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Episode 357  Close More Deals and Raise More Money With Your Own Book

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Episode 357 Close More Deals and Raise More Money With Your Own Book

"Welcome to the casual fridays. Rei podcasts where you'll learn about the wildly profitable mitch of planned investing active lane investors adam southie and justin sleep while are here to share their experiences with you so that you can learn how to build a massive cash flow and huge profits from this highly lucrative niche so without further ado here your host adam. Southie and justice liba. What's up guys. I'm adam southie here with my co host justin's liba and this is the casual fridays. Rei podcast and this up so talk. Format teacher turned real estate investor. Max keller about how he stopped chasing lead has struggled to compete for deals my position himself as he trusted expert with his own book. Before we dive into that though. Let's talk about the palm investment. Guys do you have a proper. You need funding for one. investment group. Is your solution. Plum health plan. Investors grow their businesses by funding. Your raw land purchase. Really awesome deal guys and just to be clear. This isn't a loan alexa partner with you by putting up the money for your project so dear some favorite go check out the web site at plum investment group dot com happy friday. Hey what's up dude. I'm super stoked today. Because max his he does something it's different. It's unique and it's something that i've actually kind of done with watching our own book so i'm gonna let him tell us. How did it wrong. And he's going to give me the speed up The the the better way to do it because he does have a new book out so just coming off his new launch of his new book. The book writing checklist is a first way to get started. So max without further. Welcome to the yeah. Hey great to be here. Let's go man. We're glad we're glad to have somebody another texan this year. Our second interview with somebody from texas since we're local in your metroplex with us too. So it's great to have somebody here and we get when we have interviews like we get what's called a one sheet and it kind of gives us a bio the person. Let's no but one of the things that really stuck out to me was you said. How do i become the trusted expert. And you hit the two biggest problems. At real estate x investors have a net finding deals and finding money in new. Found a unique way to do this. And i'm hoping you share it with our listeners today. Yeah sure well you know. It was born out of necessity. So i started. You know i started doing real estate. Investing in twenty fifteen. I mean you can put it on craigslist. Add up and scoop up deal. Wholesale that makes sixteen grand. Thank you are awesome until you fast forward. Two years later and found out. Oh that had a lot to do with just where the market was not my skill but twenty seventeen you know. I just started I was really ramping up ahead office. I had two people that helped me buy houses and you'll probably do about thirty forty deals for the year. Most were fixing flip so it was pretty good margin but i was just. I felt like i was on a perpetual job interview. I go into these people's living rooms every week they'd get more and more male that had the same messages they're just getting it from everybody and their mother than You know the hedge funds. And i started coming in and putting really big dollar amounts sometimes twice what i could pay for the house now. There isn't what they were actually gonna make you know they find that out later. It's kind of too late at that point. So i just saw these things going on and i was like well. I gotta do something different with my marketing. Where you know i i was when my marketing wasn't getting as good a return and this was calling text messaging. I was doing everything yellow letters every list i could find and it was working but not all the time and i wanted to work better so i i just like did more of it which was not obviously a very good idea and then i said okay. Well what is it like. I really wanna do and for me kinda came down. I basically figured out two things one. A better niche for me to work with and then to a different way to reach them. So how. I found a better niche for me to go after was it just made a list of what's important to me you know. My list isn't going to be the same as yours is not gonna be the same as people listening but for me. I wanted to only work higher margin. Deals skinny deals took about the same amount of time. And there's just no point. You know that was like number one number two as i wanted to work with people who actually saw me as like their trusted guide wasn't telling him what the cops in their neighborhood were and they were arguing with me. You know like you know. Like i'm the professional here. And so that was i wanna work with people who saw me as that and then i also just want to have fun. I was tired of bailing. People out of the grand prairie jail. Did to go to a closing. And just working with these people screaming at me on the phone and i was like i. Don't this is just not me. I was a math teacher before i got this. I mean have thicker skin now. But i'm not. I'm not some hard. You know closer. I don't give a damn about anybody that i don't like it when people call me up and start cussing at me and so it was like who should i be working with well. It's pretty two things happen. One most of the people. I was working with did meet all three of the criteria. But the ones who did. You don't have to be a former math teacher. Tell what the pattern was. There were all seniors. They're all senior citizens so i was like I just started diving in all right. How did how did these people come to me. And they weren't even coming from a marketing campaigns. They were coming to me randomly from like referrals or like their kids. Saw me rehabbing a house in the neighborhood and sometimes by the houses i wasn't the highest offer and i was like okay. This is good. Because i'm becoming highest offer less and less. So why are they picking me. So i just called up a person i used to that. I bought a house from just not six months previous. I said hey remember me. You know mac save your home buyers. And they're like yeah. Did you have a higher offer when we did our deal together. And they're like yeah. Because i remember. They told me i was like how. How much higher was there. They're like ten grand ten grand a lot around here. This is not million dollar. Houses are yours are mine but not not the people buying their houses from and so i was like okay. Why did you pick me. And they really just said it's because they felt like genuinely cared about their their family member and they trusted me. And i was like okay. This trust thing seems pretty valuable. Make sense if you're married or not married. You know that. And so i was like well how do i get more of it and so when i was doing was just learning more stuff that these people had questions about so i made like a list of all the i'm here. Mid cities dallas fort worth. I made a list of all the senior housing places within twenty miles. A here and i wouldn't like called some of them. You know so. I could refer people you know had some other referral partners and i was buying this house. This is what happened. This is a game changer. Buying this house in richland hills and the the daughter of the homeowner who bought it from. She's like fifty. she said. You know you've helped family out of town. It's really stressful when your parents get old and you have to sell the family home. It's a really really tough scene right now. All of these people have just these folks just praying on him just calling them up bugging them all the time. They don't give a damn about them. All they want to do is get paid even if they don't say that it comes through on the phone so i don't wanna be like that and the lady goes. You've helped us a ton. Why have you ever thought about writing a book about this stuff. Because i'm sure there's other families going through the same thing we're going through and i was like a book. I can't even tell you something that somebody's told me that i didn't even. I barely understood what she said. I was like me. i'm dyslexic like there's no way i barely read a book. Write about 'cause not happening. I would be least likely in my graduating class to read a book. Let alone right one. But then i thought about it. I was like you know that's actually a pretty good idea. I wouldn't have to go crazy. I could just write all the questions. People that asked over and over again on their nineteen seventy eight floral print couches. For four hours. I could write all the questions down. That people should be asking so i did that. I just i made. That was my first book home to. Home the step-by-step senior housing guide. And then once. I made that i needed one for attracting private money but but before i even start writing that one. Just start giving it out. I just gave it to people just like my business card. The only difference was they weren't throwing it away. We gotta deal two weeks ago from a lady who called us. We spoke at a workshop at a church which by the way the churches were not letting me speak. When i was a predatory shark real estate investor which i was not but that's how they perceive me but i'm a local author have a local program. I have a workshop. Now the whole game changes. And i'm doing all these workshops at the churches saint max and i'm helping these people and i'm standing up there sitting down. They see me as the expert. I'm teaching them stuff they don't know and this lady called me and said that yeah Now we need to sell our house and she had kept my book and work book. It'd been over two years and never nobody ever kept my yell. I mean you guys is yellow letters and postcards probably different but nobody's kept mine that long because their junk mail were on the coffee table with all the other autographed books from the real estate professionals which is zero except now unless they're one of my students this is so genius like Like it's one of those game changer. You called it. The game changing moment was an aha moment to you that you said oh shit. These like these people like they. They really needed help. Because oh yes basically. I are made niches land. But i've sold. I think figured up in the last four years twenty doors that have been either wholesale fixing flip or we bought to bring into inventory to to rent out. It's so many of those senior citizens and like you. The reason they picked me was because my company's named the buy side of my comes land coupled with a husband wife team were a small family. Were in a family owned we. Come out we'll walk you through and tell you exactly what we think needs to be done. We'll give you the numbers and let you make that decision. There's no there's no pressure on our part and while that doesn't get the door closed sometimes on single family side of the business it it does open net that hey we trust you. We'll talk to you later because we're not ready to sell yet but it opens up. You know you've shown them the bullet points and said hey. This is why we do what we do in how this works. You don't have to be the offer because you are there guy at that one. You're the expert. Yeah and no. There's not a lot of people doing this kind of stuff. Like like when i started getting into real estate. My friends and me upgrade our. Cpa's you know. Like i didn't need a real good. Cpa when i was a math teacher in harwood junior high like. It's not really need that. I could do it on one page but you start making more money. You need an attorney. You need all these people. But then i would go and they help us a ton but then i go buy houses from you. Know may this who drove a bus is the well. She got a little teacher pen. A little like a school district pension low social security but when she's trying to navigate all this there's no unless her kids how to do this stuff there's no cpa's or attorney relationships because they don't have the assets you know of like the financial assets and stuff and so who's going to help these people and then they go online. They get confused. They go to one of these. You know senior living places. They're just trying to talk. Commended their option is. I wanted to be kind of like the dave ramsey financial peace university but for senior housing. And so that's why we created the book and the workbook and now we have people who license our content which on everyone thought what have happened in a million years but my friends investors. Listen to your show or smart with some works. They want a copy. They don't want to redo it themselves. It's all about speed so go. Hey can i you know you're not given that out in florida. You're not giving that out in chicago. Can i use it. I'm like i don't know. I have to check with somebody. I don't even know yet. I have no idea. And so i kind of found out about this other world. That's out there. And now i have over one hundred people that license our senior book or private lending book because that works good to you know private lenders have a lot of questions to who knew and then i'm we we just did gingery. No resentful assisted living. We just did his book all his students and they were doing one for a note. Investing says turn into this whole other company. I never would have expected a million years but kind of makes sense because our customers are worth a lot of money and my favorite marketers. Dan kennedy in the book book the business. He said the number one way to make money with the book is not to sell. It is to get a new client. New customer and a book transitions you from going from an unwelcome passed to to a welcome guest. That's a big difference. I agree and i think adam would echo that sells you had said. Hey seems expensive. Check out the book. Get a taste of what we assume. The book and i can just imagine senior citizens e-books not the right message for them most time. It's you know maybe feed a family until webinars some sort but if he's of content that you're handing them at a church convention where at a senior citizens place. Hey these are. The questions asked him to liquidate dress. This is the way to mavis. Who who probably had something happen really quickly. Yeah that she had to liquidate fast. It wasn't something she could plan out and repair the house. Get it ready for market. Her kids didn't have time 'cause they moved away as exactly right. It just wasn't worth it to him. And you're you're that that solution and that's you know for all of us is real estate investors. We look for that opportunity to be the solution to their problem. Yeah unless he did you. Did they genius. What's at what is what's your main way to get. These looks at me and say just start handing out to. Everyone spoke at things that kind of the way you get it out doing speaking engagements or yeah own community or you know it's funny. I just do this. I do this. There's kind of two parts. One of them is just the same stuff i was already doing. I kept sending out direct mail. I still do. The only difference is instead of just saying. Hey if you need to sell your house you know. Call us and we'll give you a cash price but then it says at the bottom. Well if you're not ready to sell yet that's cool if you we just have this new book out and it teaches people what to do how to stay in their house and how to sell their house. You can go online and buy it for twelve ninety nine which people are very comfortable with that price. Anchor is really a fixed and their brains. Psychologically speaking and so Or you can call. Her office will give you a copy. An autographed copy for free. So what happened. Is the first male out that i did. I just put a little picture of my book and that little spiel. I got three times as many calls now. Most of those people. They didn't need to sell their house right away but what was cool was. I sent him the book. They're excited they're like well. I'm getting to talk to you. They weren't saying that before. And then and then you know. I sent him the book and i just say now. Here's the deal. There's a catch you ready for the catch. And they're like all the catch. Yeah here it is. When i send you this book you just have to read it. And they're like. Oh yeah. I'll read it and then i'll be like and then. Just give me your feedback because your feedback helps make our local programs better. It's actually more valuable than you giving us money for the book and they're like no problem so now i call a week later. They don't have you know there's two kinds of calls the ones where you see it ringing in. You're like oh no that person then the one you see it and you're like this is great so we go from being. We just switched the whole thing. We don't do nothing different so it's the same marketing you will people call us. Sometimes they haven't heard about our book and they're like doing the whole. Hey i got the cheese. You want the cheese. You've gotta come over and bid on it. It's like the dmv take a number. There's just competent bunch attitude. And i'm like okay just a second. Let's just tap the breaks. So like i need you to come over here right now mike. Okay well let's just hold on. Have you got a copy of our book yet. And they're like your book and and it just kinda like slows. Everything down i go. Yeah you know. It's the step-by-step senior housing god but you don't have to be a senior to get value from chapter. Three is all the ways to sell your house pros and cons of each. I wouldn't want you to make a big mistake and rush into anything. If i sent you an autograph copy of the book today with my currier would you read it before. I come over. So they say yes. Taps the brakes on the deal. I haven't had one person sell not sell me. Their house like sell their houses. Somebody else before i came over there so people still sell their house to other people but now i don't have to race over there and then yeah opens up the churches. We have probate attorneys. That are loving what we do and they know a lot of seniors. So i have stacks of my books on their desk and they go. Hey this is my friend. He's a local author not a real estate investor scumbag. I used to call it. Probate attorneys they go. I go hey. I wanna teach some classes. I got some programs or like what do you do again. I'm like i'm a real estate investor and like oh my brother-in-law's trying to be a house flipper and the lady at targets flipping houses. I'm good thanks. But when i'm an author. When i'm an educator i'd have to go to law school to be at the same level in their mind as far as my perceive status in the community and perceive status in the community and your perceive status in the mind of your ideal prospect is a lot more valuable than what color male or what magic list or how many touches that stuff can't compete with what we have my mind goes on this maximum. We've never talked before the show so my mind goes to the are the resources we use the data to weaken adjust. Like how long. Somebody's own a house when we're building our own list thinking in my head. I'm like okay if somebody's average on his house for ten or twenty years they're going to put them closer to that senior number. Then you justin. Who's forty whose own his house for seven. So he's not probably not gonna sell it. But i get into certain i could. I could play with the date on the back end to build an avatar and build a list around this and have have it out in the dfw area in seconds it with the mailing companies. We having this it. It just blows my mind. How fits together and how easy it is and i. I know you're new book. Gives you kind of a checklist of what to build a book versus what your old ones done. So what does it new book do. And how would it help a guy like mere adam. Build our real estate empire little bit. Yeah so there's you know there's there's two ways ago get involved in a book and e book is good and y'all's evoke all books are good. The issue with an e book is that it's only it not seen it doesn't have as high of a perceived value then physical but mainly. It's just it's competing with somebody's email. Inbox and the value only gets really transferred. If somebody consumes it an eighty five percent of books that are purchased on amazon are never read. So i can't. I don't know what they are for books. And i don't know what they are for free books. So that's the only caveat that lady who called me from two years ago the reason it was real easy is because i literally have a sixteen ounce paperweight on her coffee table. If it was e book she goes back to the email from two years ago. It's harder so this book is the real estate investors book writing checklist. So if you wanna go. Diy and write your own book. This is the framework that we use when we write new books. This is exactly how you do it step by step. If i had it. I probably would have saved one hundred hours We just made it because you know through trial and error. So that's what that is and we'll put the link down below that you can get access to that we sell it. Obviously but we're going to give your audience free copy while the links up and it just it's for physical book it could be e book it could just be to make your social media You know respond better and then so folks have kind of that. Diy option and then a folks are like the. I don't have that much time. I don't want to spend one hundred hours writing a book. I just want to spend. We have an option. That's our two of their time and if some of their our content areas available and they want to license some content they can have a book and less than thirty days with about an hour of their time. So it's for busy real estate investors who understand the value of deal and it's really pretty simple. It's not as if you know if it's for you the second you hear it. It's not complicated so go ahead. I was going to be my next life. I think he just. We just changed a little bit. Just change little bit of it. I mean the prices change. If you want to call and find out we'll let you know what it all looks like and stuff but we have different promotions running but for people who already have a marketing budget when you can see everybody wants to. Everybody wants talk about leads. leads leads. Leads leads are important but guess what today is a historical event. Did y'all know that today is the easiest day in recorded human history to get leads. I mean you were just talking about the list that you can paul. We don't have a shortage of leads but we have a shortage of is mechanisms that are proven that have been proven for thousands of years to reprogram. Somebody's mind in a cellar market to immediately. Choose you over everybody else. That's the thing that i ask people if they have one of those and they don't have that but we have that and that's what we do and that's how we use it and it just works. I don't know like i would never go back to the other thing you know. It's just way better. we often talk about. How different forms leaked whether it's direct mail or e-mail drip campaigns or your social media presence you know use all these things to kind of rolled into your funnel you wanna get through but yeah no you. You're you're onto something. It's pretty neatest his. You've made yourself the expert right off the bat whether that's why you're doing podcasts. If he know you now they you take our audience for instance. We have you on here. We talked to like maxim. say now. he's he's flipped that mode in just gets us there but if in a situation where you're just touching stop touching go tight dillard's postcard or a letter or you know some kind of email drip that this gives them tangible item so my question right off the bat and this you can go into as much detail one or not but is how long does a book typically need to be in because you might be books twenty eight pages and so you have you know other people like oh i've had people ask me do you have it in a physical copy invisible copy. It's not and that's on me. I'm like oh. Maybe i should have done because the copy to just to have it. Secondly what does it cost per book as you hand that out and that's true. That's a marketing budget. That's expense so no some some some investors are gonna ask them. Those are great questions. Nobody's asked me how they should. Y'all are smart. You guys ask good questions. I've got a smaller book over here. That it won't be on the won't be on the visuals but it will be for y'all so we did this one for brant fill ups and down in houston in it's about. It's a little bit smaller. Think this is five and a half by eight and a half and it is about those seventy eight pages. So i think about sixty otherwise. It just kind of feels like a really thick napkin. Won't that yeah. But with the spacing and the formatting i mean you can you wanna get to about ten thousand words. Make a long story short. Get to about ten thousand words. You're good to go and you can create like a physical book and then Then what was the other question. How much does it cost per unit depending yes is about five bucks because there are costs are author copies so they say like my book right here. This one on the back. This i give homeowners and it's twelve ninety nine on the back. I can get these author copies for about four dollars and forty nine cents. So that's the key is like i mean honestly if you do seven yellow letter campaign a dollar a touch which you could get it cheaper but just to make the math. Easy seven bucks. You could actually just send everybody a copy of your book for the same price. They're not going to throw it away but we actually found that doesn't work sending people. The cold doesn't work. They just get all confused. It's way better. Perry marshall says to get people to raise their hand and request it so we sent out the cheapest form of male. We can't get the biggest targeted audience to raise their hand for the easiest transitional call to action offer that we can put on there that has the lowest risk to them and the highest value which is call us and get a free copy of the book and then we then we have our protocol where we send it out but by the time somebody calls you for a bug. That's a totally different lead. Lead when you go to somebody's house and they've already. I tell him to reach after three before. Come over they. They don't just read chapter three. They read the whole thing. And then i roll up. And i bring up my go. Hey do you have a copy of the workbook the workbook. I'm like well. It's forty nine ninety nine. I'm going to give it to you for free. But i'm gonna ask for something in return one you love me sign it and can i get my picture with us. And they're like this is amazing and then we go through this stuff together. And i'm like well. Do you think maybe some of your kids like would want to talk about this stuff. Like i make all the decisions around here. I'm like i know. I know i know you do mavis. But here's here's what i'm trying to say. Is there anybody that if you didn't reach out to them they would let them know what we're doing here. They would just get offended. They're like oh yeah. You know my son-in-law nebraska and this person in florida well you know how the game works when you call those people up and they don't know you they don't trust you. They don't like that you're helping their parents and they're not. They're on red friend trying to sell that thing for one percent. They're cutting you out of the deal but when you call you just a hey morgan with your mom a local author and i want to send you a copy of our book so you can participate too. We can all jump on zoom call and handle this situation together and help each other. It's a whole that's a whole nother way to buy houses. There's nothing there's nothing that's even related to people. Go buy houses and like how do you do. They tell me. It's nothing like how i do it. I do as well. Max but kept a little longer than we normally run with. I i'm full of smiles and laughs about this one. I think it's genius way. And i think it's a cool thing. I'm going to pull a free copy of your book when you have that for the lincoln. An adam at the bottom of show notes for everybody's but any last closing words you give to our audience of loved every second of this. You know the reason the book works. We had a lady one of our guys in one of our citizens san jose. Big money out there. We need to do deals out there. Every house is one point seven million. It's unbelievable he showed us some comments that the lady who's helping the family that he's helping put and it feels good because there are there are thousands of families out there. That really need help. They need help from somebody. And so it's amazing how the lady said in the most recent comments she goes you know i liked how in the book you showed all the different options. Not just the one that you you know what i mean. I was just buying houses. The regular way i mean i was trying not to talk about agents because i wasn't licensed at the time then i got license but then i wasn't talking about red fin. I wanna talk about purple door. Know whatever color door you like. And so i would just say when you when we elevated the mission above just us getting rich and actually trying to help these people whether we bought their house or not business got better for us and when we start teaching people showing them all the options In this way it made a big difference. You don't have to have a book to do that. It just helps. If you do help thinking in my head as i hit we have guest on like this. And i'm really into the show like my head go head. Space pose a million miles an hour. Certainly i get right now. My head is thinking the biggest transfer of wealth and knowledge happening right now with the baby boomers the baby leaving the market. They're going into retirement homes. They're starting to leave the workforce so whether it's knowledge or property whether it's rural like we deal mostly or single families or those. Those baby boomers are actually own multifamily. You have this transfer the has to happen and not many experts on it. 'cause nobody's done this. This is this is never been happened in history by the amount of transferring so positioning yourself as an expert in your niche with that transfer knowing that my mind right now is going. We should have a book on selling. The family farm is how to be the guy that helps them sell the family farm because we are probably gonna buy it by the ranch and sell it by the pasture and they need to know that front. They're okay with that but the kids don't want they just want cash. Mom and dad went another being taken care of and it's with a respectful group. And when you do something like this with a book you hey we'll help you write that manuscript and then we'll license it to people who are doing the same thing and markets you're not in all over that's a great idea every nationwide bought and sold in forty two states in the last five years i. It's a good thing for us. But i i love the idea. I think we can make that happen. Because i i agree Like i in my my father-in-law right. Now he's seventy four and he's meeting with his money guy to make sure that he's got the trust set up the right way. The kids that have he's retired. Doctor retired colonel military so he has a lot of moving parts in his question to me is like what what do we do like. How do we do this. How do we protect yourself. What is the savings we can do. And those are the those are the type questions that our parents are asking. We're in that we're the kids to those people and we should be the ones that solving. Unfortunately it's new to ever in in figuring that out so man. I love what you're doing a really do at its. It's super interesting. And i'm glad you found that niche therefore for your group if people wanted to find users go to count. Yeah so they can go to We'll put the link down below. Our company is deals chasing you dot com and then if they go forward slash. Sou t. h. e. y. They can download long as links up. They can download a copy of our newest book. And then there's some videos and resources and you can learn how to implement this in your own local market because it it truly is a superpower. I'm not going basket. I guys will get up there. Check it out. I have the lincoln show notes Take advantage of that. And that's ever today so Maxwell really appreciate you coming on the show. It's great information as always do us a favor or go to facebook graham you to give us a like hall subscribing to where ever else listen just like. Why would you cry. see you guys.

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"John j william bats the podcast. John j willing backs on. Espn radio the espn app and espn news presented by progressive insurance guests. Join via the goodyear hotline. You can have dr pepper of call in line or twitter feed at key j. maxx eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six eight eight eight say. Espn what's up. Look like a great shot of the east river that jay's boat coming to pick him up before they go yeah. I got my boating pants on today. It's a nice day to be on the water today. East river only east rivers will quick little quarter mile to brooklyn. How many times have you jet skied. In max keller jet skiing in any i know cleaned it up. I'm not jet. Skiing in the east river never know river. You pass the test. Yeah no. I grew up in new york. I'm not jet skiing at any river in new york city. Nfl week one is here guys. Wait. i'm sorry yeah. I just noticed. Do you. does your shirt say waffle house on it. Yeah where'd you kill a day. When i was how much i love the waffle house when i was in north carolina school. So this is a retro t shirt. I didn't get it from the actual Restaurant you can buy t shirts at the retro place. And so it's just a t shirt off lawson the nike. That's some double talk right there. That's j j just said we're giving him problems about saying he likes the waffle house. You gotta schwab will how shirt on then turn around and be like no no no. I didn't get it at the restaurant. I just bought it somewhere else. Oh get out of the house. I know it is the waffle house is good when you get a chicken breasts waffle and that's it. I can't get anything else from their your staying in shape and it has to be four. Am in the morning dot club. Exactly you know. What tom it is all right week. One in the nfl is here. Know tony gonzalez said on. Good morning football that. The titans offense is probably unstoppable. How good can tennessee this season. They pick up julio jones. You're arguing about wideouts earlier. I think the best tandem one to be. Julio jones and aj brown but what's the ceiling for the titans offense key think the ceiling is right where set already They're not going to change their stalin their approach at all. And i know what. Tony's saying you add a guy like julio jones to the mix. You're getting a bona fide playmaker. Who can do some things in the passing game now. Corey davis was there a year ago in corey davis basically. Let's round the numbers up. He's a thousand yard receiver. Aj brown's the thousand yard receiver. Julio jones is not all of a sudden becoming an eighteen hundred yard receiver. Because they're not gonna take the ball away from derrick henry on the offense aside that offense goes because a deer kerry canton hill lead them to a super bowl with this offense of roster. Absolutely one hundred ninety nine point nine percent. But there's a big but they're in. The bud is defense assignable. That's the tennessee. Titans problem is the defensive stop nosebleed. They can't stop a nose bleed at all. It can't catch a cold in alaska on a rainy day. That is the god honest true offensively. They got some playmakers at some pieces. No question about it. But they're not gonna air it out fifty five times a game to take advantage of julio jones. Just they're not gonna do it. So i hear you saying there's there's a difference between a dude putting up numbers or using him a certain way and the threat he presents and just his his level of excellence that he brings to the field on every play. That can make the team better right. Julio jones doesn't have to put amazing numbers if he's still julio jones it's gonna make you better. Does the defense good enough for them to challenge this season or because he named a key line they cannot stop nose bleed on defense but the offense they got a whole lot right now. I will probably have them bitter sixth in. Afc do you guys think. That's reasonable. I might have a little lower casey bills Browns baltimore baltimore. Yeah both sides about the you still got osler kohl's so don't don't count. How don't forget about new england new england. We have to take a step forward miami. I just you know i. I sometimes think that i know key says that. They're not going to change their offense. But if you're talking about their office right and he'll did throw for four thousand dollars. Last year was another very torture's illegal sanders still gonna play through derrick henry. Yeah they not just not just not yet thought process in what they've done in the past in typically win teams. Do something and had the success at doing that. They don't all of a sudden go the total opposite way. They don't have to though to get like if you have who jones in aj. Brian you could still run the ball and playthrough derrick henry but now you are better because you're more threatening in in the passing game and the vertical passing game. They should be like the offense. Okay forget about the defense for a second. Where's the offense rank their their offense probably in the i would say in the teen somewhere probably like i would say maybe like eight to ten. But if that's the case key isn't that i think tanna hills like i said to you you can win the super bowl with tannehill. I get it. But towing gonzales said unstoppable. It unlike know. What i'm saying is if you have that offense and you swapped out ten hill with even a guy like josh allen. Would you then think they have an elite offense. In other words this commentary on tanna hills ability to put him eighth or tenth with everything they have often. It's not even necessarily about tannehill is more about what rabl in the former offers a coordinate and arthur smith who by the way is no longer there. So there's a change they are. He's in atlanta as the head coach. So it's more about that than it is about tanny hill having the ability to do anything tenny. You'll has the ability. It's all about the system. If i took you and put him in in in bryant nabil's off into buffalo. What all of a sudden tannehill my look different. Okay hill was in miami with adam gates. He couldn't play cowboy move. Well that's by the way that's your best argument for our previous. It's like we're not all talk. Sometimes it's a conversation. Sometimes it's an argument. You don't have to go looking for one. But if it's there we can't talk. Tannahill is a good quarterback. He's obviously like he was a bust until he was in a good situation and it turns out he's good. There's another guy with a lot of promise right now. Whose team is being picked by most finished fourth because of division. So good and that's cuyler murray in arizona. Who has he has a lot of upside right. Has more to prove. Between tannahill. And kyle murray. I think i think it's me. Personally i think is of murray. And the only reason why Murray is because there's so much riding on getting the cardinals over the hump and into the play offs Ryan tannehill is already done that twice for the tennessee. Titans so when you look at it. That's the like okay. We're pressures on me. I've done my job not so much for kyle. Murray include kingsbury in arizona. Kyla mary individually has flashes and of showing you. Okay his in this within this system. What he's doing okay. He's cool but he's yet to get them over there plus he's playing for the money right. He's got the they got a fish option. Got long term extensions coming. He's doing all of those things. I would say i would agree or key column colomer just because of if cliff. Kingsbury is not the head coach of that organization. Caligiuri isn't going to high in the draft is that is that fair to say that high i i. I'm probably with you on that day. I don't know that he becomes the number one overall pick or any other organization in head coach other than cliff kingsbury. But i think he gets a chance to play in the nfl and he probably probably goes lower in. The i mean basically went one the year before in other words like that kind of quarterback and cuyler merwin is better than baker. But what i would say max. It wasn't the cleveland. Browns bacon wouldn't have goal number one overall. And i know that i know that matter matter of fact the accent all and that drives some people within the organization at the time. I didn't want john dorsey to select baker mayfield. Yeah but it was dorsey pick. It was a weird drowsy water year to in terms of like guys like baker. Who don't check every box. Don't normally go ahead of guy like darnold who does and saquon went. Second and usually a running back doesn't go the second that was a funky kind of draft. I think it's unanimous on it is unanimous on cuyler. Murray having more to prove tannahill but for me it's it's comes down to availability key. This is something you talked about yesterday. Like if he's the size he is in place the way he does. You know what happened last year to arizona. He got the shoulder injury. They stopped running him and then he couldn't throw it the same way right but does stay healthy key. I love cuyler upside. Yeah yeah within within that system right because he he. His talent is good but all people the coach. This game don't like his size. I was told once by hall of fame coach. Man do told me is nothing wrong with having smaller players. I just had too many of them. Because if i have too many of guess what you don't have to get fired Keyshawn j. will. Max is presented by progressive insurance insurance for motorcycles boats in rv's for protection on the road on the water. See how much you can save in as little as three minutes one eight hundred progressive and progressive dot com. Espn football analyst harry. Douglas joins us on the goodyear hotline. Right harry were just chopping it up about who has more to prove tanna hill or cuyler. Murray who has more heart I'll say i'm i'm gonna have to go with calamari calamari because i mean both of these guys at the quarterback position. They both have weapons but ryan tannehill has been to. Afc championship game. Ryan hill went to the playoffs last year. Now i know that was on the shoulders of henry Those two years but you look at his numbers and he didn't turn the football overseas efficient Coming into this year for ryan. I just wanna see him do it with his arm. In addition of julio jones can allow that to occur because he's not gonna be able to stack the box with the hearing leave. aj brennan. Julio jones went on one when it comes to college murray. He has an arsenal as well Will you talk about office line. You talk about the to to to deepen the running back position therefore deep at the wire receiver position tidy and probably not so much. But i think the arizona cardinals have to prove a lot and make it to the playoffs this year. So i'm gonna go with calemburg harry we talk about the titans. Everybody says oh well you know. They had corey davis and he was able to perform at a high high level last year. And now they bring in. Julio jones can you describe to us how is it different house. Julio jones different for ryan tannehill in this offense than what corey davis was well. I say there's a lot to a lot of people when it comes to. Julio jones i it's it's it's very luxurious when you have a guy that's who who's double coverage and you can do it them no matter what he's probably gonna catch the football. You don't have many luxury with guys like that in. Nfl across the board period. Or julio jones man he runs routes like he's a small guy he gets in and out of breaks like a small guy. He's fast explosive right. He makes the contested catches. He's physical he brings a physical nature to the game. So we're ryan. There's a lot of times where he can get in trouble and he can take his turn. Take his time and takes turns throwing throwing distorted daisy brown just throwing it the julio jones so now you have two guys in that receive a core or physical or dominant who's going to beat one on one coverage so now you could take more chances as a quarterback. It's interesting listening to you. Talk about julio jones because this is a little kind of i don't know issue for me the way we perceive wideouts in the nfl where it changes every couple of years. Who were the top three. You go back a couple of years. It was in whatever order. Julio jones antonio brown and odell beckham junior right no one mentions those guys as the top three wideouts anymore and julio jones lost an offensive coordinator and that hurt the offense and antonio brown hadn't really been on the field and odell got hurt but are we sure that those guys aren't still there like is is when you look at julio jones Harry do you see a guy who is physically different than he was a couple years ago when he was considered the guy. You wanted wide out. Well all i can tell you this right now. I know he's hungry. He's waiting to play this year and he's don't show everybody why he's the best it in the game yesterday. Julio jones went up man is healthy. Man that's received the game he has the ucsf on talk one hundred. I guess it's it's no is hands down. It's is no even no competition comes because you look at last year. He didn't even played that last year and still had over seven hundred yards. Think about that though. I tried to get a lot of people are the mayor. Hardly played last year. Steelhead over seven hundred yards receiving. Think think about that. You told us closer. This is your former teammate. We're talking about max even though it was my former team me who who the last five or six years who was the best receiving the game. Man i'm listening. It is his former team. When i listen to keith. Talk about guys. But but the max. Harry is correct. I agree right julio. Julio jones ridiculous when he's healthy there's no question about it. The only problem that i have with it is based on being in the nfl. Much like harry and knowing that people don't change their identity and that's the only problem yes he'll be able to garner double coverage in mismatches and things of that nature but there's always a but in here because rabl isn't going to. He doesn't want to throw the ball sixty times gang. So are we taking full advantage of. Julio jones or we're just gonna fit him in in hope that he gets the double coverage that open up things for dare to continue to gas the defenses harry. I'll go ahead. let let let me say this. Let me say this really quick. Ki ki I think that's going to be more so on todd downing right office coordinator like i think. That's a challenge for him. Coming in. okay. We gotta julio jones we gotta. Aj brown we still have a kyrie. His job is to figure out. How do i make all of this work. I how do i make this thing. Slow because you can't forget that they're hearing deleting rushing last. Two years brown had a thousand yards last year. But i feel like a julio's the type of guy who can have three catches four hundred plus yards brand of the same way he can have three or four catches for a hundred yards so and julio's type of receiver. Who's going to be like man. I gotta get the ball. You gotta throw it to me ten twelve times the game. He's not like that. I played with them. I know his boss said he just wants to be fishing and he wants to put his team in position to win. What did you think about that prescott. Starting tomorrow night being awful year with that ankle injury and a little bit a shoulder. Soreness playing against his vaunted tampa bay buccaneers defense. Well kelly moore mike mccarthy but i have a damn good plan. I'm gonna tell you that. That's the first thing i'm gonna tell you. Because that tampa bay defence they may ready man they they ride the house to win the super bowl ring last year so you have to be careful in the way you do things and do i do. I feel like that can go into this game and throw this football fifty times. No can't do that and i know. Tampa one of the They i think they were the best rush defense lashing. Nfl but at the same time you have to believe in yourself as office during the cowboy. Okay forget all the and stuff at the end of the day. If you wanna one matchups can you win. The line of scrimmage right my offense salon versus digits live right by my tight ends in h back fullback wherever you wanna call it versus there. Live right 'cause then you notice and the end of the day. It's kim my kid we went. I wanna one matches because if you wanna what matchups you can go ahead and count it out. You're not going to be productive league. Hurry as we enter the first weekend of the nfl. Wh what's the biggest most interesting storyline to you. I think for me. I think it's hot mini Matchups we have in week one outside of the tdy deal. And i don't understand what the steelers got. Got going on because tj why it's only been great What would it comes rushing quarterback getting in his in his pass rush great but outside of that i think all the premier match that we have in the lead to start week one. I don't remember a time Not recently where week one with was so exciting because of the matchups. You have with teams harry. I don't remember a time talking to harry. Douglas ronchi keyshawn j. max. I don't remember a time when i thought that five first round quarterbacks all had a chance a good chance to be longtime successful starters in the league. But that's what i see with these five guys. Who do you think. Short-term has the best chance to succeed and who. Who would you put your money on long-term term as the best of this group. Well i'll say short-term it has to be john and i say that because say that because of josh mcdaniels bill belichick and what surrounded him around right especially of free agency You have how coming back. Defensively what they're going to be on the defensive end and then secondly I would go with freelance. Because of cow shanahan and his process of play caller and their defense and everybody. They have coming back. But i'm high-ozone wilson. I'm wilson i loved intangibles. He has a love his bravado I don't think new york market near media is going to be too much for him and he just has it back to me. He just he just has. And i tell people all the time. And i love my for love matt ryan. That's my god. Love marcus mariota was my god but if i had to pick one guy that i could've played with i i could choose the who wants to play with this one year i would have picked aaron rodgers and right now that wilson reminds me so much of rogers harry douglas. Ladies and gentlemen harry. Thanks a lot a lot for jumping on with us. Espn football analysts. On the goodyear hotline. Thanks harry key. I'm gonna check wilson aaron rodgers. Then sam darnold must be case keenum. I want to ask you the same question of these. Five first rounders. First round quarterbacks key who in the short run will be more successful in the long run. I mean obviously we don't know it's a guest but who'd you put your money on. I'm gonna. I'm gonna put my money on. She's okay so let me. Let me scratch that. Let me rephrase the question for you to meet less who will have more wins short term versus long term. Let's do it that way. Because because i don't know where trae lance is gonna take over or i don't know when justin feels are gonna take over but i do know mac. Jones is sitting in the seat right now and he has a team that is built around him to make a strong playoff run. In new england in new england. He can win a whole lot of games just managing the situation it till he grows into a potential. Tom brady year nine type guy. What about long. What about long-term jay. Who do you think long term. It's gonna be hard me when trae lance actually gets the ball in that kyle shanahan offense if they can maintain their defensive the way they play that that he has a chance to be really special. You know it's crazy to guys because when you think about the you expanded a little bit and look at the second year quarterbacks joe boroughs in a terrible situation he such a stud and and you look at what justin herbert did as a as a rookie was. It's there's a good chance. He's a top five quarterback by the end of this year. People have said as high as like a top three quarterback right. He's differently talented. And then you know you can't count out to our j. with her. There's so much young talent max. Why is he all of a sudden top. Three top five and he heard for talent. Why i'll tell you. Why is that the case. Because he wasn't that two years ago nobody was like well but three years ago he was three years ago. It was tank for herbert right. But let's put it this way key. I'll i'll say this. There are two dudes to me who are differently talented. There's mahomes and rogers in their own little category and then you could talk about the best of everyone else. I know brady. Brady's also there but we're talking about physical gifts right. I don't see josh allen quite in that group. I don't see a lamar jackson quite in that group. When i look around. And i see who could potentially be. He'd be he wouldn't be first or second he'd be third but i could put in that separate category based on herbert just did as a rookie key his small sample. It's a full full season. But it's one season. Max when you say. You don't put josh allen and lamar jackson in which catholic mahomes rogers talent category justin. Herbert was making throws consistently for a bad team. A losing team a coach that no longer has his job a guy who wasn't even supposed to start. Who had to take the ball last minute like you couldn't do much better i. He's he's a shortlist of seasons. Ever lamar jackson is a different type of talent. That's true that's true. Lamar almost has to be put in his own category. It's a different talent. If i told you if i told high if i told you that tom brady. Yeah tom brady. Tom brady for example. If i told you the tom. Brady threw for four touchdowns you would say. Wow we really liked their right but that number whatever that number is mathematically and i told you to lamar jackson account for forty touchdowns twenty on the ground twenty in the air. It's the same number it is but but but there are attendant issues. Like if you fall behind beat you from the pocket all that so i agree with you. Lamar is unique. Lamar is kind of his own separate category. But i'm talking about throwing the football like overall ability at quarterback. Josh allen is getting there he i think he did but i just never if he can repeat what you just. Okay let me ask you both most of the time when quarterbacks like just just check the math when quarterbacks like justin herbert's start off at the level they didn't finish that no they continue to stay that way they don't drop off. Well you better look. This is what i want to know about your fancy analytics in your numbers. Keyshawn all test. That's why guys like dan marino in troy aikman in those guys. Steve young stayed around for so long in their careers when they start off a certain way they don't fall off a clamming up coming up i need to ask these two former athletes about the athlete eyeball test on just in herbert. I don't wanna know about keyshawn fancy calculations keyshawn j. max is presented by progressive insurance. Let's continue this guy's at has columbia. Now is the time to celebrate the. Nfl is finally back and draft. King's the official daily fantasy partner. The nfl has millions of reasons why you should be excited partner. The nfl has millions of reasons. Why you should be excited. Did you hear that millions to kick off the football season. Dr king's is giving new customers. A free shot at one million dollar top prize with a total of four million dollars up for grabs for thursday's opener getting in on thursday nights single game showdown is easy. Listen up dropped six players from the season opener. 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Am eastern on espn radio and espn plus all right when we left when we last saw you on keyshawn j. max. We were debating something that i teased for this segment. If i can remember what it was. I i'd be in great shape. Does anyone recall the debate that we had the end of the last going into the last commercial. Break just in herbert. the most. What's that. We're just doesn't herbert the most skilled quarterbacks right justin herbert to me. This past season guys had a rookie year. Unlike any since dan marino. Even if you adjust for the for the era. And i would say. That's the reason keyshawn that i would put him in the top five by the end of this year. Maybe even the top three and say he's differently talented than everyone else. He's got a lot of talent and coming out of school I've had the opportunity to see him. Play live in person. Probably i dunno. I probably seen him play a little bit over a handful of times up. Close in person I had an opportunity to see him play against arizona. State and hermit words in the desert wind down watched from the sideline wanted to see what he was all about and walked away. So i'm play against. Usc walked away saying he's the top quarterback in college football. I don't down what the hype machine is telling me about. Joe borough or two or any other guys that came out with him. I know what i saw. My eyes in. My eyes told me that he was going to be a quarterback in this league that was going to have success for a very long time. Unfortunate for tyrod taylor. To start a last year he thought he was gonna be the starter and then a had a little medical mishap and he had a medical mishap a little bit and so he had to give way to justin herbert. And since then he's moved on to become the starting quarterback of the houston texans. So you know when you look at it. Justin herbert has all the ability in the world. There's no question about it. I just you got to take these things in baby steps. I think he will continue to elevate his game. Because i've never seen quarterback start off hot like that in the fall off a cliff key really fits here for this conversation about About where just in. Herbert can be baby steps. Right because you know just as one season doesn't define carson wentz neither does season defined justin herbert to me and one of the things i've seen it might be different in the nfl. The quarterback position. But i know about this in professional sports that first year in a pandemic when a lot of different things are going on and i'm not saying that teams aren't doing their homework but there's not a large sample size and large body of work for a team to really dig into on how they scout you how they prepare for you. And you gotta. He's going to have to make the adjustment to the adjustments. That's what i want to see this. This one i do that at that same asked you before the break was. We can talk about sample sizes. We can talk about keys analytics that he loves to get into. I mean as former highly eyeballs. The athlete eyeball test. When you put your expense. Justin herber special key. Let me ask you. Do you know what. I mean when i say there's mahomes and rogers and then everybody else and that herbert could be third in that group or at least i see him if he's not in that group and he's the leader of the pack of the rest or you just don't see that you see qualitatively when you look at her. You don't see something different than even like josh allen or someone look at. I look at when you start talking about making all the throws doing some of the things you can go right up to the pacific northwest and look at russell wilson. Russell wilson doesn't have the ideal size as those other guys will. Patrick mahomes is not that tall but he doesn't have that strong. Thanks to six. Three or six six. Like justin herbert. But he can make all the throws probably the best deboer throw in the national football league. So i don't look at it based on those sorts of things the same way you do i look at it like you said with my eyes and i can tell you i hate to say it. I can tell you whether the duke play that. I'm an instinct evaluate. Yes i am. I can do get off the bus and tell you if we put him on the bus just for show to be a show pony or really is going to be a baller now by the way i hear that keep you know marcellus wiley maxim ourselves. I don't even know who. That is. Where i n seven ten. Am network is but the point is the point is i asked him once. What bill parcells guy. You played for key. What was his best attribute as a coach and he said he can go out and watch guys warming up and just blinked. Look at them for a second. Watch them for ten twenty thirty seconds and tell you everything. They can be accurate about what they can do what they can't do. Somehow he could size guys up so when key. Someone who's very very experienced at a high level like says. yeah. I can size up. I think there is something to that. That's why i'm asking though when you look at herbert you say. I don't even look at him like that but when you do you don't know what i'm talking about when i say he's differently talented he he. He is but it's hard at right now today to gauge against three guy. Two guys that got three. Mvp's in two super bowls and three super bowl appearances in a host of other accolades to measure him against in sixteen weeks. He's certainly headed in the right direction. But you wouldn't be saying these sorts. Here's what's so funny about spores. We wouldn't even be sitting here having these types of crazy conversations all time about patrick mahomes winning six championships in the next two years and all of the weird stuff right he can do it. All jimmy garoppolo had to do was hit emmanuel sanders and we will be sitting there. Going damn can't one mahomes can't win the big one. Yeah yeah yeah. He's not wrong. I mean that's the way it works. 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This is amazing arm of the year. This is what we talked about. This is real many reading. This is scott van pelt. And i'm ready. This keyshawn johnson the tampa bay buccaneers read. This is stanford steve. I'm ready. this is the bear i'm ready. Football is back and it kicks off every morning you onto will and max and continues all day on espn radio. I believe the cleveland. Browns are the biggest threat to kansas city in the afc town. Beco- i am so bullish on the kansas city chiefs should be wondering if this team can go undefeated this year. Keyshawn j. maxx on. Espn radio the espn app espn news. Here's the question guys. Will it be a disappointment for the chiefs key. Just brought brought it up. Shanahan design the play manual. Sanders is open jimmy. She just missed him. If jimmy g. hits them we're sitting here going can. Is he going to be like marino. Right can can mahomes ever win the big one and get over the hump but instead it feels like they win the super bowl every year. 'cause if not for a pre snap penalty they probably win the super bowl a couple of years ago ramps then they win the super bowl and then if not for their offensive line of clearly. There were extenuating circumstances in the super bowl last year. So andy roddick if there are that they're in the mix every year andy. Reid patrick mahomes are now a version of what brady and belichick were in the sense that we everyone anticipates every year right. Would it a disappointment if they don't make it back to the super bowl jack. Yes he's i mean for for a team that's been the back to back super bowls. Yes it would be. It's either super bowl or bus. And i hate using the bus word but when expectations are excellent each and every year the town that they have when you have a guy who was a super bowl champion super bowl. Mvp an mvp back-back super bowl opportunities for patrick mahomes with ivan. The question with the talent that they have disappointment if they don't get all the way back to the super bowl. Yeah i think it would be a bit of a disappointment based on what you just laid out max racks you laid out. If wasn't for tow. Then they go to the super bowl whether they win or not against the rams then they go and they win and then they lose against the buck so essentially. let's just say they were gone to three straight super bowls. So it's like watching the chicago bulls or even the new england patriots. It's like oh or the dynasty lakers super bowl or the yankees world series. And then it doesn't happen. You like wait a minute man. We did all this for nothing. And that's the way the new england that's the way the kansas city chiefs will be viewed this year. If they don't make it back to the super bowl win or lose. I wanna go back to what you said because i think it's right about jimmy g. Like if he hits that passed and all. We're looking at homes differently you know. The buffalo bills went four straight years and jim. Kelly can't get over the hump and everything so but there's some mahomes. His talent is so eye-popping. It's aaron rodgers is like i don't know if i'd seen that but only roger stores some. Houdini like thing he does. he's light. Who deep like even this last super bowl. The plays all remember or from the losing quarterback who put up bad numbers because he did superhuman things and then and then you look at the start of his career. You mentioned j. Mvp super bowl mvp right. He has all this. he's one play away and it wasn't. His plate was the other dude who didn't hit it from being a guy who maybe can't get over the hump. Are we expecting too much from this team from the homes and the chiefs were expecting them to be there every single year. Don't you think they expect to be there every single year. A lot of teams do no up but not not the same clip that kansas city would be. I mean if you're kansas city of your patrick mahomes every single year that that's why you you're considered to be people have compared i'll say it again ki- it happened last year. I heard it. Jeff donaldson came on our show and said patrick. Mahomes is a chance to be the jordan. Been saying that yeah. That's that's high high expectations that's every single year. You're competing for a championship. So they have the same patience key. You know why. Jordan is an interesting comparison to me because like tom. Brady's the goat that doesn't make you. Mj mj is the guy who was obviously physically better than everybody. And then also put up the best numbers by far and then also one. All the time like brady wasn't obviously i test better than everybody right. Didn't always put up the best numbers but he won all the time you at other guys like dan marino. Who was like. Oh my god that guy just better but didn't win all the time right put up. The numbers was test. Mahomes has a chance to be everything. Could he be the jordan of the nfl key. See it's hard for me to mitch and jordan and patrick mahomes because jordan did so much for the game and it's just different. It's hard for me to do that. Because i don't just look at jordan as a basketball player. I look at him as iconic ridiculous like once in a lifetime type individuals. So it's it's it's hard. I think patrick mahomes is based on the sport and he plays in his own separate type category and his physical tools. Certainly displays that now again if you go back and you look at that throat emmanuel sanders we would be talking about the chiefs in patch mahomes a little bit different almost like we talked about aaron rodgers right now. Air rogers won one super bowl but he hadn't been back he puts up a lotta yards. He gets the mvp's so it's a lot of pressure on him to finish the deal because clearly he has the ability to do that but then again he'll be in the same breath as breath far he wants to separate itself from that g one thing home now what you're saying to be separated from all the other guy one thing about what you're saying about jimmy g. though is in that same people. Can patrick. Mahomes did call his own number. Take like a fifteen step dropping through a sixty yard pass. Like i think he also did something in the affirmative that was like oh that was a gutsy. Play a big big time. Throw at a huge moment. I think if you took that away now you're really looking at okay. Got there was some luck involved. But once once you add that play it elevates what mahomes did i think well anytime you can go a three straight championships. Go to the super bowl twice. You got a lot of talent like he's ridiculously good I just wanna see him win a couple more championships before starting the greatest of all time all right so i ask him jackets okita project like little hyperbole in my heart salute i don't want driving all the hyperbolic statements out of sports reading next on. Espn radio john. J enact back tomorrow thanks for listening to keep well and max the podcast check the guys out live weekday mornings from six to ten eastern on espn radio.

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Hour 1: Maverick Money

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46:02 min | 2 months ago

Hour 1: Maverick Money

"Gatorade knows there are many paths to greatness. How you get there is up to you. Sometimes you got to grind it out to get up early and put the work even when you're not failing a hundred sometimes. It takes thank focused on a goal knowing where you wanna be and you'll have to pour everything into get their other times. You just need to dig deep. Show some guts to be brave and never let anything stand in the way of what you want to accomplish. Then there are the days you have to get in the gym and see some gains to put an all the reps and get stronger each day. But whatever path you take to greatness. Gatorade is there to help fuel. The journey because greatness starts with g. is just getting paid these days not really at all Doing on everybody workman. I take thing you for being with us max keller superstars do get paid. Yes difficult time. yes sir. They produce they deliver and they receive. And that's where we're starting. What's going on stephanie. Hey dallas fan smiling today guys. Luca danni accomplished players in nba history at the age of twenty two years old agreeing to a five year. Two hundred seventy million dollar supermax rookie extension with the mavs. Did you hear me. Two hundred and seventy million. Don just finished his third season in the league becomes the first player eligible for the designated rookie max extension upon signing. Because he's is already been twice voted first team all nba. The deal includes a player option in the final year that according to woge. He's david what should we expect from. Luca more to say You should expect to do. That's going to go out there. And average twenty five at game. That's going to lead his team to the playoffs. That's going to establish himself as a superstar basketball player in this league and one who has the potential to be the face of the nba in every way shape form and fashion But also somebody who's going to be a bit truculent with the officials Somebody that's gonna have his immature moments. Somebody that is going to ultimately end up incredibly incredibly dissatisfied and less mark cuban primarily and now to a lesser degree. jason kidd. Do something about it and that means get rid of kristaps porzingis and get in a bona fide big. Tom dependable number two. Because that's really what this comes down to weaker slice in any way we want to. But that's really what this all comes down to kristaps porzingis and luke adachi aren't the ideal teammates to one another. We've heard reports about porzingis in don-shik not getting along. We've heard folks alluding to jealousy on the part of porzingis. Who's not the most reliable individual in the world. Because of his lack of durability he's fresh off average twenty points a game this season max but in the end he wasn't as big of a factor in the postseason as we all hoped he would be as you specifically hoped he would be and as a result. That's where we are. it's luca and everybody else. And if you're the dallas mavericks. Mark cuban paul. You got to do something about that. Plain and simple well. That's right. This is a debate show. But that's correct and that's what i was going to say. It is on mark cuban. Let me explain. Why like what should we expect from. Luca dodgers. you said more of the same. stephen. I just say more and more look. He has improved every season. When you look at what he did last year. Regular seasons twenty eight eight and eight guy. Cody wasn't the playoffs. Thirty six and eight so not only does he get better. Year-over-year i in the plus thirty one ten in eight. He is a superstar who elevates in the biggest moments and gets better every year and still has room for improvement. He could play better defense and he's capable of it. You could shoot it better because he gets his own shot and shoots a pretty good. He could shoot it better than he does. So there's a guy who gives you thirty six ten eight in the playoffs. He's gonna wind up doing like what harden does he's going to give you a round thirty point triple double on average for a season but unlike harden better in the playoffs. Okay now. that's what you expect from luca. What can you expect from mark cuban. That's the question now. He hired nico harrison. Stephen a the nike guy longtime kobe. Guy right and he is by reputation a brilliant and very well liked connected guy around the league and it's one of these mark cuban outside the box moves that everyone's talking about the bottom line is you are in a warm weather. Glamorous city you are in a no state income tax place. You have a history where you've won a championship and a team friendly owner in an era of big. Three's you can't get by with a big one. Maybe not even a big too but at least you need a crime. Partner for luca. Porzingas is capable of being that if he can stay healthy but in his career to date. He has not shown the ability to do that. That's the ability availability especially porzingas this case because he has to spend every year kind of getting back to where he was. He can never advance. They need to get luca. Help at least one other superstar to join him and they have unlike some cold weather small market town without any kind of history without a team. Friendly owner they have as you would say stephen a no excuses mark. Cuban has to make it happen just to be clear guys. There was an error. It is two hundred seven. Not two hundred seventy million. Just wanna make sure to clear that up. Sixty three million. They can sign a pretty good player his his deal. Max i'll say this to you once upon a time you're absolutely right about porzingis not anymore. And here's what. I mean. Even if healthy max by all the things that i've been hearing it's not gonna work. This is a guy. That has a problem with luca. Danni be in the face of the franchise. This is a guy that has a problem with being perceived as a number two. This is a guy. That has a problem with luca. Danni being bald dominant per se again. I've never asked. I haven't spoken to porzingas. I've never spoken to mark cuban about this. Let me be very very clear about it. I'm just saying based on the things that you hear in nba circles. These are the things that are being said. When something like that transpires max. It doesn't matter if you're healthy not it's not gonna work you have to have somebody that selfless and and and and then when you gotta tantalite luca danni. It's not just to be respected. It's to be appreciated shit damn near revered what the right and i think it's important that we recognize them so again when you look at it from that perspective that's what we're talking about here and if you don't have that going on if you're in the city of dallas and you are mark cuban and these guys like wait a minute here. It's like whoa. Whoa when you think about it. It's the city a dallas. And i joke around about because you know i just love to hate on the dallas cowboy fans but i know what a great sports town it is. I know what a great fan base. They have thoroughly enjoyed being there. I enjoy going back and forth with them. I've never had to go back and forth with them with the about. The cow dallas mass. Anytime i met a mavs game. They're getting on me about the cowboys but nevertheless the bottom line is that it's a great city. it's a great state note state income tax. And what have you And so metropolis will you look at. What's going on what they have going on this simply. No excuse why you haven't been able to get a free agent in a decade. It really isn't well. I agree with you about porzingas. I think a lot of that actually stems from the fact when you are diminished. It is difficult to kind of accept. Porzingas was a guy trending toward. Oh my god he's gonna score twenty five points a game with double digit rebounds and shoot the lights out as a seven foot three unicorn right but it didn't work out that way because of the injury and when you are not as effective and when the team is losing that's when trouble comes up now that was the issue with porzingas. Kenny stay healthy. The answer's no. Can you get something for him. I think the answer is yes they can. The question is is just one guy enough. It seems to me. The dallas mavericks luca a second banana and role. Players is not good enough because you look around the western conference. The warriors are going to be back with steph and clay dre and now a lot of young athletic talent including andrew. Wiggins is a real two way player. The lakers have a legitimate big three in the eastern conference. The nets have three guys who are different not to mention blake and everybody else. The mavericks are going to need a whole lot. If this was a league where they're that stuff didn't exist they'd be okay. They can flip inga's into something else. And maybe make a run but luca what a genuine all star is a second banana and what they have is not enough mark. Cuban has to figure out a way to surround luca with much. Better talent much that harrison's a good not just mark cuban and has to be jason kidd as well your point guard like for example but jason kidd was a point guard. Everybody wanted to play with. Because judge jason kidd was a guy that was was looking to distribute i. That's not necessarily luca. We know that he can but plays at his own place. He's brilliant at dictating base. And making sure that you don't rush in that. He moves at his pace. Well the the we talk about the opponents and how problematic that is for them. What we never talk about enough is whether or not. That's attractive for other teammates to want to play with just because you're great. Does it mean everybody wants to play with you. Jason kidd is going to have to make this system attractive enough to appeal to people to want to come and play with luca. It ain't just all mark. Cuban john jason kidd to yep absolutely and that's why he's the youngest player to ever to receive a two hundred million dollar contract again five years two hundred seven million to be exact all right. Let's move onto the lakers mellow and lebron a way back to my sophomore year. High speed. His junior high school. Madeira had a little bit of offensive continued family brothers but as competitors we come out to each other bron james in carmelo. Anthony had been best friends for more than twenty years and fantasized about playing together for quite some time. Well according to brian james quote the time is now i want you. We have to make this happen and they sure did make it happen carmelo signing a one year deal with the purple and gold here he is introductory press conference discussing the criticisms about waiting too long to me for years we are. We've always laughed about it and and spoke about it. Well what it would be like we. We had a little bit of experience with the usa basketball and playing together. But that's not that's totally that's totally different. Been in a situation like this. But we've we've always talked about laughed at joke about it but you know we thought that he thought at this moment now You know everything comes back all certain force and then. I think the time is now for us to be on the same team you know. They couldn't came editor at a better time thirty-seven the brasco. Thirty seven december. We don't care. Dwight's up there travers up there mark sauce up there here. We make our own narrative age. Ain't nothing but a number. Max i'll start with. You is mellow enough for the lakers to bring home the title no. He's not enough for the lakers. To bring home the title. It's not a knock against mellow is just at the brooklyn nets exists and if they are healthy they have too much firepower and the lakers constructed imperfectly. Though they did an amazing job in the off season carmelo was an excellent pick up. I think to lead your second unit. He has real value. I don't know about in the starting unit. Probably i'm guessing wayne ellington starts solar. Maybe carmelo does and they play a smaller lineup. I don't know but as as as a leading scorer in the second unit. Carmel is a really good job. But this doesn't actually affect his legacy that much if they were to win a championship. And even this should be when you talk about the pressure on russell westbrook this year carmelo should serve as a reminder to russell westbrook of that pressure every day because even if they win a championship it won't be with the carmelo anthony. It will be with an old diminished carmelo. I want to be very clear. When i thought he was cooked. I was wrong and he was right. He proved his point in. Portland is a valuable piece in the nba on on on a good nba team. He can still play. Okay i wanna make that perfectly clear but this is not carmelo anthony of half a dozen years ago. The point of that legacy was when you are still a truly great player. Can you be one of the two or three best players on a championship team. Can you have to be the very best. But can you be a second at least on a championship team. And he didn't do it maybe he could have done it. Carmella was an exceptionally exceptionally excellent player. So maybe he could have done it to be fair to carmelo. You never quite had a championship team around diddy. But he didn't do it. He wasn't in that position. He didn't put himself in that position. No one else did either. And so now. He's no longer when we talk about carmelo anthony. We're not talking about guy when we talk about him years from now. We're talking about that guy. That's why the pressure when you talk about. Westbrook is on westbrook now because if westbrook eventually wins the championship as the fifth best player on a team. That's not what we're talking about. That's gary payton an all time. Great but when we think of point guards who won championships. Gary payton doesn't jump to mind among the very best and he was one of the very best. Even jason kidd. I want to be clear about. This kid is on the fence. He won a championship when he was still really good. Was he still jason kidd. The way he wants was even that to me is borderline. It's not like what isaiah. Thomas did for example. What steph curry did for example. That's the pressure right now. On westbrook i think carmelo serves as a reminder. I think you're wrong. I think you're wrong about that. And here's why first of all when you talk about jason kidd being on a french you can say he was on the fringe but the reality was dirk. Nowitzki was at the top of his game. And the fact that in fact that you're going up against a league competition which was the big three of miami says something about it remember. We didn't think that. Jason terry was better than jason kidd. We understood that the dallas mavericks as constructed along would be an exceptionally well coached as a team ended up ending lebrons Bosch and dewayne wade in their first year miami together so nobody views jason kidd on some fringe of anything. That's max kellerman narrative. That's not anybody else. That's number one number two when you think about mellow. Let's look at what we're talking about here as we look at the los angeles lakers is lebron. John is lebron james. A top five player on the planet. Yes is anthony davis a top five player on the planet. Yes when you look at russell westbrook a-walking triple double as he is presently constructed right now. Look at what he brings to the table. He's box office. He plays at one hundred miles an hour. he goes after it. We all know what he brings to the table. Carmelo anthony was never viewed in that light. He was a prolific scorer career. Twenty four points per game scorer up until a couple of years ago we knew what he can do offensively and he was special in that regard. But when you talked about top-five plays on the planet carmelo. Anthony wasn't in that conversation and so now we fast forward to twenty twenty one twenty two season. And what do we see. Now we see do does fresh off his shooting forty percent from the field dude average thirteen game last averaging fifteen a game the year before a right covert and all of that other stuff that was going on Cj mccollum being out all of these different things happen but in the end when you look at carmelo anthony. He's six foot eight perimeter player. You still looking at him. In that regard. Clearly you can look at him and say he's not what he used to be. I'm not trying to act like that's not the case but this precipitous drop off that everybody tried to put out the about him when he couldn't get a damn job in the league and ultimately ended up being interviewed. Right here in the studio with me. You know looking for a job. It was utterly ridiculous and insane that he was ever subjected to that. And what lebron. James do at that particular moment in time the answer would be nothing. Lebron james should have been had carmelo anthony as a team. I understand that carmelo ultimately ended up going to portland. I understand that lebron. James had to come in there and say now's the time we got to get together on this but easily argument can be made. This is something lebron. James should have done years ago. Lebron james has had at least a couple of opportunities to have carmelo anthony as his teammate. At least a couple of years ago particularly and specifically we're carmelo. Anthony was unemployed and nobody in the league wanted to touch him and the did not make that happen now. He's on a lakers. Let me tell you this. Wit lebron with a d. With a guy like russell westbrook was going to create open shots. Don't sleep woman. Leak mont. don't sleep on and tucker don't sleep on these brothers if you give them wide open shots because you've got to prioritize defending the big three. They can do some things for you. That makes them a championship contender. And i'm happy that he's in los angeles and i think he makes them better not worse. I say that's my narrative. Let's put it this way. I'll give you a spectrum of credit given two point guards who won championships. you can disagree. Isaiah isaiah thomas gets more credit for his championships as the point guard. Jason kidd does because of where isaiah was in his career. At the time it was very clear isaiah was a great player. Who was probably. I would say the. It was a very good team as you go on your who was before you go on. Yeah my point. Is i understand what you're saying we're isaiah is what i'm saying is in jason kid's best day vicky was on another level. Okay that's fine. Awesome can be the second best player on the team. I mean had kid done it a few years earlier. I believe he would have gotten more credit when he was more at the height of his powers. He was still an excellent player because he was a great player but he was no longer what he wants hadn't been in my view and therefore isaiah on the spectrum of how much credit you give guys for championships is as over here. Kids over here peyton's beneath over there right in on that spectrum gets the least credit because he was least close to his prime and my point for carmelo is yes. It'd be a nice thing for him to win a championship. If he contributes valuable runner of the second unit offense focal point of the second unit offense. He will get real credit if he gets. If he's an eighteen minute a game player who plays sometimes he will get less. But at any rate it won't mean the same to his legacy. As had he done it half a dozen years ago when he went players on the team. Like for example. If you're talking to me about carmelo anthony in a role now compared to when he was with new york or denver. that's a given. But what i'm trying to say. Is that max. If he averages twenty to twenty five or twenty twenty five minutes a game right. Let's say for example. He averages fifteen to eighteen the game and come playoff tom and particularly the finals. Dust brother you go to the fourth quarter dash drilling three or four perimeter shots seeing the you. That's going to be a very valuable component. And nobody's going to be about a drop off. That's what we were custom to see from carmelo. I agree. I think that is an unlikely scenario. I'd root for it to happen. Because contrary to popular belief. I do root for for carmelo anthony. He was the one guy in twenty five years. Who was like. I want to go to the knicks. When i used to root for the knicks and i always appreciated that so i would hope that you're right i'm saying i bet you the i i would say the odds are against that that carmelo becomes an eight fifteen to eighteen points. A game score of the season and in the playoffs is even better in critical moments. But it but it would take something like that to really have an influence on his legacy lebron and russell westbrook who on a planet earth is gonna get carmelo more open shots then those to listen chuck asks different mindset. I'm happy for them. What a blessing someone you love in your thousand nine hundred season. That's incredible anybody that gets to work with their best friends or family. Those kinds of situations. Yeah has yet. His six different team in the lakers have the second best odds guys to win the title behind the brooklyn nets. What's going on everybody. I'm molly care. Rose and you're listening to the first take podcast with room. You can buy a car entirely online and having delivered straight to you. You never have to go to a dealership again. Instead of going to a dealership you can buy a car from home a park or even as you listen to this podcast literally anywhere else with room. You can browse thousands of cars in one place. 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Saw thomas suspended by the team and thomas reportedly ignored calls from saints officials for months after the season. Now with coach. Sean payton publicly lamenting thomas delaying an off season surgery. That will keep him sidelined into the fall. The wideout has implied. The saints are trying to damage his reputation. Thomas tweeting this cryptic message. They tried to damage your reputation. You save bears by not telling your side of the story. I like that quote. When asked about his. Sean payton said he's not responding to social media. Take on our guys and obviously we're focused on might get healthy but outside of that you know that's never been an issue. You want a draft. Anything vindicated today. No i don't want to have a press conference based on social media that's fair. I wouldn't either uh steven. What does this say about thomas and the leave. What's going to happen with. Michael thomas to max kellerman. It's a big issue for me. Because i don't think michael thomas looks good and all of this. I want to emphasize that. I'm not accusing him of lying. I don't know anything about what's going on other than what's reported. I haven't spoken to him. I'm quite sure his truth is his truth authentically to him and i get all of that and i understand what i want to ask. Michael thomas respectfully to do is pay attention to the optics in late. Two thousand and jill in late july of two thousand and nineteen michael thomas age twenty six a wide receiver in the national football league received a one hundred million dollar contract over five years from the new orleans things with sixty one million dollars in guarantees at that particular moment in time he was the highest paid wide receiver. And i think non quarterback in the history of the national football league at that particular moment of time. I'm sure was wide receiver. I'm not sure whether or not it was every other position quarterback but it was exorbitant dollars guarantees and we didn't see that every day and then suddenly we have all of these issues now we know yet like torn deltoids. You know ligaments in his ankle. Or something like that. If i remember reading about it and and because of that daddy wasn't healthy. My point is max and molly. The season ended for you in january. What the hell was surgery in june about that would be february march april and may before june. That's at least four full months. What the hell were you doing that. You couldn't get operated on. Nf four-month period now if it's the organization and that's what you're implying most professional athletes would exorbitant contracts. That i know are big on second opinions. So if it's the saints must've been somebody else and if it wasn't to say to anybody else what the hell was the four months about. Because you know you've got football season coming up. Why are you waiting until june. And reason i'm asking that question is because if i remember correctly correct me if i'm wrong molly imacs. Isn't that what sean pay in how to issue it. Isn't that what the report said we two weeks ago. That shawn payne had a problem with the fact that the surgery was in june. And so we understand all it. Now this is michael thomas here. Hundred and forty nine receptions one hundred twenty five the year before that three hundred and twenty seven catches over the first two years of his over the first three years of his career. So you had a quarterback drew brees throwing the football. Last time i checked. We looked at the new orleans saints and even though pete carmichael was an offense coordinator office coordinator. We look sean payton. As the primary play caller for the new orleans saints will want michael. Tom getting the ball that much. Because that man is relying on you and if he's relying on you and then you got surgery in june when you knew you had the injury. All season ended in january. It's hard to look at him and say well damuda victim because the coach has every right to look at you and saying i sincerely hope exhaust every means and measure to make sure you go be here. 'cause i invested this hundred million dollars and you for a reason which was twenty million a year which was more. Julio jones was getting paid at the time. Max deaths where. I'm that with it. Well my impression is michael. Thomas is not long for the saints. I don't think he wants to be there. I don't think they want him there about a year ago. He was on top of many lists as the best wide out in the game. Let's not forget when that long ago. Who would put them in the best out in the game right now. Now what's happened in the last twelve months. He got hurt at affected his game. Obviously you're gonna affect your game. He was in a locker room brawl. He had social media beefs including with the saints but most importantly even a drew brees is gone. Do breeze retired and not only does that mean. The most accurate quarterback in the history of football is not throwing the ball to one of the best hands in the history guy catches everything. But it means he's being replaced with guy through thirty interceptions when last playing a full season and a guy who hasn't played quarterback for much of his career as his primary position. Michael thompson can't be happy about that. And drew brees. Was his public booster of his right of course and his receiver. He's now gone. stephen. What's happening with michael thomas. And i don't think thomas wants to be there for the reasons i just pointed out and from the saints point of view this is something that marcellus wiley used to bring up a maximum ourselves. You'll radio show in la stephen. He said when personality doesn't match production. That's when you have a problem. They'll put up with the personality as long as there's production but when the production falls off and if micheal thomas is not healthy he's not going to be able to produce maybe if drew brees is their that also. Isn't there that also affects that when the production falls off. Suddenly they don't want to deal with the personality for that reason. I do not think. Michael thomas will be for much longer. I ask one question to both of you. Really quick stephen and then go ahead one thing. I don't totally understand what max just said. Is i understand. Michael thomas not wanting to be there with tastes hill or jameis winston. Throwing him the ball. But why do you think the saints wouldn't want him and stephen f. because russia because the speed is affected. His game is affected by the ankle right. Like that's that's that's one thing and that's a big thing and then he's causing problems for them in social media but doesn't have the production to give them the cover to say okay. This is worth it. First of all he got injured last year. People have come back from injuries You have a wait and see approach so long as the exhausting every means and measure to be on the field I into to make sure they're ready to go. Here's where again again. We're we're we're on the outside. I'm not pretending to know our again. I haven't spoken to any of the parties involved. this is just based on the information that's been disseminated all. I think it's important to point this out. Guys you know somethin'. Drew brees was hinting towards retirement. A couple of years. Michael thomas didn't sign this contract. In two thousand fifteen it was two thousand and nineteen. Daddy signed his contract just two years ago. So when you sign that contract you had an idea that the five year one hundred million dollar deal you saw it and agreed to for the most part drew brees wouldn't be there for most of that and one of the reasons they gave it to you because you were supposed to be trustworthy and this is the part that we don't talk about much and i keep telling you you have to get into that. It's incredibly incredibly important. This notion that you just get paid because of your talent is a misnomer. It's false that is not true because talent is also. You're also projecting what somebody's level of production is going to be. That involves some level of trust. I'm trusting you gonna be coastal hundred percent as you can get trusting that you can go all out to maximize your potential. I'm trusting that you're going to be a leader Trusting that you're going to validate for me as a coach in an organization that you are worth this investment that we are making in you and when you anything that deviates from that. It's a bit problematic because it doesn't just affect you max. It affects the people who follow you now. Organizations don't want to get caught up in investing that those kinds of dollars and somebody might end up not answering the call. Well except that consider position the saints were in at the time. You still have the tail end of drew. Brees prime still a really good quarterback and you have stacked team so you have a chance win. The super bowl. Under those circumstances moment is so high leverage that you may invest additional years so you can spread out the cap hit and additional dollars talent like a number one one receiver because you want them right now to deal with it down the line. But that's answering max. Why saints did it. I'm saying why you took. It took it one hundred million dollars. I'm not. I'm not questioning that. I'm seeing you took it knowing all of that. maybe he is going to be a better replacement. I'd agree a better replacement to drew. Brees a better plan. I think what the packers tried to do with aaron rodgers and get ahead of it. I think that's right. Drew brees was aging and the saints did not seem to have a realistic plan to go forward a stopgap. Yes tastes them. Hill james winston stopgap measures. But who's the going forward franchise quarterback. Michael thomas is not a fool he can see. What am i going to do all that stuff. All of that stuff is open for debate to me. The one biggest thing. I had the issue with his the four month gap from when the season ended to win. You got operated on. You got ta raining all coming up. How in god's name do you get operated on in in june when you know damn well. The season ended in january. that's issue. That was the question i have. That's why michael thomas says. Hey i'm not saying things to protect the reputation of people who trashing mine. I wonder what the answer is to that getting. Maybe he's gonna come to that at some point after hearing this criticism but i just want to say one thing before we go to break. Thomas has the most catches in nfl history through players. I seventy games. He digits come up injury. He's twenty years old. There's no reason that he can't get back to the players hundred percent. I believe in them. I just want to know why he waited that long to have the surgery and not for the. We'll find out do own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com a quote and see how much you could save geico easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geiko dot com. Math says when to great things come together. They make something greater. For instance one plus one was too simple right. How about this trunk plus dog tailgate turf plus dancefloor end zone and when we had friends. Plus football equals. Espn fantasy football. It's as simple as that. Espn fantasy football with insights provided by ibm watson. Sign up now at espn dot com slash. Fantasy football baltimore. Ravens quarterback lamar jackson has now had in nineteen twice but when asked by reporters monday whether the ravens have spoken to have about getting vaccinated. He was non-committal on vaccine serious discussing his experience with the virus. I was just like last time. Probably fatigue if anything sleeping a lot but i'm glad to be back ten days been like it at all so just happened to you guys. You know. see my teammates. You defense back is a raven getting vaccinated. And are you worried about her. I mean you know. I just got off the covert see. I gotta talk my team. You know charter. See how they feel about it. You know. keep running. Much as i can about it back in november of last year jackson. I tested positive for cocaine. Nineteen forcing him to miss one game this year as you just heard he missed ten days of training camp which in the nfl rule for unvaccinated players who received a positive covert nineteen test result. Max what is your reaction to his uncertainty about receiving the vaccine considering. He's had two bouts with kovin. The ignorance regarding the vaccine is staggering staggering. And this by the way about vaccinations. Generally this predates our recent political climate. This goes back to an anti vaccine movement. I remember when i lived in la. I couldn't take my kids to disneyland because the measles have broken out. What the easels. Because there was a re ludicrous anti-science anti vaccine movement based on hocus pocus and nonsense nonsense. And i love people who think they're homespun common sense you're going to be an internet sleuth for five minutes and see through the thing that people who have been in school for twenty years studying this and the top immunologists in the world are all saying everyone like lamar. Jackson should talk to his doctor. Doctor is gonna say get the vaccine. That's all the doctors are saying. Get the vaccine and ninety something percent effect if you could still get cova by the way even if you have the vaccine but people out there i have the antibodies. I don't need the vaccine. The medical community says yes. You do yes you do so if you think with your common sense you're going to outsmart by by getting some confirmation bias on the internet and five minutes. I'm here to tell you you're wrong. I shouldn't have to tell you you're wrong. It is still in a pandemic. it's getting worse right now. Because an enormous number of people are extremely susceptible to extremely low quality information. And let me just hand it to you like this stephen. A it's amazing that nfl players who have food teams. Because they're throwing all kinds of stuff in their bodies painkillers in this and that oh i didn't know what it was going. My body are now turning around and saying in the middle vendetta. When everyone's hoping and praying for a miracle and here it is well. I don't know what's in that can't put that in my body and for those who would say well. Yes because at what they've learned is they can't trust the medical community. No no what they've learned is maybe doctors hired by teams or an ethically compromised positions. You think the cdc's you think every single expert genuine expert in the world is telling you the same thing because they're compromised or do you think maybe you just are superstitiously. Or whatever else is scared to get the vaccine. If everyone got the vaccine we'd be out of this mess. Let me stick to just football with this. Because as it pertains to what you said i don't disagree with you. Max you know. I want to record. I've already stated when my position is I i'm i'm double vaccinated so you So as molly Obviously i'm a proponent of taking the vaccine considering the world we're living in and the things that have been going on And the the reality that not doing so. Not just endangers ourselves but endangers others having said all of that. I think it's important to recognize that every situation is different. In this respect there are some people that are just home and then not around most. They're not around a lot of people that are incredibly reluctant to take the vaccine. Although i disagree with them I'm not as doggy against their against them. Because they're not the they're not endangering other people. That's not the case when you play in the nfl particularly when you were starting quarterback and so just the other day we got all we got all over kirk cousins because of how ridiculous He appeared to be And i felt that it was important that if we don't get kirk cousins we need to get on lamar jackson because i think his situation is is just as if not even more greatest anchor cousins because lamar jackson already tested positive for covert. He already missed a game. And so now you find yourself in the situation where you've already missed ten games ten days of training camp. This is a baltimore ravens offense that had the worst passing attack in the entire national football league. The reason why they had the number one rushing attack is because at that dude. Lamar jackson whose rushed for over a thousand yards. He's singular entity essentially because no quarterback in history has done that run for back to back thousand yard seasons from the quarterback position. That's the reason they have the number one rushing attack and considering how valuable and how important he is to the success of the team to sit up and not do everything he could to get himself to insulate himself from protect your for you know from potentially spreading the vaccine waving capturing it himself to some degree is mind boggling than me and i just think that it's incredibly alarming that he says he's twenty four years of age and he says well. I gotta talk to my teammates. Where the hell have you been. Have you not been talking to them. What have you been doing and your point about all the other stuff that they put in their bodies that they're not even aware of but suddenly you need to know everything and all the ingredients about this vaccine when throughout your professional career your collegiate career. This stuff injected into your body that you didn't have you had limited knowledge about i mean. Give me a break come on man. It's ridiculous i was going to let me remind you because i brought this up a couple of weeks. According to an economist yougov poll. It was widely reported in the middle of july. So i don't know if this still holds true but it held a couple of weeks ago. According to the poll fifty one percent. That's the majority of unvaccinated. American adults believed that the government was microchipping the population through the vaccine in other words. They're injecting microchips. what. I'm what. I'm what i'm saying did you the source of that. Is that true. Yes economist yougov poll. It's according to an economist yougov. I've heard people say that. It was reported widely the majority. You told me the other day said he told me so. What i'm saying is these are people who were clearly susceptible to lunatic conspiracy theories and extremely low quality information. And i just want to say to them and you and i said this the other day i said it and you seconded it. We understand. this is america. A no one's gonna put a needle in your arm that you don't want to be there and everyone would fight for your right to refuse anything hundred percent. This is america. You don't have to do anything that you don't want to do. But then stay home because the rest of us don't want to get like eventually emerge from this pandemic now. That's a great point. Mac is about more than just us that it's being selfish and you're potentially endangering other people and and their livelihood and they could potentially. He's not only missed. He's not only missing work Isn't he looking for a new contract. Patrick mahomes got his money. Josh allen got his money right. Lamar jackson is due to get his money. And what have you. And i'm just saying you a quarterback you know part of it as being the leader and when you're willing to defer so much to other people you're going to talk to people. You should have been talked to them. You should have been made a decision about this. And and i i just some some of the things that he says You know about this. I i don't get i just leave it at that. I just don't get it but to your point. Max of people are exercising their right and don't want to receive the vaccine at the very least. Please mask washington one very very important. Listen to mask is important but it's also important to wash his. There is some nasty folks out there and some nasty folks up the most people each other it up into arena. Obviously i had to go cover the plans now. You know what i mean sounds i was in the arena man and i use the bathroom and and people go in the bathroom and they come out there and watch the damn his. This disgust didn't is of breakout case of covert. According to the last numbers. That i saw stephen a fully vaccinated person. Is something like one in over ten thousand right so we're not saying this i'm fully vaccinated. So are you so as molly for ourselves irony. 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Max ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire the max kellerman show the podcast. The max kellerman show on espn radio and espn. Plus what's up nerds the problem with this time of year is i don't get any sleep. Everything every events always over after one o'clock clock them all amped up. I get up early the next morning and it doesn't stop it's on the weekends to max kellerman show on espn radio. Espn plus also check me out on the espn app and siriusxm channel eighty. What are we at eighty eight say. Espn eight eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven six. And then like steve harvey's over instagram talking about like you can't sleep eight hours down so against this whole thing about. There's something wrong with you if you sleep boy. We're going to debate steve harvey on that segment. All this pressure not to sleep. I like to sleep. What a weekend but not for sleep eight say. Espn eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven. Six max kellerman show presented by progressive insurance guests. Join me on the goodyear hotline the clippers ladies and gentlemen so much. I don't even know if this is the leap to hell with it. I'm gonna lead with it. The clippers are one step closer to history. That's right to that. I ever second round championship. They've never won it. They've never won a second round championship. They've yet to hang a second round. Banner up at staples next to the los angeles lakers seventeen championship banners. I it's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk. Wireless horn sounds the clippers. Survive and advance. The clippers could easily win the whole thing. That are that good. The clippers are on the utah taking out dallas for the second straight year. I mean kawhi leonard. Cohen letters one most clutch players ever like sport and by the way he's messed up in the clutch air balled. Game was it. Six five Three clippers wound up losing the game. Look like they would lose. The series had a terrible game game against denver when they got eliminated from the playoffs last year but also a to time final. Mvp to time with two different franchises in two different roles finals mvp and if there was a playoff mvp like postseason mvp. You'd want a couple of those two kawai in these playoffs. Just shot and luka doncic went. Nana's luca went bananas. But cou why leonard my lord you know fifty forty ninety right fifty percents from the field forty from three ninety from from the from the line collide just hit sixty forty nine seven game series and by the way you're the players in history history with two hundred points in a playoff series meaning. It probably won seven games. Who shot sixty percent from the field. Kareem abdul jabbar bernard king for he got hurt was scoring machine. Shaquille o'neal and now choline leonard. That's it history of the game kawais so efficient and still a great defender and he needed he needed some some heroes stuff to come through and he did it and by the way. Paul george was he good enough in these playoffs so far to think he can be the second banana on a championship team. Yes he has been yes he has been yes he has been listen. The utah jazz can shoot the lights out. The phoenix suns have superstar back court. And the aden's coming along fast and they got the right pieces around them three and defoe forwards the denver nuggets. They had jamal murray. I think it'd be a wrap in the western conference. I denver would come out but they still have a lot of depth that guard and porter jr. shooting the lights out they got. You know austin rivers playoff rivers but the the clippers if you had to make a favorite right now probably utah right because donovan mitchell jack. Conley's hamstring means that when it comes down to it they got one guy who can go get it for you. The clippers got to when it matters most and not even counting rondo because there is a playoff rondo. Is this the year. They make it to their first ever western conference finals. And how do they match up with the jazz. Listen to kawai after the clippers. Luca and the mavs. Just 'cause you play great in whatever nine game sevens that museum figure in. You know visors solid bought. The moment you know sometimes Confident you bad. Sometimes you're down so if you play good with like i said for me is about folks in. That moment added find You know playing basketball and his greatest. Why was and he's a two way player. Lucas a one way player greatness. Lucas graded at creating shots like in difficult situations. Someone like kobe. Bryant or kyrie irving great hitting really. Tough shots you know. What choline does he creates. Easy shots he only takes. High percentage shots for the most part. But luca. i gotta say some about luke. By the way that was straight talk wireless no contract no compromise and hard his on his way to the brooklyn locker room. I wonder if he hurt himself. Wishy a speedy recovery. Bill confirmed that tonight. I mean this guy was so ready and excited to play tonight. I'm going to get back to luca but you. His play reminds me of someone. And that's the guy you just heard about. James harden's out for game two against the bucks with hamstring tightness and look the bucks had to miss a lot of wide open shots for the nets to beat them when they didn't have james harden that wasn't just k. d. kyrie coming through that was also the bucks missing a lot of shots but you know what with james harden that's a super duper team and james harden with the antonio on the bench under steve. Nash is really running. A d'antoni offense with k. d. warriors level talent that's unbeatable. You're not going to beat that. No one's going to beat that. Remember how close to rockets game playing that brand of basketball with hardened running the point with very little talent on the team compared to the warriors k. d. warriors still got down to a game. Seven rockets could have possibly won. That series had an for. Chris paul's injury but now imagine that warriors team with k. Declared stephan in ghent and dre playing with the efficiency of houston. You can't beat that. That's the nets but once you take off of that kyrie is not the pick and roll. Point guard like james harden. He's not going to run. D'antoni's offensively like james now is so spectacularly talented and skilled and obviously k. k. d. and joe harris can shoot and they have a lot of interesting pieces golic. Claxton guys could play that. Maybe they can compete. Maybe even beat the bucks. Seven game series. But i'd be worried. However the most kind of under the radar storyline in the seat in this game or the series so far through one game is blake griffin. If blake can continue to play like this then then they're not a super duper team like when hardens there and remember hardens hamstring. He missed over twenty games with us in the regular season. Twenty and when he tried to come back from the growing which is the same thing as a hamstring. Basically like. Oh my god really. He can't move. This is nothing you can rush and if you try to rush it's going to get worse. Hearten might miss the series. Y'all he really might not be here for this series if he plays hardened app bucks. Don't have a chance. I don't care what andre snellings says. We gotta get dre on dragged me on the show. He'll be on the show later this week. I'm sure dr. espn fame. Andre snellings analytics. But it wouldn't matter. I don't care what he was saying going to beat the nets but without harden. They're going to need blake to be. The third cog in a big three. They're going to need it because they don't have the team defense nor the capability to play the team. Defense at the bucks do they don't have the cohesion that the bucks do. And once you take off jaanus k. d. o. k. d. better okay fine whatever but they basically cancelled in terms of the weight of each player and now kyrie the bucks. Don't exactly have a kyri. But they have drew holiday. Who plays good defense on smaller guards. I don't like him on harden but on kyrie you can't really ask for more and middleton now it's not really a big three in the sense that there's one hall of famer and to sometimes maybe in their best year all stars in middleton andrew holiday neither who's going to the hall of fame but middleton sometimes an all star drew holiday again on a smaller guard can be very effective so they're going to need and given the cohesion given the shooter's they're going to need blake to play up like did let by the way he needs. He owes detroit money. It looked like blake was washed when the nets. We're going to get him for what he can't shoot. He can't defend. You can't jump anymore. What's played gonna do. Oh i'm sorry. Take blake griffin off off the nets. Last night i think they probably lose. But if blake is playing at this level yeah. He's the big three. It means there are three guys who are well above average starters. You know. that's the kind of loosest definition of the term was blake and above average power forward last night. Yeah way above average so then you have to hall of famers in an above average starter at his position even without harden the nets of a shot to beat the bucks harden somehow. It's not that bad. And he comes the bucks or what they've done. Meantime is what steve nash had to say about the about. What the mri on hardens hamstring showed it to be honest with you tightness and most importantly is he's out for the next game so we're preparing for tomorrow night as as we ended up playing last night. And and that's our focus you know for james. We obviously are desperate for him to return and he's a huge piece of what we do in our team. But at this point. I think it would be all guesswork to to really understand. You know. he's had such a little up and down in recent history with then it's really hard to predict and so let's hope for the best but i can't really say anything to predictive definitive right now. This is the max kellerman show coming to you. Live from above the heineken. river appear seventeen. Torn meniscus is not easy paint on. That's not my role wanna championship body. Make sure trae young has always been the property. Trae young finished with thirty five points. On twenty-seven shot attempts and thirty four percent usage all of his baskets were self tennessee five at the rim for new york lead to another twenty four points. Now the luca trae young trade and we knew trae young could be an all star but lucullus like an mvp. And he's only twenty two. And what i was gonna tell you earlier about luca is can you prove these not the best player in basketball right now. I mean i wouldn't say he's number one. But i if lebron is hurt and doesn't have the playoffs to prove it if k d can't play defense because he is limited physically and he hasn't been available for parts of this year. He has to stay available for the playoffs. If jaanus can't shoot and simmons same thing and therefore their teams can advance deep into the playoffs. Nbc can't stay healthy and that's the reason he's not gonna win mvp. Are you sure for the dodgers. Isn't the best player in. Like the way i see it now. Is there seven days a week and probably many players who take turns being the best player in the league and lucas one of them. Kawai play defense on game. Seven scored very efficiently is always and his team won. But luca really didn't have porzingas helping partly that's game plan partly that's Porzingas every year gets hurt and then he has to work his way back to where he used to be. therefore he can't really progress and because luca monopolizes the ball porzingus becomes a role player. And because he's not in rhythm and doesn't really and and by that. I mean like he's out of the lineup with injury and stuff. He's not what he might. Otherwise be a loop still put up absurd numbers all series and took team games given the mavericks roster and the way their season went really. They had no business going seven games. Anyway dodgers all that. He's twenty two years old and the trade for trae young look lopsided trading all star but luca. Mvp now that's a lopsided. It doesn't look lopsided anymore. Sure the mavericks still want even with the extra first round pick. I'd still say but you can't call it a lopsided trade anymore trae spectacular and he doesn't get worse under pressure he gets better member. I somehow steph curry defense. Start to key in on them to on in the playoffs and the higher the stakes. I've noticed it throughout his career. Steph plays a little worse not so with trae young not so far much smaller sample size. But is simmons a trae. Young stopper ben simmons a trae young stopper. He he said. Bent scored probably do that. I mean i want to aren't gonna call so many fouls and i can be physical and be six foot ten then. I'll be six foot ten but we'll see the rest of my say you can only be six then. Who knows but what happened with. The story to me was not trae young last night. Look this is what happened in the sixers game. Sixers hawks doc rivers all year has been doing this thing where you know great coach and everything but part of what makes great right is belief in what he's doing stubbornness and it can also be r- achilles heel doc rivers all year. He's playing his second unit exclusively bench players to end the first and begin the second quarter and that hasn't worked out so great and people. You know you figure in the playoffs. You're not gonna do that right. You're gonna short and you're what happened game one. He starts by putting danny green. Who's not good enough to guard a quick guard. trae young. he's a good defender on ball but not for a little point guard trae young who could shoot score. He put him on trae young. So the hawks jumped out to elite and then he did this thing with the bench and by the time the bench was outta there. The sixers were buried and then eventually fi. Simmons defended trae young. Which was doc rivers plan. Late right and the sixers could have won the maddening. Thing about it is embiid on a torn. meniscus had this monster game and it was wasted. I don't think given 'em beads knee. You can expect him to carry that kind of offensive load. Every and doctors wasted it. So as doc in a short in the rotation even if the i don't play simmons on entree young too early in the game he'll get fouled. Okay fine but his docking too short and the rotation at least to me so far. This series is not about trae young. It's not about ben. Simmons it's not about joel embiid. It's about doc rivers. Max kellerman show on espn radio and espn plus also check me out on the espn app and siriusxm channel eighty eighty eight say espn eight eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven six. Here's embiid he was asked is he still confident. Torn meniscus playing on. It should give him thirty nine last night that he can still be the guy on this team. Say plan on a torn. Meniscus is not easy. All i gotta do kid. Managing it Do my best Do get as much treatment as i can't Try to manage. They show got swallow too much Of the pain is that. That's not more Buddies all you know managing it you know doing whatever it takes to win because you know. My goal is to win the championship. And i'm from my body all the launch and make sure that happens other gifts everything i got so you want to call in and talk about the weekend action playoff action in the nba. Go ahead. julio jones treated to the titans you know what's funny about stuff like that. I was kind of making the argument of tanta hills. Underrate attend underrated. Then a trade. Like julio jones and julio jones is a guy to me who. You're gonna find out about a quarterback trade from if you want to find out about your quarterback that's why many were thinking like what if he goes to the ravens. You find out about lamar jackson right. Whatever scheme you're using whatever you got. Julio you're gonna find out about your guy so the titans get julio jones and the titans now they've aj brown julio jones and then obviously derrick henry running the ball. I don't and the reason. I still don't like them is because as it turns out just like you can't really control who you root for just kind of happened sometimes. Like really i'm waiting for. I don't mean when it's your team. I mean to neutral teams. You don't care about you. Find yourself rooting interest in it you. I didn't know i was waiting for that i am. I didn't know really the way. I felt about ryan tannehill until this trade went down and i think it's not quite enough. I think tannahill not quite enough. By the way. I look at the browns still as the number one threat to the chiefs number one offensive line pass blocking sorry pass protection enron blocking number one in both one in both returning all the defenders plus picking up j. dion cloudy and hotels coming back which is easily like getting julio jones they don't have they don't have derrick henry they have nick chubb and kareem hunt but i still like an and baker in tannahill. It's interesting you'd read. Tannahill more steady but baker. Maybe with a little more upside. I dunno. I just told me what i needed to know about tannehill which is at this moment. Actually don't believe in him as much as i was saying. He's underrated falcons by the way twenty. Twenty two second rounder. And the twenty twenty three fourth round or the titans gets julio jones six pounder in two thousand twenty three titans take on jones's salary five fifteen point three million at twenty twenty one and the rest of the deal falcons now have seven point seven five million in dead money this year. Here's jeff darlington the espn nfl reporter. On keyshawn. j. will zubin on the titans moved for julio jones. This is a team that i think added. Julio not nearly as a luxury piece like i think they actually added him as a necessity because they did lose. Corey davis who did have nearly a thousand yards last season. So it's not like they can just go into this year and expect and derek to just carry the team to a super bowl. I got some thoughts on floyd mayweather and logan paul. I'm gonna give you coming up. Max kellerman show on. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. Make me easy to bundle your home and car insurance. I know you want to know what to think about logan. 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Floyd versus logan paul eighty eight say. Espn eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven six. The max kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance guests. Join me on your hotline. So here's my question. Were you not entertained. A lot of people weren't don't buy the next one so it was making you buy it a lot of people we're entertained and they'll by the next one beyond that though. Here's the thing matchups. There's i don't know if there's a science to it or not but there's an art to it. Sometimes you hear a matchup near like something about that when a ding ding round one. I gotta have my eyeballs on it and it needs to be live. I need to see as it's happening. And whatever they did floyd mayweather logan polls one of those things like when it's happening. I need to know what's happening. I need to know what's going on. Because floyd is one of the greatest pure boxers of all time and he's forty four years old and he hasn't fought a long time and he didn't seem to be taking it very seriously. This exhibition and logan. Paul has a lot of energy. And he's much much bigger than floyd and he loves boxing and he puts his all into it. And what it was like. Does anyone think. Logan paul's going to beat floyd mayweather and boxing ring serious. No of course not. It's a chance to see one of the greatest practitioners of the sweet science ever practiced a little more. You know in a safe environment exhibition fight. And you got to see it with very little at stake for floyd in all its high stakes for floyd few lost and he had no chance of losing and logan. Paul went to distance good for him now. Did floyd carry him. He didn't press for the knockout. Let me say something about logan paul and his brother jake they tr- they love boxing. Have passion for it. There's other ways for these guys to make money. They choose boxing which is tough road but so you have to really love it which they do. They respect the sport. They never disrespected by training. As hard as they can absorbing as much as they can you know learning it fighting as hard as they can as well as they can and then moving onto the next and by the way doing a great job promoting the sport and and having people put your eyeballs on it. I don't know. I'm not mad at the paul brothers for that. I'm not gonna be mad at floyd for making fifty to one hundred million dollars for an exhibition. Now that's what it was an exhibition. It was an exhibition. Floyd was exhibiting his boxing skills against the novice boxer he was much bigger than him and logan was exhibiting his toughness and his ability to learn quickly and to share a ring with floyd mayweather in his second in quasi professional fight was an exhibition. Would you rather have an exhibition. Like drago and apollo creed because there's an exit. Floyd didn't knock them out. Do you want to see someone like get sent to. The hospital in this exhibition is at the point. That a good undercard arias heard was a real good fight. Ari scored the upset. He got to see ocho cinco. Get down actually box pretty well until then and then you saw floyd logan. Paul have two good rounds early. Throwing a lot of punches. Good for him and floyd then put on a little boxing exhibition and then it became about low. Listen and also. Floyd knows when you're an inexperienced fighter. No matter what kind of dog shape you can be in detention of the event where you can't relax tire you out. Floyd news about conor mcgregor. He knew it certainly about bogin. Paul and logan. Paul was bone tired by the middle but he made the distance. Good for him again. If you weren't entertained. Don't buy the next one. I was entertained on another black eye for boxing. Shut off what. It's not a professional fight. It's an exhibition entertainment. That's all you got to see floyd. It's not going to go on forever. Floyd it can box effectively right but right now. He can still put on an exhibition. You get ill. There's floyd mayweather doing his thing. I like watching that. That dude once upon a time boxed as well as anyone who ever lived and i to see it by the way jake paul coming up he's gonna fight tyron woodley. It's intriguing jake. Paul needs a big name to make an event with because he's not gonna fight a nobody millions. He's he's a big draw. But you can't fight a famous fighter. A famous boxer. Who beat him up. Because jake paul just started and he has no amateur background. So you find. I another youtuber. You beat him. Then you get an athlete like nate robinson. You'd be knock them out. Then you get a former fighter. Ask except he's not a striker. So you're not kim out now you get a guy who doesn't exactly come from a striking background. He's a wrestling background woodley. But he can strike. We know he could strike. We've seen that. And he's lost his last four fights. He's past his prime. And if jake can beat him next you find a guy who actually does have a striking background. He comes from some kind of striking or he has a mixed background like martial arts. Whatever wrestling but he's a striker who's not so past his prime and little by little with each step. If you succeed you go onto the next step. That's how you build a fighter. Anyway the difference is most fighters will start out as famous as jake. Paul or logan paul. Now my hats off to those kids. Young men and floyd is just having fun. So what happened in that Soccer match game pitches at a soccer pitch soccer. Come on have some in california. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio mac. Clap the call. 'cause look man i listen to you for over a decade right. Look you you. Nfl game strong storm. Maybe you're nba game real strong boxing best in the world undisputed champ of commentary bussing. That's in the world right but but but i know your soccer game is lacking and that's why we we didn't make a range of max. You need me to call in on the goodyear hotline as as a guest on the show. 'cause i need to be your liaison. Okay well let's talk about soccer liaise. Let's see what you got all right so last night while many of you are wasting your time with the floyd mayweather fight and all that stuff and and don't get me wrong. It's entertaining. I'll give you that. Apparently ended in skirt had a scandal in it right. That's the game someone who boring that. The fans didn't know what to do say started causing trouble again. Is that what you're about to tell me. Go ahead tell me what happened. Absolutely absolutely not what happened. Yesterday was the beginning of a new era and the amount of storylines that you guys are slipping on from their breathing. Throwing it our players from christian pulisic twenty three years old being one of the greatest young athletes currently in the united states winning the premier league championship being the first american to be an active player to do that and then in the same week basically pushes the team forward to beat our biggest rival mexico in thrilling game where we were down one zero title one one through one time to go through to made a dessert kind of the kick to make it three two and then mexico got a penalty chickens will not even mexican fans can dispute the victory yesterday and there. Were some controversies but story at all. I admire your passion. But all i can say is i feel like will ferrell. And anchorman is the first anchor man when he's talking to the bartender and the speaking to him english and everything but because he's so self involved. I'm sorry i don't speak spanish because the dude is mexican mexican american i. I don't know you're speaking a foreign language to me. There's something going on in in league with mexico and there. It was to tap penalty. kick. And i don't know i don't i it's like it's like people live in a parallel universe. Where apparently this is important to them. I don't begrudge them that. But i just point out a lot of hooliganism soccer. I think because they're waiting for something to happen. The fans are getting bored. Getting restless actually. There's very good book. How soccer explains the world. And there's a good response to the book by our own sal pal sal. Paolantonio explains america and the book. How football explains america explains why. I'm not into soccer. But i am into football not football. All right raj that's as much soccer's wherever gonna talk on this show. This is good. This is a wrecker. We've never talked this much isn't that he say they had such a soccer pitch the other day. Now let's did not win the premier league championship. He won the champions league of all of europe. So chelsea is champion. Sounds like a rat battle in europe for prolific. Didn't understand exactly nicola. The max keller show is brought to you by attorneys cordell and cordell fair divorce for men call one eight six six dad's law it's time for some straight talk. Sure saving money feels. Good cutting your wireless bill in half. That feels really good. Like walk off home. Run in the ninth inning. Good okay me back. Good but pretty good with straight talking. Get twenty five. Gigs of high speed data for forty five bucks a month up to fifty percent less than the other guys. Plus no contract all on america's best networks. Why pay a whole lot. When you can pay half straight talk wireless no contract no compromise all right. Eighty eight say espn. Look i'm gonna take calls but no more soccer 'cause right now if you want me to talk about soccer talk about raj when you're on hold see if raj you'll talk to you maybe. Do you like soccer. The not as much as rod. That's for sure yeah me neither. I don't like soccer as much as raj either. I don't even like soccer as much as i like. Raj same it's time for some straight talk. Sure saving money feels already did that. Why are you putting it up there again. Roj game six. What raj keeps this is what raj does he keeps putting piece of meat that i've already read all right coming coming up. I'm gonna talk about sports max keller. Spn radio do own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your go to geico dot com dente quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com warning walking outside lights. The emmy and peabody award winning show tackles the most important issues in sports year at a time. 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Be the nets. Three star in hardens absence. He was last night matt michigan. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio for doing So i don't know about you. But i watch the most read just blown call of my life yesterday with that back for miss back core. Call on the mad. That's clippers game. Let me know saying there were some blown calls But i if you start off the show and i it's my fault for not prepping the callers because obviously that's too much for raj and brendan to do if you if you start out the show saying. Hey what's up. I gotta get dropped. I have to start stealing some some discipline here in the ranks because it's not a social call and you're wasting time you just say you could get your opinion right away now. That wasn't an egregious example. Right because he got to it. But i think just on principle was that matt michigan. Oh we got a couple of regulars waiting andrei in massachusetts andrea and richard. No the the deal is why the regular is one of the reasons andrea massachusetts. Go ahead andre. Mac situation right now for the philadelphia. Seventy sixers is serious. I'm gonna tell you why. Listen this is a team that hang. There hung their hat on defense this year. I believe it was number one overall rating. How do you give up forty two points. The atlanta hawks. In the first half how do you let trae young get get off. This hawks team is serious. They have potent scores and in conclusion. Max we are forgetting the leadership that they have in the bench with nate mcmillan fixtures. I'm pulling through. This should be your year but if you don't get it to heart you're going to hold on andre. This is this is what i mean. There's a there's an explanation. how did they. How did they give all those points in the first half they put doc put danny green on trae young. That's not gonna work and trae young show and then doctored the thing he's been doing all year end of the first quarter beginning of the second quarter. He plays in all bench unit and they're not good. You can't do it not in the playoffs. The playoffs where you limit the rotation you get your eight best guys nine best guys maybe eight best guys scoring eleven deep in the play offs. And there's some unplayable guys right now. Sh- like shake milton. You're gonna play him right now. And now look able is a great defender. He's already a great defender. But i think doc is going to have to make some decisions and maybe not be so intractable about his rotation or about his his his lineups and like his kind of his rigid kind of strategy. And i would say that. I get why you don't put simmons on trae young to start the gangs. You don't want in foul trouble. I get that. But you can't do danny green just like danny green is can defend on ball. But it can't be a quick little dude. Like young. Shoot from the outside. And get to the paint richard in manhattan. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio max. Julio jones and trae young have been in the news today correct yes. I like what you're going me thinking max. Would you always make me do yes. The city of atlanta falcons came into the nfl in nineteen sixty. six hawks. Came from the saint. Louis walks in sixty five. The atlanta braves became from the milwaukee braves and sixty six. That's approximately a hundred and eighty years amongst those three sports teams throw in atlanta braves atlanta thrashes and the atlanta flames another thirty years. That's approximately two hundred years of major sports years that at city of atlanta has had. Max do you know how many championships out of those two hundred three hundred seventy one. The breeze one branch scott one. That's it who else you're right max one championship and two and yet you never hear anything about the city of atlanta. Being a bad sports town think because they support like not. That actually didn't. That's funny because the one team. They really didn't support when they were good for. The braves usually come out and support their teams not the braves who were great for a long time. Just couldn't get over the hump. It is interesting. Richard as usual has an interesting point to make none of the check yet. None of his points ever involve any fact after nineteen seventy but But he does have interesting points to make right. Raj like you know who else is gonna come up with ebola like today's with the atlanta hawks and who got me thinking about atlanta and then he pulls out two hundred years of sports franchise seasons and only one championship from the by. The way wasn't the braves. Was that ninety. Four ninety five ninety five was at ninety four strike shortened season no world series but ninety five was also shortened year because of ninety four like it was not exactly a regular year and that's the year although it was the last year before the wild card and they did win a world series. That was a big underachieving atlanta squad. They couldn't win the world series. Because matic by the way maddox played down. He didn't he wasn't his normal. Great selfless smoltz was great though. Always great clippers about to make history. Max keller show the max kellerman show the podcast. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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In there you would think the guy who's performed trae young. This year is a top ten. Nba player. he's not no knock against temperatures. How impossible it is the top fifteen player. He scored forty eight points last night with eleven assists and seven boards. He's like about five foot two. It was his first western conference finals. Game steph curry has played in twenty-seven western conference finals games. He's the greatest shooter who ever lived. And how many times. He's averaged dropped. Forty eight points in a western conference finals. Game out of the twenty seven zero trae. Young's played in one western conference finals. Game distrupt forty eight points. Sky's the limit with this guy. It's crazy because like he's played himself into the position now where it isn't crazy to ask who won that draft day trade. Was it the team who got trae. Young and a first rounder was the team that got luka. Doncic i mean. Lucas played out of his mind. Luca played so well that when my eyeballs were last autumn i said is he the best player in the nba. And then i watched cayden okay. These even better than that i think. And i'm not sure if one of those guys is better than lebron and we can't watch play because he's hurt but yokich by the way was the mvp. A monster playoffs the best player in the game this year overall at least in the regular season and embiid was better than him but he got hurt a little too much. He was a beast in the playoffs. To and hardened for game was better than everybody but he missed too much time with the hamstring and damian. Lillard was in it until the end of the mvp. Any tired out a little bit. And is damian lillard a top ten player it is insane and trae young is just. He's just great man like he's got that thing where the bigger the stage the better he plays. I know it seems like we tell you how it works in this business. You know automatically. You're like hey you know what steph has some chokhin them and you know that's going to get a reaction out of people because everyone loves stephan. How dare you say any of the. You're basically four staffer against steph right. I love me some steph curry. But i gotta be honest. I know it's gonna riley up. I gotta be honest. I've seen him choke on the big stage to let me put it another way. I have seen him not play up to his own. Normal standards. Too often as the pressure goes up. But you know what i seen. Some trae young as the pressure goes up. He gets better and better and better. The hawks were down seven with four eighteen in the game. They went on a seventeen eight. Run just remind you steph. Played out of his mind and the whole thing but it play in game meaning. It's one of these. One of the the ninth or tenth best team in the conference and in a play in game winner go home. The last three minutes and thirty seconds of overtime steph scored zero points and they lost hard to imagine trae young doing that. Isn't it when it matters most. Please better and better if steph had that thing in them the trae young has like oh my god. He doesn't get careless under pressure. He gets better under pressure. Steph would be in the conversation for great player ever steph actually elevated over his normal standard he be. He's not in the conversation so that's not in the conversation for greatest player ever no one would ever think he's in the conversation not in the conversation because of that whilst would it be guys well because he doesn't play defense. No no no. It's because he's played in five finals. He's never been the best player in the finals and he's often not been the best player on his own team in the finals. No finals mvp's and frequently not the second best player in the series frequently. Hard to treat does not have steph stability. But he has that extra dimension in his in his makeup that allows him to play over his head when the stakes get higher so the last four not the last three thirty scores. No points like steph. This year got sent packing. He scored or assisted on thirteen of the seventeen points. Raja would love to see the rest of that stat. I have written down the there. You go there you go on thirteen of the seventeen points including four free throws in the final twenty seconds of atlanta's three point win over milwaukee now the bucks host the hawks for game two of the eastern conference finals on friday. I'll tell you what budenholzer. When he coached the hawks they won sixty regular season games that got swept in the playoffs. And everyone including everyone. Including i said including me i said look. He doesn't have a superstar on that team. It's to his credit. They won sixty. You can't hold it against them. They got swept in the playoffs. Then he goes to milwaukee. They went sixty games now. He has a superstar in janas. They're still getting beaten up in the playoffs but this year now finally after getting humiliated in the playoffs multiple seasons they bring andrew holiday and now remember those those hedge fund guys that bought the box played. The bucks played milwaukee cheap. They should have retained brogden but they didn't wanna pay luxury tax and because of that they couldn't match salaries and this offseason to bring in a guy like chris. Paul to play with hones- they had to settle for a guy like drew holiday. Who very good. But he's not chris paul and as a result. They don't have a real big three right. Maybe middleton could be the third wheel in a big three. If chris paul is the second wheel and maybe even that's not enough but it certainly gives you a better fighting chance but then what happened to the bucks luck. Everyone got hurt. Everyone league got hurt. Embiid even on a meniscus was playing on a torn meniscus playing out of his mind. But what do you played even better. Had he been fully healthy. Think about what. The celtics were ravaged by injury. All season especially late in the season who this could be the bucks luck year right and then the nets the unbeatable nets. they don't even have james harden and they are showing the bucks they shouldn't even be in the same league with them. The net should have a higher league in one thousand nine hundred ninety six the manager. Tom kelly the manager of the minnesota twins saw mariana revenue for the first time in the playoffs. Ninety six people didn't fully know about riveria discreet season. But he set up guy and tom. Kelly was asked about rivera he goes he needs to be in a higher league. I don't know what that league is. But he that's with the nets were with just kadian. Kyrie harding wasn't even playing in. He's the whole organizer of the offense just k. d. and kyrie and the box were totally stepped on. It was not a series. They should have stopped playing the series. Then kyrie goes out now. It's d. by himself hardened comes back. But that's not james harden. He's playing hurt and he's just out there on. The floor is actually making them worse. Kill the transition game. Couldn't play defense missing. Shots are luckier. Oh you can come back because the nets are hurt and now we play the hawks and they don't have any like one great player to bunch of role players. And you'd better not lose. This one does blue holes survive if they lose freak. What's the mindset after the loss. You'll you'll lose you. Don't wanna be down. But i a said you can't get to can get to know you gotta come out into threat to compete and And wish for the best no but it does get easier. It doesn't matter if you down to all who knows differences. No that doesn't mean might get You might be down. one one. Zero to get back might be a different case so never gets easy Did a baby got a certain your job. You gotta be middleton. Can't be invisible. You can't miss nine. Threes middleton has to be an all star. no he's not an all star every year because he's usually not great he's sometimes screen and usually good. Same thing withdrew holiday. That's why it's no big three. Kyri and james harden always great great sometimes good the reverse with middleton and holiday. And that's why they weren't as good as the nets clearly until the nets got hurt. Boy they better be better than hawks. Or i don't know if good holes survives and they're going to have to do better than holiday in middleton on the goodyear hotline just darling. Espn nfl reporter. Jeff jeff there is. Let me ask you something jeff what. Qb was tom. Brady talking about on the shop. When he said there was one team he wanted to play for. And they said we gonna stay with our guys and said you're going to stay with that expletive. Yeah who's he. To- i have not. I guess this makes new guy. Reporter is not asked tom himself who he was talking about. I can tell you this. The the raiders. Were in this thing until the very late going. They were among the final teams. That were Having the discussions and they are also a team that backed away that that basically said you know what. We're not interested So you know like the saints for instance. That was another team. That was very much in the hunt but that was contingent on whether drew decided to come back or not. And i'm not talking about the first time he's coming back. I'm talking about much later in the process when he was contemplating a broadcasting career in ultimately retiring. So that's different. That wasn't like the saints. Where like hey i mean. We're talking about a legend injure breeze so put that one aside the raiders. Long now like i kind of got that. What about my thought. My first thought jeff. When i heard it was it's garoppolo because he's from northern california. The niners were ready to win the super bowl. They they kind of hid garoppolo as much as possible but still. He was the quarterback on the team. That was one throw away and he did miss sanders to win the super bowl but next time maybe it some and maybe brady i figured is looking at the niners going hold on. I can't go home and play for a ready to win super bowl team because the same guy that bill belichick wanted to trade me because the thought he was the heir-apparent he wanted to let me go. He's blocking me. Somehow again. You know at the end of my hear you. I hear you. I'm i'm i'm i'm very confident. I'll say fairly confident. It's not garoppolo. Okay so So the reason. I say that is because when you're going through the process about that one The forty niners like that. Didn't that didn't go very far and tom. It wasn't gonna work for tom just as much as it wasn't the forty niners. Were kind of feeling like they should stick with jimmy to that was to me. That was a little bit of a more of a mutual situation I see and by the way i think. I think the tom ends up with the bucks anyway. Even if the raiders did put their offer forward and this is this is where. Tom is so interesting about the chips that he puts on his shoulder. continues to do even at this age like he was gonna go with the bucks anyway. It fit everything that he wanted like. There were four key components it was. It was by the way it was about weather. Says good weather but it was about whether or not the east coast close to the sun. it was about playing for a coach which probably would've worked for gruden as well that was willing to be collaborative. There were these. These components i think would have led him to tampa anyway right That's the funny part to me. It's like you still holds a grudge. Even though it's like like. I just want them to want me. I didn't actually go there. But i do. Want them to want me jeff darlington. Espn nfl reporter. On the max kellerman show. Espn radio that makes sense. I would say that no state income tax warm weather and Also you get more credit for joining a team like the bucks that seemed to be far away on paper seven and nine but of course had every single element you need except a quarterback who doesn't turn the ball over a lot right that's brady and you plug that in. You gotta figure at least a playoff win. You're at least going to win double digit games and at least a playoff game even if brady was in decline so maybe he does wind up there anyway. But it's interesting to me that it's not enough for him to get to go to the place he ultimately chooses. He's also still mad that he couldn't be choosing one that the that gruden. Apparently or someone in the raiders is like no we like derek carr but that says if that's the guy just and he doesn't think a lot of derek carr well i it was fascinating about too is like if we think back to to march i remember at one point thing Reporting that there were seventeen at the time that we're having these like internal discussions about whether they were going to pursue tom and and people kinda like freaked out on me like they didn't believe me like that. There were seven teams and this was not like seventeen that were offering them contracts but that were seriously contemplating adding tom brady and people were like seventeen. There's not seventeen. There's no way they're seventeen. And now it's like you know. In retrospect revisions. History is like what do you mean team want. Tom brady like there. Were oh if we think back to that march there was a lot of teams coming off one of his worst seasons There were a lot of fans were saying. He's done well they other words that gm's we're seeing what i was seeing most gm's which i thought he was in severe decline at that point he looked year-over-year. The pass has got shorter and less accurate. That's not a good combination and and but it turns out in fact. It was a total lack of offensive weaponry at his disposal and once he got that he was fine. Speaking of weaponry at your disposal so the quarterback i see jeff talking to jeff darlington. Espn nfl insider. On the max. Kellerman show espn radio. That has the most pressure on them this year. More than carson wentz more than dak prescott. Just got a new contract more than any aaron rodgers. Anyone is matt stafford because for so many years so you looked at him and said top arm talent. He's in detroit so so he's going to confirm one of two suspicions. I think that we all simultaneously hold about stafford. Because we don't know one is. He's a really good quarterback who was in a bad situation. The other is something's missing. He just can't win. he's in a position now. Whereas no excuses right what you expect from stafford in the rams. You know what's really interesting. That's the first time i've really even considered that So thank you. Because i always thought dak prescott has like the most pressure of anybody in professional sports on him. Given you know the nature of the market the money that he'll timidly for and dot the whole thing. But to your point. I when it comes to stafford. I've been applying all the pressure on sean mcvay and on the rams organization for giving up the first round picks giving up on jared goff two seasons removed from the time when gough actually was in the super bowl so like i've been saying. Hey you better be right on this. But you're right for stafford. It's the same thing like for years. We've been talking about including the i i ve wong. Said is one of the more underrated quarterbacks in the nfl. But you're right like here. You go like this is this. is your moment. this is the rams moment and This is a lot on the line for everybody involved. I completely agree with that. I didn't even add that into the equation. I have in my calculation. But i'm glad you said it not only all true about stafford. The rams had a quarterback who they drafted one overall and with whom they traded to firsts and afford to bring them right paid them and then drafted to fourth to bring in stafford and on top of that guy had gotten them to a super bowl and made two pro bowls. And you're replacing that guy because they think you're that much better all you'd better perform an and by the way sean mcvay love the guy love him but at the same time like we're still talking about coach by the way has not been anything without jared goff with another quarterback to we'll see i mean by the way i don't think there's a ton of pressure out honestly jeff because he's we all know. The offense is very good. He was good last time last seen with the offense if they lose it's going to be because of the defense as usual and excuses will be made for the cowboys well. It's not his fault that he went eight eight when he was healthy with a lot of offense offensive weapons and a great offensive line. Couldn't even win the division and everyone gave him a pass because they could see that's right carson wentz a lot of pressure but i want to pick your brain quickly like in one minute odell is coming back. And so we saquon barkley. Who's going to have the bigger impact on their team. Odell on the browns who look like they're one dynamic receiver away from winning a super bowl baker and get it done or saquon on the giants who will compl completely changes the complexion of team with his overall play. Who's going to have a bigger impact on their team. I don't know if this is a cop out. I think the easy answer is saquon. And i say that because the running back can dictate i mean you gotta have a good offensive line but But a great running back dictate his success more than a great wide receiver can So i the baker odell thing is fascinating to me whether they can get on the same page. Yeah but but to me. I think we know i. I feel very confident that that i know what take ones capable of doing that. Guy's a beast. death odell is a great player. It's going to be relying on. Baker mayfield can do for greatest running back prospect in history. Two thousand yards from scrimmage as a rookies barry sanders. But he's two hundred thirty five pounds it can catch and everything the great. Jeff darlington ladies and gentlemen. Espn nfl insider much. ms jeff. Thank you for hopping on with me. Man appreciate it. The max kellerman show on. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. Making it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. So chris. paul is listed is listed as available for tonight's game returning to the clippers within the biggest game and clippers history returning to maybe end. Their finals hopes chris paul was talked about as an mvp candidate this year. Is he even a top fifteen player right now. The ultimate fighter is back. The reality show that brings top. Ma prospects together under one roof to compete for the ufc. Contract is on espn plus stream new episodes every tuesday only on espn plus you can also stream my show. The max kellerman show along with hours of daily sports talk sign up now at espn plus dot com slash u. f. c. as red province voice-over artist. I'm here to explain bottomless. How do i get across free refills on fries and drinks. Well here goes bottomless at red. Robin means free unlimited refills on the fries inside that come with every burger or entree that means free refills on steak. Fry sweet potato fries. Yukon kettle chips garlic fries broccoli. Size salad soft drinks. 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Scroll up you gotta you gotta tell you the show is presented by. I did night. Did not just do that. The max keller presented by progressive insurance guests. Join me on the goodyear hotline. Just did tony in wisconsin. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio big fan. You doing brother. i just wanted to find out your idea on like the kind of slowly growing personality of villain that trae young getting into here with the crowd the shoulder shrugs that he does. I mean when when When steph curry does it. He does it in mohammed ali. I'm so pretty kind of way. betray young. It's kind of it a little arrogance to really good when you poke the bear and janas he gets. He gets better when he's angry. Maybe but it's a good point the difference in steffes personality is like it's not so much like i'm trying to be obnoxious to you on just kind of feel myself. Trey wants to stick it to you. He really enjoys that. I think that makes them a better pressure player. To tell you the truth. Like he loves it. He loves playing the villain. But you're right like you know. I don't know if it's poking the bear in jaanus i don't think middleton is going to go for nine from three every game i think it'll be enough games. Where middleton hits shots at the bucks win the series but they just gave up court just like that because trey is a. Is the man under pressure. I think about the nba. Right now is c. p. Three atop fifteen player. Fifteen us an mvp candidate years even a top. Fifteen is kyrie. If you said yes to to see p. three or kyrie or klay thompson or zion williamson or russell westbrook or paul george or bradley beal or jimmy butler. Consider this for a second who you taken out of the top. Ten not lebron k. d. steph harden. ad embiid yokich. Luca dame is a top ten player or you wanna put damon and say is hurt too much or or a hurt too much embiid even to to fit damon jaanus by the way that i mentioned janas top five. Forget it tough. Five is brutal but top ten even. So let me tell you. Who's not my top ten right now. Damian lillard trae young devon booker donovan. Mitchell were jayson tatum. But they are in my top fifteen. Which means i don't have kyrie irving or chris paul in my top fifteen like i don't believe that i even i think it's wrong. I'm saying it out loud on the radio and go max you idiot. Of course they're top fifteen. I'm there goes like an all snub. I'm they're going to myself like i. Who am i supposed to take off. And i think jason tatum take them off. These two young kyrie. Chris paul proven it and then i think actually about what jason tatum can do. And i go jason. Tatum can give you fifty so can kyri but kyrie also comes like sometimes with some baggage and sometimes he's not available sometime. It's a medical reason. Sometimes it's another reason. Klay thompson has played in a minute. I mean it is brutal meantime. Listen a tie lou. Is this tyler talkin. Who's talking raj what you don't know okay. I don't know how to pronounce his name youngmisuk. I've seen his name all the time on. Espn espn youngest espn mba report. But i know. I'll put your name on the six. Pm sports center here is. He's talking about coach tie lou. Now you heard kendrick perkins on the sports center. Update saying tyler is the best coach in the nba. I've been saying that to perkins much as we argue. Agree about certain things and hot takes. I you call them. And i'm just saying like i know gregg popovich still coaching. I know pollsters. Great and their other monty williams is great. The job that was just done in new york by and there are others. But if i had a team i could choose any coach to tyler. So what about tie lou. And the fact that he's down to once again the clippers. Find themselves down to a series. But this is where lou has done his best work after their crushing game. Two loss and phoenix. Patrick beverley said the players are confident. They'll rebound they jokingly call lou bill belichick with all the series turning adjustments. He makes in the opening minutes a game. Three against dallas lou inserted nicotine in for a visa zoo bots and the clippers took off with their small lineup and in game five against utah. Lou started terrence mann for an injured quite leonard to give rudy. Gobert fits former cav. Richard jefferson told me lewis. The only coach seen with the basketball iq to go toe to toe with lebron james. I agree with that. And yet if you don't have kawhi leonard and the other team has chris paul good luck. If they weren't getting chris paul back. I'd say you know what. They barely beat the clippers at home. What's going to happen the clippers or at home. They should win. Let me tell you something. In the history of the clippers franchise. This is the most important game ever played. And it's not close if they can win this game and kawais not out for the rest of the season which may not be. He may be out for the rest of the season. But let's just say for a second. There's still a glimmer of hope that can come back. If the clippers can win a game three end co i could get back for a game. Four they still have a chance to win the series if the clippers lose game three even if it comes back this series is over. They're not going to be the sons for straight. It's the big laker fans. What do you think about that. The clippers finally have a chance to win it. All it comes down to tonight's game nine pm eastern on espn and espn radio. The biggest game in the history of the clippers now. How about this can the clippers. Even stay in la if they lose this game serious about this what quite bounces after opts out and bounces. They mortgage the future for george for paul george. He's not going to get it done by himself. He's a second banana best. And by the way not a top fifteen player. Not a top fifteen player. Actually is he a top twenty player. That's debatable. paul georgia's a top twenty player. It's debatable bradley. Beal jimmy butler dhamma ranch emol. Murray you know jaylen brown let alone. Kyrie chris klay thompson zion williamson russell. Westbrook and i didn't even name the top fifteen players yet. No and then if that falls apart and the lakers are on top of the world. Lebron ad healthy next year can the clippers. Even stay in l. a. does bomber to take back to to seattle i to seattle. Yes seattle and missing to seattle portland portland. Seattle wasn't evident last. Is your take coming up. Eight eight eight say. Espn seven to nine. three seven. Seven six the max. Keller joe on. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. Making it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's the biggest season ever tiergarten. Feels good my ex teammate. Dan campbell in detroit. Any feels appreciate. He feels like he has voice. And he didn't feel that way in los angeles gijon jay williams ubi. 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Miss any of the max kellerman show today. Oh the fun. We had raj and brendan trustee producer and technical leader conspired to interrupt me at every turn. They were playing. They had a bet going. Who could distract me. The most during the segments who won roger brandon erceg nint-. Oh thank you thank you. Who won that bet you brandon. It's close you can always find both hours. The show posted daily as a podcast available. Wherever you listen to podcasts. I jake good to hear your voice. I echo throwing down here matches last. Oh all right top ten. As far as i'm concerned in the nba. Not in any particular order lebron k. d. steph hardin. Adm bead yokich. luca and jaanus. No that means damian. Lillard is not my top ten. How's that possible. But my next five damon trae and booker and and spied a mitchell and tatum. You know what that means. Neither kyri nor chris paul or in my top fifteen. How's that possible. But then. I have kyrie chris paul. I think klay is healthy. He's got be in there and westbrook. You know what. That means. Paul george and bradley beal and jimmy butler. John moran jamal murray. None of them are my top twenty. It's gangster market missouri. On the max kellerman show espn radio. I thought you smoke on ramp where you picked yourself up and guiding. Yeah well i mean. He's he's new to the league. Basically gotta give him a minute. He had a great play first. Playoff series of his career goes five games. They lose of course because he's a high number two overall pick in the draft because the team isn't very good yet but for the series he averages over thirty points with like eight times for the series eight say. Espn seven to nine. Three seven seven six randy in florida. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio your team is doing a good job man. You gotta go easy on them Talk that is going easy. Got talk talk for a second about about the man to man defense era versus zone arab because we got a lot of great players today that do a lot of great things about. I don't know if they'd be able to do those same things. Play twenty five thirty five years ago. I well that may be true. I mean the the league is change in a way where a primary ball handler can really run up big numbers. And but that's partly because steph showed the imagination to say no. I can take a shot from anywhere. I'll practice that shot from long long long super long-range and league imitated him. Because it worked you know that's it's not just the way defense has changed and rules have changed. Its the skills that the players have developed as they learned to play more efficiently dalton and iowa. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio max. Going first time. Caller longtime listener thanks. i just wanna say that tom brady. I feel when i watched that clip. He's mocking gruden. He does like a little lip curl and during impression. Ooh good You know what. I gotta watch it. I gotta watch it again. That's right is he is actually mocking is he. Doing a send up. is he gonna tation. It's a good point from dalton in iowa. Why would he want the raiders. So bad i look at the raiders. I don't see a team. That's ready to win right now when i look at minors do although making the niners. Don't even like when you draft a rookie quarterback when you have super bowl aspirations. It tells me you think you're gonna win the super bowl with a rookie quarterback right tells me maybe i think more than niners than they think of themselves right now chris and illinois on the max kellerman show. Espn radio yeah. I just wanted to get into that. Nj kt Debate with who worked gifted early on mean michael's hands are definitely a big time gifts. I mean even phil jackson that. That's what separates michael from kobe. His michael air jordan away. He hung in the air. The hang time. I mean you can teach vertical jumps. But you can't teach that hang time. You're right third or fourth of all the way. He used to come toward his body when he's no shots so they want i mean it's often imitated. But never do. That's right but katy's a better shot than michael. Katie shot was more pure than michael. And it's not like michael didn't practice shooting katie's more gifted in that way in that specific hand i way he seems to me to be more gifted not to take anything away from k. d. the work he's put in but he's a pure shot than jordan or lebron and then given his height i think he is the most gifted now jordan's in that conversation and so is lebron jordan's the smallest data those guys but he jumped the highest in fact if you line them all up and had the mall jump as high as they could jordan's finger would be highest in the air at a forty eight inch vertical. He's six added up. Lebron eight with a forty four inch vertical. I don't know what kevin durant verdes i doubt. It's forty like lamb. Maybe the point is they're all extremely gifted but you have a hell of an argument. That katy is the most gifted andrea massachusetts. You got thirty seconds. You're on the max kellerman. Show your masks. We saw last night. That trae young. I it certainly gifted but i can't put him above steph curry right now. Even though his successive bloom large me neither. I'm talking about ceiling. I'm just talking about his potential ceiling since i value the postseason and only the postseason. I don't really care about the regular season. Since i value the postseason. He has potentially his potential to be a better postseason player than steph hundred percent. Max but we have to remember what steps did in two thousand fifteen before. Kevin durant came to town. He did lead them to that championship. She was so badly outplayed by lebron on the other team that they gave the mvp two dollar because they couldn't give it to steph. No he he. He did not lead them. 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Hour 2: What's Next For Lillard?

The Stephen A. Smith Show

36:43 min | 5 months ago

Hour 2: What's Next For Lillard?

"The max kellerman show the podcast. Is the max kellerman. Show kellerman show on espn radio max. Kellerman tony of radio and espn walsall's check me out on the espn app. Siriusxm channel eighty. Wherever you get your podcast. What were the lakers thinking. Eighty eight say. Espn eight eight eight. Seven two nine. Three seven seven six to max. Keller jokes is ended by progressive. Insurance lakers lose two sons one. Thirteen one hundred. There are eliminated from the playoffs. Suns advanced after beating. La one thirteen one hundred and game six of their first round series devon booker. I told you before the series many mamba game high forty seven points eleven boards eight threes in those forty seven points and eight times three is twenty four and i got right off the top of my head. I did that. That's right raj. Times knows twenty four right away so more than half of his points off threes but he's still scored over twenty points without shooting threes. What do you think of that. That's i just did. I just did division and multiplication subtraction. Why you but max. 'cause you're the best i tell you. Sons led by as many as twenty nine in the first half. The la was ranked number one in defense per possession efficiency bef- before the playoffs started. But guess what their best defensive player in the second best player overall team in the guy who was really the main offensive weapon even last year in the run to the title ad one playing. Actually it was even worse when he was why would they put him in game. Six not eighty s full. Not full knows faulted. It's our fault who's who's asked defense getting on a d. right the media. Let me start with me. I called him mr glass charles. Barkley called them street. Clothes stephen a. said i don't care what the medical guys say. This is up two. Ad don't wait for the medical guys to clear you really. Well listen to all that i guess. And he gave it his best shot. It's up to the lakers to stop him from hurting himself and them. Because let me tell you. You're down three games to two even if they can help you in game six. You're gonna lose game seven now because he definitely won't be able to play right or or let me put it another way. Clearly from the conditioner. Eighty was in. He was only going to be able to play in one of the following the next two games. So what's better. Forget about what order they come in. What's better for him to be a more diminished version of himself. That makes him. Maybe compromised the following series. If somehow you should win. That's if he plays game six or for him to be a more rested closer to full version of himself in game seven and then less likely to damage himself further for the following series. Which one. because you know what you know what a groin strain is it. Means a tiny little micro tear in the in the muscle. You know how. I know this doctor. Clapper of seven ten. Espn told me all about this back in the day. Anyway it's worse than that though not making sense along. Those lines. eighty came out limping. Everyone could see chris. Paul ran the whole offense into anyone who who eighty was guarding wherever it was. That's where the offense was going and it made it worse but it's worse even than that. The lakers team was so discombobulated by this that they were down almost thirty by the half. But it's worse than that because lebron bad ankle and all once. They got a cohesive. Kind of game plan together. they're going to go small. Bring some energy the cut to single digits from almost thirty. They made up almost twenty points now. They only lost by thirteen. So by my calculations they had a chance to win the game had they not started a d. In the first place frank vogel. What happened new newest going to be difficult for him to be able to move from a treatment standpoint to loosen it up in us. Open it some in game. Adrenaline will also help with it But you know certainly wasn't Wasn't moving well at all star game and then went down Grabbing at one point early in the first. Anthony davis would you. Why did you want to be out there for a situation when it all by obsolete. 'cause lay down not be able to do it. It never really snow build. But i gotta say it once to just to competitive nature need to go out out detained not body three fall. We falls may run guys myth Smart tonight right next year to have a full everyone who loved especially god that her hundred shares. Your body's rescued bodies and get ready for next season. This is what i'm going to a direct by to lebron meantime left the court for the game was over. Didn't shake hands. Not a great look for him. I think he's just not used to losing in the first round. Bet you wish you could have that one back and was very frustrated. Lebron what was it like getting knocked out of the playoffs in the first round for the first time in your career started so fast after leaving the bubble. Obviously the one thing that bothers memorial. Anything we'd never got an opportunity to see ours. Our full team at full strength either because of injury or kobe or or something going on with our ballclub. This year could never fully get into a rhythm and never really kind of see the full potential but we will capable of and You know but but on all my hat's off so it's everyone on. His team showed up every day to work every day to compete. Shot everyday to put time and effort and Nominally feel short of our goal would do everything we could to be as good as we could be range could be under circumstances. What do you think the odds are. The kyle kuzma still on the team. Next year. i mean the reason he's on the team in the first place is because no one wanted them right like. That's why the lakers couldn't unload them in any of those trades. I'm sure they were like. Hey we'll throw in coups mma and the pelicans like we'll take ingram. Thank you very much. By the way it's about a year ago. Now do you remember. Maybe a little more people are saying coups. Moat was one of the big three with lebron ad. And i tried to correct people back that big three. Get to be an average player. Your position first. Nba playoffs are on espn radio tune in tonight for game. Six is the mavericks host. The clippers presented by indeed coverage begins at eight thirty pm eastern on most. Espn radio stations. Like a game seven. Because nobody's trying to see damian lillard one of the questions players over like game seven where we are now is a good. I don't know shake loose. Like obviously is is wasn't good. Enough nuggets eliminate the blazers as i thought they would behind Nikola yokich is performance. Joker was the best player in the series including damian lillard. Like everyone's gotta get through their heads. Yoga jane from here. He's not a high flier. He's not a great defender although not the worst. He's just the league. Mvp this year. He's going to be and the best player in the playoff series with damian lillard. One of the things about damian lillard is that he's going to max contract and he's worth every penny right. Who would want damian lillard on their team but in a league with the salary cap even if it's soft cap if you pay lillard max deal you must have another player at least as good as him if you wanna even win a single championship and it may not be enough. You need another player. At least as good as lillard like lillard probably best being having someone a little better than him on the team and then have another all star two and then maybe you win a championship. That's how hard it is in the nba. Think of the teams that win. Titles steph klay dre iggy still not quite enough like if the other teams not hurt like the cavs were the first time they played. It's not enough. We need to get k. D. on top of that jordan pippen either grant or rodman. That's what it takes. Kobe and shaq in their primes. It's hard magic angry. have throwing james worthy. It's hard very few champions. Where the best player is damian lillard level and i love lillard love him but we just have to be gift to be have a sober assessment of the quality of each player. Yokich is a foot taller so he's better. He's one of the one of the greatest passers ever he can dominate on the boards. He can control the offense the flow of a game. He can score down low he can shoot from the outside. Nuggets might get out of the west. They could do what. I wouldn't put it past them porter junior shooting lights out real deep back court even without you. Mammary jamal murray was on denver. Right now i pick him to get out of the west absolutely. They would get out of the westwood jamal. Murray without him they still might yokich. Is that good. By the way he's going to be the best player in every series he plays in the western conference right now. Jeremy and utah. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio things. Why do you hate seattle so much. I would use them to clippers overpriced underperforming group. Like what's your beef would seattle. I think they can own this team. Horrible then you just change the name back to the sonics and you're fine. You're good just just make it the sonics. I agree with you. Don't wanna call them the clippers. Change the name of the team back to seattle. The clippers are a good team. Seattle's a great market. No my issue is the. La clippers are doomed. Andre in toronto. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio yeah. I'm hearing a lot of what ifs about the lakers by Comic question is What if This is the beginning of the run. What if the lakers overcame their hand. putting that together ad lebron but they've already resulted in a championship. How could it have been overplayed like think of how many teams develop prospects and have plans that tank for two three seasons and then put it all together and finally win out singled Won a championship lebron. These already worked anything more than it's gravy. Time to mike jordan on the goodyear hotline jordan. Spn analyst jordan. Where do the lakers go from here. You know i've been asking myself that question all morning. Max and if you go back and you think about this series and this season as a whole what we saw was a team that you know was never healthy. Didn't gel chemistry wise and as working with the number of people inside that organization and despite all the talent the issue really all year was chemistry and they never felt like they got it together. I never felt like they got it wrong last year. In the bubble they really gelled and everyone seem to really like each other and understand the role when you lose davis obviously if you have poor chemistry or subpar chemistry than it really rears its ugly head and their whole offense revolved around him. Whenever lebron is not a hundred percent you know they really relied on. Add create for everyone else and not having him available. Basically the last three games and having lebron clearly wasn't one hundred percent with that ankle. You saw a team that is just not there. They don't have the horses. And then you saw team in phoenix that is built to win right now and learning how to win on the on the job which is really exciting as a young team so i think the counter or the dichotomy. There was really interesting as well from an nba. Fan standpoint jordan schulz. Espn nba analyst and insider. Joined us. damian. Lillard need to leave portland well. He's a loyal guy. Max and the sense i get. Is that despite everything that's happened. And maybe that kind of cryptic instagram post. I don't think he will. I think he's still you know he's in his prime. He's going to go into his thirties. And he's still obviously playing at a p caliber level. But my sense in speaking with people within the organization and then around the league is that they want to make it work there. He wants a new coach. I think they will move on from terry stotts by extension And i think they're really working toward how can we make damon. Cj work and. i think they really want to. And they believe they can. And i think obviously starts with dame who who my impression is that he does want to stay and he wants to be a blazer for the rest of his career well. They are undersized as as a combination indian. Cj and the issue of the market like portland is if there's a guy in his sixth season. Who's a max contract type guy. He's usually not going to mandate the portland right he. It's it's not as sexy. A market is some other markets and so knowing they're not gonna give up the farm to get the guy for one year and i'm looking at ways for them to get better newell shares an excellent. Gm gm's you know he's he's great. He's not like the best. Gm and league but he's very good. Jimmy good with the clippers to and starts is an excellent coach. There are better coaches. But he's excellent. They're all competent. By the way damian lillard an excellent star there are better stars so given the market the fact that none of those guys are the best. How do they win a championship up there. Like who could they possibly going get and keep mccullum and lillard merkich plus whoever pow whoever else simon who how you get so i think the four core guys need to be. Cj dame catch and simon. Those are the guys that are dementia moved. And you can build around them and then you're talking about the draft and they are going to have some cap. I don't think carmelo we'll be back. They obviously traded Gary trent. For norman powell. He'll be back and they'll have some cap and they'll have to rely on dame to make sales pitch and and that's where also having a new head coach with a new vision that maybe has around the league. I'm thinking of like a jason kidd. That's when that comes into effect. And he can help you. Recruit and i spoke with jason. This morning There was the league leader system with the lakers. He's the guy that i think would help. You need someone like that. It's been around the league. Maybe david vanterpool. Who was with portland has a great relationship with dame and cj and was Was like oh by the timber wolves. It never been the head coach. You need someone like that. Because you're right. It's not a big market. It's kind of like an indiana or milwaukee where you don't necessarily get prime free agents. You need your stars to go out and recruit. And that's what i think they'll have to do jordan's espn nba analyst and insider talks to everybody on the goodyear hotline. Max kellerman show. Espn radio jordan. Who wins like forget about the series. Can the clippers get to a game seven. No oh game. Seven game seven. Oh max this is the weirdest series i've seen all five teams wrote-off games have been won by the road team. Have you ever seen that by the way. Not off the top of my head. I can't think of a single. I'll bet i'll bet you we've lived with a couple times but i can't remember. It's a very strange deal. So i i don't. I don't think they can win this series. Maybe they'll get to a seven. They're actually flight favorites. And i two and a half three points against dallas on the road. Which i thought was a little surprising which makes me think you gotta take dallas. Because they're they're begging you vegas begging you to take the clippers but their problem really has been the same issue. They've had the last two years which is You yes you have an alpha male and kawhi leonard but you also have kind of this randomly Peace team together pieces. That don't necessarily fit morrison jackson. You pay kinara. Money doesn't play and you don't really know from game to game in the playoffs. If you're going to get a superstar effort from paul george so for me. That's he was flawed. They've been flawed. Dallas is certainly not a perfect roster. But when you have johnson's playing a forty point triple double level game. You're not going to beat them. So i like dallas tonight and even if clippers win tonight i like dallas in the series as i have and i think the clippers are going to have to really starting with the head coach and tie lou. I'm looking at the western conference right now. Jordan and something occurs to me about people's reaction to denver in particular but people don't want yokich to be the story because denver is not a mega market. Yokich was not born here. Yokich is not a high flier or a garden. A league dominated by ball handlers. He's just the best player in every series and his team keeps winning. And deep deepen the back or puerto rican score but as a forward but then they're just doing this without jamal. Murray like i think they have a shot to get out of the west. Do they have a shot that jamal murray to get out of the west i. I don't think they have enough offensively because what's going to happen again against the better team a better defense. You know portland at was really a bottom twenty six twenty seven different all year. They struggled to defend. So when you go up against a better defense What happens is yoke. It's all of a sudden you can run everything through But when you don't have murray you don't necessarily have that second option. All the time and i know puerto was great against portland and he's super talented but he's barely. He's the baby in this league and for him for you. Expect him to go for twenty five plus every night. It's not realistic against an elite defense. So you know when you play a team like utah or or phoenix you. They have more bodies more size and they have better defenses like the reason. The suns beat the lakers one. Big reason was they guard the three the fact that denver suits so many threes and suits them. Well is great when you're when you're going up against the bad defense. You're just not going to get those same look so for me. What happens is for denver. Who who's gonna be a great story in this playoff there. They just don't have enough offense in my opinion even with yoga. It's going for thirty and ten to to persevere. But max it's a great story and you'll get an unbelievable player and they literally run him off pin downs. He runs pick and roll. He's truly unicorn and the in every sense of the word meantime in a year where it looked likely that have new york l. a. Looks like we could be heading for utah and milwaukee. We'll have to wait. Okay there you go jordan. Show like utah. Utah like the team. But don't let the nets get started. The nets milwaukee's a great series. All right jordan. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks as always for coming on. You can hear on shorts here on the max kellerman show weekly. See him on the board room on. Espn plus all over the place. Goodyear helping you discover the road ahead. Goodyear more driven because jordan. Join me on the goodyear hotline coming up. This logan paul have a shot at floyd mayweather. This weekend people are asking me this. Believe it or not friends. If you're in a job you can't stand or your unemployment benefits will be ending. You need to go to my computer career dot. Edu fill out the free career evaluation form. I've personally spoken to them. And they're so legit. Employers are lining up to hire their graduates in as little as four months. 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Curry's babe ruth babe ruth one hundred years ago literally over a hundred years ago at this point in a league told you don't swing for the fences like a big strong. I swing for the fences so he hit like fifty fifty nine home runs fifty four homeless when no one else had more than ten right and then guys all look what you can do. So jimmie foxx lou. Gehrig came along and did almost what ruth. They weren't as good as him but they approximated him. He showed the way steph. Curry showed the way guys like damian. Lillard and trae young are approximations of steph. So yeah the answer is no doubt. Okay okay hey mexico's national. Hug your cat day. max prefers cats overall. I do no doubt. Yep i liked. I liked cats too and Used to be on the fence. Marcellus was a cat guy and michelle beedle was a dog lady and the two of them used to argue about this sports nation. All the time. And i was like peace among the cats and dogs. They're both great not create like people over. It's enough you know people to attached to their pets. But over time i realized i prefer cats. They're less work. You know like who needs you. Don't have to walk them and do all this pet them a little bit and scratchy them and that's get the hell out of here all right. Hey man take listen to tampa bay bucks. Head coach bruce. aaron okay. yeah. We talked about the whole thing. You know we're what we're thinking and You know he's he's so super interested and all that stuff too. So i mean yeah we had a number of conversations and heavy got closer and closer you know say hey check this out. Check this guy out and see if you like him and And also it Yeah we have great relationship. La see now what he was talking about. This is that was from the rich eisen show. He was talking about his conversations with tom. Brady in choosing you know in their picks and things that they do with the team. So what i'm asking. You is bruce. Errands was actually throwing shade of green bay. Front office nas on. He's talking about his relationship with bringing the green bay front office threw shade on themselves. They sought the she'd you know like i if arians explaining what he does with his core he's supposed to lie about it not answer it to make green bay feel better. Know what he's showing what it shows. It's not that he's showing it demonstrates how stupid the green bay front offices even if you don't take his suggestions wouldn't you want to pick the brain of a football genius like barron rogers football genius. You don't want to pick his brain. What are you insane it. It doesn't make any sense but anyway no areas yeah. He's got a football genius on his team. He's like oh. Let me let me let me pick his brain. I have a resource year. Let's use it. That's right that's right. You know. Logan pause fighting fighting floyd mayweather this week in do the show. Paul's a friend of the show. Hey listen to what he said sound well he was on this. Show the max kellerman show thing. I just want it more. I think i think his age. I think is greed is is finally gonna to catch up to him know he is doing this fight for the money. He's doing this fight for an easy payday and he's really really underestimating me. Like i'm. I'm not the guy i when i when i spar always reach a level of my opponent and then surpass them And i have everything to gain and nothing to lose. And that's that's the scary guy. That's a scary guy to be in the ring with. We heard that so. Logan hall has a shot against floyd mayweather. This sunday nas on but i. I love the way that paul jake. Paul speaks when you talk to them. The present very rational cases whether or not you agree with them. You see exactly where they're coming from and they understand why they like. Listen i know how this sounds from the outside. But this is how i feel about it. He's right he has a size advantage. that's enormous. He is a youth advantage. He's taking it seriously. Mayweather is not the problem is this mayweather can roll out of bed and spar in inexperienced cruiserweight and there's nothing that inexperienced cruiserweight going to be able to do with them. And that's what. Logan paul is is an inexperienced cruiserweight so even though he's twenty six whatever and may whether it's forty four ain't gonna make a difference. I mean it will make a difference. But i ain't gonna be enough for him to hit floyd mayweather let alone beat them so nacion. Yeah i wanted to say about cats and dogs thing is. I realize i'm not in the poop. Collecting business roj. You'd mentioned that before. Yeah i don't wanna be in that business. Go around and people put the bags on their hands. It's hot still and they pick it. That's what kids are for. You have three of them right. You wind up walking the dog anyway. A spent like if you're in the country you could let her the subway. You can let the dog out at runs around. Does its business put in new york. You're in the collection business all the sudden. That's not for me. That's the main difference. A cat empty the litterbox or better yet. Have someone else do it. Good all right. Well now we got caught up. So you told me you million corona andrea massachusetts or big. Fill in louisiana on the lakers. Anthony davis emilio in california. On the max kellerman show espn radio maximum. Going on I think the lakers need to blow this team up. Man obviously isn't working and anthony davis man. I love him as a player or the talent. He's undeniably fire talent when he's healthy to here when he actually court. They've played two seasons together and won a championship. We talk it's not working the what any team would make the following deal any team in any sport that ever was would sign up for the following from now on you win. Fifty percent of the championships played okay. I signed up lakers have had for two seasons. They've been in the playoffs twice. Won the championship once andrea massachusetts. Here on the max. Kellerman show on radio. Subject was going on max yes. They have won a championship in the last two seasons. But we all know they had that three months. Yes the last year mac. Listen anthony davis one hundred and sixty four games in his career. That's eighteen games per season. He's not built. He doesn't have the durability back matters. Klutch sports blew it up after the last championship. They had the owner of the looking in the mirror right but in the seasons that he is healthy he went he. He's great and lebron deal challenge for the championship. Whenever they're healthy. Big phil last word louisiana. Then we got another segment to do bad big phil. Yeah max oh check this out. Let's talking about the lakers lost because of the the in availability of antedates. Like you agree with that don't you. I mean they lost because he wasn't available correct correct. Okay all right. The first game that they play deal with rape and they lost. I didn't think they were the sons. I didn't think they want to sweep them. But when the lakers got in a rhythm remember they had everyone coming off injury and absence at the same time d. Miss most of the season came back. Got his feet under him. Beat the suns without lebron and the regular season lebron came back had to get in the flow of things. Schreuder came back cova. Protocols had to get in the flow of things it took him a couple of games and once they got in the flow of things they were better than the sun's then aid and by the way and chris. Paul got hurt. That didn't help the sons. I thought it would be a tough series and go seven and one chris. Paul hurt his shoulder. I thought six maybe five and once they d was out. I was like oh and sure enough they lost. Ain't that complicated. Best team would have been. The lakers would have been better at full capacity and at less. If you take one of their best players away. They were going to be worse. And that's what happened. Max kellerman show. Espn radio crossover. Next morning outside lines the emmy and peabody award. Winning show tackles the most important issues in sports history time. What college athletics is going to look like taking you beyond the headlines to every board is yet your important but you're not as important as the menstrual with perspective from the best analysts in the business stab with the first time. The dallas cowboys. Heavy black quarterback who is one hundred percent the face of the outside lights every saturday at nine am eastern on espn kellerman. Show the podcast. What are we got roger. All right max. This is simple for it. Started off with you. what was metallica's color lack. All you good good good. That's that's right that's right. You ready to be. Wow of course had an out. Metallica course had an album titled black. Yes sir sell out album but still the up okay. Multiple choice for you the Who won the first. Grammy for best rappaport was it. Young mc remember that song with l. o. cool jank was he your favorite kumo or was it. Cj jazzy jeff and the fresh prince who won first grammy for rap performance. I don't know what i think. I think i've heard this before. And i want wanna guest. Hello cougar that would be incorrect right. That was the first choice. roj the first choice was young mc l. o. cool. I'm gonna city i'm going to say it was a dj jazzy. Jeff and the fresh prince. You are two hats right now. We might get the team. So okay this one for you to max. Hey what band grunge ban from seattle. Let know that has spoken germany all. Okay yeah what were you saying. I don't know they called Jeremy is what he's trying to journey the hell are. They called peanut butter. I'm just forgetting let's let me see if to had brennan steal it from me. And then i'll see if if if it's who. I'm thinking of pearl pearl jam peanut butter but it's yeah aub all right. Hey being another multiple choice for you. Which rapper has the most fat face tattoos does it post malone little wayne or gucci mane. Whenever you're reading. I the mo most face you never sit around and just kind of people's face tattoo ridiculous question. What does this choice. I'd like to got a one in three shot. Thanks i understand how it works Thirty three point three percent. And i'll have a one to shy gas gucci mane that is incorrect so it doesn't matter it is little way. Let me match. You have finally play. His music plays a for me. And you know what i get for winning. I get to i get to geek out on my favorite topic. Tell us who this show is presented by on your solar max kellerman shows presented by progressive insurance. That listen to this. Tmz is reporting that the government ufo report has no evidence of aliens but doesn't rule it out. Listen to this you know those unidentified flying objects that have been by the way. I've been saying it on the air The pentagon it's like we don't know what it is barack obama's i don't know we don't we don't there. We don't know pilots said they're moving too fast be earthly technology. They got it on infrared by. They got it with their eyes. They have photographic evidence. It's about the size of an airplane of like a like a passenger plane commercial airline and it goes sixty thousand miles an hour by their calculations. Whatever it is and it doesn't seem to have a propelled propulsion system. So listen to this. I've said there's a one in five shot. This thing is alien advanced alien technology right. The us government set to release an unclassified report on ufo's for the first time ever and while intelligence officials reportedly found no evidence. These mysterious unexplained flying objects alien spacecraft. I mean what would be the evidence right. it doesn't discount it either. According to reports the upcoming ufo report is expected to be delivered to congress sometime before june. Twenty fifth doesn't completely rule out the possibility of ufo's encountered by navy pilots in recent years are aliens is just that there's no solid proof instead. The report is expected. Confirm that these objects are not top secret american technology. That's interesting if it's true but could potentially be experimental or hypersonic aircraft of other countries that we have some issues with like russia and china. Here's the problem navy. Pilots seen objects in the air. Do things that defy any technology known demand for example there are images on radar showing spherical objects that have no wings no engines no emissions and they operate in ways that the physics and gravity navy pilots object to eighty thousand feet corinne to twenty thousand feet in the second. Half some of these objects appear to submerge in the ocean yet submarines found no traces traces of debris pressure is mounting for some for more transparency from the government about ufo's ever since the pentagon confirmed the existence of an unidentified aerial phenomena ap was just the new name for ufo's back in april by the way this is all because of this show raj notice. See how i'm talking about it now. Tmc's picking it up. This led. Politicians like senator martin heinrich and senator marco rubio to call for more investigating with ruby going far say. Ufo's pose a risk to our national security. Well finally this guy figure something out. Right it's ufo's whether they're alien or not any unidentified. Flying objects in our airspace is a national security concern. Of course the upcoming report seems like a starting point but according to outlets like the new york times there's still no explanation from intelligence officials on how these ufo's are able to accelerate and maneuver like they do one thing's for certain though we're not all crazy you see raj now outlets are picking it up. The new york times is talking about it now. All because of me and the max keller on espn radio. That's how i choose to see it. How do you think my sports takes are so advanced. I'm talking to the aliens. Of course max kellerman show. Espn radio have a great week embassy on monday. Thanks for listening to the max kellerman show make sure you subscribe rate and review. You can hear the show. Live weekdays at two pm eastern on. Espn radio espn news. Or wherever you stream your audience do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. 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"I what you need to know is being brought to you by morongo casino resort and spa good times less than ninety minutes from wherever you are. Now listen before we get back to keyshawn johnson and clinton yates. We're going to get to what you need to know. But i'm calling all l. Afc fans were given away. Sweet passes to see l. afc vs sporting casey. It's next friday. September third at bank of california stadium. Caller number you're ready for this clinton. Yates let me travis. Ready for this caller number nine teen is gonna win the sweet tickets keesa. Did you know why that is greg. Bergman i nineteen making it difficult on laura with no one else there. Why do you think nineteen thank you. Oh nineteen for keyshawn joe. It's our guest. You know he's nine to. I don't know you there by herself. So at first. I pick overall how about that. We go caller number one over this clean. The aids is too handsome to say no to one eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn eight seven seven. Seven three seven six special thanks to body armor more than a sports drink stock up on body armor sports. Drink at your local albertson's laura romo. What do we need to know and keyshawn can now hear you. Let's have laura iron guy. So what were you guys doing at eleven years old. I wanna know before. I get into my what you need to know because it matches an eleven years old. I'm saying this because they just came from a place called williamsport pennsylvania. The home literally growth series. I was hard core playing baseball. Picking it up on the dirt. Paint my cleats black keyshawn domino's thing to do okay. Eleven years old. What was i doing. I probably was giving somebody twenty ten five or something. Let me his own cooking on the court baseball too but eleven here for sure. There are a lot of wiffle ball baseball cards literally going on in my life. Is that when you figured out the change it because like before twelve years old is when. You're not supposed to throw curveballs plant based on the change when you turn thirteen. We'll teach you the curveball. Right through the curve was all day long. That's why you were football player. No but we supposed to do with but it was wicky told them knuckle feel knuckleball. Was crazy everywhere. Hold on we got a knuckle john. You threw a knuckleball that i never heard. It's safe to say. Because i got gotta wrangle all you boys back. Even though i'm not thinking about my hebrew school girls that i was trying to repair to get into that person to person. It's fine railroad personal anyways. So it's safe to say none of you guys. Were at a stage doing some type of concert right so nancy boo shell. Eleven year old music prodigy came out with the foo fighters last night at the forum and perform ever long drums. Yeah yeah so none of you. Don't look impressed. you look like at eleven years old. You could have easily perform viral star the invited reports date and she rocked it with the foo fighters who in some people's minds and all the time legendary rock band. How do you feel good. I just let me know. I was playing the drums in front of dave grohl trump. Set that i didn't know i'm hitting it. Trump come on man stop. You sound like a role was talking to me the other day on my show about golf and tennis and a young age. I'm like seriously talking to me about sitting man stop. We have enough money to go to a damn public swimming pool and you talking about golfing tennis. Yeah so nandy bouche. Eleven years old rock the forum with the foo fighters last night. That's what y'all need to know that is that is cool man. That was really cool. Some people thinks all time legend. I mean listen. The first of all crazy arlington. Virginia which is outside of the district of columbia. Which is the town that i'm from. He is respected in this household. I'm just i thought serious nickens phuc's last move. We got nothing to prove it went platinum. Look it up anyway. Save goal is from alexandria arlington area. Which is outside of dc. So we respect him in this household. I just don't know how everybody else feels about foo fighters. That's i'm a fan. I'm a fan. But i'm not crazy. Fan there no chilies. That's all i'm saying. Oh you did you hear flea calling yeltsin about my liquor takes what all flee because i was not a fan of the westbrook deal flea from the red hot chili peppers called up and decided to yell at me for five. Flea is the russell westbrook of the westbrook like that. Though man wasn't that's not an insult. I don't think it's a good idea still. I didn't don't probably never will right. Yeah that's what's up. We're listening to espn la. We got we got going on over here. We've got some stuff great. pay back. Pain is having issues. What is it was an. Es now now now we can't talk the best show in the history of the program. So how have you been just switch gears. Yeah how do you feel about your division. How your dodgers doing so what you mean okay. Can i ask the base. i'll ask you that. How are you feeling defending the dodgers on the east coast. I think we straight we. Did we win the night before. Yes okay well. i'm straight to the heart as it was supposed to be our guys six seven months ago when he was on our show. I can go back and rewind if you wanna could taste talk jacques. What i said was watching selves. You might not be dependent team wrong guy. Caught about machado. All that i know. Set up for that bill bell. Check your record. I know the dodgers are the better team. They don't have the better record right now. Cain everything that don't like say everything. Many many things have gone wrong for the dodgers absolutely very very. Few things have gone wrong for the giants. Correct those things you know this one hundred sixty two games. Those things tend to kind of final. But we're at one third. And i know i get i. Can't we're getting this is this is how let me give you this way over the last twenty games. The dodgers have gone seventeen in three and only picked up a single game. Okay sixteen four but you can flip it the other way. The giants have played out of their minds and have not pulled away. So we're still banking ending for the giants. Which is fair. Dot net enemy. The league in homers not in their out of control in august not ending. I think what happens. Is they have a week where they go five or ten day window. Let's take a week all of a sudden you're even right. And i know that the dodgers are gonna come back but i truly don't win the division to get in. I think donald carter the key question key because you don't want to face somebody in one game situation anybody. You wanna play the marlins. Nobody wants to play that. That's just fine but if we get in we get in right. It's all it matter. They're going to catch him. I keep telling myself that. I'm kind of trying to talk myself into but i truly believe it because you're getting your guys back movies back. Segers secrets been good since he's come back. Trade turner might be the best player on the team. Wrap believe i had that when he showed up tried to tell y'all he's an impact baseball tremendous base tremendous field or plus plus arm on the with us a month. Yeah you're on a team that has four. Mvp's on yeah. That's a pretty good wrong. I like all this baseball talk. But i heard you say on the radio the other day keyshawn that you don't seem as bullish on matthew. Call me keyshawn. Where would you like me to call you key. What why is it like your mom call. You know it's it's is asking nicely this weird. I'm like nobody. Call you sean. Everybody just goes to show this work as a bad radio pete killer. Laurie music key. That's better. I liked camp. That's much better. Thank you kaplan. How are you people. call me. Scott like hey. I knew that. I'll stop so listen i heard you the other day. Say this on the air. And i liked it a lot. You're not as hyped as everybody else about matthew stafford. I mean it's not that i'm not high. I just i'm not i know what i see and i understand what i see. He could very will be a good piece for the rams to advance in katina move forward. I just don't when i look at certain things. I don't get caught up in the narrative about what other analysts around the country may say about a particular player because they are basically in my opinion piggybacking off of somebody else. I don't believe there's analysts and sports. Do they frequent homework. I think that they just they just you know this. Do this do going to say it's like wait a minute man. There's no difference to me between car in stafford. Look at the numbers. Ain't that which all difference which we don't say you don't think he's a better deliver of the football you flat out. Don't but why is the comparison. I'm asking you. I'm not implying that he's not well. The reason that the reason that that came up is because they were playing each other getting ready to play each other team predict playing. Abc's the conversation was would you rather have said it's the same so it washed but we the conversation be wouldn't you rather have gone because the rams got to the divisional round. Despite the fact that the weakest link in the chain was there was. It wasn't even about golf. This was about car stafford. How much gave a staffer versus. What could you have given up for car got it. It's essentially the numbers. And i don't know if i heard what she said. Well first of all. I had to go double check out you know. I didn't have a computer in front of me. This is brain. That's all the numbers. Because you all is the numbers virtually identical to you. I swear to you is in my brain. No numbers no sitting around. I just said the question was in our production meeting. Who would have the same. So why did you say. I say y'all say the numbers is what prove. Just look at the numbers here. They're same over the seven years at this do gene numbers wise but we were at rams camp about up in oakland vegas. he ain't never had no make trump. Let me ask you this. We were at rams camp the other week in quickly. I know we're up against it and they'll run into. We're familiar with your work. I like to block myself point. Is that the. President was a presence element in terms of what stafford brought to the table. That i think counted for something. Are you saying that. In this case the numbers on the numbers matchup enough. That were like that doesn't matter. Because i think that matters. You know what. I'm saying if you've got a leader not a guy trying to prove himself. It's a difference. I think cars leader if he didn't get hurt the ramp. Rams the raiders could very well be rent run really deep into the playoffs a year that he was an mvp candidate until he hurt his ankle and they went to houston and lost in after that. He bounced back. Right under. jack. Del rio jack del. Rio in my opinion shouldn't have been fired. Audrey without in so you look at that and you go to yourself okay. They were heading the right direction even though gruden came in in in basically through a cocktail bomb in the whole thing and blew it up. They car still continue to play well. Last year he played well despite not having any true wide receivers except the tight end. He's played with nothing. Close to make a tron. So when i look at that i'm sitting there i'm going okay. Well if i insert this do in this lineup with all this other stuff around what is gonna happen but if you get done if you make the deal even if it was expensive right even talking to first round draft picks super expensive is if you go and you win who cares right. Say right there fifth. If we'd all be. I don't know the end of that. Thought we got. We got kisha to. Because we're we're getting ready to hit a break here. That is my go-to thought. Where are you laughing at morales. That's an instant promo. That's an interesting not on this is great rallies now. it's on. That was the best moment of the whole day. You're like when key dropped that bomb. You like that. That was good. He's a bomb dropper. He is a bomb dropped. Yeah but i've seen her to hold that thought like that's because i'm trying to. There's another one. We always laugh about that. Kaplan does which one repeating himself over and over. He likes to repeat the question. Good question which one is it laura. It's one reason. I got a quick story but it turns into. That's because you guys instead of me instead of me being able to stretch out. And i feel like i'm being taken off their heads listening. I got ten seconds. Yeah forget about stick around. We're here at the hollywood park casino keys key. Not keyshawn keys here. It's sodano and cap on seven ten. Espn just things have just gone exactly the way. I mean the runway crowd. I mean travis and i had a whole bunch of time earlier today to do some dating talk and now he's shot showed up to say h is here key showed up and then you know just things. Things became chaotic. Frankly with you man. Why do crowd well man. I'm just glad to be here. We're glad to have you cheeseheads. Just walks in. The building was very nice areas. Fan all coming up here. I big deal or no deal. Greg bergman and chris morales. Would you get involved here. Can you wanna play you all be involved you damn quickly. Thank you chris. You're right here right there. Do you want to say always shouldn't do live and recorded chris. That's there's a lot of chris producer. Greg hey thanks chris. I really appreciate that. We're going to start with key. He's silly oh sorry no different games wholly different times by the way eight fifty five to eleven fast track promo or pretty much gone. Same this is key. It's basically big deal no deal you say whether it's a big deal or no deal is gone. We've all these. Tv t. v. we call this buyer sell answers meaning. Quick quick brought this from one of the tv shows. You're getting in the way philip. Philip rivers has retired from the nfl and a lot of retired players. Go into the broadcast booth or try and get onto an nfl team or a coach rivers going to the sidelines but as a high school. Football coach and one is first game. Last night with saint michel catholic school in fair hope alabama by the score of forty nine to nothing. Ran up the score out here. Banging people as is rivers as a high school coach overrated or under. Sorry big rockdale goodness. Jesus loves me the river. Big deal big deal or no deal rivers as a high school coach. Big deal why we say big deal. That's moving whatever you're thinking why right. He's an ideal because he's a former. Nfl quarterback that knows what the hell do. We haven't missed it. I like to for all of my future answers to key to do. I don't want to be involved in this. I want you to take all my questions. There he says the bill big to me. Because it's fun to see. Philip rivers having fun doing something. That's not playing football in the nfl when guys leave the league. You always wonder what you're gonna do. You know what i'm saying. He seems to be having a good time with this. I like that until you see him about three years from now. He looks like he's aged ten years. So that's not on me. Say that he. I don't he's been a professional football player for a really long time if he knows what. It's like to be home with all ten of his kids. He's probably gonna want to go back and play football. At some point we got ten. What do you think sorts. i'm here for the bits. Oh you are and you're one giant bit. That's right a walking bit sunday swagger shirt you swagger ran go ahead. I'm going to say no deal. And here's why because everybody knew philip rivers. That's what he wanted to do. Philip rivers was his dad was his dad was a high school coach. Yeah he was he he. He wanted to be a high school coach the entire time he was in the nfl. Now he's a high school coach. He'll be back in the nfl this year. All right next quarterback and coach's coaching quarterbacks late for that. Now true i mean you could do it at. The end of the quarterback is the worst coach position in the league when they can't do it in the middle of the year. now when carson wentz gets hurt and the culture trying to figure out what to do a quarterback and he's done with. I think he's gonna play thanksgiving. I think that's once frank reich calls them back and says come back and play. He's done now all right. So let's move on and we'll go to clinton who many blue yes question. Too key question to clinton will start with you okay. Do you remember former new england. Patriot quarterback scott zolak to. You knows what's wrong. Zolak reporting from pats practice and said that the patriots should turn off the rap music. Because it's to say to say it again directing to what music the rap music what music the rap. Music the rap. I do know that when that word is said in my house we understand how it sounds the rap music. I'm just reading the distracting to camp in between every throw he's dancing is zolak saying this big deal or no deal deal because they'll like a clown i'll say straight up that's ridiculous thing to say. Listen the way the pillars motivated in the. Nfl is on them. And if you're gonna start telling people that rap music who says be twenty one actually. It sounds like it. Sounds like a massive dog whistle. And that's the end of the story. If cam newton lost the job in camp because cam newton lost the job in camping ain't got nothing to do with was playing on the soundtrack. You know what i'm saying. It's got to do with what happens on the field and listen. I'm not going to get all off onto it but like this is a take for me flatly. So that's why it's a big deal. Because i hear for head travis. He's been a new car. Whatever you get the in front of the white that's how you know what he's you know. He's he's letting you know he didn't have to say it any other way he lets you know exactly where he is in the word. The wasn't giveaway rapidy rats. Yeah the rap music. it's not it is looking under over his glass. Those are mine are we. Got real short. Ki ki big deal. Oh deal it's a. It's a big deal because zoellick kind of put his foot in his mouth but he also kind of told us who he was You know and it is what it is. Is boston massachusetts. I get it understand it being on the east coast in living there in new york. I kind of follow east coast. Sports a little closer to them or noun idea when i was on the west coast so i can kind of see when. Somebody's in a booth screaming and yelling for a player to do whale tells me something. He's rooting for mac jones. To get the starting job. I get it mack. Jones looks closer to what you're used to in new england opposed to what cam newton looks like cam newton. We're scarfs his hairs while he wears shoes with us. All this is the rap. Music is allow. All i get it. I understand it. He is a clown period. You can hear the new max. Kellerman morning show with keyshawn. Coming up is a big deal or no deal may listen. You gotta have the right attorney. Call our friends at san menashe law. One eight hundred three four two thousand new max. Keller one eight hundred three awards. Max kellerman show. It's going to park on. It may be thank you. Laura bergmann amanda to all the great seven ten listeners we out.

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The best player game for game in the regular season in this nba season was james harden who the best player in the world regular season. But the guy who's going to win. Mvp because hardin remember didn't join the nets right away. there was some. There was a couple of weeks where he was in houston so he didn't play for the nets that whole time and when he when he was playing for houston. He wasn't the normal. Jr is forcing a trade. So in fact joel embiid was going to be mvp but he missed too much time and yokich was too good to give 'em be the mvp right yokich. Offensively was even better than embiid although he wasn't the same defensively so game for game. Mb was better. Yokich is going to get mvp because even though harden was the very best game for game he wasn't with the nets the whole time. Okay the mvp gets hurt. As mb. Didn't game for their about a sweep washington and nbc. Goes down early in the game. And the way he came down You know a robin lopez hit him in the air madam in the air really like the first quarter of the game game. Four and beat came down the way he came down. It looked like his back. Took the brunt of it when you saw it and i was like. Oh that's going to be bad especially with a guy you know if you talk to people behind the scenes it was embiid's knee coming into the league that people that's why he went third overall instead of i but it was his back. That had the training staff worried in philadelphia as time went on like why wasn't embiid in better shape. Sometimes because you practice yourself into shape if you're having a back issue and you're saving yourself for the game right. And so when i saw that he's grabbing his hip after he comes down on like. Oh but then. It's his neither saying that. Kept them out of the game. That worries me a little bit because the kosinski came down on the back in the hip. That's where the acute pain was right but maybe that was disguising actually where an injury took place with the knee. The sixers better hope. That's not the case because there's not a single team in the nba. Even the net three. We you can take the best player on that team and they win the championship. Ain't gonna happen even the second best player. Like if k d's the best player in that's take him off nets org on the championship take harden off the nets not gonna win the championship. Take lebron or ad off the lakers knocking to win the championship. Take jamal murray second best player on the team off the nuggets nuggets and can win the championship. Maybe maybe they could've competed for one with jamal. Murray is just the way it is and without embiid their sunk they better hope embiid gets back but they should be able to close out washington with ben simmons. Ben simmons you can play just surround them with shooters you build a team around simmons. You won't win the championship because it's not just like well. Ben simmons needs to shoot better the way rondo back in the day needed to shoot better or the way honest needs to shoot a little better know that ben simmons has like a psychotic level of of won't even attempt shot the only shots he attempts are from within eight feet and they'll give them out to twelve feet with absolutely like eight to twelve feet. There's no defensive attention to shoot even a mid range. Just have some kind of offense outside of eight feet any rate that will stop him from winning a championship but not from advancing in the playoffs. They got a lot of defense on that team. Even without embiid fibers and elite defender. Top ten in the league and he has a chance to go down as one of the great defenders who ever lived viable if he continues to develop. It's a little more offensive game so you can keep him out on the floor. Danny green can still defend. He can really three indy. Seth curry can three. At least he can shoot no and tobias harris having his best offensive season offensively offensively. He's very good the sixers should have. Here's the thing you surround them with shooters. What are you going to do to stop. Ben simmons he's gonna drive if you don't double them he's going to get into the paint score if you do. He's gonna find the open man. He's created more. Open looks from three than any player in the league since he entered the league number one. He's like he could be if he could shoot. He could be lebron two point. Oh because he has better handles than lebron and he's just as good passer and he's even a little taller. So yeah you could win a playoff series like this especially up. Three one. With ben simmons but doc rivers better do it. You cannot go down if your doc rivers with one championship in which he had a big three in a league that no one else did right. There was no other big three in basketball. When he had paul pierce ray allen and kevin garnett and he won one championship and spent a lotta time since then blowing. Three one leads. Series and doc is known as a great coach. Great motivator great added plays out of timeouts all that stuff that works in the playoffs but the results have not been there. Let's just be honest. You imagine if the sixers collapsed to a team like washington and there is a danger of that because westbrook and beal even when they turn the ball over lot as they've have recently they can keep attacking keep attacking and make things difficult. Here's doc rivers defending ben simmons who missed out the strategy for washington to win that game at the end of the game to ice. It was put. Ben simmons on the line and have him missed free throws. That's exactly what happened. What about that doc. I didn't think he was scared of the moment. Just didn't make them so You know again would been. We're going to take him on the floor unless you guys weathering suspension the whole game. If anybody wants to do that just let me know And then i'll know don't know basketball right now. Of course you have to play. Ben simmons but the fact is sometimes you take them off ball you have to. Because he can't shoot it all and you put them in the dunker spot and with and beat on the team. That's an issue right because suddenly spacings no good and with embiid and i'll embiid's on the perimeter and beat off the team. It's also not so great. Because as i said you'd like to surround sims shooters and play the way at least milwaukee used to. It may not be great ultimately in the playoffs. But you'll win a lot and at least win a playoff series. You would think surrounding simmons with shooters letting him attack the rim and unlike janas. He doesn't need a head of steam to to get going. He's not a big dressed up as a as a point guard. he's really a point guard. Similar handles the. It can't by the way he shouldn't twenty five percent. Four games from the line that's worse than wilt or shack overshot from the line and those are big but against him in the six ten. He's the height of bigs in the past. Can you carry the team. You got your three shots to win one game right now. Oh he better be able to carry this team. Ben simmons eighty eight say. Espn that's seven to nine. Three seven seven six and you know who will be up for. Ben simmons next should they be able to win a single game in the next three against washington the winner of atlanta and new york which right now looks like it's going to be atlanta. Can they beat atlanta without embiid sideline mike in atlanta. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio not be the atlanta hawks without joel. Embiid now mass. I love the atlanta hawks on february twenty fourth nineteen nine four. What happened on that day. Nine hundred ninety four nineteen ninety seven ninety four. I know i can't. I don't know what happened. That day. Traded dominique wilkins while mcgibbon iraq was at the end by. Then that's okay again man. I didn't wanna play here so you got another play but hold on. I was a knicks fan back. Then you know what the knicks dig with. Patrick ewing the knicks. Instead of letting you. Just kind of peter out on the knicks and getting out of the contract. They traded him for the remains of glen rice and a couple of other players cap problems for years. I understand why you want like why you want dominique respected more than that by the way. You haven't missed much if you're if you're a hawks fan since then all right now as you know guests join me on the goodyear hotline and beating this team without anthony davis is with cpi three now looking healthier growing now with the knee before. I'm hearing a lot of pessimism around the anthony davis about his availability ramona shelburne. Espn senior writer on the goodyear hotline. Ramona you tell me what's up. What's the latest today d Well i think that There's this sense that he's tonight. Feels like be smart. Don't risk it and the question is if they win this one. If there's some have lakers are somehow able to win. Without anthony davis night. You know you keep him out. I think that's the the sense here because generally we have an injury like this. It's it's ten days you know. That's that's a normal groin injury. But i think the way he got hurt with it being on the same side is the knee. That was kinda messed up. And you know it's it's there's a. There's a whole kinetic chain right it starts with your foot then it goes to your knees then. It goes to your quater hamstring. Sometimes you're growing so it's like should you be putting him back out. I think the lakers would love to not have to put him out there For a little while. But i if they lose you have to say but if they win if the game on the road they have more time to rest wreck they will not play him in a game. Six right well i. I think that's a big question right. I wouldn't would you. I mean we run deep in the playoffs. You know if you win. I think you sit him until you have to plan but you know you really want that to be a game. Seven on the road and phoenix. I don't know i mean i. I've been covering each of the series and chris paul in this series since he hurt his shoulder has looked decent to not as good in the first half and then almost unplayable in the second half and tell game for and i don't know if it was because they were facing their own gut check. Oh my gosh. If we lose this down three one and he just he just found a way to get through it. But i don't you know we. We saw one good game with a shoulder i. I hope it holds up. I was hating watching the series with him clearly. Hobbled i wanna see both teams at full strength. But i don't know that we're gonna get that removed. Who needs to step on the lakers in a dis absence. I saw kuma bochum play at the rim. Where you're like come on who's what's going on. I saw Drummond go long being less effective than mark khazal. I have not seen schreuder play better than san average point guard. I mean he's had some good games like most point guards right. Who needs to step up in a dis absence. Okay you the first answer is lebron. 'cause we all know the brunt can like he's been good in this series but he can be great and and it's a question for him you know can if you do that for a game cool but can you do that for two games. Three games for whatever they need him to do here. He's thirty six years old. Macs like at some point. Like i don't you don't want to activate the playoff lebron until you absolutely have to. I think they kind of have to now but the real answer right now is a shooter. He's supposed to be the lakers their best players who wants to get paid a hundred million dollars. You want to be one hundred hundred nine. Actually i agree with this. I think even though you need a finisher at the rim and you're looking at drummond and kouzmin everything it's actually not as specific in terms of job description his dad. It's much more the best player on your team. That's lebron who is the second best player that's out. Who's the third best player on the team. That is supposed to be shrewder. He's got step. But i'm gonna read you. That in the lakers two wins in the series. Shooter has averaging twenty two points shooting. Fifty two percent from the field the lakers plus eleven in those minutes and their two losses. He's ever eleven points on forty percent. Shooting the lakers being minus eight in those minutes. That's that's terrible. You want to be one hundred million dollars point guard. He's turned down. Eighty four million dollars must be one hundred million dollars point guard. This is your time to shine man going into free agency. This is your time talking to ramona shelburne. Espn senior writer on the goodyear hotline. Max kellerman show espn radio. I see where mike trudell a reported case. Ep says he's feeling much better. The knee gets better every day in that of yesterday. He's questionable to play tonight. What is the latest as far as you understand it on kc p because they missed that corner shooting. They really do now he he is one of those guys. I think he's a little like adp in the sense that if he can play he's a little closer right. 'cause you already sat out a game. He's already already had that That injury and he sat okay for. I think he's a little closer. But you have that same call. You wanna put him out there and two two series or you wanna make sure he's really healthy in case you in case you go down here if you lose this game phoenix so you put him out there tonight and then they and you lose anyway. Now he's not at full strength for that game for that game. Six in la where you'd be down three two so it's a you know he's gonna he's gonna have to make that same call. I think the lakers training has been called a little different though in the sense and they gave superstar if you put him out there too soon and he andras grind and now he's out for four to six weeks. I mean you're not gonna win anything. So there's more of a risk there with casey. Ps injury is not the same kind of risk level with that type of his type of injury. Right it's more kenny. Played through it I you know. I think where they are right now. Is how you level of fear of the sun. i think they want to talking to their. I don't want to say. What ramon i go in game six if he has to but the of himself by game seven. I think the lakers still on this in seven games because what it comes down is a lot is on the line for chris. Paul and his legacy and there is some other line for lebron to. It's actually a very important. I alluded to this earlier in the show. I'm going to pay it off right now. It's a huge game in the history of lebron's career because who knows how many more bites at the apple he's going to get we can see a health is not reliable. We can see the lakers. Most of their resources are wrapped up in lebron. Ad maybe the potentially third best player in in t- tlc is what i call them. Just call them shooter guilty. Casey p casey not casey p taylor horton cuter t. The is several years away hda several years away from being his prime where he otherwise. I think he eventually be the third best player on the team. The point is he's chasing. Mj lebron he really needs this. This your chris. Paul can't keep getting knocked out early in the playoffs. So i think when it comes down to it they'll be a game seven and give me the lebron team but man. There's a lot at stake. Do you think given all the injuries on this lakers team. Forget about winning. The whole thing can naked out of the west motor. You know when i saw. it's amazing. How quickly things can turn. Because the way they looked in game. Three max i was like. Oh they're finding it. Lebron look started to look like he. I was seeing more than just the occasional flash here and they're like the most lebron. I have seen him look was actually in the play in game in the second. Half what he was going against steph curry and he knew he had to do it. You like activation playoff the brunt and then game three. That's second half when they were pumping the sun's right. So so chris. Paul comes out. Devon devon booker gets objected ahead. Jae crowder cat make a shot like you could just tell lebron was like oh we got some guys on the roads. What's going for the kill here. And i was like all the lakers five like they look so good right now. Phoenix was broken. Chris doesn't look like he can play with that shoulder. And then one game later literally one not even one one sanders anthony now. I'm wondering if they can even win the series. That's why you gotta get out of this series ramona. You've got who knows what's going to happen with the health of other teams. You gotta give yourself shot. You agree with me. Got to be the guy who steps up he wants one hundred million play like it. Right now ramona. They're telling me. I have to wrap up the segment. We have so much to do today. But it's always good to hear from you okay. So it's good to hear from you. i miss you. I wish you good luck with your next. I know this is a big big moment. You know. I it here in new york and other city must be like buzzing nervous. What what's the feeling is. Ramon i tell you a lot of people you know i. I miss the people in la and not living in any more. I know what you're not supposed to say is. It's the people that i really miss but the fact that matter is you find good people and bad people everywhere. I missed the weather on really what i missed. The sun was nice hanging out with my friends at seven ten. Espn but i would treat all of you for some sunshine. Non of consistent basis in new york city. I'm just being honest. it's not that. I don't love it i i let him you. I i'm from la. But i love new york. So i get you know. I won't tell you that it's eighty five and beautiful right now actually. It's nice today but all memorial day weekend pouring rain and freezing how come on. That's right cut acceptable. It's just the great ramona shelburne. Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you ramona on the goodyear hotline helping you discover the road ahead goodyear more driven june first very important day for the packers. I'll tell you why coming up friends if you're in a job you can't stand or worried that you're implanted benefits will be ending. You need to go to my computer career dot. Edu fill out the free career evaluation form. I've personally spoken with them. And apparently these guys are so legit that employers are lining up to hire their graduates and is true. I have spoken to them before i do. These kind of reads. 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Mvp anytime after today the charge will drop nearly in half so this is the moment. We've all been waiting for now. Aaron rodgers can be fine over ninety thousand dollars if he misses all three days of next week's mini mini camp and on keyshawn. Jay williams zubin. This morning. Here on espn radio. Dan graziano explained why he believes. Rogers is being ridiculous. I'll explain why dan is wrong. Coming up but i listened to dan. I think just being completely ridiculous like one of the things. There's so many layers to this that bother me but one of the things like the idea that oh it would have been better if they had told him they were gonna draft jordan love before they know he's doing they still would have picked. It's sort of in the same exact situation. They took his replacement. Look if he doesn't wanna play doesn't wanna play. They can get a lot of money back and they can move on to jordan love sooner than they planned to if he does wanna play. Where's it gonna go. That gives them a better chance to win the super bowl. I agree with dan that the packers give them like a top five. Maybe there's some teams give me even better chance right but tat packers. Give them a very good chance to win the super bowl. They're one of the teams immigrate chance but but they're not just going to move on to jordan love and say hey don't play you know why they're not going to let me explain this. Not that complicated. Max kellerman show. Espn radio let me explain. Why wide-angled democrats wrong. You're not going to cut off your nose to spite your face. Do you know how stupid you have to be to do that. Or the packers that stupid or they. Actually what are you gonna get for. Aaron rodgers and a trade. A minimum of what. I would say realistically you can get three firsts and stuff for aaron rodgers so you mean to tell me you'd rather move forward just with what you have and jordan love more than you'd like ford with three first and stuff and jordan of course. Not of course you're going to move forward with stuff you can get for aaron rodgers because you can't make aaron rodgers play for you. He can just say okay. See you later. Here's the money. I'm not gonna play for you and even if you wanna make him play for you okay. Well if you don't be can go through the motions. He can put up numbers but he's going to lead you in a full contact sport like football is he gonna lead your team to the promised. Land with one foot in one foot out with his without is all in no and the packers know this. So this is look. Ad wanted to get treated to the lakers. Okay all it took was people letting all the other teams know like the celtics. Remember that he's not going to resign with you. Okay so now. No one's gonna offer anything for a d. Except the lakers. And eventually it dawned on the pelicans. Oh we as the boss and our marching orders are trade him to the lakers. Like we have to do that or we get nothing for a deal to so. They traded him to the lakers. For t to figure this out in. Houston i have to trade james harden and i have to train them to the team. He instructs me to trade him to. I got to trade him to the nets he told me. And that's i have to do it because all it takes james harden to let the other teams no. I'm not interested in playing for you. And then suddenly they ain't going to give up that much for james harden and now the rockets deal gets worse. Get less for harden so no of course the packers aren't going to say you know what forget all the first round picks we could get for aaron rodgers of course of course they're not going to say you know what rogers we know. You don't wanna be here. We're asking you to lead our team to the super bowl anyway. That's not how it works in the. Nfl what will dawn on the packers. Sooner than later is that rogers is the one making the decisions here. Rogers is one hundred percent not ninety nine one hundred percent. He's going to make the decision. And if the packers wanted to stay. The packers quarterback their job is to change his mind. He is the boss he is in control. And the only way to get what you want is to change. The will of aaron rodgers otherwise hill. His will beat your will. Green bay packers. Nfl that's what they can't get their mind around galls them but he's he's labor we're the boss no he's the boss. Rogers is the boss. He will tell you how high to jump and when you can come down and that's the way it is you don't have to like it. James harden was the boss. Ad was the boss. Will you think it's coincidence. That i lakers lakers didn't have anything to try. He's on the lakers. Right now hardens on the nets right now just like he told the team and aaron rodgers will. He will either remain a packer if they can persuade him to remain a packer. But it won't be the packers making the decision. They are not the deciding ones. they're not choosing ones. They're the ones who have to appeal to aaron rodgers to change his mind. His mind will decide where he is and right now his mind is that he does not want to be a packer so he won't be and it's that simple. The ultimate fighter is back reality show that brings top enemy prospects together under one roof to compete for a ufc. Contract is on espn plus stream new episodes. Every tuesday. Only on espn plus. You can also stream. I show the max. Kellerman show along with hours of daily sports talk. Sign up now at espn plus dot com slash ufc. I'm going to colored there. We go matthew in texas. You're on the max. Kellerman show max time caller big huge fan huge crowds in your intelligence bar. None yes yes santa six. I'm twenty six years old. If far died introduced me to the packers and everything like that. Why do we keep shooting ourselves foot as an organization. Because you know you know. A quarterback is is your priority regardless of what team you are. What is it doesn't matter but the people and being a leader sabina leader as he hasn't had any quarterback should be but teen is gonna follow suit regardless. And are you want on the other side on. The offense is the leader in somebody to intimidate the defense with that. You can go a long way but with the situation. I've seen the packers. Do this time and time again. Players are not gonna run a condo anyway but not anymore they. It was hard. It was hard to get them over here regarding receivers showing up either right now by the way the receivers are showing solidarity with the quarterback. No of you're absolutely right. And the packers by the way are america's team the real answer to who's america's team or the packers. They play in the middle of the country. They're the team of lombardy. That's the cowboys. Fans are the the the the engineer and the producer of the show right. Exactly buzzer yourself. They play their the team of lombardy. It's lombardi trophy there. The original great team in the nfl and all men they represent probably the middle of the country. More than certainly the cowboys do and they've also had success in recent years. They've won a super bowl. And rogers they want super bowl in forbes career when a super bowls in part star's career better get this right with aaron rodgers. Cowboys fans undermining me. What else is new football fans. Should athletes have to speak to the media last week. Next do you own or rent your home. Sure you and. I bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geiko dot com. Which are you more willing to pay the commitment to prepare your workforce for the future or the cost of inaction. 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I went to went to one of the worst. You can always find both hours of it. Posted daily podcast available. Wherever you listen to podcasts. Yes ranch max. I wanted to know if you noticed a trend today was that did you notice a trend nine. Try and you don't hear this song playing for the fourth time today like you you you didn't make. Oh yes of june. I first of the month. Yeah related four times. Where do you how many times you do this be done this. Let me tell you a story about. Let me tell you. A story about my My grandparents okay. My bobbins eight. They were immature and they worked very hard right and they lived above a little tiny little coffee shop kind of place that they ran with like conditions and stuff in the south. Bronx going back to the you know the thirties and forties and like once in a while. My bubble was about five my grandmother. Who about five feet tall and weighed. Maybe ninety five pounds like lady would move out rearrange all the furniture in the living room. Big heavy chest of drawers chair here. Chair this she. She wanted to rearrange it. You know late. People have any money but they want to she wanted to freshen things up every now. And then my zeta. My grandfather would walk in the room and not say anything. He just wherever the chair was. He would sit down in that chair. She'd be like come on like how wouldn't even be curious. Like how did this woman get all the furniture and different places in this room. This little room roach infested rubai. How'd she do and he didn't caja sat down wherever the chair was where he sat down. That's like me. Roger brandon wherever the chair is i sit down to that. You're playing new music. It's jim i yeah okay all right to be to do something anyway and then i want him to acknowledged okay very good. It is the first of the month. July i i noticed i noticed. You know what guys you must have planned ahead. Hey you know what the first day of the month. And there's a song that actually they sing about the first day of the month. And we're gonna play until max notices all right very good. Now control. she she withdraws from the french open because she has certain responsibilities that she didn't feel up to and in her explanation for why she withdrew. I thought she made a very good point. I never wanted to be a distraction from the tournament. I accept that my time was not ideal. My message could have been clear. More importantly i would never want to trivialize mental health or use the term lightly. But she. she'd written that the best thing for the tournament. The other players in my well being is to withdraw because she was getting fine for not going to the post match press conferences or good for now mia soccer. You know when we talk about mental health. it's a should not be stigmatized. It's a great example. She said because she's universally admired not just for the way she plays but she handles herself at such a young age so maturely it seems to me and good people like nomi sokha who are publicly admired. It's good for them to be public about what they struggle with in terms of mental health to take the stigma away. I will say that mental health hard for people to self diagnose at times because like with a physical injury. You physically hurt. Wait am i just feeling pain or is this an injury. I shouldn't be messing with right. This preclude me from playing and it's even harder to tell. Your emotional state am feeling anxiety because this is an anxious moment lot at stake professionally or my am. I actually suffering from some kind of anxiety disorder difficult to determine different by the way. I'm sure event organizers are also thinking well if we make an exception for her people start using mental health issues or the excuse of mental health issues even when they're not really present to get out of media responsibilities because who wants to do the media. It's a pain in the butt and yet people are not just showing up to watch high and athletics right high end competition the we sell sports through storytelling who are the characters. What's at stake for them. What are the obstacles. Now people might say look with social media now. That may be changing. They don't need traditional media. And maybe that's right. Maybe it's not though maybe especially not for a niche sport. Maybe it's good for superstars like now asaka. But maybe in order to create more stars and to grow the kind of middle class of the sport traditional media is important. I don't know the answer to that. It's not wouldn't be the first time if changes were made as a result of this in terms of media responsibilities that the nature of media around sports has changed tapping in the past. But the upshot is i think everyone behaved appropriately given the circumstances. Look if you can't do your media obligations maybe it is best to withdraw from this tournament eight say. Espn seven to nine. Three seven seven six josh in new york. You're on the max kellerman show max. I got two quick points. So first of all i heard this morning on. I forgot what show was They were talking about how k. D. wins another chip. You can start putting them in the same conversation as the brown and and katie Michael jordan all. Those things first of all i give him no credit for any of the chips. He's one he's never carried a team on his own. I get it. He's talented but well. No one's ever carotene team to a championship on their own. They all need help. I but i understand what you mean. No has not proven in a way that jordan or lebron has but at a certain point you have to start saying given his package of skills and talent and size as a player that if he wins the championship with brooklyn even though once again. They'll be favored every series. Partly it's because he's on the court and and at certain point people will ask. Even though larry bird took a team from twenty wins to sixty wins in one season and was the alpha and the mvp the league three consecutive seasons as a package k. d. versus bird and he'll start to enter those conversations more. Seriously i think among more fans max kellerman show. Espn radio shangrila. Junior coming right up the max kellerman. Show the podcast. Do you own rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately gyco makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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Hour 1: Positive Changes

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Hour 1: Positive Changes

"If you're a business owner who's hiring you probably face a lot of challenges when it comes to finding the right person for your role. That's why hiring can feel like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You can post your job to some job board but then all you can do is hope. The right person comes along. Which is why you should try. Zip recruiter for free at ziprecruiter dot com slash max. When you post jobs on ziprecruiter it gets sent out to over one. Hundred top job sites with one click. Then ziprecruiter is matching technology finds with the right skills and experience for your job and actively invites them to apply. In fact ziprecruiter is so effective. That four out of five employers who post on ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. It's no wonder over two point. Three million businesses have come to ziprecruiter for their hiring needs so while other companies overwhelm you wait too. Many options ziprecruiter finds you. What you're looking for the needle in the haystack. And right now. You can try ziprecruiter for free at this web address ziprecruiter dot com slash max once again. Remember to go to this unique place. Ziprecruiter dot com slash m. a. x. ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire mexico until the podcast pm. Eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six. The max kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance guests. Join me on the goodyear hotline by the way. I'm just going to be telling you this throughout the show. Baseball doesn't rate anymore on a national level. It's totally local sport right. No one cares nationally but then will looking at jacob. Degrom the mets ace twelve starts a point. Five yara in twelve starts. More runs batted in than runs given up this like. It's historically i guess. Unparalleled through this point in the season is unbelievable. They checked the ball for sticky stuff. And he's laughing check it. I'm just. I'm just that gangster. All right i. It's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless kawhi leonard and chris paul both out for game two of clippers and suns now. The sun's one game one. Without chris there was no no chris. Paul the sons one game. One devon booker gave you a triple double with forty points and it wasn't like tennessee's ten boards either. I forgot i was like thirteen. and twelve. Something like that and a forty point. Triple double in a win. But if i'm the clippers provided by can come back. I'm feeling good about that tonight. Nine pm eastern the rematch. Right the the all the suns will have done if they win. Game two is defend court like the clippers going to have to win a game on the road eventually. But i think they're capable of doing that. The fact is without kawhi. They took the sons down to the wire in game. One and i suspect what that means is in fact the clippers. Better like devon booker. And chris paul vs code and paul george. That's close right. Given the way that devon booker plays in the playoffs versus the way. Paul george has historically however paul georgia's coming around as the lead dog. He's been coming around. And if that paul george can show up next to can come back healthy. The clippers got a lotta guys. Reggie jackson's balling rondo. Was playoff rondo morris. By the way terrence men tennis man can play. That's not fluky. He can play look. These playoffs have had uncertainty. Had kind of randomness injected into them by all the injuries and on the one hand it means the best team done win on the other hand means. They're harder predicted more interesting and here. We are clippers suns right along like you know chris. Paul's gonna come back not for game two. But he's going to be back is that will decide. The series is quite doesn't come back. Suns beat them easy or what however much they struggled to beat them. It ain't gonna go setting games. If kawais comes back the clippers can still take this thing could go down to. If it comes back they can still win the whole thing. How many times. It's tied lou have to do it twice in these playoffs alone. How 'bout in two thousand sixteen with the with the cavs vers against the seventy three. When warriors down three one came back. I made a comment on. I take today and boy. People are up in arms about it. Tyler coaching basketball. He's best coach in the nba. What do i mean by that. Like there's gregg popovich and erik spoelstra in some great coaches. But who's the guy that you would want for your franchise to be the head coach. So factor in age xs and os adjustments in playoff series relating to players. Making sure everyone gets along and stays together. Developing young players instilling confidence. Like the whole package as a head coach. Who's better than tie lou. Or don't think of it along those lines ask yourself. Who do you want coaching your team. And that'll give you the answer. Me tie lou. I've seen enough now. I seen enough. This is not like to have coached. Lebron he consistently even in the last series. You the clippers fall down ought to and you think i'm thinking what you've got gotta really you gotta give playoff rondo burn. He didn't really that much. What he did was say. No going small ball playing on playing you know morrison batumi with these guys and it worked. Look at how he adjusts in the playoffs. Look at his understanding. What does just in the playoffs really mean is are analyzing closely the xs and os in the match ups. And you're deciding on the fly how to counter. What the other coaches doing. It's a chess game. He's the best chess player. Certainly one of them then factor in all the other stuff you know. He's not old as popovich right. Spoelstra has got a case. There are a couple of guys with case. Put my from my team. I want to do you like the shorthand to clippers. Short handed sons eight eight say. Espn seven to nine. Three seven seven six. I felt sorry for stephen a. Who has always been praying for a lakers heat finals so he could go between l. A. and miami first of all direct flights second of all what to better destinations miami is. Miami is new york on the beach in terms of the composition of certain groups. It's new york on the beach. Cited stephen smith and he always wanted to do that and of course they finally get the miami l. a. The lakers final series. And it's in a bubble and now he is likely we are like. There's a good chance. This is milwaukee and phoenix where those segments. Those flights are convenient. are they milwaukee and phoenix. I suppose if you want to enjoy yourself out on the town after hours it could have been worse. It could've been utah. In milwaukee i suppose meantime england be philly and the reason. It's not going to be. Philly is because ben simmons. My god what happened like. That's you know. The ben simmons thing has traction people are still talking about it. Phillies a major metropolitan area off. You call it cosmopolitan but it's metropolit- you know. It's a little bit of a suburb of new york. I hate to tell you but it's it's you know it is like the fourth lar fourth fourth or fifth largest market the new york l. as chicago. i think houston and then philly fifth largest market in the country and but it's not exactly glamorous it fall short of that and it's not warm weather city and it's not a no state income tax state right so so it is not an undesirable places to play for athletes for basketball players. But it's usually not the first one on their list so it's surprising because the sixers are kind of a quasi national when they're good to me. It surprises me. How much traction this. Ben simmons story has people still interested in it. They were eliminated several days ago but the way he melted down with so tarrant to everyone. Now doc rivers who. I thought also melted down by the way doc rivers couple days ago was asked. Can ben simmons be the point guard on a championship team. He said i don't know that's fair. You don't know if he can do it. You don't know if doc can be the coach of a championship team. Yes you do because you won a championship longtime ago with the big three in the absence of any other big three in leaky won one championship. Kenney still recent evidence has no it doesn't mean he can't doesn't mean ben simmons can but remember he just been on record saying he doesn't know about ben simmons. We'll see now. What about ben simmons. You had a day or two to reflect on it doc. What about spend simmons. Now what do you do with. Ben simmons and positive then i'm very bullish didn't still And but there's you know mark there are there is will be willing to do it. and that's the game you know. Sometimes you have to go through stuff to see it and be honest with. There's areas that he can fix quickly in my opinion or get better in. That will take him to another level. I look at this as a great challenge but definitely doable more. I don't think the average person understand how hard it is to win You know it's like you guys didn't win it again. Well neither the twenty nine other teams having said that. I believe we can and i do believe we can. The pain has to drive you. But we'll the win has to drive even more doc. You know the. It's hard to win but actually it's also hard to lose when you're up three one consistently docs managed to do it. And i love doc rivers. But let's be honest. Meantime doc also said. He's bullish on ben simmons. If i were doc. I'd be calling bullish on ben simmons. I'm calling bullish. On doc rivers for saying he's bullish on ben simmons bullish get it. Roj max kellerman show espn radio. That was straight talk wireless. No contract no compromise eight eight say. Espn seven to nine three seven seven six. I gotta get to the ncaa and which has happened in the ncaa. The crawl nassib and and his Coming out i openly player in the nfl. by the way i'm going to sprinkle in. I really talk much about the grammar. I don't want people clicking off the radio right but at a nationally. People don't care about baseball anymore. It's a better world when they do. But i'd recognize the reality but you have to baseball gets talked about. His boxing. Wants did once. You're marginalized from the mainstream. If there's a scandal you talk about it during the world series you talk about it. I'm just letting people know you got to check out. Jacob degrom this dude. This do doing stuff. That's never been done before right. Want to get to the goodyear hotline. Ed o'bannon former bruin filed o'bannon versus the. Ncaa started this whole ball rolling editor. You there yes. I am how you doing. Welcome to the show. Glad to have you on today now originally to lower courts in california kind of restricted in some ways. The ncaa's power. I'm giving like the cliff notes. And the ncaa thought not good enough. You know we don't need to stand for this. We'll appeal it to the supreme court and in so doing they got shot down like they would have been better off not appealing it first. Let's start with this. Tell me what the what you felt when the ncaa decided to appeal the lower court's ruling to the supreme court. I thought that it was good that they did it. for For our side for the athlete's side Simply because i know me personally. I wanted Our side of this story to be told to the highest court And that is obviously the supreme court so That was i know when i was heavily involved during our case we wanted to go to supreme court simply because we wanted everything etched in stone And we wanted You know the highest courts to hear what we had to say. So i thought it was. I thought it was great. And refresh refresh people ed o'bannon hanging out one day and notices. Wait a minute someone points it out to you. Hey that's your likeness video game. You must have gotten paid and you're like what that's my number. That's my high. That looks like me got shaved head in got the ball head and everything but they're not calling it at o'bannon and i'm not getting paid off of it so you sued the ncaa correct. That is correct Initially it was Ea sports but it eventually turned into a lawsuit against two. That is absolutely correct. So so basically what. The supreme court said was not only do not only. Ncaa does the lower court ruling or do the lower court rulings stand. But in fact they. And i'm sure they they. They appealed this decision because they felt while the supreme court very conservative. Now after all the seats it's and so now conservatives like the status quo support as opposed to looking forward right. So here we go. We got him now. And in fact the supreme court to their credit decided unanimously. That the ncaa cannot enforce rules. Limiting education related benefits to colleges offered a student athletes. So originally ed. Apparently it's like hey you can have a computer and the ncaa didn't like the fact that oh wait a minute. The courts are saying now they can have a computer. They can have some postgraduate scholarship money. We don't like that and now looks like the flood gates are open. Yes absolutely and and you know it. It starts small their little things. Little victories along along the way that you that you get you know and now that The supreme court has rendered their verdict Yeah absolutely the floodgates are open And and The athletes will be compensated Not necessarily And it was never really about money but just Stop being exploited And and you know that's really kind of the the biggest thing So now the athletes are able to You know Use their name image and likeness For for lack of you know A better term. And we're we're happy. We're happy things are going in this direction. You even kavanagh who's very controversial. When he was confirmed on the supreme court will the opinion. He's like no. This is like basically what the ncaa was asking for his exemption from antitrust for for all intents and purposes say don't apply antitrust laws to us and antitrust laws. Those who are interested. It's when a bunch of powerful companies will get together and price-fixing. They'll say they'll say You know we were conspiring to fix prices. And that's essentially what the ncaa did cavanaugh. Said look just because you're saying that our business model is based on not paying. The labor does not mean that you get to not pay the labor ed o'bannon a former bruin who filed o'bannon versus the ncaa years ago when he noticed his likeness in ea sports video game. It was obviously him everything about him except his name started all this years ago. Why do you feel like others weren't brave enough to take on the ncaa at that time as you did. Well i think Whereas as athletes and and high school and college athletes in particular We're talking to You know be grateful for what you have Even though you earned a scholarship The scholarship is almost kind of Given to you that's the sense that you get And so you know if you if you if you if you go against the system and you say something You might you might endanger your your scholarship opportunity or at least get benched or For you know any you know The the public might not like you Their various reasons why Don't speak up What i do know. Is we talk to each other. So asked -letes feel this way is just a matter of speaking up You know you're afraid that the system will come down on you or or your scholarship. It'd be taken away. So that's normally why athletes don't speak up but Most of them feel at least a lot of them. That i know of feel the same way that i felt during that time. Even listening to the language. That us talking to ed o'bannon former bruin sued the ncaa for sports and the ncaa for using his likeness video game and of course he was not compensated even like now language us. It's not about the money. Why isn't it about the money. So multibillion dollar industry and i can profit off of it. Which by the way i do just by talking about it right college ball but i but i profit on the property or fit right now but everyone but the athletes can can profit of it. Why do you think there's still a culture where somehow the athletes have to be modest and almost ashamed and apologize not about the money. Why isn't it about them. Isn't this actually about the money you said. It's about exploitation but exploitation. What labor without compensation yes now it ultimately is about the money for sure I know i didn't get into this for the money And that's really kind. Of what i what i was saying. me personally. It wasn't about getting paid for what i do know is. Athletes deserve money. The athletes deserve a lot more than what they get. So yes absolutely. It's about the money But my personal involvement. And i said lost who wasn't about getting paid. That's that's really kind of what. I'm according to the espn article on this on. Espn dot com. Dan murphy had posted it cavanaugh. Who publish a concurring opinion said. He published the opinions concurring opinion They voted unanimously. So cabinet said yes. I agree with this. And this is what i have to say about. It suggested that the ncaa's rules now. I'm going to quote that restrict of espn article that restrict any type of compensation including direct payment. Athletic accomplishments. Might no longer hold up. Well in future antitrust challeges cavenaugh quote. Now the ncaa is not above the law. Supreme court justice. Breyer cavanaugh. The ncaa couches its arguments for not paying student athletes and innocuous labels but the labels cannot disguise the reality the ncaa's business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in america now. Did the players finally win. Is there more to do. What more is there to do in your opinion. Es the i think this was a huge victory if you will for the for the players for the athletes I don't think the athletes part or portion of this fight is done There is absolutely more to do women's rights. I think the ladies Oh my god yeah. Yeah you know what i'm saying. Yes there's There's a lot more to do I think the ladies Their voices need to be heard a little bit more and so Yes there's there's more to do My portion of it is done. But i do know that A lot lot more people in line to carry the torch and take it A lot further. Been where it is now. I mean the ncaa. Also it just seems to me. It was so intent on completely controlling the players like it was about control more than anything they felt like. If they lost any level of control the whole system would come tumbling down when you dropped thirty points and grabbed seventeen boards to win the championship in nineteen ninety five. What was your compensation at that time. I'm just curious nothing. Nothing nothing nothing no at all and at that time did it when you know you're super famous person. You're a celebrity. you're you're not. What was that like to live at that level but not have the financial resources that other people have It was it was pretty It was it was hard. i guess but it was something that you are used to You know i it was. It was par for the course I'll i'll be honest at the time. I i didn't really two things. One didn't really or anything as far as compensation because that's just the way the system is run and then to I was internet draft After that season anyway so Soon as soon as my season ended soon after that game it was on to the next level for me so But i do know my teammates. My brother and his teammates. Because i play with my brother. Charles at the time They didn't have anything you know not compensated as big celebrities. I guess as i was in. La which is a big deal as you know and so But they didn't they didn't get paid at all so it was. It was hard for them for me. It was a little bit different. Because again i went to the nba. Right after that but For them it was. It was hard and abandoned very or yup. Thank you very much for coming on. I think you started this ball rolling and it has rolled in the more the. Ncaa has fought it. I mean their strategy seemed to be eventually gonna come tumbling down anyway. Let's just fight to keep it going as long as we can. Which is frankly a stupid stupid idea. But okay You know they've made a lot of stupid decisions. Thank you very much for coming on and and appreciate your journey and the fact that You came on the show today cranking maxwell appreciate thanks. Max kellerman show. Espn radio espn. Plus rajasa zoom just went down. that's convenient. that's a convenient time for it to go down. That's okay that's where he just whacks loquacious like a for a second here tonight. I will wax. I will tell them you tell them what you're showing in your coming you know live from above the heineken river dam. That's seven teen as a kid. Say yes go ahead. Yes yes and then and you're gonna tease them. You have to call it. Talk about karl now seib yes. That's an important subject and coming up. I will get into the first openly gay player in the history of the nfl. What that means here on the max kellerman show. Espn radio jj see. 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Sure you can post your job to some job board but then all you can do is hope. The right person comes along. Which is why you should try. Ziprecruiter for free at ziprecruiter dot com slash. Max when you post a job on ziprecruiter get sent to over one hundred. Top job sites with one click then ziprecruiter matching technology finds people with the right skills and experience for your job and invite them to apply. in fact. ziprecruiter is so effective that four to five employers. Who post on ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. It's no wonder over two point. Three million businesses have come to ziprecruiter for their hiring needs. So while other companies overwhelm you with way too. Many options ziprecruiter finds you. What you're looking for the needle in the haystack. And right now. You can try ziprecruiter for free at this web address ziprecruiter dot com slash max once again. Remember to go to this unique place. Ziprecruiter dot com slash m. a. x. ziprecruiter. The smartest way to hire the max kellerman. Show the podcast. The max kellerman show presented by progressive insurance eight seven to nine three seven seven. Six max kellerman show. Espn radio and espn plus sirius. Xm channel eighty wherever. You get your podcasts. Oh it's everywhere. I called carl. Nasa carlina seib last segment of insane curl nasa all day for stake in preparing for this show but raj decided to write it as n. a. s. ab immediately. Some so aware of these things realize it's not in a sad it's with an eye and then said in a seib so thanks for that raj at any rate curl. Nassib is the first active. Nfl player to come out as gay the twenty eight year old defensive end made the announcement on instagram where he clearly pronounced his name. Carl nassib he also pledged one hundred thousand dollars to the trevor project which provides crisis intervention and suicide prevention services to the l. g. t. q. Community now molly mentioned it on for a steak today. Something like lgbtq pins or something like five times as likely to be contemplating suicide and it's terrible but the reason this was interesting to me other than the first nfl player to be openly gay by the way if you look at the percentage of gay people in the population thing like five percent of the population in the country of three hundred million people millions and millions and millions of people and that means that there are many gay players in the nfl and the fact that this is the first one to ever feel comfortable enough to say. Hey i'm gay by the way is it's really like about this for a second. Jackie robinson broke the color line in the in major league baseball in nineteen forty seven. That doesn't mean. Racism is now over. Jackie rob playing baseball. It doesn't mean the league is now integrated. it wasn't integrated one black dude playing baseball major league level. It's not integration but certainly not fully integrated but that was an enormous moment in our cultural history in our country's cultural history not just in sports because a member of large and oppressed group finally got to the highest level of their profession which is a very highly public profession major league baseball and it indicated progress in the sense that it is not impossible though there were still greater barriers for black players in white players. It wasn't impossible. It could happen and that kind of symbolism is important. Really what you're doing when you change. The world is changing people's minds you know their heart's call it what you will. But the way they feel and think about things and that was an important moment obviously in nineteen forty seven. It's almost three quarters of a century later. Three quarters of a century. Later when another i mean there have been other large oppressed groups who have broken barriers in professional sports at the highest level. But here's a large oppressed group. Gave people and for the first time. Seventy five years after jackie robinson breaks to color barrier for the first time of seventy four years. Whatever about three quarters of a century. I just want straight people to think for a second what that means. Gay people must feel in terms of their revealing that part of themselves publicly. What they must feel the fear the bigotry. They must experience. And it's one thing to experience bigotry. But when the when the power dynamic is out of whack in other words people can think whatever they want about you right but when they have the and we're seeing on espn plus shawne merriman and warren moon giving words of encouragement. And and congratulations to carl nasa for coming out as gay i active. Nfl player to do so ever but think about think about the the the bigotry and the fear that the power that the biggest yield wheeled. And how that could affect their lives. That gay people must have felt and still feel one so far. The first one comes out publicly. Three quarters of a century. After jackie robinson broke the color barrier got a lot of work to do still but it is always on days like this on the one hand. You say great. This is great and you celebrate it and on the other hand you say how jacked up assist world that it comes to this that this late in the game. Finally someone feels comfortable and by the way that's not gay people now suddenly being brave. That's the rest of us. Creating a climate where gay people feel comfortable that that biggest field the kind power that can completely destroy their lives still a lot of work to do. Here's crawl nassib people. I'm carl massive here in west chester pennsylvania. It's want to take a quick moment to say that i'm gay. I've been meaning to do this for a while. Now but i finally feel comfortable enough to get it off my chest I really have the best life. I got the best family friends and job a guy could ask for I'm pretty private person. So hope you guys know that i'm really not doing this for retention I just think that representation visibility are so important Actually hope that like one day videos this and the whole coming out process or just not necessary But until then you know. I'm going to do my best and do my part to cultivate a culture. That's accepting that's compassionate and i'm going to start by donating one hundred thousand dollars to the trevor project. They're an incredible organization. They're the number one suicide prevention service for lgbtq youth in america and they're truly doing incredible things. And i'm very excited to be a part of it. Help in any way that i can and i'm really policy with the future holds by the way i really liked the way he did that. It was kind of understated. It's like look your matter of factly here. It is nice little background trees and stuff. He's like i'm gay. And this is what it is. And by the way robert clem coz writer for the washington post tweeted the following in two thousand thirteen. I asked an nfl coordinator on background. If he thought the league would ever accept an openly. Gay player is only eight years ago. He said no quote because nobody wants to shower with a expletive slur for gay people. Here's here's to carl. Nasa courage and that coach being out of a job so still a lot of work to do. But it's some of. It's getting done. The max kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance right. You've a lot of questions. And i'm going to get to your calls and asks max coming up. The football off seasons always wild with all the trades free agent. Signings a new. Coaching hires teams have to be excited for the coming season. 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What happened amax anytime you take a vacation or something running on know how to act when the substitutes end so yeah as august. You know the rock. I love zeppelin listen. I was fifteen years old at a friend's house and they put zeppelin on head a little get together. You know little almost like a party not quite get together. They used to call and they put zeppelin. I'm like what is this. I don't know anything about classic rock. But i heard zeppelin. I was like okay. I can get down with this. That's to me. That's the best classic rock. There is so i got no beef with blink zeppelin on this show any time. Then the rest of it has displayed. What happened yeah. All right all right. Let's hit the open axe. Max what are we got mickey in south carolina. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio how're you doing. Just establish the ground rules here. We're we're gonna not sacrifice mickey yet. We're going to say this. It's not a social call to radio show. I'm doing fine. You wanna tell me you love me or hate me. Wanna give an opinion. that's fine. You could start out that way first time longtime all that kind of stuff but i want you to either ask a question you get to your opinion right away so mickey. Let's try that again. Mickey and south carolina. You're on the max keller joe. Spn radio espn. Networks are crushing philadelphia as a make margaret city up. It is in the top four of television available. You guys talking about that. Relative to ben simmons and how the trade is going to happen if that happens whatever no. It's just in my opinion. Just kind of bullshit okay. Will you can't curse on the air. But let me let me ask you something you're saying that philadelphia's a big market rafic it's five i think houston's four and phillies five i could be wrong. It'd be five and four. But what is the issue that you have that you feel. Bs that phillies a big market and the media saying that he should they. They should trade ben simmons. That's your beef. it's just. It's just about talking down about city city. It's a very strong sports city. Who's talking down about philly. In fact what i've been saying is philly fans have a deserved and earned reputation for being ruthless. However they will support their own to appoint marquel folks. I keep using this example. They cheer him hitting a free throw. They spent the number one pick on him. They wanted him to succeed. They've been doing the same thing. With ben simmons and my point about having to trade simmons now is the philly fans have had it with this point like they've supported him. They've done all they could. He was not apparently reportedly willing to put in the work that it requires to be truly great. I think philly's done with him. It's not philly. Slander solomon in los angeles. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio yeah. Max daryl morey is living in the twilight zone. This guy is actually scratching his head as why all the negativity about philadelphia team you. I'm sorry man first of all you've got a coach that could make an in game adjustments or a series adjustment if his life depended on it. You got a point guard. that can't shoot. You got punked punked by a young atlanta team. Not once not twice three times and you lose a game seven on your home. I agree and daryl. Morey is an excellent solvent. Daryl daryl morey is an excellent gm but can he be a great gm right. He's inherited this team. He had very little time in the off season to make changes. He did some very good things. They had danny green. They probably win the series in spite of what you just said about doctors which i agree with but they were really missing danny green. He brings in danny green. He brings in south korea. Got white howard on the cheap and all that stuff. You gotta give daryl morey a year or two to make this roster into the thing he wants and at this moment he can't be talking down. Ben simmons who's already done enough to hurt his own trade value. You gotta pump simmons up as much as possible so you get something decent forum but mark my words. Simmons is out of their richard in manhattan. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio. i have no idea what she was going to say. Everyone but i do know this. It'll have to do with stuff from decades and decades ago and it will be interesting and something. No one else has said go ahead. Richard act been watching. Nba basketball for fifty seven years if phoenix place atlanta in the finals. I have never seen two more unlikely teams in the nba finals. What do you think well a now going over it Certainly dallas and miami wasn't that i'm thinking of all the non restore cheese. Tony was expected. San antonio is expected detroit when they had isaiah and everybody was expected in any way they were playing. La stay right right. you're right. I'm trying to think of his ever been not not in my lifetime. I agree see richard decades ago and no one else to saying and it's interesting. Go ahead richard. Max one more thing. Yeah nobody is giving this guy credit. And he's upstairs where he can't speak for himself anymore. Yeah you gotta banyan on. But you didn't get the mess. That the mr all for college athletes the spokesman for college athletics getting paid. He used to say he had a famous statement. That said i want to transfer college players on my team because the current paid for already talking. If i don't always end. John havlicek wanted all these kitchen school. Max kellerman is being radio maximum kellerman. Show the podcast. This is rewards and check out my podcast. 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Hour 1: Max's Top Ten Players In The NBA

The Stephen A. Smith Show

41:45 min | 4 months ago

Hour 1: Max's Top Ten Players In The NBA

"If you're a business owner who's hiring you probably face a lot of challenges when it comes to finding the right person for your role. That's why hiring can like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Sure you can post your job to some job board but then all you can do is hope. The right person comes along. Which is why you should try. Zip recruiter for free at ziprecruiter dot com slash max. When you post jobs on ziprecruiter it gets sent out to over one. Hundred top job sites with one click. Then ziprecruiter is matching technology finds with the right skills and experience for your job and actively invites them to apply. In fact ziprecruiter is so effective. That four out of five employers who post on ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. It's no wonder over two point. Three million businesses have come to ziprecruiter for their hiring needs so while other companies overwhelm you wait too. Many options ziprecruiter finds you. What you're looking for the needle in the haystack. And right now. You can try ziprecruiter for free at this web address ziprecruiter dot com slash max once again. Remember to go to this unique place. Ziprecruiter dot com slash m. a. x. ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire a max. Keller men show podcast eighty eight say. Espn eight eight eight seven to nine. Three seven seven six. Is the max kellerman. Show as i mentioned coming to you live from above the heineken river decade pier seventeen open for three foot tobacco for ice tray every single person that came in. They all feed off the confidence. Trae young place with and you saw that here tonight and game on the on the lead. The group read believed in each other. Anything can happen. This will go down as the year that the next wave of superstars took over the nba. Now lebron's crown is no longer undisputed champ or at least a chance but maybe not champ. Is kevin durant or better than the brand right now. We don't know because lebron got hurt and it wasn't as himself and then couldn't play so they couldn't advance and then k d's crime partners both hard and kyrie were mean heart and played the last two games. but that wasn't james harden and kyrie was out so we don't know we saw luka. Make a statement as luca as good as anybody right now at least on the offense. What about kuwa- but he's not available because of the knee but when he is look what he did in the playoffs. I'm naming guys now. Look for himself. A unanimous if not consent consensus not unanimous. Top ten player but lebron k. D. kawhi james harden jaanus top ten players off them. Probably tough steph right there six. Ad is seven. Who else is in the top ten or all of those guys still in it really all of them and bead yokich raining. Mvp and the guy would've been mvp wasn't hurt. Don't they both kind of have to be in the top ten at leave one slot because trae young donovan. Mitchell devon booker are superstars and and they've arrived there they're they've announced their arrival in the constellation of mba. Stars as real superstars. Guys like paul. George not in the top ten anymore. You can't even make the argument anymore. Russell westbrook is he a top ten player. Bradley beal with these guys in the league right now. I don't think you can say they are without chris. Paul's a top ten player. I don't think you can say he is the to these young dudes. Do you understand trae young. Who owes a lot of his game to steph curry and get to that in a second trae young dropped forty eight eleven and seven in his first western conference finals game in a win on the road against the favorite team. Forty eight eleven and seven. Now look i bring this comparison up one hundred years ago. There's a guy named babe ruth the greatest baseball player ever and people talk about like the dead ball era and the juice the baseball's in in baseball and roger. They can hear you on on the on the zoom but not on the radio. Why don't you mute zoom in on the radio and then we got okay. The point is everyone that it was the equipment to change in fact bill james. Godfather of metrics has made the point. Roj please mute yourself. At anytime i have to say it. It's very annoying. Thank you enough. Stifle the people that bill. James about bieb ruth that he had the imagination who's really an act of imagination to realize. I can swing for the fences when no one else was doing it. And then along came guys like gehrig and jimmie foxx. We're just imitated ruth and even though they weren't as good they approximated what he did that steph curry he changed the nba. I can shoot from all the way out there and trae young imitated it in a way. But it's not just the soda damian. Lillard it's not just that he can shoot from there. He's got great handles right and he's not afraid to get into traffic and do crazy things with his handles to get to the spot he needs and trae young is like that too but neither one of those dudes kyrie irving right. Kyrie irving his handles heating or precise nothing happens by accident. Sometimes you can tell with steph. He's seeing if he can get away with something and there's a lot of time he can. Sometimes he can't and so like trae. Young does the same sort of stuff s steph. He owes his game to steph in a lotta ways. There's a lot of modern smaller point guards. Do i mentioned damian lillard. But the differences steph gets careless in the biggest moments. He's careless. I was at oracle for game seven against the cavs. Four minutes and twenty two seconds left in game seven to go down as the greatest team in history steps. Turn the ball over with like a crazy behind the back. Pat like what's he doing. His team scored zero points in the last four twenty two they went home. Biggest biggest comeback ever by the cavs. Good argues the biggest. The most important basketball game in the modern nba ever played. You went away completely now. And i love steph. Just got to tell you the truth and what happened. This year with steph win or go home. Oh he played out of his mind. This and that is. He's playing playing game. He's playing the ninth best team in the in the in the conference and it came down to overtime which means they're evenly matched well. They're only evenly matched because steps greatness. Fine but now we need your greatness at the end of the game. Last three thirty of overtime. No points no assists maybe had a rebound or maybe i want us no about it was like he's not even on the floor and they went home hard to imagine trae young being in that situation isn't steph. Curry is played in five conference finals. Twenty-seven conference finals games now many times. He scored forty eight points in one of those games. Zero trae young has played in one conference finals game. Forty eight points forty eight. Eleven and seven steph is played in five finals. He has never been the best player on the floor in any of those finals. First time. Two thousand fifteen. Lebron james is so much better than him. It was embarrassing. They gave the mvp igwe dollars. Kyri and kevin love got hurt. And that's the only reason that the warriors won and everyone knew it right. I mean lebron took that team game six with della vedova as a second best flyer okay. Obviously we can't give it to steph. They gave it to the due to guard. Lebron iggy then the next year. Two thousand sixteen lebron steph steph at a seventy-three when team and by the way had the warriors won the. Mvp was gonna go to draymond green not steph but the cavs one so lebron was the mvp. But it wouldn't have been steph anyway then the next two times they were in it. They want it k. D. was the best player on his team. Hold on guys. You're talking to me. But i've things to say. Just everyone quiet have lot of producers in my ear right now i'm talking about the nba. The point is that in those finals. Steph curry was not the best player on his own team and he was not the second best player in the series k. D. and lebron were the best players in the series and then in the last finals. He in co. I got finals. Mvp he won the best player in that series either. Can you trae young's pleading one western conference finals games game against the two time. Mvp and yada. He was the best player on the floor. Eight say espn eight. Eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six. Here's trae young after the game. I mean the leaders. We all all leaders. We really believe in each other and leaders team for nate down We all believe in. You have a group that really believed in each other really spying on corp each other Anything can happen. And i think our team really believe that and has been working meantime jaanus. How many times have i told you that jaanus needs a crime partner before you even get to that. I'm here to tell you that trae young ceiling is higher than steffes. No he's never going to be great a player on an everyday basis as steph curry steps to greatest shooter ever. That's not trae young but who cares about the regular season in the nba practically doesn't count. Nba reglazing practice. I love watching it. But it practically doesn't count. The stakes are almost zero because now there are thirty teams in the league. Twenty of them are playing after the regular season. Twenty of them. The only thing that matters like if you're an mvp caliber player your team's going to be in the plane. At least you don't care if there's no one else on your team you'll be in the play in. At least the only thing that matters the postseason and look at what trae young is doing in his first. One versus how steph is performed as the stakes have gone up now. Am i right about that and my wrong about that. Eight seven seven. Say sorry eight say. Espn eight seven was the old espn la number. Eight say espn. That's seven to nine. Three seven seven six now jaanus. I've told you time and time again. He needs a crime partner. Why did they lose that game on the other side of the ledger. There's trae young going off on the milwaukee bucks side. Where was chris middleton. He was over nine from three now. I thought the bucks would win this series because without another team with multiple superstars jaanus and trey are the two superstars. And then who's the third best player in the series. Oh he's on janas team. Only reason got the bucks got past the nets because the nets didn't have career harden so the third best player in the series was on the box it was middleton and the fourth best player in the series on the bucks it was holiday but if the other team has real all stars then those guys are not that anymore. And why aren't they that. They're good players. Middleton and holiday are sometimes great usually good but kyrie and harden are usually great and sometimes good and rarely less than that right that's why the perennial all stars and chris. Middleton's made to and holidays made one team because they're consistently better and the issue. I figured the bucks are gonna win now. Middleton can really shine. There's no opposing forced by like a lot. They have some good pieces but middleton should be the third best player in the series now last night so holiday steps up middleton goes away middleton steps up. he goes away. I'm so sick and tired of people from milwaukee telling me that the bucks have a big three. They clearly do not. They don't have that and you need help. If you're a big your honest after the game on the mindset after the loss you'll you'll lose down. But i said you can get too high can get gotta come out game to compete and And wish for the best. No but it doesn't get easier doesn't matter if you're down to all those different series now that doesn't mean you might get Might be one one not to get back my vehicle different case so never gets easy Baby found your job. Gotta be if janas gets help. The bucks can win the championship. This season this season they can but it would require middleton and holiday playing above their heads. It's not like playing better than they've ever played. But playing more consistently and on top level than they've ever played as opposed to phoenix. Who with the rise of deondraye aiden and the return of chris. Paul have a legit big three laker fans. I want to get into that. Because this is the biggest game in the history of the clippers franchise. And i wanna know temperature on it. I let me say that. not only. Was it time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless raj but that was straight talk wireless no contract no compromise. What do you think about that. So lakers fans let me just sprinkle this in here because actually want to get to something steve. Kerr said but food for thought. The clippers are playing the biggest game in their franchise's history. They are playing up against it because otherwise plan and even though they lost to close games to the sons that suggests on a neutral site. They're probably the better team let alone at home. They should be the better team. That was the sons without chris. Paul and chris paul. Former clipper is returning to the scene of the crime. Right back to the clips. The business and he's returning thirsty for a championship. Injury has decided. These playoffs every series. So far injury decided you think the bucks would be here if k. d. had james harden kyrie irving just with kyrie irving the humiliated the bucks back to back games. They were going to have to use the mercy rule. Then kyrie got hurt new series and hardened could came back did what he could. He wasn't really hardened that decided. Why the lakers aren't playing 'cause couldn't play and then lebron was hobbled that's why they're not playing no why. The sons made quick work of denver. Because no jamal murray. You know why the clippers were able to get by utah. No mike conley. You know why. The sons have this. Huge advantage on the clippers. No hawaii leonard. But going into the season i liked the sun's lot but notice deondraye eaton's a little green not only. Has he arrived. So they have. Chris paul devon booker deondraye eight and legit big three unlike the bucks say in the east. But they're playing in a year where anything can happen. Because they don't have to play a healthy lebron and a d. because they don't have to play a healthy yokich with healthy jamal murray and by the way even even porter jr. had his back was jacked up for that series right. They don't have to play a healthy denver team because they don't have to play a healthy clippers team right now. Chris paul's never been to the finals. One of the all time greats never been to the finals had to sit on the sidelines. Those two thrilling home victories. Right thirsty is can be a championship. Don't forget the last time. He faced a game seven. Oh they get to the finals over the greatest team ever warriors. He was her couldn't play and they lost. You will never find more motivated player than chris. Paul for this game. Because if they can get by the clippers they have a hell of a shot to win the championship this year. What about next year. Ad and lebron back. What about when klay thompson gets back. Whatever move the warriors make. They're going to be better like you. Look around the league. This might be even though like devon booker and andrea. agenor young. that chris polling young. This may be his best chance. So that's how prepared he's going to be and don't forget a first ballot hall of famer is coming off the greatest theories off his career and yet. This is the clippers biggest game ever. They've never been to a finals. And if they lose game three they ain't gonna get there. This year lakers fans feel a little. Sorry for the clippers. Or you just laughing at clippers nation right now. I don't know if it's a nation so much as it's a it's a city state or maybe a town clippers town you laughing clippers town eight say. Espn i want to get to this before. I get to your calls and got a lot to do today still did you hear what steve kerr said on kevin durant and his gifts. Listen to steve. Kerr talk about k. d. He's the most talented basketball player on earth. If not of all time honestly He's just so gifted he played with michael jordan. And and and i know i think he's more gifted i really do. I mean at saying something. But kevin is a different entirely different breed. I mean six eleven with guard skills unlimited three point range. It's just stunning and watching him. This year was really really ratifying. That was courtesy. Nbc sports bay area. He's not wrong. Steve kerr kevin durant is the most gifted say the most talented. It's probably jordan or else. Lebron because height size is not a talent but it is a gift k. d. is the most gifted no one at his size has ever been able to do the things that he can do he. That package of gifts is unparalleled now. I don't wanna take credit away from k. D. gifts and even talent are different than skill. You have to hone skill and that's work and he's also done that. He's also the most skillful big guy or tall guy in the history of basketball but he is the most gifted now. Just like i say with kyrie irving who may be the most skillful player ever. Well he's the most skillful wise hardened better than him because he is hardens. Better than kyrie kyrie has better handles. Correct kyrie shoots better carries a great passer better finisher better free throw shooter better. Mid range shooter. So why is it. That harden is better than kyrie really runs the pick and roll much better. Harden has better greater wisdom in terms of the game of basketball than kyrie. He understands when to deploy his skills. And how is a whole toolbox knows which tool to bring out in which for which occasion right that makes him better. That's why hardy perennial mvp candidate and kyrie's a perennial all star not an mvp candidate but in terms of just pure skill you give it to kyrie. Same thing with k. D. lebron may be he runs is the better player has been throughout his career. But that's because lebron's wisdom basketball. Iq is off the charts. He knows when to deploy all his skills but in terms of pure gifts almost seven feet tall can score from anywhere at all can defend five positions really at least switch on met multiple positions. Yeah steve kerr's not wrong about k. D. so i'm also interested today in people's top tens in the league right now seems to me there. Aren't that many open slots but trae young devon booker spider mitchell. They soon spite of mitchell. 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He's fearless steph. Curry careless see too often. Does that steph curry. Normally better than trae young. It's not close but when it matters most would you rather have be honest. The max kellerman show presented by progressive insurance. Eighty eight say. Espn eight hundred seventy nine. Three seven seven six by the way now on the goodyear hotline cpa the franchise nba analysts. Ep i wanna start you with this question knicks fan tv but also overall basketball analyst. Cpa i want to start you with this question. Ready for as well how you been. I haven't seen you in a minute. Have you been vacation finally over. I'm looking for us. Rogers he city hopping all over the world watching soccer games year. Mia me and brendan. Were getting ready to start up our own thing. That'll be very very widely listened to listen. So what i what i wanna ask you about. Is this i see trae. Young play do a top ten player to me. He's putting a team on his back and he's making a deep playoff run. I see donovan. Mitchell play second year in a row when he's on the court it's a top ten player. Right i see devon booker play. Holy lord this kickable. How are the but then check this out. Just listen to these names. Okay lebron k. D. kawhi steph harden a d. m. beat luca yokich jaanus. That's ten watch so so like guys like paul george. They're not top fifteen players anymore because dude there's trae booker. donovan mitchell c. p. Three kyri westbrook bradley beal. paul george. What is what is happening in the nba. Is there a changing of the guard taking place before our is there is. There is an and what we're seeing. We're seeing the president of future superstars of the nba especially with lebron james on his way out What we saw last night from trae young was nothing. Short of magical max. I saw him live for the first four games of the knicks series. He was incredible. You know the late great koby bryant once said about steph curry he said. Had you guard a player. Who's comfortable taking the shots that the defense wants to take and that's what we saw from trae young last night. There is no answer for him. He wants said that drew holiday was the toughest defender he's ever faced well. He cooked jrue holiday last night and he cooked the books defense last night. An absolute maestro out of the high pick and roll as soon as he turns out corner and he's a triple threat whether it's the floater. Whether to lob over the top or getting it out to one of many three point shooters the. The kid is absolutely phenomenal. Man now his third straight road victory in the first game in the playoffs. He stole the game. Against the knicks he dominated philadelphia now. Dominated has pointed out incredible. Cpu the franchise on the max kellerman show espn radio as pointed out during the broadcast. Last night brooke lopez's brook lopez is unplayable because of because of trae young's pick and roll and i can't even blame. Drew holiday like getting. No help and kenny smith broke down at one point. You started arguing but he broke it down like you know defender can stop trae. Young one on one drew holiday can do the best possible job. But you're gonna need some help. He has been absolutely phenomenal. But so has devon booker when he's been on the floor so was donovan mitchell. So let's expend expand the ten to twelve. Let's see let's say the top ten slots unless you disagree or some order of lebron k d's steph harden coli a d. m. bead yokich luca and yannis. Okay like those top. That's hard to take one of those guys off. So there are two more slots for the top twelve so here are your candidates. As far as i'm concerned you could add anyone you want. Donovan mitchell devon booker trae young. Cpi three kyri irving bradley bill. Russell westbrook paul. George not even getting to like there are lots of them leaving off now. Who rounds out the dirty dozen. You got two more saas. Pick them to more yup eighty eight splat to go spider for sure. All right we wait before you reveal before you reveal. Fight is on for sure with. There's one more slot is going to be trae. Young devon booker. Chris paul kyrie irving bradley beal who gets the twelfth slot at this level of play. I have to give it a trae young. Not just for his scoring and building. Melissa next sky finished second in the league in passing he's a playmaker. We cannot forget that so he is truly a dynamic threat out there. And i have to give that to overbook. Book has been great. He's been great in the playoffs. And certainly on the rise rising superstar himself but trae young's playmaking ability. He's playing a lot more under control in in the season as compared to seasons past and he's also dynamic from three dynamic on the perimeter. He's a triple threat. I think i agree with you. It's a really tough call but just understand what you're saying. What you're what you just said means chris. Paul is not a top twelve player in the league. Kyri irving is not a top twelve player in the league. Neither is devon booker. Are those the next three in our those three guys. The next three in and that rounds up top fifteen. So no paul george. No bradley beal. No russell westbrook. I'm not putting him. He's to one dimensional great score one of the best in the league right at about it. One dimensional three. He's still at the top but he's more of a leader. Now you know the numbers is not going to strike out at you. You know what. I mean he. He's still a leader. He's still for general out there and extension of the coach. Got us gifts ep. Three suspect big game. I know who. I left out Paul george regional. Who i left out. The retail damian lillard lillard danes so they had dams on top ten. Is he top ten. I put david my top ten so out of your top ten top tonight. I katie lebron. Hard in the greek freak team yokich luka doncic steph and coagulant so you don't have i think spying need 'em bead was gonna be. Mvp this year but missed too many games. He was about to be mvp he was he was. I had to put the real. Mvp yoga janine. But but only like he was better than yoga's you didn't play as many games. He's the best two way player in the game right now. You could argue. He's not in your top ten so if he even making i gotta give playmaking an edge match. What about jason tatum better. What about jason tatum. Tatum's in the top fifty. Definitely so embiid's eleven. He ain't lower lower than eleven right. You can't have. He's really top ten. But okay you're gonna put them eleven. Yeah now your talk. Do you see what's going on in the nba. People you're going to have. It sounds to me like chris. Paul and either chris. Paul devon booker kyrie irving are not in your top fifteen eighty eight say. Espn seven nine. Three seven seven six. What's trae young's ceiling c. p. At this pace max and i'm just i'm factoring in the playmaking because scoring is always going to be there you know. He had that reputation coming out of oklahoma but is facilitating ability as well key could end up being one of the best point guards of all time. No doubt about it. If you're gonna have this type of scoring arsenal and combine that with the fact that you're also play make. I mean the the alleyoop glass in the third quarter of last night's child. Liza was absolutely globetrotter shot. Yeah i mean. The kid is fearless. He's a leader. He's cold blooded. He could be if he maintains at this pace he truly could be one. Look steph is better than trae in every way until it matters. Most steph chimneys in the regular season trae shemeit's in the play offs in the playoffs. And you would rather have the guy who shimmy is in the play offs because he just did something big. Cpa's no lead-safe there's no in. This kid is on the court. There's no lady safe. cpi there you have it. He was very very hard on. Joel embiid who says not a top ten player aldama bomb. That's messed up. Doesn't have three and his top fifteen just ruthless today. Cpi really ruthless all right. Very good problem. The has asked. Cpa the franchise. On the goodyear hotline. Check them out. Nick spanned tv. Knicks are doing great in the playoffs. Right now the oh sorry. They're not in the playoffs. Helping you discover the road ahead. I can't hear you anymore c. p. goodyear more driven. We can see you but we can't hear you anymore. So is in the top ten now. The max kellerman show on. Espn radio presented by progressive insurance progressive. They're making things even easier to help you. Bundle your home and car insurance together. So you can save on both learn more progressive dot com or one eight hundred progressive. The max kellerman. Chill the podcast as province voiceover artist. I'm here to explain bottomless. How do i get across free refills on fries and drinks. 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A atop. fifteen player does jason. Tatum brings the top twenty. Because it doesn't seem to me like he could squeeze jamal murray or jaama rant or klay thompson or zion williamson in the top twenty eight say. Espn seventy nine. Three seven six. The western conference finals are on. Espn radio tune in tonight for game. Three of the clippers hosts two sons presented by indeed coverage begins at eight thirty pm eastern on. Espn radio stations top ten in the nba. Time for lebron steph k. D. to move over. Are these young guns. These young lions on the way up. You see what like think about what these playoffs have shown this season for the guys on the way up. Jami rant think jamal murray did in the bubble. You can't play better than that. He had a game with fifty points and no turnovers jaama rant in these playoffs in five games against utah average. Thirty points eight assists and four boards. Klay thompson went. Last seen was the best two way players and basketball. I don't think any of those dudes can craft the top twenty and guys like zach levine. Jimmy butler khris middleton forget it jalen brown. Forget it. No shot karl. Anthony towns was supposed to be one of the dominant guys. No shot de'andre aiden. Nope top twenty. I don't think so. It is tough in and let alone guys on the way up. Like lamelo ball or anthony edwards. Because they're coming. Is it tough. I'll tell you what kevin oklahoma you're on kellerman show. Espn radio yeah. I wanted to talk about the phoenix suns and keep hearing all these. Can you hear all. These analysts talk about the phoenix suns. And we already know the best abilities availability. So i'm hearing all the crying about Bang paul joe. Oh they ain't got quiet. Leonard and this other phoenix do. When they had a chris paul go down. They stepped up the fact of the matter. Is this team. Got moxie the fact of the matter is they got the best roster up and down. I hear what you're saying. But i hear what you're saying but let's be honest about this. They did win without chris. Paul but the other team didn't have kawhi leonard. Coys better than chris. Paul but like. Let's call that a wash. They lost by one possession in a couple of games on the road. The clippers like those games didn't say the sons are better than the clippers. They said they had home court over the clippers and they want now talking about availability is right but this season is exceptional because out of the bubble there was a a shortened offseason and then a compressed schedule condensed schedule and as a result. This is not a normal thing where teams missing their third best player. I'm not gonna make a big deal out of that right but look around. The league at who has missed game significant time in these playoffs. Anthony davis james harden kyw re irving forget about a guy like mike conley right like that's bad for utah but i'm not focusing on a guy like that Jamal murray has been out for the whole thing. Look at every single playoff series. You just unavoidable. It's happening differently this year. That kawhi leonard. Now you're taking the best player. The second best player of almost every single playoff team and the suns. While it's true. Chris paul mr couple of games have by and large been fortunate that way. Look everyone's playing under the same conditions. The suns win. They win the whole thing. They win though. I i liked him a lot in the preseason but we gotta be honest about it corey in texas. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio what's going on. Mix going let me say this. Let me say this may trae young exceptional talent to me. He's gonna be besides magic. The first point guard Just leader of the team point car the head. A snake concord to win the championship. Oh i'm saying being the best player on but teams that this year isaiah did that. He was the best player on his team. And he won a couple of championships. I agree with you on that. I grew to over what i said. But i'm saying when you're looking at the style of play trae young is bringing at such a young age. You see what i'm saying. I do you go back and look at steph. He didn't do it if they'll curry man. Great no he didn't do it. You're right this is a good point Korean texts making a good point steph. Curry one one championship as the head of the snake so to speak and that was only because the other team didn't have their second or third best players available. No kyrie no kevin love. That's the only reason he won that series and he didn't win. Mvp iguala did steve. Nash never won a championship. John stockton never won a championship. Jason kidd wanna championship passes prime and the best player on the team was dirk nowitzki. Rhonda won a championship with ray allen and paul pierce. Kevin garnett right. That was the big three. no right. who was the point guard. There was magic isaiah and tell me another point guard in isaiah. Was the best player on the team. Ish like that was a very well-balanced team. Yeah trey could maybe do it. Max kellerman show. Espn radio anyone. Stop trae young. Thanks for listening to the max kellerman show make sure you subscribe rate and review. You can hear the show weekdays at two pm eastern on. Espn radio espn news. Or wherever you stream your audience this is adrian morton hausky check out my podcast. The world with insight and analysis on the top stories the nba adrian forge ascii are insider extraordinary reaction to the breaking news. This is the latest world bomb an in depth conversations with some of the biggest names in the league. Thanks again i'm good. Thanks for having jabor guests Yes thank you always appreciate you. 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Hour 2: Brian Windhorst

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Hour 2: Brian Windhorst

"The. We've got a stat of the day for you. We will continue that conversation that STAN Van Gundy started where he appears to be advocating for Clemson to pay Davos winning in free education to give Daboh all the access. He wants to the library. All the textbooks that he wants they're going to pay him in education instead of those million dollar bonuses that he had saying what is the what is the most surprised or most wrong? You've been about a player where did you have for example, Luca where a lot of people? Got it wrong on Donncha, which is pronouncing it correctly. Don. She pronounced worked for me. I never got into that draft. I got fired before we got into the draft. So I can't tell you where I had him. I mean, obviously, I think the big one that a lot of people missed on the most recent was was done of in Mitchell. You know, he he dropped down to thirteen. Devon Booker did the same thing. And so I was a head of both of those guys. So I think that you know, a lot of people missed on on those guys there's people go to miss on people every year. I mean, look at Cayo Kouzmin coming off that great game last night. He goes all the way down to the late first round. So. As good a job as people do. And is prepared his people are they're still always going to be people you miss on. And that's true in every sport. We're going to get to stand van Gundy's hot nuggets in your face in a second. But Stu gods have been talking about a stat of the day. He's been talking about two things today's wearing everybody out around here because God's does on show whether anyone's listening or not, and I don't mean just listeners listening. I mean anyone around here is co workers. So he's been for three segments. He's been trading went and keeping foles, and he's just been it's been a barrage. So I don't know what the stat of the day is about, but it's the only two things to it's been talking about today. The short version we've got a lot to get to might start of the day day in this stat of the day start of the day start of the day in this style of the day. Start of the day start of day this stat of the day start up the day instead of the day the. The start of the day. Courtesy of Tom habits drought. If we removed two pointers from the equation James harden is averaging twenty three point eight points per game. The the way that he plays, Dan. I'm curious because you, you know, he's he's looking I whether Daryl Morey is right. The most efficient score ever. But when you score forty points on eight made, baskets, you're not playing beautiful basketball. But you're certainly playing officiant basketball, you're giving your team plenty of rest while you're at the free throw line. So what what do you make a James harden? Can you separate the two things stand because I know you love successful basketball players, but it's hard to watch that that's not what I watch basketball for. No, absolutely. I'm with you on that. I think they're incredibly hard to watch. I don't really enjoy it. They only they not only get arrested when he's on the free throw line. They get arrest when they're on offense the other four guys well three of them. Anyway, just stand in one place. They don't move at all cappella, occasionally, set a pick enrolled at a basket. They'll get the switch, and then they watch him isolate for fifteen dribbles. Well, he goes he's very efficient. But you're. Basically watching a one on one game every time down. So if you wanna watch a good one on one game with good players, then you'll enjoy watching James harden things we working no it works. And look I've said I give Mike the Tony a ton of credit. I really do because that's not how Mike would prefer to play the game. Like if you look at his teams in Phoenix. I mean, first of all he wants to run, and they don't run it all because James doesn't want to run. And I so they walked the ball up the floor. Everybody stands around, but Mike Antonis job is to win games. And that gives them the best chance to win. I mean because this guy is so good. And so you think my head's best years t you think he hates watching it. Put it on the poll. Antoni hate watching James aren't come on. Yeah. No. I think he does. I think it probably drives him crazy at times. But but he knows what his job is in. You. Do appreciate the excellence of of James harden and how good he is. But man that is bad basketball to watch. Let's let's throw some hot nuggets in the face of the audience basketball themed give it to me might and now time stamp and Gundy's top MBA nuggets owning Thursday show. The thing. He. Excellent work has always ROY. Do we have a theme this week? Stan. Yeah, we're going to stick with James harden, but a little bit of curry and the in the three pointers as our theme today. All right, number three. Your third hottest nugget is James orange just set an NBA record making five or more threes in eleven straight games. In those eleven games. He made seventy three threes to put that in perspective in three point crazy league. Only forty six other guys have made seventy three threes this entire season. Gets what Magic Johnson was from three the year. The Lakers won the championship in nineteen eighty two. I believe you wanna take a guess, STAN. I have no idea I'm going to say he made five. I'm going to say he made a hundred and five. Recycle leave over twenty one. Your second best nuggets. Stan Van Gundy. Your second best nugget is last year. James harden became the only player in league history to lead the league in threes. Made and free throws made in the same season. He's on pace to do that. Again this year to put that in perspective the guy who is second in made threes, Steph curry has made two hundred ten fewer free throws than harden in the guy who second free throws maye. Joel Embiid has made one hundred thirty three fewer threes. Best guess STAN has Larry Bird ever made one hundred threes in season. I'm going to say, I'm gonna say, no. I'm gonna say every season. It's no why think it's it's no look that up for me gamma, the number one best nugget of all time from STAN Van Gundy when it comes to threes is will you can't talk about three point shooting without talking Steph curry he second in the league right now with one hundred fifty one made threes he is also second in his family in three point percentage is brother Seth leads the league at forty nine percent while Steph is in eighth at only forty four point three percent. It is weird to watch his brother play because you can see it. You can see them running around. They look the same. They look except for the idea that one of them makes two hundred three's in the other one doesn't play. Seth was on the warriors. If he would be Steph now. No, no, that's not how that would work out. Brian wind horse gets yelled at by STAN Van Gundy, next Stu gods. Here you've got real task questions. So turbo tax live has real tax professionals who can answer them for you. They have CPA's in e as your on demand ready to give you advise an answer questions as you go their tax pros get to know you. So they could offer personalized gestures and find all the deductions you deserve. Whether you are stuck at a specific question. Oranje guidance working through your return, their tax experts. Give you the confidence to ensure your return is done. Right. Turbo. Tax live would CPA's in e as on demand. See details at turbo tax dot com. Donlevatar people have told me before when I was younger that I looked like George Clooney series. What I was younger. Stugatz. You have a booger in your right nostril? So does Clooney these live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. So. Dan, Van Gundy told you earlier he respects Brian Windhorst by wind horse is an excellent basketball writer and information guy. If you want to check out his hoop collective podcast, you can do. So new episodes every Monday and Thursday, you can listen on all the ESPN and apple gizmos stand. Go ahead and tell I know you said this earlier, but Brian win horse wrote the article why the NBA executive coach doesn't work, and he laid out the argument of the failures that that have led to Tom fitter recently being fired. So go ahead and tell Brian as he comes on with us how wrong he is. Well, what I said earlier is it not only works. It has always worked in terms of teams getting better in a Gregg Popovich the obvious won five championships. The only conventional model that's worked better was Jerry Krause and Phil Jackson, Pat Riley took over the team in Miami. And eventually. He came back one a championship. But certainly turned that around Doc Rivers four years with the clippers the best four year period in LA clipper history might Bhuttan Holzer. Improve the hawks by seven wins a year in the three years that he had both jobs. Tom tibidot takes over a team averaging twenty eight wins a year that three year before he gets it. And if you average out what it would have been by his win percentage. He he wins an average of thirty nine games a year in Minnesota that team got better. And as I said, I was the worst. And we took over the worst team in the east. Okay. When we came in we improved it by eight wins a year over the four years we were there. So I'm racking my brain to find out Winnington didn't get better with that. Mar. So you guys go back on this. I won't give status the pistons where mess when he got there and he got into the playoffs. And that's definitely true. I think when you use the Popovich and Pat Riley, examples absently, right, STAN. And I think they are the outliers. I think the clippers they had they had good teams. But I think from a front office perspective, they they did they did very poorly. When doc was was head of the P the president, which is one of the reasons why they took it away from him. And and the the the hawks went backwards. They were sixty when team in Danny ferries last year as the no win team in Mike's first year because Danny built the team Danny got removed right before the season started. It was it was Danny's that was Danny's team that two years later when bud had control for two years. They were forty three when but I don't I don't even think we need to go blow by blow here. I think that the thing about it is and I. Two two. If you if you guys do. Chew. Because the what it seems to me Brian that you're basing the fact that fails on is that the owners decide to go in a different direction. So what you're basing the fact that the model fails on his you're saying the owners never make a bad decision. Oh, you're right about that. I think a lot I think about everything that happens with teams can be traced ownership. I think ownership is the most important thing whether it's a coach selecting who to work for or whether it's a player selecting who to play for ownership is very undervalued. But I would say that one of the things, and you you can certainly speak to this in Khudair day and age, you know, this was not the case with Red Auerbach was not even the case when when Pat Riley and pop took over their teams in the stabbed in the nineties. You get all of the blame a draft pick doesn't work out. You know, you have a bad month's, you know, you you. There's an issue at the player. Coach relationship. One guy gets all of the blame. And that was harder to survive that's harder to survive these days than it was in the eighties nineties when this when this rose up, and that's something. I think is is a big factor here in today's day and age where the media is all over the league. Like, for example, one of the one of the first things that Doc Rivers did when he became president was the front office botched managing the hard salary cap. They use the full mid level exception hard cap their team and ended up having to trade away, a first round pick to get out of a mess that they put themselves in for no good reason. You know, you didn't have a media all over every single move. You know, every single, you know, salary cap machination, and you know, weren't pointing out Dr screwing that up that wasn't happening in nineteen ninety seven went, Pat. Riley was running the heat. It is a completely new world. Out there, and that makes it harder that you know, that means that to be successful in that job to survive. It. You've gotta have great seasons. You've gotta you've gotta have Gregg Popovich type seasons. And part of the reason why pop was has been so good. And that is an RC Buford. As a hall of fame general manager who's out there finding these incredible players. It wasn't pop found manager nobly. Tony Parker was RC. Now, he drafted him and he gets credit for that. And you know, I would say that your general manager in Detroit. Jeff Bauer was one of the most highly respected executives in the league. You talk to people in the league. Nobody would say anything positive things about Jeff Bauer. It is a really really hard job though, especially when you inherited a mess of a situation when they had five coaches the previous seven years in very limited talent on the roster. You have to thread the needle and be so good in that job because anymore. Sake. That happens comes back to you. And I think that's a scenario that is different today than and it makes it harder to survive in that job than it was when Popovich Riley took over STAN, we'll not arguing that it makes it harder to survive. But I I don't think it means that it hasn't that it hasn't worked. It's worked in terms of every team that's done. It. The team has gotten better on the court everybody that's done it. And certainly there's front office mistakes made. I mean, we don't have the time in this entire show to outline the ones that I made Brian, but that's not to say that people with the conventional model aren't making just as many mistakes, we wanna go organization by organization, and because the jobs are split up. They don't make mistakes. I mean, that's I think not true at all every one of these teams and the most recent situation with Tom you wanna talk about taking they hadn't been to the playoffs since two thousand and four that team was a laughing stock. Doc, he made them relevant. He got them to the playoffs in forty seven wins in the west this idea that Tom tip Tom typical failed in Minnesota, not even close. I don't know how anybody could come to the conclusion that he failed there. Now, they decided to make a change. They do it. Glenn Taylor can do what he wants an owner. I've always been supportive of that. It's owners team. He does what he wants. But there's nobody that gonna convince me the top Ditto failed in Minnesota that Brian did he fail? Here's the thing. Again, I'll go back and by the way, one of the points in this article is that this will still happen again. Because there will be teams who are so desperate to recruit coaching talent that they will give the coach both jobs, for example, withstand the Golden State Warriors, correct me if I'm wrong, again, we're ready to make you their coach. It was the most attractive job on the market. They wanted you. And you were so in demand that Tom Gores from the owner of the piss. Was like I want STAN Van Gundy, so bad. I am giving him everything he wants giving him the money. I'm giving him the years. I'm giving him the job titles that will happen again. This is not going away. But the tips point the trade that he makes the reason got fired because he bet big on Jimmy Butler. Jimmy, Butler did not reciprocate. And and that's failure. Was the reason at the end of the day was the reason why he lost his job because what happened with the team had the general manager made that trade, and he had been the one that had to take the bullets for that Villier, Tom, Tim, but I would still be the coach if there was some general manager general manager acts of milk Newton had retained the job when flip pass away and Milton Newton had made Jimmy Butler trade even at Tom Tim told him to do it Jim, you know, it would be Milton. Newton's neck was on the line or manager general manager ex. And that's just one of the things that is just so different. Like, you know, I'm an agreement with stand in the general idea here that that a that if. You know, basketball, and that you have full control your team that you may be able to improve the team. I just think it's really hard today's environment for to work because of that. Well, I would agree with you that it's hard on coach. There's no question in terms of the way that your evaluated, but I think from the team's perspective. The team has always gotten better when people have done this. And it's amazing to me though, that the narrative now is this doesn't work. I think one of the things that happened is, you know, Adam silver came out against it and Adams, a great great Commissioner and the owners pretty much. Everybody appreciates Adam wants to please. Adam Adam doesn't like it teams are going away. But to promote a narrative that it doesn't work, and especially in this last case with Tom that it didn't work it didn't work for Tom. Okay. Because he did end up taking the blame. I don't even know why he's why there's blame to be passed around one. That's bite. One one. Brian wine. Brian. Point was excellent. I wanted. I think he's favoring the coach thank you, Brian. We appreciate your time. We we need on a podcast where we don't have commercial restraint. Lebatardshow friends will be doing something. Like, did you see what I just did? I just open door feta promote that. Thank you very much. Good at this. Winter why the NBA executive coach doesn't work but won't go away. I think STAN would would agree with the final words of Brian win horses article, which is unless you really successful. And so few can meet that standard because of all the variables in this complicated game. It's a hard position to survive in very long on the bright side. They all got very rich trying. Okay. He's right on both points. Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete Glades since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice some nights, he even slept in hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced unto one day when he was forty seven peak realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how Geico proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. 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But Mike, I think that means you should play the shorter one here because we've already done it start of the days the day. They see a style of the day start of the day's date. They stat of the day start of the. Today's day in this stat of the day start up the day instead of the day, fitness the start of the day. Dot I've never heard STAN laugh harder than he did at a story. I told him about my father the other day. We'll get to that in a second. But what is the stat of the day? Stan, okay. Dan. This was sent to me yesterday, our friend. Boop Shem be the reds Joey Votto has seen twenty seven thousand six hundred sixty eight pitches over six thousand seven hundred sixty four career plate appearances. He has never popped out to the catcher the pitcher or the first baseman hard to believe legitimately hard to believe yellow yellow has similar type of stuff because they make contact or they just waking Yeli the mass taker you may have seen this show, I don't know stand because on Wednesday night, you're watching all those credit. Chicago shows have you seen this show. The mast taker the master the mast singer because we've got a mass take around. Here. But the mass singer is something that has got a lot of popularity somebody Billy thinks that what is it the deer that you think is Terry Bradshaw. Oh, the deer is Terry Bradshaw. It's not a thinking thing, here's Terry. And does this kind of television. Have are you interested in any way in not at all? Okay. So we will push you to the side, and what and debut this segment about the mass take what you have here, Billy. Alright substan-. I feel like you haven't given us a fair shot. You don't exactly know what's going on. So this is how it works. It's a singing competition in which they get celebrities singers athletes, just people of note, they come out, and they perform essentially karaoke. But you know, what some people don't get a fair shake because they're judged on their appearance or what they're known for. So they come out, basically as mascot, and they perform, and we can see what an jelly voices they have. And they'll give you clues. And you have to guess who it was now last night was week two of the Massingir n es a tremendous show last night featured rabbit versus. Alien rabbit right now, I'm telling you pretty sure it's Joey Joe down Joey Fatone versus alien. I have no idea who the hell alien is every time they have like a singer come up. They'll have like the women singer in particular, for whatever reason they all seem to have a lot of sisters. And everybody's always guessing it's a car. Dash. I don't know if it was an instruction to have people think the Kardashians are participating, but it's not going to be a crash, and I'm telling you right now, then round two that was my giving you the signal at any point that you care to to land the plane, or or you could just talk get out of here. I'm going somewhere else. I'm going to see a little cruel right there. I'm going to Stephen a Smith sound I'm going to see. We went through that entire setup. Let's get a mass taker. Okay, so there's like Massingir. So we're gonna play a mass take. All right. We go to instant review. And we find out that Billy wasn't a penalty. Go head Billy. All right. So round two is pineapple versus back pineapple versus raven and Fred Nick's wife net thinks that raven is Ricky lake so it could be Ricky lake and then the third round was poodle versus spoiler at the end of the episode. We find out who pineapple is. And it was Tommy Chong. All right. So we developed the spinoff game called the mass taker on the show where we've distorted the voices of some hot takers, and you guys need to guess who they are. Now, we have six or seven it depends. How much time we have good. There of ready. Here's the first mass taker. Yes. You for. Were many you wear for stare to your dorm any thought of giving you all say, you should you should use. Can you bring up the fact that you to zippo now, the no no shark at all that's guts. Isn't that? No. That's you have a guess, I think it's Tony basilic. Stan, I think it's Stephen. You don't ask for a set you? Yes. You don't ask the minute. You ask for a statue? You're done any thought of getting statue. All right. So that's my goal. Is it amazing amazing game? Mazing? I wanna play this for the rest of the time. Billy. Anyway, they'll five minutes. Go go sit in the penalty box. I've been at major Joe just general principle. We didn't host of the game though. We don't need a host of the game. Who is this? Groups too. Plus two to plus tips to us. Glenn was perhaps too. Stan who was that? I have no idea. I can't even make out the words it was about hanters baby hamster's wheel idea on hamsters that oh God read gave birth and had little hamster babies in that hamster wheel. We'd plastic cage the plastic hand, thank you. It was a good story. Well, told let me have another mass taker. Action. Fashionable. Tune while sports that seemingly. Much. They coming aloft in. Excellent. And any guesses on who that is? That's probably me his coaching one of the most unprofessional and unfocused teams anywhere in sports that seemingly was thrown together with no thought of character or what it takes to win games whatsoever. And they are quickly becoming a laughing stock donlevatar Oscar Robinson had forty one triple doubles back at sixty one sixty to forty once through God's, it's Robertson. But. Okay. But these live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. We've got some Stephen a Smith sound to play for you. Because we delight slathering ourselves bathing and Stephen a Smith getting indignant about s about anything. But before we do that happy seventieth birthday seven zero for George Foreman. Happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck. Mike, I'd like to play for STAN Van Gundy that hulk HOGAN story about the George Foreman grill because I know he will enjoy that story. George foreman. Also has I believe seven to nine kids named either Georgia or georgette. What is it? Billy is George junior. George foreman. The third George Foreman fifth. George Foreman the six and Georgetta foreman. What happened to George Foreman fourth? There's that one to skipped it. I'll just go penalty. Mike play four STAN please the story of the phone call that whole Cogan missed is it true that you passed on the George Foreman grill idea? No. It's not true. I missed the phone call. What happened? Tell me the story in my answering machine. My agent calling me HOGAN, I'm calling the two things I got a grill. And I got a blunder. I got got these two choices for you, George. So when I called him back. My agent says well, I called you first and I figured you'd take the grill, but you weren't home so call Georgia. He took the grill. So four hundred four hundred fifty million dollars later, we've got. Every size and color. You can imagine. And I got the blender that you've put eight ounces of water. A scoop of protein AA battery edited spend three times and farting cut off. Could have been hugging grill. Such a great story. So Stephen a Smith as you know, comes on after us, and he is not having this Kingsbury higher. He's also not having. He's got no tolerance here for max. Kellerman, Stu gods? Did you see that he dismissed max Kellerman? The other day max Keller was trying to make a point. He was trying to weave tapestry at brought in cultural identification and and human connection points with the audience, and Stephen Smith was not having that well tissue the New York Knicks are laughing stock. I encourage New Yorkers to start sniffing around for other teams. I would say the lessons that I learned in my in my Seder, Stephen at Passover where where we related to old what they called negro spirituals who related back to the to the exits where they said where let my people go. That's right. We sat around the table go series. Yes. You need to let porzingas go. Let him go and be great somewhere. Don't have this. Franchise ruin him. And I would say Knicks fans also allowed to leave all night. Please go to commercial. This on the king. I'm the Kingsbury higher. Stephen a Smith was not interested in hearing other viewpoints about the idea that you need a quarterback whisper. And you gotta save Josh Rosen with the guy who went thirty five and forty tumbleweed. You was kingsborough team to one that won the national championship this Monday instead of Daboh sweetie with that his team am I missing something. I don't understand is this some golden boy that I missed demand even have a five hundred record at Texas Tech. He got an offensive coordinator's job at USC before he had a chance to take a leak. This brothers. Got a head coach job in the football league. Have an opportunity to go to roscoe's for ticket. A waffle. I mean, what the hell is going on? Okay. Okay. He's photogenic. The ladies will love the Kingsbury tummy. Let's stop the presence right now. The ladies are going to be all over the place drooling over cliff cake burry, he's photogenic itself people's eyes. It looks like a model in my personal opinion. He looks like he belongs on the bachelor his the problem. He looked like he belongs on a bachelor more on the side. More on a side. Gotta be kidding me. That's the sound of the day. It's brought to you by my computer career dot EDU trading for a better life. Things are happening with Kingsbury van is wrong. Stephen, I abso- I respect Stephen. But have you noticed things are starting to happen? What does that cliff? Kingsbury is absolutely my coaching hero at this point. I mean, understand this guy. Not only had a losing record and got fired at Texas Tech. He was living in Lubbock, Texas. Now, I've been there is maybe the worst place in this country to live. Okay. He was living there. He got fired. And he got a job making more money and got to move up to the NFL and gets the living. Phoenix Arizona, this guy the jackpot. He's my hero that things are happening. Well, when I was gonna say, it stands analysis was excellent. How fundamentally useless was to God's his things are happening. What does that mean? This is what you just did to meet you. Magled your sausage fingers at me. Like, you had a good point. And then you said things are happening. Which is always true. That's the thing. That is always true any point in human life. Yep. He's been saying back here to is coming into breaks things like they hired him yesterday. We're talking about things are happening. And here's what's happening. We have spent more time talking about the cardinals the last two days, and we've spent our entire lives talking. Nine. Are happening interest. Was Super Bowl recently things at here's some of the things that are happening. Okay. He's the coach that's generating conversation. Okay. He's a good looking guy. That's also generating conversation. And Now, Dan have you heard this Cuyler Murray Kingsbury said because he just says stuff, and when you say stuff things happen. Okay. And he said Kyla Murray would be his first overall pick of the draft out Tober now Murray wants to play football. So I was gonna drp buried trade Rosen at first round pick things are happening that. I wish you were as good as he is generating conversation. Are happening there happening in Arizona. So if the job were to generate conversation, he's doing it. Better than anyone would talk more about the cardinals team in the NFL. Everyone's confused by the highest guy. That's because things are happening. Okay. That must be the reason stand Gundy laughed harder than I've ever seen him laugh about anything involving something with my father. We are going to get to that story next. It is not lie. It is the truth. And it's a bit amazing.

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Hour 2: Fitting The Crown

The Stephen A. Smith Show

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Hour 2: Fitting The Crown

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This is the max kellerman kellerman show on. Espn radio back taking after the siriusxm channel eighty and wherever you get your podcast eight eight nine three seven six max kellerman showed about dress of insurance kevin durant thirty points in game number two. Is the bucks been bewildered to start the series and brooklyn. Biggest playoff win in franchise history. So many people told me the bucks. Beat the the nets. Andre snellings bach drei very owned. Espn analytic scott Kendrick perkins the perk carry on. Beat the nets. Now's like well. Look you good series without james harden the only chance they have james harden the only prayer they have is to hope that the nets haven't had enough time to get their defense together to the point where you know and even the nets are going to win time out. They didn't have enough time to get their defense together. And they don't even have james harden and the buxton chance game one. You could say well the bucks were missing. Open shots game too. How do you describe game. Two and one of the most kind of one of the least talked about storylines here think of how the clippers did blake griffin with the contract and the whole thing and then the trade and blake griffin was not playing for detroit. Last year. So wouldn't dunk anything clippers. Get them on a bye. Sorry nets get him on a buyout. It turns out blake griffin. Would he give him eighteen and fourteen or something like that in game one and in game two dunked all over jaanus in the eyeball test said. Oh yeah that's blake griffin understand. It's not like blake. forgot how to play. It said he couldn't jump anymore. And since he's not a great shooter or a great defender. What's the word amazing passer. What's the deal like. Why uplink from. What's the point just to body. He's like an average average below average mba body but if blake griffin's jumping like that and he's the third or fourth option on your team could lord too big three k. d. kyrie and blake. Now that's without chain toward. Do you understand what's going to happen i. I don't think the basketball god's will allow this nets team to be all healthy at the same time. I don't think it's going to happen. It's like it's too much for brains to comprehend so the basketball guys make sure always someone's hurt. I told everyone when i saw the but kadian kyrie. I don't know if they're getting out of the east. The ad james harden. I'm like i don't know. They lost a lot of depth. Because they had injuries they had carousel avert in dinwiddie and this one and that one and then they got an injury then they traded and it's like there's top heavy and i don't know korean able to share the same. There's only one ball. They worked at outright quick and even without k. D. almost never lost an edited certain point. I told everybody if those guys are healthy. There's not a single team in the nba including the lakers. If lebron a deer healthy that will take the nets seven games. No one will go the distance with his team. It's the greatest offense going to be the greatest offense in the history of american team sports and if they can even have an average defense and it only took him two or three weeks during the regular season to get the defense to about average then. There's no stopping them. I even say if they just had some continuity in health they're better than the katie warriors because the katie warriors. Don't forget seventy three win. Team doesn't win the championship. Now they're unbeatable but unbeatable. But the james harden. Mike d'antoni rockets even without chris paul and even having the worst shooting night of all time literally over twenty seven. One one stretch during this game over twenty-seven from three not chris paul james harden and the rockets only lost by single digits at home in game seven to the k. d. steph warriors because they played the most efficient brand basketball of all time. Daryl morey mike d'antoni james harden. Well steve nash. The head coach antonis on the bench. There's james harden and running a hardened d'antoni offense but they're doing it with the warriors k. D. equals k. d. hardin equal steph roughly equivalent players. Klay thompson better. Two way player. Because he's a defender longer and he's better shooter than kyrie. I think most people would say kyrie's a better player than clay because at least offensively kyri can get his own shot and hit it from anywhere. Put the ball on the floor. Make decisions the whole thing on a different level and then who is the fourth option on golden state. Because you know who the fourth option on this team is i thought it was joe harris. It's blake griffin joe. Harris is the fifth option. It's insane it is insane. And you wanna beat that with the milwaukee bucks behind jaanus and then his main support is. Chris middleton andrew holiday. I mean it's a nice team. But that's not going to get a whiff in this series and this is again without harden kevin durant on into milwaukee crowd is going to be infirm the second we get on the flow of warm ups and we know guys play more they play better and more comfortable. Anr sleep in their own beds and got the same teams at home. So you know we gotta work off. What what we're looking forward to. They don't have their work. Cut out. I don't see it. I katie is playing it an exceptionally high level on offense. The real thing about katie. Of course he can score from anywhere we all know that but it his height his sight line is clean to survey the floor and he's a willing an excellent passer. We don't think of like lebron or one of these guys whose like some genius next level passer k. D. is an excellent passer. He he's offensively whole lot. It's just that you know. So many people andre snellings box can beat him kendrick perkins the bucks can beat him guys know james harden their beating them by at wound up like in the. What was it early fourth quarter. They were forty something points. Good lord is katie. The best player in the world. Yeah today he is. You know who was the date. Because he's the last great player to play in these playoffs. Lebron's hurt the crown is up for grabs least. A piece of the title is up for grabs. Lebron won't be the undisputed best player in basketball. The end of the season. He'll he'll he'll. He'll have a claim like y'all i was hurt and a d wasn't even available so i'm not trying to hear that just because lebron play in the finals are win the title. He's no longer the best in the game but given his age and the fact that this is two out of the last three seasons where injury played a role in him not winning the title. Can we still call him the best. He'll have a chance next year. Prove it just like he came back and proved it. Last season won the title and was sorry. Lebron you're the guy he's going to have to prove it again though. Always gotta prove it and reprove it right in life. He's going to have to prove it again. Someone else going to have a piece. The crown is to be k. D. is hard to get healthy. Will it be harden is going to be kawai who's been unbelievable back to the air ball to three and it looks like they're gonna collapse again at the end of the game airballs three and he didn't have a good game at lucas clearly. The best player on either team yokoi. What's up forty five points on crazy shooting and then follows that up. Twenty eight ten and nine on ten fifteen from the field and his team wins both games and he accepts the responsibility of guarding guarding luca. Making his life difficult more often in the last two games kawai finished sixty forty ninety not fifty forty nine hundred sixty forty ninety two hundred points in the series the only the only players with at least two hundred points and a sixty forty split meaning field goal three pointer and free throw percentage ever in the playoffs in the history of the playoffs bernard king kareem abdul jabbar and shack. And now koei so right now katie. Looks like he's the dude man the day before that it looked like kawai and yokich chad some games the about to be the mvp where maybe it's yokich. And luca has maybe. It's luca though he's not going to have a chance to prove it. Now if push comes to if i had to guess i'd say katie. Ob the guy. When the smoke clears. That i believe has the ba- has a piece of lebron's title because his team's going to win the whole thing and he's the best player on the team if i think hardens the most important player in originally. I said he was gonna win finals. Mvp but what. Katie is showing now with kyrie and blake is that they have enough. And that's the thing about blake. What i'm getting back to my original point. What if it's blake versus the clippers. Get there and blake has a chance for revenge like an underrated storyline. Before we go to the good your hotline. We have a call on the one. Eight hundred snitch hotline. Apparently what's up roj. Yeah i hate the do it. Because he's like fan but you know perks. Hit me up every anytime. Come on so we had them scheduled to come on yesterday. Ready talk some. Hoops chop it up with them and the second tv. Or someone called. rachel nichols or or jefferson cau- stumps us like just dumpsters building along with me. I'm busy now. Types of messed up brother. So kendrick perkins. I think he's scared him off the hotline. Roj where are you. Oh i know. I didn't get that type of wealth and they rise you something else man you get mashes rubbing alcohol you writing up. Its fax tax. you know what. Why don't don't distract you. Don't i'm telling you don't look do not follow max kellerman okay. We're good. i listen. I said called me on at any time. Look rising max. Y'all had me on once every three weeks. I don't know when when you got going to invite me all to ride. Imagine you're supposed to be on at least once a week. It's up roj. Yeah but i mean once a week. I mean i mean you want me to start turning cartwheels. 'cause i'm all once a week. Well that's a good point. Why do we only have once a week when i've been demanding. He's on more than once a week. Raja because when you say we have marcus spears on. There's a weight limit and then we can exceed. Hey y'all not right today man. I'm telling we sensitive outweight. Raj is not only you know a superstar. Mba analyst. He's an nba champion. Would you play fourteen seasons in the league perk. I mean it's the great kendrick perkins don't distract. 'cause i could've sworn dude went by the name kendrick perkins tried to tell me the bucks are going to beat the nets. Perk didn't even have hardening games one or two. They beat them. I think they're still scoring on him somewhere. what happened. yeah. I i tell you what happened is that i broke my code and i saw listening to everybody else and following the train you know to try and and i was begging plea last year. Not play everybody not to hop ball. When everybody was talking about he are an mvp. And i kept telling you. Oh he's not that he's not really a mvp type level player. He's not gonna perform in the play offs. Everybody was telling me about a great of with the years and he's gonna win the player of the year and they gave him that award knowing there was supposed to be anthony davis and so i felt for it. I saw this year. That yanni started hitting a few jump shots. And then i'm like oh okay janas in elevators game and here we are again back to the same damn conversation that we had been in the last two years. Yeah he got that. Batman got me one that he got me once a couple years ago you know like he had a great first series and he was up to oahu hawaii and then he collapsed. He's not he doesn't he can't shoot and he doesn't have enough support. Perk is what. I'm saying i liked to cut of drew holidays jeb. You know all that stuff but but the fact of the matter is true. Holidays not a future hall of famer. Christmas is not a future hall of famer. k d's got kyrie and harden when he's healthy and blake griffin's healthy and he's got hall of famers everywhere you look how to the bucks match up well first of all. Let's let's why you trying to address what i said about my peak to my prediction. Let's address you real by bringing up all day. You mrs james harden is the guy. Mr james harden is the one that makes this brooklyn. That's team right now. Is running perfectly. Well without james lord right now you know what else. What else happening. Let me tell you this and then my my sounds crazy to you right now and when you get home and you're eating your denno. Whatever you say you plan on what you get home tonight and you think about what i say the best thing that probably happened for the knicks. And i'm not saying i wish entering going to. What is james. horton being out. You know why they're florida's eating new. Now it may kevin durant elevate his game even more and now we get to see not only kevin durant score but we get to see kevin durant a facilitator. We read heaven to read your defender and now guess what for the brooklyn nets instead of having james harden not trying to defend one of those guys. You got bruce brown. Who's getting a lot of minutes. That's that's junkin it up. That's mixing it up. So now the whole dynamic and now the whole mess identity has changed because of the personnel. But i'm not gonna let you off the. Oh that's that's a good nice. Try perk the nets. And i if the nets are healthy no one will take them seven games. Not the box. Not the lakers. The sixers taking them seven. You pick the bucks and you have to come on. it's safe. I'm not gonna let me slide. No no max. That's fine and i'm okay with that. All i'm telling you is that i just want to hear the praises of kevin no doubt locked in from you. Is james nissen. Jane ken an nba analyst. Max kellerman show espn radio. You're you're right about me saying that about harden i believe that about harden but you know what i think happens. You're right to save kevin durant facilitator. We saw this even against toronto right. Before the achilles went at his height and his willingness to pass and his efficiency he can make an offense run really well even with his passing like to is is great. He's unbelievably great. No doubt but what. I've noticed in this series. Is they still have a big three perc eighteen and fourteen or something like that and then followed it up. He didn't put up the numbers but the way he dunked on. Y- honest tells me. Oh wait a minute. that's still present. Mex- cut it out. Look i'm not taking anything from blake griffin. He did what he was supposed to do. And he played well at home like role players. Do i keep preaching and telling you this role. Players played well at home. The crowd gets them into it. They make the hustle plays. They have games outside of their body when the rope live. Get on the road. Let's see this. The same blake griffin you acting like a lakes never been star. He's been a star i. I'm not saying that max. But i'm saying he's not a star right now. He's the role flip. He's a rope. Lynn spurs in under carry urban and kevin durant. Now when they get to milwaukee on thursday we know what katie and kiranas gonna do. We know that because superstars gonna be superstars whether they're home on the road the role plans but it seen on the road is going to beat it. sign factor. whether it's a visiting team take home of big okay. That's what i'm trying to explain to you. You remember the game. Six against the dallas mavericks. The clippers win. That dropped forty five. You know who had twenty five to uplift the clippers. Reggie jackson aerob- lift. He stepped up when it matters the most which we rarely see happening. Do you think blake griffin could go into milwaukee and get your eighteen and fourteen on the wrong. Yeah i think blake the way. He's i'll tell you why perk he was once a superstar or the next thing to it and it wasn't because he could shoot or his passing or anything like that. It was that he physically jump out the gym and he could play ball right so what. I saw the reason very high on them. Right now is not only the numbers. He put up as a role player in games in game. One but physically what he looked like when he put jaanus on a poster last night. 'cause if blake can jump out to jim then that's blake griffin and you can't pretend if it's blake griffin that's a star player. So that's what i'm saying. Player makes blake and also was a franchise split in house. Because i mean you. Tell me that. I mean i showed flash in the play. Offs also is well my playoff career. Why has sixteen points eighteen rebounds and seven seven blocks in a game. I show flashes of yet a i was sore but i was still a role player. But if you have this is my point perk. If you haven't dude who's physically still capable of doing what he did. When he was a star and blake showed the last two games. He is as a role player. You have an embarrassment of riches. And what's going to happen when harden gets back. And you're starting five is hardening kyrie and joe harrison blake and k d. Who's stopping make. You know you know what you know what i just want. You rides to bring me back on friday okay. Yeah back on. Friday after games three. And let's revisit this conversation. Okay roj here perk. He's volunteering to come on this week again. So i want you to list your kendrick perkins as only as much as once a week ban to get him on again. He's a big media star. Now you should see his youtube numbers. Everything per touch has got the midas touch. So you bring bringing back. He's offering lift the ban. Roj free perk report. I'm gonna say yes. But if but if i say yes. And he says he's coming on and then we can't reach you. And behold i turn on the jump and near year's vaccine loquacious lee about how the three perk roj three perk because we don't pay anything to do this. That's why it's free turkey. Take what you can get if he's volunteering. If he comes on great if he doesn't we'll get him next time done that's burqas great kendrick perkins ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much perk. Always appreciate it when you jump on. 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Xm channel eighty lakers fans a couple of pieces away from getting back to the finals. Eighty eight say. Espn eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven six. Any of the max. Kellerman show today talked about naked singularities and kevin durant. And what else and i talked about. Lebron james aaron rodgers played all the hits. So what you really should do is wherever you get your podcast. Go and you download the max kellerman show and i don't care if you listen or not. Even i just want credit for the download. Rob pelinka said. That shooting is at the top of the lakers minds during the offseason quote. You have enough shooting. It's something that always at the top of our mind when we're building and constructing a roster. I think it's important to part of successful. Shooting is having special players to create the shooting space and for us that comes primarily from lebron. Anthony you bring up this series but when you take someone like anthony out of some of the games it changes the space shooting success and everyone knows. Lebron talked about it last night. We knew we had it. We had high ankle sprain. That would probably not be until the offseason one hundred percent. But i think the success of our shooting is driven by those guys creating space because of the things we faced with injuries. Some of that space is altered. Oh there's no question that that's true. Of course that's true. The lakers have enough shooting with lebron. Ad both healthy to get out the west. Yes they do. I agree with rob pelinka but not to brooklyn. You're going to need more much more to beat brooklyn like look daryl. Morey showed up in philly. And you blink in there. Seth korean and danny green and i understand that daddy. Green was kind of expensive for the lakers. And when you're giving lebron in a deal that and you want more dynamic younger player than rondo. Although you're you'd hope like you were hoping at a time shooter shop in the playoffs. He didn't rondo. Did shooter didn't. But i get why you let danny green go. Though he can defend and shoot you can really three indeed. But you didn't replace. Danny green. And seth curry and you didn't replace. You didn't pick up a guy like seth curry there were guys like luke nardin shamet and curry can really shoot and their guys like that available every offseason pelinka will have a chance to pick up some real shooters in this offseason. Not some. there's a difference between three and guys by reputation or three point shooters by reputation and other volume shooters and their shouf. Thirty six percent thirty seven percent from three and real shooters because on a team with lebron shooter is going to be better by just thirty. Six thirty seven percent with lebron at thirty eight thirty nine percent shooter. But when you get real shooters guys who are better than forty percent even with volume from three spot up guys who can often create their own shot or they'd be stars right but guys who can spot up lebron's going to get them wide open. Looks especially on a team with anthony davis because defense is have to do something to stop. Those guys and lebron is a basketball genius will get him wide open. Looks but now pelinka's gotta go construct a roster and again it's not about getting out of the west healthy lebron d. I agree with rob pelinka. They'd gotten out of the west. It's about dealing with them. Boys in brooklyn those nets. Oh my god. What are you going to do. richard in manhattan. You're on the max keller show. Espn radio max. With the island is and the nets. Fine for championships. Okay it got me thinking again in the history of the four major sports the history except for the new york nets in the aba. Yup the brooklyn dodgers in nineteen fifty five and the new york islanders in the early eighties. Every ten team or franchise that's won a championship celebrated in a major city or city. I can't think of any other franchise that wasn't associated with the city. Now the same thing will happen this time if brooklyn wins it. They're going to celebrate in brooklyn and the island. Is we celebrate on long island. Can you think of any other franchise in any of the four major sports throughout the history that is celebrated that hasn't celebrated in a city. Well brooklyn was the ford. If you ever watched welcome back kotter. Right and i think you actually probably the principal of the school but if you ever watched welcome back kotter the fourth largest city in america at one point brooklyn sick city as a city within a city celebrated downtown brooklyn in nineteen. Sixty here. what you're saying is listen as usual. Richard you bring up an interesting point. Though it's i don't know who else is thinking of that point but Brooklyn is like take philadelphia. Philadelphia is brooklyn if there was no manhattan brooklyn's basically like philly but it's in new york city but it has its own identity. I understand what you're saying when you say the four major sports there's a big difference between the economy as a reflection of fan interest. You know football basketball baseball and hockey. It's a little bit of a stretch over the last or at any point in in the united states to call hockey one of the four major if there are three major sports and if you want include a fourth as a team sport it would be hockey. Although i don't know what hockey's economy is compared to college football or college basketball coming up last week. Is your take them. Going to get two calls. More than just richard eight say. Espn eight eight eight seven to nine. Three seven seven six. 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Here last take eighty eight say. Espn eight eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven six last take is brought to you by dell for your small business needs call adele technology advisor today at eight seven seven. Ask del you heard. I take good to hear your voice by out here. Throwing down here matches last week Right get to this year. Dan is by the way. If you name it should be like. You should have the destroyer as your last name old and the destroyers and take sacks as love the show. I love your show. I love you and i kate s. I'm calling from israel now actually I live in new york. But i'm in israel study. Yeah so my question for you was With the results from last night and in the playoffs nuts you could see even without their debatably. The best player james harden. They're still dominating there being a two second best or third best team in the east easily by forty points. You think that the nba should take steps to avoid like such super teams like. There's even better than lebron. I would say super duper teams are a problem when players essentially conspire to play with each other. The problem is not an issue. Like i don't know the problem is an issue of incentive. What k. d. realized is that if you're on a great team if your team mates are great to super great like an mvp caliber player. If he gets with many great teammates the perception of him will change imagine of k. d. never went to golden state. He still wouldn't have a championship right and we'd be thinking of them differently. Well katie can't lead a team to a title but because he to the best team ever. He's got to finals. Mvp's and now he's on brooklyn new best team ever going to get another one and the whole perception of changed so players are incentivized to seek out. You know real recognize real. Great players are incentivized to seek out other great players to play with. What do you do to stop that. And then the issue is like a super team is fine. Whatever a super-duper team meeting team that can't lose is something else and lebron super team with him. Dwayne wade and bosh k. d. one optum. He's like oh you think that's something. I'm not gonna put team together. I'm simply going to join a seventy three win team. A seven foot sniper. Who can defend five positions is going to get to. The wreck is going to join a seventy three win team and the only thing they really lost andrew. Bogut get outta here. There's nothing you can do anti competitive chris in atlanta. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio. I miss the They finish show and listening to your box one recently as well big fan of that. Thank you brother so yeah So my question is so with the first round. What made the knicks hawk series. So entertaining was in my opinion. The rise of the super villain and trae. He really just leaned into that role. I'm became you know. Hated new york. They still hate him today. Taking a bow on center court kicking their teams but by twenty you know you just rose up to the occasion and what made that zone attaining. You know having that bad guy to root against the knicks. Sure so my question. Is you know how important is it for the nba. You know in terms of entertainment value to have arrived on what you're talking about. His rival rivalries where. They're not afraid to really go at each other and each other's fan base. Trae young is a perfect foil for a team like the knicks. But i think he's even better than that. But i totally look we understand. The world is human beings through storytelling. Even if there's some new scientific breakthrough that metaphors and they tell stories to explain it to us our brains processed information better that way and understand the world that way and we are interested in sports in so far as we're interested in the stories and you're only interested in stories and so far as you're interested in characters who are they. What do they want. What's the obstacle in their way and so a character like trae young for his own fan base. They love him. he's this little guys playing like steph. But maybe he'll be more clutch and kenny. Take the hawks and win a championship. One day or this year defy expectations. Maybe get to the eastern conference finals stuff like that. But for the teams playing him. He's the obstacle in the way. And who it's a formidable lobster formative obstacle because you can get to the paint. He can you see him. Hit floaters in hip free throws and draw fouls and hit from the outside from behind the arc create space for his teammates find his teammates with passes collapse the defense. And he's talking to you the whole time. You hate that guy don't you. Ooh that obstacle in the way that antagonised is a great one. If i think about like the greatest antagonists in the history of film right like darth vader or hannibal. Lecter were who's another great one clubber lang and rocky three. Yeah the obstacle. That's in the way should be scary and should be the guy you love to hate riley. Main you're on the max kellerman show espn radio. Hey max i was just wondering why. No one's talking about the the sons nuggets game you know everyone's been talking about the the nets and the the bucks game and we had chris. Paul dropped twenty one eleven assists almo- almost a triple double six rebounds. I agree i look. I thought the nuggets would win the series going in. I still think so. The sons have to defend home court. They did the nuggets are going to have to win a road game. We'll see if they can the sons of a great crowd. Great six men. We're talking about on. I take today. Chris paul his sense of timing in the game what his team needs from him. And when they need it is uncanny. He's an all time. Great deondraye eight and it's been a revelation because he was the biggest question mark on the team coming into the season number one overall pick can't call him a bust even in a draft with luca and trae young still. He's done his thing. But what you're getting from chris. Paul and devon booker in the back court even on paper before the season began. And you knew mikhail bridges and crowder and cam johnson. These guys you you know what roles are going to have and you think they can perform them. You know at the level. You anticipate you didn't know about eating what's going to happen when he gets to the playoffs and has to face a d. o. Ate very well. What about yokich he even made. Yokich is passing game for yokich. And you'll chat to expend energy on the other end of the court know the sons. I liked them in the preseason a lot they are real and they are a threat to get out of the west. There's no two ways about it by the way but now they're gonna eventually like they got sent home court the godwin game too because denver's hard place to play at altitude that they both these teams have real home. Court advantages marquees in new york. You got thirty seconds. Hey mac marci from new york Niagara falls new york. Actually i wanted to talk about The talking about the clippers and see what you thought and see is gonna be able to do it you know he's been playing phenomenal but i don't know if he's going to be able to keep this high pace of play and up i well. He's done it a couple of times before finals. Mvp if he does it this time if winds up finals mvp does he have the crown. Max kellerman show espn radio. Mexico until the podcast. Do you own or rent your home show you do. Fortunately gyco makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. 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Hour 2: Is That Going To Be Enough?

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Hour 2: Is That Going To Be Enough?

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Max ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire this is the max kellerman show kellerman show on. Espn radio guest. The max kellerman show on espn radio and espn plus also check me out on the espn app and siriusxm channel eating so much to get into this weekend. Eighty eight say espn eight seven to seven seven six. The max kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance horn. Sounds the clippers survive and advance. The cooper's could easily win the whole thing. They're that good. I'm the clippers are on the utah taking out dallas for the second straight year. Now people were questioning kawhi after not only falling in the second round last year denver after barely getting by the mavericks reason they got by the mavericks. Porzingas got hurt last year. Otherwise they lose to the mavericks in the first round last year. And then you know game was it five airballs a corner. Three with the game on the line could've send it to overtime. It looked bad right but kawhi went bananas by the end of this series. Kawhi shots percent from the floor and scored over two hundred points for the series in history of the nba. Kareem did it. Bernard king was incredible. Scorer kids if you don't know before he got hurt with the knicks back in the day after the great knicks teams. He was like the lone bright spot but he was. What a bright spot. If you ever see spike lee's she's gotta have it one of the arguments he was having in in the movie was you know. Larry bird's the best player in the nba. Who's trying to argue for bernard king which wasn't true. But that's how highly people thought of bernard king back then and shack. That's it sixty percent from the floor. Two hundred points in a playoff series shack and kareem. Who are taking shots. Real close to the basket bernard king. And that's it history of basketball pretty good especially since quite agree. Two way player. Great defender so much was going on so cousteau clippers advanced. They have a chance to hang their first ever. second round. Banner lakers fans lakers fans. Don't make fun sure. The lakers have seventeen championship banners hanging from the rafters at staples but the clippers. They've never hung in the history of their franchise never into a western conference finals so they specialize in occasionally hanging first round playoff. It's not even a ribbon you get to hang the ribbons. And they're hoping for a second round playoff. It's it's like a pennant not not a banner. Exactly more than a ribbon hoping to hang their first second round playoff a pennant. Ever the clippers. Don't make fun lakers fans so much. The by the way the nets without james harden beat the bucks the sixers doc rivers really intractable in his route. Latino has to play those bench players as a unit all bench players goes eleven deep in the playoffs. Wastes a great effort by embiid. They fall down. Wanted the hawks trae young goes off especially in the first half. Luca by the way against the clippers is fantastic but porzingus isn't feeling like he's reduced to a role player he says. Yeah but that's you know he's hurt constantly and by the time he gets back he's not quite what he was. And why would you take the ball out of lucas hands. Anyway right so so much going on. And i didn't even get to. I'm mean i. it's like dizzying. How much stuff happened this weekend. Let's start with the clippers. I didn't even get to. Julio jones straight gotta get into mayweather and logan paul. Let's start with the clippers coli on his confidence in game seven just because you played great in whatever. Nine game sevens meam figuring gantan. Nobody's darcy solid bought. The moment you know sometimes overconfident. You play bad. Sometimes when you're down so you play good like i said for me. It's about folks in a moment adding fine and You know playing by our basketball you know doesn't is not like the greatest bad shot maker of all time but he doesn't take for the most part bad shots takes really good shots officials and by the way was hooking up teammates game seven two. He was the best player on the floor in game. Seven and that included luka doncic but you know what who's the best player in the world lebron will not have these playoffs to prove it. Is he finally slowing down. I was a couple years early. Maybe when he missed the playoffs the other year. And i said the same thing. He's not gonna have the playoffs to prove that he's still the best. Now it's why. I was proven wrong the next year however maybe now is when the bronze finally slowed up to the point where we can ask questions. Is it kevin durant except play defense like a used to heal accept tough defensive assignments but he just can't play the defense before the achilles injury right now so is it durant will some nights. It is when it's not james harden who's out with a hamstring again member to kick them out twenty games plus last time earlier in the season. Feels like you just got back boom. He's out again and seeing. How is it eight. Eighty with the growing. I guess not when he came back and he was healthy is dropping forty two and stuff and seventeen fifteen whatever. It wasn't beating the sons without lebron. Maybe it is eight. And then he's out again and l- hardens out and and these defense is not the same and lebron's out and who's the best player in the world one nine. That's why but one night. It's luca they're like six or seven days a week and probably around seven players. Who on any given night on monday. It's luke on. Tuesdays lebron wednesday. It's on thursday. it's k. d. on friday it's harden they all have a case right now and speaking of hardin if he's out by the way the bucks you got when hardens out. You got to win. if he's out can blake griffin be. The third cog in a big three. Max kellerman show presented by progressive insurance and harden his on his way to the brooklyn locker. I wonder if he hurt himself you wishing just him a speedy recovery bill tonight. I mean this guy was so ready and exciting to play tonight. Coach steve nash. Give me an update on the mri the mri and hardens hamstring. Showed it to be honest with you. Tightness and most importantly is he's out for the next game so we're preparing for tomorrow night as as we ended up playing last night. And and that's our focus. You know for james you know. We obviously are desperate for him to return and he's a huge piece of what we do in our team. But at this point. I think it would be all guesswork to to really understand. You know he's had such a little. You know up and down recent history with it that it's really hard to predict and so let's hope for the best but i can't really say anything to predictive or to defend it in right. Now let me make a prediction. He ain't gonna play if it took them twenty plus games last time he had the same injury and we just saw what happened when he d had it. They tried to rush him back even play especially if they go to if they beat the bucks tonight they go to without harden who. They're playing with house money. Think about the the nets steve. Nash was mike d'antoni i muse as a point guard. Right like mike. D'antoni gets a guy. Who buys like jeremy lin can take up a solid player and turn them into a great player steve. Nash was an excellent player. One to mvp's running dantonio system then did tony. D'antoni got hardened who's even better and hardens perennial. Mvp candidate and they have d'antoni on the bench so between nash dantonio harden. No one understands that system better than those three guys. Those three understand that they had like one of them invented it. One of them ran it to near perfection. The next guy ran veteran heated right. They're all in the same squad now. Head coach coordinator kind of and star and the weapons. They're deploying in the service of all that or k. d. and kyrie your four options. Joe harris one's beating the nets. But if they don't have harden maybe someone is of course maybe that's where blake griffin comes in couldn't dunk a ball for a year and a half in detroit and he was the difference last night the the he does detroit money. I'm sorry like come on logan in arkansas. You're on the max kellerman show espn radio. Hey max Real quick lebron looked content with just having that lakers jersey on or other than leading them. That team On the court and trying to to get a couple of wins when when we know is out he just the team in my opinion followed The way he carries himself on the court he looked disinterested at times and aggressive very passive. Let me just say one thing. Logan because you hit on a pet peeve of mine disinterested because people use interchangeably with uninterested has come to be accepted in some quarters as uninterested. It's actually not what that means and there's no excuse to use it because you can use the word uninterested so disinterested no matter. What anyone says doesn't work this interested means you. You're not your objective. It means like a scientist is disinterested. They don't have a rooting interest. One way or another uninterested is what you mean. And i have to disagree with you about lebron being uninterested. I think lebron on a hurt ankle was the whole team was discombobulated by a d. starting net game but clearly be barely being able to move so defensively chris. Paul was funneling everything to whoever ad was on and they were getting whatever they wanted. Offensively couldn't give you anything. And then the whole team had to adjust without the game because he came out early and it took him about a half to do it and in the second half. Lebron actually came on like gangbusters on a bad ankle. I can't say. I think something like we're reading too much into body language. If you think libron lebron was still very effective player on a bad ankle without a d. In the game they just didn't have enough and by the way when the other team has chris. Paul that comeback. Lebron maybe can make it gets short-circuited right because chris. Paul hits a couple of dagger threes and that can deflate. You floyd mayweather logan. Paul took place either. A match edited. Edits espn eight hundred. Seven two nine three seven seven six look either matchup has it or it doesn't it has something that makes you wanna see it if you tell me a. Let's see. A grizzly bear is fighting a tiger. I want to see it. Roj captures the imagination by the way assault. One tiger wins a saltwater crocodile against like a tiger shark can be a great white. But you see what i mean. Let me get a match up where i'm like. Oh that's interesting. Floyd may would have so much smaller than logan poll and is so much older and past his prime. Now did i think. Logan paul had a chance. No i didn't but what was intriguing about it. Was that you like floyd. Mayweather is one of the purest boxers who ever lived. You get to see him practice the craft again and you get to seem to basically in a safe environment right because logan paul not gonna be able to hit him. And and meantime you get to see. What logan paul can do against one of the slickest boxers of all time with a guy with one semi professional fight. Guess what logan paul gave him. The bum's rush threw a million punches actually connected with a few employed. New look is he. He's inexperienced guy. He's going to be gassed because it doesn't matter. What kind of shape you're in when you're that nervous tense. Because of the big event in everything about a flight floyd mayweather. You're gonna gas early in floyd knew that. And so then he started picking off shots and kind of doing what he wanted but in the question was well logan paul last distance and he did. You've got to feel good about that. And floyd put on a show. It's an exhibition like it's not even buyer. Beware what did you want from this. You want logan to go to the hawk like did you want here is an exhibition. Apollo crews fighting von drago. You want that kind of experts. You want someone in the hospital for an exhibition or you want to see paul. A floyd mayweather put on a show against a big young kid was a huge following and is very game gets into great shape and very game so floyd put on a skills show and logan put on a heart show. I don't know i was pretty entertained. And by the way the undercard was good. Arias against scored the upsetting has heard. co single. It can move around pretty well by the way you know why real quick you know why ocho cinco got knocked down. It was because he was boxing pretty well and he got hit with a wild shot. Did not come from an angle. That a guy who's boxing. Another boxer would expect to get hit with. That's why you got knocked out. It's actually a credit to ocho cinco. What's up man this whole match here. Max i was watching with people who never before paid a gutter pay per view in boxing. Right they never knew they asking all kinds of questions they wanted to know for you know allergies and this and that but there were people. You're just getting the casual fan general public to view to tune into this and i'm all for it. They were paying. Yeah it's an exit and if you weren't entertaining like that's not worth the money. Don't buy the next one. The next one kind of like this is jake. Paul logan's brother fighting tyron woodley. Who's lost four fights in a row but can strike and is a very experienced fighter at a very high level. So if you weren't if you didn't like don't buy the next one. Guess who is me. I don't know there are some matchups where it's ding ding around one. And you must see and you must see it live. You want to hear about what happens. It's what's happening right then in the world it's immediate and floyd had that with logan porn. Floyd created an event. Like that. And jake paul and tyron woodley. You're going to create the same kind of event whether you like it or not. And if you're like i'm not gonna let them sucker me that. Who are you hurting. You're hurting yourself. If it's something you have an impulse you're interested in then be interested. Let yourself be interested in it. Well there are too many real fighters waiting in line who never got the opportunity that taken an opportunity from these real fighters floyd's not boxing professional fighters not a professional anymore. And what opportunity are they taking. What do you think there's a date on. Espn that they're using up now. They're creating event in an event out of nothing. They're bringing their own audiences. I don't see why. Boxing people are bent out of shape about this at all scott nevada. You're on the max. Keller show espn radio. Hey max not to take anything away from the hawks. But i thought they played great yesterday but the sixers do hang their hat on defense and not turning the ball over two things. They didn't do very well. Especially in the first half. Whereas in the second half like you're talking about putting on trae young. Which i think is a great idea of vincent to tiki tax at the beginning of the second half with really limited him matisse come in and really actually do pretty well against trigger which i think that a big Thing to do in this series against trae young. This is why the sixers. Why the sixers. If they're healthy pose the biggest threat to the nets. they've not gonna beat the nets because students doesn't shoot well enough and that does create certain strategic problems but simmons and viable both defend so well at their size especially and embiid also and there's no answer for him in the post. Wh what are the mets going to do. With your body's adam. The andre jordan to claxton blake griffin. Good luck that. At least the sixers have the best shot. No one really has a shot to win. But the sixers have a shot to compete. And when i say nobody has a shot to win that's presuming hardens healthy. And they play enough that they get their defense together at least some semblance of together. Meantime atlanta falcons actually make the move polit- trigger on a julio jones trade and they trade him to tennessee falcons got a twenty two second round. Pick a twenty twenty three fourth round. Pick the titans also get not only. Julio jones but atlanta's sixth round selection titans deals pending a physical. So look julio jones who's set to make fifteen point three million in two thousand twenty one and the rest of the titans pick up the falcon now seven and three quarter million dollar a dead descend three-quarter seven and three quarter of million dollars in dead money. This year is what. I'm trying to say in english. So here's here's my analysis of this situation right now. Julio jones will find out about your quarterback. That's why. I wanted to see him with the ravens right lamar. I think you can do it if you had more. Dynamic receiving target. And here's julio jones. Let's see if lamar really has it at the next level. But what he did was. He can't really choose who you root for. I don't mean your own team. I mean like you're just watching a game between two teams that you don't really have a rooting interest in and you find yourself rooting for one of them. For whatever reason it tells you something about the situation. Julio jones told me something about ryan. Tannehill that i didn't even know i thought i was always on. Tv stumping for ten. He's underrated he's a bubble. Mvp candidate and this and that and now he gets julio jones to go with aj brown. That's best receiving tandem in the league. He's got derrick. Henry running the ball. He's got a good at least run blocking offensive line. And i don't believe in the titans and it's because i don't think ten quite good enough. It's not like the old days where good enough quarterback was good enough. You really need a weapon at quarterback. Now patrick mahomes. And tom brady met in the super bowl and aaron rodgers and josh allen and these guys are trying to stop them and you know here comes joe burrow and of course trevor lawrenson and who i think of my favorite guy in In san diego in los angeles come on adjusted. Herbert justin herbert's like an unbelievable talent. Russell wilson uc unbelievable talent throughout the league antenna hills not enough final thick. Eighty eight say. Espn eighty seven to nine. Three seven. six. I wouldn't even when you think about the buffalo bills. Why do you like the bills. Maybe it's because they also have other good stuff. Great receiver a defensive coach. But then in josh allen. You think have a little something extra quarterback in even if you don't think baker mayfield really gives you extra over ryan tannehill. The browns have a better offensive line. It was number one rated run blocking and pass protection number one in both. that is rare. They have a defense and defense. It's getting better returning injured. Starters who weren't as effective last year available last year. Returning those guys bree williams and these guys and also adding jadeveon clowney to myles garrett on the other side denzel ward everybody and then you have you know how okay. Well the falcons were getting. Julio jones well guess what. The browns are getting odell beckham. Junior to jarvis landry well and they have derrick henry in tennessee. The browns nick chubb and kareem hunt so even if baker mayfield is not josh allen or lamar jackson or someone like that. The browns have more than tennessee. Have i mentioned guests. Join me on the goodyear hotline yet. Here what current laker magic. Okay raji needs to put some punctuation here what current laker magic johnson says doesn't have that winning mentality this weekend see to sixty three is sure to be a can't miss event every punch kick knockout means so much more with draftkings lineup draftkings. The official daily fantasy partner of the ufc is giving you shot at huge cash prizes. For this weekend's fight draft kings is offering all customers shot it millions of dollars in total prizes. It's easy just six fighters standard the salary cap pile. Point advances take downs at. 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Espn eight seven nine. Three seven seven six one boxer was lebron and the other a d. And then in the other there was who else could it be on that well. Let's say kobe. And then on the other box. Schreuder jerry west kareem abdul-jabbar shaquille o'neal dennis schroder. The max kellerman show on. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance progressive. Homequote explorer gives you multiple quote options. So you can pick what's right for you see for yourself at progressive dot com. Get right down to it. We got you covered. Let me tell you what i know. And let me say we're gonna play no doubt and they're gonna take your calls. Eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six eighty eight say. Espn what's up and you still on my shine till autumn dump stories man. Hey listen you agree with magic johnson. Saying as you just mentioned the after mitchell. Schreuder isn't a laker. he doesn't quote. he doesn't have that winning mentality. You agree max nas on. He's not a true champion. I don't know if he doesn't have that winning mentality. he might wanna win. You just may not be capable of it you know like i. I don't wanna doubt shooters mentality. He may just not have it when it matters most in. Oh there's there's some guys who they want it too bad. There are other guys who just get nervous. It's not that they don't want it is that they get nervous. But whatever reason choke is a choke and shooter choked period what else. Hey the titans now. With julio jones are super bowl contenders son. You know the reason i. It's hard to call them pretenders because on paper they have what they need. I know that ten hills underrated. I've made the case recently. But why do i like the bills. More than the titans. Because they have a quarterback with real next level upside in josh allen. Why seattle always winning. Because they have russell wilson. I'm not even talking about patrick. Freakin mahomes or aaron rodgers. I mean just quarterbacks with a hill to me is just a real good pro starting. Nfl quarterback but not extra. And i don't think this is even like bill for one you i manning. Well i don't think you could do that anymore like that. I think you really need a special quarterback nowadays. So i guess my way of saying i don't believe in tannehill art. Hey max got a birthday in the house all right. Happy birthday to prince jackson sitting there. Yes prince's no longer with us of our younger people don't know who's with us or not anymore but hey philly max doesn't appreciate princes music no doubt i can. I may have to change that nas on. Let me say that. I'm going talk. I'll tell you why reshi eight that it's good. I appreciate the prince's talented but that's different than me enjoying the music. It prints music just hit me. You know like it's none knock against prince or by the way it's not against me either like music choose it's it either. Hits you or it. Doesn't i like it i recognize. Let me give an example. Breaking bad was very well done show. I can acknowledge it was very well done. It wasn't for me. Matter of fact. I watched breaking bad until the fifth season and then stopped like a couple episodes left on it. Just don't care. I don't care about the characters just doesn't hit right. Sprints just didn't hit me that unlike bruce springsteen who everyone loves. And it's like i don't even think the music is good. I love bruce springsteen. I love everything about him and everything he stands for. I just don't like his music. Period is not like that for me. It just doesn't really hit me. Okay all right fair enough. Do you like purple rain. Yes or no. Yeah a good so i think a lot of the movie. The movie the movie. I don't think i ever saw purple rain the movie. Oh goodness gracious get off the show anyway. All right last one. You're finally max. Kellerman is finally ready to give up on his man crush for kristaps porzingis on who only kristaps aleksei like that on who. I don't know what you're talking about. Raj come on you. Ready to give kristaps. Porzingis is is a case of a guy who's careers been victimized by injury. He had a chance to be a great player and he seven foot. He's a string bean he could. His body would not cooperate and the and now that affects his development because every year he has to spend the entire year getting back to where he was the year before so we never progressed. You know by third season with the knicks. Like oh my god. He's a defensive game changer. The whole offense on the other team changes when he's in the game and he would just scratching the surface of as an offensive player so if he stays healthy he gets to progress year over year. Never did and so. 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What's up what's it going weekend. You know getting swept by the tigers. Taking two out of four against the raise. Getting swept by the red sox. Yeah we that's really need a center fielder and a first basement and heck of white are out the panic button. What are we freeze. Lemay hyun gleyber torres store hitting for power right like that. They can't score runs this team. I don't know what happened. The laurent's brett gardner a little long in the tooth can't score runs. Have i mentioned what the can't do score runs randy in florida. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio y'all max. I'm completely interested and uninterested in hear anybody. Talking about men's soccer should only be talking about women's soccer. They need love any weight. And the next thing i want to say. Dominique wilkins had a better career was a better player than chris. Mullin why was he not on the dream team. I actually think at the time of the dream team. Dominique was didn't hit. He did he already have the achilles and that he came back from he may have already happened. I'm forgetting the chronology a little bit but was a little past it. Mon was in his prime and at that point. Dominique was not considered one of the very best players in the league and mullen had size. Could shoot i get. Why molin was on that team at that time people were like. It's hard to put yourself back in a certain era and remember how good someone was like. Kevin johnson member guard. But like are. You can't compare you know kevin johnson. Some some hall of fame point guard yet is best. You could chris mom one of those type dudes at his best. He was a great player. Seattle and a wait seattle mike in washington seattle. Mike is that right seattle. Mike that you that correct max. What else what. He got seattle mike. Thanks me on. Hey i love watching you do all these other sports. But i started you primarily for boxing. I wanna talk about the lightweight. Division all the talent there tia fema lopez ryan garcia devon. Haney so many young undefeated boxers. Yeah can we make this anything like a division and this is in popularity like back in the day with duran. Leonard fights gotta make the fights ryan garcia has has a huge social media. Following tank davis sells tickets. They're both very talented. They can punch fast hands like make the fights and people will get interested. You know why the four kings era with sugar. Ray leonard for some reason wilfred benitez never gets mentioned but should we let her tommy hearns. Roberto duran marvin hagler. It made the fights sugary letter. turn pro. He went to the seventy six olympic gold medal. By one thousand. Nine hundred seventy nine. He was fighting wilfred benitez for the welterweight title. The next year. Roberto duran twice the next year. He fought tommy hearns killers. One after another. You make the fights you get fans you don't make the fights you don't get fancy devin. Haney survived some rocky moments very rocky moments where he lenora but then box beautifully earlier in the fight wanna see fema lopez and devonshire. Wanna see tank davidson ryan garcia. Sure i'd like to see the winners fight each other. But the short term interest of promoters networks are killing the sport dr j. in hawaii. Oh ha hello dick. And bernard teen comment on magic winning time About schroeder saying he's not a winner and also that he's not a laker. And then i have. A bernard teasing. I wanna talk to you all right. Well i get it. Because schreuder for i don't think it's that he doesn't want it in sometimes guy wants it too much or sometimes guy just gets nervous and can't control is nerves yet. He needs more reps in a pressure situation to be able to control it. Shoes bad under pressure. They needed him. The question was when they got schreuder. Okay he's a young athletic player. Who can score but kenny score when you need it. Most in other words. A regular season upgrade over rondo but rondos playoff rondo for a reason contributor. Be playoff shooter. No no we can't be not. It's not that it can't be set. He hasn't been for the lakers. He had you know a series to do it in which he did not get it done. And what's the thing about bernard king. Hurry up nineteen eighty two I'm going to attempt to work out. Brad davis get to the gym. It's private not and i hear a basketball bouncing. Two guys. yelling at each other coach shows up. He's got a key. Kiwi go in its bernard king and world b free plane third game so a three full court one on one inch other jock trash talking back and forth for you could stay in the league. Yeah you got you gotta eat. Needed a camera phone for back. Then bernard king world b free full court. One it's too good to be true all right. We got a lot of sports to watch tonight guys. I'll be back tomorrow. Break it all down. Max kellerman show. Espn radio the podcast. Do you own or rent your home. 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Hour 1: Denver Flaccos

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Hour 1: Denver Flaccos

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Welcome to Spain. And fits the podcast. It's made infants I got a partner back at the flying solo yesterday Goff is back to hang out for Spain. And Jason golf with you on ESPN radio, the espionage type and Sirius XM channel eighty. I'm glad you're here. Because we have a lot of talk about. Well, I mean, I'm just always glad you're here. You're here radio Valentine this year. Oh, that's so nice. So I would say the same thing if I was hosting with Jason Fitz, and he would give you a giggly laugh and probably uncomfortable. He's all on gambler. And he is an uncomfortable. Hugger generally ask our men Travis behind the glass now are the hugs uncomfortable or the the approach or the length of the hug. Oh, see. Now. Learn stuff about his body. That is being pressed the race to. Yes. Yeah. It's a lover lover me too. I think it's a Jason thing to be honest with you. Yeah. We we were born with kings names. That's right. You ready to treat? Everybody the same right? You'll be on a show together, and you can hug it out. Hey, speaking of Fulla love the Broncos now that brought us way master are full of love apparently for Joe flacco, the trade that would send flacco to the Broncos can't officially be processed until the new league year begins March thirteenth. They can't even allegedly comment on the deal or the terms. In fact, according to our own Adam Schefter, they can't even discuss or agree on compensation until March and schefters hearing it would be amid round draft pick the fact that it can be reported and discussed right now, and that they have already agreed on something clearly means that they've had some backchannel conversations about what would be sent along with him. But you're you know, they have to pretend they have to keep up as though they aren't officially making this deal. But the most interesting part of this maybe is the fact that nobody seems to agree us to whether the guy they're getting is better than the guy. They already have and max Keller. Men was on. I take this morning. And he asked that very question was flacco in a fringe MVP candidate two years ago. No was flacco replaced by a quarterback. And then the team had much more success. Yes. What happened in Minnesota when they replaced case keenum with a quarterback who supposedly better? Actually, they went in the other direction. I think case keenum has a little Nick foles disease, or at least the sniffles whether or not he'll win you a Super Bowl. He seems to be a guy guys like playing with. I don't know team seemed to function better with him. So I'm not convinced flack goes better than keenum. But even if you say he is you see the kind of offense of weapons on Denver that are going to make a mediocre quarterback. Like flacco at this point in his career special. All of a sudden, all right? Let's let's start with the initial part of Max's comments. Do you see him as a Nick foles type as a guy that that teams play better for or get up for because we certainly didn't see that necessarily what the Broncos us year? No. I don't seem that. Let's be honest about it. I think Nick foles going to turn into a pumpkin at some point as well when it's all on him. And there's nobody coming to save the day like you can play like a backup for three or four games and wing it. And then when it's all on you. And maybe he turns back into the Nick foles that we saw before dark Petersen. But Joe flacco is a guy who a big arm. The thing that I don't like the most about is. If you have that big arm, you'd think this guy's going along every single chance he gets the guys yard per pass attempts were horrendous the last couple of years, and I don't know if I should be excited. If I'm a Broncos fan about a guy who got replaced by a guy who's spotty at best. Accuracy wise and has to run the football in his rookie year. Lamar Jackson Joe flacco had historic Super Bowl run. You know that was the year when when Ray Lewis is being credited for every single tackle ever made me while he what threw thirteen touchdowns and one interception and a playoff run in two thousand twelve and he got paid for it. And he's kind of the the test case of okay? This is what happens when you pay a quarterback that you. Kinda shore about not so much though. And then you strip away the pieces because of his money, and then he can't lift you to the next level. I'm not enthused about it. If I'm a Denver Broncos fan, if I'm Joe flacco, I'm happy to get out of Baltimore and get put on a new uniform and try this thing out. But in the end, this is not I don't think this is a great move for the Denver Broncos. And it says a lot about not only the market, but also about this Dr classes well Spain in Sarah Spain and Jason Goth ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Let's get to the end of what max said, which was also interesting the idea that you know, you could put any mediocre quarterback on that Broncos team. And there's not enough weapons to make them look better than mediocre any different than mediocre. So is it worth going and adding flacco as some upgrade, presumably over keenum. Or is are they sort of doomed not to be able to take advantage unless you can get in a real superstar quarterback? I don't like I don't like to fit. I mean, Vic Fangio is a defensive guy. And of course, they're going to keep going to they're going to try certain things out offensively. And he's going to check in on it. But he's not going to be doing offensive game planning out. I thought you would probably go with case keenum for another year. And then draft a quarterback or two thousand and twenty which they might have to draft a quarterback. Then as well. I the Broncos offense have been a mess. And I think John Elway has been a riding on the Peyton Manning. Find and also being John Elway for few years. Now, you you you give Joseph nothing, really. And then you say he he was the reason why we weren't winning. I mean, you've got injuries. You found a six round running back on drafted rookie running back who made it to the Pro Bowl and Philip Lindsay. But there's nothing on that team offense only that I think he can play above. Yeah. And I think part of the flacco thing is it's just a stopgap. Right. You are taking a quarterback that you brought in that you thought based on his. Form insz with the Vikings was going to significantly change your fortunes, he did not. And you replace them with a guy who was, you know, benched at another place. I don't know that. I mean, I guess the question is should they have waited and tried to go after a bigger name. Maybe Nick foles or a Bridgewater. I mean Bridgewater still such a question, Mark. Because we, but are there are there quarterbacks out there that you think they should have gone for versus making this deal. I don't I don't the question for me is make the dealer not. I think the question is what did you do to get here? Right. And and if John always is answering those questions you've got quite the resume for him, right then. And there I mean, you got Paxton Lynch you got Trevor sending me, and you got case keenum, you know, you've got a lot of people that Goss while as well you've got a lot of people who he has yet to cultivate, yet to develop or evaluate properly. I mean, I don't think anybody would say to themselves, you know, four or five quarterbacks when then we'll figure it out. No you trying to find the right guy. And also, the von Miller windows closing in terms of one of the generation league's best pass rushers. Yeah. I I've seen is fine. And and Bradley Chubb might be good. But you've had a guy who's who's played like Derrick Thomas for the last. You know, I'm, you know, seven eight nine years now, and you got a Super Bowl out of it with Peyton Manning. Who was you know, the Walking Dead pretty much at the end of his career. But you'd think you'd be able to capitalize understand that that what you had on the other side of the football. So I think more so than would you make the trade and not make the train. I think the real reality that's being realized not only by NFL people. But also by Denver Broncos fans, if they just, you know, stop bowing at the altar of John Elway for two seconds is that he cannot he can't evaluate the the position that made him famous, and and you know, the fan investment, I guess has been too deep there to understand that. I'm sure there's some fans who noticed it. But John Elway. Keep taking swings and misses at the quarterback position. Oh, I'm pretty sure everybody's noticed that I don't think that's slipped by anybody that that. Has thus far been terrible horrible at being able to scout. And decide the talent of quarterbacks. He brings to the team. Speaking of that. What do we make of the idea that superstars guys like Elway? Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky people who were the top of their game are not suited to be coaches and managers or GM's are historically not great at being able to see talent. And find the diamond in the rough were even identify the superstar among a handful of mediocre guys are better are you better off with a try hard Konin guy. A Steve Kerr Danny Ainge ago, a player that was good. But not great. Is there anything to that theory? I think we have a lot more cases of guys who are great at one thing and batted another whether it'd be talent evaluation or development of that talent, Wayne Gretzky, we talked about him during the pre show meeting is Thomas comes to mind. Pete Rose is in their Magic Johnson. Short coaching stint is in there. And now, we're we're he's on the clock in terms of being an executive. There's the old time guys like Ted Williams and those kind of dudes, but in the end, yes yourself, how many great players have actually had to do the job or wanted to do the job. Jerry West is the only one comes to mind who who was excellent on both the court and off the court in terms of personnel decisions. I believe les bird if I'm not mistaken when it coach of the year, but his heart really wasn't in coaching. He was he was a guy that wanted to be behind the scenes more so than anything. But there are very few instances where we can look at and say this player was a great player, and then turned into a great coach or talent evaluator. Let's end it to the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed at sarahspain at Spain. And fits at Jason one Gough. Who are we missing? What are we forgetting or backup? Our our thesis. Tell us that we're right named some more superstars at didn't didn't cut the Elgin. Baylor was bad. Right. And he was he was in a tough situation as we found out over the years. Denisa Varda Blackhawks that's another head. Let us know on the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed when we come back, by the way, Joel Embiid has been fined we'll tell you about that. Plus the three teams affected by this. Joe flacco deal Jason Goffin for spits. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Spain and Fitz Spain and fit sunny ESPN radio the SPN app and siriusxm channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason golf with you. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Comparing rates to help you save call or click today and find out how much progressive could save you the big news of the day. Flacco kind of traded to the Broncos, of course, nothing can be official until March thirteenth. This means Baltimore officially commits to Lamar Jackson, and it presumably means that case keenum's time with the Broncos may soon be up although jury's still out on exactly what the Broncos are going to do with keenum. Here's Adam Schefter, ESPN NFL insider on the twelve pm sports center with Kerry champion. I think it's true. Now is in the air. I think that's the best way saying, we don't know the Broncos will please. Him we work as contract trying to trade him. I think a lot will depend on who has interest if anybody else's interested what they decide to do how much money to save. Again. I think there are no answers right now as to case teams future. The one thing that we can say is that it's up in the air, it's uncertain. And I don't think the Broncos. No at this point in time. We'll wind up doing with case keenum, but your back or is the new expected sorting quarterback for the Denver Broncos. Well keenum was not as good as people hoped after he thrived with the Vikings. But he gave the Broncos their best season since manning in twenty fourteen there's that right there to best offensive lineman combined for just fifteen starts. They got rid of various Thomas midseason that Emmanuel Sanders got lost to a torn achilles in the final month. So his forty six point nine QBR. Maybe not as shocking as one would think without the weapons and offense of line and. I mean, I don't know. The question is do you really think just throwing flacco into a similar situation? It's going to provide considerably different desserts. Most phrases here. There's not enough starting quarterbacks to go around all thirty two teams. Right. So if you if you look at the bottom third of the starting quarterbacks in this league, there are all guys who are about to be replaced. Like, there's there's there's a dearth of talent there and the problem that that NFL GM's have an executives have is the overdraft of quarterbacks. You got some guys who want to draft a quarterback every single year you guys some guys will only want to wait until you get that franchise changer. And then you find out that that guy might not change a franchise, but you have to pay him. So the quarterback position is important for myriad reasons. But in the end case keenum left a dome left a magical season with the Minnesota Vikings in turn back into a guy who we thought was you know, barely above replacement quarterback. Right. So in the end, he he is what he is. I can't be mad at case keenum, you'd be mad at the guy who gave them a bunch of money thinking that he would be the answer that I think that's what it continues to get back to. Joe flacco is a guy who went to Delaware big arm. Big guy looked like a quarterback and was carried by defense for long enough and had a magical run. Gotcha. A Super Bowl if you would have draft Joe flacco until Baltimore Ravens fans. There's a Super Bowl waiting for you after ten years or eleven years, you'd be happy with it. Now. Of course, you know, parting is is tough at times. And now these last couple of years they've taken a downturn head draft another one. So there's not enough quarterbacks in the world to man, thirty two NFL teams. Well and flacco always skating so much on that Super Bowl run since the Super Bowl in two thousand twelve he's posted one above average season going by passer rating or net yards per attempt was these Gatineau because I mean he was getting crushed every year now. But I mean after the reason he's getting opportunity like this. This is the reason that it took them are Jackson to be drafted and show up for him to be replaced. Right. If he's been basically average, I guess you're surprised maybe that they didn't go looking for somebody better earlier than they did. Now his. His total QBR since two thousand twelve fifty three point eight among the twenty passers with two thousand or more pass attempts over that timeframe the only quarterbacks he beats out our ally. Manning Ryan tannehill Derek Carr, and Blake Bortles and all those guys are either up and trade talks or their fan base hates them. So so so in right. So in the end, I mean, I it speaks to your point there still mostly playing though, which is because there isn't enough talented not him around. There's not enough. I guess what we saw from flacco at the ravens last year. Can you use that as any sort of referendum on what can be expected with the Broncos because he was in a really tough situation you came in? And actually there was a lot of people saying he's going to have a great year. He's looked better than ever. He seems more engaged because there's a fire under his butt because he knows Lamar Jackson's behind him. And instead he gets benched, and Dan or Lobski ESPN NFL analyst was on the twelve pm sports center and said Joe flacco just doesn't seem that into it. I don't know if there's an erosion and skill. It's more enrollment of do you want to actually be playing football? Are you completely there wanting to be that leader fully invested year in and year out day after day? It just seems like Joe is kind of pulled back because of the situation from being that Super Bowl and VPN going on that run to where we see him. Now, he doesn't seem to be the scene engaged guy. Whenever I hear former players turn to analysts say stuff like that you read between the lines. That means that he's either witnessing something that he knows is a key indicator of a guy not being invested or he's hearing these things because usually former players don't come out and say things like that about current players. So that means that this is this is the talk going around Baltimore or in the NFL quarterbacking circles, I don't know if they all get together, and golf or whatever the case may be and when Ray Lewis was calling them out about it a few years ago a couple years ago, everybody thought that's just Rabi and Ray and being loud and being mad that somebody isn't as loud as him. But if these days continue to be said about you after a while, you gotta look around and say, all right. This may be true. Yeah. You're right. I hadn't really considered that there's potential conversation between Dan, and maybe some of the players over there about this to me. It seemed like a difficult accusation to make based on the circumstances. We would love for everybody to handle his benching and be just as involved as ever despite that but Newman it's not surprising that your reaction to being benched in favor of a rookie. Who's got a completely different style midway through the season because of injury, and then not coming back at all that's going to be met with the same vigor and vim vim were go vim first amendment vigor on the same of both of those as as normal. I mean, it's it's a conversation. We had around Alabama. Right. And it's a member station. We've had about a couple of different places. Clemson. Yeah. Where? It's great. When somebody does that. And they have a great attitude. But the reason we talk about it is because it's not normal be the bigger person thing. I always find fascinating, sir. Whether we're talking about social instances or professional instances where it's like come on and be the bigger person. And then we reward their applaud people. Yeah. They were the bigger person. Yeah. That's cool. But what about the people who have so much invested? And then are told you're not good enough anymore. I being told you're not good enough. Whether it be dating or in fast on it. Stop it. I'm just going across. I'm running the gambit here. Don't do that. To me come on saying we start to talk about being emotional again Balentine. Valentine all gonna come back. About me. I'm going to have a guy guy time. Oh, great fits. Fits you. Guys can honk. We can share Jason love is what we're going to move off of this quick note from the NBA Sixers Joel Embiid fined twenty five thousand dollars for public criticism of the officiating which included the use of inappropriate language and this is announced by the league today. He said this from the podium on Tuesday. Do I I saw. Turnaround, the stage flung open the curtain next to it and walked out dramatically that'll cost you for in. This show is brought to you by my computer, rear dot EDU training for a better life coming up. We'll head out to Denver. We'll ask if lack of will be an upgrade for the Broncos or just another head scratcher from John Elway. It's next Spain and bits Spain and Fitz. Geico presents unhelpful home improvement. How To's a slippery bathroom floor can result in expensive hospital bills? So today, I'll show you how to cook. In a serious. Fall by filling your bathroom with thousands of plastic balls. 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You know what? I mean. We'll hang out with the other peop- ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Let's out to the shell Pennzoil performance on ESPN dot com. Senior writer, Jeff leg. While covers the Broncos not dancing now. Not. Worm aficionado? Jeff like wall. I don't know if that's true. But I hope it is Jeff first of all can you confirm yea or nay? Can you do the worm? Yeah. Yeah. I'm vertically challenged. But it, you know, it is a it is a dandy worm. It's a short worm. But that's easier. Physics wise. It's easier to do a worm. When you don't have as long levers. That's disci-. Let's make it up. That's right. Exactly. Let's talk about this trade most people. I've heard are not really convinced black goes that much of an upgrade from case keenum. What do you see what I think you see immediately? What John Elway wants to quarterback. You know, he he signed the really the first short guy as as quarterback when he signed keenum and it lasted one year. So he's obviously looking for something he doesn't have. And I think everyone in the building including him knows. It's a short term fix. You know, this isn't this is a team that doesn't have a prospect. It drafted at the position on the roster. So a short term fix, but he. He's obviously made a decision that flack does work in big games, and playoff games and potential to play a little more settled in the pocket and in their play action game is what he wants Jeff. How hot is his seat knowing that he's a Denver Bronco legend one of the all time greats knowing that he hasn't developed or you know, cultivated or even drafted or evaluated properly the quarterback position. Well, you know, I think it's depends. I think he makes his feet hot. I mean, nobody's matter about him not being able to to fix this that he is. I would say, you know, I just his personality is that way. But I think for the first time people in the public here kind of I'm the quarterback position in wondering. How come you can't you know, sort of get it right over the long haul? You know, the they signed manning he should probably get a little more. Credit for see in the future there because when they did work manning out before they signed him manning could not complete a full passing workout it. You know, it was still a big big question if he would be able to plan a game at some point. And he got it right with that one. But since it's been tough, and they haven't, you know, they've expended one premium draft pick on the position Paxton Lynch and Lynch went old for three training camps in winning the job. So I think I think that's the one that stinks. The most because if you miss out a quarterback in the first round, that's really almost a three year mistake reorganization because you've built everything for that guy to win it. And then when he doesn't it really sets you back, and that's what they're trying to dig out of right now talking to Jeff leg walled ESPN Broncos reporter, I don't know Peyton Manning like what he was good enough because of the defense. I don't know if you went and got Peyton Manning as he was then in put him with this bronc-. Ios team. If it's good enough. And that's part of the issue is right. They have too many things that they need to fix case keenum wasn't as good as they expected. But he was also playing with an injured offensive line and wide receivers that were being traded or injured what happens to keenum, by the way, because they're stuck with a minimum ten million dollars on their cap for him right there. And and frankly, everything is still on the table with Kemin because of that. I mean, he they're paying him seven million bucks guaranteed. Whether he's on the roster or not he makes seven million of his eighteen million salaries if he's not here. So God that nice. That's. And trading that contract is a tough thing. Because of that, you know, it's a it's a big contract for most teams eighteen million dollar based salary with a seven million guarantee. No matter what that's tough to trade. And frankly, they're a little bit of a box because the cap savings if they cut him is eleven million, but the dead money's ten million. So it's really kind of a wash if they release them. So that's why you know, it might be a slim scenario, but the one where he stays as the backup is possible here. And and but they have not decided they have not made that decision. They didn't Elway talk to keenum this morning when things with the ravens, you know, we're we're getting closer to the framework of a deal. So keenum kinda knows where the team that and probably will have to sort through what he'd like to see too. But for the Broncos. They just haven't decided what they're going to do with him yet. ESPN Broncos reporter Jeff leg while you can follow him at Jeff underscore leg. World. Go for golf safe to say, they do not feel very enthused about this year's NFL draft two thousand twenty is what they're shooting as far as the quarterback position is concerned. You know, I think if somebody pops up in this one they like they would still do that because they know this year next year, maybe both they've gotta have a prospect or two in the building that they actually picked. And you know, I think you really are never gonna fix your quarterback spot long-term unless you can say that and you know, they they cut two of their own draft picks at the position last year. They cut Lynch and training camp, and they cut Chad Kelly after he got arrested and not Tober. So you know, they've got a they've got invest in that spot. It's just a question of whether they like anybody enough to do it in the first or second round this year. And then you know, if they don't then yes, probably a late round pick. And then they go after it for next year's class. Thanks for the anti definitely predate it. Thank you, just like well. On the shell Pennzoil performance line. Brought to you by Pennzoil synthetics taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level. Make the switch to Pennzoil synthetics today. Coming up who had a worse loss last night the Lakers or the pelicans both of them stunk. We'll talk about him next Jason Goffin for fit Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Spain and Fitz coming back to the show Jason golf God interrupted trying to tell us how many bowel movement today, he prefers so sorry. That's a conversational have to save for. Early. How the show going right now Goff talking about bowel movements mainly because poop Johnson but Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the espionage, Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason golf that call on ninety two nine the game. And I guess poop isn't appropriate way to sum up one happened for both the pelicans and the Lakers last night. Let's start with the Lakers. They lost to the hawks who have won nineteen games this season appears got them playing hard. But they aren't talented enough to be beating the Lakers on any night. Right. One seventeen one thirteen trae young twenty two point six points, fourteen assists. And a couple of times like you heard in that high and that call where the great LeBron James couldn't keep up with him. He still had a triple double though did. Plus minus zero and this is a team that needs a break. That's what LeBron James said afterwards. You know, we are ready. We we might have been checked out mentally because the all star game approach. It is what he said. Are we going to need to read anything at all into this short amount of time between the Anthony Davis? Rumors and the all star break or should we save our takes on these Lakers till after the break when presumably maybe they've recovered a bit more from that that whole mess. Well, if we're going to go off about how big the Celtics victory was does this whole the same amount of weight. Right. And you also have to to ask yourself. How much of the Atlanta flu was involved here? Like, what was the travel rating through his like, you know, some nights? Really you want to get on a teams good side. Get to a city that they want to go to the night before if you have a couple of days that you can spend their you want it you want to do that for team figure that out, you know, maybe sometimes guys down a little bit late. They got a younger team. I don't know what the case was I'll have to take a look at the schedule where Lakers were before that. But. Yeah. Man. I mean that you can't lose to the Atlanta Hawks. And if I'm anybody if I'm the most worried not just the Lakers fan, but I'm Luke Walton I'm looking around like, wait a minute. Either way. It comes down is gonna come down on my head, and they're not getting rid of LeBron James. They tried to get rid of the three of the core. Young players that didn't work out if if they're not buying in on, and I don't care how much you float through a game. Sarah at some point you're supposed to turn it on is. Sometimes teams jump on you in the first quarter. I you got it you through your best punch. All right. We'll figure this thing out after half time. But if if if you're being tuned out against the Atlanta Hawks or you just can't get it or you need a break and all this the playoff push. This ain't the sixty fifth seat in the west L abroad took off enough time that this team sunk to number ten in the Western Conference and the Sacramento Kings young and just dumb enough to not know, the the the gravity of the situation and keep playing as hard as they're playing Luke Walton better watch out because I don't know what evidence we have that. Anybody besides him should or we'll get the blame. Lebron was asked about the team's postseason hopes after this game. How are you start worrying about the playoffs? To you, the mega domain. That's when you worry about. My want to worry about it. Now, I wouldn't wait until you've been eliminated that doesn't seem like a plan. You mentioned the Celtics win and how we looked at that. And said that is good for this team. They need to stop the narrative that after all the Anthony Davis stuff. They're never going to be able to come together. There was in fact, a whole Larry article in the onion that sounded very real which they often do LeBron Lakers hoping horrible series of failed betrayals brings them. Closer ends a team. This is a great line right here. Sometimes you just need a cascading series of backstabbing lies public humiliation and transparent attempts to replace each other before you realize how great the players around you truly are Russia radio. Right. It's a fake quote from LeBron. But it sounds about right. We're not even gonna get into that comment. You just made that cuts to deep and takes too long tomorrow. All right. That's right. But yeah, I mean, you know, this is one of those things that we're going to hear a lot of spin on it, all we'll come off the break and. We'll realize that we're stronger than we were before. But that might not happen and LeBron James being able to do magical things in the postseason after a fairly regular regular season. He gotta get to the postseason. I to get a ragtag bunch of dudes to overperform, right? What about the kids who haven't gone through this right for four years of losing? What it five years of losing since the Lakers have been in the playoffs. Whatever the case may be start asking them these questions because LeBron knows what to say. And he knows if he says anything dot goes thick anyway, he's LeBron James. He's the three time champion four time. MVP? This thing is the long play. It's also a play for his entertainment in old companies and aspirated us Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma who colleagues a vibrant kid. A he he he seems like he gives decent enough answers. Ask him about missing the playoffs. And and how this off season will feel and if he's going to continue to be talked about in trades like don't ask LeBron anymore. Lebron is going to give you the Kandla. Br. Financer answer. Every once in a while remember the beginning of the season. You know, you guys know when I'm mad something to that effect the came out. Well, guess what you ain't got mad yet. We fifty six sixty games in. You ain't got mad yet. You ain't gonna never be mad. So now start to ask some of these dudes who who feel like who made it through the trade deadline, and all of a sudden, we still lose in the same way that we were losing when I was here by my damn self. So that's why I want to hear from going forward, and that might be who thinks to ship. If one of these these kids who didn't get traded starts to tell the truth about what's really going on with this team. Right. And if they never figure out enough to at least come together in the in the necessary moments to make it to the postseason and put together a run Sarah Spain and Jason gov. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Speaking of teams losing despite superstars being back on the court. The pelicans one eighteen to eighty eight loss to the magic Davis afterwards. Anthony Davis we sucked. Nobody was interested in playing is what it looked like including him three points one of nine shooting only the second. Time in forty four games. He has not reached double figures New Orleans as a team minus sixteen in the twenty four minutes. He was out there. You think when you said nobody was interested in playing he meant I wasn't or was he trying to blame his teammates. He's doing a reverse quarterback thing when we're good. It's us, and when we're bad it's is I guess what? I didn't wanna play can't say that. We didn't wanna play and I'm still here. And you guys don't have to play me and pay me is going to be weird. It this. I think that's just what it is. This is going to be a weird weird twenty five games. So then we'll get over it. But it's going to be nasty while we watch and the last night, I think it was the beginning of it. Yeah. Purgatory for the pelicans on the one hand you can't sit in the rest of the season on the other hand. He's getting booed. They're terrible. 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Hour 2: Smart Preseason Moves

The Stephen A. Smith Show

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Hour 2: Smart Preseason Moves

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Just roll into sportscenter allnight and just see you in the door. Memorial freddie just came in and said hi and i was like who lose weight and a pandemic and then he flexed and that was unnecessary house. Really good he does. Smell really good now. The studio smells good mexico. Herman show is presented by progressive. Insurance guests join us on the on. The good hotline or here in studio is freddie. Calm adjusted eight eight eight say. Espn is telephone number. Eight seven to nine three seven seven six and we start with these start forever. Let's see how many teams last night played their first. Nfl preseason game three of because the steelers play the hall of fame but the one of note was the washington football team and the new england. Patriots i sort of i sort of chuckle there because there was a highlight from the washington. Football team it wasn't ryan fitzpatrick. He came in. He's fine Didn't turn the ball over. He'll save that for about week. Four of the regular season. No it was chase young. It was what chase young did cam. Newton bodied them. You know what it was what chase young did get to cam newton to body him and that was blow by isaiah win. Who's a really good offensive line and also in the camp that thoroughly enjoyed cams reaction to it would say like oh. He's smaller than i thought he was. Then then he was like. Don't guys i'm kidding. And he took off. He actually lowered his mask. And the press conference like guys kidding. You gotta see my face just right right. I'm not like the subtext of that is is there like the same size. Yeah and that was chase young said it. He goes when i hit him. I was like oh. This is a big dude. But he's still brought him down. But yeah l. cam. Newton is this is is. Is that chase young defensive line okay. Yeah cambo looked. I think everything you wanted to go right as an offensive coordinator josh mcdaniels. And you're looking at the film. I don't think you're gonna find much that you that you hated from the quarterback position and i think you're coming off a season where there was plenty that you hate it. I think this is the exact position. The patriots wanted to be in after game one of the couple of weeks of camp game. One of the preseason. You want to be in a situation where you're talking about. This guy is good. This guy is closing the gap. This guy is consistent. And there's not a huge line between what we have and what we don't have the potential is there and that's all they can ask for at this point. I think there are teachable. Moments there are certainly things to improve from both Max jones match jones. mack jones. had you. You had a touchdown dropped a christian wilkerson like he. His line could have been even better and what. I will continue to hammer into the ground. And i'm not trying to sound like a stat head necessarily or overly analytical when it comes to a preseason game. But i think what you saw from josh. Mcdaniels was a trust or willingness to allow mack jones. Push the football down the field. And i'm not saying he doesn't have that same level of comfort or trust in cam newton but i think you saw how the offense could be different depending on. Who's under center. And i see that. Hold on just in terms of air yards. Yeah air yards per attempt cam. Newton was within one yard. Line of scrimmage. On average one yard was point seven yards. I believe mack jones more than seven yards in the air counterpoint per attempt. What if this was actually an attempt to get mack jones comfortable with failing a little bit the will then he has but he has to be able to go out and have dropped passes. He has to be able to go out and not have a successful drive. This is a guy who came from alabama when the highest qbr since the ratings of since literally qbr became a thing sure he has the championship. He has everything you want going into this rookie season. It is not ever going to be that easy again so he has to be able to to fail and move on and so letting him letting him push down the field letting him sort of flex his muscles on the playbook is an opportunity for him to those mistakes and at a time where it doesn't really matter. Okay i i would agree with that. Keyshawn johnson has been in this position before highly touted rookie making his preseason debut. He knows quarterbacks. Because he lived off of quarterbacks he made his living off of quarterbacks this is key on keyshawn. J. will in zubin this morning on. Espn radio espn tv assessing whether or not there's even a quarterback competition new england. No man stop is cool. But there's no competition cam has to lose this to give it to mack jones. And that's okay mack. Jones is a future of the new england patriots in future. Today is preseason game one. it's one game in a preseason five drives that's it you gotta play a whole course of a season. It's okay for him to sit for year. I understand in boston what they want. But they're not getting it. I totally agree. I think if we see mack jones in a game before the end of the season like starting a game. He's the starting quarterback for the patriots. It's less about what mack jones has done and more about what cam newton wasn't able to do it is cams job to lose. It has cams job to mess up. He has this season then. It's max turn. I would agree with that. I don't know though. I believe in cam newton. So i i don't sound like someone who's looking for a reason not to play him okay but i think if we continue to see from mack jones what we saw last night. I feel like it's a matter of when and not if and with regard to this season particular and i would out extra pendulum like we five after the tampa bay game. I think you allow cam newton to play against tom. Brady in brady's return on the night of october fourth. And then you roll the kid out. There is light in the world on fire. Do you think the kansas city at the kansas city patriots. Do you think the kansas city chiefs sought in patrick mahomes in the lead up to his takeover. The things that we see from him now because they knew he was going to be electric. They knew he was going to be patrick mahomes and they still didn't put him in until the end of the season. They still sat on alex smith. They still rode that train. Why not do that with with mack. Jones i don't. I'm not trying to sound difficult. I do think they saw hold on. I do think they saw patrick mahomes as being special. I think the difference is. They didn't see in alex. Smith what the patriots are seeing from cam newton and did see from cam newton last season. Let's do you understand. Like what his ashes of greatness that cam newton showed last season prior to cove. It is better than the key. The sustained excellence. Alex smith gave no. So what is it that they're seeing. What what i'm saying is alex smith didn't struggle in the way that cam newton did in the year leading up to drafting homes versus drafting pip. Mack jones right. That's okay so you draft mack jones because cam newton didn't show you last season which to me is unfair because we're learning about covert as a society. Let alone is as a coaching staff. We were trying to shoehorn in a season. But that that's you believing that his issues are cove related. Give i fully believe that last one is the last time that you saw cam. Newton play at cam newton. Mvp level we chew against the seahawks instantly to against the seahawks insistently for a whole of sixty minutes. Sixty sixty minutes doesn't count. You've got cold. I'm talking games. I'm talking to season. And it is ben awhile. I can have flashes in the plan. But i want consistent. I want consistent greatness. I least goodness goodness shirt. But he was cam. Newton of old like he was two rushing touchdowns. He was three hundred ninety. Some some odd passing passing touchdown and then he got cova then. He got a virus that we're still learning about have a long-term effects are all that stuff which i think part of why you draft mack jones and the fact jones felt you at threat draft position for the patriots because they were in a bad they weren't he had draft by in like the worst spot that you can have because you won't draft higher draft low if you draft low it means you're coming off a playoff season. You don't want ever draft in the middle of the pack if you can avoid it based on your natural slot. And that's where the pats were and the rest of the league allowed. Matt jones a fall to him so the rest of the league like thirty one other teams thirty one of their fan bases. We're going to look back in a couple years and be like. How did we let this happen. I also feel like this could be one of those. Freezing cold takes after five whole drives. Oh my god. He's the greatest thing since slice bread. And he's the next. Tom brady like. Oh whoa up a minute your impression lead and it's great. I sound weird. Like it's like like like alexis. Nicole shits creek meets jerko. Yeah meets I don't know knowing. Caretaker steve urkel fran drescher throw it all pans back. You said well up. Like i'm some sort of cowboy on some dude ranch somewhere joey lawrence fine. That's either way either. Way nicole briscoe bully of bristol and randy scott in for max on the max kellerman show on. Espn radio espn plus sirius. Xm channel eighty is is important to note there as well. I wanna get to the other. So wasn't the preseason debut for the steelers because remember they played in the hall of fame game but it was for the eagles. And i'm excited about it and yeah you know some fantasy football it but like i wanna see. A full season of jalen hurts in mice. Fans do as well. I'd forgotten about nick serianni. I'd forgotten about what he brings to the table. Offensively casual and so we got to see the debut of both in. I think it was a mixed bag for hurts. Ran the ball a little bit news. Three a seven passing not great but you point out the average yards per tempted. And you'll certainly take that. What i liked though from hurts was like i feeling he could have like a cam. Newton week to seahawks game. Three hundred plus yards and rushing touchdowns whatever and could find issues with it. He i'm gonna play hurts assessment. Actually know what key play hurts his assessment. This is much better sound by his assessment new system there as he tries to get his feet under him as a starting quarterback preseason week one smooth especially being out there with a new set of coaches I always talk about having a new situation. Maybe you have new experiences that come along with that and it was good to get on the grass on the field with them. Get their coach on from him Talk about we saw in the food definitely a lot of stuff we can learn from from the day like he is going to be his own worst critic. This guy who puts himself through squat workouts and all sorts of legs. Stuff is not not what you want after games. I'm saying like he is. He's going to beat himself up and he beat himself performance. That like you're gonna be rusty. It's one of the preseason and you have that you can't sold out you can't go out and be jalen hurts after the the stat. Line that he had. I realized that it was limited playing time. But the guy who went in after you did a little bit more and joe flacco had a couple of big throws and had a couple of big moment so like flacco almost came off as the star of the game and flacco. Jerry's flacco came offices star. Dr might have been a little bit of a reach thirty in curve. the stat line was certainly better it. Yeah against jews. He's going against non-starters over there. It's still flacco and flacco carries with him a pedigree. That jalen hurts has to sort of beat himself up to become. I'm going to be really salty as a non eagle fan. If they pull jalen hurts at any point this season and go to flacco for reason other than injury metoo. because that's just. Because i like jalen hurts because as a front office you have continued and this is. This was a wednesday issue. This was nichols issue and it's jalen hurts problem to not surround him to actively choose not to go out and find better skill position players put around mile sanders sanders good but he has to throw the ball to someone and right now. This is the depth chart jalen regular Greg ward oh you're like record. Had i know the name well. He was a hell of a quarterback at the university of houston And beyond that is quiz. Watkins flew these flashy real fast. Like crazy speed on the outside. And he and man at how different of a conversation is this if hurts connects with him on that ninety eight yard touchdown attempt in. Maybe it is a different conversation. But the fact is that didn't happen because these continue to be undersized wide receivers but if this is the learning curve year what if this is the year that they're sort of gifting both serianni in terms of Eagles front office like okay. Here's your year. You will be the new head coach. You get to be the new quarterback this is your team. You guys are going to work together. You're learn each other's language and the next year we're going to go out and we're going to spend a bunch of money or bring it in when you're well-versed in his language and your well-versed in his language and you're working together and we got this thing rolling then we're going to go spend the money and then our expectations are going to be high so go out there. Make your now get comfortable. And we're not going to expect the world from you but we will next year you're right. I think that learning curve exists no matter what the end game is like. You created the curve. Like if you're nfl franchise in your goal especially in philadelphia. I think there are some. I think there are some fan bases. Where maybe you you know you can get by with trying these experiments eddie jacksonville's doing it jackson's doing it just with flashier names. Urban meyer's a bigger name. The knicks iriani is. But i think in philly. You need to win. you need to. You need to win the trophy season. No i'll go ahead and sex. I'm saying they man. I'm just freezing. Cold take machine right now but they will fail if they finish the season with this group of skill position players they will. They have set a ceiling for themselves with this receiver core to say nothing of zakar in dallas got. That might be one of the more talented tight tight end groups in football but they have lowered this area there as well for their quarterbacks with these receivers and it would be one thing. If it's a new problem this has been going on for several years when this part of the problem with carson wentz in it'd be one thing if we're talking about football in the eighties whereas three but the carson skill go back is different than the jalen hurts. Skillset ask quarterback. Why make the job more difficult for a young quarterback hazard the eagles. Why make the learning curve even steeper with any coach in quarterback. Like you have right. If you were to buy stock in a quarterback moving forward for the next three seasons would you buy jalen hurts stock in a vacuum in a vacuum here evacuate and hurt stock of ryan tannehill stock. If you're buying stott jalen hurts down but you know going to win more. Football games cancale. Because julio jones because julio jones and j brown i'm willing say derrick henry say derrick henry of that. We'll leave it out i'm here. He's not going to catch many ball. Not many balls but you can handle him but you have to have a threat like i hear miles. Sanders is talented. Brian scott is talented. They brought in carrie johnson from choi. The they'll tell you. They're saying the weapons. Aren't there if you can stack a box against that. You're you're your quarterback. And who's heathrow into. He's talking to a converted quarterback greg ward like man. I'm sounded like a wine eagles fan. Am i like jalen hurts. I've root for jalen hurts and his job. Hard not to lamaze difficult. because of his own franchise. That's what i'm saying. Then there are. Now i do. I didn't even know what's going to get into. that sort. walked into it. It's like oh. I i trust steelers are doing now. Well so who's there. Okay quarterback number one rothlisburger long as he's healthy this season backup. Quarterback is the conversation and we at tanenbaum on earlier. Hey what's the one. What's the one ad that you like the most this offseason and total front office guy goes. I like the backup quarterback. It is what doing haskins they brought him in one year. Deal approve it deal and if you look at what happened in steelers. Can't there's been one guy that's been flashy there's been one guy who's been sort of the justin fields the exciting one and that has been dwayne haskins now. There are some bags that come with him. Some concerns that come with him with his wife punched him in the face in las vegas one of them other things. Yeah they're there of maybe not being the most accountable accountable guy in the locker room but if you take an organization like the steelers that have a history of one accountability but to consistency in. Mike tomlin has been that coach for a long time. You put him in an organization that can surround him with people that hold him accountable and give him the support that he needs in other areas of his life. Then you've got all that talent because we know he's got talent. We've got all that talent that suddenly being able to develop and he wasn't in that situation before no. I think getting out of his hometown. Like dwayne haskins is a d. c. area man always a bad combination. It's tough it's and that is not a dwayne has because it's tell them itself out over a lot of different sports and a lot of talented athletes so you have a young man as a top ten pick. He's got a ton of talent on the right side at twenty five and he's in a situation where that's skill receiver group there. Okay now she harrison running back. That's fine but jason apple juice miss schuster klay pool johnson johnson. I mean they're they're jalen's weapon there you made. You made me laugh just for a second. I was like if anyone understands what it is like to work at home. Oh it's all of us. I think we all learned that like in the last eighteen months when you're working at home like you're never as dialed in your distracted by all of the things. That was dwayne haskins. Yeah he was. 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The max. kellerman show is presented by progressive. Insurance guests join us on the goodyear hotline to get right down to it. We got you covered. Let me tell you what i have. No doubt i'm excited for this me too. I'm excited for the no segment. I'm excited to take part in one after listening to it for a while. Now let's start now. Ufo's are a big topic on this show. Do you believe that's right. That's right guys. Ufo's are a huge topic on his show. I finally got mexico around and believe so question for both of you burst. Do you believe no doubt. No doubt diggity juwan. Explain why because i'm not a nurse. Assist the world is a gigantic place. The universe like this is why. If i thought that we were the only people in the entire universe if we if there wasn't some other form of life out there like it's bigger than just me bigger than all of us all right. I'm also no doubt no doubt so. My dad is a retired pilot. Like commercial aviator the stories that they can tell for united and eastern airlines before that he was a naval aviators. Top gun dame red red was the call. Sign singer maverick. He had red moustache so call. Sign was red and he is You know he's like a straight lately. Play it down the middle street lace conservative dude but if you ask him about this topic he'll say that he is seen stuff absolutely that he cannot explain and it's not just by the standard definition like. Oh it's an unidentified flying object. No it is something that my eyes don't understand because my uncle's a former soaker that looks like that but yes because my uncle was a former for delta and same thing he he's like what we saw something the other night and i don't know what it is and it didn't look like a ever seen before i'm all in no doubt any of your favorite move along if you've paid attention recently. They're talking about things you've never seen but moving in ways that we have vacated in explain directions angles like. That's the park along the speed. Your favorite quarterback aaron rodgers bull has seen one the night before he was drafted. he saw one. I bet we have all seen one. We just don't know to identify it. As such aaron operates at a higher level you knew right. What's an extra all right guys. You guys teased it but you seem bold officially challenged tyreek hill to a race. And give you full disclosure. You saying man. I could run a tyreek time. A forty time in my pajamas. But we're not sure of the distance from seventy one hundred meters now. He's a former gold. Medallist you got you you say in this in this race right you. I know ooh why he okay. He's a slow starter. You saying you sane bowl is a is a i say slow bring a couch that he's a slow starter. Tyreek is in his prime. Like you sane. His retired which doesn't seventeen toy seventeen and he retired after hamstring injury. The talk is like maybe they would compromise on the length so it wouldn't be one hundred. Maybe would be seventy meters right. Which would then give tyreek the advantage because he would be more explosive quicker faster and bolt would need like the last thirty a little bit more. So you're saying no. I'm not confident but no i'm saying i'm also saying no big because of the prime element of tyreek hill prime things throwing me off you. Same bolts thirty four. He retired after the hamstring. Issue in two thousand seventeen. That's the distance is a little longer tyreek hill. More expository current four two nine forty. Like if i ask your body like national body to do something right now and i'm not saying that he forgot how to run did bolt but he might not have the same That he did four years ago. I was like he'll still doing it. I remember playoffs play. Mario kart with these same bolt. No big deal and he is competitive as all get out and about saying that he will not. I'm not saying he cheated against me. Mario kart. I'm not saying it didn't but off. Yeah we played over over by the new studio when it was the new studio band. And he destroyed me destroyed so he's fascinated to anyway all rush. Go ahead all right here. We got a birthday to house guys. Magic johnson turns sixty two this weekend. Hey magic still has the best smile in sports. Now who got better got better. Give me a better dials. Okay simone biles after. She landed her dismount on the beam when her face lit up. That's one hell of a smile. And it's recently bias. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think i'm trying to think of better smiles. I can't think of a better. Twitter account. I can't the match. That's that's all right. Ooh he's an iconic smile is and it's still around sports and it's around different sports and the dodgers and the lakers. I'm going to say i'm going to say who has a better smile down. No doubt i doubt. I'm glad magic special route of here in the last day national blame someone else day. Yes show goes bad. Everything say this was a bad show ready. No colour gonna blame each other. No doubt no doubt. Wait i believe ranji for everything. Like randy's why i'm here right now like oh do you wanna do this sure fine. Well randy i blame me for. Everything is good. Yeah i'm gonna. I'm gonna see no. Yeah the blame for it. Because i if this show is not good. It's my fault because i've been on the air for. This is my seventh hour of the day in fourth hour of racing that. Oh no i actually. I've been carrying network for seven hours of this show doesn't go according to plan. It's totally on me being. Let's not such a team player making myself available that's I think tone could use a little bit of work but my thing more is just like this is my third show. So if it's not good. It's because of that. So i'll own it. I'll own it and i'll save is not good. It's my father won't pass the blame you for everything list long game. I like this game. I'm imagining it with a a nicer nicer co host coming up my kids like to be flipped in the pool and they think that i can do it because you were over last weekend. And they think they can flip them like. And so i believe for that. My shoulder hurts because of that. Your kids are featherweights. Though my sturdy birdies compared to your. I'm like i throw in your youngest around nimbly bitterly. So what are we looking forward to this weekend with. The nfl preseason games. I think we've got a nice little appetizer last night. But really gonna get some quarterback questions. I don't even wanna say answer because it's week one of the preseason but i wanna see justin fields for the bears and that's in a game against the dolphins were to some questions of his own so we're going to get into that a full. Nfl preseason slate. 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Show the podcast. Good question and i don't know there's a there's a wrong answer to it and i don't know that there's a definitive right answer to it. It's that sort of that sort of football question. On the max kellerman show on espn radio and espn plus also on sirius. Xm channel eighty randy. Scott nicole briscoe informatics eight eight eight say. Espn is a phone number. Eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six if you're wondering if they call took her bullying to a social media platform the answer's yes. The answer's obviously But the question that we use hashtag we put out there. You know what there was. There was somebody who work here. Put out a scott hashtag before was i hate randy. Scott guys always liked him. It got a big hippo bullied. But we ask the question going to go on a break there for a second was. What is your must. Watch game what is your must watch. Nfl preseason nights through the redican this weekend it could be tonight could be through the rest of this opening weekend of the nfl. Preseason and cheese it up. we'll let me. i'll buy some time. So we're going to get a look at trevor lawrence. Zach wilson justin fields trae lance and. I want to play something for matt. Nagy okay because he weighed in and he's going to decide this how much we actually gonna see of justin fields as the bears take on the dolphins in their respective preseason opener. So here is matt nagy talking about just that for sure. Pass the halftime. Unless there's i hate to say anything a hundred percent but the mindset going into it is that he's going to. he's going to get a lot of reps. You know does that. Take them into the fourth quarter. Maybe you know yeah who knows. We'll see more reps that we can get a him right now the better. It's only going to help him. We'll fourth quarter. Whoa whoa whoa fourth. Quarter preseason game justin fields. no yes. that's not smart. I agree that's not smart. Especially if this is the guy that you're not so secretly eyeing yet secretly eyeing and not admitting to eyeing the to be your week when starter in the fourth quarter of a preseason game the first preseason game no less like it's not even the the prove it we know late. Usually we will be in other games but no. That's okay so that's what he says. So does that sway you on. What you're most must watch game is no because i i still feel like i. I think that that becomes like a personal question. Because i'm always going to default to green bay. So i wanna see green bay. 'cause they play the texans saturday night but i want to watch them in part because of all the questions i have about jordan love. He's a complete unknown. If this is the guy who's going to be slapped in my face and forced upon me before. Aaron rodgers is actually ready to retire. I need to see him. I need something from jordan. Love to make me feel better about the situation in. I'm not there yet. okay okay. But that's just me being selfish and only worrying about me. But that's that's in that same game as you. I mean you are being selfish because you're focusing only on the on the on the packers side of it but like what are the texans do. Because we won't serious shawn watson the trace interesting because isn't shawn watson fourth. He is listed behind davis mills on the depth chart. Yes that is. That is a fallon mills. General mills are things more likely to play quarterback this season then to shawn watson shawn wines. Houston i can look at all of these games and come up with reasons. Why i at least want to pay attention to the first quarter. I want to see julio jones and his relationship with what. he's been able to develop at least with his new team. I'm curious about mitchell. Trubisky in buffalo. Who says being in buffalo has reignited his love of the game. So that's the bills in in detroit. This is the earned. My head were cuyler. Murray has to take that next step forward and i realized we're not going to get that in a preseason game the the groundwork the foundation has to be laid and those are just the three games tonight. Yeah no he goes real full slate saturday night so saturday. The nightcap would be interesting if any of the offensive starters play that's the l. a. bowl. It's it's the chargers in rams but we already have both coaching staffs come out. And say hey. We're not going to see justin herbert. No austin no keenan allen and then on the ram side no matt stafford like we're not going to get a taste of of regular season you know form for these guys. So i'm gonna go ahead and say the chiefs and forty niners. And i say that the chiefs not necessarily because of patrick mahomes although it would be nice to see they got orlando brown in the orlando junior in the off season. And that's coming on the heels. A super bowl where tampa bay pushed them around and still patch. Patrick mahomes almost did enough to win that game. But i'm saying that because of trae lance freelance with the niners. And he's gonna run. It's going to be garoppolo. The plan is already out there kyle. Shanahan said it's me one series for jimmy garoppolo with the stars. Then pull them and let lance go as long as kyle shanahan fairest quarter. Listen trae had one college football game last season one. It was a showcase show. Pony though with the guys that you're evaluate evaluating spot on the team no you. Don't you have to see him against defense. It's not wearing the same uniform. I understand that you have a shorter window to do that. In a shortened pre season where there are only three games again. There's no wrong answer. There's no definitive right answer. It's just preseason football orleans at baltimore and it's finally back jameis. Winston tastes hell. Okay is that going to be I think james so he should be james Some hill documented hashtag. Blame randy and they run counter. Intuitive to sean payton. She's nicole briscoe. I am not joined the rest of your. Thanks for listening to the max kellerman show make sure you subscribe rate and review. You can hear the show live weekdays at two pm eastern on espn radio espn news or wherever you stream your audience.

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"Yeah this is the max kellerman kelvin. Show on espn radio max. Keller sean at voices corrected is the mets kellerman show. I am masculine on. Espn radio and espn plus. Also siriusxm channel eighty. I'm convinced now of my prediction of the cowboys record member earlier in the week. I think i was right after the first episode of hard knocks. If you've thought. I wasn't on solid footing with that. I said nine and eight nine. I think i'm going to go with eight. Nine i was. I was leaning toward nine and eight. But after mike mccarthy's mojo moments on hard knocks. I think i bust them down to eight nine eight eight say. Espn seventy nine. Three seven seven six. The max kellerman shows presented by progressive insurance guests. Join the good your hotline. How about them cowboys. Who was the star of hard knocks. I say jerry jones. That's the number one indicator to me that the cowboys are in trouble. You know when you know the cowboys won't will you know. Have a real chance to win when you watch an episode of hard knocks and jerry. Jones is the star of the show. Jimmy johnson was of the show. Jerry jones couldn't take it couldn't take jimmy. Johnson was dominating football along with jerry jones. Jerry jones ushered in the era of the salary. Cap led the fight for it and the past like a minute later the cowboys announced it signed dion sanders and was like wait a minute. You just data salary-cap you can't afford dion sanders jerry's that not so fast. We're pro rating the guaranteed portion. The signing bonus. Over a billion years. You see so. We're under the cap. And that was a little parlor trick and soon as everyone caught onto that one he had nothing new to. He hasn't won a super bowl since now. They won the super bowl the following year. Two with barry switzer. But that was with jimmy johnson's players including dion sanders. That jerry jones you know hoodwinked the world into signing anyway jerry on this episode of hard knocks. They're telling jimmy johnson. He's going to go in the ring of honor. And you hear jimmy johnson going while i'm still alive and jerry. I can't really answer that f-. The cowboys are jinxed until jimmy johnson johnson's in the ring of honor but more than that. It's not just like magical thinking. It's their jinxed because what it reflects when jimmy johnson's not in the ring of honor. It reflects the point of view of mentality of jerry jones that that's basically on the star of the show when the owner can stop being the star of the show. The dallas cowboys have a chance to win. The head. coach can be the quarterback the start of the episode of hard knocks last night. It was on. Hbo the camera focused on the scar on. Dak prescott surgically repaired right ankle. Remember in two thousand twenty. His season ended your ago in week. Five because he suffered dislocation compound fracture of his ankle during the cowboys. Game against the giants. Prescott that i love scars. I got plenty of them. Let's also not forget. The cab is setting the world on fire. When back was healthy early in last season know and the season before that dacca's healthy the whole way they went eight mate. Like i don't know how we're gonna see what. What are we going to see. What are we gonna see. Exactly dak best friend. Like dakyns. zeke have a genuine friendship. That's nice very nice but the drama from yesterday's show was actually mike mccarthy being unhappy with the amount of work dak getting in cap and he. He made it very clear. Cut down on the reps and akwa fighting against it. He was learning. I wanna get in there. Forget that and but at and dak wound up still working a little more than he should've been came down with a new injury. They're calling baseball injury muscular. Jerry's there at his desk praising staff we're getting in touch with the texas rangers pitching staff because it was like a baseball. That's a good idea. But even before that jerry was like wait are we sure the dacca can't play. Why don't we could see more deck. He was kind of pushing the other way then then jerry sitting at his desk eating a burger sausage cheese something and he's he's takes. The bun often salts it before he puts the gun back on. You know how much sodium in one of those things it is. Jerry what are you doing. But the mojo speech from mike mccarthy is the one that made me think look. I didn't think they made the right. Hire head coach when they hired mccarthy and i think i'm right i thought that jerry jones had to hire a guy with enough gravitas to appease the fan base but without enough to stand up to jerry no was being down mike mccarthy's door to give him a job as head coach in the nfl. So when the cowboys of all team with all that offense of talent comes knocking. Of course he's going to say yes and of course he's in no position to resist jerry and i think that when a coach does something like you know. A lot of coaches look for motivation. Here comes you know like We're talking about alabama. Brought him and brought him mike tyson to give the team speech. You know all that and it might work but when a coach starts going to antics like we're gonna play austin powers a movie from a million years ago by the way coach doesn't seem that old to me but yeah the kids in that room. It seems like on before they before they were born. And you're playing them austin powers like they're supposed to get it and saying we're going to create mo jo moments dude when that falls flat. Which will you better have that team believing that you know exactly what you're talking about that you have their best interest in mind and that you know how to put them in positions to to succeed because if they start questioning that once you go to those kind of antics it's over i'm going to get some calls and and i need to ask you a question. Is this the best. Big three lebron has ever played with or played in because he's one of the big three. Let me put it another way. Lebron's used to be better in miami than he is today because he was physically closer to was prime or these two best teammates with whom. He's making a big three in his career. The candidates of course or wade in boston miami. Kyw rian kevin love in cleveland but westbrook in a d. The best lebron has played with eight eight eight say. Espn seven to nine. Three seven seven. Six dan from michigan. You're on the max kellerman show. Hey maxine you're taking the call real quick about trevor lawrence and the pressure situation with rookie quarterback clammy. I would have to disagree and go with san francisco. Now you know we don't know grapple gonna start up with with shannahan established there with established football team in general. I mean decimated by injury last year giving up as much as they did for him. Don't you think the most pressure on him whether he's even playing starting or restarting halfway through the season no. I don't think there's the most pressure on trae lance. I understand your point. It's a contending team. But if trae lance falters. There's jimmy garoppolo trim jimmy garoppolo gets hurt. I understand the point even then if you fall short they like. He's a rookie quarterback he the plan was to give him a year holding the clipboard. Eating get it so no. I don't think the pressure is on trae lance in year one the way it's on trevor lawrence in year one trevor lawrence coming out was considered the perfect quarterback prospect. Certainly there hasn't been another. One is as checking all the boxes. Trevor lawrence since andrew luck and maybe he was even a little more than luck. He's little taller. He wanna championship in college. Luck never did no. I don't think there's a way around that. I think trevor lawrence is facing the most pressure. Justin feels as a lot of upside right because he was taken so low. Eleven overall that anything he does. It's like you know. look at this. How did he slip that far and if he doesn't succeed it's like well look. There's a reason he went eleventh. Trae lance as i mentioned. He's on a very good team but they have a guy who just got him to a super bowl was along you know. Yeah you got him to jimmy garoppolo really good. He's won three games for every game. He's lost as a starter for a team that loses three games every game. They win without him. Let's head to the goodyear hotline. Because chris mortenson espn senior nfl. Insider is on the line. And more i have to say you have quickly become. Maybe my favorite guest. You're you're a little cranky with me. You have excellent information very little patience for like you know lunatic theories i love it more. Does michael thomas play. Another down for the saints is is who my thomas. Does he play another down for the saints. I don't know the correct answer I would speculate that he's not. I think that there's been a pretty good fracture there Lack of trust i mean. I'm seeing hearing joe though And speculative as from my perspective but it but it's smart speculation that you know. Here's sean payton. Yesterday said we. We must get another cornerback in other words like the guys who cover the receivers And you know we're looking to jacksonville. were urban. Meyer is and you know when he won his national championship there. I think it was in twenty fourteen but you can check At ohio state might well. Thomas was a stud with a star on that team. And the saints actually took michael thomas in the second round and he became a star in the nfl. And but here's the thing about. It is terribly lawrence actually has a lot of good receivers there and the corner that the saints probably would want back the is the jaguars first round pick last year. Cj henderson he he. He's really good. I don't know that urban meyer would give that up for for a receiver. Who who let's face is is is hurting recovering and rehabbing and making a lot of money. Well made a lot of money to cap heads. But he's already gotten a good bit of his money You know the campus or are not overwhelming twelve million and then nine or whatever it is So it's really matter of communications would probably have to be you know saints. Give permission to my thomas or as agent to have conversations with the jags. Jags say Okay let's talk about it or it could be that they say no. We don't wanna talk about it. But you know i mean having that type of injury and it certainly has gotten ugly with the saints. There's no question about that that part of it So i assume that you won't but you know then again Sean payton looking at that. I think he thinks can contend l. But they've got that. Have some injuries right now. Talking to chris mortensen at mort report if you want to follow him on twitter own more. You're so cranky with me. The last time. I brought up the following topic. Oh did you have very little patience for my nonsense carson wentz and quinton nelson. We're both her and the timetable for their return was unsure. And i asked you about philip rivers coming back and you explain to me that full of good information. Fleshing out everything that was happening and also mentioning. The team was still optimistic. Maybe they could get him back for the season. Sure enough lo. And behold there now saying they expect them both to open the season as the starter as starters if it continues to trend this way so right yeah it it well. I've not used the word expects. But i can tell you from talking to every virtually ninety percent of the people you should talk to in this instance That it is training even better find. Greg told Calling wolf nfl. After i you know reported were reported That and he said. I don't mind telling you you know carson's doing both guys. They're doing exceedingly well. It's it's basically what we hope for. Plus he added the word. Plus and i can tell you That as of this weekend After this weekend You know what i was told was. You know you'll see you'll hear some good things coming this week and sure enough when yesterday when we focused on sam earlier now splitting reps jacob season eastern and they both have good practices yesterday the backup guys young guys but who lo and behold who is out in the field for the first time standing there with no boot no foot device walking around and you could barely notice a limp with carson wentz and so this is the second week of his rest since his surgery next week starts rehab and If that goes as expected. And i can tell you. They're expecting good things and the same is true of clinton nelson. They're all pro guard and we one is very much in the picture out. There can't be setbacks and this may be a little bit of a pain management issue but they're pretty positive about this behind the scenes. And even frank were right on. The record is pretty positive about it now. He said he didn't know but it'd be one or two but but At the same time it's it's far better than what everybody was saying. Oh my goodness you could be out there. we ate. That still happens if the other injury. But right now the expectation Or certainly the way he's training is they. They think we want more possible than say not return until week it to me the biggest problem with carson wentz. He's such a tough guy. And i was there in. La when he destroyed his leg and then didn't say anything and completed two more passes after he should've been in hospital thing. You gotta worry about with a guy like that coming back from injury and we saw it with back on hard knocks last night at a more dacca's wanting to do more wanting to do more put me in coach and all that and wound up with another injury but after finally throwing the ball. Do you think jack is out of the woods with his shoulder. i'm gonna go based off And i have such high regard for tim. Hasselbeck one of our nfl analyst and former quarterback Who's had a similar injury and phil simms a former super bowl. Mvp and a good friend Formerly the new york giants says you know and phil says you know when it said you know the was known for having a great arm and arm never got tired. No problems except the nineteen eighty nine when he hurt his ankle and tried to play through it and that was the only time his arm got sore and he said he and of course in the playoffs. He was terrible. So these are things that you just have to. You do have to manage it. So i can't. I don't think it's like well simple rest and he'll get back in vigo good as ever because there's still noted guy dislocated his ankle. He's been rehabbing that ankle. That's your that's your plant foot and the one you just eat twist on when you throw the football and So i think we'll be okay. I think the cowboys internally think it'd be okay but if we could it could be a story. I think mike mccarthy will keep them on a bit of a pitch count as we go along which would only be smart. And i just go back a little bit max on On carson wentz. 'cause we were talking about you. You mentioned the tornado acl. But i i know that. The eagles eagles battle with winds behind the scenes Especially the first couple of years with well y- acl and and then the stress fracture in his back eventually Sat him down the next year. I can tell you. The eagles basically said the guy has a high pain threshold and the high alpha drive to play even when he's hurting. He's no question tough guy so so the culture aware of that but even the my understanding even the dodgers have said you know once they had the surgery and i. I think the surgery was exactly what they were open for Was that you know this. Might be pain. Management issue for both guys as opposed to injure it type of surgery more. What just personally for you. Which rookie are looking forward to seeing the most. Oh gosh so. Many of them I gotta admit. I have a fondness for devante smith Because you really on a size about one hundred sixty six pounds. And i know he's injured for a couple of weeks but i just think that you know guys special i mean i and i have some bias For personal reasons with alabama. Not because i wanted to alabama heck. I didn't even finish. Do college of california nominated for two nominated for. Yeah you know. Don't know anybody. But but i can tell you. This is that what is fascinating. Because that whole concept we just saw isaac bruce Enshrined in the hall of fame and marvin. Harrison's already there. And i think bruce weighed like one seventy three when he was at the combine so I'm really excited about him. I'm excited about trevor lawrence. I wanna see is he. Everybody i talked to said yes. He's the number one quarterback. It was a rare year. Where every gm i talked you said yes but there. There were very in degrees of excitement about him and news. Yasim though i wanna see just how good he's going to be. And i certainly am looking forward to seeing what Justin fields does with the bears. Andy dalton is a diff- and he's a good quarterback but if doesn't feels is gonna show something what we expect and one of my most trusted personnel guys on quarterbacks told me very early on in three years he thinks just feels will be the best out of the law. I mean if you can pick up a. They've never had a special quarterback in my lifetime. The bears if you can pick up a special quarterback at eleven. Oh my god what they find. They would finally gone any good. What's that look at any good now. That's not my lifetime morbid more. I'm forty eight years old. I don't remember. Sid luck mendel. Oh that's that's even on my lifetime. The great chris mortensen ladies and gentlemen. You gotta come on this show like regularly this. I needed. ask all right on do roger. i want the ban on chris. Mortensen that you for some reason put down. He's obviously grady's reputation precedes him and yet for some reason. You have you've Blacklisted him from the show. I have no idea. Why raj. But i want it listed whatever it is before i take this upstairs. All right thanks. We'll see what we can do. We love more. Thanks more straight talk wireless. I just love not only does he have all the info but he's always underneath just a little impatient with my football fan questions. You feel that raj. You know what i mean like. He's a little bit. Look kid. I know all this stuff all right. I don't know about these this year. Asking the kind of question that a fan at a bar would ask us something. Let me tell you that. I can't get michael tom when you ask them to. Michael thomas he wound up agreeing with you. But when i listened to his dominated the answer i don't know love it. Straight talk wireless has ruled out five g. coverage nationwide and you can get a samsung galaxy. Eighth thirty to five g. For only two hundred ninety nine dollars. No contract all on america's best networks straight talk wireless five g. capable device required actual availability coverage and speed may vary coming up on. No doubt was. I a hulkah- maniac back in the day. How great is it. When you choose your favorite movies to watch ziprecruiter's invite to imply a to apply not invite to imply that would be ridiculous to apply. Lets you pick your favorite movies. Sorry your favorites from the best candidates. Not your favorite movies. 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Helping you discover the road ahead. Good you're more driven helping you discover the road ahead good. You're more driven usually. That's where a pause for imaging raj dual more time helping you discover the road ahead. Good year more. Okay here we go. Now we're playing no doubt the game where in where in which roger asks me a question and all have to do is either say nacion where i disagree or no doubt meaning. I agree and i've never done it successfully once not a whole segment. I get category websites. Such a such a nerd with such an arm waving opinion about every damn topic that i get too excited and i forget to say either. No doubt an awesome without further ado playing. No doubt what's up all right. Let's listen to show mike tannenbaum. Yeah i think it's daniel jones. Just because they put so many weapons around him allen and if he plays well they are really set up for the next ten years. I love saquon barkley. I expect them to come back from the acl. But let's face it all begins and ends with the quarterback. All right now. Max you agree that barclays a better running back then. Daniel jones is a quarterback but the giants should prioritize daniel jones over bark as you heard our friend tenenbaum's nas son and i don't think it's an either or they go hand in. Hand this symbiotic relationship. But if you're going to make me say bark mayor danny jones we'll say barclay. Because of his effect on daniel jones could presence of saquon barkley where he can break break a touchdown off where you from anywhere on the field. Every time he touches the ball so you need to devote resources a safety. He's got you got you gotta linebacker. Someone's gotta do you got to do something to stop them. Get creative right. But also because he can catch passes out of the backfield. It's not so easy. You can't and daniel jones using play action with saquon barkley right. Read option all of the sudden. You can't you can't stack the box. You can lot of stuff you can't tonight and that'll make some jones better. Yeah all right all right all right. Hey max we've got a birthday in the house. Go rhino nephew slipping. That's right. you hear this on. This of course is hogan's theme. Somebody walk out to now. The hawks are turned sixty eight. So max tell me come on tell me you were one of those hulkamania back today. No doubt oh doubt. I'd i'd hold on when hulk hogan broke the camel clutch madison square garden and beat iron sheik. Do you understand. I was watching. Wwf back then. When bob backlands champion and always warring right he beat big john stud that was a bs. Disqualification of big. John studies getting killed in that fight. Anyway when bob backlit who'd he lose it to sargent slaughter but at any rate it wound up with the iron sheik and hulk hogan won the title by beating the iron sheik. that's when wrestling took off. It took off after that whole hogan yes of course whole cardiac every single time. I know you also route for china and the olympics over the united states and your name isn't really raj groves. look this member. This one and his hand would fall to and his hand with all member of hits the canvas for the third time the rest gonna stop it three and right before i hit the canvas. He gives you the up. Yes oh who wasn't a hulkamania move on a great twitter followed by hilarious. Yes hey jimmy. G. will be the forty niners starter all season long. Nah son he's to injury-prone whether or not trae lance is given the job and then holds onto it. I don't think that jimmy garoppolo starts sixteen games is just not as mo profile and. I suspect at some point with the niners may underachieve a little compared to expectations a lot of people. Picking them to win the division. And if they're like a five hundred team game below five hundred. It's week. Eleven and jimmy g. gets hurt and trae lance takes over and they're more dynamic because he has a better arm. Maybe jimmy doesn't get the job back so there you go all right fair enough and finally max. You agree with ben simmons. You mentioned earlier that the map should trade for that word on the street is he's going to sit out until he's traded from the seventy sixers. You like it no doubt. But not for simmons for the seventy sixers. What's the real danger for. The sixers simmons gets hurt right if you hold them out. You ain't gonna get hurt. The downside to that is wanted to reestablish value. And you do that even though it seems obvious like yeah but everyone already knows that there's a difference between knowing it and seeing it you understand it emotionally differently when you see it and when the league sees everything that simmons can do except shoot during the regular season his value on the trademark it will bounce back and if he's working on his shot and even hits a couple of jump shots that value comes roaring back. Because if ben simmons has ever just a below average jump shot but one that he takes immediately an mvp candidate. I did it. I said no doubt or nacion every time every single time. I'm the champion of this segment now brought to you by capital one auto navigator where you can find a car get prequalified instantly and see your real monthly payment without impacting your credit score capital one. What's in your wallet. Terms and conditions apply find out more capital one dot com slash auto navigator coming up. I see your calls. Last week is next last week. Is your take eight eight eight say. Espn seven to nine three seven. Seven six door dash with dash pass right now. Dash past members or taking ten dollars off groceries alcohol pet food and more needed nightcap. Ten dollars off got a cough get relief delivered for less. Want surprise your crush. Send a gift and save try dash pass for free and get special savings exclusive menu items and zero dollar delivery fees year round. 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He's probably played with an all of his career at least the best teammates. I agree in terms of the way. The talent is distributed especially among other teammates. Like as i said. Dwayne wade was top. Five player in the game when lebron got there but it didn't turn out that season that he was a top he was not one of the i would say best five players in the nba. That you're dwayne wade. Bosh were never really perceived that way a is considered in different years a top five player has been a top five or six player most of his career and westbrook at one point was considered a top five six player and i would argue in the last three or four years. He's hasn't been considered that way. But because you have to average in the weight of the whole season second half he's played like an mvp last three or four years westbrook. Second half it's just the first half. He's always with new teammates new teams. Yes to figure it out. I agree with kyri is just a sense. Such as insatiable player but kevin love was never confused with an mvp and by the way neither was kyri so like of his four other big three teammates yet. One guy playing it at thought. Maybe that's an mvp caliber player in weight. And it didn't turn out. He was and right now. He's playing with to potentially pablo in pennsylvania. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio matt. Fantastic you show. Hey what you said last week about going to pull one like i like what you said. Because i love vinson's dollars you know. He could beat a robin luca on but is posing is good enough to get. I don't think so. I don't think ours inga's because if the injury history can land you ben simmons but i do think in maybe a three team. Trade porzingas can be the centerpiece. You can get enough back for for him that you can get a simmons trade done maybe porzingas and then it's gonna take something else to draft. Pick something else and then maybe a three team deal you. Could you could land. I'm really thinking just of like the weight of the value. Total value of the stuff. You have to trade. If you'd have more or less you balanced it on the scales and it was about even the stuff you have to trade on the one hand and simmons on the other then you could always find additional trade partners to work out details. That's how i'm thinking of it. Ufc developments dana white said steep amyotrophic former heavyweight champ. Who franson got out. But before then had made several title defenses in a beaten and ghana. And you know. He was like the target for john jones. Who's considered the goat by many if not most in emmy history the certainly in ufc history. John jones was targeting steep but then once deep lost in ghana not so much now in god who's the champ and cyril gone was amazing against derrick lewis is the interim champion and they will fight to crown and undisputed heavyweight champion apparently and the ufc. It seems like dana wants steep and john jones remains to be seen if john jones wants tepa because when steve was the champ there's huge reward and beating him but if steep is considered like the fourth wheel out of the top four at this moment. 'cause he's coming off a knockout before that he'd lost a call me in the not too distant past and you know what does john truly have to gain from that on the other hand. I would say this if you have a tournament. It had heavyweight right now in ghana and gone and then steep and john jones though winner of those two fights particularly. If it's john jones versus say like if you want up the steep a who rubber match that wouldn't be as big as john jones engano. If in gano somehow beats gone and john jones also beat steep a like a john jones in ghana phobia monster but any permutation. Those four guys would be great and apparently steep as already accepted. Yeah you know ready to sign and john. Jones's side is the one going off the steep is dangerous fight and at this point maybe you represents too much risk for the reward but like i don't remember personally having as much interest in the heavyweight division at any point in heavyweight history and these guys are getting bigger and more powerful and athletic. You know you're getting in two hundred sixty pounds. And even john jones who's the lightest of the mall six foot four long levers st base to forty and really good and gone might be the best out of all of them and he's six five to forty five the good time to be may fan in the heavyweight division especially to time. It takes spencer in indiana spencer in indiana. You have thirty seconds. Go was looking through the free agency loose on nfl. And i seen a veteran on there that someone is not picking up. they should and it should be josh. Norman old right for who. Who do you want to pick up. Josh norman Maybe colts thing is. Josh has got to be pushing thirty five something like that just knowing probably something like thirty five year old thirty five years old and generally corners as they approach their mid thirties or not. There was a guy on tv. I saw wants to keep talking about a cliff. Fallen off a cliff. You didn't turn out to be right about that prediction. But normally he was right about everything. So i can use that Comparison he's also very handsome handsome guy. You know what i'm talking about. Rush max kellerman show. Espn radio sirius. Xm channel eighty wherever. You get your podcast. Download the podcast enormous credit for that. Mex chipped podcast.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1) 190508

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1) 190508

"Go. Little Michael to start today. Guys. Good start to the deg, everybody morning value guys. Good night. I was driving this morning from north Orange County south Orange County a South County guy real oh. Drove in from south had to go. I did have to go. I did have to go through all of the directional Orange County's. We're good this morning. You guys are good. Yeah. It was it was a blow out Tuesday. Are you going to the beach after the show Elsie? Skateboarding. No. Typically, not a short sky what I'm going to gym in new main really short teams in the knees, though, make our come up to me. Oh, man knees old, man. Subsidies, not sagging. For his knees. His ankles look like his Cavs straight up and down. Usually, you know, you have that problem. You usually get I got a little curve. I got basketball as we don't talk about Sasken ball league. Everybody have never heard that one. That's a new one the new to because high eight hot. Because right booth. I'm looking at booty. I'm looking at Hawaii Lena right now, look he got a baseball and his cat. So I don't know what you mean basketball. He's one of the top players in the world. I wanna top players at my local YMCA. Coli of the local Y dropping bars right now see needs to do L needs to put a pack of cigarettes in his socks. Oh, yeah. Right there on the side box, right? I thought you're supposed to rule your cigarettes up on your sleeve Neider Snyder. I'm not doing brothers usually put a sign in the sock. Yes. Can we stop Barry delete this played a high and to highlight on this side? The biggest story today. Go. Quickly. Really? Hey, all my good news as you all my lights to minister. Glued to the TV. Watching Liverpool pulled off the improbable. I'm not even Liverpool fan but being down three nil on aggregate coming home and good scoring four and now to go into the Champions League final key. And that's something. So in other news. That's why Elsie warriors soccer soccer uniform idea because it's always code in here. It is always I know you guys don't follow the beautiful Fiona t-shirt take this off, and workout and go workout. You follow the beautiful game. But I know you saw the headlines everywhere Liverpool, right? And like the improbable big headlines must've done to different site. I saw the headline, but I didn't click on it. Because I thought it was phrased for click bait because it says the team collapsed, and is soccer is just hard to collapse goes are hard to come by. So for he collapsed to happen. I was like you probably just click baking, I'm not fall. It was three Neil. What was the final for? But. So you have to play two games, home and home so aggregate scoring so he just take the total score. Okay. So they were at Barcelona. Messi scored is beautiful goal last week only one three nothing. It's over and our best player. Salah's not gonna play. The only player that at Travis knows and Liverpool messes home scores within the first eight minutes, and it's just an avalanche after that. It was a complete. The aggregated news always lost. Maybe one just play one more game and called best to three. Why why do we? Because they're from different leagues. Why would you give one home field advantage? So it's aggregates Champions League. Baseball was aggregate the season. Short a lot Shorewood. No messy a few standing downstairs at Starbucks align. Well, you'd have to look down because he's like four feet tall. He's a little man. He's a little teeny guy. What twenty five eighty nine on the high nose? Ball games last night. Neither one of them particularly good. The raptors all over the Sixers. They end up winning that game by thirty six points in here's Jimmy Butler. Take on the whole thing we lane in. Egg. No other way to put it. But the great thing about it. We get to go home and continue to battle and try to even out again, and then come back here and try to still went on the road for gangs. I mean, there's say about getting beat down like that thirty six points. It was over early. They were never in the game. The best players for Philadelphia really never showed up it was ugly. And I think when you look at it you talk about guy you say best players. Joel Embiid has there. I dunno defacto leader. I'll our Holly in say, he's the guy that they probably looked to a lot of energy and a lot of different things that he's brings to the table. But when he's not a hundred percent, and he's moping around filling the certain type away that sorta affects the rest of the team because they see it they walk into it. And I say sales is damn we in for loan when because you can look, and you can tell when you player, and you have your leaders are the guys that you look to when in tough times. Yes, not living up to their side of the bargain. You feel like you. You don't have chance. No matter. How great you may be. But you also know that we need him to be a successful as we want to be when he's not living up to it. We're probably gonna struggle. Look. The fact of the matter is guys get sick and guys get hurt. And they go out if you go out on the court or the field, the baseball diamond, you're going to get judged based on how you're you perform d you don't get a caveat. Well, you know, what he had gastroenteritis you know, what he had a respiratory infection. If you're out there, we're going to judge you based on you waco's. Well, there were question marks, and my pain about this team to to begin with, you know, and I remember talking to a mean during the first round playoffs. Now is just like I don't know what that is. And I don't think is coming out of the east because I can't tell you definitively whose leader of that squad. I dunno. If dwelling bead another Jimmy Butler. I don't know if Ben Simmons not the coach like houses team defined because when Iskin. Real. That's the guy you looked to to keep you focused to get you line of fire you up. So if they don't know if I can't tell who the guy is is hard for me to believe, they know the guy is, and you know, we talked earlier with Roger doesn't know anything about basketball. We're trying to explain to him that Jimmy Butler can't be the guy because what he just got there and to he's probably gonna leave. Right. So he's the guy the processes screwed up. He's the best player on the team M beat tongue. I mean, he's the best player on the. Yes. He is. He's he's right. Really? Is he the best player in the Tuesday, better key? Jimmy Butler is pretty good really good. But see be embezzle. But yes, especial but hell inconsistent question. No consists when you hell inconsistent. How can you be the best player on the team when there's no real consistency? We like the talent K o seven feet tall. He can put the ball three. You know, he looks a little out of shape right now. He got wide. Hips. They'll sort of things. Out of four different type of body compared to Johnson. Well, everybody's got a different type of body compared to we look at his special. But when you look at it, it's hard for me to say, he's the best player. I personally I think Jimmy Butler is their best player. He has the most potential like the upside all that source like that by that. But Embiid is the guy that's going to set that tone. And this is something that we were talking about a little bit towards the end of the show yesterday. And it's he's when it's good and beads fun, and he's Shokhin around. He's making jokes about the warriors bone a three one lead a couple of years ago. And he's yukking it up with Ben Simmons about how he caught I forget who it was. He got somebody with an elbow was Dudley in that early series. And they're kind of laughing good time. And and all of a sudden when it gets real into two and going on the road to Toronto in the conference semifinals is about as real as you're going to get at this point in the season. And he just doesn't show up. He goes out there and never gets it out of first gear and key. Maybe you're right. Maybe it's more of a potential thing about him being the best player. But the fact of the matter is the energy of that team. What they bring to the quarterly night is going to be determined by what Embiid does. And he just didn't show up last night. He he did. And and and you could probably attribute that to a lot of different things. Whether it's injury with his sickness, you know in sometimes athletes, they have never been that. It's never been through something like that. They don't know how to get over it. They don't know how to put it aside and continue to keep going. We've seen guys play with fevers. We seen guys play with injuries that came back fast. And we seen guys get injured severely in games. And still continue hobbling. They will their way to whatever it is victory. That's what they do before. Whatever reason is not working for him beat and it ain't working for Ben Simmons, either took five shop five. Sorry. I mean, Justin Turner had a massive night last night. And he might not even have been the best player on his team. We'll tell you who it is next on this day this morning. That's a good one. Not yet. Hey, pop was in the building Dodger Stadium last night. Indeed, the lead singer BTS Yoon, gay, right, Raj union, John thought to you. Tommy. He was there. He was there. Yeah. Speaking of that. He was there has LeBron James Bentiu dodger game signing has been one. I feel like I've seen footage of him at a dodger game, I wouldn't swear to it. But I feel like I've seen that. I know I've seen them at the Rams ram. The Rams Kansas City Monday night. Right. A different deal. I'm just talking about dodging. I wouldn't bet my house on it. But I feel like a half a half. Okay. I don't I don't recall, but I do know that quite showed up at a dodger game people encourage people in crazy. He's coming. He's wasn't quite in the pavilion in the outfield. He was just chilling max. Player gets gets them behind home plate seats. To do what? But the problem is the seating is too tight. There's no elbow room in the pavilion for me. Yeah. I feel like the seven Chris, you know, I can you can store up the town of research on the eagles showed Nova Brana Dodger Stadium just him wearing dodgers at once at Staples Center. Maybe that's what I saw. I. Yeah. I just I was wondering because of a guy from the group is there wonder when you derailed bid with review and all that. But thanks Rio was the man last night and Justice. Hit three home runs last night. Just internal is locked in. Again. He's just Turner all over again. He got off to that slow. Start took him forever to hit that first home run. He finally hit it. And then he hits three more last night. He had six RBI's. He scored three runs. And this was number three. Three home run game for Justin Turner. And I'm not sure that he was the best player in the building last night. That may not did review key is just on fire. He is he is doing some one is the dodgers doing some wonders nine Neil as rows likes to say victory over the Atlanta Braves as as Turner turned in chest high fastball at ninety four miles an hour to high max got fry in. Hit it out the park left center field in his first attempt. Then crush the down the middle. Eighty eight mile an hour is not really a fastball. Right. And it's a little little little softball Kershaw. Well from Josh my cousin, Mike Tomlin. To straight away center in the fifth. He came up one last time with two on and two outs. In the bottom of the eighth and hit another eight mile an hour. I guess he called him medium fast ball to left center. The three runs total twelve hundred and nine feet average one hundred and two miles off the bat Turner, carry the three sixty four point three sixty four on base percentage through April. But his batting average was only two fifty and his slugging percentage was only two eighty four Chelsea that's call. It a slow start. Just want the slow start. He's organization made possible by Tommy's nail salon downtown come in today for a free buff and his perfect French tip. Tom Zale on. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Tom every turn. Sponsored they've been on here before they have never got a French. Like a shiny buff. I like a good buff. Got to get my nose. Well, I'm gonna wait 'til Thursday. When a haircut comes go ahead. I don't do the never gotten. Medic you're gonna have to take no. Araj has and you can get my legs wax, though. It's move eight Travis you wanna fill them when I get 'em wax. They are smooth. Thank you. They're smooth. They're so Browns and smoothens off cuticle issues. That's the reason why I do 'cause my grow really, I'm fine. We're going to take Travis for Manny petty one day start the manning. You don't wanna know I'll give you the shiny buff to. No, I don't think I want that. I was just thinking man of your statue. And your wife, you would just sit there and white goes frequently. No, I think she would schedule you guys just sit there and talk for our before you go to lunch or something like that. Sex in the city. Yeah. I don't go to fancy place drink champagne. Champagne sounds fun. I like champagne. Review was the best player in the park last night. Justin Turner, hit three runs, which doesn't happen. All that often. But he wasn't even the best player on his own team Jin Ryu through. What is I mean? I it's so rare nowadays he pitched the entire game. He had a key game four hit shutout didn't walk anybody. He struck out six along the way, he still hasn't walked anybody at home. He's only walked to players all year long. And he hasn't given up more than two runs in any earned runs in any of his starts this season. He's the best pitcher on that team. And we're done talking about it. I I need to knock on some wood. So he's the best. Yes. Because you know, the one thing that concerns, of course, health health. Yeah. He was out too much last season. Because we're growing injury. He had a groin injury already this season. Travis. You're a pitcher was was a catcher, what is it about the motion of pitchy. That for you is just a constant earn. When it comes to his groin other no stretches or anything, you can do yoga or anything like that to make sure that you don't have the kind of issue. So I'll go back to some that. We were talking about the last week of the week before we're about CCC bathrooms and how good he was the one season cease about the was not particularly good is when he dropped a bunch of weight reuse, big guy. And I think what would probably help him. Maybe a little more healthy is maybe being a little leaner. But in fat. I'm calling him a big guy. And all of a sudden if you would makes him so good is that's how he pitches. That's how he plays. And I think it's kind of a given take sort of thing. Yes. He could probably become more limber and do these other things. But I don't know if it affects his ability to get guys out, and I think this is just going gonna have to take what you get with this guy. And he's not he's not going to give you forty starts year. He's not gonna give you thirty five. Is not going to give you thirty very often. But when he goes out there. No one hits him. Well, you got to you know, you start talking about changing someone style. You gotta remember. A lot of power from pitching not only comes from your own. But also comes to me legs in your growing and things that you gotta push off the mouth, right? And you're not able to do that try full strength. The you're gonna struggle. Chris sale is a hundred and five pounds and he can throw just as hard. Yeah. There's different ways to get their way to give sale is all about torque and angles in in twist. And but even at even at torque still the same thing, I'm saying you pushing in power coming off the mound. It's the same thing. It's just like snapping tennis racket, you you you can hit return serve at one hundred. Plus if you hit that ball right in the right place in Iraq. If you miss in their same torque shame. I just knew about tennis. We all knew that the thing is is that is great to pitch a for his shutout in may. Yeah. But if you constantly worried if this pitch is going to be the pitch to her groin again, you have to address it some kind of way, otherwise your best ability, which is available to isn't available. He's that guy on for. Unfortunately, he's a guy that every time he goes out there. You know that that's possibility. He just he gets hurt a lot. I, and I don't know if that's ever going to be different. I just think it's the reality class. Maybe y. House and waiting. Quiet. Maybe. But he's he's the best pitcher on that team moved. I'm close. Yes, rush. He's the best pitcher. Nosy? You know, what the best day is hump day. Sometimes he's. Go home. That's right. It's hoped they show. The people are at celebrate hope they win giving away celebrated four pack of tickets to the LA AFC on Thursday may sixteen this Thursday. But Knicks Thursday sixteen Elliot and FC. Dallas do Travis do go head to head at the collar -fornia stadium at seven PM. Folks. You got time to get off work make it over here to tell you a little drink with me if you need to now, here's how you can win. Call this number here. Eight seven seven seven ten ESPN caller seven who can answer this question. Who does Keyshawn think is the best player on this currently constructed seventy Sixers the best player? Listen during the next hour for another chance to win a good one. And this is brought to you by. It's almost like he had they paid for. On speaking. Congratulations to our friend and colleague back. See I wanted to do that Bill later. Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna save it. Congratulations to him for something. I thought you were going to talk about he got back to back player of the month for MLS. I mean, there's a lot of reasons to Sabah, Casey key devil soon. He's all over he's replacing saving as the top dog had college. He's everywhere. He's been every all right or old friend. Max Kellerman had something to say about Kobe. The got people very upset. We'll tell you what it is neck JJ. Chris edited chair whatever it is. You know, what they say about Johnny Gill? Yes. That's the game in the business that what they say. That's something else. They say oh. That's different. I won't point. I wanted to go for the title. And I was like now I'm gonna have it dangling a carrot. Makes me. Makes me uncomfortable. Every time. About he's listening. Yes, he'll he'll sit there with this is half open. Catch something suites by he'll look. Thank you. So one twenty five to one eighty nine last night, the raptors take a three two lead in that series. And quite Leonard has been the best player in that series. Since it started at twenty one points last night yesterday max Keller and said on his show that he believes that Koby Bryant or I should say quite Leonard is a better player than Kobe Bryant. Here's max, it's actually a better player under pressure than the great Kobe Bryant Kobe, no one had more heart than Kobe. Kobe is not scared of anything. But because Kobe was the best bad shot maker who ever lived. He would take a lot of bad shots the pressure because he knew he could make them. But just look at how often he made them compared to what Kawai is doing Kawai takes higher percentage shots and makes them more often under pressure than Kobe Bryant. Did I'm not making it up when you try to deride. I know you're both going to just assert that I'm wrong. But when you say, oh, just can't look at the numbers. I understand statistics or records of events when they say in late and close games Koby Bryant shot inefficiently his team got less efficient. Those numbers are records of events that occurred. We could go back and watch the video, and you will see they all occurred Kawai Leonard under pressure ain't missing. He's already been a finals MVP and that was before he was in his prime coup. Why Leonard is also playing defense under pressure like is one of the greatest he's in the conversation for greatest defensive player who ever live. You don't even really think about off except right now shooting sixty percent from the field in the playoffs finals MVP before you entered his prime shooting sixty in the playoffs. Best offensive player, including Katie was also in his prime, but not playing with Steph and clay so under pressure. Yes. Why is better than Kobe was key? Why are we play this? It's not facts backed could it possibly be just because you look at numbers tick. Cystic saying stop he record of events that doesn't mean anything you gotta look at the Atari of game. You gotta look at everything that is going into the defense society office society assistant, how people play around you better here. All of a sudden you get your teammates involve just because Kobe Bryant may take certain bad shots that go in a bad shot. If it goes in. The other night. What are we in somebody saying that's a litter? Yeah. Daimler? That's what Mashhad then they go in you guys propose saying it was a bad shot. I think it was only one. I'm not about. Say it's a bad shot at that point. They could take take a better do something different than a better selection of that particular shot, but guess what it went in. So therefore, it's not a bad shot can win is side. But that's not what you were saying. No, that's not what she was saying. You say it saying well. Not a bad shot because he had just hit nine damn three. He was a scorching high. But I do think that there is a difference. I don't want to because I want to say on the Kobe and the quite I really don't stupid. But the idea of just because the result is good doesn't mean that the decision was sometimes you make the wrong decision and it works out. Okay. Just like sometimes you made the exact right decision. And it doesn't work doesn't mean is a bad decision. Means it didn't work, but if I'm making this, but I'm making the same decisions over and over and over, and it's something that you don't like because you say is bad, but I'm still doing it. And I'm still hitting and I'm still doing it. The right way is working for me time stuff Curry's half court shots shots. Everybody basketball trying to shoot from that little line. Will it doesn't make Steph curry though, Steph curry makes those shots and people or to make them too. I understand max wants to get an argument started and he has his own take on situation. I take. Yeah. Exactly. But that that's not cool is not a first of all is hard to compare people in general, it is it's very hard to compare athletes. A great one another. I mean, it's just it's just hard because you start point not numbers numbers doesn't tell everything I go. I go back to the NFL to people's careers in the NFL. Some guys got mind boggling numbers other guys got less a number. I'd rather have that guy because he's more fishing at what we wanna do the other guy, it it takes a lot to get him to the next level. I wasn't gonna say to get him off the takes it takes a lot to get into the next liking get you right now, you know, it again, I understand what max is trying to say don't. But you can't compare those two you just kill because he and I knew the reason why did anything for this going on because I didn't click on it. 'cause I knew it was ridiculous click bait. And now that I've heard it is ridiculous clip bait. Because the one caveat that he very intelligent left out of the conversation is the wind he focused on who. And the what? But he didn't say the win and the wind is the most important part why because Kobe bean Bryant hit some of these awful is talking about in the finals we're talking for chips. Yeah. Linda has won a finals MVP. He's been to what one two NBA. Finally, he's been three NBA finals cared. One care the one he has never an any of those NBA final teens been the sole focus of those teams. So while you're trying to characterize him as clutch, you're meeting. The fact that he got to be air quoted clutch by being the third Bannon. The third man on the squad that won chips or loss chips. That's not clutch. That's taken advantage of an opportunity say then the say for semi planned defense on the brunt. Then say Kevin. Durant is running around with the Golden State Warriors. So I'm like, okay. Kevin Durant is the number one player in the world right now. What are you talking about? Don't play that again, Ronn. Everybody get so fired up with really love it. I love my friend. But he's trying to get some, you know, crazy about Kobi's China rattlesn- cages, so the Lakers, they need a new guy. They need a guy to make those shots and Karrar Karai. That's a Koran. On the damn coach first Karai is a combination of coli and kyri. Karai? We don't get him about that we available. You might be playing his last game in the Celtics uniform tonight in his teammates, reportedly, maybe not upset to see him go. We'll tell you about it next. Travis get so excited. I love it off at all Wednesday wolf on Twitter wanted to hear this with this. What can you do nothing? You can do you can't do anything. There's nothing. We can't do. We couldn't throw throwing him sections. Just. Man. What was the situation? Why were you so upset man we're playing against? The New England Patriots opening day in nineteen ninety nine. I think it was and we were winning gang in Vinny Testaverde goes down. We're winning. Rick Meyer comes in. Lookout Notre Dame Joan. He comes in. And we're we're winning and everything's the way it's supposed to be. But we got caught in a fog where all of a sudden the end of the season. We thought we are going to Super Bowl ninety eight. We lose the Denver. We come back the next year whole team we're rolling we're we're pound in New England. Then all of a sudden any gets hurt. And it just the man it was like everything just stopped everything stopped. There are season was done. The first week. Rick comes in he checks out of a play in. 'cause throw you know, he's throwing the ball. And we need to be running. He throws a pick. So, you know, at the end, I just let into well. I mean, that's a perfect example of how important the quarterback is because one guy goes down, and you're still there the rest of the team still there. But if the guy that's making the decisions and the guy that's supposed to get you the ball is it right to the page. He checked out of it. No, no, no, no better. Members can just today. Right. Thirty five base check with me. Halfback read X dagger. Why are we call an ex dagger? And we need to yards the banana. Oh my God. When he threw it into got tipping picked. CBS got failed at ground. Chase to do. All right. The Celtics season is on the line. They can get closed out by the bucks in Milwaukee for game five the bucks got blown out in the first game there. They've they've taken the Celtics apart. They've looked like the far better team. And now, obviously if this is the end of the line, Kyrie Irving questions about him this this series has been a perfect microcosm of the Celtics season. Where all of a sudden good, and all of a sudden, everything that's gone bad has gone bad. And now to hear Jalen say it, kyri Irving. Celtic teammates are not going to be disappointed. If he decides to go hairs the distinction that the Celtics had to make and I said his the day that they side curry they used to be a patient's face team where the ball in the movement dictate who got the shop. Kyrie Irving is a ball dominated isolation. Type of player they they used to be a team L their center led them in. Okay. That was their style. Now they've chosen that give. The water kyri, take them home. He's shown that he can't be the best player on a contending team. And I agree with you. He's done in Boston. And you read this this teammates, help them pack. Oh, yeah. They can't wait to go Terry Rozier camp area. Right. That is not a reunion -dorsements, Kyrie Irving. And hearing that that he's not a guy that could be the best player on a championship team that his teammates or willing to help him pack and get him out of there. And that he's done in Boston. Those are all things that Jalen just said he's got to go somewhere. Do you wanna see him come here? What he's saying scaring you off especially the part about him not being able to be the best player on a championship team. No. I'm not. I'm not scared for two years skimping on that. Yeah. You're scared for years three plus. Yeah. Because if the bronze here, I'm okay with that. If you somehow choir Anthony, Davis along the way, I'm okay with that. But to think that kyri four years from now can be the leader of the. Team based on everything that I've seen in his career thus far. I'm not willing to sign up for two hundred million dollars. I'm not willing to give him a Chris Paul deal. Because at the end, Chris Paul was really good prior to getting that deal, but you knew in short window. Brain big dollars. So you knew that was going to close that gap was gonna close real fast. And that's what you're going to potentially with Kyrie from a production standpoint as well as a health, and there's the other part about Kyrie. But Jalen said at the end of this team mates will help him pack that if you're going to be that guy that guy that walks into a room her hand point here. He comes you better be the guy that kills it. When that ball goes up, you better be the guy. Look, I'm going to deal with this guy. I don't like him. I don't wanna have dinner with him. I don't wanna watch a movie with them. I don't wanna hang out with. But when it comes time to play I want him on my team, these he's the guy that you roll your eyes at when you see him, and he can't be the best player on a best team. That's that's a bad combination. You know, Danny aines for all the great things that he's done for that franchise. The one opportunity that he missed was trying to go ahead and trae hiree for Anthony Davis last season Packers packing together. Because once it became clear that you were straight that you actually good. That you didn't necessarily meet that a became expendable, but he got tempted because he figured what if we got to game seven in Eastern Conference finals without him. If we had them we're in line for championship. And I understand that rationale is it seems pretty sound. But that's also the flip side. And that is you're looking at trying to get Anthony Davis, and you had your eyes on Anthony Davis for a minute. Now, you can't tell me you couldn't have package Al Horford and Kyrie for Anthony Davis last season. And this whole thing will be looking different because you already were straight on a perimeter. He was good on a perimeter. That's how you got there. You didn't need as Jalen points out. So accurately a ball dominant guard because you have movement and that movement allowed us to see what Jason Tatum could be allowed Terry Rosiere to be with Terry Rozier could be more coming in with big buckets that was bombed movement. And now sudden you're playing. A two man game with only one man. And that's part of the reason why they're struggling they look totally different. So if he's leaving that means he's got to go somewhere else. What are the odds in Vegas telling us that he's gonna land rush? It's funny. You ask Travis. Ooh. You didn't get to go. For me. You know, what I'm saying Keyshawn Vegas has the odds. We're kyri is going to land at the top five teams is going to be a quickie here where do you stand? We're twenty five. Yes, that's myself defending champ. Oh, I have a beat the guy from Tanna. You only have a few seconds. So you could let's go. So your first answer. Oh, you didn't say, okay. LA lakers. LA Lakers are fourth on the list at a plus seven. So that's a long shot to land m l z would you like to take a gun? I'm gonna go with the New York knickerbockers you say like they first team. They number one. I mean, I'm saying like they need somebody. All right. Well, they are plus two hundred their second on the list. Travis would you like to guess, I wouldn't. Dick, dick, dick, though, the Brooklyn Brooklyn. Nets are number one bonus points of drivers they are favorite selenium at plus two fifty Keyshawn to teams this team. He's on Boston. That's a good one. Plus three fifty L rounded out. I'm gonna go the clippers. Oh, that's right for the first time we have. We have winters winters. But but I got the last one second no belt this show. I see champ had to against the draw. Don't you watch WWE how many answers did? He get right one. Well, it's what he got one answer. He got bonus. There's only five. You gotta take I got a knockout the chance. The world at work. We got to be twice as good. I'm glad they would just got through the entire Kyrie Irving topic. Without either one you guys blaming it on Gordon Hayward. The next time. We have to be twice as good. Just remember that. Good. We stood and get the Bill. So we're a few months past the Super Bowl where the Rams offense looked all sorts of wrong. 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Hour 2: A Broadway Show

"The this is the max. Kellerman show kellerman show on. Espn radio the max kellerman show on espn radio and espn plus. Also check me out on the espn app and sirius. Xm channel eighty. See if michael thompson expects ad to play tonight in father knows best after all raised three professional athletes all at the highest level. Klay thompson daddy michael thompson. Eight say espn eight seven nine. Three seven seven safe. The max kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance guests. Join me on the good. Your hotline was not been the series for the home team. Lay the clippers in maps. The road team wins every game. Luke gives them forty two fourteen and eight and sets the all time record being involved in over eighty six eighty three point. Eight percent of of the mavericks points. That's the highest such percentage in the history of the nba playoffs regular season or playoffs. And he did it with nerve damage in his neck against the team with two wings. Who are known as all world defensive players where where his his second banana kristaps porzingis only scored eight points on the road in a win and then served in a playoff series that they're supposed to lose four consecutive games because they're hurting. The role players aren't contributing enough in the clippers have finally figured it out as the underdog and apply and then he had this to say at the post game. Presser gonna play better. you know. I'm used a lot of shots. Some layups that i make But it wasn't just me stole teamed. She was unbelievable. Defeat ball Energy came with a big shot. Big shot in the whole team was just. They're bringing vantage right after the game. He says he wasn't any good at the end. It could have been much veteran credits. Dorian finney smith who finished with six points for his overall play as the key. Recently one is there a more valuable commodity in the nba. Then luca well he hasn't proven he's better than the brian. Yeah that's true although he's been playing better recently. He's twenty two luka doncic. He's twenty two years old and he's doing this is there is like it's almost like when magic entered the league. He entered the league. He was listed as a shooting guard. Because now because the nick the lakers had norm. Nixon had a very good point guard. All-star point guard. he's listed as a shooting guard. He initiated he ran the offense as much as anyone and magic in the it was nineteen years old won a championship in college. Against larry bird when he gets in the league magic at the age of twenty because he turned twenty during the season. Isn't a game six against the sixers. Darryl dawkins a center kareem abdul-jabbar. The mvp of the league that year gets hurt. Can't play magic. Jumps at center gives them forty. Two fifteen and seven and the lakers win. Think about that for a second as a twenty year old but the game was incomplete. Still he was crazy clutch all time. Great passer already. Such great super great player. I mean you do that at the age of twenty. Come on your point guard. You jump at center. You dropped forty to fifty seven and a three two win the finals come on nothing like that ever been done before. Or since but magic's game was not as complete as larry bird's back then he was not as good a defender. He was not nearly as good a shooter or score and bird was almost a passer. Magic was almost court vision so luka not that he's done what magic did yet nor what bird. The bird went up three time. Mvp i was three consecutive. Mvp's there was a time when bird reached a level of dominance in the nba. In my lifetime behind only jordan lebron as like the alpha male of the nba. The unquestioned best player people forget that now because magic kept getting better and better and than bird hurt his back in the magic took over before jordan but there was a time when bird was demand. Luca is almost like a combination of magic and bird. He doesn't shoot it well enough yet but he takes a lot of threes that he can get his own shot. The way harden can any six seven six eight and he controls the pace of the game. What dream onset on the broadcasts. Exactly right grandma's very good on tv by the way what he said on the broadcast is exactly right. He refuses to be sped up. Luca plays the game at his pace. And that's the pace. The game is going to be played at. He's got that magic johnson. What he's only how old and he's already doing this in the playoffs. And he's got that larry bird like oh he can control entire league control the game through his passing and his shooting. Is there a more valuable. Commodity or harden is better. Okay hardens ten years older lebron's better. Maybe but i mean yeah okay but lebron's near the end. Zion has more athletic ability. And he's he's right on schedule. Yeah okay but he may be still several years away from being an mvp caliber player lucas. That right now. Trae young by the way max kellerman shows presented by progressive insurance trae. Young trae young's an easy guide alike. Even if you're a knick fan you realize he's playing the role of antagonist. They're cursing amount at the garden. Does he respond in kind. No he gives the sh. He finishes his performance on broadway. Takes a bow by the way trae young on a top ten player just to knicks fans. He looks like a top ten player. He dismantled the knicks. You know trae young. Has we figured a steph curry. Let me tell you why bill. James wrote an article the godfather of sabermetrics in baseball analytics bill. James wrote an article about babe. Ruth the greatest baseball player ever right and everyone assumes that the end of the dead ball era in baseball came in nineteen twenty when babe ruth hit hit nineteen home runs in one thousand nine hundred and because there was something called the black socks scandals white sox through the world series that that baseball is looking to juice up offense. They need the balls tighter and everyone started hitting more home runs. But will bill. James said is actually. He doesn't buy into that entirely because not many people hit more home runs. Just a handful. What he thinks happened is they. Were playing in a dead ball era where everyone was told. You hit it over the fence. you'll strike out too much. You won't be successful enough. It's not worth it. Hit em where they ain't babe. Ruth had a big strong mahindra over the fence. Any did babe ruth more than was was an act of his own imagination. And once he blazed the trail others like lou gehrig and jimmie foxx the time imitate it and they weren't as good as him but they approximated him. There were some version of him because he showed them the way. Well that steph. Curry steph. Curry showed everyone away steps careers. Have the greatest handles ever but it handles a really good. And he's willing to take risks with them you know. Sometimes you watch stephanie. Like he got away like he just hoping the ball was going to be there and even more or less. It was unlike cairo. Who's like super precise with it. Right or a guy like a it back in the day but steph shows if you if you can really shoot and he's the best shooter ever so you can shoot from far away too and you can practice shooting from far away and if you have great handles can be daring with them and soon enough. There's damian lillard doing version of steph. Curry doesn't shoot it as well. But he's doing a version of steph steph. Showed him the way trae young. He's doing a version of steph. Trae young is not the most gifted ball handler. He's gifted he's not the most gifted shooter he's gifted but he plays with a fearlessness and a confidence in his ability to get where he wants to go to shoot from anywhere. That steph curry does st- he and so he's a poor man's steph curry who maybe a little better under prussian steph will see but he dismantled the next he was the knicks. Don't have anyone like him up. That song could only mean one thing on the goodyear hotline michael thompson. Father knows best lakers play by play. Man he has sired three athletes who who achieved at the highest level of professional sports nba and major league baseball. The great michael thompson. Ladies and gentlemen. Michael hey back how you doing how to care family door. How'd you don't also. I wanna get bugs like people call and ask you how you do it. Yes thank you. Oh yes everything's you. And i can have a social call on the air. That's okay you you you have a pass. That's right. i agree. I agree with you. Get to the point here when people when people call you. Michael is gonna play tonight. I believe so. No one's told me anything we are. They haven't released anything. But i believe he will guys when you get this kind of injury. He's getting treatment around the clock of so he's he's a competitor. He sees this team needs him. And i believe he's gonna play. I'm just guessing everybody else. But i believe you will now say he must play. It's win or go home. It's game six. But here's how i balanced michael. I don't like if he's getting medical advice. Like yeah you could play on it. Maybe but in deal with the pain. But there's a sizable chance that you can have a catastrophic injury such that you won't be right till the middle of next year. That do lakers fan still want that. What would you advise him. If there was a risk of a bigger injury what would you. What would you do if you were a d. Would you play in game. Six jeopardize the following season by the way as your son did when he clay kept play of clare to be taken out of that game as k d did. Hey d. there's a there's a chance of an achilles injury here but meantime those guys miss seasons or would you if you were a dj. I it's better for my team. Even if i sit this one out. Well you know he's been working out testing it. He's not just sitting on the couch and guessing about it so he's not working out of seeing how he feels and thousand the situation. And if i felt like i could go. I would go. I would risk it. And i'm sure they're asking him how he's feeling he's letting them know how you build. And if he feels he can play. Then you gotta let them play. Michael can lebron still hip playoff mode. Oh yeah and he will tonight. He's elimination game at home. If the lakers lose the series the the kind of guys if we don't we're not gonna lose this gonna make inex- win this and they're building so that's the attitude he's gonna come out with tonight and i think the whole have come up with that attitude. We lose the series. It ain't gonna be here in l. a. meantime. I don't know if anyone knows his whereabouts. But i'm getting concerned because there has not been a dentist schreuder citing in these playoffs when you needed him most than i feel that he's missing and we may have to put out a search party pretty soon michael. Do you think we can find dennis schroder in these playoffs. You know you had a good game two or three. He did all right obviously had a horrible game. Four or game five. I should say but Yeah there's the beginning from the night. To rebound and come back and be more productive guys like have understand that you know you don't have to give them any kind of motivational speeches or have to call them out or anything that when your competitor player of this caliber you know you didn't play up to your ability so he'll be waiting tonight. He'll be aggressive tonight and really attack. I quit chris. Paul chris defense feel like chris. Paul solomon and alley with a bag of candy and got him to get into a car. Something where is he. Where is where is schreuder. Michael they'll tell me about games. Two and three your second best player goes down you are you can steal a game on the road at least step up. Nine shots michael. You're third best player. Who needed to step up. Had zero points not a single point houses. Possibly i mean we're but sometimes it happens. I play for the lakers and eighty eight season and we got beat by thirty and utah. And that's when you had korean worthy magic. Three hall of fame was on the team. So you can have a bad game max. Not everybody's as perfect as you are an extra that that's true that's true this is by the way it gets back to teddy roosevelt's man in the arena. He gave a speech overseas where he talked about. You know as long as you try you. Sometimes you're gonna fail but you still get more glory than the critic who just points out where you stumbled and yet damn schreuder. I don't know if men in the arena applies to zero points. I don't think teddy route. i think. Teddy roosevelt if you heard hail teddy zero points needed to step up. It'll be like yeah about the man in the arena. That wasn't that was shooter. Better do something michael thompson. father knows. Yes lakers play by play. Yes yes michael. Yeah you're right about data. Dialect schroeder colwell. Both those guys were they had zero points. And you're right. They're gonna make their late apprised of the show tonight. Max don't you worry. I hope so. I'm a little worried that the lack of respect that the sons have for lakers shooters also making it. Hard for lebron. Because it's kinda crowded down in the painted area. Michael and that takes away the most effective part of lebron's game scoring the ball. At least i think these guys have to step up and start hitting shots from the outside. No no question about it max. I think we're shooting like twenty something percent from three hundred series and these guys are better shooters than that. So maybe tonight they'll bounce out of this shooting slow from three point land and shoot all they gotta do like thirty five percent from three and they can take control of this series. Now michael i know we. You and i talked some round ball after all you were the number. One overall draft pick your average twenty and twelve. You won two championships. But i know you're a big fight. Fan logan paul is boxing. Floyd mayweather floyd got. I think it was twelve ounce gloves. There's not going to be a decision rendered one way or another but you can go for a knockout. What are you expecting for. First of all do you approve. Or disapprove of this matchup. And secondly what. Are you expecting these kind of exhibition matches. I like a lot of interest of the game and it's just like i said before we were talking. We can't get the best to fight against the humanity though the exhibition route and it was walking has to do. He's basically got to turn this into a phone booth. he's turning this into a broad. He can't stay on the outside and think he's gonna out the box even a forty four year old floyd mayweather. So he's got a brawl. Floyd so it's got a mall. Try to be a white version of marco's. My donna. that kind of fighter. Just be a brawler. At a baller i agree. Floyd has a way of controlling fighters. Michael easier said than done but he possessed his positioning and his defense is second to none even at the age of one hundred or whatever floyd is right now. I found it to believe that a kid with his little experiences. Logan paul who's a charming dude. Like you can see why. Logan paul's popular is going to be able to hang with them. The great michael thompson. Ladies and gentlemen we can only hope michael. That lebron comes through in the lakers are still playing after tomorrow. Night after tonight rather and you can hear michael thompson on lakers games. He is the play by play guy and that was father knows best would be best to disconnect the call at this point. Thank you very much. Okay now very good. Thank you michael you. You always complain when we connect early. Wanted to leave you. Feeling that he that he was already gone. And you guys just kept them kept him on the line. Taken a lessons from you about how to say to people. I mean how do i say goodbye to people. Probably the worst person. The show me how i say goodbye for all. I knew you were going to bring him back three minutes later. Goodbye brendan jonathan and georgia. You're on the max kellerman joe. Spn radio max. It seems to me that there always to narratives in the same season with lebron james lead team and i watch your thoughts. The i need to this team. He's on their favorite to win the separation which i completely agree with but then if something happens like an affidavit was getting hurt or what have you. It's now lebron has to carry a team of. Nobody's in order to win the championship. Why is that. do you agree with that. I do but i think. That's because of lebron lebron very frustrated in cleveland. They weren't giving them anything to work with much like jordan chicago. Once upon a time he never got to play with an all star and so he had his own gm and put together his own team. But when you do that. When the team doesn't grow organically you bring superstars together. You probably gonna have a thinner roster because you know if you drafted a superstar and then a superstar signs with your team and you've drafted the players and you can then use bird rights and stuff to go through the salary cap. You can have some depth but when you put three max contract players together they even have to take haircuts to do it. And then there's very little money to sign really good player so why happening is players who've already had a good career and maybe you can still be useful but are no longer really good sign for the vets minimum and stuff like that right. Look at the nets. They have blake griffin. That's a useful player. Not a great player anymore but a useful players still. But but you're not gonna have a super deep roster usually and so because lebron has had to play his own gm and get him and another star or two together. Those teams will have like two or three superstars lebron in one or two other guys and then usually not other starting caliber players right. Usually guys who are good rotation pieces but not starting caliber and then it is fair for the for the fans to say okay. This is what you put together. Lebron who basically acts as gm. Well i mean this is the danger in that is that someone gets hurt. You know there going to be more of a burden on you. Ad won some games late in the season without lebron lebron's going to have to win a playoff game. Now maybe without a big rob robin inglewood. You're on the max. Kellerman show and of course big rob i need to know. Are you up to any good. Always up to no good to know good. I just wanted to see. Yeah i thought maybe englewood was up to some good now but it's still up to no good. Yeah no and and and we're doing real good now man. These lakers lose the night listener mac. The other thing. I'm tired i'm tired of people making excuses but crybaby lebron james right. It's not dinner shooters job to make. Sure the lakers are ready to play. The only person job it is is lebron. James are you. A clipper san big rob. Are you clippers. you know i'm not. I'm a lakers fan. But i'm lebron james haters. I can see that. How could you be lebron later. Replaced for the lakers. Because because this is the reason why people are comparing him to michael. Jordan is one of the greatest players ever and he is not the greatest player ever no. He's not that. Yes down here and mixed i wanna ask you a question. Okay real quick. It didn't answer off air. Okay oh michael. Northern what's in the league considered the best player in the whole world. No other player would dare put their hand up and fight against that lebron james who supposed to be the best player in the league. There's two to three other players who say broad one hundred years old. When lebron was in his prime there was no one messing with him he was worth twice as much as the next best guy. Look i look michael. Jordan's greatest player of all time. Michael jordan is best was better than lebron. James best but lebron is in that category of you know. Hey at the greatest player of all time and his has been much longer than michael's at at the highest possible level. So i prefer peak over career so i'll take jordan but here's the problem. Big rob your lakers fan. Lebron james is not only laker. he just won the lakers championship. When you hate lebron you're just hurting yourself. Don't because what's going to happen is when he's not there anymore. You're going to be like damn. Why do that everyone has experienced this for whatever reason you hate on a guy. Maybe he's even on the team you root for a fight or whatever and then the guy's got you like damn. Why did i do that. I wasn't hurting anybody but myself. I should have enjoyed that. Just enjoy the fact. That lebron james is a laker. What a knucklehead big rob damn you just hurting yourself fig rob feel. We're up to some good but no it's inglewood up to no good. Yeah heating on the james michael thompson. Join me on the goodyear hotline helping you discovered the road ahead. Goodyear more driven coming off a big change coming for lamar jackson plus your calls on the nba playoffs. It's time for some straight talk. Sure saving money feels good. But cutting your wireless bill and half. That feels really good. Like walk off home. Run in the ninth inning. Good okay maybe. Not that good with straight talk and get twenty five gigs of high speed data for forty five bucks a month up to fifty percent less than the other guys. No contract all on america's best networks. Why pay a whole lot. When you can pay half straight talk wireless contract no compromise. Lamar like you rarely seen them. 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Hensley of espn dot com. Baltimore's offense will include. Plays with jackson starting under center. Mark jackson's almost never under center offensive coordinator gregg roman told reporters on wednesday. Indeed the changes coming to the teams approached quote. That's definitely gonna be part of what we do this year. The percentage of which i cannot state at this point roman said. I don't know the extent of it but we are working on it and evaluating it every day that's good it's natural progression of a player to evolve when these in the league and like trying to think of. Can you picture lamar jackson roger. Can you ever pick them under center at all. No we talked about it during the break. Even when goal line israeli under center. I think it was four percents zuhdi higher snaps in three years. Yes some stupid. Small percentage of his snaps outlook of every team that julio jones could wind up on. I'd love to see him on the ravens. 'cause julio jones's a i'll find out about you tie player i'll find out about your quarterback ravens have real good offensive line. They have a running game. Obviously they have a quarterback who can run and they are there they have okay receivers. They don't really have a dynamic receiving option. And julio jones the kinda receiver that can fit into any style offense it would give lamar real dynamic number-one option even even if julio's a little past it. I love to see it. Eighty eight say. Espn eight eight seven to nine. Three seven seven. Six scotty in spokane. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio all right. Thank you man. over under how many flops lebron gonna happen queen james what the hell anyway Also i wanna see brooklyn and utah. And that's like a battle of the best shooting team which is utah and then a collective cast of characters that are just like stellar. Katie's the best player on the planet. You know i i look. Katie is not the best player on the planet and the reason is he hasn't been playing defense like let me just say something. Katie was on his way to maybe becoming the best player on the planet. He was closing the gap between between lebron him and when he got hurt. That was the most complete. I've ever seen him play in the sense that he was an excellent defender and can defend multiple positions at a high level and He's always a great score. He's always a crazy efficient among the greatest scores ever but he became he was always a willing passer but his his size and the fact that he was playing with competent teammates made him in a highly effective passer. The way like centers are effective passers when they're willing to pass the ball and they have some talent to do it and i thought that was the like that. Katie was something that he's not here anymore this year so far. He's willing to defend the toughest assignment but he doesn't do it well this year he has not done it well this year. He's been willing but but not effective defensively. Offense has been great. St the passing the obviously the scoring from anywhere. But i think given the defense. I don't think you can call him the best player in fact the nets if they didn't have harden if kyrie in k. d. and joe harris those guys. I wouldn't pick the nets to get out of the stephen. James corden's the most important player on that team. Aaron in california. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio Imacs safe an appointment. I offer blonde negative liberty. And you know i did it all the time but that's not. I wasn't down three one to one of the best teams ever in a championship. You know i've last time. I checked his got eliminated. I believe three times in the first round not exactly going home not exactly. Let me explain something lou. The heat for lebron for some lakers fan. I don't get it either. But the whole thing about jordan got a note. Not exactly jordan had never played with an all star Teammate never played with an all star like who had made the all star team at any point in their careers like since up they played with jordan or after they played. What your no all start. Of course you're not going to win in the playoffs. Soon as jordan stu soon as jordan. Got an all star. teammate scottie. Pippen he took the defending champion. The first time i ever played with an all-star and pippen was you could look at his numbers. He wasn't in his prime yet. He was just i. All star team made not interested raj first all star team first time. Pippen me that all star team took the pistons. Seven games pippen got a migraine so we only scored two points and forty minutes in other words once again. He wasn't an all star. That is the only time. Lebron got eliminated then. He won the championship and under seven games. The next three years went away for two years. Came back did it again. Let's see curtin oklahoma. You're on the maximum. What is it raj. i'm trying to. I'm trying to do a radio. Show here what does it mean. Be your life man. but it's still happened. It didn't happen. It's already saying it happened but was eliminated in the first round i do. It's misleading and by the way when you guys want to do that get your own radio show and be my guest. Make that point all you want. Make the point all you want when you get the rod. Show the rajin brendan show. You can make that point now brandon just to get me back has taken all my stuff off scream. We're gonna get to more of your calls on last. Take brendon and raj a very important point. That you need to hear about michael jordan for some reason the max kellerman show on. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance progressive. Homequote explorer gives you multiple quote options. So you can pick what's right for you see for yourself. A progressive dot com. Do own or rent your home. 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Espn radio and espn plus check me out on the espn app. And siriusxm channel eighty just composing a plea response to chuck d tweeted about his nick. Fandom we've got to tell you something easy for chuck to say and chuck. The guys like him live through to knicks championships bridge. I've been on this earth almost half century. I'll be forty eight. And a couple of months. And i only hear the stories about the knicks winning a championship. And even now even clyde and willison all these guys dollar bill bradley. And even now dave bush even now. I'm hearing from the knicks. Well we're laying foundation to one day be able to compete for a championship. Really you know. The last professional new york team to win a championship in basketball was the new york nets and they did it with a native new yorker dr j. He won the title in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy six for the new york nets and the aba. New york nets then joined the nba and they moved to jersey like the giants and the jets. But they didn't have the sense to keep the new york name. They turned into new jersey nets giants and jets. We're playing jersey. But we're the new york giants. Everyone knew all behind them. Still okay fine. So the knicks ran unopposed for years. The nets are back in new york. The team of dr j. The last team to win a championship or in brooklyn and then tomorrow laying a foundation to one day years now maybe could be after fifty years of in the desert. No they're saying we're trying to win one right now right now. Nixon had the equity. The lakers have lakers built in la. Like hey we can have dry spell. Y'all better chill. You give you a lot of championships. Nixon just like remember. We were the only game in town so you have to like us no no we don't no one does know. The nets are in town. Did you miss any of the max kellerman show today. It was a kick above average show. I'd say you can always find both hours. Show posted daily podcast available wherever you listen to podcasts. Life's not gonna change. If you missed a podcast but you might enjoy. You heard. I ache good to hear your voice. Talk birthday out your house down here matches last week. I'm going to get to your last. Take member know what's up max. Hey matches get to terrence in wisconsin. Go thanks for the time. Look really quick. I wanna talk about the lakers. Last game. I just watched. If jordan was that game and pippen was out. It would be a lot closer. Look like the broncos have anymore. I don't know. I don't know no player. Who's ever played. The number of minutes in the nba has ever been nearly as good as lebron is right now. But he's a million years old. Stephen south dakota. You're on the max kellerman show. Don't blame la for the. Hey from ron. Lame lebron fans when he came to la all talking about how the brownies only the greatest of all time never be. Oh all the fans even the media was at you can say you could argue. Lebron is the greatest. You could argue. Lebron is the greatest player to ever play for the lakers. Because you could argue outside of jordan's greatest player ever hear. Kareem may also played for the lakers. But i don't i mean i. I don't think most people have lebron on the laker. Mount rushmore let alone as the all time. Greatest laker fans kobe. Kareem and jerry west probably as a player and an executive not to mention guys like shack. Lebron's not on the mount rushmore of lakers. Laker great you wanna championship in his second year with the team. Why jian kentucky. You're on the max would acquit when max I think charles barkley got it wrong. I kind of him Three dave is I think that's a column humpty dumpty any fell out the wall and you can't put them back together again. Curtis in oklahoma. You're on the max calorie show. Do you have the nets in game. Five or six and then out of all the x. Factors la k. d. curry. You know the main stars who will be the x factor series. James harden is going to control the series. And i think i don't know if the nets had enough time to get the defense together to take them out and five or six games. It could go six or seven. But i believe the nets beat the bucks. I think they have too much firepower. And the bucks greatest. Chance is if the nets. Don't get the defense together in time. But i saw them in. The regular season took two or three weeks and their defense. Good enough and the postseason. You have more rest between games. It's been five games plus the rest between series. It's good with practice. And everything and guys healthy altogether for the first time. It's going to be like almost two weeks ish. Someone that might be just enough time for them to take out the bucks and five or six games crews in portland. You're on the max keller show. Espn radio big band first. Time caller I just want to ask you about damian. lillard Huge portland fan. And i don't think he's going anywhere regardless of what happens but your thoughts on if we don't make it he's going anywhere dame's not going anywhere dame is going to stick it out and he may cost him. A championship looked being the pacific. Northwest being portland you need. Gm who's not just good shape. Good you need a great gm because you need to draft guys who develop into stars and you need to have enough draft kind of to make moves where you can trade for stars who may not resign with your team. So you have overpay for them. Damian lillard and cj mccollum or an excellent start. The hope was that nurkic could develop into more that he's book then he's become and so i think portland's going to have to make a move that brings in a third player who's also excellent in order to really compete for a title. But i don't think dame going anywhere mitch and new jersey. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio and First of all. I think lebron second-best you will but i don. I dislike proceeding. Choose the clippers clippers. They lose. they're gonna be the biggest laughing stock of home field advantage and he's super stars. Pope scored more than forty well. Well i mean. I can't say that the the clippers wants to biggest laughingstock ever but there is something hilarious about the clippers to lakers fans because even when the windows cracked open for you. Look the league. Under the chris paul treat not only did they did they. Maybe a legally stop him from going to the lakers back. When but then. They sent to the clippers clippers. Trae go through. And they had lob city and kobe was at the end and the lakers were capped out and they couldn't get anyone to take their money and they were the worst team in the league and the clippers were high flying and they couldn't get out of the second round. The window was open then. They signed paul. George and the whole thing and the lakers wracked with injuries. 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