing. And all of his mendez throughout personal so i guess for him on a personal level it was nice to see and he feels more like a hero in these moments for the audience. You know what's funny and you're rooting for him. Because it's now just one fight was funny as you're talking about naive it's like we just got off of him getting kicked out of the government pretty much for what they did to him. He's just going right back and doing the same exact thing it feels like. He's just doesn't care his loops. Ever going to be a constant government definitely because she felt suck to shield was not impress someone. Someone made a jokes and he went through a comic con thing cost boy. That really was gospel. He just still to this day does not look good in that suit. The red white and blue Much better in the black and red. Yeah i think those kind of weird. Though i mean we we. I think we've talked about john's character and how you know in the beginning when you're first introduced like he just wanted to do the right thing. And the pressures of captain america's own insecurity kind of drove him to where we saw him in previous episodes. So i don't think he was ever like a totally bad evil dude so i think it makes sense in that moment for him to kinda put down his personal vendetta and help save those people. It was weird though him coming out with the captain america suit brought. You just got like we just took that away from you. Larry david getting fired from coming in the next day. This is still my position rank No no then. Sam gets the i mean all three of them really helping out there to To save the tank full of people. That was a great moment for sam. So there you go i moment. Yeah he is Twenty-first-century cat where you can use the gadgets. And he uses them well and they're all experts soldiers. That's what i was thinking while watching this that the reason that they're just so capable of doing these things because they've trained you know. throws all cheesy. Though as like that's black falcons. Like no. I cried when cringe when he said the like. Oh well even the likes people complain like the speech. I love the speech. Because i agree with everything that he's saying but i feel like an i feel like an alternate universe. The themes of his speech played out throughout the series where we see these themes come up in different plotlines and characters but instead it felt like sanders had to take the camera and explained to the audience. This is what we're going for. And that's what. I wouldn't say that the speeches on earned because it is his cat moment. It's his cap speech and there's a lot of things that you can take away from it once again. When he's talking about the problem somebody made this point like marvel always introduces villain. Who's concerned about a real world problem. But their solution is just to kill people and then the heroes like damn you know. I agree with your fight but not the way you're doing it and the problem never gets resolved. So did sam just resolve the problem by the senators. You gotta stop this. Relocation plan is is it that simple more technically correlated. She's the one that she started all this. You know sam. He says early hers led to the right because she could've easily if died. This could just kept going and you know. Sam wouldn't have had his moment with the senators. I feel like it's just too easy of a fix. They talk about our lease this movement. That if she dies other people are going to pick it up but even sam hinted at the end that maybe another carly will appear. This isn't something that's i mean. The flag smashers the remaining super soldiers were murdered by zemo right. Yeah if feels all too quick for the flags measures. I think you can make the case that they're just underwhelming threats in the series. It was just suck. It just felt like they were. They were inserted into the show just to push the push narrative and did you hear reports that they abandon a story about a virus now. The apparently there was a story line. This is rumor that they banned in a storyline centering around virus because of the pandemic. I guess they didn't want to many parallels to the real world. Gotcha so i wonder if that hurt feels at times because when bucky stops her from stealing those vaccines everyone put it together vaccine super soldier serum but they're saying that that hints towards a plotline at that and maybe it makes sense thac facing issues the shell. I mean that could be a reason. Yeah yeah i did like that speech though. It was like his captain. America moment and i think that you know him coming into his own throughout the season and kind of different philosophies on what it is to be captain america from isaiah to an sam's different different perspectives. On it i think him kind of grappling with that. I think that was earned at the end. And like i said like the moments after all of that stuff his conversation with isaiah later on him in bucky kind of having that relationship going forward although buck looked at him like a proud parent every time he's at every time you saw him killing it as captain america. I think that overall for the season. I think i was just expecting them more in terms of just the action sequences and we've compared to the winter soldier. The movie in the past and just how flawless that movie is action wise. And i think that's what a lot of people were expecting with this. That kind of spy espionage type thriller and we never really got that. I found that even the fight scenes at the end. Were you know they were underwhelming. Yes it i mean. The the biggest the biggest like appeal for me was just sam and the suit and with the shield other than that. None of the fights really looked cool or clean or anything like that. So i don't think it was a bad series overall but definitely expect it a little bit more out of it. Yeah and i think it goes to the fact that the villains are so lame that when they're fighting them it's doesn't really feel except for episode for when carly kills amar. That's the only time if they ever felt like a real threat. And i've complained about it all series. We're going to just blow up some civilians because that makes us evil right. And that's gonna make john walker dislike us this. This is a better way to go about the issue here. That's the thing. The actions aren't aligning with the problems. That everything is that the problems that this world is having. that's why it just all feels very contrived to me. Yeah i isn't that saying your show or movie is only as good or your heroes are only as good as their villains. Yeah yeah now. That is a good point and the action. Like you guys said. She's just no memorable action moments. There's no conic. Remember when sam did this or remember when bucky flip the knife on steve. Remember when samuel jackson off all the police cars they didn't have one moment in a show. That's centered on that. It's the best with sharon. Carter an episode everybody crates and talk about a character who is just there to follow everybody around. I mean that's all she did all series right carly stole her stuff. I'm coming to get you over. You know does she know different. She's no different than like the big like really rich people. Aiding bore. I mean she's back in the us now and she she just said i have access to all any kind of technology you want so just give me a call and i'll give it to you. And she just she starting wars pretty much now. She's she's just become somebody who so jaded by the government that he's likely right but you barely see her throughout the series and she's got this old she's got all this power she strings and and the end she just kind of useless. She amounts to nothing for this story. Just getting betrayed constantly or trying to betray other people It's like a comic thing that becomes like not. Even i think that karol in the series wasn't good. That's my point. I don't care that she's powerbroker. That's cool but she doesn't do anything as about broker just threatening brokering some power. I guess yeah. She's moving things. I feel bad for the actress. Because i felt like she was just following everybody. In this finale. Yeah similar to lois. Lane in batman. V superman. where's the plot. Need me. i'm here. I'm not really a character. I'm just a plot device. Go to like horley and everything like that Did you guys like feel anything. When she died no no not at all because it was almost like she was like you knew she was gonna die. You die. yeah it's it's just all too easy for me. It's like yeah. She was an evil villain but now she inspired this change because she inspired. Sam it's just. I just don't like the way that the threads were connected and you know. I didn't feel sad for her at all. I don't think that she was a good character. She was in good villain for this show. I i agree. I think that. I mean that's probably one of the problems. I think that it's almost like they try to everything a story. But they just didn't develop a story. They just they just rushed through everything. Like the stories here. And we're just too afraid to really tackle the themes that they were going for. I think that at times there's just to surface level That's why Show wash mun the tackling very similar. Six hours you definitely a time. Yeah so no. But that's the thing they didn't use that time to the best of their ability. We'll spread out because he had john walker had zemo like spread out too many. I think potential antagonists than you don't really get the focus on your main one. Yeah i didn't think of that. They did try. They try weaving in like seven different points in the season right and then like making a movie. The movie that spans you know or or cut out some of these characters and focus on others and the movie you in the movie realm rather than television through the benefit of the series is getting the more characterization with salmon bulky which i think is still my favorite part of the series. I like these characters. So every time i see them interact. I'm going to have Some enjoyment level regardless of. If i thought the fight scenes or underwhelming or you know i wasn't really too into the villain. I thought the character moments this season this episode. We're very good. And i am very much looking forward to them. Seeing these guys again hopefully together. Because i do think they make a great team and we see bucky kind of confronts the man whose son he killed and two very emotional. Those last couple of scenes very emotional. I texted you guys. You guys cry. With isaiah i did. Oh yeah yeah the isaiah stuff did. I made me cry. That was definitely to me. The best part of the episode. But that's what happens when you build on a story. They they went into isaiah. And sam for like three four episodes in a row. a nazi emotional payoff. You have at the end. See i feel like if sam's store the isaiah stuff definitely hits home because recognizing the contributions that you won't be lost a history there. Yeah what what was done to. You won't be swept under the rug as well that we can look r truth in in the face and and yet right right and it was a very touching moment but i feel like if sam story was better like that moments even better because it just it doesn't feel like sam changed at all. Did he have to change. It was more like you're you're like okay. Needed extra. Push him giving back to shield fine but they don't really get into that and until that speech or until the scenes with isaiah bradley feels like they were almost shying away from it. that's why i feel surface level so you have this great emotional ending the character of isaiah bradley. They probably knew that they were gonna make captain america four. And you can't do it without the show to show you know because if we just saw sam with the shield and it's like you know i i would have liked to see him. You know before he got his costume. And after sam gave no shield. And that's all they really want to do is just give you this backstory to set up the movie like you said earlier. Yeah but for a character like a bradley. I mean you can never give back what they took from him on the. It's just the fact that you're seeing now peering see your story And to him. That was just a such a relief the way that he embraces sam after being sarcastic in throughout their interactions and just goes breaks down. Hugs him I broke down as well. Because you feel that that character may be the best character of the show and you get him sparingly in just hearing his stories in the performance to that you could just see the trauma performance so yeah that was all done so beautifully. I think oh bucky to him. Finally finally finding some peace there at the end was something that i was looking forward to see. Because he's been doing. And i guess therapy over for him. I guess figured it out no longer has to go back. Do you know what i love and crawler yelled at Bucky and he's like four something bigger than yourself. It's like oh. God it's like you know what i went through fourth down. Oh yeah fighting with bucko with red skull but I like them as a team and then at the end with the party together. Kind of having that moment of Just seem both very happy. And i mentioned i. I really look forward to see now relationship. Play out going forward. I hope it is something. Where every captain america bucket these the sidekick he's hanging out with help and san is nice knowing that send. That sam's not a psychic anymore and he's hand guy but it's the point you may wahab's and shaw. They were already kind of buddies. I was watching the game day. Like they're very much like it was just maytham just and they tried to drive the data for the show. The main conflict him giving away the shield. But i felt like that was just happening. Bucky was just like. I fucking hate you. Yeah that's that's my point. Is shying away from the themes. Get into sam's thinking. Why do you give away the field. Just don't do it. Gimme some explanations. Gimme some reasons. Gimme you'll maybe. If there was an earlier understanding between you know bucky and san and that relationship or do like the like like an earlier misunderstanding rather than just showing up like you said and being like i hate you for doing this like get into why the maybe bucky he can still not be accepting of it. And that's a flaw in buggies character that he so concerned about his own image and what. Steve thought of him that he didn't think about sam and he does apologize to sam for that. But really get into that get into the nitty gritty of what all this means for these individual character. Here's the thing he got six episodes that went wrong. I it's weird. It's doesn't make sense operates in a weird space where it should have either been a shorter movie or longer series where it's like either need eight to ten hours or just two and a half and finding a way to cut some characters and get your story out but yeah i dunno. I love the dynamic. But i've already loved the dynamic i didn't grow. I didn't feel like they like grew any closer. Maybe a bit closer. Like oh you're hot. Let's how i choose. All my friends is the attractiveness of their sister. So i don't have any. You're the exception. That like wow me. Nasty house this. Oh yeah but even a character like bedrock. I didn't expect much from him. But you would expect if they're going to bring in a big biter. Any is a big bad in the universe no memorable fights. He's in that first episode gets his ass kicked. He's not dead right. you know. He is dead he gets murdered. And this episode. Yeah right Like find a way to make this man kick. somebody's at all. I got gotta fight both captain. America's that is true. I was thinking about how And the first winter soldier he's like i thought you're more than a shield. And meanwhile he's fighting sam's got every gadget in the bookies inspector gadget. Here's the thing that kind of bothered me with. Continuity was you shoot carly in the stomach and you shoot sean carter somac- and sharon lifts crawley dies placement. I mean pump one in his heart. Don't always put them both in the gut and one of them one ever gets shot him and you brought one to the immunes and she's still got shot in the stomach and do sherlock episode. I always think about how bullshit that is. He likes thinks of every like the exact way he needs to fall to make sure that the bullet doesn't like impact it's like he goes to his mind palace and he makes it all out so stupid. What was it like a jimmy. Neutron goes to his ear. And then it's like you see all right. If that was me i would just be like just tilting. Training got to lead the blood. It's a new blood. The blood cells pumping no pressure on. Don't touch let the air take care of this oxidation. I always think of that because when like in nineteen seventeen when the kid gets shot pretty much the same thing and you just slowly watching die. Yeah yeah sure like sat there for like two hours. He was there Helps being sherlock Zemo quick. I thought what condo took zemo the door door. Well the raft is kind of just the internet risen for super villains. That's not where he was. That's where vendors and civil war right now okay. So that wasn't where he was the first time. No no just the middle of the. That's what i was saying that you would think that that'd be the place you bring up initially got asking to be a shitty place joy the avengers and they sent him to reich with like this guy hawkeye but guys all right. I love that butler cutting it lasts lick. He's even ruthless. I definitely don't think this is the last. We've seen zemo right much of an impact. Yeah he was such a pleasure to watch just seeing them right there. I was like what's going. Yeah that's a perfect example of like zemo. People didn't love him in civil war but he got more personality in this show. And he's like a character carly's not you know he's an anti hero. He's a hero in his own story. He believes that he's fighting for the right thing. Like eczema were to die. Be a mass carly died of just. Yeah who cares you just look like thanos. I mean obviously a completely different scale but in one movie you kind of got all. He wanted to do and kind of the rationale behind it and major. I think and made you like understand. Maybe why he wants to do this. or how. That idea can manifest in one to create a monster with her. I think we never really got that deep delve into her ideals. And you're right. It was very surface level. I think it could have benefited more from. Maybe her being a little ruthless threaten sam's family but don't two seconds later like oh. I wouldn't do that. I'm not that type of person. She shown the ability to go dark and she even scares her friends at the end of this up in the beginning of this episode. Where they're hesitant to say the macho with her. You know you can understand. Maybe not sympathize but you can develop your own. Rationale is of. You're without the character. Always reminding you that they're not. Oh i'm not totally evil. Yeah i also wish we would have seen the problem with the issues. What's really going down here. Never got a look more background than forefront. Yeah you see like you know the relationships you had with the woman. Who dies of tb. You know normal world. That wouldn't that wouldn't happen so clearly. Things are so bad where you can't even get fucking basic medication to me. But you don't know the woman and she's just on a hospital bed and then she dies. Yeah what they said. There were like refugee camps. Yeah that's the whole thing. It's a relocation issue that people being moved out because the new people. The people that got back neva getting their house. It's a fucking message. Me make sense mess like they talk about the world like it. It's like that's why i'm deaf in a way. I want to defend sam speech because it's like a speech that the world needed but we don't see why the world needs that we don't see why carly is so obsessed with this fight you know we. There's not always all. They were afraid to point fingers at why you know like creating some parallels of y you know the world can be so messed up time now i was gonna say you only the only area we really see is was her refugee camp right you know in infinity war thanos he just does the one in the conversation with dr sri shows what happened to his planet. It's like okay. I can get that. Even you even go back to his first line when he's like i know what it's like to lose there you go. That's all that's all you need to know with anos. You understand why it's been doing this right. Yeah he's been through. You know he thought he was right is planning wiped out. And you're like oh shit. That sucks but that's only just like a moment dude. I feel like there wasn't even that for the slag smashers just lame. Now that i'm thinking like i said it's like a little while ago. I said uh. This universe needs to know what happened during the five years. And this maybe this could have been the episodes of do it with the flex measures and how they came to power right. There should have been episode dedicated to carly. This should have been flashbacks of her hers. A kid or some shit like that. Because i think every show does really have that right. You know one show so much better knowing knowing why wanted is did what she did. Solidified the show. It's a show you know you got into wanda's head and you found that washington oldest and the because her friend talks about that. He didn't believe that there could be a new captain america until he met her. That's why i wanted the show to almost just be called captain america. So it's like all the the possible. Anyone can do of captain america right right now. You can you know. Put that mantle onto someone if you believe that they're right. They're fighting for the right thing. how you know. It's all about perspective. But we don't get enough of her perspective. We truly don't think she's a good actress like like. I said the episode four almost feels like like an anomaly. Like all the sudden the characters are okay. Okay what are we doing here with the flags measures and their confrontation walker. All of that coming to head but overall i think they were just kinda lane. That's a good point. I think flashback episode would have done wonders for the character and the story. Just show like how they the inception of what happened. Or you know. I think we. We've gotten that a couple of times now during the snap like immediately after more comedic and spider man but more serious and wanda vision right so you can kind of go that route where you can spend couple year. However time has passed between the beginning of the series one everybody returns kind of showing that displacement. Maybe she got ripped away from her real family or 'cause one of her friends or family members died or something like that and it's it's the early days he would think of these issues we don't know when falcon and the winter soldier takes place. Can maybe a few months but for these problems to arise so quickly where political movements are forming. Where it's it's gotten that dire where people feel like they need to become violent and Like politically motivated violence. How the fuck do you get from tony. Stark saving the world to that in a matter of a few months gives us that story. That's that's a story. We always talk about it that they they've made sure that noses snap remains impactful even after his death even after those movies. But if if if that's going to be such a big crux of your show you gotta give us more. At least i feel i want to. I'm i'm looking up when if there is a time that they said maybe we've missed overt when this show takes place. Maybe yeah but you can't imagine that it's too long. Right is at the end when falcon falcon will. When cavs giving a speech senator but it in is like so what happens. You know five years one by and now everyone gets snapback. So it's gotta be within a few months. Yeah yeah yeah. I think the the the flex mashes are relatively new to. I think it's a good show overall and i. I hate to feel like we're dumping on. Because i thought that i had a good time watching the finale on announce floors. You know you know there was a lot knows a good show but And i think that something that really could have helped the show. If you gonna keep your story you know. Surface level than the action really has to be great So it's Falcon and the winter. Soldier takes place at after vendors. Game and the events of wanda vision wanna created the heck's just weeks after she returned from being snapped falcon and the winter soldier is set about six months after the avengers endgame. Okay so in six months this is the world this is the world still consoles quick. Had to get everything like that right but it. But that's the thing if even if it is quick show he also industry didn't destroy the planet either. Just wipe out the people to and i wasn't like apocalyptic building still there and every establishments you magin. How many things were destroyed malfunction because people were like astro like fury so chocolate plants. Seriously things are being maintained. Golf courses just funding the bunk to your theory. That's eight thirty seconds matter next. Is there anything else that were that. Were really missing. What do you think with john walker. We're where does he pop up next if you had to guess. He thinks he's a supporting character. In captain america for is the thing i want to read into. Us agent but almost spoil anything. because well. i guess. I'll just read into it because we don't know what's gonna happen with them. We all feel being capped for for just got his own spin off so well he seems to really be listening to sam and maybe going to be a team. I think that you know. I think that it's very possible. In the future that they end up teaming up. And i fucked that abor bucky and john had a little back and forth when he quotes lincoln like lincoln. So great man craig quote. Not when you say what do you think. He's a big enough character to carry a series. Us agent now. Oh yeah now. The numbers say he's been the most popular character in the shell seriously. Yeah now he's he's gotten the most wicky searches most google searches. People love this people. They love him or hate him. That's good for characters popularity but would it be like a joint thing. I think you can give him Maybe hamid sharon. Maybe no i mean. I ms own world of him i mean. He's he's a super soldier now. So do some cool stuff with them and world gets a little bit. I'm i'm pretty sure it's it's more gr- grayer than this is there. Is there a suicide squad type and mc you gotta be right. yeah. I think there's i think that's super. Yeah yeah more anti heroes and that's your movie. Are they're black. Ops superhero missions. I think you can green lit that. But do you think he comes back and kaffir the has to. I mean that's kind of his. That's his world. Yeah so samuel. Couldn't see him like hopping up like you know hawkeye. Yeah he i think there are other street level shows he could appear in but Yeah now that's spf. Can be like thor love and thunder. I think why russell be very good at five. Us agent somehow found himself in a space. I love this universe. Choice the guardian. Yeah i love thinking about that. Shit from the show up in captain america movie. Maybe but i think if you really want to go more into this character. I think a series is probably the best route. I think that'd be really fun. I like to see that. So there is a suicide squad type in the mall. there called the thunderbolts. Okay but i don doesn't say who's an but there is a suicide type school than the cats isn't there. Is this show on netflix. Right now a movie is worst. Movie ever zero chance i watch. I wanna walk. I saw the previews. I need to because my letterboxes. Just all forced star movies so i need to watch more shitty movies. That'd be the first one while. I watch mortal kombat. Nice one and a half stars up on there. How's the action in. That movie wasn't good. The first ten minutes actually is a great action scene and then all the action after that is really stupid and equal fatalities no especially with like watching invincible. Like talking about a show that he used violence. All right catherine america and the winter soldier. We can actually say that now. I wonder if they'll change the official title. I think it'd be too confusing. If you very confused back or they call it still falcon. Yeah yeah. There's no doubt that they're gonna do a season to it. Kind of feels like a wanda vision. Type scituate levi into the movie right. Yeah we're wanders. Either you know she's going to be a doctor strange and sam's getting his own movie which is so cool. I mean to see it's just feels like the new captain america. You know like it. It is hard. Stepping in the shoes of chris evans after he became such an icon. It would be tough for any actor. That's what the movies came from. Man you know. He built himself in the movies. Right right. yeah that's the thing in this time. Yeah this is just the push and not that to lead the avengers man. Those fucking rev william blue wings so having vendors what's going on that might be Worthy event the end of cap for the cap movies always kind of include the vendors like civil wars in the vendors movie basically so maybe they involve that you know cap getting the team together recruiting heard you could talk to fish neymar. You're right if you're to work for a while But yeah overall series that had its ups and downs to say the least. Yeah i think the show that is job man. It was watchable. How good action. Good story just little rushed. I like to watch it again though. I only watch episode again just to see sam. I do like that suit. Man like good ass popsicle red white and blue by the way those colors robin is making me vibrant. That was stateful teddy's house growing up the red white and blue ones now. The surfer sugar free popsicles are. Oh man sugar-free wack. Well would you look at that. it's finally over. Hey guys well oliver here for one final sendoff now before a big you guys to like in share this video. I'd like to thank our very special patriarch pleasures. We are very proud of the community. We've been able to build a shirt and it would not have been possible without our patriot. Supporters you guys are the true. Mvp's channel everything. I've said we'll keep the fruitful. You keep the lights on. There aren't enough words to thank you guys but we'll do it anyway. Thank you and we have a few videos. 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Special Guest Glenn Part A: Anime, Video Games, Cons, Trip to Japan-APP018

The Anime Pad Podcast

1:43:08 hr | 2 years ago

Special Guest Glenn Part A: Anime, Video Games, Cons, Trip to Japan-APP018

"A everybody's your boy here ride again, for another great episode of anime pad podcast. How you guys doing? I missed you this. Another day another day, I got a special guess it's gonna be exciting. It's gonna be fun. We ain't gonna talk too much anime episodes, anything like that today because we gotta guest guest got some great knowledge and experience from the hometown. It's the first time I've ever met him. But I've heard I've heard about him to Naza to Naasi. I've heard about him from everybody. I know. And this first time I'm meeting, and we got him in studio, so we don't we don't get down to it. It's none of special guest episode. I'm here with Glenn. The man. And we will get right into man. Like I said, I've been hearing about your name people. I hate you seem student Facebook before. And I'm like, no man. I've never seen this dude. Like people know me from being no me to be the enemy guy, and Levin, Colorado, Levin supercenter, and all that. And I'm like, man, you don't notice do you gotta Comecon all this. You don't he goes to all the stuff and I'm like I never seen to do period. I ain't even seen them on Facebook. You know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes you just run across people on Facebook, but none of that. So I was like, and then I start bringing people that I knew were like you sure, you gotta notice do. And then they're like you're going to see to eat to right. I'm like he's SE two to two. And I'm like, I'm like, do I don't know man. So just like how we been missing each other, I guess, from the same region in the same love of anime, comics all of it. It just. Hey, we are. Yeah. I don't know. Like it was it's weird. I just coming across people by guts was telling you earlier by when out go out our like a lot of enemy t shirts now. Hello, go beyond Oprah shirt on and have all might hit. So like somebody that's a famous do. Where'd you get the head? It didn't by Admiral Instagram in s how needed a lot of people just wear shirts out due to lead, people is just a word because I like it a necessary like 'cause the fake so. Yeah. When I go out to our worried in clubs like I'll go to. I don't know Uniqlo with all my gear EV surprised that people do. But we ultra you in the club. We tomorrow nightclub possibly VIP. Let's, let's say you VIP and you in all my year. Are you serious? I'm not playing like I have I know I know I know but, but you, you rapid rapid in the club, you'd be surprised so many people inside and just start talking about it. And then we just become co see this is my problem with it. I try to be cool. I hate nerves. I hate nurse, just so yeah, no out there. I hate nerds. But I guess people consider me in our right? But it's really I just hate people that's really over in those in it. I can't see myself doing that. Yeah, it was weird for me at first because I now more acceptable. Because like I'm thirty five so like that of know being nerd. It wasn't. So like, now, it's like pop culture, lay people are on. Okay. Okay. So so how was the earliest you start doing? What were insurance to clubs or just like just like, really embracing it went into club just filling natural in that I would say, probably about two thousand four because, like a lot of my friends went to also which is a local college here and what I will go to like the college parties with them. You know, a lot of people college students had on shirts. In what I would go to regular clubs, you know, or regular Boras that are not like college students. Just go in there with stuff on. Not Gary in reaction was different backdated was coming. But, like, now, it's like this talk. What do you know what can you tell me like people ask my info in there were people in bugs, me and say, hey, wasn't good show to watch Loeser show for my kids was to show for me by what's new people? Ask me these days. So the ACA feel you on that tip on a like people trying to stop you like a few like I just started getting into win like. Anime stuff. Right. Like usually, I've had comic stuff. But now I started wearing enemy stuff like the more I've been going to cons and stuff. And so, like now people and then I'm now doing a podcast and doing a blog and all that. So now, people like trying to stop me talk about me. I'm like now. I can't I can't stop. I can't stop and talk to you about this. But you but you could check the podcast you can message me all that stuff. So I feel you on that part. And I guess because like enemies become so mainstream now and become so pop coach. Like you saying that is totally acceptable. Like if you ask me about a convention will talk your ear off because I want to make people go to these conventions because they're a great experience. So he would have kids like I tell people, right? Hey, if you have cage, check out C to, to say or blurt Kahn, or I don't say, dragon con but 'cause that's is carefully during the day. But at night is like the kids debate, right? I tell people east kind has its own character getting off track. But yes, love going conventions. I I've been Momo con see to, to drag con New York Comecon. Blurt guy. Ran Iraq and I'm trying to get a friend, a mutual, Amedure friend. You, I guess you don't know. Maytham o'hagan, eight is some people know him. He's a mutual fan of people, we know and he's in fashion, he's, he's doing clothing line stuff like that and apparel. And I've tried to get him to do 'cause I would love to wear some anime stuff to the club. But I needed to be like I need a button up with, like a bunch of anime characters on it. But like a nice nice button like dress shirt, but you know that would be dope. Like there's a lot of and like, but my main if you made that bro, our, I'll just buy from, Hugh, that's it like I would have to go. Find a unique unique load to go like I go all New York to get to one of them or something like that. Like our had to ship it, none of that Japan spe pay any, Spence prices, you know, but that's just some on the back burner some on the back. I I would love to get into that venture. Make that happen with them let you know. Yeah, you'll get there. But I will say that Japan like anything over fifty dollars tax free honal Hong. Yes. So if you go to Japan and you have a passport and they look at your passport e-verify you don't live in Japan. You've you'll have to pay texoma anything over fifty dollars Horo may hold on. What not not like anything anything like most stores? I when I would tell you need low in Japan, I didn't have to pay tax because spent over fifty dollars or when other Tron stores or against. Aki However, I didn't have to pay tax has been more to fifty dollars which was easy to do so, so you so you tell me whenever the Lord blesses me go to Japan I can go and rack of all the camaraderie stuff and not pay taxes on it. If you tell me right on my good it's over fifty dollars what am I doing my life? Enter money for more, what am I doing? Like a took Dow's dollars cash over there just like up because they say, bring cash when I go to currency exchange. I took it douses I got eleven hundred money. So for every hundred team so it's a nice little. It helps out mount had you had you Lynn less dolphin beginning. We we've been got way too deep into it. Let's start off with. How did you get into anime like to transition anything like that? Like let's take us back. Take us back. Okay. So my dad was in the service my day, you know, there was a geek in Eddie Newman realize that until later on in life. But. Just flat out, just just as a gate, he was into this stuff. I thought I liked cartoons. But he was like, hey, son, just grow like, okay let's say what's going on here that he put me on guy her? And he would always bought me, video games, just biding woods. It took me to the comic bookstore Wednesday in. So he, he was he was really into every year every Wednesday. He was a big part of marriage. He was also shot out game. Like I remember when I was a kid before was like really play video games that will sit there, watch my dad play the Tari like I said, on thirty five how shutout taking the day day he started. I start the store too early. Lot of K relate to that one, bro. Wow. I at least had uncle there. Had the Conan comics the uncensored ones, I at least had that, but I shouldn't have had those, but you had a dad take you to the comic shop playing games. Which you all my goodness comic shop playing. That's unheard of ordering events wrestling every us. Oh, you can have choice but to be a nerd. I didn't even know. I didn't even know was early to be a while to realize there was bird for what was really hit deci all duties things. So let's say how was high school as far as being? A nerd or as, as we're call now, blurred 's is different because I even talking about earlier thirty five about the same. Okay. Yes. So when I grow up, I went to school cover. It was predominantly black. It was kind of a little bit. So. I was cool like I was a great that was a hybrid like he wanted. Nurse this, I could talk to you about that all day, but he wouldn't talk about rap music, like no limit or cash money, things like that. I was pretty much. I'm Jack of all trades like everything relatable. So, yes, kinda what kept me, like in the clear because there were that demand said the clearly right there were a couple of kids that were like super like nerdy, like screech in urkel tight. I kinda saw they retreated but out like let me pull it back just a little bit. You know. You know, I really pulling it back it was more like if I could sit down around it out yucky around it. Like, if I don't talk to you, I can kinda tell like what kind of you can put me in front of anybody. We're gonna find something to talk about. So 'cause I'm pretty much everything. Right. Not even still just gains politics, like just like general travelling, I'm into everything. So I could talk anybody about anything around inert around. That's what you got to be at here nine days, so you don't get a foot stuffed in there. Today. Hey, that was. Then you had I just remember you had that because I was hybrid because I was a sports guy. My I was a huge sports guy, I played basketball and people knew me for playing basketball like, not, not professionally anything like that. We'll play basketball and gym and all that stuff. Even knew me for that. And I knew my stats, I knew my Jordan's my Kobe's I knew all the gas, I had the cards, you know what I'm saying, but you might catch me playing Pokemon on the bus broke, you know what I'm saying? Right. That's, that's the level we talking. So I was like, like you say, I was kind of a hybrid. I talk to anybody. I jamming anybody. Oh poems. If you remember politics or nap and they'll cast, we slammers on nervous pox yet. I was into those about the show until fourth grade people like why do you have those what are you doing to win? It school is a what, what is those big? Yeah. Like I say where I went, you know, people aren't really. Oh, yeah. But it was cool. But it was a lot of people weren't Bill to like, people are always interested in me. Like what I like doing because I got posted, everything or social media, not everything. But we have so many back then always wondered like this alternate universe. Like, if I had social media in high school. How would you be cool? Yeah, you probably the coolest Dudayev probably people because I was spoiled like I had every Libro like I had drinkers taking this dude every game, he got pay per view every weekend man, I had all the game systems that had all the games by debut when I have moved over to my new neighborhood. He he was able to his. Right. My parents just by this formula, he would get allowance. He despite all the games. He was only if he didn't if he had a game that we didn't have destroy gains all the time. Because we had we had to do a little with this game play this game. So that's kinda how we did it. So I'll third. It didn't later on when I started at my new school because when hitch may transition from my own neighborhood to my new one finished by your older schooled in the guy up the street who I met on the bus, he was entered the nurse stuff to so with the play everything because we headed down, like have your parents by his appearance body. My parents bought media, so we everything we traded and we're walking this from each other, so win again to anime. And what was if you can remember like the first oath school classic animated that you were looking at. Well, our say interest, grow Mundi, one of the first because he rented that from a blockbuster, it's humor. Those day at the blockbusters. Easter rent a lot of enemies from there, but interest was the one that I remember but as far as. Seventeen section. But is is, is, is forest just watch enemy on my own man. I can't remember but I do remember him. Taro like used to is taro light to NAMI black. We used to watch him horrible for school. Like when actually funny. No. For where we are right now when I went here. Me and my boy wise him Caro come up here in talk about what we saw before became school, going corner noted, we're talking about him thorough, it, we knew we'll be together. It was better. Like the words. So have Tauro poke mine Arab but weren't at home from school to catch Pokemon Power Rangers and stuff like this, I will say Pokemon, I being him tomorrow because I discover how taro like after high school. So you also I end is far as just, like, straight up watching enemy own strata watching anime, a mainstream Americanize. Well, I will say to NAMI was the jump on point for me because I was able to watch Allah store. Do out lost. Big old was my jail by. I need to buy that box it 'cause rice stuff has it. You got everything. So I'm I'm gonna go near about right? Because I need big data watch, because it's not on fundamental streaming, as crunchy rose homing is nowhere. So I have to at least one of has that lost eight has a lot of stuff and I have Hulu to believe it or not who move as a ton of enemy. That's what I hear man in like I can't, I can't keep getting subscriptions. I can't I can't do it agai Amazon prime and that's got a lotta like film works, though. And I got crunchy roll. So I'm like, that's my limit, bro. That's my limit. Okay. So, and I got Netflix, too, and I'm paying, I, I'm, I'm paying for the four K. So I'm paying top dollar for what's it now because I think seventeen. L store, Indiana. Of course of we you say in the Asha, only because it was like given to us in a classic period that we didn't know in Yasser was, or in Yasser, because it was great to you a little bit of both, like I didn't know what it was, like, I'm watching this dope. I like it. Gotcha. So it was always great like from watching. I didn't have anybody to talk to about enemy for real. So nobody gets a watch this had to discover stuff on my own, so anything that came to nominee. I was pretty much down for it was funny because Xinchang did come onto nominee at one point. In the late night swim. It came on though swimming. Is it came on a late? Really? And that's how discovered it L this fund. And it makes him look stupid. I don't wanna watch this, but then one day, I didn't feel I change in channel out to start listening to this is hilarious. So I feel like will for me, because like you skipping some years, bro. Like of, like, good anime programming that the United States kinda had like the sci-fi days. G four would like the X me. Ironman, more will animates okay? I didn't know you recounting those two years, though. Just I mean just in general like. The whole spectrum, you know, please see I'm the scattering our remember. It's like it's kind of spotty like armor, something's out forget, but for the most part ADA Kimmel to NAMI, I was four. I did watch the softball blog a little bit in Seattle. I did not NTV head of AM flux count. Yes. Yes. Goodness, the good old days. But my favorite though your favorite anime favorite of all time. But one, okay, 'cause I have a top five, but was the top I ever give it to ghost shale. Are you doing these order now to order, if I do this to be like a few hours? Okay. Good. So I like a ghost in the shell Brockie to grappler this season. But the more previous hunter haw net flicks or not. You now. I'm with you. Now I have complaints about the. Which you now, bro. Oh my goodness lay because this is I had to buy bocci without knowing what it was. I went to best buy, what enemy should I buy your new Renault previous, no nothing else? This looks dope. Unbinding man. So it was a huge risk without barking main, you paid off. You know, you don't know how upset I get when people are in these groups and people like chatting about this net flicks bocci how great it is. And I'm like, you don't know where Baki is really own, like none of that is really Baki like you. I know you didn't watch the classic animated. We talking about now. I didn't know there was one before that one. Yeah. I just found out about their a few months ago. So now I have to finance, like crazy Oro. Goes to the show boggy you have to have to dragon ball near because that was my gateway I was my gateway into like these loans almost everybody's gateway. No, not like it. But I got a case closed of Coney, Amanda though, brew. So that's four bright now academia, look, is what you're near because that is one of the few NA's to make me terro watching it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I let's go case closers, okay for people that don't know, case close. It's a classic anime like classic like they've got would twenty five seasons. Some crazy up there with dragon. They up there with dragon ball Zito. I mean drag drag ballsy the whole franchise. They're up there with that, then they've got movies. They've got live actions. Here here's the funny part. Like I downplay case close, but I've watched a live action movies that way. Many order is I've never seen any seen one of them. I'm pretty sure there's more than that. I saw like a snippet of one or YouTube. Never his we'll get into that later. But. Oh man. Oh, hold on. Let's let's finish. Let's finish. So number five was my here academia and you crying crying. Turn up this crying like like you roll one tier. Okay. Always seem bro Cup all Matt a couple saying. The saints were thick. It was season three right after auditors get kid out the they took him back to health to the appearance homes. It all my shot of Madrid. House issue was telling his story day he was like young of majoria. The he rented his helped me all might he rented a room young. I am here is all my pajamas. I was like, bro that net part. Yeah. Rails joint then. Watching the movie theater. Oh hero. They did the double Detroit goodness. Oh might have what like. Like. Would you go see it, it right? He's. Look, it was the only day I could go because Monday through Friday, so I can only go see it on Saturday. Hold on Saturday. Yeah. It was it was a couple of nights. It was out because I saw after they extended it. Yeah. Goodness. Man. I'm like, I'm like over saying moved did at the same time come on man, but man to heroes, I did tear up, but I was like. I could I was high ugly to go to the gym. I was really over. Thousand mixer enemies, I was going to be plus ultra if real Oeser for like a weekend. Hey, no joke. That one, I was like, okay this is cool. This is code is co. Hold on. They take this to the next level. I, I can't do bro. And have you seen the, the all might rising the little snippet? Now, yet, Anna anime or manga enemy. No, we mean so the next movie is coming out. It was hell. All my became you know, on my days before he went to America. Yes. So it's like a two minute fifty two. So they have the I can't think of her name, but your lady. And it was great Torino like superhero, not super yoga like younger than what they show him rank because he's likes he was like slender and tall little bit. So, yeah. When we get done with this. If you have a sane it, like haven't you seen it was you to that? Here you go. It popped up on. Enemy enemy news. A thing of what I think it will probably one of those sites show. The jury will do it. Integral taken down there. No, if you type it in your final into he go, but here too, but as far as the top five, that's, like, 'cause might not be my true top-five, because I really need with Adirondack with it. That's, that's a good top five. That's a classic top five at that except for my hero, which is newer is still my heroes, getting into that classic round. I think it's gonna because just the I get dragon ball outs from it because you get to watch everybody. Here's here's why. Because you get to watch people grow. Yeah. So you got to go coup, grown advocating, you got to go. I have a wife and kids, you get to watch him grow out. You said outgrew. Gohain grow what, what is powered in crow? Okay. Yeah. No, I know. So that's one thing like about Baki Gregory. Like the original not unreasonable. The middle one you got the same as young. He wants to came, you know, he got figuring and better. So it was cold to seeing them transition said somebody being the same age same the whole time to watch. The see doom do biking training in the woods, fighting bears. Eight biting bears and other animals to get stronger. That's the real Baki like straight martial-arts, NO guns, no weapons. This was like despite splaine it. They were explaining everything they were going to do to you for like an episode. It was it was so much. I could take all your senses away with I'm like do. Just do it just do it. That's it was like to lie half. The episode is them talking about what I'm gonna do to you. And then you get like a quick minute of them doing it in the fight over. I'm like, come on. What is this that I'm watching it was weird? Like I had to watch it for the culture. I just had to do it. I watched I watched that season one year. Also, like how they split the seasons of either. I did not like that. I mean that's like accommodate now because attack on titan did it so season on seeing, they continually what's already there on season. Three part two. Right. So part. Kind of went influences of summer. Still some this give me the whole thing man. That, that by I don't I don't care people out there fans subscribers. I don't care that Balki on Netflix trash just putting that out there care how you feel about it. Tweet me at me. Whatever comment adult care. Doing good with enemy, though. Dragon pilot like that one because I. Dragon pilot high school girl is amazing. And now funny thing about that was I it looks good. But I was like. Had to wait on, I might have to come back to you reason. Part for me is debt all those games that they talked about. I own him in play a friends. So it was like a history lesson of video games it was explained it to people it's like site, love and basketball, but video games. As I explained it to people that kinda don't watch enemy that blurred reference, right there for you to a co worker, you should watch our score grew 'cause she wants she wants her her kids in, like crazy souls like dragging apologised key friendly. It did progress starsoap zone today. It didn't just watch high school girl like video games is, is pretty a nothing. Crazy happens is using. So she's I wo- would like he's in love basketball of debit. We'd be day. She was like so any came back to work late next week mazing on my head to go watching 'cause dropped at love and basketball rivers, just because they might have to go watch just knock it out. And then I'm gonna talk about you like a dog if his bed. If you if you play the games and notice stuff here, you'll, you'll love just off the talking about the gains all the strength of the video games. Now let's talk about this versus man, 'cause I'm a ninety percent. Okay, everybody start off with you know that I quickly switched to serve and right now I'm proudly a ninety percent dub unless it's a voice actor that I know that I know is going to be good. I watched the show in English. All watch your show and or if I know the cast yourself is good. I watch the show. If but if I know like previously, this voice actors that good, right? That I've seen him on some other stuff. That's a no boy. Now I know a lot of people were not a fan of doing number Tony Marino. Have redesigned the knock, you out a fan of believe. No, no. When I what was the first on a Carter network? Do I can do it? I could not do it. You're gonna laugh. I've only seen eight episodes novato the entirety of neuro to the entirety of. Ruto shoop it in Voto, I ate, it is up to that could get into it. It was just I have kick you out. Pockets, so over on the just a to get into I am one day because you're not the only one not the only one I heard from. Only eight episodes row. It is slow and begin. I didn't hate it just it's slow. In begin had just had so many shows, I was watching Eddie knows school. At the time was the head a lot going onto our cannot invest time in into the show. Like I wanted to here's, here's I call I call myself a good anime historian. Okay. This. Okay. Yano I spend money on anime now almost described a crunchy row. This is the house, they crunchy row Bill. But back in the day where you could get an enemy. Oh, yeah. I was still in it. I was pirating so Naro when I was coming out getting straight from Japan and sub bro. Okay. Downloading like taking two three days downloaded one episode. That's, that's the level we talking about. Be share bear or something like that. But we tell them out that DSL where could be on a phone at the same time. That's, that's so sometimes I had to just leave it on night when everybody was sleep. That's the level we talking about dedication. Wait. What for me is far as jobs go out prefer. But I will do if I have to me by if I have to for instance, to a random as detective Conan moving the third, they went, Eddie. And I wanted to see and I knew for FEC, I was like this is never going to see English. Never I was like I'm watching too so title or crouch at granted enemy, but crouching tiger hidden dragon. You know, that was so I didn't have choice. We'll regionally like in the movie theater was so like if it's really, really, really wanna see, I know four that they're never going to be in our watch it so orphans on just watch it. I don't hate so title, have a preference of the. I'll watch any of it. I standard I, I have friends there they're still held to a lesser quality. But I don't tell them that. So I just I just like not having read it because I reminded I just if I'm watching the action discount, what listen to it's weird. Like I say, I'll do it. If I have when I wanted to be current on tag on titan because the nation takes awhile to date. Anything dragon ball anything attack on titan? They take on some reason, right? I guess wait on the season three part two I'm just sitting here waiting his come his comments. I think round Conan like this on ice. I'm like, that is it 'cause I, I don't think I wanna say it is this sunny, light nine o'clock. I think PM Google it and see. Because I'm curious because I've been wanting to get into season, are you? So you're you current on that show current on the tight on titan a Finnish. This didn't want to do the sub on a hall because I do I know the dogs coming and I have a ton of intimate. I'm trying to knock all the twenty nineteen right now. So I could wait on that one. Hold on. Ho ho, what are we talking about here? You say I when I when I say current on tag on light all the seasons. No, I have not watched any of season report to. Right. Okay. Yeah. But everything else. Okay. Also say hallway know what was funny attack on titan junior. High as you say, I try watching them, and I was like it was pretty funny house, like now, I like they for some reason, every like epic animate. They always try and do that. We're going to give it like this. She be funny version. They have one right now twenty nineteen season. It's a chi- or two. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah yeah, with it's got all the Doak shows us out now. Overlord. I can't think. Outta. I can't think ought to characters on every year. Heavy have you watched it? No. I just saw a couple of clips, and I was like, okay, okay. I can see why people watch this. So what do you watch right now? Or we don't talk about that later. I won't tell about what you watch right now man. Well, others to your last podcast when use of it quintessential quintuplets finished it. Did you finish that? How did how did you finish that bro? It was as cool. I like. I could. Okay at first, I was like, okay I'm into this is the typical harm except for a twins or, or critical implant Lewis. But they all kinda stupid. Right. My thing was my question was do they ever stop being stupid? Or is there a reason why they are stupid? Because because these characters are all failing high school off emails about away. Spoiler alert. Did they just learning? They did take it more serious. Taking him series. Warmed up to him and not her friends. And so you believe is going to be another season because a lot of these entities like recently, which I'm okay with a lot of these wanted enemies, here's utopia souls or out, I don't mind knows because there is so many one piece in dragon balls and a vase to catch up with this point. So these twelve episodes over out with those in his light they, they kind of leave it opening it. So if we decide to come back to this facet, which I have not seen, but I do know that it's been a long time to bro. Two thousand one by mation when they when they wouldn't own TV we had to order to be jesse's right now. Now, they won't they, they will come out with DVD's. I'm sorry. Become DVD's by. The just still in play. Player when I was a junior c two thousand one. Require may look I mean, let me take a Haggai hooked on fruit basket. I was like a customer customer of fundamental in the store. I was buying everything from him t shirts. The DVD's all of it. You name it. I was getting from, and they were like then they would just send out free stuff to me say, semi this low, they sit in a CD case. This will ask me they sent in the case, but it was a DVD, and it was like, oh, check out the first two episodes of fruit baskets, like what? Where is this do time in the animals in all this, and zodiac sense? And I'm like, okay, okay. Chinese ODI like really let me but yet row two thousand one. Yeah. I wrote it was maybe feel like dirt. I'm like I came up on this, but you did like oh. Okay. So you like it. I haven't watched I haven't watched the current twenty nineteen thing. But so what from I watch, oh, midnight of the coat. I think that's what it's called. I'm really filling a like it. I like that. I'm gonna start watching razzle shoot hero because I posted questions face animation. Watch Knicks in people recommended in what she said about it on your last podcast. Okay, I'm so mad. Even on the last episode. Episode is like what you would sell them. How you say how you highly recommended? Tonight. I'm gonna start it mice mice. I feel that. Slow another one. I watching is helpful helpful FOX light, Cinco about that. 'cause I, I know the name, but I don't think I watched any of it, it's pretty funny. Is basically this guy kinda as his job in. He is just so down that when he comes home. So the FOX's pampers help him, you know, get life like cooks for like, coins in it's like one of those lights of life enemies is like coming shows, you how powder living, which, which I do like because I did go to Japan recently. And now that I why somebody's animates see, like how will the real life over? There goes together would appreciate it a lot more. Got you got you when anything else you watching Raisman. Why did you go back much older stuff too? Okay. Well, older stuff you watching manorial, obviously, I watched this one of kiss him, not me. Is pretty funny. So basically, this girl, she was she was she was bigger. He was big girl, her favorite anime character die and because of the stress. She lost weight in which came at the school, she was high, but she liked the enemies in mangas were boys like shoulder. So three hottest dues school were trying to court, her thing was using three or four all trying to talk to her. She wanted a light talk because he likes those type of enemies. So that's why it's called kiss him, not me. He was trying to hide talk ally. Desi where they discovered as she was one. It was they were it is in Ocoee. They went to go see movie it in a guy was like a last call. This limited edition end of figuring is running out. We have five left it. She had like a taco meter. It was like going up it in my each time, he says the didn't touch her war. It is winter to roof issue. Right across the street in, like what is she doing it? She like all this energy. Taco is he was trying to hide it in one of the last episode she may all go to convention in it was it's pretty good. I liked but a gamers, another good one that I like. Bacha intest game balking into out heavy in tears laughing. New new school, there's school. I didn't know that the oath grew from eighties. Okay. I did not watch that when I was two one on a nation. Nice the new one is, is good. I was in tears laughing. It was so funny, if like you gotta take it serious. But then, but then, the, the demon like does is we're funny stuff. And you just like day. He just got it'd be like, dang it. He took me out the whole episode with that one line. Remember because I have a if I'm watching it like, if I watch enemy can talk about it like the week after I watch it. But then there is some kind of forget like the little ports happen here in your or something that really stand out. But I remember break of produce some of it. It's a good show. I mean it's number one is classic. It's a classic anime and redid it. And is I don't want to say it's the same show but it's got all the same elements of what made the old one great. And then they just better animation art that storyline honest, though, get you get you millennials onboard. The. Yeah, that's there. Watching, I can't think right now I have a regular show recently Alterman, which, which one, the one on FOX. I know you don't like it or style. But it it becomes a father be I, but I got used to it. Did you? Yep. I got used to put on ultimate fan. So of saying, if I was out, al-shammari fan are probably would have liked it, but me join ultra made at the level that I do a kind of deal with of tribe, bro. I got two episodes. Maybe three. I'll just like I can't do this law is good. I give it a shot. But aggressive go on loving net. Yes. Yes. Air come in biz caca rookie out pretty pronounced at Rome, 'cause I heard people wanna gamble P kinda announced for ways. You said it, one of the right way. So don't matter here. But I it and you love that I love it's really good can really get into a bro. I don't know why I might not really gave it a solid chain. Which I do that a lot, understandable, could you have you try to watch tried to do a lot of animate? So you have to be really picky because of your time constraints, get getting as kind of like me Gaiman by your so many games that I want the division too is taken over right now. But we're not talking really there's a really if play the first one we not really talking about games, but play personal outlook on it and the second came and I was like I wanna get it. But I'm like, I'm not gaming right now. So I love it is, is fun Email the planet were unlevel twenty nine right now. So I'm happy doing that Wilbur. I love the fact that they said that the year one deal is free because he's games manhood on you because I could go on, on the talk. Now, we're not gonna over goes Enervate go through that, but the anime pad podcast, but enemy in gaming combine dude, like, dragon ball fight recy- in for force into my hero Kadamy game because they went on sale. Yes, yes, I have the. Funny thing. So this is what I do. I buy all the anime games and never played. I don't blame you. I have about the game by late like I have gained some black Friday do in the plastic. Right. Not this Friday. But like last Friday, that's how I am. But like is weird 'cause now to Rowling's enemy games out, bro, every year, it used to be like, every six months? Here's anime game now, it's there's like three or four to come out every year quality and good quality, one piece eventually gay looks amazing. And I don't really like the those arena style fight against like a migraine Mia Joan force, but says a low of the enemy so much those Kirk is so much gonna put up with it. But the waited they drag fighters e of waiting on the drag among game like there for years. And the first time I got to play was ended may not enemy of Europe, Comecon right before it came out. I got the play. Everybody was jealous because I had this video of look at me play his game. We're just like a need. Here's a funny thing. People don't know that game came out longtime ago really it just only came out of Japan. Believable is the same. It's, it's the same to me. It's the same game like we talking about maybe nineties, maybe eighties, bro late eighties that game came out, but only came out Japan. I played it a few times, like on an import and man like to see them actually bring that to us. And now it's like it's like an official fighting game like the fighting game community has taken that on like it's a anime biting game, and they take it on as serious. I'm so happy for that. There's another one. It has anime characters in it of I forget the name of it. But I know the end makers Durra year. There's a there's a fighting game with those characters into to really. Yeah. Because when I went to Momo thing, it's actually out on P is of Vida because my boy at work of has it I can't. The name of it, but I saw that Momo con because mobile, they have a game in section of neighboring in Japanese cabinets, and is free play. So, yeah, we sheltie Mana Selena bartender. The this is so many an regains, we don't get over here, bro. Like when I when I went to Japan to destroy our super talk about later but quake, what super potato it ahead shown job any as classy. It was within my grass. I didn't buy it should have shown jump. Any is who was the you know what care was on it? I'm sorry if Famicon family guys. Oh auto wear. So I've met because it looks cool is like, is gold in Bergen. It has like about thirty enemy games on there from the error everything, but they're not gonna be English, like was going on a guy, I'm gonna merge up knees because after my trip, I have to learn this one thing is a lot of people say while you're going to pay if you don't speak Japanese. Why do I need to on his technology out here when I was over there? I was using Google translate. Yes, I had Shifa box back at the post office holding up the line. He knows very most of us only speak more language this lady spoke her lame shoes. I she saw struggling issues vote per language through Japanese influence, English is, she was not there, our dinner, so low, but she is like a knee help. I was like shrewd. Are you offering now chooses I what did she want to hurry up because he was hiding. This guy out of here. So Leyla, she was real nice. And she helped me out, and she tries everything. But before she got there with issues will translate, this type of I want to shift this in school is not good stuff. Do the Google translate is so is so good this I'm just gonna say this like me nerd now. So I follow follow to follow all the actors from oughta coming right of shows in a lot of superstar shows and it's just one season that I really liked intuitive, the actors really went together and people trying to ship them and all that stuff. So they interact on ide- in live video, and like, anytime I see them pop up. I'm like, I'm, I'm sending them all kinds of stuff like I love you in whatever and man, you guys off. Awesome. And who would translate, bro? Guber translates amazing. Like I used it in, in the stores like magazine, or something if you take a pitch translate to still for you. Always use. That was doing at lie. That checking in hotels like got to the point to where I had like a template of questions. I knew I was going to ask added shows just saved him. He keeps track of all this, you can lead your history by this had little template of inaugural gonna ask. I may. So we've talked about growing up anime talked about the top five we talked about what you currently watching. Do you wanna know what I'm currently watching? You wanna know you wanna know you wanna know what I'm watching. Man. We got time for that. I have I have. Eight o'clock. So if you listed last absorbs, so, you know, I'm watching at least ten shows right now attack on titan season the report to rise shield hero. I'm trying to watch a was a coat on the night. I'm trying to watch that. But I'm I'm slacking on that. I just blanked out. Adamy budget. I just like that. Oh man. What am I watching? I can't even think of that. Now. I'm I'm watching borough. I'm watching this edgy show called A Y you hear teacher heard about that one. What else my watching I'm going to rewatch? The new fully Cooley, aggressive and was aggressive and progressive, we're going to rewatch those insult because originally came out to NAMI. So Marie US does. And so they just hit crunchy row shutout. Cruncher olympiada. No just hit crunch zero sum west. I'm watching demon slayer recommend I. That's that's, that's my number one. That's my number one show right now. What did this what you said last pockets was deemed. So you want to David slayer. That's my number one show, bro. I had to if, if I'm not here talking to you right now. I'd be watching that episode on. So it's between any resolutio- hero. So as you're gonna recommend overshoot hero. They close. They close. I wake. Oh for rising shield hero, too. So. Demon slayer IB yearn for that. That's kind of Harvey. Dan? I'm calling again. You can't go wrong, bro. Some watching sports anime ace. No diamond. I love sports anyway. Yeah. Baseball, I love sports anime. So I'm always on those ace. No diamond is my show. This is the third season. No, I'm sorry, act, too. So second season. Boone, go straight dogs are you season? And watching that recommend that one. I recommend that. It's been on my list for so long. This Acidini Mike. He that's that's that's one. I recommend you, it's you don't have to rush on that one is good. But it's not like that's when you take your time, it's a lotta. It's one of those animates make you think great action. But it's gonna make you think like, oh snap. Oh one. So that that's one. I can't think of what else anything else I can't do it suggest out there on your plate. What? I recommend Meeks. I don't know. Man. I look, I know is there and everytime, I think about cooking on it. I get to looking at the art style, and I'm like. I like to are still like different styles. I really liked this one has watched here. Here's the thing lately. Some sports animates the our style is great, but they'll be cheat on animation and it won't work for me. If you're going to do a unique, our style Stielike that you're animation has to be on point like you can't be cheap on animation oils is then for me to watch so for like a soul like demon slayer is got a unique art style. But then they hit you with some amazing animation. And you it's like I never seen that, Mike. This. You know what I'm saying? So mix is that unique art style is the animation point. I've never watched episodes. So I don't know. That's kinda why I'm fence now you're going to look at it through different lands. When I watch the next episode now that's for me. That's for me, personally. For me, personally, I like it. Okay, I'm easy. He doesn't take his. I'm not I don't like everything, but it's just like, hey, something, so. I will. Oh, another one idea. Recent big. Yeah, that's classic. I just watched it last week. I just blew through it. It was so, yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's classic right there. I mean, that is classic in sports, anime, MAC, classic and make people hate on sports. Anime. I was surprised when they played Lupu Dury's music when they had the truce qui- playing pond, and I was like, what it didn't ask you played the theme song from looping dirt, sir is so funny. How like shows like lupin third of if you want to get Tomoe watched good time here and there, but likes desk, that's one of the things like about anime enemy doesn't take yourself. So seriously. But then it does take it. So seriously pay homage to other enemies in anime 's like I love that, like, it's just so well rounded of a culture in art form animation. That is just everything about everything about it. I love dude. It pay another animate in episode or some. They looping should not top five. Now thing out Redick enough out five, I don't ever put it in its classic is very classic for me. But it's never in my top five is heck of lot easier for me to do a tab, teen Intel five in no specific order because you were job when you had your five today. I can do top five. I can do one, but I would have to cancel out a lot of classic. Great shows, I don't have a problem with that. Will you be able to like random offer Oakley? I think so. Okay. You want to do it, right. New from my list. I'm will most of you already know I'm ago, cassia go by what blew my mind, so I'm gonna go cab. I'm government. I stick. We're old school. So we'll do this, this old school list. I'm gonna go cowboy bebop go outlaw star. I'm gonna go you hockey show. Drag ball course or drag Mosey, I just considered a whole franchise that fits by. I don't know. I want I want to say, I wanna say, even Arto goes in shale this, but no, no, no. Hold on. I'm sorry. I'm sorry gun any gun. I have a core gas remain Gundel. So when I was over there, he was amazed, but have not got into going up. All winning any my of, of glanced at it checked out the Mexico. I love every level. Our style evolving. Never watched it because I just didn't have the time. It was also harder to find this to begging today is going to those sites because would me a lot of the stuff that I watched it with this easy access. But I was never really into the whole hopping on by specific websites to find enemies. I didn't want to start any like nays go on how people feel about that. But you notaro's websites during find anime in never really been too big on that for what Pablo because we're knowing in even probab- Lockett stuff, everything. But it was not, like watching television. I don't like much my laptop. You like watching television TV like ABC, and like farts and stuff like that. I mean, we're like, like cable yes for it. No, no. What minutes? Like I have XBox, I had the fun of nation amp or you like watching on watching. Okay. I got you. I got I granted, you know, your XBox UPS Florida's of the browsers so you need to do. As annoying. I feel on that, although like 'cause I'm I wanna say, I'm busy a lot. So I'm always moving per se. So like this crunchy like wind crunchy row came through like out full while I was now on crunchy row, as I like. I heard about it to nausea, but I was like, man, I don't know. I'm stick with these, these fake sites. Illegal sites that I've been watching everything on in his all in subtitles, you know, it's annoying that you can get a virus and all that. But I you know, I got topper Landwehr checks. Get the pop up. So I'll deal with that. But I finally got on crunchy row. And I'm like, hold on. They gotta at I can watch enemy or ever. I'm in a world. I don't know about world reason say they is Greg. How put a phone ovation Japan you can do this your country. Okay. Like, what I was trying to watch of that was in the room. I was trying to why so thin on the nation in this country. What grin Greg so not all countries but or in a world, but? United states. I can I can watch anime. Unheard of what we were coming up. Right. And now of emission, as you can download the, the two year you download episodes to your phone. Heck, when I have hag now I want to make sure that paying for it, but that's dope. I did it a couple of times just to test out and see how what's, what's keeping from somebody bootlegging kind of like, how Netflix, does it whenever if you download it, you lose the rights to it on your offline illness today because I learned the hard way I was going to watch his standup comedy shows for eight the hotel, like two days before downloaded dig into counter did not start until I started watching it. I know. Alimony got on the plane. I was like. Yeah. Rizzi. Got a gun on loud when? Yup. Is it the same way you know what? It's fun stuff that idea. Download I watched instantly. To my this nation. So I didn't give it time to like, go away. Mation trying to they trying to trying to take over bro. They aren't doing. I'm not gonna let them go. But understand, though, both companies because when I go goes conventions nation as never really hasn't giveaways for real. I don't give Rangers and stuff like that. But crunchy rose, you're a subscriber. He just nice stuff. You get a con- bag instantly. Right. Also Jurvetson avoid boy, he has country. Where'd you get the advantage? One night I get a bags away. Yeah, every kind I go to get the bag and I give it away. Yeah. Yeah, but I become one of the switch over. I know for a fact that nature goal is to go to the crunchy roll awards as emphasis go. I wanted to go to that. But this would this is the second year they've done it. And I'm like, man. I don't know. I don't think I don't think they I think the first year wasn't. It was just like this is strictly industry only only. But in this year they did. I think they did have, like, I think they had, like some kind of press thing you can do. And if I were new it early and had some way to do it, which I didn't. But I would have done it. But I'm thinking I've been thinking about doing it every since the second one went off Mike, I gotta go to that. I have to wanna go like go like Dow for going. I'm going like in the funny thing is like now I know everybody at works there. Really? Yeah, I know the VP of communication. I got ourselves phone number. You enter the VP of communication Akron, Chiro personal sale. We talk then I, then I just met. Well, Adam Sharon, he just got promoted to their over events, directive events. So I've interacted with him and the NFL serve other event teams. I've been working with them on stuff. So it's kinda like bro. I need that. Point, I guess they're going. So let me know Gottfried out. Just got figured out. The want everyone to Frisco Reto Sturgis street commission street off topic, but one of the things I said, multifaceted, foodie so travel had like a food hit list. Oh, yeah. Mission burrito, or Lido was amazing. I missed Riedel's from for the rest of my life. Okay. So check this out. This is the weird thing about win. So I went to crunchy row expo twenty seventeen. Here's the weird thing when I was there, they had it at the Santa Clara convention center, right across from it is the same for San Francisco. Giants are they San Francisco? Giants baseball team now. The football team. No forty Niners. He had a forty nine their stadium is right. Across in there, right? Yeah. Some like what I'm in Santa Clare. Right. So how is holiday the San Francisco forty Niners. See, I'm not too familiar with that part because I didn't see because what I would do. I was just Oakland here. Am I just the main area of downtown? Okay. And then, then I was in San Jose. And I can't get nobody to take me Oakland. Uber may like no, we don't go to chart extra. Go to I'm like, oh, cool. I'll need to go to already know Joan. It was not even. That it's not. A group Niro point. So I mean yeah. So. If you keep your head down don't mess with nobody, you're good. I mean anything can happen anywhere. My friends senior fruitvale. Wow. So what was it Oakland? I stayed in fruitvale crazy any problems at all as crazy. Our no, bro pool. It will. Pool. It apple. I don't know. I stayed in Brooklyn New York in in any brook any Brooklyn award. Isn't that Brooklyn? Isn't it ain't that Brooke right? It ain't that nineties Brooklyn. Is this gentrified Brooklyn now? Yeah. I wouldn't I wouldn't I was in the worst part of Brooklyn. They had lightest where I was at, but it was still not that nineties, Brooklyn. I didn't I guess they didn't planes in a stage of state Rigo part first time. But second Thomas. I medals and I had no idea, how for that was a took that Bush one time the I recall, the blessed my life never again. I, I stayed in Queen is accused other team, the I stayed in queens, one time you would know it like here's a weird thing about New York, you can be stay in his area where you could tell it used to be all talian and then talionis moved out in the Koreans kinda will not Koreans necessarily. But all the like other. Mashonaland start moving. So we're asked eight it. I was reading apartment and the Koreans owned it. But the guys that was owning VO Deger's in someone like low clove around there will like afghanis or Muslims or whatever, like Pakistanis all on them. So they will like owning some of the stuff around the corner, and I'm like, man, this stuff is so bad verse, bro. And it was a good neighborhood note. No crime in light quiet at night. But then you go, maybe like three blocks. And I'm in, in queens, queens in hood, lake bums, you know, so my man is so crazy. How? So mashed in mixed together. Unlike here here, we have the deal more divide yet. It didn't even state in show neighborhood shell park. I said, on Russell Shaw, the of my front yard was kinda sorta in my backyard. Elliot's were had the park they have private security. So but this is lik spots. It is it was crazy. I was like, wait. You guys have private security at watches your health all the time. But my front yard is is at opposite of uses insane. Yeah. It's, it's crazy. Here is crazy here. But he was which talk about kinds like relations early. Did you get? Wiki Wiki get. I don't know what we talk about as far as commissions though. Well, like your because your experiences, I guess, for. You because I mean, our experience going to be different, right? 'cause I'm going, I'm going is, you know, press and cover in all that, but you go in as like the ultimate fan. You know what I'm saying? Well, I do for you EP depressed man. Yeah. Other to get one of those one day. Like it's crazy because even do the people, some of the people imprint it's not as great as is not. Now mine. I'm last sometimes it is. Sometimes they. Yeah. 'cause I know some of them had like to New York mccown, they have like preferred interest to lie some of the panel. Yes, sir. They kinda get ready. I know that they had the mouse for depressed because one of my friends in what C C at a while to the press state. What Chris areas? You can't. If she sneak you now. Aling hear me that yelling here that it was. Dan, wanna go into the icy have couches in places to sit stuff to floored like wanna go in there. Snags air conditioning. Have you been to before? Curricula twenty sevens, contra expo twenty seventeen anime NYC twenty eighteen anime STL since twenty sixteen. So I go every year. Ami SEO. Okay. I went to one I don't know if it's Mastel around. It used to be called it's called something simple. Now, it's in Collinsville Illinois. Here we call some else in change to something sympa. I go to whiz world every year here in Saint Louis C to eat my first year this year. I love it. I love it when a lot of animate, but I still loved it. I was getting buried with anyway, because this is my seven one and I will say that they are getting a lot better with anime. I had to figure that out at, like, okay. This is they're not big on animate here. But this, this particular year they included enough to where it was, like, okay, I can rock with that anime central. I went last year. First time I ask your first time last year. Crazy. Okay. Crazy. Admit to go this year, but I had plans that I committed to. So I couldn't go this year. They should have been amazing ago to off the chain. Off the chain, every facet every safe from form you name it. They had it, it was going on. See I hated that missing one mainly. I see told the app today lecture, let it might be. Your story as store. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I personally have been to legacy to seven times, this number eight in twenty twenty. See Tutu's icy, I gone, by the way, I gun ever back in two thousand six seventy bang, but six. Dragon Khan, which is my favorite one. Okay. I love blurred, con blurred condemnation of great staff. Cool, people of DC is, is amazing out there. So even if you're not at the Kander still. So most of you could do NBC in there so much to see their but in also order, count as one of the least expensive ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I s another saying this idea mating his thing though in time. I see a kind where is listened say, price friendly? I think man, they can't hint really have when I when I'm looking for they're not what you're looking for. Like, are you sure it's is fun? Like they have this year is still coming, but, you know, I'm looking for fun necessarily, but you gotta have some fun. I mean, I have fun period. Right. Because the love anime. But like when I go looking for, you know, I'm looking for certain style, right? Talk to, you know, people to interview, and I will say that a smaller con such as blurry comedy great for that. Because if you go to like see two or Senegal Comecon or New York comic. Con like good trying to talk to some, some of the higher people. It's, it's, it's, it's tough. But if you go to broader con-, you know, you have a better chance, I, I could prob- probably could've envy, mega negative, if I would bother him. Hey, what's up by because he's at the car walking around on the floor talking to people taking Sophie's in taking pitches in selling his merch. He's out there it in the summer writer, she's coming on, if you've seen her British bureau, yet, she's don't she's, she's a stunt. Person in a month in a maze. The black, maybe the minasian wire videos, yet, you saner if I think it's too is two of them. It does that I can't tell we wanted to several writers come in of IP, hop troopers always, dear not familiar with him. No us about addresses as stormtrooper. But with the Dido's champs on makes hip hop. Miocene year. He's, he's really cool. Do like he's always down tall by it's easier. Like it's a lot easier to talk these people in a small space in going to a large face with when you're competing with, like, whatever the equivalent of g four TV is right now or sci-fi or somebody like that, like, you're not gonna win definitely got definitely have to be if you're a bigger outlet, or national outlet, you definitely automatically getting there. But if you're if you really pop in, you can. Get an air to you could. We're way all is. Yeah. Yeah. You get their trust me. Oh, yeah. You know, I, I haven't been doing this, this long, but I'm already I've already seen changes to where I can go and what I can do so I'm definitely getting there. Definitely in there. Everything's gonna work out for there. Let this do like this. I kick you out here, man. I'll do audit praise. I won't people June well and have a great time, able people to do whatever they wanna be okay. So I'm gonna ask you wit. Okay. What's, what's your five or six or ten go to like when you go to a car like? Things you gotta do or you have seen like what's your draw, too. Yeah. You for me just community is being with the, the people like Greenwich have people here that I can talk to about enemy by is foreign few like you ally, Julian or a few people that I don't see all the time. But when we get together is going to be a long conversation about the stuff that I like, but with the convention, like you could just talk to anybody about anything you can learn so much from people by sit down, and listen to people. And you will discover something that you did not to, like s wanting really like doing and also this beaten, like, really cool people. So I have there's a term running around will go into running going around called family. Con family is a legit thing is it is because people that might also meet like what you what are you doing for your cause play? Good to check up on people like if I post saying about me film will buy into like, I'm not like what's up? We need to talk. He won't talk about helping us the people that I've met these cons and get together talk off the air. We look forward to seeing each other. Every year is like a fan reunion. So this meeting, it is specially earn so much difference of the excess two things people is a assessment like going to concerts, medium people. The other thing is like the fun stuff. I think about blurred kind they have comedy show, which was hilarious. A never been to a comedy the blur. Con issued either introduce VIP so they're gonna have a nineties, pajama party on a rooftop. They have barbecued. They're gonna have to food tro debt on the barbecue. Yet ahead of barbecue. Last year. They have brunch have brunch. They just go say it will be blurred Khan, and they have got Dag-o barbecue. And I bet you it's good to see I, I didn't do the barbecue only because it was my first time in DC. So I kept leaving coming back to this guy, but I am doing it this year, though. So during the barbecue Doina brunch win is that July eleventh this year. Is it? Yeah. July what else are twelve to fourteen underscored early because I guess, go onto DC friends up there. So we're just gonna have a day without the con we're gonna get the DC. Yeah. Well, we talk. New York steep for me. Well, eh depends, tell used at website until you about Google this track your flights on Google flights. I mean ballpark figure ballpark as the it was. You flew always fly. Okay. Now, yes, it's a. Like to something. Okay. Here's what a flight now. Route. True. Yeah. Okay. That's not bad true. It like what I do so tiles, like if I'm being cheap Mike about my flight deer like up out one way. Just what this to secure my flight. There later on about a flight beg. You come out cheaper, though. It depends like if you kinda had to catch the deal you do. But, like if you're like money's look go you had like a bunch of bills come up, like let me at least secure my way. There you try and get their last seat on, on a plane, something like that. 'cause I've done that before where, what have out they? So I was coming back. Oh, I came back from now. I know I came back and cruncher ro twenty seventeen and I want stricter Chicago from from Kelley, pay cancel off maiden. Cancel it. But they overbooked flight from Chicago to Saint Louis. So they told, you know, they do the whole thing, you gotta go to this boo get get a transfer ticket or whatever they call it. I don't know what they call it the ticket, and then we put in the on this other plane so like. But it was I had to say you know, we ain't paying extra for this, you know, you know, this same price. They were like yeah. Yeah. But the debris, which it ninety rhyming jet idiot. They get shit by walking kit. I was coming from dragon con at twenty fifteen oversold the flight by flight to dragon Khan was two hundred fifteen dollars. They wrote me a check for two sixty because they overbooked flight and only have to wait forty five minutes to get another one who who's with delta our so sorry to fly after go to work, which I didn't have the next day idea, but will know roost oppose off your whole plans. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it does. But, like they will be a check for about hope flight, plus on. So that was, I went straight to the Bank when lady onto the vein that is out at the guy waited, I waited I wanna say, I waited at our bro. Like check this out. This was was bad about it the airport wedding like the shops and stuff when open you. Got there late. We got there like early in the morning early early. So all shots was closed when we got there, fhu McDonalds, wouldn't even open, bro. So I'm just sitting in there like whistle. And then there's nobody in there. I'm in their whistling looking around, you know, crazy stuff. I'm like, I'm so bored. Right now, I started dancing on live. And then finally, they started opening up shops, I guess, on the way to some more, not at now, the airport starting to open up, and I'm like, now I can actually switch. You know my flight ticket or whatever. But yeah, we talk, I think I waited our to call. If you call it a customer service, number learned buffering taught me that your head on get stuck the first time with New York Comecon, I guess, because a roommate fleece off with their plan to go out flu. I think Merican in, like, hey, due to where the conditions my boy just took off on roommate just took off going where this plane was going by Howard. They take overnight. They said they didn't want to say was mechanically issue because they did had to pay us. So it's they blinded on whether which it was raining. It was under storm or anything driven, so avoid call in people waiting in line waiting him. I didn't get but my boy called in. He got his most these while right by them. So he called complain that you, you can get the was was crazy about my pants trip last year's enemy. When see was they had we had that ice storm here. Okay. And in New York head the. Icestorm and the blizzard. Right. So I was going to get up there Thursday like early Thursday. I was gonna flying in Selo. Get my homeboy in Brooklyn. They have some pre stuff going on, on Thursday result. Get into all that, right. Man, I got to the airport. They said we not having any flights leave here. Now at this time New York was cool nether was going on, on Thursday. But here we had the ice stone. I said, no flights leaving here and I'm looking at planes, taking off right. That's why I was mad. So then they said, not only did they not fly Thursday, any flou- Friday. So now I actually missed a whole day at con. Yeah. Finally, Saturday, we flew out early. All other thing I had to find flights myself to to get to New York. South west. But no, they apparently will I think delta have had a couple of flights. But they Jack the price up to like a thousand dollars. Round through it. So I guess I just wait bro and already paid for the tickets on like, I'm nothing like trying wait on the right. Mitch or reimburse me. And then I gotta try and flip that I'm like half of it. So I was like I just fly Saturday. So I flew out like Saturday. I got around noon by that time they had already had the blues, it already had two snowstorm Eyestone, and it was over, bro is always, there was no snow when I got to New York like nine in two days. None, not a drop. You couldn't tell anything happened. I was like, what an aware of this, then I missed a whole day, kind I was so mad. I was so mad. It through my whole Terry all has had concert tickets for enemy mass Serey, like all the people that do enemy songs where one concert, so had tickets. That I'm like, man. I seen him if I don't get on Saturday. Glad I didn't buy the ticket on Friday or else. I would have been out of money. So we take you my enemy in Wesley this year. I'll definitely definitely my boys up there. We work together on our ready put in my my request. I don't know how America she it look into to put it on my module, I could do walls in advance. So I'll all by in case stuff like six months to the day, like I watch like hall, so I have any weekend. Lanta appro-, newer, Comecon, sorry, ninety recount end they weekend, Atlanta, anime in dependent which wanna wanna go to also you don't know real. I don't know. Because like I say, depends, because it has friends. That say, oh, winter into Akon in, I want to experience a convention, where where y'all go flat again to go somewhere too early because I love Atlanta's wanna get your. I wanted to get dirty early. Just partying. See my friends, admit going convention here, Gutman been, but I wanna take it out. Hurt is good. Also is a Halloween easier. So convention cars play Halloween is going to be great. I'm not rocking with it. So I like portent so I'm not America with the Halloween will Miami. So Halloween is like one of my favorite holiday, just because, like a party fun. 'cause you don't have kids still so who party, you can't any Wayne is, is like we like his party in a costume have fun and be sui by you can't just randomly show up to a club in Costo in the hey, was going on. So it would be weird if he did it like Edie convention, as fine, but it's like Meghan. Go to the marquee. Goku I guess, I guess, because they're conventions like year all year round like how we become overrated. See, I like house plan. I like house play too late hill. You dress up is because just gene one year from San chiampou. Okay. Or gene? Nice it and then. Just like a member from psycho pass. I love. So I got I got a dominator. I don't have the fischel dominator but I got. The one that doesn't move in have the voices in audit. I want. I didn't interview with a guy that had it was, yes. Was eight hundred dollars comes look, I going you to Nassau video of did you. Yes. How much was may? But who play s sixty academician Ellen eight in real life, who you Okaz play as itchy not done yet. I have not done if I I don't costly as much anymore in lists. I'm not working, you know, working. So I don't know if I wasn't working in a had the money to cost play have been wanted to. Oh, actually I'm lying. I'm lying. I'm actually I'm actually coming up with constantly right now. I'm line. I came up with the putting together calmer. Writer pass play for EMU from of camaraderie. After his main cadre, comrade, x eight nine his Colorado form but his regular form with the camaraderie built. So I got the Bill, I got his outfit, I need to get the I need to get a Bill extender. That's the only thing I'm missing from the cost play. I gotta get the Bill extended for the belt so fits my big may size. But I haven't because I don't have the build extender I having opened the box because I ordered this from Japan, heavy ordered to box with a built, bro. Ahead of Lewis experience Japan in cows play. So not to cast place, by the way, I have got like people following me from Japan just like become Radha fans and they showed like. Dressing up in comrades all the time my whereas in Japan I need to find probably in Kyoto at the toy toy studio te'o yet. But. Accounts players a student interest in which uniform Jimmy before jail. Okay. So ornate, thinking no order to be, you know, no. And it was crazy because it was Christ. I had like read as before took off from I mean, drag and do it gets. Guess I about three of them because I'm gonna fit one of these so about three of different sizes yet because I've about the small one in a head. Another one bought a small dot about it menial. Okay. Okay. Cool. So Melissa gonna go one size of art should be cool because the pants recruit. But the top wasn't so okay if you go assize up, so I so I had to order nother one at two of them out there have one entrance than one come in to me. So I had to order, like three three of them, so I can fit it bro. I actually ordered a you a I I wanted to you a gym shirt. But just a t-shirt version out of the two. It's nobody no. No, no way. No. Like when I was in Japan to unique low, like our medium normally as about large over there. Order you private on you probably have heard of this bliss. Call kicks Toyo note. They take like it's not grab your girls but they take like models. They delight photo soups with a like dope. Sneakers like most of the time they do Nikes, and they don't really switch, it up from Nike's Nagy's Jordan's, but they usually have like a famous actor actress. Model bikini sometimes, and but they're the teachers shirts look amazing in teachers like great quality. So I have wanted her shirts, but it's a it's a two x and it's like just barely just barely will fit me. I one Maltese burger won't fit me anymore. Not man. I got it kept in America Under Armour shirt. And I'm not rocketed into onto my body's ready like raging Reggie fee to me, you know, y'all about that. My body is ready. An hardy shop miss, so if you ever heard the guy Reggie that used to be the spokesman for Nintendo. You've heard say like my body's radio where people that is Joe. I know he's a big do. I have to look it up on though your main. But it was pretty funny over at the bag stories owes nothing negative. Right is funny. Is this funny? Okay. Look into that, but yes over dead end the refu- cows plates, wanna do, but I wanna be shaped when I do wanna. Tire motivation is, like not the economy play over, you want to just under own, right? Right. Just personally like go, that I have is like I wanna wear. Onesie. Who you tell mom? If unless you don't wanna give it out right by ultra man like I want the skin-tight on. Scene. Ultra-mini warn a lonely one. It wasn't a onesie tight. Like or yeah. Even like department of the mouse. The one t's Lakers, people wear like the wrong with like, you know, you're figures as fine by just 'cause Pinkett actor, I have fun. But just me personally, like I could cause plays now I want to Peru, but it's just as being safe for us. I could go to the have, like I had this Under Armour shirt, it, I'm not gonna wear into like sorting point. Man, just do. Just put it all out there. Okay, so Alterman. Well, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. 'cause players of the US student in my first 'cause play over was a Brillon, which is black Crillon. Not. I get it 'cause I couldn't find the, the makeup, like I didn't know how because what if I put this on memory L, like I was kinda worried about it, it didn't it didn't results ruin because I have a council Corp pet that I have is. So I had to the core pay in my blue chokes on. So then I hit like this other says, research that was Berlin in people got a kick out of even drag you can like on the badge you could say whatever you want your name to be so Bruma. No mother. Really people still call me like how do you not know what is lastly, Rilling saying, how do people not know what? There was some people that didn't that you'd be surprised because these casual people that go now I hate it which is good. I did though I see it's a love hate thing like it because people were getting into. Grows than they produce more stuff, right? At like that part, you're also people just get away. That's the people, I'm talking about graduate here. But you people you all the pops you don't even want, you got some resellers, as their way there is crap ton of things. It didn't a result for a higher. Price senior. Like I went to phone. Call had really lies booted NYC when I went in it was crazy. Because you had that by have the reserve ticket three months before the event from link through Twitter in order to stay alive for three hours by Funke. Pups. Well, you can stand the lion, but these people that resort, they regard the reserve tickets. You know, they go I, I was like, okay that's fine is you ticket is yet to go online remotes ago, also quit. It is. So you can get whatever they have whatever they'd be over heated the leftovers like you came of what the leftovers because I wanted to get to go get him today. I wanted to Jane's gun phone cO hitting James going the directive of he was he's from here. So, okay. Simon was hometown this supports. I wanted to get his pop. But couldn't I was that way. Ended up for three hours. There were panels. I wanted to see funny story about James Gunn. Not funny story. I met Michael Rooker, edit comet just randomly out about NetCom. Okay. James Goan was there his brother that plays a racket does the, the body worked for racket. He was here. And while admit Mike, Rooker house, like I was like two feet from James Gunn in. It didn't happen. But still. Knows crazy. Almost James going Estee of amping in city, so he had shared he was on Instagram. He had checked in at the target had just left. I had just let harnessing the toy he was at the target Hampton Chippewa is pretty famous or has this was posed like last year. And no one recognized. I don't know what he did in compensates. Somebody recognize them, but I had just left at target by literally lists in our after the F he made undue before he may depose elderly. He because he doesn't look like somebody, you recognize. I guess generic like guys he doesn't really send veasley Brock. U S, two rock. Right. C J going. James good. It might be say anything like if you see my Rooker you don't. That's my Rooker. Right. They happened to me when I made Jay music, the stark liver Jason news. Kevin smith. Oh, yeah. I had I made Jason starkly he looks different sometimes. But he kinda disguise yourself. He. I was a regular because two s stood by our standard rate, check out there. Let me look this up because I think this is a nerve for doing this. Tickets to the show, and I was like this make SIS looks like Jason news. In a hell of show deal more. So I'd be hill. So a coup go mad. Because he was like it'd be group 'cause I wanna be stupid did not a new was on a hurt talk. Hey, thanks for, you know, checking out take me out. Do those to the Kirk anytime. Okay. Okay. I noted voice as differently him, so able, so ma'am, you're still we start talking for a second year. We took a picture and that was it. So. Yeah, because I had a show with the room when his had the show at the pageant at the do j about Goodall Iden comic book, men, so this, this back in two thousand twelve they had a show back when the show was, like I am see they did a show in a Doug Roman s to show that have tickets for did to get tickets to the kills with Jay news because it has sold out. But. That was set. But man is crazy is a good time. We, we, we've run down homing, you anime comrade sources that origin stories trip to Japan cons, conventions, we've talked about it all top fives, will recurrently watching August. Ramble. No. I mean, this is the enemy pay pockets. That's what we do owner. If you've been listening to any of my previous episodes, you know, that's what we don't hear any guess I bring in, we just go we just go. And this one is a little longer. But we we went we went here, but it's been great guys. Don't forget, as always, you know, you can catch us on items. You can catch us on Spotify. Tune in app Google play. While no subscribe, like, and we can go to our actual website, and that's enemy pad podcast that blueberry dot net. And it's B L U B R, Y dot net. You can go there. You can one click subscribe to any of those platforms, or you can also download us instruments directly from the site. So don't forget, the comment like us Starace anywhere. We are, you know, all that good stuff. You know, let us know if you hate it if you like we are there for it, but that is the. Sold guest star. Glenn expand to Japan, all the good, kind, conman convention, man anime, man comic man, all my in the black flesh. You name it. He is. Here is probably, not the last time he will be on the show prime minister last time he will be privacy him next time in a video of some sort. Of year. We'll say with NASA I don't know. I don't know. I'm already supposed to be slaved beat her. I don't know. You might see some craziness next time guy building look out for that. And don't forget, the blog and had that were press dot com. And also, the YouTube page express team way or e w as you see. Oh, my shirts that I wear videos anything. So don't forget, check all those out. Always great content. All those of the platforms that we have assisted channels and don't forget the rise media Inc. Facebook and Instagram. That's our disea- media Inc. Yeah. You can you get me. I'm they're always commenting telling people shut up and amaze, you watch suck. I do all that. Yes, I do. I give references. I give good. Good suggestions, August stuff. I give it but it's been another great episode will see you guys later, Glenn any last words, he lasts words. Besides the last words, eighty shot you would've shot out. Could think of at the moment? Oh my goodness, man. This guy be somebody after you shut out. Eric frankly, going to Japan for some you reinforce. But this gives me over there kicking him in the pants. Liked to me. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. Get a check him out. Check me out stars. Like it's all good stuff. Man. We, we, we out here, blurred nation who we out here. All right. We get you laid.

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Che Fare Quando ti Blocchi in Chat?

Comunicazione Emozionale con Ema

12:02 min | 8 months ago

Che Fare Quando ti Blocchi in Chat?

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Jennifer Doudna and Feng Zhang: The Code of Life

What It Takes

53:06 min | 2 years ago

Jennifer Doudna and Feng Zhang: The Code of Life

"Enough to alter life as we know it it's not hypothetical it's here and it's called Crisper I ask and there's a scientific advancement powerful enough to wipe out genetic disease and frightening as an also in animal models and we're now at a point where several groups are about to begin clinical trials and people it's amazing for doing surgery on DNA and it's basically a way to alter the code of life it's a way to change the DNA sequence is scientists to unlock and unleashed its mysteries turning it into a mighty tool for humans to use two of those scientists breath thousands of words basically now you can go in and take out the misspelled word or in this case include curing sickle cell anemia which is a disease that involves a single a single letter that's that that needs to be reached understand what the DNA code is telling us about the way life is as well as to in the future do things that will sewed of what it takes a podcast about passion vision and perseverance from the Academy of Achievement on analyst and sells so precisely that we can now alter a single letter in the code of a human cell human cell has six billion directed in a single gene of human cell human red blood cell that's something that has already been cured in cells growing in laboratory wondrous life and work of two scientists who figured out how to cut and paste the genome like it was a word document on this individual letters three billion base pairs of those letters we can change a single one for this technology and and do other things as well so I think that this has given scientists a way to rewrite DNA that provides opportunities both for fundamental research. And how do you describe to the layperson what Chris Burton right well crisper is really a you know it's a fabulous tool letter that's gone awry either one seven thousand genetic diseases were we have identified that genetic cause and so aw but like an apple crisper is actually a miraculous product of nature it's found in certain bacteria and it just took so that's correct yes the ideas that you can actually correct a disease causing rotation even something as small as a single probably correct disease causing mutations create plants that are better adapted to their environments and many other things so once we have a book what's the most exciting applications well there's many you know but I think the ones that are probably closest along are the implications of crisper are so significant will just be scratching the surface here but to give you to kind of goofy example once we know what is wrong with the way then ideas let's go into those cells and fixing reverted back to would healthy Calama- ths into elephants so what is crisper exactly a little history may help three decades ago some nitz woven into them that belonged to invading viruses it turns out the bacteria were hoarding the snippets of DNA if someone has a heart problem we can fix that the heart cells someone has a liver problem then we fix the cells in the liver are fung Zhang and Jennifer Dowden they are leaders of this biological revolution and they are the subject of today's show people have in there and this is where gene editing comes in a has the potential to allow us to go into different tissues D- with undamaged DNA turns out it wasn't that hard and wasn't expensive either which meant it could be done by a pig into a micro pick the size of a cap at another lab they're using crisper to introduce the DNA of extinct lots of people in lots of places which is where the big comes in profound potential to help humankind meat imitate the bacteria's brilliant immune mechanism so that they could cut damaged DNA with Ninja like precision and replace it with the quick snip of one gene for size a group of scientists have been able to turn a regular scientists were studying at type of bacteria and they noticed something really weird the DNA of these bacteria had od'd little unclear at this child is gifted and I heard that enough that I started to believe if you have the opportunity not a perfect opportunity at Berkeley in May of two thousand eighteen the interviewer was Mary Jordan a correspondent for the Washington Post they started their conversation talking about dowd nece fascination with nature when she was growing up in Hilo Hawaii when you were young and growing up the thing that happened to quite regularly and my dad also loved reading all kinds of things outside of his specialty including about science time called cast nine that's the super simplified version of course but the important thing is that around two thousand ten two thousand eleven to this it could prevail over the truth darkness over light there overlay every day I wake up and decide today I'm going to love my life oh why sleeping grass closes when you touch it what's going on with the chemistry there I wondered about I would walk on lava rock and I would see so that if the viruses dared to come back the bacteria would recognize them and disabled their DNA by cutting it with an enzyme I think I was in middle school I was twelve or thirteen and what was fascinating about it. I was so captivated by the story of discovering the experiences that you know look for you don't plan for the boy you better not miss him not was Henry David Thoreau and so we had multiple copies of Walden around our house and people reading Walden at various dinner tables that was in twelve Jennifer Dowden and fung in their respective labs were having a ham moments that just maybe they could I mean as a as a you know a growing living thing that was created by people rather than you know when you're in grade school you have science tech the means for me that was that was the first time that I had a sense of science as a as a process gazillion recently called her one of the one hundred most influential people on the planet she was interviewed by the Academy of Achievement at her lab ethical land mine but we'll get back to that after we get to know our scientists a bit better i Jennifer Dafna time history right so books were big deal your house books are big deal we allow those yeah my dad was his special print from lava I'm other parts of the island there must be different chemistry going on there I was always thinking about the chemistry under it and your father tied American literature and your mother on the sugar cane fields in Hawaii and allow Iraq to remember some of the first questions you wanted to answer all the so many I mean I wondered why interesting to me but when I read the Double Helix that was the first time it had the sense of being a sleuth you're on a on a trail you're hunting something down you're trying to figure some she was very good at helping us kids understand the process of doing science the science experiments you ask a question not and you don't take it you may have another child it always so clear it was just like the picture started to form itself that was new we reach allies books that at least in my day were pretty cut and dried in science was seemed kind of boring it seemed like memorizing a lot of facts and I it didn't seem all that in structure DNA was so amazed by the possibility that you could as scientists ask a question that detailed and figure out the answer talking about her research into why cells become cancerous it suddenly jelled from me I realized that's what I WANNA do I wanNA figure out hang out and you've got just bits and pieces of data and you've got to try to put a story together that was amazing to me as junior high school You went to here well at the time in high school I had a I had in tenth grade had a fabulous class chemistry class Miss Wong was teacher and the living natural world and so I you know those are just kind of nebulous interests of mine at the time and then when I heard this lecture by a biochemist this and you know James Watson the Double Helix has book about the discovery of DNA structure and and so one of the really cool things for me growing up without even really thinking about it I got exposed to some really interesting science writers people like Louis Thomas You were born in China and I'm curious what brought your family to America somebody mother impossible but even at early age thought him I can do this well I guess it wasn't so much that it was more that when important lecture turned out there was a woman who was talking about why cells become cancerous why do you think that had such an effect on you decide if they're going to break your leg or it's when you go into play stay out of there and then along companies differen- the chemistry of living things I wanNA understand the molecules that go awry in a cell that becomes a cancer cell how does that work and how old were you uh-huh anybody in anybody living that was a female scientists I just didn't didn't know them and so it seemed really exotic to me to first of all education system in China where is mostly based on memorization test taking show so she thought I would really enjoy the education I didn't I didn't really I certainly didn't know any female scientists at that time except you know the famous ones Marie Curie but I didn't who I was probably soon maybe fifteen at the time fifteen sixteen and it was that you other people thought things books written by medical doctors who were sleuthing the cause of disease in patients the double helix how old are you would you read that I was young mother brought him to the US he was a preteen who didn't speak any English but he actually found the transition pretty easy I I'm very fortunate let's see so no no cities what did your parents do my parents are both computer engineers so my mother works on and then you figure out how to answer it in the laboratory and so for me I I became very interested in chemistry but I knew I liked nick high schools and saw that the way that teachers teaching evolved a lot more hands on demonstrations and exercises and that's very different than all these these colors and shapes in the rock and I would wonder why what's there must in a wide wide lava in one part of the island look so different which here and so that's why should decide to stay in brought our whole family over siblings I don't have any siblings I was born Jean the era of one child have a great parents and also I I was very lucky to move to Iowa des Moines where people around as were just very warman and receptive we had American folks who really took in sort of there were computer hardware and my dad was trained as a electrical engineer as I was growing up there were always computers or my parents got me which was held in New York City and it's worth noting here when doctors young was still in high school in Iowa he was a delegate to the Academy of Achievement that experience taught me psychiatric disease is very much illness is not as physical as diabetes or or heart disease that summit where he was inspired by the great achievers in attendance that was in the year two thousand soon after he went to college where he studied Kim the holidays be a part of their family and and that that was very special it wasn't it wasn't so difficult because the people were so warm and you had this little chill thinking that would be really weird and wild to become a scientist I wonder if I could really do that. Good friends experienced episode of psychiatric disease and before then psychiatric sociology and so before then I'll see this lecture by a woman scientists and secondly to think to myself how I wonder if I could do that wonderful I could be a scientist and I still remember thinking sure came to the US I her own she was a visiting scholar at a university and I think during her time here she had a chance to visit one of the local also there was enormous excitement enthusiasm for developing science using technology as a way to to events the country when function is on in science fiction and kind of growing up in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s in China it was right after reforming opening and on their time in and waste the resources of the world either contribute to build something so when I went to Graduate School I I think my understanding psychiatric disease was very similar to what people have which is that it's not really a disease someone everybody mystery in physics and then went on to get a PhD in chemistry but always with an eye toward working in biology well this fall he institute of Harvard Mit in Dr Zang's case but this is the last time you'll hear me mention the topic in this episode because well the other couples who I call them my American grandfather's in American grandmothers and they they have over for dinner or have come to the house back to the academy as one of the great achievers to inspire the next generation while Israeli Peres always emphasize for me not only started to learn how to apply what I knew to neuroscience but also figure out how to ask important questions and to be of the a protracted legal battle still underway as I record this episode over at the patents for Crisper technology a battle between the has a bad day once in a while and if you just get a good night's sleep or be stronger you can overcome it but when I started my lab at Yale but Berkeley came calling in the early two thousands and she couldn't resist the idea of working for a public universe story to other podcasters now back to both our scientists and what brought them to their hominids Jennifer Dowden ahead started lap at Yale in the nineteen nineties to study the origin of life on earth and determine what role aren a might have played in it do something useful you know you have one life and you should make something out of that that live to make it useful don't don't just score formations in bacteria crisper I guess I should explain is an acronym for the formation it stands for clustered regular institutions that Jennifer Dow DNA and functioning worked for that would be the University of California in Dr Dowden case and the road it could resolve one hundred different ways and anyway our podcast is about the lives of inspiring people will leave the legals Rene when I was growing up and learning biology was we were taught it was kind of a boring molecules just sort of a throwaway a copy of parts of the DNA in the cell figured out how the bacterial cells that have crisper find cut and destroy the DNA of an attacking virus using R. N. A. and the protein casts nine. You can see how the excitement of discovery can you unwelcoming Fung Zhang was interviewed by Gail I can go for the Academy of Achievement at the Academy's two thousand Nineteen International Summit taking me because they didn't have the right background and one of the neurosciences there decided to take a chance and that was Carl Dicey Wrath and so working quickly started working to understand crisper and eventually she collaborated with the French scientist Emanuel Sharpen Thier and together they versity with the diversity of students it drew and it was there at Berkeley that she I heard about crisper these mysterious DNA the beginning path you'll hear more from this conversation and from Jennifer Dowd nece momentarily but first there's something I want to get out of the way there is I realized that I really wanted to study the brain and that's for a number of reasons but one of them was because when I was in college one of my very league inter spaced Short Pailin dramatic repeats C. R. I. S. P. R. Well Jennifer Dow DNA and by the time I got to graduate school because I was enrolled in the chemistry PhD program Most of the neuroscience professors were not interested in Dr Martin had showed how the system could be programmed and also how we could simplify it compared to what nature had done we turned it into us student in my lab who is now a now studying for his MD PhD but he at the time he was working in our research lab here at UC Berkeley and he remind go back and just tell us how you were feeling when you realize the potential of what you were doing what what does that feel like a cell and and this student of mine whose name is per shots of reminded me of day when he came in the lab to do his do that doesn't do that and if it does how does it work and he was doing experiments to answer that question and he eventually figured out MM component system just one type of Rene and one protein were necessary for this aren't a guided DNA cutting reaction but in fact it turned out that are molecules do a lot of very interesting things in biology and I had gotten drawn into that field in Grad school and continued working on it that this system could be programmed literally with different segments of RNA. That have the same sequence of chemical letters that Carl we began to work on this and Carl enormously inspired eighty and and visionary figure so working with him I work chemistry to happen and I think for us that was really that that that precious email from Shauna bought reminded me of that you know one of those match those letters. Da that's a that's what allows it to be programmed to find and cut DNA at a particular place in is experiments and he saw the martinet leaning over a light box in our lab which was a way of visualizing the data from one of Martin's experiment those kind of moments that we all live for scientists where you make a discovery that you realize is profound in a way you know it's much bigger handed me of a wonderful day when I was which in retrospect is wonderful at the time it was just you know business as usual we were I was in the lab with a lab member mind Martin Eunuch who is the person who was doing work on a protein called cast nine part of the crisper system we call it crisper cast nine and making scientific development altogether when he heard about crisper for the first time something called upto genetics what is octo genetics were you in one of those moments well recently I had or fairly recently I had a had a wonderful email from a former well you know whether we really did that is how debate and the reason I say that is because knowing martinet you know he he's we were trying to figure out how it worked it was pretty clearly an Ra guided enzyme that could find and cut DNA and the question was how does it each cell does in this complicated organ and so one way or the study that is if we can stimulate individuals to see what happens we stimulated within the experiment began it's something that could have big implications because of the way it works and so you do high five each other in the lab author genetics is a way to do that and and we used it to study different brain circuitry Maldives sleep in arousal Memory off so opt to genetics is a way to do that with light yeah by by shining light on different parts of brain we can be I if people wanNA start a working on this episode if they'd heard of it one of my friends said isn't that a kind of apple no I've got to do another control and I've got to repeat that experiment let's before we get excited let's make sure fungi was working on another ground is your said it's in the brain you can't see it CNN we don't understand it and that's why there are so many misunderstandings say wanted to city neuroscience are speaking to each other and genetics is being used for treatment not just for research for example in in a patient who has you say you luminated off the cell's brain but only the ones I engineer to be able to respond to that illumination we'll get we'll get modulated we can stimulate one-cell than we can ask questions like what is the cell say to the next cell and when that signal goes across in turn their activities on or turn their functions off and and start a figurehead brain works it's been transformative for people who research brain function function of the body and does it cause you to not walk normally or does it interfere with memory formation and so so table to modulate brain cell function we can start to understand what is Brian Signal what what is the language that these cells since in which we were just looking at each other and you know high fiving and we were just so excited and why it was because that was the first experiment where what does that tell the body to do and you can also do the experiment where you turn a sell off and see how does that interfere with some he's a very subdued individual he you know he's very scholarly he you would always try to get very excited about things and he would always tell her now we have to wait light on the challenge was sitting in the brain is the brain is very dense there many different types of cells and it's hard to know what sells what is the technology that that we developed when when I was in Carl's lab and is a way to control brain cells by Shannon and and and now of course many other scientists are using it to city all aspects of reinfection modulating brain cells means turning them on or turning them brain's big network of cells they're connected with each other and oneself sentencing to another and then that cell releasing though to yet more cells so and or the other but because Brian so you have to have a way to control specifically cells in by making sells licenses Zien away to modulate down the amount activity you can start to have the person or health have less tremor this is this is there is a particular region of the brain called the Salami nucleus would be sending too much activity and so by to get that type of specificity control one cell type believing the other cell types untouched you have to be able to use genetic manipulation conducted directly into vision that you want to stimulate so then the final one was how do you control specific set of selves benefiting from but in order to apply this approach to treating other neurological diseases when to figure out what part of rain AH small very thin electrical wire in that region of the brain and the stimulating and those cells and we stimulate you can a mirage in the desert that turns out to really be water there was crisper waiting for him to dive into when he arrived at Mit really not responsive to light and that was done by engineering Microbial proteins from from algae pulse come to make to those into pre in how we get back to crisper well Gal I can tho asked function exactly that question that's a good question when I was to engineer the type that you want to control to carry on this this algae protein and that can be done using genome editing If you shine light from outside the brain it doesn't get in and so what we came up with was a method to use a tiny fiber optic cable we can start to figure that out and that can form new a new treatment approaches right about now you're probably wondering why we went down this octo genetic rabbit hole skills there's already one form of brain modulation Therapy is called deep brain stimulation and the way this is done is by implanting but around the When I was working genetics genome editing was still in the early days say it wasn't so easy to do and and it would be difficult to use gene editing too correct correct that mutation not because we can't do it in individual cells but because it would be hard to correct so turn them off and so this is one way that how do you more than ten thousand maybe almost one hundred thousand patients are already replaced and that can be done in a way where those cells then take over the blood supply in person and replace the cells that are defective with cells that are corrected in probably by the time I was graduating from PhD degree? I thought this is the remaining challenge that I wanted to solve and that led me to Working on genome editing and tissues and the reason that sickle cell anemia is one of the first targets clinically is because cells could be edited outside the body and then Brecqhou bracket to these are these are mutations well known to correlate with a high risk for breast and ovarian cancers in women right now tools these are various thin as a piece of hair and you can implant that into a region in the brain and the you connect the other end to a laser so that live in the brain there are many different types of cells so when people say brain cells or neuron they don't mean a senior title is how many different kinds of cells so all the women that we know that that carry a gene that makes them more likely to have breast cancer. Can you edit that out taught genetics there were three Major problems the first problem is how do we make resells sensitive to light because brain cells a fairly smooth journey in your career at toward these greater innovations. Have you also had setbacks times when you were frustrated analogy into the clinic already human patients have being in clinical trials have been treated with crisper and addition though to the human medical applications crisper is a very general technology that can be used in all living systems so there's when you to modulate where which part of brain is a signal not going through properly and using genetics as a technique cold temperature resistant and to Maytham more sustainable From the use of fertilizers and and other types of nutrients I fos foster NASA very low Jennifer Dow DNA like fung puts collaboration and the scientific process of discovery high on her list of what is most set up his lab. The water was so deep if I may continue the metaphor that his work continued well beyond what he needed for opt of genetics so a lot of crisper work going on in agriculture we engineered crops to Maytham require less water to make them more I think as scientists we face Bax an experimental problems all the time but I think what is important are two things one of moments when I'm not in the lab you know when I'm doing something else I'm thinking about something else seemingly and suddenly think wait a minute this would be he's gardening or going out into the woods one hundred percent hundred percent I have found that I tend to have my best ideas and created on and envisioning solutions intesting them that process is hugely enjoyable and second I work alone I work with me and I enjoy the process of doing science it's not just getting to the result but the process of thinking about the problem dissecting the problem and when I first heard about crisper and learn that crisper can cut the A and potentially be used for Genome Eddie I thought if we can it is into a robust tool and then one day we can develop therapies based on it and and and nowadays there many researchers are advancing the did in every cell of the body so I think that's that's frankly one of the current challenges with the technology is just delivering it into cells and worked with a wonderful scientist Jack Shostak and that's how I felt about him I felt like the thing that he had so wonderfully any other partners colleagues collaborators my own students and postdoctoral fellows and we're a team we are together working to try to solve some of the I guess I guess what's striking to me it's so varied people are buried you have people from around the world young old Yuck yeah but experiments to do he knew the right questions to ask he didn't know the answers because that's why we do science but he knew the right ones to ask and I always thought to myself gosh if I could a really cool thing to do in the lab and also find that a lot of times I you know I'll especially if I've been relaxing a little bit or just you know not not focusing it's those moments that will stimulate a creative new idea I'll wake up in the morning thinking about our science all suddenly think oh wait there's something really interesting he satisfying about the work and all that work doesn't just happen in the lap she says plenty of does of course but some of it happens when she I I think that I always sort of had a knack for for experimental science sells and be able to turn his house on then the second challenge was how do you politely into the brain animals have a skull and so is frigerator a warm room where you're going bacteria and you have the shakers these you know it's it's not a if I could bottle that up somehow you know figure out what that is and I never imagined that people would see me that way but it's a feeling that I have about both the questions that I want to try to answer that I think are important are we should pursue that people can see your lab because it's so sophisticated an interesting you've got people in ski jackets in the in nitrogen and so so that will have enormous implications for farming and and and our bills feed the growing population it sounds like watch you think that's fair I got so interesting that you say that because or that people say that because I have to say when I was in graduate school I points a setback much more tolerable because we just say let's just move on and and we'll come up with a different solution you're not suffering alone can you have a vision of a map puts it look like just tell me a little bit more about what's in your head no it's not really visual it's not it's not celebrated scientists Nobel laureate he wants described me as somebody who had a map in her head of experiments that Oh pulling together and I think when people talk about you they say that she knows what to work on the golden the challenges and that Team Spirit and team approach is is both we mutually inspire each other but also it makes these that makes me that makes me sad and I think that for me these prizes are a way of acknowledging the value that thing I could draw on a piece of paper it's more AH process in a way right it's a sort of it's almost like a flow chart right it's sort of thinking eight that is how my mind works I hadn't really thought about it before that's fascinating can you tell me so is it literally wake up or your cooking or and you it would be great to help us out in this other thing that person over there would be a great collaborator because they know how to do something that we don't know how to do that kind of thing right putting so I we all of us you know get from from science the importance of making fundamental discoveries you know I think that for academic the fundamental joy of discovery in the power of science to advance our our society but it's time to address the elephant in the room or the mammoth as the case may be that power to advance society can be a double-edged sword and certainly is in the case I guess the best thing about them for me is that it's a way of saying to students and to kind of our society in general students and every now and then I think it's nice that prizes are there to sort of say hey let's step out of the lab for a minute let's just celebrate so far is that I've seen a kind of a a disagree growing distrust of science and scientists and scientists you know it's a it's a challenging job we work very hard were not paid you know like the and and I'll start thinking about how to you know how to logistically how to get all the pieces to this person would be good at doing this one thing this other person over here others that they warned the world about its use having the power to potentially control how we evolve Jennifer Dowden even wrote a book called a crack in creation gene editing and the unthinkable it we value science and that we value scientists. I think that that's one of the things that I've been sad about over my career is where to be done and could sort of see a whole process and somehow when he said that about me that I kind of realized Gosh I think he's or to do those experiments I love doing fun you want so many words and you have many people hope and it's like a flow chart and it's sort of there's a logic there right and then I'll think okay and if we want to do that experiment I know we need these controls so that we can interpret the data and I think in the coming years we'll find out how effectively the system can work and how many of these is apply this to how will soon win the Nobel these words what is the best thing about them for you well okay well if we do you know if we want to figure this out we could do this and then this and then if we and then depending on how that works out we can do this or this you know that kind of thing right ashes a complicated issue because science is global of course and people are working you know in every part of the world now using crisper cast nine technology as well as the technology outpacing our our collective ability to understand the you know the implications on work for some period of time you know either a little vacation or or even just taking a day off of work or spending time on the weekends going for a hike I'll often it was hard to was kind of one of those genetic y you know hard to put your finger on it sorts of traits is that he had that quality felt he he knew he knew the radio edit in something right that maybe there's collateral damage or shutter tended consequences what are you most worried about well it might surprise CBS of companies by any stretch and you know and I think you have to you have to do this job because you love it you would love the science and you loved as well as the way to go about doing that and I once heard my my post doc adviser Tom Check another very wonderful many other technologies and how do we how do we create a A regulatory framework that people will honor in these different jurists of the crisper technology that Jennifer Dowden and functioning have helped adapt for human use it's extremely unsettling to both scientists it's pretty scary I mean this is where you've also been a leading voice kind of if you can edit out a disease you could also uh-huh that hope to use this in the future or agricultural scientists who want to use it implants and other other types of applications evolved in convening meetings around this and fortunately I think that idea has has really spread in the genome editing field to include I see maybe but the thing I I feel most worried about today is really just the I worry about the pace to address that is it again in some ways to you know what we saw with Dolly the sheep cloned is even more significant because would power to control evolution the back of the book says not since the atomic bomb as technology so alarmed it's invent changing DNA that can be ferreted in future generations and this is something called germline editing if we change germ cells again with the F. In my view it really does have to begin with kind of a grassroots effort you know it has to begin with scientists coming together and discussing these topics and I've been in you can you can make a drought resistant plant and save people from dying hunger so with such upside howdy really yeah it's very very good it does and and but what I mean by that is that I think that you know for scientists to race ahead to do things that we can do but what is potentially possible is once we understand enough about how our genome works with don't understand it right now because if we want especially with respect to genome editing prior to just rushing forward with the technology while we've seen that happen already many technologies later people these people who actually have the mutation are immune to HIV infection and that's because the mutation removes one of the Ride with whether or not they could they can start to think it's really that it's wanting to make sure that scientists are thinking about the implications of their work now people not not just scientists but also people that are stakeholders whether they be You know patients with genetic diseases or clinician no the privacy issues or that you can heck this election on yeah so in this case yeah when there's such upsides visuals that could become a serious problem because you never know with certain virus epidemic comes comes about and so playing with biology is the to make a baby more intelligent where she don't know how to do it but it risk is that some people may think they know how to do it and they'll go ahead and do that risk and so while we don't have a West Nile virus epidemic if you proceed in and MTV put his patient into a

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The following program is coarse language and adult themes listener discretion is advised. Take a breath not gonna do. This is came in on doing what you do rick. You're my favorite holiday favorite Pie have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass all bumps. It's time to hear the truth about america's biggest challenges. You're listening to america off the rails with your host rick robinson allen. Just what sater's guess. What they it is anybody. It is wednesday. The program. Ladies and gentlemen i am rick robinson. This is america off the rails. Were live right here on kayla radio. America's podcast network. Sorry for the lead starts still kicking off after taking a break for a while. Oh and yeah. So how's everybody been it's been this is what second show in two months because yeah anyway. Now i'm going to go into it again but But yeah trying to get things trying to get used to doing things again. Get back notice. Winger things there for a while. I was putting up twenty hours of radio week. And i'm lucky if i can put together to your anyway so there's that so. Yeah other than that. I've been watching the world's only burn one of my biggest issues in one of the things that made it so hard for me to get back into. This is because i've been warning about what we're watching happening right now for nearly fourteen years. Nobody wanted to listen to me. Anybody they did listen to me. It was basically preaching to the choir kind of like most folks in the chat room. Y'all y'all knew what was coming because you've been listening for a long time for for for pretty much. Anybody okay radio we will all been saying the same thing you know when kayla radio has been around for a while before then when when we were running under canine talk. We were talking about this stuff that is going on right now and kept telling everybody this is going to happen. It's going to happen eventually. The listen to this is what's going to happen and now we're watching it happen. They have literally put a vegetable in charge of the united states of america. And the funniest thing is all these people all social media home. My god did you can you. Can you imagine now when we go on when we have our president over on foreign soil morons anymore when you had when we have our president on foreign soil. It's going to be weekend at bernie's the international edition dude is barely hear. Her doesn't even know what he's doing. I mean even before. I went on break. I mean there were audio clips. That were coming out before before i took my hide. Is there were audio clips. That were coming out of him. Sitting there with base stacks of stuff on the desk. I don't even understand what i'm saying. Thank them sailing it. What the hell did he just say. Why would you. Why would you even say that out loud. This is just terrible in so the other thing is just going to say this. We were right. Your friendly neighborhood conspiracy theorists ten right for all of two thousand twenty because everything that we told you twenty twenty. The media kept telling you was a lie there now like oh maybe it was true after all. So they've they've recanted the wuhan virus theory about possibly coming from a lab. You now had them walking back. To the only reason they cleared the dc square was so president trump. Go for a walk. It's because they were trying to put a fencing. We told you guys that over a year ago. Just every time i turn around. There's something else that has been about a year and you'll you'll see it trickle out. It's usually on like a friday when nobody's paying attention. It's like oh well. Yeah so this might have been true after all. I mean i talked about this a little bit last hour. I give it six months to a year and there's going to be a that gets leaked out somewhere on like you know back page or whatever worst possible as you could send something out by the way we now have verifiable proof that the election was stolen guys i just i really am trying to get back into the swing of but after being unplugged from this mess in this nightmare for most of the last three months and spending time with my kids and my grandkids and making sure that their life is as close to normal as possible. Everything's been going on. I just i keep looking at it going. Do i really need to dive back into this. And that that's also where i am as of right now and that's part of the reason why it's been hard for me to restart this because i keep looking at everything and i'm like you know i've been doing this for fourteen years. Do i really need to keep banging this drum and don't get me wrong. The reason we're having this conversation with you is because this is something that i'm literally fighting with right now because i'm you know i'm spending a lot of time with my kids and grandkids. I'm closer to my kids. Probably than i ever have been because you know before they had a mom and step. Mom was picking up a lot of the load while i was off doing what i was doing. Trying to build a radio career trying to work forty hours a week and everything else and now i'm just like you know have. Is it time to hang it up and that. Don't misunderstand me that that. That's not what i'm announcing tonight. I'm just do this. This is actual basically stream-of-consciousness moment because this is what i've been wrestling with for about the last month because i just don't know anymore i mean have have i done enough. Is there more than i still need to do. These are the things that. I'm asking myself on a daily basis. Because honestly with that i'm trying i mean right now is much as i have my life back in order. I literally feel like one of the guys in his variety shows. That's like trying to spend plates. Know what i'm talking about the polls there's been placed in running back and forth trying to keep them on the air. That's literally what. I have felt like since january six months later i finally feel like i have a lot of my life back in order but at the same time as much as i miss doing this. Is there enough time in the day. And i figure it out is the zero way for me to go back to doing almost twenty hours a week of this kind of work on top of working forty hours a week plus having to keep the house running and make sure the bills are paid. Make sure the kids are okay. And i mean yes. Most of my kids are adults but some of them are special needs so they do require a lot of attention. I have a full-time grandchild in the house. Most weekends i have more than one grandchild than the house. And i wouldn't have it any other way so i'm just i'm trying to figure out how to make it all work. Which is part of the reason why you guys haven't seen or heard much from me lately and i know the us only teasing me in the chat. But i just want to be honest with you. That's why i haven't been. Here's lot 'cause. I don't want to be because i'm not sure i can be anymore. Not in the way. That i was before and i just don't know i'm trying to figure it all out. What is inspiring me and pushing me to the point where i really do want to get back into it. And this is the flip. Side of the coin is watching. All of these stories started coming out that we were right about six twelve eighteen months ago and the media is finally telling the truth. And i'm like we did this months ago. Where were you guys months ago. We did this year ago. Where were you guys a year ago and and again this is just the evolution of my thought process over the last few months in the last few weeks because i really thought about hanging it up you know the team has done a great job keeping things running while i've been doing when i had to do so it's not like this is going to go anywhere and that's honestly been one of my thoughts. Is you know they have done a really good job. Keeping it running. And do i really have to do what i was doing before. But you know the more. I think about it. The answer is yes. Because it's what i wanna do and that that's the thing that i keep coming back to. Yes right now. I'm having to pull in a forty hour a week job while i try to build this but at the end of the day. This is what i want to do. A may only way that. I'm gonna be able to get to that. Point is to keep pouring is much time into it as i can and perfecting it and building it and making it as good as a camby and again this is just me literally having this conversation with you right now. This isn't even when i plan on talking about tonight. But i'm i'm just letting you guys know where my head has been because i was this close to hang it up. I mean my my my wife left my world fell apart. I felt like i had nothing left to hold onto. And then i realized you know as time went on my life really didn't change all that much. I'm never be the you know everybody's like oh you have adult children. That still live at home in their special needs. Isn't that hard you know. Maybe their days when struggle. But you know what you don't want to figure out because of that. I'm not alone right now and i've got to be honest if if there was a time when all of this started where i had been been able to be left alone. I probably wouldn't be here today. I'm just going to be honest. i'm just as honest as i can. Nba december thirty first. Twenty twenty. When i found out my wife was not coming home my middle children and my granddaughter were over at my oldest daughter's house my son was supposed to go to his girlfriend's house for new year's eve. My son being a lot like me could figure out that there was just something that wasn't right with me because i plan on it as soon as he was out of the house and i think he knew because he wouldn't leave. That's the place that i was in seven months ago and now looking back. I'm really glad that i didn't do that. But at the same time it's it's been a struggle to figure out how it is that. I'm supposed to do what i've always done. Which is to try to tell you guys what i think about the things that are going on so the you can decide what you wanna do with information that i'm providing you and it's been really hard to do that because my confidence has been shaken in ways that i never thought possible. That's the other reason. Why for the last several months. I've just unless there's co host or somebody to talk with. I haven't done it because the holies wins this. And i don't want to keep doing this but at the same time i have to get i. I have to figure out do this again and adjust and just don't know. I don't know how we fix this mess and i don't know how to talk to you about how we fix this because the process me trying to help fix this mess everything else got destroyed and i know it's not trust me i have. I have basically done a post mortem on the last twenty two years of my life and i know at this point. It's not anything that i did as much as you wanted me to think. It was and as much as she basically told me. Apart on the way out the door and made me feel like i was the worst thing ever. I know now that it wasn't me. And that's part of the reason. Why i'm having this conversation with you because i feel like i have to because at need you guys to understand why i have been gone. I had to figure out. I had to figure out who i was. Because for the longest for twenty two years the only thing that i that i ever had as a benchmark to tell me who i was was husband. Father business owner employee podcasts radio personality. I had all of these social and societal norms. That would tell me that. Told me who i was and the biggest part of that was ripped away for the several months. I've had no idea who i was. I had no reference points because all of a sudden i went from being. Someone's husband to fuck you. And i didn't know what to do with. I spent twenty two years pouring everything. I had in that relationship and i have nothing to show for it now. Nothing say nothing. I guess really i mean i have a bony son who for probably only the fifth time in our relationship introduced muses father the other day because i always told him because that was the thing when he was a kid. You know it was always. Every new boyfriend was dead. And that's the first thing i told her. I said you're not doing that with me. I said if if this works he when he's old enough if he wants to call me he called me dead. But you're not gonna make him. Call me dad so i never did. Most of the time. I'm just brick and then like i said for the fifth took probably the fifth time in twenty two years. I got introduced at the birthday party of the day. This is my dad. Rick and that was when i realized that i'm i'm gonna be okay because even though she's you on the relationships that i fought with everyone else in that family are still just as strong if not stronger than they were and she's going to have to figure out things on our own and that's one of the reasons why over the last week or so of really just started sitting down and thinking i'm like how can i make this work. How can how. Can i do everything that i have to do. On the daily now and still do this too. And what i figured out is. I don't care if it means. I go back to sleep in two hours a day until i figure it out. That's what i'm gonna do. Because i need to do this long to do. I need to do this. I miss you even though every single one of you has been giving me crap. I miss you. I miss interacting with you every day. Twitter missing on the chat rooms and at the same time. Why am i not doing it. Because the whole reason i cut back before was because i had somebody that was constantly. You're spending too much time doing podcasting. And you don't have anything to show for it and you need to be spending time with be needed to do this. I don't have to deal with that anymore. So why the hell am i not doing again. Just stream-of-consciousness put out there. That's this is where i've been for the last few months because i'll vacillate between do. I really need to get back into doing it too. Whether ella might not doing it and why they shouldn't i do it back to do. I really need to do it and honestly again most of us just because the news really pisses me off. I don't. I don't miss having to spend so many hours in a day ingesting idiocy. Because i haven't had to do that for a while. Part of the reason why. I had no idea what i'm talking about tonight. Because it used to be easy the blaze in a couple of things. I can talk about this. This really awful them up on my yali. Release anything cool either. I don't know what's going on with the blaze. the last couple of that pulled it up. It's like they have like the same six stories recycled on their homepage. And i'm like you just posted that one way up there. Why is it back out here. Can you give me a new story but anyway Yeah so you guys know where where my head's at which is all over the place figured it out so i do plan on getting america off the rails running again at least two nights out of the week. Starting next tuesday. I plan on hopefully having jenin rick back on next tuesday. We had planned on starting that and both last tuesday and tuesday. Unfortunately last tuesday. June had a family emergency and this tuesday because she'd been so busy dealing with t-ball and everything else you forgot what day of the week it was and i'm like you know what we've barely months. I'm gonna be mad at you so Let's just you next week and then i'm still trying to confirm what stacey when she wants to bring back the daily dose Reached out to her this week. And i haven't heard from her yet but i i am one way or the other at least getting back to do it as much as i can while i figure the rest of it out because because i just i feel like i have to. I mean somebody's gotta do and y'all amy now torment you as much as possible. All right. we're gonna take a quick break while i get things reset and figure out what we're going to talk about for the next segment anyway. Let me just a moment here because nothing working. Because i talked so long. The mouse went to sleep. All right. we're going to take a break. We'll be right back. Stay tuned you. You are listening to k. l. r. n. Radio liberty. an reasons still ring. hi. I'm jay farner. Ceo of quicken loans. America's largest mortgage lender. 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Visit fatherhood dot gov brought to you by the us department of health and human services and the ad council jail in radio has advertising rates available. We have rates to fit. Almost any budget contact us at advertising at k. l. r. radio dot com great and. Welcome back into the program. Ladies and gentlemen again. I am robinson. This is america off the reels. You're listening to his live on radio. We are americans podcast at work. Hand has been awhile since. I've had to say about four and a half. I hope everybody's enjoy your wednesday night. Thank you so much for joining us on. Chat lives matter are g likes to grand slam of conservative talk radio and so keeping the the show going. Here i just. I don't sorry. I'm having a moment i really am because i just keep saying all these things flash across the screen. That are things that we talked about over a year ago. We were told we were totally crazy. That's just like i saw another another story talking about now. The effectiveness of hydra hydroxychloroquine and how actually works. And i'm like so. Trump wasn't a liar after all is what you're saying and it wasn't trump's fault at some woman tried to feed her now. I think he's aquarium greener. Because it had a similar sounding agree ingredient in. If that wasn't an excuse to bump off your husband having gone through a divorce now second divorce if with solar processing and one not quite finished up again there if that was an excuse to try to get rid of your husband than i was so many things that i've seen come across the news and i'm like you know what we were talking about this stuff year ago and the media was those crazy and now that it doesn't matter anymore than he's like. Oh by the way this baby comfortable lab. We're pretty sure it. There's a reason when. Stacy and i i started the boarding show. It was making fun of the fact that everyone knew. It came from a lab china. But nobody wanted to talk about it. Look that's just commonsense so explain this to me just from a common sense perspective but let's just break down this one thing because now that it's starting to come out. I'm just weren't you really just not paying any attention. You cannot tell me that china did not know that. It came from something that they were working on. You know how. I know that they knew because they blocked everyone for mulan province going anywhere else inside of china but it was fine for them to leave the country. Explain that to me so you know that they're sick enough that you don't want them going anywhere else inside china but let's believe but again tell me tell me. It wasn't on purpose now remember. And they're the reason. I'm saying this look you know what i'm just going to say it. These are the same people that have put formaldehyde in dog food. There's so many things that chinese done to try to see. If they can figure out ways to kill us to injure us and hurt people and her pets and everything else for the last several years. You really expect me to believe that. It wasn't on purpose because it was. Do you know why it was because again. If they weren't trying to infect anyone else why did they keep them from travelling anywhere else inside of china but allow the people that they knew had been exposed to leave that area and go elsewhere it. Nothing else makes any sense. And if you don't believe china's evil just ask because now she's being fetching budget here which i find absolutely hilarious just for the record but yeah i mean so so so. That's come out then. Of course you know warning. I talked about the other story in a last hour about them. Basically stating that you know. We now know for sure that the square wasn't cleared because of donald trumps walk. It was being cleared because they wanted to put up. Barricades in extra fencing and blah blah. Then there's i mean there's just it just every time i shouldn't around there's something else that comes out this like. Oh we've been saying that for eighteen months again. I just i feel like bruce willis in die hard when he's standing into win standing at the broken window yelling down to the police officers. Welcome to the party pow. The ms like where were you. Where were you before. where were you before. Why we're i mean. look you know. I'm just going to be honest. During the nuremberg trials. The media was put on trial too. You know why because they were found to have been lying to the american relying german public. Then something else that came across my desk today that i really thought was greedy. You know had these tracking tiles now all right. Apparently there have been more and more college age women that have been going out to clubs finding tracking tiles in their purses. So this is just a psa if you are in a club zip your purse up. Please zip it up but it up. What are you gonna do. Because that's just scary to think about because that to me. Sounds like somebody that is that is trying to either stalk you or trying to save the grabby later for some sort of human trafficking craft. And i just i don't have the patience for any of that and it's just dumb. This could be interesting. His seattle police furious finance department. Sins and then to funds all staff email sinden and then defend all staff email calling cops. White supremacist nice. Members of the seattle police department have plenty of reasons to be upset with what's going on in the city for the better part of a year. They've seen anti-police protests filter streets in attacks cops go largely unpunished as calls to defunding the police run out across the city now they have another straw to add to the proverbial camel's back a local radio station exposed a major seattle city departments all staff email demeaning seattle police as white supremacist and when the department was called out for it's a messaging officials defended the screed. Kt saric ath am host. Jason rance greedy rise. Awesome tuesday evening. The text of what he labeled an unhinged email sent to the entire staff of the seattle department of finance and in administrative services or fas by the f. Changed team the message. Written by daniel holmberg af senior management systems analyst was titled white supremacy thrives without consequences in came under the heading black lives matter a message and resources from the chicago team in the email holmberg and is changed team claim. They did not want to paint all police. With a broad brush but they began the message by attacking enforcement generally staining plainly white supremacy is ensconced in american institutions saying. The police served the false gods of widespread rosie and are not worthy of the power. They wield racist cops who extend restraint. Only two white people homeworks. That are no longer guardians. They are mercenaries and zealots. Paid in the wages of white privilege inflicting. They're wicked commandments. See stories like this. Are why what i haven't done radio for a few months. Despite is insistent that he didn't want to taint all cops for this claims holmberg listed a few incidents of reagan. Who wrote this article. Y'all need editor Didn't want to change all cops with his claims. Holmberg listed a few incidents of race related. Incidents should have been either instances or a few race related incidents incidents twice on the editor. America's have seen over the last few years and then insisted that it strains the boundaries of credulity to believe that these are isolated issues confined to a few bad apples. He continued the equity of this phenomenon. Found in all corners of law enforcement reveals a broken culture. A world split into white supremacists. And those who know better but cole along to get along in such a culture good people who stay silent attempt to walk the razors edge between complicity and absolution but it is a failed proposition. Silence is sunlight to this villainy. The full axiom is one bad apple can spoil the barrel and this barrel is writhing in maggots. Ooh that was a visual me. white supremacist or attacked are attracted to a career in law enforcement. He said because they get to use brute force to harmonise string people of color and no. They're thin blue. Line will circle and defend them no matter what. This dude is nuts. Might it be the white supremacy season law enforcement. Its most tangible immediately. Satisfying in most enduring method of harming people of color enforcement provides an ideal habitat for white supremacist a pulpit from which they can level catastrophic harm while enjoying the greatest protection they wear the uniform like camouflage hiding in plain sight. I suspect that. Hold gratitude for the service of anyone. I'm sorry i respect and gratitude for the service of anyone who does so with honor but the dignity and duty espoused by the badge. Do not come with the badge they need to be earned on the back of righteous deeds. We talk about ignorance unconscious bias in the invisible systems. That perpetuate racial inequality or inequity but what about explicit bias. What about intentional premeditated racism that is celebrated and rewarded. This racism cannot be scapegoated to fear or misplaced anger or even economic anxiety. It is a deeply rooted. Marvelously disguised desire to harm. Non white people why supremacists hold positions of authority and influence. They make the arrest and file the reports. They testify as expert witnesses and they control the custody of evidence. Holmberg closed disagreed with advice. For four cops asking you to shoot Guilty white people the way you shoot. In zimbabwe people were asking you to protect black people. The way you protect guilty white people. Did i mention that. I spent the better part of my life wearing a badge in one form or another. And can i just say to this asshole if you if you can hear me at all right now and i hope that somebody who knows you find clip of this sunday and you can hear it fuck right off because you are a deep shit. You have no idea what you're talking about. You are buying into some of the sixteen. Nineteen ninety s says. Well even the bird. Original police department was constructed to be able to to bring back. Bring bring back escaped. Slaves is just the whole police department ideas to continuation of all of that. No it's not so you can shut right the hell up. I'm tired of this. I'm tired of talking about it. And i'm tired of having to deal with it but if you all y'all gonna keep bringing to the table then we'll just gonna sit down. We're going to about tillage off the table. This is bullshit. Cops are not racist. Inherently people are not racist inherently. There are bad people in every profession. The only reason that feels like every cop is racist right now is because the media will not give cops a break. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say this the best way that i know how and tell you have put your until you are in a position where you have to decide whether you're going to go home or the person that you're dealing with is going to go home. You have no right to talk. None zero armchair quarterbacking does not work for police. I don't care who you are. I don't care what you've done. I don't care what kind of training you've had. Armchair quarterbacking does not work for police situations period. End of sentence full. Stop if you think otherwise. Fuck off and turn off the radio done. I am so tired of hearing this. I'm so they're all the bunch racist. I mean look even what. Even one of my favorite shows right now is going down this path. Nathan fillion the rookie. The whole last season has been about you know corrupt cops in racist cops and everything else and i'm just like you know. What does it really have to show up everywhere. Does it absolutely positively have to show up everywhere because it's not as bad as they want you to believe the same now and again. I want you to understand why. I'm saying this because again your friendly neighborhood conspiracy. Theories was right because what are they saying. Fourteen years ago when they started saying only the cops need guns. You don't need them eventually. They're going to tell you the cops are bad or neither. I've been saying that from basically the day that i started the firm because shortly around that time was up at the same time. There's arguments started. Well you know you don't need a gun. Well you know you know how. I wish people up with that argument is. Do you have a fire extinguisher house. Both i have three. Why are you gotta do is call nine one one. Call the fire department. It's not it's the same thing. Yes that's exactly what you're saying. We don't need guns to defend ourselves because that's what we have cops for. So you don't need fire extinguishers Fires out because you fire department. It's the same thing. But i kept telling everybody years ago that once this argument takes hold and they start convincing all these people to start giving up their guns and they start passing all these laws to take away certain guns. The next thing they're gonna do. We started demonizing the police. Demonizing the police. Until they get everybody on board. And they're getting their whether we want to realize it or not. They're getting there because you now have staff members in the seattle city government putting out hate mail about cops through their email server and that saddens me because i i spent a couple of years of my life in seattle have really good friend lives up there and seeing stories like this just break my heart because i was just i was talking about this with the kids the other day at some point i wanna be i wanna be able to take them to some of the places that i grew up in so they can see where i spent some of my time as a child because when my mom remarried she married a guy in the air force and we started moving around over the place so i spent some time in the seattle area i spent some time with the tacoma area. Eventually we moved over to delaware we moved all over the place. And i'm just you know my kids have never seen any of that. They've they've never really seen anything other than oklahoma. Except for when we went to padre a couple years ago and i want to start being able to show them more and i want to start being able to show gracie more but now i'm afraid to go to places like seattle and san francisco. They used to be really beautiful places to go and now they're falling apart and it saddens me and the only reason they're falling apart is because we keep giving idiots like this moron voice. I mean i don't wanna do it but i feel like i have to do it because if he's able to put an email like that basically calling it basically calling every kappen seattle the white supremacist and nobody does anything about it. I'm sorry him to call bullshit bullshit period because it is. I've worn a badge. I've worn a uniform. Most of us get that stuff. It's not because we want to be. We want to be racist. Assholes is because we want to try to keep the wall to wanna make the world a safer place as my granddad always used to say there are three types of people in the world there the wolves they're the sheep and the sheep dogs. Most people wind up in military service in law enforcement careers. Things like that there the sheepdogs to what we do so we are as part of how we're wired. I was explaining this to a to a friend of mine the other day did something you can turn off and it used to drive my wife crazy because she always felt like i was trying to control like i'm not trying to control you. I'm just trying to when you're not home just starting to make sure that you're ok when you when you know. And some in the beginning she appreciated it towards the end. She aided just something. You can't shut off period like to this day. I have to force myself. When i'm sitting in a restaurant or something. If if i if i absolutely can't do it then i will force myself to sit somewhere that i normally wouldn't because when tramp because of the training that i've had i normally do everything i can to avoid ever having my back to a door period. It's like right now. My current studio set and my room is driving me crazy. Because i plan on setting things up in the opposite way. They are but i haven't been able to figure out a way to make it work so right now my back is to my door and i hate that the studio that i used to work at in k- okay see when i said down my back was to the door i hate that is just some in green i have i have to be able to see the entrances from too many years of having keep an eye on things in people. But this whole idea that we're going to start while. I don't want to paint the entire seattle police department with a broad brush. But they're all a bunch of lights for emphasis. That's a pretty broad brush. Their cotton saint anyway. I told you guys it wouldn't be the full hour. I got as close as i could. We've got about nine minutes left. Go ahead and wrap things up. Because i do have other things i need to take care of and honestly i have a beer and a cigar. Call my name. So we're gonna we're gonna. We're gonna call it i. Everybody's having a great wednesday night. Thank you so much for joining us. Or i will be back tomorrow night with jackson physician. We're going to do another. Ufo expose His time talking to you about that earlier because like you know. I kind of feel like i need. We need to do foes again. Because it's been a while. And i was like but i kind of feel like we're we're doing that what he's like. Did art art bell of every done overdone. You foe's neck point. So yeah you of os tomorrow night juxtaposition. Then i will be off again until. Hopefully i hold monday morning. Wednesday's relaunched the daily dose. But i will have to reach back out to her and find out if she still wants to do that or not. But because i have a we've actually had a bunch of false starts with that one. So i think things should be waiting until actually just like caller. Let's get on the radio So we'll see but anyway on that note folks lee are gonna go enjoy the rest of your night. Thank you so much for hanging out. We'll see you guys what we say in the words that bill price esquire and ted theodore logan be excellent. Each other and the words are ric robbins and kick ass and take names bitches. Don't don't don't don't don't know how he giving him over over.

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Montessori At Home & At School - Simone Davies [271]

Mindful Mama - Parenting with Mindfulness

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Montessori At Home & At School - Simone Davies [271]

"So the sensitive periods languages sensitive periods for maths on the sensitive periods for order. And lots of things like this and knowing that your child will come to it. When they're sensitive periods activated means. You can relax and trust that. The child will learn when they're ready. You're listening to the mindful mama. Podcast episode number two hundred and seventy one. Today we're talking about montessori at home and at school with simone davies. Welcome to the mindful mama. Podcast now with over a million dollars here. It's about becoming a less irritable more joyful parent. I'm mindful mama. We know that you cannot give what you do not have and when you've come and peace within then you can give it to your children. I'm your host hunter clark fields. Mindful mama mentor. I helped smart thoughtful. Parents stay calm so they can have strong connected relationships with their children. I've been practicing mindfulness forever. Twenty years on the creator of mindful parenting. And i'm the author of raising good humans. A mindful guide to breaking the cycle of reactive parenting and raising kind confident kids. Hey welcome back to the mindful nama. Podcast my friend. I'm so happy you are here. In just a moment we're going to be sitting down with simone davies author of the montessori toddler and the blog and podcast. The monastery notebook and simone runs parent-child monetary classes in amsterdam at her school jack rhonda tree montessori. And she's the mother to two young adults. And i'm so excited to talk to you about this. Because my kids have been in montessori schools all the way through their education now my oldest daughter nagy is now in eighth grade in a public. Charter montessori school. That i was on the board. The founding board for and so it's a free public montessori school here in the state of delaware the first one and it's such a powerful system of education that i learned about in my education courses in grad and montessori. Is you know it's this innovative education modality that puts this great emphasis on preparing the environment to help children succeed. And then they follow children sensitive periods for more individualized learning. So if you were ever a situation where you're like you know you were obsessed with one thing as a kid learning one thing. Monetary really capitalizes on that and helps children to go. Further and faster with the things that they are in a sensitive period for which is really cool they have prepared some amazing creative thinkers who can really take a project from start to finish including jeff bezos founder of amazon larry page and sergey brin founders of google gabrielle garcia marquez. The famous author helen. Keller so we want to bring a little bit of that power into our own homes and today. We're going to talk about how to do that. And the whole mindset shifts that are involved in montessori helping to create connection how to create confident respectful kids and how to basically not kill your your kids joy of learning. And we're going to talk about how to bring this into your home which is so so cool and important and it makes such a big difference in kids level of cooperation. So i think you are going to love this episode before we dive in. I want to let you know that. I i love being able to offer this podcast. But the people help the most are those that joined mindful parenting. Someone asked me recently. Like why is this different. Can i just read your book. And there's this big difference between free content like low cost content like a book and then investing in making a difference with something that's a higher investment like the mindful parenting membership. So like when it's free basically you have zero accountability. There's too much information so we ended up like stressed and struggling because we don't have a clear method. We don't have a clear path nurse too much information and we have no accountability. No guidance and we're just kind of floundering and that can lead us you know can take years and years and years and so it's great that there's all the information out there in this like this free podcast but it can. It can be too much right. So what about something. Low cost like a book. And it's so so interesting. 'cause i've talked to a number of the graduates of my coaching programs are mindful parenting. They say like yes. I had these stacks of books and you may have the suit like a stack of parenting books. And i've seen the pictures of them and his great like there's all the information and can be really good but the problem is the accountability. I love books. I wrote a book. I love raising good humans. And i think it has so much there to offer but the truth is that we all just do so much better when we have a group that we can connect with a person that we can ask personal questions with. So that's why when people joined the mindful parenting membership. We have a very strong and active community and we connect people to accountability buddies right away so that you can really be connected in that way you can you can soar and then you have a clear method. You have a step by step process. You're not taking in all the information you're taking in just what you need for the next step so that really helps enormously and then you have the support of this whole community which that almost an itself can make the biggest difference. We don't realize when we're just kind of going it alone. What a big difference. It is no really realize in your body that you're not alone and to be part of a group part of a movement so if you're interested in learning more about mindful parenting go ahead and go to mindful parenting course dot com and get on the weightless. We only open a couple times a year but get on the wait list and we will send you some awesome information about it so that you can learn more about the methods so that's mindful parenting course dot com okay. I think that's all. I've gotta say before we dive in. Let's talk montessori. Join me at the table. As i talk to simone davies. Welcome to the mindful mama. Podcast snowed thank you so much for having me. I'm delighted to be here today joining me from amsterdam. I'm glad to have you here. This is so exciting. We're doing our first video interview of you still like all the video being tossed afterwards. So but we're here now. We're going to do it. Yeah i love talking about montessori and and you know. I personally the listener. You've already heard me talk about my own experience with montessori. The you know my kids have been in montessori founder of the the first public charter minus a founder of the for first public charter in the state of delaware. And and i. I really have a passion for it and i was wondering if you could tell me though kind of what i see in some ways the difference like i wanna talk about the idea of like following the child's and kind of not killing the spark because the idea of for me of not killing the spark was one of the most important things about going into montessori school. 'cause i remember being a kid in school and and you know it'll sitting there like doing this lesson that i was totally uninterested in and really hating. I really hated school in a lot of ways. But i was a really smart kid in the the advanced you know sort of level or whatever but i really hated school in a lotta ways. Kind of it was this is sort of. I don't know it just had this difficult thing for me and in some ways it's sort of killed that you know a little bit of that spark at least while i was in the schoolroom so can you tell me. I guess for about about this idea of the spark. What is it and how what is different. Donate how to normal classrooms do that. I think that it's a beautiful place to stop. Because you're right in traditional systems. I know from my i would put my and say is this test and if it wasn't any the test stop living listening and that's not what we want children. We want them to be curious and maintain that sparking that love of learning and the interest in the world around them and the interest in their friends and how they impact society in all those things. And so montessori is about following the child and people think well if georgia do whatever they like you know it must be complete chaos but it's this beautiful approach. mixed classrooms so for example. They'll be three to six year olds together in a clause six sixty nine year olds and nine to twelve year olds in class which means that the children who have been in the class longer can model and show the younger children how things work and the youngest children's devout really look up to the older children and the teacher they actually call them a guide because instead of standing at the front of the class. They're they're observing all the children all doing their own things and they can say which child needs some more assistance and which child needs the next lesson in something and they step in to help and then they step back To let the children get on a make all the discoveries for themselves so the types of activities that are available at these beautiful. It's a beautiful curriculum. This really rich maytham tactile hands on materials. So his love workbooks worksheets or copying off. A blackboard is really that you go over and you take an activity and you bring it to a table or work mass. there's activities that are done by themselves but is also once he can do with a partner or friend and then when you move into the six to twelve age groups you actually have a of different workspaces like table. You could work by yourself. But actually lots of big tables or workspaces where you can collaborate with many people of different age groups. So it's just all about. I didn't know let's find out. And then the children get to touch and feel and talk a lot about hands on learning because you may have read this and talked about it a lot before you understand things better when you actually concrete we hold them in your hands rather than just absorbing facts and a formula children montessori discovering the formulas themselves. it's really exciting Yeah i i went on this some sort of tour experience of like my kids montessori school and went into six to nine classroom and they had one of these amazing manila manipulatives like four. That was like teaching them how to do like the square roots right or maybe it was a nine to twelve classroom anyway. I was looking at that. And i finally understood square roots for the first time ever in my life because i'm really visual person and all i had ever done before was memorize some formula and it just didn't make sense to me and i memorize it enough to get the test and then i finally i finally understood. I was like hollow louis. You know and so what you described beautiful overview. It sounds like it would be really fun for the kids. A sounds great but And actually i wanted to share with you. The idea of like the hands on learning in the tactile stuff. There's i don't know if you've ever heard there's some Comedian who once told a joke. That was like who. Yeah my kids are in montessori school like the first year they're there they learn to like a mop the floor and then the second year there were there. They learned to like hang clothes on a clothesline and then the third year. They're they're they. Learn to use tweezers to move one pom pom ball to another pom pom plays and then they could read and then the next year there they do you know they did some other like know manipulative activity and then they were doing all this math. And i didn't understand it was like you've just done these things and then all of a sudden you can understand all these issues which i think is so hilarious because these hands on learning things. Really get to these. You know these. Real deep academic stuff in a really really great way. But i i really wondering like i'm not sure if the listener can maybe understand the idea of like how. This is really different. Like from the traditional some riley traditional classroom. You may not have every desk in a row these days. You may have clusters or circle but basically what's happening is like all the kids are learning the same thing at the same time. And i wonder if you could talk to about like y that's problematic. Yes so if you're sitting there passively learning the teacher decides what you need to learn today. So you've got no motivation particularly in a Interest or that. You feel like doing that. And i didn't wake up every day feeling like i'm at a jetty can do the same thing. Sometimes i want to start with reading and then you know as a child. They might want to do maths. I the wants to stop with the language work. So every child can work with the interest with the how the energy is at that moment. And when you passively learning you also like you have no Active involvement in discovering anything. They just giving you facts for you to put into a worksheet. Make powerpoint where with montessori. The children are taking an interest in researching it and six to twelve year olds will call up a place and find out more information and actually go and do visits outside of the classroom so it's really about engaging the learners as opposed to them being passive. So you're choosing what you want to work on your choosing the area of inches that you feel like working on and then you have workbooks that you know registered to keep track of what you're working on so that you make sure you're covering all the areas and the teacher's responsibility is also to help you guide you so if you're avoiding a particular area that's one parents you know. My main concern is what if my child is interested in mass. then it's the teachers responsibility to say. Okay they might be interested in mass right now but how can i lay the foundation. And make sure that they're moving forward in that area or get them interested in counting the number of words in a book if there are really big bookish child and finding a way to come to that so child is going to be more interested and so these hands on activities that you were talking about about practical life activities. It's really fun because people think why are they like just learning to mop the floor. But there's actually so many prices that are involved in these practical life activities where you learn to look after the environment. It's not oh you know you did made a mistake. You have to clean it up. It's just like oh. I spilled something. So i cleaned it up so i take responsibility so they learn about how to be a citizen in the classroom learning like a sequence of activities. So when you're doing the washing up for example after your snack you'll need to go and get a jug and take it over to the sink and get some water and you probably pass a friends along the way and you can't get distracted by what else they're doing working on and then you come back and pull the border and you're learning a lot of fine motor skills by controlling the movement so you don't spill a drop and if you do village than there's a cloth the radio said you can again on building clean it out and then you working on your hand skills. Is you squeeze the so pin anyway. There's lots of steps and this is also doing building executive functioning skills as well and they also feel really capable and that they're making a difference in the space so those small steps is practical life skills teaching them a lot about being in society and as they move into the six to twelve age groups. Those kind of things will be looking at. Oh not just my classroom. It can service the community and then the adolescent will go and how they can be a citizen of the world so yeah you'll build on each other yet in his fascinating like when my oldest daughter came home in her. I guess it was either for this. It was a ham. Remember what of the last but then when she came home with her planner In maybe it was fourth grade or something like that and she came home with her planner. And she said you know. She talked about how she has to plan out her week. Like she has to figure out where you had this work plant. You worked chunk of time the that serve open and she has to figure out she has to keep track of what she needs to get done for the week and do that for the week and i thought oh my god like this is so brilliant like i had to do this in college like i got to college or high school or you know maybe a little bit but like she's doing it in fourth grade i mean that makes so much sense for her to be able to do this and this really safe environment and it was like this practical i finger. They walk them through how to use a planner. And and what to do you know. Do all those different steps. Stay tuned for more mindful. Moma podcast right. After this break we are supported by pipette. Pipette is a clean baby. Mom care brand with a mission to give every family the best start and so i don't know about you but i am obsessed with pudding only clean ingredients on my skin because our skin absorbs sixty percent of what we put on it so we don't want to be putting toxic. 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Some children are naturally quite good at it and others like okay. They actually have a meeting every week with the teachers. So what went. Well what gene help with. And so they can kind of ski correcting and seeing where they need more guidance. And i think that's great because every child lens in a different way and so the teachers to give just as much help as necessary and let the child get on and do the rest as much as possible so it's really beautiful. And and maria montessori who founded massar. She talked about like what is it called like learning there's times right were primed to learn certain things we think we can. This is pretty obvious when the kid is learning to right like it's a different ages. You're not going to hurry it up by doing whatever right like it's it's just happens when it happens that the child has an and i forgot what is it called that sensitive periods the sensitive period. Yes aren't tell us about what this is. Because i think this is so important for us to realize like we. I don't know you know when when we're when we're growing up with a in a more traditional system you know you just you think of learning kind of really basically like we give you this information you take it in. And that's that and then we test to test you on it and whatnot like we just kind of that. Kids are this like sort of like receptacles for this information. That's how we learned. But but that's not really true. And you you talk to like the whole idea of like interest increases your intelligence right like you know when you're you're interested you're you're really increases how much you're gonna learn it in and tell us about these sensitive periods that i always forget what that is called. But that's okay and it's really useful because that's the reason. The montessori works because even know every child wasn't didn't have sensitive periods to learning language or to learning mathematics. Then you would have to force the information in. But dr montessori notice that children just naturally become interested in these things during certain periods and it's going to differ for every child but there's some guidelines so if the child's into like language really starts from birth right through to in the first six years you can think of a baby who's starting they can make the sound of any language in the world and then eight months just the sounds that they hear around them so And then the sensitive period sucking in they like absorbing taking from their environment like a sponge all of the woods vocabulary and making them into sentences by the time that they're three years old so it's amazing so the sensitive period that you didn't have to force it down a two year old and giving them grandma lessons. Did you say you know. Dad is sitting on the chair. You just the woods and gradually they might say dead chair and then they started getting conjugated verbs as. They went along and served by the same principles. A child who may be interested in reading they might not be interested in reading when they're three be showing any For they're doing a lot of indirect preparation you know learning from left to right and lots of things like this about crossing the mid line but it just didn't reading say reading to them where exposing them to language with their involving them in compensation and then one day when they're five or six or seven and they start showing interested in saying. Oh what does that say. Oh look at this. that's good. That's the that's the of my name starts with. Then you realize oh they in a sensitive period for reading right now and then you can really use fully the spark the interest and you start showing them. All of the beautiful hands on materials are to read this beautiful sandpaper letters where they can touch this rough surface of like the letter and then he and they see aso. It appeals to visual learners kinesthetic learners or learners and so many different ways than than what i love about montessori as well as you scaffold the skills on sorry that is not just like one day you have to learn the whole word. You've been building these little skills all the time. In one day they go At took cats and they realized that they actually can read the would because actually montessori they learn to right before they read. Which i think's really fun as well because children can learn the beginning. Sounds kerr and then they get a letter. And they use a movable alphabet to spell it out and then to but you awesome what it spells. There's another step which is to synthesize it so actually they can write letters to you just by manipulating these hands on materials. Direct at they don't even need to be up to write the letter yet. Because you're giving them the materials that if they can make a sentence before they even ready to raid so the sensitive periods languages sensitive periods for maths on the sensitive periods order and lots of things like this and knowing that your child will come to it when that sensitive varies activated means. You can relax and trust that. The child will learn when they're ready. I think you've hit on a really tough part for people that will relaxing entrusting that the sensitive period is is that they will have that. What what what do you know. How do you help. How do we help parents who are worried that their kids won't make won't be interested in reading. Won't be interested in math. Won't be interested in writing. Yeah it's it isn't takes a lot of trust and so i give examples like My son he's best friend was not interested in reading at all. And so you can also do testing if you're really worried that something's not going ahead. I actually rather be proactive. If you think that there's no development in language but usually there's you're seeing signs of interest. This child wasn't interested in reading at all and then at the age of seven they went from not reading it all to reading a whole harry potter by the end of the year had my son had been reading since he was five and he wasn't ready for by seven. You know so. It just showed that if you just trust weight than they actually win the super interested in it. It will come so naturally won't be like forcing it in and other people also worried. Like what if. I miss the sensitive period. What if i didn't really notice you know my child's now eight and they're not reading. It doesn't mean that they've missed is just a bit more like me. Learning dutch. i've lived for fourteen years but it just made. I had to force a little bit more. It's like going back to the old way where you have to. Maybe learn and do some exercise in that kind of thing but the sensitive periods when you find that sweet spot it just goes inside naturally and they see it all the time because you don't force a child to learn to walk and they just stop themselves in walking so he like just sitting on your hands and watching your child blossom in front of you is the best skill that apparent can learn so when i work with parents i'm quite passionate about it. I run a parent and child group with Families with children up to four years old. So i'm teaching them the trust by combat. See on the side and watch. What's happening right now. Let's watch their social development. That's what they call native development the things they learning. Let's watch their fine motor skills. Their gross motor skills. Let's watch their independence and today that's where it is and it season ten weeks and let's see where it is in and they can't just believe i can't keep up with what's going on. You know so. They actually get to see it happening in front of their eyes. I love how. You're inviting this curiosity right like hausa teacher of mindfulness. Said something always really interested in is like bringing people into a place of carry-ons ity rather than judgment. And you're kind of you're kind of talking to that. And i think that if we look at the kind of the opposite you know the kind of the traditional system when were when we're forced to if we're forced to learn. I know like a when we're not in that sensitive period we would resent it like a lot harder and we start to resent it right. And so we're it's actually. That's what i think of as killing that spark of learning is like kill having that resentment for for teachers or learning in general right that we see that those really common. I think people often. What's the point. I don't understand why i'm learning this. It doesn't mean anything you know but when it comes from your interest much more engaged in the outcome and yeah you're going to be much more involved in the common. That's why you wanna learn more and more and more and i love it like children have such wild differences like i've had a child in a class who's fascinated by bells and so they started exploring cities around here when you could travel. You know that had bell towers and the either so much you can do about bills because some really enormous bells and they make different times by the size of them. And i mean who knew. This was going to be a whole learning opportunity just because these child was interested in bells and there was another child that i knew who was really young and he was really interested in maps so they started by making maps of their local area. And then they'd go into google maps and they'd start finding the rivers and they'd stop mapping out rivers. I just think it's fascinating that you can use a point of interest and even have parents who say well my child uneasy interested in playing vehicles like that. They don't really learn anything. I'm like okay. Well let's see it and see what they're actually doing. And then they realized oh look they've lined them all by color or they've line them up by a type of like the particular function and then there's the vocabulary that goes along it so everyone comes to my classes very fast quickly. Learns that this is a front wheel loader and this is an excavator and this is a bulldozer. And you have to know and understand all of the differences that i just thought that would trucks and obviously there's language opportunities and if my child's interested in language but they're not so interested in doing any self expression i might you know. Set up something. That's like an invitation for them to draw a those kind of things or a player where they can dig with their vehicles in the plato ago. And do some outings where you can go and visit a fire station. And then they could even jonelle about that later yeah. This is so many learning opportunities around your child's interest stay tuned for more mindful. Moma podcast right. After this break we are supported by green chef. The first usda certified organic meal kit company. They have clean ingredients. You can trust and seasonally source for peak freshness. I love being green chef subscriber. Their food is so clean and so good and so easy. It's makes it so much easier to make dinner last night. We had this lemon pepper to loppy. A- everyone in the family loved it. And i feel good because they're organic vegetables. I don't wanna be eating all those pesticides. You know the ingredients they come premeasured. They're perfectly portioned and mostly prepped. 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So that's green chef dot com slash ninety hunters a special web url. And i think you can find it on the notes where you're listening to this podcast right. Now if you click over and find the notes so that's green chef dot com slash ninety hundred and you're going to use a coupon ninety hundred to get ninety bucks off including free shipping. So that's green chef dot com the number nine the number zero and hunter. You'll love it makes things so easy as just a little more ease in your life and goodness now. We all need that. So i'd love if you could kind of describe the environment and describe how this works. Because i think sometimes like i know a lot of listeners. You know there's teachers who listeners and parents and kind of see how this environment works like it all sounds. I can really hear like the listeners. Like there's all sounds really great but like oh my god like how what does classroom management like. Is this crazy chaos. And like what's happening. People are individually doing work. How do people manage that. And i remember just going into my a when my oldest daughter was going in as a toddler eighteen months inches being amazed at the what was happening in this kind of like purposeful buzz of activity. And just like this quiet. It wasn't super loud. Shout out to holly. Knox who is the most amazing montessori toddler teacher ever which we're lucky to have but I mean then. She did things with them like. They made scrambled eggs and blueberry muffins. And all this stuff. And i was like. Oh my gosh. How are you doing that with twenty toddlers around what's happening so you know maybe you could imagine. We're walking into a classroom and kind of describe. How does this environment work for people who are kind of confused as to how. There's any possible order any of us. So actually i what i love about. Mindfulness and montessori stories. They're both about intention and we assume intentional. In how we prepare the environment and in fact we call the environment like a second teacher because we prepare the environment with such kid. Because it's not just us teaching but their hands on experiences so when you walk into my classroom there's an area where they can do like fine motor puzzles and threatening and lots of manipulatives as even a basket. I'm working with like younger. Georgians say under three so that toddler age. And there's like a basket where they can open and close purses and find objects inside and so everything in that area so engaged they just wanna go and choose something and stops right away. So if you find a child's interests they get deep into focus which actually helps the whole concentration that buzz of activity which all came out and then if they might be attracted to the language and they got vocabulary basket. So do that'd be a basket of vehicles with different vehicles on that they can match the pictures and they'll learning object matches a three d object. A picture a today picture of matches the three object. And then there's a beautiful inviting self expression area or out and crossed so whether it's a tray with a pencil and some paper than some Next to that. Is mike clay where they can sculpt and things like that then this cutting so. We have citizens even under three year olds with strips that they can be successful at learning to snip and sewing. All those kind of things. There's always an easel with paint available And not just that. The adults going to do it. But there's actually clips that they can manage themselves. They can hang their painting when they're done and his paper ready so if they want to repeat it they can in the reading corner is beautiful books that i really. Beautifully illustrated very thoughtfully chosen in lots of different subject areas. And then we have a quarter of my classroom gross motor movement in music so that they can do. Climb up a climbing wall. There's cozy q. If they want more quiet time Or they can play playing the musical instruments and dance together. And then what. You're talking about all the baking together and during the practical life skills so we often spend most the morning preparing snack cutting and peeling apples making orange juice together and then they learn to the table and so the environment so carefully prepared so that they see this only the right number of pieces to the puzzle like we don't put out piece puzzle pieces missing but there's also no extra pieces that don't belong somewhere so that everything has a place in a everything in its place And then so this order and structure but there's also a lot of freedom in that structure so the child can choose whatever they like as long as no one else is working with it and then we encourage them than we show them over time how they put it back and the older children are modeling that they've learned how to put things back on the shelf so again that mixed age group also helps so there's so many things that go into making that beautiful. How the talks about the catholic prepared environment the mixed age groups and then the a like you say the like these teachers who have a lot of patients really engage the child or we often use fewer words. We might just say look and then just really slow down on movements to show them. How lock opens. Where normally we're saying. Look an open now in wake giving so much information. They don't know whether it's a look at us auto listened to what we're saying and so we've practice in what really well trained and worked with as children for a very long time so that we can really accept each child for who they up with at and that's how the magic happens so it's so cool because yes like no matter what you're describing toddler classroom but like no matter what age you are. You can move around the room as you need to. You don't have to like raise. Your hand has to go to the bathroom. You can stand in stretch if you want to. You know you can kind of take care of your body in that way No do you find that like with an environment like this. Like i've always wondered you know some people asked me and i don't really know 'cause i'm not an expert even though i've been involved in in montessori schools know whether it's appropriate for kids of different different age or different kind of like Levels of of skill like can kid with special needs Be served by an environment. A montessori environment and things like that. I definitely think that because we treat each child uniquely that it means that children with any ability or more is accepted in our space because one way also doing a lot of observation ourselves in a lot of non judgment. We're not putting people into boxes instead we're looking at. What is this child capable of are their needs right now. And how can i best meet those needs. So it doesn't matter if they may be pined. Because i have a piece of material that these engage them and meet them where the at and we actually had one job for example with cerebral palsy whose cognitive skills were surpassing the two and a half of her age but her body. She didn't actually have physical skills to be able to stand. Carry the tray so then we can modify it. We can say this is what she wants to work with. We'll help you get material to a table for you. To work at it will modify Make a place where you can work with it and so they really accepted in. I think it's so important actually for all children to have people with different needs in the classroom because that's how we really learn to not only know ourselves but how we learn to get along with all people and understand that everyone has different needs and we're all the different stages and we can help him one area another child will be good at somebody else and we all work together. What about kids like attention issues. Adhd that kind of thing. Yeah and i think it also really appeals to them as well Because usually attention deficit is because they actually have to wait and listen to the teacher. It's completely distracting. They can get up. They usually need to move a lot. They often can aesthetic learners. And so i've had some children who may eventually be labeled adhd but when they've found the activity that they really interested in right now they get they really repeat and repeat and practice it until they've mastered it they can get really date concentration so i think for most children. I'm not an expert in adhd. But i would say that when you find the thing that interests that child than that's when they get survey concentration and love of learning. And you're meeting their needs and then you'll meeting the needs of all everyone in the classroom. They're engaged in settled and focused and this Learning as well in a social situation. Where if you know you. There's a child who has difficult in may interrupt people than your over his class. How can i help this child. How can we make them feel loved and they also talk about bullying and things like that like The child who is bullying is not feeling like lobbed themselves. So how can we help the bully just as much as the person being bullied. I love that that This beautiful. I love that. And they actually have to say in my kids experience. So now i have an eighth grader. In montessori in eighth grade montessori classroom and you know the very accepting like. I can't like it's hard to imagine bullying situations in the school like it's really really hard to imagine that that happening. So this all sounds amazing and i hope everybody's like super excited to like check out the monastery situations near you and what's available but this we can also take some of these principles right and bring them home and you know i remember i. It's interesting because like i've seen. I've seen both that work and see kind of the opposite when we don't even think about it like my brother. I love him but his daughter is like five years old and had to ask every single time she wanted a glass of water. He had to get up. Go to the fridge. Get her glass. Get her water to get her water. And unlike like wouldn't be simple to make her a little station where she could get her own water. And i remember like you know screwing in these little The little hooks you know at like three feet off the ground. My kids can hang up their own jackets. So those are some of the things. I did to bring that into my environment and also simplifying the spaces a lot. But tell me what you know. How can we. How can we bring some of this phone. I think that it's absolutely right. One pot is how we set up at home so that they can be independent and having things accessible because they ask so capable. I mean pretty much from one and a half to two years old. Having low water station is great and then one and a half year old. We'll just have less water out because you already put out at as you want. Clean up right as well because you can say. Oh my listened to these great podcasts. About one story. So i put out a big jug of water and then there was a big spill and then you end up losing much also about knowing like limits on things and then it's about engaging activities so i think so many times i go and visit way too many toys and so the parents say they never know what to do. I'm when i look around. I also would know how to choose. It's like going to a supermarket biz way. Too many mueslis daikyo spend fifty minutes just making one selection. Where if you observing your child and you saying what they're really interested in and you choose to six activities. And i like to actually set them out like they have in the montessori classroom where they're on a tray or in a basket so that it's really easy okay. This is the kind of work. I'm going to try that. And then you notice. Oh that's actually too difficult. What i'll do is. I'll make it as simple abrasion. Let's actually challenging them anymore. Maybe i'll make it more difficult by you. Know changing it up that way and then they are the padres one-storey parenting that we can bring into our arms. Is that trust like okay. Giving my child The chance to pull their and glass of water but do am i showing them. I trust them to actually do that. So that takes a lot of patients observation and so i love to teach parents about a lot of the parenting skills that they can also apply so But for example. I think the easiest place to study setting up your home like you said so when you walk in the insurance and you have low hawks where they can hang up their bag and the decades and maybe even a small stool that they can sit on so that they can be successful in taking their shoes on and off. and i'm really fine with them wearing gumboots on rain boots. Guess you'd call them yet. Rain rates like every day. If it's easier for the right now but then eventually then. Learning to tyler is actually being really patient and think. How can a child learn to tie that you have to really break down all of the movements into very small things i. It's just crossing over the laces minutes talking it through and thinking. Like a montessori teacher hat. Can i break it down into the very smallest steps so that they can be successful and we might not get to tie the whole lace for three weeks but we're just practicing the first step until they must that pot and then in the kitchen like i love having things the child's height so even if you come to my my home now all of the plates boza down low like in a low cupboard so that everyone who comes to visit my house can get themselves glass of water or they can get a plate so it helps a table and that such an easy thing to do learning towers a very fashionable Days which means that. The child can get up to the height of the kitchen. But when my kids were small because they now eighteen and twenty I just had a step ladder from a hardware store. And so i could also put it away because we didn't have such a big kitchen and so i'd be up to step up and i've gotta fight over my daughter. She's about six months old and she's making herself a honey sandwich at the top of the stands and in the bedroom you know. How can i make it so they can actually choose. They closed because i think getting dressed in the morning is one of at least favorite things but actually seeing. That is a moment of connection will actually. I'm gonna put my final way. I'm not gonna expect them to be able to get dressed by themselves. But i'm going to give them simple choices. So i can say. Would you like to choose a t shirt today. And there's just a couple of s- choices for them to choose. I want to read one. And if they really wanting to wear the pink to too but they're not allowed to wear they don't even have an available because you're just going to get into an argument so again taking the time to think ahead. What do i want them to be able to choose from makes life much easier to just keep giving them involved in the house and simplifying things that are attractive and that they can be independent and accessible. Stay tuned for more mindful mama. Podcast right after this break we are supported by bulldog. Yoga's on-demand classes. So it's no secret that we are all juggling a lot. These days jobs. Our families our budgets. Not dimensional the whole emotional baggage of last year. It's been tough with our kids. The wacky schedules. All of that stuff. That is why we need to move our bodies and to move that stress out. Our bodies on a regular basis and yoga is such an amazing practice for that. You know we've all heard and read about the amazing benefits of yoga increased strength. 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And they're meant to really motivate you and keep you and your family smiling through the whole thing and there's choices for all levels from beginner classes to like really heart pumping workouts and there are tons of class lengths to to fit your schedule. Classes range from twelve to sixty minutes. So i really had fun in my class and i had a great time and it was a great workout vigorous one which was like so fun for me. Try your first thirty days for free at bull dog online dot com that's bulldog online dot com and then use the coupon code hunter for an additional fifty percent off your first paid month so that's bulldog online dot com coupon code hunter. Yeah you're talking about a lot of a lot of simplifying here and it's it really helps enormously. It just helps much like we did that. We had like two shelves and we had six things out that they could play with and they had space around them on the shelves and they would go and you know get the like blocks or get the whatever and and it was you know it was like okay like when cleanup time came. It was like wasn't hard. You know it really re preparing the environment in that way. Really reduces a lot of the drama. Sounds like there's a lot of you know. I it's it's a lot of Independence right and it's a lot of like working together. You know so. Were developing their own skills to One thing my kids can do. Which i think is really neat as that. They're really able to talk to adults. in a very easy and sincere way one thing that they in the monastery classroom that in at least in my kids. They called the adults by the first name. And i at first. I was like. I'm so sure. If i liked that and now come around to really liking that because it just seems like very simple presentation. It's like there's not this. I guess a big sense of hierarchy in between. I feel sometimes actually now even a little uncomfortable. When i'm introduced to my friends kids as like miss hunter or something like that or something and the other thing they did. That was neat. That i wonder if you could talk to is like they came in and they looked each each child in the eye and held their hand and shook their hand and said hello. And how are you. And i thought that was so cool and so now my kids have this ability to talk to adults to speak comfortably in a lot of situations And i think it pretty much stems from that. Is that universal. Do do that in amsterdam. Well actually it was the one thing that i noticed the first time i entered. A montessori classroom was how respectful the teachers were not early to us it to the children. They spiked to them in the same way. They didn't patronize them. They really They didn't dumb things down for them. So that is that mutual. Respect is that if i am not the boss view but i guide you and i'm respectful than you earn that respect back and then the children learn amazing vocabulary. Because you know when. I'm walking down the street. I'll say there's a labrador. There's a golden retriever. There's a dalmatian. I'll give them as much capillaries as i know so. They're letting know rich language we have conversations and we ask open questions and discussions you know these children from six to twelve so capable and they really start to talk about the most exciting ideas of how they're going to save the world. Really you know. I remember cycling. One day might georgian with saying okay. So pollution's problems. What if we can use pollution as fuel source and then the only problem is once we've used up all of the pollution. There'll be nothing to fuel the cause and so you just little ideas like this to keep interest in wild in social issues than they can have yet these really rich conversations all stems back to respect and the cretaceous teaching age. Yeah trading at shot with respective goes a long way right. Yeah and it's just like it goes back to like what we what i talk about. Parenting in mindful parenting a lot to is like we treat kids kind of as a culture like we're very disrespectful to kids. We're retreat them as less than we bark orders at them right. We do all these things. And we don't realize i'm not saying that to shame or blame or judge anyone at all because this is just like the the the you know the air that we breathe is that right that is part of the culture but this is a really different culture that you're describing. Yeah and i think it is beautiful because these children grow up to be respectful to others to have rich conversations and rich conversations with people who we know a great but rich conversations with people who think differently from us and taking the time to listen and not argue against them but like. I'm curious why you think that. And i'm curious if i think that too and sometimes i i actually changed my mind about that because i listen to. You know like it's got a cool to for them to hear that. And i think a lot of it also comes back to modeling because they have to see us make mistakes and apologize and do all of those things well so it's not just expecting that we're going to check out these perfect children because we're not perfect ourselves and they need to know some self compassion and what to do but we're also bodily empathy like from birth. I mean i work with babies as well and if a child bumps their head. I don't say oh don't worry about it. I say ow a bumpkin hook and they kind of just seemed to go like that. They often stop faster than when. I'm trying to distract them and not really acknowledging that feeling so there's so many layers to being respectful but it's also about acknowledging when someone's having a hard time and loving them at their worst you know because sometimes a child will be having a hot day and to know that they still loved and you'll help them make amends with a friend who they got it wrong in. Are the skills that were building know. Citizens of the world so so beautiful. You're describing all the reasons. I i love this at so in line in alignment with mindful parenting. And what we do before we go. Maybe you know this is. We've you know we talked about how monitoring the classroom and a little bit about bringing it into our own lives can. Can you talk a little bit. You know we talk speaking to this respectful parenting thing and can you. Are there any kind of mind set shifts or any kind of ways that For for people were kind of who are a little bit on. The fence is there. Are there some ways that we can start to shift the way we're thinking about it. Does that make sense question. Yeah i think one of the things. I always like to say is to say things through a child's eyes so a total of for example who snatched the toy off another child with thinking of naughty. They don't wait nitin but actually if you look through your child's eyes they see a toy they like. I'd like to tell me that right now. And so they just stopped pulling it and new to this so they're still learning to take turns so instead if i instead of saying don't touch that you knew that it's not your journal. We have to share overcome. Come instead by looking is it. Looks like he really wanted to tell me that. Yeah is hard to wait and just waiting to see if they may be even. Take the hands of i like. Oh i can't let you take it out of the hands and you very you're helping guide them So i would say always look through. The child's is. I do the same with like teenagers for example. When my daughter was fourteen she wanted to go to concert in the middle of amsterdam and thinking as an adult. I'm like. I'm not letting my child go to a concert. Venue without any parents thinking but looking through her is she thinks she's ready for concert and she feels safe. So how can she get to go to the concert. And i do as much as possible to keep her safe. And then we work together kind of similar israel. Africa was as like. How can i find ways that everyone can have. It needs mint so we worked out that i would feel comfortable because i didn't know the gold. She was going with that. They'd come into our house and have some pizza together. And i'd cycle with them to the venue and i would sit in a cafe on the corner and watch some go in and then i explained that you know people can spiky drinks and things like that and i was two skids that you didn't even have anything to drink the whole time. They were there. And i would pick them up early at the end of the comedy. Eleven o'clock and i wasn't there any parent that was there but they got to go to the concert They were safe as they could a and we managed to instead of may saying no. You're not going and then she might be wanna sneak out on my back and not trust me you know and then there are other times when i had to say. I don't feel safe my son wanted to go. He was sixteen on a boat with some friends. And i'm like. Actually i think all of your friends are really responsible. But i'm more worried about like if there's bad weather or someone does drink and gets really silly you know. I can't feel safe about that. And they ended up finding a where they could go That was safe. And then i was okay with them going away together so sometimes having to say no. But they'll know that you've really tried to find all those things just saying perspective and not trying to be not the not trying to push the boundaries and not trying to they just yes. See things through the child's is that hope did it. Yes i love. That's a beautiful way to end. And you're talking about just being open minded like honoring your own instincts about safety and and you know honoring what what's within you as the parent but also then holding that an instead of an saying well and you want this really badly. Let's let's explore it further. Let me be open minded and and looking looking at everybody's needs it's really really a lovely way On a beautiful chef. Let's look through. Our child's is so beautiful Well simone is been really a pleasure to talk to you. Where can people find out more about you and talk. Take this conversation further. They'd like to. Yeah there's lots of resources over at the montessori notebook dot com or if you like instagram. I posted there as well. And i would just love to connect with you and keep sharing my love of montessori and i always say i love to spray peace and positivity around the world just one family that time because if your family makes a little difference you know someone at the park might notice that you're doing something a little bit differently in that might inspire them to find out a little bit more about some of the mindful parents saying some story parenting as well. It's beautiful thank you so much simone. It's been a real pleasure. Likewise i've had so much fun i love getting took much story with you. Thank you so much for listening. Doesn't that just make you so excited about montessori and making your home or accessible and getting tools and stuff for your kids i love recommending. They're not a sponsor affiliate at all. But i love recommending. The four small hands cattle online. They used to be catalogs. But that is for me but it's called four small hands and they put these like real tools for kids that they can use which is so cool. The wavy cutter. Oh i remember them on their stool with the wavy cutter. So yeah i hope you dive into putting all those hooks down low in your house because it really makes a huge difference in cooperation and all those things so i hope you've enjoyed it. I'm so glad to able to connect with you and hope that's been helpful. Let me know if it has take a screen child. Whatever you're listening to this on and connect with me on instagram. This can see the back behind the scenes all my life hat mindful mama mentor and also we have a private facebook group that you can get more involved in so go ahead and check that out. We've so using episodes coming up for you. We're going to be talking about kids anxiety. 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FEMINISMO E EMPODERAMENTO CRISTO COM CRIS CORRA #036

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