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"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

10:54 min | 7 months ago

"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"All right Matt so the other position I think we need to talk about his tight end now. The giants obviously have Evan Ingram and again as always there are. There are injury concerns with with. Ingram durability concerns the giants have Have spent part of the off. Season collecting tight ends veteran. Guy Like Levine. To eye to eye. Lolo on that brought back Eric Tomlinson. They saw red ellison retire. They have Cayden Smith. They have a couple of other young tight ends on the roster. They have a lot of guys but what I don't see at the tight end position especially with you know with the questions about Ingram's durability what I don't see it the tight end position or a lot of long term answers so again. It's another position. I don't expect the giants to Go and draft a tight end. You know in in the second round even in the third round. I think they just have other priorities other things that they have to do so again. We're talking about data three tight ends. GimMe Gimme a few guys. You think could be could develop into starting caliber. Tight ends day three range. You know guys who who could maybe be part of the long term solution for the giants at that spot. Sure you know and and one guy. We didn't talk about wide receiver. Who could wind up being tight end kind of in that Evan? Ingram mold would be notre. Dame's Chase Klay Pool. So if they decide they want to draft a receiver but they feel like he can provide them. Maybe that Evan Ingram Jared Cook type of play clay pools a guy that we probably should have mentioned earlier but for day. Three guys the one that really sticks out the most is. Ucla'S DEVON OSCEOLA Z. Who is a six three two hundred fifty seven pound Tied in who really came off one strong year because he was toiling behind. Caleb Wilson who was you know statistically very strong college tight end but really more of a move a move tied and kind of more of just a big slow wide receiver. Who's who who's going to have trouble probably making the NFL roster but had a lot of reporter. With the likes of Josh Rosen and there is no and all the way up until last year when he you know. He was kind of their raining guys so they weren't GonNa Bench him for. Maybe a guy like Ozzy Ozzy who's a more promising. Nfl fell prospect but you know was still working his way arrived later at UCLA. So you know. Wilson had seniority in that. Respect but Ozzy Ozzy is you know. Ease a decent blocker. Econo- reminds me of a mix of guys like Randy McMichael who used to play with the dolphins on a Georgia and algae crumpled former Falcons player. Who was a good run? Blocker could really do nice work after the catch in the short and intermediate ranges field and Osceola has that skill. He's a type of guy that has good quickness. Good footwork works. The middle of the field. Wells receiver has the suddenness to be able to make those quick breaks. You need against linebackers. So I'm a big fan of what I think. He could become an probably. He's the best option of those day. Three guys bryson Hopkins is an interesting player. He's six five to forty five. Probably can add a little bit. More Weight is dad. Was Brad Hopkins. The former left tackle for the Tennessee. Titans when they had Steve McNair and that Super Bowl team He's a better block than you would expect he. He has some work to do to bulk up and be able to win the physical matchups but technically yes. I'm pretty Nice. Skills in terms of using the one arm technique being able to slide and and stay square with players but he's best fit as an h back. Who can really lead block in the run game and you can use a little bit more as an h back lead lead blocker also an edge blocker and he has terrific short area acceleration So type of guy that you can kind of leak the ball out too. And he can get yards after the catch You know two other guys that I'll give you a few other guys here. That could be interesting. Thad boss Randy mosses son out of. Lsu He's not a fast guy he's extremely sure handed And he runs good routes. He's the type of guy that you he could win in the short intermediate range when you throw targets up to let him win But he's mostly going to function for you as a blocker and his a short area receiver. They have a lot of those guys already. But he's kind of a Dennis Pitta Heath Miller type of player who can give you some dynamic skill in the red zone But also be a fantastic blocker on. I think he's less likely to be on that radar But guys who might be able to grow into more Jose that Guevara out of Cincinnati Former wide receiver pecan add. Maybe another ten to fifteen pounds. He can work. At the line of scrimmage and not just be an age back but also wind down field. You're Delaney Walker type of player at least aspiring in that area. And then you know jared Pinkney Auto Vanderbilt many concerned him to be atop Titan class but he kinda showed you kind of regressed last year. Production wise so a lot of people are going to be on that but he's also a slower player but he's kind of a you know you think of Zack. Miller as an example of a player that that he that he could be a productive guy in the slower range but still very good blocker enough short area quickness to be able to stretch the seem And then maybe the last guy who might have the most upside and if you're going to take a chance on a guy late in the draft. This might be the guy to do that. And that's Cheyenne O'Grady out of Arkansas. He's he's a hard running. Tied will excellent hands toughness in the face of contact But he's been suspended twice by his team. is former teammate. Forty niners linebacker. Drake Greenlaw actually called him out for. Skipping practices went to high school together and call him out for skipping practice and skipping class And they basically team after suspending him twice essentially quote unquote greed. A mutually to part company at the end of the season So he didn't even really finish at his time at the program but when you watch his game. He has worked at develop as a route runner in blocker. But the physical skills are there and he's type of guy that if he can mature and a lot of guys. You know Nina Little Time. More time to mature at this age If he can be one of those guys to turn the corner and mature and they feel solid about him he could be that guy that that goes from late round pick to emerge into a really productive. Nfl Starter all right Matt. Thank you very very much. For for all of that information lots of players to consider at At all of those positions will be interested to find out what the giants do here in a couple of weeks met before I let you go and before we close up shop wanted to tell folks where they can find you on twitter where they can follow your work. What you got coming up all that good stuff. Sure you know you can follow me at Mount Waldman. Rsvp DOT COM. That's my sight. You also can follow my Youtube Channel Matt Waldman's as P film room for anywhere between you know five minute long videos on player prospects to our long videos Twitter my handle is Matt. Waldman WWL D. A. N. And of course there's the Matt Waldman Czars P cast with you know we share mark. Scofield you know and Mark Mark. Certainly he comes on every other week. I do a scout A scout talk podcast with Russ Landi. Who is a former? Nfl SCOUT WITH A couple of different teams and working with the You know working in Calgary in Calgary with the stampede irs as a scout right now in the CFL and we talk about scouting matters You know go in depth on that and you. Can you know if you're interested in the rookie prospects at the skill positions? You know I offer what is arguably the most in-depth comprehensive guide that came out on April first on the rookie scouting portfolio publication. You can download it You can find the information and I'm videos that give you Tours of rookie scouting portfolio at Mount Waldman ours P dot com and that comes with a pre draft addition post draft edition after the draft. A week after that and then Then I a newsletter from June through December once a month that keeps you updated about those players as well as the past. Three classes of rookies And The upcoming class for twenty twenty one so You know it's well worth it's it's well worth the bang for the buck in terms of people You know the people who've gotten it. That's what their Their thoughts have been for the past fifteen years now. So it's what I do. Full time and You know hopefully give it a look all. It's all definitely great. Information definitely worth the time and the money Matt. Thank you very very much. Maybe After the draft will will get back together. We'll talk about the players that the giants did draft sounds great. Ed All right Matt. Thank you giants fans as always. Thank you for listening. Stay safe out there and we'll talk to you soon. Bye Bye hi. I'm Brian and I'm one of the hosts of the Amazing Avenue Network of podcasts. Each weekday we bring you a different podcast. The covers the New York mets from a different perspective every Monday. You Hear Me Steve. 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"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

12:19 min | 7 months ago

"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"One of the things that he has done consistently is take some of the draft assets that he's able to accumulate target a player or two and be aggressive in moving up to get a player that that he believes in or to try to fill a position that he thinks he really needs to fill and one of the scenarios that that I see as as possible for the giants would be if they're going to trade up. Let's say they get their offensive lineman early if they're going to trade up. I would look at wide receiver. Which as I said I think is a really underrated need with you. Know with the ages of tate with the injury history with with sterling shepherd I could easily see them trading back in a late in the first round to get a wide receiver in a couple of the names that I've heard will start with these two players and then maybe we'll talk about other guys. You would see as possible targets for a move like that. The two names that I keep hearing just in Jefferson of lsu and Denzel mims of Baylor. So why don't we start with with you talking about those two players? Yeah it's funny. Those are two of my favorite players in this class. And I think that they're very good ex- if they were going to The gentleman is going to trade up and try and you know parlay some of those assets for a player of impact. I think those who can deliver impact early on and develop into Really solid strong starters and really be maybe long-term being upgrade to what the giants have. I really think that they they can be an upgrade to what the giants have within two to three years. Maybe even immediately depending on how they're used I think let's start with Justin Jefferson who I really think is probably my favorite receiver in this class. He's a he's just a smart intuitive football player. He's he played a lot on the outside earlier in his career. And you can see the skills to be able to make the hard breaks. You're looking forward to to to run the timing perimeter routes he has various he. He's very skilled on the boundary in terms of being able to stay in in the boundary and be able to make plays at its edge He can take contact. He certainly has an array of skills being able to be press coverage. it may not be the his greatest strength as a player but he is skilled enough that he can win outside Big Hands you know. Vacuums the ball up very well and he's very good after the catch has excellent peripheral vision to be able to you know. Avoid Defenders has great timing in that respect especially in the middle of the field when there's multiple guys coming at you from different angles. So you know obviously you know. Jefferson can be very good perimeter player. But what we saw last year at Lsu was at one of his greatest strengths playing in the slot and Jefferson excels in the slot and for number of reasons. One is that he's very good at the option routes routes where he basically running against a linebacker or safety or nickel corner. Where you get the you get the option to go inside or outside or get a little bit deeper breakback short he on. He has a good feel with his quarterback of how to read the defense and be on the same page. He's a very patient receiver. So he can set up those defenders with the with the footwork that you need to be able to get off the line of scrimmage and be able to bait the defender and and time things in a manner where you're reading the field. He does at work very well. But then in addition to that he's an excellent blocker and that's an underrated aspect of wide receiver. Play especially if you're gonNA play on the inside and there's tape of him being able to handle. Sec caliber athletes at linebacker. Or safety where he can wall them off he punches well. He's ABLE TO SUSTAIN HIS HANDS. Even against larger defenders in the two hundred twenty five to two hundred forty pound range. So you're seeing you know you're not going to ask him to absolutely dominating pancake guys like that but he technically can hold his own and he's tough enough to be able to do the job where you know if a defender is not doesn't have his ears pinned back and he's really you know aggressive on the play early on. Jefferson's the type of player that can get the early advantage. And then keep the defender from being able to you. Know redirect or be able to you know regain his intensity to bail to his advantage. And so you know. Jefferson's very good as a blocker and then most of all because he's so good with the patient aspect of working with the quarterback. He's probably one of the best receivers in this class when the play breaks down and being able to find the open space whether it's in zone or it's one on one. He has a really good knack for efficiently. Making one move to be able to break into the open area and be able to create a nice target for quarterback when the quarterback has to break the pocket or the play goes off script. And so when you add all that together you get a A wonderfully versatile player who can has just enough speed that. If you need them to play split end you probably could get him. Get some work from him there but he can be a flanker easily in an offense especially because of his after the catch skills And then you have a dynamic player from the slot so he would be a guy that even if you know Sterling Shepard's able to be healthy again and and he's playing well. Jefferson can kind of spot play behind Sterling shepherd he can also play out. You know. Play the flanker Um role. He someone who to me reminds me of a combination of of traits that you would see from Keenan Allen and from DJ charge of Jacksonville. Jaguars where you've got that fields trees. He's a faster version of Keenan Allen In terms of an athlete He may not be as quick as Alan. But he's got that savviness about his game in terms of the technique the footwork understanding how to be patient. And so he's a terrific. He's a terrific player and he's one of my top five receivers than this very wise. Get a guy like him. Now Denzel mims is is an is an absolutely fun player. He's my number two receiver in class And I've had them pretty much that high for months so it's interesting that he's starting to get that kind of Pre draft affection that you're seeing from a lot of from a lot of analysts out there The Baylor product use six. Two two zero seven. He had an absolutely stellar combine in terms of the in terms of the metrics that he showed. But what's really impressive about him? You know the athletic parts of the icing on the cake. He's as great short area quickness strong acceleration and then terrific long speed but he developed throughout his career. You could literally. I have a video that I showed on my youtube channel. Mount Waldman's ours. Film room that I probably spend. I think I it's plenty of thirty forty minute. Long video where I show his development over three years and you start to see his development. As a row runner specially with press coverage Es Es a skilled press coverage receiver for the college game. He someone that understands That he's had to develop different types of foot work different types of hand usage how to combine them in different ways And then also learning how to read the defender and setup defenders as the game goes along and as a that's an a craft wide receiver play that often takes a couple of years and some receivers never really get it. That's why you get some guys who were really athletic. But they're kind a. They're kind of like a hammer in the offense they're just like a a a single dimensional tool because they can't release against different types of coverages That you need them to and you have to kind of scheme them to get open Mims is the type of guy that I think can develop into a primary player because of the fact that you can see him setting up defenders whether it's off man coverage or whether it's tight man coverage he shows a skill to be physical he shows skills to be able to avoid the first man he can work inside he has the he has the physicality to win coverage. You know win. Plays where it's tightly covered or to take kits and come down with the ball. He probably makes he an CD. Lan probably make some of the most impressive catches on targets. That are away from their frame that I've seen from anybody this year and and really they rank well enough in that area. That may be any year there. You know they're they would be on a list of maybe my top ten the top fifteen So you know guys who've made just impressive catches whether it's low and away whether it's having to catch the catch the ball as well as wrap your arms around the defenders harm while he's got it reached into your body while you're you know kind of leaning low away High point catches being widowed. One Hand the ball where your ear momentum is heading one direction you have to turn your arm in the opposite direction of that momentum very skilled in that regard so highly gives you what Beckham used to be able to provide where you can take a target. That's catchable but not necessarily pinpoint accurate and kind of erase that lack of pinpoint accuracy with your athletic skill. Mims has that Jefferson can do a lot of that but it's not at the level of what mims provides So you know I would say that mims is also pretty good player after the catch Certainly he's A. He's a slightly better athlete than than Jefferson in the open field But maybe not quite as a aware and not quite as versatile. But if you're looking for a guide to be your split and your flanker he can probably do either of those rolled pretty well and you can interchange him in Slayton And then you can keep a guy like golden tate on the inside and have him in Sterling Shepard kind of rotate. Well as you know and you can kind of rotate. All of these guys in men's is really shown that he's at the he's ready to perform at his level of potential in his level. Potential is a you know a borderline proble type of wide receiver. I'd say both E. N. And Jefferson have that ceiling to their game But I think both can right away. I think both can be productive And can deliver what you probably got. Outta slate and last year. I think they can probably deliver that. But on a more consistent basis where you're not getting the absolute highs and and then the the you know the the valid lays that may be slate in God but again that also depends on quarterback play you know and and the health of the offensive line and the and the functionality. The offense but if all those things come together both those players are capable of consistent production..

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"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

14:14 min | 7 months ago

"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Pre-draft always get a chance to talk to Matt. Waldman of the rookie scouting portfolio and Matt will be joining us today. Here in a minute just a word of advice if you guys haven't Haven't listened to any of MATT'S PODCASTS. At the rookie scouting portfolio or any of the interviews. That that Matt and I have done over the years Buckling because I think we might be here for a little while so So so let's without any any further ado. Let Me Bring Bring Matt in Matt. How you do and how you been. How's everybody everybody's doing good at and You know have everybody staying safe out there all. We're we're trying we're trying we're doing the best we can. Of course safe. You're like me you spend a lot of time working from home anyway. So so things don't So so that part of life doesn't change a whole lot. Yeah Yeah I'm pretty much the same way so you know. People are getting used to working from home. I'm thinking well. It's a typical year. You know typical mark really typical March April for me other than the fact that if you do keep up with the news. It's been extraordinarily atypical. That it has the typical part for me. Is that you know two rooms over in my house. I have my wife now sitting here working from home so So that's a little different but We're all we're all doing what we have to do and the NFL is is rolling along. We've been through most of free agency at this point. They're they're pushing ahead with plans for the NFL draft which will be virtual. It'll be different. There won't be fans but there will still be in. Nfl draft and as usual there still a lot of hysteria in various teams fan bases as they discuss who who their teams should draft. What they should do and we're going to go through a lot of that Here in terms of the giants you know Matt. Your your major area of expertise. What you spend a lot of time on is the the skill positions. And that's what we're going to focus on here today. Mostly wide receiver. But I do have to ask you the giants. Have the fourth overall pick. They're they're not taking a quarterback they're not only. I would doubt very very much that they're taking a wide receiver. The big debate seems to be between Clemson. Do Everything defender Isaiah Simmons and taking an offensive tackle. And and if you're if it's you on that On that conference call you know making net choice. What do you do for the giants at forum? I'm curious because I get I get so many different opinions on this and it's split down the middle what you would do. I can imagine it is you know and and when you look at a guy like. Isaiah Simmons Certainly. He loved the athletic ability that he provides and the fact that he can cover tight ends and some wide receivers up the scene up to twenty twenty five yards with a drop. And you like the fact that he's type of guy that could spy quarterback and run some quarterbacks down as they try to break the pocket and get to the edge You know the real question is what position does he play and and to me. What's important about Isaiah? Simmons is having a really good plan for how you're going to implement him to to maximize strengths minimizes weaknesses. And and also really where you are as a team and when I look at the giants I mean certainly you have. You know you have an up and coming player and we'll Hernandez you know Zeitler and and sold her our solid. If not very good but then you still. You're looking at these guys. Mid To late career most likely in terms of the span of what? You're looking for from an offensive lineman that's kind of a breather at you have gates on at right tackle and you think about what is it that this. What is it that you want to do with this team? And and it seems to me that you have a young quarterback you have a young stud running back and it seems like the emphasis should probably if it were if it were me to emphasize the the offensive line to to really try and solidify this. Make sure there's depth make sure that there's up and coming talent because this offense is a young strength. That's how you got to have it and and I think that you know you need to give Daniel Jones time in the pocket. You know one of his. We've talked about him extensively last year and while the weaknesses that kind of showed up late in the year with him is low. Bit Of tone. Deafness in the pocket Some skill you know in terms of being able to manage pressure or being able to to send pressure quickly enough deuce in the amount of pressure that Daniel John owns deals with would be very strong. It would be very good thing having a bean having a strong an offensive line. That saquon Barkley is used in a manner where he can be working out in the flats or working. The scene or up the sideline as often as possible as a receipt. Really the answer is offensive line. And there are some good offensive lineman in the first round you know ranging from Andrew Tall lose one of the most solid two guys like MCI Becton to Tristan works in you. Know there's about four or five offensive line often. That are very strong in this class and I just think that build on. That should probably be the priority. Because you've already started building there and with quarterbacks you need to keep them clean you know and the cleaner you keep them the better off you are in terms of their development if you start hitting them on a they start getting hit. You know more than they should. That's the position where you can see regression and you can see decision making start to decline And then also difficulties being able to react to pressure amon overreacting to it. And that's something that cannot harm permanently ingrained in certain players. A guy like back in the past. There was a buffalo bills quarterback by the Trent Edwards. Who WAS AT STANFORD. And and he was known for his toughness in the bucket. I mean e- Atta horrific Offensive Line at Stanford to the point that when those USC teams with you know the the Reggie Bush Lyndale White Steve Smith you know Matt Liner ears were. They had a you know they were the Alabama and the Lsu of the NCAA when they were facing that type of team in USC THE STANFORD LINEMEN. There was tape of them. Literally argue with each other during a play and allowing China awards to get sacked. He was a tough guy. Though played through a lot of that but at buffalo you know he started look promising and then they were not able to protect him and once he got concussed by believe it was a hit by Adrian Wilson from the Arizona Cardinals His career pretty much as a starter ended because he came back. And you could tell he just. He re overreacted the pressure on a consistent basis and he could never really be anything more than a journeyman backup. And that's not the type of thing you want to have happened with a guy like Daniel Jones So being able to fortify the edge having depth at the edge and having youth Promising youth at that level will be helpful especially as players get hurt. Because you know I in Athens in the League and when you can provide some level of death along offensive line with talent It can make a difference in your season. I down here in Atlanta. And I'll end up with just saying that. You Know Matt Ryan. They added to offense Lineman for him. you know last year and one of them you know it was the Washington kid who was You know had I believe some sort of heart surgery. That was kind of a follow up procedure and then he was hurt early in the year and he didn't come back till later. And you could see how much that offense that offense struggled early in mid year without a solid offensive line and when they were able to bring him back in he started playing and he played well. You could just see the lift that the entire offense ad because of his presence and I think that's very important it was caleb mcgarry and Chris Lindstrom. Were the two that they added at right guard. Chris Chris Lindstrom a right guard Boston College and Caleb mcgarry on Washington and when those two guys got into the lineup and and you could just see the difference in how that offense played and I think it's I think that applies very well to the giants especially if you know. Mid-year injuries occurred having that that is important as well as growing for the future. Because like we said the the age of those players are at that mid to late career span. Yeah you're pretty much where I met Matt where I think it's there. I call it sort of their bottom line. Responsibility is to to give Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley. Every chance to be the players that they should be or could be I WanNa talk about a WANNA turn the conversation. No at this point to to the other skill positions to more. You know the things that you spend most of your time studying in end that would be you know. We're not gonNA talk about quarterback. Obviously there's no need for us to do that at this point we'll talk about wide receiver mostly. We'll talk a little bit about running back and tight end. You know later in the draft and where I want to start is is right here. I tend to think you everybody. Focus for the giants on the offensive line. They focus on adding defensive. Play mayor makers they they sort of obsess about. How are the giants going to add to the pass rush? They're probably not going to be able to To get chase young in this draft. There they haven't been able to To sign it Avian. Clowney they're not GONNA be able to make a trade for the for the kid from Jacksonville whose name I always butcher. So I'm not even God announces. I'm not even GONNA try. I just I give up because every time I do it I'd I butcher it and somebody on twitter calls me out so I'm just I give up but But one of the underrated needs the way that I look at. It is wide receiver in where I want to start is. Let's actually start with what the giants have I mean? They have the veteran guys tate. They have you know Sterling Shepherd. Who's got the the scary concussion issues from last year? And my you know pick my first question for you is about dairy asleep and I guess my people look at him and they think could he be a number one wide receiver in. Is that if people look at him and say well. He's the he's the number one he's the guy. Is that putting too much of an expectation on Darius Slayton. I think it is at this point but Certainly the physical skills are there for him to become a primary wide receiver in the NFL and while the stats show that promised to believe that he can become that I think that he's going to need another year or two because again it to be a top receiver in the NFL. You really need to be able to to be consistently good against the top quarterbacks in the League against tight man coverage to be able to defeat bracketed coverage to be able to read coverage in a way where you're on the same page with your quarterback And understand the complexities of that. And I think that there's still more to prove with his game. There's more for him to develop so giving you know he may be a guy that can offer you some of those physical skills and some of those plays where you're not going to win the ball being able to beat Beat some top corners on occasion on some deeper routes Especially with the Eight. A play action or double moves or any type of play. That's more of a constraint type of play but I think overall you still need to give him a little bit of time and you're also GonNa need and I think also it doesn't hurt to be able to add another receiver in this very talented class. Who CAN Who can develop alongside where you can do some rotating of positions and you still have golden tate where tate I think. Maybe we still. At the end of his career stills. Bill is still able to offer some possibilities in terms of what he can do. Both inside and outside and you can play the game as an offense where you rotate the receivers to find good match ups for them in a way where you may not have to lean on saying alright. Here's you know you know when you had Odell Beckham you could. You could Kinda just say this is who he's going to be lined up against. It doesn't matter we're still gonNA throw him the ball he'll be open Whereas I think that that the giants don't quite have that right now But maybe in a couple of years a guy like Slayton or if they do draft another another player from this rich class You know within the first two to four rounds. They might find that guy as well. So let's talk about a scenario here. One of the things that Dave gettleman has been known for everybody sort of nashes their teeth and looks at cattleman with the number. Four pick ince's all he really should trade down but but he's never done that. You know in seven drafts is in. Nfl General Manager one of the things though that it gettleman has done consistently in both Carolina and New York in which he did this last year with the Andre Baker..

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"matt waldman" Discussed on The College Draft with Ross Tucker

The College Draft with Ross Tucker

01:43 min | 1 year ago

"matt waldman" Discussed on The College Draft with Ross Tucker

"But within tiers of performance, whether they have how I define for instance, star caliber performance versus starter caliber performance to, you know, committee caliber on down, and they each get placed in those areas, and if they qualify for certain levels of that. But maybe not everything they kind of fall in between, and they get certain levels of bonuses that are projectable to you know, that I've deemed that they're projectable things that they can get better at. I love it. I'm now eleven hundred pages. That's just insane. Matt, but I love it. And I love talking with you about these guys. So let's dive into it since you have it graded the way you did. And since you've already looked at it post draft. I guess what I'm most interested in Matt would be either the guys that you really liked that maybe other people weren't as high on. And you think they were great picks for certain teams, and guys that you really had some questions about and you're not so sure about their selection by those teams, and you know, the process will play out, and we'll see what ends up happening. So why don't we start with the positive? You know, some guys that you really liked maybe more than the quote unquote community did and you felt like the teams that took them got trauma. Lendus value and made excellent picks. Sure. I mean, I think we'll start off even just with the quarterback position class at a lot of people don't feel like is as good as what we saw in the past few classes, and what made to come..

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"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

03:43 min | 1 year ago

"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"And a half inch vertical? Leap and he's two hundred twenty pounds and six four, and he doesn't have those hands issues at all he tracks the ball extremely well. He's good after the catch he strong. He runs to riff routes breaks back to the ball. Extremely well. So you can rely on him variety of ways. It wasn't talked about a lot. Because didn't have a great quarterback. And people wondered if he was truly that faster. Not. But you can see it on tape matches up as what you see. And then then another guy could be. Multiple is AJ Brown. Who's certainly, you know, more of a slot player. And I don't think the giants will go after him, but he can win the catch point. And you could probably put him at flanker because he's very good after the catch. But I think they need more of a split in than that guy beings. If you're gonna look for split ended this class decay Metcalfe's that guy decay Metcalf. You know, he doesn't have great bend with the way he drops his weight in his routes in and out of his brakes of and I worried that tighter coverage will Biggs Asir bait. That issue where now defensive backs in the SEC all over college are just scared out of their minds about getting beat deep by him. So they'd get a lot of cushion. But the same thing goes with him as I think he's so physical it the way he uses his hands. He so violent with his head that he can create runways just doing that. And and then he gets up to that fourthly speed that he has and he's off to tackle any can win the ball all the catch boring. He has occasional technique issues with. His catching and he also drops passes, but again technique is fixable. Just a matter of understanding when he needs to put his hands up high for certain types of throws as opposed to using a lower hands technique. So he's a little more. He's a little less refined than Butler boykin Brown of. But his physicality at high would use him as a split in. That's all you wanna use them for. It's like going to the hardware store and saying you want a hammer, and you're not gonna get all caught up whether or not the hammer concern into a wrench. He's a hammer. And he's a guy is gonna get downfield. Just have the deep the zones of of defense. So the one name that you mentioned that surprised me a little bit as we were talking about that particular point in the draft was was miles boykin. Do you really think that he would be in the conversation that early in the draft or or is he a guy that that would come a little bit later on? I think he's fog end up in the second round. He shouldn't be. But I'm just looking at highlight, great guys. So to me he's that good. He he should be the conversations while the top three or four receivers in this class of. But most likely he will probably fall to the second round in this in this class will be of quiet thing, we got remember that, you know, past examples, we've talked about players, we think are gonna be first or second guys and in the past. We didn't think Paul Richardson would be a second route guy for the Seahawks. When Dante Pettis would be a second round guy for the forty Niners last year. So I'm kind of open to that because I'm debt at this was my first ranked guy last year on the board just ahead of Ridley DJ more and Don strategy see that petty started. Flash solo skills. Once it got LV. So yeah, I don't know what boy can will be someone that they might account and said we can probably get him maybe in the second round. And if they do that will be quite a bargain. And as you said, you know, at the top when we started to discuss this teams have such a wide variety of of grades in any opinions on wide receivers that you know, that you never know, you know, how some of these guys are going to fall, you know..

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04:16 min | 1 year ago

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"But I keep thinking, you know, if they wanted to turn the draft on their heads Hopkinson. Might be a guy to look at it six. Oh, I think it's definitely something that you have to look into because he is that good of a player. He can start right away for team because he is that a block he you can use him on the wing you can use in line against offensive ends Outside Linebackers. You can use as a fullback you can split them in the slot or outside, and he can do all he's got the size already to anchor in hold up. He's a good puncher younger stands out. Get come off the line with his back loan as pads low. He can turn very quickly turned defenders quickly. He's a good lead blocker. So you get someone who's already at better blocker based on what we saw last season than evidence grow. And you get a player who also can work the scene down field and win contested plays and run after the catch. So if you wanted to say, listen we ever receiving core. We're just gonna put Ingram. You know at split end or put him at flanker. We're gonna put the other guys where the where they need to be. And we can rotate Coleman we can use Latimer in certain leverage situations, if he continues to show up, and if that's the case, then you end up consolidate your position and part of that is that you could use Ingram as the second tight end. He doesn't have to be on the front side of blocking schemes. So he can end you can be the guy can sneak out of the backfield sneak out off the line and use him on that level or you could be more multiple in your look. So you have two tight ends split. One out pre snap motion them to the receiving parcel. You can take advantage of what the coverage shows you. And now you're looking at a rob gronkowski Aaron Hernandez type of situation in terms of how these players could be used in the way that the patriots did your to go and that I can see why they're studying. That because when you have multiple tight ends that creates a lot of issues the colts did a lot of great work with that last year where they even ran things like three verticals four verticals using three and four tight ends. And looking like they were going to you know, they're gonna run the football. Just you know, compressed the box play you know, short short yardage football. And the next thing, you know, three of those tight ends or running verticals off out of the formation. They're getting big place out of that. And you could send e how the giants decide listen we've got saquon Barkley we want to look like we're going to be a physical power to eat. But we also want to be multiple enough that we can spread the field in as soon as as soon as the defense decides they're gonna use personnel and take advantage of them for that. So I love the idea is very creative one. We'll see if they take it seriously enough to to go that route. I have my doubts just because of all of the they've spent so much time talking about how much they need to upgrade their defense. You know, how much they they really could use a right tackle. And of course, you know, the quarterback discussion, which I don't think they're going to go quarterback at six, but it it's an intriguing idea. I just I think I would be I would be shocked if they pulled the trigger on it at six agree. And I think if they went really that could probably go around or two later there some guys that can still do that with guys like Dawson knocks of ole miss is of very fine blocker who has that same versatility? And can also catch the ball up thanking. He's terrific athlete is just underrated because he wasn't used a lot as receiver at ole miss. But he could be bargain version that for Hopkinson there's a guy really love tight end by traverse. John West go from West Virginia who's a former quarterback. When he came up or high school quarterback. But he's he was literally praised as part of the offense of live for West Virginia last year in terms of how Weli block he's about two hundred seventy pounds..

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03:21 min | 1 year ago

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"And I don't think it's going to happen. And there's eastern stick out of North Dakota state. I think eastern stick is a tough quick aggressive quarterback who is really comfortable in the pocket. Someone who can who knows how to new tight space as well. And still being a position throw the ball. He has really he's underrated as an athlete. I mean, his his twenty shuttle three cone drill. He could be a slot receiver with the kind of speed and quite or the kind of quickness and change direction skill that, he exhibited a six point six five three cone drill. I mean, that's like that's like elite slot receiver quickness and a four point zero five twenty shuttle anyone's four six forty. I mean, he literally is he's a six one two hundred twenty four pound athlete who runs with the quickness of a slot receiver, and he's physical, and he is someone. That can run the ball for you. But he has the aggressiveness to throw downfield. He makes really nice throws. He makes really strong decisions at times, he's a bad ler. And I think the issue with him as he's been inconsistent time. There's times that he misses throws at you're like, how did you not see that you know, that post breaking wide open? And why did you throw it over here to the opposite side, you know, some of those types of things that I think he can get better at they're just kinda decision making things that he can continue to work on because I see moments where he does process the field. Very well, it's not like he whenever he has an opportunity to process field that he messes it up. It's just that he has someplace where you're like that was really bad word choice in that speech. He made. But there are other things you said that were so eloquent that I'm just going to have to think that you really didn't think about that or prepare for that as well as you could have so eastern stick out of North Dakota state. That's a guy that you have I get at the end of draft. I think he's kind of guy that would endear himself to teammates and be the kind of guy that might be able to outplay his draft position. All right. Hey, we always appreciate you spending some time with us. You know, we've pretty much gone all the way through the the quarterback class. Hopefully, giants fans have have learned a few things. I mean, we know that we know that you're you're on the Brett Rippin bandwagon. And that you think Dave cattleman should have his head examined if he drafts Daniel Jones, but. What I hope to do. You know, let's do this again. Let's get you back on to talk wide receivers and tight ends. We're kind of going to skip the running back discussions since the giants have a guy who's not half bad is. All right. But but let's let's do that. Again, you know before we get to draft. They will get you back on to talk tight ends and wide receivers in before. I let you go one or two just tell folks. So where they can find your work, if they're not sure. And I know you're you're you're draft guide is available now. So make sure people know how to get it. Sure. I saying ours P publication you get a draft guide that's devoted to quarterback running back. Why receiver tied him, and it's a thousand pages on a pedia probably about four hundred fifty of 'em..

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04:24 min | 1 year ago

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"And is he a guy who could really come out of this class as a as a day three as a fourth round guy in wind up being one of the better quarterbacks in this class. I think can. And I think the reason is is that if he developed just a little bit more velocity inaccuracy on some of the vertical deep throws. He is a guy who's good enough to be a productive starter. I think has the best footwork in this class securites all forms of drops with precision rhythm officiency. And he's got tempo. There are a lot of quarterbacks don't play with good tempo in college game. And he's always playing at a strong tempo. And you can see it whenever there. He's giving a variety of play fakes selling those or whether he's manipulating defenders with the way that he turns his body, and he's also someone. That's tough in the pocket in terms of being able to take hits, but he can climb and slide and flush from from the pocket and still deliver with pinpoint accuracy because I grade by general accuracy and pinpoint accuracy. And general accuracy is kind of what was like I was joked that Mon Mike Holmgren got dressed down a little bit by Bill Walsh when they were working together after Montana threw a ball rice. That was good enough for rice to stretch in catch any said good throw, you know, to to and prays Joe Joe, Montana and Walsh came over and said, don't you ever tell him a throw like that's a good throw. And it went on to give him a mini treaties on what a good throw was in terms of how it should look. And what pinpoint accuracy was. So I was joked that general accuracy is what Mike Holmgren before though Walsh dressing down with said was good enough. And then you have the Bill Walsh standard. And so you I great both because sometimes. You have to have the Mike home come standard. You know, the pre Walsh standard of that. And then sometimes it's more important. It has to be pinpoint and I think Rippin has very good pinpoint accuracy a lot of his throws. And so I like the toughness with his game. I think that someone that at worst. He you know, if I'm completely wrong about him. I think it worse. He develops into a case keenum type of player, I think at his best. He can be more like what people in vision. Teddy Bridgewater to be before as he was coming on before his injury, someone that can buy time in the pocket someone that can, you know, find the open man throw with anticipation and with good accuracy and show toughness. And so I like his game. I think that he is actually one of the top five quarterbacks in this class. I wouldn't touch Daniel Jones with ten foot pole. But I would take Brett Rippin an instant at probably, you know, at the place where I've probably take Brett Rippin like in the second. Third round. If I had to if I was forced to choose him or Daniel Jones or drew lock, you know, or some of the guys that we mentioned there. But I think that has Thurday picky and absolute bargain to take a shot on because at worst, you get a competent backup. But I think that he's he offers more than that. All right. Final question for you. And you know, I don't wanna go through every single one of the draftable day three guys. But I'm gonna throw a patch Shurmur quote at you. And I'm going to ask you, you know, for one guy we haven't talked about. So put yourself in the situation where you're the quarterback coach Pat Shurmur uses the phrase winning meets these guys when he looks at quarterbacks one of the questions he asks himself is is this a guy that I really want to coach. Is there a guy among the quarterbacks today? Three guys, whatever their guy that we haven't talked about yet that if you were a quarterback coach, you would say I really wanna work with that guy and see what we can do. Yes. And there's three guys, and I'm not gonna I'm just going to mention the other two by name. I won't mention much about their game. And then I mentioned the guy that I really like there's Tyree Jackson. There's his son Kyle. Yeah. That one I don't think is going to happen..

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02:06 min | 1 year ago

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"Leverage you want to get you to be set and ready to throw in you throw within discipline. You're throwing at that point. The ball comes out there. A lot the difference between the great quarterbacks in the NFL and guys who either aren't good enough to start or just good enough to hold onto a job for a little while until they find someone else are the guys who when they see that leverage. They wait another beat or to see the receiver break open by the time. They do that the defenders already recovered and can undercut the ball or a safety on the other side of field in come across and cut off the pass because they're waiting too long to say that I really see what I just saw and you can see that in their footwork with the way that they tap their foot or hop another step or to take an extra hitch when the ball show to come out. And when I look at Daniel when I look at him, he's waiting. He's like did. I really see what I just saw. So he ends to and he waits too long and. Forces the ball in bad situation, or he turns away from route that will break open and goes to something else to see that's quite obvious. So what that tells me that his game is an integrated yet, it's easy to look great throwing to route that you know, isn't covered against era, you know in a drill or seven on sevens. Where the risk isn't huge to make those daring throws. There are a lot of people who auditioned better than they perform. And I think he's one of those guys. All right. So let's turn to a little bit of talk about some of the day three guys. And we'll just call this. What it is. It's the Brett Rippin section of the show. Not Mark Scofield. I know that you know, you indicated earlier that you're also kind of a on the on the Rippin sort of bandwagon fan club, whatever you wanna call it. And I know what Mark sees because we've talked about it. What do you see in Rippin? And is he a guy who could really come out of this class.

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03:58 min | 1 year ago

"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"How do I use the bathroom fluent Chinese and have someone said you you're gonna go three blocks down this way? Go to the first building on the left. It's yellow building with a red door knock three times on the door. And go up these five flights of stairs. There's a purple Dohrn old woman's gonna. Answer. And just ask it, let her know you use the men's room, and she'll take you to a door with a star in a drag on it. And in the time. I said that imagine that said at the same rate and Chinese and you will be studied it for three months. You're basically, you're basically gonna need a clean up on aisle five, you know, I was gonna say all you have to be. You know? I mean, that's basically what happened to wet is pants pretty much. There was a blitz protection that needed to be called or that. There was a play call and Jeff Fisher's offense than even though. The offense wasn't great. He was having to learn the stuff and over think this kind of thing. And that's that's the problem that he had the extreme of what happens to rookie quarterback's everywhere when they have to learn a dense offense, and what made Sean McVay so great was he limited the offense because he decided that let's put the into the hands of the players to diagnose things on the field will run some of the same similar place. So they can read how the defense is adjusting. Then come back to those plays and make adjustments as opposed to have an encyclopedia going on that one play. We played on third one in the middle of the second quarter. Let's go back to that in you know, in the fourth quarter. I mean, you can do that. When you have a quarterback who's played for eighteen years. You know, you don't do that with a quarterback who's played for one. So before I let you pontiff Kate about Brett Rippin for a little while. What I wanna do? There's two other guys. I think we need to talk about. Well, we're at thirty seven we need to talk about Daniel Jones. We need to talk about Jarret stidham. Let me quickly say about Jones, we know all about David cut cliff. We know all about all of the connections with the giants. We know all about all of those things. And we know, you know, Daniel Jones looks the part the other thing I want to say about stood him. Is it brings up for me? You know what Marx? Go field is talked about so-so career great at the senior bowl in the thing. I want you to address withstood him is is which one do you pay more attention to? Yeah. Those are great questions. And let's start with this. Listen, I know that David cliff is probably a little near and dear to the hearts of anyone who's who's washed. Eli manning play and admired what he has been able to accomplish for the giants over the course of his career. But let's understand something David cut cliff as good of a coach he is as good of a teacher that he is you still have to have great students, and what about all the other quarterbacks who've entered the NFL as David cliff guy who didn't make it like the Manning's. You know, is that the blame cut cliff? No because cut cliffs done his job. But he's a teacher. There's only so much that he can do. So sometimes I think this whole cut cliff influence thing has a little bit more influence inflated value to value to making these decisions than it. Should you know, because it's you know, you can have you can have a great teacher. But unless you're a great student. You know, I know quarterback coaches and many of them are pretty. Honest about saying, hey, I've coached some really good students, and I hope and I I've never impart things on them. But you know, me bragging about me having these guys as a student that helps from marketing, but let's be honest. It's just the fact that I inherited a great student. You know, who's able to take the information I can impart in use efficiently. So you know, when you look at Daniel Jones, he is exactly what the old school to NFL valuation of the position is which is he's big he came. He's intelligent in terms of books. Marts?.

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01:53 min | 1 year ago

"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Terrible offense of line not much around him a team that justifiably won only three games. I think it's as you said other rookie quarterback's have have compiled bad statistics in their first your ally. Manning was bad as a rookie. I think it's just hard to hold anything that happened in Arizona last year against Josh Rosen. I think I think he's wherever he lands in two thousand nineteen it's a clean slate. Start over for Rosen. Yep. Absolutely. And that's I think that's one of those things that it's hard for people to understand that sometimes. And they they don't realize that this is this is a game that does require a lot of surrounding talent to help in a lot and inactivation period. And if your offense of lot if you're often of head coach didn't really have a game plan until preseason because he literally said, we're going to wait and see what people do well and don't do well to to build a scheme around that. It sounds good on the surface. But it didn't work out in execution because what you ended up with was an overly dense disorganized mass. And that's not helpful when you're trying you know with quarterbacking. You can't think you have to react to what you see. There's all these layers of information that you have to understand along with applying your technique. Well, which is your technique is something that has to be kept up with the way that -sition keeps up with their technique on a daily basis and. If you're having to over think basic things basically information that you've already spent years practicing, and you're having to focus on those types of things. Because of the fact that the offense is making you slowdown and over thank things you're in trouble. You're in trouble. I've always joked around that Jared Goff having to learn the learned the.

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02:12 min | 1 year ago

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"I'm Spencer hall from Espy nation. And I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart. It seems mart as the show about people doing things that for some reason or another seems smart at the time. Those things might include doing a little cocaine driving a bike up mountain or I don't know maybe racing one hundred miles per hour across the country in the middle of the night with no one's permission or even stealing a bat from an empire is room in a major league baseball park, check it out. And if you like it tell a friend, I'm Spencer hall. Don't do anything smart. So let's let's turn to we've talked about six we've talked about seventeen the next pick that the giants have in the draft is that thirty seven, and there's been some discussion of maybe the giants would kick the can you know into the second round. Maybe they'll just kick the kin in the two thousand twenty for someone like just in Herbert or Jake from. Let's keep it framed. In terms of value at thirty seven. In your mind on the you know, the quarterbacks that might be remaining. Who are the value guys that might be there at thirty seven who who could actually become at least, you know, capable NFL starters. I have one in mind, and he's actually on the top of my board. Overall. And he's like he's being talked about as a second round pick right now. But may rise into the late. I and and again, if you have your thirty seven you can use that to trade back into the light. I if you like this guy, and he reminds me a lot of Tony Romo. And there are a lot of early second. They're not a lot. But there's some significant names early in the second round who've been good quarterback. Like, drew Brees will Greer is that player out of West Virginia. I think will Greer's an underrated quarterback who's creative. He's intuitive..

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01:57 min | 1 year ago

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"If you're not throwing from a balanced position, you're more prone to throw inaccurate passes or force passes into situations that you shouldn't. And that's why he throws more hospitals hospital balls. I I don't think I had heard that term before. But yes, some of the hits I saw some of the Missouri wide receivers take this year. We're we're not good at all. No. And you we know that we've you see why receivers they understand they're they're getting paid lots of money, and this is a profession and that some point some of these wide receiver. Are gonna go. Listen, I'm not going for that. I'm not golfer that business. I I have five years left on my deal. I would like to make that kind of money and pay off my house, you know, like to have a college fund for my kid. I'm not doing that. And some people will say, you know, diehard fans will say certain things about that. And I understand. I mean, there's a sentiment where you want guys to sacrifice your for your team on a level. That's big and certain games. You want expect them to take that risk? But you know, I still think that applies to everyday life. And and you know, there's certain things on your job that if someone told you to to make the ultimate sacrifice wasn't in your job is. I'm pretty sure this ain't people saying that stuff would their sim situations that are parallel to their own lives where they probably don't do that at all. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I'm not sure I would I would, you know, jump off a cliff in Acapulco or something to get an interview with alive manning or something like that. Exactly. Exactly. I'm not standing in front of a bus and waiting for it to hit me. I'm sorry. No. But yeah. But I'm glad that to hear you you say that that I was right to be concerned about because that was one of the things that that jumped off, you know, as I was watching some drew lock is boy his wide receivers are taking a lot of hits. Yeah. Get your brackets ready..

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03:52 min | 1 year ago

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"And so the rob he's getting the ball there on time to the route and spot needs to be he doesn't do. So because he's gotten away in high school and in college of being able to make some throws at others. Can't from an off bounce position thing Jay Cutler thing Matthew, Stafford think Jeff George thing. I think guys like that and coaches have been like we've got other. To worry about you know, that's something he can work on his own. And if he's productive for us. Well, you know, I mean, we can talk to him about it. But that's up to him to work on it. And if we're winning or were doing or he's our best quarterback in that, you know, at that that this juncture doing those things, then whatever. And I think that what happens is when he I watched him against better opponents like top SEC teams like Alabama and Florida and LSU teams like that. You would see him try to play the way he supposed to which is with tempo with better footwork, and he would look better in those instances where he executed that. But because he was playing teams that were able to break down his offense of line quicker as the game started to progress, and he had less and less time, you know, that kind of fellow part two for him. But he's also the consistency being able to do it wasn't there. Because when you have all these layers of skills that you're learning a quarterback. You can't just. Turn them on and off like a light switch. They have to be consistent like thermostat and he doesn't have thermostat game. He has a light. Switch game right now in you and for quarterback in the NFL, those baseline skills need to be lights. You know, be thermostat consistent, Pat, Mahomes with his off balanced footwork. And all the things that he did one of things I always talked about with him as if people over emphasize all that off platform stuff because if you actually wash his feet, they were very quick and precise. And maybe they weren't always according to the to the, you know, very prototypical technique you're looking for, but he threw from balanced positions. And he got set in the way that he needed to or with lock. You're not seeing that. So I'm have real concerns about him being consistent. He'll make throws people. Go see that's a top five play right there. And I'll go that's great. You found the four leaf clover clover patch now don't but instead of telling me that there's four leaf clovers all over the clover. Patch while. See if you can find fifteen more of those for me before you start telling me that this is the lucky clover patch that you found. You know, let me let me throw something else out for you in reference to to lock in something that that bothered me. And it's not footwork. It's not necessarily fundamentals something that bothers me when I watched drew lock play is the number of times he makes throws where his wide receivers. Get crushed times. He basically throws wide receivers into trouble. Am I just am? I am I imagining that or is that something that speaks to his judgment. Or what does that speak to? I think it speaks to the same thing. I'm talking with just another symptom of the problem because when you when you lean on your arm to bail you out, and you you're not thinking ahead. And if you're thinking ahead, you become more considered a factors like where do I place the ball for the? Wide receiver. You know? Because if you're if you're Tom Brady your Peyton Manning, or or, you know, even ally, you know, as best is that when you have time to drop back survey the field do things in rhythm, and you're playing with the tempo you need to. So that you can tip information. You're not just trying to fit the ball to the open, man. So if you're not throwing with anticipation, if you're.

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04:17 min | 1 year ago

"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Sometimes leads to lack of mature decisions at times, which gets exacerbated with that that offensive line. So he's a great back. But yeah, this is exactly what would happen when you get matched with a line that just isn't doing great work. And we all love we all love those explosive plays. But I also your offense doesn't function when you're among the league leaders in negative plays either. No. And that's why you know, one of the things that's important about running back play is how good of a decision. Do they make when it comes to down and distance and field position because and Barkley is good Barclays way better than good? But he's he's solid enough in that department. But at the same time there are going to be times, especially as a rookie where you can get impatient. And if you if you're starting from a negative place, suddenly the playbook is closed off. And now, you're not your offense has no shot of being efficient and no shot of being productive because you're starting off in a place where the percentages of plays that are going to number plays. You can use the percentage of success or likely success for those plays dwindles dramatically when it's now second fifteen or third and twelve. Right. So you know, we we've gone off and talk a little bit about ally. Now, we've talked about the offense of line in the running game. And I did say at the top of the show we were mostly going to talk about quarterbacks in the draft. Did I well, you know, it all fits the other? Right. Sure. It's you know, it all it all works together. So what I wanna do what I wanna do. We talked about the sixth pick. And we talked about twain Haskins. You know, we talked a little bit about, you know, drew lock also maybe not being value at six the giants. Thanks to the Odal Beckham trade also have the seventeenth pick. Now the way quarterbacks come off the board. Who knows maybe locking Haskins are gone by the sixth pick, you know, more than likely, you know, one or both of them is probably gone by the seventeenth pick. But should either of those guys be available at seventeen. Do you see them? We'll go back to the value discussion you see one of them or both of them as value at seventeen. I would prefer Haskins at seventeen I still don't see lock as value at seventeen and we'll talk a little bit more about lock. And I think the reason being is that lock has the big arm, and you you're gonna hear from a, you know. Sometimes we heard from you know, corporate media, the kind of the larger media outlets that have, you know, sound soundbite amount of time to discuss players may give a short dirty comparison to Patrick Mahomes because of the ability to make off platform throws. But drew lock doesn't have the discipline of footwork doesn't have the discipline of tempo doesn't really or his arm slots to actually make the decisions that he should make. He is a guy that has the talent that you could look at him. And if he were applying it correctly, he would be a top five pick. But the problem is when you watch his gain he's wildly inconsistent. And and I hate to you know, link motivation to a player who by all accounts works hard. And by all accounts, you know, as good team leader in the locker room from what I hear. But he's a young man and young men sometimes are give are sometimes they are. Abled in a way that if it's worked for them, and at a certain level, and they're doing well, then they don't have to address things that are really gonna help them down the line. You can be a good guy. You could be a hard worker and not always work on the right things and one of the things that he doesn't work on. And hasn't worked on enough yet is that his footwork is sloppy. It's he just walked back from the pocket. He's not always in the positioning needs to be throw the ball at balance. And that means he's not gonna throw it always accurately because he leans on that ability to throw off platform with his arm. And sometimes you'll see throws that he could set up and fire the ball with quicker rhythm..

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"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

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04:11 min | 1 year ago

"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"And I think they have the confidence that they've got enough core players in place that they just need to get maybe four to five more on at various positions to be able to solidify this could be moving in the right direction again funny. How it largely always comes down to the big guys in front who who do the blocking? Yeah. Yeah. But it's you do sound like, you know, Dave Gettleman, Pat Shurmur have both said that they. They continued to insist they believe they can play good football. Good offensive football with the ally Gettleman has said he thinks it's a false narrative that manning can't play anymore. And I think we all know that a guy who's thirty eight thirty nine and throwing his sixteenth season isn't going to be physically exactly what he was you know, ten years ago, but ice still think we saw enough at the end of the season. And it really wasn't intending get into an ally discussion with you. I think we saw enough that there's reason to think that they're right in the short term, you it sounds like you agree with that. I absolutely do. And I'm just going to give quick little analogy that I think will fit without even having to talk about it in football terms. Imagine the fact that you're hungry, and you wanna go to a local diner, and you know. That diner makes something that you really like whether it's a Philly, or at some sort of chili or some sort of you know, Meatloaf that they make this really good. And you know that that chef who's been doing it for the past. You know, short order cook has been doing it for the past fourteen fifteen eighteen years, however, long has been doing it is great at it. And he has a certain set of directions on how to do it. And he knows this acquit -ment in what's around him to do the job. Now, if you asked him to make something that, you know, Gordon Ramsay might make you know with you know, his culinary background. He might panic and not play all may not be able to do that in. It might not. It'd be a very good dish. But you know, what he can do. And if you give him the environment to do it in he's going to be fine. And it could actually end up being great and far more satisfying me meal as long as he has all the things he needs around him to do his job and. Madden's like that short order cook. He's never going to be Gordon Ramsay. He's never going to be the guy who's going to do the tremendously creative stuff. But if you give him what he needs, you know, in that environment. And that's what they're they're banking on than he can be good enough for this team to win. Even if he's never gonna be, you know, the elite quarterback in the defined sense that no one's where there's no debate about it. Thank you for that. Because I have been banging that drum free years. Now that that ally is still ally is what he is in the biggest difference between what we see now. And what we saw back in the day when the giants were contending for Super Bowls. The biggest thing that we see that's different is the cast around him. And the idea that they just they haven't run the football. Even last year was Barkley. They didn't run the football that. Well, I think that some of the advanced stats that Bill Conley of Espy nation put together showed that they had you know, they were they were way up at the top in explosive place. But in terms of running officiency down to down getting what you should get out of every single play. They were I think thirtieth in the league, you know, that was just my concern about Barclay. Pre draft. If he didn't if he got matched with a team that didn't have good blocking up front because he'd have to create from self and the combination of poor blocking and the combination of his desire to be creative and hit those big plays..

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"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

03:49 min | 1 year ago

"matt waldman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Of the Valentine's views podcast giants fans. I'm your host Ed van ton. And on today's show. We are going to focus on a topic that no one in giants land cares about these days that no one cared about for the last couple of years. We're going to focus on the quarterback topic. And to to help us with that. I'm going to bring in special guest. Matt waldman. One of the most knowledgeable quarterback people that I know and met joins us right now. How you do in Matt. I'm doing great, Ed. Thanks for having me on again. I heard you kind of chuckle there in the background when I said no giants fan cares about quarterback. Yeah. Well, you know, I appreciate your sense of humor. Well, you know, nobody. I mean, I'm not a comedian. But we gotta try to have some fun around here. Really? You know, exactly. And hopefully, we'll have a good have a good time talking about these prospects. Because even though this is not seen as the most amazing class out there. There's some interesting players who could develop I know in you know. You know, Mark Scofield does some work for me. He does some work for you. And he's been going through some of these guys. So we're you know, we're for us. So we're familiar with them a little bit. But I, you know, to be honest with you, I gotta get someone else's take other than marks because I'm really tired of of Mark kneeling at the altar of Brett Rippin. Well, you know, Mark is a great guy. So he's fund the also poke fun at as well. And and he you know, he doesn't credibly strong work as a quarterback on an analyst. And so it's it's kind of funny because y- you may find that if we get on that topic of Brett Rippin that I may actually also be on that bandwagon. But but I don't but Marc has definitely milled the mill the wood and built the built the wagon. So I you know, we can leave it at that. So so so let's start here. The the giants brain trust. Obviously, they the giants have the sixth overall pick. We hear Dave Gettleman talk a lot about value. We hear Pat Shurmur talk about it. We hear John Mero talk about you know. Yes, we wanna quarterback. Yes. We wanna follow the, quote, unquote, Kansas City model and all of that. And yet we want value at the sixth pick. If it's Dwayne Haskins or drew lock which are the two guys that would be considered at six if they're still on the board is that value in your mind or are those guys who who in an ideal world just wouldn't be going that early in a draft. Yeah. I don't think it's value to get those guys. I think you can get better. A better prospect later may be better prospects plural later as maybe the second round if they have I haven't kept track for the giants second round pick. But if they do in the early second round, or they can trade up into the end of the first round than I think they may be getting value at that position there because Haskins unlock Haskins I would prefer over lock. And I think he might be worth that pick. The problem is we know he's only played one year. And that inexperience is is not. Not so much because he hasn't played a lot that we're worried that he's not as good as shown is just that. We haven't seen a complete comfort level of what he can or can't do and that's a subtle difference..

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