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The McElroy brothers are not experts, and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists. He's a sex part, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also. This show isn't for kids which I mentioned only. So the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up you call. The not too. But not. Welcome to my brother. My brother and me, and if I show for the module era, oldest brother, Justin McElroy. I'm your middle. Travis Maccarone. I'm your sweet baby brother. Thirty Griffin McElroy, right? Hey. Self edit their cut it out. Yeah. So this time for another favorite part of the famed show everyone's beloved segment. Travis macaroni touched by the Hollywood angels. Yeah, by Hollywood angels, I wear. Just let her just let her rip is. I'm just going to sit back and let it wash over me. I'm so sorry, boys because I went to the New York Comecon at a lot of good times, Matt, a lot of cool people. Most of them. Did you meet the doctor. I match. Folks. We are met the Matt Smith. A dog is comeback. Somebody else we Biblically. Do you guys think that random people just show up at conforming compatriots house? It's really the doctor. My car, my exploded getting my Dotson quick. I don't have been the back talking Billie piper has been kidnapped eighteen times. I don't. I don't have money. Can you take me out for a. A nice, a nice, Berg chips. You all love fish, fingers and custard, and then also like steak and vegetables, and maybe I heat lineman's now. Two hearts. Bullshitted lead four hundred dollars this in my I one thousand dollars a my time box, but I'm going to sell it for a million on it. Just ran out of gas and I'm trying to get to me sisters to pick up more money. So if you give me a thousand quid. I will be back with five hundred thousand quid through time and space. I'm gonna go back in time and invest in apple, ain't I? But only one thousand could lease for all you betting almanac all I need to do. Crikey. Yeah, that was not the celebrity touched by? No, no. Sorry. Day one as I was walking into the building through the and I'm not gonna brag you, but talent entrance. I walked side by side with one Mr.. Mark, the Ruffalo buffalo Ruffalo what's the smell describe it? Everything it. Okay. What do you think he smells like yells books? And here's the thing. You know, sometimes you see someone in your Mike. I think that's a celebrity. Who is that? Is that the? I have never Moore quickly like like, yeah, that's a Mark Ruffalo like there was. No, yes, sure. Looks exactly. Like alert act Mark Ruffalo was he see low kind of like all celebs are like. He was exact picture what you think Mark Ruffalo is? Yes. Do you think that could be part of the fact that a love, the rough -able Ruffalo buffalo, you know this about he kinda is just doing. Him a lot of times a lot of not necessarily buried in the character. You're doing some permutation of its different sides of the same coin, but it is that original roughly coin. I just had ideal of a century, the mask the mask two or three starring Mark Ruffalo who puts on the mask and becomes a sort of wild sort of physical comedy, antics clown, man, I actually think Griffin if Margaret put on the mask, the mask could be like you win. Oh, I see. I'm now I'm Mark Mark Ruffalo and here's the amazing thing is I turn to him. I huge fan of the avengers in the marvel universe, and he said, thank you. And I said, I loved on the cliffhangers at, can't wait to find out what happens. And he said, well, what do you want to know? And I kind of jokingly said everything and he told me everything. He told you all the secrets. Yeah. And I'm I, I don't know how much I'm allowed to tell you guys how much you wanna know a little bit of it though. Okay. Well, of course heavy spoilers this point forward. Real and true, right? Yes. As not know as they went and sent. A big majority of of the next movie takes place in Stanley's coma. Oh, where Stanley is like a character inet this isn't ripped. This is not ripped from the headlines though. Right? But no is I don't know, but, but you said it. I got like he is a character in it as okay, talking with captain America and the hall inside. And just just remember that this podcast is a mummy's tomb just full of curses for every celebrity nine. So Mark Ruffalo also should be. Lynch like were looking at like Stanley saying, why did you create us? Father? And there's a lot of that stuff share Scher Spiderman is becomes a spider, a tiny spider, and he does save a piglets life. Interesting told me about. Yeah. Is there anything wanna know? Well, I wanna know if you felt sort of guilty immediately after this interaction that you approached him and said, you were fan of the marvel universe, because I bet you Mark Ruffalo just always waiting for somebody to come up to him and ask them about the FOX catcher averse. Just sort of the extended FOX catcher. Diverse kids. All right. And he said, the kids are alright. And I said, I love how the spotlight of the mind goes on at Turnley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he got that. He thought that was very climbing. Yeah. And then I says, the science was in now you use one of the science guy and the nice ad. So what's up with Spiderman and purple faced guy, Mark rough, though. Science of? Uh-huh. Mara science. Okay. Did you how he played? I don't know if you guys remember the played Beekman and beakman's world be interesting. That was that was Paul's Aloom Jesus Christ tomato. Did you ask him how pre production? What's going on? Fourteen going on thirty one. Yeah, he going well. Okay. Like the, he asked to go through a lot of prosthetics to look that young again. I mean fourteen fourteen years old. Yeah, actually going on thirteen. Where he plays the thirty, but he didn't want a trial actor blame him because he thought that'd be weird and he was looking for a chance to be transformative like we talked about earlier. So he is playing the thirteen year old to share and he's like, I'm gonna go invest in some apple stocks. Yeah, should we do advice now we've done talked about wanna know anymore about mcgruff low in what he told me about the marvel cinematic universe in the direction they're taking it. I got to be lies from your own guys. They're going to do a vengeance babies. Yeah, yeah, for sure how many also locked in, but also avengers oldies where it's all of them in a retirement home together. Okay. Yeah, I don't hate it. Avengers teens and they're on like a Riverdale kind of thing. Yeah. And then adults, adults adventure avengers avengers vampires. Have you ever avenged even anything? It's just like aliens coming. Let's get them. You're not ventures. You're sort of Divi defenders. You know what I mean? You know what? I'm going to change the name to changing it to the defenders, and they're gonna do that retroactively in rerelease. All the move is for forty dollars. You can forty dollars. You can get defenders, but also it's going to be packaged with the Lord of the rings movies because they're trying not marvel cinematic universe. Defenders has the incredible mulk and Geyer guy. Now why would they change their names? Griffin. I don't know, man, I just really wanted to advice. I've been like excited to advice all week. I didn't think we'd get excited talk about Paul's Aloom and that went nowhere. That was a real Leadville real. By the way that shows huge Latin America, and you can see pictures of he still like down there. Grinding it out in the whig thing. All right. All right, huge on there. You gotta see folks get online, see pictures, appalls limb doing the Beekman things still washing kids. Latin American flipped their shit, two seconds like so rip so. So if you gotta meet TV affiliate Sundays at eight AM the fucking crank pigments world. Again, if you wanna see Beekman he's back. He's on at eight AM anyway. Let's help PayPal. This first question says, Justin, I want a great book as a gift for the special doctor or really anybody in my life. Do you have any suggestions? It's funny. The Saul bones book is out. This came out last week and folks flying off the shelves. You can find a copy you gotta pick this thing up dot l. y. for it, slash the Saul bones book. And here's our next. That's funny. Just in the next question says, I'm not in the mood for book right now, but in six months, I think I would like to read a graphic novel. Oh, we'll good news is funny adventures comic dot com. You can pre-order book to never gonna make it six months folks via. Today. And a book for later. This is three. Third question says in eighteen months. I'm in the mood to read Griffin macro as parody book of seven hundred seven days call seven hundred and one fun days. Well, good news. Pre-order, it now at books dot dog. Hey, I want a book that's going to pick up my spirits and lifts my mood folks. There's one you can get. Right now by Johnny son and Lin Manuel Miranda and it is called good morning. Good night. Little pep talks for me to you. Shouldn't you go pick up this number one best-seller in the self esteem category? I think you should. That's going be out October sixteenth as the co flies. Make sure you get your copy. I know I did pillow pep in my step for sure. At home. How just side note how much a, what's our cut of every sale of that one hundred percent. Whoa. Yeah, that's a good deal. I mean for us it's a terrible deal for them for sure. What's the first real question from like the God's honest truth real question on this list, my university students, Dan try again. No annual marriage. Three words ending again, Daniel back at it again with the wife and, hey, how come that kid was allowed to cuss out much at school. Yeah, I know, right? He was like yelling curse words a lot at school. If vine was seven seconds, you would've seen the principal be like, excuse me, Philip, excuse me detention the tension back at it again with the school Dag dadgum at Daniel. Gosh, darn h e, double hockey hockey, six Sanyal back at it again with the white van piss Daniel. Can't counts as let's the first question I'm dying. University require students to pick up packages at the bookstore, and thanks to my kind friends and family. I find myself at the bookstore once or twice a week. You know why you're there. Shit. There was like a whole fucking thing built into this. The woman who is always in to no caps here running. The bookstore told me you're in here every day. I seem she has made me self conscious. It worked until couple of days ago. Matter of factly. This is our second time coming in here today. It was not. Is the package lady confusing me for another student or is she stuck in a time loop? How do I face her next time that's for frazzled in for Dona, New York. I really enjoy the the question asker assumption here is that this woman working at the bookstore was of course doing this just to make themselves conscious. Yeah. Now it's making them think that they do have a twin or because that can be like you work at a bookstore, really any sort of retail gig. You gotta make the fun. You know what I mean? And so maybe that means you bring a, you know, some some Sedova coup books in with you. And sometimes it means trying to convince people that they do in fact have twins, or maybe that you try to convince people that they have been John Malkovich d- which it sounds like maybe that is what they're trying the game, the game they're trying to pull right now. Maybe it's not. It might not be alive, may not be game. You may have been John Malkovich d- of that's it's so important. Okay. Listen when you like sit down to read a book or lay down and go to bed or something. Take like one hair of your head lake, both and stick it across the door frame and the door. Yeah. Now way, if it's gone when you wake back up, you know you've been in John. Malkovich should go ahead and balance it on the bridgier knows and moves you the John Malkovich door. I've not seen the film, but the John they get in there, I guess, seen the film? No, I, it's, it seems a little too. I don't know adult. Point in the John Malkovich being John Malkovich film with John Malkovich goes than his own John Malkovich door. I think famously famously, yes, I think that does in fact, you guys know that you're on SNL. We're John Malkovich road. Read Twas the night before, Chris? Yes, yeah. Had kind of spooky sides. If I was be John Malkovich and -ducted I was like, hey. Hi, this is Charles vich. Is this why manager? Good. That's why you're saved on my cell phone. Hey, listen, I'm a little fuzzy on line. Have already done that. Great bit SNL. Okay. Well, I'm gonna leave that. I just wanted to duck in for that. And I was wanting to make sure that had happened. No, I wanted to experience that. So like I I would hang out in John Malkovich for, I don't know, I would say at least five days to be able to do that bit on SNL. Sure. Do you ever think about the fact that they just completely missed the opportunity to make a series of movies that were like being John Malkovich being Samuel, Jackson sheriff shirt, like, okay, my Rudolph, we are. That's what he is always on the lookout for is a franchise spike. Joe loves a franchise. Dare is there is there are so many conversations happening about how get out is unofficially a part of being John Malkovich averts, but that's neither here nor there. What is going on here in this exact situation in Fredonia New York. I think this person is probably confused. I mean, that would be my best bet that they've just made some sort of non funny air. Yeah, can you have and take a picture of you every time you quote unquote, you come in. So then you at least know if you do have a. Adopt ganger or twins separated at birth. It can happen folks that has happened does happen all the time. I've seen it a probably on like ABC family every probably every third set of twins, get separated break. Here's a. okay, I got a good test. I got a good test. Tell this person the next time. Did they see every time they see you in the store for the next week to force feed you? A bunch of peanuts. Oh, all right. Okay. But think about this if that person balloons up or has a an NF lactic response than that's your twin because that that's like, that's genetic way put hold on. Just nowhere in this. Does the question ask you say that they are allergic to peanuts, but if they're not allergic, it will work. Yeah. Did you even fucking think of that before you open your what? Look? I'm the asshole here. I guess if say the next time, tell the person the next time that you quote unquote, you come in, have them hold her or them in like bookstore jail. Yeah, arrest them. You're saying. ICICI. Yes. So have have the bookstore worker person hold your twin until you can get there and investigate. I said, for me, that is we'll be the cookbooks action because good luck getting me out of there. Find my way. I mean, Brits have the librarian of the storm. Checker fingerprints, eve, it's a batch for there's, you know, they got that ink for when they do the stamps in the book thing. Do people still do that? Probably not because. Bring back. Wait, what. Keep this. It also could be, you know, a hurricane heist where they know that you're getting your packages delivered there every other day. And so they know you're a rich target mission, impossible three d. printed out a Maske, your face and they will go in and they'll get all the packages that's another. There's so many reasons why you need to install a series of webcams all around this bookstore or library. No one's quite sure what it is. There are rumors. It could be either one. You guys wanna got who loved one. Thank you. I got this one sending by lots of people. It's yahu answers user. Billy who asks, do you think Neil Armstrong filled his space diaper during the moonwalk serious answers, please? I'm work- I'm working on my dissertation related to the moon. Let that first sentencing can. All right one more time I'm working on my dissertation related to the moon. We now know that the moon's week gravity. It loosens astronauts ballots did early astronauts, no. This, or did they find out the hard way. I'm okay. Listen. If this here this is a peer reviewed knowledge source. Find on Nexis Lexis. Is this Yahoo answer? I need it from dissertation, so there are many things that I am not one of them is gas for into the. Yeah, tummy Dr one of them and to you, scientists like in any way, really covers that as well. Sure. But my no pun intended gut reaction is that this is not true about space, loosening yet. Okay. Because I have been on like roller coasters and rides stuff that spun me around in such a way that I imagine in less fund way they do when they're training you to be an astronaut, and it has never made me shit myself. Amazing. Okay. What's wrong? Are you telling me Travis that the fact that you have been on a roller coaster? Uh-huh. Uniquely positions you to? Yes, comment on the facts. Space travel on the human body is this? Is this what you just said? Not as a joke, but as a real thing. But more than that, just and I started originally before I thought of the roller coaster thing with no evidence to back it up. And then the rollercoaster thing occurred to me and I was like, wait, hold on. I'm onto something here and now I do. Yes, I do feel very strongly about the fact that I've been on it tilts world and I have not fit my pants. And so I think that probably meal Armstrong was probably fine. All right. I just a cursory Google and we will get back to the question because it merits discussions hot subject. This is our first man watch, but I did find that. Low gravity being low gravity makes it difficult to tell if your bladders full because the bladder stretch receptor nerves don't feel the weight of the liquid astronauts are trained to empty their bladders every two hours because of this. So these are the world's most elite scientists, the world's most bravest explorers space. Pioneers risking their lives and just everything to go up into the dangerous in bliss expansive outerspace to further our scientific pursuits, they are geniuses. They are brave. They are the best of us, and also they have a little special watch. They wear to let the know tinkle time Riyadh hundreds, twenty minutes. They have to go potty, they stop and go right away. Yeah, exactly. Houston, I've learned the cells of separated up here in zero gravity, furthering the research into cheering cancer. I think we've finally got up time for me to go in the space potty. I need to go tinkle tinkle and make yellow Houston. So gimme a bit. It's yellow time. Now, grid typically fair, not knowing if you have to go to the potty versus automatically uncontrollable good to the potty is two different things. Is it possible? This is not actually having a fact that they're just poured. I would imagine try to use a space toilet is the highlight of space travel. The dark. Who cares like you're looking forward to that next time that you like you're just quit on your thumbs, hoping that you're going to have to take Dickey any any moment now? Gosh, what else we are talking about this? And I think the question asked her is talking about this in such a way of like, do you think Neil Armstrong might of like lost control of his bow? But I think the opposite is true. We're probably like after five minutes of being on the new moon we on, it was like, I'm going to be the first man to shit on the moon. Yeah, you definitely did that or. Cranks, but there's something that happened. They have you ever listened inside the sleeve of his face it. He could and he didn't know plant the flag meal. He's call. I'm doing that in a manner of speaking, you've listened to, hey, y'all ever listened to that tape where he's talking about how it talk about how you crank. Now, he's talking about how he's taking one big step for guys guys. He says, once he says, one huge leap for boys and he doesn't listen to it. What every check out my moon cave. I mean, man, cave. This is so and my other dudes hang out here. He did declare when he plan to flag the moon is for boys. I saying. But give. The big radical white rock just for. Boys, boys only said, Neal, you have to come back now and he played on the moon. Own boss to be around a boy in on the mood. And the first time cliffs happy. He went around apologizing. Sorry, guys, my boy Roc gotten away the sign. I apologize it shouldn't happen. So have you listened to the tape? I mean, I've seen it in like alien movies. Describe his. Well, have you listened to? It's on library congress website, which I'm on all the time. He sounds sheepish a little bit. He sounds a little. He sounds a little bit and for lack of a better term just kind of Nadi while he's doing. And I do any wouldn't say it right like that was being broadcast to the whole world world's is were watching the stars, the cosmos. As we took our first, you know. The intrepid steps into our destiny in the in the galaxies beyond a did have poop on his. But when he said it, probably if you listen to the tape, if you really listen to it, and I mean really, really listened to it and the way that he walks in the video of you watch it is the way that BB walks when she's got proven xactly as -actly. Yeah. Do you think it was like, obviously, he gets out there. He gets out there. He's walking around sesame. I'm the first on the first man on the moon. Amazing. Do you think it took him a little while before he? He let buzz get out because he was trying to think of things. He could be the first one to do. I, I don't know how I I would wanna be the first to do so many different things on the mood would be so irritating to know that I had to let buzz out like buzz. I want to like, hey, hey, hey, look at me. I did. I did you the. I don't know the hand jive unit from Gran. Just actually did that too. Before you came out. Make so much sense to me just because you're a member when Buzz Aldrin stepped on the minute. He said, I'm the first second person on the moon Armstrong immediately, murdered him. Yeah, kills kilter dead. Man, I think buzz had a mobile. He's like, I'm not gonna get. Fuck it. He's. He son Neil doing armpit farts on the moon. He's like, man, there's nothing left to do. Let's do. I Damien Zell rain for interview house. A strip come along for I man and buzz. Still gonna call it that right? Like you promise, I man and buzz. I have been very excited to go many, many places in my life, and I would say nine times out of ten, you build it up really big, and then you get there and you're like, oh, okay. So how long do you think they were on the moon before there? It was like, all right. There's nothing here like nothing to do. There's no TV or like movies or anything like get back in and just head on home. You know, Neil is hoping there'd be some big worms. He could fight. That's half of that's half. A first man is then like working on all the science and Ryan Gosling, you know, getting, you know, inventing help, invent big rocket ship and doing zero g training. And then there's a scene where like he goes and he learns how to master the Qatada so he can fight the big worms that he knows. He knows. I know there's going to be big, weren't arguing with his wife is why. Why is it you? Why do you have to leave our family behind? He's like, I'm the only one that can kick those big worms asses. I'm gonna chosen one. I'm the chosen one out swigging providence. Here. He came out of guilt. Other words I kill over on the move. I got worm blood all over me and hours. Do you think during training for India limb buzz on probably someone else. So they talked to like the the head of downsizing like, okay, and so just in case, what do we do? There are moon men and there's not know buzzers not going to be moon, people like, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Boy, not after I'm game. There are. What do we do. No, I get it. Boy, we like join their society laying into gaming. Laying into gaming. I listen to this week has had I man ads on it, and we just absolutely gave them of free promos spot. You wasted. Money. I don't actually think that's true because we actually described a way more bad ass movie than is almost certainly going to be silverscreen. Yeah, also want to congratulate myself as we are nearing the end of this bit and sort of approaching the precipice the money's for not ever saying Lance when describing Neil Armstrong, I've done that pretty much every time I talked about space on cloud cast. Good job and actually now that I say that, I'm not sure it's true. Yeah. If we're going to finance our own movie about Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong fighting words on the moon, we're gonna need some money. Let's hear the money. Works. I was like, really about Boll and branch. They go nuts. Well, here's the thing in before we've talked about like, oh, they make great sheets and they do listen their sheets mazing not only comfortable, but affordable. I love them, but you know what else? I love that they may. Oh, the tells are so towels. Ever used in my entire life game changers. 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So I think each of us are gonna give you our top number one sort of halo tip, and we're start with Travis Travis. What's your number one halo strategy for victory? You got a romance, the aliens. All right. Yeah, Justin stegosaurs gun baby, which ones that one that looks like a stegosaurus with all the needles coming out of the top. Okay. That was a trap halo is for jokers XBox. It's for dumb dumbs and PlayStations where it's at. I can't believe you guys fell for it. She says, cry. He did get me. You got me again. I have a message for Chris from Bonnie. Thank you for being my other half for the best fifteen years. I think they meant it when they said you can't buy love now. I know you can rent it and I'd like to renew our lease indefinitely. Happy anniversary year. I love you pants and wherever life has taken us when this airs I'll cover you. That was extremely stays. They said, you can buy low. Yeah, you can rent it and I'd like to renew our lease indefinitely Scud ago. I'll like in rant. There's also the matter of. Discover so true. This e. Off Mike, so it's fine. We don't have to cover this to pay for it because it's off Mike off, Mike. So it's fine. Now he's going to give glass of water. Okay. As using the bathroom. When you're. Now he's changing tubers diaper. Okay. Just let him finish. I five five. All right. Well. Travis. Let him go medley. I know you gotta let him go. He gets when he's like this. You have to let him finish to move onto. I'll just be the background. We'll wrap it up. Just don't delay. Vally I refused to give him early. I'm going to just let him all like a bad. You know where shoeless Joe overdone. That's right. Damn Yankees. It's a history of Ron. Sure. It's super good. In what order. My mom come everybody now Pippen rivers belong with. Can Rambo eagles belong with can fly anybody who's this four. What do you look for in a book literally on the bag. It said like this book made me shit my pants. 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Amit Mickey's we've never featured Mickey's on the show. I don't even know what a Mickey's is. It's a bit this year. They're creating a spicy spooky Cheeto pizza. The popularity, the Erie Halloween, food trend? I'm sorry. No, I don't think is it. They had the black Walker, the one time, the spooky black bun Walker, but that's about it that I know it wasn't accident though. That was accident. They fucked up. They lesson ribbons fall into the bun maker. It is burned the bugs real bad, a why. This is a while pressure lease here on QSR. This is one sentence with the popularity of the Erie Halloween food trend combined with the popularity of flaming hot Cheetos period. Is this two thousand nine talking way. Awesome. These hot Cheetos and talkies video. It's new from two thousand and two thousand two thousand from year two thousand. Here's another sentence. Mickey's deemed. It fitting to be the first pizzeria to combine the two period next sentence. The result, the spicy spooky Tito pizza. Why spooky don't be fooled by. It's Bert, like appearance upon I lands. The pizza is actually very tasty. Hey, I know this looks like shit. I promise we didn't fuck it. Looks like garbage the Blau my God. I am looking at j. peg this. It looks like fucking garbage. The black Hugh is created by needing activated charcoal into their fresh homemade dough, but don't worry. I'll clean your teeth. This is a press release for a pizza to eat, but don't worry in terms of flavor. Activated charcoal doesn't have much. Got a little bit of charcoal flavor. Oh my God next to type of cheeses with that possessive apostrophe cheeses are added my God. He's first pizza to have multiple kinds of cheeses isn't a complete sentence in this press release. The monks around provides a creamy, mild taste while the cheddar gives the pizza a balance of flavor and sharpness to top it off flaming hot Cheetos or baked on top adding a bit of spice everybody while perfectly complementing the various flavors. This is my favorite line spicy spooky. Cheetah pizza only comes in a size, large. No measures. Yeah, you dip your toe in this monstrosity. You're going to eat a large and you're gonna like it. I say we talk about food in in one squadron lot that I'm like, but you know what? I'd fuck it, eat it. I'm looking at this piece and it looks like a crime scene. I would not eat it with my worst. Enemies mouth speaking of which the last sentence of this is make sure to come by to get your quote Instagram, -able food posts before. I don't know that we should be, and I know that we are in the ship is sale and we're all doomed, right. But like I don't know that we should be designing food stuffs for the visual novelty. Like I'm not sure we want the the to be verb of all the food or trying to eat to be. You'll have to see what I'm about to put my Monica word. Your voice Ogle. Right. Exactly. No, I want my dinner to be. Rubber that by passers by. Good. You come have chomp of our yucky stunt. Pizza is basically what they're saying here. Yeah, good Presley should it should just be one sentence. Is this anything question Mark? My boss loves buying my boss. My boss loves buying expensive, imported snacks from all around the world. And and then he ships to me once a month, it's a new subscription service and offering it to you all Ted snap Ed snacks. He picks his finest delicacies hates. He picks them up from all around the world. Unfortunately, for me, he loves to share. The problem is whenever he goes to share a snack, he asked me to put out my hand so he can toss me out a portion. He's in waits until I take my hand away what. This is sort of an unwritten ritual as I've gotten comments like, oh, so you're just humoring me when I take too little and okay, that's enough when I have pulled away too late brothers, what the fight, what is the perfect boss pleasing snack portion and dear God? How do I achieve knit chief it? That's from panic a snack. Toronto. I liked it. So you you stick up a hand, the boss up in a bag of, you know, German crunch Im's and starts pouring in your hand and then doesn't stop until you opt out until you have decided you have received a fair amount of German crunch that that's the issue. And sometimes you take two little. The boss thinks you think they're yucky. You take too much the boss thinks you're trying to rob them of all their countries. I would say that if the boss said to me, okay, that's enough. I would look them dead in the I know it's not. It's not enough. I love these things or I bet I love these new. Don't want to deny to you. Here's what option you can have every snack. At your desk all the time. And so when your boss is like, hey, you gotta try these their Australian Pringles and he just upends a can writing for dumping them in your head. You reach into your desk pick out takeout year Cain of us, Jillian Pringles and start dumping them onto the boss. And then it's like, okay, turned into a water feature of reconstituted potato granules. He's dumping them on you. You're dumping them on him and then it will heap away. Will he be the coward I dunno ball's in his court because you can take them all day long. Maybe that's it. Maybe keep a bunch of gallon size, like ziplock bags that your desk and when you just open it up and hold it out, like it's trick or treat. You know what I mean? It's like, Yep, Yep, filler up. I don't like those, but my kids will love them. Yeah, my daughter, I don't have kids of course, but someday my girls, it sounds like. Sounds like. It sounds like your boss may be doesn't like this knacks the boss just likes feeling powerful and has done right, because if the busted this with some life savers Gumy's any take a bunch of it's not big deal. You just run down to the, you know, the super America downstairs and grab some more, but these are irreplaceable. These are irreplaceable treasures. I, I think what you gotta do is one of these times is take all of them, and so they don't take all their chuckle booms. They're their chocolate chocolate booms, and then they take all of them. He doesn't have any more. And then you say starry took two. I took too many in the boss as well. Shoot. I have any more booms and the next time your boss probably won't even give you any more. And I would say also take them all, and then display, no remorse or shame because if they wanted like shame you like, oh, you took all my Saxena say like, well, you gave me all your now. Yeah, I thought you want it when you came over here. I thought you wanted to give me all your chocolate booms guys. I notice that you did not reserve any for yourself, so I guess. Yeah, I thought you hated them. I just had a great idea. Next time he boss comes to you and offers you a snack, look at them in the islands and repeat this extremely powerful phrase. Does it contain saffron? I'm extremely, extremely leisure to saffron. I recently discovered that and it's life a lot harder. But you know, as smart about it's not usually problem, so I will die if I eat any saffron. So how much that front of these have him? Can you swear on my literal life that there's no saffron in these snacks and then you're fine. Yeah, you'll never eat another snack again for his Ozzy live. Yeah. But now finding y'all, can you imagine though? I think what if they look like really good now one, if they look and everyone in the officers was like these crimes. But magin I think even is right. This is a power move, right? But imagine if you did like stick the landing because it's like, I don't know. Two and a half seconds of of like Trump's boring is the right amount and your bosses like so ready to like, shame you one way or the other, but then you mail the amount and it's like, well, that is the perfect amount, shoot the boss like, and then everyone lives you up on their shoulders and like chance you out of the building, lost his all's into just chocolates. The only way to make sure you get the perfect amount is to make your boss be the one that cuts off. And I think that you can do that is when the boss comes over and says, haircut, some troubles you wanna. You wanna try. Some you say share and you just open your mouth. Yes. And the boss has to put them right in the mouth. And when he stops you've had an, I think you've had enough and you'll always have your hands full. Yeah, and reaches in your mouth to put Chaka boom on your tongue, and you chopped down and he pulls his hand back and kinda giggles. I can Pretty Woman. Or maybe your mouth and you say too many say. And now it's on him. He's the Malkovich. You could also just eat as many too little take too little, and he says, seems like you didn't like them and you eat them and you go. And then you also never get snacks again from there's so many things you could do this. He's one Jesus. This one's really easy. This one's so easy. There's like fifteen things you can do it. So easy. There do you have a scapegoat in the office that you could make go first and see how many. Always take islet in. Saying, I got a Yahoo here. Y'all want it. Yeah, sending by Logan. Thanks, Logan. It's Yahoo. Answers, user tentacles eighty-seven who asks if you want an extra cheese slice at a fancy restaurant. What is the least embarrassing way of saying it. You're at a fancy restaurant. Like a book tobacco, and you want. I guess I included this one mostly because I was trying to sort of split the needle thread the needle. Well, no, I wanted to split it because I'd like to have two needles of knowing what is a fancy restaurant that does deal in cheese slices in slices of cheese. You can request giving of is like, aren't a burger fancy like, yeah, yeah, like a do like a like a dude Burke are made out of like human me, and that's the only sort of fancy burger. I can imagine. I because I can't. I listen. I don't want to brag. I'm gonna dull my order cheese plate before. I don't think she's ever coming up, said, good. I get more of this, but without paying for please. Also, I don't think it she's played ever comes with slices of anything. You may get little chunks. I don't think you can get like, I don't think they have like Kraft singles on cheese plate, although that would be Tope. How thick does it jeeze before it stops being a slice anything. I mean, it's orientation issue. Okay. If it's not just thinking about it. Squad. Why don't they have craft singles on cheese plates so that you know how fancy the other cheese is you get the craft singles gasline. Whenever cheese play. I always pretend like that one had that one was harder to eat because the pungent flavors, I guess that means it was good, but I don't know like what makes good good cheese, right. Right. Some weird colors and speckles in this one. Is that oh, perfectly normal? Yes, of course. I get good. Good, good and fancy. My very favorite, this one and it was it stink the inside of my mouth so bad that I started to cry a little bit. So I guess it's very good. I think the best way that you can know if the cheese is good, if you do have a craft single and now you know, like, all right, that's the bar. Let's see if you can clear it on. I noticed that there's some skin left on this boy. Did you meet? Okay. That is as intent to eat that eat the skin out. Should I hear on the plate? There's a bunch of things that aren't cheese, and I assume some of them are supposed to go a, some of the cheese and some of the aren't. If you could stay here and just coach, we through this experience together like Dula that way. Amazing. It's just like I to go the backroom. If some of these fancy restaurants gang and see the fuck and. Ridler is the one putting these two that I put all lives and berries on there. Okay. Well, now it is one of my sociology with, you know, you never really order soup and get a tray of cut up potatoes and chicken and stuff, and a can of broth and the chefs like, I don't know, figured out whatever it takes. All right. I'm going to give you a large chunk cheese and three crackers, and it'll be up to you to determine the porn six of everything. How how are you gonna play me like that's what they do at lunch. Ables. Thank you. Run. The manuals are my favorite cheese tray for sure. How do you ask for extra cheese? Slice out of fancy restaurant though out being embarrassed to say it, I think you're say like the person next to me there in the bathroom right now, but they were interested in if you can believe another Ziff this asshole right here once extra cheese in slice form, please sliced civically said, excuse me, I'm getting lactose intolerance tomorrow and I would live it up tonight. I have super lactose tolerance, and if I don't get a slice of cheese, I can go into shock. I'm gonna lose it. My body loves this stuff. My body just goes crazy for this. Two, I have lactose intolerance and I'm gonna do nNcholas cage, Leaving Las Vegas thing. Tonight's, if you could just pile it on, I'm going to Ben and Jerry's. Fucked. Lactate, doing lactating off. Title. Good. It's low me out. Worried we weren't gonna find the episode out of what we did here. The six minutes to midnight area crushing. It worked use folks. Thanks so much for listening to our show. We did our dumb but plugs the beginning. 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Ep. 112: Wrestling conversations with Marty the Moth, Aubrey Sitterson and Chris Moreno
I am. Pau. Perfect. Rosalie. Dad. Dies. Hey, everyone. How loveline here this week we're going to be doing things a little bit differently on tights and fights. We've got to amazing interviews that we can't wait for you to hear later on in the show, you'll hear Danielle Radford, EMMY speaking with Lucia, underground champion, Marty, the moth. This happened courtesy of gamma-ray TV at San Diego Comecon. We'll talk all about his start on tough enough his time in the temple and so much more so much hugging. But first, here's Mike eagle speaking with Aubrey citizen and Chris Marino there. The creators of the brand new release. The comic book story of professional wrestling. Welcome to tights and fights. The show discusses wrestling with sincerity and hilarie that it deserves. I'm Mike eagle join today. Good friend, Audrey sitters friend, how are you? I'm good. How are you? Excellent book. Come out this week. I'm great. Oh, no. And my new friend, Chris Marino, low. How are you Chris excited to be here. I actually listened to Lynn, Aubrey was on last see knew what to expect. No, I feel like it's, it's, it's all fair game at this point. I'm the unknown factor in this. Yeah, this whole pack. You're actually just going to ask you what you have for breakfast over and over in school. Trank. Good. Do it's good. Yeah, but Chris and Aubrey are the creators of the comic book story of professional wrestling which details of bunch of history, a bunch of the history behind wrestling touching on everything from its time as legitimate sport to how it's influence modern politics. The book is out now and what an amazing thing you guys made thanks. Yeah. When did you guys like I, first of all, when you first start working on it, I heard from my our editor at ten speed about chew years to the day of win. This came. This thing came out, that's when the ball I started rolling on it. He came to me and asked something to be interested in. And the first step was putting together a rough outline like by way of a pitch, it's part of a line of books that they do the comic story of whatever done video games. Baseball. I think there's, yeah. I don't know if I don't wanna listen this, maybe not. Get in trouble, do a line of them and they wanted to do wrestling next any reach out to me and that was the start of it. And that was about two years ago now. Yeah. And then Chris got started. I mean, so I started writing the script and in so. Eighteen sixty. It's like early two thousand seventeen. I probably started writing the scripts and the you were working on the art by June of that. Late June or July. Yeah, because yeah, because they had done approvals on scripts. Everything I, I mean, I was I was itching in raring to go. But yes, I mean, it's one hundred seventy pages eight needed to approve it, and they ran it through, you know, they're their big publisher. The biggest publisher I've ever worked with before and they're part of penguin Random House. And so they did all these things like like when they say they're gonna, do it made sense while you're gonna you're gonna show this to a lawyer. Oh, you're actually gonna make sure that they're gonna get in trouble for it either. In this case, you almost have to write because it's it's so closely follows the real history of this business in your name names and situations and bouts and quoting from people's autobiographies you really do have to get it, right? Yeah. I mean, they did some fact checking and stuff. They send to a reader for fact, checking the copy editors. And yeah, there's a bunch of different hurdles to to clear before Chris could even get drawn on it, but drawing it took you how long did. How long did you take you to draw. Me the whole year too. Yeah, because not only is it one hundred seventy pages, but specifically we're talking about drawing there's five, seven panels, her page. This is not like, you know, a big marvel comic will you just one splash across two pages a bunch of individual. The last time you read a marvel comic was in nineteen ninety. Actually, I love. About you. Dabble it x. men every now. You're right though. This is when you're in a fiction book, you can choose your spots for big moments and you know it behooves you to do a big splash every once in a while as helps for the storytelling. But with this thing, we like. Like I I feel bad for having put Christie wall, but like I came in there were they said, hey, do the history of wrestling do it all cover cover different countries cover from the very beginning as far back as you can possibly go do it all the only one hundred seventy pages to do it. And you know, hundred hundred pages is is huge for graphic novel right at cover one hundred forty years of history across different continents. It sounds like it sounds like a lot of pages and and that makes you think that there's a lot of space to cram about stuff in, but it feels it feels very fast. And so one thing I really enjoyed about the trying was each one, no matter like like no matter the scale of it seemed to be completely infused with his own individual emotion. Yeah, I, I really loved the panels where you were showing light what was going on in the national wrestling alliance, Boyd rooms at how they'd be making tons of money in in crying because no more winning. It's it was such an amazing arc and I love how each individual panel just seem to have really be telling his own its own story. Is that the approach you took to it? I mean, I, I never liked like we do a lot of crowds in this book. Do a lot of groups of people. I never liked to just phone it in on a guy in the background thinking like, oh, no, notice that person. I feel like everyone because it's comics. You got the time to look at every single face there, and I did not wanna have anybody that was just sort of dead and just not doing anything and especially in in those panels that you talk about like the board rooms and stuff. You know, those were the few places where we were actually making up characters because they were just sort of stand in their proxies for for you know, the the national wrestling alliance at the time where you know things like that that we knew something we knew yet, but there's some that we knew and there's something we could look up, but a lot of them are kind of lost a history. We could find a list of yes for like. The national convention but known in the right mind, would it be able to like pick. And also the point of those panels is really just take the temperature of the that group at the time. So so that's why like you know, especially like the ones where they were fighting over like TV, you know, like when TV I came into the picture, like, you know, I took those opportunities sort of create, like, you know, cartoon proxies for those things. Everyone of that my favorite example of that is when you did so they're divide. They're dividing up the cake of the country, like all the end of UA promoters. And then all of like the outlaw promoters are on the outside, and it's raining just stuck out. That's my favorite favorite of those moments. Didn't that thing, but I, those are the kind of things that just for me in the way that I do comics. Like I, I, you know, the people who taught me like my teacher Timika steel like he, he would always say, like, you know, every one of these people in this panel's got gotta be have their own story, right essentially. Right. They've all got, you've got to be able to look at them and go like, you don't know exactly what they're sort of thinking or what's going on with them. And you know, like panels like that are really important for that kind of thing. Like I, I didn't waste anybody that was in the crowd. The, you know, like just weird background stuff like there was the the four horsemen stuff of them like hanging out at a bar so they, you know, there's a bartender there. There's, you know, other bar patrons and stuff like that. Well, I mean it it's it's great to because the attention to detail in trying kind of MIR's the attention to detail in. Very, very accurate precise, you know, detailed history, your telling with the story, how familiar were you with the story of how the business changed from appearing like a legitimate sport to kind of the professional wrestling? We know how much how much of that were you aware before you started doing research? Pretty familiar with. So he would do the outline without a whole lot of additional research. Once I did the outline of realize where the holes in my knowledge where where I was going to need to kind of fill stuff in and I was writing the scripts for these the same time as I was writing GI, Joe, Joe. Joe comic and like. In my head, like I had like how long it took me to script things based on writing, Joe, and I got like four pages. I said, oh, no. Three months, you're gonna suck awful league do because, yeah, it was constant research. I would just in the course of breaking down panel to panel or realize I would need to dish information. You need to confirm date or there would be conflicting information about when this match took place or who they were facing or any number of different number different things. Yeah, that didn't stop. You know, once the script was done either because you know, just in terms of the research that I would have to do in addition of the research that had done, you know, there was a lot of questions that we were asking each other, even, you know, even after that because you know even just visual stuff like I, you know, some of the stuff in the book. There isn't a lot of visual reference. So I was also talking a lot about like, okay, this picture that you showed me in the script like it's this like is there any more. Are there any more pictures of this guy? You know, or things like that or even just confirming some of the visuals stuff we, we did find a couple of things that we needed to amend like while we're while we're doing it and like, I, I'm sure people find more, you know, like I braced myself for it just like the breadth and the scope of this thing. It's, you know, it was exhausting. It's something I don't know. Like a really funny example that I, that I thought was fascinating when we we're dealing with it right like so early on in in the book we start with carnival days up like the twenties thirties and stuff, and everybody's wearing trunks. Just what people were to wrestle back then. And like mean Chris had a big long because like my gut was everybody's just playing wearing black trunks. That's what people wore back then. And he reminded me because it's black and white. Bigamy wearing red or purple. Well, colored trunks. These like Joe, who knows what colored tr- Joe Stecher was like a pretty big deal that read world champion. Coach he was wearing, no, no, no. Did you guys decide to go with for debtors trunks? I forget. I think we ended up to in black. Like I started using a lot like earth tones, those the other thing too. Yeah. I think the initial idea was to maybe try to make everything is colorful as possible, but you know. Yeah, when we're dealing with those sort old time kind of things, you know, the the point I made was, you know, certain colors on on our color spectrum are not available in fabrics at that time. Right, right. Because they're not desirable also. So I mean, yeah, you're thinking more tones if they're blues. They're like great out blues. Maybe blues still, then it's not like the I don't. Yeah. I mean, look has space age, material trunks are made out of. Yeah. Whatever it is. So when you guys you said you had to create an outline for this to kinda served as the pitch them. So municipal publishers, there they become interested in this material enough to wanna pay for it to be produced and distributed and all of that. What do you think was the exciting thing in the pitch for them because I'm assuming they're not wrestling fans, assuming they don't have a lot of personal investment in this material, which I think it was about this story and it got them excited about it. So credit where credit Credit's due. Patrick barber editor is a huge wrestling fan. He came down for the new Japan shows in Long Beach, and I hung out with him up in the cow palace ones earlier this year to he's a big. He listened to my podcast. That's how we, that's how he came to ask me to pitch on it. So he's a big wrestling fan, but you the, the larger assumption is correct. I think that it was kind of a little bit of a, not a fight, but it took some explain it some pitching from him too. To convince folks there that there was a story that I think a lot of people outside of wrestling that people in this podcast, of course, but people outside of wrestling just think of. They think of wrestling is being really shallow, and it's just this kind of thing that's present, but like that there's not a whole lot of artistry and. This much story there. So I don't know. I I'd have to guess as to what it was specifically, but I think probably has to do with just the depth, right? And the fact that like we can trace this story, you know, like we start the book starts and we, you know, we have like cavemen fighting over ma'am. Mess. References of that, I, I really, I was like, because you you're so right, you don't think about it that way, but there are physical conflicts throughout history that are wrestling. Yeah, we don't think about them told Hercules. I mean, most of Hercules stories are just wrestling. Yeah, hand to hand. Yeah. Yeah, dude, Jacob, Jacob, and the angel in the bible just fighting with each other. But yeah, I think that showing that like there is this this vast history and also there's all these like political machen nations and rise and fall of different because WWE and even before is to be with, is this monolithic presence not just in the wrestling landscape at the pop culture landscape globally, WB tell anybody anything? They don't know. But WF is vis number one with bullet, and it's hard to even talk about second place, which I, it's new Japan, I guess, but they're so far removed. Right, right. From what WWE distant seconds, a distant second. And so I think for a lot of people who aren't dying, the wool wrestling fans, they think, you know wrestling isn't so much its own medium. They think that wrestling is just a type of TV. Right? That you watch right, like wrestling, it's just it's. Just it's like gun smokers. This one show that went on forever and it's not it's own unique, medium and art form. And so now I'm just kind of projecting that's me is one of the most interesting things about wrestling and getting the chance to do this book is explored as its own specific thing. So Chris, how, how big of a wrestling fan are you? I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm nowhere near as big a fan as Aubrey is, but I mean, it's, you know, I've talked about this a lot since we started doing the book because that's that's usually what a lot of people wanna know. But I mean, it's been in my life like since I was a kid. I mean, like I grew up watching it. You know, me and my brothers, I me and my brother would wrestle my dad backyard. I dedicated the book to dead, you know, because we were, we were the flying Moreno, brothers, undefeated, last. I mean, you know. Got one. He said it just now one time never should've went over. Yeah, never. But yeah, no, I grew up with it with all my friends like the my dad was in the marine. So like on bass like they would have pro wrestling matches. People come in, I watched like every movie that had anything to do wrestling. Do you remember the movie body slam? Yeah, Dirk, Benedict. Roddy piper was the Fatou I think was in it. Tooting people are captain lose in it. I mean that movie was he's to me as a kid like I like wrestling infused, everything wants the cartoon your toilet. About this is that you know wrestling does move in. You know, I it rises and falls. Right, right. And so like, but whenever you grew up there, yeah, there was a period of big every day. There is like a a wrestling, boom, generational touchdowns. I mean, like I, I showed my grandfather the gorgeous George pages, and my grandfather grew up in Staten Island. He, he would watch them on television. You know, you know, my dad like all the Mexico stuff like he, you know, that was like, you know, huge for him. It's like, you know, yeah, every generation has that sort of experience with it, you know? So like for me, it's like I fell in and out of it, but you know, just from hanging out with, I mean, I've I've sort of been kept abreast of things and even doing this book like actually came out of this book with a with a lot more of an interest in what's going on right now. The key is now. Like he does worry about it. The most people just by virtue suffered through a year of and it's it's, it's, it's notable that it feels like you're wrestling fan because those characters seem to be drawn with a certain sense of joy. Yeah, I mean, I love all of it like that that that's the thing about it too. Is. And I was joking with somebody else about this. Like in my comics career, I never really got to work on like superhero comics. I, I did like one book with Paul Jenkins called sidekick, but it was like a spoof of superheroes like this is probably the most superhero style book that I've ever drawn. And I think the characters in it are probably cooler than. Characters that exists. That'd be like there's a lot more skin for. I mean, like just between like coming back to like drawing characters that I remember from my youth. I mean, like I got the drug capital Anna, that was my favorite was probably one of my favorite things getting draw like Roddy piper and stuff like that j. d. or really stoked on. Oh yeah, absolutely. But like I was like, I was really excited draw those characters, but then also just, you know, I love character. I'm very character or ended in terms of my storytelling and comics and stuff like that. And so, I mean, it was just such a wide range of of all these different personalities and stuff like that. And that was really, yeah, there is a lot of joy there just because it was. I mean, it was just so fun. You know to of drop big beefy dudes. You know out of each other, is there anybody that you wish you you? You wish you could have fit in the chew? Ernie Ladd Ernie lies not in their earning lab is really important. Ernie lead for people don't know, big cat Ernie lad. He was football player like a lot of guys in that era. They realize they can make a lot more money by wrassling. It's we started doing that. I in the off season and then just full-time and he was red and a lot of people now older. Remember that too, but like he was, he'll be like a authority figure on like w e television like that. But prior to that, so he was huge star and he's a black guy and he he was massive in during the territory days. He's a massive national star and was able to are these different territories time when like not a lot of black guys could do that. What are we talking about here seventies, okay. Is probably his height, you know? And you know, sixties sixties seventies, and the really interesting thing and the really cool. Thing about any, I think is that he was one of he's one of the earliest big black stars that cowboy Bill watts made midsouth Calva Ville watts also was the guy who brought j. d. to prominence, natural betrayed iceman king Parsons because he ran the territory in the mid south and black folks who wanted it wasn't. It wasn't like a social Justice. That you make that point yelling on in the book because there's a, there's a rich history of multi ethnic stars proliferating the wrestling business in on first glance, you might think all that's nice. And at this time when things were so racially divided there that you had this place where all these different ethnicities represented, but like you're saying in the book, it wasn't based strictly financially sack, but that's what's actually because it still is nice. It's cool. That's the thing that didn't happen in sitcoms of the nineteen seventy s right. You know, like so it's cool and like Ernie Ernie Ladd is is really significant. I think because he, you know, it's complicated to this. I'm I'm glad you asked her like this question because I love the story, but just did not fit into the narrative that we had laid out. Bill watts has a reputation for being racially insensitive. He is. He he's, he's. Alive. I mean, so can, but he's a man of his era, and he also was a wrestling heel and feuded with Bobo Brazil who's another really important groundbreaking black wrestler. And he said, it's untoward things about that and in the nineteen sixties that have not aged well, and you know. Context is everything right? But he was not only made all these huge black names in his promotion admits out, but he made earning lad, earning Ladd, became the first black Booker anywhere. He was the first guy to actually be Blackstone Booker midsouth. He's Booker mid south man. He he held the pencil and he called the shots and he decide who's going to win when they're going on how they're going to lose all that stuff. So he's a really important figure, but I don't know. This was the tough thing. Man, like we only ended hundred seventy pages and it was important to me that this book not feel so a pet peeve of mine when people, whether it's any kind on fiction work, right? Documentaries, nonfiction, comics, it bugs me. It drives me up the wall when it's anecdote when it's just a list of things that happened, right. The name of this is the complex story. It was really important to us that this feel like a story and there, and there is one. I think that there are these narrative through lines in wrestling history an, that's what makes it so fascinating. The repetition and. How things come back around the role of the McMahon family over generations, right? Like and their influence on the on the on the medium slick really fascinating. But what it meant though is in order to stay true to that and to stay on message to stay on brand. We left a lot of stuff on the cutting room floor, and there's a ton of things that I would have liked to have get gotten more detail in include, but just didn't fit well. Something that did seem to fit, and I know that it's there, but I haven't gotten to it yet. And I spoke about an intro here was about how wrestling affected politics outside of the wrestling business. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, you know this thing that people bring up a lot and it's been, you know, it's not. I mean, let's not beat about the Bush, right? Like for the past two years, there have been. It's like a Daleus of think pieces that basically amount to digital Donald Trump was in the w hall of fame, you know, did you know that Donald Trump says. These these outrageous things and it's kind of like a pro wrestler, isn't it? Thousand words right. A ton of Julius. Good, the a ton of this stuff over the past two years. It's not wrong per se. But you know, one of the big themes of this book. One of those big through lines on that I mentioned was this idea that wrestling has always been wrestling right people on times when a draw a demarcation line in the sand and say, oh, in nineteen sixty three people still believed it was real. No, they didn't. Nobody did, right. It's always been wrestling, and there was never this moment where really changed and let's go back to the eighteen eighties when like in the carnival circuit. Right. And similarly, I don't. You know, it's just a, it's a in wrestling. It's just a continuing. It's a continuing process where they move the goalposts and kind of blurred the lines between fact and fiction, and they will admit some things but still deny others. And then we'll use that confusion to pull the wool of your magic trick. It's a con and I think that similarly, you know, I don't think that you know the stuff that people compare Trump to professional wrestlers. They're not wrong, right? But man, that's what Plato wrote about demagogues in ancient Greece, right? None of this stuff is new, and I think that that's kind of that to me is the takeaway that you know yet Donald Trump is using this stuff but sore. So if people for the past for. Ever going to pass twenty years. It gets worse or better depending on the era and like how people are doing it. But when it comes to the second Plato or the third, because we mentioned Plato in the third play referencing. Nobody else guests are going to beat this. It's true. The difference between dialectic and rhetoric, right dialectic is a conversation. Rhetoric is speech used to convince somebody to trick them into thinking what you want them to think that's not new for politics. Yeah, in that distinction is something that Plato used Plato in like using Socrates as a mouthpiece us to discuss how politicians demagogues and ancient Greece worked, and that's not new, and I think you know anything to takeaway for me is that wrestling is it's not that politics is suddenly become wrestling. It's that wrestling has always been an excellent way to look at politics, right? But people are just now coming around to it interest. One thing you kinda point to in that answer is is another narrative that the book ends up point to allot in this about kind of defusing the narrative that people have only recently know that it wasn't completely on the up and up. Yeah. Why? Why is that? Why does that? Why is it important? What do you think that's important? It feels like when you're reading a book, it feels like an important truth that you want people to understand because it's part of the work I see, because because the idea that it used to be true like the idea that, oh, you know what you're seeing. Now, this is. Artifice and this is fake in fix, but it used to be real. That's something that wrestling uses all the time. Right? It's something that they use right now with Rhonda Rousey, right? Like, oh, you know, run arouses in the ring right now, but she's also a former UFC champion might. And so this is real where but what we're seeing now is is fixed. And so it's it's what we're talking about early in terms of moving the guy posts, right, or the goalposts and tricking people into kind of complicity in one in like a half truth that then let's them by into other stuff. So that way, when weren't arouse, he comes in and all of a sudden, does this 'em move that you've never seen somebody doing wrestling ring before it looks kind of sloppy and weird. You might think, oh, dang. She's actually shooting on this person 'cause we know this backstory, right? Go further. This was used extensively in triple h and undertaker. It was one of my favorite things about that build like when they had those two wrestlemainia matches in a row is that you know these. These are the last day ehre these. The last stand in from the attitude from the Monday night war back when it was good. These guys, you know what you see now, it's all HD and people wear make up in these. These thin guys are on Twitter and everything. No look at these old crusty Bastiat there for. This is real. This is legitimate. And so that is something that wrestling has always done and it's it's a show game, right? It's a way of getting. It's magic. It's look over here in this is this is fake. This is fake. We're going to admit, this is fake so that we can kind of push forward this other falsehood and according to your vision. And I think it's also important to that. We get that out of the way right at the beginning of the book because that's usually most people that aren't into wrestling's first respond. All right. Bye-bye. Wrestling stuff's fake by by saying it right at the front going like, yeah, it's fake. Now, do you want to hear what wrestling's all about? It's sort of immediately takes off the table that one obstacle maybe that might keep you from like learning more about it? Yeah, it's like we're going. Yeah, it is not only fixed, but that's good of that. But also check out all this other. You know that that sort of comes along with Chris question for you as as we bring this to a close, I don't all of the Evers that are talked about and depicted in the what was your favorite era draw? I mean, seventies and eighties that was like my favorite because again, that's just, you know, the stuff I I sort of grew up with and also like I got to draw. That's like a lot of our cameos are. The celebrity cameos you know, like I get investors still. Oh, Muhammad. Ali Liberace. Never thought I'd get the drill. Now, I mean, you know, that's that's a real dream come true. But yeah, it also there's just there's there's so many like cool personalities. I to draw RIC flair dusty Rhodes so much in this book in in so many different of visual interational, right? Yeah. All the different eras of both of those guys. You know it. It's like to me, that's like that's a real sort of flash point for where, like, you know where where we got to today, you know, especially with WWE and stuff like that. Like it's a real sort of cool like Genesis point for all that stuff too. Exciting also really great hairstyles mustaches great mustaches and hairstyle feathered mullets. And we're talking. We've been talking about like what are followed projects. They were just like, well, you know, like you've got feathered mullets and mustache on what did he do. What did he do. Comic book history of porn. What's next? Right. I gotta go research. Well, I'll recision and Chris Marino's new book is the comic bookstore professional wrestling, and it's vailable. Now we've got linked to it in our show notes on this episode, Aubrey, and Chris, thanks so much for coming into talking book. It's fascinating. Thank you for having fun. Only talk talk, really good podcast. Great. I feel pretty good about it. Tights and fights is coming up after this break. Are stacks of unread books taking over your apartment. Do you constantly miss your train stop because you're caught up in reading. 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That's how I bury him. That's what I do. Good friends. Album was on every top ten list last year. So yeah, he's too busy being genius. So he couldn't be here this weekend, but who we do have I am so incredibly excited. Y'all know, y'all know him from John's or ground. Welcome worry, the moth Hello much and thank you. Thank you for joining us. We are so excited to have you here. We were playing video games earlier as ING. We played some video. I, I was not good. Neither was I say, I didn't win, but. It was great now is we have played Mario Kart on these witch? Yes, and it does. Control is super, super small, but we all handle it. We rocked it, right? Yeah. Did you do that thing that everybody doesn't? They play a racing game where you move your entire body is your steering his, not how you play the game. I think you have to have to play the do real life. The government's watching us all the time if we're not moving along with those controllers than they won't know to tell those cars to move. Well, I just actually went to the purge city event here at Comecon and all about the NFL and the government. Doing things. I was drinking water by the way. It was great. It was good. Is that first thing where you can go into a room and murder somebody and they won't arrest you for it. I'm bringing the secrets here. That's what we're about. Not supposed to say that here worry. Yes, gosh, I am so excited to have you on like bursting. So tell me a little bit about yourself, your life added you get into wrestling. When did you watch wrestling when you were younger? Tell me everything. Just give it a gap to story of your life. Yes. Story of your life. I like long walks on the beach to very fun. I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah. Well, mostly west Jordan, Utah. Actually. Born and raised there. I went to private school, my whole life parents like really wanted to have a good kid. They screwed up. I actually saw wrestling the first time as my grandparents house. My grandpa is a big fan of wrestling with my uncle, and I saw I remember sitting specifically an, I'll tell you I'd support later, but my Grandpa's house lending a wall. Mike, there's like nine guys beaten up just one person that's not right, and I'm like getting all into it, like, stop it. There's there's nine of you stop hitting that person. It was like the end w. o. versus somebody and they're just beating somebody up. Long story short out my first time seeing wrestling, I actually, my grandpa unfortunately passed away about nine months ago. I bought his house to keep it in the family. So I actually realized it just the other day that, oh gosh, I can lead right here on this wall, and I can see the exact point that actually saw wrestling for the first time. So I thought that was kind of fun to see. Yes. And that's how we saw wrestling. I was a stockbroker for Fidelity Investments stockbrokerage firm. Stuck broker, ten years, ten years, two thousand three, ten years. Wow. Pass ten years. Something passed? Yeah, I got the job in two thousand three to five ish area. It was over ten years as a stockbroker Fidelity Investments, and I work for a Bank for that. I was working in the finance industry and then decided I really like being spandex and kick people in the face. And so I stopped being a stockbroker and decided to do that for full-time. What was there a point where a switch turned on where you were like? I'm clearly doing the wrong thing and you sort of think back to that young Marty, who you're pulled in by St., telling immediately made you feel something and you're connected to it and wanted to take action. Absolutely. What what? What was the next turning point? We were like, I'm gonna go do this. I have to figure out how how do I get trained? How do I get to become part of the world? To be honest, I started. I outta show called WWE tough enough. I have an eleven. I was on a show called WW tough enough m. w. healer nineteen eighty-seven says I should have one tough. And if I agree with you and I was black Yoshi earlier on that. So I think for continuing back on. I believe that was you, but that's actually where I realized like I could do this full-time in for a living, and I'd actually be ROY Moore happier than talking about people in their 401K's. So during tough enough, I was doing pretty well if you guys watched it, I'd never got on the bottom three. And then I actually ended up breaking my leg and I ended up having to get metal in it, but that was the moment like I was this close to to wrestling full time for my life. So the whole time after I broke my leg Stoeckel Steve Austin said like, oh, you would've won if you wouldn't have broke your leg. So I'm like, you're the guy who said who wanted the show. So if you would have said I won, I would've won, and I started working my butt off to make it happen after that. That was a turning point right. There was tough enough like, oh, you had it. You touched like the living there, fulltime for fun, and then you got taken away from you. So did you get in? Did you get into tough enough. Like was that just he saw an open call and you're like, all right, I'm gonna do it. Like, what? How, how did you get involved in that as digging till we get back to the day of your birth? Right now we're going backwards. Well, nine months before that there was an accident. A man and a woman who were sort of okay with each, they sort of at least for that our. I again, I was from Salt Lake's. I am from Salt Lake City, Utah. In there, there's not a huge wrestling scene. There is the school that brought me up and that's essentially the Utah wrestling sane. So w never comes and does Monday night raw or smackdown in Utah at all. They just skip us. So I started flying myself to California. I flew myself to Texas. I flew myself to Colorado, so I just started going to his many shows as possible and flying myself out there to work extra work there. And then one time the big show Samis like I saw you in California, right? Mike, yeah. Yeah, we're in Texas. I'm like, you know, press all you Colorado last week. No. Are you from? I'm from Utah. Why are you here? Mike, I wanna make it wrestling, so it was like, come here. He brings me any talks to the talent relations guy. At that point, says this guy just flew four different states to be here. So give him a tryout, and that's what happened happening. Kind of started that way, and they got on their radar that way. And when tough enough came out, I didn't want to do anything like I want. I didn't wanna do the voting thing. Everyone who was doing the I, but I didn't actually put in for it. They actually hit me up on Facebook like, hey, we're from tough enough. We really wanted to put you in the as a video like, okay, cool. And this probably totally is from somebody if I hit you up on social media and say, hey, I wanna put you on a TV show. Do you believe me? 'cause I've never heard of you. That's what I was experiencing. I'll get into the van, but there better be candy. There you go. And maybe one window like Lisa's big little like a porthole porthole. All they can see your. Yeah. But anyway, he sent me a message on Facebook which made me not believe him. And he said, hey, I'm from tough enough. I'd like you to be on the show. You're on WW radar, and I was on WBZ radar from flying myself out to all these places and. I said, screw it and I put in for it. And what? Sorry of my tough enough career. And honestly, I think without tough enough, I wouldn't be on neutral ground which makes the happy ending to the story. Where I touched it. I was close enough and then lucianne gal came along and I was able to start here asking Dario Cueto to be part of the temple. And then now we're here and I'm poetry and people in dungeon rooms and stuff, so sure are. You definitely definitely. Are you aside from obviously underground? I know y'all are also in other promotions as well. Can you tell us a little bit about Rocha working. Yeah, you go over to triple a. in Mexico we did triple mania last year. It's almost coming up now. AAA I wrestle every week somewhere, so it's like which one do you wanna talk about? It's fun. So I'm doing a lot of wrestling really though I've been kind of focusing on my YouTube channel to be honest, tell us about that. What's what's going on your YouTube? Will I wrestle every weekend? So I just bring a camera along with me. There's a lot of people interested in how what happens to a wrestler or what does the rest do right before they get out on stage. So that's what I kinda show on my logs as far as, hey, here's me traveling it. It's five in the morning, I'm getting up and going on a flight and the progression to now I'm in Spanish and to kill people. Oh, wow. That's literally just like day in the life. Like I literally call a day in the life of wrestling Dane, the live. It's great because we as fans, you hear about what life on the road is like, like you hear stories about it. So it actually see somebody documenting it as it happens. That's like a great. There's nobody else doing that. So you should go check out fundamental. I try and be nice, so I don't show all this pity. 'cause y'all, you don't want us to. And hanging out, but story. It's my story and it's my story. So if I want to go, I'll do that. What is the name of your channel? YouTube dot com. Slash m. are MARTA CAS US Mr Martin Casaus literally Google mardi the moth, a pop up on the green guy with a creepy face green guy. This is a bowler. So I'm sorry. I was born with it. I'm so many people have also talked about how funny you are not just like you're so there's nothing you're so good at just the wrestling proper, you're also able to bring comedy kind of India wrestling. How did you start with that? To be honest, it's my mother. She's crazy. She's crazy. He's a cartoon straight up. If anyone ever meets my mother, I highly encourage watching my log so you can see my when I put her on my last flog and I had a sit down and have a, we're going to watch the wlac together we go. This is okay, right? It's happened already. She's fantastic. She's great, but and her personality of just being a goof as well as the love cartoons. I've always wanted to be a cartoon, always. I'm going to superman shirt for hick. So I just saw I watched so much animates. I watched loony toons the mask, Jim Carey back in the nineties back when he was saying was like my thing back in the day. So I always wanted to be a cartoon. So lucianne you did come up the cartoon, I think. So. So you could do it without hurting yourself. I would love that very much. I would love that very much that just the talking and not so much the falling at the gret always so much fun when I got seven Staples in my head from the weapons of mass destruction matching season three. Yeah, that's hard one for me to watch. I think it's 'cause I, what's it starts getting to real. I don't like you see. Like I like I like my fights, fun and predetermined. I actually trying to hurt each other. I like when people are protecting each other plans. That's the kind of fighting that. I like. So when I watch those, I know that obviously y'all really careful and you know what you're doing, but the weapons of mass destruction matches. Those are the ones were even. I'm like, ooh, that's it so much. I haven't shared my mom that one yet don't. Yeah, pump shouldn't. All right. Well, I'm so we're gonna get ready to wrap it up here pretty soon. Is there any evidence last questions that you wanna talk to you for nine hundred hours litter to you for nine hundred dollars. Let's just close to other spring. I just wanna hold. You. Hey, I need to document this auto. Like right now they are nothing wind. They break line. They are cuddling. I did flights, right? Yeah, I get in tight and I fight and this is okay. Get tightened Pfizer's. We're gonna go ahead and just keep that in our hat forever. Just how Levin up all over Marty, the moth. Oh, I'm so happy such tender, embrace. I can say right now that I feel like I've reached another level of humanity, how it was just such a good cuddle. I'm so happy. This is the best we can never. So thank you. Is there any any less things that you would like to save before we wrap up? Number one, I love these guys. I love this whole weekend like San Diego. Comecon is. I, I've never been here, so I'm excited like a little geek. I love this place. I'm excited everyone's out being themselves, dressed up, having fun. Thank you fans and wrestling fans for being part of Luciana gone ANC, San Diego comic con. Follow me on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter at Marcus, go to my YouTube channel at YouTube dot com. Slash mar Mr. Martin Casaus to mar the mosh see the green guy with the creature base that does it for tights and fights. We were podcast on the maximum fund network this week, your hosts were Daniel Radford and Mike eagle along with me how loveline our producer is Julian Burrell, senior producer, maximum fun is Laura Swisher, Mike eagles the voice be hundred theme music as well. So we're putting them over for that. Keep up with us all week long at Facebook dot com. Slash groups slash tights, fights, and at tights, fights on Twitter and on Instagram. And remember if you love the show, just hit those five stars on apple podcast. 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I Mark James with us as always are the other two -fensive orders, the original founder of flush Rickman crush and a slice of miscellaneous mid western man, meet Bobi craft gentlemen. Welcome to the show. only hear Mr James good to have you Mr. Bill as you're saying the doing decades, we just finished up the tournament of terror was term terror terror tournament turn many call at a tournament of terror. Okay. Terminator, and it's funny because we covered. Politics on Halloween. So why not cover the tournament of terror which will come out probably the day after election day erection sums up how we do things around here. But you guys ready to go over our own results of this election. Yeah, I think so I mean, if you follow along on Facebook you to vote on the terminal terror what we did is we took the greatest villains of all time from horror, and we matched them up against the greatest heroes from all time from horror if you haven't done so all ready over to Facebook Facebook dot com slash dueling decades. If you wanna get in on the next poll because we already started that today that's gonna be rock albums of the eighties versus rock albums of the nineties. So you have plenty of time the time in on those so get in on that now go over to Facebook dot com forward slash doing decades. And like the page joined the group, it's growing to the point. Now, we're almost at three thousand. I think like eleven hundred within the group itself to a lot of people are voting on this stuff. And it's getting more popular every week. So join in. All right. So where did we begin here round? One. Was we had Michael Myers go against Chucky the tall man from phantasm. And of course, hellraiser was fishing that one out I think it was a pretty much a foregone conclusion that Michael Myers was gonna win this round. No matter what I don't know, man. There's a lot of people that are Chucky fans, and there's a lot of hellraiser friends out there. There was I thought the pinhead was going to do a little bit better than he did in this one. Yeah. It was it was a little bit off. Mike Myers did win. He took fifty two percent of the votes. So he won by a lot. And then coming in second in this round was Chucky. Let me throw out a little fact here Chucky six movies and forty five kills which is pretty respectful actually holds up to a lot of guys in this than coming in third was pinhead nine films thirty three plus kills. And that's the thing with the kill counts. They're kind of all over the place because I think people assume right people were dead. Yeah. So it's it's kinda hard to get an exact number, but they're all around wherever number I give you it's around that. All right. And lastly coming in last night round was the toll man who was in five movies, and I not get an accurate count. Verse kills I have a theory on that. I think it's because he didn't have any kills technically. He didn't lay hands on anybody. So, you know, I know the balls did it and he commands the balls or whatever, you know, the guy's got great ball control. But he didn't physically kill anybody himself. So it's kinda hard to do that though. Because that saying like, you know, Jason's knife. Accounts for all as murders doesn't because he used a lot of other things than the knife. Did then you split it up with all other shit. It's I don't know. There's no kill count for him though, out of everybody on all these lists. The only one no kill counts. All right. It's a moving onto round two. We had Jason voorhees. Norman Bates, the blob and leprechaun. What do you think that one man? I know where I think it should have gone. I know there's a lot of leprechaun fans out there. Leprechaun's got a ton of movies. Norman Bates depends what version of Norman Bates you're talking about. I went with the original some people prefer the TV version and the blob that's a classic. If you can't vote for the blob, that's just blasphemy. But I mean, Jason's the king. So yeah. Well, that's correct. Jason actually took seventy two percent of the votes in this round. He fucking killed it coming in second was leprechaun or Lubin whatever you wanna call them your writings in seven films. Fifty one kills Norman Bates four films, and of course, like marks the TV show, but we do go off of the eighties nineties. So that's gives it a little bit. But total kill wise. He had twenty three and then the blob came in dead. Last one film, of course, the remake nine hundred eighty eight with what's the other Dylan's name. Matt dillon. Dylan, Bob, Kevin Dillon. Jeez. He's probably in the original Jacob. The blobs accounts for thirty five kills in that movie. No love though, that blew me away. Man. I thought the blob would get a lot more love. I thought he was going to get closer numbers to what Bateson leprechaun got. But unfortunately, he did not. All right. So we moved onto round three and all of these pretty much to this point or all forgotten conclusions in my brain. He got Freddie, then you had any Wilkes, and you had Candyman and goes face where do we think that ended up? I'm just going to say that misery is one of my all time favorite movies hands down. It is a cinematic masterpiece will the maybe you can answer this question for me. How many kills does she actually have because in the movie, they you know, you kinda figure she's a serial killer. You know, she's killed a lot of people like when she worked to the hospital and all that. But is there ever any mention of how many people she kills? No, no, just. Spoiler faulk. Never seen misery. It's just been ruined. Why said the ones she kill. There could be one. It could be twenty seven. Oh, I thought he said the one she killed while. And I just fucked it up you just gave the spoiler. She came in second. Freddie took sixty five percent of the votes any will came in second third, which surprised me was Candyman. Who actually this is surprising to for Candyman spent three movies the only twenty two kills. Yeah. That I thought his numbers would be way higher on that one. And then last crazy I thought this would be much higher ghost face from scream, but no love forgoes face. Everybody loves ghost face killer. Instead. Thought but that goes face four movies. Thirty one kills to really make four screen movies. They did I don't remember pass the second one spoilers can you count that as all the same person? Now. See that's what you just do it as the mask. Okay. As just goes face. Yeah. Spoilers same. If you haven't seen these fucking movies by now, people come on GM started out. It was says one guy in the costume. And then the third film. It was like Roddy piper something under a so. I seriously don't even recall. I think it was a chick in one of them. Right. How awesome? Would it be? If there is like a like, a notable villain like that. That was never revealed who played it. But it was some like mega celebrity us never found out Jared Lido like John Travolta as. All right. So round four in the initial round here. We had pennywise leather face, I guess critter from critters and how to elector and where do you think that one went out leather face? Yeah. I I definitely thought leather face on this one. He's one of the classic Hollywood horror villains of all time. But Hannibal Lecter is a very powerful character in his own, right? But I think we got surprised on this one. We did we have lied sided pennywise was the winner by one vote. See your votes do count. One by one vote to thirty four percent of the votes. Of course, leather face was the runner up four movies. Thirty kills had electric human third and surprisingly Hannibal Lecter. If you add his show to the mix he's been five movies and his show hundred forty four kills. Wow. Sixty two of which came from the show. So I mean that was only pretty recent so doesn't really count. And then of course, critters they killed a bunch of mother fuckers. Violent Mercer Mayer books. Now, here's a question for you who ate more people the critters or Hannibal actor, according to this. It'd be Hannibal Lecter one hundred forty four is more than everybody except for Jason. Wow. The critters ate a lot of people in those movies. They did. But I couldn't find a count on that either people just gave up that watch past the first one. And I know there's like probably like three of those shitty movies. And there's like a couple of cows in there and a dog and. Yeah. They it all kinds of stuff. They didn't care what it was a tire tiny. Again, like what you guys were saying. And I think that's a mistake that we did that. I don't think we'll do again is we tried to split it up. You know, we try to have the, you know, the people that we thought would move on being their own round. Because it was only fair you don't wanna put like FREDDY Jason Michael and leather face all one round. But I say from here on out fuck, it was just do it. Because that's what happened in the hero rounds. Right. We got this new one going up greatest rock albums of the eighties greatest rock albums of the nineties now for these I set up twenty five of the greatest from the eighties twenty-five from the nineties then there were put in random order from there. So there some matchups that you're going to see that people are going to be feary ass- that these albums all got in the same match up. It's gonna be great. I mean, there's nothing you can really do that. I think that's the fairest way to do it. Because the way we did it in the first one played out. How we not how we wanted it. But how we saw you know, we'll change that. So it doesn't happen again. So that that was the end of the the round of sixteen went onto the quarterfinals. We had Michael Myers and Jason the matchup. Everybody's wanted to see forever. And actually went to Michael Myers with sixty five percent of the vote. You agree with that? No, not at all. Do you think that had to do with the fact that the movie was out? Yes. Absolutely. The hype same with penny wise man, it's topical at the time. More people are into the character. They'll survive longer popularly. I'd say if this was last year when did it come out that last year the year before he would've killed it? He would just you know. He lost coming up all over that next. But the next next quarter. Final was Freddie versus it. I thought this won't be much closer because of what you just said. But it wasn't, Freddie. Took seventy five percent of the vote while. Yeah, that was a landslide. And I thought after pennywise snuck in there he would have had a little bit more support. But now, Freddie is the the master it ended after round one and surprisingly pennywise only has nine kills. That's it. That's it. Just just on screen or does that count the book to now does not count the book? I'm only doing movies nemo, man. I'm not researching books. I only listen to read don't give me that. I like to be read to do. Those kills all Countess full kills because there were children. Anything though, she count as double. All right. So then we go to the semi-finals we had Freddie versus Michael. And I didn't mention this before Michael Myers thirteen movies hundred twenty plus kills. I had a kind of estimate that one. She saw the last one, you know, that, you know, the kill count is high, but I didn't count how many they were. But it somewhere hundred twenty plus Freddie, only like forty two. But Freddie, took this one fifty four percent of the votes went to, Freddie. Well, he is one of the greats of all time in Hawera. So I just didn't see shake Alec that. I thought with that movie coming out and actually it was out at this time when we did this. So thought maybe he would ride in but did not all right. So onto the hero side ago quicker with these because there are really no stats the hero's. Sorry, how many lives were saved? Yeah. Encounter shit, usually only one themselves round one. We had ash as Williams. Of course, we had NADA from the live. We had Tommy Jarvis. Then we had Helen Lyle from Candyman where do you think this went easily Helen Mirren? She's an Oscar wetter grape, oops. Does your matter. The the decades stacked old lady it went to ask him. He's one of those characters that she's just the personification of cool and bad ass. I think he personifies that better than anybody. Yeah. He killed in here. Yeah. Probably better than Freddie. Krueger. I don't know if you've seen blank man with Damon wyans, you gotta fucking point. There is a super here though. Yeah. That's true. I'm surprised nobody trying to throw one of those hugger mar. Because a lot of people listen people if we didn't pick somebody like just write it in the comments don't say where so personal the lose. Yeah. Just just write it in. If we had enough write in votes than what everything needs to be contested. Yeah. We'll put them in other rounds come on. Oh, he won at sixty five percent of that vote but round two again nother landslide one. We had Nancy, of course, from Iran, elm street mic ready from the thing is it MC ready, or is it MAC ready? I always thought it was his name needy. But I'll greedy. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. That's the way it's spelt. Does not look the way it's pronounced then we had caroll-ann the was at poltergeist, and then bub bub from day of the dead. One of my all time favorite horror movies who I was shocked did not get more love in this one. He got one vote. Yeah. I think that was fucking me. He's the only one in all these rounds one vote, but that was a landslide. Of course. Nancy Thompson took that sixty one percent. This is where it got tricky. And this is what I was talking about with you put mega-powers together and crazy shit happens. Not even like just cream rises to top. Because here we go round three. We had van Helsing Alice from resident evil Ripley from alien and then Quint marks favorite from jaws gonna need a bigger boat. I'm surprised he got any votes. I was a little shocked that he was on this. But he actually did get some love even though he did he came in last, but he got some love here. But you could tell the race was much tighter. And Ripley only one with forty four percent of these votes. Wow. That's why the next time we shift this around a cream rises to the top. And then the last round here. This is another Tuffy. But this one bugged me because I'll just tell you now Laurie strode wins as fifty fifty two percent of the vote. Right. But you had Laurie strode against Buffy the vampire slayer now. I know it's the movie version because we did movies. It was not a ceremonial Geller TV show Kristy Swanson. Yeah. So maybe that's why she didn't get as much love. But then you had hell boy laid are you trying to insinuate that the Kristy Swanson Buffy the vampire slayer is less than the TV show. A lot of people would argue that you'd be. Surprised of course, stood all the fans, they're all about the fucking TV show. Wow. I I am definitely not on that fucking boat. I loved the shit out of the movie could not get into the TV show with light to gotten into her pants, maybe willows too. But TV show never appealed to me. Yeah. The the movie doesn't get all that much love. And if you look it up, it's all for pretty much TV show. And you know, what if you we report willow up there from the TV show probably would have killed it, huge followings fucking crazy. But Laurie strode did when fifty two percent of the vote, and that's why I don't think people saw where this is going either. Because when we match up the heroes against the villains, if you're gonna have fucking Laurie strode against somebody other than Michael Myers. She's gonna get fucking obliterated. Let's see moving on quarterfinals ash. Versus Nancy ash destroys Nancy seventy three percent of the vote. Next was Ripley versus Lori. Strewed? Ripley kills this one sixty seven percent. Of the vote in the semifinals came down to adverse Ripley, and how did this go? I would went where Ripley on this one ashes, really cool. He's a great character. Good one liners, but Ripley is I comic believe it or not. What are we believe it or not who ended up taking that round Macra? You're you're way off ask this sixty nine percent of the votes. You know, how this is going? Don't act surprise. I sixty nine percent of the votes. You talk about icon ick. This is the iconic hero, and he can fight the dead. He could fight anybody. Of course, she fights aliens, we didn't have an alien going into the final. So this is the perfect match up. I think the way it shook out with ash versus Freddie on believable. That's like the dream matchup and going through this actually there was a comic written. It was two thousand eight it was by wild storm. And they actually they put out a comic book. It was ash verse, Freddie. Nj sin rule. I remember. There are talking about possibly doing this as a movie after the Freddie versus Jason movie came out. But of course, all. The rights and bullshit everyone wanted a piece of the pie. Of course. It was never gonna happen. So he he does pull it out in the comic book, he beats the both nice in a final confrontation between the three horror movie icons. Freddy resurrects all of Jason's previous victims from fry their teeth and makes them dead. I'ts after Jason turns on him. And then he turned the voorhees home into the elm street house. But ultimately as uses the Necker NAMA con the coolest fucking name about any book ever. And he opens a portal like yo is does he bashes, Freddie to the debt world. And then think he froze Jason underneath crystal lake. So I does it what style just look over the numbers wise for movies, you know, average there's been four evil dead movies. They averaged about domestic box office about eighteen million movie. Then you look at Freddie, and he's been in nine movies, and they averaged forty million so in box office numbers Freddie's, clear champ. And it was great to seal the debate on the Facebook group when when these polls go up and some of the comments were great one of my favorite comments on this one out of the whole tournament. And it was a great observation. Somebody said that Asha he definitely thought Ashley was going to beat, Freddie. Although he may lose another limb in the battle. Yeah. I could see that. And that was a good call. All right. So if you look at that, you kind of compare they both had TV shows ask for evil dead, of course, just cancelled this past April after third season, and they finished it, which is nice par- reason that was canceled those they put it on stars which nobody watches anyway. But Freddie, also had a TV show. Do you remember freddy's nightmares? Yeah. Sorta Jason to for a little while. That's right only around for two seasons. But at. It's a cool show. If you check that out it's got like a prequel episode in it if I remember correctly, it's it's really low budget the way it set up. But it is what it is estimated kill count for ash guy. One for ash forty five really pretty respectable. Yeah. That doesn't count all the dead because they were already dead right L. He's if you count all the ones he has from army darkness. It's yeah. Hundred thousands. Then you look at Freddie, he's got forty two. But then again, he's got a lot more offscreen because he was a child killer. So you don't even know how many has a couple of interesting things, you know, the ashed didn't even get his last name until army darkness the third movie. I never knew he had a last name until doing the research for this. I always thought he was just a hash. Yes. Last name is auntie. No, it's Williams. I thought it was the elbows. It's slash e. This is actually kind of cool the cabinet. They used for evil dead actually had two deaths in that cabin previously before the movie. Really? Yeah. That you know that shit cabin in the woods that they fill original will. This little girl lives with her mother and grandmother in that cabin. So I don't know what year this was maybe like the fifties or forties or some shit like that she went into her mother's room to sleep with her because she was cold FIS out her mother's dead diner bed. Go gets up to go in her grandmother's room to wake her up. She's dead. Yeah. You're gonna warm up cuddled up next to either one of them who've. And then part of the story goes when they were filming this that there was some dude like wandering around around these cabins because this was filmed in the south. So people are like out hunting and shit. So they didn't think anything of it. But then they acid like what are you doing here? And I guess the woman that lived in that house grew up as the little girl grew up every time it rained outside. She would leave the other form house that she had moved to. And she grew up in and go looking in the woods for something. And they were searching for because it was raining outside to help fucking nuts. Is that that's frizty? Yes. Sam rayvey said that they never they don't know if they ever found her anything, but that's a crazy fucking story, man. See when you're an indie filmmaker you gotta sacrifice. We can get a good deal on a location. You gotta take it. Oh, absolutely. How how many people died here? Okay. I'll take it. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds good cook at a discount. We'll talk about budget, though, some other ships. They didn't this movie that never happens any more number one. They used real bullets in the shotgun. When they're shooting in the woods and stuff because they couldn't afford any of the fake stuff. They use a real one and this one you'll love, you know, the part where ashes like kind of going crazy. Yeah. Not where he's like laughing. And that just where he looks like out of sorts or whatever will he we'd real wheat? Why would you eat it while I guess somebody gave it to them the, you know, an edible or some shit the aid it, and that's how the and they just filled it. They just went with Dr method acting guy if really high pretty awesome Shem weird wild stuff down with that as far as neighbor gnome street. You know, west craven said it's loosely based on true stories that he read in newspapers about these people who did not want to go to sleep they're free to sleeping, and then they actually died in their sleep. Yeah. I'm gonna pass on that. It's a hard pass for me. You guys, I'm not I'm not not interested. I'm pretty busy this week. I'm not trying to my sleep. I don't know about you. And then actually the name, Freddie. Krueger was named after west Craven's childhood bully. Really? Yeah. Just took the name. Now. That's the way to get back at your fucking bully. Wait until you're an adult. Right. Create a character that people will fear for the rest of your lives and the name after that bully, and I got the last laugh at fucker. What do you think they designed his face around? If you're looking at FREDDY Krueger's face. What's the first thing that comes to mind Nash e elbows? Wow. Drake's coffee cake. You don't remember those those little Drake's coffee cakes that had like the Little Brown bits on the top. No, let's face not around though. All right next time. You look at his face. Just remember that they designed that around a pizza. Okay. My next guest was my nut sack. So. No those little liver spots. Shriveled Mr James at appears your nut sec has gotten more liver spots. Are you a you following your study diet? All right last three. Just gimme a a true or false in these right, original nightmare, elm street. Freddy was in the movie for only seven minutes. I'm gonna go with false in the original. I'm gonna say true. That would be true yet. Screen time. I knew he wasn't. I knew he wasn't in the film that long. I didn't know it was that short though, it's pretty crazy. All right. Freddy was in a rap song with the fat, boys. True. False that one is true. Am the song is are you ready for FREDDY men Will Smith must have been pissed. Yeah. Because Bevere they went through that lawsuit shit all the seedings sticker on it this part of nightmare street. Finally was there a porn parody named a wet dream on elm street. Oh, I'm certain. If there wasn't there should be the answer is true. There was. All right. It's been good guys. It got something to do. Also you later. It's about a guy that makes people orgasm in their sleep till they die. So it's a biography. Again for me. It's going to be a hard pass. I don't believe that. Okay. For me guys. It's going to be a soft. We're talking Cinemax at eleven o'clock, soft, right? All right. So that's all I got of course, Ashdod when this took fifty nine percent of the vote home. So our grand champion. Ashley Williams took the tournament of terror our first ever tournament on our Facebook pays go. Check that out. Like, I said, we got the eighties nineties rock outings right now, get it. Yeah. That's going to be a good one. There's some great matchups. I've been jamming out to this music all day. I don't know about you guys. But since I've been making these matchups so many good albums, and I know typically eighties usually comes out over the nineties looking at some of these early matchups. Maybe we're gonna see the nineties prevail for the first time. I don't know it's up to you guys. So make sure you go on the dueling decades Facebook page in Castroville. Yeah. You're seeing a lot more nineties people joining now too. So yeah, it's starting to starting to balance out. Yep. Definitely evening out. Definitely. All right. So let's. Get into some movies on the show before we've played a game called Mary. Fuck kill which I'm sure everybody's familiar with. We wanted to find a way to adapt this popular movies. So we're gonna play are versions of it. We're gonna call that remake rewatch or return where you pick a movie that you wanna see a remake of one that you definitely would watch again or one that you're gonna return it's complete trash just throw it out. The most interesting thing about all of this is we didn't even get to pick our own fucking categories. That's right. Sorry. We got some help from migraines. Over video Rangers podcast picked our categories for us. All right. So I'm gonna start this one out and what Mike ranger gave me is my first category was blaxploitation films. Gorth e did. He did wildcard. Yeah. He knows. I love some blaxploitation. We've talked about it several times. So all right. So the three movies that I selected for this round where across one hundred ten th street with ya fat Koto who you'd know from alien and live, and let die that's a fantastic glassblowing tation film, and then two thousand nine black dynamite that movies everywhere. Now, it's been streaming on Netflix and on prime. Not sure if it's still available, but I would definitely go and pick that up it's an Omani to classic blaxploitation films. And then the third one I picked was nineteen seventy three's classic blackened Stein. So remake rewatch or return crossed one hundred ten th street, black dynamite or blackened Stein. Which one which one stars Abe wcgo? Does that black dynamite? No, no. He was black done. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I meant that that was just as nickname streets. Slinging rock. Yeah. Picked it up when he was working at good burger. I'm going to be honest. I haven't seen any of these frigging movies. So I have no idea what to go with here. I'm going to go with go the rewatch black dynamite. Because it's obviously the most recent which would be one way to hook me. And so I'll just go with rewatch by that. I mean watch I would remake. What was the was the first one across what one thousand yards or something? Remaking rename it. Why not? Across one hundred ten th street. Yeah. That I loved the the guy that played Santa Claus. And that. Some three make that one just in time for the holidays. And then I'm going to return the other one dances with wolves or whatever. No that was black and dances with wolves. Hey, I didn't pick the categories. I had to work with them. That's exactly what I picked remake across one hundred ten th street. I'm gonna rewatch black dynamite all day long and blocking Stein. Let's just forget all about that one. Moore's Rickman cross stand on these these if it's if black Stein is as bad as Blacula. I save remake that because Blacula was horrible. I know some people out there like what knows terrible. I would return across whatever street Ross one hundred ten th street like the the worst name for movie ever, you never gonna remember that. And then we return rewatch rewire black dynamite. Rewatch? Good one. All right. Yeah. So that's what I went with my three blaxploitation movies, right? Actually like across a hundred and ten stirred. I can't push that movie enough. I really wish that they would remake it. Oh, I thought you said you wanted to return that one. No, no, no, I'm remaking across hundred ten th street all day long for years. I wish they would remake this movie. It's a great tale about to New York City cops ago after some amateur crooks who try to rip off the mob. So you have the mob versus the crooks versus the cops fantastic. Just rename it across the street and like be so much better. Marketing wise. It probably would down the block. All right. Both rather. You wonder? I got for my category, teen comedy. Oh, no. So my three picks. This was tough for me to decide which what I would do with these the breakfast club who there's Buehler's day off an American pie. That's a tough one. I'm just gonna make it tougher here because Mr. Mike ranger gave me teen sex comedies. I had American pie in that. So I will rewatch the breakfast club. Man. I'll read a return ferris Buehler's day off because I've seen it three thousand times, I know them kind of cheating there. But actually know what I'll return American pie because that's one of my picks. And then I will remake ferris Buehler's day off, which is even that's even blasphemous. But I know they've talked about that in the past. So I would watch it, but remake it fuck it, Mark. All right for for mind, man, I'm going to remake the breakfast club. I was going to go that route. But here's the thing. What new actor would you wanna see any of those fucking roles lease with ferris bueller? It's just one motherfucker. You got a recast. You would have to do all unknown actors and even have Saturday detentions anymore. How this would work. Maybe I'm just curious to say how they would fuck up a remake. No cell phones. The movie I'm returning on this one shocker American pie. Not a huge fan of it. I love fair Spillers day off. And I love the breakfast club. I just don't think American pie holds a candle to either one of those. So I'm returning that one and I'm going to rewatch fierce bueller all day. I am in the exact same boat. I think I would reboot the breakfast club with the the stranger things kids. Ooh. Not really idea. I'm not doing that. I would I would remake the breakfast club. I'd rewatch fares Buehler's day off because I do that countless times anyway despite its cultural significance. I would return American pie. Yeah. Definitely. All right, man. Chris what was your first category giving you by Mike rain? Oh, man. Here's an easy one that gave me action movies. But it wasn't easy because it was hard to pick stuff. I picked three movies one based on relevance because it was just released thirty years ago yesterday. And that's they live on the listen Roddy piper another one that just popped up. Today was actually the twenty fifth anniversary of a classic movie. They went to shit and that was cop Dunston chicks in picked RoboCop the best of the trilogy, and then Lastly I picked lethal weapon. What do you have? And what you can't remake RoboCop because they're to try that shit. And it was awful. I'm gonna go with a reboot they live. I'm gonna rewatch robocup. What was the other one the weapon I'm gonna I'm gonna return lethal weapon? How I was a big robo Cup fan as a kid loved Rohbock love watching Peter Weller just get shot to shit by red form and that opening scene. Just literally murdered him. I shit you not I just rewatch that two days ago still holds up fantastic movie. I'd buy that for a dollar. Hey, Philo poopers. Thanks for listening. If you're enjoying our show, you are going to loan. That's gold with Steve heightened you may new Steve if you're a Seinfeld fan as Jerry's annoying comedian friend, Kenny Bania who coined the term that's on. That's gold. Steve is joined by co host rich Johnson to talk about everything. Guys loan sports and sports betting movies comedy, food and drink using in more five days a week. Having a conversation with your buddies at the bar, and it's a bar were famous guests often show up checkout. That's gold with Steve Hytner on apple and Google podcasts. Spotify or work ever? You get your podcast today. So what I had on that one is I'm going to remake RoboCop while you're wrong. Bo that can no. Did you see that blasphemous piece of art? I did I tried calling it a piece of art as e. Yeah. What's what you're talking about taking a great cast, and that just shitting all over them. Well, see with some remakes they change a little bit. And that's okay. So I think if we're going to remake RoboCop we're gonna go with Robert cop, and I'm going to remake RoboCop movie called Robert cop. So you're making a parody close enough wasn't RoboCop. Three a parody. I guess. I'm going to have to return. They live. Oh, man. I know that's going to be unpopular. I came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum. So that means I'm going to rewatch lethal weapon probably for the seventy fifth time. But that's okay. Because no one can get enough Danny Glover and his sexy s. I'm going to take a page out of Bose book. Then I'm going to return lethal weapon because I have seen a billion times. And just by you saying that I was like man, I really have seen that movie. Fathom. How many times what about loaded weapon with Amelia Savell? That's no, I'd return that I would definitely rewatch RoboCop. And this is kind of just as bad as returning. They live remaking it without Roddy piper. But. I think I would try to give that a shot as you know, give it a reboot. Could do it this time with Rhonda Rosie? I mean, it's it's really it's topical. Now more than ever, you know, when you think about -solutely, you know, people like living by their phones, you know, like shit telling them what to do. So I think they they could spin it a different way and still have they live at the as a TV series. Now, you know, we talked about rebooting RoboCop. Again, why don't we take Jay Barra shell from the robo Capri boot? And then just put him in. They live as Roddy piper character, I would buy that for dollar the wind would blow that dude over. That's the point only if all the bad guys were Michael, Sarah. That should be the next on movie, the world's Wimpy issed fight movie. Michael, Sarah, cheap Berra. She'll you can add you can add in mclovin for. Actually, he was awesome in kick ass. So I think that would work that'd be funny shit. I'd watch that if it didn't take it so seriously or if it took it so seriously actually, do what about lethal weapon redone with those two. That would be fucking phenomenal. Yeah. But she know if they redo lethal weapon they're gonna put like Kevin Hart in there. And it's going to be like some of their, you know, good looking white, dude. Right or fucking Wayne's brother or something stupid like that. Give me Kevin Hart and Steve bosomy in a legal weapon. Team in weans and Scholley him Scott. That would never work close enough. Well for word it's funny because Daymond wages leaving the show now. Yeah, I know. So they hired Sean, William Scott. He's like fucking this dudes. I'm out of here. It's time good tool for the shit. I'm not gonna make a movie with a guy who made a moving guy who fucked pie. I'm a ways, dammit, I like Solway of Scott. He's the same fucking character. And every single day a one trick pony. But he's at least entertaining, man. All right. So moving onto the next category that was handed down to me by Mike ranger, and that's mockumentary. Oh, and he would he gave you the fuck it deep cuts, man. He did he gave me some deep cuts. So I had to match them deep cut for deep cut on this one. Boy, the three I picked out from this one was lost two hundred street. No, it was the first one I picked out was borat. Of course, one pretty popular. One in one of my all time favorite CB, four one. Recently rediscovered is electric APR ikat the quest for festival ru which I don't know if you guys have seen that it was set up public domain. I'd never heard. In conjunction with good friends over at trauma, and it was a movie that was put out by less. Klay pool of primis. It's basically a parody of the early nineties hippie culture, you know, with the Grateful Dead and all the different festivals. It parodies all of that to a T law degree cameos in that one. It's on prime right now, check it out. All right. So those are the three I picked electric Apor Kat CB four in borat for my category. Machien terry's. All right. I'm going to turn the apricot movie was electric apricot. Turn that Africa doesn't seem to harder. Turn that never heard of it. They got plenty of copies rewatch borat, and then remakes cellblock four. But then again like, I don't want Kevin hardness too. Kevin Hart doesn't have to be an every God every time they need a funny black guy. Gimme Kevin art at some still doesn't even have to be traditionally a black actor in the role. I mean, you could remake three's company with Kevin Hart, and it would be fantastic. I actually I think his popularity has gone down quite a bit. I mean, the do is just nights school was in the movies like three days or something. So yeah, I saw an interview with a comic recently who was talking about Kevin Hart and his comment was once you start playing stadiums. It's only downhill from there. Oh, yeah. Dane cook. Yeah. What the fuck happened a him? Nobody reboot one of his specials. It's not like he needs the money. Can we just return Dane cook? Please. I said I thought he was funny. I will say employee of the month is is a movie that I thoroughly for him. And that's Dane cook movie. Honestly, I think Andy dick is the standout movie. Yeah. You might be. I like to stand up. It wasn't a fan of any of his movies all rom coms yet, even though he did have sex with Jessica Alba. Jessica simpson. Oh, man. He had a rough rough go of it while he was famous. All these co-stars are terrible can't believe that to bang them. And Lisa Simpson to God. And OJ. I'm sorry. What was the last movie? I guess I'm remaking that one. What was it again see before? Oh, see I did said. Okay. My bad. All right. Good. Bo. I think I'm gonna fall in line with you. I'm going to remake CB four never seen it. I'm a return electric glue. And I'm going to rewatch borat because of my favorite movies of all time. Sadly, I'm remaking CB four. I love CB four fan. Tastic one of Chris rock's best Chris rock, Chris Elliott. Chris Farley all the Chris's are in that it. It's fantastic can't say enough about CB four. I think I've seen that movie probably more times than any other movies. We've mentioned on the list, excluding robocup. So I'm remaking that except I want to do it as a total modern concept and have it be in the same universe. So now, it's a new generation of upcoming hip. Hop stars that are conning their way to to fame and success. I think that could really parody what's going on. And. Current modern music. I'm gonna rewatch electric apricot over and over again, the quest which is through call it apricot, apricot, apricot Africa could be Africa Africa. Fuck fuck an apricot apricot pra. That was a great Steve Miller song all day on that one. And I'm returning borat. I'm sorry. That movie sucked. He was a feel like to be wrong. This is black. Gene, hang lake sleeve of wizard. Well, this kill the gypsies Lander some how could you think that movies bad? He fuck it shows dude a picture of a dude's dick in polaroid. Okay. It's not that the movies bed. It just sucks now. I know. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why rewatching see for me. It got worse. Every time that I was forced to rewatch it. So it's not a huge borad fan. I don't think it's the best work. He's ever done as an actor. I I saw bohemian rhapsody last weekend, and I can't help. But wonder what that movie would have been like with him as FREDDY Moore. That's what he wanted. Right. Right. Yeah. And I think at one point it was pretty much gonna happen for some reason it it didn't do their their visions didn't mesh. I guess it's a shame. He really could have. I mean that would have been an Academy Award for him hands down key imagine Borek fucking kademi award. Playing Freddie mercury's you ever see Bruno or the whole see where he's giving his dead boyfriend head Oskar for that. And the winner for best simulated necrophiliac Felicia goes to Sasha baron Cohen. The golden penis award or some shit. Don't they give the man away for for porn don't act like, you don't know? Now, come on. March Lincoln about figure stories I just looked at the golden weenie or some shit like that. All right. Anyhow, he gave me really fucked up one here. There was tough. I didn't know how to pick this child porn. Nope. It was medical dramas. Oh, I think he meant to give this to Mark. But somehow he gave it to me. And I went with the only three movies. I can think of at one is questionable. I have outbreak Philadelphia. Ooh. And fifty first dates. It's medical drama. I'm returning fifty first dates I'm getting that out of the way. I see you're giving somebody aids again. Yes. Yeah. I'm going to give myself aids on that one because I'll rewatch that movie all day, Philadelphia's a fantastic movie. So I guess you guys know what I'm remaking pasta. Sheltered cheese. So third night in a row. What about you? Bo. Let's I'm definitely returning fifty first dates, I really take her leave that movie and most as it's going to be leave. I wish I would have forgotten about that movie. Man. If you if you reboot Philadelphia that could give somebody a pretty good opportunity to win a some some pretty good hardware like an Oscar again kind of thing a second time around they'd win it. I don't know. He wanted the last time, right? Tom Hanks, he should have he got aids that rolls. I mean, he did. Well, again, method acting. I'm gonna reboot Philadelphia. And then I'm gonna I'm gonna rewatch the Osceola one outbreak. I don't know what that one is. So all we watch it you'd never see. Wow. The mung. What is the rule with me? If I tell you. I haven't seen a movie don't be shocked. It's actually I wouldn't call. It a shocker movie that you hadn't seen it in the medical drama realm. Yes, you have to see it goes along the lines of what's the other one came out maybe like ten years ago? Oh, your it was almost few head if you had basic cable in the late nineties. There's no way you didn't see out. Yeah. It was always on. Dustin hoffman. We had farmers cable. No, what's the name of the one that came out like ten years ago? There was roughly the same premises outbreak. What the fuck was that movie? Contagion contagion. All right. So like ten years ago, they basically remade outbreak with contagion. So where do I go? I would. I. I'm gonna return Philadelphia. That's depressing as fuck but Bruce Springsteen. Wait, which is for that. Because all streets Philadelphia all thinking in my head is city of ruin. Oh, yeah. It is Philadelphia. Aids. For the dancer dark. Come on full, the razz and. Right. I turned Philadelphia. I'm going to us pains to do this. But I'm going to rewatch fifty first dates. What a punish myself? Over here because I have to remake outbreak. I think outbreak is a an awesome movie, but it's dated now 'cause nobody's fucking around with monkeys anymore. Speak for yourself. I'm not gonna get anything. Fuck around a monkey. Everybody knows better. So I would redo outbreak with some other like crazy fucked up virus, you know, like you bowler, some shit shingles chicken hawks files. Rush sinus infection. You're infections Perot news disease. Everyone just started googling Peronist cities and. Prequel with like polio. Oh, that'd be a good one. It starts. Teddy roosevelt. Surpr- tagged. All right. What are you guys have left? All right. So for my final category that was handed down to me by Mike ranger. He gave me police comedy movies. So the three I selected where police academy Beverly Hills cop in the naked new you're going with that last one. What do you got on that Bo remake rewatch or return? I'm going to remake police academy. I'm going to rewatch naked gun because that's timeless, and I'm gonna return Beverly Hills cop more of a Beverly Hills ninja fan, I think it's Farley opus easily. That that's what he was highest in. I don't feel so bad now for saying that Bora. All right. Just to rectify that. I'm going to rewatch Beverly Hills cop. I'll return naked gun. I'm an airplane fan, man. Fuck Neg again. And then I guess I'll remake police Gada me. I think. Yeah. That that's one of those movies that has to be remade. But you need to put together on Sahwil cast. I just don't know who would be in that shit. That's exactly what I had and is returning. The naked gun rewatching Beverly Hills cop in remaking police academy. And I do know who I want in my lead on that playing the role of Mahoney who want Jason sedates. That's a good one. I think we talked about this before he needs other like, I think like Z's on. Sorry would be good in that. Oh, yeah. You know, have have the Indian guy that's a little more topical than like a screech. Yeah. We talked about this a couple of years back, and we had left out a whole remake for this with all new characters. So I'm down for a police academy remake how Hannibal Burruss. Oh guy Kevin Hart. Takes hours. No, the rock cannot be in it. No, the rocks and everything. Yeah. Give them a break. And Jack black. That's right. He could take over for Bob cat. Yeah. That'd be good. I'll be dead. The hell's going to be those going to be the sound effects guy. Bring them back. Michael Winslow, you still alive just bring him back. Yeah. All right. He could be like the captain sound guy. Who would you cast for common dental sard say Leslie Nielsen? No longer with us. But if you go with Jeff bridges, Bo bridges. Over that guy, some work for God's sake. Office school. Other know who who older actors actually, I would put Bruce Willis as something but ever since the Kevin Smith book, I just see him as such deuce bag. It's so funny you bring that up because at the last minute, I changed my return from to the naked gun. I originally had cop out in there. Cop rock that movie is horrible debt, Tracy, Morgan has some awesome lines that movie though, he makes that movie he does. And if you've heard some of the stories that Kevin Smith shared about the filming of that, it's horrible. You know, how Bruce Willis complained about everything and Tracy Morgan just would always show up early. Even though he was in pain because of his problems with his feet, and yeah, just it's a real letdown to know that Bruce Willis walking piece of shit. But death becomes her. It was a great movie. Not death wish. Which was also the name of my razor scooter, by the way, was death becomes her death wish death wish. Okay. All right. So we're back to both for his last round. That was my last one I have two categories left to go through. So my second category is western movies fitting, so I picked tombstone true grit. Classic and three ten to Yuma. The floor is yours. I'm gonna return three ten to Huma. I dunno. I tried to watch it. I just could not get into that movie. It moved way too slow for me. I would agree. I'm rewatch and true grit. I love that movie. And I might just follow it up rooster. Cogburn tombstone, I guess you can remake that again that story's been done a thousand times. So why not do it? One more time. You know, it's only a matter time, they already rebooted, true grit. So I mean and three ten to you might think was a reboot the one with the Christian bale and Russell Crowe. And what's nice about remaking tombstone? Is you don't have to pay anybody for that story? That's history, that's public domain, so remake that as much as you want. Take all the liberties you want with it. That's right. Tombstones to to. All the good franchises. Go to space the leprechaun. I'll be your goal Mary. I'm going to return actually might picks are exactly the same. As yours was nothing to change. I'm not a big fan of grit. But like you said, but the Christian bale flick its way, slow tombstone. I love watching a million times. But like you said it's easy enough to redo it. You're not gonna ruin it because it's history. Well, you can ruin it. But it's it's unanimous. Then that's exact same way. I'd go with it. Now if you had unforgiven in there with tombstone. Ooh, that would have been ugly. That would have been a tough one might have to return unforgiven on that one. I don't know. It's hard. That's a hard one hard one. All right, go to in a robo. Okay. Last category. I got his legal drama what the fuck. A few good men. Erin Brockovich and another Adam Sandler curveball in big daddy. Okay. I guess I'd return Erin Brockovich, not a big fan of hers big teeth. I'd rewatch big daddy. And then I'd remake was the other one few good men who good man, I'd remake that just to ruin it without Tom Cruise. Who yells you can't handle the truth in your Riboud? How man I dunno. Tom hardy. Kevin hart. Make it into a comedy. So I am returning big daddy, man. I can't do that. Because then. All right. Fuck it. I'm gonna return Erin Brockovich, remake big daddy. I really doesn't need every make. But one I could redo it again. You could do the same movie with the same characters. But now he's taking care of his father as a senior citizen, wiping his ass. Juca just do at the same characters. I haven't changed. Sunny, he still plays sunny the fucking boy where his fucking name was Julian Frankenstein for the old guy. The old guys did Leslie man's Ted still look great. I still don't believe she worked at hooters, though. Yeah. She was a fried coke. Yeah. Working the floor. No, she she she swept the floor though. So just don't get rid of rob Schneider in that movie. Oh, actually the supporting cast in that movie is is top notch. If you while. Yeah. Fucking Dante who they made smart as a lawyer. Did you just use rob Snyder and top notch in the same sentence? Come on. Delivery guy that movie there's something wrong with you his teeth or made of wood. This Colombo be stupid smart. Little tack. So I guess that means I'm going to rewatch a few good men. And of course, I always rewatch that movie because few good men is one of my favorite all time movies. It is the Aaron Sorkin masterpiece. I said Erin Brockovich, no. Too high for the ship stuff. Fucking. All right over to you man, crush. What do you got? All right. I got fantasy. And I went with again, I'm not a big fantasy movie person. So one of these might be questionable. But I got the crow. All right. The Highlander and cool is ice. You know, that vanilla ice movie were always dancing with the turtles everyone thinks. He's really cool. It's fantasy. Exactly, that's what I think. That's real fucking fantasy. Ain't that cool. And he can't fuck an act if you did have the shit. He didn't that movie he'd be arrested or dead can only be one man, there can only be one. So I'm not going to remake Highlander. I'm gonna return highly under. I'm not a fan of that movie. I know it's a shocker, but never never could get into that franchise. Just I don't know to Sifi. Christopher Lambert sucks. Dick. I I don't know couldn't just get into it at all. In the movie. No, if I could've walked come on Jesus he felt his in the movie God. No, please. Oh that was the sequel. That what they call it. The quickening. So much shorter movie. I'm going to remake cool as ice because why the hell not too lofty have to do it with vanilla ice. Now. Same character. He's just flipping houses. Cool as ice flips your house, and he puts in a really nice ice machine in your fridge. So and I'm gonna rewatch the crowd. It's been awhile since I've seen that one. I was not a fan of the crow when it first came out. But it's been about ten years since I've seen it. So maybe I'll we watch that one. Again, if it holds up. So I'm going to reboot the crow 'cause you know, that's going to happen at some point. Anyway, as matter of fact, I think it's in the process, I think they stopped it again. But I think yeah, it's like on again off again like that for years. So I'm gonna reboot the crow I'm going to return cool as ice, and I'm going to rewatch Highlander just for the Queen soundtrack. Yeah. That probably was the only redeeming quality of that movie. That's a good point. Big of that. All right. Shit. Guys through some shit out. There made me want to switch my picks up. I'm gonna rewatch cool as ice because it's the best movie you ever watch. If you're I it's crazy. It's the best movie you could want if you're. Hi. It's it's actually it's so bad that it's funny, and you could watch it and find fucked up shit every time you watch it. It's ridiculous. If you've never heard of it, it's probably on prime just look up cool as ice stars vanilla ice as vanilla ice, the wrapper, and it's amazing actually don't even watch the regular version. I watch the rift tracks version much so fucking bad. When the guy can't even play himself in a movie. Oh, he plays himself. All right plays with himself, the Afghan it so bad. So I'd rewatch that I would return the Highlander. I think you're right on that. It's been a long time since I watched that I'd probably be boarded tears now. And I'd like Bo said try to remake the crow the the whole franchises cursed. Man. Brandon Lee died. I think what the hell's the guy from the second one who started his name is Vincent cruiser something his career died than Eddie furlong was in it. His career died. And then he will sue Schick from American pie. Terra? What the fuck is her. Last name Terry read is in it. She ERC died. She got bad breast implants. It's just I man is ever going to happen. But I think it deserves reboot. I think they can rebut it. I don't like some of the cast that they've thrown around on previous years when they've tried this. I think it really needs a whole new direction probably more based on the comics. So I don't know maybe they can get it. Right. This time and maybe get to j para shell on there. You know, who I've always thought it would be really good. If the crow that really like personifies, air driven the character more. So from the comic books, I'd say the movie is Kevin Hart. Wasn't. All right. That's that's pretty much. All he he didn't give me one extra one real quick. He said teen sex comedies. That's really close to bows. And I threw in that American pie revenge of the nerds zapped. No porkies. Not the biggest porkies fan I like meatballs better than porkies by. But that other enough woolen their knit a sweater. I think they should remake revenge. The nerds. I've wanted a decent remake for that of that movie for years ever since I I heard that FOX had planned on remaking it, and luckily that got shit can because the casting and direction of of that particular remake was atrocious. I'm gonna return zapped because I don't need a copy of it because I have a copy over here on VHS. So I'm gonna return that so cheater. Yeah. I guess I'm gonna have to fuck and rewatch that movie on I kinda screwed myself into that with American. So well that worked out for me. Now, didn't it over to you bow? I'm gonna return zapped. I'm going to reboot revenge of the nerds. And I'm going to rewatch American pie. Probably the safer way to go. You could tell he's such a child of the nineties can help it. You know, you you put Shannon, Elizabeth breasts in front of me and I'm captivated. I don't know who hasn't fucked fresh pie shan't channel is with or Heather Thomas. I gotta go. Thomas house other Thomas? Oh, Heather Thomas or of the Wendy's owner. Dave, Tom just. Yeah. Google image, Heather, Tom zapped. Okay. Here we go. Great get a photo of a girl getting taste. Thanks a lot. Okay. All right. Okay. I've said I'm guessing is that the the pink pink sweatshirt you're getting what else was this lady in shoes in a lot of things in the eighties. I'm sure if you go to mister skin, there's better pictures, but I would rewatch zapped. I would return American pie and remake vengeance. Nerds. Yeah. I'm done with that. Although jeez, all these Heather Thomas picks. That's got me thinking, man. Why didn't we include her in the eighties nineties crushes that? We just did on Facebook as well. She would have been a great one to include in this the world may never know. She's kind of a deep cut though. Yeah. That was a show. It was Sheila fall guy. I think she's on the fall guy. She actually still looks pretty good to this day. Oh, yeah. How old is she? Now, she'd be in her sixties fifties. She is a sixty one still fall guy for five years. Anyhow, let's close this up. All right. So I guess that's where we'll end this episode fellow poopers. I hope you enjoyed this one. If you missed an episode, though, don't worry you can go back and check out all the episodes over on poop, culture dot com. 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