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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

The Meb Faber Show

08:37 min | 3 months ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

"On the company side. I think the remote working is super fascinating. Where no longer are you anchored to wear your office. Headquarters are in. I think it'll evolve into a hybrid situation as kind of the default. Because i miss everybody. I work with just seeing them in person in the ad hoc lunches conversations discussions ideas. That kind of organically happened in the office. But those don't happen every single day so having that that kind of freedom to be where you want to be a lot of time and then the opportunity or the option to go and spend time in person is pretty frigging liberating because historically you literally had to live within commuting distance to where your office is in. That's kind of anger to people's lives so few lemonade. That's huge anchor. It's just a interesting way to have people live their lives. They can live where they want traveled to where they need to be so. That's kind of a maybe a silver lining -able this what role does kinda this evolving technology play. You mentioned or hinted at earlier in the discussion. That there's lots of different mediums. It's not just what people think of billboards and if anyone who grew up in the south i was trying to remember my icon ick billboards from my youth and if you drive through south carolina there is like i don't exist anymore. There was like a forty mile stretch advertising for like south of the border fireworks and emporium whatever was with his literally every three minutes for an hour or two on ninety five. I don't even remember. It's just burned seared into my memories. Of course we stop there but thing about a conic billboards but also you mentioned a lot of these digital mechanisms at shopping centers at elevators tops of cars. Any other places in in ways this as you kind of look around the corner from your seat which is more involved than most. Where does this sorta industry moving in the next three five ten years in addition to just the traditional billboards yeah. That's a great point one of just recently by a here but we just announced a partnership with a media owner polite box to do in. we work advertising. So what's happening. In general cost of digital sign is consistently decreasing so to have a big bright's smart internet wired digital display is one fifth or less than what it was ten years ago and will only continue to decrease so. There's a book out. There called times where everywhere. Let's a bit being. But i think the point is that it's never been cheaper easier to add sign 'age in different places so that will become a trend where you can hyper target. At nail salons anywhere. people spend time con- areas of apartment. Buildings is another one so the supply and niche supply are becoming more ubiquitous. as i mentioned. It's getting smarter both from an ad serving and then attribution perspective. So those are two one way themes and i think the other thing. That's really interesting is that we all know that. Brick and mortar is sort of slowly. Maybe not dying. But diminishing and what's happening is a lot of install retailers are starting to use their footprints in their consumer traffic where maybe people aren't buying as much because they're using the in store experiences showroom then they'll go home in by it but they're using that in store real estate as advertising so that's another theme that written mortar retailers are becoming hybrid add add companies which interestingly amazon has done at a now very large scale become an advertising company to some extent was smiling. As you're talking about this in my head because there was a great story. And i'm going to murder the specifics but i'm gonna get the generalizations right. Where guy was looking to get a job at the specific company and was able to target it on linked in to the actual individual users. Every time he logged in there was an ad targeted directly at the single person. Because you could narrow it by firm and then by demographic and he knew he was. I dunno fifty year old male. But i was laughing at the billboards. To like the one targeting serena and obviously everyone else and giving her out. But it's such a on one hand dystopia another hand kind of amazing ability of technology to and we were kind of going through this. It's really fun to go through your performance a little bit of a rabbit hole where you can play around with all these different permutations of location demographic and time of year to where hopefully We continue this case study for a longtime laptop back on like six months and see how went. But i'm not going to reveal where they are because i want to listeners to actually reach out him this has been a fun journey for you all the agony and ecstasy of being a founder through. Not just normal times but through tough times this year. What's been the most memorable moment and there are so many this year in particular overall anything overall the whole journey. Good or bad. Wow that's a tough one because there so many hotels sides that that my mind is racing. I think the first customer is always pretty memorable and then there are certain drexel's and benchmarks that are really cool. Our first million dollar campaign was with peleton. That was really like holy shit. This is getting there. This is happening. Yes seeing things like gee moat campaign in people that's great then honestly is just getting to work with really smart people who have this year in particular like the kind of grittiness and fortitude of people has come to the forefront. It's kinda easier to when things are going. Well yeah you don't really see that side of things because it's not required of people but it's been really kind of not exciting. I'd say but more heartwarming and awesome deceive a team. Just kinda deal with one of the crazier koerbels that any of us can imagine this year. So that's kind of an ongoing thing but something in this year in particular. I'm really proud about same question. Applied to your own investments over time. Anything that's been particularly memorable could be good. It could be bad. Stocks could be anything else also shared one. I guess it's kind of a brag but self slate. I don't do much investing. But i follow trends one day. I'll have some money to invest. But i went on a trip with kind of a diverse age set of people and i follow bitcoin for awhile. I just think at its fundamentals. It's what a lot of. Purists are really wanting to explain or kind of go to back for bitcoin year but it's a hedge against inflation money printing that has gone rampant in a number of countries. Us pretty insulated from that. But if you talked your argentinean or many other countries who have seen their paper money become worthless you kind gotta get it anyway said this on this trip and just got a. Bitcoin came up in the stodgy archaic reaction of the older group of how they didn't believe it. It just reminded me of exactly everything kind of the hater said about the internet. So i put a disproportionate in probably irresponsible amount of my minimal networth into bitcoin back when it was a couple hundred bucks and that's obviously turned out well and there was also coin. Base has really Others now but there's also this really interesting. It actually ties back into adequate but at the time it was a huge process. Even buy bitcoin. Now you can sign up on robin hood or joint base in by instantly but that was actually part of the excite or a. I felt like there was. It was hard to buy now and it's going to become easier like bats a buying signal to me so i went through the process of setting up a wallet.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

The Meb Faber Show

02:33 min | 3 months ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

"Take much time so that's pretty cool. You guys been growing. This is an obvious approach to very inefficient market. Long comes twenty twenty. And i imagine that twenty twenty is probably a huge can the not style or advertising if our guns locked in their basement and bedrooms walk us through twenty nineteen twenty twenty. What the last year's been like we still have a month ago. We're recording this in december. So i don't know what's left in the final weeks of the year but Tell us what the last year's been like yeah. Eight is been startups or a roller coaster as is and then i guess we just added some g forces to our roller coaster. Coming into the year we had just raised another round of funding. Basically everything was going spectacular. We're up over three hundred percent year-over-year literally through the end of february and march shades. Shelter in place. People are not going out. So i think the advertising world in general hits pause and then when you're medium is predicated on people moving out about honoring the basis real world impressions. Of course that is one of the hardest hit channels so it was a crazy time. We definitely had to adjust very quickly from. Hey we just raise capital and we want to scale across the board headcount acquisition etc. We had to go into more of a. Hey we just need a weather this storm and try to get to the other side and i can't believe we're talking in december and it's still a very real pandemic we were lucky in a few ways one is that we are a partially remote company. And we've now gone fully remote and so from the productivity side on think we were as affected as a lot of companies. The second big thing for us is that it's really changed the way. Advertisers are looking at the industry. A lot of advertisers used to plan twelve of eighteen months out in the future. I've got my approach. And i just rinse and repeat and if it's pretty inefficient and i'm not getting maybe the best billboards or overall campaign. I don't really care. That's been totally eliminated so our platform allows companies to say. Hey.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

The Meb Faber Show

06:15 min | 3 months ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

"Allergy company can show their ads. That's hyper relevant at that particular point in time. So you inject any dynamic data source. Sports scores stock prices health issues. Covid things like that. Allow you to show your ad in the right places at the exact right time with this. Really kind of powerful context for full disclosure a tiny investor company and. We're also running a small case. Study pilot right now so listeners. If you see any campbell billboards floating around me shouted make sure they actually exist in the real world. That's probably january. I think talked to gabe. He's been handling our account with my people so be fun to see. We'll have clear segment steady deep dive. Yeah yeah because it's so obvious. To how you can customize this and related tangent to is when i was driving the four or five. I remember seeing a couple of blank billboards and was thinking about that. Just seems like wasted opportunity that space. That should be getting monetize. But it's not fair amount of onions inventory in the space. It seems like that would be something that software could easily make a more efficient. Yeah absolutely so. The industry average is that there's about thirty to forty percent under utilization and that was just to go back to the story. We touched on one of the pieces. I admitted. Is that a wedding in new orleans. I was in texas visiting a distribution center. While i was still at amazon and ended up doing the drive from houston to new orleans that weekend throughout i was just seeing repetitious vacant billboards with someone. Eight hundred number that. Nobody's possibly gonna remember as driving by so i was telling my the grew at the time man. There's such a disconnect. The customer experiences bad the media owners have no software that they're able to list their inventory on mostly running it with as you said. The yellow pads excel data in. I was just kinda telling you about the concept and he was like well. My brother knows this guy needs to be headed. Cbs outdoor while kelly. He could probably get you a meeting with him. So before i left amazon i flew down to phoenix where this guy wasn't so he was head of one of the largest media companies in the world. Really it's now out front. And i kinda explain the concept him and he said there's nothing foundationally that doesn't work about this and if you can build what you say you can bill. I think it has a lot of legs. And so just tying back to the supply siders that runs at very high vacancy rates yet. There's no discover ability from the demand side. Like how would an advertiser no. These allegations are available. So there's a big disconnect that we're trying to help fix and yet the end state is that we help media. Owners increase their fill rate in how advertisers find underutilized location so relieved we hope to people use the term disrupt probably over use it but i like to think that we can kind of erupts. The industry by really making a lot more liquid in helping everybody involved in the industry. Yeah the nice thing for me listeners. Know that i'm a total cheap bastards so the prospect of the unused inventory is incredibly appealing to me. Because i like the idea of saying look. We'll stand by to monthly whatever you guys have. That's just like the target sale of billboards and almost like algorithm mickley. Just run us whenever it gets too low. Where like the bottom feeders of the detritus at the bottom. But that makes sense. I mean that's the way it marketplace should work is that you want to have a supply demand balance rather than just unused not optimal sort of scenario on good new software. Can do that tells the serena story because i think that's a fascinating idea of how i was joking the other day because we ll as investment company we get a lot of spam outreach from people locally. The one us to advertise whether it's by lakers. Tickets or put your name on a bench at the local mini golf course and i was smiling. Because exactly what you're talking about. You could target so specifically a place and time with these billboards. Tell us the story. Yes so after three hundred sixty time off from tennis. Her first tournament back was at indian wells in palm springs in so alexis as a present in. Welcome back message to serena. Got a series of five or six sequential. I guess it would be sequential. Billboards with the acronym g moat greatest mother of all time so she had just come back from having a child olympia and it was a really cool romantic. I suppose gesture. Billboards often get called romantic. But i think this one qualified and so elections went into the platform in use kind of a pro version for all the marketers out there. Outdoor advertising bay can be in a row. And that's a really memorable way to do. Advertising is tele message along a route in he did it picked up by a bunch outlets Got some cool drone footage of lie in still happily married. So i think that was gonna laugh as say making incredibly endearing and lovely message making other husbands look terrible across the country at the same time exactly. Yeah the bar is too high on that front. But that is kind of a micro example. We're starting to see people wishing their kids happy birthday on digital in. That's pretty cool where you can put a message out to the real world. Low cost with low overhead meaning. Just doesn't.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

The Meb Faber Show

03:05 min | 3 months ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

"And taking just below the second bid to make more money i mean. They're publicly traded companies. That's what they're gonna do. So the opportunity cost or spending online or becoming greater and we're seeing an influx of brian's looking for other reach avenues in kind. The arbitrage of out of home is still there so that's one of the things that were helping companies do so for the listeners. Who are hearing is whether it's a top media buyer just your local law who advertise. Give some context around cost. Like what does it even mean to cause. And there's been some fun even individualized stories like tim. Ferriss got these billboards in new york. You have a great one involving serena williams where people get straight up personalized billboard for your very specific use case or need time to maybe tell us the story but also help us with some ballpark ideas on cost. I know it's totally variable if you're in tulsa l. a. but in general guardrails how to think about cost of working on this platform. Yeah i think the most blanket statement his kind of from the cpm's four dollar national average bpm as low as a dollar in second third fourth tier markets aben as high as hundreds of dollars. Cpm on sunset boulevard lincoln tunnel in new york city in the one. Oh one in san francisco those are where just supplying man very limited supplying those markets and every fortune one thousand brand would love to be in those areas because it's very premier so there's a lot of analogies to real estate in at home. A lot of the publicly traded companies are actually reached. So there's a lot of variability and then kind of trends with pretty high correlation to real estate prices. I would bet. I haven't run those numbers but in you can get billboards in different parts of the company for a couple of hundred bucks for four weeks and then as you reference would pretty exciting one of the more dynamic trends in the out of home industry is what's happening with digital out of home programmatic where you can buy real relavent housing digital screens or an hour a day a particular day a week. So if you're wendy's launching your new breakfast campaign you can only show from a to eleven. Am rather than historically you need to book entirety of or week land in even further back some billboards early sold in twelve months. Increments so those time frames are shrinking increasing. The transactional blasted so. That's a macro trend helpful to a software platform. And then the other exciting thing on the programmatic side is that you can use actual real world context to show dynamic creatives ad hoc so one example of that would be if pollen counts are super high in austin flonaise or some.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

The Meb Faber Show

06:45 min | 3 months ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

"Awareness further. They don't know out of home. They love technology. They buy all their other ads through platforms so they were the perfect fit for us and it took us about twelve months to realize and find our initial customer profiles kind of the the term for that. But i think it's inevitable that you're not going to start a company with a perfect. The good thing about having the kind of smaller self service customers early on that gave us some low states way to build the product hear from customers in so it wasn't all for naught but it definitely felt like a little bit of delayed time to find that that initial wheelhouse so for the people listening you have the digital world which is newer and as very clear metrics. You can see click something you can see who did some sort action. Although to be clear we've been doing digital experimenting with digital ads this year. And if you wanna see what. I'm talking about you can go to our company's cambria twitter feed and see the replies to some of ours in. It's like half of it's just korean. K pop people posting gifts so the engagement numbers are what they are. How much of that is real. And how much of it is botts but goes go back to the old school. You know billboards have been around for decades wise this outta home attractive to advertisers. Is this an opportunity for tracking the effectiveness. Because the way i think about it. My head is billboards on the four or five riot on the or five yesterday and saw cannabis one and one for cars and gambling. Whatever it may be but it's unclear how people track that duck me about the industry in general and weedon specifics as to what you guys are approaching this from a value. Add sort of analogy. Yes so i'll kind of start in the linear flow of the ad process. So the first part is that there are thousands of media owners in the country with differing footprints. Some have billboards. Some have in elevator ads. In doctor's office taxi tops panoply of different media types across different media owners so actually fragmented on that front and then you layer on top of that if any advertisers buying it scale. They're going to want to have multiple suppliers involved in that campaign for the optimal output. So these very by media type demographic cost etc so add quick platform allows brands to really build the optimal game pain agnostic to media owner. Because it's no more work to get Inventory access in and you get all that selection so Areas like expedia for outdoor advertising on the one hand. So once you've found your perfect combination of media locations. In just for context there are millions of different locations so if you're buying to single locations there immediately trillion combinations so this is something that software needs to be doing not individuals and people with no data. So that's where the industry's going. And that's where i think we're will position then once you buy your outdoor advertising campaign out there. Advertising is pretty interesting because there are a dozen outputs dad. A company might look to be driving. They break down into three main buckets. Upper funnel things like brand awareness middle funnel. Which would be things like site. Traffic or performance marketing. Kpi's and lower funnel which would be things like app downloads or conversions on the side or an in store purchase so based on real world movement and location data sets like the free app. Economy runs on this. There's lots of companies that get data from smartphones. That basically in a nutshell allows the tie a med. You pass that billboard for that car. And then within thirty days you went to a toyota dealership. Now it's not. Every single person but outdoor advertising is a very high scale medium even small campaigns are reaching millions of people so if on a basis of million impressions you have one percent of that data. It's pretty statistically significant as to what that sample is doing that you can extrapolate out to the entirety of the campaigns. Tell did this person go to a physical location. Did this person download an app. Did this person go to our website. Later on in buyer product in with real world movement and location data sets and the opportunity or people to interact directly from their phone more immediately than they had been say ten years ago. We can really tie that attribution loop together more closely than it's ever been done in. That's kind of the holy grail for advertising. Marketing is i spent x. dollar Outputs in historically without of home. It's always been a mass reach. It's always been a brand play. We're moving more into the direct response attribution bucket where you're actually going to get to know what people are doing after they're exposed to your ads and then on top of that. We can also do what demographics. Respond the best. Let's say you include five markets or five different media types which of those markets are media types or performing best or the outcome that you're looking to drive so basically injecting intelligence around attribution throughout the process. So maybe talk about little Who's some of the most effective case. Study doesn't have to be specific to you guys but it could be broadly speaking of people. You think that have done. Billboards really effectively. Well whether it's a specific company or specific sort of vertical and if someone's listening how could they think about instead of just flushing money down the toilet. What would be a good approach to this whole sort of advertising medium so one of the things that spin a growing trend in the industry is that dc companies are using out of home disproportionately to kinda their counterpart companies. The older school company. So i think what the dc companies realizes that one out of home is the lowest.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

The Meb Faber Show

03:33 min | 3 months ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

"Going on in the legal world so during that time i also started a couple things that really kinda gave me the entrepreneurial exposure i'd say was a charity bike ride. I mean it's super small and simple but taking something from an idea to actually running it in the real world was a really amazing experience in hannah. Something that i got a little bit addicted to. I ended up going darn as you said because when i started to do think about more business related ventures i realized i didn't know much of the xs and os that was political science at notre dame and so i really thought that for me in particular business. School was a good idea. I think for most people. It's actually not a good idea especially now go work at a tech company or startup or a business where you're gonna actually be able to do those things. But a left. The paralegal jobs went to uva. During business school. I tried to start a company called footprint free. The basic idea was that we would be a turnkey way for businesses to offset their carbon footprint. They would do something good for the environment. Also have a marketing differentiator. Where if you're choosing between three places to get dinner and one of them is footprint free. A lot of consumers would go to that location that is environmentally conscious. We couldn't get to scale but we did get to some customers in. I have that ride but realized it wasn't gonna scale because chains and corporate restaurants. Which was the idea was to get to scale where. It's a input to where you patronize. Because you wanna make sure that your dry cleaner or restaurant or whatever. Other business is part of this movement because corporations in chains were hesitant to commit a loved the idea that they were worried about rewatching basically buying indulgences like. Hey we're going to have this big carbon footprint we're just gonna paid set it so they were kind of paralyzed by that choice and so going mom and pop to mom and pop to scale was not something that i really wanted to do. So it was a really cool learning experience and so out of business school once. I decided to put footprint free pasture. I wanted to join a company that was at kind of good idea was part of scaling. So i had taken something from concept to a little bit of revenue in that wanted to learn about how to scale company so really fortunate to have studied a grocery delivery last mile case study wild. Darden restarted relay foods uva founded company and really actually learned about how the last mile is a killer for these logistics companies. In at the time instacart had raised its series White combinator and they were not eliminating but minimizing the last mile problem by using the now ubiquitous independent contractor scalable delivery solution so i ended up taking a job with them when it was a pretty small company in about fifteen to twenty people. December of twenty thirteen in that was.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

09:53 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Not wearing headsets. You can't hear this I I know that one so I'm hearing all right there. You go good job Thanks to appreciate it so it looks like you said somebody pulled the fire alarm. And it's pletcher and Baffert. There's just it's it's great. It's it's It's a good thing for them to show up in his funny. I just got a call from Gary Young and We're talking quickly about the film situation. Basically had you gotta film the Bengals. But they're wanted twelve Ted Pick up a few things at least save that for the ravens or something like that but we were. We were cracking up about that. So Patriot land Michael talks are playing as well as maybe panic going on. Too many tears flowing around either no hard to part two in the Boston area. Hard motivate Much sympathy on that front. I am at my complaint. We're not my complaint but my my suggestion With all these patriots having grown up in Hartford area in Hartford area and our family. My father's company I Hartford had They had had season tickets at Schaefer Stadium. And just by the fact that I'm saying Schaefer Stadium. You give you an idea of of how far back and the guy in the helmet helmet hiking the ball with absolutely and my my quiz for any patriot. Fan I'm a patriot. Fan Really okay Steve Grogan was ever go to Gino's If they don't know if they don't know Gino says they're not a Patriot fan and don't i. I don't WanNa hear I've been following the patriots forever Sham Cunningham Obama's fabulous. That's a great one but but And and why why is not been another Sam Cunningham in the fact how we used to jump over the pile. You just don't see that anymore right. And and who was there was a steeler. You had that that that that that was a that was a leaper over Not In not in like Sam and and of course I grew up in southern California watching him play at USC and we went to many games there so he was. You Know Sam. The Bam was good. The Patriots were quite in that in weren't as hated or they were they were. They were just. They felt sorry for like the Buffalo Bills. They were just just a franchise while the bills had their sheriff success again. Good to see the bills coming back into in action ex and so we'll see what they're made of coming up on Sunday night which just flex that game. Oh Sarah late. The bill steeler game which three or four weeks ago looked like a a whole Hummer and now how suddenly suddenly it's Scott's little wildcard aspiration for the eight unaided five steelers of Believable well you know a quick aside ride we touched on it could we yesterday. I can't even remember we talked about the TACO tour but we didn't talk about the Eagles and He's fine remember. Remember when I remember I said to you one point I said I said they just made it seventeen ten in there I i. When they scored that touchdown? That's why I waved my phone at you and I said they're They're they're coming in the right direction direction. That was That was okay. Well needless to say the places that we went for a to enjoy our Mexican TACO Burrito tour didn't have you know so we were St was phoning it there we were. We were watching Watching every other play on the phone and and would have been very rough off a bit of a rough evening. Had the Eli Manning Giants Eagles. The Eagles are control of the division. Now well this just went out there to win they got no personality. And everybody's paying but it still it was it was a it was a funny i. I did not fall asleep for quite a while. Actually that's the one. That's the one rob on those those those night games that You know you end up you you sound like it's not like you just immediately lay down and go to sleep. Well now when you're teams by your now the Buzzer and overtime. Exactly exactly right heading back this afternoon. I can't stay in fact. Let's try. Let me try now. We didn't get to Pete in in that first hour like we were supposed to and he I think he thought he said that he was only available elbow till ten. But let me let me go back and check yet nine to ten. And where's Marshall and the and J K. They walk by here a little bit I. I'm not sure but we We had we had a good discussion. Marshall Marshall and and J K and Patna Anaya last night. So it's going to be very conversational as well. It's great when you know these guys know each other and we've picking on a few topics we're gonNA talk about and we're not going to go too. Deep with with the Horse player deal. TAKEOUT is obviously one of the subjects that we go around circles. And nothing's GonNa get done and we're going to try and pick on a few a few topics out there that That can be done and should be done and let me just make it a more aware the weeds over and over and over that that this is the this is the these are the people put food on the table for everybody at this convention whether they're selling H H rt machines over here amp tone over here or are you and I sitting here talking on the radio there. The horse players. What is the end is? What fuels does the engine so we just tried to get it to get it across the some of the some of the tracks at these people need to be more involved than needs to be consulted on things? I and you know if you make it more interesting for them and more distinct for for the average player they're going to bat more and things are going to roll along a little bit better and I I know I know I've seen it myself. There were many taxes you said have gone. Gone the extra step and Santa Anita newly-created the Eddie Logan Room. There and Santa has become the contest place of Of the world. I mean at least in the country here because of the way the treated the fan the better. I mean they're very comfortable. They have their own area. You know there's a cocktail. If they won they get a burger if they want. It's just a friendly situation and I know other tracks have followed followed suit in that in that way which is good and that's a start but to to to not include them When they're putting their application into the into the commission which includes I mean you have to put everything in there including the betting menu? You know two dollars win place and show and try fact it is and and there's some other bets out there that we're GonNa talk about this afternoon. Everything being a fifty cent minimum of course. It's grading concludes. Everybody but you know. There's maybe there's a bad out there with a with a little bit higher higher minimum. Well that's something that both Jonathan. Jonathan has talked about it. Paul Matisse who is consulting the Breeders Cup and trying to incorporate some of those conditional bats in the head to head concepts and some of the original The original concepts that can you know could enhance the betting menu. They're they're trying to. They're trying to come up with some original originally and to get some tracks. Take a shot. And what's great about these guys Mantra Paul and Duke and Jonathan. These guys I mean yeah. They played a different level than you. And I do. But they're so they're so willing to share their knowledge their show willing to share their knowledge with with with others not just on their level. They you want to dollar better. They want the they want. They want to teach it and they want they want the not only. Do we want to get new people but we want to maintain the guys we have and and someone just sat down here who I who I spoke about earlier this morning. Yeah perfect timing. I don't know what you did. We're GONNA find out. Put the microphone onto the headset on. Anyway Gregory Peck. I told you yesterday One of the one of the kind of want to call non racing Titles that are here. I went into to sit through Mr Pex Media Class. I want to call it a class. Because because what he did there and I was telling I was telling Steve early in the audience early. I looked around the room and I didn't see too many track. Operators in there are people that I was hoping. We're going to be in there. But he put on some mock interviews and tried to try to tell people in and teach us how to react to the press research being interviewed and you know down to posture and and looking in the eye. And maybe how to deflect question how to attack a question that that was meant to You know to get out of negative response for you. So I mean here at Greg's or just sat down here and and maybe you can tell us about your experience of that but This is what he does us for living and I know I walked away with a few little tidbits. Got Your little thing right here. State support illustrate and restate so Areas right right here unscripted but I mean even be. Give a few tidbits of what you do and what you what you what you did yesterday..

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:50 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:12 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Security of course in case you doesn't win. There should be an investigation at this point. I mean there's two Sherry well put I love it. Good job said this was tremendous. I appreciate it and we'll I appreciate the insights toward young people and not even they don't have to be young young they can be any age to get involved in the game and having in on the bloodstock side. Yeah great thanks so much said Fernando everybody work thoroughbred consultants. We'll take a break here. Top of the Hour Matt O'Connor is well. Congratulations on on on graduating here. And we'll look forward to senior Florida. Thank you appreciate. What what? What's the barn colors? What what's your attack of Red Navy Blue White Red Navy blue and white? We have website up and be O'Connor racing chew here. Let's let's get let's give everybody the Let's give everybody all that information. Go ahead say it again. It's O'Connor racing dot com nice ace. We'll get we'll pull up the website and then for those that In terms of following you on twitter it's also and also connor racing that's that's smart and Looking forward looking forward to getting saddled in that first winter absolutely and it'll come soon appreciate you Kamya not at all mad at a pleasure. Let's take a break. We'll come right back hammer GONNA sit in we've got I think visit coming up with Joe Longo and Michael Dickinson disappeared. I was GONNA Dickinson down Because I wanted to kind of Fill out the second half of some of the things that we discussed yesterday today in our session but baffert and and pletcher are holding. Everybody captivated in the in the big in the big room back to two two sides. We've only got about forty five minutes left unbelievable back after this.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

04:24 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Know this is an important preservation reservation of a very important bloodlines and That's why that's one reason why I always take away enjoy. Ah Great success as well. It should also mention that Out of the rim sin that that late run that is your we'd put in for Kirin McLaughlin and For Shad well. This is a curling out of a mayor and felt like he's oars. I that you know when when they circle back around next March-april back to mile and an eighth and beyond that that he's a a series areas Horse Karen delighted with that run. And it's funny because Jerry. Maguire absolutely acknowledged That you know the the the wire came up in time for for shots as a as a turned up but he you know he also had run every step To to win and says it had you know had pretty much got him there but I thought I should we good signed for curling. Who who had his who had his nice run of Of Classic sick placements stopped. Yeah this year. So he'll he'll get by this year right that's right. It had one every year until this year exactly exactly and said finally to For for Gary West and Ben Glass and the team maximum securities performance. Just a a a real exclamation point on on on a remarkable year for any three year. Old he he. He's got people that seem to root against him irrationally Donnelly and all does go out and he runs. It's funny. He runs every race kind of the same at doesn't matter what this if he's he's going through right he he just he takes control and he can he can rate he can got him he can. He turns horses back and then any finishes at at whatever configuration. He's running and I did see some people who grudgingly this. It seems admitted committed. You know this is a really good horse. And and some of the knockers kind of Acknowledged that that you know. He has earned himself the three year old championship. Yeah really good point and and one adjunct to that I might add is that I was talking to Gary West on Sunday and headed back. And I said you know Gary off the top of my head. I can't recall another owner if maximum security debt end up Wayne three-year-old word. I said I cannot think off the top of my head of another owner that would have won three consecutive eclipse awards between consecutive freak difference runner. Two thousand seventeen three-year-old championship with west coast. Two Thousand Eighteen year old championship game winner and then if he wins this year maximum security two thousand nine hundred ninety three year old championship with maximum security. That's one heck doc. It's true it's true and Baffert Earlier and we didn't get into that conversation we talked more about the his origins Zhen's here at at University of Arizona and growing up in Nogales south of here but BAFFERT racking up that kind of those kinds of plots when it came to the West Coast arrogate and justify trainer brainer bat backwards coming up quite as an owner. That's a great point and I can't think of an owner winning three consecutive the awards with three different course which is which is kind of phenomenal If that ends up being if maximum.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

01:43 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"What it is right. NAPPING twelve five well this year already shot ski winning the Revson he also had the Philly That was third. The there was the Philly blamed Debbie was third in in the In the Demo Zell Alon draw who did not run well and I'm sure I'm sure was disappointed. Because he certainly last week when we talked to him going in he was really scion her chances. But Alon Gra was third in the also bite so grade one place and there's also There's also the neely Philly abscond. So he's got four. There's right there. There's four graded rated stake winners and graded stakes placed runners. She wanted she won that state. woodbine right this fall. I kinda root for blame. I know from pedigree part of it see you know. He's that rare revert Weinstein still At the forefront in this country and for the sake of you know diversity of worth You know he's he's by arch and Dad. You look around you know. It's it's tough to find him because because you know diner former has died and he's only got a few sons That are operating and just one or two on their way up so You.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

04:13 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Relationship with these extremely rewarding because my my relationship disagree on was months. We weren't relationships. I've had in my life so much so that Steve when my sons were My entire family since you myself to board two boys we we take trips to visit at his out and have lunch with Leon on the burner and you know it was it was It transcended raking just really great professional. I mean a personal alteration chip. Sure sure and that's That that's the best kind of of mentorship. There's no doubt LemMe Spend a couple minutes to have said and fold in Particularly the juvenile weekend action. I was at low Sal Al and you know certainly bast winning the starlet the grade one And thousand words the grade. Two in the futurity the you know a and a and a pioneer of the Nile and even Lake Avenue winning the Demo Zahle the Tapa Daughter but I thought that The results in Maryland. I need to be noted and also shot skis performance as a as a blame son Nice for the blame to get a juvenile like this early and It feels like something's happening with Golden Lad and and. I don't know if you heard a Brittany Russell on on Monday. Also well you McMahon and McMahon We didn't talk to you but We talk to Oh my gosh to Jerry O'Dwyer But they were on their way to. Tony Britney talked about Golden Golden Lad. And how impressed she is and it feels like the you know getting to juvenile winners in Maryland. Fury's that that somebody should take notice The Golden Lad Brittany basically said that that she she feels that that he's red hot and coming in WHO's under the radar? nope he was under my raider to which is which is You know what I can't say but frequently you know you get to work. And I mean he's five medallion Euro Either you get those type of horses that we've seen come out of Maryland. V sources be required to North You From the provinces you're liable to get any any type of My father's Kentucky sure you're you're liable to get any any any type of wars. That has that tap great pedigree and some some Matrix to it Golden Lad with the G. Three winner but He's essentially medallion Oreo. And he's out of cheating. Go mayor you know he's Has the potential to be Any any kind. I mean this. This is the kind of stuff that Polish number words The bear the California chrome was his name. Mr prospector whereas breath to You know big Maryland. Barry asked looking up here I'm like you know the big Big Bachelot Salat absolutely. Yeah you know so.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

03:05 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"On the spot. And you're GONNA have to you know take case for for what you feel if you want to influence Something I if you have a strong strong feel about something Pedigree we're you was was Steve Haskins talked about it. And I know you overlapped with Steve but was Charlie Hatton still there and alive When you when you started artist no no you much earlier because he was the librarian you know? He was librarian before he became a writer. In fact Steve Only became a right after I was there remember that he was a librarian. Who did writing for other publications right right but not for the daily for I know? Now it's interesting about that. Yeah well he he has. His story is is similar to because he you know he had an interesting he he loved the races but he got interested in and had the same kind of of of origin too and then got He he spent about ten minutes as a stockbroker and training. And and then you know the grouse. Stark and an interest in Grou- starks career. It got him Got Him a job in the library. That that's how he the up latching onto it. You know it. I've said this before. There's so many avenues to of of entree into the game and You know what's funny said that that there's this trope out there about nepotism awesome in the game and it's kind of funny. I mean I certainly know people who've been born into it or had you know had family ties but I know way more people people like like you be that that came from they have no ties whatsoever. Just Kinda came came to it because is it was interesting to us and we enjoyed it. As you know we of curiosity I I don't I don't yeah. Yeah that's true. I mean you know I was just thinking about it You know when I was growing up and really develop a huge interest in racing the seventies it really Louis stem from my interest in baseball. Because you get the sports section you start reading the box scores and you know I I just back then. They published the chart in the regular paper. So then you start reading. You know you flip through your reading. The baseball chart are you reading the Raziq Charts and raising coverage. You know they had the articles and whatnot so It's interesting because they don't have that in tapers anymore and so have have the baseball boxers..

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

01:44 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"More to the equation and actually being advised. If that's what you're interested in so In terms of that I would. Would you suggested which is learn three and slowly sir get into it and You know you'll be able to Pick things up quickly and Hopefully you get the right opportunity and and You know there's no magic bullet for that I. I don't know if I've ever specifically asked you. But when did you latch on to an interest. And what were the the origins of it. Just as a as a teenager growing up at the seventies and as somebody who is heavily the racing in the seventies I just became interested in pedigrees and I don't know if I told you that story but when I was sixteen scene I I just by. I'd just decided that I wanted to discuss some pedigrees with listen and I sent him a letter and I was sixteen and much my surprise he responded and from then onward he and I Entered into long letter writing relationship about pedigree and and You know and then he and I became really good friends.

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

03:06 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"It's great They push themselves in and if they have the talent and a lot of times the opportunity within that whatever organization is given a chance They've been you know quite a few people have I've noticed they. Just you know pretty quickly when a when it comes to pedigree and and you and I have touched on this over the years many times for me. Even though I my original interests came from a being a player and the pedigree side of things and the you know the curiosity it's funny Baffert said being curious about anything in life We'll we'll take you we'll take you in in in a lot of directions but when it came to try and understand pedigree and its application because Ah I thought that there was an obvious correlation understanding it to you know being a better horse player but you know I started reading and I started reading everything Get my hands on. And whether it's books like Ed Bowen's Book Circuitry Arcs and Patriarchs and legacies of the turf. And those books I've talked about W HP Robertson's book that that isn't necessarily pedigree oriented but there's tons of it in there and a lot of those kinds of of of histories histories and then when you when you do searches on the Internet There's all kinds of all kinds of stuff that that is just laying there to be to be read and you know some of it is blind alleys or or stuff that has become hackneyed. Said you know what I mean when we talk about you know dosage it things that have kind of bubbled up as as pseudo. Oh pseudo pedigree science But it it's out there and you just basically you just basically the more you read Eden and the more you you try to absorb the further you go essentially and then. I think it's a matter of just you know reaching out and and the connecting with with people in in the arena that you're interested in it. Yeah I mean when you're talking about you you buying get into the pedigrees fear of things. It's a little more which is a little more rigorous? I mean you've got to study. I mean you really have to get it on. You can't just walk in and start talking because you know pedigree actually Involved quite a bit of knowledge that you need about Sire lines families and so forth and it takes time so I get.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

07:40 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"We're dealing with animals. We're dealing with you know whether we're dealing in all kinds of situations so you try to prepare for everything and then something else comes along so just got to be prepared for the next thing that comes so you always learning if if you're not then then then you're just gonNa fall behind you for you matthew. Matthew O'Connor with us who's going to start his professional training career this winter base the Palmettos the the the physical properties of horses and the that element that we talked about quite a bit with baffert about about identifying stock and the kind of physical properties that that you admire and horse and that you recognize horse talk about that part of it because the the technical aspects of training I mean those. Are you know putting together. A you know putting together a training plan and all that stuff is is technical the feel for looking at a young horse and understanding what it's GonNa grow into. That's a little different and you you can. You can learn the what are the points of the Horse as they're known and the there's that's not an I suppose there there are some people who are naturals at it but by guesses that the vast majority comes from experience experience. And and knowing and we're GONNA talk to sit Fernando shortly understanding sire lines and pedigrees and you know what properties are being absorbed into to a young horse. And you know where they're going to where they're gonNA go talk about how you've you've either developed that the side of it or how you plan to do it because you know obviously in your early twenties it it. It's not going to be something that that is just you know at your disposal instantly So one more mile got into game in two thousand and six. Obviously we you by New Orleans at the time so I spent a lot of time at the Fasi Tipton sale specifically Saratoga bread sale and at the time Chris Brothers pigs of your international bloodstock was buying for us so I spend time looking at who is since I was eight years old progressing through we We linked up with Jimmy Creepy. So so I went around with a little bit. Learn his his side of it and I remember one one year. Maybe two years ago October. That makes sense that they haven't Sarah Jones the fall. Also I had gone through the whole book and I was sitting in the front row with my uncle next to me. Jimmy was behind me and Jimmy. He goes to me. Let me let me see your book. Let me see if you really know what you're talking about. And he takes my book and he's started matching his numbers the numbers that he looked at the mind and he just looked at me. Said Oh you know you're talking about on the right track. That was good and then obviously Nick Zito's bought some great horses stay. There's the core vision or pass you name it. He's he actually gave me a list of the horses. And I've the last two years I went to keeneland. Two years go worked wholesale with him. Pass on a couple of good horses but I mean I learned. Didn't to be the best you have to learn from the best and feel. Oh on the sales side I've taken taking aspects of the best buyers in the United States and implemented into my own plan and training. Wise to I've taken little aspects of the people I've worked for and kind of compiled it and have my own system set up and I feel like it will be successful and I. It's it's again. It's one of those areas that is ever changing and You you see where the introduction of certain stallions and and it's constantly morphing. And you have to be you have to be open to. I'm having a finger on the Paulsen and having a sense of where you know where things are going and and you know who who might be successful next. I mean there's there's so many rolling of so many rolling of the dice that that goes on And it's you know it's a game of risk at every at every step absolutely. I mean at this point obviously. I'm hoping always dreaming takes office. Ira If he doesn't. I'm very high on gunrunning being from and that Saint Louis and see what he does but out of all quote unquote new tires out there. The last two years I feel gunrunner has the best chance. They'll certainly certainly getting getting a Janssen lab have got a terrific terrific book of Mares. We'll actually talk to and I want to explain how how he is seeing young people come min and not so much on the training side at what what struck me last year was the the first I able. I guess right. It was the first of the students in in five years of doing these conversations and and meeting kids. He was the first one that that was interested. Justed directly in in the bloodstock trade and hadn't really occurred to me that that there wasn't necessarily that avenue immediately at the not at the disposal. I mean. Certainly it's out there for for the kids to pursue but it it I hadn't thought about you know how how. How does somebody move into that arena to tell you when I went to school here Algi was? I didn't grow up in a racing family or anything like that. I came literally came from the grandstand and to the program. And you know did the deal and remember sitting around a table. We're last last year. A bunch of kids and hey what are you going to do. I I WANNA go here. I'M GONNA go here and one of the kids. I forget who was says. I'm going to be a bloodstock agent. That's great and so he got up and I walked over and I go. Let's let's talk. I had no idea data and pretty good. I mean that's how green was I had no idea so so when I came out of here I you know you learn all this stuff but but But it prepares pairs for just about anything gives you knowledge general knowledge of the game. You get to meet people here that maybe you never would ever see and and you know you can develop relationships from the beginning there and maybe you find someone at the. At one of these Games there was a bloodstock agent and learned from him or the family. Did it or whatever but I I do laugh at that when I remember I just remember going. No I does that mean well for standing vice good morning. Good Morning Steve. Excellent and I I was GONNA guess that you've heard Some of the conversation whether it was with Bob Baffert earlier and now with Matt O'Connor I It occurred to me that I would ask you Over the years. How have you seen young people get into that that side of the business the whether it's straightforward for for arms whether it's for consigners whether it's for the sales company where did they come from you know.

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"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

12:41 min | 1 year ago

"matthew oconnor" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"He's a veteran. He's season experience dummy. Let's see what he's learned in the past year he wants to get little airtime. That's good good. Why not absolutely and we go and pull that down well done undo that bat rather little closer there you go perfect well done Matthew O'Connor here a graduating senior senior and and is already in the business so matthew and to tell us a little bit about yourself and and What you why you came here? What you you know what you learned learned in in like? I said he's often on on the run work for Nick. Zito does is ready to Roll Yorker. He's been out of every year. I think last year was my first. Yeah I was on here with yeah I think of his neck and no it was. Mitch and Chris Chatters Mitch Carson. Yes sheets and finally got speaking speaking of the six year plan exactly. No one's we lost count hammer. Emmer doesn't know doesn't know Mitch. But I knew from the time. He was like twelve from his dad. His Dad was a trailer and the kid was basically learned. He learned math. Author Graph That that that's how he that's his math trading but what what's changed since last year as if you're ready to ready to get out there and work is so over the summer polished off from zero. Having Opportunity went down to Florida. Got My trainer's Seniors Aisin's have some solves Palmetto on the nineteenth. Is My last final here in heading east now from here down boy. Mutual started off your right away tremendous. That's tremendous congratulations. where the horses coming from from so I have to from New York? That are two year olds. That'll meet me down there and I have to pick up a couple of when I get down there and I got some money to spend the summer bought a nice air. I Blue Philly Nick. zito picked out midnight loophole to Keeneland firm. Me That's come in so once we get the wheels roll and I feel it will pick up by December. Hopefully the baby steps at this point out of this world out there Brooklyn Boys All Brooklyn boys stuff. Anthony Been Omo. There's gotta you gotta you gotTa Could Action Nice connection disappointed. Great not just from him. From my dad I put together a syndicate a group of guys who put some money up to buy the yearlings outstanding new owner from New York Adirondack bloodstock. So so you here I mean it sounds like he could adjust decided to go right on into training without making the move to come to to come to college college income to the University of Arizona. So what what. Why did you think that this was a valuable step on the way to your training career to come here as opposed to just you know going on the racetrack staying on the racetrack and and going that way? You definitely learn a lot on the race track here. When you come into the program learn a lot about the business side of it and Para mutuals rules in how basically everything works in track management behind the scenes and you kind of understand that in developing appreciation for it but also just being able to say that you have that agree? I feel gives you a little forward progression coming out industry because no one wants to give their million dollar horse to someone who just popped up are nowhere. They see that you're well educated. You understand investments and whatnot and I guess they respect that to a certain extent and if they feel more confident in entrusting you with their stuff I mean the two guys that we just We're just in the room. Yeah right right wrong with having in an education Whatever you do because now that you have that you always have that piece of paper in your back pocket move on because the rarity that you go back later I I ended up going back later but I'm very a lot of things but No I think you've got the right idea. And as we we teach classes here and in some of the the kids go through and they learn different facets of the industry. It doesn't mean they're going to go into that part of the industry like when we teach the racing office part well not everybody's going to go into racing office but as they tell them as a trainer it's good to know you know the thoughts behind what goes on in the office condition. Books written. You know so you can understand that part of the the game and you know when you want to maybe go in and ask a question or two. You're a little bit more informed of what's going on there and you learn some regulatory stuff You know the rules going going in and like you said visits part of the people part. There's there's all kinds of the game that rather than just you know putting giving a leg up to a jockey A. and say You know go into race so You know guys like Matthew. They are going to have a leg up and it's only natural because they're the experience of just being around and being around other people Being in the school situation being in those types of situations much more comfortable coming out and then of course he already has the horse background. So it's not like he's now decided to be a trainer all of a sudden when he's graduated this is all part of the process. And that's the way it was with todd. And and Bob along the way and others fill D'Amato he mentioned. There's there's countless guys out there that that did that. Chuck Chuck Simon so the hard work now is GonNa pay off later and you hear that and when you get a little older you ah glad that you went through it. And when did that which is relevant confidence aspect of of having a degree and and you know the opportunity to you know for for a certain segment to to meet people and all the things that come with a with Growing up essentially and having a having a just the car the self confidence to go forward lowered in life Certainly with your background and the you know the interest that you had you you already knew. Do you got here. What what your course was of action and and what your plan was but also? I'm sure that you already. You know rubbed elbows and had those interactions actions with horsemen and to that extent having been around the game. You know well in advance of getting ear. Yeah exactly so I mean I knew at the point. Well if you see me I'm not jockey sized so Suzanne Newark couldn't ride horses. It was the next option training and ever since certainly as eager members sixteen as soon as I got my work My working papers started working for Schettino in New York Foul Conan's you know and just climbed the ranks. Thanks fairly quick but learned from great people and I feel like that semi up very low and come in here just rounded off. What what do you expect and up till now? What area do you think is the biggest challenge? I think that the biggest challenge training wise is is developing two year olds and in order to be able to show that you could develop them. You need that proper stocking now. You're getting cheaper two year olds. Obviously you're kinda starting off in a hole but but if you have some even if one of them is talented and you could just show you could do with that one. I feel you could show exactly what you do when you get your hands on something you know and you look at it. It's interesting between between Dominic and and and Robert Falcone and Nick Falcone's has I think in a lot of ways really proven How how what? A good trainer is and the his his introduction. I think on a wide basis assist came in association with mind your biscuits and then there was this presumption that Oh that he's really a paper Trainer well that wasn't the case number one and then subsequently he is shown with all different kinds of horses particularly with the good work he's done with with with climbers. And the you know I think he is under appreciated as anybody out there. I just just from watching in and has a better. I mean you get a feel for as a player you get a feel for who you know who is making incremental progress with an acquisition you you know whether they get the horse. Whatever way claiming or private purchase or you know through Through a horse racing age sale and I. I'm very impressed arrest with with with what he does now. He's definitely super talented trainer. I mean think he's thirty five percent I off the claim and he he taught me a lot was when I was there but as he. He's getting a lot of opportunities now. The generosity of you gave him a few horses building up his string but he's he's one of the most talented young trainers out there. In my opinion yeah well. He's one of the few guys that came to California a couple of years ago with a small string twelve fourteen horses Irish and actually did well and made it and he didn't leave because of a lot of people leave because Oh Jeez I can't win out here. Just laugh because of it just didn't make sense. It was you know costs a lot of money to split and do what he did but he impressed me and you know what a press guy like me and my position is the questions that they ask when they come in the right questions. Not You know not just about where they're going to be stabled and in this type of thing when they come in ask questions about races then on that stupid questions since And there's a lot of a lot of that filters through but it come ask ask when they're asking for races they don't ask for race that we ran two days ago They don't I'm GonNa ask you know things like that was asking very intelligent questions and you know what those guys that you WanNa help psycho. You know what you're right that raises missing so you know what. I'll put that in the next book things like that so I was impressed by that just the way he handled his business. And you know what happened on track as well so one of the few success stories that came to California at the time. I wish you would've stayed. But it just economically didn't make sense for him and we got that but got a little taste. And he left He left a little mayor behind that Became history in California right. The Silica so So anyway he got her he got her to the point where she look good. Enough to claim for forty and Jerry jumped on it but but no he very present. He's GonNa have a good career ahead of him and and now I know he had matthew working for him part of the time. So that explains it but seriously good people work for good people and you're going to pick up a lot and I got a good feel about though matthew here. I I think the thing that helps me is I learned a lot on like each sex eaus zero. I learned how to deal with how training system MOS with the bigger horses and the two year olds. Obviously really the stock wasn't the same as war pass and those type of wishes but learning veto system and then seeing how cohn claimed horses and the things he would do to fix Osama in order to get them to progress early. And I just feel like it's a well rounded resume type thing no doubt no doubt and and you'll keep learning. I mean even Baffert Last hour just himself also acknowledged you said still learning. I mean you just it. It's it's an ever changing environment and you you you as horse player whatever whatever arena. You're in keep keep deep learning or at least you're open to either new experience or or you know learning from something or taking an element. I mean you. You Watch as a racing director as a racing office executive you watch what other people are doing. And I'll the steal from it and we'll copying a good thing in this in this business you see somebody that does something good that works. I mean there's no problem just you don't you don't you. You let other people on it and every day and in this game I mean every time you think you've seen it all something comes along and so that prepares you you try to prepare for everything but you get some of wacky stuff..

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