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REShow: Deion Sanders and Matthew McConaughey. Hour 3 (04-30-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Deion Sanders and Matthew McConaughey. Hour 3 (04-30-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production available on spotify apple. Podcasts PODCAST ONE DOT COM in anywhere. Else you podcasts out. Aaron Rodgers. This is the rich Eisen. Show now. Richeisenshow APP that can be hard to overcome off the show. Espn baseball insider. Just pass in Las Vegas readers. General Manager Mike Mayo retired. Forty niners offensive Lineman Joe Staley coming pro football hall of Famer Dion. Sanders loves a KADEMI award. Winning actor Matthew mcconaughey. Hey now. Rich is final hour of this edition of the rich. Eisen show chat with Mike Nock and Joe Staley in our previous hour. Matthew mcconaughey Academy Award winning actor is a PSA that launched on Tuesday that is aimed towards the Spanish speaking population to have them either. Stay at home. Where mask when they go out and about In that PSA with Matthew mcconaughey speaking fluent Spanish Canelo Alvarez by the way so matthew mcconnahey will join us in about twenty minutes time to have that very conversation On this program yesterday at this very time We were set for Brett Farve. Who kind of blew the roof off this sucker to use that phrase? When he was very honest about being surprised at the drafting of Jordan love said that characterized Aaron Rodgers. As being a little bit surprised himself did say that this was going to rear. Its ugly head that the did believe that the packers had burned a bridge with rodgers. Who he did go out. And say and his estimation won't finish with the packers that was his take on everything also as we're getting set for my friend Dion Sanders to join us in just a second. I WANNA play this sound bite from Brett because it. Kind of echoed. What Dion said in the NFL draft a thon live draft room? The night that this all happened the moment that this all happened this echoes exactly what Dion Sanders. My Co host and the first night of that draft thon live had to say. Here's what Brett had to say about. Aaron's role in bringing Jordan love aboard and along job mentor Jordan. This discussion went on when I left. Green Bay it. It's not the head guys job to mentor. The next guy. That guy's awesome There to take your spot now if if Jordan were asked Eric. Can I watch extra film with you? I would be shocked if Aaron said no you know. I think he would go over and beyond help but he's not go out of his way. That's I can't blame you. That's how we set up my hall of fame. Friend Padre colleague my hall of Famer Dion Sanders. How are you love you man with you? The Drought Don was unbelievable. Upset that we were seeing on television which we should have with the stars that cast we had. Just although I plan Starsky and Hutch on the night. I got to tell you the the way that that started. I DID FORWARD TO NFL network brass and they might be working on it right now. The first forty five minutes of that draft. A thon live was a television show. Where it was you me and Kevin Hart to Start and then Michael Strahan joined. And then Bob Kraft joined. He went off to the Patriots draft when Russell Wilson joined in from what appeared to be a party bus parked outside his home then Brady joined then. Dj College joined him. What looked like a a a rubber room that he was sitting in and Kennedy Movie Theater. And then Travis. Kelsey that was that was a TV show dion. When let me tell you the problem with that? Okay see when someone calls you in. Say Hey man we need you to do this. Drought with rich Eisen and crime okay. I got ten minutes. That's all they signed up for then. A problem is when they get on. We have such a good time. They didn't want to get off. Then you gotTa Brady. Coming on and somebody tells me. Then you got another guy coming on Ross Wilbur. Someone's supposed leave and they never wanna leave so now we got a hundred people trying to get a word in it and you try to play good host and let every Opportunity Graduate Joe Ball Right. Yeah that's telling you know you. GotTa we gotTA distribute. I believe it was great and Brady Brady was Boston. Russell's stones about the estimate. Ciara kick them out of the House to do the conversation. That was funny. It was hilarious. Everybody since the humor came alive and I mean Kevin Hart Industry and then they started out. We just was at each other's throats. It was unbelievable. I'm thanking rich. We Stumbling Noble. Something really spectacular. That could be continued around our country and not just go back to normal when we have the opportunity to go back to normal. I think we've exposed to some phenomenal ways to communicate with the fans and the wrangham closer to us. No doubt about Dion Sanders here on the rich. Eisen show in the NFL DOT com. They're still the archive of all three nights of NFL draft online. If you want to check that out Brett Farve as of a part of our first night to and timing is everything. He was done About a half an hour before Jordan love gets drafted by the packers. What did you make that? Dion kids. you gotta understand man. You got a quarterback beds getting ready to tongue kiss forty and a few years and you think it's absurd to finally start thinking about a replacement. This is the only position that that is an insult. So why is that? Is this the most selfish inconsiderate obnoxious position? There is we drafted Bruce pickens. I believe the year after I can't I believe so. It may be two years but but anyway the third pick overall I was so he actually drafted hard on me. It was my responsibility. I felt to get him ready to play the argument as well. You got to corners. You need to. You only have one quarterback but the better. We are as a team. The best everyone in the team. That wins the super bowl or go to the third of four third round of the playoffs. That's the team to get pro bowls. It's not that they're that darn good better seemingly. Everybody is really good because you want should kids job to get the next Guy Ready. I believe that's what I gain consists of coaches in the NFL. Wonderful job directing traffic calling plays putting together the game plan but players coach players as any clear they learned from players. Not from coaches when you get to the NFL Ayla debt level. He was supposed to know your job. Man You know what you gotTa do is up to you to go beyond that. Well the reason why because. And that's why I love having you on expect it for me. The reason why it's different between your position and the quarterback position is Pickens in you could play on the field at the same time. Technically Jordan Lavin Aaron Rodgers can not and Jordan. Love is not going to do a single thing to try and make this team any better to win a super bowl next year unless of course he gets in and because Rogers's hurt and keeps the the team afloat in the manner in which a rookie is not expected That's the difference Prin. Yeah but if I'm helping Bruce pickens whose quarterback WHO's a third pick overall soon as later. Don't you think his contract you're going to be up if he's bald it out and they're gonNA make a choice between one or the other they can't keep to the enormity of the salaries so you know. Let me tell you something man and I said this when I was doing a little wings. Podcast adult is not threatened by Ken. Want to people listening to really understand what I'm saying. A dog is not rain by Ken. Ritz you had some of the dearest friends you had your wife you had some book some darn right during right out communicators host show. Show when you gonNA leave including you deal. What about taking your show? Did you worry about us taking your show because you're dahl rich you don't worry about a cat because you'll get the job. We always talk about teen team up. So are we really a-team? Individuals plan a team sport. Well I guess you didn't teach pickens all that well yet to career interceptions dion. I can put the Fisher right in his hand. Can't be right there at the point where we see. I can't catch him and show him how to catch up told him everything I could. So Rogers in your estimate chip going so raw in your Roger should be just fine all chill not a big deal. Just go out and buy all by the way By all accounts with the exception of saying he was a little surprised by this That's what Rogers done is. Welcome a kid gonNA work. Have you gonNA lead to say what? What did the seal you chose me and I thought it was Captain Coward. You know not coveting no man you. You've got the help that next man. That's what team is all about. That's what it's all about man. So then what barred and even play position I. I thought it was my responsibility because I saw a gift in. That's awesome tremendous in that kid. When he came to Atlanta it was my responsibility man to stay have to work with and talk to him about life. Try Best to do what was what was good for him and every player that I play with. That's what we supposed to do. So what's it did for me what you did for me? The network doggy threatened by cat. Man So what should but but a dog should want some more. What bones around him. I mean what you make of the the non drafting of wide receivers for the rest of the draft. Though they and three they were thirteen in three. How much of a need is there like? Come on man like what was the real true need for the future. They're probably thinking you know what we got everything. We need right now to get to do this again to win. I division We could add Antonio Brown Brown down the street. We could add a free agent receiver down the street. Because we don't need a rookie with Aaron Rodgers. What are the rookie going to contribute with Aaron Rodgers? I mean did most of these big time quarterback. They won't rookies. They will proven guys that know how to play the game know how to handle themselves. They they will proven God's is going to be where they need to be when the time has come. I don't think he wants to tutor another rookie on how to run routes and where to be and all that. I don't think he wants that responsibility. He wants to drop back and let it go and if he could get lyman he could get the defensive help they go to their needs. I don't know if they're media means was that immediate need wasn't Jordan love. I guess to bring it full circle on. That's the point to me wasn't him when they drafted him with bread there. That wouldn't immediate need. It all turned out well. Didn't Dion Sanders here on the rich. Eisen show all right before I let you go Dionne. What was going on with early with the hell happened there. What happened there? Did you don't care what happened. I'm GonNa give somebody give you the whole story. Charissa Thompson called me and she's Pram. Getting Ready to go interview girly He's wearing number. Can You Give me send me a video of about that. I think cool no problem so I spent on my porch. We're sitting at right now. They're looking at a lot of pressure man in that. Twenty one dollars you. I wouldn't do that. A lot of pressure. Hey Man I think you should that thing and I was. I Love Tigers the whole thing. I wished they would've played in its entirety. It was a really hilarious video. You Know Hi. I'm Kassir comical. You know and that's what it was and I think when he made the statement prime was hating he was joking as well and they took it to the left man and he should have just stayed right. They know darn well. I don't know number number number. Didn't make me. It's been several balcony. Warren Twenty one even our own. Nfl networks the Angelo Hall. So I was you know I'm elated and a dog's not afraid of any vic theater and a dog's not afraid of dogs. Not Afraid of his legacy be more cats. They should retire. Your number anyway dion. They should retired but only gave them five graded only game five great years. This holiday gave them five. So I understand and I'M GONNA ask I'm GonNa ask you the last question for my son Cooper who you know he said. Why does what's with Uncle Dion? Beard quote on quote. He said that to me last night so I will. Just ask that point blank. Which with the beard. Please tell Cooper my whole life is really a quarantine. I'm sitting here looking at delays right. Now we're talking to you Richard Skins working out and he lunch with my kids Probably going to do a little fishing right at a lunch. I'm country crime right now and I don't have really too many television responsibility do I'm at the age and stage. I don't care what people think about me. I feel like I look great with my great. My greatness put is just a setup because when I come back is as this country goes back to normal. I'll go look so dern Yong is going to be like I'm a new guy I might change the nickname young young press so this is like young deasy who we spoke to the other night so so so the beard is basically another version of the hair on top that you're going to be another comeback player of the year two time. Comeback Player of the year one comeback player year. Back back in. You wouldn't understand how many calls I've got to to try to duplicate what I've done but you know my hair is. Oh another breeze. They don't understand how my hair can come back so lovely but it's I don't know I just give all the credit to gut rich. You trying to pull me over to that side. I know you are. I know you're still trying to come on. Prime rich is documented. That white hair makes it better comeback in blankets. Where's the paperwork? Where's the study? I don't know what you're talking about. What do you mean talked to the Surgeon General? Just talking yesterday Toga. Prom enjoy fishing in lunch and your family. I love you. Thanks for the call. All right love. You humbleness tell. Everybody did say Staff that truly you you live in the Bible when they say you got some people that are covered you man. I love those people everybody back. They feel the same way. Thanks probably prime. That's Dion Sanders. Laughing your white hair. I don't know I typically. I don't know if that Charles. I don't know yeah. Beard is all white hair right now. It's all White Anders Clause Center. I mean he's GonNa Shave. He's GonNa come back. I mean it's always time comeback player. The air plan all right. Alright Alright Matthew mcconaughey when we come back here on the rich Eisen show on whole Stanford your phone calls after that taking the opposite approach. That are Roger. Shouldn't be afraid of this kid. Welcome in there and go ball out and not be you know. And that and that they were thirteen and three doesn't need the help that the help that he got help that he needed the help that he received and he should be teaching Jordan. Love how to play and that and that he was the same person for far that love is for him and so we have heard polar opposite opinions for you here on this show yesterday. Brett Farve San. This is not going to end well and dion sang make of it. What you need correct is that essentially what Deanna today and also by the way. I'd totally forgotten that. They drafted another corner even higher than him kit from Nebraska who had two career interceptions at two years later third overall pick burs pick and he's supposed to welcome in coach him up. I Love Dion Sanders he and Kevin Hart together at the top of the NFL draft. I thought it was. It was my job you guys ever ladies have to seek it out. Nfl DOT COM. It's still sitting out there. It was my job to just let it go good and just be quiet and let the two of them go at it with each other. Because the first thing I mean Kevin Hart went right at the end for his beard and Dion was also sitting as you could see at the top there dion sitting in some sort of Velvet throne and you could see behind him. Those were initials D. J. S. I mean would behind him Ritz and and and was funny when we had Blake Shelton on later on. They were making fun of him that it was one of those voice chairs that turns it thirds that it looks like one of those chairs that turned de. L. S. D. L. S. D. They were what's his middle name. Lewin Lewin that's right L. W. I was epic and then again J. Wearing a white t shirt with that room. It's a padded room. Yeah but it's padded. Because it's his home theater. It was fun but it looked like a padded room. They were all given him grief like water. Like are you. Where are you right now? Who is the one that will turn? The camera goes on my looks like he was in a padded room. And these it's my home. Theory TURNS THE CAMERA. And it's just like gorgeous and then who told Kelsey. Hey We know what team you're on take the chiefs at Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart blasted every single human being that walked in that room. Yeah you like the minimum. They zoomed into that room and again. It was my job to say nothing so fun and I did the one time I did actually enter the fray was to defend Russell Wilson when Brady accused him of being evicted by CR because he was sitting in Party van. And I'm like Mike Russell. Tom Doesn't even know what houses in I mean. He has no idea what house he just told into. That was because I was a day after he stolen in the wrong house. And that made a big to do. Won't be penalized for that. By the way the Great Matthew mcconaughey when we come back here on the rich Eisen Show in about twenty seconds. Do you own or rent your home. 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And it's Matthew mcconnahey at Canelo Alvarez in Spanish telling everybody if they can to stay at home and if they can't please wear a mask check it out the s that is. He came a fatal mechanic crewmen signed off. So that's caps. Save Good News. Scotty Eagle beyond let me was really wildfires. Solomon to Puerto Rico customers MBA from Komo. Musk whereas in an elite wanted to know Mascara wanted to know three. Quick Amelia's Amigos. Even since the almost I said does your mommy lose weight. Almost just keep living indeed right there and joining us right now. The Academy Award Winning Actor Matthew mcconaughey back here on the rich Eisen show. How are You Matthew Motors Greg? I'm doing good. I'm sitting in my own thrown with my initials over my head. Well Dion is sitting in the state of Texas. I guess everybody from the State of Texas runs right down with the on. Believable Dion is one of a kind. Hey man this is a beautiful thing. How did it come about? Yeah and so you know me like everybody sitting home the last five weeks and I'm sitting there trying to say what's the what's the message that need to get out and win and I mean a month ago. It was clear we need to stay home. And then about two and a half weeks came very clear when he met where mass put out this thing in English and played this character. Bobby Bandido you can call me bobby. B About Wearing bandannas and then my the mayor of our city Austin to look the Spanish communities not getting the message to wear the mask. Did some research town state and United States worldwide noted? That was happening. All over the world spent speaking. Weren't getting the message so I said who they listen to. You might listen to me speaking my broken Spanish but I need to find somebody else can speak it better than me that they would look up to. So I'd met Canal years ago with the golden gloves. Event called him and he said he was in. I wrote it directed him overtaxed. And that's what we got. No kidding okay by the way again I'm I'm not fluent It doesn't sound broken amine. Sounds like you're pretty pretty fluent in the in the last kind of being kind of policy modest sudden I I do like it so so is that it's a one take situation with you in Spanish at the at the one takes it up canal. It was it was to Texas Canal because he was in San Diego and I talked to cameraman who is holding his iphone over there just about some framing but other. Cannella was one. Take as well. So you are directing him from like you're live. You're sitting there and say okay. Move this over. Move that over and then and Canelo Alvarez just stuck the landing and then you gotTa say absolutely stuck it. Yeah so hopefully that message get out. It was fun to do and never go found another place to put. Just keep living but did it in Spanish to sell US median pro. And we're seeing right now on the screen A mask that says. Just keep living as well across my face. Yeah exactly and then the JK Living Foundation Jay Lin Foundation Dot. Org founded By you and Camilo so today you're providing meals and also laptops because again the number of kids who depend on meals through school and obviously homeschooling for some is not simple at all because they don't have the equipment in order to connect to schools so I wonder how you got involved in that Matthew. Well I mean a lot of the students that we serve through. Our Foundation are in these towns. One schools in a lot of them are depending on some two meals a day from school. I mean that was that was two of their three meals a day. They were getting from school so now they can't go to school. They missing two meals. So we're providing as many males to them and their families as we can in the other thing a lot of them you know not. They're out of school. They Wanna continue learning that they don't have the means to. They didn't have a laptop or they didn't have a hot spot so we started working up some funds and got some laptops out and Gosh some hot spots where they didn't happen. Jk Live and foundation dot Org to get involved in that and And help out or see some more and the All in challenge. I'm seeing so much about that. You're involved in that too right math. Yeah yeah that. That's nothing about about feeding the people that need it. You know right now Yeah I've got A. I'm putting the Game Day experience down here in Austin Texas and Darrell K Royal Memorial Stadium. This college football feeding kicks off. Who wants to come to town here? Spend the day with me and my family go to a game. Long Horn game We've got your tailgate and pre-game we got you during the game box. Come on down the field and the sidelines. We can get a bird's eye view or man's I view of the game. We'll have a great time. Now what what are you? What are you like during the game? Matthew how how intense are you into the action so people who are going to be bidding on this know what they're getting into? Yeah no no no this if anyone bidding and if you want to take any any pictures talk about you know movies or anything other than what's happening on the field. That's why we're going to get there early. We'll get there and get that done because once the kick off starts I'm breaking a sweat. I'm into it I'm not I'm not a great conversation about anything other than the game while the Games happening. So it's it's game time not time as a flat circle. That's the conversation essentially. But you're saying gone baby over and over and over for about three and a half hours is games. So that's the Minister of Culture Talking. Essentially not the Academy Award winning actor Matthew mcconaughey talking is what you're saying it would. It would not be good culture. Don't along on football game longhorn fan to be having your mind or mouth elsewhere other other than on the game pretty much so in terms of that man. Oh man I I can't. Obviously the virus has its own schedule. And that's what we're talking about here with your PSA again j live and foundation dot. Org and you're all in challenge but man that first game when it happens. I I mean I know again. You'RE A minister culture. You don't take this stuff for granted but maybe we all have I. I can't wait what that will be like. That's going to be insane that I is GonNa be. I mean collectively especially in the United States. I mean it hurt poor for for football. For our American football it is going to be collective One that that the day will be remembered on many calendars for the rest of many lives when our first game comes back and then you know the question is what are we gonNA. It's all in the air. You may more than I do. But when do you are? We GonNA play Games. There's GonNa be some sort of fans I mean. There will be televised or are we gonNA have gains. Where hundred thousand capacity. Yeah Stadiums are only taking his many fans that can sit six feet apart. I don't know. Are they going to provide math? What are those going to look like obviously collegiately they gotta sell tickets and everyone wants to thing the games to go on But I I. I don't know I mean we're all up in the air on that right now. Are they going to play without fans but then televise it Or are we going to find some something here in the next few months where we go? We got the vaccine thing. We're clear let's roll. That would be obviously the best option. I think it'll probably be without fans matthew to start and and if baseball starts I apparently you know fans but the dugout will be. The players won't be in the DUGOUT. They'll be in the stands six feet apart. You know like like they're literally talking about this like it's all up in the air. Essentially we are. We are calling audibles I you know. At the line of scrimmage on all of this I mean look. No one wants to play with that fans but it still a game. The game can still be played You besides losing the chance of being there at the player and whatever so said Game. The competition's still there. The rules are still the same. You don't all you no longer have home field advantage or or deficit for playing a away but I think you know that would be worthy to go play the game you talk about people watching whoever's got the rights to to the game that bet networks happy no doubt about that and the few minutes left with you. Let's talk a little bit professional football. I'm sure so many people matthew who are quite you clearly and for good reason with with Texas football when they start assuming you're a cowboys fan. What's the looks that you get when you reveal that you've actually root for the Washington redskins. What at least one closed die when their cheek rate is up and they're like what And then they go. How the Hell did that happen? Always tell that story. I told you when you're watching your four years old watching Westerns with your dad and you find yourself rooting for the Indians versus the cowboys. And then when your favorite foods hamburgers and you got a middle linebacker number fifty five. Who's now in the hall of fame called Chris Hamburger when your four year old man your guy that's already to and then I will say this at eight years old. I was in Texas Stadium. Made the three hour drive from longview Texas to what was the cowboys? Use Plain text. Said you know there's a lot of people may not before eighteen tea and The redskin game. I'm I show up on the sideline at eight years old painted Burgundy shirtless shoeless with the headdress. On an shammy remember the sham as you. Dry Your car with sure. I had a ship. Shammy Like Roped around my way like loincloths. Jammie is there you said loincloths. Shammy and I remember. I thought I could go. Naked dislike the like like like I was no. You gotTa wear you. Bbc's and now the redken games those the only reason. I can stay up past eight thirty at night. If the redskins played on Monday night football it was the reason I'd get in trouble in church because Church would go to twelve thirty and I'd had to sneak out in the car. Put on PAT summerall calling the game when Dallas was playing the redskins on. Am Radio and I just took the penalty. I said you can growl took the penalty. You took the penalty. That's assuming was a fifteen yarder matthew. I'm trying to stay in the game but we went backwards. Yes yes beans personal man. Did you ever get to an RFK game did you ever get to a game in RFK? Did you ever get married? I was at the last game at RFK. The first game. Jack Kente Cook and the first game at Fedex field. I have a mason jar with Burgundy soil that I went down the field and Alaskan Bar K. and pulled up foot by twelve inch by twelve shock and ran off the field but yeah I didn't just because I've been a redskins fan for for a long time. So what do you think of The current state I mean chase young was the second overall pick in the draft. That went down last week. And Ron Rivera ZANU head coach there. What do you think that I look I? I like where we're heading. We've needed. We needed to get our compass Corrected here for a while and you know the word cultures thrown around a lot like what's your culture what's your culture and everybody you know could look over the past haven't years and say wow look at you know. New England's The pinnacle of that of how they run that system no matter who you are individually you're coming into Bella check system How they run their organization. We've needed to get a contract. Ron Rivera I love the higher. I love his mindset. I love how he is changing the culture. I believe Dan Snyder's really found position now to say look. I'm the owner. Now I'm I'm GonNa truly back off and let the person I hired. Do the job the right way. We gotta change we we have. We've we've needed to make a change and I think we're really now on our way you know we used to be one of the Great Dynasties Championship Dynasty and mind you there so few dynasties now but this is a chance for us to get back in that conversation. It's not gonNA happen immediately e either. I don't think I think we are. Now we're going to build a dynasty again and he'll redskins matthew HD TR's they say right Hey Tag Matthew always enjoy our chats loved the PSA again people can check it out. Certainly on Jay Lin Foundation Dot. Org where you can learn more about the meals. Laptops that Matthew in his wife are making sure the kids are equipped with your all in challenge. Where you can go hang out at a game but Talk only about Movies and TV UP A free game. Pregame halftime that's fine. Always enjoy our chats matthew. You're you're pro. I appreciate it and thanks. All y'all doing new saint jude's and stuff to. Oh I appreciate that. And your team are all pros. My wife and I are friends at Shannon Rosenberg and the and your team that has always great with with ours your first rate. Thank you Matthew Davis to keep it up you you got Matthew mcconaughey Academy Award winner. Love that guy man. He's a great storyteller and by the way I totally understand. Hey you know we can talk about stuff before and during. There's not right. Yeah you're not breaking down Dallas buyers club when it's thirty but we have a new fantasy team name McConnell Hayes Shami loincloth right. I don't want to look at that. Avatars Bunny Dallas funny breaking news out of the National Football League and your phone calls at eight four four zero four rich when we come back right here on the rich. Eisen show on YouTube dot com slash richeisenshow Sirius Channel and BBC. I should I be made to be surprised by the National Football League News because again I've been interviewing people pretty solid for forty minutes. I'll tell you what it is. What are you telling me the name of the movie you'd like to see? I mean I don't know about that. It's about the schedule. Oh so what I? It's coming out next week. That's not the part that news. I'm sure you can let me know when we come back. How about. How does that sound? Okay I don't know why keep talking. I don't understand why we have to talk like this way. We can also talk about Gronk. He made some news sort of but he was kidding. He was just being about the playbook playbook month ago he he kid like that Gronk. He didn't mean that he obviously he. He tweeted out a picture of it. Still in the packaging that got sent to him. I'm sure that that's yeah. He's but they couldn't send another one packaging to make him send it out and like who we can have anything in that Fedex. I mean he did an explanation. I mean I. I don't think I mean wrong is just a lovable. He's not a criminal. Mastermind is a man by the way speaking of mass singer seriously He was just laughing is just having fun. Grand Catchpole love this guy. My kids think I'm one of the massing. Or is that? Still an competition you your. Can we break this down real quick and the to? How would you pull this off without them? Finding great question I hope to one day. It would be great. Figure that out. If this would be so funny I would I would. I would do the math singer and not tell. My children and Suzy would be obviously a collaborator. Oh yes and it would have to be a team effort but the fact that they think you could pull this off. There is a bounty in the house. Any Obama or Lebron James or beyond. Say One hundred dollars to the children because they all think that it's the most famous people point. Zander last night because because one of their one of them I guess had a Red Twenty-three Jersey Basketball Jersey. It's part of the clue package. No zander runs it. I think it's Lebron James. With Ron Throwing Lebron with the OBAMAS and with beyond say if any of them appear in the mass singer it's one hundred dollars for each of my children. Was the costume seven feet tall? They're not you know. I don't think they're thinking straight when they're watching that. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's Geiko DOT COM G. I. C. O. DOT COM okay everybody. We haven't checked in our poll question in quite some time. Christopher you want to update a Senate on our twitter handle at rich Eisen show. This stemmed from a conversation in our first hour. James on Tomorrow's show James Winston is our first guest up on our NBC `send broadcast starting at one eastern time. Join US THE NEW ORLEANS. Saints member and quarterback Jameis Winston will join us at the top of our and be an NBC. Essential HABITAT DENSE. Long enough for you to update. So any DON's a free agent now being released by the bengals. So who would you rather have for? Twenty Twenty Andy Dalton nor Jameis Winston Year in the James Camp along with forty two percent of our audience. Andy Dalton fifty eight percent understand the James Dislike. I know there's a ton of interceptions but there's if they could if you cut those interceptions in half right and and just even that would mean fewer touchdown passes. Because you'd have to thank right that some of these touchdown passes were threaded needles. That potentially he wouldn't go for because he is dialing back less more. How good how good can he be with Mike? Thomas with that offense with Sean. Payton in his head and now could he be dude. Love going to lasix. I don't Hate Davis Andrew Marchant of the New York posting the NFL schedules due to come out by May ninth. That will likely give itself the flexibility of Saturday Games on TV. If there's no college station okay there you go. That's the NFL news. We're we're teasing commissioner. Told me that it was out by May ninth. That's the flexibility to move games to Saturday. That's the new okay. Let's hope that there's that flexibility. If there's no college season that would mean that the NFL is playing. Because they don't have the same issues that college has that if there's nobody on campus they're not having games there's no campus for the NFL to have to be considering other than maybe their own campus that they had set up in the way that baseball might be considering right. Now also has been talked about that College revenues are largely associated with attendance and gate Whereas THE NFL. Maybe not so much in relation to We'll see how it goes and again the College Don Right producers saying the college students aren't professionals. They're not professionals. But this whole construct that is set up for college. Football is to make as much revenue as possible and if the kids aren't on campus. Which is what every single commissioner of every single commissioner. An of all these leaks are saying. There's no kids on campus or not GonNa have any games right there. There's no students I at some point though didn't the NCWA say they're considering paying the players at some point in time in twenty twenty one look they can make. It's around the corner man. It's it's around the corner Let's go to our. Let's go to our phone lines right now. Who has been waiting longest? That'd be Ray in Las Vegas Nevada. What's up Ray? How're you doing our user man man? I sure hope I get to see you last week. But Hey maybe in two years draft we will be there with bells on Vegas in two thousand twenty. Two is going to be a hell of a party because we miss this one this year for obvious reasons. What's on your though. Hey Man I got something really out of the box for your Brockman. I'm not sure how you're gonNA feel about this. How about packers trade Rogers Patriot? He's ray what else what's next. And then the packer either. Pick up on that. I heard adults resulting or cam get until loves ready to come along rate and again just because they draft love doesn't mean they're on interested in Rogers. Arron Rogers is the most important piece to the Green Bay packers now with love being drafted you have to now. Say He's the most important piece to the twenty twenty. Green Bay packers you. You're not gonNA trade him away and stick cam in coming in after an injury season just because they drafted Jordan love and he as you heard what Dion I have to say at the top of the hour. Since you're kind of stakeholders as you did that that Aaron Rodgers it is should be the take the approach of dog and I'm out of Scared of a cat you know and and I think that's the approach eventually Roger's GonNa take and the chip on his shoulder that that that far rightfully pointed out that he's got I think he's going to be turned on the opposition at some point. It's just at some point. There's going to be a transition. The question is the clock starting on that when is it and I just think it's going to be two three years from now when the packers hope he stays there. I hope he's one of these guys and stay with the same game. Oh he will want to be there but you never know. Thank you for the call rate I again. I think he wants to be there. He's getting a lot of money to be there. It's the only team that he's known professionally. I mean you imagine what it must feel like to run out on Lambofield and hear that. What a rush. That must be doesn't want to give that up to start somewhere else and but again just because the packers draft love that's why I said the talk of trading and his crazy talk but that would be again where you could turn around. Brockman and say Didn't you say welcome to the rest of us? Patriots are not the rest of us. We just got Aaron Rodgers. We got we got twelve back. He can wear number twelve for all. I'm concerned shouldn't go in that direction. Should we go in that direction? Right now sports talk radio if the packers trade Aaron Rodgers to the Patriots with the Patriots. Give Him twelve call in. Let's talk about it. Great Voice Rich. But screen. I don't know why I'm talking like this. You can put it on a Split Stop. let's go to Who's been waiting second-longest? That's Michael in Louisiana. The Great State of Louisiana. What's Michael Rich? I appreciate you taking my call. I had two comments one. I know you're fond of Coho down here. I WanNa tell you a story that About thirty seconds that College Game Day was in town and it was his fourth game against Alabama. So he's effectively interviewing for the job he's doing the Russillo and canal shows at Walc owns. He finishes his interview and my son and I were there. My son goes out the parking lot and catches him and said would you take a picture with me and my dad and he says sure where is he says inside. He said go getting bringing back here and he didn't move. And we took a picture you can even see the porta-john does right by the stays around. And then I send it to him and he sent me back to autograph copies of it. That's the man he's a man. I love coach. Oh I knew you would like that one. I do like that one The other comment I had. I can't believe that nobody in the media has called out. Isaiah Thomas are just say the the Pistons when they keep comparing this to Boston walking off own them right if you go back and look at the footage which I did the It's one that game. When Boston walked off was in Detroit the fans are getting ready to flood the court they the security was already out. You did it for safety reasons. We're just. We're not comparing apples to apples. Unless for some reason as air or land beer thought the Piston paying. We're GONNA flood the court after the Bulls beat them in Detroit. I don't think so Michael. That's good do you check the tape and before I let you go. You've got a great set of pipes. Michael would you mind saying the words? Welcome back to the rich. Eisen show and we'll have Mike del. Tufo played every now and then would you mind one day parts outside. Go Tigers and welcome back to the rich Eisen show. No no no no no Michael Come on really I I want full meaning like just take a second gather yourself. I just nail it please. Now welcome back to the Rich Eisen Show Ladies and Gentlemen Mike. Thank you very much. Appreciate the call by the way all my life so appreciate your call and keep going you keep going to thank you attack. Great voice by the way who when I was doing my voice like this before I was preparing for Michael From Louisiana. And you got Stephen Dorf right. That's the draw. I mean He. He's the he's ready to roll on the rich Eisen. Show listen to that. That's what I wanted Michael to do. That's the one that's the one. See everyone's GonNa be Duker Kentucky. I mean you're listening to the rich. Is Aw fantastic. I'll be playing. He's again with all due bring back President Palmer. That's right. Oh President. Oh yeah spoiler alert all right Alberton New York. Let's take your phone call. What'S UP Albert? Hey Rachel longtime fan here. That was a great interview with the guy from fifty first state that I know it was such a thing. All the movies of entire filmography. You Still Magri up in front of you chose the one that would be the the the that one that he's a great guy but look at the big ball on Mike mayock earlier and I didn't know I think you guys are too good of friends. You should have pressed the more on Derek Carr because you have anti Dolphin on the street you have on the street. Gruden wants the guy who cries on the Field Albert first of all the guy broke his leg. Secondly I asked mayock. I said the narrative is you got Mariota to play the role of Tanna Hill. Two Cars Mario. What do you say to that? I mean just laid it all out there and he's not going to sit here and say cars on thin ice and I asked him about Brady at the combine and his answer was I haven't spoken Brady since two thousand and seven and all he talked about was not having the weapons around him and they didn't they they didn't play defense well enough. I mean he's always going to go. He's always going to go team I. Then he flat out said cars the quarterback. So you know what I mean I I hear you but you know I just had to push back a little bit there. Appreciated which thanks for taking care of Yourself. You Got Fifty. One dates wasn't a fifty first dates. What was it again fifty first? Let's go to David. Indianapolis what's going on Dave? How you doing Real quick and I wanted to say one thing I'm chef and I work for Lucas Oil and I was at the Super Bowl and the guys I worked with. Are you there? I'm here you're on some of the guys I work with said I wouldn't ask you this but I have to? Oh I was standing in the stands and I was trying to get your attention. Have my show south on and as soon as you turn to be I gave away. You remember that you know what Bender Dave you know Dave Dave. Here's the deal that happens to me all the frigging time. I'm sure it does and you know in all honesty. The one thing I remember about the final throes of that Super Bowl was that I'm a set. It was in the stands I'm on the set with Mariuchi and Michael Irvin and we turned around and the fan who was in the stands right behind our set wearing the clock around. His neck was flavor flav. So that's the one thing. I remember not your trolling on my love for the University of Michigan. But it's okay. I have two questions one. I'm kind of curious about The cold taken Taylor any someone is. I'm Kinda curious what John Elway didn't go defense instead it but he took handler instead of those two. Well I guess my answers to that is you. You need multiple running backs in this business. I mean Marlin Matt couldn't even play all sixteen. Mac and Taylor together are going to be just dynamite. Man I mean just absolutely dynamite Jonathan Taylor even if I tell you some e even if I if I had Mac and somebody else and I know they do. Okay what Himes right so even if I have all those guys and I see Jonathan Taylor on my board forty first overall even if I had four other running backs I'd take him. He is just a great human and a dynamite player. Right here into story and in terms of you know elway's draft. It's one of those things too where you might say. I need this position filled. I need that position filled but man do. I love this kid and L. We said going into the second round and they probably were talking about it all night as soon as they're off the clock on Thursday and all day Friday. If hamlets there pick forty-six we're going and they did it and you go to help out rock to but you know I appreciate the call in and go blue Dave right back at you. And that's the way now I hang up on him. I hold no grudge. I don't remember that but it happens all the time anytime I'm in the Mid West I've saw nothing compares to go to but I I also bring it on bring up you bring up your schools intellectual superiority during the dinner. Yes jacket dinner. Which is an interesting time to bring that up in front of my favorite one of those thousand people. I've favorite one of those is. I'm hosting the jacket dinner. Which is a great honour one of the best events? I know you get goosebumps right. Oh it's amazing so everybody's there to have a good time and I show up and I stand at the podium and and I pay it the proper respect and reverence of course of course but I always give a little dig which it's been a few years since I've done And I posted every year. But this is my favorite one. My favorite one is they used to have a giveaway a pro football hall of fame Beer Stein. That's in the right there. I have got it right there. I didn't steal. It probably won a rough. I won the RAFFLE. Everybody's on the table and how much you pay for the ticket to get to that table while I was gratis. Exactly every bearcat. So that's the Stein so you're giving away those Beer Stein's and they tell me the number because they told me the number of on your take on your ticket no actually this year. It was a number of around the table for three four five six essay. If your seat five you win the Stein and for those Ohio State Graduates. That's inbetween numbers. Four and six. Oh all that was so great in perhaps led to this chef at Lucas oil. To give me the o h anytime anybody does that and I'll just frontloaded to anybody out there and the NBC snl audience or Siriusxm. Youtube page. You give me the. Oh say the no oh no. Oh No I hope we get to go back again this well you and me both as you know. They postponed the hat. Yeah which is which is a week before the the pro football fame every year so that just means and so they're just going to have the speeches the next year and that's what we will do for the pro. Football fame should be twenty five. Dan will start early and we'll stay late. Guess what will love it. We will we sure. Will I WANNA thank today's guests? Jeff Passan Mike Mayock Joe Staley Dion Sanders and the Academy Award winner from Fifty First Dates. Apparently Matthew mcconaughey. How a guy in ten days? Adam Sandler I so he he. He had the wrong movie ghosts of girlfriends past Don buoy just set in my ear tomorrow show. Jameis Winston leads the charge on the rich. Eisen show on NBC. David Ferte will join us and the creators of billions. Brian Koppelman. David we will see you on Friday. Hey I got a new podcast coming. It's called theory. This is Theo Rossi. Our world is changing for many of us. It will never feel the same important thing to remember is that we are all in this together. 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Matthew McConaughey

The Forward with Lance Armstrong

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Matthew McConaughey

"Hard everybody. Welcome back to the Ford podcast. I'm your host, Lance Armstrong I still do this podcast the forward. Today's guest. My good friend Matthew mcconaughey he's probably. Our most requested guest of all time I mean, we get a lot of requests. none more so than than McConnell. And and why? Why McConnell? Hey. Why now why we waited so long even mcconaughey said that why would took so long I said, well, it was for a reason, right? Got The new book out Green. Lights I tell you. I've been another man extremely. Well, I, know probably more are probably better than most people on the planet earth. I found out after reading the book I only know five percent of the man and it's. So uniquely beautifully written and What an amazing conversation that we had will not disappoint I promise. We could have set there literally for four hours and it really it kicks off and you'll get a y'all have fun with the very beginning of the show. I kick it off the a text message. 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All right everybody. Welcome back to the Ford podcast I'm your host Lance Armstrong sitting here with probably the most requested guest. In the history of the podcast. and. It's obviously because. He is who he is the man that is, but I think the whole world knows our history he and I. Sitting here with us today. My great friend Matthew mcconaughey. Just, released a new book. All about the green lights. Now how are you? First of all how are you in relatively good man good to see again? Yeah. No, it's been a crazy. It's been well, it's just been crazy the whole. The whole world is crazy. Yes. And I and I and I worry that we're it's it's going to continue to be crazy. You mean past. You mean like what's going to happen I'm worried about what's GonNa Happen here on November third out I wanna get I do want to get into that. I actually have that on my notes because I I want to talk about that but I just I think we will be dealing with covert and all of its. Effects in ramifications and consequences for longer than we are comfortable with. At least I think three years and we should talk about how? How maybe the best deal with that, you're gonNA probably turn me on some some ways I know you and I've talked about that N. teague and I'm sorry fatigue anticipation. Something's going to be over before it actually is and you get so jazzed up for maybe tomorrow morning covered gone or maybe the end of the race is right around the corner and you waste thirty percent of your energy thinking sounds, GonNa. End Sooner than it is but actually if you go further and think, hey, we're gonna be live at this for ten years you actually reserve energy and hopefully we adapt on the children's that we can go re-engage sat in like Oh, I was ready to go another couple years right that is that would be a Big Minority would be in that camp with assets. I heard from our our good Buddy Sanjay Gupta the other day just out of the Blue Yeah text me in just surgery. The surgeon you know inside story. So Matthew and I got to be I was buddies with Dr Gupta and we refer to as either. Surgeon or surge are America's doctor and I introduce Matthew to eight struck up a great relationship, but he's you know. He's kind of the face of this of outside of Anthony Fauci right I mean he's in he's it's wearing him down. I mean. Imagine having to be on TV every night talking about it. And say in the same thing over and over and over and just saying, Hey, hang in there Can I remind you one more time of distance washer handle? What's the? What could he say how many times can you find a different way to save the same damn thing. Right so before we get into it, I just Wanna I I wanna read back to you also would wanna read to the audience a text message you sent me. Last Monday I think today's Thursday. So this is four days ago and as I woke up to this. I was action San Francisco I've had a crazy three weeks but I woke up to this in San Francisco and to from you. and. It goes like this. And I quote. Just had a dream that you and I did your podcast at the bottom of a semi frozen lake. Sitting at a table across from each other with headphones on Mike's in front of us and a case of red wine at our side. Sipped and laughed and talked the fact that we were underwater the whole time. So without needing oxygen was not surprising either of us at all. It was a good dream. Now as as you read the book and for those that have an for those that haven't you need to this is I got to know this I know this man I like to think you know more than most will you really I learned some sitting here this next level but you know, of course, there is there there are the parts of these visions and realizations. Amidst wet dreams, but this was literally. A wet dream we were underwater. Oh Jeez. It was literally didn't he descended was a dream I didn't. I didn't want to ask you. If you woke up having had a waitress that would be a little weird bros.. It was kind of wet dream but it was and why she was we were underwater. It was a wet. It had to be a wet dream. Wow. I did not even think of that. You just said it. Bam. This is going to be fun. But so much in here dude I don't even know where to begin. We have so much history through the years I. Gosh I guess we met what twenty years ago. We met For the love of the game, the Costner show and I gotTa, tell all the insist this thing so. You're behind me and we're watching Kevin Costner's got his baseball movie from the love the game screening of the Bass Concert Hall believe and before that, you know they introduced a well-known longhorns off tonight and they introduce mackey MCI and the crowd flaps, tears and everything the then they introduced land and the crowd stands up standing ovation just wars. Overrun like damn last week extending US kind of. Get that hey, you're that. A new election and you know what that has the added benefit of being true. That's a true. Benefit. Virtual it actually happened. This really happened that was the beginning of it all and then you know, then, of course, I that led to a bunch of years of being busy and you being busy and and then just this this magical reconnection. After my first retirement. Oh six and and just these the the travels, the stories the experiences, the connections right and we'll get into. Your beautiful. Wife Camilla, just having you were there that night? I was we will get into it. I was there that night but. It was the first time. He's sort of hung up number. I'd come back from the road trip and I'm staying pulling an airstream and I was staying at that trailer park over there on Barton you're. At the Congo a RV Park on on. On Barton Springs and. Over, here I'm in locked seven and you're like what? You said You WANNA go grab dinner grab dinner I'm a scenario. Come pick up where am I going? I'm a lot seven at the pecan Grove are beep or park said what but the guy fucking with me. And you know, and then of course, the that night went late late as most of our nights did back then. in and ended with some bongos. Fully clothed, but we'll get into the other Bongo experience unclothed. There were parts of that story that I didn't know that. Shit was next level. That's sort of changes it all right but you know, I think the thing that I I having been I'd never I've never met your father. Obviously know your mother came back very well, know your brothers very well a everybody in your stratosphere pretty well. So but I never met your dad in just reading and learning about the man. About the way that he parented. you know. And I thought I heard you say it on. Some other format. You know if if somebody did that today parented that way people know neighbors be calling Your friends from parents would be calling in schools would be. Was a different it was it was a heavy hand. Different era he was raised differently It's what they understood and how they how he was raised he I'm sure he would say how he how he disciplined me and his other two sons was much lighter than the way he was disciplined but that's what he what he knew and you know what went down with he and my mom and their volatile relationship that you know my. Mom She to this day says, Oh, I. Ask for every one of those fights we got an eye her a picture of Middle Finger broken four times in the book best from her banging on the middle of DAD's forehead trying to pick a fight with him until he finally had to go get out my face and then they would go out and she to this day would say Oh I needed that to communicate. You know. So yeah, it was just different air and they were they were different cat man but I want to set the scene because your mom is. Let's go. Let's just do the. You know the heavyweight fight right as they do the tale of the tape. Body weight. High reach. Your mom is. Five. Foot. Four on a good day. Five foot four, one, eight, one OI. Dad. Six foot four, two, six, three. Okay. So that tells you a little bit about k Mak right there. First of all I. Don't know how the fuck she reached up there to tap him on the forehead, but that's You gotTa have some serious stones. To, be picking that fight. She picked it every time She's Jersey girl came out. Didn't have a real mom and dad in at all she has incredible stories about how she was raised. She didn't have it all and. You know talk about not knowing. How to maybe be the best mother but damn sure be very clear. What you were going to be because of what you how you raise that's to Mama's she just deterrent is she was had no mother father influencing what little she had was very ugly. She just groups in. I'm fighting against that and that is where she became the woman mother that she is which part of you if you're a one hundred percent McConnell. Hey. Give me the give me the breakdown. Right between mom and dad if you had if you had to measure it. Wow probably. Sixty. Forty mom. Yeah. Yeah Having Not Known Your Your Dad but knowing your mom been around your million times, I I see a lot of. Your mother and you and vice versa. Yeah. Yeah you know it's funny. I mean moms that are I'm on five, three, hundred pounds. She would tap somebody in the forehead to she didn't give a shit about anything like it was. Same probably same situation as your mom terms about bringing it. Just you know. They are hundred pounds and five three or whatever. But they have the mentality and the attitude of Middle Linebacker I, I heard about that many times in my older brothers shared me many times they never heard mom. Same quit. Their Dad going stop it Katie stop. Why are you doing this to me? Why do you? Why would I flip the table or why? When I come in? Do you get more excited? Why do you turn it up and start to come at me even harder? What is it with you? He would lose his Greece by going I. Don't get it the angrier I get the more you're getting turned on and making me angrier would you stop it? She pushed it you know divorced twice. remarried. Twice remarried three three times I. Guess I would. Yeah Right. I mean who does that? Bats. To each other you know and I mean that's a real example can't live with you can't live without you and. That's how they roll and I remember reading the book that second time. I wasn't alive for the first of all but that second summer, there's a summer set late seventies at I spent with dad and I was told that mom was on an extended vacation in Navarre. Beach Florida. The second divorce. Back that was truly an extended vacation. Yeah. That's one way to call it. You know what? What's you? You probably done some movies with Gwyneth paltrow which when she got divorced some some sort of new age way to describe it you know rednecks like you and me, we fucking call it an an extended vacation. Was it a mutual uncoupling? They called it or something groovy it. We're just on extended vacation we may come back from vacation. Or lost their job waiting. Let go. We've got fired. That's for sure. God. But the man was was God just reading about him just larger than life in this presence and I just wonder if. you know I, guess in You know as my mom in most people may or may not know this I wasn't born Lance Armstrong born lance gunderson and my mom remarried another man Armstrong became arms. He's he's same way it was heavy handed. But I didn't I didn't like it and I didn't like I didn't feel it didn't feel like it was fair maybe I didn't feel like I was learning anything but I I just didn't I didn't like it and I didn't like the man and so I but but I even before reading the book I, know that you have that the spot. Inside of you and in your heart for your father. Obviously. Biological father adopted from. you never lost the love. For the man. Now, I didn't let me ask you. Did you did you fully not like it? Maybe you didn't are less, but did it have to do that? He was not your blood father did that was that the chasm that he's still just wanting to be able to cross with you? Well that's why I hedge little and thought about it I. I'd have to spend some time thinking about that I mean I at the time if I can try to think back. Gosh. You know whatever forty years ago I think I was sitting there going you're not even my biological father I think it was just you know you leave your sock drawer open. And in comes as I told you not to leave your doctor open right and he's you know one of these Wannabe Frat Daddy's and goes good says, paddles and just lays it on me I'm like I left the fuck and sock drawer open right? I mean I get it if you go out and steal something or or it was a sock drawer, right? Well. Maybe there was. It wasn't clear. You know what? That punishment for four, which is one of the reasons why when you look you've heard me tell you when you ask me about the love of my family, are we talking about families I tell these very violent stories of consequences discipline. And it'll ours people because I'm telling them and they're like their heads sometimes, people hands are gone over the math to horror movie. But then they hear he, they see much lights me up and I just love I haven't they see the humanity and and I think I tell those stories as love stories as examples of the love we had. Sort of if you use the metaphor divorced twice married three times fighting the kitchen ends up with making love on the kitchen floor they were violent and awkward moments that challenged the bubble of love that we knew we had but never had a chance to break. So I think I, tell love stories about how the love always withstood. The Love was never going to get beat or things were ever going to ultimately break up because of these very awkward and sometimes violent times. So I, think that's why I tell them because they were plenty of other times where we were look we hugged a lot more than we hit we. Were huggers man we we hung out and laughed and ate food and ate dinner every night together until the stories in kissed each other good night and didn't hold grudges and had a great time together. Lot of family up. I. Do Happen to tell those stories when discipline came as the greatest love stories of for the reasons I just said talk about lessons learned. The I got my first mom gave me my first sort of. Physical punishment for answering. To a kindergarten classmate who said hey matt. WanNa go play on the monkey bars and I yeah. And as I'm running to the monkey bars, I feel a hand on my shoulder hoop, reverse my run and slam me on the ground in the middle of the kindergarten school part and says, what's your name I said Matthew don't you ever rancher to Matt Again I named You Matthew for reason, whole playground stopped it was embarrassing and in the fall hurt and everything but I got up from that day and you've heard me many times go Matt Matthew please. Don't answer them. It's stop. I literally and I'm not I'm not. I'm not shitting I. Got chills. Always observed you react that way. and. I and I was you know I mean look you. You're fucking Megani you're not dude like we're all I mean you ought but I've always in and it just hit me. It hit me and because I've always been like, what's the big deal? You're name's Matthew it's Matt whatever your name's Jonathan or John. And now I understand that was that was it and it's been a habit of mine since then so that was ingrained in me only answer to your real name there's value in that. is that the only way to teach that value not necessarily but that's how I learned it. Next reasons I got in trouble from dad which meant usually the bill. For saying. Can't. I. Can't see a t was like the biggest set one of the top cuss words you can get your mouth washed out for using Lord's name vein in my family your mouth washed out. So for San Bunker Shit or damn. But you can't or you say, I, hate you to someone in the family. It did matter everything stops been your but over you do not say I can't do not. Hey, I, remember this my dad. A sick came in did the chores on Saturday jobs to mow the art we'd Clean Up, do the porches and stuff look was having trouble getting. Couldn't even have trouble saying it now. Long. Can Start having trouble getting to start I going dead data can't get almost goes. Molars meet. We looked at me a new route settled yet not supposed to say that. He got up slowly looked at me grabby gently by the arm walked out bedroom through the kitchen out the garage round the back yard to the shed with Alomar was quietly and deliberately lean down squatted down pulled a couple times didn't start. He found a little gas tube that wasn't hooked up. He re hooked it up at the gas pump a few times but five minutes later cranks up with the motor running right there. He looked at me he goes. You, were having trouble. Getting. started. Yes, sir. Yes. Sir, and that was it more. I don't see you can, and that lesson taught me if you have if you're unable to do something on your own, you can even ask for help. So you're still always just having trouble. So I remember getting over that at another time I remember. Eight my birthday party, my birthday party atmosphere nine years old I think and I had heard somebody at school say Oh, I hate you. and. I was like a risky thing to say but my brother came in Jack with me and that day was stop Pat I hate you and my mom heard it. She stopped the whole book. Meal. And spanked for everybody at my birthday party and told me she goes. You do not ever use that word you never paid in your specialty don't hate your brother anyone this family. The third one fourth reason was allied about stealing the peach. Dad had stolen many a pizza, but I lied to him about it. And got and got in trouble. So if I look back at the go or the lessons I learned from those answer to your name. know that you're having trouble doing something can't do something love don't hate and tell the truth. No lie right I'll take all four of those ass weapons for those lessons. But by the way your dad. Did want to steal somebody's water truck or fuel truck or at some. which is just God he's immediately vaulted like top three people you WanNa meet you. Are you know people always ask you if you could have three people at your final dinner you know He's getting close to that table. What is your mom? There's some personal stuff in here. So I guess it's a two part question. How much of this did you? Give mom heads up our share with her or or or asker, and and what what does she think? Obviously, she's probably read it knowing hurt by read at ten times What's How did this all unfold? I gave up i. gave nobody any any heads up love that laughter I? Finished, there were some phone call I gave it to my brother rooster. He's in there. I gave it to mom to have a look at now. This is pretty much what the stories I'm telling them. What to. She absolutely loved it. She has said to me. You know I wish you would have put in there more stories. If those affectionate times we did have together as a family because the stories you put, it sounds like it was fine all the time which wasn't and trust me the. Thousands of more. Hugs than there were hits farrant right and I told you the reason why I didn't include all of those stories Why told the stories of the disciplines of the violence to expose the love that we had? And then I remember she said to quote the New York. Times and. To answer that exact question and she said what she wrote made it sound like. I winter and I go wait what you wrote. Sounds like what I sounds like. You're saying what I wrote is false. Are you saying what I wrote is false she goes oh no, no no. What you wrote about stuff is all completely true and their stores you left out I'm just saying I. Wish you would have also included and I went. That's legit. Can you write? That until she wrote that saying of everything said is true and that happened in, that's that's us. That's that's IT I. do wish she would have included more affectionate stories that were more of the hugs and you know the thing that in in this by the way for those listening or watching that haven't read it or seen it. This isn't your typical book right? This is. This is I don't. I don't read a lot of books but this is is this is something different, right? The the the. Photographs or just the images of your personal journals that you've kept over. Basically your whole life photographs, just little digital markings on their typical McConnell hey but. The whole journaling thing you know I've never had a journal ever not even for a day. Right it's it's in. But the cheered discipline that it would've taken not only to do it but to keep them. Yeah. But I don't know where you keep all this shit but. Long Cheddar chest, and want to get him on get them in a double Texas Ziplock in case wherein floods and it put them in the treasure chest in case where. 'cause it's you run the real risk of flooding your house on that Hill and Austin I know. That tell you some if Lake Austin floods that bad we're all. Just you forget your journal Forget Your Tequila Forget your steak, rub whatever the fuck you think is so special we're all dead. Fallaway by the way, you're GonNa give me the recipe for that stake on this podcast today. No. Yeah you are for I won't put it up. I promise you I won't help you sell any books. Speaking of one thing I thought was really touching. Maybe I'm getting out of order in order doesn't matter but. On this. Topic of journals I did not realize, and of course I lived with you or lived in. We were in infrequent contact living in Austin together when Dallas buyers club was being made. The transformation, which is a whole separate conversation, the transform the physical transformation. I could not believe my eyes. The coolest part of the story is I didn't know this that you had gone up. To See Ron's family up in Dallas had a great meeting you. I think you're probably just trying to you know get some nuggets and tidbits of his life as characters his you know his ticks is whatever and as you're leaving, you know clearly they enjoyed the visit and they said, would you like journal? And I mean boy. I'm that something like that has to change I don't know what the Journal said but that would have changed the whole. Performance the whole kit that is it I mean. I went to them and looked at home movies in her talked and interviewed them venda stories about him and a lot about him but that's all from the outside in. When they offered me his journal. Now they handed me the inside out plus. Is Journalists were from before he had HIV SO I. Knew who the man man was before he even got sick and then through being sick. So I saw this. In a write about in the book I saw this this this this dreamer. You know living in rural small town Texas who? Had Dreams Chicago or New York Day and like the Big Band and Jazz era and these things that were just odd that didn't usually fit together and then I saw this guy who Would write in his journal. Hey tomorrow morning you know the Johnson going on they wanted to come put two. Speakers in their home speakers in the house and they said, they'll let me do it and they'll pay me forty bucks as long as I bring the monster cable. Well, mantra cost before ninety nine. It's about thirty two miles away that'll that'll take about four gallons of gas. It's GonNa, cost me three, twenty six and he down to the penny. What he was going to make for that day labor and okay. So that'll clear me twenty nine bucks. Heck. That means I'll go get myself a double cheeseburger at Sonic and and. Have a party you know what I then you wake up that morning, these iron and his shirt, and he's having a cup of coffee and he's got his pager and he's ready to head out the door at seven thirty am and he gets a page from the jobs. They say, sorry, we're canceling that we're going with another company that can ensure the speaker input. So we're not going to need you boom he dropped. So he didn't make the money so he'd go smoke a joint or whatever, and head over psych and wouldn't get the double single because it didn't have the money, but you know what he and the old girl. That roller skated out at Sonic. They had a little thing going. Head over to the a little room and the and the two star hotel down the road after work and Shag up, and that'd be his daddy, and then he tried to gear back up for the next day we'll maybe Mars. So he had inventions he wouldn't patent have ideas he never followed through on. doodles you'd see all ready for the big. Friday night a popular guy he stayed at home he doodle in his dog on Journal Write. Half ass juvenile brock songs about somebody or something. So it gave me world into his head of who he was and gave me. It was a message weapon for the wrong. Gave me who he wasn't inside out the stuff that you don't see apparently on the screen. It's not the words that you scream. It's the thoughts of who ran was when nobody was looking when nobody was listening, what's he saying in between the lines? Who is he when he's all alone and that was the Maga of always told you this I have to have a dialogue to get to my monologue. But when I really have my man in my character, it's all a monologue. And so that diary gave me his monologue. Did you give it back. You got. Gate about yeah in the family of the film. I'm assuming did you know they they? They overall did like the film you know they it's shocking. To. Share. Piece will work. With some body or someone related to somebody and relax because. All of a sudden it flows all the excitement they wanNA, make make a movie about my brother. They WanNa make a movie about my dad does all this and Oh, my gosh. Yes, it you know said that line the book have when you can ask yourself if you want to before you do we'll like no one's ever GonNa go make a movie before will the sure this is awesome right and then it gets out there and You know Hollywood takes the story. What are they gonNA make of it. You kind of sober up on the initial excitement of God. They're making a movie about my brother and then all of a sudden it's about come out journal calling them in. This is exciting for but then all of a sudden you're like this is kinda weird. They're asking they're want to come to the house and all of a sudden it gets kinda weird and then the move comes out and so all experience for probably. Ten years of their life is being handed back to them and the world in a capsule that is about ninety five minutes long, right. Overwhelming experience. Oh what about that day? What exactly how he was? Oh. What about this part of his life? Well, we've had to convince your son's life. The best we could into ninety five minutes. It's not completely fair to do that exactly but it's not a Ken Burns documentary that goes on for ten hours either so they were overall. Happy with it and they were happy with how I overall happy with are portrayed. What makes me so proud of you is. This we're talking about Dallas buyers club came out in. Lord you fourteen thousand fourteen took a minute to get it financed and made. But which, of course. Gave you the opportunity to lose ten or twenty pounds but made the whole thing even better but But I you know and I think back to our our days of just by the way I don't know where the Miami stores are. They're not in the book now they're not. And I and I have a real and I don't Wanna I don't WanNA spend a lot of time on this but I, but I just want to say they're not in the book. It's just a lot of fun stories that that that are not in the book. That a lot of people would have a lot of very time being a voyeur to. fucking with you not share. But. We have period stories to tell but. and. It was amazing to read through the book into in you know I've watched is sort of all this happened I wasn't paying attention I wasn't listening in on your calls with your agent Jim Tov or your lawyer I wasn't I wasn't privy to that ride but the you know pre me doing our thing it was you know you Mr Rom Com then we're out having fun in the last thing I remember was surfer dude, and then you basically disappeared. And? I. Thought. Oh. Shit. Like. I don't know man would he left the world surfer dude like I don't. But then. You didn't you do a great job in the book of laying out what that was like to just wait and wait, and then all of a sudden things start coming in etc etc and then Bam League in lower when I saw Lincoln lawyer, I said this motherfuckers back. I mean I I buy love that movie and I was like but now that I read it okay. Making very tough decisions right? Not just I'm not going to do ROM coms I mean that's not that hard of a decision but calling your business manager and saying shutdown jk live in production shutdown jk live music I, mean, the the those are the tail on that. Those are real consequences for real people the courage it must have taken, and of course, newly married baby on the way the courage to say. This isn't this isn't my next chapter. and. Just. But I tell you again I'm getting chills watching how methodical it now seems. Because as I read, it was like, oh This he knew exactly what he was doing. Pretty Damn inspiring brother. Thank you look it was tough. And I talk about this in the book about. Process of elimination. It's hard to know who we are some times what it is we want to do so okay give yourself a break. Let's just eliminate the shit in our life that does not feed us and is not what we WANNA do that was a long-term version of what I did I was I was only getting offered wrong calms. I had five things on my desk two of them being production company in a music label that. Talk about the book I remember that day that my phone rang and it was from my office. I saw the number come up. From someone that I'm paying a salary. That someone those people. I'm still friends with today and you are to still friends with some of those people correct in an office invent that I'm paying the rent for it and I'm pausing to pick up the damn phone from that call. That pause, it was just a half a second what the fuck is that. Didn't answer the phone instead of to quit ringing, picked it up, call my lawyer said shutdown records shut down production company I. Just pause to pick up the phone call from that part of my life that I'm paying for obviously I gotta get rid of. So I felt like I was making be minuses in the five things in my life I get rid of to maybe I. Can make as in the other three actor for Higher Foundation family. Let's go where I want WanNa do I think wait knowns often that I'll come on I'll take a big pay cut note still don't want to hang but this rom come you don't WanNa do the wrong but if I don't if I can't do what I WanNa do I'm going to stop doing what I've been doing. Shed some tears on Camilla shoulder on that Minia night talking about what AM. I. Doing here. What are the consequences of this? How long will I be dry? There's no guarantee I'm buying a one way ticket into limbo I. Don't know if anything ever other than Rahm will come. And then I got my family whose. Common Sense who's going like You turned out what? For fourteen point five, million what are you doing? What are you? What else you've been going to do in the next two months like nothing state I'm like what is wrong with you? Got Work now, and they understood it because they know what I've made my mind made it for my you know from the inside out that it was a real decision I need to make for my soul they backed me but and Camilla's there to keep me. You know I got wobbly sensitive I went through large amounts of insignificance wanted to reach over and grab that bottle a little bit earlier in the day time to have you know what I mean. But? I. I I actually know exactly what you mean exactly what I mean. I know exactly what? You know and then then when you're looking over there and you got nothing going on, you're like, well, maybe it's time you know six o'clock yet and it's only three thirty you're like, Shit So I went through that time. Luckily I had Levi our first born son, which was a very clear compass where I was like if you if you're getting distracted. Look, the in front of you've got a I life, you're bringing us. I had you know Camilla who else fall in love with we had a certain family tragedy happened that I had to handle. Now you probably understand this i. mean you gotTa You, bring a new new child into the world and you have to go be and responsible for handling someone that you loves wellbeing. Those are so you up pretty doggone quick so Not Literally from alcohol means sobered me up from the anxiety of I'm not getting work I don't have a significantly my career I. Don't know what I'm GonNa do. That's what it so me up for from. And right around that time when I kinda quit thinking about like, what am I gonNa do because I was hand on these other things. Twenty months later after not doing anything. Guess who became a new fresh novel good idea. Under roles that he wants to do. A paper boy mud. True Detective Magic Mike. Dowse up. Lawyer, you know you got to do a bunch of Lincoln commercials for it to and. A and you grew up you know sorta half thinking. You wanted to be a lawyer but So you know it all kind of, but the the courage it must have taken dude. I don't. I don't want to speed over this at that's and I hear you man i. hear you when it's because it's it is. We've live different lives and and and you your hibernation or timeout was self. Was Self chosen. Mine was self inflicted. And but you said it right and people ask me all the time like dude how did you get through all that what? And you know for me and of course you know I had. Five kids and. And as I looked at them, I thought these they are looking at me right and and yeah if you grab that bottle at ten, a. m. versus six PM or or you, you know curl up in the corner and start crying in the fetal position, your kids are going to see that. So I was for whatever you know. Whether it's right or wrong or greater, not a I had to be a man to them had to be a father had to be an example had when they wanted to hug I couldn't be on the floor crying, right? It'd be like, let's hug. Are you gonNA play basketball scope of basketball you want to you know? I wanted to an and maybe there was a bit of an act and that I wanted to give off the perception that Hey dad dad's getting punched around here. But he's GonNa hang in there. And sometimes look sometimes. Putting on the act even though you may not mean it. Process for getting out of it going I'm just going to do what I know I need to do and I can trust this even though I'm losing my mind I know that if I do this, I cannot go into the debit section and you do it enough all of a sudden you find your purpose in it and it becomes real and instinctive again. There's many times you know we talk about this all the time. It's hard part about working out tiny damn shoes and getting at the door don't feel like it but once you do it, I know it's a good thing to do and I'll be happy. I did after saying you're really glad you did. Yeah which by the way I've just been completely slacken off just pissing me off where'd you come from? was better. Question is where does not come from? I got back last night. I was I've been on the road I. I lived out of a bag for three weeks and this wasn't one. This wasn't a McConnell. Hey Walkabout in Africa or South America this was you know I've got a got this new venture funds we're out raising the funds. So I went this GonNa, give you the trip right and left where I am now. So I went aspen to Beirut Beirut to Dubai Dubai to Sandra where hung out with our good friend. Patty McClellan, we take picture. I went France back to boulder for Max's hockey tournament for a for a day. Then flew to Houston for Luke's twenty first birthday. then I went to Nashville for meeting. Then I went back to Austin for Libya's tenth birthday. and. Then I flew to San Francisco for meetings and then I flew back here last night. Hattie. I know. Do. You know where you are ya I did this morning there were plenty days. I was like I literally wake up and like. All right hang on a second G do just do the inventory, right? You're feeling bad like the nightstand now is a little lower than it supposed to be. Where's my shit was my reading glasses were my my phone yeah, I fool. I didn't know where get what you wanted to get done absolutely. Does that does that surprise you now not at all? Mission accomplished highly intentional man you're yourself. Absolutely noushin accomplished you. Of I'm going to talk to you about this. And I think you are prepping I if I if I'm going down the wrong path at this but. You know some people like to dive off the Clinton didn't figure out having an fly. I know I like to get structured before freedom. I often like to write the headline before I read the story often like to before I do a movie what's the poster before you make the movies if it's just like an idea of where we're going Is it fair to say that you love if maybe even more so you need. That headline you need that proverbial finish line to go give me that place to go that demarcation to reach. WHO TO ACHIEVE IT? I'm getting a little thrown off because the the word headline throws me off because I you know I'm I'm I'm never went ahead line ever again the rest of my life but. If if what you're saying is the headline being the goal or the end game that's what I mean. Well I'm a always been a process guy always I I love a love the process better than the disco back. Back to my career. If on a scale of one to ten training was a ten. Were fives. All these people, all my roads I knew I was going to win. I got paid to go out there and race and win. Did. I did I have fun. Yeah. But did I lo- -absolutely love the process it's all I lived for. And so now it's it's really the same I mean what against this is this is different because in in this. Space that I found my in myself in. The process of raising the fund investing in great companies those are great process sees. But the end game there is. A zero-some game like it it it is. It's surely a question of have you performed and. If you don't perform, you don't keep doing the job in nothing would make me prouder. I'll be very clear and very simple about this. The fact that other people with my history have entrusted me and my entire team with their hard earned money. To try to make them money. If I can produce. That will be the proudest thing I've ever done. And it's in in not without an unbelievable amount of pressure right? That is not lost on me in the faith they put on me. The fact that folks have come back the fact that you're sitting here I don't I don't take any of this for granted right I know exactly who's who's on my team and not my team who's leaned out his leaned in. And Bit by the way. That's one of greatest gift you can give a man. Yeah. I mean how many people walk around and they think everybody's on their team right until something happens and then they figure it out right so it's been I wouldn't change a damn thing I tell people all the time people hate that answer as wouldn't. and. Leave you with all the time. It's like now you gotta understand he he actually wouldn't the actually wouldn't he's Engaged with the resistance that he has. Inflicted himself and he is in it, and that is you know what he's doing. He's not going to look back in dwell on. Oh well, I could I in effect then I'd be different. Now he's in it. It's live I want to ask you about this filters. One of the reasons I wrote this book. Can I just ask a quick question? Yeah. WHO's podcast is this. Yours. Now Yours. I'm the guest on your podcast. Okay. But you now have the Mike go ahead. Okay filters. I wrote this book because I wanted to get rid of some filters from I rock expression and communication as an actor I go in a character in someone s a script directed by somebody else produced by someone else lens in a camera by someone else edited by someone else and then given to you on a screen that's five filters from Iraq pressure I wanted to write a book because what well book is one filter it's the written word right now you're not talking straight stand up comics zero filters straight ahead when you're on the bike. No filter it you on the bike responsible for that. Win I, love the training. I'm GonNa Win Washes. Doing time after that when you retire where it was like, could you get the sense of accomplishment? With this with with live, strong and everything, you're doing it as as as a pillar in the world for cancer and how that wasn't an immediate. So wasn't you I needed the pedals he didn't. So now you're dealing with investments and people's there's more filters in that for your sense of achievement and self worth or pulling up it's not you solely responsible for it. So I'm happy. So happy to hear you say that you honored by position you're in and pull that off how great that's GonNa feel right because. You know that's something I'm guessing you had to grow into. It's a bit of an extension of May. It's not just me on the damn. Bike. With my legs responsible for what happens me solely, right well, a I have a few rules in my life now but. Probably. The main rule is I'm done pretending. So you know whatever it is I do right. I'm not gonNA pretend. to always know what I'm talking about and and so you know in that. Realm of my life what do you do? You surround yourself with great people. All right. Great Finance Person Great Sales Marketing Person Great Adleman a great a great team because. I can't do it myself and I don't want to pretend ever and by the way speaking of filters. This is the great thing about what we are actually doing right now. This is how this all started. Right Lance Armstrong. Ten years ago twenty years ago five years ago. He's totally fucked. because. He does not think God for twenty twenty or the modern era technology in the podcast space are no in this I tell people all the time 'cause just what you said. Right. If if you know my only road to redemption was CNN column, Mirror NBC, calling me well that ain't GonNa Happen Right. But in this space, right, I'm the Creator on the producer director on the actor on the sales per I'm all of these things and I was looking at computer you're looking at your computer. Hallelujah heard heard. I line direct line and now more than ever in our lifetime is the is the the the the private sector, all the way down to the individual have more power than ever before. Did you see social dilemma? Yes I mean as a parent I tell people I, of course, watched it and I watched it as a parent of five kids and you watch it as a parent of three and people watch it don't have kids and. I said I tell you what? Just way do you have a couple of kids and they are they get a phone or even a young kid that eventually gets a phone and? Then call me back after you watch it again. especially, it was crazy I. don't want to spend the time I don't know. Yeah and mom, and now we just watched last week and this weekend we're seeing the kids down to watch it because they can handle it and it's going to be hard but it's GonNa be eye-opening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was hoping that's for damn sure. I. Got a question because I want to just I want to confirm this is true or not, and then I'll back into this Australian experience that you had. And I I don't know I never this because I think good question. It because somebody wants told me that when you came back from Australia after being an exchange student. That you came back and you didn't break character you continued to be. I don't know if you move to a different school to have obviously, you'd have to have gone to town nobody knew you but somebody once told me that you came back. You're like I. Am from Brisbane Right My name's Matthew Yeah you want to go through some shrimp on the Bobby. Is. That is that true is rock. I kept that kept an Australian accent for maybe around a year and these had to be with kids didn't know you know they were came to Texas Austin and nobody from long from my own down nobody was there that that that knew me. So the all these other freshmen thought that you moved to fucking Austin from. Sydney. Yeah and I said you know from Longview but I've been really spent most of my time in Australia just got back and I just kept it going and you know it had its assets I mean the the girls Colic Max it too. So I kept it going and I remember when the Dowse? Disassociate, city okay. I'M GONNA. Give them my talk I talk about the accent and I started talking and and had conversation. But people be like a bit of a pause like something different and a guy. When they after about me talking about twenty five minutes stand up on everybody stopped everybody stopped quitting. What the fuck talking like that for listening to this talk I've been holding. I'll say an active and we all laughed our ass. This is when you broke character you lost me I say God. Yeah, I mean. Nobody, everybody in that room should have just been buying Matthew mcconaughey acting stock I mean we can talk does it that's by the way that's fucked up. I mean, did you like literally like Sir Driving to Austin and thank you know. I think I'm just GONNA keep this Australian thing going. I mean when I left, Australia? I was already sounding a bit more striking. You know. So I'd had a gun in a started discontinued bit and sale along play it and get away with it and It was working. So I was like plus you see all away I love this because I fancy myself a real accent guy like I can do accents, I think everybody May animate makes fun of me for doing but I just want to my favourite Australian joke is this and I'll say it in an Australian accent. And I'll start with get. I might. What's the difference between a French kiss? In an Australian Kiss What is it? Well basically the same. That is is down under. That's so terrible and by the way, that is their jokes. If y'all anybody WANNA get pissed me go blame the Australians. So anyways, but go back to this experience because it sounds. Like if. I never wanted to be an exchange student but I think a lot of kids like that'd be dope I'll go hang out and Australia highly suggest it. Yeah. Well, it I like the final product here but. It didn't sound like it was all that it was cooked up to be. It was a whole lot more than it was cooked up to be and not. In the way that I. was envisioning. So. You a little backstory that I'm graduated high school in our family this high distant family the rule was you follow every rule you get the consequences until you're eighteen, the day you turn eighteen in our family you apple freedom no more curfew. The word line was if you had to learn it yet, you're not gonNA. So I'm eighteen. I've got straight as in school. So mom and dad or super happy I got a car it's paid for I got a job. I got forty five bucks in my back pocket. I'm dating the Besson Girl School and across town I got four handicap in golf I just got two holes in want my senior year. I'm rolling things about green light. I'm Roland my mom comes into I. Do you WanNa be exchanged to? There was Sweden and there was Australia I said. Beaches english-speaking Elle macphearson Australia here. I come the next thing I know? I'm receiving a letter I have a host family over there I. Have, to really looking forward it to you come into staying with this live will spot here on the outskirts of City GonNa love it great here I go man band I get. Oh there. And all those affluence is that I had came to a screeching halt. We were not on the outskirts of Sydney unless you say on the outskirts of Sydney is about three hours away from Sydney while inland in a little farm town. Off. Of Two dirt roads which came off of black tops, which came off of two lane highways, which came off a four lane street which came off a freeways into Sydney. Three hours away and we pull up to this house in the middle of nowhere and EAP I'm back in school in the eleventh grade I've already graduated school. I've passed all the tests, but they put me back in the eleventh grade because it's mid semester and there is thinking was you'll get to know these kids in eleventh grade in the second half of year here you'll go into the first semester of the senior you within. They're all wearing A. Suit what do you call outfits for school there button ups in the shorts and I'm not going now am wearing jeans and boots. I. Don't have a car I don't have a girlfriend I don't have my golf clubs I don't have a job. I don't have friends I don't have the family. And the family. I'm with started notice a few things that I'm feeling are Kinda odd. they do have a curfew now, very strict curfew and going to school and the teachers are given me fs because they don't like me use of contractions or cuss words I'm GonNa look like I know how to spell cannot see an ot I pass that class. I'm using the word in a posh routine because I'm I'm I'm writing creative writing your note don't care S. So I stopped skipping school and going to the library find the poet Lord Byron and my only friend at the time were using. It was a maxi. Prefab. Inaccessible kick and used to rattling So I, got a Walkman and I've got those three cassettes and I am listening to them over and over and over skipping school I'm also finding that. While I'm Kinda losing my mind. I think everything's okay. It's a cultural difference but you know why I'm not running six miles a day. Well, I think I'M GONNA, come celebrate for the rest of the you know what I think I'm going to become a monk when I leave here and go free Nelson Mandela. And I don't know how to be a vegetarian I'm eating a head of lettuce every night with on it I'm down one, hundred, thirty, eight pounds celebrate. But at the same time every night I'm leaving the dinner table five thirty to go back my bathroom put on my Walkman listen to music read Lord Byron Jack Off Every Damn night like clockwork man before I'm done before the sons even set. So while I'm thinking everything's fine obviously when I look back I'm going like no everything was not fine. But you know I have anybody to I didn't have a friend to call I. didn't have anyone to write I, writing myself fourteen pages letters and then returned myself a fourteen page letter to the fourteen pages that I wrote myself. So I was really forced inward. Turn to come up with the my sense of reality right and wrong who I was find my identity. and. There was a moment that came about four months where this family asked me to call them mom and pop. Write about it it's very well described in the book. Thank you. Was it was it was an awesome moment for me because. In my being lost in going insane finally, something had been put him trying to me that I had clarity about and that was that no way I have a mom and Dad I'm not calling anybody else mom and dad that was clear to me and I needed something to be clear about at that time and it gave me a stance gave me identity gave me purpose to stand up and go no. I have a mom and dad. and. I remember I said this funny thing that allows right about the book when I don't know why like I needed to contextualized that. I remember going and they're still alive. Like that matter. And That I went to bed that night calling everyone by their name and went to bed. Well. One of the one of the family members quite hurt that I didn't call them on Dad and my mom next morning was a screaming voice about me not calling them by the and. This person was hurt. Then I was hurt because I like this family we just were missing ships in the water in and but at that moment that clarity is what I needed and I had to find it on my own. I didn't have a friend or my mom and dad or brother to go hey, is this cooler not that they're no, it was clear to me and only I decided I chose for myself. And that was a special moment that led to me finding some identity in that year when I had no one else to rely on to help me find it you went out for that run and the tornado and. The guy from the Rotary Club he's like in the Rotary Club. To six mile runs in there was a frigging big ass tornado. This guy was yellow and red in the middle of the afternoon and winds were blowing. It will ever forty miles jock all the way to his house and knocked on strike night. What the hell you dealing shocking. To An idol not Newcastle road. Jogging like, yeah he's a can come in and I remember I wouldn't wouldn't I didn't want to. Feel. Or portray that I was any kind of victim and I wasn't even sure if I was but I remember going. There another family maybe that could live with. Economic Times. toughy. I. It's kind of tough and I looked like if you can. Please and he looked in my eyes and for whatever reason those. And the next Thursday night. Family, a a man and his wife who I've been working for him as telling aides at bank said, they would take me on to go in their family. Same part of Australia middle area same air everything was in the same area. I never got a nurse, all McPherson or those beaches I was talking about. You have seen the beaches. It's who who delivered the message to mom and pop. The Oh. Well, that night was very clear. I had a meeting with. MOM and. Pop. And the president of Rotary Club and the man whose house about to go move into the present mouth staying with the Dooley's as their named in the in the book were there in the conversation we agreed next Tuesday night will come over and pick up matthew and he's GonNa. Come live with us. Thank you for having me on your house this long. It's been a wonderful stay the president dad that was living with in the house. My Mom's like this is great. He's been. He's been a great ambassador to the United States. He's been a top kid. Didn't talk young man. All Great. We shake on its understood clearly the president of the Rotary Club even says it out loud to the entire rotary members matthews leaving silence show to deliver since it's clear well, that's on Thursday night we ride home not a word set about me leaving Friday. Not Award said about me leaving Saturday nothing Sunday, nothing Monday nothing now we're Tuesday this is the day that this night this man's supposed to come pick me up to take into the new house not one word has been said in the president land with me leaving not one. Weird. Berry we go have dinner. Five, o'clock, eight till about five forty clean, the dishes I'm going to get picked up at six thirty saw was going to say, we know what happens after this party Them getting picked up at six thirty I don't have time from other nightly ritual. Music. So. The dishes, I go back to my room. To check my bags that have been packed since last Thursday night make sure I've got everything and of course, I do because they've been quadruple jet. And getting, knock on the door, my bedroom and who's there. The man of the House the pop. Handset visible by the. Way decided that day you'll be staying with us for the duration of your stay here in Australia son pack your bags, and I went again at two zero. Thank you. But to my euro here I want to go experience with families and as you know, we've already worked this out I. loved the put his finger. As I said, unpack your bags you staying with us for the duration to be staying straight. And I lost it. Through a left took through the door pulled it out of the plywood. Arm Bleeding chard to. Plywood coming out. This man said. Radha you better get your. ASS OUTTA my face. or I'm going to beat you to the ground, take you in the driveway and drag you along the gravel driveway. So long and so hard. You're going to be pulling rocks out of your buck and back to the date. And I was just spitting mad and he had. Backed up and walked off and I go back in the room cleaned up my arm and breaking a sweat and go fuck was that man what's going on? And then I hear Horn. Bit. Six. Thirty guests is there to pick me up. Your Savior Save, your rights I get. My bags are rolling down the hallway through the room through the kitchen out the garage to the car and guess who's in the driveway glad-hand in the guy's GonNa pick me up the whole family I was with the guy just said, I'm going to get heyzer all dropping tears all you've been the grind Hispanic. So special the you've been just an absolutely top top top exchange student. We couldn't have enjoyed it anymore and I'm twilight zone mangled what can. Psychopath. So I in our and leave the rest of the trip. Was Much Easier But I learned those surreal valuable lesson in those four five months that I was with that first family that I'm could easily say, I, don't believe that'd be sitting here talking to you with the life I have right now if I did not have that time in that first family where I was forced inward and forced to figure out how to survive in somewhat keep our sanity. I would have lasted about three days. I don't know I knew going through it memory until the top of the story when I left the Rotary Club wanted me to sign a contract and I left America to go when we signed the contract that they get every other students sign, which is I vow to stay for the entire year unless there's a tragedy or something and I said I'm not I'm not signing a piece of paper. On as I look I'm going for the year shake your hands on it and I, shook on and had some sort of honor and pride that there was no that was non-negotiable for me. And while I was going, you know losing my mind there in that first family. Underneath a cat when I go to bed at night, something kept eating at me going like there's a reason for this. There's an. Infidel parachute yet kind of don't pull it see if you can atmosphere the situation. And I'm overall I'm glad I did yeah. Well, if anything comes out of this, I know the man better than most anybody listening watching. He is a man of his word, just leave it at that now. You touched on it and I say touch and it was a very brief mentioned in the book and and I want to. Tread lightly here and I. Don't I will go or not go wherever you don't want. There is mention of some episode in Australia as you were unconscious which I is one of your closest friends. Yeah. I mean this is the great thing about the book. I read the book I'm like. Holy Fuck I know five percent of this guy. I mean which is an amazing compliment because the five percent I know is a tin. Hers. But I did this are we talking about the same? No? No. No. This is what you're speaking of is, is I want I want to again I want to tread lightly it's it's it's come. It's come up. I mentioned the beginning of I was molested knocked unconscious in the back of a van that was not by any of these people talking about or that family. This was a completely independent scenario, but it was while I was in. Australia. I didn't go into details of that in the book. No. You know one in you know in the same way that there's many stories that are are of great. Fun and revelry that that that I've seen that you've seen that we've done together that I didn't share. So these stories are not my story to tell and other didn't include or included details is because I didn't have any. There's nothing constructive. To deemed get out of him and what I mean by that is that situation or the situation, which is true which I got blackmailed into having sex for the first time. They've pretty clear to me at the time. This is wrong. I was not confused. I knew I had come across across a circumstance my life that was like this is an aberration. This is not who I wanted. This is definitely not okay for me or the other person, and this is not ideal by a long shot. But to tell the details of the story would offer up in my mind. Again to that your word Voyeur for for the public to sort of be a year on that situation when out of those stories, Adam have anything constructive of a lesson I learned. Beside saying well, that's wrong and you're gonNA run into things that are clearly wrong in life. And how do they define you? Do they make you go all? That's a one off making sure that doesn't happen again, and that's not ideal that isn't how I thought I'd lose my virginity but is that GonNa define me other than not I don't know what the constructor stories out of that that will let me let me let me define it for you and it boils down to a word of already already use to describe it in it's called courage. Okay. You're right. Who needs to get it into the the WHO wear win what? the fact that. The the power in stain that and leaving it there. Right. How Easy Matthew, would it have been to just leave that out? All Right? How easy would it have been for you to not just tow just re rephrase your answer second ago said, oh I had a lettuce and ketchup sandwiches I want and listen to youtube rattling home and and read some poetry and went to bed. And leave out another part of it. Is. More true in funny. Well but It. It has the added benefit of being true but it takes unbelievable courage and net I. You know it's it's fact Marianne? It's a lot to unpack I'm telling y'all in speaking to the listener. You gotTA check this book out. This is this is not what I expected man and I was watching I watch all your shit you know social media and I'm like talking about this book come on. Man. This was not what I expected. And on on every level, let me ask you this because in the writing of it. I remember day four. was in the desert. You and I know what place I was at cabin is out. I remember writing down okay. Come on your have some form celebrity that has equity going to put a book I. Understand why people want to publish the book allender some people going by the book any book you write whatever words you put on the paid some people are not going to buy the book because you wrote in Connie us it is. Obviously isn't about my celebrity and I remember writing the words on the page needs to be worthy of being signed by anonymous. But at the same time be a book that only I could have written and that became sort of my relatives sort of Northstar at least as far as quality control of what I wanted to put out there in the book. I found that the more personal I got. The more dive dug deeper personally where I got subjective. This happened to me how I felt. The more felt relatable. To anyone else that might read it. So how much questions? How much of the book did you read and go? Oh, this is memoir McConnell I'm learning stuff that amount of renew and how much the book do you go Oh I've got a similar story different than I. Approached this way or he began hate triggered me to think about something in my own life this way. In a different way maybe or the season. So, are you're asking me about process? 'cause you're asking me about process. I love it. It's all about the process. Now I don't I don't know frankly that I would have the. I. Don't know that I could go out in the desert and you know with with the mindful of thoughts and say I'm going to to to collect all that and to be disciplined enough to go through that process to to structure things this way and that's why I mean it's so different. I don't know how you did it. Of course, I didn't get straight as either. But Yeah but you've always been a man of. But this is all we're buddy. That's the we've done. You'd say stuff and you'd want to go I mean we'd be out on runs out in. The one hundred degree temperatures and Austin. Out there over the a mayfield part. What does that park we'd run through and you know fucking sweating our ass off you like Hey y'All wrestle. I said what? Is a come on. What are you talk? Come on right now you may. We're going to wrestle right now. In the woods. I'm like you've lost fucking mind and you're like, no, we arrested right now. Mike. I guess we're going to wrestle that. But the the the they broke the mold after brother, they broke the mold. And then. Exercise you know a good wrestler magic go run some muscles. Hey, we're getting arrested matches stretch another muscle. Is. happening. About a body and then you know, of course, I tell the story all the time and you know I, we start going you know dinners and then the group grew and you know, would it be ten of us around you know of course you know I was just coming up in the biggest athlete in the world and you're one of the most famous actors in the world and one point. Fuck People magazine the most beautiful person in the world wherever they name to. So their years you and I walk in with eight homes. And we're sitting at the hottest spot in La. And you're like, all right let's. Bring in. Mike with what's he talking about? Okay. Everybody's holding hands. And saying not so much as a prayer because most people no I'm not that religious matty I'm not I'm not there I don't care if you've got to say something thankful for. But it's Just, sitting there of course, I can't I can't deny that wasn't like looking around going on who the WHO's looking, who's taking pictures now fast forward to other trips were just you and I and I was like Oh thank God there's not ten of us. And we'd sit down and he'd say. Let's bring it in. Just two of us. I don't care. GimMe, we got a hold hands. You may GONNA hold hands right here across the table with all these people in this restaurant you're like, yes. It was you know of course, the answers? Will. The answer was green light. I mean, what am I gonNA say like? No Red Light McConnell. And it was just it was. It was it was a great period for me and a period of A. Of being able to express what you're thankful for. And I, always say. It. Does throw some people off and look look at the very least. It makes the food taste better in I mean at the very least. Or not. Share something that thankful for which is something that we always. Forget to do and we have. People not limitless things to be thankful for in this kind of Nice to check in a little bit and bring them up and. We have that in our foundation where the where the kids all sit around the circle and say something to save their thank before and these are title. One schools were lower income families, not the best neighborhood and the best reply gotten from them about why they love gratitude circles they go for the first time in my life I'm hearing my peers say thank you for something they have in their life that I have in my life that I've never been thankful for. Now. I'm reminded to be thankful for it. So it's just A. Gratitude, nice reciprocity tool for shore. Yeah and you can you speak a lot in the book just about. The religion and your beliefs, and of course, this came through and spades. I was you know if he was he religious thanks so that things more spiritual than religious. I think as we get older have children, you know put things change in shift, but it comes through loud and clear in the book whether it's you know staying with the monks or or being an Africa and hanging with people studying Islamic. Your own upbringing the it's it's cool and at the yeah. It's just about the translation I know you gotta run I just want to ask a couple touch on a couple of quick things and one of them is personal to both of us but the Bongo incident I got a we got to touch on just for sex because there was everybody knows the story yeah. Everybody knows the story everybody certainly everybody in Austin knows the story. And you know there's just as as it's written in the book. There's so much more to the story. You know the the urban myth is you know Bob by. The fact that they come blowing down the door and you're in their mind, your own business in your birthday stewed having a you know a couple bong hits plan the the the bongos. Not The way that it was portrayed in and I can relate to that but I didn't know that you just basically went all the way to the jail completely naked. Yes. I did not know and I'M GONNA. Read this. I'm GonNa read this this short paragraph. So they're wieland you're not wheeling they're pulling out of the house handcuffs butt ass naked. He says, they escorted me out of my house through the courtyard entry on the way to the street I'm still naked and reluctant to submit to the inevitability of my predicament I guy. Relative. And I decided, he would be a clever idea to run up the walls left and right of the gated passageway and do a somersault backflip over the corn husker cop who was the kid who that? That's not your words those remind who was guiding me from behind my thinking was that in mid-flight while upside down there I would assume pike position then slide my cuffed wrist under my butt and up in over my legs then stick the landing behind the corn husker. Now with my fettered hands in front of me, my rationale at the time was that after pulling off such an extraordinary Houdini like stunt, the officers would be so impressed that they would abrogate the arrest and set me free. Now. I don't know I don't know what was in the Bong. Might have been some willy wheat I don't know. But. I don't know what that was never going to work, but the way. Thought. It was GONNA work I. Didn't think it could work relief a book in the Pacific comes after that is a i. know that make sense Kinda stupid. But remember I been partying with thirty two hour straight it did not work thirty. Nine got I got one two steps up the wall just as my feet got above my head that corn husker got slammed my back down on the ground and I was looking up. With my hands still hang up on my back. So it was a failed Failed. Stunt but. Nixon's at the time, but but it was also totally illegal I mean that's that's the that that was totally lost in the whole story right and that's the reason as you tell them the book. your lawyer and the judge come to the to the jailhouse and I remember I remember being Austin watching you 'cause you walked out the side that the media your lawyers said Oh I got a car right in the back and get out of here. fucking. Nobody's GONNA see. Out The front because your front door guy that's green lights were and but I'll never the all the local channels air and you walking out all his ut shit and it was I guess now two days after the ut game dislike was that. Just Hook Him and I'm just like this guy, I mean zero fucks given. As as I write in a book when it became clear to me that the reason I was arrested and put in jail I was not ashamed of. Because I was like man, I've done that before and I will do that again, I will get my birthday suit banging on Bongos have in my time of bliss I have before and I will again but it was the fact that I ended up in jail and that did not feel good. I went back and I'm talking I was just raise not to end up here as you read in book my family was not as much about the diedhiou did it was like, did you get caught? You're right and I got caught so for whatever I did even if I didn't feel guilty for what I done, I did feel kind of guilty about get whatever i. Loose not got caught. Yeah you ended up there. Yeah. ended up with you deserved it or it was right or wrong your ass was in jail. So that's you. You know if God if you're you know. You know POPs was alive would have been. Nice. But mom was cool about it I. Would I would be totally remiss if we didn't talk about the University of Texas football. we had some amazing times around this football team opposite. Me got its top five moment my life. national championship unit sitting there on the fifty yard line watching Vince young and the whole crew win the national championship for the Texas and then. And then sure enough the whole half the fucking team up at your house later in the night and they're just like. So what what you can we get something to eat? What can we hear like whatever you want? In the grill comes amid what literally Believe those were the words you can have whatever you want. Yes. Let's those who get worse until we into the. Wee Hours. But where are we I? Mean we are in a we're in we're in a bad spot. Yet. We are not where we intended to be looked. This is. His fourth year. I'd always even three years ago, Tab this to be our year where I thought we would compete nationally it. Doesn't look like that's GonNa Happen has already gotten off to a start that we're like. What's going on? You know there are intangibles that have come with this year. For the team that we don't know how much to measure those to have an effect on who this team is or what our record is with. Cogan with the Cultural Revolution with the with the team the students engagement in that my hope is that. Everything, that was thrown into the laps of these young men. Outside and off the football field especially with the cultural. Revolution. Are you talking about the eyes of Texas or are you talking about just need before the text I'm talking about this though black lab movement they march to the capital coach with my hope is that all of these would would would still can bring this team together to go play with such a unity fierce. Rossi. On the field that it would be unanimously will they're just that good and they did it they play for you. Right now, there's still a bit of they're not completely. Unified. They're still subjects like the eyes of Texas that are out there, which is debate I. Don't you know I I my initial thinking on the Texas resist. You know in the name of rehabilitation. In a very literal sense if it using the term to play the word, the eyes of Texas. You. Don't get rid of the is you change the way the I see if one of us has trouble seeing you don't Gallup's the is you get classes. I my hope is that we could see how we've know the origins of that song now, which we didn't a lot of didn't know before. But Hey, let's remember we hijacked that day. It's like the Youtube Song talking about the Charles Manson. Now we're stealing it back you still from the Beatles helter skelter we're stealing it back and this is what it is and it's affirmative and it's about pride and it's about honor. And it's about what we expect ourselves in. Excellent. Open that we could hijack that and see that we've hijacked song for for for for good for unity four exits as a measure of excellence an objective eye in the sky the eyes of Texas, for who we expect ourselves to be as a team as a player as a university and have a measure of honor. Within playing. With that song and singing that song after win or loss which the best thing about that songs that you sing it and you raise your horns after you lose as well because you're saying, yeah, we may have lost the battle we ain't law. We're going to win the war. It's hundreds of two, hundred, five, hundred, thousand year war that we're in as with our football clubs. So that's still a point of contention and I understand a lot of the. Players who were like? No no, that's that's now that I know what it means something different I'm not buying that. We've completely over take I want to get rid of it. It's it's I don't know the answer I talked with Chris Kante Messa often it is messy I. It's not necessarily and we're going to see where this all falls out. It's a lot of stuff to have on young men's plates, minds and souls eighteen to twenty two year old young men. These are this is a very, this is the more significant issue, right but winning football games is one thing the significance of cultural at an institution anthem the for this in for those who don't know you know the the the fight song for the University of Texas is the eyes of Texas like so many things that you know gosh you know one hundred years down the road. So people like Holy Shit this is totally inappropriate or in the eyes of some people and so that's being addressed. Now, that's much more important than winning football games, but the team isn't winning and by the way Sam elegant I I can't love a kid more of. Kids. All. Rust like you like this kid is coming to Texas he's he's not he's a winner, isn't a plus isn't a plus you don't get any better than they plus. I. You know I. I have a sneaking feeling on that urban Meyer's for homes and Austin right now, I'll just I'll just cut to the chase. Look you know people come to me all the time. Asked me. So Hey, what do you think about the coach you have with new coach search you want so and so I've never seen nor or chosen to position myself in a place to do anything but support the president coach in place. And support him a her in a way that gives them the best chance. To coach a winning team. That's marketplace. That's what I mean by Minister of Culture, the University of Texas I don't see anything constructive about me piping up on this podcast anywhere else going well I. Think we'll look for another I don't. Know people don't be mistaken. I'm not trying 'cause. I Don't you are, but I get asked that all the time and I want to do and help the coach coaching staff and those young men and women out as much as I can to help them succeed on and off the. And as you know, you gotTa Win the University of Texas show up at ut your coach, the football team, which is the front porch of our university. You're handed the keys the Ferrari. Here you got. we You know we'll. We'll. We'll see. We'll see I. Hope I hope the team Tom and every can turn it around it. I. Think they all know it's odd. We're not talking about some elephant in the room you gotTa Win you want to be the University of Tests Well, I mean, yeah, of course. Yeah and you get you there's there's a grace period, but the grace period is up. And look I wouldn't want to be in his position But Yeah I mean, this is the high bar. It's University of Texas the highest back on purpose. Yeah Yeah but. anyways. All right. Well, look I. Know You're busy you got gotta run has been first of all how long this has been the longest podcasts that I've. Done in a while maybe ever on the forward for our. Hours, we'll do a part to for anybody we'll commit out commit to a part too I mean I have a bunch of you and. We'll talk about when when when I said. Five minutes. Five Oh you're. You're fucking lucky I didn't tell that story. Okay. But I mean I like Your Dad's Save Your Dad's saved a cockatoos life doing mouth to mouth resuscitate resuscitation like how do we? That's all going to be in part to folks. Brother Hey. Just keep living strong. WHO DOES We do. Team and catch up. Brother. Plan.

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MBA1693 Must Read: Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey

"Washington one hundred dollars a show. It's our to make your business better every single day with our daily ten minute business lessons for the real world. I'm your host your coach. Your teacher omar's and home almost all the co founder of the hundred dollar nba. The complete business training and community online in. Today's episode is a must read episode. Honor must read episodes share with you a book that i've read the has influenced me as an entrepreneur as a thinker as a person on planet earth. Ashir with you it's insights takeaways and why you should read it to. Today's must read is green lights by matthew mcconaughey matthew mcconaughey reactor now. I know you might be thinking. What can math mccown. Hey the guy from lincoln lawyer and failure to launch from wolf of wall street. What is this guy going to teach me about running a better business or having a more fulfilling entrepreneur career well. I was surprised how much i learned from this book. I had no intention of making this a must read. If it was a good book it was just a personal read. But i learned so much about how i can improve myself as an entrepreneur and therefore improve my business through this amazing read. We'll talk about some of the things that matthew mcconaughey learned along his career. How you can apply some of the things that he did in your own business and your entrepreneurial journey and wise a book called green lights. I'll also share with you some little things that he does in this book that make it an entertaining read. The may wanna think about next time you write something with those. The blog post an e book or even published book like matthew mcconaughey. So let's get into it. Let's get down to business support for today. Show comes from start. Your first online business might all new ten part audio course on himalayan learning this is of course is going to get you from zero to one. That's gonna get you from thinking about your business to actually launching that business getting it out of your head and into the real world. Recover things like validating your idea creating your first product pricing it marketing financing your business even create your business website and more check it out at himalayas slash nba and use code nba to get a fourteen day free trial again. That's himalayas dot com slash. Nba promo code nba before red. Green lights by matthew mcconaughey. All i knew was. This was a collection of stories from matthew mcconnell. Hey is sort of his memoirs or some of the things that he's learned so far in his life. I also knew incredible reviews. Some of the reviews that i saw online and on amazon. Just made me say. I gotta buy this book. I gotta read this book books like this. Don't get that kind of claim unless they're really really good and i have to say after reading it. I am so glad i did. The i want to say is that this is such an easy read and if you love the way math mika tell stories if you like him as an actor you probably enjoy on audible. He doesn't aeration so you'd really enjoy in audio form. It's one of the easiest books i've read in a long time. It's so entertaining so easy to kind of follow along there are no lulls is not Extensively long for no reason. It's not overly preachy. Or boastful. He's actually pretty humble and a lot of advice he gives are just really honest and just really fundamentals of living a fulfilled life. So what are some of the takeaways. There's so much in this book. I don't want to just throw them all out here. I want to leave you with some so you can discover on your own but here are the big takeaways about this book and how you can apply them to your own journey as an entrepreneur into your own business as you move forward this year takeaway number one has to be the a big reason why matthew mcconaughey is successful as an actor as an entrepreneur. Himself he is an entrepreneur because he has a big stake. And he's a part of his own whiskey. Company called walter. A big reason for success is that he loves experiences. He's not afraid to fail. He tries different things. He challenges himself as you go through the book throughout his life. He is always looking for ways to broaden his mind to get better to learn to have an experience and this opens up so many doors at opens up so many opportunities for him whether he was a teenager when he went from texas to australia's an exchange student or additioning for his first role in a movie or even how he met his wife. One of the things you learn is that you just are going to have more chances of success in life in business if you give things a try if you try different things if you open up the doors. A lot of us were very television. A lot of us. And i'm thinking to myself. Sometimes you know where you just do the same things over and over. You're not open to other experiences. You mean go to the same places to eat may go to the same holiday nations. You might even speak to the same. People have the same friends. You really are closing yourself in the more you open yourself up the more you meet different kinds of people. You challenge your thoughts. Challenge your ideas and more you try different places to go different opportunities. Challenge yourself to do things. Maybe you didn't do before get on stage. In an event do a webinar be a guest speaker at a virtual summit. Take on a new hobby. Whatever it is it's going to teach you something. And that's what he really talks on his book is that sometimes it's not gonna be fun. Sometimes it's gonna fail right your attempt to do somethings gonna fail. But you're gonna learn something and it's gonna open up an opportunity to for you to later on reflect and say. Hey this built character in me. This built an element of my personality in my skill set built an element of resilience that i didn't have before and because he does so many things and tries so many things he is able to develop and improve quickly. This reminds me of robert kiyosaki. Rich dad poor debts author and his theory of fail fast. You know don't be afraid to fail. Just get it over with fail fast try things. Do things learn how not to do something and then go ahead and do it. I mean you're going to read about amazing experiences yet. Throughout his life whether it's floating down the amazon river or going to africa and wrestling with a local wrestling champion or following his dreams literally following his real dreams. He hasn't night. Just try just to see. And i think having that openness really allows you to grow allows you to really have chances to improve and make relationships that can benefit you in the future. The only thing. I really loved about this book is he. Had these little side notes that went on like bumper stickers he loves bumper stickers and he makes up his own bumper stickers and the really just short pieces of advice and they're like a summary or a takeaways learned from sore he just shared and it's a good way to kind of put things in a boat are tied up. And just say okay. Here it is. This is really what the learning is from this story so such as giving you stories for entertainment it actually is a learning moment and i love the way he can wrap set up in a bumper sticker another takeaway that through many stories he shares in the book he puts himself in situations were. He's forced to actually learn and deliver on what he needs to deliver on. He's forced to have an outcome whether it's auditioning for a par then maybe is a little bit challenging something that he's not ready for but by putting himself out there he forces himself to read the script and get into character and make his own by saying yes something that he's not really maybe qualified for even he forces himself to grow and this actually is applied in a lot of stories that he shares in life not just in his acting career he shares the story about his trip to europe explored europe and he really didn't have a plan but he just said i wanted to do this. He goes there and he fears out a way to make a happen. Sometimes we need to do that to ourselves. We need to put herself in a situation as they. Hey you know what. I'll figure it out. I'll do something. Make it work in our own businesses. A lot of times. We don't do anything unless it's super calculated and thought out almost to a fault were when we do take action. It's just too late. We're we're behind the curve. So what we wanna do is just throw ourselves in a situation. Sometimes it doesn't mean incredibly high risk to say i'm gonna go for. I'm gonna do it and i'll figure out a way to make sure i'm successful there. This could be Announcing to your e malysz that you'll be writing a book and be releasing it on a certain day. This hold you accountable. This is making you feel like. Hey i got to answer the bell right. I got to answer that ring. And make sure i do everything i can to hit that deadline and not let down my audience and my email list put yourself in a situation where you have to succeed there is no other alternative another interesting takeaway that i kind of picked up from this book. Is that math. Mcconaughey actually enjoys a lot of alone time. He enjoys a lot of time on his own reflecting journaling going on roaches. Hit him and his dog. He likes company. Likes being around people. But he feels like when it's all you're always with somebody you don't get a chance to reflect to think to evaluate your ideas to make decisions about what you to do in life and what you believe in more to work things that you've set out to work on whether it's personal goals things you want to work in within yourself or your actual business. Goals focused alone. Time can really beneficial and you should try to carve out some time even just an hour or two a week where you get to have some time just yourself and be comfortable with being by yourself because this is where you can really reflect think evaluate and really have some what is called deep thinking or deep thought or cal newport puts it deep work mentioned journaling. That's another takeaway. I started journaling again. After hearing this book because i really thought wow he was able to put this book together because he journaled throughout his life nine journal every single day but his life is pretty much journal the has not has a memorabilia has pictures and he used all these notebooks that he you know Filled in the years. He's been journaling to come up with this great book. Our memories don't service so well it's funny. Because he shares stories. Any reflects back at pictures or looks back at His notes and realizes his memory is actually pretty flawed. And we'll actually happened was different than how he remembers it so even if you just take five minutes a day and don't be yourself if you skip a day of you miss a day I just trying to make a habit as much as possible. So if i miss a day i just pick up the next day and i don't beat myself up just keep writing just keep journaling and even if you have nothing right about just be like. Hey this is what's going on my mind today These are some of the things i'm planning to do next week. And it's a nice record of where you're at right now in your life. Maybe you're not gonna use it to write a book in the future but it's nice to have it's your legacy it's a snapshot of your life that maybe you can get passed on to the next generation and beyond more on today's must read episode before that let me give low today sponsor webinars. We know how well they worked to generate new business for coaches consultants and other creators. 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And i'm not gonna to really do it justice but i'll give you a summation or i'll basically paraphrase what he said when he says green lines he's referring to traffic lights ren- means go and he believes that there are certain events in your life. The things that happen there are like a green light moment where it says. Hey you're on the right path. Keep going keep doing what you're doing. Keep striving keep moving in this direction and he talks a little bit about how to be aware of these things to be aware of. When an event is a green light he also talks about what to do with yellow lights and red lights in your life. Are those necessarily bad. Will those ever serve you in the future. There's a red lion me no or maybe it's just no for now and you're not ready for that opportunity. You're not ready for that experience. Maybe it will become a green light in the future. I'm gonna let you read the book and find out guys. Green lights was such a fun. Read i've learned a ton about his life. I've learned a ton about how i need to make some adjustments in my own life my habits to be a better seeker of opportunities. A seeker of new challenges a seeker of new experiences. This will make me a better person. Only entrepreneurial made me a better business owner. Thank you so much for listening to the one hundred show. I highly recommend you pick up green lights. Either on audible or kindle or paperback or hardback. It's a great great book if you have not hit subscribe yet on whatever app you're using to listen to this podcast go ahead and hit subscribe. It's absolutely free. And by hitting subscribe you access to over sixteen hundred business lessons in our archives so go ahead and do that now before we go. I want to leave you with this success. Leaves clues learned that from tony robbins. And it's so true methods. Connie is very very successful. He made the most out of his life. He came from very simple beginnings from a small town in austin texas. A blue car Family and he had all the excuses in the world to give up so anybody that you have any level of respect for what. They've accomplished read their story. There are going to give you a few nuggets. They can help you along the way. Thank you so much for listening. Check you in tomorrow's episode. see then take care.

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"It takes so much courage to receive and let ourselves be happy." - Daily Dose Minisode

Don't Keep Your Day Job

04:01 min | 3 months ago

"It takes so much courage to receive and let ourselves be happy." - Daily Dose Minisode

"Hey guys kathy so welcome to one of our many episodes. We are going to be bringing you up dose. I wanna be here with you every day. I wanna be that one person who's always in your life to bring you home to yourself to give you that little bit of the break in the clouds to show you. Yes you do belong here. No you're not broken. And yes you're needed and i'm hoping that each day there'll be something that i have to share with you that will encourage you. That will inspire you. That will make you feel less alone. So here's what was on my heart today. Let's take a listen. I just want to say that we all are so damn good at punishing ourselves. I just wanna say it because this is called an upper limit. Okay it's like you felt there was a feeling of like. Oh my god are they gonna love me so and then you do it. And then they do. And you're like oh so relief in that department. But i can't really be deserving still of the love right so what could i possibly do now to punish myself in some way right so i'm not having a fully receive the that i could actually be me and be happy and do what i wanna do right and so we will find. We will find a way to cut it off at the pass. You know i was interviewing matthew mcconaughey like a month ago or so and it was like this amazing just moment and he was so easy to talk to and it was like. I don't know it was just one of those moments that felt a little surreal and so it was fun and then i called my friend the next day and i was like husband bubba bubba and she says you won't allow yourself enjoy your life like you. Were so happy yesterday. That you had to find a way to rob yourself of your happiness. Because what what what what why. Why are you talking about that. And i started to cry like you're right and she's like maybe you can't receive it. It's just too much. It's just so good so it's like we know that's the problem. This is still a problem. It's like maybe it's not a problem but you have to punish ourselves like it's and we have to let go of it because my god you guys. It takes so much courage to receive and let ourselves be happy. So what if we all really really thought about our upper limit and how scary really giving to ourself really letting ourself have our joy like this really is what it comes down to so foreign that we are like no. That can't be it. It's just something else right so good for you. It's fascinating so maybe maybe you're going to get everything that you wanted. And then what you'll have a lot more interesting problems to solve. You know you'll be busy thinking about how to serve more people and how to keep creating different aspects of this and that will be where you're spending your attention not fighting against yourself all right. Well i hope you guys are going to enjoy these mini episodes. If there's something that you need to hear if there's a question that you have if there's a certain particular way that i can support you please feel free to. Dm me on instagram. At kathy dot heller. I'm here for you. I'm here to remind you with complete certainty that it is absolutely possible for you to get paid to do what you love for you to feel that feeling of purpose and contribution in your life everyday because you were put here you signed to share with the world that which is uniquely yours and so if there is any way that i can help support you please let me now. In the meantime i'll be bringing you these daily doses and hoping that that makes a difference. I love you so much. If this is helpful please share it on your instagram. Please texted somebody. Let's keep spreading the love and helping people to show up more in this life with the magic that they were given.

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Matthew McConaughey | Career Arc

The Big Picture

50:45 min | 2 years ago

Matthew McConaughey | Career Arc

"I'm Shawn fantasy editor in chief of the ringer. And this is the big picture conversation show about some of our most fascinating movie stars. I am joined as I have been recently on these career arc episodes by pair of thoughtful deep and possibly very high career. Archaeologists Amanda Dobbins and rob her villa. Hello, guys, high San all, right? All right. All right. Thank you. Rob someone had to do thirty seconds in case, you couldn't tell from Rob's beautiful impersonation. This is an episode about the the life in the career and the and the essence of Matthew mcconaughey, who is of course, starring in a new movie harmony, Curran's new movie the beach bum which is out in theaters right now, and we're gonna be talking about that movie quite a bit. But before we do that we're going to do what we always do on the show. This is only the second time we've done it. We're going to analyze different stages of an actor or actress or directors career, and we're gonna talk about the breakthrough moment and the personal pinnacle for each of the three of us. And then we'll talk about the big movie that's out right now. So guys before we get started. I wanna talk. A little bit about just your personal connection to Matthew mcconaughey who has been in our lives for a long time perhaps longer than I even realized when I was looking at this guy's career. Amanda, what is your your general relationship to Makaay? Well, like his career goes in phases. And we're gonna talk a lot about I actually don't know how much we'll talk about the two thousands. But you talk about it, Matthew mccown. Hey starred he was a rom com. Idle in the two thousands, and that's a very interesting time in romantic comedies and say not so interesting workwise, but in terms of career arc very interesting time in Matthew mcconnahey career. And that's kind of how I was introduced to him or how he became a part of my life about that. And you about Matthew mcconaughey, but I was very conversant in those romantic comedies. And then I was a culture blogger to during the Kanazawa. So. It's in terms of watching an actor or a public figure reinvent themselves and have a kind of public narrative that we're all participating in real time. He's a really prime example for me. I can't really think of him without thinking of just this not even transformation, but a return to self that he experienced would you say the time as a flat circle, Amanda. Oh my God. Yeah. I would have to at this point. 'cause you all do so often, rob. What about you? I suspect that your your true relationship with with Matt Mack, which is something no in calls him. But I'm gonna call him that occasionally Amish. Micheli? What's your relationship to McConnell, 'cause I I assume it started before Amandus? Yeah. I mean, it started very simply as like I just want to listen to this person say word rest of my life. I mean, I do think he has this my favorite voice like in Hollywood, and possibly, you know, the larger celebrity sphere. I mean, I'm pretty sure my introduction him like most people my age, our age was dazed and confused and just every word that came out of his mouth just sounded beautiful for lack of any other way to put it I think following his career subsequently. I I wanted to ask you guys like the McConnell San's that term sort of implies like a really deep valley in the middle of his career. Like, Matthew mcconnahey is sort of a guy when I started following and writing about entertainment like following the arc of an actor or a celebrity in the low points in the high points like I was always kind of confused by the McConnell, and ideas, like what was he recovering from like, he doesn't really have. A Geely in that sense. Like, I don't think there's one moment. That's like a terrible moment. And it's like literally ninety seconds ago. I remembered that he was once a rested for playing Bongos today. Kid. That's the thing that happened. Right. What a like that will that wasn't the low point. But like, I was I was he's one of the first actors who I sort of perceived as having this media driven sort of rise and fall arc to him. And I could never quite figure out what caused the fall. I guess I bet you have a lot of thoughts say rob have you seen goes girlfriend pass? And or I haven't walls gold, and or forces of nature, and at you know, the back half from two thousand five to two thousand nine he's in a ladder leading man roles that are tough, and they're not gonna romantic comedies, and those are not. In any way, the essence of McConnell as we have come to understand him. And it's an interesting arc- because he basically twenty years later returns to himself. It's an it's an arc that I know flat, circle, blah, blah, blah. I get it. But it really is the Mikan science. I think more means that he. Finds his essence again as opposed to coming from some valley. It's like a a a new expression or somebody say, the, original expression. Will I think it's also about what we deem to be quality versus an meaningful artistic choices versus things that are pop or frivolous. I think particularly in that period that you're talking about Amanda, you basically two thousand five two thousand four Saharan to for the money things kinda start to go a little south there. And he's just making a lot of stuff that is moderately successful. But just not very good. And you know, when he comes back with the Lincoln lawyer and Bernie in killer Joe, and we'll talk about that period seems to turn the ship, and he starts working with filmmakers that he'd worked within the past or people who seem interesting in on the forefront of something. And so I think the McConnell San's, rob, I guess for lack of a better phrases just meant he started doing good stuff again. And I would argue towards the end of this podcast. We're actually in a phase where with the exception of the movie we're going to be talking about at the end. He's actually made. More bad stuff in the last five years than good stuff, and maybe more bad stuff than he did in that fallow, period. But nevertheless, let's go back to the very beginning. Rob you wanted to talk about about days as as sort of breakthrough. So what is it about David Waterson that that enraptured you? I mean, I feel first of all this is there is no need to overanalyze him that movie like this moment. Like he's in days and confused, really ten minutes. Maybe. You know, like just jump right? Like his delivery of the line. I get older they stay the same age. It's like this perfect mixture of like, casual and formal that's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older they stay same age. He knows the character knows how good align. It is the actor knows how good align. It is. Like, you take a little step forward. Like in that exact moment. Like, I realized that for the first time that he's wearing like salmon colored pants. Ted Nugent t-shirt. It's just this this beautiful transcendent moment that doesn't need to be belabored. But let's does this guy as a star like just right in that moment. And I the other days that I love rewatching he pulls up alongside another car like a burger joint and the two guys in the other car go off Christ immediately like they can't stand him. But the the driver of the other car a young red headed lady who I believe is Marissa Rabin easy is smitten with him. No, I got my own car. Thank listen to stick the car with now get in with us. But that's all right worry about that later. I will see their. You tell them about the new fiesta tap inning at the moon tower. There's going to be fresh kegs. And it's just I would just I would just follow this man, anywhere. And I watching it again like I feel there's a version of dazed and confused like the studio like focus groups like diluted belabored version of the movie that feels compelled to have an actual plot. And like a moral would make his character not like the villain, but like the cautionary tale at the worst case scenario like you don't wanna end up like this guy, actually like dazed is one of the things that makes it great is like it's a high school movie where at least some of the actors look like they could conceivably be in high school. And so it makes it hard to tell like how much older he's supposed to be than the rest of the people. But I I love the way that like his job is working for the city. Like he says that several times doesn't elaborate at all. But like it's kind of he's he's he's kind of lame like part of what makes Ben Affleck's CARA. Actor lame is that he shouldn't be there anymore. Like, he I think he like flunked a he got held back a few grades or something like he shouldn't be hanging out with these people anymore, and it should theoretically be the same for him. But it's not. But even at the end like when they're on a football field, and he gives the speech about like, it's about living L I V. I N like you can take that as like really profound. You can take that as kind of pathetic. Like, there's a version of the movie where like the plot is like the football player trying to decide whether to sign like the promise not to take drugs or whatever. Like that moment. Could be the football player realizing I don't actually want to end up like this person, you know. And if I agreed not fuck up like even twenty percent of the time, and I won't end up like this person. But like the actual movie can't bear to do that to McConnell. Hey, and like McConnell as performance is too. Good to even make you feel like even a little bit pathetic. Like, it's just it's a very fine line and just uncomplicated -ly beautiful thing. But like when you think about it, it's it's just. It's perfect. He's unquestionably one of our most beautiful statutory, rapists. He's just it's amazing. It's amazing how willing we are to forget that that is literally the point of that character is that he is a predator. And it's like, oh what a charming predator? You know, that is really his power like this is the first significant role that he had and it's it's one of his best roles. It's it's like communicates. A lot about the kind of actor that he is even though he's as you said, rob onscreen for so so little Amanda, what did you think of days? Yeah. I agree with you. It's just kind of an instant stardom. I was on a podcast recently talking about Pretty Woman and the power of that movie and a lot of ways it's just you're watching. Julia Roberts become a star in real time. And it's so rare to see someone in one of their first movies just like before we formed. It's kind of like, okay. You know, you are and sodas the director, and you know, how to be on screen, and like I understand the qualities that you're going. Bring to your other roles like you have just you've got star quality from the gecko. And like he clearly does like dazed and confused. It's kind of his first movie or his first big movie. But also definitely the statement for the rest of his career, or at least the successful parts of his career and people don't often figure it out that early. It's true. It's notable though that it takes a few years for him to find real stardom. You know, even though I think anybody who saw it is inconvenient came out. And it was not a huge box office hit. There's something going on with that guy who is that guy. And then he appears in significant roles, but not necessarily the lead role in angels in the outfield, which I'm sure we all know and love, Bobby Wagner. Our producer baseball fan. I'm certain he's seen it Texas chainsaw massacre of the next generation, which quite bad. He has a small role in boys on the side in which is very charming and his smaller but crucial role in Lone Star, which we've talked about on this podcast before. And then comes a time to kill now. If you're listening to the show, you probably know how much I like the John Grisham adaptations of the nineteen nineties. This was a this was a sub genre that Hollywood thrived on over the years. End of the pelican brief is one of your favorites. Pelican brief the firm is one of my favorites. I'm a big fan of the client. Rob you, and I were having a grand old time recounting some of the ridiculousness of time to kill which I had forgotten and yet still feel entertained in compelled by it's actually quite gruesome story. And if you think Waterson is a sleazebag the stuff that happens in time to kill us awful. It's it's it's essentially a courtroom drama about a man who is on trial play by Samuel Jackson and his lawyer as Matthew mcconaughey, and Matthew mcconaughey is playing essentially modern day Atticus Finch person who is like a he starts the movie out of sort of a wastrel like a slick drunk southern courtroom operator. And by the end of the movie, he transforms into this morally righteous profound. Emotionally resonant figure and this movie is really weird. I cannot believe this movie exists, and so intense, and so upsetting and also features a million famous people, Sandra Bullock is essentially McConnell as right hand woman, who's helping him with the case who understands the law significantly better than mccown as character does Samuel Jackson of courses on trial. He plays Billy Ray Cobb. Kevin Spacey is the DA who comes in from out of town and his quite evil for into Frick. Her plays. Matthew kinda his secretary Oliver Platt places legal partner, Donald Sutherland, I believe plays. His father has dropped. It's like it's not as father. But like the lawyer who gave him his start and is now a drunk sort of wasted. Right. His. Protege. His father figure who has his name is is Lucien Wilbanks sheriff some perfect Girish esque southern writing the reason that I chose this movie is his breakthrough is because it's the the first time that McConnell, hey, is in the center of the frame, the whole time the movie lives and dies by him. And because of its preposterousness, I think almost any other actor wouldn't have been able to pull it off. And of course, there's a very very famous speech at the end of this movie that we're gonna listen to right now. I wanna tell you story. Close your eyes. Tell you the story. I want you. Listen to me what you listen to yourselves. Go ahead. It's a story about a little girl. Walking home from the grocery store when sunny afternoon, so on the one hand, I remember seeing this movie for the first time in being in tears. I remember feeling like this was a profound moment in American cinema history. But you know, the what if she was now picture she's white. It seemed like a revelation the time I was like man, and that's really the problem with with young white men. Upon reflection. It'd probably has an age that well, rob. What was it about a time to kill it struck you? Well, now, I'm in tears, Sean. I have I I figured I would just do my top three favorite moments from. Number three's tie between the way he pronounces the word defendant, which he says several times it's mesmerizing, and it's tied with the fact that the judge is named judge noose. I. That's his name. It's it's a metaphor. Number two is when Matthew mcconnahey leaves court to personally punch, a hooded and robed Klansmen in the face in the midst of like, a m- molotov. Cocktail throwing race riot. That is transpiring outside the courtroom. This is halfway through the movie the two and a half hour movie. This is after the first of several burn crosses and before the sniper attack. That's number two. And number one is when the clan burns his house down or like blows his house up or whatever. And Matthew mcconaughey is sitting in the wreckage afterward like looking for his dog and his dog's fine like everybody's five. But he's he's crying for the second for the of three times in the movie, the third time is during the closing argument. And he while he's doing this. He is wearing a John cougar Mellencamp tour t shirt with the sleeves cutoff. And it's just it is like everybody in this movie is sue. Super sweaty at all times. Like, I imagine it was like an industrial strength barrel. Mark like, sweat parentheses sexy, and like Ashley Judd as wife, and I it's it's just an amazing performance in the midst of a ludicrous legal thriller. Nevertheless, I really like it. And I've watched it recently, I visited my brother my brother had a kid, and my brother, and I watched so many movies together growing up. We would just in front of HBO for hours and hours and lo and behold here, I am on this podcast is talking about those movies. I watched but we caught a time to visit him after having a baby and they were hanging out their house. And we were in it within five minutes. I was like we can't leave the house. We were gonna go to a brewery. We're gonna have some after noon, and I was like no we have to stay here. We have to stay in watch this movie and it holds a unique power. I think the as the center of that power. And it's just a it's just a weird artifact of nineties, pop culture. I think this movie is so weird. And this is really I must have seen him. And I was like twelve or thirteen I would have been twice. When it came out. And this was just some real with adult is with lash of just being like, wait. This is what this movie was about. And this is all the things that were happening and Matthew mcconaughey as at the center of it. So that's Petri. Listen to that's a five minute speech in the movie, it is just five minutes on Matthew mcconaghy's face as he recounts the extremely brutal and gruesome graphic details of the rape of a young girl. And it's just a goes on and on and on and Matthew mcconaughey as like the source of moral authority and the ad Matthew. Mccown has Atticus Finch knowing what we know about. Matthew mcconaughey now is hilarious to me. I think it's so funny that we were like, yeah. That seems right. But I went back, and I I was curious about the contemporaneous reviews, and they're pretty positive it were and pretty credulous. And it was interesting to me. Janet Maslin review. And then York Times that was talking a lot about the Matthew mcconnahey starpower, even then like he was really positioned on ninety six as the matinee idol and was on Vanity Fair, and she kind of made reference to the media saturation of McConnell as the sex symbol, even before you get to see this movie. And so that that and the associate of powers of him as like it's Matthew mcconnahey like almost like he's Tom Cruise. And I think of Matthew mcconaughey, and Tom Cruise is very different actors at this point in time. But in ninety six I guess they were being positioned the same way it's wild to look at. Now, we didn't know that much about him. We have not seen him naked banging on Bongo 'paparazzi photo. And so it was a lot easier to accept him in a role like this. Now, I think because he's a credible actor you could still see him in the Lincoln lawyer, you know, twenty years later still by that he could do something like this. He's because of that great voice. The rob was talking about he's he's kind of a perfect lawyer. He's a perfect speech. Giver, you know, he's kinda made for movie star soliloquy. Even though he doesn't always seem like, the smartest guy in the room. There's something that want to be close to with him. Then it's kinda interesting. What he does after this. Because when you when you pick your breakthrough moment, you're gonna shoot way into the future and the stuff that he does in the late nineties, his interesting. He kind of returns to that courtroom thing and honest, odd another also racially complicated. Bazaar only in the nineties kind of movie there's and released so close together. It's so odd that that is the tax that he took, you know, he went on to make a bunch of other movies that are kind of fine. I can't recall a big movie star of who whose films, I have skipped more often in Matthew, mcconaughey. And that's why I was kind of interesting to go through this. But you know, movies like Ed TV, and you five seven one, and then you get into the wedding planner, which is I would say beloved by a certain segment of McConnell fans. Sure, I mentioned Juliet limited moody doing this. And she said the wedding planner is one of my favorite movies. Yeah. Juliet. What am I dear friends, and my comrade in many things, but she and I differ on Ceram calm things. That's what's it's what keeps the relationship. Interesting. All these years. I would say that the wedding planner is on the top of my list. It's a fascinating artifact. Because obviously Jennifer Lopez star. And it's Jennifer Lopez in an interesting moment in her career. So it's kind of chew people doing things that are very different from what they do. Now. How about that? And we have a lot of history with them since then I it's. I don't know. It's it's a weird movie. There's some very weird. Politics between Jennifer Lopez and the guy that she's supposed to marry and then until Matthew mcconnahey shows up at no people watched it people reference, it it certainly in the canon. We talked a little bit about the mid to thousands and everything that McConnell did there. You don't even further into the future fingering through where did you go? Well, again, this is cutesy 'cause you guys pick the the ones that are obvious. But the real ones I went with magic. They don't worry about it. I really want this. What can you touch not touch? Tussin? And I alluded to the McConnell San's earlier. And I know we'll talk about it some more. But after that decade of romantic comedies and kinda weird choices Matthew Mikan. Hey in it starts in two thousand eleven it starts with the Lincoln lawyer does Lincoln lawyer does Bernie he does killer. Joe he does mud and they're they're not romantic comedy. Starring Jennifer Lopez and their little weirder. And he's kind of leaning back into the dazed and confused. Some of those are leading roles, but just kind of you not your typical leading matinee idol kind of role and magic Mike is kinda when it all clicked together in the public consciousness. Can't imagine why that was for you. Yeah. I mean, it's it's extraordinary. I remember at the time. But even now, I watch this. And I'm just like, I can't believe it's happening. I can't believe it's just like Matthew mcconnahey fully greased up. You thought he was sweaty. And a time to kill the man leaning into the voice that rob is talking about and just a total. He's not a total derelict because he's supposed to be a mentor to the other people. I think it's important that this is a supporting role we should talk more about his supporting roles going forward. But not only is it when this new phase of Makaay kind of really solidifies anything. Oh, wow. He can do some different stuff. He can be that Bongo guy on screen, but it's also when people. 'al really started investing in McConnell. Hey as this weirdo. I think 'cause magic Mike was for obvious reasons. Something of a cultural phenomenon shrews, thank you, Steven Soderbergh forever and always, but I think this is McConnell really takes off. And I think this is how you get your detective. I think it's how you got to an Oscar. I think it's how you get to its he levels up. And so it's a breakthrough to break through to greatness. Wow. You know, I chose my personal pinnacle movie that comes right before this, and it's a little bit of a cheeky pick because it's hard to it's hard to effectively organize mcconaghy's career because I think he's often best when he's used somewhat sparingly. And you know, none of us are going to choose Dallas buyers club as a centerpiece of this conversation because I don't think that's a movie that the three of us really liked very much, even though that's the movie for which he want an Oscar. I chose a killer. Joe, which is a just a very fucked up movie. Time to kill is a Curio from the nineties killer. Joe is evil as purposely evil. It's it's a directed by William freakin based on a screenplay by Tracy Letts, which is based on his play. And it's just a like, a low down dark, Texas tale of murder, and incest and crime. And there's something disgusting about it in a lot of ways and something a little bit haunting about it. But what it signalled for me? And the reason that I'm choosing it in this space is McConnell taking chances again. And I think that that's something that was missing for him from a longtime. He just funny stuff in that fallow, period. He he's very funny as as the agent and tropic thunder. I'm not gonna coat tug. You are a huge star. Right. But right now here like that kid on the playground. You know, who has life that none of the other kids wanna play with? I mean, we gotta shave your head and get you back on the monkey bars. Right. You know, that's like one of his best Meyer key roles in. He has other minor key roles at whole, you know, the wolf of all street probably most famous since as a confused so funny in the wolf of Wall Street is Mark Hanna, okay? If you Warren Buffett or if Jimmy Buffett, nobody knows if the stock is going to go up down sideways or fucking circles least of all stockbrokers, all Ghazi guys Pagezy. It's fake. Was he? Fairy dust doesn't exist. It's never landed. It is no matter. It's not on the elemental chart it. It's not gonna ordeal. Killer. Joe is a full-blown commitment to serious craft. And even if you don't like that movie, definitely portends certainly magic, Mike, which you talked about mud and the paper boy, which is also ludicrous when which he's really going for it and Zac Efron is really going for it. Nicole Kidman is really going for it. If you haven't seen the paper. Boy, I I recommend it as a as a totem of a broken society. And I so killer Joe, even though I don't know if it's like the most remarkable movie that he's ever made her even his best performance. There's something about that show us that sticks with me and indicates that whether it was out of desperation or a desire to reconnect with something originating about wanting to be an actor. I really thought that that was the where he thrived I think you went a little earlier Amanda on your your personal apple I did. And again, this is a little cheeky. But we just have to talk about how to lose a guy in ten days ladies luggage back to her place. She has alternate transportation. You call my blush. You bet. That is a really I don't wanna say important because I think it's a really really tough rewatch. But that was that represents a real moment in romantic comedies, and that is real reference point for romantic comedies that come afterwards. Certainly for the rest of Matthew mcconaughey his career. I think many people would put it in the essential cannon. I probably would too. Even though I watch it now. And it's just like it's sour and depressing, and you know, many rom coms teach you bad lessons about how to be a woman in the world, but that's really dark ones. But eat at the time, it was acceptable. And I think it just kinda instantly became one of the cable rewatch and one of the points of conversation, and he's he is really central to that. So it's it's also before magic might wanna think of when I think of Matthew Mikan. Hey for me. That is the that decade is like his kind of leading man Hollywood career until he reinvents it Robbins last time you saw how to lose a guy in ten days five days ago. I'm sorry. That's incredible. I'm really sorry. Did you make of it, man? Well, first of all the first time, I saw that movie theater. I was working at all weekly and early two thousand three late just thinking of stupid story ideas and one time I went to five rom coms in a row at the theater like I just bought a ticket for one and then snuck into four subsequent movies. That and how great that. Yeah. It was one of the worst days of my life. Was you're the reason that women aren't movies anymore. So, hey, wait a minute. It was it was how to lose a guy in ten days maid in Manhattan, my big fat Greek wedding deliver us from Eva. And I cannot for the life of me remember the v movie, and it's going to bother me for a long time. But I I I was most excited for how to lose a guy in ten days. I to found it sort of incredibly sour like, I think I've already said on here that like I hate the moment, the ugly fight moment that is sort of a requisite romantic comedy trope. But I feel this movie is like entirely in ugly fight in a way, and then like the actual ugly fight like I literally couldn't watch. When I really watched it, Sean would it change. What can I get you to watch this movie? If I tell you that there's a scene where they go to an NBA finals game at Madison Square Garden, and it's Knicks king's real fantasy. And they they the first thing that happens is they door ably yell at the refs for displaying bias toward the kings. It's like. The least believable thing that happens in the entire movie. And I yeah, I just I find it all little ridiculous. Like, it's fine. If the dog if you want to have the dog pee on the pool table, but I just believe that he can't the dog cannot also then pee on the poker table. That's one step too, far Chandi. No the plot of had a guy in ten days. This is a movie I've definitely seen like thirty minutes of on and off on TNT for fifteen years. It's not a movie that I've ever sat down and watched star. Okay. So what do you think the plot of how how to lose a guy in today's is? Okay. This is from cloth. This is what? And this is why we do this. I'm going to say that Kate Hudson is a magazine writer. Yes. And she's been given an assignment to essentially seduce and destroy an eligible bachelor story in her magazine. Is that right mostly? Yeah. I mean destroy is like that interesting choice of words that we can analyze later, and yes, she's trying to. Surprised? I don't like. I'm not going to be around for. Part of the assignment is to teach women what they're doing wrong in relationships. And so she does like all things that like women are doing wrong to scare guys away like, you know, being needy or. And like will told me more. It's like I mean, I mean, they're terrible. So one is like letting dog pee on a pool table. Don't do that bed. I mean, sure. But also it's presented in the Joe like protect his mail space. I encourage my wife to include in her vows our wedding. She shall ensure that no dog ever pee on my poker table. Yeah. There's another one where she befriends his mom with like by the second date. I mean, it's like, it's all really really intense crazy person behavior. There's like a scene where she names his penis Princess Sophia. So that's like pretty tough. But I mean, that's true. It's a real thing. I have no comment. Yeah. This don't do any of the things in this movie. But the lessons are of it or like, you just have to walk on shells around a man or else they won't like you, which is which is not great. It's not it's not the best. And then also that writing about. Out relationships is not a real career. So you have to move to DC to be a political journalist. And that's the only way to get people to take seriously in fall in love. That's a very bad lesson. Yeah. So it's not great. But they have pretty good chemistry. And I think it's also this is definitely the most successful of the many rom comes that. He did it is it feels legendary even though I don't know much about its legend. Yeah. Rob what about you personal pinnacle? I have to assume does not resemble how to lose a guy in ten days of afraid. It does not. I do. Honestly think it's true detective. Won anything anymore? This is a world where nothing saw. Someone told me dime flab circle. Everything we'd ever done will do gonna do over and over again. A little boy girl narrow. Which is sort of in the a star is born tier where it's just incredibly impressive that that character that performance that show has endured despite being internet, it'd half to death like, you know, like we between the three of us. And by that I mean, Sean made like seventy five times a flat circle jokes. Just during the construction of this podcast. Like, it's just that his performance has just been Memed half to death. And I it it still resonates. I think is true -tective is gone on the pile on season two is a little bit of overkill, but it just it did prove that delivering like super hard boiled like do you even lift, bro? Like, some Ichi dialogue is actually very very very very difficult, even for someone like Vince Vaughn, you know, and I just I think a lot about the signature detective where like they kill a scary guy. And then they have to fake crime scene to justify killing the scary guy. And there's a shot. Of Matthew, mcconaughey. Hey, firing machine gun just spraying machine gun fire over an empty field. And it's just it's just the coolest anyone has ever looked firing a machine gun on camera anywhere. And then there's a subsequent scene and the older timeline when he's like scraggly in. He's he's describing the fake shootouts to like the cops who are interviewing him, and he's like pantomime ING firing machine. God he's got this. Whoa. Dude, type expression. And he just looks crazy. And there's a little bit of Dave's and confuse sort of peaking through there. Just the two poles of that alone. I have seen those two gifts many many times just alternate bad ass masculinity versus ultimate like whole areas. Pathetic like outdated masculinity is just there's there's there's so much happening, and it's his dialogue so wordy. And so ridiculous. Just so self paramedic. In a way, they like the internet both loved it. And immediately started parodying it. But like it actually does resonate in it, actually. Has survived all of the madness surrounding it. And it it still mesmerizing now. Yeah. I I agree with you. I haven't returned to it. But at the time it felt like inappropriate use of McConnell as self belief in kind of emotional juju bullshit, you know, that there is something like photo philosopher about him that is used in a different way in the beach bum. And I'm sure we will talk about that. But it is it is much more serious and stark and grave and masculine version of it, and it's affected in the mold of this. I think otherwise ultimately unremarkable story, I think that's a very well made show with with a plot that did not live up to its attendant hype. But without Woody Harrelson, and especially Makaay, you don't really have all that much. Even if even if you had Cary Fukunaga making a beautiful thing, you still needed those guys at the center, and I don't know. It's just it's the appropriate use of McConnell, and you can. You can sense when he talks about this show that he was a big time creative partner in making the character of rust coal. You know, that he was in in some ways, the author of the essence, you know? That's the whole thing that kinda hey is always kind of his characters. His best characters are always kinda questing for something. They're questing or they're like setting the agenda Mark Hanna in the wolf of Wall Street is setting the agenda for Leonardo dicaprio's Jordan Belfort in this movie. He is he like he's really setting the tempo for the story. And the time is a flat circle thing as a gag. But it's still he's trying to make it means something, even if it doesn't you know, what I mean, that's kind of what I like about McConnell is like he's never giving less than one hundred ten percent as a performer. Amanda true detective. No, I think yes, it's good. And it's I've just been thinking a lot about especially if you were I have established at this point and woman who in the two thousands was watching him and all of these rom coms and kind of like, it's. Handsome and charismatic, but like sort of added died male lead. And then he turns a corner and becomes like true detective, bro. And that's just like a very funny referendum on masculinity over the last decade in general and not I don't even mean that in a negative way. I'm just like that's pretty funny. The other thing I was just keep was thinking of as we're talking about is that he really he has a knack for like the conic line or the conic moment, you know, even when you were talking about wolf of Wall Street. I was just imagining him like beating on his chest. Which I yeah, I've had I've had a lot of allergies this week and have been trying to dislodge them stuff. And like I have been beating on my chest. And then thinking of Matthew, mcconaughey, so, but you know, obviously time as a flat circle like the days inn confused, he like, you can think, and, you know, even time to kill like now imagine she's white which his I mean, that's a lot. But you think of him, and you can really imagine specific moment. It's and both the physicality and the energy, and like everything that he's doing is really instantly memorable in a way that not everyone has that ability. I agree with you. I wanna share a theory that our colleague David shoemaker has crafted about mcconaghy's tick, this stage of his career. He says twenty eleven twenty twelve was his contract year. He did a bunch of oddball parts, and quote, unquote, serious acting to earn the superstar contract then came Dallas buyers club for what you want an Oscar true detective that we're talking about here and interstellar a major motion picture from Christopher Nolan. Yes. And one more thing what's up. Can we play the Lincoln commercials? Yes. Let's play the Lincoln commercials. Eighteen hundred downs dude over the edge. Respect. And shoemaker said after all of that he's officially first team. All Hollywood, even if he never does anything good again. And that's notable. Because for a while. He didn't really do anything. Very good. You know, his movies. Let's just go through his movies for the last couple of years. I'm not a big fan of interstellar though, it was a big hit and is well liked by Christopher Nolan fans. And then comes the sea of trees, which is one of the all-time debacles of this decade as Gus van Zandt movie about a man who goes to visit a forest Japan in which suicide happens often, which later became infamous from Logan Paul video. Yes. But that is what that story is based on the Free State of Jones, which is completely forgotten similarly white savior complicated movie. And then he makes gold which is movie that I thought was actually kind of interesting completely came and went and then he makes the door tower, which is terrible. And then white boy Rick movie that came out last year also sort of came and went and then one of the all-time curios from January. Serenity within Hathaway now these are all movies that on paper sound like they should work the dark tower particular the long awaited Stephen King of that novel series, naval bricked, and so we find ourselves at the beach moment. Has pissed away. You'll turn on women in booms and. Talking. That's ABC's juices up here. My nugget, man. All these seeks. Start to your music. World reverberate back and forth and hit the frequency, and you and I saw it at south by. I'm most interested in Rob's thoughts on this movie. Can you explain the context in which he saw this movie for the for the people at home? I would be delighted to is this movie at nine fifty AM today. Theater was theater was completely empty. I was the only human being in the theater, I was as high as I've ever been in my life. Which is which is not true. But I did consider getting popcorn though. I didn't because it was nine fifty in the morning, but still the the thought felt elicit in a way that I felt like put me in the proper mindset for the beach bomb and probably because I knew I was the only person theater. I don't know if I've ever laughed harder for longer. I I laughed like an idiot through the entire scene. Where snoop Dogg admits his affair. I can't explain to you. Why that scene as opposed to literally any other scene in the movie, but something about I'm talking really sexual situations with your wife, like just sort of triggered me. And like, they're they're comparing the size of their Dicks relative to her hands. And it was just I just I was delighted in like, a really ugly and embarrassing way. At that. An I feel like everyone should see the beach bum. Exactly as I saw which is an in a theater alone at like, a disconcertingly inappropriate time of day like such such that, you're isolated from society. And like, I don't know if any of you played a lot of grand theft auto in your lives, but like I would play grand theft auto lot. And then I would drive to the grocery store, and I would have lost all sense of decorum in the law, and I would have to sort of actively stop myself might driving down the sidewalk and firing rocket launchers at people on motorcycles, or whatever. Like, I drove away from the theater with. Like just having lost all sense of lake society in just a very pleasant, but also very disturbing and possibly dangerous way. Like, it just it just struck me as his dazed and confused character. Taken to his logical conclusion light just L I V. I N is like an entire movie. I completely agree. The grand theft auto references not lost on me too. Because this is kind of a very low key episode of the vice city installment of that series. You know, just the way the looks and where it set and the tonality in the kind of characters that you come across the the surprising explosions, and the sex everything, and certainly the drugs everything that's happening inside this movie, which is oddly, a very slow leisurely deliberate ninety minute movie about a burnout poet who is married to an extraordinarily wealthy woman in Miami. But lives a kind of tenor in creative lifestyle on the fringes of Florida decadence. I definitely never seen a movie like it. I've certainly never seen a movie this strange with this many famous people in. Let's just talk a little bit about you mentioned, snoop Dogg. You also mentioned Isla Fisher, rob, Zac, Efron appears in this movie with a Panini inspired haircut. Jimmy Buffett is in this movie, Martin Lawrence memorably as a sea-captain with some some some some personal handicaps and Jona hill in what is definitely one of my favorite performances of the year as a literary agent. Amanda, just what do you think of when you think of that screening of the beach bum that we attended unexpectedly moved by which is just like, I don't know. I don't know what to say. Is that the moment that we were in was that just like, I was really tired. And I, you know, I everything that you guys said about the weirdness and the gratuitous everything in this movie is a hundred percent true. And I was like, wow, this is just a really romantic movie about embracing life legends. Like, I don't. Even know what like what does that say about my mindset? I don't know. I do think it seemed pretty autobiographical to harmony Crin, and who is certainly a a unique individual with a unique view of the world and does live in Miami. And I think just like wants to make art and not worry about it. And and float through life. I don't have that ability as a human at all. But I it I'd Mayer it, it seems lovely and aspirational hedonism. I think is kind of the the subtext here. Yeah. But also, you can tell that like the work means something to him, which which I do admire. So I thought I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. And you know, it's it's not some great masterpiece on like existence. But actually, maybe it is now that I say, but you know, it it's not like a heavy Wadey important MU. But I was really taken with it. And I also just to Rob's point it, it really does seem like the sense of McConnell. Hey, it's like McConnell. Hey, coming home. And in many ways is marrying like his attempts to be a leading man with his deep character actor weirdness. And they're finally together in this lovely movie where he wears a lot of really strong pattern shirts, which I also loved. I really enjoyed the aesthetics of this movie. I will say it is beautiful. And I grew with rob said to which is that it does kind of feel like the logical conclusion of Woodson which leads me to ask. I don't really know where Matthew mcconaughey goes from here. You know, shoemakers observation that he is just on the team now forever and can kind of do whatever he wants. I think is correct. But you know, Matthew mcconaughey is is not a young, man. He's going to turn fifty years old this year. So what is you know, it's easy to see what fifty George Clooney or Tom Hanks was going to be it was evident what kind of roles they were gonna take sorta though it hasn't totally worked. For Clooney, just 'cause like leading man at this point into dozen eighteen means something really different than it did twenty years ago. It's very true. But I think you I George Clooney would never play the beach bum. You know, McConnell, hey is operating on a unique frequency, and he is honestly more daring than most of his leading men contemporaries, so rob what do you wanna see at a at a Matt Mack or old pal? I have to say I really did like the Lincoln lawyer, which is sort of on the outskirts of the McConnell science, and it's sort of like a time to kill and then it's like an airport fiction legal thriller. And I think you're right, Sean, like, he's a soliloquising, you know, and he's perfect in that sort of sense. And so you could see him whatever, you know, that two twenty twenty s equivalent of Perry. Mason is you know, like, I think he can really thrive there like I I don't think that he deserves an Oscar for the beach Bom necessarily. But I'd rather he have won his Oscar for this movie. Then then for Dallas buyers club like I think this movie is much truer to his essence intruder to him. Like, I don't think dollars buyer's club is bad movie. But like, I hate that. That's the movie he felt like he had to do like it sort of to get an Oscar. It's like the quintessential I won an Oscar movie. You know, it's a man who was talking about magic. Michael get striking that those movies are one year apart like magic, Mike and then the. Next year is Dallas buyers club in like he's got to be super frighteningly gaunt. You know, it's a movie where he has to learn something like he starts out homophobic, and then he's not homophobic anymore. Like, it's green book by other means like I I've always been backed by this question of what he wants. If he sees that version of himself like the super actor Lee Oscar anointed figure of Dallas buyers club when like yeah. It's what's great about the beach bum. Is you feel like are there really 'paparazzi photos of the Bongos thing? I didn't know that I'm gonna guess after look into that. But like, dude. Yeah. It's it's it is that incident personified like into a character into a movie like what you can say about the beach bum is like it's true or to its lead actor than any movie that I've seen in years like you guys obviously spent this last Oscar season just sort of talking about like when somebody is due and just there's an era of inevitability versus when they deserve it. And like what's role is true to them? And I just I feel. Like the beach. Bum is perfect as you're gonna get in terms of displaying. What I think of is his real self as Israel character like as his idealized version of himself, or at least my idealized version of him. And so, yeah, it's I agree that you can't see Clooney in that role and subs. I I don't know where he goes from there. And I don't know where he wants to go from there. Maybe he doesn't have to go anywhere at all. You know, maybe he can just kick back break. Open a cold one checkout a UT football game. I think he's great and supporting work and being weird. And there aren't that many opportunities like the beach more, you get to be weird and have the division of harmony Korean supporting and elevating your specific qualities. So I agree with Robert like to see him take more roles that lean into that basic expression of the Bongos. You know, that's what we think of those interesting rob was talking about like. You know, what does he want? And I was like I'm kinda, hey like doesn't hear it has an Oscar, and he doesn't need to do that. And like, I don't even think he ever wanted an Oscar. But I don't know like he definitely played the game in one and Oscar he definitely did leading roles for a long time. So I don't know if I'm projecting that level of laid back Bongani on him. Just because he's so good at it. It does seem like that's his natural state, and I would like him to follow it. But maybe maybe he really wants to be a series actor again. I don't know you don't my favorite thing about Matthew mcconaughey movies us, but I get older and they say the same age. Amanda, rob. Thank you so much for chatting with me about the career arc of Matthew, mcconaughey. We'll see you soon on future episode of this show.

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"This episode of yahoo finance presents is brought to you by merrill edge self directed star trading. And get more to help you. Make the right moves. Get the perfect background music for your business. The world's biggest catalog with over fifty million songs soundtrack. Your brand lets you search by song or artist just like you're used to play whatever you want and scheduled for whenever you want. It's fully licensed and legal for your business right. Now you can try soundtrack free for thirty days. Just go to. Www dot soundtrack brand dot com and get started. It's background music. That works a life. In the public eye we've watched as hollywood icon matthew mcconaughey. Hey performed his great transformation beating typecast. Rahm calmer to become an academy award winning actor and now a bestselling author but if you ask him makaay prefers to call himself a storyteller proving it with his new memoir green lights in which he lays bare the stories and life lessons that have made him the success. He is today. Mcconnell as reach goes beyond the silver screen he's invested in startups and soccer partnered with wild turkey and ford. And he's even taken on a new role. As minister of culture for austin texas in this episode of influencers joined by matthew mcconaughey as he shares his thoughts on life money and how he paved the way for green lights over the course of his career. Hello everyone welcome to influencers. I andy serwer and welcome to our guest. Matthew mcconaughey award winning actor and bestselling author of green lights are really cool. New book matthew. Great see any so. I read the book and loved it. It's just very different. You know. I mean there's a lot of actors who write memoirs and books about themselves but this was sort of a different way of exploring your own self as a character and so i'm wondering you had matthew mcconaughey akon classic character over here and the traditional book industry over here right and then the two of them have to come together and i wonder what that was like. How much of the book industry change your thinking about how you were going to do the book. And how much did you say. No i wanna do it this way. one hundred percent the second half. I mean i went in and was very clear with my publishers and editors that look. This is what i want. This is what i think the book will be. It's it's not a hollywood. tell all i remember. I wrote this down on day two. I went away to right. I said look. I understand that me is matthew mcconnell. Hey have some equity with writing. I write a book. Some people are going to go buy it even. If what's on the page and worth a damn some people are not gonna buy it even at the words on the pager. Great because it's matthew mcconaughey the equity that my name brings into it and the platform that that inherently brings. But i remember writing down. The second was like look. The words on this page need to be worthy To be in a book and be shared if they are signed by anonymous and at the same time be words that only i could have written so that was the place where i was going. This is not me going or writing a book of me as a celebrity. This is me writing my book. And there's some celebrity in it. Because i am a celebrity So it was. It was very clear within that. That's what i. That's what i was out to right. And they were very clear with them. What the book was not going to be like. This is not a tell all book. This is not a book of me. Tell stories out of school. That are not my story to tell. And i'm not gonna add anything in there. Unless i think they could be constructive for me and hopefully others so i saw it right here and i said well as you and i said i'm going to pick this up and read it and then i had no idea new york times bestseller. Why do you think this book is resonating with so many people and why is it so popular. You know i learned something in the writing of this In had to do with the challenge that i was finding of windows the first person i in the storytelling the second person. You and the third person royal we. Well you got to watch it with the we's because you can come across as arrogant and platitude nolan elsie. Speaking for all of humanity you gotta watch it with the us because then it sounds like the writer's talking at you for telling you what to do and it gives a dislocation between me the writer and you the reader and what i found is that stuck to the i just go personal matthew. Tell the subjective you saw. It actually became more relatable to the royal week so the more personal i got the more relatable to more people it became and i noticed that if you just stick with the i and how it feels to you then it's can relate to more people so i think that's what's happening. I think people reading. There's somehow seeing themselves or circumstances in their lives that are similar to mind seeing where maybe they reacted in re in how to perspective similar or different Seeing me word different tools with which to approach certain situations that i've found gave some satisfaction that maybe they could use in their life. And i think people find just plain damn funny it is. I was telling people it's kind of like a true detective that tv show that you're in a wild ride very much. So hey so in the book matthew at one point when you're taking a break from romcom and you're just saying i'm going to sacrifice the here and now war A better later right and you said As warren buffet said on my eyes are like this. Because you know. I'm a business you said. Warren buffett says buying straw hats in the winter. So my question is how much do you follow. Warren buffett or know about him or do you own berkshire pathway stock. I don. I don't follow it much. Money man blamed lorded follows it. And i think I had read that quote years ago. but i don't follow it. I don't follow it daily I do follow sort of cultural trends. And try to disseminate. How much am i From the subjective of what happens as an entertainer in the culture of entertainment in what is now how much does the entertainment and pop culture lead trends and how much says it. Just react to trends. And things like that. And i've always been someone who has kept to sort of a docket of my own consumer reports about products and is a product. When how much do you want a product. You need a product. How much do does it product that any of us put out whether it's ourselves or would one we create invent or discover. How much are they in demand On and on there has to be a certain amount of demand in what what would be demand in a time like gobert comes along. What's in demand. Time for drought. Which in demand at a time of great affluence so. Those are the trends that i keep my eye on anything catching your eye now. Well what we're doing right now is going to be is going to remain the some extent the normal even if we are if the vaccine which is coming out soon so they say and and and if that becomes successful more people get vaccinated. There are millions of people are going to say. No thank you. I've practiced remotely do business and having interactions this way. I prefer it. So how does this experience become more exclusive more. Intimate more customized Because in many ways. I myself prefer this now with everybody. But in many ways a half. And then i have to look at my productivity which i know many companies have looked at their productivity and some of the companies are productivity has gone up to see how dabble their employees can be so you know But then i have to look across even my industry of acting which the future of theaters. What's the future of all these. Communal events was the future of my home city of austin which is a big hospitality down. Means you gotta do it hand hand and then you know. There's a version that i see that if of the world turning into a of go live wherever you want on the planet as long as you got five g you can be anywhere. We'll see how much that's the new normal. How much now is the future. Have you talked to people in hollywood much about how things are gonna go from here. Maybe starting up production or anything like that. I haven't really a lot of of my friends are still working And they're telling me that is going safely and then there's all the rules regulations at how they do it I've been more conservative with our quarantine. I've got my eight year old mother with us. I've gun my family. Three children in my wife. And i'm also in a privileged position to where i don't have saved my money where i don't have to work today to pay my rent tomorrow so i'm gonna privileged position as i am going to be more conservative with my quarantine but also noticed that i've been quite productive through this. I've employed my children now to be part of my production team when we're shooting photo shoots and shooting ads. And they're starting to get adept with cameras and editing etc. So who knows. I may come out of this and couple years ago. I've got my a one stop shop gotten kinda hang. Kids my production team. Let's let's what you want done. We'll shoot it will make it mcconnell. Hey family productions that'd be fun. Hey so getting back to the book. There is a a a moment in there. You talked about one of your films. That has a business strong business slant and you had a part in that which really resonated with people as well which the wolf of wall street and i'm wondering you know did did that change your thinking about wall street or did you research financial services business when you're doing artemis. Now is pretty epic when you just came in did that soliloquy right well that that get that debt characters so literally was awesome. I mean you know every every Try to find what's called a launchpad line with every character meaning. It's a line that you read and you go if that character means this. Then there's an encyclopedia. I could write and i'll make a whole rap on that character meaning like in days confused. There's a character waterson. I played where he's hanging out in front of the pool pool yard checking out the high school girls going got to cut that out what you're going to end up in jail where she goes now man. That's our love about those high school girls. man. I get older. They stay the same age. Well i remember that lana over. The heck is that. There's a book on that guy. If that guy believes that he's not saying that as an attitude or to be cool or anything. They believe that. There's a book on a person who goes through life believing that well with wall street. I'm reading this line where he's telling the belfort character that leonardo played the secret to this business cocaine hookers and i went a who is that i go. What did this version really believes that will there was a wrap so i just started writing and interviewing different brokers about how was then Now you know you you sort of create a mirage and you just kind of keep it going and I wrote a lot of that rap in. Luckily i pitched it. To scorsese he was all for it and went just laid it down. That scene was a wonderful classic scene in so much fun to do. Yeah it was awesome part of an awesome movie to get. Let's switch gears a little bit matthew. I wanna talk to you. Bet some brand stuff because That's interesting and it seems to sort of fit with the road that you take which is sticking to war. And you know the lincoln commercials and your brand ambassadorship with lincoln. Part of course has been Very high profile. It's been you know ellen's done it. Jim carey south park. I mean it's been all over the place but it seems to have really worked and you seem really comfortable in those commercials and lincoln's comfortable with you that the case we're selling cars zone. Automobiles are selling nephew. Suv's indeed i mean look we have we link nine in ford company about a great relationship for for since the beginning Hudson rouge the ad agency still working with the same people there John pierce over there so myself. Lincoln ford and the ad company will all very aligned in what we wanted to do Until we came out with the first ads and i was coming off of True detective and so i- rift on a bunch of those things that i say in the car in those got parodied saturday night. Live ellen mess like okay. Great and some of the parodies were actually very good. Some are better than others. But i don't mind impersonation we'd just be really good at it and some of them damn good damn good work that sort of got attention in eyeballs on it and we sit early on look the so many loud commercials out there. All the agile like who can turn the volume the most. What if we make such an intention on deliberate commercial so quiet that it actually cut through the noise and i saw it happened. I was in sports bars on sunday. Afternoons loud males and females screaming of the game and then the ad would come on and they'd go and their head would turn to the tv so it worked and we've considered we've maintained a very consistent town where we've gotten to is where you want to get to. I believe is where i become synonymous with lincoln. Lincoln has become synonymous with with me. So we're we're we're feeding each other and we continue just made some just made some ads here recently. That we're putting out and the suv's that are that are that are coming out of there are doing well. And it helps them sales and they've got a really good product I'm especially particularly fond of that that navigator that ad which is a really really really good product was ernie connection. Sue lincoln lawyer not incidence. Did just really a coincidence. Next driven a lincoln before and had one and drove one of my own life. That was really just a coincidental. Callback that i'd done as well. Another brand you work with which has a long cool commercial. I mean it's more than a commercials. These films many films as wild turkey. Which i happen to be a huge fan of a drive fords too by the way but i really like wild. Turkey have for a very long time. So i watched that with particular interest So but it was very candid. Also say hey. They want me to come down and do this. I want to just more than just go. Hey by wild turkey right. Well once again i mean look for me was cool that these were two american companies. You know ford lincoln merican company bourbon in is actually american vinci. Then i go to meet the russell family you know i wanna i wanna be in business. I'm going to tell my life. Where i wanna be in business with people that i believe in what they do not that they're they're per that i believe in what they do that we have a certain. Were both authentic in what we do. And why we do it The wild turkey long. After i got some of the russell family and their three generations and how they haven't changed when they could have changed to to maybe be more popular but they were set in their ways and they knew that a damn good solid bourbon and one on one and the though it may have it fads and be more popular to other not that they were going to stick to it because that was a quintessential bourbon and after the world in america went through the white spirits time and wanted to urban lights and then came out of that going. I really wanna great solid bourbon. Pull the russell. Family campaigner had plenty of one on one battles. Will here you go. This is exactly what you're looking for and consumers went. Yes that is what we're looking for at the same time i instead of. I didn't want to be just a face. I talked with them and share stories. So i became the creative director with them. Come with the ad campaign. Who's our audience. We have that we wanna keep. Who's who's the new generation that we have to introduce while turkey too and then also created my own co created my own verb in long branch with eddie russell which was always a dream of mine to have my own favourite bourbon on the planet. Which is what we have in the in that bottle. That's a good thing. Merrill edge self directed gives you access to a whole lot. More than just zero dollar online stock. Etf an option trades. You'll be staying on top of the market with access to research and insights from top global minds. you'll have powerful analysis tools on a platform customized. Your style and the best trait execution is our number one priority because merrill doesn't sell your order flow star trading with merrill edge self directed and get more to help you make the right moves. Investing insecurities involves risk products and services are offered by merrill lynch pierce fenner and smith incorporated a registered broker dealer member. Sipc other fees may apply. Hey let me ask you about some of your investments in. Wanna start off with the austin. Fcc your soccer team. How's that going and you guys on track to actually play next year. We are on track. And it's going really well. You know a soccer game of soccer. The international sport of soccer. I'm betting on that too. I really think that's a real riser. As a game in our future we have the world cup coming in a few years. So we're going to be the front porch for the international game of football right here. In america north america austin perfect city for the international game of soccer a town. That's never had protein town. That only team in town is the university of texas. Longhorns and now we're austin used to be a college town. A government town music town was now. Bankstown dot com town lawyer town and international destination. The millions of people in austin didn't go to ut verse community for the most diverse game in the world soccer. The greatest invitation in the world. Is i caught soccer ball. We now have soccer coming to austin. Now we're looking forward to do is. How are we going to bring austin to soccer. Yeah that's when watch in our in our backyard at our stadium which the grass got put in last week on the bitch and something might just seeing real grasping put in that state of made it all feel a whole lot more real. Yes as of right now. We are still on track to to kick off next season. you seen that show head lasso. You get him to be your coach i. I've seen the ads. i haven't seen ship check it out. It's funny speaking of sports. Matthew you also have a stake in athletic. I believe and Which is a sports digital sports media business media business can be kinda tough. How's that going. Did you invest in. That with peter thiel. Did you get a chance to meet with him. How's that yet. It's going well on a did did invest in it and it's gone. Look i'm i like. I like sports enough to really appreciate an a plus perspective on sports. I don't mind the be minus the the sort of the everyman. This sort of half sports fan knowledge but i i like a plus sports nuts but i don't really like it all in straight metrics. I like a good story told and they have really great writers over there. And i'm a storyteller. They tell a good story They're not out to get the athlete there in the talk about the story in the ethics and all the different mechanisms that go into sports from the business side to the personal side of the players. Right side to the love of the game they cover all of those and so once again. This was another product that i partake of this product. I drive a lincoln i drink. Well turkey. I like soccer. I like great sports sportswriting. Oh i'd love to. It's more authentic. If i can get into something that on my proverbial monday morning desk work to do to go or something. I look forward to that. Works all these entities. You're talking about my investments. Are things that i look forward to dealing with on my proverbial monday morning at my office desk. Did you get a chance to be with. Peter thiel and talk to him about it. I mentioned him. Yes in the. Wouldn't we talk. We've talked on. We had talked to person because this all happened. I believe since code. Yeah right so you guys chatted about a little bit. Yeah about about about things that just told you last investment. I want to ask you about that. I know about is something really interested me. This forward forward company which is a high tech membership only health facility and everyone says wow it's just like dallas buyers club 'cause monthly membership but but it is unlikely membership and and again. I guess that's just a coincidence. To or i mean we're any connection between that now. There's no there's no real connection between that that was brought to me as an opportunity from friend of mine is investment. Guile serey And the concept of this was years ago invested this that people would be able to sort of self maintain their health and communicate with their doctor. Remotely something i was like. That sounds evolutionary. That sounds like that could be a real not. That sounds like that could be more than a convenience that could be a need. That could be more than just a luxury. That could be something. That could be good for a lot of people who who were not as religious others to have that capacity an immediate response with their doctor through A remote device so that just sounded to me as a really good idea for the future and my understanding. Is you got other. Investors like ashton kutcher bono. The edge have you have you met with them and talk to him about it all now. Now haven't talked to them really about it. Just mainly mainly guy in ashton okay. I think the god the ceo and founder is a guy was running artificial intelligence. Google sounds like kind of a brain. Yeah yeah right yeah impressive-sounding guy any other investments that i'm missing here that You want to share with us The only other investment is a category. That i'm creating now which is called as my minister of culture row university of texas at austin and in the city of austin working on a shared incompetent values campaign that will sell a city to itself the best assets of the city my particular case the the petri dish will be austin austin to austin knight's let newcomers. No you know. Educate them and let them initiate them to who we are and who were not I think values are what needs to be shared right now not only across cities and universities but also across businesses where You know taking the be court model of a purpose and people in profit That there's a time to pay for a great city that we live in austin and we need to be given back to it because we want to preserve what we love about it so much and also believe values or what's going to bind social contracts between people again especially now at a time of such great distrust that we have in each other where we don't know what our leaders are about. We don't know who to believe in we got to bind the social contracts with each other again. we can do that personally across cities across institutions across businesses. Yeah amen to that. I mean i was gonna ask. And i'll follow up a little bit. I mean if you think about austin and say amera armadillo world headquarters right and going back to those days where famously. The hippies would sit with the cowboys that was sort of the whole part of that cultural thing going on there and we really lost in this country and you know you're someone who i see can really bridge that divide. But i want to ask you you know. A lot of people point fingers at income and wealth inequality number one and then number two social media And i'm wondering what your thoughts are on. Both those matthew will so the first one equestrianism thoughts on income and wealth inequality the the gaps that the wealth wops in this country. Yeah you know it. Sure seems like a lot of times when we break down the differences between his brother or sex or color of skin. Or what have you boy. Everything seems to the real the real pot or replace everything. sorta finds. Its waterline is in that socioeconomic level You know especially in in america the capitalist society. My money still came. You know you get you get. You need to get what you want. That's what we tell. It's what america tells our children ourselves w-what to be successful is money and I think you know when he did not necessarily have those always at the top. And also i mean by that is. I'm all for making money. I have good money. I'm all for fame. I'm happy to be famous. But i'm inspired by looking at people like john. Mckee with whole foods remark off the salesforce that go. Hey i have an idea. That's really good to do. Even flips for nonprofit. But let's make profit off of it. So what are those things that we can ask ourselves. Hey i want to sell this. I wanna make. I wanna make money off this. I wanna get rich off this and how could it also be. Can we parlay that. It'd be like oh and it's good for the most amount of people. Those two are interchangeable. And they don't have to be a contradiction and i hope that more of us Invest in those kind of things because you can make a really living a for profit living with the non-profit idea And your second question was so so he. Yeah what's your what's your take on that these days. It's a great tool. And i just got on instagram. I think a year ago my communication and that platform for me to share parts of myself out with have already been good for me valuable. Because i'm gavin directly and communication and it's not through someone else's filter to direct line At the same time It's been good for my business. You know People check now. I didn't know this. Until i g before you certain jobs they go ahead. Let me check how many followers yet those followers matter even for business for advertisers and things like that. What the scary part is that. We have to really watch is for the first time in our lives. We especially children and millennials are getting their entire sense of self based on something. They put a picture as something that they send out to the world and they anxiously wait to see what all these trainers are going to say about it. And if the thumbs come back up. I'm gonna have a great day. Look at me popular. Dumbs come back down. I drop into a depression. Well that's not healthy. And where's the responsibility lie. I mean one lives with us. Parents have our children's. Hey make sure you're not getting your all your sense of wealth and identity and significance based on just approval or disapproval of the rest of the world. Because understand that. There's a lot of folks out there that are putting the thumb down and writing something negative and they didn't even read or look at what you wrote right. So where where where we allotting value and where we allotting. What our kids do. I always say. This kiddos millennials. All of us at thing you type in there. That comment what you say. It's gonna outlive you. It's gonna outlive all of us. So think about it before you press and and before you write it and also this. It's short money. Short might think that to put you down. Raises me up. It doesn't we can be can come to the country again. I know we can. But we're not gonna. Here's what i think we have to also watch. We're not gonna become a koumba ya. There's not going to be perfect justice across society we're not going to have a utopia and i think that it's irrational to think that we are think it's actually arrogant sometimes to think that this species and you look at We could go into the the nominations who voted. What where we are evolving. But we're never going to be our best. We're not going to get there. And i think that's the point if we could just do a little bit better small ascension to the quality of our lives and who we are and how we treat ourselves and others in it. Then there's a small ascension in our life and in society and in america. America is an aspiration constantly chasing yet. But we gotta realize we ain't ever gonna get to yet but that's the point trying to get a little bit better is as good as it gets so join the party in trying to be a little bit better than chasing yet last question and the only place to go from there has got to be. Ut football and i'm just wondering you know is that back. Are you on board house. The team looking the schedule all that. Well i'm on board. I'm always on board no matter what state we're in Or what our record is. I'm on board. You know i'm not i'm not. I'm not a Coat chaser by any means. I'm along worn fan the matter no matter if we just got beat forty six three go you know by by the ucla ten years ago or whether we just won the big twelve with the national championship. So i'm on board. Are we where we want to be. But we're on our way to come to ut. You are expected to compete for national championships in that sport especially football. Which is our front porch. We're not doing that right now. I do believe we're on our way. Yes we have some great athletes. You know you've got this new challenge. Today is one of the things we were just talking about social media and the the eighteen to twenty two year old student playing in the proverbial third person lum running down the senate looking at the jump. Sean how do i look. Well we do that. We you know taken the selfie while you're still in the fifty running for the touch tap because immediately you're getting response and your game find out how people feel about it and you're object. You're getting objective of your situation. Happen is you have looked at you texas. Football's going to be going to truly going to help us get to heights. We need to in this time to forget about that. We have that spotlight on us. We'll find that out. Let again i said this the other day play every single play every single quarter every half every gain who when the fourth quarters over be running down to the other ready for the fifth corner. Because you think it's the fourth and had the coaches tell you no no no games over. We won and if you do that. You're almost that unconscious that the games even over if you have you have your proverbial goal line so far ahead of you. You're finish line. you're gonna look school board. See you want so. It's play more in the first person. Be more present understand that. There's no auditions when you come to university of texas. It's on it's live step up. Let's grow all right. We're going to leave it there. Matthew mcconaughey actor and author of green lights. Thank you so much for joining us and enjoyed that very much. You've been watching influencers. I'm andy serwer. We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening to influencers. Don't forget to rate review in. Subscribe on apple podcasts. Or wherever you your podcasts. And follow yahoo finance on twitter at yahoo finance ed at sir. Were this episode of yahoo. Finance presents is brought to you by merrill edge. Self directed start trading. And get more to help you. Make the right moves. Get the perfect background music for your business. And the world's biggest catalog with over fifty million songs soundtrack. Your brand lets you search by song or artist to just like you're used to play whatever you want and schedule it for whenever you want. It's fully licensed and legal for your business right. Now you can try soundtrack. Free for thirty days just go to. Www dot soundtrack your brand dot com and get started. It's background music that works.

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Kinda Cute -Ep. 64  Matthew McConaughey-Strange but endearing?

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Kinda Cute -Ep. 64 Matthew McConaughey-Strange but endearing?

"It's kind of cute, right? Hello and welcome back to kind of cute and if you are new here welcome. My name is Bailey Evan. I'm your host and I'm kind of cute we discuss our thoughts from the cut and my general pop culture musings. Hello to all my little ghouls out there. This is a special Halloween edition of kind of cute. I mean actually it's not it's just being recorded on October 30th, but there's not much spooky about this episode. I apologize in advance, but I do have some little pop culture tidbits for you. There's in the Bravo realm this week first. All first of all Kathy Hilton has confirmed that she is going to be on the next season of real house of Beverly Hills. I don't know why she's waited this song. The only thing I can figure is that she didn't like how she was portrayed in Paris Hilton's documentary on YouTube and she's like, I am here to show you all. What's up? I'm the real queen bitch at the Hilton family, and I'm home. And I've heard from other podcasters like Heather McDonald that she's actually really funny and like loves pranking people and that she used to be like one of the main people who would like do pranks with chrome Jenner and she just seemed like a who and a half. So I'm very excited about that speaking of which is hm a little witches review for you. So I told you guys a couple of weeks thought I was super excited for the remake of The Witches to come out I think at a time when I was talking about it. I thought it was a TV show it was actually a Movie remake. It was a HBO Max and obviously I have some thoughts. I told you guys before that the original which is I think is a perfect movie. I told you I wanted that little animatronic a mouse in my bosom. I just fucking loved it. And I said that I was going to be disappointed if they used only CGI instead of physical props, which of course they did. So that right off the bat was disappointing to me because in the original which is they used a real Mouse unless the mouse was speaking and then they use of like animatronic or a puppet Mouse. It's a Jim Henson movie the original one. So it was a lot of puppy you say I think but you know, his puppets are just like so good and the which month is when they take off their skin. It is actually a terrifying sight like it is enough to strike fear Into the Heart of a grown man. I'm pretty sure this new one. It was just like weird Pennywise Vibes like the witch's mouth like split open in this weird CGI like to thing so they're off limits are like split Joker Style like up and my time doing an awful job of explaining that but it's just doesn't have the same roof to it and they're just not as disgusting when they take off. Our faces and their masks like they didn't even take off their faces in this they just kind of like open into this gaping hole and the mice were cute. She's you eyes but I'm like why couldn't you have used real mice at all like in the original and they had that nice fricking carrying the 86 potion in its little tail and running up. I'm like that is legit like that is movie money right there. And so those are the things I didn't like about it. I do think it was interesting that they kind of did a Twist on it and that they have it set in Alabama. The lead character is a little black boy. Olivia Octavia. I'm sorry Octavia Spencer plays his grandma and that was a fun Twist on it, but it's weird because they don't even give the little boy a name is why I'm calling him a little black, but they don't even give the poor kid in name and we're watching it with with captions on and even in the captions. They just call him hero and then like grown up here. Oh cuz Chris Rock dog. Voice as a grown up and I don't know I was just like was like really like you're going to try to be like, I think Progressive and trying to have a more varied cast wage. You're not even going to give your lead character a name. I'm just like, oh the boy like, I don't understand that it's definitely worth it to watch. I recommend watching the original first and then watching the game right after cuz they're different enough that like you it's not repetitive. But to me it just put into stark contrast how much better the original is dead. Just how we're so getting away from what may movies so great by just putting CGI everywhere. Like I feel like I can't even get started on it cuz it just makes me sad but I'm speaking of a non which of we host. She wasn't in that group. Scheana Shay of Vanderpump Rules Fame is pregnant guys. It's all dead. Happening for her the baby daddy is the Jason Momoa looking man that she's been with lately. And of course, you know Sheena got that clear blue spawn Khan money get your baggage girl. Can you imagine the weirdness of like taking a pregnancy test finding out you're pregnant? And then either you or like your PR person just shooting off a little email to Clearblue and being like and so I I Sheena and pregnant and I would like to Stage a pregnancy reveal pic with Clearblue. I'll feature prominently, you know, put hashtag ad in the caption. I would like 10K dollars minimum. I mean like the thought process of that like when other people are just probably like elated that they're pregnant woman. She's like, let me get that coin. I mean, honestly I can only dream that that is in my future if I someday have a child, I mean get get your money to pay for that little rugrat place. It's like I'm manifesting this for myself. I want that clear blue spawn Khan money. If I ever get pregnant and even if I don't get pregnant, I know let's say I do get pregnant but let's say I get pregnant by like a sperm bank without an actual baby. Daddy like just a sperm donor baby. Daddy. I think I'd still I think that'd be really Progressive way to get that clear blue money be like look, I just made the decision to do this on my own. I'm a strong independent woman. So I think I'm at least worth 15K a post. So that's again. I'm just see creating that to happening and you know on that note. I want to White night for Sheena for a second right here. I feel like people gave her so much shit for talking about how all she was, you know freezing her eggs, and I think it really downplayed what a difficult process that is. And obviously I'm not speaking for as someone who's been through it yet. But being that I'm Thirty-One in about to be 32, I have definitely thought about the prospect of freezing my eggs because ideally I would like to do it sooner rather than later because it's when you're fucking eggs are the freshest sadly and I'm one of those people who I don't even know for sure if I want to have kids. So it's just really scary thing of like do I watch my best so much money into something. I don't even know if I want but at the same time, I don't want to have that robbed from me like not even having the chance and Beyond the monetary wage. Shoe with freezing your eggs. I think it's so physically demanding. I mean you're having to give yourself hormone shots. You can't drink you can't I mean it's basically like being pregnant with while you're going through the fertility process that freezing your eggs entails and there's not a lot of like, I don't think it's really spoken about in this open a horse of people my age too often and yeah the fact that she got shit on for bringing it up when it was like clearly that was a huge life thing. She was going through and off at the time. She didn't have a boyfriend and she was making that choice for herself. So I mean, I don't mean to get like so, you know poetic about scheana Shay, but I really thought it was unfair that she was kind of portrayed as like, oh my God, can you believe she's talking about freezing her eggs to these guys she just met but it's like why isn't that something that we can talk about when it's such a big decision that people have to move Such a big monetary thing that people have to do and it's a huge decision in a women's woman's life. Like I don't know I could go into that more. But again, I just come in Sheena for being open about it on T. Cuz I don't think it's anything that people should have to be I don't think fertility is something people shot to be ashamed about or secret about and I'm honestly it's like I said someone who's contemplated if that's something worth investing my time and energy and the pain that goes with it to do I like seeing people going through that experience and normalizing it. All right. I'm moving on more pregnant talk though. Amerada is pregnant. She little slow bun in the oven. She still ran super cool clothes. I'm like, oh my gosh, like even she how do people look so gorgeous when they're pregnant. It's not fair. I still think her husband is like a heinous. So why she would procreate with that? I mean she really must love him. Oh God. Do I need to cut that part out but yeah best wishes to Thursday is no I shared the Articles she wrote for the cut a few weeks ago and I thought it was such a moving piece. And so honest and vulnerable again like scheana Shay. So just a big, you know Round of Applause for those ladies home. And in other, you know, couple Bliss scarjo and Colin Jost got married over the weekend and someone leaked a picture of like what their wedding invite looked like and it was literally on the little note card and handwritten and then some I think this is on numo. I saw it and someone responded and was like, of course, this is so Harvard Lampoon of him because he was on the Harvard Lampoon and I'm just like yeah like wage that is something Colin Jost would do like send out a notecard hand. Like, I mean those note cards are used to study for when you were in high school there, you know little three-by-five. That's what they're dead. Invites Ron, so I just thought that was sort of interesting and then I saw this article on Bloomberg that it's called why Banksy is probably a woman and it's by Christopher Capps and this is actually an old article. It's from 2014. But for some reason the cut was like sharing it in their newsletter and now I'm just like I hope this is true. I love the bank see documentaries exit through the gift shop is such a mind-fuck like the whole thing kind of feels like a mockumentary and I think it is but just the the Brilliance of it like the fact that you don't know if mr. Brainwash is just this total creation of being C or if he had some autonomy in his role in it. If you haven't seen it yet definitely watch it because the whole time you just like what and you know this article kind of talks about the fact that dead It almost feels like Banksy has to be a woman and I'm coming around to the idea and what better way of disguising herself than like having people refer to him as a he and I just again I just hope one day she comes out and she's like I have vagina. I froze my Exile of Vanderpump Rules again. I'm going to manifest that for myself as well. All right. I finally I'm getting to the articles for today. And the first one was just like a small little blurb. I wanted to give you a on our update from the exhumed dick incident that we talked about last week. So it's the eye witness speaks out about Zoom dick incident by Bridget read. So this man named Masha gessen. He's a Russian America journalist. He seems to be like the only brave soul who's willing to speak on the record about what actually occurred during this incident. So he told the New York Times that in the wake of the incident. He said, I'm quite sure. Toobin didn't realize that the people on the New Yorker call could see him I suspect he thought that when the breakout room started he was disconnected and he didn't realize we'd all returned to a live camera. And I mean, is there anyone out there who thinks that he knew he was on camera? Like I don't think he was just trying to be a pervert and get fired from his job. I think he was just so nonchalant about the whole thing that he actually didn't think he was on camera which is just horrifying an awful and I really feel like that that could happen to anyone not the easy part, but just like not like realizing you're still on camera or like thinking you're on mute and you're not that's really my biggest fear is like not being on mute and like talking shit. But you know also just in case anyone doesn't know when you're in a zoom and you send like what you think is a private message to someone else in the zoom the host can see it so don't be thinking talking shit. Especially don't talk shit about the host cuz they can see it. So I don't know if that helps out anyone out there, but just in case and then he gave another quote where he said I I don't know what I would like would less like to talk about the Russian interference in American politics or last week's Zoom call and doesn't that just wrap up the state of our country right now. So sanjita did a whole article on De Moi that I honestly think since I've started falling Duma I have mentioned that Instagram account back in every episode I've done and I knew sanjita was a fan but this cements it for me and in case I've done a really shite job of explaining that Instagram account. I thought this summed it up nicely. So it says what kind of Gossip can you find on do Mom and send you to write a variety, you'll find a lot of gossip about the Real Housewives as well as self-proclaimed insiders describing unexpected secret celebrity hook-ups. A lot of people will just right into say they saw a certain celebrity on the street sometimes with an attached blurry photo for proof people also detail log, Did sexual or romantic encounters that they've had with the rich and the famous also, there's a lot about whether or not a slob is nice. Harry Styles is lovely apparently or mean overall though the gossip runs the page you'll see items on a wide variety of subjects ranging from what products Jennifer Aniston use on her skin to which comedian who refuses to go down on unsure and women. So this leads me to a page story. I want to tell you about Harry Styles and it really just does cement that we are not worthy of him. He is an angel that somehow blessed this Earth. So naturally sells car broke down and he went into this person's house cuz I guess the dad sees him, you know broken down offers him to come inside have a cup of tea off and so Harry leaves this note because apparently the dad's daughter is a huge fan and he tells Harry this and he leaves this Theodora my car broke down. Your street and your Dad's friend kindly let me wait at your house with a cup of tea. I'm devastated that we missed each other looking forward to meeting you soon treat people with kindness off all my love love Harry PS. I fed the fish. Tell your dad get in touch. I'll see you I can't it's cut off. But literally, it's I think I'll see you at a show and there's a picture of Harry feeding. This girl's fish. I mean I can taste the pain of like not being there when this happened like for the rest of this girl's life. She will be like, why wasn't I home when Harry Styles was chilling in my house, but it seems like she literally has a line to getting in touch with him. Like Harry is saying to tell your dad to get in touch. I mean, I've talked about manifesting a lot of things this episode but there is nothing more that I would like to manifest than something like that happening to me. So Universe if you're feeling kind just just keep that in mind and speaking of sanjeeda who wrote the article about to law and last week I talked about how she gets to interview everyone cool this week. She got to talk to Matthew McConaughey last week. She we covered her article with Chris Messina the best Chris and before we get into this, I'm sure I've mentioned this story, but I ask Saw Matthew McConaughey in the flesh and it was at West Palms opening of their Restoration Hardware. It's one of the ones that has a cafe. There's ones in New York Chicago home and I guess Matthew is friends with the owner of Restoration Hardware. So he was like at this party, but he was pretty heavily guarded like he had like literally like, you know, security guards body guards standing around him and it was very obvious that they were bodyguards and my friend like even tried to take a picture. She asked like Emily shout out. You were like, can I get a picture and Emily's like the sweetest cutest like it's very hard to say no to her but these bodyguards were like no and I was approximately fifteen mini lobster rolls deep and let me tell you what I was taking every glass of champagne that whisks by me. This party was the best party I've ever been to in my life like it was so pretentious and over-the-top, but they had like all Could eat caviar. There was like a lose of vodka. It was free-flowing. Rozay champagne baby lobster rolls perfectly buttered perfectly mayonnaise. I somehow took all of my friends got like actual invites this party through their work. I just conned them into bringing me as their plus one and thank God I did cuz if I had missed out on this party, I would still be about it. What to pick you up? Okay sure get on the mic as proof of how nice this party was. Bailey called me to pick her up because she's like I tried to try and get you in but they're like being all like stick in the mud's and so I pick her up. She is born in line in coherence. And we drive all the way home Bailey has taken her shoes off and put her feet out the window and it's trying to lay on me as I'm driving home. I was like get off me. I'm driving and then the next morning she was like, oh, I'm I'm so sorry about the night before the party was just a little wire. But I think I was the only one getting that wild. I laid on like every single bed that was set up in that Restoration Hardware, which I think they frown upon and poor Kenzie. Like I was a nightmare like a total total nightmare and the fact that she didn't get to go to that party with me like pains me. Anyways, though. His wife was also there Camila Alves McConaughey and to this day she is honestly one of the most strikingly beautiful women I have ever seen in my life like just stunning Perfection. Like I wanted them to stroke her face but enough about me. So this article starts out with a Matthew story about the term mcconaissance, which before I read this I had never heard of I don't even know if I'm saying right but it's it's spelled like Renaissance. So mcconaissance works for me and he wanted it to signify his transition from rom-com Magic Mike Matthew to Sears. Actor Matthew and since you to rights that he coined and created the term and fed it to an M TV reporter at a 2013 Sundance interview. And she says that this song that he's never shared is a footnote in his book green light switch is Memoir that's coming out this week. So clearly he's doing like the Press rounds for green lights and she writes real you come across many of these anecdotes which smelled just slightly of bulshit but not enough to distract you from the charm of the Storyteller behind them. I mean, wow, I love the thought of Matthew reading this story and just be like you she got it. She she gets it she knows now since she was also quite a fan of ejaculatory strawberries is the vibe. I'm getting and if you haven't listened to that last week's episode with the Christmas unit episode go listen to that first cuz her article is really good and she talks about these wage. Dream Adventures that Matthew describes and so he has one it was in nineteen. Ninety six and he says he had in a jackulate or a nightmare in which he was floating down the Amazon River his body was real dangerous reptiles and then he followed the dream to Peru and he floated naked down the Amazon and then he caught the wave of a mermaid's tale as she headed Downriver and then Thursday he had another wet tree. That was the same. But this time he's years later where he spied African tribesmen on the banks and followed that Vision to Molly then he took on a local giant of a wrestling match as the rest of the village cheered him on he claims that various points to have done peyote in a cage with a mountain lion watched his father resurrected round bear with mouth mouth and built a 13-story treehouse. I've got stolen would I mean what sort of drugs was this guy doing back in the day because this says addled brain to me and Why are you even writing about your dreams and your Memorial like that's not like maybe it is relevant cuz maybe there's some truth in this and he's just saying it's a dream and then she describes that there was home to silences in their conversation that they had the whole time. And the first was when he got up to grab a cup of tea and he filled that time with whistling and then the other he's saying a nonsense diddy doo doo da doo doo doo doo doo. That's how she wrote it that wasn't just my creative interpretation do. Oh, no. It's like the opening the Southern Charm. Also. Did you guys see how long Hudson said that he wasn't a good kisser and I just feel like that really tracks with this interview. But the cutest story from this is Sangeeta tells him that she's nervous and he's like, that's the best thing you can do. Just let it out just say you're nervous and it's a good release and guys. I literally do this in the bathroom before I have to go to court or talk to someone honestly like my social anxiety no song. Bill balance. I mean, why do you think I have two liquor myself up for this podcast where I literally talked to myself but this is also my new Theory maybe sanjeeda has not agreed to come on kind of cute podcast because she is nervous. I'm going to tell myself that to make me feel better soon. Jeeta, if you're listening, there's nothing to be nervous about I guarantee my nervousness and social anxiety is worse than yours even with my Lexapro, so don't be scared. But this story is also really cute to it says that he's at home in Austin with his three kids his wife and his 88 year old mother and they've been doing puzzles and every night the family goes outside to look for shooting stars. And Matthew says it's a way to replace the catharsis of church where he usually likes to have a good cry if if you look up in the sky and you go. Oh, I don't really matter and in the I don't matter as when you realize everything matters he says, So wow, and I also love this story he talks about when he was preparing the played engine vanzan and Reign of Fire which I've actually never seen but he said he would wake up having double shot of tequila. When he rose at Sunrise. He would have five Barefoot miles run across the west Texas desert and tackling sleeping Bulls in a nearby Ranch naked and the ranch named Lucas palotas, which translates to Crazy Balls after he was caught doing this. I mean that's iconic. I also kind of believe like after a few drinks. I can run better like that. You see my thing like when when I was in New Hampshire and it was the winter and I was super drunk. I would look run back to my dorm sometimes because and I hate running like I live there's not many things. I hate more than running but it was literally like the beer gave me wings. I felt like a Red Bull commercial like I would just run like the wind and I wouldn't even feel that winded, but I don't know if that's just because I was dead. So deluded by the alcohol that I actually wasn't even running fast and it just felt like I was can anyone like corroborate this is it like a little easier to run when you've had a few shots like not too many, but just enough to get you feeling kind of like warm inside. Anyways, then not make this really dark but there's this list at the beginning of his book and two of the things he lists are these he says I was blackmailed into having sex for the first time when I was fifteen. I was certain I was going to hell for the premarital sex today. I'm nearly certain that I hope that's not the case and then he writes I was molested by a man when I Was Eighteen while knocked unconscious in the back of a van. And I mean that's just a so awful and then sanjeeda thanks him for addressing it. Noting that it's rare for a minute Hollywood discuss experiences of assault and she says that he gives a deep breath and nods and says good. Yeah even just talking with you right then it was enjoyable to talk about it in that way. So not to leave that one like a dark know but I was like damn profound and also sanjeet has a great interviewer and I almost just want to have her on here so she can give me some tips but let's get into are legit shit of the day. So the other day I posted an Instagram story and my friend honest said that my brows looked good and I had actually laminated them a few weeks ago because I am all about the at home beauty treatments. I'll try anything once and so I bought this brow illumination kit off Amazon, of course, it's going to be linked in the legit section of the show notes and it was about $42 a month. Basically what brow lamination does is it's almost like a permanent cream and so it breaks down the bonds and your hair's and it makes them really apply a bowl. So then you can like make them stick where you want them to an office. They kind of like stick up straight and that's the gist of it. So my issues with it were after I did it my hair felt pretty brittle so it's not something I want to do all the time and they give you an oil to put on it to help with that but my hair just felt weird so it and it smells like Nair when it's on. So if you've ever smelled near before it's that really really disturbing smell which is off-putting and then the other issue is I think my browser just so stubborn that a lot of them still like they just kind of go crazy directions even after I've laminated them, but I do think it helps if you're someone who's browse like mine, they kind of never want to lay straight. It's literally why a couple of weeks ago, I gave you like a glue recommendation that hair styling gel Because my needs such strong hold to get them to stay in place. So I mean I'm here to tell you that it didn't like cause my brows to fall out. It didn't you know do anything damaging I would lay off on how often you do it, but if you want to try it once and just see if you like it. It's way cheaper to get this kit than to go get it professionally done and on that same brow talk I've right after I did that. I got the Anastasia Beverly Hills microstroking detailing brow pen, and I feel like it is nice to have like a really subtle kind of feathery floam. You look that is very in on Tik Tok right now. So I think that's worth a try. I love her wax pencil, but I definitely talked on here before about how the packaging has sucked lately and it always breaks. So I wonder why this new one and I do think it's pretty good. I don't know if it's like my favorite one ever, but I wanted to tell you guys about it. So I hope you enjoyed this episode. I hope you have a very spooky Halloween song. Stay safe, and I will see you next week by.

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Looking For The Greenlights In Your Life And Career (Guest Matthew McConaughey)

The Ken Coleman Show

44:26 min | 4 months ago

Looking For The Greenlights In Your Life And Career (Guest Matthew McConaughey)

"Thanks for listening to the podcast of the. Ken coleman show. You can catch the show live every weekday from twelve to one eastern on youtube and one to two eastern on sirius. Xm andrew local radio station. If you'd like to ask me a question you can talk to me. Live any weekday from twelve to two eastern by calling eight four four seven four seven two five seven seven. I talk a lot about discovering your talent and passion to find your dream job. And that's exactly what my friends at burst of done. Hamish was passionate about toothbrushes and brittany was a successful entrepreneur together. They built a business that has revolutionized oral care. The burst sonic electric. Toothbrush is clinically proven to remove up to ten times more plaque than manual toothbrush. See what a simple dream can become. Try a burst. Brush today for as little as forty nine ninety nine go burst oral care dot com and use the code ken to get special pricing setting the pace on the pursuit of happiness. This is ken. Coleman show where you discover what you were born to do and how to make it happen now. Helping you get unstuck and on the path to your dream job. America's career coach. Ken coleman folks coming to you. Live from ramsey. Solutions studios in nashville. And i'm super excited to introduce our special guests for this special edition of the ken coleman show. My guest is matthew mcconaughey now for those of you movie lovers. Matthew is an academy award winning actor and now. The new york ties bestselling author. His new book is called green lights and has already sold more than a million copies of fantastic fantastic story so Couldn't have him on live so we did the next best thing and we did it taped so we had him in from his home in austin texas and it was a fantastic fantastic conversation. That is again geared towards encouraging. You as i do every day on becoming who you were created to be. He's done that. And there's so much gold so encouragement for you in this conversation so without any further ado. We're going to take you to my conversation with oscar winning bestselling author matthew mcconaughey matthew. I enjoyed the book immensely and one of the stories that cracked me up early. The book is the story of the poem contests and you. You know your mom gives you this great. You know inspiration. Say does it it. It's a wonderful story for those who need to read it. It's really really funny. But i was curious what i read that and when i hear you talk whether it be on instagram or when you gave a speech at the oscars you just got this natural storytelling vibe about you and obviously you're an actor which is storytelling. But i'm just curious. It was at around. That time was earlier that you begin to realize if you look back or did you realize a youngster. And how young were you. When you realize i dig stories or poems or storytelling in general probably around the dinner table because everyone family storytellers led by my dad and my older brother the momentum brother then my mom and then at the dinner table ran lazy susan. If you had something you were going to bring up you better be good. You'd better hold everyone's attention or someone's going to spend the lazy susan inter interrupt you and take you better be good at it so i heard their stories and then i think i really in my late teens. When my two older brothers were out of the house meaning now they were friends with my dad meaning now they go have a beer at the bar with my dad. I would hear those stories on sunday. Hear the stories from saturday. Night on sunday and i'd be around when their friends will come over here. The retelling of those stories and i wanted to be there one day to be though i just want to be there live in one of those stories because all i do is i keep hearing nevada and there's such great stories and in my young mind and impressionable mind. Maybe they re. They were even more fantastic than they were but they were they were already pretty fantastic and so maybe you know now that you ask the question you was you had to be a good storyteller. Holder wants attention the household but also the yearning to want to. Oh if i could just be eighteen. Which was that. Several agent are then freedom to be with dad and my brothers and all their friends and actually be live witnessing part of the stories that s where it came from. Yeah i love this question that you are surrounded by that and you have a knack for it. I mean it's just it's it's kind of a pros. I also want to ask you about childhood adolescence. As released a sports. I love sports. I tried to play everything. Unfortunately and five nine with average ethnic had huge heart. But i learned the greatest lessons from my life on the field of sport. You know or in the car on the way home. You know when i'm seven years of age on the rut. The littlest guy on the seventy nine year old league. I can't get and this is back in the day matthew where you didn't guaranteeing playing time. You know this is in the eighties edge so you know the little sky. I wouldn't have put me in. You know like i don't. I don't begrudge coach but by was hurting and my dad can tell us something was wrong and he looks at me in the rear view mirror and he says what's going on pal and it just opened up the floodgates and i just start to saab what's going on and something to the effect chore old. I just wanna play dad. And he said to me said listen. You're the youngest. And you're the littlest don't you quit. Stay with it. Your time will come two seasons later. You know starter. I lead that little league in scoring made the travel team at that point in my life was the biggest accomplishment that i could possibly ever imagined that lesson through my career broadcasting career state with me. Your time will come. I'm just curious. I know you're great golfer. Know you kind of grew up with that athletic Bent and i know. Sports was around life lessons. Or is there a lesson that sticks out to you a moment. A story that were sports really stuck something in you and it stayed with you. Yeah i mean we could talk the whole show about this sports about. Yeah preparation for my job. Now i've learned about but there's an individual sport like golf where you're playing the elements or surfing where you're playing the element to team sports. Football baseball basketball also learned that in those sports that are team. Sports is still personal. It's still is about the jaw about a collective of individuals doing the best at their job. Each play in the context of the situation that make the greatest teams so You know that old. They're no. I team but yeah there's an imminent me Aitken the wrong way. But i think there's a there's a healthy way to take that that to make a collective teams or tab the best team each individual has to buy one to be the most excellent at their particular role So for me. I was goes above average. I was never great. I did get down to the the best. I ever got down to four handicap in golf while an my first two older ones are eleven days apart had four while golf. I got good enough. Where i like thought about. This is a game. I dig. I've got a knack for had been tally for it. I had a. I was long and added really good short game actually short game when it was good was was even was even more worthy than my distance off the box but i was also a late bloomer. Meaning let me tell you this one You know texas. Football played for the packers brothers played. We never really had the anatomies for you know to be blessed to go be a professional football like my dad did but i remember being really nervous when when afternoon early evening about telling him going into the grade that i didn't wanna play football next year and i was the kid who just six years earlier was husky in couldn't tackle me in the john riggins for their abbas me diesel named desire. Well all of a sudden by eight seventy eighth grade. I was no longer the huskies in toughish. That you couldn't bring down. I was also not nears being the fastest. Either so physically. There were stronger. Gives an faster kids. At the same time that i was and i began to notice that man. I i don't know this for me. And i remember sitting in my room and ask dad come down our room and really nervous about tahema did want to play football anymore because the ball family dad played it and i through tears. I told him i. I don't play football anymore. Dad and he goes oh great news and what and he goes. Do you know it's may come into your room before i get there. I said yeah actually do yes sir. And he goes. How do you know i can hear you. And he goes. What are you here. And i go. I hear this. He goes yeah. I got a four inch plate. Here got three screws here. I got this about bub-bubba and i told him i. I don't wanna play golfie play golf. You can do it down. He said if you do play football and he did this every summer. If you do wanna play football. The first day of summer every day for the three months you will be up running hills to get in shape. So if you're gonna play there was no like just go play. No you're going to do what you gotta do to play. Golf ended up being my average at everything else. And you know. I got to the highest number two on the golf team for handicapped but never was something that i was going to go pursue. I won the intermurals at university of texas. So i was a solid golfer but it was never something that really considered. Oh i want to try that professional. But i love how it prepared you for so much of just. The individual golf outing has prepared you for so many auditions early on. When you're trying to make it you know such a mental game such a game. It's mostly the mental game You know one of the things. I get about golf the best rounds i ever had or one when i was walking to when i wasn't looking at the scorecard going with one hour and you got to go and if you birdie you could get where i wasn't think of the best rounds ever had i was walking off of eighteen. T box finished with around thinking. I had more holes to go and then look squirms are oh you fit you. Shot seventy four. Wow so well learned about that. At work is the best performances. I have my work. Are the last eight shooting. They say rap. And i go. Okay everybody thanks to see you tomorrow and they have to come. Tell me no there is no tomorrow. That's a film rap. We have finished shooting. I'm like oh he did. I didn't even know where the finish line was. Yeah and i think that's a talk about the book. Mortal finish lines i it you know if we when we put a finish line like oh i can just birdie one more on two holes to go. Oh i've only got one more week of work. If i could finish we put we. We have a tendency to choke because we put this finish line. When does football player gonna go gonna fumble. He's not ready when you get near the goal line. Well be like bo. Jackson go on. He ran across the goal on through the end zone. Install hill. it's right. Keep row your finish on way past it Whatever you're doing think it's going to be longer and harder and that you'll keep going play for the fifth quarter and let the coach continue games over. Yeah you pay a better game yet. Rienzi something else you write about in the book i had planned to ask you to just fit here so we're going to go to it. I love this thought of one in a row. And i'm not gonna say anything else i'm teach. This is good. Stuff teaches with that context one in a row and i mean you know we want to get somewhere. Yeah you know. And i i call it data time with the big picture in mind but then when you had that big picture could you head down take. It can chop that tree down. It's gonna i don't address. Well let's get to chop it down. One swing at a time one axing time whatever that may be just start book because what happens is are you looking at that big picture of the rise and that's probably wanna be. You don't do the job in front of us. Well so you build a link in your chain of where you're going at the weak link and then you add your looking over there again. you're too. You're too obsessed with where it is. You wanna go that. You're not looking down at your feet. You build another weak link and what you get there. It won't hold. You gotta build each link well at at at one in a row and again and again the first and last time is each time. That's it do that. Look up all got a little bit higher on the rung of the ladder. The down climb again. Yep got it got a little further and if we can. That's part of the what i mean not talk about the process. Yeah life being verb. We never really that place on the horizon that we think we wanna go. It's not finite anyway. Not a real spot. You don't land and go totta because on the way getting there and once you get there one it's either a bit more of a mirage than you thought or two. You've learned some things on the way to get in there that now you've got a lot more places you need to go. That was not actually final destination at all elite. Jump in here. Because i think this is perfect. Because when you got the oscar you look at the total of your career getting to that point. Yes that is the highest honor. But you personally didn't change. It was a pretty good deal and it probably felt pretty good. But what was it like in that moment even in the minutes after of i've achieved the highest honor. But i'm not even close to done well. It was great validation. That my this thing called acting that i had worked on it. Become good enough. My craft that it trans as an art that my peers said we deem this the most excellent work in this category this year so it was great validation. Because that's a long way from where. I came when i started twenty five years earlier. I built an evolution in in my craft which felt good to go are getting better. I'm lowering my handicap so to speak. Yeah right and it translated which is a different thing by sports beautiful but spores who wins one hundred yard dash who crossed the line. I it's measurable. there's not a discussion are two different thing. It's more subjective. What is deemed the most excellent work. I'd done some work that people said. Now it's not even negotiable. That's great work that bill. Good so you know. I it was. I did let myself Enjoy that and feeling. I didn't like go. Hide my oscar and take it home that night. Put it in a basement go. I didn't win that now. move on. I hate myself enough time to go. Let's enjoy this. Look at that thing. That means something and way to go but it in no way did i say oh now. I'm defying now. I did it. It didn't feel. I could destination. I did notice some funny things that like. After i won the oscar. I could repeat things that i said in the public eye in an interview that i've said twenty times before but now it was bold print course right right. Oh my god. That's your that amazing. I'm like i've said that twenty four right. that's right you just. You're listening phone. Yeah you know my words. The gobi branded instead of sort of written in pencil. You know what. I mean so. I noticed that that came with some more opportunities in some of of influence or power access to things but i was not. I didn't have any compl- add anything. I had less complacency. I was like because. Here's what i did in the years leading up to two winning that oscar for four years before that after i'd taken that two years off from acting at all when i got back to get the jobs i wanted to get which were lincoln lawyer bernie paperboard killer joe magic. Mike mud true detective. Dallas buyers club win the oscar. I was less interested in result in ever before. Orelon head down. I'm going for the experience. What am i going to get out of this. F the bucks man. Oh there was love of the work on. Put my head down. You're gonna tell me when it's over my head so down. I'm obsessed with my work. Now you tell me when. I need to tap out because i'm going. I'm going to keep create until you tell me. Game's over it's over. We've wrapped that's when i got more results. That's right wanna quit thinking about the result in just put my head down on that way. You're talking about it but the process of just the day to day. Come on this work through the mind. Well here's what i want people to hear. I mean you share this on several interviews and if they don't know your story when you took that two years off that was you saying. Hey i'm gonna take a pause on the rom coms here. Because i want to do a different type of work. It was for the love of the craft. And you're going. This is the work. I want to create and folks i talk about this all the time on the show that all work creates a result and so when we do work we love passion. That's how i defined it matthew to produce results that matter deeply to us that's mission right so we use what we do. Best talent to do work. We love passion to produce results. That matter to this is what you're talking about. But i want people here this as i think we see actors that we see oscar winners and obviously you're celebrity and we think there's all this charm in it but what i want people to hear as you turn down. Millions of dollars for fourteen million is what it got to. At one point you turned down script. You're going. I'm going to rebrand myself. I'm going to go do this. And there was real fear. I think i've heard you say in a couple of interviews that hey. I may not work like i used to work. I want you to describe that. Yeah so i'd been doing wrong calms and been very successful at them but doing action comedies. They were making good box office money. I was getting paid extremely handsomely But it was a time where i was like dramas that i was interested in doing. I couldn't even sniff of no one was gonna finance drama. No matter how much of a pay cut say. I'll do it for this amount of money. This much less like no. You're not. You're not gonna make a box office on that. You're the wrong guy your shirtless on the beach. Romcom got great at that. Stay in your lane. Well when i noticed. I wasn't getting offered anything that i wanted to do. I said all right. So why don't we quit doing what we've been doing and just say no to that in my haunch paid off was that i'll be gone long enough that hopefully albeit new good idea for these dramatic roles one day but there was no guarantee it was a one way ticket to limbo man because it went on years and trust me. Those two years damn right. I got wobbly and needed purpose. I lost sense of significance. I luckily had a newborn son. We brought into the world gave me a place to focus and put attention on daily which was a healthy place to do. So but man as a man. I needed work. I needed to go to work. I felt worth less than a lot of ways. And i did not know if those roles are ever gonna come back my way or any kind of role that i wanted to do was gonna come back now. Well after twenty months and after turning down game when i turned down that offer for fourteen and a half million dollars which was a good script. And i want to tell this story here so i don sound too puritanical. Yeah i love this part of the context here. So i've got wrong comes coming. I'm reading no freedom. No freedom no. No there's one comes in with the five million dollar i read. It no comes back. Same script eight menara opera so now because back with tim may not know because back with twelve point. Five million dollar offer. I say ellipses ellipses ellipses comes back at fourteen point. Five million dollar offer i say. Let me read that again. Same script is that original five minute offer but it was better written script. It was funnier. It had more angles. I might be able to make this work. But ultimately i said no no when i said that it did send a sort of an invisible sort of communication lightning bolt across hollywood. That said oh kinda. He's not bluffing. oh he's really not doing wrong. Come so then for fourteen months go by. Nothing comes in not one offer. I call my age and every week. He goes buddy. I've not even heard your name But after twenty months of being gone. Where's makaay he and been in the theater in our living room romcom. We haven't seen him shirtless on the beach. Where the hell is he all of a sudden. We know it'd be a good idea. A novel interesting. New idea for lincoln lawyer for killer. Joe void the matthew so that i realized oh what i've done this last. Twenty months is un brand. Because i was no longer romcom shirtless down the beach. I was where the hell is he. He's nowhere i gained anonymity and then became a fresh new good idea. Wow that's so good. Page ninety three of the book folks. i've got my sticky notes all over this thing. This is a great little a quote here in the book. It says when we know what we want to do knowing wind to do it is the hard part. Get them early. So you don't have to get them as often prevent before the cure habilitated before the re. That's that's so good. I mean that's that's great context for this. I mean you knew what you wanted to do. Had come to that point. And you're like okay. What point in a win win. Do i cut bait and you decided no more encourage people about that. Because there's conviction. I believe and when i hear your story i know it's conviction that's what i'm calling it. You had a conviction you're going you know what it's not the work i want to do anymore. Son who i won't be i think conviction fuels courage Encourage our audience. They're looking at something and there's isn't switching from romcom roles to to meaty drama roles but they're going. I know i'm not supposed to be an accountant. I know that i was created to build with my hands and and restore homes or whatever it is and they're looking at that and they're going. Everybody thinks i'm a good account. Non knocking down six figures. And i've got the golf club membership. My kids go to a good school. Everybody's gonna think that. I've lost my ever loving mind if i make the switch but my that's my brain but my heart's going go do build something talk to them about that. Because you face that you stared at down. Have the courage to get off to that. Buzz that heartbeat. Yeah take take ownership in the thrill ride that the world thinking. You're out of your mind. Do what you've done for yourself. Yeah is putting you on an island. Which when we're on an island. You got two choices either. Contract and go umbrella malone fearful. This won't be or you're like oh yeah it's on me and is solely on me. I'm the biggest. I've ever been right now. Now you start to get a little bit of honor a little bit of pride a little bit of fuel and the days of resisting that with which you're trying to turn your way from now for the first time the day each day that you resist it more actually start to gain a little more power encourage because you start to like being on that island to love that isolation and you start to call yourself out because nordahl still going. He's got his mind so you start to force it. Oh yeah maybe i am. It's about time so you can gain coverage in the endurance of saying no to that with which other people are saying that your lane stay in your lane and you gain invisibly respect for that. Move absolutely because people go. I don't think i do that or they go beyond need to do that. That's a i think people don't chase dreams. They get discouraged by others who don't chase their own which this leads to another question. It's my favorite story in the book because of the relationship between you and your father and i think this is. This isn't the average. I think your dad was really unique and the wind. He put beneath your wings in the story. You call your dad You've been telling him law school you think is the track you call them up nervous about it. Your dad is your dad. I mean this guy's bigger than life. You tell him dad. I'm going to go to film school and you're bracing. And he says three of the greatest words could have ever told me in the way he said them with a little bit of greatness. Tia don't have acid. Yeah not only did you. Give me your blessing. Not only do you give you give you give me approval. You gave me freedom privilege you gave me more than privilege. You gave me freedom. you gave me responsibility. You gave me a kick in the backside you made me put my made me say goto. The line are which made a verbal contract. Get it son and that. That's that's that don't have. Acid is a good one that i think we could all put in our pocket for a lot of things. Just don don't half ass you're going to do. Something talked about commitment or their commit to. Even you know. I write about this book. Sometimes when we don't know what to do its best to pick something and commit to it and it will reveal whether it was the right choice. Because often i've done myself. I'm not sure your ba. Or a or b. And i look up and five years later. I'm still measuring ame. Like i never moved. I was a paralysis of analysis by not even just choosing one and trying it out and sometimes it's not even an important that choice we make is just make one commit to go find out you got more time than you think if that fails if it doesn't work comeback now you know come back to the other one with more determination commitment because you already approved. The first way was not the way for you or you start off and you go you end up doing something that you didn't even know you love to do but you would have found out that you committed down that path. That looked me the wrong path. It's it's it's it's it's true that way. Sometimes you know when i said earlier about knowing what would it do can be easy win. Do it wynn to pull the trigger. Is the hard part. that's that's that's also driven. I think it's an art of both. But i think for this conversation many of us get hung up in the limbo of. I don't know what to do. And i'm gonna half acid if i try to dabble over here. Let me dabble over there. And we got these little campfires lit in our life. But we don't have any valhalla bonfires campfires and pick something out and you say i'm i'm invested in that chunking wood on that fire. Let's go see what happens. I dare you know what. I love that your dad did a lot of parents still do this. And i'm not beating up on parents. Because i've got three kids three teenagers and and you know we as parents we want. What's best for our kids. And we try to protect them from something he takes your suggestion any simply goes all right. Go for give it everything you got. And he has the courage to let you do it and it speaks to the importance of having people in your life that if you get some friends and family who say. I don't know if it's a good move matthew risky if you make any money in that. It's really tough. You gotta have some other people can go to go. You know what go for it. Here's the deal on that. And i think this goes for parents but also it goes for the world of business right down the united states. We're all parents raise their children. We raise our children. Hey here's here's the here's the sidelines. say within lines learn this learn to block and tackle. She dismissed. Work your way up. The ladder evolve a little bit. And if you stay in there you got a good chance of succeeding to some extent. America regulations business rules governments laws. I'll stay in lines. Was what you gotta do that moment. When i call a father i want to go to film school and said law school. That was the moment that i think every parent really wants to hear their kid. Say and do. I'm breaking out. I'm going my own way. I'm not asking permission that even though i'm asking for your blessing he heard that my voice that i was not wavering. I was not bluffing. That i was asking him. But i really wouldn't ask permission. And when he heard that in my voice in the way that he goes you gonna do. How quickly i said. Yes sir if out of pausing. I mean he wouldn't have told me the same reaction don't have fast. He heard me wobbling but he heard that i was coming up. I wasn't bluffing. I wasn't ask permission which he heard that in his son's voice in inside i think he was going like yes. That's my boy now. I know i did well enough to raise him in a structure that he has the competence to say. I'm going my own way. Steve jobs creates the iphone. Private sector government every. Whoa whoa. you can't do that ed. He wouldn't ask permission. he goes off. he does it. It works it becomes a valuable tool society all of a sudden once you do it. The world goes bravo that we were looking for a renegade to go your own way but the thing is as a child or an entrepreneur. If you are ready to break out of the so-called structure better not be bluffing. Yes because the will put you right back in line if you're bluffing. So don't we come and ask permission when it's time to go your own way and don't be bluffing and commit a love it. We're about four years apart in age. And i remember the first time i became aware of us. An actor of a pig grisham fan. And i remember taking my wife. Stacey a time to kill did not know who you were as. Who's this young guy you know. It looks like he's about my age and this pretty cool. I love grisham. So i'm in and obviously that movie really puts you on the map and the story share in the book which i think is is one of the greatest. Teaching stories in the book in my opinion is You show up for the audition goodness. What is mom says to him. The day goes in. But i'm running short on time but you just gotta read it folks. It's unbelievable math. Mom is a is a treasure. But you nail the scene you nail it and joel schumacher. Legendary director says to you. And i'm paraphrasing. He says to you all right. Good job but now i want you to do that like you were actually making the closing argument and and as you tell the book you're kinda like okay. I got to gather myself and kind of tells you just got in his zone and you just you knew the lines you knew the story but then you did it as you. And i and the reason. I'm asking you to share this in the powerful lesson that i think schumacher was teaching you all of us. Is we all suffer from this impostor syndrome from time to time and i just believe god created us all just a little bit unique enough to offer something special. The world i think schumacher was going do it. Your way teaches from that. What was he doing there. Well so i go into read the final summation that was my screen test to try and get the job as as you said i i did. What was scripted. And i did it. Well what does it magical. No it was. It was good solid because good job. Now chuck descript way. Forget the word of say. And i got into his own thought about. I wouldn't have thought about what that was my daughter with my sister or mom. That was my mom. And then i just started saying things that no lawyer would say. I was costume and make vivid drawn vivid pictures verbally. That wouldn't be allowed in court but it got me to a place emotionally that he saw what it meant to me. What who. I would howard beale. If as a father does my daughter have how would you feel. That was your daughter. He saw how i felt. So i got there. That's what he wanted to. Really see is an once you connect. I don't need you to connect the dots with what's on the page. I wanna see who you are Kinda young man. You are how you feel about life how you think about the the loss of life someone's wrongful loss of their own virginity So he saw my heart. Come up is what it was like. Get rid of the head. It was like heart was my heart coming at how i felt about it and as i said everything everything i said wouldn't been allowed in court. But he saw that's when he goes he's to remember. I remember that he stopped me in the middle. Like that's enough cut cut. That's enough and i was sweating and snarling in in it. I could have kept going for another thirty minute. And he goes great no more. That's what you sit. While john grisham his wife. And that's what got me. That's what got me. The role in another thing joel schumacher did. This is my first lead role art. I'm as they say not carrying the move and i'm the lead i mean if my role doesn't work the movie doesn't work on the lead every every single time. I might start getting a little bit heavy about well. I don't know about it. He just come over. Put two hands on my shoulders and go matthew. You are jay. That's why i cast you your jank. It was the best direction. A director could have given a young man in my position at that time. Don't think about trying to be anybody else. How do you feel about it. How do you feel about. That's why i hired you for a reason. And i've heard that consistently for some of the directors. I've worked with that. You know. I've learned my craft a lot more than a new then but you know allow the really best director's going. We'll say. Hey you got a question. Or you don't think i hired you for reason. What are you what are you gonna do. it's great. it's great environment believable on an island again. It puts it on you and you you have to take ownership of it. Oh i am on and on. They did behind me for a reason. I am this role i end. This guy is time. I am the author. It's no longer the screenwriter script. It's no longer. John grisham book. It's no longer. It's not even joe schumacher's movie teas drinking but this seen my man is mind. Let's go to love it and a good one to take into what i think we can all get yourself a kick in the butt to ask ourselves that more in who we are life. Oh yeah that's what i took from. It is reminded that. I've gotta be me. I can't be a knock off version. Somebody else in and and i've got to deliver what i'm supposed to deliver if each one of us or more us ourselves. There's only one that's the beauty. Yeah i love. It gave me chills. When i read it. Because you know you love movies love behind the scenes anyway. But that was the screen tasks or the audition or whatever. I just love that. I want to talk about something. That's really important to you and it's always been one of the things. I've you think you know these people and we don't know you other than what you let us in what we learn about celebrities and actors and people like you are what you do when you're not on the screen and i remember probably one of the most influential movies in my life dead poet's society and i'll never forget that one of those early scenes you know robin williams is professor. Qian's got those boys up against the trophies that you showed them all these things and he he gets them all to lean in you know and he comes up behind him. He says car pay. You know you kind of whispers carpe diem you know and this mysterious thing. These guys like this guy's lost his mind and you know he kind of popularized that phrase seize the day carpe diem and he kind of made it like this pop culture thing and and you started foundation really came over phrase from a phrase and it's just keep livin no g and has a lot of you know personal significance and i wanted you to talk about that because i love what the foundation is about but i also think the thought really falls in line with with this idea of seizing every day and no matter what comes at you just keep living. Well the end of it reagan go we can hem and haw we want but at the end of it. What's the alternative. What else to do this. The show were in this. This thing called lighten our lot in it. What what else is there to do at the end of it. And that's all we can really do you know the does that mean they'll be an extrovert all-time see green lights out everywhere. Just go now necessarily. Maybe that means that you know i write about this. The autobahns and dirt roads in audubon and for you know take the road less traveled. It's based off that robert frost one or the road. Less traveled is not always the the the one lane that'll dirt trail for that person. Who is maybe a gore phobic or someone. Don't wanna leave the house. Maybe the road less show for them as the autobahn to go across the street and actually go get the mail or go down the street to the community store. That is an That's the road less traveled for them. And then you've got somebody who maybe is is very popular an extroverted is the life of the party will. Maybe they're road. Less traveled as re dan book. You know so yes do take. The road less traveled but one one more one. That's not always the dirt road for everybody. So you know going forward. It seems like it's it's a both. Just keep living. There's just keep living choice. At every intersection choices. We have in our life and at this very base level you could say what is the most life affirmative choice. That is not as i said doesn't mean going out being an extrovert everyday. Sometimes me for just keep living means. Hey i need to go home and spend some time. Mme dogs need some introspection. I've been flying man. I've been embracing everything i need to go. Have some introspective time. I need to go away on my own Other times i'm writing a book. I'm loving the writing experienced so much in love and solitude. I don't even want to talk to anybody. I need to go out and engage with some people more than i have been But there's a. There's a just keep living choice at at every every intersection which you could say or does the most life-affirming choice and there's a place where it's both life-affirming for ourselves selfishly and for the most amount of others self leslie you know. Think about what are the choice. Make to give us more. Roi more residuals in our life. We engineer green light. We engineer our futures. And we have our hands on the wheel and that doesn't handle everything sometimes we're done unto but we gotta give myself more credit about how self determining individuals that we actually are in that. Take a thought before you do something that you're not sure hop out of yourself five years from now ten years from now and ask yourself ten years from now. What am i going to think about this choice that make a now. Am i gonna be happy with this choice. Am i gonna invest more delayed gratification. The choice now that will give you more freedom tomorrow. Responsibility taken today that can give you more freedom. Tomorrow those are just keep living choices. and were the ones that are legacy choices. Choices we make that are not only gonna shine a solar power green light in our future in this life before our kids and their kids and their kids. How far forward can we project. And it's a good practice. Believe for all of us. Try as much as we can. It's so good. I i i'm gonna let you go but i've got to ask you know when you read this book you've been doing a ton of interviews. I'm so grateful for your time. It just makes me wonder. Is this book and and the thoughts and this kind of different offering. That we're seeing of matthew mcconaughey. Is it green lighting different perspective. A different avenue for you in the future. You're still a young man. I think it is. I think it's opening up. You know new avenues for me. I one of the reason. I want to write this book because it looks as an actor i go in. I do someone else's script directed by someone else lens through a camera by someone else and edited by someone else so there's four years from my rog suppression before it gets to you on a screen. The book is one filter. i'm directing and i added. It's my stories. It's on a page though. So you're reading. This live is no filters mean. Stand up for instance. There's no filters a leadership role in the future for me. Which i am interested in is no filters. That's who the what character am. I going to be in the big show the one all in called life. That's the character. I'm more interested in now going. You don't need to go in front of the camera and get recorded. The history. The hands of time recording. Who are we live today where the cameras started rolling for you. Remember the thousand nine hundred sixty nine matthew and it'll stop role in cut will be called the day you die a. That's that's. That's the avenues that i'm looking at now and the character that i'm looking at play playing in one. That would be say hopefully more myself. The nikkei yeah. I want firm. You encourage you. I think you've got a spirit. I love your work Always have always seem like the do that. You know the one actor on screen that you might want to hang out with actually on the golf course and have a stogie in a beer. But i love your spirit more and i think that's coming out and all these interviews and is this book has been written. It's really beautiful The book is green lights. There's so much in it. It's really encouraging. This is not your celebrity biography. There's so much grit and glory and again it's a love letter to life. Matthew thank you. Man i appreciate you got a million things to be doing. I know that dog needs some attention. And so i gotta let you go on that but thanks for hanging with absolute anytime. I look forward to the next town right. Brother big thanks to matthew mcconaughey for spinning his valuable time with us. Hope you enjoyed that as much as i did. Reminder of the new book is green lights and available wherever books are sold. Hey if you enjoyed that conversation let us know you can do that. By rating the podcasts or seniors an email and ask can coleman dot com filing. Would you share the episode. We think this conversation will help so many more people. 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Matthew McConaughey

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

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Matthew McConaughey

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You gotTa Check Out Green Lights. It's his new memoir and I have read the bulk of it and I fucking love it. As you'll hear, he is a rare bird. He is. He's a Unicorn he's a unicorn form tweet tweet he. that was good. That was in character he would say. You'd say Unicorn he'd say tweet tweet and it would make sense out of. Anyway man and we have a party talking to McConnell. Thank you, Matthew, mcconaughey for coming on the show and please enjoy. MISRA. mccown a we are supported by hymns a wellness brand for men the DAX. Shepard uses regularly to keep my hair. I have a real dedication to my hairdo. It's a big part of the and I really WanNa keep as much of it is humanly possible and guess what I'm doing pretty good job and forty five, and there's a good amount of locks up there still is. Now you've heard US talk about hymns and how they're helping guys look their best. If you haven't, it's time to see what they're all about now the problem of course. Is. 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Okay thanks. Slows everything down and spells it out Now I really wanted to do this in person. In fact, I think at one point I offered to fucking fly down to Austin because you tell me if you agree. I think we have rhythm well, you and I think we got rhythm to, and we both noticed that sitting into like little wicker lawn chairs in front of a lake and a friend of ours birthday party one morning or evening I. Think it was a morning. It was a morning and I'll tell you from my point of view what happened which is know you're very attractive charismatic guy and a lot of people give you attention. So I kinda slow played you. I gave you your space Friday and Saturday, and then Sunday morning. In the morning, just gotten out of the shower and I said. How you feel and you go I'm building towards it. I feel like shit now but I'm I'm around the corner from feeling pretty good. Yeah I've learned over the years don't get in a rush. The frequency will come what's up. There on That will. Basically. What happened is we were just about to make love and then rob. Rob also know that you could go back and say the same things but take to always sucks compared to take I don't believe myself take two I by no I don't either and I I do in front of the camera and I'll go they know bullshitting talking acting right they're acting I'm always better I mean that's why I have to Improv because I just don't believe myself I got to see something a little different or I don't buy it. Okay. So this me saying hello to you in the morning as I recall built to you and I sitting on a lake people like you know they had packed up their stuff they were rushing out we talked about the slow exits. In both of our our love for long road trips and then you told me a story about your dad that I think of upset out loud in my head probably twenty times since. You're talking about both our dads died of. Cancer Right now he died Meghan loved to my mother well. Yes That's true but I can't imagine that was the cause of death was. Caused the death opposites heart the heart attack heart was unable to pump enough blood to the rest of his body to keep him alive at the time of climax, and that might have had something to do with two and a half to three packs of filterless camels cigarettes. He smoked today and yet still coming back to us while he smoked one and had another one already in the Ashtray we go poppy sure you're supposed to smoke and he says doctor says, I got the heart of a twenty two year old high hurdler. Monica how times if I told you oh, the Harvard sworn two zero. Yes. The best reference I think I've ever heard back to this lake chat. Another thing was I had been dying to ask you this. You know since I, think I've been aware of you which is at one point I just said you man, you have some constitution right because me you know I haven't drank in a long time and I I couldn't handle the mornings I had to drink in the morning then it. Turned into like three day thing and I see you fucking jogging every morning and I was like you have the constitution. I. Wish. I. Could Buy on a shelf. Well, thank you I mean discipline. I'd say probably some people close to say that that'd be one of my strengths I mean I never have been one of those people the next proverbial next. Oh God never doing that again well, Bullshit Yard to Hang Seng. Also I'll check in the night before going. Okay. What are we got tomorrow morning you know what position here now got tomorrow morning we don't start eleven. That's pretty easy. Always started seven. Okay. Okay. Risk reward here. What are we imagine? The group what's everyone poor in this night on the way down or are we about to switch into third gear up and then? And if I choose to say, okay, the rockets are GonNa launch here and this could go till sunrise I. Get my mind right they'll go head off that night look in the mirror and go hey, buddy this is to suck tomorrow morning. Dog through this, we're not gonNA, make me. We're GONNA get up and down effort that we're going to go run and sweat this standing out and tomorrow GonNa going to be. Hard issue. Are you in. On it not. The, next morning. Just go. Here we go. Man Baseline. Great. That is great and then I also told you a story while we were sitting there, which was a good friend of mine was with you on an island on. New. Year's Eve. You guys were having a great great time and eventually you outpaced him and he had to shut down around I. Think he said three or four in the morning he could still hear you at the Campfire and stuff he then crawls out of bed at like ten in the morning. Returns on the TV to watch the UT game in old matthew mcconaughey sitting in the fucking sidelines in. How? How Is. Is he and he said you looked amazing full of energy bright eyed bushy tailed, and I was like what a constitution. Yes sometimes, we do need more than twenty four hours a day. They just haven't been given any more than that last check. Make tally. Oh. My God. So I'm reading your book a slow reader but I'm extremely slow rear truly enjoying it. You're such a good storyteller. Thank you. Thank you. I've been keeping diaries for thirty six years and they ended up in a treasure chest I. always be next to me daring to say, Hey, one day I'm going to open those up and look at my past and see if anything's worth a damn and I never had the courage to do it really just too scared of I've never really I'm not really started to sort of move forward. Don't look back which you did you did. Part of this, I think cool. Now, the part is I was just too scared to. Embarrassment Oh my gosh. I was glad we forgot about that party or whatever. I. Don't know. Maybe it's coming on fifty and sat there and I had a few weeks and I looked at it, and that'll treasure chest was barking at me and said come on. quit talking about it. Big Boy sounds like all right and I told my wife. She was like that's exactly what you need to get the hell out of here. With those diaries, go pack up your your cooler and your meat and go somewhere and don't come back to you got something and I had always thought like, Hey, you know I'll move on in martyrdom maybe Camilla good friend will open those up and if it's anything worth sharing, they'll do it and that was also kind of a chicken shit call too. So I took off with all those diaries I went off to the desert on my own with no electricity kind of the same thing on that next morning I said, we're GONNA take our time here. Let's see what unfold what comes out of these pages and I got this idea that it's GonNa be all academic stuff. I'm really thinking Oh. This is going to be like an educational tool well, after about four days I'm looking at them going. That's not what this is. This is stories, people, places, prescriptions, poems, prayers, and a Shitload, a bumper stickers. So it was philosophical, but it became much more poetic and storytelling much more storytelling narrative to put together chronological then I suspect it. Had those categories that I just ripped off to you there the central team that sort of expose itself was man you've had a lot of red lights and yellow lights in your life hard times or bumps in the road. Makaay. But you found green light to them either by turning them into green is denying that there was a crisis at all in the first place or just waiting it out and see and how you know the red light death of your father actually turns you into the man that you've become because you didn't have him alive as a crutch anymore. So over time going through the last fifty years of my life is. A lot of those yellow and Red Lights I had turned into green light and been talking to people. That happened with a lot of people to yeah. They will turn green for us either in this life for the next tomorrow, we're on our deathbed. So immediately, I related to you because I have kept a journal to very sporadically from about. Seventeen to my late twenties just checking in occasionally but then I got sober and I got kind of superstitious about I can't dedicate twenty minutes in the morning to writing this fucking piece of paper right? How much am I really willing to put towards a school so I did it sociopathic Lee for thirteen years never missed one morning but I wonder why you journal I, Journal. Because I had an inflated sense of purpose I thought I was going to be special I wanted to documented if I'm being honest and you were correct. Take, these little adventures I was on a six month road trip wants. Fantasies of being care Wak or something, but I was just curious. What even motivated you to write down your thoughts in your life probably thought that I was going to be special and. All those things Oh. I remember being in a movie theater I don't remember the damn movie it was, and I remember consistently in a movie theater laughing at stuff. But I was the only one laughing and then not laughing when the whole crowd laugh I was always like I like the subversion for the second underbelly joke the way it was delivered I would laugh in the pause that pregnant pause was like that's. Loop and not maybe the punch line then I would have certain albums I would listen to her music or also films. I would watch that I would cry else is like, what are you? What are you? What's the Ding you'll get? So I'd find something said that no, I'd get ticked off at things that other people are like, what are you mad about that for but I wouldn't get mad at they're mad about. Yeah. So I started driving this down ago. Unicorn McConnell hey, or what is this and then got confident of to say, Oh, other people feel that way too. But you need to jot these things down because this may be an window into who you are as an individual and I want to be autonomous is I can I don't want to just say, Hey, what are we supposed to laugh? When are we supposed to cry when he was supposed to get mad when we supposed to be happy and I started? Jot those down and sort of become a private investigator on myself and just enjoyed that, and then all of a sudden was like well, if there's anybody to be interested in trying to understand no better person than ourselves. So that became a live project very sociopathic about that. I did very early on notice that you typically go write in a diary when you're having trouble Sharon, you're looking for an answer right and I learned after about eight years of doing was like. Okay. Don't just go to this diary when you're like, oh, I need to hide out and. Make sure you take that twenty minutes when you're flying high and you're like. I got it all figured out because there's a science to that satisfaction. So let's write down. What do we been doing who we hang out with? What were you reading what we eating the for me is like the also catch your ego. It's like a great time to check your ego because I'll be like ruminating on something and then I'll write it on A. Piece. Of Paper and look at it and I go oh, my God, you're repugnant that part has helped me. Yeah. But but I don't you think that's also look I don't think the ego gets enough credit. I'm fan of ego we don't have. We don't have judgment. We don't have discernment and there are certain things. Trust me that I've written down that I think Oh. I'll look at it the next like. You and I mentioned that morning talking about I think it's a brand of comedy that is my favorite, which is called delusional optimism. Some one of the best things for comedy the delusion only optimistic character the ones that just like bulletproof and you're going you're not. In the Blues Brothers Right, when that that woman blows up the phone booth And go sky high, and then they come landing when they land the thing breaks up there's a bunch of quarters elated. ONS to this. All affirmative. Now, it's been useful to me to have that I've only really consulted it to be helpful. Once in my life, I was starting to move the EGO. No, no journal the Journal got it. So let's start a movie. I hadn't auditioned for it. I just got offered it right and so I kind of just was putting off in my head what I was going to do and three days before the movie I'm in a hotel room and I'm starting to think I'm a fraud I'm not going to be able to do this I'm terrible and I just had the force. I'm going to look at my journal from right before I started the movie before I go back I read it. I'm a fraud I can't do this then I read day. WanNa filming. On the best actor that's ever lived on such an asset to this movie and I was like, Oh, this is just my pattern and I'm just. That helped me just go like, yeah whatever I know where there's GonNa end up but I needed to sell righty. You know it was. What about the fact that you also saw that? Obviously give them enough to believe I'm a fraud leading up because I've got butterflies and what the Hell am I doing I'm in the known I'm unbalanced, and then all of a sudden when they put me in the game I perform and go you damn right. asking. Hey better than the other way around Oh God. Yes. I know a lot. In, times of my life where the lead up I'm like. Watch then. And then showed up and eight shit. Now your childhood is spectacular I. Think I have some overlap with you but I just WanNa start immediately with the fact that your dad early divorced parents, right I have early divorced parents I also dad was a big figure big guy at my brother had defied him. He wanted to fight me he wanted to fight me and he was he was about nine hours out of a hernia operation. So he's got a shirt off. He's just shoved me on the bed in his stomach is just stapled together and my excuse I was so happy you wrote it the way you did that you were honest that you fucking you're scared and you weren't ready to do that because. I didn't WanNa do it either. But I had the excuse of I'm like Dad I'll fucking kill you if I I'll. I'll rip your your innards going to Paula. So I always had that as a crutch to lean. But truth be told I wanted nothing to do with him. Know, something about your father all yours in doing that, your your dad was six four to sixty five so that that's a hell of a scrap to get into. It wasn't going to be much scrap I mean I was like I said in the story I. Mean I pissed my pants just the idea and I said my fist were like would have been paper mcshea. Yes. He offered you know puts out come. To my one. You know and it was not even in my mind. An option that I wanted to engage with whereas your brother rooster whose similar sized you. He went to the end right? He did. Well, that was his right as he did earlier and from that day on him and my dad were best friends. But Dad challenged his loyalty to the book did a similar thing with me I would say it's sort of when he said destroyed to me when I asked him if I go to film school when he goes don't have facet. Of Him going you step that align and you're bold enough to go your own way. Well, when he was with my brother rooster and is the story back going to roll the pipe which they had always done that and there quickly got wants his dad's sold oil piping and then his brother rooster whose considerably older than you how old is sixteen years older? Okay. He then became a salesman. He starts crushing lands is huge account with a guy and his dad was like let's go steal some pipe which they had done in the past which they had done in the past. He Dad says, let's go steal it from this guy who got the accountable. Brunner brothers like Oh that come on and all of a sudden. My Dad's starts the thing the way where's your loyalty saw? With mayor him and they're pretty drunk at this point I'll add your. Not Doing it. Oh Yeah. You're not gonNA listen to your old man and they got into it and two by fours wrong rocks long and Dan. Rutz traumas knocked him out finally and Dad couldn't see and got up the ground and when dad cried and hugged him was like that's my boy. Oh my God. Bless me. You told me you told me no way dead. I ain't doing it and I'll fight you for it, and that's where my dad was like from that never another argument with. Russert. You ought to do that. They were best buds because rooster bucked him and said. Nah what a mental game Yep. Now, when I'm reading your stories man, there are so similar to mine. So my childhood was you know there was a good amount of violence. There is a lot of divorces there was I saw my mom get beat up. And I can tell the story in a very entertaining fund way and a half for years and to me some of the some of the shit that I think's really funny troubles other people or it sounds very scary and I respect it. But your stories, you have a sense of levity to them in you put them in this context where it's like, yeah, it was really messy and it was fucked up but it resulted in mom quite proud to have been give out honored honored to yeah. Now within that though your smartest shit in. We've learned about Ace's like childhood trauma and they they have a pretty profound effect on people. Do you also have a sense that like? Yes. Some of the stuff may be was a little too rough for human. Is it just your point of view in life? That's like everything happens for you and not to you or have you ever considered like? The fight you described between your mom and dad is insane. So Dad comes home me wants more mashed potatoes mom thinks he's a little too heavy flips the table up in the air she grabs a knife. She hits him in the face the foam brings his nose like this is the kind of story I tell and at the same time going that's a very stressful situation for a kid. Yeah. So look at the time I was just young kid for four years crying mom and dad are screaming at each other fighting with this could go no no, no, no, no, no, no no no you know and the fact that twelve inch blade was pulled out. Probably. Didn't make me go. Oh, this could be mortal, but it was just another at heightened the circumstances and there was no screaming no in a mind you oblivious to me. This is a great thing about my parents. It's not like they were going to become objective in their own present and go oh, wait a minute matty's over there. Maybe we should send them to know stepping of it if you got front row seats the Rodeo good for you we ain't checking your id about how do you are here? It goes live. There was also no in our family. No later on. Hey can we talk to you about that type now? No, you didn't. Dive in because what was the last? The last image was the green light after their bloody. She's swinging this blade at him. They're dancing around the kitchen and all of a sudden. He swipes this bottle of Heinz Ketchup. She's Like this and he's he's like A. slathered your ketchup. A dancing like a matador. Going to Shay. cousy store. Ask, he's getting frustrated. She can't get him with the blade and he's she's covered now with ketchup bumps and she. Drops knife, she's crying and dead bloody nose Hunguana jobson catch up, and then they just go walk into each other down on the floor and make love on the kitchen floor. There was always there was always. That's what they needed to communicate. Was it was it wild and violent in front of me and something you go well, that's not really for four year olds odder anyone's ask sure but it was you see the reverence in the honor I have at the tell another story and there's unequivocal love and my that's what I think supersedes all of this is the halo around any of the events we knew we were loved I knew mom and dad loved each other I. Knew I was loved I. my brother's knew they were loved saying I, love you I just don't like you right now. Well, that was one of the Times where they didn't like my mom to this day goes. Oh I don't regret that fighter at. Twenty of them she goes I needed that to communicate we my mom's middle fingers broken four times and goes like she's like Oh. Yeah. I started those fights pop him in head I need it well, I'm glad I don't need that like she doesn't have my wife Camilla doesn't need. Talking into that into that that, my dad would had to get into her and I don't want that rocky of a relationship, but it also I think is part of maybe it's generational as well. I was going to say it's the context, and so I grew up in seventies as well, and I also grew up in a very blue collar area of Michigan where that kind of stuff was pretty regular. So you didn't feel alone or isolated or unique because it was happening knew a lot of my friends and it seemed. Normal. So that's relevant as well. I. Think never done any psycho analysis on any of that stuff. That's why I'm here. I've wherever I've worked through I mean I'm not in denial of it when I tell about the love of my family I'd tell about the Times that we were disciplined or the times when mom and dad got in a fight maybe because it's so vital and so alive and it never became something that was above the absolute love and passion in I'm not here to judge it I'm not here to say. That's unfair and you should have called job protects ship. Now none of that. Shit it's what I saw and when I tell those stories I light up. Yeah. Not In fear on paper like you said earlier you. Know. But now I'm telling it or I'm writing it, my heart is swelling. I am beaming in love and pride and honor to tell those stories because they had great value in my life. got. Through them essences really is like challenges are inevitable how you going to react to them resilient is a big thing I mean if anything that's something that is really ingrained in our whole upbringing is. You Get up dust yourself and you move on forgiving you forget you don't go to bed holding grudges you end up the fight would our blood is let's make love before we go to bed. Whatever I've got to be with you. If we can't settle it tonight forgets Tamar we'll stay up all damn night and deal this work this out until you and I can hug hug it out and drop it to your and head off and we will never bring this moment up. Again I can't hold a grudge on you. You can't play added up with me. If I bring up two weeks later we'll DAX. Now I'm in trouble again for bringing the damn thing up because we settled that that was over we've moved on from that. You know pack it's busted with weed. It's violent. He lies you know how's it end? We take a thirty five minute truck right across town to the Best Burger joint to go get burgers and shakes and to bring them home. PUT THEM ON. TV Trays Watch. TV. Awhile, we dinner which we never got to do unless someone got in trouble and stay up past our bedtime and go to bed hugging and never another word set about it. So there was great resilience and we could move on quickly. Now the loophole in that I've found in my life is if you're so resilient that you just back up and. Get on with it quickly, you never take time to actually get introspective and go. Why did we do? How do I have? Future Yeah. We're also guilty of being repeat offenders. We just so quickly, hot backup and go. Yeah, we're good. Instead of going. Why did I step in that whole in trip myself running downhill Check that change at the next time. Well. Not Surprise you Monica to learn that there were divorced twice in married thrice. Dirty nine years. Yeah. I was I was live for one of them The two brothers were live for the other one. We thought they were extended vacations and that kind of war I just WanNa have one last thing I only started reevaluating some of my stuff now that I have two kids well, I just kind of look at these little kids and I know the ages I. was at when this or that happened and I go hm that'd be a lot for my kids to handle absolutely a whole lot. I think it would be more for them to handle than it was for me to handle sank sane. But also in that for me was like this great forgiveness for my dad who kind of split it three where I used to hate him over it. And I look at my kids now by the way, it's why loved interstellar once you have kids the notion of missing your children's life is most sad and that's the last movie I cried in that movie. But he missed the whole thing and the notion of missing the whole thing for me. I'd rather be dead. So right it also led to like forgiveness. So I'm also I'm like critical at one point, but then also there's a bunch of forgiveness. Yeah. Those two can be part and parcel I I say this in the book you also find out and you get older that some of what your who your parents were the messenger in the message to two different things made me angry after my father passed away and I found out certain things like wait wait he didn't live by that. He taught me that no, no, no yes, he did. No, he actually didn't he. I was anger but very quickly for whatever reason I was able to get up. Okay. Okay. even if the Messenger. Didn't follow through hundred percent on the message. 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The trophy. Framed picture me trophy and mom put it up in the kitchen on every morning they'll get your son there you are. The one. Only little Mr. Texas. So this going on daily weekly and then her introducing me this you know he one little mistake he. Goes on, and now I'm just like, yeah, obviously taxes. This goes on for you know little decades. He was little Mr. Texas. Okay. I want. MR, Texas, I was a little Mr Text. Until. I happen to zoom in on that trophy named the plate on that trophy one day just a couple of years ago. runner-up. Runner look with the gift she gave you. She did and she always to this day. I've drag find called her out on it just here recently she's like Oh, you were a little Miss Texas Teen Feminine Too much money. They were able to buy that three piece for you you. You're a little mistakes. She's still denies it in her mind isn't that great by the way? This is just hit me now but. The greatest asset I was given and a big burden was my mom thought I was the second coming. She thought I shit gold and that made me I mean that gave me way more confidence than I deserve. That was like the original bb was mom thinking you're the shit yeah. What if you write become you because. You just thought you were runner up your life. You might not have become you talk. I don't know. It's it's more. It's more than a Malibran I mean. Little that doesn't happen. We're at Queiroz Matthews puts our enchiladas on the table that goes pretty fucking handsome. I can't believe he's what happens. I wonder who is really little. Mr Texas. Find out he's out the he'll come surface. Investigative journalist piece on the real little Mr taxes and just see how. Doing. Yeah you his mom didn't tell him. He was runner off. No? No. No. And see probably didn't tell them that they outspent you either. He's probably have an organic about the whole thing. Okay, and then another great like really telling thing was matthews in seventh grade in there's like a poetry contest. and. Works his ass off on this poem, and then he reads it to mom and then what what does mom do? Yeah I go back right this poem. I'm pretty damn proud of it and showed mom she looks at she's like. Yes, not bad. Man. Comeback to try. More. Go back. Harper and the two hours come back. Sex 'cause. That's not bad. Habits one that she pulls out this book. Opens it up she. Read our. GonNa read it and I go. If all that I would want to do would be to sit and talk to you. Would you listen? Good because. I mean, that's really good and short. Short. Author was an I think an Ashbury I think she'd like to go. Yeah he goes. Do you understand it? I go? Yeah. It's like it's just you know. Love and somebody sometimes you just WanNa you know we take some quiet time to talk and she goes yes, you are you a you understand that I go. Yeah completely understand she goes. Right. But it's supposed to seventy approach to gotta might not she I know but you understand I go to into right that and sign an aspirin she goes no. This. You understand it for you as. Write that inside your name to. Know. All. Right. If all that, I would want to sit and talk to you. Would you listen Matthew mcconaughey and can one that? You did. Doc. Do we just watch or something like almost ten hold of that happen we watched the dock recently. Remember Oh. Oh, it was Lance Armstrong it was Lance Armstrong because he was too young to compete in these triathlons and so his parents just you're eighteen, you're eighteen, and so they started off with a little bit of a Feb and he fucking one those triathlon. Did. Okay. So all right. That's informative. Right. Oh, my God. Yeah that's exactly what it was. Mom was shooting a substitute teacher. She tried to become the substitute teach for my. She also taught me in kindergarten, but she was the teacher that mind you. We're this we're sort of in chapter outlaw logic. We're like very teach real disciplined if you've got to do this and you'd better than this you better be honest better than cheat lie. But Damn, and I have Mama's a substitute teacher. I come home she's like. Here's the answer to that testimony. It's it's a stupid it's stupid subject. Don't read that, but she come in and tell me shut that quit studying years. Stupid subject and you don't need to spend your time on it just take the. One hundred. was. said it'd be like, oh it's harder because my mom. I don't know why they're making study. Don't you just shut that book go sit here's the interesting and. Also. You know kindergarten like. Studying trains and she was like, what are we looking at these damn books reading about it everybody come on loaded up a bus drove a bus Amtrak put all the kids on an Amtrak. took it to curve like didn't even ask the principal nobody. Landed back like eight PM. Local news is there the parents are there? Where'd you take our kids? It's like what? No no teachers assistant nothing wrangled by twenty something kids and just took them on what she's like. That's the best way you learn about a Dan railroad track and train you go do it. Or read about it. Okay so so then you and I love how you are about it because you're just charming motherfucker and you're handsome as hell. So you get to high school this is a good one to you. Going through all these they're so fun. Go for it. Okay good. Talking about your whole acting career but I think we know you're acting. This is more fun. Yeah. These are the stories of why became an actor? Yeah. He's a good looking dude. He's got some light light acne. You know a couple of pimples. Arm, but his mother is involved in I. Guess We call now a multilevel marketing company where she's selling. MINK oil. MINK oil as. Oil Minks. Oil mink is is a topical face solvent. So she notices that Young Matthew struggling with a couple pimples and she says, son you got you guys are using this product it's revolutionary. So he starts applying it liberally I would assume, yes and religious every night right before bed make all over my face says it will bring out all the impurity. And then once it brings them out they're gone and then for the rest of your life, you have beautiful clean glowing skin sure. So before it gets better yes. Yes. Darkest before dawn. And you're fighter you're willing to put in the work. You've already demonstrated day I'm into delayed gratification I'm up for early pain for long-term gain. Okay. So the as you might guess, the The pimples are increasing in both volume and quantity. Got A lot of impurities. Keep it. Up. Oh, this is great stuff. We'll get all these impurity servicing. And they now become I guess cystic right you use. Now you got a real problem on your hands I have a real problem I'm kind of unrecognizable and and and. In. So despite his mother's urging he, he seeks council with an actual dermatologist who shits himself. When he finds out, Matthew's been rubbing oil of mink over his face because it's for people from forty years and over not a fourteen year old kid who's just going through adolescence into already has some some oil coming through his pores it's blocked all the pores complete. So. For the last month I've oh, guess swollen up severe acne and he says, if you don't get off that and we don't get you on accutane right now and you're ten days away from heaven ice picks for the rest of your life. So I get on the accutane. Yeah. So he so he gets on Accutane, and now we all know that has its own side effects, the very dry skin, cracking all this kind of stuff but here's my favorite park. This is exactly what my dad would have done. His Dad takes a look at this whole story and he goes we got a Goddamn lawsuit on our hands. They ruined his now boys. Yes. And the dad takes to a lawyer. His lawyer says, I have to imagine urine in great emotional distress from this and he's a bright boy so that caught dad's back. I. Ha- high emotional distress. Doing. Well, at the ladies now, no one will talk to him. For a high schooler confidence is shy. And he's now recording this and Aston Again I'm GONNA go under if you've been under distress. Yes. Sir Mr Major. Motion Digest is your. Competence is much lower. Sir How are you doing with girlfriends I the girls used to like me a lot more like they're just not interested in Warren's exit people look at me finding WANNA walk I'm not doing near as good at the girls either my dad and the lawyers. She had Jim. Fifty. Grand of this deal easy I I mean look at all swell up can't even written as kid. Dancing on this bottle about not giving it to get you said, the company's irresponsible Oh we got grand easy. So go through the accutane. creases amount all this stuff tall. All get the DANDRUFF. BUBBA. But it works as you know in lawsuits, go on a while well about a year and a half later now I'm a senior. Aquitaine's worked skin great. We're back I get called in for the deposition. Now with the defense attorney right back Jerry offset same office Rusalka fifty grand. You're all swelled up the catch. So now I'm in there and got coffee table he said Oh God. Poor, poor boy. Most. So emotionally distressful wasn't and I'm like I can't believe he just used our term slobby softball I'm GonNa hit this out of the park. Yes. Heavy emotional distress. Audited. With, the girls there was no sir. He asked me that question to. Me Up going no horrible goes wanted nothing to do with music L. and all that didn't you got that. It horrible and I'm sitting there thinking, this is the worst defense attorney in the world. He's just played all. We got this guy we're going to get fifty grand or more. Recently table pulls out this green yearbook. Opened it up. Turn it around slides it in front of me and goes who's that. Look down there in this picture. Was Myself next to very pretty girl named kameda springs. Across it hurts yes. She had a sash that said most beautiful. Best. Said most handsome. Year I one most handsome. All his. Bob. We blew it the case it's done and I looked up at him and he goes so emotionally distressful. And in the case was thrown out. A Regular year going God. Damn. You boy I mean we've got a case where you're gonNA make fifty grand. You gotta go off win their most heads. Why didn't you sandbag that? We're an eye patch every year Jesus. Yeah blew that brought me back to. So my dad to my dad was involved in many lawsuit, and then another thing was he he had all kinds of businesses and one of them was ICAN call selling who is under a charity guys and it was a hugs not drugs work book that would be distributed to children to keep them off drugs. So when I was fifteen, he kinda wrangled me into this and he'd wanted me start making calls to try to get donations from people and donated. They got a little ad in the hugs not drugs book gripe. Escalated to me actually going to like Rotary Club meetings at fifteen and line telling these people that I had had a really bad history with drug abuse and that if I had had this, hugs, not drugs book. I wouldn't have seen all those dark days. On this story Oh. Yeah. He helped me crafted. So. Laurien Oakland County making these really impassioned speeches about how wayward I wasn't how I would have been saved if I had had this hugs not drugs workbook. Crushed I sold so many. Manatee that book never made it out. Of The And I'm not sure that there was ever a distribution. Kiss. But I don't know that the hugs not broke. Look would've helped I mean I love it. Yeah I love our parents you know used US solicited us to go yeah. We'll make news and you make some cash coming in. I grew up with a different kind ethic, which is like by Hook or Crook. We gotta get some Money Child Labor child labor. That's great. That reminded me of the one where they were. My Dad was out with a bunch of his friends at a ranch they haven't who compete the highest contest. Let me break this. Is What they would do is they'd stand against the wall then they put a line over their head and and. Basically, it was a shootout. And His dad was six four. So that was an impressive height. That was the second tallest height. There's another guy there Fred Smith who was about six seven and dad one, the six four, no one could be over his head but then nobody could object don't go higher up to six seven. They couldn't get that high and their beds moves. I ain't nobody can piss over my head, and then my dad gets an idea because he's got his eye on this little miniature dirt bike in the corner and he goes my son can. Go what no way dad goes can well. That had to drive one hundred and twelve miles back home at whatever one in the morning to pick up my brother Pat Wakeham out of bed, and of course, what are you doing your kid wake up right in the middle of the night you gotTa go pay no no, no, no no. No. Hold onto it put him in the truck gave him a beer and sip on that and feel that bladder. Twelve miles back. It's now about five in the morning. Passes Underwear and dad shows up and they're all kind of hanging out just go to get I wake up boys here is my son's GonNa Piss over your head Fritz Miss Fred steps up there put Tamar, impact it's. About five inches because what are you bet? What do you bet with Red Smith? Was He goes I'll bet you that little motorbike. That my son can do it. Why did he do that? Because PAT was asking for a motorbike for Christmas but my dad couldn't afford it. Child Labor. Poker Dont. Loaded up the motorbike took it. Home pack got a motorbike for Christmas anyway. Pickup trust we yet areas to me. It's a mix of child abuse and super chased. Mixed messages. Okay. So you graduate from High School Matthew's mother suggests that he go study abroad before he goes off to college and so the rotary. Club says yeah we'll do this. We'll send you down to Australia. In Australia. There's one thing all these people we send WanNa come home in a couple of months they're lonely whatever they come home. So we need we got to sign a contract. This is you are not leaving within that year I'm not going to sign a contract Sam not leaving you. I'm telling you I'm going for the year. I'm not I'm. Not GonNa sign, it just feels weird deciding I'm going for years now. So I'm telling you everyone wants to come back everyone says they're going to go for the whole time they all want to come back need sinuses look I I'm not gonNA sign it, but I'll shake on it I'm going for a year that's my full intention he agrees. So next thing than on a plane headed off to Australia really quick. Can I just say what your fantasy is? Well I'm picked Australia. They offered Australian Sweden. All right. So I'm sitting there going. Beaches waves Elle macphearson. English speaking Australia it is. He. All, right. So Bam I'm off. Here we go. Now I've got a family that's written. That's going to be my host family and they're no, we're so glad to be happy come here math. You've got a great little spot here on the outskirts of Sydney SP- beautiful sunny beaches. It's just great. You'RE GONNA. Love it. Wow. Sydney Petropolis major see. All those McPherson's probably they're. Going to serve he we go man well, show up. And playing in this family I you helped me with what details not to do because it's a forty three minute story if I'd tell it. The Dooley's meet him and how the boy they have a son. How old are you twenty six? Guy and they start drying little brother. They're excited the. New little brother and they start driving, and now all of a sudden matthew notices the skyline of Sydney is is pretty far in the rear view mirror and. But okay I, still see the beach then they get to another town maybe seventy thousand he thinks this is it nope. We got a little while later. Okay. Well, this is getting a little dicey or now we're in a town of twelve, thousand eight. They've now said that's where they basically live and as they go through that town, he's thinking okay well, I can still see the beach and then we is a little bit further. They end up in a town of eight hundred people completely inland not by the beach three zero five. Population Rio vows. And these people are fucked in weird. Dude. It sounds like Oh horror movie. Now, it sounds like a hormone dad is tiny and rotund he wants to act pause and elevated and Smart, and he tells Matthew led me. You know what you make us dinner and he says great I'm GonNa make you guys hamburgers and he goes you know I'm not GonNa make you hamburgers I don't make cheeseburgers because the man who invented the hamburger was smart but the man who invented the cheeseburger was genius I may immediately takes them to his office. He points to a picture of Winston Churchill and says. Matthew that mom's a genius and he doesn't want you using that word. Lucky to. If you stay here no household you learn appreciate fine wines, fine cheeses and not to voice your opinion for the masses. which part because all ago you stated did not question stated demand invented the hamburger month man she's burger was a genius many. That is merely your opinion. Okay, cultural difference with what what is just it's a phrase as often as I said. Well, let's do. The basically means I like cheeseburgers more than happy. As I said. You understand I'm like, wow, what's going on? Okay. Well, quite a few other things happened after that that were it gets weirder and Weirder, and let me say one of the things that's probably sensitive but the twenty six year old boy also has a girlfriend there. Did she had a crush on me or did the mother kind of want us to Gavin crushing each other in front of their son News twenty-six in front of everybody at the whole family lined up one day Saturday and they're about to leave and I'm washing dishes and I get called in the room. Go give her a kiss goodbye. Yeah. God you kiss on the Lippi's. To hold out really quick just two weeks ago I was explaining Monica that in New Zealand and in Australia. They love baby talk. So kisses, I just was excited just kind of confirming. They love to do it ease at the end of things. Yeah. Yeah. So and this was in the room with with her and her boyfriend. Son My big brother and it was just it was. It was all rude. I'm confused what's going on to she across Shamir wait is the mother trying to set situation here? Is this just a bad joke going wrong whatever anyway I handled the situation in this cool ways I could with myself and her and she thanked me for now. Okay. But again, I was like what was that what was that all this time I'm telling myself after everyone these situations okay. Makoni its culture differences at this is cultural different I keep taking the high road I'm not judging anyone. Until the night came this about five months in over dinner five thirty where we had dinner every night now module by this time. I don't think I'm going insane. But when I look back my diaries, I was kind of going insane and let me just say there's a part I really related to you with because my urine. Santa. Barbara I just up and said Oh, I'm going to be fat free. And I just started jogging and I don't know why I got down to like one, Fifty, eight I'm six, three, I looked depth same like Ab-. So out of control that I just wanted to control whatever it could something some sort of reachable discipline to accomplish a day to keep your fucking sanity. Yeah. I'm running six miles a day I've decided I'm GONNA be Vegetarian. I. Don't know how to be vegetarian toy basically the head of iceberg lettuce tonight a for forehead of Iceberg Lettuce Anabolic. Ketchup. And that's my. I'M CELIBATE I'm celebrate I've decided now that when I leave this year here, I need to go to South Africa and help free Mandela that's my calling, and then after that, I'll become a monk even though you went there for Elle macphearson things really young. L. Version his way in the rear view mirror right now it's going to be foster surfboards and McPherson, and now you're going to Tibet. The first letter back home was hey, mom dad. On the Barbie Love You Matthew now writing like sixteen page letters. Minute writing with way too many AJ that is an ad burbs just imploding right I. Don't notice it and got two albums of three hundred Maxi priest Maxi priest in excess kick and. Enron rattling want great albums of all time Kerr. CD I ever owned really. Good choice good choice I. So here's my rich every night, and this is still when I don't think anything's wrong. We dinner at five, five, thirty, I, clean the dishes then. Fast I can't get back to my bedroom bathroom. I'm reading the Lord Byron I get the Bathtub nightly reeler Byron List my radom. Jack off nightly ritual. Have a Yank work it out. Everything's Cool I'm nothing wrong. You`re Right it's what I'm. Doing Great. I'm in Huntsville, you are opening up your cultural horizon. Infinitely yeah. You went down there to get worldly in your fucking world became in print. Oh. Oh. My Gosh extreme close up. So I think I'm find cultural differences Yay and I'm not even halfway through this year trip and one night I this dinner table. We've decided that. The. Have you stay. You, will refer to us as mom and pop isn't this a horror horror movie? Yeah. Yeah. But again, I take the high road and I go well, thank you for thinking of me that way. And I remember you'll love this tax I remember saying this line and I remember clearly in my mind like thinking I needed to give that comments more context I go thank you for thinking of that Ma- that way but I've got a mom and dad and they're still alive I remember stone that little. that. Were in that will win the argument. They'll understand I say and they're still alive. Yes yeah, Oh and by the way now you understand right when. Anyway. As I said, did you study destroyed mom-and-pop? Well, I got clean. The dishes made sure to go call everyone their name not mom-and-pop when I said good night next morning Maryland clock was a howling shrieking voice of Mrs Duly Screaming. Cool May. Can you believe. This. is so horrifying I. Go to her and I mean I really liked her she was really caring lady and I go to her and put my arm around her and then we just have a cry fest and I'm going man you got your sons you wouldn't want them call me when. You would want me and we tried it out and. You're eighteen in your comforting and adults. Anyway. Went through the year finally got. Real quick. He eventually thank God. Went to the Rotary Club. I assume and said I like to try another thing not because they don't love it but I just want to have as many experiences I. Didn't sell them under the bus or anything and I just look at or any other families could take in a year here maybe. And it was tough times over there the economy wasn't great. You Take An. Exchange student you've got another mouth to feed. Let me check into well the guy who had managed the bank that I worked at earlier as a work experience shop agreed I like to his family. Liked me. I liked him. They took me in all all that whole. There's one great thing. So he gets cleared to leave, and then he tells his family, the Dooley's that he's GonNa legal is that going to? Basically ignore it for a day or two. They don't bring up Newark for four days. So this comes up, we agree on this that I'm going to move out Mr Dooley Grease me Mr Dooley and the president of the road of talk it brought up in the Thursday night rotary meeting on a microphone in front of everybody. He's going to be leaving the Dooley's GonNa move over with the domes. and. Thank you to the Dooley's for pain to create hosts. Thank you and thank you to take him out the next. Now then we meet afterwards, hug out shake hands. See you Tuesday. The Guy's going to pick me up that I work with the banks are picking up Tuesday at six PM. Great all set then I ride home with Mr Julie. Not, a word is said about mean, they get home next day not a word said dinner silence next day not a word set the family knows now but not a word said the next day that was Thursday. So Friday nothing said Saturday nothing said no group over for the family to come over for a goodbye dinner for exchange student you. Know that no one's there are five thirty dinner nothing said Sunday again. Monday, not a word is said, it's just silence of getting the silent treatment and not one word of you're leaving Tuesday night is come Tuesday. We're dinner final. With Dooley's I've got mice, burke led us. Here we go. I've been packed since last Thursday night. Now, I backed up that night when I got on once we agree and I'm sitting I'm going this is so we're just so weird I go back to my room after we eat. It's about five, forty, five cleaned up. I'm quadruple check in my bags men make sure I got everything which I do and also get enough on the door open and there's really Have decided that jere style you'll be staying with us. So unpack your bags, you'll be staying with us for the duration stay in Australia. Again. I'd take the higher. Necessarily thank you. For offering. y'All been great and and it's it's my year over here I just WanNa. Make sure I get with other families have different. As I said. And Pack. Your. Bags. be, staying with us for the duration of each stay. Why fucking lost in Through a left took through the door and it was a plywood doorman, my arm going all through the other side and I ripped it out and apply plywood it cut my arm all up and had blood running down would shards and shit here and I'm just fucking shaking probably got piss just started on my crotch and I said I said Mr, do you fat fuck out of my way right now or I'm going to take you out the fuck and back door and drag you down your gravel driveway. You're going to be pulling buck of you back through the rest of your fucking life. Oh. Down the hallway and I'm going what the fuck. He's on your. Congratulations breakpoint. My brow clean up my arm pull the shards out. On about BBB look at six o'clock guess WHO's here to pick me up. Next. Family. Hugging bags down the hallway past that office where he took me to tell me, you talk to Winston Churchill and living room at the kitchen through the garage into the and there's my my man Mac, who's there pick me up in his Land Cruiser and around glad-handing and hugging and dry in tears is the daily Fat Mike and I roll my bags up and they put him in and then like a huge such a great young Oh God uses experience has been great. We're going to miss you so much and I'm going. Yeah Yell To. Know what's going on? Even Mr Dooley's drawing a tear man. Oh. Man. Yau Car we drive off the top driveway ball joe back on the how and I'm like what the fuck now. Cut To. Five months later, it's my last night in Australia. The last five months were much easier and less acid trippy Y-? I never found L. But still how Everything went everything will. Maintain. Being celebrate actually and I. Came off the old iceberg lettuce and catch up. A little bit an ran three miles instead of six but a little bit of weight and still thought I might be going to South Africa to Free Free Mandela. But thought that maybe among wasn't my way in life because I wanted to communicate like again. Yeah. So we're around the last night doing what we always did drink and port wine playing guitar reading woody, Allen Side Effects, laughing our ass off telling stories and all of a sudden. One of the families that I'd stayed with they were all friends the last three pounds. To one goes. Hey Mega Hannah plenty hills you. Stay with the. House, like what are you talking about? What he's like oh Mon.. What I they start laughing I'm a gas going you can you knew? And they even harder. All around and I start laughing and I was like, was this a big Ozzy Prank? Was this a six month bit. S. Eight in the book I mean it was in crises. Sure. But I was denying there was a crisis and there's great value in that. I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you right now if I didn't have that year and that six months with those. I was in high school role in. Popular had money my pocket of four. HANDICAP LITTLE MR Texas is Still think your little Mr tax a little Miss Texas right? And, all of a sudden I run into a great amount of resistance and enforce to go inward because I have no crutches. Add fringe. I have no cars. I've got a girlfriend got nothing and I'm there at the Dooley's. Imploding but it was good it overall and I honestly know that I would not be sitting here now if I did have that year over there. Yeah Yeah. Stay tuned for more armchair expert. 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Now I'm GonNa take a completely different mountain I see that peak I'm going to try to climb that I just wonder, yeah. What is it that you learned there that is allowed you to go from my favorite performance Melba, toast is packing a four fifty, four, four eleven out back. You know to take that role and make it what it was and then have this time to kill experience and then being a ton of hugely successful romantic comedies and then go like okay now i WanNa do something those are all hard things to pop out of pop and other things. So you have some resilience and I'm curious what is the process and more importantly in those periods just before you made these left or right Turns were you feel lean humbled by it or were you feeling scared like what were those feelings that led up to those big jags a lot of fear but a lot of sleepless nights not sleeping well with the life that I was what I was doing say workwise or or where I was heading to a lot of fear from that because I go between I'm sure like you man I mean on one hand I sedan. Thankful. This position. So on one hand, I'm like who the hell do you think you are to even be thinking like Oh i? WanNa. Get Out of this. You're successful at what you do. You're making money look at where you live on one hand. On the other hand I'm like. No. No No. No. Wait a minute. I still respect that I'm not being disrespectful to where I am. Right you're not being ungrateful. No I'm not going to be arrogant with, but I know I want something different and I want to try and get an either I can go to it or like I did before I took the two year hiatus with no work when I got off a romantic comedies if what I'm going Toward. I'm going to by process of elimination stop doing what it is that I am doing what is coming to me. So I've had phases where I didn't rebrand unbranded by just going pressing full stop and I'm out at known sees me no one knows where the hell I am. So all of a sudden two years later mcconaughey becomes a good idea a new good idea I've been pretty good when I look back saying. L. Out of here because I got himself thing I don't know who's wagging who whatever happens I don't care if I fail this what I need to be wagging the dog and not done the tail wagging me. Yeah. Almost like the analysis of win the leave a party, right? You're like, okay that person's out of the party that person's out of the party I'm still standing here either Jan for me to find a new party or I'm GONNA. Last one standing here. Yeah. Well, and and the hard part for me probably in particular that my greatest strength resilience and I can look around those people that partying on why they quit. So soon, I'll stick with something. So sometimes it's bowling through to the other side just persisting enduring I'm going to keep my head above water until I come out the other side things will change for me sometimes it's like no, I'm GonNA backup I'm going to address this I'm going to make a different decision and there will be consequences that come with that and consequences that come with the persistence part too I think is Much, as I acting celebrity this never for one second inside of me been like that's who you are that your identity, your existence. That's what I mean when I say we're just keep living comes from I mean that's our right as humans I maybe it's the spiritual side and maybe it's a family side maybe self respects out of going hey, are you being his true? Can't you right now? Okay. So what I really relate to is like I'm from a family of Hustlers my dad was a car salesman. My mom started his agenda built a business like I'm all about the hustle. So yes, I've been in these moments where I'm like you got a much nicer house than you're ever supposed to have. You got the cars you weren't supposed to have. So shut the fuck up then I also am. Addicted to challenges. You know that's really what I'm addicted to is I like that that's the sole feeder is the Kennedy that's it right and let me go try it out and then I'll know if it doesn't work I can look in the mirror and go yep guilty if it does work I can also look in the mirror and go yep guilty that's a great film it's the unknown when you're being wagged End Up here I'm not feeling any demarcation between events it all feels like one thing and my feet aren't really on the ground that limbo it is a gilded cage, right? So what you're getting offered in that point in time. Is Very hard to turn down if you have the background that you had or that I had, which is like who the fuck in my to say no to that many zeroes my family said that to me not Camilla but my blood family. Yeah and if I do will I ever get those amount Zeros there on my way because while I've been seen as ungrateful and all these things and what did I did I- jinx myself did I get cocky why did I Jack knifed my situation? It was going well to everyone on the outside you're catching green light but then that's for each of us to only each of us can answer what our own personal green light is. I be right from the outside to say that it's kind of Wolf of Wall Street that's the breakthrough to where you wanted to go creatively as an actor. Well, the first thing that came to twenty months of dry no offers came through nothing I was just romantic comedy said no to, and then it was just nothing for a year. And the first thing that came my way was killer Joe. Maybe it was Lincoln but I think it was that little run killer Joe Paper Boy Magic Mike. Mud Wolf of Wall Street then Dallas Buyers Club which I had control dowse buyer's club. There's no one to make it with me, and then it was a run there like there's the dramatic fair that I want. I talk about it in the book I mean the romantic comedies were great. They were fun. It just got to where I felt like, Oh, I'd read them and I go like. Oh I could do this tomorrow morning and that's cool. I wasn't getting complacent warning I didn't know how to do anymore real work that would make Oh, and that's the theory I've got an a book about the art of running downhill. There's a lot of times when it's easy, we should be damn appreciative. It's easy. Go do not make this straight line crooked bro you're you're rolling downhill do not trip yourself face plant and you're also making a living doing this and you enjoy it don't get all heading on this situation. There's other times where we go. I need a little resistant here I need some gravity here. I need to rob against something that I. so I can mold something different. Yeah of myself. So it's fun when to measure in many many different circumstances well, I think I told you when we were sitting by that lake mud for me is that's probably my favorite movie viewers something about it. I think from where I grew up and there's a bad lands kind of vibe to it. So great everything's so patient understated they have real no hurry. So. Awesome. That's a very special to me and probably not one of my favorite. Maybe my favorite because you know my dad's been been, he moved onto ninety three five days after I started my first days confused, which was kind of serendipitous that his life overlapped with me starting the first thing that would not that would be more than a hobby. Yeah. But mud I've always seen my dad and I see him daydream many times coming to me and going hey, buddy you see in this movie mud my notion. Oh, come on the whole. We're GONNA. Watch it too good one. I can hear him with his armor Amazon Oh. Good one. And that gives me tangles. So let's Piss some people in Austin off right now by talking about how great it is because every time I do people get pissed, Hey, you're gonNa make more people live here. Maybe I'm lying to myself I feel like if I could that's where I live there's something there it's Barton Springs it's barbecue it's liberal hillbillies I don't know what about that place but the second. I stepped foot down there and I see the grass grown up between the concrete and all the cool manhole covers. They're all different from different everything about it. I'm like, yeah, this is where I'm supposed to be at all times. It's the people there it is that mix it's the blue berry in the tomato soup of Texas, that freedom and progress progressive thinking that Austin has next to the backbone being. The capital traditional legislation and surrounded by vertebrae of red counties is part of what makes it was surrounded by more blue I. Don't know that Austin would be the place it is. You're right. There is a unity there, and at the same time, it's a come one come. All all you gotTa do is be yourself place it's not saying stay out red counties not know we're still wearing boots and scraping. Shit up our boots and Austin too. You know what I mean. So it's a great push poll at the university. So you got fifty thousand students right here at an institution which has youth coming up liberal arts, questioning things progress, and across the street you've got the capital and there's the suits and ties and the backbone of legislation that has been around for a long time tradition and where those to. Reach out and engage in play is. Danni whole. Push Pool if the capital wasn't there and we weren't surrounded by the residence or identity sort of pander out and become a little too obtuse you know now yeah. Yeah. No, it's a weird wonderful Yin Yang. That is just palpable when you get there my last question for you. So I have many times on here expressed deep gratitude that I don't have sons I am so glad that I don't have to. Be. In the position where I tell the sun, listen you just GonNa have to knock that motherfucker out the I'm sorry you're getting picked on. You can get picked on the next eight years or you can blast this dude wants in the nose and that'll be that I don't WanNa be a part of that cycle and yet I don't know what other vice I could give and I also don't WanNA fight myself. Like right so informed by my childhood that I don't know how I would transition into this world. I. Certainly Want my kids live and so I just wonder with you having boys, how have you set that course? Great question because I'm in process on that obviously my my Sandra twelve the one that came in and brought me the yogurt manigault seven and they have a sister in the middle. I would say that is one way right there. They had a sister in the middle. In some form or fashion boys, you're GONNA be younger. Livingston. You're going to be older Levi. You're going to be in the same school a lot of times yellow cap, your sister in whatever fashion that she's your sister now look out for each other as well and yourselves. But that's just your sister look at her and you're gonNA know the boys that like your sister. Now you'd be real honest. Do you don't do you approve because we're going to go to you when you're six I I'm going to go to you you know you know that boy Young man does he worthy of taking your out? So giving them a sense of that is one. I've got one child that is. Much a pacifist that he's going to turn the turn the every time. I've seen was going hey, that's beautiful. At the same time. People will try and take advantage of that and we'll sit there and keep pushing if you don't stand up for yourself and fight back and so they're welcome time probably on that proverbial playground you're gonNA have Santa. Physically do something or said this and happened before you know what your answer is to that kid on the soccer field this pig on. You go down right now and scorn his ass, and just when you go by don't gloat your or you go guard him till you could you want to guard him? Yeah. Yeah and and and then beat him. And beat him and don't say a word that as your. Child is much more physical and if him he's more the one I'm going. To hit everybody. Talks some of these out to. You can, and he's by no means a brute or a bully, but he's much more physically confident and would be the one that would much more quickly go. Oh yeah. Yeah and you seem work it out between themselves a lot too though especially in these Kobe Times where we're not on the playground with everyone in the school physically you see them work it out. I mean our youngest one is tested our oldest one because he's actually more physical and we'll come at your harder and the oldest one is faster though and smarter things and I'm talked about. All right. If you don't want to engage with Livingston on the physical side just outwitted. Yeah. Judo judo now, and so just not it up to where trick and he'll be like, oh How'd you get the last piece of cake? Because I knew where to put or whatever that is So I mean I'm still navigating year by year day by day. Within and is I'm told it's about to get more complicated because those teams come up and we'll go. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you got to get that oil. Conditioning. That skin. Glowing. That's you know the other another big question here in in you know this man in being in the fluent positions we're in. Coming from similar backgrounds where we had different resistance and given to us in different ways from the where we live to what we drive to how we were raised disciplined everything else. How do we give our children? The right amount of resistance to be autonomous individuals because if we're saying, yes, all the time and going yeah just us all the simplest t to we are life is yeah we're doing them a disservice I now I think about it all the time like I, look at my kids I go. They got a God goddamn swimming pool in their backyard. I knew one kid town with a swimming pool. Yeah. How can you tell what do you mean? You're bored board? That's good. Now go figure it out. You're not turning on the tube you know whatever that is. I. Also think like Oh my God like I grew up somewhere where I wanted to go somewhere. There was a Shangri la and I wanted to visit but they're already here. So Mike I duNno. Where are they going to want to go? You know it's all interesting and at the same time we want our children to own the affluence that we have. To, be false modesty like now my dad mom aren't they? They're not no yes, we are. Yeah. You know when someone says that you live in Don't get shy go to fill. Don't feel guilty about this owning Yano in acknowledge your privilege know that you've got a responsibility to help people. You know I had a responsibly try to get all this shit. Now, you've got a responsibility to help other people who don't have the ship. And take it up a notch in another way. But what are you know? We talk about this until out of time in our family we all want relevant but we need to ask ourselves first relevant for what you know and what's America's say success is right now we'll generally fame and money. Well, that value systems a little out of place, we try to talk to kids. It's not about the bigger thing is better always you know I have that thing in the book when you can ask yourself if you want to before you do. You get all these things you and I grew up in ways where. If you get offered something go. Yeah I mean I've never had a option before and then you have to go in and do I really like my jeans pressed. and. Also, I am sure you've had the same experience idea which is like, okay. I got all these things I thought. We're going to magically make me feel a certain way and then I had those things and said, oh I still need purpose I. I haven't given myself purpose that. Same lines in front of a camera purpose right right I. think that's the ongoing thing. I've got a that Langston, Hughes Poem America yet. Is really been sticking in my mind was so much about not just for America for the world for each of us individually to realize that. We never arrive right. But if we just stay in the race and commit to the chase and go. I mean, we're trying to achieve the unachievable and so just keep trying it to stay on the adventure of it, and that's when if you're a believer that's where I think God's going. Here we go. Yeah I think a lot of the general anxieties, the fantasy that we will achieve this utopia. Then we will build a wall around it, but that is not how this is. All working with every single generation after us is going to want to take it somewhere else and that's the given. Yes, indeed. You're awesome. You're fucking book is so well written and so fun to read I cannot wait to finish it because I got to find out about the peyote in the cave audio version. Yeah. I did and I and I do the La over. Oh Perform. A lot of those characters we were talking about Oh. Does that out the audio. I think the same day October twentieth October. Twentieth Okay Oh. This is great. Oh, I could hear utilize stores just read. Yeah. It was fun to do the audio to thanks. You're talking about man I quite enjoyed talking to you and it's been too long since we sat around that Lake and said, we were going to do it and here we are and neck Sammy. We'll do it in person. Yeah. Can't wait wonderful we do have rhythm I was right and I can't wait to see you. Need to. Be. and. Now. My favorite part of the show the fact check with my soulmate Monica Batman. Here. We go. Did is fact Chai? Fact Jack Tom Anthea Paulo I don't know that's that's not a song. I just put together a bunch of words and they barely went together. It was the song that you love from Las and translation Oh midnight at the Oh as says, uh Oh, put your camel to bid. That one. Only. Gives me the worst feelings, hickeys really icky feeling because I think the woman was staring into. Bill Murray's is where she sang that quote sexy song and it just wasn't sexy. Boy taken a big swing being sexy is is scary. I know but also like necessary. GotTa do you gotTa figure out what is sexy and what is just too perverse? Well, sexy is authentic. How about this? No you're fucking audience. Well, yeah authentic is a great. Thank you. That's probably the key. Yeah. Because if she was trying to be sexy, that's what's crazy. Yeah. That's the rough part Yup. Also again now onto step two, which is less important. Know your audience. Agreed you know. But if it's a stranger in that case, it was a stranger you can't know your audience. Wasn't in this you go. You go midnight ad you. Just kidding, can you imagine like you would see pretty quickly and then you just try to play it off like show. Okay. Right down with that. But then what if that guy the audience actually hates jokes and so then you take three okay. Okay. Midnight at you. As A. I'm just kidding. Can you imagine and can you mentioned by me jokes all the time they'll be the worst I hate jokes. Let's fuck. You twelve. Back. Parallel. Park. Central. Park parallel partners good your buddy Kelly's in town. Yes. My bff Aaron weekly is in town and is lovely and. She's living in London London. And I asked her for some Intel about your theory on ring panel. So we asked her about some Intel about the brake pedal because he's been there for years since January. So going on ten months. Yes. and. From what I heard I can't give specifics. But from what I heard seems very true. It seems a little true jet them. Hard for you to admit I'm going to say a little to. Leave a little wiggle room. I don't know that it's at the women don't have a brake pedal, but it does seem like the men do have more of a brake pedal in the English culture than here and just act in general more of the role that of female would play here. Conventionally, yes. Anyway I just thought. You find that interesting because we can never really find a real data on that and she's doing some research for us. We got a nice piece of anecdotal data that supported my theory. Did you take her to your new house? I'm taking her today. Okay. Can I tell you something that you have to get your new house? Yes. Okay. You're going to get annoyed by this because I'm in love with the entire product line, but another thing delta. Town me about. Three listen another thing Delta. Delta faucets is this class renter. ooh Okay. I gotTA say a maybe I've seen one at a restaurant. What does that before? Okay. Well, let's just start with the problem I complain and I know you have it to you WANNA clean out a glass. You cannot get the sponge in there and your hand to get to. That seem or the base of the Cup meets the walls of the cup up particularly hard time doing with our blender bottles at I shake Brinson. There's so much residue left his incident. So what you do isn't it then then I resorted to getting this big stupid long scrubber that doesn't work either. And it takes up way too much room on the. So then it's under the sink. The whole thing is a pain in the neck and I hate it. The glass razor. All you do girl is you set the glass upside down on this sprayer. The glass rents are has a super high-powered water jets and it reaches every little corner and. you set it down and you look at the glass in its spotless. I I want that on my coffee cups and other time that I really hate I hate clean those coffee cups put it on the Glass Renter. Jets done also I. Really Wish we had it when we have baby bottles that was because I have so much anxiety that you really want your baby bottles clean obviously because your babies drinking out of it gunk in there and those are nearly impossible to clean because the mouth is so narrow. Tang. These genius. The revolutionizing the kitchen. There's no question about they're also incredibly easy to install, and you must have at your new house. Okay and in fact, I'm getting one for sure when we build a new attic, you are obsolete that far two thousand dollar Ma. Well, these expensive mug. Have just floating around this attic dirty. We don't have a glass rinse for here, but we're going to get one. Yes I'm gonNA take her there. And then I'm probably I would like to figure out a way for us to eat Houston's O that's going to be toughy. I might have to be a pickup which doesn't sound fun. Yuck that's that's going Oh that reminds me I bought a new car yesterday a new old car. Yeah. And I had to ride my electric bicycle out because I didn't have anyone to give me. What because you have covid? I do not don't say that you had Kelly there and you hadn't been you had been tested but the results weren't in yes. Yes. So I couldn't hang with you. So I had to ride my electric bicycle over to get this new car for. Was it. Well, it was out in Mount Washington, which is I was not far from Pasadena. I could've just kept on going into Houston's wow, that is a long way. You're your bay I wrote it even further when I dropped off my last purchase, the four, fifty, four s when I drop that off a were farther away than the airport. What just you don't know I told you the story and then I rode my bicycle, my electric bicycle twenty, six miles through. A war zone and remember I was saying the city's got so many facets to. Any who remembered it was that far Geez was not far. This was only five miles abuses as the crow flies is probably only and a half miles from here but you know through the highway system in la can be beat out. anyways are you gonNA drive other and get it? I don't know. TVD Not supported by Houston's I just want to say that but we are mentally supported by Houston's because we love it so much brings us joy. We do. I haven't eaten there in along breaks my heart I like the environment food is off the charts, but the environment is really special. She's very sexy in there. That's where the woman could have. Sang that song in it would've worked. The context would have would bolstered would've buffeted would've would've boost the performance her performance the leading when we just musk enough that you'd be lying yeah Donald Trump men to yeah put your camel the bit. Why does someone put their camel too bad I mean you tuck it in and till options one you've misheard bi like late likely to. The camel cigarette, put it out a Ho. Not An oasis is exists in a desert where you ride camels across, it's clearly a Arabian nights theme song. Midnight at the oasis put your camel, the Do ACIS, be a club and it saying. Lights out what's it called? Last call last call don't let the door hit you in the mass. Well, the only way says that was in mine area growing up was the standard gas station Oasis truckstop where Timothy McVeigh plan the Oklahoma City bombing do you know that for rail real? part of the Michigan Militia. In, this gas station as was just five miles from my house. Wow you. Should have stopped it if you get to time travel yeah, I know you're gonNA. Go hang out with my grandma and do things. That I won't want to hear about although remember I mentioned that and I really just WanNa to take Brad Pitt back with me so that those to make love and I can what witnesses that's true. But also while you're like in route, can you stop Timothy Mcveigh? Would you? Okay this is this is I you`re Trap but go ahead. 'cause I'm going to there's going to be an ethically correct question and there's going to be what I'd really WanNa to know. Do you feel like if you could time travel, you would go back and change something like that something. Man Is it's it's always so hard to say, I wouldn't you you wouldn't kill Hitler I. Yeah, it is hard to say because I people be mad at me but it's like the movie frequency. I don't know if you remember that movie with I think Dan Quayle Quail Quaid. Quaid. His name's. Um. Gets. Dan Quayle. The Not. Daniel Guede or any quick. Daniel Quaid, it's Daniel Quaid. His brother, Randy Quaid Dennis Omega oops Hi Dennis. This is a great actor who I like a lot so. That I yeah. Great balls of fire. He played Jerry. Lewis he's got a great body boxes. You know he's everything about them but it is married to your girl from You've got mail Meg Ryan or years. Yeah. You got it. You got. You got it now. Okay. Well, frequency. So in that movie is communicating with his son. Talk. Radio. That's right and he's dead. He's a firefighter in a dies at the beginning. So of course, the son wants to stop that Oh yeah and it turns out you shouldn't do that or let's take a lesson from back to the future when biff takes that sports ALMANAC like a list of victories and then he becomes super rich and then we can. It's really hard to say because you know, Oh, well, World War Two. It's hard but you know all you have to you wouldn't have to kill hit or you'd have to go back and kill the assassins of Archduke Ferdinand. And there'd be no world where one right but here's the thing i. Guess what they're probably would be a world war one like the Austria Hungarian Empire probably would have invaded some shit. They had an excuse I. Don't know it's hard to know it's so hard to know. But what if you killed Hitler in the second you stabbed him in the Gullet you've vanished because somehow feline hands right led to a different version of how he discovered the nuclear bomb and maybe everyone had it at once and maybe it was all nuclear assault. The first time they were used mainly there's no humans here. Exactly. That is a lesson from frequency You bring one person back to life some other people go. What a great tale. Great lesson. Owner, how many people were like the? Fence about whether they wanted to time travel or not, and they saw that and they go well that settles and I'm not going to do it. I mean I kinda thought thought about it. Well I would definitely time travel. Just, try not to tinker with anything yet but you would, if you bought Brad, if you brought Brad Breath Hugh broad pet, if you brought him to my grandma, you are you're GonNa Vanish me. Think, she won't be able to get enough of it. Obviously. Is it then I'll vanish you or you'll be even prettier because you'll have half of Brad Pitt's DNA you it won't be me you. You understand that right like. You exactly you but you'd be better riding motorcycles. One time I you know I think this is the thing kids think. Like I was telling Delta about this way too young but she is a very big brain. She could understand it not the Faucet Delta your daughter, right? We're not supported by Delta, the daughter just so we are again like we're supported by Houston's for supported by them motionless. True. So Delta, the daughter said something about then that person would be my mom or dad or something, and I said we'll actually know if mommy had a baby with a different person wouldn't be you. It would be a new person that's a mix of mommy and that person and it wouldn't be you. Want so she didn't care. Good Yeah but anyway. So if Brad Pitt and my grandma engage in sexual activity which Congress which is why way yoke saw. Each Other. Even. Okay. Here's the thing. This House light it is even if they do. and My GRANDPA and my grandma still have the same life like just extra just one night she has a little secret. Keeps tight in her heart and at night. She. Maybe she lets fingers do the Walkin. And remembers that evening with Brad Pitt. Who arrived in spaceship Oh figures That used to be baiting while it used to be a phonebook sane for the yellow. Let your fingers do the walking in their logo is two fingers walking because people go through the pages they'd flip the pages Ch-. Okay. So I'm now using that please don't sue me yellow pages. If you're in existence still you could let your fingers do the walking. That's a euphemism for masturbation. gravitation. At I guess it'd be grandma. Bay Grandmaster Bachchan Grandmaster Bay Grand Masturbation it's masturbate. Sounds like grandmaster flex a little bit. A little Raunchy no, it sounds a little like white supremacist Graham masturbation something about. Master. Oh. Yeah. With all the Klan. Members. They. have. Titles like Dragon, master, and Imperial night of the seventh kingdom I guess I could also think of it in terms of Harry Potter I'll think of it in that way tunes Posner Yeah. So my grandma and Brad, Pitt engage even if it's just one time random night, still the mix of over the EG. Ovum. The egg that would have been the egg that would've been. Mixed up with my GRANDPA's sperm to make my mom hold on a second. She's not getting pregnant but I'm Brad. Brad pullout. An we're going to visit in a moment in her cycle where she's not ovulating. This is gonNA. Kill the baby. Well, of course, we can plan. For the. Baby not a baby but. What if because she has sex with Brad she she doesn't she has a period. Okay. I don't know how that's GonNa affect up because some eggs are going to get released during her period. Oh, you mean why? This brand because? Okay. I'll tell you why hold on bread can't affect your grandmother's ovulation. Period. When Brad comes over as a Friday night, she's going to start her period on. Saturday. Okay. Okay. So she instead of having sex with my GRANDPA to make my mother, she has sex with Brat. And he pulls out everything's fine. Then he leaves he comes back to twenty twenty and she has appeared back just to be clear he's coming back to nineteen ninety seven. I'm GONNA swing in and get legends of the Fall Brad Pitt tips. Oh, I'm sorry. I. Forgot. A couple steps egg So then she has re period. So then after that, she has sex with my GRANDPA and makes a girl but that girls not my mom 'cause my mom was the period egg that still that doesn't make anything getting done. Oh Yeah. Doesn't yeah. Because egg that's coming out in one period is not the same as the more different eggs. How does Brad Pitt Affect Grandma's psycho i. told you. This is so easy to follow Oh. You're saying that she had sex with Brad instead on the day of conceptual Bono I can look up win normal was born. And I can backdate that and I'll get Brad in there before they that moment. K. This is so easy to do correctly. Without any butterfly effect. Oh Yeah Butterfly effect another one man this is a really well warn. Thought experiment it is yeah. We're. We're no we're diving into a lot of well worn material. Right, well, Matthew, mcconaughey Hey, speaking of movie stars speaking of Hot hot movie stars. There's few people. Well. There's no one I would wanNA trade lives with I like mine the up yeah. But if at gunpoint I was either going to dematerialize, never have existed or jump into someone's body he be high on my list. What about Brad? Think. Matt's having more fun. I think he's having a lot of fun of met his wife. She's absolutely stunning. And smart lovely. She lives in my favorite place already. That's true. He drinks successfully that's drill. Yeah. As you could do worse UK might we get by the way we should commit some real time to who would be our backup body. Okay. All right. I'm throwing him in there right now there might be others that that end up passing him but I don't I can't think of one now. I would trade. Bodies. With. TRAE bodies it's. Your them. Okay if I'm them. Bill Gates Ruth Bader Ginsburg she's pastor. Yeah. Oh. Do they have to be alive of Gore? I can't pick. Stalin well, then I would have lived that life and I would have felt happy. I don't know well not as Stalin but no as Ruth Bader GINSBURG. Okay. Let me think of someone alive yeah thriving. Comparable age? Preferably. Oud Maybe Michelle Obama. Oh really good that would be. With Your Dream Lover Yeah and I look mine's the opposite of yours. I'm not picking a life that's easy. You want to be proud of yourself and I want to have a great time. More I feel like I'm already burdened with trying to. Do the other thing it seems nice to just have a good time. Yeah, I'm not interested in that. You don't want a good time. For good time don't call me. Are though I know who you might be who Michael Jordan Well I hadn't thought about boy as I might be Tom Brady. Von He's not having as much fun as Mikan. Show. I would not pick I might pigs as he beat. So I stare myself in the mirror all the time. I would never need to do anything but stare in the mirror he knew who I'd pick who well. I'd probably picked I was GONNA say Jennifer Aniston obviously. Yeah. You would have been on Front I. Would have been on friends. Bread that's right or Dave Chapelle, you're GONNA be him. I would definitely want to be real proud of your. So I'd be I'd be so proud of myself being license I'd be magical I a genius that'd be exciting. He seems to have a good time. He's been through the ringer till he's been. Yeah. Many made a decision of high integrity. He navigated right out of it. Outta calmer waters and weather I. I was thinking about him last night as I was falling into my slumber and. Are you is this a boy girl difference. When you like someone that much are you horny for them? So I am not horny for Dave. Chapelle. Okay. But I am you want his respect more than anything? I'm Never GonNa get it now there's no why would he would he be? No I just don't think we do the things that the people that he seems to admire hold on are like. Really, talented hip hop artists that seems to be who he respects a lot. He hangs out with a ton of hip hop artists. That's why tips France was. Out with enlightened. People. who also can slang great verse now Kim Bradley. No. Their friends nobody is Is Much better actor than US okay. I'm gonNA quit off everything. I'm going to start a new profession where Dave, Chapelle respects me Oh we gotta find out what it it would be. He of course would respect you I'm having fun. You don't do the things that I feel like he's drawn it's probably not gonNa Cross paths with me. No. Actually, I'm not GONNA say that I'm GONNA will that into being in K. and we're going to be friends. Okay. Great. Would you be satisfied just being best friends with them but he doesn't respect you. I rather as not 'cause pads if that were the case or here's your options. One is he has the most undying respect for you like he's listened to all two hundred and fifty episodes and he's like this is the best woman on planet Earth. And I never WANNA meet her. Or you are best bros. with Dave Chapelle, you hang with him, go to live shows in the Cornfield in Ohio he like runs material by U. E.. You get to hear all of his interesting points of view on every little topic under the Sun. And your besties. I think he would listen you think I think the I. Oh. and. That's horrible. Is this ego I've listen that is ego but I'm also smart enough to know which is why he respects me because I'm smart enough to know this that the situation you just laid out his impossible, you can't be. He especially can't be because he has such high integrity. He can't be that close with someone running material by them and not respect them. I have zero people in my life who are in my top with the I. In this hypothetical I created. That is the case. Okay. Well, they're like. More anyone he he'd be like, Monica who's WHO's the most fun to be around Monica? Respect you know. That's what that's how we go God. What does that mean or specter I like her? That's what's important. Question I'm breaking through more stuff than your therapist. I think I'd pick the second because he'd want me to pick the second and I gained respect. Worst thing. Okay. So I only have one fact for matthew. Okay. Good. 'cause we ate up all the time with a bunch of hypotheticals about Brad fucking your mom getting remarried. Your granddaddy. Grandma. fucking over my granddaddy masturbation. Maybe is racist we don't know. The Glass Breyer's unparalleled Oh. Yeah. Okay now we're here. Chapelle and my respect or live balance. Okay now, Laura me one fact it's who is the real little Mr Texas? Oh. Wow. Is it known listen I can't find it but I can find he was runner up yes alma and that's another thing I'd gain if I took over his life is out of been runner up. Beauty Patch. I didn't have a shot at that in my real life. You couldn't find the real life little miserable I saw list of the people, but it didn't say who is the winner her? And there were few people who are like my brother was in that pageant with math mikan nobody is claiming. Because the burgeoning about their advantage financial advantage, they're embarrassed man. I hope this leads to us finding out if you know the real winner of the Little Mr Texas is little Mr Tech that's right. So. Sorry. If you've you are the winner I mean to laugh at it nineteen seventy seven if you're the winner of nine, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, seven little Mr Texas pageant. And or you know one In better yet, if you're associated any way, you can put us in contact with them. Will interview them. I'll say that right now we'll do a fact check. Well we need photographic evidence and Shit. Not that you and I would know if it was faked or not I. Yeah. We're going to need some hardcore evidence. By Dave Chapelle. He'll know he can sniff out of fake second. He doesn't respect you all wanted to go on vacation ever takes his life with you. All right. Well, look we gotta get Dave Chapelle on here if for no other reason to. Settle this debate. He is my number one guest. That's a really good number one guest. Yeah Man I if if for me. Between, him and bill, Murray, that's a that's a real. That's that's a that's a tough one. That's Sophie's Choice I. get that. Oh I never really wrap this up quick. So he was on the letterman interview show that's on Netflix I. watched it last night. So I went to bed Dave Chapelle. Dave Chapelle and I went to bed thinking about him in my slumber no I was not horny for him. Running. But I did think. Wow. This person is an anomaly. Okay. Okay, and he is a gift to this earth. You think Oh. Well. You're you are teetering in the deity status well, no, I don't think. It's Of course I I. Don't mean that he doesn't WanNa be that he's makes that very clear. He doesn't WanNa be anyone's leader or anyone's anything comfy with it, but it's because of that. Aired migrants is against the Dalai Lama in here. Enough to start the timer play. Okay. Do that all right That's all. I love you.

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4/19/21: Matthew McConaughey may be a viable candidate for Texas governor and more news

The Dallas Morning News

05:10 min | Last month

4/19/21: Matthew McConaughey may be a viable candidate for Texas governor and more news

"This is the dallas morning news brought to you by the so-fi daily podcast. Did you know thirty. Seven percent of americans would struggle to cover unexpected four hundred dollar expense. April is national financial literacy month. Which means it's time to expand your financial knowledge and that all starts with having the right information for facts analysis and updates related to markets and financial awareness. Listen to the so-fi daily podcast every weekday search for so-fi wherever you get your podcasts. It's monday april. Nineteenth here are days headlines. It'll be mostly sunny today with a high of seventy four tonight. Expect partly cloudy skies and a low of fifty to our top story. Matthew mcconaughey commands more support to be taxes as next governor than incumbent greg abbott. That's according to a poll released yesterday by the dallas morning news in the university of texas at tyler however the film actor and political newcomer could hit potholes in either. Major party's primary if he enters next year's governor's race for months mcconaughey has teased political pundits and tv talk show hosts with musings that he might enter politics in his home state if he were to take the plunge and run for governor. The poll found that forty. Five percent of registered. Voters would vote for mcconnell. Hey thirty three percent would vote for. Abbott and twenty two percent would vote for someone else. Mcconnell as double digit lead over the two term. Republican incumbent is significant. Still fifty six percent of republican. Voters said they'd vote for abbott. While only thirty percent would vote for mcconnell. Hey in other political news insisting that the administration is standing by as mexican cartels. Terrorize south texas governor. Greg abbott has demanded that president joe biden add the crime groups to a list of terrorist organizations that includes our qaeda and the islamic state all of the attacks. Abbott cited in a letter to biden took place when donald trump was president and abbott never publicly pressured trump to designate the cartels as terrorist groups nor did abbott air any complaint when trump under pressure from mexico back down from a threat to add cartels to the foreign terrorist group list. The brutality of the cartels is not in doubt but the laser focus on biden suggests a degree of political theater and avid is hardly the only republican to cast him as weak on cartels. While glossing over the fact that trump never did what they now demand from the new president in education parents of two black students targeted in a slave trade on social media are demanding a change in the alito school districts culture. Mio she johnson and tamra lawrence spoke at thursday's board meeting and they described how their sons were auctioned off in a mock slave trade group created by their classmates over snapchat after not seeing immediate action to address such racially charged acts. The mothers told trustees they must act swiftly. Johnson said rest assured we our families and our sons who were being put this and now our community because of the stance that you all failed to take feel that you all failed them. And finally all anthony a dallas pastor known for his dog ed criticism of numerous tv preachers in their lavish. Lifestyles died friday at age. Eighty two anthony. Knee was president of the trinity foundation. A watchdog group founded by anthony and other christian leaders in hundred seventy two that monitors religious fraud. He worked with the foundation through the nineteen nineties and two thousands on investigations and lawsuits against televangelists. Including robert tilton. Benny hinn and jannine. And paul crouch in two thousand seven. Anthony also helped the senate finance committee during its investigation of nationwide televangelist abuses. The foundation continued to assist with the investigation through two thousand ten. A memorial service is scheduled for two pm on may first at community on columbia located at fifty six forty. Four columbia avenue. The dallas morning news is launching a new initiative state of the city. Over the next month's the news will explore important facets that shape the city and region covering the issues of public safety public education the economy healthcare social justice and housing and homelessness publisher. Grant moyes said. The state of the city project aims to leave residents feeling like informed citizens who understand dallas strengths and weaknesses learn more about the initiative at dallas news dot com. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to check out the dallas morning news rewards program for our virtual events for more info on upcoming events please visit rewards dot dallas news dot com. Enjoy your day. spoken layer.

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Episode 106: Matthew McConaughey

5 Questions with Dan Schawbel

09:59 min | 8 months ago

Episode 106: Matthew McConaughey

"Is Matthew McConaughey and you are listening to five questions with Dan schawbel, you're listening to the five questions podcast of I'm your host Dan schawbel and fewer than ten minutes. My goal is to extract the best advice in the world's smartest and most interesting people by asking them just by questions. My guest today is Academy Award winning actor Matthew McConaughey. You might know Matthews playlist actor that has appeared number 40 feature films that have grossed over 1 billion dollars like Dazed and Confused and the Dallas Buyers Club, but he's also a deep thinker family man and Professor after Decades of keeping a journal you captured much of his life experiences quotes and stories in his new book green lights, which we discuss in this podcast episode. How did journaling for thirty-five years help you better understand your life and career as you battled hardships and you had successes, you know, the beginning of my writing in my diary going to my journal. I went to my diary like off. People go to a diary you go to the diary when things are not going. Well when you're trying to figure stuff out when you're lost and you're looking for identity when you're trying to find your frequency, you know, so-and-so broke up with me. Why won't you know nothing about about a girl breaking my heart or something like that later in life. I notice in my twenties when I started to find myself and started to kind of rolling catching proverbial green lights and my relationships were going well, but a job I was making my grades things were kind of cooking. I remember at that time saying we'll make sure you keep writing in your Journal now McConaughey because I was intrigued with the idea that we're we're we're so off to have the habit of dissecting our failures, but hey, let's dissect our success is to let's take some notes right now while things are going well and see what those habits are. I had a hunch this would be true. But what became true is later on when I got another rut which obviously we'll do cuz we're never completely found. I was able to go back in those times. Look at those Diaries of times when I was succeeding wage. Look at what my habits were who was hanging out with where was I going? What was the what was I drinking? How much sleep would I get in? Excetera excetera? How was I looking at life houses are approaching things and I was able to recalibrate in the times that I was in a rut and would help me that sort of find my frequency again and and come out of it each time was different but I would find certain habits that I could take with me and was damn glad I had written him down in the book use the analogy that in the highway of life. We have like a yellow and green lights. How did your father's death eventually become a blessing for you turning from a red to a green light. There were things that he taught me and raised me and values that he instilled in me, but you know, I'm not necessarily putting them into practice making them habits in mind in granting them in my psyche and in my in my gut I guess partially because I knew I I still had him he I could rely on him. He was above wage law and government and if I really needed him he was there so to some extent I was living out eighty-five. I was making babies in the values that he had taught me. I was I was still Peter Pan around with my van dead. Is and who I was because hey I can rely on my dad. He still here well him moving on I immediately use the term sobered up in and I mean it by whoa, I better man up here. I got to become a man. I gotta have the courage to start in acting who I am. I don't have that safety net. I don't have that crutch of my father anymore. I remember a carved this into a tree it was two weeks after he had passed away about a month maybe am impressed more involved and his passing is where that came from and what I mean by this is I've noticed that or things mortal things in the world that I revered people that I revered fame money different more success that were moral but I had reverence four and almost intimidated by they were other than intimidated looked up to them and I was like, no you can respect those things, but I'm not not going to reveal money more. So what I was looking up at more things I was reviewing came down to eye level on the flip side of that things that I was looking down upon people. I was patronising situations out was condescending wage. Rose up to eye level and the world was flat. I could see further I could see wider and I could see more clearly and my heart came up in my head came up and I said you better look in the eye. Matthew wage is not here anymore. Pops not hear you don't have that behind you. It's time for you to man up and become a man and that was one of the great green lights that his passing gave me and I don't know that I'd be sitting here talking to you right off about a book with the career. I have and life if my dad hadn't passed away. I don't know would have done something else. But I maybe I would have waited longer to really step up and seek my own identity and find my own frequency and take risk took em more risk after my father moved on got more courageous to be try and be and figure out who the heck of was and what I wanted to do you talk a lot about self-awareness in the book and I love and agree with what you said, which is the first time knowing who you are is knowing who you're not how did he use the process of elimination to discover yourself and choose the right career path. I know they thought I was going to be a lawyer went to the University of Texas with the idea that I'm going to age. becoming defense attorney and it was around the sophomore year coming around exam time and I hadn't really been sleeping well the idea of becoming a lawyer the idea that I need a couple more years to graduate then I need to go back to school and need to find a job that I would wouldn't be able to put an imprint in the world and execute something until as my thirties basically knows like I don't really I'm not sleeping with the idea that I will spend my entire 20s preparing for something I don't want to have this Whole Decade being preparation and I've been writing at the time these Diaries I've been writing short stories I had shared him with a A friend of mine who gave me validation page these are creative and good and it was also a friend who was saying and and you know what math you might want to you know try and get in front of the camera you got good character and you know what I mean you have the compass to be yourself in front of the camera took that out to oh my God no no no I wouldn't do that you know too much of an avant-garde idea when my mind well around that time final exam sophomore year now moving into June You're where you better be specific about what credits you're taking because now you could waste some if you want to change your career path of your major after your junior year I decided I wanted to go to film school got the cam to say I want to go to film school now. It was about calling my dad and telling him that which was a very nerve-wracking thing. I thought he was going to go you want to do what boy that's not a real job, you know you I was raised you work your way up a company that either you know, you you put it in that's what my dad did that's what he knew and here I'm going to his son going to be calling the man who's paying for my education to say I want to go into the Arts not think it was going to go well, so I call him and not everybody what's going on. I said pop need talked about somebody said sure what I said. I don't want to go to law school anymore. I want to I want to go to film school. There's a pause on the other line he goes. Well, you sure that's what you want to do. I said, yes sir. There was another long pause then I heard these three words that just not only gave me approval gave me a shot in the back side and just catapulted me board and the three words were this don't have facet and I was like, yep. I was I remember just going into tears that my father gave me that power gave me more than privileged. He gave me freedom to go after it and people around the world as you know are suffering from stress anxiety and depression right now, especially during coping you mentioned prescribes in the book what prescribes you have to help others manage difficult situations and improve their mental health right now should start with this one. Once you know, it's black. It ain't nearest dark. These are black X Kobe black diamonds. Let's admit that looked at in the I do not waste what I call thirty percent of our energy wasted on a dissipation anxiety meaning like when we sit there and go. Oh maybe tomorrow Copa jumper maybe tomorrow things will be back to normal and we wake up tomorrow morning and it's not but then tomorrow night we go to bed go know maybe tomorrow maybe tomorrow night. We wake up the next day and it's not if you do that these little Peaks and valleys you you're wasting it about 30% as far as I can tell if your energy and anticipation that maybe tomorrow things will be better and we'll all be over. No. I actually prescribed going. Other way start trying to think about like maybe we're doing this for the next three years five years ten years for life. Now does it mean you go into Doomsday? Well what it does mean is on your even on a cellular level your survival survival mechanisms come up and you start to reserve your energy for the Long Haul the turtle will beat the hair and you're in it and you're navigating the day and things don't stress you out as much cuz you're not as Twitchy on this page get more rest conserving energy. I'm in it for the long haul and then what will probably happen is we'll open up back again will turn the page as a society in the world and re-engage in a capacity and we'll go off we're ready. Now. I was ready to go for another five years. I was reading hi. I was ready to go for another ten years and it's it'll be a gift when it comes to us. And I know you don't consider yourself a preacher and this is not supposed to be a ninja Facebook. What is your best piece of career advice? Don't act like one be one whatever it is you're doing it goes along with that less impressed more involved, you know if you have a surge. The overstated reverence for me or I haven't overstated reverence for you in this conversation if I have an old state of reverence for you. I can't be involved in this conversation. Not totally I can connect the dots and kind of say the wrong things kind of what I meant, but I'm not really involved in it. I'm not president because I'm going so in our jobs don't go play the part if we're fortunate enough to do something that you have an innate ability to do and you're willing to hustle and work for it took like go be one. Whatever that job did go be whatever that in the process go be that don't sit on the sidelines and then go. Well, I'm going to come and act like one here from then I'm going to do my job. Yep. Connect all the dots that's passing grade. Okay. I'm out don't have that one be one. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom. Matthew to follow his journey can read his book green lights and find him on Instagram Twitter and Facebook where he shares his journal entries announcements appearances and pictures from his movies.

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Money and Life Lessons with Matthew McConaughey

The Rachel Cruze Show

41:02 min | 3 months ago

Money and Life Lessons with Matthew McConaughey

"Learn to talk about money because it is a shame filled subject and when you can say things into the light that shamed goes away but press in talking about it so so good. Hey everyone welcome to another episode of the rachel. Cruze show podcast. I'm so glad that you're here. Okay this episode guys. I interview someone. I'll give you one hint all right all right. all right. that's right. It's mr matthew. Mcconaughey is on his new book. Green lights i love so much and so the fact that he was a guest on the show. I cannot wait for you to hear our interview. We talk about money. We talk about family all of it. It is such a great interview. I can't wait for you to hear. I also answer a question from jared who is struggling because his wife has had multiple jobs this year and it seems like she can't stay motivated when it comes to winning money so we're gonna talk through that because as we all know spouses work on the same page so so crucial but first. Let's dive into a topic. Five money mistakes that are destroying your finances. Take a listen all right. There are five things that you need to avoid absolutely void in order to be successful when it comes to money actually. It's probably more than five. Live but we're gonna talk about five year because in all my years of living and breathing personal finance. I have found that these five really can ruin people financially. They still your financial future. They caused you be stressed out and anxious. Oh it's not good so let's talk through the five money mistakes that are destroying your finances. All right number one credit cards. Yes rachel cruze is not like credit cards. I know it's a shock but listen credit cards. It's the one money mistake at pro entire less people just justify over and over so rather whether it's the rewards or the airline miles or the points or zero percent interest. Everyone always has a thing. We'll ritual. This is what i'm going to use it for. I'm doing it because of this. Okay live in two thousand twenty. The average credit card interest rate was sixteen point. Four three percents. 'cause that's insane insane. The average family paid one thousand one hundred fifty five dollars in just credit card. Interest alone. Thousand dollars was bye. See ya. i mean it's so frustrating because number one when you use a credit card you are spending more studies have shown anywhere from ten to thirty percent more when your credit card. Why because emotionally mentally. You can just check out. It doesn't even feel like your money so like oh yeah just a little bit more here a little bit more here you just end up justifying it all the way and it feels like oh. It's fine while venue end up with credit card debt and paying interest on something that you bought a month ago or two months ago or three months ago so you spend more and also the rationale okay. Well i'm just doing it again. For all the point systems okay the billions of airline miles go and use every year and all those points in those rewards and the cashback all of that. You're getting it's not because the credit card companies just think. Oh we just really are loving people and we're going to serve you and rewards you for spending all this money. They're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart. They're doing it because they're making a crap ton of money off of interests of other people and other people that are probably struggling financially and turning to credit card singing it's their only way out and because of them but they can't pay credit card bill and they are paying interest making the credit card companies and banks more money in. They're able to give you money. So you're actually getting rewards. Because other people are mismanaging their money will not fun. So i just don't want to be a part of the toxic bunny culture in that industry at all. I don't want to be part of them at all so for me. I use a debit card. A debit card will do everything. Credit card will do except get you into debts. So you're not going to be in debt when using his card but you can shop online. You can book hotels. you actually can poke rental car. Companies Dollar rental car. There are companies that weren't you just mentioned cars when tonight all the time rent cars and we're but a debit card is key all right number two car payments the average car payments for a new car gary for this five hundred fifty four dollars average for used cars three hundred ninety one dollars so this is tough for me the car loan mathematically speaking like take all the emotion out of it just mathematically speaking is probably the dumbest debt that you could get him. Because you're going into debt for something that's going down in value. So when you get a mortgage for instance. Which is the one type of debt when i yell at you for your a house and a majority of cases over a long time. That house will go up in value when you drive a car of a car lot you lose tens of thousands dollars which is gone. It's unbelievable but you're borrowing money paying interest on something that's losing value. Oh i hate it so much. I do so. Listen you can keep having that car payment if you really want it. Or let's say you took that three hundred and ninety one. Dr car payment for your used car and invested it for thirty years at eleven percent return. Do you know you can retire with nearly one point one million dollars a million bucks instead of pay a car payment you invest it and you get a million dollars into its million dollars. I really cool new car. You can do a lot with a million dollars a province but you can actually buy with cash safe reliable used cars and once you have a net worth of a million dollars you can go buy a brand new car because you can take the financial hit of driving up the law and it losing value but again recommending reliable used cars. So i'm gonna put a link into description because we talk more about that. Because i want you to live like no one else so later you can live and give and drive like no one else number three and other mistake people make is ruining finances is not budgeting in our survey of american finances conducted here at ramsey solutions only fifty percent of respondents had done a budget in the last year. Listen if you're not budgeting you're not controlling your money in fact you're probably wasting a lot of money when you can be diligent and say okay. I'm going to tell everydollar where to go. Even if it's mundane okay. I'll saw no one of our friends about this like two weeks ago. And he said. I just work really hard and i don't want to look at every single dollar spend. It's just it's just not worth it. Pan man like no matter the income you make no matter the expense you make you guys no matter what. You need to be budgeting now. Once you're on baby steps seven if you wanna loosen the strings make bigger bulks in your budget and not you know every single amazon. May everything's lumped together. You can be a little bit more. Okay yeah about sure if you once. I guess but you need to be intentional. Like you need to be able to say okay. This is a big part of our money that we're spending on this month. This is the amount we're going to spend an honor here this all. You need to be intentional. Because in the same survey budgeters went. Who our budgeting are more likely that they're better off financially than they were a year ago because they have a plan because they're living on purpose number four whole life insurance to okay is known as the type of permanent life insurance. Means you have in place for your entire life which i understand kinda sounds nice like life insurance forever but listen if you're working plan your out of debt and you're investing and your home is paid for on baby steps sex and you start. You know doing everything. You're gonna be self insured eventually so the idea of having life insurance for your entire life is unnecessary now for whole life insurance and the beginning you in the insurance company will decide your policy amounts and what they call the death benefits so this is the some that will be paid at your loved ones or your beneficiaries when you die when you pay your premium which is really expensive. One chunk of it goes to the policy. The other chunk is applied to what's called a cash value accounts which is like an investment but at a really crappy interest rate. The rate of return really. Well it's not good. It's not a good investments and so there's all kinds of stipulations. Like if you died too soon if you don't die soon enough the company gets to keep the cash value count and your family never sees that you're putting money in an investment if you die. Don't die soon enough or something happens. It's gone crazy. I mean no no. No no no no not be true and so what you have to remember. Is that your life insurance and your investments need to be separates. They need to be separate insurances over here and your investments is in a totally different space. K- keep them separate. So what are you what do you do if you have whole life insurance. Well you go to term life insurance. It is ten times cheaper than any whole life insurance policy that you're going to see out there and you can buy life insurance for a specific amount of time just like twenty years or thirty years you get a policy that pays out ten to twelve times for annual and coming coverage and as you guys know. I recommend zander term life. Insurance zander saves you the time because they shop all the rates for you and they save you money by presenting you the best value for your unique situations. Make sure to get in touch with zander. Zander dot com. All right last but not least the last mistake that people make is not talking about money. Listen i know it can be awkward if you're not used to it. It can't be a weird conversation and it's like oh i don't even know how to engage it. I don't know if you're going to stumble. You're gonna make mistakes but press in talk about it. Conversations around money are so valuable specifically for married. And if you're not having someone in your life you can talk to about this. Ninety nine percent of millionaire said that they have a long term plan for their money. If you want to be successful you have to think okay. What are the things. I'm doing for the long-term setting goals and if you're married setting goals to gather bond guys unites you guys when you were working towards the same goal but in order to do that you have to talk about money if you have kids talk to them about work about giving saving and spending and generosity and contentment. Talk about the stuff. You don't have to say okay. Here's how much money we make. I'm not saying tactically all the time but say. Hey let's have a conversation with what money is what. What role does money play in our lives. Have this conversation with people in your life. You guys learn to talk about money because it is a shamed filled subject and when you can say things into the light that shame goes away because most people struggle with the same things you struggle with so talking about it. So so good. I hope i helped you understand how to avoid so many of these money. Mistakes are costing people so much in the long-term so guys. You can do this to make all these mistakes. You can make changes in your life as of today. Easter is a big deal for our family. We love it. So whether it's the traditions of eastern kant the easter baskets they get on sunday morning. It's also fun but also we try to be really intentional with teach your kids. What easter really is all about. And that is why. I love mino- it's a christian streaming service created just for kids so there are so many easter episodes that talk about the easter story. And there's even an easter family devotional and minot gives me all the tools. I need to help answer my kids questions and talk to them about the good news so celebrate the easter story and a new way with your family and download the minnow app or visit. Geico dot com. That's g. o. M. i. n. o. Dot com and interracial at checkout to get your first month for free. I'm so excited because we have a guest on that. If you told me like three months ago that he was going to be guest. Thought you're crazy but it's academy award winner and now new york times bestselling author matthew mcconaughey matthew. Welcome to the show here. Thanks for van here. Okay we were just talking about four started but the book your news but green lives. It is so so good. I mean i read it in two days. I couldn't put it down. And i was reading it at night too and i just started laughing through half of it and my husband was like what are you laughing at and i would just like. Read these excerpts goes like this is the funniest thing ever. But i wanna know so. What caused you to read it or i'm sorry to write it because those of you that haven't read it all the viewers watching probably want to know what it's about and why decide rydah well. I've been keeping journals since. I was fourteen years old so for thirty seven years now thirty five. When i started writing books and for the past fifteen years. I've been threatening like. Oh god go away with all those journals and see if there's something worth sharing but it didn't have the courage to do it finally a couple of years ago. I was like you know what you just keep passing the buck mcconnell. You keep put it off thinking my thought was oh no when you die camilla my wife can maybe look through there. There's something worth sharing she'll share. Which was a cop out. So finally i said and with our help. Hey let's get outta here and just go off with those journals somewhere for few weeks alone and see what you got and i went away and Found stories. People plays his prescriptions poems prayers and a whole lot of bumper stickers and there are stacks of these eighteen seven or eight themes and then through those categories. I found this theme of green lights Found ways that i'd engineered green lights in my life. Green lights being freedom in the future. they say go they proceed. Carry on your way. We like green light in our life. You know I also saw red yellow my life Death of my father. Red light does hardships crisis. Yellow lights moments of pause moments of tragedy moments of crisis. And i found that. Ots read yellows. Even though i didn't want him they heard at the time they revealed to have green light assets in the future. They had lessons for me to learn in the future. So you know the red yellow is. We don't want them but we sometimes need them and I also found a certain way that i approach things. Sometimes successfully sometimes unsuccessfully that helped me create more green lights in my life. And god. I wrote about well i can tell you from. A girl nashville. Who obviously just knows you as the actor. When i heard people reading your book that you have to read this book. And i was like okay so when i finally picked it up and read it was like i mean i had no clue number one your story. I didn't even really know your marital status. I didn't know much about your personal life. Just really your movie so it was so refreshing just to kind of dig into the human part of you and who you are and the wisdom and the life that you bring which i just love so much and so on the show we talk about life. We talk about money but a lot of people viewing it our moms. They're working outside the home and religious trying to create a better life for themselves and so one of the things we talk about on the show allies. That moore is caught than taught as parents or kids are watching us. Our example is so huge in every part of our lives. So i want to know from you. What are a couple of things that you caught on from your parents and are you read a lot about it in the book. Some lessons in life that you took with you an adult that you learn from your parents and what are things you hope. Your kids are catching from you. Always been asked like coming about the love that you and your family had grown up. And i always tell these stories of win. We were disciplined. Which sometimes are there. They seem to be horrific stories because they involved the belt. Or what have you. But what my parents were trying to distill it whether you agree with the means what they were doing it or not was extremely valuable. I got my first open for not answering my name. My second worker. Saying i hate you to my brother. My third room for saying. I can't start the lawnmower and my fourth for lion and the values that they were instilling in that or fill pretty obvious. Then oh these are life lessons. They want relearn. So what's the antonyms of those Don't hate love. Don't say can't believe he can't but understand that you can be having trouble getting something done until the truth ally. Three great valuable lessons to send a child into the world with that helped makeup who they are. Now go about trying to teach my children. Those in different ways than my mom and dad did but i still inherently really want them to understand those things and have those be a part of their life and understand the importance of of those You know the stuff that was caught see and how you could not hold a grudge in our family. Even my mom and dad and they had some fights that would be considered violent. The love was never questioned. The love was never in question. It was never going to be broken so the love is never in question. We heard a lot in our in our family. I love you. i just don't like right now. Glatt classic line right. I think we've all used that. And what i like about all of that though is it's it's focusing with your kids on the character side and i feel like and twenty twenty one right now with americans and the way not only they handle their money but even her family stuff and materialism is now become the priority. I mean that's what. Can i get my kids. What can i buy. What can i get them. And it almost has trumped the character qualities of what you instilling kids. So that when they go off on their own that can hold around so when it comes to all of that. I mean you became a minimalist. Basically you know throughout your book. I read that. And i love that because i love that whole idea of just kinda strip everything away and say okay this is. This is the life we're living and not focusing on all the materialism but a lot of people think well. If i just had more stuff if i just had more money if i just had more success i would be happy but would you say to that person book. I mean some people aren't gonna want to hear this out there. But we have to admit that retailed therapies. Not the answer. We have to admit that moving to the bigger house and nothing wrong with the bigger house. I got nothing wrong with buying those things. Got nothing wrong with fame. Nothing wrong with being with money and be rich off fan of those things but their tools and they're actually supplementation sometimes they. They don't really affect our happiness. As much as we think they're going to And traveled the world. I've seen poor considered poor families without electricity who were sustaining living off. What they had planted in the garden yesterday to to eighty today. Or what have you that. Were much more happy than billionaires. I've been around. That had more toys. Then everything else. Now were those times for me. Because i live in a flow of fluid life. We've got a nice house. My pantries full Our kids go to school etc. But at the very least i know when i go off on those minimum trips i have a greater respect for the things that i have now in my life. Yeah johnny teach our kids to go seek. Let's go without to then come back and see what. Maybe we were taken for. Granted to have gratitude for Alcon and those things You know if it's all retail therapy has just about having more more more more were kind of hamsters on the wheel. I mean we're we're we're going. It doesn't doesn't it doesn't fulfill as we think it will powerful to hear from you honestly though because i always talk about how. It's okay to have nice stuff just all your stuff have you and when it starts to own you in so many aspects so hard and and you could have you know. I mean you're matthew mcconaughey is like hearing that though out of your mouth. Yes that's the truth like that is what it is and we live in a culture that we chasing chasing chasing chasing finish line. Just will keep moving if that's where you're trying to put your happiness and your identity. Well what do we chase in. We all want to be relative but we need we forget. Ask ourselves relative for what might mother-in-law's a great phrase which is like what you said a minute ago. She says sometimes we have etc sometimes etc has us mats. It can have us. It can be wagging us and you look around and you're going like man. I'm i'm i'm trying to attend to these hundred things. I really don't care. We'll maybe get rid of some things. Say i i write about my book about when i said no one shut down their production company and the music company. I said i feel like. I'm making sees in five things in my life and i want to get rid of two so i feel like i could maybe make as in three that you can know. How long have you guys been married now. Eight years okay. So money and marriage. It's a big discussion. Money fights money problems. i mean. it's a big part of marriage so for you guys when it comes to money do you guys make money decisions together. Do you have conversations about it. Like what does it look like and the mcconaughey household. We both come from pretty humble beginnings. She comes from his uniform girl from bello horizonte brazil. I'm a middle class blue collar orphee valdez texas. So we both very much have a great respect for the dollar. Neither one of us pass opinion. Don't pick it up to this day when it comes to you know money We discuss the the larger stuff we And does that a want or need was makes this safe. It's a need. I want to be more than more than just a want We've been just as happy. Living in my airstream on the road with the kids have been in our house. That doesn't mean. I want to get rid of the house but question. We were just as apple. You could argue sometimes even happier. 'cause we would just on top of each other you know We make choices we. Don't we make choices where we go. What's not going to change our quality of life. You know a cumulated enough wealth to go. Okay i live this lifestyle. When does that the extravagant. I went out there and i wanna live it where i don't you know i'm still excited about going and building up. My car was super unleaded and going bill it up. It wasn't that long ago. I was like on regular unleaded. Gone steed half a tank. I don't have let me check the cache so you know. I don't sweat those things or you know it's fun to go down to supermarket. Go down every aisle every single. I'll go needier. We're going fill our pantries fun to be able to do that number. One the fact you guys even talk about money is huge. And i think it's a good example for people because some people they don't they run on separate tracks and you even saying we a lot of married couples deal with their money completely separate and one of the things. I always try to encourage them as work together as a team when it comes to money and so hearing even saying we versus her. I mean those. Those things are so so key. I think in creating a wholesome marriage and mindsets. Thanks for letting me kind of dig into that okay. So one one line. You used a couple of times in the book that i loved and i want you to explain it to. The viewers is less impressed. More involved and i underlined it and flapped a couple of pages with ex. I thought that is so good. So explain explain what that means. Yeah so there's things that we have reverence for fame money people places in our future attainable. Maybe not attainable. But we have reverence for now. Were so impressed with them that when we're faced with them we're not able to be actually involved with them that woman or that man that we put on such a pedestal that when together not actually able to be ourselves and give of ourselves because we have them up on such a pedestal and it's not only unfair ourselves. It's unfair to them. They put up to. If you're if i if i think camilla is wonder woman and she thinks i'm mr incredible. Neither one of us can have up to that. It's unfair to each each other. Now we can should have great respect for each other. An athlete intricate pulled out of the bullpen. Ninth-inning world series. He's very he's dreamed of this moment but if he's so impressed with this moment and not involved with how. I'm going to get the next three guys out of the plate. He's not going to have a good outing because he's not going to actually be present he won't be involved in. He'll have too much reference for the moment will be bigger than him. Keep the respect for it but when it's if you're faced with it be able to look at the i. Ango on our earned the right to be here. I am here live. I'm in this. I'm going to give up myself of my true self and be able to receive hopefully this moment or person's true self back. Be less impressed more involved. I love that so so good while there. There are a couple of quotes down. I'm not gonna sam all but kind of this principles. So tell me if i'm wrong. If i translated it in my head differently you had a couple of principles in the book that came to choice. And that if you think you can or you think you can't right and you reap what you sow as idea of planting things on the surface right like going in and doing the hard work. Would you say you agree overall with that principle and what does that look like in your life and people watching that really you have choices in your life and making those choices can better your life or set you back. Well that's inherently one of the themes of from green lights weaken engineer. Green lies in our future of the choices we make today. You know we. We like to make a contradiction and think that responsibility and freedom are like sometimes opposition. Not that actually completely entwined we can be. We are responsible for free. We can take responsibility today. That grant us more freedom in the future. Give us more green lights in the future. If i'm going to you know see you. And and and when you get up outta the chair and united roman i and i you left your purse there and steal your wallet. Well i maybe immediately got cash needed but have i really bought myself a green light and the future no because now every time i'm in rachel city everywhere i go. I'm looking over the shoulder. My shoulder going hope ratios not here because you've probably noticed that her i was gone now created stress in my life. I bought my free time in the future. I created less freedom for me in the future. So it's a lot about delayed gratification. The choices we make today are compounding assets in our future and to be able to see further down the line and see how the choices we make responsibilities. We choose to take or don't take have consequences check in with yourself. Five who yourself is five years from now ten years from now and have a look back when you're struggle with the choice. Go myself ten years. Nothing about this house it. A land is going to be something promotes more growth in health. And truth for me my loved ones or less you know just know that. That's compounding assets. We can engineer During this also say this though funding about the green light. The art of the catching the green light is. What do you do at the yellow. The caution right. yeah sometimes. A yellow lights air force. Because you know what we need to slow down. We need a red light. We need to pause. Take some introspective introspection. Check in with ourselves. We need that intervention. We need that boss sometimes though catching green lies about approaching that yellow light going. I ain't given that crisis credit. I'm putting the pedal to the metal and blowing right through this light. You know what i mean because sometimes we slow down at too many yellow lights and we're making mountains out of molehills and been dwelling in our red light. Oh oh be mayo. You creating crisis where. Maybe you should just blown by that. I didn't get that credit. Put the pedal down through that one other times. It's like no no needed any heat this yellow and he just slow down. Take a balls. Yeah back to what you were saying earlier. Though mike you have to be present enough in your life and your situation and your relationships to know and the yellow light to discern do i speed opera joy. Slow down right. It's a to beware to be in your life in your life and aware which is so great. Understand what you really value. Yes what you really value. And those that list of things. We value our life in what order. They're in those change in our life. Different for young men women before they have a family. The value the value meter changes it. Did things take their priorities as we grow through life. And that's fine but you know ask yourself. What is it that. I really value that. I'm growing here my life so god so so much wisdom and seriously. It's all the book guys. Green lights by matthew mcconaughey. Okay can i ask you one like semi people magazine question since i have you okay out of all your movies. Massey wets like the one that you look back on. That was the most fun to shoot like onset with the people the storyline the character of it. And you're like yes. That was really fun. I gotta go back to my very first one days confused. I written lines in that ended up working three weeks though. I'm coming to set in the summer of ninety. Two austin texas and it was one of the greatest summer of my life and i did not know that time if that was a one-off hobby if that was going to be one thing i did that summer ninety two and then i went off and did something else in my life and here it is twenty nine years later and it's turned into a career that i love offer started off in one summer summer night in austin texas nine thousand nine hundred okay to order for all that to happen though you would say that. There's a level of of confidence awareness that you you kind of charged in there like you. You had some your proactive in this situation right. So there's a lesson for that for people like yeah when you engage a situation here gonna look a whole lot different than if you kinda just sit back and let things happen to you i was. I was incredibly impressed to be there. But i realized in right then oh you better be involved. Oh i'm saying we have to be more than just happy to be here when we're in a moment or that that's of good fortune or something goes well. We have to be more than. I'm all gratitude. But gratitude does not mean a false modesty or a not giving yourself enough credit to go no. Let's get in this. let's get. Let's look the situation in the eye and do what i need to do. And focus on what it is. I need to do so yeah. I've had some in the right place right time but also take into opportunities when they when they showed up for sure for sure taken initiative. I love it. Well matthew thank you honestly so much for stopping by railing really was an honor and again everyone screw lives such a good books so so good so guys pick it up anywhere. Books are sold and thanks again matthew. I appreciate it thank you. This episode went to answer a one of your questions or talk about how to get on the same page with your spouse which is a question. A lot of people have so this comes from jared and he said my wife and i are baby. Step two. I actually doubled up our emergency fund recently because my wife hasn't been able to keep a job every time i get motivated and start to get on board. Something happens where she loses her job. She's had seven jobs within the last year. She's about to start a new job. But i'm nervous because if i get sick or hurt will be okay for a little bit. And then i don't know. How do i get my wife more on board. We have paid off some of our debt and have about seventeen thousand dollars left. Well number one. Congratulations on paying down some of your debt. That's amazing and that seventeen thousand. It's like right there like you. You can still trek forward and get that done for sure. Now my question would be jared hedge funds mace. We can have a conversation about it. But i don't know how much your wife is on board on getting out of debt or budgeting or what part of that but it sounds more like the issues her keeping her job so i would ask the question. Okay why why does she keep losing. Her job is at her like she's doing as the industry that she's in. Is that the types of companies choosing to work for and they're closing their doors like i'm curious why she can't keep that job because again. It's an industry problem. Then maybe you say okay. Let's just shift industries. Let's go look and see if i can do something else on the side for a little bit while we get out of debt and kind of make sacrifices so we can have that solid financial foundation or if it's something that she's doing if it's her problem digging into that understanding because money flows two ways it flows in and it flows out so you can cut your lifestyle back as much as possible but also that income coming in is going to help you get that traction and so again her having that job that you guys are used to having that income. It's really important for her to have unless you just kind of restructure and maybe she does stay home if you have kids. That's really what she wants. And so for this time. Maybe you ju just live off of your income and you have to reprioritize and figure it out some. That'd be the main thing but for other people that are struggling to get spouse onboard. You have to understand that you know we all have different tendencies. We all have different money personalities. So naturally one of you is going to be like hard-driving loving the idea of getting out of debt live on a budget like it's like up your alley you feel the traction you see this success and unusually another spouse who it's like. I'm not as passionate about that. So you're going to have these kind of different personalities which is very very normal but the key here is that neither one of you or just sitting back and just spectating and watching everything play out but directly involved. Both of you not one of you might be way more intensely involved because you love it. You're looking numbers. Every night in the other one is involved may not always be as passionate or love it as much as the other spouse and that's okay so there's going to be degrees on how much passion you have in this process so some people are like my wife's on board but we're budgeting the getting together but she doesn't want to look at my accel sheet every night might came. She's onboard come on. Let's give her a little grace now. Other people are fully not on board. Like you are running on two separate tracks. So that's the case and you're trying to get out of debt but your spouse keeps racking up credit card debts. That's going to be a problem so having communication around your why. This is a big first step. Why do you want financial stability. Is it out of security purposes. You want to know that you're gonna be okay if something were to happen to you. Jared sounds like you or is it more. I want to get out of debt. So that i can finally sleep at night or i want my kids to grow up in household where they can understand how money works and they don't have to make the mistakes that we made or doing this so that we can take that yearly vacation. We wanna take every year with our family. Do it with cash. Like what's your y figure out your. Why and then communicate that to spouse because again it's not just is wanna get a bunch of money and pile much stuff because if that's the case you go into debt and paul bunch of stuff but why is it that you want this freedom. Why is it that you want to be out of debt and you wanna be intentional. That wise really big and then i always tell spouses usually husband's not on board to tell the wife show him practically. Here's what this looks. Like listing out all of that small slower just on a sheet of paper and doing the math. And say okay. We put x. amount towards this debt. We can have it paid off and two months and then if we take all that money and do by the by the next smallest debt we can have paid off in six months like having goals and seeing it visually so helpful versus idea of okay. Let's just never go out to eat and never go on vacation. That doesn't sound like unplanned for has to be a reward on the back end. In fact charles do talks about this that when you change your money habits you have to have a reward and incentive on the other side so whether it's seeing that checking account or that savings account click up like yes. Yes our our savings are emergency fund and that feels good reward to you. Maybe another type award. I don't know but to say together. Okay we're gonna reach these goals. We're gonna work work towards something so that my reward financial freedoms ability piece. All of that is fulfilled. So that's kind of what i would say again. This is a hard thing you guys relationships can be so messy you all come from different backgrounds. You've you money kind of differently. You ought different habits different tendencies but learning to work together as a team empathizing and respecting each other. Please i just see so many spouses. Nature is throw their husband is the best or the or the husband just keeps nagging. The wife all the mistakes as and how much she spends. I mean home. I gonna take a deep breath in realize okay. How do we communicate effectively and lovingly. Because you are a team. You are a team in money to get in the middle of so many people so many spouses except for here in europe fighting said it across the room in like lock arms. Say okay. we're fighting this thing together. These we are team is not me you. It's against that. Make that the bad guy even though money same moral it's not good or bad but for this instance can be bad and say no. We're going after you. That debts were getting you out but making it a team. Effort is one of the best things you can do. Because what's beautiful about this. Is that bleeds over into other areas of your life when you can do this with your money you actually learn how to communicate. Well so when in-law situations come up you actually can communicate respectfully about it when you're raising kids and one of them disciplines them. We don't like young okay. Let's talk about that. I want to know about that. I mean you end up using all these skills in every aspect of your marriage so it's a great thing and it's a great thing to be unified on and again winning financially in the long term is not really gonna happen on your on two separate tracks but coming together and agreeing on your money and being unified so important and one way to do that is to sign up for ramsey plus this is a subscription model in is amazing because inside of ramsey plus you get financial peace university. You get no yourself now your money video course all of the courses we've done you get content in there you get community in there every hour plus get the baby steps tracker you can have the same your as your spouse you guys can go together and like look and see and see your progress and it really is a great tool to walk with you guys through this journey of learning how to get on the same page when it comes to money so don't miss out on that check it out because it really is so helpful is helpful for anyone but especially for married. You're trying to get that spouse onboard. Hopefully this tool can help. All right. jared. I hope that helps you because oh guys i mean we have multiple episodes about money and marriage but it really is a huge huge topic and getting on that same page being unified and knowing where you're going to gather with your money it is so crucial. I wanna thank matthew mcconaughey for coming on and being a fantastic guests and if you guys have not hit that subscribe button. Make sure you do that. And if the spirit leads you can leave a review all right. Thanks for listening to this episode and remember to always take control of your money and create a life you love so if you guys enjoyed this podcast. We have more from the ramsey network. Like the king coleman show. According to a recent gallup poll nearly seventy percent of americans are disengaged at work if you dread going into work every monday morning. And you're just trying to make it to the weekend. The ken coleman show is for you. Everyone has a sweet spot. Your sweet spot is at the intersection of your greatest talent and greatest passion. We will help you discover what it is you were born to do. And then we'll help you create a plan to make your dream job a reality you matter and you have what it takes. Join the conversation on the ken. 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Matthew McConaughey (2020)

"Guys willie geist here with another episode of the sunday sitdown. Podcasts my thanks as always clicking and listening along got a truly great one for not that they're all but a truly great one this week with oscar winner. Matthew mcconaughey not love mcconnell. Hey we i fell in love with the guy back in nineteen ninety-three when he played woodson in the movie dazed and confused remember. He was the guy who still hanging out with the high school kids in town kind of a local legend. Who uttered the phrase. Alright alright. Alright did you know those three words were the first line ever delivered by matthew mcconaughey in it was his first acting job and that was his first line from there. He went on three years later to start a time to kill opposite sandra bullock. That's when he really became a movie star then went through the two thousands. As this bankable romantic comedy guy. Doing movies with kate hudson j. Lo and how. Long list of romantic comedies. And then two thousand eight just goes dark. He was offered at one point. You'll hear him talk about it. Fourteen and a half million dollars to do another romantic comedy and he said no. That's how serious he was about kind of turning things in a new direction in his career so he goes away for twenty months. Almost two years comes back and just takes dramatic roles culminating in dallas buyers club for which he won the oscar for best actor. Of course he did true. Detective which amazing. Hbo series and so much more since then and now he's out with this book called green lights. It is the story of his life. He went back and looked the diaries. He has kept for thirty five or thirty six years since he was fourteen years old fifty now but last year he took all those. Diaries went to a cabin with no electricity in the middle of nowhere and read through them in realized. There are some good stories in here. I should put them in a book. Because i think a lot of people can relate to them most of us met matthew mcconaughey as a movie star. But there's a lot of life for him before he got into the business. Amazing truly like eye-popping some of them shocking stories in the book about his childhood and growing up in south west texas. You've all day. Texas including some scenes in his home of violence between his parents violence toward him and we have kind of a a deep conversation about what he took away from that and what it means to him so much to talk about with matthew mcconaughey around his new book called green lights right now on the sunday. Sit down podcast matthew. Thanks for doing this man appreciate it. You're welcome to be here in. Congratulations on the book. I have spent the last two days in it. Can't put down and there's some things to talk about it here. But i think mostly my big takeaways people perceive you as this guy who kind of glides through life dances between the raindrops movie star. But there man is so much more to it when you read read in here. So why did you want to commit all this to a book because there are no punches. Poll that's all in here. Yeah i do dance between the raindrops and come out dry. Many i also dancers in the raindrops in come out soaking wet. There's life that's all the fun of it so or the adventure of it. At least i think he'd be diaries for thirty. Six years threatening to go revisit. Those diaries for the last fifteen wondering if there may be wordsworth sharing in there and then it wasn't until two and a half three years ago that i got the courage to actually take away and go see what was in there When i did. I found seven sort of categories. Where all all the diaries lineup. There were stories. People places prescribes poems prayers and a whole lot of bumper. Sir okay. that's not bad title right there. I look through those and found found a theme. The theme of green lights came out meaning. I've found green lights or things we liked. Life's they say go they affirm our way. They approve what we're doing. They say yes they give us freedom we don't like the red neon lights their hardships interventions They make a slow down or stop and get in our flow. But i found that. I created a lot of green lights by decisions. I made choices. I make today create a green light for me in the future. Gave me delayed gratification. I found that many green lights have been thrown down. Model app is in the form of opportunities and found places. Right took advantage of those opportunities found places where i didn't take advantage some those opportunities What could have been green light. Never became one. I also found that all the red yellow light to my life the hardships. When i was lost in searching and trying to figure stuff out getting very wet can't between raindrops that there were they had green light assets invested in them. Sometimes i noticed that the green light while i was in them the hardship. Sometimes i didn't notice him until tomorrow. The next week months some of them. I noticed ten fifteen years down the road some of them i still have not reaped the the green light benefits of my red and yellow lights in my life and i believe is that all of the red neon lights and all of our lives eventually turn green or at least reveal the green light assets in then through the lessons we learned through. Was that daunting to go back through thirty five. Thirty six years of diaries. Where you scared about doing that worried about what you might find when you open those bucks. Yes very much. I said i feared embarrassment shame All both of which i had when i went back and looked at them but i also found this some of the things i thought i'd be only embarrassed about. I laughed my blood off. Thought larry's some of the things that i thought it'd be shamed about. I found that. I had forgiven myself or forgave myself. In the writing of the book with them So it was daunting the hardest part though like most of the things we do call working out. What's the hardest part about going to work out putting your damn shoes on and tiny. The hardest part was going okay. I'm doing this load up the car. Take the treasure chest. Your diaries were going away. We're not coming back until we have something after i did that. I let the dyers telling me what was in there and found central themes in started. Did you know edit and put things together and try to create columns in dramatics through the through the book all leaning towards Title green light and that became a very. It was very hard. I average that seventeen hour days took fifty two days of writing and solitaire in solitude and then over the last year and a half editing What i'd rid. So what does that look like. You say packing up the car going out in the solitude with your diaries you went to the desert. What are we talking about here. You in the desert with a stack of diaries camping out there. What was it like. There was a had a friend who had under property in the middle of nowhere and she had a small cabinet went to the first twelve days. No electricity just me and my diaries To go no cell service. No internet service just. I didn't want anything intruding on my top. Wanted if all. I had. If all i had with me was diaries. Then that's all i can obsess on. And if i get bored or my mind charts just go back to the statute. You're here for ba- fully singularly obsessed with those so. That was me in my life of fifty years together alone. But i feel days after that The next place or rated a generator in a move to place with a little bit of electricity. I brought a printer with me. I transported transcribing some things onto things. That weren't already And i would go in like ten to twelve day little runs. I'd go away then. I'd come back. Hannah honeydews at home and get get boundary balanced with family and then get to look for another job and head out when hard part about that was coming home not staying on the writing i would. I'd be my wife was very good about. She was like. Don't come back until you're fulfilled with what you've done on this run writing so i had a good. I had a good support system as well. Doing i get why you wanted to read through those kind of rediscover yourself as you said. Forgive yourself a little bit. But then there's a leap to make all that public in a book. So what was the moment where you said. Boy this is interesting. Maybe be cathartic for me. But i think it's worth telling the world about yeah great question. I mean i understood early on matthew. Mcconaughey has its celebrity is going to sell certain amount of books. People will buy them because they're also quite a few people that will not buy it because it's just by matthew guy so i remember writing myself on day four. The words on these pages needs to be worthy of sharing. If they're signed by anonymous but at the same time the a book that only i could have written so that was my sort of measure of like excellence of what i needed to put down. What the words needed to at least be from the point of view. I've been found this. I found that the more personal. I got the more relatable the stories in the prescribes and the whatever wisdom's in their became the more shared subjective experiences of mine. The more i saw and was felt assured that other people say. Oh i see myself. I had a situation like that monaco. This is a way to go about. Oh this is how i went about. what did it give me later on. What did that decision. Give me later on in life. Did it by me more. Roi return on my investment ourselves in the future And the stories are just plain at wild in in adventures. Anyway so it's not a it's not a. It's not an a sort of academic read. You know it's more of a philosophical adventure story with some some some wisdom along the way and it's quite balanced as you open up. I get away with a lot of things. I pull a lot of things off. I do come out dancing through the raindrops absolutely dry. In many circumstances it's also equally balanced with times are ahead grand plans to come out dry and came out so good wet and did not pull things off and looking at those as part of lives adventure instead of regretting them. Repealing oh that's failure. Go now that you stayed in the game. Stay in the game. Which is really. Just keep giving me what else we need to do. Just keep living to stay in the game and Right in the book. You know lives verb. We don't have that todd moment where we arrive go now. I've got it all figured out now. I've done it as far as i could tell. That moment doesn't exist. When you say the celebrity written book like this you might think all right. I'm gonna get a little taste of what he's like. I feel like. I got the whole meal reading this. Was there anything that you left out. Was there any line. You wouldn't cross and say that belongs to be here that belongs to my mom or something that you didn't want to put out in the public. Sure i mean look. There's it's not a tell all book you i don't i don't i. Don't tell tall tales on people. I was very conscious to go. Even if i was the main character in a certain story you know what. That's not really my story to tell. That'd be trespassing on that. Other person's privacy their own privacy. Or maybe a privacy of a moment that we had nobody else's business thought it'd be indecent and nothing constructive about sharing that. I bring up things early in the book with one liners and a lot of. It's been written about lately about how i lost my virginity for instance. I didn't choose to go into the details of that story or stories like that. Because i didn't see anything constructive from i didn't see a lesson that was learned. Those were moments in time that i was very clear when they were happening. This is wrong. This is not ideal. This is a red light. But i don't need to psychologically unpack this for the rest of my life. I don't have a constructive story of a way to handle it better. It was clear to me at the time when those those things happen me that this is not how i planned. This is not how i would wish. I wouldn't wish this moment on anybody but to go into the details of it. I just felt like and the reason i didn't go into details on some of those felt like it would prop it up to for to be voyeur. Would prop it up to that. you know. Oh that's a great thing to in this day and age to go. Let's make that the headline go into certain salacious details of that which would take the eye off the ball. Take the eye off the ball with the whole book is. Is there something therapeutic about that. Saying out loud even if you don't get into the details as you say it's painful now you've now you've said it. There's threat is therapeutic and that is free. yeah. I write in the book but not leaving crumbs or not. We all have certain things that are for ourselves and not for anyone else. I've got. I've got him to but to share those things and in a non sentimental way or in a way that i in a way that as i said in the book i never felt victimized by those things but to own up to share my scars and not look for. Someone's pity or not look for someone to come go. We need to really break down the With this with this done to you whatever whatever they did to me it's too i am and i have lived through it and i was very clear those things were not ideal or and not that they wrong in someone asks this the other day i guess you know if they happen to me younger in life where if out of any confusion about them being right or wrong that could have been more traumatic. But at the time i was there was confusion was like that's wrong man. I ended up in a bad spot. This is not how i saw. I don't ever want to be here again. So the clarity of that allowed me to sorta compartmentalize. Put it back and go. I'm not going to go into details of that and share it. Because i don't see anything constructive about that but it is. It's details like that though. i think. Why the book is so fascinating because you arrive to most of us as a movie star we saw you in a time to kill or dazed and confused and you always matthew mcconaughey but now here the twenty three rd twenty five years that preceded that including the first story in the book once he introduced the concept and explain. What green lights are that incredible breathtaking seen with your parents fighting the kitchen with blood and catch up on the floor and everything that happens after that and talk about it you say. The love was real. It was bloody sometimes but never in question when you're looking at something like that as a kid. The scene in that kitchen. Do you know that's wrong or did this come later. This epiphany later that was actually you. Were watching love in some form. Well i i was scared at the moment but even then immediately after that i didn't ever questioned the the love that mom and dad hat or the love that they gave us never questioned. And i think it's why. Tell when i've always in my life people go tell us about. You seem like you really love your family and your mom and dad and how you raise an eye till yeah and when i tell the stories i tell these stories that are bloody and ugly sometimes violent and i think the reason i tell him is that those were times where the love that we had. That was never question was most challenged but never had a chance. Bnb so the love that was around never had a chance of being punctured. It just we had a lot of. I love you. I just don't like you right now. Those i tell the moments of great dislike moments of my mom and dad were divorced twice. Married three times yeah the two divorces if it would've been an opposite married twice divorced three times will love would not have won but they battled it out and the love always one that senior talking about which was bloody invite ended up with him making love on the floor. Villa one again that was just never never questioned. It was scary scary moment. And i did remove myself from it and it was also a moment that look. My parents didn't never go objectively later on. Hey we want to talk to you about that now. I mean we were already onto the next mom they had made up. We had made up. Life's a rodeo that that's how they communicated i don't choose communicate like that But i didn't judge it. I didn't i. Didn't i really didn't judge. It was wild. It was passionate. It was scary but it was the way they loved each other. But you can see why some people are going to read this. Probably most people read this and say wait a minute. that's abuse. that's what i'm looking in the way. Your father trees sometimes is abuse. Did you not see it that way. Is it really fair for someone else to say that if the person who is actually saying in very conscious of what happened says no. It wasn't question. I i my god is that it's not really fair I'm not in denial of it. My mom and dad are not denial of it. My mom was never into knowledge. She's the first one to this day at eighty eight years old the other room to go. Oh yeah i needed that. I push those fights. I'm the one that started those fights. I needed that communicate. So i can't jump not gonna judge her. I don't choose to need that. I don't need that much resistance in a relationship to feel passionate about it so i don't know that it's really fair for someone to tell someone else. Oh you're you're you're you've been victimized in your abuse the principles no i wasn't. I didn't how i took it. You can't take that you can't steal someone's understanding true understanding not in denial true understanding of the situation. Every time i got in trouble if someone goes. Oh i don't agree with that. That's fine. I don't raise my children the same way. My parents raised me. I don't have the same forms of discipline is they did. But i'm not dare i'm not. I don't dare judge how my parents did it. Because every single time i got in trouble or got the bill to whatever i earned it. I knew what i did wrong. It was clear the values that my parents weren't stealing in me got in trouble for not engine to my name for saying i can't instead of having trouble for saying i hate and for lion. Now what did i learn from that. Answer to your name love. Donate you're having trouble instead of saying you can't do something and don't lie pretty damn four great values. I learned out of that. And i was never injured from any of those things. Aren't families Injured from those from those times district. So that's that's that's another reason why they're loves choice to me. Has your perspective on that changed over the years when you say certainly not the way you handle your children or your relationship your marriage. Dc differently today than you did as a child. I think myself like most of society is trying to turn a page Volve in are ways that we teach lessons to our children evolve and what consequences because there are consequences. Good and bad for everything we do and children. I believe need consequences. And i understand the value of even fear There's a lot of things. I didn't do as a kid that i shouldn't have done for fear of the consequences and that was helpful. That was useful. We chew i choose an our family to to to have much dialogue than my parents shoes or their parents shoes and remember this is a whole another generation that my parents came into and they were raised in a whole different way. That would have probably said the way their parents would probably thought that they were too light on their kids us. So it's a different. If the different way we have more dialogue now we couldn't have much the parents. It's it's my parents. Were a lot of like a lot of parents at that time. Why because i said so we might my my wife and i do a little more explaining. Okay let's debate this out. We talk about it a little bit more and even today my mom she talk about it too much choosing to do that or trying to work it out. And that's the way we're trying we're choosing to do it like i think a lot of people are so we're there's so much in here we don't have time to cover all unfortunately but skipping ahead to acting career and where that even comes from c. We've painted a picture of this household that should come out of. Where does the actor matthew mcconaughey come from. When was he born. And i guess i mean looking back i could say if i'm going to deconstruct this in go. He was born november fourth nineteen sixty nine day. I was born. But i didn't know it. Now mind you now. I look back. It's always a science when you look back right. Going forward is a mystery bone. And you look back you connect. Oh you did have that any. I look back now. We were always telling stories. The dinner table full of storytelling. Everybody told the story. And you better tell a damn good or you will get interrupted until we'll over so you wanna get a word in edgewise. You better have good store and you better tell it well. It was It was it was a fierce competition to that around the tape. So i grew up hearing great storytellers. Then i became a good storyteller now literally to say oh did i win. Did i want to act. It wasn't really until after. I got my first job days confused literally but even now when you read the book i look back in my diaries. I wanted to act before that. I couldn't admit it to myself out loud or tell my dad or my friends writing. I could say. I wanted to go to films going to be a storyteller but could admit i wanted to be an actor. I couldn't even dream about. It was not in the vernacular of my dreams. Seem so far out there. So avant-garde so other than so impractical. But i did want to and like many things in the in the book that i say i forgot like ten goals at the end of the book or i did notice that i wanted to be an actor. Well obviously i did do know when i look back ago. You may not have consciously acknowledged that but really you did. And i found out of that and going back through these diaries of the last fifty years and you never could have imagined speaking of dazed and confused. When you improv the line that you probably would have it yell at you on the street. Three or four times a day. When you famously said all right all right all right was it ever said on film yet and it's true. He just came up with that on your own. Yeah that there is not a word written for that entire scene. I was not even supposed to work that night. I was on set to hair and makeup and wardrobe test and the director invited me into a scene to say. Hey do you think your character woodson would be interested in you know the red headed intellectual unlike yet waterson out on a girl. She's like well you now. Mercer playing the role of cynthia the red headed intellectual. Here the top notch. Drive in think. Maybe you'd be in your car. Maybe pull up in china. Pick her up and like sure next thing. I know i'm in the car and about shoot my first scene of my career at that time. Thinking was probably a one off to date. Hobby had in the summer of ninety. Two and i started to go through my head. Who's my man whose waterson. What does what orson about. And as a person about his car as well. i'm in my nineteen seventy chevelle. There's one i said waterson about getting high as it will slater's riding shotgun. He's always gotta do be rolled up as woodson's about rock and roll. I said i got ted nugent. Stranglehold in the eight track three. And then i heard action looked up over their for busy cynthia. The red headed intellectual. And i said to myself folders since about picking up chicks. I got three out of four. Ch alright alright alright. That's incredible and you'll never could have known that was going to become. How often do you hear that from people every day. All gem i hear it i get pictures. People have it tattooed very Sensational places on their body on you. Don t shirts hats it. It precedes me an follows me and you get asked all the time to get tired of it and my answers absolutely not because of those were the first three words i said ever on film and i didn't know if that was gonna be a couple of day job in the summer ninety ninety two and i would never do it again but twenty eight years later turned out to be a career. Yeah so it's a callback for me. When i hear it. That's exactly how precisely how i got started. That's really cool. It's like a monument the beginning of your career. And so you know. I think it's fair to say that there are some other films in between but time to kill was the moment that you became. Forgive the finger movie star. You know sure so. What was that like for you personally because you do right about in the book where you go from literally one day. Nobody recognized you on the street to the next day. You're walking around. I think it's santa. Monica and everyone in the st nausea. Well over the weekend that a time to kill came out the opening weekend my life changed over those. Today's it opened on a friday night by monday morning. The world is a different place. The world was a mirror. People come up. oh i'm sorry about miss hud. Wait a minute. what's your name has had a dog. had you know name. Ms hud and had you know she had cancer. You just skipped four. Things leaves right into the hat. Low bit shocking. Everyone had a biography of which happens to any person who gets famous. Somebody has an innate perception. Somehow of that person for they come up. They lean right into the story. They come right into the cliff notes. You know without the introduction. I noticed that i was not meeting strangers anymore. I noticed that for me personally. My soul needed some missed anonymity here all of sudden last friday before time to kill cames out came out. There were one hundred scripts. I would have done. But i couldn't do any of them and now two days later monday. They're offering me all hundred of those scripts. And i'm going what two days ago i would have done any of those and now you're telling me i can do all of those. I need some discernment. I need to go figure out what what what what matters here matters to me. So i put on backpacking. Got out of dodge went to places where people did not know my name where i was stuck with. No one but me and my internal dialogue to try and get my soul and feet on the ground and understand my head and my heart communicating. Clearly again what is it. I want what i wanna do. What is it. i don't want. I write about this a lot in the book. You is very hard to know what we want and who we are. And that's okay by process of elimination. Getting rid of the things you don't want and who you are not you will give you a better chance to end up being who you are and getting what you want. So that was the beginning of that process after became famous and And then went on from there. It's been every day since then for you feel like a lifetime ago when people did not know you on the street i kind of kind of. I'm kind of at ease with it now. I still able to now move an and much more equipped now to meet someone already understand. Is that out. They've already got a bye on you. But here i know how to get down underneath that with them so we can have a real conversation. They can be completely honest with me as the guy they just met matthew. Not the actor but the man matthew mcconaughey so i've learned the tools for how to get under that in a graceful way. Hopefully and sometimes it takes longer with certain people. Sometimes it can take you know. I don't have the effort. Where right about in the book less impressed more involved. Sometimes people be so impressed with my fame or something. i'm not. They're not involved in the conversation with right there holding a reverence for my place in society as someone famous that they're not really being themselves behaviors. I've learned tools to get them to go. Okay got that now. Hey you hug and asking certain question about the day. Do you have children or something like that. And all of a sudden then baselines. And i can have an involve conversation honest conversation with somebody but i've learned how to do that over the years. Hey guys thanks for listening to the sunday. Sit down podcasts. Stick around to hear more from matthew mcconaughey. The break welcome back to the sunday. Sit down podcast now. More of my conversation with matthew mcconaughey some great scenes in the book when you're on this run of romantic comedies. And i think it's the first one the big one the wedding planner where they write you. Big check and you go. Wow okay. i'm going to get my own key to the kitchen could stakes at three o'clock in the morning. Did you enjoy living that big life during that run when really boy it was one movie after another that we're hits and everybody knew you and your co stars also big stars as well. Did you like that run up until a point because in the book you say i knew it sorta had to end somewhere i did. I thoroughly enjoyed it when i gave myself license to enjoy it. I went ahead and said okay. Let's let's see how much freedom you can give yourself a go it. Let's just let's the lean into your life that you've that you've got mcconnell haney the access influence and things. let's lean into. Just let's let's. Let's go play that character for a while and i did and i quite enjoyed it but i always knew even going into that. It was going to be a stop not stay. I mean i knew. I didn't know how long but i was like no. Don't go ahead don't don't don't you know. Pull out of this too early. Lean into it. Enjoy it and you'll know when it's time to get out and that time did come where i needed more resistance. I needed more. I was out had enough saturdays in a row in my life and on screening and i needed some monday morning accountability responsibility And i needed to ascension. Any building needs resistance to create a new structure in my life. And then i think around two thousand eight or so you sort of put on the brakes on things for almost two years and twenty months new. Crm and recalibrate. What were you doing in those twenty months and had you know which direction to head after that. Well i knew. I wanted to go and what roles i wanted to do but those rules are not coming my way so they were not an option. So because i couldn't do what i wanted to do. I stop doing what. I was doing South romantic comedy. Stop the action adventures chateau etc. I'd met My now camilla. At that time was miss fall in love with her and we had created our first child so those were to really great anchors to have for me in my life when i chose to take a sabbatical from working. I knew i would battle bouts of insignificance which i did a new. I'd battle bouts of doubt. What are you doing. I mean you're not you're not working right now and you just got offered boo millions of bucks to go do the that rahm common. You love doing those and they're easy. Why would you get work. You go to work. And i said no not not not not hanging there hanging there I also we had a. We had a family crisis That i had to tend to outside of my immediate family that atta tend to which gave me real purpose. And that's the hard part about being in limbo anywhere. It's hard barbadian limbo. We're all in right now with kobe. Yeah what's our purpose. I don't have any. I did without purpose. What do i do So i didn't really feel like i had purpose but i did in anytime. I didn't feel like ad. I looked at my child. I looked at my wife. And i looked at my family that i was tending to so i did find purpose in those things but i did. I entertained maybe they never called back. Maybe hollywood never call span. Maybe this is it. Maybe i'm going to be a high school football coach. Maybe i'm going to be a teacher. Maybe i mean an orchestra conductor. I don't know. I entertain those things but after months of nothing no rom coms no cnn me shirtless on the beach. Where's mcconaughey he's forgotten. Guess what now. He just became a new good idea for a role like lincoln. Lawyer killer joe. Paper boy magic. My mud true detective. So i- unbranded. In those two years i was gone. I was i was anonymous. Where is he. We don't see him every day like we were seeing him every day. We don't see in the theater like we were seeing these kind of gone persona non grata. And that's when i became a new good idea for the types of roles that i was really wanting and then just ferociously grabbed hold up and and ran with like you say though even for you is successful as you are. There must have been some trepidation about that. Because hollywood is so much about relevance and being hot so all of a sudden if you're gone for twenty months now maybe maybe he's out of the game maybe he's checked out but it turned out to be a great calculation. It worked out. And i had hunch always made the commitment i was i was really not gonna come back and tell the story about even getting that for two and a half million dollar off do that really now. I was never gonna do. I mean look like. I said i reread it because she that amount of money and i write in the book. It was a better script even though the same words written at a much lower offer. It wasn't better script five puritanical out to that for janika fun this now. Everybody's got a number and it wasn't medicine. But i said no and actually that i think indirectly sin a signal in some ways to hollywood is not bluffing at all. And then again. I was sort of forgotten for the fourteen months that nothing came in But i saved my money. Well i knew. I was checking in you know and if nothing no the work came in found another job to pay the rent Yeah but i stuck to it. I knew in my gut. There was something that down. The line was going to come back to feed my soul. If i stuck with this sabbatical by stuck with this penance that self imposed penance that i put myself and then within the space of a year two thousand thirteen fourteen you get true detective and dallas buyers club turn out arguably be the two best roles in your career per she won the oscar for dallas buyers club that had to be incredibly gratifying after twenty months of not being. Sure how this was gonna turn out exactly. Have it. Turn out that well. Yeah it was. It was a affirmation that me as an artist as an actor what i was putting out there. What i was intending to do was actually translating. Art was translating it. What was the most deeply personal. The more personal. I got with the roles which i was at that time in two pictures like that true detective dallas buyers and others the more personal got the more the world related to what i was giving out. It's something i've learned in the writing of this book. The more personal the book. I spoke about earlier. The more relatable it became more people it was the fact that was translating and the fact that my peers. Who have great respect for said we deem your work in this film the most excellent of the year. That's wonderful and it. Let me know that. I was communicating the right way that my art communicating that myself was communicating and in a in a very large scale and on a scale that people were going like no. That's fine craftsmanship. Yes well yeah. And also i have to imagine for someone like you was so famous. Who gets people get swallowed up by celebrity culture. And you do have your shirt off in paparazzi shots and us weekly's after you and your during the romantic comedies. Few said no wait a minute. Let's not forget. I'm an actor and i'm about to show you. That was sort of a contrast from some of that celebrity stuff. That wasn't really you. But that was projected on you will but does other things for me to and always said that rom coms. I loved him. No i just mean being an weekly didn't ask for all that stuff all the celebrity. But i understood that comes. I mean. i'm aware enough to that comes with the world you know and but but as far as like people try to go you know. Oh this is now in. That was then. That wasn't really. You is a shirtless guy. Rahm come now. you're showing your true self. That's a bunch of bs that was me to instill is and those rom coms doing. We're the rent for the house. Is that. I was living on the beach. Shirtless on yes. Thank you never so old. Oh well that was all slough that i never had that question myself of like. Oh i'm not. I don't have the goods. I didn't have that question. I did though understand. Oh minute position where these romantic comedies. They're doing very well and they're entertaining. And i respect that entertainment. But they're they're done so well solidified my perception of me so much as a romcom lead in the Said i'm not getting anything else. Okay i get this game. What i need to do here like. I said i can't do what i wanna do. So i'm gonna stop doing what i've been doing and i'm going to double down on this bet. And hopefully it works. And it did the term reconaissance mcconnell. Yeah love it love. Its musical comes off the lips easy. It was a you know that that period that ronaldo's on needed a a slogan an album cover. It needed something that was fun to say. Kind of that could capsule. Is it something that felt like a verb. I've taken too much of your time. But i wanted just want to ask you in closing you write a lot about the the idea of legacy and and eulogy and what are people are gonna say about you and i think all of us reach a certain age. Your mindset shifts to that. Especially i think when you have kids kids to and you go. What are they gonna say about me. Or what's my legacy to them. So what do you think as you put all this. And it's all in there into a book. What do you hope. Anyway that your legacy will be. What do you hope people say about you. At the eulogy is the best father could be. He was at home in the world and worked daily to be at home with himself wherever he wasn't it. That's well said matthew. Thanks for the time. I really appreciate it man. I did to appreciate it. My big thanks to matthew for great conversation. I think they're all great conversations with matthew mcconaughey and just for being so open and honest and telling all these stories some of them probably not easy to put out in public. But he's put him down in. This book called green lights and it is in stores right now. My thanks as always to all of you for tuning in again this week. If you want to hear more of my full length conversations with guests like matthew mcconaughey every week be sure you click subscribe so you never miss an episode and of course. Don't forget to tune in to sunday today. Every weekend nbc. I'm willie geist. We'll see you right back here next week on sunday. Sit down podcast.

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WWHL @ Home: Natalie Portman & Matthew McConaughey

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

24:49 min | 8 months ago

WWHL @ Home: Natalie Portman & Matthew McConaughey

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast addition of Watch. What happens live with me, Andy Cohen. She played the part of Queen Amidala and then how to lose a guy in ten days he had a body part named Princess Sophia it's watch what happens live with Portman. And Matthew mcconaughey Hey now. Welcome to watch what happens live. I'm your host Andy Cohen with Renaissance Woman and a mckanna Sant's man my first guest is an Oscar winning actress who has enchanted fans the world over and she's behind a new book of enchanted stories Natalie Portman Fables. This is a Doral I I love it. It's out now it's Natalie Portman Hey Natalie, Portman Gracie you and my. Is also an Oscar winning actor and he's bearing all with his new project. No, it's not another magic Mike installment savvy, but it's just as good. It's a memoir green lights. It's out now it's a smash hit say hi to Matthew mcconaughey a hey matthew. and. It is our lascaux before Halloween who are virtual audience came ready to trick or treat for frisky La's Natalie Matthew everyone is dressed like your characters. I, WanNa go clockwise take a look. We've. Got Dallas buyers club top left garden state killer Joe Jackie Vox Lux. Beach Bomb New York I. Love You, and then there's a little me in the bottom left not bad right Really. To really good unexpected, unexpected, very sweet, good job, audience, Natalie and Matthew. You are here together and your so talented I wanna see how much you agree on regarding Hollywood with a Hollywood edition of one to agree or disagree I'm GonNa read off ten statements related to the business in count one to agree or disagree you will both hold up your sign saying whether you agree or disagree. We'll see how many opinions you share. Here we go first statement. Rom Com harder to do well, then dramas one to agree or disagree. Disagree Matthew the print on your papers as small as it is in your book, Dude Every election purple on. Okay. I liked disagree. Okay. The phrase it doesn't matter if you win or lose, it's just an honor to be nominated. Is some straight up both ONE TO AGREE OR DISAGREE They both agree I love it. Okay. If you're. In in the same category, as Meryl Streep just expect to lose one to agree or disagree. They both agree they're three for three. If you catch an old movie of yours on TV, you have to watch at least some of it one to. Disagree. Disagree really will not. You will not now newly? No still. Never. Never. Okay the. To Co Stars, are clashing onset. There's usually at least a little bit of truth to it one to agree or disagree. Tour. Yes. Yes, agree. Okay. There's a lot of tree sometimes there's a lot of truth to it. The worst part of making a movie is attending the Premiere one to agree or disagree. You like up for mayor. It's fun. There's Natalie says there's other worst parts. Okay. If a fan tells you that you are there celebrity hall pass it is flattering as opposed to creepy one to agree or disagree. That is he's coming with the hall pass I'm living in my back. And Hundred. Now you're your both, your both your both back and forth. has flattering ones in a Batson Very Grebien. Okay. He's ledgers joker was better than Jack, Nicholson's joker one to agree or disagree. A. Controversial. Are You doing this? Really really really really I'm with you Paul Ryan Okay. Hollywood os Lindsay Lohan a second chance one to agree or disagree. Owes. I know owes is a strong a Owi is a huge it is. Very talented into low and hopping back in. All right. Okay. Okay. Last one celebrities should stay out of politics one to agree or disagree. I'm with you both and I'm going to say I believe you guys were out of town I. Really enjoyed that that was good. Is the very first one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Just one. Okay. Well, Matthew and true detective. You taught the world that time is a flat circle but I hope you have another important flat circle on hand to coaster because I want you to spill the mcconnachie and give me some details from your new book. Your book is filled with bumper stickers lyrics one liners quick quotes. What is one quote you've heard that you've been most impacted by? An. been quite a few I think I think one of them though is. From a good friend of mine's great-great-grandfather and eight, my friend went to him when he was ninety years old to Bapu specify she. Give and he said. I've thousands of crisis is in my life. And most never happened. Good law cramp. Making false drama. Will. Okay, you came up with your iconic alright. Alright. Alright. Line from dazed and confused. was there anything else you were shopping? Did we almost have different quote? I wasn't work shopping anything. I was just enough to get invited into scenes that I was not previously written him and Richard Linklater the director and that cast would just lob me lines and asked me questions in the middle of the scene and I was just being waterson. You know he had would've had a great line that was written, and now they'll know about this sometimes you get a classic line written and it can be a launch pad line into the of the character plan and for Woodson it was that's what I love about those high school girls I get older today stayed the same age that line there's an encyclopedia on that person who believes that You wrote that you didn't prepare a speech for the Oscars because you thought it was bad. Karma, how do you think the speech would have been different if you wrote it beforehand. It would have been similar, but it wouldn't have been as real because I was I was coming off the cuff speaking from my heart at that moment. So if I'd have written it, you know I maybe I said the same thing, but it would have been more wrote it wouldn't have been probably as emotional for me or resonated as well audience. You I realized you were famous after being recognized in a Deli while ordering your go-to Sandwich. What is the craziest? I can't believe this is my life moment that you had when you first found fame. On the fame I remember being it was Gilson to go I was in the checkout counter with my groceries and I looked over the checkout counter and there were two magazine covers facing the and I was on the cover of both magazine and I remember going what I remember going. Out By two each that was that was a real example, the world becoming a mirror in a in a completely new way. In your book, you refer to atop studio executives Mr Bad. Karma after he wrote a note saying, you'd get bad Karma for shaving your head before filming rain of fire. Did you ever work with Mr? Bad Karma again, and did you send him a copy of your book? I. HAVE NOT WORKED BAD COM again I do respect and he and I are still friends. We still actually stay somewhat a contact and are happy each other when we do. But yes, I've not worked with them but remained friends with him and I did not send them a copy of the book but I do know that when he reads it, he's GonNa go God I was calling me out but thank you he did not use my name. Apparently you love to gamble what's The craziest thing you've ever put on the line that wasn't. Geez. I should think about what my kids have been Bet Nisa Matic. Physical feats. My my kids bet me like, Hey, can you? Swim across the lake. Over and touch that around Bolton back, and if you know if if you do that, we'll we'll do these certain extra chores for you. So my kids and not go through through little. That's that's the way we gamble. We'll and I'll do the same with them. Give them some sort of physical feed to go do. I'll do my fav- I love it. All right. Thank you for indulging the Natalie I was telling you before we went on this book of fables is so cute and I was so excited to get it because I don't. There's not a book that that I have of all the books for my son where that has all of these great books what was your motivation in in putting this together in such an a dorm? Thank you for saying that I was reading my kids books, I have a nine year old boy and a three-year-old girl. So I went through reading him books and then when I got to her, I realized that all the classic stories had almost all male characters. And I was. Upset because I didn't want to give her this message that. Male stories are more important to pay attention to or that we should think about male feelings more than female feeling. So I retold these classic fables and and just made the characters more reflective of the real gender balance of the of the Animal Kingdom. The Only God, the audience is going nuts are a little eight person audience. I. Love It. That is career. As an actress, you have a method for getting into character. So here's my method for getting into your character forcing you to reveal some deep seated truths about very silly topics. It's time to play. Are you the Natalie sort men? Okay. Are you the sort of person who always arrives fifteen minutes earlier fifteen minutes late? Late unfortunately interesting are you the sort of person who will tell your partner in a kissing scene if his or her breath is ranked? No I wouldn't. I Want WanNa be that kind of person but I'm. Not Unlike. Mint or something. Yeah I did learn from my mom she said never say, no, if someone offers you. Life the. Good. Life lesson are you sort of? You like run or are you the sort of person who reads reviews of yourself? Now. Are you the sort of person issues his truth or who or who chooses dare? there. Like it are you the sort of person who says nice to see you again even if you have absolutely no idea who the person is. Very smart. SMART. Woman are you the sort of person who is the first on the dance floor or who needs a little coaxing? At. First are you the sort of person who keeps her awards out for everyone to see? Do You keep them tucked away? In the basement all right. Very good. That's the sort of person she is I wanNA, see who has some questions from a virtual audience John Dressed as Matthew in Dallas buyers club John. What's your question for Natalie? What. What is the best piece of advice? Chris Hemsworth has given you in advance applying for and do you have to be on a regimented workout plan like he does? Thank you for your costume. First of all, you look amazing and and thinking for that question Chris Hemsworth, best advice well, he he would eat like a baby animal every. Half hour or something to like keep protein going. So I think that's probably going to have to figure out the like non animal equivalent of pounding protein. And yes, an training and so much pain like I'm not good at. least. Man Like I am I am. Almost forty year old mother of two like it is different sedan. Jack I'm like I can't. I can't get up I can't sit down. It's like it's a situation. Yeah. Not, happening when. Natalie WHO's fandom? Do you think is more intense marvel or Star Wars That's a good question Star. Wars. Star Wars people like who are star wars fans only referred to me by character names and I think that that is. Quite, different. Yes. Well. Then yell is dressed as Natalie's character in Garden State Danielle what is your question for Matthew mcconaughey? And Matthew. So my question for you is what was your reaction when you saw shell above hot boxing his car during the virtual table read of Fast Times at Ridgemont High, and could you feel the sexual tension between John Aniston and Brad Pitt? So Shaya who I'm a fan of as an actor. Glad a bit. Yeah he got outdid his all his set was in the car I didn't see the final edited version I. Pretty sure. There was a lot of stuff cut out. Because he was. So in character that sometimes I'm not sure if even knew word script was that was his. which was part of the part of the jeans, what he did. And and the second question was, could I feel the heat through the screen a Brad? So palpable. Yeah. Yeah it was so so. Now I. It was I noticed that after that that that's what a lot of the topics were about that or about them. No. I actually didn't notice anything through the screen, but that may forget job the next day by the way. Matthew we are taping this. On Wednesday afternoon, and we just got word that your book hit number one on the New York Times Bestseller? List. Wow I did not. Can I'm here to tell you not congratulations man. All right. That's a green. Yes. Green Light. Yes it is. There you go. That's. Right. feels yeah. feels wonderful. You know we were talking before the show you go off and you you do something on your own. This is a book that I sort of it's not a movie, but I wrote it and produced and directed etc, and to hear that it translated to hear that people related to to gump beyond the New York Times number one on it that means. Yeah you know what? What you put out there translated and that I know with any work I, do I suppose the Natalie's view on it with any art that we put up, we wanted to translate you know we do it ourselves, but we also wanted to translate. It's relatable to other people get something for that Reeburg that reciprocity feels beautiful. There you go and Natalie to think that you're going to be I mean people are going to be reading these stories to their kids and you've you've flipped the gender roles and that that could that could empower little girls. From here on out, which is a beautiful thing. Well, I hope boys to I think that's that's the joy of it hopefully is that everyone just goes into the world empathizing with all people regardless of what category they fit into because I think that that is as much for my boy as for my girl, I want them to like just see people as humans I. Yeah. Matthew Corey J wants to know if the rumors are true that the ROM com, you turn down in two thousand, ten with the big paycheck was the backup plan with J. Lo you wrote in your book you turned you turned out a Rom Com to not get trapped into doing them. That was not the wrong gone. That turned down that game with that mighty hefty offer that may be read the script twice. It. Natalie Brent sees said, be honest. Have you seen friends with benefits? No I haven't I I would love to I. I love both enough. Hey, this Sunday be sure to watch race in America are vote counts at ten. It's an important conversation with an all star panel including Zell. Bryant Dr Wendy, and Dr Heavenly right now it's time for this. Hey, in Bravo history. Thanks Paul. This is our last show before Halloween. So we would normally be celebrating with wigs, rockiness housewives, impressions. Obviously, we can't do that this year because this year is not fun. So before we all kickoff weekend that may be sitting at home crying into our candy corn let's trick or treat down memory lane with a look back at Loehmann's from Halloween episodes past. Gygi is be modeling. Costumes tonight, and this is Gigi as Theresa. Oh my God. Over. Do. You put out. Every night. Yeah. Of course, because your slide Kathy Bates, who is your head for our winning Kathy? Would have to say the. Cal. From the church in Keiko's. Macaque telling you. GotTa Start Doorbell God it's rogue. Rogue. Shark and Linda dressed as Kim Richards in the bunny it's. As Britney Spears walking Michael. Dean as me look exactly like I I have to. Jordan Dr Trick or treat for Andy. have a safe and happy Halloween everyone. Save your local lower level costumes for twenty twenty one. All right. I WANNA. Take Matthew mcconaughey and Natalie Portman for being watch our after show on twitter now. Thanks, guys. All right. Welcome back. It's our after show with Natalie Portman. Natalie Portman it's fables is out now and Matthew mcconaughey is book a Green Lights just went to number one on the nonfiction last. Congratulations. To you both Natalie Jenny t wants to know what's been your proudest moment working with times up and do you think you help the conversation start when you talked about pay inequality on no strings attached I don't know that I started anything a definitely. was part of a conversation that required you hundreds and thousands of women I. Think the proudest moment has been So many of us coming together to start Angel City at Sea which is not related to times up. But so many of us met through times up who were part of it, which is the female soccer team in Los Angeles that's launching in two, twenty, twenty two. That's very funny. Matthew Caleb wants to know the best and worst thing about your mom living with you during the pandemic and you still trying to set her up with Hugh Grant's Dad. Yeah the Hugh Grant Staff thing that unaware that went and they would often the satellite. So now coin teams can be hard to set them up maybe we can set him up virtually best part look. She is around her grandkids my kids now every single day whereas beforehand she was seeing him maybe once every two weeks. Yeah. So that's going to invaluable for her and the kids hardest thing is this if we don't have Kendall Jackson cold and ready to go six o'clock. or or she this thing? She's a big reader. She is getting the got in the habit of letting us know when she's on the last page of her last book that OC needs another book and we're trying to get across the head takes a while to get another book and get it sent here. So having books ready and having Kendall Jackson Gold at six o'clock that's the hardest part. Take Care of those easy. By the way Matthew I have to assume that it was a was was it a fight? I'm sure it was a discussion with your publisher about the print in your book being small because that's an artistic choice that I have to assume you were behind and publishers. Sometimes aren't into that was that was that tough for you to push that through It wasn't so much about the size, but I am a big font nerd love So I went through all these bonds and about six different types of Fox that are deliberately put in different places in through the book. But the Fox are really what I pushed on the size those He's discussion on now. Now. Now, Rachel h wants to know if you think you still could do any of your Black Swan Choreography. Ever had my husband's help. He. He was good at like turning me because I can't really turn. Would like sit out of frame and dislike like late twist relate that. So I could probably do that if he if he invented to be part of it right? Right. Matthew Olivia be wants to know who's done the best and worst. Matthew mcconaughey impressions that you've seen. Damon's Great Adam. He's got really good. David. Oh walked by on TV now that's not how. It's done the worst ones I. Listened Batman's out there. I'm sure but Damon Damon does a pretty good job. I mean someone came to me a couple of years ago by going hey, in a match. Curious. If will you think about those oppressive like Nah does a good one? I'm fine with it. It's a compliment and he doesn't really really well. So I'm like, no, even up. You know who did a horrible one deliberately was Lisa Kudrow in the comeback. Did you ever see that? No she did an impression of she. Her character thought she was doing a good impression Matthew mcconaughey but it was. It's really funny All right I want to thank Natalie and Matthew for hanging out with. US tonight very fun. Go get both of their books in stores. Now for more click around Bravo, TV DOT com. Thanks you to really appreciate it. Thanks for listening to the PODCAST everybody. Hope you enjoyed the show remember new episodes go live Monday through Friday at four. PM Eastern time. Make sure your subscribe to have a great rusty or not.

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REShow: Matthew McConaughey. Hour 3 (10-26-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

55:43 min | 8 months ago

REShow: Matthew McConaughey. Hour 3 (10-26-20)

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Nominal earlier on the show from NBC Sports Peter King Cardinals Cornerback Patrick Peterson MLB Commissioner Rob. Manfred coming. A Category Award winning actor Matthew mcconaughey Hey, and now. Serves rich is. Our number three of our show on the air. Yes. That's right. Matthew mcconaughey is going to be joining us in about twenty minutes time. The Academy Award winners appeared on the show. Many Times is a book. Green lights is his new. Book that is out. We'll have a great chat with him. He's A. Fan despite growing up in Texas we don't always a die hard. Texas Longhorn guy he's He's an ambassador there right he's health culture ambassador there something like that I know but he's just he's still grew up loving the wash football team. You must be very pleased about that as they just dismantled the cowboys yesterday and that was before Minister of Culture. That's what he's called He they dismantled the cowboys but that was before Andy Dalton nearly got dismantled by John Bostick. And we ended our our last hour the our overreaction Monday segment that the cowboys are going to one and done. That they're gonNA one and done. Mike McCarthy. And the NFL. Network. News Desk just monitored Steven Jones talking on one zero, five, three the fan in Dallas and I just got some quotes here. Steven Jones says, Bendaoud. She will get a lot of work this week while Dalton stays in the. Concussion Protocol. They'll also take a look at other options around the league including on their own staff Garrett Gilbert. Who I think if not a if I'm not mistaken was was Leo DiCaprio and what's eating Garrett Gilbert years ago. That was Gobert great I'm sorry. That will g two different. Wouldn't that be fascinating if they turn quarterback named Garrett there. Won't be glad regarding cowboys reaction to the hit that concussed Dalton. Steven Jones says sometimes, players don't see the hits obviously coach. McCarthy had some things to say about that and we'll move forward as we go. Andy is tremendous respect on this football team. I know we've got the right guy for the job. He says, of McCarthy, things just take time I know our fans are frustrated. We certainly understand the criticism that's come our way, but we've got to go to work. I'm not sticking my head in the sand I understand there's GonNa be some frustration talked about a McCarthy has proven. He can do it year in and year out. Thinks that they're going in the right direction. So anybody thinks that they're. GonNa want. Don McCarthy right now at two and five start getting ready to potentially start. James, Madison's Benvenuti on Sunday night football and Philadelphia and a pretty damn big football game. if anybody thinks that McCarthy seats getting hot and they might even make a move now forget it. That's not happening. Bending the Jones is also they have this reputation, but they don't fire. They don't know they don't if you remember they they. These the only one. They really do not do give that is their. Except for you know the best coach we've had in the last. Twenty five thirty years fired him well, Jimmy often. So I know that way a force I think in in re I think in recent days though they have proven, they stuck with Garrett a time and don't count recently rich count the good time. That Wade they stuck with wait. Wait for a while including even into the next season when they fired and turn the interim Jason. Garrett. They do that They sure do that eight, four, zero, four, rich number two doubt. Let's talk some college football. We have not talked very much college football weekend full slate. First things first that kid waddell. So special in Alabama. Broke his ankle. That is a total bummer. 'cause. He was. Would you say? Get ready for the getting ready for second place in the heisman. votes. Because Trevor Lawrence is going to take that thing home. I. Think might as well. You might as well put long hair on on the heisman trophy break. So I mean he's second in the heisman he's going to be a top twenty pick I wide receiver taken in the draft everything for this kid bulletin a cough winner. Broke his ankle. That is an absolute bummer wasn't on the opening kickoff. Yeah. You can't replace a guy like, Jalen, Waddell save and said today comparing it to losing Alan Iverson scoring thirty points in a game. But the prognosis is good. because. Jalen Waddell had successful surgery that both Kenyan Drake and Derrick Henry had in Alabama was pointing that out. Probably, six to eight weeks before we can really start real rehab. So. Okay, that's about as the update on. So but so it's Clemson Alabama, right. Your Notre Dame fighting Irish looking pretty damn good too. Yeah but Georgia tech this week come I got gotTA play teams. It's like they're playing the ACC. Clemson. Yes I believe. Because that'll. Yeah. That'll be that'll be the time think. Oh Yeah, they play actually next week we oh, I thought it was a few weeks ago on seven. I be that that'll imp- important there they could beat them and then and then my my Ohio state friends that were texting me. Oh, my God Nebraska Nebraska's doing this. Nebraska's doing that our defense or this or that I'm like, please unsubscribe. UNSUBSCRIBE and mute. We all know you're gonNA score before halftime and then after time and then look back and make sure that Nebraska leaves. Columbus. Ruining the day their parents hired a lawyer. That's what happened. Just, fields is really freaking good again. He is really really good and we'll be a heck of a consolation prize for whoever does not get Trevor Lawrence at the top of the draft. A heck of a consolation prize at what point. Have we reached the point where we're wondering if Georgia knew what the hell they were doing. Have we reach Makes you one more What was going on there because Jake from played so well had to transfer lease really I from is I went to the national chain I. Know Him get. A were one play away from winning the title I seen Jake Prom play football. I'm seeing Justin Felix played football and maybe even Ryan days. Outstanding offensive coach really is a great coke. And outweighing Haskins right after the first round. I know. So. So can I just read you a couple of these texts sure with my friends Looks like by that site that predicts the draft water jets. Now forty one percent I bic Jacksonville seventeen percent. So they're in the because I am I'm getting to the point where I have to keep reminding everybody on my o hostile friends who who took out the greatest quarterback of all time, right? I mean reaching my favorite. Skull through all of the complaining about how terrible Ohio state looked in the first half right here. Yeah. Basically said you know just in fields because they're talking about how justify I was upset how Justin fields playing right and I basically said all need just fields needs to do essentially is continue on to the NFL and all he's got to do is be a backup. It'll be better than Haskins but not nearly as good coming out of the gate is Kent Graham on sorry forget about Tom Kupa then I'm just sending all of these gifts because again, I'm sending a ton of these days of Brady. All his rings. But wait just wait just wait you know 'cause it's coming in December I'll say this about Jomo, Elton the junior quarterback. I'm trying to pump the brakes a little bit. He is the first quarterback that Jim Harbaugh has started the season with. An starting in a game to start a season with. That he actually recruited out of high school. Everybody Else Jake. Rudolph, we keep going on down the line here shaping. Other People's player he's. Not like this kid. Not like this kitten. A The number of times you know I always shoot your straight. On Saturday night as they were. Taken out Minnesota. Instead of having a couple of those untimely quarterback turnovers, they didn't have any. And that wound up being a blowout as opposed to a tight game that they lost on the road. As. It was. Sunning, bacchus fast to there's a ton of them. There's a lot of talented fast kids I'm waiting to see how it all pans out. Wisconsin's quarterback. Tested positive for covid correct which means it's a twenty one day. Sit Out. It's confirmed. Yes. Because that's the big ten policy. Policy and then there's Penn. state. 'cause oh, by the way rutgers. To the big break went out stop you can't even don't even talk turning bicoastal Mr New Jersey. Just suddenly you're going to own. Shops. University of New Jersey the skyway and sticker sun don't shine pizza and readily. SEATTLE. Seven. Turnovers they got Michigan State Seven. Can Coach College all you just want Nice High Register. Exactly. Penn. State Man Indiana is one of those big ten teams that you proverbial. You don't WanNa face. Indiana's the Higher Register team in the big ten. I mean Hey Indiana's got that good offense. You never know what's Up. Know Kevin Coleman. High registered. Indiana's ranked this. Why not? And interestingly enough. Tom. Allen the head coach at Indiana I. Think he's had enough of the High Register Indiana. Because in a game. That they had one. And then Staring into the jaws of defeat because they gave up a big huge bomb. And then went for Penn state gets the ball deep in Indiana zone. And score a touchdown. Similar to what Todd Gurley did in. ATLANTA AGAINST DETROIT LETTING DETROIT BACK in Indiana is like okay. We'll take the ball back when we didn't think we get back again down eight we'll score we'll go for to wolf force over time will scorn overtime and then go for two in the wind because his Tom Allen said afterwards, he was sick and tired of Indiana coming close Of It. And then. The two point conversion happens. And this is the. I have as you know been an advocate for instant replay forever right you have. I've never seen a more difficult instant replay in my entire life. In my entire life I've never seen. The moment where Indiana's quarterback. Michael. Panics junior okay. Thank you. Sounds like a NASCAR driver. Michael Pence Junior. Tries to score and the ball touches the pylon. Ruled a touchdown on the field. After further review, it looked like the ball hit. The ground. Before the pylon. And half of the ball is on white out of bounds large stripe. The tip of the ball. Is Breaking the plane just before it hits the Pylon, you cannot tell. Now there were no good angle that. You cannot. Actually. I disagree the angles perfect. You just can't tell if the ball is broken the plane before it hit the ground or hit the pylon if this was ruled on the field is no touchdown I think they'd have to stay with it. I think you're right. Whatever was on the field they had to stay with. I don't know what's more difficult. The ruling but instant replay or the number of people. WHO had a tweet? loaded. Up. And wondering whether it was appropriate to send. About a guy named PEDIC's. Extending Oh. In a game of inches. Wow. With a ball. And the tip. Lot of lot of moments of my own thumb Hummer over the to. How many did you delete? Delete I just saved. I just discard Handful, richer crossing the line, right? I'm not breaking the plan here. I'm not. Breaking the playing. The pylon. Touched by panics. In this moment. And I did text again one I did text Fowler as he was doing highlights during the game on like five bucks if you say the word. The. Mixed. Did he do it? Later. Look at that but what a moment, the fact that this kid panics was able to. Not have any other. Part of his body was literally levitating was as he reached the goal line. Wanting it, it's all about want to need to have. And it comes from the coach. Comes from the coach if you're thinking to, you know your Michigan. Guy. Would you know about Indian saw this. Incredible. Moment that Indiana football tweeted out of Tom Allen in the locker room afterwards I love this. This is what football's up out. A special thing. Until you got a special group. Sportsman. Goosebumps Elsa. That's what it's about. That's why they wanted to come back and again I see that it's unfortunate I see that I I said I. Hope everybody there's healthy and. They're all in a room and jumping on each other but then I just think to myself. You know what? Just I just WANNA lose myself in sports these days, and that's the moment. That's it. That's what it's all about Indiana's now wanNA know they're ranked Penn State is. Getting Ready for Ohio state next week that's a huge game. In the big ten huge. Huge game. You'll be ruined for Penn state then. Look I'm rooting for a good game. Honestly I'm I'll be totally honest with you. That's watching Ohio state and Penn state go out. It is like when I watched the mets in the red sox in the eighty six world series, I was rooting for the entire thing to have the huge sinkhole in everybody it. Truly. Truly. So I root for good gain, the big ten will be on full display for the country to see you know I'll I'll check it all out. It's nice to have the full slate of college back. It's weird looking at the standings and see some teams have five six games. Others have two or three, and now WanNa know on the big ten teams but I know that and and for me to I am not GonNa take anything for granted. Yeah. I take nothing for granted as Michigan's plague on Michigan State next week and I know they got crushed. But that you through the records out right there, and then the following week Michigan's going to have to. Handle. Michael Panics there themselves. What? What did I say? I don't know what? It's the perfect day for what just absurd forget the junior of twenty don't forget the junior. Seau before Matthew mcconaughey joins let's do this real quick. This is just a little taste of what's about to come up with love when he comes on the show, this is he appeared almost four years ago next month. He told a story about the genesis of alright. Alright. Alright. Here's where that comes from. So days confused just. Genius film I'm in the right bar the right time. And the guy goes you ever done any acting you might be right just right for this part legendary cash director producer. My comeback and they do what's called a up and wardrobe testing. They're shooting another seen one night. I'm just going to show up director's going to step off the set and come and look and go. Great. I approve. comes. In looks he goes Jesus is waterson. It's great. He goes listen not scheduled to work tonight but we'll be at the top notch drive through and. You think Waterston might want to pick up on the red headed intellectual. And I'm. Sure and he goes shoot it. I'm not. Sure so I go get in the car. But she but I seen ever in a film of your career of my career and I'd been listened to a lot of seventies rock and roll at that time and there was a certain live recording of Jim Morrison concert in Amsterdam or somewhere where he barks the crowd. All right. All right. All right. All right four times really aggressively though I'm not thinking about that but. This comes back. So I'm in the car and I'm like, WHO's my man? I'm nervous about to your APP who's my man whose water semester Roth I'm about my car and I go. Well, I'm in my seventy chevelle there's one I said I'm about getting high I said we'll slater's riding shotgun. You know he's gotTa do Blah. Rolled up. To I said I'm about rock and roll I said well I got news stranglehold in the eight track man there's three and I, hear action. And I look in my mind go and I'm about chicks. I got three out of four. Let's go get the fourth. Alright alright alright. Scores ever said onscreen. I love that. Tells that story in his New Book Green Lights, let's take a quick break when we come back right here on peacock and radio network the Great Matthew mcconaughey, the category winning actor author coming up. How do you banish high rates on Car Insurance? You switch to GEICO during GEICO wing. October is their favorite time of year in the folks over at Geico have been working even harder to cast out high rates and craft just the right policy for you and your family switching to Gyco isn't so scary especially when they could brewers spellbinding savings just for you. So get a quote today at Geiko Dot Com and see how much you could save. No I of newt needed. Happy Gyco we'd everybody. Back here on the NBC. Sports on Peacock Stream in just about fifty seconds time, our radio audience will return and that's welcome in one of our favorite guests that we've been kind enough to have him agreed to call in and also appear in person on the show Matthew mccown, Hey, his new book, Green Lights and I imagine I don't know I one of the most you know Remarkable. Achievements that I like to talk about. For me is that I ever wrote a book. And for me having a book on a shelf just is something the proverbial can't take that away from him. And for me it's truly be you know something on the proudest of really and but I also don't have an academy award. You know what I mean. Either and I also don't have a professional football team. It's two wins this year. Coming off of the Dallas Cowboys. So I don't have any of that good point. I'm not a minister of culture either wonder where it all ranks. And really wonder it all ranks and we're back here on the rich Eisen show simulcast already audiences rejoin. I love having the sky on I'm not just because I think he's on hold hearings introduction he's an academy award winner loved his work as well in some of the best TV. I've ever seen in true detective that earned him an emmy nomination. He's now an author I'm holding his new, Book Green Lights He is Matthew mcconaughey on the rich Eisen show. How are you? Sir? Good Morning Rich You know that Academy Award nominee to win football team mostly you still got time. You know what? I should take the page out of your book. You know there are green lights in front of me Sir. It's all about approach, right? It's all about the approach of life. Am I I'm sorry I have not put into practice what you are preaching in the pages of you're. Doing very well, how are you doing? Relatively real. Well, yeah, we're doing pretty good I'm glad to hear that. So do you WanNa? Do you WanNa start with the football I mean your your team just beat Dallas I mean that's that's that's the that's the good stand right there I know that's that's the good stuff. Money number twenty, five three. Right I know. Football. What division? Stalwart numbers at the end division. It's all about isn't it? So, stay thank we'll take it but I imagine again that that's the good stuff for somebody growing up in the State of Texas when Washington Beats Dallas that's that's that's exactly what you want. That's what you're looking for that stuff you sneak out of church early four to listen to it on the radio to get home and what used to be day radio and T. get home and watch the rest of it. Yes it is two times a year when we go there those are my two of my favorite weekends and in the NFL schedule all year. When we played alice at our place and we blame it. Did you ever get to RFK of you. Did you ever go there Last game at RFK. I haven't mason jar full of Burgundy soil. I ran out on the field and ripped it up out of the in down. No kidding. Yeah, I was also at the first game at Fedex, which was the transition. Sorry that Jackie Cook, which destroyed and I was the first game at Phoenix as well. No. Kidding. So you are you on the field at the last game of our of Kanye like you know I'm GonNa. Take this Burgundy turf and I'm GONNA keep it. That's it. Game Right I knew right where I was going back back left engine. Absolutely. Got That Mason Jar, I remember the one time I saw game at RFK. I was sitting in the upper deck and I had to I had to get up and lean over the railing to see what was going on in the back of the end zone I remember that. On the forget that. I remember being there when you just feel like the place was actually. The whole like don't stadiums on shocks. Yes. the place was moving Yeah. It would bounce back in the day I. Actually Remember all that Matthew mcconaughey here on the rich Eisen show. Let's Let's talk about your book Sir called Green Lights and you know I have. Read a handful of books written by people whose film work and television work and onscreen work. I have enjoyed and You're wondering did they really write it? With you matthew literally three sentences in I'm like, okay he wrote us you know it's your voice from cover to cover no doubt about it. No ghost rider. This was just me. You know I had a ghost rider on it three years ago at I. got the courage to say, Hey, let's go grab my thirty six years of diaries and journals and see if it's worth making into a book but I didn't have occurred to mile. So I got a ghostwriter we met one time and that was going well, and after that one time meeting his boss did not said you are no longer allowed to do for the company worked with New York Times, you can't do any celebrity So he was off the project. So okay, I'll find another ghost rider. Ghost rider out. Loud to my wife, my wife kind of. Looked at me like really I I know what you're saying. You're right. I gotTA write this. It's me. So I took off and went to the desert and fifty two days later I came out with what's basically in this book, and then for the last year and a half editing, and now I declare and it's what you got your hands. No doubt about that. I was going to ask you about you know the process because writing is for me easily the most difficult thing I have to do, but it's the most rewarding. There's no doubt about that. So you tapped out for fifty two days and like sat. In front of a computer and bang this thing out essentially. The first twelve days were were in the desert no electricity just my journal. So it's just me and me not no that trysofi no cell service no email no nothing 'cause the idea was okay. You're going to get order you're GONNA get frustrated. You'RE GONNA want to make a phone call or you're going to answer emails no no outside frequencies coming Ansa said just be stuck with yourself in the last thirty six years you're you're writing and what I came out of that with was seven stacks a really the theme to the book, and it was stories people places prescribes pulling prayers and a whole lot of bumper stickers. I came home with that. and. Then out of that, the next time I left that I found that the green lights which run through all of those things, which is basically, Hey, I've looked at my life I've made some decisions that created green lights from in the future. I've made some decisions that have created red and yellow lights from in future. Obviously, we like the agreements better but I found a little bit of science. Does that faction you know habits that I had when I was catching green much when I was on my frequency habits I had when I was catching yellow lights and red lights and how to get back on the frequency of catching agreements. And in terms of red and yellow lights. What were those that you encounter? I know it's in your. Literal. One here's wanted able can understand death of my father. Big Redline. no doubt about it. Think you argue that when they lose someone like that in a lot they major red light but what I found. Through the book was I wouldn't be the man I am today and my father passed away meeting. There were values that he pushed on me. All right that he taught me and yes, I understood him intellectually. But I, was Kinda half asked him why? Because I knew he was alive he had my back. If I fell down, he would pick me up. Well as moved on quicker we realized OH I. Don't have that safety net anymore all the things you've been trying to be that your dad's been teaching it to be it's time to man up and put those damn things into action. So I became a young man I grew up into a man much much sooner, which was a good thing because of his passing. So that would be a green light asset from their big red light of his moving on. Well you also tell a story about you know you figuring out that you aren't cut out for being a lawyer or didn't WanNa do it as badly as you want it to do obviously what you do for a living now and Your. Dad's response was in fact something you just said seconds ago. What did he say to you? I mean everyone I have these moments they can go back and my dad couldn't have said three better words to me. I decide one day after my into my sophomore year in college I do not want to go to law school, which is the only thing I was ever expected zoo or expect it up myself and I'm GonNa Call My dad and who's paying for my school and tell him I want to go to film school well, I think this is not going to go well because I grew up in a blue collar family work your way up with the health film school boy. That's a hobby. Maybe that's not a real job. I thought he was going to say so I call him one night and then pick out the time seven, thirty, six, pm he'll be home from work. He'll had dinner he's having a beer with mom they're laughing that'll be a great time to get it right I call them up I. Don't want to go to law school when film school. On the line agos. Be. Sure. That's what you WANNA. Do I said yes? Sir. Was a five second pause and then he said these three words. Don't have that. And, he sent me a launch with that. So not only did he give me approval and say it's okay. He gave me a kick in the backside and said, you're GONNA do it. You'd better do a damn well. It was just what I need to hear. Well, obviously, you have not half acid that's for sure and some other stories I've got Matthew mcconnahey here the author of Green Lights, which is available where all books are sold right now great stories great insight, and you call in approach book about approaching life and you mentioned bumper stickers moments ago you're not kidding you've. Put. Actual bumper stickers that have come across your eye gate to use a Michael. Irvin phrase throughout life I have I've got three of them right here. I'm going to read them off and then each one you just tell me what it means and why you put it in the book. Okay. Here's the first one up If you're high enough, the sun is always shining. Allowed that one. That one everyone thinks about marijuana. Exactly your scientific fact if you're cloudy to sunny, the sun's shining okay. That's it That's all whatever and I love the fact that everyone thinks that goes with. Men If you're high enough the sun's Shining. So that's the whole play on the words. What everybody thinks then I go back to. So it's based in fact, in science of that might actually be enhanced by the other. It's possible. Say it. Now. The to go part and parcel. I. I've got another bumper sticker here. It's not a risk unless you can lose the fight. What's yet that one? It's really We risk all the time and there's things we don't want to do with who took some curves you get over that and you go. Yeah but. What would have been the consequences of failed? Out. Have Been. Okay. Well, that's not really a risk. So we were measuring our risk going, hey, what's a real risk of true risk? Is when you're going if I. If I don't get what I want. If. I. Lose I there their consequences it's GonNa to cost me and I think that's it. That's really the question is asking me what are the we can risk. We take win or lose. We're GONNA have consequences they are going to cost us and the greatest risk I've taken my life cost me. Either by losing them or by winning them so that's that's what that means. So kick in his head, can you really lose the fight because that's a real risk so what's the riskiest move you've made careerwise Matthew, which probably when I you know coming off of four years of of Rom coms and not getting any other dramatic work that I wanted I took the. Risk of taking off work and taking a sabbatical from all work and everything Hollywood for two years and I was getting offered anything I did not know about ever work in Hollywood again and it was a time like I said, I was not getting the dramatic roles I wanted. So because I couldn't do what I wanted I just quit doing what I was doing and. That was a risk because, hey, there's plenty of people that want to do it i. do do very well step right in my shoes to do those shows movies I was doing and they did So after two years went by a no work whatsoever in Hollywood and Migo on coming to hold out, I'm not going to pull the parachute. I'm not going back. I'm not going back until I get what I want all of sudden. Matthew mcconnahey became he knew good idea in Hollywood and I started getting off the roles like Lincoln lawyer killer Joe Magic Mike. We got odd true detective. DALLAS, buyers club and went on that run. So then what's what's the riskiest roll out of all those then? That you. Of those yes You know I. I'll bring this up and I don't know the risky for this matter. True -tective. I remember you gotTa. Remember back two detectives came out. We made that there were not a lot of Hollywood film actors that have careers like Woody Harrelson I do that word. Jump jumping into doing the limited television series. So I remember the script was so good character so good but there were real questions are around me by agents step later this is almost small screen TV. You sure you want to do this. And the script was so good. I said that I said I don't give a damn what screen it's on the story so good the characters are hot. I'm doing in a okay. Well, it's on well after that work. If you look back after true detective that really helped open the floodgates of TV and limited series becoming the new. Arguably the best drama out there on the vet. Platform. For drama. No there's no doubt about that and and I've asked you this before I'll ask it again. Is there any shot? Of. You and maybe what he getting back together and doing another season of. Detective any chance? Do you think on this? Happens. Down it. Will work with NICK PITS A lot. Oh, the creator to detective war on something that's completely original in pendant of of true detective. But I must say I'm you know in the way you say that I'm guessing you miss it I two that was my favorite show on TV I watched it every Sunday night like everyone else I missed that show I. Love. That series? Well I, Miss Virtually every Soliloquy that came out of your mouth. Matthew of the honest with you. Know. What the greatest detective in the world. And also, who could make anything out of a tin can as well. Out of it in Kansas but I tell you the story of those interrogations James. Gopher. So you know you know interesting getting interrogated, right? I mean it goes it it it intercut through the series, but we sat down and shot those in one sitting and it was twenty. Eight. Pages. We were scheduled I believe shoot those like over four days. Sixteen hours done nailed it get Outta here the page. What's next with nailed every single one we were there have been there for like fourteen hours and everybody was tired and I. I've been working on those twenty eight pages for for months leading up to that moment. Well, they show Lee shot the the other side tuned Tara Gators I for the first few hours and then turn the camera. On. My own rusting goals. And I sat there and hammered out twenty eight pages of that dialogue in one sitting and it was it was awesome because after twelve hours we were all white and everyone looked up. Okay we're tired. We GonNA come back tomorrow and I was like not a change. In this zone press record were finishing this baby and we did we finish it in one sitting. I. Guess That's a green light. Right set a green light that. Except Walnut night. Man? I got one last bumper sticker. Common Sense is like money in health once you have it. You have to work to keep it. What's that one? True and that's true. You know what? I mean. Common Sense. We have it and you know you have been able to run into quite a lot of people. I have my life One of my mentors are the most common sense like my oldest brother or just Cheney. Elders that are really up to and I it's true. You know the more you know you get life, go get more educated things get more complicated and you got more options you try to say, oh, that's a reasonable revolve said, and you can look up and go man I've lost my my common sense. We can explain our way out of anything but you know the fanciest words don't make up for a good a good dose of common sense sometimes so you got to work to. Keep it especially when you become successful when you become successful, you gotTa Watch out the June get insulated from the realities of the world and how human humanity works and have your feet on the ground because people great commonsense. Have Their feet on the ground in no no matter what the situation and people great commonsense can sum up the situation. So quick you know what I mean. I love to use words I'll explain it beautiful soliloquy and then I can talk to buddy on ago. Well, you know If if if the great story in the book about my brother calling the one, eight, hundred number to get it, get it a is business messages and he called in to get messages and the lady goes that account has been down for two years and he goes crazy. Oh, I got two years. You know how much many millions of dollars I've lost from not taking nine my see my business calls and he's yelling yelling young my brother rooster whose full of common sense. tells me brother Pat. Pat Now who's yelling about not not not have an answer as at work because I'm take I'm suing you for ten dollars for all the calls you've missed for two years and then my brother Rooster Simpson he goes what do you think the judge is going to say when he finds out, you hadn't even called in and to. Commonsense My Gosh and then there's so many other great stories that I I don't know if this is common sense as well. You laying a bunch of money on the bills and Super Bowl twenty-eight against the cowboys I don't know if that's much common sense you might have been might have been. Might have been too close with the sun is always shining I'm not sure matthew. CONGRATS on the book. CONGRATS on the book man it truly is you through and through and we literally touched on an infinitesimal amount of the stories that you tell straight from your voice, and you also voice the Audio Book version as well. Green lights were all books are sold Matthew I always enjoy our chats. Thanks for calling in I, Q rich keep it up next time right back at you. That's Matthew mcconaughey right here on the rich Eisen show. Sixteen straight hours I will not I haven't watched that I wanNA. Watch that again, the only problem is it's tough to sleep after that man. The old true detective has season one of true detective. would be all in on that. It truly is with some of the greatest television that's ever been made. Season one of true detective. And his scenes are hypnotic and Woody Harrelson as well. Oh my gosh. And some some great stories in here. So everybody should check out this book Green Lights. We'll take a break Chris, Brockman news update has some great news out of Washington D. C.. And head coach there I think you can. Pick up what I'm putting down. Absolutely that's coming up. To. This was coming to. Start, paying all join me every week for the Michael Irvin podcast. We'll give you the floor. I Ip p experience I'm talking everything football to fashion I will be chopping it up with playmakers, headline makers, and I am throwing haymakers I'm the VP. They. Joe Miss. New episodes of the M. Ip the Michael podcast every Thursday on Apple podcasts podcast one in spotify. Taking you right up to Brooker from another and then PF t pm Wrap up a day that begins everyday with pro football talk live, and then our buddies at the Dan Patrick Show leads into us. That's the way we roll on NBC sports on peacocks streaming now, and every single day very excited a beer very, very excited love running into people saying that they get us. They see my mom's able to talk in her Roku I want the rich Eisen show on Pico same. Mom Watches on the APP. Does she really? Yes. Yeah. That's fantastic on her IPAD. That's great. My mom watches on TV I mean what are you? Saying I was just pointing out my mom also watch or going in something about each other's right now or what am I being being to if you being pretty aggressive Half migrates my greenland watches better. That's much. Coming out. Talking about my mother. Ex. Saying. Hey. We're back here show with Matthew mcconaughey. He's great great. Great it's always it's so easy to talk to him. Put something on twitter real quick. Yes. Or from the last time he was in Studio Jessica He Kinda told me how he came up with the character wilder. Sincere. That's on twitter right now too. So one minute fantastic. Put it right there at richeisenshow and the it being your eyeballs and so many stories I mean number stories that are in this book. Fifty two days. I. Would not know if I how to spend twelve days without electricity just by myself and my thoughts how many could you make? You're not gonNA make it twelve. I couldn't even make twelve minutes. You. Kidding me. You, guys go crazy when the WI fi goes down for three seconds for my God where do is Talk Show. Rich I don't know anyone who talks on the phone more than you. Do Stings here. Understand. You got a lot of people to talk to you about. A you talk on the phone a lot. Well, what are you talking about? I'm just saying talk on the phone a lot until you take a lot of phone calls each day right but am I now this is important. Just. Like Hey, how you been what's going on like you must hear what I'm talking about since I'm in front of I'd be I know the the amount of pacing I do when I target. But now the number, the volume of calls I've just is such a just an observation not criticizing I'm just saying you take a lot of phone calls today, but you can't sit make it seem like I'm just chitchatting. No, you're not just like catching up with your. Business but. Man, I, just I don't ever talk on the phone. Do you want to do battle on how many emails I've got unread my phone right now I mean you got him when he got I got you beat. I'm at twenty, two, thousand all you've got me beat twenty, two thousand basically if I send you, an email is no shot that you sit none no, no, I get it. Teaches went higher register. You get it but you don't. This is my personal email account. The business is you're busy now I forgot it. You're all buttoned up up to the top of your neck your up business email I got eight thousand under the hell. Do we get on this? I mean it's the great part about this show rich just get places. Yes. Deed Tangent before we get to your news update I wanNA give a shout out to one of the best in our business in terms of being human. A two-time coach of the year also shows you how good his profession that he is. A friend of the program I would like to say head coach of the. Washington football team. Ron Rivera. Within twenty four hours of putting the beat down on the arrivals from Dallas. He completed his final chemotherapy treatment for the cancer that he was diagnosed with in August. And he tweeted out a video of him leaving in this. This is all great. Walking down a long way of the people who have been giving him his care celebrating him finishing up. His Treatment, they're all wearing rivera strong t shirts. As the Washington football team tweeted out this video of the coach walking down the hallway. It's a different kind of victory Monday I'm getting choked up man. I'm getting choked up. Balkan. Recognition of courage and perseverance from our team here we're gonNA keep this back. Have everyone signed it in practice. Such a good human than ring, the bell as he leaves. Finished up with his chemo and we cannot wait to have him completely cancer free. And his tweet that he sent out. How it started and how it's going on the left is how it started where he slumped in his chair. I'm assuming receiving his first chemo treatment on the left and on the right there he is standing upright ringing the bell as he's leaving the institute. You go coach Rivera you go. Send it over to you Chris Brockman News Update here on this otherwise busy. Monday. With a report of the day's news from the world of sports entertainment someone who is not a journalist or newsman by any definition of the word whatsoever Chris Brockman over there, updating some of the injuries from yesterday in the national football we all know Odell Beckham towards ACL. So he's expected to miss the rest of this season bummer news for him last night Sunday Night Football Chris Carson left the game in the. First half of the foot injury The Seattle Times reporting that it's their understanding that it's not considered significant p Carroll said still waiting on the MRI results to see how much time he could miss could be as little as one week could be as many as five weeks. So keep an eye on that Kenyan drake injured his ankle yesterday x rays were negative but an MRI just in case is coming later today. deebo Samuel. No. Update on him left the game in the hamstring injuries been battling injuries. All season sure has I was just looking at looking doubt. Literally turning the corner handing people just a number of times where he comes around the corner and then the pad snapping he's just so big and violent. We're using him as a running back more than a receiver yesterday and speaking of Jeff Wilson they're running back with having a great game yesterday. Yes. Hurt his ankle on that touchdown run and he did not return. So He's Wearing see how serious that is Tim Patrick for the broncos day to day with the hamstring full Lindsay's and concussion protocol as his Andy Dalton. Obviously, and Deonte Johnson banged up his leg again for the steelers after having a pretty good game Christian McCaffrey fantasy owners waiting to see when he is going to be back for the panthers considered a long shot to play in week eight. So you're GONNA have to wait another week I, think for Christian McCaffrey good news for my Davis owner so For Mike Davis Fantasy football one more week and Mike Davis at least Kramer is grabbing the hands of the pushing the car. Salesman. Still, gas in the car. From Ike Davis still it was mostly just three weeks. On. Honestly. The only thing remotely close to Mike Davis's. Fantasy value continuing and continuing continuing is the story of Hanukkah. were, the oil burned for eight days the oil is like burning for almost. Six fantasy weeks at this point. He is close to the fantasy Hannukah Story Mike Davis. Who knew seriously, he's like the Maccabi of fantasy football runners. I duNNo. You lost me there. Look it up by all the members of the tribe know exactly. A story of Hanukkah. Aid as the oil burned by that? Yeah. Weeks cities mentioned story Hannukah. ESPN, reporting speak fantasy disappointments this year, Evan Ingram of the giants ESPN saying the teams have reached out about his availability via trade. Maybe As in the long term plan but. Offers a third round pick I. Think you're taking that I don't know man. Kevin Stefanski Brown coach Nick Chub could return after the week nine bide dealing with that knee injury. Okay Cam Newton on me I today said that he admitted if he keeps playing poorly his job could be in jeopardy as team starting quarterback although book Bill Belichick said today Camp Absolutely. Of course, he's a starter team started. Of course he is. What are they gonNA, unless I would still trade Kampfer fifth round pick unless you go like what two and six do you do you go? New England and four right now and schedules not great buffalo at jets. Baltimore, but the problem is after buffalo and before at jets is the trade deadline if you're going to sell, that's when you sell and if you're Dallas and you are staring at the way, Dalton has played for the last two weeks. Do you call up? Bella check and say, what do you think and then bills like okay. I'm I'm I'm not there's no hot seats around here. I'll just go throughout the rest of the season. I think we're starting something that has no chance of actually happening, but we could keep talking about it. What we do show some of it. Yesterday I mean a couple of the guys that cover the pats threw it out there. Could. Be. Very good. And we go. The you have nothing. Chad in Cincinnati let's sneak in his phone call before we wrap up I got about a minute for Hmo I wanted to get you on here. I know you've been on hold for. Problem wouldn't last night that game was awesome as fan you can just imagine the emotional roller coaster from the. Robo cop chases down Buddha Baker. Mayfield go. But I got to thinking Richard I wanted to ask you 'cause I watched that jet skiing yesterday. You had your choice right now what would you take a jet super bowl a Michigan? National. Championship would the Knicks winning. The finals would make you happier. We're at a time show. Joining. What a way to go ahead The Knicks are gone. So it's really a toss up between the jets and the in the Wolverines Michigan would make you a yeah, I think Michigan would make me absolutely happiest. Do We beat house? We have to beat Ohio state on the way to. Settle. All family business is and that's the answer Chad. Okay, thanks to put me on the spot though I'll take A. Where's the dotted line for that? Do I can assign for that right now the corleones baptism by the way Collin Decay Metcalf robocop is not a bad choice. That did look like something out of a science fiction movie chasing him down like the Terminator. T to t to the Robert Patrick. jenks. Michigan. Man. Robert Patrick. Robert Patrick Mackay shot out the bobby cannot wait to see next week Michigan versus Michigan State with future number one overall draft choice Joe Milton. Pump the brakes I'm sorry I called him. I called them came late he looks like. All right for everybody on peacock stay tuned. We're GONNA, take you to brother from another but for all of us on the radio side, thank you for joining us here on the rich Eisen show. We'll chat with you after this Monday night or tonight from La with the holidays coming up we'd like to offer you little something special and all we're asking in return is a few moments. 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Presidential Preference

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

04:13 min | 2 months ago

Presidential Preference

"Geico knows there many reasons why you ride from the exciting adventure of the daily commute to the peace of mind that geigo always has your back with twenty four seven access to claim service and legendary customer service but pamela month had one reason in particular my skin is extremely averse to most fabrics except for the soft buttery feeling of leather thankfully. I found my clan of leather lovers in the biking community. It's been life changing geigo motorcycle. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Hi i'm host robin roberts and on a new podcast from radio. Covert nineteen immunity in our community. We'll hear from americans on the frontlines and the doctors and medical experts who convinced them and their loved ones to roll up their sleeves and get vaccinated. Listen to kobe. Nineteen immunity in our community on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast. We can do this guys. The presidential election isn't until twenty twenty four but it looks like Dwayne the rock. Johnson has a jump on the competition. That's right. According to a poll of potential voters he was the presidential preference of forty six percent of the over. Thirty thousand people survey angelina jolie. A no angelina jolie was next to lead the free world with thirty percent with with over winfrey ought to be the president president to be prepared to lead a julie. So it was. The rock was dwayne. The rock johnson then angelina jolie. Now i'm talking about oprah winfrey. She got twenty seven percent. Meanwhile participants were also asked about matthew mcconaughey. Hey you know. He's thinking about it seriously. Now running for governor of texas throwing his hat into the ring to replace governor greg abbott so not he get angelina jolie go down there take mahboob back but is he. Is he a good guy. Matthew mcconaughey ryan alright. Alright yeah we know his acting politics. I would like a member baytown. Yeah kim wrong all right. We'll be back at thirty three minutes after the hour. With more of steve harvey morning show right after this. You're listening to morning. Show me me me me me but also you the payroll fast. Forwards is favourite foreign film. Powder doughnut okay. What's my line. The only line i see here. The script is get options based on your budget with the name your price tool from progressive man. It's a tongue twister I'm sorry i'm going to need a few more minutes. Boom this wall wrist bovis while risk the name your price tool only from progressive the our. Nfl comatose coxswain risk affiliates pricing coverage match limited by state law driver. And in my new podcast many questions. I explore on our similarities by asking people the same seven questions questions. About what makes us happy what curious. About what lovely to us this season. I'll be speaking with the brilliantly talented actor. Viola davis epic firefighters. Front man. dave girl actor and writer. Alan cumming wonderful female director. Sam taylor johnson and investigative reporter ronan farrow among others ingathering. Different answers to the same questions from a variety of people. I wanted to examine how similar and also how individual what inspires us. What makes us grow. What makes us wonder listening. Subscribe to many questions on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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THE CONNECT: Trailer

Villains

01:35 min | 11 months ago

THE CONNECT: Trailer

"Hello I'm Jason Concepcion. Too, much energy to start with twenty percent less okay. Hello. I'm chasing zone Either five percent either direction either direction and CIONE, let's do that one. Let's do that one. Can you just let me do it just? Concepcion and I'm Shea Serrano. PODCAST coming out. It's called the connect, and it's cool each week. Shane will talk to movies and the theme that connects them for example for our debut episode, which comes out July. Twenty second team is work friends I'm talking about one thousand nine hundred ninety office space about three friends who worked at a technology company and I'm talking about one thousand nine hundred. Hundred, eighty three scarface, which is about two best friends, just trying to make their way to the top of Miami's very competitive cocaine industry. Another theme we'll have is mean mentors. I'm talking about Fletcher from Whiplash Jason's talking about Miranda from the Devil Wears Prada another theme. How about Matthew mcconaughey doesn't understand outer space I'm talking about contact. Jason is talking about interstellar. Why'd you do that? Of talking about juice Jason's talking about ladybird. Categories bids and contest. It's a whole thing and it's GonNa. Be Great, or it's going to be terrible. But I'm excited. Find out me to subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts.

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Matthew McConaughey

Just Getting Started with Rich Eisen

50:05 min | 3 months ago

Matthew McConaughey

"Hey everybody welcome to the first edition of my new podcast. Just getting started i am. You're humble host rich eisen And i'm thrilled to be here On a new platform with westwood one. And i'm thrilled to here with a new pod and you know when it first came before me place before me about doing another podcast. Doing something new with my new partner of westwood one and the template was completely wide open. I sat down. And i thought to myself. What do i want to be about what i want to bring to the equation. And how could it be different than what i do. Every day would unfortunate to do every day on a show with my own name on it which you can also get a podcast right here on westwood one podcast version of the rich eisen show or what i've done on. Nfl network or espn. Before that. how can i do something different while also doing what i love to do. Which is interviewing people and talking to people and getting to know them and having stories told that you would like to hear in placing you in my shoes. Which is what i've been doing with. Nfl network since it started in two thousand three taking you along with me and a journey through the world of the nfl and meeting players and coaches and talking about the game that we all love and so on and so forth. And i sat down. And i decided. Let's do a pod about origin stories. I'll interview people and get from them stories about how they started on their journey. Because i can not turn away from what's going on in the real world these days and what is going on in this world outside of my sports world that i usually live in or the toy department which is what my graduate school professor at journalism school in north western called it. I work in the toy department. I talk about wins and losses in real life does crashing from time to time. But i wanna talk real life stuff with real people who happen to be people that you may know because you like their work or you watch their work or you follow what they've done in their world of business you follow. You know what they've done to make themselves successful and find out about their origin stories because everybody started off somewhere. And everybody's out of doors slamming their face. Everybody's been told. No everybody's had some self down everybody and that includes me and throughout this show this pod. I'll share my stories about how i got started and the doubts that i had and the belief in myself that i've always had no matter how many times i've heard no and no matter. How many times. I've had a door literally slammed in my face. And hopefully if you are somewhere listening to this taking in this pod or watching it that you'll take something out of it if you are trying to figure out what's next for you or you're in a spot that you never thought you'd be because of what the hell's happened in this world or if you are going through the pandemic and you're getting through it and you've decided once you are through it or once you feel like you've come to the water's edge that you wanna try something else but you're too concerned about the risks or you're wondering if it's the right thing to do and you have a family you've got a mortgage you've got a lot going on or you're trying to build up enough to get something in your life that you feel that you need or even better deserve that. Maybe there are some stories here that you can take as you go along. So that's what just getting started is gonna be and my first guest is a perfect. I guest because not only of how he is and how entertaining historians are but his journey is quite something and he told it in his book green lights. And we'll talk about all that with matthew mcconaughey on the inaugural episode of just getting started. Pleased to have my first guest right here on. Just getting started is one of my favorite guests from my show that i do every day with westwood one. The rich eisen show. He's the academy award winning and golden globe winning actor and also author of this new york times bestseller green lights right here. The author the man himself matthew. Mcconnahey how are you matthew. Goodrich is and get to see him in. Always good to talk to you to see you as well. What's going on with you. How's life in general for your other one's pretty good. We're down here in texas trying to unfreeze. We lost power. We lost power. Water pipes froze then when they froze waterpipes busted so we got a lot. A lot of water travels down in texas. Need plumbers for some time were navigating. Don't together benefits real good talent coming out. We're gonna raise some money to help out some people that need it right now. Knock on wood. I wanna learn a little bit more about that. But you're again one of my favorite guests some people to talk to when i just have a few minutes with you and for me to start my new pod and it's about just getting started i just described to the audience. Essentially that i want this pod to somebody something portable in this day and age were obviously so many lives have been turned upside down and so many people are wondering if the path that they're on the path they take and you're perfect for this man again. Your book green lights as you said is a love letter to life and it's about turning red lights in yellow lights into green lights and just about origin stories. And you're just a perfect person to ask the general sense about just getting started and how you got started. What doubts did you have when you were first. Starting out yourself. At many doubts you said something really cool out of an earth. Put this way you want to give people something portable meaning. What retake with us when we're out of class. What can we take with us when we're outside of our church or whatever that is when we're not in our comfort zone that we can have in our hip pocket in our souls and go yet. I can use this approach in life. And it'll help me navigate and gets a good way to put portable doubts for me man. I've calibrated recalibrated thousands of times. I've had grand plans. That i thought would lead pipe cinch. There ain't no way this go wrong. And either imploded or the world exploded and for me and i sat there going. Oh jeez i've also had written many headlines. I before i had any idea housing to get there and lived the story to and had successes that way. I've also had many times where. I just hardest part about me going into what i was going to do. Is just to tie and shoes. Get out the damn door. Jump off the cliff. Figure out a fly on the way down. Seems like that's sort of the art of life making plans and then knowing that change is gonna come anyway. The unknown in doubts of just knowing the answer. That's something that i think that we all have. We want to know the answer. Can you make tangible. Can you tell me what. I'm going to take this risk. Can you tell me. I wanna see my reward can okay. Now i see it clearly now know well reward. Don't really like that. Even if we have an idea of what they are. We're going into something. They aren't what we thought they were when we get there anyway so i think the doubt is in what is it. What is an accomplishment. Gonna be there's even unknowns when we're very secure about where we're going and that's not all the time so you can have more doubts if you're only seeking a result or less dashiell lean into the comfort of doubting going. Hey i'm not about the result. I'm going to enjoy the process of doing what i need to do. And how. I look up one day. I'll see where i am and if we do that over and over that sort of leading into the doubt folks who might not have read your book could you do cover this ground in your book And just seeing you know you being you having the trophies in the in the case and also you know a book that's a bestseller and also you know. You're the ceo of austin fc a soccer team and they see all That's just some the trappings of success and that you were always meant to be an actor always thought you were going to be actor to start and that wasn't the case for you now and look. I say earlier calibrated recalibrated many times. I thought i was going to be a lawyer. That's all i ever talked about in our household. I was a good debater. I could make a good argument. That's what you're going to be. A lawyer. And i think about done that could have gone been somewhat successful lawyer but come my sophomore year in college. I'm not sleeping. Well the idea of in a lawyer the idea of going to school full more years after school and basically been able to have my imprinting. Society thirties did not appeal to me. I've been writing short stories. I wanted to the storytelling business. But now i got a call my dad and asked him permission to cease paying for school coming from blue collar. Family i come with an idea of working in the arts for a living. I thought was that with a lot. Of what the hell are you talking about boy and instead. He flipped the script on me when i told him on. Films goals at law school. Don't half ass so he gave me not only improve. We gave me a kick in the backside freedom accountability and responsibility to do that. Even then i didn't know. I mean i bring this up in the book and this is going to someone inch. I think your first question is well doubted. There's always dow but i will say this. I say this in the book. Sometimes it's not what decision we make. Just make one commit to the damn thing because we always do this or should do this. Is it hers him now and all of a sudden we can look up next week and we're still waiting and we look next month and we're doing next year also decade goes on we're still in limbo going. Wow i don't know sometimes it's just like men pick one that actually which decision you make may not even be as important as jumping into one in committing and if you jump into a decision commit to it quickly reveals whether it was the right decision or not or it reveals another option for that. Maybe you didn't even think about so. I don't know i've been decent taken risk and rolling the dice you know in my life. I don't like that feeling that a lot of us are in right now. We all in limbo right now. What's the future hold. Where am i going. We've all been disrupted so sometimes though it is about just making a choice commitment to it and you'll find out later. Did you ever gonna door slammed in your face. I have been told this. This is a very good thing manager. Told me this in this the coolest way to get the door slammed face. I've ever heard she goes matthew. Shut that door and get on the other side of it. They a cool way to tell somebody to get the hell out of here. Shut that doing on the other side of it for me when i was. I just getting started in my in my career. The number of times that i was hoping to get a job somewhere and the person in charge told me i didn't have it. Roy moore told me. I didn't have what it takes or and i i had to sit there and added truly just look within and just say you know what i still believe that what i believe i can do is something i can achieve and it does sound something simple. You know what i mean. It does sound simple but it is. It happens to everybody. Does i've gotten certain jobs or successes by failing five times in a row. And i got the job because the person who succeeded the first time with standing around going. Well i'm done you're gonna pick may and then all of a sudden whoever's doing the highlands like wait. Who's charlie hustle down here who keeps failing. Make up again doing it again. I like i want this guy not have gotten by failing more often and consistently. I've had some bright ideas that she was held didn't work. Let me tell you a funny story about a movie i got. I was going to time of my career early on where. I wasn't getting a lot of jobs and i was too tight and i was too conservative. I wasn't taking risks. And i was for the first time learning about my craft of acting. Well as we all know if you had the instincts or something which i did when you then go to learn about it there's a. There's an awkward time there where you're intellectualize what you actually have instincts to do. That's the time i was in. So i get this job this blind off on this job. No edition needed. Come on in your. You're playing this role of this drug. Lord on the on the southern border texas and mexico and the colleges come by you. Don't pay your judge you shoot among them and take it. Is that bad guy role. I've been really tight in my auditions lately. I'm gonna go back to how i was when i first started acting when i had no script when i didn't know what i was doing where i would just improvise waterson days confused. I just knew my man and didn't said what i would do. So get this idea on this script of this this job. I said i'm not gonna read the script. I'm not gonna read the scene. I'm not gonna read any of that. I'm just gonna know my manning of do what. I would do the right idea so show up. I don't read the script. I'm on sat on the market back to shoot the scene sudden. Pa mangoes mitch. Mcconnell would you like to see the sides to read the sides of the c- i said sure. Obviously i started feeling a little insecure about my plan. Because now i gotta page one. Two three makes four four page model by my guy in the scene. Oh my god in spanish now. I like this beat. Sweat comes up on the back of my head going. Oh no and i remember saying no one in particular field that can i get twelve minutes here. Twelve minutes is not too long to inconvenience the crew but maybe long enough to learn a four page monologue spanish because i took symmetric spanish in the eleventh grade. Well it was not enough time to learn it. I came back twelve and said it did the same. Never been able to watch it to embarrassed. I don't know what i did but on the way home from work that day i pulled over and just start a ball in southern us. Bam embarrassed about this bright idea and my total lackluster idea to go. I'm not going to prepare and from that day on. I learned about preparation from that day on. I said okay. So that was a door slam face that i slammed the door in my own face shirt i brought from that day on. I said man out prepare people now. What comes next right after that. I get offered a role like the number eight role in a time to kill smaller role weeks work. I made record before meeting director joel schumacher about time to kill. I'm not only reading the scenes the script from my character. I'm reading the book and after reading the book. I'm like well. Who's this guy. Jake against the lead cat. That's the guy. I want to be that meeting with him about this other smaller role and i have the gall to say. I think i should play jake games. He laughs nobody. That's ever gonna happen. Well it ended up working out. Because i was so. Dan prepared coming into that meeting. That i was able to plant the seed and tell him why ashby baked j. gas which ended up happening. I saw the film. You didn't speak a lick of spanish. That film i told you no. No no no not at all. No no i just. I was just remarking again that something born out of experience. You that's portable right. That's something that you took that you remove that you you carry with you and then you unpack it and success is born out of it right in zone of not only. Hey i know what. I wanna do succeed born out of initially. Hey i know. I don't ever want to feel that way again. Hey that embarrassment that oh man that that was heavy so sometimes we talked about this. We don't know what we wanted to or exactly who we are. But we have a lot more clear about who we what. We don't want to do what we don't wanna feel again so by process of elimination figuring out that stuff in our life. You know that that stuff that we go. That doesn't feed me. Tried over and over again. It doesn't pay me back. Let's get rid of that. Let's get rid of those friends. Those places that approach to life and then process limitation. We end up with more of what feeds us. I love it man. That's amazing so have you not watched many of your films back. I'll usually seeing steph premier. Man watch it and never really watch it again. Yeah and plus premier viewings weird anyway because it was much expectation on a been a year way. You're nervous you watch and every scene. So yeah i've got a. I've got a lot of films to watch again. I love that so you're nervous watching some stuff back when you're seeing it for the first time. Plus you're obviously this is when you're in a room full of other people seeing it for the first time i mean that has got to be i. Just you know the self-doubt. I i hear you man man. I mean look. I've never done a movie or given a performance that lived up to my expectations. Never where does that come from. I don't know. But i can't say this private last ten years that doesn't cause me angst that actually makes me go. Well good did it get close and if it got close bravo. That's as good as it gets. I don't think it looking at it. Like whoa great. You're never going to have the perfect game. There's no such thing. So that's that makes me say. Oh that's kind of what life's about we're all chasing yet. We never going to get there. And that's the point. I think if i'm never reach exceed the grass always but still be. I'm still somewhat satisfied. When i go see work and i go good job or like that movie. I'll feel satisfaction but it's never reached the actual level of going like. Wow that was the one that was perfect. Even one of the oscar even dallas buyers club that. That's not one of them now. I mean cook close awesome but different in different aspects. Better in some ways. I thought was going to be but also things that i missed that my imagination was hoping it was going to be from the movie to the performance. And that's one of my favorite films. Just want to pause my conversation with matthew for a moment to talk about my sponsors. That are making this inaugural edition of just getting started that much more special thrilled to have audible onboard man. 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In life we're so result oriented like you gotta have the ultimate result started. The results never really what you think it's going to be. And so we wanna read certain mountaintop. And we feel like we're gonna get there whether it's personally relationship career we feel like off. I could just get this then. I'll be happy then. i'll be content. Then i'll go ta. I did it and we get there. And there's no ta moment will all of a sudden. There's another mountain there to climb all we got a call an audible or we gotta go. There's another trail and so it's a little bit of the old. Hey that's the journey not the destination if we can still check things off on the way of going up. Did that nice okay. Did that one nice good job. Who did that one bogeyed on now. Now that failed okay. We're still in the game still dealing and say never gonna. We're never going to visit. What are the best rounds of golf the new ever plays. I know the best friends i've ever played is when i walk eighteen green thinking i'm going to the next t box and i have to be reminded. That the rounds. Oh i is. When it's a wrap and i say okay again to see you tomorrow. And they go. No that's a film rap. Everyone's going home for good. I'm like oh really. Because i was head down in the process so much that i didn't know the game was over. Best win win win. The teams not choke the proverbial finish line. Not when they're going. Oh my gosh. Ten seconds on the five. What am i gonna do know still playing the game. Bo jackson didn't cross the goal line ran through the end zone up the tunnel. Pets here and out out the door. I love that. Yeah no doubt about that. What is your your golf game matthew handicap. But i used to be four. I was a foreign highschool. Check this out. This pisses people off of four holes to the first two older ones. I had eleven days apart. That pisses burg offers. And then like really. I know i bet. You've had four holes in one. Yeah oh that's unbelievable. I ever. I haven't come close. But i do keep trying and it's always that one shot at the end at seventeen or eighteen just keeps you coming back. Are you gotta hit it. Hit at pure exactly where you want. One time you're like because it's so simple you know. This is the golf straight analogy talking about about things we do in life calibrating. A- hadn't played golf. You look down. Sometimes it goes dude. Your stance is like way wide. Open no lined up here. You look down the club denmark. Oh my gosh. i'm like a foot open. What was the dude. That's why we're slicing the ball. So you get it straight straight now started. Hit the ball straight. Start to feel so good. You start to overcompensate a little bit move that left foot for next thing you know you're duck cook and you don't know what happened and saying look at your stance you're back six inches to the right. You've got such close dance. You're snapping everything. So we can also overcompensate what starts go well with us in our life and it consisted. Balance seems well. I guess again before you get to the here and now here on the show just i i mean just thinking of some of your performances that i thought was pitch perfect. I mean they're just there. There's many of them The wolf of wall street for me is like every single scene you showed up in it was dominated and i'm wondering how did you approach that that role well in that one i look for what i call launchpad line in in all my roles i don't always find them but sometimes they just screaming headline neon letter. I read them. And i go. What i mean by launch line is a line. look at my go. whoa who is that. I can unpack if that character on play and sees the world through that lend. There's a fricking five thousand eight book on that person. Meaning what's in days confused. He has three lines written one of ms. That's what i love about those high school girls man. I get older but they stay the same age. I'm like well. That's that characters. Pov day there's a whole book that tells me a lot about who that guy is about everything else. He doesn't his life right now. Let's get off wall street. The original seen one of the things that scripted win the the for care leonardo So what's the whole game baptist. This brokered thing he goes go kane hookers and i went. Who is that. go if that guy doesn't mean that as a joke if he actually make up and let me tell you why i'm like. There's a book on that guy that tells you when you eat what he drinks where he goes if he's married what he does the night in the morning and so i started unpacking that guy and i said he's a rapper is what he is. He's got a wrap here and he is consistently in the plus. So we started to add things. And i go interview all these different brokers that were around that time and every time when i would say so was it or iraq. They go no. You'd like okay. okay. So i got the joke underneath bislogic hooker logic and then i started riffing writing stuff and then i and then the rigid seem long but i made it about three times as long and what i wrote in the united showed up on day instead. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do it and i did it. In scorsese liked it. And leo liked it and there we go. That's it so now after everything that you've done i would imagine that once you've done something like that you do look out of the saudi arrive to see of scorsese's happy. I've only been at work with the great monsters as he wants. But here's what you here's one of the great things i learned about him. He loves funny and he sits over the monitor. And if you see. Is those shoulders. He shoulder start bouncing. And that for me was hayes digging it And he loved the nonverbal stuff. He would come up to do more of the you was. He loved that stuff a lot. he's very musical. I mean you can even say to you know. Obviously the famous goodfellas seen with patchy where he sang out. What am i am. I climbed to that is funny. That is there is some sort of funny aspect of the terror. that's winning. yeah yes. I love that. You've he loves funny bloody funny and then soderbergh Magic mike what was the. What was the the line for you. There were if you recall from that character. So stephen suffer calls me pitches the thing when she played this guy he was sort of an extra. He's probably still dancing but he runs the club. Now you know. And i'm like okay. And he goes. I can get you in a couple weeks. And i went away. Dement stephen i. I'm talking with us. Look you've got gotta give me something. I for two weeks i want to being. I'm going to be all over the place. Gimme some line. That i can take from here. That can give me just a launch. A diving board. Take with me i win. We hang up and he was quiet per second nelson and the characters name does dallas because wham dallas pretty connected to the. Ufo's man that's what he said. So i said oh well take the roof off of wherever you go for this. This guy is lunar here. We go and so i just started saying he says capitalist. He's doing this. He's doing that and made him what made kearney as i could go As well as being a dangerous but that line is what he gave me which is what a great piece of direction from anybody basically saying your freezer further now. That's not what you want to go. Further or issued. Let her know. I wasn't getting nervous. About how how you were. Keep going this man. I love that matthew mcconaughey here on just getting started. So let's talk about the here and now austin fc. Let's talk about being the owner of a football club as they would call it certainly across the pond as they do also here now in america. You are the ceo of austin fc as of two thousand nineteen right. That's when you first started to co owners of it yet as years ago and we're gonna have a ball on the pitch here. I believe in just a few months. How i mean what is elvin. What is that experience like for you been so far. Is you getting set to air. Very very fun and cool. I mean it's it's things are coming together a lot of great things to come together number one. I traveled the world. What's the one game. That's played everywhere. That's it soccer ball. Greatest invitation world. We're in rome. Urine iceland urine in cleveland. Your new york. You're in johannesburg sitting around the table. Having launched somebody's got a ball down the street kids you anyone can just walk up. You don't have to introduce yourself. Just walk up opened up. A football comes to you. Kick it around. It happens you can pick a game anywhere in the world. My kids play. My wife is brazilian. I'm getting to know that soccer's their blood read introduced me to the love of soccer. Boys loved the world cup now. I'm really starting to follow soccer now. Mls ooh soccer's coming to america and it's real now it's established here the user strong Soccer's on the gum. The world cup coming in twenty six we're going to host our front porch the world game yes talking young town when the fastest growing cities in the nation becoming a metropolis progressive looking forward never had a pro team never had a team that we could root for our city. Oh a tight time for it. So these things coming together. The city of austin my personal knowledge in love the game. That's growing through my family and travels and the fact that the game of soccer is growing so welling united states. Now what are fun. Chances really which is why this is fun for me is how yes soccer's coming often but now how do we take often soccer. How does our game experience the twenty thousand on any given night acute to stadium unlike any other and we're i'm thinking very fun i mean it's obvious can be a family affair but it should be highly rowdy affair that represent now played degrade degrade diversity in austin we now. We have one place where everyone can go on any given night in austin all the little boroughs vossen have a place to convene now in that stadium over a game. That is the world's gay and so Have you Is there is a part of this that you didn't expect that you learn something again. I'm kinda trying to weave the the main theme of this pod into you taking on something new And figuring out what to make of it well let me define that. So i'm trying to measure my choices. Now that i going to invest my time in. I ask for civil matthews. The legacy joyce meeting is a choice that in ten years you can look back and go. Oh i'm so glad that's on my desk. Is this a choice. That when you're on your deathbed you look back and go. Oh yeah. I enjoyed building that. Is this a choice that hopefully you can hand off to. Your kids are other people that can keep it alive after you're gone stocker. The game of football in in austin is something that checks all those boxes for me. I love hard work. But i also want to have things that i look forward to having on my mobile monday morning desk. And this is one of those It's in my backyard where my kids love the game. We'd want to go anyway. Whether i was owner or not. We'll let's get in there. I know austin very well. I feel like i got a pulse on the culture in the dna here. Yeah and so. It's it's it's been fun work so far. The owners are ownership. Group is is a big. We're doing a good job so far our first impression before we even put a ball and the bitch. We've got record breaking jersey sales. So that the the appetites there the beavers there as well. And i want to build a team that's legacy. We have cultural giants often. Texts will now. Let's go create some new culture giants on the pitch and build something where it's a hundred year war and where where my kid making over for me that we're looking back in sixty years going here we built and we were austin from day one and we're growing as austin whatever day is the future hopefully for hundreds of years. You can deal with talent relations. You're going to be able to deal with these players. Have become come on your desk them down. What management style. What are we go that wants to wants to meet with the players at my desk. Our players out there on the pitch and go and go. Yeah i know. I can't play this game but i'd rather meet you and look. Yeah it's a it's a. I'll probably enjoy that in a similar way. And i'll be curious to see different that i enjoy talking to players for the university of texas longhorns that i enjoyed talking to these young men are eighteen to twenty two years old fraught. We talking to men that are that age and a little bit older but under professionals for of soccer. so and you know and it's going to be different languages. We get south american players. It's gonna the colors and i'll find out from from them. You know i mean what are the. I'm going to keep learning. What are the different cultures. That soccer brings from their countries. And do we have that established in our city. Because i'll bet you that the diversity that so far the diversity we have in the players in the team has a mirror of the diversity in the city as well like dad we have those communities that are from places that are players from as well. I think steve tisch. The owner of the giants is the only owner in professional north american sports to have an oscar and a championship trophy. He was producer of forrest. Gump okay so he's so that you can join a very very small class people matthew here to bring to have to have your hands full. You know of some trophies arms realm. that'd be that's true. yes. I should just use the hands. I should use the entire the body. I like the way you think. That's what he got a snake as an owner greedy. You gotta be reunion sports. Well we wanna win. That's for sure at the same time you know. Can we sit there in in expect to have an absolutely outstanding product day one. I don't know why we got cloudy or rainy and coach jostle putting together the team. They're very happy with the team. They handle that over there. I'm on the outskirts of that. Learning from cloudy. Oh you know about what players. And why. And what kind of team ages. Whether from how to start a team it's stuff i've wanted to do all my life but now i'm getting to do it instead of just be a fan. Have some skin in the game. Also and now this book A million copies sold of green lights and again that that kind of dovetails into the main theme of this pod matthew the reaction that you have received from this book did it meet. We talked about meeting expectations in terms of your acting. Did it meet your expectations in terms of offering matthew. Well i gotta be honest. I didn't really have expectations. Because they had no measurement and no context never written a book before a new arena can can analyzing though it's kind of like putting the movie out in does it do well But it was different and a goal early on was number one near bestseller. It happened just bacillus on one of the compass out still there. Eighteen nineteen weeks later. I'm still enjoying talking about. I'm doing a remote circuit. I've taught my favorite thing. Is i talk about similar subjects. Twenty thirty times with twenty thirty different people over and over and over for the last eighteen weeks but every single conversation specific different even though it may be about the same subject. So what i'm seeing is people are gonna hate. I register your life. But i it reminded me of my own. Life is what they're telling me in reminded me of this time of my life for this choice i wanna make and so they're able to internalize it make objective to them and tell me hey. This is really helpful and it's fun and it's helping me with success. It's helping me with failure so that it's becoming That spread like that in translating like that to so many people say maybe i hope for but didn't know that it would it. Would it would happen to this. I was hoping that. I had to share that people that humanity could go. Yes yes. I see myself in that to matthew. And but to this extent so far i i don't think i had. I could imagine this. So i guess what would be enclosing here The one piece of advice you would give to somebody about making choices that they have a choice right now to make about anything but most importantly you know maybe it is a career choice. Maybe it is a choice that they have to make an order to reach a goal family wise or. Is there anything that you you'd have on that front. Yeah go got a nephew. i mean i'm relieved into something. I alluded to earlier. Which is we. Don't do this enough. And i think it's a really important thing to try under when we're faced with the decision just project into the future a little bit. Maybe that's just tomorrow. Maybe that's next week. Maybe maybe it's not. Maybe it's only deathbed. Just project out there and look back and go. Am i gonna enjoy the view looking back at this decision. Am i going to go. I don't know if i'm gonna get it or not. I don't think it'd be a successor failure. But am i going to look back and go all right. I appreciated that choice of where you were at that time of your life is just a little trick to do with ourselves but it's very very useful. It helps us become objective about our subject personal decision that we're making and a lot of times we're making these big decisions we feel like we're the center of the world in world revolving around us and this decision is so important sometimes. Give too much import as i said earlier. Sometimes he's like making decision commit but we feel like the world revolve around us if we project into the future and look back at ourselves in that decision. That's getting objective. It's kind of like pop mac. Well how's that decision. I'm gonna make. How's it going to play out. What are the different scenarios. That could play out. It can be very helpful in making the decision Also just say making tough. Decisions are uncomfortable. There's good discomfort in his bed. Discover ask yourself why. You're afraid to decision if i'm if i'm afraid of a decision because i'm like i don't know what's going to happen. It's just the unknown. But i absolutely set. Maybe that's a good food have. Maybe that's the reason to lean into it now. I'm afraid to make a decision. Because i'm like i don't trust the pedigree. I don't think that the people will be working with had the best interest me. Well that's a bad kind of fear you should listen to that and maybe not do it bet on yourself. It's gotta be personal doesn't mean you're gonna get it every time but if you bet on yourself and you don't half ass it it works. You can look in the mirror and go. Yes if it doesn't work you look morongo guilty but no is a hell of a lot better land at night gone. Just not sure. What would have happened if i would love it love it. You're the best man. I can't leave this podcast and go see my children without telling them. What a buster moon told me about sing to and when it's coming because they know i'm talking to buster moon to death. That's the character you played in sing which children have seen a million times. And it's a dynamite film. What what is the scoop with sink to. Saint is right our set for christmas at the end of this year task and garth directors extremely excited about smell. Don tris very bill. Dodgers very excited about elimination. I haven't seen it yet. I'm looking forward to seeing it to those. Things are so much fun to work will work on to play on because they're not work. They're fun to play on. And i'd never done. I started doing the animated film because people kept asking my kids. What their favorite films are their dad was. And i'm like i don't make many films. My kids can see you mean. They haven't they haven't seen true detective yet. Maybe tomorrow man. That's going to open up a lot of questions. I'm not ready to answer. Sink to is more their speed and more airline. How old are they. How old are your twelve. Eleven and eight. They've got some viewing to do once in the future but for the moment. Buster moon will suffice testing. You're the best thanks again. Matthew really greatly appreciate you help and kick start my new podcast. Just getting started. Green lights is available. Were all books are sold. Go get that austin. Fc jersey. i look forward to seeing that ball out on the pitch. I look forward to seeing you in the owner's suite or are you going to be like Again i know you're a washington football guy or you're going to be like jerry jones on the on the on the pitch right at the end. Are you gonna be one of those guys. I'll have to see. It's hard to keep me off the grass. Okay i love it. You take care of yourself. Thank you matthew mcconaughey. Hey right here on just getting started. Well that's episode one matthew mcconaughey as just a fantastic fantastic storyteller. And i'm thrilled. That i was able to get him for the i pod of just getting started and bring it on to you and so you know everyone is up to speed the way that this is gonna work. I'll chat with somebody. I'll start with their origin story. Get to the here and now and then maybe Finish up with the story of my own to leave you with and also that gets inspired by something. I've just heard from the guest and matthew mcconaughey telling that story about having an absolute cold sweat that just broke out on the back of his neck when he thought you know what i'll just wing it. I'll just wing it for a scene. Because he wanted to make sure that how tight he was wouldn't be brought into this job because he was so tight in job after job after job or audition after auditions. So he's gonna take a totally different approach. Be loose and that's the time. He gets a four page side in spanish. And that reminded me of my first ever sportscenter and it was nineteen ninety-six. I was twenty six years old. And i had just gotten the job sportscenter on. Espn by sending a tape of my work that i had been conducting at a small television market crtv in redding california the abc affiliate of the reading chico market little. Did i know at the time that a young man and california named aaron rodgers was out there in the audience. He and i have never had a conversation about that but he grew up in chico. Calif just when. I was a sports anchor so the probability was there. But i ain't great. It was a small market. And i sent a tape to a head hunter under the category of you never know you just never know who's going to see it so i sent it always going to do is cost me first class postage. So i take the tape. Put it in an envelope. Put first class postage on it. Send it to a head. Hunter never know while. Sharon often might tell the story in greater detail or pull out the greater detail later on in future podcasts. But long story short is i did get a call from one of the head hunters and that did lead to my job at sportscenter. My dream job at espn age twenty. Six and my first sportscenter was in the middle of march of nineteen ninety-six. It was a saturday. Seven o'clock eastern sportscenter which they don't have that time slot anymore but at any rate it was right there early evening on a saturday during march madness. I think it was the first weekend. I had to have been the round of thirty. Two of the nineteen ninety-six march madness tournament. Larry beal was the other anchor. And i remember be nervous very nervous and i try to stay loose just like matthew dry. St louis need to stay loose. And i tried to prepare for it but the problem was is the games that i would be doing. The highlights of on this show were all happening. They're all happening all going down. I mean it's march madness. You know that you know games are nonstop the tipping off fifteen minutes field like and it feels like whenever you're watching it. That's what makes it so great. And i remember thinking to myself. How am i going to prepare for this. How can i stay loose. What am i going to do. And it was time to go down to the studio for my first ever sportscenter. And i had about twelve games of highlights in the show and add only the paperwork they give you a shot sheet to read off of in notes form knowing what shots are going to appear on the screen so you knew the information of who had the ball and what the score was and how much time is left on the clock and what have and so on and so forth so i had the paperwork and it only seen the highlight of one of the twelve that i had in the show. In other words. I would have to ad-lib eleven of the twelve highlights. I had in the show sight unseen like. Normally you would get this highlight. You'd look at it. you'd watch it. You'd go over it so you know what you might say when you say it on the aaron live tv and i remember thinking to myself walking down to the said i had two choices. That's i boil it down to two choices. Try to make it very easy for me to remain calm. And i remember thinking to myself to choices one was to suck it up and know that this was my dream moment and i had been betting on myself my entire life that i was waiting for this moment and it finally arrived albeit. Not what the attention to detail. That would have calmed my nerves or the preparation. That i wanted or ever envisioned. I would not have going down to the studio. That was choice. A choice b was to be down my leg. And i thought to myself. You know. that's choice it's Definitely not choice. Let's choose. And i don't know how the show went. I went well. I mean you know. I wasn't fired on the spot I was bouncing off the walls. But i just remember thinking to myself. I got two choices. One is to go with the flow. Go at the moment. Believe in yourself know that this moment that you've been waiting for your entire life has arrived and meet it. Meet the moment and the other choices to panic which might feel good at the time but never would work out in a million years. And i know that may sound over simplified and many of the pieces of advice or stories. You hear may sound while that's really simple. I didn't. i knew that already. Sometimes what you know you need to hear. And that's that. That is an absolute belief that i have that. Sometimes you think you know but you still need to hear it for you to believe it. That's it for this first episode of just getting started. Next week's guest is damon. John shark tank. We'll see you next week on just getting started right here on westwood one.

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Matthew McConaughey Wants You To Find Your Frequency

The Rich Roll Podcast

1:47:08 hr | 8 months ago

Matthew McConaughey Wants You To Find Your Frequency

"The. Each one of us look in the mirror. You can be a little bit better. What can I do that? I'd be great country. Perfect. There is no best I can be a little bit better. I can be a little more fair. How can I? Understand that my brother and sister are also hurting maybe in different ways than I am. How can have a conversation with condemnation? How can I have patients take a breath and listen And let someone who hasn't been heard speak. More loudly than maybe they need to but here. How do we make this time just to flash in the PAN? how do how do we be honest for the choices we make ourselves selfishly are also the best choices for the most amount of people and does not need specific recipe for that. But take that into consideration. When we make our choices ourselves, I'd say this man start off trying to create more green lights for yourself and others see where those to meet and see that actually being self less is actually a very selfish act tweeting more for others is actually very selfish for yourself as well and trying to make sure you're selfish choices for yourself also liked the way. For more people as well. As Matthew mcconaughey and this episode Nickel Nickel Nickel Aka Five, five, five of the rich role podcast. PODCAST. Come. That's right. He is here we made it happen. It's all very exciting, but before we begin today. May I indulge you with a brief but very exciting announcement that begins with a little expression of gratitude as most you guys know I've been doing this thing behind a mic for almost eight years at this point. And I think it would be an understatement to say that it's been in continues to be. 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He's the guy who seeks adventure off the beaten path somebody who's not afraid of a psyche probing vision quest and has emerged from these experiences over the decades. As a man with a code and I don't know that you call him grew pretty sure he'd Bristle at that label but there is a sliver of truth in that label he's definitely A Guy with a philosophy drawn from experience and somebody with a truly utterly unique way of Communicating Truth and wisdom both personal and universal. That can only be described as one hundred percent. McConnell hey. So As most of you note, no, at this point, Matthew has distilled all of it into a book green lights which is. This delightful. I was happy to discover. Very, honest, but also self mythology. Love letter to life sort of. beat. Generation. Inspired Pastiche of journal entries stories from his experiences lessons learned all sprinkled with just the right amount of self help fairy dust. Truth, a couldn't put it down love this book that does not happen often and. I Know Matthew is making the rounds right now not only is he everywhere on legacy media? He's also popping up on tons of podcast and on Youtube channels but I think I hope at least that we want a few places others haven't to really. Better understand. The offscreen Dude and One thing is clear from reading his book in having this conversation is that Behind. Matthews hangdog laconic persona is a guy who really works his ass off somebody who fully commits to everything. He does with a razor sharp focus and the tenacity of a bull somebody who understands the importance of perseverance how to persist beyond whatever obstacles in his path. He is in many ways a master of resilience a grew. To himself and one of the most spiritually attuned beings I've ever met. So this conversation first and foremost is about discernment it's Abou. Making critical choices. How to craft, your future? And the often. At least right now. Overlooked importance of character. It's also a conversation about widening aperture on life, how to consistently grow, learn, transform, and most importantly how to hone your intuition. To Coin Matthews phrase it's about. Connecting in expanding the Audubon between your mind and your heart. A set enough too much probably like most people I adore this man this was Super Fun. It was an honor to talk to Matthew Hope you guys dig it. So with that I give you the Aficionado of the intangible. Mr. Bats McConnell. Rate Iraq mess row. So. Our point of Introduction or inflection was our mutual friend? Dan. Butin her. Who Pleasantly? Introduced us and we were meant to go on this backpacking trip in Utah like ultralight backpacking check I canceled because of Cova it. So I was looking forward to meeting you in person, but that's GonNa have to wait for another day. Dan are good. Man Dan is good curator of of people with with leg, but challenging mind I. Nicknamed G H. No. What does that mean? Genuinely heroic. Being just sometimes I mean from four dimensions and three, hundred, sixty, whichever you WANNA. Take. He's generally roque. Where did you first meet him? I met in. We were over I think in. Europe at a at a google weekend a google getaway. He was one of the speakers and he was the. First Speaker. I believe. And of the day of that So said day what he had to say I remember listening to him is going. that. Guy's got the greatest job in the world. Yeah. He goes around studying longevity happiness in people and culture, and so I chased him down. and May Zaylon and she met him and talk to mess some things and He continued A to call me Bradley Cooper and then I think young went up in Florida with my wife and called her Mrs Cooper. Sounds like Dan she's still generally Erlich and now he's rehabbed he's rehabilitated. You see his latest fall I did I did I'm going to go up and visit him up in Santa Barbara in a week or so? I told him I said a pothole in the middle of the street. MINNESOTA. Just doesn't fit the meter of of a genuinely heroic Dan Butin wreck for all the stuff that that guy's done riding his bike across Saudi Arabia and everything for him to get knocked down that way. But Hey, man happens to the best of us but I reached out to him. And I was like, what should I ask matthew that is mainly not Google and he said some people think that Matthew is is her ROIC and a lot of areas acting fatherhood ambassadorship scholarship others think he's just generally heroic. Your comments. So some of my boomerang came back. A that's all him. He's. He's the purely G. H. One He just he calls me Minnie nicknames one of them professor because I'm a professor at ut No, he's the generally theralac one more. So than me so you question being what how am I generally? How do you respond to that? Can you take that complement? How's that land for you? Well, I've always enjoyed China. Entertain what the definition of. Is All through life I mean. You've got the. What's always been says they talk about you know our men and women who often offended in the country or the true heroes, and then you say there's heroes every day that that do good deeds I don't know if that's. A relic I'll say this on any kind of heroism whatever you definitions, whatever anyone's definition is. When I got fame and success. Started A. Foundation that we have just magical Mondays and very well. I didn't I chose to do that. I. Don't think it's real but what I'm leaving into this. Some people. Sir, responsibility once you have success, you issue responsible I don't think that's true I think it's a personal choice. Just. Like. Every day the choices we make I think should be very selfish. I don't think we make good choices for anybody unless his personal. So I don I don't know about the heroic I wouldn't consider myself a hero. I've been fortunate in had an innate ability in work my backside off to be. At least pretty damn good at some things I've still got some things in the debit section I will say this my favorite job in the world has been a father I don't know if being a good father is a heroic job is just being a good father so. I don't know what to do with the hero comment coming back, right? Maybe. It, all depends on how you define it. How broadly or how strictly I suppose but more conversation around you know how to be a man of character I suppose and the man of cared. About that 'til all all day long you know and even that. Responsibility but a choice, you know the only thing I ever knew I wanted to be was to be a father in my life, and then I've also learned now that okay well. Just because you helped make child doesn't mean you're you did the work father. Martin Fatherhood is a verb as in life is a verb these character choices we make choices we make every day are compounded assets for our future or not. I have been less long view. Of of life of realized early on that. In investments in ourselves today not up our. In Our Future can bias green lights in our future. The choices we make today are counting assets of our future in continuous up. For. Success on the title of the book. Green Lights I know, I know for a fact we can engineer agree I also know for a fact that I've been damned fortunate had some Disarma- lap but choices of character our long-term choices that Neil with delayed gratification Yeah I. Remember something that Dan told me awhile back, which was when he was when he was early in his career and thinking about what he wanted to do and who he wanted to be. He was spending time working for George Plumpton at the Paris review and he would go to these fancy. You know upper east side parties, all these Mucky mucks and George. Although he was respected wasn't necessarily a man of means but he had made this decision to live this life of adventure and when they would go to these parties all these. People who gravitate around George because he was the one with the stories and that's what made Dan Inspire to live the kind of amazing life of adventure that that he's lived and I see a lot of that in you I mean we're GonNa talk about the book but these pivots that you've made the wanderlust that kind of infuses, your life, and these moments where you know by dint of a wet dream or some kind of funny that you would have or being stuck, you would always know this is the time where I need to kind of. Do. My walkabout. So I'm interested in in how that plays into the fabric of your life and how you prioritize it. Yeah. Well. Look I. Think you know those hints? Angels of truth around us all the time. It's just we don't always notice them. You know they're there. But we don't notice. It's understandable at high frequency life man on noise coming in on all of us I have learned early on to listen to that spider sense to me that says, you need to go away McConnell how you need to go spend some time with yourself open up the bond between your head and your heart because right now it's a bit of a one way gravel. You know dirt road for you and. Your heart and your heart. Your mind aren't really a instincts mention synchronization be questioning what matters of always question since I was fourteen one of the things with right in the book, my diary entries was fourteen or about similar topics that I'm still interested in today fifty. had. A pretty good threshold for when I do get that spider sense to say, Oh, you need to get out of here. Hang you need to leave what you're insulating get outside and have a clear view you need to leave where you are at now and find out what do I find that when I go on memory catches up oh demarcations between events that maybe I was handling in good at handling events just being being mill up on press Let's do this pilot on I'll be horse I'll get through it but I didn't notice what had happened to me like for instance when I got famous I didn't notice what that was until I got the hell out of dodge. Twenty two day walk about yourself improve. Then I was like Oh, that's what happened Oh. That's what that event or circumstance or run in with that person was about because they were all on top of each other the time I wasn't able to separate things that were going on too much frequency. So of have gone away many times on my own learn to enjoy the solitude not necessarily join my company in the solitude, which usually the first twelve days I do not enjoy my company shaken demons off my back filling regret lost confused figure stuff out and usually around day twelve or day thirteen I'll have a breakthrough and she usually it's that breakthrough where. All right. Hey, you're the only guy I'm stuck with a can't get rid of. which is each of us for ourselves. What are we gonNA forgive and what are we gonNA say? I'm not putting up with anymore. Figure those two hour shake hands with myself and wake up the next morning. Then those trips are wonderful. Then I'm present then I'm singing a song then wisdom's landing on me. Then I'm hearing those angels and those butterflies of truth that land and you go Bam this is on me I'm hearing now how do I personalize it this truth in an ask myself the question why it's coming to me. How do I preserve it the patience to preserve it. And then when I leave those trips, the big fun challenges, how do I take that truth the solitary troops back into the masses back into the stadium of life and ride that bull that Rodeo of life and remember trust at this truth that cross me that found me while I was in solitude is true. Now then and forever wherever I am. That's the hard right. It strikes me as almost this impulse for self preservation or self defense like there's it takes a certain level of awareness as an individual to recognize those moments. Even if they're visited upon all of us and you're somebody, you know the fact that you've been journaling consistently. From, way back from an early age tells me that you're an introspective person by nature I'm not sure where that came from maybe of an answer to that. But then you go on these adventures that are about self defense self. reinvention reflection, and then the trick the hard part is bringing it back and not letting it evaporate. But but taking, you know having being able to distill whatever wisdom comes to you about the experience itself but more importantly what you learn about your own self and then trying to exude that to imbue it and live your life in accordance. Yes and Eddie, and you're right the the initial reaction to. Leave and go into solitude is a defense mechanism isn't survival mechanism is a Whoa I'm I'm not feeling grounded here mentally spiritually. So I need to I don't know what the answer is gotta get out of here where I can hear myself thing I know I gotta get Outta here. I can be in a place where I can receive some the truth then yeah. That fun challenge bringing it back. and. Yes. Not Let it be stripped away, which eventually does it get stripped away but even better sometimes bring it back and play offense within like go. I'm not just come back on hold onto it. I WANNA put it into action I want you know it's why I'm such a slow reader. If I read you know one of my favorite writings is Emmerson does say on self reliant. I mean that takes. That Essay which is about twenty pages long. Took me two years to read. Because good. Though the first paragraph I'm Whoa I gotta take that and see if I apply that life and see what the reverse of life is back to me. If I'm looking through that Lens, which takes me a couple of months before I can come across the next paragraph the fun stuff I like street or the fun things that. Wisdom will come to me in solitude that I wanNA take back into society and you're right. It strips away you look up, follow him back into Smelt Habit I. Forgot that I. gotTa go calibrate. I gotta go back to school go break a sweat i. need to go away again I need to go revisit my diary and look at what I was doing when I was satisfied when I was successful when I was happy with myself, my relationships were good when I did have that audubon between the mind the heart. And because. I'm rod against I need to go back and I have found clues in my diaries of when I was happy as to what I was doing was a hanging out with what was drinking where was it going? How much sleep was I get? Oh, see now my life I'm in this bit of a Rut I'm. complacent. Some of those things I'm doing some things that are not feeding. Myself until I need to go back. So some of those divers have been good little maps for me to go back and dissect when I felt successful and happy rather than just go dissect failures, which is more of our our habits. Do you find it more difficult to. pull the trigger, pull the record, and you know split when things are going well or when things are challenging. As you progress through life and you have more responsibilities in more abundance in your life, it's got to be harder to say I'm gonNA walk away from this and go try something else. It's. It's different when you're all of whatever you were twenty, three, twenty four and you're living in an airstream. And having three. and. It. Makes it a little harder to but yet more difficult when things are going well because I don't know about you but mainly and things are going well inevitably feel like, oh, well, this is the main. This is how it's supposed to be. This is how it is. I've got it figured out this. There's no reason for it ever to dip below this which, of course, it always does. And then I gotta go off again but I have. You Know Party is going away. Go write this book was a bit was that I needed a chip way not only that I my wife knew I needed yeah. She gave me a kick in the backside and she'll come to me and tell me. You need to get out of here for a while. Go off to you know go off don't come in and then I'll call you know and she'll like don't even call. Of course that mean of course I'm calling now. Much quicker than if she said, make sure you call they don't want to be told what to do. But I'll go away with this. She goes don't come back to you got something however long that takes were good I. got those here was a gift. She gave me I was able to go away on these walkabouts with that look over my shoulder and go. Oh Am I building a debit right now because when I go back I'm not going to have to do a whole lot of extra work to catch back what I miss. She's never been someone who made me feel like okay. Now you've been away now you need to double up on all your duties. It was always like sheep she pushes me out the door she did this book. That's that's amazing. You definitely married the right one for that. Yeah. Well, the the as the story goes. I don't know how much of this is apocryphal versus true. You took off your journals. You went to the desert for something like fifty two days i read somewhere that that. You did it without electricity but then in the book you at the end of the book, you kind of you are in a couple of different places, right? Like I'm envisioning you at the typewriter. If you don't have electricity how you writing this book, well, I started off at that election I twelve days with that. and took a generator so I could fly Laptop. And that was just WanNa, go some place where I didn't. Email shutdown Mike. Count I wanted to go some late with no stone signaled toward only six PM each night as a certain. Hill about a half a mile away that I would hike to the top and make the call to check on the family and that was it of the net no incoming calls, no incoming emails how going. I needed to be stripped out of necessity to go say. How can I best cup solitude with me and me of my last fifty years without any outside invitations and so that was I twelve days and I must say I went into it. Intimidating. Whenever wanted to go I thought looking back. At fifty years my going to be embarrassed thought things under their things. Are GonNa be shamed about on their place was GonNa go you arrogant little prick. What were you thinking? And what happened is most of the things that I thought it would be embarrassed about. End Up laughing at most of the things I've thought it'd be ashamed about I ended up forgiving myself for or noticed I already had forgive myself for and the part where I was arrogant. I laughed at it was also like we'll good on you for thinking you knew it all at that point because. Following those points in my diaries where I would be so self-confident all-knowing. I always very soon stepped in Shit in my life. Going, based off like I. Am I absolutely know and I was happy that at least I had the confidence to think I had it all figured out and then as life dealt me guards found out I didn't. I went away thinking that these dire is going to be much more academic. and. I remember the first four days or trying to force it into an academia mind. Also I stopped and I remember stop one is look. You looked at things just read each page and see what it is. See what it lends itself to be unless you stack up see if some categories show up and what happened after about ten days was I had these seven stacks it was a stack full of stories. It was a stack full of people that full of places a stack full of prescribes stack of poems, prayers, and a whole bunch of bumperstickers. So those were my categories and then I said, okay, we have some semblance here some structure of something. Now, what is all this and that was actually that what I just ripped off was my original title. So as people, places prescribes points, prayers, and a whole bunch of bumper stickers. Yeah battle but. Then said mallets read through all these NC of something. Another central theme column reveals itself, and that's where the titled Green. Light came from a noticed. That there were successes in my life that engineered I. noticed there their successes that I got just playing good fortune landed in my lap. I noticed that in certain ways red and yellow lights my life crisis in hardships. I believed while I was in that, there was a lesson to be learned in green light asset within them not knowing when I would. It would be revealed to me but trusting just to stick with it, stick with the hardship endure it, and there's a there's a there's a green light in it. I noticed that some things that I thought father passing how can that be agreement? That's an absolute red light well on keep read my ten years later I'm understanding how the values in incentive that he taught me I wouldn't have enacted them. In my own life if he is still alive because I would relied on him being there the have my back. 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It has that type of aesthetic and it's this kind of patchwork of you know stories from your life in a relatively traditional kind of memoir narrative but interspersed with your poetry and always with these kind of life lessons and takeaways are just unbelievably wise and I would look at these and I would I would wonder like how old was he? When he wrote this stuff I mean when you went back and looked at your journals. Were, you surprised at the wisdom of some of the things that you said when you were younger. was there anything that stuck out that you didn't expect? Obviously the earlier. Diary entries were wise why what we're when? House it was the question there. There's a question mark after everything is always seeking the question as I evolved got older. I started to answer some of those questions and could some them up in a in a in a wisdom bomber, an aphorism or a bumper sticker, right? But it didn't lead to any fewer questions. Questions all I think but as I said earlier, what I was looking at the questions I was asking fourteen about existence in who am I, and what's what matters what's life about how the world works who am I in this world still question us but it is unusual for a fourteen year old to be asking those kinds of questions. So I'm curious like where do you think that comes from in you? I don't know I don't know how to answer that because. We weren't raised as it very introspective family we always have our. Prayer ingratitude found that we were raised as consistent extrovert mean like listen. Allowed to watch or read because my mom would say. Why read about a watch somebody do something that you can go to yourself get outside ca always go do it go experience it you know I I don't know where my my family my mom wasn't really a writer my dad wasn't I mean I was always though early on. The inquisitor of the family, the interrogator, the one who wasn't satisfied with mom and dad just going because we said so I'll go. Let's get underneath this. That's why I was going to be a lawyer I was. Dude you matthew the youngest one you debate things in question things to the nth degree and it's exhausting at times. So I was always sort of wanting to get to underbelly of the meaning of things NAM very early age I don't know where that came from. That's just kind of always been who I am. Yeah in reading about growing up with your dad I mean I i. just I was thinking most people. Who have had an experience like that would be. Doing a lot of therapy and harboring a lot of resentments but you really have a lot of peace around it and a lot of love honor and a Lotta love. That's the word. You. Know I if you look the stories open up with a wild story about A. Monumental fight that my mom and dad had got bloody. But ended up, making love on the floor. I always when people ask him about the love of my family or loved I have my parents had for me in mom and dad for each other I always told these stories. A discipline that involves some form of. Or corporal punishment. On, this book to I've been wondering why because when I tell you this story, you see me light up and people like on paper I've got my hand over my mouth going Oh my gosh. Call Child Protection Services. Yes. Not to Mikhail you must have been in therapy since then to deal with the trauma and I'm like No. So when I tell the story though we will get you see the humanity in the love that I have for and I think the reason I tell those stories. Is because. They were the biggest test to defeat the bubble of love that we were surrounded with, but they never had a chance to beaten. And so I tell those stories because there was like a lightning rod of like Oh. This is trauma. Violent. Oh. This problem Oh this is where it all falls apart. But it actually never had a chance. Part. Mean my mom, and Dad. Divorced twice, married three times. The two divorces, all that lightning Rod China puncture that bubble up into June three marriages governor and we got from. Getting punished I earned every time everything I got punished for Allah back and I go. We got your first but will open for not engine to your name your second percent. I can't your third per se I hate you to your brother in your fourth for Lyon. I'M GONNA, go back and do the math. That's four pretty doggone good reasons to get you Always answer to your name. No you're having trouble doing something instead of that you can't do it. Don't hate. And don't lie there values instilled in those in every time I did I remember not the but open but the value that I've not I don't say that Word C., A., N. T.. I don't I don't hate. I do go. No, it's not Matt Matthew. You know I do my best to tell the truth not lie in good lessons that were engrained in us and I think that's why tell is love stories even though on paper you agree or disagree with the former punishment that was what was being instilled him and that's what I took from an even then. You know when my mom taught me to swim in through the river, and here we come on a waterfall that if I go off that I'm not going to die. But I'M GONNA I'm gonNA break bone or two. And she walks along the bank orange cross go. Swim. When I finally put my head down and saw that waterfall coming and swam to the bank. I was scared but I wasn't mad. I was immediately proud. And like you know in shock but is there merely proud because I was like mom, right? She was right. It was time for me swim. Yeah. There's. There's so many lessons in that. It's an extreme example of something that I think has been eroded in our culture in this time of participation trophies where you know we're coddling our kids to such an extent that we're depriving them of. Some of those rough and tumble moments where they get their knee skin so that they can learn these lessons. You know I don't know about the extreme your examples but at least letting kids fail and fall and get into trouble and figure out, you know where their compass laws let him go negotiate I mean I agree with the I think in some ways, we can do deprive our children of understanding. How to go negotiate situation I I've been looking at like this. It's like a tree them a child's not afraid. Of Heights until they. Fall. Will before they've fallen is like. Seem on that tree and you go they built from there I mean it's going to hurt but. Not, GonNa you know go hospital I. Think I'll let him keep climbing there. Let's negotiate that. And maybe they make it or maybe they saw will then it gets up higher in the golden man if they fell from their, this could be really really painful. I, think now's the time to hey. Everybody come on down a little bit. You know what I mean like, what level do we let him go out and then we should I think a lot of society raise the level of that limo little bit to let our kids go. Yeah you'RE GONNA get bumped and bruised there buddy you're gonNA skin the knees go ahead and wear those knees out in your jeans or fall from that lamb and go yet. You See. Not Happened. Yeah. If you don't pay attention so I I. Yeah I would say. I'm not. You know I don't think we should say the the level of the the the height of the limb that my parents sort of let us walk out on needs to be the main for everybody but there is great value in those in those lessons and we never. Were abused we never were injured. It hurt. Blood was drawn but we were never injured. There's hurt and injury and. So we were never abused. Mcginn. The Love was never in question. And, being reared in the shadow of this outlaw logic. There was a fair amount of acting out on your part, but it was kind of healthy teenager stuff like you weren't. Taken it to you know to such an extent that you were getting into big time trouble. No I. Number one I was pretty good with getting away with stuff because at two older brothers who has they say paved wide Hiram form. And you know my brothers would jack with makes you little Mama's boy the golden boy again I remind them well, I got away with stuff better than the other to. The same time I would you know a bit of a hell raiser but it was all sort of good. What it wasn't wasn't too GNARLIEST Numb I. You know I never really got into drugs. I didn't harm other people I got away with some things that you know wouldn't be scripted for everyone to get away with but. I also say this and someone asked me the other day. Do you believe? You know you were you were raised I see in the Book Matthew with certain amount of fear of your father and mother you still believe in the value that and my answers. Yeah. So how do you translate that as a parent to three kids now? Yeah. Well, differently the MOM and dad did. Tom I would think. So don't choose to and I'm not judging how they did it. Again. Yeah. Arrive at this in the book my parents also their reasoning trust me I went to him before and so would you please brown me and they were like no why because. That would be taking your time away from you and your time is valuable. Now over, we're going to get this out with and then itself Glad that happened Elliott. That's not how I choose to raise my children right now I'm trying to Camilla are trying to teach our kids values. We do talk we do not say because I said so as much as my parents did or most of our parents probably did we do try to explain things we've tried to. You know we had an instance the night now on the youngest one was was was getting sleepy an popped off. and. Disrespected his mother just by walking away from the middle of like Whoa. WHOA. WHOA WHOA WHOA now. Crime Tired Mills. Tires late. Night we've been out all day with the kids. What do you WanNa? Do you want to let it slide and just go to bed and let him go sleep. No no we're building debit. We've got to gather up the energy and sit down with our son and go do understand why that's not allowed. This is your mother. Right, she works for but off, we work our butts off to give you a house to give you a meal to raise you and nudge you to be the young man that you can be and you have to have respect what you just disrespectful and if you're disrespecting her you disrespecting yourself. And you do not have the right. To talk to your mother like that. It's a hell of a lot easier for your mom and I let it slide. Just let you go to bed with that punk move you just pulled but we're going to stay up and we're GONNA handle this right onto. You understand why that's disrespecting I mean why it's ugly and why you're line. And why if you continue to do that you the days will just not be as fun. And took a while. Very stubborn son than I was talking to went on for over an hour and a half, and finally he understood it and the fact that we gave that amount of time to say, no, you're not going to bed yet. No, we're not going to be until you get it I mean, yeah. Just sitting there spending and your child going he's mom and dad are still here an hour and a half later and they're not letting. Me Off the hook? Okay. I. Get it. So and then you know the challenge becomes how do you have them? How can they remember that they don't come repeat offenders so quick you know right after yeah he'll remember that and I think what you said earlier about asking your mom please ground you like the child wants those boundaries and they know that you're coming to them from a place of love even if it's hard and concerning. Well on on the fear thing again I know. That, there's a lot of things I was faced with temptation to a lot of things going up. That I knew I shouldn't do. That I did not do for fear of the consequences. So, fear. Definitely kept me from doing things because I'm like I measured it wait a minute. We go Egged, Derek car do that man pop find out about that old my gosh that's going to be. No. Risk reward I'm out. You know there's just certain things. I. Said, it's not it's not worth it and I had certain friends that didn't have the consequences deal with that. I would have had to deal with that. Did go do it. And Got Away with all kinds of stuff and some of them. Didn't ever really kind some of them turned out to be. You know. Crappy. But. There was also like it was almost like your dad wanted you to do some of these things as long as you told them the truth that it wasn't the offense offended him it was you lying about it like as long as you were honest with him and got away with it it was almost an Atta boy from him. In a way and that was part of the initiation of mandate, he wouldn't let us know that what you just said. But. That is what he was looking for. So this is a story in there about me stealing pizza one night with with the buddy on Bud Jonker and got home my dad's on the phone with Mister Felker. The father of the guy that I was out with we still the peach walked out on the pizza from. Pizza Hut and you know you get older you come home. And you've still on pizza in your dad goes to pay for that pizza. You should know right now that he knows you didn't. But, of course, that age like wall I mean I think? So data I mean we? Well, the girl had recognized bud called his dad and said, Hey, my table, they walked out on the pizza and my dad was just looking for me to go. Yeah we still the Pete and he'd gone. daime. Pieces of my life listen next time get away with it better. But thank you for telling me did gosh damage get your estimate right watch it well, I. Didn't I growled defend myself I tried to weasel my way out of it. He gave me three four chances to tell him. Yes, and I dug myself such a hole that I'm shivering there the spot, my jeans in fright not from him but at my own cowardice right I remember have one last year just tell me did you know you still beat and I went Any basically backhanded me and crumbled to the flu on the corner not from the back end. But because my lactic acid coward hypocritical legs from. Under me from being such a weasel and not being able to just admit, yes, I did and that's what broke his heart and I was scared because I saw was breaking my dad's heart right in front of me because I he wanted to do is just tell me something just tell me the truth the lot about stealing Dan Pizza man it's not about to deal on the pizza. It's about owning up to what you did and telling your father the truth and that I remember the tears in my face we're seeing my dad heartbroken knowing that I let him down. Well, it's just one of many rites of passage that He. PUTS. You through in the book is now makes it very clear how important these rites of passage are in your you know evolution as a human being so much so that it seems to me that these walkabout adventures go on later are your way of creating additional rites of passage. When you know we live in a culture where were bereft of those like most people don't grow up with any kind of meaningful rites of passage and that's something that were hardwired to need. We have to test ourselves or we need to be tested by somebody else, and if we're not getting that, we have to put ourselves in that position. Yes. Need Resistance. To find structure to create form and you know. For me later in life I could successful famous. You too many options can make tyrant any of us. And the world's saying? Yes, we'll. That's where the devil lives. is not the nose and I needed to go wait a minute. Is this what really matters? I, have that line in the book but when you can ask yourself if you want to before you do well. When you're getting all these things for the first time in your life and every the world's a big green light and everything's yes. I wanted to go away and Wait a minute are these green lights that are plugged into a battery or are they eternal? solar-powered reminds well, I'm getting a lot of them that I was like, oh. These are all a plugged into a battery there. They're impermanent. They're just kind of for now. They're they're they're kind of a fad they're not really thinking they're stops not stays in so. Needs to go away create that resist put myself into discomfort go without things fast from not just food or drink, but fast from attention fast from fame fast from all the yeses that are coming to me in the world and get some disarmament again as I said earlier that my memory ketchup who the heck I might, what really matters what I give a damn about what was that moment that real moment or was that just part of the? Part of the machine you know, and so to disseminate in have in discriminate, make some choices for myself, and that's why I needed those walkabouts and still do right. I. Mean when you're you talk about your kind of hitting your stride, you're making bank you're in all these movies you move into the Chateau, you're wearing leather pants you're hitting the clock. It's all happening I mean most people would just ride that out and just more and more and more. When am I going to get the house up in the hills and just continue to double down for as long as you know, the industry would allow them to do. So until you're twenty seven years old that seems to be the going age bobby great rock-n-rollers make twenty seven and then they go and they all at the Chateau to. The Chateau they promote a little bit of mischief Magnus and I gave myself some ice in there and you know what? I'm going to test this out. I'M GONNA test out. My. Threshold of hedonism I'm going to I don't want to be harmful don't meaning don't want to be Mean anyone else or myself the same Tom. I'm going to give myself a Saturday night peeled for for for some time and I did it for a couple of years. and then I just noticed that okay this feels revolutionary. Not Evolutionary. This feels like a stop not a stay. This indulgence an option to indulge is not I'm not really feeling an ascension in my life I'm gold where it is I'm not griping about it. I'm enjoying it and I'd be silly if I didn't. But I'm not really feeling build an ascension in my life and I wanna feel build Um so. I signed to get out of there and go away. So I knew at that time the. that. Was a stop and not day I also. During, that time at the end of that time really started to question my belief in God and stuff and so I remember saying. You know okay. You're believer. But why an is your belief is your sense of belief matthew. Fatalistic. Sensibly that it's all fate is, is that it you using hesitant excuse almost ways in your life to let yourself off the hook and I remember on. Well, let's just put two hands on the wheel of self-determination here and let's be our own judge Jury Matt you and let's call it out and not rely on. Hey now you know what you know it's all been written in. So I went through a very call an agnostic time. and. As I said in the book, it wasn't as much of a time where I disbelieve. God. It was a time where I said you need to hold yourself more accountable Matt you need to have both hands on your wheel where you're going because you're letting yourself slide on just about a lot of stuff and I WANNA go test out I wanNA hold you hold you more accountable matthew so I wanted to hold myself more accountable and With to a couple of years at a very good exercise and my relationship with God I, believe I my belief is that Gaba smiling going. Way To, grab a hold of the wheel because I did because you do have free will and and I and it didn't make me think that anything's going to change after this life but it did make me say while minute remember that I've got free choice. Responsible for choices. Well, let's dig a little bit deeper into the faith conversation because I think that green lights really is a spiritual book I mean just on the subject of. Green lights itself. There's this idea that you can catch them by virtue of skill, intent, endurance resilience, discipline, hard work, all of these things. But the flip side of that coin is this idea that you talked about earlier like engineering them and that's about frequency. That's about intuition fate like you just said, it's about finding your way into the zone and it's about how you comport yourself in the world. So you become a magnet for good things as opposed to somebody WHO's chasing though. Yeah. Look say. In the book, appreciate the world's can time's pretty sure. The world's conspiring to make me happy. In what I mean by that is. Someone. Asking this the other day. What are you? What are you? Measure of trust. Where they come from. And how do you? Had you had that people. In my answer which never before until it asked that was. I come into this conversation just meeting you and you have one hundred percent of my trust until you disprove me until you give me reason to distrust I, give everybody have upmost respect and reverence for for people and believe in the goodness of people in that. No one's out to try and harm me. Now I'm not foolish miser open I could listen to. Your questions and maybe I hear you go on I. Think rich is trying to weasel in here trying to do something. That's not really true. But until then I'm going no one hundred percent trust until you prove it otherwise I have learned in, do believe in this relationship responsibility and freedom the responsibility of freedom and the freedom and responsibility that choices we make today. That compound assets in our future they you can t yourself up for more green lights with the choices we make today meaning of I don't lie cheat and steal. But us not to. Now. I think it's very selfish act not to lachine still when someone go wait a minute. Selfish Act to light cheeks to get you want right now. Yeah. Is that really selfish though I don't think so because if you do that. For the rest of your life everywhere you go. You gotTa look shoulder to make sure no one's there in the room that you lie cheat stole from. So when you're looking over your shoulder, you're not spending your time you're spending their time and you're not present. So your stress you really didn't you really wasn't a selfish shack. But it's and yellow lights in your future not the freedom of green. Might I'm trying to live life where I don't leave crumbs and don't have to look over my shoulder don't owe anybody money you know I don't I've I haven't been perfect but but what I screwed up on hopefully gone apologize made amends and probably have to make that a don't know but. I'm trying to make choices where t myself up tomorrow morning at the very basic level. Here's a here's a basic green light. PA- coughing your coffee field the night before. So when you get up tomorrow morning rob, he just push the button because it's hard to make a coffee when you hadn't edgy coffee sometimes and when you don't put the coffee filter, you get up the next morning like why did not myself offer this? Why that kind future self here? Well, there's choices we make every day it'd be kind and cool to our future selves and the Honey Hall of those choices I think which is what I'm chasing is where we make the choices where what we want. Is actually what we need. And what we need. Is actually what we want. That seems to be the honey hole of heaven on earth. Right there were what's good for US selfishly is also what's good for the most amount of people. That's that's where it's. That's the ultimate spot I believe right? To but I'm still chasing it's not dissimilar from twelve steps. I'm in recovery for a long time and so much of the steps are about like putting a person through a program that allows them to make amends for their past behavior redress their character defects. That, you can emerge and navigate the world looking people in the eye telling the truth not being afraid of what's you know your wife's GonNa find your jeans pockets when she's doing the laundry or just being able to like live congruent like where your actions are in alignment with your values and you don't have to look over. Your shoulder or worry about like when that lies GonNa catch up to you. Yeah. I've heard that I've never never been don't really know the twelve steps. I've known some people that are in really enjoyed the conversation where we've found Asana sort of approach in view on things look I've. Tartar. Remember it is. It is. It's work man. It's not done work to try and make up and go to every situation on the minute who all's involved during WANNA screwed over here. What situation Jesus minute stressful. And me I'm a fan of stress and people that go no stress I'm like, what are you talking about but? It's toxic stress that you carry the top. It's odd the right kind life's hard enough with that creating. Extra work for ourselves that's not constructive if we're just running around trying to play defense to cover up our past takes or bust in our ass dealing with stuff than something that's not constructive or affirmatively moving forward we're going to run into enough hill uphill battles without having to deal with. You know sins of our past order things are contracts. We broken our pass men try to gather up too many of them and you got more energy to handle the ones that the the the real battles front of this anyway yeah. Yeah. The other idea that you keep circling back to in the book is this idea of relativity and I'm not sure I. totally grasp where you're coming from with that but it keeps keeps coming up in bold typeface throughout the bus. So. The tool dairy that's come to me is this when faced with the inevitable. Get relative now wind we deem a situation inevitable. That's already a relative question. Let's take covid bright now. Inevitable it's here. Don't deny it. Don't sit here every day getting all excited about maybe tomorrow it's gone because it won't be tomorrow. So. How get relative with this? Okay. Well for me for instance, you can persist their situation you can pivot or you can raise the white flag give to fight another day. Well, we're in Kobe. So let's not raise the flag and say we're GONNA find another day because we're all in it Now. Can I persist through this doing living in expecting everything that I was before covered? You could do that but I don't see the net gain in that because I think it's going to be around here. I got a pit. Pit Get relative with this situation, the inevitable code that run. Enforced to be at home more in quarantine. Don't like that. I don't like that but let me start at the upside here. doing some women Tori myself I'm spending times my kids I'm cooking more with my family in the kitchen. I got my mom with this. So the kids are around their grandmother more than they ever were and she's eight. So that's a good thing Maybe it's been more time writing right now I'm starting to try to find the assets green lights in this red light that that's how I'm choosing to get relative with it. That's a choice we can make with every situation once we deem it inevitable now. If we endure if you if you if you demon outcome of something you want. If. You say well, it's it's inevitable. I. I can't get it if you say that too soon. We're quitter. But if you say it too late, we're acting out the definition of insanity trying to bang our head off trying to get a different outcome by doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over. So we have to measure those things for ourselves. When do we deem a situation naval an outcome inevitable for us or or getting it or not getting, and then how do we get relative with sometimes I need to back off So persistent resilient and say after we approached this way of looking at this. Dance up a different step I gotta throw myself off balance and re approached this circumstance in my life. This questions crossroads that's an art there that we're all trying to. Work out is wind deem something inevitable, and then once we do, how do we get relative with Is that you'll confusing? No, I got it I. Mean it reminds me of the serenity prayer which. God grant me the serenity to accept the things. I cannot change courage to change things. I can in the wisdom to know the difference like it kind of boils down to that but. I'm wondering like does this come? Is this a muscle that you've flexed for? So long that it comes naturally to you or is there like a daily practice? Is gratitude a reflex or is that something that you have to cultivate? For, yourself. Question Look I didn't come. You know it was going back and looking at the fifty years of my life and the thirty six years diaries that revealed that. Understanding. When faced the inevitable get relative it wasn't something that I'd written down or thought over and opined over in the past and then tried to practice as far as gratitude I will you know I was raised on? You know if you come into breakfast in a bad mood, MOMS have get your back in your bedroom. We don't come out here to see the rose in the vase and said the dust on the table who was raised on. Griping of not not having any shoes that right? Oh. Yeah. You think you got it so bad. We'll let me introduce you to kid with no feet Whoa Shit okay. Talk about relativity we were raised on. Being thankful that the sun came up another day and that better be enough for you to be happy today that better be enough for you to stanton tall because that wasn't a guarantee. So what are you going to do with it? We were raised on drop down to rock bottom and be thankful for things that we take for granted everyday. So. has that triggered me through life to maybe see in be have. Thanks for certain things that maybe I should just expect. Sure probably. At the same time. You know I've got a pretty had a pretty good threshold for taking the context of the situation. Pretty early in in circumstance in going. All right. What's my risk reward here? How do I get what I want here is what I want really what I need. All right. What's the long term long money are Oh, I on the choice I make here and my doing something being eccentric for Eccentricity Sake. Yeah well as nothing constructive about that. That's kind of not worth shit as fad It's not GonNa last what two lasting joyce that make here that's going to be good for me and good for the whole situation that I can sleep well with it's not gonNA. Wake me up the middle of the night on how you do that. I'M NOT GONNA wake up tomorrow morning go regret it or think it was a one off flash in the PAN trying to make choices that are going to have long money. ones that are going to last one that are gonNA GONNA feed. My Good Wolf instead of my bad wolf. so Lot of it I think has been instinct, and then I'm just now trying to put it into words into a theory that I can go out. Remember that you can apply that new is that situation inevitable when you deem it such and how do you get relative with it? So it was a way of just almost academically intellectualize ing something that maybe has been an instinct for me that. I. Noticed in looking at my diaries and how I got out of situation to turn some red lights in disagreed lies. So it's not a function of every day get up and at this time, this is one I sit down and journal and I actively try to make a gratitude list or anything like that. It's it's it's a more ephemeral kind of thing. No, it's more of a I'M NOT A. It's more of a I like to say this way in a Newark columnist for about four years now. No audition, it's live you're in the movie. It's all happening. Life is the movie you wake up it's other record button is always on it's always on so When inspired do it the we don't have to preparation preparation. What will it live? Go now do it quit talking about it? I, mean work it out on at times being live is preparing. I'm a big prepare roles work and preparing for things but. Trying to look at his like at times my life where I sat there and prepare, prepare, prepare, prepare prepare looked up in three years. He never gotten a game still prepare and what are you doing? Go go what are you afraid of failing hop in the game of life? So yeah, it's more of a it's more been an instinct that I'm just now sort of defining. One of the things that you say in the book that is really stuck with me I mean it I highlighted a bunch of stuff, but this is the one that really stood out to me. The most is this idea of being less impressed more involved S. I love that and so concisely put and it's profound because it applies to so many things like less impressed with yourself less impressed with other people not trying to chase other people's ideas of what you should could need to be. Trying to find your moral center and the path to that is to immerse yourself to give of yourself and service to others but to be involved in your community to you know engage with the world in a deeper way. Engage with yourself in a deeper way I mean if I. Have a reverence for you rich right now. It's I can have. Long wanted to talk to you man I just think you're like trust. I'm fighting it right now. Dude I'm so happy to be talking to you and it's like. The people pleaser in me is what I'm trying to keep at bay. So I can just be present and involved in this conversation. If you succumb to that and you were GonNa go people believe you wouldn't be overly impressed with me. You wouldn't be involved in this conversation to. Be. had. Reverence for you to that you were above mortality for me. I couldn't actually be giving my true self to you in this conversation because I'm removed from it. So. If I ever reverence I noticed it was soon after my father died when this came to me. Fame money people that I was like. Wow. My Dad's passing gave me the gift to go no all mortal things. Better. Look at them and I level. At the same time, the underbelly of that is all the things you're patronizing mckanna in looking down on and condescending. sloughing off is not worthy rose up to I level the world was flat. I could see wider further and more clearly in I stood up straighter half inch taller and looked at the Ango. Look to the Rodeo buddy time to get on the bull quit relying on dad make sure he's got you back. If you fall off that was part of being. So it happens you know and so how do I do that? How do we do that with full respect? I have full respect for you. You'RE GONNA have full respect for me but now we can still be involved in the conversation because if one person is on the pedestal above humanity mortality can't be involved with it. And it's not even fair to that person. It happens in relationships. You'll see somebody in a relationship and I've been in them where. Female thinks I'm Superman and I think she's wonder woman. That relationship ain't GonNa go too far. Because we're both holding each other on an unlivable expectation, the pedestal neither one can live up to it, and we're neither one is really involved with each other humanly because we have such reverence for the other projection. Yeah. So I don't mean any lack of respect don't have less respect actually more respect but respect is a more more understanding who are accurate I can engage but I have too much of a reverence for you or anyone else I can't really be involved with them. And they can't involve with me So if if the if the tables turn so that's that less impressed. Warhol is You know it's a bit of the you know the I in the sky when here in the in the palm of the hand of God or the cradle of when you when you think you've got a figured out, go to that Google map. Pov and look this little bitty dot on this spinning planet called Earth and this whole thousands of years tans of time move and you notice how meaningless You are and you we look at it Oh Jeez, none of it matters. which is a very liberating feeling good. Takes the pressure off. Jeeze none of it matters. But at that same time what has happened to me is going Oh. and. That's exactly why it all matters. Here we go. Now we're on the our. You know just when I saw a little I mattered is usually when it's come to me, how much it all matters well, there's a humility in that right and I think humility is hard to come by for everybody in certain times throughout their life. But you know for somebody who kind of exists in the world at this strange you know level of stratosphere how do you like the connection to that kind of humility so that you can be involved in the world I mean is that you always seem to carry yourself with that and you've never not had that and I have to imagine that part of that is because you've made this choice to. Be in the world in certain way whether it's at the RV Park or you know on the Amazon or wrestling in Africa. Like. That keeps you grounded and levelheaded about you know who you are and where you where you sit in the grand scheme of everything year will also some of those experiences that had. been better than fiction for me remain some of those stories I'm like Oh Jeez Hollywood wrote this no one will believe it. So they were more extraordinary in ways to me at the time You know humility that's a that's been a word that I've wrestled with all my life because for so long I, had the wrong definition of it. Humility to be humbled humility, we all say have humility but no one likes to be humiliated. Oh wait a minute. What's the next to that word? How can I be humble but still confident? How can I be humbled but still have identity. It wasn't until a few years ago and I think this definition came Jordan Peterson definition of humility which I do purchase, which is admitting you have more learn. And that definition I lose no competence or lose no identity in but very quick to go. Yup I got more to learn. Now if I can call that humility and go into the world everyday gone, I. Know I have more learn. I can move confidently with humility and be humble but boy early definitions of humility in my mind were. Almost arrogant false modesty none on that And I remember this this was a heart back to this. Moment in high school, there was a girl release Sherman. And I Remember Act Short School one day I was a junior. And she did. She was a friend should a friend of mine we never dated friend she goes she's coming because you know what Matthew mcconaughey. You're a handsome man and I went Oh, come out released delbra. She grabbed my hand sternly looking at because. Don't you dare me that I don't know? No no no. No. Because you know what you need to do some competent like that the truth ago what she goes. Say, thank you. And I remember going. A. Okay. And it hit me. But I didn't learn really had a blitz and understand humility always almost a regressive feels like the word vulnerability still wrestling with what that word means and how to feel still feel empowered in that part of what I've come up with that that I it helps me understand that my relationship, the words humility vulnerability is that like I know I want to be in the know I love being in a now. But. I'm still learning to be in the know is also knowing what you don't know. I WanNa know what I don't know so that's another version of understanding the definition of humility for me that feels empowers me but still has me be home Close cousin of that those ideas humility vulnerability is is authenticity and you know you're arc and your journey is very much. One of you know trying to get closer to the Authentic Matthew is at least that's I got out of the book. And I think a really powerful kind of luster tive example of that is the McConnell. Can we talk about that a little bit because it's such a epic pivot Theme in your book I don't know if this is a spoiler but you admit in the book that you're the one who actually came up with that word. Yes. Would not have? Thought. So that's that's being vulnerable to admit that you're the one who crafted that and then live came. That's the one piece of the book, My wife's. Put. Innocent until Eric and I was like, no, I would raise. You know admitted it. It was look I felt I was aware enough at the time that I've. Run into. Few. GonNa run of a few films that were had their. Relatively hit and made their mark and I was getting some know adulation people people in the interviews are you're really on a great run here? And it came to me that this term like Scrape Ryan great run and I was in the telluride or one of those film festivals. And said. Being. A lover bumper stickers and slogans like I gotTA. Give this album. I. Love Album here you know sound Vissel Movement I'm on that people were saying on it was like. McConnell. I said, well, I can't come forward and say Yeah I, call it the because. In this interview. And thought about this at the moment the guy went on interview was Gone Yeah you've been on this Ron Woah will you've been? Talking to report the other day and he actually called it a Mukasa. Because a McConnell go. Yeah. Oh, that's great. I love it McConnell. Like that I'm like, yeah, I mean he said it sounded like comes off the tongue pretty easy. Sounds pretty cool to say I'm with it. We wrote that and then it picked. People gone. And I just got a with it and so then in the book I decided to say you know what I'm the only planning. I love that I. think that's Hilarious Man. But what's amazing about it Everybody knows the story they know that movies you were doing, and then the movies you ultimately ended up doing. But that period. I didn't realize was how much intention and mindfulness went into making that pivot that it wasn't. First of all went on longer than I thought and then also that it was very much plan like if I can't do things that interest me that intrigue me as an artist and as a human being like I'm GonNa opt out purposefully. and. Be Willing to suffer the consequences of not making any income and having your wife by your side for that period of time. Now you know you, it's not like you couldn't put food on the table, but still it's scary in Hollywood suddenly say I'm not going to do that. Are you going to be obsolete? Will you ever work again and you went through? A really extended period of time where it wasn't clear that you were ever GonNa make your way back. No, it wasn't and I didn't know how long the sort of Sabbatical drought would go on and I shed media tear on my wife's shoulder one. With. What I what I was getting from my career, what it wasn't getting my career. I was rolling with Rom coms at the time I was. Wrong COM ECONO- hey, shirtless on the beach and I looked at the eye and still do and go. You're damn right. I was wrong. Comes paid rent for those houses that had on the beach where island shirts guilty fact. I remember seeing you on the beach one time in math I think you were renting a house with lance for a period of time I remember that. I was running down the beach and I saw you guys out there. Yes. Indeed. So but I looked at my life. And I remember I just had a newborn chameleon I just had Levi in the one thing I knew I always wanted to be as a father now come true. And my life fool man was so vital I would have had had more rage I had more joy had more happiness I laughed lower cried harder. Who's just my life? The ceiling in the basement of my emotions were full. In my life. But my work. was. Like Another arm come I love doing these There's a new script do that tomorrow morning I think I could wake up and do that I was like Well, that's not bad but Jeez I wanNA sure would like to do some work that scares me in the right way. The makes me go woo Hoo I'm not sure what I'm GonNa do this role and this is GonNa be an experienced and I wasn't getting those roles. So yes, I, couldn't Whoa rose I wanted to do we're not being offered so because I couldn't do what I wanted to do i. Stopped doing what I was doing and I remember I called my money manager to money you've invested well okay. Good. Because I'm about to take off work and I don't know when I'll get work again call agent I talked to Camilla about it and she said she repeated my dad's words to me. Okay. If GONNA do this don't half ass it. We're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA do it. So I said no more gosh. Well. Nothing came in nothing was offered except. For the first six months after that. And I have that you know how puritanical wasn't have that story about getting an eight million dollar offer for a rom in reading it. Gun. Good script but no. Thank you. then. They came back and offered ten million dollars I said no thank you. Didn't they offered twelve point five million dollars and I said. ELLIPSES ELLIPSES ellipses. Nothing then they came back at fourteen point five, you know what I said. Read. That's grip again. And Again. And you know what it was better. Written than the original one at a million dollar offer it was had more angles I saw more opportunity more ways that could make it work it mind you. It was the exact same words as the original. Offer, it was a better written script. But I said No. and. Then that sort of seemed to get the signal across Hollywood McConnell, he's not bluffing. He's really not doing any ROM coms action comedies right now. So what came in for the next year nothing? Nothing I mean checking with my agent every couple weeks but it was basic nothing not persona non grata nothing's coming in for you. Now twenty months into the Sabbatical. I'm in Texas you haven't seen Aram calm. You haven't seen me share on the bauge everything that you expected to see me and I would sweat tour pigeonholed me into only being that and not considered for other roles. Twenty months into that all of a sudden what I think happened is. Some producers and directors in Hollywood It'd be an interesting. To cash for this role. In killer joe paper. Boy. Magic. Mike True. Detective Dallas Buyers Club. It'd be an interesting choice a novel choice. mccown Hey. But I would not have been a novel choice for those things. Twenty months earlier, right so we'll EHRLICH got is that was branding time for me again back to process of elimination I couldn't do what I wanted to do. So I just to eliminate what I didn't WanNa do anymore and. UNBRANDED for twenty months. No one knew I was and I wasn't also also was not in your household or on your TV screen your theater being what you would expect me to be. And so became a new good idea and that was a that was a sacrifice and I didn't know win that damn thing was going to end or if it was I entertained different career paths I entertained getting out of entertainment industry altogether thought I might be fourth grade teacher thought it might be a high school football coach Wow did seriously really d that's that's hard to believe. You really were doing that. Yeah. Wow. I thought I might get back into law. I considered. You know being an orchestra conductor. Well there's a couple lessons in that I mean one is back to this idea of of magnetising the green light like ultimately and the second being you know saying, no in order to get the Yes, right like you had to do. There was this pallet cleanser that Hollywood had to endure to get to the point where suddenly. You're a good idea when you weren't before and that required you to say, no, I mean, I don't know how many people have the gumption to say, no to fifteen million dollars to do movie for a couple months ultimately, it pays off and it shows the power of that but it takes a lot of fortitude and conviction to commit to something like that and faith and belief to foresee that at some point it's GonNa pay off. Yeah. Well, you look at the Australian Story Exchange Student Per Year I couldn't even believe that story a stall. True. Have you have you gotten back in touch with that family? Yeah every time I do Australian Press A. Show up on. and. That year. Before I. Went on that year the Rotary Club who sponsored me me to sign the contract to say, I won't come home until years done. And I said no you that going for a year and then go now and that's what everybody says. But YOU'RE GONNA. Get home if you WANNA come home and I, said, you know what? I'll shake your hand out but I'm not saying that thing will they agreed on a handshake and I agreed on a handshake will trust me read that there are many times at full good reason to get the hell out of dodge and come back home but I was like no man I'm in this I've got finished out there something in this for me there is a. Green Light in. Hardship experienced that I'm going through this insanity I'm going through there's a reason for it to stick with don't pull the parachute. Well same thing with The the Sabbatical of not working once I was in it. I was like I'm not going I'm not in almost gained more confidence as I went going. No, it's just getting arlier with every day. You're not GonNa get our Oh you're in it now, McConnell Hey, this is this is this upside down backwards stick with it. There's really something good good. So when those jobs did come that I wanted to do I was ferocious on those things I I mean, I my things were long and I chewed them up in went hardcore into So. Yeah let's by saying no and I have you know there's great? Prudence in sticking through sticking with resistance. You. Know. Look. Let's talk about this time we're in. Moishe. Code was Gong tomorrow which would have never been here. So I want to preface this next thing I say with that. But as a people. Individuals in a society. Is there value in it? To ourselves even though we will have more tragedies and losses of life, will we have greater value and understanding of agreement in the future if for it for longer because we paid the pinch longer because we were stripped to aren't assesses longer because we went through this resistance longer and we're pulling our hair out of our heads. When we come out, we don't just snap back to right where we were before because we're humans are tricky. Man We we we can say we go through change we intellectually talk about it but boy, we go right back to old habits like that. Even bad habits. We go back to them and so. Unless. It's the consequences are not for the unrest, the disruption and goes on long enough for us to go. No, my floor has literally been moved I am changing my priorities about what I value in life because of this hardship it has to go on things. We're we're we're sort of. Our muscle memory switches go right back to where we used to pretty quickly unless it's long enough it to pay, you can't be the Phoenix unless you burn. You. GotTa Burn I. GotTa. Burn got has got to be in like. He's got to burn. You GotTa look down and you gotta find lots we have to scarred not like, ooh, that was hot. Not like left a little Blackmar oh shit no I. got a scar the flight from getting burn. Oh well now, I'm really making the change I mean we're. We're we're. We're a what's the word were hardheaded like that. In as people we we LECTU. That of these things change. But very quickly where we revert right back Charles old habit even if they're bad unless dependence has gone for a long enough time. Yeah. There's always opportunities in these setbacks and in this moment of forced repose amongst the Economic Challenges and everything that so many people are enduring right now there's the general discomfort of being still with oneself. That's so difficult. Right? Like this mirror is up in front of us and it's forcing us to reckon with our living our lives because we can't move right now we have to be. In that discomfort and debilitating for a lot of people. But if you can open your aperture to it, there's so much to be learned from that and you don't have to go to the Amazon. We're stuck at home on zoom but we have that Opportunity Open your aperture to we are in forced winter right now and many of us including may needed to take one ourselves anyway. We'll. Now it's take. We all got the permanent. We're all on it. We got our first winter. It's forced time to be introspective time to do inventory whether you want to or not down necessities. What do we got? How do I navigate who am I? Can't go anywhere. Well, what's one of our? Part pull in the parachute is Lonnie. I'm going out. Going out to dinner. Go come on. Let's go get together. There's some prudent and being forced with ourselves and hopefully we're taking enough of us can take the opportunity that's there in that to revolve. Yes. Yeah. How do you feel about? This you know later chapter in the mckanna sense of you becoming like this. Grew you know this person of wisdom that I don't know when it began. Maybe it began when you gave a commencement speech. But at some point, you kind of went from Matthew the actor into somebody who was was basically imparting life lessons to the world like do think about that or how do you feel about that? was that intentional or is it just a byproduct of who you are? It started off more a byproduct and then has gained some intention along the way. You know to go back to that it's live. We're all on the show, the recording the cameras. and. Ask Myself. Are you making legacy choices for yourself right now? Are you? Living Away Live. That is useful for yourself and others. Look I'll say this I go back to University of Texas and. I had an idea for script to screen class is a professor but in my mind, I'm still like I'm talking to students I feel like I was there the other day, but then I start sharing things with them and they're going whoa that's awesome. Thank you for timing that unlike that wasn't obvious and I'm like, no, we didn't know that and so I started to go wait a minute. You Got Twenty eight years of experience of acting in being on Sets Matthew, oh Jeez tried add that you do have some experience that may be in eight to you. Now, that is novel to a student. So you do have something to share some experiences share that maybe someone else didn't have I you know. Dip share in this book is got quite a few tools in it for had find frequency individually in hopefully as a collective, we're going through a time right now great distrust will not to believe in you don't trust trust others sudden look up you don't trust yourself and that little revolution can go back and forth when I don't trust myself now really don't trust you now I don't believe myself now don't don't believe in anything and. Are Dead in streets ultimately. So how do we rebuild some trust I? Think is through values I think values are bipartisan nondenominational I. Think those are the solid stepping stones that need to each look in the mirror and ask ourselves a week better out on a daily basis, and that'll be incremental steps out of this time into hopefully a more evolved mainly. In help us look back at twenty twenty as an actual red banner year of recreation and recreation and new beginning I try to share what I know. I also showed a don't know I share questions a lot people for instance, come to me a lot about L. They love the foul Dr Chee interviewed right. I didn't reveal anything novel in that I like everybody was just saying like. Can I get a bullet point sheet on the to do's and the not to do? Can you say real clearly because there's no consensus here mannequin US I mean not that not long version just a short. Yes. No do this don't do that, and so I just went on a rapid fire him and didn't ask questions that have not been brought up. They just hadn't been for a lot of people hadn't been brought up in a succinct way so. I said, you know, do I have a platform where maybe someone else already knows that information but maybe I got a platform or someone else is going to hear maybe listen to me in a way they wouldn't listen to someone else. Or maybe they didn't hear it right? Yeah. Let's go. Have those conversations the Minister of course work I'm doing right now is lot based on that and that's me. You know saying I'm stepping into plan. My favorite character. That's me saying, go play you. In the character of you in life things that wake you up at two in the morning I've been writing down in my diary since I was fourteen. It's always about culture that how do we get along? What's our individual responsibilities? How do we get to freedom? How are we responsible for freedom in? How Does Freedom Habits responsibilities? What should I expect of you? What should you expect of me? Can we have a social contract here as humans? Because right now, such contracts broke right where my purse why? Why are they broke partially maybe I broke my own social contract. Maybe I've let myself slide on things and to go out and act like episodes contract with you. I'm just acting like want to not be in one wait a minute I'm not GonNa let that pass got to be one of any to be one that voluntary obligation we need to make voluntary pledges with ourselves, what we expect of ourselves so we can expect from others and if we get that reciprocity going, then collect enough of us do that then we collectively make change. Ideas this. GotTa Remember Never GonNa Arrive. Destination. I. Don't you know. It's it's like our lives. And say America the Langston Hughes Point America yet. That's what should we should be chasing yet. We never get there with the social, the Cultural Revolution going we're not going to get to perfect justice. But. If we can make an incremental. In forward that it could stay in the race commit to the chase and with ourselves can we just keep chasing our better selves a little bit Canoga screw up along with can American just keep we're aspiration. Our lives are aspiration. America is an aspiration is chasing of yet and I. think that's what we ultimately are is individuals we all should be chasing are what more fun wild adventures thing to chase life than yourself. Well, there's a, there's a number bridled optimism to that. That's infectious in that I, love and I don't want to take up too much of your time we can. We can end on this. You know I can't let you go without digging a little bit more deeply into kind of where we're at. in this American experiment right now, we're headed into an election. We are extremely divided communities families. Individuals are having difficulty finding common ground being able to even effectively communicate, and there is this you know layer of of whether it's fake news or misinformation that's confusing people and driving us apart and I had this sense of US fracturing and I'm trying to figure out how to get my hands around it, how I can communicate with my brothers and my sisters how I can be more empathetic like how can we look to what unites us to our commonalities which are so much more robust than the details that might divide us on paper or on social media but I find myself concerned about what I'm seeing and where we're heading. So how do we? How do we right the ship math break question? This problem for me and he'll for us. Oh Wow. Yeah. Right you know some at early. Times of great distrust. In others in ourselves are so contractor broken on personal contracts broken. We don't have expectations of ourselves or others right now, the private sector down to the individual has more power than ever. We can't trust our leadership politics broken business. What we want and people security. We're all individuals. Wait a minute. What's worse the collective? Got It we got all this is being politicized long way. The body counts are being added up for which side of the which side of the aisle wants to win. That's the only numbers. Each side is counting We got an election year, we're going to have a civil war. Man Can we get to January twenty, twenty one, which is a symbolic day. But nothing more than symbolic day. Do we have a ten year restoration? Do we have a twenty year restoration? I don't know how long. It'll go what can we rely on? apathy wanting a little amnesty right now it's tough time for everybody. I don't know how to make a collective change I. Don't know how to make an overall systemic. Change Our law I don't think people want to be legislated like that. I think it again comes down to. Each one of us need to look in the mirror. Go can be a little bit better. What can I do a little bit there? I'd be great to be perfect. There is no best that can be a little bit better. How can be more fair? How can I? Understand that my brother and sister are also hurting maybe in more in different ways than I am. How can have a conversation without a condemnation? How can I have patients take a breath and listen. And let someone who hasn't been heard speak. More loudly than maybe they need to. But hero, how do we make this time I just a flash in the PAN how how do we be honest for the choices we make for ourselves selfishly are also the best choices for the most people in the does not need specific recipe for that but take that into consideration when we make our choices for ourselves. Again responsibility and freedom we're going to have to build our way out of this time it we're gonNA have to break a damn sweat for a while. And I think we have to have that long view? That feeling like this go on for awhile and how can we make that a pair of our daily instincts of how we go about our lives? How do we treat ourselves? How do we treat our loved ones? How do we treat our employees? How do we treat people who work with? How do we treat what we're building? What are we are we just for profit or own for purposes? Well. What's your purpose? I'm not interested in politics I'm interested in some purpose though politics have broken business. So. That's what I mean by the private sector down to the individual you have more power right now to define your future than ever. Because, you actually don't have anywhere anyone else up there. No Institution to rely on for that guidance. Understand that man social going what the hell man give me a map. I don't know what to trust in. I. Don't know what's a consensus here Some of us are going to do well, right now just keep your head above. Just trying to make it through this time. It's going to pass gun be moving forward. We are not turning the page it though. When the time comes to turn the page on Kobe when the time comes to turn the page on the Cultural Revolution. Illinois it's GonNa work. Is it the collective all of us? Every color you've got code if he don't every color of skin, do it together to some form or fashion I think. You know as much as we are a nation of individuals in love our individualism. We are failing at any sort of. Collective responsibility we have failed with the mask of CNN as a civic duty instead of a damn. Don't you tell me what to do, bullshit? It's it's the wrong kind of selfish. It's actually not a selfish move to to fight those fights. There is a responsibility that we can choose to take. For him with each other and ourselves and those two are not exclusive. values. My hunch is at lives in. Responsibility Accountability risk taking since humor the list goes on and on and on that we can spill kind of a little more fair a little more empathetic understanding lumo forgiving also holding on we there's no there's GonNa to be a free ride I'm not in for a world combined. Now, we going to work and. Great thing about America. Is when America's working right is. If you're willing to work at something in educate yourself and go after something you. More. So than anywhere else should have the opportunity to achieve. But not without the work navigation in the hassle to go do it so. You know I'd say this man start off trying to create more green light for yourself and others and see where those two mayt see actually being self less is actually a very selfish act created more for others is actually very selfish for yourself as well and make sure you're trying to make sure you're selfish choices for yourself. Also liked the way for more people as well. Boom, beautifully put. Thank you. Now is incredible. I appreciate your time today. I enjoyed superfund man. Thank you. The book is Incredible Green Lights Available Everywhere Oct twenty is the day comes out. Over twenty this year. You've been attacking this thing like it's the release of a blockbuster movie like all. You've been out there man like this is going big and wide I can tell already. Well that time approaching it look this is the truest permanent extension of me. That I've ever been a part of. And to whatever extent I'm I'm honored with that and I and I want to it's it's the first time. You know if I look at like the movie which I have. I wrote. I directed. I and. You know what I mean I. I did. Yeah. So I'm not acting someone else's script being directed by someone else. Oh, it's truest permanent extension of May that I've ever put out in. That scary and and all those things and yes, I hadn't had my chinstrap on him a mouthguard in while I was writing it. Did Incredible Job I love the book I read it in just two sittings super enjoyable and I think it's Gonna I think it's really it's going to help a lot of people to. Going to help a lot of people. Hope. So that'd be great. Cool. Alright. Hope to meet you in person one day. But until then best best along with L.. At some point hopefully, we'll go to that trip with Dan. Good deal thanks dude I appreciate it now, Solanki. Yeah. Right on piece. Okay How unbelievably awesome was that? Could you imagine if Matthew was your college professor? I don't know about you, but I can listen to that silky smooth southern drawl all day long I wanNA thank my pals, Damn Butte and earn Ryan holiday for helping connect the dots to make this happen be sure to check out green lights available everywhere while you're at it, make sure to preorder my new book voicing change in addition which you can find. At ritual dot com slash VC. Let me ask you know how this one landed for you on his socials. 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Guys Willie Geist here with another episode of The Sunday, sit down podcasts. My thanks as always clicking and listening along. got a truly great one for not that they're all great. But a truly great one this week with Oscar winner Matthew mcconaughey who does not love McConnell. Hey. We I fell in love with a guy back in nineteen ninety three when he played Woodson in the movie dazed and confused remember he was the twenty something guy who is still hanging out with the high school kids in town kind of a local legend who uttered the phrase alright. Alright. Alright. Did you know? Those three words were the first line ever delivered by Matthew mcconaughey in a movie it was his first acting job and that was his first line from there. He went on three years later to star in a time to kill opposite Sandra Bullock. That's when he really became a movie star then he went through the two thousands as this. Romantic comedy guy doing movies with Kate, Hudson, and J. Lo, and at long list of romantic comedies and then two thousand eight just goes dark. He was offered at one point. You'll hear talk about it fourteen and a half million dollars to do another. Comedy and he said, no, that's how serious he was about kind of things in a new direction in his career. So he goes away for twenty months almost two years. Comes back and just takes dramatic roles. Culminating in Dallas Buyers Club for which he won the Oscar. For Best Actor, of course, he did true detective which an amazing Hbo Series and so much more since then and now he's out with this book called Green Lights, it is the story of his life. He went back and looked at the diaries he has kept for thirty five or thirty six years since he was fourteen years old, he's fifty now. But last year he took all those diaries went to a cabin with no electricity in the middle of nowhere and read through them in realized there's some good stories in here I should put them in a book because I think a lot of people can relate to them. Most of US met Matthew, mcconaughey as a movie star but there's a lot of life for him before he got into the business Amazing. Truly like eye-popping some of them shocking stories in the book about his childhood and growing up in South West Texas you day Texas including some scenes in his home of violence between his parents violence toward him and we have kind of a a deep conversation about what he took away from that what it means to him. So so much to talk about with Matthew mcconaughey around his new book called Green Lights Right now on the Sunday, sit down podcast. Matthew thanks for doing this man. Appreciate it. You're welcome with a good to be here. Can congratulations on the book I have spent the last two days in it can't put down. and. There's so many things to talk about in here but I think mostly my big takeaways people perceive you as this guy who kind of glides through life dances between the raindrops movie star, but there man is so much more to it when you read reading here. So why did you want to commit all this to a book because there are no punches pulled it's all in here. Yeah. I, do. Dance between the raindrops. And if combat dry many. I also dancing the raindrops in come out soaking wet. Life it's all the fun of it. So or the adventure of it at least not been keeping diaries for thirty six years. Threatening to go. Revisit those diaries for the last fifteen wondering if they're maybe wordsworth sharing in there, and then it wasn't until about two and a half three years ago that I got the courage to actually take wingo. See what was in there when I did I found seven sort of categories where all all the diaries lined up. There were stories, people, places. Prescribes poems, prayers, and a whole lot of bumpers to. Sort of okay. That's not bad title right there. I look through those and found. Found a theme theme of Green Lights came out meaning I've found. Green lights are things. We liked life's they say go they affirm our way they approve what we're doing. They say, yes, they give us freedom. We don't like Red Yellow Lights, their hardships interventions they make a slow down or stop and get in our flow. When I found that I had. Created a lot of green lights by decisions I made choices. I make today create a green light for in the future. gave me delayed gratification I found that many green lights have been thrown down lap is in the form of opportunities and found places right to good vantage those opportunities places where I didn't take advantage of some of these opportunities could have been in green light never game one. I also found that all the red yellow lights in my life. The hardships the time when I was lost in searching and trying to figure stuff out getting very wet. To. Raindrops. That there were they had green light assets invested in them sometimes I noticed that the green light while I was in them the hardship sometimes, I didn't notice until tomorrow the next week months some of them I noticed ten fifteen years down the road some of my still have not. Reaped the been the green light benefits of my red light to my life, and I believe is that all of the red neon lights in all of our lives eventually turn green or at least reveal the green light assets in them through the lessons we learned through. was that daunting to go back through thirty, five, thirty, six years of diaries where you scared about doing that worried about what you might find when you open those books? Yes. Very much. I feared embarrassment. Shame. All both of which I had when I went back and looked at them but I also found this some of the things i. Thought I'd be only embarrassed about I laughed my blood offhand Larry's some of the things that I Thought, it'd be shamed about I found that I had forgiven myself or forgave myself in the writing the book with them. So it was daunting the hardest part though like most of the things we do call even working out the hardest part about going to work out put your damn shoes on. Antenna. The hardest part was going okay I'm doing this load up the car take the treasure chest diaries were going away. We're not coming back until we have something after I did that. I let the dyers tell me what was in there, and then found central themes in started. Did you know at it and put things together and try to create columns in dramatics through the through the book all leading towards what's on the title Green Light, and that became a very fine. It was very hard I average seventeen our days it took fifty two total days of writing and solitaire in solitude, and then over the last year and a half editing what I read to, what does that look like you say packing up the car going out into solitude with your diaries you went to the desert what are we talking about? Here. You in the desert with a stack diaries where you camping out there what was that like there was a a friend who had property in the middle of nowhere and she had a small cabinet that I went to. The first twelve days were no electricity just me and my diaries to go and no cell service Internet service just I didn't want anything intruding on my top wanted to if all I had if all I had with, me was my diaries then that's all I can obsess on and if I get bored her mind starts wondering just go back to those what you're here for be fully singularly obsessed with those. So that was me in my life of fifty years together alone the first days after that the next place inc a generator. Then I moved to place with a little bit of electric city I brought a printer with me I transported transcribing things onto laptop things that weren't already. And I would go and like ten to twelve day little runs. Go Away and come back handle honeydews at home and get get boundary balanced with the family and then look for another free time. Then head up The hard part of that was coming home and not. Staying on the writing because I was. You know I'd be but my wife was very good about she was like. Don't come back until you're fulfilled with what you've done on this run of writing. So I had a I had a good support system by me as well. Doing it. I get why you wanted to read through those kind of rediscover yourself and you said, forgive yourself a little bit. But then there's a leap to make all that public in a book. So what was the moment where you said boy this is interesting and maybe Cathartic for me but I also think it's worth telling the world about yeah great question I mean I understood early on math McConnell has it celebrity is going to sell certain amount of books people will buy them. Because a magnet high, they're also got a few people that will not buy it because it's just let me book by Math Guy. So I remember writing to myself on day four. The words on these pages need to be worthy of sharing if they're signed by anonymous, but at the same time via book that only I could have written. So that was my sort of measure of like. Excellence of what I needed to put down what the words needed to at least be from Jeddah point of view. I've been found this I found that the more personal I got. The more relatable stories in the prescribes and the whatever wisdom's in their became. The more I shared subjective experiences of mine the more I saw and was felt assured that other people say, Oh, I, see myself in that. I've had a situation like that my life. Oh, this is a way to go about Oh. This is how I went about it. What did it give me later on? What did that decision give me later on like did it by me more Roi Return on my investment? Ourselves in the future. And the stories are just plain out wild in adventures anyway. So it's not a, it's not a it's not an s sort of academe agreed you know it's more of a philosophical adventure story with some some some wisdom along the way and it's quite balanced as you open up I get away with a lot of things I pull a lot of things off. I do come out dancing through the raindrops absolutely dry many circumstances. It's also equally balanced with times where I had grand plans to come out dry and came soaking wet. And did not pull things off and looking at those as part of lives adventure instead of regretting them refilling Oh that's failure going now that you stayed in the game stay in the game, which is where really would just living just what else we here to do Just keep living to stay in the game and I write in the book lifesaver We don't have that Totta moment where we arrive and go now I've got it all figured out now I've done it as far as I can tell that moment doesn't exist. When you see celebrity written book like this, you might think all right I'm GonNa get a little taste of what he's like I like I got the whole meal reading this I mean was there anything that you left out? was there any line that you wouldn't cross and say that belongs to be here that belongs to my mom or something that you didn't WanNa put out in the public. Sure I mean look there's. Tele Book as you say, I, don't I don't I don't tell tall. Tales on people. It was very conscious. Go even if I was the main character in a certain story, you know what? That's not really my story to tell that'd be trespassing on that other person's privacy, their own privacy or maybe privacy of a moment that we had nobody else's business thought it'd be indecent and nothing constructive about sharing that. I, bring up things early in the book with one liners and a lot of unwritten about lately about. How lost my virginity for instance, I didn't choose to go into the details of that story or stories like that because. I didn't see if he constructed from I didn't see a lesson that was learned. Those were moments in time that I was very clear when they were happening. This is wrong. This is not ideal. This is a red. Light. But. I don't need this psychologically unpack this for the rest of my life. I don't have a constructive story of a way to handle it better. It was clear to me at the time when those those things happening that this is not how I planned. This is not how I would wish I wouldn't wish this moment on anybody but to go into the details of it. I just felt like the reason I didn't go into details on some of those felt like it would prop up for to be heard would prop it up to be like that. You know Oh that's a great thing to in this day and age to let's make that the headline in go into certain salacious details of that, which would take the eye off the ball take the eye off the ball. The whole book is. Is there something therapeutic about that saying it out loud even him you don't get into the details as you say, it's painful. Now you've now you've said it there's threat it's therapeutic and that is free. I write in the book, but not leaving crumbs or not. We all have certain things that are for ourselves and not for anyone else I've got I've got him to but to share those things and in a non sentimental way or in a way that I I in a way that I never felt victimized by those things but to own up to him, share my scars. And not look for. Someone's. Pity or not look for someone to come that go we need to really break this down the hell with this. What this has done to you whatever whatever they did to me it's it's it's who I am and I have lived through it and I was very clear. Those things were not ideal or not that they were wrong riding in a in a someone asks the day I you know if they happen to me younger in life if I'd have had any confusion about them being right or wrong that could have been more traumatic. But at the time I was there was no confusion. That's wrong. Man. I was in the I ended up in a bad spot. This is not how I saw it. I don't ever want to be here again. So the clarity of that allowed me to sort of compartmentalized. Put it back and go. I'M NOT GONNA go into details of that and share because I don't see anything constructive about that but it is. It's details like that though I think why the book is. So fascinating is because you arrive to most of us as a movie star we saw you in a time to kill or dazed and confused, and you were always Matthew mcconaughey the now here, the twenty three or twenty five years that preceded that including the first story in the book. Once you've introduced the concept and explain what green lights are that incredible. Breathtaking seen with your parents fighting in the kitchen with blood and catch up on the floor and everything that happens after that and you talk about it. You say the love was real. It was bloody sometimes but never in question when you're looking at something like that as a kid, this scene in that kitchen, do you know that's wrong or did this come later this epiphany later that that was actually you were watching love in some form well, I I I was scared at the moment. But? Even then immediately after that I didn't Ever question. The love that mom and dad had or the love that they gave us never questioned and I think it's why tell when I've always in my life when people tell us about you seem like you, you really love your family and your mom and dad and how you raise and I tell, Yeah. When I tell the stories, I tell these stories that are bloody and ugly sometimes violent. And I think the reason I tell him is that those were times where the love that we had that was never question was most challenged. But never had a chance be. So the love that was around us never had a chance of being punctured it. Just we had a lot of this. I love you I just don't like right now. Those I tell the moments of great dislike moments of my mom and dad were divorced twice married three times. The two divorces. If it would've been opposite Mary twice divorced three times while the love would not have won. But they battled it out and love one that senior talking about which was bloody and ended up with making love on the floor. They'll have one again. That was just never never in question it was scary scary moment and I did remove myself from it. And it was also a moment that look my parents did never go. Objectively later on, Hey, we want to talk to you about that night now. I mean we were already onto the next mom they had made up. We had made up life's a Rodeo that that's how they communicated I. Don't choose communicate like that. But I didn't also judge it I. didn't I didn't. I really didn't judge it was wild. It was passionate. It was scary. But it was the way they loved each other. But you can see why some people are going to read this. Probably most people read this and say, wait a minute that's abuse. That's what I'm looking at in the way your father. Trieste sometimes is abused. Did you not see it that way? Is it really fair for someone else to say that if the person? Who is actually saying in very conscious of what happened says. No, it wasn't. Great question I don't I. My gut is that it's not really fair I'm not in denial of my mom and dad or not in denial of it my mom was never into knowledge. She's the first one to date at eighty eight years old in the other room to go. Oh Yeah. I needed that I. I push those I'm the one that started those fights I needed that communicate. So I can't ge I'm not going to judge her I. Don't choose to need that I don't need that much resistance in a relationship to feel passionate about it. So I don't know that it's really fair for someone. To tell someone else. Oh you're you're you're you've been victimized in in newer abuse, the principles no, no I wasn't. I didn't how I took it. You can't take that. You can't steal someone's understanding true understanding not in denial true understanding of the situation every time I got in trouble if someone goes oh I, don't agree with that. That's fine. I don't raise my children the same way my parents raised me I, don't have the same forms of discipline as they did. But I'm not dare I don't dare judge how my parents did it because every single time I got in trouble or got the belt or whatever I earned it. I knew what I did wrong. It was clear. The values that my parents were stealing in me. I got in trouble for not engine to my name for saying I can't instead of I'm having trouble for saying I hate. And for Lion. Now, what did I learn from that answer to your name love don't hate say you're having trouble instead of saying you can't do something. And don't lie. Pretty Damn for great values I learned out of that and I was never injured from any of those things now in our family's ever injured. From those from those times district. So that's that's that's another reason why they're loves choice to me has your perspective on that changed over the years. I mean you say it certainly not the way you handle your children or your relationship with your marriage DC it differently today than you did as a child. I think myself like. Most of society is. Trying to turn a page new Volvo in our ways that we teach lessons. To our children evolve and what consequences are because there are concepts good bad for everything we do and children I believe need consequences. And I understand the value of even fear. There's a lot of things I didn't do as a kid that I shouldn't have done for fear of the consequences. And that was helpful. That was useful. We choose I choose in an our family to to to have much more dialogue than my parents, shoes or their parents choose remember this is a whole another generation that my parents came to an end. They were raised in a whole different way that would probably said the way their parents would probably thought that they were too light on their kids. US. So. It's a different. If different way we have more dialogue now, we couldn't have much we. Parents. My parents were a lot of a lot of parents at that time. Why because said Joe? We my my wife and I do a little more explaining. Okay. Let's debate this out. We we talk about it a little bit more and even today my mom, she's Y'all talk about it to. Choosing to do that we're trying to work out and. That's the way we're trying. We're choosing to do it like I think a lot of people are. So there's so much in here wouldn't have time to cover all unfortunately but skipping ahead to the acting career and where that comes from, we've painted a picture of this household that should come out of where does the actor Matthew mcconaughey come from win? Was He born? And I guess I mean. You know looking back I could say if I'm going to deconstruct this and he was born November nineteen sixty nine the day I was born. But I didn't know it now mind you we grew up when I look back. It's always a science when you look back going forward Mr and you look back, you can connect. Oh, you did have that any I look back Mungo we were always telling stories in our family, the dinner table full of storytelling everybody told the story and you better tell a damn good when or you'll get interrupted until takeover. So you want to get a word in edgewise you better have a good story and you better tell it. Well, it was It was it was a fierce competition that around the tape. So I grew up hearing great to Taylor. Then I became storyteller now literally to say Oh, did I win did I want to act it wasn't really until after I got my first job days confused. Literally. But even now when you read the book I, Look back at my. I wanted to act before that. I Couldn admit to myself out loud or tell my dad or my friends or anything I could say I wanted to go to film school be a storyteller but I wanna be an actor I couldn't even dream about it was not in the vernacular of my dreams it seems so far out there. So Avant Garde so other than so impractical. But I did want to and like many things in the book that I say I forgot like ten goals at the end of the book or I did notice that I wanted to be an actor. Well obviously I did. You know when I look back I go. You may not have consciously acknowledged that, but really you did and I found out a lot of that going back through these diaries of the last fifty years and you never could have imagined speaking of dazed and confused when you. Improv the line that you probably would have it yell at you on the street three or four times a day when you famously said, alright alright. Alright was three words I ever said on film. Yeah and it's true. You just came up with that on your own. Yeah, that there was not a word written for that entire seem. I was not even supposed to work that night and I was on set to do a hair and makeup and wardrobe test in the director. Invited me into scene to say, Hey, do you think your character waterson would be interested in you know the red headed intellectual on unlike yeah. Donna girls well, you know mercer playing the role of Cynthia, the red headed intellectual here the top notch drive in think maybe your car may pull up in China pick her up and like sure next thing I know I'm in the car and about shoot my scene. Of My career at that time thinking was probably a one off to date hobby that had summer of ninety two. And I started to go through my head. Who's my man whose Woodson? What does what order in about a supporter since about his car I'm in my nineteen seventy chevelle. There's one I said, Woodson's about getting high as it will slater's riding shotgun. He's always gotTa do be rolled up as it were since about rock and roll I said I got Ted new stranglehold in the eight track three and then I heard action. Looked up over there rhys busy Cynthia, the headed intellectual. I said to myself order since about picking up chicks, I got three out of four. Alright alright alright. That's incredible and you never could have known what that was going to become. How often do you hear that from people every day all the time gem here I get pictures, people have it tattooed. Very. Sensational places on their body. You Don t shirts, hats, it pre scenes being follows me and get all the time to get tired of it and my answer's absolutely not because of. The first three words I said ever on film and I didn't know if that was going to be a couple of day job in the summer ninety, ninety two, I would never do it again but twenty years later turned out to be a career. Yeah. So. It's a callback for me when hear it that's exactly how precisely how I got started. That's really cool. It's like a monument, the beginning of your career and so you know I think it's fair to say that there some other films in between but time to kill was the moment that you became forgive the finger, my movie star, you know sure So what was that like for you? Personally because you do right about it in the book where you go from literally one day nobody recognized on the street to the next day you're walking around I think it's Santa Monica and everyone in the St Moshe yeah well over the weekend. That a time to kill came at opening weekend, my life changed over those two days. It opened on a Friday night by Monday morning. The world is a different place. The world was a mirror people come up. Oh I'm sorry about Miss Hud. Wait a minute. What's your name? Had? You know how to dog had no name was miss and had you know she had cancer? You just skipped four things in leaves right into the Low. It was a bit shocking. Everyone had a biography of which happens to any person who gets famous. Somebody has an innate. Perception, somehow of that person before they come up and they lean right into the story, they come right into the cliff notes you know without the introduction. I noticed I was not meeting strangers anymore I noticed that for me personally, my soul. Needed some missed its anonymity. here all of a sudden last Friday before time to kill cames out came out there were one hundred scripts done but I couldn't do any of them and now two days later Monday. Their offer me all hundred of those scripts and I'm going what two days ago I would have done any of those. Now you're telling me I, can do all of those I need some discernment I need to go figure out what what what matters here matters to me so. I put on backpack and got outta Dodge and went to places where people did not know my name where I was stuck with no one. But me and my internal dialogue to try and get my soul and feet on the ground and understand my head and my heart communicating clearly again to say what is it? I want what I want WanNa do what is it I don't want I write about this a lot in the book. You know it's very hard to know what we want and who we are. And that's okay. By process of elimination getting rid of the things you don't want and who you are not you will give you a better chance to end up being who you are and getting what you want. So that was the beginning of that process after I became famous and and then went on from there. That's every day since then for you is that feel like a lifetime ago when people did not know you on the street. All, I kind of. kind of I'm kind of at ease with it. Now, I still I'm able to now move. And much more quick now to meet someone in already understand is out they've already got a bye on you but I know how to get down. Underneath that with them. So we can have a real conversation. They can be completely honest with me as the guy, they just met Matthew, not the actor but the man math McConnell. So I've learned the tools for how to get under that in a graceful way hopefully, and sometimes it takes longer with certain people sometimes, it can take you know I don't have the effort. The where I write about in the book, we less impressed more involved sometimes, people will be impressed with my fame or something I'm not. They're not involved in the conversation with right there holding reverence for my place in society a someone famous that they're not really being themselves for behaviors. I've learned tools to get them to go. Okay. got that now. Hey, come here. And ask in certain question about the day. Do you have children or something like that and all of a sudden then baselines and I can have an involve conversation ONS conversational somebody but I've learned how to do that over the years. Hey guys thanks for listening to the Sunday. 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When really boy it was one movie after another that were hits and everybody knew you and your co stars also big stars as well. Did you like that run up until a point because in the book you say, I knew it sort of had to end somewhere. I did I thoroughly. Enjoyed it. When I gave myself licensed to enjoy it. I went ahead and said, okay, let's. Let's see how much freedom you can give yourself in go. Let's just let's the lean into. Your Life that that that you've that you've got McConnell Haney the access influence and fame let's lean into just let's let's. Let's go those play that character. For a while and I did and I quite enjoyed it but I always knew even going into it that it was going to be a stop. Not Stay I mean I knew I didn't know how long I was like no, don't go ahead. Don't don't don't. You know pull out of this too early leaning to enjoy it and you'll know when it's time to get out and that time did come where I needed more resistance I needed more I was I was I'd had enough Saturdays row. In my life and onscreen and I needed some Monday morning accountability responsibility in I needed some ascension and. Building needs resistance to create a new structure in my life, and then I think around two, thousand eight or so you sort of put on the brakes on things for almost two years and. Twenty months you say, all right. I'm going to recalibrate. What were you doing in those twenty months? Had you know which direction to head after that? Well. I knew I wanted to go rolls I wanted to do but those rules are not coming my way. So they were not an option so because I couldn't do what I wanted to do I stop doing what I was doing. South Romantic, Comedy Stop the action. Adventures. moved out of the Chateau, etc.. I'd met my now wife Camilla that time was falling love with her and we had. Created our first child. So. Those were to really great anchors to have for me in my life when I chose to take a sabbatical working. I knew I would battle bouts of insignificance which I did a new battle bouts of. Doubt, what you're doing. You're not. You're not working right now and you just got offered. A million bucks to do the that Rahm common you love doing those in their easy. Why would you? Get work you go to work. And I said no, not not not not hanging in there hanging there I also we had. With a family. Crisis. that I had to tend to. Outside of my immediate family that added Tim to which gave me real purpose and that's the hard part about being in limbo anywhere. It's hard Barbados Limbo. We're all in right now with Kobe what's arcus I don't have any identity without purpose what do I do So I didn't really feel like I had purpose, but I did in any time I didn't feel like ad I, looked at my child looked at my wife and I looked at my family that I was tending to. So I did find purpose in those things. But I did I entertained Maybe. You they never called back. Maybe Hollywood never call span maybe this is it maybe I'm GonNa go be a high school football coach. Maybe I'm going to be a teacher maybe it'll be an orchestra conductor I duNno, I entertain those things. But. After twenty months of nothing. No Rom coms no. Seeing me shirtless on the beach. Where's Makaay. He's forgotten. Or guess what? Now, he just became. A new good idea. For a role like Lincoln lawyer killer Joe Paper Boy Magic mine mud, true detective dowse. So. I-. unbranded in those two years. I was gone. I was I was anonymous where is? We don't see him every day like we were seeing him every day we don't seem in the theater like we were seeing. These kinda gone persona non grata, and that's when I became a new good idea for the types of roles that I was really wanting and then just ferociously grabbed a hold up and ran with like say, even for you as successful as you are, there must have been some trepidation about that because Hollywood is so much about relevance and being hot. August. So all of a sudden if you're gone for twenty months ago, maybe maybe he's out of the game, maybe he's checked out, but it turned out to be a great calculation. It worked out and I had a hunch always made the commitment I was I was really not gonna come back and tell the story about even getting now for two and a half million dollar off. Do that really. No never going to I mean look like I said I reread it because she what that amount of money and I write in the book it was a better script even though the same words written much lower offer, it wasn't better script. Number, fourteen, five coming. Out here. That your genitals. Funny now, everybody's got a number. And it wasn't medical but I said no, and actually that I think indirectly sin a signal. In some ways to Hollywood, Connie's not bluffing. At All And then again, I'm a sort of forgotten for the fourteen months at their nothing came in. But I, you know I've saved my money well. I knew I was checking in you know, and if nothing no other work came in I would have found another job to pay the rent. Yeah but I stuck to it I. Knew my gut. There was something that down the line was going to come back to feed my soul if I stuck with this sabbatical by stuck with this penance. self-imposed pendants that I put myself. And then within the space of a year two, thousand, thirteen, fourteen. True Detective and Dallas Buyers Club turn out arguably to be the two best roles in your career per she won the Oscar for Dallas. Buyers, Club. That had been credibly gratifying after twenty months of not being sure how this was gonNA turn out exactly have turn out that well. Yeah it was I mean it was. Affirmation that me as an artist as an actor, what I was putting out there, what I was intending to do was actually translating. My Art was translating it. What was the most deeply personal? The more personal I got with the roles which I was at that time in two pictures like that detective in Dallas. Buyers and others the more personal I got the more. The world related to what I was giving out. Thing I've learned in the writing of this book. The more personal got in the book because I spoke about earlier the more relatable it became to more people. It was the fact that Mara was translating and the fact that my peers who have great respect for said, we deem your work in this film, the most excellent of the year. That's wonderful and it let me know that was communicating the right way. Then my art communicate that myself. was. Communicating in on a very large scale and on a scale that people were going like that's fine craftsmanship as well. And also I have to imagine for someone like you. So famous who gets people get swallowed up by celebrity culture and you do your shirt off and Paparazzi shots and US Weekly's after you and you're doing the romantic comedies few said, no wait a minute. Let's not forget I'm an actor and I'm about to show you that was sort of A. Contrast from some of that celebrity stuff wasn't really you but that was projected on you will but does other things for me too and I always said that Rahm calms I loved him though I just mean being else weekly. You didn't ask for all that stuff all the celebrity but I understood that comes I'm aware enough to think comes with the world. But. But as far as like. People try to go. You Know Oh this is now that was then that wasn't really you is a shirtless Guy Rom com. Now you're showing your true self. That's a bunch of BS that was me to instill is and those Rom coms I was doing we're paying the rent for the house is that I was living on the beach shirtless on yes. Thank you. Never. So old oh well, that was all slough in that I never had that question with myself of like, Oh, I'm not. I don't have the goods I didn't have that question. I did though understand that Oh, minute a position where. These romantic comedies they're doing very well, and they're entertaining and I respect that entertainment but they're they're done so well in solidified my perception me so much as a rom come lead in the shirtless GonNa be that I'm not getting anything else. Okay I get this game now what I need to do here. Like I said, I, can't do what I WANNA do. So I'm GonNa stop doing what I've been doing. And I'm going to double down on this bet and hopefully it works and it did. The term reconnaissance love it or hate it. McConnell. Love it. Love it musical comes off the lips easy. It was a know that that that period that run on needed to sort of a slogan, an album cover it needed something that was fun to say in Kinda capsulize it in something that felt like a verb. I've taken too much of your time, but I wanted just want to ask you in closing you write a lot about the the idea of legacy and eulogy. And what are people are going to say about you? And I think all of us reach a certain age your mindset shifts to that. Especially I think when you have kids kids to and you go, what are they gonna say about me or what's my legacy to them? So what do you think as you put all this and it's all in their into a book? What do you hope anyway that your legacy will be what do you hope people say about you living? Is, the best father it could be. He was at home in the world. And worked daily to be at home with himself wherever he was in it. That's well said, Matthew, thanks for the time. I really appreciate it man. I did to appreciate it my big thanks to Matthew for a great conversation. I think they're all great conversations with Matthew mcconaughey and just for being. So open and honest and telling all these stories, some of them probably not easy to put out in public but he's put him down in this book called Green. Lights, and it is in stores right now my thanks as always. To all of you for tuning in again this week, if you want to hear more of my full length conversations with guests like Matthew, mcconaughey every week be sure you click subscribe so you never miss an episode and of course, don't forget to tune in to Sunday today every weekend on NBC I'm Willie Geist. 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