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R.L. Stine's The Best Friend (w/ Daniel Montgomery and Matthew Scott Montgomery)

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R.L. Stine's The Best Friend (w/ Daniel Montgomery and Matthew Scott Montgomery)

"Sometimes friendship can be murder this week on the PODCASTS are l Stein's best welcome to team creeps. The PODCAST that discusses trashy teen horror. I'm one of your host Lindsay. Kate die and I'm another one of your hosts Kelly nugent and we have a couple of very special guests. Today they're actors they're writers. They are host of the goosebumps podcast. Welcome to dead cast. It is Matthew Scott Montgomery and Daniel. Montgomery we're here so so happy to be here. I have a feeling we're going to be best friends to to the end that end. That is very upsetting. What enhance personal? Truly the the interns. I didn't see it coming. I does it your first time reading. I have not read this one. Okay think I did but as a teenager and didn't remember it well all because wow wow wild ride yes was like a an hour and a half long panic attack time. There's a lot going on. I could not handle the gas lighting. The gas lighting was volume of credible gaslight gas leading the reader. Honestly because I am I never got honey story. We never got no. That was infuriating. Also also like you have crimes to answer for truly. We don't know if honey even ever lived next door she we don't know we'd she didn't even say when she went in the house in the end if there was in fact venture nowhere table so we know there were and table take. That's it when this book came out fans were so upset about it and like fired up about the ending of this book that he wrote a sequel equal to it. The best friend too and when the best to came out there was a sticker on the front of it said that the audience demanded it. Here it is or something like that the best friend. Yeah well I demand I do too. That's not a lie. Here's the thing and that is the best friend too good. It's no that's what happens to so this is that they own the media and service isn't necessarily a good thing. I think I saw US online. Where fans could recommend what they thought should happen no similar to the backlash of fatal attraction when that movie came out if you are you familiar with the the the drama okay? I mean really quickly but like You know originally if you remember that movie. It's Glenn Close who stalks Michael Douglas's family that she's a villain is for even though he's cheating on his wife and is is is being the worst guy ever but she gets blamed for all of it and movie. Well yes in when we test audiences. I think he's the late eighty S. I think it was. Maybe we should look it up. You should look it up. I think audiences for test screenings didn't think that Glenn Close got punished enough. It's right so they had to reshoot the ending ending where she comes back alive if you remember in the bathtub in the bathtub and he shoots her staff's or whatever yes audiences at the time think thought the woman needed to be punished. More that they trash that's sadly offing and not surprised at all so anyway. It's just like the best friend honey punished and they wanted it in the best friend. So honey is like oh is back well eighty seven hundred. Eighty seven okay. Okay yeah what happens I mean. Are we talking about ready. We haven't talked with. Let's let's we did reach like. Do you want to know the answer to this and then we can. Why don't we talk about the Okay okay do you think it'll be more it'll be more powerful. Yeah and and we'll go. God Okay I would like to say I am so excited to have you guys on the podcast because never before have we been in with our own people really know are also. It's a thing to write. Where like I love all of our guests I love I love above? Everyone brings a different flavor but like a lot of times. You have to be like okay something like this is the kind of book data like explain like what these books are like but like you know our boy rl. Oh yeah we know better than we do. I think because you only are l.. That's right that's correct anything about any like history. I don't know anything about the history of any single one of these well when you read solely are Stein and what our podcast does is we were. We're are- reading and re watching the television goosebumps from the very beginning going all the way through and you you start to pick up on stuff. He uses over and over again Like for example one phrase that we found that he uses all the time and wake we have kind of like sound effects when it comes up in the box is he writes. That people fall Har- elbows and knees. That's like a race. He says all the time. She's the most painful thing. You could possibly think ponies parts of your body ever fallen on your the only saved my face in my hands. The most the part of the allison happens like once every four or five books. He'll he'll have it in there. May seven is more it is in there so much and shocking loves and we have this in this book. redheads wrestling has. I wanted to sense with Auburn Lady. Eighties romantic every shade. Same with hike with Auburn hair. Pike is specifically Auburn whereas rl L.. LOVES EVERY SHADE OF THE REDHEAD Capri curls up as well young cute. I wanted to mention. Is it Trish. WHO's Ashtray? Shaped like a broom ball. That's also is like you know hot like you know she's like a model. Yeah well let us know that he becca. Lets US know. I was getting serious. Like Sweet Valley High Lila Vibes from of like. Oh this is like rich bitch. Hot Girl Girl Lila. But I wanted to mention the cameo is of another famous redhead yes from Silent Knight Riva Dr Religious Name only all. Wow the only party. I love shopping. Silent Knight One which iconic of of course you will never ever get a more icon. No no I'm sorry. I used to what I wouldn't my parents. I used to live in North Carolina when I lived here so we would fly back for Christmas every year North Carolina. And what I would do on the flight back would read Silent Silent Knight and silent night to just because I want. I don't no no. I just loved it so much. I just want to stay in the department store. Oh yes the diabetes. Yeah shared world of the covers of those books as well especially I really good. The first one's a very good cover. Yeah way the double O it. Oh No I have to get this Amazon. I'm afraid all three silent knight can get it and I don't Remember Silent Knight three either. She's home from College for the holidays. She's in college. Oh it's going to be another scary. Christmas here was so bad. Holidays are not a good time for Eva. Let's just it was wondering if the trip that Corey what is her name Harry. Ari got carry the. That's that's how riva gets brought up because she's going on a skiing trip right with Riva is late. Is that one of the books. And then is Kerry going to be in the book. But I'm not not sure that that happens in a way to listen to the episode. Love this trip one truth or dare truth or dare yes not. It gave us a choice. When you guys hit us up I was like I have two pitchers for us? I have the best friend winter but not Christmas is Christmas. It was like I am so glad that they gave us holiday choice. It because I was looking for this is perfect. This elstein collectors industry Christmas for all side exclamation point Sweet silence collectors. I don't think I've ever loved where did where did you get this. RIFT BOOKS DOT COM Thrift Mills. Fleet Week you. This was different. I couldn't find silent knight to on no possible to. It is very hard to why I had to get this one because I already have silent Knight One and silent weeknights three but it turned out. I didn't have to yeah. I only have the first one. If you're ever looking first specific covers this books you can choose which cover you stop it right now. The market from Chri. Love this so much they have. They have an APP just a website. It's really great. It's it's fantastic. I'm like right now. I'm mentally restructuring the next week and a half my life and I'm like how can I get this book to me so soon before Christmas time. I know what I WANNA do. What do you want to do gift gift? You Guys My Silent Knight and Silent Night Three. No yes please I have so many of these fucking books. Yeah take these okay. Yeah I'M GONNA Paul goes out to you. It is a scary Christmas after all all you have to find his two. Oh two the final yeah. We'll find it honestly. The ones that I love reading the most for some reason are the okay. There's like five different types of Fisher bucks right. There's like beautiful. Oh happy holidays. You're dead post this on my grid for Instagram. What did we say? Is the LAMEST tagline. Oh Oh it was like knock knock your dead or trick or treat your dead or knock knock your dad for dead end where it's like accidents happen salute sexiest tagline. We have this episode is over. I am hauling out my bag of US troops book. I should have brought my new guys. Please go to town choosing whichever one wow. This is an embarrassment of riches. Hits three says Tis the season to die. Oh that's not too bad rich. Snobby Riva Dhabi wants a little fame for Chris. Since her daddy owns Tao department store she can have whatever she wants. I'm going to. I'm going to reread this. Yeah I promise you I will too I can you can switch offering that. I forgot their says. Your there's more people yes right. And the and the deaths are more a little more gruesome entire life. It's actually actually remember right away. We Start I started doing the podcast. I couldn't remember what book that was and I was like. There was a book where someone's lip gets cut open and I think a listener listener was like it silently and I was like Oh my credit you know. They're they're making films now are they're done with them and I read a little bit of some of them and I appreciate hit some choices that they're making but my nastiest most delicious pleasure would be the same if they remade like the best friend outfit for outfit were worth taking gene like black catsuit the same hair literally. Just take the exact. Yes that is my world if I had all the the money you hear that. Hbo Max is going to be pretty seeing a point horror show. Yes but it's our Stein's desperate to write on that desperate show go run somebody to make a four. I could play like a mall them. They kill to show you will. I hope I will kill but I do love Michelle. Ah tagline body. You hear what I would love to is like if they did the dialogue. Exactly because the dialogue is so like seventies movie. I like well. I don't know what you're thinking Riva like. It's just the way they talk as not hundred percent teenagers talk. I was a kid as we're reading the goosebumps books you know all Stein. He's seventy dollars is everything. Sounds like it's from the fifties and sixties. He's at his most alive when he's writing when they do. The flashback books. Each party house. Thank you where it takes these traveling. That's right moral. He loves that stuff it is. He loves baseball. He loves LEG LOVES BULLYING AMERICANA FROM SAN LA from joking. Yeah Yeah right last time. Oscar is over at my place. Oscar Montoya Shot Seventy. Okay okay. That's I'm Oscars over to my place. We were talking about you guys and I showed him my my Arl Stein Book collection and I showed him the book phone calls. Do you guys know this. The labs are on the line. It's literally Charleston's started off as a joke writer writing for Mac is that well. He has a book that came out. I think before blind date came now before any of the fierce streets have started from like eighty five ish or somebody earlier than really clocked me. If I'm wrong and I was listening please and the book is literally literally just phone calls between friends on a crazy Friday night and it's like the straightest thing you've ever read in your life at all it's like one hundred twenty pages of just dumb gags about like being on the phone. He's garbage I love it. It's so stupid I love that I also since you were saying the straightest just thing ever I wanted to talk about the The gay panic in this book. Tell me more. So did you feel honey is in love with with yeah. I felt perhaps incorrectly. Maybe this was not his intent. I highly doubt it was but it could read it a little bit to me as like look this girl. She can be like obsessed with you and like if a garage a crush on you. She's GonNa Kill Your boyfriend and I think you did it. I don't think he he meant to do that at all. No I read that a little bit. You can't help. But but imagine a world in which that was part of the plot yeah rooming but he's very he his zero queer energy in the stuff that he right absolutely not. Unfortunately I can't I can't imagine him intentionally putting Nuno they're all like it's so maybe not so much panic panic but but like I'm gay murder murder know how to phrase it but oh yeah what you mean lesbian stocker stereotype or something. Yes you single white females reference but but never seen single all. I have not ever used as a ref. I haven't used Swim Fan Swim Fan. which is a David yes? Single Swim Fan. The roommate these kind of things this is specifically. The best friend is my favorite kind of narrative that exists. There's something wrong with me. I don't know why that's the case but I love it's usually girls but one person becoming obsessed with another person taking over their life and and kind of getting away with the talented Mr Ripley ing. Yeah version is you're right. You're right I I don't know what it is about it but I like the like it just jack the I want to I want to be as close to. She was possible so like if that means wearing your skin I will do it. But there's also something about the friends and the parents not knowing that that that is that is so that makes yeah so eighty. Something switched when I was younger at some point. We're now I think its hilarious and I love it. I like I understand shoes. It's like juicy in the way that show you see where this juicy this the whatever it is still very. I don't WanNa say triggering because it's not but like I was fully having panic attack while you're thrown backward. We're looking believing her high school for you and your slinky black catsuit going to parties wrangler retire ever like work. This cat sue. This will be perfect. Absolutely love about our sign. Is the female fashion. He describes it's always so many layers while he'd be like she wore a dayglo orange tights under a brown suede skirt with with into ribbon in her hair with with a ribbon her braids loosely tied like seven necklaces a multicolored glass beads. And I'm like if this person actually dressed like this like I know seriously playing squad babysitters club and went okay and then like I got a lot of yes stop. Yeah got some of them right there. I like every sweater is a very chunky sweater. There was one outfit that I remember and I. Don T remember charges. I don't remember specifically love. You're forced to stand the Sochi Sochi Blue Blouse. None are there was like an and it wasn't in this book but that Allston that stood out to me which was like. Oh I can't wait to hear it was member. It was a orange. It was a vast right orange. They loved fests who I'm sorry. It was like a white vest under right orange. T sure. Sure start with like shonky jeans. I am like black site goes I. I was walking you out because I can't remember any details but it was burned into my brain. The idea of fast under eight to serve Sir t shirt being hidden from view and I was like why the detail is that a secret for us is we need to know under t-shirt makes me sir ill. I've got to do it. Yeah we don't see it investments. No one knew Mike dirty little secret. All I have are big denim vests that will have to wear under a suit by a fad undershirt. They should have a secret party in a ribbon in my hair. Eh dayglo tight. I will send out invites and it says Lindy cage is having a vest party. Don't explain it ever shove we have a vest party under the close but we never show each other. Our investment is hang out knowing where I don't even talk about it covered and flop sweat where are very stood out in Nisa built Laos. I really can't get over. The Enamel. Parrot Enamel parents it was it was such a plot element into the story and yes so upset. I know we're going to talk. I like fairness Jack on furnace the true villain in that regard of my being uncomfortable is Becca because she never fucking know what is going on should he go see half trysofi yeah. She's she's always like she's like trying to be me and it's like give examples especially in the first chapter so I was telling everyone here that I out of sheer boredom and lunacy. I recorded an audiobook version of this book for literally myself with sound sound effects and music and different. It's pretty fanatic dating accent for no reason the whole thing. A few tracks like metal title and shattering glass make sound effects. Whatever while I was listening to it last night and in this first chapter how emotional the first job emotional roller coaster? That we go through with Becca is that she's making out with her current boyfriend Eric who she can't stand and she's going to break up with him. She can't stop thinking about her ex boyfriend. Bill then she breaks up with Eric and Eric Is. It's been real and he's cool with it and then she's angry because he's not more upset. That's just fine. I'm going to go. Rebels place crashes in crashes or I six minutes of the audiobook and then the second chapter just start with like good good thing. You're you didn't die in that car accident I know she's like knitting a sweater. And we never referenced the Act and that is a classics also passing. Why they I can tell you? I know we're jumping ahead but like my favorite fake out in this whole book. Which really really tickles me is is honey saying trying to remember? Remember trying to remind Beca of that. Choke game they used to talk with the a fake out like no one goes to strangle me and then say mark. Oh Gotcha I would be like no. That's not we need still need to talk about the like pictures. Remember our honey. Memories are so hilarious. There's also the shiny silver water pistol in the bash. Thought that she gotcha out of our best shooter and some other her shirt literally like the best was under under the shirt was over. The gun was a replica. Specific looking gun with Water Bonnie in in class you can't you can't help staring back because you love to see it because we love we love we all love to Eh Tony Perkins. She's been telling everyone and shady side that she's Beckon Norwood's best friend but Becca sure she's never met hunting before systematically madikwe moves in on Bekker's life copying her in every way but when Becca presumes to have more than one quote best friend the horrible accidents begin. Honey just one a friend Becca wonders or does she want more much more. Also super super are also talk about the cover the book for second so. There's a forty five year old mom that sitting in front of the city workers mistreated steph curry. The school does have the haircut. That Becca gets in the book. I wouldn't say vicious Auburn. This is a Von Best what. What did I say? Oh it's Beckham back has blond hair. Yup honey is Auburn Auburn. Why would you call someone honey? If they don't have okay. This is when I. I didn't never saw the cover because I was reading on kindle right haircut the picture in my mind tell us not this haircut like cute Pixie. He cut his full picks. You have to remember this nineteen ninety-two so I think this is the Nice my so called life by chance from the nineties. You remember that. The Mom S. Harper like her actresses. That's what I was imagining. It is that Bob but then you just blow it forward ouster and homo onto. Yes yes yes yes yes yeah that is the one thousand nine hundred. I'm short Pixie Cut. Yeah no to her credit so she is wearing the kind of genes that I am wearing right now which is again. Here's the problem When I bought these genes yes I specifically up to Mike and I was like do I look like like I love your jeans thanks well okay so the genes though but you'll see what I mean? Their lives Great Lake. Do I look like my friend's mom. From from Nineteen ninety-seven outlook. Specific Outlook is in but the urine. And I couldn't tell you I love the genes yeah I'm nervous about the jeans. I'm sorry the cover of what you don't have. The BECA has a braided blethyn other belts braided ninety ninety Shit Bell. I remember back braided belt. I'm living because I got it from crossroad. We loved not worn that that was like I have to get you know what's great about braided leather belt. You don't need gromit because you can just do shit. Yeah she goes us in any any any oil you can find. I hope that comes back in the twenties and twenty twenty perfect vision I raided bring. I'm back it's the perfect time. It's been enough time and we got any Christmas presents this year. That have a bendy swooping knife that sticking into your president bacchus because getting hot yet seriously looks like like Raja goal. Would you say it's like so like scares your cover. Your covered curve. Serve a little bit in a weird way or is this my cover literally. Looks like a scary curved Scimitar. Yeah and it says to my best friend and swoopy red versa which none of this happens in the book but I cover. You only know. It's Christmas because of the Christmas party. That tristesse throwing yes. That's right. That's right that her parents Harrisburg and it's not a big God's another like mine where it's like is she going to get to go and and then it's like my dad gave in. I was like white sign. Yeah why even threat that you so okay so basically this book and I wanNa tell you I wanna start this because I had papa says about where this book was going and I was wrong Okay who could have been right. This is crazy. I know this book is crazy. So she okay so she's like. Hey girls let my room. And she's knitting and sit ups. Yeah Oh Lila. Leyla Lila's reading Lila. Oh Oh my God. Oh that's why you said. She's like Lila L. L. A. H.. So yla and trash men. Her are hang on her room and her mom's down the hall. Honey bus then is like my writing. I I love description of her giant hands. One of you with the book. Read the description of honey hair. I was while. Oh you're doing that. I could not keep straight who the main character was. By the time we got back bedroom I was like okay so the one is her weird friend. Keep rereading thought. Lila was the main character. Because I totally forgot the BEKKER's crazy honey super crazy lila tall and pretty and Tristesse Chubby. Let me tell you. Let me tell you what honey looks like. She was about Becca size but with full figure. She wasn't exactly pretty pretty but she was a very dramatic looking with her flowing auburn hair down past her shoulders round gray eyes and full lips coated in dark lipstick stick. She wore a bright orange sweater that clashed with her hair and a green mini skirt over black tights. Becca couldn't help but notice. Eldest girls hands which were balled into tight fists at her sides. They were so big they seem to be the wrong wrong size out of proportion for the rest of her. I and this remake we got to cast the right girl big ASS hands can Hindu Perkins for Halloween this year. The three of us in this room will get it hands. That will paint like Caucasian Carolina. You're like costume new. Reveal the man I'm going to go as honey perkins for Christmas. The normal thing you do dress up as for Christmas I guess how many me honey Mr asking people that and like gas lighting. The shit out of my friends are doing like a group thing for Christmas this year. Right we're all addressing different man. So do you guys have for Christmas cost for somebody to convince themselves but like I I guess I gotTa Mike Hostage I era age increased. Listeners does the ghost of your personal finances haunt you. Every night rattled rattled chains and say hey. You've got financial responsibilities in this. 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FDIC equal housing lender okay room. They're like the LA honey comes in and she's ignoring her friends so I literally thought what if this is like like Becca is crazy and the other two girls don't exist and honey is like a like undercover. Find her life breath and I wouldn't put it past him especially because the last book we covered there wasn't undercover cop. Yeah being in a relationship and allowing Nixon's other side of dark age. Seventeen year old girl with a banging body who has been coma since she was thirteen so her minus thirteen oh it's very good good Gregg twenty three year old in fact that tracks a little bit because it they constantly reference Bekker's endless breakdowns in this book yet mysterious ones from before we've joined them in in the narrative really yes they talk about how she took the time when she broke up with Bill Maher at one point to calm down. She's like we can't have another thing like never mind anyway. Are you ready for whatever. And she's like yonkers are right and everybody at school keeps hearing about these breakdowns. Yeah it's like the haunting of Hill House where you're in the mind of the the person who is actually insane. Yes yeah but it turns out. That's not the case now. Where's the pretty cool I want? The best spread to write it is connor. It goes back and changes things changes. Yeah Wow bold strong choices. Strong classic are well. Yeah I think our own. We call sometimes Jovial Bob. That was that was that was his pen name when he was writing comedy. Jovial Bob Stein Oh Hi Jill Jovial Bob and now. It's Robert Lines Carlson. Yeah well thanks for having. Gosh no no no you keep going okay. He's just GonNa take every single the thing that was like making I mean I know. We're making all of us extremely crazy. was that the mom like this is like my nightmare nightmare. Which is where you know that someone is like fucked up and your parents are like no? They're nice her her mom by one hundred. They've so hard she's had it real rough 'cause how does it honey say her her mom died and then her dad has never around around But maybe she killed him maybe she who's to say we do find out though the honeys real and did know Becca that was shocking reveals right at the top all. She remembers she used to. I think violent Trish remember her as well as the second FAC- here in the class photo there like burst into tears all the time. Yeah and war-scarred honey like yeah honey. Has this memory of the day she was leaving and Jean Becker were crying and hugging each other. In a man on the street walked by saw the picture of memories are so specific yes or like that dead bird or something that they found a nurse or a life or whatever it was my favorite was when she was like. And then you hit up in your attic and Becca A.. So resigned that she just goes. I don't have an addict. He's like ignores her back. I just let's get away with it because she's been so browbeaten. Yeah she's so tired and don't have an attic it. It is one of those things where like I am shocked. That Becca didn't break sooner because like I think I don't know I've been I've definitely been there where someone is just gas lighting. You like so much and you finally just like start screaming I remember. I think we're told us on the show where I in my girl Scout Troupe when I was I think second grade our girl scout troop leader? I had a cough or something and so she just kept being like well Kellyanne. Yeah strep throat. Kellyanne strep throat Kelly. I wouldn't stop wouldn't just like oh well you know because Kelly strep throat and then finally I like I was like the weird quiet. Could that like didn't really have very many friends. So I just kept taking it in like not saying anything and I should let me sit alone at a table and keeping Kelly though says she can't hang out with the other and then I like was like drawing or something and threw it on my stuff and I was like picture like like honeybee like screaming. Why would you ever pretend that you know her if it if she came to school or I would a hundred percent fake just if she comes into your bedroom yeah I'm GonNa read where she enters because it is fully insane before backup could finish her sentence? The bedroom door was full lung open. Becca dropped her knitting lila sat upstream. Trish leapt to her feet. All through them stared in surprise as a girl with a main long auburn hair. Excitedly swept into the room. She shouted her is starting from girl to girl. Finally landing on Becca. The girl cried stepping over Lila. She bent down through her arms around BECO with those giant giant hands yes and wrapped up in a tight hug. I'm so happy to see you. She squealed her mouth open wide. Bewilderment Becka struggled wriggled unsuccessfully to free herself from the Girls Hug. I can't believe it the girl cried. Just can't believe it if you it's really you know we couldn't love it more. I love why does she. What is continue? She just keeps screaming about how she can't believe that cow violent Trish Acts like they aren't even there beyond like the one two three of seeing them in that moment where she goes. Oh there's Becca no acknowledge never and they will ask direct questions that she he does not answer cancer. She acts like there was some sort of natural silence in the room for a second and then just continues talking to Becca if somebody did that. She's like Oh. My God wouldn't wasn't me coincidence. We're going to be best friends again just like this remembering that. I wouldn't go okay. I'm just going to play along until I can figure it out. But here's insanity. Here's the problem and and I like and I used to be the type of person that was like I I would have stopped that immediately but if someone doesn't think with enough confidence sometimes you're just it's like okay like you're giving example. There's another story I really started to have to derail things. Oh this is totally off topic Kelly. The thing that you're about to say it's related needed to what we're talking about off topic doing well because you're strep throat so like so i. I was just showing the old car that I used to have like. Um the door sometimes wouldn't lock when I press the key fob and and so sometimes it just wouldn't close away but the alarm stewart so I had parked right outside my house and I was inside my living room and Lindsey. You've been my house. I have a balcony. That looks over the Driveway and I parked right outside there and I start hearing an alarm go off. It's very loud and very close so I got signed and there's a woman and sitting in my car and I was like Whoa wait like get the fuck out of my car. And she looks at me and she's like get out of my home and so she does and she's like this is my car and I was like an in my head. I'm like I guess maybe I was like no wait shit. No that's my fucking car. No get on my fucking car. She's like you WanNa see the keys and I was like okay. Okay so she gets out like a king like a million sober key. You showed me this. You're traumatizing me. was telling you about the I think like three were I would say I got my new car in two thousand sixteen so it was like two thousand fifteen. Yeah and she's like shaking the keys and I literally looked to see if there were car keys on there because I was like maybe maybe it is a car is her car. Har- like maybe I've been wrong this whole time. I was like okay because she was so confident she was like. Yeah that's my. It's my car shaking the keys at me. I was like oh no but no go the fuck away. Get away from my fucking car. And she's like well fine and then she gets herself and leaves talk. Yeah she's just sitting in there. Yeah I can't believe I've known you as long as I have and I have not heard this story but it's upsetting the fight if I didn't remember it. No I think I might have told it with a guest host but I listened to those while my God. I'm wow I can't believe forgotten it's like it's if someone is just like so confident though but for many seconds I was like okay. Okay like I would forgive Becca if it I. She's just like okay. I'll figure it out. But then she keeps saying memories of them being. It's probably immediately as like no my best friend in fourth grade was Dina Martindale or whatever. But I'm defending backer. But like and I think it's because you know you have this person who so clearly emotion on attach these memories. I think Becca felt guilty is like wow these really meant something to the scarlet. Meant so much turn. She recently lost her dad or mom. Or whatever you know you add that into the mix of it and it's like she is so intense about these memories memories like so upset about these memories that is like Oh my God. I don't remember this at all. I feel terrible. There's some guilt involves so much to her. Also like Every time she like tests the water and has like no honey shit. Yeah she's probably like Shit. If I like do something if I like Taylor. That never happened. She's going to like scream at me like she already gets so crazy about like Lila unlike Trish and those people like I would scared. Yes it okay I will grant you. Maybe that first night. Here's my reasoning. That I will gift to Becca. Okay eh a crazy person in my house. Yeah I need to placate them until they are gone and I am safe right. At which point I will sit. My mother are in father down and say here's what happened tonight. And then I went next door and she's not there the house it's empty. We need to be on the lookout for girl she. She said all these memories that didn't take place like meat. Trish and Lila remembered her but we were not friends with her mom. So please don't let this person and we all need to be on the lookout. I'll make sense it's other villains to are the friends who like Sauve this happen and then later when she's like she's coming on strong they're like now villa break every blonde everybody saying like. I don't know you seem in crazy right. Now that honey's upsetting you so much issue not telling any of these stories to people. These memories are so stephen even though when she goes over to bill's house and he says like maybe are we being too hard on her end. Cute bill think. That's not something you say. How bill the fifth year seniors on him? It wasn't a zeal. Talented the poll and his carpet house dirty greasy take a nail character in our front of him pushing his Berto into a whole. I wanted to fucking throwing US Navy. Corduroy cow I was like this. This is truly a hell scape that he. He's subjecting her to his toe going carpet. I couldn't and she wants him back so bad I remember what are you. Yeah what are you seeing him. She wants she wants his needy. Kisses is what she wants Eric Hauling at her anymore and his stupid laugh now. Oh yeah he always last. It makes her sick. She's not blame her. Yeah he's probably horrible and I would think it was weird like I. I don't think we should see each other anymore. Well it's been really low two seconds ago. Ours fucking pissed it you just because you wouldn't make out with me. I love that. He says it's been real. That is such a thing to say. I know want to say that to somebody might might come back later in some not necessary in a villain form. But I thought there'd be some sort of follow up to that something more than just seeing him across a field and like oh he's making out with honey which also the whatever not care did not care about area's taste men taking taking on fierce street. There's only so many guys to choose for also like a few say that you don't want to go out with somebody so mad and you have to go. I feel feel really bad about making them so mad. Yeah Yeah ooh yeah. Troubling books from the ninety s or like I know this is this is nine nineteen fifty eight it was yeah exact- Oh my God you guys why I and some people from work have decided to watch watch all of ally mcbeal a show I had. I've never seen that show is it's sexual. Politics are shocking really shocking. Tell me more every every time somebody has been sexually harassed it's played for laughs. That's like friends I'm starting ready to get shocked on. My rewatch is go on Hulu and watch. I think episode six of Season One. Okay it is a hauling hauling alley is is in court against this prosecutor or defendant. I don't know the lie doesn't really matter in the the first few centuries yeah their lawyer their lawyers. It's beside the point so there's a a guy who is overweight. WHO's she's arguing against against? She sees him in the hallway. She goes to confront him about something he has like heart palpitations and passes out. She gives him CPR. He's fine after that. Not and then. His fiancee comes to Allie. And he's like her she's like Oh my God thank you for saving him. He's the best thing that ever happened to me. It's so kind and the woman is also over overweight and she hugs alley and cracks her back. Because that's how big and strong this woman is And then he comes to Elian is like I'm in love with you. Do you think a person like you would be could be interested listed in someone like me and alleys like no and then he comes over he comes to her office again and he's like I totally appreciate that. You can't be with me. I get it but like can I talk to you about the fact that I'm not really in love with my fiance. I love her as a person but like I'm just marrying her because you know we're both oh by the way that we look and me and my co workers augers are screaming. They have no other choice and so he says he was like should I go through with it and she was like I grew up. I'm very room. I am romantic. I think think that we make ourselves a promise when we're little that we're going to be excited walking down the aisle to see the person were in love with and if you're not feeling it then you're not feeling it and maybe you shouldn't marry her and he's like thank you so much breaks it off with a fiance fiance comes back to her. And it's like you have doomed him to a life of loneliness because if you think that he's GonNa find somebody else people like me in him don't have the luxury of falling in love. Oh and again. We are screaming screaming. Oh my gosh. So allie sees him again and takes back what she told him and is like you know what I was trying to think about somebody who I thought might be good with you and I think of my friends and I don't think they'd ever be willing to date you again. We are screaming. And he's like you're right you're right and they get married and Allie comes to the wedding because they saw it was so it's like when it comes to the subject of weight. That's what it's like when it comes to the subject of race. That's what it AH whenever alley feels like she's been trodden upon she brings up some sort of oppression. That happened to black people. There is a scene where she trips a woman. In a grocery store store she gets arrested for it and and the when the police officers taking away she's like watch it need. I remind you of Rodney King and we're like really that's nice there's a scene where somebody has quote unquote hired her to try to get set a rabbi to grant the woman a get which is like Jewish settlers divorce under like Judaism. You have to not just be legally divorced worse if you want to get married in the temple you have to be divorced in the eyes of the temple yes and this is not the law. That's not you don't hire a lawyer to do this. But whatever alley keeps being so fucking antisemitic like instead of Mazal Tov. She says mistletoe. What why would you ever even things like this? Lots fucking stupid. He's like thank you for insulting my religion and she's like sorry but maybe your common sense can't get it through because of that thing on your it's fucking wash talking shocking. This show is insane. Ecology allergy sort of nineties. Like everything horrible is played for laughs. It women get by on their looks. There's another one where they're defending a prostitute and Peter mcnichols. Character gets up and he's like but don't women always use sexes currency and they're like they do not guilty t. That's so bad. It's not just bad badly written yeah it is an evil show. Wow Wow puts bad messaging out there. They just so indicative what the ninety s was like in pop culture. Yeah in your rewatch of friends friends. Have you come across the episode yet where phoebe is just giving massage therapy to a guy and he reaches up and gropes her track place no and he keeps doing it and every time it happens laugh track plays and she's like I don't know what to do and everyone's like well. You're lucky he's hot. I remember that yeah. It is nuts that like so much of that stuff was played for laughs in the nineties. See I'm hyper sensitive. The no homo stuff because like yeah seriously I should clarify. I've actually haven't seen friends a series all the way through. I just every Thanksgiving would watch the Thanksgiving episode in this year. The first year was watching them and it started to hurt my feelings a little bit and I was like. I don't have to watch this this year because there's so so many like jokes whole characters others mom it's like super transphobic too. It's like the whole Super Super Transphobic Kathleen Turner and I was like I would never take that role these days. That was like yeah better now. That was a mistake. I am sorry yeah right at that. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. People have to like you know say it's like snow flaky to watch that and feel triggered by now but but you have to understand that when kids are young watching these things or kids. accentless caught an episode of ally. mcbeal you pay attention to where the laugh track is because it's socially conditions of what's funny. What's acceptable not acceptable? Yeah and kids. It's watching listening to pay attention to that stuff. And then that's what they should do at school. That's what they do and then think about yourself. That's how you you victimize yourself in your mind. Yeah everyone who's now or you're eating and who's right a man is so rich and married to Michelle pfeiffer. Yeah Wow Mike look to that last night. That was shocking shocking. We Love Michelle Five. We Love we love to see her to see her. We love to yes. We hate to see what we hate to see alley mcbeal. I keep watching so that I can scream about it and then tell others show us. Ah I have to get that message out there before somebody reboots it. Mike was like you should reboot it and I was like no uh-huh I need you to reboot fear street. I need I need you to do the best friend I I already real needs to be like like the same exact. Every line is the same. There's no work your there's no there's no work to do any big organization like Secretario work. Yeah that's collating. I love collating typing. Yes yeah anytime. I was involved in a club I tried to be secretary. That's right. That sounds about right. Yeah yeah sounds like the ninety S. Yeah yes did I lose secretary class secretary in sixth grade. Yes I did. Oh I think I ran for secretary to. Oh but that's crazy. I got my revenge because when we took the gifted and talented tests giftedandtalented education main gate. The Guy who beat me for Secretary Lake came up to me. And he's like oh I got. I got a ninety eight point. Eight is like pretty high like Oh yeah cool. I got the ninety eight point nine so I was like. WHO's the secretary now secretary? Now Bitch Secretary Yeah. I wasn't gate to gate. No I don't know that California thing maybe California. They're young. Yeah there you go okay. So let's let's talk about all of like let's try and like narrow down all of honey's instances of either gas lighting or like like her fake memories. Can I point I'd like a yes so many. There's something she does. It's very small. That drives me insane a little bit. I think it right in that scene to where she's like. Oh my God. I love your posters on your wall. You've such great taste and Bekker's like whatever I don't even want these posters and like how can I have them. Can I have them. Yeah you know like like all take them and back realizes shifts really want honey just staring. I'll take the now okay. Like that stuff. Drives me crazy crazy. And then she was like I guess. I don't have to get them now. We live next to each other anyway. Then I think uses that to explain clean where she took the parrot him Like she's doing sort of a half like I said the first one drove me bucket shots. What's next she's like your ask your friends and I'd be like okay? No problem because I didn't fucking say that. Give me my pin. Yeah bill gave me as a very weird. You told me. Yeah I can have in the first thing keys. Beautiful Silver keys okay. The first the first sort of strange while I guess strange thing that we see with honey those is Becka coming home from school and honey's in her room crying talking talking to never mind talking to someone and trying on her clothes yes and she's wearing that's when she's wearing the silky blue blouse she is. She's wearing the scourge skirt that that that Becca hasn't even try has even put on worn wrapping paper skirts. So he's going to where over slinky black catsuit to the Christmas party. You'd be Christmas I I. It's not great. I'm picturing it and it's not great. I can't even really picture it. Honestly can I can I can. That's good. It looks like I need to see like what do you I I I literally googled catsuit while we were while I was reading it and I needed. Yeah like legs and arms legs right together. Legs and arms together all black and she. We know the skirt is silver. We know it's shiny way I'm still stuck on the catsuit. Actually self was the neck. Go up like a Turtleneck as crew neck like a crew necks being a scoop neck serving us like ballet. This is what she serving us. Seventh Grade Dance Recital. Okay it is it is it Meryl Streep Death Becomes her. That's got a black catsuit. Been Aker No. It's the last night. Maybe that's why it's in my head. Okay so she's not the cat to. I always imagine the catsuit as that fabric. That's lightly Sparkley. You're not so interesting. It doesn't say that we talk about the the silvery doesn't say we talk about the said the black cat is slinky. I know that I think it's like a Lycra but it's not. I don't know if my little gas wanted to be sparklys show. I think there's a shiny shimmer to it now. I think we're saying I think it would have been better. But let's facts are facts and that's how it is look. I'm not giving you my opinion. I'm giving you. The facts are facts. Erica my opinion is I don't Wanna I don't WanNa bring my feelings into it. How we have gotten Puckett about facts? What actually that's why we're we're catsuit? WanNa be part of the problem. It's the it's the stretchy material you were like in the light it has like that Sheen. Yes like where. It's like hitting it. Well that's like Jay Carney. Your skin is through so you would see flash photo the red carpet you can see right through it which you need to be wearing like cargo fisherman suit suit silky silver skirt underneath orange skirt looks like a picture. It's me a wraps ker. Don't don't know why so picturing sort of like almost pencil skirt oh silly straight just like or nothing much to be crazy accordion. Is that too much. Sorry I on the fact that I prefer that. But you're right it's out there but I think it's silky many for me it's like a crappy wrap skirt like you know the ones that kind of look like I'm picturing dance outfit. I think I'm a sexual electorally in this time. In those listening have given more thought time listener. Missile sign did when he was nine percent. I'm sure he's like girls like shiny stuff. She has a Chinese silver skirt over a black catsuit and that yeah and yet here we are ruminate to a question. Yes we only knows silver Silver skirt it just keeps saying Silver Sarai needs more than that then remember. There was a moment where she's describing and she's like I found this great silver skirt Italy going to just bring bring their into tears. Yours is really short in the little shop in the old village. Yes yes I got a great skirt. Becca like I said enthusiastically. It's really short and really silky. If any silver silky mini skirt though. So it's not tight because I imagine it being sort of like allusively kind of yeah be like but like like it really moves. Yes on her body but short. I should've guessed it was just like a strip of fabric. That's around her waist. Yeah but I saw it. Being like sort of a fold over. Waste is the material with a zipper. It's remarkable enough people comment on it at the party. Yeah and it's unique enough that everybody thinks what a funny fucking joke. Yeah that when honey which was up. She hasn't been the executive haircut that bitch. Honestly Talk Choker and push her down some stairs. Cut The brakes in her bike. Yeah you know what Poetic Justice. Yeah you push her down some stairs you proper up on a bike pusher in front of a truck and then after she's been hate. Hey you go up and you strangle her yes yes night with the balloon. o- silting it over her face and your water board with the new wave hair then you hold a knife onto the night with her blue her. I see blue blouse gets water on it. Yes yes I've been crash your car. And then crashing car. Have Eric come over and just like go. It's been unreal twenty-one feedback. Yeah that's the other thing. Do you remember the moment where shows like China to about bikes and you can tell that. Rl has done like a little bike research because she's like what kind of bikes did you guys have. What is that like a three speed and Becca um speed or something like that? He probably had one also inducements books. He loves extended baseball sequences. which date on? I don't identify with could I on. I don't understand that we were down third and the bases were loaded. And we're like what the what we've noticed as the RL Stein loves is that the Joker Guy like the funny joke boy likes put food on his face or body Support Egg on his eyes. Earlier there is very fifties joke. Fuck Oh wow right. which was wow something like that? Oh I love that skirt the most beautiful. Oh but see. Here's the thing I would. I would kill someone for for that skirt. I will kill someone gaslight. Someone choice like I was approving of the out. What was in my head back her wearing I know that this instill she's oil skirt? She's wearing tin skirt that area shiny. Yeah very short shiny gunmetal gun metal Eh. Really good with black cats and that's a wrap. It's a wrap. Yeah it's a IT'S A. It's a wrap low. Yeah rap look. I don't think it's officially rap. Has the the piece that goes over yes with long catsuit right aim to the ankles. Your and I'm picturing her in like little either black booties uh-huh or a belly flat and I don't know if that's too early. Two thousands of not nineties enough or she's wearing patent leather pumps We we don't get. I don't think we talked about the shoes. I can do. Something he doesn't that probably won't pay off but I'm going to Google goal. Black catsuit silver mini skirt. Yes yes does your trailblazer. Oh I I don't i. I mentioned shoes. A whole doesn't at all no. I don't think he would know what to do with women's shoes that's try and was like Oh. I can't believe how much you talk about Christmas rap songs in at the party he does. Oh Yeah you think of any does also say like what. Is this the guns guns and roses Christmas album. Listen to yes. And then they meant he. Bruce springsteen Bruce springsteen Christmas song yes he does like an goosebumps books he does do pop. Culture references references. That date them for sure every now and then he does a fake pop culture for instance. I prefer that doesn't exist in fruit bag or something like the greasy speedster's or something. Yeah something like that. 'cause you immediately date yourself when you're like I had my bruce springsteen poster would I don't know it's in the nineties even listening to the I don't even know. Yeah he should steer away from should have steered away from it. I don't get it wrong. I love are all Stein. We're just pointing out the things we picked up over five years of podcasting. It's out of love. It is always always is always read the Prom Queen that is one of my the sussman. I can't remember but I know yes. It's the covers radio so I couldn't nothing came up however career the black catsuit that skirt would have been over. Oh she would be those type of shoes. Ashley Wears Shoes Green. No they are. They look like black patent leather at black patent leather. Is I have to be honest if I saw beca wearing that with those shoes. And that's the party. This and a blonde pixie girl. Yes and then. When we we're looking uh-huh Blackley crew persons of fish via twitter fishermen vest women in this where it's like the cop six bigger if we don't Philip cotton balls? We don't know you have to demonstrate wow so salaries holiday off it is really something honest. I bet. Honey Look Kinda cute wearing it to imagine auburn hair with all ribbing long ribbon lease ribbon better maybe honey honey perk honey perkins weren't better off the way to go with that particular outfit with. Yeah what color skirt. Oh you know what it was metallic. Yeah John Oh interesting bronze talking about which color so which color skirt I would go with. Honey's hair I think like jade colored metallic. You're writing. Your Christmas tree should be the most popular girl in school. Hands Hands Behind her down now. She's at those push. Trish Trish ends up face first into some cake. Yes that's right her head Kakinada angle barely breathing fucking Nash. That always that line. I mean we're way ahead now. That line makes me laugh so hard. Because it's like you know. BECCA wakes up from from a crazy coma. 'cause she's constantly passing out because she so crazy. Yeah and then she's like is tricia cater. Mom's like she's okay. She broke her neck. But she's GonNa be okay. I love when they're like. Oh no she's not breathing she's dead and then she's like oh they don't move the body but I'm like she's choke on that K- K in the cake you cry. They're not supposed to move her about move her about the cake we got something. Something's gotTa be must be. Can we talk about also the fact that after that happens when Becca absolutely absolutely snaps and the doctor comes over and he her mom keeps saying that she needs to get total rats. Total total phone call. I might not mean said this very time today if very like yellow wallpaper. Let's lock her in the attic because like she's hysterical like it was like She needs total total. Rats statement. Ever heard that for you know John Phillips Yeah. I'm going to start saying it now I I. I don't early total. I want them to go. Yeah and total rest just feels very dramatic. Feels very like sunset boulevard. Mary of like my friend. Jason is I like. He very often can't do something if he has one thing that he did that. We because he has to decompress musty. That here is Trish falling the stairs or the description of her. And then here's the end of the chapter before and then Trish landed with a sickening crack. which which is classic crappy green crowd size but there's also a crunch yes? He loves people pull out long WOO. SHES OF AIR India. Yes yes he people falling downstairs. Have you guys ever read any Ah V. C. Andrews. No Oh my gosh really scary oops I know mother's been lying. The whole time though. Like drama like timeless taking place in maybe the forties or governor triggering. But there's like what like in a true trauma Wade. Johnny Stop Lying. Yes yeah and if you read the stuff actually written by her she is feminist. Celestin like it's it is good at least on the right side of history. Yeah there are certain ghost writers that are bad but internecine being one. But there's one part where I would say. They talk falling down the stairs moment though. Yes is when Vera falls on the stairs she has brittle bone syndrome falls. Don't spiral staircase spinal. Choose she's brittle bones. It sounds like she is total she does get at the bottom of that circuit. I'm so sorry is brittle bone cinema real thing it is it is but she is at the bottom of the stairs and she's like it just went on the part of skin like she's this just like completely bagged by X. Shells and a scam to bet she was carrying cake. Can I tell you I know gets the actual seen my favorite like. It's not really falling downstairs but is a death. It's not in the goosebumps book series Goosebumps Television Show in the headless ghost. There's this lore of this little boy who lived in this House House and he was spoiled. And you always get stuff sent by the servants up through the dumb waiter and what he loves. More than anything with strawberry draw area is always strawberry ice cream all day all night. He would ring his balance. Want strawberry ice cream strawberry ice cream with the dumb waiter and he would eat it for days and the dumb waiter is coming up with the strawberry ice cream in it. Stops right a little bit below where it's supposed to so the boy opens the dumb waiter and he reaches out to get ice cream but it's lower than than it he reaches and he's like he needs to strawberry robbery ice cream to get that fixed he asks board leans forward reaches for any falls and he crashes and the drum waiter goes all the way to the bottom and when people found him they couldn't tell the difference. The boy's face and it was so good Konak. That's great. Oh yeah all night isn't imagining West. Later Death to or I guess the people who wrote that show with actually not hit. That was ever talk. Show which will be my life. When I'm writing these tips? Yes which they're calling point fear because they're they aren't calling it point horror and they're only focusing on his books. That's which is saying. Please unacceptable so many female writers in the Point Point Horror series. Yeah and almost all protagonists or female. So instead they're gonNA focus only on male written books with executive producers. Rl Stein. And John. What you really John? I'm choose involvement shoes on it. Yeah he's GonNa he's executive director. I'm excited very notoriously. Torius Louis do whatever you want with my stuff. He's he's he's asked you for super headstones not precious about his stuff at all so I'm sure he's just like sure what everyone do. Whatever he doesn't care go for it? He's buried they would go to the other lesser known writers too. But that's the thing it's like. They want that name they wanted. That name hasn't Stephen King isn't that true. We certainly written more like you combine goosebumps and Fear Street and his point horror books and he's coming back with the new fear street books which we don't really like them. Yeah we only read you may now kill the bride covered fucked. That is so crazy crazy. You shop into knows it's all that is my least favorite kind of Rl Stein. 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Talks a month at MIT MOBILE DOT COM slash team creeps. We get something. That's which is up at the end of this book which I'm assuming we'll talk. We'll go deep is pretty unusual for have very rarely happens. We sort of wears order. One instant basically I. It was weird I was like. Oh are we going to find out what goes through. Honey's mind we really. It's not even the full chapter after it's still starts out with Becca and then it it's just the last half There's Rita's the stairs. Tristesse cross when when we last left off there was a sickening crack. That's right next Chapter Chapter Twenty three a Frightening Silent Knight. Everyone seemed to freeze as if caught in a snapshot. Shot a snapshot of Horror. The fire popped noisily in the fireplace. Someone screamed the room came back to life. Becker was one of the first to scramble across the room to Trish. Trish had landed face down her chest on top of the cake the dark icing and cream filling. Excuse me the dark icing and cream filling had splattered bladder out across the floor. Chris didn't move her eyes were closed. Her head was tilted at a pick Yulia Angle. What immediately lately falls into something worse later I think falls is very frustrating? which is one honey? No ooh king gas here. This tristesse head. It was tilted wrong. It shouldn't be bent like that. Yeah that's the other part. So like there's just like a ton of her own and then she. She requested change the schedules that she could be in home room with her and sit next to her and they walk together to school every day. I was not going to be surprised to find out that that was the only class. That honey was attending. Yeah Yeah Yeah and then just walking sometimes I take my bike and then literally honey goes yes. I need to get a bike. Why do you have the like the inability ability for her to take a hint and like it's like back hourly easel? You're getting the hint Bekker's like Actually I have this like like why can do that. And she's like this. Why do that too? It's very. She's especially now that you don't have lila anymore. Yeah I know and then after Trish she it's like why don't you phrase it like that. Yeah I love that moment of Becca going. That was a very interesting way to put. That is it's such a that is like a very very subtle little slip like now that you don't have lila anymore. Now that I don't have her. Yeah what is your saying Jews like. Yeah now that Lila had her accident pitch. That's not how you now that I'm your only friend and like also backup honey. took the break. Yeah cable out out of out of flightless but like Becca she lives. I think I'm really paranoid 'cause like the second that should happen. I would be like mm-hmm walking hung did that. I don't know how they're she does think that no. But like she's like a little. You said that. But like I would have been. It's like that bitch just sabotage my friends bike. She's been acting. I mean she mentioned that to Trish when they're walking around the track instead of being at lunch and Tricia yes and bill and Tricia something like it'd be really dangerous to accuser that like that's not fair the fact that every goes interesting. He's kind kind of cute. Also the one hit on you disease chapter break but were hunting. I mean Beca says what do I do about hunting interests like we. We can just kill her and then cut to new chapter. I'm just kidding that'd be crazy. He's like yeah me too. I was also getting being also. I just thought it was like really unfair for Becca to not let Trish eat lunch. Like I think that she should have been like. Let's get to like just get like we can get granola bars and we'll walk. It said she's like no. We must walk and not I would have another breakdown. Yes she was like whenever you say all of your breakdown Well it was the ninety s and this is a bit Chubby sued work on that. What was the book that we read where the girl used to be Chubby In worked in track administration at her schooling ran along sw sixteen candles. Areo Nicholas Prime. Yes mm-hmm yeah because she ran a bunch Yes I take it hot hot. Yeah so so. All the happens happens happens. It's nothing but God. This book is so frustrating. It is such a crazy read. Yeah I mean it does it is very upsetting. It feels like you're in bed with a fever at Christmas time. Time downstairs at a party and your fever is so high. I can't tell you why because you have strep throats. Yeah well yeah you can't use your like it is. It is delicious in in the way that like I could see this living in a lifetime movie basically already is yeah. It's it's great it like as soon as it was like the last period was typed. It became a lifetime. Happy as I would love love for this to be lifetime movie a Lifetime Christmas movie. Yes yes more than anything more than anything. Yes if there is a god it's up to us. We must know someone. Yea The lifetime movie that you wish to see in the world. Wow let's pitch it. It's this one left for us to do it and cast ourselves. People are went to high scores. Your the life time move. Yeah like one hundred percent yes however we don't change data. Can you play back on. Can I play honey. I want not so bad that we're like we're clearly into adult man. Yeah these teenage girls. Second Oh well I. I can't wait to where the cat Su he was going to wear the loose ribbons. We'll have to you. I think I should be honey honey. You're heroin thank you honey yes I should be. You should be honey. Yes the mortgage show as I am. I am honey and Daniel back. Yeah Yeah No you might be Becca guys. You're both trying to gift the other one with the same one. Aw very sweet yes honey. You're right you're Trish and I do my own stuff. Lie Down stairs facing some cake. Nick I love the breakdown for for Lila be must be able to ride a bike and do her own stunts extended sequences of setups. Yes my God thanks must be willing to do sit ups on Canterbury all see. The thing is very the sit ups while talking thing reads as like a horror movie from the seventy S. What the team makes me laugh? I was like like Oh this is so this is so does not feel my like my natural at you guys as is like Oh my God. Some old white man wrote this book. Look about what he thinks teen girls said about and talk about. Yeah not as aggressively as some of the other ones. Yeah but less than some of his other ones too. 'cause like I think his work in cheerleaders is like really good as far as painting. Teenage Girls But this did kind of feel like we'll come on. What are you going to wear to the party? A lot of. It's like they're like surprising. Time to flesh them out as characters though because so busy writing all the gas lighting. Yes the time. There's no time to find out WHO BECCA is. We have to drive her crazy as quickly as possible. Yeah and nor should we find out anything about honey. We don't find out about event. Why why do we never find out why she's doing that? Normally we would apply. That's what usually that's a genius. Move because it kind of reminds me of like some of the old like horror movies. How like wet wet before we were like? But what Mike Myers. We'd like exactly it's like. Why do we care but then once the white back we'll back a while back but that's the thing why the Rosenblatt Christmas why the like why? Why Pacific Yeah why? The specific campers in The the difference for me is that those are personal killings not personal this is so very and it's so important portent to honey why sanity why Becca what just h- The death of her mother short haircut and they have fun yes. Is this a like what drove off the deep end. Why why BECCA and wine now? Yeah Yeah it is. Yeah it's not really like a spree killing it's literally like I'm all about yes and it is. Yeah I mean she is rewriting history. Yeah Beca yes she has written fantasy. Why Not Lila? Why Not Trish could have been anyone? She knew anyone with grade class. Mentioned Ribas got all the money and Riva Huh is yeah rivas like someone that you wanna steal their life. It bugs me. That Riva does not end up learning from Silent Knight. No she never. I want to choose to love Reba. reba yeah no it is it is. Yeah but okay so so so. There's Gasoline Gasoline Gossiping. It culminates in. She's like so beca get so like it breaks down so many times that she gets physically sick. Yes and she's got a fever yes. She's resting in her on tranquilizers tranquilizers non stop because she needs total rest I yes then she has like a white out then a blackout and now many states and then she like wakes up. And then someone's calling and it's honey in you can come over. I have something to show you in that she. Here's bill giggling in the background. I don't think she here's bill giggling so she's like gotTa go free voices no bill yeah he does end up being. So she's like I gotta go over there so she stumbles over. Were there dranked out and in a robe she puts on her own. She's like peeks through the windows and she's like bill and honey are smiling at each other. Which means that bills cheat on? We also did skip that hunting. Eric date for a second and then she breaks up with Eric just like you did Becca wink wink. I know which I guess. If you're going to like Alan and the Olive Bekker's greatest it. And then she she approaches and she she honey approaches Beckett says is that why. You're so upset at me because of Eric and Beck is like it's really genuinely not because you're crazy you're ruining my life. I deeply don't care about area. I really don't she's like no. I know this is about Eric. No girl truly. It's not not that I was laughing a lot because it was like. It's so frustrating because she's like okay. No no no. It's not that it's not that it's it's not eyecare Eric. It's it's that you dumped Eric because I dumped Eric. Do you like being me because there was never any dumped eric. Yeah it's not. Give a fuck about you being with Eric. And she's take your upset about air over lie right before she chokes her the fake memory that she's feeding her her is game. Yeah right before Gotcha. I wish that was the arousing sold in Burns and noble well. Well it's just a pair of just. Don't realize that like the reason why the Gotcha game was soaking. So can you pillow hand able to get those hands all the way around Polish sausage around her neck. He's like really done. Got Deluxe edition of the game to come with a silver water pistol and it you have to wear the at the beginning of the game you roll dice. Whoever ruled the highest is honey and has to put the ribbon? Yeah Yeah so before their rousing game of Gotcha fake memory. She's feeding her. Is that remember how people always used to say they looked like twins uh-huh and and back like no we do not look like what are you know because we were the same outfits all the time when we we trade socks we treat pants. We treat everything and it's like and Becca is still at the point where she is like. I remember this. I know EXC ask. These memories are so specific does that affect and like their. What sixteen in this book? Seventeen maybe I think sixty and they. These memories are from third grade fourth grade. So that's like it's not that long ago years ago this research cert and you still have your memory. Ten fourth graders like would it be like okay so I do think that I probably just forgot that story of yours. We're the one sitting in your car. I'll never forget it. Imagine now I hope that I don't because that is a gorgeous story is like imagine if it wasn't just that I forgot got you told me that story I was that woman. Yeah that is what this is life you and you. Oh I these are your. You're like Oh yeah I guess I did it. I guess it's just so sorry I I am at a point like because my memory is so bad mike. My boyfriend will say something. You'd be like remember and I'll go no so I'm just going to have to take your word for it happened. I have to but I am not BECCA. Bekka is yes team won also like it is like. There's so many stories stories that like usually. If I'm reminding that happened after more details you like. Oh Yeah but these are like my realization. I need three pieces of of context in the Nike. That's what makes various things are very very specific but when their stuff like the fact that she doesn't have an attic and that's part part of the story than the that's a moment where you're like. Okay Oh yeah you're right. That's yeah that that I don't have an attic. I didn't have an attic. Does not acknowledge that that was said Komo. That's young Nana's do your homework do your homework. That's the thing is get your lives right specific about the things you know you can be specific about and vague about the things you don't. That's that's what she should've been doing the whole time ish she. It should have been that she was like watching. And maybe that's why it's Becker. So she was watching back in fourth grade imagining if she was back as friend seeing things that happened between Becca and other people. And then you show up and you say that that was you guys. Yeah yeah sure. It's like we're like what could be true from context tax bill. Does she remembers on of like Song that they all sang together as a class in assembly or something and she's like yeah and we were standing next to each other remember and then you dropped your music and I said that you could look over mine and and then we kept laughing and giggling. Yeah but it was like and she saw forgotten that looks right. Yeah exactly or you seasoning. That happens right. And you're like like Oh yeah and like at lunch like we always sit this one table and I remember like your mom always used to have ham sandwiches coaches for you in like you hated ham and like if those things are true and you saw the way to get away with us doing shit like that and it's when it if if if Becker's then like I don't remember you I don't remember that instead of fully freaking out you just go. I guess soon. We weren't as good a friends as I do very quietly. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Exact- here's another idea. Honey Bee likable. That's that's the problem I maybe if you're likable like and she had her hands behind her back and I saw her at the party wearing a catsuit skirt I'd like a whole lot. And then she bring her hands on the windows. When does it break? The tree gets knocked over. Yeah I mean yeah. That's the thing is like monsters. Just not good good. She's not good at talented mister rippling. She talked to Mr Ripley is he was good at talented mister rippling. Until he started to get bad at it until he got to when you get too comfortable dribble and sloppy good. You've got to be nice. You GotTa be nice to the parents gotta get in good with the parents. Yeah it's fucking things. That's the problem album. She's lying about random shed will. She ends up sort of getting away with all of it sort of so a little bit more than Sorta so beca comes. I don't know we call it. I don't know what the next scene after this or Beca to the house. We don't even know if honey actually lives never do we never find a model title home she should. I can't wait to find out if we do in best friend too. Yes she gets these freaks out she sees them and she's like a knife and she's like you does you just need to fully Russia's at honey holding the night out at her chest and then paints and faint and then faints because she can't hang and and bill comes to save. This is when we leave. We leave the perspective and it's not first person but we leave the perspective of Becca and then bill. We'll get sloppy fight with its money. I don't know why he's like he's like reaching for the knife handle and I was like really just like us take her on the knock could out of her hand just like be more aggressive. He just wasn't so it's but BECCA was screaming too loud to hear her screaming as she flew across the room screaming out out her fury as she lunged toward honey with the knife. Aimed at honey's chest yes go. Yeah the bill manages to get. The knife doesn't in the scuffle he a he dislike. It gets away from BECCA. Yeah he gets it out of BEKKER's hands I guess or he knows on the ground and then tries to grab it. They're struggling a he has. Is it at one point and then honey has it. And then he falls down falls like into the the knife and honeys like yes as he stumbled back. He made a desperate desperate attempt to hold onto the knife. But honey had it now. Catching his balanced bill surged forward reaching reaching and tumbled into the knife and the blade appears to his chest startled honey uttered a shrill cry and then he's dead and she's like Okay take knife put in back as hand. WAKEUP BECA used to have him. I'm so sorry I will protect you. Know it was self defense and Becca like you. That's the moment when it switches to honey it's like each and honey. It's he's dead honey realized he's dead and his blood is so bright becca stirred. She groaned bub-bubba honey force like now what honey thought her heart pounding now. What now what? Now what it's like. WHOA when when did we jump? Yes now honey honey thought so. We don't we we still don't get any of what her this was positive the whole time. Yeah I wish we have been in her brain before I want to know so. Then she's like don't worry I'm going to take care of you. I'll be your best I can. I play you my. It's so funny. Oh I'm a crazy person. Let me just say this person that you can absolutely play that I last night I was finishing this book and I was taking a bath and for no one I recorded the last two a paragraph out loud I just was like I need to read this out loud. Because it's ludicrous but you play yours. Yes so as previously mentioned this might really really outlines a lunatic is a total. Maybe I'll secure my spot so funny but let me see. The last paragraph is zero ludicrous. Okay let's see I'm GONNA kill honey. I have to kill her killer killer used to be the very very read back at your best friend your best when she not really fucked up cover of let it snow anyway. The book ends with Becca. Saying thank you honey. BECO- whispered gratefully so beca believe she did it yes she finally broke. This reminds me. It's like sort of like the end of psycho when he fully thinks he's his mom and he's sitting in jail and he's like I won't move they'll see they'll say to themselves wouldn't even hurt a fly and that's what it feels like to me where it's like like don't worry I won't ever let them know and I'm GonNa Take Care of you take such good care of you. I'm GonNa Take Care of you. Becca don't worry you're my best friend friend because you're my best friend it's like. Her eyes are getting wider and wider wider until they eventually take up the entirety of her face and then her smile just climbs wines to the ceiling diamond where Russia and then our hands in fold. Okay until it's honey. It's all honey. So what happens like okay. Do we learn more about honey in the second book lease well does it start in jail. Here's what I'm thinking I'm all I'm GonNa read you the description the letter. The sign wrote to the readers. How awesome description the book? I'm so tempted not to tell you guys. The best friend to is at volunteers to come back onto Rio because what has to read the letter. You guys will come back dear readers. A few years ago. I wrote a book called the best friend. Hundreds of you wrote to tell me how unhappy you are with the ending you thought honey Perkins Workin should pay for her crimes. But I needed your help. I wasn't sure exactly what should happen to honey so we held a contest to let you decide what eight thousand of great ideas. It was hard to choose but I finally picked my favorite a girl named Sarah bic men. I'm sorry from Grafton. Wisconsin set entry. Please thank you Sarah. So here's the book you've all been waiting for honey is back. And she's after Becca Norwood this time honey will get what she deserves won't she won't. She gives us more than that. The book description the best friend. Who can I give that? S BECCA is so relieved. She's finally ready to forget all the horrible things. Her best friend honey did to her real friends. She can even forget the way she was blamed for all events. She's completely over it. So why does she keep seeing honey everywhere she goes use I. She thinks it's immagination but then the threats begin the phone calls late at night. The terrifying messages left in her locker. Honey honey is back love him and this time she won't stop until Becca is dead. Let me tell you this book is split up into three parts and the twists are fucking insane really is is it a super chiller thriller however Taylor that I mean the best friend definitely isn't I was just 'cause I was just re re reading. You guys will not believe to leave the things that happened in the best friend to okay. 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158 COVID Long Haulers

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158 COVID Long Haulers

"The you kind of like this guy. But when you can't decide between the filet o. Fish or the big. Mac he says mortgage. You both thank you. You definitely mike this guy. Meal get at mcdonald's when he get to of your faves two six bucks. Only participation may vary single him regular-priced listening to own doctors called definitely on outkast's doctor. Dr found g of course elastic foul she and the now the only audio through the literally diagnosed with chronic microphone technique alison gohmert. Hello everyone. I'm jen alley. Welcome to two girls one podcast. We are the two girls. And if you wanna know who we are guys. I've said this interest domini times. But if you don't know who are alley and i were performers. We had a live comedy. Show where we use the internet as our script. We had a web series called two girls. One show you can find that on who we interviewed people behind internet. It's scripted adventures. Everything's about the internet for us. And you know now. We're here with two girls one podcast but the daily died and our producer matt hyde that tokyo low. We're talking to people behind internet communities and phenomenon that we find interesting. We're happy that you're here. Today's topic is hyper relevant. Even though it's online at is most certainly very real for all of us in the world today. Allie i've haven't even asked how you how you're doing but let's just say what are we covering to. What are we. We are covering cova dh long haulers so this is something that wasn't really acknowledged until pretty recently but it's that covid isn't just even if you survive and even if you're not if it's pretty mild for you it's not just a two week thing. There are people that are suffering from covid for months and months and months who are on disability It's it's like fucking crazy. And we found out that their facebook groups popping up to help people deal with this especially as the medical establishment doesn't quite know yet that's right so we're speaking with crater and admit of the covid nineteen long haulers facebook group. You know tell you a little bit about that group. It says you know there are many people who have suffered of our hundred days of debilitating symptoms. Their children young adults mothers and fathers who share one thing. They were very different before covid. So we'll be you know. We have tons of questions for our guest today. Michelle and we'll get there shortly. But i do want to tell our listeners. What when. I say shit about cove at this point i clicked out. I can't i've just everywhere. I'm done with it in the media just obsessed. We're gonna not exactly cover covet. We're going to focus on the community. These people have formed. And so we hope you'll stick around on the people you might say. Focus smashing human right allie. Do you want to share your story from this week or now. What's my story from the speak that you drove ten ten hours to maybe utah. You're okay sorry hours. There was a covert connection. No no it's all good. It's all good. i arrived. i arrived here and my friends got a call that someone he saw last week tested positive. Now's like well. marta here. And exposed of your exposed but he got his results back today and he tested negative. So i think we're all good. Yeah yeah story. I don't know. I mean i'm in utah. It's really. I'm enjoying just like visiting winter. It's cute you know what i mean like. I can't reach. How winter is it. It's snowing. I'm gonna go skiing this weekend. That's fantastic actively snowing. And i will return home to the beach. It's crazy ten hours ten hours of the car it's longtime longtime but i'm so glad you're like this is something to do. You might even call it. A long haul amana. Let's just get into the trivia and couldn't make today's trivia about kovic because a suppressing and be we clearly don't know shit about this disease so i'm making the trivia about a different kind of long haulers. That's right the american trucker great big fans. We're gonna play a lightning round. Where i give you a little tidbit of cb radio slang. Gains are the radio that truckers use to communicate especially in the old days. I think they're probably starting to be replaced by internet devices. I could be wrong. But i'm sure this culture so exists i'm gonna give you these slang terms a bunch of them with two choices. Each whoever identifies the most correct slang terms. He's the winner of today's trivia. Are you ready roger that. That's the only one i know right. I won a mud. Duck mud duck. Is that a cb user who keeps talking despite a very weak radio signal or is it a cup of very strong coffee cup of coffee. Yeah doctrine house. Okay jen alley. Go with coffee Should i reveal the correct answer as go okay. Mud duck is a cb user who has weak signal but keeps the ever in on and just create noise. Everybody for coffee now so in a way. we're right. I like that number two a lot lizard lot lizard. Is it a customs enforcement officer who intercepts trucks at truck stop parking lots or a prostitute who primarily works in truck stop. Parking lot is a prostitute. I think i knew that before. You even said i want it to be prostituted correct. It's one point one point for each. I gotta keep score here next. Term job town is job. Town clinton new jersey bore saint louis missouri. I feel like. I need more context or something school clinton new jersey. Why not abbas also in new jersey. I'm gonna. I'm gonna give it. To new hampton go with clinton not diversify your competing. You gotta get the most right answers and you are both right. You both have two points. Here's the next. Cb radio term ten ten. i should have been doing. My turquoise ten was that accent what does that code means. The driver will cease broadcasting but continue to listen on the channel or does it mean. The driver is heading to a restroom break. Restroom breaking ceased broadcasting. The correct answer is cease broadcasting. That's a point for gen genting. Many jen's pulling ahead that's right track three two okay about two more for you. So allie still has a chance to tie it up and and pull ahead full grown bear. What is a full grown bear. Is it a state police trooper. Poor an eighteen wheeler truck eighteen wheeler truck eighteen wheeler. You're both wrong. It is a state trooper. I learned in figuring stuff out that bears are cops. I believe also pigs are cops but there's different versions of bears are are different. Police officers so full. Grown bear is like a state trooper. Don't mess with them. But like a bear cub or air. Those are like local law enforcement or whatever and they're always like oh. I got a full grown bare twenty miles up here so you know slow down her backyard during covid israel all right. Jen is still in the lead. Three two two and this is the final questions so allie can only tie it up. Unfortunately she cannot win but we could result in thai orlando i. What is a pregnant roller skate. Is it an armored bank vehicle. Like the the armored cars carry money or is it a volkswagen beetle. couldn't go with the beetle. i also wanna go with the fetal. But i'm gonna go with the other. Because i just feel like that's maybe i should do. The correct answer is a volkswagen beetle. Dan winter for mackie again. Can you get a horn. Sowed effect in here. Just gonna have cue that up. I'll added in later. Chicken ten four ten ten for roger over a lot lizards new outed. I know that success somewhere in my brain. I feel i. I don't know summer in my brain. I don't know yeah you'll be shocked to know that a lot of trucker slang not that progressive. Yeah yeah all right. Well we're going to take a break and we will be right back to belittle the long hauls of those who hall long but we would like to thank those who are with us for the long haul on our patron at the ten dollars or more. So thank you so so much sincerely. From the bottom of our hearts to chris harrison jerry. Durham jessica fox. Melissa eliot james dosier. Deb deeper pants. Kathy phillips william and matthew scott. We appreciate you we see you. We hope you'll stay with us for even longer. Haul colvin real house harassment from internet's early safe-space. Talk really about tax. Act next for the past. Three weeks has been following me on my daily walks. I'm worried that the owner may have reigned the cat to follow people. rob them. Cats are assholes really are an asshole cove. It led to our guest wake transition. Please welcome to the show. Everyone the creator and the admin of the covid nineteen long haulers facebook group michelle. Welcome michelle thank you for having me. Thanks for being here. We hear you've had a rough couple of months. I said you decided to join us. I feel like it's its own little blessing a gift that i'm even here today. So yes well. We would love to avoid talking about what everybody already knows about. Covert and really focus on the communities. That are kind of helping long haulers cope such as yours. So can you start by telling our listeners. Who long haulers are. Yeah of course so. Everybody knows about covid. Nineteen that is no surprise to anybody. We're very aware of it one. Because i had not heard anything yet. Let start by saying it's not the flu nor is it cost by five g vitamin d. Okay d levels are great before demand so one of Things that have come out of covid that the medical community is just now really starting to embrace an understanding. Some of your listeners might have seen stories. recently is the Long haulers kobe or long. Kobe is what we call it. Which is symptoms that persist for months pasture acute infection. So you're no longer you've gone over your first acute infection. You're no longer contagious. You've survived and yet there's these debilitating symptoms that occur months afterwards That affect every organ in your body and there's no currently no understanding of why they're trying to figure that out and there's currently no treatment to it so we tend to be women. Seventy five percent of us are women and we tend to be younger. We were never hospitalized for ages. Thirty to fifty. Typically although. My daughter was nine when she caught kobe. She's now and she's a long holler as well. So it can affect anybody at any age but not a lot of understanding about the whys of it. We are just now finally happy to have it. Recognize the cdc just last month recognizes as a very real thing before that two people. Just think you were winding. Yeah i mean before that it was it was interesting because we knew we have these symptoms and we knew we weren't well. We had talked a cardia and resting heart rates of over a hundred and forty. Our blood pressure's would swing mic drop. Sixty points within five minutes. Then i ended up in the er and this was two months past my original infection. But we didn't. The medical community really didn't understand it. It wasn't talked about and so we were really dismissed. When i went to the er. I said i'm sure this is related to the covid infection. Because i've just not been right since cova and they're like oh it's dehydration. Let's check your levels. And they checked my levels. Iraq william dehydrated. But we're giving you an iv in we're sending you home and you know peace love. Good luck and It's just kind of been that way. We've had doctors that diagnosed with anxiety. And they want to put you on anti anxiety medication. But you you know. It's not really their fault because they don't know either but in the beginning we were heavily dismissed. Because i got sick in march. So i'm a first waiver and It was just a relief to see that the doctors in the medical community and university groups have finally acknowledged this and are taking it seriously in our developing care clinics for us. 'cause ninety percent of us have not been able to go back to work fulltime. And when you're talking about that thirty to fifty year old demographic those are your carriers and so It's been detrimental to our family finances and they know now. It's such a large problem. They estimate between ten to thirty percent of people who were infected with covid will become long haulers among talking about millions of people getting sick and that percentage group not being able to work. That's going to be a problem for the economy and for medical fields as well. I wish trump had been along holler and wasn't able to work. Oh you know this is bad. And i'm probably gonna get in trouble for saying this but i was kind of crossing my fingers that milan. It was actually a long hauler. Come out for a couple of weeks. We are all in the community. I think she's a long haul or she fits the demographics with nothing just to give some attention. We are just so desperate to have somebody recognized as that's getting funding stuff lines to to be clear for to. Trump has not worked very much since he hasn't heard anything since. Yeah look so yeah. Giant covert in two thousand sixteen. But yeah. I don't know if that's any different from before exactly. It's interesting though because what i've what i think seems to be out. There is that men tend to get covid worse. But i didn't realize that more women are long haulers which is interesting distinction. Yeah that's been my observation as well when men get it. They tend to be the ones that end up in the hospital with severe infections women tend to be the long haulers that just have a really long recovery. So what you're saying is that the women have to work twice as hard for the same position. Dasa stretch. But i try try to keep it like guys talking about companies. You know. I think as chen mentioned we'd love to try to avoid you know talking too much about covert although i know that kinda makes no sense in this context but we'd love to hear. When did you start turning to the internet for help. So when i was sick in martian felt like we had hit passer acute infection and then both my daughter and i started experiencing symptoms about two weeks after are covering these symptoms you know. We had gone the traditional route at made. The doctor's appointments and things like that. My daughter was actually randall. Children's hospital because her kidneys had been impacted by co bid and they didn't have answers and just kind of response that will sometimes viruses take their time so just rest and try to get better and then probably in about two months later after we had both been hospitalized with these post symptoms. I've got to see if there are others experiencing this this is just a weird phenomena because we had been both extremely healthy like my daughter had never even been on an antibiotic and you know up until she coded so i started researching and i found this tiny little group. There was only two hundred people in it and they were talking about these long haul covid symptoms and it was like reading the recipe book for my own symptoms and i just felt. Oh my gosh there are others you know. We were so early on in the infection in the whole covid pandemic that it was. It was hard to get information. So we kinda glommed onto each other and we would share what we're going through and are what's happening at the doctor's offices and how we were being dismissed and we were just feeling so crummy all art weirdo symptoms because there are over eighty different long-haul symptoms that you can experience after that. I was like you know this is a private page which was good so we could share all of our it really weird symptoms that you probably don't wanna hear about any ways. It's like the crazy. Aunt that tells you everything that's going on with her in her. Though sometimes those stories are really good. Though you definitely work. Has they were reaffirming. That we weren't crazy our that our bodies are just wackadoo and so that was awesome but it was all private and i was sitting here thinking as a teacher in an educator. People need to know that there. This is something that can happen to them if they get co because there was this real idea than that you either bought it. And you're fine or you end up hospitalized in then had a chance of dying and there was no in between and what we had found this whole continuum of symptoms and recovery. That happened in between and nobody was talking about it. And nobody knew and these were healthy people in their twenties and thirties yoga teachers and you know marathon runners and it was just amazing to me. So that's when i created the covid nineteen long holler awareness and education page. Because i could make that page Public and so we can start sharing our stories the original community. The two hundred person one was that also on facebook it is yeah and it still continues to be on facebook quickly very quickly. Within about a month they hit five thousand members and then they had to open up a second page that then an has subsequently hit five thousand members and they have a third page now. So how large is your group and any ideas sort of hell largest community as a whole microbe is. I have a little over. Ten thousand followers and a lot of them are long callers themselves and then are few are family members of long haulers that are looking for answers and just wanna share information. You know you talk about six million people being infected if you have just the low end of the the thought that it's ten percent that's a lot of people that could be infected and it's funny you know it. We find people come on here. We are in december. And i'm still getting people that come on and say oh. My gosh. i was so sick in april. I didn't know if it was kobe because we didn't have testing. But i have not been well. I've had all these experiences in all these symptoms. My hair is falling out and these rashes. And all this. And i just now found your group and i. It's amazing because i thought i was going crazy. 'cause the doctors couldn't explain it we. I didn't know what was going on. And just to know that there are others out there. So i think there's a large percentage of the population that probably even know that their long haulers they're just experiencing weird symptoms. And they think something's wrong with our health or it's stress or whatever set in reality there. Long haulers i mean. I have a friend who has a seventeen year old son. That's have has had a fever for over two hundred and fifty days. She's round the course of everything could possibly be under the sun and Can't find anything. And i said you know a chance that he had coveted ch- back when we did and he's along haller because my daughter still runs fevers and we're over two hundred and fifty days aston Acute infection so she's finally getting some treatment and stuff and getting in with a group. That's trying to address the long haul symptoms. And are you finding that medical professionals are also joining the group just to learn more. Yes so that's kind of a funny thing in our community a little bit controversial like in our private groups where we share all our symptoms. The medical community was not initially allowed. They opened up a separate page for them to be able to come in and people could share their symptoms and things like that so that the metal community understood what was going on but that was not as popular as just hanging out with others. That were going through what you were going through. So there's this part of the group that really wants to open our private group up to those medical professionals and then there's another part of the group that doesn't it's an interesting dynamic that give and take but i will say that our group is really good at if somebody wants to upload a survey and put in symptom trackers and things like that they're really good at participating and those things but for whatever reason it's controversial to allow them into our own private group. I think that's interesting right because people probably feel very failed by the medical community. You know telling them that it wasn't covert or that they are that and so now there's probably this it's it. Sounds like maybe people are really hesitant. Tilt them because of that. I don't know if that resonates god is definitely a huge part of it. I think the majority of us. I would say ninety percent of us feel really failed by the medical community and to the point where it felt like gas lighting. Doctors say that you know it's all in your head and you just need to go home. And i don't wanna see you anymore because there's nothing i can do for you. You know when you are when you're you're desperate for answers and you don't know where to turn your doctor right that's who go to when you have your medical priam's in in you want at least for them to say i don't understand it we're still learning about it. It's a novel virus. But i believe you not just didn't happen generally and i don't understand why it's it's a big failing of our medical field and i hope it's a lesson that they learn out of this the medical community like if you don't fit into the box that they learned their just completely unable to think outside of the box absolutely. I mean the majority of us especially the ones early on we went to alternative medicine because we were just not getting any help from traditional medicine in any way shape or form and at least alternative. Medicine said we're going to try stuff. Because i believe you. I don't know if it's gonna work so we're gonna try and we were happy with that. Yeah that's so fascinating because there's a whole whole can of worms there with how that's led to the rise of alternative medicine in both good and bad ways but anyway rutta s something. Have you been able to crowd source some ideas for managing some of these symptoms altogether in this group. Even one medical professionals aren't necessarily helping with that. Yeah it's it's interesting because we often get to what the medical field is starting to figure out. We were there months ago. And it's it's hilarious so we just go da. We could told you that like three months ago But what we have found is a lot of experience kinda like masol activation syndromes so we are seems like we're really sensitive now histamine wise to certain foods and things like that so we adopted like a low histamine diet that has helped a lot of people and then take like a daily antihistamine. And that's help tone down some of the symptoms and then we have lists of supplements that have helped but we do use that echo chamber to be able to tally each other. What's worked well and what hasn't and we know for sure. Pacing is huge with this recovery. Anytime that you overdo or you get over stressed you just slam back down. We call them. Relapses 'cause it's it's the corona coaster that this trajectory of of healing is not like an arc. Right i mean when you typically get sick you think you feel pretty crummy but over time you get better better better day after day. That is not the case with this recovery. It's peaks and valleys. So you think that you're you're you're there you're on your way and then eight months in like eight months tend to be pretty typical for all a lot of us we had like a serious relapse where we all thought we were actually reinfected again because it was so bad. You know it's it's like why. Why eight months in do we have this experience. So just being able to know that those things are coming to has been really helpful and i feel like saved me at least a lot of money and emergency room visits because these are typically things that you like going into the -mergency room i this isn't well and it's like no others. That were a month ahead. And he had the same experience and they got through it in a week. So i don't know if that's good or bad for bringing corona coaster to my attention which is wild tweet. I quick question. Are there members of the community who are long hollers and medical professionals. That can speak to. What's being done you know is. is there that overlap. Absolutely i i would say that. It's probably a professions. That's the highest. Infected group is nurses and doctors. I think the reason why this is even gotten the attention it's gotten in And being able to the medical field able to look at it is because we do have so many doctors and nurses. I mean we have one of the top rated infectious disease experts in the world. He is in england and he got infected in march and he was along holler and he now he's like i've had dengue fever. And you know these other viruses and there has never been a recovery period like this one. He just floored him but he was. You know out there early kinda beating the drums of awareness to get people to understand it and what's interesting about things get infected. They experience the same thing leaders special treatment in their in their field because they were a nurse times. They got misdiagnosed by their doctors or they weren't believed and so on and so forth so they're having a very much the same experience in they're trying they're you know they're they're in the medical field so they try all the things that they know up their sleeve and nothing's working and they're very clear honest about that. You've already answered this a bit. But we'd love to hear any more stories you have around. How the group has held. The members have supported each other both medically and emotionally. Yeah i think that the biggest thing medically it's guests in check right. you know. we don't do anything that's dangerous. We take supplements that are at recommended levels and things like that so we just do shot san approach right you you try a bunch of stuff you follow each other stories you hear what works well for them in the incorporated into yours so that's one aspect of it. The the treatment plans what works for others. And what doesn't another piece of the man is the emotional piece. And that's been huge. Because unless you're really going through this it's it's really hard to understand. And there's been several divorces husbands or wives that have left their spouse because they're eight months in and they're still so tired and they don't have the quality of life that they had before you know five year olds stats say things like i just want my mommy back. That's really hard for people so to have a group that they can come to and say this is what's going on and i'm so tired and i just frustrated. I can't get anywhere with my healing. And i want my life back Having that group to say it's okay one more day. It's sam getting all emotional about eve you've ever had this past known for something at least you're helping others and i think that's where we find our strength like i like to remind people you the story that you go through your career you go through is going to be somebody else's guide in the future race oh the marchers car selves. The first first waivers we are there now and as these people that got six in june and july are popping up and going my symptoms. Oh man i to. This won't go away. And i'm losing my hair. And what worked and things like that. Will we have data for them and we can let them know. It's okay your hair is going to grow back. It's gonna take a few months but your hair is gonna grow back but watch these things. Go get your blood tested and see if you have blood clots because the diamond test is really important in our community to check for those blood. Clots 'cause we had people you know four months on that have had sudden heart attacks than they were young and healthy before then and they had blood clots and those are the stories that we can bring and help others who are just now experiencing this. My mind is being blown apart here as i'm sure audiences too because when you have a medical issue the first rule is do not go on the internet but here what you guys are doing because medicine doesn't know shit about this virus and you. The online community are the only people with knowledge the only way to share donald d. But like you're you're filling this gap in a really powerful important way. That goes it that flies in the face of everything. We typically think about when we think about medicine and internet and it's truly a special. Yeah i really couldn't imagine this journey without these groups. I mean i don't know what that would look like to go to the doctors. Have all these symptoms to not be believed to be isolated. You know that talk about soul-crushing that would definitely be the case. It really is a gift i mean. Sometimes you get this is bad but sometimes you get so frustrated because you'll see new people on and they're you know it's something really superficial in in you're like oh don't worry about that. You know worry about the tax cardia or the blood pressure or that the vertigo that comes with this. That's coming down the way and you're trying not to be cynical. You know like you're supportive but there's a little of of that you've been because yeah because the symptoms can vary so widely and then some people are so upset about these tiny ones. Yeah they can vary so widely and you know there's people facing really big health crisis or they're like i've i've been sick for for twenty days. Will this ever end. And you're just like sitting here at reaching you know going towards three hundred days serious right. So that's a little like shallow human aspect of it but real totally we appreciate that have long. Haulers formed local networks that you know of supporting each other. I don't think so. I think it's much more more global. We have people from australia and england and an east coast and west. Coast are group's so funny that it that that you've become that leader because of the internet group and that's it that's exactly it. It's because you can see what's coming because you see it on a broader scale across the world or with that platform so michelle. We know the media can be a pretty alarmist and click beatty and it seems like the same facts are regurgitated constantly regarding her on a virus so in your opinion what do you think the media gets right about its covid coverage and what seems as a long hauler to be missing from the conversation. I think what they get right is that i think they're good at reporting the numbers of hospitalizations The number of deaths. I think were dramatically. Underestimating the number of infected when you have up to forty percent of people who are as symptomatic. They're not going out there and getting the tests done I don't know what it's like in your state. Our state contract tracing is a joke. Where are you based oregon. Okay yeah in oregon. We have very limited contract contact. Tracing so i think that we don't have a really good idea of how much of the population has cold. It or has had kobe. You know they're they're. They're good at a reporting the symptoms although that's slowing growing to when i was sick and march. Gi issues were even on the list. And that was my first and biggest symptom and now of course it is so all that comes really slowly with time and they are just now wrapping their brains around long haulers in what it means so that some news stories are getting out there. In this nbc. Just did a good story on it but you know here. We are nine months later from when it was in our communities or more and that message is just now getting out there so it's it's not as large as it should be because i really do think people have this false sense of security. I think if you think that your twenty or thirty or forty years old. You're you know you'll risk it because you're not gonna die from it but nobody's talking to you about the very high. Has i think ten to thirty percent is a really high percentage that you could have these symptoms. These debilitating symptoms for many months. So i wish they would do a better job at by showing the continuum of the illness as we wrap up today. Michelle what would you like our listeners. To take away from this more than anything else more than anything. I would love them to get that message that it is not you survive it and all is well or you die that there really is this whole broad spectrum and it can impact your life financially physically your relationships and so just to be aware that this virus is real. This virus has real consequences including for young people and to be conscious of that and do their part to prevent it spreads so wearing those masks social distancing not gathering for the holidays those are all really important pieces. The vaccines are here. They're coming the end is in sight. We're gonna get through this so just do that last big push to be really careful. Get through these last couple of months and we can save a lot of lives and a lot of torture because this is torture. We've had people that have had cancer and they said that this is a way worse journey in cancer. I cannot underscore how horrible it is to be a long holler and to remind them that we still don't have any idea of when it will end or how to treat it so this may be your life if you're not careful. How can we direct long haulers to your group so on facebook is covid. Nineteen long haulers awareness and education. They should be able to google. That it's at cova recovery stories. Thank you for taking the time to speak with us today and share information that we really were not aware of so. We appreciate you being here. Yeah thank you for giving us a platform to get more information and education out. There really appreciate it. It's really incredible. How this group is at the forefront of sort of understanding. Well i don't know other research that's being done and everything obviously like. Yeah the people in this community could be used to like tests these kinds of symptoms. It's like such. it's so amazing that they've come together as a community. It's like such a wealth of knowledge for us really about what it's like. Yeah that research is being done. It's not accessible to people. And so then you have primary sources who are saying. Hey here's what's up yeah It's nice because it goes back to kind of the roots of this podcast. Which is when the internet was kind of kinder place. i think Yeah although i guess. The internet has always had both sides of that coin earned our fortune episode. Yeah but it's it's really nice that they have that resource and i hope that our listeners who are perhaps long haulers will be able to go join that group and figure out how to manage their symptoms and Yeah we don't get covid. That's my big takeaway. The in addition to michelle's amazing story and sharing the stories of others. In this group the the big frigging mind-blowing takeaway is like. It's so much worse than you think it's so bad. Covert is so fucking bad. Three hundred thousand people dead in our country alone but like so. Many people are a symptomatic so many people are spreading without knowing and affecting people for the rest of their lives or what we currently understand to be a very long time medically at. It's just reaffirming this like no we. We have to be super safe no matter what even if you think grandma does didn't get it or doesn't have it or you think you could do holidays not do just you should not do that. You should just be home if you can just see that. It's such a wide spectrum where some people are completely asymptomatic. People die and some people have are going on nine months now of unexplainable symptoms. I mean that unexplainable yes. It's from covert that it's affecting like i didn't know about hair loss and i'm pretty narcissistic about my hair. You guys kids with fevers for months and now we got it we. We have to do better as a as a society to protect each other with my big scary anxious. Take away from this day. Yeah yeah i just think covid. I mean as we all know has exposed the flaws of america. That were already there but like our society has turned to individualistic. I mean the. there's so many issues. we can't even go down that wormhole but Yeah it's problems so everybody stay safe. Don't go to those covid parties charter return real advertised trying to catch it or whatever. Yeah do that. Yeah yeah. Some people yeah fascinating. Some people still don't even think it's real well and also if you are a symptomatic. I think it's like a natural human thing to not fully register how it affects people differently. What's the big deal. Even though you know some people could die you would never think that somebody for months could have a fever so you know just yeah the financial repercussions and everything that i can't imagine how infuriating it is to go to the doctor and have them gaslight you i i know from my own comparatively minor experience with insomnia. How that made me want minor. That's a debate. I wanted to murder people. So we don't let you have x. You have said that it talked about the insomnia on the show and with us and unfortunately medicine does not know very much about it. It's such a treat it effectively especially in your case. We clearly don't know very much about covid and haven't for months so just fucking say we don't know really is mueller. Ptsd from my insomnia hours. Like yep yep gas let. They told me i was crazy. They told me it was in my head. They told me it was something else. They told me they told me that. You know rather than just saying like we really don't understand it. Yeah it's okay to not know something if your doctor you have an just have you know. What's what's that word compassion. I don't know yeah. I still like shared with listeners. Who are interested like how. I've hopefully solved it but funny thing is it was through facebook. Actually i did know that you right. Yeah yeah. I don't know if we should go into it now but Yeah i really short version. Is i posted on facebook. When when i was losing my mind like. Hey i'm looking for weird fucking hacks like if you comments melatonin or camomile tea. I will come after you in the night. Because i will be really unorthodox ideas and this girl reached out who hadn't spoken to in like twenty years facebook messenger and said my insomnia sounded exactly like yours would fall asleep right away. Wake up four hours later. Otherwise fill find. Didn't learn other issues in my life. And you know doctors told me i was crazy and i tried meditation. Hypnosis ambient sound like she had tried like fucking everything and then. She told me what she was doing. Which is what. I've been doing for eight months and i'm sleeping. I guess i should tell people. It's not really like accepted yet as a treatment. But there's a lot of research that Basically if your severe insomniac if there's a chemical imbalance in your brain which makes sense to me. Because i felt like there was something wrong in my brain like it. Just didn't make sense that i would be dreaming and then what yes plenty problems in my brain but that's also what makes me sell delightful so basically i'm on like extremely low dose of two different antidepressants Because they work on my serotonin an anti histamine receptors and there's been studies that they actually like rewire your sleep cycle. And so now. I spend more time in ram and i have like really crazy long dreams. So i've been sleeping for like eight or nine months now. Which is incredible. I still like fear that it's going to stop at any moment. And then the other thing. That's crazy as that. I started literally me taking these drugs coincides with week one of quarantine. So i also like just like weird thing right like in this weird way quarantines been okay for me because i've been sleeping and like i sort of wonder how i would be coping otherwise like i don't i don't know it's yeah but the triumph. Though that is. I mean i knew you were doing better. But i didn't know the full story it's been. It's been so incredible. I can't even articulate it. Like i was really i think. Let longtime listeners. Now like i was really losing my mind like i was losing my shit and yet no. It's been incredible so if you also are not sleeping and have tried everything. Get at me. I'm at ali. golden. I met june. Bugger nba you can email us to g. One podcast at dot com. You can also text us or leave us a voicemail. Please do that. Phone number is expired. Four that number three percents and please join our discord server. Discord dot org slash to g. One p. there are a lot of listeners. there sometimes gas. We're there so just come. 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156 4chan: The Birthplace of All Memes

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156 4chan: The Birthplace of All Memes

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Learn more about all the newest teams features at microsoft dot com slash teams podcast orange where no girl has gone rape or chad arguably best shan on entire internet them. Walk up alison. Hello everybody. i'm jen i'm ali. Welcome to girls. One podcast a. We're so happy that you're here. Ali and i are performers. We had a live. Comedy show called blogs. Were used the internet as our script. It was a lot of fun than we had a web series called two girls one show which you can find on who we met. People buying the postal unscripted adventures. And now we have this year. Podcast with daily dot and into one pot. Guests were interviewing people behind internet communities in phenomenon that we find really interesting. We're also here with our producer matt. Hello matt hello hello. So we're looking at a behemoth today. Could we call it that a behemoth. I don't know we can't old school internet. we want. Interestingly i don't think any of us know too much well. We don't have personal experience on this platform molly. None eleven facebook dot com. My wish. I never knew what he's talking about i. I don't need to know like my middle school teachers political views. I'm just over. So what are we looking at today. Ali i really wanted to have a clever thing here. One two three four chan. chai's off. Yeah we're looking at four chan which is a is a wormhole that we haven't dove into previously. I hear it's fairly pornographic so it is on brand. Yeah but we're going to talk to an avid user and figure out what it's all about it's definitely got a bad reputation and we're gonna see how much that is true or false which are kind of know what you're maybe saying. But what do you mean by bad rep. Well i mean i think stereotypically it is known as a place where there's a lot of neo-nazis like lot of hate speech shila all right now. I think that's some of the mainstream connections. But i also was reading that. There's been incidences of hacking good like dark net. Diaries episode where people have hacked into scientology databases. or whatever. so. I think it's just like it's kind of a wild west of the internet from what i know but i really don't know much about four chan even though it is such a behemoth as you mentioned what we also know it's anonymous. That's one thing. I know about it but guys. That's it oh peppy the frog by-pass cutback okay. But before we get into our interview. I believe jennifer has some news for us. You know my news but everybody else i moved. I moved in with our number one fan. Our podcasts purist adult baby adam maybe a really people move all of the time but guys i just have to say i had not moving up. Fifteen years was fourteen years. Maybe yeah terrible so good that you have but it must have been awful for you to have to do it. And i'm the kind of person who likes to look through all of my stuff and like think about it for a while. And i was very lucky actually and that i had a grace period of a few months where we knew this was happening and we actually kind of moved in two parts. We got stuff in storage few months ago and then we're deciding what we're we were gonna live exactly in the. We did the rest of the stuff anyway. I had time to go through fifteen years of stuff. And it's pretty extreme like i. I'm not a hoarder. But you know elliott had like clippings from our shows and you know. I kept those. I have like a memory box. I'm trying to keep things in an organized way. Now also by the way i'm gonna mel us some some things so get ready just off on you for a lot of journals journals. Are the journal entries. I'm not kidding. I had twenty journals. Twenty twenty five. Maybe and they started from like my first year of college up until now so so like twenty years span or something like that but Really yeah crazy. Great to have actually gave those to my mother. I was like mom. Can you hold onto these city urban. That's something you wanna contact is later. Yeah a house. we'll see. yeah but it's great. I'm so happy to be here and your address is moving along just temporarily moving more aware. Should i go. I think that i should work from another country for like four to six weeks because why not the everywheres better than the us right now. We've talked about this in a previous episode that you'd actually think about moving somewhere permanently. Okay go for like four to six weeks and work from. I don't know i was thinking. I was thinking taiwan. Because they know cases you quarantine for fourteen days and then you live your best life. Hurry allowed would be really problematic. I'm not sure what. I was doing research but there is a new york times article that lists all the places that americans are allowed to choose from that list. If i go somewhere. Latin america purdy much. I think the same time zone. You gotta make sure the internet's okay. Though i know. I know because i would plan to just work from there for like four to six weeks hang out. You know because you can't live at here. This making me think of our listener and his name is escaping me at the moment. But who's calling around the world. Where our should. I go good. And i hate to be An elitist american. But i'm just going to say a wanna go somewhere where i could potentially live like a queen for a month louis. Where in the world is lewis. And where should. I live for four to six weeks. Check in to make proof of life call in to tell us to me really sad if he doesn't bet phone number reports expire four eight. That number again. Three four seven seven six wait laurel. We gotta get the trivia. 'cause we're gonna have a lot to talk about before that's right. This one's a fun. One as we discuss a little bit for chance known for pulling off some crazy. Stunts for the lulls. You know having fun with a lot of a public public installations of vigilante justice and they particularly love online polls when companies are like vote for your favorite whatever. What should happen here. If four chan gets wind of that they're going to mobilize thousands and thousands of joke votes to get get something going so in two thousand twelve. This happened which of these online polls fortune manipulate for the wells in twenty twelve. I have three options. One of them is factually correct. Two of them. I made up here. We go. They voted to send taylor swift to perform a free concert at a school for deaf children in two thousand twelve. Be they voted. For steve buscemi as the people's choice for people magazine's sexiest man alive in two thousand twelve with whiches. That's just factually correct. I don't see the problem that see. They voted for rick. Ashley's never gonna give you up as invest new song of two thousand twelve in grammy awards online poll despite the song being recorded and released in nineteen eighty-seven which of these is true. I don't know k. That's that's not trivial works. That's how it goes. It's not true which is true is true. Yeah i hit go. Can i go okay. Hey taylor swift chain goes with taylor gonna go with c. rick ghastly Of gen alley. What's your name you. yeah you sound saying. I can't tell the difference. Because yeah i think that they're really interbike rolling right so okay i'm gonna see. We will find out the correct poll manipulation from the wild world of fortune. After this commercial break. I would never prank. The following people in a horrible gone wrong. We would never do that to you. Chris harrison jerry duran or jessica fox. Melissa eliot james dosier. we've never thank. 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Bees flying around my guarded stealing the pollen or nectar from flowers. Then the beasts go back to my neighbor and creates honey my neighbor harvest the honey and sales and pepper place market for profit. I have never received so much as on jar of honey in everyday my neighbor speech trespass and stale my flowers all tongue. One sweat hours a child. So i know how dangerous base get bay. The way this is equivalent to a person's dog coming into my yard to steal balls or tools and give odor who then sells it for profit. Legal grand to soup. What types of things should. I begin documenting in order to prepare for a legal battle. What would be a fair settlement amount. If my neighbor doesn't take this to court thanks for the help of my besties. ian is a beekeeper. And i hope you sending me some honey soon with the comment send me that to my address is one for seven seven gi. I look. i know i'm biased. Because she bought advertising space on our podcast. But as i heard the ad again she has a point. I mean she's not wrong philosophically. I agree to sell the honey. It's more it's an it's an ethical. Quandary guys yeah. I think that the bees should be sued. Yes maybe we should kill. The bees for stealing penalty is not death amount. I think a hefty fine kill the honeybees. And i'm just getting honeybees very endangered. So if you're an urban beekeeper you can tweet at me at allie gold. I'll tell you. I think that's hot and i want show now. You know what to put in your tender bio bio god. Yeah that's still happening all right. let's get to. It's i have the trivia answer. What poll did four chan completely obliterate in two thousand twelve. John you went with taylor swift got to perform for a school for deaf children. I think it might be that one. But again i wanted to diversify. No-one chose e. steve buscemi says people magazine's sexiest man alive. Twenty twelve or see genuine. With rick. ashley is never gonna give you up. Became the people's choice for words. As we know the bush ame- one is just too real so good alley trophy. The correct answer is a s. What is right. And what does she win. Thank you you win. A free concert from taylor swift or so my god. She partnered with a textbook rental company for a back to school event. you know. These are two typical corporate sponsorships. The prize of course was that The school with the most votes would get a private concert with taylor swift any. Us school could win and win. Four chan got ahold of this. They chose the horace mann school for the deaf and hard of hearing very well respected and old school in boston. The boston area they. They're voting Regaining outstripped every other competitor. They won by a mile so because of the vote manipulation and the obvious sensitivity issues swift did not end up performing there however she did donate ten thousand dollars to the school and when she did four of the other event sponsors including the textbook company. Papa john's pizza covergirl and american greetings each donated ten thousand dollars and on top of that Vh1's save music also donated an additional ten thousand dollars worth of musical instruments to the school and taylor swift provided free tickets for all the students for any any time. She was in the boston area to perform at a at a bigger venue. They could come to see the concert for free so literally the school because of four chan got fifty grand in donations The school's principal told the guardian quote. Are we the winner absolutely and quote. Wow that's an incredible story. Well-done fortune. So i imagine there's a lot more there are other things out there that we're going to hear about in our interview today that you know. I think we'll be illuminating for us. So let's get into it. Everybody were really excited to have with us Our guest today brendan. Please welcome to the show. He is an active and passionate user of four chance. Twenty twelve welcome. Brendan venture having me. So as massive as chan is you know it is a big blind spot for us here at two girls one podcast. So we're really happy to get to talk to you. You know you know that. Love's read it. i love instagram alikes tiktok. We don't really know anything about for jet so we're going to start with some more sort of introductory questions than we want to definitely talk about the birthplace of means on this platform. So what is for chan. How would you describe it and you know. Is that different. Do you think than how like the mainstream media would describe it. Or i guess first of all how would you describe it. It's a loaded question because of how wide for san stretches like there's a what we call boards. There's a board for everything you know so you can definitely find your niche. Their buds overall. I find it as a next of free speech on the internet. Because you can say whatever you want and it doesn't mean you won't be judged for it. You will mercilessly but you can still say whatever you want to save their. You're free to do that. And if there's always someone might click with their. And i think the the anonymity that provides is a huge. Because you're anonymous you can honestly say whatever you want. Some people use that to hide it to hide. Know they are say horrible things but others just says opportunity to say something that might be nothing wrong with the might get them judged for so i was just going to follow up on what chen said. Which is you know. I know that there's a difference between the way it's described in a hate to use the term mainstream media but there's a different way that it's described the mainstream media is way users feel about it. So how do you think. The mainstream media generally portrays fortune. And where do you think they got it wrong or right. Oh i know how they are trade because the mostly sierras like a place for nazis end extremists and stuff like that together and we it is. But that's the point. It's a place for anyone to gather and unique. You can't look just parts of the whole you need to see the entire thing for what biz with Anonymity like this yes. You're going to get some bad people but the entire community is predominantly. Just people doing their own thing you know and yes it is. It is more or less right-leaning but most of these people don't care about politics. When there is the politically incorrect board for reasons that is where politics is centralized the rest of the space is made for whatever age designated for the big thing that is miss classified is. It's not a haven for like hackers and criminals in pirates. No it's mostly just geeks who can't find an saying this with the most love i can because i was one of those people. It's geeks who can't find friends in the real world who Turned to this internet culture. Where for the first time they find people like them the find people who are also passionate about video gaming about comic books but whatever makes them outcasts in society and just i hate saying it makes me sound like the joker but it it's a haven for them to come to find like minded people to actually make pseudo friends you know Well with that in mind. How you've been on for chances. Twenty twelve how you come to find it while it's a bit of a crazy story on my part i was browsing and at every so often i'd see a meme vet ref. The has this four leaf clover on a tour that references vicenza and fortune isn't the only challenge to a gen three gem. There is a lot of for china's the most popular one while another fortune and immigrated by this. What i thought was extremely archaic old looking website. Maybe it's out of use or something and it wasn't. It was laid like an old style on bulletin board and these links linked to some other interest groups just like a more like sub reddit spots. Nothing unfortunate is permanent. You post something within a week or a month or year depending on how active the border posting it is. It's gone and you don't get it back on someone's screen shot at it and i started doing those like these video games. The boards and like the photography boards and. I didn't get into the w once. Because back. Then i was scared of things As if wwl was very was a very sheltered child the very idea of seeing porn made like no way i will never click those links Did but but that that happens later. Everything you want there. There was like these react. You can get reaction gave you get anything and then on one. Faithful they decided. Let's go see what be is all about because everybody always reference to be. That's the random board. So i hopped on and it was. It was a lot better than it is. Now like now if you gonna be. It's mostly porn in politics. Unfortunately but you still get one of those golden threads. One of these things was the fields bar. And it's kind of his theme threat me It's not going to say it's role playing but it's something of one person serves as the Barred center and other people come and tell them their problems where bothering them that day and then he responds with Note some good advice or maybe just a zone to try and you know better on everybody interacts with other and is usually done the salad when someone when you you're thinking okay. Give me a scotch or give me whatever your drink of choices and tell your story you know. It's a bit childish. But i found that. I was bullied mercilessly. When i was young. That wasn't evident. Uh told them. Hey so it's been all day and the bought supports mike. Something that a desperately gets from people my peers. That are my people saying. Yeah but sucks. It will get better. Just hold on to keep on fighting fuck. Those people is. This is cool. This is nice people on ben. The you'll have you lose threads which will be boxing. The funniest thing that they can find trying to make you laugh and if you laugh you lose as the name implies. It's the breakers or did they try not to laugh challenge and it's better in my opinion if someone for instance our listener or maybe our hosts have never been on four chan when they enter kind of. What does it look like it. Looks like a nineteen like late nineties. Early two thousands website because it hasn't really changed in all the years that it's been since it's been created the Broken up into categories japanese culture video games interests creative other miscellaneous end adults. Don't ask me for the difference between other miscellaneous i don't know are just different categories and in among each of these. There's like you get the list of or related to that. And it's just simple text and be a blow that there's a grouping of the most popular threads on at the moment from what i understand because i've never seen a non safer work post in the popular one the only pull from the safer work threat to see like in what in what board it's posted in what the threat is about my right now. I am unfortunate right now right now the on the popular threads there are there. Is a literature thread. This a green texts. We'll get to that in a second. But it's greens x. Story about something guy finding ultimate finding out his gay and then it cuts off. There's something in television and film a character says As american as apple pie bed apple pies british. There's just the most interactive threats our pious british. This is blowing my mind. According to this guy all right after do this person on the internet. Haven't seen the british baking show. So what is the green taxed okay. Green text is a way for you to convey yourself if you put a greater than symbol in front of whatever tissue typing into a display green. And so it's very simple green text and it's usually four when you something down or renew. Tell a story. This is put into the green because character says as simple as apple. Pie apple pies british. It's very simplified instead of telling the joke all the way it's just you know yeah mostly green tech's is used for when you tell a story and it's usually from your like you'd stuck a bit of a the Traditionally stereotype but the green tech starts with the line. Be me signify. Im e this story is told from my perspective and then the second is usually some context as to wear on when you were when the story takes place so common for Be me summer of twenty twelve and conic things in green agotic means that originated from green. Tech's like everybody walked the dinosaur safeway. You tell a long story and it ends with the lines. Open the door. And it's an old song. Differences rushing to. The hospital opened the door. Get on the floor. Everyone do the dinosaur. It's a way to tell people they've got you just waste their time reading this entire story and if the end is completely unsatisfied. Right right right now i get it and i know that song. I loved it as a small child at the swimming pool in summertime. Cool so anything else. We should know just about like the general experience when you get in and what. It looks like what people are doing. Their that. sort of thing It can be intimidating because most of us are used. Gino sleek new modern websites. You know not just being greeted with a wall of text with some images scattered throughout throughout but the thing need to remember is stay calm and look for a threat that you think you'll enjoy like hey. This is something that. I want to read more about that. I can even be part of the discussion for pop. Leave your apply read but other people said because it is mostly a discussion but for you know so i know you mentioned some of the board so far like be the random board but what are the other most popular boards on four chan limit bias in this. But it's a be end. Poll are at of course gif. Those are the three big ones now. Gift is one gonna touch on quickly. That's the one where you post born. There's a lot of porn ones but gif is the one reposted the video. That's that's little square right. Give his all porn. It's predominant use is not safe for work video posts. The newest threat on there right now is a rim job threat. Okay yeah you better hurry. These threats usually own a day or two. Great poll is politically incorrect. Is that right yeah. That's where you talk about politics or any politically any subjects. That could be politically charged. So you had mentioned free speech earlier. Sort of like a guiding principle of four chan. We'd love to hear anything more about that. And or what what. What are some other guiding principles that rule the site. There's free speech you can say whatever you want and you will be moved for no matter what you're being as you will be is that good. Is that like character building. What's is because you should not get offended. You should fight back because elon. Fortunately the only things that exist is your words so you need to be able to dish it out just as well as you can take it. If someone calls you dumbest you need to be able to throw something back at them. Do defend yourself but it just like back on the school yard. You know if someone if someone insults you you need to insult back. There is no way to go to go to violence here. So you need to use your words to make your points into defending yourself if name there are no profiles no profile pictures and no user names on four chan. So you post something. You're mocked and i fight back as you said and i understand that that's a threaded conversation but then if you post again somewhere else on the board or or another thread. Do people understand who is posting what. Hey that's the guy who posted that other shit and then they come or is it like every new conversation is new in polio gates You get an id that marks you and this is something because i don't post a lot on polls so i'm not hundred percent. This works cross thread. But i know in one threat. You can identify if it's the same guy posting but that's only on poland butts on other ones you know you can't you you don't you won't know you can identify. It's the same person within aboard but not from board to board. If it's the same person. I am british shirts on poets. Only threat thread. Okay you can see if it's the same person and there's no way to tell In other words you can tell. I'm ninety percent. Sure for trans. Seems like a combative Challenging place to do converse but it's different from twitter of like you say something on twitter. And some gets in your your. You'll get harassed for weeks and months because people knew no it's you and they screen shotted the tweet and they went back for this. It's like you have that conversation in the and then and essentially it it vanishes or or move to another place. It's sanada it's nothing is permanent. One of the and it's it's really crazy thing but there are rules of the internet that is completely idiotic but one of those rules are girls on the internet and that does not mean women. Don't use the internet and relating Second means at any societal advantage that you might have gotten might have gone from being a woman or being a man or being whatever. You don't get that unfortunate so you'll see if this happens. Sometimes a better woman tries to make the argument of as a women. Or i went to. I went to all or whatever argument that they may that is supported by the of. Hey i m a women you know. Give me things. And i'm not saying that all women are like that but i've seen it happen amid almost certainly dfo and that is not an honest request for actual newton's it is a way to say. Hey the only thing that you have to offer here trying to argument for women is your news. So i if you want to have any basis roy arguments of as a women then post that otherwise make a proper good argument and the same thing will happen for as men no. You're not a menu a wall of texts on my screen. Not who you are. It doesn't matter you need to make a good argument or you need to say something. That's not a complete mastery. But don't you think well i guess it would depend on the context of the arguments but i would think that people's perspective and where they're coming from is a valuable reasonable argument. There is definitely context. You're that i can provide because From thing to thing but if it's just hey as women. I'm offended no you can say. Hey i feel like this is offensive towards women for these reasons but if you just post a butthurt as women were as a man. Or as as i am offended or i don't agree with this then then you contribute nothing. You did nothing to help that thread or edge that conversation so so it sounds like it's not about saying i'm a woman it's about saying the argument afterwards right because just saying i'm a woman i'm offended isn't an argument but saying this is offensive because the then it becomes an argument. Yeah it's a way to force everyone who used any form of status or whatever detroit going to get ahead in life. It's forced them to sit down. Think up just say like hey in. My daddy owns microsoft. I can to what i want now. You need to sit down and you need to make a good point to think for yourself. Because i think a lot of people on the internet. Don't really get offended. Just they just think they should get offended and then they get all up in arms about something or other. And i don't think that's healthy and do you find that if someone someone says you know. I'm i think this is offensive to women. Because of xyz to feel the people are receptive or do you think or is it just to get the fuck out mocked just less potato everything will get mocked. Everything will get criticized. You know You can put you. i have seen it. There was a pro-trump inappropriate on third Threat right next both had Almost exactly equal amounts of support in hate thrown at it. Because i mean like me. I don't go because first of all i'm not an american so i have no interest in american politics but i go on there and a lot of people go on there to Likely mess with people in a just. Just just cedars of light teasing you know. And i won't fly. I've done that my share of times. No go on. Go on to forward janina. Just go when a little bit of heaven because it's an answer to everything flies and other most people are expected to do bet. It's something that you should not at all in the slightest. Take seriously because if you do. You're going to have a bedtime. So just momentarily. Let's talk about another thing. The fortune is very much for think jenner. But it's been called the birthplace of memes so's wondering if you also have any reflections on that i can talk with the sense of very very long time ago with a means. Were still archaic thing in the niche Sub as mainstream as today with like Screenshots video games or stuff like that like star foxing barrel roll or be or be mistranslated. All your base are belong to us and those means were found posted on image forbes to start with end four china's one of the last surviving popular image will very popular image. Were still a ton out there. We know the breakage faces primarily started there in the at least popular that's hardward popularization of rage faces and the troll face. Meme on rick rolling. Which was you know. It's a bit more of a huge trend. But you trying to bait someone into cooking that link and he was was doing straight from the boys club comic strip and turning to fortunate us. Because it's was Sad frog let's use him as a reaction image. And that's where we images star you because along with your posts. You can post image to books that image to help convey the tone of your message Supposed to be something fun me you poke a troll face me. If it's supposed to be no sad. He boasts said pippi. You can follow this shame. Fortune creates some meme and get spread onto the they bring media corrected me instagram. The mean gets running to the ground. And you know i it. Changes immensely starts changing shape. You know you've seen means evolve. It mostly starts from fortune. Dutch guys miss when the internet was as rick rolling like that was like a happier more peaceful time. Like i really could. Rick me i would be just really filled with sort of like a warm nostalgia feeling and you gentlemen now. We don't generally like nostalgia. But i think in this case i'd be but but i say fortune as a it's a. It's a complicated beast. But it hearkens back to that older era of like text and image and then ha response. Here's the crying face. Image that i feel but it's a comic that was taken out of context like is that is the internet of your and now it is all slick instagram stories in sponsored ads. And that's not the internet. We grew up with the facebook of occasion and youtube. Advocation of the internet and Yeah i it. No so you talk you know. We talked before about free speech and so also in terms like guiding principles. It sounds like like everything is fair game. You can mock like mockery. Seems like it's part of the backbone of this but is that true. I wanted to have it exactly. I have but a lot of emphasis on that. But it's because i'm as pressuring someone telling someone who doesn't know anything about four about the site and you need to be ready for when that comes to away a lot of threats. There are a lot of wholesome. Things like into relate back to the green There was a guy who's Said that his father died and he went to a pizza place that his father used to work at and he beats of got a free pizza there and listened to stories from the owner about his dad and he boasted a picture of a smiling peppy. You know i play with a nice melons facing someone is you. Have that look on your face that you have that. Look on your face. Then he said yes me you have that same look nowadays guests and just. I'm happy for you. You know there's a lot of these things that are just nice wholesome Things of just don't make sense at all because we need is the is. There is a random threat for reason random board. It's just whatever you want to post you post. If it's going to be funny it's going to be funny if it's going to be no wholesome it's going to be ultimate if it's going to drop the n. Word thin that's how it is that something that people need to know it happens on the site and buchanan played issue. Otherwise you're just going to again. Have a bad time. So when something like the n. Word has dropped like are. Do people jump independently to combat. That do you know what i mean like. It does everything sort of like is contested. Like that if somebody said that it it would part of the culture late jump in and be like no not contesting it and saying. Hey you can say that. They'll say something back like the if if they if they assume. This is on paul. Because paul can see someone's flag if they turn it on where they're from or they can even their own flag for whatever reason they want to say that the see an asian than i'm using this as an example of a major preface. This now any opinions that be and the fourth gen hones does not necessarily reflect my opinions or the pinions opinions of this podcast. I thank you on me or on anyone here as the fuck out. You know what i mean. That is our policy. Yeah just to get back to think that chinese person chain or something like that you know they throw it back at you as i liked the if need be or you just ignore it if you see a threat of saying. Hey no black people allowed you ignorance. If that's part of skip over because there are more threads that are more things were you can find the people that you wanna talk to in such right. But is it problematic to have places on the internet flourishing. Where they say no black people allowed i would rather and also at rather have their than have it here in the real world because there they can have their groups Predation and i feel like it's it's an outlet for people who have been like the yeliz things on the internet and they don't y'all them in real life they cause riots were burned down buildings in real life. Okay that's a whole different can of worms. I'm talking about the fact that there have been white. Supremacist in person rallies. In america during trump's rain so my question is you know if you're arguing that it's nice for them to have a space online rather than in the real world but doesn't it bleed from online into the real world. Imagine this as a. Because that's how i honestly think it works as a tub where you can fill no edge draining at a certain rate. And there's a tap gushing water into it at a slightly higher rate right abed tub and that drain catches a lot of it. That tub in that drain is fortune and is the internet and these these spaces where these people can gather now. We can directed that Tap that's pouring over hate straight into the real world instead of just doing the leaks that the drain can handle. But we don't because if people come over here and they post. Hey i hate this person or these people. It's a way for them to vent. It's like video games. I ever thought video games caused violence. That has been proven false and quite the contrary has been proven multiple times. Video games are pathetic. And they lead to a release in Shoot people in video games. You can frustration out. I agree with you. But i think the difference there is that video games are purely fake whereas someone venting their hatred about a certain group online is commenting on very real world issues. And i don't feel like it's okay that you can do it. You know i. I don't think it's okay to go and post hates. No don't do it. But i would rather have a post this on this online board than put posters up in the real world because here you can ignore it. I can see a threat. I don't agree with. I can scroll past But influences influence. You mentioned to us that you've been using the site sincere young and so i'm imagining especially younger or more susceptible People using the site and scrolling through threads and seeing the seeing hate speech and yes the four of us can ignore things if the culture of four chan is to ignore. then that's a very. That's a fascinating cultural thing about the community. And i think it's it's very positive but a less informed slash younger slash more susceptible slash radicalize. -able person will still see it and they may not have the faculties to ignore an idea. I think what alleys getting at is like. We're having a real reckoning on the internet because we all think. Free speech is very important and crucial to the internet's success. Survival into an and human rights around the world is not just a us thing but at the same time you can't yell fire in a crowded theater and you you. You can't say certain things about certain groups in public discourse on television in the town square and whatever and so and you can no longer do it on twitter and facebook and so it's an interesting out liar and everything you're saying makes a lot of sense and the culture is the culture of four china's dealing with but it won't catch every scenario and people can still be damaged by it hurt by and maybe the bigger question is should we care about those people on four chan. I'm i live by simple philosophy. I have the right to say whatever i want. And you have the right to judge me for it but you don't have the right to tell me not to say it and understand twitter facebook close or companies. They have every right to regulate what i said. On their platform or chen is company. It has every rights regulates what it said on the on their platform and guest. They do ban certain things like when that abysmal movie cuties came out for chen. Banned all conversation of it because fortune in fortune hates pedophile. 's much more than i think the. Us government does judging by the judging by the whole jeffrey epstein thing a lot more than most people do in all honesty and that say no lot like you don't mess with kids and you don't mess with animals bets golden rules. Can you say more about that and like Into jeffrey epstein like cow. What house four chan. What were they saying about it. I mean fortune was one of the front. They a fortune. Business birth va. Jeffrey didn't kill himself mean. Because i think it's common knowledge that at the very least the circumstances of his death it's highly suspicious to say the least and they. They forced this mean into into circulation that caused awareness that make people realize. Hey this maybe something that we should look into them. I don't mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist because usually i'm not but any sensible person needs has to admit that is something is fishy with jeffrey epstein case and the speed at which mainstream media just dropped it which is very scary unfortunately was on the front lines with the saying no to write something when something here is off and what about animals. You mentioned that. There's a quick story. I told this there's a kid on youtube. Who made a video of him abusing his cats and based on everything else and when they found this get reported him to the sheriff and they were arrested for animal abuse in unfortunate. I guess there would be a bad people at ford leans towards the greater good because it takes a honest the good person to put that much work in to save a child or an animal who is being hurt. I would love to hear about more ways. So you just mentioned like people mobilizing to get something done in the real world What are some other examples of that where fortune has like blood over until like something that actually happened in the world okay. Timeframe massive meme shiloh buff in two thousand seventeen decided he was going to launch this great campaign. He will not divide us and it was opposed to run all through trump's presidency and was this art installation protesting trump and making sure that people know that trump will not divide us so of course for jennings tickets to work on ruining it because you know they basically got to president trump elected in the first place with all the means in such and they were damned if their candidate was gonna go down so the first installation was in new york new york and it started early in the year or late twenty sixteen and it was a live. Live cam feet. That was supposed to run all through trump's presidency. Where people could go stanton chance the mantra you will not divide us and fortune found out where the scammer was started. Trolling antena shouting their own. Things into the cameron on messing with people actually went to a thing just having fun so Shut to take it down. But he started up a second one. And i think newark. No one was albuquerque. It was albuquerque. He started the new one with the exact same idea and again. It's they messed with it. You know they spray. I think the Spray painted the camera so people can't see stream so then shy decided. Okay they they want were. I'll give them war so he went and wasted a flag with the words. He will not divide us in a random location. The only thing visible on the stream was the flag and the sky behind it. That was it so they thought they had fortune. Beat no no no no you should never. I'm quoting something. And i cannot remember where i heard this for the first time. But it's a beautiful summation of fortune. You can never underestimate the power of fully weaponized autism so they got to work right. The light apollo it. Can you pause this for a second. What what do you mean by that. I mean it's it's it's a bit of a trend that that if you're going fortune your you're mentally disabled. There's something because only speak like the culture is a bit aggressive and there ended lanes to People a lot of people do have mental illnesses like are somewhere on the spectrum but like self admittedly is their typical of autism. Do have tics and obsessive behavior. You know it's like one of the signs so this obsessive behavior is earned them. This kinda thing so you were telling us about. The flag being waved and what was happening with shiloh buff so this flag has the absolute gold to exist know so they make a plan they decided. Okay we need to think of something. So i went down to one half of the planet's because it was daylight so okay we know somewhere with what most like the on the continental united states because trial is a united states citizen. So then they track the light. See how it gets darker. And they part okay. It somewhere within the eastern third of the united states right at the same time. People says keep someone so. Hey that's a plane that flew flew through the frame so they go in an wise every single flight. There's a website that shows every single flight in the air and they wait for a second one and the second one basic where the two planes cross at that angle and they start narrowing it down. Meanwhile nightfall use the stars and constellations in how they look in the rotation to narrow it down even farther the year frogs knowing. Hey this needs to be this feige summer in lands or marshlands or some kind of swamp maybe narrowing it down even further the plane team pops back in. Hey we predict to moore paints are going to fly over within moments and they do. They have their location. One guy goes and gets in his truck and he starts to driving near where they think it hasn't honking his horn. Be putting the livestream. Listen for that or the hewitt and it was midday when they found this fly when they found the flag so they wait until nightfall. They rushed the flag. Take it down and replace it with a manga hat. And a t shirt. That's how we found the flag that we got confirmation because the guys who got the flag posted on the thread the flag with a time stem. So we have confirmation that was the flack my god. So were okay. I'm just trying to understand where these the people who did this coming from fourteen to like organized to do this were they trump supporters or. Was it like just a big old prank. I'm just curious because you mentioned the maga hat at the end. I mean it's it's the had. It's it's it's irony because it was an anti-trump installation so of course they had to put something pro-trump on it. Just maximally mess with shaya shi'as of big mean ever since transformers the actual cannibals trial above all compounded to make this big thing. Well speaking of maga. I know you also mentioned the connection between four chan and trump and that fortune perhaps played a role in his election. I was wondering if you have additional thoughts on that connection and if fortune helped elect trump most definitely did thank. I mean trump was massive. I mean no one expected him to win but on the other end hillary clinton say no yikes and leave it. A bet servicer okay. We're gonna take this guy that no chance of winning. I mean look. It's donald trump. He was a pro wrestler. I mean but it was in the. Wwe it on video saying grabber by the pussy you know how the hell will this guy become president. We know exactly how this guy is going to become president going to make him become prison pregnant tournament to a mean entered into force him forward. That's the same peppy. Got declared a hate symbol for some reason because it was associated with fan alt-right media. I'm not saying that it's Solely for jen's responsibility that trump won but they definitely played a part in. Its ben it was all for the four ships and giggles. You know make like most things does. It's all for shits and giggles but it does have real world repercussions it did every word real world repercussions but before chentsov trump as the lesser of two evils. Were rather have this living. Meam than hillary clinton to use their nomenclature So perhaps we should avoid the trump versus hillary situations. And that's a can of worms that's been opened and shut and opened before so let's move onto something somewhat similar. Which is we know that you've spoken about the vigilante justice side of for chan for our listeners. Our guest and matt had a little pre chat before this recording. So we know you spoke about the vigilante justice. Can you tell our listeners. A little bit more about that side of fortune. One of my favorite examples. And it's one that became a mean because of the guy who didn't narration of it is the burger king. Fook lettuce so tonight. For bucks mentioned with the he will not by the speed at which fortune works. That flag was found found in less than thirty six hours. So they they fast so a guy posted a picture of himself stay in bergen uniform standing in the bucket of lettuce that they put on the burgers you know he was wearing boots and all and these like. Hey this is the burger king you get at. I mean this is the lettuce you get your local burger king and the people importune were none too happy about this. That several health code violations right there so a start working on it. And making if you kohl's and i think within three hours they found out where this guy were exactly where this guy worked we was. They contacted the branch and he got fired for Standing in the fucking lettuce Speedy speedy and it became a mean because there s gotten egypt. Gold chills heated narration of fifteen. Things for gen did or some some Blind and the way he said. I can't i can't recreate it but to either way he says number fifteen burger king foot lettuce is they paid very comical other other examples of this. Vigilante justice would there. Was this guy eight. I it's gonna it's gonna touch the can of worms at an anti-trump protests now trump rally captured which there was an anti fog guy. I don't know if this big fucking bike. Lock the metal. Hugh shape that locks into this thing and on video. He just goes on clocks. This one guy with it. You know the the bike up. I was wearing a mask on so this other guy is bleeding on his head. That's assault with a deadly weapon. So portuguese like hey. This can't fly this. And that's that's that's not. Okay you spokeswoman bed with the fucking likeloc. They scoured for any video footage it is. They saw bike. Lock or that. Guy's jacket bait. They followed him until they fucking found him and they reported him to the police. And i think today he's still on the run or just was never arrested for shorts. The right person in this isn't a boston bomber situation but have confirmed. It is the same person boston bomber situation. I feel like we should explain bat for the listeners. I'm not very familiar with it. I just know fault. They caught the boston bomber. And they didn't men on benn turned turned bad nasa similarly to how you're describing the vigilante justice you crowd sourced. Hey let's look at this footage. Let's look at this camera. Let's let's honk the horn. Make sure it's the right thing like it. Sounds like four chan has this down to a science but like read it. Got it wrong with the boston bomber and it was It was a big mess fortune has to have made mistakes and gotten it wrong. Do you recall any examples of that or has written about honestly. I can't because because when when it comes. And i think part of it boils back. To four jen's criticizing nature read it tried to emulate and the moment that they got a winner in game voice. We did it. We can lockdown. Show bud to. Unfortunately it's like. Hey it's this guy and twelve people in without even looking at your evidence go. You're a dumb ass. So there is so much more scrutiny. On what you post important and the proof you try and delivered unless you have rock solid evidence and you know. Hey this is the guy in people. Aren't going to agree with you. Then it's not going to get traction. So i guess that's interesting is. I really liked that phrase. He mentioned earlier about like. Everyone is just lines of text right so in this weird way it's inclusive but also very much not inclusive and i know also in your conversation with matt before we were recording that you mentioned that for chen's views tend to be pretty traditional. So how does that work. How is it in. What ways do you think it's it is inclusive. And how does. But i mean i tend to think of inclusivity and traditionalism as Mutually exclusive. i don't know if you agree or disagree but i was just wondering if you could expound a little bit on that relationship away i see it as the recent four chinese completely inclusive is because in the end there is no race gender sexual orientation anything like that on fortune there is just what you say you exist as nothing but raw personality on for unless you decide to reveal more about yourself from like a picture what you say that is all you are. I feel like that's something. People are scared of. Because if you're just to you you don't have any other layers that you could On if you just you and you get called out then into you being pulled up. It's not being called up because your women or because you're black or because you're a guy or whatever there isn't there is nothing like that if you get caller for something that you post it you and you might have to jimmy. Think about yourself. And i think a lot of people are scared of that with all that said brennan. Thank you for being here with us. Today it was very valuable to learn about four channel. We appreciate you taking the time especially all the way from south africa. Thank you to support for this. Podcast comes from progressive. Saving money on your car. Insurance is easy with progressive. It's an average savings of seven hundred ninety six dollars for customers who switch and save in fact. Customers can qualify for an average of six discounts on their auto policy with progressive including discounts. Just for starting a quote online or owning multiple vehicles get your quote online and progressive dot com and see how much you could be saving national average annual car insurance savings by new customer survey who save with progressive and twenty nineteen discounts vary and are not available in all states and situations. Shall we begin. I was just gonna say. I really appreciate that brendan shared so openly about all of. That was very gracious guest something. I'm struggling with this. I think about all this And you know it's a couple of different things but one is just like the real world repercussions of some of the things better described Because it seems that there are real world repercussion sprayed speech by having a space to get out your hate speech online rather than in the real world is good but then in the same interview talks about how for chan did help elect trump. so there's a very clear link to the real world. Yeah and also. I don't know the answer. Get the fuck out also was a little swallow of like you need to make a real argument. Like that's cool. I get that. But like if you're tagline for it objectify women which it just does like that is an objectification of women like then you're not going to be an inclusive space. Certainly for women. Like i don't want to hang out in a place that's like tits or gt. Even if it's not a serious request it's just not a place. I would wanna be a sort of a definition of inclusivity. I haven't thought of before in terms of like craig member. But i think he was saying. It's like the words that ultimately matter what people say it's not about the you are but i think it's just hard for me to like really wrap my brain around like it's just the words but then like the words are being predominantly said as i mean according to him by straight white men but i. I don't know if that's actually true the demographics but it's like can it truly be inclusive. It just means that everybody there is sort of conforming to that standard. But that's just how erin it. I'm not sure right. You have to say also that it's like You know as a man. I'm offended by that. Well dick or get the fuck out you know right. That's not happening than there is a standards issue. There i suppose in terms of inclusivity sure asia right do you think dickerson. Cfo has a nice ring or it should be balls or gt f. Or you'll say personally scrotum or i just workshop it and i think that's that just hits harder. It's funny but also grow there but but men would post pictures of their scrotum and also. Is it scrotum or scrotal. Does anyone know actually screwed up. But if we snow scroll dot org ho- yeah now. There are so many things that we're really fascinating. I do echo which said like it. I love that so many of our guests have been so that is a more interesting conversation than sort of towing some sort of party line about. You know the image. They want to present her this or that and of course you know we recognize that fortune is very very large community and so it really isn't fair to categorize them one way or another that said he had this quote. Fortune leans towards the greater good and he was talking about how they're against. Pedophilia an animal cruelty. Because those are like the most innocent creatures. And i get that but also hitler famously loved animals and saved the milwaukee choose so you know what i mean. So it's like if you're not you know. The vigilante justice like the the amount of time and effort that is spent on burger king lettuce versus like hate against humans. You know. it's that's hard for me to reconcile personally. Yeah although you know. I don't wanna eat lettuce. That spins stepped on either. So i have a. There's a question burning for me. That i want to pose to you. Which is it. there's a hierarchy of. I don't know he looked. Call them human rights or civil rights or whatever and as kids at least in the us where this this idea that like if free speech the first amendment of our of our constitution. It's number one and it feels like the most important thing but we have seen time and time again that when you let anyone say anything especially with the internet megaphone. There are other problems that happen and they are not just like oh we disagree and feel bad about it. It's like as you said real world. Problems violence marginalization and bias. And all these things and so i forget if it was a guest told us this but basically like you know. Pbs all these. Tv stations had standards. For what you could say or do during ramming right for broadcasters are so for the so it's not that crazy to think that the internet should have similar rules. But it's different because those are rules for broadcasters and media companies and such and there's also was this theory the carrier stuff was the government owns the bandwidth over which these programs are being transmitted and therefore there during severe rules. A what this is what the internet is is more of the town square and so enshrined in our constitution is if i and all my neighbors go out into the street any discussion issue we can all say whatever we want and thought is not a crime and speech is not a crime no matter what full stop period and that is sort of this american institution value in other countries obviously in china to so but then but then you can't yell fire in a crowded theater and you can't say hate speech legally like so we're i guess said this in their view. We're we're having this reckoning of like we want the internet to be a free place but also leads to really bad shit and so it's a philosophical question of like maybe free speech is not the most important thing i'm not into yangcheng mark but that's so hard to digest and actually no it's not that's that's that's the easy part is that maybe universal one hundred percent free speech is not good. The hard part is who gets to say what is banned and what's not is a tech companies. That's feels bad as governments. That feels bad. Is it you know mechanism delicious communities. That is i don't i can't figure that out. Well i'm not electing you for office then. Not but like what are you. Where where. Where does your gut land on this stuff. 'cause i'm conflicted. I personally think hate speech shouldn't be allowed in any forum whatsoever ever. I think if you have hate speech in your brain you gotta keep it to yourself and then other people can't go out there and be like. Oh wow this other person thinks just like me. Maybe we're right like just. You shouldn't be allowed under any circumstances and i think europe has much stricter laws against hate speech after the holocaust like but but who decides what is hate speech in what is not is a more pertinent question. Maybe because i agree with you. But i don't know where it's hard you know when you see it. It's like porn but things are out of context. What's the line where it becomes hate speech. You don't wanna just. That's a micro aggression not too. I mean does a valid at the workplace or whatever but like the internet would just go if. That's just wouldn't be good either. Like a a micro aggression is bad and we should be mindful of them but are they crimes terribly not. I don't think they should be because also at that point. You're not providing any learning experiences for people right to some extent people should microaggressions often. Are kelly accidental lists moments arguably insults. But they're not necessarily ill intentions and then if we don't allow those than we also aren't going to have space for learning conversations like hey here's why this was offensive. I think those are just a completely different category than hate speech. Where you're like so. Let me ask you this. Because i find this really fascinating. There are people among us in our world and in our country who grow up in racist cultures families communities and casual. Racism is probably not militias on their part. They are just saying things and doing things. That just don't know any better. Because they are ignorant is that and we would categorize a lot of that stuff has hate speech however it was not necessarily militias individual it is statically militias but that individual may not be aware to provide space for learning. And i think if everything is outlawed there is no space for learning. But i don't know what the line is matthew. That's why it's so hard it's i. I need everything to be in a box. Very clearly labeled matt's spent too long in quarantine but the internet clearly is power and words have power. I'm thinking of that example of a woman who was part of a very famous church. That is going out of my mind but maybe guys know what i'm talking about but Basically was through twitter that she and she grew up in a family that likes subscribe to the beliefs. Church and one of the big ones was that being gay god hates gay people or something and she and she would protest like her family took her to practice around the country and she had twitter following and people on twitter actually like helped her come around essentially understand like. I think it was people who i know what you're talking about. You know what i'm talking about. Yes so i think. That's such a cool story. She ended up marrying this guy who engaged her on will not get. They got engaged later but he engaged with her on twitter. Yeah she was the of. Yeah i can't remember but like a major major. She was there social media manager on twitter. Engaged with her and she came around. Change your mind. Married one of her twitter. I don't wanna see stores or h was because he engaged in a in a fruitful way. Yes so i mean the dilemma is like that's such a beautiful amazing story but those stories are so rare to rally to see to be reconfigured to hold space for actual reasonable conversation changing hearts and minds and not just like yelling at each other and like posting fan cams very much as i love that but yeah i mean maybe like just as important as places where you can say anything. That's on your mind is like i love her. He was talking about about like a bartender situation. Where you go in you can share your problem. And he offers you like a bit of wisdom like maybe there needs to be more sort of charge of dispensing the wisdom. I was going to say like a healing space but matt who does that. But this this this relies on the engagement and kindness of of not not wanna see volunteers but like people who go out of their way to engage and those are rare people this is not an institutionalized thing and i think about rebuilding in all the time but it's mostly from a perspective of like it shouldn't be supported by advertising it should be funded in diff- in a different way which would make it less abusive but that does not solve the. How do we make the internet more engaging or empathetic Until they we virtually beam like physical bodies into your room and then you're sitting down with them face to face and it is indistinguishable from real life. It will always be video chats and images and tax which inbreeds anonymity which breeds like. You said yelling and know empathy as technological barrier. That we are we are not even close to solve it. Yep if you know how to solve it as always we love to hear from you you know. 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151 Why Tech Companies Won't Let You Fix Your Own Stuff (Steve Porter, TronicsFix)

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151 Why Tech Companies Won't Let You Fix Your Own Stuff (Steve Porter, TronicsFix)

"The. Now Return Touch Oh girl one on past may only podcast is that still rambling covered buying a manual fact. Warrant. Korean long years after you out the locks. Down here when we`re Never Arteta repair. Minor. tune-ups. From. I'm. Hello everybody I'm Jen I'm allie welcome to two girls one podcast alley and I are performers or we to show a live comedy show called blogs where we use the Internet as our script. We then interview people behind the Post One unscripted adventures and a web series. We made called two girls, one show, and here we are two girls one podcast. We are making this with the daily dot and our producer Matt Hi Matt Hello Hello and in this here by guest we're talking to people by an Internet phenomena and communities that we find really Interesting relevant you hopefully will find relevant to today's topic in fact, was suggested by listener from the show. So Elliott who was that and what was that all about almost surely at almost surely you can. You can go into our discord discord that G G slash to g one P. You can suggest topics you can chat with other listeners, but the right to repair is the fact bet companies make it really difficult to repair your own fucking technology, and then you have to buy new technology that maybe you don't even want and so apparently there's a whole movement called the right to repair which I was pretty excited to find out about. Learn more about it. That's right. We're talking today to Steve Border who is a fixer and he has an online presence. A big one on Youtube has over seven hundred thousand subscribers on his Youtube Channel transfix where he teaches you basically how to fix devices and. Right to repair as a consumer protection movement and I we believe the more you learn about it the more you are also going to be very interested and want to get behind it too. So stay tuned for that. Well, friends I have some breaking news in quarantine that I'd like to share. I've had enough breaking news lately. It's valid point. Of News. Positive it's Jen Jen. Knows Matt doesn't know but. So speaking of. I don't know big corporations and consumers I. Suppose is only tangentially related to the topic, but it's big news speaking of you've been listening for a long time. I have broken up. With trader Joe. I now. I know. I know and I even wrote a letter to Joe because I'm weird I really did. I did. Okay. So I was in New York and I was watching my beautiful state of California burn and it's still burning. It's burning and burning, and I was like you know what? I need to be better and we all need to be better and I need to get rid of all of my single use. Plastic is humanly possible. It's actually crazy how hard it is to get rid of plastic in your life. And? I need to do some things. So I there's several things done I got. Bamboo toilet paper people apparently, Boto Bambu toilet papers way better for the world than regular toilet papers easy switch you can make. Six, nine actually just came in today so I'll report back on the state of my asshole in a week. No 'cause 'cause bamboo regrows and apparently like lease yet. Exactly. So we got that that I've today I got beeswax I will not be using Saran wrap anymore I got silicone bags, Ziplock bags, and then Oh, and I also got bought There's a service where you can get tablets that you put into the old bottle of cleaner and just add water. So there's not like the shipping and fossil fuels with shipping of these huge containers of cleaning supplies and also you know ever buying more plastic bottles of cleaning. Twice I've been doing a lot of stuff looking into more things I can do. And then I walked into my beloved trader Joe's and what did I see but Rows and rows of plastic they. They wrap their there's usually everything cucumbers. Everything is individually wrapped in plastic everything and I was like you know what? A cancer, this cancer, the so I've been doing imperfect foods for a little while actually in quarantine but now I'm making it. My primary source of groceries about plastic is that right? Almost none you know of course, if you get berries, they still come in a little plastic fuck in cart but bay. Yeah. Will they think about him? `perfect foods and I hear misfits market is the big one on the East Coast is that so much food is thrown away just because it's It looks a little funny because then turn up is sexy Google turnips early sexy. Often have they had these legs it's pretty awesome. Okay. Anyway. There's so much stuff that just like couldn't get sold on shelves and in California sometimes the reason it's not sold is literally surplus. It's just surplus than the can't sell them the source. Yeah, and they just throw it in a box. It's not separated by bags or whatever and like. Yes. Sometimes, my artichoke is like thrown up with my peaches but turns out a tell the difference between an artichoke peach. So I'm okay you know but Yes. So I've made it my primary source of groceries now and I miss a miss. Joe. Already, I do a mischievous the miss the prepackaged. Shit. Have to learn to cook now it's five terrible. I know you relied sometimes in life prepackaged meals things you could heat up quickly when you were working. So are you just going for yourself now? Yeah, I'm cooking myself, which is much easier in quarantine of course, because I can just like cook for the weekend reheat for lunch, but it might be different than the world opens back up but. But I heard trader Joe's is trying to reduce its plastic. So I signed a petition. I wrote a letter saying you know I love you and I'd love to come back to you but I need you to reduce your plastic. It's insane. Other local grocery stores are better like you go to a normal grocery store in the produce is not individually wrapped in plastic. I have not been trader does and probably at least nine months but maybe year and I don't Miss It. But It but okay you'll. Enjoy go occasionally because there's a lot of sauces and stuff that you know it's a that you can't get. Any better packaging. I was going to say you can. You can't buy your staples week to week, but you can make purchases at traderjoes that do not print. Gel once in awhile, we'll say, hi, grab your coffee kind of thing but so I don't WanNa draw back too many painful memories. But like what did you say to? Joe When you broke up with him, like just pretending it was happening right now. I know. I literally wrote a letter. To letter, there's SIPE. It lets you like write a letter to the CEO. I don't know if they ever fucking Cedar read it but I was like, Hey, Joe I love you so much can't wait to come back to you but I need you to reduce your plastic in order for us to be together. That is what I what I'm hearing is that you were too chicken to do it face to face so you sent a message and then goes to. There's a pandemic. See Him face to face. A few. Calls, it's not my fault. This does remind me of my dating life though there are times where it's like, I, don't WanNa and things by tax like he won't answer my calls I'm like. Endless by Texas. I hope you hear back. You do have to let us know. You told me more just briefly about imperfect foods. This is an order online thing. It's an order online and they saw over the around the country. Yeah it's great for quarantine as well. It is delivered in a box and they are taking the stuff that farmers cannot sell in grocery stores and giving it to the consumer. So supposedly, it's also cheaper to order from there because you know it's stuff that's going to get thrown out. So it's offered at a discount. Amazing. Everyone should do it and you should use my referral code. So I get ten dollars and you get ten dollars. It's Alison ally. So an underscore seven, nine, zero, eight apparently in my referral link. So everybody that's GonNa be really fun for me actually of listeners do it and I just keep getting ten bucks and they get ten bucks I was surprised it was not allie. Four twenty, six, nine, six, nine, xxx, your usual Matt I wasn't allowed to customize. They auto generated this shit obviously because that is my passwords everything actually is crack. Xxx I'm mostly disappointed that you drop this huge news on us and I did not have any sound effects cubes. Guy Just say like, Hey, big news I just broke up with trader Joe's just give it to him on time. And breaking up. With trader Joe. What We're really. Let's repair this episode with some Trivia. Not Stay at today's episode about repairs speaking of them. Dr Felix Ray. Made some repairs of his own that in hindsight. Were very bad idea. One of these scenarios is a true story. The other two I made up what was Dr raise repair job gone horribly wrong A. Dr Ray Treated Vincent Van Gogh after the artist's cut off his own ear with a razor blade as a thank you gift. Van. Gogh painted a portrait of Dr Ray, but the doctor didn't care for it. He didn't like the way he looked in the portrait instead of hanging it up or putting it in storage he used it to repair a chicken coop. And then later he gave the painting away today that painting is worth fifty million dollars. A. Dr Ray made a house call to treat Norma Jeane Mortenson who is in bed with the flu during their conversation. Dr Ray lamented that his curtains were ripped up. They were shredded. They needed repair machine generously insisted that he take home a pile of white fabric from her table. He did take it home. He repaired the curtains two days. Later he got an angry call from the Wardrobe Department at Twentieth Century Fox, who demanded that the fabric be returned to the movie studio so that it could be turned into the iconic white dress for that generous patient Marilyn Monroe. At last auction in two. Thousand Eleven those curtains which turned into address sold for five point six million dollars. Choice e get ready Dr Ray checked in with his patient Nolan, Bushnell after a nasty bout of pneumonia bushnell was doing just fine and was already back to work at his office. Both men were very technical guys much like our guest today. Dr Ray was using a very newfangled commodore PT Personal Electronic Trans Actor in his medical office to keep track of patient files and billing and such. This was very revolutionary at the time. But the computer was on the Fritz due to a defective motherboard Dr. Ray asked if he could take spare motherboard from the pile that was on Bush nails workbench bushnell warned him. He said, no, that's not going to be compatible but Dr Ray. Way rate installed the incompatible motherboard and completely fried his computer that's because he was connecting a prototype for the Atari Twenty six hundred video game console that Bushnell's company would later release that year in one thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, seven there were only six Atari. motherboard prototypes created two of which are known to still exist and which have recently sold at auction for four hundred and thirty thousand dollars. That is choice. So, which messed up repair deductor raid do what the? Heck. You Mehta. Two of these. Movie Scripts. South vivid I'm going to guess he really did Marilyn Monroe's curtains. Stress. But I will diversify with see Allie goes with see the Atari motherboard no one is choosing the van Gogh portrait used as a chicken coup. Angry White Man Cut buccaneer. Otherwise wrong with them. We will find out after this commercial break. You know who needs no repairing. I think I know where you're going with those who might that be our Patriot supporters they are perfect. Are Yes yes. No need to be fixed at all. Thank you so much for being perfect in every way and contributing at the ten dollar level or more Chris Harrison. Kerry Duran Jessica Fox Melissa Eliot James Dosier Christopher Latch Kathy. Phillips. William and Matthew Scott. You're all the apples of our is. You. Do need an a new battery just let us know. Support for this podcast comes from state farm here with good news and even better news. The good news state farm has new lower car insurance rates. 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Yes, and so we are leaving see on the table that Dr Ray repaired his computer, his office computer with a prototype of the Atari Twenty six hundred motherboard answers locked answers lot ready to go the correct answer is The Van Gogh painting chose a Allie gets it ray. Switch perceptive. Alley Allie was you did on a clue that I had set off air I'll say this I did research into all of these scenarios in the course of crafting fix area monetary than each. There's a little bit not not necessarily truth but like you know, I, had to learn the circumstances of Maryland and Natarajan and things of that sort. But like what I was going to say was that Van Gogh is like a just a super fucked up person who is just like a totally tormented person who I believe like you know is a genius but probably nobody cared about him or his work in its own time I mean this doctor was like. Van Gogh made a picture of you and he's like fucked start in the trash or throw it in the chicken coop like that's how like ignored. He was in his time and so and I and then I also learned you know I don't know anything about art history van Gogh also killed himself. So it was like cut off body parts, shoot himself with a gun, and now years later we we look at him as as the genius it's it's so interesting. What asshole do you know in your life that? Will one day be a well I. Left on them so it's hard. All right we'll speak ask. Getting. Kicked opposite of NASA, he's trying to fight the astles. That's true. We have with us a youtube or known as onyx fix. His real name is Steve Porter he is a fixer please. Welcome. Steve to the show. Thank you so nice to have you here. Yeah. It's great to be here. Can you please breakdown for us in your own words? First of all, what is right to repair? Basically you probably have an iphone in multiple other you know computers devices whatever, and in the olden days did used to be that you could just go to a little shop downtown or wherever, and get those repaired, and it's becoming very difficult to do that manufacturers would rather see you buy a new product versus repair your old one and get it going for longer, and we see this in not only the small personal vices you have but even up to like John Deere tractors and is becoming a huge problem because lots and lots of people just want to keep using what they already have but unfortunately. If you take to repair shop a lot and repair shops can't get cards or they can't get repair information to find out the best way to fix it. So all most of the fixtures out there just kind of doing their best on their own. So the right to repair is people trying to fight back against that and create laws that basically force manufacturers to let us by parts. Let us get the repair information we need. So we can provide this service to people who are looking for it. Okay. So before we get more into all that, what is your background? My background is in Repairer I. Started repair back when I was a kid, I lived on four hundred. Acre. Ranch out in. Central Oregon. and. We lived L. Eighty miles away from the closest place. We did buy cards or get anything repaired and when you're trying to get up a crop of Alfalfa Hay for example, you don't have days. You have. You know it could rain the next day and rain ruined can not necessarily ruin it but make the market price of the hey, much lower. So it's very important when it's time to. Get that, hey, out of the field, you have to get it done like now you can't wait for a couple of days. So if a piece of equipment broke down, we had to get it fixed asap and however we could. So that's kind of like that's kind of how I grew up. That's my mindset and that's why I definitely back the right to repair and let's give these people. Whether a farmer or just somebody with a phone, all the access they need to you know six their stuff. Wow that's so cool. And how did that spun a business and Youtube Channel for you that story is very long story and condense it out as much as I can my wife and I we moved back in with my wife's parents her dad got sick and we live far away so. We wanted to live closer, and so we basically quit our jobs and moved in with them. That wasn't necessarily what we wanted to do but you know housing was super expensive and stuff like that and so while we're there, we we obviously need a job. So we're like, okay whoever gets the best job offer? I will take the job and the other one we'll stay home with our son. And so she happened to get the best job offer. So I was a stay at home dad then and I've always been a fixer as I said. So I started looking for ways to make money on the side, and so I started buying broken stuff from Ebay or goodwill wherever I could find and trying to fix it and that just kind of kept growing as I learned more and more and. It grew into an actual business and what's the goal with your youtube channel because it seems like you're really trying to empower people like maybe even start their own businesses. So it just I guess give people an idea of what are the things you're covering on there and what? What's the goal of it? Yes. Sure. I had started a repair shop like I said and mainly fixing game consoles and I wasn't. Familiar with Youtube as of viewer, but not really at Creator so but I was always interested. So I figured why not film this video of this specific prepare on a PS four, the HD report and you know do my best to edit I had no idea how to edit and so I did that just of it up and then you know people kinda started watching and and I didn't really have a point to it other than number one to show people how to fix something number two maybe I could eventually make money at this someday I. I'm a I'm a fixer end as well as a business person I'm very business entrepreneurial minded. So I kinda threw it up there just to kind of see what it does. I'm constantly experimenting with different businesses or different ideas, and now is just you know one of those and so that's kind of where it started. And now my point of it is yes, definitely business you know. It's great to be doing something where I can foam videos and then my wife helps me as well. So it's all stay at home, and so we could make money staying at home and doing something we enjoy. So definitely business as well as yeah. Empowering people to learn how to fix things. I didn't go into it thinking I would be some sort of inspiration for someone to fix something but I get a Lotta those comments like, Hey, you're channels inspired me to try to fix. Stuff or get a job in repair or whatever. So that's that's become one of the points of it as well. So looking at the right to repair overall, what are the primary ways that companies prevent consumers from being able to just fix it themselves to things come to mind one is there's literally zero repair information for, for example, ps four X. boxes or switches. Those are all things I I, built a business repairing. So I had no guidance from any of the device manufacturers you just. Have to take it apart and try and figure it out. Number two is they don't provide any parts. They don't give you any guidance on parts. I have stacks of Nintendo switches of PS fours of xboxes that either one I can't get parts for or to I have to steal parts from other broken devices in order to fix that device. So I have literally thousands of dollars these devices just sitting on the shelf because I can't buy the parts for them this really interesting to. Me that the devices are proprietary and the knowledge is locked, but the repair knowledge has become open source of like up going to crack it open and if I find out information about apart I'm gonNA share it online and I assume part of your process when you encounter new devices like what have other people already uncovered and and knowledge sharing that is that fair yeah that's definitely fair and when I first started my repair business, there was very little on Youtube about PS fours xboxes can. Just come out when I started. So even then it was like well, let's crack it open and see if I can figure something. Now you know you start you know heating stuff up to re flow the solder balls or replacing random saying. Eventually start kind of figuring it out, and that's when Youtube really comes into play especially now, there's a lot of repair channels out there now and they're just out there showing what they do how to fix it in. That's come in. So Handy. So many times and there's also things like facebook groups and stuff like that where we all kind kinda just share our knowledge and together we provide an atmosphere where we can all learn how to fix this stuff because that's the only choice right now. Yeah. So, what are some of the other major ways that the company's prevent this? So I know there's things with warranties and then things that will make your warranty in eligible. We were reading about how you know going back to farming that some of the equipment can actually track if you've tried to repair it yourself, and then the whole thing shuts down. So what are the various shitty things that companies and manufacturers are doing to fuck it all? Yeah. So you mentioned the warranty stickers. So I mean that's a super simple one that is not necessary. It used to be that on the back of appears four the sticker actually said warranty removed that's actually illegal even even suggest. Reflect the sticker falls off the sticker wasn't there or if they could tell you remove, they'd be like sorry warranties not valid anymore. And so oh. Shit. Completely, agreed. So eventually, I think about two years ago, the FTC finally stepped in and said, Hey, you can't do that and so then they finally just put are putting black stickers on the back. So which I mean it's fine covers up the screw and that's fine. You know is not a good deal. I. Think People just take the sticker off an open it. You know. So I mean, that's that's one of the first things that comes to mind is like they're trying to prevent people from even considering opening something up you know and and that's just ridiculous. Yeah, and what are the excuses that they use I? Mean I assume that they like their proprietary technology or something like that. But are there other things are unlike safety? What are the companies have to say the reason is for all of us? Yeah. Some of the primary reasons one of them is they claim that inexperienced repairs will be fixing their stuff, which sometimes is true. I? mean. You can have people start a business and say, Hey, I can fix this stuff and they really can't. But that's a ridiculous excuse when there's a lot of very incredibly qualified people one of the names that comes to mind you guys may have had know about this but Louis Rothman is. The Best Mac book repair technician I know of He's got a huge youtube channel and a big voice in the right to repair and he fixes things on a regular basis that people have taken to the apple store to get their computer fix not fixable. You have to replace the motherboard it'll be eighteen hundred dollars. That's just a random example. You know, I, don't know the numbers, but instead they'll take it to him and he'll be and he'll just look at it. You Know Diagnosis A. Twenty dollar part is bad or you know his time is valuable some sometimes, it costs two hundred dollars whatever the case is. But it is totally fixable. It's just a matter of the fact that the apple store a probably doesn't WanNA, fix it they wanNA. Put in a whole new motherboard or whatever, and be. They don't want to be training all of these repair people that in depth and so instead of doing that, they just say sorry can't repair it. You can trade it in new one. You can replace the motherboard for whatever the price is. But it can't. It's not fixable when it actually is fixable I'm getting so mad and inspired. Who the biggest culprits we assume apple apples but mentioned who else? Yeah I mean pretty much. Basically. All huge manufacturers you know Apple Nintendo Sony Microsoft. You know they all have a big part in this and I'm assuming a lot of the smaller ones too. You know I name the big ones because those ones I know a little bit about but there's very, very few manufacturers who say, yeah, let's help people repair this I I know as an example Patagonia, the clothing company they've teamed up with I fix it to provide repair guides For their clothing. So you're button comes off of your pants or your jacket, and it's Patagonia brand. You can go to fix it and look and learn about how to fix it yourself, and that sort of thing is a very obvious easy thing manufacturers could do to help people be able to fix their stuff instead of saying, well, just throw it away or send it to us to recycle and buy a new one since the rites repair is you know. Not Doing so well. What happens to all these parts instead like how much of it? How do you know much the company companies recycle or reuse versus helmets just ends up at a landfill what's going on? Yeah I know that for example, apple's talk a little bit about apple I know that they are doing a lot of recycling, which is definitely a good step. My problem with their recycling program is they're taking devices that could be fixed or even just reused even as is and they're recycling those instead of letting people use them So I mean, that's frustrating. There's as far as I. I don't know of any major programs from Sony or Microsoft for recycling I don't know of any major you know advertising pushes or anything like that. But really what it comes down to for me is. You know you look at the individual household how many people have you know old phones or old game consoles are old whatever it is just sitting in their closets broken. They're going to go through the closet they're going to toss it or possibly donated somewhere but probably just throw it away especially phones old phones just junk as far as most people are concerned they upgrade and don't think about it so. Unfortunately. There's no push for the average consumer to try and fix it themselves. But second of all, you know there's more repair from information out there than it'd be easy to just say I'll just take it down to the local shop and have them fix it and you know still use it or give it to my son or give it to someone who could use it. Yeah. I'm at the time when I get rid of my tech, it's not because I Want to you it's because it's it stops working and there's no other option, right so I have an iphone seven plus right now and you know it's it's getting to be where the battery doesn't last as long and I'll probably replace the battery but unfortunately, it's first of all I mean the batteries are definitely fixable but they're definitely hard to get in. The repair information out there is from youtubers or fix it or something like that. There's no I mean how hard it would be would it be for apple? The just published a little guide on this is how you take it apart replace the battery because it's not gonNA. Last forever. So and then you provide a part a factory park for it and It's disheartening there must be a spreadsheet somewhere that we're apple looks at that thing you just described and said Okay we could sell a lot of proprietary batteries and and make them available to the consumer. And that would then mean less we would have to pay less people to work at the genius bar. Theoretically there there's an argument for that or in this column of the Spreadsheet we know that, yes, we're GONNA have to pay a few more salaries of genius bar, but we can up charge ridiculous amounts. Slash people are just going to buy new phones and therefore we're going to go with columbine clearly a market incentive and the consumers are. Willing to just say I could research this or I'm too scared to fix it. Myself Slash Hey I'll just pay extra hundred bucks and get a shiny new phone I. Most people don't have your superpower to to just know how to do it or or take the time. So what do you advise the average consumer to do if they're just not handy they're or they're not they're not brave enough less being I'm not brave enough to crack switch. I just I'm just not yeah I mean I I'm I'm totally realistic about the fact that lots and lots of people that just either are interested or just don't have the skill and I understand that and I mean my opinion is that first of all, there are a lot of good third party repair shops or Google. You can find them and you know that's one of the best options in my opinion if you're not interested in learning how to fix it yourself and place it now I do I. I can't say that I think Apple's completely wrong or bad with their recycling because I think it is important for a manufacturer of they're gonNA manufacturer saying my iphone in my hand if my battery just. goes out or the battery life is running low or whatever, and I want to get a new phone. It's way better to say we'll bring in your old phone. We'll give you some money for it and will recycle it for you that I commend that that's a good thing in my opinion and then you know give me some credit on a new one or whatever the case is. So I mean that's definitely not the worst option. It's better than just throwing it out or you know whatever but also if manufacturers made devices that are meant to last. Longer and you guys may have heard about the Halsey. Aska with apple where they were purposefully slowing people's phones down. You know a few years into owning in that sort of thing is just ridiculous. So speaking of that fiasco with apple, what are the different organizations that are you know working towards the right to repair our their actions that consumers can take you know I know it might sound silly. But are there petitions that can be signed What's what's what are the different facets of you know maybe trying to convince these companies tech agriculture everywhere just to Behave better especially since I assume they're very positive environmental impacts. Yeah. I think I fix. It is probably on the forefront of this movement. If you go to repair DOT ORG, you can sign up and help out any way you can obviously money always helps, but it also comes down to helping get laws passed, which is extremely difficult when there's very well funded companies sending lobbyists out to any right to repair bill that that they try and get past if there's you know these well-funded people coming in and saying, this is a bad idea for whatever reason. So. Any way that you can be in contact with I fix it the right to repair repair dot org, and when they send out any sort of email saying, hey, contact your lawmakers and you know oppose this bill or you know signed this petition for this bill than that's going to be one of the most helpful things and obviously just awareness there's so many people out there that just have no clue that this is even happening, and so you know anything that you can do to be more aware is GONNA help. Yeah. It's funny because I always thought that this issue is really annoying and weird but I had no idea there was a movement to do anything about. The Nice for us to learn, and hopefully, people will go to repair dot org. Another thing too is I used to be a mechanic and went to college for Automotive Technology and so I was working in in an independent repair facility and Now, the automotive industry they do have some right to repair laws already passed. So mechanics can go and look at wiring diagrams, look at repair manuals that are from the manufacturer, and we can go to the manufacturer and buy parts or oem parts directly from the manufacturer, and that's just huge being able to do that, and for some reason, those laws and I haven't looked into those laws and too. So I know why but those laws don't translate into the electronic devices, which is super frustrating. If all it took if all, there was just the same laws for. Fixing your electronic devices that'd be huge I obviously agree with you that those laws should translate but I think the reason is because like you better fix my car with the exact right parts I'm going to die if you do not fix the absolute perfect like you might mechanic must have access to the blueprints because otherwise, how can I get in my car? So it's not life or death with your iphone but. But obviously certainly agree with you that that should carry over to other devices. Yeah. For sure. I was wondering you know there's these different advocacy groups working towards the right to repair in what ways are tech or other companies pushing back and lobbying against that, and you know claiming that it's not a great idea for health and safety or whatever. Yeah. So anytime, a right to repair legislation introduced in any state they send. As many people as they can, or you know they're lawyers in to comment on it to say it's a bad idea. Obviously, these companies have basically unlimited amounts of money to do that whereas the repair community we don't have that have all these descent whoever you want to every single hearing in just squashes before it can even really be heard than obviously it's going to be pretty tough to win that fight. talked to us about our devices. So you know our our phones on the Fritz or whatever we turn it off with on not working. What mainstream tack items do you think are the easiest to repair? First of all, that's a great move to turn it off in back on. The. Easiest to repair. Boy I'm not actually really sure the easiest to repair game consoles definitely have an advantage because they're not all glued shut. They still have screws in them, and so those are definitely on the easier side I actually think a lot of personal small appliances. A lot of times really aren't that hard to repair. For example, I got a giving this free toaster wants and it was a nice toaster and it just you know when you push it down to keep the bread and it wouldn't stay down and all I found all add to do is clean it out 'cause there's just a little magnet that held that hang down. Actually. There's microprocessor in this toaster to the avenue. That was back in the old days a couple of years ago before they had you know fi connected testers. Stopping disgusting and you're a place. And then which devices are the most difficult to repair you'd be like just take them to somebody else immediately. My last video was about go pros and go pros used to be fairly repairable but the new ones that they've come out with their just glued shut completely and there are a few scare screws on the inside. And but it's super hard to get to them, and just the average person is never going to be able to do that. I've been repairing devices for electronic devices for five years now, and it's really hard for me to even fix that stuff just because you have to. You know he by and all this stuff to get the front cover off, which is then kind of bent from the heat and then you have to try and put it all back together. It's never going to be waterproof again in those kinds of things are super frustrating even things like the new iphones they're pretty difficult to repair I have a on eleven pro. That, I put a new screen on and even though it was an apple screen is still comes up with the error or not an Airbus a notification saying that the screen was not repaired properly or something similar I don't remember the exact words and that super frustrating because the screen is the perfect screen it works fine. Everything's good. But Apple knows that it was not a scream that they put on but that's the software talking to the hardware. So not only do you have to get in there with your tools, but you have to be a computer hacker to force the West to recognize screen like that's next level stuff that. You don't know what you do. Yeah, and then this doesn't even touch on the subject of all the apples security features, which for the most part I like I love security. But at the same time, you can't buy a second-hand phone where someone's forgot the password on just reset it. You know imagine if you bought a car and you for you sold it and they lost the keys and so they just couldn't get into her car and they had to be recycled you. Fifty thousand dollar car because. Had the keys anymore? Just ridiculous love that comparison and yes, it's bonkers. What do you think about places like back market because I bought are refurbished phone off their last year and I have mixed feelings do have feelings. I actually didn't even know about back market until last week, and so I don't really have an opinion on them. Specifically if there's a company that's providing high-quality refers products I'm all for it I love that idea. But honestly it's difficult to make that business work just because of all of the problems that we've already discussed. Yeah it's just so hard because since they make it so difficult to repair then it's like whenever you go to repair place, it somehow seems sketchy right? Like are they screwing you're? Not. Normal yeah exactly and the part of the problem too is since there's a lot of of parts that you can't buy from the manufacturer but then the manufacturer is telling you if this company doesn't use oem parts, then they're going to be inferior. So the only option repairers have sometimes is to use parts not from the manufacturer because manufacturer won't sell them. But in most cases, those parts are still at least as good as came from the manufacturer not in all cases. But in most cases, where is right to repair most active online is a youtube and a you mentioned facebook groups earlier racing on. As far as the right to repair movement repair, Dot Org I, fix it most people that work for fix that are somehow involved in the right to repair because that's just one of their huge sings is the right to repair. That's what they're all about I. Don't want my channel to be about the right to repair, but I also want to really support it and get people aware of it. So I'm trying to do repair kind of like repair. Entertainment that attracts a large viewership and then also mentioned some of that. So then people who might not think that get exposed to it I totally get it people want to see the guts and see what's inside a ps four news are like thirty, forty minute videos of just looking at guts on it's it's beautiful. Yes. Some of them some of them are pretty long I try and keep short as possible to keep the viewership up the average view duration. But there. I didn't I didn't realize this when I started I for sure no it now. But there's a lot of people interested in watching someone trying to fix something in didn't realize that. But that was one of the breakthroughs of my channel. When I've bought I I think it was about eight Nintendo switches that were broken and I just went through and tried to fix them on camera and I. It just blew me away how many people wanted to see that stuff. So then I started. Not. Necessarily transitioning my channel but transitioning a little bit more towards the entertainment aspect of it because I done mostly just hey, this is how you repair this thing and now I'm trying to turn it into like I bought all this stuff. Let's see if I can fix it. So I'm showing all the fixes still but I'm doing it in a little bit more interesting entertaining way I hope and I've yeah, there's a lot of people. That really enjoy watching that and they learn a lot of stuff from it. So I'm loving it. So we have a question from our dischord server from almost surely who also suggested today show topics. Thank you. His question for you Steve is how do you feel about the cost of sourcing parts? He says for some of the older systems he works with they are worth fixing because some of the parts cost as much as a new machine. Unfortunately as I already mentioned, some parts just aren't available I have like I said stacks of PS four X. boxes that I have just to harvest parts office. So I can fix other things. So you know it's not just a matter of the parts cost. It's a matter of I literally can't fix this device without stealing the part from a different motherboard super frustrating but then when you do. Bring in the the cost of apart then turns as far as a business perspective. It turns the repair as a business into something that costs a lot more because I just can't offer it at a cost that I think is fair because the part costs so much money and so from a business perspective, it gets extremely frustrating. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense to wrap up today we're wanting. To know what do you hope comes out of the whole right to repair movement and the efforts that you're making to hopefully advance that? Yeah I. I. Hope that at some point in the future if I have, let's just use the PS five for example, I have a PS five here and I need one of the little chip on the motherboard I hope in the future I can go to. Some website even if it's Sony's own website and by that part for whatever it costs five bucks sometimes more and have it ordered, it's sent to me look up the maybe this schematic of it, and then just fix it with that art that I bought for twenty dollars or five dollars. It's much more of a fun job. When I have everything I need to do the job sounds like a dream. Thank you Steve so much for being with us today it's been a pleasure speaking with you. Thank you for having. Support for this podcast comes from Microsoft teams. Now, there are more ways to be a team with Microsoft teams bring everyone together in one space with a new virtual room collaborate live drawing sharing and building ideas with everyone on the same page and make sure more of your team is seen and heard with up to forty nine people on screen at once learn more about all the newest teams features at Microsoft Dot com slash teams. God does anyone else feel like the world is to sell fucked? Median fucked. Yeah. We can't have nice things. Without a few conglomerates ruining the whole thing. So frustrating. And also, I'd like want these mom and pop repair shops like. Small Business. And small business literally what hour go? Pop. Yeah It feels like just so motivated by the wrong reasons and it's not to our benefit and yeah also just Fox up your life and his bad for the environment I'm just saying like piles of phone setting. Somewhere, like out in the world like millions of those I have two to three cell phones at home that I still don't know what to do with the two three laptops center just in my storage space. So it's pretty bad guys. Well, I think today it would be great if our listeners went to repair dot Oregon check some shit out there sexually a really cool map that shows you where right to repair bills have been introduced. So you can call your senators said, there's some concrete actions we can take out of this little. FBI. Yes. Can I playing with FBI as a thing and I don't think it works I don't think. So Foods. A little bit like epilepsy is like, what are we talking about? You know? What? About epide- up? Yet. Better. Thank you so much for Work Shopping that with me Matthew I think we got there. 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Can Broadway learn lessons from theater in South Korea?

Marketplace Morning Report with David Brancaccio

07:56 min | 4 months ago

Can Broadway learn lessons from theater in South Korea?

"This marketplace podcast is supported by transfer. Wise. The smart new way to send and receive money internationally join over eight million customers in eighty countries who are already saving and try it for free at transfer. Wise Dot com slash marketplace, or download the APP. The Race for Global Corona virus vaccine suffers a setback live from London. This is the marketplace morning report from the BBC World Service. I'm Victoria Craig Good morning shares of Astra Zeneca are down one and a half percent this morning here in London despite abroad rally in European markets that sending the stock six hundred index up seven tenths of a percent. That's after the British Swedish pharmaceutical giant said final clinical trials of the. Corona. Virus vaccine, it's developing with Oxford. University have been put on hold worldwide. An independent investigation will take place to determine why a British volunteer developed an unexplained illness and has been hospitalized. This is the second time. This trial has been put on hold, but the team say that's not unusual for such large-scale tests, tens of thousands of volunteers in Britain. South Africa Brazil and the United States have so far taken part in the trial. No Work? No pay no food coronavirus lockdowns have forced many people all over the world to wonder where their next meal's will come from according to Matthew True. Scott Oxfam International's head of Humanitarian Policy About one hundred and twenty one million people have been pushed to the edge of starvation. This year not of course is across the main hotspots you would expect Yemen Democratic Republic of Congo of Gunston Venezuela, south. Sudan we're also seeing hunger coming up in otherwise middle income or developing countries. India South Africa Brazil CETERA. Look at a situation in the world where you have about sixty sixty, one percent working in the informal economy when that denied that daily income forced to stay at home they no longer get that income and that forces them into some of the negative coping strategies and that's what makes this crisis so unique. People. Couldn't travel to work which meant they couldn't make money and they couldn't buy food but this isn't just a short term problem. Is it Yeah and it has sort of long term impacts where, for instance, if you take people who are living day to day selling milk, if they can't sell milk for a few days, it gets point whether then have to do something to have food and income then have to sell their means of income. So selling the cow which had been providing them and then conquered back to generate income and same happens instead of urban areas where people who had been, for instance, taxi drivers after. So long of not being able to take fares and give taxi rights eventually then have to start selling off assets to cope and that's where we're really. Seeing potential long-term structural breakdown, and as you say, this is a problem that existed before the pandemic. So how do we tackle it this time around does it require new solutions? It does with sort of proposing three solutions. The I of course is that we need to increase humanitarian aid drastically the U. N. Global Humanitarian Appeal has called for about ten point, three billion dollars in humanitarian aid. But only about twenty, four percent of that is funded. So less than a quarter, the second thing that we can do is cancelled some of the debt that could free up up to a trillion dollars, and then of course, the final thing is. Exactly, as you say, we do need to change how system works. We need to build a more fair and more robust food system. We need to build a system that's ready to deal with the climate shocks that's able to produce sustainable food. One that supports a small-scale Farmers Informal Workers, Matthew Scott head of humanitarian policy at Oxfam International. Thanks for your time. Thank you so much here in the UK fresh restrictions on social gatherings will go into place next week to prevent further spread of covid nineteen. That's far from welcome news for live entertainment venues and performers who haven't been allowed to work since lockdown was first imposed in March Thomas. Engines. An actor in the West End. London's Broadway. When the lights went out, he was preparing to go on tour but quickly switched gears and found work at a supermarket as a checkout team leader to make ends meet. Here's what he told me right after he got that job in April. Oh, it's weird is very strange I. Think if I think about it too much upsets me because this is why planned on doing these teams but it's nice to be busy. That's why most grateful for. Well, it's been nearly five months since that conversation. So we caught up with Thomas this morning and he had a bit of news to share. In South Korea and I'm about to open in custody tonight, which is so exciting. That is quite the change from the last time we spoke to you Thomas you were working in April at a local TESCO. So how did you end up in South Korea now five months later was on a bit of wall with on the show before and I've been asked about committed rejoined the show and I said no because lights go another show lined up and I was really excited flat and hoping kind of covert with Clare, very quickly. And it didn't. I was told that the other job has been delayed a year. So I thought. Well, I'm going to jump on the cat strayed. So within a few weeks left TESCO and I was I was out in South Korea. So how long have you been there then are now been here seven and a half weeks. So we have to quarantine for two weeks I which was quite a lot you you get tested, you get your room and then you can't leave your rain for two weeks and then we went straight into hustles. We open tonight. So I WANNA ask you about that so much like what's happening here in England two weeks ago. South Korea began enforcing stricter social distancing guidelines to try and stave off a fresh spike in corona virus cases are you on the production stuff worried that you may be out of work again or that they may crackdown on these big gatherings. Gino Ball I mean I've been very hus- on it and keep checking it they've. Hit their peak for two weeks ago. For the last week, they've had under two hundred cases a day and they keep falling falling. So they are so on and I think it's such a drive for the population. They don't want it to affect their lives. So they're so keen on getting rid of it. How are things being done differently there to make theatre going possible. Let's see. They really appreciate that an hold in such high stead. They feel like it's a big part, the economy and it should continue to go ahead. So not we are actually opening with a reduced capacity, but it's still a sixty percents and that's just going to be for the next few weeks. So hopefully, the lockdown rules are eased slightly and then we'll be outer open at full capacity you gab now Andrew Lloyd Webber is the composer of cats the show you're in now and he was before a parliamentary committee yesterday here in the UK warning that the arts industry can't survive without more help from. The British government so are you planning to return to London? Do you think you can survive professionally and financially here June while I woke up this morning and I had the news, the the UK is going into a sort of not a full lockdown stricter rules again, and I had the moment of starting to think maybe this will be my last opening night I don't know. So I really hope I can get back and the show I'm going to be doing also this starts June. So I hope by June I'll be fine pretty sad but it's hard to get excited things until that actually happening. Well the good news is you've got work now. So how long are you planning to stay in South Korea it's until may which is amazing. It's a ten month job which is just incredible. I. Feel. So lucky on absolutely going straight from TESCO's here as mental I haven't actually sought lurking in which has been very fortunate and I do feel guilty because I've got so many friends in this position right now I would love to be but at the same time I've got to enjoy it for what it is ideal. So lucky I can't wait so I. Can Be pretty well, break a leg tonight, all the best of Luck Thomas Inge. Thanks so much for chatting with us. Thank you. Well, if Thomas you have something to celebrate a man from, England might just have the to help Matthew Robson is selling eighteen bottles of. Scotch his father started the collection gifting one bottle on Earth Day Matthew is under strict instructions never to open them until he was of age now he's looking to part with them. He's asking about fifty one thousand dollars for the lot to help put a down payment on his first house in London. I'm Victoria Craig with the marketplace morning report from the BBC World Service.

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#52 - Destigmatizing our Mental Illnesses

SmoshCast

1:08:03 hr | 11 months ago

#52 - Destigmatizing our Mental Illnesses

"Ramble so me saying I'm weird with that's not true. I love hugs. I love high fives handshakes. I love like put an arm around somebody vice versa. It was also me just sort of falling on my sword. I don't WanNa make this a big deal. So Hey Everyone. I'm weird with touch will. Will that be enough for you to not grab my ass at a workplace I'd always dealt with? Adhd as myself in friends not with a relationship and I was like in bed researching it and it was like calling for column exactly how we both fell and we just cried we tell each other and cried some of the things that we say to one another like certain things to stick. I'm like mom used to call this other. Never said that I sat down. We're looking or we stroll. Yeah in order for quality beast. This is crazy is weird being on this side. I feel I feel weirdly naked. 'cause I can usually stare at all the levels and you can't check yourself you just gotTa let go and enjoy AM I. Hey future me and my okay. Am I speaking right? Future the phone. Hello everybody in welcomes yet another smash cast hosting for the first time not come wrapped up. I say we leave it in. Come on joining us as the host for the first time ever is me. Bamyan House and the man that asked me to put on a sulfur. Sofa voice for the smash gas is entirely his fault. Keith leak junior come on indeed come on. Come on. Come on come on. It's it's like smash brothers like Camera Star Fox come out Cam out. Tell me On something just say something. Generally birthday cake should be legal. Come out okay. Voting is important. Come out one will work for the bourgeoisie on speaking of talking about that Joining us for the first time today on this side of the camera can rig yet. Hello come on now. Come come on come on. It's it's crazy being on this side of the other everything at this point you have my own cameras usually see me kind of a little bit you laughing. But you're known as the shredder you you produce you edit. Yes where's the where's the Part is the shoot. Oh you get behind the camera to shoot produce at it. Nice come sounds a little less and like not as bad as Saint Predator. Today's can be called a Predator is the actual term is if you look at my paperwork says Predator so legally I am I am. I don't don't know so that's why goes the shredder? I just don't feel as dirty. I'm turtles village. That was about to say no injuries attack. After pizza we should stop actually watched the The Ninja Turtles. But not the one they were like in like costumes like Berlin early on VHS asset to and I would always look for and then they started doing that animated like one and that was little. I didn't like that so I don't go really. Yeah they were my thing for a long time. Really Yeah I don't know I. I grew up with very specific cartoons Because I lived in Germany for two years of my life so I think the things were accessible there on American. Tv where like sonic the Hedgehog Ninja. Turtles and I had mega man on the game. Boy So those are the big three for me at that. Time is among come on deed. Why did I fire? I liked it so this is a new. There's a new catchphrase for you. Come Out Oh yes indeed so like my friends like she came up with it. I was saying some stuff and it was like years ago. She was like come out and it was almost like you're in church. You just like giving you sound like you know a low like I totally stole it and it is. My now also came up with Komo soap. You guys like start saying come on. Definitely give me my credit. What spurred that change for you if she made it up years ago. Why now because she does? She's not saying this is the thing when you let things go like this something that should be sets. The reason I didn't like say earlier is because I thought it was hers. I thought it was renewed copyright exactly so now it's mine so come come onto quarter you go. That's perfect I mean. Hey this could be huge for you. There are situations of like major websites not renewing in time. Someone snags that domain. They sell a back to a if she ever wants to say that again. You're GONNA be rich. Come on hear me we. We are like so many come on come on loans. That actually made me Bert processing that. Maybe something had to come out of my body to let that information is Kevin. Do you have any kids phrases? I don't think I do I. I don't know I don't. I don't monitor myself that often. I'm not in front of the cameras much so I don't know there's my catchphrase. There's me doing that thing. I I do like punchy thing. Yes actually I do that too. It's okay so it's not. It's my no well you know I hate myself up. I'm going to be like a workout. If I'm going to do something like I gotTa do it. Okay I'm like an animated character me like focusing my Chaka and so it's usually my like amp up you like green on one side math. Let's do it use punch. The Hand Shock Rosette purple like a like a deep purple and like a royal yes like the Purple Dye made by the ancient Venetians for several. You'd like to say that. What the soulful voice that we were talking about like the Purple Dye made by the ancient nations their royalty come on indeed. Exxon ear. Kanter at your biscuits. We're on a different set complete. You'd have a catchphrase though. Usually when you enter the office You very loudly like do like one of those powers go. Hey Baby. I didn't do every time I was not going to be supportive of that. We're going to talk of your come on. Come on come on. Come on come on six. Kevin said you sound like a fighting game character and I'M GONNA have to agree. I know when you say really on that kind of deal like could you set me up with some people? Because I know like games I would love to. I have to work on that for myself. I my friend I have not done any fighting games once you so bad. That's selfish. That's not a Komo that is called selfishness. Oh I just asked you for help. You say I'm trying to help myself. I can't help you until myself. I can't make those connections if I don't have them come. Oh I haven't done any fighting games. I've only done. I've done a lot of like shooting games. I haven't done any. Rpg's what's your one that you've done Definitely a fortnight. I'm they have two modes the battle royale one which is like Ninja all implying that and then there save the world which is like the cooperative story mode and then like the Guy. Right was that you did. Lots of things did a I did a Werewolf but I my main dude is named Dennis and he's been on in the game for like years. I've been going in every other month or every month for like years even before smartish Just so much fun. He's like fun to play because he's dumb as hell but has these little nuggets of wisdom every once in a while and the Doodoo writes the game is actually so so smart and so funny so I don't know I. I love playing that character. Yeah it's fun to do a do Dennis Voice This is my dentist voice and I know that we talked about me not going outside but also I'm surrounded and I need help like everything he says is very like metered measured and he's just. Yeah that's really fun school now. I don't play fortnight enough side. It's a save the world. Say the funny thing is I like play the game originally when it was on. Beta before a battle rail was even a thing and I don't think I ever got to hear my character at that point I saw my characters face and I was like. Oh I'm going to be like rescuing him soon. But it was like Kinda far into the game but now he's like in every single situation so if I went back and restarted my accountant got there. I don't know I. I don't think I've ever heard myself in a game just randomly. Oh No when recording for smash one time grant that thought. Oh look I'm a cop. Yeah Yeah it was. It was a mean guy too big on the old mean man but anyway Mimi Mimi all about it. Tell us more so so you just went on toward please. Yeah always so much fun. It was a great experience. We knew we were going to be exhausted from doing that. But it was very well worth it. We did five cities in a week which was done while I saw that. Like looking at the schedule. It's like Oh cool five cities they're going to hit it like they got. You know a couple of weeks to do it. I saw the schedule. It was like city city city rest city city and I was like you guys You can you. That's what you're saying is like the pinnacle of humanity will. Y'All do some say Shit. We held a beore sit. Advance goes down angrily. We've you know but it was great. I think the one challenge for me was sleeping on the bus. I am like your time to and stuff I do. But that wasn't so tough for me to be honest. I thought I thought that would be the thing really. Wasn't it was just a matter. Of like the bunks. Were stacked three high. Top Bug is usually the least desirable. But I wanted it because it didn't really matter to me and I knew that other people would not want it but like you could feel every bit of the motion if you just hit like a bumpy road like your bed is vibrating and shaking. And there's no lip on the bed to stop you from falling out so like you're like subconsciously flexing core all night to try to like not flip over Dan. You gotTa shredded APPs Now got Oh yeah. Just hidden behind hidden behind a bunch of awesomeness. Yes yes my winter weight extending till spring but yeah it was. It was also a little bit claustrophobic. So I had some link panic attack. He kind of situation not funded looked and felt like a coffin. I saw pictures of it. That was that was terrifying. I'm like I'm not quite as claustrophobic but again like really weird if I if I can't move I can't move if I'm like stuck I'm not scared of small spaces put me in a small space but let me move on fine but you tie me up. Are you bunch me yes. So that's exactly it was. That's exactly what it was because I kept having these thoughts of like. I'm finding a small space until I have the thought of like you're here and you can't not see here into to remedy that they are these like soundproof. Curtains that were in front of every bed that you could pull close so I had to sleep with mine half opened with my hand off my bed to be like look. There's more of a space that you can go into anytime street trigger warning for anybody with Costco. I didn't know I had any issues with that but I'm definitely getting a little anxiety. Really sure getting a little bit. Is that something you often often deal with just like anxiety? Yeah actually yes. Believe it or not so I hate to get like pressure to do stuff and I say no at means no like Jeff. I'm one of those people like you can't like sway me. I won't change like what I'm thinking like. You know what I mean. I'll give it a go out like but usually I know it's a yes or no so sometimes friends will be like. Hey Keith. Let's go do this like Yo man. I'm not in like the right. You know like mental space to do it right now now manages come on just like. Bro Like I need somebody. They're like no no man. I just don't really want to like. I'm not feeling I know if I come and hang out with you I'm GonNa like have a. I'm going to be like the just I'm GonNa make it down in I'm GONNA make it. I'M GONNA make it a down situation. Just come on. Oh my God so now. I'm starting to get like anxiety so my heart my hardest starting to be. I'm starting to sweat starting pace a little bit And then I'll just continue to get pressed and I'll still say no but by the time I'm saying no now I'm being like an astle shed now. I'm like upset but like I'm shaking up because I shouldn't be a shaken as I am but like I'd go there because like Saying doing all that I can to let you know the the way that it's GonNa go and you're not taking my wear for it and for rush rates me to like the teen degree. I can't do like even talking about it right now. I'm starting to feel like it's a thing like I can't social anxiety like I can usually be unlike bit crowds. I can like walk through. You know what I mean. Hey be the life of the party right like I don't know or it's like a small group like you guys are fine. Whatever but when it's like people that I don't know I'm like on the inside. I am losing. I feel I'm losing at one time. I went to meet up with my friends and I listened the Uber of course and I'm in the back. Shell and these are hang with all the time like weekly and I'm just like going through it. I'm like hold on my starting to getting Zaidi was going on like what's going on. This is the first time I really acknowledged for what it was. Because I'm like on my way and I'm like you know they're like y'all Keith. Come they're so excited to see me like I'm so excited to see them. I mean I think at this point just like a year or so ago. And we had been filming. You know. We're like a couple days. The last day went hung out in the back of the Uber. Just like starting to get worked up and I'm like Tam like what did I do like what's going on like. Why is there a chemical imbalance going on what's going on and then I got there and it kind of went away but it didn't go away the way that I thought it would was so weird like it was so weird? Now why am I doing this? Guy's like enough all the time. There's no reason I should have this right now. So then start like it makes me question myself like what's really going on. What's the what's the RUB it? You know that's an interesting thing to bring up if I may ask question about that if you are so like set in your answer of like No. I'm not GonNa do this thing. No I'm not going to do that tonight. Obviously it's annoying when someone keeps pressing you but do you think the anxiety starts to kick in. Is there like a pressure because you don't WanNa disappoint someone or how they're going to view you for not because if their feelings aren't taken into consideration you truly don't care what they think and say no over and over again? It sounds like you're you would otherwise be pretty set me. I want to be there for my friends. They're there for me you know and like honestly. I'm the type of person if I'm like. Oh come on those do something my brands are. GonNa do it with miniature. But I'm not always like that but it's because of like how I know how operate in hello moved maneuver like what you guys get to see me as not Keith. All the time the double that really know me like that really really know me know that I'll be in a corner by myself underneath the table. Though bother me I'll come out and like talk to you what I want to know but at the same time. I'm still like approachable. I'm not like not to be in it like that. You know can relate to that very well. I have dreams all the time better. Sorta like there's a party going on in a place where I live and but I'm not downstairs at the party upstairs on like a really cool room and I can just hear the music here the people and it's like it's nice it's comforting. It's like I don't necessarily want to be down there but it's nice to know that it does here I liked. Isn't that interesting? I feel like I can see like a party setting or like in another room and here and it going on. I'm cool but like when people start to come in. I might sleep sleep. I might be like okay soon as the door closes more. Yup Okay Cool. Is it like a social battery kind of thing like you have like when you go to those events or those moments you have like a little bit of time when you're cool with it like I'm here at school like drains quicker like because I know a lot of people have a social battery so like some people like I. I'm like weirdly. I can just go all night with my social battery. Definitely more life of the Party for sure I can go but I I get my point to. I'll hit my point cool. I'm done like my social batteries drained. I'm going to go home and it just depends on mood day but says some people don't have is intense like how you're saying like with the like being near by but not directly in it right like that that's kind of part of that too so is that are you feeling like that like you have like a social by getting into something. I'll turn it on. And then almost forget sometimes awesome that. I was like not like comfortable and then start making people laugh and now get that crowd go and I'm like okay. Cool out like it's almost like a show sometimes and like that's what I try to pull back away from because I'll find myself getting there and not WanNa be authentic. You know what I mean. It sounds exhausted. If you feel like it's the exhaust so exhausting and just come out and and I don't know like sometimes I'll kill it and then there's other times where she's like okay. Hey everybody how you doing? Okay gotTA GO ALL YEAR. Yeah Yeah Haha by and even when you're having fun it sounds like there's a lot of pressure sometimes. It depends on circumstances. It depends on the people that I don't know are in a room depends on who I'm meeting for the first time. I WanNA light if I'm in the mood to talk it right. I'm so I don't want to say complicated complicated. It's like if tell me. If this is the scenario you relate to. You'RE GONNA hang out one on one with one friend and you're comfortable. Do they check their phone? And they go. Yo Jared and benefit. I WANNA come over and also they wanNA bring their friend Kyle. I'm like it's the worst feeling dead eight that so over the opposite. I'm like if it's like a buddy one on hang out like I feel like we reached that point and he's like Yo. Hey I got some friends. WanNa hang out Mike. Y'All who wired this for me. I'm the type I have this one friend the Hilton by Sunlight. People like whether it be cousins. It'll be like a group of people but then hell like come over by so and so this type of crowd do WanNa go home and I can't because I'm the I want to go home and I'm GonNa go. I'll let piece but your total opposite. Yes complete so. Are you the person that just get stoked when New People are invited? Are you the one that says you know what this party needs? More people and you're the inviter like are you an organizer. Do you like to put things? Yeah I'm an organizer that kind of search I love putting that stuff together. I love being just constantly. It's not even like center of the attention. I I find more entertainment when a party builds having fun and making sure everybody's having fun but see we need people like us because otherwise we wouldn't get out of the house summer. There wouldn't be events without old house. Omar Terms I. This is the thing is so messed up because like I've had certain friends that have like pulled me out of my coverage down but at the same time. My Comfort Zone is my comfort zone. Sounds so terrible. But it's on my time one more time how I like when I go out who I go out with. Who I hang out with. Its life on my time. We're not terrible for setting boundaries cry. I think that's part of the pressure that at least for myself. I feel like if I have to say like I need a me night. Like you don't always have to have an excuse for why you can't hang out. It's like what I just don't want. That's Yeah Right Matthew Scott WHO's Good phone line. Who you guys know. And we've been here a few times now a High Matthew Scott Way back in the day when Shane and I want so random we had a situation. Where like Oh Shane and sterling are going to go do this. Matthew Scott do you WANNA come. And he just went no and then just walked away and it was like the first time I'd ever experienced someone like you don't have to have an excuse to not to be like. Oh Tuesday no I can't. It was incredible and I've learned from it. You can do that and I don't think less of them he's awesome. Okay see that I'm so down for that and if somebody does that like I'm down for that but just imagine having a brand whose pressures you know let's ask angle that never hit on that and that's I never felt pressure. It's a fine balance two. It's like Hey y'all come hang out at school. Don't even worry about them and we got another time not even angry. If you're not you're not ruining my days like my. I would be fun to hang out with you but I'm not changing my emotions off of you showing up so I think man some. I got some like toxic gas France. I mean they're my people's tables but like there's some toxicity going on that we must relieve. Have you ever had a conversation about that with Halle today? I said don't do this. No more no honestly I was like it came out of nowhere is a little bit of I. I've seen something happen. I said Yo. Please don't ask me for this anymore. And they were like. Yo there were like I like. What's wrong unlike please? Let's say you do this all the time. Don't do this. Don't do the do this and I said I know you're thinking I'm going to be upset. I know you think I'm upset and I'm being like like me but I said I know like you being pettiest like buck you're going to like not. WanNa talk to me but I'm just letting you know. Just don't do this out of respect because like I feel so much fresher right. No no means drives me nuts because I let people know how I want to be treated. You know what I mean. I do that in all of my friendships. And sometimes it's harder because people have their own like things that they want you know get out of your time is your time. It's not I think if you communicate that honestly come on come on come communicate that honestly and then someone's still isn't Respecting that that's when it's an issue. Sasha bts on yes that's what got your back on this one. Yeah Okay Kevin you definitely ride I. That's no joke. I could see you doing that. Yeah my best buddies. You guys went to like. Where did you guys go to? You went to Japan Japan. Yeah something go to Japan for like a couple of weeks. I mean my wife was there too. Lacy was there. Yeah it was a situation. Where like Shane and I had gone to Japan the previous year. I want to do that again. Shane what do you think? And he's like. Well it's GonNa be tough with you know smart filming and I've got the goldbergs. I just don't know when it's going to happen and I was like. Aw that's okay and he's like yeah. I also kind of want to maybe try somewhere else this year. We've already done Japan. I'm like that's fair. Go like literally that day when Kevin and I was just like. Hey do you want to go to Japan? Just make sure it's cool. It's cool tickets right now. Which and then like I go home that night and like shit is happening. Yeah Oh no oh. Wow where we're doing. It was so much fun in the adventures. Where crazy absolutely and then like you went off and you did your thing and got lost in the mountain. Oh Yeah Yeah. That was a fun thing. I don't know if I ever talked about it alone. Pontiac basically We started out together in Osaka and I and that was the city that neither of US had been to and it was. It was fun we did that for a couple of days but I started looking around Asaka and I was like man. I didn't know anything about ASAKA in mentally in my mind I was thinking it was more like Kyoto. Had A different that the same age. I was like I went to the soccer and I was like this is cool but like I thought that was going to be something different. Yeah I thought it was going to be rural basically with a lot of classic structures but it was sort of the equivalent of like Oh. I've done Tokyo before New York. Why didn't I go do Osaka Chicago literally? Like oh another big city on the other side of the TACO Yawkey. Let's talk about that. Do Hush puppies nate? These guys added like savory like rice krispies on top so good but after like three days I was like you know what I want that rural experience you already done. Kyodo sounds like kind of I think. I'm just GONNA go do my own thing for like a week hopped on a train went to Kyoto. Found a hotel That was nice but not well known it was still bone sheep and yeah just made my way for a week and got lost on a mountain fucino shine who phones on because I remember I was during the moment that was going on and like was a burner? Plug excited me. Just call you out on the PODCAST. There was one came at the hotel room is like a pocket. Wi Fi in Japan. You gotTa have pocket Wifi unless you have t mobile unless you have this like Cell Service. Wi Fi that you just take around with you or another cell phone that use a hot spot. But that's the best way to travel. So yeah I got Kinda lost amount but even that was fun I was like I was legitimately. I was like a worried like I was like. I worried bud because I was like I was like at home. I was in the bed. 'cause we went. We went over towards Mount Fuji when he was doing that. So I was like in bed with Lacey and I'm just like Oh my think he's okay. I'm sure he's fine. It's unlikely message me back in like an hour. And he said he was on mouth and it's getting dark and you only had a flashlight in two phone. No no no no no. It's not that bad so other metal. Imagine me I'm like okay. Do you hear me then. How many texts me. He's like man. It was fun. You know this is the safest place in the flip in world true to the it was like a big tourist area that like it's the ever seen like a bunch orange gates and like people's Japan photos the thousand orange like gates that people just walked anyway. So it's a big tourist spot in not everybody goes to the top and it was like a quite the hike to get there but there's a path. There's like a path to do it. I'm not like in the Wilderness. Finding my way through this mountain at the only point I ever got kind of nervous I was like Oh man. It's getting dark. Am I gonNA make my way down like an old lady just like walks and I'm like this is literally nothing I'm being? The scary part was like the wildlife. There you're not supposed to mess with so there are all these signs that are like hey don't make eye contact with monkeys they'll Fuck up your life. Same thing with like wild boars. They're GONNA or instead. There's signs that show. Snakes bores Miami's and Hornets. Oh I didn't know about the Hornets but the thing is like it's getting so dark. I'm like am I making inadvertent eye contact with monkeys and just not knowing it to write. I don't know if they're the rob you kind. But I think they'll take your lips and show it to you know. All monkeys are terrifying. Yeah extremely strong jostles muscles but anyway that was fun and we got a lot closer. Yes being buddies and the we would like meet up in little points along the way when we You know throughout the trip. We had dinner in Tokyo and when when God beer there to out in Tokyo Osaka was delayed that first night we rolled in. We got the key two. It was adventure. I'd like that's the thing like okay. So first of all. Let me say this. Never been out of the country believe it or not I don't think yeah come on. I don't think for me I were to go out there like I would have been like with you guys the whole time. You know what I mean like. I WanNa left the way you did. I wouldn't have gone and experienced my own situation. I would have just been like okay. So this is this or drink since I don't WanNa be in a dark. What's come out like I don't want any of that like you're very independent because as as much as I might get social anxiety or you know like I wanna be by myself in those situations all. I'm up under you. What not. Just the thing is i. I've been there once before. Even though they renew cities like I've been in Japan. I the train system is pretty easy to figure out to get a handle on it. I know enough of the language to get by politely. In like you know more than just enough Japanese was like when we were there. I saw just boosting. I was like all that. I don't even know that I would have. You taught me so much. I'd write down everything you say. It was all with a winning. They're saying Gracia's I wanted to say so I'm like I would've is everything I do. Not but it was cool to see you too because you are like you're so conversations with your Japanese to like I can speak politely like I've learned from textbook but you're very much like hey how's it going. Let's have a conversation and that was impressive. I'm I'm not for anybody who might my Japanese isn't fluent. I learned enough to go through and learn. And how it'd be conversational enough and talk. I never practice it to as much as I should. Lingo yells at me every other day threatens me I think the other day threat to stab me. It was GONNA be kids. Somebody teach me something in like Japanese. Like a word or something. All right If you WANNA say like Nice to meet you nice to meet you say has you must stay. Hajime must stay a gymnastics and again. Haji has he may may muster. Has He made my stepmom hut. I e this nice to meet you. Cadillac say come on you said it. Just exhort Oh yeah yeah. That's let's go. Let's let's go come on. Yeah you do that to exalt exert. Come home to Japanese-language podcasts Giddy. But it was cool. It was fast friends when I started working here but I feel like I got to know you a lot more is definitely gotten to know lacey mornings five. Yes she loves it every bit of it too. It was really fun for all of us when we're traveling and doing the whole thing so and then by the end of it that we were just exhausted. I was two hundred ten days travel with. Yeah it was like a twelve day total trip but we the tenth day was just because we kind of weird ebb and flow of time. When you're going travelling distance like that and you just walk constant high so great that also walkable but like I have. My legs were so sore day it was like Jello. Yeah we averaged. I think I said it was like seven to eight miles. A day is what we want. Be Kinda down for that. We lost weight and he lost weight during that definitely sounds good. I'm going on a hike right after Telia. I kept finding restaurants where I would be the only person in there to be run by an elderly couple and they were just like so stoked to see me like this is a good feeling and you know I I love that was so much fun so Japan heads up all of Japan. Actually great come on. Come come on and speak of getting to know you better. There's a bit of a segue but We we sort of talked about something regarding having you on the podcast. Today there was stuff you wanted to talk about. Yeah yeah giving you the I know. That's a sort of a hard segue but I'm already. We've already talked about mental stuff for it so I wanted to bring to the podcast a little bit so not many probably know about me So my name's Kevin. Hey come on the shredder line. The camera helped produce things. You might catch glimpses of me one time. I drank some really nasty fish. You did But one thing about me is I have. Adhd men I have The ADHD. That's the most fun and the sense of so there's three kinds you can have the hyperactive or you can have attentive. And then there's one. That's a combination of both mets me. So I'm hyperactive and inattentive and so yeah I wanted. That was one thing I wanted to discuss at. Some point was like Adhd. And what it's like to be somebody within like what how society looks at it and I think that's awesome because you know we've talked about Zaidi we've talked about my OCD. We'll talk about body issues and and and sexuality and gender identity in all these different things so I think this can only help people button just out of curiosity so for those people that don't know fully. Adhd is beyond what you've just said like textbook wise. What does that look like day to day for? You like how might that affect a? What's an interaction? That might be different for you than it would be different for someone else right so a lot of like adhd especially since. I'm only speaking once again from having like the combination of it happens. It's so weird because it happens in small ways and it's so subtle and a lot of ways that like a lot of people just see as your personality. Is You just that? But then of course me. I'm like I didn't want to do that. I didn't want to be that person I did it. Then you're just like a dry so you don't notice it in the moment you're doing something. So good example is let me. Let me just dredge up some examples. I have assured a lifetime of them. I know I have to bring something with me so to school to work to something I have to go to. Hey remember to bring that object Some cool I need to bring that object with me to bring that object with me bring it set it out. Get it ready. I'm in the morning. I'm getting prepared. I look at the object. I'm GonNa take that with me. Then I look over there and I forget that the object exists and I walk out the door and then I get to the place where Mike object and it's not like everybody does at some point it was your shoot effort that object but this is like a daily occurrence to the point. Where like I'll walk out the door. Shut the door keys. Were in there day after day after day or object with me and I'll walk out the door go back in grab the object. Go out the door. Shut the door lock. It realize left my phone in there. Get my phone leave locked. The door realized crap. I also didn't grab The other object. I needed go grab. It's all exit. My apartment three or four times. Sometimes if it's really bad more like it comes down to like the ability to talk endlessly so that is one of the problems too is like if I've been drinking too much caffeine or haven't slept enough my brain. We'll just start firing. I'll talk incessantly so I've learned over. The years methods like growl myself. House is way because you have a very high pressure position. Like you're you're the shredder. But I mean you're doing three jobs. Where sometimes maybe someone would have difficulty focusing on one yes. So how did you get from point a to hear that's awesome? They'll yeah treadle. I'm sorry no that's fine. Yeah it's it wasn't none of it's ever been easy for those listening and watching. I'm currently UNMEDICATED. I've been UNMEDICATED for since high school and that was on purpose. I just didn't like personally. This is my choice. Anybody listening if medication is your thing and you need it to help you please. By all means tell you for exile fro CDs stuff so same for my personal choice. I didn't like the way it made me feel. I liked the exuberance of my personality. My ability to be just random and all over the place because it also brings a lot of skills and stuff to me but it's Oh here we go. I forgot what the question you ask. so basically. I'm asking point a is for getting stuff. Checking seventeen point is you are shredder. Face Mosh managing a bunch of stuff. That I I don't think someone without I think someone without ag adhd would not be like. Okay well okay actually. Okay thank you now. We're back on track visa. Come on a lot of it has to do with just pure force of will I? It sounds like unmedicated. I don't medicate so a lot of it is pure force of will a lot of it is building up habits so I can never see on. Adhd moment's GonNa happened just one we were talking. I forgot what you asked me so I can never see what happens but I can recognize that it happened and the differences and a lot of adhd is a speaking for myself at least are embarrassed about their adhd moments. And then so they won't. They won't say anything they won't they'll try to nod and smile and like realize they just missed half a conversation and then just like and then try to pick up. I've gotten so good at picking up. The last sentence of someone said and inferring to the entire conversation. A lot of it is just putting in place. Checks checks along the way and being really open about it. Yeah so telling you. Hey I forgot your question. Hey I'm so sorry we you literally just said your name already forgot your name. Sure Hey I know you gave me this detailed. Run down about this thing. I'm sorry my brain I'm eighty and I do it too lacy a lot to like. I in fact I sometimes I find apologizing. Too much really. I'll go to like say something. So non sequitur because my brain just jumped fifteen times and so you said the word. You're like oh I really like tea and the next thing I know is I'm talking about some random thing that my brain leapt to and apologized. Be Like hey sorry. Eighty eight. Adhd moment I just thought of like this one thing. I think we've had moments before where you're like. Oh man and it was just like no. That's what a conversation so a lot of it into to the point where I am now. Force like sheer force of will and those checks and balances so I go shopping. I am an impulse buyer horribly impulse. Money's always been a struggle for me in a lot of things and you know I love Lacey. She takes care of all that at this point. I put my money in her hands. And I'm like you you don't you got this. I got your back healthy budget sheets but at the same time. Like Yeah You you give me my allowance otherwise spend it all right a lot of Rahman Rahman checks and balance. I go to the grocery store. I go impulse buying wooden cart up all the things. I want to the checkout and I stopped myself outside the checkout aisle and I look in the cart and I asked myself what do I need from you? What do I actually? What was an impulse? Buy What was fun to put. Mccarthy is GonNa kill me if I like not kill me actually but will like you know. I shouldn't by sure. Then we'll do that. Lacey and I'll go through the carton move things aside and be like okay. This is what I actually need that stuff. We don't need it I I was just reaching so it. Sounds like you've got a a solid toolbox of you know how to deal with things but built up over time that you learned Sounds like you've got a great partner. Who's also say whether it's ADHD OCD anxiety? What have you? I think people are more forgiving than you expect. Yeah like when you're like sorry. Adhd moments just like. Oh I don't I don't careless talk about the thing again. That's fine and you know my. Ocd stuff the sound is a big deal for me. If someone's got like a water bottle talking I think we should like go over to the other thing. I'll start absent mindedly cracking clicking like it. It really is like it's it's like static like if you're if you think in terms of pictures words all of a sudden it's just taking it over and it literally just sends me to think so. I have to like I'm so sorry man. Can you stop this crunching? That can like I'm so sad. It's not from a place of Lake. It's not from a place of anger. Not from a place of you like hating them for anybody embarrassed when I have to again. I'm that person that will do like crunch it up then like not stop or like. I'm in somebody's car sitting down and they like the seatbelt sound. You know. I don't put on my seat belt which always put on your seatbelt kids but like I won't put it on like Ding Ding Ding being. I'll just be over here. Talk Radio Payment. They may have a problem with Keith. Buddy Labor just put it on like totally tune that out. I have that takes. Its I have a core skill to tune some stuff out that just like everyone else's annoyed what rightfully so. Because I guess like under certain circumstances I would feel annoyed to be triggered. Sure the word is on the big thing that I find for myself. Now to that really helps boost me personally is like exercise of some sort because I have with a hyperactivity spot I can have a lot like a huge boost of energy from nowhere to like calm and quelled the storm in my brain. Sometimes I need to go on a run. I'll go I'll get home and be like you're GONNA run morale if I'm hiking or something. I'm like almond hike up this hill faster than anybody's hike before like I push myself to the limit to pull back a little bit. Just so I don't injure hurt myself exercise. I is also just like a great thing and mentally for everybody. I think sometimes whatever someone deal with mentally there are ways you can sort of shift it to be more like a superpower with that you focus on that and like I'm GonNa push myself with the CDs stuff like focusing really hard on one thing. It's like what if I actually can get away from that noise and focus on this one thing I do. I have to get it done. It's rare that I'm able to do that but when I can. Just it's a superpower but I think it's so I so appreciate you talking about this because you know you and I had a conversation about it maybe like a year ago they have something that you deal with some of my best friends growing up had. Adhd and I saw them through different phase of being Medicaid. And all that stuff. But even knowing that I didn't know the daily struggle to me it was just like. Oh that just means. You're hyper right. God bless a lot of the joke everybody makes about it is like Oh sorry Oh square and then the other part is like people will be like I must be adhd too. I forgot. It's like manning comes out and so many small ways it's this is me like because I I was totally out of line so like like you said in school in different things you know. You have a hyper Kid Psycho. You you need medicine that would be a thing that was said so. I have this cousin who lives with my grim he. I I'm pretty sure he. Adhd and if he had it he had like a like a bright he was kind of like beyond just helm having energy. He was kind of just like a bad kid too. Yeah and I remember. I said that to you know I'm like six years younger. You know so but he was just like off off the walls in house like I said you need medicine. You need to take medicine. My grandma came down got wrestler social now with this anymore but she came down she said. Don't you ever say that? She said I have what he has. you know what I mean. She was like I didn't know that she heard me upstairs but she said I had the same thing. I have to take medication. Don't you ever say that again? And this is the most gentle Calm Lake. You would never think but just just for her to say that to come down in and put me and come. Oh and put me on my place and to say I have what he has. I take medication I was like. Oh that's so that's why then look at a whole different way because that's not cool? You're conditioned to say things like that. It's just it just becomes something that just comes out like same with those CD things. Like someone's like Oh sorry. I'm so can you actually do this that I do? I but I also get it. I'm like I don't like it. It's not okay. It's not okay but it's something that's been said for so long so offhandedly that if someone says it it's it's just a product of them hearing it so they have to be called at one time billing. Hey the sexually not cool. And then they're like Oh my God crap. I never even thought about him. Being not cool true. It's just a thing that you say like come up so I definitely have a lot of forgiveness there but I also know that like the form of OCD. I have doesn't like ruined my life on a daily basis like I know they're different levels to all of these things if it affected your every waking moment life agony and then someone's like I'm so. Adhd then IV Piss. But like you know I guess it's more of a luxury that I can be like. Hey actually the thing he said. Yeah exactly and that's what I was. GonNa say too is you. I mean with your OCD. Like you seem to really champion through a lot of that as long as a lot better over the years over the years when you first got here you were like really where with touch. I do know that a lot more like it was just like certain things so funny story about and I appreciate you saying that Funny Story About Bat. I got off of my meds like cold Turkey when I started at smoshing and I also went through a break up at the same time. Anxiety was just like biking so hard. It wasn't even the stuff so much and it was really hard and it was interesting being in this new environment. Where like I had come from a place of like TV and film. That was very structured. Very like this is the way things done this and I had never done before and it looks like that from the outside but in reality it's like you know everything's crazy in that people. Were trying to slate but other people on sadder still like talking all that stuff and I was literally like what what is this. This is so weird like in my mind. I I'd be like wow. This is Kinda unprofessional. But it's just no it's a different profession but point being you know we were doing Summer Games and people were weird with like touch with me like there are a couple of different people that worked here and I'M NOT GONNA call specific names but they'd be like ha ha like nipple tweak like you know you Gotta. Watch out for that duty might smack your but I was napping one time in like someone like trout legged slap between it and so. Let's those are all things that are not okay but I'm so aware of being that. Ocd Guy that calls out everything that I was just like. You know it'll be a lot easier for people to stomach. Hey I'm actually weird with touch not be like hi. Hr You have employee that's worked for years. The grabbed my nipples. Like what the fuck like in. What possible places that okay so me saying? I'm weird with this I hugs. I Love High Fives Handshakes Love. Like put an arm around somebody. Vice verse has learned that Star but it was just it was also just sort of falling on my sword and be like. I don't WanNa make this a big deal. So hey everyone. I'm weird with touch. Will that be enough for you to grab my ass at a workplace which is let grab? That's not that's not cool that you had to know that in place it's Weird. That's yeah that's that's grossly inappropriate. Thank you yeah so so. Yeah just for the record. I'm not weird with touch unless it's like a high nipples like fuck that. I really thought you were touch. Started going around. Just don't do late Guy. He got it again way. You know no sir no unless you want for the record nice. Don't Nichols Ellen. No no no. I'M NOT GONNA call name. It was just a matter of like I do look I touch do say I do touch but I. I hope if I ever touched you never know again. I love that. They love hugs. I love stuff like that. That's why we so sad for me to be careful everyone Damien doesn't like so like I was like okay so I just got ducks. I love us. You know I get everybody. I'm like Yo what's up. So it's like okay. Damian's can't give a hug to our members I appreciate. I mean in in in attempts to not get a big deal I also I guess made it a much bigger deal of like that. Nobody touched this session. Nobody will know more ads. Let me come on Office. Like someone won't grab your chest but at the same time you can never be hugged but now. I mean we're here in it's been interesting for me to like confront all these things that like first impressions whether it was like starting back mythical or like way back in the day when people bring something up. I'll be like Oh my God like I don't even recognize that version of me that I was like that was an issue for people. Even you saying that now like Oh yeah. We all knew not to touch you. I was just like wait. Oh God that was a thing. That's crazy like know and it's sometimes hard to break those conceptions but all you can do is You know show people otherwise right exactly. That was nice. Come on come on. Come on come on. Ads B musty. Kevin Davis Kevin Awesome. Y'All that was a thanks for. Is there anything else you WANNA say to the people out there? Who are watching who maybe have. Adhd advice from like a sen- pie okay. Here's my advice. Might get a little emotional for some people while you're Adhd is a part of you. You're not you're adhd you are an awesome person. It gives you lots of skills and can help you with your personality in your head. You're probably GONNA hate yourself in question everything that you do and everybody hates you for it. It's not true and you can do it and just work hard and know that You're not the only one out there. Come through that so nice I'm getting a little teary is also a final shout out. Check out if you if you guys WanNa find other like-minded people with adhd in in here other stories and how to work through stuff There's a Adhd sub. Read it that I frequent a lot and they talk. They'll say like I had a problem with this today or man. Adhd is is really getting me with this or hey. I got medication today and I'm feeling better or hey how you guys were through this issue. The ADHD is amazing. That's awesome. It's no matter what you deal. It's always nice to read something or hear something can go there. I am Yes that was. That was a moment in my life. Where I legitimately is maybe kind of bring it back a little too much lacey and I when we were fresh on in our relationship when we first started dating we had some issues and I had never been in a long term relationship with somebody so I had never dealt with eighty I'd always dealt with. Adhd myself and friends not with a relationship we had issues it was a rocky start and for awhile. We didn't always going on. It was like was it. Her was it me I was hurt. She was hurt as like for me. I was like wait a minute. I completely forget I have. Adhd and I researched it. And I like I was with her. I remember like we were. We had a little argument and I was like in bed researching it. It had like point a point. Vive like who the person who has. Adhd probably feels like this and the relationship and the person with eighty-eight who doesn't and is dealing with it feels like this and it was like a column for column exactly how we just cried. We tell each other and cried and it was saying that kind of stuff acknowledging. It'd be like you know this is me and that was a a road to like working on a lot of stuff in our relationship in life. So that's incredible. Man held each other and cry. Yeah come on. I don't know what he's I'm still not entirely sure. What is that's one man? I love you guys. I Love Graham. I respect the hell out of you for coming down here and talking about it because you know we get comments all the time about like. Thank you for talking about this. You know. It's a nice little off. Shoot from the goofy comedy. Personality may stuff that we usually do. We can do even a little bit of good. I still get messages about the Body image podcast. Shane talking about it. They're like they're like. I've never guys talk about this before. I've never heard men say these things. And it was like Whoa. That was a that was a really great moment nodding my head constantly. Hell you man my neck heard I gotta I gotTa look at Dot Com. Check it out. But it's it's similar to this where we talk about insecurities but it's Shane opening up about You know his own issues with his body and I was like. Oh Hey actually like me too. And then you know so many people regardless of gender. But you know there's a stigma around men specifically don't CARE CARE. It doesn't matter anything like in this. Probably something somebody said to you. Brought to your attention or like all of that stuff. Those things stick. I actually just had to tell my mom. So this is funny. She had says like Chris. Growing on my Eiser. Big Right so I really like big expressive eyes and I mean I had to grow into a little bit but beyond that I just remember whenever my mom or like my sisters like Oh my God you're is sticks wide your eyes and that's the that's the thing so like you know me and my mom we're talking we're on the phone. She says something about my. I said you know mom I said used to talk about my is alive and I said it really messed me up. Like knives matete different but then she was like she said I love your is to watch how you say it's not right and say it's how you said because. I thought that I had to like the most gigantic creates a combo up complex. He said I love your eyes and when she said that I'm like what did you just want? She said that I couldn't believe it. I was like but you said it like look at those is like those men a messed me up good for you for saying something about it and then she got to clarify like the conversation. Communication happened so important. I forget even what it was about but it was something almost exactly like that with my mom like a couple of months ago it was like. Hey. I don't know if you know this. You always used to say things this way and you kind of that way right now. This is what that meant to me so like. It's funny how. It doesn't always have to be an argument but it's like hey just see no lifeless you doing. This is what you're doing and it sucks that we have to wait for adults sort of because it's like they're probably not going to have another. Katie. Give it another shot. It's just as a kid so you just dealing with it. You know you're just you're you're you're learning like social society all that stuff yeah processing so beyond anything like why would you say something that you're processing like where does this come from? And then you hear it the same way. It's like Oh this because of this because I messed up. Oh you like my eyes wide you say so much dislike even now like you can look back and be like. Oh it's coming from a place of playful love but when you're a category of pipe we don't have. You don't have context. You GotTa Watch that you have to watch that I think especially in the black community play so or with each other like a black person rose session like sometimes it's like fun and sweet and it's just like ha ha but some of the things that we say to we would say to one another like even my mom like she's the best mama world but sometimes it's just certain things that just stick and now the it stuck sure I mean it stick. My mom used to call us said funny looking. Oh Mom just don't have the perspective but like as an adult can say that to your friends so like you know. It's you teach you teach kids language and you teach them social interaction and all that stuff like yeah. We don't have a basis yet sarcasm. Playful look like the most horrible ours and my mom is a reason that I'm here. She of course she gives me the utmost of it. Anyone who's ever listened to you talk about your mom knows that you have nothing but amazing. Look for her. She just messed up a couple times. Who's going to be perfect at the same thing? I love my mom she. She was a wonderful mom. But I'm just saying like you still have those conversations. It's all good. I love her. Call her right soon as we get done with this come. Oh so actually. I had a question to ask you do. When is this airing You guys are not quite in Australia yet. Oh I can't wait though. Yeah Right Ori we going to Australia. No that's not going to eat a Koala Quali- Roy on beast. I'M GONNA go up to a tree and just key. And if one drops down I'm going to catch it and then nine it in an eight so toddler on me because on ninety where. I'm so sorry everyone in Australia for doing that. Voice come oh they can cut it out on me. I'm not cutting it out Kevin. Don't cut this out. I know for a fact I can't. That's not a real Australian accent that actually also comes from Matthew Scott. It was me and Shane's serve random days where he had this character that was like a supposed to be an Australian model and it was based off of him and his brother watching Australia's next top model and there was like one judge that said something to the effect. I'm just I'm going into a friend's memory here but like is like you have to do the beast part if you don't do the beast policy won't get the job. And so he just took that accent in like bastardized and then shared it with us. And that's why Shane in Iras like or nor but in reality shows like we don't talk like that he he did a character based off that that Like a crazy dancer. Something to August eighth is that clip. I was beside myself with how crazy. That was incredible. That dance was insane anyway. Bs Smashed Failure Disner. Okay Australia come off first before. I've never been or Australia. I Am Very excited for multiple reasons. I learned this about me onto her. My favorite part about traveling trying new foods and things. I wouldn't normally get anywhere else known as all excited to see what. Australia has to offer food wise. I can't wait to try. Like local specialties. And things like that. Because that's part of how you experience and share culture. Food is so important even if you don't speak the same language you connect through food and that's a big deal to me what I actually don't know Austrailia shrimp on the Barbie. That's all I know. Hustle feel like maybe that's not even real that's all I know or what outback steakhouse has told you before Aluminum Acts Foster's lager into a cannon vegemite and put it on a Bloomberg. No that's a easy to eat it Australia. Oh I actually can't wait Here's my thing about that. I know that like Kangaroos are farm raised sometimes for food so I was like. Oh maybe if given the opportunity I'll try that but also the wildfires have been insane and so much life was lost so I don't know the situation there anymore. I don't WanNa be the guy that eats the last kangaroo. I've I wanted to just like you'd be as conservative as possible with my food choices there. Because I don't like your. How do anything inhumane or you know? None not the time come on. Why was that not to do anything and humane? Oh God there was never a right time to eat a kangaroo. They're just like they're jumpy. Cows Lake jumping capping off their buffalo showing. No I'm not going to find a track down alive. Kangaroo like running beside me stop up. They like stay like they Balance on their tails tails their little things. Lord come on sorry detail what. That's all the time we know for Australia. It's cool because we're doing a SUPERNOVA On both Gold Coast and Melbourne. I know the days in between there. We actually have like a fair amount of time to just sort of do nothing so as kind considering doing my own thing again and kind of getting lost in a country where the best place don't get lost in though they have deadly deadly drought myself on top of Irish Rock and be like figure it out go to like Texas. Come home going to have to cut. Is that a real song. Not Theme Song in Texas the Texas the Texas teams plays whenever Texan wakes up living dystopia in future. Make up one morning. We're not listen own out from that. We actually love you come on. I drove through Texas. It took me fifteen hours. It was amazing. Oh Yeah I drove through. Unfortunately the top part of Texas. Which is a bummer. Yes that's why I don't drive come on. I drove out from Georgia. The first time coming out here in Texas was the bulk of the drive and it was it was like you know you hit Alabama. Is these beautiful fields in Louisiana swamp land and all this well look America Metaksa and then it was like whatever force was making America like got a phone call like at least with the top of Texas. Texas is beautiful. But like I'm talking about you. Listen to the sound of wind for thirty six hours. You get to see some of those oil oil for those little drinking birds. Yeah they're drinking better. It actually make that oil derricks oil derricks. Oh by the way it's up Brennan. Brennan is taking over for me right now. Brennan High Brennan is a twin brother. He with the better hair. The better beard better head. Better be really quick. Go to smush Julia wait. So where did you say you guys? We'RE GONNA GO WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SUPERNOVA. Which is a convention. I didn't actually. I thought that was like Oh. That's Convention Center. The Oh no. It's not a convention center. It's it's like it's like saying I'm doing comecon calm-calming but Supernova Gold Coast and Melbourne okay. Well you'd say that Here's the thing that I've said. I've said Melbourne many times. And everybody goes if you were from there. Actually the way they say it is Melbourne. And I'm like well I'm also not speaking with the accident right now so I will say Melbourne's say people like Keith. Don't have to ask me when I'm talking about it. Who Speak American English? And that's who I'm talking to. Will you learn something new everyday but this is the one time someone has directed me for that so now I just assumed you know what you're talking about. You said it was such confidence. That's the thing though sometimes people actually if you order that thing in a restaurant. Scuola for Pol Pot on burn and I'm like yeah but if I have to ask about that it's flipping out. I know it's so much easier to just say it how I say it like. Don't you know those people who were like? Yes I'm GonNa Talion restaurant and order the spy gate the hassle. Maybe you're saying right baby you hate. I hate it so gonNA be Austrailia. Doing those and you guys still have. Tickets for sale rate was promoting Australia. Right now I think we do all the pro pro definitely come see us in Supernova You know and also in in Melbourne Melbourne Goco. So also we get a lot of messages when people say like on man. Why didn't you come here? You know why not come to Adelaide. No one comes to add like This is the first time that we have a group as a group. At least for as long as I've been here are going out of the country So you know you can't hit everywhere. All at once especially because Australia is a continent. I'll just say that like you know if this does well that opens up the door to like possibilities for other things in the future. This is us like dipping our toes in the water and people are like. Why aren't you scuba diving? It's like well we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA dip the toes. I just a little toes. Moist will tell of excited for it if you have any recommendations for what to do Be As a group or if I go off so low or if you know. Australia's more dangerous than you think don't go off Solo. Tell me save my life comment comment on this video as well if you guys have any suggestions for Australia. Where's that one that one building that everybody goes to take pictures of City Opera House? Yeah it's right on the wheel you guys are GonNa go check it out. I don't know it's I know we're not going to Sydney so but it's like do I go do that do i. Also Yeah we've got a few days in between so we sort of bookend our trip. We're doing like SUPERNOVA. I forget if Melbourne Melbourne or Gold Coast is I but one of them and then we've got several days then a different one. That's why I KINDA WANNA go off on my own but also thinking of asking for like a few extra days and being like hey when we're leaving since I'm so close to Japan can. I just hit up Kyoto for like. That's a legitimate. If you're going to fly across the Pacific Ocean you gotta gotta get your really close. We Are we going with Australia. Can Go with your Damian. This is your call your call the producer King of smart chat all Komo all hail like or as a boss you guys have been doing the canceled segment. Oh yeah and I want in on that. Oh Okay we should do the cancel. The Keith of you have been party to this cancel. Lay It on me. We're basically cancelling somebody. What's what's the thing. We're canceling the week. And it's not necessarily like this person's bad but it's like I'm cancelling When you're waiting too long for your Post mates order and then they cancel on you. I'm canceling that like it's just something you're done with this week. So what do you? What do you cancelling Keith? Since we're talking about orders I am. Canceling Uber eats make all orders under fifteen dollars. Three dollars of three dollar delivery fee. What is up with that? That is not a Komo moment that is i. Don't do that if it says one. Forty nine for something. It should be one forty nine if it's under fifteen dollars just because under fifteen dollars doesn't mean it should be three three dollar delivery fee. Komo is that do you have the unlimited service emit? You still have to pay on top. See that's the other part about it. I have to pay that too like if I'm paying this. Nfl There's no reason why she gets fifty dollars just to spend a dollar leg. That's crazy that come on. I do I do the post mates unlimited but it's the same thing if it's under fifteen dollars delivery fee but so many restaurants figure that out and they're like we only offered ten kinds of sandwiches each sandwiches. Fourteen ninety five sandwiches baggage ships. Those ships chips So that is cancel order some stuff tonight. Come on shout out to each individual delivery services please hit a sponsorship yet Kevin. What's cancelled you're excited. Cancel something Yes yes. I WANNA cancel having to untie shoes all the way to take them off like I. I'm all about like slipping shoes on slipping mafia-like shoelaces cool when you time. The right way but come on my feet and you've got to take up all the way I feel like I want my shoes off now. I don't want to have to try. And then you have the time all the way back up. You know what you should do so you lay soma like you know like some like regular but you just put the shoestrings on the inside instead of like tying so when they go on the inside from the outside. They're already in your shoes and you just like put your foot on. I don't hire them all the way then. After that time. I got some nice boots with Damian when I was in Japan screw them. They're amazing but like sometimes like dawn. Deal with cancel taking shoes off with all the way laces. I got it right. Just come to my house and teach me Lena Place I do it learn him something a man. I didn't know what canceling anything this week. Nothing too big but I think I wanNA cancel thrift stores. That don't wash the clothing enough. They never lie not they claim they like do some something right. Do something like that but they never wash it. They're not the vending. No money on now. They need to have an industrial size washer in the back and do that because we went through shopping in I think Portland or Seattle onto her and I found like four clothing thesis. That I really liked was really good. Quality Jacket from a good brand is and this is awesome but then I smelled it and it had that like mildew like yeah teenager. Who hasn't figured out yet It's I don't think I don't believe Thrift stores actually like some stuff on there to make it smell better and do they just breeze it. I'm cancelling it because you don't know if that comes out like sometimes with that kind of smell it might not come out with a wash so if I knew for a fact they wash this and it didn't come out you know. Then it'd be fine but I I didn't know so I didn't get washed it or I didn't buy it. You didn't buy no way to come out. Scotto will you guys? This has been a lot of fun. I had never done a podcast together. Weird Kevin is on the side for the first time and therefore also come on like a lot. Thank you for sharing to thank you. Thank you platforming. Thank you for sharing normally. Do you enjoy this please. Rate set by stars wherever? You're listening to this. Podcast really does help us out. You can of course listen to us on spotify and itunes on Wednesday when this comes out otherwise. The video version is available on Friday on Youtube Channel Dot com slash slash cast guys. Until then I hope you have a fantastic weekend. We'll catch you next time. Come on. This is beautiful. 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#45 - The Best of SmoshCast 2019

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#45 - The Best of SmoshCast 2019

"The ramble well. Hello everyone happy New Year from the smash cast guys. Since it's now twenty twenty. I figure why not. Why don't we just talk about twenty? Nineteen I had. This is our first year ever doing doing a podcast. We did forty four episodes in total. I guess we have maybe around three thousand minutes of audio or fifty hours of just talking about about Absolutely nothing and I just want to say thank you guys so much for being there Through all this nonsense The podcast have been really fun to to do. It learned a lot about each other a hope that you guys learned a little something about us and something about the world. Let's take this moment to look back at some. Some of our favorite moments from the first year of the Smash Castle will start at the very beginning and work our way through chronologically. So this first clip that I want to show you guys guys. Is Courtney myself in Damian and we're talking about Sexuality and Courtney has a little surprise for US Lilly saying she tweeted and it's the same thing it's like you said with John Wayne. You're like Oh what do you think nineteen seventies cowboy. Of course. Yeah that kind of opinions Lilly. Singh tweeted I'm a woman I'm colored. I'm bisexual and these are my powers on an apparently that was her coming out. We've been new like I. I was like wait. I thought everybody knew that. Yeah Yeah I mean I thought it was a thing I mean you can never assume and you know you never WanNa try obviously. That's that's one other thing you you never want to out. Somebody inquired unless unless they've clearly outed themselves. Yeah especially if you get it wrong. Yeah Yeah Yeah like you know how lily sings by sexual on like didn't even say anything. Yeah Bhaskar Wuxi Daisies. I think it's super important. It's not just it's not just like sexuality but also also people that struggle with with mental health. Yeah struggle normalizing. Those things is so important and like that's that's is a thing to like. I am not straight. That's something that I only recently started working through and I'm still kind of working through it but it is something that I've felt is important for people to know because it's like let's normal. I like it's so important to formalize things that people people are insecure about like. I'm still a little insecure about like what exactly it is like. I remember when I didn't even realize it and and literally until a couple years ago when I started because I grew up in the Mormon Church and when I was twelve I realized that Mormons ends hated them. Not I won't generalize but when property the gay marriage lake proposition with the thing a lot of friends in the Mormon church were like gays are bad. Had this terrible thing and I was like Whoa and I left. The church at that. Point wasn't until I was twenty one fish that I was like all my life. I've Kinda wondered in like the fact that I kept wondering it wasn't like a like an naive like am I gay. I don't know it was definitely like Oh man. This is something that I need to relax and like think about because for so long I was like yeah. I'm straight that's what I am because that's what I thought what I was supposed to be but like there was so many conflicting things with that. I don't know if I'm bisexual but because that's kind of limiting gender because I've definitely found the people who are gender fluid like attractive just. I think I don't know everybody's hot I don't know man like and I remember the first people I told were it was definitely matt. Rob and Joe Baretto were there. It was a defining yet Christmas party and that was the first times yeah. That was the first time I'd set out loud that I don't think I'm straight and for the longest time I was just thinking thing about it and kind of like let those walls down that I'd had up for a long time. I'm high in the face right now. I fully support everything. You're saying coolest Louis thing is there might be a kid or anybody out there right now. Who really needs to hear this? Yes coming from you and it feels very much like a fluid thing and I also I think I have a weird type two like because okay when I was a kid. My mom had a lot of drawing books and like Comic Book Books Including this wonder woman one that I always loved really loved the artwork and everything and so literally a couple of months ago. I message my mom when I was a K.. Like do you have that wonderful book Super Bowl One. I'd love to like add to my collection. I've drawing books. I have a guardians of the galaxy book like for my coffee table and she sent it to me and I'm going through it and it's just really really sexually charged drawings of women and I was like. Oh okay that's why I like looking at that. Basically my type is wonder woman. Just I eh spending and but before words Before fans get weird. I just like something I realized through all this just now is like Olivia kissed and videos. Calm down we definitely those for us. I'm not like Olivia Shipping Shipping Court. TV shipping is fun thing but like not attract anybody. Mari Sarah Nobody I like not. It's not like oh every girl has a potential for me like I mean that's a general. It's the same thing. It's the same all night every girl that interacts date our first video together. Our first video together speed drying like people were immediately since I was this new girl and a video making sexual comments like it's just it's just so happens but yeah I just wanted to disclose that like Olivia. I love you enter. You need but like I'm not any like that. Sorry Babe the but yeah I applaud you for talking about about this. I really do because I think you like. You said whatever whatever. The thing is whether it's whether it's mental health whether it's sexuality whether it's gender whether it's anything like things are only quote unquote weird because we don't talk about them and that's why like when I get the opportunity. I talk about mental health stuff all the time. Anxiety panic attacks paranoia like all that good stuff I deal with that I do. And it's only weird because it's not talked about and that's a it's not your job to talk about it necessarily but I think you have done in can-do a lot of good because there's someone out there right now who's just like probably balling being like. Oh my God. That's me and it's like I'm I'm proud and I think you bring up a good point where where you said I don't know what I And that's okay. That's okay I think I think people feel such a need to adhere hear themselves to a specific identity that they might not actually completely people need to label things but like we should probably stop doing not so much there is. There is some safety in that. In saying I don't know but I'm figuring it out and especially young people like yeah. Everybody's everybody's everybody's had the thought before like am I. Yeah everyone is. What is this you know? I didn't know it was until like sixteen because it's not something that was talked about on the Internet that much at that time it's like You GotTa talk about that stuff. People didn't know I was diagnosed. OCD Two years ago. Oh and I had no idea that what I was experiencing was OCD. Because I just took that. I've got to organize stuff and check this doorknob six times that is OCD. And it's just like Oh yeah no it's the way my mind works and how I deal with things which leads to anxiety Yada Yada Yada and I've got to say you know. Even though this doesn't have to do with sexuality I can understand the comfort in finding a label You know even if it's better to maybe not label seeking like figure things out you know finding out that I had a word for what I was feeling. I could be like I have OCD. Yes I'm by. Got It Chad Don like you know. I definitely like the most secure way to say it for me is just being like. Oh Yeah I'm not straight like that's just and I could be panned sexual could just be bisexual. I Dunno whatever but like I just realized in these last couple years and it was like right as I was in a new relationship that I was like. Wow I I remember I was. I was coming out to certain people but like my stomach corral just so loud I hope you all heard that Some people I didn't go about it the right way like I thought people knew already and they big. Oh I didn't know that and like I definitely. We had some people that probably got upset when they found out. Like there's and you never you'll never really know who's tolerant of that stuff like there's I didn't know that I had a home Homophobic person and my friends circle like you. Don't you'll never know and sometimes yeah you'll just you will never find that out but yeah it's it's crazy crazy man. It's been a journey. Sometimes people need time to like you know. Maybe if they were like oh I don't know but like I think I said this in my stream. Recently somebody was just like I came out to some friends and my best friend won't talk to me now and I I said like unfortunately try your best to be the bigger person and forgive them for for yourself for now to try to like. Save yourself a lot of grief because they might not have never actually been exposed to anybody that they knew was gay before and then once they do some thinking they'll be like Oh. That person is still that person holy crap and so then two weeks later in the stream. They're like Yo. My best friend reached out and apologized. And our hanging out there. You Go. That person awesome. That was upset when they found out they didn't they didn't tell me they are upset. I could just very much tell. And then they basically told me that they are homophobic later. I think it's okay okay to have people around like don't just keep people with the same opinions as you. I mean it's good to have those people but it's also good. I mean homophobia has terrible we. Yeah we really welcome around you know. Just be tolerant be accepting whatever like not whatever but you know what. I mean. That person's still in my life. I they don't hate them. It's you know like we are all here on our own path. So yeah well thank you so much for sharing that. Coordinate that takes And I think you know for for some of the people listening. I think that's something that that needs to be. Heard I I'm I'm always a big supporter of of you. Know getting these sorts of problems out here. And that's podcasts. Are really good for because you know everyone. Struggling with something something and It's nice to hear that that other people have these things going on With with my ex-pm she was A. She's a cancer survivor and she always kept it secret. And and when we were together I told her like this is this is you can help people by by talking about raising awareness totally and when she added sorta lasts scare she she then started talking about it more and talking about it more and be more involved in the community and it really helps people What what's a sweet sweet clip? Okay okay so this next one is episode five. Where it's Courtney Myself and Matt Pat from the Game Theorists and Matt Pat Brings Up One one of the worst ideas that was ever pitched to smash back in the defy days. Enjoy so did you have a hand in like the strategy strategy at all or like like When when we brought in like I just want to know in depth a little bit more secret role behind the scenes? I know you're the agent. Codey banks of every union weird is oldest. Your culture references are gold. Yeah no it's it's funny to hear you talk about like defy the higher ups that defy wanting to fast forward that process kind of like just jam it down their throats shoehorn it in in as quick as possible because this was the same group of people who are also promoting the idea of doing black smash God's ironically wanting into do black smart. Yep which I which. I wasn't sure it had you had those conversations with the team. Clearly based on your reaction there is somebody somebody. There's somebody higher up not going to say their name for many years for many years. One of their story one of their dream projects was to create black smash which what they wanted to do was Cast a group of black people to create Shall we say Bourbon comedy. They're like well you know there's this whole other audience out there so we just need to create black smoke. I mean basically the thought process of this person in the meetings that we were having was well. We have this back catalogue of funny scripts so if we just you know change out the two white dudes for different demographics we have tons of new verticals and you basically you reuse the same scripts but just kind of like mix it up a little and it was I and it was his first. SPINOFF was always going to be black smash followed by female SMA- case might like it was bad. Yeah yeah that's vetted that is truly spilling the tea every every time they brought it up and that's really funny. I've never mentioned. I've never mentioned the whole Black Smash thing program the smart not mention. Yeah but every time they brought it up it was just like no no. And here's another weird fricken reference. A hair spray. How there's like Negro Day on the dancing show and I'm sorry that's rough but like it's just that I get that vibe when I hear about what the they were trying to and and and the thing was you know the first time because because I'm this young guy who has only been working at this company for about a year but I'm like the guy who understands stands youtube? I'm the guy who has been able to build up my own channel in the background like I was the representative of like the digital video ecosystem and optimization right and so I'm in these rooms with all these traditional media guys who had been working in TV for years and had you know decent levels of success there you know suddenly now like let's figure out ways to capitalize off of these these brands that we have in this and that and he tosses out this idea and at first like everyone you know me and the couple of other people in the room are like. Oh that's you know. That's an idea. But really an but they were so serious about it. Was the thing like they legitimately. I thought that there was no problem with it and that was totally fine and of of course at that point. The conversation fundamentally shifts to. Oh no you're taking like absolutely not do not do this. This is a horrific for so many reasons. They wanted to call it that like actually well there was always just the sort of yeah the working title title and by the way. There's nothing wrong with you. Know to to black dudes doing comedy. Obviously key and Peele was probably one of the greatest sketches ever made. But it's it wasn't for the sake of representation. It was for the sake of of like. Let's just get this other thing thing going to appeal to this other group because we don't believe that Two white guys are going to be enjoyed by black people this is. This is actually why I'm shocked to hear that. You also know this because to me when that was brought up in the room like this is I can't believe that someone would would actually legitimately think of this as an idea and so now to hear that it was also brought up to you and you also had to shoot it down multiple times. It's unbelievable leave. Aboard Mir a kind of became a running joke About this person. Because it's just ludicrous. Right it doesn't make any sense. So there you go the I I do. Remember the other joke that he would toss out when it came to like some of the other verticals and obviously bring up like gay smash. LGBT smash. That's a whole new community. The joke was though that they already had gay smash because you and Anthony were already. Yeah did they did they toss joke your way probably okay. So we have full transparency here. What was being he said? Behind the C-. Yes thank you gotTa keep those fan fictions going assure. Wow Aw that was a clip. Well before we get to the next clip. Let's take a quick break. 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E. so this next clip Comes from episode ten and it's with myself shine our writer Monica and they discuss a scrapped. Idea called tender for hotdogs. Enjoy Monica few pitches. She was like this sketch. This sketch and tinder for hotdogs. Just go like this is obviously a great idea. Viable see so yes so then I pitched it at a pitch meeting and no one gave it the respect. It deserves hold on. I'm pretty sure I said something akin to yes. I mean. Do Tinder Camman first of all beyond a sketch. It's a good idea. It's just a generally genuinely good product. You want a hotdog. But there's many types of hot dogs the world. Our economy doesn't cater to differentiating between hotdog tastes and for being like for hot dogs being such an American food. Would we don't like we don't put it in the spotlight enough. We really don't true and it's like sometimes you in the mood for a Nathan's sometimes here in the mood for Hebrew national but so you're talking about different brands. We're going going beyond that tender for hot dogs from the simplicity fanatic on your open. Go on you're getting like do you want to do you want. Do you want beef Turkey. Though the these are all the different types of dogs Biljana profile. What do you want You know I it gets type of bonds as you get older the extremes. You know anyone in that. It's close by. I want to know that I don't have to travel more close and you can. You can specify on your bio. It's like dogs eggs under under six inches. Swipe swipe slightly less absurd really specific with it. This podcast is brought brought to you by Tinder Vermont. Great it's a great idea. It's it's funny but it's also good. I I have to admit I tried to write it. No Way I think Finnerty like left an hour to write it so hard. I got six lines in and hasn't I'm just GonNa work on something else. I hate this. Just Him Hynde me the Raines and I'll give you an autobiography on tender for dogs. You're going to write tender for dogs. Is that what. You're saying autobiography. So from the point of view is I'll give you. I'll give you a AH book the size of the Odyssey. Well for tender hotdogs. You know what I think I think if enough listeners give us a five star review with the review you saying make tinder for hot dogs. Then we'll going to. We're going to have to make dogs if we get down and get enough five star reviews and if you you guys go to the Youtube and and like it and subscribe yes if we get fifty thousand lakes on Youtube on this on the smash cast you youtube video about this took tend to make my dreams come true please. Somebody somebody do something for Shane for. I can't stress. I can't stress how much I want to defer hot dogs made. And this is the only way that it's going to get made aide guys you have to you all have to come out in droves and support this podcast in every way possible on youtube a tube on on spotify tunes in every way and tinder hot tinder. For Hot dogs will will come to fruition. Make it happen make it. It'd happened guys please. So yeah so then. Eventually we did create the tender for hotdogs video. It was a video that we enjoyed making very much. It was very silly Damian sings in it. It's pretty great this next clip Comes from episode thirteen with Myself Shane. And Courtney and this is when I started sort of the meme of Me Wanting to date courtney sister. I found that it makes Courtney extremely uncomfortable so I decided to dig in further because I am an annoying person like that enjoy I'm a working woman and like I don't need I don't need no man. I mean because there were women. It's pretty cool. I was actually. That was my sister last night and I was telling her about that she took my hand. She's like I'm really proud of you. Oh God this is what it's all about. You know the sister that You're going to meet up with on a date. Wow Wow we've been we've been the we've been bothered. It's a joke it's true okay. Sure it is. Let me let me tell yes. Okay so we're seeing a lot but ends been like. Can I say slang into no not no. Don't as slaying a single donkey. How dare how dare you appropriate my word? And then use it i Ashley Ling Dong Well. He's been dating he's been he's been in the dating pool. And you know going on following leads but I haven't I haven't really been I haven't been. Is this how you pursue successfully dating assess. I guess I'm like I'm like that's a Ha- I'd like to take you out to dinner for questioning. I'd like some evidence that we might be compatible. I mean that's that's kind of how how well anyway. He's so that's what he's been following leads of suspecting women and we were having a conversation the other day of like Oh who can we set him up with and I made a joke that my older sister was wrestling. She's newly single but they would did not work. Why it's weird for me? It's about it's about. It's about my happiness and your sister's happiness. That's that's right Courtney Dude God say like look your sister and I are the same age. Roughly we both live near each other. So that's great for La Duda. Boy You live close to each other. Well I guess it's that is a lead we have lead in. La Live close to somebody that's like that's half of the relationship. Oh Oh man it I've I've I've definitely ended. I definitely I ended a thing because it was just too far away. Your in Santa. Monica was literally early like we were. We were a solid like twenty miles away and like in any other state. That'd be fine but it got to a point like I am. This is crushing me. Like my back back hurts syndrome driving so much to their house and you just fall asleep on their bed. I was like I'm just like I'm exhausted. Every time we hang out I can't and also also like it just wasn't like it was more reasons obviously but it wasn't that it's mostly the distance if she had lived closer out like I'll give this more of a shot. I mean the weird thing is twenty twenty miles. If you're coming from Los Angeles that's a long distance relationship. Essentially is because it's over an hour to like each other. That's awful. Yeah no I'm not gonNA date and older version of myself cited. But she's not she's not I've I've met her before she's not like you know we're we're very different grant but I feel like she's I don't know you hold on hold on. Does she have a big curic. Does she carry. Does she drink coffee. I don't think she has a character. Oh no she's nothing but then other lead in what do you. What do you think at home? Should should courtney set it up. No no I talked. I talked to carry about it. She's like no it is she. Just saying that for your sake or yeah she did. She say you know shouldn't say you carry. I'm so sorry this she listen to this. May sometimes if I'm on it in my family only listens if I'm not on it. Does your dad listen to this podcast. Are He watches. That do you think he would approve. I don't know man. Yeah start dating. Can you get your father's blessing for Ian. Yeah sure go afford. Shoot your shot. Dare you know Im- person don't do dressing him on the podcast. Aw Sorry Dad Mr Miller. Say Your condolences for the robbery. My condolences for the robbery. They have your daughter's hand in marriage because because straight to the point I'm done I'm ready. I'm ready to commit kicking it old school. Oh my God did you imagine what my I just like I all I can think about right now. Is the wonderful Thanksgiving dinner. All I'd come to your house and just have a lovely dinner together. Share stories to talk about the time. Your sister and I went to Kazu Bell Pinochle by the by the beach guy. Go on. That's it we only took one trip. Hi this is early on. Because there's only what Monsanto we're talking about this Thanksgiving yeah this thing so one trip to Cozumel at that point is this is fair enough. Yeah but what a Harris next year. Yes that's probably where I'll propose. Yeah you'd propose there right. They Apple Tower. Yeah already got my dad's blessing apparently. Yeah great wow it's been really it's been awesome love this sweep. I don't know what to say. Carey came on the podcast. Oh my God my okay Eh. This next clip Gosh this is going motion. All this is episode fourteen where I bring my ex-girlfriend on the podcast. Mary is our mediator. I believe this clip is just us talking about our relationship and the failings what led to US breaking up so this one's this one's pretty emotional. You're you're committed to this relationship. You're you've been in this relationship for year and a half things start to happen. How does that? How does that make you feel in like how does that take a toll toll on you because you're not expecting this and in in so many ways when we started a relationship it's like that is the last thing you think that you're signing up more? I mean I mean I think one of the one of the signs for me that felt like you know this this was like a real a real real relationship. There was real real feelings was the fact that you know Pan told me that she had a she had a risk of cancer and then she had a history of cancer before we even inside legitimately dating so that was sort of my out. That was like that was like. Here's the door if if you're not if you're not about this like you know Pam as like straight up. She's like you know you might have to live with the fact that I might die at an early age and and it didn't really bother me. I mean obviously the thought of her dying greatly bothered me but it didn't scare me away. You can take this on yeah. It didn't didn't yeah that didn't to me that wasn't a reason to in things. Yeah And at that time Pam had told anybody really about about her cancer. You literally told Your your pass Boyfriends uh-huh like whoever you are in a relationship with when you're when you're going through that but you didn't tell your parents you didn't tell anybody nobody on the Internet new a couple friends new and told me And and that kind of openness lake really created this sort of connection between us I feel more and also to like. You're talking about when when I told you about that new thought about like. There's a chance that this could happen. there's this thing. Where are you? Try to imagine scenarios like you try to imagine your significant other dying and like the way that plays out in your head is never how it's going to play out in real life so I feel that although you were like I can. I can handle this when it actually started happening. There was there was something to it that was not necessarily missing. But it just hit you harder harder than you thought it would because you know A good portion of the the reason that I I you know ended. The relationship is because I couldn't deal with someone not being emotionally supportive for me while I was in the hospital like I mean I don't want to go into detail because you know I still believe that you're very good person but you know at the time it was just I wasn't as important and that's what it felt like. Yeah that was those a thing. I think the And we can. We can either get to that now or we can get to that later but I mean the the sort of Straw the straw. That broke the camel's back was I was set to go on a business trip And it was. I was only gone for two three days the night before I left You started feeling the abdominal pain. And we've been through this before and you know I was always there at the hospital as much as I could be and it was at this point it was almost routine right and so so it was like okay. No problem I'm going to go on this trip and you know whatever will happen will happen. It's probably the same exact thing as it was before and I'll be right back and I'll be there. I'll be there for you but you clearly had different needs for you know how you see your relationship being and how you see the person being there for you and I wasn't there for you as much as you need to be. Do you situations do you think fe One of the reasons that you weren't there as much as because it bothered third you like the pain and the suffering like bothered you so much to the point that you couldn't tolerate being or not tolerate but it just you were uncomfortable being around and when it was happening because it hurt so much or is it like one of those. I really haven't really broken down exactly why you weren't there you know Lake Lake. What do you I mean? Maybe you don't have something to explain that with but I just any insight would I think like I said it just it. It became almost like a routine. Like you know we had we had been through it before It didn't seem like it was anything new so we kind of knew what the how come would be if we figured it was another torsion and it was right but what ended up happening is that was. That was the final that that was the final one. No there's one more that's right. There's more after so yeah there was another torsion I was out on the truth half and then and then came back ahead. Deal with some stuff at the office and and Ryan. WHO's WHO's our writers sitting around the camera was there was there that day And he was like he's good like you. You like pans the hospital. Is You probably go. Go see her as A. Yeah Yeah I'm I'm I'm going to get over there like just you know I need to. I need to finish this and then and then I'm GonNa ago. The hospitals the two miles away from the office so it sounds like you run to your defense mechanism which is running to you work. Because that's the that's the thing that makes sense for you almost like you're you're safe place and it's a way to to run away from things which I totally really get. I think it's one of the reasons. Why my schedule's like packed to the Brim? Because it's like that's how I know that my life is like like good like you know like it. It gives you some sort of security to know that it's there And from the outside. That's what it sounds like 'cause having to deal with it is just so difficult difficult and I think also like I just. I'm very much an optimist and I've always I was always an optimist in our relationship. Whatever she he was worried about whatever? Whatever pain you're feeling Pam? I was always just like We don't know we don't know until the doctors tell us. Yeah like and you know. Oh you know be be prepared for for a loss you know I could. I could get this and I could be gone a year or six months or you. You know one time you were diagnosed and they said you had a few months to live so you. You're not not well. Oh well I mean technically at the Er got it Kinda but my but the one that kind of it was way before that forever ship So I mean you're you're sort of outlook on everything is very different from mine. YUV A realist for my life right. Everybody's lives once you've had a life of just stuff stuff is what I'm going to call it You become very aware that the good that you have is sometimes only fleeting in that bad stuff is around the corner corner so maybe sort of a pessimist. But I'm still. I'm still a very positive person. You know it's so interesting because from the outside it really is like you guys are like reading different books because I can totally see it like from Pam's perspective like you've been through stuff you know how hard it can be and you see it from like a realist point interview And so much emotion comes from your like you just almost want to like you wanted to be like romantic. Almost he's like this could be the last one you know like like I just WanNa feel all those things and then I can wholly understand your perspective of just like like it. Maybe it's not that bad like let's keep keep our head up and Keeping positive but to you it feels like your not being validated. where it's going through all this stuff? Sorry Life Five. Pam doesn't feel validated in what she's going through when Ian is being the best person he knows he could be By just being being optimistic and it's like it's interesting because we grew up with the saying like treat others the way you want to be treated but I think as we grow older we have to really understand understand that you have to treat the other president how they wanna be treated and it's like you guys were speaking your own languages as oppose speaking each other's languages various Mary Stuart Murray deep in Your Eyes. Ready that's really good. Yeah yeah that was a thing that was yeah. That was a good pot. I kind of forgot how good of a pod Damn Damn Xinqiao Real. This next one is episode seventeen. This is one that I did with Damian Shane we talked about how I screwed up the two truths one lie video that we did with Pam. My ex and yeah enjoy. This week is a little bit of a rough one because I had to give a final approval of the two truce. One lie that I did with with Pamela right right For those you don't know being my ex girlfriend and I thought it'd be such a hilarious idea to do to truce when and live with her and The video will be out by the time. This podcast comes out so if you haven't watched watcher right after you listen to all this to speak freely about what happened Yes yes. I thought. It'd be hilarious and I was like okay. One of the great one of the great lies on a minute. Drop on her at the very end is that I cheated on her. And and then obviously that didn't happen so that was gonna be the lie. Then something happened. I was obviously very nervous during that part and I was very excited and I've been waiting a long time to do this to truthful and lie and this is the moment and she was. She was a confusing me with word Jazz. And and whatever English like she was like saying things I I've had to watch it back like six times understand where it all went wrong but basically I for a moment for got how the game was played and Then she guessed that the lie was that I cheated on her which is correct which is correct and so she's supposed to spray me if she gets it right I for some reason and sprayed her which then proceeded to What then happened next was probably one of the worst moments in my life where I sprayed her then I realized Oh shit she thinks I cheated on her and this is the moment? Wouldn't that I reveal it to her spring the face with water public on camera and camera in front of people. And you were you. Were kind of laughing yes you did you got you. And the moment the water like hit her face. I realized like looking at her reaction was like wait. Wait she thinks cheat. Oh God oh no Arnot. And like and you guys Damian and Shane like you guys were in the peanut gallery and I told you guys this though that I was going to drop drop that yeah and so you guys knew you guys are ready for it and you're like what are you doing. You're playing the game wrong. Yeah what was what was going. Well some some thoughts on the new kind of caught. No Yeah I was GonNa say you kind of caught what it might have caused this confusion. We watched the other day to give like notes on it. And first of all I will say like you didn't just come up with that. The idea out of the blue like had one of the best to truth one lines of all time with her boyfriend. Sam By dropping the bombshell of I'm pregnant also alive but just that moment was great. So that inspired yes. I was like I was like oh I I'm GONNA one up it. Yeah and no matter what and a matter what we did know like you have to know because same with Libya by saying oh I cheated on you. We obviously know it's ally but they're still that moment of like there's the point zero one percent chance of like see really willing to do this like whatever and so you could see that kind of with that crazy of a man goes like. Oh you definitely know. You wouldn't reveal it like that's that's the thing so when we watched it again We caught where the mix up happened to truths one line right so she's dissecting it after you say everything it's I prefer whatever type of peanut butter Donna my mom's birthday and I cheated on you. Yeah so she says well. I know you didn't cheat on me. That's for sure. And then she continues on so she knew that she she also playing the game correctly. Ugly should have said like that is for sure why but she says. I know you didn't cheat on me. So that okay that one so she keeps going and so you're thinking all right she's correct about that true so then next and so the idea of true got switched up for both of Y'all she's like well I know he didn't cheat on me so let me go to the other ones. And then she kept is setting them and then that's when you were like wait. Wait so you're trying to find a lie and she's like Oh that's right. Well I know he didn't cheat on me so because that I switch happened for you and your mind when she revealed like okay. You didn't cheat on me and it's like no the lies that I cheated on you not that I didn't cheat on you so it got reverse for both you guys. It was just as visceral for her. It's also the the most simple game in the universe and this is the second time that I've messed it up because I messed it up. The last time I played it I think And so and so like I I sprayed in the face and then obviously she. She got very upset which I completely understand and And then we we cut the cameras for a moment and allow allow everyone to like settle down a little bit and I'm like That was a complete mess up. I didn't cheat on you you and this is not the reveal that I did on camera and it was. It was the it was the worst. It was the worst feeling ever and I You know people people. Everyone was very was very thoughtful Afterwards and you don't want to make sure we're okay and I was like are you all right and I'm like well it turns out I really don't like hurting the people I care about. Yeah I felt bad for you to felt bad for both of you but I ran into you in the bathroom. I I ran into the bathroom afterwards. We'll say hey man are you doing okay. And you're like well I'm worried about Pam and I was like yes and I know that as well we you know we all are but like you know obviously didn't mean to do that I'm worried about Oh you. Too and then Pam comes out of one of the restroom stalls and just as am I in the wrong path through. It was the weirdest moment I I definitely felt bad for. We cut a lot because I mean she knew pretty quickly like we cleared up very quickly but still that just reaction of like whole my my God because yeah what was her beating sprayed with a super soaker and then me like you cheated and lie and we were all just like Oh and you were just like I could tell him that moment. I felt bad. 'cause you looked at her like what obviously know like what's going on and then it it's lily hit and I mean everyone in that room home. The problem is everyone in the room I think. Except you and Pam knew it was going wrong because we were looking at each other Damien and according I and and I was looking at the camera man and everyone in the room and everyone was like eyes wide open mouth agape being like what are you doing and then after it all went down. My favorite favorite quote from the day was Brennan. Our cameraman just looking at you and just went in. That was the dumbest thing I've ever seen but I felt I felt felt horrible because then later I saw you in our cast room and you're just kind of standing there and I was like. Hey how're you doing like It must have been you know. I'm sorry and you're just like yeah I just. I've never ever hurt her. That way. Classic on your end to to hurt someone on that level when you didn't do anything wrong wrong like you accidentally pulled a horrible prank is what happened and you would never do that to her ham on now the sweetest human. So it's hard to see that. Yeah so yeah I I felt for both of you and I think we all do so. Yeah it's it's really funny when we when we broke up up I was having like little sort of like anxiety attacks and and I I kind of told her about it and she she's like okay. Well I have like this. It's kind of like medication That you know if you're having an anxiety attack you could take it and it Kinda kills it immediately. And she kind of gave me like a small like a small amount. Mountlake not like a full dose She's like have you ever feel it. You know. Take one of these so I kept in my backpack. I actually never ended up using. It got better. I still still had in my backpack and so like after after the shoot like I walked into the room and she was there and I was like. Are you feeling okay. She's like no I was like. Are you I have the medication you gave me. Do you WANNA. She's like yeah. That's really good. Strangely like came full circle circle. She seemed fine fine pretty quickly like she. She really pulled it together very well but it just shakes a little. Oh my God yeah well. It's the context. It's getting told you you were cheated on. His is one thing if it's holding a specific way but getting sprayed in the face with the super soaker in a bunch of people. Yeah is bar. Having having said had that I respect the hell out of you for putting out the video in acknowledging it and talking about it now because I feel like I would have been like no please like. There's no way we can cut it to make this fine line. Please lease but you were like no we. It happened pretty immediately. I because I talked to you and Pam after I was like you guys. You know you know you don't have to put it out there you can cut whatever and both you were like Nah off What a story and before we get to the next clip lists take a quick break? Hey it's Ian the host of of the smash cast if you've ever wanted to start your own podcast. You might think you need all kinds of equipment to set it up and guess what baby. That's wrong all you need is anchor. Her anchor is an all in one free tool from spotify. That lets you create your own podcast and get it. Heard anywhere with anchor you can record edit be heard on all listening platforms and uh even periods of sponsors to help you get paid for your show in all works in your web browser or right from anchors mobile APP and best of all it's totally free. Make Colonel Podcast. Thank you today by going to anchor. FM slash slash that's anchored DOT FM slash slash. We did it happen. Let's do it so this next clip is from the same episode episode. Seventeen nineteen Shane Damian and myself talk about insecurities. Yeah we got feelings enjoy and do you guys struggle with any sort of like insecurities well a reason. I also I think. Therapy is great is because You know I don't have A. I'm not an expert in psychology but from the classes I've taken like the big takeaway is that we know far less less about ourselves than we think we do. So you might think you know what your insecurities exactly are and you probably know a lot of them or you think you know what your issues are. But there's probably I'll be a lot that you are just simply unaware of that through a therapist asking the right questions. And just conversing with them will be brought to the forefront. And then you'll you'll be like. Oh my gosh. I wasn't aware of some of these things that than it helps so much. Yeah I mean I think everybody has a lot of insecurities too I mean I I I have not been feeling good about my physical appearance lately probably has a year year and a half like if you watch older smush videos. I was like much thinner than and I'm also a lot of stomach problems which is partially why that is but you know. My parents were always very physical. They met because my dad owned a gym in. My Mom taught aerobics there and so like that was always way too like I bet they have great photos from like the eighties nun literally why I asked my mom for photos for potential video that we and they're literally none Ajit. Oh Shit Bullshit but like I you know that was a good way to get like Atta boys from the parents and like you've been exercising like that's great and now that's not a part of my life so much because I'm just so busy doing neither voiceover twit streaming or being here that I just do not have time to exercise right now and of let myself go by the wayside a bit but on trying to figure out how to still feel good about myself off even if it's not in a physical way and I've never been comfortable my body. I was a Chubby kid the I would I would say you're you're insanely hard on yourself in that regard because I don't think anyone would would definitely people watching I don't think whatever claiming to be out of shape but I notice all the time you talking like like. Oh Yeah I don't know about the shared it makes me like Like this or whatever take a group photo and your back. I don't know I don't know I don't like how I look in that. Or whatever like you pointed out and videos and edits. You're like I look like this. I'm like I would. I would have never noticed missed it. You're you're holding such lens to yourself harder self. oftentimes we're on biggest critics. Thank God because if anyone else was worse on let me add that bad dudes just an ass. Well we wouldn't keep them around like honestly like where I I think you know one of the greatest things about the people that we've sort of kept a round ourselves and surrounded ourselves with here's like everyone is super supportive of each other and you know we all we all want the best for each other. I would hope that you know if any of us are struggling with anything that you know we would all be here for each other now. I love these. There's no real reason for it. I love the people around me Nobody's been like mean mean about anything on the internet which is shocking but like it just comes from within and I know it's something I've gotta work on mentally as well as physically. Yeah I feel like I feel like I'm I'm mean to you when when you're talking about yourself and I'm like you shut up right now I feel like I'm like Oh maybe I'm being too mean even even. Hi I'm like shut the hell up Damian and I don't think those insecurities would leave you if you know if you got into the best shape of your life you instill that's those those insecurities are still there and you're still going to be like. Oh I don't I don't know about this today. I don't know whatever like if you're insecure about your body you're GonNa be insecure about your body and you can't the only way to beat that is to mentally you know counteract batter to find ways around it. I mean you're somebody you exercise all the flip and time And when I see you I think you're like the most shredded person I've ever met but if you're talking about those insecurities not leaving you. Do you feel like you still deal with that stuff Absolutely yeah yeah yeah And I mean I'd say part of the reason I work out so incessantly is because like if I go two days without working out and I'll be like. Oh God God I feel I feel like Goo today I yeah I hate it and it's it changes right like because it'll be you know for longest time it was that I was like I'm too skinny. I'm like whatever I You knew up until like I WANNA see the age of twenty three or twenty four. I wore jackets year round like even when it was like Black Jean Jacket. That's what I met you when you get that. That was a it was like that Robert Pattinson e type black black one and then I switched to the green leather one which Jay would still wear when I started here and I would wear them if it was ninety degrees outside. It's still be wearing the jacket and it was just just because I was just like. Oh my I don't like how my arms look today. Wow what really ask so. So yeah no and then like pool parties and stuff. I'd back off shit like no way because I feel like that you if you feel like that. There's no it's just it's just I don't know and it's and then it changes man like 'cause I definitely you know I can't self diagnose but You know with like body. Morphine and stuff. I still don't think like I'm that big like I don't think I'm that buff or anything like I don't I don't I I am of my body is seeing rather average size but what will happen is sometimes even if I do get bigger than just back off. But it's shaped my body's shaped weird or just it looks weird or just doesn't look good. I don't look I just don't look like I'm in great shape. I just whatever it changes all the damn time and it's really early tough to keep up with and a really am a you know it's a prisoner to it sometimes because there'll be days where like if I haven't worked out for a couple of days days and then say it's you know. Oh I haven't worked out for the past two days but today everyone's going to Disneyland but if I go I'm not able to make it to the gym and I'll be like should I should i. Should I go or should I go to the gym. See no idea no idea that you know you struggled with this because because I you know I mean we make. We make jokes all the time. And I don't know if it's if it's if it's hurtful now that I'm thinking about it. We make jokes all the time about how swollen you are. Yeah I think I have gotten much better at about everything through smash just because not necessarily through. Praise doesn't doesn't really help any any any. In fact. Sometimes I think it makes it worse Love the most insecure people I know physically are the models in the like best looking people. I've Matt because growing up. They were constantly told. You're so pretty. You're so attractive. So it's like Oh that's my entire worth so if I lose that even for a moment I'm nothing got it and probably the same people who were praised for being super smart then get super insecure if their intelligence gets you know questioned. But that's the thing about you too. That's interesting to me. He is like you're you're incredibly well rounded person so like yeah you exercise constantly. You're doing fine in that department but also a lot of intelligence to back it up. Your House which we saw in the house tour is stacked with books that you've read not even counting the books that you gave away. Because you know you're just not going to read them again You're always trying to like you know. Discover more things about like music. You were teaching yourself guitar right now. You're learning Spanish like there's so much that like even if your physical stuff went away even if all your books burned and you couldn't read anymore like you would have have so much to fall back on so it's interesting here and I know nothing I say can fix anything but it's just interesting knowing that like you know a lot of people have one thing to build self worth off of. You've got a lot of things I mean I. I don't know it's tough. I mean I but we could all say that for ourselves right like I don't know I I feel like a lot could be the exact same could be said to. You could be said to all of us that work here And for so many people who are insecure And I think there's an aspect of insecurity fueling that motivation. But I don't think it's a good fuel. I think a better fuel as just enjoying life and I'm doing things because it's founder and wanting improving yourself because improving yourself is fun. Yeah for the sake of it not for only to improve myself to become something. That's worthwhile inserted. Did those insecurities become worse after your last break-up or I actually think they were they've gotten better i. I think it changes you know as you get older just different just in life insecurities just switch around. I think when I'm insecure. I am insecure about anything. I will find the thing to be insecure about. You know I'll be like oh I'm short or This I'm I'm not whatever like if it's an it'll be physical or then it'll be eh just who I am or something like that I mean and I think that goes for everybody. I think I think insecurity is insecurity. takes many forms. I think but there is a good humble way to look at that and be like you know everybody can say that we all have these different talents and different things to fall back on but I found you are somebody into speaking as a friend here. I found that you are somebody that will do that. All the time to the point where. It's not even a sense of necessarily being humble. But you're taking victories away from yourself yourself i. Everybody has different things that they can consider a source of pride for themselves. I should I should hope so. And if you don't feel that way you should definitely do some soul-searching and find it because it is out there but with how many different areas of expertise you have. I think it's okay to like every once in a while. Say it just for yourself and it's not not even arrogant thing. It's like you know what not everybody is able to do. All these different things so good for me because it's not like I was born being the best runner. Smartest boy in comedy like you work flip in hard and a lot of areas so I would just encourage you to you know. Acknowledge that for yourself you know everybody has the insecurities everybody can and fall back on stuff but you work hard to have a lot of things. You're good at good for Shane. Thanks man you got it thank you. Yeah I and I I don't know it's it's like I said the the even self-praise it's not I don't know I feel that it's like oh great I am this thing. I am who I need to be to be happy right I yeah I just think they're the pursuit of all those things. For the sake of finding happiness will never achieve it. I think when I find when I'm able to let go of those insecurities as when I I think honestly what it is is in. Its own form selfishness right. I'm doing all these things improve myself. What are on the end? But it's just that I'm thinking about myself self. I'm I'm so focused on improving myself and becoming something that I need to be that I'm not looking outward and so when I I let go of that and I go you know what I'm going to focus focus on my friends my family and people around me and what makes them amazing Suddenly then you just lose yourself and it's it's this. It is kind of this issue for you this breaking free of that prison that you had in yourself when you're just locked into your own head about what's wrong with you and what everybody's thinking about you instead going. No I'm going to focus on what's great about everyone around me what I love them. And then you feel that connection everyone you go then you suddenly feel loved because you're looking for that when you're trapped inside yourself but you can't feel that love because you're just inside inside yourself your sealed away you get out you go. Kay I'm with everyone. Oh my God I'm loved and I love them great and now I feel great so this next clip is from episode. Twenty five with Courtney Noah and Keith and Coordination Keith Hash out some real drama uh-huh and it's all about a desk joy. I used to rearrange my apartment or room like regular you raise the destiny. That's that one time. Let's go. There will always want to go back to the desk still dealing with that really okay located on the on the real. How can I let me this thing? Okay let's talk about. We have to take turn. Yeah we'RE GONNA take turn okay so this is thing when I mean this is. I loved Solway Zoe. You've quit. You could tell you're you're kind of the middleman you are essentially. It's a Friday. I believe cordy started working with us on on a Monday. Whenever everyone's meeting whatever in an office it's white walls? We don't really talk to anyone. We're stuck in a room for like eight hours a day with each other. That's really we all have our own computer in a weird desk in each corner. Yeah that's it. That's the coroner's Yeah an-and think according to ashes. I could do something with the room you you were telling the whole. Oh I'll tell the whole story. I'm so sorry okay. So then there was a group talk. I believe it was our producer at the time sunny and Joe I believe we all got together on that Friday all the cast too and they were like. Hey do you want to possibly reach the room. I know everyone's got individual desks. But maybe we do some sort of group desks situation or something like that. I believe we went around to ask people's opinions. I believe leave. It was two in the yes three in the know or two in the two in the know. Shane wasn't around at the time with Olivia. Keith saying no we don't want our stuff move no on the movement. But now courtney saying I would really really love it and me saying oh I do like that idea. I think it would be a lot more collaborative for all of us have desks together. Did you say that. Oh Yes yes I did I did. I said yes. Whatever but you know what after our conversation? I believe we landed on. We weren't gonNA move them yet. But the idea was accepted fifty fifty fifty at that point. That was Friday Monday. We all come back. I'll walk in his mother. I'll walk in the office and the desk. My desk was go in order for you. Push to together. Each desk had a separate desk as if the computer the back of the computers would face each other. So it's like you and me were together and then they were together so I came in hurting US issues really be I heard him telling you. That's what I'm trying to tell you. 'cause it's like a straight up when you sell somebody no I don't want something some way and I come in and the first thing she says to me and I didn't even like you said this I mean me I kinda like like inside Shis Burston. You're like you like yeah I admit a move the dusty like it that came in hot like I'll let her know unbelievable when she does met this girl and she's moving my desk and then she asked me if I like it when I just order on Friday I was like Oh my gosh. She's nuts she's not of thinking like why did I do wrong to deserve this. That was in my head like it was the alternate I studio like you got to understand like when I go through it. I'm going through it. Yeah that doesn't sound fun. No it wasn't to port someone's Burmese say like Yo please. Don't you can move anybody else's told like you know like straight up I contact and then to be pulled back and then the same person be like. Hey do you like it. Like oh my got him like y'all does she does she. Does she want problems of I know Klaus honestly didn't know I was like Yo. She's tried to pick on me. I really thank you. We're going to deal with for a long time. What did we worship the and I had to really deal with the even to the point now where I think about it sometimes? It's fun but I was like. Hey this really took me to a place of just nice rusting and not like and we had to build that love and trust by all means like we love each. They're like Courtney I'll text her every now and again. Just be like you know. I love you and pictures or whatever but like it was definitely for me like out of like like all the salacious idea might who cannot trust. I'm coming into a whole different situation. Like how am I supposed to trust someone when we have an understanding and the understanding is just. It's like yeah I like this. I did it for you like no that was not for me. That was like all you real quick before we get to your side. I just want to say thanks. Keith for me experiencing that number one. I did like the desks a lot more time to test enjoy the yeah I loved it. I was much more effective. She did do a great job arranging it more desperate by the windows each person had a window to share it done but he didn't he keith. Lost his special like SPA. The zone like my court. As much as we're a group individuals that come from different places struggle with different thought processes and everything everything and for me it was just like Oh yeah it was really funny to see a fight happened over a desk. Yeah I love you I love you know you do I trust. We've been through a lot and like I'm GonNa say my honest opinion about that whole situation. 'cause like dude. I was a control. Frequent came in. I was ready to to make myself a part of everything and like be a part of everything whether you guys ready for an I wanted to be your best friends and I didn't realize that some people don't like that right away. I totally came in too hot when that happened. Like An. Maybe you said directly. No I don't remember I thought it was like I don't know I'm not sure I remember but it could have been done. I still was wrong for taking your guises space and moving because that was not my fucking job. Your reaction was so shocking shocking and like I feel terrible that affected you for that long like it affected me terribly because it affected you so much and I was like Holy Shit I made. This person feels so much anger and I know you didn't let it go for months. I didn't earn your trust for mind especially being a you being a new person whose idea like. Ah This is how this is going to go. I don't know if I can really be cool. Nijinsky totally are like you literally did not know me at all. Aw unlike I came at it with like Oh like this is something exciting anew and like me and rearranging is like a fun like cleanse. That happens in a room. It's like my Mike loveland staging a place or whatever but like the like I just it was just a desk. Do desperate that the it was the no like really made me. Yes so we had. This conversation was just a desk. And that's how simple it was. If you just move a desk when I tell you don't move mine I send you can move everybody else's and then we get to the point where you just come in and then you asked me about like. I'm like Yo does. She's playing games games to play. I know how people play Games. I play Games sometimes. Everybody Plays Games on. My head is just like in this whole shit shit like what ever experienced anything like believe. Everyone's trying to play games. 'cause like my personal thing that that is a personal thing but look at that no even that we're talking about today is still kind of relationships legitimate. Love the beginning stuff. But like that's socks when it's like we're still learning each other and like that experience was really hard for me to unlike I wronged you I- i- embedded your space. It was incorrect that I did that. I just couldn't believe like how long and like how harshly you treated me like and again like we've been through. Whatever I fucking love you both those days I do apologize and like an like you just didn't take it well and I I started crying and then like you felt bad? Hugged me separation for sure the separation. It's just like how you say it was just a desk. It was like for me it was just a the no just to say that I feel like because of that whole like like. Oh you're feeling this way. I'm feeling this way. We had our own films. Just it was hard for me with it being so new to understand somebody to like you know. You don't know I'm like I thought your intentions were so like just against me and this is something I have to work on like with people in general I don't let people in I struggle with it like all my friends at no me personally like on a deep level. They're like Yo. Keith does not cool right now by the water you need like you just have people that saw me in that way and like I do take friendship Berry Berry furiously. It was just. I got to work with somebody. Who's just like so like like me? You know it was like an AH. That's it came across to you inconsiderate and all this shit and it's like an it's real your came across I am like Oh this is great like like I'm GonNa do this thing for these guys. Maybe they'll like what I do. Enjoy cooking drew fan of guys. I'm such a fucking door. You're really a sweet burson. Not a proud really both similarly weird Li like those first few months like we. We did not vie while I was really hard for for me because it's like for me at least back then one hundred percent at least back then it was like oh friends. The more the merrier. I'm not gonNA check you. Psychologically I'm mental at you and you're going to learn everything about me and I'm going to trust you with my life and for that I've made some serious mistakes up. Yeah Fuck What is it fire and ice or fires? All I'm saying you're complete opposites because like like you said I'm going to allow people to come in and Blah Blah Blah. I'm like Y'all like I I'm not I mean honestly I feel like out of anybody in the group like we've actually clashed a most. Oh Yeah you taught me like it's just been like it's but it's never like we could always look back in hindsight in the moment it like hurts for anybody involved and that doesn't make anybody bill comfortable in the air but on the outside looking in honestly both of you communicate very similarly which is Not How communicate are. I don't think I'm as good at it. which is both of you are like very emotional people in no negative? But in the way we're like you guys very much in tune with how people are feeling. How did you feel in like how those things kind of connect and communication? I don't know if I'm doing a good job describing what I'm trying to but both of you are likely give people hugs both of you very often will like a firm love or kindness for each other other people around you. Both of you will make sure some feels comfortable if you notice that they don't And just to touch on the in the early days like really. It's it's like you coming in being new like uh us being stuck there in a room for like six months meeting you randomly and and like you coming in with the exact same energy. We had six months prior. And it's definitely like we did not let you in as much out of you know the awesome you gave us energy. That didn't know why you were coming in with energy because you had yet to realize what the first year was like which was like. Hey we're not announced yet like we're we're just kind of secretly doing doing this and that so we pretty much spent months just in the same room together. There wasn't much space. There wasn't much to do so it makes sense. Oh like a boring white office room like kids. That have never really really really looks like your Teacher's desk. I think Courtney was the only one that had like a real job because you worked at a pharmacy Eh. But let stand wasn't like a like a grownup drop. That's like some kid like let's go make some restaurants situations uh-huh but like we were just in this white room like I don't even know that they knew what they wanted to do with us. or how like what the situation what we actually were guys. You gotta gotTa realize we are five different types of different like just the way like I mean beyond the way we look you know and everything altogether like the way that we all. Oh came together. You know it's like something that like people don't have and we'll never have. I've pieces from different fit. It fit and like that's the thing beyond sounded fitting like the way that it fits. Now we have to find how to fit it. How the puzzle words like it was like? I look back at like how I handled a lot of things in the beginning. Just like like with like even this situation. I'm like Dang could like softened up a little bit or listen. I could've you could've did all that but like the way that this like at the end of the day. We're we're not office as much as we used to be. But like I'm telling you the love that I have for you coordinating to love after Shane like eating late. It's real it's real shit for me. I had it's a grow to love. I feel like we all had to grow to love different people. You know what I mean like. So cool is so-called and people will never get this opportunity and after experiencing being in that room with you guys so much. I wouldn't want to do that with the person I love. Most I would not want to be in the same room stuck with that person all the time no matter how much I love them because stew much you need that being said I would not trade those experiences no. I'm so glad we had them but I wouldn't built us like I wouldn't like O. You have the opportunity you to work ten hours a day with your favorite sibling. And you like do you want to do it. I've gotten enjoy them when I have them. Like what we have now like. Yeah I think we all grew so much not linked together as a group like independently because we were learning how to coexist this with people. Normally we keith. You and I specifically I feel like we have very big personalities and like we're very passionate and like we feel very hard and so that's why like the clashes like they feel that clash like harder than what we should honestly harder than what we should like. I feel like in the moment there. We can validate it all day. Like you know what I mean but like hindsight is like a cry baby cry. Yeah so this next episode is the so random smash cast episode featuring bring Damian Shane Alison Ashley Arm and Matthew Scott. Montgomery and they talk about a sketch that was done on so random. That was so bad that it never aired so my favorite story one of my top five favorite stories of all time is we. We did a sketch that never made it to air. Thank God called Tina bottle and I was knows Matthew Scott and myself it was A. You're the debt and dad. I was the son. Tiffany was my wife or enemy. Mama Audrey was your sister was so we were the children so the sketch was like sixty sitcom like a sixty sitcoms foulness lamp in the basement in want to rub out of it out of this genie lamp that we find comes a teenage Jeanie. Who doesn't grant any wishes because she's she's Sassy candies teenager like? An angry Sassy teen there was a lot of issues with the girl who played the the teeny Who played teeny? She had to be painted and they painted her green. But that wasn't working. So the producers were so focused on her and how she was doing the character that Matthew Scott and I were just like. Let's give the worst performance line. We're running behind on time. Yeah the actress famous Cook John Shoes having a really hard time with the materials a toddler Hodler. She was like an adult but she was like eleven twelve. Now the notes getting from the network or whatever that was like everything she was doing was too negative or like would be a bad kids but that was kind of how how was written on the fly trying to rewrite it to make him more positive. But it's not working. She's half in green makeup. What was the line about being adopted? I don't even know like there was some line where it's like. What's what do you want to wish for and like you are? I wish I weren't adopted and like rich. Remember the heart and we like were improving. And they're like okay and moving on we're like you you know so we start this and Matthew Scott and I had talked but we're like let's go insane with this. Yes so I'm thinking I'm GonNa go nuts and all of sudden just goes literally. Do you remember the face. I was watching this. It's on like closed circuit. TV in the dressing room. I You I think he said he turned to Matthew Scott at one point he just went there just gritted is looking like they're gonNA pop out of his surveys. You looked both angry and happy at the same time. We're running way behind and the lash out we had to get was like the opening credit. Shot where it's like and that's ads teeny or whatever it was and it was a shot of me and my family shoved around each other in like cocoa popping up between us and we only had time for one take and so instead of me saying the line. That's ads teeny where you just screaming. She like I'm not going to grant that wish. And then okay checking the gate time to go. That's GONNA I was. I was laughing through most of the takes. I didn't have a line delivered. Where what's it like what we did? We shot our wants because they didn't have time. So we knew they're going they're not used apart where you folded your orbs but when oh you did they did not touch just like Lake God. It was absolutely insane and they said nothing. We're like we looked at Damian was watching it on the monitor and I come back. Did you watch Ya. Everyone's watching the monitors and they were so disturbed by what we were doing. That they came out. I just like everything. There were so concerned cocoa that they never looked at the most. It's it is the hardest. I I've ever laughed. I went through this guy skip. who was editing? And I went to him. And Editors Bay a couple of weeks later I was like can I please watch Tina bodies oh we scrapped all of that. We couldn't use any any of them like. Oh my gosh I I mean I would give anything to watch now man. There's so many funny moments man. The man who waterbed sketch right guys. There's no one else here in this room. Well this next Clip comes from episode thirty three. And it's myself no one Keith. And Keith opens up out of nowhere. About how are we have been feeling so good and the steps that he's taking to be happier and healthier so Keith. You've you've you've made some changes in your life. Oh Yeah have actually not as much as people think like I've been trying to get a lot more healthy not aben trying to go on hikes because like I do have a lot more free time and I see that I am starting to gain weight. I'm twenty seven years old now. Don't tell so nobody but God but I'm twenty seven years old and way to sticking to me like never before twenty sevens the turning point. That's that's the that's the final dying gasp lavar metabolism. So let me just say this. I went I weighed myself. I didn't even know like one of my roommates. has like a scale in the bathroom and I never way myself. I don't really I away myself but not that often and I happened to look over and I was like okay. Let me just play muscle missy. Where on that? Because I'm the weight fluctuates up and down up and down so ended up weighing myself and I was like one forty one forty one. I can't remember my memory's not that good anymore and like by the next week or the week after that I want to sell was one forty five and I started hiking. I started like doing you know like a couple pushups like not like you. Just a few like ten twenty any here. I'm feeling Real Nice Nice but I've been doing that but like to gain weight a Noah's not muscle like I know so like I also have to eat healthier and I just I honestly have to like honest. Just monitor what. I eat what I do what I drink. I can't drink beers as much. No I love a free beer at kitchen. Twenty four said that you guys are GonNa find go lower but like Like dead ass. y'All like I. I looked at the the the scale the next two weeks or so and I like wait one forty five and that scared me because I was like Yo. I'm actually trying to take precaution. And just like you know. Yeah yeah drinking's a big one man It's that that that will catch up for the call. I'm starting to get like all my love. Handles like beyond my mom calls inside. I don't I got signs but they also got some dents in them on my Webcam I never had no dense potholes everywhere they some little cues. This is kind of like a beanie baby you know how such as the little things in their collectible items are got something to hold onto. But I've definitely been like working now. I'm going hiking after this is why I'm dressed like this. I'm very comfortable. Not San Alliott gets you a shirt. Oh yeah this is you gotta get the slush. Colt merged forts all gone the COLLAB- it's good shit. It's really a good. This shirts actually incredibly like companies materials Super Nice I don't know about this is this is limited edition super dope at the hat. That is awesome. It's like a a straight custom. Yeah this is what does this call the five panel. except I don't know how a camp camp hat this commercial and it's not about me anymore anymore. It's okay get your stuff. They'll get you get you get you get your March most store. Thank you but definitely just trying to watch myself and the funny thing is like people think that I'm better Ryan was talking to Libya Recently and he was like Yo like house Keith. And he's asking questions and she's like Yo he's like healthier. He seems happier beer and guys. I'm fighting so hard for my happiness. You know what I mean. I like When he brought it up earlier because you know we do talk about a little little bit about like what we're GonNa talk about before we get here you just to like have a understanding of where things could go and I started thinking when he asked me I was like Yo like I think I might be more depressing? I've ever been and I beat myself up when I'm alone and everything and I'm like I'm fighting. Fill like oh like even saying about them kind of getting emotional like just honestly like fighting for my life. You know what I mean. Yes yes and I find myself you know like I go to church and everything. I'm just trying to find find something like I mean like. I'm not here all the time you know what I mean. We don't come in Monday through Friday. I have a lot more time. I'm audition and stuff now more so and you know like ideas Mike. What makes me happy? Yeah like what do I enjoy like. What's what what's my identity like? Who am I like really going through it? y'All like when you have like so many people watching you you have to you start to watch yourself more and to the point where you judge yourself way more than than what you would have if you only add a couple of people you know is on you but I honestly realized I am like I'm pushing through. Perseverance I take pride in purser harsher light just perseverance moving forward but like I am doing these things like just because I don't feel the best you know what I I mean. I don't feel one hundred percent. I'm trying to find it. I'm searching Y'all I am search and the only way to do doing something new. I used to make fun of people for Hiking. I see why people do it. I see what people work out. Remember I will always say I'm not working out for Shit. I'm not doing this like no stupid. I didn't have to now my body's he's changing like that's one thing but just the things that you're you're psyching your mental like I have to do that for that going on the highest I get down like the first day. Let me start by the first. The first thing I did to hike had drank the day before being transparent being very transparent right now guys. I drank the day before and me. And My homeboy from Ohio Zach. We had ideas ago. We had it for a week like a couple of weeks but I just never did it but I ended up waking up and I got a message from he said Joe and this was like thirty minutes before. We're supposed to go because I was going to bail like I'll be like just straight up. I was like over. I should have been doing this like I. Drain it. And how late were you up to the night before I want to say two or three so like and then like but this is the thing he hit me up at ten thirty so I can. I can move and like you know. Make things work work like I'm a professional. He ended up like facetime me like after like. I've seen a message. No face time tim and I was like Bro. You know. Hopefully that he will be like see my face citing okay. Like he doesn't want to do it but he was like are we still doing now is like yes and I got up a jumped up and also worst decision. The I was looking out there. He brought his dog. So we're going. I'm like Oh my God I just got out the car and I'm walking up this damn. He'll and my calves are all her. What is called me what happened? I'm guessing you probably didn't bring water water. You know the non plant. It brought some water and walking up and we start getting up there. We stop he had to make a phone call. He does like real estate or some stuff so we stopped. And we're talking. I'm like well this. This is great. This is great. We stop it and we're having a good time. I'm Mike all my phone like faced like instagram. Just you know making content and then we started walking but we go like up dislike the steep. Ask He'll and we walked up almost slips and I don't have a good gym shoes jump shoes tennis shoes. What are they sneakers out on the hiking aching shoes so like a kind of slips and I was like okay we get up there like to this like we're area and we do push ups? I'm like okay. This is cool. I shouldn't did the PUSHUPS. y'All shouldn't water started walking on Mike. Okay we're talking afterlife. Five minutes into it. I felt though the the wind it was hot then it got cold and and then I was like Whoa. What's going on what's going on so I keep walking? I'm like he looks back. He was like. Are you okay and I was like no But we keep walking. I'm like I'm GonNa keep going. I'm like hoping like somehow someway. He was see like he could tell that I wasn't good in every his dog wasn't either it's dog had like a fucking Chinchilla. Chinchilla fur on dog had a full Ash Wednesday when second Chile is the finest for according to Jay Z. That's what I'm saying other on a whole Chinchilla I he's just pants and he's like oh I'm like. Do you see your dogs. Dying dogs dying. We keep walking. Can he's like are you okay. I'm like no. Don't ask me to give us Kim. You'RE NOT GONNA ask me to go down. Let's just keep going keep going got up there. You're felt like I was going. I didn't feel but like once like You know how they tell you. Don't sit down like and put your hands behind your head deathly sat down definitely did not do that. I was not bad. I didn't feel like I was go. Make it and I didn't have water and I will never walk up a downhill at all. I don't care what he'll if he'll like this that I just made I walk over. I'm carrying in some water with me but did not feel good but at the same time at the end I realized how much just like getting through it was for me like just moving over to heal. y'All like honestly getting over the hill and fighting for here. Because I did not feel good. I did not feel good and I don't. I don't feel good right now. I'm just being honest. It doesn't matter how you get there okay. All that matters is that you make it to the other side. Because it's the climb. Is that Miley Cyrus Miley Cyrus exploded quoted. Serious almost cry Shit Right. I mean and possibly keep doing the climb like it'll only only get easier like and it's and it's pretty. It's pretty remarkable. If you just keep committing to that now every single time is going to be easier than last awesome and then maybe one day you'll run up that thing I got stopped doing things So last clip of the episode This is from episode. Forty where Livia shares with Courtney. No Shane About how when she was a child old she made all sorts of weird friends. Here it is always know somewhat like earlier today. I was like how has been thinking about doing acupuncture. I have a guy that does a lot of I know a lot of. I have a lot of sources but then also because I grew up in La. So so like I. You know H Fifteen. I was going to weird places. Just doing some investigating work the detective. I didn't have anyone to talk to only child syndrome. I would just go linger at like I remember like at dollar dollar stores or back later met many interesting I would just ask them questions and talk and like become friends with them and okay hold on. We got a Olympia of. I've known you for four and a half years and I didn't know that when you were a kid you would linger on dollars stores and meet people and find out about their lives. This oh my God your child because My I I really good friend that I had in middle school was actually the custodian We like because mom wouldn't pick me up for three well ever since elementary school. My mom would not pick me up for like a two or three hours and then I beg mom and then opened the translator k mart and like she was like shopping in like you guys can't really it's very rare. Where find someone who can relate to my childhood because my mom would just like leave me at school or like leave me and middle school and Middle School? I stopped going after school classes. That hated it so I would just like wait. Three we hours like school would end at three. I would pay about six and I'd hang out with like out. Hang out around. The there was a dollar store. Go hang out and they'd close at like five and I go back to school and hang up. Custodian Custodian Cool so cool. I better very close. I honestly forgot. But we talk about his kids and in and yeah it was talking about like you know. Shy would follow the trade pokemon cards. Truthfully that's what I did and I liked legged under the school will go to this place called Ben Toyota and I would hang out with. Yeah walking down the block and just like I made my stops on my. Hey how you doing today. Wow on your like Belle from beauty the bees street with the dollar i. There's a liquor store just hanging out going on the cruise. I can actually relate to the I still have to address with my mom. 'cause it's something. I really reasonably figured out. 'cause I'm pretty sure I was left places to like McDonald's play place or like Barnes and noble. I'll see my mom would pick me up and I would have to go to the YMCA. Because she would have a couple more hours of work. And I would just chill at the gym. Why wouldn't work out kid? I was just like no I I was very I was very shy off. Like a Gameboy or something. I would just like chill remissed out. My first video game experience was a gym daycare. Are Playing Spiro Cool. I was like Hoda Hoda. She is no. We thought that was on. Good Morning. America why are you like Hoda. What is because I interviewed everybody? You interviewed the custodian. You also interviewed the liquor store like like and you're just a kid. How old were you talking about? How how old are you though like his fourteen thirteen? Just walk in and be like what's up Marty. How's it going? How's your going like selling alcohol? That's pretty cool and then getting a car and that's when it got dangerous because because then you would drive around all of. LA's every no no. Because then I went to this bookstore all melrose and I met this dude and he was the first guy that he he was the first guy I tried to told me about like Why am I being so random right now? Please say like They you know. There's a form form of art performance. Art where they would pull hooks in their body and their body. Oh and so. This guy you met at a bookstore would do that Oh no no no okay. When I was six that was actually the second most memorable? This guy was actually. I met at an Amoeba. You know me by this giant record store. It's about to close down. The I forgot his name already curly hair anyways. He introduced me to a lot. I know this sounds really creepy but we were truly friends. I looked like a little boy anyways so like I like there was nothing better. I know I was very like not scary. You know and he introduced use me to a bunch of awesome movies and then he also was like. Oh Yeah I'm also making a documentary about people who are in psycho the movie psycho Time ago you remember these conversations but after these one meeting they were not one meetings would be consistent with this yeah. We're facebook friends. Wow you still talk to these people no absolutely not absolutely insane. I remember being so because because when you think about a group in a bubble and then I would go out into the city and I meet a bunch of people on. Obviously I would like to know about their lives to admit this you you make a lot more sense now who you are makes a lot more sense now that I know that your childhood was Diablo. Cody movie walking around like. Yeah my best friend's a janitor and a liquor store and a guy who didn't do this show too. I was like oh no no no no. Is it called Chandelier. What does that but because this guy had a lot of body jewelry on him and then he was telling me more and more I oh I think they didn't have an outlet? You know how many customers grow the store and ask them about what they do outside of the store bookstore. Assuming you'RE GONNA ask about books you. Hey this is really good deal. Hook put hooks in your body anything we ever ever Morosini them before. You never going to believe this best friend right now but then we'll just be the I learned. I mean I. I enjoy doing that way more than being at school. No that's awesome. Because my school funky Boeing at the high school library ignoring Johnny. Wow My life is nothing compared to yours as a living to non-thai was sixteen he could have hung out with me. We probably hung out. We probably were somewhat similar similar friends that we probably at the same party at some point out. You're off hanging out with WHO Hook master the mime you met at best buy either even now like I love meeting people and just asking them yeah. You're very curious person. You love to like talk to people to ask questions. I believe. That's the thing I believe everything you're saying I know you're not making this up and that's why it's so insane funny to me. Well that does it for the trip. Down Ole Smash Cast Memory Lane of twenty nine thousand nine guys this again. This was our first. I ever year of doing podcasts. We had a whole heck of a lot of fun. I I love all my friends just bringing them in here talking about stuff. Sharon weird things with these you guys. I hope you guys learned something from it or at least we're just entertained. It's been a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to twenty twenty podcast and some more. So if you're not subscribing smash cast yet on any of the podcast listening APPs go do it. Ray does five stars help help to grow the smash family and also a check us out on the Youtube. That's a YouTube dot com slash smash cast and you could see a pretty faces while we talk. I don't know why you'd want to do do that. But you know if you WANNA see this stupid face. 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#20 - Side Yard Hookups and The Case Of The Mystery Pooper

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#20 - Side Yard Hookups and The Case Of The Mystery Pooper

"Ramble mm you you really you're a real person recording i'd be like no i have hair emotions everything i'm a human and i come home and like some roommates at home i opened my bathroom door like someone destroy my back now you've got yourself a cookie go see young those responsible walking by shea and for whatever reason i know this sounds corny but for whatever reason i felt like i'm gonna know that do interesting i had denzel dressing i believe i believe miami dade high on it was haunted by demi levato is very much alive i'm really excited burp bourbon i don't wanna this is you're brands it's okay for road to what a late start this beautiful podcast we have welcome to another episode of the slush cast it this courtney hosting today with my boys shane top end damion i'm the second one damian i mean i'm so excited to do this with you guys today i'm to like just salon heights say has to yeah i woke up this morning in the forgot about it for the first part of my morning so i was like i was ready to roll in completely like five days on shaven sloppy shirt just like my glasses and i just like oh wait i am gonna have to be on camera today i should probably give a crap about money i love ragged damian oh yeah i don't say you colonel colonel i'm dummy oh my gosh never just a mustache it doesn't compliment my face very well i did once for a short film let my friends were doing but beyond that but you have darker heresy i feel like for me i can't because of blonde blonde hair hey mustache would look like i'd end up on you know some sort of netflix a documentary about how the worst person yeah that's that's like were calling you out gus johnson blond blond moustache is make you a criminal they make you like literally look at it makes it look like i think he would agree i feel like berlin comment is gonna be from john i don't speak freely don't do that hey man i you know i help you guys out a lot and wow okay shows and i want to see everyone in this 'cause we a lot of bearded and like facial harry men in this in this small staff richer i just loved how one mustache monday just for me well yeah that was the the joy when we have joe beretta around you know matt robyn ian both have beards i i say you needs to go mustache and soon i love as we'd be in a lot we need mustache and yeah i mean not not like handlebar moustache like he's done in the past like reverse hitler like just missing here in the middle diane mustache around but not under the nostrils a shame you could totally distracted a simple overlap the like but yeah i think he didn't do it i see that blonde it's salt and pepper eat like you could see it right yeah yeah no i just don't know every time i've done it i'm like it's not visible enough it's kinda just like oh it's just it just did you get a tan right there on day guys okay mustache one day i'll do it to notice tinder four hotdogs gets ten thousand line will do yeah that's right i said jay ladies and gentlemen tender out down how you wearing i'm wearing i'm wearing the tender out doug shirt you still get it you get it you will feel powerful you will be stronger you will run faster you'll have eight of them i don't come legally we could make those kinds of prominent you everything better and look down then he's wearing the hat he's he's wearing a small chat emerging in i got to bedford is going on these small your thursday will be so much more quenched by eight smash water bottle non i don't think you could say any yes it will be more quenched then if you drink water it's not a good my roommate was listening that video last night and i just came downstairs hearing like oh yeah my roommate home video ben hasn't been mark it's great off and those the view the don't know my roommate is mark rob also known as matt rob are buses little brother and they look exactly the say look the same speech patterns of the same mark is eighty a certified we like myself so you're talking about video games and like we watched the my hero academia movie last night 'em yeah we it's good he's a coming from matt rob's place like they're big on family family's important to them so when we moved in together he's like you know i you know i'm i'm reclusive like i stay in my room even though if the apartment as i am and i met he is too so he was like you know the only thing i ask is that once a week we have some form of like family time where they make dinner together or we watch a movie or something like that at the park like kind of the park and i'm the kite hike catching the ball but you know i like it alive feels good feels like you know i don't have a lot of connections gonna hold onto necessarily so it's important to have that in the home space literally yeah that's really sweet i had no idea that that he did that something really nice he's a good i've always like mark yeah he has a very like me type humor she is a mean he literally is me lord yeah he he i think he is one of the first like mean arts in are off he was he was making names were the most games instagram for a while or rosen yeah he's taken a pretty big part in this match games content on that robert now the originator of month that's right off camera say yeah and then it became a shame thing when well what happened was we were i think it's in the footage of the of the mari craft is you hear off camera 'cause i'm trying to help with words i'm like what's the word for this an off camera mark rob just yells monge and i i start laughing and i'm like great and i just start using it a ton of voice that's off camera that you here is mark robins song come full circle yup that's great i'm having roommates i'm not gonna lie yeah yeah i feel like i for a lot i like living alone but after we had like some off party over the weekend the small summer party this mosh summer pot yeah this is a final night and like seeing are crews house was so sick and like that's how my previous roommates that's how we wanted are placed pillow komi other but like we're all like to pour in like couldn't make it happen and it is also three guys the first time moving away from home and old boys i love you but mama ferry he is gone the dishes don't disappear anymore also shame on you if you already major mom do all the dishes yeah some white kids dude coming from a lot of siblings we all had those tours like doing my favorite chore growing up is sweeping and doing the floor so i and i was the only one really doing that for the most part of the department oh snap you hear the apartment well a lot of people forget that need to be cleaned and i'm like floors it's also a tough thing with roommates 'cause i feel like i love alone and i have for most of my life and i will go through phases where i'm bad at doing the dishes or whatever or taking out the trash and you go in and out of those but when you leave with roommates you really notice when you're roommates going through that phase you're unaware of when your going through that phase yeah 'em so that could be tough there's less pressure because you know if your okay with it yeah then worry about like you know bargain and i mean roommates last night there were a ton of dishes piled up and i was like hey what's the deal with the dishwasher he's like oh it's full i'll do it later and i was like great soon as you do that i'll do the dishes and put the men in reloaded great so as long as there is open communication it's fine if there wasn't that it would be an issue i i think when when damian i love together what's what's tough is when you have more than three roommate becomes impossible and place blame in staten we sometimes we had we filter through a lot of roommates in that year at their yeah it was a total how many people overall florida time right it was for the four of us just start then one of her roommate's left out of town and moved out and so we had another girl but i knew from college a little bit us then another roommate of mine that was a friend who college 'em left for awhile and had eight couple a and then they left he came back and then his boyfriend moved in and so and that was that was tricky for me because living with a couple is very difficult so we have two two different couples to defend those times look i'll throw shade 'cause i don't know them that well sometimes we weren't aware it was gonna be a couple i wasn't aware there are gonna be accountable i and so suddenly i think i think the second time he asked my permission he's like would you be comfortable friend move data knows like let me think about that and then as ryan second time was with a little bit more known the first time i did not i didn't know and i was like what is this a and yet there's a lot of a lot of cars in her driveway i would sometimes be a thing you'd get up get up six in the morning i back well gotta wake up three people get out and get out and that would happen sometimes yeah it was a thing just there oh yeah they ruined the pan of mine 'cause they scrubbed steel wool and on the bottom of rats i had to like my dad actional friend and i knew it i was like hey man like the friend who had moving they just destroyed a lot of my like cookware and i don't really know how to bring it they were messy they were member recall we delightfully in lovingly called him a they were couple of the dirty hit moved in i pretty quickly was like they're kind of dirty and damian giving the benefit of doubt he was like no man they're they're great like they're good people like you know i think they're just getting used to it maybe there's like adjusting whatever and then like cut to two months later deeming just like oh my god all the gross story oh yeah i mean i i got a face full of the gross story a way there's several you have a girl you're the worst one i have a different gross story all right you go first so this is really rough yonkers they'll skipped for like a minute and from the half grossly yeah so i just opened the door one day to the bathroom that we shared a there were two bathrooms one with me in this couple in the first couple of the hippie one 'em not the ones that accident i open up the door and i'm just hate with this on godly smell and i realize 'em the girl in the couple was a on her period oh she had taken out eight tampon in wrapped in a toilet paper roll a to be like i'll deal with this later left it on the counter and wasn't running the fan was running be he is a full day of hot air cooked peer for fake just like like oh my that is not cool man it was not particularly hygenic that is that it was a she must have been sell embarrassed fighting thanks i don't they threw it away and although i can't stress like they seemed like people that didn't care that feeling that they're ready nice to like they were ninety lee nice look i i have relatives who are like this people who just are bothered by messy nece at all so their their apartments will be messy their homes will be super messy and it doesn't bother them that's fine but when he lives with roommates that gets really tough 'cause i'm super bothered by that like living alone i i can't handle disorganization i can't handle like if a piece of food dude is just on a on a counter i'm like i gotta get that gross at slimy engrossing will start smell unless it's bananas unless it's been in and out of all over the place a so my gross story was after they moved out they a they were really bad they would leave food all over the place say like are fringe was gross when they were there 'cause they would just leave on open food all of it and like not not throwing things away but after they it was like a month after they after they moved out knows like our like thank god they're gone like nice people but god i'm so like narrative it's nice people not government rights we were getting a lot of fruit flies and i was like what is up with this unlike were cleaning unlike an end we're all us all being roommates we all had are specific cupboards like shelves that were are so we knew clean those take care of those and working so many fruit flies i'm like where are these coming from they're not confirm the fridge there's no food out on the counter that i see eventually one night i look at it at eight covered that i'm like who's covered is that none of us have been using that real while so i go and i open it and i'm talking like hey horror movie just eight swarm of fruitful winnie the pooh lyle are allowed him lack realize out and i think i think damian probably heard from his room me just going and he comes the kitchen is like what you live in what they left to his like i i honestly we don't know some areas a literal blacks sludge in one yeah and the shape of a fruit or anything anymore it was just black and they are as high up in one of the shelves of the cupboard so we just didn't see it and somehow didn't smell it and it just rotted and i'm it was awful a weed through away and then set up a ton of fruit fly traps and just had just a no so this brings us all back to the original point courtney you miss having roommate i think if i were to go back into the roommate gang game it has to be in a house oh like the crew did and as we like people that i know and i don't want people that are moving out of their mommies house for the first yeah so no sorry you're out of the race it forever become roommates still earlier mommy a but yeah that's awful i never got bad like that firming well and also for the crew living together they're all little bit older and just you know like i look back on what i was even like when we were still roommates whatever and i was twenty two twenty three yeah i mean i've i am much more organized and clean now then i was yeah i mean that's just the fact of the matter i think yeah i had a mystery pooper though so when i first moved and i are play so it's like guys sorry like i need the master because i need my bedroom connection my bathroom like i'm the only girl in the house and so you know i like to walk from between my bathroom my bedroom door closed on yet though like sorry that's just the way it is i have to now i i just i and i said i will pay more for himself but so i had my own bathroom and i had a squatty potty a nice one it is to this day i still have it it's like a nice wouldn't one squatty potty guys get him there they help you with their poops and they're very comfortable i don't need hope above my toilet upside down if you just want to stay the spans in air i hang out her back from a guy who might just drilled down my bag only naturally guy how we were just guys it's it's new age medicine now you read your body of talks i do a pull up and then i kissed a little essential oil right it's like what squatty potty isn't even seventies seventies no i just wanna make squatty potty sound old okay so i had a guy hardy an at this is a commodity you know some people commode come a a so sometimes like after a day of being away i leave my apartment's clean spelling normal then i come home and like some roommates are home i open my bathroom door and it's like someone destroyed my bathroom while i win the way who's been severed once a ha and i would i would we had a group chat and i'd be like hey guys please ask me before you enter my space and news my bathroom like mooney in the bathroom go for it but like i feel uncomfortable go through my open my door that shot goal new my bedroom into the bathroom and not totally totally so like they would all be totally lawyer do unless there's some in the middle landlords you know they fly should've just smell awful or like clearly thinker moved around you got yourself a puppy goes he goes goes the worst ones and then it got to the point where like two of the roommate till like dude i seriously don't know what the hell's going on one of them had their own bathroom as well like they're attached to a bathroom there is no reason from going mine there were three total bathroom shows to those i got a one that was connected to other bedroom drew man connected to the kitchen what probably happened is one of them was using it any other one had to take a just massive dump it was like i got a i you know what i gotta enter the layer now dumpers got dumped gotta dump but it got to the point where i was like finding evidence which true made it was like a specific kind of civic kind of herring like i know which roommate only one god will only herring cars like corona not i've seen traci fuses was no it was they had very distinct hairstyles so i very obvious and just like it never it never got dressed man that sucks yeah there's literally nothing better than i think the the number one perk of living alone is taking dumps in your home alone is the greatest thing all time door open oh no see i i love full on security like i wish i had a compound like area fifty one where i'm like well i gotta use the bathroom i go there's an elevator down a little bit like good things are so you in a month and elevator down to the core of the earth say airtight sell like nothing's getting in there no nukes could not affect this place and there is a single toilet and i canoes that guy they're lying to you oh it's up what is your ideal bathroom like what like what would you keeping their in that bathroom in the core of the earth that if you die you'd probably be lost m you know probably some a some nice essential oils like you know like some some nice sense since candler to a one of those like old school like bathtubs that are kind of like stood out in the open not attached to a long while the club after yeah it is one of those just right next one i would never use it but it's just there for decoration inside of it is harpist yeah no doubt that ruined the vibe and had it'd be a robot heart harpist 'cause i can't about human worse can have a human puts implied and yet somehow if i had a cat that cat would still find its way to the doorway of that cell going going underneath rubbing up against my legs when i'm taking the duke and i don't think cats just despise when you close the door and take take a dump they're like no you're you're doing what you're doing in there it's weird ashley 'cause i was helping someone who knew like gotten a cat and it's like actually good the put their litter boxes and more social places like instead of hiding it away a so i wanna be like why are you hiding a boot you she loved the show if you wanna look for the fall yet to drop real do and for the party yes i had a god anyways you did did you have a bathroom connection the guest house when you know when i looked at me and i lived in his back how sorry that was really not meant to just call it a sunroom room attached to a garage that's really what it was that the men on a cement walls terracotta floor you're back wall was the neighbors fence yeah my column gate in the back wall was de cement wall that other side was another the prisons backyard also another wall was just a the wall through the garage and it had a window into the garage even though it'd be pitch black at night sunlight i an extension cord through so you could with our super useful in setting up because it really wasn't meant to be lifted had one outlet in order to try and figure out but i put my wardrobe up against that window even though late at night like i'd be sleeping and i would see the lights go out if you were doing laundry a who is not ideal and that that that garages also just kinda creepy 'cause they're just dirty in like weird yeah found the at a stray cat kitten mayor wants that we had a bunch of a bunch of stray cats made a family a stray cats in her backyard and they would shell on my son ruffalo the time us i wake up and just see a couple of like laying on it speaking of a laying around you're guest house you had an interesting thing it oh yeah a story so yeah i i the guest house had a sliding glass door door in a which when i first moved and didn't have curtains or anything so just kind of like here i am here's my whole room so i put up curtains but they were kind of like i could see shadows moving back and forth on the other side of it and you know people would go in and out a weed and user front door locks so i think it was kind of broken right posit as the front or right or was broken so you had used the back door so he would enter and exit to the back door and a so i got very used to that and a one one day i'm at home and all of a sudden i see a couple figures walk past and i'm like who is that and they just go to my are back here but they're walking slowly and i'm like what he has had a middle of the day why middle of dad's wanna say two or three o'clock pm a day means not home at i'm home and one of our other roommates is home and she was inside the main house so i i kinda like look out one of my windows and i see it's just two teenagers a clearly like a couple a like i don't know how old i'm assuming teenagers they looked like teenagers majors and they're kind of like walking around and i'm like what the hell are they doing trespassing in her backyard and they go around the corner to the other side where it's just like the side and yes i side yard and whatever and they walked back there and i'm like what are they doing back there and suddenly i see his feet lang lang and i'm like all right i don't know what they're doing i i become like an old man here i'm like one of these teams texted me i texted damian and i as they were walking back i send a photo just these people are backyard and there are people in her backyard i don't know what they're doing here they didn't do anything because i opened up my son got store i run into the house shut shut the door kind of hearts then i'm like they'll hear that i talked about other man like there are some teams in her backyard there are teams in our backyard they're up did miss schiff and she kind of walks out were in the kitchen and words like she like what is he doing i'm like i don't know what and all of a sudden they come back around and they're just in the background and they're kind of looking through a window they probably thought just looking at them and they just slowly make their way back and just my and i'm like yeah whatever i don't know if they're they're china like they were trying to find a nice secluded spot a make will be forty sounding like why folks whatever 'cause i'm assuming like they probably liv on the street with their families so they have no privacy or whatever and so they thought let's you know what you know the best ways fine privacy someone else's backyard were there several cars in the driveway tons of like obviously people are home and i'm like what are you thinking they're lucky like i'm like there's a lot of crazy people that lift on that street unlike if you and i hairs oriole person who's like get off my property i've gone back to that and that happens like they're they're crazy people who are who are excited about the idea of someone entering the guy unlike the lucky lucky that i was like just leave please i'm glad i don't have to confront them i'm glad they just left i can't believe it in the middle of the day it was a lot of it made no sense and you mean like literally like young teens are like like no seventeen yeah problem or like that they could have been twenty for all i know like they i had no idea but he looked like a young skater dude and his skater girlfriend like that's what they look like sick sick did it was one of the weirdest instances there and we also had a yeah i was also wasn't sure if it would be we had a neighbor who is the elderly man who had a little bit of dementia i think he was suffering some kind of venture are property is well like bringing are trash cans whatever he was he was really sweet guy but but so i was used i wasn't like i was kinda used to that idea of so there might be who a number of people a wild yeah i i like weird that's scary man i like living alone i think the one thing that other than the fact you don't roommates around jalen ramsey approving a toilet this this fear factor in the like 'cause i when i had jane go there was one time when someone like entered my little yard area and like that scared out of me like middle of the night i woke up the jingle growl in which he always does the kill just hearing noise and he'll grow a little bit like calm down got sleep but like i don't come down too much because i actually like like that behavior like i was very lucky they have to be really good watchdog but one night he's really growing and i heard a gate open and i couldn't tell if it was minor the person next to me but then next thing you know i hear my my motion detecting camera go off like on my phone seconds after my dog detected the person i look at the video and this man like busted through i think any looked like he was drunk but i couldn't tell if she noticed the camera and ran away or like didn't even mean to push my door open but at the time the gate it was like really hard to open like i had to adjust it and fix it to make it easier so i think it took a little bit of work for him to get that thing open i was terrified luckily the neighbor above me a texter like hey what's going on and she sent her like gladiator peter giant boyfriend out so he closed my gave me an even walked around i called the police and reporter that and as i have the radio but like that stuff freaks me the hell out and like if i did or didn't have the roommate attacks like i don't i wouldn't have been i didn't sleep very good that night anyway that's scary i do like that and that's why it's cool like that group thinks he's on my whole life so that's what's nice about living that is a perk also living in an apartment complex yeah like there are people who are generally in the room next to you who will hear stuff like i love in a very busy apartment complex and they're constantly people right like walking past like you're never gonna get a chance tillack there will be people around my landlord lives in the room next to mine which the only park today a planet next she lives in there where she's yeah she's often any apartment like which usually sucks because it's just like i like i can't make too much noise probably yeah she's often like out in about so she would see anything slashes had some weird kind of have any other day that you're all my god yeah i do think i mentioned this to you so i was 'em i would streaming on saturday and then when i finally finished up i looked at my phone and i had like a bunch of miss texts and calls from my roommate and it was only like fifteen minutes before the end of my stream so i just miss it but it was all like hey man allergic to come down here hey dude super jack iphone do cops her here and it was like well and so apparently be a lady that lives next me who's a little older and you know i only met her cause i moved in pretty recently so i only met her once or twice she had just gotten out of the hospital apparently she passed away and had been there for quite some time which is you know there's dining alone is incredibly sad but for like no one to notice for a long time that released sucks and so they want it to talk to me because i had seen an ambulance outside of are place leaving her area like a few weeks back i honestly thought she passed away then i even told me about that yeah you go i remember it was a few weeks ago you were like i think my neighbor passed away and it's like oh sorry i thought happened so i came came home from work right and i see in a firefighter a slash paramedic come out of her place and i like not and smile and he sort of gives a look like you know all i'm not an slaves and then another guy comes out nine not and smile and he does the same kind of like grim look and so i thought she passed ben buffer heard i guess she passed after that and so whatever by the way it was just it kinda screwed me up all weekend because one idea of it is very sad but to like this very thin wall you know separating a person decaying for like a week two weeks i don't know but it was just like ooh i am yeah gary prized if she was having like recurring things like that that she wasn't in hospice or a well she had like a lot of helpers like i often see people leaving her place who looked like they just made like a delivery and she's like all right thank you very much thank you goodbye and so i like can you deliver this and also helped me reach this lightbulb come yeah yeah yeah there's like hospice type stuff some will come by for a few hours a day it happens a lot and you know with the elderly people who leave alone i mean it just it just happens man i mean i i certainly hope you know she she might have just passed away in her sleep or something like that i also wanna talk to me in roomy mark because they were saying like yeah we have to make sure it's not a murder and i'm like oh my god leaving she maybe she i think it was probably a slip and falls i guess i don't know anything about and then you yeah we're at a you know a bill it's so crazy like when it's real like you hear about it or see it in movies like oh this thing but then when it's real it's like yeah not the same at all it happens all the time i've read i honestly it's weird because in these past couple weeks i've read several stories about where it's much worse where it looks like people free years are you mentioned there is one some story i read i don't have the link or anything but i think it happened in sweden eight elderly woman it was like ten years in in her place in some like she had automatic payments set up for everything so no bills like racked up and a somehow the smell or whatever didn't you know in around oh you it is it is really sad though that you know for the elderly people who maybe they just don't have family or whatever that sucks up there just eating away at her funds to like as weird well yeah because that means she those payments shouldn't have been a thing yeah yeah it's tough man it's so tough is watching black near inner afterlife you know i think also there's a lot of my my grandmother was you know she lived alone up until the very end unlike a lot of a lot of people are just very proud end and they don't wanna go living a homer whenever they wanna look look by themselves but at that age anything can happen i mean it's just sucks but sorry to make this a downer had no end line we're i i will say it also reminds me forever ago and i've thought about it myself to cause i'm always like if i in my apartment by myself if i ever starts choking my immediate thing before i even tried to ride it out i sound like i'm gonna open up my front door dominic at leave the front door open and then i'm like if i choke whatever and then people like you should have a little metal pipe buyer doors but you could go out to like a gator something could be like getting naming in like really yeah i just had a bell my own way when they would avoid getting buried alive hotel like kevin that's the thing that people would have the bell i wonder if it was affective i i don't think i don't think you properly suffocate no i think their stories is really a a well hey god that would be the worst oh my god dude you know hey that's a very lively skeleton even be jam or have you ever lived alone damian i have my first ever bachelor pad after she and i were on disney 'em i loved alone who's looking back the prices nine years ago i was just like i pay bad for my own firemen with laundry like oh man i miss those days a great apartment i really enjoyed it i became to reclusive because that's my natural state and i think that's why it's good for me to leave with people like i realized other than like recordings voice over auditions that's good that's right when i started that out i would go like literal days without talking to or seeing another human being and i was like ooh i like this too much i need to not do this from my health probably yeah dang it is a great apartment i would never have left a except for you know i want it delivers roommates again that's when i moved into the house with shannon mother buddies end of routes often grew into the pipe system so sometimes it would backup and me being in the bottom floor i often had poop tornadoes come out of my time no and i was like i ended up clean it up myself 'cause i'm like i'm not gonna hire some poor old lady it'd be like hey can you come on by including the crash on orange none of it's my it's not my stomach poop i know my it's not my i lost so my poop seven smell like that and i just remember the smell and i know a guy with nice though were talking like all black stone countertops in blackstone floor and advertise molding great how long have you guys list together about a year year a little longer right like a like maybe a month or two longer i think at that time that's when i started dating an ex girlfriend in a i ended up spending most of time at her place as those things go so we're still roommates were a big chunk of it but i would only check in once every couple of weeks and be like yeah i love you know yeah you were elected changed things connected the place you go like when you had got it about then you have to leave i'd have to open up my sledding if if it was in the middle of the night i would have to open up my sliding glass door take walk out like past like kinda just a a some steps to the back door unlock lock it get inside then use the bathroom then good backout lock lock the door go back open up my saying that store and then you ever just like just like holy fuck it sometimes i mean yet it sucked man it it really is probably the worst part about it is raining it never read there is a little awning over be a father but we'll her driveway this was during be a fifty year drought that we were in some rain not problem yeah that that was probably the toughest part and and also during summer sun would go through the sun roof heat up that rooms cement and terracotta and it would be i i think it was around in the nineties he's in my room behind has affects 'cause it was agreeing with the greenhouse and it was so hot that i would be dripping sweat in the middle of the night and hope it was really off and then the winter it would be the opposite where it'd be like fifty degrees in that room and i would wake up and just immediately tougher blanket around and just like watching tv in a verb like it sounds nice it made me really honestly before that i i lived in the apartment with great ac and everything ended become a very sensitive to the temperatures are that after that i could handle anything i still don't use my ac that often wow i just like i can handle yeah handle it would i did love though i'm just getting a lot of sense memories right now there's something about your room the way it was set up like you've always taking great care of your space right like if you have any extra money you're like i wanna leave in a good organized space where i wanna buy some closed it made me feel good about myself so anyway going into your room i remember the smell like that wardrobe that you bought that was pine and so it was like a nice pine smell with the heat mixed with the fabric of like a new sofa things like that and i just i dunno i really loved being in that space visit when when the temperature was nice ashley i felt really proud of the room because i'd made was essentially non livable space little and that was cool i mean there's a lot of things that did soccer i get a lot of like daddy long legs spiders in their friendly friendly but they're just so creepy look at what i'm trying to sleep the thought of one crawling across my face was not cool a damn in your room was really cool a i liked him a lot i liked it a lot to it was a it was the master bank you and i you know because i'm a reclusive person if my room functions as like a studio apartment on happy and i also worked out of their word customer support at the time so i had my computer set up which i built it was so bad i had a a a couch out mtv almost like a separate seating area in because everything is a very square layout you could fit everything so i really liked that space i didn't like the walls were so then you could hear everything all the time forever say that was nicer me living out any that was a benefit fit separated so i felt like i had privacy in that weird way but i would wake up some mornings and i would hear damian doing customer support already like super early mornings five thirty in the morning or would it be six it would be like six or seven i think yeah but pretty pretty early especially if i had voiceover get done first 'em and i i tried i did a little game with myself like i don't think i could say the company i worked for 'cause i don't wanna get away like try to whatever sort of like pop up and so so i would try to make my voice sound not necessarily robotic but like a recording engineer it would really disarmed people so that when they figured out a real person they'd be like oh i forgot but i was pissed off thank you for calling baba but customer support my name's damian how can i help you today maybe like a great another recordings i'm like nope i'm a real person i promise you asked me you you really you're a real person recording i'd be like no i have hair emotions everything i'm a human you really say that i would say that all the time i have hair emotions everything motion that is really what makes me person not a robot hot customer timur support rating in the whole thing really cool i don't think they do 'cause i almost got fired from a job because my i was a so when i first started there they were super bad incredible to see see that so when i first started there they were super like you know what we do customer support differently we wanna be the place like fix it no matter what so if someone needs like a refund great if somebody needs a couple of free this great like whatever you do make the make them happy we wanna keep that reputation and it great and then slowly but surely that became like all right guys were corporation and we need more numbers better numbers bigger numbers do it faster do it better so i was still in the mindset of like i wanna help people like people would call in and be like you know hi i'm wheelchair bound i can't move anything but my neck i will be using voiced his speech to type in things today and i can't get out of my account that call might take me in our strategy that person into their account and i'm gonna do that so my numbers start at the window when it was like hey you didn't answer sixteen emails this hour and you're like that's correct i was hoping a disabled man like wow that's great and everything but you gotta i'm gonna keep doing this i will try my best to do what you guys want but i was hired with the mindset of like let's help people that's what makes me enjoy this job so do i ended i quit in the in my a direct supervisor is like i'm glad you came to this decision on your own well i was like yeah well piece so he saying yeah i am i remember one time somehow you you hurt your neck at one point so i remember you doing you had like that one of those like oh you know things like you were doing like this statue colleagues combo that money's damian how can i help you today hair and she's so funny though waking up sometimes it like six in the morning like getting ready to go to the gym or whatever and just hearing the state like so many damian from wherever his buddy likely would immediately get off the clock and immediately charge a dark souls to or something like that after we'd be like all right it's game time i go from morgan stanley exact same chair i was so happy how long bathroom breaks a yeah it was great that house like looking back there's so many stories just i have some photos of my room and i really yeah it doesn't look bad 'cause what made it tough was not how it looked what made it tough was just literally like what it was made of elements yeah what it was but but it looked it looked okay it but a of the actual house i don't think i have any but i'm sure you do i i don't while i did a i think the daily moved in i was very a again i was having stomach problems i i don't know if i'm sure i've mentioned this before but i battled like major stomach issues for a long time and atlanta had trouble eating sometimes would be like a mayor to until i could do that again so i like we moved in i hadn't seen in a long time and those very out of it so i was just moving my car for whatever reason i took out this like a brick structure leading to one of our staircases and it's like well great first day they go security deposit oh picture this so i got i got a picture that oh my god what a bummer i've messed up a couple of security deposit i still get them back the place but the guys the roommate one was fine but janko chewed up the doors oh current one end the one i was living in previously the one i hated and just like a little so small you would therefore around fifteen minutes yeah no i think i was there for like three months ago did work yeah i i try to fix it myself i used it i used that paste the kind of like shaping i send it back down by never repainted it white but yeah so the deposit back in more because they were they were actually plan is terrible they they lied about what my rant was that a lot of things it's great lady no i don't think we could say the name deli in l a's that plays is known for being a but i was a teenager when i first moved out here it was an infamous place you probably can go so if you're in a way you know yeah yeah if you more money okay yeah so well first of all the people listening or watching you're getting an apartment fun ones that are more like mom and pop vibes of of of ownership shipper management sometimes that's better than a corporation because it's not as right off route ones you know you're rent is probably gonna get raised by at least a hundred bucks every year yeah but experience these people they they they said in an e mail an on the tour they said what my rent was gonna be and then when i started making those payments online and start seeing like the base rentals like a hundred dollars more than what they said and normally like first of all they never responded emails ever like until i'm like they were super quick when i was getting in the process of moving in overnight we were yeah once i was in there it was like you'd never get a response and i had one specific person that i would always try and keep my were consistent with like okay i always talk to this guy and i would call the office and be like hey i sent you an email and you'd be like yeah what's up mike reid the email right now unlike he would in like a lot of times if it wasn't like i was lucky that the in the email they said that my role is gonna be lower than what they were charging me otherwise it would be like well sorry you agreed to it under contract so you have to pay that they also on the tour where like oh yeah no security is great here we're gonna keep you super say all day knows what he gets in everyone gets and do all that to say is like oh i'm in newburgh and then they don't even check any credentials like nothing they just let you in and like when i i went back in my contract in in your contract that says like we did not tell you that we could keep you safe from anything we are we are we have no responsibility over you're security we did not tell you that we could keep me safe here like literally protecting their own people like that 'em in super fanatics that's very small says we have tremors don't worry about it think about what jay boombox on the ground haven't tremors in a long time that is a perfect time tremors reference tremors is in austin movie about giant monster worms that liv underground guy sounding will eat anything to is better just so everyone which is the one with chuck norris is that there's chuck norris my completely making that up is that a weird childhood memory where like i i made something up 'cause i've seen maybe i am i am making of kevin bacon in the first tremors i saw three earlier today the chuck norris lives in one of them but i'm i think i'm completely wrong i think that's my memory yeah you sound when i was like six watching a movie making things up i saw tweet the other day that was like they got it while you're jammed i mean why wouldn't that i saw tweeted yesterday that was like a was surreal animated movie or just a childhood fever dream starter kit i saw that once upon a forest back we're back a dinosaur story in rodney danger not rodney dangerfield rover dangerfield so chuck norris is not in them but there is an assistant editor named charles north to the tremors five you're heavy assistant editor i oh this is changing the subject kinda but i remember watching tremors staying with my grandparents in florida i would stay with them for like a month or so in the numbers and as a kid when i was like seven twelve years old and back then you know there wasn't netflix there wasn't it back in my day a soda end up watching so many weird random movies and one time i was watching it chuck norris movie with my grandpa and they comes part in this movie it some cheese each easy like random chuck norris movie where like chuck norris and this other guy i have like each other at a standoff the both of the guns pointed at each other and they both dropped their guns and like lift up their hands and they start you know roundhouse kicks whatever and my grandpa like in all ernest just just goes now see they dropped their guns because they wanna they wanna test each other's kung fu abilities and then there's like he would just pc teaching moment after saying see what they're doing is grandson is they're dropping their guns 'cause they need a test each other income that knows will shoot kwan where these other guys like shallan conclusion legitimately breaking taking down at chuck norris movie is obviously very cute adorable that's a good morning yeah isn't very funny my grandpa used it is and he's a pirate dvd's in given to us by that stat kelly my grandpa could never my grandpa's the most honorable man he could not breaking the law he's not like a dirty rogue like you download the movie the cutout inappropriate parts and then given to us and even even like somehow gal now cover the dvd on the dead cow or adorable bats recover movie so they'd have happy endings yeah like they're all friends but it's just dancing from i don't think i saw the sex scene in titanic until it's like thirteen while a cause i don't think i knew like when maryetta had 'cause titanic was so long if you got it on vhs into tate right yeah so you'd have to take out the first onto the next one am and i'm like what miss i miss that that sort of stuff the same with video games to their yeah and where you'd have to take out the first game got chills thinking of abbas you fighting seven found fancy seven in there like please introduce to and i'm like oh he's my sister's game so i could only get so far and then when i finally made it to this to like we killed heiress no put it just to half the cut that out there doing the remake so many you know you don't know that by now you're not a true gamer a lot of people out there are fair i heard it would you know gamer i'm not true game which is up office you better worse yo i haven't had a single final fantasy lots and lots and lots of star wars buddy the same like they would have been squall pitas required which ones best obviously cloud shame been very fun okay let's guys thank you for joining us response or a gamer cast is not happening marquez jay black panther was rams from final fantasy tactics by the way like final fantasy that's like the enemy of video games in a row and there's more more intimating that like the tail series yeah and that's that's the first rb g i ever played tells us some phony tonio baby that that shit changed my life as a great game in frank yeah kevin knows i'm talking about is nodding editor yeah it's great game really really cool 'cause you're trying to save the planet you're trying to bring back like like happiness and joy to you're you're world and halfway through the game you realise by doing so courtney's yawning but listen listen up how that game you realize by bringing light at everything back to your world you're sucking it out of a parallel like dimension so yeah it was funny is back on the days of shannon i being on so random my dressing room is the one where we set up some game systems so we could actually i used to be i don't know why wasn't reclusive back then but this at that point i was like everyone coming out so we play tells some phony together and it only took like warner to boss fights where like i remember watching something happened i'm like there looks like there is a shadow in that portal like there's so many other side were doing bad stuff right now are we were gonna end up being the bad guys were doing the bad thing in my ten what you had your dressing room yeah we all did yeah we'll address so clever they like how big rig they're pretty decent so i thought i had it through i had denzel dressing room i believe i believe miami it was haunted by demi levato is very much a if they were very cool it is a sweet set up god i remember one time playing dug a player cassie doug brochure it's super smash brothers and i just i was on winning streak and he got so mad he slammed his feet down so hard that everyone in the entire hallway of of dressing rooms heard and like some people came to our rooms like is everything okay so into a chicken some artists don't even worry about and i would save every sort of saving every script and we would go through four different scripts every week and cause we'd have several like writers drafts production drafts whatever and final draft and by the end of my stance on on so random that stack was like six feet tall and lots of paper and that wasn't all of that was just from when i started which is like halfway through i wish i still had those i don't believe i have no i have a couple of script i kept a lot of times i have a script from my guests are on i carly a every guest forever did i kept the script i kept the script from indie film i did in two thousand eight random one's a yeah i did that for my like cartoon i do it through voice over stuff like my cartoon network stuff like a lot of downtime time when you guys were on oh yeah yeah i remember it was one of our final weeks on so random and we were we meet damian in matthew scott watch the final episode of oprah remember that one of our final news roundup and so we final episode of oprah wow end a yeah remember that that was kind of a very sad moment 'cause there's like my whole presenting everything's so yeah neal is gonna be the file like we knew the season was ending and i mean some of us we all had different hopes of if the show and get renewed or not i had a feeling that it wasn't i wasn't very like pessimistic about it i think you were you i would very helpful because here's the thing about it did me shows usually go three of four seasons because that's enough that a generation generation grows up what that show loving that show then they get their age out of it and then the show is done by the time age out of it also like you know you make more money each year with their contract so they don't always let things go too far it's it's a smart money making move for disney tv are show was a spin off of demi levato show it was a chance and it became lab that showed exact but like after for five years you wouldn't have prominent into a right so like it was a spin off where they took the sketch show that was within that show and made it something called so random but contractually it was not a new thing it will be fourth year yeah sunny with a chance and you had a lot of those actors who have been there for all four years so it is kind of run its course and on top of that part of their business model at least as i understand it is if you look like something something like bella thorne show a shake it up kicking it or something like that they sell the lunch boxes they have the ballot foreign clothing line at walmart they have all the you don't get to do that with the sketch show yeah so they make the math yeah i think probably one of the weirdest things in my life has been when i joined smash and just hearing all the same exact things being said about me that i had heard years prior on so ran doting which is i hate all these new people a better when demi was on and now then it became a i hate when smash that it all these new people and then it was better when anthony was on and i'm just like you are that act situation hardman it's so it's people just don't people just resistant to change i think but it's necessary and there's no option like with so random there is no choice like that's that's just what yeah both parties wanted well let's see this first encounter with each other i know the exact moment 'em up sorry tables chairs or shane it already been on the chauffeur a weaker so by the time i joined they were adding people very slowly and so i remember getting on the set and not knowing exactly where it's going but walking by shane and for whatever reason i know this sounds corny but for whatever reason i felt like i'm gonna know that dude oh interesting and so yeah then i went up to the table reason he was there we introduce themselves and they know i remember i remember yeah it was the taylor either i really liked saw him and i was nervous at first because i'd done one episode and they brought me on firm one episode and i assumed 'cause there's like two or three other new people on top of this new cast so i was like oh cool like were the new cast it they're adding and then i was like i'm doing a good job like i felt pretty good about how did that episode the next week icy damian and i go oh god i did a terrible job and they're replacing my view it with you i also like a guy like i would have thought a rap like whatever and then you know you're in the taylor you're crushing it 'cause you had like they all kind of like took character's some some characters that we kind of done in are auditions whatever so you had like a five what was it that you did was it a character that the one thing i didn't a table rebate all wrote for me it wasn't anything already saying well this is the one that you did first it was like the big something kid in in school dombi man or lockwood tallow all up through television one call off brutalities a fake foreign exchange student right yeah and then i kind of the same thing happened the following week which is when are friend matthew scott joined i thought he joined before mid he thought it was you and matthew scott and then i came on were you the third week i think so then i am getting things mixed up 'cause both times then i was like oh god this person's replaced oh he's got was after 'cause i thought i thought the same thing of like he's funny as it's how he just has a presence about him and he did this character that did become a huge hit on the show if i had known like and i eventually realized after like week for those were all just staying on the thought well here's the problem they they brought us on his guest stars right and so the way things organized tv if you're like a a main you know cast member then you're there you're pretty much there every week if you're a coast star it's like a guest situation in that sort of thing yeah there were like hey we're gonna bring you on for like two three weeks at a time and then you know nothing else and be like great so we would do those two weeks and be like i dunno and then they'd be like oh yeah we're gonna bring you on for a couple more and it'd be like oh great finally more work that's awesome and so it wasn't until pretty much near the end of it but i was like oh were doing a full season of the show people ask like what was it like getting the news that you were on this show and i'm like i never got that news i literally thought like okay cool one more week of work yeah one let us know every week if we were on the next episode and said hey we all messed we all they would all make sure that we missed one episode each so they keep us is guest stars is validated that is why because i can't be a regular i don't i don't think but they were very specific that we all were in twentyfive out of twentysix episode so i remember i remember it was also they i don't know if it was on purpose or not but my manager at one point 'cause it's like week seven my manager was like hey what did the chance of him becoming a regular and they're like it's not possible and also we don't need him for next week's episode an angle or hey i'm going for it and i remember that we've just suck 'cause i'm just like because at that point we're all friends whatever sound like create their own they're filming an episode and i'm at home like you're not even i'm not even raiders i don't have any way to get onset week i'm literally not allowed to go on that lot like i'm not allowed their bidding now for this week and then i'll be back it was weird man eight straight months on that show but we were never officially on it it was really trippy trippy experience we all went deep twentythree we do you went to de twentythree engine disney's bid khan and a had not premiered by that time yet i don't think so fruit especially for us new cast like people never knew who we were like especially we'll have a live audience taping and they'd be like oh we got one of the stars of the show bring out saint top and damian kids really good bomba so it was very weird and so again i talked about this the other day with someone but like because we never filmed at a time when the show at already premiered in because i became sort of a recluse after that and went to the gym during the day when kids are in school went to the grocery store during the day when kids can get recognized for so random for like years and so i assume like nobody watched that show hunter we joined smarter people like i didn't put that together those key zombie man those worthy enemy boroughs which character serrated yeah you just haven't showed up this morning between the enemy brothers say say i 'em i was obsessed with the chance i was a big i watched a lot of disney channel when i was growing up and like i was assessed that show that first episode where sunny comes in i i feel like that was exactly how i was when i came in the small just like i'm here is that unlike i remember eventually seeing like oh what's this so random okay i wonder what is it that it's probably the same thing shaw oh i think i a couple of episodes and i'd like to i'd like oh i get it okay so that's what the sketch show the they were making row k click you actually just remind me of some kind of funny years years before it's a sunny with a chance of thing on be original pitch name was sketch pad and i know that because when i was a teenager i audition for that i think the audition for that to learn about it and i couldn't get an audition for it somehow i auditioned for it and went back for like three rounds and this is when i was still in atlanta and i didn't end up booking it but it was for one of the main part of it with sterling nights for part or whatever but 'em when i walked in audition room years later so random like this sounds it's like the same thing like sketch pad was supposed to be a sketch show it became sunny with a chance and then it became back so random so when i walk in it's the same casting director and she says oh my gosh i remember you i'm so glad you're here i can't wait to see what you've got and i was like that's the best way ever start out some nfl have been booked it casting directors at the most insane memory hey did they really do they'll remember shutout share levine certainly being i love you do not or anyone in front of a casting director 'cause they will remember your fate or nay a your expressions i always forget that i knew sterling night when i was a teenager interesting i wish i knew him and we knew like and then i ended up booking that and it was like oh hey how's it going man good idea gas offers up to solve what's up man saw a yeah so random what's a weird time man it seems like this weird fantasy like dream that happened a long time ago but also not that long ago yeah yeah audio only wani so it's only seven years ago that it ended seven here and yeah closer to eight but still that's not that long ago but it feels like a different age well 'em so here you are doing a sketch comedy still we are you doing here you are when you guys from your favorite show yeah so this show then then the the animal bombs on summer on this i just love when i get dm's they're like were you want that so random they everyone everyone's so called it that that's so oh that's funny foreign to that's nuts that's so ray yeah and then i got the sauce job and one of my first auditions ever that's not where you as well as nineteen night while i yeah i i was nineteen about to turn wouldn't even vote canadians oh i was thirty five i'm younger ashley somehow i think i do look younger now then i did when i really i think i think i looked like a dad when i joined i'd also just the way i dressed and everything only after here dark like cornu here was dark still when i joined but i just think i also didn't i dunno i i just didn't give a crap at that point a look like but i was just coming out of my stomach issue stuff and so much thinner 'em like but not in like a super healthy way like like a freaking lady kings thinner now there's like a lot skinny aero had had mostly worn my glasses so yeah i also like broke as a joke for a long time before owning smush so like new flow of water goes oh we're heavy down through my boss at the retail stores at i work like like stained and 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Ep56: Whats changed at Surrey?

Makem Takem

36:15 min | 1 year ago

Ep56: Whats changed at Surrey?

"Welcome to make him take them. Quite people had issued sued week and ready for another thirty minutes so apologies up from from me as funny or for interrupted by cats. I'm managed managed to drill through one of the main power codes in my house. So I'm sitting in the one room in the House that has heating and electricity So it's not ideal the things I will be able to buckle away to it. Obviously I'm joined by Chris as usual. Hi Chris Hey mark. Let's see still alive after that didn't employ myself up a parent talking than I am drilling stuff. I think of a a couple of days we get into the back end of the B. B. O.. Cup stuff now. I'm the group stages Finishing this week Had some interesting turnarounds dancing full change. We expected this. Obviously we've teamed staunch prepare for the regular season but the big one and I live in question I'm GonNa Pitch at you is what's changed at sorry. I don't think it's changed because this is being coming you've been having week after week. They've been competitive games. They've been able to produce you know F on the floor. They've been saying I saw. Maybe just a different level of composure between the team and role players playing bigger roles. Tell with two very big performances. I The game on Sunday. which was they had a massive massive point point tally big shot which technically was a gold ten but we let it it was it? I think it was but you know we we can. We can get VR on that. Is that ever existed but this things like as well with Marcus wight finally stepping off into his position and finally that she playing because they have been kind of underachieving coming forward they just seemed a bit more comfortable plane within their roles and and yet it's not a surprise that salary we have have won back to back gains Hopefully now sets them they can see maybe lie the end of the going forward and stop believing in themselves moving into into the regular season or even more so now with the situation that they put themselves in they could actually find themselves in the quarter finals of the cup. uh-huh yet and that's where we now. They've obviously won. They're lost to anyone. One of the Organ six games. They ran games close. They threw some games away. So let you say. I don't think he's he's too surprising. Strong couple of wins together. I think the thing that I find surprising is the few weeks ago. We have said they had any chance of making Even lost weight. We wouldn't have said they'd had a chance of making it but they've now one game away. Basically as far as I understand if they beat the lions they'll take fourth spot young which she's huge for them you know. That's that's a monumental task One one thing I did want to raise his Roy. Riches signed on a show short term deal with How much impact? You think Ron's rivals had maybe in training because he seems a little bit. Maybe injured or something at Nike. He's not the Ryan that everybody kind of knows what should imply in the way moves but I think maybe just bringing that presence within within practice etc united Joe Friedman's about as well so you know it's it's kind of you know put in place in the practice making them compete and work hard. But that's definitely a level of belief in that. I think it is brought the team back together. A bit you know make it more competitive and stuff like that so It was even on the bench. He was showing that he was with the team that you know so. He's a good character that have around so I think that's really helped them homeless. Well maybe bring different couple of emphasis into their going and looking at it. I think he's definitely made a bit of a difference. The one concern I have is and I'd love to see your feedback. I'm not sure what benefit you get from. A short term contract law bringing Richardson because by the sounds that he's hey for the rest of the group group stages that's how they pitched it originally so I presume he has more lucrative contract set up to stall in December not to show where he can end up anywhere in the world. He's he's demanded good good Salaries across the planet. So how much benefit do you think's GonNa be derived from him just being his cup stage. Yeah you're right because it's when he goes lose. That's the problem. Is that when you take on these high high value players. They might bring the confidence in to you but then all of a sudden he's just gone so it's now now now appoint for to understand united. He's going to go and is he actually the reason or can we get these guys to keep comp- performance but there's something a different about tyrod right now. He's he's back into his detail that everybody knows especially with with sorry So I think it's a great thing sometimes then contracts can be detrimental to your side because it might be a really good thing and then he's gone and you start losing again and he you know he was the reason why. But if he's in there just to play you know just to boost practice to understand to bring more competitiveness. Maybe even to scare people with jobs or stuff like that. That's not the case with him. But that's another reason why you do that. Sort of short term contract deal But yes it is. It can be very productive I I just hope for Kriel on and and sorry. That isn't counterproductive. When they go into the regular season this drop-offs but even when you look at their regular Ella season schedule the first two games Worcester Bristol? said it also is some sort of you know it's not like it's shock who played in so it could actually be benefit more than uh more than a hindrance. Yeah I think so as well you know. He's put up reasonable numbers. He's averaging twelve point two points per game. I'm however the thing that makes me not so worried redes- Yoni go five points in that game that win against the right as Nishat to from thirteen from the field which is atrocious He did however grab twelve rebounds and that's the thing for me the benefit may be sorry can take from this is understanding what they're lacking. Yes you know I mean what is the gap of maybe is. Is someone battling on the boards. I come up with the season before that where they have. Mike roby and that seems to work just a guy the we'll protect the pain and we'll pull down you. Know Seven eight rebounds a game and maybe that's something that I need to look to recruit issue. We've run here on a British possible. People trying to find a British possible plan that can do that is going to be costly very true very true. And it's so now they really you do have to wise up or hopefully the instinct to be able to show on and show the team themselves that we have to focus on this nearly every practice we have to. We have to make make sure that we don't see the statistic outweigh US rebounding wise etc.. Teams compete us on the offensive glass defensive glass. That can't happen going forward because goes with us. We know that Achilles heel so it does highlight it puts more pressure it puts more focus on the players that you know. Because that's something that as well that you can in control so hopefully if budget is not there then they're able to come together as a group and control aspect themselves yet. Potentially you same. Maybe it's just a matter of current personnel stepping up and filling that void the other consent. Happy with God's to Surrey and it Kinda kicks in on on on that game against leads perpetrators they were up by twenty something at the half and you kind of thing. That's a done deal but because I know sorry I jumped onto bet. Three six I five and Snuka fell almost came off me. No wish I'd cashed out but I stayed in on it because they took them. I think about within five points at one stage yet. How much concern is that? They don't have that killer of the mind they don't have that killer instinct where they're closing games out and ceiling out those wings as early. The cat does is very concerning because you know the opposition team you can go down. You've always got a chance to these guys if we can put get our act together and sometimes that zone that they play is a bit detrimental themselves because they lose the pace of the game. So they're they're always low scoring so you ah for a team. That's quite fast of could be very fast up the floor they. They're losing an edge on on what they're trying to do so it is. It is a concern in that concern has always been there because we've seen it before they you know they've through they turn away big point leads again and this time this time. Even though there was a difference in composure I think they are learning from it and they are they. They are understanding. They are to be to put themselves in a position to actually. Now win these Games. I think they find that find that Tayo needs to be on the floor of the last two minutes etc etc which hasn't been the case going forward in in gains thanks before so maybe a difference in personnel understanding each other's actually really help them moving forward. I I'm not sure but we can see as the season progresses but that will always be in the Kelly's healed attached to them so another thing they need to look at yes certainly not straightforward for. Sorry you have a feeling that moving in the right direction I think yeah see test is going to be wrong. Richard steps away like you say as ECOMOG given them that jump-start push them into winning. Ways is not just. I'm Ron showed US absolutely he not. You're seeing you know plays Lac Adrian Keno like you say Tao's having a big big seasoning. Just can't seem to robot years and season so fingers crossed the You know for sorry funds and moving in the right direction. I'm GonNa stay on this Cup theme now moving on to a second question Oversee when now almost sorted north is Solta we've got a full qualifies from that. The South is down to these last two games for the lines. I e they have the flyers and school just still to play And that will just I saw positionings and whether it's scorch aligns who pick up that funnel spoil the question. I have for you though someone wanted to. I know one of the questions in pitched out in who we excited about because the BB L. Cup. I WANNA reverse that which teams you think. We most disappointed by the cup. So far I think it probably is GONNA be For me again it's going to be Glasgow. Qualify For me for what they have but you know hopefully hopefully that something is turned with the with the truth. Talk in this week. That's happened happen. They come back with back to back wins prize. Back in the twenty Rinkunas is making shots. Fraser agains over seventy percent. They're finding a way to win. The question I have now is supposed to Sir Kabbalah. Maybe he's a little bit underperforming with the performance but something is something has clicked in. Somebody's being called out in that position. but to personally whatever happens this week. I think the most underrated where it's going to be the most disappointing team would probably be London if they don't get through on Wednesday night. Yeah now for me. The one off put down straightaways lines they sit with the three and five record This is the team that won on the league last year and then now potentially not gonNa make it through to the quarter-finals not makes them you know the best team in the league this shit on the you you know the initial initial which is crazy to think about because yes. They've lost players. You know they did lose tab. Great Platte Bristol. Great Rim protection action of paint defender. But they've still got the likes of Brandon pill they've got Justin Robinson. They've still got huge amount of talent in there and to not convert that to wins wins. It just don't understand it and you know even if they make it through two fourth again. I'd be interested in your thoughts on this. Even if they snatched that fourth place. I'd I just be disappointed. If I'm underlines fan of lines me me too because like you say they have what they can put on the floor. Ready is probably more in production auction. And what sorry can put on the floor. Definitely what Plymouth comport on the floor There's more this more scope to it. You know there's there's a visit visit actually death debts and understand into what they're doing so to have this type of star In competition especially where. It's not not like it's not. You're not playing a birth of twelve teams your claim I five teams playing each other twice. So you and you're able to watch watch. She's a games as well so I to look at them and not to be in a better position right now not to have secured that fourth place position is a bit. You know. It's very disappointed instead for that organization. Yeah I think so I was running a and for me. I think the London city royals have played so well oversee they lost that game two lines in Cup about George. He's probably the one highlight line season so far but for me. I think the fact the royals are playing so well. They've done it with injury issues as well L. makes it even worse for London lines. Are they losing the amount of best team in London cause that ultimately is the baseline surely. If you're lions fan that you need to at least the best team in London I think that the channel is sustained sides and City roles have definitely definitely the king of the Capitol Right now and that they're the ones research showing the progression even with the loss. I think you know it's like points out. I mean you see this weekend you take two twins out and K. It's a little bit different Neighbors Noise productive etc but they still have a way to win and in a in a close game. I think that's where the twins really push them over the edge with minutes. They're able to their around but as as going forward to see where they are in the season more comfortable betting embedded on city eighty rules than you are on the lions because they're just unpredictable right now even with the roster that they have bringing back players that have played law season in that championship side and Jan.. You just wonder if they are holding out for so to join Impact has that had on the team said well if the if the management on taking this talk Deng's seriously because they're holding out and holding budgie back to we really need to. You know what I mean does it. Change the psychology that maybe they think you know this is helping helping change really really care about the League Cup away. Yeah it's it's a dangerous one because you can have eclipse at one point of the season. So they're going to get together again. Go Oh again. And then they're gonNA drop again and then they build themselves back up and are they going to take themselves out contention because they didn't prepare themselves early. You know you can say what you like with. The you know you know that you know that clause go will change and improve They will bring players in so you know that that progression for them is up the London. I still don't think they understand who they are to be able to move forward and this phobia so does come in is GonNa work straight away so you know the funny thing I have is around London. Lines is probably the same that worries me the most which is crazy right. Yes you think about the league that we've got. Aw you've got giants who we don't even talk anymore because they just an anomaly sitting at the bottom of the league and until they can prove something else that's why they're going to be they all the dead set Favorites finishing bottom of the league You know and that sad but that's that's the way it's looking at the moment for me. Lines are the ones where. I'm not a much disappointed frustrated. If I'm alliance Fan you know pretty annoyed at how things have gone this season so far and just wonder whether they're going to go. You see other team starting to make those changes we said it. Before this cup competition this will be used as a preseason. You know these players will play these games you seen it new costs that they've released Mitchell. He had a strong. He had a strong performance. Why will buy accounts an interesting personality and that might be one of the reasons they also have possible issues? I think with the GAULS WHO's come in and in the back hopeful them. So that Kinda made the decision. Ed but you've seen the make changes. Obviously pepper has retired. which really bizarre to hear that? Come out of the glossy situation. Obviously he released Russell as well but teams are making changes in preparation now whereas what lions doing now they just sitting waiting to put what money that got left into Tovia so code orange ever grand plan with all the players on ready to go yeah. I hope it's the latter because if you just sit in a waiting do you understand why Plymouth you understand why Plymouth Sorry Manchester. On in the top of the moment you can understand that but London is no even with the rest of that they have this. No real understanding why they haven't secured so hopefully you're right if I'm alliance Fan. I am extremely disappointed. And I'm expecting more to come So hopefully they're able to deliver and start turning around their season because because people were already on that track they tended around this season they all making the moves now so let's hope that missed the boat. Yeah fingers crossed has lawns fans pleadings change up for them. But this is makes silent developments teams I think outperformed to everyday expect them to be. I'm one of them for me. Is the Bristol flies. I'm currently on a six three record code. Just got lions left apply if they win that finished second in his southern group. If they lose a Finnish said They've only lost one of their last six games and that was only by Foale Foale on the road to the wolves. Probably one of the hottest teams at the moment full is in the League is the Bristol fly so the question I have for you is off Lahser talk full team finish it again. They they make you they make your mouth water because you can see the way they can be. It's just the consistency in that side. Are they able to do that because yes I do believe that they can be that taught full type of type of team if definitely not the top six for me. Yeah just you know what I funding frustrating because I want to say are they. My head comes in and overrules my heart and says think back season enough to season you know there was relatively new franchise in the BBDO but yet to prove that they have that staying power because that's ultimately what it comes down to a team COMPLA- the entire season at a pretty good level that they don't have too many dips in the seasonal. Don't suffer from injury injury problems my head kind of kicks kicks in and says. I'm not sure I'm not sure they can do this. And the biggest concern I have is. Are they leaning too heavily. On the to Thomas's those guys combined for thirty ninety four point seven point six assists one of them goes down engine who picks slack Yay balance as well when gem unit she plays with these two. Because you know you hope they don't go on the route as well with start hunting or anything like that because together that that three together is a very good playing playing you know playing position but they all they are all the time one injury away from not sure. What's next or stuff like that? Because you saw that very early in the season when one player's out they start to panic and try and solve each other's problems for each other but hopefully the development in there is continuously growing and understanding understanding who they are because these guys. These guys have the tools. He's got a very big sky side he's looking into the roster go deep in this roster he has ever he. He has everything to be able to To pitch to be in sales writing on the wall that we can be taught for and have home-court advantage in the playoffs. So it's it's containing that it's holding leads as well you know. They are susceptible as well Bristol to get an elite and let him pink teams. Come back at them twice against Worcester So get this these little things within their camp that they go to look at themselves and say okay. We're GONNA make the next step. I don't think Kitts Roster based Gets that I think it's the way we approach some things some games and how we're GONNA play further all agree with you. I think that one thing that I really really lock in the moment a lot you said he's running pretty deep rotation running potentially down to nine or ten men which you just don't you don't really see it in the BB l.. Most people run seven. Maybe a approach on rotation. I like that because some of these younger guys. Some of these S. experience guys are now getting minutes in as an storyteller point about it not necessarily really an important policies in the group stage in other groups. So they're getting these minutes. Nice styling to find okay if I'm needed. What role my take no? He's a defensive. Stole Primorye provide a go. I ten fifteen point game every now and then and they're starting to what that out so I think running these deportation now will pay dividends when they come to the a crunch because their rotation shorten as the season goes on there's no delays about. I'm they'll lean heavier. Illness styles season goes on. But this is what I'm talking about when they get it to the back end games. Maybe there's an injury to Gentry Thomas Fred Thomas. Oh don't let one of the biggest names these guys can potentially stepping is a half minutes Sunday. Their belt so I think that could play a big big part for the flyers to make it through the first round of the playoffs atop four could be huge shape. EXE- selfishly actually a three-game series. Now yes so top four now actually really is massive and the teams like Bristol. They made the top four will they could quickly be in a semifinal the playoffs they can because they have the home base. They got the fans to do it. You can see today that sell out for sure that make a lot of noise. They get behind their team. So you know the way. The League structured going forward this season playing a different league structure on it into the playoffs. I think it really really benefits that jump this season. It really helps them a lot as going forward so it would be always in the Kama mind does not have a team. I WanNa see do well. Because they're always on the on the bridge they're always they're always there so are always really really interested in watching Bristol to be out to take over that next step because they are interested inside and I love really liked what they're trying to achieve as as a unit so I really hope the season they can actually find them little things to get right to push on and really make an impact in the playoffs. Yeah and I think most neutrals in the the B. B. O.. Kind of a second team Bristol. Because people like the way they do it. They approach this humility about what they doing. And they building organic Cleveland not just plowing in in an investing money that they can't afford so I think there's a lot of respect for that kind of up. Well primarily me of belittle this baby cup thing this could be for the likes of flies a big step forward. Would you know where it stands at the finished. Second or third if they finish second. They've got a real chance of making it to the semis. In my mind. Because home game against against Newcastle Eagles. Yeah I think of them as flavors in that game at the me too me too finished third they've got a trip to Sheffield. Yeah Yeah favorites. You know I think if you look at that now maybe the Sheffield game is a better match up for Worcester and the new Casa game is always a better match up for For Bristol so you know tendencies would play if you're looking forward and maybe hoping the the better games that you want so I think they get overpowered a little and and with the God play at Sheffield comply. COMPLA- could be a problem for For Bristol so hopefully they can play. They can be able to go back to back and take take that position yet. Things Cross for them you know. I think there's a real opportunity for them to make waves in the B. B. O.. Cop for these small teams in Cheshire. One of the other year they big statements and they really help the smaller franchises for the big established teams. You had to cut runs a noise. But they don't make the impact would for small team. Lot Bristol. Oh okay well moving on to question And this was stemmed from a question that Alyssa Gilfillan sent into us Connor gave a bit of a tweak. The final question I have for you as we finish these out group stages as which rookie bb l.. Signing has been the most impressive. You can Dan say you can't say Andrew Lawrence because he is a BB rookie however coming into the league. You kinda know what he's all about We always knew he. I think he who's GonNa play into that to me though. It's his team mate It's just teammate. Matthew Scott I think he used to be extremely impressive for Abebe a rookie that season. He's always been. It's been the most consistent player for the United for the roles. He's put the royals on his shoulders. A couple of times taking them over the line being able to play very well Neela Camila scoring high. He does everything is he's every play guy and he's really been the one that actually you know stood out within in this first phase of competition for me you know I have to agree you know. He's twenty one point seven rebounds two point four steals I and he sometimes difficult to come into an organization a lot the world's particularly when they bring him back at domestic all. I comb like Andrew Lawrence. You'd expect everything to fall on his shoulders. The Nice thing you've got with Lawrence's. He doesn't need any to not egotistical. He doesn't need to be the Magnani doesn't eat the ball in his hands on the points choked up against him he wants to come in and win and that's played well for skull you know. He's he's coming in like you said in gains. They've needed him to take over. He's taken over. He's read that situation really well. which is red? We don't see that kind of experience and expertise coming in an overseas come from pro and Germany pretty good level BEFO come into the BBC but yeah now he's talking my list as well. Some of the other guys. I've got down ejection. Cut The phoenix a good impact on both ends of the floor as well. You know. Eighteen points seven rebounds seven assists and. He's actually I feel confident. Homefront enjoy what Cheshire Pie for the first time in a long time so I think he's. He's a big one Gentry Thomas Down at the flies was another one And then potentially actually. Colorado riders is doing a good job of being a bit of a floor general in waltz a bit of a mixed up season so far for the ride as they seem to be settling now in funding some full form. But it's not been the plain sailing that we usually expect from the riders. Now he's definitely you can tell us where when Cartwright's out the the riders that they're missing a tech as well so you you see the impact. He has another player. I like that's come in and I didn't expect it so much. I expected it more defensively. But he's become you come around guys is Mark Hughes was so I think he's had a very good start to the season. He's he's under under the radar guy. That's going to be able to push forward. Would I've been pretty impressed with the first. Dnr Fest Phases of competition with him as well. He's he's really showed that he just not just defensively but you can put it on offensively every night to put rebound etc etc so it's You know there's a couple of good good additions to the League. And it's it's exciting to see where these guys go. Next with. Down in season from Amazon would vote. One one source molly's had say on the best. BB Rookie said. Yes so I think yeah. Hughes's being a big upside for wooster as well site I like this game. And what he's bringing to the wolves and Just trying to always important benchmark stuff in my mind so How do you feel the new faces in the BB L. This year stack up to kind of recent years Paul? So we've seen I think a good class of new faces in the BB l.. This year will less than previous years. How do you think stuck? I think it's I think it slowly growing. I think it's it's hard isn't it because you never know what you've got let's go on and then you guys and the we will never be able to write this class 'til next year united and level of competition the seen it all the way through but I think this at this there's been some dominance in some players. There's been you know the one off the for me. Is Jackson Cartwright's well. He's a different dynamic with speed etcetera. I tra- Scott Different in a a mentality. That's able to pick up for players etc so they they come at different value so but you always that shock of you never really find out how good they are till next season comes and you can judge them. You get these guys so but the class against a very it very stable I think there's more to come as well. We'd be talking about rookies in Christmas as well because you know of a see changes etc so i. I think we're done with this conversation going forward. No the sites tough A few games in ten games into the season to make judgments early. Kelly is going to be difficult. The one thing do raise is not spoken about many British players whereas in previous years I feel what we've seen an increase in quality British players coming into the League oversee lost here slot. Normally we have matched manning and Hamilton coming in on the back of the crazy money that was being spent in London. See Two worlds. Yes we've seen Lawrence this year but outside and I might be forgetting someone apologize if I am outside of Andrew Lawrence. Are we seeing a huge amount of break. Talent coming back into the league. I don't I don't think we always seeing similar faces. It's still good British talent in the league. But we're not seeing you. Please come back in the likes of Jordan. Spencer's luckily and you know. And that's a concern. I have is I felt lost. Maybe we're having an epiphany where we're going to see good bridge. Plays coming back into League but Andrew Lawrence coming in and seems to just just be an anomaly rather than poverty trent him and mock I suppose that is joined the joined the league into it. But that's that's concerned concerned that we gotta keep moving forward and make this league attractive for these guys. Stretchy come back and play you know. Because the they they will be the the foothold and foundations for the development of this league and also the game in this country. This is an anomaly. I think sometimes we're extremely too quick to push Kush. Instead of developing kids to professionals we push them to United States. Yes of course they get an education filed but when not helping all game grow at the same in time as well because we're always farming out so we becoming the import export saw so of situation instead of developing your own and putting resources resources into into our programs to be able to facilitate that. Because now I I'm not to convince some coming around the League at the moment and you see the facilities the ventures but the same the same within clubs still exist that he coaches doing everything in a win win win designating in people properly to be able to develop these these things to to make ourselves better to make make the sport more professional within within an organization. So there's still a long way to go but that type of thing instead of just farming kids out and that she trying to find some sort of retention this is definitely the next step that we she needs to do. Yeah for me retention. We're not just talking about domestic Its way talking generally for the whole league it still still is a one and done for me as a league. You know you see plays come in if they have a good season that golden if they have a bad season then going to be resolved though we saint so much Chad how to fans fall in love with clubs and playas when he's a completely different faces every season they turn up. We need to be a situation where we're building consistency longevity and that players know have commitment from clubs and clubs commits plaza. Finds Blind to this day that you know they can see the same faces might be one or two changes is but the team is a stable. Core is held together each season. Because until that's the case I don't think the League's going forward. No it's like you're making changes because you have to make changes it's not like you're making changes because we we were good. This season. Look Look Manchester for example. You not making changes because because because you want to improve your for you need to get better within a certain position making changes because the money completely changes so there is no development skates. You Got Euka Like you like we were saying earlier about bringing younger players into play within the cup competition as well at the beginning of the season to Denver debt to in your roster to put you know experience into these players to play at the level so you actually have a structure that can facilitate it you actually. It is also ashamed. She's not here when we talk about. TV and stuff like that but but you know there is that structure here is just. I think the the clubs labs just don't utilize in Warri instill about older problems instead of change in just a mindset freak elitism as a mindset. It's not actually what what you put on. The floor is because you're mindsets Lee. You drive elite so I think there's a mind shift shifts that really just have to continue to change it. I agree and I'd love to see it happening by down to the moment you know I just feel like we got from from one rock to another hard place to to a mess to through A to K. It just doesn't fill out take steps for some clubs. saintly are but as a whole is a sport. You just don't feel like we necessarily taking steps forward that we need to but you you know I think. That's the biggest compensation I think we've got back to the original question. We also I think. Yeah we've got some good new names in the lake. While I'd love guessing. Is that those guys build careers in the League. Like ah I mean in the hey where we so play is not necessarily state the same club. They did new the united to know that it's not as if they were. You know play. It didn't like you knew how to get under the skin out Coolum Allah and that was that was the relationship you're able to build but fingers crossed. We can get get to that and I think you know some of the organizations that building tools that on hopefully they'll they'll drag some of the smaller organizations along with them into that momentum tim because I think that's going to massively helpfully going forward okay so that wraps up another episode of making take him finish week. Thank you Chris. Joining me saints. Thanks for having me and Cla Molly thinks making you make him take him debut amount of job for next week. 'cause probably what she said. It's in a minute I said in the whole twenty five so he's listening and his well I'll listen to the numbers a holding. Listen strong So there are laws Jay. I'm if you want to suggest any questions topics you'd like to discuss a few trips. Please do send an email to Team him at make him take him dot co UK. We love jumping in on the topics. 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157 Reddit Gifts (Internet Secret Santa)

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157 Reddit Gifts (Internet Secret Santa)

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That's why x t dot com. Tell everybody what does this room. Two girls one podcast. You are in the right place if that's what you came for. I'm jen i'm allie. Welcome and i are performers. We have a show how to show a live show called blogs where he took the internet and used it as are the script put it on stage completely verbatim. We then had a web series. Two girls one show. Would you can find on who ha- we went on scripted. Adventures met people by an internet post. It was really fun and that all us here two girls one podcast with daily dot and our producer. Matt is here as well. Hi matt hone happy holidays to you to an alum. This is what we're doing. We talked to people by an internet communities and phenomenon. We find fascinating and today. We've been trying to get this one for years. So we're excited and it's seasonal. it's it's mad seasonal. What is it alley. We are looking at ready gifts today. yeah we've written moderators and other people from this community for think literally the past two years but there's this one user who posted the number of states that she has sent gifts to she's participated in i think nineteen exchanges and so i just reached out directly and said would you be willing to talk to us and she has bestowed this holiday gift upon us valuable gifts so but just for just to clarify a. It's ever calls it gifts but the sub reddit is our slash secret. Santa and you give and receive gifts to total strangers. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. You you are getting quite the gift this holiday season. I knew i am well actually. It's not so it is a gift. I feel like it's good. He mentioned snow coming for a little while coming coming for a while. 'cause delivery times they not comes from amazon prime so we've thought it might be fun. Matt just guess maybe what it is and just give you a few hence is coming. In late we think ash it has four lambs. Maybe a face what do you think. Oh is it a dog tired tried. Fostering a puppy and it didn't work out that well dude another guess. Is this real. Yeah this is fucking real. You guys are expected. I actually. i'm expecting with our child. And the adult baby. Adam are grinning over here. This is if perforce listening. I this is not. This was a suspicious to me. You guys near alley knew know we were supposed to record this Like two weeks ago or something and eliot chomping at the bit. We're like oh we wanna talk so bad. This is amazing news okay. So june june. It's a girl was my next question. Okay three girls one podcast. That is so. Oh my goodness i don't know what to say. I'm so thrilled. i thank you now. He knocked her up. Well we're gonna have a lot to talk about matt off air. Because i don't know how to raise a kid. No one does going on center. Essentially gift genting over your head and tell everybody what it is. Okay let me. The gift arrives before she has to listen to the draft. But don t dullness. Turn it down. Okay go turn it on. Turn it okay. So matt so we. We've always called. Jen's mom jam jam so i get the little ones yet. It says baby jam and it's a writing any day now. I'm pretty excited about back. It's not the most exciting thing. But i'm pretty excited about it. It's a present yourself since everybody knows what it is. Except i know the suspect. Okay back backup. Backup this okay. Sorry this is personal. Personal for the podcast. This was months years in the making plan now. Oh spur of the moment accidental. That it was going on accident. Is that really true. Baby and child if you're listening to this song missile accident but i think i miss software person. I think i think everybody thinks about themselves but like classics nine pregnant. When you're a lady is that you stop getting your period. And i didn't realize how long it had been. I was finally this time. Just not existing quarantine seven months pregnant. But i am. I'm about to enter my second trimester. Which is insane. I only found out about a month ago. So i was like nine weeks along and it was like. Oh my god that is so common. Jan which is why it's fucked up the laws china say that like abortions have to happen in the first eight weeks or whatever because most women don't even realize they're pregnant right right. Yeah but were there other things weird things happening to your senses in your body like my wife. Ours was planned and all that. But like i would take Take out the garbage from the kitchen. And she was like five rooms away and she'd be like what's that smell smell became superpower alma sudden superpowers from new york. Yeah that's lease like. I think i've had all the symptoms but luckily none of them too bad. But like when i started to look into. What are the symptoms. I was like. I been feeling every single one of these things. I thought it was like a weird. Maybe like half pm. Se kinda thing not really experienced the smell thing luckily ago. Yeah yes yeah. Yes yes yeah. That's huge here. Exciting bill listeners. Who've been with a long time like gen started as single on this practice and she s right. Yeah and she's going to be a mom going to be a modest and it'd be among for those of you who might be wondering we will get married eventually. That's what i said to my dad. When i you're probably married child lock. I will say because you've been so open with the listeners. Great but you guys were. I mean yes. It was an accident. You guys have been talking about how you definitely want kids. And it's been a conversation we that's what we said we were. We were like this was in the cards. It's not the order we would have expected things. Come in but you know. I'm thirty seven years old. I mean totally all right. Everybody well we got to get into this we. Actually we don't have trivia today. Is that right. No no no you gotta you gotta interview so before we get into our interview. We're gonna throw to a quick break and then we'll be back with gifts. Thank you for the second best gift. Chance having a child but after that thank you so much to our patriot supporters at the ten dollar or more level patriot dot com slash. Two g. one p. Yes thank you. So much to chris harrison jerry duran jessica box. Melissa eliot james dosier deborah dubar pants tabby phillips and indeed also matthew. Scott thank you so much for your guest and have a beautiful holiday season yourselves. Great holiday support for this. Podcast comes from state farm here with good news and even better news. The good news state farm has new lower car insurance rates. The even better news that means you can now get the service and convenience of a local state farm agent at surprisingly great rates state. Farm can help you save more cash and get the good neighbor service. You deserve just talked to you. Local state farm agent or visit state farm dot com to find out how much you can save on your car insurance when you want the real deal like a good neighbor state farm. Is there all right. I'll of you elves and holiday. Sprites out there is an interview. Please welcome to the show. Janet who was editor who's participated in one thousand nine gift exchanges. Welcome janet hello. Hi nineteen exchanges. Do you feel tapped out by this time of year. Not at not at all really so funny because throughout their day of several exchanges throughout the year and as soon as i send off the gifts for the one that i'm doing i can't wait to find out what the next one is going to be and who i can send presents to my gosh. She's a giver before we go too deep into your personal experience. How would you describe. Read at gifts to someone who is not familiar. Say some of our listeners. Perhaps i usually describe it as a large community of people who want to send gifts to strangers on the internet. Okay beautiful that was. That was that i love to welcome. Thanks for having me fall from a secret. Santa's that right. Yes yeah the. I guess i've i'm relatively new to the community. I've done a lot of exchanges now. But i only started on last year secret. Santa but yeah it's site evolved out of a secret. Santa and people just loved it so much. It became this year long thing. And it's awesome. Do you know how many people currently participate for this year's secret. Santa gift exchange there were a hundred eleven thousand approx about one hundred and eleven thousand people who signed up. Not all of them wound up getting matched. Because you know there are certain things that just wind up beato for some reason. Somebody's email address balances or something but yeah it was over one hundred thousand. The largest they ever had was over two hundred thousand for like their ten year anniversary. Oh my goodness and what drew you to read it gifts. I'm not one hundred percent. Sure i got like a push notification from the site. I was fucking around on like people do and there was a thing that popped up that said about ready gifts and i said i don't know what this is so i checked it out and i thought don't do that because i buy christmas presents for the same people every year and they're awesome people. I love like. I've pretty much given them everything. And now it's just a little. Maybe they need to get some new hobbies. This whole thing has kick started my real life gift-giving to it's just the whole thing is like i don't want to overstate things. But kind of life changing wa. i really just. I don't know. I just really enjoy the whole concept of like i know fuck all about this person. Accept what they filled in on this form that somebody else designed and i'm gonna just ship them something in the mail and hope they like it and they do. It's pretty great. Let's talk about it. How do you go about choosing a gift for a stranger. How much information do you get. So sometimes you get a lot. Sometimes you don't get very much the very first one i ever did. I was like oh. I am fucked. I am never going to be able to send this guy something he will like. It's the exact opposite of me. My first person that i had was a financial advisor in the midwest who loves hockey and kito. Oh that's like. I do community theater and like does not. That's not like what i'm alive to get you. i'm like i love hamilton. It's fine. But i did some research and i found out about his hockey team that he liked did. I found like a sign from one of the hockey from like what hockey guys. And i sent him that and some kito stuff and he had golden retrievers and So i sent some treats for his dogs and he loved it. And i was like oh my god i am. I am all in out of the gate. Dead and four thousand dollars later autograph. That i that i won. I definitely spent a little more than once. It got rolling. I was like. I really want to make this christmas awesome. Whoever he is. I get matched with you. And it's not even. I am like a normal but there are a lot what you're just a normal person. I don't know that's already false. I can tell there are people on this. That our ge-like kajillions literally like bill gates gets one every year. Famously dog is in there. I'm pretty sure that google like that company does it. It's just like you don't know if you're gonna get like an awesome bag of your favorite candy because that's what the person can't afford or if you're going to get like a. Ps five tesla. What's the best gift that you've received. The best one i ever got was for the coffee exchange which was a couple of months ago. It was all coffee and tea and i received i had in my little questionnaire i filled in and i said that i wanted something local to wherever my we all even. If it's not christmas we always call each other santa's so wherever my santa lived and My santa that round happened to be in pittsburgh and they sent some delicious coffee from pittsburgh and a like a mug. That said nebbi on it any b. y. Which is pittsburgh for. Like being really nosy like hiber regional slang. I'd never heard that word before but it which was great. The president was great but they also emailed me. I don't know if they are like a video editor or what. But they made this little movie of themselves shopping for the gifts and like they went into the shop and then the the girl in the shop was like hello. Janet here is your coffee from. It's it's at gifts this beautiful like short film about how they chose my gifts. It was so touching and sneed. And i still watch it from time to time to like jimmy up. It's so nice that's again. Saw some two thousand twenty porn right there a hundred percent. That is totally how i felt. I was like totally overwhelmed and watching people get vaccinated. Okay how does it work right. 'cause i assume you're not giving people your home address or maybe you are no you. I'm not because. I use a separate address for all my man with but it is a little bit the first time i did it. I was like totally cagey about like. I only used my first initial and like i like. I was super cagey about everything. I put in there but in all the years that this has been going on the mogs post about this every year there has never been an an incident like with somebody being docks or they're being no. I know it is a little bit. Like i seriously doubt bill gates is like putting his home address on shuck in red it gas. But so there's like things that you can do to kind of safeguard that like near. Use your real name and some people post like. They're amazon list and like all kinds of weird interconnections on their facebook profile or twitter or pinterest. Or what have you. I don't do that. And i'm like i'm a little more little more private with my sharing my online persona with some stranger. Is there a spending limit. There is suggested spending level of twenty dollars. Okay so it's like it's accessible to pretty much everyone if you're if you can't afford to buy food or medicine this probably isn't for you but if you can't afford to buy food or medicine you're like an extra twenty bucks laying around the you can totally participate and there's not an upper limit and i know that there are people who like in the forum on on read it people will often say oh i can only afford to send one thing this year and it's like nuts fine. The most fun part is getting to send something getting something cool to and it's cool to interact in that way to see you know what somebody else interpreted what they thought of what you said about yourself. You mean by overall like it's really about giving it's not really about getting that's lovely lovely. You seem like this sounds so pollyanna. And i don't know i don't go around like inviting inviting street people into my home for a home cooked meals or something but i do like to give when i can and this is like i waited. It's just a way to participate in the world in a different way. That's beautiful and along along those lines. You crazy lady. You did it this year. Just started. But you've already done nineteen exchanges or something what's happening. I am completely obsessed. My boyfriend is sick to death of me talking about it. He's like oh my god. I'm gonna justin step. Like i can't wait to tell them how much you hate this. He's gonna paid. I just hate hearing about it. It's just. I don't know it's fun. It's fun to shop for things that aren't for me like you. Get some retail therapy. But you're not stuck with this shit in your own house you can just send it off. That's great especially this year. Which has been so shitty. It has been extremely shitty. It's extremely shitty so having something to look forward to and honestly like getting snail mail is is really nice. It's nice to like have a random package. Show up. And i suppose on some level maybe there is some fear that it's going to have poison or a bomb in it or something that's bringing like the risk is like so low. Yeah totally totally so janet. You said there's a special form people fell out. Do you ever go beyond that. To kind of stock. The person's read a profile to learn more about them to yes for sure. I definitely stock on. Read it. I usually don't go farther than that like i the first year. I definitely googled mike guy and like look. This is so fucked up. I did this. I looked up like what like his house on. Google maps did. And i was like i wonder which car is totally weird about it. I haven't done that since then. At the reason. Sign up. But i was. That's like as far as it went printed out a picture of his house and then sent him a picture of his own house with a with a red exxon a bloody x now. I just like cut it out of. Yeah i think that probably if you asked a lot of people that participate. They do that but they wouldn't like admit it just it. Just this is. This is positive. But like i i wouldn't i wouldn't since then i don't like dougal if they don't include their facebook profile or anything. I don't look that up. Because i don't know i feel like it's not in good state and there's stuff that people wanna keep private just because you're doing an online anonymous gift exchange doesn't mean you want some woman like just like i don't know knowing about your mother's your mother blake recovering from alcoholism or something like to get involved in in whatever stuff that people are doing but i do look at their read it posts and i've never had anybody that like that helped me with at all. Generally speaking people like just post comments on read it like. I agree with this. And you're like all right. That's pretty boring. I don't really care about your whatever your thing is like. But that's as far as i was talking. I know some people really go. Deep lake google searching and trying to. I don't know it feels like it feels pretty invasive to me for that reason i fill in my form and the form is like. It's you know it'll say you know what's who's your favorite actor. And what kinds of hobbies do you have. And this year. They added the thing that said. How was your year then. He was a little weird. But i was kind of hard to fill in. Because you don't want to be like well you know it was. Twenty one is fine but yeah so. The form is fairly straightforward. It really is supposed to give the person idea about like it. Ask what size shirt you wear and like what other things. You're santa might like to know about you if you're like really into motocross or something then you put that in there. We'll see i. It's funny you're saying the red common history may not be that useful. Because like i feel like if you found my read history which is not that hard to do. You would know exactly asked noting the obsessive stuff that i'm into lies like video games. I'm playing what shows. I'm watching all the like because ready to so like a whatever you are obsessed with your in that sub reddit constantly and that seems like unless you will only lurk which may be a lot of people do a lot of people do only lurk and like when you sign up for radic gifts. You have to have your account linked to a red account. It doesn't need to be you could lincoln fault. But it'll be linked to a red account. And i think a lot of people do use alz because i've only had like one or two that have any type of history from see. Yeah just a lot of them. Interact with the secret. Santa sub reddit or secret. Santa's what a shame because that's really where the you get to know someone. But i suppose people if they're maybe the draw for me and it but i agree with you. I read it is read. It is very useful that way. Although in in some ways it is to me very boring to go through. Somebody's post history on read it. I find it so boring because you have to. There's just if somebody posts a lot that's interesting to me but if somebody just comments a lot i don't really wanna read people's internet comments sure which i don't know if that sounds bicciato now but it's like you would you would know where they're commenting of like. Oh this person comments a lot in like the autocad sub reddit. It's like okay. I don't know shit about autocad but like clearly they are. They're not catastrophe designers. So that gives you clues right. I share and i had a rematch. My first christmas secret. Santa i signed up to rematch. Where you can you can sign up. Give a gift to someone who's first santa didn't come through for them that i know but it's a that guy was a like his whole personality was fortnight and his raise credit history was like crazy. I was like this person does nothing but fortnight morning until night streams himself playing for eight. He's got a blog about fortnight. Like just fortnight's wall to wall. And i was like all right. Dude sent him comfort night stuff. I don't know if he like. Dixie never posted a thank you stalking matt right now. And he's like super active on the star wars forums which surprises no. We're squadrons which is currently as holy cow. Yeah look sidebar sidebar alley. You like star wars right ideal of star wars. Imagine if you could be in an excellent for real talk about this latest talking about the fastest game and it did okay. So that's lovely and it's so nice that you're stepping up on other people fail and there's so somebody might fail but it might not be their fault maybe late day shit exactly could completely be a piece of shit and that likely maybe dider something. Yeah it's a really positive. It's probably true. Given social coast me. And i like imagine that maybe they actually got in a car accident. Percent of those guys like yeah crash. Their cars are dead now for sure where they gave me a month later. Almost like i had surgery. And i was like. Oh well okay. That was real. As you're bring this way down coca cola okay. So so secret. Santa is like prime time right. Yes have you mailed out this year. Skift received this year gifts. Like what's on what i have done. Both i have mailed out and received my gifts this year. In fact i am enjoying part of my twenty twenty gift right now. I received the twelve coffees of christmas off drinking a cinnamon flavored coffee. That i got secrets easily. Okay and you mentioned there was like a coffee. Tea exchange like what are the other types of exchanges that happen throughout the year. They come out in batches and this secret. Santa they just do. That's the main exchange. And then they do a christmas cards where you send a christmas card to somebody and then the last couple years. They've also done an ornamented exchange But throughout the year they released these batches of like like ten or twelve different themes every couple of months. There's just such a broad variety of everything from gaming related. There's like a harry potter exchange every year. A yup young or i should say there was one this year. They probably don't do it every single fucking got a lumo. Snacks light switch. And it's fucking off. That is pretty cool thank you. Thank you do a book exchange. That's like just obviously all books They do one that is like last year. They did puzzles and they did. Yarn and needle crafts and one. My favorite one is the is the hometown where you send something from your town and then you get something from somebody's hometown Do like fun. Go pops and harry harry potter and they did like a british exchange. All british stuff Pro wrestling halloween and they almost always have one. That's what they call zero credit where you don't have to this got no spending maximum or minimum where they'll do postcards or keychains or something that you know you just send somebody something you picked up at the local shop in sent off to somebody. It's pretty fun cam actually do this. Yeah sally evangelizing but you one hundred percent. Should you know i. i'm not gonna lie. I'm really into giving gifts. And i think i'm pretty good at it. A little nuts in twenty twenty. Though i have to say you did a number of gifts during gen. There's another one on its way. And you're receiving at this week in two thousand twenty twenty twenty. It's like really fun to surprise people with random shit because everybody's life miserable true true although you know it's sort of funny because i feel like everybody's walking around and like low grade misery for decades but like in two thousand twenty. We got permission to be like. Oh this fucking sucks. Everybody's allowed to finally say like. I'm not happy with the so. It seems like this community. It's very large strong community. It's driven by goodwill how amazing we love that because it's so hard to find on the internet but aren't there any like unusual or heartwarming stories. You think coming out of it and or like you personally. Have you formed special bonds with people that have lasted beyond an exchange for example. I haven't yet although the person that i sent my ornaments to this year. I love her so much. And i just really like. We've been messaging each other. And i i feel like we're gonna stay friends probably but there's been stories of people who have met and gotten married and there's also sometimes people get matched to their own spouse highly randomly randomly. Like in their own house or honest. I hated especially because your boyfriend hates. It might be like. Why are you even doing this. Get a stranger and you get yours schoenbrunn. There's there's definitely i i would say there. There have been like life changing gifts given leroy especially. Yeah for sure. Somebody needs something specific in order to change their situation and they put that in their questionnaire and their santa gives it to them. They're this year. Best buy participated as a santa. And although i don't know how you're supposed to give a gift to best buy. But but they participated as santa and the person who the person who had who they got had put in their questionnaire. Like i do not want you to shop at a big box store. Something pop in local and they got best buy sent them but best buy sent them a. Ps five and giant tv to play it on. Which if that were something that i were going to get. I wouldn't be particularly life changing to me. I don't have like. I don't have kids to play something like that where there. I don't have anyone to surprise that to surprised with that kind of thing Also i don't know where i would put a giant tv. But this family. I certainly would be able to sell it. That's for sure but this family like doubt was it really changed their life. They didn't have like that and they got to got to have that for their christmas. So if somebody wants to participate how easy is it to jump right into this whole thing super easy. Okay super easy you just you. You have to sign up on time. There's a just joined. But i missed a match for this year. The next one. I'll there this year. They added a new feature for people who missed matching. And it's like the. I can't remember what they called it but it's like it. Also second chance matching for secret. Santa has been completed. So i think i also know that would actually. I hear there will be many more. There will young february. they'll have the next one. I also just found life changing thing. The very top post right now says my santa literally gave me the gift of sites. Haven't been able to afford new glasses for about two years. This is amazing. Oh there you go. That's incredible it really is the kind of thing like you're filling in your questionnaire and you're like oh you know i i hope i can get new glasses and twenty twenty one and then somebody gives you new. Glad it's crazy it's crazy. It's so nice. You mentioned that this has this gift. Giving to strangers has improved your ability to give gifts to your own loved ones and family and friends. So i want to hear about that and also i talk about this with my wife a lot. Her love language. If you're familiar with that concept is gift giving like that is at the top of her list. She loves to do it similar to la and it's not really mine. i find the holidays to be a bit burdensome. Because it's like okay time to get gifts for your family again end. They still have no hobbies. So what the hell am i going to do. And i find that frustrating and tedious and also find this amazing. Because i would love to stock a reddit user. Find out all the cool stuff they love and then give them a cool thing that they love because that is different from shopping for your family which is tiresome sometimes hates it definitely can't be tiresome especially get more interesting family members who have hobbies. That's what i'm saying. That is the trick. You just trade them in on the secret santa. That ship for new families is that it's easy and twenty twenty because everybody just needs activities to do at home both drill so like family members who are boring as fuck but i can send them activities this year. And there's there's like this shift. That happened with me is sort of thinking outside the box and not assuming that i knew everything about everyone around me like i've obviously i've spent decades and decades knowing my parents but you know you make assumptions about the kinds of things that your parents like or that your siblings like now. I happen to have that. Luckily i have siblings. Who have really intense hobbies. So it's like super easy to shop for them but like my old like my teenage needs like what are your teenagers. but now. I've sort of like i've opened by ears in a different way. So that if they like mentioned something like write it down. And i'll research that thing and be like oh it just it kind of opens your mind to listen to them as a gift recipient rather than like my boring relative but you gotta listen to them in june i. I just never remember to write it down advance. It's it is kind of tricky. But you have to train your mind to retain that one thing that they dropped. But i also have found like it is now my family has always been like give a gift they can use like. Give them like a books. Books are great gifts in my family but like toys not so great but now i've sort of gotten myself into this thing like no. It's okay to give fun gift. I got my boyfriend. He's he can hear me talking. I'm not gonna say what. I got him this year but it is my favorite thing that i have ever gotten anyone and i live. I know no not really. This is the thing that you know. You hear somebody. I overheard him like watching a certain kind of video on youtube. Not that kind Certain on youtube by this guy who picks looks and he was watching all these lock taking videos. And i was like i bet he would like to learn how to pick locks so i got him like a walk. Thinking sat with like all kinds. It's with a instruction manual. This is not something. I would normally ever give a person. Because what's the point. But he's gonna love it. And i can't wait to give it to him. I love it. You thought that rather than he's a robber think. I think it's weird that these videos exist but the ali satisfying. I wish i remember this. Yeah totally so think outside the box any other gift giving advice for us analog folks who are giving gifts kind of in person or just you know. Don't don't worry this is going to sound terrible. Don't worry if they're gonna like it. Yeah they will like it and don't talk yourself out of it if you have an idea and you're like i wonder just do it. Just assume they'll like it if you if you think of it and you know them and you love them. It's probably going to be a good gift that's cool. I like to go with things that are like kinda cool that don't think the person would ever splurge for themselves. Yeah it is nice to give somebody especially if they have mentioned it three or four times lake. You know. That would be great. Unfortunately you reach a certain point in your life where pretty much. Everyone has already gotten the things that they want. Yes that's yes gipps do. I'm like oh now. They have that they have that you have too much stuff is three categories. You have too much stuff. You don't need more chachis someone number two. You have everything you need and you can buy everything yourself and number three the person who has an intense hobby who is like obsessed with this thing. I don't wanna shop for them. And i don't want people shopping for my hobbies because if i'm going to buy something i'm going to do like four months of research to get the perfect thing for my intense hobby and you're gonna buy me like the shitty like walmart version that i definitely want killing me. Yeah i usually in that case default. A book related to that thing. Which is you know. it's always everybody. I can use more books on their shelves. That's those are the things that like. Don't clutter anything up well. I know you mentioned that. There's a couple of high profile people. Bill gates some celebrities involved. Are there other funds celebrities stories with gifts. Well i know that. Adam savage participates every year and he usually gives like a a something that he fabricates which is pretty cool but of course on the other side of that somebody has to send adam savage a present so last year like a sort of celebrity within the red gifts community. This guy who makes lock boxes that you have to figure out. How dare you have to do like a series of clues to figure out how and under gift is in the box. He got matched with adam savage. That was kind of a cool. Cool thing there's also a guy called the architect in the red it gives community who makes scavenger hunts and it. They're really intense last year. His gifty he flew out to. I believe los angeles and this year had to scale it down a bit but he yeah he liked flies somebody to a destination they have to do like this grand scavenger hunt and then at the end like there's a. There's a gift that they get. So it's there are a lot of people who really go all out for this for this program. It's pretty cool. That's awesome alley Do an oscar final question or doubt. They don't question was gonna see what's the best way to suddenly tell someone you want more ones. He's in a matching sweat can't hint. You can't hint. You gotta be a matching switch. Sweatsuit gotta do it. Yeah well now. I know great. Thank you sent me candles and even though candles gift. It's not adam makes these candles and they're fucking awesome. I've never enjoyed so much. And i'm so excited for my shipment that's awesome. There is nothing like hand made. It is that's always a winner and this is where jinja campfire man. You don't even know that sent is some good shit came over and he was like it. Smells like a woman lives here. He was sadam project really. Stop talking now thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. And i hope you guys have an awesome holiday. Thank you jim already are. Well that was delightful. It really was heartwarming. I'm not even participating and i feel so uplifted. Do you think you're really going to do it. Yeah i do. I really want to. Yeah yeah did you sign. You signed up now. I joined the read it. But i miss the matching but i am kinda. I'm kinda into giving gifts. Yeah i like it. Harry potter one. Though i know how good ideas for people but the problem with harry potter fans is like it's hard to tell what they already have because like most potter already have a wide variety of paraphernalia. Because we're all free. Yeah which celebrity or big box store would you get matched with ideally. That was an element of me now. So strange but i gotta get like eating like an electric bike. can i get matched woah. Yeah no that's indoor walker electric bike die from brooms rumor. They don't they make no noise the electric they just add about this later. No another silent. You have have you guys. Not what kind of new yorkers are you when i was seen irregular pedal bike has sound. But it's not looking it's not. It's not an engine an engine. Yeah but a word. Yeah tell everyone. No one of my go-to gifts. This year please. My friend ory runs a spice company. It's called burlap and barrel or it. So these spices are so fucking good. Think i've sent you jan. You have in the past independently by myself since then because they're yeah they really are so good that even if you're a cook like me just like automatically takes your cooking to the next level because the spaces are so good i've been getting a lot of people burlap and barrels everyone's at home in quarantine cooking and check it out not getting any cut but not this spreads out. Pay this love you want. Updates on jen's pregnancy. You can join our discord discord autograph. That's right you can tweet at us at june. Bugger j. o. N. b. e. r. I'm at ali gold ally. Go l. tom. You guys are talking about these bouche in the trivia question a couple search back and I wanted to relate a story that i read in an interview. He once he was staying in a hotel and a woman called up and such as jessica. When it's to steve semi and the that It's sure me and she said no. It's semi in front of said. No and she said Well either way like talk to my husband's his the italian name sicilian pronunciation is shunning. When his family came to america in brooklyn they anglicized it to these even though he's the only one In america seems to want to pronounce it that way so it's just a little fun fact about our friends do much that's awesome. Thank you for telling us tell. Call us with stories. I love good stories. Like that's i didn't have to participate in so i like a lot right. Also cbs's jamie then like kind of his alter ego. I love that he can go home and be boost semi. That's pretty awesome. All right well please texas or call us. That phone number is three four. Seven six five four eight. That number pin three four seven can also come to our discord like ali said discord dot to one p unless there is in fact our patriots. So if they want to contribute. How do that you can visit patriotic dot com slash tucci. One and. we hope you'll consider doing that. This holiday season. 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118: MELNYKS BEING SUED BY A CASINO, LRT IS HERE, MARNER'S DAD, LOSING TWO POPULAR 80S ROCKERS

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118: MELNYKS BEING SUED BY A CASINO, LRT IS HERE, MARNER'S DAD, LOSING TWO POPULAR 80S ROCKERS

"What did hear you say I tell you utility. Belt Robin in Steve Warne projects sports and whatever hey everybody welcome to the show as always we're talking sports at having some laughs it's episode one one eight Warranty and Jungle World Sports Talk Radio Mates now reacting to what's happening in sports and whatever else catches our eye. How're things James Stevie things are fine. weird thing happened to me. How are you oh I'm fine and by the way I have to say you have to say that hang on after say that the show is assisted on the play by Jim Kaye Ford rb computing all Insurance Ontario and Popeye supplements. Thank you for stopping down to fake way asking how I'm doing but Carey Stevie. I'm on. I'm on I'm on twitted. What's called twitter okay. I'm on twitter and member. I put up the picture of Arnold Palmer. The other day was ninety years and I put up the great shot. I have a me and him when I was cutting for so I'm flipping through it. I like to look back and I I see a little message under under that post the little the the envelope one on Steve that I'd like to go to not just not just oppose flip on there and it's after I read the post actually from from from some girl who said when she saw the picture. There's the hot gym that I remember. Oh My oh my stevie. Oh Bowel Bowel. Yeah anyway ended up ended up. You know she was telling me you know we hung got a little bit back in the days. When I guess one thing led to another Steve this whole forty years I back in the day or now know back in the day St Back. She's often married now and all that stuff but I said. How do we know each other? She goes well how could you I forget. I said well. It was forty years ago anyway. She was saddened by the fact I didn't remember Steve. You spent a special special night together and you forgot I I. I remember every moment like that like in the past I was trying to regroup. I was trying to figure it out. I I was impressed arrested. She remembered Stephen and clearly like I've been bragging to a lot of people. I was probably pretty good back. Then we do say so yourself yourself anyway so what was the club of choice back in the day Nouvelle Talk. That's the do you remember that place. No I don't remember that one at all and I went to I went to all them while there was Tabasco's and Novelli pock disco Viva Tabasco's for sure pre caprice something else around then Shalimar Best Shalimar best bar. I think was another one yeah bunch. Larusso was that there when you're a little older than me not much but a little Lorenzo there. I forget all right by the time I got to haul every night. Steve Steve. I was absolutely correct so I just followed the crowd when you're only over there because he had a few on the other side exactly so those were of the days anyway Stephen Little. She's only human steve the young lady obviously a massive impression. I put on her back in the day back and forth start. Chitchat destroying stoke those embers well no she. We had a nice conversation. It wasn't wasn't creepy out or anything she was. She's being funny brought this up and so I was I was an amorous with the whole thing for a while so you increase route. That's all I can say all right what I said so. You didn't creeper out. No I just had had this. She said No. We don't you remember me. I don't I don't feel my brother or something and she goes. No I was you ooh it. was you and I said okay. I know what I'm going to do. I want to find out more about this. I'm just going to pretend I know it was me so anyway. Well a good You know what one of the songs that might have been playing that night that special fateful night that you could pull anything forget might've might've been a song by the cars might have been a song by Eddie money a couple of absolute classic. hit makers acres from the nineteen eighties gone. I remember the cars you days in cars. Do know in go-carts do no. Nope nope that's Gary Numan. These are the cars uncommon to stand in. They just what I needed. One of my absolute favorites upstairs at the Richmond arena many many parties upstairs there you play hockey and go upstairs and joined the fray and that was an absolute favorite anyway. The lead singer of the Cars Rick O. Casick went onto a bit of Solo career as well passed away today. That was very sad news Eddie money famously for this song. Ask Yeah and also take me home tonight and a bunch of others. He passed away as well so a tough few days. If you're a fan of music from the nineteen eighties as more of a disco guys Steve Back then all right. We are getting to that stage. Steve were guys grew up with her dying. They're dying now sports and Music Heroes and the like Mike and Movie Stars Yeah we may have to maybe we'll get a sponsor deal with the deal dead or alive Stevie. I don't know if anybody sponsor that don't you don't you folly Ali. Remember when I said Robert Stanfield who was I. I don't know if he ever Sata's prime minister but he was certainly leader of the Conservative Party right. I said well he's dead now and then and then someone said well might be the walking dead. I just saw that the uh-huh walking around you know he's not dead anyway. I thought he was quite old and it was also also one of the day like I think it was. I WANNA say was like John Ritter. Maybe Johnny cash dying on the same day that sound right and yet equally irreverent EVERINGTON that one too. I'd love to find those God kept hours and hours of the old show. Maybe maybe can find that. I know what it was Steve. I know no it was John Ritter was in three's company. Come and knock at your door. Remember this team. I remember this go. To's company to own. No No. I got it for you. Here it is this is me my my impression of you do 'cause. There's nobody home kiss. I'm Dead Sea. That's how you deliver it Steve. That's deliver it. I mean. Have you ever done a eulogy. I wonder I wonder how it went. Well on. Johnny cash died too and I was like I hear the train. A-coming wham o o done the stories there. Stephen gives us more time to talk about other things boom. Powell right there yup out in any event okay Jimmy. We just as uncomfortable as the first time we did it. We've got coming up. We're gonNA talk about Eugene. melnyk being sued by a Casino Mitch Martyr has resigned and we can all get on with our lives now we got light rail in the city of Ottawa and a whole lot more coming up on this episode of the WPA podcast and of course it's assisted on the play by GM Kaye Ford Lincoln employee pricing is back at Jim K. Lincoln repay with Lincoln Employees Fan Select New Lincoln vehicles. Now's the the time to get that Lincoln. You've had your eye on Lincoln employee pricing in the new ad home test drive now a Jim Carrey Lincoln drive in Orleans or check them out online at Jim K. Lincoln. Dot Com. Tom All insurance. 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Popeye supplements has you covered with amazing snacks like protein popcorn cookies chips gumy's and more unhealthy and still delicious. That's a win win. Popeye supplements six Ottawa locations or Popeye's Canada dot com Eugene Melnyk in the news once again after a fairly quiet summer by his standards and it looks like he's being sued by Casino for unpaid gambling debts. Let's so it's a casino in Connecticut that Suing Melnik for more than nine hundred thousand dollars they claim that he tried right and failed to pay them with bank drafts over a winter weekend back in twenty seventeen so this thing has been obviously going on for some time and now they have finally decided file this lawsuit it actually was filed back on July nine but I guess that the media just got around to Kinda tracking that down and and noticing it and saying no well. There's a story we'd better talk about that but the casino management is alleging. That Melnik tried to pay hey the casino with five bank drafts totally nine hundred thousand dollars March Seventeenth Twenty Seventeenth at a twenty seven that weekend and the draft were then dishonored is honored by a bank so the casino wants the money back and then fifteen grand in damages costs and interest what next what next for this guy man. I gotTA admit though Steve. When you do a daily podcast when you're flipping through the Oh what what what what do we have here look at this. Let's see what we got all that. Oh boy you gene stiffened with a million bucks for nine. Hundred grand alleged a highly a couple of things Steve. How does it get that far so maybe a bouncing checks okay. Maybe it's maybe do bounce checks. You'RE GONNA have to deal with that follow but as soon as you hear from them Steve. He's he's gotTa know. Some people Steve someone free up a mill. I need to borrow mill. I gotta get this thing off. My plate people talk all the time about maybe doesn't have a lot of the kind of money that he once had but I mean nine hundred thousand dollars is still for Eugene Melnyk relative chump change so I'm assuming that his take on it is yeah. No you guys have made a mistake well as the alleged billionaire owner or whatever he was tagged these supposed to have a ton. It's just it's just getting sort of weird with this guy but if you're looking for Melnik side of the story I guess his lawyer said in an email to the CBC that he expects a swift result to what's a nearly two and a half year old dispute wouldn't comment any further further from that but I would say this. This is my feeling on it. I think a bigger headline at this stage of the game is Eugene. melnyk has smooth successful successful business transaction. That would be more of a surprise because it just seems like every business transaction. This guy gets involved with just seems to turn sideways things got ugly with the city on a number of occasions both with Lebreton and with the Soccer Stadium Mayor Jim Watson is like he spoken fairly grimly the about the business dealings that he's had with him. Alfie is left the team twice. You've had countless executives run screaming aiming from this organization or be fired like it just one sideways business deal after another. This thing is a little different. The story is Eugene. melnyk wrote checks for nine hundred grand and two years later. The casino is suing him for that money right because the check bounced so there's no middle ground here steam. It's not like for example. Antonio Brown has been accused of this thing of a terrible crime so there's going to be two sides of the story. We've got to wait till this thing suss out innocent until proven guilty. There's there could be some other issues in there. Besides what people you think might be cut and dry this things cut and dry Steve. It's cut and dry. You wrote a check. It didn't clear okay so there's no. There's no there's no word Steve. There's no few station in this thing. Okay wow tha- are you and what have you done with Jim. Okay that's well. It's Blurry Steve. That's that's what obvious Gatien means so. I know that word so there's no there's nothing there's no more waiting well. We gotta hear the other side. You know first of all. It's fraud right to write a bad check as law right you can't do it. I wouldn't want to speculate I mean this. It's pro it sounds like a kind of a black and white story but you never know you know and I just say like remove this storyline but you know it could be for example somewhat someone acquainted with Melnyk who may be Rodeo things on his behalf or something like that. I'm not saying that occurred here but there's always variables that sneak into discussions that otherwise seem black and white but it's it's it's still not a good look and and you know when when we're like two and a half years at this stage found timing interesting because again is July ninth ninth that this lawsuit was filed and there's a little part of me. That feels like there's this this well. It's the middle of July. I don't know if we want to break it. Now might might be more effectively breaking. You started training camp like I just seem weird to me. That's the big world of negotiating though right I get it aw I train a-coming inter all around the city of Ottawa Ottawa. We've kind of moved into the big leagues transportation standpoint or at least that's how some people are describing it. After more than six years multiple delays ace a giant sinkhole worries that it won't be any good at all in bad weather or at least it will have maybe glitches we finally got. Light Rail in Ottawa and people were lining up and we've got this one line right. It's called the confederation line and just basically this one line that basically runs downtown and I'm Blair road tons pasture and so it's it's got it's fairly long but it's still a lot a lot to do in this going to branch off into various different parts of the city but I mean it looked like people were lining up for a I don't know I was GonNa say Garth Brooks conor. That's getting a bit dated now but I don't know a Taylor Swift concert. Tell us to ride this ride the rail for the first time Billy Bush stevie billy concert eyelash. I wish I wish just just keeping current Stephen. She's huge yeah. She's huge. She's big. She's giant. Ah Sorry I digress. Go ahead Chinese pasture to Blair wrote. My theory was is like people were lining up for this thing to write it. You know it's going to be here for a while. you'll have y'all have your chance but everybody wanted to jump onto it like it was being first in line for rock tickets of some kind. I mean on on a sort of semi serious side. You know if you're going to become a big city man. You gotTa have that Shit. You gotTa have Rapid Transit. You want to build you got to have the big arena downtown Steve. That's what brings me to think of that like like Edmonton is doing we've talked about before they got this giant arena downtown and the development around rounded crazy so finally catching up catching up to the times well. I hope it's worth I mean you know. I say this all the time when I'm thinking of buying something cool. What do I want more say. I'm buying an IPHONE. Do I want the iphone or do I want. The eight. Hundred Bucks in the big picture is going to move us. forward. Is it going to create jobs is going to make us a better city as a result all the studies that go into it right the city goes out they study in you know economics and all that but this is also the same group that came up with this amalgamation plan that that was a slam dunk. That's the way to go and and there's no shortage of people in this town to think that that was not a good idea so I hope that this all works out great in the meantime. It's a pretty exciting weekend weekend. We just had to see it in town. Everybody's pretty pumped. You gotTa have it. I don't care if it costs three billion. You know you gotta you gotta get. It creates all sorts of stuff off. Steve Better better areas better community. People are suing the city expand Stevie a little bit of Urban Development Urban Sprawl that you've got this light Light Rail Transit that will whip everyone downtown like nothing just saints. TBN old urban planner myself okay. It's a good idea. When were you in urban planner. What the Hell Are you talking. I don't know just make this stuff up. Steve Anyway welcomed welcome to the two thousands autumn. Oh okay you got a light rail. Transit System. Does Edmonton have that Edmonton. I'll tell you what they do and they're expanding it all the time and however however when they opened up new routes okay when they lay down all the track and they open up new routes just a small glitch. Steve Small Computer Malfunction that the crosswalks okay across the street of course. You've got all the gates eighteen minutes. Steve when the when the gates went down to two they opened so that was a big hit for a while. People try to you know some of the never never came up anyway. They got all that worked out stevie. The gutter all worked up even glitch that they had that work because again it was five or six delays before they finally launched this weekend and the repeat their media people in town like Matt Harrison Sierra. He was counting it down. Sago Light Rail is now one hundred twenty one days late and so on and so forth Jesus but there are there are some meaningful glitches like there was there was this discussion about how it might not be good in the snow. It might not be good in winter. Conditions conditions like what and that's that might have you might want to have a look at that. You don't want to necessarily say Alabama's Light Rail Transit. We're a little different up here but it seems to be all ironed out now. I like the way they're counting it down. Steve like it's like it's Apollo. You know we're GONNA launch. Judge Eighteen hundred something in their role in the first car off the Ford Plant. You know well. They kept missing deadlines. They kept missing launch dates. They said we're going to be ready hit and then they weren't and then they ought to be ready this time. I remember late again so that's what they're counting down. They finally got to the point where let's just count down until it actually happens. I that's funny. I it'll be fine folks on behalf of the RT Commission. Just not sure how it's going to work in the winter months yeah 'cause. That's a really short season the winner. Hey Happy Mitch Martyr Day man. It finally finally happened on the weekend. Thank God all right yeah. Mitch Martyr finally signed on with the Blue Team. It's a done deal six years. He's sixty five million dollars so he is sliding in underneath both John Taveras and Austin Matthews and ends up the six year sixty five million dollar deal. He's ahead of William kneeland so he's got that going for him which is nice but he comes in kind of in that that third seed it kind of makes me wonder what the hell the delay was actually all about because everybody kind of thought. This was where it would inevitably end up. Oh Steve Every single year this. This story was been has played out every freaking out by look at today every news and sports APP up that I have on my phone. There wasn't just one story. Okay Steve signed Friday for the ten point eight over six six years. Whatever it is a giant contract so there's that story finally signed martyr okay and then a million other stories. About what does this mean for the team. What does it mean for other players. There's one about this is a contract for all wingers who played tough all kids who grew up dreaming all this shit all this shit like like Mitch. Martyr got a new liver. Steve or something keeping with the theme you know liver every year. Steve every year their stories about guys who are going to sign not sign unrestricted restricted free agents contract. We contract extensions. You know the thirst for it. Is I get it. You know so really the story. Steve Martin is with the leafs. He's a restricted free agent correct correct. He wasn't Arafah. Yep Yeah so and they've got to try and sign him. Dubious is going to try and spend his magic agit care. What the team they're going to have three or four guys if they do sign him to ten mil that'll be beaten up forty million a year? Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and how about this for a drastic turn of events they signed him. Do you know what I mean Stevie. I mean I know this. I know ah these are really one off things for me you know and when it comes to a Li kicking off again this shit happens all day long well we always joke about it being the center under of the Hockey Universe and and we and we say that in a sarcastic way and the rest of North America really the center hockey universe but if you look at it from just a strictly objective financial standpoint you know what it is. It's the center of the Hockey Universe and that's why everybody caters to it the TSN ends the sports nets and they're going to feed the beast. The beast is hungry. Feed the beast and that's how you make your money obviously so that's why we're here so much about it obviously but then on top of that it is a compelling story because we've never really ever seen this level a little bit with. Chicago Blackhawks yes like they paid so much money to four or five guys in Jonathan Taes Patrick Kane Duncan Keith Brian Seabrook rent seabrook and there was some other guys in there as well Marion Hosa so they were very top heavy when it came to finance. We've never seen anything quite like this. We've got four four guys right now. You have four guys on the Toronto. Maple leafs who account for half of Toronto's allowed spending so it'll be really interesting to see if Carl Deuba says made a mistake here or he's a genius right all of that being said Stevie all that being said they're making this thing to be like the the dig Gretzky got traded or Leonard didn't raise waiting to see if quite Leonard Ovary sign that was a huge story giant story. You know this thing is missing a bunch of Shit. That should make a big story. One is if he's coming off winning a Stanley Cup okay so to me. It's is not very compelling. It's I don't find compelling at all that the guy wanted twelve million they were going to give mate and they settled at ten okay. I just don't find very compelling but you're not Lee fan though Li fans do and they make up a massive number of people out there so that's why you know it's it's a it's at a sink for sure. There's no question about that but it's it's the leafs that is how it is and that is how it will always be that we're going to be force fed all all of that and it's great for leaf fans for everybody else. It's too bad so sad yeah one of the one of the stories I did like out of it is they're down Newfoundland you you know what their training camp and they all had to. They all have to kiss the COD stevie. I don't think I've ever been to New Zealand no but I have kissed a cod before. Would you know you can't kiss the COD steve unless you're newfoundland. Ottawa hosts wine and food festival every year and Newfoundland was the big theme one year and so everybody. Nobody insisted I do it so I kept saying you have to do it. You have to do it. I'm like I don't WanNa do it now. Wish I knew I could have defended that way. I have to be a newfoundland. I can't do it but I we know that rule well. All the deal is you gotta kiss the fish and a bunch of guys and then you drink a shot of screech right. Okay screen screeches like ethanol man pure. It's like straight rocket fuel this shit and I remember I worked on summer out here actually a West when I was going to school in Ottawa and there are bunch of Newfoundland user there and they they they held me down made me drink the screech. It's awful shit. get down being attacked crazy what they do. After I can't remember Steve I was so hammered I just. I just woke up tied to my bed. You're going to do anyway. They all AH good for them. They were down there. They all went to a bar and they they did the tradition of getting screeched by the way on the Mitch Minor Front. I don't know if you saw this like it's it's been a while but you know it really wasn't a story line because we didn't know. Mitch Martyr would develop into the kind of player that he did but you you've probably I heard the tale of Palm Arner Mitch Mars Dad and that he's a well as they go totally over the top hockey parent and guess guess was CBC National Back when it should be eight years ago when Marnie was still just a kid playing minor hockey AAA hockey and a great player and everything as a kid but still a kid and they were profiling these these they called it involved parents involved families earned minor hockey and such a huge way and Izzo they have they still have crystal clear. HD video of Mitch Martyr at their skating around with his dad wearing one of these big giant tooks hats hats with the big ear flaps on them and he's being interviewed by the cameras while his sons out there and saying things like well. I think we all get a little wrapped up on at once in a while but boy it sure would be better for the kids if we kept our cool and stuff and you're thinking okay well. This is a rational parent everything then they actually show the guy in what he's doing a wing and saying he's he's videoing every second of the kid out there and he's saying things while here let me play a clip of this from CBC National and this was was Mitch is having a bad game wasn't skate in that hard and he's about to take a face off in the end of the rank where Palm Arner is standing behind the glass and this is what the freaking guy said you better get fucking Skating Mitch. I swear to God sakes. That's the worst of it but there was more the Mitch off cycle it escape also there's so there's a there's there's palm chirping and his son about in. That's pushing your son. I guess but it's kind of negative yeah. I Steve if you've ever read a manual. There's a bunch of one minute manuals. You know one minute this one minute that they're a series of books and one of them is one minute parenting and I'm sure on the first page is threaten your children to within an inch of their life. That's probably what you WANNA do was. This guy nuts the scary thing I mean I mean it's scary ended with self but remember he knew the cameras were on on him. He knew he was miked up and that's still came out. What is that freaking guy like when the cameras aren't on him and he's alone in the car car with Mitch Martyr at Thirteen years old driving home after you know he doesn't backcheck hard on the on the on the goal that cost them the game holy crap. HAP It makes one shudder to think all the other stuff in his life well how's his dad teaching amount of Dr Hands at ten and two other ones GONNA truck your risk off off. WHOA WHOA just taking ESI problem with that Steve. The problem with that is in this case. You get a really successful player. The kid goes onto a superstar signs a sixty million dollar deal but you know someone. Someone taught me one time about the tough. Love thing with your kids okay. Where's the balance between encouraging them and giving them this tough love to obviously the th degree like the old man did here with with learner is you're setting your kid up for the kill if he doesn't succeed you know you're. You're you know there's this massive awesome amount of pressure most kids most kids don't like when their parents put them on social media you know this is sewn zone so and here's our daughter who graduated with honors. you forget the story here. You got a son coming up behind her. who can't pass you know who's having difficulty passing and and I think it puts his terrible amount of pressure on kids comparing them to other children shit like that look at. Migo with the soft side but that's why you shouldn't do that in my mind you know praise. The kid not the deed Stevie like that. When we come back on the show we're going to get to warranties Super Trivia? We'll also get you the latest on the Ottawa senators notebook and the there's a bunch of things going on right now with the club so we'll get it to that in our next segment. I remind people that if you're shopping around for a new vehicle you're timing is perfect right now because Ford employee pricing is back for a limited limited time at Jim Kaye Ford you pay with Ford employees span select new vehicles. Now's the time to get that Ford. You've had your eye on Ford employee pricing on the new ad home test drive it. It is now on at Jim. K. 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Super Trivia you win all Batman Soup this out of out of West there robin utility belt. You know how to do the best imitation of Batmans Steve. I do not because Batman spoke this Robin Wright solid time to get in the Batmobile Robbin and we've got to save Gotham Robert was utility in there was that part of the impression that helps right. Yes exactly get get into my belt. Robin that was by request from one of our good members big wreck. He wanted he wanted to hear. You say you tell you utility. Belt Robin and so so I like to teach people Steve Okay I like to you know you give them something they can. They can run with for the day and the way you learn how to do shoot. Out Is well. I don't know how to say Steve. It's just before you're going to orgasm if you were talking oh just before you're gonna hit the top of the mountain houten. Steve Okay. Try It. Okay pretend Steve so you're gonNA pretend right here that it's all about to come to an end okay that you're about to. You're about to turn the corner. Steve Your vote to reach the top of the peak and then say utility belt okay utility Belt Yeah Good I. I'm a little different when it comes to that. That was a premature utility belt. I'm on the topic of Batman. Have you got any interest in this new joker movie by the way have you. I've seen any of the trailer sport it's got. It's got Joaquin Phoenix and this is how I'm gonNA. Give credit here because it's a it's a pretty well written article. Kathleen Newman remain remain she describes it this way it's either a near-perfect masterpiece or it's dangerous manifesto for radical and lonely white eight men so Jesus. There's a lot of criticism going on obviously for those reasons now. Where were we were in the middle of Warranty Super Trivia before we took a hard left turn and is brought to you by warranty. Super Trivia is by our good friends at Silk Web solutions DOT COM. Do you need a website. I bet you do for all your website. Design and maintenance needs got a website and it needs maintenance well. Here's D do you spend your web with Silk Silk Web. Solutions Dot com today's question James. Nhl who is or who was the first rookie to get one hundred points and one hundred penalty minutes in the season in the new. Do you like the sound effect I play. They're by the with the WHO wants to be a millionaire sound effect. Oh that's cool. I love that lady who hosted that thing Regis Philbin. No no one who hosts the one who hosts it now is a chick who had a morning TV TV show. I want to say meredith something. Oh Yeah yes she took over for reach and she does that. Show and she's trying. She's trying to bust us to move on all the contestants all the time what Steve Hundred points and one hundred penalty minutes since the year two thousand first. I rookies you that first. NHL Rookie to do that. That's a lot of points and that's a lot of penalty minutes for one rookie and maybe guy you'd never think of drama. Ghinwa Ghinwa might have been a rookie who did that but that's way before two thousand I think can I don't think it a hundred points. Oh he didn't okay not a bad guests. They'll Steve. You know he'd be the kind of guy that you for sure. I Shave one hundred penalty minutes and just say you know a guy in that first decade of the two thousand one hundred bridge-points as a rookie then I'd say sit crosby there. You Go shock a lucky. He was a chippy little bugger. I guess I in his rookie season and ended up with one hundred points at one hundred penalty minutes. That is today's warranties Super Trivia. My fear was when you asked me that question Steve. What that I forgot the answer so you gave me before the show. I think you did to jerome again. I was going with the answer here. Forgot AH okay. It's incense notes to close the show today we had lots going on in the NFL today like the injury front. We'll get awesome sends notes in the second year but the Pittsburgh steelers. How'd you like to be them. They're my AFC team by the one I'm wearing their hoodie right now. As we speak they of course us going into the season of course in their rear view mirror lately on bell who sat out all last year and now he's course in the New York jets so he's gone Antonio Oneal Brown. I'm not sure they're weeping over socially the loss of that guy but he's gone to I'll certainly loss of skill anyway and then today you the V. If you pick two guys on the offense that you wouldn't wanNA lose of the guys remaining Ben Rothlisberger. He's he gets injured and then their new star running back can James Connor. He got injured and he couldn't put much weight on his leg as he left the field so and the steelers by the way started to to start the year so that's these are not good times in steeler land in steeler nation. No I'm glad to see Steve as an adult that you're wearing Pittsburgh steelers Hoodie on game day I should I should I send steelers lunchbox Steve Well. Yes I'd love that yeah. Can I get that gold for you. UH by the way you've got to follow Super Seventy sports on twitter. It is so good it's so funny and they're always always putting stuff in there like like a lunch box with Steve Austin on it or you know some kind of sports star and all kinds of cool stuff. It's very funny Andy's Ritz. He's around our age as well. So sense of humor is very similar similar. Do you know when I was in Sudbury. Steve growing up as a kid. We had lunch. We had lunch boxes but they were metal. They're all like they have metal class onto under their big metal lunchboxes because it was a mining town right right. They made a bunch of these lunch pails out of it. Yeah you're probably lasted your entire school life versus the stupid cheap plastic plastic ones that I had that had all the NHL Logos on it that might last to the first recess of the first day yeah no no. I still have it because it's I kept kept all my dope in the airplane bottles of liquor that I used to put in their school well. At least you found a hand hand to use for that's good. I I got busted going to school my mother. I was rushing out the door to school which was very rare case. You always have to coax me. You'll get let's go. Let's go oh. Let's go come on. Hurry up. You're going to be late and then one day I got up and went went in you know that was all dressed and everything able whip my food down and grab my lunch fail and went into my room to get my knapsack or whatever we had school bags and I said okay I gotta go mom wannabe early for the bus and she was like Whoa Whoa Whoa. WHOA wait a minute here. What's what's going on. It's it's okay go early. Get back here. Give me your lunch pail. She opened up a bottle Carlsberg in there. Steve Steve Carlsberg light at least Carlsberg regular my favorite high test through that into the I don't think I'll oh get caught here with the glass bottle of beer rattling around in a metal lunchbox come along great four really yes yeah. I guess snuck a bear on the case downstairs and the bedroom thought I'd give it a whirl bringing this anyway I did didn't ended up with chocolate milk against Shaimaa. I I always love chocolate milk and the Weiner inside the thermos and the buns wrapped up in cellophane hot water in the thermos couple of wieners in there you make your dog later on very solid. They're mushy but you know what it was still better than Baloney Sandwich anyway. Let's get back to where we are going. That was director of the show with some sends notes. It's there's lots to talk about the recycling of Thomas Chabad and when that will happen and the wheels kind of all get in motion a little bit with the Marna re-signing and you're seeing signings happening elsewhere elsewhere you saw Charlie mcevoy the fine young Bruins defenceman who came from the same draft year but as far as his career he's he's a year further along then then Thomas Chabad is and so he resigned on the weekend and he ended up signing a three year deal worth fourteen point nine million and also the flyers they got Ivan Provorov he got He got his six year deal with forty million dollars. So that's kind of giving. Are you an idea of roughly the kind of dough that that probably Thomas Chabad will command and guess is going to be up to Chabad whether he wants to do the a three year like mcevoy more of a short term thing or maybe buy up some of those. UFA years like overall didn't signed a six-year deal like his roommate call in white did as well so it's is going to be an interesting time for Thomas Chabad Willie sign at some point during camp during the season or will he like so many of these are f.a.s.t wait until next summer. You're well look what a couple of Patrick Line. I think that the kid in Winnipeg he's just going over to Switzerland to practice. He's a holdout there's three or four other guys with the same ilk as martyr who scored more goals than he has and. I WANNA say the kid in Calgary that'd be I am nasty could Chuck Yeah Chuck. This guy might get more goals in mind that these guys are fantastic. You go baby with your ten point eight Millia Leia. They're all GONNA. They're all going to end up resigning now because he was the one that everybody was waiting for not because he was necessarily the best guy I do think he is this but I think they were just waiting because he's in the best he was in the best situation to make a lot of money because not only busy probably the best player of the RFA's were talking talking about although this guy's in there that are debatable like rant and he would be right there. That's a guy love that that's great hockey player but Mitch Martyr he's obviously got the comparables in Toronto as well and that everybody thought that maybe he's going to try and shoot for the moon and get the kind of money that Taveras God and the money that Matthew Scott he came in just under that but I think everybody wanted to see where he was going to set the bar based on both talent and the comparables on his own team. What's what's Connor mcdavid making. I WANNA say thirteen yet. That's what I was going to say to. I don't know I don't know the salary list in front of me but yeah that's around where he's but you mentioned could shock. He's his brother brother. Brady course expecting to have a real breakout season. He was very good last year. Something like forty five point. I want to say and He's put it on twenty two pounds. Can you believe that from this point last year he's put on twenty two pounds of muscle from worries attic camp last September over and so he was already in ornery tough to handle. Sob as it was as a kid as a rookie now. He's got a year under his belt and he's got twenty. Twenty two more pounds to play with that is going to be a breakout player this year mark my words else all right. I will you know before we go. Steve achieved the other story because it won't go away. Tonio Brown bellowed says he's GonNa play the Games already. Done got got a touchdown whips. Yeah you got a touchdown touchdown and they win. FORTY-THREE ZIP New England so Miami's terrible ship coming up while there's much shit come from people saying you shouldn't let them play and and Bella says well till proven guilty right toe uh-huh proven guilty anyway. The Guy Certainly had a lot to do with them winning too so I wonder if it was if if it was charges that we're going through in the criminal court. I'd have to think they'd have a different spin on it now the NFL and Roger Goodell. They're gonNA actually the woman who is suing suing Antonio Brown four charges of sexual assault not the legal charges but that's what he's contending in in in a civil court they're going to meet with this woman and and so I guess the investigation is underway from the NFL's perspective and without being able to defer to the criminal courts. It's it's almost as if they're GONNA do. It sounds like anyway sounds like they're. GonNa do kind of their their own. Ad Hoc trial listen to what she has to say. Listen to what Brown asked asked to say interview. Some other people and it's going to be a very interesting couple of months here. I think yeah you know a couple of things with the Antonio Brown story Eugene Melnyk these stories. This is Antonio Brown's ferry just just reeks of of a terrible thing right. It's got this stench to it. That is not good you know and that and yet the League says or the team says There's there's nothing we're GonNa do this this things in litigation Simpson with Eugene Melnyk and I agree with that you know I don't know it'll be interesting to see the league. If Gary Bettman steps in with this Melnik deal you know I think I think as I understand it if someone gets stiffed by an owner that the league what might might pay for that what what Eugene Melnyk is being accused of whether the league steps in there's an owner what do you what do you do you can you discipline an owner like you can a player and my feeling is steve if you started not fielding guys because because of what they've been accused of you'd be missing a lot of players out there each year of stories of deadbeat. DADS they don't play alimony alimony impaired charge fighting a bar. You know there's a bunch of stuff out there. That is sort of doesn't characterize the way a team wants to A. B. B. C. themselves or their players so I'm okay with this. I'm okay with this right now with Antonio Brown yeah. I'd be okay with them sitting IMAS MS because keep in mind. They still get paid. They put them on some on some level of administrative. Leave or something like that. I don't know but they still get paid even if they're sat out so I think that's really all you owe to an employee from any perspective in the meantime they've gotten themselves caught up in something that's making the organization look bad whether they're innocent or guilty. We all know that there is you know when when just the news breaks that's bad often. It just puts a stain on the organization so if they wanted to sit him out. I'd be totally I think that's totally reasonable particularly because he'd still be receiving receiving a paycheck. We've gotta go my friend. We call it a day all right brother very good. I figure honor the late Rick O. Casick from the band the cars we play moving in Stereo and that famous Osa famous phoebe cates pool scene from fast times at Ridgemont high that was the soundtrack of it and Jimbo Tron had some fun with that scene good night everybody we'll see so jumbotron now brings you jumbotron theater starring. 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150 Virtual Funeral Services (Gathering Us)

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150 Virtual Funeral Services (Gathering Us)

"The. Return to episode one, hundred, fifty off two girls one podcast you know what that means. Lean third. Haven Wareham resumes, we surpass Seinfeld. Once or taint. Walla. Don't ask me Seinfeld stairs. Now. There are only to casting. Masters there. Melissa Berga Jennifer Tabula. Hello everyone I'm Jen I'm Allie. Hard to get out. Everything on myself this morning own. Via Myself I draw my banana Mozelle everybody having a good time. Yes. I have random clumsy days like that to where like I trip and I get something in my I bump into I. Don't know it just happens. It happens just bad luck day. One of those days and it's messing up a onesie. Well, folks welcome to two zero one podcast. Hi. Matt how you doing hey. Allie are performers we had a live comedy show for a long time where we use the Internet as our script, and then we created a web series called girls one show, which you can find on who we met the people behind the posts that we've been performing all those years now, who has going to get a disease. Okay. Once again, I'm shocked that it hasn't. Never had a hula disease and I'm overdue. Silver lining for the day where everything's spilling on you. Inquire in quarantine I feel like it's unlikely. Am I gonNA get a disease so I've got at least another year in the clear but you know the problem is if you spill something into the onesie and it goes down there you and you can't find it for a couple of days that's a high risk factor I. Am Not a doctor. Nature's pocket. Rally I haven't. Really issue so. Cleavage but sometimes when you can't find your keys, you gotta check Matrix back at. New here you might not know what you're saying is. On this PODCAST A, we are talking to folks behind different Internet communities and phenomenon that we find interesting and well, it is a comedy podcast. Today's topic is well, you know what? It could be a celebration as well. Not just a mournful situation, but we are actually talking with the founder of a website service kind of community now called gathering us and this is a community that helps put on virtual funerals and ceremonies so. Obviously, now in the time of covid. People are mourning grieving completely alone and she's created something that has hopefully I think brought a lot of meaning to people's lives and she's GonNa tell us about how they're doing that so. This week. I don't know how deep we want to get here. But I guess I'll just mention personally that a family member passed away in the last four months not because of cove. Ed. But you know just the not being able to go to that funeral the time it was sort of like it was an April or March so the height of everything like. Yen like so much uncertainty and I had to make that decision of lake and it was a close close family member older person, and then beyond that helping the people who are very close to that person grieve especially those who are living alone. There have so many questions. How do you recreate a feeling of being in person in those situations and how do you come together when we can't physically be together and how do you make jokes at a funeral? You know they do sir we're celebrations and things. So maybe there's like a light hearted component I'm sure there is when I die to. If I die Soom. Everyone should wear a onesie to my funeral and. Eighty s dance music play, and then I only want people sharing fun stories if I die when I'm old as fuck I don't give a shit. Hope oldest fuck when I die what about you guys? I. Think I would like. Fuck but if it were going to happen sooner I want them to play blind melon's no rain my favorite song from bitter trade and I want everybody to dance around like that little girl. Can I do dramatic readings of your Middle School Journal? Just one yes. Just one which. I need to dig back but maybe the one about the COOCHIE cutters noted. Well I think it's time for Trivia. Today's episode is about virtual gatherings related to grief but today's Trivia as about a much lighter gathering. That's right. It's your favorite game in mind magic the gathering I know you guys play an egg. Layers. On your on your wikipedia pages mama hinge. Profile. Do. You don't play Games I. Don't even know what magic the gathering is. Played. We played a game with some podcast listeners the other night and it was great. It was called among us. We can recap on this later, but we just wanted to say come into our discord and maybe you'll play games with us in the future discord. Sexually that game was really relevant to today's episode because a lot of people died in the game. That's true. That's true. Okay, anyway. Magic the gathering you really don't. You've never even heard of it. You did you have any context this game about it. I've heard that's it. I just heard it is the mother of all collectible trading card games. It was released in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty became an instant phenomenon. It's incredibly complex. You have a personal deck of cards which you collect, you can purchase them, you can win them from other players. Your deck is composed from from a pool of more than twenty thousand unique cards that have been printed over many many years since nineteen ninety-three. Now, valuable cards obviously have stronger stats, abilities, creatures. But certain cards have become very rare either because their out of print or because the rules of the game have changed over time it making certain cards more or less desirable. So today's Trivia question is. What is the most valuable magic, the gathering card of all time from a price standpoint. So just to clarify this doesn't mean what's the most powerful card in the game or the most strategic. This literally means what is the highest price that a collector or a player has paid for a single magic the gathering card I have three real cards to share with you and you to guess which one was the was the highest are you ready? We're ready but I wish. I know I will I will be transparent. All of these are real cards from the game. I did not make any of these. Okay. I was tempted to do so we love it when you make things up but. Hey, the dirty medallions. Voting. Harry Potter and the dirty medallion. So that was my favorite one from the series. Those. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, seven, the twelfth expansion for magic was released called tempest. Some of these new cards were printed on a machine that also printed Charlie Brown comics. The machine was not cleaned before the cards went in saw a handful of these rare medallion cards. On them, you can see faint faint outlines of Charlie Brown comics which make them sought after by collectors that is choice a Charlie Brown medallions. Here's choice be the Black Lotus. This card grants, its master, three extra mono- of any one color, which enables players to use very powerful cards from their deck way before they normally would. This card was quickly recognized as way too powerful for the game, and it has been banned from most formats of play, and now the card is out of print. So even though you actually cannot use this card in a normal game. Its power and rarity skyrocketed the price over the years. Can I phone a friend because I have a friend WHO's SUPERINDENT MAGIC THE GATHERING No you may not. For technical and fairness reasons. Choice E, I'm titling this our market research. The creators of the game liked to have fun with their cards. Obviously, it's like a fantasy wizard game but they they occasionally do break the fourth wall in two thousand four. They released an expansion that contained a creature card, and this is the real actual name of the card. You can own this card you can play this card in the game. Our market research shows that players really like long card names. So we made this card to have the absolute longest name ever elemental and quote that is the name of the card. This joke was so funny to players that card became super collectible and is now super rare. Which of these three is the most valuable magic, the gathering card ever. Allier you sticking with dirty medallions? Yes. They're dirty medallions. I. To go on. You I think you're like the dirty medallion thing I love that as Charlie Brown but I just to diversify I'm GonNa be the Black Lotus the Black Lotus alright let. My other guest because Lotus blossoms are so fucking cool. Yes. Before we break, do you have any reference point as to how valuable? This might be the most valuable card ever do any any rough estimates are guesses I'm not going to disclose anything no idea what's happening let's say it's going to be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. We will find out the correct answer to the world's most valuable magic the gathering card after this break. We are gathered here to celebrate the incredible lives of Chris. Harrison. Jared Ryan. Jessica Fox. Melissa. Eliot. James Dollars you're. Christopher Latch. Kathy Phillips William. And Matthew Scott. Thank you and your beautiful lives donating ten dollars or more to our. On Patriarchy, DOT COM slash, G one P. May Live Forever Na. Support for this podcast comes from cdw technologies. Bet cdw Gee, we get the migrating your agency to hyper converged infrastructure is challenging. 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You GonNa put it in a dark room for some stage of it. I've been looking into it. I've also been looking into how to grow shrooms at home. Later. All right. What's this trivia? What is this trivia? Indeed what was is the most valuable magic the gathering card ever transacted or sold. Alley you went with the Charlie Brown dirty medallions cards that were printed on dirty printing press that have very faint faint. Charlie Brown comics printed on them very rare. Genuine with the Black Lotus, a superpower card that it's banned from magic the gathering. and. No one went with the our market research shows that players really like long card names. So we made this card to have the absolute longest card named ever elemental. Are you sticking with the answers? Sticking with it now. For context some powerful or rare magic cards can be worth a few dollars. Some of them get up to twenty dollars maybe fifty dollars for something pretty good that you want your deck. Some super rare collectible cards even will fetch a thousand dollars maybe five thousand dollars at an auction. However. The Black Lotus is so out overpowered and game breaking and rare that this band card is the most valuable in the history of the game. If the card is verified as part of the first magic set ever printed way back in nineteen ninety-three and the card is in perfect condition. It has been known to hit for more than one hundred, thousand dollars. I one. Not only did you win you got the right answer, but you also predicted the the amount that would be if I can get the card. It is yours. But here but hold on. Just this past summer. A limited edition Alpha black, Lotus in mint condition signed by the artist who designed the card. Every one of these cards has beautiful artwork by a lot of like fantasy artists and painters and illustrators sold to. As far as I can tell a Spanish youtuber slash Seo Guru, this guy seems to be very wealthy making videos about like search engine optimization and e commerce on YouTube his name is Ronald fons Spanish, a gentleman. Purchased this card on Ebay for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars the highest single card value on record of these that we know about wow. Where's he? He seems to be based in Spain and clearly win the wrong business because we should be making like seo videos on. This thing. Man that sounds really fun. Well, that's the game. I've never gonNA play but thanks. Feel slightly more knowledgeable. Yes indeed. He's keeping US young. All the cool talkers that's what they do is play magic together. Deal maybe speaking of keep not keeping people young 'cause maybe they've done. We're so excited to welcome our guest today to the show. Please welcome Noah Web Snyder the founder of gathering us. Welcome Noah. Nice to be here. Thanks for having me yet. Good good. Excited to be talking with you guys. We just want to start by in your own words. Tell us what is gathering. US gathering us is the place where family and friends come together to support each other and celebrate the life of their loved ones after death. I. Started working on it about three years ago, and originally we launched with a memorial site A. Memorial pages work in France could share photos and stories and make donations to the family either for funeral expenses or for a charity, and they could add all the various events. So everyone could be notified and stay in touch. And then in February as things were changing around Cova, did we realize we really needed to prioritize something that had been on our product roadmap for about a year but we hadn't worked on yet. And that is a virtual events. So enabling family and friends to come together from afar when they can't be together since this was pre code that you started it. How to get started why? What was the impetus behind it? So over the last two decades my husband and I planned about a dozen funerals and that's because my husband is part of a large Irish family and when you have a lot of people, you'll also have a lot of death. And we realized that what got us through those really challenging times was the support of our friends and family and being able to bring everyone together and to have them there to get us through it. So I wanted to create a space to enable communities to gather and to support each other and to celebrate. Their loved ones in a unique and personal way how do your services change when Corona virus hit? Yeah. So we realized that suddenly people weren't gonNA be able to gather as Cova was taking off in China was shutting down and all these different places in Europe were starting to shut down. We realized that we were coming soon to, and we needed to provide a way for people to gather. Our product manager who would actually been with us from the beginning. So for almost a couple of years, she had previously done virtual events, and so she had the inspiration to create something that was much more than just like facebook livestream or some other one way interaction as she realized that. Bringing people together to see each other and to communicate and interact, and to make truly participatory is what a big difference if you think about grief and what helps you get through it and what what transcends grief into morning is the externalizing of what you're going through. It's the having your community aware of it and reflecting back to you the enormity of what you're going through. And so we wanted to create events that are truly participatory that brought people together and our events. Now, our full on ceremonies and receptions where not only is the family? Speaking and the inner circle Gruber's are. Are there. But also the community can share their stories and can be part of the the gathering as well. So if there's any such thing as sort of like a typical online funeral or ceremony what might that look like just to give our listeners and idea if they've never experienced something like bat before yeah and they're all really different though you know there are some things that are very typical. But part of what we do is really help families customize and personalize defense so that there truly reflective of. The traditions, they wanNA bring to it the traditions they want to create. In the ways that they want to commemorate the person that made it really personal to them. And so we help them throughout that whole process We we are think sort of as a wedding planner for funerals where we work with the family, and we hold their hand throughout the whole process of thinking through what a program can look like creating their slide show adding music. Working with all of the different stakeholders because it can be really difficult during this time. Together. All of the various. Family and friends and people who want to be involved and have an opinion whatever family drama may exist normally all of those politics come out. And so we help them through that. and. Then we create a ceremony which often has A slide show a eulogy several people who might want to speak may be. Play. Music. Poetry. Readings. Sometimes. There are religious clergy members or they may just include some prayers. And then A, we often open it up to what we call a facilitated share, which is US essentially passing the Mike around to different people in the audience who want to share a story or a memory about the person. And so we'll mute on mute different people They can also share video we often share different media. then. We can also do receptions at the end which are different rooms where the family can gather in. Groups with people. So Janis rooms am does room the Highschool Friends The Minnesota family or the kids table kind of all the various groups that may want to gather and talk in a smaller more intimate setting i. mean it sounds like you've already answered some of this but in what ways is this like an in person funeral and more importantly in in what ways? Is Your. Does your platform make it a different experience? One of the things that I've noticed about the virtual funerals is that in a typical traditional funeral that's all in person. People are often seated in rows and so most of what you see is people's backs. whereas. An online or a virtual funeral or a hybrid funeral where some people are in person and some people are virtual at, which is often what we do nowadays. You see people's faces and you see them really up close and in fact, we often hear from guests and the people who the families that we work with the it's one of the most connected events they've been to of all the funerals they've ever been to and I think it's because it really allows people to be there and to feel the presence of so many people up close and personal. The other thing is that. Historically people have relied on their traditions and what they think they're supposed to do for a funeral. Once you transition to a virtual event and it's no longer the event that you thought you were supposed to have a lot of people are actually somewhat empowered. And freed to do something much more creative, a much more personal, and so we see really interesting events where the ask people to bring a meal to share or specific food like we had an ice cream social at the end of one of the events, his personal loved ice cream everybody brought their ice cream and you could see them all eating together on the screen Another person loved fireworks insoles showed five minutes of fireworks might ask everyone to. Wear a certain color because that was the person's favorite color and so a lot of really neat and personal tributes that happen in these events that historically might not have happened because people didn't feel comfortable going there and now that they're forced to rethink. The event altogether, it really frees them up to do interesting things. That's interesting because I feel that. Funerals and weddings they're so generic most of the time. And it's something that is such a major life event. It would make so much sense for it to be personal and yet there's this. I. Guess Tradition has has overridden the idea of it being personal I think death seems so big that people are nervous about what they're supposed to do, and they WANNA make sure that they're honoring their loved one appropriately, and so they're scared sometimes to do things that are different or unique. And this transition is really an ebeling people to move into a new direction, which is really interesting and and the timing is really interesting because already a lot of people were becoming less religious and so there were relying less on religion a lot of people who are now being cremated the majority of our being cremated, and so there's no longer the urgency of the burial and what to do with the body, and so a lot of the events that we plan our weeks out or even months out and it gives a. Family time to come together and really think about how they want to pay tribute to this person and how they want to commemorate them and celebrate them and our tagline is celebrating lives together, and that's very purposeful that we really believe in these events as being a celebration of the person and we want the family and friends to come together and really feel that maybe you've already mentioned it know about what sort of like the most fun example of a tradition that was brought in virtually that you can think of So one. When bring twizzlers because the person loved Lurs and A. Lot of tend to be, which makes sense. A lot of our traditions are food related. Another guy. Love Diet. Coke and so they had everyone put a diet coke at the front of their screen. Cooks across. We've done virtual hand holding where everyone will have you guys seen this you put his hands on the side of the screen. Put their hands up to the side. My favorites are really where people like the grandkids will play music or song that they wrote where people are creating something or sharing something that is really personal to them, and you're doing hyper events now too so Give us an idea of what that could be like an also just technically that sounds like it might be quite a challenge for sure. So tech support is a big part of what we do. We actually have a tech hotline that all of the guests can call case they're having problems so that the speakers and the the Gruber's the family is not having to deal with uncle Joe can't figure out his sound kind of thing. So we have a tech hotline and that. Is a part of all of our events in general. In addition to that, we do a walk through with all of the speakers, a couple of days before the event, and for that, if it is a hybrid event in what we call hybrid event is where there's maybe twenty people are together in person. And everybody else whether it's twenty people or a thousand people are dialing in virtually and so we help the family. Make sure that they can set up all of the audiovisuals that they're able to hook up a large screen TV or a projector or if they're in a funeral home or church or in location venue that has audiovisual systems, we will hookup everything with them. Virtually we can work either with the family themselves or with the clergy member or the funeral director whoever it is which to your point is. Not Easy. It's definitely something that we spent a lot of time working on every AV, system is different. So we have a lot of practice now at working with different ones and really making sure that everyone can hear and see each other and speak and you don't get feedback and all of the pieces are connecting to each other. So you have people from gathering us like on site at the live. Person No. Okay. All virtual. Yeah. Actually can make all of that happened virtually ticket for me as a person who has to connect four people on a weekly basis. What you just described is a monumental especially if they are not physically there to like plug wires it. Fully cow though whoever's doing that on your team needs Goddamn medal if you ask me. They did they do they're incredibly patient and empathetic, and also really amazing with their technical skills. It's a challenge to hire people who are really good at tech also, very empathetic and happy to talk about death. Break. All Day. Long. Long. Exactly. That's a special person I think, yeah. Something I'm wondering about is like how gathering us and you you like help simplify decision-making for the grieving families through all this. Yeah and that's a tough thing. So, decision making across a number of people to right. If you think about a wedding planner who works with a couple, it's really mostly the couple who gets to make the final decision I. Mean Obviously, there is parents involved in some other things, but it's very clear who the key stakeholders are. Whereas in a funeral. There's lots of different concentric circles of people who cared about this person and the different people who are involved in what matters to them, and they all are different generations in different interests in different values, and so a lot of what we do is help them weed through that and bring it all together and in a timely fashion. So in a way, it's it's really. A very. Complex project. Management. While at least people are also going through something incredibly tough. And that's one of the things that we talk about is that you could do all this on your own, but you're already dealing with so much that on top of that to be the person who's project managing and communicating with everyone and also doing the technology makes it really almost impossible for you to be present for the event itself while you're doing everything else. rights, alley and I we lead trainings and things like that on the side and it I think it would be easy on zoomed to facilitate but then it takes days of planning for us. I it sounds like it takes months of planning for you. So that makes perfect sense. Yeah I mean some of the events that we do our. Wordy book through the end of the year. With events, but we do also do events that are just two or three days away. An what are some of the other ways that you? Recreate the feeling of being in person and or I know you've already shared some. But what are other ways that you capitalize on the benefits of virtual and hybrid? The biggest thing we hear about our hybrid events is that a virtual events really is that so many more people could be there than would have been in a normal event. You know even if you live in a small town and all your friends and family are there locally, everyone would not necessarily be able to make it and. especially to right now with Cova. But it's true normal times as well where people have to work or can't travel can afford to travel across country. A lot of people certainly can't do all of those and so just being able to include so many more people than you would have otherwise. The other thing that we do is sometimes people will do a small in person burial. And we can. Help them film that right. So they can get a video of that and we can show parts of that during virtual event so it can be included and not necessarily all of it. But. The parts that they think are important during meaningful they can share with the larger community and so it really gives them flexibility to include different audiences in different ways. So what are the elements that you think might carry over postcode of virtual gatherings for funerals and memorials? So. Virtual funerals were on our product for map for a year, and that's because we had personally experienced not being able to be at an event. Or not having people there who we wanted I had a friend who passed away about five years ago, and there were eight hundred people at her funeral and then two thousand people watched it on livestream wow. Yeah. And so it was amazing to see how many people live she touched and also to realize that. That many more people couldn't be there in person but wanted to be there and wanted to be a part of it. Similarly my grandfather died last year and my sister had just had surgery so she couldn't be there and so I live streamed at for her. So it was nice that she could see it but she couldn't really participate. She couldn't talk. She couldn't really be guest in the part of it. And so I knew that there was a need to find a way to bridge the skaff and it was something that was always necessary before. Now. It's going to be something that people understand and therefore it will be expected I think. So even once cove, it is no longer in issue once people can leave their house and they can gather in larger groups. They will still think of it will now become something that's expected as a layer onto what was previously done. Yeah. I liked it. You're reimagining these events that arguably needed to be A. ND The anyway I mean, I know you've been doing this since before covid. I think definitely makes sense for all of these things to be more personal. Yeah. Exactly and I guess for everyone out there, what are what are lessons we could learn about how to just in general make our virtual gatherings more interactive in meaningful whether whether it's a field or something a little more fun. The first thing we ask our families is if this was in person, what would you do? And then we try to find ways to incorporate pieces, of Vada, to translate that into something that is virtual. One thing is to truly share stories that are not just. Broad but really specific to the person and you know it's not a row so you're not supposed to be. Sharing things if I want to be roasted at. Leave instructions in advance for that. Actually had we had one woman who left twelve pages instructions for her family on what you wanted for her funeral. So I highly recommend mal you've I'm come. We'll do it's very helpful. It's lovely and it definitely takes so much pressure off of your family. If you tell them exactly how you like to be remembered and they have a vision for how you want the event to go. The other thing we've done we did one event for a woman who was still alive and she joined for the event. So she got to be there when her family and friends were all celebrating her life together on her she liked terminally ill she was she she died the following week. So way to do it I'd rather be there. You know here everybody loves you and then you leave I'm into that. Exactly. So that was that was really beautiful. If you can plan that really makes a big difference for instance, my husband, he's a big fan and he has been very clear that he wants a Youtube Karaoke party for his funeral. And that is lovely because I know exactly what we're doing. If it comes to that found the person planning. Good I. Already, let know before this that I'd like everyone to wear a onesie Intel fund stories. Exactly This podcast is a legally-binding will and testament. covered. Jenin. Mad. I mean I don't have to find. A spouse. So it's up to my parents. It would be very dry loyally. So it's up to you guys. We actually have a bunch of partners companies now in the space that are really helping people plan for these things and they have digital waltz that you can leave behind so that your loved ones know exactly what to do whether it's with your will lawyer life insurance or how to access your digital files. Or to tell you exactly what you want for your funeral. So. I. Highly Recommend Checking Out, join cake dot com or ever plans lantern. They're a bunch of really great companies out there doing it. Now, we use sounds knowledgeable about that space. If I'm gone tomorrow like there are many passwords and accounts that my family would not have access to that are very important. Entire digital life is behind various passwords do people get run into issues that must be very complicated mess for sure for sure into some of these companies are worth checking out for your digital volt. But the other thing you should do is go through all of your emails and social media accounts. Google has this the they all have basically legacy contacts that you can leave. So you can make somebody your your legacy contact who can have permission, and you can also say I want my facebook profiles deleted or I want to made into a memorial page or I. Want it just handed over to this person well speaking of speaking of tech. Souvenir Thought Cement Chat Bot, where you can send it all the texts from your deceased friend or relative and then Jefferson and chat as your friend. You know about that gas I do. It's it's I, think it's really interesting. It may become creepy. Yeah, I think there is a lot that we're going to be processing in the next few years about how How we keep people with us over time and it's something we think about for our memorial pages as well because you can upload photos and videos and people can leave their comments. and. So over time, this becomes in a way, your your digital vault of this person for instance I I've noticed. Someone I know who whose father died recently and they keep saying Oh, I just can't look at the videos it's too soon and I can't do the work of rating. And I think that that's kind of a lot of the big question is how much do we curate versus how much do we? Consolidate and just keep adding to it right because in reality if we now have so much footage and. Photos and videos and things if people, but we don't really have the time to filter through it and sorts for it. Right and that's really where the work is because ultimately, you know you're not going to hand down to your grandkids billions of photos they're not going to go through it. Right? They're never going to have time. So much of what I think we owe future generations and our loved ones is doing the work of curing and getting rid of things and really letting them know what's important yes. It's a weird world right where it's like kids born today it's documenting every single second. But where does that go fifty two hundred years from now? How does that right and even just like the fact that you can go through and read old emails and see their facebook presence like we have these digital presence ses that al live us, which is why? How do you feel about the Amazon TV? Show upload. Have you seen? Have you seen? I? Haven't no. I need to see you die. You get uploaded into VR. Yeah. Everything. I don't know that I would want that I think it would be to be for me well, until it becomes normal like all your friends or young again, hanging out in Vr you know. Go through actions it's it's the it's the Avatar of the deceased person and the person is not there but it's an artificially intelligent recreation of the person more than a chat Bot a some sort of three d emit because as saying there's so much media. So yes, we'll be able to take every video every photo, every audio recording that's ever been created abroad about. A person and then an AI will then be able to construct them virtually. So you can then continue to interact with them. That's one creepy crazy way, and then the other one is, is that upload it were where death has no longer de death we we conquer death in some way in this, you know five hundred thousands of years in the future where. You just simulate the neurons and then boom we're living virtually. We start virtually we are always virtual forever. It kind of makes me think of when I see friends who I haven't seen in a while but I've been texting with them or you know seeing their social media posts. and. Then when I see them, my brain doesn't actually connect all of the memories that I have them virtually instead of how are you doing? What have you been up to as if my brain just doesn't know The same person? And it makes me wonder if we would have sort of a similar disconnect with the upload people. Are Are people that I think I'm more connected with than I am because I've seen other updates. and. Then you're missing that sort of Cathartic moment where you see someone you haven't seen in a long time and you're like Oh my God. How are you catch me up and everything but you actually don't have nothing to talk about because you've been in touch this whole time and that's a little bit of a bummer sometimes. As we wrap up today I was just curious what you have learned about people coming together to grieve and why you know that is a necessity and obviously you're facilitating this in a very meaningful way online We believe the Internet's not all bad here at two girls won't bud guest so. that it does bring people together meaningful ways. So yeah, just talk a little bit I. Guess as we wrap up today on the idea of coming together online. In grief. Important to come together with your community and to get support from. Grieving. The literal definition of morning is the externalizing of grief and so in order to do that, you need to be able to talk about it with your friends and family and have the reflection back to you of what you're going through and the enormity of that grief. And so having all those people show up even when it's virtual and in fact, oftentimes many more people who can show up because it has virtual is so important in this process. We had somebody recently actually. who was a guest at one of our events? And afterwards afterwards, they emailed us to learn about our virtual events and they said my. Family member died back in March and we didn't do anything because it was early didn't know what we could do. We couldn't get together in person, and so now they're planning an event with US virtually because they need that closure and they need that event to bring everyone together. We'll know thank you so much for sharing with us being here and all of your insights. It's just such a meaningful thing you're offering and thank you. Thank you. Is Everyone Feeling Cherry. What? Else. Sarah. Silverman went to a nursing home and saying you're going to dice in. Now. Yeah fascinated by how tech is going to affect death and mourning in the afterlife that is very fascinating to. Into that a little bit of the end, but that's the shit that's going to be crazy. I just the the idea that. I don't believe there is an afterlife there is any spiritual afterlife, but that we could create an afterlife technological i. also believe there is an afterlife but then the fact that all the people that trump and everyone cove it at the event to replace Rpg made me think maybe surreal. That's like Curious Karma Gene. You know. Among board like people are like Oh, Karma and I'm like, no, we're US little people are not affecting me universe in big ways. G died on Roche. And then. Trump and a bunch of other Republicans got Cova. The event that she asked them not to do her one request her dying wish was for them not to do that. And they did and then. What you're saying is ghosts can spread. Cova. Yep One more. Can worry about. It was actually the CDC announced it recently. Streptococcus. Yeah well, I'm Lis- technologically savvy than you guys are about Vr and all this stuff. But what are you? What do you mean that the Internet would afford us the ability to have an afterlife like explain that to me well, because they're going to upload our consciousness into VR. Your consciousness like how? Is that the subject of Amazon's TV show upload. But also the black mirror episodes Sanjin Apparel, which is one of the only. Like. Fun Positive. Not dystopia episodes and it's incredible. Okay. But like literally explained to me like how do you upload consciousness into a computing system to your brain is a computer and if you can simulate all of the things that are going on your brain, the way we simulate particles and forces and textures and other things in a virtual environment if you can get the computing power. Good enough. Fast enough, powerful enough to really get down to like the atomic level or the neuron level or whatever. Then you can simulate anything. You could simulate an apple that you literally touch and feel and put in your mouth in its assimilation or if you could simulate simulated human brain than all of the met personalities and memories and ticks and whatever that came with that brain could be then recreated. Else interesting that theoretically everyone it'd be recreated as like the digital self that they presented on social media and then fucking kill me. That's different. That's different. Yes. If you're recreating an Avatar based on the media that you create, then that is a very biased. You know that's everything that's wrong with social media and algorithms number. But so that that's one trajectory and that is definitely here slash coming. We're sort of living in that twilight of that right. But then what we're saying which what JEN is saying and we're getting out on the on the science side is like no literally recreating down to the brain cell, a virtual version of human mind or or anyone in animal mind or something and then. Then mortality than it's true. It's rumor Taliban I was going to say to what end because it mortality and that the people who are living get to interact with the simulation of you. Wouldn't the relation would then by all intents and purposes be alive and? Would be afforded person hood a why why wouldn't it? But like? I wouldn't know like once I at my consciousness is uploaded I'm not going to be like Jenn like coolum in a whole new medium. A essentially, a clone of you with all of your memories and feelings would be alive right? This is really deep philosophical stuff of like. If you it's like teleporting your consciousness into a new body essentially, and it's it is absolutely one hundred percent you down to the brain cell but the you that was alive previously as gone, but the new is alive and sentence and is a person continuing to live. That's very troubling and also super interesting. Cool I'd rather come back is like a leaf for something. Way Probably Simpler. On a different experience than this. I love US one. Yeah. I JUST WANNA chill out for a while. Don't try to recreate guys. All right. All right. Well, everybody we as always would love to hear from you. So tweet at us, you can tweet at me at June Bugger J. O. N. DDR I'm at Ala, Gold Allied go L. D.. You can email us at two one podcast at gmail.com. You can also text us or leave us a voicemail about phone number is four seven. Five four, that number again, three, seven, seven, six. On discord discord DOT G. G One P, that is a unique link that you can only find here. 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Call serenity opens Friday, talk McConnell, but a ton of things you want to hear from this guy. But Oscar nominations come out today. So here's we're going to do to compartmentalize everything my top five fist bumps top five snubs and top three WTN fist-bump summer five free solo nominated for best documentary. Of course, we had Alex Honolulu aunts and Afaf you haven't heard it makes you take a listen, great guy and a crazy person. And he's featured in free solo which is a really cool documentary. That's up for best duck. Happy to see that number four Melissa McCarthy. And Richard E grant to refill I wish it got more recognition which was up for best picture. It's called can you ever forgive me? It's also screenplay but throw this seamless McCarthy, they get your best performance up for best. Actress and thrilled to see Richard E grant a lifelong actor who has he set the Craig's choice awards. I've never been nominated for anything. So he finally gets nominee for best supporting actor their chemistry. I think is outstanding. Number three's. Regina, king loved her performance in Bill streak could talk. She went every major Critics Award. But was snubbed the sags always very concerned. She was not getting out of supporting actors, but she's nominate I hope she wins a good race with her and Amy Adams going head to head number two. So thrilled so thrilled so thrilled. Paul Schrader is up for best original screenplay for first reformed real concern. He was snubbed by the WGN. That's a writers guild of America. So I really thought he was in peril. Seventy four years old one of the great writer directors of all time, the writer of taxi driver, co writer of raging bull American gigolo, autofocus affliction genius never been nominated ever for Oscar first time ever as a talk. Previous in a fob was worried who's making a lot of comments may have hurt earned south. But great Seapaul Nahmad. Some of the Chris Joyce awards. Followed him outside the bathroom did not go in the bathroom outside the stall we talked for a while. I'm just kidding. And number one fist-bump Spike Lee finally nominee for best director. He's never been nominated for which is outrageous. The director of do the right thing, Malcolm X and jungle fever, and so many of great. Phillies. Twenty-fifth our inside man you name. It is finally up for best director for black klansman. They'll the see that film recognize best patriots. Spikes also for best adapted screenplay, which I think is a good chance of winning. He's one of three other writers. He's gonna head to head with my boy, Barry Jenkins also thrilled to see him nominated for debt screenplay top-five snubs number five Claire Foy and Justin Hurwitz, both ignore for first man clarify for supporting actress and Justin Hurwitz for I men Rina de Tavira squeaks in. That's a real surprise for Roma's. She's supporting actress, Amy Adams, Regina king and the to Emma stone. Rachel vice from the favourite divides a stunner. I did not think she'd get embassies upper supporting actors the bad news is that means clarifies out. I man and just in her with twice sought the critics choice awards a beeline for him because I love John Ben lines podcasts. Always listen to Ben's podcast podcast when it's called lines. Dan, Justin was one of the recent guests on Ben's potties. Listen, I thought your great on the pod. And I wish the phone was getting more recognition. I think you're the Uproxx thing. I say years people are gonna say, this is a great film. It's all thanks for saying that. Benz obviously could do in a whole thing you're going to get nominated doesn't even get nominated. He won the best score the critics choice. That's a real surprise there. Number four. Won't you be my neighbor? I gave it to nap Maple Leafs. At the time Andy cats, and it was gonna win best documentary. So that's ridiculous. Rick Passmore civic could win although it's not going to win didn't even get nominate. I gave it to an FAA believes his passport said I'm like the one Grinch on there. It's a good review. But did not think it was great. But I did think it was a notable snub to not get in one of five nominees of the documentaries. Mark Simon's favorite category. I only know free soul and Rb g have not seen the three others. All they've heard of minding the gap. So that's a real surprise. Mr. Rogers too nice for the academy. He has left out in the coal. Number three. Biggest snub man, Barry, Jenkins, not up for best director disappointed to see. It's a beautiful film would have liked to seen him in there. And if Beale streak, it's talk not nominee for best picture. I thought there'd be nine nominees ideal street as number nine did not get nominated. Fortunately, by the way, if you wanna see all my pixie how I did go to Goalby dot com. Number two, not surprising. But one that personally affects me and hawk. Nominee for best actor for first reformed being nor by the Globes is one thing. What's he was ignored by the sag Screen Actors Guild real concern Golder, we still had him as a pretty good chance because they thought again like Jean King? He all the critics awards one New York Film. Critics L A film, critics they fight sneak in. But thankfully, Denzel kid did not get ahead of him. John David Washington, instead other Sinophile favorite Willem Dafoe is nominee for attorneys gate. I do love Willem Dafoe. But I don't think well to be honest with that. I look at the list now bail. I have no issue with Cooper default. Malik Mortenson of those five. I would put Ethan Hawke ahead Rami Malik or head Willem Dafoe. So like, I said, I'm disappointed to see it. Only cares that much probably care more than he does whatever. It's a great film and the number one biggest subs badly Cooper not nominee for best director. This is a true. Holy cow moment, watching it. I was in shock. I was incredulous. I mean, if you'd send me what nomination is a certainty. I would have thought this would be one of them. Are you kidding? This is a real passion project labor love from a great actor who is universally. Well, liked in Hollywood, he sent handwritten notes I believe they're written by him. To all of us as part of the BFCE broadcast, film creek sociation. He's been on talk shows. He's charming. I I was stunned that he's not nine for director. And the kademi normally loves when actors become first time directors Robert Redford for ordinary people Kevin Costner for dances with wolves. At the very least nomination, Bradley Cooper, not getting nominee. But the directors guild is a shocker even more shocking. When whom he was omitted for if you told me Peter fairly for green book, I'd say, okay? If you told me, Barry Jenkins or Beale street. Okay. No. He was never Powell polykovskaya for Cold War Sinophile listers will remember I gave that film to Maple Leafs. I said it was gorgeous shot, and I believe it's also for cinema Taga feed has to be a really beautiful movie. Sean black and white the shock that that Polycom is is an absolute shocker. That's when the biggest shocks have seen in my life. The fact Bradley Cooper's out Powell Poloko sqi is in stutter top-five five Sabra, rather Cooper. However, if you love stars born this could help him in this respect when Ben Affleck was famously stuff for Argo best director that helped film winning best pick. Chern? I don't think that'll happen per stars. Born the biggest concern for stars born along with the fact that director was not nominated is a fact, it's not for editing. It's not as much of a hard and fast rule. But generally speaking, if you're not up for editing if you're not nominated that's a real concern. So that hurts the stars born, and that hurts Rome Rome is not up for best editing. What it does help is a film like green book, which is up for editing, but not up for directors. This is where things get really fascinating. What you really want to go into the weeds and the top three WTI Fs number three Sam Rockwell nominee for vice? He's a great actor. And I was so happy one for three billboards every misery. But this is nothing more than an SNL sketch. He's funny in it. But it's it's a caricature of the president. I did not think it was a notable performance. I would have much rather scenic Steve Carell get now as Donald Rumsfeld are one of many other nominees could have been the one who is should have been Timoteo Shalam. That's a real shock. He's not in fruitful boy, which I thought was an average movie. But I thought he should have been dominated really good actor really well liked actor. So he does not get known it Rockwell is in number two. W t f Cohen brothers talented as they get for God's sakes. How do they get nominated for best original screenplay for the ballot of BUSTER Scruggs? I mean, there's just no reason that screenplay should have been up if it had been at the expense of Schrader, I really would have lost it instead really care that much. But still those guys should not have been nominated for that. And number one. How in the world is human wraps for best picture B? Listen, it's perfectly acceptable. It's also perfectly disposable Rami Mallick nominated for best actor fine. The fact it's one of eight nominees for best picture the year. I had a real tough time with I gave it to nap Maple Leafs. I thought it was fine. I don't think it's best picture quality as well. All right. So that's my recap the Oscars. Dan, standing the mic is yours. I mean verse reformed getting great news for me here in Roma taken some hits for not being in the best picture race. I mean, it's nominated, but he said, it's not gonna for film editing. I was best director was a good indication of once. We went from five to eight least five to ten best director those five movies. Were the best indicator of whether or not the film was going to invest picture. I didn't know editing was it. I'm learning here. But the fact that Roma's not netting is great news for me terminally. What my number one snub is. I man gotta be right. My favorite movie of the year, pretty much got nothing got like sound editing and sound mixing and that's about it. I mean score on. It's a great score it giving nomination like. Wow. And Foy, again, whatever I thought she'd get nominated. But we knew gosh thing wouldn't it's just either knock it's just too subtle performance. It's not showing up. Justin chang. A great column. He's nellie. Film critic article talked Ethan Hawke's acting I four, and I think it goes doubly for Gosling. Just it's not the type of showy performance elegant recognize Zell not nominee for director. Obviously, I mean screenplay. I man did not get nominated. You're right. My second favorite film that your eighth grade. I don't think I nominated for anything. No anyway. Because that's when you could get annoyed about because ritual screenplays at Scruggs nominated that took the eighth grade. Spall Beaubourg got feel about the Cohen brothers executive. Overrated, and they just stole a nomination from Bo Burnham. That's that's disappointing. Ricky what he got will BUSTER Scruggs a best adapted screenplay not original. So if you wanna complain about eighth grade being snubbed looking Greenberg. Yeah. So you're right. Let's clean this up. Anger, rome. You're right Rebekah Roma is up for screenplay ahead about a busters gross. You're right. Ricky, excuse me. Roma is a head of eighth grade for best resist cream play is observed the other nominees the favorite. I think is a good script performed. Of course. I love green book. Vice I've noticed that so Roma's when we were legitimately furious about that took a nomination away from eighth grade per screenplay adapted screenplay. I'm not sure what the Comber stole seriously. This should not be up Ricky, go ahead. They'll Halloween nominee, although he didn't have it. Yeah. Superior did economic for Macomb zeros nominations, the the lead singer of Radiohead famously did the school York com York did the score. So he's he's going to be disappointed. He wasn't nominated. It was a fantastic score. We'll give it that. It was there was fantastic makeup in it. No nominations for superior. But that's okay. Yeah. Won't you be? My neighbor does left out. I'm getting out of Asian right on I'm appalled. Three identical strangers to. Three strangers documentary on that these the nominee free Sola, which is great Rb g which was all right of fathers and sons, minor the gap. I've heard of it, and I have not even heard of HALE county this morning this evening. Wow. Three identical strangers and a neighbor both cruelly ignored animated feature. Listen, I just can't see Spiderman win I was willing to lose my mind if it wasn't. But it's up as Ralph breaks the internet incredible to I love dogs, which I don't think it's one of Wes Anderson's best films Marai, which Keith law. Love took his daughter to go. See it. That's not surprising heath law all over Marai, which is up for best animated feature. All right. So those are the nominations always tweet us Sinophile ESPN or Adnan ESPN, let me know we're trying to engage do good job of that. We were told by Louise keep tweet me. Let me know you think and of course, comments Instagram as well, Matthew, mcconaughey is on the way. Also, do not forget Ben lines chime in from the lines. Then max brass recapping the creeks choice awards. Plus, we got Clair's corner. Do have an everyman or indefens- of. We do have every man are we doing Clair's corner. Do I need to. Production is that name a segment I thought of it on the fly, but we'll discuss that corner Clair's quarter, perhaps she gets her own segment. I am I allowed to give out Clair's last name. Yeah. We do that thinking there's got to be like an Atkins like an Atkins diet. I think it's bad class corner. People ask her, but I think I probably gets used a ton. All right. Math mcconnell. Hey, the man himself. The film is called serenity. It's in theaters Janury twenty-fifty, huge get for sin falls. We have Matthew Mocatta. Hey, joining us to talk about his new film, Matthew before we talk about your wonderful filmography, and this film in particular from Stephen night. I know you're huge college football fan. I was there at the Sugar Bowl hosting the pre game halftime with Jesse Palmer. Enjoy Galloway and sure enough on the sidelines there we see Mocatta. Hey root for the hook them horns, Texas beach, Georgia in the Sugar Bowl Sem. Look great. How pumped are you about the return of Texas? Extremely you know, we. I mean, we we step out of our conference play one of the heavy dog, and the SEC we came out, and basically ran down the hill on them from the opening kick off, you know, the team was quietly confident along orange were Ellen or you know, showed how bright future he can have and how much he's evolved from last year. It was it was an incredible win a stepping stone on the way to where we're going. Deathly special there for your longhorns. Let's talk serenity this movie's coming out like I said, January twenty fifth, and I saw the film when I joined it. And I said, you know, what it's interesting, I wonder for Matthew how much of the appeal is this implying, a real Hemingway esque character, you know, this is a guy who's taciturn is a man of action has been in the army, he's obsessive about fishing with all. He cares. What's all he wants to do doesn't appear to have any friends aside from giant who's SU whose main made there? Did you see Hemingway when you envision this character when you thought about how you're going to play them? Yeah. Moby dick. This is old forty film. All this is offering Bogart these men that are, you know, Connex sort of island to themselves loner, you know, someone that really doesn't and placate anyone else. I plan to manage really escaped to this island in the middle of nowhere obsessed with catching this fish because he wants to catch this fish, I son. Well, it's it's not a healthy obsession he's been doing it for ten years and still only hooked fish like. Four or five times. But this is this man's life obsession to the point where he's, you know, partially insane. And then without giving any twist away that had that happened. It demands detective in his own life trying to figure out if he's real world. He's living in Israel in questions all of that. And as I said goes half mad through the journey of doing it. But it's the kind of movie that the first one I wanna see when I go to either I like a good erotic sexual thriller. A who done it a mystery somewhat of a horror film at the same time. And I like film that manipulates you tease you with what's coming. But you don't know what's coming until it gets there. And when it does, you know, you go so you know, what I didn't see that coming but damn that was enjoyable. You mentioned the Arana's Diane lane in the film. You've got an Hathaway your ex wife and from the ladies listing Matthew bair, but twenty six minute Mark in the fifty six minute marks. And listen, we got an all. I want to I did not have those time codes down. I want people to specifically don't go get popcorn twenty six minute. Mark fifty six not you're showing you the full Monty. Why full? Jagged your point. I get point. No question. Listen, Stephen Knight wrote and directed law, which is a really good movie. He also eastern promises, which I love course, corner. Burks film with Vigo Mortenson really good dialogue Matthew throughout the film early on. There's an exchange the undying lane. You know, she refers us a Hooker. And who say a Hooker without any money for hooks, which works demotivate levels, of course, because the guys fisherman. What was it about nights script? Or what was he like when you're working on set? Well, it is brain by this whole thing incredible writer, and if you see you see what he can do directors. Well, you know, he he's created this fictitious world that is sort of like a utopia in some sense sort of fantasy man fishes wakes up goes fishing in the morning. Comes back goes and sees his lady friend when you tell them from fishing goes by the bar has to two Rum's and goes home and 'cause asleep and gets up, and does it all again as TV night says it's sort of a world where you can smoke cigarettes, and they're good for you. He he created this world in in the laying which is you said, you know, fishing. Yeah. Hooker with no hooks. He a slight of hand the way that he writes, one of the one of the the lines and the screen direction. Introducing my character was like Baker deal cigarette in his one handed way. That's just like a almost like a song. Eric is is dialogue very lyrical. And if you say just that line light to cigarette in his one handed way that doesn't tell you how to cigarette, but you know, exactly how that guy light to cigarette. This is a lot about that guy. Dialogue was great. He's going to be smart since listens to great ideas. You got a great idea. You're convicted of he's ready to go with it. So it was free creative. And it was funny. Go to work every day. We're talking about. The new film called serenity in theaters January twenty fifth you mentioned being fun to go to work. I ever motion pictures to Holland was pictures shot in Mauritius. I followed moves have been there two fictional, Plymouth island. But men you talk about setting being a character you mentioned to New Orleans thriller. So anytime a war, of course, the setting is a part of it but much like the way while things was like Noir with that sitting may look like a ton of fun just to be Marissa's, man, go fishing lauriston. You look at it. And he was gonna go is that Hawaii boos at the Bahamas. Who's part of the Caribbean knows not it is the first Hollywood movie in Marissa's versus a little island fifteen hundred miles east of Cape Town because of South Africa. And it looks like it's stuck in the middle of time either five hundred years now five hundred years ago, and it was only when you nursing things about it. Is it wasn't habit until about just under four hundred years ago? But I deal it could almost doesn't look real. And the light is different than any other place tropical place. I've been to as well. So that was a, you know, part of the great thing about my job is I get to go to these places. I would never go or never be able to go anyway. And I go there, and I get paid for it to do my job. This was a special spot on the planet that not many people have had we're gonna share it through the film. It looks awesome. Because it's a managing the tourism going up after seeing this movie once against in theaters, January twenty fifth you may indulge. You Matthew just a few thoughts some other films? I love of yours. Wolf of Wall Street is so brilliant and your characters so magnetic, and I know you've told the story before about that the ritual which became kind of theme of music, which is you pending your chest. That's a warm of exercise you're doing as an actor. And then Marty you doing Leo's we're gonna put that in the film is that right? Yeah. To warm up to you know, to relax, you know, five I find a rhythm for my character. And everything that I do and that was a rhythm. I was doing before that scene, and then we'd say action, and I'd stopped doing it. And I started the scene. So we do five or six takes. We have the scene we're moving on. And it was Leonardo's idea. He goes, hey, we're kinda what's that thing? You're doing right before the scene when you're beating on your chest and told him, and he goes do that in the scene. So we looked over today. Leave the cameras where they are to one more take, and I did it, and that's the take it's in the film. Tastic? I I asked Mark Wahlberg once as tell me something about skirts says he I don't know I said, obviously adores films. No, he's Sinophile always of film junkie because you know, what we know about mardi. He goes. He's hysterical funny, and he's going to really dark sense of humor because he laughs it a lot of stuff. What what can you tell me about Scurr says that I wouldn't know the man love funny. I mean, he loves funny. Number two. He's obviously very musical which I think is why enjoyed picked up on the thing that I was doing when I was pounding my chest, and my beat he didn't he didn't even talk much English in direction to me. We were always talking musical terms. Even when he would talk about how he was going to set up a shot. He's he's setting up a shot. Like, you know, like, he's playing a musical baseline, you know. And and and the camera we hear boom, boom, boom and the right here. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And then right in your face bowl until he's always talking and rhythms and musical of an accurate, which I quite joy. So his love of music, the rhythm of every scene. He sees it musically. I believe and feel the musically and then his love of funny. Let's fantastic. Speaking of great directors Crispin you worked with an interstellar movie gets enough. Do Matthew twenty people maybe Antic Matic or didn't understand it. My view is you ride the wave man, you go with the journey you experiences different universe than those that love the film. Appreciate that. Tell me about Nolan. He must be I can imagine being very cerebral. But what does he like? Well, another guy who Rievaulx sure I mean, look at look at the world he created out of his imagination in interstellar and even as other films. He he's come up with that. That's that's d-e-m-o fiction. He's created that world. He's created the rules of the world in interstellar. You know, unlike the dark nights, there's no previous material to come up with that world or that journey that we had an interstellar. But here's another guy with a. Great sense of humor, you know, with all the with one of whom town that artists in the best. I've been able to work with. I'm always looking for China uncover that person's magic trick. And what I've learned is that there is no magic. There really isn't a magic trick. They have people have specific point of view, and they have the confidence and the competence to follow through on those. And if it's in film, they have the competent confidence in comments follow through on that vision through moving pictures and sound that come to line make you feel like you're there make you feel like it's not fiction Nolan. The first one up the hill and the last one downhill every day, you're not gonna out work the guy and the same time when I say, he loves funny. I would ask him certain questions about wait a minute. Explain this and he'd be like good question. I don't know. And we just laughed because he's like, but thanks for asking the question. I'm going to think about that and two weeks later he'd come back to me. But you know, what I thought about that question. You asked me, and he'd come up and give me a long enter, which was great awesome guys extra paying that much attention to you. I know you're being humble in terms of saying, where's the magic? Let me tell them for guys made so many great films, and I could ask you douse bars. Won the Oscar true detective, you're brilliant with a movie of yours. I think is under appreciate your fantastic. It was pre- mcconnahey stardom with a time to kill. And that's the film Lone Star love that movie. I love John sales script, I think they're shades Chinatown with how well it's written in your great in that movie. What man I know it's been a while ninety five. But what memories do you have a loan star? I think that's a brilliant brilliant movie. Well, yeah sales did a wonderful job with that. And he's a great writer one thing. I remember is. We were down. I think around PA just negatives in a little town just to just north of the Mexican border in Texas. I believe and the next day we had that scene where it's Christoffersen at nine. He plays the sheriff buddy deeds right anchor Stockton, had you know, acting not deja musicals day job. And we were staying this little you know, one star motel in the middle of nowhere. That had you know, one lamp that was lit by batteries and all groundhog levels. And I remember going to him. I was nervous and usually end before going to work, and I remember going over to them. And and I said, hey, you want to read through the same with me was like, yeah. And so what we read through it. And then I remember when we switched lies. We switch parts. And I read his party read, my part, which leads me to more Kristofferson stories, which are great by the way, and I'm gonna fit one in here you ever heard of this book called the greatest sales. But in the world, I have to book that really helped change my life. And I was reading it at that time. And I was in a little Cantina sees about five people about five in the afternoon. I'm having a beer, and I'm reading that book. And in wash Thomason this is actually the day we met, and he goes, hey, they're not already reading today and reading this book kind of self-help self-improvement book, all the greatest salesman the world because. Oh, yeah. What's it? What's it about? I will like this chapter on right now to you know, persistence and letting your your your your reach exceed your grass, and he was yeah. Or sounds good. Tell me more like looking this line here. This one line says I would rather throw my spear at the moon and hit an eagle than throw my spirit and eagle and hit a rock and Christoffersen looks at me and he looks down at the bar Burnham wooden bar. He starts digging his finger down to the bar, and he's getting pretty perturbed ticked off. And after ten seconds. He looks. I mean, he goes a one June kill Neagle. To kill Chris. It's nothing to do with killing. To be reaching senior graph. Anyway, that was one of the funniest first moments ever had with Chris Dobson. And and I remind him of that story. Lost it. But he is true original. As are you Matthew mcconaughey as an incredible career? His new film is called serenity. It's in theaters January twenty fifth and a personal Matthew Scott fan, Pat Roberts. Good buddies. Money's always filling on the show, they they still rave about the time when you called in. They always appreciate you clearly were listener of the show in support of the show. And like, I said, I know you're genuine sports fan a big fan of Texas so hook him and all the best with the movie and all the best with everything else deal. Appreciate it. Mourns a good week in football as we took -nology truth. Brought to you by cold. Truth. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to your supervisor. What's Janet's fangs? Did she lose that? With a weed whacker? Oh, Sint, wait. No. No. No. No, no, so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. Janet, I think my phone was hacked or something. Gogo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more. Hollywood career spanning techy. Case tales of Tinseltown are told here. Inside the lions with Ben life. All right time. Now for one's. Ben line's always checkout lines in on podcast one. You can follow on Twitter. I am Ben lines. Also fall on Instagram. He is the only reason I was at the critics choice awards because he's the best and I own a pound of flesh. Ben, how're you doing tonight? Oh, man. I'm doing great. Good morning from sunny, Los Angeles about sixty eight degrees here on the beach. Life is life is good. It's Oscar day Oscar nominations out on the phone with you. I love I love to pull yesterday Twitter poll bigger deal. Baseball hall of fame announcement or Oscar nomination. So I was invested in both of those. I gave right on the call from Stanford. Just now and I'm like, oh, everybody buzzing about schilling. We'll do our baseball recap on later on. But I gave my top five fist pumps top five snubs and three WT apps. Your reaction the Oscars. What made you happy? What made you furious? Oh, man, where do we begin? Well, very happy to see Spike Lee, obviously dominated it's been incredible career in cinema. He doesn't make movies make cinema. And I think that he can getting a nomination black klansman getting sick. Now nations was some those excited about this morning. That said the only acting performances from white guy in the movie that's nominated. So there you driver. But yeah, very happy. Obviously for spike. Happy for free solo to as you know, my wife, where is brother is a climber. And he's climbed that mountain. He did it with ropes though. So I guess he's a 'fraidy cat so happy for that documentary happy for Rb G, but a lot of snubs and the things that people forget about snubs is it's not just about somebody on the outside looking in. It's about who you would replace on the inside and put him on the F side. You say, oh, yeah. We'll Bradley Cooper should've been nominated with who you taking off that list. I remember in twenty fifteen when Bradley Cooper was nominated for American sniper in a yacht. Lot of people were were saying Oscar so white that year and calling for David a yellow for Selma. It'd be dominant and you're like well who do you take off with you take off Benedict? Cumberbatch take off any red main this year, Bradley Cooper nominated who do you take off with for best director? I don't know it's tough to I don't take an Polycom myself. And I thought it was a beautifully shot film planets up. Mottaki? It's also performed film. But I don't think as director. I would have put him ahead of Bradley Cooper myself where where's Ron Cooper on that list? The film's getting native for production design for sound for all these different technical categories. Best picture rang cougar could've done nomination. So there's always gonna be people on the outside looking in. But I like to celebrate the people in the inside for Spike Lee to get nominated today was very late in the screenplay category as well. Yeah. Which I think he's going to good chance of winning Benedetta data screenplay is scriptures. I thought was terrible comb brothers lack clanton spikes when a four writers cater forgive me. Which is a great scrimp in the call of Senator Jeff Whitty it could stock. My my boy Jenkins. Good chance and stars board. Eric Roth valley Cooper will fetters. Thanks, a good chance of winning an Oscar meeting how in two years, it's become my boy, Barry Jenkins, my friend. Now, see a card carrying member, and you're rubbing shoulders everybody. This guy aren't believable, we've created a monster. So now, we get to the critics choice again for those who think oh my God. It's an I'm trying to get offended, by the way. Like remains. Forget McCall to cool job. It's not a job. I'm paying my own way. It southwest middle seat. I stayed at the LAX airport, which is a budget in and it's all been lines that did this Ben lines in the summer. I said to my cannot keep up with these movies. But to have our fourth child like I just can't do. And he goes, no problem. I'll get you in the broadcast film critics association like how do you do this you pay a hundred bucks? I got in. It's all because you and not only did they get all these screeners, which saved me thousands of dollars. And I get this get like LP's here. I just kind of just got the Justin Hurwitz score. It didn't get nominated. I think it's great. And of course, I got to go the award show, which you would say to me, listen, do it have a good time. Did it was a blast? I couldn't leave her actually inside the Oscars. So cool we've done, but you know, we're backstage at the table table one. And I see max by plus one either. This is a great table or the worst table. It was pretty good. Was there the crew from pictures? But where is my boy, Ben lines, anybody anybody questions are big deal? Ben is he was at the table with Christian bale and Amy Adams the crew from vice tell me about your night at the critics choice. Oh, we we had a blast. It was funny because I was there four months earlier for the NBA awards and sitting at my table that night was made very different. Very different dinner on Sunday, the critics choice, but I'm like you slap across country day random stuff. Nine minute. Uber ride from. Lift route nine delta points on lift for that. But had a Christian bale, actually, surprisingly like outgoing and in the good mood, and you've heard only tough things about bail. And you know, he's tough actor. I haven't I mean, I interviewed him maybe for public enemies a couple years. He doesn't know me from all could not have been nicer his wife, very sweet as well and Amy Adams or husband sat next to us. He's really cool guy. She bought him a ring that looks like a Jason momoa commend ring because he thinks like Clemenza cool. So he was wearing his like Jen, of course, Mariah like new the cut of stone on his ring. And like the whole thing, you know. But it was great. And it's great when you're gonna table one of those things and people win, you know, everybody stands up and she years, and it's great to see Jeremy Kleiner went to New York City years old maize producer plan B. He's my table and doing awesome in Hollywood right now, he produce if Beale street could talk and vice so he's sitting in between both Abel's pretty baller. And it was great, man. I think the creek choice to a better job in the globe. Do at prognosticating Oscar if you're trying to look at who's gonna win from the nominations be heard this morning look to the critics choice. Glenn Close lady Gaga actually race for best. Actress, you know, I think sometimes the Globes can be all over the place with the nominations with some of the words, they give out they all bohemian rhapsody is gonna win best picture. So I think I think critics is much better prognosticator neck. That's thanks to having smart Cinna files like you now as part of the the voting body. So listen joy that Romo pillow you've got sent holy site. I do end. This year the frame post of Rome that we got as well. Like, I my cousin is a huge Roma Finney list and scotch one. It's going to cost me like seventy five dollars ship that too. But it was it's a beautiful poster from Roma shouting sitting in the back of my car right now, you're the golf course Cheeto look at it was like have no your wife will not want Roma poster in the house. So yeah, they send you all this wild stuff. I wish it was something that changed with the the whole process because it does become a little bit like a middle school middle school like popularity contest for student council who's gonna win. I also want to give to your buddy, Josh Horowitz. Who's a great? Do. We all had dinner after the show his podcast is called happy. Sad confused. I asked him over dinner because he said he listened to Kevin Hart one. I so I said I'd be remiss if I did not follow up. His Michael Shannon interview is tremendous checkered happy sad confused. Subscribe and Horwitz defended the factor. Listen, I constant Paul Schrader. I literally follow them into the bathroom. And he goes you kidding? He is thrilled that you how many people are running up to Paul Schrader you coming your ecstatic glee, you made meters night banner, you kidding. So true man somewhere, you know in an alternate universe. You know, how like the end of men in black when they zoom up from Times Square. And there's the alien holding the marbles and earth is just a marble in another sack, and there's ten thousand other marvels out there somewhere in one of those marvel universes. There's a world where I reformed in eastern hawk and Magill and hall and kindergarten teacher are both nominated the both winning in our alternate universe again up on that Oscar stage. Yeah, listen man, going up to people because you're fan of their work, especially someone like that was not being accosted on the red carpet. Thank I think, always appropriate, man. I I think you know, wait till to get out of the bathroom going into the restrooms to shake his hand. So yeah, I think it's really cool. The only Josh is great Josh's grays podcast is fantastic. Doing this for so long. You know, and he's so smart and funny, and I'm glad you guys start to connect will be more than when you were sleeping on top of him. In sundays. Yeah. I mean, thankfully this to myself, and I was not deathly ill. It was a much more pleasant experience for both of us. I also wanted to point creek choice words, the only real rule is you can't take any pictures. I mean, that's where it gets offensive to your point go up and tells me like their work. It sounds like we're being played off by the music before we go. I one. Busy morning here in Venice. You're going to be back in a couple of weeks. We're going to do Oscars. If we pick the winner. So what should we what will win? But I want you to give us a Sundance twenty nineteen preview. Oh, man. I'm excited. I off to see my buddy Shiloh buffs not directorate debut. But he's screenplay writing debut. You wrote a screenplay loosely based on his life called Honey boy, Lucas hedges plays sort of a version of him and Chhaya plays version of a dad and shy grew up in northern California. The son of an ex clown and drug dealer. So life is crazy. I'm so excited. See Honey boy excited to see the latest Julianne Moore and shell Williams that you'd things off on Thursday night. You know goes men just look at the schedule and you see what's what's playing. I've already seen a bunch of docs, or some maiden true story documentary about a woman who sailed around the world first woman to lead a crew of women to sail around the world, that's Sony classics. So I'll follow eleven which is the better version of first man, it's documentary. And it's not done with talking head looking back in history. It's all done in real time. But from back in nineteen sixty nine it's incredibly shot on aware, they found this footage or how they enhanced it, but Apollo eleven be sure to check that out soon from neon and I'm just excited man that I don't have to sit through like a Sunday Sundance this year of everybody pretend to be an eagles fan, all you guys horse manure heating like titled like spoil the quarterback, you know, Fairweather famous a lifetime achievement for the ram. So great to see them in the Super Bowl. I know pay ransom. Generation generations of ram said, you know, history permission any all the daddy. Trae ho tacos, we've had to I had tacos LAX, by the way, fantastic. Tacos. I'd like to get a screen permission to screen shot. The texts that we send back and forth. The text you said the other day. I saw this great documentary about a woman sailing is like seriously, this this I wrote back. No, one likes an esoteric dock more than Ben lines. So true too. This Rogers snub. What's that about the most just everyone loves it? And there's no there there is that what it is. It's too nice. I know this document they want angry. They want furious. They want, you know, investigative Dr do not want fun. And sweet, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. So yeah, I guess the story of of MRs Virk and how she lived in a house with five boys. It's kind of like that show like the wolves or whatever that Dr years ago. Yeah. Ayman's dot coming soon. We're trying to get. Survive living with five vertebrae they made a doc about her. That's why was nominated at the Oscar. That's I was at the table in pictures. Great idea for a dog. It's about my wife. We'll we'll talk Ben lines. Checkout lines, Dan podcast one. He's on Twitter. I am Ben lines sister game as well. We will be back next time you an ostrich preview until then enjoy Sunday. It's and have fun bunking with Richard Schiff. Yes. Toby from the west wing. It's going to be hanging is got a film currency with Davis. She's going to be sharing sharing the condo and taking your spot. I don't know if he's in a top bunk guy guy, but we'll find out things. No, thanks. Go rams. All right. So the critics choice awards took place in Sunday. I slept out there southwest. Got a nice budget hotel by LAX. Plus one was my boy, max breath, Sinophile listeners know is as engaging and charismatic and as likable guys, you'll meet loves movies as do I? And I knew Huby a perfect companion to just fire through the Hollywood establish a max kind of Jonas right now. And by the way, help up max as well. And check his podcast max and her it's terrific. It's available in apple podcasts. Scribe now. Max I want I want you to take us to the adventures of the critics choice awards. Oh. Oh. Is it got closer to the evening? Exciting certainly started to churn, and then my wife got into it too. So I I was walking out with my pseudo tuxedo. Kind of you know, these together with shirts, and whatever what have you? And then she started fixing my shoes and that go big awards since very excited. So I got out there. No problems right in your there waiting for me walked into the hanger there at Santa Monica airport, and to my is all these Larry really cool. But unfortunately, every moment the eagles. Saints game was kinda wrapping up. So I had it on my phone, and you were still on the clock interviewing celebrities. So you parted ways, and I went there, and I was kinda at the beginning. Very ancient is social watching the watching the game. And then lo and behold is I'm watching feel like little heads coming over my shoulder. I guess some people a little bit sativa by the the tragically hip Hollywood scene and they wanted to watch the football game. And then I started thinking what happened Bradley, Bradley Cooper? He was there. He gets the game to go to the critics choice award. So there's there's commitment arts over sports wins again. And then and then I started news a little bit most notably ran into actor, a, Michael Beasley who I think? He's currently in Dan Amora, and he was also in eastbound and down. So he's comedic, and he's also could be very dramatic actor as well. Go to him for about thirty minutes 'cause his son relief. I was finding the sports angle with everything. So Maliki Easley was his sunny place for the Denver Nuggets went to Florida state. And he told me why he sent his kid to Florida state. He was a one and done. And he goes I wanted my kids to go to Florida state. So he would play against the best. I don't understand why these guys do and Kentucky all congregating and play alongside each other. They should want to play against each other for the one year. I go. Yes. Enjoy the evening saints off sixteen to ten so we move on. And then you finally join me that point and. Refinery. Hit the ball remind I sized it up pretty well. And that that that's a little creepy while you add. Here's the key here. We were scoping where people were sitting. And we're we were cataloging numbers of tales. And that was like that was why new bit pointed when I gave you your ticket. I said we're table one which either means we haven't had standing table or a terrible table, and you go I think it's the former and I said, no, no we were right at the front. Now. The best tables have now learned like tables four or five six ten eleven twelve. They're right in the the stage, and our boy Ben lines is table four, which is the vice stable, very Jenkins's at table three. So me and max the father of the right, but we're right? The front stage where the people from Anna pictures did Bill street as very strategic how they did that because we're aware of your relationship with Barry where where the support our films. I reviewed the film destroy the coal Kidman's. And they knew then Ben asked how might the table Christian building me Adams. They said we're aware that use vice was the best picture of the has been favorite saints. So this next year, I'm going to the Irishman's the greatest film citizen Kane, and I'm gonna be at the same table. With Marty and alpha chino and Robert deniro. I think that's I think that'll come pretty organically from you. I mean, you might as well put your review in now for the Irishman, frankly without sight unseen, 'cause you know, what it's going to be it could be worse work ever. And you'd be like, this was miss changed my life, the greatest movie ever made. Yeah. Yeah. Very good. Have you point is what you say. 'cause I just saw vice I wasn't as crazy about vice. But all of a sudden, vice became my favorite movie when Ben table. All right before. So carried on. But there is not a bad table in that room. If you're in the room, and I say, then a great job sorting out for you. If you're sitting at table in that room, if you've done well, you're supposed to be there. And that's pretty cool, and I would say on Dan, which was great is like he walks around, and people know, and I I really creeped on them at one point because he went over to Meyer, Sheila Lee, and he had a ten minute conversation. There was an embrace new were it was like he picked up a conversation. He finished with you from the last time and the same with Barry Jenkins who picks the show idea right out of the jump which I think you should probably pursue at this point. How? How seriously how happy was very Jenkins to see? He was he was like, no you walked up. Hey, I got I got an idea for you kinda like around the horn movie makers are talking about it. And then he you introduce me and those from Florida state, and he he gave me that information. We have to remain tight lipped about and that was pretty interesting. So that is one thing we also Shirley's there was there. I fall Paul Schrader the bathroom Vigo Mortenson thera, Shelly there it wasn't. I thought I'd be a little more warm with my my interaction with her. But it is what it is. It is what it is Vigo. You were great with though, tell tell us what you did Vigo 'cause you went over to him. And I said what's the in? And you had a great in with Vigo. We're were strategizing about what the in here is gonna be our in Reten dancing. Oh, love Becker. I the only Duda bekker's. Underrated. By what I'm Sam the little like, I'm a curve you through I'm into the properly rated. That's a great underrated show. He plays a missing it was a precursor to curb your enthusiasm bekker's. Underrated. Fine, fine. Whatever you say, what story Vigo Mortenson the first thing. I did in this industry is did Argentine soccer in English and. They have the whole the the big the classical Domingo the classic on Sunday. And it would have one of the big teams from Argentina playing against each other. And one day teams team loaded though was playing and they were rising top of the standings. And they painted the crowd, and I Steve eagle into the sun or shirt and. And then the interview him, and he speaks perfect argentine-spanish. So I do some homework in grew up there. And I mean, that's probably where he was so good for belief those way. You know? So I go he has he's he's definitely feel for more. So I told him I go, hey in Spanish Vigo when myself many years ago was I was broadcasting assembled game. Then you were there, and I just wanna say it was really cool too because that connection and then he points to his tie, and he's pockets where and it's the sun will end colors. So we actually wore that for that game. So it turned out to be very appropriate that I would walk up to him and mentioned that so he stills that's his that's his team. Then that if there was some ends a plane, I would wonder would be at the critics choice awards on time or wanted to watch the end of that. But that was pretty cool. It was just three because we hadn't we had to time it in between commercials, and the guy's gonna get your seats. Second. I'm like. It'll be fifteen second. Please get your seat you in the middle of the really bad jacket gets your chair in the line of the cameras ax is not exaggerate. You have two minute commercial. Right. We just run to get to the table takes forty five seconds. He'd have. And then they're talking to somebody would have Bob Odenkirk. I love odor by Odin Kirk. He's putting drops in Max's for God's sakes. Please interrupt and like all wait till the drops. And then I went up to okay bone Kirk love better. Thank you more poorly. Loved the Larry Sanders show. Unbelievable. The agent exhau-. Thanks appreciate. And that's it. That's that's your ten seconds. Bob odenkirk. And then the way you go Diego. Luna was great with your speaking Spanish, he might come to L ESE game. I gave him my Lord, I go look listening. I'm listening. If you wanna come LAF see game me an Email here, and I'll sort it all out. I haven't heard from him yet. So I don't know about pressing for him at some point. But yeah, you you're etiquette. Was great. You wait for the I go with you waited for straighter to finish whatever he was doing in the bathroom for. Putting the full court press on him. I mean, it was like Kentucky for like Calipari inbetween commercial breaks told us to just crush crush the celebrities defensively. For apple. I it was the we've embarrassing, but it was a lot of fun. And then we did on the entire crew better call Saul right, which was Klein elax. Yeah. So I just wanna quickly say Schrader when I said to him was, hey, interviewed you when you're on a train back in may for my podcast, and I got cut off and you still call back when thank you. I really appreciate it. He goes always at the track. And I'm like, well, how would I know what train you're on? But I realize I was at all because because I sent an interview on a train. So he just assumed we were on the train together. So it's my phone I'm drag you're going to like multiple or something, but he was. Thanks for lately. Complete. My my my mind. I'm seventy four years old. Thanks you following me into the stall. And I said I was performed and he goes, thanks really means a lot to me. And then the capper was relieving in the night. And by the way, the show ends. I saw very very jank is a former running back I said very dark past he could wait to get out of there. When the show is over they are learning. But there was one moment which was the most memorable moment for us pick up the story as you're walking out somebody else out. Hey, adnan. Hey, max. So this gentleman and I saw him earlier walk by. And I thought we walk by looked at us and did a double take. He said he recognized. And then sure enough when he comes back. He was junior. Love you guys. All the time. He goes could you do something for me on camera and my kids and just do a little sportscenter ever high suggestion? He said, I'm a big fan, and I go, what are your kids, names and grain clean? Yeah. So right away. I was going. Let me do. And then he goes, here's my wife and three seahorn of better call Saul. Yeah. I see that's your wife. Like, Kim Wexler cer- white. He's again, I get over here and quickly max, then did get over here. Adage, so we went there, then we we talked her, and then we did a little video and dead that continued on Twitter. There was a lot of your e we were like, you know, race to tweet these photos or Instagram these photos out quickly enough. So there's a lot of repetition with our stuff, I provided most opponents, and then you re tweeted and posted them somewhere and the one that got the most traffic was Kim Wetzlar because she responded and the better call, Saul viewers responded until and dutiful thing. It was a thing. It was a nice bow on the evening, and he did very well. I think it was great. There's nobody better to party with the Mexican quick choice awards. If you need somebody who was fearless was willing to infiltrate maximum in checkup MAC and her is the name of the podcast. It's an apple podcast. And is a great listen. In fact, there's twenty when I have to listen to you just posted this and Saturday three Josie outdoor. Yeah. I can't wait to listen to our hinting exit. Yeah. Yeah. He did. You did. And by the way, I will also throw in free of charge. You by you. I company you award show. I will make champagne wine and got just for you. Like I did with Adnan. And as we race you race through to meet band dinner in Santa Monica and had a lovely whatever that was it was a good evening. It was a good piece of same. Definitely definitely adventures post shows. Well, actually, the best buddy good stuff. Nancy? And. All right pleasure was always bringing clear Atkins. You can find our Instagram and Twitter as well. We discussed earlier potential segment, titled ideas for Claire who is quickly become a mainstay here and Sinophile I said Clair's corner, and Dan mealy said well, can we say last? Yeah. Atkins Atkins diet. She must hear that every day. It was a working title. I I was going to think of something along the lines of Dayak. It's very car reference in there somewhere. I don't know. I was getting there was working. But the point is Claire has which I think is actually a really good title. When I was a weather on college. I had a segment up in the air with Claire. While up in the air, by the way, Clooney, great. My Doppler game. Clears Kendrick thing going on. I think this is a good comment. When Ryan leaf was here making the rounds. I'm sitting in the green room and Ryan leaf turn around. And goes you look just like, Anna Kendrick. And so, you know, my claim to fame I love I love it. What do you have? So you I said whatever you wanna watch. Let me know you said, yeah, I'm all over these documentaries, which I- embarrassingly no about. But now, I'm aware firefights give it to us. Yeah. I am a little embarrassed. I realize our Twitter feeds are vastly different. Because this was my entire Twitter feed all weekend. And it might be because it was a long weekend up here in New England. It was negative one degrees. So it was a perfect time to stay inside and watch movies, whatever in so Netflix and Hulu released in the same week a documentary about the fire festivals of twenty seventeen. And for those of you that don't know what the fire festival was it was an exclusive music resort on private island in the Bahamas is the brain child. Billy McFarland who was a twenty something New York City tech. Pro and the rapper jaw rule. You might not have heard of him in a long time. But he's made quite an appearance. Sean t back totally so six months before the festival trailer was released online, and it featured all these Instagram models and dolphins and yachts. And it blew up it appeared in my Twitter feed my Instagram feed. People started become interested in thinking this could sell a, you know in the Bahamas. I want to go to this. So if you're trying to put on a music festival in six months, it's just impossible. You can't do it. But this guy Billy really thought. I can do anything. I'm on top of the world. I've got great people behind me. I've got blink one eighty two. I've got migos. I've got all these great accident. And this is going to be everyone's gonna wanna come to this. So both of these documentaries take on through a lot of exclusive footage. What those six months where like leading up to what was a complete disaster. If you follow the adventure on Twitter. You know, the infamous photo is a. Packed lunch of a two slices of bread with a slice of cheese on it. And they said this is what they're feeding us here. So it was fun to follow along. But you really see how many people along the way were really devastated by this from people in the Bahamas to people in New York who invested. So the question is which one do you wanna watch? If you don't have the time like I did to watch both my recommendation would be to watch the Hulu version. I think it does a better. I know I stands looking at me, you might have to go out there and borrow a Hulu crime account or whatever. Because you know, we as millennials we share passwords so find a friend that has a Hulu account. It's way more cohesive. It's aid be explains Billy is and how he became important in this. And it shows you just the whole story and how Instagram influencers are real incredible part of of. My generation and how I mean it sounds to bit how influencers influence, but truly they do. So it just gets more cohesive. I also think the Netflix version was produced by the media group that was supposed to promote the festival so it feels like it has a little bit more of an agenda. So that kind of threw me off. And in the Hulu version you actually get interviews with Billy himself. So that's pretty remarkable to see this guy who I'm not gonna spoiler alert who's who's clearly in trouble for this in him trying to explain his thought behind it. And why he doesn't think he's at fault? And it was pretty remarkable. So, you know, if you're bored, and you don't wanna watch another screener, and you're not trying to go into a deep movie dive, this is a genuine hour and a half that you're gonna walk away being like that is unbelievable that nobody stopped that up amid a reclaimed Daniel reaction because you're aware of the stores will I mean, I watched the net flicks one. So I was disappointed to hear that you think who is better especially because I don't have a Hulu. Couches Email me later. Well, thank you it. But that is what I had heard is that the best part of the Hulu one was that. They actually get the interview with this guy, Billy? I don't know if anyone has seen JAL rule on Twitter. He tweeted something the other day of like people watch documentary and think they know everything in one of the documentaries. He essentially says this isn't fraud it was false advertising. And it was fraud fact, and you also think when you have a celebrity, and I don't know, I guess we consider Jarrell celebrity attached to things like this. They're not involved. They're just a name the reality was he was making multiple trips to the Bahamas. He's looking at the venues himself. He's helping book the models. He's helping put this together. And the fact that he's in the post meetings about how it didn't work. You really see how involved he was that was that was the biggest surprise to me. It's an easy watch too. Because you don't feel too bad for the people that got screwed over because it's all these rich uppity kids that had the money to go and the time to go and. All these influencers on Instagram. The only people you really end up feeling bad for our like the people in the Bahamas. Yes, it didn't get paid for any of their work etcetera etcetera. But it's it's it's almost like I I remember following the story as it happened. And it didn't bother me as much because the people that we're getting screwed over these very it was like the wealthy kids were stuck on an island in the Bahamas didn't have their private jet to fly them home. Yeah. It was Lord of the flies for Instagram generation ESO is fund of watching far. But you it is remarkable that nobody stopped at along. The you're just waiting for win somebody gonna pull the plug on this. But Lord of the flies character piggy toughen, their the favorite. Congratulations by best picture. Best director best screenplay best. Actress to bring actresses unbelievable lady with the nominations that Romo. Yeah. Now, I'm very excited about it. I I'm not so sure I would give it best picture. I'm still feeling say Dan tweeted that he did. I mean, obviously, I get a Levy Coleman best actress. But it's I'm. I'm still undecided there. I I need to go back. And really think about what I saw. I finally green book. Oh boy. I mean, it is made. It's it's a good watch. I liked it lot more than I thought. I would allot more than I wanted to like it. But it is such a clean full circle. Happy. Go lucky campy feel that. And of course, reading now of the back story, that's hours at a little bit for me. So I can't fully hop on board by yet. But it was I mean, it was really good watch till wins. Best picture. I don't I don't think I'd be disappointed that I think I was having this conversation with my mom recently about the whole family went to the shape of water last year. And I'm thinking, okay. This is going to be best picture, but you can't tell me that shape. A water is for everyone. I mean that that is exactly. And so in that won best picture, you know, there are people that that's feel excluded and go look the Oscars for me. These aren't my type of movies green book, I can get behind something. That's really hard to hate. You know, I it's really inclusive. Yes. Seven hundred members the academy and the option a better job of getting more women more. Minorities. But that you're right. That is very much an old school academy audience. Like, Jay Bilas. That's the best movie. I've seen in years. Yeah. I could see Jay Bill saying that Trey wingo. Loved it, Dan, Shulman loved it. I'm like white men in their fifties. That awesome. Yeah. AARP crowd note. No question question right up in the air clarify. Thank you. Thank you. He's just an average man with an average light. And he's reviews dictate that right up. My alley foremost flaming train, Dan stanza kids. I thought it was a little little much every man, but a bit of an absence here in every minute. What are you coming in hot with? I one of the first one of the new year. I love how earlier in this pod. We're like we're never going over an hour again. This is definitely going to be over an hour just further. Okay. From now while pretending after this one will hold today ended up tighten it up. Yeah. Going forward the world will break your heart ten ways to Sunday. That's guaranteed. I can't begin to explain that. Or the craziness inside myself and everyone else, but guess what Sunday's my favorite day again. Silver linings playbook. Thousand twelve film written and directed by David Russell that stars. Bradley Cooper, Jennifer, Lawrence, Robert de Niro, Jacki Weaver, and Chris Tucker Cooper plays a previously undiagnosed bipolar man who moves back in with his parents after a court ordered eight months, stay at a mental institition. He is optimistic about reclaiming the life. You knew before he was institutionalized in desperately tries to convince himself and anyone around him that he's doing great. This is what I learned at the hospital. He says you have to do everything you can you have to work your hardest. And if you do if you stay positive you have a shot at a silver lining a little on the nose, but it's characters reacclimated into society isn't exactly smooth. He has violent episodes in the middle of the night. One time throwing a book through an attic window because he's bothered by the ending another time waking up the entire neighborhood because he can't find his wedding video, and he has multiple run ins with a police officer after violating a restraining order Cooper's therapist tells him that he needs a strategy or a playbook if you will to deal this turbulent mood swings. He'll too. Finds it in Jennifer Lawrence who is struggling with her own mental illness. There's a great scene in a diner where Lawrence's character realizes that Cooper's put off by the idea of acquainting their situations. You think I'm crazier than you. She tells him she eventually leverages her relationship with Coopers strange wife to get him do agree to train and perform a dance routine with them. The only problem is that the commitment takes Cooper away from his obsessive compulsive father a sports book. He played by deniro who is convinced that Cooper provides the right juju for his beloved Philadelphia. Eagles silver linings playbook was nominated for eight Oscars all four acting categories. Best picture best director adapted screenplay and editing. Jennifer Lawrence who undoubtedly won the movie picked up the only win friend of the podcast, Robert deniro. And I can't believe I get to say that. But friend of the podcast Arava deniro had no business getting nominated for best supporting actor. There is a terrible scene in the attic where he blames himself for Cooper's illness, which probably got him the nominee. Nation Jacki Weaver is sweet. And although she was making crabby snacks in homemade's. I didn't find her to be too compelling on the rewatch Chris Tucker though in his first non rush hour role. Since Jackie Brown is excellent as Cooper's friend from the mental institution, silver linings playbook is a heartfelt up lifting tale about two people thrown off kilter by traumatic events who rely on each other to regain normalcy in a crazy world, I give it the full four stars. Because it's Excelsior while on man. I like it. I remember seeing the trailer Ernest Hemingway stuff, and I'm like, this might be a little bit cheesy. But it's it's a sweet movie that I think is genuine heartfelt. And we got a six or we had a floor the hell the L. What's what's the Dansk or they get a four or five like that just is such a funny endearing seen like you said really, well, acted deniro his talked a little bit about the fact that he does have a son who is autistic. And so you know that seeing that bedroom. See news really emotional talking about it. That's a rare example I think of deniro not just tapping the greatness as an actor. He's actually relating to something very personal. Him so Cooper's obviously, great your girl. Jennifer, Lawrence good. Philly movie. Good a lot of running in the movie, you know, my big runners and a lot of scenes like in the middle of the street. Yeah. All throughout a lot of lot of it's running out of picture menaul garbage bag on wanting. You're right. That is my go-to. And I've probably told you before my go-to Halloween costume if I can't think of anything else for Halloween sweatpants sweatshirt garbage bag, find football good for you. If people know who you are they oh, I'm gonna like this person. Like if you show up to Halloween party. I don't know if you're going to costume parties anymore these days and showed up wearing that. And someone knew what you were. Yeah. No that you would like them if they ask you what you were you'd be like screw that person. I don't want to talk to them. Yeah. Good point dead giveaway. That right. This person's cool pass your thoughts civilized playbook. Love it. Early. I'm a rambler keep my answer short concise. Do. I do I knew recommends gonna take the criticism to heart. Thanks so much. Listen to fall back next time. We are hoping fingers crossed racy or we've exchanging emails. Her husband are texting. So I don't I don't see any reason why they're not gonna do it. So resident here we're gonna talk better. Call Saul also watched the first season of bury a Rick's recommendation trying to get through marvelous MRs Mazel, maybe something good we Claire. 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"Referencing they're working overtime pulling out the Colorado Rocky Mountain high. Yeah Yeah so Djing. Since Morales took over the imaging. It's like five hundred percent better. It is it's unbelievable. We did have that conversation perception about you yesterday but I would love to. I would love to get mad and and yell and scream but you know it's sad but true so sometimes why do you. I think that's really what it is. Sometimes I you know quest. You've all my stories. Yeah plus I sleep. Who hours a night? Yeah that's all that's the other thing. Plus the Gulf the Gulf is another thing. Yeah the the golf actually. Keep me awake there. You go all the other stuff does so how. How did it go? Go going through the airport with the Aluminum Body and the devil pictures and the hughniverse with the to read Is and all that stuff we we don't go through that part of the airport. We go into a private terminal but the thing about it is if you don't go if you've never been to Denver if you don't use Denver for a major city and I go to all of them. The airport is so far from civilisation. Impossible to explain your like forty five minutes from another building. That's crazy I mean like we were driving last night for like thirty five minutes and somebody goes. Are we still in the air that adds to the conspiracy of the thing right because if it's this enormous underground city run by the ILLUMINATA yards the secret government or what it is it has to be really as far away from Denver. Yeah it so but once you get into Denver Denver's great It was beautiful today. It was like fifty no nice. They said it. I was going to be thirty minutes. But that's what it was here. This game maze is a real game. Oh sure it is. This is the number one team against the number two team in the West and strangely the nuggets who are known for running a banana scorn a lot of points are the number one defensive team in the NBA They they're they have the best offensive rating the whole league so this could be a really low scoring game if you had any mythical money left you should bet the unimportant I can't bet on the NBA. I do have mythical money left will you acquit though. No I've got I've got thirty. Seven thousand five hundred dollars says you can seat it. I did not. Yeah but I didn't realize I was going to win to PARLANE. Yeah you are I. I wrote you text of the weekend you know it. We're raising money for the Jimmy V.. Foundation Jimmy V.. Sang was never give up. Never give give up whatever the opposite of that is that you always you give up in the first quarter. If if jared goff throws an interception I got a text from you. This game is over the zero zero in the first quarter wrong. I can't help it. I'm just a few hand on us to fan. I mean you're the Steve Mason. Foundations thing would be always give uh-huh always give up. I think John He's he conceded right. You saw the concession. It's over I know we see and even worse. He broke one of his own rules. He conceded in writing. Yes he gave me. That was not a concession. All I said was mythical money is is over I. I didn't say I quit mythical money I resigned for mythical money. Money is over sir. I play a lot of golf if I go to you in golf. I say this is over. That's a concession actually. Nobody's man you are not in it. I'm alive I have like five. Grandma screen precedent pro. I I went on precedent. You allowed me to bet to parlays this weekend end which means that you can't lose. He may have. You can't now say oh. No that didn't count because we should have been out. Wait a minute. Greg was a court of law. You would have had to make your case a week ago. He he's got. You Humid five thousand dollars at that time. I don't know because because he could now mace. Yes you have to do will you have to do is. You've got a bit like twenty grand on a five team partly all why no. I'm betting it all on a fourteen poorly in. Then what do you get if you win. two hundred and so I think think we figured out two hundred and seventy dollars listing. Berkman Hasta this week. Is this the last week. Were betting right. Your last days next Monday yes. Four hundred twelve thousand five hundred if you bet it all on a fourteen team pocket but no mace. You do not have to bet until Bergman bets true in front no we all but at the same time Oh lash we did. No this is all going to make it interesting that way. You can't sit on your lead. Yes in other words the amounts that you that you were going to do what my bet is. My bets are but I don't have to tell you how much I'm putting down not but realistically how much did real is put in a fourteen team parlay for four hundred and twelve thousand dollars. He's not going to double his money. He's not GonNa bet two hundred thousand dollars or two hundred hundred thousand dollars to try to beat me in in the event I hit a fourteen parley. I would if I was him. I just look at even just looking for some some magic. Okay I've to parlay straight. I'm looking for one more. Why don't we placing using these bets? Friday yeah Friday right in by Friday and if you want to just give them to either funchess or Amanda. That's fine but I'm not going to take down the amount of money that you're going to put put down. Yeah well if Mason spitting at all then Bergman urine box you either have to try and pass what he could win or you can play it safe or hope for the best. Yeah you can hope for the best dollar Jim. Yep that you could do the Alex. You're back one day. John how much do you have left. I've six grand so I'M GONNA figure I've got to figure out how many I may have to bet an eleven team poorly. No no me more. I think I may have to go like fifteen teamer I I will learn weekend. Whatever Matt I have to bet? I will be ready Bergman how much you have now I have two hundred thirty four thousand. Actually I won. What was the final score of the game last night? Thirty seven to thirty. I won another ten to forty four with you know what people are saying too is have you heard. The story added New England. Then Tom Brady. And a bunch of guys are begging hovercraft to take Antonio Brown. Oh No oh happening. Already got the money I it was on the roster December. The first by the way the other thing is and we'll talk about this coming up. It's a short show and by away Matt bottom of the Hour Matthew Berry talented mister. Romeo and then at three forty today. Johnny Hecker And at four o'clock is fast track. So that's the way the show stacks up By the way clear there is on the odds sheet. I don't even get an eleven team. PARLAYED only goes to ten and a ten team Parlay is seven hundred in twenty two one excellent. Oh I'm going to have to get a million dollars on a ten team. Her her if John and I I I'm curious now let's Let's do this coming up next. Let's do the because you talk to all all the rich fat cat. Yeah Yeah and I think. USC IS MAKING A fatal mistake with how they're handling. We will do that coming up by the way this portion of show brought brought to you by linemen healthcare changing health care one person at a time and its fifth row. Friday's going on right now. Giant price package fifth row seats Lakers Timber Wolves on December break an Autograph Basketball and Anthony Davis Jersey and a Lebron James Jersey. Something we say in the next while sometime during this ninety minutes show Will be on the pop quiz Friday at five fifteen for our big fine old fifth row. Fridays package of the year Mason and Ireland. ESPN LA MASON SOON IRELAND ESPN La. John here's what Pete Thamel said yesterday from Yahoo Sports About Clay Helton. But I think we'll know a lot this week about clay Helton and whether his job is save they've or their staff changes at USC right now. Amanda from the sense I've gone from talking to forces at USC. I would think that they're going to bring health and back enforce changes ages defensive coordinator clancy. Pendergast John batchelor. Special teams coach will be two of the coaches who may need to be run OUTTA troy in order for healthy. Keep his job and move on. It is not in Hell and will return. Momentum is trending that way to fire he and the staff it would cost up to twenty million dollars depending on different guys is mitigations and buyouts and what job they had John. You've got a lot of people you got people in your neighborhood you talked to a lot of USC people fat cat donors types. What are they saying saying about Klay? Hilton how would they feel if pete them was right and he comes back not happy. Not One person I've talked to once clay Helton to be the football including me here. Not One one person. So I'm trying to figure out where Helton supporters in now. What you've said is and what others have said is well? You have to consider the by what Tamil just talked talked about. Twenty million dollars so two days ago in the San Jose Mercury News. Yup Jon Wilner who covers the PAC twelve young for that. That paper ran a column the headline in the column says for USC. The cost of keeping Clay Helton is greater than the cost of firing him and he does all the math. So let's say that families right that it's going to be twenty million dollars to buy out clay and his staff are eight. Wilner ran all the figures from the attendants over the past two years. attendances bromine even for the SE. Ucla terrible all right so hello up. Basically There's fifteen to twenty thousand. Fewer people going to games over the past two years or helping has been the coach and this year wasn't padded. They were eight and four. Yeah but still fifteen is fifteen thousand. Two hundred eighty was the average amount of people not coming to the games that were there in. Sam I'm Donald Slash. Yes That projects out to about nine million dollars in lost revenue just at the gate and then wilner makes the case that that you could say the trojans lost nine million At least with all the other things that happen like black of merchandise sales sure loss donations particularly major notations and sweet sales And if fault and bone Mike Bone the new ad and Carol full the the ad hold onto Helton. Those numbers stayed the same so he figures wilner figures that the cost of keeping Helton is about eighteen million which is right around with the buyout is at twenty million. And here's the big thing right now in recruiting. USC is ranked in the sixty yards. A disaster they are dead last in the PAC twelve twelfth at a twelve teams. And that's because it's really easy to recruit against USC. Let's say you're at you're at a top football player in Los Angeles like the the quarterback by the way Here's the thing Ryan Abraham was on here yesterday he said of the top twenty four prospects in the state of California. None of them are committed. USC and here's what if you're let's say you're one of those twenty four kids and you Dabo Sweeney or Nick Sabin for even like Tom Herman Marco Cristobal or it'll winning about co-winner senior living room and they say hey Steve. You're great player. We'd love for you to you. Know come play for us at Oregon Oregon What other schools you considering and you say? USC and what. I would say to you as well. I don't want to tell you what to do. But Clay Helton doesn't have a contract and if view commit to him. There's a really good chance you'll be playing for somebody else a year from now. There's no stability. USC SO I wouldn't go to USC. I'd pick one of your other your schools and all those kids are buying that there is no reason to go to USC SO USC has to fire Clay Hill while they got. I mean first things first first you gotta you gotTa get the Schneider. You gotta do something because right. Now recruiting class is hanging in the balance. If you were to the worst case scenario is to let this just dangle out there to just let let this be in a in a state of limbo because nobody can make a commitment based on whether or not clay. Hey is gonna be there or not. You've got to give somebody something to commit to. So the worst thing they can do is just let clay Helton twist in the wind once is what they're doing in right now and and that's the thing I don't understand now I always say and you and I always talk about on the show. Never Fire anybody until you know who you're going to hire but this may be one of those. It was rare exceptions where they need to move first on clay because every day they say nothing they look like idiots although you can't you also can't commit into a program when you don't know who the coach is going to be Right I mean. They've got they've got to move really quickly if they're going to keep clay make the announcement if if they're gonNA get rid of clay. Have the Guy Place. Because recruiting season starts in two weeks. Oh No it makes. It's going on now. Well but I mean the ninety day here it starts charts into. Yeah but these kids are committing now and and for Mike Bonin curl full to sit there and do nothing just seems to indicate to me that they don't get the jobs that they just accepted that they. I mean this is the most important part of your job. If you're mike bone there is nothing else matters other than the football program if the football program is in the toilet and you national championships in baseball basketball. Men's and women's volleyball no one will care the front porch of. US's the football. So I think the longer this goes the less likely it is that clay Helton is staying because what. I'm assuming what I'm assuming is as they are now talking to other candidates as we speak And if they're talking to other candidates what the ideally you dismiss Miss Clay Helton on one day and you name the next head coach the day after or two days later you can move forward and and smart people play the media. You can leak it to me. If you have urban. Meyer you can leak. It's not gonna be Urban Meyer. Well if you have him you can leak it though. Sure you can say. Let's say you have the Chris. Petersen Peterson thing is interesting yesterday Peterson quits and I texted. You and I said maybe this is what they're workout. That's what I thought right away. I thought Oh look Claes. On Peterson. Tired the next day then when it comes out that the reason Peterson is leaving. said he's burned out and he's taken a job in the athletic department but did you see what he said today. No I do not are today. He he spoke for the first time and said No. I don't think I'm done coaching. And I I haven't considered where where my next job is gonNA be so he's keeping the door open he's not right. You know it I would know yes. Read the last text I sent you was. I don't think it's Peterson now. I think Peterson is at least a remote possibility. Your you know if he doesn't come out today and say no. I'd not done coach. Here's what here's what the issues. If you are going to coach why wouldn't you go to. USC that sounds like a perfect job. So here's what the issues And by the way we'll tell people now coming up Matthew Berry talented Mister Rodeo If you've got a question this or that about your fantasy team you can call up. Eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN or you can tweet us At Venice Mace at La Ireland If it's not urban Meyer. I don't believe it is. Who is it like? Who is the home? Run candidate out there. That gets it done. I don't know who that is. Okay well if they're if they are going to look the other way on off the field issues then it's urban Meyer. Then you don't even have to go to James Franklin you just pay your maniacal and see I think. James Franklin's out to I wouldn't consider Franklin but you you are known I hear the Word Word Sexual Assault and rape. I'm like totally against it. Okay that's that's good but you're not running USA correct but but I- College at College athletics is full of compromises like this full of it yet. These are ones that they should not make. Well a but that doesn't mean they want Demi Net by by all accounts. I mean everything we're hearing is that there's enormous pushback from mean again. This is reporting out there that Carol Fault is pushing back against the idea of urban Meyer. Who is reporting thing that I think? That's all speculation. I don't think saying well. Let's be honest. It's all speculation the entire thing I mean at Amaya whoever that guy is actually a pretty good. USC report. I he fire he fired urban. Well I mean yeah but I mean you you. He Spit balling. It's it's not done. It's not a real thing right. But if he say he reported urban Meyer is fi or he hired. He reported that Claes. Fired and urban admire is the next head coach. If that happens tomorrow isn't Atom Maya Right Yeah but we'll he just he just went will he have just just guest. Because Pete Damn who's a really respected college football writer for SL says no decision has been made in fact they're leaning towards keeping clay right. I think in keeping clay would be a disaster me too I think would be the worst possible scenario the worst possible scenario and I think hiring urban is the the people that would be disgusted. By the people in your boat would far be outweighed by the. US fans would be excited about winning again. And I think that's what they need to figure out. Can it's a private school. So they can hire over. They want well. Of course it can. Yeah and I think. Urban Meyer is probably the guide but if they're keeping clay it's a clear indication that Carol Fault and Mike Bone are way over their head and don't get the job now just You know I'm not ready. Say they're about Mike Bone only because the and this is what I was talking about this yesterday with Ramona. The one thing you could say about Mike Bone is for the first time in a long time. USC has an actual professional athletic athletic director. Right somebody that wasn't tied to the school somebody who happened to flaky later back or running back at USC or was buddies with the public extort. Exactly exactly so so. There's still time to make the smart move But I keep is a disaster. I don't know who that next guy's GonNa be But a man of its clay. I don't know anybody that's happy about it and I don't know one public figure who's advocating keeping clay. No me either. No one like like allom media anybody. NOPE NOPE nope. Nice Guy. Nice Guy would love to live next door to won't be. I think you'd be a great name in new coach. UNLV OR MEMPHIS. I heard the more is going to be the next head coach. UNLV Jim Mora. Yeah Yeah I saw that pass by on the twitter this weekend. Yeah I'd coming up next for you. Matthew Berry is going to be with this talented Mister Rodeo. If you've got a fantasy football dilemma. Eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN or you can tweet US at Venice Mace. AFC at La Ireland Mason Ireland Espn La. Yeah let's do fantasy football. Matthew Berry is on the line. All guests is to the Mason in Ireland show call in on the Morongo casino resort and SPA celebrity hotline Morongo. Good Times I say celebrity because Matthew Berry Was One of the stars of the avengers. Endgame he was in a scene with with Let's see it was with Robert. Downey junior and Tom hit allston. He was fantastic. Antastic in that scene He's joining us here momentarily By the way I've got some I'll just this in while rating for Matthew. Scott Wolf reported order earlier today a former. USC Coach told Me That on the coaching grapevine. People are saying. Don't rule out Bob stoops. The speculation Is Stoops showed little interest in Florida state because he could be but he could be interested in. USC He would be a big name if USC is unable or Carol fold is unwilling to hire urban. Meyer you think stoops wins the press conference. I think people would be mad at wasn't Meyer. I think stoops would be fine. Be Be like okay. But why didn't we hire urban while it's basically going to be anybody they hire if it's not urban mean box is a national championship. Coach has won National Championship. Won Two national championships. I think Bob stoops these got one now and to me that's probably the second best name on the list I think that would satisfy some. Would you rather have stooped. Chris Peterson I'd rather have Chris Peterson me too but I I kinda don't I kinda by the I'm burnout and I don't want to coach for awhile. Fans that he saying well you and I are burned out more still working. No it's true. True burned out. Everybody is burned out. Yeah no question. all right Let me see I wanna Dunkin one more thing while we're waiting of course JON is in Denver Getting Ready for Lakers nuggets. And by the way this is part of a brutal title back to back John. I don't remember another Denver. Utah back to back. You can't remember the last one either but I think they're going to win one if not both of these games. I think that the the bucket a cold water that Dallas through on them on Sunday is going to wake them up and I I like their chances in these two games. Let's let's find out if I'm right all right let's go to Matthew Berry who's online now. Hey Matthew Hardy man I'm good guys. I'm good I'm driving around with a minute You you know it's the holidays and everything like that so the connection is not great. How are how is everyone in that? We're doing good matthew and we'll we'll jump right in here as you know in the Hollywood football league a last-place last place. Mace is is right where he always is dead last last in the butter I am. I'm in tank mode. I'm in fighting position. Matthew I'm six and the top five spots get paid and I'm considering doing something that I think is idiotic and I want you to either talk me into it or out of it I took my two quarterbacks or Carson Wentz who is decent last week and Ryan Tannehill who. I picked up off the scrap heap three weeks ago. I'm actually considering playing Ryan Tannehill down the stretch to try and get me into the money. Am I in idiot for considering acidifying Ryan Tannehill. You're not an idiot. Tanta Hill's been great. He wasn't greatest past week. But he's been top ten fantasy quarterback since he took over in Tennessee having a week to week thing. I will say I think this week given sort of the pace of play at Tennessee plays this week I actually would start Carson Wentz. Who as you mentioned didn't look good last week? Finally a full complement of receivers back Jeffrey. And he's playing playing on Monday night to Matthews Planning. It's the giants winces. So Oh that's always fun to have nearly every order right every every non rookie quarterback that's face the giants this year has scored at least eighteen and a half fantasy points in espn standard scoring. So Ah I have went ranked higher than Tannahill this week. But it's not crazy because for the past six weeks or so Tanna Hill's been the better quarterback Ben Carson Wentz. Hey I wanted to point out. I'm in a Champions Round League which is a second chance league. And I'm leading that league right now. So John last-place last place. Mace is not in last place. At least there. Can I get into that championship too late too late. We already did that. let's go to Eli Bijon in Orange County. Is it Beeson. He yes it is. What's going on you're on with Matthew Berry Berry how are you? I'm good thank you. That's good so Basically my question is I Clinton number one e my the and my biggest issue is wide receiver. Devers is there a specific teams. I should look for like maybe like the giants with you. Get like a waiver wire. Pick up 'cause I tyler Boyd Mike Williams and tyrod Sarah Williams and I'm say with every other position it's just those three wide receivers and even failing over except boy last week but yes boy so matthew what wide receivers are available in most. ESPN leaks these days. Well you know a guy who is pretty interesting exact Pascal. Who you know obviously had the big game for the coast last week? Weekdays look like t y Hilton coming back anytime soon and You know Eric Eric Hebron is out so that Casco. They'll just put chester rogers on I R. So it's kind of a very narrow targetry their Indianapolis so Zach Pascal Kid. They like quite a bit. He's had success is kind of connection. There would be percents. He's out there in a lot of leagues now. My comment came out today and said Hodges is going to Be The starter for the steelers. This week they have a great match up with Arizona this weekend. Washington I believe. He scored a touchdown in three of the last four weeks. So that's another guy that's out. There is a little bit too big play dependent for my knees but without knowing sort of the depth of your league and who's out there Those are some guys that I think you could look at. I certainly understand and wanted to upgrade from Jairo Williams and Mike Williams both of whom have been disappointing lately. They Matthew is. Tom Brady still startle ish. Because Cuba to like e always hard to say like everyone started on the right kind of league. So you know and I and the team League everyone started you know and a ten team league not so much the two quarter big-league or not I I will say that certainly i. I'm not one of those people that are like the Patriots are done. You Know Berry Tom Brady. We've had this conversation for years and years and every time you get bet against Tom Brady and the Patriots it makes. You look like an idiot so I am certainly not sitting here going like They're done I will say if you look traditionally and you look at the Patriots and what Tom Brady even in years. In which comedies awesome. They always start to run more in December the Patriots. And if you look at Tom Brady's career Fantasy numbers over the last four weeks. This season's over like the last couple of years. Whatever like like if he was a qb three he's like QB twelve for the fantasy playoffs if he was to be six QB fourteen like he always tends to go in? The Patriots always tend to go more run. Heavy heavy as it gets colder and so I have multi my top ten for the week so I think he's a he's a QB to this week and it sort of just depends on what other options you have. All right thank you is is. I can't believe I'm even GonNa ask this because behoves was so good last year but is it. I personally suggests that Lamar Jackson accent might be the best fantasy quarterback ever this year in a one year window. Not only is it not crazy. It's accurate I mean so understand that last this year Patrick Mahomes set the all time record in the NFL for most fantasy points in a season by quarterback he scored I think four hundred sixteen. ESPN standard scoring Lamar. Lamar Jackson is on pace this year. Guys for four sixty three. Wow so think about that. Fifty points more than the highest scoring season of all time. I mean not only. Is it going to beat it. He's going to blow past it. So you know Mason Mason some in person two weeks ago uh-huh and makes you texted me that you've never seen anything never never. I've never seen anything like that before. He is just unbelievable and at the credit to John Horrible Arab. Listen Lamar Jackson special kids. But it's a credit to John Harbaugh and Greg Roman and the entire staff in Baltimore because a lot of coaches and this is something you see all the time in the NFL NFL. A lot of coaches are like my sister. I'm doing this system. It is what it is fit into it and figured out and there's so many great players that came out of college that didn't work in the NFL because they just didn't have a coach. That said you know what I'm GonNa highlight what you do well and I'm GonNa hide what you don't and John Harbaugh who you know the the offense the Baltimore Ravens. His ran was you know. Kinda this deep passing offense with you know five-set drops with Joe FLACCO and They completely changed their offensive identity. Any they're like we have. Some Lamar Jackson is a completely different kind of quarterback. And Joe FLACCO is and we don't care we're going to change our entire offense of identity to fit this kid and they're obviously you know reaping the results. Well you know good for them and it's weird to me. That most coaches don't do that I don't think most coaches in the NFL do that. All Right Hey Matthew. Thank you very much for coming on this week. We appreciate a lot. No pressure guys. Thanks so much okay cool. There's Matthew Berry coming up now. You know the slogan John Seven five were still alive. I actually think the rams are still alive especially after what happened last night. Yeah big help I coming up next for you is Johnny Hecker Punter for the Rams Rams top of the hour. We've got fast track Mason and Ireland. ESPN LA I Big Win Sunday. The rams they blow out Arizona. Thirty forty-seven out in the desert and we are getting ready for Sunday night. Football Rams versus seahawks joining us right. Now it's time for hang time. Johnny Hecker sponsored sponsored by. I five your baby's brain doesn't require fancy toys or videos talking reading and singing or the tools you need talk read sing. It changes everything to learn and more visit I five California dot com and Johnny Hecker joins US right now. Hey Johnny how are you man. Hey guys I'm great bounceback week feeling good and Yeah some seahawks is coming weekend johnny so there were two plays that have been running a lot. I'm wondering if you saw. Did you see the trick. Play in the Miami Game I did. That was brilliant Man What a dream to throw a fake field goal touchdown to the kicker I think that is every holders dream so that is really cool. Happy for those guys in for you. What Johnny at you ever seen that play before like when you saw the formation did you know okay? I know what they're doing l.. Now I had no idea. I've never seen that. That is An original as far as I know I mean football is such a copycat sport. I'm sure maybe it's happened to some coaches suns literally game or something in the big leagues. But I'm that original as far as a holder. Have you ever been called on to throw a pass. I have actually have conversion and a touchdown on my resume out though was my rookie year. In my third year it was a pretty fun only touchdown. There's nothing like it Jenny and the other one was so big game last night that I'm guessing maybe not because you had jet but if you watch the game last tonight key play in the fourth quarter and the seahawks hike it to the the middle man the guy that stands between the Punter and the center and he takes off running. When you're watching a game at home can you see like like why Mason? I wouldn't be able to notice that but can you notice a formation where you go. Oh God they're in a they're in a formation where they're going to run a fake Sometimes I mean in in that moment I I kinda was on alert just knowing the the flow of the game and how Seattle is They'll how they like to kind of roll the dice on special teams so I knew that there was a moment where they would take advantage if they if they could Yeah that direct staff to the PCP we call the piece the personal protector of direct snap to him and just as a sleep to write a tried and true and and run for a long time. And then you see them execute that was bittersweet I mean you're you're you're glad to see a specialties trick. Play work but One of those guys. I I really don't get out of it. You know so johnny slogan. This week is Seven and five were still alive still alive for the for for the playoffs. Which I'm thrilled about I always think after a really bad loss things can go one way or the other. What was it about last week's preparation isn't that led to the blowout win on Sunday? Yeah you're totally right. I mean teams can either kind of shatter come together a little bit stronger. You know. It's kind of how. Oh how steel is made stronger. Put it in the fire and and Wacky for the hammer and they've really condensed the the material but Yeah I think the team we just really had a strong focus and virgin see that. Listen we're not gonNA let that The loss to the Ravens GonNa let them beat US twice. I said that last week's interviews it was you know you have to really learn what you can and then just move forward with a positive mindset and just realized that we have our week preparation. There's no reason why we shouldn't play our best game this season himself. That's kind of the focus that we had and you know it really starts with our head. Coaching leadership at all coaching staff has over us. Just the way they're able to keep us he bust plug plug it in and going in the right direction. Jenny win win. You'RE GONNA get another crack at the seahawks and they're now on top of the division with their win last night I always think about the fact that you had them beat that I would have bet my house. That Greg's arline makes that field goal and for whatever reason it it didn't go if you've been. Has this game been circled on the schedule when you get another crack at them Since that field goal do you think it is for you. It is for dragon the rest of the team. Yeah I mean definitely the especially the just the way that we came up short in that game and the way they know. We're celebrating the had the game one with about two and a half minutes left. I think that game was kind of still but a foot but I think we have a great opportunity to really just You know but that game behind us and move forward and then just. He'll relish the opportunity to play him in Primetime at home. Going to be a great atmosphere comes on the night. So so What was the plan this week for For hanging out with jet hanging out with Ya. I mean a lot of quality. Time he No we had Thanksgiving giving overestimate Quaid household are long for most gracious enough to let us come over there and Ban Jet was maybe the hungriest of all the children there. It's not much you turn down. So he actually climbed himself back into a high chair at one point in the night. Nassar more food so boy. Yeah yeah girl. And he's he's doing really well vocabularies growing every single day. It's really fun. They just talk with him and You know it gets to a point where you kind of plan like code breaker. The only talking to the people that that don't know you know it's kind of reassuring to have that kind of dad translation You know where I can decipher what he's trying to tell people in really funny me but Yeah it's just there's nothing better than quality time fell asleep Jetton then Mama aggies. I first word. It's for Mama Mama. I know. That's an easy one. And he said it Kinda like whiny like Kinda crying. He was like I'm you know. She gave birth to him. I'M NOT GONNA hold it against her. Go so johnny. Last thing how. How many months unsold this jet now jet is twenty one months old? Yeah it'll be okay at the end of February. So he is. He's getting up there okay. So does he go to the Games James yet does he. Will he go to a game at the Coliseum or does he watch at home he he usually watches at home. Especially Co.. We've had a couple of later games this season or a game that You know we just don't WANNA keep up past bedtime and then driving around can act on him but they do have a great childcare facility there for all the players Children Grant so he usually love going there and hanging with all the other babies and You know get the gets to play and have fun and you know while while we're in the state they didn't doing some real work you just get the place so he does enjoy going to games but he has it. I think he's only been the two games and it was the NFC championship in the Super Bowl. We're actually sat in the stands. So maybe we you gotta get into stands for more game. Well especially if he was there to beat the saints all right great. Well listen get it done this weekend man to. You're going to beat him. I told Manson I think you guys have been hungry. Ever since that ball went to went wide in Seattle and I think you've got a great chance after that loss for the Vikings last night to catch him so go get him on on Sunday tonight. Appreciate it guys. Thanks so much cool thanks very much. Johnny Hecker courtesy of I five California for five California Dot Com. You know what I'm looking at it here I'm looking at it John The playoffs basically start Sunday. Yeah this is this is it. You had this station with Bill MacDonald. WHO's the season ticket holder elderly? You A he thinks they need to win out to make it. I think they can lose once. I I think they can lose once because Minnesota Minnesota's going into it. I think they could lose twice. Yeah Minnesota can lose twice You know what's weird is. I don't know who has the tiebreaker. or how that works. Well it it we probably do. It's probably too soon to figure it out anyway. Yeah I know who would have the Tiebreaker Minnesota or the Rams But right now you're just a game out of the wildcard And winning out ideal three out of four. I think you still have a shot to get in ten and six six. Normally you make the playoffs at ten and six. Yeah Patriots missed one year at ten six they may have been eleven and five. I mean it depends. How good your division? Yeah you can't miss and of course the the NFC East is just a disaster. Yeah somebody's going. Somebody's going to matter what you go. All right fasttrack coming up here we go. Time for fast-track Lakers basketball. Good Ball pre-game coming up for you at the bottom of the hour John One side of the coin. You're in Denver the The nuggets other side of the Coin Lakers bounced back from the loss against Dallas. Call it. Oh please it's tails. The Lakers are eight. No away from Staples Lakers Lakers Lakers Lakers Lakers Lakers. I'll check all right. Mesa Washington State head football coach. Mike Leach is a quote machine. And I'm not sure if this one makes them either. Look good or bad okay after the cougars lost their seventh with straight Apple Cup to Washington Leach was asked why they can't beat the huskies. I you'll hear what they'll play get I first. He blamed it on recruiting. Then we asked if he he was asked. If he ever be teams with better recruits he went off on a local columnist again. Him John on Blanchette. Who at one point? You'll hear him. Call a Saint Timonium troll. I'll play the whole clip. You tell me if Leech comes across looking good like he's standing up for his guys or bad like he's looking petty. Here's the quote. Go all right does leach come across as kind of like a defender. There's a good guy or does he come off like a bad guy a you know. It's hilarious makes me laugh. But I mean Jim Harbaugh's facing exactly the same questions about Michigan and Ohio State. If you're in pullman. If you're a cougar fan you probably do want to beat Washington so I do understand the question. I don't think you can have that answer when you just lost your seventh straight Apple Cup. Yes I think that it's it's it if it was on another day in time and this guy has been unfair in his columns send you wanted it to zip him. You probably could but you come. I think he I think leech comes across as a sore loser there. I agree with you now. But it's funny. Yeah sanctimonious attack John Open the open the ESPN there and go to the NBA. Standings can you do that real quick. All right go ahead. Let's let's do a thought exercise because I like when people say that The NBA season is past the quarter pole. Basically and we know that the Mavericks Really Really Good Portland struggling golden state awful with the benefit of seeing about twenty games or so for everybody. Yeah one quarter of the season. Let's re Guests our final season order for the western conference. Okay so in the beginning of the year I said it would be Denver. Won Utah to Lakers three. Sorry Clippers four and I had exactly the same four okay. I now think the Lakers in Denver the two teams. That are playing here tonight. I are going to battle for the number one spot now that I've seen the Lakers and I know Brian not taken games off. I'M GONNA reroute mind to Lakers occurs. ONE NUGGETS TO CLIPPERS THREE UTAH Four. We have the same top four in a slightly different order. I actually think even without coli on the floor with Paul George. The clippers are pretty damn good. I've got them. As the TWO LAKERS ONE CLIPPERS TO DENVER THREE UTAH Four. Okay then I think the rockets are the five. We agree reather okay. Here's where it gets interesting yet. I'm GonNa say the Mavericks or the six I had the mavericks in the eight. I'M GONNA move them up to the six and I'm with you. There Maverick. says the six okay. I think Portland is going to figure some things out and move up and get the seven. We are exactly exactly the same so far and then we'll disagree on the eight okay. I think the Eighties Minnesota I think Karl Anthony towns and the Andrew Wiggins or playing at a different front level. I think they're going to battle with Phoenix. But I think it's it's Minnesota's the I think the ADA Sacramento since Owen Five. They are nine and five cents with wins over Utah. Boston and Denver I think Sacramento is going to be the eight Sacramento play. They beat Utah Boston in Denver in the last in the last two weeks. Okay well if you turn out to be right. It's one of the great you're down. You're like the guy in the titanic and the suit. That is yeah. I prepared to go down only the gentleman on and stick doubt you dock the Sacramento Kings out of your top eight just because they passed on Luca. Yeah that's crazy and who well even Phoenix Phoenix. Here's here's the thing about Phoenix. Their coach at the time he Gorka Koskoff Yup coached don-shik in Europe. They should definitely be docked and they wouldn't they wouldn't listen to him under Robert Somerset. I WanNa take the little. Did the coach did the coach. Which one take Luca? Wait a minute phoenix that the right choice. It took Bahamian your number one then was the last time that happened the number one. Is you the other Bahamian ever taken number one overall draft. Yeah we'll Rick Fox represents the Bahamas not me yes he does. Yes Rick Fast Fast. Track the ongoing Florida State. Coaching search took a unique turn last week with the news that President John Thrasher asked longtime boosters to help finance what he called a renaissance of four state football according to the Tallahassee Democrat Crat thrasher asks donors to support Seminole Boosters Inc in order to find the best candidates possible after finding Willie Willie after firing Willie Taggart FSU. Oh staggered eighteen million. Buy Out money Four to stay also buyouts to assistance as well as the funds is needed for facility upgrades around campus. So thrasher asked boosters in a letter to increase their contribution with a one time twenty twenty percent hike of what they normally increase. Will this work. Do you think Florida state fans will pony up to get a big name coach and if you Z.. Ask you to step in and help them hire big name guy. Would you give them more money. First of all boosters are like big money people. I'm not a big money booster. Aw Yeah you are now. You weren't before the less. I'm a booster. I'm not a big money. Well you're not alone. No I'm not an alum I you know what I I actually find it kind of offensive That you ask everybody up almost like we screwed up. Can you help bail us out with your wall. Yeah I think in. Why would we trust you to make the right decision this time exactly? It's like you're the same more onto hired Willie taggers like what is that expression pound wise wise penny foolish or something like that. It's just why would you give them more money. Given the fact that they already screwed it up the last time. Yeah it it it it just seems like you know the jets and the giants in New York have had several chances. Over the last five years to reboot the team and they just keep doing it wrong and and You wonder why they keep having the same people make the especially the giants have the same people making those decisions. It just doesn't make sense in this case I would. I would advise the Florida State Datacom. I'd give up more money if if if they may change the people making the decisions. Yeah give you more money by the way that expression was exactly right. Penny wise is and pound foolish. Frugal prudent and Frugal was small amounts of money but wasteful and profligate with large amounts. That's exaggerating but Florida state has been end with false chat. That Willie TAGGART CON contract All right John. The Saudi International Golf Tournament is scheduled for early next year. As as part of the European tour tire wards at Tiger Woods says he will not play Despite a seven figure appearance fee. Same for Rory mcilroy WHO also turned down the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia and his tournament now? The Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman was responsible for the killing of a journalist named Kamal Kashogi in October of twenty eighteen. The Washington Post writer who was based in the United States at the time had been critical of the Saudi prince and was killed inside the the Saudi consulate in Istanbul Turkey Guys like Phil Mickelson Brooks kept gun. Sergio Garcia have agreed to play in Prince Mohammad bin home. Tom Bin Salman Tournament. Do they deserve criticism I'd have to read more about it. to we still deal with him a- As a government representative like does do. Does the United States recognize him as the as the head of Saudi Arabia. He is he is the head of state just in a very the very ugly ugly way but we do deal with him we we negotiate with them and ensure with them. We we deal with Kim Jong Kim Jong UN right we deal with everybody if he is the recognized head of state and the United States is doing business with them then. I think these golfers are making business decisions. I'm certainly not. Do you know if Tiger Woods and rory mcilroy are sitting out on political grounds or are they just sitting. Because they don't want to go they have not said anything specific about it yeah. I wouldn't criticize those guys. If the United States deals with him deals with the Saudi prince now criticize the Saudi Prince. But I wouldn't criticize the Gulf. Would you play in the tournament I think I probably would if really what would you do business in Saudi Arabia. Like if you owned a if you owned apple or Google or we'll start. There's there's a difference though between then we put doing business in Saudi Arabia and basically Going to hang out with this guy who was responsible for the killing of journalist list. Well but here's the thing and by the way if you if you look at it. He's all over. He's hanging out with the golfers he's buddy buddy with the golfers It's his tournament right. What would I would say? Though is the golfers that is their business. But would you play in the Kim Jong. Hoon open I don't think there is one. No that one. Yeah Yeah and and again I don't I don't know I'd have to take it on basically but if if you're doing if if you're okay doing business in Saudi Arabia. Golf is their business business. Now if they go over there and and you know Say a bunch of Nice things about him and and look the other way on a bunch of stuff. Then then you know I think maybe they do deserve criticism but if they're just going over there to play in a tournament train win money than I probably wouldn't all right Let's see more fast track in two minutes Mason in Ireland. ESPN LA are rolling on on with fast-track in Ireland. Do you tack all right last month. We all saw the steelers played in Cleveland Myles. Garrett was ejected and suspended bended for the rest of the season when he swung his helmet into the head of Pittsburgh quarterback Mason Rudolph so fast forward to last Friday Freddie Kitchens. The browns head coach posed for a picture with a fan. Kitchens was wearing a t shoes at the movies. Yup Kitchens was wearing a t shirt that said Pittsburgh started it on and Sunday. The steelers beat the browns in the rematch. After the game several steelers players said the shirt motivated them. Ramon Foster said quote vote. I know our coach would have never done anything like that. Why throw gas when you do something like that? You throw players in harm's way he's not on the field and quote simple question here. Mace did the t shirt have anything to do with the steelers beating the browns on Sunday. He he no. I don't I don't think so I don't know how widely spread that particular social media post was has. It happened on Saturday night. I don't know how many people could have seen. It was just like somebody at the movies. took the picture with them His daughters they. They said Pretty Ready Kitchen said his daughters wanted him to wear it. I mean I think it's I think it's stupid for coach do it. I think it's Kind of inappropriate given the ugliness of the situation that took place place in the in the previous game but do I think it was motivation. Probably not I agree with you that I don't think had anything to do with the steelers winning the game. I do you however think that it's going to have something to do with Freddie Kitchens being fired I mean. He's he's done a budget doesn't need any help at this right. He's done a bunch of dumb stuff. Why double down on dumb? y'All I do anything it puts you in a position to make it easier to fire you and that certainly does. What other coach would do that now? Players would do it. I I could see Baker Mayfield did it. I could see that right. Can't that too. It's a head coach head coach. It's ridiculous it's ridiculous. I'll check all right furious. Janet Jackson fans stormed out of her concert in Perth Australia last weekend accusing her of lip synching her way through the show. The rhythm nation singer headlined the live concert which also featured the black-eyed peas but it was Janet set which garnered the most criticism awesome with video footage showing groups of concert goers leaving while she was on stage fans described the performance as a disaster with Janet miming along along with our Hurricana kits Why do you think she's lip? synching can she saying could she ever sing is hard to dance and sing at the same time. Why not dance lasting more? What do you think I defer to Michael Thompson has an opinion on this subject? Didn't hurt me. Vanilla did hurt than Elliott. The lewin hurt them. They've not released an album since because they couldn't sing. I think if you charge people money to to come to a concert you can't lip sync you. Can't I mean it's fraud. What about if she's doing those gigantic dance? Rhythm nation. Kind of dance moves that she used to do in the videos. And you're out out of breath and you notify notify. Paid to see her in person. If it's a music video where that's understood yeah Dolly Parton wouldn't lifting no she absolutely would not and and I have no idea why you're referencing. I was saw her vegas. I went to see alive. Oh did you rattle. Local nineteen seventies year. was that like seventy nine. Seventy seventy nine. She was in her prime in her. Prime Bill is yeah. This is my last one game Michael. I'm actually glad you're here has mace. You can use Michael as a resource as I'm sure I'll leave out of there yet. No Bergman Bergman can play funchess can play maze complaint play. Mike played wants to turn off your mic right now. All right now somebody unread. It came up with the list of what the most common last name is in every every country. Okay now the four of you can work together on this. I have a list of ten last names now. If you miss any you're out it's not hard. I think you can get all ten and you guys can talk about it but Mason. I'm going to take your answer. You will be. I will be the chancer man. Yeah I'll give you the name you guys tell me what country the name is the most popular and some of them like for example. This first one there are three countries that this is the most most popular name in. So there's more than once right the number one name of ten Smith. What country is Smith? We have to name all three controls Cantrell one just one. I'm going with Great Britain England. Okay may draper England. I think it's the United States we get to to. UK's awesome wanted to United States. I'd say it's both I will go. The United States You are you were could have been correct either way. You're right anybody you WANNA go. Go and guess what the third one is. The most common name airlines know them. Canada Canada are one for one. Maybe in the only international guy here I should win number two. There are two countries where this is the most common last name Hernandez Hernandez Hernandez Mexican Yeah I'm guessing. Spry Mexico right Michael and then then design Mexico. I'm thinking Puerto Rico. No that's a different. That's our country right. Yeah I'm surprised you didn't know that Michael was not a state pride of geography. It say it's a territory of our ASE. What is Hernandez what country? They're going to go Mexico. You're right Mexico to the other one El Salvador El Salvador. All right number three and there's only one correct answer for this Murphy. Oh Ireland Ireland Ireland. You're thirty three correct. Dancers for this. One Rodriguez Rodriguez. I'M GONNA GO D- Our DR is a good gal that that isn't GonNa Republic housing like Venezuela or one of those Latin countries. Regents definitely a Latin Country Norway Sweden. We didn't let you go in with. We're going to go l'ensemble correct Dan. Let's go with deer stuff the tough Jeff. I'm going to go let's go. Dr Dr is correct republic. Just think Alex Cuba A- and Costa Rica's right. We're all the critics all right so you guys are four number five and there's only one correct answer Garcia Garcia Lou other Latin country. Let's go to South America right okay. Shorts not Israel has Nike Awfully named Garcia. butcha how `bout boxes Venezuelan. There's one that stands above all else occur sears Jimmy Garcia from what about Columbia. Oh I'm going to go Spain I I know Sergio Garcia. I'm Michael Michael Correct. Sergio Garcia. You guys are five for five you get a good five more Rossi to correct answers for this which Rossi for Italy right. Yeah I think I think you're right. Yeah I I think it may Italy ilise correct all right to correct answers for this next one. Some people pronounce it Muller other people pronounce it. Mueller Mu L.. That's gotta be Germany right. Yeah Yeah. Germany Germany's creek with the one is Belgium. Now you're close geographic Muller's Switzerland Switzerland's. Yeah Okay you guys got three more and you win. It is Robert Mueller Ula. No no he he. He does a great report popadopoulos. Oh that's Greece reese Greek. It's great right all right now. This one has one two three four five correct country about Michelle Hausky Messiah correct. Are you ready yes getting solids five okay. I think this is where we go Gonzalez this is where we go like Venezuela Mexico Mexico. We already used already got Mexico. It's Hernandez I think this is where we go Venezuela. Yeah it is that your final answer. Final answer definitely got to be one of Venezuela's correct the other ones Chile Argentina Tina Paraguay and Guatemala already. Do we have left one one. You get this you win it all the time for nine. We've all right. There are two correct answers. But they're gonNA give you the name you're GonNa think could've been many more. The name is Mohammed Mate Oh well gee I mean how. Many thousands of Muslim countries choose from well not India. It's got you gotta go to the Middle East right. The raiders says five countries to to Arabia Cutter Hamad Iran Iraq. Hamad Mohamed Boy Egypt Egypt. EGYPT EGYPT Egypt. Yeah very good Berkman. Yes the other one you guys you guys were dancing around the other one as you never said unless he is one of the Middle Eastern countries right. Yeah so Arabia funchess was the closest cutter. Would you say don't you remember. Saudi Arabia no L. nearby there but you said the other country that many Iran Iran. Yeah what's what's the other one that people can flow around Iraq Iraq and Egypt. Very good it boys you got them all excellent good work all right. There's your Fasttrack for today Michael. You're ready to get this thing going. Well it's all about the. Wow now and the vow you heard about the vowel right Seven heard about the in the bow. Where have you guys been? Anthony Davis after L.. We you won't lose two in a row. Yeah that'd be will not lose two in a row it's a vowel. I like it I like it. All right coming up next for you as Lakers pre game. We're back tomorrow three keyword promotions back doc owning mortgage giving away one hundred dollars in cash. If you have the correct keyword. Today's keyword is slightly Wa really Wa. That's the best week it a new solid S. L. E. W.. Yes I believe that is a a an I l. v. e. r.. Yes sleep. Listen to the morning showing Shona Marquee. Sean we'll give you the cuticle during seven. Am Our if you've got the correct keyword. You went one hundred bucks in cash brought to you by owning mortgage bringing trust in simplicity of real estate and mortgage. All right. Go Lakers Lakers versus the nuggets tonight. Pre Games coming next for you mason. Ireland E._S._p._N. L._A..

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"You're listening to girls one. On One. Coming the exclusive in entertainment. Now If. knocked. moral. Episodes of. Sex. Crime the now we hear on the podcast. White vacation there s before getting on any plane. Berga Jennifer. told. Everyone I'm Jen I'm Allie book up to two girls one podcast. Some of you might know that Ali and I are performers we use the Internet as a script and our live comedy show blogs. We rented a web series called girls one show, which you can find on who ha- in which we interviewed people behind the posts that we're performing all those years that we went unscripted adventures, and now we're podcasting with the daily Dot Bat Silverman. Hello. Hello. Hello and on this show, we were talking to people behind Internet communities and phenomena that we find. Really Fascinating. Today is going to be fun and hopefully we'll. We'll get some sense of vicarious travel maybe through some stories we'll see. What's that? was just traveled. ooh, and you're traveling all the time really but you're doing. SAFE car. Travel. I took an airplane guys, Bros have a fabulous picture on your instagram travel outfit. which was like eligible masks in a one zero. To get back on instagram just to see that. Some podcast listeners commented I see you're wearing Lenzi. Case. Listeners. Also non-sequitur. My mother asked if I shop at Jay's so clearly she doesn't listen to the podcast and doesn't know me at all. That's my favorite stores. Took a plane east to visit family. I self quarantine got to vid tests and I tested negative. Tests how do those go actually experience? Not Okay and not what you should be doing listeners but three hogging all the tests variously there I call a lot of locations in Maryland where they don't have any left. So you should not be hugging tests, but I got a regular one and then my parents really wanted me to go to get a rapid one and then when I got the rapid one, they also gave me the regular ones winds up getting three tests and actually I was negative three times, and then my parents wanted me to get a fourth test and I said, no no. You can't so many Q. Tips up your nose. To nose for every one of those everyone. But only one was the q tip to the brain. Story is real. It's a cute it was. Forever? No. Okay. It's highly uncomfortable like you feel you guys can't see my face like like it's it's It's very. I'm not a doctor I didn't know they needed a brain tissue sample to test. Sunset. Goes back so far. It hits your brain and it's sort of hurt my left to i. Mean I could feel it like in the back. I. Don't mean to complain. Honestly. I know it gets glad but it really getting the tests points to a lot of the reasons that the federal government has failed just in terms of like. Knowing the differences between the rapid and the regular where to get them in how to get them in how long you should wait like there's not like general national guidance I mean, did you know there is still the CDC but it just really kind of. Hit that home but also you know props to my hometown of Baltimore the Cova test was at a beer stand. Beer made made so much sense why be less when you can be more? Now you couldn't purchase a beer, but literally they stood behind the cash registers. There's all these signs Barrett's like an outside league beer stand. Beer like not not like it's like a pavilion, but it's like not enclosed. You know what I mean it's good. Beer stand. That's what's happening with me, jen how did the move? Oh We. Traveled in our own way with a moving truck ed I actually just stayed in the same place the whole time, which was my apartment. Adamant you're living together and. We're in my apartment. It is kind of weird because we're just in a holding pattern right now until we get a place of our own and a few months and you know, I keep finding myself like adjusting all the pictures like making sure they're all straight I'm like John just chill out. Pictures off the wall soon does not matter does not matter. So anyways. Two bedroom when you move in together, that is the plan so we can have a crafting room to do. Shit Act. visit the crafting. I will hang up all of the golden girls embroidery that I do thanks to Ali sending a gift earlier in. Quarantine activity tippety quarantine, tiffany craft ruin slash podcast room I hope well, yes it's really a multipurpose room, but it will primarily be yet. That's cool. You going to put those maps that they have it all taken multipurpose rooms. Romper Room. Gymnasium. I got excited all over again. somersaults. Yes. So where is Adam as we speak? Is He listening? He's where he's actually he's going into his office. At a distance, this has been a awhile. I have this. To. Do. because. That's the new recent that. Box. Chubut. So. Anyway, I'm a solo female today at home podcasting. Me I'm always female. You're surrounded by family right now I know. Today we're speaking to the founder of something called the Solo female traveller network. which is a home at home and community for women. To, learn important travel skills in their own words find support in times of triumph and trouble. which you know it sounds like it's good for these times and connect with a network of peers. So I will be very interested to hear with. This is all about I've done my fair share of Solo. Female travel but not a ton of international travel on my own and for some reason, that's what I'm thinking of what I'm thinking of this network but we shall see I think it's both looks like there's a lot of international but I sell Yosemite on their list I. Think it's anything really okay. But See. Yeah. So excited to dive into this network. Remember the time that we used to travel indeed men have you done any solo female travel I am neither female nor never been Solo. Answer to that I'm I'm here to learn. A Lot. Okay. My first question is where have you both been? I get the solo traveling like I I see the value in it. I've never really done it but what do you enjoy about what you when you're out and about in a new place alone? What are you doing? Looking around Sam the saints. I-. It's just like sometimes it's a lot of coordinating with other people versus just like getting up and going you know. Yeah I think there's a ton of my experience confidence to be gained from like being able to figure out a trip on your own. And then like just getting through the experience because obviously especially go abroad and you're not familiar with the culture like every single day you have to like it's like figuring out a puzzle of like, how do I get food? How do I communicate this to someone and? Gadget when I come back from those trips I, really feel like I could conquer anything. So but there's a lot of things that happen. To. Women that men don't even know about or see because why would they like when I was living in Egypt many many moons ago as part of a program but I went there alone. So I did a lot of stuff alone. But also like had this program but the men didn't understand how the women the white women were like followed on the street because like if I was with a dude nobody did that like It was kind of crazy and so they tell you know like where and engagement ring. The first phrases I learned were like undergo as which is like a Mary. Won't. Bother you. It's kind of crazy. There's one time in Colombia where like the police came and like I like went into this like crazy market, the police escorted me out. They were like women can't be her alone I was like. Okay. Columbia Yeah Well Terrified of being sex trafficked like that's I mean. Aired. Really low yeah. You might desk we should all be concerned about but. Just. Recently, I had seen a post recently on instagram where it was like this woman standing in front of a rainbow and she's smiling she must be some sort of influence are and to be honest I forget who it was but. She was like you know I may look happy in this picture, but she told a story about how she was at a gas station. Recently in the US had to use the restroom. There was a lion at there girl in front of her on her phone video and a guy was on the video and she could the was speaking Spanish I guess and this woman was speaking English but anyway, the girl is speaking. To this guy on the phone Spanish and she understood that they were saying like, do you like car? How does she look to you and like the woman holding so they could see the girl behind them and she said she liked bolted to car anyway I don't know if it's not. It's just something I read it. But then like I was just at a bunch of gas stations yesterday Adam and I were traveling. Standing, they should ask her to have a threesome. Maybe. A. Got Into my brain we were to gas station yesterday like New Jersey, and like there was a guy and a girl in a car and I was like, are they scoping me out? I should rise off I'm probably too old to be sex traffic. We probably are, but it is. It is not safe for women to go into a gas station in New Jersey alone. That's not. To say that doesn't they pumped your gas for you. assholes in it it's not adding up anyway I think about that sort of thing. I'm sure a lot of women do. To really make sure that things are really like peppy for this episode. Real break from quarantine. We're GONNA talk about sex trafficking. He's doing so well, we should do a spin off sex trafficking podcast only talk about that. Yeah. Yeah, I think honestly. Unleaded twenty twenty. Upper. Debating whether to say that out loud and then I did a few summers ago I went to La for like six weeks or something and Ali. Moved out there I forget but I went on a bunch of hikes by myself I remember and I don't know Alec hike by yourself pleat agent. Was I I question. You know I was staying pretty far away from you and like all I had to do is like take I, exhibit know anyone. But when I think back on that, now I'm like man I was like miles out in the woods you'd see people on the trail but I also remember seeing like I don't know just like men who? Are alone too. So yeah I don't I don't know what you do in that situation. Anyhow we're about to we're about to find out about let's keep it. Happy. Let's do some ready at first. We have trivia this one's a good one today's Trivia. is about one of the most bad ass solo female travelers of all time speaking of course about Amelia earhart. Of course, an aviation pioneer and the first woman to complete a solo flight across the Atlantic Ocean in nineteen thirty two despite many people telling her she couldn't or she shouldn't. Sadly of course, during an attempt to circumnavigate the globe in Nineteen thirty seven, her plane disappeared somewhere over the central Pacific Ocean and she was never found but in addition to being a brilliant after she also led a really interesting life. Read about Amelia earhart whenever you get the chance, I have three facts about Amelia earhart, which of these very interesting tidbits is true. Are you prepared. Guess. A. Before she married her husband, she insisted on a prenuptial agreement that guaranteed both parties the right. To be unfaithful to each other. To that in writing. After her transatlantic flight, Erhard started her own fashion line using aviation materials like parachute silk and textiles from airplane wings. See. Erhardt was good buddies with the first lady of the United States Eleanor Roosevelt. And they once snuck out of a White House Dinner Party. To take joy ride in a plane to Ali's hometown of Baltimore just for Shits and giggles. Think it see I think it's a but I'm going to go with see because I want to take. More. There's a D. which usually go for the. D All of these statements are true. E none of these are true. I made them all up. You. Know what I'm going to go with. Goes for the. Reminding me my only. D of Quarantine. Go guys knew that show was coming. Next depressed. I guess we'll just take the complete opposite at say that none of them are true and embellished. I imagine like elements of some of these are troop but. I'll say none. Just. Lozano's true but it changes what detail. No No. No I'M GONNA. Be Absolutely Fair. If none of these are these are all wacky crazy things and Amelia earhart just lived alone in isolation and did nothing for twenty years then flew Cressey alantic that would be the alternative to this. None of genuine with. All right. We will find out the correct answer after this important commercial break. We just wanted to extend a hearty. Thank you to the following people who are quite a trip. Jerry Duran. Jessica Fox Melissa Eliot James. Dozier Christopher. Latch. Kathy Phillips. William. And Matthew Scott. Thank you so much these fine folks have supported us at the ten dollars or more level, and so can you imagine these find voices will also say your name Patriotic Dot com slash two g one P support for this podcast comes from Microsoft teams. Now, there are more ways to be a team with. 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Well, my sartorial choices have definitely suffered since starting this whole quarantine thing. So why? Well, you know. Well, when I was away, I only have like ten pieces of clothing. So I got used to wearing like workout clothes when it got hot out and that sort of thing whereas like I used to Adam, was like always on my case about never like wearing dresses. But like I, really like hyper casual for like four months and Saddam trying to like worse some dresses now back in New York I'm more options what I'm going to wear but haven't gotten it properly dressed months. You're onesies put together. That's a great thing about. The. The thing about my look. If I don't tame the Frizz, I look insane that's it's just all about the Frizz like if you're wearing a onesie in your hair's frizzy and I'm talking here John he can give fucking crazy. They're like the friends by frigates like hair's just literally five inches of standing up. You look. Back. But. If you if you do your hair than it's like a look. Ha do you need to shower and condition in order for that to be achieved or can you just? Do a brush every couple days I want so badly to make fun of that right now but I'm not. Okay well, I. So dry shampoo is changed my life Oh. Okay. There's an amazing sketch show called Baroness von sketch that was huge in Canada Nike ended an AFC and it's like four women in their forty s or something or older, and a fucking love them because you it's such a feminist show like you're. So an unusual to see this many women on screen you don't think about it. But then when you watch this, you're like, Whoa, this look so different because it'll be like one male extra like everyone else female, but it doesn't amazing sketch about dry shampoo were like her license falling apart and she liked turns into a bear, but she has dressing up. A. Sorry. Jen. You mentioned you said a word at the beginning of this segment sartorial. I didn't go to Yale so I don't know what that means you're. Looking at. Smashing Yep that's what it is. All right. WHO's ready for the Trivia answer already for that day. Amelia EARHART the most bad ass solo female traveler at least from this country is she was pretty cool inside from that airplane stuff. What did she do with her life She had prenup where she could cheat on her husband and her he with her that was part of their marriage contract be. she started a fashion line full of airplane stuff. See she skipped out on the White House with Eleanor Roosevelt and they flew to Baltimore just to have a good old time. But D. all of these are true. That was alleys choice she went for the D. and Jen said none of these true. I made all of this crap. Are you ready. Sorry. CRANK ANSWER IS D. It's all true. All mazing. Thank you. For allowing me that day when you wrote it, where you like GonNa make the real one, the defer alley. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Also I, love the she's a bad ass bitch, and all of those things were true. About that. Way. Tell not enough that you're like like this truly pioneer aviator like just all this other cool stuff on the side out with the first lady just just kind of like. Bailing on the on the White House dinner when like. Hot Plane Eleanor Roosevelt get. Outta here Lookin' rules. Eleanor is a great catch phase. Thanks, bye-bye shop and my plane ellinora. So, what tells like what is like the pre-nup? That's crazy. Yeah. Apparently Sh- her her fiance propose to her like six times and she was not really feeling it and then eventually was like, okay if we put this in writing. we can get married and he eventually agreed and there were other things in pre pre-nup that there's a whole article about this but Yeah, she was very particular about the idea that like I can't be I can't be one person like I'm going to be needing to be with other people to, and you have to be okay with that was was part of her and this is one, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty. S Wild Great I've been listening to a lot of Dan Savage in quarantine and I'm behind it. Great and then what else? So it was like pals with eleanor what how did this happen? Yeah, I guess. So I don't know I didn't do enough reading to find out how they met but I you know be she became a public figure when she made the transatlantic flight. So I assume she was honored by various heads of state and she just got became buddies with Eleanor, Roosevelt with who was also like very progressive feminist kind of person who was did not take shit. I don't think from from a lot of people. So they bonded over that kind of stuff and became buddies as sounds sounds like fun. What about us? I just go to. She looks really cool. Her hair's all short-leg chopping. Melia wormhole ones which I think is why I kind of knew that it was de big worm hole conspiracy theories did she live? Did she die? Some people are like she didn't she didn't she ended up. You can see here in this extremely blurry photo and Japan. That would be it would be so cool. If she like was out there somewhere you know but maybe she trying to escape that husband. Yeah. Sounds like. The. Free that she needed to. SCAPING point yeah. Ha. All. Right folks it is time for our interview. Please welcome to the show the founder of the Solo. Female. Traveller. Network Amanda Block Welcome Amanda. Thanks. Great to be here. We were reading the network began in two, thousand, sixteen as. Young that's when the facebook group started Oh. Okay. Cool. We it started from a hostile couch and Mexico where all good stories start. So Kid. Yeah. So I was traveling for quite a while and I had gotten to Mexico and it was sort of my travel break and I books this room at a hostile and they it was a bit of a scam. Actually I think because when I got there, they said they were booked. So they put me in this hotel room about ten minute walk away and it was a massive upgrade than a hostile room but my room was broken into in everything was stolen. So not an upgrade not quite. I found myself in Mexico I just got an air didn't really know anybody and I had you know they took my computer they took dive gear all of my everything everything except my dirty clothes. So is it weird that I gasped the most at the dive gear? It's not weird at all. It was brand new and it was really pretty expensive is somewhat scuba gear. Yeah. Very expensive. But I found myself like feeling really vulnerable and didn't know what to do and I just sort of like promise myself that no other women should ever have to feel this way because I knew there were people around me who would be willing to help me out but like I couldn't connect with them. So that's when I started the facebook group maybe this would be obvious. For Women or maybe not but we also have a lot of listeners who are men. So we were curious to know up top just sort of what are the things the main things that are different about traveling as a solo woman versus as a man that's a great question. I think they start even from before you leave like when a man says I'm going to go travel or. Backpack by myself people probably don't say too much. But when a woman says it, there's guaranteed she gets questions like, oh my gosh aren't you afraid or is that safe? The perception of it is much more dangerous for women than it is for men but then you know there are some concerns that are a little different like if you're going to certain countries you do have to. Adapt to the culture, and that culture might mean that you have to dress more modestly or the perception of a of a foreign woman walking alone is different than might be at home. So you just have to be aware of those things a lot more than than men do. So before we move on from this topic, we'd love to hear some of the main concerns for women traveling. Alone. But also something we found really interesting as we noticed on your blog, there was a post about concerns for the deaf community and I. Hadn't thought about that because I'm an asshole and I was just wondering if they're you know different major concerns that people don't think of for the various groups and subgroups Ya-ya think that there are so many subgroups of travel solo female travel is one. All. On its own but then you have solo female travel for like your example. For Women even before that, though the concerns that women have whether they have a disability whether they're a woman of color whether there. Even. I don't like fat girls is what I'm trying to say like, yeah, it's it's a whole. It's a whole subset like it's a whole like Nisha travel all of them have their different concerns and their different considerations But for women who travel solo specifically for all of us, one of the biggest issues that everyone is thinking about whether they talk about it or not is the is gender based violence. It's something that obviously happens in every. All over the world our perception of that violence is different depending on where we're from and where we plan on going. That's something that we're always thinking about before we go and being warned about repeatedly. But ultimately, it's just about confidence confidence and being prepared and believing in yourself and having our it makes a. Big Difference when not only you have people to connect to when you're abroad. But also that you that you feel you have that community at your back while speaking of community, we want to hear about the site. So how did you spread the word? How did this grow from a facebook group to really full blown? Network online and in person yeah. So when I started, it just invited my friends, my friends who I met while traveling and encourage them to invite their solo female travel friends and that's honestly what it intended to be was just a little community of people I knew and people they knew, and we would just be there to support each other on the road. Share stories have someone to kind of like share your day or even vent about something that happened without all the judgment from your non traveling friends back home for your family who's telling you all the time to to just come home. There is obviously a need because once the group sort of got going other people joined and it just kind of blew up. When we were at sixty, five, thousand members and I thought. Wow. Okay. This is like taken off somewhere. Maybe. I can make this into something where we can provide even more support community to women around the world, and then it just sort of snowballed from there. How quickly is it a gratis? Sixty, five, thousand I guess they took about a year and a half without any kind of without trying at all without it's amazing sharing it just existing yeah yeah. And how big is it? Now we're at about a four hundred, nineteen thousand. Well Okay Great. Great. I loved it snowballed like that. So how many different countries are represented in the membership? Do you know all over the world? There's there are women from literally all over the globe. It's it's one of the coolest parts about it in facebook groups as we all know when they get bigger and bigger sometimes there are a few more trolls a lot more. Noise which we manage as best we can with our group of amazing moderators. But the coolest thing about being the size that we are is that we have women from everywhere with lots of different perspectives and stories and answers to questions that you would never even think of that's one of my favorite parts about it. I was curious about the meet up tours. Assuming those aren't happening now, but would love to know where have you all done in the past? So they are happening now actually we're really do we SORTA OF, yeah we're we've canceled all of the international trips of course, like the longer are normal trips or canceled but we've started something called many neat up tours and they're like three to four day long camping trips and around the around the United States and they're around the United States only. Because that's where I am right now, and so it's easier for me to make sure that they're very cova careful with our normal meet up Torres. We've gone to a lot of awesome places the the very first one was in Bali and it still one of our favorites we've gone since to Egypt is is probably our most popular along with Morocco, we have South Africa, and Kenya. India we've been to Jordan we're going to Antarctica really oh my gosh. How much is the Antarctica trip girl? It's not cheap. To get there. I are you guys having like a private boat? So we're not doing the private boat because we need to make sure that it's GonNa. It's GonNa go before we rent out in entire hundred person boat. So we what we've done is we've we've taken a little bit of like a backpacker Antarctica approach if that's even a thing where we found. A boat that we really really like and we've chosen dates that are we've gotten really early we have some good connections and we've chosen dates there. That are a little bit cheaper we have we've saved about thirty spots on that boat she gonNa take over an existing boat. That's the goal that would that would fantastic what's the price and what is it? Do the next one is in February two, thousand and twenty one fingers crossed. You're not only going to the coldest most desolate place. Earth. But you're going in. fucking. February. Lower price because nobody wants to go in February. No actually February is one of the best time to go because you're kind of in the middle of seasons and you get like you get man. I should probably research this before I say it but it's like there's still plenty of snow and it's still white whereas the end of the season it's all dirty and not. So photogenic back and there's penguins and you still get the seals and the whales. It's like the perfect middle time to go toward sort of towards the end of the season but not yet. My cousins went and said, it was like shockingly incredible how the landscape is. I don't cold Bud that one sounds pretty interesting and comfort free. I'm just curious. What are some of the things you're doing? Much cost I'm just getting. We can look. What are some of the things you're doing on the domestic trips right now like during covert is it are they hiking related if you're in a national park or are they adventure baster like what are some of the activities that are taking place? Yes. So so for example, we have the Yosemite trip coming up in about a month and that's the very first Cova. Careful mini meet up tour in that one, it's it's camping and. We've tried to include a combination of like there's plenty of hiking an- plenty of adventure but we also recognize that not everyone loves the kind of outdoorsy rugged experienced. So we've also included a wine tasting, the Han. Yon We've picked a campground that that has plenty of showers. So we're trying to keep it really covert careful and beautiful, but kind of cater to. Give Free Time and let people do what they with their actually interested in. So have you been together stone I haven't been there yet? No. Okay. I was going to see if you have any tips, I've a trip to yellowstone in a bit coming up. With I also, I just want to say I like wine anti liking I like doing it all at the same time. So. Solo drunken hiking. What about the workshops? What are those all about? Yes. So we have obviously our free facebook community, but we also have a paid version of our of our community. It's our membership, and in there that's where you find the workshops and sort of like a more engaged. More moderated closer-knit version of our facebook group and the workshops are pretty. Rad We bring in women who really believe in our mission and believe in community and have something cool to teach us. So for example, we've had brea Larson the Olympic gold medalist come and talk to us about goal setting we've had. Her. Just ask. Yeah and you can see on our website like a a list of some of our other of our other speakers. We also have a winemaker female winemaker in Napa at Alexei wines who is just like really fun. makes amazing wine and is really living that like entrepreneur were inspirational life. So we've had her common to a wine tasting us in. Yeah. Lots of really amazing accomplished women. We'd be happy to come on a teacher workshop. Teach them anything they want to know. Recording this this is just a sales pitch Donald. So it looks from your website like there's a tattoo for Solo female travel and I have to say, it looks very bad ass and I kind of want to do more solo female travel just to be able to substantiate getting that tattoo. Can you tell us about it? Sure. Well first of all, I really really encourage you to do more solo travel and to get that Tattoo. Cool. It's our logo. Of course it's also just sort of our community symbol means like a triangle with a horizontal line through it isn't ancient symbol for both women and for earth, and then we added the compass for travel. Obviously, we turn the line into an Arrow to represent a journey moving forward I love how meaningful that symbol is I feel like auden logos and staffer like well, we like these designs and colors and. There's a be in there so we put that into. That's cool banks. Do you have any thoughts about what to do I'm sure you talk about this in the network in different people have different responses to this. But what to do if you get into an undesirable situation while you're traveling Solo I'm sure it depends on the situation to yeah I think it really depends on what the situation is the one of the most common ones that I see. Posted about in in our community is revolving around accommodation like if you get to an Airbnb or the host creeps you out if your room is broken into those kinds of situations or probably one of the more common scenarios, my first advice always no matter what's going on to listen to your gut if you feel like something is wrong, something's wrong I would start there and I would also recommend obviously connecting with a community where you can tell them what you're feeling. Ask them their advice based on the situation. actually, we have a really cool story from the group where a woman was. She had been traveling. She met a guy in her solo travels fell in love and started traveling with him. It was a new relationship and had just gotten to Turkey and which I believe is where he was from and she was with him at I don't know if it was his house or a accommodation whatever. But he got abusive and she locked herself in the bathroom she was very young and I don't know that anyway choose she didn't know what to do. So she locked herself in the bathroom and she had a phone thankfully and she tried calling the police they. Either weren't responsive didn't speak. English is a nightmare. Yeah or just never showed up in meanwhile. Updating us in the facebook group saying that he's like banging on the door and she doesn't know she's terrified was horrible eventually apparently he sort of off and stopped banging on the door and stopped trying to talk to her so she. Anyway she actually posting this in the facebook group we had hundreds of comments on her post giving her of course, lots of encouragement but even more importantly, we had locals who are living in the area calling the police on her behalf I, mean the police must have gotten so many calls. From like women from around the world, actually it was in particular the help of a local woman who spoke the language in new where she was who I think she she had a lot to do with the cops actually showing up and then this girl getting the heck out of there. So. That's one high favorite stories about the power of community in those bad situations I think it's really important that is incredible and Dardel. Yeah I mean, it happens you're on instagram you see all the wake flowing dresses in fields of lavender and all this beautiful stuff but that's only one side of travel this this happens cause it feels to me in some ways like this. You know antidote to the old boys club where there's girls club better watch out and they're looking out for each other in that. Another story you shared with us that had love to hear our love our listeners to hear. A similar story about a girl who was alone and sprained her ankle. Yeah. So. Story. An equally good. She's a a member of our community who I know because she came on our meet up tour our last one before Kobe in February. Land wanted to have it was a very good trip. Yeah. It was a good one that's where you go in February. and. That's how I know her personally is because I was on that trip, and so she I'm but I saw on her on her personal facebook account that she was posting a lot about how she broke her ankle when she was. When she was hiking solo with her dog and she she broke it and she hobbled her way out of there somehow, and now she lives she lives on her own and she can't work right now she's an intensive care nurse for Kobe patients actually and She's just sort of like needing help with the boring stuff like laundry and groceries in and all that. So I posted for her because sometimes we have a hard time asking for help so I asked for help. And we got a beautiful response. So many words of encouragement and locals. One girl even lived just a couple blocks away from her and they wouldn't have known. So she got she got lots of support from that and hopefully she gets better soon. Yeah. I love that that's how the community what it's become a do you have other stories like that? I have so many so many I'm trying to think of some that aren't so dark those are the ones I tend to remember. But those are the ones where you're really a need and the community comes together. So I think there's also kind of a lovely reason that third dark and I think a lot of the perils of Solo female travel are these circumstances of being overpowered or something like that and what do you do so? Dark but I think they're great and really exemplify why this network is needed. Yeah and what the Internet is four in a way like I didn't know that I lived one block away from someone who D- Who needed help there's no way we could know each other but now through a community I can help. That's amazing. That's what this is. Perfect that's exactly why I started it. Sued mentioned the flowing fields of lavender on social media. I was how you think social media and I'm just thinking instagram specifically but I that is where I mostly live on social media. So maybe you know I'm biased there but how how do you think it's like helping or hurting travel experiences and like how portrayed how people are like approaching their trips and thinking about like posting it to social I don't know if you have any thoughts about that. Yeah. I think that instagram in particular is is really powerful in encouraging women to actually get out there. It's. It's a really great tool when you want feel inspired when you wanNA feel like you're not alone you can see. People who are just like you going out there and doing exactly what you dream of it make you feel empowered do it I think also it can help you learn about places that are a little bit more off the beaten path places that maybe aren't guidebooks and Yon. Like. Improve your travel experiences by just like discovering new places but we sat comes some downfalls as well. I think instagram We have an article about this on our website. Actually instagram also can really hurt your travel experiences can over popularize different places around the world and if you see a photo of Of Somebody in this beautiful place where somehow it's empty and. Full of color, and then you get there and it's full of people and trash and pollution. The expectation versus reality can be an a lot of Hughes's really really polar opposites I do wonder too about people's experience of a place. If they're trying to post about it is everything you were saying about wanting it to look so perfect versus just being able to experience the place. You're stopping a lot of photos or whatever it is. So I don't know where we all fall raided that sometimes we wanted to ask kind of. I don't know what it what you think about this but we also sort of have like a little game. We wanted to know what are some of the best ways to take corona -cation basically like. We WanNa go away like I guess first of all, like what are some of your ideas and then we wanted to come up with some ideas with you. Sure. So do you need taking vacation literally from your couch or going out into the world and just being safe? Question Ali. What do you think? I WANNA know if I'm on a river in an inner tube does that count as a coronation I think it does okay who's in there with you? WHO's in the tube with you if I in a Hammock Zada rotation I think so I think you can have occasion from your bed if you feel like you're on vacation. What about if I moved from my bed to my couch? Is that a cormack acacia because it's like? If Wanted to be what about if I move from my house to outside and climate trees that occur on occasion sounds like it's to me. It sounds like to me brand into rebrand cove cove vacation. There's a V. in their thinking. Sounds it's like a vacation with multiple people. We'll be together through one. Okay thank you for I. I appreciate you being on top of it for sure for sure What about if you go into a tree and there's a family of chipmunks and Jennifer has named them all Eric. Is that a crime you stay six feet away. Ex. Yeah about that was that was a story that happened. Yeah. What about if at separate picnic tables, their own shipment picnic tables that are all on different branches of the tree is at sure. Cool. And something I mean it just sounds like anything could be it could be rebranded occur on occasion. But actually. What are your tips for travelling during this time for real? I would say. Definitely follow all the normal precautions they wear mask. Don't be a jerk about it. Wear a mask stay six feet away from people even when it's hard like if sometimes the national parks, not all of them have like restrictions parks in general all have restrictions on how many people can are allowed in and smooth can get pretty crowded and campgrounds same thing but like stay six. Feet away and talk to people and you know that's part of the fun of travel is meeting New People but like to be smart about it, you can still go out and have fun and experience things especially nature these days but follow the guidelines masks six feet away wash your hands don't be dirty it's just too bad because I personally enjoy being dirty and now I Ask. Time Line I'm at burning man right now and I. Ask. Paris starting to dread. It's incredible. With burning man, it won't be rescheduled. Where's this? Virtual chasing is the antithesis on an associate and I'm not gonNA. Watch. Because it's just GonNa make virtual burning man is not occur on occasion. But We should book now for. Twenty. Twenty. Two. Flights are on sale. You know what? I'm saying no I think you should. I think that you should book even for two thousand, twenty, one I think that travel will open and if it doesn't even you've put your money in and it'll just move you can bump it to your next flight but Yeah I think I would I have I would I would definitely book for two thousand and twenty two and I think I just WANNA put my plug in here that everyone should really try to support local tour operators like the tourism industry travel industry in general is just Decimated. By every day that's going on and the small guys, the ones that offer you like really amazing local experiences and personal experiences they're going under really fast. So making your plans with them and letting them if they have to cancel a trip letting them hold your deposit with not arguing for refunds would be very kind thing to do to help the small guys in the travel space bit of a tangent but. Interview. Another issue is how soon do you think other countries will start letting in Americans? I. Think that's a great question. It's a difficult question to answer because it's not really just about like when countries will let us in because there are some awesome countries now who are letting us in it's really about like when it says safe responsible, good time to travel and everybody has different opinions on it. Some of them very, very passionate opinions I think that in two, thousand, twenty one, there will be countries that will be very worthwhile to travel to that will be open, and if you feel comfortable going than you could go it's hard. It's really hard because in our group like people are trolling really hard and really angry and passionate about like. Staying home and stuff and I agree with it but after a year of lockdown I mean. I don't know how much like people are going to be able to take but we got what do you mean by that kind of trolling we've seen a lot in our facebook group is very passionate members talking. Some people have termed as travel shaming these days people who are. Some of them are acting like Kobe doesn't exist some of them are just taking a road trip to the state next to them. It really varies but there's a lot of passionate and sometimes angry commentary about judgment about people travelling these days and it's something that has been plaguing a lot of travel groups lately, and I think it just stems from. The fear of the uncertainty and the the wishing that this would just end already. But sometimes, it does turn turn kind of nasty totally. It's really as really hard and complicated because. Just speaking from personal experience it not with regard to travel. But when we observe other people making decisions that we view as like, Hey, this is going to like be bad for our community and be bad for the for the world in the country than it's hard. It's very hard for us like we don't get on facebook can yell but we judge them and we feel upset by it because it's like. It's not about you do. It's about if you do you, it's going to affect me somewhere. Because it's the virus. So that's really complicated and hard and I personally struggle with it and I it sounds like it's playing out in in the group. Yeah I think it's especially difficult as an American because we're in this country without like Matt like the same regulations for everybody and so you see other people even people you know living a normal life and you're sitting in your six month of lockdown. That's me anyway and it's very frustrating. So. Like how long like if half the country is like living their best life and your at home at Your Dad's house. Side politically speaking. It's really. Feels it. feels. Unfair, bike. And difficult to continually do the right thing countries fucking shit show. Truly people like I'll go outside and it's like businesses to open them like we all do absolutely could. Read this piece of cloth also. You're also not allowed to wear a seatbelt and see what happens. The same exact thing too little uncomfortable but you do it because it'll. It'll maybe save a life. Yeah this one's different because it's like it's not just otherwise yet you do. But in this case you doing, you also does me and I didn't consent. Mid I have a quick question for you. What you what you mentioned earlier at the top of the interview about how if a woman is gearing up travel solo there's instantly like a you know. Conversation of like Oh. Are you going to be okay are GONNA be safe and that struck me a lot So my question for you is like. If we all agree here objectively that women do face specific challenges when they travel solo and that there are precautions in you know communities that they should be part of how should a family member or like an ally. Express that concern without being condescending or without creating the the worry that you were describing at the beginning of the conversation. That's a really sweet question. I think that family members and friends they just WanNa to know that you've thought it out like they WanNa know that you have a plan. It's their way of kind of warning you that the that. Bad, stuff is a possibility and so maybe just asking questions about what their plans are and having a conversation with them about things instead of even though it's not always on purpose but being accusatory and being putting an fearmongering, they're gonNA go anyway. So we just have a conversation and be like, let the let the love that you feel for them. show instead of the instead of the fear enough discouragement. Well, as we wrap up today, we were curious to know what you have learned about community and women supporting women and being inclusive of women through this network that you've created people in general and especially women they just want to belong. To something like we just want to feel like willing we belong and that we have people we can count on in particular. We Solo female travelers we travel by ourselves. We usually prefer it that way. We still don't want to feel alone and the best way to connect when you are physically geographically by yourself is is an online community and it's amazing what you don't know about a person until you actually talk to them and it's amazing. The different perspectives of women in different countries with different with different backgrounds and just listening and asking questions can unlock so much I. Think I've learned that a million times over since since starting this community. Awesome. Way To were allowed to do more things. It's GONNA be Great. Well, thank you so much for taking the time to be here with us today. It's been awesome speaking with you young for sure. It was fine. I definitely had trips that were coming up that had to be canceled. It was supposed to go to fucking Asia you supposed to go to Asia to spray go to Singapore. Vietnam. An island off the coast of Malaysia and it was going to be so coup. Oh my gosh. So what are you rescheduling or just? Right. Twenty twenty it's going to be at the affiliates can be twenty, twenty two. It's actually like comical what a shit show this year is you know what I mean every time you're like, could it get worse? It does. I'm scared as fuck for November. I know well, maybe we'll go on a permanent vacation if trump wins. Just leave America. Not Kidding. You thought about this I've. Gone. Abroad Oh yeah it was really supportive. He was like we'll figure out time zones. which I loved. Setting the permanent vacation aside What's your risk tolerance meaning? It covert is not we are not vaccinated and through it, we are not done with it, but it's Kinda more like we all are we all wear masks twenty, one, twenty, twenty, two, we all wear masks now because we just have to and that's part of our normal life until the true vaccine comes through. So getting on a plane is you know there's always some risk, but we're okay it's lower than a one percent or whatever in everyone's being safe like is that? Are you are you personally able to get to? Singapore at that point or or not? Not so much I don't know I don't know and I think perhaps they also you have to self quarantine there for two weeks and then you'd trip. Wishing gets along. Could you could just be legendary my laptop and work from Vietnam for two weeks but like Most people can out there that amount of extra time listen three days along with myself as too much. Some complex thirty six moving in with roommates. I spent the last week alone and I was like, thank, fucking. God, I live with roommates. Also, my roommates turn out our fucking awesome well of them was going to be awesome but they're both we had that are having. We're having so much fun than I left but. Maybe, other people were aware of this I was not but I've a friend who's from Hong Kong and she's like debating if she should go to see her family at some point. So does it get to be too long but I forgot exact term for it but there are special hotels in Hong Kong at least I don't know if they're other places but she said like you're required to stay at that hotel when you got there. I've heard that too. Yeah. That's really good and smart. That's the government's. You this is where you go and this is how beat it. So backwards. It's it is really unbelievable. Yeah. Yes, the way the way other countries are handling. America's fucking individualism has gone way too far, and you know I don't know what no one would agree to contact tracing or being like using location services to track where people are you know so like Big. Brother, which I mean, it is a little bit but also it's like a fucking. That's how that's how they have an under control and other countries you know. So and we have all kinds of rules that are only for national emergencies. So I don't see why that couldn't be something that is only. When a state of emergency is declared US right. If an earthquake happened, we enact rules to to people's lives that had to like infringe on people's ability, but the other thing that. Goes without saying we let facebook and Google, and apple and Microsoft. What track every fucking thing we do for advertising and commerce. Lives Fuck. No, yeah. That's really you let you let running APPS. Your exact route. Yes. So yeah nuts fucking bananas I listen to another podcast I know I. To me about the NBA bubble and I was like man, we get the NBA to like tell us what to do as a country except that it's so expensive what it's like a really and they were kind of making a joke like this could only happen. It's at Disneyworld like this could only happen in the magic kingdom because it's like a fantastic. But they actually do. Well, they just it's so off the wall like some of the stuff they've implemented. But for example, they have sensors they wear around their wrists that like buzz if you're within six feet of somebody else. Oh. Really Cool Yeah Yeah. I love. But his link insane about cove and we're not six feet. It's like Jesus Christ girl were. Released but that's a really good device. Special, APPs to track their health and on all of that every morning that they have to report to anybody who's their media included so I. Think it's Great. I mean, maybe that is much eating an insane and wonderful and absolutely what we should all be doing. If we can I mean, it seems massively expensive as a lot of money to be made. If the NBA gets back online, there's no money to be made in saving regular people and poor people. So regular people don't stand for it. You know what I mean. That's part of the problem is that Of course be fucking crazy about it. Well, this podcast has been real upper today. Would be like a nice escape. And it was re it's so great to hear about women using this network shelby out into your pricing. Can I take it real quick. Take it. You gotta get hanging, wrap it up from here. Uplifting Jennifer learns about a supporting other women. Anyway if you've traveled Solo tweet, US I'm at Ali Goal Jen's on the field on. Sugar. Talk Shit about Jen she can't she took her headphones. And we're saying she's so organized Tall. Delicious Oh, my God she also has great taste in men. Always not always I I told her I think I've said it on the podcast he'll because it weird how excited I am for you guys to move in together. Let's hear the dirt. What's what was going on? What's what's what was going on before atom like? Problem centers the know that to the one guy who broke up with her while we were added benefit that we were hosting. Yeah and then there was another guy who just like did something really shitty and then like blamed her and told her it was her fault now is like, no, it's fucking not. No it's not now I want to stab him in the eyes but have to remain simple because you're still dating I mean he was good in some ways yet. Unemployment we're talking about you, you were you'll have. To for so. It'll be an 'cause. Fast forward I love making bad songs clients my favorite. So every time an unknown number calls have to pick it up and those are. Someone trying to broker. Yeah. They're like, do you know this units available in your building Oh my God about? Anyway. Two bedroom in your building that be weird. Yeah moving up moving out you know chain suffrage-age exactly. 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Ep 157: Britney & Justin, Too Hot to Handle, Kourtneys 41st & More ft. Morgan Stewart

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Ep 157: Britney & Justin, Too Hot to Handle, Kourtneys 41st & More ft. Morgan Stewart

"So this episode was a little bit different. We had Morgan Stewart from Jelly. Pop nightly necessary honest. Join US for about a half an hour. We only had a little bit of time with her so we wanted to get through some of the big stories. And then Julian. I did the rest of the stories award ceremony and crashing recap by ourselves. But she was so much wishy not the best time best time so. I always like this one. Hi Guys I'm Emma Julie and we're the girls behind comments by celebs and we are very excited today. We have a special guest joining us. She is hosted ease nightly Papa Daily Park unnecessary ruinous. Morgan Stewart is all the pop threat. I love when people like list them off. They're like daily pop night. I'm the network at all fucking times will be lot lot of. I did not want nightly pop to be called nightly pop but I got vetoed out of that decision so but were I think it works flows. Well you know why I have to agree. It really does it. I was very adamant that was. It has to be different from the day but you know what it is and it just it has worked so I guess I'm not always right but cut that part out so nightly pop is back right. Tell us tell us now process in your own house nightly pop the first child that I've given birth to literally because obviously we piloted nightly pop. We've been on the air for over a year and then obviously the corn to happen so we went dark for literally a week in that. We were doing instagram lives. And now we're back on the air but the process to get it back on the air. I mean the amount of equipment. The amount of skype test stream yard tests. I'm like fucking not bright when it comes to all of these things it takes the specific mind to be able to like log in and out of all of this stuff so going through all of the steps I. I've been pregnant for nine months and I'm like giving birth to a show that's already existed but to report that we are on like on track. We are back Mondays. And then actually. We're GONNA be back Monday tomorrow night which I don't know the exact time that that's why we have gale. She'll let us know later. And then we have. We have another episode on Thursday. So we are. Yeah it's been. It's been a process but I'm really happy that we're finally back on TV. No I think that was a huge. I mean Julian I always say for us. It's just audio so it's relatively easy but I give respect for you guys also have to do the video. 'cause IT takes a lot. It's not as easy as the product is. It looks and also by the way. Let's just get into what we were talking about before we started? I am my own makeup artist and hairdresser. I mean it's like it's a whole other world of things that I've had to do now till I get my way. Yeah it it not that you didn't have this before but it probably makes you have a whole new of appreciation for the team. That goes into the amount of complaining. I did before when I think about what I have to do. Now it's it's really. It's really put in perspective but I will say I can sleep in a little bit more and I'm not hitting. I know that that sounds like so ridiculous. It has put me in such better mood and I don't feel like I'm completely exhausted at all times. Yeah no are you kidding? I think that there's sleep schedules huge in that regard like it really changes your home. Ooh The next lately and also when you're doing two shows back because I feel nightly compound daily pop act back then I do wellness this on Wednesdays but it's I was doing another show until recently so it was just like a nonstop burning the candle at both ends to TV. We'll do nightly pop and than do daily pop it some digitally in some back on television to have them kind of comeback in stages has been really nice for me to sort of re acclimate to like being a human being again in. Not just like go go go go go even though I am go go go. It's it's been a little bit more lax. Let's say no absolutely that makes total sense. I this is just testing us. All you know we're all just doing the best we physically. I feel bad right so we have Morgan for a little bit. We're going to go through as many stories as we can with her. And obviously it would be remiss for us to not start with the biggest story that I think happened this week which was a first. Britney Spears Justin timberlake social media interaction that we have ever seen so all my God so for anybody. That didn't see it. Basically Britney posted a video of herself dancing to filthy by Justin timberlake and her caption is. This is my version of snapchat. Talk or whatever the cool thing. You're supposed to do these days as you can see. I'm not really dancing folks. I'm just very bored. Ps we had one of the world's biggest breakup twenty years ago but hey the man is a genius. Great Song Jt Press If you know what's good. So we post that with Jamie Lens comment and we make our caption like praise for a Justin timberlake comment kind of just putting it out to the universe and about two hours later. We get adjusted. Timberlake comment cry laughing face in the three hands-off emojis. And I'm telling you Julie have. We felt a rush like that in a very long time a long time. The is going to comment. I didn't think he was going to okay for jumping in number one. I completely thought that he was going to call it. Never good for one single second. I actually when when I got over what we were talking about earlier. All the topics I is for the first time saw the comment. But I don't even know why I just already thought that he commented but I would just feel like it. So much time has passed and Britney is such an how do I say this Bernie such a different Brittney? Now that you can just? It's not she's not doing anything for anybody attention. She's posting those videos because they make her happy new relic. She's not playing any sort of Hollywood all so I feel like for him. He's like all sweet girl like I love like he's it's not like there's nothing weird about them socialising online anymore. I totally agree with you that that. There's nothing weird about it. I guess I just. We hadn't seen it ever. You know like I didn't even know how that would be. This was out of any post. A lot of our posts get picked up by publications. I would say with the exception. Jennifer Aniston joining instagram. Which happened a couple of months ago? This was probably the biggest. We've ever had easily in the top five in terms of media. Pick I know because I feel like there hasn't been a couple like them since and even if you don't didn't grow up loving then they were they're still like a huge deal? She'll every every anime since two thousand one they've shown that picture of them in the Genus. Yup Negro up with them. They're so a part of pop culture history that it's like you can't escape that. I think it is is because there. They were both equally. Same I mean. Obviously Britney Britney mania you couldn't really top that and then jt when Solo and was major for being so but he kind of also don't mean to say this. But I'm going to. He kinda got he was his biggest solo because he kind of was able to write off Her coattails with all the drama right like no they were together they were the biggest in there sort of like he was the prince and she was the pawprints as and we haven't had that we have. We absolutely have not had that. That's like John Camilla. Wish they could be kidding. Not Handle those two WUSS. You're so right they wish on the weirdest. I can't I mean I don't want our about that but I just I can't handle it but I will say lastly about Britney and just even like Justin Bieber now I was thinking is Justin Bieber Selena Gomez would-be like the competition. That still not the same thing. No it's not because there wasn't comparable right. Yeah because I think the Julian I talk about a lot is obviously. Selena Gomez is a negative celebrity. But she's not. I don't think she will ever go down as one of the most iconic voices Or musicians of our generation. You know what I mean famous for a lot of other things whereas just in a Brittany was really all about the music. Oh my God that was not yet better. I just wanted to really quickly because I know a lot of people were curious. Leeson. Rdm's we wanted to take. Just take you guys back on the timeline of Justin and Britney Brittany. Just a brief one. Which was you know December nine hundred ninety two. They're both eleven. And that's when they were cast in the Mickey Mouse Mickey Mouse Club. They start alongside Christina Aguilera Ryan Gosling Keri Russell etc. So six years later when they're seventeen in nineteen ninety eight they reconnect and they start dating and this is when. Brittany goes on tour with instinct as their opening act and she was on the Frank Skinner show and she explained how they kind of started dating and she said quote. We weren't like boyfriend or girlfriend at the Mickey Mouse Club. We really liked each other. We kind of kept in touch with the very beginning but then after three months we stopped talking and then we saw each other again. He was doing promotional stuff. For instance get a radio show in the heat backstage and I was there he knocked on my door and then we saw each other and ever since. Then we've been going out a while so right so fast forward. Three years that was Julie was referencing the Iconic Gene Auschwitz at the AMA's and only one year later in two thousand and two is when they actually broke up. Apparently what happened was that Britney cheated on him with Raid Wade Robson who of course Was One of the men in the leaving Neverland Documentary and in two thousand eighteen. Injustice biography hindsight. He says that he wrote Crimea River. One of their hit songs just two hours. After him. In Britain broke off ruined. They prayed the historian. It's such a different Brittany injustice. Now it's kind of like Ugh I think. Also we want to remember them as they were wrong. We don't want to evolve even just like super hot and like still really talented in Britain as well you WANNA remember them in. Naji not that you don't WanNa think about where they aren't held for some reason it's weird like Justin Timberlake's thinking about where he is now. Addressed reminds us. How old we are. I think with Britney it's with such different Brittany and it was like prior to any struggles or hardships phases that she went through. So it's like you always want to remember her like back what? I consider to be our absolute peak. Which was that right for an even. I think I wasn't like such a massive brief in when she was. I'd no let me rephrase I didn't realize what a massive Brittany Fan I was in a year and then I realized how ironic is who the fuck is coming out doing performances. Like that like they are not done that way anymore. No Arianna grenade can sing her ass off. She's not giving me a performance. Brittany Spears did is circa toxic or fucking for you know. I'm telling you there are so few people even the best of the best that have that energy in one of the ones I feel that way and I know her voice isn't as is Nazim comparable but like I think. Jaylo gives a performance of a lifetime kind of thing but there are very few rich really true. Well that's what differentiates like stars from icons and bring icon. Also okay. I love that. I have thirty minutes I so much to say between an icon and a star like. It's interesting that Britney is an icon because icons that you speak up are usually people that act and sing. So like Britney. Didn't one movie which we I mean we're not GONNA CONSIDERABLE ROADS. Jaylo obviously actress and singer and whatever like multiple Whitney Houston Saint. Mary J. Blige Sam like all of the sort of icons using our so multifaceted not that Brittany's not but she really as you guys said earlier is known for just the music so for her to be sitting I can't is truly based on her her star quality Exactly yeah it's it's one of those things where like you say kids now they just will never get it. They will never understand. What Britney Spears beacon you don't that's okay trail churchgoer okay. So the next thing that we wanted to talk about was this whole Demi Lovato Selena Gomez situation. This was kind of bizarre basically on Friday afternoon demis apparent Vista username was trauma. Queen forever leaked for. Anybody who doesn't know offense says a fake instagram. A lot of celebrities have them ought of teenagers have them. Even a lot of people are each. Have Them. It's kind of like a way to post your closest friends without going on your maintenance and a lot of different things were on this. But one of the things where a lot of posts shading. Selena Gomez so within hours of this happening Hashtag Demi Levato is over. Party STARTS TRENDING ON TWITTER. Which is so discussing Later I'm sure and immediately. Her fans came to her defense saying at the post fake and they were photo shopped. You know they said that A Lotta pictures didn't have clear pixels that they were doctored and Matthew Scott Montgomery who's one of her closest friends and also a former Disney Channel Star tweeted saying like what is this is fake so the account has since been deleted and Demi has turned off the comments on her mean instagram account. First of all would you think of this I hate to be this person but I just feel like smoke. There's fire and I I don't know I just don't I don't buy that. It's completely fake but maybe I'm completely wrong. Okay to be honest with you. I don't have an opinion here like I really don't I I still. I'm still kind of confused. The one thing that I did WANNA mention is that Demi did an interview with Harper's bazaar and one of the things they asked her about was Selena's instagram story of Demi when she performed at the grammys member had Selena had storied and said a picture of her and said I wish there were words. Describe how beautiful inspirational and deserve this moment was. Demi. I'm so happy for you. Thank you for your courage and bravery and she said in this interview quote when you grow up with somebody. You're always going to have love for them but I'm not friends with her. Instagram story. Post fell and then she stopped and said I will always love for her and I wish Everybody nothing with the best. Why do you think Diane my opinion like it's just it's it's asking by the I have no like let me just I have no fucking idea if it's real or not real but I just think that they don't like each other? I really don't think they do. I don't think Demi has liked Selena for many years. I think she finds her to be annoying little sister unlike they have history they have grown up together. I'm sure they were friends at one point. Do I think that he wants to cause harm? For Selena no but I just think if you're going to put out an interview you're going to correct your cells. 'cause she could accept it totally cool right she could. I wish her the best we grew up together. We're not we don't really keep in touch like I love seeing that girl Rise or whatever. Pr Bullshit. She wants to say to stop herself in Dudek. Like that's putting it out. In the universe I think the biggest biggest back and when she comet complimented my performance. I didn't find a genuine because we're not cool and then for that to have happened in Denver this to it just causes people to be a little bit more torn. So do I know it's real not one hundred percent but I just think even having her make those comments just makes people doubted even more even if it is not real right. The way I feel about it is like you're so right like where smokers usually fire. Who knows if it's real or not my like confusion on the situation is for the Demi Levato is over party to be trending so much on twitter over those posts. Because it's like I don't know for me as a whole group to know the struggles that somebody's gone through like damage has been so open about like came so so close to overdosing for that to trend on twitter at such a warming. Rates mean. It's just like are those two things comparable like are a bunch of deposed worthy of making a girl who has a numerous amounts of mental health struggles. Have to go through that. That's the you're not like the fence deposed right. It's kind of the problem with the world. We live in general like there. Is Nobody monitoring those things? There is no there needs to be censored of rules and regulations are having any sort of social media platform. Whether you're a famous person or not you don't get to just trolls now moving onto a completely different topic but should not be allowed to just told people for the of you having a bad day. I think that is completely irresponsible and I think it's completely unacceptable. You cannot make people like you can't just like right shitty things somebody because you you're late on rented. They seem to be having a better day than you like. Some sort of warning system implemented into these social media platforms that caused people to question or think about the actions that they're going to make because we're GONNA run into a big problem where people are not going to recover or somebody is going to do something to hurt themselves away. I I don't want to get to that point. I mean even for my own personal experience when people have said things about me and they have absolutely no idea about any sort of truth and I'm fortunate enough to have pretty pretty strong person in general. I have a pretty strong mental health Capacity if you will but like it still bothers me so to your point to go after somebody like demme who had who has by the way she did overdose. I mean she. She recovered but she overdosed. Somebody who struggled so many mental health issues. It's it's not comparable but like so. I guess I'm being a total hypocrite right because I'm like the show. I don't think it's fake and I'm talking Shit but then I do think it's not cool that something on twitter like that can trend and just kind of like day. Both of those things can exist that that seems like you can think that it's like we can think that it's fake. I think that it's real but also think it's wrong for it to be trending and I think a Selena Gomez fan base is one of those fan bases that we talk about so often that sometimes become larger than the issue itself. And if you remember back to like you know when Haley Injustice Together even up until recently probably hate that she got was just it was mind blowing. Watch this fan base. That goes necessarily easy. Went something like this happens. It's just you know especially when you think about the age of these people. The fences that they themselves probably have talked about their friends in high school or Middle School. Or whatever it's just like they're able to dehumanize whoever they're talking about so easily in it's not just her fan base there so many of them that do this but I think that's really the issue here I'm not as familiar with legally Selena Gomez van based like. I know that she is a massive massive massive. Obviously but like are they gonNA defend her leg. Can She do no wrong from what I've seen online? It seems like that. Yeah Yeah it's she's you know it's up there with Arianna grounded. As of of the world I think in terms of oil Taylor. Swiss have trend for her. Like are we done with that? Trend that trending whatever. Party's over thing like this. That's my whole thing. I just I mean you know. Join the joy. That's something we talk about all the time. That's just something we can never get behind but I also think what was really interesting which we probably will never know the extent of it but I just think I'll certainly coming. I would be so curious about. Is there so much behind the scenes stuff that happened back in those early days that we are not privy to and I cannot wait? I don't want that more than anything. Like think about all the behind the scenes Selena Demi stuff that we just have no idea about. I mean there's so much demi stuff that we got in her documentary when he was talking about like using drugs on the set of Camp Rock on you know in between takes on On the show that she had the the saint show like x factor there but there are so much that hasn't come out yet. What will it ever? I do want it I I don't really want it to. I don't want to see all the dark super like upsetting shit. I I know I guess I just it's true. It's like on one hand I don't want to at the same time. I have a real pressing curiosity. I guess that's human nature. It's really just. It's really one of those things. It's like hard to navigate because once that door is open. And you were. Let's you what you're wishing you've got every single piece of Dirk then you get your obsessed with it and then you feel like you need to shower. 'cause you're like why did. I knew that things like I feel bad for this person right right. That's why I I always appreciate things like that. So much better when it comes from the person themselves so that I don't feel it's intrusive you know like Zion Join. I talk about a lot and I swear to God. I'm not just saying this because of the podcast it's really true. We don't read blind items like I hate that stuff. I don't like that I just don't like that world of it. I would so much rather read like a person's tell all or really intimate interview. I Don I got. It's so funny that you touched on that first of all I work in pop culture. I am on television. I of the blind item world is literally a week old for me so I randomly ended up following somebody through a friend's request and the Post. It's a their posts are just completely made up of of blind items the anxiety. I have felt through right now. Persons Page has made me feel so bad. Kinda dirty though. I have to avoid looking at it. Because she's not trying to or he's not trying to actually don't even know what is who is run by. They're not trying to like it's a private account is obviously contained. There you know is kind of like follow. If that's your appetite. Don't follow. I accidentally followed. I realize it's not for me. I don't WanNa know through that. It's just like us. I could potentially end up being one of the It's not it's not a world I never know. Yeah you are a huge. Ignorance is bliss factor to Hollywood that? I think that you know. When you're growing up you get to really enjoy APP. It's like every couple's perfect everyone's great. No one cheats on everyone. Like as you start to get older assange like sort of make your way into the world. Those things start to get ruined for you and there's only a certain point where like you can contain your love of of people on these celebrities that you've grown up with and once you cross over that line until the you know the blind items in the rumors and all those things you start to ruin it for yourself. Oh my also like I. It's so funny because I obviously again I do. I like we'll talk about things on the show and obviously do like light research about so. It's we're not talking about the most serious topics right. I mean we're talking about pop culture and I sometimes will justin will like talk about a scenario and I'll be like there's no way that happened. And when we he's like are you okay? I guess that happened like naive about show. Much about what people are capable of doing. The the lengths that they will go to remain relevant or just even like setup Paparazzi shots. I know that that's that's something I should know which by the way I do not people do that and I always have known that to the extent they do it right. I'm like Oh you. Are that pathetic. I didn't realize I thought it was a little bit more effortless. I don't have genuine i. I hope I get to that point where I do so I can get really famous but I know that's something we we talk about this all the time because as we've obviously gotten you know more on this business and Julie and I don't WanNa be famous like our stuff is all private but in terms of just having knowing people better we really see how much of this stuff is so calculated and it's very. I almost like to take a step back and I'd rather be my little naive fourteen year old self at times you know Hun Next thing I wanted to talk about was amy Schumer changing her son's name. I just thought this was hilarious. So on her podcast. Three girls one Keith. She revealed that her and her husband changed their eleven month. Old Son's name from Gina Fisher to Jean David Fisher. She says it was Unitel Fisher but we realized that we by accident. Names are son genital. I've talked about this already a few times different people. It took me a second to realize that it's like I get gene atoll and then it took me six times to say it out loud and understand the INSTAGRAM goaltender. Everyone's using that's the guest gibberish word. Yes that's so funny. I mean it's funny. Because when she first when they first announced their kid's name you would have thought that if it was so quick to the minded that would have been a medium or something. Nobody said a word like it feels like they thought she did it on purpose. It was Perkin. Call my mind at all in quaintly. She couldn't capture son's name as it wasn't I would never have realized until somebody eventually said it but she had gotten away with keeping it. I don't think anyone picked up on it. I think she picked up on it before right. I think she was thinking about her son. In like six grade with a potential bully. You know just trying to be addict for no reason. Will the name of your kid Like Jean Fisher. Is that like Genital Fisher is an actual sang like the word Fischer is also an issue. Yeah is it Fisher or Fisher would be the way it would be pronounced With Wilson together with still be an issue. What you know what? She's a smart. Cookie actually really happy that she has decided to go with. What is it's like David Nick? The most basic name is because they were able to name it after the same person the guy's name is David L. And it's like you've just done that from the beginning. I think they wanted to probably be more interesting. Italian warship could have gone with Attell David Fisher. You don't tell is a cool eight year. She's going to be pissed when not agree on? Did you see the pictures of Ben? Affleck Anti Armas in the face masks. I wanted whenever series conversation about this. I want to know what is going on with his level of thirst and I don't WanNa make a bad joke because obviously if his history but what the fuck is he. Why are they desperate? happened so much. Let me tell you something about. I don't know two or three weeks ago. He she posted a picture of herself and he comes in on her instagram. Saying no photograph question mark. We posted that obviously as soon as we Physically could because we freaked out but we said to each other. This is the most off brand thing ever. What is going on the fact that we commented? That is still weird to me still weird. Do you think that I have so many questions trying to figure out where I wanNA start do using that? Somebody sat him down instead. Like you've been out of this game for a long time. You had way too many ups and downs when we need you to acclimate to soar like to social normal life again. This is what the kids are doing. So get the fuck onboard. Honestly yes I really think that and honestly I don't even like I don't dislike him at all and I think she's so talented and so gorgeous. I'm not even like I'm if they're happy I'm happy I don't I don't mind it at all. I'm just inch. It's such a weird. It's such an it like a dynamic I was not anticipating like is this A. Pr Thing is really no. I don't think this movie. I think it's a Combo I think it's I think it's half real half pr or Israel other than they're really trying to ramp it up. But I think she is beautiful. She was in that movie with John Hill what was that four dots out most recently. And she's the bond girl show hot. Why is she so not giving it to me on those dog walks? I understand walking dogs. You're not going to be full Graham. I never info lamb unless I have to be so. I don't want to take away from that but there's just something there it's too early for me to see them show average of. I need some glamour from those two right lanes. I want first of all. That's a Corinthian has done this taken away our ability to see celebrities and get like a shot of them out at dinner looking like Amazing League now one of the earliest stage of their relationship where we should be seeing like exactly what we saw them on the beach or the picture of them in Cuba where they were and now we're just getting them walking their dogs like seven years into a relationship. I'm not there yet okay. So here's the thing if I'm GONNA be in full fucking foundation every God Damn Day on to Armas can be also alright together. Looks I'm incorporating leggings and button down shirts. I'm really making an effort. I mean everybody else. Who Else is making an effort? Kim Kardashian's making an effort. Compassion is absolutely making effort and she has four kids at home. That are not letting her do it? But she's doing. My love for North West lately is comparable right. It is honestly I mean. I don't WanNA throw out the sign shit because it's so it's so me don't laugh during I was like what's your sign anyway at a hundred story my wife. What are you wait every? Excuse me doing podcasts. Everyone's either. I'm a libra with the cancer. Moon in a Sagittarius rising. I'm a Gemini Virgo. Moon Vergara rising And a DA. No Way Gemini Virgo and Aries Moon. Sorry I'm late. What other things releases Scorpio with cancer moon in a Labor? That's really complex? I Love Gemini. Libra are the most dependable signs. I know we had a Scorpio. Okay Scorpio Gemini and Libra. That's left yes. I is either Libra Scorpio. We heard I have a Lotta Scorpio's randomly. Also I Scorpio. I mean listen. Scorpio's get a bad rap and sort of Gemini is honestly fuck them. Also Gemini Gemini are very different from Major Moniz. June June German is. I could see they're a little bit more narcissistic less fabulous. Wait may like myself twenty second of May. I'm sorry worn on. The twenty second of May not. The most stunning day of the fucking year is getting married. Somebody is getting pregnant or like an angel coming down from heaven. I'm sorry I know that I'm biased. It's my birthday December. Second like who block NASA be born on December? Buddy it is you need to be like. I'm all about October November. A No not just saying that the also see that k November has some spice grew it December February late February. Oh my car me. He's funny thing ever. I'm sorry it's the woman beautiful day. I'm pissed I can't work on the day I want to I do. I'm probably have that little soccer competing with me. I'M GONNA plan no but Julie does not what happened with your mom yet. My Mom's November fourth. But then I get to be the gift that she brought home from the hospital. You guys the best guess she ever had. That would yes that is very. I like the separation with it but I know a lot of people that have also given birth to siblings on the same day. I don't know what that's about. Oh quitting right that. That's also weird. That's that's I also think it's weird that it's those siblings right. Mary Mary Mary. I think our time is up with. That went so fast. Oh my goodness knows. It was a gale. I need a weekend working so hard and then I do these things that I'm having the best time Meinhard life. I'm so appreciative. That we had you buys. This was show much fun and I feel like people like me on your staff. So that's good. Yes people you are one of the most. I mean everybody loves dressing. Obvious everybody loves you and I know he tried to make this work a couple times a New York and it didn't but next summer in la or your New York will come into the studio. We'll do the full thing and I can't wait. You ever GONNA come back to clapping New York or what because it's like what am I gonNa be? I just Jimmy Timeframe of when I'm going to be allowed to come back. They're scared of with question. It's scary I'M GONNA. Let's just say a prayer for the fall and see what happens. You think about you walking into the studio like sick Blazer Fob. Laser with some sick booth was either. I I've been waiting to my shoes for like weeks minus camera. Look a Mike are you is do you think about me? When am I going again? I don't even know how to acclimate to like this new way of white. It's very odd now. My shoes call in the city. I'm like they probably think dead. They probably think I abandon them true. Anyway Catch Morgan on nightly Monday and Thursday nights on e. We love you. Thank you for joining. Thank you so much coming back on whether you want me or not. Yes whenever okay. We'll talk to you soon. Everyone needs a gray pair of wireless ear buds. But before you go dropping hundreds of dollars on a pair you need. Check out the wireless ear buds from RECON. So you guys know. I've definitely talked about them before they are about half the price of any other premium wireless ear buds on the market. 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I can't even tell you how many times it just hasn't worked out like it's been so close that it hasn't for on both of our ends and so then last minute. When Gail contacted us I was like yes. Absolutely let's do it even if we only have a little bit of time because she's just so quick and so fun and I just really enjoy her personality hundred percent. Okay couple of more things. We really got through most of the subjects and just a few other things that we wanted to touch on this was blown out of proportion but I felt like it was important to acknowledge it. So Chris Hemsworth didn't interview and he was talking about Liam's men's health cover and he goes. Did you see the men's health cover? I thought not bad kid not bad. It's the Australia. I guess we got him out of Malibu. Of course that when everywhere like Chris Hemsworth Shays Miley Cyrus a new interview? I have to be honest with you. I swear to God. I didn't take that so much shade. I think like yeah. The Malibu situation clearly wasn't doing him while just like it wasn't doing her well and the Australia living probably is benefiting him. I did not think it was as big of a deal as everybody made it. Did you know I think it was as big of a deal is already made it but I just feel like saying specifically malleable? Maybe is what it's one of those things where like if you're going to mention something that is even remotely associated with it's GonNa get blown out of worship no matter what every single ripe and I think he probably was simply saying Malibu. Chew specifically say Miley without saying early. But I don't think it was like she's the worst person in the world. I think it was like that was a little bit of a toxic situation in the separation as good and like that's okay. You know. He's to focus on himself now. He's away from everything away from La away from Alabama away from all like it would have been really bad if he's like yes. The new girl that he's seeing in Australia Governors California gurls. Then okay fine right. But you're you're right. Which by the way. I have to tell you sometimes I forgot how hotly of Hemsworth is. Julius happened to me twice a week. I I don't know why forget like I don't think he's hot. It's just like I saw that men's health cover and I was like. Oh Fuck Yeah. I forgot what happened with me. Chris Pine don't even get started. I'm Chris fine it really it really just forget. I can't you're right Kristie Walla's ones where it's like you rediscover of every time every single time in your goddamn and I watched Prince Harry's to a lot like a lot L. Too much to be rediscovering him. Yeah you guys know who else is so hot. I just started watching all American Jewish convinced me to. She's on season two on ethnic last night. Oh you finish only season one but Michael is his real name in real life. He's the one that plays Jordan sexy. I mean just Paul his handle for anybody who doesn't know who he is a monster I know he is. I told you I wanted you to watch so badly. His name on instagram Michael Beasley Zero. Five is named Michael Bailing sexy. He looks better in the show. He doesn't instagram but he is sexy yet. No I can't believe like now you're watching you realize that you've seen it on tectonic or you really didn't think they thought that much on to talk. I didn't see it that much but I definitely did see it. You're going to get so many now. I know I am. I'm so into it. I mean they're all I love that also speaking of Tick Tock. We just wanted to give you guys. As as I know we set a couple of weeks ago that we're GONNA do every week a couple minutes to talk update and obviously the most notable thing that happened this week was that Charlie demilio and low haughty publicly announced on instagram. Their breakup they both basically posted these stories. Saying you know yes. We wanted to mention it because I know you guys have been wondering we're broken up. We're still friends. Please respect our privacy a very coordinated publicist statement. Which is crazy. Considering the fact they're like fifteen years old and they had to do this but it was notable 'cause it was the first time ever acknowledged and they're the first couple of instagram. Like they have. If you're going to wear GONNA put out a statement you gotTa Pass Statement. I mean they couldn't get away with not the conversation that we're having a Morgan earlier about Brit Britney and Justin being like the first couple of pop culture is like one of the bigger pop culture couples that we've ever seen or the biggest pop Couples we've ever seen that's what Charlie Lombardi architect talk they are. There's no denying that no. There's no denying that that's why like even if you have no nothing about the APP. Don't WanNa be on it. That's totally fine. But you're doing yourself a disservice in terms of being knowledgeable about Pop Culture by not knowing who she is because this girl is making waves. She's up to since our last podcast. She's up to forty nine million followers on talk. That is really crazy. She is the most followed person on one of the biggest APPS. Ever fucking believable. Like when you think about Instagram. And who is the most followed every single person? Who's in the top most followed celebrities Kylie Jenner? It's Kim Kardashian? Are the top top top people to go top top top people like Charlie is just a girl from Connecticut who just made a name for herself on That's absolutely insane. When you think about it no it really is. I also wanted to say that I feel like I don't know how much we touched on it last week but I feel like even in such short amount of time. Addison is climbing up. She's at I think. Thirty six million or something like that and she's she's become one of the hottest commodities on tick tock she's also nineteen years old. So it's different than Charlie because she's She can play to a different audience. Obviously and I just think she is a lot of star power. I think she's really I think I think she's being really methodical in choosing what she does and I just have a feeling. We're GONNA see big things from her. I agree great Embrace you can get back together now interesting. We had this conversation last night we did. I was so strong. You remember for forty minutes you and me. Yes on the phone yes I. G is the hottest commodity in the world. Yes I remember I remember I. Did you know how stone I was? I don't think I realized. Oh my God I took. I took probably fifteen milligrams of that. Cookie have nice. Yeah because you know what's funny. Is that like last night sleep. You're like how much longer do I have until you're asleep on might awhile. I haven't been able to fall asleep from before five thirty this entire time. And you're like okay and then three seconds later you're asleep. Woke up today and I was like what happened last night. You're dating facetime me like I was like I just feel like I got. I said to my first thing thinks Juliette twelve. I never wake up at twelve as a Julie. I just got bodied by the fucking edible. Yeah God that's so funny. Yeah okay next thing. I wanted to talk about and last thing before we go onto the ORD ceremony is. I need to ask everybody if you have been watching too hot to handle on ethics and if you haven't I need you to so that we can talk about Julie hasn't washed yet. But you guys okay. Crabbing for anybody who hasn't watch. Let me just very quickly explain the premise of it. Then I'll talk about it for two minutes but I know that if you haven't watched you're going fast forward but that's fine because eventually she'll come back to this so basically it's Netflix new reality show and it's ten singles. Really hot guys really hot girls. They put them in this house together. On this gorgeous retreat I think in Mexico and there's one hundred thousand dollars that they're all trying to win and they come in. You know not really knowing anything thinking it's kind of a dating show and what they find out is the way to win. The one hundred thousand dollars is they have to abide by the rules. Are The rules? You ask. No Kissing. Not touching no sexual touching no sex and top it all off no masturbation for four weeks which as you say saving Corinthian but then you hit that last point Julie the note the no masturbation thing special within you hit that last night. Yeah you when you hit that last one. You should've seen the guys faces. Like I think some of them are like fuck the Andrea and ready to. Just get out of there you know how many know though is their cameras on the middle of times. There's cameras on them all times. Yeah like even in the middle of the night if someone does something 'cause they also those cameras it's very it's very jersey. Shore season one season. Two kind of ives. I love that but let me just without giving anything away. Let me just tell you a little bit more about it. You know it's a it's a collection of international so we have everyone from Australia the UK America Ireland in this House. And you know they come so a couple of the people that I did some research on this Francesco. He will quickly realize is one of the biggest characters of the show. Her instagram handles. Francesca Farrago. And I checked two days ago. She was at four hundred thirty five thousand she now is at seven hundred thousand and she was an influencer before this and she says that publicly on the show and I did some research and it turns out. She was dating diplo in two thousand seventeen which is pictured. I just want you all posted on Petri on you know what I'm talking that's crazy. I know I also found out that Sharon who is one of the guys on the show. They're all they're all very attractive. He was actually in feddie walks music video. Which is not like hilarious. You get so deep. I know he was in Feddie. Wops fresh clean music video And he was Mr Pennsylvania two thousand eighteen just some fun taxing another wasn't Mr Pennsylvania. I got really also matthew who you guys will see one day referred to as Jesus. He was on cycle. Twenty one of America's next top model in two thousand fourteen looks like a totally different person. Now but just a fun backstory and listen. We all know. I don't pretend to be something that I'm not. I love trashy television. This is the epitome of trashy television. It is fascinating and you see that. Basically the whole idea of the show. Is that if you do something sexual if you break the rules the entire team the entire house guests deducted money so like a kiss is X. amount of money having sex on money. A blowjob is X. amount of money. It's basically of a an itemized list of what your sexual favors cost the house. And it's exactly what I need during quarantine and I also to be honest with you. It made me feel a little better of like you know what I'm not the only one going through sexual deprivation so deep you get so deep into it. I get concerned for you. First of all I just you know what you for ya I promise you before. Acquired I swear Julie. I made a promise about last night. I don't trust you. Isabel side texted me. Watch like just like really concerned like please I. I really just think I'm mad at her because she will watch the say. She doesn't get to tell you what to watch when I do. You do and I wanted to say though for anybody are for you actually if you get if you get confused as to why these random People are coming up on. Our feet is because I followed every single cast member from comments. Because I'm really interested in the in the comments that go on okay. So that you know. Next week I'll get once everybody's caught up. We can get into a full discussion about what we think. But I don't WanNa ruin it for anyone. You guys take take the week to listen. We'll come back next week and we'll discuss house. I watch this week. Great Walk to your show American. Yeah absolutely I love it okay. Good host fashion's favorite duo. Heidi Kumon Tim Gunn Amazon's new original series making the cut assembles. Twelve talented design entrepreneurs from around the world to compete for the chance to turn their brand into the next global fashion business. 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Isn't it like have no idea what she's saying that she writes? What a mess. I'VE BEEN DRINKING MARTHA STEWART. Drunk commenting on About baby chickens is probably one of the greatest joys. Instagram has brought me Julie Peak instagram. That is lying. Ram You're right. It's peak instagram. That is why I love having this account that is why I love having this podcast because let me tell you something. It would be damned. Shame for Martha Stewart to drunk comment on H. Chickens. Instagram and for us to have the chance to talk about it. You're so right you're great. You couldn't be more right. God agree Moving onto best quarterback of the week. It is an honor and a privilege to give this to none other than Kylie Jenner This Account Kylie snapchat who we love her by the way. Great account posted a throwback video of Kylie at the factory three years ago at the sugar factory opening and some comments while she's so skinny heron someone response. She was better and she responds. I birth to baby. Okay Highly Kylie love when you club back. I have so much to say about this. There's like three layers first of all I love on Kylie Cop. Sex very rare. I can count on one hand the amount of times that's happened right second of all. I love the fact that it wasn't on her page because that means that she won viewed this by herself so she got tagged and she saw it and to make took the time to read through the comments. You know and also like I miss when they went to sugar factory. Oh my God. These were the Golden Years Scott designate. Sugar factory what it is factory would be nothing without Scott Disick. Yes she should be getting a royalty check. He probably is invested if you smart invested. I'm sure he did. The thing is that I want to say about this comment. Is that the people. We are not naive to the fact that a lot of people don't like the Kardashians and a lot of people that didn't don't like highly were saying no. That girl wasn't saying that she was better because she was skinnier. They're saying she was better. Because it was pre- plastic surgery and yet Kylie birthday baby but that doesn't account for all the changes in her body. Here's my thing right. I want to comment on what she got done. What she didn't get done clearly. There's been some surgical enhancements fine. It doesn't matter like weather. Whatever you think that person is referring to. It doesn't matter because the bottom line is that they're commenting about her body and when they thought it looked better just not their place get the fuck off of her Dick. Wow what do you think? I think you're right. I didn't expect you to get off of her big. Let's feel it so it's like I just feel I get really frustrated when it's like I agree with you. I totally think I think it would be amazing of Kylie came out and was transparent about the surgery she got doesn't have to but it would it be great. Yeah that being said just because you're upset that she has in it doesn't give you the right to go on and forget that. She's a human being and comment about her body and when you think it looked better like it's this is a conversation. We have often were like okay celebrities. Oftentimes don't come out with whatever's Surgery whatever procedures surgery. They've had done because they know that they'll get backlash for having so much. Like people will not be kind to the fact of what they've had if they came out and wrote out every little people would not be nice that but at the same time we have an issue with them not coming out and saying it because then it seems like you're pretending that this is all natural that it's attainable. Everybody can get this and you're in a no win situation here exactly and we should be able to do whatever you want your body and I obviously believe that but I think that the point of her coming out and not not coming out and not saying what she had done isn't because she's trying to pretend that all this is so attainable. It's because there's no win situation yes you get. Crews she get she'd totally Crucify Ford Either. Way exactly okay. Before we go onto the KARDASHIAN RECAP I just wanted to say we got this email this weekend from this girl Rachel and she wrote the most beautiful email. Saying how you know. She found out about the page podcasts from Kelly Ripa and she said I'm going to read this one paragraph and I got her permission. I'm senior Fordham University studying communication. And I feel like I've just been waiting for my moment to really dive in and researcher media brand for a class and it came. I'm taking a course called promotional culture and so I- analyze the comments slips podcasts and its function of authenticating the micro celebrity and she ended us being like. I just wanted to share. I don't know if you guys see this and we open this essay Julie Tax. She's like did you see the email we just got and I read this girl's Essay. It's first of all unbelievable like so well written in so legit and here. She is writing her entire like final paper for Fordham about our podcast and it was like the most. I can't even tell you how mind blowing of experience was for me like didn't you feel the same way. I are you heading off down. I read every word of Atar you. I just did my life never in my life. Did I say that somebody would be writing a final paper for school about something that I did? It's really a mind. Fuck and so Julie Julie issues like you need to read this right now so I read it. I obviously lost my mind and I sent. Is this voice back. Because I was like there's no way I can express how I'm feeling via via email. There's no way and I sent it to Kelly. Also because like you need to see this like this is so unbelievable and so I think her privately but I wanted to do publicly because it was such an honor and it was really like one of the more special things that someone has done. Yeah so to you Rachel introduce everybody who listens. I just want you guys to know how much we appreciate it because we get a lot of messages saying that it's like the right is part of your weekend things like Adan. It's the rightist part of hours to be able to do it. So this is a very mutually beneficial relationship and we appreciate every single one of you and I just want you to know that hundred percent on. It is not lost on us for one second. No it has not definitely not so Kardashian. Recap I wanted to talk about his coordinates. I Forty First. Birthday obviously quarantine. They couldn't really do anything but would not be a Kardashian birthday if they didn't celebrate a little so in addition to the beautiful Jeff Leaf and flowers that she got one of those being sent by agent alone who I will say it until the day I die Class Act I love the way this aspect I love the fact that she still has such a good relationship with family even though her and rob has been broken up for so many years. Yup aw I'll say it a million times I so agree. They basically had a car parade and it will get into all the details. You guys know that we watch those videos. A times over screen recorded the fuck out of them but we had Kendall and fi the same car. We'll talk about that. A second trysted in Khloe in the same car. We had Kim North Insane. Obviously Tracy in her kids Steph shop. Sara Howard Chris Kylie don't think was there But we had a giant parade of anyone in Kardashian. Realm right was it was. It looked let. Let's just say it looks on lead time. It looks. I forget which one of them wrote like our neighbors hate us he. I saw that too it actually. I was thinking about that because I was like. Wow I never thought about it but you guys have so many parties outside. Yeah didn't even register for me but I was like. Oh my God if I was standing there all those fucking cars were outside of my House. I go crazy Joe. Yeah I I WANNA get into a couple of dynamics that people were asking us to that. I know a lot of people. Were really freaking out about chloe interest in being the same car. But you guys have to remember. They have been at least as a month ago at least as of a month ago. Quarantining together so I wasn't surprised I would have been actually surprised that they weren't together. I agree so let's not forget that it's not like I'm not making a statement on the status of their relationship although I don't personally believe they're back together but you know they. They said that they were quarantined. Together would have been weird if he wasn't there right. A hundred percent Kendall and FI. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Okay they're in the same car together so people are presuming that they presumably are together or quarantine warning team together. Yeah ricin first of all right off the bat let me just say that like I think that them quarantining together isn't anything like it isn't weird. I think that for candle to be alone would have been awful. Are I think that being alone during this time like absolutely hunter present alone? No connections to anybody. I would not have been enjoyable well. That's what I was going to say. I don't think like if we take it from top level assuming the fact that them being in a car together means they are quarantining together. I don't think that that's weird to me. That doesn't drop any flags but you take that to the next conversation. Which is do. I think that they're dating are like probably the one of the most common questions we get asked Inbox or do think that they have. I don't think they're dating and like there's a very big part of me that does believe because I've seen it firsthand in my own life guys and girls heterosexual men and women can be together as friends and have there not be any sort of sexual relationship. It can be totally platonic that that's a possibility here. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if they also sleep together. I don't Kendall is the type of person now like when you think about Kendall on her friendships and who are people are? She has a lot of guy friends. She is the girl who has a really great group of girlfriends. She's good friends. Obviously G G umbrella and Haley in has that grew but she has always had a group of guy friends and I think that she is just one of those girls who really excels with her guy friends and on a very platonic level. So I think the thing with her and finds that they have been friends platonic for so long that there would have to be some major shift in order for them to start hooking up or start dating. It wouldn't just happen all of a sudden I agree with you. I totally totally agree with you. And that's why like if they're totally platonic. I would hundred believe in not even that night. I'm just saying if it came out that they do occasionally hook up and that it's one of those friendships that they're not gonNA date but like they have fun. That also wouldn't surprise me is all I'm saying but do you think fits into Kendall's personality. I think that we don't know Kendall as much as any of the other ones like. I think there's a whole other side of candle that we just don't know let's fair like I can think obviously like everybody's different. I'm just using like my experiences to frame it of like I have had. It's not common that this happens because typically you develop feelings when you're sexual with someone or you can but I've had really a few situations of very very close guy friends that we would hook up because we were super sexually compatible and it didn't impact the French one bit you know right like I don't think I don't know they're both so hot. I know but I don't know I don't know if if they have that personality you have to. Remember Lake. Kendall's the type of person and we know this for a fact that has it a certain amount of social anxiety that she's been very open with in the past and I think for my experiences in from what I've noticed with people. Is that like people who tend to have anxiety socially. Aren't that great at being able to hook up with their friends and keeping a platonic and not have feelings or not awkward around them or not have any residual anything. Kendall does not strike me as the person that's able to do that. Yeah let's strike me as the person that's able to have a best guy friend and not hook up with them. I totally agree with you. I guess what I'm saying is that I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if it was either way. I think that their monarch but if someone said to me really secret information that I just want you to know they also occasionally hookup. I'd be like Oh yeah that makes sense but you know it's interesting that you don't hear that no you don't hear that and usually when there's smoke there's fire that we would probably be true but I don't know I like the dynamic and to be honest I don't really care if they're hooking up. I've always been a huge fan of like guy girl. Best friend relationships. Yeah I've always loved that dynamic. It's like a Harry Hutchison. Kylie Jenner Situation Darren Jordan. It's like a Jordan Jason. Yeah Yeah it's a very protective friendship. I'm always been a big fan of that. So he wanted to tell you guys about one of our favorite. Podcasts is called everything iconic with Danny Pellegrino. You guys may know him. But he's a comedian and a writer and he has his podcast where he basically breaks down reality TV icon pop culture moments the stuff that we all have to talk about real hassle dinner from rules Rom coms Cop music so much more Julian. I actually went on that podcast. You're in La the last time and he is such a sweet guy so he has different gas commodity. Dig deep kind of breaking down. What's going on in this drama? That we all love. You pokes fun along the way. He's had a lot of people who have you know award winning actors Musicians Reality TV stars drag Queens Comedians. Everyone in between some of the notable pass gas our Jennifer Love Hewitt Elizabeth Olsen Alyson Hannigan. He said so many Bravo liberties like saucy. Kelly died said the Kate chastain for below decks so many more. Don't just take it from me. Everything has over seven million downloads to date. And here wife for yourself. So don't miss a beat. Enjoined any Pellegrino twice a week on apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast the other thing I wanted to just mention North West that video with Kim trying to do the. Psa for California north comes in she is like like a Queen Quin Nova truly do realize the amount of and I mean. This is the most positive way commotion. She causes fucking four or five years old. Like can you imagine when they're when she's going to be fifteen now? I can't Charlie demilio is fucking shaking thinking about North West being fifteen. She is. Let me tell you something out north to be that young and that like confident in yourself that assured that vocal. That is a gift. That doesn't just calm. That is a gift and that comes from being the daughter of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West Yeah it's at is a combination that she has gotten and it has come out in the most over way. Where like unbelievable to watch her because she is so funny she is so much personality. She has such good timing when she does things with Kim. It so funny to watch her. Just become a person. It is so true. I mean in a different light for a second. I saw a news posted a video that Tina Lawson who's obviously beyond as mom had posted of Blue Ivy. And she was doing that experiment where you know you put pepper in a bowl. Symbolize the virus. You put soap on your hands in his shows. How it you know Pushes the virus away and you can see your face but you could hear her doing it. She sounded so eloquent. Like I. Just I don't know. I think these kids are so little and then I'm like wait a second. They are fully their people. You know totally in. It's so I mean the the two of them are so different because first of all with blue see so little of her that all of a sudden one day she was you know one day she was a little girl. Run running around on the beach the next day. You're seeing right the art show or the grammys as shushing beyond side. And then the next time you hear a speaking like you see so little of her. So her growth seem so drastic worth. It's like you're watching your every single day. Become this little person and grow up and it's like you've been learning her personality and she was so young and you're just watching her become an older version of her same self. Yeah it's so weird to see but it's like also so funny because they're so much personality there yeah over like watching North because the thing is the only I can compare it to Israeli watching base and grow up with him. It's like you watched him. Turn into a little mini sky. And you're always like Oh. He was the first crashing baby that he always holds a special place in your heart with north watching. It's a whole different ballgame. It's a whole different ballgame. I mean you know On a smaller scale. Obviously you don't get the same amount of exposure but that's how I feel about Luna like like I think she's a really really special kid like A. Yes okay I get that clearly. She's adorable but more than just that because when I watch her interact and I know you and I just in general like really enjoy the psychology of kids but when I washed away that interacts I think. She has heightened awareness like I. Find her to be intuitive. I think she's the type of kid that would know when someone satellite go over and give them a hug and that's not something that every kid has you know. A hundred and Christmas tweeted things. Like I can't remember the tweets off taught my head obviously but have alluded to that kind of behavior and her or that kind of personality. But there's I find her to be very intelligent. Also endorsing that. Chrissy tweet the other day where she was like. I told you. Ask The stop asking me for things and Bruna said okay decided. You're GonNa give me a lollipop. Yeah the understanding of the difference between like asking and demanding like that's not something like that's she's young to be able to have that understanding she just turned four milly thing. We've never like when you think back to celebrity kids growing up. We never had this insight into their lives and their personalities. You saw celebrity pot shots like we all remember watching Shawn Precedent Jason James growing up because there are so many Paparazzi shots of them with Britney. But you never knew them. You never heard them speak. You never watched them really grow up with instagram and watching celebrity kids. It's like you get that attachment to them. Because they're the celebrity kids but then you get stories and you pose and you hear their voice and you get to see their personalities. Come out so interesting. It's totally different. We're now living in an age when celebrity when Paparazzi shots of children is actually really frowned upon yet more. Intimate interaction with them is celebrated. It's really interesting because it all comes from the fact that like it's at least it's the parent's discretion so Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard make a conscious effort. They don't post their kids at all if they do. They have an Emoji on their face so when a Paparazzi does it. It's very intrusive. Meanwhile Chrissy gives us a lot of content of her kids and she does it so as long as she's the one doing it it's okay. It's not being done by some Paparazzi. So it just an interesting shift. I would be something interesting to kind of focus on and it's GonNa be interesting watching them grow up because I think that they are such versions of their parents like Christie and Luna Luna is Christie's personally to a T. Is Connie Kim to attack? That blew from what we've seen is so beyond say it's not even funny but to be able to watch their personalities actually grow. It's like it's hard to know what is a result of who their parents are in. What's a result of them growing up the public by? Yeah it's very interesting The we just wanted to end on this no because I just think it's such a nice thing so according to TMZ. They were the first to report. That khloe apparently covered the tabs for shoppers at Trader. Joe's Ralphs and those stores are opening early to let seniors have their own private our and she apparently also bought store gift cards for over two hundred employees throughout the various stores. Just a feel good story. Yeah I love feel-good story area. That was very tyler. Perry of her yes. I think that we've seen a lot of celebrities in a lot of people really like coming out and doing different things and I think it is a great thing to be able to say. Can I tell you a reason that I don't have a hatred for Bentley? Ever have a hatred for Ben Affleck but like one of the reasons that I don't get on the bandwagon of like like being so disappointed in him. One when I was seven or something we went on a family vacation to Lake Las Vegas my entire family and we have this limo driver and of course me and my parents were like talking him and he said that Ben Affleck was the nicest client he's ever had that he drove him. All the time said he was such a nice guy and for some reason that stuck with me. Isn't it funny the way those things stick with you because if you like if you're not same scenario and you heard him say something discussing Ben Affleck that would stick with you the same? Yeah he said that he tipped like every single time. He's like he would knock it out of the car without giving me one hundred dollar I've driven the sky everywhere. The way I feel about. Ben Affleck is that like. I don't feel disappointed in him like I think that's the wrong way to explain it. I think that he obviously has gone through a lot but I think his biggest bright spot in my mind is that he was married to John. Garner for so long and I trust Garner's judgment probably better than anyone so if she sees something in him. It's still see something him. He's golden in my book completely agree with you Julie. While said thank you all said and you know something they have and I think in to her credit they have A civil over relationship as they possibly could and again. I'm giving her the credit for that but I don't know there's a reason that they were married for a period of time. I just I don't I don't know I just people in judge him as heavily. No I think there's obviously reason their marriage for a period of time and there's obviously a reason beyond just being the father of her children that she still sticking with him and helping him completely the two last things that I wanted to mention totally random but they just came to me. I Really Highly Recommend Katy Kirk newsletter called wakeup call she. Does it Monday through Friday? And it's just really good like I just trust her when it comes to renewed respect. It's concise and it makes sense and it has enhanced my inbox. I figured I would share the wealth with you guys and your mom loves it too. You know that story. I told you what happened again. Middled my mom emailed Katie to say how much she loved the newsletter. Mentioned me. And I'm Joyce mom from Kansai Slava's I love the newsletter at whatever and Katie herself responded to my mom was like Oh my God. I Love Julia. Love the girls like it was the sweetest thing ever I her GACA. That happened until you just said that. Actually it was the sweetest nicest thing ever let me tell you something about Katy Kirk truly she is. I my entire growing up with her on the today. Show I mean. I watched that with my parents daily. And when she was coming into the podcast with her with us it was kind of like similar to the Kelly. Thing like the. Don't meet your heroes. Thanks you never know when I tell you that this woman is the most genuine kind generous person it's like. Do you remember you and I were like? How is it possible? Her and Kelly can both be this way it was. You know what is absolutely crazy to me? Is that them especially. I feel like we're just so beyond my expectations but everybody that we've met has been so like I have not met somebody where I'm like. Don't meet your heroes because it'll be just winning every person that I've met I felt like I've been so happy that we met and show lucky and they've been so good to us. It's unbelievable everybody except one what you're not gonNA save. You know exactly you don't talk about. I know exactly who you're talking about because I never expected them to. You're not expect that the few both I was expecting it excited about no. I totally agree. Any person except for that one person has been beyond my expectations. Really just three second. Anecdotal money promised will end. It was my dad's birthday on March tenth and I put together this video for him with everybody in his life just like saying their favorite quality about him Washington. Happy Birthday and of course my dad has so many friends so when people will love him so it was like seventy five people and it was like forty five minutes etc. Anyway I asked Kagan Kelly and a couple of other people and they both said the sweetest messages and I recorded my dad's reaction. I sent it to them by debts. Crying when Katie's talking it's like the sweetest sweetest thing I will. I feel so lucky to have that like in ten as tangible form. His boat wrote a poem in case. You guys were wondering. Oh Yeah. Julia was the cutest I recorded. My Dad's entire thing. I set up a tripod. He was hysterically crying I'll have forever and I love it someone anyway. That's offered today folks. We Love You guys. So so so much please. 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149 QAnon Casualties: How to Save a Loved One From Conspiracy Cults

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149 QAnon Casualties: How to Save a Loved One From Conspiracy Cults

"Hello. Everyone I'm John I'm allie welcome to two girls one podcast alley and I are performers. We had a live show that was a comedy show all about the Internet. In fact, we use the Internet as our script that was called blogs. We then had a web series called two girls, one show in which we met the people behind the Internet posts and went on scripted adventures, and now here we are at this podcast interviewing people from the Internet that we find interesting talking about different communities and phenomena This is what the daily. Dodge, and our producer Matt Silverman Hello Matt. Colo hello. Hello. So any of you been up to any conspiracy theorizing lately. Yeah Yeah. Totally. Confession here. Big trump supporter big trump supporter. I know and it's unexpected also, yeah. Big trump supporter have been going down Cunanan wormhole and I'm like what I'm seeing. Tell you about doing some research for the show and I gotta say they have a point. Here for it. To I'm really glad to hear you say that word out loud because I thought it was. For a long time. Right okay and some people call A. Q. to be fair. You also thought it was called coop before we corrected you. Coupon. I'm not even GonNa tell you guys what Cunanan is because we have an expert coming on to tell everyone what it is. Well, I would like to mentally prepare our listeners today that this is not just one interview. We have a series of interviews. So so many interviews, it's going to be thrilling I'm working to hear a lot of different voices or GonNa get a lot of different perspectives both journalistic and insider with an experienced perspective deputy. I'm really excited about this got an expert we got someone whose husband fell down the wormhole. We're going to hear about that someone who fell down the wormhole and then climbed out. And we've got a cult de Programmer. Super excited about. Chen. A creepy kind of yeah. Pretending. That's weird. Sound effect I feel like. Looking at some porn while she was. With us, you know. We need a smart. Or more purse Wa. Episode is All. That a statement alone should lead us up to the election. Well speaking of smarter or more and more definitely more people We would like to thank some of our patriotic supporters contributing at the ten level or more. Thank you Jerry Duran. Jessica. Fox Melissa. Eliot James Dozier Christopher Lacks Kathy Phillips William and Matthew Scott Thank you so so so so much. We really appreciate it. You too can visit Patriot dot com slash two g one P and hear these melodious voices say your name. All right folks we are so excited to have with us our very first guest. Please welcome to the show a journalist who has covered Cunanan extensively including four the daily dot. Please welcome Mike Rothschild, welcome Mike. Thanks for having me hi Mike. I just wanted to chime in here and say that you were just on reply all and I just wanted to confirm that we're better than reply. All is that is that right or oh, I can compare my children to each other. PODCAST I am on equally great. To get out of the way. You off Chen. Please continue. So, you've been covering cute on for at least the last year. Is that right? More two years Cunanan started in October two thousand seventeen and I started noticing it probably around December. But it didn't really start seriously writing about it until a few months after that at and how would you describe it to somebody who's never heard of it before if that is even possible I, would I congratulate them I'm having never heard of it. And I would call it a prophetic conspiracy cult. That holds Donald Trump will be conducting a purge of the deep state and that only people who follow a an anonymous poster on the Message Board Eight. Chan. Know about its details sounds plausible and what are some of their biggest beliefs? Sure. The biggest beliefs of the Cunanan movement are that Donald trump is a tactical military genius who is capable of thinking in twelve simultaneous dimensions and is absolutely ahead of all of his. And if he is not ahead of his enemies, it's only because he's done that on purpose his vocabulary is any indication. He's definitely thinking on multiple planes yes. Oh. For sure the cumin but also holds that there is a vast ring of padding files infesting every level of business commerce politics entertainment in the media, and this giant ring pedophile controls the world and communicates with each other in public using codes and symbols that only q in on believers can decode. So there's a vast giant enemy that is doing the most horrible things. An involves all of these prominent liberals and the team at trump dedicated to taking it down. We're curious where does this come from in the first place the belief in a sort of all powerful, a ball of people who are pulling the strings on the world and controlling every aspect of it that's been around for centuries. That's the freemasons. That's the aluminum body. That's the Catholics that's always. But the. Is. The juice. Bar I did my senior thesis on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Betcha. Didn't see that coming Matthew. I know I didn't I was excited to know that you have t shirt that says always the Jews I know that. I definitely want that t shirt. Now if our guests could please continue. Sure. So where this comes from in particular with on the availability of conspiracy theories I, I don't think that we are a more conspiratorial culture than we used to be, but I think it's definitely easier to get into this stuff. You know to be a conspiracy theory believer in the pre Internet days you had to go to the right weird bookstore. You had to buy the right vhs tapes you get the right pamphlets. It was a lot of work, and now you can go on twitter and create an account and just make up anything you want to, and if people like it, you'll get half a million followers within a couple months. It's. It's very easy to do this. It's it's very prevalent. There's barriers to entry and. Where Cunanan comes from his that idea of sort of everyone's a researcher everyone is an expert everyone who has goal confined all of the deepest darkest secrets of Kabbalah. About. So it's it's very much able by technology, but this didn't come from technology. So it sounds like technology's really allowed it to take off because of the erosion of authority and expertise yet it's much easier to find these these things and find these people and it's it's easier to become one of them. If you spend an entertaining story, no-one's fact checking it. There are gone gurus who do talk about how everyone in the government is a clone and you know there are aliens and we're working with a great galactic alliance and then there's no. You don't need to be. Can you tell us a little bit more about the aliens I hadn't? Off. Get into Q on as much as I researched de. You what you find is that there are factions in it, and some of them believe really really out there stuff and some of them believe only sort of out there stuff. There are q believers who who have bought into the previous conspiracy stuff about federations. Aliens at shake shifter's at clones and people being replaced by body doubles. And even a lot of mainstream Ju- believers think that those people are crazy and a lot of them think that they are like planted by the cabal to always in the wells the rest of. If you really go deep dark into this you will find all kinds of bizarre stuff. This obviously doesn't just exist on the Internet that it must play out in the real world in some ways. So what are the ways that Q has manifested in the real world? Like we've all heard pizza gate was that part of it in some way or you know what are some other examples of that sure pizza gate was about a year Before cue that was in the run up to the two, thousand, sixteen election and pizza gain is the conspiracy theory that Hillary Clinton and her campaign manager. John Podesta were running a pedophile raring out of a Washington D C, pizza places basement. Now that pizza place doesn't actually have a basement and everything in there was taken from the leaked emails from John Podesta and some very out of context images that were put up by conspiracy believers. Cunanan as sort of like a mutant version of pizza gate but I think it's much bigger than that and it goes much deeper than that to is a very, very online movement. He don't get a lot of UPS. You don't get a lot of like Q. Conventions rallies. There's a few. There's more now because of all the Save, the children's stuff but the the manifestations of q in the real world tend to be very, very small scale they tend to be Sir families no longer speaking to each other our parents and children disassociating from each other spouses breaking up because of it, and then you have the crimes you you've had at least two murders committed by Q. Believers, both of whom weren't. Found to not be mentally. Fit. To stand trial utada instances of arson vandalism, you've had a couple of attempted kidnappings enrolling in custody disputes. So when you tends to go into the real world tends to be very hyper focused on very small scale interactions because you tired to not get big June displays you don't even get them trump rallies anymore because the service won't. Let that stuff in Cuba on supporters are no longer allowed into trump rallies yet they can't bring their gear they can't bring their signs and their t shirts, their their banners and all that stuff. So it's interesting because trump of course still endorses it who started the conspiracy is a natural occurrence like a lot of people just like putting things together and then talking. About stuff and then coming to some group conclusions or is there like a single origin point and what is that person or group's agenda is just for lows or is it about some sort of coup is at about political control? What's the source? There is one specific or point for Cunanan, and it was a series of four Chan posts in October of twenty seventeen. But would you have to understand about that is the idea of somebody going on fortune and pretending to be government official did not start with cue. There are a whole bunch of high level official pretenders who went on fortune and said, Hey, I work in the White House and my identity is a secret and I'm very close to the president and ask me anything. and. Then you get people asking about like A. Executions clogs. In Stockton this would go on for couple of days a week, and then that would just disappear and it was all a game. It was all just this sort of live action role play that these people do online because that's just the way experienced. The Internet Hugh was another one of those and it just took off. It was telling a story that people want to do believe was true it was. Telling the story of Hillary Clinton by me being brought to justice for all the horrible things that she did people wanted that to happen and so they responded positively to Anna just talk going and going and it moved to who from four Chan to Incheon it probably changed hands a couple of times. There's several different people who claim to have made the I q posts I don't think any of them were particularly credible. What are all of the tactics that are being used to suppress Cunanan, suppress it really the right word because it's not like they're this movement that needs to be heard in my opinion. But what are the different things people are doing to Kinda quiet this absurdity? Well, one of the things that are happening our social media companies finally kind of waking up to what's going on with all this. For. Almost its entire existence Cunanan was basically able to live on facebook and twitter and instagram almost totally unchecked the first real action taken by social media companies was read it and that was about two years ago when they had completely banned any you and on content from their site and Cunanan now basically has no presence on at which is ironic because that was really the first place where jumps. On Fortune Culture to made stream culture was with the first two and on Reddit board started but they've been banned there for two years. So now just in the last couple months, you've had twitter tried to disabled searches for Hashtags kneecap said to links messages anymore facebook closed on groups there were a bunch of bands of major figures none of this stuff is actually worked. Bud they are actually starting to try to do it. Right. So let's focus on Bat. So he said none of it. It's not really working from from what I've read whenever a platform kicks them out. They just Kinda get back together somewhere else. Yeah. You had a bunch of major cue promoters who were banned and they've all come back. They've all snuck back onto twitter. Created, new accounts, they don't hide who they are. What they usually do is they'll get banned they'll go to Parlor del complain and whine about how they got banned the teller everybody with their new account is. Back to twitter, and within a day, they'll have twenty, five, thousand dollars I'm sorry. Did you just say parlor parlour is one of the far-right social media alternatives that that people have tried to get going as a no censorship alternative to twitter? They they don't work. They're very buggy. They are also full of racists. There's no moderation at all. But nobody outside of the far right uses them. So they're basically just echo chambers with there's no growth. There's no opportunity for any kind of viral traffic because they have such smalley user bases. That's interesting on a lot of levels what are other tactics that are being taken? To Quell this or other things that you think the tech companies should be doing that they're not while I think what the tech companies really should have done was take this seriously a couple of years ago. Unfortunately Nice. True. Democracy crumbles and they're like, oops yeah. Well, taken that a little more seriously. They don't understand the scope of the problem, and so they list some hashtags they make it harder to search for things but the people who do this are really good at getting around it. So they'll find alternative ways to talk about you. They'll find different hashtags that they can hijack all the save. The children's style really blossomed because Hugh believers needed other ways to talk about their conspiracy and the idea of child trafficking was already part of it. You know you had all the scenes from the bill stuff and they just jumped on to that because you can't really ban something as harmless sounding and saving children. So the constantly that these social media companies couldn't get rid. And they're really good at gaming, the system, and unfortunately they're always going to move faster and had sort of a lower threshold than the big companies that just take a long time to do anything. So are you saying it's hopeless I am saying that it is a much more small scale effort that we need to take on individually to stop to. We can't. We can't rely on the big companies to do enforce because it's too late. So we have to do it in our own interactions asked to do it. In the way we share information way we process information we talk to people on the way we treat the chew on believers in our lives in the conspiracy believers arrives in general, it's all it's up to us. Can we drill a little deeper there? What are the actions that you think we can take individuals the actions that we can take individuals to kind of blunt human on first of all involves knowing what we're reading. Don't share things that sound like they could be true without looking at them to see if they are true and that's something that we all do every everybody comes across something on their social media feed and does all I want that to be true sheriff and it sounds like it could be true. You know this is just something the other day about with the trump taxes story jared Kushner deleting all of his tweets after this story, Chemo. Jurica she was never tweeted and the story is gone out A. Couple of times it sounds true. So we wanted to be true. So we Shera and that's so much of how something like Cunanan rose it. Just it's like being that we can form biases and we spread them to other people. So everybody should just take a minute. Read you looking at make sure it's true initially that the other people in your life are doing the same thing check on the people in your life you are heavy facebook users make sure that what they're sharing is real not fake story just. Be Hygienic in in your use of social media, we are relying on tech companies to decide what to clamp down on what to sensor so for and on it's very easy choice. But for other things, you know you know, White Guy. At a tech company saying this is censored and this is not like that just is very problematic. How do we have a nice thing like social media which will never go away but still keep people safe or put some sort of regulation on information without wrongheaded censorship or? Something like that. Yeah. It's a really fine line between sort of the the nanny state protectionism that conservatives used to rail about and these sort of unfettered anything goes say whatever you want attitude of places like four Chan I think where we're comes in is is really the consistent application of rules. You know a lot of what happens when you report objectionable staff especially on twitter is there's just no consistency there's no, there's no hard and fast rules in this. Okay. This is not okay and if you want to. Talk about these subjects that's fine. But you're not allowed to say call somebody a pedophile. We don't want that on our service you you WanNa do that go somewhere else and sometimes you get that and sometimes you don't I think it's I think it is a reasonable expectation to be able to talk about a wide range of topics on a major social media platform without constantly being called a pedophile or without constantly being bombarded with antisemitic needs. Have you seen the Internet helping people or People's loved ones? Out of Cunanan like are there any places of light that we can look to for this online there? Definitely are there are some first of all there's great journalists who are doing some really amazing work in the Cunanan spaces, the extremism space you know those those are people that I go to as sort of trusted sources but in terms of just sort of being pulled out of Cunanan General, there's a couple of groups that I spent a lot of time in the one is tune on casualties. which is for family members and loved ones to vent and get help and get advice and just know that they're not alone and that there's there's a much smaller group that really only started recently called recovery. Q X Four X nonbelievers and that's starting to see more traffic there. I've been able to talk to some people from that site from that community to get their stories and that's that's really inspire me but thank you so much for spending time with us today this has been great speaking with you. Thanks for having. Support for this podcast comes from Microsoft teams. 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So when and how did he start to fall down the queue wormhole toll he had always been. Quirky right. So he was into conspiracies but back, then this was in the Obama era conspiracies weren't really political yet. So it was just aliens and you're kind of like out their theories. So seeming more for entertainment purposes we got married had kids lived on and there was a flat or conspiracy that he got into. A little more than just for entertainment purposes. We actually did an entire show around flat earth at one point work. We're familiar with conspiracy. Yep. Now is the first one he started taking like steering like actually kinda seriously but I wasn't taking him seriously. Well, it's hard to take a flatter they're seriously. What was your reaction when he was like, Hey, honey I think I think this flat I just didn't. Believe that he's like really thought that I don't know I just. Entertaining something. Weird, I. Guess. What you have maybe put him on the conservative to liberal spectrum at that point L. Liberal One, hundred percent right? He would correct me on being politically correct about stuff. Okay. There were some conspiracies about Hillary Clinton. Doing something shady. I don't remember what it was because I, just never paid attention, and so he didn't want to vote for Hillary in the last election and he did vote for trump. But he didn't believe trump would win and even after trump won the Hebron, you don't make fun of them and stuff. So he's still seemed to be like not conservative definitely not Republican and then last year around. June of Twenty nineteen, he started acting weird just kind of like Saddam like overly happy. Okay and just a little different and then one night he said to me, I spoke to God. And we were not religious. Previous to that bat are just like, okay whatever. And I had lunch with his French shortly after. told his friend. That my husband was acting weird. And his friends that have you seen his twitter. And I had not and it was. Just, full of conservative stuff and he was like very obviously like incubate light insecure on a trump supporter he believes that Hillary Clinton was like. Harvesting children or something just crazy. So what was your response than? Did you approach him about it right away? Now. It was. I would lay in bed next to that night thinking wake just Haskins this ask him if he's at trump supporter. which is really ridiculous now because like that's hard probably matters the waste. It. They Q A. Stuff and all the conspiracies leads with that that really mattered the most in kind of ended up over the past year changing its personality So eventually, it came out and I felt like he had been lying to me and. Just kept this whole thing secret from me. And he was also converting to like a really conservative Christian faith and he just knew that I wouldn't participate. He never gave me an explanation though we he was converting. Yeah. Here's. Crazy a scientologist. And he left Scientology. as like an older teenager adult and I wasn't raised religious at all so throughout. Our Up to that point, we'd been together I six or seven years. We never really discuss religion or anything, but the Cuban on to follow what cute believes you have to be a Christian really my understanding is yes. Because there's a lot of things like trump is I don't know actually cannot hasn't like a lot of different flavors of on and like the whole like trump is Jesus's soldier and you know these other people are demons and all that stuff that's like a big. Part of it at least the big part of that, my husband's and. No that I knew that it had a lot of Christian rhetoric but. Okay. So so many things. You mentioned scientology and I think it's really interesting because that is arguably a cult and Cunanan is arguably a cult. So do you think there are certain personality types or people that are more? To these ideas I wouldn't say it's a personality type I. Don't think you're going to be born with a personality. That's GonNa make you susceptible sis necessarily, I, think. In any religion, the teachings are this is the way it's the only way and there are no other ways. If you grew up in and that's all you know and then lose that at some point. You are left. Without your foundation, right they are always looking for something else and that's At least what my therapist said happens has been and I mean, if you're someone that's like high anxiety or you have an addictive personality than than, yeah, you might eat more John, staff. So we knew you tried getting him help and maybe try to reason indefinitely reason with him. I'm sure. But I'm curiously what were some of the tactics that you tried or what was your approach with all of it? Beginning I thought. That he was. Having some issues I thought he was stressed out. I tried to get him to go to counseling. which he wouldn't go to in the beginning, he wanted to go to couples therapy. And at that point. That I made about point I was like a relationship is fine. But your obviously stressed out hit also lost away. So I did get him to go to the doctor. I'm wanted him to get his thyroid tax or you know just. So kind of health issue he he went to the doctor, but he didn't do any of the test. I tried. In these ways but I couldn't make him do anything I did talk to his family and friends buttonholing wanted to believe it. I don't want to believe it either all when you talk to his family and friends what what did they say? Did you try any formal intervention like what happened? Summit his family members are into the Cunanan stuff also. And they've feel like. I'm a liberal so I think. They took it as me. Just being like up in arms about my husband turning conservative. And not like this is a harmful thing Nolan Warner to see it as a horrible thing. So everyone just kind of brushed it off and it also say that I went through periods of just brushing it off and not leaving it. because. It's hard to believe some of the things that he was saying. What were what were some of the things he was saying, what were some of the belief she had related to Cunanan? We'll he definitely believed. that. Donald Trump. was trying to persecute these elite pedophile. Cannabis. And That, there was a secret. Army a digital art Cunanan is like digital. Army. And someone Q. is like. Spreading messages like get giving knees like secret messages. To tell the digital army to like get ready for the storm. And all this stuff, and there's like these weird sight theories like planned parenthood is selling baby fetuses to Hep C. Four flavoring. I mean, that is true. Let's be on. That one. This just weird cleared stuff. Yeah. We'll. It's interesting to me that when you talk to family or friends about it that it almost sounds like it was like a conservative versus liberal thing like, oh, he's just maybe getting more conservative but like without. Really acknowledging cow out there some of these things are like, yeah it was getting out of control. It sounds like he was such. A harding like gentle person. Who seemed pretty level headed even his quirky and No one wants to believe that no one wants to believe these things about someone they love. You know. So. I think a lot of people just didn't want to hear it for a while. But then how did you find the sub? Reddit. Are Such cute on casualties and what was the experience of posting there for you. Live roller coaster. Dealing, with the whole thing was that I just kind of wouldn't believe. Some of the things that he started saying to me, he kind of started showing some. The genetic and controlling behaviors. So I would write these emails to myself as to like what happened during the day. And then it got to where I was reading these emails and I was questioning myself like. I'm being emotional. I'm being sensitive. This isn't a big deal. So I finally. Just wrote something read it. You know I wrote my story was going through. And so many people responded and took took me seriously because I really I don't know if I was and they citing goget. Counseling. And they gave all this advice. You know they set up social abuse. That's. Some of the stuff he did was I guess financial abuse which I didn't realize was a thing, but it's part of controlling behaviors. So I learned a lot and I got from emotional support. I did go to counseling and. During. That time. Was Pretty recent. It's when coronavirus happens I think in corona virus happened Cunanan starting to really more visible publicly. and. So other people started dealing this other people were going through the same thing and I had no idea I really felt alone. I had talked to my parents and it was like dad that sent me Cunanan casualties. Read it. So the end of my story. I filed for divorce. AM I. Post was really short on Gerald casualties. I just said I filed. For divorce this is the thing for me and my children. And I haven't told anyone my my real life and I didn't know how people on Cunanan casualties agrees on but they they're very supportive. and. Really helped me be strong in that decision because you know choosing to get a divorce over something. So surreal. As A. Conspiracy theories is. Is is difficult it might have been. The most emotional support. I could. I could get. Wow Way to go read it. And then any advice that you would give to others who have people in their lives who are going through this now that you're going through this experience while I know you've talked about counseling but anything else you can say about just an approach that they could take. Thank. You to pick your battles. I don't think it's going to be like this forever. I think to on will go away. But. I picked my battle because in my situation, I have kids. And they're watching to set the example so. I chose to get a divorce because I can't let my son. Watch my husband and grow up. To have the same problems and behave the same way. And I can't. Let my daughter being relations trout. where she is complacent in these states because if I stayed, that's what I would be teaching my kids. So that was my battle however on to on casualties I, do see things like, oh, my aunt, my cousin, it's so annoying like. I think every situation is different in any really gonNA. Say It's horrible? or is it annoying? Because I mean nothing lasts forever so. I think just keep that in mind if you're going through this. Well thank you so much for sharing your trauma with us. I think. Time but. It helps them learn and honestly I'm doing. I'm doing a lot better now. Because I started school and went back to school I. Got a job in the career that I wanted to get and Doors are open for me now that they weren't open. Before in my marriage so I mean things are going to be good for me I'm only one person right I can't fix my husband. I can only raise my kids and help myself and that's what I'm doing I. Hope. Here's my bike. About talks to. Me Thank you so much. Support for this podcast comes from state farm with surprisingly great rates. 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Then I was just I was just Alex Jones one day he had a it wasn't he means being, but he had a couple of guys on. Talking about suburb at that was full CBT s undisclosed stream the calmer for the storm and look a whole anger on in reloaded detail arrive to get the long and short of it. I was socially isolated at end with not in the best mental space and so you fell into Alex Jones that find. Find Find Gentlemen so. Can you through the steps that led you deeper and deeper into this short on old enough to remember weapons of mass destruction remember like trump in the election media go wrong completely like everyone got a wrong one side happened I win looking for alternative forms of media as how found Alex his entertaining. Then Alex has these guys on and the talking about anonymous pasta initially on four Chan and then a little little later now, a cordon. Chen. and. He was apparently dropping hints about the secret like. Wore the dollar trump was fighting because I was very disillusioned with the media at the time and that's kind of how I fell into the Hawk tune on I'm kind of conspiracy because it was it was one conspiracy off the other it was like a little slow lake slippery slope and how long were you into it chewing on two and a half years Like straight off. Yeah longtime. So what are some of the wilder things that Cunanan believers believe this is like the conspiracy theory of all conspiracy theories the wildest thing is what's the wildest thing you've ever heard like? Making Buckley like human beings, reptilians flatter mall children JFK JFK's assassination that thought even part of it. That's how. That I saw this other conspiracy theory where they will like Blue Avian Birds Finding. Reptilians who are behind the Cabal? So yeah, it sounds like. Roads and Q. If you fall down any conspiracy theory wormhole on Youtube you end up at Q it's no. Except for those who think like is a sil-, the conspiracy the cure is literally real, but it's actually a silent by the way ball. Double. Its. Had fake for like a secret. It's a secret government. Operation. Cooperation. It's actually the good guys making the bad guys seem good who are trying to get the bad guys but they're actually or whatever you know it's it's not even understand what you steady to even worth. powered. Parallel to walk you on is if that's why kind of answering goes everywhere. So if it's so bad shit crazy. What do you think do you in it for two and a half years? Hong, ironically. Like the strange thing about Q. is that I feel like in some way, even conspiracies like human beings have this inherent sense like project the insecurity about the lack of control of their lives. So they always invent some sort of greater power like whether it's like a communist leaving the power of the state, the whether it's like someone believing God, even the conspiracy theory of like an cabal or luminosity. Even if the evil, the fact that the idea that something someone's control kind of a company. For me personally it was. That all the bad things were happening in the world. When? You know that's just not human nature to do bad things but it was actually the work of an evil cabal off this cabal but was overthrown. We can have a great. That a world soul which is like it's kind of sad basically, no, I mean I would like a better world for us all. Wanted would've adds up. There so Is it true that you consider yourself liberal as you're getting into kyun on absolutely like I was a bench sander supporter like on the very like chill-out left during the -Tarian let people smoke Wade life drugs. Yeah. I was a big bang sense. Photo. Than, Hillary. Guy Comes along and like I'm Julian assange releases emails from wikileaks. So then Hillary beat Benny in the in the primary. Then Donald, trump against hillary and like I didn't like trump I didn't care about trump I love idiot. Then then Hillary comes along like when she loses I just personally found that very funny and very satisfying I went from Ben Bro to then seeing like Donald. Trump. Being uselessly attacked by the media and the reason than starting to pollock you Alex joins. Then you start watching like Sean Hannity had Laura Ingram and Tucker Carlson who I still really like to this day. Like getting the whole right wing. MEDIA ECOSYSTEM AND All. So you become this right wing Guy, but like key isn't about are. The I find myself like having all these opinions but the thread there was because Benny was anti-establishment. And trump and cube that was supposed to be anti establishment as well. So that was the common thing between these like wasn't a left a right thing. It was a authoritarian. Individual, Libertarian idea. So. That's how I was able to go from being a benny budgeting transporter. That's that's fascinating journey because it seems. They seem like such polar opposites to me but you did articulate how one makes it from one to the other. So you've spoken a lot about your distrust of the media, which I also think is really interesting because I tend to think of distrust of the media happening with Donald Trump, accusing the media of being fake news. But what's interesting is that you're actually pinpointing it to an earlier date, which is the fact that the news all predicted that he was GonNa win and they didn't just that the media didn't see like in line with reality and I think that's really interestingly. Not like what why would I listen to you? Then just because you're not sure about something what happened that you've finally? Became suspicious and got yourself out of it. What was that process an experience like funny 'cause it was actually a daily. Article? Right. Know. I don't think he talked about. This. This Only realize like three days ago 'cause I'm emailing the guy who wrote that article then Mike Rothschild Shop. Right he's also on this same episode with you. We also spoke to him. Really that's great. That's great. That's great. My colleague, the speaker but like he runs this article on the daily at, it was talking about how at the time there were thirty thousand sealed indictment supposedly these Q. people keeping a tally based off like legal data websites please as like objective evidence that that correct the look look at this data, right? The only thing is Microsoft article he was talking point he was making glee that. Sealed caught precedings. Not, field indictments, all of the show, some of them are, but they're also like the old. Tests with this testimony decisions just there's no comparison he did. They started recording a number Dow study thousand. It's. Locked. What what if it was like one, hundred thousand what have you laying the cabal? Go that kind of stuff really bothered me then. That culminated in this tip top to top shaping well, like one of the people asked you if he could. Get Donald Trump for a specific phrase as kind of like a shoutout to the born the phrase they asked him to repeat is tiptop tiptop shape four months Donald. Trump. Says this in front of the White House. And then key points this out. He has all was requested this phrase. So People's occult issues like that. Really as a shout out to the ball like the main piece of evidence the thing is video that had like a thousand views on Youtube. Very poor production quality guys legend. Any just basically talks about festival person who requested that and highlighted four months later on this anonymous thought was stumped was after the same person he proved that I don't tell them that that's just something that Donald Trump says. He just says that from time to time so that's the moment I realized this was a very slick So what you're saying that the process for people getting out tends to be like. A detail that doesn't fit a minute unravels from there like what I guess what I'm trying to get that is, how do we get people out? That's just what happened with me how people get out. I have no. IDEA. It Depends on what boy you in like. I think that reaching out to them with like empathy. And I think understanding like with what happens me on? That might be a better way because otherwise there's no incentive for them to come back. To admit you're wrong about something. So big or I wasn't like there was the tall about it like. There's no like you don't go back from that. That's incentive for them to come back. STRENGTH THAT TO Be Overcome so. Is there any hope in getting people out then? You don't WanNa know what I think. You don't WanNa know what I think because I've heard audience. See it. I like this too many people. Like what are they? GonNa go? Can you might like even if trump loses the not going away if trump dive these coronavirus, which would be like checkmate Welp sleigh twenty twenty that was one hell of a Goddamn story. Yeah. Then he'll be what day fide yeah. They're still there they're just gonNA say the deep state while like the movement is a going away. That was terrifying. I told you I told you. But I have a question and I I asked another guest this as well. But I'm very curious how you argue with someone who says the mainstream media doesn't want you to know and that's why you can only find this information on these alternative sources. Decent response to that First of all, obviously, you can't find them. You can only find them on these or we might disagree why but let's agree to disagree and just focus on what the story is just like what is it? This. Always the details at MRI like on loose. Government from Atlantis has decided on the thirty four point three. D. Council meeting, Blah Blah Blah. So what are you getting this information from? Like where the records the witnesses, but it doesn't matter Kinda argue logically. Is. It's all emotional. You Unleash reach some of the logical argument. How did you find Cunanan casualties? I love. Obvious love what it in like I love reading it makes me sad. Yeah. How did you come across? It 'cause I was on a tune like cult headquarters and it just kind of came from that. At like I'm announced like twenty thousand remember when it was like look like a few hundred like. When it first started, it's just growing much added just if you at this the twenty thousand people and spread it, there's tens of thousands of people out theft that this is impacting. How did the community react to your story? I was shocked because they were ultra support him. I was not expecting that out expecting to get flamed I think. A. Part of me was like kind of projecting my self loathing onto them. So I was hoping to get flamed if that makes sense. Though hundreds of comments and like one was negative. Wasn't that bad it was just like all your idiot and I'm like. I know. I was broken and they kind of back together again. So I have a lot of. Love, for those subbranch I know you said that you don't think there's much hope for getting people out of it, but you also mentioned the mental state that you were in when you got into it. So are there clues that people can look for? To help prevent people from ever going down this wormhole, well, a social isolation I think and mental illness those those are the two biggest respect me delay-free existing conditions. If you've got someone who's mentally unwell and who's also very socially isolated, that's when you're the warning signs should be like. Loud and clear on the coincidence asthma my mental state improved my social isolation decreased that I started to see all of this was. So perhaps, an avenue for family members to try is to maybe not even address Cunanan but just help that person may get mental health assistance. Do you think that's a possibility or get a job like leaving? The House made people like senior friends just just stuff like that taking medication, go to the psychologist or a psychiatrist problem is. Like a lot of health cast off in America, it's very hard. That crop will free interesting and you also mentioned earlier that rather than press people on their sources, rest them on the details. They may unravel their own story is that the other Jack? You'd say that's why it takes time and effort because even if you going into admit that this one story might be a little dubious, right it'll take time to have enough impact for them to get away from it all because most people who stop believing chewing on don't stop believing conspiracies. They still they put chewing on his part of that conspiracy whether as at least with my dad for example, he still believes in it, but he'd like his behavior has changed. He's not like I was like I tasted aggressive we can only talk about chewing on. It. He makes a at every family event like he doesn't do that anymore, but he still believes in it. Ryan and I that will go away but. It'll take some time and for that to go away, you have to address these other two mental and social isolation issues as. You brought down then you brought us up. Appreciate to get some really great insights for us as well as you know tactics, people can think about helping others get out of this wormhole. Thank you so much to tar. Thank you. Nice to meet you guys. Thank you. And last but not least today folks we are speaking with someone very special. Please welcome to the show Rick Allen Ross, who is a cult de Programmer and many other things. So welcome rick a bank Eugen I I do intervention work to get people out of calls and I also testified as a court expert witness and I am the author of the book cults inside out how people get. In can get out and my website which was launched in nineteen, ninety six and is now a very large database is cult education dot com where people can get a huge amount of information free online about everything we're talking about. Thank you. It's great to have you and I just wanted to know how often are you confused with the Rapper Rick Ross and have you ever been rick rolled? and. If we start linking your image everywhere, can we also call that Rick Rolling the answer to all of the above his? Yes and At one time you know I was the owner of the domain name Rick Ross Dot Com and the Rashford the rapper, Rick Ross and that's not his given name though it is mine. So, he's He tried to buy, but he was really cheap and so i. I didn't sell it to them, and then I ended up selling it to to someone else who now runs a gaming site on that domain. But I once appeared on an MTV show that was about you probably remember it. It was about escape or king who had a kind of fantasy factory. and. He he brought me on. He brought me on this show to D program his cousin. From being just a really big DOUCHEBAG. To work on. Is that. Washington's does it take? took. According to that show was just one. Wow that's impressive work I've been trying for years. Rolled them in in. In a acrylic cube and he he looked down, he looked at me and they have this big bodyguard. This big guy that was on the show he was like a refrigerator and he looked at the cousin and he said, you know this is the real Rick Ross. And their cousin when he's just this old white guy, what are you talking about? was very strange, but we had a lot of fun. We're spilling. The T. here regresses cheap apparently. Gossip. Recounted you become a cul de programmer I started out as a really an anti-cull to act of this. This weird group infiltrated a nursing home where my grandmother lived. They tried to recruit her and just basically runar lunch and I found out that they had covertly inserted their members into the paid professional staff at the nursing home and It was a weird group that was kind of a pentecostal group that's specifically targeted targeted Jews and the nursing home was Jewish nursing home and my grandmother was eighty two at the time and she was very upset by the confrontation and so I worked with the Nursing Home Director we eventually ferreted these people out and I realized that this was a plan that they had an and quite frankly pissed me off and so at that point, I became an anti-cult activist community organizer I worked on various committees and the net result. Was I started doing intervention work working for a Social Service Agency and Educational Bureau, and then while La I ended up doing this full time since then I've done over five hundred interventions an almost every state in the United States and in Europe. Asia. Around the world and I've testified as a court expert in ten states including United States, federal court, and then I wrote my book in order to share with everyone how this phenomenon works, how people get in and how they can get out what are you doing before this? I was working for my cousin. In the wrecking yard business, he are a one of the largest wrecking yards in the state of Arizona and my work was partying out and rebuilding automobiles and really enjoyed that work but I found that Trying to salvage people was better than salvaging cars. How many times have you used that line I like it I like it. I think this might be the third time. Working, it's working. So. Why did they want to indoctrinate these elderly Jews and? Along with that, can you go into water the main facets of cult? Okay. The motivation to indoctrinate elderly people as I found out was cash and assets The group had a significant amount of real estate that had been bequeathed to them by those. kind of people by elderly people that they recruited and then they died and they left their estate to this group. So. That's a major reason why many elderly people are targeted and continue to be targeted by these groups because thereafter your money thereafter, your house thereafter, the equity you have in property. What's fascinating to me is from the colts that I've looked into which, of course, you know Newbie here and the cult field but. Some of them seem like they're well intentioned at first and then they turn into like a multi level marketing scheme. I don't know if you had anything to say about how many or to what extent they are deliberately founded to exploit people or to what extent do some of these wellness practices or whatever become cults. The saying today is the first day of the rest of your life was coined by Charles. Deidra who started a rehabilitation community in California was called Senan on and it was at first wonderful where they were trying to help people overcome drugs. Dietrich, was reformed alcoholic he he used some of the of the principles of alcoholics. Anonymous, but it became a personality driven cult. So a group can start out with good intentions and ended up bad. What what I find is that if there is no accountability for the leadership that as they always say power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and an a community where you're frequently as the leader surrounded by adoring followers and you have no accountability, your ego can become more and more inflated and you can just go off the rails and i. think that's what's happened in some cases though I would say, honestly. Many of these people seem to have this as their as their goal in their intention that is to exploit and do harm to other people. So if you could quickly let our listeners know like, what are the what are the main things that all colts have? Okay. There are three core criteria that formed the nucleus for a definition of a destructive cult. One is that and this is the single most salient feature that all powerful leader who has no meaningful accountability who becomes an object of worship as whatever principles that group claimed to have begin to fade away and that. Leader is the defining element, the driving force of the group, and then second that leader uses that power to intensely indoctrinate is or her followers using thought reform and influence techniques that break people down change them, and then locked them in subservient dependent position to that leader, and then finally having gained that undue influence the leader then utilizes it to exploited and do harm to people, and that varies by degree from group to group because some groups are way more destructive than other groups not everyone is a Jim Jones or a Charlie Manson who leads their followers to death and murder. Most are pretty much after free labor cash assets and sexual favors. So today's episode all about Cunanan and. Curious in what ways is this a colt some things are definitely ringing true. About indoctrination there does seem to be a sort of leader, but nobody really knows who that person actually is. Is there ill-intent? Do we think we're just curious what you think about? How does this compare to other colts? I think hugh and on is a fit a the only thing that doesn't fit as what you just mentioned that there is no. Identified absolute leader who is Q. is q a a single individual collective. We don't know, but it seems to me that the other two criteria that is the use of intensive focused indoctrination is evident and the way in which people that get involved in Cunanan kind of cocoon themselves online and become a submerged in a sub culture. If that reinforces the conspiracy theories promoted by Cunanan and then finally the damage that's being done to people. To their lives to their families to relationships to careers That is definitely ongoing. So I would say two out of three of the of the of the of the three core criteria are are evident in my opinion, and in addition to that whoever is posing behind the facade of q anonymous is it that leader is the driving force and defining element of this movement, and therefore, it could be seen easily as a destructive cult. So how does a deprogramming session work? Well, basically, the first thing that you must do is unplug. So the person who is consumed with with Cunanan who has been a it pulled into it and submerged in that subculture, they need to get offline they need to put their electronic devices away there needs to be an understanding and agreement that they will not a doc to doc in check in to be recharged, and once you can get them to take a break and then you would want to engage with them in a discussion in a dialogue about your concerns and a typical intervention I mean a formal intervention or what has. been called deprogramming is is staged in much the same way as a drug or alcohol intervention. A family members loved ones get together as a team. They bring in perhaps facilitator like me or someone else that is professional trusted by the family, and then you begin this process of targeting through what the families concerns are, how these three core criteria apply to this group, and then you then you break it down even further and you start talking in detail about what is thought reform what is coercive persuasion What is information control? How does it work? How does it affect people and how might apply to this group that you're in? And then you also want to talk to them about facts that they may not know about the group that the group has deliberately concealed from them and in what you're hoping for is that as they become more informed, they can make a more informed decision about their continuation in the group, and then finally you're going to go around the room and the family is going to talk and they're going to say, look, these are the reasons that we did this the these are the things that we saw in your. Behavior in your life that caused us to be concerned enough to stage an intervention and at at the end, which you're hoping is that they're going to give you some kind of commitment about taking a vacation from the group not texting with the other people in the group on not skyping with them not following them online a through some social media platform and giving an arrest taking a break so that they can reflect think independently and maybe do some independent research about this group and the phenomenon that they've been consumed by. have. You deprogrammed followers, Rick. Not Face to face I've communicated with them quite a bit because a number of them are trolling. The Cult Education Institute facebook page. They're they're commenting they're emailing me because I have been posting links to stories about non, which is part of my work. So I have the had calls I've I've emailed with people affected by this phenomenon, and it's the same complaints that I receive about destructive cults that people have heard of for example, the Unification Church or or or the Waco Davidians or or for that matter dare I say the s word scientology and so so people that communicate with me talk about the same kind of things that their loved one has become a obsessed that their their conversation is peppered with a kind of inside jargon typically thought terminating cliches. Memorized by people in the group and that ultimately they're worried about them because their life has been disrupted because they're becoming increasingly isolated and they're not communicating as much with with family and old friends and whenever they're discussing their ideas, their conspiracy theories, they become a really pretty furious if you disagree with them and then often cut people off going back to the tactics. The first thing you mentioned was you need to get them to unplug but. I feel like that alone is so difficult. How can people even convince these believers to Unplug in in my book? There's a I explain to people how to prepare for an intervention and how to choose people to be there what you wants to stage a kind of surprise it. You're not going to invite someone to an intervention say, Hey, you know show up at my house at four and we're going to do an intervention. So they they draw they drop by. And you've you've created some excuse for that and they come in and they're sitting in the room wading are some people that they really care about people that they respect and you carefully pick those people. It could be parents it could be a mentor, it could be a sibling. It could be a spouse. Those people will then persuade that individual to stay in continue talking we just spoke with guest awhile ago who was explaining that her husband was involved in Q. and we talked about the idea of intervening and she explained to us that other members of his family close members of his family. I believe parents or siblings in such were also into Q. and so do you have any advice for a situation like that where you can't bring the close family together because they are in the cult? As well, well, that makes it a lot tougher and what you would have to do in a situation like that is just work with the spouse and then the wife would have to pick people outside of the family that her husband respects admires cares about that could be persuasive in the intervention because if if the person you're working with stands up and says, look, I've had it I'm not talking with you anymore about this I'm leaving now you have to have people in the room that can say, Hey, wait a minute. You just wait a minute I care about you I. Love You. I'm worried about you. Would you do it for me? Would you do it because I, care. This much. Let's talk this through because it means something for me. Even if you don't think it means anything to you and certainly you don't want the parents there if they're involved also and you would even ask the husband not to communicate with the parents during the three or four consecutive days that you might stage intervention how successful our interventions about seven out of ten. People that I work with will decide to take a break or a quite, honestly leave the group at the end of the intervention Some of the people will get a lot of information and it may be a delayed reaction. It may be a month later it may be six months later and that may pop up in their heads and they may think wait a minute isn't that What like what what we discussed in that intervention thing and you view cure nonbelievers more or less difficult than any other believers and things in terms of deprogramming in my experience dealing with the community of Cunanan so far they seem very angry, very hostile, very likely to storm out of an intervention. Do you have advice or tactics for handling that? Are you developing new methodology based on? This I think again, the beginning of helping somebody is just to persuade them to unplug. But having said that I'm going to preface it by saying this, you may decide look I can handle an intervention. My spouse's family is involved in this. So what am I gonNA? Do I feel like intervention is not an option for me so then what you're going to do is basically coping strategies. Which? I devoted a chapter to that in my book as well, which is basically learning how to navigate through this kind of mess that someone you care about is involved in. So if they confront you if they if they're preaching their conspiracy theories to you, you have to know how to handle it. So you would say, well, can you email me some? Links about that. I'll look into it You don't necessarily reject them entirely out of hand. You don't confront them with your feelings about Cunanan. But instead what you do is say well, I'm going to look at the length, send me some links to where those videos are on Youtube, and where some of those articles are that you wanNA share with me. And I'll look at it and then when they press you, you may say, well, I don't necessarily agree with everything but I want you to know that I care about you and then I'm here for you and that your friendship or your relationship means everything to me and so you WanNa keep that line of communication going and you don't want to engage in. Name calling. You don't WanNa tell him. Oh, you're in a cult or you're brainwashed or why don't you just stop getting into all that stuff online? It's it's it's just rubbish if you talk like that, they're more likely to cut you off and further isolate and embed themselves in this kind of alternate universe. Are there some things to look out for signs? And people that we love. If we're no