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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - May 22nd 2020

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - May 22nd 2020

"Welcome to the weekend stakes preview on the horse racing radio network presented by naira vets and Buber Morris now moving up on the outside from fourth to third the second by a head. And now alongside the leader Gouverneur Morris enforceable and Max field both moving behind that out the quarter pole gouverneur Morris has taken the lead from American Butterfly. Here's Max field. Moving up on the outside to challenge Gouverneur Morris off the far turn and Max `field strides forward and takes the lead by a length and a half to likes the final Furlong Gouverneur Morris second enforceable third. The rest are far back. Max Field off. Breathtaking Rod at the top of the stretch kicks clear by six. Max Field to win the Kleber breeders featuring for Jose Ortiz. Now here's Anthony. Stabile and Bobby Newman. Good evening everyone. Welcome to the weekend stakes preview presented by narrow here on the horse racing radio network on the big. Am IT NEEDS TO BE L? In New York Bobby Newman is down in south Florida. Our producer Leila Pena is in our Lexington Kentucky Studios Seven stakes. Coming your way we get the road to the Kentucky Derby back started in the Matt. Win The grade three derby points on the line Churchill downs and all stakes leaked. Pick five over those five a couple of the great race place as well. Bobby Newman a fantastic sleep. I am really looking forward to that late. Pick five and the return. You hear that dulcet tones of our own. Kurt Becker on the call the majority from last year the return in the Matt Win of Max `field it's going to be a great card of Racing Churchill downs tomorrow and it begs. The question is at the road to the Kentucky Derby or now is it the road to the Belmont stakes which is going to be run. Eleven weeks prior to the Kentucky Derby this year on Saturday June twentieth as one of Eddie. Murphy's characters in coming to America in the barbershop scene said Well yes Beaumont. Stakes will be Saturday June twentieth. We'll talk about that in a minute. Everything getting back started as you see retracts opening left and right north and South East and west all points in between Hogan used to say Yea and tomorrow all the action the bulk of the action will be at Churchill. Downs all is down there. We'll see how `field dozen his return is five stakes wonderful card. You can watch it all on America's Day at the races. It's the only place in fact you can watch churchill downs nationally during their spring summer. Meet catch all the action. America's Day at the races kicks off right around one o'clock tomorrow spiteful. Addition of talking horses coming your way as well on Fox. Sports to starting at twelve thirty. I believe Believer Anti Sterling and Jonathan Kinchen on that broadcast so you can catch tomorrow. The coverage starts twelve thirty over on Fox sports too and then all weekend long they bounce back and Forth Fox sports one sports to there's local affiliates as well And the base the place to play all the action of course is over at naira head on over the naira bets him in that to sign up for a narrow bets account last night and he'll be using the Promo Code. Hr and twenty and with Nyerere does deposit match up to two hundred bucks a year. Deposit two hundred bucks once you bet. Four hundred bucks is a two hundred dollar. Wagering credit in your account Head over to an IRA bets dot com for more details. I know there's a lot of lot going on over there. You just head over to the promotional counter I noticed some free piece for these races Of course our friend over a prisoner giving free. Pp's for all of the Churchill. Downs races. 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We'll get into those stakes in just a little bit But Bobby you mentioned it is at the road to the Derby is at the road to the Belmont stakes. For the first time the Belmont stakes will be first will run the Belmont stakes on Saturday. June twenty four weeks from today one would say a per- perfect placement of the Matt Win. When you consider for the first time in a very long time the Belmont stakes will not be run. At the test of the champion distance of a mile and a half of the we wanted a mile and an eighth shoot up to sixteen. Starters can be in gate for the Belmont stakes. I'M A BIG BELIEVER. That will get the sixteen. We may even get an overflow. When you consider that it's a mile and an eighth which is a little more palpable to some trainers this time of year and having not had the preakness and the Kentucky Derby to get these horses ready for the mile and a half so the mile and a half and then of course it's the first leg of the triple crown. It's stolen American classic. And there's a million bucks on the line. There's a lot of factors at play. The also the fact it other than the Matt Win. There's only one other three-year-old big race between now and Belmont stakes time. And that's the Santa Anita Derby and that's only two weeks prior to the Belmont so it really kinda hamstrings. The horses are the connections that were thinking about running in the Santa Anita Derby because that would have to come back two weeks later ship cross country and run against likely fifteen other rivals in the first leg of this year's triple crown so I'm interested to see who from the West Coast. Maybe skips the Santa Anita Derby and go straight to the Belmont stakes. I certainly would think that would see. At least a few from tomorrow's Matt Win in the Belmont stakes in four weeks then The ones that were not going to see in the Matt Win Horses we already know pointing for the Belmont. Tis The law Nidal Charlatan solely balante just to name four of the real big ones. Tis The laws probably pointing toward the Belmont before we ever knew when the Belmont was. Barkley tagged mentioned that you know they were hoping to take the New York path to the first Saturday in September and Kentucky. Derby Day will now the they at least have part of path with the Belmont stakes on June the twentieth and then after the Belmont stakes the question is what happens between the Belmont and the Derby because there are eleven weeks now between the Belmont stakes and the Kentucky Derby so you know you would think that the winner of the Belmont as well as the horses that run behind him or her will run again at least once between the Belmont and the Kentucky Derby could it be at Saratoga when they come out with their schedule and either the Jim Dandy or the travers whatever they decide to put those racists. Maybe they'll just stay in New Jersey and go to the haskell which is scheduled for July eighteenth so four weeks after the Belmont but still seven weeks before the Derby It's very interesting this year. What we've got as far as looking at the triple crown schedule and of course after the triple crown getting to the Breeders Cup in early November keeneland. Tis the Law New York. Brad Barkley Tag. Sakho togas stables. This story sound so so familiar and if it does it was seventeen years ago that those connections teamed up to win the Kentucky Derby and the preakness with the gutsy yelling funny side. One of my favorite horses of all time he could not win the stakes third to empire maker and ten most wanted to see a slop on June seventh. Two Thousand and three. He could not be the first triple. Crown winner in twenty five years. Tis The law went to the Florida Derby and asserted himself in the Florida. Derby certainly made himself one of the top contenders. Bobby mentioned three or four of them. Here here is his law taking that Florida Derby the rest not of consequence with five sixteenths. Doron on the outside. Tis The law bids up boldly now the challenge at t Indian for the top Chevron. A huge number cuts the corner and tries to fight on Gouverneur Morris as loosen charging on the far outside less than a quarter mile to go many Franko sets down his. He's moving away. Chivalry is out running at you. Indian for second GOUVERNEUR. Morris is now four if less than a sixteenth to go in the Florida Derby and it's time to respect law to the law. Is Your Florida Derby winner? He won by three over chivalry. Second Take Indian third then Gouverneur Morris and independence hall to complete the high five in one fifty flat. Pd L. O. Is On the call of that Florida. Derby was all kids the law. He's been the mile in eighth. He has a win at Belmont Park. He took the most prestigious two year old race with all due respect to the Breeders Cup. The we charity the American Farrell. He took the champagne at Belmont Park in just a second start of his career so he has plenty of experience there. It's home pretty much for the tag stable throughout the year. Belmont Park and his the log on to try and defend the home turf and get the job done something his well his stablemate his buddy funny side could not do seventeen years ago. Bobby Newman and that's when the Belmont stakes and I think the most intriguing thing about Tis. The laws that Barkley tag is said that this is a horse who likes time between his races. So th this schedule works out almost perfectly for Tis law because he'll run in the Belmont stakes on June the twentieth. And whether he wins or not he will most likely run about a month later. Either in the Haskell or whatever they have at Saratoga whether it's the Dandy of their travers and they will not mind taking seven weeks off between either of those kind of races and the Kentucky Derby in early September as other horses may be one a little bit more racing to stay fit. Tis The law. It seems like this horse who wants that month and a half between racists to really fire his best shot yes he doesn't you know. Tis The law the local favourite here of course in New York New York Bred Barkley Sack Toga. A fantastic story. Of course there could be two courses. One Newman standing in his law and the entire teams way. And it's the silver-haired Fox Bob Baffert the hall of Famer. He's of course the trainer of the last two triple crown winners American farrow and justify no stranger to success and failure in the Belmont stakes. He's one a few. He's lost a few. He's coming to guns. Blazing couple of undefeated ones. A lot of people were really more wowed by the dollar over Charlatan. They each one of division of the Arkansas Derby. Here's an adult under Joel. Rosario and Dole has put his head in front wells by. You is going to have to battle back button. Doll has taken over a clear lead. He's now two lengths in front at the top of the stretch King Guillermo up outside of wells by you three and a half to Farmington road and finish the and code runner madal still has to get a final furlong. He is a length and a half in front of King. Guillermo finicky fierce runs a big one in third and adult is two lengths in front king gear and finished the fares. It is doll undefeated and the Arkansas Derby winner Dalwin by two and a half king gear. Second Finnick affairs third and Farmington road finish for it. That wasn't a doll. He ran his record to a perfect four for four answered the mile and an eighth test with no problem in his division of the Arkansas Derby. Bobby will talk about him in a minute charlatan. Making just a third of his career was in the first division of the Arkansas Derby. And here's VIC staffer with that call Charlotte and now a quarter mile from Arkansas. Derby glory leads by four lengths basin continues to run in. Second Governor Morris's third then to the outside and Ano- door final furlong left handed whips for Charlotte and he leads. It's a three length advantage over basin who is running his heart out but he is just not good enough and Charlotte ten is going to run them off their feet and win the Arkansas Derby. We will see you. In September. Young Man Charlatan wins by six basin. Second and finishing Governor Morris. They had two big big chances for hall of Famer Bob Baffert Nidal Charlatan. A perfect seven seven combined. Dave both in the mile and an eighth. Everybody's been mile in those three. We just talked about. Bobby Newman. They gotta cut back to the one. Turn now which could play a key role in this year's on steaks it certainly. Could you also going to have a lot of writers who were maybe not used to those big sweeping turns Belmont and the one turn mile and an eighth type races that are going to be converging on Belmont Park on Saturday June twentieth? So there's a lot of play. I think post position just like it does every year for the Kentucky. Derby will mean a lot this year for the Belmont stakes one turn mile and an eighth. It's another thing where I I wouldn't think you'd want to be caught down inside unless you're you know you're a horse like Charlatan who could probably out sprint the field early on. It's really going to be a lot of funny. Throwing horse like solely allante. Who ran a very good second in the Tampa Bay Derby when we last saw him trying to close from way out of it into a pace? That really didn't favor his kinda running style. I think he's going to have something to say. And I would not be surprised. If a couple of horses in tomorrow's Matt Winn stakes jump up with big efforts and they look like they have something to say in the Belmont on June twentieth. It's going be a lot of fun opening day at Belmont Park Wednesday June third. Just about twelve days away. Can't wait for. That should be a good time before we go to break get into the stakes action. Let's see another guy who's looking forward to Belmont opening up. And that's Lewis is. He is the subject of tonight's blood horse news update and look at the top headlines from blood. Oors DOT COM size draft Kentucky Derby appeal suspended fifteen days. The Kentucky Horse Racing Commission has suspended. Jackie Lewis is for fifteen days for as Roger. Last year is Great. One Kentucky Derby by Woodford reserve after the Ryder withdrew his appeal of that suspension. The regulator issued its decision May Twentieth Suspending Sayas from May Twentieth June third. Four his right aboard maximum security in last year's derby size who the country with one hundred and thirty wins. The season currently is writing and Gulfstream Park. He began this mentioned. His scheduled may twentieth. Maximum-security reached a wire. I in the twenty thousand nine Derby but was disqualified for interference. When he came out several paths near the Five Sixteen Paul. In the mile a quarter classic me fourth Churchill downs stewards ruled at maximum. The maximum security veered out. He directly interfered with war of will and chain reaction appearance with long range toddy and Bodey Express. He was placed seventeenth behind long-range taty country house. Who reached a wire? Second was place. I that wraps up addition of blowers news update. Bowlers daily has the largest subscriber base of Emmy Thurber Industry Latronic daily newsletter. Keep up to date on what's going on in our industry all the president of the changes and especially now with racing picking up throughout the country. Download the free blowers daily APP. Wherever email sent to you today get started right now. Go TO DOT COM backslash daily. So Lewis is when an eye on beautiful Belmont Park's opening June third withdraws his appeal takes his days and he'll be ready to roll when big. Sandy opens her doors in twelve days. Bobby and I think that's a good move by Lewis Sayas and his agent care McLaughlin. Mine as well take those days off. Now get your mind right. Get up to New York and boy. His good is just about anyone in the country right now if not better than anyone in the country and I think he's going to continue his winning ways when he gets to that tougher circuit up at Belmont Park. All right let's take our first break when we come back. We'll give into the stakes Jackson. There's an all stakes pick five. Which means is all stakes at Churchill? 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This is the weekend stakes preview presented by Nyerere bets that quarter of a mile to the finish. It is diamond King America on the outside diamond. King narrowly American anthem has all out and second then back side of the moon. Wicked trick is out in the middle of the track as they pass the ball. Diamond King in front American anthem runs in second. It's diamond king with the lead American anthem giving Jason Back Side of the Moon Diamond King from off the layup to win must I made. American anthem was second then back side of the moon and third the one the only the voice of the New York Racing Association John Embryo on the call of the Stymie Diamond King. I'll tell you there's five stakes at Churchill downs tomorrow afternoon. They're all tough. I don't know if there's a tough one the blame. We'll get to that in just a little bit. Welcome back to who we can stakes preview presented by Nyerere bets here on H. R. and I'm looking forward to seeing. Everybody opens June third. I gotta be honest. I'M GONNA play favorites here. I can't wait to see Johnny one of the most selfless nicest helpful. I mean somebody who just wants. What's best for you before anybody else? He's just an amazing person a great race caller and a mentor. And I cannot wait to see John when we opened the doors back up on June. Third haven't able to see him since this whole thing went down and it'll be great to see him. I can tell you that. He's a great guy. He's a fun guy to listen to as well I mean but even before he got the full time job at Nyra as the announcer when he was he's been backing up for seemingly thirty years right now and He's always been pleasure to listen to. It didn't matter whether he it was his job or whether he was backing up. Tom Durkin or even in the Marshall Cassidy days. John Embryo has always been a pleasure. Listen to you know. Exactly what is going on in the race he's got great inflection and he's just he obviously cares about what he's doing he's just a pleasure to listen to work in You know once upon a time we got to see him on TV and it was a pleasure to watch him work as well. Yeah he's the best these. The absolute people say that a lot about other people. He's the he's salt of. The earth is the absolute best. Can't wait to see Ghanaian here. Those calls starting June third. We'll hear travis stone tomorrow at Churchill downs and the action kicks off and race number seven. The Sean One hundred thousand dollars it's a mile and a sixteenth for the phillies and mayors. There's a field of eight now action derosier on the burden at DOT com. Show last night and you can watch all of these. Churchill rates America's Day at the races all weekend long informing that there was some rumblings that the forty five morning line favorite Dunbar. Road may come out of here. You joked on red brand radio yesterday on her biggest fan I loved on borrowed And I gotta be honest with you Dunbar. Road coming out tomorrow would really hurt me. Because she's my lean if Dunbar road runs tomorrow. She's my single in this salty. Pick five secrets. I think there are other ways to go in every other one of these races. I think all of the other favorites vulnerable. She's Hickory to me. She's my pick if she runs if she doesn't think he got gotTA use two or three of these phillies see. I thought it was. I thought it was a to philly racer to Philly and Mayor Race between Dunbar road and number eight. She's a Julie who's the second choice on the morning line thing. That intrigues me about. She's a Julia even though when she faced on borrowed in the Spinster and was soundly defeated by her. I think she's a Julie may end up being the lone speed in the race tomorrow if she can clear number three. Aw Emma who has shown speed at times? I think she's a Julie will be the one in front when they make the swing for home. It's only a mile and a sixteenth. She hasn't run since October. But dunbar road her biggest Biggest hurdle hasn't run since last year. Either she's a Julie has been working a lot. She has eleven works off the layoff Mostly down in New Orleans and a few over a keeneland like I said. I think she's going to be the one in front Dunbar. Roads going to have to pass now dump by road. There's no doubt about it in my mind that if they're all fitting running their best race she's the one to beat but just because of this I picked. She's Juliane top. I would use both of them if I'm playing the pick five. Yeah if Dumbo road stays in. She's my single. If she doesn't I'm going to be using she's Julie I'm going to be using vaulted takes the blinkers off at show all Rosario second time for Brad Cox off in November layoff. She ran into day at Oakland. We were covering the show the race. On Redmond Radio Speed was king at Oaklawn that day on closing weekend. Vault got blamed got in front and kept on going It was a speedy Speed really held. I like her a little bit. Those would be the two. I would use Maybe on a ticket I would. I would use them but done by roads to be my single if she runs if not. It's Volvo and she's a jewelry for me Ray. Seven goes as the Sean Race Number Eight. The return of Breeders Cup Juvenile Filly turf winner. Sharing is in this tappan named of course after the Great Race Mare of the mid twenty teens flatten turns Churchill. Downs feel the fifteen entered one eighty evil war. We'll see if the todd pletcher runner gets in. Tell you what you gotTa Breeders Cup winner coming back making her first start of the year. So you looking at about six and a half months. Since we've last seen sharing she's found some place to launch her sophomore campaign. I agree and I'm not even sure she'll be favored. Tomorrow number. Fourteen alms. I think is the best filly in the race. She's undefeated four for four but boy she is number fourteen and that is not a long run to the turn going one mile on turf at. Churchill at so take a shot against her. I'm going to take a little shot against sharing our use them both. If I'm playing pick fours and fives think a long shot number. Six in good spirits has a chance to go wire-to-wire but I another long-shot number five hendy woods for mark. Cassie and Declan Carol. She is to for two in her brief career. Both at a mile down at the fairgrounds. She comes from a little bit off the pace. I think there's enough speed in here to set it up for looks like she's going to. She can continue to improve and if she improves even a little bit. I think she can give the big names of sharing an alms. All they can handle from a much more favourable. Post position you know. It's it's funny. I you look at this. Raising see the accomplished phillies right alms. A three time stakes winner. She's undefeated of course. We have the Breeders Cup winner in sharing outburst three in a perfect two for two in North America for nearly she wanted to grade. Three Florida oaks last time out walking. Marrakesh just got beat to outbursts. She just got beat to abscond. Who's also in here? They ran one two in the grade. One the town up at Woodbine last year is two year old. But the truth of the matter is you can make a gigs. I was able to make a case in here for everyone. Except it's easier for me to say except I thought the one was tough to make the eight the eleven and thirteen if any of the other eleven including a eve of war won this race. Got IN I. It would not surprise me at all. I'M GONNA use all of there's a ticket where I'M GONNA use all of those so I have a little bit of expensive ticket. There's a horse in the race though. I think you need to use. If you're using longshots your horse. Definitely I worry about her getting cooked on a speed tool the other words. I think you have to use the number ten. Pass the plate for Paul McGee and of course your selection The horse you're going to use a little bit the five I'm sorry you you mentioned the five Hendy Woods. I think us in good spirits to Hendy Woods. Markazi will be more appropriate than him. Winning the tap in the newest hall of Famer Markazi Would Be. It would be very appropriate to win. One after is Great Race Mare named after various but pass the plate started a career and a sprint against a nice looking shook filial a gay and crafty woods. Then one two in a row WANNA keelan want to Churchill downs. Those are the only two times Julian Peruse Readiness Philly. His daughter are temple city. Her next three races one was on the dirt. I guess when you're that talented on the turf you almost half the try to dirt. She didn't run poorly. She didn't want as well she'd rolling turf next to start quite. Frankly the start in the in the in the lottery memorial. I think Corey lowery pulled the trigger a little too soon in the Bourbon at oaks. When she tried the all weather she came running late now. Leper Ruins phillies like. She's a little tough to ride. She's reunited with Peru and Julian Peru is famous for being able to get along with these sources of the first one that comes to mind and Sadler's joy always time that move which adler joy perfectly Maybe another sadler joy here past the plate. I'll tell you what twenty one morning line. I don't know if she'll be that price she's one. That'll be on all of my tickets. However I play the race in and to be honest with you. If she's hanging on the Board at eighteen or twenty one. I'm going to have to make a win better hard because I've always been a fan of her. There's some pace in here. Some of the other phillies didn't draw that well namely alms. I'M GONNA use a bunch. Sharon can obviously win. I'm GONNA take a little swing and trying to get past a plate home as at a huge price in recent the tappan race nine the blame flat mile out of the shoot another huge field here fourteen another race bobby. I think half the field can win this race. It's a very tough race. A very talented feel a lot of speed in this race. I'm having a hard time figuring out. Who's actually going to be favored in this spot? I'm leaning toward number three global campaign who I always think that Stan huffing is crew. Thought was going to be a really nice one. He debuted very impressively at Gulfstream last year. Only two times as horses lost the horses. Who finished in front of them. Were Code Honor Tax and Tacitus and if any of those three were in this race they'd probably be favored so global campaign making a second. Start off a layoff. I think we'll sit a good trip just in behind the speed going. This one turn Mile Iran very well last time out in a basically a stakes caliber allowance race at Gulfstream Park. But I'm not worried about him. Moving technically up in class other horses. That are scaring here. The seven silver dust is very accomplished. Eh Against Good Competition Owen. Dale making his first start of the year extraordinary. Jerry scratched out of a race yesterday to run tomorrow instead. American anthem at a price has shot. Mister money did not one well on the wet track at oaklawn against toms data last time out but his previous tries would all make him very very tough uneven number. Fourteen diamond king who Is One of the speed horses in here. If he doesn't get cooked and dual he could be as I think all of them would be used on my ticket but my top choices global campaign. Yeah you know if you put a gun to my head and said make a top pick it would be global campaign. There's another part of this the one and the only things you didn't mention that and they're all fantastic points the sources three for three around one turn and with his style where he likes to sit off the pace. Make the one run. These one turn mile races are right up his alley right. He's never been a mile in fact but he's won. Both of his starts at seven furlongs. He won the on eighth. Peter Pan at Belmont again. That's one turn. We'll see that in four weeks for the Belmont stakes. He happened to beat last year's Beaumont. When a Sir Winston in that race so you know. They tried him in the Jim. Dandy belong break to the allowance race at Gulfstream where he ran well he picks up Jose Ortiz. Yeah I mean he's the goods I like. I WANNA use a few of them in here. I have another horse at a huge price and I'm definitely using. It's the to Bourbon resolution. Another horse his one turn race is pretty good. No one. The Ben Ali around two turns but he won the race at Gulfstream in February of last year twenty nineteen off of the June layoff from the prior year and then he ran this year in the Sir Shackleton and quite frankly they just got away from him. It was his first start since last July. So it was I start eight months. He came running late. He's GonNa get to Churchill downs where he's at the board a couple of times he's like. I said one for one of the one turn mile. There's enough pace in here. I don't think he'll be that far off of it in fact I don't know if he'll be a too far away from global campaign he'll a huge number two so I'm GonNa try and get him home especially you know if if if Dunbar road doesn't scratch and she runs and she wins. It's going to get off to a talking start so you may want to try and get one or two of these bombs in there. I think he'd be the one in here. You mentioned silver dusty. Moving knowing del ever fast ran really well. Last time. Short structure the mile. He showed a lot more speed than ever had down at Oakland Park. First Time for Jackson who gave him a brilliant ride to get second in the preakness back aboard for the first time. I don't know if I want to let him beat thirty two one I owe nothing too long range taty because of a John Court claiming foul. I would have got nothing in the Kentucky Derby last year. So Yeah this is a wide open race. Mr Money's a wind machine was a the sheen for six months. Last year he's three for four Churchill. Lot of ways to go a wide open blame race number nine tomorrow at Churchill downs right. We're a little more than halfway home. We come back time to Talk Matt Wind Kentucky Derby Points on the line. We'll wrap the card and the coverage of Churchill downs with the war chant as well. You're listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets here on. Hr N that and watch the races worldwide from the palm of your hand with Nyra bets. Sign up for NYRA bets. 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They'll deposit match up to two hundred dollars of your initial deposit match dot com for more details Bobby Newman Tulloch folks about the point system was originally was not supposed to be that many points but Churchill downs and the Kentucky Derby decided to bump the Matt Win and there are some real derby points on the line tomorrow afternoon race ten while the win obviously was never supposed to be before the Kentucky Derby but now since it is they have put eighty five points on the line as far as the road to the Kentucky Derby the winner of the Madelyn will receive fifty. The runner-up gets twenty third place. Ten fourth place five in past years fifty points has been enough to guarantee a spot in the twenty horse field in the Kentucky Derby now there are a lot more quote unquote prep races. They're not really preparations they stand alone. These races But there are a lot more races leading up to the Kentucky Derby this year that are going to be worth points so including the. I'm sorry to interrupt you but including the Belmont stakes right and the Belmont stakes. You get one hundred and fifty points for winning and I believe you get sixty for being the runner up which in the winter obviously would get him but most years that guarantees that the runner up in the Belmont stakes would be would be guaranteed a spot in the Kentucky Derby But there are a lot more. I mean now the Santa Anita Derby is is hasn't been running. That's still going to be one hundred to the winner. The Los Alameda Sturdy which was never getting points is worth twenty two the winner the Haskell which is usually after the Derby one hundred to the winner the Pegasus twenty two the winner Indiana Derby twenty two the winter the bluegrass which they're negotiating in Kentucky now to have a keeneland meet in the first half of July just before Saratoga opens the BLUEGRASS will be worth one hundred two the winter and then of course the Ellis Park Derby and the shared belief fifty to the winner each. We don't know those dates yet. So it's a really a lot of excitement but what we do know about the Matt. Winn stakes is whether they planned it this way or not. It is perfectly timed per for the Belmont stakes. Four weeks after that win is the first leg of this year's triple crown the Belmont stakes and then he still have eleven more weeks to decide what you WANNA do. Tell the Kentucky Derby so this Matt Win maybe more than any other year is a very very important three year race. And you you could add. You'd have to assume at Saratoga. That's GonNa get points as well somewhere about a month before the Kentucky Derby lots of points available so this becomes that much more important especially for a horse like Max Shield. Who's just getting going now? And I think a lot of people would agree this race in all likelihood goes through. Maxwell he has to negotiate the layoff which is a lengthy one. He didn't run since October of last year. So you're looking at well over seven months for this son of street sense. Of course the Kentucky Derby back in two thousand and seven Brennan Wall strains for Godolphin will hear from Godolphin president of US racing operations Jimmy Bell tomorrow morning on a loaded equine form presented by foreign paint doc on trainer Grand Motion Talks About. Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf when Sharing Return Ruidoso downs. Gm Jeff true previews their upcoming meet and offering Terry Finley. The founder of West Point orbits racing and reflects on Memorial Day. That's all tomorrow morning on the coin form presented foreign paint dot com You'd have to think MACs field would be the one that would wanna get going the most and if he shows up with that rate especially from last year in the British maturity He. He's GonNa be right there at the end of this Matt Win Tomorrow and it certainly looks like he's been working well for his return to the racist. China Brendon Walsh. Long Series Of works both down in Florida and in Kentucky and they've gotten pretty fast since his arrival in Kentucky. Those works over Keelan interesting. I think this race comes down to three horses and all three of them only have two lifetime starts in their careers. Number One. Mystic Guide number two pneumatic and the favorite number. Ten Max field. My top choices actually. Going to be number two pneumatic. Who won I? What I think is the most impressive maiden race of the meet at Oaklawn Park back on February fifteenth. The runner up third place. Finisher I think the fourth place finisher all came back and won impressively in the starts and pneumatic came back on April eleventh with a very impressive win going around two turns and facing winners for the first time I think he's just bred to keep getting better and better as the distances stretch out being by on. Komo out of a tap at mayor and I think pneumatic can cause I wouldn't say the upset but the anytime you're going to beat a favorite light Max `field it's A. It's a little bit of an upset. So I think pneumatic is my top choice. I love the way number. One mystic guide ran last time out breaking his maiden at the fairgrounds. Obviously these are much deeper waters in the Matt Win. But he's got a great post position and that last race that maiden races about as good as any of these other horses have run speed figure wise and there's no reason he can improve his fifteen to one on the morning line and then Max field like you said. He was so impressive. Coming from far off the pace in the breeders futurity last year and just blowing the doors off that field if he runs that kind of race off the layoff. He's obviously the one to beat but there is that small question mark of whether or not he'll run that race tomorrow so I'm just using him as one of my three. I'm using numbers. One two and ten but number two pneumatic my top selection. You may be forced to live in the pick for the pick. Five to root for quarter. Who is here right? The other Chad Brown. The other. Bob The other. Godolphin in here Mr Guy who's GonNa be fifteen ten fifteen points higher than Max field will be on. The board. Yeah pneumatic is probably pneumatics. The question mark in here because of pneumatic keep I say the question what. He's the wildcard. Rather because if he keeps improving boy Max fields going to have to come with a big shot off of the layoff to keep up with this improving son of uncle mo who as good as he wasn't his maiden win he came back and look even better once they stretched out and he's finished the job both times very nice. Final quarter for miles. You know. It's very rare. You see a horse. Go One on nine and four for furs maiden win making up ground right not. He didn't even do it on the front end so you have to figure. At the end of that race he was he was coming home nicely and then stretch out and go the go that one turn that to turn short stretch mind. That's warm impressive to. He didn't have the entire length of the stretch in Oakland to win. Last time he didn't need it he was You know when when they got the eighth pole which is which was really the sixteenth. Paul he was well on his way. It taken flight at that point so this big stretcher Churchill. Yeah I think. The wildcard is pneumatic. He could very well be the goods. And I think you'd be remiss to leave off of of any of your tickets. You have the US Max feel. I don't know what you do with the other horses who we've seen a lot of at this point. I think we've seen we've seen attachment rate enough. I don't know how how much trouble he got into last time it says bumped. I. I don't know if the source really wants to go to turns the mile and a sixteenth. He may be better at the middle distances. What do you do with major fed who you know? He ran well in his division of the risen star behind modernist he was wide around there and then Louisiana Derby Day. It was tough to make up ground on that track and he did it. He didn't break. Well you know I just don't know if the Mile Sixteen is long enough for him. I know he broke his maiden going amount on the sixteenth. But I think maybe against a little bit better Class A horse. He might need a little bit more distant. He's the kind of horseshoe look at. I do anyway for the Belmont stakes for the Kentucky Derby where that Mile and an eighth at Belmont with the five furlong straight run to the first turn might be more than the two turns. Churchill especially from that draw but there are a lot of dangers in here You like three of them. I can make a case for five of them. I'm trying to find a long shot to give you in these numbers as well because a lot of this chalk looks tough but know. Churchill downs has been known to spring up senator to in its storied history necker island speaking of Churchill. Downs is over four in his career. When he doesn't want to Churchill downs at Churchill? Now he's two for two. We broke his maiden and then he won in the slop. He's another one. I don't know how far he wants to go. I didn't love the ride last time. I wanted them to be more forwardly placed from the rail. It didn't happen He gets Tyler Gaffney Leone back aboard gasoline wrote on one time we had no real chance in the swell. He's a son hard spun so you would think the mound sixteenth. We'll be right in his wheelhouse. He's going to be a big number. I think he'll get ignored. He's the kind of wish you WanNa get into your number. I think but I think new medical Max field is likely going to win this race but maybe you get necker island gimmicks to juice things up race number ten. The Great Three Matt Win Fifty Derby points to the winner race number. Eleven wraps the car. They'll pick four pick five all stakes at Churchill. The war chant flat mile on the turf for the three year olds another full field of fourteen. There's a and here as well. We don't have the star. Power of sharing in an alms in here. But like we do in the tap in. But I gotTa tell you about. This is another wide open one. You can make a case for seven or eight of these. And that's what scares me about. This race is then. I think it's so wide open either. Have to do a major spread and really pair it down in your other legs of the pick four. Pick five or you just got to take a shot or two in this race. And that's what I'm GONNA do. Even though I think more than half the field can win. I'M GONNA only use two horses in this race. Number One south bend whose twelve to one on the morning line and number nine smooth like straight south bend is going to be my top choice. And I'm kind of a sucker for this source. He hasn't won in quite a while not since October of last year and he's never won on turf but his turf starts have been pretty good and he's drawn well down along the inside reunited with Julian Peru. Who's been aboard for all three of his starts? I think he had much chance last time out in English Channel. When he was caught wide every step of the way he should be able at least save ground around the first. Turn tomorrow in the war chant. There is some speed in the field and one of the speed horses number nine smooth like straight. He was actually favored his last two starts out at Santa Anita and ran good races. Although not winning races picks up the services of John Velazquez for the first time and I think that may help him. A lot is shipping out to Churchill downs in first time actually outside of southern California so one in nine for me with south. Bend my chops choice. We're running out of time. I think any combination of one two four five six nine twelve thirteen to win this race. I had a tough time with this race when I do I Trust Joel. Rosario pixellated getting a rider change. Joel Rosario I think there's some space some some pacing here. I hope he settles. I hope he makes one run. I think he's like the Churchill downs course for a little bit of the longest stretch of some of these other places. I know fairgrounds. He just missed last time I also think that a quicker pace is going to help the sources 'cause I'M GONNA TRY PIXEL BUT AGAIN. I think of eight of them couldn't win it race. Number eleven goes as the war chant. One more break when we come back. We'll have a few minutes to talk about a couple of graded stakes race place. The Daytona and the trolley winning Ham. You're listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets here on the Horse Racing Radio Network that and watch the races worldwide from palm of your hand with Nyerere Bets. Sign UP FOR NARROW BETS. Today and take advantage of premier perks with the best live racing misery plays in hd exclusive promotions and earn points on every bet sign up for today with the Promo Code H rn twenty under the positive match up to two hundred dollars again. That's H. R. N. twenty with Nyerere. Bet You can bet any track anywhere at any time head over to an IRA best. Dot Com aims. The Spring and summer meet is live at Gulfstream. 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The highlight of the weekend comes on Monday but a pair of greed one three hundred thousand dollar turf stakes gamely for fillies and mares at a mile and one eighth and the shoemaker mile for three year olds and up also on Monday fillies and mares go five and a half on turf in the grade to Monrovia stakes we thank all of our fans for your patients and we hope to reopen to the public as soon as possible please visit Santa Anita dot com for updates racing is back at Churchill downs. Every Thursday through Sunday with a Special Memorial Day Card on Monday may twenty fifth. I post each day is one. Pm Eastern this Saturday catch five state phrases including the grade. Three Matt Win featuring undefeated great one winner and Kentucky Derby Hopeful Max Field. Plus the return Breeder's cup juvenile fillies winner. Sharing in the one hundred thousand dollars happens stakes. Although spectator free churchouse offers great wagering opportunities with big fields and horses coming from all over the country visit Churchill Bounds Dot Com. You'll guys they call me Jersey Joe but it's only job. Bravo me whatever you like. Just so happy that you're listening to horse racing radio network this weekend. Stakes preview presented by NIAGARA ABETS CHURCH BRAHM. United cut loose on the outside has chosen vessel is up to try and get by. Brown storm on the inside of their multiplier from the back of the field. Cleopatra Strike at Oscar Dominguez United Storms when he has company late in the form of Cleopatra. Strike will be to win the San Marcos. I'm Anne Frank Monroe Monty on the call of the San Marcos United Man. He gave bricks and mortar. All you could handle in the Breeders Cup turf last year. He'll be the favorite in Charles Winningham tomorrow at the Great Race Place. Welcome back to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by naira bats race number five before they run the Charles Wittingham Daytona grade. Three five and a half furlongs on the turf back in your old stomping grounds bobby late. Pick five kicks off in the Daytona. So there's two stakes in late. Pick five nine race car to the Great Race Place Tomorrow. Post time twelve thirty Pacific three thirty eastern time field of seven in the Daytona where land? I think it's a two horse race between the five citron and the six wild man Jack they both have similar speedy running styles. Just because of the odds I think number five citron will be my top choice. I also wild man. Jack is coming off two races out and Dubai usually like to give them a race back in the country before they fired their best shot so sister on my top choice but I would use. Both of them in the horizontal. Wagers likes to strong as well I I I really wonder who's the aggressor right. And if I had a bet my money I would think that victory. Spinosa is going to be the aggressive with soprano who has shown I mean. There's last two starts his versatility. He won the grade one big crosby when they were able to steal on the front end. You don't see a lot of forty five half's in grade one Santa Anita on the dirt on dirt and he was able to go get the wire that day when he was left alone on the front end and then last time out in the San Simeon at Santa Anita in March. So you saw big layoff. It didn't matter. He was able to sit just off of a little bit of a more contested face and get there just in the nicotine time. I think his form as well. You see that record sanity the turf. It's it's a little dirtied up by those downhill races. He's a little bit better in these five and a half long races. I like CISTERNA lot tomorrow. Race number five goes as the great three Daytona race. Eight to Charles winning hand the ball. The Eagle has this one named from a mile and a quarter on the turf. That'll start right on the turn. And then they'll make their way around to stretch a couple of times another field of seven and united we heard him loving and Paddle Rightful Hall of Famer Richard Mandella. He took the San Marcos back in February. So he's going to be dealing with just about three and a half close to four month. Layoff six to five on morning. Line what are we thinking about him? Well I think he's going to be a shorter price than that and I had a hard time finding anyone to beat them. The only thing against united is the fact. There's not a lot of speed in the race. And he comes from a little bit off of it but the speed of number three bold endeavor doesn't look like it's quite good enough to beat a horse like united and that's why pay Flavian Pratt to ride united. He's ridden this horse and slow paced races in the past. He'll just have to lay a little closer. The source fires a good shot almost every time he goes to the races six to five morning line. I think we're GONNA see three to five and I can't get past him. I hope I'm hoping there's a little pace in here. I'll give you my selection in just a minute because it's time now for the naira bets. Best Bet if it is the NAIRA BEDS. Best Bet bobby seven to choose from where the land for the naira bets best. Bet I'm gonNA take one of the toughest racist a handicap than ninth at Churchill downs and it is the blame and I think that the standoff trainee global campaign is going to get a good trip in behind the early speed. I Trust Stan. Huff and everything that he does with horses like this global campaign picking up the services of Jose Ortiz. Second start off a layoff and we'll look for him to capitalize on a nine to two morning line from just off the pace in the blame. Tomorrow we've talked about trust earlier in the show right. I say when I have a wide open race I trust and Joel Rosario. That's why I took picks late in the war chant. He's not an IRA best best. Bet It's the other Ortiz Brother router. Tease Junior who has stayed in Florida. I'm sure he'll be New York sooner rather than later takes to flight out. West for in Chad. We Trust Chad Brown rock emperor place. This is a horse. I've been a fan since day. One with a better attribute won the Belmont Derby he had no chance in his trip and those Saratoga Derby invitational. He had less of a chance last time in the moonies when the turf course was playing rock solid for speed on now he gets a mile and a quarter he gets the services of maybe the most accomplished jockeying. Orlando tease junior and hoping to get a little bit more in there appears to be on paper and maybe synthesis can help me with that rock emperor the number seven in race number eight. The Charles Wittingham rock camera mine. Naira Bets Best Bet. I don't think I've been more excited for a weekend of racing than I am for this weekend of racing. We look ahead Valmont. Opens in twelve days. The Belmont stakes will be run for the one hundred and fifty second time under a little bit of a different circumstance on June twentieth. Lots to look forward to have a great Memorial Day weekend everyone. Let's remember why we have Memorial Day? Bobby great job as always. We'll do it again next week. I appreciate a pal great weekend. All right everybody have eighth. Try and celebrate the holiday weekend as best you can start a summer. Hopefully lots of good things to come. Certainly on the racing horizon all right. That wraps it up for Bobby and on the big anthrax. Hope you have lucky night when all your photo finishes have a healthy and Safe Memorial Day Weekend Baltimore for the Equine Forum. You've been listening to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by Nyerere becks.

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Blinkers Off 440: Churchill Downs, Santa Anita Return and Rapid-Fire

Blinkers Off

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Blinkers Off 440: Churchill Downs, Santa Anita Return and Rapid-Fire

"Churchill do specifically really hard to predict that. But I think it's going to be huge and you gotta think them and Gulfstream are gonNA kinda compete with each other at the same time and then Santa is going to can to compete with the later half and then they're going to be unopposed them and Golden Gate so you're GonNa see big numbers Bit doesn't she rightly dudes name. Amran who by some race and they wanted to share with players picks. The goal was to cut wrists. They put the plan into motion person. Suitably the expert picks of Free Willy Racetrack. Better just to begin. Doesn't WanNa go to find a winner. As a matter of fact morning. Hit the exact There's only one site that keep coming back next. Horses all end up at the post mixture used the website. Battling the most church oaklawn Gulfstream Park's Toga tricks in between there's only one when it comes to your best plus. It's catching game that no one never forgets to stack com to all the needs to calm the holy leauge dude dot com for all the events do that com is good his waist dudes dot com the meads dues dot com. All you leads right into DOT COM DOT com. Guess Well Jeez ultimately this is blinkers off. What's up man? I like the hanging there before going on now. Much man I you I got on there. I'm driving me crazy already. Yeah I'm getting tired of this whole in person. Kind of stuff got new over the phone. Call you talk to and I wanted to. But no yeah it was a love fest last week and now it's like this guy leaves you got here at. Eight. Am and you haven't loved my. Hey all day and you only have been told what's going on man. I'm just learning a lot here talking to you before I mean here. It's been good yellow. Save that for another. Yeah Yeah but no I am educating you a little bit over here but no so racing is coming back. Well I mean if you want to get right into. This is the best week we've had maybe all year right. I mean they're going to have dedicated listening on. We'll talk about Churchill opening up but yeah shit man we're just looking at site and we've got actually have multiple tracks on site now. Yeah so we hit the lowest of the low last weekend to have four tracks running Friday Saturday Sunday and two of those were quarter horses not nothing against quarter horses but to have to thoroughbred racetracks. Running on a weekend is just You can't get any worse than and not only that there were just nothing good running Thank keep to golfing for doing the mandatory. Pick six that co that cost a little excitement but overall it was the worst weekend. I could ever remember a covering the sport or being a fan of when you're talking may talked about in the middle of. May you're right. You're expecting have something going on. Obviously we'd be talking about Chris Week Brightness Right when that'd be this weekend yeah this is so but yes so yeah. It's all things considered we are. I mean I feel like and I've said last week in and I feel like this week a week closer feels like we're starting to get back even in our daily lives. I mean I know. California extended their stay at home. I know I know New York is still very much closed for good reason. But it's like for the most part in the Midwest and we're like Kentucky and things like that where we were starting to these tracks to back up and even in California would stay home or at least we're like seeing racing's like okay. We can continue racing. We've seen the blueprint. We know how this can work without fans with central people there. We can continue racing so I think it's a huge sign of doesn't mean that Saratoga for instance are going to have fans there. I don't think it's going to the more we go. I don't see how it's going to all of a sudden this flip a switch and we're GONNA have fans but I think the race from from the start I've been worried the most about New York because obviously it's just so bad there and so I I just don't know yeah they're going to raise Saratoga but but are they gonna race the Belmont anytime soon. I really don't know it's kind of frustrating. I I know better than to than to go down this road but when you get on twitter and people are blaming naira and they're mad at naira and it's like guys you really think naira doesn't want to run. They want to run but they can't. They have to get permission to do it. So that really frustrates me when I see that but listen. They're ready they've got. They know the drill. They know what to do to get open. You know they know what the how they need to operate. But you have to have permission to do it from from from your state government. And they don't have that right now so it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough to convince Convince anybody that the racing needs to happen but it does need to happen if there so a few updates that we've learned this in the last couple of days about the Kentucky Derby and obviously adding No. We're still several tracks for waiting on. Obviously neither like we just talked about being one of those but as we started to get closer here where these track or these races are gonNA run So it sounds like right now. It's kind of run through these the hassles now going to be worth one hundred forty two nine tenths of one hundred point race the Pegasus which is like a prep school at Momma's twenty eight four to the the Matt win coming up next week. Which by the way that be a big big weekend weather wagering guide available next week for that fifty twenty ten five the Derby. Twenty eight four to Bluegrass and this is an interesting one. This one's going to be one hundred like it would normally forty two thousand ten but we're talking keeneland are they gonNA run into Churchill? I mean they're obviously keeneland race but on opening right now so I was really shocked when I saw this on the list so I stay tuned I think Churchill downs where the run it but the Ellis Park Derby fifty twenty ten five. That's fifty point racist interesting. And then the West Coast Santini Derby obviously coming up one hundred forty twenty ten lows Al Derby. Twenty eight four two in the shared belief at Del. Mar Fifty twenty ten five so few a few big races Starting off with the Matt Win next week. It's going to be all of a sudden back to Derby Derby points and that win and then a week off and then the Santa Anita Derby and those are going to be to premier races and I know we're kind of like on you know trying to figure this out but it's like okay next week Matt Win. Nashville is GONNA lead that race right two weeks later like you said you mentioned with the Derby. I mean authentic and API honor. Ap ARE GONNA run in that. I mean those are. Those are three very high at least believed to be high prospect. So yeah I mean even though we're kind of in this you know flex where it's like. Well we know we're going to get something going here pretty soon so yeah we got lots to talk about obviously talked about a little more with. Churchill. Santa needed coming up. We got some some random races this weekend. You know. The racing is extensive. But nothing majors are the stakes action goes. We're GONNA talk about a few of those and rapid fire before we do best things. Yeah it's such a great week. Even though we don't have the big stakes is still like a celebration this week. So that's kind of the theme. I'm going with The best thing happened yesterday for me and it was Santa. Anita finally getting that approval Iran. I mean that that like the way it was going to happen. That's why it was so great because I had given up and and really guys that the magnitude if they don't get to run say through July or the meats over and they missed the whole knee. People would have had to leave and I don't know if they came back I mean I. I think they were dangerously close to being done and so they get the news on Wednesday. Twitter just exploded. People are so happy. I was happy to you know it. So many people's livelihood day it revolves around Santa Anita and then running so man for them to be back with just such good news. Just a huge relief. I felt like a shot of adrenaline. When I read that because I really thought they were not going to be able to run well. Then they extended the state home order. I was like Shit. It's not gonNA happen now so now I definitely decisions like just in general that we're starting to see more of A. I don't know like an adoption of like okay. We understand kind of like we've been saying along it's like you know we understand. This isn't a norm but we can still make this work in not. It doesn't have to be perfect. So you have all these tracks starting to come back and say okay. We're GONNA run. We're going to get back to normal but it's GonNa be this or no fans or whatever and you're even seen that In sports a little bit be sort of kind of slowly. Planning a Comeback Year of the eighty two game schedule now starting in July and so obviously no fans will be there but it seems like all these these sports are starting to realize. Okay we can do. This is just a little different than what we plan so well in Gary Bettman of the NHL came out and said we will crown a Stanley Cup champion this year. I promise you so. They've got the works for a playoff. It'd be if it is literally didn't know season disturbed the playoffs. That's what they're gonNA do. That's what they're going to twenty four team playoff what they're talking about so. I obviously super nerve wracking. But it'd be so much fun to watch you know. Some people have been like that is just so dominant always have an ashtray. And it's just like people. What do you want them to do? Play the whole season in front of all the fans. You know what I mean. It's like how you have to be realistic with your expectation. Maybe they could play. Adam played three games a day every every day. Yeah Yeah for three months out of time they just have to get something done so it is one of the NBA will do. I mean they've got they'd be some similar you would think. Yeah I mean whatever and just like we talked about last week with triple crown. It's like if you did have a triple crown this year. You definitely have an ashtray. And there's another people I saw people. They need to run them in order in the Belmont. They can't change a distance is it's just. This is what was going to happen saying along. This is what is to get over it. Yeah Yeah does anybody like do we. Are we rooting for it? No but am I happy. It's not preakness week. Now we're going to run something you know. I'm glad that it's going to run and -actly I it. It is what it is. It's like you have a season it's weird and you'll look back and say remember when the triple crown that year but it was weird or I don't think you're imagining. Imagine if we had a college basketball website you know to be a little worse. Yeah yeah well. The the other year that we decided to start offering sports information on the side is when this happened so maybe that was the best thing I saw so I had one plan and then something happened earlier before you got here so when I did. That plan was like my my son. Colin Cooper broke his arm last and has been in the cast and there's a minor minor break. But maybe the doctor today and it's removable. Cast thing brace because there's only less than a year and a half old and so anyways Geiger poor a good one guy good report. It's off and keep an eye on them but from those parties. He's good to go. That was what I was going to be but then this one was too funny to not do not make the best thing so I have a an spy here in my office where I discount basically have collected over the years all the different credentials. We've gotten the press. Some Brusca tons of Pegasus just and I don't know why keep them. But now the I get the boys like they play with them and put them on whatnot. So we're playing with them earlier before you got here. I'm putting them on Koa. He wanted put them all on and I was like here. He's like I want to be. Jarrett calling. You said jared because they say jared right. Jared Dean Welsh and so I kept on and then I said here about this one. You can be slim. I had one of Slim's I said you could be slim and I put it on. He looked at me with his face. 'cause I don't WanNa be slaving is like think I think the Belmont one year. We got the Belmont Forum and I don't know yeah so I want to slim was the last. It was last year. He said there's no triple crown. I'm not so yeah. He doesn't want to be there. It was so it was so funny as well. That's fine you don't have to be slim so don't ever let him put those in his mouth. There's no telling how much alcohol's been spill on those drugs. Especially the Pegasus and Florida Derby. All the Gulfstream was off my best. I to be honest. I don't know where those are. There's no telling what I'd I'd probably got back or in the found in the middle of the panic. That is a funny idea. We're going to do that next time. Throw in the throw the passes in the fountain almost like a wishing well till next let them fish them out of there. I love that idea. A fantastic idea. Go after the last race on Pegasus to Florida Derby. Just chuck them in their money. Would that be at like two or three or four yearly jared? Aaron are always in this fountain every year. How like come on so I like that. In today's show we're going to discuss and preview the return of Churchill downs and Santa Anita Park this weekend in the dudes. We'll ratifiers like some of the major races going around the country this weekend after months of wondering if they're going to run win they're going to run. What's going to happen with the schedules? The stakes races were used to we're back. Churchill downs and Santana Park get the green light to come back and run so obviously no fans will be either one of them but it's huge sign for both tracks obviously and this in general sign that we're we're kind of getting through this so man you know it's like okay now all of a sudden you've got churchill downs bag endless throw in Girl in allowance race. Yeah so on Saturday. Race for multiple euro is a fortified favorite. The two-horse It's like welcome back. Churchill Down Churchill. Downs has to a fantastic fantastic cards this weekend. So highlighted by mom girl. But there's a there's like three or four really good allowance. Races on Saturday really allow trace on Sunday with a horse you own Toledo on in the Fancy League Toledo and wish right. But he's facing some really nice. Three Year Ozzy littlefield probably going to step up to stakes after this. If the ones that run well it just. It's so good in. When Oakland closed it Churchill definitely was the one the needed to get open know. Because it's just that's the next step that's where a lot of people go and to have the marquee track in the state of Kentucky Open was just very uplifting for the horse racing community so Yeah this is going to be a just a monster meet at Churchill You know you you already mentioned the Matt Win coming up next weekend which is going to be Monster Day. They've they've added other stakes races on that card. Thank there's five on the car and then Stephen Foster night is still going to happen to me later on the meat. So there's a lot to look forward to and and I guess speculation maybe the bluegrass on. Maybe by the end of the me like this. The Matt Win a prep for the BLUEGRASS. I I don't know that I mean all of a sudden being the winds were fifty than you would think that the next the next point would be one hundred point race at the. It seems that lay now. Who knows what's going to happen with that. That's all speculation but the the point of it is. It's Saturday is a celebration that it's back and we're going to have a really good solid meet at Churchill. Probably one of the better meets I've ever had. We'll really going to start. Because obviously you've had so many owners and trainers and whatnot just in this holding pattern waiting. Obviously Oakland picked up a lot of the slack but that was really good for the local trio people in thankfully we. We had a lot there but and they chipped in for steaks but for the most part like all of a sudden these traitors. When I can get back so you're going to start see this influx of horses and we haven't got to the west coast but you're starting to see this influx of horses that you're like like I mean I'm not by no means. Do I think Toledo is in the but that field? Say let's call that field that the Sunday allowance. You're going to start to see this kind of horses that you hadn't been seen yet. They're like okay. These are the horses that could step up into at least the Kentucky Derby type hopeful that emerged in the summer. So you're going to start to see these kinds of fields shape that we haven't been seen or been accustomed seeing so yeah. It's good to have these back kind of brings a whole new flavor. What do you think thinking about this earlier? Obviously Oakland just not after nine really most tracks running lately have been so records just because yeah what else bet. So what do you think about? Now that you're getting some of these really big ones like Churchill Santa Anita you think they're going to continue like are they going to continue the transfer of this day even though no no one's air they're going to hammer records? Yeah I think so. I think Churchill downs. This weekend is GONNA be incredible. I think it's GonNa be a really good telling sign for what we have become. You know what I mean the summer and into the fall like if these tracks that are opening up just continue to just to just blow it out of the water with no one there it. I think it really shows you too. How potentially healthy the sport could be if you just give good product. Sports Yeah keeps keeps on that on that subject. We're we're recording this Thursday night Charleston's on the fifth race and I just saw a tweet. They're averaging about four to five hundred thousand dollars A race in handles. So that's GONNA come out to. They're probably going to do three to four million dollars tonight. Charlestown and handle. Obviously that's very good for attract like that and then what will churchill do specifically really hard to predict that but I think it's going to be huge and you got to thank them and Gulfstream are going to compete with each other at the same time and then saying that. Nita is going to can compete with the later. Half and then they're going to be unopposed them and Golden Gate. So you're going to see big numbers You know it's going to be big. Does what she said. I know that anyways. So now as we move over to Santa Anita obviously Churchill's GonNa take you said GonNa handle the earlier earlier part of the day but then you head over to Santa Anita and it gets you back to that west coast racing. We're accustomed to and against another sign. Another question would be like candidate kind of you know we we know. He struggled with the short fields and kind of unable to fill races and then of course covert happened. And then you're like okay. So can we get back to because he know these trainers have been itching to run so surely there's horses run. We've got full fields Friday Saturday and Sunday at Santa Anita. It's unbelievable and you know Santa. Anita was making a little progress in that direction with fuller fields before this happened so it started to. Yeah so they. They kind of picked up where they left off plus some obviously because of the situation full field. I think you're GonNa see it throughout the meat because you said there in the run the God Iran. Somewhere Guy Rodney sources. I mean it's been six eight weeks for they'd been on track for Ray so Yeah it looks great. I think this meat really revolves around June six. Which is the same any the Derby Day? And they're also going to run the Gold Cup Tanzania and a few other races there big races there. I should say so. That's that's the big date to look forward to You know authentic verizon or a P is a just a huge huge event and we'll have other horses in there as well so it's GonNa be a lot of fun at Santa Anita this is again. It's it's definitely a condensed meet now. Because we've lost so much time. But I do think they're going to do what they can to make up for that loss time you'll be fun to see if you know given the Mazar we have out there like with the Bedford and whatnot. Like you know if there's any any you know hidden horses that might pop up here. They've been itching to run at Santa Anita The that really emerge as running. You know these convinced me but I can just imagine baffert having someone under the Hood. I think the Kentucky Derby winner is GonNa run at Santa. Anita doesn't matter which one it is. It's not going to be in the Derby but he's got one that's probably win the Derby skit ready to debut so that you think he's a winner after his workout today. He monstrous so visit saying fan. Yeah I'm a robot that it works in my article and I still never claimed him but anyways yeah he's a monster he's a he he looks like a monster to that. He pretty much any horse he. He was unbelievable in this less work out today. He's big time purchase. And obviously you know a Lotta hopes I you know I say the I mean he's going to have any started. Rick he's GonNa have a big shot to to be a factor in these steaks raise. You'll make history because you'll have the the first words Ever Win Kentucky Derby Day prior to me maybe be getting ahead of myself time. Derby winner but I think the sources really really good. I mean really. Good Paul Paul Paul. Then pull him yeah so he claimed like two months ago too so now. I mean I know I my radar but it's just like of course we didn't know what the plans were the Derby and whatnot but at that time but still you just like he claim a horse that you know that's never ran and there's going to be Might find out differently now. Listen how can happen but in the mornings he looks just as good as well stakes winner. So and I've been saying like with the doll and these horses you can tell when these adverse I mean are just looks locked and loaded in Charleston. These forces worked lights out in the mornings. And you can tell they're low end. This horse Kazan. Say's on I think it's how you said Cezanne Cezanne a think Yeah he just he. He looks the part. He has the ability for horse. Of course it's in the morning so we'll find out in the afternoon. The only thing that I did in this is dumb to say but at the same time I believe this. The only thing that gives me pause is his purchase price. Because how many times do you see one? That goes for really pay three point six five million eight exactly in hand out hardly any exactly so We're not going to talk about these races. So we'll at least mention them on Saturday. I mean like you say the cards are good. If you're if you're a a California bred Kinda guy girl whatever That's definitely your day Saturday. Because they are running two stakes races The Edco Eddie. In the evening jewel advancing definitely. You're kind of races We're not gonNA cover these races because we'll California breads and they're tough sure so you want picks where to go get them we will work. That'd be clear about when the dog were not handicapping. We're just do it on the podcast. We got more important things. Talk about But we'll have pigs for. I think what is so much is doing Friday Churchill. I think and then Saturday or maybe vice versa Saturday or maybe it's Friday. Danida is a Friday bombed riding santita. He's covering so bombs yes he's doing. He's doing Friday at Santa Anita Saturday Sunday. But we'll have premium big for those so you go check those out but On Sunday we'll talk about that coming up and is going to run into race. Gets MOTHER ON SUNDAY? It's Indiana so pre race in rapid fire Who's the Derby winner by the way? Well I don't know yet. We'll see I used have to see Honorary Felix Pretty. I don't I don't want to worry about that ratio. Let me try to find the MATT winner. I next week I met wing all well. I I'M GONNA definitely go against Max `field spoiler alert. I have to man. He'll never learn. I have to win against all. Well No I. I have my reasons for that. There's no good reason against all GonNa Cruise. Didn't go against the doll. I said I'm going to bet even thank four to five. You said you hated him off air. He's got up there and he's like I hate the worst. I told you offer that I don't like I said that about an adult already. Got My celebration planned for. He wins in Rome so I don't know but yeah so well I would say he's a defensive us for me. Yeah I wouldn't want him to knock me completely. It will take that back. I'll see the sequence but I don't know Mr big news is gonna run that like him. I don't know there's only two I've seen confirmed for that one. Yeah I think they're going to get twelve field so Churchill Santa Anita obviously we'll have magic is just absolutely killed on the side as far as content got the content We've all got content. So Ricky's Ricky's rockets will have content. Shah's integrate job. We got rider anymore. Sean Sean NHCD thing you see coming up so stay tuned for that. But we'll have a ton of content on the site covering all those big meats by the way I knew Sean. Because he listens I think he he didn't do some rapid fire that we're GONNA do three and Gulfstream. We're going to bypass the to Santa. We're going straight to Stanford on Sunday Gulfstream Park. Maybe some smaller stakes races. But it's definitely not lacking some some at least semi stars or at least potential stars rate six. On the day on Saturday the roar a threat the roar stake seventy five. You Know Seventy Five K. For three year olds six and a half furlongs field of six lines up for this one led by number five. Green light goes six to five more favorite. Are you going to try to beat the source? I mean if he doesn't win this one. Stick A four-game right got. It's really not because I think he's great because I really don't but this deal it of leaves a lot to be desired. Not from the moment I saw. He's in the race. I've never been a huge green light. Go Fan and I was like okay. Beat them obviously. You've got to go through the field. I'm like I don't know how you even. He ran terrible in the swell and number. There could probably win this race. That's the kind of racist is I. Just don't see a lot here in this in this. Still if he if he loses this like didn't right the seventy five thousand dollar roar state. I mean it's it's it is often eastern does well. He has to win this rate. Do you feel like it's very clear now that if it if it wasn't already let's be honest if it wasn't already it's pretty clear like this is this is like his distance. The running this is not like winds here and he goes to the Kentucky Derby Prep after that. It's like good luck. Think he's any good. I really I really don't think he's a great horse now. I don't. I'd be surprised if we see anything. Really Ultra impressive industries period. Even even if he wins. Oh yeah totally so. We're both on green light. Go race nine races later. Their race. Nine the powder the powder break sticks were phillies mirrors three girls and not going one mile on the Earth Bill. Ten until eleven with one hundred dollars well Philippine. Likely run by the way. I didn't check the weather because I've been reading some reports pretty decent chance. The it'll be wet. I think Sarah is supposed to be dry. But they're supposed to be a lot of rain today. Being Friday and an today Thursday today and Friday lead up to it so I imagine the the actual day might be dry but could be wet as far as turf goes and stuff so keen on. Having the reason I leave that up to God stormy runs in this race ninety five morning line. Favorite Cantor's a horse. It's always kind of known been known to like a fast surface in even said if it is soft we may just scratch her. You know kind of thing. Honestly it would surprise scratcher anyways because it's seventy five thousand dollars and we saw this last week with who is the horses. Scratched is going to run in the war. Things like that nature where you're like know they're gonNA run like no they're not gonNA run exactly so it's seventy five thousand dollar raise again. I had the same as assumed. She runs even with a soft surface if not her ideal thing. I it's a it's a exactly. She's better worse to go. But it's exactly the thing where it's like if you don't have to witness for. Yeah she really needs to win. I think she will visit view in here. I liked a little bit more than did in the other one. I should say. Yeah the one I remember one. I saw if not race but she's in the race. It's sad it's just another situation where to go more other than her I said would play the horse on the rail. The unknown its European ship. Coming OVER FOR RUNNING FOR SNIPER. Chad Brown one that would assume in the software service exactly has been over it a lot and you know Chad Brown Iran Ortiz. I'M GONNA put that horse in the multi-race place for sure and with got stormy now scratches. I think this becomes a much deeper. Multi-race play you're going to play through four because a lot of different things come into play happens but I don't really want to get too crazy with a bunch of combinations display the one in the ten an interesting one in this race as a seven. That's you know I it big time. Purchase for six hundred six hundred and fifty thousand dollars for todd. Pletcher undefeated never been beat. Haven't seen though since June of twenty nineteen Where she won Monmouth Park. She does have a winner of the service Gulfstream. Obviously I hope to start with this one won every race kind of easily to you know so you know? Yeah you know. It's a lot to ask her numbers. Don't compare to what got stormy is but one is to say got out of the race thing. All things considered well. It's all about this to what's out about is running at Monmouth. You know in the summer. When why not running around the ninth circuit for Fletcher usually since candidate B. ISH team down? So but I agree definitely of worse than it looks like as talented and obviously on record. You can't ever party gets that but if he's out in all of a sudden you're playing three or four horses. I think it definitely is a player in the race race. Ten lots one here that we're talking about a Gulfstream Park the musical romance stakes hundred cave. South Florida bred fillies. Mayor's going seven furlongs still nine lines up for this one. Seven two five Boylan favorite. On the seven lady's Island Unite. Talked about this little bit while we're handicapping like we both go. We both landed on got storm like Shit Gala. If you're playing that sequence starting to raise six you gotta like gotta find gotta find a winner. I gotta find a non Jock and Lady's silent another. Were so you and try to beat that. One or you just chock now. Think you have to play lady's island but I am going to try to put a different horse on top here. I'm going number three wildwoods beauty on I really like I read or TV Ford Year and has been running much much tougher. Racist Great Tune Great. Three events and finishing second lacerations once in San and wants to Sally's curling Racing Hurricane Gertie so I I like the class I think she could be around there. There seems to be a decent amount speed in the race and the source definitely is one that likes to come from as but I think she can sit a little bit closer as she drops out in class a little bit where she may not have to come first so far back so I'll give wildwoods beauty a chance. I think she's going to be a pretty square price because Lady Ladies Island. Let's look pretty good here. Lady's island gossip speed like their speed and keenly lady down three this worse flat blazes early on this date back to December of two thousand eighteen. When this worth the lead at first call? I mean it's unreal. I mean if he's on the front forget about so. Yeah I mean you know you're gonNA have the pay set up to be also gonNA take the beater. I'm going to go to the different one. I'm going to Blair for for todd. Pletcher LEWIS IS JUMPS ON HERE. The source winner of last to last two starts really is not a bit about horse her entire career the only one that can kind of literally draw a line through is the one where she lost a writer and that was three races back with winter last to finish second race prior to that as one for that my five ten combined in a second on debut facing a decent horses decent comeback. Winter's been running a little bit longer. So you get a little bit of life. This annual with Cutler's gets a nice Twenty five percent of the route sprint. So He's been running this route route. And it's like to me. It's always an interesting whenever horses winning routing this one one two stakes races including the grade three and then came back and won that stakes race. It Akwa Doug Going Eight. Both races at amount eighth in wins and then. So it's like why would you? But now we're cutting her back right. So if a horse's like Bernie terrible longer than you're obviously makes sense to to cut back but when worth winning. Oh that's interesting. So you gotta think they feel confident in the in the move so. I liked that a little bit especially in Florida one when the favorites. GonNa get pounded. I think so number two Blair and finally. Let's go to Santa Park on Sunday. We talked about this race earlier. Eight desert stormer stakes grade three hundred those fields and not going six furlong debate lines up for this one. It's a nice little fields earlier we don't have the is fighting mad for star mother. Mother amused bill. Pheno or to Tomlin hanging star really comes down to a few of these. Bob Efforts got a few fighting mad mother mother and then of course Bell Vena who kind of interesting spa for bird right now considering that she was a no show so to speed at which came to Oakland and that carousel raise comes back in off the off the short layoff. In here she is so I think. Now I'll give you my pin second but newsrooms. I don't want they'll Levin. I'm so mad at her after what she did it. Oakland. I can't go back so I'm actually going to go with Mother mother. I'm going to go number three mother mother. You know the source has been very competitive with with really really nice worse so it's not like I'm taking a flyer here. She's trying to do something I think. I think she's sitting on a pretty good race. She comes in the more arrested. Were like you just said well. We'll and back pretty quick. I was shocked to see belting industry and you know look wins in California at least runs well in California. But you know it's been a long time since horses crossed the wire first so off right-footer in the multi races that I'm I'm GonNa go with mother mother on top and better win on mother-mother I I just I can't get over out and how poorly delvina Iran and yeah. I know miss the break and lost all chance to win. I agree with that but she didn't lose all chance to lose by less than Tim Link Right. She didn't run where the damn it oaklawn. So I You know it's been long time since he's won a race. She's going to be down again because she's back home track. And is the classiest. Where's the field so I'll try to beat her mother? Mother it is it kind of facet of its kind of fascinating. Look at you mentioned. This word. Belkin has not won a race since Santa Nido counting right. It's been a long time. You know in granted from there you go to the yolks test. Killian gone back for the Breeders Cup run race and your brain run a big race miscued. Confetti and hard not to look too good horses mean he ran well both of them You said the Oakland one was kind of a no show slash Mr break but really it's a net. You're finally getting back to your drag your finally getting back to a race. I mean this is ran in not counting carrizo one two three four five six straight grade ones. Oh yeah tough races in now you get into this race and I kind of feel like okay this to me so shopped and set it on that show like I cannot believe. I'm GONNA pick her. I'm GonNa against going against my pag. Your blood pack a blood pact paper outside of California and I did it and I learned the hard lesson but guess what this race is in California and this. I DOES NOT LOSE IN CALIFORNIA. Very office all the time in California's California over a year six starts accents. Anita four wins and to be honest with you it. This is more of a grudge. No I think I touched me. She really pissed me off in that race if it really badly Mauka. Here's my line of thinking. Okay again this is asking for someone that is. I'm the same way like when she loves the Yolk 'cause like never again Never seen again is what I you know. It's like but so Saima galleon good trainer's not GonNa rush her back froze and this word comes out. And since the carousel right may tint puts out a board flies around the flies around the track interests are here so obviously. He's like to run. I mean he's not going run if Allah seemingly ready to run. She really didn't run last time. Though I mean other than I mean obviously the shipping may have taken something out of the race probably didn't because now I really like mother-mother so I think those two your play. I'm not singling. Bellevue by any means. Good I think mother they can beat her so I play in those to but heard it here. First it's tough for me because I like her like I do like I mean. I've been developing the fan for a while but I just really soured on her. I relied on you and that spot and for you to get beat is one thing but a no show just really slow bigger. We'll good thought that we have raised over free. Picks and our premium selection process patient Parks Lincoln Razi Dot Com to learn more. Remember that waging guide. Next week to win can be. I mean really. It's going to be a massive guide and a lot of implications like you said it was like five stakes. Something did they cover on their big town. So we'll have that available sometime next week for you guys currently covering tracks are we covering this point. Well we're going to have ten. We've were up to ten double digits. Yeah I. It's the first time we've been in a on first time we've been double digits since about. I think March twenty first that weekend. I think we may have still had tim left. But you work out for you now. You've been slacking off. I did honestly I really enjoyed. I Friday's which had I think. Seven and like man. This is nice to not have to Remington and low south of no this eating Gulfstream even just and over and over and every week. It's the same day on track. It was so nice to see. Churchill. Say Golden Gate today. I mean heartbreaking loss last race by a head but we had four horses going to that big six in just the most brutal brutal but we we had a good day still handicapping Hicks and it was just. It was good to see another track in the jockeys trainers. It's like you really take for granted how much you like handicapping tracks in how it just breaks up the monotony of Gulfstream. Again like all I'm doing is Gulfstream. I feel like you know so. That's no offense to golf stream. It's just when you're the only game in town for weeks and weeks and weeks. It gets old after a while news. Update for you. I watched through both the eleventh time the other night. It is does your Stanley Cup yet. but I mean that's a lot of times for sure but you gotta understand like this happened. Well there's nothing going into quarantine and literally turn on the TV. If I have any anytime like I some on like hey watch superbowl. There's nothing watch is awesome ever told me I love it so yeah I've watched it and I'll probably watch a few more times Mike to you before. Oh the schedule came out talked about it last week. I mean the biggest tickets are astronomical. I don't really care So let's plan for that. Obviously we don't know the opener I'm planning obviously. I'm going to the opener. Assume THEY'RE GOING TO FANS I've met with my cousin. He says they'll play with no fans. I say it's either fans will be there or it's not going to happen. That's what I think. I think it'll be fans. Oh Oh I don't think it'll be fans aren't there. It's not going to happen that I that I strongly disagree with I. Just I don't see any way fans won't be there didn't fill needs a fans. I think. Well every sporting fans I think it's severely fifty fifty lies like baseball even hockey. I know how he's a little different. Because it's tight quarters sort of the baseball especially like especially it's like you can play a game without fans and it's all like like playoffs would be but not postseason would be bad but my point is is planet. Nfl game with no fans would be so. It's so weird weird. You're talking about this because I was. I was on the phone with my dad on the way to. Your House mentioned in college game and we said football and hockey would be is is going to be or could be or would be whatever you want to put in their bad without fans. It's going to be boring because the fans make the atmosphere. Baseball is like it's quiet. Most whatever yeah basketball we can talk back and forth. We don't think it has as much of an influence as hockey or football. But yeah I mean it's very like people don't realize how weird that's GonNa be but you talk about you know talk about Arrowhead. How part of his teams because the fan noise and just fear in. And you just literally scrimmage you know is very strange Football and hockey is going to be working. You go back and you watch any football. Such a spectator sport. There's so many people there eighty nine thousand people at these games right. You go watch a hockey game. The fans are into the game. Oh Yeah Yeah. Nba can be quiet in the arena at times imbue. It'd be weird for sure but it wouldn't be as bad as hockey and definitely not. Nfl and college football. So it's nothing but I'm with you. I think a lot of people are like there's no way they'll be fans and I. I don't think if I had to bet I would say no but I'm not like hard against it like I think there's a shot but I'll tell you this my ass be there if I'm allowed to be there at any that game. They is Tampa. Whatever I'm going really afraid to it either I yeah. I'm not either. Give a track opened up. I would go yeah I would. I guess what I'm not gonNA wear mask either. Neither I haven't or masked yet so I did you know pissing off but well first of all preference that with where we live. It's really I lived in New York absolutely a Los Angeles or a city. Yes but you're talking about county that has like twenty cases and we're going to Walmart and gas station or whatever and it you know. It's like in the product areas this country. It's just not see people wearing them in cars though. That's what I don't it's just amazes me. It's like you've been in my life today because I talked to my insurance agent and he goes if I see one more person with a mask in their car and having a panic attack. He's why are you wearing it in your car? You're with yourself. Yeah but anyways. Yeah no I mean. It's it's funny when we talk to slim or Ricki or a curtis or or or Ryan on the West Coast Slim Ricky on the east coast. How different their outlook of it is. Because they're living in and I would be scared but here it's just it's not. It's never been real scary especially what we're able to do from home and whatnot. We don't have to get out very often so it's and we've been blessed to be able to do that and a lot of people can't and so we're definitely been fortunate in that regard but yeah. Hopefully they play. I'm I'm very hopeful. So schedules out. I think fourteen into that's my goal. I'm going fourteen into so you know it's one they'll games think they're GONNA lose. I think fourteen to should happen. I think thirteen and three more likely because there will be like one of those games. You're just like you ause did lose but there's a few other tough teams in there as well. You could see it going either way but yeah I think fourteen to should be should be should be the goal right. You're listening on soundcloud. Google play music stitcher even the website rates. Dot Com magic. Show took them out as well right. I'm doing well. He's an and got a big show next week show next week when Matt Win. 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Fantasy Football Overtime Trailer

Fantasy Football Overtime

03:33 min | 1 year ago

Fantasy Football Overtime Trailer

"Welcome to the fantasy football overtime. Podcast I'm your host. Jay Ski with Muzorewa's is Matt Win and Tyler. Holler back guys how you doing. I'm doing fantastic jake. I mean we've been talking about this for years. I'M ECSTATIC THAT. We're finally turned in her dream into a reality. Yeah doing super awesome. Yeah it seems like we were talking about this a few years back over a couple beverages and finally come into a reality. It's been a long time coming. Glad to hear super excited be doing this Matt. What got you into fancy football. My Dad got me into it. I actually joined my first fancy football league at age. Twelve it was a touchdown only league. I won the League and I've been addicted ever since an age twelve. That's that's unbelievable. It's great that you started that. Young Tyler. What about you? I started way back around. Twenty years ago in high school early college back when we had to keep track of stats on a big sheet of paper and wait for Monday or Tuesday morning newspaper to get the official stats salary early. Starting to show your age with the the newspaper and Talking about twenty years ago being high school. Yeah Yeah Yeah Jay Cutler you get your start. Yeah so I actually started a middle school We did our first draft in our school library. It took us about three to four days to do because we only did it before school started but it was awesome. I was hooked at that exact moment. What did your librarian seem to think of that? She couldn't figure out what six guys were doing. Yes it was a six man league. She couldn't figure out what six guys were doing the library. So Jake tell us a little bit about kind of the leagues that you specialize in. Yeah so most of what I do is typically going to be auction and dynasty are really start to focus in on that. Typically it's half. Pr's hit that middle ground with nine PC NPR. Folks Tyler about you. Yeah I tend to stick to redraft leagues Maybe with keeper to usually in the PR scoring format. And then I do like to dabble in. Dfs usually have an emphasis on GDP multi entry type tournaments Matt. I know you're not the biggest DABBLER. But what are you tend to focus on so my main focus is going to be on Keeper Leagues and Redraft Leagues? I do you know anything from to standard half point-scoring but I think that's what's going to be really cool about this podcast and what our listeners are going to get a lot of value out of is that we're not just going to hone in on one or two different leagues. Yeah that's the great thing about fantasy. Football is going to have disagreements between the three of US YEAR. GonNa disagree with us as well but one of the best parts about fantasy. Is You get to see who was right at the end of the year whether you know you thought one running back was better than the other which rookie wide receiver finishes higher. You know. It's just good to be able to get those bats and banters in with your friends like a Christian McCaffrey Taylor. Let's not talk about that one. And that's what's great about having all three of us here is. You're not going to get the same opinion on everything. are from Minnesota. We all are Minnesota Vikings fans but we have learned that through our hardships that you cannot be biased. Super Bowl yeah fantasy. Football is all about bragging rights. We're going to do whatever we can to give you the advantage over your league. We WanNa win our league and our main goal is to help you win yours while adding some entertainment.

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FFOTParty Trivia Show Episode 015

Fantasy Football Overtime

20:31 min | 10 months ago

FFOTParty Trivia Show Episode 015

"Welcome to the fantasy football overtime podcast guest. I'm your host Jigs Isky with Muse always is Matt Win and Taylor back? Good morning, everyone last episode we finished our divisional breakdown so today we're going to give ourselves a little bit of a break, and we're going to do some trivia and Taylor has got a great game prepared for us today, but first. Let's check in with Matt and Tyler. How you fell. Doing I am sore. The gyms opened up here in Minnesota, so got some squats and dead lifts and bench in, so I'm walking around like a just got done right in. In a horse like James Connor Yeah Oh, I'm feeling the same way I am extremely sore. I went and worked out two days the first two days the gym back up and I literally could barely even get out of bed. It's Kinda Sad. How much you lose in two months, but it's a good sore feels good to be back. You guys are making me feel really bad because I have not gone to the gym yet, but I also am going to. To the doctor to get my shoulder, re looked at so i. feel like I have a pretty good excuse. Hopefully that second opinion is what you want I. Sure Hope so because I'm really sick of dealing with this man how you feel and we have a big day coming up. I'm feeling good. Yeah, we got the Bachelor Party tomorrow. Looking forward to it and we talked about it a couple of episodes ago, but I haven't seen a majority of my friend. Friend Group in a couple of months, so it's GonNa be really fun to get everybody back together, looking forward to hanging out with everyone and having a good time I'm also looking forward to the under hitting on those ices. Sure is not. It is definitely not going to do I might buy a couple of cases is just for it. I am also couple cases, so that's twenty four beer ices already waiting for you all right? Let's not get too carried away. No No all right gentlemen, let's jump into some coin flips. Somebody give you guys a little bit of background information on this one I. This one's going to be eighty p based PR redirect. Sure things I want you guys to think about during the is for all of them. All of them cool all right ready. Ready I one awesome excellent. Joe mixon Nixon Joe Mixon K., Aaron Jones Kenyan Drake Drake Kenyan drake drives Kelsey George Gidel Kelsey Kelsey DJ. More Amari Cooper Moore, said I. Michael Thomas Ezekiel, Elliott Thomas. Ezekiel, Elliott Michael Thomas Delvin Cook. Thomas Micheal, Thomas Alvin Kamara Thomas. Kamara, Camara or Zeke Kamara Zeke Mike. Hayden hearst. Hayden hearst. Finally met joins the hidden her club last one Blake Darwin Johnny Smith Johnny Smith so you guys actually picked the person that was getting drafted second in almost every scenario until it came to Michael Thomas. That's why I did that. See The guy going I in according to ADP. You guys actually picked the guy. Go and second so mixing. Hecklers over mixing as of right now it got flip-flopped. I was just looking at Elliott Yeah I. I don't know if it was for the day or what, but when I hit refresh echlert going before mixing by one pick that actually makes sense to me because we always preach about value, so don't overdraft players. Yeah, thought those pretty pretty interesting the Michael Thomas those. Flip flop, but yeah for everyone else. You guys actually picked the guy's gone second for me when you have a stud running back or the star elite number one wide receiver. I'm still going the star running back because running back such a more difficult position to fill perfect sounds like a plan, tyler, what do you have for today? I am super excited, yeah! Yeah big jeopardy episode Tyler. What do you got for us? Yeah, our first edition of F F, OT party. It's GonNa take after jeopardy. The popular game show, so we're GONNA have twentyfive questions all with one through five hundred dollar value. You has buzz in just with your name so just Matt Jaekle say Jake, make sense. Right I think I got that part. So I say Matt Kata. And they'll be to double jeopardy's so you'll be able to wager. Keep track a score and everything, and there'll be a final jeopardy at the end. You will go negative for missed questions as well. That's fine. I'M GONNA. Need all those points because I'm going all in the double jeopardy. I can already tell you they're the final jeopardy. That's my strategy. The odds of finishing positive points jake is. Is Very Slim. There's twenty five questions. We'll see all right. I'll give you guys the five categories here it's A. How do you league? That's GONNA. Be questions around just fantasy, football leagues, common terminology and Fantasy football mascots armchair for reels and beyond football can already tell you that beyond football's probably your category Matt we'll see it all depends. What kind of questions or coming here I don't know. All Right? Let's let's jump in. I'm ready and we'll do a little coin. Toss here to see who goes first. Tales. Tales number fails. That's correct. Jake, start all right. Let's jump in with. How do you league for three hundred? You don't want the big one I got to see what the category is. I might be awful at it. Pool of players available for acquisition after the draft Jake. What is waivers? You are correct. I forgot that could buzzer. Idiot. I got to go no I. Just got to pick the first category shoot. Okay, give you that do I go again? Yeah, Oh sure I watch jeopardy in a while. Let's do mascots for three the Tennessee Titans Mascot called T. Rack is named after this animal, the state animal of Tennessee. And all the time Fellas Dang it was the raccoon, or what is the raccoon I never would have guessed that Jake didn't say what is on the first question. Get, is there you? Shoot. Don't try to be technicality trap. Line all right. It's continue the theme Armchair three hundred in the twenty-seven season, he became the oldest player to average more than eighteen fantasy points per game. You say the year again. Two thousand seventeen. Jake. Who is Aaron Rodgers and darn it? And who is Tom? Brady, Shoe Scher Thinking quarterback. Jake you're still still the picker here really matches going to try to play it easy and get zero points. Jake just lose points though he did. Score is zero zero. Okay well, this is fitting. Let's do for reels for three hundred. This player holds the record for most consecutive games with at least one touchdown, two or more touchdowns, as well as three or more touchdowns Matt drew. BREES Jake who is Aaron Rodgers? The. Correct answer is Ladainian Tomlinson Oh. Wow, we're awful. This is going to be hard. Ya member when you're giving me crap about being negative. Yeah, we'll. We're tied at negative. No Man's negative, three hundred zero. Oh No, you lost on that one, too yeah, negative three hundred from me his well. Yeah, let's make sure the scores correct or I have to go look. Yes, sir, well beyond football for three hundred at age eighteen. He was youngest ever to defend a Wimbledon singles title wild, okay. Rough Start Fellas. These are hard Matt Rafael and the doll and. Jake. Roger and Neither one of us who is either? Boris Becker. If. These are the three hundred point question worried about five hundred. Beyond football five hundred. Yeah, let's you at this. At Up to three hundred by two hundred yards or over five acres, this sport has the largest plain field of any jake. What is cricket and Darn it? You're pretty confident on that one. Throughout the most random support can think of what is golf and what is Paulo? Close, all right beyond football four hundred. Skip these out of the way. Number One by Sandy Colfax OJ Simpson and Magic Johnson. What is thirty two? Wow We got serenity answer. That one especially when she said magic all right beyond football two hundred while in football, the jets represent New York in hockey. They represent this. Canadian city Jake. Jake was I. What is Winnipeg? And Finish it out beyond football for one hundred, and actually we should. Probably we have to let you finish the question. Yes, we care Yup and close the head official in soccer, hockey, football and boxing referee. What is the referee? Who is the referee whatever? I'm just excited I finally. Get to pick a category hosa feel. I've picked what ten already now feels good and I'm going to tie it up right here. How do you league for five hundred? This format of fantasy football involves the initial draft followed by no setting up or update in your lineup, or whatever's Matt? The team with the most points at the end of the season becomes crowned the champion magic. Best Ball that should be a penalty when he said his name six times the middle of the question that he was done. I'll give another chance to get back here. Jake, how do you leak for four hundred God who just keep saying my name the whole time. Competitive Leagues can use this system where a dollar amount is set for teams to us over the course of the season on free agents. Jake. What is Fab, which stands for free agent? WHO AUCTION BUDGET Matt! Free agent acquisition budget. Some US Yeah Buddy I'll take that. How do you league for two hundred term used to describe a teams running game when it consistently uses more than one running back in a game Jan streak running back by committee. Can we get a score update? Yes, Matt has negative one hundred. Jake has negative, three hundred perfect, howdy, league for one hundred term used to describe the backup player who would start if the player head of him were benched or injured Jake. Handcuff. Let's do for reels for five hundred. This is a double jeopardy one who daily double or daily double, even though you have zero point or negative points. You have negative two hundred. You can wager up to the amount of the question, which is five hundred, and only you can answer it oh. Let's do five hundred Oh man, do I lose the points. Don't answer like if I don't have an answer. Yes, now, SKIRT GOPHER! This player holds a record for most consecutive seasons with one plus touchdowns. Really need you to get this wrong I. Probably will most consecutive seasons with one touchdown crack. Who is Brett Farve? I did not like that answer. WHO IS JERRY RICE? Newest someone who played for a long time couldn't think of anyone outside of Brett Farve Tom. So digest just a thousand unsure did oh, boy got risk to win it. It's not looking good so far. I won't even feel good about this if I finish negative to though. I need the other double jeopardy here. WHO GETS TO PICK? This question year Jake Jake style for real for four hundred tastes. Some hill last year caught six touchdown passes despite finishing the season with only nineteen receptions for two hundred and thirty four yards. This player is the only active player who has finished his season with even more touchdown catches while finishing with even fewer receiving yards. Matt Darren fells. Mike Vrabel and John Ross twenty. Eighteen twenty one passes for two hundred and ten yards and seven touchdowns, and you mike able cuts touchdowns. Hoping I'd get that on. How much did we just lose their for four, so it should be right now. Matt with minus five hundred. You don't need to say my score. Jake with minus sixteen hundred. Oh. Yeah, that's what I got to. Frills for two hundred among active players, his the only non quarterback who has been named the League's MVP Jake. Adrian Peterson. Nice for reels for one hundred. The team that wins the Super Bowl is awarded a trophy named for Him Matt, Lombardi Trophy and the Vince Lombardi trophy. You, kidding no, not at all, not even like. No, don't you elaborate? NOPE, you didn't give me Fab mid me. Explain it well, Fab you got to at least try to spell it out. Your first answer was wrong. Wow, all right all. Mascots for one hundred. This team's mascot is named. Poe Matt Ravens. Good job would have never that one. I suppose. That's me mascots to hundred. Double Jeopardy who? Oh so the most I can do is only two hundred anyways, so do the hundred the mascot of the chargers. It's gotta be some form of lightning bolt but I have no idea. I will say what is Bolt, and you're very close without knowing bolt man. Oh boy! This is hard enough. You got to be given us all man. I would have guessed the exact same answer. Your up again map. So, what did I lose their for? So we should have with negative. Nine hundred Jake would negative thirteen, hundred, making closer, all right mascots for four hundred the New Orleans saints. Mascot is named after what food, Dish Jake. Gumbo. Oh mascots for five. This team's mascot is called Captain Fear Jake. The Tampa, Bay Buccaneers She. You know your mascots apparently so. Do some armchair for one hundred the number one player in consensus fantasy football rankings this year Matt Christian McCaffrey. Voice, over disappointed if you've got. Armchair four hundred. In two thousand seventeen, these two players became the first teammates to finish the season in the top six in fantasy points. What year two thousand seventeen? Jake Antonio Brown and Juju Smith Schuster and And Alvin Kamara and Mark Ingram Dang same position. Even what's the score? The score is Matt minus. One Thousand Jake minus eight hundred. Wow! We are putting on a clinic his tough. You're not being flexible answer. This is really good, tyler. Let's do the last one since two thousand fifteen. This is the only NFL team to have two different first overall ranked fantasy players in two consecutive fantasy football seasons while I'm trailing, so I guess I'll go matt steelers. Nice? That was what I was going to say, too. I just could not get myself buzzer. Bell in fifteen in Antonio in Sixteen Harnett I knew that. Taking the lead at the last. Thought to exact same thing, all right final jeopardy is going to be a little bit interesting here. Yeah, how should we do it? With both negative scores normally be eliminated. What is it? It's Matt's up pilot three hundred now. Yeah, yeah, mad has minus five hundred. You have minus eight hundred. Should we just do whoever gets this right wins like I'm sure you'd like. I mean. How else do you add up a negative score like I? Mean that's the route a goal. We have gotten like similar questions. Right and wrong say that's probably the most fair way we will sock. This is really really hard. Yeah, I went last question winner takes it all. If we have no answer, you win like that's Terr- that's the best way to do it all right final question. This coach is the only one to win coach of the year with. I go ahead and write your answers down boys, so we can reveal at the same time. I gotta guess both of you. Had Your answers written down Yup Yup Matt. Who did you have written down bill cower and that is not the answer jake. Could you ever done John Madden and? The correct answer was Jimmy Johnson cowboys. Yeah in nineteen ninety. He had a record of seven and nine. How did he win coach of the ear? Do, they make the playoffs. No idea they had made the playoffs. Maybe they are coming from like a Owens sixteen season. Maybe while Matt is the first fantasy football overtime podcasts jeopardy winner with negative points. Yeah, I! Don't feel too good about this hard fought victory. Let the other I guess until the are negative in insurer. Mile take, Yup, hey, maybe next time we won't go negative window in I completely get it. No, I mean I think technically I would've won if we wouldn't have had the negative because I think I answered more correct, but I took more chances doubled that you're going to go. Yeah, the double jeopardy really really asked me. Well Tyler, it was a good time I would say it would be in a better time if I had one. I'm not gonNA fault you for my downfalls. Although I'm a little upset about FAB, but we'll move on. It was time auction budget I'm sued I. Honestly had no idea what it was. I'm upset about bolt man, so I feel you there. No, I've actually never have looked up the definition of FAB. I just knew the. It's called Fab. And it's an auction so I don't think that bad of I guess actually. Define Gas, but you didn't get points for it. No, you're right, so. You also did not get points for the Lombardi trophy. Another one mad about. All the technical name is the Vince Lombardi. Would have gotten if I got a second. Guess like you got with them, no! No no, because you completely different scenarios. I actually can understand had to spell it correctly. You had one opportunity to say the correct name of the trophy negative, five hundred and negative eight hundred. Rocket. picky promoting that one. We'll try to make it a little bit easier next time, fellows. Perfect no good game I. IT Matt is just Sore, even though he won for some reason, but anyway those great episode. Thanks for putting that together Tyler. It was a lot of fun. congratulations Matt. You are the very first winner of the fantasy football overtime podcast party episode, so congrats shake! You're welcome. Preview our next episode where we keep it simple. We breakdown kind of complex things. Things that we might think is easy, but some of you who are just getting into fantasy football might not know what it means, but until next, that's going to wrap up today's episode. Make sure you hit the likes share subscribe, follow us on facebook. 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Keep It Simple Silly  Episode 016

Fantasy Football Overtime

40:31 min | 10 months ago

Keep It Simple Silly Episode 016

"Welcome to the fantasy football overtime guest I'm your host Jake. With me as always is Matt Win Tower back. What a weekend we had, but first let's jump in. We're going to do the keep it simple episode here today. Matt I gotTa Ask. How are you feeling? You know it's still pretty rough. I don't know if the over or the under hit I sure think is the over, but we have a lot of bottlecaps stored in my pocket, said I still need to count. It was it was it was great to see. Everybody was an absolute blast. Yeah, it was great, got some golf in hung out with a bunch of as a good time. The place we stayed at an absolute mansion to it was really really cool. How crazy that one kitchen had been worth like a million dollars? Maybe not that much, but it was probably up there so good golf for you guys not for me, but good golf and of course Matt I'm pretty sure they overhead yeah a lot of yard games, so that was awesome We had some beautiful weather, which was also awesome, but yeah. I'm I'm not feeling the best today, so it might be a little bit of a rough episode for for your boy here. congrats on survive in your Bachelor Party Dessert Menu officially survived. Thank you. All Right? Should we jump into news for map? Yeah, so it's not even as much news because it's not really recent, but I just want to kind of talk about it. Because I think it's kind of been lost in translation with everything going on I'm referring to the collective bargaining agreement that came in April. There was seven major changes, but I want to highlight three of them so first off starting in two thousand twenty one. They think it hasn't been official yet, but it sounds like twenty twenty one. The regular season is now going to be seventeen games instead of sixteen. They're ultimately converting a preseason game to a regular season game so I want to talk about. About the benefits first, and then the negatives, and then I want you guys. Opinions on the benefits are obvious. One more game equals more money for the NFL amp layers, and we also get an extra week fantasy football. So what's not to like there? The negatives Zo are additional injury risk and for me. The biggest issue is long time records that are going to be broken I'm someone that's huge on history I love the long-term stats, but now adding an extra game. A lot of those records are likely going to be broken so with everything that I just said I'm curious what your guys opinions are for me. Me, I'm big on live in the now. Not The past. It was completely different football back then compared to now so those records aren't all that important to me I think the big benefit is of course the extra game and if they're taking that game away from the preseason, preseason isn't even really football anyway, so why not just have towards the regular season? Absolutely in agreement there you know, get rid of the preseason games. You'll add an extra one season. That's awesome and get more quality football in. Yeah, those records. They're all GONNA fall anyway. The what the League is changing the passing Eric Dickerson's rushing record is never. Never GonNa fall so really the only ones that we're going to change her the passing records I. Think in my opinion. Yeah, so I. Think there's some pros and cons I think I view the history as a little more important than you guys, but overall we get an extra game of football. So that's going to be cool, but again that is not going to be starting until next year. At the earliest, the next piece that was updated and changed is actually something that's going to happen this year in twenty. Twenty playoff teams are expanding from twelve to fourteen so only the top team in the conference will now. So, it's GonNa. Be Harder to get by, but one of the middle pack teams are also going to make the playoffs now. That previously wouldn't have I love this. What about you guys? I'm in favor of it. I think it might even create more competitive football coming down the stretch, because only one team gets that by so those top teams are really going to be badly and for for that W to get that by yeah, it's GonNa. Keep more teams. Teams fantasy relevant. It's also going to keep more teams wanting to play football so I. Like Yeah I think at the end of the year. It's kind of frustrating when a team already has the by locked up and they sit there players, it makes perfect sense. I understand why they do it, but for fantasy purposes it can be kinda frustrating a team already. Has It locked up in week sixteen and that's your championship and they sit him so I really. Really enjoy that I think it's GonNa. Make it more competitive at the top, and then I think it makes it more competitive just with the teams that are right on the bubble so overall I really really liked the new playoffs. That's going to be set this year and then the third one that I wanted to highlight is rookie. Contracts will increase players who outplay them to. There's obviously a variety of different things that goes into the term out playing their. Their contract, but let's just say under the old CBA. The collective bargaining agreement that a player will say a player could win MVP in their first year and a super bowl and super bowl MVP in year two who is player, just a hypothetical I don't know if anyone oh wait. Actually Patrick Mahomes did that. He can have that super bowl MVP with an asterix, because that's gone a Damian Williams disagree. It's all to Patrick Mahomes so the way that it. It used to work is they wouldn't get a bonus. Obviously, if you're playing that well, you're going to very likely. Get a huge contract with your next contract. Anyways, but now Patrick Mahomes for example would have made more money due to all of the different criterias that he met and exceeded what you asked about that overall. Yeah, they deserve those kinds of bonuses. If they come out, dominate, I would like to see more contracts just all around the League Goto. Goto. More incentive based scored a touchdown. Get a million dollars. That's just hypothetically speaking more just create more competition rather than only out sitting out faking injuries things along those lines so rather than guaranteed money. You just like to see more incentive based. Yeah, just like a flat. Okay you. You get a million dollar for this contract for each reception you have you get ten grand each touchdown, egot a hundred grand. You know really encourage more play. I think that. That would help the running backs. That's for sure these guys. They're kind of getting the shaft on their rookie deals all right, so that segues perfect into what we are talking about next Jake with Alvin Cook so here is what you need to know about the Delvin Cook contract. Situation, I'm sure we've all heard the recent news that he plans to hold out if his contract demands aren't met so I wanted to kind of dig into it and see exactly. Exactly what it looks like and generally speaking, you only get one big contract at the running back position after your rookie deal is up, I don't think it's any secret that running backs have the shortest shelf life of any position in the NFL, so signed his rookie deal in two thousand seventeen. It was a four year six point. Three million dollar contracts will ultimately delvin has been dirt cheap for the Vikes, but that's because one is on his rookie. Rookie deal on the old see. We talked about in two. He was selected in second round of the draft just to give you a broad view of how rookie contracts work first round draft picks get all four years of their base salary. Fully guaranteed second round picks only get the first two years of their base salary guaranteed a rookie original contract vary significantly depending on where they are selected in the draft, so for example if you're drafted in the first. First Round you're signing. Bonus is significantly higher than somebody who's drafted outside of it so with Dalvin being drafted in the second, that was another factor that played into his current contract. There's also a thing called a rookie pool or rookie salary cap, and it's essentially a cap within a cap that was also part of the collective bargaining agreement. So that simply means there's a limit on what every team can pay. Their rookies and the salary has to fit within. Within the regular salary cap, so this is where the holdout comes into play. Dalvin has been injured all three seasons of his career. He's one of the most talented running backs in the league when he's healthy and he obviously wants to get paid right now. This is window of getting paid. He's looking at McCaffrey. He's looking at Zeke. Elliot Todd Gurley. Levian, Bell David Johnson who are all making thirteen, million or more year in when he looks at, he says. Says Hey. I'm just as good as them. The contrary to that is he's only showed up to fifty percent of his shifts at work, and now he's demanding eight times his salary. So that's to kind of put it in contrast, so that's kind of an interesting way to look at it, but I think the average fan looks at this just just says. Hey, you've signed a deal. Honor Your contract. How can you be so greedy, but I don't think. Think? It's any of our places to talk about another man's money so I fully understand delves standpoint, but I also understand why the fans are upset. He's an injury prone running back and he wants to make money well. He can a lot of Info there. What do you guys think about Delvin cooks current situation for me. I think about it this way I pay fifty dollars a month for Internet, and it only works from midnight to eight in the morning. Morning, but now the Internet company wants to charge me one hundred dollars for that same service so like it's not worth it for the Vikings, but yeah Dalvand can ask for whatever he wants. He can ask for one hundred million dollars a year, but he's not worth it it just like you can sell your house. It's one hundred thousand dollar house for five hundred thousand. You can ask whatever you want. But WHAT ARE PEOPLE GONNA pay for it and I? I don't think anybody's GonNa. Pay Delvin Cook Sixteen million a year I don't think anyone's giving him sixteen, either but I do think he deserves a raise. I mean his rookie deal. He's outplayed that when he's been on the field. So that's the caveat. Is he worth ten is worth eight. You know what's the magical number I think he deserves a raise, but at a reasonable price, because vikings have no cap space to sign him, yeah, and the vikes offered. offered him I mean it's rumored at roughly ten million per year, and he turned it down, stating that he wants sixteen million per year I, personally would have thought ten million would be about the right contract for Alvin is one of the best players in the league when he's healthy, but he misses half of the time, so it's going to be interesting to kind of see what the Vikes end up doing. Make sure that you are valuing Alexander Madison. Than you were previously because it's a very real possibility that we don't see Dalvin at the start of the season or at all, also a lot of people are going to forget about this is value in Phelan. Jefferson go up drastically here as well if cooked whole out because more than likely, the Vikings are going to be trailing a little bit more I mean. There is a big difference between Cook and Madison So. So they're going to be throwing the ball significantly more to players like feeling and Jefferson absolutely so with the word of the hold out here. Where do you guys move cook to you know? What range are you more comfortable? He was going as you know the fourth fifth six pick typically and drafts. How far down does he need to fall for you to draft him confidently without drafting right now for redraft, it's. It's all hypothetical so like third around. Yeah, I mean I'm definitely not drafting him in the first round anymore. We've seen a lot of these holdout con situations, and some of them workout, and some don't so Ezekiel. Elliott was starting to hold signed right before the start of the season last year he was only limited in the first game of the season, and then he was back, but then we've seen it where. Where Melvin Gordon sits out half the season. We've seen it where Levy. Bells sits out the entire season, so we don't know for sure how this is going to play out. There's definitely risk, but if you're drafting Delvin I, would I would maybe be taking him around the middle of the second round, but I'm absolutely going out and getting. Alexander Madison. Then Kenyan Drake Cook. It's actually the the one I wrote down. wrote that Don I don't think this holdout last so I would take. I'd go Kenyan drake because he has a ton of potential and you know he's going to be on the field. If there's a player that's in the similar category, I'm taking them. Overcook. LA, Belle or Delvin cook who I would go delvin Cook there because I don't put lead bell in the. The same category that's about where my cut off his right around there, so Josh Shakeups Mile Sanders I would take both of them over Delvin at this exact. Jacobs Zero Sanders no Nick Chubb in a full Pr. Yes, I would take him over Cook Right now. Yeah, go, let segues here to the rest of the coin flips that I have for you guys. Sobe base just like last time. It's ADP and it is four point PTR. Redraft only how I want you guys to look at this first one Matt Ryan Drew Brees Ryan Matt Ryan Josh Allen Carson Wentz, Josh, Allen Josh Allen. Rahim MOSTER Mark Ingram Ingram. Brahim most Kareem Hunt the Andrea Swift Kareem Hunt Hunt De'andre Swift Jonathan Taylor Taylor Jonathan Taylor the Andrea Swift Kim acres swift, deandre swift, David Montgomery, Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor Montgomery Ronald Jones Kareem Hunt, Ronald Jones Kareem Hunt. Darius Guys Philip Lindsay Lindsay Philip Lindsay Terry maclaurin Jarvis Landry Landry Yeah Jarvis Landry Landry Stefan Digs Landry Landry digs DJ shark. That is a good one. I'm going DJ Yeah Chuck Lasts One maclaurin. McLaren maclaurin can wrap it all up. You guys are kind of all over here. So there's no consensus on looking at anything. have no idea where they're falling in like mine projections yeah. I was just trying to mentally envision where they're going. The player I listed I up until we got to the maclaurin ride receiver range. Those were always the the player. Listen I was the guy going. I and ADP wise, but once we got to the McLaren range. Range that group receivers all going back to back to back to back so just mixing, imagine though share, and when it gets into that all preference exactly so don't put that rap coin flips for today. Cool, let's jump into the episode today. No Trivia but today we're. We kind of got some people that listen some things on twitter and facebook if we can. Can kind of make it simpler He's not everybody. Listening is a novice to parole. Fantasy football are a lot of them are just beginning out, so took some questions from them I'm GonNa Kinda. Ask questions, and we'll just have discussion around it. He has four. Yeah sounds good for sure all right so the first one here is what all the different types of leagues. Leagues out there, so we're talking dynasty keeper Redraft Best Ball those yeah that that's what you're looking for okay. What do you think the best for a beginner to get into his redraft? Let's start with redraft because I would guess that's probably the most common sore redraft. League is ultimately going to be a league where all of the players are available to draft so. Keep there's no players that are already on anybody else's team. You draw the order. However, you WanNa do that. And then every player is up for grabs. Yeah, Kinda, goes in the name. It's redrafted every single year, so all the players go back into the pool and he redrafted. Yeah, a complete start over were last year. Had has no meaning for this year. It doesn't matter if you won. You could still get the first pick like it's just a complete start over. Let's go to keeper Sulphur Keeper Leagues. There's a lot of different types of leagues, too. So the the league that I'm in. In for example, when you draft a specific player in a certain around the following season, I'm able to keep that player two rounds of head of where I drafted them before, so the advantages to this type of league is the star players that get drafted in rounds one into are back in the pool the following season, but if you hit on a star player late in the draft, you get to keep them two rounds ahead each year for the next couple of years, so there's pros to doing keeper leagues because it allows you to do. A lot of research and take is late that. That you think have a lot of potential that could pan out, or you could even be drafting them trying to find value for the following season, whereas in the redraft. You're not caring about the following season. You just want the potential upfront easiest way I would explain keeper is going into the season. You have a set number of players. You can keep on your roster from the year before whether that's three four five. You know whatever the magical number is, and then league comes up with rules like Matt. Get to keep them two rounds earlier than when you draft on the year before some. Some. Guys just keep him one pick before one people. Some people keep them same round, so there's different variations there, but easiest way there's a finite set amount of players that you keep from your roster from the year before Jake. What is Dynasty League Oh boy dynasty is you're keeping your full team and the only reason you're letting people go as if you're making room for rookies, so you're drafting twenty six to thirty players. Potentially you have backups backups backups on your bench, and you're keeping those guys hoping you hold you hit. It would mimic the closest to actual football team like A. General, manager of an actual football team right? Yep, see. You're keeping players for multiple multiple years. So you're when you're draft an older players. You're worried about retirement when you're drafting about young players, you're looking three four down the years down the road potentially so there's a lot of different factors that go into dynasty. What is best ball so best? Ball League is? Is going to be when you draft a full set of players on your team. There's no keepers involved in this, and then you don't even set your lineup throughout the year ultimately is going to insert players on your team that have the best week on a week to week basis. There's no pickups throughout the year, so you're not even going to be. Be using the waiver wire, so you draft a large team. I think it can depend on what your commissioner decides. And then that's all you do from there on the rest of the year. However they perform, they are just inserted into your line tight of their. What's DFS LEAGUES SO DF? Asks stands for daily Fantasy Sports, and this is where it's typically. Typically played on draft kings or Fan Duel and you draft a team per week so coming into Sunday I pick team. Fifty thousand dollars to spend each player has a different value on them, and you can play anywhere from ten cents to a thousand dollars per game type thing, and it's really cool because you're not stuck with the same team week-to-week you. You can basically make your team different each single week and compete against people from all over. Yeah I think the big appeal to Defense Leagues is that if you draft like? Let's say last year you took Juju in the second round or in the first round, and he got injured and goes down while your teams kind of in trouble for that year. Year if you have a couple of injuries that come into play so for this like Tyler said you just get to ultimately redraft and restart over every single week for any game that you want, plus that instant gratification of winning that week. You know you're winning money on the spot rather than playing a full sixteen week league, Tyler tell us a little. Little bit about a Guillotine League owed Guillotine League might be not the most simple for for on here, but at a quick overview of it is you draft the same as like a redraft, so you start with a fresh team this year it's all based on highest points scored amongst the league last team, so the lowest scoring team in week one is. Is completely eliminated done. Don's Oh no more season. All the players go into the waiver wire, and then the same thing week to lowest scoring team Donoso gone season over. So how does the waiver wire work is the free agent acquisition budget? That's typically what it is. Yes, and what does that mean exactly You get a value, so you get like? You get a bank account, so let's say there's two hundred dollars in there, and then you bid amongst the other league owners for how much you want that player. Let's say week one Christian. McCaffrey is on that team, so he hits the waiver wires for week. Two and you have two hundred dollars in your checking account. How much are you going to spend on them? Two hundred, can you overdraft I was just GonNa say I'm GonNA frigging overdraft account. Serious question, though can you overdraft and a guillotine? No, you can't overdraft in your checking account. Okay? That's two hundred dollar budget is set in stone. So that's all you get for the whole year. Cool think that wraps up most of the League's. Let's jump into what are the different types of scoring so I think the most common one that you're gonNA see in today's NFL in today's fantasy leagues. We actually even had a twitter. Twitter poll on this is P., P. R., which stands for point per reception. So this is exactly what it sounds like. Every time that someone catches a pass. They're getting a point. It can even be a negative cat so if they catch a pass for negative three yards. They're going to get a point for that catch. How else do you score points besides the catches, so it will work just how other leagues to so. So, a touchdown is still going to be worth six points. Rushing stats are generally going to be every ten points. You get a point or there's leagues where it's fraction so every yard you'll get point one. It just depends what style you're format is that's what you meant every ten yards? You get a point when it's nondecimal scoring. Yeah, what about receiving? So you have the full point, PR, and then you also have the half. Half Point PR so when you catch passes only worth point five, which is also getting to be more popular, because not everyone likes like what you said. Where someone catches the ball for negative yards, and they still get points, so they've gone to the half-point Ptr the huge difference between all these leagues is it truly changes the value of a lot of players, so for example like a Jarvis Landry is significantly better in A. League and a Standard League which will get to in just a second, because ultimately if he's catching one hundred passes in a year well, he's getting one hundred points for those compared to leagues where you don't get any points for those catches. Then he's only getting points off his yards and touchdowns, which aren't nearly as valuable for him. As the receptions are yeah, because in standard, league. You're not getting any points when the guy catches the ball, you're just getting the points for the yards and touchdowns and same with rushing so running back like derrick. Henry is extremely valuable in a standard scoring where we're catching the ball doesn't. Doesn't matter as much versus a full ptr when he only catches twenty passes. They kind of went into one of the questions that we had got in is so why is like Derrick Henry or Kenny Golladay more valuable in a standard league versus PTR. Yes, I think the reason why Kenny Golladay. Let's start with him. Is So important in standard leagues is because last year he led the League in touchdowns for receiving touchdowns, so he's GonNa. Get a lot of touchdowns, but he does it with as much volume as a lot of other receivers get, so he's getting those touchdowns. He's getting those points for you, but in A. League there's players that are ultimately catching twice as many passes as him. So even though he scoring a lot more, you look at Keenan, Allen, who has sixty more receptions than them? That's equivalent of ten additional touchdowns. Was Your Monster this year? The obvious one? Michael Thomas Yeah less obvious like Dj more with Teddy. Bridgewater in town I think Dj Moore's going to be a really valuable. I also see a guy like Jarvis. Landry, who's average ninety plus receptions his entire career continuing to be valuable that you can get in rounds three. Three four or five, depending on your your format coil, so with the receptions it kind of makes like what are targets, and why are targets so valuable? So targets are ultimately just how many times the ball was thrown to you regardless if you catch it or not, the more volume, the more targets that you get thought process behind it is you're going to have better stats so if you're getting the ball thrown you more often, you're more likely to have more catches more yards and more touchdowns Jake. What's like the value? Value of target well, it's exactly the magic kind of hit on. Is You want that opportunity? That's what fantasy football comes down to is. You have to be on the field. You have to get the ball thrown at your. You know handed to you to be valuable. It can vary too so if you have a quarterback like drew brees throwing the ball versus Josh Allen drew brees is way more accurate targets to me. Mean a lot more so I want the number two wide receiver on New Orleans a lot more than. than. I want the number two wetter see Rom Buffalo, because the value of those targets so sometimes quality over quantity. Yes, quantity isn't everything you do need some quality in there. What does a floor and ceiling? So a ceiling is the maximum potential. So that is saying this is the absolute best season that this guy could possibly have so when you say that a guy has a high ceiling. You're ultimately saying he has chance at having a really really good season I was gonna say it's like what your lights hanging from. That do oh, when it comes to the floor. That's the exact opposite of the ceiling, so yeah, there's no lights hanging on the floor tyler. Lamps what about carpet or rug? So when it comes to a floor in when we talk about a safe floor or not having a safe floor, a safe floor is a guy that's GonNa. Get you a good amount of points every week. No matter what so, those are generally players that catch a lot of passes, because even if they're not scoring, or if they're not having a huge day in the department or getting enough catches just to keep them relevant someone that doesn't have a safe floor. Is someone that you view as a boomer of boss so a? A Guy that could put up thirty points in a game or someone that could put up for a couple of examples that we talked about last couple episodes is Mike Evans Marquees Brown their players that have high ceilings and low floors because they're going to have huge weeks, but they're gonNA have weeks where they don't do anything either. Yeah, that all makes sense, what do we mean? We were saying like wide receiver one running back one, so there's a couple different definitions of this and I can see how this is confusing so. So the first one will touch on is the wide receiver, one or the running back one and when we say it, that way were referring to the number one player at their position so Christian McCaffrey. Last year was the running back what he finished as the number one running back in fantasy football points for the season. The other way to look at it is rby one being that they are the number one starter on a team, so Alvin Kamara is the RB. One on the saints and Latavius Murray's the RB to on. On the saints, and then the Third Way to explain, it is how they are ranked at their position, so wide receiver one is the wide receivers that are ranked one through twelve confusing. Yes, it definitely can be yeah, so if you say you think someone has wide receiver one potential. You're ultimately saying that you think they have a chance to finish between one through twelve on the season and fantasy points the reason that we use one through twelve. As because a typical fantasy league is a team leagues. Every team has to have. Have One player at that position, and you rank them one through twelve, so then a wide receiver to would be anyone that finishes between the rankings of thirteen through twenty four for the same reasoning that J, just on I think it was also like a fourth way. We're kind of thinking here is so like I have a wide receiver one on my team, wide receiver to on my team, wide receiver, three on my team, and I want each one to have different floor ceilings. If I'm picking a wide receiver to on my. My. Team I want that one to be boomer boss, but if I'm picking a wide receiver one I want high floor. Yeah, I think that's just with your fantasy draft style in general like you want a good majority of your team to have safe floors, but also want a couple players to have high ceilings. It's good to mix in a little boom and bust with a safe if your entire team is boomer boss, while you might have some weeks where you put up the most points in the league, but you're GONNA have. Have a lot of weeks where you don't do anything and you lose, so it's good to try to find a balance, so you want that safe floor, which means a lot of players that are going to get you our weekly points, and then you want to mix the handful of boomer bus players that can also contribute to winning you weeks. What is rb C. or running back by committee? And what are some things you need to know about that for fantasy football avoid avoid avoid avoid porno in all seriousness running back by. By committee is is exactly would it stands for? It's a running back committee. You typically want to avoid these because you don't know what's going to happen on a week to week basis. Prime example of this was kind of San. Francisco last year. They had been Coleman remastered. Jeff Wilson. You didn't know which one of those guys were GonNa Score. The most points in which one was to be the one that you actually want to start that week, so we typically avoid running back by committees. Yeah, another good example of running back. Back by committee was what the Ravens had last year. So you're looking at or even less as talk about this year you're looking at Mark Ingram. You're looking at JK Dobbins, Gus, Edwards Justice Hill in in addition to that. You know Lamar is going to run the ball all the time. The running back by committee here means that in any given week, any one of these players could probably will blow up, but there's also a really high probability that the other running backs do anything that week, so it's really frustrating. It's really. Really hard to navigate through and figure out which one of these guys is going to get the points on a weekly basis. Yeah, another good example for that this year is the Los Angeles Rams their coaches come out and said that they have a three headed monster at running back. So that's another committee backfield. You'd probably want to feed or not invested heavily in Jake. This is a good question for you because I know you like to do this. Because a year ear minhsiu crush, but why can you play decent quarterbacks wide? Wide receivers on bad teams in NFL like standards. I love that you called him season. That's the best compliment you have given you all offseason so I was looking for a neutral word. I'll take it from true. We complimented his facial hair. Yeah, well, this was actually about his football ability, so I'll take it the reason that you can target bad teams have good players is because they are going to have a ton of volume, so we've. We touched on a little bit earlier. The Jaguars have an awful defense they're going to. To be losing majority of the Games that they're in while they're down twenty one and they're trying to make an honest comeback in you know. Try to get back in the game. They're going to throw the ball every single play which means that you just got a boosted floor. If you're starting, mince you because he's going to throw the ball forty. Times that Game William. Feeling completes twenty like that's a high volume. You know like opportunities. They're GONNA be trying to chuck the ball down the field. Matt. Is that why you don't? Don't like Lenny. That's exactly what I don't like Leonard. I expect the Jaguars to be losing most of their games or defenses pretty bad now so when they are down, they're going to be using their pass catching back, which is Chris Thompson rather than using Leonard, Fournette, because think about it. You're not going to be running the ball if you're down by three touchdowns like you need to get back in the game right and that's why the difference between a player like Leonard Fournette versus Christian McCaffrey for the panthers. McCaffrey is not. Not Coming off the field, because he is their best pass catching back as well whereas four net Chris. Thompson is probably the better pass Catcher, probably the better pass blocker as well over four net. So that's the big difference there. You have your perfect team. Everything's going right. What do you prefer to play in the flex high floor, high ceiling, or like? What position? What are you guys have thoughts are on what to play in the flex, not super flux of course for me. It just depends on what the rest of your. Your team is looking like, but yeah. I I'm perfectly fine having a boomer, a bust in my flex assuming that I have safe floors on the rest of my team. Yeah for me in the flex, honestly boils down to what my best option is whether that's a wide receiver or running back. It's that player that gives me the highest opportunity, so if I have really high floor on my starting lineup I'm playing that player. That can get me a huge week and I look at it, too, if if I have a running. Running back on a team that I expect to completely crush another team. Will then I think he's GonNa? Get a lot more carries that week, so then I'm going to start him. But like we were just talking about. If I have a wide receiver that is on a crappier team, and I expect them to to get beat that week pretty badly, and I'm perfectly fine, thrown the wide receiver, and because I'm fully expecting that he's going to get the volume, tyler, what do you prefer in my perfect team? It would be. devante. With Michael. Thomason About realistic team. I like to play a boomer boss player, if I if I have a wide receiver and running back, who I value the same, a wide receiver over the running back just because the boom factor on a wide receiver is much more than the boom factor on a running back. Let me ask you guys this. How much does weather play into what your lineup decisions look like big time Yup. Yup I check the weather report. Sunday morning every single week of the NFL season. Because yeah, if you get a game, arts expected to be heavy snow, will generally those games lean towards a much heavier run game plan for the teams? Whether plays a huge deal especially when you get down to like kickers I, don't know if we ever talked about kickers on the show, but that's something. Something to watch out for you don't want to kick her in a snow game or super, rainy or windy game real quick. I WANNA touch on. How much do you guys look at strength of schedule number one when you're drafting and the number two when you're setting your daily lineup, just real brief breakdown I. Don't look at it much at all. Just because ultimately it changes so much. Much from year to year, so even though a certain team was ranked fifth in defense last year will, they might have lost a lot of players in free agency, or the opposite may be a team that finished twenty fifth last year, made a bunch of moves like the Bengals for example where they might be a lot better this year so i. don't let that fool me I just. Just do my own research and ultimately try to figure out who the right play is going to be for me. When I'm drafting I, don't Look at defense at all, except for maybe strength schedule besides maybe week one, but throughout the year I look at it every single week because I do tend to stream a tight end, so I'm really evaluating what tight end on the waiver wire! Wire has the easiest match up against the defense. How do you guys let it affect your flex position? Let's say you have a wide receiver that has a tougher matchup, but he's the better player and you were running back has low, but better matchup, but he's a lesser quality player. Do you guys let it affect you? I take it into effect I don't really I I want. Want my best talent on the field I. Always put out my best lineup unless there's a reason not to so you're going to start a wide receiver against like say. New England defense if it's a wide receiver that I drafted inside of the first four or five rounds. Yes, I'm not gonNA sit a Davante Adams because he's going up against. New England. Yeah, but normally your flex isn't. Isn't gonNA have Davante Adams. It's going to have somebody more like decay metcalf. Yeah, I mean. It just depends what my other options are. But if I invested early pick in decay, metcalf I'M GONNA. Play on, sure, make sense peaking kind of defenses here is why not draft a kicker or defense early because they're a dime a dozen? Yeah, because you'RE GONNA lose your league if you do. The reason why every year if you look at the kickers, they vary same with defenses, but let's just look at kicks right now. Every single season the top five. You never have the same kicker that repeats number one overall I. Don't have the stats on that, but I know it goes back very very long time since the same kicker has been number one so. So investing an early pick on a kicker, you're likely going to take the kicker. That was best previous season unless you have some insider info that I don't know about, but ultimately you're taking kicker that is at the mercy of the offense, so there's a lot of variables that go into it even like the chiefs kicker. If you look at Harrison, bucker cheese. Cheese might score five touchdowns in the game and he doesn't even get an opportunity to kick a field goal. He gets you five points. It's just there's so much variability between the position and week by week I loved a stream kickers, and there really isn't a lot of variability between the number, one kicker and the number twelve kicker, right? That's why you wait. Wait is the difference between one and twelve, and even maybe one in fifteen. One and eighteen isn't going to be that much so you just you wait on kicker and you just take what's left. Yeah, over the course of the year, the difference between the number one in the number twelve is gonNA. Come out to about three points a week. What about defenses? Defenses, the Patriots won people fantasy championships last year, and I picked up waivers. That was a crazy anomaly. That's probably not very likely to happen. Ever again. Be just based off of the quality teams. They happen to play that first eight games, versus the you know they were not that good the second half of the season, but yeah same thing streamer defenses don't. Don't invest early because you don't know what can happen one injury just to find Gilmore in that Patriots. Defense goes from one to possibly thirty by get. One player can make a huge difference. That's a big difference. I said big difference probably not that drastic, but still one to twenty is a big number and fantasy. It's last question. We have for this episode. Episode of Let's keep it simple. Keep it simple kind of similar on the same about drafting early. Why don't we tend to draft a quarterback early a lot of the same reasons that we just talked about for kickers year it changes if you look at the last two seasons in a row I'll use my example. I drafted Patrick Mahomes in the twelfth round. Round two years ago and he was the MVP last year. I got Lamar Jackson the eleventh round in. He was the MVP wide receivers. Change Lot. It's also a super super deep position, so yeah, you're. You're with the exception of Mahomes and the Lamar Jackson who have established themselves as the elite tier as long as they stay healthy the difference between quarterback three. Eighteen isn't even going to be a huge differential. You're passing on the opportunity to lock up running back in the second round or that star wide receiver in the second round in exchange for me, it's the the likelihood of you hitting on a mahomes or Lamar Jackson in the Eleventh Twelfth Round, getting that superstar just so slim, and there's not a lot of. Between the one in Quebec one in the quarterback twelve that I'm just GonNa, take someone in the middle like I'm just GonNa let everyone else draft quarterbacks. I'M GONNA. Take the last end. Matt Ryan, the last one in my tear. You know that I have they're just because the likelihood of me hitting that superstar is so slim that I'm just gonNA. Hit that safe option in the middle. So that's why I weighed on quarterback. Let's talk about tears since you brought. BROUGHT THAT UP I. Know We've talked about that briefly on an episode earlier. But what is the importance of tears? Jake tears has everything to me when I'm drafting. Especially in a redraft league as I like to ranked players in tears in grouping so when I have the top four players left on my draft I. Know I don't have to reach for a specific player I can wait. A couple might be all the way to full round and still get the. Player of the same quality that I thought play might be so I tear my players because I volume differently than what ADP says. Yeah, so let's say that you're stuck between a running back and a tight end in. You're going back and forth well, if you have tears setup, and you look down and see okay. I only have this one running back left in this tier, and then there's a significant drop off, but I have four tight ends at I rank all pretty similar I might as well take this. This running back right now and then I can get one of these four tight ends on the way in the next round. See I used to utilize tears I. do sometimes, but I just tend to rank all of my own players ADP based off my projections and take the best available, because I didn't have no problem waiting on tight end quarterback, that kind of stuff, so I usually end up with like five running backs, five wide receivers, and then the roused. Yeah, I do tears just how I don't. Don't run into drafting eight wide receivers and only having two running backs on my roster. 'cause I've done that before. So I I do the tears that way accuse keeps myself accountable. Another question that I saw come into us was in regards to stacking which refers to taking a quarterback and wide receiver on the same team. Let me know what your thoughts are about that awesome for like DFS for draft King's type stuff. I don't really like to do it for redraft for normal leagues because what happens if. If they face a stellar defense. If they have a bad game, they play in forty mile. An hour winds things like that I mean it's very boomer. Busty for me. Yeah I. Feel the same way with stacks. It can be great like the Julio. Matt Ryan Stack has been awesome for a years like I don't want to discount that by any means, but I stay away from stacks, typically because there are going to be games where the Falcons are going to score seven points, and then you just lowered. By committing so much that one offense, you lowered your potential on that week, so it's it's tough for me. It definitely depends what the stack is like. Last year, I had mahomes Tyreek Hill, and I thought it was going to be the greatest thing of all time, but homes got hurt throughout the season. tyreek hurt throughout the season, so I really had all my eggs in one basket, and it didn't pan out, but if you go back to two. Two years ago when mahomes through fifty touchdowns tyree Kil led the League in touchdowns in Tyreek Hill led the league in fantasy football points. Then then it's GonNa work out, so there's it's definitely boomer boss. There is some risk with it, but for me I like doing the stacks of a Matt. Ryan in a Calvin Ridley for example, so I'm not investing my top early picks in it, but I still have my star players. I drafted earlier and then. Then I have a potential stack that if it hits, you're you're likely GonNa win that week? The one stack that I've been noticing I've been having more and more shares of is to Shawn, Watson and Brandin cooks. That's the stack that I've been having a lot of. You're going to lose a lot of leagues this year with that Brandin cooks will give you about five games and four concussions, and Watson is not GonNa be what he was with De'andre. de'andre. He's going to be not a chance. No, that's fine. If you guys think that, but it's a very boom or bust play, and at the quarterback position I can just pick up another one on waivers I. Don't think you even believe that I do because Brandin. Cooks up until last year was no worse than wide receiver fifteen finish. Do you WanNa? Know why you so bad last year because he got a concussion no because they traded for him. Don't stay away then I'll be fine this here all right. That's GonNa wrap up the Keep it simple episode here. I hope everybody listening found some value in some of the things. If you have future questions. Maybe we'll do this again. shoot us a tweet at F F ot, podcast or an email, F. F., o., T. podcast gmail.com and what kind of compile another list questions from our listeners. Yeah, thanks for listening I hope. Hope you guys all found some value out of that. Even the more tenured and savvy fantasy players, a couple of good takeaways there, but if you're new, especially, a lot of good information absolutely could take away is of course, makes you subscribe on Apple, Google and spotify podcasts and don't forget. We're on facebook as well at the fantasy football overtime podcast, but that's going to wrap up today's episode. All right I gotta go countless bottlecaps. Let me know ice.

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Jimmy Bell Interview - December 19th 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

12:50 min | 4 months ago

Jimmy Bell Interview - December 19th 2020

"He's so good and so talented that he is a perfect three for three and a grade one winner as the two year old and today he looks to get back on track and proved he is still the real deal in the tenacious stakes at the fairgrounds. And that would be welcome news to jimmy bell. Who is the president of godolphin's. Us operations he is with me now here on the equine form jimmy. Good morning my friend always great to catch up. good morning. You enjoyed here that race call. It feels like we're we're back in action. You're back in action in a big way today. You know i went through earlier in the show. And i just kind of recap that very quickly there but this has been such an up and down career for max 'field and i can imagine this has to be one of the more frustrating scenarios that you've ever been involved with well frustrating. Yes but on the other hand It there's a sense of confidence because not too often nor around horse. it obviously shows that talented maximums. Had you know yourself breaking your first time out going right from there into a great one race And obviously another time out coming back and off the off the bench and in the runner race like that met win. So i mean he's in three races shown so much that Even though it's been a long time between races know which you always hope for. I don't think one thing. We don't question his talent and For that reason we're really optimistic and excited the same back in action and and more importantly as you earlier alluded The patients that everybody has shown this especially brendan and bringing him back and Hopefully we're we're looking for you know very productive for your season with a full body of work did can maybe show The talents of this this time and time again. So very very you know. We're very excited to be back in here. We are ready ready ready to run in the afternoon. You know jimmy. I come at this from the outside looking in. But you are obviously intimately involved with every move. That takes place with max field and i talked about earlier in the program. I talked about that training. Job that brenda did getting him. Back to the races after being scrapped from the breeders cup in two thousand nineteen the breeders cup juvenile. Getting him back for the matt win but not just back to the races getting him back and ready to fire his best shot after all that time. Off and overcoming that that initial injury. How good of a training job was that by brennan. Well i think i think he I think you hit on the head. I think his his whole card is tremendous patience. I think he reads his horses very well. He's the consummate horseman himself. So you know he. He's been both on their backs. And on the ground. And i think he's got an extra sense of of Communicating with horses. That he himself know get on him and he's got that feeling nose and He he really lets the horse sort of talk to him and tell him win and wear and We're on the phone just the other day and he said you know we're going to have to run. He's figured it out he's ready We know they're still probably few cobwebs a little bit rust on wheel but that was the case. Obviously in the win as well and You know it just takes. Probably a very very counted individual to be able to Not only physically be ready to run but mentally be ready to run and that's something we probably don't talk about all the time. It's the mental aspect as well and One of the one of mexico's greatest at tributes is mental toughness and just how he is so professional and how he goes about his daily routine. And i think it makes a little easier for brennan to read him because he's very genuine. He tells you right where he is and You know you you you've got to be able to be picking up on all those signs and and brennan does a phenomenal job at that. Take me through the past seven months. Since that win in the matt win at churchill jimmy what of these past seven months been like from ashville. Well again you know the good news is that neither neither one of the neither one of the timeouts were really you know truly significant. We just we did the right thing by the horse gave him ample time to completely He'll come back get back into his own rhythm. And i think that You know this this game is built on hope and and you know that if you just get the opportunity to get him back you'll take care of the rest of certainly that's are feeling and listen. Today's no easy. It's never an easy spot coming back You know you're in there with with a tough for us from Steve esme you gotta hours respect that. Then there's always the hard knocking older horses ourselves. Got a tougher locally owned So this is a great spot to come back in. But it's not easy spot but there's also no easy spots when you're out of conditions so you can't just exactly dip your toe in the shallow when you gotta jump in and see where you're at and you know we. This is the beginning this. Is you know this is. This is just what it is. This is hopefully beginning of an important Year racing for him. You were kind enough. Jimmy by the way talking with jimmy bell the president of godolphin's. Us operations you were kind enough to join me on this show. The morning of the matt win on may twenty third and one thing that you spoke about was his pedigree and he is a son of street. Sense out of a bernardini maher now. I know that that's a pedigree this near and dear to darley godolphin's heart but that pedigree bernardini has come an outstanding broodmare sire. What he's accomplished at his age is you know really puts him at the top of the chart of a broodmare hours. You know a long time to come. And i mean it's just amazing. You speak casually reading steak entries or the pp's on horse a much as another daughter bernardini. That's another daughter bernardini and You know what. What he's accomplished is is really a phenomenal. And you know how great it is to have a horse. It's going to pass them on. We always talk about sour sons of sizes hours in the mail on but To be able to carry on and make no mistake. His impact is brute mercer. We'll be significant for really really generations to come in and foundation for a lot of operations. Have those young bernardini mayors jimmy. The news came out this past week by the way. Good luck with max 'field later today. I'll shift gears on us here. The news came out earlier this week. That you were elected once again as president of the thoroughbred after care alliance and that's an organization that i know from day one has been near and dear to your heart Talk about the importance of after karen. This sports i. I don't know sometimes. I think that might get overlooked a little bit when we start talking about all the racing so tell me about the importance of aftercare. Well you know it. That's exactly you hit it right on the head you know initially for i think we started in two thousand and twelve Initially it was about just awareness. Awareness awareness making people aware of the after racing. And what goes on or just stop that day and so initially that the just trying to make people aware and then we moved into educating people and now under you know understanding more after you become aware more the educational process and today you know some eight years into it. It's it's now talking about in terms of the obligation. You know this is. This is not this is this is part of owning a horse. This part of Having the blacksmith combat. I mean these these are all taking care of. The horse is an obligation as well so this whole thing has been awareness education obligation. And it's it's not an easy thing. You keep drilling on. But i think it's become a part of sort of a plank in the platform of our industry that i think the industry everyone involved in industry collectively understands and recognizes. How you know. This is a major component of owning a horse in in. What the industry's doing and have made tremendous you a tremendous move forward in that regard. I mean if you look at the day we now have i think. Eighty one accredited organizations over a hundred and seventy facilities We've we've generated over twenty million dollars and probably assisted. I think that eleven thousand thoroughbreds so yes. Very very significant and You know. I think that one of the great things about the third right after caroline's is is that It's it's sort of gotten the good housekeeping seal when you're raising that kind of money people really want to know where it's going what is doing. And i've jokingly said many times that i'm not sure how well we do when they come to inspect and accredit your operation to be able to become a credit by the ta. I mean there's a education component. There's go through facilities people literally go to these places and look at them. Talk to them about their adoption policies You know they have to be an operations three or four years before you can even apply to this thing so we've got the confidence of everybody knowing that this money is going where it needs to be which is always a question mark when you're when you're making these kind of contributions but you know the ta has come a tremendous long way but gee whiz we got you know this is. This is a big big problem in. It's something that we can't just sorta take lightly but it's you gotta you gotta keep gotta keep out for everybody's perspective. What are some of the things moving forward jimmy that you would like to see accomplished by the t. a. And on the after care front. In general well i think funding you know funding has to be and we've got we've got to continue to find. Waste be sustainable. I mean we get we get some great spikes and some great Ha moments were gosh. That was great. Somebody stepped up or somebody this but you know this is an industry obligation. Initially when we set this thing up. We tried to make as many small touch points as possible. You know at the sales at the racetrack here. There and yonder just a little bit but It it's difficult. It takes a lot of You know a lot of bookkeeping a lot of communication coordination. And you know one thing that i'm excited about is a look at the board of directors and the people that are involved from you know from officials in racing offense to sales companies to people in the jockey club to everybody's got some areas of expertise and skill sets that have made this you know very very Significant operation in the dance. Your question. you know we've just got we've got to find that magic way to get this thing sustainably-funded it's it's it's It's very hard going back. Every time and trying to reinvent the wheel we can. Just get some overall by into where people understand. It's one for all all for one That's rush sustainability. Comes from and it's all about know. Continue to to fund this. It's you can tell with one hundred seventy facilities and i think this year. We we handed awarded or granted over three million dollars. That's a lot to do every year in. You know it doesn't stop you've got every year so it's not like it's one time off and we got that done. Continue and now get to work alongside my man. Jeff bloom to absolutely and you know again. that's glad you brought that up. I mean john phillips with the past president everybody's had a real skill set that it's been at the helm of thing and brought a unique perspective of what they can do. Well you know. Get jack wolf. Initially you know did a fantastic job. It was not easy to get off the ground. And then i came in for a brief stint and followed up with john phillips back again as i said you you can step aside. You can step away and now jeff is gonna going to take over next year after after my my year and you know again. There's a guy that's very committed. He understands that he's been on the ground East compassionate about it and and he's got spheres of influence that others of us don't and You know again. Everybody brings a little something to the table and and very excited jeff onside and he's been a big supporter of all the way through. Well you can go to thoroughbred after care dot org if you wanna learn more about the thoroughbred after care alliance again. Jimmy bell with the president of godolphin's us operations and the thoroughbred after caroline's jimmy. You would be hard pressed to find somebody. That's better ambassador for our sport than you. My friend and i've known you long time in greatly. Appreciate all your efforts and everything you do for the sport and greatly appreciate you taking the time this morning. Happy holidays my friend same to you and what a great job you do kind of getting a good message out this other and listen. It's it's It's an honor to be a part of this and whatever little things we can do hopefully make a little difference but Just pleased and privileged to be a part of it. Yeah thanks for the time jimmy. Merry christmas fame you enjoy. thanks again. appreciate me anaheim.

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First Mock Draft of 2020 Episode 002

Fantasy Football Overtime

46:41 min | 1 year ago

First Mock Draft of 2020 Episode 002

"Welcome to the fantasy football overtime. Podcast I'm your host Jake with me as always is Matt Win Tyler Hardback. What's happening you guys on today's episode? We're going to go over the results of our mock draft also touch on some news notes from around the NFL. Tyler how you doing. I'm doing really good. Thanks for asking beautiful day in Minnesota and just enjoying the weather ready to record some audio Matt. How're you doing? I'm doing well thank you so I'm excited to jump into our mock draft. I had a good time going through all the draft and the results and I'm looking forward to sharing it with our listeners. Seeing what you guys think about the teams that we came up with. Yeah we'll give you that here in just a minute but before we do. I WanNa ask you guys. Here's a question for you. What's your new favorite activity to do during the Kobe pandemic? Well I don't know if I'd say it's my favorite activity but one that I'm allowed to do is walk my dog so I think my dog would say it's his favorite activity. Thanks for asking Jake. I like to cook prior to be in work from home. Kinda quarantined but now I've really started the love to cook. Chicken Wings are definitely my food of choice to cook. Mine's a lot different than you guys. I live in an apartment and one thing. I've noticed that a lot of a lot of people walk around our apartment. You know. Try to get out and get some exercise. I've noticed more and more of them have been carrying drinks with them and they've been drinking while they're going on walks. I just like to watch. As people get progressively more drunk as they're making laps around our buildings that's awesome all right. Let's jump into some on news from around the League so I would like to start with a fun fact on everybody's favorite Jameis Winston Jameis. Winston is the first quarterback to lead the league in passing yards in the very next season beyond a different team. And not only is he on a different team but he also is a backup so pretty crazy stat there. How does that happen you guys? I don't know I don't does stealing crab legs or anything had to go along with that. That or thirty interceptions. I guess he got Lisa so he can actually read license plates on the back of the cars he was saying. So hopefully L. cuts down on the interceptions. Yeah I didn't see what they ended up paying him New Orleans for that one year but either way it's kind of their style. They had teddy bridgewater there last year. I think that's a good safe backup for them to have for sure. Thanks for bringing famous. Jamison up here. It kind of makes me think of like a possible conspiracy theory so Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay Jameis. Winston went to New Orleans. Teddy Bridgewater went to Carolina. So Cam Newton. Where where does that put him? I think I see where this so. He thinks that Matt Ryan should watch his back. Well that's what I got from that. Yeah it's not really. We're always going but that wasn't a effort. Wait are you saying he's GonNa go. You're saying going to New England complete the cycle. I'm not saying but I'm saying. Is that where you're going to that? Yeah that's where I was going with them. They have to. I was actually GonNa bring that up later. I mean there's no chance at New England goes into the season with Jarrett Stidham as quarterback. Do either of you think that's even possible. It's difficult to read Bella check. I mean that's I think Brian. Hoyer has just to get a chance of starting the season as their quarterback Cam Newton does. I think bill's dogs ultimately going to be one that gets to make that call. Does he like the smell of Cam? I guess we'll find out you got any other news and notes meant. I do have one more that I jotted down per shot. Burri Lind cornerback for the Kansas City. Chiefs he was arrested Tuesday afternoon in South Carolina. Bree Linda facing multiple charges including resisting arrest having alcohol in a motor vehicle with the seal broken marijuana possession in driving without a license in what I just. Don't quite understand is didn't Chris Carter. Teach us about all guy gotTA have a Fall Guy. That's like the whole kit and caboodle. There you know for a guy. That's already facing a four-game suspension. You'd think that he'd be thinking a little bit more about his future. But I guess not but actually that kind of brings me to my next question here for you. Guys actually Percy. Harbin came out and said that he's looking for a comeback possibly the NFL. So I got to. I want you guys do a rate it on a scale of one to ten that Percy Harbin plays in the NFL this season by like week one or just at any point in the season one to ten scale. Ten being that. You absolutely think you'll play. I'm going to go with a two. I don't think it's happening. I've seen the footage of him working out. He looks like he's an amazing shape now. I'm not checking the dude out. He's just in good shape for sounds like it. I will lean a little bit higher than that and say now five is to neutral. I'll go six six okay. You think there's a better chance. I'm more likely than not that we see Percy Harvard in the NFL in two thousand twenty. Yes because of the fact that this team this was what one of the best wide receiver class drafts correct correct but a team that really needed a wide. Receiver failed the draft a wide receiver in the first couple rounds correct. I think I know where you're going with this or are you talking about the Green Bay packers. Something tells me Percy. Harbin will be playing with the Green Bay packers this year. Okay okay. We'll hear this actually leads into a little bit more here. Okay what it's same scale Josh Gordon do you think he plays this year? They got rid of the marijuana testing. So it's very possible that we see him again. I don't see him coming back again. So your numbers. One one on that one Josh Gordon. Chance I'll say three three Matt I say I don't care if it's neutral say five it could go either way okay kissing. Your sister doesn't really count all right. I got one more player for you guys. I'm sure you can guess where this is going. Antonio Brown same scale what do you think no at Tyler? Would you go first Antonio Brown? I'm not sure if anybody wants the locker room shenanigans just the just Antonio Brown stuff yeah. I will say similar Gordon. I'll say three. I'm saying three as well. I don't he's obviously got the talent. He still in great shape and he could help Any football team really. But he's too much of a distraction. I don't see any team bringing them on at this point. So you're saying there's a chance again I guess too all right well that segues over to our our segment here for today in that is going to the results of our mock draft our very first mock draft of the year. How did that feel guys? It felt good. It's it's never too early to do a mock but yet it does feel super early because it's going to change a lot. Yeah and the way that we did it to was. We just picked out of a hat for where. We're going to draft Actually like how it landed on. We're all KIND OF SPLIT UP. So Jake ended up with the second pick. I landed with number five and tyler ended up with number eight. Yeah and with this mock draft most of the people. I was actually surprised. Stayed through the entire thing we ran it on ESPN. It was on twelfth person. Mock draft and I was really impressed with how many people stuck around too many of the late around so it did have some pretty accurate ratings. Yeah well they must have known that they were mocking with the overtime podcast crew. Yeah they had to have known Yup. So there was a kicker defense in this one here as quarterback running back to wide receiver and a flex and tight end and then six bench spots. Correct yell pretty deep all right. So let's dive into the results here. So pick one Christian. Mccaffrey NO SURPRISE THERE. Muslim. Talk with pick to. I wouldn't Saquon Barkley. Some people might debate Michael Thomas Uniform but with a running back. That's also going to get you one hundred targets. I think that that was the safe way to go. Michael Thomas went three tyreek Hill. What four bit of a surprise there did you guys feel the same way? Yes that was definitely surprise Tyreek Hill is obviously a first-round player in most drafts. I think everybody will agree with that. But going forth overalls definitely too early so when it got to me at number five. I was not expecting to have the decision between Elliott and cook. I thought one of those two would be and I would just take whichever one fell to me so I ended up going with the safer pick. You can't win your draft in the first round but you can lose it. I went with Zeke Elliot. I'm Minnesota and I loved Alvin Cook but being from Minnesota. I have seen a lot of injuries. That Devon Cook has faced. He missed a total of twenty games. In this first three seasons he started twenty. Eight of forty eight games so in total. He's missed forty two percent of the games that he could have played in since coming into the NFL. So that's why we went with the safer pick and Ezekiel Elliott. The guy's a workhorse. Three hundred carries last year. Fifty four receptions on seventy-one targets fourteen total touchdowns. He's much safer about to stay on the field. And that's ultimately what my hand towards GONNA seek. Gotcha okay good. After that Delvin Cook went six Alvin Kamara seven and holler back. You were on the clock at eight. Yeah on the clock at eat. Typically I really like to draft a running back in the first round. My trend always goes to Hopkins is still on the board my wide receiver to but also Derrick Henry. My why are running back six? So I decided to pull the trigger on Derrick Henry coming off a great year in two thousand nine thousand nine hundred led the League and carries over three hundred carries had fifteen hundred rushing yards and tied league in rushing touchdowns. What kind of calls me pause in drafting Henry though is just negotiating. That LONG-TERM DEAL. Is he going to hold out? Causes some concern there what he is the key to the Tennessee offense for twenty twenty super durable and just doesn't catch a lot of balls so a lot of people will have them right at a little bit lower or a PR league versus standard? Really feel he's GonNa maintain where he was last year. Yeah Henry Stop. You can't go wrong at eight. That's right about where he's going to go. Yeah I have a little more than you guys. I think because it has a full point PR. I won't take them necessarily but I don't think it's a bad pick I just Li- like receivers in this instance. But like I said he's a stud going through the restaurant. One Davante Adams to Andrew Hawkins. Julio Jones and Aaron Jones around that out we talk about Aaron Jones here like him being picked there no too early. He is going to probably regress in touchdowns in he had eighteen of them last year. just on the ground. Yeah I think he definitely is GonNa regress in touchdowns on let's not forget that the packers just drafted Aj Dylan in the second round. A lot of people think that's ultimately more long-term but also wouldn't be surprised if it's something that we ended up seeing where he cuts into his workload even near the goal line he's He's a big back so wouldn't be too surprised if Aaron Jones loses a little bit of value this year. Yeah I met with Flora's Komo and a couple of times and said that he wants a three headed monster at running back home. Don't understand it when they do have Aaron Jones but I'm not an NFL coach right right. Yeah I I have a pretty good possibility of finishing outside rb ten. And that's a that's a risky pick taken at twelve. I can see it agreed and This the team with twelve also took another risky picket thirteen often. You guys surprised by that one. I actually like that pick. He's a stud and they lost. Melvin Gordon this year. So that's going to be huge for Austin value. Look at WHO. They're going to bring in quarterback to now that Philip rivers has gone. Either going to be your boy tyrod. Taylor or Justin Herbert. Either one's going to need an outlet so I actually see clear. Maybe it's a little early on. There's some good talent still on the board that we're going to get to shortly but I think Austin is a very justifiable pick. They're awesome in. The second round is not a horrible pick. I think early second round. It is yeah I agree. I just think it was a little bit early. I like him in the second but with the first pick in the second round I would have gone different route if it was my pick but it wasn't so it's not my decision for moving on from pick thirteen. We had Chris. Godwin Joe. Mix in Mike Evans and Holler back. You're on your pick. Yeah round to pick number five through my thought process here. I Have Travis Kelsey tight end. I don't like taking a second round. I don't really care how good they are a lot of times. I end up streaming tight end. Ken Take Nick. Chubbier or DJ. More still on the board. I actually end up picking my rb nine for this year. Probably going to surprise a lot of people in Kenyan drake. This guy one fantasy owners. They're championships last year. After week. Nine he finished rb. Four averaged eighty yards for the cardinals on the ground with twenty eight receptions. David Johnson's gone the cardinals. Offense is GONNA be really interesting this year with the addition of Hopkins. I really like Where most of that offense is actually on this year. Yeah actually a hundred percent agree. I have Kenyan drake as a top ten running back this year as well so I was actually very disappointed that you picked him. I was hoping he would fall to meet all right. Let's move on after drake when Travis Kelsey and then Nick Chubb next is mapped on the clock. Yes so I wanted Nick Chubb. He went off the board one. Pick before army. There's too much uncertainty with Leonard Fournette between his current status with the team. I don't know if you guys saw but he threw shade at Gardner Mentally. They didn't like it. He's got an injury history also. Consider George kittle cited that I can wait on a tight end and then I ultimately ended up passing Ken Golladay. He's great and Standard Leagues. But he takes a slight dip for me. Npr. So I went with Josh Jacobs. Running back is king in fantasy. I wanted the two best ones I get on. So I'm happy with Ezekiel Elliott and route one and Josh Jacobson Round two year. They have a great offense on. They ranked six offensive efficiency last year. They added my boy Henry. Rugs this year. So I'm confident. That Josh Shakeups is going to take a step in year two. Yeah I think that's a really solid. Pick their Dr Jacobs should have another great year after that. Josh Jacobs pick went Leonard. Fournette and George kittle and that leaves Jake on the clock yes so I was really hoping for running back here. Can YOU DRAKE NICK? Josh Jacobs Leonard for net was kind of in that bracket plan with some smart Yeah not really wanting for net but I would have accepted it at that point and then they all went it left me Kinda Kennedy. Dj More on board. I really didn't want to go receiver. I wanted to go running back and I ended up going Lamar Jackson. This was an interesting pick. I gotTa admit surprise when I saw this especially out of you. You normally normally wait on quarterback so what I'm curious about. Like does does the fact that he are are you chasing last year stats? Are you not worried about the madden curse like where are we at with this? I am fully anticipating him getting injured. But I'm hoping hoping hoping that it is more the mahomes wrote or he misses maybe a game or two and not. The Michael Vick wrote where he misses an entire season. Obviously it's a it's a risky pick. I like obviously. He's a stud. He was the leading score and fantasy last year. He has potential to do it again. But do there's something to be said about that man curse I avoid yeah. I'm not too worried about it. He's my qb one. You'll be fine. He's GonNa have a good year. He's obviously he's obviously the top quarterback. I think we all agree on that. Just comes down to. Is he worth a second round? Pick and sacrificing a running back for that star receivers all comes down to. Yeah Yup it. It came down to the best player on the board. I didn't like a lot of the picks that were GonNA follow. I didn't like a lot of the players and I said you know what I'm not going to have. Lamar probably any team this year. I want to draft them and see what a team looks like with him. Because you're not gonNA get after this point so I said Yeah. Let's roll the dice and see what happens. I like that it's fair. Coming off next on the board. Was Kenny Golladay. The last pick of the second round third around we start off with Dj. More and then Jake's back on so this kind of jump right back into the last point. I was making houses not in love with many of the players that were there. I wanted to go running back again so I saw the best running back head. Pbr floor which was mild sanders. So that was the pick here you know. I think that Boston Scott is not the same backup that Jordan Howard was. I don't see him eating into Mile Sanders workload too much this year so happy to take Mile Sanders in the situation Yeah Mile Sanders is a good pick right there Jordan hours out of town. He's going to be the guy this year at least GonNa have a good offense so I don't blame you for that one coming out next was Allen Robinson and then Adam feeling and then Matt's on the clock so similar to Jake in this situation I was not in love with any of the players that were there and I should clarify because I really really liked Clyde Edwards Lehrer as I spoke to last episode but I already have two good running back so I decided to go a different option looking at the wide. Receivers There wasn't really anything there that stood out. My options are Sutton Hilton. Juju Amari Cooper. I didn't want to cowboys and I really don't have any of them too. Far Ahead of players like a J Brown scary Terry Decay Metcalf. Now it's pretty confident that I'd be able to get two of them in later rounds so I went with my boy Tyler called me. Achieve SPAM boy last biggest. Chief's Fan boy. I need a fan boiler. Are you guys done? I went with Patrick Mahomes in the third round. I generally do not take a quarterback this early but that was my reasoning as to why I did. He's the best player on the board By far so I got my quarterback. I got two running backs and I'm still confident that I'm going to be able to get those receivers at I liked coming up do you or do you not have a patrick. Mahomes Jersey in your closet right now I have to. Did you not traveling into Kansas City just to see your boy Patrick Mahomes? I did and they played the Vikings and he was hurt. Got Hurt the week before so he ended up playing anyways. Nba All right. Let's move on so after mahomes when Kenyan ill and Cortlandt Sutton in tyler on the clock on the clock here Matt laid also got options are random my head. Amari Cooper great option here Zach. Ertz is here still a little bit early for me to play a tight end. I end up getting some redemption for myself here after last episode. I pick you layer. Wow Damian Williams. Yeah Hey I re looked at some statistics and research on what their offense has looking like and the share is definitely GonNa be c. e. h. favor really like him. It's almost like somebody tried to tell you that last week. I think people tried to that last week and hey I'm not disagreeing with that you know. I think he hasn't really opportunity to finish in the top twelve for sure like that would be a lot there. Yeah that's it's a great pick. In to be completely honest I forgot about him because the ADP has not updated for the rookie so he was a little bit further down on the list than I thought he would be. So I completely forgot about him as I would have picked him over Mile Sanders and probably over Lamar Jackson too and without a lot of information out there right now early in the season. I feel. This is about where he should be drafted as we get closer. Adp's going to change and he's going to shoot up there too early second round late first round. I would imagine. Yeah there's going to be. People ended up taking him around one. Absolutely all right so moving on from Clyde Edwards Layer t y Hilton Zach urged Juju and Gurley to finish out round three with David Johnson. Darren Waller with the second pick in the round four. I thought that was a bit of a reach to know your thoughts on that one. I think there's a lot of targets in Oakland while they're definitely gets his share. But what about your boy Henry rugs he might be the second most targeted whilst they have. I don't know we said it earlier. There the six most efficient football team when it comes to offense last year like they. There's a lot of fantasy value to be had in that offense and I think waller gets his. It might be a little early but I really don't think it's a bad pick. No I like his situation. I just thought it was a little bit early in the fourth after that Amari Cooper Mark Andrews and then Tyler you're up with your next pick round four pick five. Tauran here between two guys. Aj Brown right around wide receiver. Fifteen this early and then od be have him wide receiver rally around eleven right now and like. I honestly think this is criminal for back home to drop this far. A lot of people are losing faith way too quickly. Cleveland wasn't absolute dumpster fire last year last year. The last twenty years. Okay okay. Fair point but Beckham is one of the most talented wide receivers in the league. Last year had a brand new quarterback brand new team brand new home almond battled injury. He's a really strong candidate for a comeback year this year but he is battled injury almost every year of his career. He has a new offensive coordinator yen and still has baker threatened him the ball. Yeah you still place to the browns for sure. My biggest thing is that I'm hoping for is the League doesn't slap them with some silly conduct. Detrimental suspension for throwing those wads of cash at those college players. I forgot about the league. Didn't did you guys ever think you'd be at the point where you'd say. Odell Beckham was going in the fifth round of a full point. Ppo draft fourth round. This forthright fourth-round no like he is one of the most talented wide receivers. If I could get him every league in the fourth I would eat that up all day. Long Yeah Fourth-round. You have to take them. That's actually why I wanted to coming up. We'll get to that. And then after Odell went tyler. Lockett Robert Woods and then Matt's so like I said I really wanted Odell I made fun of him because he is in Cleveland. But I wanted Odell. He'd got picked before me to tyler so I was stoked to land. Aj Brown Tyler said that that was who he was also looking at. I think he also criminal that he is still here. Aj Brown over the last six games. The season ended up with six hundred seventy yards and six touchdowns absolutely insane stats. He's a player that got better. As the year went on built a good chemistry with Ryan Tannehill. They have him locked up again. So I see that chemistry continuing. I think big things are in store for. Aj Brown do you think is efficiency can hold up because he was having those huge games on like three catches on like four targets again. It was just unbelievable efficiency. Yeah I don't know if there's efficiency is going to keep up or not but I think his targets are going to so. I think that the increase in target share will possibly offset the efficiency. Yeah I think that's a really fair point. He's GonNa be ten hell's Goto. Yeah we'll we'll see then after. Aj Brown next off. The Board was Cooper Cup and Lynn. Bell I was on the clock next. I took Kelvin. Ridley hoping to have Cooper Cup fall. He ended up not so I took my next best wide receiver on the Board Kevin Ridley great situation in Atlanta they are always trailing they're always going to throw the ball so there's a high floor and a high ceiling for Calvin really. Yeah I think with Hooper being out of there that opens up some targets forum right and move on the end of the fourth was Terry maclaurin beginning around five Chris Carson and then I was on the clock again also decided to go wide receiver. Here I only had one at this point so I ended up taking. Dj Shark out of Jacksonville with Garner. Michio becoming the guy there you know. They didn't draft any quarterbacks. I think that That was a big boost for shark as well because him admits she really had a connection. It seemed like at time so expecting big things outta charge this year as well. Yeah I'm pretty indifferent on shark. I don't know if Menchu is the guy we will have to find out and see. You have to believe in men shoe mania. How can you starts shorts the mustache all of it? I like. I like the pick especially where we're at needing a wide receiver but I would not be surprised if he busts either so I guess time will tell on that one? I think he's a super low floor with a higher ceiling. He's GonNa get you to or twenty guys. Who else is gonNA throw the ball to? It's not gonNA viscous he's GonNa get his too but everything is going to be going. The opposite teams. James has proved that you can throw the ball and still be fantasy relevant after charge. It went to Melvin Gordon. Devon Single Terry and Matt was next on the clock so I went with decay metcalf and this is going back to what I was saying earlier and Y Took Patrick. Mahomes in the third. I was very confident that I was still going to get two of the wide receivers that I valued Similar to wear the others were earlier in the draft. Decay McAfee at nine hundred yards seven touchdowns in his rookie season. Obviously a nice bonus when you can draft a wide receiver. That's an good offense and has a good quarterback in Seattle and Wilson fit both those also to what I was saying about. Aj Brown finishing the season. Hot IN SEATTLE TO PLAYOFF Games. He posted two hundred twenty yards and a touchdown so I like getting players that were peaking at the end of the season that seemed to be in sync with that offense. I was torn between Stefan digs and metcalf but I went with the better quarterback Obviously I am not a huge fan of Josh Allen so I went with decay metcalf and I'm actually. I really really like that pick. Yeah I was. I was surprised that you took him over. Digs as well. I was going to ask you about that Also in that range. Jarvis Landry so I was going to ask if you was ever a consideration. I'm not bitter at all about Stefan digs getting traded from origins. None of us also say Jarvis Landry. Yeah Jarvis Landry. See my notes about Odell. Brown's dumpster fire. I mean he's a monster he was last year too. He had better numbers than Odell. Does that do anything for you or are you just think that was kind of a fluke? Look I went with decay metcalf. I'm very confident that pick all right just asking if it was any consideration. No not really I can tell after Catherine James Connor Rahim Oester in Tyler on all right so in the fifth round pick number eight. I was trying to decide between two different players. Jonathan Taylor but I already have a rookie running back so I decided to take devante Parker. He's on my borderline of wide receiver. Twenty last season for twenty nine thousand nine. He had his first thousand yard season after a bunch of disappointing years. He finished wide receiver. Eleven with over twelve hundred yards and I was just first year playing all sixteen games and I expect the same this year. Are you concerned at all about fits magic running out? It's magic strong feeling about Fits magic probably only play in the first four to six games? Yeah that's exactly what I was going to say. It's going to be the to a show. They drafted him for a reason. I think it's a good pick. You also have Preston Williams who you have to worry about but overall I think just a better offense in general is going to help so if he can stay healthy. I I think it's a good pick. Think Parker safe for nine targets. A game in that offense. They don't have any other weapons. Yeah the Press Williams but he's also coming off. Acl surgery in the good news about having a wide receiver on the dolphins is. The dolphins are generally losing so they have to throw the ball. And it's you know it's my wider my second wide receiver Odell Wide Receiver. One so see dumpster fires he. Finishing around five was mark. Ingram Keyshawn von Deshaun Watson and then Ronald Jones. So it's pretty interesting to see the to Tampa Bay running backs go so close to their close together there in the draft starting in round six year. We're not going to go through every player. We're just GONNA go through. We picked here. Tyler. You're next. You took a Jake Reed. Yeah Tuck AJ Green here. I was debating between AJ grain. And then my quarterback three and four enact Prescott and Cuyler Murray in the end decided. It's too early to draft a quarterback not named Patrick Mahomes or Jack Jackson. Just forget the league. Mvp that you're going to that. And I think it's because of the madden cours and I just figured I should be able to find plenty of value at quarterback later rounds. You know he's had trouble with staying healthy. He's healthy right now. All signs point to a strong season. It's kind of a gamble here but really think it's a steal in round six to draft. Aj Plus you got a big upgrade over. Andy Dalton with Joe Borough. Is He healthy? Have you seen a report that he's actually healthy compromise confirmation as healthy from actual medical doctor? I think he's still questionable for week. When you order you'll carry that questionable tag for the rest of a makes sense to Shay next Matt. You took Deebo Samuel. Yeah so I'm not super high on this pick but my strategy at this point was I already have Patrick Mahomes. I got Ezekiel Elliott and Josh Shakeup. So I got a very strong core I got. Aj Brown indicate that gap. Even though I really liked both of those receivers my wide receiving core is definitely the weak spot on this mock lineup that I currently have so for me. The more the merrier. I WANNA get as many receivers as I can to try to even it out few of them pan out and live up to the expectations that I'm expecting so I went with Deebo Samuel. They got rid of Emmanuel Sanders. So I think that's going to help. They also drafted Brandon Euch. So that might be a wash Like I said I'm not super excited about this. Pick but in my opinion with with where my team is right now. He's the best player left for me to take. Yeah I'm pretty high deebo. Actually this year too. I think that with them getting rid of Emmanuel Sanders opens up a lot of targets that are inevitably going to go to bill. I think it's a really safe pick. I don't see you know top ten wide receiver potential. But I do think he's a relatively safe vic next. I was on the clock. I actually took Tyler Boyd. And I like the upgrade of Joe Borough over Eighty Dalton and I like Tyler Boyd. Not being injured all the time like eight degree in Silos. Actually super happy to have her here. I think tyler probably should've picked void over green but happy that he let him fall to me. Yeah I can I can. I can see both points of it. I wanted to take more of a gamble with AJ Green. Yeah I'll pay for sixteen games. It's GONNA eat into tyler but you could also argue Greens going to get hurt and boy till pickup dislike. I'm kind of curious why we're ripping on the red rifle AK Andy Dalton so much. Did you guys know that? In the first three seasons of his career he was the third highest. Won't be word at this way only two quarterbacks in NFL history. If don't for more touchdowns in the first three seasons guys want to take a guess who goes Peyton Manning Peyton Manning Dan Marino or a bomb and then it's Andy Dalton. Saw Pay Some respect. I have a question for you. Yeah this is you know in Arbor Court recording studio here. It's like a no cellphone. Did you just Google that quick? Google did a couple days ago before the NFL draft. Oh okay I see you also. What does Andy Dalton done for me lately? Yeah a very fair point so moving on here. I'm moving on to the next pick was actually me and I ended up taking Jonathan Taylor. Yeah absolutely this guy has top ten running back potential day one in the NFL. One hundred percent. I'm not worried about Marley MAC. He's going to take a couple of carries here and there. Yes but they are going to realize that. Jonathan Taylor is a stud and they need to feed him. Rock going back to what you said earlier about. When you messed that Clyde Edwards Allaire was still there the ADP. This is the same thing with me for Jonathan Taylor. I knew he was still on the board. I would have absolutely taken him over. Deebo Samuel. That's a really really good pick. That's one of the big tip to all you listeners. Out there drafting is he has to have a spreadsheet with your rankings so you can mark off each person so you automatically know who your best available is rather than relying on. Adp of whether it be espn on Yahoo sleeper tip. Very very fair point and it should get better as the summer goes on but even for these moxie want to be prepared so very good Kalo. There's no way he will be here in round seven. Yeah no next was Matt. You're next picky. Was Actually Michael Gallo so going back to what I was saying earlier I think. Wide Receiver is my weakest spot so. I wanted to get a couple of them. I went with Michael Gallup. He's shown a lot of potential he's shown flashes he's boomer blast not much consistency with Michael Gallup but I really liked Dallas offense. I think they're going to score a lot of points. Amari Cooper is pretty injury prone he normally plays through it but he is injury prone if you missed some games. Michael Gallup could step up and I'm more than satisfied having him as my wide receiver. Four are you worried? All about CDROM eating into his work load. Asa Twitter disagrees with you dialer. Your next pick was actually Marquees Brown. Yeah seventh-round here. I was inbetween. David Montgomery Christian Kerr in Hollywood Brown. What really made my decision here is unsure of the split of cone and Montgomery the NPR. Montgomery doesn't catch a lot of balls. And then what impact is Hopkins? GonNa have on. Kerr decided to go with Marquees. Brown is coming off an injury in the off season. He had a screw removed from his foot. Now it's crazy to think link that these players will go to be the fastest person on the field is put screws innerfade. I'm surprised you knew who marquees Hollywood Brown was when you couldn't even name his quarterback earlier good point very fair but you know he's the wide receiver one for the Ravens Lamar's getting better going to see a more. I really expect Hollywood to reach close to one hundred target scissor. That was actually doing next question for you was over under one hundred targets for Murky Brown. That is a good line. One hundred one hundred you push. You're going to push push. If you said ninety I would say over. If you said one ten I would say under what we're saying. Ninety nine point five one zero one. I'll take the under under on one hundred and one targets over on ninety between ninety and one hundred added facts. Here no fake news. All right. We'll be on actually tyler. You're on the clock again with another wide receiver. Pick Christian Kurt in round seven Christian. Kirk wasn't option here for me. You know what is he gonNA look like as wide receiver to behind? Andre Hopkins Hopkins is GonNa Demand the majority of the defense attention and kirks going to just be that deep threat. Definitely take a shot on here. Forgetting about the hall of Famer Larry Fitzgerald. He's going to run like a five six forty. It's late in the draft. So it's here. I don't see him doing too much. There's a lot of lot of people to get the ball to that kernels offense. It's GonNa be pretty solid. I'm brutally big on cuyler this year. Cuyler I think keiler has potential to actually be the. Mvp this year. He's my darkhorse for it. They have a bad defense. So they're going to be they they're gonNA have to score a lot of points and they have the offense to do it. They're going to be throwing all game. I will say this though once. Kenyan drake came into the picture. Mary's numbers did go down back to a more reasonable. Nfl quarterback not so great for fantasy. Are you concerned about draping? They're all year in cutting into his numbers not really designed to drink as my second rounder. So if they're going to him go into Kirk that's the one thing that I wasn't really paying attention to on the strap it can get to it later but I have to cardinals and browns sometimes can can be a little. Tricky aches move onto the next picked was met. And you took running back James White James White so I only have two running backs on my roster until this pick so this was a must for me actually really liked James White Tom. Brady's obviously gone. If it's going to be Jarret Stidham he's going to need an outlet and that outlet is going to be James White. I still think New England is likely going to bring in a quarterback. Probably Cam Newton. Either see theory. Yeah what you're talking about that right but either way I think James White is going to be a good outlet forum in with with where we're at the draft. I'm surprised that he's still hearing. Pr Format. He has a very very safe floor so I was. I was actually pretty happy that he said to me here. Yeah I think most of the people in the draft actually took the approach of just hands off from the New England patriots. Which was the route that I was going. But I I do think James Lloyd has a good floor for PR format and waste but like you said with only two running backs. I think he was a very safe option number three or four you but can somebody else get him. The ball decides Brady. I mean he runs five yards. I can tell that be able to. That's about all he can do. Yeah like probably GonNa stay away for most patriots players this year. That's fair. Yep Pretty Hands off team this year all right the next one o'clock I took. Tj Hawkins in mice took a look forward at the tight. End Position I got nervous about what was left so I wanted to grab a tight end here. At this point Amazon. Was the best player on my board at that position. I'm so onto grab it with the addition of Andrea Swift. I think that's going to open up a lot with addition of de Andrea Swift. I think that's going to open up more of the field for Hopkinson so I think he is going to have a better season also expecting a big step forward for a year too tight end all the fantasy owners last year. Get in him after week. One can look at what year two tight ends can do. I mean we have an example of mark. Andrews burst onto the scene last year. So I like the pick and moving onto the next one was me again here with a CD lamb. We all know how I feel about. Cd Lamb from our first episode. Thank you twitter by the way for that convincing win unacceptable. Cd-rom great talent. They're gonNA throw the ball a ton and that's all we really need to say. I think that's a great pick here in round nine. I wouldn't really call it a convincing win. It was like fifty six to forty four percent. A win is a win. Doesn't matter if it's by an inch or mile you descend convincing. It is convincing won. You lost our the SALTINES. Actually kind of a struggle. Hoping that guys can't notice now I can't notice that all moving to the next. It was actually Matt Jared Cook. Yeah Jared Cook. So we've talked about tight ends. We needed. There's not much left. But Jared Cook is a good tight. Andy plays in a good offense. He's got drew brees thrown them. The football on there really wasn't much to pick from here so I just I needed to get a tight end before it dropped off. The players aren't going to be relevant so he was kind of a no-brainer at this point. I'm not super excited about it. But with my team is he's he's a solid addition to it. Yeah think he's like you save not excited but I get safe Titan. He's safe bought as best you can do at this point in the draft. Tyler. You had the next pick here with awe- awesome hooper and other tight end. Yeah feeling the exact same pressure. I think tight ends came off really early here. I don't know if it's going to be a trend for twenty twenty but I went with Austin. Hooper still has potential to be top. Ten tight end Volumes going to be really difficult in Cleveland. They run a lot of two tight end sets and then also with Beckham Landry. He's average I think again about the best you can do at the tight end spot at this point on Taylor on with your next pickier de Andrea swift swift stirred. The swift my yeah. I'm actually surprised you is still here at this bank. Yeah absolutely I think because of the whole ADP thing. I don't think he's going to end up being here. I tried to stay away from them for a while but yeah I just picked him up. You know nothing crazy. Carry on a solid. When he's healthy. This is probably going to be the more timeshare of the three major ones. Carry on get hurt and could be the swift show. Yeah I mean Gary Permanent. Can't be healthy. So I mean it's it's not a bad pick especially at this point again real drafts as they move forward he's not going to be here at the spot. But if you're drafting this early you might get lucky moving on here. We go to team wind You are in the clock with the next pick was Michael. Hartmann me Cole. Hardiman this is my boy fan boy. That noise for that. The Sun Hardman is a beast. I like hard men. He just needs the opportunity. Kansas City's offense has a lot of different players involved but tyreek hill is injury prone even with last year like Nicole. Hardman was still getting opportunities at the deep ball. He's extremely boomer bust. He's not going to be a guy that you can rely on unless there are some injuries but if by weeks or certain injuries do occur he's absolutely serviceable and he is fast. You got mahomes throwing the ball downfield. He just needs paternity. I will pick opportunity like this in the tenth round all day. Yeah absolutely one hundred percent right. The only thing that would shy me away. He only had forty targets last year in a full sixteen games. So he's seeing the ball to win a half times per game so you hit it right on his boombox. He's GonNa win you weeks or Luzia weeks. Yup I think with you having mahomes. It's a it's a great pairing. You know if you don't have mahomes. He's not valuable to you as he can be. But again for your team is a perfect fit. I was on the clock next Mike Williams items out of the Los Angeles chargers still weird to say our AP Diego. I took William Syria with tyrod being the quarterback. I think that might still gets the downfield targets tyrod Kim by some time. He's GonNa Chuck The ball deep when he can and Mike Lives is going to be there deep threat. So I don't see his numbers being really that impacted compared to Philip rivers being there sobbing. Fauria by week's hot. Yeah definitely can nothing more than a bye week here. All right then picking up here in around eleven we had me picking Anthony Miller team win taking Michael Pittman junior out of Indianapolis and team Holler Taken Ryan. Tannehill definitely time to pick a quarterback here one of the talk a little bit about this because just to show you. You can get a serviceable quarterback in the eleventh round. Tannahill had a good year last year after Replace in Marietta laid twelve games. Tennessee does tend to be a run. First offense like Russell Wilson can get it done in a run. First offense offense. I think Tannahill Ken in again in a lot of leagues. He's GonNa be you know late round quarterback like this and you can definitely if you don't get mahomes or Lamar Jackson. You can get a guy like this and he'll be serviceable for. Yeah I think Tannahill. They have a good offense. They're going to score some points. And you're you're taking him this late at the trade off of the other star players. You're able to draft so he's got a safe floor so I think it definitely makes sense to go with the strategy like this and then comparing him to Russell. Wilson was a bit bold. But I get what you were trying to say and I do agree that you know. If you don't take one of the first quarterbacks take you on here and around eleven you cannot be disappointed with Ryan Tannehill move onto round twelve. We had team. Hi Sean Jeffrey team. Winning and Alexander Madison and I took John. Ross yeah I wanted to talk about Alexander. Madison here there is no reason why. Alexander Madison should be on the board and the twelfth around in that is solely for the fact that whoever draft Alvin Cook needs to prioritize getting Alexander Madison as a Hanke. I'm not big on handcuffs in general with the exception of a couple teams and a couple of players. If you're drafting running back in the first round who is injury prone you absolutely have to get the backup especially when there's a clear backup like Alexander Madison if there's a committee behind him not so much but Alexan- mass absolutely needs to be off the board to cook owners earlier all right so we're not going to go over the rest of our picks here We'll just pick a kickers defenses and just end of bench players who are taking random stabs at. How do you guys feel about your teams? I actually really really liked my team. Especially for this. Being the first mock. I normally don't take quarterback as early as I did but this draft actually panned out really really well and played into my favorite. I thought really impressed with my team. Taking three running backs first. Couple wide receivers. If I could have this team in all of my leagues I would be super happy. Can definitely take this kind of team to the championship. It's an average team ever dip Mr Fane boy chief. I never take a quarterback that early and I absolutely loved taking that Lamar that look at my team. I think my team is top notch. I absolutely think this is a championship team of championship. Team I do. What do you guys think about twitter aside? I think we've got another bet here due to all right. I got the perfect stakes for this. I don't want anymore saltine cracker so last night like a had this crazy dream here this out head this dream that like I posted a video of me. Dancing Bald Fat Guy Dance and no-shirt on bouncing all around sounds sounds terrible but it went viral. It got like five million views so here. Here's the terms of this bats. Twitter's GonNa vote. We're going to post each one of our teams on a pool and the losing to have to do a tick tock style video dancing. I absolutely hate that but but I am so confident my team. You're on good because none of have any rhythm no all twitter's GONNA regret. Were they picked on? It'd be really really funny to watch you guys do that is it. You're saying like a video together. Yeah the to the to the Joys Irs Joint Joint TIC TAC has to be something wild and crazy and actually hold on. This Bet. Just got a little bit more interesting. All what he got. The winner picks the video or song that they do so they picked the the dance. You're saying sure okay. All right. I'm into I like it. Yeah let's do it all right it's about we're gonNA need your help. This will be getting posted shortly. Opole screen shot of each of our teams simply vote on which team you think did the best in this mock draft twitter. I'm count on you go into for two. Let's do this. You're going to correct. You're on twitter all right. So that's going to wrap up our first mock draft of twenty twenty. Thank you so much for listening in today. And be on the lookout for our next episode What's that going to be Jake? So on an excerpts. I'll be going over the quarterback tight end rankings. Sounds like fun? I can't wait. Thanks again for listening. Thanks again guys. Have a good rest unite audio.

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Part 2:Jay Privman, Rick Hammerlee

"Sirius Xm FORD'S PRESENTS RAZORS WITH STEVE. Bic handicapping interviews. This is Steve. We're back at the raises our to about twenty minutes in thanks to Richmond Lori for the very personal appreciation of the late Steve. Tomorrow and we look the weekend and to the revamped derby trailed Derby Watch Jay ribbon of the daily racing form. Good Morning. Good Morning. How are you excellent? Excellent talked to Your Derby. Watch compadres earlier. Mardi McGee as he gets ready right for the Matt Win Louisville's on exactly and now it's Now it's time for you. I makes because we have not spoken about it and I haven't heard your thoughts Your reaction to this week's Belmont News. Look I think every track Has Faced with trying to do make the least bad decision. You know every decision that's to be made has ramifications and I think faced with the reality of a Kentucky Derby that had already been set for September fifth and a preakness stakes. That was set four weeks later the options that Nyerere than had regarding the Belmont stakes were to have to happen earlier. So if you're GONNA happen earlier. Considering how little racing there has been and prep horses for Race of what would usually be a mile and a half. I think it's unrealistic to expect the race to stay at a mile and a half so I actually thought that what they ended up doing for this year alone and having had the other two races already. But you know put their lines in the sand was really the the best option remaining agreed and it. Also Is of service to the Industry At Large. I mean it shows great deference to the the the entire infrastructure and and you know the sort of the organism that that racing is and and I the people carrying on about all. You know the the IT. It's a sacrilege. Wha What are you talking about? The whole year is is just out the window. I mean what what? What possible sanctity were we supposed to salvage of of a triple cranny season now? There's no triple crown. There's not gonna be a normal triple crown season because nothing could be. Normal this your. Everything's going to have a big asterisk. After it mean the Derby is being run four months after normally would be the is being run. You know more than five months or or you know practically five months after normally would be so You know nothing's going to be normal this year and I just think the reality of what my role is faced with. That was the least bad. Decision you know but the one thing that I'm that you don't see by the people who complain as a better a better solution to that idea. So let's let's game play this out Do you have the Belmont three weeks after the Preakness and try and have some sort at at a mile and a half. Well you're probably going to get a two-horse Field. You know the horse who maybe would be going for the triple crown if they'd won the first U. X. and maybe another horse and or horses. Who just don't want to run in the Breeders Cup which is not going to be moved because that date is set. So you're you can't squeeze it in them to run at a mile and a half earlier with an would be preposterous based on the racing schedule. That there's been to the state and you'll maybe you could have run at a mile and a quarter but I actually think a mile an eighth one turn race as a fair race on park than a mile and a quarter especially if there's a big field starting on turn so I just really think that this based on what the you know. It's like when you hit a golf shot. I mean you have to play where it lays. And that's what based on where the the ball was at the point where they had to make a decision. I think this was the best option available folding J. as well The way you sense the schedule Unfolding BECAUSE WITH EVERY PASSING DAY. Really the last two weeks. We've started to get a pencil and and and firm up and yesterday Eric. Hellstrom from Indiana Grant With the mid week Indiana Derby and oaks. Talk a little bit about as you yourself looking at The schedule between now and September. How it it's come together. Well it'd be a from a well from Derby standpoint triple crown. I don't understand your question despite from elite up Derby standpoint You know about what what is going to be A. I don't know the there's GonNa be some very odd pathways here and there's going to be countless seems opportunities for a wide variety of horses. I mean including the ones. We'll we'll handicap the Matt win a minute But you look at horses like that. Mystic Guide pneumatic that are jumping in the quarter pole Just some thoughts about you know all these other. You know all these other opportunities horses are going to have and we still have yet to firm up a bluegrass and when the travers is going to be et cetera right so there's obviously opportunity for later developing three to V. Derby participants this year. You know Mr Guide pneumatic among them running tomorrow. I'm sure there's GONNA be others and coming weeks You know at this time. A few years ago nobody really knew who era gate was so. There's the opportunity for a horse like that with that kind of talent to jump forward. Certainly how that you've got to postpone Derby? Obviously it played out well for Max Field. Who which just was not. He was going to run out of time for for Saturday in in May scheduled Kentucky Derby. So there's a horse who was able to regroup and now he's going to have several prep races leading up to the Kentucky Derby and but yeah they'll be other opportunities and all the other jurisdictions there's going to be point scoring races in California beginning with the Santa Derby in a few weeks the Los Alameda. Derby is going to have points I I'M CERTAIN DEL. Mar is going to have a three year old race in early August That will serve as a race for California based horses to move onto the Kentucky Derby as you mentioned. There's the Haskell And that's another reason. Why just circling back to what we started this discussion with. That's another reason that the Belmont needs to be placed where it is because you move deeper into the calendar you're impacting races on your circuit and potentially other big three year old races on the eastern seaboard like the hassle And as you just alluded to begin the travers is GonNa probably have to be moved into earlier in August two not a conflict with the Kentucky Derby because otherwise it would be about two weeks in front of it so I'm sure you'll see that happen As well so there's an churchill. His announced additional points scoring races which include the Belmont which include the Los Alamitos Derby coaching which includes the Haskell. So there's GonNa be more opportunities. Some of the dates of some of those races haven't been set in stone yet because we're still dealing with A bit of a moving target here and the you know the the point scoring a as a as Aaron Rodgers laid out last week. A mix and match races like the Pegasus at Monmouth. The twenty points the Indiana Derby at twenty point basis the Lou The Los Al Derby at twenty point basis Haskell. Bluegrass travers Imagine they didn't specifically announce a hundred But I imagine that drivers is beyond your forty twenty ten. So there's still. There's there's still going to be in fact there's a myriad of opportunities there's there's going to be horses Big Getting on planes and won't going to be very interesting to see how those fields assemble right. But I mean there there'd be getting on planes for those rates anyway. I I get bigger. You might just get bigger fields now because there's there's I still think no matter when the Derby's run that's still the race. Everybody wants to win. And I think you're still gonNA have outside interest in wanting to be in Derby Because it's that's the one race that everybody wants to win and There's that's still going to be the focal point of people's campaigns. They just are going to have to get there in a in a different fashion. The other thing that you know is sort of another the great unknowns here is if there's an overflow field for the Derby which I still think there will be what the bottom level for points will be this year. Because you're you're going. There's going to be added races now. And so what has happened in the past Hamster reason the the bottom get in would be a higher number well and a granted. It's still four weeks away but You immediately in following up the announcement The other morning between you and Mike Walsh and Dave Greg assembled you know in like a ten horse field Ten horse you know major ten or S- Assembly within minutes really of The announcement give us a feel for your conversations with the with Horsemen Rob Dave and I and Mike just been in touch with a number of people who had horses on the Derby watched top twenty list and so we just wanted to gauge their interest. That's another reason that the mile and an eighth distance at the time that it's being run make sense because the horsemen know what their horses are capable of doing right now with the one that had opportunities they pat so you people like Todd. Pletcher FOR INSTANCE. You Know He. He gave me three names. Right off the bat to that. We've got our derby watchlist and then And then one other that You know that he's considering right. Just straight away so it's just You know Mott's interested with with modernist. Obviously baffles got to that he could consider for the race and when the Dahlan Charlatan it's You know there's there's a lot of You know there's a lot of Interest in in a mile and a name Don steaks and of course we knew that Soon as this was firmed up And in fact even even before the official announcement did seem like You know Mike heard between Barclay tags comments and Jack Knowlton from sacking Toga. You know the Tis. The law was going to be the you know the east coast centerpiece and then with baffled floating charlatan and the Dow You know right away. It becomes just hallmark solve the lot. The being coenen basin you mentioned the pleasures Farmington Road Guvener Morrison the third to contender potentially Dr Post Linda Rice who's been waiting to run Max player and and you mentioned the modernist That's just You know that that was that was without even beating the bushes so sixteen potentially being announced the weighed in on that stock about one one of the I think would have been an interesting whereas for that race and that's Kim Guillermo but I talked to. His trainer started making phone calls to everybody and he just says the course needed. She told me I needed more time. Coming out of the The Arkansas Derby and so he's he's he's not going to be ready for for for the Belmont stakes and he's just gonNa ship Churchill downs You Know Martha out from the Derby and take it from there interesting We'll see we've had we've had some long distance Preparations I think nothing further than the Tampa Bay Derby. But this would be. This would be a new wrinkle. J. Let's let's talk a little bit about Tomorrow and the Matt Win which Got a boost in points and was going to be good anyway but it got very interesting your thoughts about tomorrow. Oh Yeah it's obviously It's an interesting race for a lot of reasons. Because you've got some well known horses in here The biggest marquee name is Max field. One of the best two year olds in the country. Last you're finally making his long awaited three year old debut and racist running track where the Derby is going to be run. So that's that's another big factor with this The the point values fifty to the winner was originally announced his ten and then I think they can do whatever they want with it. It's their race so I you know I think fifty actually makes more sense but I I thought they would be almost bending over backwards. Noble the only make attended the originally announced that the thing that's interesting I think about the race is Steve from a handicapping standpoint is that there doesn't look like there's a whole lot of growing pace in the race and that's going to really make it interesting tactically to see if some of the worst is usually lay farther back or are you used earlier to to gain position but you know from a pay standpoint You know obviously Celtic striker New York traffic. Or the the to figure to be closest and So I I think that's GonNa be an interesting aspect of this race is just how it unfolds earlier Early I should say I thought New York traffic benefited by a soft paste behind wells by you last time. But it looks like he's GonNa get another soft Softish pays here. It'll be interesting to see who can late closer to that and still finish Well I I really like Pneumatics allowance when On the On the oaklawn stakes undercard that day. he's two for two and I've seen a reason why he shouldn't be effective begins. This field Obviously really you're going to see how maximum does but she's he's going to have to become an from way out of it Concern for In this race though maybe being fresh will be a little bit closer than than Than Usual I spoke to Brandon Walsh for the story that I wrote the other day feature story on Max Field and he said that you know obviously acknowledged that the horse had trouble getting out of the gate and this two races last year but he thinks that maybe because of the horse has gotten stronger. He said he was kind of a sparsely made. Course last year was filled out and gotten stronger. He thinks that being stronger behind could translate into getting out of the gate a little bit better than fact. He had a breathes from the gate. A couple of weeks ago at Keeneland Where he went five eight hundred fifty nine and one And Jose Ortiz fool in for that work and worked on that day. So we've had mice Prep in that regard so I would think there's there's a real possibility that between being fresh and being a more mature horse that he could be a little bit closer than he was in his two races last year and I that boy a bullet best the thirty four fifty nine and one from the gate so I I sort of referenced. Your your quotes and and others that we've seen from From Brendon Walsh and he seems very upbeat and You know he's not a he's not the type to be boastful or You know he's not he's not a chess pounder but he sure sounds Like he he thinks the ors picks right up the where where left off So looking forward to this and J obviously we were a couple of weeks out from the Santa Anita Derby but the two the two major principles of with honor. Ap and and authentic any any news and notes In that direction not both training long towards the race. And you know I think it'll be a small field. He might get a horse like shooter. She coming back in there But I don't think you're going to have You know I wouldn't expect a big field but still you know it's still a few weeks away. There's still split still still a couple of weeks away so there is still time for a couple of others to jump in but you know the two of the top take a lot of the air out of the room so I I don't think a whole lot of challenges to them well and Jay Before we wrap up just some thoughts about things getting up and running and What a relief to get going last weekend at Santa Anita Great. I mean it was it was nice to Santa Anita back up and running. They've got a terrific weekend of racing. This week with the Wittingham tomorrow and to grade one races on Monday the game in the shoemaker mile. So there's some really good racing out here this weekend and just nice to get going again I thought Santa Anita had really done almost the the model how this should be handled and thought The shutdown was It was it was. I thought they were doing everything right under that. At the point in which they were asked to to to take a powder and I was glad to that they were allowed to get back up and running again even more enhanced the protocols. I think they've really tried to do the right thing. overall so It's just nice to get back up and running because not not not only here but I mean everywhere where there was a lengthy suspension of racing in New York continues. They'll be up running soon but they're still not up and running. You know it's it's a real A real hardship on on On horsemen it's hard. If you've got a small barn I guess it really at any size bar. Small-time got your. This has been a rough go. It's it's rough to begin with trying to compete with guys who have scores divorces. Then yeah this on so I think you can do this. Safeway and it's been shown that you can that It's it's a good thing to get going again and we you know we've seen look at the interest. There's been look at the field sizes in these races. Horses are trainers have done what they need to do to try and keep horses. Ready for For racing and then rewarded with just some really really good quality racing though last week not only at Santa Anita but just everywhere that was that was that had reopened. It was just really fun to watch very much and If old in the field sizes which were anticipated Don't know if it's practical to imagine they're gonNA last but not an ongoing basis however With a few venues J. that May Not be coming up online You know in short order The there may be some lessons I think demonstrated here And I brought this up with our Kallstrom. Yesterday we Indiana They can't even satisfy the stall requests. They've got eleven hundred stalls and and the Hallstrom said the request for two thousand in a total of two thousand horses and if Fairy Meadows is not going to run anytime soon And of course. Chicago is is In a holding pattern and the rest of the Midwest between Canterbury and Ohio and Kentucky and Indiana They're going to benefit. And you know one of the things people have talked about is in the over saturation. In essence of of jurisdictions and You know that that's been evident It just the way this thing has manifested itself lose. I don't know I just I just was of riffing on it and and You know it We'll see we'll see what the in fact Hammer is gonNA join us next and and he certainly you know as as a longtime GM racing official racing office official knows You know the the ebb and flow of this So Jay in enjoy the weekend. What's the coverage? What is the coverage of availability In terms of going to Santa Anita what where does that stand media media like owners are still not permitted onsite? Okay all right because everybody everybody's sort of Working their way through that And I hadn't I hadn't heard what the fact that fact I talked to Dave Brennan yesterday and we were kind of wondering what You know how that's going to unfold in in New York to J I appreciate it may maturity weekend right now. Yeah that's then of course it it. Strictly is a you know as a health department a situation in each each arena and each at each venue so i. I don't know that I can only speak specifically to Fan Anita regarding why it's being done in that case it is I don. I couldn't tell you why it's being done in other Jurisdictions but I know here that they've been told you know the least amount of people the chances of reopening and therefore they said look we won't have media we won't have we won't even have owners here so And that was something that was in their proposal to to reopen. That was that was part of the agreement you know hopefully as moves on either at Santa Anita or before they an or maybe it will sell or dome ours. Some of those things will be relaxed. But you know it just depends on how things unfold regarding At least in southern California regarding what what happens with the with the virus and it's spreading control and hopefully things will get better but it's moving target. Jape ribbon everybody D. R. F. Prevent and J enjoy the weekend. You thanks next. I'll lodge Apron folks that Derby Watch Marty McGee. We're staying right here because As I mentioned hammer was going to join us and First of all say good morning to recognize the morning. Dave how are you excellent excellent? I just thought here and Casey called the other phone and I was got me. All flustered here. We got back and now I'm on the regular phone so I can So I can hear you all good here whether it's good You know it's very inviting to get outside and we're starting to open up a little bit here in California. Of course they're like county has been but a lot of the counties here. Pudding San Diego as Relaxed a few of the regulations and Some things are started to open up so there's hope there's hope now and I just invoked you hammer a little bit because The the number available stalls came up yesterday in that conversation with our Kallstrom and with certain venues not having no immediate plan to get to get started and and specifically thinking Arlington and Prairie Meadows. There's overflow horseflesh that needs needs a place to bed down and and to enter and run and I was just curious. I mean from from your standpoint from a racing office standpoint I mean obviously it's a luxury But then at the same time I know that I'm. I'm sure that Mike Lake out down at Gulfstream is now seeing this exodus of the going back to Kentucky in and to the northeast. So it's a bit of an ebb and flow But how do you handle that? If if you've got two thousand stall requests and eleven hundred stalls right I you've anyone that's that certainly over the years talk about The job of being a racing secretary handling that literally the toughest part and the and a job which is many many facets is Christoph Situation Handing them out deciding deciding You know making decisions that affect people's lives is you know it it it wears at your so You know you're deciding who gets in and he'll get and who and who doesn't when like you said you're trying to fit Two thousand divorces into twelve thirteen hundred stalls and you gotTa make a decision here and there so You know just so many factors you. Look at the loyalty factor. The guys that have been with you for a long time. He tried to take care of Meant a chance to win down some some of the horses. That People having the luxury you know if they they've got twenty stalls and really only twelve of them ready to run right now and there's a four and various various pages of readiness Maybe now is the time where you say. Hey you know what you gotta take three or four of those and you know. Keep them on the farm so we can get some race. Ready Horses inherited the Right now it's just such a tricky situation. It's such A. It's a hard thing to grasp the outside that when you have fifteen hundred stalls at a racetrack and it's hard sometimes to get this sort of management not all fifteen hundred or ready to run tomorrow you know they're they're they're in various phases of readiness and now some already have run tomorrow. We'll be ready in thirty days and some will be ready and you know forty five to sixty not to give stalls for horses. That are too far out but you know they have to get ready that catch twenty two while you're not ready. Well I gotta get to the race stuff theoretically well. You're not ready so you can't get to the racetrack. So there's just a fine line in there and he gets to know the people and who who's Clo- telling you the truth and whose horses are are going to fit who's going to run and and so it favors the people that that that get involved in re in the racists Safe at some run more than others and at this point you know your your word. Those people that help you out through the years whether they're on fight or they WANNA come in and You know I've seen the racetrack during this time. Be Pretty accommodating right. Some over the tracks are open. An art running state open to train which is just been so important and You know it's it's the on saying somehow it works out at the end and and it usually does You know people find places for for horses whether it's a farm or or somewhere and sometimes those ones that are projects just have to stay on the farm and the longer and It is a luxury right now. It it's helped as you've seen a lot of big fields in places because there's more water running less tax that are open to run in so it will work itself out if you track tracks opening and and And then you have the situation where okay mic track is a track. A and they're not open so I'm GonNa go to track fee and then walks back. These gives you stalls in the track a opens and the guy goes take. But I'm Outta here then you like. Hey what are you doing so There's a fine line in there and it's all about just like everything in this world communication you know Get in touch with everybody. Find out exactly what's going on and And getting the job done but it's a hands on thing. Is this phone call after phone? Call dealing with you the situations looking at PP's deciding you know. I guess it's the toughest part of the job out there but You know and then went in one racist I. It's the most important. Because you need the horses on on track that. GonNa Fill your racist and ready to run soon. So it'll get done but You know Churchill had the same thing problem with them bloom. Everybody wants to go to Kentucky at this time of year and Ben Band was You know we all talk amongst ourselves about people and you know what you think about this guy and who's going to run and you know limit stall limits. You guys may be used to get twenty five or thirty and maybe WANNA get Mateen. This time so has to task to get it and You know we. We being the the racing You know fans and bettors are the ones that are gonNA profit so keeper is an open you hear of a lot of things going on but the guys that are in charge out there right now they kind of get it and and it's a lot of working together but it'll get done now. I appreciate the insight I wanted to touch on it Popped the minute I the minute Eric talked about it yesterday and when it comes to The news that we are Yep saying and it never stopped. Jiffy cut stalls DOB occasions. Do May I and the meat opens may fifteenth. And they're all full that you don't just put you know. Put the with the judge away It's a constant in and out out in Guy Jimmy over there. You gave twenty stalls to a month and he's only got eight this year. Well and then you got three guys. WanNa come in. Well guess what you know now. It's opened up okay. You're on hold now. You're in go ahead you perform when you get those salts in the middle of a better perform or you're GONNA be out so it's a constant slow in and out of courses you know guys up some guys got twenty next thing you know they. They want they want ten more winning races or going to them. They're claiming a lot. So you've gotta find room for them. It might be in or barns but you find room for the guys that water run and then like I said the guy don't perform Have a little conversation with them. And maybe they're down a little bit so it's a never ending job it so. I guess that's one of the toughest hammer couple of thoughts from you. Been canvassing everybody since The News mid week about Belmont Your reaction no This situation no. Since since it was announced the date and the distance a lot of people are talking right one way or the other. There's a lot of a lot of twitter stuff. A Lotta stuff in the papers and a lot of but reminded me of one of my one of my favorite quotes of all time that and it goes Some people feel the rain and others just get wet and you know people. It's time to start feeling the rain. It's twenty twenty plane and things things are. There's no rules. Let's let's just be happy that we're running these races and you know the only the only in the whole scheme of things the only distance and race that matters in this feels the Kentucky Derby It was the Kentucky. Derby is going to be run and it's going to be running a mile and a quarter and after that just running a mile. Does anybody really care At this point this year Belmont You know they're not gonNA run a mile and a half is the first race. You Know Derby still the longest that any sources will run on the dirt at amount of quarter no matter when it is this year. I'm very happy for that. And you know they did the right thing this year with the Belmont and this just going to have an Asterik by anyway and so let's have a little fun with it. Hey running dome at a mile and eight. Let's let's let's rock. Now look back and you remember who won the Super Bowl in the strike. Your at all does account. Yeah I don't think there's an asterisk. In the nineteen eighty-seven the one wanted to strike the strike shortened season. Okay yes why? They still get the trophy on the shelf. Whoever wins the derby this year is going to have a trophy on their shelf? Whoever WINS THE BELMONT GETTING INTO BELMONT? Trophy one thousand nine hundred ninety had a strike even better even run even have a world series but that have been better though. We're running three races. And you know what if someone's lucky enough to be going into that final leg or the chance to win the third leg at this year until happened to be the preakness you know what I'm sorry. But you're getting the triple crown trophy. And that's I mean that's the way I think you know this is a. This is a year where we're doesn't of course racing restaurant beaches. There's rules new rules for everything so let's just roll with it sphere for years from now. Look Back Oh yeah. That's right that's your. They rented out of order. Oh Oh so so went three races. Anyone that triple crap so I say let's roll and quit complaining about things. Just be happy that we're we`re. We're talking about racing and we are racing and And move forward. So I'm I'm off work. You know. There's so many things just like this stall situation. There's so many things involved in scheduling Know Communication there well But we got TV. You know when you'RE GONNA RACE YOU'VE GOT TV. You gotta deal with you have you have not only scheduling of that race but the Belmont. It has. Derby has become in the fragments. It's a big day in itself so there's other races that you have to think about when you're picking the day You know to see us at those state in. There's there's just all kinds of things I think the modern list for right this is for the Belmont on for for for that day and Be Tough say we're going to run at a mile and a half you know and get five voices and say boy. Look what we did. They're gonNA have modernized rates. It's GonNa be it's gotta be a Lotta Horses in there and that's what we want save. You WanNa see some a lot of horses run and I think it's It's I think it's fine. So that's my ideal Ralph. You'll have a little fun. You know We haven't had fun in a long time. We've been inside for two months so quick complaining and let them. Brace Brace Jank. I appreciate all right answer. But that's my deal but Anyway there's been enjoying You know the little bit of the comeback here from everybody sat anita last week and hit the road Hit the ground running with their three days. I gotta say after a lot of needles going into the weekend last weekend and It's a lot more positive thinking out here than there's been in a long time as you know there's been there's been a A black cloud over Santa Anita for awhile since basically since the beginning of last year and You know maybe the maybe. The clouds elise turning a little gray and and is headed in the right direction but Just got the feeling from talking to people that I do that. It's been it's been kind of like taking a little bit of a deep breath and start thinking about racing and stop worrying about some Some you know and silly stuff that there's nothing you can do. I mean things just happened but anyway On my on my end Enjoying the racing. I thought you mid week I I like I said I've been playing a lot of contests and and Someone turns to something and speaking contests. You know what I need. I need a lesson in that stats race. Blends and I did. You're a man. I drive and puttering around with advert for a little bit. I can't figure out I can't figure out how to use the tool so I might be calling you. Give me a lesson in that seriously I it looks given. I don't know what to do with it so there's a lot there's actually it. It sounds like it. I just haven't haven't been doing the warm form and sheets and and Actually knock on wood. Been doing okay but I found out what turned me on to the to the Roberts Tv package and I'll tell you what It's fantastic and You know I talked to you. I feel like I You know I don't know I've been released it so I didn't do a quick Those you don't know it's it's a roberts. Tv package been around for a long time and Robert Communication. And what it is. It's a it's a satellites At deal where you gotta get a Roku stick or fire stick which you know learning about that stuff and anyway he gets their APP and you get their their TV package. I thought it was. You know thought it was like a hundred bucks a month or something this fifteen dollars a month and what it is you get the track feed so when you're handicap a certain track. I mean it is like it is so cool. It's you get the tracks feed which means you're getting the will pays you get to watch the replace it after the race It's clear Chris Picture and it's almost like when you're sitting there and you're in your study or whatever he got it on. It's almost like it's right for you. They're talking right to you and it's It said Hassoun switched from track to track. I mean TV is great but sometimes they don't have. Ill will pay you know the odds. Aren't we need to look up and see the odds? You don't see him. You know right away so if you're playing churchill or you're playing you know fun or Tampa you can just switch from track track when you get to that track. It's just it's it's just like it's it's showing right to you. I really enjoyed that and I know I mean it was so easy I did it myself. I didn't even need my daughter to hook up the roku stick and everything else that I found out too that you can go to Steve. Bic DOT COM. Click on their logo there and And check out and get it through there and there's also Stephen you know that are not you can go to to to N. DOT TV. And if you punch in the Promo Code. Rt N. B. Y. K. Arcadian Bentayga. Five three days to try it out so you can do that. Check it out. I'm telling you you'll never you'll never go back and so you know you. I go back and forth. I go to TV. So I don't miss the the races and then when they come on I slip back to the Robertson when it gets closer to post time so I can watch it the Chris. Clear thing with the odds changes in the will. As and so. I mean I've been you know rejuvenated. It's it's just been fantastic so You know like I said I'm I'm feeling the rain. I'm taking it all kinds of kind of new stuff for me because I'm not used to be on an incentive I really enjoy the racing and and just so glad we're coming back if you don't start to come back. I think Riodosa even start kit and Lone Star. You know for those. I haven't I haven't really pushed the at all. The you know the the Promo because I didn't think it was. It was the best timing you know the last couple of months. But WE'VE BEEN. We've had this opportunity with racetrack television network with our TSN. And you get five free days as an introduction. And I've waited because I wanted to get the essentially get more racetracks up and in fact even another if you wait another couple of weeks to do it. You know you'll you'll have everything and you'll also you know. It's not just the thoroughbreds. It's the quarter tracks. It's the standard breads. It's what's left of the greyhounds. It's international it. I mean it is. It's mind blowing actually and We'll we'll flesh it out more next month because the more tracks that get back to running the better opportunity will be for those of you that haven't ever utilized T. N. Before but you know one of the beautiful things that you get replaced so you can go back and play. You can categorize it by by year by track and you know when you're handicap in the last minute. Oh Jeez I gotta go. Let me watch that right. Boom boom boom like that and you get the head on You. Get all that stuff. I mean it this is great. I mean sometimes I never come out of the Office for that day and make happy to when I'm in there but it's just it's just wonderful yelling screaming but Anyway the new new tool like I said I'm expanding my handicapping horizons and I'm really enjoying the game from a different angle right now until we get back but Yet wanted to make sure we talked for bringing that up. Actually when I actually have a good friend. That works stared. I called and he goes well. Yeah just go to speed. You can click on the deal. Said I'm GonNa talk about what else you got for me. 'cause five days put the put the RT and bicker in there and So you can't beat that and I usually whenever I get a special trial for two weeks or something right on the calendar the two weeks cancel so like did that with this. I think I don't worry about cancel it because it was just it was just so good and I WANNA slip slip one thing in to Rick John Nichols and John. Plays from home at John. Mentions you can run multiple. Tv's has got if you've ever seen the picture from from his from his sports central got multiple. Tv's you can feed off of it as long as your Internet is strong enough you know to to separate the signal and you need a device for each TV. So if you've got to rokos or Roku in a in a at a fire stick and whatnot But you you basically could set up your own your own not. I mean in your house with multiple. Tv's and that's what a lot of the you know when you see when you see the guys that play in Vegas for instance And when you're in a you know any sweets the sweets keeneland And and so forth those multiple. Tv's that's basically you know what you've got. What you have is an option and you can also as part of our tean setup multi multi-screen within the one screen and. John says they have to have the same brand. You can have like a a Roku and then you know the the apple APP. Tv thing or whatever so all the same brand but you can feed to multiple. Tv's if you've got your own your own power tower bank watching you know five tracks six tracks at once. So I put John. Thanks for that. That's how well that's how you can play like John and you can win you know two or three contests on Saturday. You got to keep your eyes on everything you do. But don't be afraid of the Roku the Roku go roka's great. What does that this little and you know? It's like plugging I like are listed. All after do is plug it in. He's like yeah that's it. Get the apple boom and it was. It was very easy so to roku itself. Intimidate US did very simple very happy. I I was. I was walked out myself but As we get on one you know what I gotta do. I had to Dafur last week and I didn't mention and and we a lot of people have pack as as we go along in this. This is a a TV guy that we didn't talk about. That's one of my standard guys passed last week Jerry Stiller and Not many people just like you know okay. But I'd say what if you know Jerry Stiller? You watched anything at Never. Never when he's on view not laugh. I don't care if he's on the scene for five seconds you laugh at me like wow i. Just one of the funniest guys did around for for a long time doing all kinds of things of course most recently on Seinfeld and and That other that other show. That's on late at night but Anyway Jerry Stiller. So we're we're we're coming into the second week again and eat up that dot by the first big and that's what it was the got by the first week without any any any problems. And so that's a good thing had our first two year old race last week and we talked about really Mendez and that operation coming out of Utah and the dixie downs. I guess they're checked that operation on it and just we long ago there's been horses coming out of Utah into southern California for years and you know once every couple months would show up under a unknown trainer and has some workout than some place you never even saw it was in a was Utah new they used to we call them Utah Maiden which meant they could have run at three four five cases in Utah but they were not terribly didn't matter and you know they come in here and moved you know twenty seven eighty thank you very much in a couple of months and so now they're they're recorded there but please please take a look at Louis Mendez. There's he's got a couple in today and the two race today the cowbridge. They're all they're all ready to run and most of them have a for sale. Sign on their back to the this Operation of bank. They'd they'd get him ready. They run early. They win early and they're for sale early. So keep your eye on him. And there's a material race. I think starts out the card today. So keep your eye on him through the Through the meat And it's good to see the two year old starting and move on So tomorrow Saturday is the first day of the three-day weekend here. So we'll test the test. The waters couple of steaks tomorrow Sunday no and then Few stakes on Monday. The two great ones as you as you mentioned the ones tomorrow To turf races short one long. Jin So out as much as we we hope but I won the Daytona and Funding we put the name. One thing I have left there since the harassers I neighborly named this race at the Daytona Kinda quietly to things go to quietly. So at the time there was actually a running Dan Hendrix that of course called Daytona and Nice Friday night. I was very good down the hill but so I named grace this Daytona and we would put it on the Sunday of the Daytona. Five hundred and took a couple of years in someone finally goes. Hey you didn't name this race. After the first I go now except for the Daytona five hundred but he took off and it's actually got Got A great three. By though he stepped we kept with it but the no longer downhill As you know we're we're still some of us are still hoping that that Downhill race track return. I don't know but it'd be nice but they're five and a half now they're I mean it. Sure looks like it's destroys race to live as a really nice sprinter term or dirt like can handle anything I mean. He's a great one winner on the Turkey one the he's on this course as well as Simeon last night not going to be very tough to beat. Of course Peter Miller He owned this category. For for many many years has a horse called Texas wedge in there A little bit comes from off the pace and I looked like the racist between those two Doug. O'neill has three in there. And and he wins his share those as well but Seven horses in there Captain Tough to get away from the favorites in there and then later in the day the Charlie winning him Go to mount a quarter on turf and that's you know. There's only drill field seven as well. George Papa Drama. Put a couple and it looks like you know. helped out and made the rape kits numbers. We'll see if they end up running. Bolton's average got a little speed and they're all pretty much will be on on united with Pratt and speaking Pratt. Of course he had a antastic day last weekend. He wants nick. I think he went ten for the week. And we've talked about him. I mean when there's a turf race first thing you do is you look and see craps on and then you go from there really. Just he's really coming into his own and he's not fidget hold into being just a turf. surf rider as he was for years. He can do it all on surface especially so he's not united for rich. Mandela and And sphere reminded that You know Mr Mandela. He's the one that caught up brought. brought Pat Pratt on the scene and gave him a stark and got going. So it's nice to see him being faithful to get back on this. Of course that that that huge run against bricks and mortar in the Braider Scott and Gothi right on the money and since then has held that form and will probably be the to beat in here. you know doesn't fall too far back and and we'll look like it'd be able to make the first move on On Chad Brown's who shipped in here. Who hasn't hasn't won yet in this country but has run very respectable and I teases his name. Terai and I actually. I wondered if he was coming in just for this nominate. They checked I checked overnight. A Churchill and Florida. I didn't have anything to ride We'll probably stay the weekend and write. Some more Chad has more horses here but Anyway looks like those one of us to watch out for The Jeff mullins horseshoe literally ran to the TV. Last night just ran. Huge originator Maybe a look at a little bit of a price a huge number For that and You know our turf wars is out. Here have not been the greatest. The last five six seven eight years so United in break that streak and carry on looking forward to a nice Week of Sunshine and getting back into action at Santa Anita and Churchill. Boy They are on fire. I mean they cards or just antastic that five five or five steak pick. Five tomorrow is Great and Actually contest Tampa tomorrow some feeder deal that we don't we got into so I'll be busy handicap and joy to leak and I've sounds like everybody else's to Amer I appreciate it Good luck this weekend and we'll talk next week. Happy Memorial Day steak. You can be if you're going to be at arm's distance. 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FFOTParty Trivia Show Part 2 Episode 029

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FFOTParty Trivia Show Part 2 Episode 029

"Welcome to the fantasy football time podcast I'm your host Jigs Isky with me as always are Tyler Hollerbach and Matt Win. We've made it to September. Today's is Tuesday. September first NFL kickoff is just nine days away. You guys I wanted to ask you a question who is your favorite player doesn't have to be NFL to wear the number nine ooh, that's a tough one. Actually, you know what is not a tough one? It's a first person that comes to mind Meka. Koivu he is. A center for the Minnesota Wild, he's played his entire fifteen year career with the Minnesota wild always respect players echo out in play their entire career with the same team you have to love Meka quite know off ice issues standup guy the captain of the team. Big Fan. That's respectable. I. Like that Tyler would you got well I might be old but I'd never saw I never saw this guy played baseball, but it has to go to nine time sticking with the theme nine, nine time World Champ World Series Champ Joe Dimaggio share what baseball great their own way back way back you wore number nine he played baseball. So they played in nine innings was a nine time world new mind-blowing. He's also got the best hit streak in MLB history. If I'm not mistaken, it's like fifty six games you are correct. Is that what it is fifty six? Yeah. He's a Stud I like it tyler respect Jacob Oh you who's your favorite player that ever wore number nine mine would be the late. Great. Mayor Steve McNair I was titans fan growing up. So he was one of my favorite players. So Fair was Steve McNair hence that email address you sent us that one time that was some random titan fan boy six, nine, six, nine X. Okay. No, and I'm not about to give my actual email here. But yes, there is a titan in there and it's at hotmail. Okay. Yes. That would be why did you guys know that the titans were my high school mascot I did not fun fact sure mine was I don't eagles do not mine was? Do they even have mascots with? The Rangers. Sure. Oh. Do we have any overtime news? Today? We do. We have a little bit of over. Time. News. Our News today is all around running backs, some injuries and some optimism David Montgomery was injured in practice on Wednesday with a non contact injury right after the injury broke all of a sudden. On twitter thought they were expert talking about what was ultimately happening I'd heard everything from. Yell, torn MC L. TO SEASON Two people being optimistic saying he's going to be just fine I heard it was a paper the I'm sure that was thrown around the he tripped. But what ended up happening was it was a groin injury in well, it looks like he avoided the worst which was the torn ACL is a severe groin injury. I. Don't know how long it's going to keep them out but it sounds like he's GonNa miss some time. But at least he will not miss the whole twenty twenty season as initial fears kind of made. It sound to be X. by up that Tarik Cohen Stockholm Yeah Cohen Stock is going to go way up if Montgomery is out, they also might consider looking at someone like a Devante. Freeman who is still available in free agency so we'll have to see what ends up happening. They're moving on to the next running back injury. It also sounds pretty minor. It was Kenyan drake. Who was seen in a walking boot following practice? Are you guys worried with the season being nine days away with Kenyan? Drake being in a walking boot even though he tweeted out that it was precautionary yeah. Walking boots are never good. If says he's good. He's good believe in a guy invest engelman random. Yeah. You never want to hear that you're running back is you Know in a walking boot right before the season. But last year you know, Derrick Henry has had a walking boot before training camp and he ended up being just find drake's at. He's good. Kingsbury said it was just precautionary so I haven't dropped him yet. But if this gets any worse prolongs, he might get dropped a few spots by dropped you mean, drop them in your. Lineup just drop them in the rankings. The next injury was left bell. He also tweeted out that he's just fine. He seems surprised that people were talking about his hamstring's being injured. So I. Think there's just in general a lot of conversation being thrown around I think these guys are going to be Fine David Montgomery is definitely the most serious of those? Yeah. For sure I think the love boat thing is Adam Gays Adam gays. All right. The last piece overtime news that we have is optimistic little different than the previous injuries that we just discussed. This one was offensive coordinator stating that Todd. Gurley, we'll see fifteen to twenty five touches per we are. You guys buying this I love it gives them the Rock I mean. Yeah. He can get upwards of twenty to twenty five touches a week. That's amazing. You know if he's fifteen, it's know whatever that's kind of where we I think all realistically thought he'd be. But Yeah, if he gets twenty twenty-five, he's a full workhorse running back up that point and he's fully healthy. That's what that means. Yeah. If he's touching the ball twenty times a week, he is absolutely going to be an rb one. He might be in the top five to seven range if he starts getting that kind of workload. Glad I just drafted him. Yeah, there you go. But yeah, we've been high on Todd Gurley all year and it's because of they don't have anybody else there. So if he is healthy, they're going to give them all that he can handle. He's there on a one year deal Atlanta doesn't care about as long term health they're in. Iran. Them into the ground they're going to give him as much work as his knees can handle he has ready for the theme of the episode. Yes I. Think. So I'll riot we have part two, of F., F. O., tea party Yeeha all out Trivia episode. Love it if you remember from the previous one it. Takes after jeopardy with its own spins, we have five days twenty five questions. Questions vary from one hundred to five hundred points of the double jeopardy in there or two, and then a final jeopardy. Sorry. Last time we actually were called out Matt for not answering jeopardy style. So should we do a little bit better job of that this time saying like who is who is like? Yeah, we got called out I'll do my best. I think I got it on like two or three of them last time. I think that was it like the whole episode of two or three? Okay. We'll call each other out we'll try. Okay. The change on this one though there isn't going to be any negative points. So Matt Puzzles in gets it wrong. Jaiqi might as well take a gas sure co I can accept the lowest I can go to zero. So that's good. Are you gonNA stop reading the question as soon as somebody buzzes do you WanNa, do it that way? Yeah. Okay. So you buzzing with your names you WanNa. Know what the categories are. You. All right. So I'm always helps we have wide load. Wide Receivers what Okay, first round running backs twenty, one, thousand, nine, hundred stat lines records, and dine piece all about quarterbacks. Timepiece Carter. I like it. All right. So you're doing it where if you start reading a question, he buzzes your stopping starting I can't get anything else from that well so he answers incorrectly. Question Perfect. Okay. There we go. I was like well, that's going to be awful but YEP nope. Someone's get anybody want to defer or we want to flip a coin here Jake I'll just let you go first you can pick which category you want. All right. We'll do stat lines for one hundred stat line for a hundred hundred and forty nine receptions Matt Michael Thomas that is correct. I knew. He just beat me to it. I. Didn't give you much time No as soon as he said, I, knew it just didn't named him out I'm at your out stats two, hundred, one, hundred, Fifty, seven targets, ninety, nine receptions, Sixty Julio. ooh Nice, work the categories her of her own stats for three. We already failed my first two questions. All right. Let's get back yard. We'll try now I one, thousand, eight, hundred, four rushing yards sixteen rushing touchdowns Matt. I don't remember how many rushing yards he said sixteen rushing touchdowns he buzzed and you cannot give it's gotta be Aaron Jones. Who is Aaron Jones who is? I like go into the question saying I'm GonNa say who is and then I still forget it. It's fine I think we've acknowledged at this point that we both stink at that part. So we'll we'll move on L. let's do stats for four hundred and one, thousand, one, hundred, fifty, two rushing yards, three touchdowns, J. Matt it's Jake, who is Nick Chub. And now he had way more than that at five. Oh, he had more yards area, right but you only have five touchdowns now, who is Leonard Fournette ago? You answered Leonard and not Lennie. Lennie you. Yeah. You're right answer with Nick. Let's go. Let's I. Mean we might as well just finish it off. Right let's do twenty nine thousand. Five hundred thirty eight field goals attempted who. Throwing a thirty four field goals made forty five extra points made Matt Harrison Bucker. All right. So scored after five questions Matt Thirteen Hundred Jake Two hundred can we just do twenty five questions based on two thousand nine hundred stats? There's a reason I wanted to get that category, I. Okay let's go with first round running backs for one hundred. I have faith in you on these ones jake we'll see Jacksonville 2017. Go, ahead, Jake who is Leonard Fournette. Lot of hesitation there I had to think I was like DC really going to go Leonard Fournette in two different questions but apparently so guess who was ever one hundred or is effort that was one hundred we'll do running backs for two chargers. Jake wow doesn't even want to hear the year Melvin Gordon. Oh come on Tampa. Bay Matt Doug, who has Doug Martin? Are we just GONNA. Maybe try starting the year so he can't do it like this. I on running backs four, hundred, twenty, seven, New Orleans Matt who is Mark Ingram? You guys. Go I on running backs for five hundred pick number five, two, thousand Jake. But then Ian Tomlinson. Tomlinson Tomlinson was two thousand and one Baltimore. Matt. Jamal Lewis. Let's go. So after ten questions, Matt Twenty, five, hundred jake five, hundred sweet jake with category. Board doesn't matter. Let's try. Let's try dime piece. Let's start a big. Let's start for five hundred star at Kentucky drafted by Josh Allen. and New Start. Kentucky drafted by the Browns and had more interceptions than touchdowns, who is Tim coach. Josh Illness Wyoming. superdome. That's all right. It happens in the spur of the moment. Listening at home. This is really easy. It's it's not when you're a spur of the moment thinking you panic a lot had us. We'll go with quarterbacks for four hundred through for at least one touchdown pass in an NFL record fifteen consecutive playoff games, Matt who is Tom Brady? And fifteen consecutive there anymore to that question or like you to readers I. That was a that was a okay. Kinda. Just taking a shot in the dark here. Yeah. As who is Peyton Manning The correct answer is who is Brett Farve? Should've gone with my crush. She was my crutch last time. Jake, you still have control quarterbacks for three. Daily Double-o. You have, one thousand Matt has twenty, five hundred. How much would you like to wager who blew big one I go I'll deal a thousand and only way I'm coming back so all right I can't guess. nope. Committed to Alabama. But decided on East Carolina then transferred to Washington State. Who is Gartner Meshu? I was GonNa say if you got that one raw. No I knew that one had to had to give a little pause for for the effect. So he got two thousand for that one. Yes. Twenty five, hundred to two thousand and that helps yeah we'll go quarterbacks for two hundred recently signed endorsement deals with hunts Oakley Jake Crap said I was thinking said something else was go patrick mahomes throng but. What? Recently. Signed endorsements with deals with hunts, Oakley, state. Farm Direct TV and Adidas Patrick mahomes writer rate. All right. So quarterback last one I think for one hundred you are correct. What's the he lost the Ohio state job to Duane Haskins. Sick Jonesboro. Boroughs like that comeback good category for you. there. Yeah hundred. We have wide load and records left. Let's get. Let's get a score update twenty, five, hundred for Matt Twenty, three, hundred for Jake and that was quite the comeback. Amid. This. Interesting. At least for now, let's do some records. We'll go with a twenty, one five, and in these I'm looking for what the record is. One Zero Five Eric Dickerson's rushing record I'll accept that I was looking for most rushing yards in a season. Okay. That's right Yep. Cool. So none of these are player. GOTCHA Okay. Record is the category Yup. Right yes. That's here's good. Records two hundred. Daily double. No need to go for it. All Senna statement. So this is the only time I can go negative right or can. I. Not even go now you can go negative in this because you're wagering but you can't go like below zero right I don't need to go much here twenty, six, hundred, twenty, three, hundred, Jake let's just go three hundred aren't twenty-three just the number twenty three, twenty, three Michael. Jordan that's gotta be most. touchdowns in a season receiving touchdowns in the season. As a good thing, you clarify because you're not getting that one off the first answer I should've I should've gone more but I don't Wanna I don't WanNa give you anything back. There I met on the board you're up twenty, nine, hundred, twenty, three, hundred. All right. Let's stick with it. We'll go records for three hundred hour ride seven twenty-seven Jake, most passing yards in a game. That sounds like a time. Yeah, I. Don't know think about old school football they probably ran it more but you know stupid records from way back when never know to what else is it had no idea. Let's go most consecutive carries without a fumble and those most pass attempts in a season. Sure. Matthew Stafford Twenty twelve. Okay. I'll accept that Let's go records for four, hundred, sixty, four. Jake most career playoff passing touchdowns. For Effort Sir thanks. Let's go matt most consecutive games with a passing touchdown. Longest, field goal ever made Matt Prater Josh Warner. Didn't Jason Elam hit a sixty four to three people have tied their dot. So I don't know. All right. Let's Let's try records for five hundred. We got that loud I know you said that was really obvious five, fifty four. Matt Most Games coached by a coach. It'd be a lot of games. Most Games coached. I have no idea five, fifty, four, I got nothing. You might as well take i. don't even know what to guest though it's not passing yards in a game. It's not. It's not receiving yards game I doubt at the rushing like I. Don't know what you're getting at here out of most career passing touchdowns. That's like Brett Farr with like five or six avenue is in the fives what I guess you said the right answer. Great most passing yards in a game lead thought it was higher than that. Right after you said that I was like that actually sounds like a pretty that was my I guess but I thought it was like five, seventy nine for some stupid reason I don't know that was the number that was stuck in my head. So I don't know whatever all we've got left his wide low and what do we Lord? Such a good caddick US twenty, nine, hundred, Jake Twenty three hundred records was not a good category still well, within range for I got a big old beg daily doubles are are out ski. So it straight up do final jeopardy yes sir. Perfect. All twenty, three, hundred wide load for three hundred who sure he's. GotTa keep. People. Only player in NFL history to go over two hundred receiving yards twice in opening day. Games Jake. Julio. Jones. Matt, Calvin Johnson Antonio Brown. Randy Moss. Chris Carter, that's enough of that. And Kwan bolden toll master it would've taken to one our forty, five minutes from. A wide load for two hundred. Make It easier in twenty twelve Calvin Johnson broke this person's record for most receiving yards in a single season. Jake Jerus-. Oud. Game folks wide load like saying that category for one hundred rookie wideout caught a record seventeen touchdown. Randy Moss. Straight Castro me her eight cash. homey disappointed. I'M NOT WEARING HIS Jersey today decided to go baseball. So not we're in the rainy moss one analyst here mistake it was wide load four hundred he really does like in that category. Save the best for last apparently, Minnesota Viking wide receiver was born by the name. Bobby. Moore tougher shared manages say Matt Right. Oh. This is a matt thing. Yeah. I. Don't know this one. Robert Moore. Rashad Ahmed or whatever and I have no idea that was really closet was Ahmad Rashad Ding it. I remember yeah. That has all right. Let's go into the last why load five hundred wide Lewd Jake can take the lead here. Let's see what happens was the only wide receiver drafted with the first overall pick in the nineties matt was Marvin Harrison. Scott. Jerry Rice. Yeah. keyshawn Johnson really. Good for him by the jets or the jets well, good for him. All right that wraps up regular F. F. O. Tea Party Matt is in the Lead Twenty Nine Hundred Jake Twenty six hundred. How confident we feel in going into final F- O. OT party I made this actually very close. So I'm really happy with his performance so far, but I am going to take this home I'm GonNa. Win this one I dunno, I'm feeling pretty good. If Jake nosy answer I think I'm GonNa know it. So it just comes down to how much I'm going to bid here. Sure. Let's see what it is for. Sure. So why don't you guys go ahead and text me or wagers here I do get to know like any form of this category is at all or no sure let's go uniforms. Oh Chassis on our wager I hear Yup all I got Matt's come on Jake do the math. It sent I'll ride. So the question is this team features their logo on only one side of their helmet to go ahead and text text me those answers Oh. Okay. I'm pretty confident. This one I think I know it. It's between two teams right now mind sent. K. The like the confidence mine is sent I really do we what do we want to? We want to do the wages I wanted the answer first we'll do the answer I. Well, let's do the wager first because if we get the answer and I get it right and all that I'm GonNa win well, we'll start with Jacob wagered twenty, six, hundred Louis went at all. At all. Yeah. Because otherwise, if you just do the math, you can come out ahead styles and he got the answer. Correct. I sure. Hope you put what I put. So Jake is up to fifty two, hundred point. Do you WanNa tell me your answer and I can tell you if you're. Wagered Twenty six, a one share. WHO's? Just tell me he got it wrong. Let's see here. Oh, verizon is slowly load in here come. Man, you wagered way too much. So you know why? Because he's only at fifty two hundred, you only needed to wager. You could have done twenty thirty at twenty, three, zero, one window made a difference. Okay. You got the answer you answered the steelers you're right For some reason I was thinking either steelers cowboys, and then I just got like an image in my head of Dez Bryant with both sides helmet and I went steelers. That's an accurate. Yes. Visual that you had steelers. So Matt wins by a slim margin great performance jake thank you. That was solid and we only got like what six maybe seven questions wrong and total throughout the whole thing I mean the records was pretty bad. But yeah. Yeah. The records in the wide load. Kinda hit us but solid solid. Questions, those made us think awesome. What we on our next episode YEP solid episode. Taylor. Thanks for putting that together. It's always a lot of fun. You don't like giving your hand and Trivia but we appreciate all that you do for our next episode. We doing our final mock draft big wager on this one right there is. Yes. So we're going to do it best ball style. We're doing super flex or anything just normal with maybe like eight benchmarks or something. Yep. Full PBR about age ben spots kicker. Super flags here at of it all Yup. We'll draft from the seven, eight, nine, Spot, each one, hundred, seven, two, random whatever it picks. You think. So yeah, let's do random guess we're back to back to back last time I. Know I was the most fair. All right we'll do Raynham this time we'll see what happens and we are wagering this one. Let's hope West way to tell them what the wager is. It's it's pretty exciting. Cool. Pretty cold. You'll find out in the next episode. Yeah, that's a good on. It's pretty cold the chilly. There you go. There's. A preview for next except. So make sure you tune in but if you have any questions anything, you can find us on twitter at F. F. O. T. podcast I I do have one question. Are you planning on throwing like a surprise party for me when I hit the twenty victory mark and Trivia next week is that high I think we're up to nineteen well, think about it okay I. Like frozen ice cream cake from dairy Queen Ooh Fudgy Oreo. Goodness you don't have to let you know if you wanted to if you're already planning on it but moving. Thank. You so much for listening. Make sure you like subscribe leave us a review on Apple PODCASTS spotify wherever you listen to your podcasts. Thanks. You saw. That I.

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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 5/6/20--Guest Kenny McPeek

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 5/6/20--Guest Kenny McPeek

"Narrow maximum security has been defeated for. This is the Jason Beam Racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires your daily home for Horse Racing News interviews wagering discussions and more. Here's your host Jason. Be around good Wednesday morning. You are. Welcome to the Jason Horse Racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires twin spires a proud proud sponsor of the show. Happy but with you here on this may the sixth and look forward to what will be a little bit of a par- up show. I mentioned yesterday. He didn't hear Had some tremendous audio difficulties with with Kenny. Mcpeek during our interview and they all seem to be coming from my end and Kenny was remarkably patient. We had to do like four call. Backs try tried restarting. I tried doing all this stuff and toward the end it started happening again. There's a few spots so I'm GonNa play what I got the interview. It's probably ten minutes but there's a few spots where it Kinda cuts out for. Just a second which is honestly to annoying. But it's annoying but it's not. It's not all that bad but toward the end it got real bad one or two times and I just can't. I'm so sorry I know you're busy guy. And he was very gracious about the whole thing and I still think he had some good things to say about his fantasy stakes winner. From this past week's with skydivers. We'll talk about that race. There was a lot of talk afterwards. You know the big favourite was was a harbor who was well backed and went pretty quick. Upfront and Swiss skydiver. Kenna came to her but then Venetian harbour. Dug in before was skydiver kind of propelled at the end prevailed at the end and. I don't know that there's this thought that you know if the horse would have slowed down a little bit that there would have had more late which is entirely possible. I mean that's you know the fundamentals of pace handicapping our if you know if you go slower earlier able to have more late and if you go faster. Lee sometimes you get worn out late and therefore the closers pick you up. But I don't know that it's necessarily all that true that if a horse ran you know to fifth slower and backed it up just a little instead of maybe running off or You know that would make that much of a difference a mile into a race when it's down to a showdown between two horses. Kinda just gotten it out for the last you know sixteenth eighth of a mile. I mean theoretically it should but I just don't know if that's the case like You know I just feel that. I know there's a lot of things going to a race but I don't know that Venetian harbour slowing down a touch or to make real difference in the end. I know it. I know you want to think that it does and it may have well have but I don't know that it's that. Was that much of a difference between winning and not winning this particular and Venetian harbour is still a very lightly raced horse and she picked up. Some much-needed oaks points and I to think that her connections are you fine with where they're at and where they're heading but so we won't play the Kenny mcpeek interview here in just a few moments. I am going to do another segment of race. I Love I. We'RE GONNA go back to two thousand five to Hollywood park. I've talked about this race times because it's an important race to me personally but we'll replay the audio as well and the audio is the important part to me but the race itself. I thought just had a lot of neat things going on with it during it and after it. So we'll talk about the two thousand five American oaks at Hollywood park a coming up a little bit later also WanNa take a little look at the. Ntr a pole that's right the NPR. A poll is out and I've always said it's not really something I mean I. I don't care about vote in it but it's you know sometimes fun to talk about. I used to have a a segment called hating on the N. T. R. A. And had its own. Music will well. I really went all out with the production on on that one but You know the reason I wanNA at least talk about the NTR. A poll in this instances because it is the three zero one. I think a is kind of easy to do right now. Because we're still in that progressing toward the Derby and the Derby obviously will change all of that and I guess the Belmont could if it if it happens beforehand and I know rumors. Are THAT IRIS? Trying to get back going around Memorial Day weekend. So we'll see what they decide to do with the Belmont. I saw Baffert came out and said that he he wouldn't run it if it was a mile and a half Jewish. It's funny because it is a mile and a half in June. Normally like you know that's the normal thing and you'd honestly be coming into it off more rest because it's not like his horses would be running in the preakness in two weeks. Even though they ran on Derby Day in the Arkansas Derby. But you know I mean. He was asked the question and he answered it. And you know for years. We saw Bobby. Frankel kind of use his power to kind of you know sway away from weights and handicap divisions like. He would make a big deal out of any threatened scratch and tracks tracks want to have the superstars in their big races. And they obviously want to have Bobby Frankel in their big races and his it was his way of kind of I think Not only maybe getting something done for that particular race but in the future to like the Weights Committee or whoever decides in the way sometimes. It's just the racing secretary Sometimes there is a full committee. I was part of the Committee of Portland Meadows and You know they might. They might know how God if we make this horse. One twenty five instead of one. Twenty three bobby. Frankel is GONNA make noise about it. And he's GonNa Scratch and you know so you. Kinda plant that seed. I almost wondered if you know Baffert like I said he was answering the question but I wonder if he's kind of like trying to plant the seed like. Hey if we want these superstar baffert horses. Who are two of the. He's got three of the top four in the N. T. R. E. poll right now. Tis The laws. The only non baffert in the top four Kim Guillermo at five watching that race again we talked about it. Monday of course but Watching the second division that Arkansas Derby I can gear Moran Great Man. I really think he. You know backed up his Tampa Bay Derby and It did make dolls re kick look a little bit more impressive to because I was maybe focusing on Kim gear that time but honore P and six solve Allante and Ian Max Field. Rumor is he possibly Will be making an appearance in the Matt Win at Churchill Week to The fact he's still on the top ten is pretty interesting. I think it speaks to a the maybe lack of depth right now in this three year old division because as I said when we had Brennan on a couple of weeks ago sometimes not running is the best thing in terms of rating and public perception. You haven't proven you're you're going to lose. I mean that's you know when you look at a bad maiden race a lot of times you get horses who have run five six seven eight nine ten twenty times you know. Sometimes you look to the new shooter simply because they haven't proven how bad they are and I'm obviously Mac. `field is proven that. He's a very talented runner. But you know. He did that early middle of his two year old season. We haven't seen him since then so he's still getting some street cred based on. I think people projecting that he might be good but We really won't know until we see him back to the racist but I had no as far as hating on the a poll segment. I had no real strong opinions on the the three year olds because I feel like right. Now they're kind of easy to to rank. The top thoroughbred poll is is is interesting because maximum security is like this big asterisk in there right. He seventh and total points. But he's second in first place votes and he would be first in. First Place Votes. He'd be a landslide first place votes if it wasn't for you know what came out about. Jason surface so obviously some of the voting committee is still perplexed. I think I saw that. He was back in training. Now with. And it's GonNa be weird to see the new maximum security Post Post Service. I I mean I can't imagine baffert would a run him if he didn't think he was ready to do something. Good but also you know. I just don't imagine the horse was running bad for for Baffert but we'll see he's ranked seventh right now. Overall Thomas Day todd at six seems a little bit odd have been. I don't object to that at all. Muccio Gustav that one. I kinda have questions about but by my standards ahead of Tom's Day. Todd seems of interesting and Zulu Alpha still up. There you know cece moved all the way up to fifth ahead of Tom Day. Todd I guess that one Perplexes me as well but Whitmore at eight Mr Freeze night. Code of Honor Tenth WanNa tells me to as I mean we are. We are very void of superstars right now because these are literally the top horses running aside from three year olds and some Nice Horses. Good quality horses all that kind of stuff but Outside of midnight be Su. I can't really and maybe maximum security. I mean there are to me. There's not there's not very many horses that You know put put butts in seats so to speak Know Big names and all that kind of stuff they obviously have time to carve that out but part of carving out being a big name is is against some other big names right. I mean even you know Songbird who was very very good you know. She got beat by beholder but to me she kind of proved or metal a little bit that day because she really dug in against you know who? We had kind of assumed in called a atop kind of runner so You know I know all that the polls and stuff are in the end. Don't mean a whole lot but sometimes it's fun to talk about. Let's take a quick time out. We'll do just one little commercial and Kenya. Mcpeek will join us. As I mentioned it will be a little bit chopped up and I really really apologized. Not only to you guys but to Kenny about it but We did have a good chat for what we did get in. So we'll do that right. After this short break Jason Horseracing podcast brought to you by twin. Spires twin spires is your home for wagering on horse racing from all around the world. Sign up today and take advantage of our one dollars. Sign up bonus when you wager. Five hundred dollars has a twin spires player. You'll receive free Brisbane at past performances. Live video race replays. Realtime racing information and much more plus you can now split tickets with other players using bet share program on twin spires that allows players to split their vets with other members for more information visit twin spires dot com all right here on the horse racing. Podcast pleased to welcome in our next guest. Whose VOLT book graded stakes winning trainer. Who this past week settled so skydiver to a winning the Green. Three fantasy stakes. Please welcome back. Kenny mcpeek to the show. Kenny how are you? I'm doing super. Thank you appreciate you coming on a big score for your philly. You posted some pictures so I was assuming you're on track how how surreal was watching a race like that with like twenty people around you. Yes definitely unusual You you're so used to having a huge crowd especially oaklawn and You know for them to unfortunate but It's a great place to go racing and I think they did a good job. On under the circumstances she She sat behind the favourite early on and I thought Brian Road tactically very good race. Kinda snuck up into second on that I turn and then went to apply pressure. Were you happy with where she was throughout the early stages of the race in which she kind of wear you expected her to be she was able to enter. I start she wiggled or in. Traffic came from next to last and one off easily so we knew we knew she could do it on. I think there were those that thought that the race at Gulfstream was kind of anomaly. In the she she got the easy lead and she's This phillies very professional. She's last three races. Going to turns have been per alley. Can you mention her her win? In the Gulfstream Park folks and people thinking. It was kind of an anomaly and I think lot of people were surprised at the speed. She showed that Dan pocket. I thought was brilliant. That day Was that a new dimension. She showed for you or were you kind of expecting that day for her to be out front. Well we had runner. Short Sheelah D- Pack especially in the race at Tampa. She really probably should have won that day. And she got off a step slow and then she had to circle the field wide and only gets beat about a length and Absorb frustrating and that. We think she should have won that day but then from there was okay. Look we've gotTA get straight to to turns because we all know that the big races are two turns and most people don't realize that the stakes program in Florida isn't very conducive to finding to turn race for three year old filly They run the Devonian Dale Short at Gulfstream IV actually employee raises but the only one of auction was the son Costa Tampa. We mow to in it too so It's a situation where we had. The shipper had shepherd fairgrounds to run in the in the race. There I believe it was the silver bullet that day or forgetting The name of that one. But anyway we shipped over there then we had to had to Chip BACK DOWN TO GULFSTREAM ship. All over the board And but she's handled it really. Well she actually drive doing it. So quite proud of everything she's accomplished and I still think You were hunting for grade. One from here her I want to talk about her development in the sense that you know her debut last fall. Churchill's took a lot of money. It was a big field. Were you expecting what you saw from? Her debut was fantastic. Yeah her She had worked lights out going into that and that was one of those restricted money racist because she had run Awry Bader for thirty thousand so yeah so so that so that condition was was unique but she got that done easy enough and and then I was going to go to terms with her. But couldn't get A to turn race distill and we were hunting and hunting and hunting for two. Turner Right. It just didn't happen so we ran our one mile to act the seven eight and You know it's Since we've gone longer the better she does. You made some news. After the fantasy noting you might consider overseas trip with her with with everything pushed back in a lot uncertain. I imagined the plotting of schedules and stuff now is very unique for you guys. The schedules are moving target. Right now. You really just don't know because of everything happening and you know I think she's a Philly that will take to the term for that any trouble Now there's nothing listed in the US that she could point of any significance and the fact that a lot of their horses are going to be coming off Layoffs they haven't been running so we're GONNA be at a competitive advantage but We've got a lot of logistics works to figure out on that That shouldn't be terribly difficult. I've done it before Wesleyan I've worked together. I was sleeping and then Wesley Certainly perfected the trip And I've run well over there but I haven't won and it might be an opportunity to do something unique. Yeah I would think that knowing that you have the points and obviously you have the first Friday in September you know kind of spot guaranteed there. I mean I imagine that does help at least because you have a poll in the distance of kind of where you WANNA be in. Be Peaking and stuff well if she's training as well as she did going into this go A trip like that. I don't think so out of the question. I mean the euro's come over and back to run an eye races all the time. We just don't tend to go their direction very often. Hansa phillies value dramatically. If you can pull something like this all to prove that she can run on turf dirt. Medica- no medication. When you end up Bringing hurt auction or any of her foals dogs. And then I think you'll get people's attention and or worldwide attention and Peter Callahan's a guy that that that understands that he's bread Top horses and then evariste worldwide. And so he gets the big picture and and he seems at this point up for we've got like I said we've got some logistics to work out and figure out the timing and the details but It's possible we're going to see we're GONNA look at all really close. Can you repeat you on his here on the program? I know you've been primarily running horses at Gulfstream Park. The last few weeks are. Are You staying down in Florida? Are you still basing in Kentucky Right now well Guess yes The you know I spend about twenty straight years based at Gulfstream and then came back into Kentucky just firing away and young horses route Florida to shift it over to Gulf st or. I'm sorry shift over to Oakland for four or five seasons and had a had a over there that there with his young verses We made a an effort on that and it didn't work out. So I've shifted my tax per se back to Florida and And then we ship out of that base I own own summerfield training center and in Just south of Ocala. And we've got all our young horses there and then we've got the main division at Gulfstream but those horses are getting ready to rotate to towards Can All those details right now? Speaking of a Gulfstream Park you send out an envelope I I said that right To a fourth place. Finish in the honey Ryder. This weekend I know she debuted on the grass broke maiden last time out on the dirt. Had you been wanting to get back on the turf with that runner you're primarily Berkeley We couldn't get the to turn to go so we went in the grass We got the to turn race ago and in and that worked out well and she remained easily then we entered into fantasy because she was going to run as an entry was Wiscon- diver and she was to get excluded. So we after over to the Gardenia and she did get excluded there and then they had five scratches which is a little frustrating and then and then it was like okay. We've got her teed up. But where do we go? So we put her in the race at Gulfstream and I don't like the way pace of that race. Unfold for I I think that that we could have done a little better job tactically either way. It unfolded I think a little too aggressive going into the first turn. It didn't show much patience and we talked about that race But but now she'll shift back to the dirt and I'm probably going to take a little time with her and you'll probably see surface in June or July depending on timing. I think she's a Philly. That's got to run in I think she could be an oaks. Philly I mean she. She's she's shown she's got that kind of talent but at the the pattern hadn't fallen right in place on her as far as getting to regular dirt routine to turns. Well unfortunately this is where the audio really Kinda went. Bad and I tried to piece that together as much because I thought Kenny had some some good information and I just I so appreciate time like I said he was very patient and we tried to make it work in the the connection was just dropping out too much and it started getting real bad so we will get Kenny on another time. But really really appreciate his time and his What's the word I'm looking for patients? You know we're all I mean we're just we're all subject to the technology we have and it's It's working behavior at that particular time. Unfortunately it's going to happen every so often but Can't Kenny enough and we will be right back. After this short time out for little episode of Race I love coming up next here on a Wednesday edition of the Jason horseracing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires twin spires not only offers the best way to play the racist from your desktop or mobile device. But we also have great offers for our players visit twinspires.com slash offers to check out all of our great daily promotions from our players. Pick FOUR BONUSES TO WIN. Sheri- thoroughbred to harnessed we have offers and promotions for all types of races and all types of tracks visit twin spires dot com slash offers to find out what operas are available to You. Jason Beam horseracing. Podcast brought to you by twin spires. Is Your home for daily thoroughbred horse racing conversation? Join host Jason Bean. Has He discusses racing from around the country interviews jockeys trainers media personality and horse players every Monday through Friday. The show can be found at twin spires DOT COM or on. Itunes spreaker stitcher or wherever you get your podcast from the Jason Beam racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires are once again my thanks to Kenny mcpeek. And appreciate his time in the policies. You guys Indicating for having a kind of piece together that interview with the The technical issues we had We're GONNA do the erase. I love segment here in a moment but I wanted to mention an article that Matt Haggerty who we had on the show last week wrote about Per Race handle rising one hundred sixty four percent in April and the article basically says the. Us held seven hundred forty six races in April decline of seventy one percent But per race handle of course up significantly and it's very obvious number. I mean we know that there's way less track. So therefore you have the same or maybe a little bit less of betters now forced to wager on literally six or seven products so you know the the range of supply is diminished and therefore the demand at each of those places goes up and so Not surprised by that. I think you know there's been a lot of talk over the years about whether consolidation would be a good thing for racing at this point and I think that it. I think that this virus going to do that to a lot of industries. I think racing will not be untouched by that. I think so far. The only track that is literally shuttered. Because of this was a a greyhound track up Ermington Greyhound but you know harness obviously is there you know everybody starting to talk about picking up and going again and running again and it seems like each day. We're seeing another track. That's kind of cemented. Their plans and I think part of that momentum is you know it just took one or two places to kind of you know. Take a step out and say look. We're going to try to start this day. And you know makes you know the first step is always the the first person across the the line is always the one that has to deal with the most Blowback and so. We're GONNA start seeing that in other sports as well but I saw Louisiana announced. They're gonNA open June six. They're not going to run the Super Derby this year. I obviously wanted to have that person. Money for their folks who support their card On a daily basis in terms of But it'll be interesting to see if if contraction is accelerated a little bit you know because of a the slot reliable tracks relying on the slot machines and stuff for their funding for purses and all that but also You know if if some tracks just don't survive what's going to be a has been and is probably going to be for a while a tough economic situation and You know we've seen that one of the byproducts of less tracks running has been field-sized jumping up. I mean every race had oakland for weeks. There was a full field and Okla generally have pretty good fields but early in the meet. There's a lot of sixes sevens and eights and stuff in there and you couldn't you couldn't even sniff a Tan. It seemed like outside of the Arkansas is of course but You know I don't WanNA I. I Never WanNa see race tracks close. I WanNa see the sport grow. I don't know that the growth in racing in terms of field sizes. Obviously I mean you see the year to year decrease in number of full so tell that starts correcting itself because owners breeders and stuff can make some money You know I don't know that. Were going to Nazi contraction. Because you know having to bet five four. Six horsfield's is just not entertaining for for bettors. It's not a good betting proposition And it's a hard game to beat with the takeout. What it is as it is so when you multiply that by less numbers of combinations and stuff it just makes for a a not great recipe. I've definitely been a little more pessimistic. That's the last couple of weeks days. I do think this entire thing is an opportunity for a bit of a revolution in terms of how the game the gaming part of the game is structured. And maybe you know try to incentivize our players to play more by charging less or by offering a better product or both God forbid so we'll see if I mean I'm like I said I'm not. I'm not hopeful that change will be spurred by that but you know hopes Kind of one of the only things we got so we got we got to. We have to try to stick it out. I'm trying to put on a smiley face so race. I love let's Let's let's do the intro. It's a slow racing day therefore time to go back in the old time traveler. To a race I love love that Generic heavy metal music that royalty free not copyrighted heavy metal music race. I love well. We'RE GONNA go back to two thousand and five which oddly enough is the same year of our last race. I love so so far. I'm two for two in fact The two races themselves were only about a month and a half apart Maybe I'll have to branch out next week when we go. Maybe go somewhere a little more modern or maybe maybe even a little bit older. Who knows but we go back to July. The third so July third here in Seattle is the Emerald Bounced Fireworks Night They always do their big fireworks show. It's the biggest one in the Kent Auburn Valley on July third. And then you know everybody else obviously does it on. The fourth doesn't matter what day of week it is. They do it on July third. It's become a big tradition and has been for quite a while and on that day I was down at Emerald downs. But they weren't starting until later on in the evening. I think the racist started at like five or five thirty and so I got there early. I went out to the quarter shoot cafe. Which is the backstretch cafe? Sally Sally Joe Steiner owned and operated there too of just the sweetest people in the world and it's a great backstretch cafe like have you can go out there in the morning. It's open to the public. You can watch the horses. Come and go onto the track and it's it's pretty awesome part of of Emerald downs history so But I went out there because that was where the simulcasting was open. And my Buddy Ben root who was a trainer had been out of his barn and I worked my way back into the cafe and it was about fifteen minutes to post for the grade. One American oaks now. The American oaks was kind of a new race in two thousand and five at had just been created a couple of years earlier. I think it was I ran in two thousand and two. In fact the great megahertz one go a mile and a quarter in two minutes point. Four six but You know she was obviously a really really good. One helped launch this race into becoming a grade one pretty early on its existence. It was A mile and a quarter on the grass. It was kind of a late Season Hollywood park has obviously del Mar. Would starting just a few weeks. It was usually a little bit just before the Gold Kappa. Phi Remember correctly but You know like I said a race that it was was pretty new to the scene and had already generate some interesting buzz and their big thing was. They wanted to get runners from overseas and this particular edition Drew several Single lease a Great Britain bread Lewis Line from Ireland bread three degrees in Irish Bred Irish Bred Silver Cup Sweet firebird and other Irish Brett. Great Britain beds silken scarlet irish-bred. Hallo dream and the Japanese bred Cesario. Who was going to be the CO second choice? The favorite in this race was affiliate Mellor and Miller. India was coming over from New York. And Back East. Bobby Frankel Stud TNT You know they they. They paid one hundred twenty. Five thousand four her at keeneland September and she breaks her maiden at Belmont Park in her first career start rallies from from mid pack on the grass and doesn't only win wins going away by and a half at odds of seven to one. So you got a little bit of price on this Bobby Frankel First-timer so she goes on to win the Miss Grillo stakes at Belmont. They give her the rest of the winter off. She comes back a three year. Old Wins the Appalachian stakes. Lynn follows that up with a score in the sands point stakes grade. Three at Belmont Park on Belmont weekend. I think it was right. It might have even been Belmont Day but That same weekend the first weekend in June one at two to five rallied from off the pace. I mean just had been crushing her opponent. She comes into this. American oaks her first trip out west and we know Franken had spent some time out West but she ends up going off as you're sixty five favorite in this spot Johnny Velazquez coming over to ride. It's interesting looking back at the chart. Garrett Gomez riding single EAS Rene Douglas Lewis Line Jerry Bailey riding three degrees. I mean the Gary Stevens. Alex Sali's Corey Nakatani David Florez P. Vowel ON LONGSHOT. Hallowed Dream You Fukunaga the writer are before the race started. I liked Osario as a bet and before the race started. I remember talking to fixed offer on the show years ago and Vick said that you know this horse. Kinda was washed out and running off and if you watch. Tv G has some coverage of this race on Youtube. And if you watch like she warms up a damn near full sprint. Like it's it's crazy. How much intent. She's working going. I remember Victoria Me. That you know he was really kinda shocked with how vigorously they were warming up and how hot. She was getting and she was breaking from the far outside post. She's breaking in the twelve post a mile and a quarter race at Hollywood so they would start in that far far. Shoot and so not the best of Of Post position for this one mellor. I in drew perfectly in a post five. You know she had kind of a come from behind style and you know really was looking to go five for five and submit herself as As kind of the you know the Star three-year-old Tur- Philly in the country at this point so the reason that this race is so special to me is I remember as I sat and watched this in the quarter shoot cafe vicks call of the race to me is as close to perfect as a race call could get He's he's his timing his pitch his everything. He doesn't miss a single thing in the race. It's just step by step by step this perfect gradual build and SS. Reo comes off the top of the stretch and really starts to open up. You know his call just builds with that and I still to this day. I've heard this race and watch this race hundred times. Maybe more. The hair on my arms still stands up. And that's what happened when I was in the quarter shoot cafe On just never forget. I was watching it. It was kind of raised. Tv Some looking up at it and like the hair on my arms just stood up and it's just such an amazing race call and entertaining race. So here's a listen back to the American oaks two thousand five the Great Cesario. They're good start scenario in single EAS from their outside post show speed. That's what I mean and is. Let cozine close up at the rail. Three degrees is mid pack alongside hallowed dream to the outside Silken scarlet and Silver Cup. Lewis Line has to check briefly off forces mellor second to last early and the trailer is sweet. Firebird cozine take charges. They hook up with the main course and Islam. Cozine is now three lengths in front of. That's what mean in second says. Reo Is well-placed. For Japan. She is third only in the two path from the twelve twelfth hole as they race at the clubhouse turn a length and a half to member read who is fourth in on the front end is look cozine trying to win the American right here. And now she's five lengths in front single eas how low dream and Silken scarlet or next. They're all about nine from the front three degrees mellor. I ended up to the BACKSTRETCH AND LOUIS. Line all eleven lengths from the front. Silver Cup is already pushed along thirteen from the lead. And if sweet firebird ends the fourth American oak she'll make up fifteen lengths in four and a half furlongs. Islah cozine tries to slow it down to the half-mile pole. But that's what I mean and Caesaria will have none of that and that's what I mean has taken over the lead that's all for is let cozine drops back his second. Sorry who is in perfect striking position. Now just a neck from the front single lease memorandum. Lewis Line has passed several. Here's Lewis Line up into fourth but length and a half to Laura into WHO's got a long way to comments says. Reo takes charge at the top of the stretch and says reo has opened up a big lead. She has four lengths in front of singles in second then comes. That's what I mean. Laura India's eight legs from the Japanese superstar Dario Tosari Oh stretch. She's running off their feet. Likes him figure elise how you get in a second? But no way that she touched the winner says reo win the fourth American jobs mellor solidly defeated in second single as third and three degrees. Finish for it. It's just so great. It's so great so Zari. Oh running them off their feet password. Stretch so Zari I. I get chills. The during the whole call it's so great The reason it's also so special to me is literally the next day. I went to the sporting store by my house and they were having a fourth of July sale and I bought a pair of Leopold binoculars that my friend Chris Carpet. Neto had recommended because he used them hunting. And I started. I went up to the grandstanded. Emerald and I sat in a friend's box. I didn't pay for and I would just kind of called the races under my breath and I remember after I did that I go you know I kinda could. I think I can kind of this. And at the time I was memorizing them via the Celtics are the saddle towel. And you know. I didn't really know what I was doing it but I knew that I wanted to do it and I could do it and I wanted to. I wanted to feel what I felt when vic called that race like every day and every race and I spent the next six months practicing every chance I could get at Emerald and then down at Portland and it was actually. It was literally about six months from that day. I got to call my first race because it was January. Eighth of two thousand six. A Colt named sue down at Portland Meadows so That race will just always be so special me of course as REO would go on to have a very good breeding career. She produced a couple of really nice horses including a Japanese Think at Japanese champion. Three year old filly of the year. A couple years later has had a couple of Of Good Offspring Mellor. Linda was never quite the same she. She went on mean she ran a good third and the Beverley D. Had A disappointing effort in the flower bowl later that year and then would win the potty stakes at Belmont Park. I hope I'm saying that right might be capitals but had to Ended up retiring after that She had been off for nine months before winning that capital steaks and so not sure exactly what happened but went to her retirement with Five wins from eight starts. Four hundred eighty three scenario would never run again. Suffered an injury and was a bread after that but That one afternoon in July at Hollywood park she was just some kind of brilliant and it is certainly a race. I love so I appreciate guys indulging me on this little segment. I'm having fun with it while we have a little bit of a shortage in racing and so looking forward to probably doing it the next couple of Tuesdays or Wednesdays till we start to pick it up live racing more so but of course. Tampa's returning today Gulfstream's back Thursday and sort. You're getting into another racing weekend. We'll start talking more about those races as we go tomorrow horse player Thursday Valente. The Track Phantom is going to join US looking forward to having the jury on on Friday. And we'll get you ready for the upcoming weekend Appreciate the emails. Keep those come. Jason Charles Bima gmail.com getting some good ones and What I really love about some of the emails. I'm getting his people reflecting and looking at their own horse playing and asking questions and talking about the things they're trying or doing and Love to see those kind of conversations happening. I don't think they happen enough so All Forum Jason Charles Bima no dot Com. We will see you guys back here tomorrow. Everybody have a great rest of your Wednesday.

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Equine Forum - May 23rd 2020

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Equine Forum - May 23rd 2020

"From the rail to your radio this is the horse racing radio network by unfurling laid at six. Think outside second portable still regard plumbing. Please don't duck either way. Victory Cal Buddies Kobe. Real quiet give leg-weary victory of real ways to one hundred twenty the Kentucky Derby Welcome to the equine forum presented by foreign paint dot com for outside of run. Jack About Giacomo. Surging ALEX CLOSING ARGUMENT. All those finals dog to win. Derby won thirty-one traffic final time Terry. Now here's Mike. Hello everyone a very pleasant good morning and once again. Welcome to the show. That launched a network. This is the forum presented all month long farm paint DOT com here on the Horse Racing Radio Network. Mike Baron of the backstretch happy to have all of you tuning in across North America on Sirius to nineteen. Xm To a one on our affiliates in Lexington Louisville and across the country and all of you listening digitally. You're doing that on our website at horse racing radio DOT net. Will you know there's certainly no shortage of headlines in thoroughbred racing this past week the big one of course involving the Belmont stakes which for the first time in history will be contested as the first leg of the triple crown and will be run at eight significantly shorter distance of a mile and an eighth as opposed to the mile? And a half that we're used to seeing. I'll talk more about that in just a minute. In other news racing secretary Ben Huffman and his team at Churchill downs have put together just an unbelievably tremendous eleven race card this afternoon if features five stakes races including the grade. Three Matt Win where we're GONNA see undefeated grade one winner. Max `field make his highly anticipated three year. Old debut in the colors of Godolphin it. I'll visit with Jimmy Bell the president of Godolphin. Us operations coming up in just a little bit at eight fifteen eastern. We'll talk to him about Max `field and about all GMS who is going to take on sharing returns in the one hundred thousand dollar Tappin. Stakes sharing the winner of the breeders. Cup Juvenile fillies turf will be making her three year old debut later today to and that should be a lot of fun to watch Graham motion. Her trainer will be with me at nine o'clock eastern that card by the way at Churchill also offers a five hundred thousand dollar guaranteed all stakes pick five races seven through eleven so something for horse players to look forward to speaking pick FIS by the way and speaking of news of the Week. Charlestown announced this week that they will now be offering horse players. A fifty cent pick five on the last five races of the card with a ridiculously low twelve percent takeout. A Horse Players Delight. If you're a pick five player and if nobody selects all five winners seventy. Five percent of the pool is carried over to the next racing program so kudos to West Virginia to Charlestown for putting that together Our friends at Keeneland here in the bluegrass made some headlines This Week. Applying to run for a short five day summer meet. This is pretty cool. July eighth to the twelfth here in Lexington. That's going to allow them to schedule. Ten graded stakes which are traditionally run. During the April meet which of course had to be cancelled due to all of the concerns would covid nineteen the great to Bluegrass in the grade. One Ashland would be part of a unbelievable card on July eleventh and the Breeders Cup by the way still on schedule to be contested at keeneland November sixth and seventh in the first Breeders Cup challenge race in the US. Going to be held at Santa Anita coming up on Monday Memorial Day eleven horses have been entered into the grade. One shoemaker mile a win and you're in for the Breeders Cup Mile I'll be joined by Breeders Cup Executive Vice President of racing nomination store at Delgado at nine forty eastern time this morning toward the end of the program. She'll give you an update on where things stand with that challenge series now would tracks like. Belmont starting to at least announce their stake schedules. We've got a little bit of an idea of what we're looking at those racist she'll give you an update coming up. Nine forty eastern Ruidoso. Downs kicked off their meat yesterday and they run through Labor Day which is when they will host the most famous quarter horse race that you see in the sport the three million dollar grade one all American futurity and I'll be joined eight thirty five eastern time by General Manager. Jeff through to look ahead to what you can expect it. That rude Ruidoso downs meet Promises to be a blockbuster meet as always and this. Of course it's Memorial Day weekend a time to remember all of those who have made the ultimate sacrifice and service to our country and who better to reflect on the true meaning of Memorial Day than West Point graduate and founder of West Point thoroughbreds. Terry Finley I'll talk to him nine twenty eastern time so busy two hours coming up Jimmy Bell from Godolphin Eight fifteen eastern Jeff true from Ruidoso. Downs eight thirty five eastern time. Graham Ocean at Nine o'clock Terry Finley nine twenty two and Dora Delgado to wrap up program at nine forty. Of course our industry star of the week presented by Morris in between all of that so We're GONNA cover a lot of ground for you here this morning. That to the triple crown for a minute and the announcement from Belmont Park that the Belmont will be run June twentieth. Am I the only one disappointed that our sport couldn't come together to create a fall triple crown poker? Would that have been of course? It would required all three tracks working together. Which doesn't often happen in our sport and sadly it didn't happen here either. Churchill downs announced in March. They were the first ones they announced. In March that the Kentucky Derby would be Labor Day weekend Saturday September fifth the stronach group announced last Saturday that the preakness would be rescheduled for October. Third a month after the Kentucky Derby and then this past week naira the final domino to fall announce that their decision to run the Belmont stakes on Saturday June twentieth. And they would cut the distance mile and a half two mile an eighth in order to do that. So for the first time in history the will be run as the first race in the series of the triple crown. You know that doesn't bother me. And the reduced distance doesn't bother me as it did so many people who reacted out social media after the news came out this week. But if you're GONNA run the race four weeks from today then yet you have to cut the distance from a mile and a half because you you. You can't get a horse ready on short notice like this to go a mile and a half and do it safely and the Belmont by the way hasn't always been running a mile and a half. It was running a mile and an eighth in eighteen ninety three and eighteen ninety four. Now I know we're going back a ways that was at Morris Park. It was initially run in Eighteen. Sixty seven at a mile and five eight so the distance doesn't concern me and I think that the move to shorten the race considering it soon be run June twentieth. The right the right decision my issue with this whole thing is with the timing of the triple crown races and again. The only one disappointed that our sport couldn't come together to create a fall triple crown with a more traditional scheduling of the three races. The Belmont on June twentieth leaves US eleven weeks for the second of the triple crown the Derby on September eleven weeks and another four weeks to the last leg the preakness. I'm sorry but that is not a triple crown and if a horse. We've all three races this year. I don't see any way that you consider that horse a true triple crown winner and it's not because that the races are being run out of order but it's because of the timing of the three races and keep in mind the triple crown hasn't always been Derby preakness. Belmont thousand nine hundred thirty gallant Fox won the preakness eight days later. He took the Derby as the second leg and completed the triple crown three weeks after that in the Belmont stakes but he won the three races in about a one month span. Not Fifteen weeks like we're talking about here in two thousand twenty. That's ridiculous that is not a triple crown and you know looking at a fall triple crown and what might have been if all three entities have chosen to work together. Take a look at it now. You gotTA understand. Nbc dictates a lot of this because of their scheduling and when they can fit things in and they have been a wonderful partner for horseracing their TV schedule in the fall is largely revolving around their contract with Notre Dame football if you take a look at what that would look like in in best case scenario if you were to do it as a traditional fall triple crown traditional scheduling of the races. The Derby on September fifth is not an issue. There is no notre dame football. Obviously that's already locked in two weeks later September. Nineteen if you were to schedule. The preakness there as it normally would be two weeks after the Derby. Notre Dame plays Western Michigan. That's at two thirty eastern time so it does there might be a little finagling on the part of NBC. Wake this work but it does work you can still if the Derby the preakness doesn't run until almost seven o'clock at night that you give you plenty of time to get that out there on NBC and to make that work three weeks after that you run the Belmont stakes on October tenth. That's a no brainer. That's easy Notre Dame play Stanford at seven thirty now. This is all the swimming. There's even going to be college football this year but you have to go into it with the assumption that those games are going to happen when you schedule this and if you run the Belmont as the third and final leg a mile and a half on October tenth and you have a fall triple crown five weeks in between all three races. It leaves you one month between the end of the triple crown and the Breeders Cup at Keeneland November sixth and seventh. What's wrong with that Nella? I wasn't privy to those conversations that went on behind the scenes when Belmont and Nyra were talking about. Rescheduling the Belmont or win the stronach group was talking about rescheduling preakness but they moved it to the fall. So it certainly looks to me like Pimlico. Stronach group are willing to play ball. Doesn't look like Myra was. They were hell bent. I keeping that race in June for whatever reason doesn't look like they were team players here doesn't I don't know if you consider. Churchill a team player and again not being privy to those conversations how much churchill try to work with the stronach group and naira before they made their announcement of September fifth. Maybe a lot maybe not enough. Maybe not all just some to think about again. Disappointing to me. That somehow our sport and these three major entities couldn't come together for the good of sport to put together. What would have been an awesome thing? A fall triple crown and because of that fifteen weeks in between the three races come on. That's not a triple crown. And the Horse that wins. All three is not going to be considered a triple crown winner. And that's my poll question. Do you agree. Do you disagree with that? I want to hear from you you can go to. Hr on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook to let me know if a horse sweeps all three races in the triple crown this year. Is he a triple crown winner? Do you consider him a triple crown winner. That's probably a better way to say. Do you consider him a triple crown winner and you have to choices absolutely and no way. Let me know your thoughts. I say no way not even close not even now ridiculous. Very disappointing All right again very very busy program. We're going to cover a lot of ground We may touch on that subject again later in the program with one of our gas but when I come back I'm going to be joined by Jimmy Bell President of Godolphin's US operations. He'll talk about the talented Max deal making his three. They've you can't. 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Here's Max be old moving up on the outside to challenge Guvener Morris off the bar turn and Max field strides forward and takes the lead by a length and a half to lake. Look Final Furlong Guvener. Moore's second enforceable third. The rest are far back Max. Field Rep taking rod at the top of the stretch Hicks clear by six Max field to win the flavor and readers feature at a four Jose Ortiz. Welcome back to the equine form presented all month long by FAR PAINT DOT COM. Mike Penner with you from my home studio my producer. Lee Dela Pena is in our primary studio in the heart of the Bluegrass Lexington Kentucky and happy to have you back with me as Kurt. Becker brought him home with the call of the breeders futurity at Keeneland last October. And Max `field remaining perfect to for two and breathtaking was the word that Kurt used in the call and I think that's appropriate because this son of Darley Stallion Street sense has been nothing short of remarkable and everybody has been anxiously awaiting the return of maccesfield since he had to scratch prior to the Breeders Cup at Santa Anita this past fall. I know nobody anticipating this return more than Jimmy Bell. The president of Godolphin's US operations and he is with me now. Here on the Horse. Racing Radio Network Jimmy. Good morning my friend more and Mike. How're you doing? I'm doing well excited to see McAfee back in action later today value. I think quite a few others and I almost wanted to replay. That stretch called the of the flavoring beers dirty. Again that that It was breathtaking. And sort of. Get your juices flowing again anticipation. And that's certainly what we've been doing for quite a while but Days here we couldn't be more excited as I was listening to. Kurt's call coming out of the break I could. I could envision that move that Max `field made in that race and just sweeping by horses like they were tied to oppose Jimmy But impressed you most about field that day at keeneland well you know again In both the first two starts you know. He's a little tardy leaving the gate. And you Kinda your heart rate drops a little bit when you see him leave the gate. They go boy. You know in this grade one race like that. It's a little hard to make up all that kind of distance as you. Well know it's a short run to the finish line of Sixteenth poll. So a lot of times when you come out of that turned. You better better paid your spots. And the movie made beginning from the three eighths pole to the to the Top of the stretch and straightened away really was breathtaking. You don't see many horses that can truly circle field like that and just you know switch leads and draw the way did so Yeah it makes you makes you dream a little bit and and that was a legitimate grade. One performance yet. A Horse that Godolphin Brad. Obviously as I mentioned by street sense who stands at Darley here in in Lexington out of Bernardini mayor of Velvety. Tell me a little bit about the pedigree and the way this meeting came together from Max Field. Well as you know it really goes a little deeper than that it's you know. Velvety Miracle. Caress cat was a fantastic foundation. Mayor of the great harborview breeding and racing operation and You know as as you just mentioned Bernardini's got to be an unbelievable broodmare sire. And here you see at once again. You know his his Probably one of the youngest SARS that have soured as many grade. One winner says he's done so phenomenal breeding obviously on the bottom side and and straight senses certainly made his own noise as as a Siren. And we really really hopeful. That Max build is a type of horseshoe dream out that you always loved to see A young son of one of your stallions not only do well but nowhere. He's GonNa end up to yeah. We were all disappointed. We didn't get to see him strut his stuff in the Breeders Cup at Santa. Anita I told Brennan Walsh's trainer after the race that maybe that was a bit of a blessing in disguise. I in some respects because he could look forward to the first Saturday in May of course. Now it'll be the first Saturday in September but tell me about what these past few months have been like for Max `field sense scratching from Santa Anita Breeders Cup. Well you know you're exactly right. My you know you remember talking about it out the Breeders Cup and you know you always like to think. Perhaps there's there's there's the silver lining to this pretty dark cloud at the moment. And that's that sounds good philosophically speaking but Obviously a great disappointment At the time but it was never even a question mark as to what we're going to do and and Giving that time off and you know had that little ship removed it's given brandon all the time in the world to bring a horse along that that needed time you know. We always said he would does a two year old. Be a bonus because just he's a very much Is Our big tall or the likey immature looking but very balanced two year old? But you would envision what he might look like when he really hit that growing spurt until now is a three year old and and this time off You know to his advantage to the first four five months of the year. He's developed so much in filled out especially through his hand and got so much stronger and You know he's always had a phenomenal. Mental approach mental attitude. He's he's that's probably one of the greatest attribute mental toughness but the ability in time to really develop physically probably been the biggest key to where he is today and We really are. I don't know if you seem seeing on video. That was in the T and but he's certainly filled out the way we had hoped and He's a proper looking three-year-old. Obviously Jimmy you WANNA see him win today and you WanNa see him remain undefeated but I know. There's bigger goals up the road. So what are you going to be looking for when Max deal goes to the post later today? Well let's You know while while we're grateful to have all this time to sort of develop and catch up now. What he's done in the morning has been so pleasing every time. He's very willing very generous in the morning shuts off just like that when he comes off the track all the signs you WanNa see. He displays But let's be honest. He has run since Breeder Futurity at Cayman last October and He's stepping against very battle-tested horses that have all had at least three races this year. So that that's a question mark but you know. I think he's that type. Of course that doesn't need a lot of practice runs. Obviously you could tell his two year old career Surprisingly in his first race that he was able to get the job done there so I think that he's got the added benefit of a very good mind and I think that's probably going to be as big a factor as you come back and sort of not always stick your toe in the water. But you know you're probably get right to do some swimming here so I think he's physically ready. I think he's always had the mental capacity. And you know you just hope that The time off. There isn't too much rust. They're men and I just I. I have a feeling that he's ready to perform so again. You know it's rare that you're going to sit here and say you have no excuses but today we have. No excuses might have something later this afternoon but we're just very fortunate to be in a position where are both physically and mentally talking with Jimmy. Bell here on the Horse Racing Radio Network President of Godolphin's US operations. Jimmy let me go out on a limb here and say that if Max field doesn't win the grade three met wind today. You'd be okay with number one mystic. Get getting the victory the other one racing in royal blue. Well that's an interesting conversation. Actually Misty God missed a got. Is You know his his Got A lot of attention and breaking his maiden. I don't know if you're sheep follow or not but You know both have very very similar. Sheep numbers in their first starts. Their second starts In breaking his maintenance the second start going to turns misty guy got got an eight. I believe eight on the sheets and And and when Mexico won the breeders thirty guys seven three quarter. So you know they`re. They're both shown phenomenal ability. But what we really didn't WANNA do Is have to run each other run against each other again so early in the year as well. So the entry of Mr Guide into this race was an was a last resort Mike stem is a very conservative guy by nature not wanted to really just want to break your maintenance jump into deep in but you know we all had to. Kinda shuffle a deck here and and with racing on hold and so many places. They're just this was really the only opportunity to run at that time since then. Belmont came out with their book. There's a nice allowance race on June fourth going and sixteen amount eighth. I believe. And that's really what we prefer to do. Some misty guide now the race to point towards. We're running the allowance race. Belmont and and These won't see each other all right. Well there you go you're have mystic get and Max `field not going to match up here today but How about arms in the in stakes? Another godolphin runner been brilliant undefeated. Now she has to take on sharing he returns after winning the Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf. Tell me a little bit about arms. Well it's hard to improve off a four for four so she's one of those you know. We started sprinting. In the first two races and then stretched out to a mile and and Senator to California Jimmy around at del Mar and you know she won that very impressively When you go when you go three for three and want to give her every opportunity. Winter gave her a little rice down. Fairgrounds in anticipation of some big races. King them back up in New York so again like everybody Mike. You know we've had to kind of reshuffle the deck and You know again. There's so many top horses ready to run with nowhere to go. And now when you have some racing dope enough you you look up here and you say GonNa run against the Beers Cup. Beautiful winner here In your first start you know of this season. So a tall order. Graham's got a great philly and sharing Eddie Canal. He's got a nice feeling there as well as done nothing wrong. And unfortunately you know we're in the fourteen hole there but No this really has shown nothing but class and everything she's done so This is a jump in the deep end. But we're going to know what we have come out of this race today. As far as the quality of what she can do against the top phillies and quite honestly we. We thought she deserved the opportunity to be running spots. Like this Oh You know very very nice cities if Philly of an empire maker mayor that has really got a great turn of foot and Again I keep talking about this mental disposition. She too has a great great Mental Outlook Yeah. It's so important and often overlooked with these good horses arms. Has IT MAX field has it for sure You also have three horses scheduled to go to the post in the war chance stakes which would be race eleven as the final race on the program right after the Matt Win picks shared sense in Herodotus are all going to run in there all three or go to run their. Maybe maybe three different reasons. But they're all GONNA show up As you can tell actually shared sense was the possibility for the Matt. Win and speak with Brad Cox Jimmy You know again. We're not looking to run their own horses against each other. Not that we don't but in this particular case with Matt when we really wanted to The focus had always been with with Max build and and secondly misty God if there was no other place to run and share sense You know he's a very very competitive oarsmen. A very very tough allows race down. Oklahoma's last art and back Cox says I've always wanted to run this this little cold on the grass. I just have a feeling that he may really take the turf. Nothing we just discussed it a little bit further and said this might be a great time. 'cause you know really as we say we surely didn't want three in the win and trying to spread them around quarterly so he's he's a an unknown factor and with ability Of A nice mayor collective. Who's the daughter composure and Another street sense. And you know Brad Cox just said let's let's give this a world which so this is unchartered territory for him but think he's got the to to give a good account itself and You know pixelated cities colts. It's done nothing wrong You know has the closing ability in and of course Harare this was last week. Starts shows the ability to kind of control the pace and These turf races you know. Kinda Kinda gotta get the right trip to begin with so we've got some in the front some of the middle and some we don't know yeah well three horses in the royal blue in that war chant and again a very busy day you'll see a lot of royal blue on the race track at. Churchill later this afternoon Jimmy Bell. Nice not to spend some time with me here. This morning Jimmy. Listen Good luck this afternoon. The one thing I didn't get to and I have to get to a break is To ask you about that Godolphin philosophy because you have to be feeling so privileged to be part of that team because they just do things right From the top all the way down. And we'll do that at some point in the future but good luck here today. Go get it done and appreciate the visit here this morning. Thank you so much in order to be a part of the team and and thank you for everything that you do as well. It's great to show these stories. Thank you right Jimmy. Jimmy Bell here on the horse racing radio network like all of our guests appear on the program. We're GONNA send Jimmy a gift. Courtesy of embraced the race. The apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Where would you love and embrace your passion at embraced the race dot com time now for your lexus? Legends of the TURF brought to you every Saturday at this time by the Lexus tour of Lexington by the way a reminder that the show room is again at the Lexus store of Lexington. So make sure you stop out and see all the great folks at the Lexus store of Lexington. I'm back to visit with Jeff. True from Ruidoso downs. Right after this on June ninth nineteen fifty-six feeling post world running of the fifty thousand dollar argonaut handicap at Hollywood park in the field where language and farmers porterhouse who had whipped his chief rival in this field swaps by ahead in the last previous meeting of the two in the Californian the very speedy bobby bro. Cotto with a master craftsman Johnny Longden and the irons and of course swaps would come off an injury as a three year old to make an attempt at a third world record swaps had already notched world records for one and one sixteenth miles and a mile and seventy yards. The Hollywood park had been especially groomed to be as fast as the one armed paperhanger in a four room apartment. Two hour deadline. The anticipation was high amongst the patrons on this day for the import of a possible record breaking performance trying to emiss- Kenney said lately and openly that his or swaps lower citations world mark. One thirty three three four. The flat mile record that had stood since nineteen forty nine as the horses broke from the starting gate. It was expected that the very speedy Bobby Bronco with longer than the saddle would go to the front ca. Try TO STEAL IT. But Bill Shoemaker got swaps out of the box like rocket down along defense and he was not about to allow himself to get shut up by the speed horses outside of them going into the turn. Swaps established a clear. Lead going into the clubhouse. Turn shoemaker realize Longdon with resigned to playing the waiting game settling in just off the pace with Bob Rococco Schumacher turned that strategy to his own advantage while keeping lots of horse and reserve setting the early fractions swaps out on open. Lead all the way down the backside while turning in twenty two and three quarter forty five and one for the half and eight and two for the first six panels as the field swung through the fire. Turn the glistening California Sunlight Longdon Betas expected. Move with Bobby Bro. And with a quick burst of speed got his mount setup to shoemakers boot on the leader. The shoe went to the stick cracking the flank of swaps with hard liquor swaps. Responded we get and move clear the wreck cells worth on four your old hell sway during the run down the lane and all is right now on the timer which flashed one thirty three and one is. He hit the wire a new world record. Bobby Berko had been beaten by barely length in a supremely game effort and porterhouse and received of nine pounds from swaps success. Further back in third swap said clock the last half mile and most impressive forty eight flat. It was a third world record. He had chalked up and he was in no uncertain terms to be regarded as one of the all time greats on the racetrack. He was blessed with class. Courage and a tremendous amount of ability. Sure fire recipe for greatness. You know not all fast. Horses are great but all great horses are fast. Swaps was undeniably fast indeed many observers on the scene at Hollywood park on the June Day in nineteen fifty six felt swaps could have gone fester. He'd been pushed in the early part of the race but it was breathtakingly fast as it was June night. Nineteen fifty-six at Hollywood park and the argonaut handicap the day swaps said his third world. Mark Visionary Design this Arro- performance an imaginary technology. 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And what a great caller he was and we remember world champion win a lot of cash. Who won that race in one so many big races and looking forward to visiting with Jeff through the general manager of Riodosa downs? That comes up here in just a minute But want to remind you that if you are looking for live streaming and replays from nearly any race track out there. All you have to do is check out. Rt AND DOT TV. The race track television network are has the most HD content of any streaming service and is available on many devices including TV's PC's tablets smartphones coup and Amazon Fire TV. And how about this as a special treat for all of our listeners if you use the Promo Code Capital H. R. N. All capital Letters. You're going to get the first seven days of live streaming and replace absolutely free. Just go to Artesian DOT TV and sign up now wells. I mentioned Jeff. True is at Ruidoso downs. He is the general manager. They kicked off their me yesterday. They'll go through labor day when they will host the all American to three million dollar a grade one race and jeff boy. Congratulations on a successful start to the meat and looking forward to the next couple of months. Thank you my good morning. We're looking to looking forward to it. Also yeah it should be great. You know that all American when you think about what that race means not just to Ruidoso downs but what it means to the sport. As a whole it's it's equivalent to the Kentucky Derby Right. It's certainly our version of the derby biggest race of the year. It probably drives most of the the yearling purchases and a lot of the speculation throughout the year. Ken We breathe or buy a horse. That can you know go that quarter mile and September first. You're the first Monday in September and say it's You know it's the cap of our triple crown all three races which are run here though so and I believe Mike and I've looked around a bit. I believe it's the richest two year old horse race on the planet There's a big two year old race in Australia but at three million dollars there's not Not any that. I've found that topic. Yeah the money is great and you know the the races leading up to that day on Labor Day throughout the entire meet you have all the trials and the yet the Rideau so derby which is on June. Sixth there are several highlights drought the meat. So Jeff go ahead and fill people in what they can expect. When they tune in to the races at Route Elsa downs thereto sedans is You know tucked away in the mountains about seven thousand feet here in South Central New Mexico. We run those traditional dates memorial day to Labor Day every year and we start off the meat like we did yesterday with Radoslav futurity trials and what that means. Is You know the triple crown is made up of the Rideau so the rainbow and the all American. We have a two year old and a three year old division for each of those triple crown events. The two year olds obviously in. May Most of them are non starters when they enter the trials so we have. We had two hundred seventy seven two year old. Puerto Horses enter the trials a week ago. We split those time trials into two days so the five fastest from yesterday and the five fastest from the trials later. Today we'll come back on June seventh and run fridge. Million Dollar purse will run derby trials. Eleven of them on Sunday and ten of those horses will come back and run for about nine hundred and fifty thousand. So that's the first leg we'll come back while the fourth of July weekend we'll run the rainbow the same way. So the Rados is three hundred and fifty yards. The rainbow is four hundred yards and we get to the American. We'll run those time trials in the middle of August with the plans to come back to the finals. The futurity and the Derby On Labor Day weekend that's had a quarter mile and a horse that wins all three few charities. We'll get a two million dollar bonus. The horse that wins all three derbies will get a one million dollar bonus. And you know it's a pretty lucrative racing program business and you've got a triple crown futurity winner you're talking about nearly four and a half to five million dollars in total purses for the summer. That's a pretty big incentive and it's what drives our our horse sales is what drives our Quarterhorse Business Nationally. You WANNA say nationally-know. We're primarily a south western oriented business and it's one of the courses came from That's where they're they're dominantly. Bread predominantly Raised and bred here in the South West and and our program kind of anchors. The Business Talking Jeff through the general manager of Rita slowdowns here on the horse racing radio network again. They're meet began. Yesterday it runs all the way through Labor Day. Jeff you're like so many other race tracks or I guess every other race track you are operating in what we call a new normal doing it without fans in attendance which means that the product is made for TV in some respects and People can wager on it from all over the country. How does it work? How are you handling this new normal? And how can people access the the racing? And how can they wager on it? Re those sit downs has Has the good fortune albeit not this year but the good fortune of having very high on track. Attendance and handle about fifty percent of our total handle is done right here on the racetrack in typical years. So not having fans is pretty painful to us but to answer your question. I mean we have re purposed much of our marketing money. Much of our focus from it on track event oriented resort. You know weekend event To digital platform and we we put some money into our eighty w partners Promotional Ski Schedules We're talking to you today. We're talking about how you can get to read though so through twin spires. Tv G expressed bit naira bets and two dozen other eighty w partners. We've done some things internationally with fixed odds worse racing partners but you can go to the race RIODOSA DOT COM website. Run on the top banner. You can find the program the the link to the RT in live Live streaming and replay center. We've got tips and selections and we've got history and how to bet. We've Kinda repurpose our schedule. Our promotions to a digital presence changed our our pre game show to a studio show instead of one. That's live out in front of a the fans and the in the grandstand so it's You know Mike. I hope it's not the new normal. We recognize that You know there's an evolution to do this thing and to getting back to our regular normal which is a lot of fans in the grindstone. Because that's what makes radio so work. Yeah and you know like so many other tracks. You have to be adaptable in this environment. That we're operating in and it sounds like Jeff you've done just that you mentioned the wagering were folks income wager online now to help make up for the the wagering that you would lose. Would people typically onsite? But the thing I like to is that you're offering free programs on your website which I guess you kind of have to be hard to sell them but boy what a perk that is you can go there. Download the program and just watch and wager right there at the race. Riodosa DOT COM. And what more could you ask for? Well you know we're we're not teen and Saratoga and DEL Mar. We're not above the fold nationally. We have some. We have a lot of following regionally and we have about two hundred thousand people come to the racetrack every summer. About half of those folks come from Texas and primarily Lubbock Amarillo Midland Odessa. El Paso In Texas you can't even open an eighty w account unfortunately and further in New Mexico and Mexico resident while he may have a AWA account he cannot wager on New Mexico content. I mean that's a quirk in New Mexico law. It's a you know in my view. It's a travesty in Texas and I can say that because I am a Texan but you know. Our digital capability is somewhat limited. So we felt like we had to go over the line and and do what we can to promote Our product to a larger of broader audience and putting those programs out there for fans to download for free. It's an expense to us but we feel like it's worth it and it's an investment to get folks to take a look at Rideau sedans. I mean some of your third but players. That may not have seen quarterhorse racing. I would just tell you that there are. There are fewer variables. Handicapping quarterhorse racing partly. Because it's a short race and specifically because we've got a bunch of Non Starter. Two year olds that have only had schooling works which are on video and a couple of other works in preparation. So you know. Part of the thing with quarter or steel. Can I buy or breathe a better horse than you? And can we point to a race early in the summer without ever trying these horses and win a Big Pot? I mean that's the challenge for gamblers. It's following that mantra of connections breeding preparation conditions and And trying to decipher a winner. And we think we've got a good product and You know we've got a few high volume players that agree with us and there's a lot of guys like the Edberg Arts of the world that That have taught us how to best and it kept puerto racing and it's watching replays and and digging into the connections and the breeding will. I'm glad you bring that up Jeff. Because we earlier in the conversation we drew a parallel to the all American and the Kentucky Derby and if we were talking about being just over three months away from the Kentucky Derby we would have all kinds of rankings and we would have debate over which horses were true contenders which forces might be pretenders on the first Saturday in. May How about the all American is there. Are there some things there that people can grasp on to follow horses along the road to the all America or is it completely different where you have horses? Just kind of emerging. From Week to week you know even during the summer There are races around the country. The certainly the Rados if utility and the Rainbow futurity speak well to the horses that will compete in the all American but their horses come from California Oklahoma from Texas and Louisiana. That have competed well there and when you see them come to the mountain how they react to the mountain. The altitude the change in scenery the You know the thinner air the racing surface how they adapt this area in this. Climate will say a lot but typically if you look and I've done it over the last twenty to thirty years where the horses that win the All American come from it's primarily the rainbow futurity the rainbow trials or run the the fourth of July weekend typically and horses that compete. Well in the trials even if they don't qualify to the rainbow typically do well in the all American trials and and. I can't tell you why I can just tell you that. That's the case. And when they get to that quarter-mile trial that last hundred yards is a tough go. I mean the air is thin. These sources have been going summer You're looking for a horse. That has the breeding to go that distance while a quarter mile may not sound like a long distance. When you're giving it a hundred and ten percent that's about all I can. Do you know when he lucas told me one time he said look good. Horse can give you a sixteen. And he's talking about thoroughbreds can give sixteenth of a mile at one hundred percent a pretty good horse can give you a eighth of a mile but a really great horse can give you a quarter mile at one hundred percent with these quarter horses. It's one hundred percent all the time. So what you see at the wire is is what that horse is and you know a quarter mile for two year old first week of September. That's a tall order and when they do it in twenty one and a half seconds. It's It's something to see. Just a special special event in their. Ob several special moments throughout that me about it runs through Labor Day you can go to race riodosa DOT COM to learn more to get free. Pp's into place your wagers and we encourage you to do so. It's going to be a lot of fun and Jeff. True with me here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Jeff. Listen I really appreciate the support of everything we're doing here on the network and We'll talk with you later on the meat and we'll keep We'll keep people informed as to what's happening throughout the remainder of the meat to my friend. I invite all your favorite players to give us a shot. it's a fun thing to watch and if you ever get a chance to come up to the mountain we'll show you a good time. I'm all in Jeff. True here on the horse racing radio network enjoy the weekend. Jeff thank you all right then like all of our guests who appear on the program. We're going to send Jeff gift courtesy of embrace the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Don't forget that you can wear what you love and embrace your passion by going to embrace the race dot Com. I'll get through another break when I come back to your industry star of the week and I'll get you set for the second half of the program. This is the form on the Horse Racing Radio Network your home. 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My first grade one win as a trainer so just brings back great memories and She she's just been a wonderful horse to be a part of. Why is she so special? What makes her so good. Yeah I just think she's so honest you know. She tries each and every time You know what I mean. Doesn't come up with excuses. She so tactical you know being could be on the lead comes off the pace and I mean she just has that will to win the desire and I mean just to see her and obviously we. She's a seven year old now and and she's three three and twenty twenty and it just it just seems to be getting better and better as time goes. What did you see in her? That led you to claimer in two thousand seventeen for just that sixteen thousand dollar tag you know claiming that Gulfstream's is is a tough you you go in for so many horses and and I mean we were just looking for a horse that we could bring back to woodbine maybe win a race or to have a little fun with obviously never anticipating anything that's happening now but you know when We got out for a Lotta horses prior to her and when she came along I liked their forum She had predominantly been sprinting and She had just kind of started running. I mean beyond five furlongs and and She just kept seeming like she want a little bit more ground. When I washed the replays and and I just thought you know what I may be. Stretching her out a bitchy might Might really kind of appreciate that and you might see a little bit better of a horse so we dropped our hat in the bucket and we won a three way shake for that day and the rest of the history if you hadn't gotten out shook for the horses that you tried to claim before her. Do you think you would have gotten her? How tough to say you know. Probably in all and all probably probably not got one and it might have been about bad one we would have been kind of scared to go back in again or Just kinda matter quota mean what what made the case be but I'm sure sure sure. Happy that We their shift on the other ones. That's for sure because we didn't want to take so the sovereign awards were supposed to be held in April but because of the situation would covid nineteen. They were postponed and the Jockey Club. Canada I thought did a phenomenal job putting together a virtual sovereign award presentation which was available online as you're watching the presentation and you see her name as one of the finalists for Champion Female Tur- force which I think she was probably the favorite in that category horse of the year. As you're watching that horse of the year announcement. Tell me about that moment. Where were you what was going through your mind there? Yeah so I'm in my living room Kind with my family and we're obviously watching that point so I'm kind of on the tip of my like rocking chair that I kinda got there and on the side. My wife got me kind of almost like isolated from the family because of Cova nineteen coming through the tracks. She's a little kind of a little. You know what I mean strict with some rules at the house. So he's got my own little corner set up so I'm on the edge of my seat at that moment. Waiting kind of Get Him in here. Who the winners it'd be and obviously you know what I mean. You're going up against the horse of Pink Floyd that's I mean six for six already horse of the year. So you know it's GonNa be a cold call and I it's not a shoo-in I mean. Obviously I was a little by and I thought you know she. She deserved to win her being a grade. One winner and and being a you know she traveled to. Saratoga ran a good race in the Boston. Spa so a soon as they kind of announced just prior to them announcing the name they flash up you can see the horses a picture of the Horse because the Philly come up and I could tell it was her and my son. He was sixteen Joshua Him and I just exploded. And then we were like yeah and Just embracing to be honestly. I think that's the first time I've hugged him since arriving from Florida In being quarantine in my own house where the two weeks mandatory isolation we have here in Canada when arriving from the US or out of province so it was just a thrilling moment and then my wife kind of goes through US afterward. How did you guys know she? It was her name going to be called right. It was just an unbelievable feeling and in the only thing that would have topped off honestly if I was able to kind of obviously share that moment with the owners because they've been really good to me. showed a lot of confidence by long-needed to kind of continue to train the Philly They could have given her. Anybody obviously North America But they chose to kind of keep her with me and and I appreciate that and It's I mean it's just it's been a great Great right yeah. Great Ride Indeed Kevin Itar now the trainer of Canadian horse of the year and starship jubilee. Congratulations to him and to that very special mayor into the owners as well our number two features Graham motion coming up in just a couple of minutes Terry Finley from West Point thoroughbreds with a Special Memorial Day tribute and then Dora Delgado from Breeders Cup toward the end of the show. Get to all of that when I come back right after we pause ten seconds for station identification. This is the horse racing radio network from the rail to your radio. This is the horse racing radio network. Talk Bigots Kentucky Derby big in the wrentham roses five welcome to the equine forum presented by Foreign Paint Dot Com animal kingdom. His town sing lights in the Tomas. Ascot animal kingdom on the outside. Who goes going? Ma'am I tell Nice. I'm running I'm all kingdom. When American firing line put third to the Finnish American? A fuck tugging now. Here's Mike Welcome back hour number two the equine form rolling on very busy morning getting ready to welcome in trainer Grand Motion Momentarily but WANNA remind you that if you missed any portion of the first half of the program or any of our shows you can go back to our website horse racing radio dot net. Listen at your leisure my interview with Jimmy Bell from Godolphin in the first half of the program along with Jeff true from Riodosa downs. Again those interviews available for you on our website after we finish up at ten. Am Eastern this morning? They'll be there horse racing radio dot net in horse racing radio network on Apple podcasts. A poll question of the day. The answers coming in quickly on twitter and on facebook by the way you can go to. Hr In on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook if a horse sweeps all three triple crown races this year. Do you consider them a triple crown winner. Gave you two choices. Absolutely and no way I fall on the side of no way. I don't think there's any chance that you consider them. A true triple crown winner even if they sweep while three considering the spacing in between the races But it looks like most of you disagree. Sixty three percent saying absolutely keep those votes coming in all update them later in the second half of the show. Well Graham motion is with me. Now he has saddled More than twenty hundred winners in his career. Four Breeders Cup winners and one of them returning to the races later this afternoon in the tappan that is the ultra talented. Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf winner Sharing Graham. Good morning my friend. Hey Morning Mike. Thanks for having me. Yeah thanks for spending a few minutes Look sharing was so so good last year. And let's start by looking back on that win the juvenile fillies turf. You join me afterwards. I know you were ecstatic with the performance. And you should be. Yeah I mean look. It was a thrill me especially to train to mum That was a big deal for me when shared account one churchill. So you know to come back with her daughter and essentially neater just. The Breeders Cup is so special to me anyway so I'm thrilled to be a part of it and when you win one it's extra special. No doubt all. She rattled off in a row. Capped it off with that win in the juvenile fillies turf and now she makes her three year old debut coming up this afternoon in that one hundred thousand dollar tap stakes at Churchill. Take me back through the past few months since that Breeders Cup win. What have they been like for sharing so originally would targeted the Tampa Oaks On the earth and the first time I breezed it down a Gulfstream. I thought she came back a little stiff. Not ghosting Palm Meadows. I'm sorry on the turf. And maybe she overdid it a little bit that day. I think she went a in forty eight and change The grand was quite firm so and then I put our heads together and just decided we'd get it back to the fair hill where she could train on the synthetic Which she's familiar with and kind of had the idea pointing for the hilltop pimlico on preakness we can so. We're really not behind schedule It was great when the tap and he showed up on the schedule at Churchill. So this is kind of been our targeted percents and really. We haven't had any hiccups She's pretty much pretty regularly every week and done things very pleasingly. I would say we always talk about that. Development Graham of a horse from two to three and how significant those months can be What were some of the things that you were looking forward sharing and hoping to see as she moved into her three year old season well possibly you could even say it was a bit of a surprise that she was so precocious at the two year. Old he's grown a lot over the winter. I mean even sort of before the Breeders Cup. She'd grown a lot from the summer but I think over the winter. She's really matured. I think the often you'll see sort of a much bigger mature mayor But have traits changed. Which is really encouraging. She's still very kind to be around Very level headed and I've just been pleased with her works. I've worked with rancor WHO's one of my better mares pretty regularly. It's not often that you breathe three roles with older horses at this time of year. So you know. I think that's a sign of confidence that I have in her and I think he's handled everything very well so I'm pleased. I'm excited to get US started. It is not an easy race. I mean fact that it's a hundred thousand listed race really it could be a group to In the middle of the summer. Yeah it came up really salty as they say and I had a chance to visit with Jimmy Bell from Godolphin earlier. He talked about arms who is undefeated. She takes on sharing in there But she's not the only one you have to worry about size up the competition for me. No look at the great race. It's a great betting race. I think the fact that you know Grad getting back to racing. It's tough for us as trainers and owners because the race is are so competitive but I think the flip side of that is that they make great betting races great spectator races. Very exciting to watch They're really deep field. And I think I'm sure I haven't looked at the other races closely today but I'm sure you can say that about all the races today certainly the allowance race that I mean might as well be a great three the the the boys allowance race on the graph. I think it's sufficient for tough. Yeah super tough you know. Look that's the thing I mean Ben Huffman Told me last week that you know it helps when you're the only show in town but these fields are so good and horses come from all over it it. I thought makes it difficult to get into these racists from a trainer in an owner perspective? But once you're in you better have your running shoes on. Yeah and I think we all kind of knew that going into it but I think that's good I mean I think that's It's not meant to be easy. These races and I think from from the betting public and the from spectator point watching on television. I think it's thrilling race. It I think it makes makes really deep exciting races and this is what you're going to see a bell on to. I mean this is really like Saratoga in in June oh man yeah. It's a good way to put it Graham motion with me on the horse racing radio network. Grammy Mentioned Training. Schering's mother shared account to one the fillion turf in two thousand ten I know you talked about this back around the Breeders Cup time. And you said that she really didn't resemble her mother a whole lot. How about now that? She has grown up in developed as you talked about earlier. Are you starting to see more? Shared account her at all yet. Definitely I mean he had account was kind of a big lanky mayor Very Athletic And I would say sharing kind of filling that frame Very similar type. They have very similar disposition. Very kind I mean. They were shared account with easily. One of my favorite Mez. Partly just because you had this very kind demeanor and shows that trait with her grand motion here on the Horse. Racing Radio Network is a busy morning. I won't keep him too much longer. grandma throughout that poll question on twitter. You're never wanted to be shy about throwing out opinions on twitter Looked away the triple. Crown is set up this year with those three races and the large spacing in between the Belmont and the Derby and then a month to the preakness which will be the final leg. I say that if a horse all three wonderful kudos great job. You're great three-year-old. You're not considered a triple crown winner. Obviously most people are disagreeing with me on twitter. How about you? What do you say well? I put on twitter earlier this week. that it's going to be triple crown with an asterix and I think that's true. I I I don't think you can deny the fact that if a horse is capable of doing it. It's still an amazing feat. I I still believe they'll go down the triple crown winner. But it'll have an asterisk next to his name. Yeah I think so too. I just think you know look. It's because of the order of the races. I pointed this out that in nineteen thirty gallant Fox won the preakness is the first leg then took the derby and the Belmont but he won all three races within like a month time span and now you're talking about what eleven week gotta be more than that it'd be Fifteen weeks I guess in between all three races and that to me just doesn't add up to a. I think you're I think you're disrespecting the other triple crown winners if you put him in the same category yeah. There's no doubt there's been debate over the years about whether the triple crown should be changed. I mean part of what makes the triple crown. So Great. Is that the time between the races. It's it's very tough to do it. And it's not supposed to be easy and we went to years and years. Everyone's saying we need to change it because it is so hard to win it but actually that's ultimately what makes it the typical crowd. But I I don't take you know if a horse is capable of doing it this year. I still feel that. They're going to be a triple crown winner. I don't get the criticism of what the race tracks have done. I think everyone's played the hand that held in. What's just an extraordinary year? And I think quite frankly we just be grateful that you know it's going to be able to compete in these races even though the timing is going to be odd Yeah I think my only disappointment came with not scheduling a fall triple crown with the more traditional scheduling of the racist. Which I think could have been done when you look at the NBC television schedule with with Notre Dame football. I think it all could have worked out if everybody wanted to jump into the same boat and play together At least all three racetracks and I don't think that was the case But that was my only disappointment. Naira did the right thing by making the Belmont shorter since they're going to run it one month from today you can't ask courses to go a mile and a half it maybe touch on that for a quick second grand before. I let you go because people have been complaining about their reduction in distance. But if you have a horse's pointing for the Belmont your one month away you can't get that Horsera- to go mile and a half. Can you know? I think they did the right thing. I mean the only thing you question is maybe perhaps it shouldn't have been called the Belmont this year. Perhaps it should have just been the Peter Pan and maybe we don't run the Belmont but look. I'm not questioning anybody's done. I think everyone's tried to do what? Just been excruciatingly difficult complicated year and I. I think we're so lucky to be back racing. I feel extremely fortunate running church so and really look forward to Belmont Opening. Up and I'm appreciative of all the you know the hoops people have had to jump through in order to get us back racing and hopefully we'll get back racing in Maryland next week. Said he's trainer. Graham motion here on the Horse Racing Radio Network by the way. Graham celebrated his twenty eighth birthday yesterday so Graham Happy Birthday. Thank you Michael. Graham Ocean here on. Hr Grandma appreciate the visit. My friend good luck with sharing and all your runners today and moving forward to appreciate it. Thank you enjoy the races today. Great Racing Yep you YouTube. My friend Yeah it is great racing. He's right about that eleven races at Churchill downs. They have that five hundred thousand dollar guaranteed all stakes pick five which is racist seven through eleven although stakes races and The return of sharing the return of Max `field Who was also undefeated. Sharing is gonNA tackle. The undefeated alms in that race I mean come. On what more could you ask for? And then you throw in As Graham said his allowance race earlier in the program and he's got two horses in allowance. Races he has English be just Howard You throw in by the way. They're both in the same race or in race five together. That races as Salty's is it comes in. He said that could be a greatest stakes race. Yeah really really good card at Churchill. Coming up later today Coming up next Terry. Finley from West. Point thoroughbreds is GonNa join me. A course terry a graduate of West Point He'll spend a little time talking about Memorial Day. And what this weekend. 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Then Terry Finley of West Point thoroughbreds not only does he own west point thoroughbreds but he is a graduate of West Point in his served our country so terry first of all good morning and let me start by saying thank you for your service to our country. My friend so good morning. Thank you very much and Up Past that also long to all the veterans across the world And a lot of veterans in our business too so I say thank you to them. Yes so many you know Terry as somebody who is graduated from West Point in has i. I know you still do an awful lot with west point and you do everything you can to support them When when you think about Memorial Day what. What does this day mean to you? Well I tell you I was thinking about our talk today. You know. It's tough because there's so many things that we give. Thanks for and you know so. I think I think it runs the spectrum. What does does give us a chance. All of us to pause and to reflect to really give thanks to all those people in the past and that gave the ultimate sacrifice but now are serving. You know we we we think about it. And they're over two million people that are serving in the armed forces now today. You know that I mean. That's an astonishing number there. What three hundred sixty million people in America? So I think that over two million. They put the uniform on every day. It's I think a testament to our great country. You know I remember Terry Back when Uncle Cy was in the Kentucky Derby he was owned by wounded warrior. Stables chip. Mcewen I partnered with chip to host We at that time. Hris had a box it at Churchill box of six and I donated it to wounded warrior stable to host A group of Gold Star families and wounded veterans And it was rewarding things. Yeah one of the most rewarding things I've ever done and you know to to talk to those parents of the children that were lost into to talk with the veterans who had lost limbs and were just so positive and so thankful the be at the Kentucky Derby that was I forget about horse racing. That was one of the most rewarding things I have ever been part of in my entire life. Yeah so I definitely agree might get It it's tough when you try to put into words. The pain and suffering on one side but the real optimism for a great future All all those people that That are part of the other Gold Star family network. You know I I was thinking about it since the first world war there's been over six hundred and fifty thousand Americans that have given the ultimate sacrifice close. You know that that's an amazing number but so Y- of all the things you think about. You think what comes to mind. A lot for me is the fact that they've all those all those people that serving and to give the ACURA ultimate sacrifice right. They did it for us and our military now. We're going to do it for future generations and that's the beauty of America is is. We're we're constantly trying to get better I but the overriding factor overrunning thought is that freedom is not free and the great thing about Memorial Day's we have a shot to pause and to reflect and to to really give. Thanks and I do know that that means a lot to the people that Are are today wearing the uniform so I- I urge everybody you know To continue to pray and and to give thanks to the service members in our past our present and also a the kids who are are growing and are getting are going through their life that at one point in the future. They're gonNA join the military because really we need a strong military and there's no other organization. I mean bar none in the world. That's as strong and as as it is as effective as the military in America. So it's it you know we we do have our problems in our country But the one thing that every one of us can be proud of is our military and The all the service members that we have. So I You know those kind of things and thoughts really bring a smile to my face every time Every time I go into Memorial Day weekend and I'll be thinking about all those people over the next couple of days as I try to on a on a very regular basis but especially on Memorial Day. Yeah very well said and I can tell you this Everybody that Terry Finley Took the time to meet with some of those gold star families that I was privileged to be involved with it the Kentucky Derby back in two thousand fourteen and Terry I know that meant a lot to them and I don't meant a lot to you too. So thank you for taking the time to do that and You know look I mean. This is a as you said. A data reflected data to remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice. And we will do so over the next couple of days for sure And we thank each and every one of them for their sacrifices but Yeah look you are involved now with horse racing. And you have built West Point thoroughbreds into one of the premier ownership groups in the game Walk me back through how Terry Finley goes from being a west point graduate to now being one of the ownership titans in the sport of thoroughbred racing. How'd you get involved? Well I think I I spent eight years in the military but I always loved the Horse Business. I remember as a kid I worked at the race track and you know I worked on a race Horse Farm in New Jersey Colts Neck New Jersey and I always in back of my mind that if if I add a shot you know if there was some way and there was some how I could get into the business and I could in a sustainable way I was going to try to do it so I got out in nineteen ninety four And I I said you know if I'm ever GONNA I I've gotta do it now and I just remember I said. Let me give this until I was aged. Thirty five which was probably six or seven years after that And I'll I'll try to make it sustainable and You I'd say you take it back to the military you know one of the things that the military teaches you and I think is very beneficial to young kids the put the uniform today it teaches you to be persistent and it teaches you to to to push through and the and keep going and I I you obviously you have to have those traits to be successful in any line of work or any endeavor and I really think it's helped me with my outlook In the racing business especially the first of my career when things weren't as easy. I'm not saying they're easy now. But you know trying to get something started in the business where you didn't really have a background And any contacts in the business. That was a challenge. But that's the beauty of our business is everybody has a shot if you come and you work and you work hard every day you do the right things on a regular basis you know you have a shot to get In our business to a higher and higher level and for that I really appreciate the you know the business in the industry and you know what I've gotten a lot I've got a lot out of the business And I really endeavoured To give it give to get back to the industry and I see more and more people across the industry that are really intent on giving back to our great industry and for that you know that brings a smile to my face as well Mike. Yeah great words Terry and listening to you talk about the persistence aspect of it and getting started in the business and not having any contacts or knowing anybody and having to do it ronit it took me back to when my wife and I moved into the twenty years ago. Yeah and we didn't know anybody. I just wanted to get involved. I am not good around horses so I couldn't work around horses by remember sitting down with on. Never Forget Bennie. Belen Ruthie Bowen. And they took time to make a list of all of the different people. I could go talk with in in the business and they were. Gd Van Cleef and Nick. Nicholson and I'm thinking. There's no way on earth these people are going to WanNa take take an appointment with me and you know what they all did. And I'll never forget what what Benny and Ruthie did for me. I'll never forget all of the people that took the time to meet with me when I came to Kentucky and it sounds like you did things the same exact way. Well yes I would say and You know one actually. That conjures up a thought. We're not as nice to people who are new business as we probably should be an industry whether you know we're talking about people who are looking to get into ownership or or to make a career out of out of our business and I think that's probably wanted to areas of upside that that we have right we need new blood and and and news thinkers and new ways of doing things and the way you get there is as you bring people who who are new And they don't really have a feel for business and the inner workings I mean. We all know that when you look at this business from the outside the barriers to entry and the complexities are really substantial. And I I. I really do. I try to do that. I try not to downplay the fact that you know. I've been around the business for over forty years And I think one of my responsibilities and our responsibilities is to get people in to give them a good view about business and I'm not talking about just the good stuff I'm talking about the good the bad and the ugly and I think when we do that we have you a real good shot to get more and more people in our business but we gotta be nice to them up front and we can't look at them as just a new be. That doesn't really know anything about a business. That's the way we get people. I filter in. So I just bring it up as an aside talking Terry Finley from West Point thoroughbreds here on this Memorial Day weekend program Terry with that in mind is one thing. I hear from perspective new owners who are hesitant to get involved visit. Look you've gotTa have millions of dollars? It's the sport of kings and that perception is still there with thoroughbred racing. If you get involved with owning racehorses can you make money doing it and should that be your mindset going in or should you look at this as being a hobby and let's go have some fun and let's not lose a bunch of money? Well I I think the vast majority of Snow Mike. It's the ladder Very very difficult very difficult. But you know I I say to people look especially with the turbulence in our industry over the last fifteen months or so and And the turbulence in the world you know they'll be contraction of our industry. I you know to what extent obviously we'll we'll find out at some point in the future but but that's GonNa afford us some opportunities especially owners to run for bigger purses albeit Although albeit they'll be fewer racehorse book or Race tracks open so you're hoping that the economic model gets a little bit better but you know no doubt. It's a very difficult model and what I think most of the of the really good partnerships and there are quite a few of them out there or the people who get owners into the business. I think the right thing to do is is is to put in front of them the fact that this is a lifestyle investment and I think when people when they hear that and and they look at the numbers and and and they realized. Like it's it's the whole compendium outside of the financial aspect. I think they feel a lot more comfortable And they as they venture into our business and disgrace as owners. Well Terri. I'll end this interview the way I started it. Thank you for your service on this Memorial Day weekend and appreciate you spending some time with be here this morning. My friend all the best and you. Can you got like my best to you and and to the team and let's go win some races. Let's go do it Terry. Finley West Point thoroughbreds here on the horse racing radio network. 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The National HCA is a coalition of over thirty individual affiliates in the United States and Canada comprised of thousands of thoroughbred owners trainers and breeders committed to the positive future of thoroughbred racing while working to increase his popularity and uphold the highest standards of welfare and integrity stopped by the visit. Ceo Eric Camelback at the National HP headquarters in Lexington Kentucky and see what the HP? Pa is doing for you. This is Bob Baffert. You're listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the Equine Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network presented by farm paint com sweeping the top of the dockside following hip. Old Justin behind the leader saw what to get second there between as Tom. Durkin with the call of the Nineteen Ninety Nine Breeders Cup Mile. Silic getting the victory the only horse by the way to win both the shoemaker mile and the Breeders Cup Mile and we'll see the shoemaker mile later this weekend Monday as a matter of fact at Santa Anita it is a win in your end for the Breeders Cup Mile Division the first in the United States here in twenty twenty and kicks off the Breeders Cup Challenge series which is still in a bit of flux if you will because of race tracks altering their stake schedules with abbreviated meats and such but no doubt we will get many of those races if not all of those challenge races in as we make our way down the road to the Breeders Cup November six and seven at Keelan. Of course will be there. Is your exclusive radio home once again here on the racing radio network just one hundred sixty seven days away from the Breeders Cup and that will approach quickly Dora. Delgado was when the now she is the vice president of racing and nominations were Breeders Cup in Dora. One hundred sixty seven days is going to be here before we know it. Good Morning yes. It's coming up fast and you know we've all been like you said in a state of flux while we wait for racing to get started again You know even even though it may not have spectators attendance. Were I think everybody across the country? It's just breathing a sigh of relief that we're getting back to a somewhat state of normal. Yeah I think you're right about that talk about the challenges that you in the team. Breeders Cup have been facing trying to put together and keep this challenge series schedule intact with all the alterations and changes. You know. It's really been a complete work in progress. We've we've been very flexible with the tracks that they've tried to sort out which races they're going to have time to run which races they need to drop. Hopefully we're we're All indications seem to be that we're going to keep the majority of the challenge schedule intact That we planned out. But we're still waiting on a few tracks just You know keeneland just announced. They're having missed this small summer. Meet with all the triple crown races kind of moving around. We're we're trying to stay flexible in order to to get the most benefit out to our horsemen if we have to add a race or or drop away somewhere else where we're trying to hold off as long as possible before we had something set in stone. Yeah how important is it to get things finalized quickly so that horsemeat can make their plans. That's right yeah I mean that. That's that's we had twenty nine horses nominated for the shoemaker mile so you can see. There's a lot of interest in getting those forces into races finding that right spot and and getting those win and you're in The event at Keeneland in two thousand fifteen was An incredible very moving event. We had great participation. I think everybody would just really love to make sure that they're there at the end of the year because it's GonNa be a You know what we consider a shining beacon and the horseracing landscape but especially this year. Yeah we touched on it I guess about five or six weeks ago when you join me here on the program that the Breeders Cup is indeed still scheduled for November sixth and seventh here at Keeneland in Lexington. People can go buy tickets. If for some reason. It doesn't happen. Tickets would be refunded but All indications by what's happening here in the state of Kentucky Right now are that we're going to be good for November six and seven so raw keeping our fingers crossed and Again very much a moving target. But we're hoping that everything comes together as planned absolutely. We've been working with the state and local authorities working with a couple of doctors on on adapting. Qianlong's Kobe protocols to the Breeders Cup I was just out of keeneland yesterday. Very simple process. Go and get your temperature taken and get a wristband. These tracks have moved mountains. Getting getting the protocols in place in giving their government officials a sense of of Security knowing that you know everything's going to be done the right way to make sure we. We limit the spread of this disease. You mentioned the large number of nominations that were involved with the shoemaker mile. Coming up on Monday. Which by the way you can watch on. Nbc S N. Beginning at six o'clock eastern time You mentioned those nominations story. Do you think that's going to be the norm with many of these challenge? Races now As racetrack start to open up and start to alter these steak schedules will. We see an overflow of nominations too many of these races. I really think. Tell the the suspension of racing. Excuse me during this. Spring was A little bit of a tightening of the of the purse strings so to speak so a lot of these. These trucks are looking at you know. reducing the first values in some cases just to make sure that they've got enough to to have enough Money in the account to make sure all these states get to take place. The American graded stakes committee has lowered the minimums for graded races just this year. So in order to make sure that we keep the graded stakes schedule as intact as possible. So I think you know. They're they're definitely going to be an accelerated View of trying to get in these raises trying to make sure you've got a spot and getting them all run. You know this this race. The shoemaker mile we actually have four Breeders Cup alumni that race with us in two thousand nineteen Chad Brown sent out courses west sorted marquette. I mean I think that's GonNa be the case as we look over the summer is is really sending those horses. Where where those spots Come up for sure. Yeah taught degree emotional earlier in this hour and taught to him about Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf winner sharing returning to the races and the tap and stakes at Churchill today That card is tremendous. And you'll have many horses that are on that program looking toward Breeders Cup Challenge. Win And you're in races later this summer and into the early fall as well. How about the the situation with the international horses who may attempt to come here for the Breeders Cup or maybe even for some of these challenges Dora. What's the situation involving them so I talked with the USDA the Over the past week there's no restrictions on in any international horses coming into this country The issue comes into being with their handlers Right now there's international travel ban. We're hoping of course that's lifted fairly soon So it it depends on each track at they put in self quarantine rules. Those those handlers would have to come a couple of you know maybe a week early get clear get tested. Get all their their tests in order so in order to be here to receive the horses when they actually shipped in. I think that's a that's definitely a moving target And hopefully that. We won't have a resurgence So bad in the fall that that whatever Travel bans are in place. Now we'll be put back in as far as forces traveling within the country that seems to be a fairly simple Operation as well get your Kobe test before you get on the plane. Present those findings to the to the host track. When you get there. They'll do temperature checks and and and make sure that we're following all the social distancing and the bars not sharing equipment that sort of thing. These tracks have worked really really hard on their protocols. And it's shows yeah it does show and it's it's great to see all of that coming together and you know Breeders Cup in. My opinion is one of those major sporting events. It not just in horse racing. Obviously all of sports and you know every major sport is going through and trying to answer all of these questions now you look at baseball and college football and the NFL and all of these entities who are trying to put the pieces together. And you're it sounds like you guys are in the same boat but not only do you have to do it internally as an organization at Breeders Cup you have to get all the race tracks on board too so I can only imagine what you're going through. Yeah we've we've been in deep into contingency planning you know since this thing started. We're just trying to make sure we've we've accounted for every possible scenario going into the event And we WANNA make sure that that all of the horsemen. That are that want to send. Horses are simple comfort and and Understanding that you know not only their horses will will be taken care of it there. But they're essential stable staff will will not be in any danger. So it's IT'S. It's a lot of moving pieces but you know. I'm I'm a hundred percent confident we can get this done. Yeah how late in the game could you wait Dora to make a decision on Breeders Cup? If for example worst case scenario we had major spikes again around the country and things go back in the lockdown and just the the absolute worst case scenario. How late can you wait before you have to say? Hey you know what? We're not going to be able to do this. Yeah we've you know one of the contingency plans we of course work through. Is You know what if that should happen. What up the Derby has there on September Fifth? There is some sort of spike afterwards. Or there's some issue where the where the state says you know. We're just not comfortable having people together. You need to do at least social distancing or maybe you just have only participants attend so I think we can we can play that by ear through the Churchill downs. Meet the keeneland meet and still have time to to adjust on the fly. Pre entry is two weeks out from when horses Or started two weeks out from the event horses generally ship in the weekend before. So I think we've got time to to make those adjustments and get the word out to everybody Dora Doug Ottawa Breeders Cup here on the horse racing radio network door before I let you go. I'll just tell you that Our new puppy was sitting right here next to me at my home studio one of the benefits of doing the show from home. And he's not happy that you were Frankie. Haven't been out to see him I now. We're dying baby. He's so cute to stop out and see him. He's he's waiting for you in fact so we will definitely absolutely door. I appreciate the visit and keep things rolling in the right direction. I know you will I think for all you do. All right like all of our guests who appear on the program Doors interview brought to you by embraced the race dot com embrace your passion. Where would you love at embrace the race dot com time now for our monthly interview with the folks at four roses? Bourbon bring in Masters Distiller. Brent Elliott join me a few weeks ago to talk about what they are going through in light of Covid nineteen and he started by giving me an update. We're back up and running with steelers running the We're still bottling now. Our business centers course are still closed. Because we can't really control know social distancing of our guests and we don't WanNa put our employees SORTA guests at risk so we're just kind of playing it by ear there and that's doing our best to ride this out. Yeah it's it's been a trying situation for so many people and I know four roses certainly not immune to that. Let's talk suburban than than Brent. Now that you're bottling and everything's back up and running your job is the master. Distiller is to do what now at this point? It's about the same as ever. I've been focusing a lot. Last couple of weeks on Single barrel selections and every week is different. It's you know all the control whether it's bottling story mingling blending but last week up focusing a lot on Two weeks on sliding barrels for single barrel. So and that's that never stops whether this the celery shutdown or You know spring fall summer. Whatever it is. We're always on a lot of single barrel and we're selling more and more every year. So that's been consuming. A lot of my time here recently is going through hand selecting batches and looking individual barrels and giving those two bottling to go ahead and use for for balling single barrel. That's interesting what? What are you looking for. Brent when you start looking at those barrels part of the I guess the magic of a single barrel is that every barrel aged differently. Each one has its own flavor characteristics. So I know the consumer expects variation from barrel to barrel. But you don't want to have something that is so far different from the typical single barrel profile that you you're forcing consumer to buy something that will surprise them so you WanNa keep it within that sort of a range and that range. The flavors are always mellow smooth. That's true for all of our bourbons but we're looking for a Nice Ri- Backbone Nice. Why spice some delicate fruit of course A nice finish were caramel vanilla and oftentimes. You'll see some cinnamon nutmeg. And some baking spices come through. So I know it's hard to to taste when I'm just describing words but that's kind of the best way to describe the flavor profile of what you'd expect from a typical single barrel and what we look for in batches and barrels that we we select for for that product. Right you're the best brother. Keep up the great work and thanks for taking a few minutes. A few minutes with me here this morning on H. R. N. I thank you Mike. 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The Matt Bernier Show - Preview Edition - June 14, 2019

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The Matt Bernier Show - Preview Edition - June 14, 2019

"Tappin. Welcome in the map, Bernier showed DR TV, Miami's map Bernie, and you can follow me on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. This is the preview edition. We are taking a look at some of the graded stakes action from Churchill Downs on Saturday, June. The fifteenth will go over the five graded stakes races. Not necessarily dive deep into them. Just give you some thoughts in some, some fields survived going into those races. We'll see what the weather ends up actually shaking down, as because it looks like it might be some thunderstorms forecast, but nonetheless, we'll go over these races. However, you listen to this. Thank you for doing so YouTube sound cloud. I tunes video dot the dot com as well Spotify, however you listen, please rate review in subscribe questions, comments or concerns beneath the video player on YouTube or directly to me on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. No, I'm not recording this in a library and I'm also not an underground bunker, I'm in a hotel in Louisville. I'm trying to be respectful to the neighbors so not speaking to loudly getting. Ready for the dean foster show tomorrow night. NBC SNL dates thirty on part of the reason not gonna give you pictures because of that you're gonna need to go over there and check that out, but also because I still have a little bit of work that needs to be done. And again, that weather forecast is a little bit on the on the odds side. So the reason I am in a much quieter tone than I normally am at my little home office is because of that reason. Sure AJ in the folks back in New York. If it's too loud, or too soft other they can crank it up a little bit. Or you on your computer our Viollis into this thing you can crank it up also the reason that there is no visuals that this is just going to be audio only this week discount bring everything along on the road. So let's go through take a look at some of these races. Just give you some thoughts, some opinions only going over the graded stakes races fifth. Matt win the grade three race for three year olds eight and a half on the main track. You know there's not a ton of speed in this race. I think everyone's gonna look at Mr. money for a number of reasons how productive that Pat Day mile has been those for how awesome he looked that day to me, though, that was part and parcel, because of the turn back to a one, turn, configuration. I feel like he might be a big player in races. Like the h Allen jerkins over the summer and going forward in those sort of seven turn, seven for long term miles, not guessing. He can't win this race. I personally prefer him more at the one term variety though. And that's you know, you take a look at some of the other horses in near I suppose proverb is going. Before replace the long we've Knicks, go Kaynak's go. But neither of them really get me going. I found it very interesting that no low contest. Oh, we shipped here for John Sadler. I know gift box. Maybe he just needed a friend to come along with him, but there's grade three race out at Santa Anita on Sunday afternoon for three year olds noble contest. Very easily could have stayed home run in that race. Instead he comes here to Churchill Downs to run in this spot. It feels like a nice starting off point for a horse that if you've listened any of these things in the past, you know, I'm a big fan of Nola contest. I think he's going to turn into a nice horse is paired up by tops of eighty eight. I think you might be looking at the forward move here that if I had to make a pick in here as much as I do, like Mr. money, I just wonder if he'll be better at one turn of goes, no contest. Oh, in the fifth that Churchill and Saturday night. The grade three Matt win who've onto the wise, Dan. This is going to be one of the three races covered on the NBC S N show, violence, sixteen on the grass is a really nice field. You've got some some interesting horses coming into this thing, especially coming off of long layoffs. You know, you get a horse like it's in the post. Again, anyone that's paid attention or stakes previews over on video dot the dot com or anywhere else knows how much I think of it's in the post, he's really talented horse, but boy, it feels like he took his game to the next level at longer distances. And we haven't seen him since August of last year to me, this feels like nothing more than a means to an end. Maybe this is just an instant get a race into him. You get him back to del. Mar you get him ready for a race like the Eddie read the del mar handicap or whatever it may be. But guess start somewhere? Maybe that's what this is just kinda shaking the rust off. You know, you could look at some other logical orces like inspector Linley. I've never been almost they've never been a big fan of his age. I don't I don't totally trust him. I just I'm not totally convinced that he is really of the upper echelon it again. He might just be one of those horses for showbiz. They get older and older. They continue to improve. But I don't know that I need him at a short price in a race like this. Maybe I'll pick. And maybe I won't knows admission office, the horse that ran second to Catholic boy and the Dixie. He's interesting coming from off the pace showed a little bit of versatility to starts back. Right. Maybe can be a little bit closer to the pace, if it doesn't develop it really is just kind of a wide open race bourbon resolutions wildcard trying turf for the first time, L P Caro for natural courageous in heavier a bit of a wildcard. Don't let this look like first time in the states. I think the horse in most intriguing with right now. I, I don't want to say, I'm again, he's not going to necessarily be the pick, but the one most intrigued with at the moment is marched to the arch get a little bit more tape to watch. But it's an instance where I thought he really well against better horses in that turf. Classic most recently scenario where class relief. This time around the run to starts back was really solid. I know it was a Florida breadsticks race down at Tampa, but he's always hinted at a horse. It's got some big ability now. Maybe he's just a horse that really fires fresh off the bench you go through, and take a look at his two most recent layoffs. He's come back, and he was a winner both times off that but again, I don't wanna totally say that I'm gonna marry myself they but March to the arches intriguing candidate in this spot for me that would be the grade to wise. Dan sixth race. Remove onto the two big races. The co headliners call the floor to Lee in these Stephen foster. Flirt, lease the seventh raise nine for a long on there. No real shocker in here. I mean the class of the fields Elat the question now is, is this, the same a late in that we have come to grow in? No, what she's all about I thought or two races at Oklahoma pedestrian at best, I just didn't think she was just didn't think she really ran all that. Well, in either of them I gave her the is area. So maybe she needed race which he came back, and I thought she was just sort of blah, in the apple blossom now look, she's midnight, who came back last weekend at Belmont, made that race, look very, very solid. But at the same time, I go back to the personal ensign or Hearn, Abel, Tasman, put on absolute show. It will Tasman was never the same after that. And I wonder if the same going go for a late Etta short price. I'm probably not going to be ended a going to be ending up on her just because again, I don't know that the values there and I don't know that you can still run the way that she wants did not saying that you can't win this race. But at the price is like it'd be just doesn't really do much for me. Boop prize understand folks look at her. She's got a beautiful. Record at Churchill Downs. That figure she needed a race off the bench second off. She takes step forward. She right. Well here in the Breeders Cup last year. I should won the spinster at Keeneland. Keep in mind that was the day that she was about fifteen paths off the rail when she floated out down the lane she makes sense in here again. But I don't think she has any tremendous edge. I'd be, I'm probably gonna bunch. She's Jewish paired up by tops ninety six I don't leave his distances in issue as she ran arrivals out in the Alabama last year the launch ROY end was gutsy effort. She went got those horses that were front over. She had that nice prolonged stretch duel with secret spice, second off the bench for asthma than I think she moves forward here. She also has the ability before the placed in a race that doesn't look like a ton early gas in here. You know, I wonder if skeptic from the inside you have no choice but to go if that's the case, she's Julie parks, just off. She hasn't go a Ricardo Santana consent. She's jewelry to the front that come and catch me. She probably were all land in the floor to Lee we go onto the Stephen foster. Look, this is. I know got downgraded to a grade. Two is a great one field. You take a look at these horses at a mile on an eight I didn't think gift box would be showing up here. I didn't think a number of these horses were showing up in the spotlight this, but here we are gift box, obviously, the horse to beaten spot the Gold Cup effort. Most recently thought was good in India was brilliant by any stretch of they're just gonna going up and down in vino. So at the end of that race, but any of his last three races make him a major player in this spot? Little bit of a quick turnaround only about three weeks. But you have to trust with John Sadler's doing here, and this is a win win for the bridge Cup classics or you're gonna understand why this field is large as it is. I think I quit. I've never been a huge fan of his you know that, that brought down at Oaklawn it was solid. Don't get me wrong but over a sloppy sealed track, and it was a complete blanket finish. Usually, those are the kind of racist, that I'm going to be taken a stand against got to do a little bit more homework on that, before I actually commit to or but Yoshida on the far outside. I'm not convinced that. Dirt is actually what is best surfaces. I still think turf may be even with the fact that he didn't run well than at Gulfstream to starts back. I thought his four star Dave given the instance, like okay, maybe it wasn't a great effort. But there was a good amount of cutting at ground. He ran a bang-up raise over ROY Alaska last year, he ran well winning that turf. Classic lasts less bring in, you know, just also say that he's a much better dirt horse than tur- force. I don't know that I entirely by that. He can certainly wins race. You would be one that would appreciate some pace which it looks like there's going to be signed on Tom's. They tie is very intriguing in here, just because this is the horse that giorno match from Kinsey. And yes, he was forward with slow pace down on the inside all the places that you wanted to be that day that they ran the Alysheba that would have been Kentucky oaks Friday. But he's wrong. Well at Churchill in the past. He doesn't have to have the lead. He can go. We can sit just off the effective. He is a little bit intriguing to me a mile in eighth know he's two or three added. But again. Inferior company just needs to prove that he can do this against the best of the best, not hold Pegasus against in to start back in tenfold. I don't love that Pimlico special nuts. Again. I'm not saying I'm not picking him but it seems rather unlikely seeking sole. I'd like them to get him back to one, turn to me, it sort of stands out on the page. Now that the AC Breeders Cup mile over his two best races in a long time, having said that, though from a number standpoint, you just rock, rock-solid you shows up runs his race if he gets a setup in front of him. He'll come with a run a Seton soil ios after respect douse Stewart in these kind of races runaway ghost. I guess if you're looking for sort of a wildcard, or maybe it's him leper takes the mount Todd venture ships this woman from New Mexico. He's really done little wrong throughout his career. The Keeneland race on just drawn drawing a line through that couldn't really get any sort of position early on that pays held up that day his runs at to turn, I think or better than his one turn raises. And he comes into this on the heels of a five and a half length victory in, I. I get it was against far inferior company, but I do think it's an instance where perhaps, you look at him and say, if you're not sold on any of the other, short prices runaway goes can be followed to place. He's in good form. He's not that far off from speed figure standpoint definitely needs to improve. But it's not like he's a hopeless long shot in here. And you draw Peru who was Clinton at about twenty two percent strike? Right. Right now, he's a little bit. Interesting. Still have some work to do for the Stephen foster. But I think this is fascinating race. Can go a number of ways, and the last graded stakes race at Churchill I should say, as far as thoroughbreds are concerned because I believe they wrap things up tomorrow night with an Arabian race which I've Nigerian touch on next. I have no idea about any of those horses. The great three regret for three rolled Vilis nine on turf. This is a really nice rates, as well visually to me there to orces that make all the sense in the world. You've got a horse like hungry kitten who broke the main derby weekend. I thought visually spectacularly. But granted very, very fast paced to run. At from number standpoint, doesn't really have any kind of. Engine to be honest needs to improve to be competitive. Some of these other ones in Veronica. Everyone in their brother saw that run from Veronica Belmont, when she came back for motion, GM salute exploded home AVI or had a wrapped up for about eight of mile visually was phenomenal from a number standpoint, though, a little bit light from time form number standpoint needs to improve. She doesn't have the highest last out buyer in the field would be curious, though, to see where she's positioned in a race like this because when he goes through the field, not Las beedon's race. And I think that's what makes Princessa caroliina on the far outside is intriguing issue is not only because she has a number of speed figures that are fast enough to win this race. But it feels like she's comfortable going to the front. And I, I would assume the instructions for Brian is union going to be descend from the outside clear off try to back down the pace a little bit, and then have something where you can kick home, a obviously, you're going to have a major tactical advantage on the big girls in the spot. But then other really good race. It's a nice night of racing at Churchill Downs. Number one, winter sunset make some sense in here. You got a horse like Delta's kingdom for Bill Maher who each of the past three races earned seventy four buyers. You know, it's one of those instances where you can make case if you wanted to get creative for some of these longer prices, I don't think it's a crazy crazy thought that you could go out there and say you don't why not a horse card legacy for norm. Cassie from a number standpoint that most recent run in the Appalachian. Sure, no match for the top three but the one three time form rating that stacks up pretty favorably, getting back the firm Thurlow maybe that's what she wanted all along. So you can get a little bit q. I think in some of these races here tomorrow at Churchill Downs. It's going to be a good night of racing. Hopefully the weather holds off last. I looked looks like we've got a chance of some thunderstorms roll through. That's the case, obviously sort everything goes goes kinda haywire, but to be interesting to see what we get from a number of these big names, obviously, the Stephen foster that's headline or go headline event anyway. That just seems like it's a bit of a wide open race with the exception. Look, if you think give boxes just that good. Then I'm not gonna lie. Argue with you. I'm going to sit there and say, you know what? Dick, the chalk, and go on, with in maybe he'll stamped himself as I don't wanna say, stamp himself sort of reclaim a claim to being the best of the best for the older horses after we saw those big performance last weekend in the met mile in as far as the Phillies in marriage are concerned it may be a short field but I think he's going to go a long way into determining what we do with a late going forward, or what we think of her name, she can still run the way that she three and four year old or that personal ensign which is kinda my working theory, the debt just take some of the starch out of her in a very similar fashion way did with Abel Tasman if that's the case. Maybe she'll be a little bit vulnerable short field. Like I said, that's probably the one I'm going to commit to at this point. I can't imagine knock on with she's jewelry in that Florida. But there's still some work to do with some of these other races. Thanks for bearing with me this week as far as the late pod is concerned, novato either next week. We'll get back to everything. However, you listen to his YouTube soundcloud items. Video dot the dot com or Spotify. Thanks for doing so questions, comments concerns being video player on YouTube or directly me on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt, wherever you. Listen. Please rate review and subscribe, I will be back early next week. It'll be on Monday with the recap petition going back taking a look at some of these races for as much as we can. Because unfortunately won't be able to show too much refers replays, concerned doubled dive into some of these, and then get you sort of ready to go for what's still to come. Guess what? We're only something crazy like three and a half weeks from Saratoga with this new shortened ups sort of the short up the, the lengthened Saratoga schedule. It's right around the corner. Delmore is right around the corner, just because the triple crowns in the rear view doesn't mean that the racing year N's continue on into in my opinion. Drip grounded out of the way we have bigger and better things ahead of us. We got the summer meets. We've got Keeneland in the fall, and obviously we have the Breeders Cup still got some time. So thanks again, for baron with me here this week, I'll be back in the sort of normal setup. A Monday with recap show back at home. Good luck this weekend. However, you play whatever you play wherever you play spend the preview of the map on your show.

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Full Show (Brady's last season? Dak a rookie fluke?, Patrick Mahomes, Clippers/Lakers, Jalen Hurts)

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

1:58:30 hr | 1 year ago

Full Show (Brady's last season? Dak a rookie fluke?, Patrick Mahomes, Clippers/Lakers, Jalen Hurts)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host jerry taft. This podcast is the full show from today's episode. Soda undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate so skip shannon. Let's get to it welcomed undisputed. We are live from los angeles. I'm jenny taft here with skip. Bayless shannon sharpe good morning show before we get started allow me to present ginny with a gift from little wayne that was sent to me with my gift from no yes no. Are you serious. This is the best thing ever uh-huh oh my gosh you guys in best friends. I doubt buying all shannon. All didn't close note turn the two gifts that he sent to me. I'm going to read that note here skip. I wanted to give you a little something to thank you for having me on the show so often. I also sent shannon something just so he wouldn't feel left left out. The inference was that that ours were a little better than here's let me. Can you say cubic zirconiums. Call now we know. Can you say that about shannon off like oh come on is the nicest gift john. Thanks yeah wow on the show every day. That was really special. I feel really feeling good. I love title. I love them. I mean <hes> you know. You say you had to take your first look today. Twenty seconds today is my sister's fifty nine th birthday happy birthday every birthdays. Your name is not olivia. Your name is libby book. She's telling everybody on name is olivia <music>. She's younger sister abby yoga's every forty two well. Happy birthday heard it means. We're gonna have a good date and we have a packed show. Let's get on with the eagles we can serve the cars might now in season the dax rookie year a fluke hers. We'll talk about it. I we are going to start with the goat pro football focus rank. Tom brady as the number one and starting quarterback heading into the season the patriots also remain the betting favorites to win the super bowl according to our friends at fox bet but at forty two two years old many are wondering how much more brady has left in the tank has contract makes it easy for the patriots to part ways with the quarterback after this season and remember number is also put up his boston area home on the market. E._s._p._n.'s adam schefter said from the outside looking in this has the potential to be brady's final season in new england. Brady is expected to get his first and last preseason action tonight as the patriots take on the panthers so channon. Do you think this is brady's last last year in new england scooby doo kind of said that all along. I really felt that twenty years. I didn't say it was going to be his last year playing in football but i feel it would be his last year in new england and and there are a lot of indicators and i didn't at the time when i said there's a couple of years ago skip but you'll put his house on the market obviously but i just think the biggest indicator for me is is that tom brady has made it abundantly clear. He wants to play until he forty five. Mr kraft who owns the team has made the bundy abundantly clear he believes. Tom camp play only two he forty-five my only concerns work concerns yet question was if you believe that and tom is still playing at the level that you deem. That's high goldfish. Why would you give him an eight million dollars. Signing bonus only seventy million dollars extension. You could have easily given split the difference because normally you get fifty anywhere between fifty to seventy five percent of your money guaranteed but he only got eight million dollars so basically you gave them an eight million dollar bonus this year on top of the fifteen million that he was already making you know i don't want to sneeze and say twenty three man but can considering what the quarterback market is going forward now and who tom brady. Is you know goodwill. They should have given him thirty five forty fifty million dollars. They get fifty million dollars. I'm not gonna be arcadia lead. Tom brady to make it fifty billion because i think he's deserved. He's earned the and if you believe what he said to be true that he wants to play until he's forty five and he's going to continue to plant the level of which he's playing it. Why why wouldn't you do that and then when you start looking at look obviously scale a serious injury. Something happened normally do this for anybody but i don't want to see i don't what does he have to leave because of a premature in injury if he wants to continue to play but i just think there are signs that indicate and i thought this would have been sped up. Hey jimmy g stayed but clearly what was the jimmy situation where resolve by mr craft. I just believe coach. Belichick went back into the draft found him the quarterback that he likes jason jason statham and he says okay jerry's got stood him up and he says okay josh kojima because guilt for me. You and i both believe the metric system. He believes that he can get any other piece. I don't care what position you play. What side of the ball you play on on. He believed that he can go get him a guy and bidding and never miss a beat their indicators and i feel that this is his last year in so jenny. I think we have some revisionist history going on across the table about predictions that have been made things have been said on this show up for and i think somebody is revising advising went. Somebody has said before because somebody across me. If memory serves has predicted for three straight years here on undisputed that this will be not. Tom brady's final season of football but somebody has now revised that prediction to include well gee it might not be as last season of football but it will be his last season in new england says she i don't know i said it would be his last year in new england now he might have to go somewhere else and continue but i the recall. This is a new twist to the plot on your part. I was i was sitting pretty until mr crab may coach bill jim gee. I would have been right if you know it okay but you were saying this. Is it for football for tom brady so you would have been half right. I guess s. but he would have continued playing football elsewhere. I still believe you're gonna continue okay in so here's what you're telling me that the quarterback and by the way yesterday yesterday you were all for pro football focuses ranking of dak prescott at seventeenth dead right dead right right right okay now can and we say they got it dead right that tom brady is number one on the list tom brady at going into your forty two really he's number one. On how about this. I can see why they put him number one on their list for the simple fact i guess they took a couple of years of data but he wouldn't be number one on mine. I would have the homeboy now mccain. So which way is it. Did they get it right about. Dak wrong about brady will kill you all the time. Two things can be true. They could get one right and one wrong okay but let's look at their breakdown of tom. Brady and it was very objective is almost overly objective because they also agree with you that he took a step back last year. I did not see that. I didn't see that in the room with me or you disagree with you but they're takeaway line on this expect more of the same from tom brady in twenty nineteen nineteen so if we can project from this that we're going to see pretty much the same brady we saw last year. The guy who beat mahomes twice beat aaron rodgers. There's one at chicago. Do i need to go on and on had the number one seed soda arnold bill belichick blew the game at miami marcus mariota loved matthew stafford and he somehow rose above those losses to have them in position to have the one seed last year until belichick allowed the miami miami miracle at the end of that game well ahead of auto miracle. Does he not preside over the special teams right you so the point is this guy who's ranked number one by pro football focus and they're predicting he will have just the same kind of year last year in which he won the super bowl. His team is now once again favored with no gronkowski to win. This upcoming super bowl that that guy is going to somehow somehow failed to the point that that robert kraft will agree with bill check. It's time to cut bait with tom brady. Is that what you're saying. That's what you're telling me. I said okay and so we look at the schedule of the new england patriots and i told you back before the draft back in early april. It was after headquartered unquote retired hard. We don't know if you will stay retired the whole year but i looked at the schedule. I said this is easy. Bhai new england standards so again or the jets better yes. They're better have if they had a couple of big losses in their linebacker for the last couple of days. Yes they have but are they better all over all around football team yes. They're a little better. Are they. Good good enough to unseat new england in the division. No they are not is buffalo better than they were. Yes they're better quarterbacks one year more experience and he does have some capabilities. Are they good enough to win a game against new england this year. No they're not as miami taking a step back in the division. Yes miami is taking a step back with the new head coach under bill fits. I thought you like his magic there to you though you already and they win a couple of games right they probably will but the point is i stick by what i said. I believe that new england will lose to pittsburgh in the opener at new england because i liked the steelers this year and in thirteen and three and maybe it could be better than that because i just don't see anything dangerous on the schedule and the to the what's the most dangerous game for new england every year. It's the late season game at miami. That's always the nemesis for tom brady. They get to go to miami and we too so they will be coming out out of summer. In new england drippy summer dislike it feels just like miami to me and then they get to go september fifteenth to miami they get out of the white guess who they get to finish with at home against the bills and the dolphins you like what was given a look you argue that we can look at the schedule all we want to but you also know that there comes a time time that get teams that you think not gonna be good will be good team that you think that's going to be good will be bad okay but for me. If you're you you said the article about he took a step back well if you took a step back in two thousand eighteen and you spent more than twenty nineteen what they're telling you they're just saying he'll play just the way he did last year but he took a step back okay okay but again if he took a step back from all-time greatness to pretty great. Was it good enough to get them to the super bowl last year and win in it yes it was just because that was good enough in twenty eighteen doesn't mean to be good enough in twenty nineteen okay so let's do glasses half empty. Let's do your your scenario hypothetical. Let's say that for whatever reason julian elements just now coming back from his broken hand and who knows when josh gordon will be able able to play in kiel harry the kid they drafted late in the first round who i love and i think could change tom. Brady's life has some lower leg injury that kept him out of much of camp so let's just say they get off to a rocky start and they lose that miami and whatever and we'd go on into a shaky year but they still wind up. Let's say they have to go to kansas city again dan to play the a._f._c. championship game and this time andy reid and patrick homes figure it out and they hold off tom brady and they win the game because they have improved their defense defense just enough to do that. Do you think that robert kraft in his right mind would cut bait with tom brady after another a._f._c. Championship happy chip game which would be their ninth street so they've gone to nine straight years of championship games or better yet. You really think you do that by just don't put you know i just told you. I believe it's going to be of last year. Okay whether it's coaching call with us mr kraft's call or maybe tom's always mr harass koldo. Oh where the thompson i've had enough of this. Y'all taking taking me for granted not paying me without properly worth worth. Yes i took taking less money but but i deserve to be compensated fairly on the back end whatever the case may be yes. I believe twenty twenty this year. His twentieth in new england will be his last guy. I want to be completely absolutely on record. This will not be. Tom brady's last year playing football or playing for the new england patriots. I'm going to be very clear about that i a._m. On record in concrete he will play next year in new england and the next year in new england because it's just too good to be true and robert kraft loves loves. Tom brady far more than he loves bill belichick. I'm sorry but he always sunny but he but he loved winning and you know coach. Belichick is the main reason why he continued to do. There's no he realized that he he's been one hundred forty eight hundred fifty million dollars by a patriots and there work like three points five point single. He believes so strongly and bill belichick. Why did he say bill. I'm sorry you're wrong about jimmy. G. trade him. Why did he say that. The furthest you're right it would skip appeals for is the first and last time i mean you don't win all the arguments. Do you sometime this uptown. She leads matt win and make you feel good missed. Coach belichick had to get his hand slapped lap. Mr cramp bill billy called the billy billy winning. All these things stand pat on this one but the next time i'm gonna let you have your way okay so let's do the hypothetical that will never happen. Which is tom brady. Go next year if in fact i don't know if they would try to trade him. They would probably really do him. The service to him. The justice of just saying go pick like peyton was able to just go free agent. Do you wanna go peyton. I think i'll i'll go to denver right and magic happen right skipping of look you we all know just like peyton had his choices. Okay you know tennessee with interested. The broncos arosemena san francisco. Tom brady is going to have somewhere between six and ten teams unless they have a true established starter. One of these top leslie top ten gav live. He's not gonna go there but there will be some situations that t._v. Will be willing to even if they find the guy that they'll be willing to get off for. Tom brady because at the end of the day he is tom. Tom brady and the broncos signed. Payton in painting was coming up next door. Just give he could barely thought about ten yards up in the bronx. We know tom brady can throw the ball for the ten yards. Okay and i'm just saying denver's. I'll through. It'd be high on that list. You imagine do you think joe flaco you think they're wedded to joe flacco till death do they don't worry about the fact they elope okay if not even fishing and and a couple of years ago tom brady was reportedly interested in going back to his home area because we're up a forty niner fan and now they have his <music> backup quarterback who is about to be his next quarterback right and i don't know if jimmy garoppolo continues to play the way he pooling last free tonight komo him way too much money. I'm going to say that's not going to happen even though the forty niners appear to me to be a team on the verge where he might get there right just the right there is a real possibility skill okay and you know we gave we give a lot of control of what you need okay and here. I'll throw one more curve ball elect you. Tom brady also loves him some southern california because he giselle have owned a home here near where lebron lives in brentwood and there's another team in l._a. Not named the rams. It's called the chargers coach by a good friend of yours and i. I'm just going to say what if philip rivers chris comes up short yet again this year you realize he's destined to be a free agent after this year so is it possible they would cut bait with philip rivers and say yes. Yes we would love tom. Brady take over our team on the verge because that is a loaded football team they are are. They need to get going back. I i like him and blue and orange better do little payton all of a sudden you would be driving the tom brady bandwagon in blue and orange greg. I'm in the money so here's where i'm with you. I believe bill belichick would love for this to be tom brady's last year. I am already suspicious of the way tom bill. Belichick is handling. Tom brady's preseason snaps and i can't wait for tonight to see exactly if in how long tom brady plays because i told you a a year ago in game two he played thirty nine snaps and through twenty six passes that was gained two of the priests this game to suddenly shockingly. He played zero right. Why was that he wanted to play coach. Bill said no so now we get to the quote unquote dress rehearsal game three and will he be allowed to play or is it possible that bell chac will some mysteriously say some way say no. I don't wanna play in this situation. You take the situation jamie like you. Okay you kind of like it but you like. I kind of wish me but you don't want to be the bad guy. Coach belichick spellcheck wants to move the ball but he really we're talking with. Your breakup. Says you know what guys i just wanna so guy love to feature jeered stick them in the dress rehearsal game three months. He would just so he could make the case mr craft you see what i found again. I got got my new jimmy g. E. and i think the thing is coach. Belichick looks at skip because the backup quarterback takes all the scout teams rips and a lot of times coach belichick. Check might throw a little coach better. Check my little wrinkle in there. He says look this guy sees matzec. Especially in training camp sees my defenses all the time yup and i'm the great defense of mine in a field right now and maybe ever if he can handle what i can throw at him. Yeah i know if i put him in the system and i'm and i need him to play and play well after what i've thrown at him. There's no question in my mind can stand up to the pressure because look they're always coating always observing and they know coachella check really knows who can do what winning how so i think a lot of that. That's at play here. There is something because jimmy garoppolo was not playing it a lot of gave. There's something that led coachella check to believe that he can move on from. Tom brady and would not miss a beat with jimmy garoppolo considering that jimmy had never gotten in the game and that's not by accident. 'cause tom brady does not quarterbacks good quarterbacks. They don't want you ever looking at another quarterback in a game situation and get getting any bright ideas that you can move on without me that is correct. I'm going to say it one more time about jeered stood. I watched a lot of him at baylor first and then a much more at auburn and he is athletic and run. We've seen him running this preseason. You can takeoff and he can motor. Yes got a nice arm got nice stature about him but under fire at auburn and some of their biggest games his poise under fire left something to be desired. That's just me with no baylor you know they throw the ball around so he had a lot experience throwing the ball around in ballot access yup. Yeah yeah and throw the ball. Does he have potential yes. Could i see bell. Check falling in love being enamored of him. I can tom brady in his weekly. Weekly w. e. Appearance was asked the other day. Do you wanna play in preseason game number three and he said boy. I hope i play again. We had practice yesterday. We practiced today and then we'll see what coach decides. I hope to be out there. We'll see what happens again. He always defers to whatever coach says i have to do because tom has always been cultural but to me we will see. I can't wait for kickoff tonight to see how long tom last if he gets it's to play at all and if he doesn't get to play you're going to hear sabotage for me. That was thanksgiving because this bill normally does what someone he does the opposite the tom said well you know i don't really care. I've been yada yada. He's gonna play so talk. Hey it's gonna lead up to him hoping coach. Tom wants to sit down. He's gonna play look code. Check when you have those kind of credentials gift bear little that you do get question. That's why we didn't get the whole you you did but there were a lot of people that really questioned the move that they called your check made in the super bowl benching malcolm butler because so many of his other moves have worked out so well and when you get sick super bowls in nine appearances you you build up a little you know a good service and then people like okay. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt on that one bunch of patriots patriots question that move right after that gay. Tom brady appeared to question that move in subdued the last jedi you sabotage a couple of your relationship to loan waco uh-huh yeah. 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He has yet to play in the preseason and he's not expected to play tonight against against the ravens once said regardless of whether he plays tonight or not he will be ready to go week one so shannon. How concerned are you. That wentz won't play and he snaps before four-week one. I'm not really concerned because i think the risk of picking up a unwarranted injury <hes> ways being off a little bit and for me i i think the thing is that they've seen the backups go downscale and they see the injury history with carson over the last two years and maybe they'd like why risk it. Yes ask you would like to see for me. I was a guy. I wanted to get rhythm okay if i wanted to have my adrenaline flowing in what was going to be like the breathe and run routes and how people banging on me me in a crowd of eighty thousand people screaming and yelling that's different people like will you know getting practice. Practice is different than a game totally agree so i wanted that some some guys like no. I'm good. I just want to roll out. I couldn't imagine skill playing my last game in january and not playing a meaningful football again until the following september. I i just found it would be hard for me but for carson wentz guilt i think yet will he be a little rusty because he got drafted receiver a very high stanford so so i think he would like to have some timing in a meaningful game in the preseason but the risk of injury given his history and knowing that your backups have gone down. There is no nick foles now. You just signed a guy that had a job similar so you would our skilled a week ago. You decide him. He was wearing a shirt and tie one day the next day he got parakeets and shoulder pad up so i just think they're they're being overly cautious but i'll tell you this. I just believe if this kid could get past dishes with no injuries. I believe he will. He will turn the corner just right now early. In his career he just can't get past the injury book and i know that was like because early in my career ideal ankle the knee problem <hes> but once i got past it it was loose from their own so i think i just heard the hall of famer shannon sharpe say out of one side of his mouth will he really has no concerns but on the other side. He said he has grave concerns because he needs to play some breezy. I would like to see him play but i think i think the eagles are looking at it skip. We would rather be him rather have him. A little rusty with his timing is off just a tad as opposed to run the unnecessary risk considering. They've seen the previous here's to backups. Go down with the injury. I am sorry to report this cross tape of you but this is yet another bad sign for limpet to win this or as i call him carson wince w._i._n._c._e. Because every time i think about his injury history i wince you'll make you an cowboy or like last year. He did twice here before we didn't have any body he left. I'm going to say this one more time and i will be right about this. No player in the national football league has more pressure going into this season on him. Then you're still young fairly inexperienced quarterback has on him in now inconceivably he he will play no preseason snaps with several new components on offense especially that deep threat receiver of his so to your point. There's nothing like live game action especially. I mean even if it's just preseason but but you can't practice all you want against the ravens. There's just a level full of intensity there. There's a level of bright lights screaming people that takes it somewhere else when you scrimmage against another the other team you've already been briefed. We're not putting anybody on the ground. We're not gonna do anything crazy but you know come game time. There are already. Everybody is fair fair game. There's no off limits as collar murray then we're talking about right so now you're young quarterback that you love is going into into his fourth day with the most guaranteed money paid him of any player in the national football league and yet his game experience has gone down from he did last sixteen games as a rookie and he was not very good as a rookie and then it fell to thirteen games and he had one great stretch stretch as a second year player then it fell to eleven game so it goes sixteen thirteen eleven the cowboy teams. I covered back in the nineteen. Eighties had a name aim for a player like carson wentz. They called him the egg man the egg man as in fragile as in he's played no preseason this season snaps because he will snap like a twig. If you hit it oh he moved the glass mr glasgow where you go and carson wentz. I'm i'm reading in the camp practices and even the scrimmages against the ravens is trying to run less and less because he just can't risk running when running was a key component of what made carson wentz so good for that stretch in his second year lucia vob really so now deer in headlights. It's kind of wins as you wouldn't be stuck in the pocket trying to speed read when he's not really a speed reader. He's got weapons everywhere. He's got expectations hire loftier than the liberty bell in philadelphia my right yep because you think this team's got a shy yes and yes. They're loaded yeah. They are loaded oded. Possibly shannon super bowl pair by possible it could be. I noticed when in the east and yet all of a sudden your guy walk it to him as you call him wince goes into the season with no more safety net because he got saved by the safety net known as the magic man nick foles both of the last two years which means that your guy arson win has played also zero playoff snaps zero zero. He makes a hundred and eight guaranteed million dollars the most in the n._f._l. With zero playoff experience and fairly limited regular the season changes this year. Oh does really because now he's played in grand total of forty games by god doc who's also going in his fourth years played fifty one games to your guys forty. That's eleven more gains experience. That's pretty significant term deal with miniature down to your guy. Auditing dinkum inducted my got getting big big big plays. My guy is thirty. Three and eighteen is a starter you guys twenty three and seventeen so the losses are pretty close but man my my guys won eleven more games than your guy because my guy wins. That's all he does well. We'll find out is you who wins the most by the way there was a story back somewhere. During the off season there the headline sources inside eagles paint carson wentz as selfish uncompromising and playing favorites. This story went on to say that he refused when he got back into the lineup to run any coordinated he called foal stuff because he resented the hell out of the fact that nick nick foles was beloved in the locker room to the point. They built a shrine to in the locker room but he just the other day. Did you see this came out out and said he is a great leader. A first class human being wait who said that chris long day came out and said. I don't know what that article was about. I've got now leader. He said it was the article was b._s. Just for for referencing did come out and clarify that but the point was he loved him. Some nick nick foles team love nick foles who took them onto magic carpet rides in two straight posted not just one it wasn't fluke number one it was to quote unquote flukes because he beat atlanta he genie's viking and he somehow overcome hung forty on them and then what are you gun. Tom brady. Yes what glasser he goes to chicago wins and he was on his way to winning at new orleans until alshon jeffery carson winston favor aver targeting dropped a passive heating right in the hand might be having a very different conversation right now but nick foles is a jacksonville jaguars. Let me tell you about the conversation aero. Thomas play for the baltimore ravens in the baltimore. Ravens are scrimmaging the philadelphia eagles and this was the earl. Thomas is believed the best rates they tim football yeah he. This is what he he said about one walker to carson winston. I would tell you in this league. They're the small pool of guys that you would classify at an elite level and i think he's definitely ended up time. So happy said expectations go away. Go to liberty belles hi. Hi good love it. Bring on when you try to see it when you trade within who traded to get this young man the expectations were always going to be there sure that's what may john elway so unbelievable considering what the broncos game up to get him. It was always going to be pressure. Always met those expectation. I expect nothing less than this young man to meet and exceed the expectations this year. You're going to be very pointed that you've kept calling him limpid to him and w._i._n._c._e.'s w._i._n._c._e.'s. You're going to be disappointed that w if wall to wall like it. Your guy had better live up because i will predict kicked right here right now i have i have covered many games that the eagles played in the city of brotherly love or shove sometimes. It's a city of brotherly shove. When it gets to the eagles games they are quick boo. I think they are the quickest tabu in all pro football all a pro sports so the first home interception that he throws and there will be one of those you just know. Some people are going to sit back in the stands and say with nick foles have thrown that interception we had nick foles. He was the super bowl all in the p and now we're stocked with limpet to them yeah well. That's that's where you're heading with. I'll tell you what the article said that a walk to them was selfish. Stephen jones they accelerated. He won't give me fever fever. Say that dak prescott just i might be the best leader in the n._f._c. because we know that gun foxborough is the best leader in this regard you read that you read them anymore but actress what about russell louis russell wilson is he is a force in my locker room. Nobody is ever question his leadership. The way carson winston has been. Have you ever curated russell wilson. I know well yeah. No wait a second you. What am i saying yes they have. They think he uses the pet of barrel. Leadership leadership was not the locker room split over. Are we with or against russell wilson <unk> interest even with all that still what's that even with all that when the locker room was split in it seems the defense against russell wilson kip his head and still deliver high class high-quality and yet boy he wrote the co tales of the legion of good there you go see the right you know as dak prescott ever the legion of boom he one day he got leak or one of my last year so that difficult terrible last year and then boy. It wasn't the playoff game was it not here got run off. The field gave up two hundred and thirty yards rush. You know that legion of boom. Let's legion of doom. I'm jenny taft staffed. Thank you for listening to the undisputed podcast but before the show moves along here's a quick word from our friends over at the fantasy footballers podcast the the n._f._l. Season is back and that means one thing. It's fantasy football time. The fantasy footballers podcast is the most downloaded fantasy football podcast for a reason it has the most accurate rankings as measured by fantasy prose. So you have a leg up on your competition want to dominate the waiver wire in your league the first define those hidden sleepers or grab those breakout stars before everyone else then you should listen to the fantasy football podcast to get the most up-to-date until to win your match chop each week subscribe right now to the fantasy footballers podcast apple podcasts spotify or wherever you listen to your podcast you can also visit visit them on the web at the fantasy footballers dot com subscribe now dominate your fantasy football cuyler. Murray doesn't thank thank his performance against the raiders. Last week is anything to be concerned about the rookie q._b. The lackluster performance to being the pre we season and after the game hard knocks cameras caught cuyler asking antonio brown why the raiders had to blitz them so much earlier this week cliff kingsbury said that he's intentionally finally keeping his play calling close to the vest in the preseason and yesterday murray explained just how limited the cardinals offense is right now. Take a listen. It gets frustrating when you know there might not be anything opening. We we go out. There and we look like how we looked last week and then you know people were talking about she but also got understand like i said i mean it's preseason and and we are running. We're running like literally six or seven place so <hes> you know. There's nothing to be negative just because we know what what what's really going on nah shannon how concerned the cardinals be about their offense. This should be very concerned. I don't care if you run six plays you six underplays if you can't block you're not going anywhere you see skips away. Cliff king's birthday. We're not we're not running a whole lot of play the he said you know we limited basis is blocking on a limited basis. Is that what you're doing guys. We're not gonna show you anything so obvious linemen. Don't you show him that. You can block. Is that what you're telling me scales. I don't think so and i tried to tell you skip betas. I tried to warn you. Try to say before yourself because that's what teammates that's good free of. Do we save each of friends. Yes yeah that's a skill. What you don't understand is that he's leaving the situation where he had the best offensive line input ball and he's embarking upon the situation where he's going to the worst up into line and football aw now that office line is so bad. I don't know if josh rosen can play or not but the line was so bad that they went back into draft after taking a quarterback with a top ten pick. They got got another woman. The first overall pick but this officer line doesn't play any better than what is played over the last couple of years. They'll be back in the draft again. Look at quarterback because they're gonna get this with her. Now what you see he's guilty because he is smallish and he is willing to give himself up without a whole lot of fight. You see him. Go down quite easily. <hes> mhm in the blueprint is out there. They're going to hit him upskilling. Lets you know that i know that because you will enter try even young quarterback. You want to speed the process up apps. We you don't want to sit back there. Patting the football we will speed you up in even when we don't. We're gonna make you think wrist beating you up because we want you to see ghosts the problem that they have. I don't know automatically. I don't know if this scheme that cliff kingsbury brought to the n._f._l. I don't know if it'll work or not. I don't care if you run four wives five wise. I don't care if you wonder if you can't block you can't win in that is their problem. I don't know how good customer is going to be because i know this. He's not complete pass azzoni back and he won't last very long if that offers why doesn't play any better than what it played last monday night against the raiders you know that at all i know is i stand by what i said about collar murray from the start which was early last year at the university of oklahoma. He is an extraordinary ordinary talent and clutch performer. I have rarely seen such poise in a quarterback on the college football level because he stepped onto onto the field right into the shoes of the reigning heisman winner who'd just been the number one overall pick new draft baker mayfield and he took it up. A level ginny witnessed it yeah. He was not afraid when he says i feel no pressure. He's been in the spotlight his whole career. He's been as cliff always cliff. Kingsbury says he's been small his whole career. This is not new for him in little league but he has been extraordinary in baseball and football to the point that he was obviously a high draft pick by billy beane and the oakland a.'s and yet he chose football and he made the right decision asia and it will turn out to be the right decision and i'm going to discount what i saw a week ago tonight at arizona because i saw hard knocks fox this past tuesday night and i got to hear john gruden's raw speech before game two of the preseason in which he's trying to light a bonfire under his football team by showing tyler's highlights from oh you less to did you see bravery train. He is raving about. He is never never seen a dual threat. Never ever seen says jon gruden never seen a dual threat like this kid and then he shows the flick of the wrist pass that he threw against saint nick's team remember this the national semifinal jon gruden says i'm paraphrasing. He says have you ever seen a quarterback wrist. Flick a ball sixty yards right right on the dot in the back of the end zone for a touchdown. He said you better be ready. 'cause he can't hurt you and we got john here. We gotta get after his ass. I am i right paul guenther to do something that was heated work borderline unsporting football. It's breaking the gentlemen's gentlemen's agreement of game to this game. Two gentlemen play tennis and play golf. We don't really know jim stuff going on in football skill but you know that jimmy connors the john mcenroe hell gentle but the point is paul guenther comes out and just blitzes the hell out of this kid like from i i snap on the house to the point that tyler did walk over to antonio after the game and said hey why you bring the house on the house you remember the old commercial with the gravy train the dog food and they ring the bell coming getting that jon gruden was doing reagan. Are we gonna bail. That's really impressive. I'm impressed okay. How about this la. You could say you know what in the preseason. We don't want to show you anything. We're gonna be really bonilla ellen. We're going to be built vanilla formations and we're going to be bonilla in. I route and yet when you have been vanilla you block until what did i tell you the other day. This was vanilla versus chocolate chocolate thunder. Bring out and go and i will agree with you on one thing and one thing only. This is a bad foot yacht yeah. I saw on full display because oakland's they're pretty good. Arizona is really terrible and it's getting worse because i i had such high hopes for kevin wide from west virginia in college football i would watch him just bully other teams yeah he would just go up and just snatch should young people and he gets drafted high by chicago like think cups. I thought that was actually too low for him but he got hurt and then he got hurt. The next year got her any winds up in arizona impose his hamstring and finally even cliff kingsbury who's close to dana holger sohn coach west virginia and i'm sure they had high hopes like god. We got renton here. We have died in the rough and finally they cut bait and signed a guy. I'm not that high on in trabzon. I've never been a big fan of his. He played at texas tech tech. Pre oklahoma's being didn't play four cliff but the point is so now it's michael crabtree in he buy goods canadian oil. No oh oh that'll be good because you know who to lead play for the rams. Gables nasdaq changed and alexis. I love and admire larry very fits but he's getting up there. What do we have to use sixteen yard and then i like christian kirk but is it enough and i liked trent sherfield from vanderbilt university but is it enough. I loved hakeem butler that they draft in the fourth round. They stolen from iowa state. I don't know if you got to seem six six to twenty five and he just just broke his hand in gone for the season so all of a sudden poor little keiler is way up against it. That offense was statistically the worst just in the last forty years. Yes that much better now skill his here. Okay you draft column with the number one overall. Pick the problem album that you have last year. You say it was quarterback but they couldn't protect him. So what do they do. They get more wide receivers now playing seven on seven and you got nobody that's gonna rush calamar and he's just gonna throw ball around. That's perfect but you draft why quarterback wide receiver wide receiver you don't get off his stick around six in in row seven expect to be good okay so i will give you this much. I trust keiler a lot more than i trust cliffs kingsbury okay ah because kyle play i don't know of cliff who got fired at texts right after going thirty five and forty. I'm not sure his stuff will work. At this level. I i think it will because it really worked on the offensive side at texas and and you know it was hype line of quarterbacks pro football talking about how jon gruden was whipping his guys up in a frenzy now to get rid of play this game but don't you think for one second that jon gruden what looking across that field and say this this a young gatt thing he can come in here with that job system and show me. He was thinking that he would because look at how about yeah yeah yeah and he includes remember for a while. It looked like john was thinking about drafting kyle. I 's okay and after thanksgiving cliff kingsbury is going to face as a lot of that yes defensive. Guys are going to get after calum murray but head coach is looking like hold on this guy came from. He couldn't even at college and he gives one of the most prestigious jobs in the n._f._l. Based off what like you're not the biggest gruden fan but he did win the super bowl yeah he like hold on this guy had pat mahomes and he won homeboy baker may at davis webb so don't think is eagles all around yes deepens offensive coordinators do not won't calum murray to show them up <hes> but head coaches does not won't clip kingsbury to outcoached them either okay. I will bet you that even their schedule is brutally difficult that slowly but surely cuyler will figure out how to make some plays in this league and by mid season about when you sit in over there on monday saying you know what if i look good yes they will not win fi. That's really bold of you. They had the first pick in the draft last year. He also hello generational. Talent generates talent turnaround your lighting. They got to win five not ask me that would be the peak five. Oh this is so you wanna you wanna flu shot. I ain't got no shot. That's the only shot. They got flu shots really they got no. Oh shot by this guy. I took one flu shot in my life and immediately got sick last while either skew you solve the office if you saw the man running for his life. So how did he give it. Okay okay between what you saw last monday it. What you're gonna say couldn't remember last thursday. Night was not a fair fight because i will bet you that in camp practice. They haven't practiced a whole lot versus hot receiver blitz where you've practiced to what we're doing. He'd been trying to figure out how to play football. Don't use one of the baby. That's skip you work on that day. They want they do we have you will. You don't think they're working on it right now to make overdosing. We already know about skip. Here's the thing was. I break into your house. Once already know you're gonna fix the front door. I'm gonna do the bathroom window. Really we got yes too late. You what you start working on. That already got another plan. How getting the lead the lead abatement a lot all right down not very good guardless slow to to just watch just watch and wait just remember. I said this extraordinary perform well. I'll tell you what he gets them tyran smith and some zack doc martins in some <hes> travis frederick that black travis frederick young block for him and that offense by going to get hurt <hes> worry about the guy chains. I just find any shots the other night no he got. That's another very easy going down. Smart posed a robert griffin. The thirty went down dumb every time up. He knows how to avoid the career threatening shots. We we saw last you ever take a shot to get one. You gotta get worse if he ran for a thousand yards last year and i didn't take put himself in a precarious situa- camera emerald y'all getting the n._f._l. Player <hes> we'll see and n._f._l. You saw what they do with it flat now. They can get rid of that but i gave it up when he'll look better in this game then he didn't alaska alvin. I bet i bet you film. Come giddy well. They'll be ready on skill. You know how he was. The linebackers coach of the system knows them. Come get bolton. Oh yeah offense better than it does. Go to all the coaches wanting to show cliff. It isn't as easy commodity with all that jail he had body spray. All you commercial air tale of two other cold. You look at groom stomach pulling off with he also lemon trail bitty british journal new he worried about if mad look rating did david madden rating. I think he might regret is telling everyone about that. One we talked about a lot of quarterbacks today. Maker is next baker. Mayfield's tackle jones say about baker. We'll tell you yoga before. The show moves along. Here's a quick message from fox sports as we gear up for for football season. It's time to create the perfect game. Watch environment and that starts with your bed. You need enough room in support to accommodate snacks excited outbursts and the close calls. That's right. You need a king bed and adjustable base in right now. During mattress firm's labor day sale you can get a king bed for a queen price and a free adjustable adjustable base when you spend just four hundred ninety nine dollars enjoy the game from the best bend the house thanks to mattress firm baker mayfield taken a lot of heat the last few days the browns quarterback was quoted in a article saying that he couldn't believe the giants took took daniel jones sixth overall in the draft and then it blew his mind since then baker has said that those quotes were taken out of context and he has reached out up to the giants rookie to explain take a listen just things taken out of context. That's the problem with today's day and age you know you you don't read the whole thing you don't put two and two together he just kind of read scripts and then <hes> people you know they combine sentences from different conversations and so it seemed very disrespectful and i can understand that i reached out to daniel because all that bluewater you know way out of hand and i wanted him to know how i felt and i've heard nothing mcgrath things from saquon and sterling shepherd <hes> guys that you know have a lot of respect for him and i i respect their opinions and so i just wanted to clear there with him all right shannon odd you like the baker reached out to jane jones. No i wanted to own it and this is what i'm berio ariel skip anytime. I hear a guy said you know stars where you know either. He's lying or he's about to live and i heard a lot of you knows in that skip. How do i take you if i'm doing a story royal skip bayless why somebody whose name coming up in the article it will if they're doing a story on. Let's say somebody come in. I what is the g. q. Skill remember jalen ramp had to bear same thing last year by quarterback n. g. q. Here's baker mayfield edgy. Q. and we had to see what a month ago odell beckham and so. I've been danny green i will. We'll be the. I'll make sure i'm not drinking anything by article v q so. I don't want anybody to take anything out of college so they can. They get people the best. Maybe let's give it to somebody article on me. Okay we talk. It and i look up and see somebody on the t._v. That do what we do. They do terrible skit what they will happen if they're going to be an article exactly well. You hope not if you say how do you take out of context that was around the draft articles. The interview is about you is somehow you bring him up eating and everybody i love. That baker speaks as eh. He tells you what's on your mind all he. He's breaking them. Oh you like any backtracks cutty candlelight michael jackson the motown awards eighty-three moonwalking skip you maybe if it was april fools but the draft with around april twenty four so no that was no joke. You said what you said just own it. I said i cannot believe they. They took that guy out of duke university with his win loss record and the way he played but what he tried to do skip also said i was surprised the number one overall to two things can be true. You can be surprised you went number. One overall and you can also say he sucks and that's exactly that's the crooks discount bela's moonwalking. If you're going to be a man about it be about it you talk it back it up and said yeah i said it now what but now he caught a lot of flack and it gets taken outta no it doesn't that's what it gift taken out of context when you say something and you want to retract or move away from it and it was taken out of context that interview earth got everything you said in the proper context you were shop that the new york football all giants to daniel jones six overall considering how poorly he played in his win loss record in now you trying to backtrack so no hello <hes> unfortunately i must agree. I still love baker mayfield as a quarterback in a leader of the cleveland browns. I do not love anything about this. He was dead wrong simple and he will not give it up and let it go and admit it and own it in stand by it right. I'm watching e._s._p._n. Yesterday and i caught my friend. Jake trotter who now is covering the browns three s._p._n. Who concluded after listening to baker yesterday that he did vehic knowledge that he did say. I can't believe the giants took. Daniel jones yes so he he's acknowledging yeah. I did say that right period end of story. That's absolutely that's. It takes over now he he he does have some point that you're associating my remarks in general in that interview about why n._f._l. Teams so often missing quarterbacks that was more of a generalization because he was talking about himself. How how shocked he was. He went number one when he was not projected to go number one and he thought he deserved go number. One in his point was they're missing the point in the boat about me. Because all i did was win. Lead that team at oklahoma and if you look at the quarterbacks who make it they lead their college team right okay that is in a different context but it still doesn't change the facts up at the time and said. I can't believe they took dale jones mind boggling. Thank you quote unquote. Yes i don't know at what point in the interview. He said he intended it. As an aside he intended it as just sort of a fan reaction to something he's seeing on sports writer up on a t._v. Monitor while they're sitting in a restaurant that has a steak named after baker mayfield right and he blurts it out thinking is just guy. Talk is like oh. We're like the interview stop for a second and it didn't so unfortunately it hit the light of print sprint and more unfortunately he won't stand behind it because i want to give you the quick history of baker mayfield. He's had beefs right and left drive back and forth. He blasted his former coach. Hue jackson called him fake when he dared to get fired by the browns and then go sign up with the rival bengals remember for that and he pointed adding right on the sideline. After he threw a touchdown pass then he blasted his former coach cliff kingsbury which talked about cliff when he was at texas tech back by saying that he was disloyal to me after i got hurt and he opted to go with davis webb over me which triggered bakers exit stage left to oak lawmen allman the transfer then he blasted recently texas quarterback sam alex. I don't know where this guy. They were rival arrival heights austin but but he said no. I don't like him and i hope he knows i don't like him because he doesn't like me so he just he's just like boom boom boom even though he doesn't even know etlinger etlinger doesn't like him. I don't know i think it was the rivalry of high school was from last year. It was just a you knew that there was a clear the rivalry look everybody have a rival. I don't dislike. The guy deflated school. Now i dislike the guy that was playing against okay they gotta do i might dislike. I would agree with you. This is a stretch but it's almost like jordan-esque where michael we will create for no reason what are you doing right okay and then finally he he took a shot at duke johnson who was his teammate at running back as you know for daring to demand a trade and becoming a distraction and not being fully committed to the browns took shot at it saying it's self destruction on his part right right right okay and then duke obviously finally got traded and then let's just quickly go over the incidents that he's never run from it. All paul fayetteville arkansas. He has a little too much drink and then he runs from the cops and he finally gets arrested and charged with public intoxication disorderly conduct in fleeing and he stood right behind it and then we know that he grabbed his crotch to send them across the field of the jayhawks kansas jayhawks for not shaking his hand the pre game and then we all all we know that he fired that football at t._c._u. Kid right in the head just for daring to run across the back line of is in zone during pregame warmups and he owns it right like that's me. That's what makes me tick all this is who he is until this one exactly and this one got into print when he had no beef and no reason to take a shot at at daniel jones so he's embarrassed about it. He might have gotten called on john dorsey as carpet. Maybe even jimmy carpet. What are you doing right and he couldn't defended right because all he could do is lie his way out of it by saying it's a context right. You know you just wanted to know. I think the world of no you don't you said you kill believe they took you believe a giant drafted him with the six picket drought but you want him to know you the world of him okay. So where did you think the world of him before <music> after you made the comment all right and now you want to announce to the media that you have tried to clear the air with him by texting him. I would prefer a phone. Call writes drives me. But how would you if you're in daniel jones shoes. How would you receive that taxed or if it had been a phone. Call reject reject because you you know in your heart of hearts. He just spoke his heart right. Yep you just said unprompted. Okay bye-bye had done something to him okay. I'll get you wanna say something. I'll be like that but when you speak in here i am. I'm getting drafted. Baker mayfield quarterback. You don't know me. I don't know you and then you're going to take you going to say that and then you're gonna get my number from someone and then you're gonna try to talk about broad. That's not what i mean. It was taken out of context i was talking about. I said i was surprised to okay you. Are you surprised you win the first well what i gotta do what you're saying jones. I still wanna know nothing exactly now and then like i said he got the blowback in when he thought beck and thought about it. He's like you know what i really shouldn't have said that because that's not my place and it makes me look like make them look real. Petty like okay because people didn't think you deserve to be the first round. Pick why you take it upon yourself in project that you don't think he should be the the six beginning trial and then move walk back low baker baker speaking mind. He shot him and he quickly say if you don't like it that's the problem. If you don't like what i say i thought you probably in the past. Yes ask but now look at it the crisis manager due to clean up too late. Nope you came down brian loveliness zarzuela. I thought you loved baker. Yeah we're stepping off. Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Two things can be true. Well somebody madam. I don't like that he backtracked but but i still beat the steelers win that division somebody might be moonwalking like michael jackson and nine hundred eighty three across from you got his name but the steelers look good tonight in washington this change to saint james wash. I told him thinking taken lebron's off. Okay well being. I can't believe it being a steel play. I'm gonna be the comeback according according to skip for big ben the year. He's got allow baker baker baby. Let's say your shot get get them about. I'll be like like jay cutler in philip rivers ace. Give everybody to wri. He liked robberies. Oh you texas may baldwin. Pittsburgh already is interested in the n._f._l. Are you going to start being fighting okay. We'll have to wait and see. Is it possible. The dak prescott rookie success was a hey look. I'm going to use joins us next. Dak prescott found himself himself on a top ten list bone. It's probably not the one he wanted to be on e._s._p._n. And football insiders released their top ten fluke seasons quarterbacks quarterbacks going back to nineteen eighty six and x rookie season in twenty-six came in at number ten the list points out that the only reason dax x. numbers have stayed steady is because his pass attempts have gone up each season and also points out the prescott q._b._r. Dropped every year since twenty sixteen so so we're now joined by f s one and fell analysts james harrison good to have you but first shannon. I'm gonna start with you. Do you agree that rookie. Season was a fluke the u. saying luke with a k. flute because i don't think about the play it over to afghan as jeanie. It was not jimmy you gotta. Let me see in case. You're wondering i thank you oh skill baylor's. They say your guy. The guy that you say is brady. Ask had one of the fluky receive in n._f._l. History so i'm not sure not just have a moment now you just told me admitted to go and i wrote it down. You say it looks like to me the number of games that he's mrs going up. It also looks like did you know this q._b._r. Down side talk. No i wanna get back later data interception rookie twenty three and four average twelve last season going up going down your for a temp. Go all in down sack twenty five thirty to fifty six. You know pro football focus fifteen of those fifty six six was directly attributed to dak prescott and my and there's not to target yeah. Why are you keeping a rutted. Go sit in the hall and you keep it a rub. You teach yes here. Only we're going to get worse because they know his limitations. This is a running football team. It always has and always will be as long as they can take. Take zeke away. Keep that play actor comey players guys. Gotta come down because you got to try to stop <hes> but numbers don't lie one of them. Leukemia seat a honey james four hundred eight hundred ninety nine year. This was one of the ten fluky you see the n._f._l. History and i don't really know what else to tell you. I'm sorry that it happened. Mhm that you so devout you in so it. It hurts almost an oatmeal luke so i want to hear if james harrison buys into the foolishness i just i i do not buy into stuff that i just heard but i don't consider it a fluke because i don't think he had a great season. Oh starting all the same thing. The man nineteen nineteen completions the game from sixteen seventeen twenty two who in eighteen it's not really that much of a drop his his his attempts went up his sax went up his his interceptions went up so i mean the only big differences you went thirteen and three with the cowboys and they did nothing so you just went crazy about this what they go last year helped me out and we didn't think tennessee's who won the division last they had they had they had they had zeke back when they didn't make leap was suspended for six games so he missed six games. It only played in ten so that is not really doing it. I feel like like i said before you can get a quarterback out of the draft. That could come here and give me one thousand nine hundred completely sold. Would you hand the ball. Would you be so bold. Old is to go so far as to say dak. Prescott is a bust. I wouldn't say he's a bus because they didn't draft him. As a first round of che's garbage is give me something gimme uh-huh put a label on him litter. He's going that i didn't. He's averaged. She's average. What everybody says. Harrison is that what do you say they literally. Every shannon sharpe hall of famer says litter dak prescott is litter. I want that on tape because it's pretty hard. He ain't trash edge but do keep competitive with the top yeah when you put him up there like tom and all that is like yeah. Now i gotta say or he has to say he's trash because i cannot just tell you how much i love this from my quarterback. I loved you said and i love even more the litter that you just deposited right here in the middle of this table because it just spilled right out of your mouth my quarterback more and more by the day becomes the most underrated under appreciated and under hyped quarterback back in the national football league. This is utter blasphemy. What i just heard here it's sacrilegious and he will make you eat all the crow that you desire. It'll be a buffet they of crow every monday on undisputed. Everybody is welcome. It's all you can eat crow for these two right ear. Here's what happened last year. Tell me anyhow fluky last year for the first eight games last year. Dak prescott had literally nobody to throw to there was no number one wideout and guess who got the most targets targets over the first eight games of the year the running back did the most balls were thrown to number twenty one who happens to be zeke elliott. There's nobody else to the throat and by the way zeke is still running the football through the first eight games. Guess what the record was three and five and guess what jerry jones did thank you what are you went out and got amari cooper and he spent a lot of money and a lot of stuff for him because he he he's been a first round draft. Pick and it was worth every last cent of it because when amari came in life changed because he finally had a legit number one who could threaten the defense and occasionally there is a double team and what happened from that point on look at dak prescott to fluke ish numbers last year for the back half of the sixteenth note there saying sixty they're saying last year. Urge to disqualify sixteen was a great year. It was the best year any rookie quarterback ever play you can just i dare there. You go look at r._g. Threes rookie year which i loved in washington it was not better than dax rookie. You're going to disqualified that one because of seventeen or so listen what happened for the last eight games last year. Dak prescott was third in the national football league incompletions. He was fourth in yards thrown yards. He threw four jeff. He was fifth in air distance of completions. How far the past goes before it's caught fifth in the national football league and he was tied for fourth in deep deep pass touchdowns because he wasn't dinking and dak and once he got amari cooper and he kept it off by outplaying russell wilson in q._b._r. Whatever statue that you want in a playoff game that he won and then he went to l. a. and he dramatically outplayed via q._b._r. Jared goff in fact dak prescott my quarterback in the bad year you had last year wound up in the playoffs having the number one overall q._b._r. Of any quarterback including tom brady or patrick mahomes number one q._b. We are so i look at. I'm gonna have to bring it up again. No quarterback over the last three years has more fourth quarter game winning drives than my quarterback. No quarterback in the history of this league in his first three years in the league has oklahoma face obama through. I record is that they need to be. I don't care there are four quarters in a football game slowest. Listen okay and he's all he's done is win. The division two out of three years and the year that was so bad in seventeen he lost his left tackle hackel and they had no backup and that was jerry jones fall and then he lost his running back and then he lost the guts of the defense who was sean lee the captain the defense james you notice every time eh things if somebody else's sean lee is tara's meal is the what is the second best record in the league over the last three years belongs to dak prescott who who is become one of the great leader's team later should i but his leadership has asked carson wentz. If you want let me ask you. This skill is that you keep saying that they're saying okay sixteen. That's an outlier when you look at what has transpired since then his his sack total is going up what transpired last year over the last eight games with the mario cooper was extraordinarily. It was better than sixteen and you know what skill even though after he got amari cooper over zeke elliott average more catches per game than amari so he was yesterday and i promise you missed the last game to see okay and amar have one more question goes thirteen touchdowns two three interceptions over the last eight games and then throwing in the playoff game. He is turned into one of the most underestimated big gain big play playmakers in the league. What happened on third and eight late in seattle game. Do you remember this play. Maybe we should see it again. We're not to third and twelve thousand nine overnight what happened that happened out of the west the hey come on bobby. See you guys under us. Make everybody get lucky. Yeah everybody gets lucky 'cause he waits two hundred and forty five pounds and he can move the metrics skip you either do it with your legs physicality do it with his arm. Golf forty okay so quarterback. Can't throw is the only quarterback in the history of the league who has this high of completion percentage over his first three years but he can't throw the index really the last two games. I saw bombs away as well. Yeah zeke elliot had seven catches man. I've seen him play aaron rodgers three times dax q._b._r. Is an average eighty two aaron sixty two. He outplayed him. He didn't win the game because they weren't good enough to win. Two games okay mason and crossbars. That's what you just said. He can do his legs. You're saying oh hyun diminished every year. Look what he did against dot one game over over the tour what he did in that terrible year last year what did they beat carson wentz twice the reigning super bowl champion just how he did it in the two fourth quarters and the overtime grand total through four three hundred thirty one yards four touchdowns and no interceptions on completing twenty four of twenty eight and he can the six to three year running football team their own home on just like twenty eight men in the hall of fame audio is he in the whole thing first ballot all s._m._u. Disrespect me to ask ms moore. Tony romo got. I heard tony romo hadn't got hurt and roma was the quarterback. Do you think they would have been a lot better ronald disaster. It'd be journal tony romo deals. I turned on him about ten years years ago. I told you he was an accident waiting to happen. I call you yes. I was the first one to say skew telling me they would've did nowhere. Where what what am. I told you the classic roll on roll up disease like come on. You got a better arm. He things better when he had his humil- demarco murray. You remember a zero four faculty onus off tony because he was handing it off to the owners of recovery handing week sixteen hundred all was an interception waiting to happen at the most critical moment. What did i do remember the game when he <music> twelve thirteen or twelve twenty twelve. It's the classic game at at gerry one and ends up fifty fifty one to forty eight and tony throws for five. Oh six. Tom brady threw for five five five or six and right when you least expect it. He throws a danny trevathan who happened to be an orange and blue that day at gerry world-scale all right. I'll skip over walk off field. All they're saying is that when they look at the numbers they look at that season. He's more apt to be like seventeen eighteen moving forward <hes> than anything like sixteen. That's all they're saying ask you did you. You didn't down the stretch. He took off. He arrived went into another echelon. Lash no he did. Yes yes. He did your man z. He's my man but we're we're wasn't in the playoff game at that one game but did he not show up against seattle. How was it fourteen fourteen hundred thirty four yards last year. Hey i told him from the start. Zeke is the best running back and football and he has disagreed at every turn fake one. Oh he liked levian for a while right with the ball. I like zeke. I give you that they are a balanced football team. They run it and they just like troy aikman's dominating cowboy on the ballot football team but here's the scale on pay no. Did you see how they took off. He realized they went seven in one down the stretch and it went from three and five to seven in one. Why was that dak dak to amari. That's what carried this team all the way home. That's how they beat seattle and again we seattle to ideas. Give what you do realize that the elliott led the league in rushing the last game that it was there right. He's tremendous. He's the best running back in football. It's a dual threat but you have to have the guy who can throw it. He can really throw so when you're in trouble against. It's the defending super bowl champions who pulls it out in the fourth quarter the f._d._a. Wolf on a pick. The wolf is now. You don't want to get decree oregon. Nobody deer in the headlights wince also that as much as i don't want this one does patrick mahomes home have the right mindset to lead the chiefs to join us in a bit another quarter more this time patrick mahomes took the n._f._l. By storm last season on his way to winning his first m._v._p. Homes lit up scoreboards on his way to over five five thousand yards passing and fifty touchdowns peyton manning in his historic 2013 m._v._p. Season was the only other q._b. To hit those marks when asked about fighting writing off a sense of accomplishment mahomes had this to say until you win the super bowl. I don't think you can be complacent with anything. <hes> being being that close last year you you want to find a way to win it and until until you're able to do that and then we'll do it multiple times. I mean you never gonna be with complacent with where you're at shannon like them. Home said you can't be complacent until you win a super bowl i think he got his words mixed up skip. I think if you're a professional athlete there's two words you never want to hear from them. Another athlete's mouth and that's complacency in quit so if you win the super bowl now you can get complacent. I think one of the things that i admire most about tom. Brady is that even in his young career in which he won. He never said he scaled a summit skip and instead of basking in the glory of what he accomplished. He marched down the heel and found another summit to claim. That's what you have to ever ever. Professional athletes get remember when i made my first bro it was i wanted to show everybody wasn't blue so i needed to beat the time that iran last track. I need to lift more weights. When i made my first all protein i wanted to this. I'm for real guys and went to the super bowl. I like my drive was to get back again. Show what what you're seeing. My individual congressmen and the team will cover. That's not a fluke hopefully like i said i believe he got his words mixed up skill because it seems like he's like well. If i win the super bowl okay back and exhale and you can never exhale when you play professional sports because there's someone always tried to catch you and so i i will give i will give him the benefit of the doubt but i do not like to hear complacency. Come out of a guys mouth. I'm never unless you're going to say. I never be complacent because until i'm done i feel i can get better and there's always something else i can accomplish. I am not going to give him the benefit of the doubt we had him on the show before the draft. He's a smart young man. I think he knows exactly the meaning of complacent i. I don't think he got any words mixed up. I think he just spoke his heart and spoke his mind and i think he is in danger of getting a little too. Full of himself self little too quickly coming off his m._v._p. Season i think he's in danger of focusing on all the wrong things because it has been reported noted that he does practice left-handed passes in practice he practices no look certify and he'd practices all the globetrotters steph curry contemplate except steph steffes place when he's shooting forty foot jump shots there actually for him conservative shots because they're like free throws. They're not whipped cream shots. They're they're actually conventional. Shots just being shot farther and farther out great but we've we've not seen left handed pass from right-handers. We've not seen seen that many no looks we've seen occasional sidearm flings from brett farr that sort of thing but this is the danger when you are spoiled rotten by andy reid because was andy reid loves him some patrick mahomes because he traded up and he feels like look at me. I stole nobody saw this coming except me greg and yet yeah part of patrick success last year offensively. I have to give andy reid. He's not had a whole lot of focus on his defense. He did have the late great jim johnson and in philly but obviously the defense failed in your mom's can help he did not get it done and maybe now they'll respect nolan right in the upgrades with honey badger edger. Maybe they'll be melissa clark. Yeah frank clark will help so the point is that i think patrick is so full of himself right now not in a terrible way but just in a matter of fact way that he just saying hi. I'll get complacent when we want a super bowl in to your point the first thing i the first guy i thought of was tom brady right. Can you imagine he's been to nine super bowls. He's now favored to go to his ten super bowl and he seems more driven than ever yeah so complacent is not in his vocabulary the well it shouldn't be an anybody's vocabulary because because you should never be comfortable enough with your situation that you'd like. I can't get better or why can't improve the situation and the thing is if you look at like i said he when they ask ask him like tom. Which is your favorite super bowl. He said the next one complacency like i'm good. I've got enough fourteen pro bowls three m._v._p.'s nine super bowl appearances with six weeks four full m._v._p. I mean what does your want me to do. And what does he always. You want me to go to what i won't okay. That's what he wants exactly ribbon four. Where is the older. I get the harder after work in the off season right well. That's not what patrick is saying. He's saying well if i get my super bowls or not can gear down a little bit and i could rest on my laurels. I just like i said i don't like. I don't like hearing complacency. Being talked about a miko says look. I don't want these guys to get complacent. That's one thing or you say. I'm never going to be complacent because i feel yeah. I love what i copy. Slash william reach our ultimate destination super bowl but even even don't even say if even even when i win the super bowl to get to another and another and another is just like i said i will give him a bit of skill. Maybe you nervous a little bit. Maybe you might hear that back and go. That's not exactly what i wanted to say. He is smart. I don't think he ever gets nervous in front of media to see. I'm sorry here's the problem i watched him in his last preseason outing and it was it was horrible by his standards and you know and i know this league can do that. Oh yeah you know if you get a little bit complacent in the back of your mind. Even in your psyche complaining like i got this you don't know and again if he keeps playing like he did the other night. He's going to have problems problems because i can tell you there are three coaching staffs who spent the whole off season trying to figure out how to shut that guy down and oakland is way better on defense they they got some firepower now head perfect now gyles two rookies our jonathan they can bring the heat is they brought it on collar the other night so they're just better and they're going to be gunning for this kid and we know the chargers good in the other night denver. I thought it'd be better. You know what's better defensively slash me and you know both of healthy this year. Yeah he'll be there. He won't miss ten eleven games. I don't think so. I don't think so either looks like it's a little brothers. There's missing runs in the family but yes cuba i. I don't like the word complacency. He had an unbelievable season and you should be looking. There's a chance he might not had ever be v <hes> fifty thousand five thousand yard but just because you don't reach that number doesn't mean you don't have a great season but if you sit back and think well man once i read this hour ride you have problems i mean the first time i beat skipped down busting down like shh let me get back to work. We're home. Wok wash okay yeah. I never get complete change the you'll catch the sales long as t._v. Though that's what it comes down to do you become complacent lose that it happened that your hand opera all that breaking up the fact you got no shot so you just sort of yeah you just ease into it everyday like i know what's i will give you a chain diamond. We haven't heard about your restaurant awhile over right yeah. It'd be open to the. It sounds like somebody's going to kansas city to play philadelphia. Let's get right now. I'm not i'm not there yet. I'm not there my prognostications and you know autoshop or dominance a habit right well. Whatever the prognostication is before the season will change after we make aac those these two odell beckham junior antonio brown avalon common new teams new quarterbacks zero preseason snaps with those new quarterbacks ormoc spruce should be more worried names. Harrison is back with us and help us out. See our wideouts antonio brown and odell uh-huh beckham junior are both expected to miss the remainder of the preseason a._b. Is still recovering from those frostbitten feet. Oh that was tough to see but he will travel evil what the raiders winnipeg for the preseason game against the packers odell is recovering from a hip injury and missed team drills yesterday at practice both pro bowl receivers have have yet to play a snap for their new team since being traded this past off season james harrison back with us but shannon <hes> which team game. We'll be hurt more by this. We're talking about the raiders brown. I'm gonna say the raiders because at least baker had some practice time together on the field a. b. has yet to practice wants now. In the freeze in training camp with derek carr baker also has a rapport would enjoy cool a couple of the other guys that have been there. <hes> jarvis landry led the team so he's gonna get his fair share. He's very familiar with those guys yeah. There's no way okay and tony o'brien is going to be anything other than the lead receiver on this team. That's why they brought him brought him in. He's going to be the leading receiver. Yes they signed tie real waypoint the charges but going to be the leading receiver and he doesn't have any time on field time with derek carr so with that. I'm going to say i think <hes> uh the raiders will be more impacted by their to the receivers not being able to get any really quality time with the quarterbacks yeah. I'm gonna agree with you on there. I think he hasn't had time to build that repore. What his what his quarterback. That odell has <hes> but i'm i'm gonna twist this. You know who is really going to hurt. Is this trend of players. Not playing in preseason is is really going to hurt them at the end of the day because you got to collect the bargain agreement coming up. These guys want eighteen regular season games why i got two more games. I know my starters. Go may only be two preseason games but that's a chip that nocco us now in bargaining c._b._a. When it comes around you got four preseason games now. You have four games where you're not getting a total parking concessions merchandise. Just don't get they don't get to be on t._v. 'cause that money right. The ratings are going. You know what i'm saying and the big thing is the person is really hard to owners pockets in at the end of the day. It'll hurt the players because now it'll be a you. Gotta trend of not playing. You're starters. The ratings are down when you're not doing this. We're not having people in the stands. We're not getting the money that we need to get to give you the money that you want so we're going to need eighteen eighteen regular season games two preseason games. It's still only twenty games but that's what we're going to need so that we can get this done. I feel if you're still planning about eighteen gene. We're not like it always said. I wouldn't want eighteen and you'll give me everything right benefits right now. Everything is set towards parts. You being the game being safer like the game. We made the game. Safer concussions are down this down. Hey we can go up eighteen gains. We just made the game safer for and that's what everything really has led around too and that's where we are right now with this trend of guys not starting. Their starters in the preseason is going to lead eighty two. Oh this is what we want. This is what we need because this is what the train has become how you and i were playing. It was no it was third game. That's three quarters well. Let's let's get like i think richard sermon spoke. This is gonna take something extraordinary for the owners to offer us for us to support for the players to consider this you you wanna give us lifetime health medical benefits after three years. Okay we'll look into that. You want guaranteed contracts. We'll look into that. You wanna take roger goodell and if it's not have anything to do with gambling. We're going to be able to go to an independent arbitrator. We'll look into that but without those kinds of concessions and we're going to do away with the franchise tag. No franchise tag no tags. If you're talking about this okay now. Go look into it but just to say oh here's eighteen games. You got new renew illegal status so i'm with both of you about the new trend. The trend is everywhere. I look nobody's playing and nobody's eating right. I used to enjoy the preseason because at least i could get a glimpse right and again my pet peeve always not not so much getting hurt in a preseason game amo get hurt in preseason practice killed me is like not fair the football injury god's would would speak out you know that oh you're going to go down on some non contact drill but in this case we have two receivers who need to be playing as you said earlier in the show in in live of action crowd games where you're developing some under under fire report with your new quarterback and both are going to miss all four and i'm i'm just shocked by that because speaking of fragile they're they've decided odell is really fragile if he can't play one because at least he's been practicing right right in with antonio. I still don't get it. I still don't know why antonia wouldn't play tonight because it sounded like his feet were much back. That's what i was curious if so is he still you'll protesting. Is he still pouting. I don't get an plus. The thing is what we're starting to see. The owners are going to look at this. I have someone to talk talk to someone yesterday yesterday from the n._f._l. P._a. He's when you start doing these players. They get these guaranteed money and they behave like antonio does the owners they see this while we can't give you guaranteed money funny because now you're gonna behaving such a manner. We gotta keep that care. We gotta keep the thing dangling out there in front of you to get you to behave because that's always been that's always been the notion skill. Is that if i give you guaranteed money. You're not going to work at har will. Maybe we need to do it like basketball players to get this supermax. You might need to go to a pro bowl. Oh make an all star team winning m._v._p. Give them guys incentives so okay to be able to get this but the way it is now skip. I don't like it. I don't like the gab and i i get it. There's so much money and bob and you don't want to see these star players. Go down but now why are you even having a preseason. Nobody's playing now starting writing you so i'm with you on this. Jon gruden has built his whole offense around number eighty. Yes that's going to be his fire starter. That's going to be his catalyst. That's the other night eighty four league this league in energy he wants him on the practice field which where he's not been any wants in in the lineup yes and and again they are going to go to him like crazy because they spent on him like craig right. We've he's the z. Receiver in a west coast offense yep jerry rice with zero. Sterling sharpe was the receiver. If you play in that system disea- receivers go tunnel ball's gonna play. He's going to get a ton ton ton of balls and to not have like no look patent goal. It's nothing pat and that's nothing he needs to be like when derek carr backward mike would he he needs to know coming out of that break well. It's something else. Would you know like you said pango means nothing seven or seven really means. You need that eleven eleven with a defense. That's actually coming at. She's right you know what if i had to do a site adjust or have to do a blitzer just then you have to be able to do on the run and not being in practicing getting consistent. You know look of eleven eleven ball then it's going to something's going to give bill okay so i'm not convinced jon. Gruden is sold on derek carr and now i'm not convinced that a._b. He is yet sold on derek carr because he can't be he didn't have any rapport with them. There's not enough interaction and you have to. You know it'd be pretty well but you have to. You have to gain his trust sort of on and off the field. You have to have some relationship with him. That has not been able to evolve with derek carr yet. There was no place a._b. Where could he go. Could he go. Only if the only way to like new england new orleans the work could he go to get been robbed as burger. How dare it'll be being top-five quarterbacks about what you think about him personally <hes> behavior on it but he can play a beagle and find out that hardaway but he legal fight about to go from what he had in new york to cleveland. I mean right okay. It is an upgrading definitely upgrade upgrade in rapport us. He and baker hang out right and he has some respect. I don't know how much you can get a vo dell's respect off the field but i i believe he respects baker enough that if if it gets cold in november and december in cleveland and they're under fire that baker can look at him in the huddle and stay calm down. No just keep it quiet for a little bit. We're gonna well. I hope you will listen to anybody near that upset either for someone else's hard to hear people talking to listen baker will make himself heard you no either way guys. We've met a lot of n._f._l. Stories today so we gotta talk about lebron james. Thank you so much for joining us. Lebron past the point of being able to carry us. We'll discuss so famer. Scottie pippen weighed in on who we thinks is the king of l._a. Pippen said he take the clippers over the lakers. This season the additions of quite leonard and paul george put an army confident team over over the top according to pippin he also went on to say that lebron going into his seventeenth season will not be able to carry the load like he used to says the camp he did. Do you agree that the clippers are better than lakers and yeah he does. It will not only do i agree with that but i'm mainly agree with what scotty said about lebron though carry the load was the essence of those quotes and is shannon sharpe well knows i i've never been the biggest scottie pippen fan as a player because i continue to say he rode michael jordan's coat tails to top fifty status. Ah i will also say as an analyst scottie has really impressed me more and more with his insight in his candor and i was pleasantly shocked talked that he had the guts to say what. He said that he said you ought to be ashamed but again. I'm pleasantly shocked because who who would have the guts to say this about the king yeah anybody to is. What did you see tom rainey. Take off the outback last year who to who is complete lebron james twenty seven eight nights get bayless. I also harked back to what kyle kuzma said about three weeks ago and he was talking about how locked in lebron's lebron's locked beyond how he's just getting his body ready for the grave of oak he's laser focused but he also said you see so many people slandering his name saying this and that lebron james and i'm thinking wow that is interesting who who would have ever thought so. Many people are are slandering the name of the king. Tom brady doing you. Don't nobody says he can't carry the team. He can't carry carried the team. Though that's that's the number one rushing attack and put into play on leisure. God couldn't care to tell you but that's you cannot talk because if anybody auty knows about who can't carry teams it would be scottie. Pippen who closely observed the ultimate all time team carrier named michael jeffrey jordan w no no. It's this guy the true not the phony goes lebron james and what i loved about what scotty said obviously. He is favoring the clippers because defensively. He says they're just better and they are lebron doesn't play much okay. What about offensively and then we'll. That's thank you for. Bring that up but he he says the clippers just have too many guys they can throw it lebron but then he concludes lebron is not going to be a tough match up in his seventeenth eighteen season. I couldn't believe the money line right. There is not going to be a tough edit. Michael is that i detest from from last year. Oh twenty seven eight eight yeah well twenty eight and twenty seven or the key numbers because that's lebron's record games. He started good us. I do not agree with scottie. Pippen are there are they better defensively absolutely <hes>. They have a better g._m. Do they better have had a better head coach owner front office all day yes assistant coach and thailand at all not all that but the players and first of all there's a reason why we went and got anthony davis because we're not gonna ask lebron lebron james to carry the low solely on his own. You know the anthony davis in average only thirty three minutes a game average twenty six twelve and two and a half and thirty three it is that's the lowest number of medicine blades rookie year any still gave you that really. We're not the latest second wyan. His was it five years new orleans. They had a sub five hundred record record okay. Can he carry lebron. Can't you're saying a._d. Can a._b. Will be just like we'll be just by cooled jail rondo. I liked what i liked the look we waited. We tried to get kawai. That didn't happen but i do like the pieces that they surrounded lebron anthony davis with we're going to be just us by scott. See scott this antiquated theory year seventeen see jordan jordan jordan. Take care of them like my god. Oh my god takes care of himself really interesting. What if father time is tapping him on. The shoulder doesn't matter how hard you work just shrug them off yeah really yep. That's what you saw pool going. You saw triple you saw trouble dove resort fifty one point nine on the road against miami. You saw forty four aw you stop skipped. You saw what he did the portland denver. Could we please see some of the love you go see now glencoe. Could we mind so our fate though what happened last year. Can we always threw it in off the backboard. What are you doing lebron. Wait a second look. Couth shoves him out up to defend a shooting gallery. Lebron skill rolling ball boy kicked it out of bounce. What are you doing. You're the king wait. Wait a minute. This is mario blocking lebron's last second shock. You don't have enough lift in year sixteen to get it up over mario zone you now the portland trailblazers. What could you gotta get out there. Lebron coups saying get out there. Who's going to be the help defender this year whereas in help push lebron amadou on a team u._s._a. Say cools putting out working. Okay that's fine. I think he could be maybe the second best player on the lakers this you can you put together. Some good highlight served third. You go with the closer because they don't have a closer. He's got assume that role why do all mine brian straight years and all of a sudden he can't close lebron has been busy making a movie working yeah out to eliminate shot quick though the day number it's going on and on and on because they changed directors in midstream which means you got to start from scratch. Ah doesn't necessarily mean that he direct but we all want an imprint on the don't you worry about people. Don't you worry about well. All the brandon the lakers poison oak some harsh truths here at the same for you to lebron pass pass lebron. <hes> jordan has got to be yeah. We're talking about scotty pippin. Who's <hes> the the the clippers pre owned the lakers last year and this by adding adding qualify and adding reading this through those quotes and paul george one of the best defenders in the game that since their confidence up through the roof either uh-huh lebron of cover yeah. He always appalled yours that were always gets awad at work. You remember skip. You're living in the past. I ain't going nowhere is not going anywhere. Skill really yeah you got three more years. Love applebee's with i hope so and two more championship eh two more chips so you're saying he can carry a team to a championship he came but we that's why we got a d. May dig on care. Somebody's low to skip bailing. Yes aston everything think you're in trouble and i think scottie. Pippen is the harbinger of bad news the more carries you have been better your chances abso- we got to who lament you question. Who do you think's better. I two players talk to you about their team. Versus your visit lease blayo. I don't know that's a hard question. You get from what number is gonna wear six twenty thirty three oh. He's wearing twenty three okay all right that i it. Oh you like life. Eat salt house really throw basketballs. He threw it out on somebody. Hey it really yeah but we'll give you some highlights. We're blonde. The brian bodybags avenue always we have that we got lowlights man and you know what that's just the tip of last year's i the more you you you got to loop. You always try to you. Try to make lebron negative life. You like the art of the deal larry bird or you try to you. Try to put tattoo that don't belong yes. Did that happen happen that's c._g._i. Yes apple bad moment really all that within the same game. No i don't but it happened in the same year and there are eight more you know what tomorrow i'll tell you challenging and i pulled out this coming. We'll see opening night. I'm gonna be there you are you're going through the i want the lebron easy cover who is going to do something with a six foot ten and a half twenty a six twelve and two point five thirty three minute. You heard a mantras herro but look. I love tree betrayal the big big enough to do wrong enough a a got three once none of the five he didn't play in the middle. We'll do it then the four. He's a pretty four. Yes that we got your vail. They we might get dwight howard or more seeing yeah you wanna bill who knows maybe all i know i night a._d. Goes up to dunk it. Damn big zoo. The big hand of big zoo comes in and the ball build it do i do. I still have forgiven magic for giving him away from scala. That didn't go as planned but that's okay. You come flippers got you. There's go wetter. I bet we win opening night but we have talked about utah and i bet we went over tonight. For what are we going to have opening night. That's what i'd need to know. I told you would probably get off to a good start it other than the don't buy where it's got lebron the heavy board here. I'd they're gonna be well. You know motivated. He heard ya que motivated. He no motivated by anything that you say 'cause. You've been one of his critics. You can you staunches truth. Seller and scottie has join me. He has guys. You know what i'm excited about college. Football ball pressure is high and so as the criticism for jalen hurts. What is it warranted next heisman simply. We'll discuss kabamba alabama transfer. Jalen hurts was named the starter at his new school oklahoma the last two to hide winners kylo murray and baker mayfield have been sooner q._b.'s and creeks of questions hurts ability to play at the same level as his predecessors but lane kiffin came came to his former cuba's defense kim said quote not to sound disrespectful but i think those questions are ridiculous shannon. Do you agree that. It's ridiculous took question. Jalen hurts no because that's why he lost his job is inability to throw the ball consistently kenny throw the quarterback can throw the question is can they throw it accurately candy through it consistently really in no he cannot if you look at baker mayfield skipped a year two thousand seventeen he won the heisman seventy seven seventy percent completion percentage thirteen yards per attempt calamari two thousand eighteen sixty nine completion percentage thirteen yards per attempt jalen hurts career average sixty three percent eight yards per during lies the problem yet and i know skip. He came back and did a great job. He's say alabama season in the s._e._c. championship but they didn't prepare for him and he did most of his damage with his legs eggs. You know that i don't know stop playing but in in the national title game who came off the bench and game that you and i both know alabama would have had back to back championships if jalen hurts could have thrown a little bit. This is the reason why they lost the simpson. The second time around with shawn watson it was because jalen unhurt inability to consistently and accurately throw the football so this is not ridiculous. Maybe clemson was just really good on defense. So here's the headline i'm going to predict for late in the season. Headline jalen hurts shannon sharpe though you're going to hurt you hurt you some more and then he's going to hurt you the worst because he's going to win the heisman trophy is us going to have three three in a row. That's never been done before. I think he's got a great shot. No the day the running quarterback winning at skip. It's not gonna happen. He can throw the ball accurately enough consistently now now he look he might get up to seventy percent with those big twelve defensive terrible out there now. You got a little but the last risk of uh-huh t. o._t._t. Really boy and they say so he learned a lot from that land on alive or dead. He learned how quickly you can fail and he's got the demons in the back of his mind. Because once he failed in the game it started he was hurt. You'll start hard to come all skill and by the way you said. Jalen couldn't throw in the s._e._c. game. He went seven of nine for eighty two yards and a touchdown. He ran it five times twenty eight yards and a touchdown he had a q._b._r. Ninety eight in that fourth quarter and by the way to man he had a hard time in that championship game because cure was twenty one against clemson twenty on scared. Yes he had a he had a bad national championship. We had two picks nixon that game clemson made him look brent venables that was playing when you got three first round picks one with the third with third or fourth overall in cleland barrel. Would you got three d. Lineman that go in the first round that lets you know you can generate some pressure. You had to get drafted also said clemson loaded on defense. Yeah you've been reloaded tone deepens. I might skip. I'm not taking anything away. I'm talking about the first year that they lost clemson. Jalen hurts could throw the football. They dared him to throw it. They can successfully do that has jalen hurts ever been coached by lincoln riley as he is lincoln riley proven to be a a wizard leaguer riley lincoln continental trophy. That's for sure g._t. That high bentley heisman. We'll be going down sow <hes> so would you believe the jalen hurts has risen up to number three not with the other people who know what well it's two. Oh that's in part because regard jerry judy his receiver mel keiper today. I think it was yesterday released his big board and he's going number one at this point number one. We loaded skin henry rugs the third we allow what is he's like top fifteen so you got that going loaded speaking a loaded yeah. My sooners are really lego. Do nothing the defense can't. I can't wait to keep a stake down there. They keep saying here's my first prediction caller. Murray ran for one thousand and one yards last year. I believe that jalen hurts will run for more yards than cuyler did lash and he'll throw for fifteen hundred two thousand few i thought link kiffin had a very interesting analogy because he said kyle was like a slot receiver playing quarterback last year because he was so quick but he said people underestimate jalen hurts is built like doc a running back. He's six two to twenty. He moves like a running. I know a guy that was built like that but he will left-handed later s._e._c. also so how did that work out for him throwing the football finley and accurately now. I know what you can do on occasions. There are certain occasions like thanksgiving. He's giving a special occasion. Prisoners is a special occasion for sunday happens all the time a little stat for you here on a thursday. This is from pro football focus since twenty sixteen. No active quarterback at the level has forced more missed tackles roles on the ground than jalen hurts. He can't make you miss. You do realize you're throwing the ball. He is effortlessly elusive. You combine combine that with the lincoln riley who will put him in great positions and speaking of loaded at the receiver position. Kenny knows all about cd lamb. I think he will rise to a top opt-in. Pick in the next ten fast. We got we live when they are just loaded calcaterra the tight enough and really get opening catch it and then i don't have time to to go through the depth they have wide receiver because they get like five other guys who were just little smarter just bing bing bing bing being jeered. Wait another guy white dove. What's he gonna wanna do about that defense. They gave up several hundred yards a game. If it deployed what happens is that the opponent scores so quickly against the defense that the offense keeps getting the ball back in the score goes to as we saw that friday united west virginia. I can't remember what the score is like fifty five fifty something like like that but guess what how it's going to happen and that means the quarterback is putting up huge huge numbers. You get nervous. You look like you're get nervous when we remember what happened when they play teams from the south oklahoma play clemson will happen got beat off. Okay georgia. Okay okay bama. What are they gonna play during the regular season because the heisman voting ins at the end of this case. I'm just talking about winning the heisman also i'm about winning in the national going okay okay and i got another one for you. The two running backs back for oklahoma and that does not include jalen hurts. Try sermon and kennedy brooks says pro football focus or arguably the two best running backs in the country. Let alone in the big twelve and in make you miss stats stats in lucidity both were at the very top of the national list last year so remember. I said this trae sermon kennedy brooks they are explosively explosively loaded all everywhere around the quarterback. He's got so many weapons but he will be the one who will stand out because his stats will be the one that we're dan. Alabama not been loaded okay and say there are low win. Have we not the cup. I mean think about de la without the yangyang zhang yang go every year running back loaded. We keep them coming. Every draft list i see alabama has seven guys exactly when in the first round okay okay i got that in that house what to do with winning the heisman trophy nothing it has zero what it does is that we're going to prevent the other team from getting the ball all into the end zone. They're going to get it back for us and tools go to have into cold. Savings led to a play so i could see him for like fifty two this year. Oh cabin about forty thirty five hundred yards. I can see that he's got some demons because that you know that blissful ignorance that he had for a while because he would just fling it he just dropped back and i can do that that and then all of a sudden that got intercepted and that fumble so who got clinton who got three i around than s._e._c. on defense okay so what's your point by point. Is there clemson defense and s._e._c. zero clemson defense in the big twelve. No i'm talking about the heisman to write first of all you would have to jump plus. You'd have to jump us. We're going to win every game. You're just going to win favor to win. Every game takes your favorite text thurgood. I respect sam l. that one no there for that. Let's go long legal now. Legal get those low horse kiffin next week because they're alang ohio state so i'm going to talk to him about jalen. I'm going to get some some on information. He tried to take you know he's done what he you know. What gino's knows this guy better than anyone does so shannon and a week. I'll have some new to he. He will win the national title with it that way got up on an if we died and went to football heaven okay oklahoma hey so he got. We already good morning. Thank you feel free to jump on our bandwagon entire you on. I'm not this time and place for everything. Including double teams we will explain all right time for our final topic of the day earlier. This week video came out of devon booker complaining about being double teamed by in a pickup game so this brought a social the media frenzy of current and former n._b._a. Stars weighing in former all star gilbert at booker should embrace doubles if he wants to become a superstar hawks star trae a young came to booker's defense saying double teams shouldn't happen in pick up games with some other players on board with as well shannon who saturday one with this one books get bigger game. Hey hey kennedy bucket. If you ain't got a look we're going to twelve or score going to get cooking go in his take the sale but you're gonna run double teams that made a pickup game skill trying to work by gay first of all a dream gig china and say he and draymond with double k. d. and pranks you were on the actual team and there might come a time but you might have to double down dame lillard or lebron james harden and get the ball in his hand. These guys are not gonna. It'll be teammate book the cook y'all so y'all go double them in a pickle game. Really what i know is. The background of how competitive that pickup game head becalm com okay was it getting for blood was earning money on the lower boot with cooking okay. That's what i'm saying. Did they get sick and tired of getting cooked until they find thank somebody else. Beat us right. I just i'm not sure about the competitive level. I said game but i must comment quickly on trae a young who backed up devon by twitter and you know double team in pickup but he then he did a hashtag only a few understand come yeah. Oh thank goodness. You're here in that genius level de w w skill you good rapport. Thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm johnny tapped. Join us again at the same time tomorrow morning nine thirty eastern. We'll see you then of.

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Equine Forum - December 19th 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

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Equine Forum - December 19th 2020

"From the rail to your radio this is the horse. Racing radio network half thanked him. Don stake up. That's one by contacting gumede. The final furlong out the sixteenth bowl. Gumming john velazquez rolling on home to win the breeders cup. Filly and bear sprints all gonna mean welcome to the equine forum divert dixon outside the to the derby switched third thirty. Here's whitmore striding forward for the lead him. The final pumped up breeders sprints. What a day in the career abyss seven year old whip four a-rod ortiz. Junior pep won the breeders cup sprint. Now here's mike penna. Good morning once again. Everyone and welcome to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network. This is the show that quite frankly started at all the show. That launched a network has to say mike baron on the backstretch with you for the next couple of hours right up until ten. Am eastern you of course are listening. Throughout north america on sirius. Xm to oh one on our affiliates in lexington louisville and across the country or digitally with our live streaming or podcasts of the show on our hr website horse racing radio dot net. Happy to have you along for the next couple of hours. One hundred thirty three days nine hours forty three minutes and wait for it. Five seconds until the run for the roses saturday i churchill downs in louisville kentucky. And did you know there have already been fourteen kentucky. Derby prep races run in twenty twenty fourteen. You might miss that eight in the united states six internationally. The most recent was yesterday afternoon in. You may not have been paying attention because it was a friday and it was at remington park in oklahoma but there was derby points race. Run yesterday and send your boost cadore which by the way means sir seeker was seeking remained perfect in his young career and he did just that in winning the springboard mile. Earning ten points toward a spot in the starting gate on the first saturday in. May he'll need a lot more than that and the waters will get much deeper for. Send your boost couture but the send a mine. Shaft is now a perfect to for to begin this young career. No horse that is running. The springboard mile has ever gone on to win the kentucky derby that certainly not the case for the los alameda futurity which is set to be run later today in california six kentucky derby winners have run in the low sale futurity and then on the next year to where the roses three of those finished. Second one finished third and was unplaced in the future already. Only one horse has won. Both the los alameda futurity and the kentucky derby can you name him. That's our trivia question for today show. Usually i do a poll question today. I thought it would be a fun trivia question. Who is the only horse to win. Both the los alamitos futurity and the kentucky derby. Let's see how many people in our nation get it right. I can take it a step further and say name. The horse that was unplaced. The only horse. Let's do it that way to all right. Let's let's have a little fun. Who is the only horse to win both below saleh meet charity and the kentucky derby and named the only horse to be unplaced in the future already and come back and win the kentucky derby the next year. Yeah that's fun to part question. They're the only horse to win. Both the los alameda sturdy and the kentucky derby and then name the horse the only horse to be unplaced futurity and win the kentucky derby following spring. Cianci's gonna love me for that one you can go to. Hr in twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. And let me know your thoughts. I'll pass those along later in the program. See how many people get that right. Today's field in the futurity is relatively small. Just six horses. And if history is any indication you would be very wise and we can say this about a lot of races including the kentucky derby by the way you would be very wise to keep an eye on any horses trained by hall of famer bob baffert and this year that arrow points straight at spielberg. Who was second choice at odds. Five to to. Bob has won the futurity a record twelve times there are there are trainers who work their tail off in this sport every single day and they would give their right arm to win twelve stakes races. Let alone graded stakes. Bob has won this particular race twelve times including each of the past six years. Now that streak that streak. It's not a chip shot this year for bob. That street could be in jeopardy because of the morning line favorite red flag who comes from barnard trainer. John sheriff's he throttled spielberg earlier this year. And they'll get a rematch in the grade to loselle futurity later today. That's race four on the card in southern california four twenty eight pacific time seven twenty eight eastern is when you can catch los alamitos. Futurity should be a good one. How about our old friend mack. Field remember him boy. what a career. It's been for max 'field already. The undefeated street cents returns again at the fairgrounds today in the stakes. He broke his maiden first out in september. Two thousand nineteen. He comes right back in the second. Start and wins the grade. One breeders futurity at keeneland. Everything is coming up roses from ashfield and that's exactly what his connections were. Thinking goes to the breeders cup juvenile in two thousand nineteen at santa. Anita get scratched right. Before the race with a bone chip he returns on may twenty third of this year to win the matt win at churchill. Downs great training job by walsh. And he would have missed the derby on the first saturday in may but with being moved to september because of the pandemic was one of the likely favorites will in june. Max 'field suffers yet another injury. This time a counselor fracture that required surgery. He's off the derby trail for the second time. Brutal absolutely this is a tough game. You better have your big boy pants on. If you're gonna play in this game off the trail for a second time. He returns today. We'll see him in action later today at the fairgrounds. And i'm going to talk with jimmy bell. Who is the president of us godolphin. Operation's he's going to be women coming up at eight thirty five eastern time to talk about the return of max field. Yesterday tim wilkin wrapped up a brilliant thirty five year career writing about horse racing for the albany times union. I believe it was nineteen eighty five the first year that tim started covering horse racing at other sports too in the albany region but he was so good it covering horse racing he worked as he worked tirelessly and he's been a a regular guest on this program the past several years. He typically joins us every travers morning and coming up at nine eastern. I'm going to spend some time with tim. Yesterday was his final day at the albany times union. I'll spent some time looking back on his career and listening to him share some stories some of his top moments. There have been several and really looking forward to that visit with tim. One of the classiest guys you're going to meet in thoroughbred racing too so that comes up at nine eastern at nine twenty. Eric camelback will be with me. Eric is the ceo of the national. Hp steve asmussen wrote an op. Ed piece that appeared in the december first edition of td and it involves racetrack safety. Not in the afternoons necessarily but during morning training. And eric's going to be with me from the hp to talk about steve's peace and share his thoughts from the horsemen perspective. And why this is such an issue so that comes up at nine twenty my first guest on the show kind of doing this in reverse my first guest at eight fifteen and just a few minutes is the husband. Wife team of ryan and andrew aggressive. They have started. Horsing julep racing club. And it's a fun fun venture. I'll tell you more about that. At eight fifteen or they will. It's it's really neat looking forward to that. Visit coming up in just a couple of minutes o. Rien and andrea aggressive coming up at eight fifteen eight thirty five jimmy bell from godolphin or industry star of the week comes around right right about eight fifty nine o'clock tim wilkin from the albany times. Union eric camelback from the bpa at nine twenty four roses bourbon segment in the second. Half of the program as well and special holiday. Treat for all of you looking ahead to Christmas which is coming up very shortly as we know. I don't back with more on the forum on h. R. airdrie stud cairo prince the leading third crop sire by number of stakes winners stakes horses graded stakes winners and graded stakes horses. He's also a top five general sire by the number of two-year-old winners so far in two thousand twenty and current crop of yearlings is his first conceived at a twenty five thousand dollars stud fee yearlings from cairo. Prince's fourth props sold for up to four hundred thousand dollars this year underlining his incredible commercial appeal at fifteen thousand dollar stands and nurses for twenty twenty one cairo prince's value in the extreme standing at airdrie stud think about it pie. This is joe. Nicholson during these difficult times. The team nicholson insurance agency. Since best wishes to all for good health we all look forward to better times ahead when this pandemic is behind us. But in the meantime we need to stay safe although the staffing nicholson insurance is working from home. Phone calls into the office or forwarded so that service remains intact. Customer service professionals. Continue to be ready willing and able to help you with your insurance needs whether it'd be equine farm home auto business or life. Several of nicholson insurance agencies. Companies are returning portions of auto premiums because of reduced travel during the isolation period. Which i think is the right thing to do. Please call eight five nine. Two two four seven zero eight zero. Nicholson insurance agency. Thank you the national. Hp is continuously working near protect the health and welfare of horses by advocating and funding research to help reduce quite injuries. Lobbying for national testing lab to oversee and establish absolute uniform laboratory protocols advocating for every track to undergo an annual independent surface assessment passionately. Supporting off the track thoroughbred retirement facilities and adoption groups and so much more see additional. Hp initiatives at national hp dot com racing fans. Don't miss opening day next saturday. December twenty six the day after christmas spectacular santa anita although there were still no public. Admittance you can watch every santa anita race free of charge at santa anita dot com slash live. And you can watch and wager it. I bet that's i dot com slash beck. Santa anita will present a total of sixty. Six on opening day highlighted by the great one. Run happy malibu. And two other great ones the la brea seven furlongs and for the first time ever on opening day. The american oaks milem one quarter on her tune in early on opening day special. I post time a tremendous eleven race. Card is eddie eleven. Am and don't miss track announcer. Frank mir ahmadi ahmadian. Tom quigley as a handicap. The opening day racist beginning ten twenty a m next saturday. For additional information please visit santa. Anita dot com. The steve asmussen. You're listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network and they are coming with a flurry of the quarter pole. Favorite trick has yet to start. His run. capetown is gearing up. he's five lengths away top for this threat and real quiet gets delayed on the outside and the entirely is under the weapons. Second kate town. We'll have to do more victory gallop at nine but real quiet about the poll. He's got bullied by to india. Charlie victory gallop still coming real worried. Victory gallopers toiling played. Wins the one hundred. Twenty fourth running of the kentucky derby welcome back to the forum on h. r. n. Kirk becker bringing them home in the nineteen ninety. Eight run for the roses. I play that clip because that was the same event the same year that i became engaged to my wife. Shelf got engaged with the kentucky. Derby a ninety eight real quiet went on to win. It was a spectacular day. A very memorable day for a lot of different reasons and i know that we could say the same for the husband. Wife duo of ryan andrea aggressive. Who are with me now. From horse racing club in south carolina ryan first of all a welcome you to the program will welcome andrea there with two. Let's start with ryan for a second. good morning. my friend thanks for taking the time. Good morning mike. Thank you so much. For having us on it's It's really surreal to be on his To be on the other side of the radio of after being a fan for so long and listening to all your shows. It's quite something well. I'm excited for this visit in andrea. Welcome to the program as well. i don't know did you guys get engaged at erasing event or was it a totally separate thing. I'll let andrea answer that it was a totally separate thing. But the special thing about our stories out ryan really pursued in horse country i think ever and when we were dating i think that was the first trip we took together. I knew taken. yeah fantastic. Aken is one of those places. That's on my bucket list. I've never been This past week. I had a chance to visit trainer ron stevens. Who trained in for more than thirty years in a train for dogwood and we'll talk more about him. I'm sure during this interview but Ron was just a fantastic guest on trainer. Talk this past week and ryan you were instrumental in helping me set. I can't thank you enough. It was my pleasure. I think I think the world iran. I think he's just phenomenal and love is stories. I love his You know just his personality and His craft you know and success with horses is has really been phenomenal and I was really glad to be able to connect you guys all right. So tell me more. And i'll just throw it to each of you and you can take it and run with but tell me more about horse and julep racing club. What is it. How does it work. How did the concept come about. Yeah i'll start Mike i I've been i've been a horse enthusiasts longtime celebrate enthusiasts almost twenty years now. I was one of those guys Mike that Spent more time studying. Pedigrees and racing forms in in my college classes than than textbooks however My background is primarily in in broodmares and matings and foaling and The racing element came along kind of developed a little later on and as andrew and i got married She came from a non racing background at also. I had my work cut out for me to to bring her along with With me and this. And so. I started taking her to some of these. You know places that. I felt like we're so special. I just wanted to introduce her to and so. Obviously lexington is at the center of that you would go and see You know mayors and foles that we had and and go see stallions and go to keeneland that we went to to saratoga race track. I mean sir. Togas just amazing Had a lot of fun in that community and go to places like ache in and Quaint little town even even places like gulfstream car in south florida. A lot of fun to offer. So i basically Tried to bring her along in in in in the they find experience element of all this and then from there Got her blessing to Take involved in some groups Some racing groups and we've done that and we had a little success But i will say the some of the things that we really wanted from that were Community and more that experience and we felt like that was an area that We we really felt like we could could offer more My background in our background together. We we love hospitality. We love getting people together whether that's here on trips Just r d in our dna and our life-blood so When we kinda had this crazy idea about a year ago and i reached out to fill haggar He's an agent kentucky. And i bounce this off of them a year ago last january and i said hey what what do you think about starting a group and and you know really want to build it around experiential and community and people meet each other and and have a lot of fun maybe even before the race the get to the races and thinking about how you could do that. I've always thought that You know a lot of the the best of the partnerships They they leave a lot on the table when they when they buy in in september and take them right to you. Know training center like ocala. 'cause you miss out in kentucky you miss out on lexington the bluegrass which is so and so We're going to back up and we're going to buy here in in january More the club this month We hope to have all the spots reserved by the end of the month here. And we're gonna form healthy and llc will go and buy january Feel is going to select those horses for us. And he is just phenomenal up and coming star He's just had great success. Worked under some phenomenal people like bill. Motte and you know other top. Agent's like Forgetting the names right now. But he's kind of worked at the success so we wanted to partner with just really successful people to give us the are group the best chance of success so the horses go from there to darby dan farm. I've got a relationship with them and you just wonderful see this vision in sierra passionate and said hey you know let your horses grow up here for the next you know for that. Six eight months before they go to the training facility in our partners will be able to go meet up there at some point Pending all this virus stuff. But we're we're planning to do that To get the partners together there and then from there they'll go down to south carolina to train We're hoping to get the partners. They're together as well. Wait this fall and do the same exact thing and have a great weekend out of it and we. We really excited to to put on some great for The the members before the horses even get to the races and then we've got obviously great aspirations for success there and diagnose great trainers defied that we to work with So mike that's really the the spirit of what we're trying to get through here andrea ryan mentioned that you were not into horse racing when he met you and i i read on your website. That your first intro into racing came about a decade ago with the queen's cup which is a steeplechase event held every year in south carolina Tell me a little bit more about about your involvement and what this rights been like for you. Sharon steeplechase the queen's cup in charlotte definitely and ryan and i are mutual friends. We'd gather there every year and every year. The girls hats are has got a little bit. Bigger each year We really put a lot into it. Just coordinating making it a fun time. and ryan would always take the lead and hosting and seeing his hospitality side. Come out One of the things that i was really drawn to him When we first started dating And i would make sweet tea. Mint juleps You know we just have a good time. Is it in by the way. I want to correct myself. I think i said south carolina that's held in is used at charlotte north carolina's where the queen's cup is But isn't that what at its core racing is all about andrea. We say that about the kentucky derby all the time that the fact that you can go and get dressed up and put on the big hats and guys can put on the finest coats and ties or you can go into the infield. Just hang out with a short not shorts and tee shirt. Whatever it is that. That's i mean to hear the way that you've gotten involved in what's captured you That's what the sports all about. Isn't it that's correct absolutely. Yeah and then. Addition you know to those races just the experiencing different cultures that these towns have offer where you know. I love to travel. I love experiencing different cultures and communities. And you know when ryan i were dating and his exposing me to these different communities. I learned that. I really don't have to go far. You don't have to go abroad to get An elegant experience you know and and try new foods and different people and see beautiful scenery. Yeah and it's going to be great. That people can experience this through the new horse in julep racing club. Which by the way if you wanna learn more You can go to horse and julep dot club that's horse and julep dot club and Check out the website. One thing ryan that. I told you that that really stood out to me when i looked at. Your website was the family aspect and i think that's going to draw a lot of people in Because of the fact that taken experience the sport on a bit of a a a different level they can do it together as a family they can do it as an individual and and they can be around your family and and go down this road with you guys. And i think that's fantastic ryan mike that is Something that we we definitely pride ourselves and we we just love. We love people. We let them of all all different Walks of life and that we actually have young. Kids yourself mike. We've got a four year old and a seven year old. And they love you know going to kentucky and they love seeing the horses and feeding some carrots and We you know we just launched this thing two weeks ago And we have been talking to a lot of people who this is resonating with and Some of the spots who that have already been taken Our our families with young kids and then got on the other spectrum. We've got grandparents with grandchildren. That are excited. Exposed them to this Sport and you know retirees that want to do this with with their retirement and then everything between You know people in careers professionals. So it's gonna be all walks of life and that's what we're excited about. People that have never owned horses before are signing up to do this which is really You know amazing that they're entrusting us with their first experience and then there's people who have actually been very successful in the game and if owned a lot of courses on their own and wanna do this because they want camaraderie and experience with people and community and we welcome all those people. It's it's going to be a lot of fun. And they are in good hands with your trainer. Phil hager to or bloodstock agent phil hager. Who is going to be over suing seeing things and picking out those babies and again partnerships. Yeah right now. Horse and julep dot club is where you can learn more or you can give ryan and andrea call. And i'm sure they'll be more than happy to answer any of your questions ryan andrea. Listen really appreciate the visit This interview like oliver interviews brought to our listeners by embrace the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle folks can wear what they love at embraced the race dot com and appreciate the visit this morning. Happy holidays and all the best horse and julep club mike. Thanks so much. And we're looking forward to that. I call for the interview after the first graded stakes adventure. Don't forget her number. That's exactly right. i'll be all over it. You got it ryan andrew. Thank you so much. Happy holidays mike. All right happy holidays guys. Yeah fantastic course and julep dot club a cool idea and we'll see how that plays out but it it seems certainly like this is going to be a big hit and i think you'll enjoy being involved with them. They're they're great people Speaking of great people it is time for your lexus. Legends of the turf segment. Brought to you every single saturday at this time by the lex historic lexington when i come back visit with jimmy bell. The president of godolphin's us operations and the president of the after care alliance. I'll talk to him about max field and about thoroughbred after care right after your lexus legends of the turf this lady had a wealth of character. A marvelous vibrant personality and she was indeed an inspiration to others. She was a lady through and through and the roaring nineteen twenties while still under twenty. She entered the world of racing as the owner of a steeplechaser. A racing stable brooke mead came into existence. A few years later she was at burst upon positi and great delight in needling and openly deflating and obvious inflated ego or infectious sense of humor provided her the tool for doing so especially in times of stress perhaps equally as synonymous with brooke meets stable and success. Where the names of precedent elliott burch. Who trained her horses. Preston began training for our lady of the moment in nineteen forty four and on october. Twenty first of that year he saddled her dear me for her in the maryland handicap at laurel. Dear me whip the redoubtable twilight here by seven lengths in that affair and that was virtuous first of a long long list of sakes winners. He saddled for brooke made birch was very patient with young horses and he and are subject. Probably receive more thrills from a horse named sailor than any other racing in her colors that was in the decade of the fifties while others racing in her colors included sword. Dancer bowl of flowers oligarchy. Her superb flower bowl won the delaware handicap in nineteen fifty. Six and on may second nineteen fifty. Nine sword dancer won the derby for her while on the very same day. 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Nineteen seventy eight aboard affirmed and you are listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network bracing for the top of the stretch new york traffic. An pneumatic pneumatic tries to cut the corner off to turn. Traffic comes a little bit lied keys to hook up with free sixteen to go. Traffics in front max. Field is making progress here comes next field rallying boldly of the track near traffic wanders outside pneumatic digs and medfield continues to close traffic and max field pneumatic down inside. Max field is thinking derby win by a length. Running new york traffic pneumatic and attachment rate. Well that's the way it sounded. The last time. We saw max 'field on the race track travis stone. Have the call of the matt winn stakes at churchill downs. He was a winner that day after having the scratch from the breeders cup juvenile the previous year month before brendon. Walsh did a great job bringing him back getting him. Ready to fire his best shot he would have missed the kentucky derby had it been held on the first saturday may keep in mind. That race was may twenty third of this year. He would miss the derby if it was on. The first saturday may but would have being moved to september. Max field was among the favorites for this year's kentucky derby when a second injury forced him off the derby trail for a second time that's brutal. It has been a tough tough career so far for max fuel but with that said he so good and so talented that he is a perfect three for three and a grade one winner as a two year old and today he looks to get back on track and proved that he is still the real deal in the stakes at the fairgrounds. And that would be welcome news to jimmy. Bell who is the president of godolphin's us operations. He is with me now. Here on the equine form. Jimmy good morning. My friend always great to catch up. Good morning to you enjoyed here in that race car. That feels like we're back in action. You're back in action in a big way today. And you know i went through earlier in the show and i just kind of recap that very quickly there but this has been such an up and down career for max 'field and i can imagine this has to be one of the more frustrating scenarios that you've ever been involved with well frustrating. Yes but on the other hand It there's a sense of confidence because not too often or year round horse. It obviously shows the talents. Max fields had from you. Know yourself Breaking your first time out going right from there into a great one race And obviously have another time out coming back and off the off the bench in run a race like that in the met win. So i mean he's in three racist he shown so much that Even though it's been a long time between races know what you always hope for. I don't think once we don't question. Is this talent and for that reason. We're really optimistic and excited the same back in action and and more importantly as you earlier alluded The patients that everybody has shown especially brendan and bringing him back and Hopefully we're we're looking for you know very productive for your season with a full body of work that can maybe show The talents of this this cult time and time again. So very very you know. We're very excited to be back in here. We are ready ready ready to run in the afternoon. You know jimmy. I come at this from the outside looking in but you are obviously intimately involved with every move. That takes place with mac 'field and i talked about earlier in the program. I talked about that training. Job that brendan did getting him. Back to the races after being scrapped from the breeders cup in two thousand nineteen the breeders cup juvenile. Getting him back for the matt win but not just back to the races getting him back and ready to fire his best shot after all that time. Off and overcoming that that initial injury. How good of a training job was that by brennan. Well i think i think he I think you hit on the head. I think is his hole. Card is tremendous patience. I think he region horses very well. These the consummate horseman himself. So you know. He's been both on their backs. And on the ground. And i think he's got that that extra sense of of Communicating with horses. That he himself you know we'll get on them and he's got that feeling nose and He he really lets the horse sort of talk to him and tell him when and where and we were on the phone just the other day and he said you know we're gonna have to run. He he's figured it out he's ready We know there's still probably few cobwebs and a little bit rust on the wheel. But that was the case. Obviously in the matt win as well and You know it just takes probably very very counted individual to be able to Only physically be ready to run but mentally. Be ready to run. And that's something. We probably don't talk about all the time. It's the mental aspect as well and One of the one of mexico's greatest attributes is mental toughness and just how he is so professional in how he goes about his daily routine and i think it makes a little easier for brennan to re him because he's he's very genuine. He tells you right where he is. And you know you. You've got to be able to be picking up on. All the signs and and brendan does a phenomenal job at that. Take me through the past seven months. Since that win in the matt win at churchill jimmy one of these past seven months but like from ashville well again. You know the good news. Is that neither neither one of the new. One of the time outs were were really. You know truly significant and we just we did the right thing about the horse gave him ample time to completely He'll come back get back into his own rhythm. And i think that You know this this game is built on hope and and you know that if you just get the opportunity to get him back you'll take care of the rest or certainly that's our feelings and listen. Today's no easy. It's never an easy spot coming back You know you're in there with with a tough force from Steve asked me. You gotta always respect that. Then there's always the hard knocking old horses alcohol's dolls got a tougher locally owned So this is a great spot to come back in. But it's not an easy spot but there's also no easy spots when you're out of condition so you can't just exactly dip your toe in the shallow when you gotta jump in and see where you're at and You know we. This is the beginning. This is this is. This is just what it is. This is hopefully the beginning of an important Year racing for him. You were kind enough. Jimmy by the way talking with jimmy bell the president of dolphins. Us operations you were kind enough to join me on this show. The morning of the matt win on may twenty third and one thing that you spoke about was his pedigree and he is a son of street. Sense out of bernardini mayor. Now i know that that's a pedigree this near and dear to to darley godolphin's heart but that pedigree bernardini has become an outstanding broodmare sire. What he's accomplished at his age is is really puts him at the top of the chart of a broodmare sires. You know you're a long time to come. And i mean it's just amazing. You just be casual reading steak entries. Or the pee pees on horse a much as another daughter burned any. That's another daughter bernardini and You know what he's accomplished is is really phenomenal and You know how great it is to have. of course. it's going to pass them on. We always talk about sour sons of cyrus sars in the in the mail on but To be able to carry on and make no mistake. His impact. is a broodmare sire. We'll be significant for really really generations to come and and a foundation for a lot of operations of having those young bernardine mayors jimmy. The news came out this past week by the way. Good luck with max 'field later today. I'll shift gears on us here. The news came out earlier this week. That you were elected once again as president of the third red after care alliance and that's an organization that i know from day one has been near and dear to your heart Talk about the importance of after karen this sports. I know sometimes. I think that might get overlooked a little bit when we start talking about all the racing so tell me about the importance of aftercare. Well you know it does exactly you hit it right on the head you know initially for i think we started in two thousand twelve Initially it was about just awareness. Awareness awareness making people aware of the after racing. And what goes on or just stop that day and so initially that just trying to make people aware and then we moved into educating people and now under you know understanding more after you become aware of the educational process and today some eight years into it. It's it's now talking about in terms of the obligation. You know this is. This is not a this this part of owning a horse. This is part of Having the blacksmith come by me these are all taking care of. The horse is an obligation as well so this whole thing has been awareness education obligation. And it's it's not an easy thing. Keep drilling on. But but i think it's become a part of the Sort of a plank in the platform of our industry that i think the industry involved in industry collectively understands and recognizes you know the this is a major component of owning a horse in and what the industry is doing and have made tremendous a tremendous move forward in that regard. I mean if you look at the day we have i think. Eighty one accredited organizations in over a hundred and seventy facilities We've we've generated over twenty million dollars and probably assisted. I think that eleven thousand thurber so yes very very significant and You know. I think that that one of the great things about the third reich after care alliance is is that it's it's sort of gotten the good housekeeping seal when you're raising that kind of money people really wanna worse going. What is doing. And i've jokingly said many times i'm not sure how well we would do when they come to Inspect and accredit your operation to be able to become accredited by the ta. I mean there's an education component. There's go through the facilities. People literally go to these places and look at them and talk to him about adoption policies You know they have to be an operation three or four years before you can even apply to this thing so we've got the confidence of everybody knowing that this money is going where it needs to be which is always a question mark when you're when you're making these kinds of contributions but you know the ta has come a tremendous long way. We got this. This is this is a big big problem in something that we can't just sorta take lightly but it's you gotta you gotta keep gotta keep out for everybody's Perspective what are some of the things moving forward jimmy that you would like to see accomplished by the t. a. n. On the after care. Front in general. Well i think funding you know funding has to be and we've got to. We've got to continue to find ways to be sustainable. I mean we get we get some great spikes in some great Ha moments were gosh. That was great. Somebody stepped up or somebody this but you know this is an industry obligation. Initially when we set this thing up. We tried to make many small touch points as possible. You know at the sales at the racetrack here. There and yonder just a little bit but It it's it. It takes a lot of You know a lotta bookkeeping a lot of communication coordination and you know one thing that i'm excited about is a look at the board of directors and the people that are involved from You know from officials in racing offense to sales companies to people jockey club to know everybody's got some areas of expertise and skill sets. That have made this. you know. Very very Significant operation and to answer your question. You know we've just got we've got to find that magic way to to get this thing sustainably-funded it's it's it's it's very hard going back every time and trying to reinvent the wheel and we can just get some overall by end where people understand is one for all all for one That's where our sustainability comes from and it's all about you know continuing to to fund this. It's as you can tell with one hundred and seventy facilities. And i think this year we we handed rewarded or granted over three million dollars. That's a lot to do every year in. You know it doesn't stop. You've got it every year so it's not like it's one time off and we got that done it's continue. And now you get to work alongside my man. Jeff bloom to absolutely and you know and again. that's glad you brought that up. I mean john phillips was the past president. Everybody's had a real skill set that it's been at the helm of thing and and brought a unique perspective of what they can do. Well you know. Get jack wolf. Initially you know did a fantastic job. It was not easy to get this off the ground then knock came in for a brief stint and pulled up john phillips back again as i said you even step aside which king step away and now jeff is going to go to take over next year after after mass my year. And you know again. There's a guy that's very committed. He understands that he's been on the ground He's compassionate about it and he's got spheres of influence others of us don't and You know again. Everybody brings a little something to the table and very excited to have jeff onside and he's been a big supporter all the way through. Well you can go to thoroughbred after care dot org if you wanna learn more about the thoroughbred after karelian again. Jimmy bellwood made the president of godolphin's us operations and the thoroughbred after care alliance jimmy. You would be hard pressed to find somebody. That's a better ambassador for our sport than you. My friend and i've known you long time and greatly appreciate all your efforts and everything you do for the sport and greatly appreciate you taking the time this morning. Happy holidays my friend bo. Same to you and what a great job you do kinda get a good message out this the other and listed it's It's an honor to be a part of this and Whenever little things we can do hopefully make a little difference but you know just pleased and privileged to be a part of it. Yeah thanks for the time jimmy. Merry christmas maybe you enjoy thanksgiving. Appreciate me jimmy bell here on the horse racing radio network fantastic work both on the inside and the after care side but you you want somebody to be a spokesperson for this industry and jimmy bells a pretty good choice. Yeah you'd be hard pressed to find a better choice than jimmy bell. 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And i love listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse. Racing radio network at the of these days is almost four on friday. Don't take some of our employees. I god this. Welcome back to the client. Corum on h. r. n. Trevor denman have the call of the nineteen ninety preakness the dogwood stable color bearer summer squall getting the victory turning the tables on derby winner unbridled. It was a tremendous performance. One that meant so much to kat and the people that caught campbell was around with dogwood. it was a special special moment indeed. And because of that. I thought it would be appropriate to honor longtime dogwood stable trainer ron stevens as our industry started the week. The segment brought to you every week by my good friend. Stuart morris who offers boutique full-service bloodstock operation. He wants to thank his owners his clients and his team. He knows his success is because of you and with multiple stakes horses over the past several years that include henley's joy our brain trust malagasy and south bend stewart. Morris is your source for success at the highest levels and you can visit stuart and his consignments at all of the major sales which will be coming up shortly. No doubt about it Stewart does a fantastic job So ron stevens train for cot campbell and dogwood for thirty plus years and it was a wonderful relationship. Ron has done fantastic work. And he joined me for the full hour on trainer. Talk this past week and you can go back and listen to that show presented by phasing. Tipton you can listen to it on our website. But he's done such great work that i thought it would be cool to cut out some soundbites and a that interview and play it for you. Here ron stevens. Our industry star of the week he started looking back on that performance and that talented colt named summer squall. Well i'll tell you what just listening to that stretch again. Like i have a thousand times. Still gives me goosebumps That was that was pretty exciting and You know cut had done a fabulous job of getting started with syndication but that really put him on the map. That was a real summer. School was a stamp of you. Know really making his mark and of course. Ah just boil over and help me out too so Yeah great memories We were talking about getting day and when we came to summer squall came day. Could there'd be broke. We bought him out of the summer sale from will farish and He was handful. He was a kind of an ornery little cuss but he was an athlete. And i remember back on the catalog page. When we looked at him. I had written some things like little small steady Didn't have the head instead. Is we used to call them. I guess pig is but now we call them summer. Squall is but he's a very intelligent cope but he was a little anri side but I've had big letters on that page athlete. He was just so athletic so quick. So light on his feet that he really got your attention to get but he handful and We rent him in trials here. And i'm the only trainer that got beat the two year old. He was five for five ending up by winning the hopeful but Neil howard who trained him was very kind. He's told people rounded sent him a baked cake and all they do is take him out of the oven which was You know help me out a little bit too. So i appreciate that. Neil and i are very good friends that have been for a long time. He's a great guy. Great trainer the summer school kind of put us on the map. And as you said got redemption for the kentucky derby. I i was there. I thought he had one but i think the crowd and some other things got him but He came back in redeemed himself. And of course the jim beam the bluegrass hopeful. Toga special and i don't think he got enough credit to stay in a lot of people know that he produced some nice mayor's broodmare sire but He also produce charismatic. You know And everybody remembers him. And what happened. At the belmont with chris hanley but And of course he has runners to like of course storm song. We picked her out at a september yearling sale and she would be a champion and wanna breeders cup up in canada so yeah summer squall will always have a big suspect in my heart. Who's the toughest horse that you've ever been around. Probably american donna cokie One of the first people that go to england and get some horses like dominion. Who was a nice day course and everybody started doing this so he went to had a doctor. Veterinarian go to argentina we bought two phillies up here. Face on and donna cocky There's a dna people don't remember but she was a nice mayor. She won the chief. Kid bay But a funny story at the farm it was just before we came back and i had a policy that when the horses came in we wanted to get their temperature check him out and i also had a policy that i wouldn't ask my groups do anything i wouldn't do so when the groom came up and said I need your help getting the temperature of this there. I knew something was up. Especially when i saw the other grooms huddle around. They're probably waiting to see me. Get kicked real good. So i walked up through the saw. I put my hand on her head. I ran up ear. I said hundred degrees right on the money and i turned and walked away The next morning groom couldn't catch her in a stall. And i went in and she wheel and fired with both hind legs and i grabbed some bars and hung like a monkey and she kept firing and then she looked at me and adjusted a little bit fire some more when she got tired. I dropped down and got out but she was very very tough way. The veterinarian never got a cassock separation on her before she raced Very never got high shoes on her at the farm trimmed. Her myself And when the bed header tranquilized as much as he could with straw bales behind her and tried to catholic. She's kicked those bales around like they were to fix so and probably the funniest story i remember was when she was racing after she had won the sheep's head bay cotton i. We're up there and we were getting ready to leave. Even walk down the shed row saying goodbye. The horses and As we walked by she charged hit the webbing and our teeth snapped. Sound like a rifle going off. And i didn't even break stride. He just kinda looked at her. And said we'll good buddy you don and we just kept on walking now. I will say that we bred her a couple of times and as a broodmare. She met her that she was fine but she was one tough son of again all right. Let's flip that around a little bit. How about the horse. That you would say was probably the most perfect young lady. The most perfect gentleman that went on to maybe do some really good things on the race track. I'm gonna have to switch from dogwood horrid. I've had wonderful class fantastic lance over the years and and one of those was mr net evans springhill farm and we had the pleasure of Having a horse that actually got a reputation for not being gentle but he was falsely accused. Snow be quality. Road road With a fantastic racehorse made over two million dollars and should make way more than that. But mr evans had he usually sold most of his coal to catch his phillies and at the sales that commit they he was having me look at most of the yearlings. And kinda give him an appraisal. What i thought and i love. This cold is big strong. Nice looking coat with kind. I and i said you know. I really like him. I wouldn't give him away. And he did our na him in september and kept him. He came to me on the first in november and he said now. I want you to person his co. 'cause i'm going to i i really wanna get rid of the cold so i'm going to put him back in the keeneland two year old sale. I said okay. I looked at the big colts already november but we went to work and he broke like a just like a puppy dog. This never took a bad steph. Never anything wrong perfect in the gate and when we started galloping. I saw the move into this cold. I told mr evans I'm not sure you want to sell him. You might wanna hang onto him. Well he said. Oh no no i want to sell him. And i trained horses for mr evans for twenty years. And he was a man when he made up his mind about something that was always going to be. And you didn't change it too often but Chris baker became his manager back about that time. And i got him on my side. He's so i'm training love to ganged up on him. And said are we really think you ought to keep this cold and to his credit and we were probably partly lucky to he kept quality road and that was the last really nice horse that he had He wanted to florida. Derby was a favorite for the kentucky derby or co favorite and then got a quarter crack. His reputation came up as big. A handful was that the breeders cup where he was like co-favourite for the five million dollar race and just before the race the Tv helicopter came out taking pictures and he got a little bit rattled. And i promise you that. I swear that they give him thirty seconds to settle and just to walk them in the circle the headed and he would have been fine because after that race todd pletcher. Who had him and trained him School him he never did anything wrong in the gate again. He ran many more times. Never did anything wrong and again but they were in a hurry. I guess they grab even twisted it there and through a blindfold on him and they had twelve hundred pounds of muscle. That said no. You're not going to make this happen. So he got a reputation of being a bad gate horse which he was not he was one of the easiest. Nicest that i've worked with Just a couple of the fantastic stories. From ron stevens longtime trainer for dogwood and as you heard him say other clients as well in south carolina. Run our industry star of the week in that interview in that segment. Brought to you every saturday. By stuart morris gonna get to a break. When i come back hour number two. It kicks off with tim. Welcome from the albany times union. Eric camelback will be with me. From the hp a to talk about steve asmussen's op. Ed that appeared in the december first. Td end so a lot of things to get to in the second half of the show. That's all the head right after we pause ten seconds for station identification. 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If you any portion of the first half of the show you miss jimmy bell with a sensational interview. Talking about max 'field a thoroughbred after care. That's something you want to go back. And listen to the industry star of the week. You just heard ron stevens and ryan and andrea greg with of the horse and julep racing club talking about that new concept and launching those partnerships head back over to our website if you missed them horse racing radio dot net a podcast of this show will be available after we finish up at ten o'clock eastern Horse racing radio dot net and horse racing radio network on apple podcasts throughout eight trivia question for you today in honor of the los alamos futurity which would be run later today in southern california and six kentucky derby winners have run in the los l. futurity and then gone on of course where the roses the following spring. Only one horse has won both races. Can you name him. Can you name the only horse to win. Loselle futurity and the kentucky derby can go to hr n. Twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. And i'll pass along that answer and all the correct answers later in the show. Second part of that question of those six three finished second one finished third. Of course he had the one winner. One horse of the six was unplaced. Only one finished off the board in the los futurity and then came back. The following year to win the kentucky derby. Can you name that horse so to parts of that question and you can do it on our social media pages at h. r. n. on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. Well i told you that the second half of the show was going to kick off with a very special interview tim. Wilkin has had an unbelievable career covering thoroughbred racing. Thirty five years with the albany times union. That career came to a close yesterday. But i thought it would be appropriate before he introduce you to tim to welcome him by looking back on. Well kind of where it all started their goes chief's crown gaining ground fast account with mccarron on the rail. She's the favorite now moves. In the second gaining garland the center they approached the topless wrench. It's cutlass reality. On the rail on the outside chief further out there goes creme maple on the rail with bin chi stephens out. See she's crown reality stephens honestly on the real honestly all rail pincay now gains the lead on the outside has sheaves crown and father out here comes cram past the eighth pole. His the entry of what he savings. Creme fresh maple seven with pin chi. She's crown third home. Fresh on the outside has a lead by steph impression from well that was the nineteen eighty five travers. Stakes and tim wilkin. That's where it all began for you. I know you've covered the travers every year since and it's been a magical ride really appreciate the visit my friend. Hey mike thanks it. Awful lot for that Yeah i don't know whether years though the only the good part is still cover racing for the paper. Yeah it's great to have you still involved. You're retiring from the times union. You'll be able to stay involved with thoroughbred racing which is great news. Yeah and And i'm not going to give the answer. But i think i know your question for trivia questions. Yeah you'll have a tweet to me. You ought to respond on the twitter and say yeah i. I'll do that. Yeah i don't know where the thirty five years have gone. I mean it's just Data like yesterday. I was Going up and just trying to find my way to the saratoga press box for the first time. And you know i i mean i. I seven years in the business. I was working for the sarah token newspaper. So i've actually had forty two years of of saratoga coverage in this seems it's my boggling to think that it's thought that law maybe it doesn't feel right doesn't feel like it's been that long but yeah so and here we are. Yeah you know the the call we just heard. I think i said chief's crown travers. That was your first travers eighty. Five that was creme fresh winning the belmont stakes and eighty five. But that was the year that you started tim. And when you started in eighty five did you ever imagine we'd be sitting here in twenty twenty and talking about you wrapping up this career at the times union. All these years later that back then. I was just hoping that if eighty five i was keep i never had any illusions that I'd still be doing this long. But i guess i'm like a river. I just keep moving when you think back on these thirty five years and there was a a piece that appeared. I think it was in the albany times union. I saw it on twitter That had you looking back on some of your top memories not just with horse racing but the other stories and people that you covered over the years. What are some of the things on the racing side that truly stand out to you lawyer. I could probably talk to you on that until opening day at saratoga There's just so so many obviously covering saratoga is just not only been a pleasure but it's been treat to be able to go up there every morning. Which is the best part of the day for me to to the in the mornings and you know watch workouts. Talk to trainers when i started. I'd be out there. Listening to woody stephen sitting on as poli telling every day that the end of conversations that wanna remind at one five months in a row and was always special talking to what he talked to the d wayne lukas in his office. wayne with tell me that He'll yet he had Not shutters but Yes you even have as windows shut. So no one could see in but he said that he could see out. He was always telling me when he saw me he would allow me to commend because he liked me. And that only you know resonated with me that you know i got the respective someone like him and just down the road from him it. Oklahoma traded trans nick. Zito always had plenty of great conversations with saint dick and You know and still do to this day and the list goes on and on with the trainers that i've talked to when you know i've gotten a relationship that bob baffert helped up my calls and so you'll talk about everything ranging from you. Know his horses to his His you know his critics and and also the people that With all the problems with the positive. He's very spend very frank with me about that and again and the horses to i mean Who would love to be able to do what i do. Be able to go out there and see these great animals Perform in the mornings before they look at the work in the afternoon. You know rachel. Alexandra a sheet or pops up as one of the most impressive ones ends yada during the breeders cup. Though when you're able to see her and listening to john sheriff's tell the great stories about yada You know i could name poor at this year with skydiver I got to get up close and personal with and she was. She's just inquisitive friendly animal. Who's just a beast on on the racetrack. So you know i. I just can't You know tell you. How grateful i am that i've been able to do all of that. Does the same with tim wilkin. Who as you heard me say wraps up a thirty five year career with the all many times union. He'll still continue to cover racing. Which is great news for all of his fans out there and there are plenty of those tim last year. You were honored with the walter. Hate award from the national turf writers. Broadcasters that's a prestigious award that Honors career excellence in writing on thoroughbred racing. What's the there have been several pieces that you've written that will resonate with people but how about for you. What's the one or two stories that you have written over the years that are going to be among your favorite stories boy. That's a loaded question right. There might Scrap answer that. I'm going to answer it in a different way. Maybe just chronicling different events Obviously the the Triple crown runs of Justifying especially american farrell. Because farrell is the first one that did it since a firm that was those are magical moments for everyone that follows thoroughbred racing and everyone that covers over racing. Because i've been to a you know a handful of a bunch of those Belmont stakes were the triple crown. The line and there was so much in patient saying this year filing be year and never was you know what the likes of funny cide. Kroll and I mean easy. Goer beat sunday sunday. silence In the belmont there was just so many of those moments that you know you would be. The people were waiting to explode. Elmont park to welcome the next triple crown winner when it finally did happen. Roar at belmont park with ferrell was bounding down the stretch. That day was something that i never. I never heard sound like that and it was a and that's an outdoor Place i mean. It was just a celebration of of finally getting triple crown winner. And i mean the the noise level at saratoga when rachel alexandra the voice of the woodwork in two thousand nine that was That was another home in Forever remained in my mind. I my is special. You know that You could be basically you really could hear the rafters shaking. When she won that race. You know those are the things that You don't forget and Now i hope i have a bunch more memories like that to to to Experience but no so far. I mean there's been so many of them. I remember doing stories leading up to triple crown rods and talking to people Failed you know. And how they what their emotions were like. I mean i did that before I did it before justifies crowd. Talbot wait. I think i did it before. Farrell's triple crown win. And then and i did that You know it seems like every year and another story to just recently is the exploits of Tis the laws goes up are parts. it's Because the local ownership with toga stable and the act older was a big story around here. You know covering barkley tag. A daily basis is to me a very very much an enjoyable experience in You know i. I hope he Obi rebounds from the breeders cup runs big pack of your. I referenced the piece. That and i believe it's in the albany times today. Tim was it yesterday Talking about some your top memories. i think it's online now. Okay final column supposed to here tomorrow. and but i guess basically. I'm i guess i'm still going to have i do year end stuff. That's going to appear next week so some people. I think i'm lying. When i say i'm leaving because my pick my my violent will be in the paper next week but rest assured after that you won't see me for a while until the horses the till the spring probably as excited to to do the interview with you but one of the pieces that is included in that online feature about your top moments is a chat that you had with your longtime friend. Mike jarboe who worked with you at the albany times. Union mike is no longer with us. He passed away but when he retired in. Two thousand fifteen. You sat down with him for a question and answer that had to be. I can imagine one of the more special things that you've done looking back on the fact now that that makes no longer with us it was. It was mike and i had a really good special relationship and We you know we did this thing. Every summer in the in the paper was just back and forth doing the bankroll beatdown every day and it became pretty popular people hated or loved it there though in between with mike was a good a good character who had no problem laughing at himself. But you know he He relished the idea of being able to be made fun. Of which i did on a daily basis and those queuing as that i that i did too i did with him. It's something i would do on a regular basis. And i did a lot of with racing people africa zito. D wayne lukas. Todd pletcher chad brown. I mean just about everybody jockeys to you know and i just decided. I think people were giving me their time. You know covering racing especially in the morning was not going to cover baseball or football or your window locker room and talk to the players after after their games after a practice. I mean you're out there in the mornings. They're working and you have to work around their schedule and that's one of the things i wanted right away. You talk to them when they're ready to talk to you unless you're jewish you just up and say i'm ready to talk to you. let's go that's That was the things she had to learn. And it's you have to have a lot of patients to cover horse racing. And i think i've learned that pretty well. Lemme there's gonna be a lot of people in the capital region who were going to miss your your articles your columns your insight into two different things but in horse racing were very blessed. You'll be able to continue covering it. I look forward to when we travel again getting back out. See you at the races and You know looking forward to seeing more great stuff from tim. Wilkin up over the next two years As we we continue to watch you cover racing but man. Congratulations on unbelievable career. Thirty five years in the albany times union is certainly very special and really appreciate appreciate the visit here this morning. Yeah i appreciate you. Give me the time to have this visit like. I've always enjoyed our time when our paths would cross especially when We would be on the air on travers. They always have fun doing that. That'll continue. Yeah you're spot is already reserved. It wouldn't be travers morning without tim. Wilkin why appreciate your saying that. But i think it probably would be. But i appreciate the sentiment timmy. Listen i appreciate it buddy. Have have a great holiday and Again thanks for being here this morning. Mike thank you and happy holiday to you yours. Tim wilkin that interview. Like oliver interviews brought to you by embrace the race. The apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Where would you love and embrace your passion at embraced the race dot com so cool that he's going to be able to continue covering racing for the albany times union. That's part of his deal as he walks away after thirty five years and Yeah really does a fantastic job. He's dedicated and to his. Writing is just so much fun to read some great stories there from tim. 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You're listening to the equine on the horse racing radio network damning here and being put them put me in the hall of fame in this class is putting my parents in the hall of fame and everything. My father did was never a look at me. Never an award for it but is the definition of man and are we're standing up your means celebrated and honored for and i think this is definitely for you that thank you forever. You always done for me in your family. That's an emotional. Steve answer as he was inducted into horse racing hall of fame in two thousand sixteen. It was a very special day. We were there providing that coverage here on the horse racing radio network and Yeah that was. That was a special moment for steve for his family. And only dale baird has more victories in thoroughbred racing than steve asmussen and on december first steve wrote a piece in op ed to the thurber daily news and involved the issue of race track safety but not in the afternoons in the mornings when trainers are sending horses out for their morning works in their training sessions and to help me shed more light on that. Is eric camelback. The ceo of the national hp. A eric good morning appreciate the visit. My friend hey. Good morning mike. Yeah very glad as always to be invited to get on the show and You know just always appreciative of what you do for us. And and thanks for having me on. Well steve piece Focused as i said much more on the issues of tracks limiting are dictating when a track would close the surface for morning training and and basically take a day off and as we know from reading through this piece. In hearing steve's fahd's on it that's something that can be detrimental to the training schedules of horses and ultimately the health of horses. So tell me a little bit more about this This op ed. That steve rowe. Yes no i. I and i certainly don't want to speak for steve. But we were able to have conversations before he put this out there and getting my opinion or giving him my opinion. I just really am passionate about the same thing he is. And that overall picture of equine health and safety needs to incorporate professional horseman trainers that. Marion's that take care of these horses every day. And you know that got pinpointed into something very specific for him. And i've had a tremendous number of calls since his op. Ed from other trainers that really again. Seeing this this short-sighted cost cutting move that that's being portrayed by race track ownership some racetrack ownership groups. It's not healthy for the horse and it's certainly not allowing trainers to do what is in the best interest of their horse and i also had a numerous calls from owners that to be honest. Had no idea right. They were not aware that they had policies being dictated. And i think the one thing that i wanna make sure is clear. And i think steve would too. It's not about not giving a horse that a day off Imagine there's too many horses out there that don't have a scheduled walk day but at the end of the day that needs to be scheduled by the professionals taking care of the horse. I mean right. Now we're in a world of scrutiny and doing what's best for the horse so if you in essence handcuffed professional trainers and say we're gonna take this day off and it doesn't matter What your horses schedule. Is that presents a problem to horses. And you know being able to to then go in and have dr hawk talk about something that i that i had mentioned. to steve. You know in my day on the race track in louisiana growing up. When it's hot we always had issues with forces tying up. I mean it was a big. It's a it's a problem. I mean it is and that was something that i was glad. Dr hawk agreed with and certainly really drew down the veterinary aspect These horses need to get out and exercise and to have a mandated day that that oftentimes doesn't take into account weather You know if you have a horse. Scheduled to to breeze on sunday The weather's not good but you're you're mandated. Day off is monday Your your entire schedule for that horse gets thrown off So i think it's important that if you really look at the overlying picture of what steve's trying to convey it's not just about the day off that's being mandated it's about the fact that many of these ownership groups are continuing to dictate What they consider safety measures and ultimately not taking into account other opinions such as horsemen Such as veterinarians. And i i would i would venture to say there's several superintendents that are out there. That would also maybe not on the record but say you know a day off for the racetrack. Sitting idle is not good for the racetrack So having the ability to to work the racetrack is extremely important. I say many many times. I've said you know a racetrack as much like a plant it is completely Affected by the weather and ultimately if you're not there to take care of it something's going to go wrong and if something goes wrong with the track we've seen it. Horrific ways is something goes wrong with attract. Something goes wrong with the safety of our horses. Will you know. Here's a point that. I wanna make eric what what happens. And i want to ask you the second question here in a minute but in terms of a lot of times when we start seeing horses get ready for the kentucky derby trainers will base the final workout or final couple of workouts before the derby on the weather conditions and say for example. A track is closed on a tuesday. Let's just pick a random day. They're closed tuesday. That was a day that the trainer was going to have this horse. Work for any big race doesn't have to be the kentucky derby all of a sudden. They closed on tuesday so the horse can't go to the track that day wednesday. There's a deluge of rain. The track is a c- a slop. The trainer says okay. I can't train today either now. You've gone two days without getting your workout in and you have to come back the following day assuming that the track condition is good. Or you're forced to work over that sloppy racetrack. Which a lot of trainers don't like to do is that really. At the core a scenario that could play out they could be very very detrimental to horses themselves Well if you go one step further with your analogy or they skip the race. You know did that. That's get racing secretary involved in this and you talk about horses scratching because they can't do their scheduled workout What i see is the core of this being that the health and welfare of the animal is being able to train each day. But yes when you're scheduled to go into a particular race like you said it could be a great at stake. It could be a maiden special weight if you get thrown off schedule and you're not able to do what is in the best interest of the horse and the trainers opinion right. We're entrusting these trainers to take care of the horse. Get them to the races and get them back home in their stall safely. If they're not able to allow their protocols and regimes they may skip race. They may have to scratch from the race. They you know certainly don't want to necessarily work in the rain or or you know. Have a horse go over a track that they've determined you know you know before the break the track's not great. I'm not work after the break. You know oh. Yeah by the way using your analogy. Wait a minute attracts closed tomorrow. So that's not even an option. Do you force their hand to to make them work again. Not in the best interest of the horse so you know it is a core problem But also going one step past your example. Is they scratch. You know if if they can't get that work in if they can't follow their pro their their schedule they may have to scratch and the horse doesn't make the race and then we gotta go away. Who knows how long to wait for another one so young. That point is bad for the owner. It's bad for the betting public because it's a shorter field for the race track because shorter feels don't generate as much handle it it. It's a whole trickle down effect and this is you know kind of something that a lotta people didn't even know what's going on myself included. I didn't know so many actually. How many tracks are instituting. These policies are so. I'm not going to get in that political Corner right. Now we we're doing our best to investigate survey find out exactly the ownership groups that are putting this mandate together but there are quite a few And that's again. It's it's actually been a concern before steve Greatly put up his op. Ed it's been a concern but again when you have A hall of fame trainer. Speak out on something like this. Then you again. Using a trickle down terminology then you start to see. Wait a minute. I i agree with that. And you you get a lot more hands raised and you get a lot more heads that pop up and say as you did. I didn't realize that was going on and again i. I've had owners friends of mine that called and said i didn't realize that was even an issue and it is But they're not gonna pinpoint the tracks and steven. I actually talked about that he was. We don't want to name tracks the end of the day. It's a policy taking care of the horses and we want everybody to take care of the horses. I and that's a lot of different firms. Yeah without naming names. There are several tracks instituting policy. Such as this. Yes okay all right. We have about four minutes left by the way visiting with eric. Camelback the ceo of the national hp Eric there was a second op. Ed that i want to talk about and i didn't tell you i was gonna ask you about this so if you're not prepared to talk about it let me know but it was called. Where are we going from here. And it was from leroy guests men who has been a guest on this program many times. He is the president and chairman of the board of the national. Hp pa what is that piece about an what does that focus Well thanks for for asking Ultimately i think everybody knows the situation that we're in right now. The continued struggle With the horse racing integrity and safety act Is it the thing to do Is it not the right thing to do Should there be a federal oversight for horse racing and medication and testing program But ultimately this this piece from leroy drew down on the fact that what is it that americans hate most about politics The fact that things get pushed through things get prioritized by elite and money and ultimately don't have to go through proper procedural protocol And so when you really look at haifa the legislation. i think. It's pretty obvious that it's been delayed so long. There's a tremendous amount of opposition for it not opposition for uniformity not even necessarily opposition for federal oversight. There is opposition for the way. This current bill is structured. So what happens money and power. Get to sneak it in and so what what's going to happen. This bill has never gone through a senate committee. This bill has never been debated on the senate floor. This bill has never had a senate vote of voice vote Which there were senators. Promised that that would happen. And what's going to happen now. It gets stuffed into a omnibus funding. Bill that ultimately it's an embarrassment in my opinion of american politics and how things can work and not go through the proper procedure. We're all about having things debated organization out there that is duly elected board members. You know they're not they're not chosen. They're not appointed. They're not giving ten to wear on their lapel. They are elected by the members period. And we want fair democratic debate and this isn't happening and this is what americans dislike most about politics in america and it's happening right in our industry if the majority speaks that should be the end of it and if and if we're not in the majority we understand that we live it on the a rci level all the time we make cases we present our case we present what we think is the facts if it's voted down. That's it we move on. This bill is not even getting that opportunity money and power pushing it through on something. That's tied to covid relief when americans are needing the most. Nobody's gonna willfully and certainly vote no against something. And that's what is happening with this bill. Most likely i. Where are we going from here by leroy. Gasman you can read that op ed. You can read the steve asmussen pieces well on the national. Hp a website that's national e. h. b. a. dot com Eric man appreciate the visit. Appreciate spelling those things out and Happy holidays merry christmas to you and the family in. We'll look forward to catching up against soon. My friend thank you mike. Happy holidays to you michelle and all your listeners and you know i didn't want to quickly say i enjoy listening to tim. I actually still have that video on. My phone of americans say phero coming down the lane and his description of the roar at belmont Even listen to it every once in a while just to give them a pick me up. There was something special. So i'm glad you mentioned that. Yeah special moment. indeed. Eric appreciate it but take care hockey. Certain all right when i come back. It's our monthly visit with the folks at four roses. Bourbon you'll hear from master distiller brent elliott and then a special christmas tree for everybody getting ready for santa's visit in just a few days. This is the form on h. r. n. edina spring stallion. Move on macho man. 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The segment includes our monthly visit with the folks at four roses. Bourbon lawrenceburg kentucky. Brent elliott is the master distiller of the year for two thousand nineteen. And this morning you get to know. Brent elliott since eighteen eighty eight four. Roses has been made with the same passion and handcrafted as only they can end this interview. Much like the iconic. Bourbon handcrafted by four roses. Today i have the privilege of visiting once again with brent elliott to is the master distiller and quality director with four roses. What do you remember about that day in. Two thousand five when you first walked through the doors here at for roses. That's actually pretty funny. Because when i started the week i started was the week of bourbon festival. And i don't know if you've ever been involved in that but it's basically like the whole industry we're still producing the background but everyone can stop. They're doing in terms. It's like the The week where everybody comes to kentucky just to to learn to celebrate bourbon so ruin a lot of work gets done. It's all about showcasing. Two guests what we do so like here. We we host events on site were going to bardstown to participate in events is just a lot of celebration and in promotional type stuff. So that was that was. The week started while. Could you imagine at that time that you'd be sitting here thirteen years later which let's face it. That's really not that long of a time and sitting here is the master distiller of four roses. No yeah i had no idea. I almost didn't take this job. Actually it was. I was in tennessee. I just bought a house just gotten married and had a job had a job and we came up. We took a tour of woodford reserve. Words up here visit family. When weekend and i'd grown up kentucky. I went to school. Uk so this has always been home. But i've been living down there for about seven years. And i thought you know i bet. I bet. This industry needs chemists. At the something i could do. Which is my background. And actually that very weakened. I got home sunday night. Got online a found this job posted and went back and forth came up interviewed off the job and i couldn't decide whether to take it or not. This two thousand. Five this before the resurgence in the popularity of The only reason i was really interested in it was just because it was an industry. That being from kentucky was near and dear to my heart would it was interesting and just sounded like something. I could a job that i could enjoy on many levels. Not just a paycheck with some of that could really get passionate about. Were you a bourbon drinker. At that time yes you are. But i'd first time. I tried four. Roses was on my way. Or i came up for the interview the night before. And on the way you can only get in kentucky at the time. I bought a bottle on the way to the hotel. Four and try to that night the night before interview for the first time and that was probably as much a factor in my decision to take this job as anything just fell in love with the bourbon again this before the boom and bourbon. But i knew that there was a fantastic product and as a company that we do well. Because we're just now starting to come back to the united states and which we have but never imagined it would be like this and i certainly never imagined that i'd be the master distiller actually two thousand fifteen. When i took over so ten short years after that had no idea any took over for a gentleman by the name of jim rutledge. Who was the master. Distiller here for roses. Tell me about working with jim and learning from him. Yeah he's if you know anything about bourbon you know. Jim rutledge name an absolute on in industry. A probably more passion and dedication than anyone. I've met in the industry. It was just that was an honor to work with him for the ten years that i got to. I was probably the most important thing. I learned from him which i learned so much. It's hard to really pinpoint anything. But without getting technical and boring for the most important thing i learned was just how he kind of what i touched on earlier with. You're dealing with consumers and people are curious about the bourbon industry and he would take all the time the world to answer you know group to people he bumped into them. You know on the grounds maybe two guests walking around. It could spend hours just answering their questions. And i think it's part of the same thing. He had that passion that love still bound for the for the brand for the industry. And i can just see how important that was to guests from the outside looking sink him interact with with the consumer so it was just something to behold netease. I've always remembered that and always will give favorite flavor. I get asked that a lot. And you know. At times. I might think i do. And then it'll change the following week so it's hard to say it's i can't even tell you which of the are three center. Products is my favorite it. It's almost it could change by season by time of day. It it because they're all different. It's just different flavor for different occasions when you think about all the things. You've accomplished here in thirteen years you've been here in in working as the master distiller since two thousand fifteen. What are you most proud of him right now. Probably just because we're growing so quickly we're expanding your in the middle of our capacity. Just added a new bottling facility. We've just about anything. You look at anywhere in. Our process has changed dramatically in the last not just three years but last twelve years and probably the biggest challenge for me this entire time. They've been here in particular. My in my role of director of quality is maintained consistency. Making sure that what's coming out of the still or out of the barrel or big put into the bottle that it is always consistent and it has that same characteristic that has has gotten us to where we are. Today that has put four roses on the map. I think that's an. I kind of feel like stewart of that. That legacy maybe some people. I say you know what he you do. How do you wanna make your mark. I don't even consider that you know. Maybe someday i'm sure that you know. I want to experiment just as anyone would other people around here feel the same way you will branch out. Try something different some point but right now. I think what's most important what i'm most proud of is maintaining the brand that so many others have worked to build up to get us to where we are now. Well as you said earlier if you know bourbon you know the name. Jim rutledge and i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that someday when people talk about bourbon they're gonna know the name. Brent elliott is well so brent. 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TimeformUS Pacecast - Episode 63 - May 26, 2020

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TimeformUS Pacecast - Episode 63 - May 26, 2020

"Hi Everyone Welcome to the May Twenty six edition of time formulas pace cast on David Arrigoni. I'll be joined very shortly by my co host. Preg- dull cousy. This week on the PODCAST GONNA be recapping. Some racist from Santa Anita and Churchill downs This week we actually had some top courses in the country in action at both of those venues a couple of grade one races that were run at Santa Anita those being on turf the shoemaker mile and the gamely stakes and Churchill downs. We had some pretty popular horses return and some minor stakes races The Matt Win. What with Max field coming back. He was one of the top two year olds of last year and also a window sale and Dunbar owed returned to win some races for the older horses on the dirt. So we'll recap all of that along with some allowance and made races. That were pretty noteworthy last week. And we'RE GONNA get to all of it. Craig how're you doing? How did this a three day weekend treat? You treated me about the same. I hardly even though what they it is anymore. Giving stated thing so wasn't really much different than than Wednesday other than we had more racing. It was nice to see you think we had eight or nine tracks on the menu on Saturday. So that was a pleasant change. Yeah for sure it's great to have Some of these major tracks running again this week and it felt like we actually had a lot of racist to cover in terms of top horses. That were in action. So glad that we actually have a lot to recap this week is it. Feels like we're started getting back into the swing things with racing around the country and we're going to kick things off at Santa Anita actually just going back to yesterday's card because we're recording this on Tuesday may ransom of those grade. One races on Monday this week. Memorial Day and the big race was the shoemaker mile with a couple Chad Brown horses in the Mix River Riverboat. Who had come off a couple of stakes? Wins out there in California stepping back up to the grade one level but it was The other Chad Brown horse raging bull. Who got the job done here? I think the story of this race though is just the supersonic early pace and just the perfect ride that raging bull got from drawers. Reo Yeah he sure did. The figure didn't come back great for this race for grade. One Raging Bill Bull ran a one twenty two. But I'm not gonNA put a whole out of stock in that because there was a whole whack going on in this race Trouble wise. The pace was super fast. As you mentioned a good race I think it was nice to see raging bull. Get that grade one win. He hadn't had one since back as a three year. Old Last year somehow for horses talented sent me wasn't able to notch a win. But I do think he's going to be one of the stronger horses in the division The runner up next shares. I thought rang great. He he was one of the victim or of wills bad start at the beginning where he basically took out two were two or three horses inside of them with without parole. Was bottled up back in third so as definitive as the race look at and I do think raging bull ran very well. There were some others talk about in here and I do think that given better trips the figure for this race could have been higher than that. Luli one twenty two for a great one yeah. I'm not sure what to make of the the trips that were in behind him. I I mean I feel like raging bull was winning this race regardless I mean the margin at the end was two and a quarter legs. And that's that's significant for a turf race going a mile and a raging bull for closer like him to just completely taken the race over by the time they reached the eighth. Paul I mean that just speaks to the fact that I mean he was really moving down the center of the track as they came into the stretch and he won basically geared down at the end. Not Saying that he would have won by more of run faster. That's not what I'm suggesting. Just the other who had trouble. Did they have two and a half lengths of trouble? I'm not really sure about that. And the horses you mentioned next shares. I mean yes next year has got slammed at the start by war of will but I also think nick shares was going to be where he was in the early going regardless because he is just a deep closing guide horse that sometimes does lose contact with the fields in the early going of his races without parole though. Is the voice really have to discuss? That might have been best in this race. I saw some people making the case for that. I thought that he was a little bit closer to the pace that I would have expected i. He was actually basically just right in line behind. War will moving down the backstretch on the inside about six or seven place early but he was only about three or four lengths from the lead given how fast they're moving up front. I think that was a bit closer than some people would have expected to see him and I read. Rt is he tried to do the right thing by saving ground around both turns and sometimes it works out for you sometimes. It doesn't he just got unlucky in the stretch. He came out to search for room alter course multiple times he just ended up getting through to late and you could see when he finally did find some daylight he. This did have run left Given how impressive raging bull was. I don't know if he would have won But he definitely was the second best horse at the. Very least I would say that. I think one thing I do remember talking about. Last year was raging bull and thinking that a mile would be as best distance. He did get back to that towards the end of the year ran whale after. They've random longer but I would think this year he's probably gonNA stick to that. It really seems to be right in his wheelhouse. Yeah I do think this race moving forward while we're talking about all closers rounded out the TRIFECTA. Here it would be a race right. Want to give a second. Look to some Deborah close to the pace when they come back out of here. I Mean River Boyne actually ran really well considering that he was probably much closer the pace than I think most people would have assumed he was just about a length or too off that pace down the backstretch. The same goes for war of will who I would have liked to see out in the clear in this race but he ended up getting slotted in behind some horses early and again he was close to the pace so I get both of them. Another shot moving forward. Yeah I have no problem with that and and I will mention. The fractions are all coded and read the pace figures early. Were in the high one forty so it was definitely a hot basin. I agree with you about river. Boyne I thought he actually ran ran. Pretty Darn well given outside post and being up close to the base and it is a rates where I think you WanNa look at trips but you also want to look at the pace in. You can probably find some bets coming out of this when the that might be overlooked the other grade. One event on that Memorial Day card was the gamely stakes. It was the finale at Santa Anita yesterday for the Phillies and mirrors going a mile and an eighth on the turf and while this was a grade one race in really had more of a grade to feel to it And maybe even weaker than that. Especially when you consider that the Chad Brown horse that really. Everybody ended up betting in this race at twelve Came over with some credentials from France. She just proved to be a total bust She just was never involved in the race at any point. Didn't have much of a closing kick. So she was a non factor. And you were really just left with those familiar faces that we've been seeing in California and these grade three and grade two races. It was keeper of the stars. Who pulled off that big upset last time and the Buena Vista? She came right back at a mile and an eighth and did it again. Yes she did in. You're totally right this race. Got One fifteen which is more grey to maybe even great three type figure but you know it's a great one On paper so that's what she's going to get credit for. We've talked about the California Turf Division being a little bit below the east coast or sometimes even a lap below and I think that was the case here in each. Wawa is a good point in that not was bet down so heavily. I think people were just looking for anybody. That was a true grade. One Mayor Philly or Mirta to win but she had nothing edges said she back early he kind of made a little bit of a run but never even reached contention and You know I have no problem. I kinda did a double take when I saw what the figure came back but the track was really consistent on the day it fits with the all the other horses that were tucked in behind a yet horses coming out of weaker races to to run welwyn in a grade one so I think that pretty much says it all about the status of this race. I if these sources were to ship out and go somewhere else and in face real one competition. I wouldn't be very optimistic. Yeah Keeper of the Star. She's a cool horse. It's nice that are connections. Have really figured her out recently. Seems like putting her out in the clear not putting her behind. Horses has really been the key to her success. Because she's gotten that same kind of trip and her last two victories and she responded well But I do think that if she steps up against legitimate grade one horse especially if Chad Brown sends his as string out to California. Because I'm not even sure the beautiful lover and a twelve would be considered his beast She could be in trouble because this was not a fast race as you said but a raise the did go pretty fast as we saw earlier in the week on Saturday was the Daytona for the older colts and Geldings sprinting on the Turk going five and a half furlongs. We talked about this on the time. Formulas forecast week that this looked like a pretty competitive field despite only drawing seven runners and it really turned out that way as the favorites. Battled it out but there was also a log shop in the mix really mixed things up coming to the wire here. Wild Man Jack Did. Get up to win but sparky. Ville gave the entire field of scare. He did it seventy two one. And he actually got the highest figure in the race setting part of it being part of setting that really fast pace early The the page figure after the opening quarter mile was a one fifty for the Reysen. He was up there fighting for the lead with Sistrin who was was one of the favorites in here and wild up kind of backing out. I'll be it with did have a little bit of trouble but I don't think there's much doubt sparky Ville was the better horse that day over him and while Man Jack He ran well. I would say. He took advantage of that harder hot early pace but it's not like he was five months behind. I mean he was sitting length or too off at most in which disabled war where the horses down late in he He kinda backed up that for me showed in Dubai and you know. I think he's right up there with the best turf sprinters in the country given these last two efforts. We've seen from him. Yeah that'd be that last performance Dubai. It's hard to know how to assess it because you're not really that familiar with the competition. He was facing. It probably wasn't up to this level of heat. Set a track record for six furlongs in that performance at one by a large margin. So it's possibly he's just turned a corner and he continued that momentum here. This is a really fast race as for the others. That finished behind him. We should mention that. Some horses did have trouble in the stretch of this race. Stubbins had to steady a little bit multiple cores. Sister got steadied out as well though it seemed like dramas fading by that point already. I think there's an argument that maybe stubbins could have won this race if Umberto reportedly had ever been able to get into the clear Towards the top of the stretch she just kind of had to alter course one too many times and They the stewards looked at this after the race. But I kind of agree with them. That the evidence was inconclusive. That you could have it on either of the first two finishers as well. I didn't have any problem with with no D. Q. Able to really tough when watching the replay three or four times. They kept showing it. I had no idea what I do. So I can't blame the stewards for not making Jane Tear. But as opposed to the routers I I think we saw some really good sprinters here and it's a strong division out West. The I duNno stubbins ship more than some of the others. Were the other day mostly out West so he might be a good barometer if he heads back east but just a really strong rates in my opinion and speaking of those southern California turf routers. We saw them in action a little bit later in that Saturday card and the Charles Wittingham stakes Grade to event going a mile quarter on the turf and it was united familiar. Face out in California just seems to be around to the finish and all of these races. He got the job done here. United never the kind of horse. It's GonNa win by a large margin but he just seems to have a nose for the Y. Or being right there at the end of his races he got a little bit lucky here though because he held on in a head Bob. That really went his way. He got a pretty lucky Bob there but I guess he would have won the race anyway. Even if you lost the Bob because the horse that he was in a photo finish with got disqualified and he ran them one. Nineteen time for him. Usb figure the same thing rang last time he had run away one eighteen when he was beaten the time before that. So just a really solid horse. I the one really big figure. Iran came when he was second in the Breeders Cup at those huge odds but again This was a great to. That's probably borderline for this figure rock emperor as you mentioned earlier on the the lake. Chad Brown sent maybe his second-string I I don't think you could put rock emperor any higher than his second string for the the males and he was right there in the nose. Bob Wit with United That's another one. I don't really have any problem with the DIJK you. I do think he'd caused some problems. I could seen this one go in either way so it's not one. I would lose any sleep over one way or the other. I mean. Obviously the abetted that way. Then you did. But it's a solid effort original air date okay. He ran one eighteen. I didn't see a whole lot of trips in here. Maybe desert stone dropped a little bit too far back but the pace wasn't all that hot so it just the no for me. Yeah I mean I think the issue is that It's inconsistency because I mean there was a little bit of bumping coming down the stretch but speaking from the perspective of somebody who watches a ton of replays watches a ton of head on replaced. Just as part of my day to day handicapping you see what in the stretch of this race in a lot of races and the stewards rarely take a look at that stuff. And I don't know if it's because this is a great stakes raised or just because one of them might have saw something this time that they decided to do something about it. But you'd like to see a bit more consistency with these calls. That's that's really all you have to say about it. The other thing. Since we're talking about stewards. We didn't mention that were of will was disqualified out a fifth in the race on Monday. And apparently that's a new thing in southern California. They're gonNA START DIJK you in horses at the start because that was to this weekend in for a long time. We've never seen that out there so at kind of an interesting thing to keep an eye on. Yeah it's surprising to me but people on different different views on this. My perspective is I'd rather see the stewards get involved less. Because I just think it's it doesn't help the handicappers and it's hard for a lot of people. Were getting into the game to follow really. What's going on here because it is confusing a lot of the time and and it's just not consistent will hopefully apply these same standards moving forward but that hasn't been the case up until this point the one of the race we're going to discuss from this last weekend. In California was the Monrovia. This was another five and a half furlong turf sprint for the phillies and mayors and Jolie Olympic who had actually finished second to keep the stars the game winner in that point of this. We just talked about a little bit. She turned back in distance here to the sprint distance. Said she just proved a little better than this field. Mike Smith Time. The ride perfectly Olek Sandra came at her late but she was just a little too far back early. Yeah I thought it was pretty impressive effort for her. She got a one twenty two time for speed figure which is best in this country so far it was one. I'm a little leery oven and I'm GonNa go back and take a look at it again but there was another five and am. Furlong race on the card. I went and timed them from video because of the disparity just to be sure and they both checked out just fine so as of now the figs look pretty legit. I thought all of the top four actually ran pretty good races. They all got one twenty or higher time for. Us speed figures and a strong group of Philly Amir Sprinters Yeah Jolie Olympics are really nice horse. Oleksander was probably a little bit affected by getting steadied out at the start. I mean she's a closer that was gonna be last anyway but you could even tell coming around the far turn Joel or a bit too far back that I think even he would have preferred because she had just too much ground big stretch. I still think Oleksander is one of the most exciting closers that we have in the game right now because when she gets into the clear in this stretch of one of these races she's just a rocket ship Sometimes there's just too much ground to be made up though. Yeah since. I'm curious what you think about. Joey Olympic stretching out again. They tried it last year. Didn't work out as well but I mean let's assume a lot more money going a mile or a mile and a sixteenth in there is going five and five and a half furlongs and it's not like. He was disgraced when she tried a mile. She was narrowly beaten by now grade. One winner so just curious what you think about her prospects. I mean frankly I would give it another shot at it. I mean I was way against her in that point of that just because she figured to be so over bet and she was but it was really just a value thing. She actually ran fine in that race. And let's keep in mind. She was second off off with just one five and a half furlong turf sprint. Under her belt at that point and it was a really easy victory for her that she had one our first start in North America. So maybe she just needed that. I start going to turns and I think she deserves another shot going that distance in the future. Yeah I think we're on the same pager. Let's move to Churchill downs where they ran plenty of stakes races this Saturday. We're going to discuss plenty of allowance races in Samedan events that took place that other days in the week Well let's begin with that Saturday card and I think the main attraction was the matt Wednesday because it's offering now fifty Derby qualifying points to the winner heading towards that September Kentucky. Derby and I would imagine we're going to see the winner of this race in the Kentucky Derby field as long as everybody stays sound over the next few months because Max field was the big favourite. Here he was a horse that had turned a lot of heads is a two year old. Well we hadn't run a particularly fast speed figure last year. I know he was one. That was visually impressive in his races. And I think he did exactly what you would want to see him do his three year. Debut Yeah I agree before I get too much into that race. I do WanNa talk about a little bit in the time for. Us Charts. I it surprised me when I went to look at him this morning and I saw we have a code in late blue as attract fever enclosures. I'm not saying that's true or not because I haven't really looked at closed. I do know most of the worst one from off the base but what surprised me as I have a coded In my the work that I do that if the track changes conditions during the card that I'm not going to give a bias reading and I was really surprised at the track state fast throughout the day because they had a couple of downpours in there. So that's what I'm going to have to back and reassess look at it and just see if I think it's worth keeping it in there because clearly all those races were not run over the same track. I could see at when I did. This did speed figures. There's definitely some different variants being used so it was. I was really surprised that the track condition never changed As for Mac `field in in the Matt Win. I don't think you could ask much more for him from him. He ran a one fifteen speed figure from us which was a nine point improvement over his too euro best. So I think that's exactly what you WANNA see. It shows whatever his ailments were I think he had a minor surgery that he's definitely over them. I doubt that he was fully cranked them. Ready to go for that reason. He will throw a good. He wore down New York traffic. Who We pretty much know what he is. At this point he actually came in as the fastest will worsen. I think he kind of legitimized. His last couple efforts in just a pretty good race. Saad Pneumatic Ryan. Okay I think as I suspected he's he's probably not a true triple crown race Kinda contender. But he's a solid enough three year. Old Yeah this is one of those situations where maybe if this was max fields final. Prep for the Kentucky Derby or whatever as pointing to We could knock the speed figure a little bit because some of the other three roles have vast up until this point But I thought for what it wise. This was what you wanted to see for Mac field because I mean not only. Was it just a starting point but also the pace of this race? It wasn't really fast. It was modern. I mean it wasn't a slow pace but it was moderate and the field was really bunch. Moving down the backstretch and hopefully are kind of had max field in traffic for most of the raise dot that he had significant trouble because he didn't But he only basically got out into clear at the quarter. Paul and Had just a about two furlongs to do any running. At the end of the reason he did what you would want to see him. Do He was the only horse to close in this race. Nobody else did much passing at all so I think he does deserve some extra credit for this victory even though he got the same time. Formula Speed figures traffic. Who was second. I think Max Field Ram a superior race. Yeah and I was also impressed with the way. pokka Lopez definitely kind of steered New York traffic out in the Max field trying to intimidate him. I assume it didn't bother him at all. He just kept going was really professional and went right owned by. Yeah with Paco. Lopez on board the front runner. I think you just have to kind of that's going to happen. And whatever race that you're in a another stakes race? The took place just before the Matt Win. On this Saturday Carta Churchill. Downs was the blame for the older horses. This one was going to be one turn mile and We saw some horses from last year's triple crown series actually around out the exact to hear when Dale and ever fast they were actually the second and third place finisher in last year's preakness behind war of will and they were the top finishers in this blame stakes Owen Dale to me. This is a good sign that he was able to get the victory here. Going a mile because We talked about it on the forecast last week that maybe this was going to be a bit too short for him. Maybe there wasn't enough pays in this race. He overcame all of that and got it done. Yeah he did and he was pretty far back early. I think he was actually vast early. And it's not. Like the peace with supersonic none of our fractions or coated red. I would say it was just the average at best almost even moderate so. I think a really have to be impressed with Owen. Dale we got a one nineteen time form. Us speed figure for the win. Which is what he ran one second last year. I think it was in the cork in his last start behind. Tom's Day. Talk in Ever fast in silver dust actually got a little bit better figures than he did So really for me. It was a fairly strong race. I I do think when. Deo has the most upside given it. He's proven he can run a little better going longer. But a good effort from those top three and even Mr Money improved over his rates. First time out this year looked to be getting back in the form and I'd even expect better from him next time out. Yeah Owen. Dale is a horse that I do think is just really. A to turn type. So it'll be interesting to see him. Stretch out from here. Moving forward and his four-year-old campaign because he probably can go as far as a mile and a quarter. He actually read deceptively well travers last year. So I'll be interested to see what he does. When he gets to go longer distances. I felt like the performances of the other prices in this race or a little disappointing. I mean I guess you could give Mr Money and other excuse but for me. He's had a few too many excuses at this point for his last three efforts where he's been off the board and all of them I thought Mr Money had a pretty good trip here. He was a bit wide on the on the turn of that he had a real shot at it at the top of the stretch and just didn't really quick in the way you would have wanted to see him Do or the way that he seemed to be able to do against Lesser Company last year and the other big disappointment in this race was global campaign. I think it turned out that the inside draw just really did this horse in. Because he wasn't quite quick enough to get forward coming out of the gate and he was just sort of inside getting shuffled back for the entire race. Not that he had you know one sick one single incident of severe trouble but it was just sort of the cumulative everything adding up. We're just never really being able to run through horses It just didn't work out for him so I I think global campaign maybe deserves another shot. Moving forward Mr Money. I kind of have seen enough at this point thing onto the Shawny for the fillies and Mares this one was actually going to turn into mile and a sixteenth a couple days before the blame and It really played out kind of as we figured out that it would Dunbar road was the big favourite in this race and she began her four-year-old campaign in the right kind of style. She got the job done here. The pace was moderate to probably slow. They really just kind of walked through the opening quarter mile and Dunbar road was pretty far off the pace at that point but she made a strong run around the far. Turn to get into contention and she was just a little classroom these horses yes she got a one eighteen time for us for the win. And I thought that the race was actually better than what the figure would indicate. I just said the pace was really slow particularly early. Then it picked up but what caught my eye. Was the eye catching move. She made it look like when Jose Ortiz decided that he had enough she just took him to the lead with you know he did her a little bit. But it's not like she was under a huge. You know all out drive to get there and she just pretty much inhaled the field around the turn. She didn't finish it off. You know it's like gee was just pulling away Secretary at like down the stretch but given the layoff. I don't think that's much of a concern i. I was impressed by that. Big Move in the figure. Silent Knight expect big things from her as she certainly agree one. You might have been. Yeah and you mentioned the track earlier in the day arming earlier. In the podcast about that light blue color coded rating but you see a performance like this and also the fact that vault closed into the slow pace it makes. You wonder maybe did horses coming from off. The pace have a slight advantage. I mean we'll talk about some other races on this card. A little bit later of it featured similar race flows. I kind of was on the fence. I thought it was maybe just circumstances that some horses that were much the best ended up coming from off the pace namely Dunbar road and Max Field but I could see the case that maybe the track was a little bit tilted towards the outside. That's fair the one of the worst. I do WANNA mention because I don't have a whole lot. Data Don borrowed. I thought this was a really solid return for them. Interested to see what she does later in her four-year-old campaign. I'm just kind of frustrated by the Ri- off God. I don't think all ammo ever going to be done borrowed in this race but as we talked about on the forecast last week this was a clear opportunity where there wasn't a whole lot of speed. She booked like the speed. She actually broke alertly this day and for whatever reason. Her connections decided to rate her. That's kind of amazing. I I don't think I would have taken any odds that behind chocolate kisses earlier. I do think that one brand pretty well mentioned in her first dirt start since last summer is she made a big jump up as a four year old so I was actually impressed with chocolate kisses. I thought she ran pretty well but he had the the ride on. All EMMETT is puzzling Who knows if it's a trainer given those instructions or the writer deciding it but she's done all her best running on or near the front and the change in tactics is questionable to say the least? Yeah I don't think he was going to win this race but for those of us that bed a little exactly with Dunbar road. I think we have a right to be frustrated about that. One there were a couple of turf stakes on Saturday for the three year olds one for the males for the females. The one for the colts and geldings was the world champion Jackson the last race on this card and this was one that was projected to feature a fast pace and a couple of did go out on the front end but they sort of snuck away from the field around the far turn and by the time they got to the top of the stretch. One of those speed horses mood like straight had just built up this insurmountable advantage and some of them. His competitors tried to close from the back of the pack but they couldn't make up that deficit the figures kind of tell the story even though they opened up that big gap on the field. It wasn't a particularly fast pace now. It was. We can't really talk about time very much when we compared to tappin and run earlier on the card because there was definitely saw a change in the track due to the rain the took voice in between so couldn't really compare times between the two in these races. Were basically right rated nights relation. But that's it. I don't have much much doubt that the peace figures are fairly accurate. For this reason you can of tell by the result of the horses. Up-close did find the worst. You tried to make run late. Just couldn't get there and if I was going to bet this raise coming back. I mean I might want to look at the two three finishers over the winter and I will mention the winner. Got a very good one fifteen time form. Us speed figure for the wind. But I do think he had the best of it by far on the trips. Yeah I mean the other species mansion he was more of a log shot and he really didn't finish anywhere of note So smooth straight did put him away. It wasn't just like the race was dominated by front runners. I do think smooth lakes rate might have been a horse that at least I feel like I underrated a little bit coming into this race because he did run well within the context of some faster pace than southern California and he had that. Goodwin the Cecil B Demille Mile last year and like you said the one fifteen time formula speed figure that he got for this race. That's legitimate for the three year old. I mean that's basically as fast as we saw a lot of the top three year olds running into the summer last year when we were talking about the twenty nineteen crop so I think this is a good sign for smooth straight and I don't think smooth like straight wants to go much farther than a mile that seems like his maximum distance but up to a mile he seems like a pretty purely pretty talented horse and pixel a like you said and feel past even they just had a bit too much to do and I do think they're both nice words but they're too deep closers. That are often at the mercy of the pace. The philly version of this race was the stakes. Which was the eighth race on this card and sharing last year's Breeder's Cup juvenile fillies turf winner? Came back here and got back to the winner's circle right away and her three-year-old debut Really her and her main rival alms to all the body in this race alms couldn't quite make that step up in class but sharing had no problem with it here. She got basically three wide trip all the way around the track and that really wasn't detrimental to her at all and she just basically time this perfectly to get up to win over the field. Yeah and I would say it wasn't detrimental tour chances of winning. I do think it had an effect on her speed figure. She only got a one. Oh three from us. As I said this was raided differently than the other states rates but there was other turf races on the card before that at least one that I remember so it wasn't a particularly fast race but I was actually pretty impressed with the comeback as you said. She was out three wide around the turn. She was in the clear without cover the whole way and she actually kind of got forced by the writer on alms I forget who it is. I might have been pocket Lopez as well. We talked about earlier. Who Kinda forced her hand and tried to make a move. She somehow wound up inside this sharing from the far outside post but kind of forced her into making a early move ensuring was able to keep that run go and she made a longer than than ideal sustained. Run through the lane so I think that they'd have an effect on the speed figure and I'm not going to knocker too much for just running a one. Oh three yeah. We'll make midstretch of this race was kind of waiting for sharing to draw by length or too because it looked like she had that kind of run in her at the top of the stretch. She got a bit leg at the end. But as you said I think the wide trip might have contributed to that and also it was her first. Start off ally. We could be able to bit forgiving. There's not a whole lot that I have to say about the also rans in this race. Maybe the one horse I would point out that ran well within the context of this race. Is the third place. Finisher pass the plate just because we didn't see a whole lot of horses coming from the back of the pack in here and she was one of the few that made a good run from towards the tail end of the field. But I thought sharing was just the best worsen here moving onto some allowance races from this past week at Churchill downs We'll actually begin just yesterday on that Memorial Day card early in the day going six furlongs the three year old filly frank re Franks rocket beat some horses at the allowance level and did so quite impressively. We already know that. She's a pretty fast and talented three-year-old filly. And she just add that reputation here with a big speed figure she did. She ran one. Nineteen time form. Usb fieger now is a race on paper. There was a lot of speed. We had our shown very clearly lead on the pace projector which is always that common for sprint race. But she was able even not was challenged a little bit. The first quarter was pretty slow. It was one oh nine on our pace figures but from there is when he decided to go Matt Garcia Pump Donor. A little bit and she pulled away through the stretch so she was much the best that she certainly estates. Carol Philly. And we're going to talk about ECO town here in a minute. The three-year-old ran little later on the car. T. Ran much faster than than he did on final time so just a good effort from her and I expect there back in some sprint stakes. Next time out now I do want to ask you about these beat figures a little bit. Because you've got these two races at six furlongs. Both allowance races for the three roles Franks rocket and Eco Town. We're GONNA talk about next. And there was a long weather delay at Churchill. Downs yesterday where they don't. I don't think got the rain that they were anticipating but they did get a little bit of rain. Before Eco towns raised there was a long delay between the two races. The one prior to that and ECO towns race. Did you feel like the track changed at all? Because we talk about ECO town. He ran a slower final time and given the field quality. You might have assumed you'd run faster as as faster faster than frank's rocket How did you feel about the track of Churchill? Yesterday it is actually one. I have down the review. I do have a plan to do that today. And just take a good look at it. It's always easier for me. To look wants to figures go through and I process them and they show up in our charts and it just kind of really jumps out at you and I do have some concerns that may be. The track changed It's a pretty close call and I didn't play it that way. Initially obviously I would. I did these pretty quickly because I wanted to get them done before our show today but I will review it not certainly post on twitter if I do make any changes because as you said it is possible. The track changed particularly the first couple. Look a little bit faster Racist to win three than the ones below with. But it's not a cut and dry situation where it's just obvious and clearly a change like I see on some other days now. The one thing I will say about Eco town who did run a thirteen time. Formula Speed figure six points lower than Frank's rock cat is that he's never the kind of course that is going to win by a large margin. Eco. Down just seems like the kind of horse that really likes to get into a fight. He did that with long weekend in that Bachelor stakes at Oaklawn Park. Last time the two of them posted some real really impressive speed figure six for a long distance and in this race it seemed like Ricardo Santana Road Eco. Town like he was just looking for a challenge. I mean they came to the top of the stretch and that horse digital ranged up outside of him like he was good. Take a really good shot at him in the late stages But it seemed like Ricardo Santana had saved just a little bit tougher echo down to kick away again at the end. Yeah he's certainly a game horse and this is a race which kind of goes the my point when they show it in the charts outside of Eco town who we have regressing off of that runner up last time you look at the figures for all the rest of the horses and they kind of line up perfectly. What what they've been running so it really is a tough call. I I agree with you on ECO. Town I. He's not a horse who who's going to draw away in win by six lengths in a race like that A. It looks like he likes the A- battle to the wire and he was able to get out on top in this one so I imagine he'll be back in stake Saxon pretty soon. Maybe even bounce open and soon nate. They have a good three-year-old spreads. So maybe you'll get to see him. They're also on that Monday. Carta Churchill downs other was a turf race for the older horses. An allowance event won by Ramsey's solution for Wesley Ward This is a pretty intriguing horse. I believe he's a four year old now. One that did not have a whole lot of turf experience coming into this race. I BELIEVE HIS ONE PRIOR TURF. Victory was just in a total bog and he won. That does a pretty uncompetitive race by about six lengths. He had run on synthetic since then and actually run against some pretty good horses. This was his turf starting a long time and it seemed like he definitely took to it. Yeah this was one. I was kind of iffy on whether I wanted to talk about this one on this show but he looks like a pretty intriguing horse. He's won his last two starts on the turf really easily. He had a nice win at turf way over the synthetic in the other when he was beaten by some get hot brown. Who's kind of a specialist on that Turf Way Park? I think they still have polly track there. So you know. This is an intriguing horse is. He's still lately raced a four year old. He got a one seventeen time form. Us speed figure for this win. It wasn't a super fast paced but sadly he stole the race that pays figures are just about the same as the final time figure so he looks like an intriguing horse to me. I was kind of interesting. He was able to clear to the lead from that far outside boasts without setting a fast paced. But once he did the race was pretty much over because he showed some real talent the rest of the way. Yeah I was watching the Fox sports coverage of this card yesterday. Churchill downs and there was some discussion after the race. About how this horse could've made the front end. I know one of the reference the time formulas pays projector and how this was worse. This was all the way back in. I think seventh race on the pace projector and it's just a situation. I think where we're always going to have difficulty rating horses like this number one because he was lightly raised and number two because his one prior turf race where he had been on the lead with just over that boggy course where. I'm sure that the fractions aren't totally reliable and even turf way park. I think you coated. In one of his reason races. There was a timing error so I think it's just a horse that's difficult to make it early pace reading for. Yeah it's matter of fact. All of his last three races feature Blue fractions at at one or more points of call. There was a timing error to back turf way the timer malfunctioned that the three quarter mile mark. Which is part of the the pace projector so you know. It's just something we tell people. The pace projector is more of a guideline. That should be a starting point for you. I don't as we both talked about. We don't always agree with the peace project there. It's an Algorithm. Net is pretty effective. But it's not going to be right in every case and this is a horse when you look through his. Bp's when you see all those blue fractions but also that he's been up close you know that he can probably go quicker if he needs to each never really add or been asked to. Yeah I like to say that the pace projector is a place for your conversation. About pace to begin and especially in turf route. Sometimes you want to look a little bit deeper than that because as we see a lot of these turf rats just because a horse goes to the front end of half mile goes on fifty seconds. That doesn't mean that the front runner can't run faster than fifty seconds to the half mile when he needs to just mean. That's how fast. He's running his prior races. So you might. WanNa do a little bit more handicapping if the pace projector and some of these turf routes Moving back to that Sunday car to Churchill downs. We saw a maiden victory by the Chad Brown runner per capita. This is a horse who actually crossed the wire. First and his previous started Gulfstream and legitimately got queued for that race but came back here and he did it Got Up to the victory. No deke this time and he actually earned a career best speed figure here beating up pretty game established who was second yeah. This was a Pretty strong race. It turned out I came back really fast on the clock. The figures good a one fifteen for the winner per capita fourteen for the runner up in just a second career start so it is one. I'll be watching for sure. We had the always reliable copper king back in third So he is a pretty good guide since he runs similar races almost every time. I pointed out on twitter. He's a horse. Who has run a nothing but maiden races and actually pay us the hundred thousand dollar mark in earnings on Sunday. So that that's quite a feat that you don't often see I mean we see maidens go in stakes races and hit the board and boost up their earnings. But you don't often see it and horses just running in maiden races so I'll be curious to see where per capita shows up next because he looks like a a real runner here and dimension. He was close to the pace. We do have all the fractions coded blue but he was still behind established the worst. The event eventually had the rundown so I would say he was the best horse that just as eve was the winner but he was able to overcome that. Besa against the horse he beaten. This is the looks of a really strong maiden race he. I would agree with that and per capita. He's the four year old and he's obviously had some issues because it took a while to get into the race is the first time a three year old and offer for a long time after a couple of starts last year but it Chad Brown can keep this. One sound agree with that. I think this is a horse. That has some talent. He also has an awesome pedigree. He's by TAP it. That makes him a full brother to Both anchor down in iron fist. Iron Fist was a millionaire anchor. Down was a graded stakes winner. Going mile he's also a half brother to Sweet Lulu who I believe one. The test stakes So his damn has been very productive. And there's definitely potential with his worst better when he moves up against winners as much as I say as much as I pumped up that maiden race I still would never back copper king again. Yeah I think it was a career busby figure for him but he seems to find a way to get beat. Most of the time sticking with the Chad Brown runners. We saw another dirt victory by Chad Brown on Saturday in a maiden race as the three year old filly. Altaf who had made one prior start on the turf switched services to the dirt here and looked like she should have been running on dirt all along because she just inhaled this field coming off the far turn in one off pretty impressively race. I actually missed it live I. I was out in the backyard. Cutting trees down as my wife posted on twitter but I did get back in for the later racist but when I came in I heard everybody talking how Chad Brown had an oak source and I was trying to figure out who it was. Then watch the reason. It was pretty obvious who they were talking about She got a one zero nine time form. Usb figure for the win which she'd still need to improve but that's obviously possible given this just their second start This card I will mention. It was a tough one for speed figures. Not just because of the rain later in the car but when I originally did these races of course I knew about the rain but the first couple races on the day just came up fast. I always try to group together as many races as as I possibly can to get the most accurate numbers but I put them in the charts and I just wasn't happy with him and I went back and rework them in it. It sure looked at me like the track changed after the second race it was much faster early on and because originally had this reset only like a one. Oh three or one four. I think it was all the horses That ran were regressing. Which is pretty rare for maiden so. I'm pretty happy when I went back and Redid. The card with with the work at the figures look much better throughout the card and this is one of them. I think that one. Oh nine is legit. Maybe the track played into it a little bit particularly when you see the runner up a first time starter. Came from way back as well to get second but it was a good effort from Outta and I imagine where she's going to be in stakes races soon as well. Yeah I think you do have to discuss the way. The track was playing on Friday and Saturday. Because we're going to discuss a Friday race right after this and I thought the track was pretty inside speed biased on the Friday card and once the day started on Saturday. It looks like the first three results were right along. That's ran because the first race. I know that a horse that was wide won it but he was a two five shot that had to work pretty hard and a horse that was sixty four to one that road the rail the the entire way almost pulled off a pretty shocking upset there and the next two races. I mean they were both one towards the front end. I should say the next race. The second race was one on the front end by a horse that you wouldn't have expected to make the lead. But he ran away from that field riding the rail the victory the entire way. And as you say the track a little bit slower after that and it seemed like suddenly closer has had maybe even a slight advantage after that and that continued on for the rest of the day so I wonder if the track all was running over with little different than we'll be on the first couple of races on the card but take nothing away from her performance here because she was impressive. She won by a large margin. And it's just going to be interesting to see what she does when she gets a real texted test against winners next time. Yeah totally agree. I think she's an exciting Philly for sure and speaking of that Friday race that I just alluded to There was an allowance race for the three the three year old fillies that was won by the Steve. Asked residents charge casual This was affiliate who broke her maiden in her debut. Oaklawn Park last time. She is a daughter of Steve. You since grade one winner lady tax so the pedigree is obviously there for to be a really nice one. I will say though that her trip just was absolutely perfect in this race because not only was she up close to a pretty slow pace in the early going but she was riding. That rail that I really did think was an advantage on the Friday card Things did not work out nearly as well for her main rival center. I'll who was the other one that took all the money in race. Yeah they were definitely a table with trips in this casual. Certainly got the best of that as you said she was riding Part OF A SLOW PACE. We have the the half mile in the five. Ace Co didn't blue and she wound up winning fairly easily in the end. She got a one. Oh seven time formula. Usb figure which was a off of her race last time first time out when she wanted her debut the one The final time was a one twelve. We knocked back a little bit because of the peace but a good effort I'm not sure how much you know. How good this source really is. I think I'd need to see more from her. I I am curious to think as center do you think we just put a complete line through that racer. The think we learned something about her here. I mean I don't know if we learned anything about her But she's definitely horse that I wanNA give another shot to. I don't know what kind of spots is going to show up next. You could be favored next time depending on the competition that she's facing But she is a kind of horse that there was an eight length gap from casual back to to rile in this central finished fifth. And I don't think that. There is nate length disparity in ability between casual rile. I'm not necessarily knocking casual because she won this race and did it You know she won by a length and a quarter but it was the kind of victory where you thought you know. Maybe if she had another challenge kicked on again Kind of like we saw from her and her debut. She's a horse who really ran to get that victory but center. I mean she was steadied. Coming out of the star some of it was her own doing because she broke slowly but from there she was just add a position for the entire raise Not only that but drivers have to take her wide around the far turn to try to make up some ground. That was not really wanted to be on Friday and really just nothing worked out for. Hopefully it's a good learning experience and moves forward off of this. That's not always a guarantee. But she's definitely a horse with more ability than she showed here. Let's finish things up. On the Thursday Carta Churchill downs We're just GONNA talk about a turf race from this day. Allowance Event won by Mr Zuma's. He's a horse. Who is taking probably a need a drop in class because he had faced some tough graded stakes horses in his three prior runs and was coming back to allowance company here and he got the job done. Though it was raised it was mostly dominated towards the front end. It was. I just want to point this rates out because he did get a nice time form. Us speed figure of one twenty two stakes quality number of Ritzy AP one twenty so it was a stronger than normal allowance race. I thought but as you point out it was a race dominated on the front end. Nobody really made up much grounded all in this field so strong effort I. I'm not sure I'd be ready to bet. Mr Do do iffy right back. In the states competition he was beaten pretty handily a couple times a in just great week grade threes at Gulfstream. But I mean this had to be encouraging Effort if you're the connections certainly a step in the right direction for him. Yeah he's a Nice Horse. He's certainly the barn of Mike Maker who can get them back to that top level But this was a greatest aches speaker. So it'll be interesting to see if he can translate that form into a tougher race the one of the Horse. I'd want to mention if here. I mean obviously I mean front run. The Fed was a disappointment in this race. I didn't think he had a major excuse of with a of their horse that I want to mention is the number four eve are. I'm not going to horses to watch segment this week. And if I did. I couldn't show this race due to the restricted access to those churchill. Downs replays But Eve are is a horse whose trip you might want to go back and watch because he was a little bit ranked. The entire way was just kind of wide and add a position for the entire race. It looked like Julian left. Rue was just kind of giving him a race in this country because this was his first start since coming up from South America. If you watch the South American races this is clearly a horse with a lot of ability. Maybe a mile short for him. Maybe he needs to be more forwardly placed. But he's one I would look for next time out. I do WANNA mention one more thing about Mr Zuma's it is interesting to note that he's a It was his third start to a Mike Maker barn. He is a guy who doesn't necessarily improve forces right away when he gets them. He kinda does it takes a little time with them and that is part of why. I wanted to talk about this Maybe he is a horse. Said he's just figured out in getting good at the right time because as I mentioned that that is a stakes quality speed figure that Iran. Now that that's a good point. Also he's a a newly turn. A relatively newly turned four year old. So these horses can always improve at this time in. Mike Maker is certainly the guy to do it on the turf. That's all the racing for this week. will be back later in this week on. Friday to do some handicapping us. We've been doing for the past few weeks. We've got some big races on the horizon. The return to racing in New York is right around the corner so definitely some exciting things coming up soon. Remember that you can always listen to both of these podcasts on Dear F. dot com spotify tunes youtube and soundcloud wherever ever get your podcasters make sure to subscribe to daily Racing Form Channel? Thanks for listening this Sika. We'll be back with the time formulas forecast on Friday.

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"Welcome to the fantasy football overtime podcast. I'm your host Jake's Isky with me as always are tyler. Hollerbach and Matt Win. Welcome to another mock draft just wanted to give a quick intro here. We knocked out a quick mock draft that we thought was interesting for everybody. We did a twelve team P. R. MOCK DRAFT ON ESPN. You think it turned out pretty good and hope you enjoy. All right. So just to recap before the starts were GonNa, be doing a full PTR mock draft mad is at the six spot. I am at the seven and Holler you're at the eight isn't that great? This is going to be intense all three of us back to back AC wrote no prisoners. Draft has started while it's apparently on ESPN I'll turn my sound down there. Yeah. Thanks. All right. Pick one off the board. No surprises there Christian McCaffrey are honestly I wasn't expecting anything else no, that's the obvious choice. What's not obvious who I'm going to get number six new hemans maybe in the sixties. Also there's one minute on the clock for each one of these picks. So we'll be moving pretty quickly here. Quick on your feet also have a defense and kicker you out I didn't set so dated, we can probably end this like around fourteen. Yeah. No, it's fun. All right. This guy I haven't even looked at defenses or kicker. So no be picking random people. But yeah, we got a QB two running backs to on receivers. Flex pretty standard stuff there. Pick to off the board SAQUON. Barkley and number three followed up quickly Alvin Kamara number four, Zeke Elliott. No surprises for the through the first four picks. No I was I thought I was getting Henry for sure at six Oh henry at five or you saw Derek Hendra. I'm on the clock it's six. I've been preaching go with running backs, but that's Michael Thomas is right there for you. Right now it's between Michael Thomas or Dalvand Cook. If I knew cook was going to play and there wasn't an issue at the holdout, I would go with Cook but I'm going to have to alter my strategy and take Michael Thomas. There, it is I wide receiver route. The Board Matt Takes Michael Thomas you are on the clock Jake I am, and here's what I'm thinking. We've been preaching running backs I'm going running back. I was against taking cook cooking the first, but it's a mock. Let's see what happens. Dalvand Cook. It is Ooh pressure on me at number eight. Yeah I think Cook Fonda seven is pretty great and he's only fall into seven right now. Right? Yeah. If he comes out tomorrow and says that he's Santa New contract and ready to go, he's going or I don't like I don't like picking at six even I got Michael Thomas and he's obviously the best wide receiver I worried. Because my next running back up is C. I could tell you guys you're picking after me you got to picture. My seven running back is Joe Mixon not Kenyan drake. Six I have some wide receivers definitely up there. So I am going to take Davante Adams foul against. Yeah richest. Held true or the word I would've taken cook if you didn't. Have Harry Jones hold up sorry about Aaron Jones at nine your little early. The one thing that we have preached consistently though is being adaptable in your drafts in going with the flow and that's kind of what we had to do. Julio next full disclosure Matt. If you'd take a ten delvin Cook I would have been working out of panicking to do that's that's kind of. Where I was at who my guy goes, he doesn't hold is go Kenya Eleven mixing twelve. I don't know if we mentioned this but Julio Jones pick ten where going I mean that that's what happened in ours like that's it's a good spot for Jones. I think like me and Madison being some spicy spots here Josh Jacobs just went off and a Mile Sanders here come. Running backs going early, two picks until you're up, tyler, what do you think? Yeah where's your head? It's gotta be running back. It's gotTa Be Austin Eh cler he's in Matera three range Julio's gone well, another blessing in disguise Terry Hill, just went off the board. So Yup Callo who've kill end Kelsey. Still. There you lucked out I did it's hundred percent gotta be at clear. Just going to double check here. Yeah. I think there's a clear line here between Ecuador and Chubb I think an even bigger line here between Godwin and Hopkins and Exeter especially already have Davante Adams. Yeah. So we are taking Austin Eh cler analysis fire Matt is panicking I. Know What? He wants me to do but I know what I'm doing and I'm going Nick Job Chris Carson no I'm going to jump I talked about it in our other mock I wanted job in the first he failed to me in a second at a no doubt pick who's your best running back available here my best running back available is currently Clyde Edwards Layer. I know you're not comfortable with that big. I'm not comfortable. I take early dude, take early otherwise Godwin just played no running back strategy to work for somebody you gotTA show us one on one scenario of no running back I mean I'm not going wide receiver I will not under any circumstances Patty Mahomes Carson C. H. and girly I really really like early this year it's early and I don't like him being rb one but I went with early there it is Todd Gurley. You feel choice. Best Tracy you've ever made on your C. H.. I've missed the running back. I've wanted by one pick both ways I thought I was going to get derrick. Henry and shove and I missed him that hurts there's no way helpless fallen deal with me the next went. And Godwin Pretty Standard after that. Yeah. Pregnancy a pretty big wide receiver run here on that's looking at the quick draft board. That's the best available for the next seven picks. I'm sure there's going to be a lot going here and I have lenny as my best running back here and we know Matt's not GonNa Take Them Jake Stock and take him I'll gobble up at three eight Tampa Bay running backs go back to back God WanNa to nine Evans at two ten they're playing around. And No, they switch positions, oh sorry wide receiver my there goes Lamar at two twelve rape before Him Kenny G. who does play wide receiver. I will tell you this. So if C. H. Makes his way back, probably will take him here. You've these more goal is So starting out the third round goes kiddle at three one and then Dj more at three to I'm sure all three of us were kind of open DJ either Patrick Mahomes to get drafted. So I don't have to make that choice whole you're going to be looking at them right here. Want him to go. Yeah I. Know He's coming up there goes the allaire takes that decision out for. Off The board goes Juju you're looking at Chris Carson and Mahomes is your next album that's all under percents Robinson there. must been listening to the hot takes up. Man I'm either yeah, I'm either looking at Carson or mahomes please take mahomes sust don't make me never hear the end of it but you're getting them in the third I know in the middle I'll give mad props for getting mahomes in the third I. Don't I don't want him though. Lennie. Lennie. That's my best running back. Made I mean it's it's not the best. Either there Chris Connor Gordon Carson Higher. But yeah, I'm not on a train. That's fine. Everything I'm going again everything I always preach here it is mos- Holmes Fan Boys on the clock twenty seconds. He just doesn't. He would draft us in any Li absolutely if we weren't, he just doesn't want to. MAHOMES hands down. But since we're sitting here and he has to admit to it, he's debating it there it is folks Patrick Mahomes. Wow I have Patrick Mahomes Todd Gurley, and Michael. Thomas and he just grimaced saying that out loud I know it's not what I planned at all but you gotta take the best player. I guys this is the benefit of going running back early. Now you can take Allen, Robinson yeah, I have delvin Cook and. Nick Chubb. If Cook is there, you know to start the season I have to rb ones and I get a wide receiver one and Allen. Robinson love it. I was definitely going to go a second wide receiver there as well. If it came back to me running backs on the Board Carson David, Johnson Lab Bell Melvin Gordon Wu easy answer for you Bel-, Yeah I see you going La Belle here, I don't think. So that's the best. Try to wait till. I was thinking is I have I was thinking reach for James Conner here or take like Amari Cooper as my wide receiver to which I don't mind doing. That's do I think in that scenario if you're thinking wide receiver or James Connor thank you made the right decision. I do think conor will fall to you the next pick for sure. For Sure That's the logic I would have i. don't think as many people as high as me and Matt are at least public. Yeah. I, don't think so either. So after three rounds, Matt Has Mahomes, girly Michael Thomas Jake Has Delvin Cook Nick Saban Alan? Robinson Tyler has Austin ECKERD Davante Adams and Amari Cooper. Not the biggest fan of team. I'm not the big like I love the players on my team obviously Patrick Mahomes in Michael Thomas or studs. But I'm a little worried about what the next couple of rounds are going to look like Carson theline just went off the board. So to recap here, we'll go round three KITTLE DJ more. Clyde Layer Juju four net and then Mahomes to Matt Allen Robinson to me in Cooper to tyler followed up by Carson Feeling Beckham and now Kelvin Ridley round out the third. I'll pick twelve went ridley woods at the turn apparently doesn't want me to have any wide receivers All Right Tyler, you'll be the next one of us up. Here. Zach urged just went off the boy was kind of all day. Don't look Tyler's deep in thought over there. He's lacking James Connor. Now, he's already Q in them up ready to go I mean everybody else? Bad Juju. Juju gone oh I want everybody that bad Juju. Connor gets picked all there's David Johnson. Love Bell is still there Taylor. Why haven't you picked him good Melvin Gordon Elvin Gordon goes yeah I don't know if I have much debate here connor is my best Acre Guy. We've been talking about him all pretty much almost twenty episodes whenever we can fit in Jim Aj. Brown is my next best wide receiver on the board definitely lock it in James Connor R B two I like it squad is Coming along there it is, and again, this is why you go on running back is so good looking at Aj Brown Cooper, Cup Tyler Lockett here, and this is a very easy decision for me actually comes down to players for you lock in home I'm going Aj Brown wow, that's a better pick that is your pick gotta go with your rankings agent Brown tire and lock them both, but I was easy. Run of wide receivers here not for me I need a running back you think and scrolls. Girls? Taylor. Is Not GonNa make it to you. I'm looking at David Montgomery. Kareem Hunt I like David Montgomery and if I want him, this is where I'm going to have to take them I can get cream hot on the way back. If I decide I want them you have you're not going to get one running on that. Now right I'm GonNa David Montgomery. Is a guy that is going to get a lot of volume like he had two hundred over two hundred and forty touches as a rookie, and they don't have anybody else except for to recall or Tariq Cohen, and he's not going to get any other the running work. So I like Montgomery I love it. It's. High, floor yeah exactly what I need right now you absolutely Robert Woods and Cooper Cup went seven picks part you guys how do you feel about that with woods going before i? Up. Last year it was like you're crazy if you thought woods overcut, but that's that's how it's been. This year's woods is gone before him with cooks out I think it benefits woods more I would agree I also have woods ranked above cup now, and then love bell gets taken off the board four nine for love. Bell. That's pretty good value there. I'm not to voice my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Wow for me. That's a reach on Sutton rounding out the end of the fourth. We'd Keenan Illinois at four, ten, sutton it for eleven lock with the last pick in the fourth as long as I can get Jonathan Taylor or hunt Taylor just went off the board single Terry went off the board I am all in on getting Kareem Hunt here I need Kareem I'm up in three more picks its swift, and then hunt or the next two running backs. This is worthy draft actually starts to like for me start I think my first four picks are pretty easy I do not have. An easy decision at five we always say avoid the tight ends but Mark Andrews is up there he goes. Yeah he's gone longer than normal. So I'm definitely not taken a tight end goes to you I- Hilton Matt. You're on the clock I think homebody that knows me knows I love Kareem Hunt I just bought his autograph Jersey I got hanging up. It is on the wall. He's an absolute stud. If Chubb were to go down all of a sudden I have a top five running back and fantasy football. He is my third running back and I am standalone value in your flex her. Upside. So I already know where Jake's going here I don't know. I don't know if you do. Dj Shower one, hundred percent it's not one hundred percent I'm looking at wider see risk currently I'd do have Landry Charlie Parker and metcalf kind of the top guys off of bailable here I like to running back I was thinking going hunt but matt took him and I'm actually torn on what I WANNA do I know this is a really tough spot right here it wasn't honored percent. I am. I just want to say that it is not one hundred percent but I, did I even had 'em cluttered value above the rest of the ones there. Yeah. I was honestly and wait Oh. Wait till you pick. Tyler, what are you thinking here? I have Keenan Allen up a little bit on the players left is even left not now what a change your mind if I told you you got picked. Yeah. We grew. So that is between devante Parker and Marquees Hollywood Brown is Mark Ingram's my next running back up Jarvis Landry. Made Me Pick Jarvis Landry. Ran Time didn't you? Loops Jarvis Landry. For Tyler Hey. It could be worse for auto drafting. They're all right there five nine Dak thinks he's worth forty million press scouts I don't hate it and he's my qb three right now. Yeah. He's a good fantasy quarterback and he's got so many weapons but I don't know I don't know about him in real life with that forty Mil year on Oh I look at my roster. Nevada. Deck at quarterback over having a shark I would feel a lot less happy about my current team. So I'm GonNa wait on running on a quarterback I was terrified when I took mahomes and when I took Michael Thomas of what I was. GonNa get but what ended up happening around four and five I'm actually feeling a lot better. You get a set it and forget it a quarterback. You don't have to worry until Mahomes by week and you can just stream there will do whatever I got the best player in football. So yeah, it's a set it and forget it. All right. UH, round around five we'll just ignore that Communist de'andre served at five ten parker at five eleven and then metcalf at five twelve festival available players right now Tyler Boyd Aj Green you know they're going back to back. Yeah. That's according to ESPN or yourself yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You got boy green digs. Marquees Brown at running backs you got to Cohen Camakers, von Roggio, and Darryl Henderson, so you got you got the the handcuff backfield together in the next five year Oh. Darren. Waller goes tyler. You've got to like to see that absolutely know you're not high on him whatsoever. All right, Tyler, walk us through what you're thinking here. Are you considering tight end quarterback at this point you lock in wide receivers and running backs I mean you guys are picking ahead of me? No actually next. So it is on me I am hoping here to get actually Mark Ingram all he just went off the board God. This game yes say a player. You don't want right whoever you say gets picked. So I I just I have him at rb twenty, three Aj Green goes pick to. Pick three, I know you're eyeing up AJ green and now it comes down here for me. Michael Gallup went right before Tyler Tyler is on the clock. Let's take a look here. So really gone to my head is everybody knows I'm big on Jordan Howard but it's not that time right now he's weighed on they're not quite the time. Oh, no is most are still they're. Still. there. Started still on the board most is the other guy that I'm getting higher and higher on is Tarik Cohen I think he can be a season winner. I really think Chicago is GonNa be a little bit better this year but we're gonNA take a gamble as much as I don't like them. I like his value here is most art if most figures out the whole contracting with San, Fran that's a steal. But if he doesn't then if if most goes to any other team in the NFL, he's GonNa, lose value I like the pick hours debating there as well for me I'm. GonNa go with a DART throw I feel like, I have a pretty good upside and safe options here. So I'm GonNa Throw Cat of a Hail Mary could be league winner option. I don't think he's very safe but I'm with Markey's brow that was also in my head if I made it to my wide receivers he's my wide receiver four. So He's got the League winning upside him Lamar decided to click. So I'm on the clock now I am torn between Tyler Boyd Stefan Digs and Marvin Jones definitely going wide receiver here I have a two running that excuse me three running backs. And Wide Receiver so I'm either going boyd or digs here was going to be clocks running out turning red six seconds. I'm guessing buoyed I'm guessing that Oh draft I'm getting my merced Sheriff Stefan Digs I went with digs as my wide receiver to now I have not gotten digs in a single draft or mock draft that I've done this year yet until right there would you have taken digs or murky brown that would have been right in there too I like digs a little more than brown though I think they both represent the same thing I don't think either one of them will be. Very. Safe and I think they have both have higher upside. If Josh Allen can just figure out the deep ball, it'll be huge for digs but that's a big goes in based on name. All right. So let's recap our teams right now. So my team after six rounds as Patrick Mahomes Todd Gurley David Montgomery Kareem Hunt Michael Thomas and Stefan digs. Mine is awesome Ecuador James, Connor Rahim Mozart at running back and wide receivers, Davante Adams Amari Cooper and Jarvis Landry. Then I'm wrong with Devon, Cook Nick Chubb Ellen Robinson Aj Brown Dj Shark and Marquees Hollywood. Brown. Teams are getting a little bit better. And who's going off your jake es Keller Murray went right after Matt than. eshelman buoyed deshaun Watson and James White and to start off round seven we're looking at. Cookson. Cohen off the board disappointed that Cooks Matt you're going to be the next one of us on the clock. Here. At this point. So now I have a lot of options actually I got three running backs I got my quarterback and I got to receiver. So really the best available player is what I'm looking at here tyler be calling it now it's possible while Ronald Jones and deeming Williams and then higby read off the board. So Oh I don't know if I would have pulled the trigger, but he was definitely in the conversation I might make tyler cry here Jordan. Might all still early forum you got von and carry on, keep trying to talk me out of it acres. Out of him to pick ovens Jacob Dobbins is right there ten seconds it's going to be Jordan. Howard. Column on I purposely did not pick them last time thinking he would get back to me tyler is weeping over here. Before I'll take them GonNa finished top twenty four. Jake. What are we thinking here? You're on the clock I am on the clock. Realistically what I was thinking of this point is I wanted Ronald Jones or to re Cohen they both went off right before me. What's left at running back has acres, Vaughn Daryl Henderson, and carry on Johnson. So I'm not thinking running back here about your guy jk Dobbins thing it's a little early for him. If the computer will let me, you'll see pick there goes. Wow. Asan Yep he's my qb three at this point. So that's a good pick in the seventh round. thinking. Again this is a tier ranking thing. I have him in that second tier of quarterbacks and he was my highest ranked one yet so he lasted longer than he should have forced her very, very happy for that one I to improve satisfied with my team. So I am looking at best available for me that right now is Marvin Jones or will fuller I am going to go with something that I feel is more certain. So a higher floor with some big ceiling and taken the Martian Marvin Jones. I haven't heard that nickname before just made it a good aren't fair enough. You should tweet adamancy likes it. Now see you see what he thinks when you started talking I. Really Thought you were going to willful or when you said higher upset I was like Oh sure no get rid of will he's more consistent all garbage, but he does have some upset sure Ochola has the has the highest ceiling. There is right per game but not person because he can't play more than with get injured. All right. After my pick it went crowder at seems a lit- till early he is the safest jets player. Okay and then cam acres who might have though widest range of outcomes here could. A Stud in a steel at round seven but he could be real absolutely can use potential to be a three down back. It's just there's also potential that Henderson is gonNA play too. So we really don't know. Yeah and Malcolm. Brown. So we have no idea what this running back. Mark Brown no I have him he plays wide receiver. Right. So where's everyone's heads at right now tyler, what are you? What are you thinking here would coming back to me it's going to be best available. Again I'm probably leaning quarterback because I don't want to get stuck want that Tannahill. Yeah or like Brady Raise Stafford. Yeah. If you can land Brady Orion right here that's still pretty good value. So to round out to turn team twelve, took drill Henderson and carry on Johnson he's looking at that handcuffed potential at the running backs there and then Deebo Samuel it Eight two. So those buyer about halfway through the draft, how do you guys feel about your teams? I like it actually balanced really really like my team. I'll be honest with me starting running back in the first two rounds I thought I would have another one or two on my team at this point and I don't and I'm not actually upset I have a lot of good depth that wide receiver you got to be flexible with with how the draft plays out if you go in with just a set strategy. Pick of the draft right there Eban Ingram. The worst pick hasn't happened yet. He is getting to the top of the best available according to ESPN though I Darius Guide guys Yup. That will be the respect that you like to Darius guys yeah. Yeah. I know it's super grade came up here. So I have I definitely going quarterback here I'm looking at Josh Allen Matt Ryan probably between those two brady is way too risky who knows what's going to happen going to a brand new team looking Li- Kinda really wants that rushing upside because I feel my team is pretty safe right now but also that consistency is good well ach in the consistency of Matt Ryan and I think that's a picky had to make their Yup I was really hoping you weren't going say Josh Allen. Ready for it I I was not just for your own sake I was really hoping anyone go on but I'm glad you didn't. Pick. If you'd waited on Ryan, he for sure wasn't getting back to you and then when you get that string of quarterback again, then all of a sudden you're right back in that position we're in Marie ended up with Philip rivers and our last month. So you did exactly what you had to do their. Yes. You did JK Dobbins a does come back. I was really trying to talk me I'm. Really, hoping knowing Matt what are you thinking here? I am going between my fifth running back because I really liked Zach Moss here but I think it makes a lot more sense for me to secure wide receiver. There's a lotta good wide receivers on the board that I like Dion Johnson and I like Henry Rugs I like Darius Slayton. Kirsten Kirk. Deontay Johnson though I'm really really high on this year I think he has a lot of potential to break out with Big Ben. So I'm perfectly fine with him as my third wide receiver in this scenario. Yeah, just Dublin back I did pick Jacob Dobbins 'cause I already had to starting back and I think you know if Mark Ingram gets hurt Dobbins is phenomenal value there could be league winter so yeah. Little bit riskier pick their the rookie running backs taking them here isn't a big deal. It's taken them in the second round right Oh boy picks coming up fast and furious year after Matt Johnston. We had Willfuller and then the worst pick in the draft. Darius skies off the Board of Eight Nine Hunter Henry Rob Gronkowski, and Emmanuel Sanders to round out row eight Jake I. Want an honest answer. Don't be biased. Don't think you have to fit a narrative here. If it was fourteen th round dairy GEIS's on the board would you take him? Yeah I, take him at that point like. Yes, you would take them at the twelfth round. Eleventh Yeah would honestly it depends on who I'm looking forward so like. Let's say it's Michael Harder. DERAs guys. I'm probably taking me go hartman. Yeah. To give you an example like that's what I mean like the round isn't the biggest thing. It's like who else's there? I had Emmanuel Sanders come off Philip Lindsey and then Kevin Coleman. I was kinda hoping to get Kevin Coleman down here in later rounds just for kind of a little bit handcuff most her just because if some reason something happens to most I think Kevin Coleman is the best option there. Absolutely. So here's a good guys comparison. Would you take him over like a handcuff like Alexander Madison if you don't own cook like things like that like that's the Alexander Madison might be coming off the board and and my next pick go for it. We might just doesn't have any stand alone value which makes it tough. Right? That's the thing is like it's that that's where you start to like start to question Oh i WanNa Jack Ma. Oh. No Right. Before you saw that one hurts before matt goes Henry, Rugs Tom Brady, and then Zach Mark, Henry Road. The players like I had rugs and Moss and Mike you with three to go and they both got crossed off. So mad as on the clock. Ouch. Thinking you do have quarterback. Don't you I do who is that quarterback? You know who it is oh okay. You can say his name what are you thinking? Good without saying it. Yeah. Ten seconds. Goal. Of course, he's going for the stack. Wow. That's that's early. Isn't home nine hardman maybe early in the ninth or no, and it's around early. Yeah. But the guy like. Snagged right in front of me at this point, it's get your guy like don't worry about when they're going to go like get your guy. Around nine and there's a guy you really want that is going between rounds nine through eleven like you can justify taking him right? I just took Alexander Madison as the Delvin Cook owner you had to yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. He was not making it back to me so round nine I get my handcuff who could be a starter of cook decides to sit out. So I am on the clock I was thinking now him hinds but I'm GONNA go hot handcuff with upside there you go Latte Murray. So had I not been the Delvin Cook owner I would have taken Murray in my position but handcuffs with. standalone value is where does that? He has tr tremendous value? I almost took Madison just to put you in a tough spot I already have four running back. So I fully expected it, which is why Murray was second in My Queue Marlin Mac went right after Murray Gin looking at kind of a handcuff value maybe a couple weeks starter in the beginning of the season there. Let's recap our teams here. Quick again at running back I have often. James Connor, Rahim most and Latin, Murray at wide receiver I have Davante Adams Amari, Cooper Jarvis, Landry, and Marvin Jones with Matt Ryan at quarterback. My squad looks like Patrick Mahomes at quarterback Todd Gurley David Montgomery, Kareem Hunt, and Jordan Howard at running back Michael Thomas Stefan Digs Deontay Johnson and Michael Hartmann are my wide receivers unreal real quick to round. Out, round nine drew brees, Carson Wentz and Josh Allen. Little QB run. There was sterling shepherd and Kirk to start off around ten followed by Justin Jefferson little bit early there I think for him. But sure and then to round out my squad I have Wilson Cook Nick Allen Robinson Aj Brown and DJ circus starters with Markey's Hollywood Brown Jake, Dobbins and Madison on my bench. Are we feeling here boys? I'm feeling good. I love my squad. Like this, if I can I please have this team every league when are we going to go on tight end? Enron pretty soon. Yeah it's it's probably coming here Matt Stafford off the clock right in front you tyler, you're on the clock are you going to start the tight end run now? It's still way too early to many on there right now going through my head is Darius Slayton. I really liked here Lotte I think upside with the giants especially if Daniel. Jones does anything like Jake Kenneth Thinks Jerry Judy is here and then also somebody we don't talk a lot about is Robbie Anderson maybe here but I think I'm going to go with what I think is the highest upside out of them with Darius Layton Yeah. It's late in my queue as well. I like him you. You are on the clock what's going through your head here I am on the clock and I am also thinking upside here and I'm GonNa take what I think is the highest upside hime hines CD lamb sure your boy yup a big fantasy lamb was the you know all throughout the draft process. So Matt. What are you thinking? I'm looking at wide receiver. I'm probably GONNA go tight end next round there. So a lot of good ones also I'll. I'll be just fine waiting until the way back the him hines hines is still out there. I. Have a lot of running backs I might ask Judy it's either between Judy or hines right now for me, you have a lot of. Controversy in your head right now is just no I ended up going with Jerry Judy I think as a wide receiver to and Denver's offense. He's got a lot of potential Preston Williams John Brown, Robbie Anderson off the board golden. State as well and then Boston Scott to round out. ooh Jake's guy. I holy cow tight Enron tight end run had ended. Jin. Trout in her steered coke no fan. TJ Hopkinson and then Curtis Samuel Matt you're on the clock. I mean the tight ends are going tight ends are gone and there is a titan. No, they're not. They're about to be gone though I'm going to lock up. Johnnu. I. Think Jake was going there. Would have wasn't coming back to me only because I know the people that I'm drafting with and I know. Would have picked him. So what that tells me now is that I can wait on tate tight in a little bit longer. So let's see what else we got looking at tight ends. It's also you're on the clock you finish this first. Twenty seconds left even yeah. You can go ahead and talk it through. That's fine. I'm slow decided when I wanna do what are you thinking I don't know I'm thinking more league winning potential and I say that because I'm taking Tony Pollard because of Zeke gets injured I, have a top ten rb right there. I'm sure the guy that has Zeke did not like that pick no, I'm sure he didn't something I'm thinking here is I hardly ever go to Cuba but I think Roger's value still here is pretty big in the same boat I, think there's still a lot. Of tight ends. I can go also looking at wide receivers trying to get some rookie love in pitman running backs are pretty much dried up I don't see a lot of upside their Sony still there, but we all know their Gibson. He means we're going to lock Pitman I like the possibilities here I like it as well. I'm sure Matt does too. I know it's one of his sleepers that he likes. Yeah. PITMAN's Stud. Don't forget you guys. They are going to make us traffic kicker in defense in this one. So we only have a few rounds left of actual. Just a heads up, don't forget that right after tyler took Pittman Desha Jackson Sony Michelle, the hairy off the board raider round out the picks and round twelve right looks like I am back on the clock here another tight end when Jack. Doyle not being on him. They're still three or four tight ends that I'm still big on probably be in order Koseki gutter jar win then hooper. So definitely thinking, it might be time to take one of them Rogers astill on the board here I. Think this is going to be a one quarterback for everybody here league. So this is probably more traditional what's going to happen in your league rogers projected one. Thirty eight is the rank on here and it's pick one, thirty, seven though I'm just GonNa lock up tight end I think is going to finish top twelve. It's now if in Koseki all those. MIAMI. Dolphins Twenty Twenty AFC east champion Miami Dolphins. Yes. All right. So Tyler went tight end that tells me you're safe. Keep wish on tight end. So I'M GONNA keep filling my wide receiver and running back position here. Again, I'm going to high upside Guy Matt's not GonNa like this pick either in Tonio Gibson I like it in terms of it's a good pick but don't like it in terms of you on your team. Yes well, that makes. Seven Times in college. That's fine. Washington. There's plenty of balls to go around. That makes my choice very, very easy. The number one running back on the Indianapolis. Two Twenty Twenty Nine Team Hines Matt Love It con- back to our hot takes episode. He doesn't actually think that but any rate no I don't actually think that but I think it's plausible. I can see how it would happen. Round out round twelve for us map holy comeback already on the clock drafting very quickly. Right now they'd probably auto take. No, we don't have to recap them at this point. Yeah. I'm looking you guys can recap if you won't let me see what I WanNa do right just real quick Anthony Miller Hunter Renfro. Rogers did go here at the end around Twelve Austin Hooper's when other tight enough the board and then Paris Campbell got our first defense off the board shout out to the auto-pay with the steelers Defense Daniel Jones Chris, Herndon, big, Ben, and Duke, and now Matt's on the clock man there's. Starting to get pretty thin out there I like rookie wide receivers I think Denzel mims is my best flyer at this point. So I went with Denzel mims. Yeah. You don't know what you're going to get there could be league winning upside it could be nothing but at this point who cares you're going to drop them if they stink anyway. Waiver wire as a wide receiver six that's it's a risk you can take, and that's exactly what I'm thinking with this pick as well. I'm going Sammy Watkins. He's still has talent. You might be the number two in Kansas City if he stinks I'll drop them in who cares imagine that hardman versus Watkin, right? Yeah Weird. Yeah. Weird that I got and. I'm on the board I'm pretty solid everywhere at this point, a normally would look for not really handcuff, but just like rb to for what am I running back so McFarland still on the board just Jackson still on the board could go something with some upside like Brandon I, you especially at the beginning but I don't see that really being that much upside with deebo out but I'M GONNA Take a little bit of a sleeper here a lot of fantasy communities thinking about it. I Have Matt Ryan as well. I'M GONNA go with Russel Gauge wide receiver three for the Falcons. He was very serviceable when both I mean Ridley miss some time and so did Julio Julio played but he was he was beat up but banged up for sure pigs gone quick again dede westbrook fitzgerald went. Off The board Tannahill run, you know Taylor's favorite late round quarterback. Yeah bills. D.. Four D. Barrington. Evans and our handcuff and then jared Goff with Holler back. You're on the board at this point probably GonNa go one of the Arbutus four my running back both of them still here McFarland. Jackson I think Jackson's going to have a better time seeing the field if something does happen to. Actor. So we are GONNA wrap up here Justin Jackson. That's a good pick to clear at this point. Yeah. I, like that as well protect your early investments for sure. Now I, waited on tight end this whole time. So I have to go tight end because the is GonNa make us pick kickers and defenses here here comes. Let me take a look see who Jay Stern Burger No. No. You're either gonNA take Godart Iran or Darwin your they're gonNA take. It was between got her in Darwin the Hallway. I would go on with Goddard just GonNa see the more safe flora thing. I have a bunch running backs and wide receivers with drafting Mahomes I'm not even taking a backup quarterback so it allows me to stack another position. I, normally don't take too tight ends but with the fact that I waited to get John New, I'm going to also take another tight end to try to pair up. And see if just one of them can pan out. So I am going with Blake Jar win as a backup tight end I. Hope you drop John Week Three I. Hope I. Don't. I would probably mean he got injured I don't know what else I would do that I was really hoping you wouldn't take God or Darwin the round before because I needed one of them. So I WANNA make sure one of them fell to me. All right. The best part of the draft yet kickers and defenses are no draft in weakened skip this part. Yeah. We'll call recap our squads here. So Tyler, what do you got for your team? So I am Looking at quarterback Matt Ryan with my entire running back squad, and we're looking at Austin editor James Connor Rahim Oester let Murray and Justin Jackson pretty solid one rb one rb too wide receiver. We have Davante Adams Amari Cooper I know we talked a lot of episodes about cooper if you can get your wide receiver to I'm a fan of it in my flak is also I'd Receiver Jarvis Landry Marvin Jones Junior Darius Slayton Michael Pittman Russell Gauge, and then tighten Mike Sackey. This is kind of like how I liked to draft a team. There's a pretty good floor starters with a lot of potential season-long ceilings on the bench jake I, like it. What's your team look like? So for me I, came out with delvin Cook Nick Chubb Jk Dobbins Alexander Madison Tony Pollard Antonio. Gibson. At running back. I love that mix of safe and then potential upside I wide receiver and up with Allen, Robinson AJ Brown Dj. Dark. Hollywood. Brown, and then CD lamb again I love that safe. But also upside qb Russell Wilson. What you're going to get with him. He's safe that probably the one of the safest quarterbacks there is too early for a quarterback. Nunu and DEL scattered as my tight end I like it I like your squad and I you did what you liked to do. You drafted a lot of players on crappy teams you got. A job shop on. Cleveland you got Robinson on Chicago you got AJ Brown on Tennessee like there are a playoff team but they don't score a lot of points and then you got charcoal on Jacksonville you did kind of what you preach I. Did I don't like the job I don't like running back on a crappy team because they're just not going to get the touches except for the fact that the Vikings head coach just went there. So I think that he's looking at. Three hundred touches your big on Stefanski going to Cleveland. My squad ended up as Patrick Mahomes. My running backs were Todd Gurley David Montgomery, Kareem Hunt Jordan Howard and nineteen times. My wide receivers were Michael Thomas Stefan Digs Deontay. Johnson McColl Hartman Jerry Judy, and Denzel mims. You can't tell I like rookie or second year third year wide receivers. My tight end was Johnny Smith and then I just took a kicker Justin Tucker took for me that'll work. Then you take a backup titan. Johnny Smith and Blake Darwin I like the Combo of getting both of those one of them should be good enough to start. That's the thing like if you waste early pick I'm I shouldn't say waste but it's almost waist. If you take a calcium killing the second round, don't go out and draft another tight end and rounds nine or ten like if you're committing to them being the guy and use later picks on another positions. But for me, I took a tight end in double digit rounds. So then it made sense for. Me To pair it with another one hoping that one of them will pan out I. Think we all have teams that kind of worked out for us to since we all like your team don't forget to like us on facebook at fantasy football overtime podcast on twitter at F- Ot podcast check us out. We got a whole bunch of content. We appreciate you listening. We love to be conversational on twitter. 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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 5/22/20--Jury/Weekend Preview

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 5/22/20--Jury/Weekend Preview

"Narrow maximum security has been defeated king for a day. This is the Jason Beam. Horseracing podcast brought to you by twin. Spires your daily home for Horse Racing News interviews wagering discussions and more. Here's your host Jason. Be Rabbe Good Friday morning. Y'All welcome into the Jason Horseracing. Podcast brought to you by twin spires. It's Friday may the twenty second and a happy to be with you here as we close out another week of programs. I said I was going to do the Saturday show tomorrow. I'm not I'm not I'm GonNa Take My holiday weekend and I'm going to take a holiday weekend so Sorry for those who look forward to that. I don't know how long I'll keep doing them. But we'll We'll try to squeeze in a couple more here before things get back to To ready but You know maybe what we'll try to do is to more regularly. Just add on a little more cabinet at the end via at the end of the show on Friday. So that's that and Excited welcome back the jury today. We got a really fun card. Churchill coming up on Saturday five stakes events Not like the most biggest prestigious graded races in in the world. But I mean right. Now they're just about as good as you're going to get in terms of grade three races with a lot of horses that are going to be competing at great ones in the coming months. Certainly the Matt Win of course now a prep for the Kentucky Derby so we will talk about all of those in more the jury guys where each GonNa talk about one of those Five races and I will talk about the other. Two after we're done with the jury we're actually GONNA start at at Santa Anita because the stakes double at the great race place. The Daytona on grass the Charlie Wittingham on grass won a sprint one eight mile and a quarter race and the Daytona drew field seven. And it's a lot of the kind of regular names you know stubbins and Straughn Texas Wedge was very good down at Gulfstream. Last time winning comes back to southern California The return of Wild Man Jack who was kind of becoming a pretty damn topnotch turf sprinter in southern California was Brent del Mar four times and ran huge all four times a couple of wins and they try. They went over to Dubai with the Horse. You remember Doug O'Neill kind of spend a set a whole string over there and they took home a win in a three hundred and fifty thousand dollar steak last time out at Beautiful May don race course. So Mike Smith in Wyoming jacket two-to-one I was kind of looking at this race hoping that it would kind of end up with a little bit of a pace battle on the front and I was really hoping that Stran- and Wild Man Jack maybe slug it out now Doug O'Neill has three runners in here. That was part of the reason I thought it. Might you know this was handicap in the trainer. A little bit because sister on you know his best is either right on the lead or just off it. I mean he's he's he did last time he did pick up some horses and was able to win from third but prior to that when he was dirt dirt especially it was gun gun gun so. I don't know if he can keep up with Wild Man Jack but Doug O'Neill has that good kind of Multiple entry where. He's got man Jack who looks like a speed or I mean there's really not a true true you know gun to the lead type in this race but Murad Khan likes to come from off of it. That's one of Doug's other under stubbins. Likes to come from way off of it. Who's Doug third runner and so I was hoping that this was a race. Where maybe those top two sisteron and wild man Jack kind of go goofy at each other? Because I think they're going to be the top ones in the bedding and Texas Wedge figures to be up there in the wagering as well and Texas wedges. He's to me. He's the scariest of the of the three favorites to try to beat. But I was kind lured towards going to Murad Khan or even Spark Ville down on the inside who was beaten two lengths last time to Stran- and was trying to rally from much further back and kind of made a nice little move between horses and I think. Save big on the rail and being able to save ground on this five and a half. Furlong turf. Course. If they do go crazy up front. I think that makes a difference. And you know just being able to kind of close in and save background instead of having a loop up three or four wide like some of might have to do and so. I thought a big price sparky Phil was kind of interesting. I like to Murad Khan last time and I thought he ran okay and willing to give him another shot of his price stays up at around ten to one but I think all the attention going to go to those three outside you know Texas Wedge was the one I had the least amount of questions about I mean. I know sister on went well last time and it seems like everything from John. Sadler Barn is running really really well. He's Positive Roi in two thousand twenty so far which is something for any trainer to be a positive. Roi from all starts. But Victor Espinoza on board so it just kind of hoping that this one collapsed a little bit. And maybe that's how you get a price into the race. Now the other feature at Santa Anita's the Charlie Wittingham and you know two hundred grand up for grabs mile and a quarter not classic race but certainly a prominent one. I think a longtime grade one in southern California and united is your favorite and and deserving favourite horses dance. Some pretty big dances. Second the Breeders Cup turf behind bricks and mortar beaten ahead beaten in the Hollywood turf company even money by Oscar Dominguez and then last time Came down the crown of the track to win the San Marcos Grey. To my thing with united is he makes a lot of sense. He's from speed figure standpoint faster most of these ones in here from the optics plot he. He's not in the is great of a situation. They seem to think that at a mile and a quarter. He's not nearly as good a finisher as possibly some of the others now you have to counteract that with the fact that he's closing and run pretty well at a mile and a half and then last time two mile and a quarter one so to me that the reason that I would try to go against some somebody and of course. Y'All I always want to go against favorites. I'm not GonNa you know you never gonNA play favorites but I don't think he's that far ahead of the other horses to warrant the sixty five price air was a big big winner last time with spoliation. He's back on board here rock. Emperor I mean. How many times have we seen these Chad Brown horses? Come from the East Coast to the West. Iran is listed deride and they move up because sometimes the coaster for better than the west coast surfers. I think this might be one of those instances and to me rock. Emperor is probably the Horse to beat in this one. And if he's a significantly higher price I mean the morning last six to five five. Two two five to two is a lot higher than Than Sixty five. So if there if that's where it's days than rock emperor to just become so much more interesting than united and you know as Cliche as it sounds and it is cliche to say. Oh you know you could win. Won't be surprised if he wins. And it's true. I mean that's that's the way you got to look at a lot of favorites. I mean there's favorites that you don't like but there's favorites that you wouldn't be shocked if they won there's some God. How did that thing win? I mean you know you can always. Cya failure would win. It's the favorite for reason but yes. I thought some fun little races at Santa Anita on Saturday as part of their feature carpet. I want to get to the jury so we can talk some Churchill. We'll talk about the three big stakes and more on the other side of this break. It is a Friday edition of the Jason Beam Horse Racing. 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To find out what offers are available to you all right back here on the Jason Horse Racing. Podcast brought to you by twin spires and we head under the twin spires to welcome in at. Roseau kicks off our jury every week. Eddie how are you doing well? Looking forward to kicking off the stakes schedule at Churchill. Speaking kicking things off buddy. Yeah big big day we're GonNa talk selected the Shawnee as your race of our segment. We'll talk about that in a moment. How the opening weekend go for you not too bad topic wise so from tout perspective pretty disappointing results. There were some horses. I gave a look to that. I went in a different direction. That could have made me a hero way. Drinking wise considering I was four for twenty two on top I. I was pretty pleased to get out of the weekend about even well. You've kind of been our defacto documentary of the experience of watching racing with no crowds. It's been kind of fun to follow on your social media's capturing the din or lack thereof of of Churchill right now and it's so funny because you know it's Kinda the same thing with like when I go down to call her. It's like there's really good racing going on and you're watching IT AND ON TV. It looks like great. Churchill racing. You just. It's when you pull back a little bit you see the dearth of people. Yeah and here is kind of interesting because obviously even when there's let's say ten thousand people governess which would be a great crowd almost anywhere else. There's three fourths of the place is still completely empty but but you notice it You know there's no cheering The the gate echoes even more when it opens so you know little things like batter or kind of constant reminders. Of what what? We're dealing with here. But I WANNA be I guess too optimistic or you know car car in front of the Horse so to speak but I mean my read is even as tracks more open if open tracks open. It seems like people are kind of in a in a pattern and a habit of of watching and interacting with racing so I can only hope it continues but is we're heading into our third month of this thing. I'm I'm pretty optimistic about what I've seen on social media and the numbers coming in hand wise the say maybe we we actually can keep some of these new fans will we shall find out it we we will. We're things open open even more with Nyerere coming online and the smaller trucks following suit. We kind of get closer to this You Know I. I don't want to say typical schedule but a typical menu day-to-day throughout the some That'll be the real test to see if the money gets divided up or you know. Through these new people gravitate toward the brands so to speak like Churchill Gulfstream Naira Cetera so keen to observe that but as of right. Now I'm I'm I mean you. You don't WanNa fuck your chest too much in racing no matter what. 'cause IT'S A humbling game but I have to say I think you know this. There's been some positives and and obviously with a terrible situation overall. Well Ed are r race for discussion is the seventh race on Saturday. It's shiny it's the older fillies and Mares and they're going Eight and a half which is the mile and a sixteenth so a little bit of a short run to that I turn and it's kind of that classic will look we're going to have a heavy heavy heavy favorite. Do you go forward. You go against because I think a lot of people are going to be looking at this race because it starts at late pick five. Yeah and that's why selected it Among the three that were among my options and I'm against You know she's a Julian Dunbar road. Both if not run this year and I see that as as a positive of for my top selection and I'm drawing a blank on which race it was but there was a race recently where one horse it had a race and there was another horse. Who is kind of more of a name who was coming off a layoff who was the favourite and and the the horse with the race under his or her belt was was just clearly ready for that race. Moore so and finite it was not that one but that's a good example so well yeah myself credit for that poll but yeah that as well and finite kind of went the other way too but you out the went right at the day it went right. That's right and hopefully have it the day it went right here with what ball? Who's the horse? I'm speaking of even with the two obvious favorites in here by road. And she's Julie. I'M NOT CONVINCED WE'RE GONNA hit ten to one on vault but that just looks like a you know such a typical prep and and I know they wanted to win that day. Two to one and there was some buzz that she was ready. But just looking back from the rail off the layoff for start with Cox I see a lot of reasons to give this one a Mulligan for that race and thinks she can improve second off. So we'll we'll see what I end up doing when the chips go in for the pick five but I mean Jeez potentially alone. A for me Just because I don't I don't know how much I wanNA triple the cost of my ticket by using the obvious to favorites. I do think they're dangerous. Oh I'm going to play with them. Why like prices elsewhere? But I'd love to get the third choice home in a race like this and be able to not worry about if I catch your favorite elsewhere. We have we have seen so far. It's obviously been a short couple of days but Chad. His his horses are taking a ton of money including that first or last week. But we're talking right after the ninth race on Thursday. He just had another one at six to five. Get be and You know they. He had a few down Florida throughout the pandemic. But I think a lot of his horses are going to be coming off of little breaks and it just seems like a lot of them are a little bit short right now. Now we're getting into the point where we are seeing a few horses that have had works at Churchill. So we'll definitely be paying attention to that is You know they actually raise here as well but you have great point and as you said. He's not just taking money here. They're I mean they're they're bent with both fists And I've been for and against varying degrees so hasn't exactly been gangbusters phone against him but I think we're at the point. Now where where? I want to see his horse win before I back. Certainly the favourite he were to come in with a horse. Who looks good at five or six to One? That's a different story. But based on what we've seen this meet Jason. Dump by road especially four to five morning line I have to. I have to take a stand against. Yeah I found myself liking and I think we kind of approach races a little bit the same way I mean we're wanting to be dissenting against the favourite whenever we can and you have a few reasons not to like Dunbar road. I mean she's she's never rented Churchill. She's obviously coming off layoffs coming off clearly her her worst effort although it was obviously against very very tough horses and so. There's just a lot of things that are a little question mark since I made fun of myself earlier because I use that cliche. We'll be surprised if he wins. A handicapper tout says when they go against a favorite and it's just basically their way to say look. I know I'm trying to but neither of us will be surprised if she wins but at four to five. Are you gonNA play comebacker layoffs at forty five? And are they GONNA win every other time or more? I don't think they are and I want to ask about. She's Julie because I know aspirin didn't have a very good first weekend. Sources seem to have run a little bit better at least on the Thursday card two year old. That ran a good second. She's a Julie Loves Churchill. Man. She's run some big races there but that was the. It's been awhile since those yet. Has I think she's more dangerous than done by road. Which is why I could see. Maybe doubling the cost of my ticket and using her almost equal strength with fall And again that that's going to be dependent on some spots island elsewhere but I definitely like better than done by road. And the reason is she does figure To be a case presence here now vault does have some pace ratings. That are even better than she's Julie. So that's one of the reasons I liked ball even more is I. Think what the race under our belt especially. She can just pretty much breakdown cheese at Julie's throat latch and then go when Joel gives the signal But off the layoff if she's a Julie's fresh in at this amount of sixteenth distance versus maybe some more ground Gates wires and out of the question for me which is a duly. Should we mention the The Dallas Stuart Entry Images? Because I mean you know this horse. That didn't run. Great last time ALFLEX to sneak in and spoil the exotics every so often and this is When with Steve asmussen actually had shown Johnson pace and last time was just a totally a typical effort? I mean was yeah. She was overmatched against that group in the Apple Blossom But you know she just wasn't even in it so hard to think that took much out of her One thing that's interesting to note for me with this race it is it is it equal rate weights. And as I was looking the first time through I wasn't really paying attention and didn't even think that they would be equal weights and I thought man if done by road. S to give wait. I'm really against. They all are all at once. Twenty you know if I was maybe getting away break. This could be a different conversation. But there's actually Another price for better. Which is flour party? Oh the big the big price. The big price. No I thought about that doesn't strike me as a guy throws a horse into a race to be thirty. Two one exactly. This horses is in no less. Yeah but I mean this has been trying stakes company and getting clobbered so I mean the price is supposed to be thirty two one right right. Yeah but the speed ratings are somewhat there in the last two. I'm in some improvement is needed. A this is a Frank Inc stangl That he caught me onto especially at a big price again. You know. We're talking about favorite. I need to see a lot more than just this. But frank loves betting horses who fast workouts who are typically closers to to bulletin row and the last one in particular. Was you know against a heartier list of of workers that morning versus to back? But there's just some you know enough number power here that at thirty to one and again a horse who has some recent Cedar Reform. She's been off since fairgrounds close but that was only two months ago these layoffs. You know twenty years ago. Two months was a long lay-off but now I mean that's not even atypical for some barn. So I have no concern in that regard and I just think maybe she's one that can fill out the exotics and that's an example. Jason for me You know I know we're mostly talking about the pick five when thinking about done by road. Is You know it comes four seven. That's an exact I can see myself having. I don't love them by road but chances are she's GonNa play higher in the win. She's in pay higher in the wind slot with flower party. Second than her win. Odds would indicate so Flower parties definitely went. I'm going to be watching the exact a we'll pays on and might might spice up a couple multi race wagers thin elsewhere shown bridge. Mahan Partners Bridge bounces me but I know is agents here with Kobe Hernandez as well so Hopefully is on the right. One here. At a big price was somebody was talking recently. They say how they can. They can't hear Danielson. Tina's name without doing grinders voice and I'm at that's me with James Graham or bridge. Mahan I go straight to duly straight to do James Graham Partners Bridgman grams at both. The Julie's join that's that's pretty much a year round. He's the duly circuit and bridge. Spent a fair bit of time in fairgrounds to so right but all right Eddie well you enjoy your holiday weekend as well as Churchill race Monday. Yes Oh wow. I didn't even realize all right. Well I'm not doing. I'm taking a holiday. Well you want to do on a recap probably after all that great holiday racing off. Okay yeah take that adds Brad. Does Adam know about that? He's going to all right. We'll we'll catch up next week. Thank you sounds good. So the Jerry Continues. Outta we welcome in James scully from Lexington James. How are you doing great? Thanks for on. We're we're speaking writer as they're getting ready to the gate for the fifth at Churchill on Thursday Y- longchamps pick this right so we're going to see if we can go through this interview. 'cause I know we're both watching the race and we're going to see if we can go and the people will never be able to know your reaction to it unless it wins then. I might give credit. 'cause you're out of thirty eight to one shops. Sounds good to be a professional. Believe me. I've done many interview over the years where it's like. Yeah you know. We're looking forward to opening day. Portland horse it called or getting run down but James as we go through Saturday card and I was talking with the guys about last week and I think I might have even mentioned it to you like these are long cards. They're big fields. They're challenging events. I know you guys are doing your handicapping. Usually a couple of days in advance and find yourself in all kinds of getting lost down okay. What's what's coming up today. Which race was I look at that kind of stuff? No not too much. You know this is really the first week where I've really been busy like For the weekend in the middle of the re a week because of these false so I've been spending a lot of time I started looking at last night. Spent a Lotta time on it today. But I'm definitely juggling back and forth because I spent yesterday a handicap at Thursday. And then I. I worked on Saturday up on Friday and Saturday today so these races are running. And I'm having to go back and refresh a little bit but like on a car today. I didn't have a lot of like strong opinions for me. You know you reference how competitive it is such and you know when it's like that you really you know to me You know have to be selective. I mean you really have to play where you have an opinion and be willing to watch and and not bad when where you don't especially just from a straight race perspective that's a lot but And like today's card I think I mentioned to you before we went on. There's there's a horse later on the car and I liked and they'll probably but he might be the only one. I really seriously today. Well the the race for Saturday that you picked as as you're one to talk about here I mean a total doozy right. The the it's it's funny. I was thinking about how the older handicap division is is kind of a little down in terms of the top end. But man this this kind a middle grade. Three you know grouping is awesome. I mean there's just a ton of different angles. There's a lot of horses you can make cases for and it's a field of fourteen going to one term which to me is always remarkably interesting to handicap. Yeah without a doubt and there are definitely It's definitely a little bit of That feel where you have a to turn force in. Who's cutting back to the one turn distance as well as some other ones and then you also have some a horse global campaign who looks like he's strictly a one turn type so always fast in any everybody talks about this with the met. Mile Where you have the sprinters in routers coming together You know at a at a distance we you wrote a piece on prisoner previewing this race a little bit and you know I was. I always especially with these big fields. I love having optics which I use kind of my pace layout kind of thing with the plot and just to kind of get a vague. Look at how they're thinking. The race might setup. Who are you kind of thinking is is the speed I mean? Is it diamond? Qingwei to the outside. I mean we know Mr Money likes to be handy backyard heaven. I mean there's a lot of horses I think that could be prominent or at least want to be. Yeah I think I think there's no doubt about it. There's two main speed players the long run about half mile to the to the far turn and and you referenced of Mr Money and Post Ten and Donna King Donna King and post Twelve it's money. Isolated in is not in close concern but To me that yeah. They're part of the pays another horse. It's a little bit interesting in their from pace. Perspective is And Distribution Post. Thirteen is always mining Jason. Got A lot of speed in his career. Definitely I think could be part of the pace from my post for with Manny Franko aboard. But yeah I it's IT'S I. Don't say a real blazing blazing hot taste. Dining king you know could could bring it back in the day a little bit but but still. I think it's a little bit of a setup where you know you're not GonNa get burnt out on the lead. If you like a horse it's going to be Up Close from the start and that sorta how approaching it because my topic and the race has some technical speed. Well I think lot I don't first of all I don't know that Owen. Dale saw the morning just came out. He was listed. I think the three to one morning favorite. I don't think he's going to go off. Favored I get that. He ran pretty well in the Clark but I just I don't get the sense just from looking at the race but also from the early chatter that that he's going to be short price. I feel like closers in general are usually up against it in terms of being the favorite players just like horses that are going to be a little bit closer up but to me he's kind of go against in the spike as she said. There's there's a fair bit of horses that to be on or near the lead and we haven't seen a ton of like deep closing on the dirt so far this meet it seems like you. You WanNa be a little bit handy. Yeah that's for sure. I mean it could definitely change the Churchill so you gotta pay attention to it and you know I thought even on the opening weekend speed played better on the first half of the program than it did on the ladder half The special Saturday where the track was drying out but even on Saturday thought Labour understood little bit later. Better later but Oh and Dale. This does look like it strictly to me a prep race of. He's targeting. The Stephen Foster Handicap on June twenty seven. That's his main goal and the first half of the season. It looks like you know. He's not a one term type. I mean he is by in the midst of a lot of like sprinter miler types a lot of horses with speed but he's a confirmed closer who hasn't been award turn distance since he dropped. The first two starts of his career. His maiden win came in a mile but it was a to turn mile and He's runs strictly. A to turn races in his last twelve starts I definitely a horse that Rally for second or third from Austin Pace But to me yeah definitely a play against Dailies there's a fair bit of horses in this race. That are kind of making their seasonal debuts off pretty decent layoffs I mean of course everywhere in racing right now for the most part. You'RE GONNA run into a lot of thirty sixty ninety day layoffs because of the break in the pandemic and stuff but backyard heaven. Oh and Dale extrordinary Jerry. Discreet lover and many of them kind of coming off of a long layoffs. I think the puzzles right now are really fun because Everything just seems a little bit different than the norm for handicapping. Yeah there's no doubt about it. and You know Gosh I mean it's funny with both Discreet love. Or you know in there. I mean that works won the Jockey Club Cup in two thousand eighteen and You know hasn't been seen. Since last April next to racist Breeders Cup Classic Charleston Classic he ran poorly and he's just completely up against it because he's confirmed closer A horse like King. You know to me Is More of like a true like our type. He's got a race under him. He's a little bit interesting especially at ten to one on the morning on. The real question is whether he's good nothing. I might not be good enough to win. But you know he. He's the type that could hold on for part. Especially if it's not a a real time data what do you make of of silver dust to me. He he obviously had a great winter and he seems to run pretty well Churchill downs. I just think he's a cool horse. I mean he's kind of a bit of a throwback type and you know he's getting older now six years old and he shows up for a lot of these Kinda funky trip last time and found himself on the lead before fading against by my standards. Who kind of had a perfect trip that day? But I think he he's a contender to get back in the mix here. Yeah and he certainly likes to track for. He ran a really big race in that Lucas Classic last year. You know he got beat a neck but he was like four lengths clear of the rest. I thought he was going to win. And upper stretch. And you know he's just too hard hitting forced me really loves like Middle Distance you know. Perhaps amount of sixteenth might be to turn bombs sixteenth. My hidden between the is more but he's versatile enough to handle I think a one turn mile on and his tactical speech and ensure a good trip. He's the tight Jason that if a competition is it too deep to me. He's a huge threat to win. But there's always a question mark you know you you reference that New Orleans loves fairgrounds but I guess I I know he didn't have the ideal trip but he was going to be have a hard time to eat my by my standards regardless because you know he's just he's. Kinda that's going to garage typically at great three level when you wrote your piece on President. You talked about Mr Money and you know. He's obviously he's had a couple of of not great performances. Raiders kept my home and you can certainly be a little bit more forgiving at that particular level. But I didn't think really had much of an excuse last time unless you're using the the wet track as an excuse but I mean if you toss those two races. He's one of the favorites in here and he very well could be again. I guess yeah I mean for sure. let me go. Let me just say with the I think his main rival in the rate is global campaign and we can come back to them after. I finished talking about Mr Money but to me last spring Turkey Derby Day Mr Money came to Churchill that week and he was coming there off of three consecutive performances. He has just once this In the Louisiana Derby beating and me. You know those were just too long for him you know. He's not a real true and eight type he can get it has the right company but to me he's a more of a middle distance specialist and I thought his hat day mile was one was visually. The most impressive racy Ram by a mile last year I thought that was an exceptional fielder. And there was an early trump for the lead and case just had a condo horse up close to the pace down the backstretch going into the far attorney. Just couldn't even hold the horse anymore. He just powered his way to the lead and to me I I thought he won by about eight or nine watching. It live the final margin. His father three quarters but the clear run up comes right back and wins a grade one race in his next start So that to me is a pretty solid steel and I just think it was a glimpse of what that force hand potentially do at one. Turn Mile Jason. I you know. He went on and Iran in Mount Win. Indiana Derby the West Virginia Derby the Pennsylvania Derby. I don't really think he face that good horses in races and he was versatile enough because the distance you know win at times but his colleague I think is a one term. How and I couldn't be more excited to bet Mr Money and tomorrow's blame steak. I think he's GonNa freaking win the race. I think he's going to be the favourite in the July. Were met ball off of it. And then after they run them in that raises. You cut him back to seven for long grade one races. Because I don't think this was any part of two turns anymore and I think we're GonNa see what I'm talking about on Saturday. Well him and gave size of made a good team so we shall see I diamond kings. So James we're we're out in thirteen and fourteen land together pal and I will just say no campaign. I do think his main rival Jason. Because I mean you can just look at that comeback race. He ran a really good race in either paying a one turn right and then you know he's just got he's GonNa be into -sition turning palm that it's Mr. Money is all that that I'm saying to me. He's the most likely winner but yeah I'm willing to take on him. You Know I. I'm looking forward to the races. You're right with these older horses. Coming back mcgahey has total of honor and performer. Who are both four year olds both or one or both could be pointing to raise like this summer and I just think this is a dynamite that is and I think courses like Mr Money Goebel campaign and then even routes Owen. Dale can go on to be major players going forward. Yeah the blame can be a fundraiser. James Good luck with it this weekend. We'll catch up next week. All right thanks a lot. Jason always have fun doing it. So we continue on our jury segment and we head back over. Louisville and welcome in Scotch Peer Oshaf Cap. What's going on brother? I back from a day. Three of the Churchill downs meet ten race card in the books and looking forward to a big weekend are man Eddie. I talked to him just before the tenth race on Thursday. And we're talking just after the card finished in Eddie had twenty one top pick. He was he was walking a little taller last night. Yeah had eight horses to close out. I single double single spread and didn't use his horse so a little bitter little bitter sweet. I still trying to figure out. I see a couple angles. He came up with but yeah he was Excited deservingly so good job by him. You know are. I don't know if you know Dan Dna DNA tours. He had posted You know he said because it just goes to show you handicap. Ten percent of the deal. He had a exact box key where he keyed the ten with a bunch of horses in the TRIFECTA key where he keyed the nine with a bunch of horses and it run ten nine. They were both twenty one to one and he didn't pair up the two in the exact at any point and it was. I'm going to have to hit him up. All He tweeted about it. I mean it it was possible. You're too key horses. Run One two and you don't have. That's why I think that's what he's scratching his head of. Act One of those you can't. You can't let let go capitalize on some dude paid five hundred fifty for exact. I think our let me call. Yeah the worst part about it as I said all day on Air. This is the most impossible race. You're not just looking at one thousand thirty five dollars to. Yeah Yeah I mean I said all day. It was the hardest race in the car. Spread seven deep in my single six ticket. That was only thirty eight. Bob's but I guess you know I guess the lesson learned which I'll probably never learn is you're trying to beat the favourite in the spotlight that you use all the others but it's just not my style did you. I want to ask about the ticket. Share thing because I feel like I've seen it on the Internet and I've I feel like people talking about a little more and I think you had some success with it last weekend if you didn't I apologize but I thought I remember seeing you had had a good day one of the days. Can you explain a little bit? About what the ticket share is on twin spires. Yeah so I almost had success with it. Explains that yeah. I beat four favorites in a row and was single to afford a five for six thousand one. So what it is is either Joe Ed or I in this case you can do it on your own. Anyone that has a twin spires account can can create a bed. Share for what we've been doing to kind of Exemplify what what the what the program is is doing them. One of US takes the role we put in tickets. And you click on the share back and then you can share as many of the shares as you want. You have to keep at least one share. I think he could share up twenty. So you'd have to keep one twentieth of the ticket and then you put a tweet out. The link and people with twin spires accounts could jump in and buy one share to share three shares. But this doesn't just go for you know for for us on the air or US please. This is something where you know you have to. You know. Maybe some people don't have as good an avenue to share the tickets but on social media pretty easy to Create a ticket maybe only want to spend half of it know and you want to try to share the other half you can create tickets on there and yet share in. Bet. I think it's a. It's one of the core things we've got going and something that I'd love to see take off. It sounds a lot easier than then mowing ninety. Three of your buddies. Different varied amounts throughout a weekend day. Yeah I think that's kind of the point of it for sure. The money obviously is being your twin spires account. But you know you just by a little sliver I mean we put up a ninety six dollar ticket. You Want One twentieth. It's four dollars and eighty cents. It gives you a good route. You know something for people that don't like to play big tickets but Kinda know that playing a small ticket is kind of Probably not a idea too difficult. It gets you in on some chances for big hats and just a small slice well chap we're working our way through this Extravaganza on Saturday at Churchill in you had selected that you wanted to talk about the Matt Winn stakes which this year more so than really any Matt. Win Ever is obviously taking on added significance with the Derby points and big field of twelve lining up to go a mile and a sixteenth. And I do think that the outside post is a little bit of a question mark in these races. I mean I know it's that attorney. Churchill comes up really quick in the first turn and there's some contenders that are drawn out wide. Yeah I totally and I knew this beforehand obviously for being there and you know as well but the new angle that we have the camera. Angle livens has really exemplified. Just how challenging this is. I think it's worth noting but yeah I mean. There are some Three of the favorites on the morning. Line Max fueled attachment rate major fat all parked out ten eleven twelve and it certainly is a factor. Unless you're planning on maybe like I would assume major fed probably just good drop out into the back. Maybe Max field as well but Yeah I mean if you're a horse is tactical at all you could get caught four five y very easily. It'd be taken out of your game. We'll start with Max field because I think he's one of the more interesting stories in the race and I've kind of argued that his because he was so good last year that he and he hasn't done anything wrong this year because he hasn't run that he's maintained this High ranking and Derby polls and just kind of in the mind of the of the public but that said I mean we're talking about horse. It hasn't run an eight months and it's only run twice and both those were mid late. Two year old runs. Yeah no doubt a horse that you look at it and you have to be impressed with what happened at the age of to tip the cap no that he could beat you potentially but you know I think is a gambler. This is a horse. We gotta take a chance against off the layoff. They had a couple Issues while training. You SEE A gap. If you're looking at his workouts for Mark Fourteen April tenth obviously was supposed to run on the Breeders Cup Juvenile. So He's been a little delicate I would think that you know. This isn't the ultimate goal. Although I guess they need to try to get an offline voids if the Derby's the goal but this is a lot to ask the horse we already talked about the outside post. You talk about how he doesn't have a lot of speed. He strategy struggled to get out of the gate He was very impressive in the breeders. Futurity but it was. The track was playing towards his running style off the pace kind of outside sweeping moves. That data take anything away from me. Beat a good group of forces that also had that trip but Yeah I just don't see enough speed signed on and the layoff. Just make me think that he's GonNa have to beat me Jason. Let's look down toward the inside. I think Mr Guide was obviously a really good winner last time out and it was the everybody that was that horse on the Louisiana Derby Day that everybody got touted on and won impressively pneumatic though is been awesome in two starts and has gotten big speed figures at least on bridges and Steve is not going that great right now but still I mean. This horse looks awesome to starts. And he's going to be probably a little bit of a higher price. I would guess at Maxwell to been the same awesome in two starts. Yeah I missed it. Guide I don't think any fifteen to one is realistic at all. Also yeah so when your traffic it's down to ten to one. Because he he to me looks like possible own speed and I think people are going to see that I agree Mystic is going to have to come from out of it out kickbacks field in major fed but the inside draw is is an advantage in this situation I think. Brighter Anders Junior as good as anybody at saving ground. What you need to do a churchill downs and source has loaded talent. Not sure we beat. Amman's Eagle came back and ran a disappointing fourth on opening day verb yet to break the made in but he did it. Impressively and always Even before that I start was touted as a good thing. Pneumatic is going to be my lukewarm top choice in this race. I'm GONNA probably go. Three deep a horizontal setting with Mr Guide pneumatic. You mentioned your traffic who I agree could easily be loose on the lead with Taco but I think pneumatics going to get that pocket trip and I'm not really sure what he's done wrong. I think getting going amount of sixteenth shouldn't be an issue that one mile at Oakland is to turns Beaded solid group. That day capt him bass thickened February fifteenth maiden race. I think was probably the most live at Arkansas. All meet long so I think we should get four to I. Katie match in this field that you don't get at least the morning line. Price on pneumatic. Yeah I am interested to see how the betting comes in. Because like you said. I think we're we're seeing this race very similar and also I think others are certainly going to see mystic guide and New York traffic and I think those two odds are both coming down when other horses. Odds comes down. I mean pneumatic to me. Look I I remember thinking. Oh Man I can get four to one on this horse but then I think well those two odds are gonNA come down Max. `field certainly going to get some support. I almost wonder if attachment rate ends up being a little bit of the forgotten horse. And maybe even major fed because of their posts and just because of maybe some other alternatives. Yeah I think made your fed probably will go off a little bit higher than five to one with the outside draw and the lack of speed and I agree I think attachment rates four. Two one is a little bit low. I think he's probably more of an eight to one type horse in this race. The outside draw but really just has the one win last time out had every reason to beat Dr Post in that race where Dr Post had a brutal trip and really kinda struggled to finish. I know got a decent speed rating in the event. But he's a horse that if he's at four to one I'd be definitely willing to take on a little chilly so somebody tweeting. Dale gets more Churchill because he's a hometown guy. Do you think that's the case at all? I'm not sure I mean. I would definitely think they'd kind of his. The hometown may factor versus Gulfstream. Might come into play a little. Maybe when he and his bond tout a horse he gets out a little more outs every very true. You don't here publicly. Yeah the mid and lower level courses but he had a worse today that was one of the major contenders and race. Eight inch you. L. and but ended up going off as a nine to five favorite probably was more of a three to one shot But Yeah I mean I think at home his worst get better a little more at Gulfstream. These I want to say he's just a guy that's not meant to be a red but there's a lot of guys that are based out of Florida and there's a lot of guys that have had bigger careers than even dale so I would agree with that. Aren't you capital well? Best of luck on the big Saturday and enjoy your holiday weekend and we'll catch up with you next week. Thanks beamer always good chat. I. WE'RE GONNA catch up with you guys right after this short time out. It is a Friday edition of the Jason Beam Horse Racing podcast brought to you by twin spires the Jason Beam. Worst Bracing podcast brought to you by twin spires. Is Your home for daily thoroughbred horse racing conversation? Join host Jason Bean. Has He discusses racing from around the country interviews jockeys trainers media personality and horse players every Monday through Friday. The show can be found at twin spires dot com or on I tunes Speaker Stitcher or wherever you get your podcast from the Jason Beam Racing. Podcast brought to you by twin spires. This is the Jason Horseracing. Podcast brought to you by twin spires My thanks to the boys in the jury box for joining us talking some Churchill. We'll talk about those other couple of stakes races on that. Churchill card here in just a moment we got the Tappan on the turf. I saw norm. Cassie has one in the Tappan and my my heart will be rooting for norm. Who's going to be a big long shot in that race? I think there thirty two one in the morning. Line Air of light. But I I would love to see take-home tappin. Because of course norm worked very closely with tappin. And also part of that card is the a war chant. Both big field. I mean Churchill's just been throwing big field after big field after big field at US It's made for some some fun and challenging racing so far in the first couple of days three days I guess it is and I'm looking forward to more of it as we go throughout this spring season and you know of course more tracks starting to open up. Lone Star Park opens up later tonight. I think they. I saw Lonestar going to Monday Tuesday Wednesday schedule for June. They actually have the option to race with a twenty five percent occupancy and I saw that they elected not to do that. I think right now that might be smart just because I don't think anybody wants to you know if there is some kind of boost in the covid it comes out of a race track. I don't think anybody wants to be part of an initial big boost. And so that's my guess. I could be totally wrong on why they're doing it but I think it's You know I think right now. It's it's not the worst thing to be A little defensive when it comes to To that stuff I guess I mentioned the other day. We will not have a show on Monday. Because it's Memorial Day and I always like to Make mention of Memorial Day and those who gave their lives for our country and the appreciation and the Admiration and also the sadness we feel for for their loss in their sacrifice but A big big. Thank you to to all of them. Who perished in defense of our great country? I always make a point on Memorial Day. Talk about this every year My GRANDPA HE served in World War. Two and he told me one time he said you know he said. You don't have to take a lot of time because but just take a minute. Take one minute to minute on Memorial Day and just really sit down and think about the sacrifice that those men and women have made You know for our country and for our freedoms and he said he goes. I think a lot of them would be happy just to know the thought about him for a minute or two and you know that was his personal thing but I always it resonated with me so I always do it and say it With that said move on and talk about the the bully L. We talked about the blame. Already we're talking about happen. The stakes a mile on the TURF COURSE. Churchill Kennedy interested to see if eve of war draws in because I thought that the EVA war looked like kind of a contender and in a really good front end type. was really impressive. Going wire-to-wire last time but missed the gate by a by once-popular boy. There's just some interesting horse in here. All a perfect for for four horse. We've seen travel already won a couple races at Belmont including the matron they went down to del Mar. Won the Jimmy Durante. They went to fairgrounds and one the the and now they show up here at Churchill horses done nothing wrong is very talented. Paco showing up. I have this weird feeling pocket might have a big day I you know. Paco has his detractors. He has his fans. I've been a fan in terms of man when he's gone. There's not a lot of guys I want on my horse more than him. I think he just a puts horses in good positions. But he's also just I mean he's just fearless and You know break it from the fourteen whole going a mile. Obviously they have an eighth of a mile before they get to the finish line but as we talked about with scotched a minute ago that I turned comes up Quick Church. I mean on the dirt track. They literally hit the wire. Take a few steps and they're going into the turn. The turf course is not quite as exaggerated. But it's not the longest run to that. I turn so for all who's kind of a stocker presser. One of the issues is the horses just to her inside are all kind of forwardly placed types like that and there's a lot of those Sharing is back in this race. Of course after winning the Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf. I can't say enough how much I mean after what we saw with four wheel drive and you know these horses that win the Ju- The juvenile turf races. I'm just I'm just always going to be against them. I think it's You know especially when now that is coming off a bit of a layoff if Graham. Has This horse ready and fires a Big One. I mean I thought I like sharing a little bit in that Breeders Cup race and I thought it was just. She took that next step forward but to me to debut as a three year old debut but to make your three year old debut against. What's a pretty tough group? I mean there's some good horse in here walking in Marakesh. I think a talented runner down in post three Like I said there's a bunch of outbursts there. There's there's probably five or six sources in here that I find really really interesting. Pass the plate as a big long shot. I thought was maybe okay. You know was There was ways I thought you could go to try to beat sharing in here and even have Scott I think Kind of like a little bit Who was beaten in that Breeders Cup turf but it's come back to run pretty decently DANTEC Gulfstream and a couple of starts and I thought maybe another move forward could put that one somewhere in the hunt but it's a fun fun little race and like I said I just with all GMS Dr- you know being way outside and sharing coming off the long layoff and against this field. I just thought this is a race where I'm going to probably try to get a lot of big. You know. Get a lot of big prices on a ticket and try to just flat out. Beat those two from from either top spot Whether you're playing exact as pick five. Pick fours or other horizontal wages. I don't want any part of either of those two horses at short prices because I think they're both having to overcome enough things that I just Not the kind I WANNA be around. But I also wouldn't WanNa miss if I can beat one of those two because I think with the big fields that we're going to see throughout these sequences. A lot of people are going to be looking for opportunities to only go two or three deep and if they see those two as kind of clear cut first and second choices. I think a lot of tickets are going to go to just those to the final race on the program which we want to talk about. Is the war. Chance takes hundred thousand mile on the turf or the three roads we get to Jeff Ruby stakes winner in here. Field Pass was late closing winner and what was not my favorite prep of the the Ruby stakes has had a couple of tough years in terms of I think producing quality derby contenders. But to me. This is not the Derby right. This is a nice little listed stakes back on grass where the horse pretty much exclusively ran prior to that he had one start Churchill. That didn't go all that well. So you know. It's quite possible that he's just not a Derby trail horse and Mike Maker might just know this and say look. Let's let's stay on the grass or the synthetic we know he likes to run on that and I thought he he made a lot of sense in a race like this. He's he's got a little bit of an experience edge over a lot of the other horses in this race. I don't know that it's a race that is going to boil over with speed. I mean there's there's quite a few kinda early stock types Harouna says is a is a go to the lead. Try to stay to lead type other than that You know smooth like straight likes to be somewhat close up but there's a lot of closers stockers and so. I'm curious to see kind of how this race goes from a pace standpoint. I see those top to be in the to that battle and I thought feel pass was going to sit a pretty comfy trip just in behind them and you know. Haram is Is You know this is a very logical next step up from a little seventy five thousand steak down at fairgrounds billy. Batts returns in here we talked about with with Lee Davis yesterday. I thought Pixel late for my extend them was a little bit interesting in terms of horses. Who might be a little bit more of a price another one with a fair bit of experience it just has two wins from seven starts knocks on the door just seems to always run race and maybe the kind of horse she wanted just You know work into your exact or Trifecta if you're trying to be real real narrow in the That third spot. I mean t to me with trifles. I always think about stuff. People how they structure. I think most people kind of structure in what I call a Christmas tree. The they're very narrow up top and then they spread out as you go down and or pyramid. That's the other way that people calm and so you know most of the the big numbers in the wide numbers people have for third and more so for second unless so for I and so You know if I if the Horse I like is Is a bit of a short price. You know it might be a thing where I would want to kind of get him alone in third because everybody's spread in the third spot and maybe I tried to get my bombs in up top of where most people are not doing that but again try to. Structuring is no means my area of knowledge that just kind of at first glance. That's kind of how I think about it so I would love to hear from you guys if you have differing opinions on that kind of stuff but Jason Charles Beam g mail DOT COM or if you agree with what I'm saying that's always that's always fine as well. So looking forward to that Whole weekend racing at Churchill and looking forward to the holiday of course I'm Gonna I'm GonNa do a little day trip on one of the days. I think Sunday and just kind of joy. A little bit of downtime. Next week we will have shows Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday. So Tuesday will be our weekend recap. We'll look back not only at the Saturday action. But of course the Memorial Day holiday action as well. We'll have a couple of guests next week. I'm working on putting together. I talked about show yesterday about a certain topic that I thought would be good for. Maybe a little round table so I'm working on that for horse. Play Thursday and Yes we'll have just to interview days and then get ready for the weekend. I mean the beauty of a holiday weekend you get. That holiday within the next week is short. It's awesome so I hope you guys all do well this weekend Hit me up with some of your pick. Stronger selections You know every once in a while I'll get listeners. It'll just send me a ticket that they hit. I love seeing that. I was happy when you guys have a score We will see guys on Monday. Everybody have a great rest of your.

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"Hey, Dennis money show listeners. Thanks for tuning in. We've got an excellent episode for you today me and Matt are talking about. What makes a niche financial adviser important to a dentist talking about all the ways dentists have different and how a financial advisor who's been there done that seen it all can help you make smart financial decisions. You'll have over your whole life and career. Thanks for tuning in. If you have any questions, go to Dennis Adviser Dot Com Click on book free consultation scheduled chat with US enjoy the show consultant advisor conduct your own due diligence when making financial decisions. General Principles discussed during this program do not constitute personal advice. This program is furnished by dentist adviser registered investment. Advisor This is dentist money. Now here's your host Ryan Isaac, and welcome to the dentist money show where we help dentists make smart financial decisions. I'm Ryan Isaac sometimes involuntarily referred to as Sir Ryan. Isaac and I'm joined by the best guy in the world smartest financial adviser at Dennis Advisers Mr Matt Molcak. Setting me up for failure. Let's say that. No, that was it makes me feel really good but. My wife wants in fact, my wife recently, it's been like, Oh, you've been on the podcast I want to listen to him and I'm like. You're right. You have a rivalry here with Ryan and you with WHO thinks. Should be should be like, yeah, I've heard him talk before. We're good. Yeah exactly. So I think Matt is is is Great. It's great to have met on the show and we'll be looking forward to more matt on the show. PA. We learned a new word anyone. Sat there we were watching a flip of parks and rec of their radio like their public radio and they said that, and then we try to work at it so. Well that was like how how can how we say it? Nest Nest Matt Win was So this is September. It is. Yeah, September Twenty Twenty I recently got on a plane for the first time in a while. In covid hug. What is time you on a plane? Oh my gosh. Wow. I honestly don't remember probably. I don't even know. Wow Fly probably early twenty twenty had to been. Maybe. I haven't done a plane this year. I don't think I have maybe not so I yeah. Just flew here Phoenix to Salt Lake. Shout out to Phoenix how many people on the plane you know middle rows are still empty. So but it was full other than that. Everyone had a mask. Everyone had a mask is required. It is required. Yeah it has required. So. All right I got a question for you, I think everyone's been in the situation that's ever been on a plane. So imagine like you know you're you're up in the air as planes are. Absolutely on the ground. There then on the ground and. Hopefully in that order and. Softly so so You're in the air and. Is starts rocking a little bit like shaky. It's a little scary banks. You can fill your stomach drops like a roller coaster. I always every time I feel like your your stomach kind of gets that feeling when you drop in an airplane that must be like hundreds of feet at once. It has to be gotta be like a roller coaster. Feeling on a roller coaster wonder how far we just dropped airplane because it's relative I'm. Thirty. Thousand thirty thousand feet anyway. So you're sitting there the turbulence, the lights, the beeps shakes it's going side to side it's dipping. What are your reactions like instinctually what do you do when? Are. More than a shake enough to make you go what's going on yeah. What what are your reactions turn? What do you do? I? Mean the first thing I'm doing is just grabbing onto this you hold tighter. Yeah. Okay. Totally. Yeah. It's my first thing. I try not to depends on WHO's around me to my wife's on a side note I do the same thing to I'll reach tight my seatbelt I'm like like that too. Already on. Your helmet out helmet on. I don't know anything I summit. You grab grab this side. I tend to like look for the flight attendants. See like what there see what's going on with them like if they're calm I'm like, okay like they are going to have the first like if something's going on, they're going to know know they're gonNA and they're gonna you're gonNA see in their face like something's wrong. So I'm GonNa look at them initially. Go, this normal for sure. They would know that. Yeah. have. You ever seen one freak out by the way I don't. Like to their seat and be like Oh, crap sprinting down. I haven't seen that every stay calm. Knocking. Shoving people out. Anything anything else that goes that you do you. You grab on you to the flight attendant anything else that's no right or wrong answer. I'm not pressuring you hear so calm down but I'm just saying. I mean, maybe put my shoes back on. Get Ready. Just preparing the stuff we do. I always like to look out the window to see the landscape like if we tilted feels like were dropping, you look out the window. Are we yeah like I'd be able to tell if you're in a cloud, you have no idea you have no idea. So. Today we're talking about. Why? Why would you hire a financial advisor? WHO's a dentist only financial adviser and to be more helpful to our audience? I would say, why? Why would you hire anyone in your life as a dentist? Who is a niche? Dental specific person. Right, because So I was on a podcast. A couple I. don't even think it's come out yet. It was shared practices, shots, share practices, crew our guys over there. We they had this question where they were like Kay. Ryan. Why do people hire your firm and to answer that is backed up a little bit and said, well, let's talk about who dentists need to hire in general. What kind of people that they need around them in general during their career? WHO's their team? WHO's their team, and then why would you hire someone that says their dental specific? You know. So we kind of went on that topic but that's we're going to talk about today. But I wanted to point out because those flying here. This evening happened turbulence. Phoenix was crazy and landing I swear landing in Salt. Lake. City. It's always turbulent feel like it. Is it something with the air pressure? Yeah. The altitude or something mountains right Yep. But? The same. So I, always tight. My seatbelt as if that's going to save me if we hit the ground. You different. Your shoes on you're going to be fine and I always look out the window as if like I'm an gauge that we'll do horizon still looks okay and my window. So we're probably okay fine fine to flight attendants sweating lightly. Yeah. But then I okay. But I always say what you said I think this is the most I looked this up and there's a pretty like universal thing reaction people look to the flight attendant and that's something people do. Serious. Yeah I'll do it. I'm just saying I'm glad. Okay most common reaction average should we've already determined? So that's good. If you're if you're scared on an airplane and it's bumpy people looked at the flight attendant and so I asked the question to myself as I was thinking about this podcast when we're gonNA talk about hiring a niche advisor as dentist, why do we? Why do we look at the flight attendant? Yeah. So why in your head? You look at the flight attendant shaky. You grab the seats and they look over up the aisle and you look at the flight attendant. Why do you do that I? Just feel like, yeah I, feel like they are going to know what's going should know you should know you're on your like fourth flight in a couple years of their on their four hundredth flight. Yeah right probably that month. month. So that's what we're. GonNa talk about and that's that's the story that was in my head. I'm like we've looked to people that have been there before and we gauge their reaction and we gauge their advice in their signals on. How should I react like I'm on I'm on a plane rarely that person's daily. So I'm going to just look at them and see what is she saying about this? What is he doing right now? Is He sprinting down the aisle trying to grab? Is He? Or she is she's calling me sitting there. Joking I always like want to look ahead and they're joking back and forth to each other all their. No big deal or they're crazy like they don't care point. We're GONNA, take a quick break but we're going to start breaking down. We're GONNA talk about we're going to go back up a little bit and say ask the question that I was asked on shared practices which is. Why would someone hire a niche? Financial Adviser only works at Dentists, we'll make that a broad question why would you hire a niche EPA or you know niche attorney but we'll answer this in terms of what makes a dentist different and you know, why would you want to look at somebody during certain times your career that seen it hundreds of times as opposed to just one or two or you know single digit number of time. So take a quick break and we'll pick up there when we get back. Hey Matt what do you like to drink? Or snack on when we do our webinars every month that's a good question I'm usually hitting a red bull. But it's hard because there's an evening Webinar. Yeah. These evening webinars taking place six thirty PM Mountain Standard Time Mountain time once a month where do you find it? Well, if you'd like to find the Webinar or you'd like to register for it, you go Dennis Advisors, dot com slash Webinar, or just go to the website and click on webinars the education it's. A good time it's a great time. What kind of things do we cover in our Webinar Matt? So each month we're hit an element, right? So it's going to be some component of your financial life. We're going to dive a little bit deeper than we would like on the dentist money show right? We get a draw pictures there's live polls you can ask questions. Great Time. It's a good time. Well, we'd. We'd love to see you in attendance at one of our fantastic webinars. JUST GO TO DENNIS ADVISORS DOT COM sign up today for the next one. Thank you very much. All right and we are back from this break where by the way we were talking with our podcast producer and he says that his reaction during term turbulences to fall asleep. Like a like a Bait Mike Obey, my first response you're. Being rocked asleep. So I guess not not everyone's looking to the flight entity I. Don't I don't think I've ever heard that before I think normally we're not gonNA use that as an example. That's thank you for the incredible. Okay. So let's let's. Let's try to answer this question by giving some context. of I thought I'd just go through a list of things that. Y is it dentist different and maybe that's an obvious question as someone listening to this like wool. Maybe. It's an obvious question like there's so many things that make us different. But I think a lot of dentists genuinely wonder what does make us different than Is He got I've got. Consultation call or just on an event or something choir we differ, why did you dentists? What's so different amount of dentists you know so I I've just got some categories that will kind of run through in subcategories of those that are make a dentist very different than the average. Even if you compare to someone else who's like same income, you know obscene tax bracket all that kind of the same net worth. There's just so many different things about it that make it very different. So and then you maybe you have some to, and like we'll just go back sure you have the same list we have the same we've been doing this for a while. We've been on four hundred flights this week. So we're good. That's exactly the point we yeah I guess if we just Redo this podcast and be like we are your flight attendants. We. Hope you enjoy the next thirty two minutes. Listening to this on a flight in the middle of turbulence we hope where you're looking at the flight attendants. Look at us. It's all good. We're. We're calm. Just listen to our voices. All right. So number one I think, and this is I was sharing on the other podcast today was right off of the bat dentists are very different. I guess, even you just say they're very different in education right? their their educational track is longer much longer than the average person and it's pretty grueling but I was gonNA say right off the bat dentists are different in their debt loads and if you think about Especially dentist nowadays, if you're listening to this and you've graduated in the last five years. To say that you have half a million dollars in student loans doesn't even make anyone blinking any more not at all I remember when we started this business and I remember talking to clients for some the first time about their debt in talking like Oh six. Oh, seven and it'd be like Yeah I've got one hundred, fifty in debt two, hundred grand in debt or A. How on earth? Can you have that much in debt? Now. If there's any non dentist listening then just reach out to your dentist next time in. Thank them. Okay. For going what they've gone through because now most dentists coming out of school with more debt than the nicest house. Most people ever Oh. Yeah. I mean. You're in the coast. People in Orange in southern California and New York right now like what you talk I've got five Dennis student loan. Dennis. She'd be like the new How you flex on people on your mortgage like how many dentists are in your house? Five Denison have gone to dental school five times in this new flex. So right off the bat, you know dentists are coming out of school, his debt load that's more than the average person's dream home. And that's just coming out of school. Most dentists also pursue a career, which is a different point we might make but pursue a career were owning a business is kind of the common way and it's kind of a goal for most Dennis Right I. Think I think it sellers yeah. Yeah. It's it's changing a little bit but a bit. There's more options. Now before a most common things you want to own a practice so. Before you even go by Your Business, you're already in the hole much and then when you add a mortgage on top of that and you out of business I'm you can add a business loan on top of that of another you know could be as cheap as a few hundred thousand dollars it could be could be a million dollars could be seven figures. And then some other things. So that's the first thing that came to my mind is before the career even begins day one, you have more debt than any other average person we'll have throughout their entire lives you know more than likely. So anything you want I don't know if that was on your list or not with no was number one for me too. So here's the question is. Then, what are the different in your mouth or your experience? What are the decisions that are different for a dentist throughout their career that? That are different in debt decisions or that makes you know their situation different because of all this stuff. Yeah. I mean I think the fact that the debt load is so high against this you have to have it to get to where you are in your career early early on. It's kind of this recognition that you're going to carry that. A lot longer in life most likely right and you're gonNA have to because like you said if you're going to be a business owner. That's GONNA become should be your priority growing income growing in that Pratt grownup practice, and that's going to that decision to kind of push off that debt extended out Carrie longer in your life. I'm not going to say in every case is the right way. But in most cases, it's going to be the right way to do it. So I think the psychological impact that can have an glad said that. I think that's something that again something we see all the time is like how to approach that from a psychological and emotional perspective and reaffirming to them like this is the right move carrying this debt, extending it out maybe not worrying about it. You know the interest rate for right now or the payment or whatever like focus on. Your Business. I other things you bring up a good point God. He said that because think about the The pressure of carrying that much extra debt be before you even get to begin your career. And a lot of cases start your family to decide where you're gonNA live, get your first house whatever. You've already got crushing amounts of debt. Yes. Most average people would just be like this is a slow their model, their mind. You're already beginning in a position where your future decision making is going to be. More heavily weighted with emotion and pressure and stress and anxiety than a one of your peers, even the same income range or even in the similar field of like income range or something you're already dealing with an amount of pressure that your peers don't feel in our process. If you WANNA know what we're talking about. You can follow along in the website Dennis advise dot com click on elements. There's this that we do once a year we dedicated an entire month to this subject of debt and you can go to the elements page click on debt rate it's in the middle row of these little boxes third over I don't know what color is it on your shirt right now green. Green. Screen it should be read. Yeah. I was just thinking that we should be read. We're always in the design process always so You know for this really different though every single year we spent an entire month analyzing the interest rates and the terms and the payments and the remaining amount of interest. for every client and we look at it and we go. Can. We get a better rate today Can we combine some loans? Should we start paying extra on some of these things you know? That's just a unique piece of financial planning that most other people even peers with similar income similar network will not likely have to deal with, but it's highly likely. It's very likely that a dentist could refinance loans literally every year. In order to eat lowering payments, lowering interest or speeding up debt reduction especially, and maybe we're a little bit bias over the last. Since we started this business rates of just kept going down. So I imagine at some point refinances won't be is common but I mean. We've been refinancing loan since Oh six not we I mean we've been helping dentist find a good lender do that so. From a financial planning perspective. That's such. A unique thing that's a that's an activity you should be going through. Imagine if you're a dentist and you start on your fifteen year loan and your practice, you're twenty you're building and you never refinance again started at five six or seven percent interest rates. I mean, you're leaving tens of thousands probably hundreds of thousands of dollars could be hundreds of thousands. Yeah I mean I'll for my experience over the years every year when we run this month and dentists take a look at their new debt. I mean dozens and dozens of people in refinancing probably millions of dollars in debt and probably saving multiple six figures and interest easily Let's hit one on your list Matt What's when you want to bring up something that makes a dentist different that will alter their financial planning. Yeah. I think it kind of is in the along the same lines, but you know with the schooling and how long it takes, but you hit it a little bit. In your first comment. were. They come out and they're kind of this more than any profession out there even MD's. She's most MD's there. This hybrid right there we call them entrepreneur, right? So because again, most for the most part owning a practice is going to be the end goal. So they come out they're clinician right there also a business owner. So again, we've his term entre professional like no other. Industry really deals with this. Again, there might be some MD's out there I know, but it's like the norm. So it brings challenges and things that no again, nobody has to deal with. That you're running this business, and by the way most of the time it's getting better but you're not taught how to be a business owner or no finance or no one. Part of the ten years or half a million dollars. Training they're coming out of school at five hundred grand in debt and he don't know how to run a business and what's the first thing you're doing in the first two years usually you're buying and the most important things you'll do I mean I don't I don't know someone five me on this but. Some of the most. Important decisions you'll make our business decisions not just clinical decision. Oh. Yeah. Early in your career and they're just so crucial. So I guess going back to the flight attendant analogy though is when these things come up like if you're dealing with your debt or you're dealing with career decisions that are dramatically different than. Most other people have to deal with because you have to. Fix Teeth well. But you have to train people and run marketing in manage your HR, your marketing, your sales. So when you have questions about these things and you, it's again when there's turbulence on the plane when there's turbulence in your debt and there's turbulence in Your Business. Decision Making. Things. You have to deal with. You know the hundreds of decisions you'll have to deal with as a business owner I mean you want to be able to turn to the person who's seen it hundreds of times to and go when you're freaked out about your debt load or Ma'am about to take on a partner is this normal to other people go through this? You don't want the flight attendant to turn around and be like, Bro. I don't know I. Don't really. I haven't heard from the pilot like thirty minutes. Can you imagine if you look at? Like. Are you scared and they're like, I, don't know I don't really do this often. I haven't seen this ever would be it would be huge problem and I think that's let's take a quick break most because I need to what the whistle and stretch the quads, and then we'll be right back. As. 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Enemies I can say now yeah for at least that one then I'm gonNA use that a whistle. Let's talk about spending. Are I think the last time we measure this. So again, spending, if you go to Dennis advisors dot com click on elements spending is a subject that we spend an entire month on every. It's pink probably pink on this Sherman Shirt. PINK YEAH IT'S A. If you go. There is also another subject financial planning. We spend an entire month on in a very common question I think everyone wants to know. But of course, it comes up with dentists do I spend too much money. Or commonly, because we Double as marriage counselors we do does my spouse spend too much money and actually doesn't usually come in question for him it's usually statement. Much money and they're hiring you to tell them that comes a statement in the actual question is, can you help them? And you stop them. Yeah. That's true. It's a statement than a question. Can you help me but the question is, do I spend too much money and again, if you don't watch the way, dentists spends their money you might be blown away by how much money gets spent the last time we ran this element for our clients and did the average it's been increasing obviously. I think the average used to be around fifteen thousand it's closer to seventeen or eighteen. Now, it'll be interesting to see twenty twenty. Yeah. I don't know who's out maybe everyone out there hiring us or just big spenders in your skewing the averages. Yeah. So if you our listeners right now like what? I maybe. But. I bet not I don't know. I, mean it. Goes back to the dentist Kerry and Guess we might as well hit it right now an income. So According to census, Bureau Studies. which I think there's a flaw in the. In the methodology here dentists are rated as the number two occupation for highest earning occupation in the country. The methodology though is by w income publishes payroll. Which a dentist The dentist total income. It doesn't come from all W. to know. So I had to just if I was a Batman which definitely what is that number by the way? Do you know what? The the average like two hundred or? Tie. One hundred. So that's way too. Well, it's way too low now for a brand new associated be like, yeah that's what I make when you across like all all the country and Especially all the business owners most dinosaur taking most of their income from net distributions of net income. So I would argue if I were a betting man. Which I'm not you you're not no I. Don't know how to play any good casino games. You're not like a fantasy football guy I don't know how to even begin because betting is now legal it is now legal I don't even know where to begin with that stuff. But if I were I would say that actually dentists are the number one income category in the country. So what does that entail though the more and I don't know if this is like human nature, it's the American way but the more money we make the more we spend absolutely I mean, this happens to everybody and dentists are no exception. So when you say the average dentist spending eighteen, grand a month or seventeen grandma of the people that we work with. I I mean I would easily be willing to say that the average dentist is in the whole country, all two hundred thousand dentists is not spending less I. The average is not less than twelve thousand no way I would say the average has got to be pretty representative of what we're collecting and I mean if our average is going up, but we're getting more clients than we've ever had. The average is probably holding true for the group and we have a big enough client base. Use that as a now, our clients to obviously the bias skewed. By people who would hire a financial adviser which might skew towards wealthier higher income people, but the point is. If you're if you're asking that question about yourself to spend too much money is this adversely affecting neither way? I standard does my spouse to spend much money or they do spend to do can stop and. The I mean, you want to ask that question to someone who's seen hundreds of dentists spend their money and what they spend their money on. That's not to say that we're creeping in the transaction history. On the weekend. I'm bored got. Time for that. And I don't care but. If you know if you've watched the dentist. Dentists hundreds of them spend money over years and years of you'll have you'll you're just in much better position to either tell someone? Yes and here's what we can do or no but we gotta watch these other categories. Now, if you didn't know that, let's say a dentist went to the their friend next door, WHO's I dunno an employee sales employees. Printer Company. Okay. That seems like generic. Under mifflin printer like that they sell their printer salesman for sabre printers. And they say, yeah, i. we spend seventeen thousand dollars a month I think their neighbor would just. Be On. The floor. But I mean if you tell an advise without that seen dentists spend money for longtime again, it's the flight attendant. They're not shocked they're not freaking out like, okay. See the the advisers going to say, well, that's an interesting piece of data but let's look at these other pieces of data because that's really going to tell the story abstract where else is your money going? What's your savings rate? So anyway, spending a really fascinating piece that I don't think I mean no but I'm not sure they think about that as oh, that's a unique thing that really drives my financial planning a very different way because we only work with dentists. And we only hire people who want to work with dentists and we only build marketing for dentists and we only build systems and processes for dentists. So we learn about those are the only shows we go to those of the only you know events we attend we've built an entire citing to it's fascinating. So if dentists us that Matt, do I spend too much money? Well, there's one data that right? Well, what are you spend? It's sixteen five a month. Okay, well. One data point tells you that's kind of in line with average, but as a dental specific financial adviser you go I also know. What savings rates should accompany the income you're at and I know that because I only work with dentists and that's all I've seen people and what collections numbers you're going to have to see the profitability average profitability collect you're looking at your thinking about all these things. Yeah. There's all these things it's so because you're in a firm that only build systems to track now you can actually give a better answer than I think or yeah that sounds about right for your income but now you can go well, that's average to your peers but what's your? Savings rate and your income, your questions. Oh, you're making four hundred but your only saving twelve percent while something's too high and it could be your spending. Something's wrong there. Right and you just you'll. You'll have the tools necessary to answer the questions in more depth and give more context which least better answers at least a better decision making more rational less emotional decision making than if you don't see that stuff that often and you only stop there I think sixteen a lot I don't know sounds good sounds good. Yeah. Sounds about right. I'd like that. You're probably. Let's hit two more that I think are big differentiator dense want to know about their investments how to invest money how to grow their net worth. And so let's just strictly talk about dentists who are choosing to be public market investors. You know you're GONNA own stocks and bonds mutual funds and you're not 401k's in IRA's and brokerage council. How are Like our dentists different than the average person. When it comes to investment accounts and he? Put words in your mouth. How are they different when it comes to make an investment accounts and investing money in public markets stock market? Yeah. I. Mean. There's there's a couple of things. First of all the the timing like were there are in this kind of comes back to debt discussion as well like for them to even have extra money to invest I, think is going to be much different than their peers. Okay. So when they actually start, yeah, most dentists do start saving money later than their peers. Which? What does that mean? You got to save more than if you'd started earlier usually saving okay. Saving more and I just think again, it's a good point like they're seeing their peers investing with their hearing things from friends whoever they're investing. And the dentist is sitting here being like man I'm still. Waiting I'm still waiting I'm thinking about getting getting my business started or whatever the timing is. A is a big one. The other thing for me that comes to mind you might be thinking something different but. What I was thinking about, this was the dental space is a small world, right? Yeah. We're a tight family or tight tight family and things get kind of out there and you start to hear these different themes with investing. Whether it be. Right. Now, twenty twenty, it's day trading for a while some wild some options. So you start to like hear these themes I feel like I don't know I, don't think this is probably unique just dentistry but I feel like it is it's a small world. You start to hear the same kind of things they're hearing kind out in these. Events they're doing good point right. So I think that impacts them as well. They they feel drawn to these certain things. Matt. Stock tip type. So we talked about income and being the high. Income earners not is income high, but it's steady and it's consistent. Dentists are massive targets to be pitched. Absolutely. Yep. which again, if you are going to bring a deal, right someone comes to you with something that's non-conventional. And, the like do you want to invest in this? Can you give me money to start this company? It's ideal that you run that idea past someone who's seen it multiple times right? Like Matt have you ever seen dentists give a family member money for a startup. Yes. Always ends poorly have you seen a dentist? Have you seen dentists buy raw land for oil drilling. Have you seen dentists buy gold and have you seen a dentist with their brother-in-law coming to them about some options trading strategy? Always brother-in-law throw the but yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean that's the point is you want to run that idea past someone who's seen other dentists have unconventional. pitches on on things invest money. But back to investment accounts here's what's interesting about a dentist if you ask maybe an average The word I mean average I mean, if you ask a financial adviser CPA. About something like where to invest money right? If they if they're working with more average people not dentists. You might hear it's really common to hear something like well, you put your money in your 401k. And then we'll. There's nowhere else to put it after that. So I don't know you just pay down your debt or something. Yeah. Right. It's not a guess. Here's what I'm saying it's not normal most people. It's not normal for most people to have the kind of money leftover in rob dollar amounts that dentists to, and so we can tell you that the average dentist we work with ends up having probably half a dozen different investment account in their life. Yeah. Easily easily you're maxing out your four one K. pretty easy and then. There's Huns of most two seven more money than can fit in a 401k. Oh Yeah. So over a whole career, you'll have roths and regular IRA's you'll 401k's and profit sharing maybe we'll have a pension plan, but because you most likely have more money can fit in those things. You also have after-tax accounts and that's that's something that the average person doesn't have most people if they actually save money which a lot of Americans don't say money, they do it in their retirement plan at work, but it's a match, but they'll get to match, but it's not gonna be like, Oh, I, maxed it out got my match at work and I still have like. That's not normal, but it's very normal. That's like the standard for a dentist. So I think about this McMahon, we'll dentists end up having half a dozen or more investment accounts. By the time they're done working. All of those have different time horizons because also dentists owned businesses that can self for chunks of money provide liquidity right when they're done working, which means you don't have to access. A lot of these accounts right off the again coming back to the difference we said like you're a business owner you're investing in this private business that a typical average person out there that's working a normal job they. They don't have that opportunity not yet the invested in a private business no, it's not. It's not an opportunity. So for a lot of people who retire every account they've got. The clock starts right when they're done working. If you've got roth in an IRA in a 401k and then a savings account like all of those are fair game immediate because you need all the money for dentists half the time the I mean that's a fake statistic half the time. IDEA. The amount of times go with this an expression guys. Yeah. Half the time what you're whistle half the time until. That it's very common that a dentist gets to retirement sells a practice sells a building has a chunk of cash after tax money it's cash already they don't need the 401k they don't need the IRA lot of times. They don't even need the brokerage account and that provide extra five, ten, twenty years. You might have accounts you will never touch in your lifetime that are strictly going to be passed on for inheritance. Hey, maybe you sell your business, you work one day a week in your practice so. You're. GonNa. Get. To. Take those. Awesome. Phrase, to. I mean how do you still thunder? Odd, which I think you're. Still Thunder but I mean so think about that if you have all these different accounts with different time horizons, the average person does not have to face. It's decision that means you should invest them differently, and that means that you probably should be pushed to be a little uncomfortable by your financial adviser who's seen this hundreds of times. To be a little more aggressive than the account, they know they're not gonNA touch for a long time, and unless your financial adviser also has incredible amounts of data and tracking on you. They won't be able to tell you. You're not going to touch that account therefore, you should be more aggressive in it I he's got to know stuff about you. So she let's say you're. Just going to say what will what you elaborate on what you were just saying about the longevity of a career because I think this is this'll be our final point. I think this is makes a giant difference in financial planning for dentists. Again comes back to that the difference with their investment approach. We've talked about this a lot like what a cool profession it is. You can sell your private business that you've invested thirty years and you can step away from that business have a huge liquidity event. Not. Touch any of the money that you've been kind of transitioning from your human capital to your financial capital eating all you're saying, you don't have to touch that. You can work one day a week maybe a day and a half a week traveled aboard bore whenever you want and still make six figures. It just gives you such. An advantage. Right. But like you said, it also changes the way you approach investing total hair to the average person. Yeah. Totally. Does I think one of the greatest financial planning tools dentists have in their control is the ability to keep working. So I whenever I hear dentist making decisions that puts them either on a path of longevity. Or burn out I'm like man just err on the side of longevity. Even. If you're making fifty grand a year, which is a dentist is not hard to do. Even if you're making fifty grand a year some point in your sixties or seventies man that is a big amount of pressure. Taken off of your investment accounts and it could be the maker break for your future or the inheritance is you wanna pass along to your to your you know your heirs one day. So longevity in the career of dentistry it, it's a huge financial planning tool that should be considered if you're listening to this, you relate to this stuff right I co- yeah. I think I am pretty different in the people around me I want them to I want them to be the flight attendant that's been on thousands of flights before. So if I get nervous or bumpy or stressed or I'm worried or feeling insecure. Which is twenty twenty that was that was i. mean that's the Martin much the more. Anxious unsteady turbulent scared turn to and twenty twenty. US Okay Yeah then you want the person that's been on thousands of flights. Okay and that's that's the point is episode is that's the argument for why you hire a niche person do during niche person mean that there's hidden secrets he here's I think the the the problem. With. The mentality of this is sometimes people have this impression. With CPA's a lot with dentists hiring gentle CPA's will if a dental CPA does that mean, they know things other CPA's they're gonNA have yet secret. That's not the point. Maybe, yes, something's yes. They will know somethings but the point is they have context and experience that others don't. So when you go through all those times, you're you're running it past someone who's seen it way more times than you are the average person's will have seen it. So but to your point look, we're going to be financial advisers till we are old and dying and have no more whistles to wet. Basically, it's GonNa be a long time for you because you're GONNA be in peak physical condition. WE'RE GONNA LONGTIME I've hurt my back a lot lately. So I'm certainly. Question that in my in my fortieth year of this life but here's the deal. If you WANNA chat with us about this stuff, you've got questions the stuff you relate to to these topics in your finally like art I need I need somebody who's seen this stuff taking a thousand flights in my corner go to Dennis Advisors Dot Com Click on the book free consultation but you might get your out on the phone or someone even better this eighteen inches of getting someone better than me high people people are manning the phones were standing by ask Brian you if you want. But if you want to shoot us a question, you can go to advisors dot com slash group. That's our facebook group post a question there we do facebook lies we answer questions on the podcasts all the time. So Anyway, thanks for listening thanks for tuning in and for all the support map. Thanks for being here and you. Can. X. Time carry on.

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Early NFL TE Rankings Plus Fantasy Heartbreaks - Episode 004

Fantasy Football Overtime

27:27 min | 1 year ago

Early NFL TE Rankings Plus Fantasy Heartbreaks - Episode 004

"Welcome to the fantasy football overtime. Podcast I'm your host Jake with me as always is Matt Win Tyler. Holler back here. We are another episode tonight. We're going to be looking at the tight end. Rankings going over little fantasy heartbreakers and we got a little family feud style quiz boys. How you doing Joe doing amazing chilling hanging out with you guys talking some Football Matt. How're you doing? I am doing great episode number four. All Bell tight ends. Well historically I am terrible. Drafting tight ends but this year. It's going to be a different story. I've done my research. We're GONNA right are wrong from previous years. It's great to have you guys here so we're going to dive into the fantasy heartbreakers. What I want from you guys is. I want you guys to touch on the fantasy players. That broke your hearts over the years. There's so many on my from today's episode. My fantasy seasons have been. My heart has been broken so often so much stock such real estate into some players so many tears have come from the player. I'm about to talk all right. So give me your top three for me top three Doug. The Muscle Hamster. Martin drafted him in two thousand. Fourteen had a horrible year. Kept them into two thousand fifteen at a really good year captain sixteen and ever since he was absolutely horrible. Second for me. The Patriots running backs always seem to just crush soul and the third is again on running backs. It's Alvin Kamara and Murray have lan. The other one gets touched on. Have another one. The other one gets touchdown catalogs harvey. Abc's Matt let me hear about your fantasy heartbreaks. So I have all twelve different tight end stories. I could tell over the year but I'm GonNa Start with the worst one. Which was Dennis Pitta Baltimore Ravens Tight? End and twenty thirteen. Who's having a career year? The guy that had them also had another stud tight end at the time so I thought hey this could be my opportunity to finally go out and get a star tight. End Traded draft capital for the following season to get him was all excited. I actually was texting my friends making fun of them or the fact that I finally had a good tight end. The very first series. He dislocated his hip and he never played again. Oh it was terrible. I actually cried my next. One is Kevin Coleman. Ooh He was on my list but not in the top three. He's number two on my list. I had Kevin Coleman since he was drafted always had high hopes for them every single year. This is going to be as year. Now he's had them just at good enough value to keep him the following season. My Keeper Leagues. I don't even know I feel like he's been in the League for fifteen years. I think he's only been the by five pat him every single year. The Times you play 'em doesn't do anything like you said the Times you sit them scores a touchdown that devante Freeman. Tevin Coleman Split Holly Louis. I've lost a lot of sleep over that one. Amen thank you. My number. Three on the list came from last year. Juju Smith Schuster had an all star team lined up. This was a keeper league. This was my all in year. This is my time to shine time to get that name on the trophy. It was my time to get the name on the trophy draft Juju at the end of the first round. I couldn't believe you was still there. And a keeper. League was a lot of good players off the board. Juju fell right to me. I ran up to the board competently. Think I fist bumped couple times Juju. He was awful big. Ben went down in Juju irrelevant. I held onto him all season. Because it's do you have to? He broke my heart last year. I also jude joined the Juju heartbreak. Train we'll go over that any further detail number. Three for me was also from the year. Two thousand eighteen and this one isn't probably as like dramatic is what you're thinking but it was the Vance dance. I was hyping the van stance all of last year before the draft. This is going to be your breakout player of the year and boy did he break my heart. I was on that boat to sink really quick. Doing Vance Dan. I was doing the Vance dance for a week. And then I never vance danced again similar to our trade bull of two thousand eighteen. Yes Boo boo twenty eighteen. Rip At would be Trey Burton. My number two heartbreak was actually the year that I dropped. Rob Gronkowski to pick up Aaron Hernandez. Oops yes but you say you kill that Decision Con- forever R I P as well. Yes that was before. Rob Gronkowski was rob Gronkowski so Aaron Hernandez start off season hot. I had rob. He was still there. I dropped him. They flip flop roles. Aaron Hernandez did what Aaron Hernandez did and we don't need to touch out the rest. Would you say that one shot in the foot not PLAXICO burress? My number one. Fantasy heartbreak was released. How Cincinnati Jeremy Hill? He was so bad I picked him fourth overall that year and my season was off. I won one game that season thousand before I really started doing my research. Yes that was nice. Feel so good now as nice to get that to get over those heartbreaks. Thanks guys tyler. Sounds like you had a little bit of a game for us this week. I do have a fun little game for us here. It's GONNA be around tight end since this episode is about tight ends and it's GonNa be tight ends with the most receiving yards in their career. So are you saying same? As the last episode words franchise or just top ten all time top ten all time so okay. They can both play for the same franchise. Although I doubt any doubt that happens anywhere. Never know. Never know anything's possible like Kevin Garnett. Sure the way it's GonNa work is we'll flip a coin to see who goes first and we'll play until you have three strikes and we'll just alternate back and forth. Okay let's do it right. Sticking with heads that was incorrect. It's tails tails never fails. How do you not know this? It's tails always all right. Jake your first up here okay. So top ten fantasy fantasy top ten tight end yardage of all time what we're going for. Correct all right. Let's go with Tony. Gonzalez Tony Gonzalez is number one. All time receiving yards over fifteen thousand a lot of yards. Let's take the next one off the board of Rob Gronkowski. I don't know if I would say quite easy with. He was tied number ten. Jason Witten Jason. Witten tight end number. Two let's go with gates. That is a really good on number. Three let's go with Kellen winslow. Won't I thought that would have been a good? It's a good one. He's number twelve. Oh I got one more thing or wait. So we're still going right. We're so three. Strike Guy Shannon. Sharpe tight end number four. I am all out of ideas. Jeremy shockey while kingdom. Yeah all right so you have to. Strikes Matt has zero zero? I'm I'm out of even guesses. Let's go bubba. Franks while Gump shrimp on your mind or what. I'm okay all right. Let's go with Zach being the top ten. We said Jay current on that win. Because I literally don't even have another guess completing out the list a Gonzalez in Gates Shannon Sharpe at four had Greg Olsen at five Ozzie. Newsome played seventy eight to ninety. Jackie Smith played sixty three to seventy eight. Jimmy Graham at number nine and Gronkowski at ten to round it out other one. We should have been able to Jimmy Graham. Yeah see and that's all right thought Zakar. It was I thought he would have more yards. Graham hasn't been a big yardage guy as of late. Seventy eight hundred all right so let's jump into our consensus tight. End Ranking how this is GonNa work is similar to the quarterback rankings that we did on the previous episodes. So if you haven't listened to that one can make sure you go back and check it out. What we did is ranked. Our top tight ends one through fifteen. We'll go over them in order and if anyone was higher low on a particular player will stop and talk a little bit about. Why but number one was coming in at Travis Kelsey. Let's hear something here. Chief's Fan boy looking at you well. I don't think I have to sell Travis. Kelsey too hard. He's extremely durable hundred and thirty six targets last season. Ninety seven receptions twelve hundred yards five touchdowns plays in the best offense in football. We all had Kelsey at number one. I don't even think it was close. You can't go wrong landing Travis Kelsey on your team. Nope that was a clear number. One for all of us Also a clear number two with George. Kill out of the forty niners. Don't need to say a whole lot about him. He's just a monster after the catch when he gets the ball in his hands breaking tackles. Yeah Kiddo is a consensus number two. We all had them at number two hundred seven targets in fourteen games last season. He had eighty five receptions over a thousand yards and five touchdowns as well might have actually surpassed Kelsey in quite a few of those metrics had played all sixteen games. Yeah so do we think this is like a one a one B similar to Lamar homes or do you think it's a clear one into I think it's a clear one two. I think Kelsey is going to go one in almost every draft it you can justify taking kit over. Kelsey just because there's a lot of different receivers and weapons in Kansas City but like I've said all the weapons and all the episodes I want is much Kansas City chiefs. Offense is I can get so I would say go. Kelsey number one absolutely. Yeah I think it shows an our rankings that we both had them both one and two that these are the clear wanted to instead about one a one B yeah. I think it's Chelsea Tier One tier two tier three moving down from that coming in at number three tight end was Mark Andrews We do not all agree tyler. Actually Heads Zach Ertz at number three men. I both agree that Mark Andrews was the third tight end. Matt what are you got so I'm really really high on Mark Andrews. A season a ravens had one hundred eighty targets. Too tight ends a year ago. Andrews was a huge part of that in ninety eight targets. Sixty four receptions. Eight hundred fifty yards in the big one here ten touchdowns. I see him being the GO-TO in the red zone once again. Eight hearst Outta town which is twenty five percent of the targets Nick Boyle had the other twenty five percent of the targets but I actually see a majority of that vacancy going towards Mark Andrews. Now that he is the established tight end in Baltimore. I think you can absolutely make case for Zach Ertz being number three but that is why I am leaning towards Mark Andrews. I'm expecting big things. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually exceeds his ten touchdowns from last season. Those are all really points The reason why I have Erz higher is because I have Andrews regressing on the touchdowns. I'm not sure if Tennessee sustainable there. I'm hoping the Ravens get some wide receiver help just to take some of that burden off. Andrews boil sliding in their solid tight end to for them is GONNA up from twenty-five percent but the big thing is just the amount of times eagles target their tight ends two hundred and forty times last year. Expect urge to get close to a thousand yards in twenty twenty with close to one hundred receptions just under yeah I love Jacquards is well. I had them coming in at number four last season. Yeah yet one hundred and thirty five targets. The only thing I don't like is is not that far behind him. He had eighty seven targets only thirty reception difference. Three hundred yard different so even though they target their tight ends fifty times more than any other team last year. I still just think that split is a little closer than it should be Zach Ertz to. He's in the final year of his contract. I mean if Erz was to get injured at all Godart steps in and I can see them. I can see urge being a prime candidate to be traded. I just really think. Philly's going to want to see what they have and got her even more this season they have and that's what alternately pushed me down to number four for him. Yeah that's same with me. I think it's going taking a little bit more of urges targets even if he does stay healthy so it's going to be even closer to that fifty fifty split and coming in at number five. Darren Waller man what she got so daring waller had a phenomenal season. Last year. He had one hundred seventeen targets he caught ninety passes for eleven hundred yards. It came out of nowhere to I. Didn't even know to look this up. Waller played in Baltimore in Twenty Fifteen and twenty sixteen. He didn't even play in two thousand seventeen. He went to Oakland in two thousand eighteen and had six total receptions. And then look what he did. Last year he went undrafted in virtually every single league. So it was pretty incredible what Darren while I brought to the table last year. Super incredible coming out when I initially did my projections this year. I actually had them higher than here. But then relooking at the Oakland offense especially with getting our boy henry rugs yes. Yeah those targets I think are going to be a little bit. More SPREAD OUT THIS YEAR. Kind of dropping waller a little bit down my projections. I was GONNA ask if you guys are worried about rug stealing. Any of Waller's work. I have them. I mean obviously he's GonNa steal some of it because there's just not enough passes to go around and that offense but are you at all worried about rugs stealing a large portion of waller's I'm not. I still have all baller getting ninety receptions for me. It's just can waller repeat what he did last season like. Look at what we just talked about. He had six total receptions over the last two seasons coming into this year coming into last year so he obviously burst onto the scene. I'm buying the hype I would love to have. Darren Waller my team. Especially in for all the receptions. He gets but there is definitely reason to be skeptical that he can repeat. I think no one's doubting his talent is just the off. The field questions is why he didn't make a large impact all those years and I it seems at least that. He's corrected some of those demons in his personal life. Well great thing they just went to Las Vegas. That won't bring demons. Ellis Corona virus is GonNa do some good for the raiders franchise after all keeping out of trouble coming in at tight end number six. Is Tyler higby meant? What do you got on Tyler? I actually love Tyler. Picked them up last year and he was an absolute beast on the stretch from week. Thirteen on once ever got injured in his final. Five Games. Forty three receptions on fifty-six targets five hundred twenty two yards and two touchdowns that's over just the last five games talked about it last year. I absolutely loved drafting players. That have strong finish to the season that seemed like they're in sync with the offense. There's I mean Gerald Everett is still there but they proved higby proved with a better tight. End is we're GONNA see a lot of tyler higby early and often in two thousand twenty. Some of the things coming into my higby projections is ever at coming back. A little bit scary. Because we only had sixty nine receptions on the entire year and whatever Matt said there what was it like forty five. The last few games in the last five games so yeah. That's crazy wasn't wasn't used much at the beginning of the year. So one thing that kind of does keep them where he is on the projections is how are they gonNA utilize higby and Everett? Yeah my rebuttal to that would be that. They are definitely switching to more of eleven personnel. Which is too tight ends on the field at all times getting away from that three wide receiver sets featuring so heavily in the beginning of last year was brandin cooks leaving town. I think you're gonNA see higby and Everett on the field a lot together which. Nfl is going to give it some more targets. But it's going get higby all those targets that he missed the beginning of the year coming in at number seven. Was Evan Ingram Tyler. What are you GonNa Evan for? Ingram all about staying healthy only played eight games last year. What are we going to get this year out of him? Yeah there's a lot of those feed that offense. Daniel Jones like spread the ball around. But Tyler hit it right on the head if he stays healthy he's definitely going to be a top seven tight end. I don't think there's any doubt about it but I don't see him staying healthy because he hasn't been able to no-one's dylan the talent there with Ingram. Keep saying it's all about the health. Reportedly the giants did come out and say that they're pretty unhappy with his inability to stay on the field. So it'd be interesting to see if they would look at considering trading him or if that just means nothing or whatever that is but they did come out and say that. So it's it's interesting on the less. Let's move onto tight end number eight hunter Henry Matt. What do you got for? Hunter Hunter's very similar to Evan. Ingram when he is healthy. He's great but he's also very injury. Prone a huge fan of the situation at quarterback between either Justin. Herbert Tyrod Taylor. Like we talked about last week. You Still Got Mike Williams Keenan Allen Austin out of the backfield. I wouldn't mind having Hunter Henry. I think you can definitely do worse than that. But not very excited about getting hunter Henry Mit. Either I'm the little guy. Hunter Henry is just not a good situation. Tyrod Taylor's only thrown for twenty touchdowns is the most he's ever thrown four and a season. So if you take into consideration Hunter Henry Mike Williams Keenan Allen in Austin who is going to get some receiving touchdowns. I just don't see Hunter Henry. Getting above five maybe six touchdowns and at the time position touchdowns as what's make or break for fantasy so that's why. I'm a little bit more down on him. Plus the injury scares obviously. He hasn't played deal a fall season. These always missing time. So factor that in with the bad situation with tyrod presumably being the quarterback is just not a good mix for me. I kind of like a tight end. Role did get more targets in tyrod type offense just somebody that security blanket there. I mean when it comes to the red zone not tyrod is going to be looking into run. If if the verse read is an open tyrod is going to scramble. And it's there he's going for it. He's still a good athlete even at his age like he's going to rush for touchdowns that ultimately should've gone probably two hundred hundred hundred but I just see tyrod running into many of those. The tomake Hunter Henry True Titan on. Let's move on to nine. What do we got? We had jared cook at number nine. Jared Cook is just your your work in Man Titan. Nothing flashy in a powerful offense. Yeah if you wait on tight end. Jared Cooks on the board and you just want a safe option. A tight end. That WON'T KILL. Ya but isn't GonNa win you too many weeks. Jared cooks your man. Jared Cook is number ten for me. You can definitely do worse. But I I'M NOT DRAFTING. Jared Cook inside of the top ten rounds if you slide to there than sure but. I am not going to go out on my way to draft. Jared Cook completely agree with that coming in at number ten. We have Austin Hooper once again. I'm Kinda the Logan Hooper here. I just think it's because there's so many targets to go around in that Cleveland. Offense what do you say? A lot of mouths to feed would use the phrase a lot of most feed in in Cleveland yet. There's way too much going on in the Cleveland. Offense between Odell Jarvis. Landry you got cream. Hunt Out of the backfield. Nick Chubb they also just exercise the fifth year on David Joke who rate year last year and Atlanta. But I don't know if that's going to translate to fantasy success here in two thousand twenty. I am probably Avoiding Austin. Hooper in fantasy draft. Yeah with Kevin Fancy coming from Minnesota. They RAN MINNESOTA. Last year ran the most eleven personnel sets in the entire. Nfl and I have a feeling. That's the fancy is going to keep that when he goes to Cleveland with WHO and Hooper so the ladder. The tight end targets are going to be split pretty evenly. Run out the top fifteen tight end rob Gronkowski. Tj Hopkinson Mike. You Seki Norfolk in Dallas scattered in that order tyler. What do you got for us on Rob Gronkowski had all the rob I definitely took this ranking down for us here J. Cad Rob at eight Matt at eleven and I had to kind a pencil them into my rankings at sixteen interesting so I just want to kind of hear your thoughts around why ranking Gronk so high well first off sixteen is offensive to the Great Rob Gronkowski the name or like his skills right now everything okay. I mean he took a year off is going to be healthy. He might have his health back. We Know How good rob. Gronkowski can be if he can stay healthy. We don't know what to expect in a Tampa Bay offense but we've seen him with Tom Brady for his entire career. So I'm buying into the hype a little bit but Rob Gronkowski is GonNa go sooner than eleven at the tight end position so I don't see myself getting rock is gonNA take him earlier. There's going to be folks like me that have gronk higher than they probably realistically should. I like rock coming into the Bruce. Arians offense slimmer lighter and healthier Bruce Arians already said they doesn't want Gronk to bulk up to his bigger size because I don't think they're gonNA use as a frontline blocker like patriots. Did all those years. I think they're gonNA split Gronk like another wide receiver. Let them beat up on some linebackers in corners if they decide or safeties wherever they decided to put up he's GonNa be bigger than them regardless. So there's going to let him run Shaw lettuces and not try to use him so much as a bully like the Patriots did. There's no denying Tom Brady. Gronkowski amazing dual hundred percents but in football. There's only one ball for all these all these players. So you have Godwin Evans. They just got tyler. Johnson Justin Watson Cameron -brate OJ. Who knows what's going to happen there. Klaus von and Roggio Roggio Peyton barbs. Oh a lot of people there. Box only target their tight ends eighteen percent of the time over the last three years and last year. They through like an incredible six hundred. Thirty Times guessing. That's going to regress some down to just because Brady is more accurate. They're not gonNA need to throw as much down to like five hundred ninety times. So that's only one hundred twelve targets for Gronk and Cameron break so if few gets a good portion of those. It's only eight targets. So fifty seven receptions. He's going to get a hundred and forty points at his best. So tight end eleven. I'm just not buying into the Tampa Bay hype train around Rob Gronkowski. Bruce Arians came out is going to use as weapons. He wants to be a lean. Mean fighting machine. Bruce Arians really hasn't used as tight ends. The only place he did was I mean Arizona didn't have any tight ends arguably and then Pittsburgh he had heath Miller the thing is is it. GonNa be Arians decision or is Tom Brady on the place. That's a safety valve could be. It's just a completely different than a check offense. Yeah I think there's just a lot of unknowns with ultimately we're all going to be hands off because like you said he's just going to go to high because of his name value but I think he's going to be better than your sixteenth rink again. That's just offensive. I'm just trying to let our listeners know. Don't buy into the GRONK train. I think it's wasting a pick in the seventh round or something like that. The last person I wanted to talk about was Dallas Goddard. Who had landing at number fifteen talked about him briefly earlier. But just a recap. If you're in a keeper League go and Get Dallas Gutter. Erz is in the last year of his contract. I see him not being what the Eagles next year. I think God or is be a start. I think he's going to be the guy next year but for this year especially if I was to go down. Got Her instantly steps into a top five tight end in fantasy purposes. All about taking a late round flyer on her and making sure that your stashing him for next season. Because I'm quite confident. He is going to be the guy next year if not this year. I'm all over. The only thing is he's not going to be a late round flyer I think people are GonNa grab him because they run so many two tight end sets. They target the Eagles Target Titans two hundred forty times. So he's going to get GRONK GONNA get for targets the the tight end to yet. It's a fair point. He had eighty seven targets last year. Had Fifty eight receptions six hundred yards so you might not be able to get them nearly as late as any other backup tight end in the league but Goddard is going to go later than some of the starters. I think you gotta go out and get it this year. That pretty much wraps up our tight ends. I think you're what are you guys? Just thoughts on tight ends when you're drafted him where you're going. I look at tight end like the quarterback position. I'm not spend the capital on getting one of the top dogs. And at that point you might as well just waits until the end of the draft to get a starter. I mean you can get someone like Hayden hearst with probably your last pick in the draft and that guy is walking into ninety five targets in the Atlanta offense. If you're drafting Kelsey Keitel Andrews. That's as good as a flyers. You can take on a tight end. Yeah I'M NOT GONNA pay the capital. That's going to cost to get a travis. Calcio George kittle. I would love to bite on someone like Mark Andrews Adaren Waller or slightly cheaper tyler. Higby so it really just depends on value in. Who's there so? Don't go into the draft saying I'M GONNA take tight end in this round. Make sure that you're paying attention to what's happening. Don't be afraid to start a run. If you're in round five and the tight end that you really want is still on the board. We'll the odds are they're not going to get back to you in around six so go out and get your guy late round tight ends like Jake said Hayden hearst. That might be Jake's call of twenty twenty right there it is. I will put that on the board lockdown down. Write it down. Whatever you WANNA call it. Hidden hearst is my tight end guy for twenty twenty all I gotTa do is draft them to ruin that pretty quickly for for all of my fantasy team sake. Please stay away from hate and harassment. All right that's going do it for tonight's episode mixture you guys follow us on twitter at F. F. O. T. podcast like in subscribe on Google and Apple podcast and spotify stay tuned our next episode where we rank the running back. Position cannot wait. Running back. Position is my favorite a lot of variability. Thanks for listening. Thank you guys by deuces. Sinar base later.

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Playoff Preview and Strategy Episode 045

Fantasy Football Overtime

36:48 min | 4 months ago

Playoff Preview and Strategy Episode 045

"Welcome to the fantasy football over time. Podcast i'm your host jake with me. Always are tyler. Hollerbach and matt win playoff time playoffs. We're talking about playoffs. It is that time of the year. It is the fantasy playoffs. They need for that intro. Tyler and matt will give you credit for that one too but you guys were here already like it just seems like the season just started. We were talking about covid. Would there be a season and we're in the playoffs bass time of the fantasy year right now. You're not in the playoffs if you made it of course this is what you pay for. We're here it's finally playoff all the marbles all the benjamins or franklins or lincoln's or even just pride pride maybe there's a trophy trophies are good. Did you guys make the playoffs in your big leagues. Yes so my my two biggest ones. I made it i'm looking at potentially ada eight depending on matchup. It goes tuesday this guy. It's more most likely seven out of eight and the one that i'm missing is going to be our podcast. Same i five out of six. Good year i am set to be the number one seed in my big saint cloud league so i am excited. I get a stress free week with a buy in week fourteen. So i'm looking forward to that. I just need my guys to stay healthy not at my big leagues have a by eighteen playoff interest like yeah sure. Make sense my big-league. I've had their one seed wrapped up for two weeks now. So i haven't had to worry really about that for some time. I've just been trying to pick the way pick up players here and there. It's it's been nice by week to speaking of like playoff time. Do either of you like operate any different strategies compared to kinda like regular season fantasy. i do. There's a couple of things that i like to do differently in the playoffs that i would never do during the regular season. The first one is. I like to look ahead to the next week for defenses so week fifteen for example the rams are owned in seventy percent of leagues. They got the jets at home. So i am going to roster the rams deion in many leagues as i can and save them for week fifteen. I would never have an extra defense in any of my leagues except for right now because it could definitely help you going into the semi-finals. Yeah i try to get a set it and forget it defense. If that exists like pittsburgh d you know them you would never think to stream. I got seattle and most of my defensive leagues. So i'll probably run them through the through the playoffs. But i i do a similar strategy. If i can carry two defenses if similar matchups but i just got lucky seattle. Having a pretty cake match up to the playoffs. Yeah same thing here definitely try to look ahead on defense. I think the other thing. I try to do but jake. I think you've kind of mentioned this one. We were discussing beforehand. Typically i don't carry a wide receiver or maybe one wide receiver on my bench in normal years. But i think with covid that might change us here. But i really try to narrow it down to running backs on my bench. I let a lot of fringe players go But with kovin. I'm trying to hold play. You know players in the past that might be borderline are probably staying on my team because of covid. You just never know what can happen. Dj more curtis samuel put a covid list this week. you know. you don't know if their status for sunday like that type of thing can happen at any time so this year. I'm taking a little bit different strategy. I think even like below fringe type players like sammy watkins. Or kyle rudolph those players that there's no sense in having them on your bench. They're never gonna play right. Yeah i get rid of those types of players. Pick up some depth that running back or look ahead an pick up that that defense for week. Fifteen other thing i like to do is going into the playoffs. The backup quarterback patrick mahomes in almost every one of my league. So i haven't needed to have a backup quarterback all year but i decided to go in and pick up. Derek carr was the common name that i found on the waiver wire and the reason why like to have a backup quarterback is because if you're star goes down the rest of your league is going to be very aware of that and especially if you don't have much fab left. They're gonna do everything they can to buy. Any of the quarterbacks worthwhile so make sure you're not going into a semi-final week having to start like a to a right. It's actually funny that you brought up coward off. Because i've had to start him last two weeks because i've had mark andrews on the cova list so it was very fitting name with my current situation so rudolph will not believing my roster right now. He's just a tight end. that's always on the waiver. wire yes absolutely. It's just funny. Because i haven't been in a few leagues because of my mark andrews situation and you're going to make the playoffs and eight of eight leagues with kyle kyle rudolph last week. He did great this week. He put up a goose egg that he was going to go off against jacksonville actually streamed him in a league to yeah. Two targets zero catches. Thanks any other strategies fellas besides win. Yeah that's the that's the biggest regius score more points than your opponent and stay like that. Stay healthy this year especially just trying to avoid any injury. Any question marks. Like that's i don't know i. I don't wanna talk anything up to chance this year trying to be as diligent as i can. You guys let's jump into some fringe players at each of the positions for the playoffs. Let's do it all right. Let's start with quarterbacks. I have a list of some players. That i kinda wanna talk about. I want you guys opinions on if you see any value in them if you were going to be starting them if you're going to cut them kind of where you're at and i want to start with the shawn watson. Who is the number six quarterback and fantasy on the season. Averaging twenty-seven fantasy points per game over the last three weeks you obviously drafted him to be the guy but his playoffs schedule on the road against chicago. Indie over the next two weeks obviously just lost willfuller suspended. Pd's what are your thoughts on the shawn watson over the next couple of weeks it's tough match-up that's number one and number two defense against quarterback both of those defenses around the giving up fifteen fantasy points per game so if you can win your league with fifteen points as what you should probably expect out of the sean. I think what the combination of fuller being suspended. It's a tough call. I think there's a you can probably pick up like mitch trubisky who has a very very favorable schedule and play at least for week one. Yep and that's where you. And i are gonna disagree on our strategies because mitch trubisky will not see my rosters in less. Its covid related. But no i'm not overly worried about shawn watson. He does have the bears the first week. The playoffs stafford gesture threaded. The bears first off and he has no receivers is receiving yards about equivalent. To what does shawn watson is working with. sean adds elements. He adds yards with his legs. He's gonna score you rushing touchdowns. He actually should have had a lot bigger gaming. It's any than he did. He get a fumble at the goal line. You know that could have been passing or rushing touchdown there that would have gotten them in that twenty point range last week. So i'm not worried about to shawn watson but i understand. Your concerns are the next in my opinion set and forget especially in these playoffs as qb number. Seven on the season. tom brady. He has a dream fantasy schedule. He's got minnesota atlanta and detroit over the next three weeks of his schedule. Yeah you said. I think probably the second easiest behind herbert set it and forget it. Yeah absolutely not. Only tom brady but we can probably set it. Forget it mike. Evans chris godwin gronk unless you have you know waller kelsey whatever at tight end but gourock antonio brown. Do we going to say where you guys out within. Twenty at these br. That's way too like there's way too much spread around. There is say. Stick with the top three evans. Godwin gronk i'd love to be able to play. Ab another team but not not in this one. The good news about these three teams. They're all teams that can score so minnesota in detroit. They should all be outs. As opposed to like if you play the jets where you know. The jets are score three points. So i mean tom brady. Should've monster games. And it's just a matter of which receivers do the damage. But if you have to play antonio brown i think it could be a lot worse but i. I'm pretty worried about antonio brown with all of the other mouths to feed in that offense. Yeah i'd put him in. What same conversation is like an angler. Yeah antonio brown probably the player. I would the one wide receiver. I would play my bench like having my bench just in case something happened to any of those three even if it was wrong that went out right. I know it's off topic. But what about roadshow like is not a bad run defense anymore like they are legit defense now for whatever reason the when. They fired their defensive head coach. They became a defensive team. Minnesota is kind of a mixed bag on the ground. You don't really know they've shut down some good running backs they've gotten exposed others like what are your thoughts on rojo in the playoffs against atlanta. I think there's action against minnesota. He's probably started minnesota's just running running the mail against the running back so i don't mind him there as your rb to. Are you know playing in the flex. I'm i'm fine starting on all three of those matchups. I think they're going to be high scoring games. I think there's gonna be a lot of yards and points sides of the ball. So unless i have multiple options better than roggio. I'm i'm good rock with him. I can start them and more than likely. Don't yeah right it is. He's a name that he's kind of on that he's not a household name where he's like kamara like no matter. What the matchup. You're gonna just play. He's considered like a fringe in the running back. Community like a melvin. Gordon asked they be in the same conversation but real quick to lenny bench. Him get rid of him. Don't get rid of them. Put on your bench over lenny. All day yeah go tyler. You talked about justin herbert a little bit so his last two games. He has looked like a rookie. Quarterback is one touchdown versus three turnovers. Only twenty two fantasy points in those two weeks combined. But he's got atlanta las vegas and denver coming up denver's pretty tough match-up but weeks fourteen and fifteen atlanta in las vegas. How do you feel about justin. Herbert love him. His hair has grown back a little bit and denver even scare me. They're a bottom eight against the quarterback. They somehow find a way to shut. Mahomes down like mahomes has had two of his worst games of the season against denver. One was a snow game but the one just this week. I don't own homes doesn't have the best success against them. You still threw for over three hundred yards touchdowns but he did. They didn't count kills right. Yeah drop phantom touchdown. The only thing that concerns me really vote. Herbert is four rush. Attempts in the last three games like bad. I don't like because he was adding a lot on the ekeler's back right. And that's the part i was just going to say his ekeler's back like caps. Herbert ceiling like can still put up thirty. Just office passing. Yeah absolutely but it's going to be tougher. How because he's not running as much in it and like i said it limits. His his upside. You know where mostly you probably got herbert lates. You might be run into quarterbacks where you have a herbert a lamar jackson like that conversation might be a lot closer now. Be based off of herbert not really running. Yeah especially lamar going up against cleveland jacksonville. Fourteen and fifteen would have that but herbert's hair is growing back that's his. That's all his skill and talent strength back inside scouting report herbert it. He sucked really. Yeah well those last week quarterbacks we just talked about you're more than likely starting all three of them. I'm going to say a couple names. That are more on the fringe. And i want you guys to tell me which one you like the most of these four cam. Newton kirk cousins. Derek carr or jared goff jared goff day easy jake. Yeah i would. I would lead goff out of those as well. You just can't trust cam. Like yeah he's gonna run the ball but he has a tougher schedule to he goes against the rams and miami and buffalo. Yeah cam has brutal schedule. He's only thrown five touchdowns all season and he hasn't eclipse the hundred yard passing mark and either of his last two games and then you said kurkin there. He goes against tampa bay chicago. Yeah get rid of them. Yeah i agree. I would go jared goff out of those four. He's coming off a big game against arizona. Went for three hundred and fifty yards and a touchdown you also ran a touchdown in. I don't know how i feel about his week. Fourteen matchup against new england all but he does get the jets in seattle and fifteen and sixteen. So if i can find a different option in week fourteen. I'd feel very confident. Pivoting back to gough in week. Fifteen new england's tough against the quarterback position. Yeah look what they just did to herbert. Herbert was seen ghosts. Casper was everywhere he looked. What are we going for running backs all right so backs. I want to talk about three running backs at. You're obviously starting no matter. What dalvin cook james robinson and derrick henry but bring these three up for a different reason dalvin cook and james robinson have arguably the two hardest remaining schedules for running backs knowing what. You're starting all three of them. Of course they're all top four running backs. But i kind of want to ask you guys what you see out of cook in robinson. Going forward in the next three weeks in the playoffs. They're gonna prove who they are this year because both of them had a very soft schedule up. Until this point i would. I lie for the temper. My expectations wouldn't surprise me if both of them finished rb two. I think they're both safe in the sense of volume. There's gonna run volume like they both are workhorse running backs that even if they have a tough match up if that team gets at the goal line you're looking at you know. Three potential carries at the goal line. So like you said like there's just set it. forget it. And i'm not even really tempering. My expectations too much on them. I'm not expecting a huge breakout. But like i feel confident. Getting in fifteen points out of them. Yeah i think that's a fair number. I think we can expect anywhere from thirteen. To twenty on average out of both of dalvin cook and james robinson robinson is recorded over double digit fantasy points in all twelve weeks. He's only running back in football. That has done that. So he's been extremely safe but we're going to see kind of what he's made of when he goes up against tennessee. Baltimore in chicago But yeah obviously starting both of them. And the reason why i bring up. Derrick henry is because he has a fantasy football owners dream. He's got jacksonville. Detroit in green bay. Three bottom five run defenses to end the season. I am predicting that. The number one player owned on the highest percentage of championship teams and fantasy is derrick. Henry thing that would be the second straight year in a row. So i'm pretty sure he did that last year in the playoffs to like they're just beast. He's supposed to do that week. Thirteen to he did. Yeah and he. He didn't also packers d. Maybe they're getting a little bit better or is it just. The eagles are really really bad. Eagles are terrible. 'cause they shut down miles sanders hard. Tyler had draftkings lineup. That was absolutely dominating. The only player that didn't pull his weight was tyler derrick. Henry no hard feelings about two hundred and ten point draftkings finished in the top one percent and i could tell you cannery our when we mentioned his name. How much do you think that cost to. Roughly the kim having like a normal game. What do you think that what have pumped up your pay from one hundred dollars If i would have had davante adams in there it would have been hundred thousand. Jesus sorry cannery little sour feelings over here. Hindsight's twenty twenty. It's crazy how you can have one minor tweak on a draftkings lineup and it makes a difference of one hundred thousand dollars or one hundred dollars at fertile so touch on miles sanders to. What are we doing with him. Going forward like is he still set it. Forget it is he a rb to slash flex with some upside is he. Bendable like honestly. I don't think you can bench them. Because who i mean. Is there any way you have two to three running backs on your squad that you're gonna play over him but let me name three running backs. It'd better than him. Lashing taylor wilkins and hines all three. All three of them over san giovanni bernard cj ham. Like you name a million players last week. But we don't care about last week who care about going forward and i. I don't know i'm not excited about miles sanders. But i don't know if i can get myself to actually sent them. I can't play them against new orleans like the top guy hinds. I'm worried the whole offense Goddard is the only player on that offense that i feel comfortable putting in a lineup. Sure i'm a little worried about god or to zach ertz being back and the switch to jalen hurts to. I don't know that's not official yet. But it's looking like it. I'm worried about that offense to. I don't know i just don't know if i have the kahane's to sit miles sanders in the playoffs. Yeah i don't. I don't know if i do either like i haven't been a league and i'm torn on what to do but like this is why we're having this conversation. Help me to tell me guys. What am i supposed to do. I'm still starting miles sanders over now minds week fourteen. I would probably start. Nyheim hines over him. A going up against houston but we fifteen. Indy is against pittsburgh. I'm definitely not starting him against pittsburgh week. Fourteen fourteen decision which one week fourteen. I might go hines. Are you going heinz. I don't want this. Might ogle hines over sanders in week. Fourteen okay thank you bye week. Fifteen against houston. What's worry about. We are clock next week. Yeah i looked. Vegas is week. Fourteen houston fifteen pittsburgh's sixteen. Yeah you'll figure it out jake. I got some more running backs. I wanna talk about. Would you guys rather have kareem hunt. Or ezekiel elliott. The rest of the way to make it a little easier. Kareem hunt schedule coming up. Is the ravens. Giants jets ezekiel elliott's got cincinnati. San fran in philadelphia so for hunt. I mean the ravens are atop against the running backs a fantasy points per game against running backs. Giants are in the middle. I'm not liking. What cream is hunt is doing there. I would probably rather just take the upside of zeke and the whole dallas figures it out. It's tough like especially week. Fourteen against cincinnati and then i'd probably swap hunt the rest of the way. Yeah you're running. Zeke week fourteen for sure week week. Fifteen the us the giants. I like hunt because the giants struggle against pass catching running backs. And what was the what they got the jets in week. Sixteen zeke's philadelphia philadelphia. Both yeah probably running hunt again on that one to one hundred percent running hunt. Yeah yeah hunt. Had three straight games under ten fantasy points. And that's largely in part to nick chubb and fully healthy and looked good to how and they just stop throwing the ball to hunt for whatever reason he still in on goal line carries like. He's still getting red zone packages. They were running both on field at the same time in the red zone which is cool but then baker through. It's an offensive lineman so that was really not cool i. I don't know what to think of hunt like. There's not throwing the ball. Once they start throwing a to them is safe. Pr floor comes back. Then he comes a lot more viable. But i don't know if they're just going to let baker Cook here agree though. I'm elliot in week fourteen. And then i am going with kareem hunt and week. Fifteen and sixteen elliott's only had one game over double digits since week six. Actually you just you brought this up. And i didn't think of this until just now but playoff strategy. Keep an eye on the weather. Oh absolutely now that we talk about cleveland. Link there in. Cleveland and there is any inkling of like rain or wind. I am benching anybody that passes or catch a ball. You're passionate about that. Yeah because have you seen cleveland's weather games they're tearing some really bad ones and it was three weeks inner relief like i'm running nick chubb. Obviously you're starting to trouble. He'd be the only person i would see on the field because he is gonna get thirty five touches and baker might throw it six times maybe seven. Maybe to a lineman. One of them will be to alignment all right. You guys last two running backs. i wanna talk about. Melvin gordon and cam akers melvin gordon over. His last five games has had four points. Four points nineteen points three points in fifteen points so he has been boomer kind of all over the place. Can he be trusted against carolina buffalo and the chargers. Yes yes and it's funny that you brought them up. Because i was going to to and for good reasons like you said like absolutely you can trust. Melvin gordon and i felt weird being the person i was about to say that because the dog on him all year. But absolutely like melvin. Gordon if you have them you wrote them to the playoffs like good for you might be rewarded here. But he has some good match ups. I like it yeah. He's been your doom like eighteen weeks a row and there hasn't been eighteen weeks. That tells you how much you hate him. Yeah absolutely nothing personal. Melvin but yeah looking forward to the playoffs against kansas city to he looked significantly better than phillip lindsay which is pretty telling especially at this time in the season lindsay still hampered by that injury. So yeah. I'm fire. Not melvin gordon and then cam akers you guys don't look right now. But he is emerging three straight games with a touchdown twenty two touches last week. Is that what you call it. Emerging i think so three straight three straight weeks with a touchdown and twenty two touches. He's got new england. New york jets in seattle. He still in a committee. Yes your committee. You're not gonna play him against the jets or the seahawks. I would claim against the jets. Said new england new england and seok new england seahawks. Yeah the jets play. But yeah i don't know like henderson is still a thing like the. It's still a committee. I don't think he's fully ran away with this job. But he's looked better. and yes. He scored the touchdown. But can you rely on it. I think week fifteen. If you need to start cam akers you definitely can against the jets. But i'm not starting to against new england in week fourteen. I think you're missing one very important running back here. And who's my league winner. You've held onto him all year long just for the playoffs. And he guesses christian. Mccaffrey well he probably wanna now. David montgomery There you go even montgomery good right now. He's getting targets and pretty easy playoffs schedule. Houston minnesota jacksonville dude. He's like a top seven running back the rest of the whale. Yeah like david montgomery like. He's without to recall in two three to five targets a game. I ki- super-safe. The stars are aligned for david. Montgomery right now. We'll more running back. We kind of talked about them off on our own group. Chapa weaned goldman. I think tyler. I called him a set it and forget it running back matt. I think you disagreed. Yeah i don't really like winkelmann. He had to really nice runs in. That made up almost one hundred percent of his yards but he still had like one hundred and fifteen yards or something. So i'll give him credit for having a good game hundred thirty five. He finished right at what he is projected so he did. Yep only problem with him is. You didn't see any targets He got sniped at the goal from alfred. Morris don't like seeing vice do you know why though is tired from his eighty are the one by lake. Alfred morris catching a touchdown. Either from him he's got arizona in week fourteen. Like i think you can roll mouth for one more week. Cleveland baltimore in fifteen sixteen gets a little more dicey but are both in lake. Cleveland is in the middle for baltimore. Depends too much like so much of it depends on. Who's back lake class. Campbell's back their top to rush defense. So who knows with them week. Sixteen it's a long way to go but fourteen. I think you can roll them out week fifteen. You might be looking at another option. I last one here. We didn't talk about adding. He is emerging much more as a rookie. Then cam akers the last couple of weeks. Jonathan taylor starting to finally look like the running back but everyone was hoping for during drafts. Yeah he's looking really good right now. He has so much talent coming out of college. It was just a matter of it was nice to see him. Catch a forty yard touchdown last week. Absolutely so he's kind of he's kind of doing it in both avenues right now so it looks like he might be heating up at the right time. I'm definitely taking taylor over. Hinds right now. And he's going against two of the worst defenses against running backs week fourteen fifteen if you if he's been on the borderline for the fringe. You gotta start them in the playoffs. Yeah i agree. I think that hines has some dirt on Frank reich because he just loves to throw hinds in there when it should be jonathan taylor. But he's got something on them. I think i at who do you got wide receivers that you wanna talk about wide receivers. I have what i think is a potential league winner in. That is deebo samuel. He's got a tough match against washington but then he plays dallas and arizona. He is coming off a great game. He is fresh off his injury. It looked like he was fully healthy. He's still plays tonight. We are recording this on monday. So i haven't been able to see how he does tonight on monday but i liked everything i saw. Deebo samuel was really high on him coming into the season. I think that he could potentially be illeg winner. If you can get two weeks fifteen and sixteen and if you haven't been pbr. He's super-safe like he catches. Negative passes like he like friday. The line of scrimmage like he is the safest wide receiver possible when you hand literally are essentially handing him the ball like at the goal line in its councils a catch like i love deebo. I love the call. It's a hundred percent agree with you. Yeah i agree. You just have to make it through week. Fourteen against washington. And he's still gets you double digits just based off of those catches. It's really nice that they throw it to him forward to. Because it's like. Behind the line of scrimmage but it's technically a forward paso counts as a reception because if it was even like a half yard back further it would count as a run right you lose a lot of his values so i like the way that they take care of their fantasy owners there. corey davis guys. Has he turned into a must start. Yes double digits. Nine of ten games a season he just exploded for career game against the browns. May we just talk about derrick henry. Easy schedule he's got the same schedule. Jacksonville detroit and green bay. Aj be has been playing through injury. He's dinged up jonnu. Corey davis is this year's devante parker. Yep i love it. Rollout corey davis. You've said it all like i. I'd love corey. Davis corey davis a top ten wide receiver over the next three weeks. No because against the wide receiver that the defenses are much different than derrick. Henry they're all middle of the pack in four targets from. Aj brown is he started. Yeah he's a wide receiver to. Yeah i was gonna say top twenty where i have him but starting to like. I said i'm starting. I'm the only thing that stinks about. Brown is derrick. Henry could potentially run the ball thirty five times. Yeah you don't pass like that's very likely wouldn't be surprised if tanna throws thirty passes right like fourteen is just a bit whereas through twenty. I like it's. It's that easy scheduled for henry. And that's biggest concern. Yeah that's definitely the thing you have to worry about. You need your wide receivers on tennessee to get off to an early lead because jacksonville is gonna get absolutely spanked. And they'll just run into the ground all right. Let's move onto kiki. Qt now that will fuller is out cutie. Got his chance last week you went for one hundred and forty yards on receptions would you consider trusting him against chicago indian cincinnati in the willfuller all indie. Yes because kiki lights up the colts he has for whatever. Reason has four career. Best games against the colts. So let's start. Kiki against the colts on facts with jay. Yeah in india's not even that good against wide receiver top ten. No chicago's just really good. Yes and we talked about stafford. Lit them up. But it's it's also kiki cutie so sitting week fourteen starting in week. Fifteen against indy. Thi- you don't have any better options where you guys. That was ceedee lamb. He is the another victim of the dak prescott injury. But he has seen four plus receptions in every game this season except for one yards and touchdowns. Haven't really been there though. Can you start him against baltimore. Cincy and san fran He's not going against baltimore. He's going cincy san fran and philly baltimore's tonight. I wrote that down wrong. That's a pretty favorable schedule all middle of the pack. He's definitely affleck's candidate. I don't know if he'll cracked the top twenty four you can get into that flex spot where he's an upside flex play like. He's not safe flex play. He's upset. I think like you said he's got four plus catches but really like i'm playing him because he could have two touchdowns like he. He is getting red zone target so to me. He's not the safe flex play. He's the upside flex play. Yeah i agree. I'm i'm a little worried about ceedee lamb. But he's had a safe floor. And i mean if that's what you need at that position that'll he'll he'll provide that for you. Mario cooper is still found a way to get it done. So you have to start ceedee lamb. You certainly can but don't expect a monster game. I want to talk about dj chart. He's been boomer. Bus throughout the course of the season now had three bad games in her. Although without menchu he's failed to break ten points in all of them. They play tennessee baltimore in chicago. Any hope of him returning to form regardless of if menchu's air or not possibly against tennessee the aggressive him even if he is healthy. I'm not starting. I just don't trust glennon. I don't either charge. Has all the talent. But it's just not a good situation with the at the quarterback position. So i i don't want to. I'm trying my hardest to stay away. Yeah the only jaguar that i have any confidence in a ton of confidence in him as james robinson but other than that. I'm really worried about that. Offense yeah same to wide is that i want to talk about Marvin jones and kenny golladay was bring up kennedy to. We don't even know if he's gonna come back this season but they have a tough schedule. Green bay tennessee and tampa bay can even comes back. Can you trust him. Not against green bay but for sure against tennessee. He's been for so long at this point that i would have to see a week out of him before i'd feel confident putting back my lineup. Right so that's if even comes back this week it's green bay apps you're sitting up then. He has tennessee. What's your evaluation of looking. Good off of an injury like has two catches on three for twenty two yards. He's even necessarily look at. What is production was i would look at the number of snap. Said he played offensively and did he look healthy. Running routes i've bench. Both i mean like even five kennedy like you've you have pivot options at this point that you've gone most of the season without him. I'm not putting him in my lineup. I'm worried about the injury. Are you taking golladay or tyler boyd. Week fifteen say golladay looks good week. Fourteen week fifteen. If golladay plays week fourteen looks good. Then i will feel confident going with him in week. Fifteen hudas tyler boyd. Play week fifteen Pittsburgh has to be the worst possible. Yeah i'm gonna eat my word and say i'm gonna start kenny golladay. But that's lily because it's the number one defense like well. This is where. I think everybody can actually get a lesson in defenses. Because they're actually a bottom defense against wide receiver for fantasy points. Yeah garbage time. Suppose counts against them. They're giving up thirty three and a half points to opponents. Wide receivers st have a stat on receiver points against pittsburgh with their third string quarterback. No okay that's right. That's that in half. Yes that's where. I wanna draw my line there is. We don't know who's playing quarterback at pressure for cincinnati could be alan. It could be finley. I don't know which one's better i think either way i'm taking golladay. Thank you said you had to pick low worst defense to choose from so i'm gonna last wide receiver that i got for. You guys is tim. Patrick double first names. What is what is that called again pal and jerome or something. I don't remember what. It's sure tim patrick game against kansas city. Last week scored two touchdowns he's rewarded his fantasy owners and four of his last five games double digit points. The one game that he didn't was the kendall hinton experience so really he's had four good games in a row. Are you starting him with any form of confidence against carolina buffalo or the chargers slacks play at best. But i my team went out to be pretty bad to start them. I like the schedule. But yeah unless you got ravaged by injuries for some reason or covert or whatever. He's more of a bench wide. Receiver that if you had to throw in a flex position. Tyler boyd. Or tim patrick. If tyler boyd steelers. I'm taking. Tim patrick alice week fourteen. I'm going tyler boyd. In week fourteen. One hundred per cent no matter who is quarterback as what of kendall hinton is yeah tyler might be suspended. We don't know he kicked out of a game. It was pretty weak. It thrown bows reason. Unlike tyler boyd for me is he's like that flex wide receiver so tell. Her boys is the perfect. Pr safety wide. Receiver plays the slot. Even if you're the third string quarterback you should be able to find other boyd and carolina does a pretty good job shutting down wide receivers too so tim patrick in week fourteen. I'm not even super excited about that. Even though he has looked good. all right. you guys. Tim patrick or golladay. In week fourteen of golladay is announced healthy to play. Tim bedrick. See the the light bulb. Tim patrick flickering and tyler's over there. Okay all right. Let's move on to our final position tight ends. I don't have as much on the tight end position. Just pick up the good. Yeah like eric ebron a lot going into the playoffs. I do too and going into the season. I didn't think he was going to be a great option. But he's turned out to be like a safe tight end like he's a cake week. Fourteen in week fifteen. Yeah and the steelers. Don't run the ball. They'd only pass so if they're gonna keep doing that. And i want steelers pass catchers. Where are you guys out with. Mike you seki. He has seen his fantasy production increase in four straight games and he's found the end zone in each of his last two games. How are you feeling about him. Going up against casey new england and vegas no matter. Who is quarterback is. I'm taking bronco. Casey in new england super solid against the titan. Yeah i i would definitely take iran over seki. How about like a dallas gutter or mike koseki. Which one are you taking. If wentz quarterback got hurt for sure Got it against new orleans week fourteen against arizona. Week fifteen i'll take ebron against cincy. I know you like iran. I got her all guests seki through there. He wasn't even listening to you zero rating. Do it matchups ebron. i'll take her for both. Yeah unless unless hurts his name starter. Then i might have a pause. But i got her more to god. It's been really really good over the last three games. He's averaging seventeen fantasy points which is a lot for titans. Yeah absolutely dribble. The average had who looks really bad carson. Wentz that ends zach ertz ertz just looks slow like beat up. He hasn't played in like eight weeks and he still looks like he's just been beat. The crap of has gone in philly to like these games. I could be could be. I don't know is linemen a little block in when carson wentz is your quarterback is there such a thing as a. Decoy really wants to see what their future looks like. What at the same time when you're still kind of in the playoffs so there in the playoff hunt but they wanna see like jalen hurts with dallas. I don't know they're just kind of a mess right now. Zach ertz will not be on the eagles next year he is gonna walk and then kind of going back to the lions of kenny. Golladay coming back. If kenny g. comes back ebron how do you feel hopkinson. I don't like them either way. Yes i'm really hard matchups. I like hopkinson a lot. I like them based off a volume. Like you don't get that typically from tight end but if kenny g. comes back i'm assuming they're gonna filter targets at kenny which would assume would come away from hodkinson and like you said he does have tougher matchups week. Fourteen green bay guests. How many points they gave up two opposing tight ends six six. I was gonna say six seven. We're closeness combined with multiple titans ebron or all right you guys tyler higby or hayden hearst or just neither neither if i had to pick between the two rehearse yeah yeah i. I was actually really solid to the first nine weeks of the year. But he's been terrible over the last three games. So as a matt ryan the offense struggled. They got chargers tampa and kansas city. Coming up so. I really don't feel confident about arnold. Just pull a fantasy. Footballers dan arnold just go go homer at the arizona cardinals with them but circling back. Because we talked about this. Todd gurley i don't get i don't want to start todd. Gurley like he is. You can't todd. gurley will not be in my lineups. I don't even have todd gurley on a single one of my teams. But if i did i would not be starting him. He went from rb. Tuta frigging rb one cut. He was in the top twelve for like the first eight weeks. What happened the knee injury. flare up gossi-. I think it is he when he does play. He's looked slow. he's not cutting he doesn't look explosive like there's something going on with. That knee agreed. Any defense as you guys. Are we kind of touch on a few and we talked earlier about seattle tampa bay. I like both those cleveland arizona. Yeah arizona's boomer bus defense. I think if found new york giants philadelphia eagles saunderson. They're just the boomer buys like they they've been high scoring or they've been getting kind of torched. Oh oh washington football team. That's that's good defense to. I'm absolutely loving the rams defense right. Now i'm surprised that they're are only owned in seventy percent of leagues. Let me ask you. This is your defensive scoring. allow you to go negative. No yes because that changes how. I play defenses. 'cause if i can go negative i am not playing washington. No i am trying to be the safest i possibly can but if my lowest scores zero. I'll rollout almost anybody. Besides the jets are defensive. Scoring is kind of unique. But i actually really really like it. So we start at zero. And i think most defenses start at like ten or five or whatever but we start at zero and you can only get points so a sack is wanna fumble. His one an interception is one and a touchdown six. So what i like about. That is the yards and the points matter so as the game's going on i'm not sitting there watching and seeing like all they gave up fifteen yards. I just dropped point five points. You know exactly what you need. But at the same time some people would argue if your defense gives up a bunch of points yards. They should be penalized. So yeah ours gives ten for a shutout once you start scoring drops but that we don't do anything for yards or anything because it's random defenses sometimes get torched so it's i've never seen one yards just points any stream -able kickers coup not streaming anymore but he sanders in football sanders. Yup blankets rodriguez rodriguez cool down a little bit lately. He was on. Fire was a number on kicker for a while. But just pick the kicker with the highest score in spread to do if you have a crappy kicker or if they kick in doors true allegory. Cleveland do young way. Who is a cheat code right now. Like he's putting up fifteen to twenty points a game for me. It's amazing all right. Well that's going to wrap up the week. Fourteen playoff preview. Hope y'all have the best of luck in your matchups unless you're playing me then screw but No real good luck in your matchups. Of course we will be back for week. Fifteen give you some more insight. Yes good lock in week. Fourteen bring home. The w and we will see you next week. Offer lesson brescia. You bye bye later who see.

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