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The Conspiracy Farm Ep. 109 BioXcellerator Ntl. Dir. of Athletic Performance David Truitt

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The Conspiracy Farm Ep. 109 BioXcellerator Ntl. Dir. of Athletic Performance David Truitt

"Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the conspiracy far where we don't start to conspiracies. We just had the water in now your host of the most state of the Yard Malkin Moldavian four podcast on the inter-web I present to you that militate ladies and gentlemen gritties and citations lays down on and off to the races for another great episode. I'm riding shotgun as always with my partner in crime. UFC Hall of Famer champion Amongst Champions Eater of worlds pat militant how we doing today Tim I'm doing Great Jeffrey and I'm excited about our guest. Today we have had the questions come up about subject matter stem cell research several times over over the past three years and I'm just excited to get into it. I'd love for you to introduce gas and then he can expound upon your introduction and we can get into the the the heavy meat absolutely and there was plenty there my friend and it's very interesting how the universe works. I've been watching the videos from this organization BIO ACCELERATOR DOT COM. That's its bio with an x celebrator DOT COM. I mean obviously you have experience with Matt Hughes. We've all seen what has gone on with Matt Hughes. He's down there. getting awesome stem cell therapy from his accident a few years ago Matt. Maybe they're working with everybody met. He's Ken Shamrock Kevin Nash Ninety six Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle and former WWE alleged Chris Cyborg shell son in there working with a little bit of everybody and I'm so anxious to get into this conversation so we can kind of cut through kind of the missing disinformation and really kind of get to the hardest matter because there's so much more information about this therapy and I'm just really thanks thankful that he's taking the time to come down and anxious to get into it with him. He is the national director rector of athletic performance for Bio Accelerator David at true. It is joining us today. How're you doing today sir. I'm doing good guys. Thanks for having me on the show. Well absolutely thanks for taking the time yeah absolutely and it's an it's an honour. Well and it's also funny. Tell the sorry Jeffery was going to tell the tell the fans at home a little bit more about our connection anyway behind the scenes yeah guy so it's this is a pretty interesting situation. I mean I've had the opportunity to do a couple podcasts here over two thousand nineteen and I know there's a couple of other opportunities that are lined up but this one is very unique in the sense that I actually grew up in Davenport Iowa where you know pat has spent a large portion of his life in when I was in high school Jeff I actually I was telling pat earlier today. When we run a phone call all I used to actually go to Jim in bettendorf Iowa when I was in high school and my best friend and I would sit on the mats and watch Matt Hughes in Jen's ends poll for and Tim Sylvia and all these guys far you know when you're growing up as a kid in the quad cities are a kid in around the Davenport Iowa area. You know even pat you know. There's that that name like Oh. He's he's PAT militant guys. He's a bad right so it's just really cool. How life plays out in fifteen years later. I'm working good with Matt Hughes and now I'm sitting here recorded a podcast with that yes mysterious way. I love that I just absolutely love how that works out. So if you don't mine I mean my goodness dude. I mean you know obviously some champions can come from the quad cities. Tell us how you you know that bridge that gap from from the Quad Cities Davenport Iowa to how you got to working with bio my own celebrator. Yes yes so basically guys I grew up in the quad cities area went to Davenport West. High School graduated there air in two thousand seven and then went on to play a couple of years of junior college football. I played a year out in Mason city. Iowa play year Ellsworth Community College in Iowa falls they had the opportunity to to try and walk on at the University of Iowa and then suffered a shoulder injury that required that I had to get surgery on my labor and just had had multiple concussions as well so you know at thirty one years old guys I'm sitting here with six concussions. three of them classified as severe and was doing a little bit of amateur. MMA in in fighting out there at at Amsterdam as PAT's probably been out there and seeing a few of the fights back in the days and you know I it really just got to a situation Jewish guys. Were I got tired of cold weather. I got tired of snow and just up and move to Phoenix Arizona one day and I mean it was very much. An Old West tale of I woke up uncalled my best friend Mitch Pain in Bettendorf Iowa and said hey man I'm leaving in ten days and he went. What the hell are you talking about. I was I told him I was going to pack up open head. West and I literally I've always been a sports memorabilia collector and even as you know as a young kid. I wasn't the guy that wanted to go to the parties in drink and hang out with the cool kids. I wanted to go to the Quad City River bandits game or go to Chicago cubs game or go the Hawkeyes and so for me I always surrounded rounded myself in athletics and I've lived breathed and just slept athletics every moment of my life and I got that opportunity to take the autographs and the things that I had collected and sell them so that I could really kinda. Go and start my adult life. I I took that opportunity so I sold all my stuff on craigslist Ebay. Wherever I could to get rid of it it made roughly five thousand dollars in cash over a ten day period and I'm not kidding you guys I packed up my Chevy cobalt with my flat screen TV my laptop op and Xbox and whatever close I can fit in the car and I headed to Arizona. No job lined up. No place to live didn't know a single person in the city and my dad's going. Are you freaking nuts. I go. I told my dad guys I said listen. I said people used to do this. One hundred years ago in a horse drawn carriage not going to a city. I'm I'm a pretty smart guy. I got a lot of personality. I'll figure it out and I've been here February first. Two Thousand Twenty will be ten years that I've been in the desert exum awesome congratulations dude man. That's a that's a great success in American story right there. We'll take note John. Nothing ventured. Nothing gained however you WanNa say you miss. It's all the hundred percent of the shots. You don't take fortune favors the bold. I mean this guy's you know obviously taken the limits that he was given in life made some darn pretty sweet taste and lemonade so yeah absolutely man. I was working. I was working at North Park. Mall Selling Dish Network for ten dollars an hour and people were telling me to you know to go screw myself. I self every five minutes that I tried to talk to them about their cable television coach so you know. I I came out here guys in I mean it really was a situation of creating the opportunity for yourself and you went for making ten dollars an hour working at the mall in Davenport to the day that I arrived in Phoenix. I had a job interview set up on a Friday. The the company offered me a forty thousand dollar salary to start the following. Monday and I never looked back. I've been here ever since and I've always been that guy that I don't believe in taking steps backwards so I will turn opportunities and things away if it means you know that there is going to be that step back because I'm a believer that the only time that you should ever do anything thing is if it's going to propel your life forward or propel that career forward and you know I've always taken that to heart and I think a lot of that growing up in the Midwest and you know being raise the way that I was raised in having those traditional values and morals and here I am ten years later guys. I did not graduate college so I do not have a a finished degree. I mean you know once injuries and things happened that was kind of it and I come from a family where I'm the only person that graduated high school and nobody else went to college and Eh you know here I am as the just as of last week guys was promoted to the title director of athletic performance meaning that bio accelerator we are creating creating entire division of the company simply devoted to athletics and building partnerships and I get to spearhead that because of the efforts that I put in so that's awesome that is very much. That's success story. Thank you and without a doubt man and it's you know like you said before it. It's really you just have that personal personal ethic within you because like you said even back in the day you didn't necessarily choose to go to halftime or over to rip co or whatever it was these these quad city haunts you made a choice to kind of take a different different route that wasn't so party orientated or not so productive so good for you man but that's just the fabric of the human being you are and you know getting into that's awesome. Oh you guys now have a whole wing necessarily dedicated to athletes win on your page like I said I was studying it for a while. You got people with Parkinson's that are getting stem cells people trying to address dress baldness that are getting stem cells. I happen to find it very fascinating with athletes because you know you have some obviously high level elite athletes who like John Morrison Johnny Monday whatever his name are a lot of these guys been taking bombs for ten fifteen twenty years Kevin Nash that are coming in and just having you know revolutionary just chewed usually impactful results from this thing that they call stencil stem cell therapy and we go back to Peyton manning over to Germany and having to get what he had done snacking intern cetera. Give us the baseline brother. What is this is what we're working with with conversation what are stem cells to begin with so stem cells guys what they actually are? It is the specific regenerative repaired of cell in the human body. So would you get injured as a Kid Jeff. I always tell oh my patients think back to five years old eight years old ten years old. You know when you were a kid you could do anything. Injure yourself you. Go out and just do the stupidest things literally rip your arm off and you felt like as a kid. You could watch it. Grow back right in front of your face and you could go back to doing the exact doc same thing that got. You injured like nothing happened right. We'll go try that in your twenties in your thirties and then go beyond that and try any of that stuff. It doesn't work right the reason why is this when and you're young your body is producing a very high level of what is called the adult stem cell so that is the specific molecular level biology allergy cell in the human body that promotes growth in that regeneration that gives us that fast recovery time so what we're doing is we're taking athletes athletes that have been around the block for quite a while or take it a lot of bumps and bruises like you discuss. Jeff and what we're doing is we're implementing fresh adult mezin. Kimmel stem stem cells directly into orthopedic injuries spine and disc injury into the spinal fluid to access the brain for concussion symptoms and it's giving that body the the level of healing that it hasn't probably had in quite a while and I mean it's miraculous what it can do. When I'm sorry go ahead. No these these these specific cells that you're talking about regenerate the body in in such quick fashion. I'm guessing that H H levels dictate that quite a bit right that would be correct okay. I was just wondering about that because yeah coincides with hgh output right correct oh okay okay well within some of the I guess for lack of a better term controversy is I mean because obviously we're going to get into it. How the there's different application of stem cell therapy in unlike the states per se or these different country Germany or Venezuela. What is what is the source of the stem cells. And what is the best source. I guess I've heard from the videos and help me if I'm wrong. If the the A source of stem cells that are the ones that come from yourself that would actually not be accurate best source of stem cell is going to be from the umbilical biblical cord of a newborn baby so you know you talked about the controversy Jeff and pat you got to this a little bit as well you know ten years ago the the United States kind of put some bands on the development of stem cell therapy and really restricted the the regulations of what you can do because there was all this controversy about stem cells being extracted from an aborted fetus. That's not quite the case anymore. There's three there's three applications in which you can typically extract stem cell from or for a patient at bio accelerator ninety nine percent of every patient that we're going to be treating their stem cells are gonna come from the umbilical cord of a newborn baby. Maybe the reason why is because those stem cells when they come from that Warren Jelly inside the umbilical cord. These are the most aggressive form of fresh cells that you could put back into the human body for that regrowth or that regeneration so the way that the process works guys is our laboratory director will get a phone own call at the time that a mother is going to birth saying Suzy Johnson for example. She's going into Labor. Our medical director our laboratory director will go to the hospital hospital gown up just like the doctor or any nursing the delivery room would and at the time when that baby is delivered our laboratory director is the one that makes the the cut the umbilical cord instead of the father the reason why is we're wanting to make sure that the umbilical cord is not damaged anyway or contaminated what happens after that is has that umbilical cord is then transported back to our level three. Iso Certified Laboratory Environment Our laboratory director would immediately start that process of testing and and safety and then in Columbia guys. There's an organization called in Vima very similar to kind of what the FDA does here in the United States in Vima also requires that that we outsource a sample of that same umbilical cord to three independent laboratories so by the time a patient comes down to receive cells from us the the source of those cells has already gone through four very vigorous batteries of testing. We're we're looking for any molecular imbalance within the cell and then we're looking for anything they can be contaminated or harmful to that patient and everything has to pass with unanimous colors between all four of the facilities if it does not inviable requires that we take that umbilical cord quarantine and immediately remove it from our laboratory environment and we would not be able to extract any form of stem cell from at umbilical cord Um so this gets into basically the subject of bioavailability and removing any kind of whatever you guys micro plasmas which essentially the bacteria cells. I noticed that you guys do a very stringent process to make sure these things are very pure. Stem cells correct and we do whenever a patient would come to us to receive treatment guys. You know one look at things that people are amazed about is this is this is healthcare on a level that is just unrivaled here in the United States. I mean most procedures procedures here in the United States ninety percent of the time unless you're having a major surgery. The doctor walks in hey pat. This is what we're GonNa do to you today. Then typically that doctor walks out of the room and assistant or a secondary person's GonNa come in and actually perform the application or the minor procedure with you and Columbia Columbia. It's quite different are doctors are so hands on that you know they're even going out to dinner with some of our patients they take our patients and show them the city when they're there and one of the things that people are typically commonly amazed with some of the feedback that I get is when you go to receive a stem cell administration with bio accelerator our laboratory director actually will come out and meet you and talk about your specific stem cells show you the testing results and even show you the paperwork where the mother other signed off that she was donating that umbilical cord so for our patient they know that we have checked all the boxes when it comes to you know just moral and ethical practices is but also safety regulations you know so so that brings me to there are many different types of stem cells aren't there there are multiple types of stem cells and what we're specifically quickly. Focusing on PAT is specifically that adult Mezin Kim will sell as that is a regenerative cell. Okay okay just checking on that. We've they had so fantastic. It will something that I've noticed in when you say I mean obviously bio accelerator is located in Columbia and that obviously brings kind of I guess its own stigma to it. Unfortunately just because of you know the last twenty thirty years. How has that been as far as getting folks to kind of bridge that gap because everything I've seen like Matt. I'll move who've here. He said something to that effect like something about that location. It's beautiful. I mean you know South America's obviously a beautiful place you get outside the many drug cartels and all that other stuff. It's a beautiful location how do you how do you get patients to kind of relax as it relates to where they are. You know it's actually you would think that it's difficult. It does get brought up guys every every single patient that I talked to. They always go all right man so come on be realistic with me. Is it safe. Yes it's safe. It's you have arguably could go back a year ago. In the history of the quad cities when there was a lot of stuff going on in rock island in downtown Davenport probably more dangerous than what it is medi medecine right now a lot of people have that stigma of narcos on net flicks the cocaine cowboy documentaries and then the the Pablo Escobar days forty two years ago right but what a lot of people have to stop and realize that Pablo Escobar was forty years ago. Let's go back to Detroit Michigan forty years ago and talk talk about how safe of a city that is. Let's talk about Detroit today right here in our own backyard. Let's talk about Chicago Illinois. It's the number one homicide capital in the United States right now. You know there's always a bad part of the city that you can find if you're looking for it right and that's just happens whenever you have a mass population of people medicine as a city that in two thousand fifteen was voted the number one most innovative city in the entire world and to your point. Jeff everybody that goes down there you know they just rave about the experience because it's a culture that's very much built off kind of family in an atmosphere and taking care of one another of one another and they're really big on tourism there as well so a lot of times what happens is our patients. Go there and they go. Oh my God. This was completely different than what I expected did and you know Kevin. Nash is a guy that you that you mentioned Jeff. He's actually looking at buying real estate down there. I have a patient I have a regular everyday guy that's going down to do treatment with us next month and he had me book his hotel an extra night because he's meeting with the realtor to look at buying a second home there for him and his wife to retire so it's a very very safe environment and it's just overcoming that stigma that you alluded to and I imagine the level or the frequency of the treatments admits is going to have to do almost directly correlated with the nature of the trauma whether it's like I said baldness or Parkinson's or whatever how often are these do. These treatments have to be applied. It's obviously not a one stop up shop most patients that actually is going to be a one stop shop for the orthopedic stuff the spine this stuff you know the the common things that were treating a weekly basis guys usually because of the number of stem cell and because of the advanced science that we can have behind it that you can't do here in the United States in normally is going to be a one and done procedure for a patient now in the case of Matt Hughes that we talked about you know Matt suffered bird the most severe form traumatic brain injury that a human body can suffer without debt guy like Matt because his injury was so severe took such a toll on the body mad is doing three different treatments with us but that is very very far and few situation most patients guys. They come down for five days. They arrive arrive on a Sunday. They start treatment on Monday. They usually will wrap up early Friday afternoon. Enjoy One last night in the city before they start their trek back home on a Saturday awesome. So what what what type of results are we seeing with your patients. You know the the improvements in their health and their brain function. I mean it's it's incredible pat. It's it's here's what people often refer to win. I just met with Chris Jericho the the professional wrestler in the lead singer of the rock band Fauzi you know he I was talking to me the other night about doing stem cell for himself and his kids while he was here in Arizona and when I was explaining to the results that Matt Hughes as seen or the results that the ten eight year old child who suffered the same brain injury is seen he looked at me and wet holy crap. This sounds like a miracle drug. That's really the best way to describe it. I mean or the Celtics. We've gotten to the Fountain of Youth exactly I mean when I first came to the company. You know about a year ago guys. I'm a skeptic like everybody else right. You Know Jeff you talked talked about the peyton manning the Kobe Bryant Tiger Woods all going to Germany so I knew what stem cell was but I had no idea the knowledge that I do today and I always sat there in the back of my mind guys in went. Does this really work the way that people say it does like. Is this guy to be too good to be true right. You know I'll never forget what what the game changing moment was for guys. My very first patient was a gentleman from here in Scottsdale Arizona. He reached out to us because he heard shale son and talk about his experience the on his podcast so this gentleman named Jim gave me a call said David have been in pain for twenty years of my life every single day he had three damaged disk in his lower lumbar and he had already done surgical procedures. Things didn't work for him. He's still living in a life of pain. He's a business owner. He's a guy that wants to work out again and do things that he's not able to do anymore. So we put them through the process. luckily my knowledge base was good enough that I could get him through at the time and you know be intelligent intelligent and understand so we put them through and he says all right David. I want to go ahead and do this so we get them scheduled. He goes down and he does treatment and January. I'm not kidding you guys. He started his treatment on a Monday Thursday morning. I got a text message from him. That verbatim said Holy Crap David. I'm pain free satellite the office and Went Jim. What do you mean your pain free right like. You've been for twenty years now. You're paying free. There's no way this has got to be. He's bluffing right so he's he. He texted me back. He goes. I'm telling you man he goes. I woke up this morning. I have zero pain so month goes by guys he comes back home to Arizona and I'll never forget this was the moment when everything really connected with me on an emotional level and I understood the level of what I offer. Jim gave me a call with tears in his eyes and you could hear his voice voice was choked up and he and I panicked thinking something was wrong and he goes David but just want to say thank you and I went Jim for what and he goes. David listen he goes. I'm a dad man. I have a four year old son and I have a five year old son and he goes in for the first time in my life as has being a father I was able to wake up this morning roll around on the floor and wrestle with my children. That's something I've never been able to do before and that's the moment when I went right. Oh my God what I do. Changes lives and you know it's Matt. Hughes Matt Seen Tremendous Cognitive Repair short term memory is increase. Some of his speech has starting to increase. He's seen increases with his left leg functioning at the level at a higher level than what it was pre treatment and the remember Matt's only five months into his treatment protocol recall with us. It takes a period of time for those stem cells to acclimate to the body and start that actual regeneration process. You know I have another child. That's ten years years old suffered the same accident as Matt. This kid has done everything in American standards that you can do from a medical standpoint and plateaued his dad's a very intelligent eligible guy yes yeah. I was GonNa ask you about that. Yeah I mean his dad you know he he shopped us. He shopped the clinic in Germany. He shopped Dr Neil reared and in Panama and he ultimately landed on us because he felt confident and you know myself and having conversations with me you you know I made him believe that this was the correct option for his son and he loved our medical team as he went through the consultation process and since Zane started doing his treatment process awesome with this guy's as he's come back to America. His speeches drastically increased his dad's doing basically speech therapy with them on a daily basis. They're seeing improvements there. They're seeing memory and cognitive improvements. They're seeing physical improvements to the point that Chad even posted a video on facebook a couple of a couple of weeks ago here guys where his son Zane is standing on the side of a swimming pool Benz at both knees when before he had a left leg that really didn't work much at all key bends is it both knees jumps himself off the side of the swimming pool into his dad's arm in the pool. That's something that he's never been able to experience ever in his life so so the kid is just seen amazing improvements and the feedback that we've gotten from the medical team guys that he is smashing all of his neurological testing that the doctors are putting forth for him as how's he going through this process. Wow that's that's the kind of stories you like to hear. Man Jeff I mean and I I like to call this stuff for lack of a better term mantis life extension technology. I mean I think we're in the infant stages of stem cell therapy but where do you see man prognosticate for us if you will. Where do you see this kind of therapy and this kind of technology analogy going in the next several decades years. I mean I think it's just it's going to become the future of medicine and I think a lot of the athletes that are working with the skies there kind of seeing that as as well right I mean it's you know it's one of those things that people are a little bit skeptical of it because it's new and really because a lot of people just don't have the Education Asian on at Aura people. Don't take the time to do the research and they haven't seen the results that it can produce you know Jeff one of the most groundbreaking articles around stem self therapy here in two thousand nineteen and you guys can look this up while we're sitting here talking to cases this year in the Middle East stem cell therapy was associated to curing hearing HIV. That's a big deal right when you can take somebody who has an ale or an MS condition that ultimately in in America can mean a short term life span and you treat them with stem cell and it shows the ability to not only stop the degeneration of the disease that they're dealing with but also create reversal effects. You know this is something that's GonNa continue to gain traction and and I think it's mostly for L. S. and MS yeah it would even the guy if the regulate it out of the country and that's another thing I wanted to ask I would I mean 'cause the the it's a huge disparity between what's able to be applied here in the US as far as stem cells I write back and I'm just using he's had multiple surgeries or procedures on his shoulder he said but it was basically he could get one thousand stem cells here and there it was like one point something million what is that what's holding holding them back here in the US so basically just the FDA men and you know my obviously a my personal opinion on it as the fact that stem cell therapy can actually fix your the problem of the American Medical Society is kind of built on dollars incense and capitalism. I mean we don't live side David or are you saying the pharmaceutical. The company has a hold on the politics in America waited comical to us but yet so brutally just wrong wrong. What's almost that they'd rather keep your sick than help heal you but I get it. Well and that's the thing guys I mean. Look you know stem cell therapy at the level that we're doing it. We get guys that come to us to do this. They do administrations on their knees and Columbia because we can put forty million stem cells in a knee whereas in America the doctor's going to say eh we need to either cut you replace that knee which comes with its own set of complications downtime. You've taken off work. I mean there's a whole process right and if you do stem cell in America the. FDA says you can do it but it's so limited guys what I always tell my patients when they asked me what's the difference and why do I need to go to Columbia. If you do stem cell in America it's the equivalent to play Little League baseball the moment that you leave the United States borders and you go to receive stem himself immediately skipped everything else and stepped right into the major leagues. I mean it's that much of a difference you know we can treat people with the proper number of cells that they need whereas in America there's a drastic cap on how many cells you can receive their. There's limitations to the science and the testing that goes behind it. It's really not something that currently American standards want it to be authorized for the everyday patient. Well I mean I had injections in my cap. They pulled my blood injured my calf couple years back and pulled my blood spun it and then injected back into my calf in different separate places and I think because actually helped but I know that the the stem cells from the umbilical quarter what you're talking about that or the Youth Yeah what you did pat that they they called adipose tissue or if they did it specifically with just your blood instead of polling actual cells then that's what they call platelet rich plasma which are two different things you know what we can do that at our facility in every now and then guys you do get that patient that comes along and says listen. I don't want anybody else's cells there. You know they might be like a Germaphobe have issues with receiving anything. That's not their own so in that event we can do that we can actually we would have to have that patient. Come down to the facility extract their body fat or what is called adipose tissue and typically what will extract from that guys is fifty thousand two roughly one hundred thousand stem cell then what happens is that patient now has to go back home for a few weeks because if we're treating that patient with one hundred million stem cells we need to take one hundred thousand cells that we gathered the replication process right because from a biology standpoint cells will divide and multiply over a period of time so then roughly about a month later guys come back down and then they would receive their treatment. We can also do that with bone marrow. Obviously that's a little bit more invasive and with bone marrow usually get one hundred to two hundred thousand cells but it would be the same exact a process to visits to the facility. Wow that's interesting very interesting. You know something I noticed and I don't know if you have any clue about this and I don't even know if this is a nurse's thing a lot of the videos when they were giving visas to everybody there was something some kind of writing on it the powerful healing energy you know come back or whatever it was in the honestly reminded me. We've spoken about it before the work of Moscow bureau emoto basically he would he would write things on water in the water would have a certain structure. Do you know what I mean. Is that just picking something up that almost a little bit of a metaphysical aspect of it right. I'm sorry yeah our doctors I mean I guess it's just kind of a cultural thing within you know within Colombia they believe that the cells can hear you or that you can tell the cells. Oh you know what you're looking to accomplish and you know like I had rape. Stereo junior down there and he said I wanna fly and I had a professional wrestler named Brian Cage who goes by the the nickname the machine and he wrote on his to become a real life superhero. You know so it's just kind of creating that positive mindset and the thing is is for us us guys. This is so different than anything but an athlete or that patient has ever done because this isn't a setting where you go and you're in in a hospital or medical facility twenty four hours a day for five days. It's three to four hours a day of the actual treatment when a patient goes to Columbia to receive Steve Treatment with us they get to actually enjoy vacation out of this as well and we want to always keep them in that positive mindset and keep them happy and keep them healthy you know and and I think think that's a lot to do with it guys. It's having them subconsciously. Think what is my goal. Why am I doing this treatment. What are the results that I'm looking to achieve right in. You know everyone's obviously out for something different. You know everyone's ailment or whatever for lack of better term is different and you know Rybeck was just like I just WanNa better quality of life and with those guys I mean me. I'm a professional wrestling guy or even excuse me guys like Pat. I mean that's a hard having lived a hard life man so when you get into older ages it's it sucks but this it just sounds like I mean you're you're Kevin Nash. Is there denoting just huge huge gains from it. Yeah it's crazy guys and you know and be in you kind of alluded to the fact that you are wrestling Guyana in guy you know and the reason why I specifically I'm the one that's kind of spearheading this entire project with bio accelerator. I'm the one that's talking to these athletes getting out in front of him traveling to go meet them at some event or any opportunity that I can to connect and you know the biggest thing thing that I've been promoting with both the. Ma World and with the professional wrestling world is to change the businesses for the better jeff you know I I was talking to pat a little bit about this earlier today on the phone when we were discussing for me. I've had those concussions at thirty one years old. There are things that I experienced where it sometimes it can be hard for me to control my moods or my temper or and as I get older I'm starting to see these things are becoming harder to deal with right and so what I'm very passionate about is changing the business of the UFC level or at the bell tower level what I want to change is I want to change the wrestling business at the wwe level where we can take these athletes and make it standard protocol that if a pat militant is in the ring and suffer some form of concussion the organization will offer that athlete some level of treatment with bio accelerator so that we can protect that athletes brain keep them healthy make sure that they don't have to miss a significant portion of their career due to concussion symptoms and the more importantly guys look athletic careers. Don't last forever right eventually. Absolutely we all have to hang it up what happens when I have to stop playing football or pats. GotTa Stop Fighting and we have to be regular guys and we have to be husbands and we have to be fathers so it's making sure that we can keep that athlete around and that's why with us guys were actually. We're getting ready to become the first clinic in the entire world world. That's going to be doing clinical trials of C. T. E. entreated with stem cell therapy. That's great to hear and I tell you what you know I was I won't I won't say which group it was but I was visiting some guys and hang out with them. A little bit I think it was probably about a year ago and and they took me into their Rehab facility but it it had float tanks had a yoga room. It's got you know big screen computers with guy sitting sitting in chairs doing focus drills and stuff on and concentration patterns and all kinds of stuff and and it was cool to watch and talking to the head scientists that are the NFL goes to those guys for the science on TV and see and it was interesting to hear them talk and this this would be a good a good program. Obviously where the va all of its medications wouldn't be needed and doing this for our veterans who've been blown. Uh Um Yeah and you know. It's funny that you say that because I come from a military family. I mean when I graduated high school. That was the first thing I tried to do and you know I think now in life I mean I wish I still would have the opportunity to serve but obviously I think I've found what my my calling was in terms of helping people and for me one thing that I'm passionate about and I talked to some people about this is actually figuring out a way that we can work with veterans because obviously these people sacrifice everything and then they come back and unfortunately really they're not given the help that they need an a lot of times not even anywhere close to the health need and so I just had. WBZ professional wrestler Bobby Lashley was at our facility facility two weeks ago and a lot of people know that he spent a lot of time in the army previous to his wrestling career and I've already started talking to him about how we can work with wounded Warriors Project you know how we can start kind of creating some different opportunities so that these men and women that do come back and they do have significant injury or traumatic brain brain injury or or whatever it may be that there's something that we can do to have a partnership in place to offer these men and women better level of health care and protection. I would say hey you know what would be really cool and I think be very marketable so to speak to get the attention of everybody else. especially our politicians would be bring a bunch of guys who were special forces guys who are part of you know all the different branches special forces and and I tell you what that would that would make a huge statement towards our politicians about about getting these guys taken care of instead of look. If I want my tax dollars spent on veterans I want it spent wisely and I want it spent on regeneration. Dope them up exactly exactly. I want to get better not sicker and they're dumping their stuff. Look Man I get a lot of calls messages stuff like that from I'm from veterans who are having a lot of problems physically mentally and that's yeah man green light on that big time absolutely and that's something that you you know it's there's only so much time today and and I'm one person and you know we're kind of figuring out what's the path that we're heading on. This and we're making a lot of traction. I mean I feel like like I've I've kind of gone a about things the right way and I've been fortunate enough guys to to make some amazing contacts and find a lot of people that are just just as passionate about these different movements or these different things that I am and the support that I've received from my peers in terms of wanting to open doors or introduce reduce me to people has just been incredible. I mean you know. Eric staffers our coo bio accelerator really kind of handed the keys to me back in May and here we we are in We're getting ready to go into October here. In a couple of weeks and I mean just in six months things have just night and day changed or even my job title with the company has changed itself. I it's very cool to see this all take place and I think it's GonNa continue to snowball. That's awesome and maybe so maybe there's a chance I can give you a couple of names of some good special forces friends veterans who might end up down there being great on the microphone and everything else yeah absolutely man and we would love to talk to him the beginning and I think he's really helpful for people to really realise man. I mean kind of preemptive. Healthcare is kind of taken care yourself but you know this kind of stuff is more information gets up out about this and people are becoming coming more educated in the realizing. It is within the possibility to have these kind of things you know. I'm just anxious to see how this stuff plays out and how these therapies go for all of these guys is over the long term. It's fantastic you're on the cusp of some pretty revolutionary stuff man yeah and and the cool thing guys is there. You know especially with some of these athletes and things that we work with. I do get the opportunity to see some of these individuals. You know thirty days sixty days ninety days post treatment but for me outside of just the athletes that I'm working with a very very small number of the people that I talked to on an everyday basis. I still talk to twenty to thirty everyday great. Uh in terms of you know they're interested in stem cell and I tried to do a very good job. I mean I give everybody my cell phone number. I do all my business. My cell phone not the business line because I want them to have that. Human connection that Hey David Truitt is my guy right. If I have a question I can text him. At any time I can email him. I can call him and I know that he has my the best interest of mine and that he's going to respond and he's GonNa make me comfortable or answer my question or my overcome my objection. So were our company our company. The focus is just built on a little bit of a different dynamic. We don't just say hey great. I'm GonNa Talk to you today and then pass the buck to the next person I would see that patient from the time that they reach out the BIOS elevator to the time that they go down and do treatment and even while they're at treatment is I'm posting stuff on my own personal instagram that hey my client Jeff. Smith is that right now and man. He's raving about just everything that he's seen today or the professionalism of the staff and we want to create as much awareness as possible people but I don't separate. I guess I don't separate people into categories of athlete right this person's important and then this person you're just in everyday the day guy all patients. Everybody's coming to us for one reason. Is it cool the work with the Kevin Nash or a Matt Hughes. Yes school grew up sports fan. These are guys that some of these guys were heroes to me but a lot cooler when you get to take somebody that has an MSN Parkinson's a brain injury something that's severely hindering during their life and then you get to help treat them and then a couple of months later. Another family member reaches out and goes. My uncle is seen amazing results because because of you. He told me to give you a call directly. Please help me. That's the biggest reward out of all of this because you're seeing the proof in the pudding at that point guys multi multi mouth advertising. That's I mean testimonials absolutely and that's something that you know look. We're not a company that spends a ton of money on uh on digital marketing and radio. ADS AND TV ads all of that I mean we let our work speak for itself and its due to the patients that are willing to go out and talk about their experience with us and due to some of the athletes that were working with. I mean you know the quality of our leads is drastically increased the number of lead flow that we're getting in on a daily basis of people interested as drastically increase and it just keeps getting better and better and better and ultimately guys the company keeps growing and growing and growing and and I'm very fortunate to be a part part of it. That's awesome well being smart with tourism and with medical procedures and drawing a lot of money down its way so America. Might WanNA think about it yeah exactly and we're hoping that with some of the things that we're working on pat that I feel that if I can land of these major sports organizations positions if I can get Dana White and the UFC to create a partnership with us to protect you know like a Ben Aspirin and his fight at UFC two thirty nine right. That's a guy that probably needs the Russian protocol right not to be that guy but I was there. I saw it on the floor and guys I was sitting ten rows back in my seat was right on the rail so I literally watched his team. Carry him off the floor and if you could have seen his face from my perspective there was nothing going on. I I mean it was lights out for Ben and it's unfortunate right. That's going to create some long term damage to his body that he might not see yet but it's going to be there later. I mean that was a significant McCain brain injury and if I can get a UFC on board or if I can get a wwe onboard we're talking a major American sports organization where where that's going to command attention and I think something like that can really kind of get that needle moving or get people to at least reevaluate the stance on this and if we can make even and just a little bit of improvement in the next couple years I mean that's a win. Well you know and and every American out there is tired of reading about athletes run amok doc on alcohol and drugs right just just just because to be honest with you. I just know having been a professional athlete a fighter all that sort of stuff. It's easy to fall into the into the groove of self medication. You know what I'm saying so that's that's important that these guys do get the healing for that purpose just to be able to operate correctly in society and that's the thing that's why you know for us. We're we're pushing so hard with. CTE awareness it with concussion protocol you know the number one hot topic topic item outside of the national anthem stance and the with the NFL is concussions. I mean it's something that it's affecting the sport of football all the way down to to pee wee football. Where now you know ten years ago. Even people would say yes my son's. GonNa play football now because of everything that's come out with concussions Shinzo discovery of CTE. You're a couple of years ago are now looking at it going hey. I don't know if I want my kid to do that because there's not enough out there in the community that offers that athlete or are that child enough protection so Mary passionate about yeah what you're saying those great example I mean I played football Alabama high school in the mid eighties and we dressed on our varsity team we just over about one hundred guys for home games and now when I go to the Games and Sam I mean maybe half that maybe and the other teams are having trouble even feeling an offense and defense yeah so the the I was definitely taken a hit. I don't think mixed martial arts boxing other sports have taken a hit simply because while they haven't been around as long so you haven't seen the the the damage as much for as long you know that's one of the reasons books and I think you know everybody says well. You go into it knowing when you're GONNA get concussions and I think you know most football players now. Especially you know what you're getting into and you gotTa understand your environment that you're signing up for but I think realistically guys if we can make any of the sports just a little bit safer. you know our bio accelerator ever going to be able to stop a concussion from happening absolutely not right. I mean it's always going to happen in a contact sport but can we make sure that concussion doesn't lead to a alcohol problem drug addiction fiction chronic pain you know as as the education as the technology grows on it you're able to mitigate the damage through institutions like yourself and I met it and I don't mean to put him on blasts and I don't know if he's specifically still associated with this organization but Chris Norwitzki who won the tough challenge for wwe back in the day wound up working with Organization Organization called the Sports Legacy Institute. He's the one who got Ahold of Chris Benoit's dad to be able to give his brain to the institute to find out basically the ridiculous Ezekiel trauma the protein deficiencies etc the brain of like an eighty or ninety year old man just because his particular style wrestling with head trauma so like you said David being able to link up with these organizations nations to like you said you know these guys are going to be receiving some serious damage so through the technology and linking up with organizations like yourself and you guys can help mitigate. They gave damaged significantly bringing more awareness so it's Kudos to you guys. It's it's funny that you mentioned that Jeff that you mentioned Chris Ben Wa I actually about three weeks ago in Chicago. I met his son David Ben. Wa and it's really funny that you mention this because because I just had conversations with Chris Jericho on Thursday and Chris is going to introduce me to Chris Nowinski because a lot of people may not know this but Chris Nowinski was the associate doctor that discovered cte so when we start our clinical trials on C. T. with the use expense sell I want to get Chris Linski involved in that. It's GonNa make that connection but then you mentioned Chris Benoit and it's funny I mean you just fell right into my recent. Bellamy David Vanua and I have been texting back and forth and talking to each other just over the last couple days guys and I'm GonNa be in Los Angeles on October four backstage at the twentieth anniversary of smackdown because of Cord Angle so David Benoit found that out from talking to me he's GonNa fly down own and he's actually shooting a documentary for Vice TV about his dad and concussions and traumatic brain injury. Sit Down and do some filming. You'll meet with myself to talk about what we could have done for his dad of this would have been available thirteen years ago but we're also going to shoot some footage on our ran because I am pressing to change the wrestling world and some of these businesses and in David's going to sit down and candidly talk about what this would have meant to his family how this could have been different for the wrestling world world and how if this was something that was available and it was accepted the United States ten years ago thirteen years ago. Maybe his father would still be here so I'm extremely extremely the excited for that opportunity. Wow that's cool. Well see look at me. I got the pulse and I don't even free awesome. Yeah Yeah I I met Chris two years ago. When I first I moved to Saint Louis he was at a party and I'm wrestling mark dude so I immediately marked out and I'm just starting to talk wrestling but at the time I wanted to produce a documentary and I still do call the death of wrestling not just the way how wrestling has changed throughout the years but the literal like how these guys are dying so much and some of the stuff like traumatic brain injury obviously played into it so yeah cool great man Man Crystal Wednesday. I'm glad you guys are going to link up dude because that guy I mean he like. You said he changed the game when he got a hold of Chris Benoit's brain. He'll change the game so the education's there so that education with the therapy with the technology sky's the limit man. You got epigenetics thrown in there. You got all this man. We're living in a brave new world man. There's the the possibilities are honestly endless champ. Do you have anything left for my man here before. We let him sit down. I think this was a great interview. Great Job Job Jeff and and I tell you what David thank you very much for for joining us because this was very informative I think for everybody who's going to hear it in guys just so that your audience hasn't awareness look. I mean we don't only work with athletes guys ninety nine percent of every patient that we work with as an everyday guy just it's like myself and look we treat everything from orthopedic injury. We treat spine and disc injury. You know if there's a guy out there that has bulging disc herniated disc degeneration disease. Z's spinal fusion stem cell can actually help re grow and regenerate those disc. Even if there's just minimal bisque left we treat Alzheimer's has dementia traumatic brain injury. Were treating congestive heart failure. I mean we pretty much treat everything guys with the exception of cancer so if there's anybody out there that has any interest just in learning if this is an option for them. They can reach out to me directly. They can reach out to bio accelerator. It's www dot bio accelerator ex- celebrator DOT COM. They can reach out to me. It's David Truitt Tru Itt and social media you can find me at Iowa Hawks Fan. Oh six on both facebook instagram twitter so if anybody has any questions I mean feel free to reach out to me at any time and you know we want to talk to as many people as possible and educate people on what their options are before they go under the knife before they do spinal fusions or before a doctor tells than unfortunately here in American standards. There's not anything that can be done to treat their condition. It's quite the opposite. There's options just got to explore them. Less has less becoming more ladies and gentleman less is more your twitter address again one more time twitter address is going to be Iowa Iowa Hawks Fan zero six and that is also my instagram and then you could look me up on facebook that way L. or you can just search David Truitt through it which is t argue. Itt got you now. I Will Hawk Fan. Zero six hawks with an s so much appreciated continued continued success the national director Athletic Performance Dave. Thank you brother.

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Food Truck Diaries | Colby Covington

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Food Truck Diaries | Colby Covington

"We got the most controversial welterweight on the planet happens to be a world champ to a huge trump supporter and i'm feeling grilled cheese. It's kobe come down food truck diaries. He's order. Some food in hungary grilled cheese. I like the girl that likes the good grudges. Girls want to get one in nine to five star restaurants nick. How're you doing brother. I'm assuming just your your standard grilled. Choose the way to go ladies. I the macintosh mac and rid champ artists get simple mouth. I'll do american dare america baby all the way from florida fishing canal brother shay yeah man <hes> i mean you don't mess around you. Bring the bring the whole kobe train when you when you go places man that's right like i said my interview you get off the tracks because you're gonna get ran through now. You take a lot of heat for that. I've seen from the media stuff like that. I thought was brilliant and do i support making fun of matt hughes not really but when you're fighting robbie lawler especially when you're in a fistfight to me anything goes so a was radio's funny which i down but also that that's what you do man even this just completely hostile even this. It's a little awkward for me right because off camera it. It's ah you're playing this to even heightened sense lake everything well soon as the cameras are on your heightened sense of colby l. yeah. That's what it's all about. That's what these fans pay their harder money eighty four. They're not they're not paying to see people that are going to be like all fight anybody or just. They're just boring. You know you need to create yourself. As a character is entertainment business. It's definitely payment business business and you've taken that grand with it because it's it's not natural for especially for fighters not natural for a mixed martial especially a wrestler with the rest of the background to be so oh flashing be kind of outlandish so did you take kind of like i guess a chapter book 'cause you guys are close. Just from the same area. Jail was kind of as a wrestler where he he's not a knockout artist. So this is one way to get people to tune in that world is comes from a lot of it comes from shale. You know i learned a lot of good things from him. You now and pro wrestling obviously wanna one you know the psychology of the spore been able to get into these people's heads and not just the fans but the fighters you see the way these guys come to fight me. They fight emotional national and they think they're writing this high leading up to the fight. All you know gonna kill colby. Am i got all the fans everybody supporting me but then they feel after they lose to me what it's like and on the way down after losing to me. It's the same thing that marty fake. Newsman is going to have to deal with soon same thing robbie lawler had to go through the same raphael. Does nachos had to go through the same thing day me and my had had to go through an impressive list my man and but just hearing this thing only works all of this all. This only works if you win them. You don't okay what you're doing to trump's men. Were winners. That's are some people are addicted to drugs. Some people are addicted cheating on their taxes me and the trump's were addicted to winning winning. That's our drug of course or both so you you know. Do you feel more pressure because people are tuning in mainly. I mean you have your fans but a lot of people watch you lose. It's kind of floyd mayweather approach. That's true so don't you feel like there's just adding more pressure. I feel like i'm getting a dragon energy from the trump's you know they're giving me the support and and they let me i i have the key to pretty much the united states i can do anything anywhere now by having their support and having them come giving me a talk in the locker room before the fight having the president tweeted tweeting about my fight before my fight have him call me directly after i get out of the out of the fight and then being able to go to the white house at what's a more proud moment for an american than to go to the white house hang out with the president president in the oval office. It's like it doesn't matter which side you're on. I mean this is. This is great things. You're doing as an american and that's what hypes me oh man. I like the pressure. I i do better under pressure. I'm sure if you open like i know i have hated us right have haters you haters. You know what i'm saying like so when you open open up your d._m.'s. I'm sure it's just fucking. Brutal doesn't bother you at all. Have you ever met a hater. That's doing better than you though not once our friends whatever i'm just saying but you're really good dude so it is like like let's say you hate <hes> the undertaker because he's he'll. He's playing wrestling. Whatever but you like. Some people think this is really you but when you lay your head down at night. I'm just like jesus christ man. Did i have to go this route not really meno. I enjoy it man. I mean these same. People are the same people that are in their mom's basement. They're eating cheetos but they wanna tell me how i should live my life and that's the same people that have so called journalism degrees but they never went to school for journalism and and honestly the their they had their feelings get involved in and i don't let my feelings involved. This isn't feelings businesses. The ultimate fighting championships not the ultimate feelings championships so all the people that are getting up in their feelings. You know that that's your problem man. I'm gonna do what i'm gonna do in this business and this is entertainment business. Do you do you re comments do any of that. I ain't got champ nor nor am i going to have time for that. When i got ladies there impress you know the trumpster to make happy and do all these things around in the world right now so your relationship. The trump was unexpected fan before all this started. I was always a fan. You know the way they do business. You know those guys are smart businessman and the and that's the kind of model doing. I'm trying to do business and create a good life for myself. I self you know where i don't have to fight. The rest of my life fights on forty so seeing the way they do business was like an eye opener and then see what they've done for america. The trump's honestly made america better unemployment's at all time low. You know the economy's doing better than it's ever done and i just appreciate their support men they. They took me in one of their own. They didn't have to you know all these n._b._a. Players ragging on the n._f._l. Players they're riding on the white house so i took it as an opportunity as a real american what's more american than going to the white house as a champion of america so i just i appreciate everything they've done for me. Literally take me in like their own and i can't think those guys enough so like you said they came to your locker room before the fight. This is don trump junior. Yeah donald trump junior eric trump <hes> donald trump's <hes> other son and then <hes> kimberly go forward came front row. They had their kids donald trump. Junior's kids were in attendance came in the locker room. Talk to me before the fire gave me motivation and they were like you know we love you. We know you talk a lot. They were saying they were telling area. Who wanna he talks talks a lot of smack but do you always backs it up and that's why we respect because he's a winner just like us and he backs up his talk just like they're doing. It didn't matter if fighting king kong if i was fighting godzilla no stop in front of the first family that night when i fought robbie lawler like what they say in the locker because i'm sure you know they they didn't grow up with kind of nitty gritty like wrestling styles. You did in springfield oregon so for them. I'm sure they're like oh my god he's intense now. The men the warriors man there well yeah i i think they're they're legends you know and <hes> and what they do their hard nose people you know look they didn't have to put yourself in the public eye and and go into politics. They have enough money. They're multi-billionaire. They'll never have to see see anybody again and again in their life but they put their selves in the spotlight there their risk and taking all this criticism when they could just had a happy life in the hills never had to deal with this. Those guys are tough men their fighters. They're just like they're fighting for america the find for their family and so to hear their speech before you know it just it really gave me a lot of extra motivations speech grace b.'s man just talking about being a winner talking about you know leave it all on the line for your country and you think about the people that you support the people that inspire you campaigns this runners from oregon the troops. I support the troops. People don't know that i went spent a week over a new york hanging out with the maroons hanging out with the navy going on for fleet week and spend week out of my pocket. I spent money out of my covert so on the flip side of the media right they make you out to be the sponsor but at the end of the day i might get your first. You're really good person. We have a you know. Campaigns mutual friend of ours campaigns can't say enough nice things about you you. He says <hes> you go back home to springfield oregon. Can you sit down with the kids from the the high school wrestling and spend time with them and give your time to all those kids so it's like i what you're doing it attracts the trolls roles and haters tune in which he puts money in your pocket yeah but he's your family frustrated because they know they know they know. It's all like kind of what what you have to do. In entertainment fighting they see the paychecks that are going to my bank account and they're like okay. You know you're doing it. Who cares what people think. You know. Everybody has a different opinion. So you know like who cares cares. You know you're not out here to make friends here to make money so you know at the end of the day you know these people can write about whatever they want but they're marks and you know what a mark is the journey these are supposed to be journalist but they're letting their opinions in their feelings. Get in the way of the way they're writing an article. That's not real journalist. That's not how you would do it though so you know i don't care what those people think. I'm gonna keep doing me. She it and be immediate. If people have a problem with it come see me knocked gone but there's not a man alive the stop me right now so when you do this stuff and then because you're from blue collared springfield oregon oregon where i mean it's a small fifty thousand people small man as small small camps from there and you know our people like they're your friends family too much man. That's come on yeah to be honest. I've lost a lot of friends lost some sponsors and people that don't align with trump's you know in the hate the hate the maga- maga- gimmick and and they don't understand they don't understand what i'm doing and why i'm doing it and and that's okay that that shows how fickle and to face and hypocritical they are these are the same people that she on taxes cheating on their wives but they wanna tell me about how i should go about my business and how i should conduct myself as a professional entertainer. I'm not cool with that and that's why we're not friends anymore so no i really just found out who my real friends were so you know they don't want to be friends with me for my opinion so we can agree to disagree on a lotta submersion but we can still has is yay doesn't have to be like it doesn't have to be mean argument every time just because we don't agree on someone could just talk about something else but also trump's cut the manage at trump sponsorship that we're working on it. You know you might see me an r._m._c. In the future speaking there though i got the open invitation of mar-a-lago and you know donald trump told me after i got out of the cage i wanna shake your hand again in the white and the white house so i'll be going back to the white house soon and he's like just don't don't break my hand. When you shake it kobe and i'm like mr the president come on. I felt those bricks for hand last one hundred pounds. I'm happy that he was merciful and creepy joe biden because he would knock him out lame out cold. I can't wait for that but you <hes> again. It's a lot of a lot of pressure man. It is a lot of pressure but pressure. Both thus pipes are makes diamonds so you're seeing a diamond in the rough right now being made and you know i'm. I'm not a very smart life. I'm not going out you know putting myself in vulnerable rebel situations. You know i came here. Do the show because i respect you and everybody here. Matthew shade coming up but i want to be somewhere where it's going to be a situation like i went to sports illustrated and the guys are just like all that it's a symbol. Hey i'm like okay. That's your opinion to me. It's a symbol of unity and i respect what what is he's trying to berate me in in <hes> in the interview to come on bro like we don't have to talk about it. Let's talk about my fight. Let me some real but i also think like that's short sighted. Whatever that the old school journalists we i think also a lot of whether they're journalists or they're. They're just regular people who have shows like when you come mine. I think it triggers people if they don't realize what you're doing is part of a business plan like you. There's nothing you can say that can offend me. Nothing your stuff about <hes> matt hughes. I thought was hilarious. There's nothing you're gonna that could possibly crossed the line for me because i know you're doing this to put money in the bank for you and your family family so that's your act but there's certain people like we went on with me should take i think a lot of times the way you conduct yourself for some people at triggers them so when you come on their hostile and things just make sense. Does it make any sense because i was mad at fucking hulk hogan. You know what i'm saying like he mad especially because i'm bringing a lot of facts and truth. You know the measham thing. She's mad at me for for saint facts and truth but she's talking shit about me saying oh you're a disgrace to western martial arts arts you know when she's a show for tari one a._f._c. but she wants to hate on me for being controversy in this. How did you make your career media. You made your career being controversial with rhonda talking shit to rhonda and you're on the losing end of getting your ass what by ronda rousey but but you won't talk shit about me sound controversy and sulphites i think trigon for them as true yeah it is they don't know what to do. They mark out and they they don't know how to hold their feelings inside. They let their emotions get the best of them when they should just think clearly be smart about it yeah. They really should let speed you. Some fucking garage american grilled cheese in american she sandwich do now. I am on akito diet. I haven't cheated yet so i'm just cheese out. The metal. Don't judge me did please don't judgment never joe thanks dude. I knew you'd be cool with it. I talked to one of the guys you train with you trained with and he's from your same hometown campaigns ultra marathon runner when the best americans on the planet such a bad ass meet him. We're talking this morning. I said <hes> you know they would like what makes kobe like. Here's i'll tell you this. This is why we're from a blue collar city blue collar town. Here's less than fifty thousand people ios kobe's work ethic like what he does entertainment. That's his thing we don't really care about his work ethic the way kentucky himself the way he you you know his relentless pursue of being a world champion is what all of us that's why all this support colby and he said <hes> he's told me a story that guys rump this mountain and he said he doesn't think there's what that he knows. He doesn't think there's one other u._f._c. fighter who could finish this run that he does so he says you and him go up there your down and he said like it wasn't an issue for you really either which is insane 'cause if you don't who campaigns is looked up. He's ultra. Marathon runner runs like three hundred miles a day. A nine to five comeback runs again. He's just he's insane. I call them the kanye west of hunting his own shoes and shit. It's crazy yeah. He's the best of the best. It's an ultra. He's got a saying you know. Keep hammering and ever since. I heard that saying you know it's really inspired me. Just keep hammering doesn't matter what's going on in your life you it doesn't matter nobody cares work harder and to see his work ethic and him saying those things about me that that really like gives me goosebumps down my spine. You know because that guy at the end of that runway we run this four mile run up this mountain straight up hill four miles we get down. I'm exhausted. I'm tired. I'm ready to eat and he's like okay. I'm going to go do another lap up the who and then i'm going to go back to work and then let's get a pump later tonight at the gym. I was like dang cam and you don't ever stop. It's nuts and it's like man. I'm i'm the hardest worker yeah no one's ever at work me but being next cam. That's one guy in the whole entire world that i will say. I works men. He it's an honor and privilege known as a friend and be able to learn and be n._b._a. Expired inspired by how did you guys get connected. We got connected through high school wrestling friend of mine a guy named tyler ever all and and we got connected probably four or five years ago and and and every time i'm in oregon. I always go back home to work out with him. Either in the gym we get a lifting or or go run the mountain but that guy's someone truly look up to and he's probably one of the only guys i really idolize in this world today and i've seen anyone who's getting ready to fight you dude. I'd hire my own ultra marathon runner because if you're running at that pace with that cardio obviously cardio probably your biggest asset your mindset that just your will to kind of break guys with your the a._c. Set i don't know why more guys aren't working with guys campaigns the campaign's option. I can work with anybody else but there's other guys that kim haines. I'll definitely get on that ball most guys friends. They're you know they're in the club. They're out partying. You know i i got a super athlete friend campaigns who who doesn't like to do those kind of things he wants to go to the mountain it and put working. He wants to push that mind. He's a living embodiment of how far the human spirit can push itself like people. Don't realize that obviously your mind's going to give up before your body does so the to the fact that he's mastered that and to learn those skills like having him as a friend and i i really look at them as a coach and a training partner as well so i i feed off him and i learned a lot of things from and that's why that separates me me from anybody else in the u._f._c. as far as cardio those you've always had cardio like this at oregon state wrestling as a kid high high school. Where's this come from. If you're me wrestler most wrestlers i have good cardio. It's just what you guys do within the pace. The page put on robbie. Lawler was not smith yeah. <hes> you know they a lot of people like to call it. Porn star cardio and you know i i do a lot of work in the bedroom really builds up that cardio so i so i can live ten rounds in the octagon but you know i've always had that good cardio but i built it up obviously the cam. He helped me on the mountains he helped me you know everyday work ethic and discipline sacrifice and that's why i am here today and why no one can stop that cardio while i'm melting guys. You're literally breaking guys like i think i we were watching <hes>. Where was i i was in nashville shows in nashville and your flight was on earlier. I was watching in my friends. A casual fan and i got to see the main event man's right below kobe. Gotta watch this and he's watching. He's like this guy is just going to do this the whole fighter yeah. It's amazing he. He takes these guys. He breaks keeps taking him down breaks a real. It's amazing to watch. He's like a knock him out like near to me so much better than knockout because he's taking these world class guys and he's breaking breaking with pace. If you know what you're watching insane to watch but rob law is not really a guy that breaks like that for you to come up with a game plan land and i'm sure you guys together eighteen because he was there for a while so and they know how strong mentally robbie lawler is. I felt in the fight. That rob is waiting for you to get tired. You can see he was just waiting to explode second round. He's tied third all right. Let's do fourth-round dude and then it just you just kept coming so he could never really get it off that big shot and what people don't realize what i did to robbie lawler like there's no fluke about that you can land that fluke five second knockout or you can land a fluke overhand punch punch. People could always say hey. You got lucky with one punch. You cannot say i got lucky i completely dominated from start to finish you know most strikes ever in a u._f._c. fight five hundred thirty three three strikes thrown and landed and and that's the most that's another history and the record books i'm breaking so people can say whatever they want about me but my pace like i said a patient nobody can keep above with campaign sets his face in his marathons. People can't hang with that pace and they find out they don't find out until it gets on. They say all these things all. He ain't shit he's he's just a talker this and that but then when they get not on the field that pace then they know what it's like and they break and you can see it on their faces. There is a guy with good cardio. Whatever put kamara usa does have good cardio. Yes both have wrestling backgrounds. You guys have similar styles right. Is that fair to say. Neither one of you take a step back. Both you guys is both pressure. You break people like what gimme this gimme kamara did to woodley was insane. You know d. two scott the woodley's these amazing. He did it to a woodley that passes time a woodley's. That's in doing rap albums about me a woodley. That's on a woodley. That's analyst for the u._s. Doesn't even trade anymore brennan. He's cashed out tyron. Woodley is not the same tyron woodley from five years ago this is this is a different tyron woodley so i don't see anything impressive in that win over would that he has and let's look at his fights before that he took my sloppy seconds. After i absolutely decimated destroyed day my left him in a pool of his own blood in sao paulo in brazil hometown filthy animals don't dump and he has to go up and take my sloppy seconds and then he goes after another sloppy be seconds ralphie dose nachos the guy that was supposed to be the face of brazilian m._m._a. was going to say brazil from colby covington the king of brazil what happened again. I left him menopause zone blood in the united center and then what what is camera who's been does he comes. It takes my sloppy seconds again guys that were left for dead. He came and picked up the carcasses off. My my dead bodies that i left don't but don't you think like that's obviously the fight. There's no other fight to make like this the fight to make because you gotta unify your bell. Yes have to me similar styles else not that you would care but the odds makers have tomorrow favored. That doesn't mean anything. Oddsmakers are internet basement nerds you know they don't no no they don't know anything. They never been in a fight in their in their life. So who were they who were they to dresden lines and but let's be honest what about when mardi fake newsman fought woodley and he he was in a wheelchair after the fight you remember that he was getting pushed around by ali abdullah sleaze in in the wheelchair. Yeah what was he jumping. Four foot barrier in the poems buffet line the next stay eight hours later trying to get my phone my face cool be doing right now. I'm like no. We're going to set listen often on. We're gonna do it like real professionals and then now. He's nowhere to be heard of anytime. My name comes was up marty fake. Newsman won't say anything about my name. He's duck and he's saying this hernia bro. Hernia takes four weeks. You've been out for seven months. Where's all that energy now. Oh i thought we lived twenty miles apart he he used to do anything to attach my name his name to stay relevant because the only time he's ever got hype in his career is when he talks about videos about me when he puts a tweet about me so so. Why won't you find me now yeah. We need to unify these belts. I'm gonna show the world the world on the real world champion. I'm america's champion. I'm the people's champion. I'm donald trumps favorite fighter but when will oh he signed the contract brennan you tell me when when he has to fight the u._f._c. wants us to november second and madison square garden so we're going to find out he's a coward and if he steps up to the plate or you know he gets off the tracks. There's one or two options you either get on the track. Your getting ran through camera or you. Just stay off the tracks like you did early in your career and i'll just keep passing by and you. You think you're gonna do the same thing you've been doing. All the guys just cardio press them break them. I don't think i know he's not stopping my pace. He's a d to wrestling scrub his wrestling. He's not on my level. Hey striking is amateur at best. I'm going to make him look like an amateur on that night and i promise you that he's going to be in a pool of his own blood. He's getting carted away in the octagon on a stretcher right right in front of the first family and the donald trump. I'm sure the don welby don donald you will be there because newark backyard. New york's is backyard the trump tower right down the street and most likely most likely let me ask you this. Do you ever have to have security yeah. I always have security thirty you know and just like at the last fight you know there was like probably twenty thirty secret service in the building. You know making sure they're washing over me and the first family so what about when you're in brazil we call him filthy. The animals was dan lambert dude. Are you doing brazil. I watch my ps and qs for villas giving kids like shoes and equipment so they went kill me right. No it was very scary. 'cause you know all the death threats. They couldn't even bring me to the press conference because they were like there was a bunch of people outside with guns ready to shoot me and then they had the secret service in brazil. Take me to the airport all the way to play. Put me on the plane. I mean glasses hat like in disguise and they flew me out that night when i was supposed to leave a couple of days is exhausting coke. You know what i'm saying. Do you thrive off of it you like that. I love it coach izzo. Were they like dude. What are we doing. My law some coaches because that really yeah. I don't want to say names but coaches know american coaches. They just didn't want to be putting the spotlight a lot. They don't want people to hate them. They want to be known as like a good coach. It's a lot because now they have that pressure of all your your coaching the bad guy you're the piece of shit you know this whole beating man. I know you find out you know the true colors. You know they're not supporting affording me for what i'm doing. I'm trying to do promotion. I'm trying to fight. I talk a lot but do i always walked my talk. I do. I talk the talk. Walk the walk. I talk a lot but what am doing brennan. When i'm doing talking i'm selling fights in your winning and winning in promoting these fights so people have a problem with that at the end of the day. We're gonna get locked in a steel cage in my underwear so so what's the problem about me saying a couple mean words on the person you love and more on my man well. I hope you guys fight november against enough for coming here. Brother wanted man the best the best we come to everybody.

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Episode 149: Rogan Issue Addressed | RECAP UFC 242 | Cowboy vs Gaethje

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Episode 149: Rogan Issue Addressed | RECAP UFC 242 | Cowboy vs Gaethje

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Oh great like Bud light or something like that to be way cooler if you're a raging alcoholic but you're really good at your job you know but you're raging alcoholic. Drink like I remember. I told you every day a a beer to want to get home. Re Right. That's that's before like before dinner and going to sleep a beer and then you feel a little loose eat. Kick your feet up nice cold hold Bruschi. There's nothing like a cold Bruschi in the summer man. Yeah God it's nice and I baron hot second keyed up. Here is not Kito Sour Beers not too. You bet like less carbs. I don't know if I can have the rolling rocks right. There's like those carb low very very lar-. They UH isn't Michelob light oser terrible. You might as well be drinking gold or something. I don't know yeah or duels got just give it up for God's Sakes Yeah Man. I <hes> beers off the market for me veers off the market. I do miss it. When it's really hot out a nice cold beer God dang that sounds Nice Freshman fresh. Now I just whiskey on the rocks man to straight up with young rock like a grown ass. Men finally got a drink. Count Ice talked with what age I'm going to have a drink. Then rather drink was Campari for a little bit those weird which I was told in how sugar in it it but I don't know I still I'm still not sure if competitive sugar in it and then all of a sudden <hes> as doing a set I don't know I don't know how how long ago Ragas Hey do. Shot with me my God. I don't like to smoke drink settings like I always do it. Just takes the edge off. I'm like he has been doing comedy for thirty five years years. This guy knows what he's doing. He's one of the best to ever do it so let me do a shot with them. Do a shot on the best sets of my life and I'm like well. I keep keep doing this guy. Keep trend going went from one shot. That's the thing just don't keep increasing. Even keep it just one shot now. It's a double now. It's a double before every set. Yeah three sets a night. We don't says ler not a good way now. I'm usually fine man. I it's usually one double and then I'm good so if you see me doing stand up. I'm drinking one double. Have you thought about getting the whiskey business. I haven't proper shop opt-in. Now I have now you mentioned it though Buffalo Trace. Let's figure some out here Bro. That's a great idea Daniel. That's a great idea. I'll tell you what's not a good idea. There's something going to segue into. What's not a great idea is to quote anything I say off a a number of the three shows that I do between below the belt for showtime finding the Kid Brian The kid coun or especially king and the staying with fellow comedian and and very close friend of mine field on <hes> to quote anything or to cut anything that I say out of Kingston which is a pure comedy entertainment. Ch- I'd say show it's even hard to call the podcast the way that thing is produced it is basically a TV show a high function TV show put on Youtube two for told you guys. How much thing is to make it blow your mind? That's what that thing is. That is Theo von a one of the greatest comics in the world and my dumb ass is trying to outdo each other and the way it works. You haven't listened to it if you've just seen a headline that I'm going to address right now which I can't believe I'm addressing this but it has to be done because it's affected a close friend of mine so the way that show works is fans submit videos that show is generated and created four four fans and is made possible by fans so there's like rip my drip people send in <hes> p pictures of them wearing clothes or flop my aunt it's out or babysitters or MOMS of and we talk about what they look like or there's relationship advice and this brings me to this next <hes> <hes> kind of Segue to even addressing any of this on last week's podcast on king this thing with a gentleman who was losing his hair Senton to relationship advice as I'm losing my here man. I'm worried about shaving my head. I'm worried I'm not gonNA get chicks anymore. My dumb ass. I say a lot of done things and I take credit for it and I own it man but the when I have a problem with is when it affects very close friends like Joe Rogan who has to deal with some sort of media frenzy now because because they misquoted me when I say misquoted me. I assume everyone knows the context. I'm talking about 'cause I'm talking to my very good friend. Theo von we both know Joe Rogan. I live in that context. I'm Amora. There's million that that that should show. This isn't a bragging as one of the biggest park in the world. There's a ton of people watching not everyone knows my relationship ship with Joe. Not everyone assumes my sheep Dana Wider Theo. I have no idea when we're in the context of that show. I'm in this. Little students mean Theo talking. I gotTa do better. I been doing podcasts way too long to let something like this effect so this gentleman who's losing this here goes hey man. I'm losing my hair. And where am I going to get chicks the something to the African his exact comet shut to that guy <hes>. I forget his exact tom in general it was. I'm losing my hair. What should I do and I go man. Dan Don't worry about losing your here. I know guys who are killing the game who are Slang in Dick now. If you just say Slang in Dick in this this is the way people took it which I looking at the clip. I get high takeaway saying Dick Means fucking girl sleep with many women. That's not what I meant by by adult but I can get how you get to that conclusion. When you just watch the Clip my context saints slinging Dick what I meant by that and this may correct it now so so there's no miscommunication. There's no blurred lines. I did not mean Joe. Rogan is cheating on his wife Joe Rogan's when my closest dearest friends ends. I wish everyone had a friend like Joe Rogan. I talked them damn near every day. Even I would never never ever do anything anything to to bring any sort of harm his way or hate or attention especially on his wife. His wife and my wife are friends friends. That is ridiculous and that's on me. That's on me. I gotTa do better or not talking about my personal friends like that back to this. When I say guys slanging Dick what I met is Joe and I referenced three guys. If I haven't seen the clip along since last week three guys Joe Rogan Ball Guy Sign you dick crushing it one of the best comics in the world biggest podcasts and we're biggest show we talk about just shows you went to Howard Stern. He Ain't shit compared Peta Joe Rogan. You want to talk about any show watch on TV. It ain't shit compared to Joe Rogan that slang addict. That's killing the Game Dana White another successful ball dude food who is Slang and Dick Aka killing the game not meaning he is sleeping with many women slaying and Dick could be sunny dictate. Your wife could be just in general kickin ass. That's that's on me. Slinging Dick to ninety nine point nine percent of the people outside. My circle of friend means fucking other girls cheating on your wives my bat now what I meant now what I meant it. All and listen join the very close friend very very close friend. Do you think I'm that stupid. Let's say he was you know it. I would do it. I would announce to the world like that to millions of people. Give me a little. I know I'm a dumb asking me a little more credit than that. Give me a little more credit than that. I was trying to be funny. I fucked up when he goes to Dana White. I don't mean Dana haven't spoken years. I I I don't I don't know him. I don't want to know him. We're not friends. I have no idea what he doesn't off time. He might live in Dubai with seven wise for all. I know I have no idea what he's doing again. That goes back to my point of guys who are bald crushing it. I see him as far as a business crushing it sold for billion dollars worth four hundred doing doing his thing jet-setting jet-setting telling it my other example was Jeff Bezos. WHO's one of the richest men in the world. Here's the problem with Jeff Bezos when he say Slang and Dick with Jeff Bezos. He did just get a divorce I. He cheated on his wife. So that's a bad example. The example should have been not saying Dick. Hey Dude you're going ball. Don't worry about not not getting chicks. I know guys who are killing it in life and if you kill in life it usually attracts the other sex manner woman when you're being successful that usually attracts people. That's why I met the three most successful ball guys. I Know Jeff Betas being the most host rich Dana White Joe Rogan. That was the example. I knew at address this when I saw on Worldstar. It's so silly to me and I hate that. I have to do this but when it you know it it it gets to my friend Joe Rogan. He's like I I had had no idea <hes> I tell you. I don't breathe comments. I really don't see a ton of stuff out there. <hes> I have people deal with a lot of stuff from me when it re in regards Social Media Media Youtube I I've never seen a comment. I've never seen I don't look at numbers. Look at any of that stuff. I have people that do that. <hes> I get news on there so this brought to my attention when it hit Worldstar and my brother goes dude. Check this bullshit out like Oh my God and then he gets to roll again we talk about like. Oh this is this is ridiculous. That's not what I meant at all <hes>. I'm a dumb ass. I see a lot of stupid things to get quoted from. Tim Stink podcasts with Theo von would be the last thing I would assume but here we are so <hes> not what I meant in the least bit is a fun click bait for everybody eighty but man. You're barking up the wrong tree. Tell you that right now barking up the wrong Goddamn Trie right. We good great grand. Let's move on over the weekend. Would you do Jin. I did a lot actually this week really. Oh Wow us like God what did I. What did you do man start off with. My little cousin. Got Me up the all sport past the twenty four hour fitness. Oh yeah so I saw your insecure story review working out that angle. I know you look seven hundred pounds. I felt weird recording like this is just kind of like the angels brother you look. You look like you know what I'm saying. Andre the giant that we hug I to be honest with myself. Though are the best angle for me to be like all right. Dude you gotTa Start Losing Weight No way shape. That ain't fucking Shrek. Actually here's take notes from hot chicks. You've seen the girl taking on like this. They do like this. Why do you think that they they know their game. No cool so I just did like after you're what three four years of not going to the gym. You're back in back every single day why I just felt like getting back in shape talk about all the time Brian Talks about our just life yeah and I was gonNA post everyday but then it'll be Kinda lame so I was just like all right. The first three days away cut challenge me. We'll make a conscious out of it. It's win all day but yeah if you post every day that keeps you accountable to like. That's why I do 'cause I have a lot of people do love. The Kito stuff of we post was working out in somebody. I'd die job. We get you work out. You know so I do. I do it because it holds me accountable shore because if you don't see me posted I ain't working so now oh okay I do it to me. Hey let's go because there's a lot of people who are doing the same thing you know you. David Goggin you'll get the rock. We seem. I'm working like a fun like inspires people. It's not for them as for you really is man for me. It's for them. What would you way announced if you don't mind me. I'm not too big. It's just my muscles are all gone. That's the biggest thing which sucks skinny factor but I realize one <hes> one ninety seven two hundred and and you WanNa get to you you just want want to give up here but then I'll obviously dropped the fat Tam Yelling Been Lean before. I know how to get lenient. I just put muscle especially at the Ripe Bold Age forty two true your high. That's not that big. No ten pounds more the fighter in the what else did you start working out. I'm good yeah actually the one thing I realized because I went an hour and forty minutes. It's the first day to on the treadmill too but I do like a listen to a song and then run and then another song and I'll just you know fast walk back and forth knife but I didn't realized I got blisters all jacked up but I doubt initial ten men right now. He's gotTa keep going then. Finally I feel good. Ah We've we've all done this yet. A knock the dust off brother. Here's the other thing going to the gym Lonzo ladies. I'd imagine the would you have downtown. La Fitness it is it is weird. What time did you go to in the more like psycho hours. They don't even open that late which sucks the twenty four hours. They're they're never. They're never like always twenty four hours right. They make sense twenty four hour. No some of them close at nine PM on Sundays to six months under lying. They're lazy. Maybe yeah I don't know I don't know so know ladies that eventually you're GonNa be some ladies though there's a lot of dudes okay. I'm just saying maybe it's that time that it was a Sunday today. I went Friday Saturday and Sunday so there's a lot of and there there are a lot of Gay Dude Sergio poll. You kinda pulled from good good pool there well. Let's see what let's stick with it and see what happens. It's always one time he comes in. You know there's always that one who your banking on being there to give the testosterone ups and get hit those squats. It's the right way. You feel me. What else did you <hes> take my other cousin out for dinner for her birthday. How thirty three I am thirty three ish. Would you cream by review. We did Ekran delicious. Q. Is Good busy week in twos. I don't know there's more but I just I can't think of it right now. Forget it. I write notes down like I do. I write some notes down. I went to it too. I'm a huge I grew up a huge huge at Finn. I remember <hes> I think he was fourth or fifth grade. I started reading the Book Not Thick One and and I brought for show and tell my teacher was disgusted with me. <hes> Ozzy didn't finish in fourth and fifth grade but I'd like try to do it. I like flip through and so so thick <hes> I got used at a bookstore my daddy stay still bookstores. When I was a kid. It was a used bookstore. I picked that one out. Why my dad let me get that in fourth grade? I have no idea even the cover was scary. <hes> and then I'll see the movie came out not even double disc double. VHS One into do <hes> so. I've been a huge advantage. All the first remake of it opening night saw this one the opening night. It's a damn good movie Man Manna specially for let the hype. There's a lot of hype around it and the second one. There's there's a lot of hype. Maybe not as much hype as the first one but it's really really well done on <hes>. There's some moments where maybe jump <hes> off seats in this in the spoiler it so some kids die now have kids man manage. It really turns me off. It really just shuts me down. It's I don't know it just makes me feel fucking terrible <hes> but I'll see it's a clown so I get over. It and that's not unreal. Is it Brendan so he can enjoy it. <hes> the ending. I will say this is no spoiler seinfield about dinning remember the NFL NFL the first one rather than in the first. Why like why would you do that. That's I felt in this one. Why got it's better than the original ending foreshore original ending where the thrown rock that that giant spider terrible right. It's like that but if they made it into nineteen. It's just like that so <hes> a bit different. There's a spin on it. It's good but I I don't know it definitely me like I didn't leave going. I'll tell yeah that's definitely well thought out ending the castings amazing though the whole squad is so goddamn good. It's so good quality movie definitely worth seeing man. I've heard Bill Hader crushes a hater hater so good in it he so get in it haters damn good and then <hes> Jessica chastain staining damn. She's good. It's raining street with their titties out. She's a have you seen outlaw with Tom. Hardy and Shiloh buff. Oh Oh no no no not outlaw or lawless lawless yes yes I have boy in Ossetia. You guys if you don't know from lawless or <hes> it to you would know her from <hes> zero dark thirty. She is such a good actress. My Lord she had dime piece lawless Klatt. I mean that's such a great movie great film <hes>. This how weird I am when I was getting judged is <hes> I drove. Dua ceelo drive where the Sharon tate murders happened. I had time I switched gone. <HES> <HES> onstage at ten and I came in shows running over your enterprise can be onto like eleven thirty and I'm driving through Rustic Canyon <hes> which is close to the shanty murders of Ceelo drive pretty close like six minute detour and I I bought I'm balls deepen that chaos book of Charles Manson the CIA and they talk about and they paint this diff- a little bit of different narrative and <hes> let me just look at the address and it literally rows drives at four four minutes. I'm like my God to see what it is. I drive up there and you know I've read helter skelter now halfway through chaos of seeing all the dog you got your frigging bachelor's degree in Charles Manson. I I just wanted to stop by I. I thought it my weird my weird. I just WanNa stop buying just this. It's such a historical dark kind of place. I don't know it's like stopping at Wrigley Field. What if you're baseball fan if you're if you're Syra killer fan at your lambofield I guess as terrible reference that is and as I'm getting there. I'm I'm I'm pulling in. It's not well lit. It's dark and I I mean I stayed out. Here has a thirty six year old grown man with some fighting feels. Iowa's scared man. I'll pull up and it's super darkening go through this narrow valley <hes> to get to the house and the original housing there. It's knocked down but if the else's they're like where Tex Watson and the three girls parked the car to walk up to get the house. That's where I that's where I stopped and then because I I can go through all the kind of stuff that happened and I just close my eyes and I think of all like <hes> you know the different scenarios in what Sharon Tate and her husband would do there and the parties in I don't know man I find it very interesting but then I found myself self going what's wrong with you. Dude what the fuck is wrong with you man yeah they. They shot that poor young kid <hes> right on that driveway. They're he was like selling knives or some shit freeways doing but he's just there by accident basically and just a victim yet let plant species house who is a chapter in that chaos book called a live freaky die freaky. They explain all the parties and all sorts. It's kind of rituals and <hes> crazy shit do that. CEELO house so I just sit and I just I picture. I try to picture all all that man because I'm there the murder I don't picture the murders I know I don't picture the murders at all. I actually haven't seen the Sharon Sharon tate murder pictures. I'm not doc of a creep. I'll sit there and I think just I don't know man I think if the early I think the sixties and I think of all that stuff I sit there and soak it in might be weird. I don't know a drove to the Improv after that and had a late set. There and dirk was like Derek in the sun and Rogan where they're like where the fuck lucky band. I was like what I I definitely lying. I stupid I I stopped off at the the CEELO Dr House NYC the white. Mike Sharon Tate's old house like Sharon Tate Charles Manson murders and they're like the fuck is wrong with you know like yeah no doubt anyway so I felt like an asshole yeah. I don't know it's just interesting man. Do you have a hard time <hes> switching making that switch because like obviously a very serious serious subject matter and then you go to perform comedy like it seems like a very interesting mental switch. You know what's interesting is that night. There was a ton of people there and if you do like you're set set that you do like say from your our set. It doesn't work those. It's like they'll watch it but it just don't get the same vibe so I open up and I just kind of go. GimMe Gimme subjects some thriving and someone yelled Charles Manson perfect and so I just rift on that on how how I get it I get it yeah. I'll see being silly but <hes> yeah. It was perfect very strange. Yeah you're right. I probably shouldn't be doing that before I do. Try to be silly stage. I don't know man I duNNo. I what I what I find interesting and so that's the other thing is I leave their so heartbroken on Sharon tate just such I mean beautiful lady but you're talking about a baby that was killed as well. The you know <hes> just just all the stuff that went at such what a shame not only is it a shame Charles Manson. Obviously evil person deserved a rotten prison and die but the people that he that he influenced in those young every so not only did all the people I five people were murdered in their loser loser lives but then Tex Watson did who's a terrible person and then those three girls who are nineteen twenty one twenty two all all those. It's all the whole thing is a disaster meant. The whole fucking thing is a disaster fascinating it yeah I I I mean it's the most infamous murder in American history data the back Dalia which can drive to due to the black ones crazy man you looked at that. I saw the movie I haven't seen the movie. I read book on. I've never seen seeing the movie I have seen. The pictures of that that is that is crazy. Tom Lady that was caught up with precision had head body arms and also <hes> she was cut in the midsection the way she was cutting the mid-session was done by an expert who knows exactly how to navigate gate through it crazy this term solve that one <hes> Zia picture there I won't go to be it's crazy just out. You know it's yeah right. Let's GET RID OF FUCK in serial zero killers <hes> yeah. I don't know I'm into that stuff but apparently a lot of people are upset me a podcast watch on the Atlantic murders because I'm I'm done with <hes> minehunter to the that sees the shows you can go on for six or eight seasons one hundred percent fifty in the Ted Bundy Dahmer a ton of people have retry listening to serial <hes> Cereal Orchestra Kona. I think her name is a serial where she like. She did like the <hes> the <hes> there's a murder of a about some. Crean girl and Oh the towers of La the water tower no no no that one was a weird so creep. If you watch youtube videos no not you're GONNA get nightmares for sure seen the youtube videos. I really get nightmares but I think especially. I feel like I get a free pass. Once we get around September October once Halloween creeps in then I really get into it. You don't get freaked out by the video <hes> it's it's weird. I don't have I don't I don't know how to explain it. I get chills every time I watch. It's crazy but it's fascinating to me yeah. How does she end up in the water tanks. Who knows I so crazy. It's so strange I let's move on for killers though <hes> finally football's here man and guess what your boys back betting is well. I'm back betting with mybookie. Yes they do work with me but <hes> I used to bet a lot me. My brother used to bet a ton and I went five for six yesterday. The only that I lost is the impulse Bat Tampa Bay San Francisco Tampa Bay so terrible forget how bad they are but I thought maybe they're going to be like my underdog. The year dim bet on my Brown's dinner bet on my browns because I don't know I I was worried. Listen at this level whenever there's that much hype and they haven't jelled in there's there's no chemistry but there's that much hype random I. It's always a little tricky especially we week one. We don't know who's who yet you know what I'm saying like. We know the Patriots GonNa be good. You know certain achieves the rams. I saw right now. There's teams are like yeah but when there's a question mark I don't put money on them and I told my brother I went if anything I would bet on the other team <hes> to I think they're like plus six. I'll take the plus plus six another team just because the NFL when you kind of challenge these professional football players when you say hey that's the team. They're that good. Did it pisses him off so you give them a reason to play the usually show the fuck up. I stayed away from it but everything even though I'm a browns fan I was going to bet against them. Dan Because I'm not that terrible the person <hes> but I took <hes> I took <hes> patriots. These bet of all time actually made all the money that I made that day but all of the Patriots how scary the Patriots hold up. How scary are the motherfucking New England Patriots 'cause you watch them like Oh my God they're good and then someone goes. You know that in the fuck is everyone going to do. What are you GonNa do you. GonNa stop them almost seems unfair. We'll do the Golden State Day warriors now of the NFL and but that's predicate on if a B doesn't come in with drama in there which I don't know now. I know everyone on. Ab and I can see how you do and I guess he hired social media guys like influencers to help them get out of like create chaos. It was making all these videos that he's posted to youtube in his social media that are definitely. I highly edited yeah like he hired a team to help them like expedite the process together the raiders which is crazy but then you know raising the Suck Dick. Let's be real kids me getting like two three years but he goes from there to the Patriots. I was watching last night dude. I don't are they. GonNa go undefeated insane. It's insane sane. Bell checks an evil genius and they have somehow. Oh He's great at just taking these crazy players that are crazy and then just like tapping them down. Here's the thing I don't think they've ever had a guy like Antonio Brown. There's crazy and and then there's toxic and he's been talked everywhere he goes. I think it's funny. I told your ass man. It ain't us it's more focus on nightmare the raiders Jon Gruden. They tried to stick up from like he's a nightmare pay. The thing about the Patriots is they're. GonNa have zero zero kind kind of wiggle room with him because they don't need them. They're going to they're going to the super bowl no matter what they do not need him the only thing he do fuck things up like you do if you if you play ball yeah be great to have you if not get the fuck out. I saw there's a bed. Is He. GonNa make it through the season. I bet he does crazy. See Tom Brady offered him his house. Was I do you come. Stay with me and my wife and kids I to me you know I think. AB needs is love sweet beat. These haters men. Give Him some love. Give give him some love men <HES> and the tonight as big as the Browns Fan. I am don't get twisted on from Denver grew up fucking bleeding orange and blue broncos army team <hes> I think they'll beat the shit out of the raiders tonight. They never beat the Shit on. It's always close up the rivalry game. It's in Oakland <hes> but I just think Oakland's kind of I don't know man. They don't have a lot of answers. Don't have a lot of weapons. <hes> I love Gruden but I I just it's just GonNa be tough man. I I like the defense of the Broncos. I I also think <hes> I think they can do the damn thing so I took the Broncos <hes> an I parlayed it with the saints. It's it down point so it's basically the saints are like my. I got a minus three and the broncos are like minus point. Five space-age need them to win. Do you fancy. I don't play I can't get into fantasy. I know people love it and I just cannot to me. Fancies exhausting trying to keep up like the bats. I've three teams on check in and I got it. You know and I can manage that but with fancy. There's a lot that goes into it. You're drafting. It's too much. It's too much espy's e. I need money right away. Then I get a certain point I take that money out. I leave that my balance in I keep betting bedding and what's that goes way that I'm out but last night was good. We'll see tonight Monday night football. I love Monday night football. You Got <hes> Saints Verse Houston. That's get as game and they got broncos raiders so we shall see with the browns though and <hes> it's strange people give Michelle for <hes> e. Yeah a lot of hype man. It's week one though don't throw them off under the bus yet. It's week one they. They got a gel as a team S. chemistry. They're gonNA have an issue though when in that division one hundred percent but also remember two years ago they were one in fucking sixteen so forest goal. They're going super bowl offside joker. That's insane man and again. There's no chemistry what makes the pages so. Goddamn good is the chemistry. Everyone buys in right now now with the browns. No one's really buying in yet. They thought Oh you got Odell. We Got Landry. We got fucking. Chop the running back. We got all this going on right. We're we're uh-huh Bakers. A baller were goodman. It doesn't really work like that. He has got a lot to work on. Here's the biggest red flag is how many no pun tent how many penalties they had how many flags they got think eighteen or twenty two or some shit like that so a you're on discipline be. You're not Joan as a team if can take them a while to get going but I'd rather I'll have it now than later. <hes> I still think they go at least nine and seven gotta be on US Ninety. Seven I really do Pittsburgh looked awful. Pitcher didn't look good. They beat the steelers. <hes> we'll see man but <hes> you know good. At least they did bad now and get some of these fucking bandwagon fans off the the bus. I'm a bandwagon for sure but I'm saying on the bus. I started. Mayfield the Maya fantasy team tough day tough day and I sat Lamar Jackson. Really Tough Day goes Lamar Jack. He's scored comet to he was not bad for running back right. 'cause they're like you're not a quarterback and he's a Guy Cooman God. He was a baller such a baller. I'm glad football stare though in college football good Lord. It's fucking great to buy. I see you bob beat Nebraska Baby. The huskers third zero kicker got it done but Baba Australian posted about that gentleman thirtieth Fox just doing the damn thing partying with the kids praise kids at home just doing the damn thing buff slick all right not a top ten team when you look at the other top ten teams but good to know. I'll take it man to game. I'm glad football's back <hes> did fight companion on Saturday with <hes> Eddie Bravo Brian Count who came just for the main event because shooting speaking a shooting there won't be a fire Kidde <hes> Monday or Wednesday. They were doing on Thursday because Brian. Shooting is Bryant acting schedule so just giving you get the heads up. There will be at least one this week. We Never Miss Nisa Week. Come on baby come on baby <hes> but yeah the fighting man was fun during a bunch of Whiskey with my buddies and then watched a <hes> a good card a solid card <hes> the most entertaining fight by far was Paul filled servers. It's Embar Boza <hes> Jesus Christ. That philly boy filter builder looked fantastic. <hes> it's interesting sewing gave it twenty seven thirty thirty twenty seven the twenty nine twenty eight a Ah what the fuck you talking about the these judges were all over in that <hes> <hes> Malkovich and Romo's fight someone give it twenty nine twenty seven thirty twenty six thirty twenty six <hes> in tough tough go with those those guys <hes> but Paul felder looked amazing. Curtis blades dude absolutely crushed <hes> homeboy Shamir absolutely crushed them <hes> but you know the the main takeaways how God damn good is could be how good is could be <hes> and obviously doesn't poorly as tough as they become <hes>. I was rooting for Dustin. I think people can get confused to a on my predictions people all you you fucked up again. You got it wrong again. <HES> UH-HUH I'm listening. I'm not a journalist. Ariel Wannian Not Luke Thomas. I don't work for anybody. I'm in this. I've said this since day. When I'm super bias doesn't poor as a friend friend <hes> you saw diaries empty Ovando very close. I Want Dustin wink. 'cause I know Dustin personally. I don't know could be I know could be the best last one fifty five or on the planet. He's the absolute best at what he does. That's all I know so when I give predictions I I am very biased because I've met dozen parties Wifi Kit. You know what I'm saying the when I make my picks that's what I want to happen gun to the head. Let's say showtime goes. Hey if you get this one wrong if you get this wrong. We're not. We're going to fire you. I'm not picking. I can give you exactly how it's going to go down. That's not what I'm into. I'm not interested in that. That's not fun for me. Go listen that somewhere else you want the exact XS and os who's going to win black and white. That's not what I'm about. That's not what I WANNA do. Can I do sure sure if I want. That's not what I do. Go listen somewhere else or in combat. Go listen more combat Brian Campbell in Lieu Thompson fantastic mystic. They're fantastic and that's what they do. That's why they're on board. That's what they do man. I don't WanNa do that. Does I'm very dusty. I was rooting for dozen Pori. Roy <hes> fucking minus four hundred or I'm sorry plus four fifty dog of course Chanson. We're GONNA win are not good. Here's the takeaways voice from could be a fight however you're. GonNa Approach to fighting could be the the the game plan of all right. I'm getting taken down now. I'm going to get back to my feet. Look for the open shot that th that's not the way it can be. That's out that's out. No one's ever done it. No whatever done it if you're a dozen poor fan or if you're if you're a fan of who every fight snacks and you're rooting against kb you have to I in everyone. Does this off cubbies fight yet ban yet. Avoid the take down if you detain were all bank on that one big shot or that once emission to be honest. Abe's been rocked by Michael Johnson. He got rocked by Emporia not terribly <hes> I had. Some success. Connor landed some shots but we weren't really seen in trouble. The most trouble could be ever been in was that guillotine dozen poor Ataman where to roll to his back. Anyone who knows grappling knows when a man rolls to his back that Shit is tight and that's your emergency. That's when the plane's going down you yank that cord to get the fuck out. You don't want to be on your back when to be rose back which I bet he could count amount on his fucking hand. How many times his entire life I'm how old that man it's twenty nine how many times you've been on his back by five. That's one of them when he was a baby. Eh on his back wrestling bears his back that guilty must be God. Damn tight from a black belt at a high level doesn't poor that thing was cinched tight and roll does back. That's it's the most trouble could be <unk>. Bennett and he still got out. It still wasn't enough to make that man tap so when you look at this fight and I I think if you're not a big fan you're hoping for him to lose or you're rooting for a guy who has gone against Khabib the day and age or the game plan. You've got a weather storm Gatland big one. That's not gonNA work that that's not going to be so. How do you beat them. How I was watching how do you how the fuck is somebody. Who can he can be? You're not gonNA knock him out. Grant Chen doesn't risk it a lot unless he wants to even then who gets you the exchange and then takes you down ride. You like Goddamn. Camel submission doesn't poor fantastic guillotine was kind of there but he's he's still got out of it. If you have a straight submission artists that's probably your. I bet you're going to get taken down. You're not gonNA knock him out. So you gotTa have a guy who's has a fantastic guard is great and transitions is dangerous from everywhere Tony Tony Ferguson. Tony Ferguson is if if you're if you want to be Tony Ferguson is the closest thing you're going to get. He's great office back his elbows. He's not afraid to lose rounds. He can stay down there. Here's a great guard. He's dangerous. He can wrestle. He's GonNa make could be worked down. There's a lot of times guys are just give him his back right there. Stand up into the four point stance. He's been doing that since he's Kiddies Ryan when you out. That's what everyone is trying to do. If I'm a coach and I'm planning Khabib I'm watching all these guys fail at that game plan going. We're not going to do this. That's clearly not the path to victory. We're going to have to embrace this. You'RE GONNA have to be filthy off your back and create transitions create scrambles the the chance of knock him out not good either. It's going to happen in these transitions of the rounds. Go on will Tony Ferguson is the only guy who gets better after around better better better cardio better more dangerous embraces being on his back in braces you on top of them thrives off that once the war wants to go into dragged into the deep waters waters and I'll think there could be a better time to have could be versus. Tony and you know what which is strange when Kabaeva Tony we could be like liver whatever gave out and was trying to make weight and they didn't make that happen. That was the most heartbroken ever been in entire mixed. Martial arts history of fights falling apart. I WanNa you see that fight so bad. There cannot be a better story a better time than now to create this fight because what are these two fighting for when they if they would have fought what was that to she year and a half ago if they would then you could debate is where the best one fifty five or of all time now. It's a clear cut clear or cut golden pathway to the best. One fifty five revolt time is that could be is it. Tony I can make an argument for Tony. I can make an argument for could be and they're gonNA fight so I don't need to make an argument. They're gonNA make it very clear. WHO's the boss but that fight and I I'm down argues for anyone who wants SEO will be. JC Penney held different belt in two different weight classes. It doesn't work like that mixed. Martial art is so new in sports in the history of mixed martial arts. The newer Visu Ver- versions always better is always better in boxing say Muhammad. Ali was better than <hes> Lennox Lewis. That's fine sports round so long you can look at their body of work and this kind of one way to do it in mixed. Martial arts is not that way. It's so new in the grand scheme of things. Khabib would have beat every guy. BJ beat it within fucking two minutes. It and it's not a knock on Bj the level of competition competition the level of nutrition the level of coaching the more well rounded guys the more eyeballs the Moore signed into to it. He's a specialist of all specialists so it's the same as like the first house so was good. The next test is better than that one. If you want to take it on the track so if you WanNa take a let's say when when when was BJ raining his two thousand three two and seven were we thinking they're Bj's prime is when I like Diego Sanchez win the away like in the blood right so we got to say you know and Bj's superstar one of the grace to do it of all time so let's say keep when he lost hold on scroll up for me a little bit <hes> <hes> right there stop there when he was fighting those Frankie Edgar ones that Matt Hughes one was good so I I would say diego so that's what two thousand nine sir he lost A. Bj by fuck. I'm sorry lusted saint-pierre split decision before so so say two thousand nine <hes> and you guys are still finding like Frankie Diego Sanchez Kenny floor. This isn't a knock on any of those guys you know but if you took a porsche aw gt three from two thousand nine and raced it against all the cars in two thousand nineteen gt not threes there are going to it's going to be the next level. The next generation's always better than the older generation especially in mixed martial arts non everything not an nine. Mba Non NFL because those been around for so long the athletes might be better but doesn't mean. It's a better player better fighter here though when it comes to mixed martial arts what what could be does and the the the level that he's fighting at. He's the best of all time then he looked. Tony Ferguson has done. He's won. How many in a row what's what's interesting to me about could be is these twenty eight twenty you win the fight twenty seven and now you can count on your hand. How many rounds announce he's lost. You can maybe give around. Ike Quinta but really hasn't hassle we. I think we look back on that fight because he it didn't dominate how we thought he should dominate right so you're like oh man. He kinda struggled with Al.. He's still there are some time eight rounds. They're conor McGregor that you might be able to give them one of those fights or were you hoping connor one one of those rounds. You know what I'm saying like. There's a there's we're kind of had some success but compared to what other than that he doesn't. He doesn't lose rounds. Let alone fights. We're not street is is he doesn't lose rounds. Ever even practice doesn't lose around named Guy. Aka doesn't beat could be so. How'd you beat that you have to be specialist at such a high level and grappling to Kinda negate what he's doing. <hes> the only got the top of the head again. Tony Ferguson. He's a specialist office back in transitions with DART's condos he he is cardio <hes> he's. He's very unorthodox. Oh I do like it because they can't bring a guy to Mimic Tony Ferguson. Tony can't bring you the guy that mimic could be. I love that fight so much <hes> <hes> you know there. There's there's guys like <hes> you know a a George saint-pierre who hates say. I don't think beats could be men without much time off <hes> I'm sure he he could maybe stay behind his JAB <hes> and try and do that that could be you know two to four for my argument. Let's see you know 'cause. GPA is an old school guy. Let's see if those old school hall of Famers can come back and beat the new age that might that's a great fight but for for for Khabib. I think it goes you have you can't do anything else but Tony Ferguson that you can't do anything else but Tony Ferguson Jason and this wide. UFC kickboxing his ass in just overall <hes> just two of the sport and how much faster growing than than everything else right now is because they are making the fights who wanna see right now mas wall Niyaz. Thank you Tony. I could be thank you after that just be. I think that's it I the connor the CONOR McGregor could be fight's not there for me. I'll watch it and I'M A fan. I'd be intrigued by it. It's not the that's not <hes> I'm not. I don't have to see that. We've seen that it just connor doesn't possess the skills to I'm telling you a guy who's just going to hope to get back. This feat. knockabout isn't going to beat this man. You have to have a guy who's the x factor with cardio submissions off his back willing engage on the ground not just not not trying to get back to his feet. <hes> another guy they have to meet at a catchweight would be ben asking. I'd love to see the oh knocked down my mouth. Shut it. I get it could not come out like that. He forced to engage in this grappling battle. It have to be at sixty five which I think could be with entertain <hes> but to be he you you know he's a huge huge star huge star so I doubt he would entertain that <hes> SPECI- after a Benz cut off loss <hes> but I think for the BBC's he's talked about. He doesn't want to fight that long all right we got. Tony I in which is straight up battle for the best one fifty five of all time. GSP and even called out GSP SP so outside data. I don't see anyone else getting a shot. I know people go what just engaged to beat <hes> ceremony. It's just not there. I don't see that happening. <hes> it is intriguing matchup with his wrestling background but I just don't see can be taken that fight. I I think he's GonNa do too. I think he Tony Ferguson and maybe if GOP doesn't play ball with the UFC <hes> brass then maybe Gita just engaged if steamrolls through dancer ony but could be man men. The specialist of all specialists think Luke. Thomas brought this up on his show to as we were all of us are go man. The the the future of mixed martial arts is everyone's being well rounded. You'll be so well rounded and that's the future this week kids who they're not black belts in Jujitsu zoo or they're not. They're not Greco Roman Olympic Molester. They're good at everything what we're finding out those people that don't focus on one thing they're decent everything but they're not one of a kind dominate in wrestling or grappling or striking the ones who are the ones who kind <music> own this. Goddamn game right now if they have one major major base so I think in Luke brought up a fantastic point is we always thought that being well rounded and having a kid starting development skills in everything so he's a mixed martial arts the best way to go be looking at the greatest time. It's really not like that is it. It's really not like like that. So how would you recommend people starting out. Go about wrestling start dive into wrestling immediately. Yeah you look you look at the specialist e e even even from wrestling grappling standpoint or you look at a guy like style bender with the striking who so dom- strike in or wonderboy <hes> Woodley's wrestler these these guys have these these incredible foundations. I you know I guess to that argument. I mean Tony. Person has a pretty fucking strong. Wrestling <hes> credential John Jones Ross credential 'cause they dictate where the fight goes but if they're just average if they're just if they never play like Wrestling Division One college or do Co.. Or competed at that level and they just practice with with those guys. You can get good but you're never going to beat the guy who specializes in that you know so. Would you say maybe like star wrestling and then maybe also what while. Oh you're competing wrestling kind of dabble stuff to get a little bit too yeah exactly who does dial did golden gloves and make sense after you know when you when you look at the history of the sport God man sometimes when you try to cover all your bases. You're you're good at something. DRAVID others will if you're just average at that one thing he's these guys are so goddamn good during the expose that you know it's a specialist world man and we used it. We went away from that and now it's completely back. Tila and I love it. I Love I love guys trying to figure out the be puzzle and no one hold up not only has no one has no one's even keeping called us to figure out that Rubik's cube of Kim. There hasn't been close name close both John Jonsman closer defeat than could be the gusts Vin Santos answers. Yeah Anthony Smith like there's been there's been close you know. He got caught with the arm bar with vitor. You know there's been some some close calls. He still the ground swell time but then he could be like Oh shit. He only got kinda guilty. When Michael Johnson rocked him then he beat them into oblivion and made them apologize Tena White Cave site it was crazy. Beaten is asking Dana. Please give up you have to stop. I need the title shot you know just beaten us on a good. God Sky's the fucking savage men but Y- whatever whatever I would look back a career and go all right. All these guys tried to weather the storm didn't work. 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The first one I heard like I can be a monster so <hes> our boy Adam picker Lodhi picker Lodhi mclardy bigger lottie doing the damn thing loved the video him cut in weightlessness king this thing <hes> that's why winded credit goes king the sting. It's it's the dark arts of. Theo von helped me out there at him. <hes> shut up to that young man <hes> phenomena victory great <hes> naked choke. I saw that one saw borax <hes> <hes> and then I saw kind of the little mishap with Bater Chad Congo look confused though 'cause baiters kind of weapon that ASS wasn't it opened compete not ask you and then going so I I haven't seen any of the replays of anything I saw his ass and then when they said no contact no-contests accidental I poke there was no I poke no or nostril. Poke yes and is that that's all the factory have as of now. I mean I was talking to data about this. I I was watching that live and I was actually pissed off as soon as I saw that happen when he said we did this with his I. I was like fuck this guy. I remember thinking fuck this guy. He's GonNa find a way out and of course he found a way out yeah yeah so. They're gonNA Redo it. He said he would do it. He would rematch. It's but he's actually looking at lamp. It's entered the cage at the money fight for Betas that is yeah but rampages supposed fighter. I'd watch that yeah all right well but yeah man. Ad Typing Monster Yeah. It's weird like the replay goes up his nose and then he starts grabs. I we have some stuff here. You could look at to Brian. Bear clemes took easy way out open a fine ramp up all right yeah and then. I'll show you the actual. This is what fricken Congo wrote of all all things conger wrote this yes shit happen sometime. There may but come on I poked twice by the way an uppercut landed on my forehead. Really I couldn't see my was reading. Reddin swabs or the fight had to be ended by Dr. He couldn't do anything to stop me. This is so easy to keep a belt. This is so easy. Keep a belt like that's not the. Bs baiters is no champion just a fucking coward and cheater come on Dude. It's tough. I'm sure he's just getting lit up in the comments there yeah for sure well well but I mean when you see something like that God. There's always a Dick Rider this shitty anonymously this guy's name. Don't we give him any credit credit shitty my man. He's also cheated his fans by doing that. Oh my God what are they do. They think you're just like yeah. You Bro. Thanks I spend my bag man. I don't know well I mean so all those fans right like rhyme better preparing for how long for this fight all the fans you're Scott. Coker your boss everyone there and you let them down like that by faking yes. That's on Congo yeah. They can't be happy. I'd imagine they probably don't make the rematch either either. I Bet I bet you Scott. Coke has been the business forever. He's the best promoter. Let's not get it twisted. What's the point. I know this rampage posted for the blind. People saying it was a nose poke. You don't get the Red Red in your eyes from getting poked in the knows. I've been finding was twenty years. I Don I poke when I see one or not doing <hes> in yet landed on the forehead yeah and when you saw the fight. Congo's doing this like this but then I saw like when the campaign away from he I like this. I was like well but the best actor we've seen stuff like this from before you know like short grab insurance grabbing grabbing shots and we'll take baiters side in this one yeah. If there's sites taken they also they started that <hes> the Grand Prix Oh yeah that was does the flyway Grand Prix the featherweight yeah do my boy Adam borax doing the damn thing. He's as the dark horse. Mulligan is not skills some current events all right this is more towards UCD forty two <hes> could be. I loved loved it how he said <hes> how Iraq each other's shirts because I'm going to sell the t shirt all this money. I'm going to send a dozen Pori. Love it yeah and you could see. Ah Dusting was so messed up that he lost like they're announcing it so I'm like Dana is GonNa be just like us. I should have won biggest biggest moments life. He's he's heartbroken. How good is a guys beeped out Jesus Christ yeah. I wanted to ask you this question too so during the fight when Dustin started I feeling in some sort of you know <hes> adversity he constantly was he was like constantly looking at US coaches even just from news on the ground. Oh really he wasn't like in the fight and fight uses looking towards the coaches yeah whiskey. I didn't notice any of that yeah but so what was your what's the I'm just thinking like it was a moment so big for him that he didn't live in the moment and he was just just trying to rely on the coaches again through it be weird with his experience relying cuts as it gives us coaches are it's very rare with the coach goes do this and then it wins you the fight. It's just like so much goes into that camp. I think I think maybe you know are they trained for this grappling kind of fight and when you're down there's just a different animal. Everybody says that. DC says that Lucas says that like dude. I'm telling you never felt anything. It could be on topic. It's a hold of you so I think maybe doesn't like dude. He said Grab Your Shit. AIN'T I. I'm out of options dude. I've been doing this for how many years I don't know what the fuck have to do so he's looking. I'm like do you guys know. We don't know either just like it's such an experienced fighter feeling so helpless yeah 'cause that's the that's all you have to offer. That's it and it's just it's not there so I think he's again like you got any other suggestions. It seemed like it happened. Real fast though Suzy Museum on the ground is looking looking interesting but yeah so after this this happened. I think maybe last night earliest morning. He doesn't play a put a message out on his I believe is his instagram or twitter. I never believe anyone a week after fighting thing they say but carrying I mean this is just right after two in in his hotel looks like thank you guys support. It means a lot to me. If I choose to fight again. I'll be back strong if not I'll see what God has in store for me. Thank you so. He said if he chooses to fight again listen. He's at the lowest point of his life. That's like that's like asking <hes> comic or its own when they just the APP and absolute bomb dude how grades comedy I feel hot the fuck dude I would this is even magnified one hundred times because his entire career led to this point and then and you know not only do you. Do you lose fight but it's it was very competitive. You know <hes> not that anybody's been competitive so he's nothing hanging his head down about but it's just you know it's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking. They fight one hundred times he's not going to be. Let's talk to deal with that at a professional level. You know number one lightweight in the world to realize you're never beating that guy. That's that's a tough pill. It'll swallow man. You don't give them the sport on <hes> well. There's always me guy who's better than me. I'M GONNA see how I do. It's not why you doesn't boys level the heartbreaking men heartbreaking. I feel for everyone that was like the main point compensation that they were really heartbroken for dust emporia when you see him at the post fight press conference Ah Yeah. I think it's tough. I think it's tough I think it's I I think too that he at his level have many years he's provided of entertainment and at the the success as hadn't you'll see he should be set for life but we know that's not the case. I think that's one of the reasons why we're heartbroken forum a his wife and his kid <hes> a theme be different if this was like boxing and you're like well he lost but he made twenty million dollars like all right well. He's fine. He's going to go on the fuck you want to. It's not that way in the AFC men. He's not fine. He's not set and I think that's one of the reasons why he just got it. Hit hit you right in the fields. What else do you have. <hes> this happened before the fight could be dad was talking to a Russian meal and said he would be making twice or three times. As much as you differ differ connor fight for this one so around six million or more ways new contract right and all he said it's the biggest of all time so <hes> speaking Russian news outlets competes father says he will earn a huge payday will make three to three and a half times more as well as could be sworn success inside the cage us his sons <hes> <hes> popular has been driving force behind the negotiations that looked to set him earn an excess of six million in sponsors or see saying no actual payday would be six million or more mix. That's all right this Dana white when he was questioned by media like if if I wanted to Saint Pierre he said maybe I should play for him but <hes> people in Brazil are talking about George some a Eh to come back and fight with them. Do you think this is possible to happen in the future sure here's the thing so. I think if let's say if it was like Tony Ferguson or someone younger someone that that wants to have a long career you would never do the DSP fight because they don't want gop doing division coming in getting the belt. I'm good that's your best. You Got I am I beat him. I'm good Gimme another belt from my wall. They don't WanNa come in fucking everything up and then not finding him retiring. It makes this kind of makes that division look bad makes current champ looks bad but I think with could be now that I really want to more accurately so if fights Tony and then he says the only ones to do one more. You're in no matter what the divisions can be opened so why not bring just be then because there's no long game here you can actually find out who is the best one fifty five or ask ever ever pound for pound best ever so <hes>. I think that it's a little I think before that I know we're not listened to use. We we know you. Fifty five certainly come here. Take the balance dip the fuck out. It's fucking everything up so but I think that's why dance thing like nick's a little more sense now you you know that's basically what he said. He was saying why he thinks that and he goes yeah. These have so much invested in them and yeah I'd probably win. The bell devout the Georgia who like no. I'll stick around defending at some of the guys like new. I'M GONNA get the belt just to make sure you get the best and I'm fucking out yeah so he was like yeah it makes sense for the UC. It's terrible. I mean you know in his fighting. Its bidding was huge numbers nine hundred I think think within breaking million so they're still you know could be a huge star in Russia so <hes> I get where GSB's I where everybody's Calvin from here but now it's a little bit of a different game because Kabaeva not trying to do ten fights George. GSP's trendy ready to let's be great huge payday but only the winner of Tony Khabib should fight just be nine hundred twenty eight nine hundred year. Oh nine hundred Viggo annot eight seventy five eight seventy five so did pretty good for seventy five for the Kurt. Pears fantastic did fantastic. What else do we got here. This is just engaging. After conor McGregor tweeted I want the rematch book in Moscow after the dozen foyer could be and then rematch from US Moscow then just in your get your tool. You've lost everything already your shit. He would father husband foot. Oh Wow hard yeah. I'll feel that way all right well wow shit human father and husband fucking wow that's aggressive. tonner team responded. I don't think so I know that if if they did do <hes> he's all that if they did do connor verse could be in Moscow that build up the embedded like countdowns. That'd be crazy. We'll it'd be safe. I mean he was safe in Brazil the lesson they've it's Russia. Is anyone say Carey on the next one. I want to go to Russia though yeah so I mean you already mentioned that nate the as is fighting Maskhadov for to forty four but <hes> leading up to this. There's all this Weird Commotion Emotion and Mix ups right so area who wanNA actually tweeting stuff like <hes> the Uis men and COVINGTON talks are breaking down right. They can't reach negotiation there that happen been and then. Mas Udall was supposed to fight whose men right this is all within like a twenty five periods you oh okay and finally it was announced that <hes> and then also this is Covington pissed off a game bread but their friends they're friends since my goodbye to take the fight against us men that's kind of like jacking up. COVINGTON right so I'm guessing he's pissed off about that actually even some shit about Covington at the press conference he asked him about about maybe going up to welterweight sixty five or something like that and he's like and I fighting over the belt you keep saying about and poor he goes now. I don't fucking sell out like Covington alternate on 'em okay but <hes> yeah so when it was finally announced this is just some of the tweets but now Maswadeh all nate new yeah. That's the fight to make our saw like bread Okamoto. put it out first and then aerial said multiple sources say that's the fight. I'm wondering do you think Dana was just saying the stuff to people and his team so he errol probably pick up some other news and then finally just gave it to Okamoto to really broke down this way. I think they give it to Brett. I I think they hate Rochereau so data. Who Does the match ups or gets word. I Goes Hey Brat Tat. Pretext doesn't call him because here's the fight bread announces. Does it then gets the runoff from that. That's how it goes down. I imagine if you were Covington or would you be upset about are being becoming. <hes> wouldn't be thrilled all but it's New York and that fight. That's such a big fight and if you're even if you're a fighter but your a fight fan like you know what that fight means. We don't need belts. We don't need rankings. We don't need anything I need that for five rounds son like that fight bigger bigger than the game or the metrics and everything trying to do we. That's exactly what we need you now so if I'm Kobe newsmen I listen love both Kobe newsman phenomenal fighters phenomenal people know both of them love both of them friends of mine those two together. That's they're not. GonNa make headlines like Mazda in eight years so just from a business standpoint if I'm use meaning colby. I don't care if I'm coming event main event. I want to be on that Mas of Doll Nate Nate Diaz Card. Check your ego at the door and thinking about your bank account. You'RE GONNA get more eyeballs by being on this Card Co.. Alarming but coast does your GonNa make more money being co nate and Gabe red cells the fight Yada so it's supposed to be for an actual belt that even Dana White said he would that creative belt for fucker away yeah but boss logic came up with this belt which Lawson love bus logic yeah. That's cool what else you got. That's go so colby newsmen. They're just not gonNA fighter. Okay Eh but is colby. Guess wants money. This happened after the last show. The CYBORG signed a deal with the Bell Tower. <hes> <hes> and it's supposed to be the biggest female signing doing how much she's making get for her mandate. We will know instead of so far good for her great for for her. Did you see announcement though weird fantastic play at come. This is always weird. They come in like in the street clothes on again. There is weird aw aw crowds like they're just kind of like there like the arenas very lit up. I would have made it like really dark habit like lit on her yeah. I was just showed her. I would have done this at what is shown her cage side pay off. Cameron like new signee female contract like this is so awkward. What do you go from here. Where do you go from here all right there. It is three other splatters to the delatour cage. How do you feel knowing that you have just secured one of the biggest contracts in MMA history with Balladur. Women's history the biggest contracts. Do we know what it is though no good for her man at worked out but yeah multi deal and this her first opponent is the title Julia Budd <hes> Cyborg. <hes> sent me a voice mail because when I did the food diary with Kyle Harrison. I said I get why I I think this she's upset. I said I get why the UFC did it market her and marketer as the bully because of her physical features they go. They market the pretty girls because they want to entice more girls. 'cause steroids are not which about cyborg. She's gifted man. Chaz crazy crazy genetics whether you want to say steroids which she was born with great genetics. Most girls aren't born with great genetics. That was my point to it so I think she's upset about that. <hes> what we were saying before this point is. I love CYBORG and I. It means offend you that that that was your big supporter. That's I've always been big supported but on the other side of the biggest contract I forgot who it was that was talking about it but some analysts or maybe luke or someone said biggest could mean anything it could mean biggest whatever you know like not just financially not money wise <hes> what I'm saying. It'd be big because because it's nine in years something something ten fight contract yeah. It'd be something dirty fight contract. They don't give us numbers do they. They will come out yeah yeah so they're not sure when this is going to happen yet. This fight with Julia budd interested but <hes> so good news right. I guess Bj Penn they know why I was asked about after seeing the street fights you know what he would do. He Goes No. He's not gonNA fight again. Here's why did he reach out to. BJ Talk to BJ's to get his perspective. Why why do we let TMZ and social media decide our feelings on BJ Penn.. I don't support what he's doing but here's the thing nothing's added for our our pleasure. Has Anyone talked to beat him like there was let's fuck happen. There was a podcast where he was on Jay spoke up. About what did he say he was saying. Basically like this guy is a problem with him. Call him acquaintance and he said he went outside to try and like talk it out. Hug Him hug him. He said I would just give them a hug. 'cause I'm a nice guy right stuff yeah and then they just kind of turned physical knocked him real hard and like knock down. Wow that's tough. I and I'm glad BJ's not fighting but I wish she went out on his own terms scan of shitty way for legend to go out you know true but he did get into a street fight heads he did. He's saying it's all the videos are like herding his <hes>. I guess he's going through a nasty kind of custody battle. Oh No with kid yeah I use. It is nothing worse. Partner or ex-partner was trying to get the kids up to California here and now she might look their dad's street street fights. You're fucked man. That's horrible. I wish Bj the best that's terrible what else you get don't get in. St Still you know yeah <hes> well well. This is just the beginning so billy Joe Saunders signed with Eddie hearn Batra and KISSI versus Logan Paul. They're going to be on the zone. It's going to be a professional match. Gotcha and they'll just be on guard undercard syncing right yeah. I mean if you're Billie Joe. I guess you're you're hoping that the the <hes> the young kids that are tuning into Kassai and Logan Paul translate to your fight and you get a bigger fan base from that. We're we're. I'm and I'm not opposed to it. He has has no this. I am on record saying I like Logan Paul. He's a friend of mine. <hes> I like what he's doing here. I don't care that it's not high level and they're not fighters. I liked that they're flipping the fight world on the on the head and going the. Oh you think it's that hard to make this come together. Check this out and they sell Shitload of paper views and kids tune in they're getting health health either given shape and actually training for it as much as they can and then the final products whatever <hes> but you are going into a little bit dangerous territory when you have a legit guy like billy Joe Saunders on the undercard and got real fighters so it. It's a weird world. We're kind of entering into and I. I don't know how I feel about it <hes>. I don't know I don't know but we we ventured in this world before haven't we was see him punk. QC So this is in you know everyone wants to shit on Logan Paul and kiss. I I'm sure people will give them to zone or <hes> Billy Joe Saunders ship but the UFC the first ones to do this with with seeing punk you just you just looking for numbers looking for eyeballs James Toney. Even well actually give you the box more the grass talk. Maybe maybe Kimball Dada five was terrible. We start fights and like street fighter. Yes yeah this. This isn't anything new but <HES> I liked Logan Paul things misunderstood kid. I think <hes> he really trained to help them. How can yet he hears a boxing arenas backyard. How much of the first one do they just did that on their own millions yeah. I did a lot so now they're with his own legally extreme too so we don't even know yeah <hes> supposedly. Jake Paul and <hes> might be going up against Dylan Danis what they've been going back and forth on instagram and like like in their own videos and stuff dylan saying sign the contract. They see <hes> Dylan dance doing that again. I like down's too I again. You're GonNa Tricky territory with with Logan Paul's brother what's name Jake Jake Paul. You're fighting a guy who this is what he does man. Yeah I nobody's but he's Judaica now. I get that Buddy I get that you're talking about. This is what this guy does your backgrounds youtube and I'm I'm sure your athletic guy but it doesn't make sense to do it with a guy a WHO actually does it. You know that that would make sense fight another youtuber man that'd be more compelling although him fighting a real guy people tune into yeah. That'd be a bad idea for Jake Paul would not end well what else right here it says sold over a million people you'll purview ninety nine though yeah of course got Michael Buffer I remember to announcing for it. It's not just a lot of you know. Joe Logan Paul's team they they do it right well. You Know Augustine retired last month and now he's considering coming back and he would look rock hold. I love that fight. I don't know fluke wants to yeah I don't. I don't know if either those guys want to fight. Kinda like one guy not one fight. DILETTANTE will fight for the both superstars so they might make it happen. I don't don't see luke doing it. I guess fit in to my faves men to the nice guys. I don't want to see him fight as a tough fight how come back. I don't WanNa either didn't Denno what else you get. This is just a real quick. Look at Anthony Johnson hidden pads that boys lawyers thick like a Marlboro boy like the blue eyed tunas got damn. He's dense boys dance feel sorry for her fight that man I do. F- yeah what else you got so a few and he's not fat thick. He's again. Oh he looks like Marlin tuna thick yeah all muscle. What else yet very thick so. There's a few fighters that did <hes> dance competitions recently so Valentina Shevchenko did one and she played the girl from from Greece. What does she do it on Peru anyways. It's really good but the one I wanted editor show you is junior. Dos Santos Hell Yeah. He's on dancing with the stars in Brazil. Who tweeted this look. Oh wow how's he get shadowboxing on this show tribute to watch this. Please just let this play this. I dance on starts Brazil but I mean just watching him dances very entertaining kind of doing the damn thing Great Song Great Sung night at Roxbury Baby. He's not terrible. Memorial moves those in particular just his smile. He's enjoying it so much. Kinda worldy nicest ever ever. Did he win. I don't know funny. I'm going to guess no though I'm going to at the Aladdin pants enemy fighters doing lake. Uh mainstream shows now patrons at well that's thanks. ESPN and <hes> W me Patriot and that was like on the real dance stars <hes> <hes> they did an anime verse WWe Steve Harvey Family Feud recently. Oh and Woodley was on and it was Woodley Baiter Ulema Les McFarlane Chocolate Allen Rainy Guitar Weird Bunch. Yeah who won. I WanNa say animated positive but everyone against the militant sisters sisters. Oh Shit Oh speaking of junior dosantos says next fight against Alexander Volkov great fight with fight for junior man. Yeah love that fight Moscow yeah <hes> you mentioned this before Liane Edwards possibly fighting Tyron Woodley so he said that might be an option if you can't get anywhere else on the food truck this week right so let's see what he says about it. I liked that fight. Woodley would like that fight already and this is what I mentioned earlier fit or a million ain't going Quinton Rampage Jackson. They're being in the talks for Reisen. I'll watch again too thick tuna boys yeah and then there's also another thing here <hes> wheats toward bring. Ryan Bater to challenge the rise so it'll be a CO promotion with rising belter. They've done it before like when they do that man. It's Kinda cool now through Josh Gross. That's cool and I think that's this is a I just saw. This announced built her two three four Syria ketone of enlists. Clinton vessel was cells. Usually that's interesting. He's gone up to heavyweight. He's fought. I think he's what once already at heavyweight really buzzing big. Now I believe he lost <hes> a number of score Roger Horta Shit Hodge alert. He's renaissance husband. Combi his name Bro Vander Ford. He's a stud. He's GonNa be on that. Quiz show more ink on his chest. I saw online. The is an old picture of them too. I know his neck pets going. Come on Bro. You you see what it looks like at. Who's been doing for fucking ever as well yeah what else yet this is. It's not gonNA go anywhere but Edson Barboza team was I was going to file an appeal to the <unk> elder do bid because of the you know what you mentioned before that the numbers thirty twenty seven thirty twenty one for each person the other Gracie but what are you. GonNa do men yeah he definitely he didn't win that fight and excuse me <hes>. This is what Dan mentioned before remember. Dan Course Hannigan. Oh Yeah <hes> San Man. The nickname is now. We appear official thought yeah he he posted the Clip Bovis too nice corey the Sandman Santa Hagen God day as a ring. The does make that Shirley Buck Hell Yeah shallot curry are and then we have fights <hes>. We got fight to get really stat card. <hes> is it. Saturday night yeah <hes> Saturday night from Vancouver British Columbia Canada <hes> September fourteenth at Saturday night yet your main event first team all violence just engage cheever's dos Aronie rony. One of the best made events this year five rounds of fury. There is no way in hell. This goes to the judges. There's no way Hey I'm a betting man. Probably is my book in Bet on the under. Whatever it is <hes> you know <hes> take share of Krylov that the fun as fight did it to me this card as far as fun factors better than the pay per view. You see to forty to this to this. Will I guarantee you this. This will be more exciting. The could be poor a card. <hes> Todd Duffey shot my boy. The duff man todd the Duff Man Duffy Fighting Jeff US feel bad for Geoff Hughes. Todd Todd is an absolute. Ham fucking nightmare and a great dude. He hasn't fought since two thousand fifteen. He's he's out of condition. His nerves yeah is a really bad condition. Any seemed like the gun control. He's healthy wish todd the best loved Todd <hes> this Guy Michelle Perr that crazy acrobatic dude oh ponytail ooh yeah yeah my favorite fighter that week but his opponent something happens. They're looking for another point. It's fully hopefully they find some now. I'm telling you I love this car. You Got Your Hall for Scholars Junior. Remember him from tough. Brazil went up Brazil. That's a great fire fight yet me shove. Jimmy crew that's fun and then he got heavyweights. Tara <hes> I I love this card man. We smoker smokers. Come Smoke Fund a Second Ryan MacDonald yea. I'm not mad at this card at off. Not Phenomenal fights <hes> tough fight for cowboy. He's an underdog gripe. I you know donalds known for being a slow starter. Remember Donald Easter train. Just engages team is trained together. <hes> if you've seen the rumors out Nyman rumors Justin can confirm this. He got knocked out by downed and training <hes> but at the time Donald was big brother. Justin was little brother. The tables have kinda turned just as just started anime who's a straight wrestled from from University of Northern Colorado sparring with Rony no business even sparring with him at the time <hes> and should happen so <hes> I it's. It's a different story now. <hes> S- Rone's you know he's at the miles on a man he's coming off that Tony Ferguson <hes> fight <hes> which is tough to watch watch but Tony's one of the best or nothing hanging out about that <hes> just engage you has the perfect start up to make it a nightmare night for Sony Sony. Be a slow starter. Just engaging comes hot got out the Goddamn Gates. It's a it's a nightmare matchup for Sony strove. Close friend will never pay against them. Don't listen me and bad on my picks <hes> <hes> it's tough fight for done. <hes> wow. Duffy's the underdog. I think it's been out for so long. Do you have no idea what to expect. Plus one hundred in mice when twenty Bickham and then Tyson fury fighting <hes> furious fighting dear God head out of Arlene. This is me into the boxing. God's Dear God don't let Auto Wolland land a big shot and fuck up fury verse wilder and Dare Gods. Don't let Ortiz beat wilder either and ruined next year for me. I beg of you <hes> Tyson Fury Tyson Fury <hes>. I don't think goes judges. I think outclasses kid. He's a minus twenty five hundred that he go see ties. Here is talking shit to like everyone. Joshua will wild wilder against asked if he could or mention sidestepping him to fight the winner of Joshua release. That's what can happen so yeah while there's I bet you want me to you. You want me to tell you what goes down this. What's going to happen fears and be this guy. Nobody cares about in tune into since fury sign with these. Pin. Do you hear much about them at all ever now you don't you fucked up make money though we love you. No one's no watching these fights. He's beaten these up and comers. He's a mine is twenty five hundred favourite. He's taken easy path all right. No what's everybody talking about Joshua Breweries and wilder so then wow there's gonNA fight Ortiz. I I'd be willing to bet wilder fights the though especially if released where to win that again so there's no there's no rubber match during Joshua in Res Your and get wild adverse res next year before you get wild overs fury that would be what I bet on to to unify. All the belts happened anti-semitic huge mistake sign with the guys. Did you hear anything about he's and this. I'm on record. He's my favorite fighter. I just found out he's fighting this weekend. Yeah that's why I'm that's probably why is drumming up. You know trash talk. Everyone's like okay dude. Joshua said that he'll randomly. Just get a call from fury saying like like with fury saying he's GonNa knock him out like Josh like all right cool. Dude that dude yeah one more thing. I want dimensions. I feel like no one's talking about this bisbee hosting like a competition show on Netflix really simple trailer trailer up. It's called hyper drive and it's like I saw him my cue that they're doing these like obstacle courses and something has been co host new Netflix show. He's doing. I think commentary and hosting for it to you know cars. I guess color absolutely nothing compared to the spectacle you are about to see this is the most spectacular car competition fastened periods plan realize in this industrial complex has been transformed into tin of the most insane racecourses imagine the lab Valera. I seek story. Monstrosity level drivers made my goal is to show other people. There are no Olympic. They've come from across the globe to chase a dream work about four jobs making sure it's been a long road to get your acid behind the wheel another market where this game show Sir Sir. They want something bad enough. Do what you need to do you make they don't have a lot of my put competition. That's all that's cool man. I hope it goes well for <HES> Bisbee. Just random I came across it like watching trailers and it came up about to exit out there really show Biz being now. Do they like you. We know who he is but they don't really a highlight distinct voice. I wish they would good for him. Though man gladis killing it that it just fan questions do it. What do you got fan homes. First one is from Dan detail forty football player. You Know My dad just in the packers there you go today. Dan vitale okay at least for the Green Bay packers baiter versus deep in a heavyweight crossover between Ucla or who you got steapy all all day all day all right the boy king forty-three. What do you think about Gregor Gillespie's call out against Pettus the call it was lame but the due to the straight killer killer. Why why do you think he doesn't fight more to these fishing is fishing a ton of fish and he can release is he <hes> well so he's so he's putting a lot of holes and fishes side of their mouth and then <hes> he loves to do that and he doesn't eat breathe eve ensler fighting like ton of fans do and he's living his life has been the bass motherfuckers on the planet so <hes> come get some. I wouldn't WANNA fight him. It's funny because if if I was in that division I wanNA fight him. Nightmare pettus is also like a big fisher to he like the last embedded for the DS fight right. He was out in waiters edition. Damn what's tough is because the rankings you know like Gregor <hes> Glitzy Paul filters a fun fight Pettus Fund fight Lee Barboza a quaint <hes>. There's so many great fights but because those guys ranked higher they don't. They're not willing to take it against a guy like Gregor galaxy because he's such an nightmare of a matches but the four somebody's hand. He's GonNa get somebody in there in the in between the ten to six range. Somebody's getting it what else you Ardi. <hes> Suheil underscored DOT Sch Aquin why you say you love could be when every chance you get you want him to loose English definitions in his first language. I feel your dude <hes> now. I think people can fuses. It's not that I wanted to lose. If I sit on here and I just sucked could be off how grade eighty is <hes> especially when he's fighting a guy so it's well. I was a big Conor McGregor fan so I thought that was GONNA be interesting. Doesn't he's a friend of mine so AH I wanted that fight to be more interesting than it is. I'm a huge could be thin. Sometimes I think <hes> fans are blindsided or just blind mine too. You can like someone in and root against them. You can still like somebody and and not want them to beat your friend or something like that so <hes> <hes> just because you go. God I think doesn't might be able to do it with a guillotine or he's GonNa rock earlier. It depends I could be react to that. which was my prediction could be went? Oh cool punched. I'm beat your Dick off. <hes> you know it. It doesn't mean I dislike anybody so i. I think people are blurring the lines there what else you got <hes> <hes> this is from. Brayden retchless aerial tweeted that Houston turned down Colby and Mazal was nearly stripped of the title. Did you hear anything about this <music>. Also I know it's a long ass flight but any chance of seeing you in Australia Australia out. We just <hes> mapped out the your Europe Tauromachy in London Liverpool <hes> in Cork Dublin <hes>. I'm in freaking <hes> <hes> what else am I. I'm in Sweden. I think I'm a mom all over Europe and so they they knock in that out then there figure out Australia but I will definitely be there there <hes> La La love Australia as far as <hes> who's been turned down. Fights not haven't heard anything sprite takes his manager. See what's going on there that that that would be your problem filter enough fights but he was kind of injured so i. I don't know what's going on there. That's a bummer though what else you get okay. Let's go with breath this one camman common tender Ru. What does that support. Maybe the connery match and the winner of that that will fight the winner of cowboy. I didn't think about that's a good idea. Converse doesn't worry too is a not a bad idea to great stylistic fight for Connor her. It's a phenomenal payday for a poor still wants to fight. I love that fight I did. I didn't think about that. That's a great idea what else else cool this is. Kinda SORTA similar a little bit. PB K. and the May <hes> could dozen for your cut down to one forty five and challenged Max for the featherweight title bad idea better idea. Let's do one more sure wake underscore Torres oh nine. When is the big brown lawn care products coming out to make whisky long. Why don't you lie. I Love I love. I'm leaving that up to the experts at launch my own type of fight this that'd be sick shot. I'll be they brown fight. Shout the lawns coming up man. We have fall happening happening winter. Never get for the lawns good luck out there Lonnie's at it. That's it cool man <hes> date three guys. I I think Thursday show in Pasadena sold out <hes> after that next week and I'm in Houston. I'm excited for this Houston. <hes> Friday Saturday to show Friday to show Saturday in Houston Texas at the Houston Improv <hes> after that I'm in Denver Comedy Works Denver Thursday Friday Saturday Denver Comedy Works Downtown <hes> than just announce it almost sold out is Pittsburgh October third through the fifth and then Philadelphia October seventeenth through the nineteenth and then if you feel froggy be back in Texas when I'm in Dallas November fourteenth to the sixteenth October of October Number Burger. Why would you fuck me on November Dallas Eleven Fourteen and eleven sixteen Dallas <hes> yeah but next week Houston we got for that Denver Denver? Let's do it off special merch for each show that can only get at shows in person T- fat K. Dot Com for all your tickets tickets of any of those dates. I just told you about that it. That's it thanks for listening. I love you guys. Thanks for subscribing making a show what it is <hes>. 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JRE MMA Show #61 with Herb Dean

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JRE MMA Show #61 with Herb Dean

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My guest today is a longtime friend of mine who is absolutely the gold standard for mixed martial arts referees, and a very intelligent and interesting guy and very fun. Gotta talk to. And I I always enjoy company we've been talking about doing a podcast forever. Some finally I'm excited that we finally got to sit down into it. Please welcome the great and powerful. Herb dean. The Joe Rogan experience. Joy, Joe Rogan podcast. We're live her dean. How are you, sir? I'm good. How about yourself? So glad we finally doing this. You'll have talked about doing a podcast for the last three years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know? I'm glad to be on it. Yeah. What you talk to you for little bit. I think in I've said this before you have the hardest job in the sport of than the fighters. Does the fighters obviously, they have the hardest job. You of the second. Hardest job referees. The second hardest job in the sport is a fucking hard job. Like, you have so much responsibility. I think you have a really hard job. I think the talk how long do you talk for is just hours, six hours, six hours. And sometimes there's not always something interesting to talk about and or sometimes. Yes. So I think it's amazing to be able to talk about that. It's not that easy. It's not that hard rather. It's pretty easy. I mean, it's just bunch of stuff's happening. And you're calling it, and I'm a blabbermouth. So I can't shut the fuck up anyway. So if they're spots where this it's not that interesting. Find some interesting say, but it's not a it's, you know, in terms of like what what's happening is happening. You know what I mean? Guys getting hit guys getting choked. There's a lot of crazy action going on. And it's really. Pretty easy. If you're a lifelong fan of martial arts like I right call it, you know, as long as you're enthusiastic, and you're interested in, and you know, you gotta treated with respect to got to treat it for what it is. You know, you're trying to entertain people trying to use your words in the most pleasing way possible trying to massage people's ears in a way, you know, you're trying to try to also represent what you're seeing. And how special it is especially I did it a little bit not for real like. Somehow, I do this thing that was for these people black belt TV, and I was with Don the dragon Wilson, and they're just like old fight, and we're supposed to commentate this old fight. And that's why I think it's hard because I was horrible at old fights are harder. Because you might know what's already happened. So you gotta play dumb. And so it's like almost like you have to be an actor as well. As commenting on a fight. I think it would be harder to call an old fight. Yeah. Yeah. Because in the back of your head you'd be like, I'm being phony. Yeah. I know it's it's already happened. I think they did that with some of the pride fights. I think I think some of the pride fights they they did the commentary after the action because you remember when pride on three o'clock in the morning. We wouldn't get it to like a day later or something. I remember one time of the worst is when when your friends tells you because you you you wait, you don't look at the I remember I was training. I I think I wouldn't I trained with savant one time. I don't know if you don't him. Sure. Yeah. And we have been in the car the whole time, Royal it's like when I get home and watch pry and then right before he dropped him off at his house right before it gets to like goes. Oh, Vanderlei civil lost in the. Oh, oh, something. I said, yeah, we would have to wait. Sometimes like there was a couple of vents feel like it was like a week or something. Crazy Muhsin it. So you had to like stay off the internet for a week, which is which is good for me. You know, I could do it. But yeah. But you've got to also avoid all your friends a little internet fanatics. They start talking to your stop stop. Yeah. I don't I don't know who won yet these days. It's so bad. Like if I go, and I do a comedy show on the night of like a big boxing match or something like that. Like my text messages. Tell me like people start sending me to they they can't wait to spoil shit like damn can got robbed. And I was like what what off fuck. And then I don't get to just watch. It. I want to just come home and hit the DVR and watch it. I'll keep the fuck away from the news. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's let me get home. But then the text messages will get me. I almost like I can't even read text message. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Damn it. It's funny. Big you don't enjoy a fight. Even if it's a great fight as much if you don't if you know what happened. Yeah. No. No, no. You're not. You're you wanna watch it for the first time. Yeah. As it is. Yeah. Like, I heard they gate she knocked out Barboza, and I was like. Wow. Holy didn't. She that haven't plenty God. Oh my God. Keiichi savage. He's a savage, man. He's got a special kind of savagery. There's some you know, like, I guess it's all judged on a spectrum. There's dudes just so ferocious. They're just so we'll Wade into battle to get into engage and. Yeah, that guy just engages. It's a weird willingness to engage almost go almost fearless willingness to engage. Thank you like when he's in there getting that's when it seems like he's at his happiest. Yes, crazy. Yeah. I ref like that. I like I I read a lot of fights in in Russia. So a referee to fight with this guy of byline of Murad by versus Solomon menus for championship. ACA man. These these guys went to war. He he heard him early on and had him, you know, almost put out and then he came back by loss. But it was his his mean as an older he's over forty pushing the pressure and made a really a year. But you get I saw that energy come out like when he was struggling through the hard times, you could tell that like, you know, some sort of battle joy was on him. You know, I mean, he's that kind of guy battle valley joy. You hear it like, oh, he's in you know, battle joys real shit. Yeah. That'll joy Diego. Sanchez is all full of battle joy. Yeah. Yeah. I guess ample. It didn't die with the Vikings. People are experiencing battle droids. Oh, yeah. There's my man right there. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Just look at a fucking bodies covered in blood, you know, happiest happy as they can be damned that dude's faces busted up. Yeah. It's did you see the bare knuckle fighting haven't watched any of them yet. I watched some exchanges between just it's hard to watch. It's weird. I I was a big proponent of bare knuckle, I was like they should fight bare knuckle because it's ridiculous. You Pat up only your gloves. But you don't Pat up your elbows knees, but. Jason ninth versus Artem Lobov. Was it was a weird fight to watch. I mean, they beat the fuck out of each other. I heard both came out of it super cut up, man. Like a lifetime's worth of cuts in one fight. Yeah. And you saw that. It's like I think it's going to be looks like the chess other faces that looks like it's going to be some long hailing. Yeah. Man. I mean, these guys beat the shit out of each other bare knuckle, and it's it is kind of weird that you do recognize first of all they're not really their bare knuckle, but they're not bear wrist like color, hands are all wrapped up to prevent them from breaking which is it's interesting. It shows us how fragile our hands. Really are. No, no. Yeah. And so that's why I didn't really think that a bare knuckle was going to be that I knew. That more intense. But when I'm seeing some of these matches, they are really intense. But at the end of the day, I think the bottom line still the most dangerous weapons. I think our elbows knees, right? Yeah. For cuts for sure. And for damage. I mean, males eased it John Jones hit Brandon VERA meals elbows Jonjo hit. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. No chums from the mount position from the top. He's got some of the most horrific elbows of all time even not even from the from the guard right from anywhere. Yeah. Remember Tito, Ortiz never pass card. Never pass guard. Just beat everybody up from inside the guard smashed him from. He was an expert. Joe shillings last fight. He cut that dude up real bad off from inside the guard of horrible ground and pound with his elbows. Yeah. Yeah. But I think for the most damage it's like, I think it's like a wheel kick to the head. Yeah. Like, that's the most like when you remember when bar Boza fought, Adam. Yeah. Yeah. That's like the most damage. No the wheel kick to the head is. And that's man that. Yeah. Who who used to do that? We'll kick to the head. He just fought guy. He's from Canada. Oh from Canada. He just fought. But he didn't do a wheel kick. He didn't do it. He's a kid. Everybody would spinning back kick, and he's UFC guy or. Yeah. Sh short thick guy. Is it MC Desi Jami dozen? Yeah. John McCain does he's a taekwondo guy people. He cut a couple of people with spinning back kick around. Probably I mean, he's caught people with a lot of stuff. He's got a full kicking arsenal. But yet originally taekwondo background. Yeah. It's it's it's amazing that you're seeing all these different styles that I it still even all these years in. There's all these different styles of fighting like they're completely different. You got like the Ben aspirin style. Still just grab a hold of them use superior wrestling beat his ass. And then you got style bender stock. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Full-on super technical striker trick in you send traps, you know, like as a person who loves striking like, it's a it's an interesting time. The so much variety so much on SO koso-, many things come back, and they go back and forth. And there's all these things that people are telling you, you're not supposed to do this. Or this isn't going to work, and then someone comes up and shuts down to this is gonna work. And so it's it's it's so it's always so exciting. How about that Russian, dude? What is his name the guy that only Nick who less people with the fucking? He gets people that Zeki from the mount you're Zeke heels you. Yeah. Yeah. All the time. Right. Yeah. Zeke amount. He gets it from from your guard getting your guard. He equals you. And he's. Yeah. And that's exactly a guy. Like, he's that guy. Who who everybody's? Yeah. That is a crazy grip. The way does you could see how tight it is. That is amazing that he does he has gripped like, no. Because he I mean, he he does scarf chokes to Scarpa jokes that people. He's done it to quite a few. And I've seen he laces it up a little different thing. He did want and. But he he does stuff that nobody else does scarf. Hold chokes are legit. You gotta remember like Josh Barnett tapped out dean Lister with Scarlett yet. He, but he I think he's done to people with that. Right. He's the did that one he did one guy in the UFC with it. And I think he did it to to CRO cop. I've refereed him in CRO cop in Russia in Moscow, and he he's did on the CRO cop. Yeah. That's carful choke. If you've got a real like, you know, that guy only Nick does that kind of death grip? Yeah. Those guys that which brings us to the last fight man, death, death grip. Yeah. That Ben asc-certified, dude. I watched that fight. I've watched that finished like ten times trying to figure out what happened or whether it was out or whether he wasn't out. I was pretty convinced that at one point time he went out and then tomorrow, use Mont changed my mind Kamar, use mon- showed the we watched the videotape together. He's like, no, no he's giving the thumbs up. My shots. Yeah. Okay. So I'm still because the angles I've seen haven't been the best. I'm trying to this. Thumbs up was the thumb going up or was the thumb in thumbs up position going this way. Right. Like on as the armed drops was. Okay. So when I give somebody thumbs up like say somebody wanted job you want. This job, buddy. Good job. That's what that's what I wanna do. You know? I I mean, I don't know. Like, I mean, I saw one of them's nobody's going to know whether he was conscious or unconscious what I saw. I saw everything that would indicate. I'm seeing an unconscious fighter. I see an armed go lymph for no reason whatsoever. And so that's what I that's what I have to work with because that's what you know. We don't know what someone's feeling whatever we just see if they're doing something. It doesn't make sense. And you see an arm. Go limp. At that time, you're gonna -ssume that the person's unconsciously assumed it. Yeah. As the broadcast team, and that I'm supposed to do certain things. And like, so here's the thing with that choke when I'm refereeing fights. You know, there's some sometimes where you know, some positions are like, you know, you see two guys going after leg locks you see a noodle mess of legs. And you know, you gotta you're going to have to help one guy out and figure out who's happening. Make sure you're on the right on when I see some chokes rear, naked choke. Specially guy in the back face. Up. I take a sigh of relief. My job just got so much easier. This guy, you know, it's not like he's going to go out. And then a second take some extreme amount of damage. He may go out. I'll have a second to make sure it's not even a second a half breath to make sure he's okay. And then let it go out, and he's not gonna take any other damage. A bulldog. Choke we have anytime you have a choke where somebody's where where there's pressure on the neck, and they're spending been in the cease by backwards like that that's a that's a rough situation from me. So I see someone go limp. And I know that on top of it. They're no longer putting tension on their neck and their neck is just being bad. I can't I you know, I can't see that. I should do something different than that. Because that's the I like to talk to people about this. I like to talk to people have opinions about fights, especially people who are interested in who they know what they talking about. Because if I always have a situation, if I always have in mind mindset that I'm always doing the right thing. I can't get better. So I'm going to have to look at something and say is there a teachable moment? There's a way I can learn from this and as their way, I could do something different. And no, I don't I think with that same situation with a arm going limp with that type of choke on someone. I don't know of a defense that requires the aren't you know, what I mean? I I would think to arm should be doing something else. I at this. Time. I don't I don't see that. I should do something different. You know? I'm always interested in always looking and always I love these type of conversations. But right now, I can't think of you know, and they sell you something. It was an amazing fight. It was. Yeah. It was isn't. I mean, I was the first time I've seen I've refereed been aspirin. I don't think I'd refereed in before. And you know, when you're his his pressure something special. It's not the normal and the way Robbie dealt with it and Robbie had him in. He hadn't been trouble. You know? I was so close to stop in that fight when they're on the ground. Yes. So many times. It was a bomb. Yeah. The amount of respect I have for those two athletes, man. It's like, so that's so that's the thing is, you know, we never want to see anything that could make you have a feeling that it's inconclusive. But I can't think of what else I should have done. But you know, I mean, especially for that that fight for those two guys. You know, you always want to. Yeah. The people that have a feeling of conclusion there. Well, when we talked about on the phone when you brought up the the the damage the possible damage that neck with the bulldog, choke, you might be cutting off nerves, and you might be bending the spine kinda fucked up way, I really hadn't considered that. When not what I was thinking of the joke when he grabbed hold them. I was just thinking it was a blood choke. But you're right. Like the way you lean in on hold all choke. You lean back. Yeah. That's a lot of pressure on the neck. I've had some chokes where there I've refereed. If I were a guy did one of these moves, I you had to move for it a technique where he's been in the spine. Twister wasn't a twister that I think guys have been named for that s accuser is. So that's what it was. That's what experience people the what that is is like if a guy is not to cut you off. Okay. So for so long. I've never really wanted to talk about it because people weren't doing it is years ago. I saw it. But now if there's a name for it. I guess it's okay. But you hadn't seen a lot of people doing before. Right. Well, we we started doing it in tenth planet a few years back. It's I think people have done it. What it is basically, folks. It's like a guillotine from the back. It's like taking a rear naked choke cooks. But instead of choking guides this way, which is how you would do it, which is wrap your form underneath his neck and raft the other arm behind his head instead of doing that, you wrap your arm all the way around the front like a guillotine hold. But from the back, and you have ungodly leverage, right? It's ungodly how much pressure you can put on someone's neck and our front Scott. Epstein he he used quite a few times. So we call it the executioner is that they're I'm trying to find a picture of one. No, this is this is the executioner choke. This is a different Shoko. He calls it the EPs accuser. Nothing came up. I okay. I think I might have have a have it here for the Stockton. Like this. This is a little different this guy had arms in this is different. But it's similar. Yeah. Similar though. Similar? Yeah. You could have arms in. Yeah. That's the same thing. Yeah. This is it that's one hundred percent. So. I don't know. We're gonna show people that. Either way it's a real bad place to be in. Okay, got it. Yeah. That's okay. Scott. Epstein that's the north south choke or is. But what he would do if he wanted to do an executioner is he would get his hips underneath the guy and get back position. This is just a a really good north-south show. So yes, so what I saw the guy went north south. And he this was years ago at king of the cage in way on Wisconsin. And he had wow, this is a long long time ago. He had north south and he sat up once he he had the guy he sat up and pulled the guy's body up onto him almost a city position. And then put hooks right? And then I've done it before where you all roll the guy to the side just to walk through and figure out how how it worked. He put hooks and I will sit in. I was like, okay. This is an illegal. If I stop this fight. It's not, you know, this is not an illegal move. But I don't wanna see how this plays out and the guy got one hook in and almost a second hook was about to go in the guy tapped. And when I pulled him off the guy couldn't move whose neck was fucked up. Yeah. He couldn't move, you know, he had some sort of sting. I don't know. What's going? He he was he couldn't move. He was terrified I was terrified. And then kind of you know, Kim back and came back. She is. Yeah. I know of several guys that have gone paralyzed because of defense from guillotine or trying to take God. Now when right. Yeah. You know when someone gets team. Yeah. I've heard of that. Yeah. So so that's why with some submissions. You know, especially some of the folks it's like okay things are slowing down in. Okay. Things got a little bit easier for me with that one. Things are not easy at all. That's not something that I wanna I wanna play with. I think if you know, I'm kind of disappointed with some some of people have a platform. I don't want us mentioning names. But some people have a platform of kind of toss it out. It was something sensation on say. Oh, look at this is he'd wrong or right? I think that's a little bit responsible. When it's some dangerous techniques like that. Well, I think you really pointed that out about the neck in a very important way. And I think that's something that people should really take into consideration. When you see someone you've seen people view of refereed someone we got caught a twister. Yeah. It's a horrible. Claims to be. Yeah, it's a horrible place to be it's so you're so fucked up and there's so much pressure. And the fact that you're that you're left legs isolated and your heads getting pulled it feels like it's going to break its place. It'd be even for the fact of the way it set up because it's not like, it's it's not like a fast thing that catches you off guard. It's a long road to. So you know, what? You know, it's coming and you're like doing this. But I know how this is gonna probably end and you're doing some little. Yeah. There's a chance I'm Joan green zombie. I think he got the first ever one on Leonard Garcia. I think I see that. And so horrible, dude. That is so that is so bad that feel so terrible. Yeah. And that that's a he then his Defcon four when you take a rear, naked, choke grip from the twister position. Oh, yeah. Yes. Isn't that? Just you just and dudes heads off. It's horrible. You know, all those crazy like catch wrestling, neck manipulates. Right. Right. Those things make my my neck hurt. Just looking at them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway. Yeah. That's that's what I think, you know, you can't always say look at things as good or bad. But you know, some situations I've seen referees. And and that one I think is a difficult situation. Not so I've seen other harder situations. But you know, what? I mean like, yeah, it's an unusual one. Yeah. I mean, we've seen quite a few bulldog chokes that put someone on conscious. Most recently Raquel Pennington against Ashley Evan Smith. Raising fight. Crazy fight for Cal Pennington so fucking tough. I mean that was just that was crazy fight, man. Just war and chaos, and then would like one second to go. She chokes her out. And then let's go, and she's she's asleep from the bulldog, choke and Ashley Evan Smith steps up covered in blood and yukking crazy. That was crazy. But there's that one didn't Chris lights out Lytle catch Tiki in a bulldog. Choke I think he did anymore. We're gonna Carla's noon of. Yeah. That's the the. Yeah. That that looked really tight. Yeah. Go forget that Goto. That's the word Carlos Newton chokes out Pat militants because this is for the title, and he caught him in a bulldog choke in. And it's like that was that was I don't think we had a name for it. We used to call it a schoolyard headlock somebody called it a bulldog choke at that time. I remember people were calling bulldog. Oh, like they already had that. And I don't know if it had there. Maybe they gave it to. Yeah. It's a legit move. Like, it's a legit move. Especially if you're a band aspirin type do that kind of grip. Right. Someone's neck in that position. Yeah. Yes. Horrible. Yeah. That was that's why say that referees have the hardest job. Because you're you're in that situation. You do have to take those things in consideration. What kind of damage is this doing this guy's neck is he out his his arm went limp? Okay. When do I I gotta get gotta save him. Like, yeah. No. That that is the top part about it. You know, you were evaluating situation. As always there's different that, you know, you're valuating the threat to the person evaluating if there's a threat coming you. How much how well can they deal with it? There's a lot of stuff on there. And you know, we take it really serious. I take it really serious. It's to me. It's it's I feel that I have a sacred trust. I feel that it's one. These positions that like, our athletes are not stupid people. A lot of them could be doing a lot of things with their life. And they've chosen this path to and they take time from their family. They take time away from other careers where they could be progressing and all to meet their dreams and hopes and I need to balance that with their safety. So it's something I think about a lot you know, what I mean? I'm even in the way, I talked to my friends. You know, what I mean to always, you know, I'm always on. I'm always working as a referee anytime out in the streets or with friends people are going to ask me. What do I think about this fighter who I think can be better than I because of his job you're doing you don't longer have the the luxury of heaven, you know, of talking about mixed martial arts in the fun way about who's going to win and houses going to happen. Because knows I might referee the fight. Right. Right. Everyone's going to be on the internet like hers refereeing the fighting. We're having beards yesterday. And guess what? He told me. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. It's just, you know, so yeah, I take it serious. No. You do it. I'm glad you have that out to what is this. One right here. Oh, yeah. This is this is Carl's right here. Yeah. Yeah. In the transition. He grabs the neck, and it's a crazy visual too. Because the photograph the free rights right there right there. I that is crazy muscles and Carlos his arm and shoulder and neck that calls Newton champion of the world. Right there that moment and that crazy Carlos had some spectacular grappling real early on men wild transition. Jitsu his his his explosiveness agility, and he was just so athletic. He was doing stuff that no one else. Yeah. He also had a really high level submission game early on. Yeah. We're like in ninety six ninety seven a lot of people didn't have that kind of game in his submission game. Was tight the Matt Hughes. One was crazy. Remember that? Yeah. That was crazy that techy choke where you had him up. And. Yeah. Yeah. That was he puts them to sleep on as they get up. Matt Hughes like his you. Here's coroner saying like stand up you one you want. He's like what happened? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Double knockout. Yeah. That one I have one that king of the cage a double knockout is right here. This is look how guy takes wrong Hughes was he was so fucking strong. That builds them up there. And Carlos is trying to sell it. He's he's squeezing squeezing. So Matt goes unconscious. He's out cold. He doesn't know what's going on. No one knows what's going on. And they they they so Carlos his head hit the ground when he went down like that. And then knocked him out. Right. Right. Right. And then Matt woke up from the joke, and they're like you want go. It's great. That was a crazy scene. That was a tough one. That was what do you do there? Yeah. Well, that was like the thing about this. Robbie Lawler Penasco fight like use mine was saying they gotta run it back. And I was like it wouldn't be a bad thing to run it back. I mean, well at the same time, you know, we gotta be honest here like as far as running back. How many the fights? Is that happened the UFC are there because it's exciting. What people wanna see Joe most? Right. So Brock listener DC's, a perfect example. Right. So that's exciting. As people wanna see it. And some of the statement has been generated by throwing me under the bus. But cou. The people another time. I take it. I got Greg right? But yeah. No. So yeah, I think you know, anytime that, you know, the athletes get to do what they do and people are gonna watch it again and people are going to be excited about it. You know, I don't know. Well, I don't think it's going to happen now at least not immediately because MAs Vidal and Ben aspirin have a date for July. They're going to do that July show in Vegas. That's a great fight. I liked that fight a lot right? That that fights that's Mazda dolls and a new place. Man. You could really tell. Yeah. He's something special right now. He something really special when he knocked out Tillich. Whoa. We knocked out Cowboys. Wow. Yeah. No muss with those Bs. He's so good, man. And he seems like extra focus right now. You know, I think he's probably like what is he thirty five somewhere in that showed. How old is where I must with all he's either thirty four thirty five. He's coming onto. I haven't them on the podcast soon. Sturdy five in November. Yeah. So he's at that stage of his career. Where you kinda like look man how much more time. Do you got like realistically as a professional mixed martial arts fighter? Thirty five years of age. If you're Anderson, Sylvia, three more, would you have three more years of his prime two more years something like that right to be thirty eight thirty nine like, that's kind of it. You know, unless you're doing something unless you're doing something to spice up the pot. All right. You know, like forty forty one forty two manned Jeff tough to compete yet up to on the natch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a that's a whole nother. Teach thing bomber. That's it. If you don't know what we're talking about T J dillashaw tested positive for injectable EPO, which is serious performance enhancing substance. And in some circumstances. According to Jeff Novitsky, it's given people strokes, and I had heard this too that like young guys doing like tour de France type shit would have strokes because they were taking too much APO because you know, you're supposed to take one take to fuck it. Right. Right. Everybody right right tally couches. Couches anybody who's going to do that? You know, I should turns your your your blood to paint. And I think that's I guess that's probably the disciplined right of how people were always getting away with things before handwrite can try to maybe try to do it in a way where there won't get caught. But I think that's like this much is good and. Yeah, this much more. It's going to be better. Yeah. And we know guys who've done that with TRT, you know, there was a few TRT tests where they when TRT legal testosterone replacement therapy where you would hear about guys testing like fourteen hundreds fourteen seventy like, which is insane. It's like superhuman no person's ever lived at as fourteen hundred. A natural walking around testosterone level. That's crazy, hyper human, right, but they just get these benefits from that with some of these people who walk around naturally. I wonder if they never been tested. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Some of these people I see walking around like generics. Looks like he was born on stories. Yeah. There's some freaks men is some legit genetic freaks to deny that would be crazy. There's some people that just like you'll Romero what in the fuck. It doesn't matter. How many steroids you take? It doesn't matter. What you do like to do look like that you have to be a genetic freak. And they're out there around. It's not fair who you're talking about. He would say go to Cuba. Jeans. Go see the genes look around. Yeah. What's his name? The fighter from France heavyweight from France. I mean, he pressing Gano Francis. In Ghana wasn't a guy who used to be the one who had the the crazy fat would Pat Pat berry. I'll check Congo check Congo. Oh, yeah. Donnas. Yeah. Sculpted Greek statue, he's always imagine. Like, I wanna go to where he comes from take a look around probably soup wrath -letes probably a lot of meteors the teacher thing. Apparently, they went and tested his old fight pissed with Cody too and that tested positive for EPO's. Well, and then Cody start freaking out. Yeah. What do you do if they if they go back like what are they decided to go back? Hey, say fuck it. Let's test all the fights. That finds out that he was doing it like five six seven fights. What do you do? While. Yeah. And then what do you do if you, but then the whole nother can of worms too because like all the fights. And then what about all because? Right. We test. Everybody chat. Brandon Shaaban joking around last night. And I was like test them all and he's going no task them all test everything. Let's find out. What's know what it was? Let's know what it was. And he's like what if they had piss samples from, you know, ten years ago fifteen years ago like what if they could use you Sada style testing day from the past. I'm so glad that all these things are above my pay grade. To deal with that. Yeah. Man. If I was in the office right now the in charge of that program. You have to really wonder where's the line? He certainly wanna test a guy for five that happened a week ago. He certainly want to hold in check his if some new testing methods come out if there was a fight from a year ago, you certainly would check that how many years back. Do you go though? Yeah. Especially if it's not expensive like what if it's easy and cheap today test. So yeah, it's run five hundred tests and the last five hundred championship fights. And then you have four hundred fights. They now have to change the result of. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know either. Yeah. Yeah. I was joking about saying test them all I was taking the the fun position test to mall. I don't know. I mean, look we all know at one point in time performance enhancing drugs were huge part of makes martial arts. And that's why the UFC stepped up and decided to institute this program thing was a big part of. I think it's a big part of professional sports in general. Sure. One hundred percent. Yeah. And I think that, you know, combat sports, you know, has a government oversight that other sports don't have. So I think that we're con we're going to be it's going to be coming up, regardless. Anyway. So I think maybe that's why the, you know, the UFC took a position, right? I think of the other sports I mean, guys get caught doing things. But a lot of the other sports regulate themselves, right? Yeah. I don't know. I think the NFL regulates itself. What others what are sport has a governor body like Athletic Commission, saying, hey, we're going? I show up and do this or do that. I don't know. What do they do with baseball? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know much about other sports. But I I didn't I've never I've never heard. I've never heard of like a we all know about we, you know, that's something different. Our sport is involved commission would not not not like he's saying government commission. But yet they're governing themselves NFL would have a vote. The hint on suspension, they're not fair from this this guy suspension at that guy suspension in baseball. They have like a three strike rule. The first time as like somewhere in the ten to twenty five game range, and then the second one is like half the season one for whole year. And if you do it again, you're banned, but there's no outside getting body. Right. Who shows up and decides to test champion, right? Just the baseball or NFL and basketball. Right. When what's say, you have a big moneymaker in your sport? And then somebody outside of your company just comes along says. Yeah, I I'm government by they have the right to test this guy. Yeah. Like what happened John Jones? I mean, that's that's a perfect example. Apple. I mean, the did not want John Jones to test positive. He is the biggest star right now. Other than Connor and Connors, not active and John Jones fighting all the time. He wants to fight all the time that if that's, but that's the only way you ever find out. What's really going on? Is you hire a bunch of where wolves and he just let him loose right way. Go check piss go go out there. Check check everyone. They checked shit out of people. I was looking at this list of people that Holly homes been tested more than I think. The I think Novitsky might have put steep abo chick tweeted because he'd been tested thirty eight times. Really? Yeah. Some people's like in the forties. Chris cyborg got tested a lot. Yeah. Holly home got tested a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Holly home got tested a lot. A lot of people got tested. It's just a. Crazy numbers. And a lot of them are guaranteed their waking them up. Yeah. Get them up like six in the morning this with this whatever I mean, I don't know what they go. But I've heard conversations a little bit is doesn't seem like they want to make sure your there. So. Early in the morning. That's fucked up. You're supposed to tell them where you're supposed to where you're going to be at and think. Yeah. Yeah. The problem is if you're training hard that eight to ten is so huge might get hit with a punch if they wake you up after like, six hours or five hours. It's possible. That a punch might connect on. You wouldn't have connected if you got eight that's not brush. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's real. That's real real. Everybody knows when you how you feel good in the gym everybody. Even if you just lift weights, there's days, you feel good as days you feel like crap. I made sure I showed up here. Well rested. You look well, and I'm hydrate. I'm like we get back. I did I did hydrate. Yeah. I don't know. It's just it's it's just not smart to stop athletes in the middle of their training camp. Wake up. Yeah. I mean, I get the testing, but I feel like the testing so sophisticated you could get to them at noon. Okay. Just you can get to them noon. You got good testing now. But we don't we? I mean, I don't know that I don't know that either I'm talking shit. Yeah. Because I think the best time, right? The best time is that, you know, maybe the earliest earlier the better, right? Maybe I don't know the thing about this EPL apparently. And this is a shabas telling me was that they didn't didn't used to be a detectable the way it is. Now, they've they've got these new methods of detection and EPO's one to that. Apparently from what I've read don't listen to me. I'm not a doctor. They can absolutely tell that you injected it. It's it's injectable. It comes in the injectable form that's within the body. So it was no chance of tainted steroid or tainted. Supplement? Right, right. It's definitely EPO. So that's that's fucked up because apparently that stuff has giant advantage. It gives you an anabolic advantage. It also gives you crazy recoup recruit of powers. So like, you could train really hard. And then be ready to go the next day. What do you think the answer is? Because like for me like this is all stuff that like to be honest. I don't really pay that much attention to it. Because I don't have I lost. It's out of my will house to deal with. But also, it's hard to have an answer. Like you said like do we go back and keep testing? Then when these new things come insist, what do we do with the historical? Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's very interesting. You know, what do you do with the history books? That's what you'd say. Like at what point if you have samples that date back ten years to you? Do chest them all what do you do? I don't know. I don't know how long they keep samples or how who has them or how the you know, what the chain of command. I don't know, man. It's just, but if you find out that TJ tested positive for the Cody fight to what code each has an argument there. And what if it's the fight before that a lot of that was a lot of people have arguments. Yeah. There's a lot of guys. Yeah. So it's yeah. It's to me. It's a shame too because I'm a TJ fan. And I think he's a phenomenal fighter. And I'm a big fan of watching him perform. But just it taints his legacy. It just does is no way around it. When when you get caught cheating, which is this stuff is does no way. It's not cheating. I mean, this is just cheating. Right. I mean, this is in any accident. It's taints your legacy. Right. And the guy had an amazing legacy. You know to time bantamweight champion one of the best pound for pound fighters away. He beat Henin Barral holes. Like holy shit. He went out and fought hin Barral. He was sparring, right. Yeah. Yeah. His stuff the stuff. Some his fights were amazing. He's amazing doesn't take away from the fact that he's amazing teachers at amazing fighter but fuck man to test positive for EPO in Henry hudo. Fires also crazy to watch the progression. All the work. He did. And now much you know, he was getting better every fight. And so he falcons. Yeah. But you gotta think like how much like if you're on a PO how much does that really allow you to? Train extra time. How much does that allow you to recover? What's the Ben? What is the quantifiable benefit must be pretty significant? Because there's a lot of you know, the cyclists a lot of heavy duty, endurance athletes, use it and most wanna try it. You know, they say that these executives trying to doing EPO and entering into triathlons and shit like that for bragging rights. Yeah. Just assholes assholes with money or taking EPO, really. I was reading the thing about an epidemic of really boost you that much like, okay, you're going to take it. And you're going to notice that you're able to like like the other day you could barely finish a role a loop around the Rose Bowl of three mile loop. And then he started taking in you can get what five six miles in. I wonder I wonder I think what it does is raise your threshold. If you're already an elite, endurance athlete too. I think for them. That's what it is. It's like looking for that extra edge. So they're already an elite endurance athlete thirty in the tour de France. And they. Take that. And it's like just just Jackson up. They could just do more work. They have more oxygen? They don't run out of juice and forgot like TJ his style. So kinetic so much movement explosion sweet use dances. Like, he needs that juice. It's not like a calm easy game where he's you know, everything's fast fast fast fast fast. It's crazy. It's hard it. It's it's a hard one to swallow. Yeah. Mad? So for me like I was like man, I was gonna come on Joe Rogan show and see what was he could. He talk about to make me uncomfortable to talk about maybe some heart stoppages, man. I've talked about some heart stoppages. Give you what's the worst little let me talk about. When I made a mistake. I don't wanna talk about this. You know, just be I have no answer for it. And I don't understand that. It's like all wanted like, I just doesn't feel like a good conversation. Because all I could do is just it just like you said it's just going to take away from what I've seen of. And then the more imaginative about it. It's just going to be more take away. And then anything I could say or think about I can't think of anything that's solution or are says. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think anybody. I mean, I think we're in this stage right now where they're probably looking at the data going. Okay. What does this signify, and how many more people should we test? Once once they develop a new method of testing. That's the whole reason why they wanna keep the old samples anyway in case new more sensitive methods of detect him right are invent. And you know about this stuff because I know that you you're a science freak and you're saying especially dark, especially when it comes to anything that can enhance the this life that we have on this earth. So yeah, I'm sure you know, a lot about this stuff. I've had a a really amazing conversation with many people about it. And David Sinclair was one more recent ones who did discussion about life extension different anti-aging solutions and different things that they're coming up with. But what I've come through. With is at the other end is there. Are probably hundreds of thousands of people that are involved in either legitimate supplements or legitimate molecules or testing hormones on people or you know, trying all different things to try to figure out how to get the body to perform better some of them are legal and some of them are illegal. And that's where it gets strange. She get like the guy like the ball co guy. Victor Kante comes along live one. Just rub it on. No one's gonna no shit. They don't know what this stuff is yet. And for a while that worked, and then, but but on the while work everybody was like, why is berry bonds getting so big, you know, people just started wreck might come on, man. Look at me. Sammy Sosa look me in the eye. What are you doing, you know, and they all they all like exhibited, these obvious physiological changes where the you could tell them whatever they were doing was really affective stuff. There's hundreds of thousands of people working on that right now. All. The rent on all the time trying to get it better. There's probably thousands of people that are trying to come up with stuff that sneaks past this testing. You know, did you ever see? So I just stick the Bickram yoga mats. Good move. Did you ever see that ignorance documentary? I think I did was about who it was the Russian deal. Anton, did you see that one see the dive into that? It's amazing. It's amazing. The guy who made the documentary the whole thing sort of happened by accident. So a guy named Brian Fogel and his his documentary was on he was going to do a bike race. And then he was gonna come back the next year and do the bike race on steroids. And see what the difference was. And so he was going to document it all and he's going to have this Russian anti-doping guy. This guy was going to oversee his program. What to take and how much take when to take it doesn't get. It was. No, yeah. Make sure you didn't get caught that was one of them. I think I don't think they drug test. And most of the things that he was interested in doing. I think the thing is doing who just wanted to see how good he could get. Okay. Because you said anti Russian anti-doping. This is this is why this where it gets to in the middle of him doing this this Russian anti-doping guy. It comes out that the Russians cheated at the socio Olympics and his Russian anti-doping guy spills the beans to this guy and explains the Russian state sponsored doping program that they state-sponsored and doped all their athletes that everyone was on steroids and that they hid the urine. They had to separate lately. Let a C secret separate room where they transferred the dirty urine through hole in the wall and slipped out the good urine. They put it back in place. So they they substituted clean urine for the year. And that was collected. They opened up the bottles. They found these microscopic scratches on these supposedly unopened cap bottles, but they ran under microscopes, and they look they were scratched these these things have been open the Russians had figured out a way to open the bottle without cracking the seal did they they swapped piss. I mean, it was. Super sophisticated stuff. And this guy details all of it by accident just because he had hired this guy to give him drugs. So he could he was just trying to run a documented. Let's see how much better steroids. Make me at riding the bike. And when all the stuff broke he just came into the right place at the right time. And it's amazing. It's amazing. That's why Russia one like all these gold medals in the socio Olympics were all Jews to the tits. And you're saying all of them. Yes. It's just for me. Like, it's it's it's one of those things. I just don't have an answer to it. I know there's always going to be people who are going to look for an advantage. Yeah. And I think as long as some there's one person looking for an advantage. Then I think there's some people are going to have the attitude that if there's an advantage out there. I'm a fool for taking it the people who don't take it or people who are are gifted in some way or have just a work ethic that goes beyond and it's a matter of pride that they don't do it you like when you're sharp kid. You don't like amount of pride and never. On a test where some people that go to, you know, it's interesting. It's like what is what's legal, and what's not legal like, what should you be allowed to do? You. Should you be allowed to use cryotherapy? Would if it turns out the crowd therapy ramps up your hormones, would if it turns out of cryotherapy speeds up your recovery that's commensurate with a steroid. But why shouldn't you be able to use it you should be able to? But I'm I'm just saying because I think the basis of the is that some of these other things are supposed to be maybe dangerous for you EP. Oh, sure is that that's the reason. That's the base really. I think that's our base reasoning. Right. I think the base reasoning is cheating or no not just cheating because it's not cheating. If everyone's doing it. Well, for sure I mean supposed to dangerous stuff. So they. Hormones, but I'm talking about hormone like you can use vitamins or anything or you can have good nutrition. It's the mic sense anything that's gonna make you better. What you're doing? But there's ones that we don't want people to us because they're dangerous to us for those reasons is the I think that's supposed to be the reason. Right. I do not know if that reason makes sense, I know where that makes sense or not. But I think that's supposed to be the because we're what are they gonna win. Does it come out and say, well, we don't want you using any artificial supplements vitamins. We wanted to get all your vitamins from your food, which you're doing is you're getting some of your violence artificially, and it's not very human being gets it. So like there's a line that's being drawn somewhere. And I'm saying the line is being drawn at what is supposed to be saved one at one point. It got drawn it that. And then became something else. Maybe I don't know think if they were really concerned with safety. They wouldn't let them fight or we're not talking about sport. I know. But I mean, especially with fighting if you really concerned with safety. Let's just cancel the. Whole event like someone's going to get hurt. Well, there's a lot of things I said, you know, the we don't like the fighters to jump on top of the cage. Yeah. Unsafe leave just kicking each other kicking in the face. You know, they get down off that K celebrating the. Yeah. The celebrating thing is funny, man. Let them celebrate. And they don't like them to do a flip. Well, one guy, and he did a flip and landed on one guy did a flip and landed on someone. So I get that. But it's like man, I trust the guy to get kicked in the neck. But I'm not gonna trusting to do a flip. He's probably done a flip before. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know either. Gauge almost landed on guys last fight. Yeah. That's somebody else gets hurt. Now. I get that. What if you kill the doctor would have get how long how much suspension to you? If you kill a doctor with a backflip like for real imagine doctors running in and just going into hell, Dan, and it would be the ultimate worldstar video. Would debased with with Derek Lewis. What do you have that on his Instagram? Would he keep them as Instagram if someone died it was UFC? He might he's so savage. His Instagram's pretty funny Graham the game if you want I saw one the other day guy, a motorcycle on his Instagram drove right into a fucking telephone pole guy wasn't paying attention or something. He went off the side of the road and hit a fucking telephone pole full on. Oh. Oh, just slammed into this poll. Fuck man, I gotta stay off Derek's getting on to watch that kind of stuff. Yeah. You know, that guy's never going to be the same. He's either dead or is never going to be the same. Yeah. That's the one. I saw was that one. Resolve the guy was going to jump off a house into. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What happened hits that data be dead? A lot of them are dead. I madman. I've got something on my Instagram about the guy who got hit by dolphin. I just put that up there. The data saw somebody put it up. Gotta hit by a dolphin. Yeah. He was doing some powder burden as a dolphin was living life a little bit dolphin was doing this thing. So they're you know, how he's paddleboard out. There's a wave coming and then you can see the dolphins. You know, they like the surf so they get in the wave. They're doing their thing. And I think the dolphins sees him. He's the only one who decided to come out of the water and get a little air. He's like, oh, the paddle border get a little air how and he fucks them up. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Well, we this back. That's one hundred percent on purpose. Like it makes you wonder about dolphins. Like is. Like, oh, what an opportunity is one hundred percent on perfect. Yeah. I had I had to put that I had to post that on Instagram. Yeah. That guys. All right. Yeah. He's all right. Eddie fell in the water, fill the water. But a dolphins heavy. Yes. I checked. He's got a little side sidetracked. What do you do in that? Do you hit them? Do you hit the dolphin punch? It. No, I have respect. No. No. I but China fuck you like the dolphin guy the air. I'm like, look you have. Yeah. Because how much of the dolphin way? And it's his element is a big animal. Yeah. You gotta get back to the shore. That is pretty funny though. Yeah. Walked out one off walked out. Elbow it as it's coming out with a pissing wall in their neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah. And this is that's clearly on purpose. Yeah. That's clearly it was like you fucking dummies get out of the way bitch. Yeah. What are you doing? You. Don't even surfing. Yeah. He. Boarding. Surprisingly hard. I wonder if his friends laughed the other dolphins. Yeah. He's talking to. They probably thought it was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yet. I went paddle boarding. It's not easy. I didn't think it was hard. Did you stand? He was dating straight like this. You sh sh you, don't but I tried to hard. There was a lot of waves. And it was it was a little wobbly. But I was like I thought this would be ways eater. I felt twice. She was speaking following stop it, bro. Yeah. Paddle boarding is one of those things where it's like it's just used mostly easier core, right? I'm not an expert at I did it once or twice while I was in Hawaii, you know, hanging out with fam-. So if you got like placid water it actually calming. Paol more you ever serve. I've try. I'm going to do this year. I said some lessons taking some lessons did a little bit. I I've been up onto wave the water was pushing me, but I can't I can't call it surfing. What I was doing. But I was in the water. I was having fun. That's respectable thing to know. How to do? Yeah. Right. When you hear someone can serve like, well, no, I decided that I have to do it. I've been living in California, all my life. I'm paying to be a surfer. I'm I live here. Pay the surfing to the surfing tax. But I'm not going to the beach and getting my money's worth. I gotta go and get it. Yeah. When we think about how many people live in LA how few actually go to the beach, right? Yeah. Beach is not that crowded now person I fucking people here. It's one of those things where people just take it for granted. Yeah. So would you serve? No. You know? I'm scared of sharks. Yeah. So I started the quest last year. So last year it took a couple of. So this gets a little warmer. I'm gonna do it. Again. We were thinking about doing a surfing challenge for so Brock Tober who was going to be like time spent up on a board for the entire month. Song contest. Are you going to be doing? We we haven't decided. And I think the guys are. They don't wanna do the surfing thing. If you do it. Let me know I'm gonna do it with you. Yeah. Oh, cold knocked-over. Wouldn't it? Maybe. Yeah. That's the idea pussy. Okay. All right. Come on. I'll freaky fear. Did you see the code enough Tober barely? It's like AC cassette timber happening with this happens. Very fast the way I saw this is a navy. French navy men jumped off a boat to celebrate as he's in the water here. A shark comes after them. It just comes out of nowhere. They can't no one can really see it and all of a sudden. Right. The last second spot it and they're like oh shit. Get the fuck out of the way, it just nibbles got foot a little it almost looks fake. But the way your accent ships faking hall it just happened. All of a sudden, he's just in the water, man. That's how it goes. That's their world look at you can't even see anything in the that's the thing that freaks you out. The most about the ocean is the possibility it's like you just look down. You don't see it God damn thing. And also the. Meg. Yeah. I'd like that Australia guy. Remember that stray surfer and the shark was coming after him, and he was just pushing him away. He was and then when he talked about his while he was looking like he wanted to bite me. I decided I didn't want him to. So I just push him away a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just bought off a shark. He's like, yeah. I didn't want to be bitten. So that's a good attitude. Not interested in this. I'm not freaking out. But. I wanna be bit. You don't wanna freak out? Right. She freak out. They they probably can sense it. She really spas out in the water. They probably know this scared as fuck. Guy, smells like food. They apparently don't like to eat us. Is this the guy right here? Eight million views great white shark surprises, solitary surfer. I haven't seen this with. It's not the one I'm talking about. Right. I'll be some nut. Don't look right behind him. Oh, Jesus Louise's. Surf. No, I think he saw he's like your ex. Oh, man, but he's paddling his arm looking feel with every time he paddles the arm could disappear on him. She's going to serve. Five five five five bucks. But you so helpless in their world. It's like you ever. See what happens when a shark gets beached? I was looking for this video today, we found that one where you're like what just pick it up and throw it into water. There's a video I saw a girl literally doing that. Just like a check in a bikini. There's a smaller shark, but she just grabbed till exit. Good for the problem was with the one you can't sharks. Don't just start swimming. When they get put in the water, they need to be like they can't stop moving. Really? They got to have a little shove. An it's hard to do to they had to drag that shark out by boat to sort of get it going to get a runner and its gills. So it can breathe and oh to them accents. Because what has got to come this way to sharks are super weird in terms of their physiology? Like if they go upside down to go to sleep, right? Yeah. And it's strange and they have to keep moving. I don't think they can breathe if they sit still this. They find a spot where there's a nice little drive. Right. Right. Right. Also happen to I can't show this either because this is going to get taken down. But it's a girl getting pulled into the water. She's trying to feed a shark off of a boat in a grabs her by the finger and just Yanks her and oh JI and everybody freaks out also fast. But what kind of shark is it at doesn't say. But also Australia. So it might be a great way block that understand. Why does she think she could FINA shark with her fingers told her she could and that was bad idea? Yes. That's that's the worst. You know, you're probably right. Because you know, like when you when you haven't done it before you're gonna make you're going to ask a reasonable question can the shark bite me and pull in and there's going to tell you something an expert voice. Like, no, he's not interested in you. You don't look like a seal he's not going to try to, you know, brought you plus she's probably hanging out with like three or four dudes wanna fuck. They're all drunk yet. They wanna show her a good experience. So I was giving her bad advice. She gets Hafer finger removed block then. Nobody's happy. Yeah. You do you like going to Russia so much? I do. I do dean join up there. Yeah. I do time a lucky let me say. Well, I like I like travelling so this is a cool thing I've got to travel so much. I've got to see a lot of really cool places and. Russia's one of them. I like goes all the different places, I've been there Saint Peter's because Russia and one thing is it's like America, lots of different places wherever you are like, you know, this America to some people could seem like a different country, different states over shimmer. Yeah. So it's like that. So I got to go to Moscow Moscow's one thing. You know, you get to there's a lot of history. A lot of nice things to see Saint Petersburg same thing. Do you feel safe when you're over there? Well, I take everything at face value. So that that's the way I go through life. Because if I was trying to always read some undercurrents or read what people tell me I'm supposed to experience, I'm not I'm never going to do anything. I a long time ago. My travels, my my I was going to go do wanna butter being show down in Alabama. And my parents were like man, you're going Bama man, be safe down. There be doing all that stuff. You do you know, it's going to be different. Because of you know, American our history. System and. I went down there. And I was, you know, this is a mind tell the story this story. So I went down there. I was I was at the show, and then some cops come up, and they look like the cops from you know, in the movies from the south that supposed to scare you, and I took a picture with them. And they're like and somebody else came to take a picture while look what we started going minimum do this on this. What I'm here to hang out with people and referee fights him, you know. Talk to people, I'm gonna talk. So I took a lot of pictures Aaron press they're saying that you know, they've seen other people. You know, you know, tell people know about pictures and the guy all side, they're like, hey, we want to come out and pull people with us. This. No, no. I don't want do have no interest in doing that. You know? I I grew up in LA you're gonna like they're like and they're getting pumped like imagine. Like, you're getting pulled over by herb dean pitch. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, no, no. I don't wanna do it in these. Then one goes well. Well, some do something. I mean, we're gonna make this do some taes me or something hurt me. So like, he grabs his his taser gun and sticks to tailor my hand Jesus Christ. And I'm like, so I started pays them, right? This guy. He's like. Mike. So then I after the tasting his by one of the agents, one of the guys was work with me comes up and tells them he has some business to talk about when I go away. What'd you wanna talk about? It goes, man. I could see your so uncomfortable with what was going on that. I just went. I was like, thanks. I get back to I give back to my hotel room. And I I think and I was like man, you know, I'm worried about people prejudging and being intolerant. I'm prejudging of these guys because of some history, and these guys are really cool. If I ever get the opportunity seized guys, I'm going to be you know, man, and I did they came like right there in the phone rings. I swear and they took me to an after party. And really like, yeah. They took like and it was like the place Louis like roadhouse. And you know, what I mean like everything you see like in a movie like like, you know, some, you know, your wife's not going to be happy about that. And and I'm gonna catch you next week one of those type of things, right? Yeah. Drove me to the airport with the lights on good. Yeah. I think I think I have the picture Mutasa. Mike you show it. It was it was like it was a pretty cool experience. So after that, I was like man, whatever I think, I know about things I really don't. And so so I take things at face value. The I've had good times in Alabama. I've had good times in the south. I think the world is changing to really do think. There's the parts of especially this country. We almost everywhere you could find copay. So so yes. So I mean, if you know, oh my God. That is hilarious. So so that should put this on your Instagram. Can you can they wouldn't mind I've talked to those guys about it. Don't you think he's gonna get in trouble though? He's not gonna eat said, he's fine. He said, it'd be all right. I thought it would getting trouble though, he has. That's why haven't on. That's why I never did. But I've actually. So anyway, this that that. Yeah. That's a big lesson to me. Like, hey, don't don't don't think, you know, what's going on, you know, taking face value. Try to be you know, you know, when you go to Russia, you take that out to like, let's just see what the experience you have your own experience. What russia's? Yeah. I'm gonna have my own expansion outlet. It'd be what anyone else's and also I been the Russia before I went in ninety five I used to work for a company that made documentaries these guys, and I ended up going along to help them out with the first time I'd ever left the US his a big head a big affect on me. So I do, you know, speak it. No, no, no. I can do. I can do my instructions in an I know some words I mean, I took some time to learn how to use the alphabet. So I can get around. It's crazy. A and so like Celtic ancient. So really, I read his call is that what it is a guy named surreal. So I thought what how the surreal, but it's actually named after a guy who made it. That's the the. The Russian stuff. What does that Celtic stuff that? You know that you know. Oh, yeah. Those those rooms the ruins or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Letters in Russia, like why is it that why would they do it backwards? And it's the same letter that we have. But it's backwards. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's your you're talking about is that what it is. He has the one that looks like a backwards are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's what they that's what does that stand for over. There. Just means ya ya. And we use it like that. Yeah. That chaos. So that's how you say. I you say look at their fucking language or what's up with that age? What's up with that upstate? And h is the end what that's how you use it in. Oh my God. So that when you so once you get used to read it to you, you always see Petco pie everywhere you go. Right. What's that? Limited restaurant upside down little age two looks like a candle holder. Yeah. Right. There was that. Yeah. That's upside down h what happened there why somebody took that ancient dumped on its head. But but it looks like h doesn't it? Yeah. You flipped it up. Down. It's wick they'll look at the e below that. Like what the fuck is that thing? And so that's a yard that the backwards are. Yeah. Yeah. So you would say you would use it like ya and say that word when you use it like like just how we use. I o I we usually like I, and then we might use it in another reason to you while. Yeah, through I mean, it is kind of amazing. How different the way we write is to the way Asian folks do that real freak out that and I. I think you just have to learn it, right? Each of them. And you have to learn each and every one of those there it looks like it's pretty hard to learn. Well, it looks especially if it's not completely ingrained in your memory as a child. Yeah. Because up late in life. I know there's some people who speak Mandarin. But they can't right? Yeah. Right, right. Yeah. Fuck it's alien alien. I mean, the fact that whole different side of the world rights that way in these little characters. So I do have some help. When I go there. I'm going to tell you I got married a few years ago, and my wife is Russian. There you go, and she speaks Chinese so tiny reason rights Chinese. So when we go to these countries, we end writes this easier. Wow. And anguish or no, yes. So we get along. Some people are good with languages, man. That's incredible Spanish is better than mine. Already got here to have Russian which has its own use the alphabet and then Chinese. Yes is another whole deal and English just to chev- room and our head for anything else. I know hard-drive would be full. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is those three languages like fuck, three hard language is right. Probably the the Russia's hard and English. What am I going gonna say hurt? I tried to limit trying to learn it. It's hard. There's so many ways to say something they conjugate a lot. I think they a lot more than Spanish grill. And that's what I have problems with. You know, we all get Spanish words, we live in LA, but conjugated verge, you know, she can do it easy because he's like all because they come to Kate so much more. Yeah. It's that's this might be the three hardest language to learn outside of maybe the other other Asian languages Japanese pretty difficult. Vietnamese is tough. Yeah. And then, you know, you got those languages that. You look at while. It's and then you see like ancient Hebrew. Yeah. Look at Hebrew language. Like the way they write like what the final. No, I bet Arabic's tough Arabic's. Gotta be tired. I mean. How many languages are there? If you had to guess yeah hundred. Yeah. Hundred doesn't dialects and depending on where you are even Mexico. There's different speak the same Spanish on there, even Spanish she had like you can under like because I took a couple of Spanish classes. Right, but I can understand people from from, you know, Spain easier for some reason I grew up right here. It's hard for me to understand the the way they speak Spanish, my friend lives in my friend. Adam green tree he lives in Australia. And he has a lot of experience with like the indigenous people that live there because he works in a mining company, and they deal with a lot of the aborigines, and they have the the groups of people they call the mobs. That's what they call themselves instead of like a village or clan or the called self a mob. That's what that's what averageness us, and they have different languages for different moms. So there might be hundreds of mobs in this area, and they all have different languages. So you drive. How close his few miles. I go few miles. You know, he'd say kilometers. It me twenty hundred kilometers like -sego one hundred kilometers, and you got a totally different language. Oh, that's all the different languages that map of all that. Maybe they're similar right areas of the mops. I don't believe. So I think they don't know what the fuck each other saying, right, right? That's why we can't understand a stray Williams, right? If you look at that. That's crazy. I don't know who's documenting all this stuff in what whether or not they've saved these languages, and they they have because it's very likely that like little ones of them will just go. You know, if there's people assembling other populations or move out like you might lose these languages about going to Russia to because there's so many different cultures, and so many people and I liked it. I liked people. Like, I get I get like I get to go to Grozny and been to visit Dagestan to Grozny Chechnya. Yeah. Like, it's really it was a really cool place. I want to show you some pictures went to a went and looked him out. Well, because it's for me, what's really cool about it is the energy that people have about developing over there right now because the place there was a war there. You know about that? Right. Yeah. There was a war and right now, and they're really building up and they're really excited about it. So I think it's just a it's cool to go and see people who are really see kind of a group mentality about moving forward. You know? So what where exactly is this. What was their war your vertu catch you? Yeah. Yes. They had a war with Russia. Right. Civil war. See that's what it used to look like. Yeah. Now, you got a picture of it now. Right. Yeah. So it's the rebuilding. Yeah. And then that rebuilt their their energetic about and there's prior to then it's and it's cool as a coach to be able to go there and get to see it. That is cool to see something in the middle of a rebirth. Like. Right. And in that area a lot of places. Yeah. There's a lot a rebirth energy going on. Oh, wow. So that's what it looks like right after the war. God damn. Wow. That's crazy image. So you've been doing this now traveling around the world like this for how many years for a long time. I think let me think I mean, a see I probably would doing stuff with a and traveling for the sport. I've got started probably traveling around to travel internationally around two thousand three or four why? And then, but I got the trouble around the US a lot before that. So that was really cool got to go to places like, you know, you know, that I would never go to Indiana someplace in Indiana. I'd never go or you know, and some of these I've got to go all through the throughout most of the states in the US because even before I was doing a lot of the UFC I refereed for king of the cage. So by the time, I got to the UFC. I got the referee more fights than anyone. I knew I think I met you. Cain kate. Yeah. Way back into the cage we met there that was like two thousand what I was probably two thousand. One or two thousand that was when they were an Indian reservation probably two thousand because they started there in two thousand you're there at the early ones. Right. When they first started. He was Eddie was working for them. Yeah. My friend, bud. Brought spin was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But man, but didn't like Terry decides let me referee. But but it was hard on me. I really roughing. But now, but then he started like me, but was rough on he didn't want you to referee in. I would they Larry was. That's how I started refereeing. Larry was there. He was a referee and I trained with Larry and everybody like rare Larissa referees. Or really, you know, he's a really good guy. And he did a lot to he went. And when he started doing it, he went and did a little research, and and, you know, talk to people from the commission from doing boxing and kickboxing, and you know, so he put inspectors in place and things like that. And that was my job at first I will go out there. We'd bring our guys out, and I would like kind of manage the inspecting team. And then I think they ended up working me too. One show. I was like man, I came in volunteer. My time I want to be able to see at least a fight or two that just come to work for you. And Terry was like oh, make it up to you. And I want to try reference like let me I'll try referee. If goes, okay do that? And then I remember the first time it was like, man. I think when I was like, wow, I really signed up for something here. You know what? I mean. Yeah. It was but yeah, that's kind of how it happened. When did you you you had how many did you? I've had I think five, and when did you decide to the was it because of refereeing the they decided that it wasn't. It was a conflict of interest free to continue career. We'll see I was never like a real serious competitor. As like I'd like to train I like to do that. And then every now, and then I want something to train for you know, what I mean? And so give me something to motivate mihrab befuddled to do it. You know? And what happened is someone told me that it was a conflict of interest and that I needed to pick one or the other. And and no one's gonna miss me as a fighter. So you know, that's that's kind of how that worked out. Well, you definitely one of the best in the world, man. I get happy when you're refereeing a fight because on oh, it's gonna be handled. The I mean, I I agree with you on virtually every single time you, and I have had a discussion about what should or shouldn't be done. The one thing that drives me crazy about referees and not you. But some referees is breaks and standups that don't necessarily need to happen. When guys are working towards something. And you can see there's like a battle guys trying to defend guys trying to get out of half guard getting amount. And then you'll see a referee come over and just separate it because the crowds booing or because they don't understand what's happening. How much of a struggle? It is right, especially clinch work. Exactly guys. Get a guy up against the cage. There's they're working for something. They might stall each other out. But Aventura Lee, someone might breakdown rhyming in this is how a guy like number. Off wins fights against elite guys. This is how Randy couture won a lot of fights. It's a legitimate tactic. Because it doesn't look fun for you. You know, like a guy beating guy up against the cage short elbows knees to the thighs. You might think that that's not enough. But that's that's a that's a good way to wear a dude out and you keep doing that. Until eventually you break them as when you're someone like steep AO. Yeah. Yeah. I think in I think for me, it's helpful as I do my prefight instructions. And so I tell the fighters what I expect and what the expect for me. You know what I mean? So I don't want to I want to interferes little as possible. Yeah. I know. So and so that's that's my goal. And so I I give them instructions I tell them, you know, hey, work work what I expect. And you know, I expect you to do something to looking for big shots or advance your position. And then they'll ask me like, well, how much how long will you leave something stale go what is still if they're both guys relaxed? That's still, but like you're talking about even up against the fence and clinch especi-. Really? That's where a lot of things are really getting decided. And so we have to really see that a play out, you know, especially a lot of the guys are, you know, they're they're striking at each other. Maybe some of the other way classes, you know, then they don't have that one punch. Always. Yeah. Some of the guys do but not everyone does. And that's where things are going to get cited in that clinch. And if there's a tension if there's a tension there, we need to see where that's going to go and let it, you know, work itself out. I'm so glad you said that that's the perfect way to say it, and that's absolutely one hundred percent agree. And there's there's moments where it changes the course of the fight where it's really unfortunate. You didn't referee Kamara loose monta Damian. My did you and I don't think so whoever did that one. We don't even have to pull it up. But there was a moment in the first round when Damian my got ahold tomorrow and was trying to take his back standing had like one hook in clench, and he was hanging onto him and the referee decided not enough was taking place they separated, I'm like, oh, you can't do that. So hard to get a hold of wasn't me. Who did that Damian? My about to get you back say, no, no that's not going anywhere that Sarah went crazy. You know that the podcast. He does Jim Norton. And he's like you just don't do that to the guy. Like, he's he's got a hold of them. Like, he he might take his back here. Like, yeah. Like in. You know, you saw what he did with Lyman good when he takes your back. Yeah. And Lima goods appeased, but when Damien Meyer, it's hold especially early in the round fresh, and he's got his back already. And he has a lot of interesting take down from there to while. He's like he goes back and forth with Taff way taking your back and then one year definitive take down. He starts taking your back when you go then he's working. So now, he works really he works at a really interesting pace there. You know? It's stunning to watch him go through guys. Like when he went through Rick story. I was like cheese Chrysler Rick stories a powerful wrestler. Yeah. When he takes his back, and he gets them in that neck crank, and you see the blood squirting out of his nose like, whoa. Yeah. This is this is a heavy fucking squeeze squeezes guy is. And then he did it to Carlos Condit who else is done to. It's not a lot of guys. He gets old. You just he's his and when he gets on top. He seems so heavy Magni when you ran through Neil magnetic. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just such high level Jiu jitsu on top. He's just to no air to smush is you it's I'm I'm such a sucker for a specialist. Whether it's a style vendor specialist, striking specialists or Damian Maya specialist. I love watching the guys that are like at the tip of the the ability in whatever the discipline is style bender men. He seems to be getting better every tall. Yeah. Yeah. Well for him. It was just a avoiding Tate downs. Like, he was so high level as a kickboxer he so clever like, he's he's like in my opinion. Probably. The very best in the sport at setting traps. Yeah. He'll he'll gauge you. See what you doing dances? Get some information. Yeah. It's not it's not random, and I like the way he deals with the take downs. I mean, he knows where he safe and where he's not you don't see these panic, and he's I guess minute. Let's just cook them in it. But I seem what I seen what they're this attempt. Looks like I see what this one looks like walking through. All right now. My party is gonna start. Yeah. His I talked to one of his guys trains with. I was refereeing. Some fights in China. And it's one of the guys who trains with a New Zealand, and this guy was telling me so much and show me different things about angles. They do and things that they set up in their striking that I'd never knew or thought about and this was before I saw him start fighting in UFC, you know, just everybody was aware of him. But he hadn't been in the UFC. And man, these guys he's says, a really smart, these the techniques like this sport is growing so much. You know? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was saying. Like when when you're seeing really. High level super technical strikers like him like who's a world class being as good. He easily could be world champion many organizations as kickboxer see him now in the NFC and see guys having to deal with that. And it's like, okay. This is the Anderson fights, great example. We'd know how great Anderson this. Yeah. He's still look pretty good against our bender. But you could see why style bender was special in that to he. I'd like another level of trickery. Yeah. And I mean stuff John Jones is doing. Yeah. Yeah. But so you can't call him a specialist because man, he does so many different. It's really like a kung FU movie, right? Where you changed? Yeah. And then they do they do something. Yeah. Yeah. Well, John such a good kicker too. I mean, that's that's interesting. He started out as a wrestler because like how how much of his style now is can heal. It's a giant part of his game was utilization. Those long asked legs, right? And he's as interesting like how how much time he looks like he's getting information on right? Then all of a sudden they had them then when he shifts gears. It's like, okay, I've gotten a lot of information. Here's to do with it. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to fight Tiago Santos, right? Yeah. Yeah. That guy goes for broke. I mean, he goes for broke. It's it's interesting to watch him fight because you wanna talk about like a wild reckless, dude. Like Santos is dangerous. John John, should and probably will be a heavy favourite. But Santos he does. He throws some. Hey make. No, no, it's going to be it's going to be. It's a great fight to watch. Yeah. That guy's going to go out on his shield. No, he he puts pressure think the interesting thing about. Well, for me with interesting when I watch any of the heavier guys fight is like, you know, they really have to understand where they're safe and whether or not that's something that John does really good. How to be in the pocket in the places where he safe and know knowing where? Yeah, he's the best ever utilizing his reach. Like, no one's ever been better at controlling reach. And then never lending guy. Reset when guys try to reset Bany kick some Bama kicks him again. Bam. You kick some again, he's like he he knows when you're trying to get comfortable when you try to settle in. And that's when he kicks you like you senses. It I just started battering you like he sees like, no, no, no breaks. No breaks. No breaks. No breaks like the agonies breaks. What about a man max Holloway? Oh, dude. He's the king and no breaks. Max all the way. There's no brakes. Just pours it on you. He's just keeps coming. Yeah. Keeps coming. What happened? He pours it on. You keeps coming and it's fucking combinations. Several high profile fires confirmed for UFC two thirty nine including Michael Kesse versus Diego Sanchez over fight shit. There's one Michael kiss a pack a lunch bro in Gado versatile. Santos sanchez. That's that's a great one. So that's Vegas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's that's good Yang Mehovic versus Luke rock. Hold. That's a great fight to rock holds. I fight at light heavyweight. And how'd you learn how to say that Bovick? I think are listen to someone else say, and I just repeated the noise. I had the hardest. I was beat. It's a beat muddle mid Sherry Pov, Margaret. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That dude hoof. He's nasty. He's fun to watch. He's fun to watch. I did some nasty shit in there so technical so crisp, you know. You know, and again long reign. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But can take two men mean he he hates him bombs from Jeremy fucking Stevens. Who's one of the biggest bomb throwers in the division? Yeah. Jeremy has some fucking weapons. You know that? Yeah. Yeah. I remember when that fight was on. I was like man, I couldn't wait to watch. That was a great fight is close fight to close fight. I mean, I think the decision went is a beat Jeremy disputed a little bit. But I met other close fight very good fine. But I think the decision was correct. But it's the bead is, you know, he's a interesting style. Right. Really grappling crazy trip. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. A lot of crazy real old school traditional martial arts kicks through kicks and three sixty roundhouse kicks and shit. Right. Right. Right. No. Rule out of grace led a lot of balance there. There's so much talent. Now, I can't remember it time where there was so many elite high level fighters that were like so exciting to watch so many good guys that like really good guys people are there's the slip in through. And this sport is growing so much and groin. Yeah. Groin all over the world. Some of these like that's one of the cool things about the travel. Is you get to go see in some of these some of these guys some of these, athletes and other parts of the world have a huge following. And no one's ever heard of this one guy. Mary Barra Bari. He he has I think like almost a million followers on his grow. Really? Yeah. No shed is the euro see guy. No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. He's he's the guy who's never fun UFC. Whereas you find fights in ACA. No kitten is the rush organization. Yeah. What's it called ACA? Yeah. What does it mean? What was the Stanford absolute championship? Optima achmad. What does that mean? He is one point six million. Politico Hansi me is. Damn. Because I referee the fight and Iser by John where he was at sea heavyweight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How must see where he's a big heavyweight? Do you think he passes pissed? You know, I'm not living in the man's pocket. So I don't know if anyone can pass this test. I really don't know. I'm not an expert on that. I leave that expression. He's he likes wrestling. I think a lot of fighters like wrestling right now the him Ronda Rousey, make that Chang. The like I could do that. Do you watch progressively? I watched occasionally when Tony inch cliff makes me. And while you watch it. No, no. Yeah. I didn't think you would. I get it either. I'm not fourteen when I was a loved it. No. When I was a kid a rally when I realize I mean, I I liked it. When I was six I liked it a lot. And I and don't get me wrong. I don't not that. I don't respect what they're doing. I used to work out in a no not DOJ Dojo. And I did some pro wrestling workouts with him just to see what they're doing and taking those bumps and some of the stuff they would do off the like, there's no way I would be doing that with my body. So all respect to it. It's just that this doesn't count. I feel exactly the same way. They should be respected as being incredibly tough, very difficult job. Yeah. Athletic talented, the guys that are really good at it that make it look like, you know, like art. Yeah. I'd like Jimmy Superfly Snuka when I was a kid. I love that guy back. Lynn, remember him. I don't remember. Remember the eye and cheek. Oh, yes. Of course. She get. Yeah. Yeah. There's some fun times. But yeah, I prefer real things. Yeah. I mean, I get it. Get the appeal. You know, but I it's like once you watch really good fights. It's hard. It's hard to give shit about fake fights. Yeah. I just did. I don't I don't get it. I didn't I didn't get it yet. Yeah. But you know, what some people love it. And you know, that's the thing. You know, some people know every bit of it every stick, and, you know, I don't know. But I think it's probably, you know, who knows I might it might catch me. 'cause you know, I'm always trying to get stuff. So if there's something I don't enjoy I like to do it with somebody who enjoys it. So I can kind of watch them and kind of learn how to enjoy it yet. I mean, like, what's the part that you like about this? You know, what I mean or like, I didn't listen to a lot of country music. But then I used to work with gladiator challenge a lot and Ted Williams was like you don't like country music. So he gave me country music education. What's matter? What you don't like? You can stay the same. Good music. And I was like, okay. I gotcha. What did you get into? I started what I start grabbing. I'd like to old stuff. I like I like Moreau Kris Kristofferson Sunday morning coming down. Yeah. And I like your boy, your boy was on your sturgeon, guests turtle. I like stirs as deep rate. Fuck. Yeah. I see Jesus play with. Yeah. He's legit. Yeah. He's legit that that's Aung as as a well written song, man. He's trip of a story, man. He was like working regular jobs working on a railroad and his wife told them you can make a living doing music. She's like, you know, you don't suck at this. So she told him to go for it. And now he's one of the biggest music artists in the world. Right. Right. Crazy. And it didn't take long either, man. Yeah. Yeah. That that turtles all the way down like that's really cool song. I I I met him like almost immediately after meeting, and we got high as fuck and did a podcast. We barbecued with a couple of times where you know, he called me up after the podcast. So it was like man, I didn't even know what the fuck we were talking about for the first twenty minutes because we were so high because if you live in Nashville like he lives in Nashville area, you go out there and get the weed. They have pretty good. We'd it's okay. But it's not California. We'd like California read is preposterous. Right. If you're not used to that stuff you smoke that shit and try to be on air. Like all of a sudden now, you're on a podcast, you're on air. And we're talking about like. Yeah. I don't think I could keep up. I would like I've, gene. Can you keep up with joy Dow I went on parchment and he packed enough. I think they'd get a village high. He put it in this this bowl like and just tore it up emptied. It out did it again, and then ate a gummy bear and was like all right. Sorry put on Pink Floyd. A real deal, man. Yeah. You know? I mean, he's free till it is it's free. Yeah. You know? I'm not that Freeman three. I wish I could be you know. And I I have I have I have respect for just be like you said that freeness. Yeah. A lot of people are free. Yeah. But I'm not as like, I think your boy, your your people seem kind of free coup. I think Eddie Bravo. Seems for a free thinker, man. Yeah. Yeah. And and others. Yeah. No eddie's. That's why jujitsu so creative. Yeah. He's he's he's so open to ideas. You know, what's? I mean, he's he's also like he doesn't like losing. So he's like I'm going to figure out when I'm going to figure out Pete this. So he'll look con like hill. Like look at a position. Hell have some weird unorthodox take on how to get to a better spot or how to control the position better how to finish from there and let you see like damn like his Braise works yet? Just every you know, if you have a conversation with him about about stuff, he you'll learn a lot just from every time. Like, okay. I know you you're gonna take away something from it, dude. He's I can't do one of the bits that he's doing what he's he's doing stand up now and some shit is really fucking funny, man. He made me laugh really hard last night. Really? I would have to do the bit. I would have to tell you the bit to show you. What does it? Yeah. I thought so it's funny, man. It's getting really it's getting more and more comfortable doing it. He was. Always funny. Yeah. I mean, he always used to make you laugh, but he tried it way back in the day tried stand up many, many, many moons ago like fuck in two thousand and three or four or something like that. He tried it. And it just wasn't for him. He was too busy with other stuff. He just he was going to try it. And then get good at it. But he got he bombed a few times he's fucked this, and then he tried it. Again, I want to say like four years ago. It was about that three years ago four years ago somewhere in that range, and he's been doing it steady since these actually pretty funny man like like like made me laugh like really loud because I've seen it on social media that you guys have some shows where like he's on there. You're on it a bunch of. Yeah. Sam Tripoli's shows. Yeah. A lot of Sam shows. He does a podcast. Tinfoil hat podcast Sam, and we're all real good, friends and Sam is also a conspiracy nut so they get together and talk about the luminosity and shit. Yeah. I have friends like that. Yeah. I have. Yeah. Yeah. He's like that. Yeah. I go back and forth with conspiracies. I have a love hate relationship with conspiracies. I love some of them. Some of them are fascinating some of them. Like, okay. What the fuck happened there? You know? But in some of them were I can't do this anymore. I know when I was younger I used to think about it. But then I think when I had a kid when time for that time for nonsense. Becomes very precious. This becomes food. How? Exactly exactly not over here. Worrying about the fucking luminosity. I don't even know what that means. What's the aluminum? They exactly I'm busy. I kinda go, but I get how people get sucked into that rabbit hole. No, no. I could see I went into a rabbit hole the other day, but with aliens, I watched three million documentaries in a row A. Rod this one on Bob Lazar who was a guy claims that he worked at area. Fifty one's very compelling. Very interesting because at the top with us, the one you would suggest yes, that's the one I would suggest it's called area. Fifty will you Bob Lazar area fifty one and flying saucers? I think it's called it's on I tunes down. It's fucking good big nose. Because there's some things that this guy knew that it. It's almost certain that he worked where he said he worked that he worked at area fifty one. The question becomes he told the truth about all these things that have since been proven to be true weird. So I gave he gave I cut at those. Truths. Right. Yeah. Well, he long time ago to he came out about this like thirty years ago. There was a Nevada tell her shot this Baba's are he would he would he was worried about his life. Here's what happened. Apparently, the guy was working in this area doing research for whatever the government wanted them to do an area fifty one what he did there. Who knows he gets fired from this job? And then takes his friends to this viewing position in the mountains where they can see them flying flying saucers who's telling them, they fly them out of this base. I'm gonna bring you guys. We're gonna watch it. He they videotape. This on old school VHS tape. You can see these flying saucers flying around area fifty one. And he says these are not not being piloted by a by aliens, these are being piloted by human beings. But that these are real devices. These things are real they're a real vehicle, and they got this real vehicle from some. Other some other civilization from somewhere in space, and they had nine of them. It sounds like total horsh it when you hear it. But then you watch the video and so the questions come like, how did he know that they were going to be flying these things up there? How did he know they were going to do on Wednesdays? How do you know where he could see it? How did he know? How did he know about the biometric data? How did he know about element one fifteen? He was talking about this element is manmade element that it's it's a real element that they've now identified, but when he was talking about it in one thousand nine hundred and no one knew what the fuck was talking about our nine hundred eighty four whatever it was when he was when he first got interviewed about this. So when this guy is bringing this stuff up today, and people are looking back at all the different things that he said that if since been proven to be true, especially the existence of area fifty one the government had to at some point time in the nineties. They had to say that they own the base and say that it did didn't fact exist so that they could broaden the. The top secret area or the do, you know, there's do not enter zone or they'll pull you over an arrest, you if you get past a certain spot they wanted to broaden that area. So people couldn't be watching their crafts fly around like Bob Lazar was and when they did that when they expanded the territory, that's when they had to actually admit that the base was real. So he was proven to be correct on so many different things that he said like explain how they get him out there. Explain what the research was. And he said that they had these things that run on some they manipulate gravity in some way. And they're very small because these aliens are very small little creatures like a child like eight ten year old child. It makes you go. What the fuck, man. And so he talked about he said he saw them. He knew the operated. Wow. The things that he knows that her true that turned out to be true that how could he have known them if he didn't work at area, fifty one of the most compelling aspects of it, and the fact that area fifty one. Was at one point in time by the government's take it didn't exist, and then it was like a legend. And this was when he was talking about it. And so watching this documentary and seeing this guy thirty years later, still basically saying exactly the same thing with a bunch of things have been proven proven Cynthia. Yeah. That is intense. It's a trip, man. I mean, if the government really did at one point in time have some craft that it got from another planet. What the fuck, man. But the thing is like how would we take that? How do you think people would take that? If they found out, how do you think that handle that? If they really knew there was something that was so sophisticated that it could visit us from another planet could be here in minutes g land of the White House lawn. Do whatever the fuck it and wanted to you couldn't even shoot it with bullets. How would people take that? I think that people would just keep going on like with every other scare I think so. Yeah, think okay. There's there could be a meteor that's supposed to hit us. Right. Right. I mean, how people take it. I mean, that's what they're saying. It would happen. I think it would be a fuck fest in the streets. But because what they say they think had happened. I mean, you know, if he's common. Yeah. But I'm saying that if you saw one company because you don't see the alien, and if people realize it yet these guys could show up, right? I don't know. I remember the conspiracy that when I I remember I did remember that remember that when they would be like these booklets of like Xerox stuff going on like the one about aids and stuff like that. Uh-huh. Maybe that one. Yeah. That one had be going for well, the the aids conspiracy memorandum. Oh, yeah. Yeah. People used to hand those out, right? Yeah. And tell people that aids was a hoax not a hoax that it was like all this memory host a government, can guess. Yeah. Yeah. That's right way out for. Yeah. I remember I was video. I was maybe I was making come in passing along that blew my mind. Well, there was one doctor at one point in time that was trying to say that that HIV does not cause aids. And we had him on way back in the day early on was that guy's name. Duisberg Dr Peter Duisburg. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. I just remembered it he is a professor at the university of California Berkeley, I believe I think he's a biologist and his take was that HIV does not cause aids. That would cause his aides a compromised immune system that HIV is actually a week virus, and it shows up immune systems of people that are already compromised. That's why you're finding it in these people that it's not the cause of their immune system being confrontational compromise. It's a symptom of it. And that would these people are really dying from is there their whole system being fucked up by drugs that either they're taking as E T which destroys their body. You know, it was a cancer medication like chemotherapy that was so powerful killing people quicker than the cancer was and then they switched it over to using it with people that had aids because in in the early days, they would call aids the gay cancer, right? There was all these different like were. They were trying to figure out what it was. And what it did? And early on. This guy was saying this, and we had him on the podcasts and people got so mad there were so mad given this guy a platform to spread his his propaganda and his lies. And I was like. Wow. But he is a professor, right? He has done like legitimate cancer research. He's you know, I mean, don't you wanna listen to them? And I wanted to get someone on to debate him. But nobody wanted to debate him. It was like trying to get someone to debate holocaust denier wants to give them the platform. Nobody wants to talk them which understand. But those those kinds of I mean, it's very highly unlikely that all these doctors are incorrect and are hiding the fact that, you know, and then now the fact that they've got these HIV medications, basically, they can take people and make them HIV negative now. Right. Didn't they have like a couple of people have tested HIV negative after medications? I don't know. I'm to stew. Too stupid to understand. What's really, that's that's for me. I know that when I watched some of those things, you know, they some of them they'll like lead off with these statements, and we all know, and we know this. I'm like, I don't I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. There's too much to know. Yeah. Yeah. How do we get in the subject of aids? I don't know we're we're talking about conspiracy theories. Oh, yeah. And that was the one that I that went that one when it was out back in what eighty nine or something Eighty-eight when those little pamphlets of growing around the house like, yeah. Well, marijuana and conspiracies go together like cookies milk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. This is nothing like we starts your gears, turning and you start thinking, that's why a lot of people started thinking conspiracies against them to are you get high and they start thinking of the world closing in on you. Everybody's watching you surveillance. But you don't probably don't feel like when you get high. Now. I'm okay. Yeah. I do. Sometimes I kind of like it though. You know, why like it because it ends? And when it ends, you feel great. It's almost like a brutal brain workout like you go dig deep into your psyche. And find her all the things. You're scared. Right. Yeah. No. It's like, it's work. Yeah. It's gonna work you like took an a look at you so go, and you know, I never thought about me from that angle before. Yeah. I like to do it. I'm gonna Keno. Yeah. Clean up your shit. Yeah. Yeah. Especially if you're I think if you're in a high pressure job, and you're very busy. Like, I am I think those those little insights are very important because you could get caught up in your own bullshit. And what you're trying to do and not think. The impact you have it on the people that are around you. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then then that marijuana goes. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And you impact a lot of people to many peop-, especially with you know, like, you know, 'cause I have things where like my philosophy might change or a little thing. And you talk into a lot of people like, oh, I don't know if I feel like that anymore. Yeah. You could switch right. Yeah. You could definitely switch your opinion. I do I switch. My opinions. I do too. Yeah. But I don't know. There's anything wrong with that either. I think everybody should be more flexible with their opinion. I mean, obviously, there's opinions like rape is bad people. Yeah. Don't steal. Obviously those things normal stuff that everybody agrees on. But then you get to a certain point. I think we get real married to the idea of our opinions being right? And we get real married to the idea of winning an argument with our opinions. I think that's when things get squirrelly because then you start trying to calculate an argument to make your position sound better. Doing your position for what it really is. And then also being just trying. Yeah. Always trying to figure out and learn a little something to something away from dot to be a knee jerk. That's the thing. You don't want to be a knee-jerk. Exactly. You know what I one? I went real back and forth on pretty recently is universal basic income. I see this guy a universal being Andrea. Yeah. These running for president platform, that's part of his platform. Right. Right. And I had him on the podcast really enjoyed talking to him really, really smart guy, very cool guy. But when I'm talking to him, and I'm thinking about it. I'm like. Boy, I don't even know if that's enough. Like, what what they're doing the idea behind the ideas that automations can take all these jobs automated cars that means going to wipe out a shitload of jobs apparently. And the idea is that if we don't have some form of universal basic income. There's going to be chaos, but having just some amount of money. So that people have their needs taking care of you always have food you always have shelter. This you taking care of now. Go pursue your happiness. The the real problem with that though was who was it that we had the other day we were talking about meaning about people want was it. Knicker stock is it was people fight but need meaning. Yeah. Their life. Who was the might be him. I recall that don't think it was. I think it was someone else was a bench Pirro. No. I don't think it was. But anyway, whoever it was that we were talking about it. We were saying that does that give people a sense of meaning though because people like like you for instance, you, you know, your responsibility as a referee. You know, how significant it is. You know, you're one of the best in the world when you're refereeing a high level championship bout when the fighters find out that herb deans are every get excited to go. Good one less thing. I have to think about it's like, you're you're you're putting so much of who you are into that job. Do we know? I'm looking for a piece of it. I don't know yet. Sorry. No worse. But I mean. That's that's gigantic. Right. I mean, that's I know that that's an inaugural. You take that very seriously. Heart. Maybe I guess they're going about it was it not don't think. So anyway, you have meaning, you know, and what you do if you just got money to lay around and someone said well, just go pursue your goals. Okay. But I think what people really like to do when the really happy is make a living doing something that has meaning getting. Yeah. To them. I don't know if it would smooth things out if you just gave people money. Yeah. I don't know how that would work. I don't know how I don't dare that. When I saw him what he's talking about about. I don't I don't that. Like that one. That's I'm not smart enough for that one know how that's gonna work, but he seemed to think that there was a lot of ancillary benefits like things like lowered crime rates lowered. You know, you would have lowered instances of disease lowered instances of people were injured doing certain things. Like, you if you had money, and you made sure that people at a certain amount of money, it actually might cost the public less money. I I can see where he would come from with that. Because I think there's something 'cause there's there's a lot of people probably met a lot of people say that money, isn't everything. And there's these things that mean this. But it's only once you get enough money where you can step off the off the little hamster wheel hamster wheel second to like start thinking about these other things money's overwhelming, man. Yeah. I mean, if you don't have it it's over I remember when I first got a development deal when I was doing stand up, and I got a big check. And I just immediately felt like like literally legal weight was lifted off my back is the weight like I had a weight vest on. I took it off who like now, I don't have to worry about food or rant or gas or anything for like at least a year. Right, right. And I was like how to think about it. And then I remember I think God I feel so free. It feels so different 'cause most people's lives who are in debt. Most of the time. They're they have this constant fog of pressure. Oh, yeah. Yes. Around them about those thong hills. God damn bills are always there. It's creeping on you. And then you get credit cards and your max, those mother fuckers trying to live these dreams that people are given to you that you're supposed to have these like, you know, the symbols the status, you know, people trying to like, and it's really that's even weird because you know, I'm not really into that stuff. But then again them on television. So. I can afford to be. I don't know. Maybe that's why I'd like to think I'm deep yet. Nah. I don't need a Mercedes, man. I'm just you know, just drive you just driving my car. My two thousand five you know, that's just need to get from point A to point B. But you know, maybe that's why I don't know. I don't know, man. You you say you have a seventy four Bronco too. So he must appreciate cool shit. See that's what I'm saying. But that's the thing. I was about to get rid of it. And my friend said because I was like man, it doesn't mean what it used to mean to me. But I do appreciate it. And now, I'm like my friends like, hey, I'm gonna hook. We're gonna hook this thing up. So I was like all right. I sent it to him. He says I'm gonna give you a deal. We're gonna get all hooked up, right? But it does I will mitt that like before it meant a lot more to me than it does. Now, Kevin Hart came over here with a Bronco the other day. I saw his Bronco who the red one his is better than mine to yours is to his dope. His his makes me realize how cool the convertibles are when they're they're done as convertibles right like he's just driving around with no top on my. That's so nice. That's what that's how do because I got in mind as a convertible, and I wouldn't I gotta talk because I want to do a hard top on it. But if you're taking it on. Yeah. That is that is a nasty Bronco. You know, he has his own car company that does this shit. He does this shit with his own company. He's got like a hundred businesses, dude. I never met anybody as motivational or motivated as Kevin Hart. No, I saw the I saw I follow him on social media. And that man is he and I saw what he was talking about you know, talking to you about to. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's very motivated. Yeah. He's the most off. Positive person. I think I've ever met and love that he's got a Eleanor Mustang. That's fucking beast, man. They made that at his place to so he has his own fucking car place. That makes him cars. Look at that. I mean, the dudes off the charts, but more importantly, look his outlook like his his healthy positive outlook in the way. You know, he just goes through life is very inspirational just is very positive up lifting like he's all just trying to help people and all these different facets of life. Help people with financial advice help with motivation to help people to get the bullshit. Other live get the clutter out of there. Yeah. No. I I like when I first. Really liking when he was doing that thing where he was meeting up with people to run the house, man. I like that like that let's much travel and I used to like to run, you know. Well, you can always do that other people do that my friend Cameron Hanes does that all the time. He'll invite people to run with them places. Yeah. Yeah. My thing with the yoga's I've been decided to do it when I'm on the road. So that's what was I got to do it. And you going Atlanta this weekend. No what? No, no. No. No. But it everybody. What the fuck is to not won two world championship fights. Yeah. Damn you didn't get invited. Atlanta. Are they gonna use it Lanta guys? I'm not sure there's good Atlantic guy referee. Blake rice, Blake Greis. Yeah. Yeah. He's a good guy. There's isn't that? Matt Grace's brother is he I didn't know that. I don't I think one of the referees. What's his name who's owed because sometimes they use what remember that fighter? He used to have the black do with a like a patch of gray here. But that is like a straight is makes his hair look real cool. What's his name is on? It was a real good fighter. His son fights in mid-may. Now, he came from kickboxing background. I don't know why I'm drawing a blank on hand drawn this embarrassing too. Because it's embarrassing because he's going to be mad like like, you don't know me. I know haven are that's the weed hanging out with Joey Dee as well. Fuck your head a couple of months. Was Joey podcast knows like it was probably a couple of years ago. Okay. It was recovered him say, yeah. Dude. He he'll change your life over in that weird room gives people they'll stars at death. I know. Yeah. Two hundred fifty milligrams of THC. That's crazy. Two hundred and fifty milligrams. Yeah. That's crazy. That is a crazy amount. Yeah. That's not right now. I'm still trying to think of this guy. I know you are trying to jostle your memory in some way. We'll come back. We'll come back to it. Yeah. There's a lot of guys who are former fighters that that I think I'm Frank Trigg doing reverie work. Now. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Frank tricks or the good I would like more guys do that. And I would I would love to have more former fighters be judges. You know, who I saw who was really good who came took my courses. Chris been. Yeah. Could referee. Well, he's doing he's been doing stuff in cammo. And he's he's coming along. He's done a get nice. Yeah. He just one in a bare knuckle boxing. I saw I saw saw some clips of it was the I mean, look good. Yeah. Well, it's good for him to with his style his style. That's that's actually a great move for him. Right. You know, but he retired from finding because he didn't want to fight anymore. I mean, just but I guess a little bit of time. Off. And he's like fuck it. You know, there was two organizations used to be a different bare knuckle boxing, but they went under. And when they went under they owe him like ninety thousand yet. He has cheated the, yeah. That's rough in his recourse is just let people know. Yeah. These guys won't be money. Did you see the clip that crook l'an from crystalline on Twitter put up of the owner bare knuckle boxing, saying that a fighter didn't fight hard enough? Yeah. I saw that. Yeah. I. And he was proud of these like, this is the way we do it. See if you could find her tweet, this is the way, we do it this. Yeah. Like that was ridiculous. I'm just gonna dock guys pay. Yeah. He's getting took fifty percent of his money because it didn't meet the because it didn't mean a standard. Yeah. I just one when he said that the crowd chair something. I think so I hope not I'd hate to see that some of the crowd cheer. The president of the bare knuckle finding it as Mr David looks. He's on coke looking to even look you guys having fun. The night makes them. Fighting KP tip a brand new sport and burn new company. And we're here for action and we want accent. And we demand action from the fighter demands get accident last quite who's rusty Crowder. One of the Ron therefore is giving a half per to Reggie Barnett. Make some north looks. He did his how we do it. Bare knuckle you fight or you don't get paid. That's not good. It's not good that he thinks zombie prophet wrote. This can't be legal who would see what Steffi as wrote. Crook, l'an wonder how that works. She wrote what the actual fuck is this hillbilly hosted? Yeah. I concur. What in the actual fuck? Is that hillbilly bullshit? Now, these the dock right? The yellow car was nobody yellowcard is a penalty for being boring. Yeah. And sometimes it responsibly. Like, I I've watched some of those yellow cards. Mike, you crazy. Crazy take that back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You gave their guy yellow? He can't fight any harder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We can't engage is gonna get lit up this moments. We have to try to figure out what the fuck to do. You're on the outside. You're trying to figure out how to get in. Right. Right. And you get the referees. I caught fight fight like, but in Asia at some of the like, some of them I used to work a lot at this Korean show and they change their figuring out their style. But man when I first got to they're like, so there's a yellow card any backward. Step back step. Any back step you. We we want to give it a little cart. Right. Liotta Machida would never make anybody. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if I can do with that. I don't think that's I mean, you invited me over here for a reason I'm I'm just going to do what I do. And hope you bring me back. But I don't know if I can do that. Yeah. Yeah. Do do you ever go to a place and the commissions or a promoter will tell you? Hey, fights, go to the ground. I want you to give it just a couple of seconds. Stand him up. I go places and people tell me what to do all the time. Really? And I'm not going to do it. Because at the end of the day. No one's gonna know that you told me to do it. It's going to be me doing it hundred percent. So yes, so yeah. So I'm going to. Yeah. I I can't basically so glad you just said it that way too. Because that's that's people need to get that in their head. Because I know that sometimes people do get affected by whether they want to please a promoter or please the crowd or and they're not doing the right thing. It's such a tremendous responsibility. Yeah, you're going to be. But you're the one who's going to be for some of those choices. As you know, those choices that they made their making those choices with your name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the backstop key. Kevin johnson. Answering the guy, but this is a tweet from the bare knuckle SC, okay, Kevin Johnson. No money was taken from any fighters that statement did exactly what it's supposed to supposed. It didn't say to suppose and lit a fire under every single fighters ass from that point on giving you one of the greatest fights you'll ever see. No, no. No. No. No. No. No. No, no. Those guys fought that way. Because that's who the fuck. They are right, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. There's no. Nothing to do with the Jason night an autumn Lobov gift. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can't you can't claim credit for hick or for Jason night doing an arm. Lobov's fuck outta here. They would fight that way in a fucking WalMart parking lot. Yeah. That's how those guys would fight every time. They fight the both those do and both those are so tough Jason has my favorite nickname hick D. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nice bad motherfucker. Yeah. He's a bad motherfucker that, but it was tough looking at their faces man after the finals like man, I might have to rethink my position on bare knuckle fights look at their faces afterwards. Yeah. I mean that is crazy. You know? It's a lifetime of cuts. Yeah. All over the film. Look at is his right under his nose that his tail is crazy cut, man. He's stitched the fuck up all over the place. Does rough man his whole face got lacerated. I mean that is a lot of cuts. Yeah. It's that's more like a Moi fight. And it really makes you think. But I can I'm best got to be the most brutal right multi. Yeah. I believe so more type bare knuckle would be like, what do they call it left way? Uh-huh. Were they just they kinda like rap the hands up in a hand wrap. Yeah. It's not bare knuckle, but it's. I think bare bare knuckle Moines, I would be the the hardest. But the thing what my argument was always. And it still remains this that if you're not gonna pad anything else like you're not gonna pad the shins not going to the knees or they elbows why patting knuckles? You're just giving people false sense of security in terms of what is actually affective. We don't want. We don't want to practice something that doesn't really work. If you don't have gloves on, right? I mean, if every time you punch somebody you don't have glows on your hand would break. Okay. We clearly can't punch people. It's stupid. You gotta use elbows and knees and saying, right, right? So in order to fight which your knuckles is much as UFC fighters. Do you Pat everything you pad you put wraps you put padding over at boxing is like it's a different world as soon as you take gloves off a different world. Punches get in that you can't block. It's way more consequence. Lot more cuts. But it least if now we know what actually works, right? I see what you're saying. I wasn't thinking about it from that point of view that has given people people were thinking that. Yeah, you're right. Like people think that boxing. We'll before they may thing was the most effective way of doing things. Yeah. But then when you MMA's a whole different from the. Size of the boxing glove of the techniques. You can do and what you can't do them. What's going to work? It's not gonna work. Yeah. It's it's supposed to be the sport of fighting. And you've basically brought it down to a raw form, but you're still covering the knuckles and patting the knuckles. Just because of perception. And see the problem with that guy. This bare knuckle boxing guy, when he says some stupid shit like that is that it reinforces what people don't like about combat sports would people don't like about the idea of bare knuckle boxing that it's brutal. And it's just there for chaos and right, right? Right. Right. Come for action. We're here to see action that guys like they'll think about him, man. Yeah. And and I don't think that. I don't think that emit may athletes, I think MMA athletes, I think are the most honorable and well behaved, and, you know, not because of fear anything because of what the sport is getting out like I mean, people there no event, you know, that there could because our of nature is being put in a channel channel in an organized way to make sense. I'll tell you when the most aggressive I run around the Rose Bowl when I see the peleton come around. That's when the most aggressive things I've seen man those dues are constantly cursing each other out and cursing everybody else out a little soccer moms out there trying to run around the Rose Bowl. But guys, the am man. But the guys throwing punches are never, you know, cursing people out. So the runners. No, no, what do you? What's the peleton? I two guys on the bikes. But isn't that like, oh, I thought peleton you stand still I don't know. I was making. I'm not I'm talking about the guys at the Rose Bowl. It's really nam saying they'll. Come they'll train there? Oh, when they come out, and they train man with a riding stationary bikes riding together the writing together, and they're out there. Not racing. The no they're their training. And there's some aggressive those aggressive because they're cutting each other often shows, maybe just maybe just follow the rules writers. There's a word peleton, which means a group of cyclists. It's not the same as. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So the cyclists. Because I didn't think I'd use the word proper there. We'll wait a minute. Wait a minute. I thought I use the big word and made a mistake. All right. Okay. So these people they're racing and their cousin each other out there training. So not raising the trained together in the training to get the Rosebowl. Can you've been through Rose Bowl. Right. Yes. You know, the the there's a running loop. Yeah. You go you can get in five K rounded room like. Yeah. Those do during tents really way more intense than I see our athletes active, well because his not as much consequences. Right. They're not going to get off by compete other's asses. Because they'll talk shit. Really? Yeah. I bet they are. Well, it's like one time. I wish one of them would have come back. He's. It's like road rage. Right. You get road rage easy. When you're in your car, I was thinking workout done. Don't do another laugh looking for you, the Rosebowl. Oh, okay. And so they get mad at each other because they're trying to pass shit intense. It's grass maybe because they're seeing runs toward. I think I think there's probably way there's probably a lot of structure is to writing pack like that. Right. And then also they're trying to get their workout in. And they're on the and the then there's other people out there trying to do other stuff, and they're really serious about their. I mean, you know. Yeah. It's aggressive. Maybe maybe it's just shocking to me because it doesn't look like it would be that aggressive, right? Because when you think about fighters like, especially guys even training together. It's rare that they swear to each other talk show too. Like if two guys get an argument, like if someone guy doesn't let go somebody tapped and people scream or something like that. Yeah. And so that's the other thing. I think that's why the respect because the beginning better. You have to put yourself in situations where you're going to have where you're going to be at a disadvantage invulnerable. And so you have to trust your training partners to have this level respect. And you're going to have to reciprocate that. Yeah. Wasn't things like leg locks. Yes. Exactly. You gotta be really careful to let go quick Amandas leg lot game that people are doing now today, I need to learn it. I don't know yet. See that's the thing. I Don I used to think I was good Lucks and they used to be so simple. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then I yeah. Because you know, I guess it wouldn't take much to get leg. Lots. You just have to be willing to do him back in the day. Right. Everybody else was like, no, no, no. It's the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So but he used to be like a simple setup. Yeah. Dive in the heel hook, Ivana toehold. Now, do very intense. Yeah. And use other students plump people get it. They're doing the things like maybe the way they hide their feet or the way they do this. I got to say that the first guy in modern MMA that started really wreck and people would lead glocks minority, and then Paul Harris whose Monari and Paul Harris. Those are the two guys. I remember, George GRA gel. He fought emirate emirate ripta's fucking knee apartment, and you know, Chelsea Brazilian jujitsu. Who's a very early in the fight minority. Just did that Monari role just dove on the knee and seeing you know, he's got fucking inverted heel hook. And then Paul Harris any thing you can't defend this like he's too strong. Yeah. He's too strong. So he can do he can do end weighs built. He can do a lot of stuff that just doesn't make sense. Remember, we had that guy against the cage on a single. It's like nobody's worried about a hill a leg. Lock from there. Boehm inverted those legs grab to the pot. On anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was devastating. He didn't let go and he would really really mangle your fucking knee. Right. Yeah. So was like that's what I I remember when because I got the referee him in Brazil before he was doing a lot in the UFC. And so I kind of seen them in and like I think one of Mehta tournament format, and I've never had any problem. But you know, he'd use the he stopped when I told him to you know, but there's one fight of his from. I think it was from Brazil where he's got somebody in a leg lock. And he's not Ango. And and I think it's a leg. Lock. May see if you can find. But it's it's an early fighting his crib. But it's crazy like they're trying to pull him off the guy. And he's not letting you know like a like a pit bull. Right, right. Yeah. And so strong so strong. And apparently his upbringing was horrific that hurt he had a tough. He's you know, it's weird because you see that behavior. And I always see him. He seems like he, you know, some people have a cool energy when they're just around. Yeah. Always makes me smile with us the, but I don't smile when I see that. I mean, you know, what I mean? But he's one of those guys just like softspoken Kinsey going. I think something happens to that guy when he engages you know, when you're in logged in mortal Kombat, he becomes just pure savage. Yeah. And he he I mean, he does leg locks that no one else does. Because no one else is strong enough to do the have those legs that just went. He doesn't care both legs their arms in there anything that. It's all. I saw scrapped. It's all getting trash compacted. Yeah. You know, he had a very interesting grappling match with Gary Tonen. Did you ever see that? I did see that. Yeah. I didn't. I saw some clips of it like some bits of it. Yeah. Really shows you how good Gary Tony. Tony made. Yeah. Because Paul is so much bigger than him. I mean, he's probably forty fifty pounds. Heavier than him. He's much bigger than them. You know, and to watch those guys go back and forth. Really? Really interesting. You. Yeah. Tony like, he's. He he's one of those people, you know, you get a position, but it's still just so hard to. So he can just move away. You know, his grappling so elite and getting really good at striking now too. And he's really dedicated to Emma, and he's undefeated he's been fighting in one FC, which I'm excited. I'm very excited about one f FC I love what they're doing. A love the attitude. They're taking of making it about respect and martial arts and bring it into like some old school martial arts values. They're fucking gigantic right now in Asia put on gravesites, and they have the best fighter in the world. They have Dimitrius mighty. What's really is was really cool is because there's a lot of guys in Asia who are really exciting to watch at that weight. So kind of exciting him get over there with all these guys. That's that's I'm really excited about well. He got tested and his first fight. I mean, he won by submission, but he got tested and over has got stopped by that Russian. Dude, Timothy, what is his his last name, the the guy that stopped. God damn enough. Forget his name the guy stopped. Eddie alvarez. Timothy Timothy not Timothy it's some strange Russian name Timoti. No, I don't remember his last name. But anyway, he's a beast necessarily you can nast. You can. Yeah. Yeah. That's right, nasty is in his last name nasty. You can the first letters of his last name are nasty. Timothy nasty you did you see that fight play the stoppage play the the knockout the far far right one. Now, the far right one that right there. Oh, yeah. Okay. Just play right there. They go. This dude is this Russian cats beast, man, he he was very seasoned in there like really relentless with his pressure and super confident and its power, and he stunned Alvarez a couple times in that. I was pretty shocked. I think there are a lot of guys that aren't in the UFC that are capable of fighting in the USA. I think what I'm saying. So like now that there there's. All I get to see a lot of those guys at those shows in Russia. See I'm watching this cat, and this is not like a freak knockout or something like that. This guy's got real smart technical striking. And he's also puts tremendous pressure on and he's also got big power and their amateur combat sports. Yeah. That like, you know, combat Somboon things like that. They get a lot of experience, you know. Well, when you see a guy like could be number medoff just run through people in the UFC. And you know, where that guys from. You gotta go. How many more of those guys are over there? You know? Yeah. The dagger STAN crew, then that's beat to. He's from Dagestan isn't Islam macho visiting from that that part of the world's well, yeah. Yeah. That's where Keller's areas, boom. Boom. Boom. Boom, boom. Let's it. Yeah. So I mean, it's hotter us Ren, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a warrior group of PBA. Yeah. There's a lot of jewelry. So I get to go. There a lot. I mean, it's. It's really exciting to see a lot of really cool. So his Dagestan like okay Dagestan was a blast. Dagestan was fun. Really? Yeah. I I went there. I, you know, is there with who was also at the show they brought over Verdun and and those guys weren't working for doing. And since silver those guys watching fights just you know, but I was working. They took us around. They showed us a lot of really cool stuff. I went to like, you know, school where some kids wrestling school, like a lot of schools that were athletic would an athlete orientation and seeing these little kids may put this little kid up on a bar had him doing pull ups, man. He was doing pull ups and this little kid little bitty kid. I mean, it must have been least fifteen pull ups, and then I mean, he's a little kid sick not something like nine or something like that. And when coach when the coach podium off he was mad. You could see like man, I got more immediate meeting was mad like so that people could do what and the crowd. They. Loved him in may so much. They were like it was like, you know, what it was like it was like you were watch those videos of like, the Beatles. You didn't mean when people go on crazy, but it's not teenage girls. It's like a bunch of harmful wrestlers just packs. Like, yeah, I've got pictures from somewhere. Yeah. Wow. So it's not popular over there. Yeah. That's now. Did you see the video of those dudes when Kabibi Connor an shoot machine guns into the air? All I didn't see that. But I saw the one of my friends from that area sent me some pictures. She was out on the street. She sent some pictures to to my wife of them some video of guys like get in horse racing had horses their horses down. Some video that was like oh racing and shooting guns does. Yeah. There are people were it was like people were so excited about that some energy. They're Q magin. You're from a place that many parts of the world never heard of until I I don't know how much I thought about Dagestan before it could be came around. And then now they have the not just a world champion, but guy smashed the most famous fighter on the planet. Right. One of the most famous fighters on the planet. It's like him in Floyd, Mayweather, probably the two most famous fighters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It could be just rand through them. So he's he's a huge huge star over there. Yeah. No, no. Yeah. Cute. So that no, it's it's a fun place ago. Matter of fact, I yeah, that to see a lot of cool stuff, you're this Dagestan explosive delight after Kirby defeats McGregor. They're all going crazy with their hats on. People on the street cheering. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Man Connors, all this shit talk leading up to that fight men that backfire like unsung people at works. And then some people is just it doesn't work out. All and it just makes them more relentless when could be was hitting him going. Let's talk now come on. Let's talk. Now, that's him. You know, because he talks the whole time. Right. And finally beginning the starts talking could be does though. Yeah. He starts talking. Really? What does he say? Well, then you hear when he was fighting Johnson essay tell give up give up. Yeah. Yeah. You know need to Tuttle shot give up then he got him in that horrific 'camorra. I was watching that Comoros I taught he's a fucking tap. Come on man tap, come on, man. Oh, just feeling everything. Going pop snap. Pop. The didn't wanna tap, man. Johnson tough guy. Yeah. But I you know that you're the smack talk. I mean, that's what color does. Yeah. Yeah. But this was a different level. Let's talk. Come out with talk. Now. Can we hear it has my Johnson? Yeah. He sounds like you really cares about it too. You know, this I deserve it after five of the total. You know this. I deserve it as he's beating them, right? Yeah. And he's talking to someone on the sideline smasher? Boy. My the scariest thing that he ever said was about Connor I want to change his face. What changes face like? Jesus. So I heard he's retired right? Connor. Yeah. You don't buy it. Right. And then I guess, yeah. He's fight yet. Hans Mullen camp. You know, Hans from monster pictures sparring with Connor today also Connors training, the I know how you doing something monsters it works for monster. He's he's trained and he's gonna fight. He's probably just fucking with people. I mean Connors master showman in terms of like how to keep people interested in him. And I just think he just got way out of line with others Khabib stuff. But I like the way he takes his losses. Oh, took it. Well, I like I like the way he goes out there and talk smack with everyone. I think like as a I'm a like from a sports psychology point of view. I think he's a he's developed there. You know? Yeah. But I don't think the way to get another fight with could be is to continue to talk shit after smashes you. He doesn't have any reason to you can just talk shit like he he didn't just win. He's smashed and tapped you like it was there's only one or two moments in the fight were Connor was taking control with some of the striking the standup. You know, and that's another choke. That's another misunderstood choke that fulcrum choke the Connor with that is legit. Yeah. Net crank. Yeah. Yeah. And people that don't think oh tap to that like you attempted to and if you're stupid people like because the chin was down there. Right. Like you. There's a lot when you're there's a lot of generates a lot of forced game getting hinged jaw for. Yeah. Face apart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that's legit. That's legit submission, especially with that. Yeah. The back on. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Back the the back of your form against the guys back as leveraged, you know, which caused that fulcrum. Yeah. That's horrific. It's very powerful. It hurts bad, man. There's a lot of those neck cranks. Just like, oh, you watch people and you just go. Please tap. Yeah. There it is right there you see with Kabibi left arm pressing against the back of Connor and then also yanking on that. And that is ripping his fucking neck apartment. Yeah. You've never. Yeah. You you until you felt one. Yeah. But Connor it's interesting that the ways posted up like that he's trying to get up and he's getting cracked at the same time. Yeah. You got to kind of. He was already a he'd been smashed by then to you know, he'd been hitting hit with so many big punches from the top. He takes a great shot though. I'll tell you that. Yeah. But it's just one of those things where I think in order for him to really have a real chance at getting another shot. Would he's gotta do is beat somebody big in say something that makes could be considerate. You know? But not in not in the way of what he's been doing in terms of you know, talking shit about him and talking smack. I I mean, I think the only way it's going to be public demand. He's going to have to get to a position where people want to see him fight read me began to see that the result may be different this time. And then maybe if he could just fuck and communicate something to them. So, you know, I respect you. You know, all trash talk aside. You know, I'd like to test myself against you one more time, and I think earned it. I think that's the only way it's going to get. I think the only way he's going to get it is to to win. A couple of fights beats them real big name guys. And then make it. So that's something that could be actually interested in. Well. Okay. So I don't know if that's the only way, but it's the way that would be that. I would like to see they already offered it to be able to fuck off. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like that pass that you're talking about sounds like a one that one that it's good for me to see that that way. Yeah. Do you think that trash talking and MA's gone too far? Do you like it? I I mean. Well, I I think it's entertaining. Yeah. For some people, I think it's not. Well, here it's it's hard because. It's not. It's not always what I wanna see. And it's not a. It's not the type of person. I am. But not everyone's going to be me. That's not Westwood makes the world go round as a lot of people want to see it. And also sometimes it does bring some energy and some you know, when it's well done. It does bring some energy and some excitement to the fight and to the sport. And at the same time, not every fight. What's engine wedding was really interesting, and what's really excited about the UFC? Is that there's a lot of fights that people wanna see that have no bearing on the title. Right. And so there's something to that fights that just people wanna see I think trash talk sometimes makes fight that people want to say. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. It makes things emotional mixing intense. It's great for selling things. It's great for selling pay per views. But the question is like is it good for the sport overall? And should it be something that we encourage? Well, how well that's for. And that's the thing is how do we decide? What's good for the sport from what way right? How do we decide is it good for the way? The sport do want the sport to look at as far as martial arts and being respectful. Thing and people looking at us like that, maybe not is it good for the sport of the growth of the sport. And for more opportunities for athletes, and for athletes to become a names that that draw attention from other people that normally didn't know about it. I don't know. I don't know either. But yeah. So so I don't know. I I I'm torn I like both. I like. I like Makita type character, that's very spectacle, bows, and never talks trash and fights. Like, a you know, just a world champion caliber martial artist. And I also like go talk mad shit. It's funny. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I enjoy it. Oh, it's like, I like press conferences for that very reason where you know, guys are talking shit to each other. And they're looking over at each other on the podium. You know, it's funny. Oh, come on. If some of them. Yes. Some of is hilarious. Yeah. How about CONNER when Jeremy Steven slit ask them for Pfizer who the fuck. Is. That guy though, the fact that he got when he got up with is like, okay, I don't have time to insult everyone. So let's let's get them all in one place. Right. That was great. So it everyone one time this be efficient this comedy when he was talking about red panties night. Yeah. Yeah. That was we made it baby. We got caught up Gregor. He's a fucking character. Malcolm on his in that weird situation though where he really never has to fight again. So you got to wonder what his motivation is you know, like he has one hundred million dollars. He has a gigantic whiskey company that proper twelve is murdering it that that place is killing it that that company is they're moving into other countries. Now, I mean, they're killing it. He doesn't have to do a thing ever financially unless he wants to eat diamond sandwiches. He's like, basically, do whatever the fuck he wants to the rest of his life and just live off interest. But he still likes to fight. Yeah. I think so mean, that's what brought him into the fight. He didn't have to fight could be. But just you know, how much does he want it? I mean does he want it the same way guy like style bender wanted or guide Kelvin Kelvin gasoline wanted? And also, I think that, you know, part of one is different to maybe maybe there's maybe people might want things on. Their terms in terms of way to get in his way. Like like, some people like all your want it. I wanted any way can get it. Some people might want it and say well now, I want it this way. Well, he was gonna fight cowboy that was a fight that they were they were basically trying to make. But it was going to have to be a co main event. And because of that, I think Connor was not interested in the more. He wanted to be a main event, you know, I'm like Jesus like is that really what kept us from Connor verses cowboy can you guys? All right, right. Kabwe make that fucking main event like make some malarkey title come up with some hundred sixty pound title or some shit just come up and do it. I mean, they give out these interim titles left and right? How about you come up with excited when that was going to have? Yeah. Yeah. I was excited to see it hundred sixty five pound malarkey title. Just come on man, you kinda versus cowboy for the title title up. But I don't think it would hurt at all. But apparently Dana says it makes a big difference in the amount of pay per view. Okay. Yeah. But now that they're already SPN. Plus is it really going to be? I mean, how does that work? Now, you pay every month. And then you pay a little more for the pay per view that wanted us so works how much more is it. It's like five five dollars, less whatever it is. You're so it's. Because your monthly month yet. Yeah. Well, that's a good deal. If you're into watching all those fights on ESPN. Plus, it is nice. They do have a great library. But so does fight pass. Right. What does that put five pounds at five path? I can't see some of the stuff that's on. There's there's other. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Way more this year. Your boy tie organizations. And. Yeah. Five passes. Awesome. For the gym. I have a little home gym with the apple TV on it. And I always have five pass on kickboxing, watch obscure Moi tie fights like right from the arena in Thailand, you know, it's it's really cool like hundred pound guys beating the shit out of each other and submission wrestling to. Oh, yeah. A lot of Abu Dhabi stuff is on there. All Eddie, Bravo stuff is on there. All the Eddie. Bravo invitational. Combat. You jets who's on there? Yeah. Yeah. Jujitsu is in a great place right now to right? I mean, there's so many different martial arts. That are really at the pinnacle right now, I think this such an amazing time for a right yet. So many people. Yeah. Martial arts. Yeah. As a great time from Arcelor's. Well, you remember when you and I I got into it. There was I mean, there was nothing. Not what it is. Now, nothing. I mean Marshall it's been around for thousands and thousands of years and the level of martial arts since nineteen Ninety-three today is it. It's indescribably more powerful today like the athletes are so much better. The fighters are so much more rounding in even in jujitsu. If you go back to and watch old jitsu matches from like ninety three. And of course, you're going to have like your Hickson gracie's Higa Machado's, and John chock Machado's who are at that elite level even back then where they hang with guys today. But overall the game is like saw complaint using on 'em. But and also even just the athletes ISM you've seen. Oh, yeah. I mean, he's doozer some animals. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's incredible. And I mean, really what's interesting to me is that you really only seeing a small percentage of the elite athletes that are available in North America that. Even decide to get into it. Right, right. If you talk about how many elite athletes decided to go into baseball or NFL or NBA versus how many elite athletes go into cage fighting is not even close. Right. Right. Right. Let starting to get some of them. Slow sounds really little bit. And some are starting to get an inch. And you the reason why some of them are getting interested in jujitsu. They train right like. Yeah. For cross training doing it for something. It'd be people wanna learn it, you know. I mean, if you're a big guy, but just to fight. Yeah. That's gotta suck big old giant guy doesn't actually know how to finally fuck my on. But a learned some of this shit. Yeah. It's just for for those big athletes. The really big pay days are an NFL. And that's the other thing too. Is that a lot of those guys are bigger than two hundred sixty five pounds. Exactly like they would have to cut a lot of weight to make to sixty five. Which is isn't that weird that we have a heavyweight division that you have to weigh in for? Yeah. No. I think that is interesting. But. I wonder what the super heavyweight division will look like it would probably be just a small handful of giant guys. It would probably be like the flyweights right in terms of like how unless I s- land. They get those Iceland strongmen dudes fighting Emma may have you seen what's his name polish Putin hausky app fights a lot now. I like, and you know, what I've man, you know, when people were all we're kind of, you know, give him a hard time about it. But man Pooja I was a lot of respect for him. Man. It's hard. He brought a lot of put a lot of is on our sport. Who's denounce mama fan? He's still fighting as he's gotten way better. He's gotten better and more any chumps now, and he brings it into. Yeah. And yeah, he is looking at look at the size of that motherfucker still even look at he looked skillful now he'd like he's moving much better. And here's the thing. This guy's better got balls of steel. He's him. Sylvia. That's my reverie. Yeah. I was like I could not believe that they that. They put him up against for who's early in his career like saying for the respect. That's what I'm like. I'm respect like of like respect you. You chose him. It was ridiculous. And he chose chose him very early in career where he really didn't have the skills that he has now and Tim is a world champion and end that and the type of body that's very hard for Putin asking. Oh, yeah. Long and tall long them to wrestler who can put his hands on your hips, and in control your levers and make you you know, your muscles get fatigue. Make you gas out. Yeah. Started from the beginning. So you can see what it was like early for the game. I mean, Tim just start beating the shit out of him. Once he got tired. But as interesting because Tim has the opposite of push announce his body, right? Like, he doesn't have the best genetics just tough and people think that that that push the setup is going to be but actually. For it's very hard to fight somebody like him, very hard, very hard. Well, he's also got massive experience comes. I mean, he's fought literally everybody any good all over the world door. And. Yeah. Yeah. Me fought he fought the grates. He fought Andrea lofty when our Laskey was straight up murderer or Laskey was in his prime. Yeah. Randy co tour, you know, when Frank near broke his arm, and he tried to keep fighting. Yes. You too, right? That. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. I remember the crowd was Bouin blue. I was like guys you need to look at this. Yeah. No. That's a that's a that's let me tell you about that. Because that was a fun story. 'cause like they. I hadn't really as one the first times. I think they trust him you the championship. And he, you know, the arm broke. I heard it. I saw it. And I remember, you know, I learned a lot. I learned a lot about my job, right? Then because I what I do is. I backed off, and I let the doctor come in and examine them because like, you know, sometimes when you're dealing with an expert. You don't wanna clout the way you're supposed to get out of the way. Thank you, don't go to the mechanic and tell them what to do. So my mind was thinking like that about the doctor. And so, of course, he comes in. She doesn't know what he's what she saw. So he misguided and says, I think he's worried about this. And then she's like, hey, no, nothing's wrong. And I was like oh, man. In my mind. I was thinking is it was it's been great being here. But on whether it'd be this anymore. Had been. We made that switch already in your. I swear I was like in my mind. I was thinking that I was thinking about how to get out of there when they start throwing stuff. Oh, the military camp. Remember, they're open wrestle with the Samoan trying to get in there and people just screaming. Yeah. Here. It is. Other. Other break that was an awful one. So I was thinking about that. And then, you know, but then you found it. Yeah. You saved me. Like, I was thinking that. My retribution was going to be like some kid on the internet two weeks later like I found out his arm broken. But you've found the spot. And so then I was watching the replay on. I was like let's take a look at this. Hold on. Hold on. What's that? Arm. That's a broken arm. That bar is broken look at that one more time and I had the truck roll about. And then it went into the octagon. And I remember saying immediately like you guys need watch this like he would go let's play this. Here we go that's a broken arm. So I'm going to think you for that right there because about half would have been different. It was one of those things where I felt an obligation to not just interview the fighter but to explain to the entire crowd. Like, you gotta listen. This is a little crazy crazy to me too. This is a broken arm. Like, this guy's fucked right now, three places and Tim. Thank you afterwards for saving his career. Because it said if you didn't stop that fight and that became a compound fracture. Fuck man, horrible things happen when the bone breaks through the skin. Yeah. What what happened? I saw him afterwards. And I said men, did you know your arm was broken. And he told me he goes. Yeah. I know wasn't what was your plan. Where are you trying to continue? So I knew I had a minute before the pain really becomes. Here's an wash this part. Right snap right there. I mean that is one hundred percent a double double break both parts of the both bones of the forum snapped in half, and it's an unusual break. Because of where it is just shows you how fucking strong Frank Mears arm bar, and how long them is also. Weird as house arm went back into place. How young muscular I talked to the doctor. They say that happens sometimes with athletes the muscles. Just right. Yeah. Well, he had a plea put in there forever. It's still in. There looked me young fresh face. Joe Rogan man that was young Frank looks crazy. He looked so lean and young. And he's a big old giant, dude? Now, he was a fantastic commentator. Yeah. No. He's a really good comedy. Really? Good commentator amazed that no one's snatched him up to do commentary. Well, you know, it's funny. He was working for ACA. Yeah. He stopped though. He was he was there. He was there for a while his commentary. What's weird is he always he's as a commentary when I listen to him, his commentary and also just talking to him. He always comes up with an angle that I never think of and it makes sense. It's worth hearing. You're like oh was like what's Franken say about this? Sometimes he gets them rid angles. Very smart, dude. Very well. Read due to really misunderstood guy in a lot of ways. But fran. Was I think it was one of the Lessner when he fought listener either before the first fight of the second fight. Yeah. I forget which fight. It was he said he wanted lesson to be the first death inside the inside the cage. And the you have C is like what the fuck are you saying that then they pulled him out of the commentary for saying that and he's like, look, I'm just talking up a fight. And that was it. He was doing WBZ at that point. Remember, right. Right. Right. Did he was really good, man? I remember listening to his commentary. I'm like sky, his it's I I'm a big fan of former fighters doing it. I think they do the best commentary. He does great. Come the. Yeah. Daniel Daniel corner is fantastic is really good. You know who else? I like I like, Dan hardy, Dan Hardy's. Excellent. Dan vary. He's actually kind of morphed into I mean, he really is as solid as anyone as in including myself as like is doing professional commentary. He stood as anybody when we're talking about two. Oh, fellas. Got he's standing that one that that's where I learned definitely. That when the doctor with the deal that they don't know what we all take for granted that the arm. So that was kind of my fault. Now, definitely always tell them. Look, this is actually what happened this what I'm worried about this particular part, you know. Oh, yeah. That's got to be huge for you. Because like if a woman gets into the octagon or a man, and they they don't know anything about the sport. They're just there because they're a doctor, right? Have no idea. What the fuck, and I didn't I didn't even know it seems like that should be the first thing I thought about but yeah, I did. Long time ago, bro. Yeah. How many do you think you've called no out of thousands and thousands? A lot of thousands. Not crazy. Yeah. She really stop. And think about all that experience. Do you? Do you do seminars for young up and coming round? I just did it this weekend. Yeah. We're out in Pasadena. Oh, so you know, you can go on my web site. Find about her Dane dot com. Also, you could follow me at her Dana may may on Instagram. That's usually do stuff. We linked that on Instagram page. We'll know posted the picture you with the blowtorch. Okay. All right, cool. I'm worried to see this explosion of followers. Right. It's common baby and comes close it. Yeah. So I I do it. It's a just did it. It's it's a cool thing because I like doing it because it makes me better every time. It makes me have to think about things. I I look at that. So we spent three days doing it. So about teaching anything, right? Yeah. Yeah. It makes me makes me a lot better. And I always dread it when when I'm going to do it because sometimes it just address doing. And then I haven't finished a whole part the other part. I don't like is. I have to say, no. No. Because I it's four certificate and certificate is what you need a certificate to get license. And so some people aren't going to see the certificate. So they can come in, you know, take the seminar, but there is screening right? Yeah. So the first day, they they we we go over a bunch of stuff, then they teach me some technique, and you're gonna mean, and so we understand that they understand what's going on in there. And so as far as for judging how to evaluate what these guys are actually doing. And then so when you say they teach you technique like they'll you you'll say to them. Hey show me how to set up like I go to. So we we do it in. We do it in Pasadena. So I do it at the at the courtyard Marriott right there. We got classroom than I can walk two blocks down and take one block to the right? And be a savant savant. Yong's fight academy. Go right there step straight onto the mat. We do a warm up where we get to see a lot of stuff. Okay. Yeah. Show me arm drags. So me this. We get a lot of information. You know? All right. Yeah. Show me a pass. I mean that that then I haven't yet teach me a triangle teach me by the numbers teach me, you know, as it was taught to you or like, and I don't care if you learned it on the internet, but why do you like it? And would maybe what do you do different to make it work for you? And just talk me through it. Give me as much information as they can one guy this weekend took my course. And he gave me so much. I meant I couldn't wait every time. It was going who's really good. He was a really detailed instructor. But he was really good. Then the, but I learned got a lot of information from some of the other people who I thought was going to be good. Because in the beginning, we tell why we're here sound like I had a high level class. A lot of them weren't then know much about they didn't know enough about position and submission. How many guys do you think want to be referees? But have no experience in martial arts. Well, I think a lot I think it's common, you know, on my website. It lets people know like, hey, physical demonstration of 'em may technique is is required to achieve certification. Can come out, and you know, take the seminar, and if that's fun for you, which is cool. Right. Hats off to you know, because of Letton slide you can do it your weekend. But if you want the ticket you need to understand the techniques. Yeah. At a level that you know, they teach at a detailed level enough because you have to understand the details to make it successful. And that's why you have to if you're going to evaluate it as a judge. You know, you have to know why it wasn't successful. And you're going to have to be able to talk it through why you gave credit to something or didn't give credit to something. So this is for judging in referee, judging and referee. So the first day I do is judging and then the judge is the referees for my the way I do my certificate. If you want to be a referee. You have to be able to judge also because everyone assumes that you can and they'll throw you in the judge's seat. So all right. Interesting touching training. Oh, if you do a small show or something like that trying to that. Yeah. Yeah. Small show. So we used to have this thing where Debravo used to score the fights in doing rounds. It was excellent. What was good about? It is Eddie would. Break it down on a piece of paper. He would have a right calm and a left com. Like right com. Would be you left home be Jamie. And then he would right. Okay. Turbo. Took him down three times. Herb almost got an arm bar. Herb landed five kicks, Jamie, cried a lot. That's what it would say. No. But you don't saying it would say, and then he would add it up, and he would say this is why I think he won the round this guy had better position. But this guy landed the big shots. This guy got hurt. But he almost got caught in a submission. So I gave it real close. But I gave it ten nine to this guy. And so you'd get a better understanding like how Howard Letterman used to do betterman used to do it for. I think get saying like, so that's one of the things that we don't really have an our sport. Like, a you know, the way we score around. We don't really score because we don't we don't have a rubric where we're giving signed value for techniques as they happen. So we don't that's not what we're doing. And also, and but I think that's a good idea for training. It's hard to do it. The way Eddie does that live around because. Who can write all that? What I'll take your eyes off for a second. Right. Right. And you take your eyes off just for one second. You miss you might miss something that was huge. And so so that's why a lot of commissions. You know, what I think Eddie what he did was he had like he wrote kicks punches. He has a city shorthand system. I guess X's onsides every time someone took someone down to put a little and I encourage people to do that. And so that's what I do. Like, I, you know. Well, I tell them I show them other like different people have different systems of shorthand to take some notes because in the back you want you're gonna wanna have some notes, especially when when the matches are done, you know, this they'd say there's a split decision or there's a split round. There's an outside judge. Everybody's going to be getting their their game together. The reasons why they gave it that way. So that you're going to have to be able to talk about. So that's a good way of scoring around. His preparing yourself to be over to talk about what you actually saw what happened and context to the scoring criteria. That's awesome. And then this certificate is from you is that how this is from me, but recognized by certain organizations that are going to make it so that you can get a job. So as from me and here in the United States is registered recognized by the association of boxing commissions. And if you're going to apply to the camel here in California, you're going to have to have a certificate of training before you apply to the amateur or before you apply to let's say, the boxing commission out in Tennessee to Athletic Commission out there, or the Athletic Commission Vata they're only going to hire people who have taken. A course that's recognize that John does one as well. Couple of other people do them. That's excellent. Yeah. At big John's is coming up in June that fight week weekend. Does a big one June six and seven I just did my June sixth and seventh where do you know, the Nevada? If you look for his for social Muser UFC card that we can. Yeah. Yeah. To sway does it. Then. Yeah. I'm just giving giving giving a plug to my competition. But it's okay. Yes. Okay. The end of the day, we want people to get some get training. Get information. Well, John is not competition anymore. Now, he's a commentator, but for my training from nine he's never as competition as a referee. We we're trying to do. But as far as for my course, I want Br I take my course, what if they're not gonna take mine. I want him to take his he's he's awesome. That's yeah. That's a few a few guys that I get very excited when I see that. They're refereeing. A big fight on Mike. Okay. John. John definitely big John. I know. Yeah. I've always felt very comfortable. Damn. He's been in there from the very beginning from the beginning. I mean, there is not a person alive that has more old school credibility than big John and more high level fights. Oh, yeah. And he's seen at all the good the bad. You remember Marilo Bustamante versus Matt Linlin? Oh, yeah. He he had a tap them twice. Yeah. John stopped it. And then Matlin Lynn complained. They let them fight again. Oh, you're gonna go bring up. Yeah. Up though that over what about the other one to right Conan? And oh, yes. Araba in Japan. The Japanese made them fight again on the same night went in the fuck is that ever happen happening ever? And that was from a punch to stop from punch right drop down grabbed hold the ankle coin feel, but that's the way soccer, Abu shoot. Yeah. He's he's he shoots like looks. Like, you know, like he's going out. Yeah. Yeah. And then caught Conan in an arm bar in the second fight the second time, they fought that night that and that was like crazy. We couldn't believe Brazilian Jiu. Jitsu black book get tapped Ma like what what and stock Raba who smaller than him what? And then we realized who soccer, rob soccer. Rob was he to me really carried the flag of catch wrestling Karl Gotch style of submission holes. More so than probably. Anybody else? Oh, ever fought in MMA. Yeah. Definitely his style was all Comoros and arm bars member when he used to tape his legs. I believe like the guy could barely walk. Yeah. How fuck was. He fighting so good his legs would be Mumma five doing submission wrestling. Now, right. He's fighting funding. Quintet right now. Yeah. Yeah. He fought a his crew fought Eddie Bravo's crew right now, my friend, Richie tapped him, my friend, Richie Martinez boogeyman. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Lot for the right to deal with it. Unless you're one hundred percent full-time, grappler and got nasty Dr jokes automated ours. Yeah, he's got that all that break dance. And he's his flexibilities were with. It's and his his dexterity. I feel like, you know, there's some people you say, okay. He's good. There's some people you look at it. So like, I've never got the, you know row with him. But he looks like one of those people that like you. Don't know what it feels like until you feel it. But yeah, yeah. He's very strong. Yeah. His brother is too strong too. But then they came from that break dancing background where they have the ability to manipulate their body. So it's almost like a gymnast right right there. But maybe even more. So because they're like do a lot of stuff where they're standing on one arm bouncing around the Lotus position. Yeah. On one arm arm handstand with their legs crisscrossed up in the air. And they're bouncing around it make you wanna give up. No need for me to do this that yoga man, you get you're going to be amazed. If you keep with how much dexterity improves and your balance approves and everything, but we were talking about it before the podcast started that it's so good for your old injuries, especially that hot yoga. Oh, I'm I mean, you know, I'm I'm probably a little bit annoying right now. I'm like a little Bickham yoke evangelist. Brazilian Jiu jitsu blue belts. I'm been born. Again, you know, vicar of yoga. Yeah, I'm guilty as charged do that shit. All the time. I do that with everything I like them get annoying. It's fun. I I've been doing another country's too. So that really when I don't take when I take those breaks. That's what gets me, you know, derails me. So I'm like, you know, I'm gonna do extra work find a place when I get there. So I got to go do it in Prague, and and Warsaw Saint Petersburg. And there's a little different flavor. You know what I mean? So it's cool. That's dope. Yeah. I'm I'm a big fan. I like to do it on the road to mostly I do it at home. But it's just. Also that strain that ninety minutes. I think is like meditative there's music you just in the poses for ninety minutes. It's cleansing. Yeah. Releases. You're all the bullshit you hold onto your brain. Just the sweeps that out the door. Now it helps with all that her team. We've been talking for three hours a really believe that shit. Wow. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. By it, would you know, actually, it's kind of cool because we hang out what he said a lot this the first time we got to talk for three hours. I know. Right. The for years every dinner together or hang out at the fights like brief conversation. If it's at the airport. You know, what I mean spun pissed that you're not going to be in Atlanta this weekend, man. Yeah. I know what the fuck. How does that work? Like, how do you know when you do and don't sometimes they call me, and you know, there's some athletic commissions. I know we're going to call me island. I thought would be one of those that because I've usually done it when they've been there. I've done it. How often do they tell you in advance? They don't tell me that. Sometimes they tell me sometimes not so far. So some. Commissioners. They you know, they get on board. Like I got called about. Minnesota pretty early. He reached out. He was aggressive about getting me on there. And he was like man, I really appreciate that figure. Like, yeah. The meme make wants to make sure I'm there this Brazil show coming up Cristiano the commission. He reached out to me a long time ago. Beautiful and said, hey, man, I'm going to make sure your card who the Brazil car them on that card. Look that up. Let's see who's on that card. I think there's there's some good fights. There isn't Aldo fighting on that card. He's got like a big fight on that card. All those in a comeback surge right now after knocking out and not McConnell. I mean, those gigantic. It might not be labeled yet sometimes like the doesn't put it up on its website. You know, they don't put it up. What's that Eunice? Oh, rose. Is that Jessica on drudge woo? Oh, yeah. And who that goes a little pit bull. Just gone drugs to terrify. Did you see that knockout of caroliina Ivanka vich? Yes, she Kayode her with an overhand Riley Jesus. Anderson Silva Jared cannon near holy shit. Although that's right. Full canal ski that's a fuck and fight. Although and Alexander Volkov ski Poconos sqi is a fucking juggernaut little dog still throwing down. All these years later against Ryan spent Iago Alvis against star poli. I don't know the gentleman man PJ Penn versus Klay Guido. What what? Damn, okay. All right. That's a good card, man. What days that Jamie, eleventh OSHA might have to fight companion? We haven't had a fight companion forever. Herb you should sit in on one of those. If you're in town, then look to they're the best. Yeah. Okay. People get ridiculously hammered. And if Eddie Bravo starts throwing around conspiracy theories. You gotta check you watch. Right. Look at the time. So yeah, we'll drink some beers and stuff like that. Okay. Gene. Yeah. Hats I'm open right now, make it happen. But I'll be there. You'll be all you will be there ahead of time. Yeah. Cillian one. Okay. We'll get you in for one of these. We should get because let's most of the time. It's not the four of us most of the time it's like two or three. 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The 2018 Helwani Nose Awards

Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

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The 2018 Helwani Nose Awards

"Hey, everyone. It's your old friend area. Hawan? I can't thank you enough for joining me on New Year's Eve. And boy did you make the right choice. We're going to be counting down to the new UFC on ESPN era that starts at midnight tonight. But also looking back at two thousand eighteen we're giving out awards of special guest. It's going to be a great time. Let's do this. Days and gentlemen. Welcome to. Wani's? Am. Back in your life on this Monday, December thirty first two thousand eighteen HOGAN, everyone, I'm Mary a Hawaii welcome to the program. I've been doing the show my friends for nine and a half years nine and a half years. We started in a broom closet if you would've told me back then June of two thousand nine that. I'd be right here on ESPN two ringing in the new year and also ringing in an ushering in the new UFC on ESPN era, which commences at midnight. I would have said you're crazy. But I have to say this is a massive honour. We were gonna have so much fun for the next hour. Please sit back, relax. Grab your loved ones. Maybe a blanket or two and just enjoy the show because two thousand eighteen has been a crazy year in the world of mixed. Martial arts, amazing, knockouts and finishes and fights drama storylines, all kinds of stuff. So we are going to give out today on the program nine team. Eighteen awards. Yes. It is the most robust award show in all sports. It doesn't get any bigger than this nineteen hell Wani knows awards. It's the two thousand eighteen hell Wani knows award show. We're giving out knock out of the year submission of the year. Fight of the year round of the year fighter of the year for males and females. But also, we've got some fun once like poster of the year promo of the year rivalry of the year, a personal favorite of mine. Feel good moment of the year. I mean, the list goes on and on is going to be so much fun. But like I said we are also going to be counting down to midnight. Because when the clock strikes twelve the brand new the highly anticipated. Much-awaited UFC on ESPN era. Commences it's going to be fantastic. We're going to have the two men who are headlining the very first you have ESPN plus show on January eighteenth Brooklyn, New York, Barclays center TJ dillashaw, Henry Suharto, they'll be joining us at the same time and throughout the program as well. We're going to be hearing from the majority of our winners, some live some taped it's going to be great. And what I love so much about this particular year as I probably should take off my glasses. Now. Taking them off putting them right here. But I think I'm going to be in the back later on what it looks so much about this year. My friends is that there are some years where let's be honest, the Pixar kind of no brainers. This was a tough one. I had a lot of hard choices to make. I had. I mean, honestly there we're probably like two or three no brainers the rest were tough. And so with that in mind, let's kick things off with maybe the hardest one of the mall the hardest of the nineteen. Submission of the year. Because there were some great ones mission of the year two thousand eighteen seconds. Jordan. Kill again. Try for it. Ezekiel choke finish graph the whole that like man he does it with perfect technique. He's so good. Roles. He's got his legs. Perfect -sition. He turns the he'll and it's just nasty. Trying to take down Jacobson with four now are. Jay. Where arts is my favorite sport of plant. Sued. I mean, a lot of great ones. But guess what? None of those actually one. Let me tell you about the night back in September of this past year. Great state of Texas Dallas to be exact it was UFC two twenty eight. And we're there in my opinion. It was one of the great nights of the year. We'll be talking about that event later on as well. But one interesting thing happened during the prelims Alger means sterling the man who looks to call himself, the funk master pulled off an amazing submission against Cody statement this God is back. He's got the figure for a look at that. He goes for the leg. That's called a pseudo web stretch by friends and up until this point. It had only been done one time before Tenny Robertson Brock jar dean that was just the second time in US history that someone pulled off that maneuver and look at it the hamstring just pops the knee parts, it is incredibly painful, and it's named after a man named Amar it, by the way, lost my friend shelf son Faso's out. That's a great one. Guess what? Now, we're later literally an hour later. Zubi the dream the beat muzzle med Shari. Pau pulled off the same submission again up until that point. It had only been done one time before in the twenty five year history of y'all to twenty championship and back in September. At you see to twenty eight in Dallas, Texas. Two men pulled it off with an hour of each other zip beat Michael HR, pops omitting Brandon Davis with a very similar maneuver. Right. You just saw it look at that technique a little different. But for the most part that's the sewer web stretch just the third and you have see history. So we will start today's program my friends with history, we have never given out. I've been doing this award show for many years. We've never given out a co-winner to to different individuals were doing that right off the top submission of the year winner. Alginates sterling ends of muggle made Shari pob you both get it because you pulled off the same very very rare move within an hour of each other. It was too hard to pick just one it didn't seem fair. So I gave it to both. Let's hear from the two winners. Guys, you hear the news. I was selected as the winner of the twenty eight so much of the inter guess what? What coming strove twenty nine thousand nine hundred new years to get the crown kit the strap the unit backpack. Huma gist, what still kind of the human whatever you want. Thank you guys on the winner. Silence ideal in the show for the base of the series. All right. So there you see Jemaine sterling's of beat muggle made Sherry pub. I've never done it before I feel very strongly that there shouldn't be too winners. But in this case it had to be done, and guess what? Both individuals are on deck. They've got fights ready signed for twenty nineteen algebra sterling reading Jimmy Rivera on February seventeenth beat muggle Shari pof- fighting Jeremy Stevens on March second to huge fights for both individuals looking forward to seeing what they do next. All right. We got plenty more to come my friends. Eighteen more awards. We're going to hear from the headliners on the very first UFC on ESPN cart. It is a great night to just be an EMMY fence, sit back and relax. We've got so much more fun slated for all of you. Do not go anywhere. The show continues. Happy new year everyone. I love you. Welcome back to the show my friends. I hope you're joining your New Year's Eve, I still can't believe they let me do this. This is unbelievable. This is surreal stuck. This is a dream. Come true. I'm so honored to be here. We're having so much fun. We just gave out these emission of the year ward. Now, we turn our attention. My friends to knock out of the year who doesn't like a great knockout. Right. Everyone loves that. You always kind of wish that fight ends in a knockout secretly deep down. Perhaps. Maybe you're one of those anyhow so many great knockouts here. Here's a closer look at what we saw. Picks. There was an elbow. Oh my God. Oh my God. What algal Riga football angle guys? I don't mean to dismiss anything. You're just did. Because that is on the believable. While I was all at the buzzer. Wow. The book. Two. For the two shakes under sin sold back in two thousand eleven. Liotta shrank in. But she is. Favorite part of that? She did not by the way the way he stands over Belfort afterwards. Unbelievable stuff. Three great choices, some more that have to mention the news just knocking out. Chris cyborg first time in cyborgs career that she's knocked out your marrow's knock out of Luke Rockall back in February. Of course, Marlin had KO gets Jamir very June, and who could forget Nico price with the Hammerfest kale from his back against Randy Brown, all very good choices, but we had to go with the first one that you saw historic in many respects the latest knockout in UFC history. Four fifty nine of the fifth round on the twenty fifth anniversary show just a couple of months ago year. Rigas losing the fight Bates Koreans ambi- into rushing him with ten seconds left, and then he knocks him out with the upwards elbow. I can't see enough of that knockout one of the greatest knockouts not only this year, the greatest arguably the greatest of all. Time in the history of the sport. Plenty more awards to come can't wait to see. What's next? It's always fun when it's live. My friends will be back right after this. Moment that I got signed vows. The best mother for two thousand eighteen getting engaged is one of the better moments. Get through through this fight. My favorite pot of twenty thousand was probably making Europe CD. Welcome back to the program. I hope you are enjoying your New Year's Eve. Thank you. So very much for joining us on this New Year's Eve twenty eight teen as we look back at the year that wasn't mixed martial arts. And of course, look ahead to the new ESPN era. If you're one of those people who has been watching the show for nine and a half years, you know, that technical difficulties are staple of the program. So we apologize for not hearing your has. But rest assured he was there and he did win or knock out of the year ward. So thank you very much to him. We shall talk them in the future. Now, one of the fun parts of these word shows, in my opinion, one of the awards is rounded the year because it's very easy to give someone fight of the year. Two very easy to give a fight of the around a singular round that lives in a vacuum. That's tough because you have to really comb through all the footage all the data. This was a really hard one. My friends. Let's take a closer look at some of the rounds of twenty eighteen. Man was appropriate years before going the distance of the first team. Next there. The jazz big beautiful right hand. But it's right over the top the gem. Beautiful conducted. And then he's kicking your late twenties which stance. Exist. We just. See what I mean all super tough ones. But in the end, I went with steep Amyot ch- versus Francis and gun who back in January of this past year, you have to twenty and yes, I know this might be controversial. In fact, our entire production team disagrees with me, and I feel very very strongly so strongly about this one. I can't even tell you. I will tell you look those were great rounds. And by the way, there are many more. There's a ton that you choose from. I had to whittled down to three those three that I chose. But in the end, I went with Francis and gun new versus TBO church. I understand here. We are December thirty first you think back to that. It's so long ago, it's essentially year on your say like what go back to that night in Boston. Go back to the energy go back to the tension. Go back to Francis. Got new knocking out what he did in Detroit a month and a half prior. Remember the way over his head cocked back. From the knockout, everyone thought one punch and Ghana would knock out Steve Yokich, and he would do it. And he would decapitate them. Remember all the hype? All the buzz surrounding Francis and gun knockout power. So when that started I felt like I couldn't breathe I couldn't blink the tension at the TD garden. Boston was something. I've never felt before because it was two heavyweights in my opinion. It was the most interested heavyweight title fight since Cain and JD in two thousand eleven and when they stood toe to toe in the middle of the cage. Everyone thought one punch head is flying. Back didn't happen Indian he survived his best punches. And in the end. He ended up winning the fight via decision. And I know the last four rounds are, you know, not the best in EMMY history. Put a mildly and the flake slowdown consider considerably. But in this particular, first, round, go back and watch it. I watch the today just to remind myself because I was getting so much heat for this pick. It was incredible. The tension was unlike anything it was to behemoths it was the irresistible force meeting. The movable object wrestlemainia three back in the day. It was unbe. Eveb UIL and steep aid that his best to avoid all the big shots took some big shots gave his own. It was amazing stuff. So in the end, that's my round of the year. If you disagree. Well, that's what's fun about all this. Let's hear from Steve Roach. Trump cards per se, it's real honor best round here. He's lots. Shape. Love expect more around this year coming up since I was gonna say you. You guys again and enjoy your holidays. Of course, a ended up losing his title in July. But what a great night that was for him. What a great round that was we will be seeing the F or mention Francis and gun. Ooh. Back in action on February seventeenth, very first main card on ESPN, Phoenix, Arizona early prelims as you see on ESPN. Plus that we go to the premiums on ESPN. And then the headliner look at that fight Francis gun who gets the pride of Arizona. The former Zona state university superstar the former UFC heavyweight champion the man who has not fought since two hundred km Alaska's returning how does that play Francis? Got to force did not have a great summer ended up losing to their Louis, but then came back with vengeance. In Shanghai, November defeating Curtis blades. And now I'm looking forward to that. That's going to be great. All right. So that's rounded the year next up one of my face. Parts of MA the walkout. It's a loss. Start in a sense. I love it. There were some great ones not a ton of this year. But the ones that were great. They were great one of them. Hawaii just a couple of weeks ago Biltmore flyweight champion Lima lay McFarland the eliminator. Remember that moment big MA's return to Hawaii. She walked out. What a great book. She's crying. It was emotional. If you forgot here's a reminder. The greatest night and Bill tour history McFarland ends up winning in front of the partisan crowd. She is crying unbelievable moment, you'd think that was my winner. It wasn't. That's how good our winner is look at that moment. I'll tell you my winner right after the break nocco anywhere. Happy new year counting down baby. My favorite award one of them. I should say this one this is the winner. And he went Reisen thirteen she came out to smooth criminal by Michael Jackson. Look at those dance moves you can't beat that. We could hit by or. Yes. Maybe one of the greatest walkouts all time. Andy wind rising thirteen here. She is accepting Johnny knows the work. Thanks for having me. I'm honored to have won twenty eighteen of the year globally on rising thirteen a lot that to smooth criminal by Michael Jackson, had a really tough time this past summer. One of my best friends is getting hurt in the whole weekend was any are you? Okay. That was part of the lyric of that song end it worked out perfectly kind of like a tragedy, but beauty specis anyways. Thanks for having me. So I'll be honest. I picked that walkout because I thought it was phenomenal the dancing was incredible. She put a lot of thought into it. It's great in Japan. Saitama reminded me the pri- days, and then I spoke to her about the walkout, and of course, took on a whole other. Meaning as she said her teammate, Andrew Lee had a very tough year. Her husband Donny, Aaron accused of domestic violence, and he referred to her as any that's her nickname, and that was to support her friend. And so then the whole meaning and these significance and the symbolism of the walkout took on a completely different. Meaning for me. And so I appreciate it even more that she would do that on her way to a fight a big fight against Yamamoto that you would do that in support of her friend who was there flanking her down the ramp to the ring. So a beautiful moment. Thank you very much. Andy win great stuff and what dance moves. Holy smokes. That's moves that you probably would wanna break out on on New Year's Eve that was incredible stuff. And in a way, captures the essence of what makes Japanese anime. So great that they are able to do walkouts like that. So amazing choices predate it very much. Congratulations to anyway. Now, let's move along to crowd of the year and crowd is a very interesting one as well. I know a lot of crowds very proud of the way they support their stars. And the fight game and whatnot. There were three that came to mind to me in terms of finalists. Let us begin with one that we just talked about it at longtime coming for Hawaiian 'em may to have a big show Bila tour was the first to get their Bill to twelve to thirteen twenty plus Hawaiian fighters on those cards. What a scene was when Olympic Farland capped it off the win over. Valerie Latourelle look at that crowd flags. The love the shock shockers. The flower. It's all great. I loved it. So that's finalists number one finalists number two. And I'm not saying they're finalists because I am a proud Canadian. But if you were in attendance in Toronto in December, you know, how hot that crowd was power pound one of the best crowds in all of them. As to Ronco always shows up, regardless of the depth of the card main event, max hallway, Brian tak-, they were going back and forth with Teigen hallway chance they were phenomenal. They showed up for the ceremonial wains. What a great crowd. Toronto was. But they didn't win. Guess what? They didn't win crowd of the year kind of no brainer. In the end Liverpool. In the United Kingdom echo arena. They had been clamoring. They had been begging for the UFC to finally come to the echo Rena. They were waiting for the white guy to make it happen. Darren till made it happen. What a scene it was. Sweet caroline. Beautiful stuff. He fought. Stephen Thompson in the main event, I loved it so Liverpool you win my crowd of the year. I think it was somewhat of a no brainer. They were hot. They were ready. They were excited. They loved it. Amazing. Darren till I loved it. And by the way, great win for him in the crowd pop afterwards. And they were there for Molly McCann and as of right now the returning to London in March. Okay. What is next next? We are going to talk about feel good moment of the year. I have said in the past that this isn't your typical award. This isn't the kind of word that you usually see, but it's actually one of my favorites. Because I feel like a lot of times we focus, you know, on the on the punches kicks. And sometimes negatively this is a moment that I think we all will remember, it's one of my favorite winners of this particular war because of all the emotion involved. Let me tell you about a man named Matt Hughes. Hughes was one of the very best. You have. The best welterweight champion of all time. He was country. Void tough. He was as tough as they come his fight against Frank Trigg. And you're looking at it right here. Look that on the verge of being submitted somehow survived and somehow picks up Frank Trigg and walks across the cage, and then slams him and then submits him that's mad Hewson nutshell as tough as they come sadly, June of two thousand seventeen he was involved in a car accident. He was in his car, and he was hit by an oncoming train early on the reports were horrific. There was fear that he might not survive. And for a while. We didn't hear much about him. We didn't see much about him. It just kind of remained silent. We had heard that he was fighting. But we didn't know how much he would recover and then in January of this past year in Saint Louis, Missouri match Hughes return and he walked out. Out on his own. And it was one of the most emotional moments in the history of the here. This. There you see what? The. Two. Seem to. Oldest? Unbelievable moment. I get goosebumps watching it. It makes me emotional. Matt one of the very best fighters have compete to see him come back from that. And walk down was was nothing. Short of amazing. I was honored to speak to him ten months later on my show about his recovery. But everything has had to overcome just to be able to walk and talk. It was it was an emotional interview to conduct. Here's a quick snippet from back in October. How are you feeling right now? How would you describe how you're feeling I I'm many percent? My spouse isn't good best, but I can vivid that I don't fall. But I just. If someone pushed me, I could stumble easy have the doctors told you that you will improve more or or are they saying that this ninety percent is unbelievable considering what you've overcome is this. How good is that it's going to get for you. I just keep thinking I'm going to get better. One of my favorite moments from that interview is you know, you don't really know what you're going to get because I hadn't talked to them before. And at the very end he asked me what shoes I was wearing. I've been known to wear some colorful shoes. And then I knew that Matt Hughes was back in that. He will come back, and we continue to support him and pray for him and hope that he makes a full recovery. The entire M may community loves mad Hughes respects him and thanks for everything that he's done. We're all pulling for you met another fight that we all think that you're going to win. So all the best Semaj Hughes and thank you for that moment. Back in January Matthews pulled off some great upsets he has come back. I saw just now that moment against Frank Trigg reminds me to me one of the great turnarounds in MMA, and you see history. Let's talk about upsets now, some tough ones. There was a big one that happened this past weekend. There was another one that happened in August in the same city, Los Angeles to be exact you f c to twenty seven to meet you. Johnson goes into a fight against Henry pseudo a rematch of fight that he's coming off against the Huta where he beat him in half around. No, one thought pseudo could win the Olympic gold medalist DJ, the longest reigning champion, and you have history the winning his champion in UCSD. The only flyweight champion UCSD. This is going to be a walk in the park in L A. Right. Nope. But see. Everything just shocked the world. Wli again to over V knocked out the last full round years at come into Peten. Amanda myth alleged bout of my mental. For you to believe. What a moment there for Henry Suharto? The now reigning defending UFC flyway champion. Of course, he returns to action on January nineteenth on the very first. You have see on ESPN card against TJ Dilshad the bantamweight champion who's moving down to fight him for his flyway title. There's the card. That's when the UFC on ESPN era of fishery begins my friends, January nineteenth from Brooklyn Barclays center. Headliner Henry pseudo TJ Bill shot get ESPN plus right now, Donald Surani versus Alex Hernandez. Randy Brown versus chance on colts is the early pre limb quite on. Yes. PM? Plus just tremendous stuff all around kicking off on January nineteenth that was the upset of the year. My friends there was some great ones. But that one to me, and I know some people will say man, the Nunez over Chris cyborg. But to me. Pseudo coming back after losing the ninety seven just amazing stuff for him to do that. Unbelievable. Okay. This is interesting because not only in my opinion was that upset of the year. That was also a nominee for fight of the year. Could Henry Huda walk away with two words, but we will be talking to Henry who in a matter of moments and TJ dillashaw. But for now, let's see if he actually won fight of the year as well. Here we go. What do we got? Robert Whitaker versus y'all Romero finalists number two. Because those each is number one what back in June back and forth. They went unbelievable that Whitaker wobbly it fully they were throwing sledgehammers at each other. That was back in Chicago. This one was amazing this year in November Madison Square Garden, Chris wideman versus Jacques it felt like the place was fought in the phone booth. The entire fight it literally like they're going back and forth in the in the end jock wins the fight. That was amazing. I couldn't blink throughout the entire. But in the end, I go back to Robert Whitaker says you're all Romero too. I feel like people sleep on this one because Romero miss wait ever so slightly before the plate. How what go back and watch it. It was unbelievable. Romero knocked Whitaker down in the third. He knocked down in the fifth. He took him down in Vienne somehow Whitaker pulled it off. For the broken hand Romero broke his orbital bone hasn't fought since that was an amazing fight those one of the best middleweight fights that I've ever seen back and forth. Again, it fully throwing axes at each other credible. That's my of the year. And I love it and watch it again today, and I couldn't get enough. Let's hear first from you'll Romero morning dies is sort of got. I wanted to say everybody happy new year. I hopefully, anywhere everyone. How good time. I'm. I want to say for especially from my own my findings thinking for support my career. I'm very excited happy because God bless me. Got my my knife. I have a good time and enough. I those are the last about is the I hear is a this fight us. Defy of the year. I wanted to say thank you everyone for support my career. God bless you. See some Saudi ungodly hair just wanna say thank you so much for the award for fun of the year. It was a good fight as hard fight. And I'm glad it's being appreciated. Thank you. So there you have it rubber Whitaker you over Merrill. Trust me, go back and watch it. Unbelievable flight. Great job by Robert Whitaker for winning. And of course, we will see him back in action on February ninth in Australia in Melbourne to be exact against Kevin gasoline defending his middleweight title. Can't wait for that fight. All right. Plenty more awards to come my friends, and we've got some special guests coming. We've got a who toll and TJ dillashaw coming up together at the same time. Yes, they will be speaking to each other. We've got the male fighter of the year. We got the female fighter of the year. We've got a lot more poster of the year new one I've never done this before much more coming up. After the break. It's been a great year. My friends. I hope you're having a great New Year's Eve. I can't thank you for joining me on this evening. Buckle up much more to come. I love you all and happy new year to all of you wherever you may be much low. We back. Those awards for twenty eighteen continued look at our trophy. Thank you very much, MRs level woods for making us this amazing. I mean, look at this thing. This is incredible. The most prestigious awards at all sports mazing. All right, as you know, fighters are great, and they get it done in the octagon. But if you don't have a good team, and in particular, great coaches in your corner winning anything. And so now, we turn our attention to coach of the year, and my friends just the super tough super tough. And I'll tell you why first of all Mark Montoya what a year he had factory X amazing Macy Barbara over there. You see all the great fighters that he's corner jeans Krause, Anthony Smith, an amazing list of fighters. They had a great year and feel like he is overlooked and not talked about enough. He deserves. A finalist. Mention captain Eric our scene. No one has ever campaign for an award more than him and his team Henry Sughu toe. The pit bull brothers Paolo costs. The an amazing team, captain, Eric you're the man finalists, you deserve it. And of course, have your Mendez head coach of the American kickboxing academy his right hand, man, crazy Bob cook. Daniel cormier, the double Chen, Habib ner muggy made of Luke. Rocco? Jon Fitch, the list goes on and on one of the most story can't in all of mixed martial arts in India. And it was so tough to really was please don't hate me. But I went with heavier Mendez increasing cook because of the history of Daniel. Pour me made because of the fact that he came back from getting knocked out against John Jones because of with a made up did. And because of what the Ron win and Sean bunch and all the up and comers at did. Have your Mendez cook, congratulations? You are my coaches of the year. Let's hear from crazy, Bob. I. It's an honor to be the coach of the year with Javier Mendez for ESPN. We've worked at this for twenty years, you know, and produced a lot of great guys. But you know, the main credit means to go to the guys or the one in there. Doing the sacrifice working there this yell ADEMA bunch. But you know, it's it's definitely honor. And to have all the hard work. We've done over the years recognized probably Mendez, and I wanna thank PIN. ESPN voting myself in the coke as coaches the year two hundred this Lord, I wanna thank all my coaches for helping into into this great success for us where they go my fighters, especially DC and be for winning their titles, respectively seem to them a great honor to be involved with them and look forward to giving you more years. I think two thousand nineteen and be another big year for us. So watch outbreak gay might repeat again, I struggled with this one. It was a tough one really a lot of great choices and have to say about aka particular because in the end, I do feel comfortable with that pick. They have enjoyed an evolution over the years. You know back in the day. They were just like the kick boxers. Of course, then it was a lot of welterweight. And now they've turned into a really I think a an all around great team. I remember in two thousand nine when they had their little issue with the UFC and the entire team was banned. And I happen to. Be there and have your Mendez. Let me watch his t meeting, and he said, no one will break us will never break. We're gonna stick together where family, and we'll get through this, and we'll get over this. And it was kind of it was kind of breathtaking for me to be there to be honest to watch it. I really appreciate him allowing me to be in that close-door meeting so to speak, and they've really come a long way developing champions, like DC developing champions, like Habib remained off. And of course, back in the day. Luke rock hold and came Velazquez coming back. We'll deserve -gratulations. I have mentioned also four seven may save. So the head coach over there. He deserves a mention also gene behrman city kickboxing also deserves a mention for what he did with the likes of Israel out of Sonya. Den Hooker, all the great fighters coming out of New Zealand to me, the coaches are often overlooked in the sport, they should not be and really you can give it to many. I mean, you can you can split this award in many different ways in the end. Oh, I go with Daniel Cormie as head coach have your mentors. And of course, crazy buff criminals live on crazy. Bob's floor. His first year he told me that back in November used to sleep on his floor eating hamburgers. Every night. They have invested in a lot of fighters. They have done what they had to do to build these fighters champions. Congratulations to them. All right. Speaking of Habib near Mogomedov, he was certainly in the news all year long his feud with Kana McGregor who can forget Brooklyn, New York. We'll be talking about that one at length after the break. Happy new year. Look at those people all over the world. They are celebrating the very first Helwan knows M A award show on ESPN two. It's raining in New York and they're still celebrating. That's how it cited. These people are that we're actually doing an award show ESPN two mixed martial arts. It's amazing. We'll see after the break. Gregor in custody after surrendering authorities in New York Thursday night McGregor and others lost their collective minds after you have seen news conference or this. The most disgusting thing that has ever happened history company. Habib actually got into it with one of teammates art, Abobo earlier this week about retaliation just pill the win with and that's it. Put a lube of fighting. The woman show is gonna fake lobbying rack smash meet you send location from if you're not outside the snow. I always think fetal you'll grip Nick is gonna that's not who soupy. Ted nell. You'll be dead. Jim. We have been preparing for war going be smoke of toba six. The. Aw. Be here. From April in Brooklyn to Tober in Las Vegas. What a six month stretch their involving the authorities and the bus and the Dalai I mean unbelievable it culminates with two Twenty-nine Conor McGregor evening muggy made up. They dominated the headlines all year long in particular that six months stretch against starting in April in Brooklyn, then culminating in October at T mobile arena rivalry of the year story of the year event of the year all of those. I mean, those guys just I mean there were on our minds a lot and at times it got a little heavy at times. It got a little deep at times. It got a little uncomfortable. But they deserve. Speaking of deepen uncomfortable and heavy and all those things let me say Hello to my partner, my co-host for aerial the bad guy, which you can see every Wednesday on ESPN plus chill p look at us. How are you? Errol? I am so happy for you, look tastic. I love the glasses. Tell you. If you wanna adding other awards, the show for acceptance speech of the year without question goes to Al Joe my rights, those great I mean, he was excited to win. He was I appreciate that. And there are more to come. So I can't give that award out. Just yet. They're more to come. But shale after say so story of the year right to me up until I don't know December twenty second. It was an old brainer. It was the first one that I wrote down story that you're of course, be and then John Jones happened and then you'll see two thirty to happen. And then the location change happened. And in the end, I was like, I can't believe this. But this story is actually making, you know, two twenty nine seem a little bit smaller in the end though. I went with ritual say they wanna have recently buys that. I make the right colored. You disagree was John Jones. And all that, you know, all that stuff that actually Trump what happened between Connor? No absolutely not unless I misunderstood. If you took him for headlines still goes to Connor be though, we did have a lot of fun with the drama. That's this past week. However, I thought it was widely of the year and without question even with Jones mess, unless you're talking about the rivalry between John Jones. And who saw it definitely goes to could be in Connor. Okay. So you grew me on that. Let's start in April. When all this went down initially. Remember, the running of mobile of and Bieb and the hell and then Connor flies. We actually disagree. He member we argued on ESPN two I believe back at the initial press conference. You didn't by the fact that he was coming there to support his French defend his honor. Now that it's over. And you've heard Connor tells side story, do you actually agree with me that he actually flew over there to help his friend. That's it innocent. No, no, no, no. I thought the way that you were presented in our previous argument that this was a sign of honor. This was a sign of loyalty to his friend. Wait a second. Nothing happened to our Arkham was in a home way. He be spoke of parents, it was compete speaking so close and actually putting his hand on him quite literally to reach up and touch him with the palm of his hand. They got got some kind of street cred Connor than this. No, I thought it was disgusting. I thought it was a crime the ended up in handcuffs. And I thought it it should be presented any other way than that. Okay. Fair enough. Speaking of being in handcuffs. I remember those two days of Brooklyn when he was in the courtroom, and you know, just being, you know, escort by the cuts that was surreal stuff at the same time to twenty three was was kind of in shambles. And they're looking for a new main event against be when you saw how it all played out. And you saw how the fans reacted to Connor in the aftermath is it possible that he actually became? More popular as a result of the criminal activity that he was a part of. Oh, of course, airline notorious always Trump's infamous always Trump's famous, and yes, he did some some of them for the right reasons. Some of the Robin did make you hate to say this because it acts as the we're justifying this action of way, but the reality if you look at the numbers it helped to make for a very special in meaningful fight, and you know, it's hard to get both of those guys to the table. It really is it's hard to get guys in there with con McGregor guys saying they want to do it because it's a big pain. Sometimes it's hard to get Connor in there because he needs to make sure he's got a corner that can meet of halfway in the media. So this is what really forced those guys in there together and the ones that profited from decipher what was all of us air that was the match we wanted to see with or without the Dolly incident. It just added that extra level of story line the guys like you. And I frankly love in hindsight, you think Conor made a mistake to take this fight. Storyline of side, obviously was one that had to happen because of the story line in the feud. But let's forget he was coming up two year layoff in hindsight. Should he have taken a fight? That was a little more. Oh, I don't know style friendly. No, I don't think. So, you know, I never think that that's a good play, particularly when you know, you are champion and your the highest paid guy. And you're the drawn you're in the industry looking you're going to be the leader go up there and be the leader. If you're going to take that money. You gotta take that beaten. I don't think that you should be able to have the vote ways. I think whenever you and high seen guy steering away from the rightful competition, and who decides that the ramp competition is air the fans when you're in a division, and you don't want to give the fans fight they want. I think that is very cowardly when it happens you, and I seem to hate it. When a guy goes in there, he stubs his knee skids, his the a little bit because you know, he didn't have a layoff and was a little bit rusty. If you choose to hang your argument on that hat. Listen, I just don't think that that's fair that we can have both ways. I think the top guys need to fight the top people, and we should be happy. And celebrate when they do regardless of the outcome because so we just saw the finish right of there. Of course, be ended up submitting Connor in the fourth correctly from Ronco remember sitting with you at T mobile arena. Seen. It was you actually thought Connor did a lot better in the fight that most people like I feel like now people look back at the fourth-round submission. He dropped me saw that. But I remember you actually praising conifers performance my wrong. We have understand. It was certain positions. Could be a great job in the fight could be had the upper hand in certain positions. We knew that we saw that going in that he was arrested heavy that he was top heavy. The guy's very difficult time getting him off a meeting matching with that pace. Look Connor came out in the very first round and was stopping and making be worked very hard for those take. I don't think Conor did fantastic job on bottom his own campus, come out set. Well, I was kind of our plan. We thought if we got taken down we weren't likely to get up because nobody else did. So we're just gonna hold on wait for the conclusion of the round, which means we're gonna start on our feet where we want to be in the next frame. That's not a great way to win a fight to which they conceded, another why they made this public knowledge. But I did think that Connor make could be worked very hard, particularly in that opening take Connor did win a round against could be this after could be officially not just on you and ice scorecards the official ones turned in CONNER had just lost a ten eight round. That's as close to being stopped that is close to being TKO as you can get he came. Back. He won around gets Kabaeva, and I should remind you in twenty six tries nobody's ever beaten could be. But nobody's even want around against him except for Conor McGregor who just been demolished. He collected himself. He recompose in that round in that one minute rest in the corner one around now, I think he used up all of his energy is getting stopped in the fourth. But overall, it was a very good fight was very competitive fight. If you wanna judge on a scale of Connor one around and nobody out of twenty six hundred tries can say as much so what's fun about this story. And this rivalry is that it's still developing because I have a feeling they will cross paths again. And of course, they have their little issue with the Vata on our last episode of Arie on the bad guy you wanted to make like some sort of gentleman's bet as to what kind of punishment that they would receive why not do it on ESPN two right here right now, what are you thinking? So they got the hearing coming up in January for even Connor their teammates are all sort of under the microscope here. But what do you think Nevada's gonna give them? Result of the melee that happened afterwards. Okay here. I'm surely guessing following about it, you know, if I will remind you before anybody was sanctioned mixed martial arts. It was the Vata first before that all the big boxing fights in the world took place in either New Jersey or in Nevada. Now, I realize that Texas tattoo rain, California has thrown his hat in the that's the way it used to be. And I always fall the commission very close. I think we have to start with an overlapping Fien victim Batta handled this perfectly era they were so upset tonight. You look at these photos right here. No, governor was in attendance commission works as some pleasure of the governor. So this isn't going to go over just wanna that it, basically, you know, what I'm going to say anything wanna do anything. We're going to spend the next meaningful time, which in this case is out to three months collecting every piece of video footage that we possibly can we're gonna look at every single off angle. And then we're gonna make our reaction. And the reason that I'm complimenting them is so many times agency. These people particularly government entities. We'll have a knee jerk reaction. They'll go out there. They'll look to scapegoat somebody they'll look to look at it front of their boss in this case, the governor they didn't do that this time they stood back a little bit it appears with some of the return of the money, it appears with them allowing some leniency in the timeframe that the athletes are gonna come for that Nevada has looked at this and said, you know, what there was enough blame to go around. And at the end of the day. Nobody got hurt. We don't like this could happen within our jurisdiction. We are going to discipline you for but we're not gonna put you out a year. Like some people have predicted. We're not going to your whole purse. Like, some people thought we would do as a matter of fact could be here is fifty percent also known as one million dollars. We're going to go ahead and return that to you now, which means now we're only playing with fifty percent of your money air. I think they're gonna come in heart on I think they're gonna come in somewhere in the twenty percent range, which represent withholding two hundred to four hundred thousand dollars of conceives money. Also. Presenting the biggest Percy's ever made in this life. But I think they are going to be a little bit more lenient on the time restraint. I realize that could be was already been punished in the form that he was not allowed to do post. By interview hear that announcement to hear Bruce buffer Saint have Dana white put the belt around. I think they're looking at saying, you know, what we've got one way we got two ways to get you. But we're only going to execute on one of them. Here's your license back. I really think they're going to do that. Wow. Okay. What a shocker that will be especially coming up. The John Jones situation may be Vada's is starting to get his act together. That's very interesting. Okay. So that was our story and rivalry of the year as I said a lot went into this card, and I predict when the first people chill who predicted that this car would do over two million. You said it was hogwash. She said it was not going to happen. You said wouldn't even crack a million if memory serves me, correct, Ma-maybe krecko. But I think I think you said that was being million to I said to off the bat, I was that coffin in for a minute and. Then it went up, and then it killed two million. It was like two point five or something like that. We don't know the exact numbers to twenty nine was a huge event not only because of Connor Habib, but the whole card delivered UC two Twenty-nine as my event of the year to me was a no brainer. When you have an event that breaks pay-per-view record when you have performances like Derek Lewis against Alexander Volkov, and of course, Tony Ferguson empty Pettus and many others. Michelle Waterson, dumb grace event of the year. Do greek. Era when you have an event that we're now talking about on ESPN and took place on October was at six. Okay. That's that's a meaningful amount of time ago in here, we are still talking about absolutely these guys win without question air, you want to know what was something very special for me was the level of production. Remember when Conor McGregor came out, and they had those smoke machines. But they only went like me high. So he's hit a billionaire strut through all of that fog. You got John Malkovich himself are evangelist of line that John Malkovich. Doing the voice over you. Will that was a fantastic evening and then out of nowhere. They switched to the Irish music and Connor comes out holding that flag, you know, in his hands over bull shoulders with that stone cold look on his face like he couldn't possibly care less about getting there with that was a meaningful. I'll tell you for me as a fighter. It was an inspiring evening. Yes. And less we forget you are scheduled to fight a week later. A lot of people thought you wouldn't come to work that night. But you actually told me sitting there, I asked you why did you come you said because you get inspired from moments like this, and I couldn't agree more. It was a great night now. That's right. Let me ask you chill rematch. A do you think it happens and twenty nineteen and be does it beat that pay per view record? If it does happen. Oh, absolutely. It's going to beat that record reported that two point four million. I don't know what they actually did. But I can confirm for you, the Khanna mcgregor's, then on the view, and he was paid as though it was two point four million. I think we're pretty safe in disclosing that number on the other side of that point. I do believe it's going to happen. I'm not certain that it's going to be next for those guys. Dana white laid out of rogue matting semi-final if you will of Tony Ferguson taking on Khabib, Dustin poor taken on conham Gregor. I'm not sure if either one of those guys loses I'm still not sure there's not a reason that we can't get those guys together if they both win and you have the champion versus the proven number one contender. Yes. Aero forget it. It will break all paper view box office records ever done in combat sports. I have no interest in converse. Poor yet to a sought it didn't last long with all due respect as a much better fighter. I like what you're selling with LeBron Ferguson. But if but if you're in charge, are you also going Connor versus poor. Are you going maybe the ATS or backs? Holy route. What are you thinking? Some of these speculations to white was poor. It's just what you said your complaints by people are speculating as what the promotion likes. Look Connors had a pretty rough one. Okay. He moves up a way class and takes on the world champion, Eddie Alvarez. He goes into a sport. He's never done before with a zero zero record and takes on the greatest to ever done in Floyd Mayweather. Then he comes back and takes on arguably the greatest 'em finer out there when you consider the Beavis the world champion he's twenty five and at the time twenty six now and had never lost a single round. I think there is some reflection. The perhaps the bosses say, you know, what we pay the guy a lot of money, but we've been dealing from the bottom of the deck from the beginning. They thought they were helping him out early in his career Errol. His second fight ever was against max home away. Just nobody knew who max what nobody's career over time has looked in. Appreciate it. More like a fine wine then Conor McGregor. So I think that your point is. Very fair. I think that you're accurate on that. I think they know that and I think maybe congress getting tossed one, and I'm not gonna try to present it in the other way. Okay. Back to two Twenty-nine wins event of the year, not only because of the main event, but because it was a great card and your call. We actually debated this on area on the bad guy. We were like us is the card is gonna live up. I mean as a deep enough all this stuff will everyone showed up everyone recognized that it was a big deal. I mentioned a few other performances, I know putting you on the spot here. But was there one or two performances of fight or two that really stood out when he think about that night in Las Vegas? You don't I'm really did. Enjoy what we saw on there with Pettus. I thought that that was a very special fight. But over all if I'm being real fair to you. You know, flip Derek Lewis non for nothing. But that was a bit was are what I took every Keeble pleasure in Yeary all of those people doing and going crazy. There was something about his got us meant look highs in the low from dunk shin standpoint, nothing was like it though. I don't think Bill type and Tissot patient any better than what we saw. I remember very well it was it was the greatest of the year. Great calling Lewis also Dominic rates with great performance, Michelle Waterson. But since you bring up yes era. Yes. Derek Lewis took his pants off and got a title fight. Okay. You can't make up storylines like that. That is what happened and it was beautiful. See this is what I love you chill. This is what we have what we call the business chemistry. We don't know you don't know what's going on where we're not usually like in the meetings on the same page so to speak Roy's on the same wavelength because you knew exactly where I was going next. Derek Lewis promo of the year. He literally took his pants off and got a tunnel shoddy also like seven hundred thousand more Instagram followers. It was amazing. Let's relive that. Great moment from Derek Lewis after his win of Alexander Volkov. With the winds. Lewis turk. Watch ticket pants off balls is hard. I understand you came in his fight the number to contend with that knockout, you absolutely one of the top guys in line for the title next. So tell us what you think about that. I knew Cima Blanca. Cima? Blanca caudill ten Miller. From Tartu enough. Of course, he was wrong. And he ended up getting title shot like three weeks later. This was a no brainer. There isn't even a number two or number three finalists failed. You agree. That's what you an ice chemistry one about Derek. And Joe Rogan. I mean is this the Abbott and Costello come on these guys understood what another one of them off because the ball's Joe Rogan, I understand. I mean, come on air that is a delivery right there. That's two geniuses at work. Yes. Tremendous, even go to Popeye's deal all that stuff. In more. Let's hear from Mr. Black Beast himself. Dirk Lewis accepting our two thousand eighteen promo of your word. Wanna think everyone for vote me promoter year? ESPN get ready. You ain't for some crazy stuff in two thousand nineteen. I could have bet my life that he was going to make some sort of reference to you know, the testicular fortitude. He didn't do it. He kind of gave me a swerve on the acceptance speech. I thought he was going to do it. That's the brilliance. You know, what he always gives you what you want. But never you're expecting. I was expecting the same thing. When you're brought on for promo of the year. You've got in the words of the rock you've got to cut a promo like he was half asleep. I think that was great. I actually beg him to do that. I don't think he really wanted to by the way little nuggets for you. You have the nose awards wanna knows? I'm hearing that they're talking about Derek Lewis Alastair ovary next. Remember, also and went on the Mike afterwards and said, hey, I don't think this guy is funny. I'm not buying what he's selling. So that's in the works for twenty nineteen. I'm in put me down for by. All right. If you like this this magic right here. This thing that just went on on television is to we made it, buddy. If you like it, you could get it every week on ESPN plus area on the bad guy that called the show it's been going down since June. And we've been having a blast doing it from right here in Bristol, Connecticut. Sign up to ESPN, plus right now, check out all the old episodes that new episodes coming up this new one on Wednesday on the bad guy. He don't wanna miss it. All right. Plenty more awards the come chill. Thank you so much. Love you, buddy. Happy new year to you and your family all the best. It's been a pleasure working with you will see a after the break. Look at that. London England, happy new year everyone much more to come much love. Enjoying your New Year's Eve with all of us. What a great honor. This is again. Thank you to all of you for choosing to spend your New Year's. We're about to start a thirty year tradition. My friends we're going to look back on this episode as the start of something brand new. This is such a huge deal for me. Thank you so much. Okay. I said earlier in the evening that the walkout has become somewhat of a loss. Start at anime. I'm sure many of you would agree also a loss start and this dates back to like the old boxing days. The poster first time that ever doing this award because I feel like the poster needs to be recognized the posters big deal. When the you have C or Bela Tor one championship come out with new post. Everyone's talking about it scrutinizing breaking it down. And I want to single out one promotion in particular because I feel like they have just completely annihilated the competition when it comes to posters Invicta. See Invicta FC look at these posters right here. I have highlighted three Invicta thirty one Invicta thirty Invicta twenty six, but honestly, I could have picked every single card. They did in twenty eighteen they are creative. They are I catching they are fun. Of course, victim sif. You're unfamiliar with the promotion, offend tastic promotion, all female inmate promotion that. I mean, it's like the most consistent thing in MMA. They put on great cards. They also put on great posters. They produce a mazing posters and the brains behind these posters. My friends is a man by the name of boss logic at boss logic on Instagram and Twitter want to give them a shot up because he is phenomenal. What he doesn't even look at the color, the creatively designed this great stuff. This is what an EMMY posters should be all about don't make generic they'll make it run of the mill make it something that you. Wanna put on your wall back in the day? I used to collect boxing posters when I was a student at Syracuse university. I had in my apartment senior year was filled with just old bucks posters. Love the boxing poster, the old bucks. Poster. I love the story that poster could tell about a fight. I love the fact that victim see looked at the marketplace saw that other promotions weren't putting a lot of thought effort into posters, and they went out and hired one of the smartest men in MMA, the great boss logic. I don't even know this man's name. I don't even know where he lives. I talked him sometimes on social media. But I don't even know anything about it. All I know is that he produces this look at this twenty six thirty thirty one look at all in victims posters this year. Phenomenal. Congratulations Invicta posters of the year. Look at that stuff. Keep it up. I wanna see more promotions doing this in twenty nineteen. All right. Plenty more to come. We got a lot more wars with special guests standing by happy new year, those fireworks. I love New Year's it's. A happy time to reflect and look you all and I love the sport. I love him. May I look doing these wards more to come stick around? My New Year's resolution is to to continue a better person this continue working towards my dreams part work on. Twenty nineteen get back in my boys. Have a lot of governor teammates enough to. Contain of that commodity attending. Maybe the champions of the nineteen. Yes. The New Year's resolution who doesn't have one or two or three. They're always usually the same. They're always about getting better improving oneself improving one's lifestyle and MA. What about improving fighters? What about most improved fighters? You know, the great thing about this sport is that you can lose a fight you can lose two three points. And the fans have such short term memories. At forget all about it. And a look ahead to the next one. You get a big win known remembers the loss. And so let's talk about most approved fighters because this game changes. I mean, you saw some of them over there. They've had some lows than they have some highs this game changes so rapidly. Here's a look at my finalists for most improved fighter of twenty eighteen. All right. We just saw her Meena answer off what a year she has had in twenty eighteen look at that. Big win over cloudy billion not too long ago. She said I'm going to retire with my neck. Laws guess what she has lost since amazing year for her what a comeback year in a way and what an improvement in overall game. She's doing great, of course, partner. Mandating is the double champ is will Henry pseudo the messenger with the big win over the it's Johnson. You gotta give them a nod here. Because of course, he lost DJ you've seen ninety seven but his work with captain Eric Albers seen improving his striking over all the little cutout table, cheetah style the finishes. He has come a long way as game. And of course, now, he is the reigning defending you see flyway champion and finalist three Anthony Lionheart Smith. If I would've told you back in February that this man would be on the shortlist for most approved biters would have called crazy. Because of course, he lost to Seattle Santos. Guess what? Since then he dropped down or I should say drop up went two to five. And now he is on a roll he has won his last three in a row, he defeated Rashad Evans. In fact, he retired for shot Evans, and June came back in July with the win over shogun hooah and then. Had the big win over both can Ozdemir in Moncton New Brunswick. That is my most improved federal of the year that is Anthony Smith what a what a tale of two years. It has been for Anthony Smith, of course, training out of the factory extra. We spoke about his coach Mark Montag. And now he is kind of to be joining us on this New Year's Eve there. He is Mr. Anthony Smith himself. I'm gonna give you some some respect your take these glasses. Anthony, congratulations on winning the award. Congratulations on a great year. Thanks a lot. Really? Appreciate it's been a been a roller coaster, hasn't it? It has been really has. So if I told you back in February after that loss two Teo Santos that it would turn around the way it has one of the top contenders to five you're going back and forth with John Jones. Would you believe me? No, probably not, you know. I I just that's yoga Santa's losses a rough one man to the wakeup was terrible. And and I was just in a really dark spot and credit to Mark monthly and Jim Walter the they just kind of, you know, grab me by arms kick me up in and we just made a plan, and we stuck to it. And we moved up in feel great. And I really feel like things are clicking. I'm coming into my own now. And I feel like a lot of fans would consider you like a breakout fighter. But you've been in this game a long time to experience this kind of success. Now is nothing short of amazing. And I want to go back to that loss. Because I remember for the longest time you pin your tweet after that Chegos Santos laws. It was a dark moment for you. You were down depressed, but you left it up there as a reminder. Why did you do that for so long? It's actually still there. I haven't removed. It's still there. Wow. I just I wanna remember that feeling, you know, getting on the plane, and and having such a long trip back from Brazil, and and just feeling so terrible. And really just down and out. I I I just knew that I wasn't where I needed to be in like you said I've been in his game forever. I've been fighting professionally since await, and I just I wanna remember that. Because I don't ever wanna be there again, you know, this may this is the the highest level losses are going to happen. Especially the way that fight. I laid on the line. So they do happen. But I don't ever feel like I felt after that fight again. And I don't wanna forget that he mentioned huddling with your coach Mark Montag your manager and Walter one of the very best in the game both of them. And of course, moving up has been a theme right in this sport. Oh, you guys move up like Daniel Cormie hooved up it. Well, say north cut moved up that. Well, but it's not just about moving up to improve. Right. I mean, obviously, the extra twenty pounds helps. But what were you able to? Due to put it all together. Like this to have performed as you're not just squeaking by your finishing. You're finishing shogun. You're finishing Volkan. Could you tell us what you did to really improve your game and take it to this level. Definitely started with moving up and being able to really focus on getting better. And and bringing the best products table. I'm just other than the bulk and fight which was a tougher fight for me. I'm able to bring the product to the to the gone that I have one while I'm in the gym. And that's the big difference. I'm a mentally just turned on. I believe in myself. And I know that sounds super corny and super lame. But like, I I believe in myself, and I just feel in my heart that I'm going to be a world champion, and we're almost there. Okay. So speaking of believing let's spin this forward. I saw you going back and forth with John Jones on TV. I see him responding to you on Twitter. So clearly, you're on his mind. Do you believe you will fight John Jones next for the light heavyweight title? I do I do. I don't think that Daniels gonna come back down to five, and I don't it doesn't sound like John is going to go up. And I know the fans keep saying that they don't think that I deserve it. And the John will walk through me. And like we said before this isn't about how you feel doing the fight. It's have earned it in who else is there. I beat the number two guy in the world who just fought for the title. Gus in is now, you know coming off a loss. He just got beat by John. And and I and I think that I'm the man that do it. You know, it's real easy to pick to pick holes from tape in and say, you think you do this. And he would do that to me. But it's I think people are finding out pretty quickly. There's different when you're in front of me. And I'm the man to be John Jones. I really am. Would you think of his performance on Saturday night? I was surprised really surprised. He his body look different. He looked kind of soft. He didn't look as fast and snappy. Normally did in the biggest takeaway, I took his John John fights with a lot of arrogance, and that's one of his strongest attributes as mentality. He's he's mentally strong. You're gonna have a hard time break and that guy, and he's he's a phenomenal fighter. I'm not gonna sit here for ten to John's not great. But I seen a guy there that wasn't nearly as arrogant in in nearly as confident and itself as as he wants was I don't know if that's the layoff or all the stuff that went on leading up to this fight with all the controversy. But you know, I seen a different guy in that. Wow. That is interesting. Okay. Look the self confidence the belief that you have in terms of getting this fight back to the year that was show gun for shot full can which win. Did you like the best? Probably show gun. Probably shogun. I think showed him was. It was a bittersweet moment. I think getting a win over someone like show gun that I admired for so long. And it was just so such a scary, dude, you know, and. It was. That was the best one. But it was also probably the worst one afterwards sitting in the hotel. And and you know, you see the replays on Twitter and Instagram, and it was just so devastating. Almost like wasn't watching myself. Just watching someone walk through him like that was kind of tough to see. But it was the most satisfying for me for sure so byproduct of being a highly improved fighter and for being on the role that you are on. Now is you all of a sudden become a Mark, man? And this is somewhat of a new phenomenon in your career because I feel like for the longest time you were doing the hunting. And now people are hunting you on Saturday. We saw Corey Anderson call you out he now wants a piece of you as well. What did you make of that call out? And if you can't get John are you interested in fighting beast in twenty five eight. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it's funny. That Corey Anderson had an opportunity to fight me in the Lincoln card in and he turned it down. Because apparently, I wasn't good enough. Now, all of a sudden on the guy that he's chasing. So I do find that kind of funny and a part of me wants to tell them to kick rock just throw back at it. But you know, I see Luke rock Rocco. You know had a lot to say about me lately. So that's another option, but I definitely want to. I obviously I want to want the fight with John Jones player, you know, those are definitely to options point, nuke rock hold. I haven't haven't seen him talk about you. What does he said? How did you miss that? I don't know where have been working on this show. What happened? I don't know. He just came out with an interview said he's moving up to two oh five because of bums like me. Middleweight that are middleweight washouts that we're able to jump into the top ten sounds like sounds like Lucas is begging for chance to get another big fight because he's probably not getting one winning five hundred imagine. Wow. Now have you campaigned? Have you have you? I understand like I understand putting you on the spot and ask you about other people, but you want John Jones, and I get that. Have you campaigned behind the scenes has your manager? Jim reached out to the CFO. There any talks, what do you think and you're going? Oh, yes. Already been talking in trying to figure out. I think it really comes down to the time line more than anything in. And I told John today anywhere anytime any place. I've always said that wherever I just need a, you know, kind of like could be semi location, man. I'll be there whenever you want. Now in terms of your game. The theme is improvement. Ray? You're the most improved fighter for twenty eight teen. What would you like to improve on the most? Is there? One thing to things. I'm sure, you know, we're all our our worst self critics, right? We always want to get better. As there's something in your game that you really want to work on and get better for twenty nineteen. Yeah. There's a couple I think that everybody can be better conditions. You know, I think that some of my conditioning issues in the past I've less to do with my conditioning and more to do with my pacing. I think that one of those guys I just kinda put my foot on the gas and go sometimes and Mark monthly's trying to pull that out of me a lot. So just being a little bit more calculated in and finding someone like John you have to be extremely smart, and I've gotten away within the past just biting with my instincts and not really, you know, not really being to tactical. So I I need to be a little bit smarter. You know, I have the ability to I just don't always don't always do it. Do you Chuck that up to the performance against Bulkin? You said that that maybe wasn't one of your favorites. Did you feel like you ran out of gas and that fighting needs to work on that? Yeah. I mean a little bit. You know, I I think that that was my first I've only been in this five round club thing for very sort of, you know, brief amount of time so five around five ounces. It's different BC. How so I think that I was asked hired as most people would be at the end of third round fight like we had I just had another two rounds? And I think that had gone back to the corner after the third round. And I would have had those those that's sixty seconds to recover. I think I would have been fine. But. I just got a, you know, it's a different. It's a different ball game. When you have five rounds. And it's something that I've got used to Johnston fighting five rounds most of his career, and you know, I've only done it twice. So this is it's it's a learning. It's a learning curve for sure Anthony, I couldn't be happier for you. Congratulations on a phenomenal year. Congratulations on winning prestigious most improved there. I'm sure next year. You wanna win fighter of the year. As you hunt for that belt and hunt for John Jones. Thank you so much for joining us. Happy new year to you and your family, your truly one of the great guys in this sport. And again, I couldn't be happier for all your success that you've had this year. It's a lot airline. I hope to be talking to you soon about a fight announcement. Hopefully, and I hope we have a new year and and look forward to seeing your your own grow as well. Thank you so much there. He is Anthony Smith are two thousand eighteen most improved fighter of the year. What a year he had coming off the loss to Santos than defeats for. Shot Evans shogun who. And of course, volcanoes Demere he is gunning for John Jones. We'll see if he gets done. It's shallow division to five. It's not the craziest thought of all time. Okay. The new era is rapidly approaching. We are literally like over an hour away or something. It's unbelievable. M A on ESPN. Plus, we are becoming the worldwide leader in mixed martial arts at the stroke of midnight area on the bad guy ESPN, plus every Wednesday myself until Sunan pre and post fight shows before and following every UFC bent. There is so much more great programming to come on ESPN plus jump on the bandwagon. My friends it's going to be great after the break more awards. Plenty more to come more guests more surprises. You don't wanna go anywhere. Hope you're joying our new year show much love. We'll see after the break don't touch that. Dial. Happy new year. My friends for me our whole team here. Bristol, Connecticut for my family from the community to you much. Love look at the celebration. There's nothing light near the the promise the excitement of the year to come nothing greater how much fun is this. I hope I hope that they forget about our time. Limit we could go another six hours. I'm having a blast. It's our New Year's show right here on ESPN two. I hope you are enjoying it wherever you may be. Thank you so much for this opportunity to be in your home. And on your television said on New Year's Eve what a great honor. All right. Let's keep the train moving along. What a show it's been so far special. Guests have come more to come. And now let us talk about the breakout fighter of the year. In essence, this is someone who just sort of came out of nowhere and not only did they come out of nowhere. They burst onto the scene. Now, everyone's talking about them a year ago known was really talking about them or maybe some people whispering here and there, but these individuals are now the talk of the town. It was tough. I have a very long list, but I had the whittled down to three finalists and here they are the app for mentioned eliminator Lima lay McFarland. Bill Tor women's flyweight champion just running through the competition. Headlining in Hawaii doing the thing with the walkouts with the finishes. I mean, look at that look at those elbows violent finishes Aleem Alade breakout. Twitter what a year she had no longer the soccer mon- killer. Alex, the great Volkan off ski what a year he has had wins over the likes of Darren Elkins and this weekend. Chad Mendez, not just the win over Chad Mundus of finish over Chad. Mendez Alex, great is on a roll. And now he's calling max hallway wants a title next shots left. And right. And then how about this man man that outspoken off St. knows very, well friend and teammate the one and only Israel the last style bender outta Sonya. What a year for him for. No. And not only does he win. Not only does. He hardly get hit. He dances in there. He shrugged his shoulders. He puts his mustard on the hot dog. I mean, it's just unbelievable with this man has done. And then the end it was a no brainer. It was Israel at sign him our break out fighter of the year. What a year for the last style. And again, four no wins in February comes back in April comes back over the summer in July, tough finale, and then defeats their Brunson. And of course, up next is the great Anderson Silva, holy smokes. What a year for Israel to Sonya. Let's talk him Israel. Congratulations on a great year. Congratulations on winning the very prestigious breakout. Fighter of the year war. My man, how are you? Man. I'm great. I'll feel awesome yet. I spent the last night the last day of last year just kind of reflecting over everything to sit out on my couch, and my next than just kind of go into mall and head and and looking back at sometimes I'm just going forward. I forget the small so I kinda. Yeah. Smelt the roses a little bit last night than I think you made the right choice. Alex is a close second definitely give them because that lasts with Mendez who was money was Mun. But again, you know, I'm the one I got a done who are the reshape at thank you. Absolutely. And I think we'll be talking about you later in the program for fighter years. Well, but what the year you had a there's this year that hey could be this year's we'll we'll find out at the end of the show. But but, but honestly, if I would've told you December of two thousand seventeen the honest that you've had this kind of year that you'd be on the verge of fighting enersen silver that Ugo Forno and fight them as Jian headlining. Finale. Would you have believed me? Yep. But there was a few other. Variables. Always learn how to death it on the stop like a move to where I could move right past it. I can real whatever. So everything that the world is thrown at me. I've been able to look I'm grateful, honestly, I try to. It's just going into this new keeping view botchy ball. I can't wait till Melba, man. The ehlers. And I'm glad men's silver poking. Saying that now when the final the first two weeks, I like who I'm finding Silva. But now, it's normal. Okay. I feel like I have to harp on twenty team because so great. But you just said something that really stuck with me and a half to expand on it. You're better than Anderson Silva, you feel like right now even with the fight a month and a half away. You are better than arguably the greatest middleweight champion of all time. On percent. Like, you have to be able to just be costal with who you are. And have you seen that new black mayor movie, I have not and Netflix? It's kinda like goosebumps book where you get to pick. And choose what happens nets and plants the whole theory of like simulation. Whatever last is show. I said like a vessel like. Playing. I don't know for what this, and I people say God people say hi Powell, but literally the wealth plan this game right now, I'm playing with Chico. It's not fair. It's not fair. He's the old avatar on the take over. Wow. Let me ask you about this past year the four victories. Is there one that stood out? Is there one that means a little more to than the rest? Me. I don't know about means a little more. I don't know about means a little more. But the most fun I had was brought to Vars the headlining and just fighting. Brad. You have a good plumber who can play Bracken the play rod came to play. And we had one in there. So five rounds light work. I was nothing to me and people like, oh, he's ready for this. This is this is five rounds. Can you handle it? So for me was nice kind of everyone notice show everyone, and I'm gonna keep doing that. 'cause everyone's gonna keep any then all biggest critic on my biggest fan. So I stay on. I stay woke. Okay. So you're obviously very confident I feel like this after every win this year. How do you remain confident but also grounded not buying your own hype? Not feeling yourself. Little too much your super-popular back home here about the fight very close to home in Melbourne here about the fed Anderson Silva that feels like the people's main event for you see two thirty four how are you balancing the two confidence. But also humility. Experience experience looking telling you like a lot of these athletes all like, not not an MA in mainstream sports like basketball baseball. They projected fake humility fake humble. You guys know what I'm talking about you guys. No one talking about the kind of people who aren't jet right on the PR. They all. This is where I get home. This is what I get home. When Steve won't be punches me in the pay. This get humble went down on my back with four minutes. This is why get humble other than the being home for anyone else. I'll show. You will deal with the you ain't got to like it. But you respect it you'll accept it. So I'm not trying to be anyone's he wro- anyone's guru anyone's role model. I'm just doing me and digitally. I got home every day. Remember that Sinn boxing and Bill. I just balanced through the people. I have around me through my experience my experience. I've ended up getting guy said I've blew up this year while being blowing up like ISIS, I've been blowing up a long-term letting me but up in another level and this fight it's going to be bigger than all. So already for I stay woke told you woke the I stay open. I appreciate that in for those that don't know Israel is in New Zealand right now. So it's actually new years already their New Year's day. He is sullaway ended a gay. Yes. At the gym Israel wins. The first time you watch Anderson Silva fight you, remember? I watched it on DVD. I can't remember for the name aqua DVD. Listen seven or eight that I'll remember, but one of those ones I was to live on pay TV was yet belong USC Ninety-one shake. And then after that, I watched them maybe you have seen ninety eight later p one with spread fan and the list goes on. So I've just been watching it for years. But I told you show I'm gonna be I'm gonna end up to insult over less scratch that leave that last year, I'm going to Israel, dishonest, silver, guaranteed. How're you going to do it? Can we get a finished? We get your good finishes. Good at picking them Brown method. We get one for Anderson. Leave it leave it open free. Stop because he's a guy you have to like, I said underestimate anyone and then tell you overestimate, he's just another block of loves on leans cries. When I punch them you feel it. And he punches me lint, so clean is different. This is he fights people stand by people who come to get his gingy too low. Different story. I can I can trap it. Good. We'll get fucking the headlights and he's fighting on days never moon from those never ever worked for so. Yeah. It's a different story men. I'll let my team passenger what up Celia CeCe happy new year. Well, I appreciate that Israel. Congratulations. By man, what a year was for you from the kick boxing ring to the octagon threes on the area. Oh, no. I'm not, but I have to go. It's time to go. My friend much love. Congratulations on your looking forward to fight against of. There is Israel out of Sonya while what character, but great character in the sports. So yes, four no in twenty eight teen. He returns to action on February ninth UFC, two thirty four the very first paper view of the ESPN era there. It is Robert Whitaker versus Kelvin gas in the winner of the Sonya Anderson Silva fight will most likely fight for the belt. So they will fight the winner of Whitaker versus gasoline because it's all in the middleweight division. There's the lineup right over there. A beautiful slate of fights coming your way on February ninth here in the states for tenth Australia, you f c to thirty four. Okay. So we go from improve fighter of the year. Most improved then break out of the year. Now, we go to comeback fighter of the year. And this is always a very fun one because the comeback fighter is someone who may be had a rough previous years in this case two thousand seventeen or has overcome something. You know, negative and turned it into a positive in this particular case, it's a very interesting one. It's not what you think. Let me explain further as a introduced the finalists. Here we go most or I should say comeback fighter. Most comeback. Come back. Most most comeback to get them saying comeback fighter of the year. Daniel cornea, yet Daniel cormier everyone's talking about him as a finalist for fighter of the year to how about the fact that he ended twenty seventeen on a loss getting knocked out by John Jones returns with low confidence against Belkin Ozdemir wins the Bill back, then becomes the double chat. And then of course, headlines against Derrick Lewis and wins that put in mystery. So that's one number two max hallway. Yes, max hallway I had Matt's hallway at the end of last year as my twenty eighteen fighter the year. That's why predicted it didn't work out for the majority of the year for him. But he said constantly. It's not how you start the race. It's how you finish it. That's what he said. And look how. He finished it against Bryner. Take the Rondo winning that fight retaining his title. What a year for max hallway after some trials and tribulations, of course, Europe Rigas who did not see for quite some time over year loss. The Frankie Edgar we thought. He would never return the same. He returns in November on short notice. And defeats the Koreans AVI with the latest knockout finishing UC history with arguably the greatest of all time and most importantly our knock out of the year. Yes. L patera hardly stand afterwards. But in the end it goes to max Holloway. And I know you're thinking what max Holloway? How could that be? How could that be sick about where max hallway was in March when he was supposed to fight against Frankie? Edgar think about where he wasn't April when he was supposed to made up big about where he wasn't July when he was supposed to fight Bryner tak- he overcame all of that all those obstacles. And did what he did against Bryner tak-. That's my comeback fighter. The year. It is an honor to be joined by the reigning defending. You have see feather way. Championed the one and only mex- plus hallway max my man back in the pump and room. How are you can ground? Good. How you guys thank you is not to be managed in route wide. Like, I said, but exactly what you said when he opened the show and you start the race. It's how you finish. And I think we've finished wrong with that that last bite unbelie, and I know most fans will say what comeback your how could this be? But you have overcome so much my friend from the Edgar injury to then what happened in April not making it to the fine. Of course, what happened in July to me. No one exemplifies what it means to be a comeback. Fight of the how do you receive this order still the champ didn't lose in the previous year? How do you feel about this award being given to you? You know, I'm the comeback kid period. You know, I'm underdog king. I don't know what it is. And I've been do been sleeping on me. So it's great. You know, it is what it is. I'm just glad to be a part of the show. I get to get a Hopi sending that trophies out to us put it up somewhere in the. Like, if you eight days washes chauffeur's, I'll put one back this view. As a as a you van you ought to met. You wasn't even smiling. The last one what is going on aerial? You gotta start this new end his new year. Good. I'm glad we putting smiles on your face, man. I appreciate that. It's it's amazing because you have also talked, and I think you have helped a lot of people max leading up to the Ortega fight. You talked about battling depression, you talked about overcoming that the dark moments just being open about that means a lot to a lot of people. Was there any point this year? Max where you thought you wouldn't fight again in twenty eight teen that this year was a wash and that maybe you wouldn't be able to fight a one forty five. They take your title way, were those kinds of thoughts were going through your mind one point. Oh, yeah. For sure I especially after last July one, you know, I was like man, am I even going to make that walk ever again? And I gonna get stripped the bunch of things going through my mind, and you know, depression is crazy like I said, you know, but we can overcome together, you know, tasting the man in the with the way he talks about depression. How how he battled and he came. Back and just like him. You know, I'm doing it for us. You know, if you got if you got it makes you get yourself out of out of it made bless yourself move on and look for help. We're team, you know, you were stronger numbers and come on and talk about, you know, don't be afraid, you know, a lot of people scared to talk about mental health and this and that, but we live in aero where a lot of people like go on this thing called social media and act like a tough guy. So it's a it's crazy. It's super crazy. And all you gotta we gotta be able to stay strong. Let the posit go on and gonna come together if you fighting something reach out to someone and you're not alone. Guys. You guys not alone. You know, I I was definitely like you said man, I thought fighting was was done. You know, I don't know what it was. But you know, thankfully, I had many blessed around. He he was a big help. I had my family my mom's around a lot. And just my team. You know, my team is strong. He got you guys. I got the fans. It was crazy. All crazy. This year is insane. And I got to go out there Cup. Two weeks ago? Choi Leyla self and have fun against I'm excited. Yes. In the tenth island of Toronto, Ontario Canada. So you've Enquist Bryner tak- afterwards. Dana away continued to say he wants to see you fight at one fifty five. I heard a rumor max that they were thinking about you versus Tony Ferguson at one point that that was being discussed that true. And I mean, the next one fifty five I heard that rumor to, you know, I don't know who I don't know. Who's starting rumors got arrow you starting rumored hunks, but I don't get it. I heard that rumor to I I was getting texted. I got today. Actually, someone thing say now, it's funny like, congratulations. I hear nothing. But I don't know we have like I said, I'm I'm a king once kingly throwing people invade invade the village, and I don't want my village to invade. You know, if it's if it's forty five forty five, you know, there's a lot of interesting match for me fifty five, you know, got the top two guys. They're trying to figure it out. And we see I'm enjoying the holidays. Happy new year. Here is not even new years yet. So I'm a kickback relax, and we give me a call. I have to ask because it just happened outspoken. Upscale Saturdays said that he is your worst nightmare. Did you see his fight in? What you make of what he said about you. On you know, I I didn't see it. You know? I I don't know who guy is actually, you know. But I didn't see no fight. I didn't watch it. I know those on the opening the main card on I was on the evil to see the champ do work. What an amazing thing. Amanda Nunes did and in but we should happen. I thought they sound fight wrestlers. I swear for Ricardo. You know, they say they said stuff was my worst nightmare Aldo. Then they said there's a new nightmare in Bryner tak- everybody being nightmares. Their worst. Nightmares mice be my dreams because I don't know people been saying vein wrong. And all they like the name is is going to Disneyland for me. So it's great if they want to he's a new cupcake, you know, I don't know where he's from. We bought the figure out what the find out the flavor and find out if I like it do you still feel comfortable putting on forty five if they say to your next one forty five you feel comfortable with that a one hundred percent and all. He's on the last way. I was I was great. I was really wanna greatest week cuts ever. I wanna great fight weeks ever, actually, period. And I felt great. You know, I feel great. You guys have to see what I what I could do. I came out there post a bunch of records beat a bunch of records. I'm excited, you know, if it's forty five forty five fifty five fifty five, you know, I heard these looking for some money fight. He know who the money guy is that Noma fan. Let me know. Yes. DC will bring his tennis shoes his high saw. It's never say that the edit that is on life. You don't ever say tennis shoes come on? I know that bothers you. I know that bothers you speaking of which be honest max, you said all the right things leading up. But what was it like when you saw a Lima lay fight in front of that crowd? I knew you were jealous of her because I know that meant the law you didn't want people. But did you think like men I want that to want that experience? Yeah. You know, there's I the way I thought of it is time for everyone. You know, my times will come is Leila's time, you can't take that time away. She deserved everything. She got she walked out. You know, we actually one of my brothers wasn't guys carrying the flags and stuff. Wow. That was built. Yeah. Those and it was crate man, you had to beat crazy. And I'm getting goosebumps talking about it right now is amazing thing. And I can't wait. You know, it was her time. They bring it here. We should happens. You know, I think comes down it. There's times there's times to this you, and I think so we might come down next year. You know, hopefully, hopefully get here we get to stay. Hopefully, I can get my walk. Oh like that. It was a is just amazing, man. It was amazing. I couldn't if you I we can the knees what I can say I feel like when I when I did my first fight in the UC. And I explained to you guys how when before was saying my name feeling weak in the knees, myself, don't fall maximum fall. You know, and I saw it was when Lima dinner walk as amazing is Julia. Is truly amazing. You know? I bless you know, hopefully, they can bring it back. Hopefully, we can funny get UC down. And they look you'll see did it. We did it. Let's goal. You know, the the the Hawaii tourism authority was saying that I didn't want to bring down the wrong crowd or whatever. So we've just prove them, you know, that is the best crowd. You know? So let's that's goal. You know, that's Dana. Let's go you see. That's let's go aerial come down. And we can have our virgin pinochle out on the beach. It's a deal. My man for now, though, congratulations brother very easy week year for you. What a year it has been two thousand eighteen unbelievable stuff. What you have overcome. What you have done to get to this point. Just this year loan is is nothing short of inspiring. So congratulations Hume hallway. Enjoy your New Year's. Thank you so much for joining us. They can't thank you enough. Thank you, man, man. Not love for you. You always have my support true that years and stuff man arrow behind the scenes, man. He's he's checking up on you. If you've on the blessed express get on the express because he's a real deal. Thank you much love for my. Yes, there he is the one and only Mets plus Holloway. The you have C for the way champion. What are you here for him? All right. Big one coming up next. My friends don't go anywhere female fighter of the year. You don't wanna miss it? It's going to be a good one happy new year wherever you may be. We're having a bless stick around. Welcome back to the two thousand eighteen wanna knows awards right here on ESPN, two two hours in the books. Now, my friends it is time to give out the award to female fighter of the year. Oh, my this one was so interesting because it actually came down to the last weekend of the year. Yes, you see to thirty two it just happened in Inglewood, California. And it actually came down to one point the winner. This fight was probably going to be the female player of the year in the end. It was the lioness herself Amanda Nunez who finished Chris cyborg who knocked out. Chris I for the first time in sideways career two thousand and five with cyborgs last loss. Wow. She did it in less than a minute. And now, she's the double champ to titles. She's the women's featherweight and bantamweight champion. Amanda. Congratulations bands. Not only did you win on Saturday. Now, you win the Hawaii knows female winter the year Ord. Yes. Thank you guys. Appreciate. Okay. So this is what I wanna know. What have you been doing for the last forty eight hours? How you been celebrating this incredible feat? Doing a lot of being all over. I mean, he vagus now voice like walking the street. Do a. Do a lot of like Danish. We my friends in drink everytime. We stopped me. Get a being green. Valley, and you certainly deserve it. It's been incredible ride for you to do this. Chris I Borg after what you did to Ronda Rousey after what you did to me. She Tate just nothing short of amazing. I'm wondering how many times in the last two days? Have you watched that fight it only takes fifty seconds? How many times have you actually watched? It a lot. Whatever I go sometimes. With my frame today. Again, a little bit saw show what Dan thing. But it's pretty speak. Good. You know? I have to watch over him over two days. I better laugh enough fight in a Heff watch these in November. In. Like make me feel good watch every time. You don't. Yes. Not only. No, go ahead. I went through a lot. I went to allow us fight in glide that like what what do you mean? When you when you say that you went through a law. Move up like the east like is hardy in you have to do everything again like learning how to how training we heavy. No, he's very hard in trade with b d guys like train like bog ahead to really step in in the gym cage. And throw bummed is guys throw bummed. He's men in. I tried surviving. In especially mentally disliked. Was so big that it has to do like Willie like a strong heavy strong moment with myself every every single day in for that for our reason was voting hard for me fight. Okay. So considering that you even want to stay at one forty five or is too hard to stay at featherweight. I don't know. I didn't even win a home yet. Have true celebration these Royal with my my train on the gene being about home for everybody. I still like. Heads people back home to decide you my next step. Saudi happened way class. A few voted good. If a few fast powerful. In. We'll see I'm going to side. So Amanda, I remember the first time I saw you fight. It was against Julia Budd around nine years ago, you beat her and fourteen seconds. And you ran around like you did on Saturday night after that victory. You were so happy and everyone thought maybe this could be the one who could be Chris cyborg? It took you almost a decade to get there. But you did it if I would've told the Amanda Nunez back then that you would turn into the greatest fighter of all time double champion making history. Almost every time you fight. Would you believe me, or is this all a big dream for you? After the fight. They talked to me about cyborg right off, the this July. In way, something that I stopped by coats the in. Literally UFC by force in in everything was. Was only talked in in. I say after the fight my coach tell me like, let's let's draw over thirty five because having more gales in. We can make more noise in thirty five. In in. When I had my fight for the first I thirty five that I drop away rowdy hardy, by the way in. I lose the fight. In in Dow, always eight something to think about if I wanna stay in one thirty five and or go to flee five, but that's in the league. That was a dream for me. Maybe maybe when they fights bogged maybe on them they want to beat her. But I don't think this is the right moment. Eat right. Always still have to evolve a lot as a fighter in if he's gonna happen. I'm going to be ready for but that would back. There was a dream. Which moment felt better knocking out Ronda Rousey or knocking Chris work. Knockout cyborg for sure? Because seized. He's that the best hedge of user, you know in in. She don't lose full like Sologub end. Everybody cares. Bog and all those things in in Tanaka. How in in Provo like I scare I'm not scared of her at all the whole. If I look ahead is nice scare you in. When I was be able to like get her face. In bitter, log how like cold. Always the best feeling ever on his. She has handled the loss. I think very well. She has handled it with class and has been complimentary of you. But she also said she wants an immediate rematch. Do you think she deserves one? She's she's the grades Vija voice. They graze hard to. And let's see what do you see want? Is not me. Whatever west you going to let me know, what do they want to do? A can't really say anything if you say, yes. Dated on one fight them going to happen. You know, by the way, speaking of the brass when you jumped over the cage, I saw you talking to Dana way. What did you say to him? Gums LeBron with me. Because like him. I would make you happy. Then make happen. I promise I will chip. N Regan celebrate together. In was I jump at told you I told you. And I saw that amazing photo that you posted afterwards where you have the two belts in bed with you. And I know this year has been very special not only because your compliments also winning back home in Brazil in may. But because of your partner Nina answer off as well, we mentioned earlier in the show one of the finalists for most improved fighter of the year for both of you now to have this year where you're both. Streaking you're making history. She's now title contender this. I would imagine make it all that much more special right for show, and very helpful Yuna. I always I always knew she she can get that, you know, she can be the champion. I always knew ending she proved now she's she's the next day ending. I should be. I think she's of decided shot on because he had I see Nina and five I think she she just eat Jason teas. And I'm pretty sure she she supposed to be the next that I had already and she can fight. Forgot had made. I forgot it named the say. She's contained his route Tatyana touch outta Suarez. Taty honest wadis in Nina put about I think, I think unite you rose is going to be fun. You know, I know she's going to both is going to go. Strike the whole. I mean, it's going to be fun. I know the fight us ended. But when would you like to return to action do even know yet give time though now I'm going to take like a good break for sure Brazil? I have a lot of these numbers. You have to go that and see my family in stay little be that have my these numbers you have to care in in in Sierra happy, and he'd sometime I went through a lot. But just like on in in a need some rice a good arrest? I got I got seeked up with. Escape has to stop like almost like my whole camper hefty like fake break. My life spy got hurt in. I have to stop once again. But everything will out. You know, I'm glad like I was be able to to be fast in beverage. Gotta do walk done. But ways was a mental that for me was a mental fight between me myself. You know in the heck's two lights. Abrasion still it'd be with my in in good time, Brazil, I just wanna make sure I heard you correctly. You said in your last sparring session. You got hurt yet? What happened did you bag? You know, like when you say the cage, you you get like switch Sidey sometimes they'll be able to control yourself you low. You'll go against those guys to like. They that. I know they they always that you help me everything, but sometimes like winning in that kind of situation you throw bum in. They throw bubbles each other in days happening. This spy. Always Moi's station at all. But I got very hard hurt in to have to take a week off won't do anything. It was really. Hurt an even be able to step into flaw things like that. I was about that the whole weekend. Like, I can't turn despite down a half to go a have to move forward in these in. I think like the way that I think would. I mean, my mice set would just fight. I'm going to go stepping whatever you you're going to the keys you inside bone won't care. What happened? What did you hurt? What was injury was my leg. Wow. And I always be the next day on those putting my my my flow at all were you close to pulling out. Not actually, no. No. I went back. The do. I did like only up about things. The whole almost my whole last week. I only did up body team in was able to at least get a cardio without a body in. That's it. But was was little tough for me. Imagining be ready for bogging no train the life. I can't imagine away their way you wanna train like stepping, Katie. Like, you know. You're gonna you're gonna be a paddle Indy. You know, be able to really like be one hundred percents that it'll be hard enough. And so last thing, how's the leg? Now. Do you know how is it still hurting or are you gonna have to surgery? What can you tell us about the leg? Actually, the right now, he's pretty good. When I got there. I was right away. Tracks fight head the head of helping please head to put her hands in in make me like really few bad, but a win when she was I do the tree mate. I still feeling pretty baggage. You know, be able to really like go deeping and things like that. But he really was able to make me feel much better. You know, and a heavy Bagley back home and having my up by massage therapies to t- like every single day of the house make show my legs. I have to go training at least to do something. Jane, drink a lot of meds scene. Too late at least get it. Something bad that. But Michael Jackson coach like you. He was able to adopt a lot of training for me ever. Actually, by the way to say. Thank you very much to be there for me in everytime. We get. Voice training. I feeling my leg have to stop Dingle home in that team. Like it came to anything today. My legs hurt pretty bad any pretty more moments for me. I look in like baby. I think today like that's easy in but we're going to go. We're going to do these in. We're to do gonna turn despite thou because Sibol out Addy like duck show so much crackle me about my same as I days. I that in. And always be able to to let it go. You know, would it be too much for me to handle each Pulau that fight? I told you I'm gonna pull gonna fight in my injury. You're gonna. In in. I told you like keeping me like at least to like try defendant. If she she tried to kick me my legs in the in there. Were training. The fame defend the fan. Always my throat leg measurement. Was my front left. In. That way. That was pretty thoughtfully. In going to go back home. Tickets more my leg. Do I feel that much? I know they had a really like helped me he's weakened. In. I drink a lot of made seen from Dari things in the ass. You better. But a it tough Wiki. Well, I I was impressed with your victory on Saturday idea about any of that now even more press with what you accomplish well to do that to knock out Kris cyborg with with that kind of injury. That's that's just mind blowing so congratulations. I hope you feel better. Amanda, congratulations. Not only on what you did on Saturday. But you're incredible career you one fighter the year just a couple of years ago as well after that amazing year in two thousand sixteen and congratulations as well to your partner, Nina who had a phenomenal year as well to to both of you happy new year there. She is. Well, thank you so much to both of you for coming on. I really appreciate it and happy new year. Dake? You are we appreciate anytime. All right there. She is Amanda, news female fighter of the year. And there you saw Nina answer off with a nice little cameos will one of our most improved fighters of the years. Well, this is the most prestigious award not just in sports, but just in in the world, look at it. That thing anyhow, let us move along. We've had some other great female performances this year. I think one just wrapped up moments ago, you want to know how how you know that we're live this just happened moments ago Kayla. Harrison, the two time Olympic gold medalist EFL numero eleven their finale where they handed out a bunch of million dollar checks. She was in a featured belt three you this year. And she finishes her opponent. What's get? She is just so dominant look at that dominance pure dominance from me former teammate. Of one Ronda Rousey name that we will be talking about for many many more years to come. And by the way, teammate of one Amanda, noon as American top team's doing some great things with women's have made early this month. We talked about her all show long Lima lay McFarland with a great year as well. Another finalists in my opinion for female fighter of the year. Phenomenal performance again against the Canadian. Valerie, little no in her home state of what he what a moment that was earlier this month and less we forget, the bullet Valentina Shevchenko, you know, I knew of a scenario in which cyborg winds, maybe a whole home fight. I felt like Valentina Shevchenko could win female fighter veer in the end units made history so didn't have to but what are your shift chanko moving down to one twenty five. And she has that great victory that dominant victory gets Priscilla customer. Then she's chasing Nico Montagna all over the place. She's trying to get that fight. There were supposed to fight in September, douse. It doesn't happen. She shows up. So in a way that's victory. And then, of course, she fights. You want engine check in Toronto. She becomes the flyway champion. She wins, the vacant flyweight title, and she had some tough fights against the man. The new two of them. I wouldn't mind seeing trilogy between those two maybe down the line. Maybe three builds. All right. Here's PM plus soon to be the exclusive home of all things, you have see this is what it looks like my friends, I've been on ESPN plus since June, and I gotta tell you. I can't get enough because not only are you about to get all things. UFC on there. But you get other things like that more than an athlete show the Brown James in his I can't get enough of it in the crease NHL show love it. ESPN f c watch it every night. I've tell you. I'm not just saying if no one's called me to say this you need to sign up for ESPN plus right now 'cause great Pfizer coming up next year on the pin. Pin? I would really love to see against tomorrow's. Cohere judge especially after this. Those are some great fights. I'm gonna tell you about the play. I must see twenty nineteen after the break. Don't go anywhere. We are down to the new era. We are county out to the new year two thousand nineteen bay. As p. Let's pay tribute to two thousand eighteen and of from. Daniel corn me made his keys the bull. Chan be never got the euro -cation, but he served Neiman. His than would a. In cage fighting so many moments will ways for member. But now it's time to. Page here comes and may on the worldwide leader. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the program. What a great night. It has been New Year's is just like thirty minutes away. We're doing so many exciting things on the show. We have given out awards. We got special guests, it's the prestigious hell Wani knows awards. One of the great stories of twenty eight teen. My friends has been the rise of PF L there Naga real season. And they just wrapped it up and one of the faces of PF L has been Ray Cooper. We've been talking about Hawaiian fighters. Aleem? Elaine, McFarland doing big things max Holloway doing big things. Well, this was just moments ago at the Madison Square Garden theatre Ray Cooper, the third in the welterweight finale fighting for a million bucks. And look what happened here. Holy smokes. I'm actually watching this for the first time. Muggle med carry mov with the guillotine choke. What with the upset? I didn't even know that happened. I just witnessed this for the first time. Whoa. That is a big big shocker muggle men Magomed carry moths with the submission win other winters. Lance Palmer, Nathan Scholz, Sean O'Connell, Philippe, Lynn's all million dollar winners. Great night great year for PF. Oh, we branding from WF. Now, they are the professional league. And they just wrapped it up New Year's Eve in New York City a great year for them. And wow recoup. The third loses who we I didn't expect that Kayla. Harrison. Of course, we showed you highlight earlier this evening. So like, I said the new era is rapidly approaching. We are less than thirty minutes away from ESPN becoming the exclusive home of the alternate fighting championship here. Here's a quick preview of our debut card. January nineteenth. Champion champion. The king of the points. You might be looking at the one hundred thirty five pound fighter. Cdo give you wanna fight me. I'm coming. Title. Champion versus champion the. I'm coming. You. That's right. Live on ESPN, plus January nineteenth. It's champions champ. It's TJ Bill Shaw. Moving down from one thirty five to challenge. The reigning defending flyweight champion, Henry pseudo. Henry pseudo joins us right now, the recipient of the upset of the year. Ward a finalist for most improved could be a finalist for fighter of the year. The great Henry the messengers hudo on tap. He, of course, beats TJ those other other big names on that card as well. Donald Caroni versus outs Hernandez. We've got paid fans zen against Rachel awesome. Where's Henry there? He is. Wow. Look at that thing. Holy smokes. What does that snakeskin? Make everything is the year to skin the snake. I like it. I like it you like I love. Wow. That's is that real. That's real my. Not route January nineteenth. That's. Yes. And I think you may have and by the way, what a great nod that is, of course, TJ dillashaw nickname a lot of people calling him to stay. But but but congratulations on the upset of the year. You're mad at me for coach of the year. Right. Every little. We did enough captain, Eric. He's a team sport of coach. And you know, what let me ask you a question. What's hard to beat a chance to be the youngest history to the Olympics? And to beat the greatest of all time become Olympic you. Tell you. Favorite asked that. Okay. I will. Oh, hell sort of marinate on that one. I'm sorry for you. A little okay. You're going to get it. Hey, listen, keep that bitterness. And let's channel it into January nineteenth. Let's say Hello now to the man that you'll be facing on January nineteenth raining defending. You have see bantamweight champion T J dillashaw stopping by look at that TJ. How are you? Doing great. My man. How are you? Well, this is a lot of fun. We've got TJ on my left. We got Henry on my right? I don't know if you can see Henry TJ, but he's wearing a snakeskin jacket. Did you see that jacket? If so what do you make of it? I did the last guy I tried to wear snakeskin suit. Suit. So it's his turn next home on. Okay. Oh, wow. Easy t- too happy new year to you too. This is great. I love that. We could bring you guys together on New Year's Eve. I really appreciate both of you. Joining us Henry TJ the last time I spoke to him said that he has been called upon to come down to one twenty five and shut down the flyweight division. What is your response yet? Yeah. This same guy was trying to start getting paid more. I was saddened with the with the if you wanna call it the batter side. But that's his his plans are gonna come to one. And I love spoil slam. January nineteen TK you're gonna have your tell to the leggings. Do you know how to kill a snake? You're you're I don't you creek you gratified. You whip it on his head and that's fan who's happy. January nine is thinking to give the steak once and for all. He's never killed no snake. He's scared. Scared. Oh, yeah. Very very. Yeah. How how's that? Wait could coming. Yes. I wanted to ask you about. How is it? It's actually schedule quite enjoyable on lean and mean and feel great man, the lightest strongest ever been exciting stuff. It's exciting to cho- to sessional get in there and stream. Nice. I can't help. But notice you're right. I teach what happened there. Onto escape from zoo and punching right? You you went to you went to the messenger. You five you can have two black eyes. I don't think you've ever seen. Anybody black guy? Let me show you by going. You have that. You would never beat the. You don't have that. You have these nets. You have you go the golden ROY jacking? Exactly. Nineteen. Already. Close. Okay. January. You know, what's coming? I'm gonna make the flight with division. Great again. And you're gonna be by except thank you very much. Okay. Feel hurting. Go ahead. Teach. It are you done. All right. Oh, I'm gonna get in on the nineteenth destroy this door. You look around himself on itself in the third person carrying his belt everywhere seen a picture of him. Got his belt calling. You like take take take. Take on the mass. Let the lacy being the best ever. You're just happy about. And that's the and that, and that's exactly who I have you know, and. I am the truth. This okay. Another Ponant just another random opponent. And I'm gonna show you you're cleaning is going to get the hell, orange frown. I'm the Reno. This guy meant he's you know, I don't even have a belt in my house right now because I don't I don't use show it off. I let my friend seventy year old show varroa first birthday because he's my biggest fan son about the. What you'll never. You're not used never beat somebody like he'd never ever. Filming champion. Carping never going to be a champion. Mansard. Shining resume that belt for new job. Fair. Recipe. Year to skin the snake starts now. I'm excited to use the Borys fighter the roster. Once you does your boring and people. You going to be out you try to not kaN all that ankle sleep. During your fights. People are gonna be glued to the TV to watch. The puts you to sleep in in. I'm going to show you really wrestling's bound Beatriz your own game. All I see that's all buy ins. But dude, if you think I'll give you the if we didn't take me down. I can tell I'll tell you. You wanna fight? That's com. Win beat is only that go mentally five. As he. A teacher can't be J P J dillashaw gang bang team. This is coming for this might be my favorite interview of all time because I haven't had to say a word. This is amazing kudos the both of you. I just want. I just want to reiterate what Henry just said if TJ dillashaw takes him down. Once he is going to call off the fight. He's going to wave it off. Is that accurate? Henry why not why not? I am the meets Johnson. Like, everybody got smelly gave a hundred percent little shot. That's high school junior high bullcrap, and I know you're not going there. But I dare you to identity. TJ? How do you beat him on January nineteen? What's your prediction? How did you get it done? That's the greatest thing is. I'm a true may find I'll everywhere this guy is one thing at a time not worried about the most boring. Lease like, he's got nothing nothing to threaten me with. That's his. That's your area of the area. That's his best comeback that is for side. Wait more than with you. Every. You lost dominate you also that but January nineteen listening that nature ten pounds. Fly. Will you find a true athlete and giving get Henry, what's your prediction? Condition. Learn how are we gonna win this fight? It's talking to here. Just how I l spotted if you should Johnson I'm gonna outsmart teaches you didn't win. Were the less. They. We have a particular. We have some little bit of rat. DJ dairy nineteen is going to happen aerial not blink be quick. Shotty one one thing he thinks he's a big shot. All sudden, that'd be quit. It'd be good guys. I wish I could do this for another hour. And fortunately, we were at a time. This is television after all we have run out of time. But wow, amazing stuff. I can't thank you both enough. I cannot wait. If you were not looking forward to January nineteenth at Brooklyn. I think you're looking forward to it. Now. Thank you very much TJ dillashaw. Thank you very much. Henry who January nineteenth Brooklyn New York? Barclays center, the very first UFC on ESPN plus card there you see the lineup. Six to eight on ESPN plus sign up right now. Eight ten on ESPN history will be made. And then at ten PM. It's Henry of hoodoo versus T J dillashaw on ESPN, plus an additional that pre and post show on ESPN. Plus can't wait. Holy moly. I didn't expect that at both them. But not that kind of bad. But wow. All right. That's January nineteenth but still to come one of the most prestigious awards that we're going to give out tonight. The male fighter of the year. Is that these see the double channel is it? Habib his team or is it the breakout fighter the year Israel to send you a we shall reveal that answer still to come. Don't go anywhere. Eighteen arguably, the most prestigious award in the sport, Dino, Cormie, what are your was the double champ comes back against volcanoes? Mir comes back and makes history against meal, and then he makes history by being the first bent to defend two titles in the same year, two different titles in two different ways classes against their clueless. MSG look at that smile, so happy Daniel Cormie was back in New York City to built and in our hearts, you can say he is still the double champ anyhow more on that later made up another finalist for fighter of the year. What a win over ally Quinta the Brooklyn gangster, and then he comes back in October. And he successfully defenses lightweight title against one Conor McGregor. UFC two twenty nine the eagle has landed. He is the champ at one hundred and fifty five pounds can't wait to see him back in there. And of course, still undefeated and then. We have the last style bender Israel out of Sonya foreign oh in twenty eighteen headlining against Brad Varas what a win at MSG against Derek Brunson. We what a year for Israel Sonya? What? The winner is that man the captain at the American kickboxing academy. The men who retained the light heavyweight title in January who won the heavyweight title in July. And then successfully defended that built in November the one and only DC Daniel is our male fighter of the year. My man these see we have been doing shows for a long time. Many interviews we've never done it on TV before. Congratulations. What's so funny? It's the Hawaii knows the war. My man you did it. Crazy. I mean from the apple store, e as B M, the worldwide leader, I cannot believe this. Food food degrade arterial hall used to say, yes. Oh, we did. It dreams. Come true. What? Thank you, my friend. What are your for you? Unbelievable. Your the fighter of the year to do that at thirty nine. I still can't get the image at my head in Anaheim, you crying on national television to rebound from that. And to not only just like winsome fights. But to make history and win the heavyweight title. Sisley defended come on. You couldn't have predicted this, right? I couldn't I'm really trying to like, oh there it is. I was looking at myself trying to get the camera. Right. You know, I wasn't doing too. But no, I couldn't have thought that this year would be what it was especially after last year, you know, that my lowest point ever when I lost a Jones in Anaheim, especially getting finished. I've never been finished had never truly been heard that point two five and four to let my emotions out and really finished two thousand seventeen with a lot of question marks not knowing exactly what what was going to have to inform this year to turn out has has been truly amazing. I mean, the fending two bills two different weight classes winning titles of just being active. It was it is truly been the year of my dreams for those that I've been following your life story your career. You have always been second. Place. You have always suffered. Heartbreak you've been successful up until when it really mattered when you can be called champion in this year to do what you did at thirty nine. How do you explain this like how does it happen? This way. This is the stuff that that like movie writer skip writers directors. They can't even dream of this area. I'm only said that in order to be able to be no spot right in the NCW finals would kill standards than losing in the Olympic final and the bronze medal Matt to get great. Rapids lose Jones white. These opportunities. I have earned, but I never earned that that bright moment that one shining moment widens, and that's the top the world, even as the US light-heavyweight ten for three and a half years area right now, I have the second longest light heavyweight championship reign of all time the John j-o-h-n even that since I'm second. But even in that long title wings, third Fulmer thirteen hundred days. There was always that shadow but not in a meal knocking out the most successful at Tampa. Wall time finally allowed me to step out on my own and truly be the man and the all of my accomplishments have kind of been second to that moment in July and in November thirty New York. Okay. So we have to address the elephant in the room as of this moment, technically officially you're no longer a double champ. You are no longer. The light heavyweight champion you voluntarily relinquished the belt on Friday morning and afterwards, you have see president Dana white said that you were being a little more dramatic too dramatic. Why did you do that? And how do you feel now seeing your rival holding the title that you once owned? You know, I did it because you know, for me, and I've always said his legacy matters. And when I look back on my legacy. I don't want it to say Daniel Cormie was stripped on December twenty eighth or whatever day was that those guys fought two thousand eighteen for them. I wanted to say Daniel Cormie vacated the belt stepped aside because when you're stripped of a championship in may, it feels like the person did something wrong, right guy. That have been stripped have been strip for ROY way, back in debt dot net got steroids. Jones been stripped because of the things that he had done wrong. Connor was stripped for inactivity. It's only been something negative in in. I didn't do anything to get the Bill take it from me. So I wanted to be on my own terms watching Joel built really doesn't do anything anymore. You know, he's a guy that kind of says things in doesn't. Necessarily think Bruce Lee Cormie was never light heavyweight champion. But he also said the same breath. I'm here coming get your belt back. So I was. You don't. You obviously did something yet doesn't nothing to me. I'm the king now time to change. So you continue to say you're going to retire in March. Honestly, how can you walk away from not doing that fight of time? It has to happen. Are you? It has to happen for me, not so much. But if it does not chasing this guy anymore. You know, I'm I'm not going to allow my career to hinge on the actions of guy that I thought twice and lost. But every time I've I've lost. There's been some issues in regards to the fight still. I know what I've done. I know where I stand in in the history of sport. And I'm okay with whatever happens one into the next year, you know. I was very sad. Fasten the fact that I was going to be done in March. I will lined up to March second in that would be fair world by got some injuries right now that that I've been dealing with. And I don't know that going to be the reason I may have to push things back. But we'll see, you know. I'm very open to everything right now. You know, Ariel. I've always imposed deadline myself. Nobody's walking me out the door. You know became having. We jam six months ago. So I flew down. But I know that there's some other things in my life that I wanna do. All right. We'll see what happens TC congratulations on a phenomenal year, the two thousand eighteen how Lonnie knows I mean you'd want. So many words you've done it all but to win this one on ESPN two this evening New Year's Eve while I can't imagine the emotions going through your body. Yes. Final word quick. I'm holding back here old back with peers, but Ariel did know as much as I love that. And I give my nice tiny feed summer two thousand nineteen. It may take it may be a little more important in the hell work. But maybe I'll take you as my date, those does that would be it's all in the family. I appreciate that the SP. It would be well deserve DC. Thank you so much. Congratulations on a great year and all the best to you and your family in twenty nineteen. All right there. He is the man himself DC the double champion was now the heavyweight champion. It is almost midnight. We are running out of time. Look at that four minutes ago. The celebration is going strong for the brand new era and makes martial-arts UFC on his kin. We've got one more block here we come. Creek look at us. Now. My man incredible. We did it. We did it. Happy new year. Happy new year, my friend. Have you enjoyed the show? It has been tremendous. Getting my my experience in the back there on live TV. Yes, I am getting almost just seen you wearing a Jackie O. No, no. While you're on Television, New era. Peon UFC coming together. January nineteenth you've got all the cards. What are you looking forward to my man? I am looking forward to we just heard from Daniel looking forward to DC versus John Jones opening in the new year at that clock. But over there. Oh, boy, it's happening. My man, it's happening. The new era is upon us. I can't thank everyone enough. Thank you so much for joining us on this special edition of the program. I can't thank everyone at ESPN enough for this opportunity this massive honor. We are ten seconds away from the brand new era commencing UFC on ESPN. It's star. Arts right now. Happy new year everyone. Coming up on this episode of UFC men event, we take you back to the beginnings of the biggest fight in US history. As undefeated lightweight champion. Habib Nurmamedov faces to division champ Conor McGregor. While the beads confidence record and skills made him a UFC fan favorite. His opponent was a mainstream superstar as their matchup went from idea phase to schedule main event the rivalry between the two athletes became deeply personal with each common. Amplified by the media outlets that followed mcgregor's every move. So before we replay their ultimate showdown. We walk you through the road that broad Connor and Habib to their UFC main event. By late twenty sixteen. Conor McGregor achieved what no fighter before ever have history-making performance by Conor McGregor with his lifelong dream. No conquer. Simultaneously reigned over two divisions in the UFC and the world anxiously awaited for the double cham- to announce what was next Edith made history and featherweight champion that lightly champ. Where do we go from here? But we so. I need to take myself in this bubble for a second. And just regroup for a twenty eight year old on top of the game. At all the bells all the money all number. Overly no, more on just going go for banjo to have a to be. And that's we'll see when I see. It was immediately clear that McGregor would proceed on his own terms. And the king of combat sports was ready to cash in. Conor McGregor and Floyd Mayweather going. Wanted to in this fight. I didn't believe this could be made. We are one of the greatest tacticians of any era and forty nine and don't get hard a fight to fight. I stay ready to fight record time ready now. Should've all kept show. He should've left me over on that game that I'm from this game will be balanced has the condos and grilled. Flow that everybody wanted. We're liberty. You see boxing Floyd, Connor? It's gonna make a lot of money for. She was an honor for me come over here in the bumps inside and showcase my skin. See what's next? I can't tell you. Exactly. What's next with? With some movie next. No. Could be made. Whether she a warning to you fan that doesn't hear anyone what do you say to Floyd Mayweather? I am deployed minimum. Male. With me you come for money. I come for league champion go back to. Mcgregor's height is from MA would continue well beyond his boxing endeavor. But he would maintain his position as reigning UFC lightweight champion. I lost melty lake never defend your belt. Someone to fight fulls. I could build in years to life with division. Two more lot of changing levels a lot of changing levels. Continue doing that. Here the fight with hub, even Connor. I I didn't really think much about it until you know, Connor became a lightweight. Then it became the champion. Still when you punch always the movement, then it became non existent. Yes. Guys, we see like they've become because with the gold come money come attention in a lot of stuff. Plenty of other opportunity him it some whiskey things sponsorships, and he's just got a lot of things going on. Was he sees back with that kind of money on my never come that. He's books is. His his glitches state in books. He says come back. But. Somebody. Monte shift to keep winning. You can build. Wings to see what happens with McGregor. Really? The pressures relentless and the helpless in the pace is just sure big shots by beam. Made Steve the course and I'll be right back on undeterred by down and steadfast in his lifelong pursuit round found nasty conscious top could be meaning proficiently have seek seven team fights. And I think okay, I can resting. I can I can striking full. I'm gonna follow. My he's getting mauled Barbosa space says it all he's overwhelmed here, I have more than everybody, even my soul. Even my soul. They're gonna give me I've got a war. Good. Twenty seventeen marked the first year of his UFC career that Conor McGregor did not appear inside the octagon. And by the following spring that his return dates, still unknown. The divisions interim champion Tony. Ferguson would meet Habib never go made off to determine the new owner of mcgregor's undisputed championship belt. The fight was set for April seventh in Brooklyn, New York. But before the UFC been touched down in the Empire State. Companies most chaotic bye week in history encountered the first of many hurdles this. Job twenty five he's injury. But the beautiful thing about this fort the stud hundred forty five pound champion, max Holloway is gonna step up phase Khabib this Saturday in Brooklyn New York in this for the official hundred and fifty five pound title. Mcgregor's presence loomed large over an event defined by the stripping of his belt with any of the bounced around the Alvarez any other guys I say fill up shopping. Okay. Twenty Palau who's champion. They call him trip of brings to listen all day number called they called. They call him ready connects. Connect. If you champion defend your all these guys when I'm reading them when I have injured something like this before they too much. Now, I'm here where you guys only Marx rollaway show up. He called himself is champion his king. King in jungle. Only one I'm gonna take this build. I'm gonna show my numbers eight into six undisputed and undefeated champion. Club. The winner would seem to line up with Han McGregor later this year. You had union this'll discussed with him. Is he interested in fighting the win this fight coming back this year? One hundred percent he will fight this year beyond this thing play out, and we'll go from there. These quantum graded easily guns on Saturday. I know. Be here on this. Obviously a fight that that is very important to him. And you'll get featured office Connor was here. With him. The bank. A chair through our widow of our bus. Sorry, guys. Okay. Everybody else those okay? He knows like now. Of course, we can. Forget. This shit announce where some school. You up to that time. Blue boy Mista trouble on this. They give him. This guy is going wrong. He's going through four. He's injuring other fighters the cancelled due to the McGregor bus incident. This never happened. Obviously everybody should make up. Regroup and get through this fight on Saturday. There's worn out for Connor McGregor. We heard arda might have been in that group of people. You know are off the card on. Fight chill. I give you slip with for you. These these these top that even more drama you have twenty three max Holloway. He was declared medically in eligible the ultimate fighting championship. The show must always go on ally. Went to step up here on short notice with an opportunity to change his life forever. Replacement was found for be dominated all the same. Stay. Away out that up just feet though questions for how long that law. Get mauled like everybody else before it's a terrifying thing. How much would you love to be a fly on the wall watching Conor McGregor watch out? Has been. As yours. Conor mcgregor? UFC lightweight championship. Was now around the waist of his nemesis Clinton guy. He come here. His doing his bus. I wanna real Gunston.

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Lawler vs Covington, Jeffery Dahmer Facts & Bro Cuisine

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Lawler vs Covington, Jeffery Dahmer Facts & Bro Cuisine

"Yeah it's the smooth sounds of the trap house variety hour this week we talk about Jeffrey Dahmer facts. These are the kinds of facts that can save your life. We break down the COVINGTON lawler fight. It's going to be on E._S._P._N.. Sweet P._J.. Pedestal fighting we try and figure that out apps ribbon sang hard coffee and I want some of that all of this and so much more here only on the trap house US Brian Lou there we appear to be back. Hi I-i get some different echoing going on this place if you notice that yeah it's a little echoey but when you have a craftsman's kitchen was this car now I think that's not a pressman had more would in it yeah. I don't know I mean Jesus. You know grasping. Okay okay would would shit yeah. We're Jason Highs Deluxe accommodation. It's not a bad kitchen like so you know. It's been pretty pretty handy since we've had it you gotta communal sort of island here that you eat on the cook and you got plenty of shopping shopping space. This is like the whole house has got that like more modern field. We're at your house a few weeks ago and we were talking about about how the the rooms are really sectioned off which we kinda liked. You know which I thought was like we're like Oh. This is nice because like other night we're in here and I was uh trying to cook a steak and I like turn the the the butter and stuff to get out on the cast iron skillet before went to go like snuggle with Jalen came back out in the fucking but it was just like smoking furiously meets smoking eight to like your is like tell you a lot van. I wasn't thinking a run your kitchen in your family thing about this is like wait a minute so you fucking put a skillet on with fucking butter in it and you like eat just like Pumpkin to bed yeah. I thought it was GONNA be like I know I didn't even think about it. I was just okay stakes coming out. I had it in the oven. You know stakes coming out of the oven. I need to put it on the cast iron and so I come out in the fucking the skill is just like smoking like furiously and the whole house smell smell like burnt butter for I think that's so like every time you walk into a house. You spell smell like basically fried garlic and Rosemary in the other other great thing about that is of course is your special friend almost burnt down the entire house cooking steak a couple years ago right yeah and so on the drill is opportunities or payback well listen. My special friend was in the kitchen while this is going on. I don't know so I walk out of the out of the room and I see the skillet and she goes. Let's kill it's really smart smoke like Oh yeah. Take it off the burner so I'm like running around the kitchen <music> opening windows and then I come back and I'm like Osh Bright. Take the fucking skillet off the burner. Yeah it was a it was a panic moment but that doesn't really help under help me understand what your special friend was doing win skill. It was smoking like where Ham not sure. Maybe she thought I wanted that that smoky that hot would win great to <music> Sierras. I should just went ahead with it. Put the steak on there today suited up real quick create allegri for yourself R._A.. Might as well get a tasty piece of meat out of so you're broil a your broil in the state and then you're gonna sit a bake it. It's super you know super like to twenty or some for like an hour however however thermometer in there yeah I gotTa make you WanNa do. They're good stakes over here so I I'm. I'm definitely not doubting you here yeah. That's the best okay do you put it in or the smoker doing the smoker. That's really good to you. Put it in there until the temperature comes up to like one twenty five thirty and then you put it on the grill or the cast iron just two sear both sides delicious and are you letting the stick set a little bit after that or or is it yeah. I need to do that because you had that slow cook <hes> lead up. I mean sometimes I do. If I'm like come hungry as edith. Sometimes I let it listen for ten fifteen minutes yeah yeah but <hes> it's ready to eat soon as thank comes off there off the grill or the cast iron for sure in what can we cut of steak. Are we talking about here. <hes> we do some Casey Strips last last time I did. I did this like big thing. I'm not sure what it was. WHO's like a really thick steak? That's kind of cowboy strip. That's what was a cowboy Rubai. Yeah can't the by that's that's why I like that too yeah. That was young fat on that. I like to come that up and slamming so oh yeah we did that and it's nice and thick. It's like maybe an inch thick you know super delicious in a couple of years ago to you bought a cow early to half a cow the right time right dead shut up like Jeffrey Dahmer. Put that shit in your downstairs freeze freezer already starting take it out. You're looking you wouldn't play with it like Jeffrey Dahmer. Would you couldn't was he playing with the reality at a whole bunch trophies not that that said this something you've we've been into. That's very judgmental of no knobs asking very common. That's that's actually a very common thing. Instead the you gotta be careful about sharing how much Jeffrey Dahmer Knowledge You have with other people occas. They'll meet them immediately. Judge You well you know and so oh I what what can the community of like minded Jeffrey Dahmer not enthusiast but at least that people with a large knowledge base whichever dahmer was up to is that the date they need a probe other people in like see what their level of Jimmy Domino interest is before they reveal my my level Jeffrey Dahmer Knowledge. I'M GONNA go with <hes>. I know that he is a serial killer and that he liked he people that that's that's pretty much it so oh go ahead though that's not information. That's going to keep you alive. You need to be careful amy alive yeah. What do you mean what if there was a there was a serial killer in your neighborhood hood and he was manifesting in evidencing all sorts of like Jeffrey Dahmer Type Track pet traits and all you knew about Jeffrey Gorsuch who is a serial killer in A._p.? But you didn't get to see this guy killed people need people however maybe he's like. He's my major league improving. I'm not saying like a specific Pacific neighbor but like what if you had a neighbor that was like giving away. What was the what would I be looking for their? Are you know starting to torture animals. I think that's yeah that's a big one. Torturing animals making like body suits out of human skin. I think Islamic come on. That's we're trying to figure out size of we're getting there though come on help me out well okay like in going off sounds Lance. Did you see that longtime tom ago yeah so that the bad guy sow slim buffalo bill yeah he he had a Nazi quilt was Jeffrey Dahmer in the Nazis and stuff I <music>. I'm sure that was part of fetish is some of that stuff so we had a Nazi quote. That's not good the other thing the buffalo build it is like as they did like a camera pan through his basement like torture chamber. There's a dead old lady in a bathtub so like if he has like a dead person at Batta like runaway on look I mean do I need to do. I need to know about Jeffrey Dahmer now. That lady in the Bathtub is warning sign for neighbor can explain shit way pretty good well. I have is dead person in my bathtub heavy seen. Did you see how the royals are dylan that kind of thing. Is that what I'm looking for baseball woller. Did you know my grandma did in my bad I could. I mean I certainly could there could be we're neighbors. I don't know any of my neighbors. I mean I know a couple of my neighbors but few money yeah no yeah I was just really really general statement and so yeah I guess I know you worked through it all on all by yourself there anyway and you have your you. Have your truth what we're talking about with the houses thing though was that your house has the rooms so if I were to smoke up the kitchen there or viewer smoked Norbert Kitchen like maybe your bedroom might be saved from that yeah yeah a little bit. Yeah sure sure I'm with you but but this open floor plan that delivers there's all sorts of smokes and smells did yeah all the way to better every time we walked in the house. You know your mind failures just like smoke near you're right. It's going it's going on but yes speaking that that led us to Jeffrey Dahmer Cereal Yeah the other thing. They have is shitty family life but you know that's that's I think that's kind of a debatable thing lots Bela sheedy families. Don't chop up other people eat them. Definitely <hes> Hoosier have other serial killers that you know about. Are you in a serial killer. No not I mean just asking. I don't care I <hes> I feel like I'm being I'm being you're on trial trying to trap me now a lot. I'm just interested to know if you know more about serial killer now I don't <hes> but I am a fan of sound slams yeah. That is one of those movies that if it's on T._v.. No matter where it is I will I will watch it to the end yeah because I think it's a it's a it's one of those great. It's a very well paced movie. There's lots of twists and turns of funny characters and the thing sure and and <hes> it's like a greatest hits you know it's a decent classic rock jam you know and so <hes> in it's not it's not a perfect movie <hes> in some but its imperfections are make an entertaining you know like for example like Buffalo. The bills basement is like it's like two city blocks like there's ulcer typing rooms and like there's a well in the motherfucker dry well L. O.. Is that the puts the lotion in the basket. That's where that's only a Gurney in a basement was in basement is like backyard or something. I haven't seen this in a while and then at the end like Buffalo Bill could've killed clarice starling or sterling aries and but he liked tried installed on her with his <hes> he styled on her with his <hes> his night vision goggles he just WanNa put them on. I'm like get an extra thrill out of the thing thing even though he was like danger closed like getting caught you know take care of business point my opinion in my serial killer. If you were part of the the lower there is like having a having a cat playing with a baby mouse you know doesn't WanNa kill it because then it would be downplaying with it. You know I see it was kind of going into next level like I'm GonNa take this to the next next yeah but in other chop it up and deal with all that you know yeah that's not fun. I had this great idea for a this is relative to the great idea. I had a gritted for a Halloween costume. There was a <hes> that there's a scene in south slams. I'm GonNa take you back okay when he kidnaps APPs the the heavyset girl that he keeps in the basement and has it wants to put delicious dinner. She gets the hose again. Do you remember I remember like this this that remember this line of question. You remember the premise remember how they got there. I don't remember what grade is it. Here's how they got there. In your freshman you're going to refresh my memory so for whatever reason like buffalo bill like encountered this girl like somewhere at the mall or something they can go home right right. He's like Oh. She's a perfect size because I'm looking for size fourteen girls. I don't know why and he's like in the because those are the size of the girls that I wanna make my body suit. You'd have okay Lee thinking about some shrinkage maybe when he does the curing process and says that yeah I think I like when you knit human skin together and you make a body suit that of a person or a number of different people that there's a lot of like all sorts of things you gotta consider right who wrote this movie <hes> I duNNo I dunno as directed by Jonathan Demme whose like an eighties eighties Guy Eighty stricter guy ninety stricter guy so anyway so he he he his the way he got her like Horn Suave and captured her. Is that he like He. He had a couch okay he. He had his man okay all right. Van is another down by the river one of those van if somebody has a conversion van they're they're on on spectrum on here yeah because they need that mobility in Reno space yeah so it's like. I don't even care if it's like. I don't care if it's like a Mercedes Z.. Sprinter van I still put you on on the list unless it's a minivan which is like family tope thing that's true. Can't I mean there's not enough room in a minute I mean there's some of those many bands are pretty rummy but not quite as many as a sprinter art will let me let me let me put it this way. If I can't see through the middle of Your van you're realistic. It doesn't have any windows I might have so our so here's the thing so he had his van right and he put on a fake arm cast so he had heard are you're okay and then he had this couch. Okay he had a big couch. He's trying to push into his me in like did it by her like he saw her coming out of her car so he's trying to get the couch into the command and he's like clearly need help okay. He comes over and helps them. Excuse me Sir. Can I help you. Yes you can help rigor. Can you get in the back of the van just pull and push okay ready three one two who three and so and then incredible who has my buffalo bill thank you and so at that point then he pushes the van like into knocks over and then hits her over the head with the cast asked okay. Here's my great idea for a Halloween costume and it actually needs to people are here. I am ready for bowl recruiting well. I mean if if just tell me interested I'll go if we had to be invited to Halloween Party for small both of us okay. I'm going to go to the Halloween party dressed as buffalo bill with the broken arm cast in a in a couch. I can walk around with and so it's going. I'd be like a dumbing out in so maybe it's like a miniature catch. Maybe like half a couch and I think that'd be kind of funny so tired of this well well I mean I think we're GONNA have to build up a machine or something. I'm not sure but then here's the great thing you're gonNA show up the party just like a half hour later also dresses buffalo bill with the arm cast couch in. I think it'll be hilarious. Why are both of us is Buffalo Bill? I thought you can say like one of his dressed up like chicken. Then we do the scene the kidnapping become you'll be on the shedding shutting artists Okay Buffalo Oh bill and we both have these huge couch attachments to our you know we're like carrying couches In can you hope it carries this car. Is that pretty good with my on the way you're basically second try and he almost nailed gay and so I don't know I I think that's high concept. I think it'd be really entertaining. I mean I would be entertained and you'd be entertained addressing up or should somebody else drives up the cost him. I think I think <hes> you know I think people will get very tired of it down in that makes funny for me but ah that like yeah. That's half the battle with aline costumes. You're like hoping people tire of your costume. No I want <hes> I.. I want to put people out. I really want I really want like WanNa ruin their fun. It lifts my phone level. It's you know we'll let we'll come back to it. I guess you don't have to say yes or no right now. Okay yeah not blocked sitter the Halloween's a few months away yeah. I got you know a little little bit of time yeah to the decision but in in I know in the past sometimes you have coordinated like <hes> Halloween costumes with your family. Guys have done a theme or at least maybe one year you did. Oh No. I'm I'm just I'm just <hes> dragging dragged along. Tell you Yeah Simon Right. You know how this living living with ladies so <hes> yeah we we did <hes> we did what we do. Oh I was slammer one year yeah. They were the ghostbusters at a big inflatable. Slammer suit that was fun was like a suit that you head like constantly inflate or was it in one no inflatable. It had a fan on it. A battery repaired battery fan yeah. They'll look pretty good. I saw inflated you know my mom Jalen an an were ghostbusters others and then allows Chewbacca one year that was fun except for the hair coming off of that <hes> costume I was not fun competent a heat and it just made me sneeze I wanted to do I couldn't get. I couldn't get everybody on board with this idea I want to do the girls were going to be seal team six and I was going to be Osama bin Laden. I was GonNa like an enormous Edward and like and they're getting like like just like bushmeat hunters taking you around trick or treating yeah. I thought that would have been like a prisoner where our yeah just or maybe I guess I could have been on a Gurney Arnie or something that actually be due to lay around yeah near out. That sounds like maybe I should be somebody in a wheelchair next year. Soccer <unk> re be rolling around Halloween. You can be professor x you can do next every go yeah yeah come a hair though I'm sure they got a wig Baldwin and just make my head look bigger. I work again. That's fun. Professor X could do that. He's toll in wheelchair got. You got one more wheelchair hero for me with C.. You could being you could be the born on the fourth of July Guy Attorney Kovacs or something in her house new. I don't remember that one now as Tom Cruise Star vehicle born on the fourth of you mean days thunder anytime on no now <hes> but <hes> he was in a movie called <hes> born fourth of July he was was yeah. Oh I didn't know any wheelchair yeah that's like. I don't know if it's GONNA lifting by spirits but you know it's important to remember in about as bad as much as a what's his name. Shelvin people ended the fucking sprinter vans name Buffalo Bill why why they named Buffalo Building because I think buffalo bill may be skin buffalo or something like that. I think buffalo hides. Did you see that that little girl yellowstone get tanked by the buffalo this week hike. No I saw the link to it. It was <unk> such hot. Click Bait. I just said I WANNA see some trouble it was it was funny so how did she put herself in dangerous fucking. I don't know what's going on but people are getting too close to wild animals like they're. They're like twenty feet away from this buffalo you know in the buffalo just fucking ain't having it and fucking fucking charges this little girl so girls probably think. I think it said she was nine and she gets thrown doing flips the whole time like probably ten feet in the air where does a couple of flips and lands. I guess you got lucky and just had some bumps and bruises but buffalo sent her flying buffalo went. Low Man on her assist lifted her straight up. You know these things are I don't know I don't know how big they are. Probably twelve hundred pounds or something. Maybe I mean it looks looks pretty big. You know I've never stood nice to buffalo but you know compared to the people that were in the frame like this thing with gigantic like I think I saw like a junior near Lyon that somebody like tranquilized and there are do measurements on. I think it was like five hundred pounds you know and that I think a big line gets like seven hundred but <hes> in buffalo or bigger and wider immediate than in so I think yeah you can get that you could get that high so it wasn't a junior buffalo image. I don't know really I guess like could have been like could have been like an eight hundred pound buffalo which either way that's going to be looking way bigger than a five year old and they're jacked mean. They're they're definitely on Akito. Diet now or eaten like well. It doesn't matter what they're getting lots. Exercise is out there yeah Mike Big Getting reps in. They look like those things from <hes>. Remember the Mario Brothers those <hes> forget it was character. I think maybe the the bullet remember those bullets Yousef I after after jury you know they were just plain black kind of reminds me of those the way that they're shaped and they're you know. Magid haven't thing charging edge fuck all that yeah China and she's lucky. She got the forehead because those guys have some horns do that's. That's some serious score stuff. Yeah man so you gotta stay away from these guys. Give them their their. They're wide berth. Would you run with the Bulls in Spain that big <hes> series where they they they run from the Bulls and all that stuff I pry would out not for that. Yeah I mean I mean a couple of people die year. I'm sure but <HES> I think that like I'm conditioned well enough that I should be able to handle that. I should be at the very least at worst I would get injured. You know that you think you can you can make that a quick cut to just like your it's like if if you're running from a line with ten people you just have to be slower than nine of our faster faster than nine of them so I think in that situation <hes> I'm faster than nine of those people budget yeah a bunch of drunk euros basically yeah. I mean not that it had been all day I mean I think it was a session to yeah right. We're going to be equal in that regard sure so you've got a little more <hes> snap muscle fiber and that's not even honestly there's so much random shit that goes on in a situation like that. That's not like that's not the main indicator are your fitness of. What of what could happen but I just think statistically wise. I'm statistically wise if I saw myself and there was a need to put a bed on one of those guys getting fucked up today. I wouldn't put the bet on myself. Yeah Okay I.. I hear hear that yeah. I just think how come out I would go to come out in if I didn't do it. It will be worse than if I didn't. I got injured if I was there and somebody asked me if I wanted to go down there and run with them and I was like no. I think I'd be like pissed off myself the rest of my life you know he had just. I never got to go back. Cellphone Self Self Shamed for the rest of your life. It's like the original song fucking bulls run attack got in right. You know yeah yeah I mean I.. I'm not even trying or anything about me making that last minute cut that last-second cut to say my life I for me. It's really just a matter of math is that I think I can live with a math in in that but it also even though I'm living with the math I'm still on the spectrum of death sure which is exciting sure I mean and it's also you know I get to <unk>. I get to party with my bras for a day and I get you know everybody. There's a big communal thing because we're all sharing in the death experience. You know I mean yeah. You almost have to jump on that one. Now I was trying to tell this to some of the movement to scout camps on the girls whose like listen all the funds shit. It's Kinda dangerous. You know so imagine how much fun run with the Bulls probably allowed on dangerous but it's private onto to your they're like Jalen. Daddy told me that all the fashion is dangerous. Think about that yeah. It is like well we thinks about it and he's honest with themselves. Yeah fucking Jason's right yeah Jason's right. Give me some death on here. <hes> you. WanNa do a quick just discussion about this upcoming fight which I thought was interesting because you've been in these guys as the train with these guys so I think he got that familiarity with with with some of the skill sets ceased to bring into the table the fight that's it's coming up in a couple of weeks or you know. I've been pretty soon after this podcast comes out of the Kobe Comington versus Robbie lawler so <hes> <hes>. Let's just start with your most recent experience is with Colby's are right training in a little bit of sparring their way out here. Yes gimme. Give me your precious to him. <hes> the last hour not with him was ripe for he fought though. Sonya has been a few years <hes> but he he's. He's always been a tough round. You know tough session anytime you get with him grappling or or sparring he's getting he's getting better. You know you know like I mean him. Actually we were down in American top team. <hes> we both came like went there at the same time so he was like him in. Massad bacteria can a couple of the guys were like some of the first young got not the first yes but like they were some of the young guys they had <hes> down in American top team like living there. They had this house. It was close to the gym they lived in and I would go. Stay in the bedroom. They were there fulltime and I would go stand a bedroom and I was in town in that house so l. yet from then to now like he's obviously gotten a lot better you know but <hes> yeah and Robbie haven't trained with quite a while actually action in from from your perspective. How can you see that like how can you see somebody get better from when you train with them versus when he seemed just in a fight like how can you recognize that advancement <hes> well put him like he's always been a really good grap. Learning you know whenever arrested or comes in and starts doing Jujitsu. There's like they. They progress pretty quick. You know just from knowing have positional awareness ernest. No one had a drill and that type of thing so I wasn't too surprised you know that he was getting better on the map but his hands have gotten a lot better to hands and feet. You know so he's a you know. I had some some training with them. In both areas like years apart you know so like in two thousand twelve or thirteen or whatever and then you know two dozen seventeen whatever whenever he fought dosages so yeah you know he's just been down there living and <hes> training you know so it's hard not to get better when you're in an environment like that now so especially guy cameras highly biathlete coming from another sport. That's in the where the train philosophy kinda allows you to be successful and Emma. May you know kind of just gives you the framework to know how to have drill and had a spar and how to fight their adversity and just kind of be in the gym everyday like so yeah. I mean he's <hes> he's doing well one of the places that I've always I've I've liked colby that a lot of people probably disagree with is that I do like his. I think he cuts a funny Promo. I think he's committed to the bet you know of this sort of hard right sort of Maga- <hes> Uber Alpha but it's got a little. It's got a touch of humor to it. You know it's it's kind of it's not necessarily tiny tongue in cheek but I think there's some funny to me and I also had the respect that if that is his gimmick that he actually took that Gimmick to the White White House and got in front and got with Donald Trump Donald trump you know signed his belt or whatever you don't picture with them and everything and it's like you know now say whatever you want about trump or Kobe's like what a great commitment to the bit that you take it to the to the ultimate level that you can't actually go any higher could Jim Gallagher Yeah Yeah and both Gimmick Irs benefited from Ray. It's like that that that moment in the matrix tricks work canneries gets to stand in front of the Computer God or whatever and you know ask him questions and that's how I imagine it the the ultimate mind I imagine Koby and <hes> trump meeting like always questioning like what would it you know what is the key to the gimmick now outside well. Kobe you know goes on and as fucking stupid gimmick talk but it's not stupid fucking. He's the president got three whatever but twenty million people to vote former however many he's GonNa get it again so I think I mean yeah and this is not an endorsement. It's just recognition his gimmick. You know that he's figured this whole thing out the matrix of voting yeah of of the public. What do they call that guy up key maker but he's the I think it was the key master. Lima goes the guy that they got out the Asian. Guy That had all the keys remember. I forget what they call this guy but that's trump no yeah the <hes> will them so wh with with lawler you know <hes>. I guess in that matchup of Kobe versus lawler like what do you think the where is their a significant advantage that either guy has over the other or would you know how if you were going to game plan or here's a different way to approach it. If you'RE WE'RE GONNA game playing Colby's fight against lawler. How'd you gain planner for Colby for Kobe. I'd say that he has the kind of fight the game blends. GonNa look similar to how he fought. Los China's except for those on us. You know I mean if we're talking about like knockout power. <hes> you know lawler would be a little ahead of designers in that respect so can't really he can't really afford to take as many blows from law like he was able to do though signers like. I felt felt like he was able to kind of walk us on just down a little bit just because you know coal is not a huge well two way but though Sanyo this is <hes> you know on the smaller side of that way class <unk> a little bit shorter in coming up from lightweight now so and Robbie is kind of the opposite. He's he's like. He's not a huge huge welterweight but he's he's a little bigger than Kobe in his power is preserved powers. Yeah ours you know a lot more than dose Angeles so I think the the game plan for Kobe would resemble that he's GonNa have to kind of corral Robbie and and hoped like pressure take him down. I think on the mat kind of in that like blending blending techniques together the whole game together like this take downs in his striking. He can't just he's not gonna be just <hes> standing up with Robbie because that really favors Robbie favors Robbie you know yet there was that great quote from the older jazz brother. He's like he's like he can't take Robbie lawler punches to your head bad for your health. It's kind of a paraphrase but I mean <music> speaking very direct honest truth there. Yeah no Robbie is like you know <hes> since the days of military we've heard about. How powerful Ravi is like <hes>? I remember hearing this a reunion. <hes> I forget that magazine I think it was grappling. Magnet used to kind of turn into an intimate magazine for a while there militants was talking about how he used to spar with Robbie but then he's like now. This isn't fun anymore so he's like this is not fun anymore. Respond Robbie so far anymore you know and I've seen I haven't sparred with Robbie but I've seen a lot of his sparring down when he was American top team and he even has kind of a he's got like a an awareness of that power you know so. I'm not sure like what the you know. A lot of boxing people will tell you that power is just something that people have you know that you can you can accentuate it or you know now they can atrophy. You would not use but it's not something to like work yourself into you know have any don't so Robbie's <unk>. I guess Kinda knows this because I've seen Amin's barring like hill spill be smart a bunch of rounds and and then like hill see the guy he'll he'll see the guy wearing out a little bit like it's late round and held like go. You should protect yourself. Now you know give the Guy Guy Hi Kinda like a warning like textile and so he kind of knows that he's a he's got a little bit of extra power. You know the people maybe are not used to you know also. That's you know him. Being a good trainer partner. He knows knows that he's telling me guy like hey. I want to open up a little bit now. He like that's just kind of like a good good. Look for training partner you know in even like going back to talking about lawler strength and his his ability to sort of use that strength going back to the Ben Aspirin fight when aspirin probably had top position on him and almost like working at kind of like a top crucifix Bruce Effects where he had controlled probably his arm with his legs and then the other arm he was like basically draped over the top of lawler but lawler or socially schilder stood up and power behind aspirin into oblivion. You know almost into oblivion you know obviously uh-huh and aspirin is a legit knows top pressure knows how to stay heavy in knows how to stay out of these fucking getting put on an elevator type jams right yeah yeah I mean to see him listed up like that was pretty spectacular. You know those those crazy fight. I wish it kind of wish it would have been able to see a normative formative end you know but can't have everything I guess yeah <hes> so I I it's right now. The odds are roughly a call a COVINGTON COVINGTON minus two hundred or minus twenty and then you know they're coming back at plus two hundred plus one seventy five <hes> and the odds opened up with Colby being a little bit less favoured but I think he was played pretty. He's been played at least early pretty heavily or at least for anime may be sports betting which I don't think has a lot of volume attached to it but <hes> so that's that's how at least Vegas sees this fight is Kobe you now <hes> minus two hundred or bet two hundred win one hundred be right now which is pretty. It's not it's not a Gimme but it's a that's. That's a that's a tiny bit rich. It feels a little rich for colby. You know what I mean. Over five rounds <hes> you know colas always been in pretty good shape shape so that's kind of one of his attributes you know so I think like if I had to find a bet the house at pry bet on on Colby Obi but <hes> you know I'm kind of hoping that Robbie is able to win that you know we'll see so uh it's really a great promotional setup in that. If Colby wins he continues to elevate escalate his his position mission and I you know I think it'll be interesting to see where it goes from there you know that title shot or whatever and then but if if <hes> lawler wins than lawler colors certainly you know a high profile title candidate again you know and so I think it's a win win for the for promoter <hes> and win for a fan. I think you know in both those both of those guys that are either guy loses out of that. There's still plenty of interesting matchups waste for those sketched to go to the I'd like to see. I don't know I mean there's a lot of good like you said I mean I'd like to see any of those guys. Versus Woodley Again Robbie again or or colby you know so <hes> but yeah there's there's a matchup stare for sure you know <hes> I wonder I guess the winner would probably Alright get get the championship Fi. You know Kobe Kobe Zeman. It's for that for a while thank you. I'm not even sure what happened with that. They they kinda stripped him but for no reason basically I don't know yeah I I mean if you that's just that's a piece of the business that you know doesn't really reward you by by really diving into you know it's like here we are so what are we gonNA do. <hes> did you see that they may be Japan. Versus Nick Lands is that a fight coming just got made. I saw a couple of hours ago. I was like Whoa you know after after the last fight after B._J.'s fight <hes> Dana was saying they like he didn't WanNa see them fighting him anymore. You know and you know I'm not <hes> Kaunda judging whether B._J.. Can fight anymore. It's up to him you know but <hes> versus Mike Lynch whose ACI it's like kind of still top of the middle in that in that are bottom of the bottom of the elite there you know like he's he's up at at lightweight. He's looked really good. You know so yeah I mean I don't know I don't know why they would why why they would book that forever B._J.. You know I've been B._J.. Mark for a long time I I I like L.. I liked his fights. You know throughout his career and that's like when I started paying attention amaze when he was starting to peak you know right and in that certain interchange between Matt Hughes and she has p. and B._J.. You know that was a really interesting sort of you. Know <hes> a trilogy or Tri factor those three units sort of revolving around each other being close which each other in terms of competition and so and so I I'm I'm I'm Dalla B._J.. And of course I love his like you know those those legendary embeds where like he's like training running across S._E._O.. Shore Iraq and then he's taking a ten day vacation after Dana calls them. Dan is like what are you doing him and he's like <hes> you know. No we're just GONNA head to <hes> Kona and endangers like Oh yeah how long gone out there for and vide goes <hes>. <hes> you know not very long crawly. You know about ten days. Contain is like what the Fuck B._J.. You're in the middle of camp like you can't leave for fucking ten days well. Let's talk about let's talk about the defense of that that prospect okay so if eve you've had if you've been training and sparring hard leading up to that point what is the point where if you pull the plug on sparring hard and just stick with cardio and stick with movement or anything like that like how far advanced the fight you actually pull the plug. B._J.'s going to Kona for ten days I he what's the difference instinct Kona in the Big Island Buddy. You're you're on Hawaii. If you're in Hawaii definitely can understand the difference you know off yeah but I'm just saying like don't you think you can. Maybe we go to Conan after the fight after fight George saint-pierre. WHO's you know no slouch understatement of the year right right so <hes> I don't know ten days or maybe look? We're going to count on for the weekend okay. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA run. I'm B._J.. Panam hiring. I got my pad guy with me too and a couple of wrestling partners. There's run conifer the weekend days. Get no no no. I mean now. If I'm really talented. They still pretty talented. That's drew to write like just don't know but I mean he close and he lost that fight him. I'm pretty sure he he lost that one. Would you know for I guess he was able to get away with that kind of thing for a long time so I don't know what can you really tell them you know and with all that said I mean you know of all my my respect for in everything I've seen in the past and I've just seen this guy takes some hellacious fucking beatings these last three fights you know where you know. He just looked like he was his reaction time. In terms of striking was just was was was real super slow and you know his ground game is just as getting real pushed over over you know and so it's like <hes> but the man wants to fight. Let's let them fight on and so it in in if you're GONNA do with the promotion promotions going to give us. That's GonNa pay give you that exposure that you want. Let's go for it but I would like to see you know. I think you're kinda pushing herb. You're you're working your way towards this is that I'd like to see him with some legacy fights. You know let's try it out. Maybe Frank trigg or something. You know you know something like that because because I am down with that kind of man I like those matches I e you're not GonNa shake me off that I I liked his legacy or those. Those legacy type matchups with me frank triggers like he sou he super tired he fun years. He's doing like movies and shit and that was decimated fresh. Nah I mean but that's a good example. You know what I mean. What if what if like I mean? I don't think Matt Hughes confided anymore but would have the legacy tour legacy tree out where those three are fighting again. You know there's they do a four man tournament tim him Johnny of G._S._p.. T._C._U. Kick Shit at all at this point. Is he still yeah. G._S._P.'s still operating at that level yeah now yeah so frank trigg Japan. Mayhew's and I don't even know you know some other. Maybe like Ivan. Saleh Berry or some shit is watching like <hes> I do have my d._v._R.. On a record record for any strikeforce rebroadcast and so I get to see some of those griddle those great nate Nate non-core yeah yeah I am bid needs like a big. He's big nouns company but you know we'll let's figure out we'll get a catchweight going to cut anyway in two shows heavyweight before the threat against a yeah my man who is the ultimate mark for the Moment Yeah Dragon is John The dragon era. I love it. was there in spirit okay yeah. I was watching television okay. I was watching on television or doing it. Ah No they're really relieved. I believed in the drain on team Machida Yeah I wasn't on. I wasn't like you know on the fence. You know dispassionate Professional National Observer Mark for Dragon Professional over that Crotty man all right yeah wins every time Tim an inspired by the cat. You know you got a problem or that free thing chronic but my leg was you or I'm not very at all the hairless bike as so. What's your cat's name who Roger Roger? I guess Taylor's got <hes> Indian friend young lady named Obituary. I don't know if I had his name. <hes> she tells us that that means King Wean her language so yeah. That's the girl he's a boy Bro. I guess he's like Androgynous. You know so really it's just it's just me the two ladies in an Androgynous cat in the house yeah yeah more of a eunuch because unique eunuch yeah yeah yeah yeah we gotta be careful the label well. I mean you know this is a gender fluid or gender positive podcast agree. Yes is totally eunuch the Eunuch Kitty. Let's do one more subject are can we talk about P._B._R.'s hard coffee. That's the subject of this is important to me. Okay like P._B._R.. Though I think you have we been somewhere in you've ordered p why though <unk> at that was a place for the poor house yeah we went there and this is like this is more Hickey. This disbars granted set the scene Priyanka so this is a bar is built on the side of a Walmart right. Hey right a walmart parking lot A.. K. Loud even a good Walmart. It's a fucking. It's a market market Walmart. Good Walmart go in there. Leave my fucking car in there. They don't have a car place. I want a Super Walmart dammit. I don't WanNa wait a minute car place. Would you mean yeah yeah you know how warmer Walmart has like the tire place like a regular Walmart. Okay they have yeah. I WANNA go get an oil change at any Walmart that I'm forced to be around really yeah. I gotta be able to take my car there. GET TIRED chip. I want to be able to get worthy grocery demand. I've never really heard somebody like say. This is what I need to have it. I would be able to go get more than groceries there. I WANNA get everything they're like. If I have to go into Walmart I WANNA be able to get lot's of Shit. They're talking like T._V.'s Fook and tires catch a greeting cards groceries ammo ammo yes any toys amine. All kinds of shit not just gross. I don't WanNa go herbs yeah. I don't WanNa go in a grocery store her Walmart <unk> grocery store. That's not what I'm going to Walmart for okay. I'm just saying all right so this. This is a bar built. That's built somehow now on the side of a Walmart they do make more. It's like the bar it's like normally where like the loading dock would be okay and then they like they bill in the parking lot like they blacktop essentially the blacktop is your patio area okay and they threw some shit back there like you know awesome tables and chairs and a couch the Meyer Shit yeah I mean they're doing their best so it's it's a pretty it's a rule precedes. Sort of joint needs got A._G.. A._G. Dive into it but that that's why about his yard in one last thing I'll back up when perhaps we'll be. I mean the People Walmart my people okay. I mean that they are me okay. The only problem with Walmart is it's a fucking. It's just a big mass. It's a cluster fuck. It's like they just have palace shit laying around everywhere. Nothing's organized you know and I just I don't WanNa do that. Yeah I the my main problem with Walmart at is there's when you go in. There's a twelve minute. You're going to be in there for twelve minutes. Average regardless garlic of what you're getting you know every time I go there. There's either an incredibly long line at checkout or there's incredibly Wrigley Longline at self-checkout Youth. Even if there's a short line itself checkout you know you're GonNa have some issue where like the one employee working self-checkout has the common fucking put their code in to my machine to do some shit so that's why I don't I hear what you're saying there was there was a I did go to Walmart because next to the gym location Dude I've been killing that Walmart I mean and so I got gum and some bread okay and some old lady was fucking things up at the self-checkout right and I can't blame her because self-checkout. It's not it's not you know it's not perfectly Terminology and so she couldn't figure out where to put the bills and once again. I'm not mad at her either because you know it's not it's not totally intuitive you but then she like she like walked away and like of course I'm around topless. I'm going right behind her to get it but I don't want an crowder of course and then but cheat like her chaser spit now now like Ma'am you forgot your change and then she comes back and the only reason I bring this up is because I gave her the change and I'm like I'm like here you go. Here's your change inch and she's like okay. I go thank you and I was like what am I. I work at fucking Walmart. Why am I think of this right? Thank you for he's coming in today and I'm like I don't know I don't know if I was mad at myself for like Santa Monica worked there or mad at myself for like emasculating the old lady you know because like just because it doesn't mean that she needs to be treated with fragile kid gloves you know but anyway. I don't know I hear strich thank you what is dummy. I need to get my my head examined. No I order perhaps because cold pabst is is just a notch below cold Miller Miller highlife. I like Miller highlights. If it's super cold the champagne and beers it was to be super cold because the minute that she gets living close legs whispering warm. It's fucking it's swill. Will it's fucking glue. Basically you're drinking glue to yeah. It's bad so I see good. The reason I've ordered P._R.. Is On fucking special. It was on special. It was like two dollars for a fucking like a tall boy in the and in the Burgers were five ninety nine and so I was like I can get a buzz in my belly full for eight bucks here. We go you know so that's that's where my mind frame was. You know we walked in there and <HES> and I go. Is there waitress or something. Is there a waitress or something and he goes no. I'm the only one here I was like Dan. Okay sorry I got a truck the shit out to the parking lot myself but in my lap <hes> so anyway but here's so pabst blue ribbon had an incredible product innovation that I think was designed for people just like me so this is in the near post P._B._R.. BAPS were ribbon has a coffee beer hybrid percolating bouncing getting back from a there's a marketing gimmick they called the PABST blue ribbon shortage of two thousand eighteen visit coffee and beer the enduring of him imp- American brewing company's testing his new hard coffee in select states p._b._R.'s depressant stimulant cocktail Combo has made him Arabica and robust or beans rich American milk. It's hyped as tasting like premium. Vanilla infused iced coffee but packs up five percent A._B.. Devi panch in five percent will get you where you need to go drink so <hes> this is not coffee and beer though right today who that wrong now. It's it's some some sort of liquor is beer. You know just like a liquor is D- waste here. Liquor is lemonade booze coffee but I don't want coffee beer and Robusta coffee beans. That makes me suspicious to why 'cause we're bus. Though is that gross coffee the Kinda like like if you go to a fucking. I don't think guests like some of the gas stations have decent coffee now but back in the day when you go to a a gas station and get coffee in it smelled like burnt popcorn that's robusta coffee <unk> she ever knew that bad coffee really and how did you learn this just on that went on some right now. We're not some deep dive about coffee when I learned that all aw coffee was was <hes> is from Africa like yeah so I I know a bunch of random shit. What about Kobe like <hes>? Did you know that MOCHA has nothing to do with chocolate. It's it's MOCHA's a portent. Africa just got somehow completed conflated with a chocolate flavored coffee. I did not know that that's another random thing I learned and so what are we all from Africa. Though I mean this. Can I get a little repetitive but I guess not every plant animals from Africa so yeah yeah no I am but but coffee and humans coughing sprang from that lush verdant green <hes> what is the Nile. I think I think coffee's Mo- most coffees from Ethiopia really yeah which is like a dry like high desert or something or not alive as ask you're getting you're getting out of my wheelhouse. I don't even have a wheelhouse to get there so and the Robusta coffee is not cheap. That's why you know. Kinda tastes like coffee. Just kinda get that weird already. Not You off. This thing. Damghan started yet. Will I mean like I said I'll try it. I if you had some of those I would drink one you know but <hes> like I mean I I guess is how far away is starbucks from Rockin this kind of be and yeah <hes> you know or even like Pudding C._B._C.. Or Aura or Jay Z in his capone is coming for sure I was in a starbucks in Florida like probably two years ago and they had like wine in all kinds of shit like that you know and I thought start seeing that other places but I really haven't you know I had this idea for a he coffee shop that like doubles as a wine bar. Go ahead yeah. That's Bas- community during the day it's coffee shop and then like turns turns into a wine bar yeah the whenever these layers bottles right now feel like you need to you know switched reached over. Probably you know probably changed throughout the throughout the year like in the summer. You're going to have called for a little bit longer. You know I can always tell how much stress my wife is. Under under how disbelief she is with me the whenever the wind bottle gets opened on really yeah unlike Tuesday ended up bottle of wine. It's like you know like of course five o'clock is like you know the U._S.. Standard right the bag no one no. There's you can't jeter lush yeah five o'clock so yeah correct the thing opened five. No one can say about you but like I can tell like when like I'm fucking up or <hes> you you know she's just displeased with me or like some something like it open for the open. It's like they started doing laundry talk. That would be a problem so that's like a good barometer for our relationship. That's good yeah. It's nice to have like it's like a you know like an outdoor thermometer. You just look at them on low at the temperature you know and so my thing about this when I saw this pabst blue ribbon or I'm sorry the the hard coffee I was like well. It's like a poor man's speed ball you know. How could you get an upper end a downer on the thing but if you think about that that's actually that's fucking stupid because you can get like a hit all for like ten bucks? You know yeah Bris death so it's like a slam coke yeah so it's like if I can get that for like ten bucks and I'm not going to be fucking with a fifty dollar. Pack of like <hes> of of hard coffee has coffee the other my other danger on this this thing and I'm going to try whenever I can get my hands on. It's not available within a hundred miles of Kansas City. He added check. They're doing. It's not WANNA test cities but like a lot of this hard stuff has like a high sugar acid content and so it just gives it opens up fucking sores on my stomach. I guess you know and so I basically like double over in pain while I have my I buzz at some fun. No No. It's not a trade off to make right now yeah well. You know people know that sugar corporations now that sugar is like you can get somebody hooked on a bunch of sugar in it and you know it gives people buzz. Two people may be more likely to buy that. She was good. You know you've put some sugar in it. Follows fails Robusta coffee to coffee cheap sugar does like if I'm going to house party and like I'm going through the the cooler Taylor and I see like a fucking like a wine cooler or I'll see you know like a hard lemonade all grab and pop that thing and drink it. You know I but ah I just I guess I'm not cut out to buy to buy a four pack or six pack and rocket at home. You know just not. I'm not that strong for them. They'll do one of them. Yeah Yeah I wish I I wish I had the metal for it. You know yeah the Constitution a lot of <hes> a lot of alcoholic drinks like that are are too sweet for me. I don't know it's like I don't know what's going on but like I like wine cooler hard lemonade or side or anything like that. I'm not sure what it is but it's like they're little too sweet for me while I was fucking with some with some canned white wine and I thought he'd the other day well. I know I mean white wine is like the perfect perfect amount of sweetness like Chardonnay or something. I mean chardonnays pretty sweet I think I don't know it was in my belly. I the CAM was empty before I could even labels. I don't know what I'll do my why that's like you know I like i WanNa do I wanna like Sweden's. I guess chardonnays private favorite white wine yeah which is he's like. The sweetest has got to be the sweetest wine yeah sure but but the way that it's delivered is you know there is some fermentation there is a little bit of a natural process there not just pouring we're in a fucking gap sugar and Syrup on top of to mask some sort of horrible taste yeah yeah so. I guess that's a difference but it but that white wine in buzz is a good one sugar together. We'll give you a high headache to you'll have a headache after that yeah yeah. That's that's yeah no you can't you can't hydrate your way out of that. You'RE GONNA get one chardonnays Yummy though Dude Uh Smash Chardonnay she going Yeah Kid Rock Weird ordering that though Mike can I have a I want to say it was like a French inflection just so it's not so like Chardonnay the I don't know it sounds pretty good. I yeah more smooth and French. You know he just brought the smooth there. You know it's it's like all the white ones have super superlight names like that. We kind of feel like uppity saying like Pino Greasy. Oh you know would it would fucking advancing tonight. You know Riesling yes. That's a soup. That's a super calm. I won't even order that you worry with the penile just order piano. I can't even I'm not

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"He's a rapper. He's a movie star. He's a father of four. He also happens to be one of the best Walter waits on the planet is Tyron Woodley Day on food truck down I am I've been trying to you on the show for quite some time here. You might be the only guy more busy than me you know I. I don't know if I'm busy in the nineteen show Jamaica I order. What are you gonNA give orders and help to see it? I'm not well Kiddo. I'm so far yeah you'd like a superhero. They all do the FAJITA boom with no rice no beans and I wanted to a bowl with rice black black beans. Can I do double chicken no she's nobody would like me. If I think cheese you're actually tweet for the longest. I've been proven wrong a million times on this. I always said you can't be a high level fighter and then do all this other stuff outside. I said that when you first start it's a dangerous road because you're one foot in one foot out and you're doing you know at the time there's do you see tonight stuff. You got your rap career. You got your moving movie career. You got the family you got your podcast yet. TMZ You doing all this stuff especially before the Jaren till I went woodley. He's he's making grabs. He's he's doing this. He's the album release parties movies I said. What do you think Jaren tells doing? He's in the gym working so I feel like Woodley's going to struggle and I it. It might be my own insecurity because I was a guy who has one foot in one for doubt compete sound like most people can but then you daniel like those news guys who are doing it at the highest level doing all of a sudden. It's like well no Brennan. That's not true because if you think about it is is the concept of Renaissance Man Right the renaissance man was somebody. Today's did a lot of things but did nothing great yes. That was his ass one person yeah. We're taking our mindset of sitting on. I guess what you're really doing. This guy gave gave you a gift to do television to ten comedy to be a fighter to be an athlete here and you've made a choice that I'm only going to focus on athletics because everybody else's put me in the box. How can you tell me that I can't rap about being in the ghetto or being homeless of being a gangs or being shot at or being in the club being? VIP are being Richard. Being broke broke these all this is an expression so music did for me if provided an outlet because fighting is not what people think it is. I'm a fighter fighter because that's what I'm contracted to do but I'm really an entrepreneur father. I'm a friend that's when I'm more three hundred sixty two days as year and other three days I'll be somebody as you're fighting such essential part manage avoidance Joe taxing on your mind you fighting the wars behind find the scenes the wars behind the scenes sometimes the more exhausted than actual fight so when I found music music family have you WanNa say it gave me an outlet why can be my own filter so I can talk about things that are very long time ago that this version of time and then she got his own notes that I buried for years and years and to degrade guy on different person the guys sent me to try and I did a show called pneumonia and I took my I took my mind to Hawaii and I was back in in the keys and I was with my homies and I was schilling and fit it as small moment. He gave me that escape so what I wanted to train the next day I walked Labasa my step and I got swag. Look Fresher so for me. It's twenty only four hours in a day willing to train at most what six hours if that's alive and I'm just giving the lie. I'm more on the conservative side say I get into ninety minutes to get my shit. I'm out yeah so say we six hours. Say we sleep for eight hours. We still got a lot of contaminant worry. If you WANNA go play for nine call of duty. If you WANNA go sleep. If you WANNA go oh sliding people's dams. That's what she used to do. I up but I usually do a my extra hours is I'm. I'm planting season aground. I'm watering sees stepping out of my bubble. In two thousand eighteen said I won't be in a fucker boxing more so I started doing stand up comedy. I started doing more TVs of I walked with Warner Lawful taback back in Costa. I've been working on for a year and a half did as musician you just wanted to ruth and I found out fuck. I'm insane songwriter and I get the concept and I get the picture in every time I write a song I write if to be performed a writer to be video and I think the illustration at how animated or I can make your real so I'm like if this is something that's obviously come to me natural into something. I'm good at something Ed whether it's wiz Khalifa for breakfast these people see the talent there why would I I wanNA give you one hundred percent with you. And don't you feel like you know you get validated being around those people because if you never met those people toys like I'm a fighter. What am hi doing because you've had the opportunity to meet these guys who are super successful game and like nominee you could do it real shit though like my shit wack? I want you to tell me as why give it. If it's fair you know the defense allows you know what they would. Their preference is some people may be heavy metal fans so they. They don't look okay sure they don't look at your music. As this is an artist and art. This is an athlete try music so they immediately ready to criticize own insureds church the same thing with me with me with standup fighter ninety doing standup wall no you you're the one that put me in the bubble of you're an artist. I'm yeah I've always he's wanted to but you have this member of me over here grew. I stopped doing that a long time. I've been over here the thing I'm no right now working on a project and I'm I'm getting artists. They just happened to be athletes as well so I'm doing a track here soon with Damian Lillard mom from the rockets this boxer named show on showtime at a Houston Texas extremely animated but he can rap as well and chats Hamas who is played for the Cleveland Browns the University of Miami make him BS at at the same time here. We're soliciting him as well to produce entire deal and also featuring to do so now it's kind of the concept they uninterrupted have more than athletes without using a slogan logan but it gives us the opportunity to showcase you go to Oakland to see where Lillard front go to Miami and Bevis and show them the content show us in the studio cooking enough show us. You're listening to be coming up with ideas making the hook redoing it over and over again now is going to give the credibility so now when people listen to it they respect you as an artist and they they give you an opportunity with open ears and Louis Dugan scored thirty points but he's good at this day but every toon device up bonds you may be in my opinion. He may be in the top twenty five right now people. I'm currently listened to. He's a beast but I think it's don't when he finds something like that like the other night as is at the Improv and Blake Griffin was there running his spot for Comedy Central's The roast Alec Baldwin and I don't know Blake that well at all we've crossed paths a few times anyone's like dude. He's pretty funny even with my back. I'm like well. He's playing basketball. Did you can't be that good and I see like oh I saw him. Quotas laws laws were Kevin Hart and he showed personality there in this our job to choose if we're going to really step up and say fuck with people saying you gotTa Adiga because you have to break the mold because back in the day it was he's a football player. That's all he can have but now until nineteen thousand twenty with technology with with the access to everybody different labels for you or different comedy clubs for me like there's so much more you can do that base for sure your brother I decided to do my own narrative because the UFC countdown you'll see embedded in the roads octagon became very stock so she see as you see on on the fucking turf everybody's doing everybody's pushing the slit whether it's one twenty five pound female fighter or heavyweight male fight all OUGHTA steam sausage and I saw the show people hey hey. I got massive today and as Jim by sage that's real life. Hey I didn't feel like running now. I gotTa do it tomorrow. Hey I'm cutting weight. I fuck in. I don't know if I'm GONNA make it. People need to see the real she I don't need some protein. Shake taking fourteen ALFALFA's probably give up but also if you leave it to the countdown embedded whatever their series is now if you leave that got to paint your narrative as a fighter anyone listening. UFC fighter boxer if you leave it up to your boss for management to paint your native you're insane Saint Yeah. Sometimes it works out well but it's the role of the dice you can control. It is what I'm saying. I think some guys are some guys are learning from what you did. You'd call don't call you shake Sham Cam dope because as of two weeks ago that they might trade Marceau is it. It's GONNA be volt. Eight is too similar that loose man loss ah you're talking about. It not really tell me if I'm off on this when I watched a willy's not there tonight that's not my body was. You probably was not like you. It was there I think what happened. Was You know when I came to octagon. I do stop right. I get enough this my house. I piss on a fire hydrant. I stopped my spirit left my body and my my shell was just there but it's never happened before he time there was one other time happened. You actually there when I fought worry McDonald. Oh yes very same thing that's a great light. It was like I wanted to punch but I didn't fly in and I was like all right. You know there's GonNa come at you going to press you over rescue when he come forward hit them off and put one to even if you only hit them they don't feel powerless interfere speed you know you mean business so we turned up gloves. I felt great and the warm up Phil Graham Walkout. Everything's good business. I mean excuse campus camp so we we get in there but I'm GonNa do my thing anyway. I've been in a million times injuries and channel Shit so he walked four Guas art theory come here come in his mouth and he's right when he walked to me he got within prejudices of the camera and I felt a battery pack my bags and they never came on and it was like I was having conversations with God. I'm like am I losing to this is about to take my belt and my lose my losing my bill tonight. It's like I'm having this random conversation and to be honest. I don't remember the fight yeah thought remember is one time he grabbed me on like this month long enough and jake down and he picked me up a cake cabal then all right this album O- shady elbow. Let me grab it was just like the most elementary isn't it. It's it's strange in unless you've been in there like there's there's times when I was in there. I'm having I'm even thinking about the fight. They haven't out of almost body conversation I had was like what are we Ludi. Sometimes it's good though because sometimes like when I fought till I wash this year. I'll watch them better than I'm you may see me south volume. I see me doing spinning back. Fish it out never do but I watched his ship he kept when you cutting weight. You go back to your bread and butter. He kept doing upper-crust straight right up because straight great pass and I watched times say he's GonNa try to catch me coming in and lift me up and then push me back so I kept fainting fainting in the second his hand did like this in in my mind is slow motion so it was fast life but in my mind I see the into slowest fucking bunch ever built and I punish rush off line and we have been working on my coach more meaning knock somebody out with a left-foot. You say you always knocking people out with the right so when you look at the punch I fade back punch off line but I'm coming with this. This was supposed to come out this point. She's the one that just sat down so it's time to worry. That's a great thing out of body. The US is zoo zero Dan but like some other times like I had three fights like that when when I watched if I was just in your face I I remember there's a time on when you're against the cage yes and he's on top and I see you're out there man. I scratched out of that picture. That's the only I've never watched a fight because because you don't need to it's not me finding is not like I was finding it my best and now I have to go back and fix something I was just out there and to be honest if it was me and I looked like that against me out of knocked me the fuck out. There's no way I would have made it five and I'm not taking away from moves. He say focus. He was whatever you needed to do he did it it. It went out there and fought against one of the greatest of all time novel. He went out star performed his ass. I can never take that front and it doesn't matter if I was on my best tonight he was on his behalf but you could it was so strange to see that man and it was like a constant where I had to step back and I was like I've been doing this year for so long. So many you know movies TV shows broadcast hosting shared music training entrepreneurs and I add things off but I think people want to hear me say that I wasn't folk. Incorrect was so focused on music album because that's the that's these but but in reality had knocked him out out have been a boss when I knocked out there until I drop beat show astronaut gene type but I didn't do anything more against that I did. His tail is just something that happened. I haven't really been able to put a thumb on and I had to get to the pariah dealt with that and then I went through the depression question. I didn't want to train because me going to the gym I would have had to face a and what I did randomly two days ago. I didn't have no workout clothes random and I'm like FUCK DOC and I'll go into my office my gym Parashar Sir is fucking fought loosening and I'm like do I. I put these fucking shorts on. Do I NOT DO I. I've never trained in a pair of work. I show I mean fight shots. Ever every single Pfizer as I've ever had is framed got by having that they're very sacred to me win win loss they all a part of the story but I grabbed those showers and on my way. La Through my bag and say you gotta deal with this you gotta fill me and I. I say you know what I gotTa. Put Respecting your name. I said no matter what happened to me. You beat me so I have to call you champ. I have to give you a respect because because to get to that point is not even about winning. You got to get to that point. We all know how hard it is just to get a special. You gotta face somebody for the first time I was promoted as a champion. I believe how this is the first time in my opinion I got the respect for at least from a production standpoint what it looked like I was fucking champion or the favorite and and with all that and we're just watching me like on paper is nothing he can be me on paper. No so badly went out. There guy beat that guess yes so we're now back training anyway stuff going on but back training I hit I hit a switch. She got so point like I told you I had a little crazy demand fat hanging over the side and I looked at my fucking champion look like and I and I say I made a conscious effort to change. I saw going beast small and out. I'm assuming you lost that fight so out of shape well. I'm assuming you there's a bit of depression. There you go back home. You have four kids in life that has got to get a hug on your kids number one and number two you gotta just really take yourself out of and I was really just to myself. I kinda bought it for a little bit and I was just chilling chilling out by myself going around what did amazing amazing performance but it's almost it. It helped me from this off on this. It's almost a bit of relief because that wasn't the best ever seen so. It's almost like I lost but it's not like if let's say you bought your game. He brought his game and you get beat. He just knocked doc tanner. Go back to the table now. I gotTA watch very different. Gay cannot now anytime different games. Look at a copy that it's probably the result of that fight ten times out of ten yeah. I Love Dustin. Doesn't you know this I love him. Style is key matchups is just not there. You know it's not the case with this has never been easy and I was. I was like man. I got this album coming on my album his hand. I'm excited about it. I get this release party after party and I couldn't even think about the fight all I was thinking about leading up to the way as and everything is like fuck I gotTa Make Way Waco was fucking pain ass. You've been doing it forever. There and I'm like and like the fighting me really excite me to the point. I want to beat the retain my belt and my mind it was done like like on paper. I felt like my toughest mashups across Conde Candid Robbie lawler the people that are behind me until Darren till was a nightmare Mashal for me. That's why it took us a train one nine days straight straight no break I left. UFC fight when when pseudo BJ out front row and they thought it was so cute to fuck me next to loose man next until he'll see me extra colby and I got mad I said I'm fucking WanNa leave so I hid them all because somebody come give me it took me to the back I went to Reebok. I said give me some workout clothes. Kim Give me some fucking workout clothes. They gave me workout clothes. I wanted to say you don't have a badge Samarium. No disrespect walk that there's nothing you can do to stop me no. You're you're doing your job now. You know I'm going to bash you saw Monto coaches and we're going to find a place to go workout so we find a place to go work out Washington fi on TV and at this time I think deejays invincible he's rematches. He loses and I got video this. You know one Champs Champ Camp Bill and I said I look at my course to you say if this motherfucker can lose his belt any of us. Can I said this kid's young. He's hungry. He's Hughes Power. He's hard to take down. He's hard to hit and he really believes he can be he really is going to come out and try to be. He's not just talking. He was really about that action at that point in time not said if I think about easing up if I think about going like you stay on my ass you don't care if I'm dying you. Stay on me. We train twenty. We we put it on our calendar. It was suppressed eight. We had you not depressed or you got to fight piece. I knew that data early I train when he one day straight no break until that date. I took their whole day off. Wrestling body massage then went right back into training against because I knew he was coming for me and I knew I needed to make an example out of everybody that I'm older are he's younger. I'm doing music. He's not even fucking Pan for child support and all he doing this thing about me and he's Conor McGregor and you also have to go to liberty. I saw this I saw the ship building up and I'm like you know what he's GonNa. Get that ass and he did work so what now now now on the redemption redemption is meaning meaning another fight with because Kobe company and fight kind of fell through yeah I mean I don't know where I fit. Kobe's he's a fucking idiot. He had a D. Like I know obviously he's with was within Olympia so he had a deal on my fuck. I'm surprised I gave him that. Do He's never proved that he can be draw. He's never had a pay per view come in and said because become too was on his car and the bushy. Did this caused us to go up to six hundred thousand vice. He has no analytics on that so he thinks he bala shock collar goes in to say no. I want basically three times comes at a mountain top and pay per view. No no bill. Don't you wish you on the meeting because you're not meeting to let her finish her. Chances the fuck I'm off. That's what they did. They did literally colby hurry that that's what they do who I mean unless you connor if you think about nobody like you. You can't overshoot show value in his ignorance. His part thing about me. Is I know the rate and market value like no other fighter. I want to at this hour talking about that. I'll think especially gravy like a mall for Pretty Nice is like instagram talking about how Kobe's doing he overshot his low shot his load. Most most fighters do entertain. Everyone thinks are worth more than what they're being paid. Everybody yeah everybody does but with would you see it's kind of it's kind of black and white. I didn't think you were being marketed correctly. I didn't think you were getting respect. They should have got for a long long time for a number of reasons uses and then you kind of have this tiff with the AFC right like your fights with wonderboy and it depends how you look at it because it was it it is a work of art like the match ups and the way you're able to control the distance and land those big shots and you know you had that dilemma with that but you you kind of have this tiff with. You'll see and I again correct me if I'm wrong you said if you could do it all over again you would have put the energy into kind of battling in the beef is this is the thing you know and before you go on I I was having a tiff with them. When I was fighting and good friend of mutual friend of ours really good friend of Mine Rashad Evans it calls me because Brandon? I know what you're doing. Don't do it now. What do you me your trust me? Wait till you the retired or when you're out of the game and you because you're only we can start as far as what you're doing and other career. Don't I'm telling you it's going to exhaust you in. You're not GONNA win win. This about I mean recited homie the same thing and an thing about it is I've always been a manager center for what I believe you know right is right and wrong is wrong. I don't come from and people get to the point where they worship Dane on their worship. You'll see I always knew I was going to be a world champion. I would have never started this hard sport that demand all my time and energy my body not to be a world champion told certain things that I feel like on principle values were wrong. I wanted to speak out on the not so much myself because I was maneuvering around. No matter what was happening is still wasn't preventing me from winning because you can do whatever you want to. You can set the deck and shuffling however you want when you fuck across the octagon from me. He got beat me and most fighters are not going to be able to do it. So what I recognize is and this is real reason. I'm not trying to act like I had this. Excuse me a pair of knee at that moment but has of late like the last two months I recognize this platform is not mind. This is a UFC's platform they they have allowed me to showcase is my skills and they have allowed me to show that I'm the best in the world and his way class. That's not that's a luxury. They don't have to do that. I remember when I used to fight for five hundred I fought three years for free just ticket sales and to be able to go out there and make a nice living in fighting we take for granted because we see what other people are getting and we started going. This is what I autism so comparing and the thing is we all got a different deck of cards and I recognize that even if it was right there's different ways that I can show what I'm saying without saying it is it was times I got that a dare until fi widened say noted guys like you guys like Luke. Thomas guys like Area WanNa guys like five six seven other people they even had different peas about me before then Oh hold on hold that kind of got over on us so I didn't have to speak and I think thank you don't speak and when I'm silent. I'm quiet. I say when I'm quiet. I'm cooking. That's dangerous. You don't hear me that means. I'm fucking crazy and that's what I wanted to focus more on because at the end of the day like I said before it's not my platform blessed to be able to use the platform and could I go somewhere else and make a lot of money yeah but what I have the access in music film and other areas that is not the same way that comes with just getting older and just having different perspective but also also. I think one of the reasons why you became the greatest of all time is because you have that chip on your shoulder fueled in the gym to another level so I I for me when I was having my issues with the never nowhere near your level as far as success in the AFC but I felt cheated but it would give me this chip on my shoulder now regards to being successful in the AFC being successful outside yeah 'cause I was going to stack the deck again three. You're you're GonNa make me feel like this so it fueled this machine to keep doing this. Keep doing so it's normal for me. Yeah 'cause I was a kid yeah. I've always been is always look for this guy. I've always been a guy. That's been around the bubble. There's always been washed out for this guy and I'll always had the weight of my time to shine and then I just say well Mohammed Ali down on my while I wait. Why can't I be great like him? Why do I have to look up to him? Only why can't I just become the inspiration for another kid. Why can't I do that and I made a conscious effort to change my thoughts who just being the world champion to be the greatest of all talk and not just fighting choice? You can do it in any form of art doing well. There's doing paint and sit on the freaking. You know canvas whether it's finding whether it's music where there's right and stuff are producing now so all of these different things or just life experience combined together and one thing I found out is tell me the time I I got into it with Dana. I yelled he saw my way he changed and what I wanted them to do. Never happen that way so when you start thinking compounding millions the followers and people that are going to back everything you say everything anybody say this that's on there but they will call border experts. They're we're going to jump on that so I can yell and scream and you might hear for five seconds but eventually it's GonNa get crushed. It's a waste of NFL more dramas going to happen. Some more important news is going to happen connors. I was going to fucking punch your old man and what I did risking my relationship with the you'll see making it difficult to dylan negotiation did she so I say you know what I'm we're just GONNA fight and you probably feel you probably happier ms a lot of energy fighting here. Mandela hasn't phases. We've been in these other face. We've had some fucking altercations but I'm I'm just a man like if I follow up and I'm wrong. I'm GonNa say I was wrong. And this time I was wrong and I had to go until the data. You know what I was wrong. I was wrong in the situation. That was my position to do that army and I that that's one of the reasons I feel free after you lost who swing because I went man because of his history with with breasts up like that we know it's tough as it it is when you lose a fight especially at welterweight. It's so stacked so you're GONNA get go back to the q the two of the savages but for you I went this can be even harder. Now can even harder thing. I've felt so bad because you didn't show up be like man. They're going to make it tough supporter story when you think of guys just share with you like in high school was always my friend Travis in in college. There's always Scott Barker. You intervene Ashton I was I was always that guy in the gym and I was always the one that work hard. I was always the most skill but I was always with somebody else getting a push and then we'll get into favoritism and I've dealt with that for so long so when I was walking Lucent I should have known this ain't normal for me to shift feel feel weird like they promoted me like a champ for room. I should've knew it was too good to be true. When I lost like the redemption story is my legacy me coming back and saying that thirty seven Museau I gotta show you guys feel that got? You gotTA show you down still the best in the world. I gotTA show you that their fight. We know that wasn't me. I mean anybody who's watching me. Shadow boxing. I can say there was entire so but now I gotta go back. I'm not going to get an instant rematch like Hogar read for like you don't want to jake check like Rhonda who stepped away from a long time came back for two tumors later decided shot. Holly homes has been in multiple title shots one. That's just not my that's not my deck of cards. So knowledge is power. I know my deck so what you Dudek my dad. I'll have to fight Leon Leeann Leeann there was just trying to build his name and the and the gatekeeper to for somebody to build the name off I don't. I don't think you're a gatekeeper. I just I was just looking at this morning on Mike who who would. Let's say they don't give you through San Remo Kobe Bob Enough I. I'm all about it. Don't you think if Kobe newsmen are gonNA take fighting against each other. They my we'll see I mean also promising so right now. It doesn't right now so you might see Hubris. Colby might say fucked up but I agree with you and me he's a beast I covered. He's so he's so good. He's good. He's really sharp. He's agreeing. He's amazing. This is the problem John Edwards. He's so amazing however they especially in America I know a huge over in the UK but here a lot of people know who he is so selling the fight a and B. He's fucking good man. He's really really good. I mean. I don't mind that though somebody's really good I was really good. Surveys show me up to get ready to go so Leeann numbers his a fight that I was fighting him as champion. He came up. It'll be let's go. There's a young kid. He is always it was always the passing of the torch. I use to be Leon. There was tear I used to be but if I now it got to the point where I was. I I was a guy on the throne. I WANNA had two million red dots here. Everybody wanted to fight me. You know what I mean and I think if I- rematch what makes makes sense I think also a fiber Kobe makes his you made some other five hundred it makes sense but let's say Kobe knew swing. They they've come to agreement. They fight so they're out yeah. Who would be why Josh what do I need to fight? You'll have to wait and wash wait. I wait in Washington next asked to come out with the belt. I mean that's that's not I'm not saying that's what I'm going to do. but you have that luxury I mean I don't know if I have the luxury amuse luxury. You don't have to do anything I mean. There's so much going on financially. Actually I'll be okay the US's very much true but at the end of the day like you think you think Kinda McGregor's come back and have to work his way up to chain you think anybody using Joyce. NPR or or Biz meeting decided to come back in you have to start at the bottom and work his way through why shouldn't have to do that. I'll actually beat the number one contenders when they were the number contender. I was fighting super fight so I feel like that along. She put me in a position where I should be able to go in there and just prove it to you once again. I always wanted what is the UBER's. DSP We will you'll see a train here so yeah I. That's a fight that only one fighting fighting my life down my I gotTa have this fight. I know he's so good. He was so above this time he was so smart the way he's train a model train and after the way he trained I feel like a lot of guys he was such a pioneer sipped a blueprint for so many days. You can't say you the best and you know he living and you know no you around. You know he's still can't fight. Let's say him and kept at some super fight. You think could be the great fight shorts Joyce has a lot of his great balance Matt Hughes found out the Hallway. Johnny hitches even had a tough time. He took Johnny Down Foot. Both those guys just mentioned eight. No copied will be how long pop packages could be is a pressure fighter. That's going to take twenty hours a he'll need one or two to get the job done Joyce. Npr I think he's got a distance keeper. He has a long range and a long distance a great region great job. You can keep you off of the Risha vantage and I think he takes them down. I think he has more dangerous guard. There's so many guys but the name by the way takes you down. He likes you up. He occupies your upper body foot. Sweep your trip sheep therefore you have most of the time so you never really excuse me planning to somebody's guard no or is or most guys. It hasn't worked with anyone twenty eight those guys when they get down. They feel that the the create a base and give him his backpack which he just rides them ride. I WanNa thank could be also not that. He Never GonNa take me sixty five. I'll find I'll find medication wait. I think I was talking about this. Jim Funny Bring it up and I like I'm impressed with could be but I I see a lot of openings it really I see a lot of openness away fight for as far as the striking just thinking about this me you find invite right. Okay Okay your number. One thing is you got a great job and you got a great located Right Jab me. I'll make you hate me to forehead you. Break your left Dan you you throw your right kick checking you. Break your leg until you're able what are you going to do. His whole game is we're having to be able to take you down because you're supposed custody but he's the ultimate specialist. He's like your boy Oscar like they're such special special. He's special at getting to that by all means necessary. He would get you to the ground. His whole is striking has revolved around Clinton on everything he does is revolved around game should have ground correct what happens when he can't get you to the ground who has not gotten to the ground. Though I I mean I think I got the highest Iq Down on defense issues of sport. Oh you're saying if you and him but if he's not gonna be taking me down with the city to import yeah he's other people who have our time. It's commuting when he's four lately to your point if he can't take you down and he's forced engage enforcement or he takes you down in this. That's the only way you're going to beat them. But that's the you gotta you gotTA punish them. It's like this if I recovering grab someone out of your fucking play and you know slap my hand. There's nothing that's going to stop me reaching about Q. V. Sake into shine and people were so happy why he didn't get that one on the fuck he come and ten times kit and you stuff is take down you grab his neck you punch behind Kehinde punishment body heat up you push them around Platfo book. Take his ass now like you got to pressure him. You got a personal home with low low stands low level over strikes. You got to be ready to knee. You can't see him which we're knee. I'm not gonNA give them a whole game plan would but his ways you can fight him. beat him. This people that have had moments Michelson Austin a strong and big enough and powerful enough to deal with could be well. He has his moments far rock and he has some those moments but when it came down to just the grady Crinan part of the heat don't possess Edson Barboza don't possess a takedown defense and broke I mean he he took a beating from Harrison. Might Ferguson embrace this ferguson quote your boy. DC Ferguson has in my opinion one of the best chances to do well against him because he grow fucking offensive from his back. Yes it may not be a bad idea to get taken down by embracing tatum. Yeah I the racing early. You don't WanNa sweaty though could be doesn't have a huge neck so you've been able to get all these different. Mos on him is not that great so if I was it's fucking Tony. Walk could be down which is try to up. Kobe takes you down embrace. It go grind his as don't try Jim back. They don't give them your back which him persona he's in. I think Unorthodox gives could be problems just and then like the thing that I see about could be granted Cabeza fucking savage here people think because we're discussing like this if if you just talk about how great Kabibi even the the the the reason why I discussed even how to beat them because it's a Rubik's cube. No one has figuring out and that's a fan I'm not I don't hate to career fire. I think he's to me the best one fifty five around the planet him in Tony Fighting will determine that so the reason why always talk about how is it could be deep because no one's done it not even Colo is easy for me to sit here and say that hundreds is how do you train somebody that can produce. I have a pressure that could be done and also they can think that could be because could be may go for a body lock. Go to maybe go to this. They don't know his second and third attack like we've known as change so even if they come and do what they saw octagon. He may only be on level one because nobody can stop it. Will you and they have a second level that we don't know about. How can you train apartments mimic? They can't get your boy in fighting Abu Dhabi when he gets taken down on the cigarette and you see him look at the corner of course. I look look Mike fighting ago. He's doing got anything because what we trained for the past twelve weeks that should work in just like what anyone and the coach like get up up. I don't know we'll have we. We don't know man. You can't train and that's why I like my squad man. I got a credit team. Dean Thomas do group is around Ben Aspirin. They all minds are so beautiful was so different and they can do this striking coaches and most. MMA does have a huge ego and they came work together correct. I brought Raymond Daniels in a camper. Cutting camp had different coaches in the Camp Erica's swollen here from from wildcard here flown Milwaukee Dean does the same thing so that their our goal is for me to be the best. Give me the Best Opportunity Duke said I'm not your striking coach. You're winning coach. Choke is don't drop in NEOM UNIPHASE uniphase elbow to make me feel good beat his ass win and dominate your boy been asking who huge fan of so glazing. USC I'll see the Mazda doll fight Komo Shit hop me. I fucked me should happen while all kind of you know from the same cancer train Mazar Alpha so many years you've been so quiet for so long as you know his speech. I have nice speaking to see though he's speaking a little bit more. He's talking having more fun than people I've always saw him as a character like when we do do a series called fireworks we did what we've always talked about Maswadeh since the beginning before he was a welterweight are like the only game it's like but I like the Nate Diaz and respect where there's so much respect for him. Is You know he's just been grind. You can't make it through the special as you can't make it through the freestyle style fighters you can't make it through to use Sada and still be at the top unless you G he's been around through bare knuckle fucking kimball slides days Bohdan Bohdan Latour strikeforce and now he's at a position where he can the biggest payday of his Co.. G But with Ben asking he's GonNa Fight Damian my I you know again. I think been astor's another guy's name in my own agree. I think Changshu Jake Shields kind of wrote the book on how to you gotta get David Meyer to the Matt yes in his. You can't be in this half court but you gotta get them to man. You got to pressure him because if you allow him to do it to you you he's long he static he can hang. If you get your back his card game well again shake. She'll so they just got to tell you I think they're if is going to go out of the day and a lot of people oh my God you're knocked Al but might do. MD So is he in Moscow so is the metro pcs so is he. We did a whole today shoe just me Mazar doll in to rally 'cause Riva's flicking us in a fucking air fucking forty feet up and a hundred feet across yeah so I have this is work like I'm not going to be mean to him because he's not being now. I'M NOT GONNA be celebrating Senate. I'm glad it happened to my friend but you respect yea. Mazda has worked his ass off and then it's nothing it's been asking like Benneton got out grappled for twenty five minutes here with the fastest ship we've ever seen any it was insane but Ben Ben. You know that doesn't go like that. Ninety nine times one hundred is still one time and when I was when I was I was doing a shoe with him. It was at with doing it on TV. Shoot him and then was there was about to start talking about been said well. Let me tell you something. That's my guy doing even better clothes. I WANNA talk about being proactive but I'm not gonNA stare. I'm not going to be a accessory conversation. I'm like you know that's my guy. So have you got something negative. Say I'm just going to step over here because you guys are due to have your own opinion for whatever reasons but I'm not going to see her less. Listen to you talk about and I walked away finish. I'm we finished the shoe respect. Yeah I think Ben's great career and then not talk to being after that because a lot of people are making a lot of buzz about on the Internet I made sure he was was called because Ben has helped me. I went to Milwaukee basically because ben asked me to come. Anthony Pettus asked me to come to do and Duke. Luke roof is half produce. Basically the Rubik's cube to beating southpaws for more fast brother was southbound. He learned how to beat it so well. That's what took me author two thousand fifteen do the math are Robbie Wonderboy wonderboy Damian Maya Kelvin gasoline tear into all these guys and even beyond them Kobe Covington was how far the house all the way to the top guys are pretty much southpaw outside of me and use wish useless wishes Richard so so it made sense and then just the intimate setting of Milwaukee no bells and whistles you train your fucking asshole in a small group of guys but they vary very elite group of guys. It was a no-brainer so yeah I refer all you guys had a call ban because being helped me you know help me be fucking gasoline be fun. It's so easy to gang up on. I and I'll see does this social media stuff where it's if you're gonNA throw shade like he does be the Funk master people are going to climb on top you but he does five Rolls Damian amy my up at Johns. I can't get enough man asking you for a while to come on this and you know she was dope too by the way just standup show. Thanks man was car. Wash wash me thing twice so good. I watched it twice. I'll take

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The 2018 Helwani Nose Awards

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The 2018 Helwani Nose Awards

"Hey, everyone. It's your old friend area. Hawan? I can't thank you enough for joining me on New Year's Eve. And boy did you make the right choice. We're going to be counting down to the new UFC on ESPN era that starts at midnight tonight. But also looking back at two thousand eighteen we're giving out awards of special guest. It's going to be a great time. Let's do this. Days and gentlemen. Welcome to. Wani's? Am. Back in your life on this Monday, December thirty first two thousand eighteen HOGAN, everyone, I'm Mary a Hawaii welcome to the program. I've been doing the show my friends for nine and a half years nine and a half years. We started in a broom closet if you would've told me back then June of two thousand nine that. I'd be right here on ESPN two ringing in the new year and also ringing in an ushering in the new UFC on ESPN era, which commences at midnight. I would have said you're crazy. But I have to say this is a massive honour. We were gonna have so much fun for the next hour. Please sit back, relax. Grab your loved ones. Maybe a blanket or two and just enjoy the show because two thousand eighteen has been a crazy year in the world of mixed. Martial arts, amazing, knockouts and finishes and fights drama storylines, all kinds of stuff. So we are going to give out today on the program nine team. Eighteen awards. Yes. It is the most robust award show in all sports. It doesn't get any bigger than this nineteen hell Wani knows awards. It's the two thousand eighteen hell Wani knows award show. We're giving out knock out of the year submission of the year. Fight of the year round of the year fighter of the year for males and females. But also, we've got some fun once like poster of the year promo of the year rivalry of the year, a personal favorite of mine. Feel good moment of the year. I mean, the list goes on and on is going to be so much fun. But like I said we are also going to be counting down to midnight. Because when the clock strikes twelve the brand new the highly anticipated. Much-awaited UFC on ESPN era. Commences it's going to be fantastic. We're going to have the two men who are headlining the very first you have ESPN plus show on January eighteenth Brooklyn, New York, Barclays center TJ dillashaw, Henry Suharto, they'll be joining us at the same time and throughout the program as well. We're going to be hearing from the majority of our winners, some live some taped it's going to be great. And what I love so much about this particular year as I probably should take off my glasses. Now. Taking them off putting them right here. But I think I'm going to be in the back later on what it looks so much about this year. My friends is that there are some years where let's be honest, the Pixar kind of no brainers. This was a tough one. I had a lot of hard choices to make. I had. I mean, honestly there we're probably like two or three no brainers the rest were tough. And so with that in mind, let's kick things off with maybe the hardest one of the mall the hardest of the nineteen. Submission of the year. Because there were some great ones mission of the year two thousand eighteen seconds. Jordan. Kill again. Try for it. Ezekiel choke finish graph the whole that like man he does it with perfect technique. He's so good. Roles. He's got his legs. Perfect -sition. He turns the he'll and it's just nasty. Trying to take down Jacobson with four now are. Jay. Where arts is my favorite sport of plant. Sued. I mean, a lot of great ones. But guess what? None of those actually one. Let me tell you about the night back in September of this past year. Great state of Texas Dallas to be exact it was UFC two twenty eight. And we're there in my opinion. It was one of the great nights of the year. We'll be talking about that event later on as well. But one interesting thing happened during the prelims Alger means sterling the man who looks to call himself, the funk master pulled off an amazing submission against Cody statement this God is back. He's got the figure for a look at that. He goes for the leg. That's called a pseudo web stretch by friends and up until this point. It had only been done one time before Tenny Robertson Brock jar dean that was just the second time in US history that someone pulled off that maneuver and look at it the hamstring just pops the knee parts, it is incredibly painful, and it's named after a man named Amar it, by the way, lost my friend shelf son Faso's out. That's a great one. Guess what? Now, we're later literally an hour later. Zubi the dream the beat muzzle med Shari. Pau pulled off the same submission again up until that point. It had only been done one time before in the twenty five year history of y'all to twenty championship and back in September. At you see to twenty eight in Dallas, Texas. Two men pulled it off with an hour of each other zip beat Michael HR, pops omitting Brandon Davis with a very similar maneuver. Right. You just saw it look at that technique a little different. But for the most part that's the sewer web stretch just the third and you have see history. So we will start today's program my friends with history, we have never given out. I've been doing this award show for many years. We've never given out a co-winner to to different individuals were doing that right off the top submission of the year winner. Alginates sterling ends of muggle made Shari pob you both get it because you pulled off the same very very rare move within an hour of each other. It was too hard to pick just one it didn't seem fair. So I gave it to both. Let's hear from the two winners. Guys, you hear the news. I was selected as the winner of the twenty eight so much of the inter guess what? What coming strove twenty nine thousand nine hundred new years to get the crown kit the strap the unit backpack. Huma gist, what still kind of the human whatever you want. Thank you guys on the winner. Silence ideal in the show for the base of the series. All right. So there you see Jemaine sterling's of beat muggle made Sherry pub. I've never done it before I feel very strongly that there shouldn't be too winners. But in this case it had to be done, and guess what? Both individuals are on deck. They've got fights ready signed for twenty nineteen algebra sterling reading Jimmy Rivera on February seventeenth beat muggle Shari pof- fighting Jeremy Stevens on March second to huge fights for both individuals looking forward to seeing what they do next. All right. We got plenty more to come my friends. Eighteen more awards. We're going to hear from the headliners on the very first UFC on ESPN cart. It is a great night to just be an EMMY fence, sit back and relax. We've got so much more fun slated for all of you. Do not go anywhere. The show continues. Happy new year everyone. I love you. Welcome back to the show my friends. I hope you're joining your New Year's Eve, I still can't believe they let me do this. This is unbelievable. This is surreal stuck. This is a dream. Come true. I'm so honored to be here. We're having so much fun. We just gave out these emission of the year ward. Now, we turn our attention. My friends to knock out of the year who doesn't like a great knockout. Right. Everyone loves that. You always kind of wish that fight ends in a knockout secretly deep down. Perhaps. Maybe you're one of those anyhow so many great knockouts here. Here's a closer look at what we saw. Picks. There was an elbow. Oh my God. Oh my God. What algal Riga football angle guys? I don't mean to dismiss anything. You're just did. Because that is on the believable. While I was all at the buzzer. Wow. The book. Two. For the two shakes under sin sold back in two thousand eleven. Liotta shrank in. But she is. Favorite part of that? She did not by the way the way he stands over Belfort afterwards. Unbelievable stuff. Three great choices, some more that have to mention the news just knocking out. Chris cyborg first time in cyborgs career that she's knocked out your marrow's knock out of Luke Rockall back in February. Of course, Marlin had KO gets Jamir very June, and who could forget Nico price with the Hammerfest kale from his back against Randy Brown, all very good choices, but we had to go with the first one that you saw historic in many respects the latest knockout in UFC history. Four fifty nine of the fifth round on the twenty fifth anniversary show just a couple of months ago year. Rigas losing the fight Bates Koreans ambi- into rushing him with ten seconds left, and then he knocks him out with the upwards elbow. I can't see enough of that knockout one of the greatest knockouts not only this year, the greatest arguably the greatest of all. Time in the history of the sport. Plenty more awards to come can't wait to see. What's next? It's always fun when it's live. My friends will be back right after this. Moment that I got signed vows. The best mother for two thousand eighteen getting engaged is one of the better moments. Get through through this fight. My favorite pot of twenty thousand was probably making Europe CD. Welcome back to the program. I hope you are enjoying your New Year's Eve. Thank you. So very much for joining us on this New Year's Eve twenty eight teen as we look back at the year that wasn't mixed martial arts. And of course, look ahead to the new ESPN era. If you're one of those people who has been watching the show for nine and a half years, you know, that technical difficulties are staple of the program. So we apologize for not hearing your has. But rest assured he was there and he did win or knock out of the year ward. So thank you very much to him. We shall talk them in the future. Now, one of the fun parts of these word shows, in my opinion, one of the awards is rounded the year because it's very easy to give someone fight of the year. Two very easy to give a fight of the around a singular round that lives in a vacuum. That's tough because you have to really comb through all the footage all the data. This was a really hard one. My friends. Let's take a closer look at some of the rounds of twenty eighteen. Man was appropriate years before going the distance of the first team. Next there. The jazz big beautiful right hand. But it's right over the top the gem. Beautiful conducted. And then he's kicking your late twenties which stance. Exist. We just. See what I mean all super tough ones. But in the end, I went with steep Amyot ch- versus Francis and gun who back in January of this past year, you have to twenty and yes, I know this might be controversial. In fact, our entire production team disagrees with me, and I feel very very strongly so strongly about this one. I can't even tell you. I will tell you look those were great rounds. And by the way, there are many more. There's a ton that you choose from. I had to whittled down to three those three that I chose. But in the end, I went with Francis and gun new versus TBO church. I understand here. We are December thirty first you think back to that. It's so long ago, it's essentially year on your say like what go back to that night in Boston. Go back to the energy go back to the tension. Go back to Francis. Got new knocking out what he did in Detroit a month and a half prior. Remember the way over his head cocked back. From the knockout, everyone thought one punch and Ghana would knock out Steve Yokich, and he would do it. And he would decapitate them. Remember all the hype? All the buzz surrounding Francis and gun knockout power. So when that started I felt like I couldn't breathe I couldn't blink the tension at the TD garden. Boston was something. I've never felt before because it was two heavyweights in my opinion. It was the most interested heavyweight title fight since Cain and JD in two thousand eleven and when they stood toe to toe in the middle of the cage. Everyone thought one punch head is flying. Back didn't happen Indian he survived his best punches. And in the end. He ended up winning the fight via decision. And I know the last four rounds are, you know, not the best in EMMY history. Put a mildly and the flake slowdown consider considerably. But in this particular, first, round, go back and watch it. I watch the today just to remind myself because I was getting so much heat for this pick. It was incredible. The tension was unlike anything it was to behemoths it was the irresistible force meeting. The movable object wrestlemainia three back in the day. It was unbe. Eveb UIL and steep aid that his best to avoid all the big shots took some big shots gave his own. It was amazing stuff. So in the end, that's my round of the year. If you disagree. Well, that's what's fun about all this. Let's hear from Steve Roach. Trump cards per se, it's real honor best round here. He's lots. Shape. Love expect more around this year coming up since I was gonna say you. You guys again and enjoy your holidays. Of course, a ended up losing his title in July. But what a great night that was for him. What a great round that was we will be seeing the F or mention Francis and gun. Ooh. Back in action on February seventeenth, very first main card on ESPN, Phoenix, Arizona early prelims as you see on ESPN. Plus that we go to the premiums on ESPN. And then the headliner look at that fight Francis gun who gets the pride of Arizona. The former Zona state university superstar the former UFC heavyweight champion the man who has not fought since two hundred km Alaska's returning how does that play Francis? Got to force did not have a great summer ended up losing to their Louis, but then came back with vengeance. In Shanghai, November defeating Curtis blades. And now I'm looking forward to that. That's going to be great. All right. So that's rounded the year next up one of my face. Parts of MA the walkout. It's a loss. Start in a sense. I love it. There were some great ones not a ton of this year. But the ones that were great. They were great one of them. Hawaii just a couple of weeks ago Biltmore flyweight champion Lima lay McFarland the eliminator. Remember that moment big MA's return to Hawaii. She walked out. What a great book. She's crying. It was emotional. If you forgot here's a reminder. The greatest night and Bill tour history McFarland ends up winning in front of the partisan crowd. She is crying unbelievable moment, you'd think that was my winner. It wasn't. That's how good our winner is look at that moment. I'll tell you my winner right after the break nocco anywhere. Happy new year counting down baby. My favorite award one of them. I should say this one this is the winner. And he went Reisen thirteen she came out to smooth criminal by Michael Jackson. Look at those dance moves you can't beat that. We could hit by or. Yes. Maybe one of the greatest walkouts all time. Andy wind rising thirteen here. She is accepting Johnny knows the work. Thanks for having me. I'm honored to have won twenty eighteen of the year globally on rising thirteen a lot that to smooth criminal by Michael Jackson, had a really tough time this past summer. One of my best friends is getting hurt in the whole weekend was any are you? Okay. That was part of the lyric of that song end it worked out perfectly kind of like a tragedy, but beauty specis anyways. Thanks for having me. So I'll be honest. I picked that walkout because I thought it was phenomenal the dancing was incredible. She put a lot of thought into it. It's great in Japan. Saitama reminded me the pri- days, and then I spoke to her about the walkout, and of course, took on a whole other. Meaning as she said her teammate, Andrew Lee had a very tough year. Her husband Donny, Aaron accused of domestic violence, and he referred to her as any that's her nickname, and that was to support her friend. And so then the whole meaning and these significance and the symbolism of the walkout took on a completely different. Meaning for me. And so I appreciate it even more that she would do that on her way to a fight a big fight against Yamamoto that you would do that in support of her friend who was there flanking her down the ramp to the ring. So a beautiful moment. Thank you very much. Andy win great stuff and what dance moves. Holy smokes. That's moves that you probably would wanna break out on on New Year's Eve that was incredible stuff. And in a way, captures the essence of what makes Japanese anime. So great that they are able to do walkouts like that. So amazing choices predate it very much. Congratulations to anyway. Now, let's move along to crowd of the year and crowd is a very interesting one as well. I know a lot of crowds very proud of the way they support their stars. And the fight game and whatnot. There were three that came to mind to me in terms of finalists. Let us begin with one that we just talked about it at longtime coming for Hawaiian 'em may to have a big show Bila tour was the first to get their Bill to twelve to thirteen twenty plus Hawaiian fighters on those cards. What a scene was when Olympic Farland capped it off the win over. Valerie Latourelle look at that crowd flags. The love the shock shockers. The flower. It's all great. I loved it. So that's finalists number one finalists number two. And I'm not saying they're finalists because I am a proud Canadian. But if you were in attendance in Toronto in December, you know, how hot that crowd was power pound one of the best crowds in all of them. As to Ronco always shows up, regardless of the depth of the card main event, max hallway, Brian tak-, they were going back and forth with Teigen hallway chance they were phenomenal. They showed up for the ceremonial wains. What a great crowd. Toronto was. But they didn't win. Guess what? They didn't win crowd of the year kind of no brainer. In the end Liverpool. In the United Kingdom echo arena. They had been clamoring. They had been begging for the UFC to finally come to the echo Rena. They were waiting for the white guy to make it happen. Darren till made it happen. What a scene it was. Sweet caroline. Beautiful stuff. He fought. Stephen Thompson in the main event, I loved it so Liverpool you win my crowd of the year. I think it was somewhat of a no brainer. They were hot. They were ready. They were excited. They loved it. Amazing. Darren till I loved it. And by the way, great win for him in the crowd pop afterwards. And they were there for Molly McCann and as of right now the returning to London in March. Okay. What is next next? We are going to talk about feel good moment of the year. I have said in the past that this isn't your typical award. This isn't the kind of word that you usually see, but it's actually one of my favorites. Because I feel like a lot of times we focus, you know, on the on the punches kicks. And sometimes negatively this is a moment that I think we all will remember, it's one of my favorite winners of this particular war because of all the emotion involved. Let me tell you about a man named Matt Hughes. Hughes was one of the very best. You have. The best welterweight champion of all time. He was country. Void tough. He was as tough as they come his fight against Frank Trigg. And you're looking at it right here. Look that on the verge of being submitted somehow survived and somehow picks up Frank Trigg and walks across the cage, and then slams him and then submits him that's mad Hewson nutshell as tough as they come sadly, June of two thousand seventeen he was involved in a car accident. He was in his car, and he was hit by an oncoming train early on the reports were horrific. There was fear that he might not survive. And for a while. We didn't hear much about him. We didn't see much about him. It just kind of remained silent. We had heard that he was fighting. But we didn't know how much he would recover and then in January of this past year in Saint Louis, Missouri match Hughes return and he walked out. Out on his own. And it was one of the most emotional moments in the history of the here. This. There you see what? The. Two. Seem to. Oldest? Unbelievable moment. I get goosebumps watching it. It makes me emotional. Matt one of the very best fighters have compete to see him come back from that. And walk down was was nothing. Short of amazing. I was honored to speak to him ten months later on my show about his recovery. But everything has had to overcome just to be able to walk and talk. It was it was an emotional interview to conduct. Here's a quick snippet from back in October. How are you feeling right now? How would you describe how you're feeling I I'm many percent? My spouse isn't good best, but I can vivid that I don't fall. But I just. If someone pushed me, I could stumble easy have the doctors told you that you will improve more or or are they saying that this ninety percent is unbelievable considering what you've overcome is this. How good is that it's going to get for you. I just keep thinking I'm going to get better. One of my favorite moments from that interview is you know, you don't really know what you're going to get because I hadn't talked to them before. And at the very end he asked me what shoes I was wearing. I've been known to wear some colorful shoes. And then I knew that Matt Hughes was back in that. He will come back, and we continue to support him and pray for him and hope that he makes a full recovery. The entire M may community loves mad Hughes respects him and thanks for everything that he's done. We're all pulling for you met another fight that we all think that you're going to win. So all the best Semaj Hughes and thank you for that moment. Back in January Matthews pulled off some great upsets he has come back. I saw just now that moment against Frank Trigg reminds me to me one of the great turnarounds in MMA, and you see history. Let's talk about upsets now, some tough ones. There was a big one that happened this past weekend. There was another one that happened in August in the same city, Los Angeles to be exact you f c to twenty seven to meet you. Johnson goes into a fight against Henry pseudo a rematch of fight that he's coming off against the Huta where he beat him in half around. No, one thought pseudo could win the Olympic gold medalist DJ, the longest reigning champion, and you have history the winning his champion in UCSD. The only flyweight champion UCSD. This is going to be a walk in the park in L A. Right. Nope. But see. Everything just shocked the world. Wli again to over V knocked out the last full round years at come into Peten. Amanda myth alleged bout of my mental. For you to believe. What a moment there for Henry Suharto? The now reigning defending UFC flyway champion. Of course, he returns to action on January nineteenth on the very first. You have see on ESPN card against TJ Dilshad the bantamweight champion who's moving down to fight him for his flyway title. There's the card. That's when the UFC on ESPN era of fishery begins my friends, January nineteenth from Brooklyn Barclays center. Headliner Henry pseudo TJ Bill shot get ESPN plus right now, Donald Surani versus Alex Hernandez. Randy Brown versus chance on colts is the early pre limb quite on. Yes. PM? Plus just tremendous stuff all around kicking off on January nineteenth that was the upset of the year. My friends there was some great ones. But that one to me, and I know some people will say man, the Nunez over Chris cyborg. But to me. Pseudo coming back after losing the ninety seven just amazing stuff for him to do that. Unbelievable. Okay. This is interesting because not only in my opinion was that upset of the year. That was also a nominee for fight of the year. Could Henry Huda walk away with two words, but we will be talking to Henry who in a matter of moments and TJ dillashaw. But for now, let's see if he actually won fight of the year as well. Here we go. What do we got? Robert Whitaker versus y'all Romero finalists number two. Because those each is number one what back in June back and forth. They went unbelievable that Whitaker wobbly it fully they were throwing sledgehammers at each other. That was back in Chicago. This one was amazing this year in November Madison Square Garden, Chris wideman versus Jacques it felt like the place was fought in the phone booth. The entire fight it literally like they're going back and forth in the in the end jock wins the fight. That was amazing. I couldn't blink throughout the entire. But in the end, I go back to Robert Whitaker says you're all Romero too. I feel like people sleep on this one because Romero miss wait ever so slightly before the plate. How what go back and watch it. It was unbelievable. Romero knocked Whitaker down in the third. He knocked down in the fifth. He took him down in Vienne somehow Whitaker pulled it off. For the broken hand Romero broke his orbital bone hasn't fought since that was an amazing fight those one of the best middleweight fights that I've ever seen back and forth. Again, it fully throwing axes at each other credible. That's my of the year. And I love it and watch it again today, and I couldn't get enough. Let's hear first from you'll Romero morning dies is sort of got. I wanted to say everybody happy new year. I hopefully, anywhere everyone. How good time. I'm. I want to say for especially from my own my findings thinking for support my career. I'm very excited happy because God bless me. Got my my knife. I have a good time and enough. I those are the last about is the I hear is a this fight us. Defy of the year. I wanted to say thank you everyone for support my career. God bless you. See some Saudi ungodly hair just wanna say thank you so much for the award for fun of the year. It was a good fight as hard fight. And I'm glad it's being appreciated. Thank you. So there you have it rubber Whitaker you over Merrill. Trust me, go back and watch it. Unbelievable flight. Great job by Robert Whitaker for winning. And of course, we will see him back in action on February ninth in Australia in Melbourne to be exact against Kevin gasoline defending his middleweight title. Can't wait for that fight. All right. Plenty more awards to come my friends, and we've got some special guests coming. We've got a who toll and TJ dillashaw coming up together at the same time. Yes, they will be speaking to each other. We've got the male fighter of the year. We got the female fighter of the year. We've got a lot more poster of the year new one I've never done this before much more coming up. After the break. It's been a great year. My friends. I hope you're having a great New Year's Eve. I can't thank you for joining me on this evening. Buckle up much more to come. I love you all and happy new year to all of you wherever you may be much low. We back. Those awards for twenty eighteen continued look at our trophy. Thank you very much, MRs level woods for making us this amazing. I mean, look at this thing. This is incredible. The most prestigious awards at all sports mazing. All right, as you know, fighters are great, and they get it done in the octagon. But if you don't have a good team, and in particular, great coaches in your corner winning anything. And so now, we turn our attention to coach of the year, and my friends just the super tough super tough. And I'll tell you why first of all Mark Montoya what a year he had factory X amazing Macy Barbara over there. You see all the great fighters that he's corner jeans Krause, Anthony Smith, an amazing list of fighters. They had a great year and feel like he is overlooked and not talked about enough. He deserves. A finalist. Mention captain Eric our scene. No one has ever campaign for an award more than him and his team Henry Sughu toe. The pit bull brothers Paolo costs. The an amazing team, captain, Eric you're the man finalists, you deserve it. And of course, have your Mendez head coach of the American kickboxing academy his right hand, man, crazy Bob cook. Daniel cormier, the double Chen, Habib ner muggy made of Luke. Rocco? Jon Fitch, the list goes on and on one of the most story can't in all of mixed martial arts in India. And it was so tough to really was please don't hate me. But I went with heavier Mendez increasing cook because of the history of Daniel. Pour me made because of the fact that he came back from getting knocked out against John Jones because of with a made up did. And because of what the Ron win and Sean bunch and all the up and comers at did. Have your Mendez cook, congratulations? You are my coaches of the year. Let's hear from crazy, Bob. I. It's an honor to be the coach of the year with Javier Mendez for ESPN. We've worked at this for twenty years, you know, and produced a lot of great guys. But you know, the main credit means to go to the guys or the one in there. Doing the sacrifice working there this yell ADEMA bunch. But you know, it's it's definitely honor. And to have all the hard work. We've done over the years recognized probably Mendez, and I wanna thank PIN. ESPN voting myself in the coke as coaches the year two hundred this Lord, I wanna thank all my coaches for helping into into this great success for us where they go my fighters, especially DC and be for winning their titles, respectively seem to them a great honor to be involved with them and look forward to giving you more years. I think two thousand nineteen and be another big year for us. So watch outbreak gay might repeat again, I struggled with this one. It was a tough one really a lot of great choices and have to say about aka particular because in the end, I do feel comfortable with that pick. They have enjoyed an evolution over the years. You know back in the day. They were just like the kick boxers. Of course, then it was a lot of welterweight. And now they've turned into a really I think a an all around great team. I remember in two thousand nine when they had their little issue with the UFC and the entire team was banned. And I happen to. Be there and have your Mendez. Let me watch his t meeting, and he said, no one will break us will never break. We're gonna stick together where family, and we'll get through this, and we'll get over this. And it was kind of it was kind of breathtaking for me to be there to be honest to watch it. I really appreciate him allowing me to be in that close-door meeting so to speak, and they've really come a long way developing champions, like DC developing champions, like Habib remained off. And of course, back in the day. Luke rock hold and came Velazquez coming back. We'll deserve -gratulations. I have mentioned also four seven may save. So the head coach over there. He deserves a mention also gene behrman city kickboxing also deserves a mention for what he did with the likes of Israel out of Sonya. Den Hooker, all the great fighters coming out of New Zealand to me, the coaches are often overlooked in the sport, they should not be and really you can give it to many. I mean, you can you can split this award in many different ways in the end. Oh, I go with Daniel Cormie as head coach have your mentors. And of course, crazy buff criminals live on crazy. Bob's floor. His first year he told me that back in November used to sleep on his floor eating hamburgers. Every night. They have invested in a lot of fighters. They have done what they had to do to build these fighters champions. Congratulations to them. All right. Speaking of Habib near Mogomedov, he was certainly in the news all year long his feud with Kana McGregor who can forget Brooklyn, New York. We'll be talking about that one at length after the break. Happy new year. Look at those people all over the world. They are celebrating the very first Helwan knows M A award show on ESPN two. It's raining in New York and they're still celebrating. That's how it cited. These people are that we're actually doing an award show ESPN two mixed martial arts. It's amazing. We'll see after the break. Gregor in custody after surrendering authorities in New York Thursday night McGregor and others lost their collective minds after you have seen news conference or this. The most disgusting thing that has ever happened history company. Habib actually got into it with one of teammates art, Abobo earlier this week about retaliation just pill the win with and that's it. Put a lube of fighting. The woman show is gonna fake lobbying rack smash meet you send location from if you're not outside the snow. I always think fetal you'll grip Nick is gonna that's not who soupy. Ted nell. You'll be dead. Jim. We have been preparing for war going be smoke of toba six. The. Aw. Be here. From April in Brooklyn to Tober in Las Vegas. What a six month stretch their involving the authorities and the bus and the Dalai I mean unbelievable it culminates with two Twenty-nine Conor McGregor evening muggy made up. They dominated the headlines all year long in particular that six months stretch against starting in April in Brooklyn, then culminating in October at T mobile arena rivalry of the year story of the year event of the year all of those. I mean, those guys just I mean there were on our minds a lot and at times it got a little heavy at times. It got a little deep at times. It got a little uncomfortable. But they deserve. Speaking of deepen uncomfortable and heavy and all those things let me say Hello to my partner, my co-host for aerial the bad guy, which you can see every Wednesday on ESPN plus chill p look at us. How are you? Errol? I am so happy for you, look tastic. I love the glasses. Tell you. If you wanna adding other awards, the show for acceptance speech of the year without question goes to Al Joe my rights, those great I mean, he was excited to win. He was I appreciate that. And there are more to come. So I can't give that award out. Just yet. They're more to come. But shale after say so story of the year right to me up until I don't know December twenty second. It was an old brainer. It was the first one that I wrote down story that you're of course, be and then John Jones happened and then you'll see two thirty to happen. And then the location change happened. And in the end, I was like, I can't believe this. But this story is actually making, you know, two twenty nine seem a little bit smaller in the end though. I went with ritual say they wanna have recently buys that. I make the right colored. You disagree was John Jones. And all that, you know, all that stuff that actually Trump what happened between Connor? No absolutely not unless I misunderstood. If you took him for headlines still goes to Connor be though, we did have a lot of fun with the drama. That's this past week. However, I thought it was widely of the year and without question even with Jones mess, unless you're talking about the rivalry between John Jones. And who saw it definitely goes to could be in Connor. Okay. So you grew me on that. Let's start in April. When all this went down initially. Remember, the running of mobile of and Bieb and the hell and then Connor flies. We actually disagree. He member we argued on ESPN two I believe back at the initial press conference. You didn't by the fact that he was coming there to support his French defend his honor. Now that it's over. And you've heard Connor tells side story, do you actually agree with me that he actually flew over there to help his friend. That's it innocent. No, no, no, no. I thought the way that you were presented in our previous argument that this was a sign of honor. This was a sign of loyalty to his friend. Wait a second. Nothing happened to our Arkham was in a home way. He be spoke of parents, it was compete speaking so close and actually putting his hand on him quite literally to reach up and touch him with the palm of his hand. They got got some kind of street cred Connor than this. No, I thought it was disgusting. I thought it was a crime the ended up in handcuffs. And I thought it it should be presented any other way than that. Okay. Fair enough. Speaking of being in handcuffs. I remember those two days of Brooklyn when he was in the courtroom, and you know, just being, you know, escort by the cuts that was surreal stuff at the same time to twenty three was was kind of in shambles. And they're looking for a new main event against be when you saw how it all played out. And you saw how the fans reacted to Connor in the aftermath is it possible that he actually became? More popular as a result of the criminal activity that he was a part of. Oh, of course, airline notorious always Trump's infamous always Trump's famous, and yes, he did some some of them for the right reasons. Some of the Robin did make you hate to say this because it acts as the we're justifying this action of way, but the reality if you look at the numbers it helped to make for a very special in meaningful fight, and you know, it's hard to get both of those guys to the table. It really is it's hard to get guys in there with con McGregor guys saying they want to do it because it's a big pain. Sometimes it's hard to get Connor in there because he needs to make sure he's got a corner that can meet of halfway in the media. So this is what really forced those guys in there together and the ones that profited from decipher what was all of us air that was the match we wanted to see with or without the Dolly incident. It just added that extra level of story line the guys like you. And I frankly love in hindsight, you think Conor made a mistake to take this fight. Storyline of side, obviously was one that had to happen because of the story line in the feud. But let's forget he was coming up two year layoff in hindsight. Should he have taken a fight? That was a little more. Oh, I don't know style friendly. No, I don't think. So, you know, I never think that that's a good play, particularly when you know, you are champion and your the highest paid guy. And you're the drawn you're in the industry looking you're going to be the leader go up there and be the leader. If you're going to take that money. You gotta take that beaten. I don't think that you should be able to have the vote ways. I think whenever you and high seen guy steering away from the rightful competition, and who decides that the ramp competition is air the fans when you're in a division, and you don't want to give the fans fight they want. I think that is very cowardly when it happens you, and I seem to hate it. When a guy goes in there, he stubs his knee skids, his the a little bit because you know, he didn't have a layoff and was a little bit rusty. If you choose to hang your argument on that hat. Listen, I just don't think that that's fair that we can have both ways. I think the top guys need to fight the top people, and we should be happy. And celebrate when they do regardless of the outcome because so we just saw the finish right of there. Of course, be ended up submitting Connor in the fourth correctly from Ronco remember sitting with you at T mobile arena. Seen. It was you actually thought Connor did a lot better in the fight that most people like I feel like now people look back at the fourth-round submission. He dropped me saw that. But I remember you actually praising conifers performance my wrong. We have understand. It was certain positions. Could be a great job in the fight could be had the upper hand in certain positions. We knew that we saw that going in that he was arrested heavy that he was top heavy. The guy's very difficult time getting him off a meeting matching with that pace. Look Connor came out in the very first round and was stopping and making be worked very hard for those take. I don't think Conor did fantastic job on bottom his own campus, come out set. Well, I was kind of our plan. We thought if we got taken down we weren't likely to get up because nobody else did. So we're just gonna hold on wait for the conclusion of the round, which means we're gonna start on our feet where we want to be in the next frame. That's not a great way to win a fight to which they conceded, another why they made this public knowledge. But I did think that Connor make could be worked very hard, particularly in that opening take Connor did win a round against could be this after could be officially not just on you and ice scorecards the official ones turned in CONNER had just lost a ten eight round. That's as close to being stopped that is close to being TKO as you can get he came. Back. He won around gets Kabaeva, and I should remind you in twenty six tries nobody's ever beaten could be. But nobody's even want around against him except for Conor McGregor who just been demolished. He collected himself. He recompose in that round in that one minute rest in the corner one around now, I think he used up all of his energy is getting stopped in the fourth. But overall, it was a very good fight was very competitive fight. If you wanna judge on a scale of Connor one around and nobody out of twenty six hundred tries can say as much so what's fun about this story. And this rivalry is that it's still developing because I have a feeling they will cross paths again. And of course, they have their little issue with the Vata on our last episode of Arie on the bad guy you wanted to make like some sort of gentleman's bet as to what kind of punishment that they would receive why not do it on ESPN two right here right now, what are you thinking? So they got the hearing coming up in January for even Connor their teammates are all sort of under the microscope here. But what do you think Nevada's gonna give them? Result of the melee that happened afterwards. Okay here. I'm surely guessing following about it, you know, if I will remind you before anybody was sanctioned mixed martial arts. It was the Vata first before that all the big boxing fights in the world took place in either New Jersey or in Nevada. Now, I realize that Texas tattoo rain, California has thrown his hat in the that's the way it used to be. And I always fall the commission very close. I think we have to start with an overlapping Fien victim Batta handled this perfectly era they were so upset tonight. You look at these photos right here. No, governor was in attendance commission works as some pleasure of the governor. So this isn't going to go over just wanna that it, basically, you know, what I'm going to say anything wanna do anything. We're going to spend the next meaningful time, which in this case is out to three months collecting every piece of video footage that we possibly can we're gonna look at every single off angle. And then we're gonna make our reaction. And the reason that I'm complimenting them is so many times agency. These people particularly government entities. We'll have a knee jerk reaction. They'll go out there. They'll look to scapegoat somebody they'll look to look at it front of their boss in this case, the governor they didn't do that this time they stood back a little bit it appears with some of the return of the money, it appears with them allowing some leniency in the timeframe that the athletes are gonna come for that Nevada has looked at this and said, you know, what there was enough blame to go around. And at the end of the day. Nobody got hurt. We don't like this could happen within our jurisdiction. We are going to discipline you for but we're not gonna put you out a year. Like some people have predicted. We're not going to your whole purse. Like, some people thought we would do as a matter of fact could be here is fifty percent also known as one million dollars. We're going to go ahead and return that to you now, which means now we're only playing with fifty percent of your money air. I think they're gonna come in heart on I think they're gonna come in somewhere in the twenty percent range, which represent withholding two hundred to four hundred thousand dollars of conceives money. Also. Presenting the biggest Percy's ever made in this life. But I think they are going to be a little bit more lenient on the time restraint. I realize that could be was already been punished in the form that he was not allowed to do post. By interview hear that announcement to hear Bruce buffer Saint have Dana white put the belt around. I think they're looking at saying, you know, what we've got one way we got two ways to get you. But we're only going to execute on one of them. Here's your license back. I really think they're going to do that. Wow. Okay. What a shocker that will be especially coming up. The John Jones situation may be Vada's is starting to get his act together. That's very interesting. Okay. So that was our story and rivalry of the year as I said a lot went into this card, and I predict when the first people chill who predicted that this car would do over two million. You said it was hogwash. She said it was not going to happen. You said wouldn't even crack a million if memory serves me, correct, Ma-maybe krecko. But I think I think you said that was being million to I said to off the bat, I was that coffin in for a minute and. Then it went up, and then it killed two million. It was like two point five or something like that. We don't know the exact numbers to twenty nine was a huge event not only because of Connor Habib, but the whole card delivered UC two Twenty-nine as my event of the year to me was a no brainer. When you have an event that breaks pay-per-view record when you have performances like Derek Lewis against Alexander Volkov, and of course, Tony Ferguson empty Pettus and many others. Michelle Waterson, dumb grace event of the year. Do greek. Era when you have an event that we're now talking about on ESPN and took place on October was at six. Okay. That's that's a meaningful amount of time ago in here, we are still talking about absolutely these guys win without question air, you want to know what was something very special for me was the level of production. Remember when Conor McGregor came out, and they had those smoke machines. But they only went like me high. So he's hit a billionaire strut through all of that fog. You got John Malkovich himself are evangelist of line that John Malkovich. Doing the voice over you. Will that was a fantastic evening and then out of nowhere. They switched to the Irish music and Connor comes out holding that flag, you know, in his hands over bull shoulders with that stone cold look on his face like he couldn't possibly care less about getting there with that was a meaningful. I'll tell you for me as a fighter. It was an inspiring evening. Yes. And less we forget you are scheduled to fight a week later. A lot of people thought you wouldn't come to work that night. But you actually told me sitting there, I asked you why did you come you said because you get inspired from moments like this, and I couldn't agree more. It was a great night now. That's right. Let me ask you chill rematch. A do you think it happens and twenty nineteen and be does it beat that pay per view record? If it does happen. Oh, absolutely. It's going to beat that record reported that two point four million. I don't know what they actually did. But I can confirm for you, the Khanna mcgregor's, then on the view, and he was paid as though it was two point four million. I think we're pretty safe in disclosing that number on the other side of that point. I do believe it's going to happen. I'm not certain that it's going to be next for those guys. Dana white laid out of rogue matting semi-final if you will of Tony Ferguson taking on Khabib, Dustin poor taken on conham Gregor. I'm not sure if either one of those guys loses I'm still not sure there's not a reason that we can't get those guys together if they both win and you have the champion versus the proven number one contender. Yes. Aero forget it. It will break all paper view box office records ever done in combat sports. I have no interest in converse. Poor yet to a sought it didn't last long with all due respect as a much better fighter. I like what you're selling with LeBron Ferguson. But if but if you're in charge, are you also going Connor versus poor. Are you going maybe the ATS or backs? Holy route. What are you thinking? Some of these speculations to white was poor. It's just what you said your complaints by people are speculating as what the promotion likes. Look Connors had a pretty rough one. Okay. He moves up a way class and takes on the world champion, Eddie Alvarez. He goes into a sport. He's never done before with a zero zero record and takes on the greatest to ever done in Floyd Mayweather. Then he comes back and takes on arguably the greatest 'em finer out there when you consider the Beavis the world champion he's twenty five and at the time twenty six now and had never lost a single round. I think there is some reflection. The perhaps the bosses say, you know, what we pay the guy a lot of money, but we've been dealing from the bottom of the deck from the beginning. They thought they were helping him out early in his career Errol. His second fight ever was against max home away. Just nobody knew who max what nobody's career over time has looked in. Appreciate it. More like a fine wine then Conor McGregor. So I think that your point is. Very fair. I think that you're accurate on that. I think they know that and I think maybe congress getting tossed one, and I'm not gonna try to present it in the other way. Okay. Back to two Twenty-nine wins event of the year, not only because of the main event, but because it was a great card and your call. We actually debated this on area on the bad guy. We were like us is the card is gonna live up. I mean as a deep enough all this stuff will everyone showed up everyone recognized that it was a big deal. I mentioned a few other performances, I know putting you on the spot here. But was there one or two performances of fight or two that really stood out when he think about that night in Las Vegas? You don't I'm really did. Enjoy what we saw on there with Pettus. I thought that that was a very special fight. But over all if I'm being real fair to you. You know, flip Derek Lewis non for nothing. But that was a bit was are what I took every Keeble pleasure in Yeary all of those people doing and going crazy. There was something about his got us meant look highs in the low from dunk shin standpoint, nothing was like it though. I don't think Bill type and Tissot patient any better than what we saw. I remember very well it was it was the greatest of the year. Great calling Lewis also Dominic rates with great performance, Michelle Waterson. But since you bring up yes era. Yes. Derek Lewis took his pants off and got a title fight. Okay. You can't make up storylines like that. That is what happened and it was beautiful. See this is what I love you chill. This is what we have what we call the business chemistry. We don't know you don't know what's going on where we're not usually like in the meetings on the same page so to speak Roy's on the same wavelength because you knew exactly where I was going next. Derek Lewis promo of the year. He literally took his pants off and got a tunnel shoddy also like seven hundred thousand more Instagram followers. It was amazing. Let's relive that. Great moment from Derek Lewis after his win of Alexander Volkov. With the winds. Lewis turk. Watch ticket pants off balls is hard. I understand you came in his fight the number to contend with that knockout, you absolutely one of the top guys in line for the title next. So tell us what you think about that. I knew Cima Blanca. Cima? Blanca caudill ten Miller. From Tartu enough. Of course, he was wrong. And he ended up getting title shot like three weeks later. This was a no brainer. There isn't even a number two or number three finalists failed. You agree. That's what you an ice chemistry one about Derek. And Joe Rogan. I mean is this the Abbott and Costello come on these guys understood what another one of them off because the ball's Joe Rogan, I understand. I mean, come on air that is a delivery right there. That's two geniuses at work. Yes. Tremendous, even go to Popeye's deal all that stuff. In more. Let's hear from Mr. Black Beast himself. Dirk Lewis accepting our two thousand eighteen promo of your word. Wanna think everyone for vote me promoter year? ESPN get ready. You ain't for some crazy stuff in two thousand nineteen. I could have bet my life that he was going to make some sort of reference to you know, the testicular fortitude. He didn't do it. He kind of gave me a swerve on the acceptance speech. I thought he was going to do it. That's the brilliance. You know, what he always gives you what you want. But never you're expecting. I was expecting the same thing. When you're brought on for promo of the year. You've got in the words of the rock you've got to cut a promo like he was half asleep. I think that was great. I actually beg him to do that. I don't think he really wanted to by the way little nuggets for you. You have the nose awards wanna knows? I'm hearing that they're talking about Derek Lewis Alastair ovary next. Remember, also and went on the Mike afterwards and said, hey, I don't think this guy is funny. I'm not buying what he's selling. So that's in the works for twenty nineteen. I'm in put me down for by. All right. If you like this this magic right here. This thing that just went on on television is to we made it, buddy. If you like it, you could get it every week on ESPN plus area on the bad guy that called the show it's been going down since June. And we've been having a blast doing it from right here in Bristol, Connecticut. Sign up to ESPN, plus right now, check out all the old episodes that new episodes coming up this new one on Wednesday on the bad guy. He don't wanna miss it. All right. Plenty more awards the come chill. Thank you so much. Love you, buddy. Happy new year to you and your family all the best. It's been a pleasure working with you will see a after the break. Look at that. London England, happy new year everyone much more to come much love. Enjoying your New Year's Eve with all of us. What a great honor. This is again. Thank you to all of you for choosing to spend your New Year's. We're about to start a thirty year tradition. My friends we're going to look back on this episode as the start of something brand new. This is such a huge deal for me. Thank you so much. Okay. I said earlier in the evening that the walkout has become somewhat of a loss. Start at anime. I'm sure many of you would agree also a loss start and this dates back to like the old boxing days. The poster first time that ever doing this award because I feel like the poster needs to be recognized the posters big deal. When the you have C or Bela Tor one championship come out with new post. Everyone's talking about it scrutinizing breaking it down. And I want to single out one promotion in particular because I feel like they have just completely annihilated the competition when it comes to posters Invicta. See Invicta FC look at these posters right here. I have highlighted three Invicta thirty one Invicta thirty Invicta twenty six, but honestly, I could have picked every single card. They did in twenty eighteen they are creative. They are I catching they are fun. Of course, victim sif. You're unfamiliar with the promotion, offend tastic promotion, all female inmate promotion that. I mean, it's like the most consistent thing in MMA. They put on great cards. They also put on great posters. They produce a mazing posters and the brains behind these posters. My friends is a man by the name of boss logic at boss logic on Instagram and Twitter want to give them a shot up because he is phenomenal. What he doesn't even look at the color, the creatively designed this great stuff. This is what an EMMY posters should be all about don't make generic they'll make it run of the mill make it something that you. Wanna put on your wall back in the day? I used to collect boxing posters when I was a student at Syracuse university. I had in my apartment senior year was filled with just old bucks posters. Love the boxing poster, the old bucks. Poster. I love the story that poster could tell about a fight. I love the fact that victim see looked at the marketplace saw that other promotions weren't putting a lot of thought effort into posters, and they went out and hired one of the smartest men in MMA, the great boss logic. I don't even know this man's name. I don't even know where he lives. I talked him sometimes on social media. But I don't even know anything about it. All I know is that he produces this look at this twenty six thirty thirty one look at all in victims posters this year. Phenomenal. Congratulations Invicta posters of the year. Look at that stuff. Keep it up. I wanna see more promotions doing this in twenty nineteen. All right. Plenty more to come. We got a lot more wars with special guests standing by happy new year, those fireworks. I love New Year's it's. A happy time to reflect and look you all and I love the sport. I love him. May I look doing these wards more to come stick around? My New Year's resolution is to to continue a better person this continue working towards my dreams part work on. Twenty nineteen get back in my boys. Have a lot of governor teammates enough to. Contain of that commodity attending. Maybe the champions of the nineteen. Yes. The New Year's resolution who doesn't have one or two or three. They're always usually the same. They're always about getting better improving oneself improving one's lifestyle and MA. What about improving fighters? What about most improved fighters? You know, the great thing about this sport is that you can lose a fight you can lose two three points. And the fans have such short term memories. At forget all about it. And a look ahead to the next one. You get a big win known remembers the loss. And so let's talk about most approved fighters because this game changes. I mean, you saw some of them over there. They've had some lows than they have some highs this game changes so rapidly. Here's a look at my finalists for most improved fighter of twenty eighteen. All right. We just saw her Meena answer off what a year she has had in twenty eighteen look at that. Big win over cloudy billion not too long ago. She said I'm going to retire with my neck. Laws guess what she has lost since amazing year for her what a comeback year in a way and what an improvement in overall game. She's doing great, of course, partner. Mandating is the double champ is will Henry pseudo the messenger with the big win over the it's Johnson. You gotta give them a nod here. Because of course, he lost DJ you've seen ninety seven but his work with captain Eric Albers seen improving his striking over all the little cutout table, cheetah style the finishes. He has come a long way as game. And of course, now, he is the reigning defending you see flyway champion and finalist three Anthony Lionheart Smith. If I would've told you back in February that this man would be on the shortlist for most approved biters would have called crazy. Because of course, he lost to Seattle Santos. Guess what? Since then he dropped down or I should say drop up went two to five. And now he is on a roll he has won his last three in a row, he defeated Rashad Evans. In fact, he retired for shot Evans, and June came back in July with the win over shogun hooah and then. Had the big win over both can Ozdemir in Moncton New Brunswick. That is my most improved federal of the year that is Anthony Smith what a what a tale of two years. It has been for Anthony Smith, of course, training out of the factory extra. We spoke about his coach Mark Montag. And now he is kind of to be joining us on this New Year's Eve there. He is Mr. Anthony Smith himself. I'm gonna give you some some respect your take these glasses. Anthony, congratulations on winning the award. Congratulations on a great year. Thanks a lot. Really? Appreciate it's been a been a roller coaster, hasn't it? It has been really has. So if I told you back in February after that loss two Teo Santos that it would turn around the way it has one of the top contenders to five you're going back and forth with John Jones. Would you believe me? No, probably not, you know. I I just that's yoga Santa's losses a rough one man to the wakeup was terrible. And and I was just in a really dark spot and credit to Mark monthly and Jim Walter the they just kind of, you know, grab me by arms kick me up in and we just made a plan, and we stuck to it. And we moved up in feel great. And I really feel like things are clicking. I'm coming into my own now. And I feel like a lot of fans would consider you like a breakout fighter. But you've been in this game a long time to experience this kind of success. Now is nothing short of amazing. And I want to go back to that loss. Because I remember for the longest time you pin your tweet after that Chegos Santos laws. It was a dark moment for you. You were down depressed, but you left it up there as a reminder. Why did you do that for so long? It's actually still there. I haven't removed. It's still there. Wow. I just I wanna remember that feeling, you know, getting on the plane, and and having such a long trip back from Brazil, and and just feeling so terrible. And really just down and out. I I I just knew that I wasn't where I needed to be in like you said I've been in his game forever. I've been fighting professionally since await, and I just I wanna remember that. Because I don't ever wanna be there again, you know, this may this is the the highest level losses are going to happen. Especially the way that fight. I laid on the line. So they do happen. But I don't ever feel like I felt after that fight again. And I don't wanna forget that he mentioned huddling with your coach Mark Montag your manager and Walter one of the very best in the game both of them. And of course, moving up has been a theme right in this sport. Oh, you guys move up like Daniel Cormie hooved up it. Well, say north cut moved up that. Well, but it's not just about moving up to improve. Right. I mean, obviously, the extra twenty pounds helps. But what were you able to? Due to put it all together. Like this to have performed as you're not just squeaking by your finishing. You're finishing shogun. You're finishing Volkan. Could you tell us what you did to really improve your game and take it to this level. Definitely started with moving up and being able to really focus on getting better. And and bringing the best products table. I'm just other than the bulk and fight which was a tougher fight for me. I'm able to bring the product to the to the gone that I have one while I'm in the gym. And that's the big difference. I'm a mentally just turned on. I believe in myself. And I know that sounds super corny and super lame. But like, I I believe in myself, and I just feel in my heart that I'm going to be a world champion, and we're almost there. Okay. So speaking of believing let's spin this forward. I saw you going back and forth with John Jones on TV. I see him responding to you on Twitter. So clearly, you're on his mind. Do you believe you will fight John Jones next for the light heavyweight title? I do I do. I don't think that Daniels gonna come back down to five, and I don't it doesn't sound like John is going to go up. And I know the fans keep saying that they don't think that I deserve it. And the John will walk through me. And like we said before this isn't about how you feel doing the fight. It's have earned it in who else is there. I beat the number two guy in the world who just fought for the title. Gus in is now, you know coming off a loss. He just got beat by John. And and I and I think that I'm the man that do it. You know, it's real easy to pick to pick holes from tape in and say, you think you do this. And he would do that to me. But it's I think people are finding out pretty quickly. There's different when you're in front of me. And I'm the man to be John Jones. I really am. Would you think of his performance on Saturday night? I was surprised really surprised. He his body look different. He looked kind of soft. He didn't look as fast and snappy. Normally did in the biggest takeaway, I took his John John fights with a lot of arrogance, and that's one of his strongest attributes as mentality. He's he's mentally strong. You're gonna have a hard time break and that guy, and he's he's a phenomenal fighter. I'm not gonna sit here for ten to John's not great. But I seen a guy there that wasn't nearly as arrogant in in nearly as confident and itself as as he wants was I don't know if that's the layoff or all the stuff that went on leading up to this fight with all the controversy. But you know, I seen a different guy in that. Wow. That is interesting. Okay. Look the self confidence the belief that you have in terms of getting this fight back to the year that was show gun for shot full can which win. Did you like the best? Probably show gun. Probably shogun. I think showed him was. It was a bittersweet moment. I think getting a win over someone like show gun that I admired for so long. And it was just so such a scary, dude, you know, and. It was. That was the best one. But it was also probably the worst one afterwards sitting in the hotel. And and you know, you see the replays on Twitter and Instagram, and it was just so devastating. Almost like wasn't watching myself. Just watching someone walk through him like that was kind of tough to see. But it was the most satisfying for me for sure so byproduct of being a highly improved fighter and for being on the role that you are on. Now is you all of a sudden become a Mark, man? And this is somewhat of a new phenomenon in your career because I feel like for the longest time you were doing the hunting. And now people are hunting you on Saturday. We saw Corey Anderson call you out he now wants a piece of you as well. What did you make of that call out? And if you can't get John are you interested in fighting beast in twenty five eight. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it's funny. That Corey Anderson had an opportunity to fight me in the Lincoln card in and he turned it down. Because apparently, I wasn't good enough. Now, all of a sudden on the guy that he's chasing. So I do find that kind of funny and a part of me wants to tell them to kick rock just throw back at it. But you know, I see Luke rock Rocco. You know had a lot to say about me lately. So that's another option, but I definitely want to. I obviously I want to want the fight with John Jones player, you know, those are definitely to options point, nuke rock hold. I haven't haven't seen him talk about you. What does he said? How did you miss that? I don't know where have been working on this show. What happened? I don't know. He just came out with an interview said he's moving up to two oh five because of bums like me. Middleweight that are middleweight washouts that we're able to jump into the top ten sounds like sounds like Lucas is begging for chance to get another big fight because he's probably not getting one winning five hundred imagine. Wow. Now have you campaigned? Have you have you? I understand like I understand putting you on the spot and ask you about other people, but you want John Jones, and I get that. Have you campaigned behind the scenes has your manager? Jim reached out to the CFO. There any talks, what do you think and you're going? Oh, yes. Already been talking in trying to figure out. I think it really comes down to the time line more than anything in. And I told John today anywhere anytime any place. I've always said that wherever I just need a, you know, kind of like could be semi location, man. I'll be there whenever you want. Now in terms of your game. The theme is improvement. Ray? You're the most improved fighter for twenty eight teen. What would you like to improve on the most? Is there? One thing to things. I'm sure, you know, we're all our our worst self critics, right? We always want to get better. As there's something in your game that you really want to work on and get better for twenty nineteen. Yeah. There's a couple I think that everybody can be better conditions. You know, I think that some of my conditioning issues in the past I've less to do with my conditioning and more to do with my pacing. I think that one of those guys I just kinda put my foot on the gas and go sometimes and Mark monthly's trying to pull that out of me a lot. So just being a little bit more calculated in and finding someone like John you have to be extremely smart, and I've gotten away within the past just biting with my instincts and not really, you know, not really being to tactical. So I I need to be a little bit smarter. You know, I have the ability to I just don't always don't always do it. Do you Chuck that up to the performance against Bulkin? You said that that maybe wasn't one of your favorites. Did you feel like you ran out of gas and that fighting needs to work on that? Yeah. I mean a little bit. You know, I I think that that was my first I've only been in this five round club thing for very sort of, you know, brief amount of time so five around five ounces. It's different BC. How so I think that I was asked hired as most people would be at the end of third round fight like we had I just had another two rounds? And I think that had gone back to the corner after the third round. And I would have had those those that's sixty seconds to recover. I think I would have been fine. But. I just got a, you know, it's a different. It's a different ball game. When you have five rounds. And it's something that I've got used to Johnston fighting five rounds most of his career, and you know, I've only done it twice. So this is it's it's a learning. It's a learning curve for sure Anthony, I couldn't be happier for you. Congratulations on a phenomenal year. Congratulations on winning prestigious most improved there. I'm sure next year. You wanna win fighter of the year. As you hunt for that belt and hunt for John Jones. Thank you so much for joining us. Happy new year to you and your family, your truly one of the great guys in this sport. And again, I couldn't be happier for all your success that you've had this year. It's a lot airline. I hope to be talking to you soon about a fight announcement. Hopefully, and I hope we have a new year and and look forward to seeing your your own grow as well. Thank you so much there. He is Anthony Smith are two thousand eighteen most improved fighter of the year. What a year he had coming off the loss to Santos than defeats for. Shot Evans shogun who. And of course, volcanoes Demere he is gunning for John Jones. We'll see if he gets done. It's shallow division to five. It's not the craziest thought of all time. Okay. The new era is rapidly approaching. We are literally like over an hour away or something. It's unbelievable. M A on ESPN. Plus, we are becoming the worldwide leader in mixed martial arts at the stroke of midnight area on the bad guy ESPN, plus every Wednesday myself until Sunan pre and post fight shows before and following every UFC bent. There is so much more great programming to come on ESPN plus jump on the bandwagon. My friends it's going to be great after the break more awards. Plenty more to come more guests more surprises. You don't wanna go anywhere. Hope you're joying our new year show much love. We'll see after the break don't touch that. Dial. Happy new year. My friends for me our whole team here. Bristol, Connecticut for my family from the community to you much. Love look at the celebration. There's nothing light near the the promise the excitement of the year to come nothing greater how much fun is this. I hope I hope that they forget about our time. Limit we could go another six hours. I'm having a blast. It's our New Year's show right here on ESPN two. I hope you are enjoying it wherever you may be. Thank you so much for this opportunity to be in your home. And on your television said on New Year's Eve what a great honor. All right. Let's keep the train moving along. What a show it's been so far special. Guests have come more to come. And now let us talk about the breakout fighter of the year. In essence, this is someone who just sort of came out of nowhere and not only did they come out of nowhere. They burst onto the scene. Now, everyone's talking about them a year ago known was really talking about them or maybe some people whispering here and there, but these individuals are now the talk of the town. It was tough. I have a very long list, but I had the whittled down to three finalists and here they are the app for mentioned eliminator Lima lay McFarland. Bill Tor women's flyweight champion just running through the competition. Headlining in Hawaii doing the thing with the walkouts with the finishes. I mean, look at that look at those elbows violent finishes Aleem Alade breakout. Twitter what a year she had no longer the soccer mon- killer. Alex, the great Volkan off ski what a year he has had wins over the likes of Darren Elkins and this weekend. Chad Mendez, not just the win over Chad Mundus of finish over Chad. Mendez Alex, great is on a roll. And now he's calling max hallway wants a title next shots left. And right. And then how about this man man that outspoken off St. knows very, well friend and teammate the one and only Israel the last style bender outta Sonya. What a year for him for. No. And not only does he win. Not only does. He hardly get hit. He dances in there. He shrugged his shoulders. He puts his mustard on the hot dog. I mean, it's just unbelievable with this man has done. And then the end it was a no brainer. It was Israel at sign him our break out fighter of the year. What a year for the last style. And again, four no wins in February comes back in April comes back over the summer in July, tough finale, and then defeats their Brunson. And of course, up next is the great Anderson Silva, holy smokes. What a year for Israel to Sonya. Let's talk him Israel. Congratulations on a great year. Congratulations on winning the very prestigious breakout. Fighter of the year war. My man, how are you? Man. I'm great. I'll feel awesome yet. I spent the last night the last day of last year just kind of reflecting over everything to sit out on my couch, and my next than just kind of go into mall and head and and looking back at sometimes I'm just going forward. I forget the small so I kinda. Yeah. Smelt the roses a little bit last night than I think you made the right choice. Alex is a close second definitely give them because that lasts with Mendez who was money was Mun. But again, you know, I'm the one I got a done who are the reshape at thank you. Absolutely. And I think we'll be talking about you later in the program for fighter years. Well, but what the year you had a there's this year that hey could be this year's we'll we'll find out at the end of the show. But but, but honestly, if I would've told you December of two thousand seventeen the honest that you've had this kind of year that you'd be on the verge of fighting enersen silver that Ugo Forno and fight them as Jian headlining. Finale. Would you have believed me? Yep. But there was a few other. Variables. Always learn how to death it on the stop like a move to where I could move right past it. I can real whatever. So everything that the world is thrown at me. I've been able to look I'm grateful, honestly, I try to. It's just going into this new keeping view botchy ball. I can't wait till Melba, man. The ehlers. And I'm glad men's silver poking. Saying that now when the final the first two weeks, I like who I'm finding Silva. But now, it's normal. Okay. I feel like I have to harp on twenty team because so great. But you just said something that really stuck with me and a half to expand on it. You're better than Anderson Silva, you feel like right now even with the fight a month and a half away. You are better than arguably the greatest middleweight champion of all time. On percent. Like, you have to be able to just be costal with who you are. And have you seen that new black mayor movie, I have not and Netflix? It's kinda like goosebumps book where you get to pick. And choose what happens nets and plants the whole theory of like simulation. Whatever last is show. I said like a vessel like. Playing. I don't know for what this, and I people say God people say hi Powell, but literally the wealth plan this game right now, I'm playing with Chico. It's not fair. It's not fair. He's the old avatar on the take over. Wow. Let me ask you about this past year the four victories. Is there one that stood out? Is there one that means a little more to than the rest? Me. I don't know about means a little more. I don't know about means a little more. But the most fun I had was brought to Vars the headlining and just fighting. Brad. You have a good plumber who can play Bracken the play rod came to play. And we had one in there. So five rounds light work. I was nothing to me and people like, oh, he's ready for this. This is this is five rounds. Can you handle it? So for me was nice kind of everyone notice show everyone, and I'm gonna keep doing that. 'cause everyone's gonna keep any then all biggest critic on my biggest fan. So I stay on. I stay woke. Okay. So you're obviously very confident I feel like this after every win this year. How do you remain confident but also grounded not buying your own hype? Not feeling yourself. Little too much your super-popular back home here about the fight very close to home in Melbourne here about the fed Anderson Silva that feels like the people's main event for you see two thirty four how are you balancing the two confidence. But also humility. Experience experience looking telling you like a lot of these athletes all like, not not an MA in mainstream sports like basketball baseball. They projected fake humility fake humble. You guys know what I'm talking about you guys. No one talking about the kind of people who aren't jet right on the PR. They all. This is where I get home. This is what I get home. When Steve won't be punches me in the pay. This get humble went down on my back with four minutes. This is why get humble other than the being home for anyone else. I'll show. You will deal with the you ain't got to like it. But you respect it you'll accept it. So I'm not trying to be anyone's he wro- anyone's guru anyone's role model. I'm just doing me and digitally. I got home every day. Remember that Sinn boxing and Bill. I just balanced through the people. I have around me through my experience my experience. I've ended up getting guy said I've blew up this year while being blowing up like ISIS, I've been blowing up a long-term letting me but up in another level and this fight it's going to be bigger than all. So already for I stay woke told you woke the I stay open. I appreciate that in for those that don't know Israel is in New Zealand right now. So it's actually new years already their New Year's day. He is sullaway ended a gay. Yes. At the gym Israel wins. The first time you watch Anderson Silva fight you, remember? I watched it on DVD. I can't remember for the name aqua DVD. Listen seven or eight that I'll remember, but one of those ones I was to live on pay TV was yet belong USC Ninety-one shake. And then after that, I watched them maybe you have seen ninety eight later p one with spread fan and the list goes on. So I've just been watching it for years. But I told you show I'm gonna be I'm gonna end up to insult over less scratch that leave that last year, I'm going to Israel, dishonest, silver, guaranteed. How're you going to do it? Can we get a finished? We get your good finishes. Good at picking them Brown method. We get one for Anderson. Leave it leave it open free. Stop because he's a guy you have to like, I said underestimate anyone and then tell you overestimate, he's just another block of loves on leans cries. When I punch them you feel it. And he punches me lint, so clean is different. This is he fights people stand by people who come to get his gingy too low. Different story. I can I can trap it. Good. We'll get fucking the headlights and he's fighting on days never moon from those never ever worked for so. Yeah. It's a different story men. I'll let my team passenger what up Celia CeCe happy new year. Well, I appreciate that Israel. Congratulations. By man, what a year was for you from the kick boxing ring to the octagon threes on the area. Oh, no. I'm not, but I have to go. It's time to go. My friend much love. Congratulations on your looking forward to fight against of. There is Israel out of Sonya while what character, but great character in the sports. So yes, four no in twenty eight teen. He returns to action on February ninth UFC, two thirty four the very first paper view of the ESPN era there. It is Robert Whitaker versus Kelvin gas in the winner of the Sonya Anderson Silva fight will most likely fight for the belt. So they will fight the winner of Whitaker versus gasoline because it's all in the middleweight division. There's the lineup right over there. A beautiful slate of fights coming your way on February ninth here in the states for tenth Australia, you f c to thirty four. Okay. So we go from improve fighter of the year. Most improved then break out of the year. Now, we go to comeback fighter of the year. And this is always a very fun one because the comeback fighter is someone who may be had a rough previous years in this case two thousand seventeen or has overcome something. You know, negative and turned it into a positive in this particular case, it's a very interesting one. It's not what you think. Let me explain further as a introduced the finalists. Here we go most or I should say comeback fighter. Most comeback. Come back. Most most comeback to get them saying comeback fighter of the year. Daniel cornea, yet Daniel cormier everyone's talking about him as a finalist for fighter of the year to how about the fact that he ended twenty seventeen on a loss getting knocked out by John Jones returns with low confidence against Belkin Ozdemir wins the Bill back, then becomes the double chat. And then of course, headlines against Derrick Lewis and wins that put in mystery. So that's one number two max hallway. Yes, max hallway I had Matt's hallway at the end of last year as my twenty eighteen fighter the year. That's why predicted it didn't work out for the majority of the year for him. But he said constantly. It's not how you start the race. It's how you finish it. That's what he said. And look how. He finished it against Bryner. Take the Rondo winning that fight retaining his title. What a year for max hallway after some trials and tribulations, of course, Europe Rigas who did not see for quite some time over year loss. The Frankie Edgar we thought. He would never return the same. He returns in November on short notice. And defeats the Koreans AVI with the latest knockout finishing UC history with arguably the greatest of all time and most importantly our knock out of the year. Yes. L patera hardly stand afterwards. But in the end it goes to max Holloway. And I know you're thinking what max Holloway? How could that be? How could that be sick about where max hallway was in March when he was supposed to fight against Frankie? Edgar think about where he wasn't April when he was supposed to made up big about where he wasn't July when he was supposed to fight Bryner tak- he overcame all of that all those obstacles. And did what he did against Bryner tak-. That's my comeback fighter. The year. It is an honor to be joined by the reigning defending. You have see feather way. Championed the one and only mex- plus hallway max my man back in the pump and room. How are you can ground? Good. How you guys thank you is not to be managed in route wide. Like, I said, but exactly what you said when he opened the show and you start the race. It's how you finish. And I think we've finished wrong with that that last bite unbelie, and I know most fans will say what comeback your how could this be? But you have overcome so much my friend from the Edgar injury to then what happened in April not making it to the fine. Of course, what happened in July to me. No one exemplifies what it means to be a comeback. Fight of the how do you receive this order still the champ didn't lose in the previous year? How do you feel about this award being given to you? You know, I'm the comeback kid period. You know, I'm underdog king. I don't know what it is. And I've been do been sleeping on me. So it's great. You know, it is what it is. I'm just glad to be a part of the show. I get to get a Hopi sending that trophies out to us put it up somewhere in the. Like, if you eight days washes chauffeur's, I'll put one back this view. As a as a you van you ought to met. You wasn't even smiling. The last one what is going on aerial? You gotta start this new end his new year. Good. I'm glad we putting smiles on your face, man. I appreciate that. It's it's amazing because you have also talked, and I think you have helped a lot of people max leading up to the Ortega fight. You talked about battling depression, you talked about overcoming that the dark moments just being open about that means a lot to a lot of people. Was there any point this year? Max where you thought you wouldn't fight again in twenty eight teen that this year was a wash and that maybe you wouldn't be able to fight a one forty five. They take your title way, were those kinds of thoughts were going through your mind one point. Oh, yeah. For sure I especially after last July one, you know, I was like man, am I even going to make that walk ever again? And I gonna get stripped the bunch of things going through my mind, and you know, depression is crazy like I said, you know, but we can overcome together, you know, tasting the man in the with the way he talks about depression. How how he battled and he came. Back and just like him. You know, I'm doing it for us. You know, if you got if you got it makes you get yourself out of out of it made bless yourself move on and look for help. We're team, you know, you were stronger numbers and come on and talk about, you know, don't be afraid, you know, a lot of people scared to talk about mental health and this and that, but we live in aero where a lot of people like go on this thing called social media and act like a tough guy. So it's a it's crazy. It's super crazy. And all you gotta we gotta be able to stay strong. Let the posit go on and gonna come together if you fighting something reach out to someone and you're not alone. Guys. You guys not alone. You know, I I was definitely like you said man, I thought fighting was was done. You know, I don't know what it was. But you know, thankfully, I had many blessed around. He he was a big help. I had my family my mom's around a lot. And just my team. You know, my team is strong. He got you guys. I got the fans. It was crazy. All crazy. This year is insane. And I got to go out there Cup. Two weeks ago? Choi Leyla self and have fun against I'm excited. Yes. In the tenth island of Toronto, Ontario Canada. So you've Enquist Bryner tak- afterwards. Dana away continued to say he wants to see you fight at one fifty five. I heard a rumor max that they were thinking about you versus Tony Ferguson at one point that that was being discussed that true. And I mean, the next one fifty five I heard that rumor to, you know, I don't know who I don't know. Who's starting rumors got arrow you starting rumored hunks, but I don't get it. I heard that rumor to I I was getting texted. I got today. Actually, someone thing say now, it's funny like, congratulations. I hear nothing. But I don't know we have like I said, I'm I'm a king once kingly throwing people invade invade the village, and I don't want my village to invade. You know, if it's if it's forty five forty five, you know, there's a lot of interesting match for me fifty five, you know, got the top two guys. They're trying to figure it out. And we see I'm enjoying the holidays. Happy new year. Here is not even new years yet. So I'm a kickback relax, and we give me a call. I have to ask because it just happened outspoken. Upscale Saturdays said that he is your worst nightmare. Did you see his fight in? What you make of what he said about you. On you know, I I didn't see it. You know? I I don't know who guy is actually, you know. But I didn't see no fight. I didn't watch it. I know those on the opening the main card on I was on the evil to see the champ do work. What an amazing thing. Amanda Nunes did and in but we should happen. I thought they sound fight wrestlers. I swear for Ricardo. You know, they say they said stuff was my worst nightmare Aldo. Then they said there's a new nightmare in Bryner tak- everybody being nightmares. Their worst. Nightmares mice be my dreams because I don't know people been saying vein wrong. And all they like the name is is going to Disneyland for me. So it's great if they want to he's a new cupcake, you know, I don't know where he's from. We bought the figure out what the find out the flavor and find out if I like it do you still feel comfortable putting on forty five if they say to your next one forty five you feel comfortable with that a one hundred percent and all. He's on the last way. I was I was great. I was really wanna greatest week cuts ever. I wanna great fight weeks ever, actually, period. And I felt great. You know, I feel great. You guys have to see what I what I could do. I came out there post a bunch of records beat a bunch of records. I'm excited, you know, if it's forty five forty five fifty five fifty five, you know, I heard these looking for some money fight. He know who the money guy is that Noma fan. Let me know. Yes. DC will bring his tennis shoes his high saw. It's never say that the edit that is on life. You don't ever say tennis shoes come on? I know that bothers you. I know that bothers you speaking of which be honest max, you said all the right things leading up. But what was it like when you saw a Lima lay fight in front of that crowd? I knew you were jealous of her because I know that meant the law you didn't want people. But did you think like men I want that to want that experience? Yeah. You know, there's I the way I thought of it is time for everyone. You know, my times will come is Leila's time, you can't take that time away. She deserved everything. She got she walked out. You know, we actually one of my brothers wasn't guys carrying the flags and stuff. Wow. That was built. Yeah. Those and it was crate man, you had to beat crazy. And I'm getting goosebumps talking about it right now is amazing thing. And I can't wait. You know, it was her time. They bring it here. We should happens. You know, I think comes down it. There's times there's times to this you, and I think so we might come down next year. You know, hopefully, hopefully get here we get to stay. Hopefully, I can get my walk. Oh like that. It was a is just amazing, man. It was amazing. I couldn't if you I we can the knees what I can say I feel like when I when I did my first fight in the UC. And I explained to you guys how when before was saying my name feeling weak in the knees, myself, don't fall maximum fall. You know, and I saw it was when Lima dinner walk as amazing is Julia. Is truly amazing. You know? I bless you know, hopefully, they can bring it back. Hopefully, we can funny get UC down. And they look you'll see did it. We did it. Let's goal. You know, the the the Hawaii tourism authority was saying that I didn't want to bring down the wrong crowd or whatever. So we've just prove them, you know, that is the best crowd. You know? So let's that's goal. You know, that's Dana. Let's go you see. That's let's go aerial come down. And we can have our virgin pinochle out on the beach. It's a deal. My man for now, though, congratulations brother very easy week year for you. What a year it has been two thousand eighteen unbelievable stuff. What you have overcome. What you have done to get to this point. Just this year loan is is nothing short of inspiring. So congratulations Hume hallway. Enjoy your New Year's. Thank you so much for joining us. They can't thank you enough. Thank you, man, man. Not love for you. You always have my support true that years and stuff man arrow behind the scenes, man. He's he's checking up on you. If you've on the blessed express get on the express because he's a real deal. Thank you much love for my. Yes, there he is the one and only Mets plus Holloway. The you have C for the way champion. What are you here for him? All right. Big one coming up next. My friends don't go anywhere female fighter of the year. You don't wanna miss it? It's going to be a good one happy new year wherever you may be. We're having a bless stick around. Welcome back to the two thousand eighteen wanna knows awards right here on ESPN, two two hours in the books. Now, my friends it is time to give out the award to female fighter of the year. Oh, my this one was so interesting because it actually came down to the last weekend of the year. Yes, you see to thirty two it just happened in Inglewood, California. And it actually came down to one point the winner. This fight was probably going to be the female player of the year in the end. It was the lioness herself Amanda Nunez who finished Chris cyborg who knocked out. Chris I for the first time in sideways career two thousand and five with cyborgs last loss. Wow. She did it in less than a minute. And now, she's the double champ to titles. She's the women's featherweight and bantamweight champion. Amanda. Congratulations bands. Not only did you win on Saturday. Now, you win the Hawaii knows female winter the year Ord. Yes. Thank you guys. Appreciate. Okay. So this is what I wanna know. What have you been doing for the last forty eight hours? How you been celebrating this incredible feat? Doing a lot of being all over. I mean, he vagus now voice like walking the street. Do a. Do a lot of like Danish. We my friends in drink everytime. We stopped me. Get a being green. Valley, and you certainly deserve it. It's been incredible ride for you to do this. Chris I Borg after what you did to Ronda Rousey after what you did to me. She Tate just nothing short of amazing. I'm wondering how many times in the last two days? Have you watched that fight it only takes fifty seconds? How many times have you actually watched? It a lot. Whatever I go sometimes. With my frame today. Again, a little bit saw show what Dan thing. But it's pretty speak. Good. You know? I have to watch over him over two days. I better laugh enough fight in a Heff watch these in November. In. Like make me feel good watch every time. You don't. Yes. Not only. No, go ahead. I went through a lot. I went to allow us fight in glide that like what what do you mean? When you when you say that you went through a law. Move up like the east like is hardy in you have to do everything again like learning how to how training we heavy. No, he's very hard in trade with b d guys like train like bog ahead to really step in in the gym cage. And throw bummed is guys throw bummed. He's men in. I tried surviving. In especially mentally disliked. Was so big that it has to do like Willie like a strong heavy strong moment with myself every every single day in for that for our reason was voting hard for me fight. Okay. So considering that you even want to stay at one forty five or is too hard to stay at featherweight. I don't know. I didn't even win a home yet. Have true celebration these Royal with my my train on the gene being about home for everybody. I still like. Heads people back home to decide you my next step. Saudi happened way class. A few voted good. If a few fast powerful. In. We'll see I'm going to side. So Amanda, I remember the first time I saw you fight. It was against Julia Budd around nine years ago, you beat her and fourteen seconds. And you ran around like you did on Saturday night after that victory. You were so happy and everyone thought maybe this could be the one who could be Chris cyborg? It took you almost a decade to get there. But you did it if I would've told the Amanda Nunez back then that you would turn into the greatest fighter of all time double champion making history. Almost every time you fight. Would you believe me, or is this all a big dream for you? After the fight. They talked to me about cyborg right off, the this July. In way, something that I stopped by coats the in. Literally UFC by force in in everything was. Was only talked in in. I say after the fight my coach tell me like, let's let's draw over thirty five because having more gales in. We can make more noise in thirty five. In in. When I had my fight for the first I thirty five that I drop away rowdy hardy, by the way in. I lose the fight. In in Dow, always eight something to think about if I wanna stay in one thirty five and or go to flee five, but that's in the league. That was a dream for me. Maybe maybe when they fights bogged maybe on them they want to beat her. But I don't think this is the right moment. Eat right. Always still have to evolve a lot as a fighter in if he's gonna happen. I'm going to be ready for but that would back. There was a dream. Which moment felt better knocking out Ronda Rousey or knocking Chris work. Knockout cyborg for sure? Because seized. He's that the best hedge of user, you know in in. She don't lose full like Sologub end. Everybody cares. Bog and all those things in in Tanaka. How in in Provo like I scare I'm not scared of her at all the whole. If I look ahead is nice scare you in. When I was be able to like get her face. In bitter, log how like cold. Always the best feeling ever on his. She has handled the loss. I think very well. She has handled it with class and has been complimentary of you. But she also said she wants an immediate rematch. Do you think she deserves one? She's she's the grades Vija voice. They graze hard to. And let's see what do you see want? Is not me. Whatever west you going to let me know, what do they want to do? A can't really say anything if you say, yes. Dated on one fight them going to happen. You know, by the way, speaking of the brass when you jumped over the cage, I saw you talking to Dana way. What did you say to him? Gums LeBron with me. Because like him. I would make you happy. Then make happen. I promise I will chip. N Regan celebrate together. In was I jump at told you I told you. And I saw that amazing photo that you posted afterwards where you have the two belts in bed with you. And I know this year has been very special not only because your compliments also winning back home in Brazil in may. But because of your partner Nina answer off as well, we mentioned earlier in the show one of the finalists for most improved fighter of the year for both of you now to have this year where you're both. Streaking you're making history. She's now title contender this. I would imagine make it all that much more special right for show, and very helpful Yuna. I always I always knew she she can get that, you know, she can be the champion. I always knew ending she proved now she's she's the next day ending. I should be. I think she's of decided shot on because he had I see Nina and five I think she she just eat Jason teas. And I'm pretty sure she she supposed to be the next that I had already and she can fight. Forgot had made. I forgot it named the say. She's contained his route Tatyana touch outta Suarez. Taty honest wadis in Nina put about I think, I think unite you rose is going to be fun. You know, I know she's going to both is going to go. Strike the whole. I mean, it's going to be fun. I know the fight us ended. But when would you like to return to action do even know yet give time though now I'm going to take like a good break for sure Brazil? I have a lot of these numbers. You have to go that and see my family in stay little be that have my these numbers you have to care in in in Sierra happy, and he'd sometime I went through a lot. But just like on in in a need some rice a good arrest? I got I got seeked up with. Escape has to stop like almost like my whole camper hefty like fake break. My life spy got hurt in. I have to stop once again. But everything will out. You know, I'm glad like I was be able to to be fast in beverage. Gotta do walk done. But ways was a mental that for me was a mental fight between me myself. You know in the heck's two lights. Abrasion still it'd be with my in in good time, Brazil, I just wanna make sure I heard you correctly. You said in your last sparring session. You got hurt yet? What happened did you bag? You know, like when you say the cage, you you get like switch Sidey sometimes they'll be able to control yourself you low. You'll go against those guys to like. They that. I know they they always that you help me everything, but sometimes like winning in that kind of situation you throw bum in. They throw bubbles each other in days happening. This spy. Always Moi's station at all. But I got very hard hurt in to have to take a week off won't do anything. It was really. Hurt an even be able to step into flaw things like that. I was about that the whole weekend. Like, I can't turn despite down a half to go a have to move forward in these in. I think like the way that I think would. I mean, my mice set would just fight. I'm going to go stepping whatever you you're going to the keys you inside bone won't care. What happened? What did you hurt? What was injury was my leg. Wow. And I always be the next day on those putting my my my flow at all were you close to pulling out. Not actually, no. No. I went back. The do. I did like only up about things. The whole almost my whole last week. I only did up body team in was able to at least get a cardio without a body in. That's it. But was was little tough for me. Imagining be ready for bogging no train the life. I can't imagine away their way you wanna train like stepping, Katie. Like, you know. You're gonna you're gonna be a paddle Indy. You know, be able to really like be one hundred percents that it'll be hard enough. And so last thing, how's the leg? Now. Do you know how is it still hurting or are you gonna have to surgery? What can you tell us about the leg? Actually, the right now, he's pretty good. When I got there. I was right away. Tracks fight head the head of helping please head to put her hands in in make me like really few bad, but a win when she was I do the tree mate. I still feeling pretty baggage. You know, be able to really like go deeping and things like that. But he really was able to make me feel much better. You know, and a heavy Bagley back home and having my up by massage therapies to t- like every single day of the house make show my legs. I have to go training at least to do something. Jane, drink a lot of meds scene. Too late at least get it. Something bad that. But Michael Jackson coach like you. He was able to adopt a lot of training for me ever. Actually, by the way to say. Thank you very much to be there for me in everytime. We get. Voice training. I feeling my leg have to stop Dingle home in that team. Like it came to anything today. My legs hurt pretty bad any pretty more moments for me. I look in like baby. I think today like that's easy in but we're going to go. We're going to do these in. We're to do gonna turn despite thou because Sibol out Addy like duck show so much crackle me about my same as I days. I that in. And always be able to to let it go. You know, would it be too much for me to handle each Pulau that fight? I told you I'm gonna pull gonna fight in my injury. You're gonna. In in. I told you like keeping me like at least to like try defendant. If she she tried to kick me my legs in the in there. Were training. The fame defend the fan. Always my throat leg measurement. Was my front left. In. That way. That was pretty thoughtfully. In going to go back home. Tickets more my leg. Do I feel that much? I know they had a really like helped me he's weakened. In. I drink a lot of made seen from Dari things in the ass. You better. But a it tough Wiki. Well, I I was impressed with your victory on Saturday idea about any of that now even more press with what you accomplish well to do that to knock out Kris cyborg with with that kind of injury. That's that's just mind blowing so congratulations. I hope you feel better. Amanda, congratulations. Not only on what you did on Saturday. But you're incredible career you one fighter the year just a couple of years ago as well after that amazing year in two thousand sixteen and congratulations as well to your partner, Nina who had a phenomenal year as well to to both of you happy new year there. She is. Well, thank you so much to both of you for coming on. I really appreciate it and happy new year. Dake? You are we appreciate anytime. All right there. She is Amanda, news female fighter of the year. And there you saw Nina answer off with a nice little cameos will one of our most improved fighters of the years. Well, this is the most prestigious award not just in sports, but just in in the world, look at it. That thing anyhow, let us move along. We've had some other great female performances this year. I think one just wrapped up moments ago, you want to know how how you know that we're live this just happened moments ago Kayla. Harrison, the two time Olympic gold medalist EFL numero eleven their finale where they handed out a bunch of million dollar checks. She was in a featured belt three you this year. And she finishes her opponent. What's get? She is just so dominant look at that dominance pure dominance from me former teammate. Of one Ronda Rousey name that we will be talking about for many many more years to come. And by the way, teammate of one Amanda, noon as American top team's doing some great things with women's have made early this month. We talked about her all show long Lima lay McFarland with a great year as well. Another finalists in my opinion for female fighter of the year. Phenomenal performance again against the Canadian. Valerie, little no in her home state of what he what a moment that was earlier this month and less we forget, the bullet Valentina Shevchenko, you know, I knew of a scenario in which cyborg winds, maybe a whole home fight. I felt like Valentina Shevchenko could win female fighter veer in the end units made history so didn't have to but what are your shift chanko moving down to one twenty five. And she has that great victory that dominant victory gets Priscilla customer. Then she's chasing Nico Montagna all over the place. She's trying to get that fight. There were supposed to fight in September, douse. It doesn't happen. She shows up. So in a way that's victory. And then, of course, she fights. You want engine check in Toronto. She becomes the flyway champion. She wins, the vacant flyweight title, and she had some tough fights against the man. The new two of them. I wouldn't mind seeing trilogy between those two maybe down the line. Maybe three builds. All right. Here's PM plus soon to be the exclusive home of all things, you have see this is what it looks like my friends, I've been on ESPN plus since June, and I gotta tell you. I can't get enough because not only are you about to get all things. UFC on there. But you get other things like that more than an athlete show the Brown James in his I can't get enough of it in the crease NHL show love it. ESPN f c watch it every night. I've tell you. I'm not just saying if no one's called me to say this you need to sign up for ESPN plus right now 'cause great Pfizer coming up next year on the pin. Pin? I would really love to see against tomorrow's. Cohere judge especially after this. Those are some great fights. I'm gonna tell you about the play. I must see twenty nineteen after the break. Don't go anywhere. We are down to the new era. We are county out to the new year two thousand nineteen bay. As p. Let's pay tribute to two thousand eighteen and of from. Daniel corn me made his keys the bull. Chan be never got the euro -cation, but he served Neiman. His than would a. In cage fighting so many moments will ways for member. But now it's time to. Page here comes and may on the worldwide leader. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the program. What a great night. It has been New Year's is just like thirty minutes away. We're doing so many exciting things on the show. We have given out awards. We got special guests, it's the prestigious hell Wani knows awards. One of the great stories of twenty eight teen. My friends has been the rise of PF L there Naga real season. And they just wrapped it up and one of the faces of PF L has been Ray Cooper. We've been talking about Hawaiian fighters. Aleem? Elaine, McFarland doing big things max Holloway doing big things. Well, this was just moments ago at the Madison Square Garden theatre Ray Cooper, the third in the welterweight finale fighting for a million bucks. And look what happened here. Holy smokes. I'm actually watching this for the first time. Muggle med carry mov with the guillotine choke. What with the upset? I didn't even know that happened. I just witnessed this for the first time. Whoa. That is a big big shocker muggle men Magomed carry moths with the submission win other winters. Lance Palmer, Nathan Scholz, Sean O'Connell, Philippe, Lynn's all million dollar winners. Great night great year for PF. Oh, we branding from WF. Now, they are the professional league. And they just wrapped it up New Year's Eve in New York City a great year for them. And wow recoup. The third loses who we I didn't expect that Kayla. Harrison. Of course, we showed you highlight earlier this evening. So like, I said the new era is rapidly approaching. We are less than thirty minutes away from ESPN becoming the exclusive home of the alternate fighting championship here. Here's a quick preview of our debut card. January nineteenth. Champion champion. The king of the points. You might be looking at the one hundred thirty five pound fighter. Cdo give you wanna fight me. I'm coming. Title. Champion versus champion the. I'm coming. You. That's right. Live on ESPN, plus January nineteenth. It's champions champ. It's TJ Bill Shaw. Moving down from one thirty five to challenge. The reigning defending flyweight champion, Henry pseudo. Henry pseudo joins us right now, the recipient of the upset of the year. Ward a finalist for most improved could be a finalist for fighter of the year. The great Henry the messengers hudo on tap. He, of course, beats TJ those other other big names on that card as well. Donald Caroni versus outs Hernandez. We've got paid fans zen against Rachel awesome. Where's Henry there? He is. Wow. Look at that thing. Holy smokes. What does that snakeskin? Make everything is the year to skin the snake. I like it. I like it you like I love. Wow. That's is that real. That's real my. Not route January nineteenth. That's. Yes. And I think you may have and by the way, what a great nod that is, of course, TJ dillashaw nickname a lot of people calling him to stay. But but but congratulations on the upset of the year. You're mad at me for coach of the year. Right. Every little. We did enough captain, Eric. He's a team sport of coach. And you know, what let me ask you a question. What's hard to beat a chance to be the youngest history to the Olympics? And to beat the greatest of all time become Olympic you. Tell you. Favorite asked that. Okay. I will. Oh, hell sort of marinate on that one. I'm sorry for you. A little okay. You're going to get it. Hey, listen, keep that bitterness. And let's channel it into January nineteenth. Let's say Hello now to the man that you'll be facing on January nineteenth raining defending. You have see bantamweight champion T J dillashaw stopping by look at that TJ. How are you? Doing great. My man. How are you? Well, this is a lot of fun. We've got TJ on my left. We got Henry on my right? I don't know if you can see Henry TJ, but he's wearing a snakeskin jacket. Did you see that jacket? If so what do you make of it? I did the last guy I tried to wear snakeskin suit. Suit. So it's his turn next home on. Okay. Oh, wow. Easy t- too happy new year to you too. This is great. I love that. We could bring you guys together on New Year's Eve. I really appreciate both of you. Joining us Henry TJ the last time I spoke to him said that he has been called upon to come down to one twenty five and shut down the flyweight division. What is your response yet? Yeah. This same guy was trying to start getting paid more. I was saddened with the with the if you wanna call it the batter side. But that's his his plans are gonna come to one. And I love spoil slam. January nineteen TK you're gonna have your tell to the leggings. Do you know how to kill a snake? You're you're I don't you creek you gratified. You whip it on his head and that's fan who's happy. January nine is thinking to give the steak once and for all. He's never killed no snake. He's scared. Scared. Oh, yeah. Very very. Yeah. How how's that? Wait could coming. Yes. I wanted to ask you about. How is it? It's actually schedule quite enjoyable on lean and mean and feel great man, the lightest strongest ever been exciting stuff. It's exciting to cho- to sessional get in there and stream. Nice. I can't help. But notice you're right. I teach what happened there. Onto escape from zoo and punching right? You you went to you went to the messenger. You five you can have two black eyes. I don't think you've ever seen. Anybody black guy? Let me show you by going. You have that. You would never beat the. You don't have that. You have these nets. You have you go the golden ROY jacking? Exactly. Nineteen. Already. Close. Okay. January. You know, what's coming? I'm gonna make the flight with division. Great again. And you're gonna be by except thank you very much. Okay. Feel hurting. Go ahead. Teach. It are you done. All right. Oh, I'm gonna get in on the nineteenth destroy this door. You look around himself on itself in the third person carrying his belt everywhere seen a picture of him. Got his belt calling. You like take take take. Take on the mass. Let the lacy being the best ever. You're just happy about. And that's the and that, and that's exactly who I have you know, and. I am the truth. This okay. Another Ponant just another random opponent. And I'm gonna show you you're cleaning is going to get the hell, orange frown. I'm the Reno. This guy meant he's you know, I don't even have a belt in my house right now because I don't I don't use show it off. I let my friend seventy year old show varroa first birthday because he's my biggest fan son about the. What you'll never. You're not used never beat somebody like he'd never ever. Filming champion. Carping never going to be a champion. Mansard. Shining resume that belt for new job. Fair. Recipe. Year to skin the snake starts now. I'm excited to use the Borys fighter the roster. Once you does your boring and people. You going to be out you try to not kaN all that ankle sleep. During your fights. People are gonna be glued to the TV to watch. The puts you to sleep in in. I'm going to show you really wrestling's bound Beatriz your own game. All I see that's all buy ins. But dude, if you think I'll give you the if we didn't take me down. I can tell I'll tell you. You wanna fight? That's com. Win beat is only that go mentally five. As he. A teacher can't be J P J dillashaw gang bang team. This is coming for this might be my favorite interview of all time because I haven't had to say a word. This is amazing kudos the both of you. I just want. I just want to reiterate what Henry just said if TJ dillashaw takes him down. Once he is going to call off the fight. He's going to wave it off. Is that accurate? Henry why not why not? I am the meets Johnson. Like, everybody got smelly gave a hundred percent little shot. That's high school junior high bullcrap, and I know you're not going there. But I dare you to identity. TJ? How do you beat him on January nineteen? What's your prediction? How did you get it done? That's the greatest thing is. I'm a true may find I'll everywhere this guy is one thing at a time not worried about the most boring. Lease like, he's got nothing nothing to threaten me with. That's his. That's your area of the area. That's his best comeback that is for side. Wait more than with you. Every. You lost dominate you also that but January nineteen listening that nature ten pounds. Fly. Will you find a true athlete and giving get Henry, what's your prediction? Condition. Learn how are we gonna win this fight? It's talking to here. Just how I l spotted if you should Johnson I'm gonna outsmart teaches you didn't win. Were the less. They. We have a particular. We have some little bit of rat. DJ dairy nineteen is going to happen aerial not blink be quick. Shotty one one thing he thinks he's a big shot. All sudden, that'd be quit. It'd be good guys. I wish I could do this for another hour. And fortunately, we were at a time. This is television after all we have run out of time. But wow, amazing stuff. I can't thank you both enough. I cannot wait. If you were not looking forward to January nineteenth at Brooklyn. I think you're looking forward to it. Now. Thank you very much TJ dillashaw. Thank you very much. Henry who January nineteenth Brooklyn New York? Barclays center, the very first UFC on ESPN plus card there you see the lineup. Six to eight on ESPN plus sign up right now. Eight ten on ESPN history will be made. And then at ten PM. It's Henry of hoodoo versus T J dillashaw on ESPN, plus an additional that pre and post show on ESPN. Plus can't wait. Holy moly. I didn't expect that at both them. But not that kind of bad. But wow. All right. That's January nineteenth but still to come one of the most prestigious awards that we're going to give out tonight. The male fighter of the year. Is that these see the double channel is it? Habib his team or is it the breakout fighter the year Israel to send you a we shall reveal that answer still to come. Don't go anywhere. Eighteen arguably, the most prestigious award in the sport, Dino, Cormie, what are your was the double champ comes back against volcanoes? Mir comes back and makes history against meal, and then he makes history by being the first bent to defend two titles in the same year, two different titles in two different ways classes against their clueless. MSG look at that smile, so happy Daniel Cormie was back in New York City to built and in our hearts, you can say he is still the double champ anyhow more on that later made up another finalist for fighter of the year. What a win over ally Quinta the Brooklyn gangster, and then he comes back in October. And he successfully defenses lightweight title against one Conor McGregor. UFC two twenty nine the eagle has landed. He is the champ at one hundred and fifty five pounds can't wait to see him back in there. And of course, still undefeated and then. We have the last style bender Israel out of Sonya foreign oh in twenty eighteen headlining against Brad Varas what a win at MSG against Derek Brunson. We what a year for Israel Sonya? What? The winner is that man the captain at the American kickboxing academy. The men who retained the light heavyweight title in January who won the heavyweight title in July. And then successfully defended that built in November the one and only DC Daniel is our male fighter of the year. My man these see we have been doing shows for a long time. Many interviews we've never done it on TV before. Congratulations. What's so funny? It's the Hawaii knows the war. My man you did it. Crazy. I mean from the apple store, e as B M, the worldwide leader, I cannot believe this. Food food degrade arterial hall used to say, yes. Oh, we did. It dreams. Come true. What? Thank you, my friend. What are your for you? Unbelievable. Your the fighter of the year to do that at thirty nine. I still can't get the image at my head in Anaheim, you crying on national television to rebound from that. And to not only just like winsome fights. But to make history and win the heavyweight title. Sisley defended come on. You couldn't have predicted this, right? I couldn't I'm really trying to like, oh there it is. I was looking at myself trying to get the camera. Right. You know, I wasn't doing too. But no, I couldn't have thought that this year would be what it was especially after last year, you know, that my lowest point ever when I lost a Jones in Anaheim, especially getting finished. I've never been finished had never truly been heard that point two five and four to let my emotions out and really finished two thousand seventeen with a lot of question marks not knowing exactly what what was going to have to inform this year to turn out has has been truly amazing. I mean, the fending two bills two different weight classes winning titles of just being active. It was it is truly been the year of my dreams for those that I've been following your life story your career. You have always been second. Place. You have always suffered. Heartbreak you've been successful up until when it really mattered when you can be called champion in this year to do what you did at thirty nine. How do you explain this like how does it happen? This way. This is the stuff that that like movie writer skip writers directors. They can't even dream of this area. I'm only said that in order to be able to be no spot right in the NCW finals would kill standards than losing in the Olympic final and the bronze medal Matt to get great. Rapids lose Jones white. These opportunities. I have earned, but I never earned that that bright moment that one shining moment widens, and that's the top the world, even as the US light-heavyweight ten for three and a half years area right now, I have the second longest light heavyweight championship reign of all time the John j-o-h-n even that since I'm second. But even in that long title wings, third Fulmer thirteen hundred days. There was always that shadow but not in a meal knocking out the most successful at Tampa. Wall time finally allowed me to step out on my own and truly be the man and the all of my accomplishments have kind of been second to that moment in July and in November thirty New York. Okay. So we have to address the elephant in the room as of this moment, technically officially you're no longer a double champ. You are no longer. The light heavyweight champion you voluntarily relinquished the belt on Friday morning and afterwards, you have see president Dana white said that you were being a little more dramatic too dramatic. Why did you do that? And how do you feel now seeing your rival holding the title that you once owned? You know, I did it because you know, for me, and I've always said his legacy matters. And when I look back on my legacy. I don't want it to say Daniel Cormie was stripped on December twenty eighth or whatever day was that those guys fought two thousand eighteen for them. I wanted to say Daniel Cormie vacated the belt stepped aside because when you're stripped of a championship in may, it feels like the person did something wrong, right guy. That have been stripped have been strip for ROY way, back in debt dot net got steroids. Jones been stripped because of the things that he had done wrong. Connor was stripped for inactivity. It's only been something negative in in. I didn't do anything to get the Bill take it from me. So I wanted to be on my own terms watching Joel built really doesn't do anything anymore. You know, he's a guy that kind of says things in doesn't. Necessarily think Bruce Lee Cormie was never light heavyweight champion. But he also said the same breath. I'm here coming get your belt back. So I was. You don't. You obviously did something yet doesn't nothing to me. I'm the king now time to change. So you continue to say you're going to retire in March. Honestly, how can you walk away from not doing that fight of time? It has to happen. Are you? It has to happen for me, not so much. But if it does not chasing this guy anymore. You know, I'm I'm not going to allow my career to hinge on the actions of guy that I thought twice and lost. But every time I've I've lost. There's been some issues in regards to the fight still. I know what I've done. I know where I stand in in the history of sport. And I'm okay with whatever happens one into the next year, you know. I was very sad. Fasten the fact that I was going to be done in March. I will lined up to March second in that would be fair world by got some injuries right now that that I've been dealing with. And I don't know that going to be the reason I may have to push things back. But we'll see, you know. I'm very open to everything right now. You know, Ariel. I've always imposed deadline myself. Nobody's walking me out the door. You know became having. We jam six months ago. So I flew down. But I know that there's some other things in my life that I wanna do. All right. We'll see what happens TC congratulations on a phenomenal year, the two thousand eighteen how Lonnie knows I mean you'd want. So many words you've done it all but to win this one on ESPN two this evening New Year's Eve while I can't imagine the emotions going through your body. Yes. Final word quick. I'm holding back here old back with peers, but Ariel did know as much as I love that. And I give my nice tiny feed summer two thousand nineteen. It may take it may be a little more important in the hell work. But maybe I'll take you as my date, those does that would be it's all in the family. I appreciate that the SP. It would be well deserve DC. Thank you so much. Congratulations on a great year and all the best to you and your family in twenty nineteen. All right there. He is the man himself DC the double champion was now the heavyweight champion. It is almost midnight. We are running out of time. Look at that four minutes ago. The celebration is going strong for the brand new era and makes martial-arts UFC on his kin. We've got one more block here we come. Creek look at us. Now. My man incredible. We did it. We did it. Happy new year. Happy new year, my friend. Have you enjoyed the show? It has been tremendous. Getting my my experience in the back there on live TV. Yes, I am getting almost just seen you wearing a Jackie O. No, no. While you're on Television, New era. Peon UFC coming together. January nineteenth you've got all the cards. What are you looking forward to my man? I am looking forward to we just heard from Daniel looking forward to DC versus John Jones opening in the new year at that clock. But over there. Oh, boy, it's happening. My man, it's happening. The new era is upon us. I can't thank everyone enough. Thank you so much for joining us on this special edition of the program. I can't thank everyone at ESPN enough for this opportunity this massive honor. We are ten seconds away from the brand new era commencing UFC on ESPN. It's star. Arts right now. Happy new year everyone. Coming up on this episode of UFC men event, we take you back to the beginnings of the biggest fight in US history. As undefeated lightweight champion. Habib Nurmamedov faces to division champ Conor McGregor. While the beads confidence record and skills made him a UFC fan favorite. His opponent was a mainstream superstar as their matchup went from idea phase to schedule main event the rivalry between the two athletes became deeply personal with each common. Amplified by the media outlets that followed mcgregor's every move. So before we replay their ultimate showdown. We walk you through the road that broad Connor and Habib to their UFC main event. By late twenty sixteen. Conor McGregor achieved what no fighter before ever have history-making performance by Conor McGregor with his lifelong dream. No conquer. Simultaneously reigned over two divisions in the UFC and the world anxiously awaited for the double cham- to announce what was next Edith made history and featherweight champion that lightly champ. Where do we go from here? But we so. I need to take myself in this bubble for a second. And just regroup for a twenty eight year old on top of the game. At all the bells all the money all number. Overly no, more on just going go for banjo to have a to be. And that's we'll see when I see. It was immediately clear that McGregor would proceed on his own terms. And the king of combat sports was ready to cash in. Conor McGregor and Floyd Mayweather going. Wanted to in this fight. I didn't believe this could be made. We are one of the greatest tacticians of any era and forty nine and don't get hard a fight to fight. I stay ready to fight record time ready now. Should've all kept show. He should've left me over on that game that I'm from this game will be balanced has the condos and grilled. Flow that everybody wanted. We're liberty. You see boxing Floyd, Connor? It's gonna make a lot of money for. She was an honor for me come over here in the bumps inside and showcase my skin. See what's next? I can't tell you. Exactly. What's next with? With some movie next. No. Could be made. Whether she a warning to you fan that doesn't hear anyone what do you say to Floyd Mayweather? I am deployed minimum. Male. With me you come for money. I come for league champion go back to. Mcgregor's height is from MA would continue well beyond his boxing endeavor. But he would maintain his position as reigning UFC lightweight champion. I lost melty lake never defend your belt. Someone to fight fulls. I could build in years to life with division. Two more lot of changing levels a lot of changing levels. Continue doing that. Here the fight with hub, even Connor. I I didn't really think much about it until you know, Connor became a lightweight. Then it became the champion. Still when you punch always the movement, then it became non existent. Yes. Guys, we see like they've become because with the gold come money come attention in a lot of stuff. Plenty of other opportunity him it some whiskey things sponsorships, and he's just got a lot of things going on. Was he sees back with that kind of money on my never come that. He's books is. His his glitches state in books. He says come back. But. Somebody. Monte shift to keep winning. You can build. Wings to see what happens with McGregor. Really? The pressures relentless and the helpless in the pace is just sure big shots by beam. Made Steve the course and I'll be right back on undeterred by down and steadfast in his lifelong pursuit round found nasty conscious top could be meaning proficiently have seek seven team fights. And I think okay, I can resting. I can I can striking full. I'm gonna follow. My he's getting mauled Barbosa space says it all he's overwhelmed here, I have more than everybody, even my soul. Even my soul. They're gonna give me I've got a war. Good. Twenty seventeen marked the first year of his UFC career that Conor McGregor did not appear inside the octagon. And by the following spring that his return dates, still unknown. The divisions interim champion Tony. Ferguson would meet Habib never go made off to determine the new owner of mcgregor's undisputed championship belt. The fight was set for April seventh in Brooklyn, New York. But before the UFC been touched down in the Empire State. Companies most chaotic bye week in history encountered the first of many hurdles this. Job twenty five he's injury. But the beautiful thing about this fort the stud hundred forty five pound champion, max Holloway is gonna step up phase Khabib this Saturday in Brooklyn New York in this for the official hundred and fifty five pound title. Mcgregor's presence loomed large over an event defined by the stripping of his belt with any of the bounced around the Alvarez any other guys I say fill up shopping. Okay. Twenty Palau who's champion. They call him trip of brings to listen all day number called they called. They call him ready connects. Connect. If you champion defend your all these guys when I'm reading them when I have injured something like this before they too much. Now, I'm here where you guys only Marx rollaway show up. He called himself is champion his king. King in jungle. Only one I'm gonna take this build. I'm gonna show my numbers eight into six undisputed and undefeated champion. Club. The winner would seem to line up with Han McGregor later this year. You had union this'll discussed with him. Is he interested in fighting the win this fight coming back this year? One hundred percent he will fight this year beyond this thing play out, and we'll go from there. These quantum graded easily guns on Saturday. I know. Be here on this. Obviously a fight that that is very important to him. And you'll get featured office Connor was here. With him. The bank. A chair through our widow of our bus. Sorry, guys. Okay. Everybody else those okay? He knows like now. Of course, we can. Forget. This shit announce where some school. You up to that time. Blue boy Mista trouble on this. They give him. This guy is going wrong. He's going through four. He's injuring other fighters the cancelled due to the McGregor bus incident. This never happened. Obviously everybody should make up. Regroup and get through this fight on Saturday. There's worn out for Connor McGregor. We heard arda might have been in that group of people. You know are off the card on. Fight chill. I give you slip with for you. These these these top that even more drama you have twenty three max Holloway. He was declared medically in eligible the ultimate fighting championship. The show must always go on ally. Went to step up here on short notice with an opportunity to change his life forever. Replacement was found for be dominated all the same. Stay. Away out that up just feet though questions for how long that law. Get mauled like everybody else before it's a terrifying thing. How much would you love to be a fly on the wall watching Conor McGregor watch out? Has been. As yours. Conor mcgregor? UFC lightweight championship. Was now around the waist of his nemesis Clinton guy. He come here. His doing his bus. I wanna real Gunston.

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JRE MMA Show #59 with Kamaru Usman

The Joe Rogan Experience

2:55:02 hr | 1 year ago

JRE MMA Show #59 with Kamaru Usman

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He's a really interesting intelligent fascinating guy with an incredibly inspirational story, and I really love talking to him. So please give it up for Kamara use mine. The Joe Rogan experience joy. Podcast. We're live. What's up? Warren was Joe do your roller coaster ride. Was it like to be the champ? What's feeling like this is fresh for you? Oh, first of all, I just want to say man, it's such an honor to be here. The honors mind. I never I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest. I'm my things. I'm just seeing one percent totally transparent. I was never I never really watched the show. I never really kinda heard of the show. Of course. I heard you. And all things I'm like. Oh, yeah. Fear factor guy, and all, but I never really heard of the show until like after a fight or two and the UFC and people are like tagging me and shit. Like Joe Rogan's talking by Jurong talked about you and pocket. I'm like fucking podcast because I never listened to Pakistan. It sounds like what are you talking about till? I finally started listening. Oh, this dude is for real this do got some some some pool you got some people watching this shit random people would tag me Joe was talking about you today on the podcast. I'm my man this guy's for real. And then every time after that that I see you. I'm like Joan. Yeah. We've been talking about you for a long time. And we were just with your friend out there. We're watching a video of us talking about you back when you were ranked number twelfth. And I was saying I think you can fight for the title right now. And I I like to test it too. I think 'cause I went back once I started kind of researching I like to go back newly research, and I'm like fucking Joe's been with this. This sport for the beginning. Like, you were in the back with hair. Hit here. The hair freaking interview in the guys that will do during the tournament that we're finding multiple fights and nine and you were interviewing those guys, and I was like even back there Joe has skills. Joe's Abe's interview, these guys. There was no shaken behind it. Because I you know, one thing about me I've gotten into com- commentating and things like that now. And I'm like dang Joe. He didn't seem nervous you just like a freaking natural at it. And the sport was just growing at that time. Zoli watching back, then it wasn't as much pressure. You know, it wasn't like coming into today. Yeah. ESPN pay per view all that deal. It would be a lot of pressure but back then it was just fun. Yeah. It was. It was weird man. The first one I did was in dothan Alabama in this weird. Like, I don't know if it was a high school gym or something some small auditorium tiny little place. It was very weird. They have you made it look like a freaking certain little walk in the park. I mean, it was like damn show was good at the Joan men doing this ship for a while. Well, it's a it's an interesting thing to see the see progress from nineteen Ninety-seven to where it's out of two thousand nineteen. The biggest difference is not just the mount of is it against the amount of people that are paying attention to the real difference is the level of athlete. It's a it's a giant giant leap like, no other sport. I don't think there's another sport from nineteen ninety three to two thousand nineteen where the athletes are almost. It's almost unrecognizable how much better the fighters are. As lilly. You know, it's now back in the day was like, okay. You finished your college career finished. All this. You've got to the height of whatever sport, you could be let's start fighting. And so guys will coming in twenty eight twenty seven starting to learn the tricks now, you've got freaking ten-year-old kids. Yup. Sparring? Yeah. There's all these crazy videos like little bitty kids fighting in like Russia or other places like their full on 'em. Emma may fight. Yeah. To totally I hope promotion on my man by the time. These guys get to sixteen seventeen they're gonna be killers. Yeah. If you go back and watch like a boxing match from like ninety three a world champion boxer like Marvin Hagler perfect example Marvin Hagler from the eighties. Could absolutely hang with middleweights. Like, he's he would fit right in with world champions today. Absolutely. But a UFC champ from ninety three. I mean, it's just not the same. It's not by any stretch. It's it is such a. Back. Then it was like a it was wild is crazy, but nobody had endurance. And you know, there was a few guys that had some skill and certainly or Orlando via voice Gracie. There was guys are really good at their individual arts. But there was no real complete fighters. Yeah. Yeah. You got the transition because it was everyone came in with their special skills. Now that was a big thing. I think you'll see even sold that as all. Yeah. You got the wrestler fire. Calm the combo the, you know, Sombo guy in the jitsu guy. And so that was thing everyone came in with their one skill and they put into the tests to see better is frigging crazy Joe. My first fight for time. I ever watched a UFC fight. I was visiting John Jones in college freshman year. This was our freshman year. True freshman year, I was visited him 'cause I went to a small school in William Penn university, which is about two hours away from him. He. Was at Iowa central in fort dodge, Iowa. So I went to go spend my fall break a whole week with him just hanging out because we had met the previous year in high school in just Inose two brothers. Wrestling was like, hey, two brothers up. Something you going to school lectures? Like, I'm b-. I was like show me to as we kept in touch, and I want him to hang out with him. And during that week, I was a fight on. So like, a friend of the team something like that invited us to come to his house and watch it. And we went over there to watch the fights. I never really heard of it. I never really cared. I was freshman and trying to hang out with John and this was two thousand and five thousand five so it was like first season of the ultimate fighter. Yeah. Two thousand five. So we go think you might have been Randy tower somewhat John reminding, but I forgot who's fighting. And we went to the house party and watched it. I really didn't really remember the fight. I because I didn't really care. I never paid attention to it. I never thought I would. Ever do something like that. So I just watched it. And and then I remember the guy's saying, hey, man, you guys can do this. Once you guys try this. And I mean, John looked at each Illinois in the way, we're going to do that. Wrestling is controlled you know, the rules. We, you know, certain things you can or can't do there's no way we're doing that. So we kinda laughed at often and left that day never knew that freaking years later. I'll be doing this doing doing it. You dethrone the guy who many people, including me were saying as a very good argument for the best to whatever I felt like Tyronn is like you gotta give it. There's like to this legendary status, right? There's like Matt Hughes has legendary status for being the original. He was one of the first wrestlers who really knew how to submit guys. And then George saint-pierre was of course, many people's is the greatest of all time in the welterweight division went on this long run. But I was like man when you if tyrant beats use Manos like there's a real good argument for him being number one of all time beaten wonderboy beat smashing Darren tail beaten, Damian Mayan knocking out Robbie Laura to win the title. Absolutely. I considered him. I put him in that commerce. Yeah. He's in that conversation for sure for sure I put him in that conversation. I you know, nothing but respect for tire. And it was nice to see afterwards. It was there's a video of you, and tyrants, mom, and tyrant interns. Mom after is a beautiful video. Yeah. Man. It's a Jerker I freak in. I let it go. Because I'm one of those guys I never really sit and stop and smell the roses and things like that always always have a chip on my shoulder. And I'll explain why it is. But I always had this chip on my shoulder with everything that I do. So I never really sit. And celebrate and say, oh, yeah. -ccomplish this. I did that or did that. But I know I known his mom I met her previously to to that the fights I fought in Saint Louis one time. And of course, I'd seen her several times his fights. But I'll fighting in Saint Louis, and I was there early. And she was at the hotel tire was. Finding or anything, but she just came to the hotel. I think she was just hanging out. And I got to sit with her before like all the fighters even came into town. I had to sit with her. I think we sat for a couple of hours, maybe three four hours just talking. I got to know her, and she's she used you such an angel. But at the same time, she's she's a gash the to like, you you can't you know, she she was everything and. The only thing the biggest thing I could compare to his if you ever seen that show for way bags called touched by an angel. And I forget what her name is using the famous black actress, and do you remember that woman? Go get her name wasn't my Angelou. It was no I wasn't my Angela. It was that. I mean, she's my Angeles status big as she was and is perations, but that's kind of what I compare her to. And so we got we got, you know, I knew her and Tyrone obviously wasn't who I would have chosen to take the belt from. But is how long can you hold yourself back because being a there's a huge entire incentive self? There's a huge difference between a challenge in champion. And of course, I need a needed to have my family in that argument. I I need I need to get them to that status to where. Now, I'm set in my daughter of them, setting unite my everyone for you know, life better life forever, and I couldn't continue to hold that bag. So yeah, it was unfortunate that I had to take that from him. And I kind of an essense felt like I was taking away from what he was doing for them. So when I saw her walking backstage, I just couldn't control. I just let. I just let go, and I just can't help but cry on her shoulders disagree. It's a great video. What is your name was women's actresses Roma? Downey rome. That's the videos amazing because she's hugging you and she's telling you, congratulations. She's telling you, they're calm. They're going to be coming for you so train hard. Yeah. And just like her attitude, man. It's it's beautiful, man. It's some it's amazing her character that she handled that I mean, this is her baby her baby lost and lost every round. And it was a, you know, pretty dominant victory by you. And for her to treat you that way afterwards. Two shows amazing character. Yeah. And it serta's right here. See up here. Look at her. She's embraces you open arms. It's all good. It's all good baby. Look at that. Mazing? That's an amazing woman right there. He helped the CoCo flavors. You take it to all good. Wow. That's amazing man and even tyrant away tire. And it's crazy, right? It makes me cry something in the air over here. Go. I got I got to maybe cry when I saw it's making me cry now. Yeah. Man, in the way, she treated tyrant to the same thing. I mean, she's just that's and that's that's that's how my mom is to that. So I felt such a connection to that to her because my mom is exact same way. My momma done the same thing to tyrant and it just it was powerful, man. It was moving because it's. And he goes to test. How how the sport has how bay the sport is as well. Yeah. Like, it's not all man. It's just a regular fire. You guys hate each other. And you're fighting no this was a competition. You know, this is two men that went in there to for competition and one guy one, and you know, you saw the aftermath the family receive each other people love the man they love when people put all that bullshit aside. I mean, you guys had a lot of trash talk at the press conferences. And there was a lot of that going. But that sells tickets, and it's good for everybody, and it's natural and normal. But after it was over it was nothing, but respect, and it's what a lot of people think is wrong about the trash talk of this era because there's there's an era right now. Right. We're in the trash talk era. Absolute some people are really good at it. And some people are terrible at it. But it seems like everybody's trying. Mas Vidal re recently when he just beat Darren till. It was very interesting because, you know, his take on it before the fight was why am I why trash talk. What are we doing? What why we're gonna fight? Like, what does all this bullshit about? Like, he doesn't like it. He was like I don't like where this is going. I don't like where the sport is going. I mean, it was it's one of those things that I had to adjust to because I wasn't brought on those principles. I don't I'm not, you know, you're out of here. Yeah. Wasn't here for a salesman. Like people ask me all the time. What do you do this? And I chose to do this. Like, I'm college educated. I can get it fucking job and sitting in office and punch numbers and all that. But I chose to do this because of my burning desire to compete. That's a when I even now when I compete with guys I'm not competing angry. I don't want to kill this guy. I'm not Roure Iran, all that shit knows competition for me, my mind is I'm gonna be you, and which is partially which would goes to test with the how I fight and how I compete. I'm not like that. This is not the only thing that I can do. And so this era came about we're now everybody, you gotta talk shared you. Gotta sale you gotta do this and do that. And so do you feel any pressure to do that? Initially. I some point. I did because it was. I was fighting the way I was fighting. I was dominating guys. And I was getting nowhere. It was like notoriety. They were kinda like just kind of put you on the wayside. They would always tell them or you get a top ten guy. You'll get a top thing. Yeah. But they wouldn't happen. It was like, oh, you you fight this guy. And you can't really argue with them because this promotion is giving you the opportunity to even really make money at all for the career path that you've chose. So for four awhile. I just felt like man, this is not I guess, I just got to do this. Because you saw it. The other clown Covington he had to do that. He absolutely had nothing has changed with the way that he fights. He's done the exact same thing since he's been in the UFC. But after the first couple of fighting the one game shit. So he felt you know, what not I'm just going to have to start doing this where everyone knows it's fake, right? Because he just one day woke up and started doing it. And that's that's the thing. Now, you have to do people try to say you have to do that. But for me is what I'm not going to do is. I'm not going to just sell my soul. Just. Oh, yeah. I'm just trying to earn a couple of bucks because I'm not gonna do that. I'm going to do it the right way. George. Did it the right win? An I I'm a firm believer that when you do it the right way, you will earn what you deserve. It will come to you at some point. I don't think that you have to a really don't he has. So I mean Kobe Covington does because I do he. Each show a big like you've got to give it to him. He did beat those on Joe's. That was a big victory. He did beat Damian. My that was a big victory. Those are two legit victories over two very dangerous guys. He did beat those ASO. He's got skill on top of the trash talking. But the trash talk in bombed him ahead of you in line. And a lot of us were surprised. How surprised me that he had he had to do it? And I I mean it's gotten him where he yes. And I mean, look what he did lie two weeks ago when I fought his whole is whole deal with me to create an uproar at my name back in the picture, and he did a wonderful job. This is one thing that I will. I will I would say that he has done a wonderful job at having people talk about whether you hate him which and even the bosses have said this as axiom thing is no one has done what he's done. No one has ever created the persona that is unanimously. Hated worldwide like unanimously, there's not even he'll like literally like those guys they still had fans, you know, wanted to see him succeed. Like, nobody likes is not safe anywhere. No. You know, you don't even have to be there's flyweights that wanna hurt this guy. So as unanimously has he's done a good job of creating that which I love, and I appreciate that. It's going to sell a lot of paper. Yeah. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater like I give credit where Credit's due. I appreciate the fact that he has done, and that's one they never shot taught me over the years. Is you have to appreciate certain things. And I do always wanted this moment. I always wanted that Connor and could be that that that adversary that Rashad and rampage that Hughes an enjoyed Saint Pierre. Like, I always wanted that. And and he's done a good job of creating that. So you not just an adversary in terms of like a legitimate worthy opponent. But a dude that you wanna fuck up to have some. I mean, I haven't I haven't been in a fight yet where it was like a militias like I was maliciously trying to hurt someone. Right. I I haven't been enough. I yes, I don't. That's the thing mommy's mic. My mind. My mind is strong. I don't compete trying to kill this guy. And then you swing five punches you miss now. You're dead tired. I don't compete like that this one I'm still going to compete as myself, but there's going to be a little extra on by these these elbows. Now, I'm going to fillet your face with a little longer cuts. I'm trying this one is going to be one that I I really enjoy. Well, there was the same with could be even Connor what he said I want to change your face. Yes. When he said that it was like, Dan, that's deep and change your face. And you saw that even when he was like that is comp-. He was never out of character. And could be never was like. Oh, yeah. I'm just going to go out there and try to kill this guy running. There's a certain level. There's a certain mentality. Certain fighters have to have and could be another guy that I've seen. That competes similarly to the way that I do as far as his mind where it's like, I don't give a shit. What you do talk about me. Do all this try to distract me. Like, they tried me. This Lena to the tire fight. They did everything what are you going to do? And then you had his his little psychic that looked like sideshow. Bob that was was talking in doing is trying to distract me this and then Colby popped up trying to distract me. Dad didn't change anything. That's gonna do. Nothing to me like my mind is own competing. I'm going to compete to the best of my abilities. And I'm going to embarrass you. And then this guy is going to be even more worth the big change in your skills from your first fight new of C to now as you striking your wrestling's always been outstanding. You cardio's always been excellent. But you're striking is much more fluid and much looser. Your you you're much more efficient. Now, he was you're always powerful. But it seems like now everything's phoned together. Like, you don't have any holes in your game any. Thing. Yeah. Joe I've been with my been with my same team since the start the same guys that I've been with you Glen Robinson started arch him. Fortunately, he passed away. You know rest in peace Glenn. When did he know he died last year? Yeah. He died last year. Or did I yeah. He had a heart attack, man. And it's it was sad. I couldn't really believe that it happened. You know, but it did. And I'll I'd say he's in a better place, you know, but he passed it. He was he started all this in him. And Rashad Evans Rashad needed a new place when he was leaving Jackson's in, and Glenn Wisconsin like they they got together and decided to to start this. And it's a Rashad Evans at the top of the game who doesn't want to train with Rashad Evans. Right. And so it kind of spread like wildfire to where everyone started going down there. But yeah, I I've been with the same guy Henry who've just came down at that time and roof was a striking coach a meal with him since. You know, phenomenal coach to amazing coach such a good striking coach, those Dutch fundamentals got down. Yeah. And a lot of you know, there's I've seen a lot of different coaches different styles. I don't know. I like I like a lot of different things. But the day with Henry is he's he's very basic because at the end of the day when you're fucking tired. And you can't even hold your arms up and do certain things you're just gonna do basic regular ship jab to one two that's what you're gonna do. Now. He's in. He's simple stupid. He's very like that. He keeps it simple. And that was the way for me to learn it is just from the from the bottom up. I just I learned it. Now. I don't get it wrong. Joe? I can do some of that cool shit like in practice. I'll do cartwheel kicks. I'll do the all that cooler shifts that reverse lewke frontside side taekwondo kick. I can try. Do you think ever about like moments in fights? There are moments in fights where a fighter will do something about the best example is Chris wideman versus Luke rock old. Chris wideman tries his wheel kick out of nowhere. And he misses with it. Luke gets a hold of him drags him to and beats shit out of him. And it was a relief has a nasty top game. His top game is crushing. And he just he just Ruth was ground and pound, and it changed the course of Chris's career in a lot of ways that beating when on. I mean, he lost the title. And then he lost other fights afterwards. But before that he was dominated he'd beaten Anderson twice crush veto war. He was a different thing. And that there's these moments is pivotal moments in fights when someone just try something. I mean, most of the time you just get away with it. Yeah. But sometimes like in that is my go-to when I tell people don't try some shit. That's not your thing. This is the best example, Chris y. Edmon throwing that wheel kick against Luke. Rocco yet you got to and that's part of everything that's grouped in with fight IQ. You have to be able to assess risk reward in certain things like that. And that that's kind of at some point. It was a knock on me is like all this guy. Never gets out of position. He never does any other cool sharing or any of that? You know, it was kind of giving you that knock fucking people. Come Joe, I listen he saying? Perfect. Yeah. Like, I was saying longtime ago is like this guy's not fucking up keeps running through guys. And he's beaten guys like a world champion already. Yeah. A lot of people always kind of you know, like, oh, you didn't do all this not doing all that. But the thing with me is is being able to assess when when I can do that. When when I I can't do that like when I fought through a frequent acts kick in the fifth round. Right. You know? And I was I practice sat in practice. I catch guys with it all the time. And it's just being able to assess you. Yeah. I knew that they was this is an opportunity for me to start letting go, and so I started letting go, and I mean RDA's it tough tough, dude. Very tough tough. Do he's a three yard head. He seems like he's a Twitter to me. Like, he's not quite a one seventy. I mean, he could beat a lot of guys on seventy. But it's almost like you should be like one sixty or one five. Yeah. The one fifty five is too hard of a cut form these days. Yeah. But that's that's just that's the nature. Yeah. Because if we if we started saying, okay, we're gonna accommodate everybody. It's never gonna stop. Do you think there should be more way? Classes. Well, you know, seventy works for you. I still hard cut. Not that one ninety one. One eighty one eighty eight to one ninety believe it or not like for most people that are listening to this. That's on the light side. Yeah. No, absolutely. No it is. But the thing is I'm so neat. And I'm on eighty I'm walking around below six percent hoodoo while who do you use to to for Whitcombe for the last couple of fights man, I've been working with Clint Clint Whittenberg up at a p I n trifecta. Yeah. And try Clint a lot. Yeah. And clinton. Trifecta food system traffic, essentially, you know, the meal delivery mill prep style. Okay. And then they do a phenomenal job phenomenal. And Clint the reason I chose to go with him is I've always done it myself. I like to cook. I cook for myself. I always you know, when all those fights earlier fights in a UFC every one of my fights. I was in charge Marlin diet, I cook for myself. I do this because I've done it. So many years in wrestling all the wrong way. I can look at myself. I can wake up in the morning look myself in the mirror and tell how much way and I'll be right on just because I'm so used to my body. So I know what I can't I can't eat what what can hold food or could hold water. And it's just it's a disciplined thing for me as well. And so I saw decided you know, what I'm getting higher up. Now one thing that I don't understand is that I haven't done the research is what foods to eat before certain practice at certain times to fuel. Meet the best to make me help help me. Feel the best because I'm getting older and things aren't the same. They the way the I'm thirty one. And I'm thirty two in may. And I'm like man, I just don't differences of you notice a lot of difference like twenty four I just fucking wake up at six AM, and I can go for free and five mile run like that with nothing now. I can't do that anymore. Do you think that is age or do you think that is miles like all the and come it's a combination because thirty one you're in your athletic prime? Yeah. It's a combination of both. 'cause in wrestling years. I I gotta be late forties. Wrestling years. I'm late force. I mean back is shot. My you know, my shoulders are shot. My my knees. Oh my God. My knees I've had five knee surgeries Jesus Christ. Yeah. So you limping did you have one recently? I just had surgery actually had surgery on Tuesday. That's a threat a double hernia Jesus. So did you fight with a double hernia? I tore it before like five weeks before the fight. And but I don't know if it was completely off you had a hernia end a broken foot. Yeah. Fucking crazy. The funny thing is an Ali makes fun of me about this manager is like all fight week. Like, if you saw me, you would think this guy was like a zombie. Like, I limp around. I frigging game patches on me, and I'm in a boot or or sleeve and an all I do all days. I go do the media rounds or whatever I need to do training come back, and I'm just in my room. Either game ready on me or something on me. But when I walked through that door to fight the nine June nightmare wakes up, I flip the switch and a lot of people would would they go back and look at video of when I walk into the cage. I accept right before the cage, I presume went prayer for protection. And when I walk in. I just freaking donor. If it's a flip. That's a prayer that you say every time. Yeah. It was the exact same thing. Yeah. What do you say similar along those lines? I basically just a prayer for protection prayer for me to be able to display the best of my abilities. It's never I because I'm not selfish. It's not I'm not getting in that prayer, please. Let me win. No. It's please protect me in here. So I can go back to my family safe and sound and protect my opponent as well. And give me the strength to be able to display the best of my abilities. And that's it. And once I freak and walk through the door. I'm the frigging year nightmare. I just feel like a different person. I am. I am. And you in my face. I'm good and Danny? But when I walk in it goes away. I've I just I transform into that person. Yeah. I think a lot of people would be surprised at how friendly and easy going. You are outside people can't tell and that's the thing. Now is this really I haven't I there's no change in me. I'm still the same freaking guy since I haven't done anything since if I nothing people like asking me have you gone party in this now with the bell not have. He's. I know my daughter I bought it for my daughter. But I didn't I didn't do any. I just sit on the couch. Watch TV go back. Maybe go to the the shop that I like to take my daughter to get a get French toast. She loves this one place. So I'll take your there come back. That's it. Or maybe take her to a date night. The only difference is now a lot of people are starting to recognize any more. So like, I'm walking on movies, people stopped me. Hey, can I get a picture United feature? Yeah. Of course, the but nothing changed. I'm the same frigging guy. I haven't got a chance to do anything as surgery last Tuesday. I'm been in bed for weeks. So I haven't done anything. But I don't think anything is going to change. I'm the same guy. Well, you sound like you have the perfect attitude like the idea that you're having making a prayer to just do your best and not be hurt. And none of your opponent her and protect you and your opponent. Does that is a beautiful attitude, and the fact that the way you're approaching this. I mean, you just you're just. Here to compete and to do your very best. All you. You're free of the burden of a lot of bullshit that some people carry around with them Joe. And I was thinking about this on the way up is a lot of a lot of those fighters a lot of those champions like after a while, you they feel this certain pressure to to be able to do this or that. And some of the examples that I gave is there's so much pressure innocent silver. I almost felt like he couldn't wait to lose. He was just like, oh, it's like a pressure the way you just wanna put it down. You know, Matt. And when BJ Penn beat. Oh, yeah. You just want to get hurt is actually feel like leave? It was so much pressure. Joyce saint-pierre ran away from the sport because pressure. Yeah. For me. I don't feel shit. How is his allergies thing? I was like I don't care like look at this fight. Now, the coming divide everyone's already bringing making a big deal out of it. It's another fight for me. I don't even think of myself as all your the champion. I don't care. I just want to beat this guy up. Do you think that you will care though, in the media obligations and all that shit happens or do you think you just be able to send your way through all that shit? I would be lying to say. I would never care. I would be I think that'd be doing an injustice, but I feel like. I go to certain people like I have some of my go-to people that I I get to the I call them, my mental coaches, and like Rashad the biggest thing with that. I learned I talked to a shot about is. Russia was always porn into me late man you enjoy and enjoy the ride you'd be okay. With that feeling because there was a certain time where? I was a little more nervous than usual hours. I was nervous for what one. I think. I can't remember the fi and I was nervous enrich hours. I may just make friends with feeling be okay with it make friends with the feeling of like understand that. It's okay. You feel that way? And just be okay with it. And so that I I go back to those feelings, and even there was an exercise when I was wrestling. I was living at the Olympic training center. I was training. And I started feel all this pressure that that a lot of people put on all your division to guy. You can't be Olympic champion. You can't do this. You can't do that. And my coach at the time. Brennan sleigh was I yeah. A lot of people may, you know, made put that pressure on me when I was competing to and said that how you choose. Sure, you you can't beat these guys. You can't be Beauvais cisa take not of the, you know, the most famous Russian wrestler of all time. And and they're saying you can't beat them. You can't do this. You can do that. He said one exercise each should do is he'll. Think of all these negative thoughts. Because people start saying in your mind. I it's you goes into your mind, you know, especially now when all these fans tweet shit and say so to you you read it if you read it it's in there. And so one day he said, he should do is just put all those thoughts in just imagine this envisioning glass jars you just put them all in the jar shut the lid, grab a big sledge hammer. You just smash it, and it sounds silly. But I was like, oh, it wasn't too a little while after I started doing that. So when I started out in myself man, can I do it can I do with this guy. He can meet me. I mean, what if he knocks me hot and embarrassing me in front of everyone, then on my slap fuck out of it. Put it in her nightjar and smash might have followed them minute. You supposed to feel like this Rashaad said you supposed to feel like this Yemen. Yeah. And I just take a deep breath, I smile, and I just snapped back in and Eddie Alvarez also is someone I consider brother. These are the guys that. That I go to for when I started feel down. And I talked to Eddie quite a few times before this last fight. Why start feeling a little bit of pressure? I talked to them, and they just kind of they snapped me back. Will you will you getting frustrated that you weren't being considered amongst the top contenders? When you were undefeated, you are dominating all these people and you were saying like when the wonderboy got two shots. And then you know, you saw the Damian Maya fide, and these always other fights was that was that hard for you. Yeah. It was it was a time where I'm not gonna lie. Joe? I was like what a fucking my doing this. I'm you. I'm gonna keep fighting for twenty five and twenty five thirty and thirty right. What what the thing is what a lot of people don't understand is. They think oh, man. Is that fifteen minutes that you're out there that twenty five minutes you out there train fighting, and that's it. You know, you got paid ten at ten, bro. You just I just did a. Five-month training camp to where I eat right for five months for twenty thousand dollars. Yes. If you if you win and on top of it. It's. That's society so backwards nowadays to eat clean food is more expensive. So for me to eat cleaned for five months. I'm already five ten grand in whole on top of it. You got bills coming every month? That's not going anywhere. Yeah. That just to train for these fights. I've spent more than that. And you have taken more damage than that. Because that's when you really take damage, I'm sparring. And when I fractured my foot that happened the last week in training my lifespan session. I'd kick someone in the face boom foot scar. It was it was bad. It was at first. I just figured, you know, it's like more time you kick shins and elbows all the time. And you know, you get the little fractures. But that you know, you work on it and has gone a week. But this one just wasn't all the way swelling kept coming back and coming back. So I'm starting freaking out might oh shit. I think I really broke something. And so I start freaking out an a day or two three days four days. I get it worked on. I'm have a really special compression socks that. I have on it at all time ice in this thing. Four times a day. And it's not going away. I'd wake up swallow. It'd be bigger. I'm like, oh, man. I did damage so and and I kept walking on it. And I haven't because I have to practice because I had to keep that way too. I gotta keep them metabolism going. And so I'm gonna psych man. There's no way I'm not fighting like you only get an opportunity once he fight call and say, I'm pulling out of this. I might not ever get a shot again. And so I'm like, I'm gonna fight. And there was no doubt in my mind of what I could do. I was just I it's going to happen. I'm already dealing with the hernia situation. And so I'm like, screw it. And thinking about me, I have a ran in three years. Joe? I haven't seen these. Yeah. My knees are so bad. I have not ran the fuck deals which could cardio. What are you doing for cargo? Everything. I do I do frigging hard. I guess I do a frigging hard. I'm on that air and man shot out to my strength and conditioning coach Dr Corey peacock, man. He's also on it too. I mean dot corey's, we put in we put in some time man and inside just ham is my coaches will Greg Greg Jones when we Russell we rest. I wrestle freaking hard. And when I can't do it often anymore, but I wrestle hard. When I hit as yeah. When I hit pass, I hit hard with Henry, everything that I do in my mind. I try to do it at the speed that I would want to do it. If I don't even greater because my whole mentality is when you get tired of. People get tired. That's your threshold. That's where you're at. So that's why your body feels like that. All I'm tired this. As far as I could go. I try to get to that as fast as possible, boom. Because in everything after that is extra high just push push that conditioning, more and more and more. So I just freaking hard everything that I do I do hard. Of course. I do it smart, but I do a heart. But I haven't rent- Joan almost three years does crazy because one of the most impressive things about the fight. Is you never let you foot off the gas and in the fourth round, I think it was when you had tyrant hurt when you really start a porn it on. I was like, okay. He's trying to finish this fight. How how much gas is he going to have left in the tank 'cause you know, sometimes when someone tries to finish someone and they can't they're done. You know, you poured it on you took a couple of depressed than right back on them. And like damn that's some serious fucking cardio sprinting, my I watched that bag. I was like what the fuck was. I I was swinging like while while man, just because. I saw the light at the end of the tunnel. Yeah. And I was like, you know, and I'm like, I was sprinting towards it. But then he gets dimmer and dimmer house. I all ship. It slowdown tyrants. You're still gonna get there, man. He was telling him because he ate some big shots. And people didn't really see what happened was started. That transition. We were in the Clinton I had him in Tyke Lynch, and I think he was trying to work on my body. And I hit him with the knee a hit him with another knee. And in my mind. I just remember some of the trains that I've been through. I've been in that situation in training and ice train with Cosmo Alexandra more. Ty, freaking amazing and one thing that he would show me is how more tiger is would sneak in elbows until I'm in there. And I'm like, I'm tired of not really getting out of this. So I'm Mike frequently try, and this L will that you throw it's sideways elbow, and I'm in there. I throw in and I just do the sideways on and it doesn't. Look hard doesn't look crazy or anything like that. But it was I saw the head. And I just felt it land. And I'm I'm trying to because you gotta read fast Zalm China. Reading them. I'm going to China assess him a Mike hurt because he kind of stumbled back, but Tara has very good poker face. So he has this nonchalant face on. I'm trying to read them on my way way. So I kind of fake a little fake Adam to see if he's trying to set me up for a big shot. And I fake he doesn't throw anything keeps sands on my oh shit. So I thought Jaren I throw a a right hand through it costs guard the hit him, and he really didn't the looked in change. It didn't look like he was out there. I was oh shit. He's hurt. Fricken? Let's go. Let's go. And I remember I talked to Eddie Alvarez. And I asked him why did he freak out like that? When he had already RDA her. And he was just like man, I saw the light at the end a tunnel. And I just freaking I had to empty the tank, and I'm like fucking empty the tank. Let's go. This is my moment empty the tank. So I'm throwing like. Madman and tyrant is taken it, all and he's toughest shit. I'm like damn he's not going down. And there was a couple of times. He's right to look. I coulda went down. And all I had to do is really settle back hit him with clean shots. But I wasn't even fucking thing. In about that. I was just like get this guy out of here. Now, this is what I wanted to do put the stamp on it. Let's freaking do it. There was a hell of a barrage. Yeah. And I'm throwing I'm throwing them throwing. Red line. The gas tank is only it's on E. It's on E. Which is the only reason I even shot in for shot. I was and then I heard my coaches saying take him what they realize I wasn't frigging knocking him out. They were like take Donald. And I grabbed his leg and tried to. But that was thing I can recover pretty quickly. So you were covered very quick because it was one of those pivotal moments in a fight where I was like man, if Tyron doesn't go out here. How much does he have left? I knew I I was I was scared because I was like I know he knows he's probably down three to four rounds. And I knew I was I I was I was in a sense waiting for him to do starts. Not letting go to snap out of it. But nothing one thing you never really give yourself enough credit with your game is with my games. I feel like I. I put people in trans in like a certain stage to where they just no getting out of it. And I not. And that that's kind of been a knock on me. People are saying, oh, you not finishing fides. You're not doing this. You're not submit guys. You're not knocking them out. This is my mentality on that. And this has been since I was a wrestling is a wrestling you could pin guys really quick do slick moves and pain guys. But then guys would get up and say, oh, man, I never seen that movie before he caught me in slip mood. That's why he got me. I'm I'm gonna get him. Next time. I'm going to do that. I'm I'm gonna get him. And the same thing with the fire. It's like man, I had my hand down, and he caught me sleeping. So he caught Muthu shot. It was a lucky shot. He's not never gonna do that shit to me. Next time. I'm going to get him. All he mood a slick submission. I never seen that before. I'm a trained for next time. He's getting I'm stop him. My thing is even wrestling. What I always wanted to do as I wanted to tech fog is in wrestling and tech fall. What that means is when you beat someone by fifteen points, you have a fifteen point gap, they stopped manage because it's basically a skunk. Like you skunk this guy by he sucked. You beat them that bad. They had to stop it. That is my mentality. That is always what I strive for any two thousand eleven I believe I not done limb. Two thousand and nine I led the nation division. One two three any I whatever intact falls on one point me and Brent Metcalf battle in like every week. I would look and see who had the most tech fall. Then it was me him be me him. And I had the most because that's my was my goal. I wanted to guys because in their mind what it says is you can't fuck with that guy. There's you can't hang with them. There was nothing. You can do it. Didn't it wasn't a quick panel lucky pin or this like he destroyed you he just set levels apart. And that's what I do imminent fighting. Now, I do the exact same thing is I would much rather dominate you from start to finish. I wanna break you. I don't want. I want you think about fighting me again. It's not you don't want you to you. I want you to say fuck, no. I don't know shit. No. He be me everywhere. He broke me. He took something from me because you're going to think about you only. Remember, the fights you lose you don't like I've been so many guys in rest. I can't tell you maybe thirty guys that I've beaten wrestling. I don't have no idea. But the ones you lose you can almost tell everyone, and that's what my my take on it. I want to dominate you so bad when you think about fighting me again, you don't you say fuck that I'll pass on that fight. And so people are like, oh, man. This guy doesn't really finish guys. But how many guys want to fight me again? Not a lot of them. Do you have one loss in MMA? Yes. I do one loss. Right. Yeah. I have one who's in my second fight. Caseros? I forget his name forget his first name. It's the cassette. Jose is it Jose Caceres isn't brother LX, it's Jose because he name's Jose Caceres allies considers old I think, it's older brother. Oh, yeah. And man, it was I took the final like two weeks notice or something like that. Because it was like eight months between I fought my first fight. And I thought see that's the thing with 'em fighters coming in ama- may now this is a lesson to you guys. Everyone feels like oh, I'm just going to jump in. And it's going to be peachy. I'm beginning fights every week every other month. No. So I fought my first fine. I thought okay. This is great my career's kit. Starting I'm gonna be doing fight. And every so often I went through twenty twenty two opponents. Within my first fight. If I got the second fight because now, you know, it was Google now everyone all at national champion wrestling not. I don't wanna fight that. Because everyone wants to get you have see and they figure all it's the best record. You wanna be undefeated to get to the UFC? So nobody wants to find anyone that's hard. Right. And so, of course, at that point. I was arrested. I could take anyone down hold him down for three rounds and went fight. So everyone no one wanted that fight. So it was month to month went by. And then that fight came about I was just like shit. I'll take you. And I'll be honest, I never grappled before that I never digit to. And so I figured I can wrestle my way. Do all this, man. Fuck these guys these guys are low level guys. You know, look who I trained with trained. We were shot Evans in these guys. Those guys can't touch me. I get in the fi I throw a one to his leisure there. I hit him with the one to boom double-leg. I live within fifteen seconds. Boom. Threw him down full now. And I'm kind of throwing punches. I didn't really know what I was doing. I'm throwing punches and I'm trying to elbow him and Jose Caceres. I think six two six one six I don't he's well taller than me long. Limbs he throws his legs. I'm in full mount. He throws his legs around my body. I never seen. Oh shit like that before right? My mind at that time was I what is oh shit. What's this? I didn't know what to do. So am I so I started kind of panic in my mind. I don't know what to do. I'm like fucking get out which is what you don't do. Right. So I turn my body. I'm trying to like get up and walk out, which is what you don't do. And so he just basically climbed up my back, boom. We're not even sweating you bomb. He's on my back. I'm standing up with the backpack on he's six something. He has a foot on the ground. One foot wrapped around me. He's fighting for the job. And I think I hold him all for another like minute and a half, I'm standing, and I'm fighting this choke all the while. I'm thinking like oh shit. I can't go down because I don't know. What the fuck I'm doing down there as well. Right. So I don't really know the defense down there. So if I go down that might make it worse. I don't know the defense. And this dude looks like he knows what he's doing behind me. He's got a few more he's out of few fights. And I'm I'm kinda scared, and I'm fighting now, I'm standing up my feet are getting heavy getting shaky. I'm like, I'm a strong guy. What fucking feet shaking because they're starting to fill up with blood. My adrenaline is pumping that I'm just like oh shit. I'm about to lose. Joe is this moment in your mind to where you start to come to realize Asian Windsor thing. Yeah. I'm like oh shit. I'm about to lose. And what? And then I start thinking about random thoughts and one of the thoughts. I thought thought about was before the fire we had a commission meeting in the bag and the commission said if you get choked unconscious, you're suspended for six months. So you can't fight for six months because in my mind. I'm my fuck this. I'm gonna tough guy. I'm you gotta put me to sleep. I ain't never tap it. Right. So I'm Mike if I get it took me, eight months get this fight. And this is short notice fight. I haven't made money in eight months. I'm broke his shit. I sleep and re I I live with Rashad. I live with another man. I'm broke his shed. I have no money I need money. So if I can't fight for another six months, I have no money. So all these starts going through my mind. And I hear Alex ca Sarah's on the other side of the cage screaming he is gonna tap. He's Al and I'm like fuck am I gonna? I'm like fucking well played Alex. Now, I'm thinking about to happen. Just for that L, man. I just saw it going down on Mike. You can't be suspended for six months, bro. I know you want me tough right now you wanna go to sleep. What you can't be suspended for six months. You have to you got you know, you gotta make money, you broke, I fucking tab. Joe? I've fucking DAT. I never felt so. I don't wanna say emasculated. If that's the word. I never felt. So like, I just that's what I said like win or lose. It takes something from you. And I walked out of that fight our into the back I paste for like, maybe two three hours in the back all the fights fifth finished up, and I finally went to locker and got my stuff and and came out, but I just pace back and forth, and the feeling in my mind was I am never gonna feel like this. Again, I do not ever wanna feel like this and ever since. Then I got a fucking, gee, I never had a game before I got a gay. I started training with Jorge Santiago much to coach Beulah every fucking morning. I was I brought so you give your black belt my bra. And and this is the thing is I never I never worried about that. I never worried about like, yes. I was freaking beaten up blue belts before. I was even know why Bill like, yeah. 'cause I never did that skill drain. Did you choose your skills? But I knew how to grapple through certain things. Sure, I've been grappling at heart high level. But it wasn't just jujitsu. So he kept challenging me. Like, I was always. 'cause I. I wanna be that guy. I wanted to be the freaking blue belt that freaking works all the Brown and black bells, but he would freak and promote me, I purple bell. Because you've been training you train in the I'm gonna promote you. So he kept challenge being challenged him. So now people knew I felt like all it was doing was alerting people of what to expect when you're wet with me and for them to try to to really fuck me up. And so he promoted me, I think a couple of years ago Brown belly. I think maybe two and a half two years ago and and then promoted me to blackmail. He just asked me to come in and jam. I didn't even know. I just felt like okay, man. He wants everyone to take pictures with the bell and freaking bag ballot. And other thing just floored me shit. I never knew I never expected all of this. I just wanted to fucking compete, right? I just wanted to be a martial artist. Learn all this stuff and compete. I never knew that. I'd get a bite bell. I never knew that. I would win the championship bell be the best in the. World at this at that time. So I never knew all that. How much did you adjust your training to incorporate you jitsu, did you add more training sessions or did you substitute ABSA frigging? Lutely, I I would what I would do is because I was living with Reshad at the time. So what I would do is. I would somehow get to the gym because we saw was traveling a lot this is at the high. He was doing a lot of different shows and stuff. And so I would go to the gym and seven AM would have seventy m practice. I think Monday Wednesdays Fridays George would have a class, and I would go and take that class. And then I would pro class was I think it was at nine. So I would just stay at the gym while pros came in for the practice at nine. So I would go through that class as well. And then after that whether lift on my own strengthening conditioning, right after that and dumb asked me, let's run saying I was twenty something that that time. I wasn't eating in between all the sessions. I wasn't doing any is Allah. Just frigging going going going. Oh, so you eat breakfast. And that was it. I think he breakfast at that time you didn't even eat breakfast. I didn't even eat breakfast. I would get a cold go to the gym workout, Dan. We're going roll into the next session and workout then roll into stranded condition. Whatever I did on my own workout, no food, no food. And then freaking go home. Eat a big meal snap, then go back for the night session practice, and that's how it was for a long long time. And Rashad was would always come home and say, hey, man, why don't you come out with me this weekend? Let's let's go out. Let's go do some now. All right now, man, I got trained on Monday man on do. All I wanna go out light, bro. You gotta balance in this. It's gotta be a balance. And I'll just thought at that time. I'll fuck that you say that the tar Chan use a best. So you say that my whole day was I'm just need to work. I need to catch up. I need to catch up to these guys. I need to work. So I was just don't overtime overtime overtime. But you know, now, I understood. And what Rashaad was saying? There has to be balanced. Yeah. When did you just you're eating? I think we got a strength and conditioning coach Jake Bernard, but Naci and Jake amazing Coachman he walked with a lot of the extreme Qatar guys or crude like Randy and those guys back in the day. And he's kind of started that you got a fuel yourself. He kind of started, you know, let me in and I seek neces- by me, I seek knowledge. Like, I'm always I always wanna learn always wanna learn whatever I can started learning like oh shit. No one day. I was dead tired in that session. No wonder had nothing left because I realized in eat I had no fuel. So I started kind of putting things in and and the more and more like I said, it wasn't until my last two or three fights that I started working when trifecta and Clint Whittenberg and just you know, I seek knowledge if whenever I can get knowledge, I I take it to try fact, the folks what kind of stuff they prepare for you man, they prepare meals, and they they send it to me. They sent me the like. Like, I said I like to cook for myself. They send you like a cooler prepacked yet. They sent they sent me the prepackaged, but I'm not so much into the prepackaged stuff. Like in on just throwing microwave Anita. I'm not so much like that. Because I like I like hot food I wanted to feel fresh. So they'll tell me like the package like the protein and the chicken and the the steak or fish and things like that. And basically I'd take out in my response to take it on. I think it's precooked, but I take it out. And I put it over in stove and make some, you know, veggies with it and other stuff that I want with it. And I'll cook it that way. So it seems more like a a fresh meal, you know, it's kinda pre made just for my mind. I get it. I get it. So do they have it broken down with a certain amount of calories for each meal dependent upon what kind of working out you're doing man Clint Clint broke it down. I give him my schedule for the week. And he breaks it down. Like, this is what you need to eat four servings of protein for services of carb fats in this and. Before you weightlifting such before your sparring before this you need this amount of sugar in this month is this amount of that man made a big difference. 'cause I would there be certain practice. I I would left and I'm not fucking. Yeah. Feel good. I wanna get out of there to where usually I hit a wall bone fucking. This is miserable. Yeah. Yeah. I just I just grind through it. USC performance institute is amazing assists. Incredible. What they did when they were talking about building out. I was like what is this going to be like, what are they doing there? Spent a lot of money. They who knows what the fuck is going to be. But then they took me on a tour of it. I was like this is literally the ultimate training facility in ten years. It is still be. Up to date is still be like fuck out of this thing is now catching more is. I I. Take me there. I was sick. Live here. Yeah. I know literally live there a lot of people relocated to Vegas just to make that the center of the train. All yeah. Yeah. I see. I Claudia Gedalya down there Francis. And train course he trained for his last fight in France believe. Yeah. His his last two fights. He did in France. And yeah, we, you know, like, that's my boy, we we talked all the time. And that's the scariest heavyweight of all time. Like, I don't understand what people are a lot of people like especially after those last couple of fights, the Derek Lewis fights people were these fans, man, they were condemning him like this is and. Those things you just gotta give you gotta give them time to recover from the steep a fight. He had psychological yak got over it with with Curtis blades me. Stop Curtis played. It was one of the best guys in the heavyweight division Curtis's up big boss chorus was beezus. And and even for this fight. Everyone's all canes going K's going gonna do cave going do canes a better version of St. pay. And and I get it. Like, I understand Kane. Kane is the greatest ever heavyweight we've ever really see, you know. I mean, you know, DC right now, that's an argument to you know, but Cain was great. But canes been gone for almost three years to long long time. And people are putting all this pressure on him that expecting him to come back and beat the same old Kane like nothing happened. And I'm like guys I and then not to come back. Come back and gets the scariest heavyweight we've ever seen ever ever. This francis. You little bit the first time he lifted weights was with me. What Francis never touched ways ever. Necessary. Then you go to Africa. There's millions of guys like like that walking around saying that his story is like a it's like Conan scene where Conan was like pushing the wheel he was he was working in a sand mind his day in sand. Yeah. And becoming this tank of a man is crazy is obviously superior genetics on top of that. Because you don't get to be to sixty five naturally. Yes. Just I mean, you have to have fantastic genetics. He's got that too. But his ability to land punches that just put people away with like, he can graze you and fuck you up. Absolutely. And the speed. Like, I tried ouster over trying to start with him. I tried to Spar with him once. Yeah. One seventy farm with him. I mean, it was just playing around. And that's the thing in our room like everybody spotted everybody, and he loves sparring with smaller guys, he loves it. Because it's not yet because it's not he's not trying to hurt. Anyone not trying to hurt you. But it's just he likes working on the speech. He's so fast. I think he's faster than me. Force. Like, I mean, it's an I Mike is that fast that much power? I mean, if he even I and I said what I say he touched anywhere near the circumference right here. You're gonna wake up and ask. What happened? Well, that's what Cain was saying that he was he didn't remember what happened. When Francis Francis apparently Graham with the first punch near the back of his head and canine, remember shed after that, and they left him with that uppercut on the inside. Everyone was saying oh, he hurt his knee. That's what happened. No. He got hit with a punch in their small shock punts. All it takes. But yeah. Yeah. What's what's amazing that steep a weather the storm? That's what's amazing goes to you gotta give credit to steep. I mean because deep weather the storm. When Francis was convinced he was going to put steep away after the over him destruction. I mean, he put over him into orbit. Yeah. To watch that it was like holy shit. And you think the striking credentials of Alastair? I mean. Allister's glory heavyweight champion strikeforce heavyweight champion k one grand prix mean he won the three of the most prestigious titles in combat sports and to have Francis clip him like that was just like Jesus that goes through tests to MMA. This is why the sports so great. It doesn't matter where you come from. What you different good. It's you're good at it. Doesn't matter. Those those four ounce gloves and being able to wrestle and grapple and do all everything changed. It's an even playing field for everybody. Yeah. Now if he just gets his wrestling on point. I mean, he's he it's crazy that he's only been doing them MA all told for what five years now. Five six years. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, I may this witch around the same time we had our first official. You have see fight the same time while. Yeah, in what was your first year of your first fight was your I find my. I fight. I thing was in twenty thirteen twenty twelve so seven years ago, which is crazy. Yeah. And how much striking and you done before. I fight. Not a lot. I mean, I mean did they with me is like I used to watch videos when I was convinced myself like I was going to start doing this. And this is years in the making like I was I coached on season fourteen on the ultimate fighter with bist being in mayhem Miller. I was out mayhems wrestling coach why and now's the season with T J dillashaw, John Dodson, Dennis Bermudez and all these guys. And so at that point I had started to shout out to Ryan Parsons, man. Dr Parsons one who brought me and he was managing mayhem at the time. And I love Ryan. Yeah. Ryan's super guy. Man loved Ryan. And. And I was on fiddle with it. I know throw my hands a little bat. Like, yeah. This one day, you know, I just kind of plan around and playing around with it. And so I love boxing. I love watching and all that stuff. I was like man, you know, maybe do stuff one day. But when I watched those guys go through the ultimate fighter being here in Vegas it being in Vegas and in the house. I was like, yeah. No way. I'm not doing that shit. I'm never. A nine doing it even back then you were thinking, I'm just going to Russell. Yeah. How at that time. I was living at the Olympic training center. I was training for the Olympics. I was I ain't gonna do this shit. Now. It's not as well. As what wasn't the flip the switch Rashad really Rashad the same time? I think two thousand eleven I still at the Olympic training center. I had gone back and just training, and I was friends with king. Mo I've known king mole ever since. I was in high school and funny thing is I man like we were so connected because from similar we're Walkin similar paths. King moans from like African descend. So am I and he wrestled in Texas. And so it was I in high school, and then he's division two guy. I went division to use an Astra champ. I was national champ. And you know, walk into similar pass. I was I felt connected to king moles. So I would always talk to him. I looked up to those guys king Mohan in DC and. They were like, you know, the the black dues that you look up to because they want a lot of black wrestlers. So they was do that. We looked up to it was like Hammond came on. So he's been doing man thinking at that time he was distract for champion and so king mall causing me, an my friend Jake Fisher who is a world team member at the times. Hey, you guys wanna come down to Denver and train with us in on me. I'm gonna train that night. Of course. I'm gonna go. Yeah. Tray with king MoMA. Boy, I get to see him. You know? So we go down the first time I've ever been starstruck in my life. And this was now I've been watching them it may now, you know, done the show and all these things so we get down there. And we're in address room. I'm you know, I'm just thinking kick moas come in. And we'll go to work out with them as me Fisher TC, Dan's ler and another kidney bow and we're in addressing room or changing. And it was Joe warns Jim what changed Joe Joe arm, man. Bad as as a funny do. Yeah. And we're we're changing and all the sudden you nam changing I'll look back or shot Evans walks in the fucking dressing room. At a I never been started. I in my life. I was signed. That's shit. So you're not had the play cool be Abdul. You. No, I ain't no fan boy. But I'm thinking my motto shit that fucking were shot. I just watched his fight rampage, and they do the ultimate fighter and all this joy like shit shot. So we get we get back out now training together, we're wrestling. And I just can't believe how you know to this day. He can fuck in line say he took me down. Then get one take down that chain session. I rake in till him down several times ran him off the map. But the one thing that I couldn't I I was impressed by how good of a wrestler was then I started doing my research. Oh, he actually wrestled. He's wrestler. Michigan state. The two times you champion. Here's a wrestler that can be how good he was. But then after that session we sat on the mat? And we talk and the keeping mind my whole mind is like shit. I'm talking to a superstar here and he was at the top of the game. And I couldn't believe I we talk we brothers like we homeys. I remain best friends. He's guy man. I mean, I could he floored me, and I was just like shit. I shot Evans gave me his number after a gimmes numbers eyebrow. Yeah. What you would you do what you gonna do. Not as we got. We got dropped by to Colorado Springs. He's like, oh, okay. Well, I'll be back in Denver. I'm here to you know, talk. I we were boys. And of course, I'm like, it's I you holding the piece of paper is number on it. I'm like oh shit. That's what number. So I go home. It's like do. I wait days. It takes him. Do. I do. I do. I do. Oh, we do shit. Sounds number just sitting on my desk. I walked by a look at it. Oh, man. So. He a week goes by and he frigging text me. He just text me out on the booth. Like, oh what man what's up? I'm going to be in Denver this nice. You know next month or something like that? Once you come to me, I yeah. Yeah. For sure for sure. So I went and trained with him again. Just you know, hung out for a little bit. And then he started it became regular you texting regularly. Like, hey, I gotta fight coming up about the fight. Phil Davies I'm gonna bring you down to Florida with me to train me for two weeks. Fuck you can fly me to Florida to try which. Yeah. Of course, I'm down. So now, I became like part of his training arsenal. And every time. That's the thing. We're re time he'd make fun of you like, you know, like brothers. Do he'll poke fun at you. You know, you wanna do have may, you know, you wanna do this? You should be doing that shit. Why you over there? Bussing your button wrestling like you train all through this whole risk Leslie camp, go all the way to Russia wrestle tournament. If you won the tournament, you've got fifteen hundred bucks. And this is I would help these guys train those guys go out beat somebody up makes seventy five hundred thousand like what the fuck spor my in right now what is going on. And so he kept poking you know, you wanted to visit you you wanna do that? So he's slowly started to shift my motivation at my focus towards MMA. Instead of winning that Olympic gold. And then of course, I was dealing with a lot of different injuries here. And there tore up my knees on my back, and I just I started to feel like my chance of winning Olympic gold started to diminish more and more and more. And then I started falling in love with this sport here and there, and then I talked with him talk with king MO chemo is your site. Man. Those straddle the fence man because I straddled defense and local happened because chemo is supposed to be the Olympia. And he was like, I the and look I lost the trials and nominee. I'm amazed. So if you don't do that just do that. And we're showers. I watched come down in Florida. I just frigging. I was like, man. That's it. I'm done. Wow. Now when we were talking about came Velazquez earlier Kane has had a series of catastrophic injuries, knee, injuries, knee surgeries shoulder surgeries back surgery. When you think about your style, that's kind of similar to his in a lot of ways, and that you rely on pressure. Volume mental toughness and wrestling all those things you're you're constantly attacking. You're constantly bombarding your opponent with with technique and with pressure when you see that you've gone through all these surgeries. And you see what happens with a guy like Cain, whereas body just can't compete with his mental toughness anymore. It's almost like his his mind is too strong for his body and his body just brakes. Yeah. I mean, it's fuck with you at all it's a little bit. Because it's it's like man, you gotta switch up because you wanna have longevity. Yes. I've had seven surgeries now. So what's what have you done? Servers fucking these at four meniscus on each four for you on the left to on a right? And then I've also had microfracture which is probably the one of the most the biggest serious surveys that I've had on my right knee. Now is that one of the oldest ones where they try to regrow Cartlidge yet. It's I guess the process is they they make breaks they make Frank sure sale condal to hopefully, I guess scar up, you know, generate a blood supply scar up so where he creates a little cushion but fucking Denmark. I feel like is set me back. Really? Yeah. Man. Big time you ever heard of Dr Neil Reardon, and what they're doing down in Panama with stem cells. No, no, no. I've never heard him. I've heard of stem cells, and I I've actually had around stem cells and the doing down in Pammy. He's talked to do you not J dillashaw? Yeah. Not talk to him about it man 'cause he has some phenom-. No, actually sent my mom down there. Yeah. They were trying to get my mom and knee replacement surgery. Was like, whoa. We hold on. Let's let's see what we can do. So I sent her down there the Panama. They can do he his office is in Dallas, and I had him on with Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson's dad when he sent him down there was ninety two and he was in a wheelchair. Now. He's a hundred and he's walking around and according to Mel I didn't ask. But according to Mel still getting hard on. I don't think I know the way. He said, I mean mel's gone down himself, and man, I would go down if I had anything really wrong with me too. I mean, I've got a lot of stem cells done here in the states. Yeah. But they can do some shit down there in Panama. They just cannot do here in terms of regulations and shit, and they're they're doing phenomenal work with re growing cartilage and meniscus and all kinds of shit. Yeah. I mean, especially right now while you're in recovery phase anyway. Yeah, you should really should get in contact with them. Yeah. For sure I'm gonna I'm definitely give that a try because they've they've helped TJ quite a bit. I know other fighters have gone down there as well. Yeah. That's something that definitely I'm gonna look now. Because you know, I mean when you're dealing with bone on bone like, I'm sure you probably are that have been on for a long long time. It's fucking hard to train longtime. That's why it's so impressive your cardio because you're you can't run. So you you do you do imply os as well. Yeah. I mean part of what like like I said my sternly condition. Coach Corey we do a good job of just into what I can or can't do, and you know, obviously back squats are not the biggest the best thing for me to be doing. So we modify would do different types of squats and things like that. And we still get pretty good results. Do you do any swimmin-? Yeah. I play in the water a lot too. And that that's I do a lot footwork stuff in the Lauder because takes a lot of pressure off. Yeah. I was forced I I can't. I mean, I'm not going to go in here and do backstrokes all this crazy swimming techniques. But you know, I get in there to get that workout. Or anything like that dig into friends? You said your shoulders are fucking with you to shoulder. I me I'm a wrestler, you know, shoulders always overhang, you know, but I haven't been fortunate. No surgeries there yet. But yeah, knees had surgeries five, and then I tore this my index finger that tendon right there. And I tore that my junior year in college, and I tore that had surgery at that to replace that repair that and then now this freaking whole apparatus that I have gone on. Laura. Oh, they do. I did a little bit. I told him because they need the doctor want to work with Mashhour all because he said, I you know, there's good and bad results with mesh. So you know, I got this freaking drain coming out of me. Right. Oh shit. Oh my goodness. Look at that. Plus and stuff, it was blood like it was basically the blood. It's like a vacuum. I think they call Jane blunt. But now it's coming down. It's not that much blood coming out of there and hold on Tuesday. I got wile so you have to walk around maneuver this thing shoes. And the worst thing is the burning because it's obviously sticking out of a whole. There's a hole in me. So the burning sensation rounded the third day. I told the the physical therapist I was like you're almost cut this shit off his says. Because I'm not big into the painkillers. Right. So I'll take it move the day after I'll take it. You know, maybe they just don't do much for me doesn't kill the pain on my what do they call these painkillers? It doesn't kill the pain. Does they just makes me a little loopy? It makes me stupid as fuck. I don't either. I saw I just have a bag of. And I just I don't do anything. What about CBD do that? I do man shot out to sponsored by love hemp beautiful. Love hamp is a UK company. Yeah. Amazing. They're doing some really really big things. And I'm big into like the oil. I have. And I have the rub. And I both agree. I use those a lot. So that's in my repertoire, yeah, that's huge for anybody. That's experiencing any kind of inflammation, plus for general, anxiety and overall health CBD's fantastic. Yeah. No, psychoactive effects too. You know, because that's that's that's the freaking stigma behind his marijuana as we know it. We're talking about marijuana before the pod. Cast. Yes. That's like kill it. Like I'm coming on Jerome. Nice though. Oh, no. What you watch and loose it here. I want you to into all the problem is like when people don't get high. And then they get high in a pressure situation like this. You're just like. Yeah. Go into that tunnel. Like, oh my God. Yeah. I've I've tried. I've smoked four times in my life. How did it? Go. Not good. The first time is my twenty four th birthday twenty four th birthday. I smoked with who has a couple of friends of mine at the Olympic training center. And they didn't do anything because I don't even know how to I don't hit the blind. I don't know. I feel. Yeah. So it's like man this stuff don't affect me dog. So so I didn't say that. And you wanna do it again? And then the next time was the year after with Jason Miller, mayhem Miller. Oh may have knows how to hit that we I was doing. It was doing Altima fighter. We're doing that. And one thing we do at night is a lot of people expect like, ma'am, when he's not on is a man super cool guy, isn't it? I mean, there's always like kind of like being around, Mike Tyson. There's always like, yeah. There's always that edge to where you're in the room with the freaking lion. Like, yeah. He's been coolest lion ever. But you still know what the fucking lion right and mayhem like that. You're gonna ruin everything's cool. But he still has Ican snap. So we're sitting on the balcony and nine and we'll just talk, and he would just talk about these in the weird thing about mayhem. Is he always watched like he watched nothing, but like smart shit like the news? The Kobe report like things like that. You know, he wouldn't watch. I would think he watched like nine to one zero. Reagan shows I got like, no, man. He you know, he was very intelligent guy. Who would just sit there and talk at night and. He gave me the nickname that night to and frigate. He's like, bro. Your first name starts to the K last, man or smart. I'm gonna frigging. Call you cuss? I'm calling you. Frigging the next day onset. Everyone calls me Kush. To this day people. Call me Cush you like to the Nigerian nightly free, and at that time it wasn't born yet, you know, the name was because I start fighting yet. But so I've had nicknames all through all throughout my life my career, which the whole been aspirin shit that he's trying to run with growing Marta brass Marty from the calls. They mardi from Nebraska. This is the thing is when I started wrestling, I started in high school, my coaches, this big marine. Do you know it was shape bus cut? Why do and he comes up to me? I'm five foot two hundred pounds soaking wet. And he's like, yo what's your name kid? I tell them buddy. I don't even think he paid attention. And he's I read what you could try to wrestling. I've never heard of wrestling. I'll have heard is WWE like now man, I try and get hit with chairs and stuff. I knew that shit. Got at me. He's I okay. Yeah. All I will give it a shot in our assistant wrestling coach was the assistant football codes. So they kinda poke at me. Yeah. You come. Try wrestling come try wrestling. I'll do the football season. Then the next year I freak in. I not it up, and I've frigging just sign up for wrestling. I went in and. He looks at he's reason role. She calling names, and he goes KOMO Kamara rude who the who the. You fucking this kid and as me coach he's like that's your name. Yeah. He's like I'm not saying that 'cause my whole full name is commodity KOMO routine. Kamara dean, he's like, I'm not gonna say that like KOMO commodity Kamar, Mark, Monaco, you Marty. And I'm like, yeah. Sure coats. I'm fucking five foot three hundred cater this guy. I don't really share the me your kid. You don't care you're gonna have nicknames all grown up. So why does the UFC short new name to Kamar? Now. That's that's what my parents called me is KOMO yet. My parents call me tomorrow, but the full it's like, my my name's Joseph, my parents, call me. Joe joe? Exactly. Yeah. So the, you know, so that it's it's Kamaru. That's what my parents have always called me. That's what I call myself. Okay. You know, but my full name is Joseph say Kamorudeen. So he's Marty. Yeah. He's like I'm calling Marty so fucking online. Now, the whole team is calling me Marty and. So. So fuck. Man. I I love those names. I love that Coachman. He changed essentially change in my life changed the course of my life. That is such a funny thing though to do. Yeah. And that's not even close. That's totally different letter. I I it seemed to work it works. So well to wear this thing about nicknames. If you fuck in if you're a guy that just a regular average guy, you suck your name is with you you move on on cares. Right. You know? But if you're doing something incredible something spectacular that name lives on. Right. So now mardi went from just now everyone on the team. Call me Marty to where people knew about the wrestling around the wrestling cert- can't you know in highschool calling me Mario that mardi guy. That did kids. Good. And then I'll college coaches are calling like, oh, I wanna recruit this kid. You know, this Kamara reunion kid, and he's like, ooh, mardi. So now, they own know me as Marty. So now, I go to college and the coaches calling me Marty. And now the college team is calling me Marty. Now, here's the situation. This whole ban aspirin thing is like I just mentioned if I was just a regular guy whose son no one cares. No one knows your name you die out. But because I made waves like I was that mardi kid that wrestle that Nebraska. That's beating the shit out of everyone division one two three. And I ju- co doesn't matter Ben knows of me. So you know, he's trying to cling on something to bring it back. Like, oh, this is funny. I'm trying to hide from it. No. I really was mardi from the Brassica. Everyone's ass from the bresca. I really was that guy. So you know for him to bring it out. I thought he was silly. But you know, these fans fans wanna they because Ben is Representative of the trolls like most of the trolls, look like Ben ask if I can give you any. That's hilarious. Give you any advice. Please don't pay attention. I don't shit don't pay attention to comments you know, that glass jar. What's he smashed that thing don't even put anything in there anymore? Man. Don't do nothing. I I've I've heard you say that so many times I when I started paying attention to the show. I started watching the show, and I watched the one you did with tyrant when time was up here. And you're so right because that's one thing that I always felt like so unfair about tyrant is a lot of people just gave him shit because and I think it started because he didn't take that bell. They didn't dethrone George saint-pierre. So I think a lot of his stemmed from that. I know it does it stopped Robbie lower that didn't give understand. But but torch, San still looping around champion, but sort of not because he retired. He said I'm going to step away. Yeah. But he he stepped away. Yes. I unders- for you being the obviously, you know, so much about the sport you being in the sport for so long. Yes. Before these fickle fans don't know shit. That's why he can't listen to all they know is George saint-pierre worship. Here was a champion and he never lost his bell. So I felt like tyrant forgot his fair share necessarily I feel like the same because because you never took the belt from George, and he always wants to wonder boy fights, I think the wonderboy fights. We're so fucking hard. Even before the fight wonderboy that way that is the wings fight that guy. Yes, you know, unless you know, someone like me comes in, and doesn't would you do it would, you know, how do I just do me because he's still in the mix? How would you do me? I will eventually get a. Hold of a model eventually break him, and you know, eventually make it look, easy and people are gonna just complain. So it is what it is. Yeah. The the the the problem with him is he's so difficult to get close to a different guy because his style so different. He'll stand totally sideways on you his hands will be down and he can wrestle. I mean in terms of takedown defense. You've got good takedown fence and his strikes come from fucking weird angles. Man. He moves like a snake? He bends at the waist than pops Ford. Watch him kick box. Well. I, but I saw that. You know, I knew a problem when he to that one kick that came over the fucking shoulder smack. Yeah. Question Mark kick. Yeah. Yeah. He's not the front leg. He's very good with it. He just you don't even know what's going on. He think maybe he's gonna kick you in the body surrounds around comes over the top smacks. You know, he's very talented. Like, I like wondering what lot you know? But I just felt like, you know, I saw that show at tiring, and you said the exact same thing to them. And that's what I said too. And that's what I was thinking too. But it's easier send nut because. Partially what I got into this. Why why I appreciate the platform that I have right now is the fact that you can affect so many people at such a rapid amount of time because there's been instances to where I don't know if you've ever remember that movie what women want? Gift what Mel Gibson, but didn't watch it. And basically he could hear women's thoughts and things like that. And then there was a there was a girl in the office girl in the movie who she was planning to kill herself. Because no one really paid attention to her. She's like, no care. She's walked around with books. I applied for job. Everyone blew me off. No, one cares. I'm gonna kill myself this day. So she was planning to kill herself. And he'd heard her because he could hear what women. Thank he heard thoughts, but initially didn't really pay attention to it until later on. He realized she was missing from the office. And then he liked ran to go find her and and essentially saved her life. But my thing is, and that's a quote that I live by with great power comes great responsibility. Like what if there's someone that's dealing with something in a certain time? And yes, I didn't ask to be put in that position. But they you know, they just decided, oh, I'm just gonna reach out. Send a message before I kill myself this day on one's gonna respond almost going. To care. And I happened to read that message and talk that kid off the ledge, and that kid becomes fucking wins the Nobel peace prize later on in life like that's a responsibility that I have that not in. I didn't put that on myself. But that I have with the the gift that I've been blessed with to touch so many people. And so how am I going to know that if I never read any of my messages or comments and things like that? Yes. Of course, I you know, the negative ones. Yeah. Blue and blow it up. But how do I know it's negative. I don't read it in all. So that's what I'm saying. It's easier said than done. It's like I read this. If now what I do is. I read if I even feel like it's getting negative, dilly, dilly, dilly. I can't read them all because after that fight fucking. I got thousands. I'm sure so I can't read them all but every now and again when I'm bored enough, and I have time like I'll read some because sometimes it is good good. But in that time, it's easy. Thanks. Those Email I shit. You not it was yesterday. I posted a picture. There was one guy that responded to me forty to fifty people on negative shit. Oh, yeah. On like what we will die. Give out his Instagram. You're gonna die in this. And you know, what I did? I just blocked. I it's like, oh, man. You knocked the fuck out. You're going to do this. I'm like, oh my God like, bro. Really? You literally took your time out of your day sit here today was knocked GR and he'll face magin on my God. I wish we could do that. And he answered it gets you answers the doors bent. He looks. Just fucking belly out. Like, this is never traded date life Robbie. Did you think you'll go Robbie Lawler fight with Ben? Oh, man. Like, I mean, come on. They gotta run that back. I I was thinking when it was over that herb demanded mistake. But the more I watched damore think he didn't. I think what happened was I think Robbie went out. I think his arm dropped. And I think when herb came over this is what Ben says too that he loosened up the choke a little bit and Robbie came back to it. And Robbie probably doesn't even know because Robbie such a fucking savage. He probably didn't even know he went out. But no kids. Yeah. You know, this is the argument, and this is why has to be ran back. Yeah. Good arguments back. You know, this is argument because first of all when when when Robbie ran that truck through Ben's face like he was out funny way of putting it he he was out and welcome he recovered. I mean, he got hit with some fucking bombs, but we're freaking wrestlers. The one thing about wrestlers at the elite level is you can be out of it. But your body will naturally go through certain. Motions grab a leg. Pull. I think he was probably was bombing on them. Robbie Renner Mack truck through his face like does under his action by pulled up fight up truck through his face. Like, I feel like Robbie knocked him out. Walk him up. Knock him out Robbie was just savage mode. And that's one thing about a known Robbie now because I trained with him is Robbie such a different guy. Like, he's so nonchalant, and well, he handled a loss classy, but that's Robbi man that they and the explanation. This is the thing with explanation is you could argue defy should have been stopped. When Robbie was was bombing on him. You can argue that for sure, but at the same time Robbie explains it is Robbie has so much experience. And it was a bulldog. It's like big brother choke. So you know, it could have been doing anything, but Robbie explained it as I put my hand down because this wasn't doing shit it. You'll relax, you know, because I don't wanna panic Robbie has that much. Experience. He should know. What to do? They maybe that's what he was doing could not the way he put his arm down. It looked like it was out. But then when rob when herb dean came to check on him her while he was giving the thumbs thumbs up her Dane didn't really give him a chance to put the thumbs up and stops the fight, right? Then and there, but as far as I loosened, the choke that's why he came to know fucking needle, loosen, the choke until this the ref pulls you off of him or you pop is head off lightened up when herb came over. 'cause he thought that her what's going to stop the fight because he felt Robbie go limp. You don't lie. Not because you'd think someone's going to stop a fight. You don't you? Don't appoint you don't lie. You know, because you think you squeeze harder because you want to make him stop the fight. I see a point. And also there is a difference between squeezing someone out and beaten on them when the referees coming if the referee comes and you stop punching because guys out that's one that's one thing. But you don't you have them in a bald ear here ensure survival mode. You can't like really you. Ramon. That's but. Bowl talk chokes are legit, man. I mean, they really do work. Yeah. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna listen. I'm not gonna say lost the title. Yeah. I'm not gonna say and caught him in a bulldog. Choke. Yeah. I'm not gonna say that don't work. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna you know, he could have been out. He could been out button. The only way to to put that alter razz is to run back. But what what kind of sucks is when you're not, you know, I pass. I mean, my pass what what come on? He said he didn't want to fight them in the first place. Well, no shit. Yeah. We'll sensational Robbie fucking Savary. We're gonna watch it right now. Here we go. We're going to watch this shit. Then look at the body. Laughing. How are you? You could start. That that's not ideal combat sports body. Like it did. But it is amazing that he's able to get a hold of Robbie. I was stunned. No, I knew he was going to get a hold on. I thought right away. This sat out was crazy, boom. Now eat that eat that eight that he's a big shots. Go to sleep go to sleep go to sleep. I'm out Otis. Thank you still there. He's stole evidence is out. No hands. No, no. I don't think. So I think he's eating a shot. And then he's got the clench. I don't think he was ever out. Now, they they were certain moments. He he's he's well, he definitely eight some big shots. But I don't think there's any evidence at all that. How me this out? This is like banners. Toughest shit. Like, I give credit. What credit toughest hell, man. He's tougher cell. And right now, he's just drunk driving right now he drunk driving. And he's wanting drive. He's driving right? And I look at this drunk driving. But now Robbie books free. See I forget the actual Ceram scramble that led to the bulldog. Choke. It happens from being Robbie tries to get up because he does get the take. Oh, look, he's drunk driving on my my a lot of blood you kind of on the nasty left-hand there. Yeah. Like. Is looking for looking for a bomb and bandages moving forward. Kombi? He's still a hold of them. Interesting interesting that he was able to grab a hold of them because I would have thought the Robert Wood avoided that shed at all costs. But that that's why able to grab a hold of someone. He's when someone is. So you know, worried about you grabbing them, and they they kind of shuts them down a little bit couldn't needs the body there by Robbie. Yeah. Thing you didn't the tyrant fight those fucking body shots. Good lord. How is trying to take that home? You hit him with so many right hands the body. So here we see Ben Clint. Yeah, he's doing a good job. Here is trying to he's trying to come to. He's trying to recover doing a good job keeping a close. Now. You can't get really get hit with big shots. You know? And he does get the take down at some point. Yeah. Do not remember how it happened. Or what was here? It is here it is he reaches down. So he's got him in the clinch year. He's got the under hook on the left side. And so some okay, grabs the leg. Do this interesting. I don't remember this all I remember is the open exchange and then the final exchange. Yeah. Two two on online. He's right now. He's trying to go to one. Yes. Good job. So he's the single single Robbie done a good job. Now, his hands class together to amazing to me a good of a wrestle here. I'm going to be honest with you that, but it's just it's just funky because it's like not really muscles there. That's just like Gumby. But. You know, it's not going anywhere. It's tricky. Yeah. Yeah. Very very sneaky, very tricky down. And now, rob is on his back is sort of inside guitar. Okay. So now, he's got an arm. Yeah. Typical Robby Robby is just chilling boom eastern circles. Al he's got the headlock. Okay. Now. Let's get the headlock. And now watch that rice this position this position. She Robbie puts it down. Yeah. It's moving. Yeah. Yeah now. Yup. See change my mind again. Yeah. Like, see? That's that's what's tricky about. This tricky about that changed my mind again. I don't think he was out. Now, see cause. Back it up to just to the arm going limp. Because the thing about the arm. Going limp is the way it went limp. Looked it really looked like he was out. Okay. But this is this is what I'm saying. Right here is initially in a situation. Wait, wait till he turns wait till he turns when right right, which he pull his arms out boon right here. See this is uncomfortable. Yeah. This is very uncomfortable. You're spread out here and the guys choking on your neck. You gotta bring one down to relieve pressure other that one down or take this one inside a Robbie did the appropriate thing or the arm fell down whether he was out. So man. It's tough goal, man. One more time see that armed drops. Just back it up just a little bit. Here drops domini moves it immediately yet. Both so hard to know. Yeah. He he's been dealing with the. Yup. And that age my mind typical Robbie man. 'cause Robbie says Robbie says, man. Yeah. Experience. He said man, I knew that that was come through. So I just put my arm down Chilin. Yeah. That's and that's it now. Now, I'm on your side. Fuck Br I gotta run. I only want you have to run that back. I would I would say so, but the how much can you have see towel him? What to do like, what could you have seek what he said to Ben Oscar, and listen this fight has to happen again. That's like that's the sport were in the judge the jury, and if they want the execution. What is it been what did Dana white say after the fight? He said he wanted Ben to fight him again. Right. Yeah. Said we're going to run that back. And then like not pass, man. I don't know Robbie's like, yeah, we got to do it again. Well, I know Robby was England for a fight with Darrin tail but after MAs Vidal start staring till which was nasty, man. Steep people sleep on Maswadeh all they do. Not know why I don't understand it. Go back and watch those backyard. That guy's been going at it a long time. Hey, man, and any man, that's he to the both backyard. He's just add again this weekend. I know that was crazy. It's about you know, it's I you can't just talk like nowadays. It's this error. You could just say whatever, you feel that you could say what you want because his social media, you get fans on your side in this now, and he just happened to say to the wrong guy at the wrong time. Like, that's that's the situation. And you did it backstage to Macedonia and give fuck this mutual. I think I think it's a mutual respect with me a mouse with all like respect him in all I mean, if we have to fight we have the fight one day, but you know, like, we feel the same when it's like if you're gonna talk shit online when I see you keep the same energy like when I saw Ben Ashwin backstage. Right. The only thing that stopped me from pushing his head through that wall back there. It was the fact that I almost blacked out blacktop when I was walking towards him. Then I realized Dana was right behind. So you were angry. It wasn't that. I was angry. It was the fact that bro. Like if. You're you're you came at me online. Like you had a problem with me? Right. Like, you started talking Madge shit to me like you had a problem like saying things putting up means. And all this to me that means you have a problem. I don't know what I did to you. But you got a problem with me. So when I see you now like, I want you to still have that same energy don't just act like, we're cool. What's up, bro? Yellow we wanna hug it out. Don't act like that act. Like, you still have the problem same problem? But he thinks he's just trying to market, and Ben I never that's that's fun anger that's out towards that. But that's what I'm saying. That's the thing. Like people are kind of letting them off with certain things. Now, what happens if mass with all would starts him like that backstage 'cause he did talk shit to what happened if that was him Maskhadov starts like that. What happens? Yeah. You know? So that that was my thing is I when I saw him backstage, I almost wanted to push his head through the wall, but not rely data's by Brian's by when it happened months. Now in in in England because they don't like that shit over there. I don't know. I think he got away free free. Really? I haven't heard anything everything's fine as any back array, that's hilarious. But that's case because that's the salt. But I mean, I guess it's it's hard to say assault when you're dealing with. You have see fighter. Right, right. It's a hard. He played basketball off the cob -solutely, you know, it's hard to say, it's a tricky situation. Right. But he struck him out in the parking lot. And yeah. Baseball. But I think data Dana put out a statement saying that that can't happen anymore. We gotta do a better something like, well, you should do a better job of having security around two separate guys. Let me near Ben aspirin or caloric. Old was one time not before this fight. But before previous fight where you are backstage. It was actually was it a press conference press conference, and you were trying to talk to Colby like what's up, man? Yeah. I was scheduled to fight Santiago punts in ebor. That's right. And we were doing a big press conference. And they happen to have like I didn't even know he was there because they hit they had them hidden away. Soul time it wasn't until we were gonna get on the bus to go the press conference. He came downstairs like we're all meeting lobbying. I saw him and right away. I told I I don't know what it is. I just I my I just started their blood, my blood just started balling. I started to read. I was I read man, that's not gonna work where you'll you gotta move Reeves. I were getting them right now are moving and read put it puts him in a different car and every other fighters ride together. And this is what I mean. He's already isolated. That's awful. So we get there, but we have to line up to walk out. So he's lined up and he happened to be in my vicinity. And I just free. I I'm I was trying. I was I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not gonna say I just look at him. You'll see us talking all that shit online. Now. Now, we in person, you can't talk what's up, but all that shit. She was talking online. You thought you was tough what what's up with that? Was that tough guy? Now, he's just like, I think he was reading his lines. Like what he was going to say when he got out there press conference is reading and he heard me, and he's like, I don't want to say shit. I get my ass right here. And I could sell although starts was contemplating and Whitaker was standing next to him and Whitaker. Does one of these joint light look around? Fuck this new talking to. Because I had to watch the video over and over where co low by light. He ain't talking to me. And then saw Kobe is always talking to Kobe so Whitaker just kindly slid off to the side. Get I'm like what's up with all that shit us talking. And then he's like, quiet quiet, and then he sees the security kinda 'cause then they heard me and security kind of walks. I didn't even know there was a camera back there. And then security walks up as a curious like, oh, no, no. We don't need this. We don't need this in this. What Prescott Coby was about? The is was after the Connor could be bus situation. Yes. And so they're not you who don't need this this week. We don't need this. And now wants this security. He goes he goes stick to stick to stick to a network television junior. Stick to this. Boy, you not my network television. What does that mean at because I guess he's fighting in his first fight on now, pay per view. This is the thing you run FOX. Yeah. But this is the thing is he has never headline headliner car. To this day. I don't think he's ever headline card. Yeah. No, he headline of card did even Donna pay per view. But when when he fought hustled dos Anjos that was the main wasn't known Coleman event under you'll Romero. And and what accor- oh, Chicago. He's never had my car. Wow. Never never headline the card. Well, you might be right and about. Yeah. And he's like is like stick to network. How Mike I'm fucking headlining like, bro, you've never done shit. And so he's trying to play that angle and all this. And that and I was just you were right. Look at that. What Romero too? Yeah. He's never Covington. He fall Damien Maya on an undercard. I think it was like on the main card, but. Pumpkin. Michael jackson. Tremendous fife. No, it's it's man. I was impressed with him Pete. And does Andres. I really was I thought that was impressive. And what way well because he beat those yet because it's. Yeah. I give that. Yeah. You beat already RDA's a name like toughest hell former champion. Yes. I give but already a one rounds. Audio one fourth and fifth round audio is taken him down. Like you saw already took him now numerous times. Well, he didn't let me just clarify didn't beat him as impressively as you. Did. That's now. Yeah. I shut up. I don't really care. I don't really care about all that stuff. Like, man. It's my thing is over all in all Joe like I've been on such a journeyman my whole life. I've been on such journey I've dealt with so many things that I internalize, man. And I don't really talk about. So I don't really care. What all these guys are doing man, I've had a hard life. Not the hardest. I'm not as the hardest life. But I've had I've had a lot of things that happened to me live to where I'm at this point in life for a man, I'd I don't I don't want to deal with all the, hey, I don't want to deal with all this other stuff. I understand it's gonna come with the sport that we do. But man, I got bigger shit going on in my mind that I have. I'm worried about rather than all that little things, man. Good for you. That's like I said your attitude in so many ways is so good that you you're there to compete that you're you're there to do your best. You're not getting caught up in bullshit and petty nonsense. And you know, you just putting pressure on yourself to be the best you could possibly be. That's that's where that's where you see real greatness. Yeah. And I mean like and like Tyronn was man. There's a does you're staying to her you you get to a point where you have to. You're the guy who has to provide. You're the guy who has to hold up, and it's not not necessarily people saying you have to do it. But you you feel that sense of responsibility, and in in my family, I felt that I feel that sense of responsibility. Like, there's one that your family when you were growing up. Yeah. You know, like, I when I say I come from humble beginnings. You're like between raised in Jerry like, and it wasn't like the village village where we lived in huts, and we had a house, but it wasn't. We didn't have plumbing in oh, we had to go to the well or get water. We electric city was rare. That's a scarce thing. You know? And. To where we even when we came here when we immigrated here yet life got a lot better. How old are you came here about eight years old, and it was hard to adjust to the school system in because kids were kids kids are mean talked with the funny accent and kids would tell you. Hey, why don't you say this to the teachers? Hey, hey bitch. Call it, and I was always in the principal's office because I had no idea what that means. And things like that. So kids are cruel. I had dealt with all that in English when you came here. Yeah. We spoke English, but it's pidgin English. So we knew that like, you know, colonized by the European. So the English is the war ruled of the words root words are from the European. So we knew English, but it's just our take on it. And so how much different it's pretty different. I it's very different. Like if I was talking with another Nigerian. I was speaking patient English you pick out words, but it's a little different. But can you say something in pidgin English? Yeah. Not all right now. We're just not here. Just. Doc now, you're not so she's not just talk just a Yanni, Donna, I know I'll be any t that's how it was cool. It does if like me and Israel on his on. You're talking like either. It'd be mad cool. We speak to each other. So going from that to, you know, being essentially raised and and and going through school, and and one thing that man, I haven't I really haven't ever shared with anybody. You know, very very few people know is that my father has been incarcerated since two thousand nine. And this is the first time really, I'm you know, ever talked about it like been caught. My dad was goes through test is just the Justice system here, man. So so so crooked, and it's so backwards. Yes. Of course, we're fortunate like there's so many things that were thankful for living here in this country that you know, you can sleep at night in your house and not worry about somebody breaking robbing and killing you, you know, for the most part and to remember thankful for that with thankful for the opportunity. But my dad was a businessman and my dad built one of the a very very big business in Dallas the own like an ambulance company and. You it comes to a certain point where people just don't want to be your you're an immigrant and your succeeded in a certain business where it's kinda like people don't care about people. Don't want you to be there. And you know, it was one of those situations where my dad hire the people that he thought were the right people to do what he didn't know the job to run his company while he contend tend to certain things like us like his family day to day different things. I cared about to where they run the company into the ground. And now because my dad was the owner of the company they put it all on him, even on the people that were doing, you know, the things that were wrong in the company admitted to doing the wrong things. But what the court is saying is that oh because you own the company so ignorance is it's not an excuse. So because of that we're going to sentence you to fifteen years. So he. He got sentence when he did no crime. Yeah. I'd say that was the business hit my dad owned an ambulance company, an ambulance company. Yes. So it was a transportation for emergency and non emergency. You know, and one thing that he hired these like, the the the paramedics EM AmEx to run the company because these people that that know the business so he had people that he hired from that equality acquired from a different company. But you know, one thing that I would say is my dad's ignorance is is he didn't really do his research. Well enough on the guys that he hired. So you hire certain guys. And now these guys running the business, and these guys are like, yeah, we're gonna make you. We're gonna help you grow this business like any businessmen. Fuck. Yeah. I heard the right people. Yeah. Helped me grow the business. So now, they're helping he's they're doing now if he thinks okay I trust. These guys are taking care of business and the the the most disappointing heartbreaking thing about the businesses. My dad, they're not they're not the one who does the Bill in the billing for the business. The. A contract difference as an outside company to do the Bill. So it's not them doing. So they're doing the runs. They're sending notes to them. This is runs. We did to you guys Bill the government or whoever else to pay us, my dad's the owner, he has people that are doing all this. He's not there running the day to day. So eventually they go under investigation on we're investigating night. I think maybe like fifteen patients or something like that. I don't know the exact number fifteen patients were investigating for these runs or whatever that would build this in on them. And so they put it all in the investigation, and they're like, okay. After a while they come back, and they said, all right? We'll give you your stuff back like we didn't really see anything. But we'll give you yourself back after they shut it down for a little while so down. I gotta go back to so my dad's like fucking I'm getting out of business. They're killed my business for me. So now became one of the biggest company but shut down for so long. You've lost. You know, what you've worked for? So now he's getting rid of getting out of it. Then they come back later few years later for the same thing that I've already said, you're good here. Have your stuff back? They come back and say, no, we're we're going to prosecute you for this. So now, those guys I, and I've I've seen this is obviously how the feds work those guys that you call it the EMS, and these guys that were clearly did robes wrong. You gave them a deal and say, hey, we caught you guys 'cause those guys started their own company doing the same share? So they get caught. Now. They're like, okay. We want that guy. So you guys basically gave him a deal to say, okay? That that guy was in on and my dad's. I, and I guess they offer my data deal a plea deal, which his lawyer didn't really tell him about because he had corn appointed a lawyer a lawyer. So he said, no, I didn't do shit wrong. Why would I take that deal which would have been I think maybe like five years it was the deal or something like that? No, I didn't do shit wrong. Why would I take five years? So he goes to trial and Br we've seen murderers, we've seen all these people that are defrauded the government like stock mar- hedge fund guys billions of dollars get bail. They said, no, they won't even grant him bail. My dad has set his in like turnovers passport and everything they said, no, I'm not going to give you Bill. We're going to hold. You a freeze all your accounts. You can't really fight the case. So you stuck there? And now your family's left with nothing nothing no money in the account nothing. And so my dad's deal with that. And they just do the book happened. We'll give you fifteen years, and this was two thousand and nine he's been for ten. He has been in for ten and. One thing. I really killed me was one thing was a partner trial where the lawyer would basically tell him the judge like this guy's an upstanding guy. No, correct. Heard. You know, he has kids look at his kids on how well they're doing his older son is in college. The second one is in college. The the youngest is about to being college. These kids are all scholarship student athletes, grits student, athletes, and one thing that killed me was the prosecution ones, I the reason that is is because he was defrauded the government from this money. That's why they're in college. And I was like way my dad's not paying for us being God, we're all student athletes we earned this. We worked hard. Earn scholarships as far as being college. The defense didn't say that they didn't fucking see like a court appointed attorney, I think he did. And probably my dad's just got railroad at man. And it was like an it was it was so heartbreaking to where you're telling the man that has raised his family raised his kids to to work hard get to a place in life. And you're telling him that the only reason is there is because he cheated, and it was just one of those things that added a chip on my shoulder at all men. There've been so many moments that added chip put chips on my shoulder with everything that I I've been through so much that I just internalized and I compete with all this energy. And so two for that. You you tell them my dad that like you going to sit down, and I just and obviously, of course, I researched more and more into that. Because I was so heartbroken after that. Like, my like you've just gonna for what for how much you're saying. Not even up to almost a million. They would this day just piled a lot of. Money on there. Like, oh, this isn't that for a little over other saying little over a million total which is nowhere near that. You gave him fifteen years when these guys hedge fund guys that that you found guilty for manipulating these markets for billions, you give them six months house arrest if that and you're saying you're gonna give him fifteen years not starting resource. I'm like a lot of these judges have stakes in these prisons, and to what they do is they give a lot of time because they get paid per prisoner. That's n we know that story about that guy in Pennsylvania. It was a it was a judge, and he was doing that he was sending kids to jail he was extending their sentences and giving them sentences for nothing, and it turned out he'd been getting paid by the president scale of the river. Yeah. I heard a lot of them get like kicked bags and different things from that. And so to put people there become more and more famous, you shed, more and more light on this, man. And it's your dad do for parole, man. I don't I don't even know think soon. Listen to this podcast alone. You talking about this could very well. Bring someone Ford that wants to help you with the appeal. Yeah. And my my dad actually wrote because don't Obama administration. There was that whole clemency deal when they when they were doing my dad actually wrote a letter actually have that letter. I don't know where it put it. But he wrote a letter to him. And it was when I read the letter, man, I I can't help a cry about it. Because my my dad. It's my dad cares about his family. And when I go to see my dad because my dad, so proud of me, and and I'm so proud of him. I mean, he raised us so well and to go see him in there. And I mean, it's not like he's sitting in the maximum security. But for someone to tell you that you can't go home to your family at night for tell you you gotta sleep when we told you to sleep. We got you gotta eat when we tell you to E for ten years. And when you know, I didn't do anything wrong because I chose to say, no, I didn't do anything wrong. I'm not gonna take the sentence. You give me they say. Okay, fine that you were going to sit in there for fifteen years, and there's nothing you can do about it is a man broke, my heart, man. And when I think about it, some I just hold an because I, you know, I try not to cry about it, which I'm dislike screw it. I've different situations that happen in life. I'm like, you know, but I ate that one up on the shoulder. Put that chip on like, you know, what they're going to say that the reason I'm here that was scholarship is. Because my dad they're saying my dad got money a little bit of money. Are you serious? What about the frigging hard work that I did to get here? What about all the times that I sat in a freaking hot box might bathroom upstairs, which is trash bag on. Because I knew that I needed to get a pound off the next day in order to be able to wrestle at this JV tournament. What about all that you know, that didn't make any difference? You know, the reason the only reason there is because of that what about all the times. My brother ran worked hard to make national team when he's playing soccer or my little brother getting numerous scholarship for division one football everywhere. Like that what? So all that put a chip on my shoulder Joe to where it was like man, I got to succeed at all. 'cause I don't I don't really care where where did this happen? Where was this trial in Texas in Dallas, Texas, not the best place to have happen? Happen. But it happened in an man. Put a sour taste in my mouth. But file an appeal. Any follow them peel one time, they look at it, man. It was like one of those things where it's like that judge. They put you there. You're there, douse his domain. They didn't even look at it like. Who cares? Does this feel like using the system? Walter way champion, but I think they treated him like that. 'cause you're emigrant putting the system get in there. And that's you know, Joe let to wrap that put that on. That's part of what this next fight symbolizes to me is the attitude that a lot of people have towards immigrants as people are forgetting that Americans are immigrants. I just having that conversation last people are forgetting that. Yeah. And to where I our country yet to where people have this attitude where where Americans go back to your country. You know, you know, co back this is a free country or this. And that people like always heard that growing up. I always heard that. And I I the more I research, I'm like, what are you talking about first of all this this whole attitude when you walk into a nail shop, get your hand feet nails done who the majority of the people that run those nail shops, Asians. I'm not saying all of them in the world in country, but the majority of them Asians. But there's a lot of people that look down on it. Like, I'm not washing your feet. I'm not gonna do you. Now notice before I take pride in that. Because that provides for them, you know, they do that, you know, but people people condemn it. That's not a job. People wanna do when you go to these hotels and certain things who are the main people that are the maids clean up the hotels a lot of them immigrants. We take pride in them. Because now we're in the country in a better place where we can provide for families. Those jobs are a lot of people so-called Americans the whole Kobe Covington whole persona are like I'm above that. I'm above that. That's the persona, but then at the same time people now want to cry all the here taking our jobs. Let's build a wall. Let's keep them out there taking on job. Now, they're providing they're helping this country get to it's height. The fact that you could come here have someone do your nails someone clean your house when wash your car, someone do all this for you. As part of what makes it merica? So great one of the. Greatest nations in the world. And the fact that we want to build a wall you want to keep these people out. You can't come here. You can't bring your culture your stuff here. It just saddens me. And upsets me as part of what this fight when it happens is fight represents for me because I feel like that's the attitude that this young man has he's entitled to I'm I should be US champ your soya. Boy, you you don't want desert. You can't hand with me. Boy, that's his attitude. You can't do this. Boy, first of all who's your born. I'm going man, don't fuck and talk to me like that. And that's the attitude that he has I'm entitled to this. I'm I I should be a champion because I am this way. I'm American amiss. Bro. We're all American here. And so this fight is greater than than just me beaten up a guy that's talking a lot of shit. There's this. This fight means a lot to me. So when I get the chance to put my hands on that guy. Let's just know this the wrath of every immigrant that I've stepped foot in this country that I'm gonna put on him. Were you and your family are the ideal immigrants absolutely over overachievers? I mean, this is what like first of all what is it about Nigerians that do so well in this country, that's one of the if you look at like Nigerian immigrants like successful ratios of of different immigration groups, Nigerians in particular are extraordinarily successful upon emigrating to America. I think it's a family family thing is when when your families decide, and we get opportunity to move to a better place. The thing is that the whole persona is we're going to be able to sustain this forever. So my kids are not gonna just play around in sports because that's not guaranteed. Right. What is guaranteed is? The fact that you're going to go to school when you're gonna become a doctor because you're going to get a job anywhere in the world that you want. That's why majority of them are doctors. Right majority of doctors engineers because these are jobs that high demand jobs, you're always going to get a job anywhere. Yeah. And so that's all that's all he pushed you're going to be a doctor or you're going to be a nine an engineer. None of them are saying, you're going to be a professional athlete. My parents. Hell, no. They didn't care for that. Like, I liked to them the first couple of years that I was wrestling on Intel him that you know, my brother is a doctor in pharmacy in Dallas, my little brother, you could have gotten NFL. It was a of football play. Played at university of Houston and university of Arizona in my sister. Now is in college she's nursing school in college. Like, that's just what we push we want you to get a job that you can provide for your family forever. They remind me at Koreans and a lot of ways. Absolutely. Yeah. Super hard working. And appreciate once they've gotten to a place like America where there really is no ceiling on the possibility. You could do anything you want? What you get here. If you work hard. Absolutely. And then this is that's another thing. That's dear to my heart is one ear Nigeria like when you're in a situation that we were at my mom was a teacher. My mom owned. The store to two little convenience store. We did little jobs on the side with sold certain things on the side and on top of it raising three boys rowdy boys like. That that's what we in the school. We didn't it wasn't like, oh, there's the car the buses going to pick you up at three seven AM to go to school. Now, the school was two miles away three miles away you walk in you better. Get going don't be late because if you got the fuse let us going to get a weapon before school started. That's how it was. And especially the education system is so high because you miss you miss a couple of answers on tests. You had to go out and get a sweat, and you're gonna get whipped in school for the answers that you midst tells beat you in school. Yeah. Absolutely. The teacher the teacher. The teacher was first of all it's not teacher is on call and on Desio encore neurons in school. They knew your parents your family. They were gonna whip you in school if you decided the domes- up, and that's how it was. So that's why there's a lot of these smart Nigerians, they'd get out. And if there's no frigging job, we got to somehow make money so fucked up because I don't want people to be kids. But god. Damn when you put kids into that kind of pressure. My parents put me Catholic school for one year, and I got excellent grades and afterwards. I was fucking Terry. Terrible, man. And I remember stepfather said something May- said your grades were only good when you were in Catholic school skills. Fucking terrified down ain't a good move. I mean, it's like they're threatening me all the time. They wanted to beat me and make me sit on nail in the closet. But is this. I don't I don't I would never want you to go through that. But the fact that you went through the his probably one of the reasons why you're the man you aren't today. That's humanity. That's what I call humanity because as human beings when we grow in like you hear it's all the time with parents want a better life for my kids want a better life for my kids. Yes. Absolutely. That's what we want. We want to present them with endless possibilities. But you can't forget the fact that the reason you're the champion or the upstanding person that you are today's because you went to this hard thing. Are all these hardships molded you. And that's part of the the situation. Now is like everyone's I Ono want these kids play these sports is too tough too rough. You know, they could get her. They can get that. Or that could turn into a freaking champion. He can get knocked on his but fifty times that one fifty one time it gets up and says, you know, what screw this. I'm going to be a champion to that. So, but you could do other things you could I think a guy like you could do anything. But once you've achieved what you've achieved in MMA. And in wrestling, the kind of mindset that makes you push your body to the limit like that and allows you to get your your you just just your body into the kind of condition that made you fight five rounds like that against tyrant. That's an extraordinary mind. I'm thankful I'm thankful for this one thing that I always say as I'm thankful for every individual that I've crossed paths with because when I really look back in my life, and I internalize a lot of things like how did I was a little. I mean, I was a fricking pip squeak in Nigeria carrying this hot plate on my head to go, sell, you know, up and down the street. How did I I never imagined that I would get to the point where I would run into all these different wrestling coaches. I would pour knowledge into me. Even if for every and this is shot out to every coach if you've ever saw me, I was drilling a move, and you came over and just corrected me. Or you said non on the this way, you know, even if it's just moment an inch in my life. A you did all of that contributed to the person that I am today to all those coaches all those people all my mentors that given me advice each and everyone because I never knew that across paths. Like, look how crazy my life is I crossed paths with John first time I've ever seen. It may. I was John j-o-h-n. I want my belt on the same card as John Jones. You know, I stayed when I went to visit John Jones I stayed in the same room that Kobe Covington state in the following year. When he went to school with John Jones. How fucking crazy is that? That's pretty fucking crazy. John's roommate was Joe soda who also in the UFC. Like, you know, went to the university of Nebraska at Kearney became a national champion. Same traveled wrestled with traveled along them Joe and Jake Ellen Berger Jake Ellen umbrella, you'll see Joe Ellen burger in the UFC like the like look at the past that I've crossed in this alive to get me to this point here. I'm extremely thankful, man. I at the end of the day. There's nothing that I can do that. I I gotta give it up. Like, this was a plan. I didn't this wasn't me. I didn't control they say, you know, what when I'm twenty five. And when I'm this age, I'm gonna do them and it all coming together. Like that I've been blessed. I've been very very blessed to cross paths with all these guys and and has gotten into this moment. So. I'm I'm so thankful. Why? I think it's both. You definitely have been blessed as as all of us have but not besides just being fortunate. It's you you went through the work. He went through the work, and you completed the process, you know, and that just the fact that you fought Tyronn motherfucking Woodley with a broken foot in a hernia and still dominated him for five rounds is crazy. You don't you? Don't get to that. Without having you built your mind and your body in a very crazy way. And in a way through the fires of hard work and discipline, you forge to champion. Yeah. I mean, thank you Joe like that. That's it's all it all goes back to everything like, this is how my mind works it ever since. I was little I'm one of those guys. I sound silly. But I'm gonna one trip kind of guy. When I go to the grocery store, and I'm bringing all that shit in the house. I'm a one trip carried it in one trip. I'm going to do it all I don't mind. I don't care how much it is. I'm gonna try to do it at one chip. And this is what thing that I say to myself when I'm crying all that stuff inside. Yeah hurts. Yes. Heavy yet makes no sense. The cows is literally fifty feet from the from the car, but in my mind while I'm carrying all the heavy shit. I'm just frigging. Yeah. Would want trip one trip? Tough tough tough. I've been doing that. I was a kid gets off get up. You can do it, you know, get tough, or when I'm doing sets of of stuff reps in, you know, the coaches like four sets at ten I'm doing town when I get to like ten I can do one more eleven let's get eleven bone. Get an extra seven I've been putting in extra said forever forever to where I feel like all that has built me up to where my mind is today. Your mind is there? But do you do you have a concern? Like, what we were talking about before with Cain Velasquez that your mind might be too strong for the tissue too strong for the legaments too strong for the joints. I mean, this is what I worry about with a guy like you got come mentally strong. Yeah. I have no fear of that. At all. No. I might concern was with like Cain Velasquez got this. There's certain people that I worry that they might do too much or push too hard. But the fucking problem is the only way you become a Cain Velasquez or become you is to have that mindset to begin with Joe how how else can you see came Velazquez fighting can't say it can't you can't see him train in any other way. That's what made Kane. Yeah. And and and I think that's all part of the plan. Like, there's a time for everybody. There's a time. There was a time designed for time Willie to become champion to be champion. Does it time for me to be? Championed into reign as a champion. There's a time for everybody. Of course. I'm and like I said, I I like to take all these different knowledge that I get and I like to put it all together. So of course, my coaches are now that no one tell me y'all just go home like you, you look grave, each my mind, I wanna freaking harder than I do you done. Great, go home. So where I'm listening, and I'm giving them the lead on that. But. The way I train is what's gotten me here in the way? Cain train was gotten them. They're now, it's the responsibility not just came. But everybody else that's around him that he really confides to to let him know when it's too much when it's not too much. Well, with can there's so many issues now because the surgeries have been so extensive and back surgery, knee surgeries and reconstructions not just meniscus like you. But the actual structure the knee itself. One thing that. Yeah. One thing that I would always say is. Cain. You. You can't always with with Cain with anybody else's the human body, and the human mind is so powerful, you can never say, oh, man that's fits over for that guy. Or that guy's never going to be the same. He's never know. You never know like Caine, you know, much respect can can come back and be a savage and still run through guys for sure X year or two for she'll never know. So he gets his knee. I don't know what the extent of that. That injury was. But yeah, I'm you know, I'm hopeful and optimistic that he's going to be back soon. You know? But there's I feel like there's a time for everybody. And if Cain doesn't fight like that. Can you imagine Cain fighting any other way of clashes point fighting? All no, you can't. No, you can't. That's why was there's an argument that is the best UFC heavyweight ever. He's for so for sure one of the best. You have see heavyweights Amer absolutely, no, not even the question. Yeah. Now when do they have you fighting? Colby. When is that supposed to take place? I don't know. You know, I think it's I have to get healthy first for a long long time. I've been fighting her. But I just like, I don't feel you done Panama. Yeah. Give you that guy's number. I'm gonna contact Dr Reardon give it to you. I I've been fighting for so long Joe like whether it's me or there, there's been training cancer. I could barely walk like not training walk walk for. I think the last two years my daughter laughs at me. I come down the stairs backwards. Really? I go downstairs backwards because release pressure on my knees Jesus Christ. And my daughter laughs at me. But. I it was it was a time. I couldn't walk. That's crazy before Leon Edwards fight. I fought Leon Edwards years ago before that fight. I could walk. I shit you not so walk down to and from the house like from the car to the house. It was impassioned I walked on grass. I couldn't walk on concrete because I felt like that relieved a little bit more stress. Like, that's the extent of the pain that I've been in some of these fights his fucking insane though, this is during the camp during the camp just to make it to the fuss just walking on grass instead of concrete walking on grass instead of concrete because he's softer cry. And it doesn't it's not as much hard hard surface to walk on. So just win the fight came on you just put it all side. When I watch it at cage. Fuck it. Let's go. This is a matter of me getting maybe ten thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars. Let's go I chose to be here instead of sitting in front of instead of sitting at a desk may earn money to provide for my family. This is how I'm gonna do. And like I said Joe. Oh, like, my daughter lit a frigging fire on Joe. Yeah. Man when I was a -able man, and you had her carried her. I want her to she's around when she. Yeah. When she goes up, I want her to remember that forever because she lit a fire. I part of remember we're talking about the the tank that you have in there part of why I'm a little scared to be locked in those tank is because I'm never been claustrophobic ever in my life. I never was. But there was a time when I found out that I was going to have her that my girl was pregnant with her time. I. I'm fricking live with Rashad Evans. I have no money. My Bank account. I'm broke as hell and. I am having a child and I'm not married yet. And these are especially these principles, your African parents. I got to be married and things like that. I'm not married yet. Of course, her mom phenomenal woman phenomenal. And I'm not married and all this things happening. I was fucking my mind, I was panicking. And I fight before that I just lost. This is after I lost the second fight. Now. I'm getting ready for the third fight. And there was this doctor doctor's office that we go in and and sleep in the hyperbaric chamber because we heard you better for your body and stuff like that. So that'd be doing here. And there once a week, I go in and sleep in the like, the plastic ones zip you up, and then it compresses, and I was in there and one time I was in there. And I started thinking I usually pass out. And when it starts to decompress, I wake up I'm in that thing. And I wake up, you know, but it hasn't been compressed yet, you know. So I never. Really thought anything of it on risconsin in there. And I'm in this office in this room. It's dark because the the nurses they've flipped light off. And they go on about their business tended to other patients. And I'm like, okay shit. Gotta fight this fi. I choke down. That's fine. Okay. It should happen. Again. Let's do they say this dude is this as they say is doing it's he he crap. I have a daughter shed. I'm pro got no money. I got a witness fi because I'm fighting for like two thousand dollars one at one if I went in two thousand dollars all this should go into my head. Now, this take hasn't decompressed the room is dark. No, I'm here. Nothing. No, nurses. So now on start to get hot day. And I started getting a little hot in the Tang on my. Okay. So now my body's getting a little hi, I'm laying there. Not I started dripping. My forehead is dripping sweat. So I'm trying to control my relax, bro. Done this many times. Relax. You've got this this tanks. Good. I can't see the clock. So I don't know how much time has gone by. Now, I'm freaking the fucking. It's like I'm stuck in this to I don't know what's going on. I am I died here. I don't know. What's going on these? You gotta get me out of here. No. So I'm like, relax, relax. So I'm bringing my mind back. Relax ticket cheap breath. You good. You got what you what you worried about? I'm having this conversation in my mind back and forth. Relax, good. So I relaxed. I'm like, I think how you gonna knock this. Do that jab jab want to bomb? Okay. So now, I'm calm. I'm calm. But what if he kinda what the left hand Boone knocked out? Now. I'm sweat. Geez. Joe I say you I was wearing so bad. So I started tapping on the thing like, you know, I don't wanna freak out because I still gotta be cool. I won't let these nurses knowing like, I'm freaking I'm a fire. I'm freaking out in his tank. So I'm tapping on the day. I might you know, trying to ask them. I a how much time we got live just at least hear another voice. Right. Nothing. Nothing that they can't hear me. 'cause it's loud the tangled loud. And i'm. Relax. I'm full on panic attack in their full on panic attack. And I'm trying to bring myself back. I'm calming myself down. And I'm sweating heavily like profusely nouns driven. And all of a sudden, I'm tapping this thing hard and a nurse walks in soon as she walks in and flips alive, I hear the machine start to decompress. Oh, fuck you. Thank god. And I'm like she opens a you're okay now. Yeah, I'm good. But I had a full blown panic attack in there. I have not been in a whole hyperbaric chambers. I tried to one time I probably could have done it. But if he's helping you I can't really tell my body so damaged at the time like I'm so crazy on my body. I it's hard for me to tell it's supposed to heighten recovery as opposed to heighten. But I that day like I certain things kinda make me feel a certain way. Like I've had tons of 'em is after that. But they freaked me out because you put me in the MRI machine, especially when you gotta do the head one. I gotta go in head first. And I don't like those I have to give out to get myself a pep talk and calm myself down go in there to do those now like I just did one the other last week before I got my I had my surgery and the ladies John put me, I'm not I just got 'em. I got the disc from the last one that I did last week. They doctor said I could just bring this disc in and I'm good like. Like the doctor wants us to get a new one on my. You sure about that. Got the same this year. Like, no, we gotta do 'em. How long is it going to be forty minutes for forty minutes 'cause my shoulders are wide. So I'm in there tight, right? And the machine is right here. Man, it's making and I. Yeah. I'm just it's I have to give my mind and pep talk. And I'm just I relaxed, bro. Chew me. You good. You could you got this? You can do this. And I'll let you know, my let's go let's go, let's do it. And it's not get out bone. Then we're doing it. And God forbid, I freak in wake up or my mind starts wandering twenty minutes in that. I'm just fucking halfway panic attack through the rats, but I'll get through it. Yeah. It's scary. But since that day, you know, an crazy like I at that point when I was pregnant more pregnant my daughter, I was just like fuck am I going to survive? I can't keep asking this grown, man. Rashad that works hard to support me. I can't do that. I got make my own. I gotta do this. So I was scared. I was scared. I know what was gonna happen. And then all of a sudden, you know, right? When we're having we have her boom, boom. The opportunity comes out. We're gonna do the ultimate fighter. I said. No. I don't wanna do the ultimate fighter. There were shot. Really, bro. You got to do this fucking ended up during the ultimate fighter. Boom. I wouldn't you. Ultimately, tried it. Boom. I five for the finale, boom. I do that like roller coaster. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. All the hard work, everything that I've been putting it bones stars paying off paying now making ten ten. Okay. You feel like that's that's enough to be able to. You know, sustain me until I gotta fight. Again. Gotta fight. Again. You gotta fight yet. Boom. This happens. This happens. I get with you know, amazing manager. Abdelaziz who freak him? You know, help just transform the career take it to the next level. You know, get with him. And now things are going the way that I, you know, I've been wanting them to go, boom, boom, boom, boom. Everything's ma'am. And it was just it's just motivation to keep working and every time I look at my daughter how innocent she is how sweet and wonderful. She has manages freaking it transforms me to wear. I'm and there's a video I even have a video of of her because she's been coming to the gym with me ever since. She was six months old. I should take her to the gym mom's at work she'd come into the gym with me. And when she comes to the gym. She knows what I do. She watches me. Do it all the time this video or she's she'll have she has gloves and she hits the bag to when I when I work out, and I was doing a circuit. I was getting ready for a fight and she's running around with me. And she's chair me on. She's like, let's go daddy. I'm so proud of him at like talent to my coach. And she's like come on. Daddy like, and I watch those videos. I'm decided I was always one of those hard guys run. Then I ain't gonna be no sucker when I have kids like that ain't gonna be acting like that. I can't watch video with her smile is craziest thing to me. And don't have children will never totally understand that. I know it's a different. It's a different fire that they they lie underneath humanity. Don't get motivated. Once you have kids. You're never gonna get motivated know that you probably shouldn't have just been doing that. Anyways. It changed my life for sure. Yeah. She is man. She's she's she's my little she's my low rider. She rides with me. She. I love her to death, man. I can't nothing. I can't explain it. I can't explain it. She is she's modern. She's my plus one that's fly classement. Plus, no, matter whatever I do in life from now on she's plus one. She's with me. That's amazing. Yeah. I gotta find a video. But it's so funny. It's so funny when I'm doing like a circuit, and I'm running around in you could see her run around life come on daddy. I'm so proud of him. So she's just hanging out. Now, she just hangs good. Girl like that was in Sioux six months a lot put on a strong in her car seat. Put by the side of map, boom. She just watch me train for two hours. Wow. Two hours to when she got to a certain point where we had like a daycare in the gym. And she will go in the gym. She would go to the daycare. And she was she was good there. And then to the point where now like the kids that are in our Jim are round similar age, and our coaches wife, Henry Pook. She does a good job. And she just watched them, you know, but they govern themselves. They're just play around on the other side run around. But it's not like they around harmful things in the jam. They just have a good time. That's great. You're that environment. Yeah. Man. She's like I said like a lot of people like she's so beautiful. You you're gonna be. I'm not worried like my daughter is going to have a nice one two and a hard locally you deal with that. Hey. Wow. Yeah. Man. But yes, she lit that fire. And and I dreamt about that moment. So it's so surreal Joe. I think about that moment when you interview me like, I frigging forgot your name. I'm like Joe way your name is. Yeah. Your name is. Joe fuck that's got to be surreal when they put that belt around you for the first time cab because I imagine that so many times now, it'd be let me ask you, some honestly do you like the new belt of the Obamas initially? I should talk sounds man. Not 'cause you that's all you picture that old picture, and we're human beings, people don't like change. Right. You know, that was the thing is like, oh, man. She looked like a spaceship, but have fucking thing is phenomenal. That's your Bill fun nominal. I knew belt now as phenomenal. It's amazing. It's beautiful of core. Always wanted that old bell, you know. But now it's like comparing to now like this new belt got on this colors of this country flags on it and that stones. It's amazing. I, you know, the people that are all the ones that are still hanging on it and say, oh, no. Wait till you put that belt on you, which you hold that thing, and it's super heavy, and it's amazing to major. I love it. What did you think about that the deal today where all the paper views are going to be on ESPN plus fucking UFC baby. These guys as always a way to cut out the middle, man. Yeah. Hopefully, this is it is my hope is now the pay per view scale for the fighters bumps. That's what I hope, but I hope the numbers stay high people have to subscribe now. ESPN? I believe I'm not sure that can't be because if you're paying your money like all of us, you get it free light. Because if you. It says you have to subscribe to ESPN plus in order to get a pay per view. Well, does that work with people that out of out of the country? I believe it's cheaper that. I think it's the same price. You're paying at the end of the day because I think it was like sixty five or seven. Yeah. But you gotta subscriptions subscription instead of sixty five right and comes at the subscription. Right. So you have but you have to subscribe, and you can cancel anytime. So you can subscribe. So you have to re what if someone only wants to buy one or two papers a year, they breach. Subscribe every time, I guess. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. I mean, it's it works. I mean, I I if you really want to I hope it doesn't mess with the numbers, but was in here. So he could talk some shit you, and I can't talk some shit about this. But shot was here. Brandin Brennan another guy. That's I think Brennan's do his shows got base huge like doing phenomenal. Yeah. I went to one of his shows down in Florida, West Palm Beach, Florida, and I fucking spend the shop. I didn't think he was funny. I was bored. And I let let let's go to Brennan's shop show, and I go he was freaking funny. Like, he told the whole story, man. And I I was impressed man man hats off to Brennan CIA. But he was fun. He just basic all he did was tell his story. What's going on? What went on in his life and his career? But the the twists it was freaking funny that I went backstage towards the end. I was like man that's shows. Funny on anything you were finding. But that was I was amazing. I loved it. Well, he's showing fighters if there's a path outside of fighting, absolutely. He makes way more money now than they ever made during fighting times and he's doing well, and he's happy and he's fulfilled. His got to great podcasts that he's doing. It does comedy shows just did just filmed the Showtime special. He's doing a mess amaze in which is. Excuse me, part of like all this whole shit people given tyrant giving him sit for, you know, doing music or doing movies and all this stuff like that man nam and more power to him. I'm glad that he's doing that. Because that's what we want you want all this different revenue. Streams where you don't have to get punched in the face. You fifty you gotta strategy. Yeah. And and I and I love that. And I appreciate the us. What I wanna do like freaking imagine Rian Francis. In the next Black Panther. I can see it. Right. Like what? Perfect. We should definitely that whoever's making that movie casting for that. Hey, yeah. Francis. In gun. Would you don't need to teach us accents at all like from Judea? There's not you have to teach me and have my own accent. You teach them, you know. Yeah. Could teach them authentic. Yeah. So I commend them for that. Man. You know, you thought about an exit strategy. Absolutely. I'm going to do all that. Like, I've been commentating I work with titan. No see down in south Florida show to commentator. I mean, they sometimes I'm washing on lifelock. These guys fought each other for one and one appraising like good because they want to get into the big show. Absolutely, man. Yelm, commentate for them that's on. That's on. Five. Yeah. Yeah. And so. Want to get into movies? I I've been you know, practicing. I. I think I'm gonna do it. Like, I'm not in no way, saying what they do is easy. Like those actors like I know they work hard to be able to transform and make people feel a certain way and evokes certainly motions from different people with your characters. That's a real art. So I respect and I want to learn more about the an yeah, definitely want. I wanna do movies to get more famous richer and not get punched in the face upper shore. Absolutely. What about doing a podcast you ever thought of that? Yeah. I I would love it. You know? I just this hasn't been approached with the right in with the right situation. Because thing about podcast, you don't need anybody. Yeah. You don't need shit. You just need a fucking tape player. You could use it on your phone. You could record what there's great little tiny microphones that stick in the bottom of your iphone and it worked great and just sit down and talk about shit. Yeah. We'll have to give that a try when I don't want right now is is trying to distract me. Because I I'm not one of those guys who are all. Gotta find gotta be in training camp. And if I don't have a fight I'm just doing what if you want your freaking practice every day. I'm going to practice because I like my life right now. Does you know? I don't know what to do if I don't to practice. So so you recovering from the surgery. Yeah. I'm gonna try some different things. Does it feel good though to just like slow down a little bit smell the roses? Not really because this whole week. I couldn't frigate trained like I wanted to go to the gym, and I leased hit the back excuse me, hit the bag of something. Or just you know, 'cause I think I'm an addict of that burn, of course, that that that that burn of an or cow lifting or push ups or doing some pushing yourself I'm an addict of that. And so when I don't have that is kind. Do you? And that's what made you the champion. I mean that that engines inside you what made you the champion. It only makes sense. If you if you really could just relax and kick back. I'd be nervous ugly. Because that's what they say. Oh, you change. Now J us person. Now, you know, you don't get Hollywood on us. You don't fucking hate. When people say that. Yeah. That's grossing people say he puts his love to come up with some excuses for why they don't do as well as you. Or why all and I was going to bring up too is. I saw you do because when I started researching you and watching your stuff I saw the podcast you did with freaking Jamie Foxx years ago. He's amazing fucking. I I mean, I'm such a huge. I mean, huge, Jamie Farr. Buck and talented. I mean talking to a triple threat he can do any how many people can't do. It does stand up comedy nyc chicks are in trouble sings incredible. Yeah. Women's? Oh my God. Thank you can make you laugh he can say as you with his voice, and he can freaking act, and I do your lucky day. In trouble. Man. He's he's such a genuine guy to like is known him for a long time. But he's a fucking Academy Award winning actor when he comes in and hangs out with you. You would never imagine it. I that's that's what I grab the energies. Like that is what I stole normal. It's like starting shot Evans. Yeah. Shot is the same way. Yeah. And those energies, I I really gravitate toward. Yes. I love their people don't take themselves seriously. Yeah. But they do they do like they do. But they don't pretend they're better than you or anything like I ran into Jamie fucking gas station, like six six seven months ago, some guy what time was this whole time during the day. He was actually with his daughter. She was coming from a martial arts class, and I'm getting gas in this guy pulls up in this crazy fucking car. Like, I never saw one of these things before I forget what it's called some weird SUV that looks like it's from the future. Like, oh, the Lamborghini s you know. Lamborghini, some crazy. He knows the I'll will make some crazy. I mean, I don't even know what the fuck it is. I never saw him from like, what is this thing? And I'm looking at this thing and then do rolls down to win. I goes what's up Joe? Oh, what's Jamie is this man, and so normal he jumps out of the car and starts talking people just start coming up to him. And he's like, hey, how're you doing every just totally normal? You know, what I I kind of feel a little bit of that right now because his tire because I still do the same shit. Like, I I'm still still go to the same little nutrition shop that I go to get a protein shake here and there, and I still go to the like I took my daughter to the movies before I left to go to pick. And I just rolling. It's just me me and her perfect. You know, Rick, and as long as you can't people I and people ask for pictures. And and I one guy one times Brock and fuck I can't believe you here, bro. Like, bro you serious, bro. Like this one thousand bro. You've pew here. Bro. Whose mom Brooke broken? I get a picture with Debroy. He'll miss I cried. And I was like. Yeah. Bro. Course, you could get. Yeah. You'll meet take it which angle you're going to take a couple of. I'm I'm snapping a picture, and I'm kidding. But they just couldn't believe the fact that I'm norm. Yeah. You know, that your people just normal people are just normal people are just people in. I think one of the great things about someone who accomplish something pretty spectacular is that you didn't just do that and win the world title. But you set a lot of people in motion. You know, many people watched that must been pumped up and excited about it. And then started doing things is probably a lot of people that decided to start fighting. Because once I mean, millions of people watch that fight so stop and think about how many different people must have been inspired by that how many different people saw the highlights on Instagram and on Twitter and on YouTube, and how many people got fired up because of that. And that's what I'm thankful for Jones. I'm thankful for the opportunity shot up to the UFC for creating such a business and. Marquette. Now two words you can touch so many people all across the world because that's an fighting is one thing. That's universal language. It doesn't matter if you fucking speak Russian, you speak English, we speak, you know, eat bowl or euro. By doesn't matter, you know, fighting right? This this this. Nobody knows you don't have to everybody. Cricket. Yeah. It's universal. So it's one of those things that that's a sport that's gonna just gonna grow. It's only gonna get bigger and bigger shout out to the US Dana, you know, hundred all these guys Lorenzo for all these guys that created this and banish it to the way it is now because it's given us platforms to be able to touch people. And yeah, I totally I'm I'm aware of what that could have done for certain people certain people. Yeah. Might have not thought of in individual person might someone you know, I might have inspired. So I wanna start fighting that come from where I come from somewhere in China, Indonesia, anywhere, anywhere. Yeah. Yes. I'm thankful. I'm very thankful for that. Yeah. I mean that is a big part of what a champion is. I mean, we were talking earlier about Marvin Hagler or different fighters that I watch when I was a kid coming up, those people give you energy, you know, this is something about watching someone do something spectacular. They they give you energy. And when you hear a story like yours, you know, a kid who emigrates to the United States at eight years. And goes through all the shit that you went through and becomes a world champion people here that man it makes it gets them off the fucking couch. Man. It gets them to do things. It does m. Thing about during that fight is there was two other guys to special guests that I had come to the fight. And they were both Nigerian nightmares. You know in their respectable rise sports and right Christian Koya. In Kansas City. Chiefs running back was called the Nigerian nightmare because he was a fucking terror. You know, Kristie you're gonna hold criminal court. I don't know anything about football self every laughing man is with us. Yeah. He was a fucking monster. Man. He was like a I think he was two hundred two hundred sixty pound running back like I'm talking Mack truck running through boom, boom, boom. And you know, and he has speed and power. So he was considered Niger nightmare. So he was one of those guys that people really resignation as a Nigerian nightmare in American sports. And I never watched him play live. Of course, not. But these are the guys that they create such a legacy where you're going up. Somehow you hear about that legacy. And that inspired me to wanna be great barren that nickname and also Samuel Peters aren't of store. P Samuel, Peter. WBZ everywhere champion the wall was at the fights shot. A man these guys I I didn't. I never saw him fight live. But he creates such a legacy to where I heard about him. Yeah. I had to research them. And these guys inspired me to wear now having that nickname. You gotta you know, I have to hold it to hires regards. I have to do the best that I can to be able to inspire many many kids that are gonna come you know, in the future. So man, I'm thankful for the opportunity and just grateful as I'm I'm I'm a humble a little kid from Nigeria walk around barefoot step on nails glasses. You know things. Like that. And Lanao Ukwa we add now Iraqi shoes designers, baby. Welterweight champion the world undisputed. Yeah. Man. It's pretty incredible. Yeah. Does it feel real me? I'd still feel normal. I don't feel anything. But you know, you're the champ. Yeah. I mean, but, but I think part of why it feels the way it does it because I've I've known for a long time. Like I felt like it for a long time. I've I've I've known nothing's going to change the way I'm going to train for these fights. Let's he's gonna train change in the mentality. I'm gonna approach these fights all the same still fighting the fight. It's not all I'm trying to defend this or I'm trying to hold onto this. I don't give a shit. I'm still going in there to dominate you from start to finish to break you mentally. So you never wanna frigging fight me. Again. That's my approach every fight. So nothing changes. I don't feel different everyone. The only thing now is cool. It'd be everyone's I treat me a little different people kind of, you know, people hold doors for me now shit like hopefully, making a shitload more money. Well, yeah, let's let's. Dana. Yes. Please. Hopefully that, but that's the only difference. I I don't feel different. I don't act any different. At least. I don't know when we were talking earlier about guys who like to trash talk, and what trash talking it's of doing for the sport. Whether it's good or bad. You know, some guys are really funny with it like Connors fucking hilarious with it made something about that. That is like when Jeremy Stevens said so fuck is that guy. The line is again in sports. Yeah. I mean, it's I mean, don't man. I mean, how many times that been repeated shot Jeremy Stevens to Jerry? Scrap always. Yeah. But I think that that's not the only way a guy can sell a lot of pay per views guy can also sell a lot of paper views about being exceptional. And that was the case with George name Pierre. Like, George Sabeer was never trash talker and still sold a shitload of paper views, and I think I think we're as human that human beings, humans can kind of tell the energy. Yeah. It's fake energy. See people can tell people put off by. Well, people are also enamored of people that are exceptional. Yes. If you just you can just be exceptional. You don't have to just be talking shit all the time and pushing each other at press conferences, not the only way now. But then you get those, you know, you get the majority of the the the shitty fans who who likes that stuff too. Yeah. There's a few who even though they know it's fake. They still like that. They just really wanna see, you know. So they put that pressure on people. Like, all you gotta do this. You have to do that. Because those are the guys that are going to tweet you the orange things do they tell, you know, give you advice on how to talk. No, no, I mean data's never once said, you gotta talk. You gotta do this. You got. No. They don't do. Do you feel though that sometimes they show you that by favouring guys who do that at like like when Colby got a shot at the title before you? Yeah. Because this is the thing is when someone starts doing that. And they are starting to trend a lot more. Of course, the company gets behind them because the companies about money it's about grain like they gotta make money. That's one thing that I understand more than anything right now. They about green like people say, oh Dana hates me. 'cause this now they didn't the only race Dana cares about his green light. If you're gonna make money. Dana cares. Right. And so nothing that wants someone starts doing that. And they're starting to create a little they started to have a little buzz. Of course, Dan is gonna push because dad guys might bring. Money making more money. So I understand that aspect of it. But it's not I don't think it's Dana necessarily saying man, you got to act like this. You gotta do this. Because this is what sells no Connor did it and if Connor Connor became who he became so. Yeah, Connor is going to be favored because Connor brings in millions and millions of dollars hubby. Did it his way? And now Habib brings him when he you know, he's favorite. So he's gonna bring in money and things like that. But then is not going around saying, you know, you gotta be like this guy. You gotta be like that guy. You know, bits bane. Did it his way? Right. And you know base being brought in money George did his way it's just as long as you want to be real what you choose to do. You're going to be real with yourself. Because at the end of the day you have to look at yourself in the mirror. Yes. If you can do what you wanna do. And then at the end of the day look in the mirror when everyone's gone. It's just you you take a piss in the morning, and then you wake up lean yourself and your man, you're like all right, then that's fine. Do you do you beautiful beautifully? Put. You're bad motherfucker tomorrow. My man extra doing. Extra doing this, man. Thank you. It's a pleasure. Thanks for telling your story and inspiring people, and I wish nothing but the best. Thank you. Thank shaded. Kamara respond, ladies and gentlemen, the champ. 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It Doesn't Need To Be That Way

You're Welcome! With Chael Sonnen

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It Doesn't Need To Be That Way

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one sports net. Production available on apple podcasts and podcast. One. It can be a little frustrating, especially if you're in a hurry or running late and you find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for a train. And if the signals are going, and the trains, not even here yet, you can feel a little bit tempted to try and snake across the tracks. Well, don't ever trains are often going a lot faster than you expect them to be and they can't stop even if the engineer hits the brakes right away. It could take a train a mile to come to a stop by that time. It used to be your car is crushed hunk of metal. And what used to be? You was better to not even think about that. The point is you can't know how quickly the train will arrive the train cannot stop. Even if it sees you the result disaster, if the signals are on that means a train is on its way, and you need to remember one thing stopped trains can't these feed every champion from every organization the sport of mixed martial arts as ever seen and retired. The opt to God is the biggest draw. And the industry's highest paid athlete of all time. And now now jail Sunan on cast one dot com. And for that. You're welcome. What's happening guys? Happy friday. Glad we could all meet again for another special episode of you're welcome. What a time to be a fight fan. We got Bella tour going strong, another round of the grand prix is gonna take place Lima versus MVP finally upon us pit bull versus channel. Whatever that grudge is all about not only is that gonna get settled the world titles going to get figured out. And then you've got rose defending her championship. You've got Josie all the largely in a semi-final 'bout though. I don't know what it is for Josie. I think his opponent wins. His opponent is likely that Alexander is likely to go and fight for a world championship not necessarily. So for Josie. But you're going to see the story lines of that division start to unfold a develop in front of our eyes for the rest of two thousand and nineteen. Plus, you get Anderson Silva, oh, and by the way, the next day submission underground exclusively at UFC fight pass lot to look forward to and don't forget it's mother's day, by the way, you pricks. Make sure you make a phone call send a card mail a letter take somebody to breakfast, don't say old Sheldon. It reminds you. Now, something interesting has been going on. If you guys will remind remember, and I gotta take you back about two weeks but Brock Leser out of nowhere announced his retirement. Now, there was immediate speculation there that was quickly brushed off not only by the MA mainstream sites. But also by bigger new sites such as TMZ, and what I'm talking about is the speculation that Brock listener has called a halt to his entire career in his return to the UFC because he had some kind of an issue with now why that was blown off. And I also blue that off there just wasn't a lot of legs around it. It didn't seem as though that would be a reasonable solution a retirement now had he ran into some hot water with Asada that would bring a conclusion to his mixed martial arts career, but aside from that there really wasn't very much. Evidence guys. I I don't want to add something right now. I want to come to you, candidly and tell you that I do not have information. But I am starting to hear things from people who generally do have the correct information that perhaps that wasn't totally wrong. And we're going to need a little bit of time. We're only going to know what time the new way that who sought a is operating K or remind you of the old way. I which was a guy flags boom. They put out a boilerplate statement. The only thing they changed between athletes is simply the name John Doe right fill in the blank, and then the whole rest of it uniform statement, we get it. But when who sought confronted with five people who were later cleared, and then Asada was able to look at you know, what we didn't totally cl- a week cleared them. But in the world of PR, and the mess that they went through in the minds is the day of the internet the sponsors that were already lost. It's very hard to fry that eggs. So we're going to do now is if we flagged somebody we are not going to. Say a word they will very quietly not be booked for a contest, but we will also very privately see the process through to the very end when we make our release. We will not only tell you who what in win. But we will also tell you what the remedy was whether it's a disciplinary action or a clearing of the athlete, but we will present one statement to you in its entirety. Okay. Great. Really good way to do things there is now some people that are saying that they have dug into this. And that is the very spot that Brock listener is. And I don't know that I buy that. I don't know that I'm willing to come on board and say that, but if you were a level of conspiracy theory, or as we do over here, we just simply speculate and visit and talk there is some clues to point to that is a possibility. The first of which is the proclamation retired out of nowhere. He retired out of nowhere after taking a lesser WWE schedule. He retired out of nowhere after going into. Training for twelve four months. He retired out of nowhere after entering and clearing that Lozada protocol of things that he had to pay for from his last outing UFC two hundred against Mark hunt. It looked like everything was go hit a world title fight. He had a main event he had a huge pay to he Daniel Cormet student from. I mean, this was not just a return fight. If you're going to return to fight more hunt in a co co main event, it would seem as though that same athlete who just went through everything that I laid out for Brock would return to fight it a main event for a world championship. It would seem that. It would also seem that even if this is not Creighton, quite frankly, I don't know that I'm buying other than the people that I'm hearing from have a very good track record that wasn't for that. And for the sources, I wouldn't even be talking to you right now. But we can't fully put this to rest perhaps until two months goes by only two weeks in once we cross that two-month barrier need to drop this whole speculation and topic because. There was nothing that happened. There is nothing that will happen. It's not as though use Sada at some point. We'll come out and go. Oh, and by the way, we've heard some rumblings out there that are. Absolutely, not true broccoli. We won't hear that. We will only here if there was a adverse reaction to the process, and we will hear that within sixty days of which we've got forty five left. But what I am offering to you as it isn't very strange circumstance. And it seemed that there was then a later dialogue that came in and said, no, you know, the reason Brock walked away is because the pay per view model has changed and therefore he can't collect his paper viewpoints. And therefore he lost his enticement to do this. Now that is I can tell you now that is not what happened. I don't know. What how I think it's probably a pretty straightforward one. Either. We're going to find something out in the next forty five days or two and far more likely if I'm being far more likely he started training in his body was just sore and tired, and he wasn't getting the same reaction. As fast as he had in the past. And he said, I'm done. I'm gonna do the responsible thing for myself. I'm not gonna let my mind and heart that is in this go out and write a check that my ass and my health and my pride can't cash I'm gonna move on. That's just knowing Brock and no one says nine thousand nine hundred. That's just not the guy. I know. It's just not. I've never bought. I never bought the argument that it was about the money, by the way, I know the UC has been more than generous for him. I know he can make in one night in the UFC. And I'm well aware of the days in the preparation that goes into it. You guys always push back when I say one night, but for one night he can make what he would make an entire year. Wrassling at one thing. Brock hates to do. It's not wrestling or fighting that he doesn't like to travel travel. Well, he's a big guy. So a homebody he just doesn't really like so he can encompass all of that with one airplane ride for Minnesota to Las Vegas. Let's see where this all goes. It's just with the evidence that we've been given. So. So far. I don't think it if it's right? If there is no flagging bite, Lou Sada. We may never know. But we also may hear something somewhere in the next forty five days. There is definitely in the room of conspiracy. And one thing that Brock has working against him. And he's gotta work against him right now. Now, I'm guilt. Now, I've been a dirtbag and doing it against him. His people talk behind your back because they have to when you don't come out and talk to the people that isn't fair, and that isn't right. But that is a reality of what's happening to Brock and it's happening to them right now. Right. This very second. Because he does not come out. And because we do have an interest in him because he is a spectacle in a spectacular attraction. It's hard to let it go. It really is to all my fellow fighters out there training. Eating clean can be a real challenge for sometimes, thankfully, our friends at sun basket are here to help us out by creating your own healthy, living, diet checkout. 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Get all the details about this season as the former winner calls up players that get eliminated each week for some juicy many interviews. Accomplish more on amazing race. We think. We were far more successful. So our crossover worked in our advantage. Download new episodes of now what just grab every week on apple podcasts and podcast one. As I look forward to tomorrow night. I cannot help but stare at the grudge match that is Chandler and pit bull. And frankly, guys you want to know the one thing that this story in this promotion is missing why where did this come from? I don't know pit bull. But I have met him and his brother. They're very nice guys. They don't look it on TV, but they are very nice guys people in the lock real people in the back people. Don't don't have heat with those two. They just don't they're gentlemen. Michael Chandler's about as nice, if a guy's you're gonna come across people just don't have heat with him in addition to that, they're both fantastic competitors. And they're each the last guy that anybody else on the roster wants to have to fight. Nobody looks at fighting channel or pit bull. Like, oh, I get to fight Chandler and get to fight. I have to fight Chandler. I have to fight pit bull. This is what was offered. I have a contract. I got a career. I gotta go. Get a painting. These to want to fight one another. I just want to know why what am I missing guys? Remember when Daniel Korean Joel how that all started? Right. I mean, those were oil and water you simply couldn't get them together. But there was actually a quantifiable tangible moment that you could put your finger on and they both did as to win the bad blood began. And it was real simple. I don't give a damn viewer. I don't care if it's a simple problem or a huge. I don't care, but I want to be let in on that you have failed at your job. If you don't bring me in on that all that had happened between those two John Jones have been fighting for awhile. Daniel Cormet was brand new to fighting but not new to combat. He had had Olympic dreams and just finished his second Olympic run into thousand eight he decided to get into the sport. He runs into John Jones backstage, John Jones, extended what John Jones viewed as a sign of respect to go up and engage. This who wasn't even in the US to just go up and engage a fellow wrestler NFL athlete with a similar dream. And said something to him about well, you know, something about Daniel's wrestling. And I think I think John Jones said, well, you know, you lucky I I think he had said something along those lines or perhaps now it's coming to you know, what John Jones it said he had said something about oh you used to wrestle. That's what it was two is Daniel Cormet is going. Hey, look, if you're a fellow wrestler, and you are and we're in a similar weight class, which we are you should know who you're Olympia and world team and open level, national champions, were you should not just turn your back on your own sport. Even though you've now gone over into a new sport that was Daniel staff. So Daniel responded. Yeah. Probably the best wrestler you've ever met. And boom that was it. Daniel had felt he had been disrespected when I look at that. I'm John side of this thing. I gotta tell you. I don't see the disrespect. But that's a completely different story. One is nothing to do with the other. You've got to competitors together. What John viewed as a nice selfless act of going over? Engaging. The new kid in class if you will Daniel took as a direct insult to his accomplishments. I'm man I am in. But I gotta know I've seen enough punches and kicks. That's me. Not everybody can say that I've seen enough punches kicks. I gotta know why. Why are we here in don't tell me to punch kick when I have more than that? Because I can get the punch and kick in all over the place to three times a week to three different organisms. I get that all over the place. You gotta tell me. The why pit bull. I'm going to get to the bottom of this. By the way, I am flying out to the Chicago to call that fight the moment. I get done in this studio talking to you guys the very first thing I'm going to ask Chandler or pit bull. Whoever. I see I is where the hill to the stemmed from. I am going to bring you the answer. But I will somebody needs to bring a set answer because these two guys knowing them both separately are the kind of guys that would get along. They just happened to be competitors. So they're going to have to go out there and compete, and it's not going to be personal. This is personal leave it told shale. I will find out. Why guys we're always talking about these massive fight cards and take it for me? 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I love that for a couple of reasons I found that very refreshing for a couple of reasons, but I do have one pushback, let's start at the beginning when John Jones was on suspension and really needed a friend and really needed a life raft and really needs somebody that attached to he was more than happy to. Call out Daniel Cormet and do it over and over again. This was a guy that was drowning and was looking for an opportunity that was also refreshing because John Jones is often so difficult to work with so in this case at that point, and that chapter in his career all of a sudden, he's Mr. come to the table great. We got we got the hard part done, then Daniel was kind of a, and I got to things that I wanted to and I've been promised this Brooklyn refined. I'm going to see that thing through. Oh. And by the way, I'm going to retire in March. Okay. March sixth came and went Daniel did not retire. Great news. The other side of the coin is now all of a sudden Daniela saying I'm going to come down to John. I lost to him twice at two hundred five pounds. I need to do it a third time at two hundred five thousand that's where I wanna hit the brakes in go says who where do we possibly get that? I did. And I can answer the question. I know exactly where we got the idea we got the idea from the night that Conor McGregor lost to Nate Diaz. Caro demanded a rematch. But he wanted everything the same same opponent. Same venue. Same placement on the cart means a five round atmosphere. Same weight class. Even though Carter was the one hundred forty five pound champion. He should have been finding a hundred and fifty five pounds. You know, you had a little bit of a size as you. Let's fix that. Give you Nate see how that one goes Connor goes. No, thank you. But no, I don't want any favors. I want everything the exact same. There was a major macho nece there was a major bravado. And there was a major courage done there by Connor McGregor. But now other guys are wanting to follow that same suit. And there always seems to be some traps in MMA where somebody comes out and does something it gets perceived as a cool thing by the industry and other guys want to do it. I remember the night that Matt Hughes came out and coined the phrase, you're never really a champion and tell you defend it all of a sudden that caught on a win through the industry first off. There was absolutely no truth to it. So it never should've caught on. If you leave there one moment, one time with twelve pounds of gold around your waist, and they raise your hand and call you world champion, you are the world champion. And Secondly, mad himself never even came out and made the claim until he had successfully defended the championship. And in his case. It was true because the night they grounded champion they had to wake him up and inform him that he had just become champion. So in his case, it was very true. But it was one of those very odd things the trickled and went to the industry and stuck around to this day dillashaw when he lost his Huda wanted to rematch. But he wanted it back at one hundred twenty five pounds for these exact same reasons guys, it doesn't need to be that way. As a matter of fact, as the viewer and the paying customer, the more variables that you can offer me the more than going to want to see it. I don't buy into any of the same same scenario. As a matter of fact, I'm well aware that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result in this case we've done it twice. Why would we believe unless we were insane that the do it over a third time? We're going to get a different result. If you want to work the storyline in there because it had to. Do with the peds. Now, January finally fighting a clean John Jones. Okay. I'm on board. And I get it. I just don't think that's something that you can take to ESPN and Jim Rome and Dan Levato at every other partner that you're going to need and get a ton of steam behind. It seems like a little bit of a sticky subject. It seems like a little bit of a black. And I don't know that the promotion is going to want to get behind that story, however, changing weight classes is very very relevant. Daniel Cormie is a heavyweight Daniel Cormet never would have done two hundred and five pounds. If he wasn't a loyal member of the AK. And if you had a teammate named Cain Velasquez who was fighting heavyweight at the time. So when Daniel came in second he goes look can't I'm not going to steal your thunder. I'm going to sacrifice I walk around at eight pounds bigger than you walk around. But you were here. I and I'm good, dude. And I'm a better teammate. I will sacrifice I will go and take myself out of the premier perennial way class of heavyweight. I will go down to two I will make less money. But you were here. I I was here second, and we're friends, and I'm a loyal guy. Cool move. But that is why that happened. Daniel Cormack is a natural heavyweight that is the correct way classroom even in his wrestling days. He never lost one single match ever at heavyweight, and he is some damn tough matches. He we went ahead with Steve Moco, and he beat him one to nothing point is that's the story when you have that in conjunction with the fact that John Jones naturally walks around about two twenty five. Now, you don't only have the story of the heavyweight class. You now have Daniel that will have twenty five pounds on Jones. So now you start to have the dialogue about well. How much better is Daniel's wrestling going to be and how much more power are those punches going to pack now all of a sudden, I don't have to be insane. As a person who is going to watch the same thing over and over again doing the exact same thing. And somehow think there's going to be a different result. I would just argue for you that the. Story is and it's better for John too. I mean, not for its better for John Jones for John Jones to be able to go up and become a double champion possibly. He stays in that way class and possibly he walks away and never returns as I said, he only walks to twenty five that's out of shape that's being lazy. That's not in the John's not as big as you guys think each is very tall. He looks massive on TV he's appropriately two hundred five Pounder. So keep his options open because don't forget if we are to accept that. This is Daniels retirement fight. And I think for very good reason. It would be a really think for very good reason it would win or lose. That means you just left the heavyweight division with how to champion. So when do we strip him lately, we have been stripping guys put in that same situation at and I quote when the first punches thrown I like that except there's going to be a four month build up for the fight. Let's dot hold the division up. So let's strip him the second he signs the bowed agreement. But now we lift the heavyweight class with no champion. I just think. The story is better. I think it is a better set. Look, this cells either way this works either way, I sit down I push that button. No way around it. But I do it with a little bit more excitement. If there's something new if there's a new variable, and I think that variable is real solved easily which stood at heavyweight admit it hiring the right candidate can be h shore multiple job sites. Stacks of resumes. A confusing review process finding the right person for the job should not be like going five rounds in the cage. It's ludicrous while hiring doesn't have to be difficult, especially when you go to ZipRecruiter dot com slash Sunan. Ziprecruiter sends your job to over a hundred of the web's leading job boards, but they don't stop there. With the powerful matching technology. 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I have so many great stories and memories of the old team quest days, and I've had at Herman on hair before Chris Liebenberg Nate quarry pops in and we just tell team quest stories, and you guys always love it. And I was gonna ask tell more stories tell more stories, and I'll tell you what I have so many. I was there every single day for so many years. But for some reason when time goes on, and I'm never grated identifying what a good stories, and I never know what somebody's going to want to hear. But one very interesting story that happened Matt Linlin to Matlin live story. You know, what let's back up Scott Smith. Do you guys? Remember, Scott Smith. I think what was his ring name was Scotty to Hoti or something. But Scott Smith, very good fighter. W E C champion at one point. He was also the king of the cage champion, I believe the gladiator challenge champion you guys. May remember king of the cage and gladiator challenge. That kind of work simultaneously. And that was a really big deal in the sport. At one point in time. There wasn't a whole lot of opportunities out there. And those guys were putting out products at shows allowing competitors place to compete for meaningful period. So Scott Smith had done really well in those organizations before he had his UFC days in his strikeforce days. And just a guy that I knew, but he was also a very nice guy. In addition to that he was a bit of extension if you will of team quest in that he was managed by Mike Roberts who was very close with the team quest guys. He was personal friends with Randy couture who not only was the champion at team quest. Not only the leader of the team. He also owned the gym. Now, the gym was owned by three guys Matlin Robert follows Randy couture. So Scott Smith has a fight coming up at the time of this story is a fight coming up. It's a main event title defense in king of the cage. King of the cage is going to be on pay per view for the very first time. Scott Smith salary for this fight is going to be five thousand dollars, which at that time made him rich, by standards. This is a huge huge paydays. I'd heard of outside of one of the major organizations which at that time was only seen pride. So he's got five thousand dollar pay day look for it comes to Oregon to train. Randy couture. Picks them up at the airport and takes them to his house. Got Smith is now stain at Randy's house. While he trains at the gym relevant to the story because the day that the story took place Randy wasn't at the gym. Now what they were doing with shark bait that day, and it was a three man group. I cannot remember who the third member was I think it was Evan Tanner. I believe the group of three was Scott Smith, Jeff Monson. Evan Tanner Matlin four man group, but yourself and three other guys I believe that was the group, and you stayed in. You were the shark bait you stayed in three minutes with each guy before you came out and got. Arrest in the next guy goes in and he gets shark bait it okay somewhere along the way. And don't forget Matlin is the number one ranked fighter in the world at the time. So for Matt to get treated differently by somebody who's coming in looking for Spar. It is absolutely a natural consequence of being a celebrated and decorated number one fighter in the world. Mad did not see it that way. When Matt was out watching Scott, go with other guys. Matt felt Scott was sandbagging. He was saving his energy. And then we'll go really hard against that. Well, I wasn't there. But I bet you that's exactly what he did do as a sign of respect to the number one fighter in the world. Who also happens to be a cone co owner of the gym mat thought that that was wrong that he should be going hard the whole time, and he should not just be throwing heat at Matt when Matt comes in. So when Matt goes in he roughs him up a little bit. And there was a point where Scott Smith is down matinees him first off K matinee. Him in the face. Scott. Smith goes down Mack comes up kicks him while he's down. This is a training session and mad owns the gym. So a little bit shocking on many many levels, but Scott Smith alternately ends up with a broken nose a broken nose to the point that he has to pull out of his main event title fight pay day on a paper view of king and the big deal that this happened for Scott. And he was our guest gay. He was our guest. Not a great moment. Not a great action. So Robert talks to Matt after Robert was out of the room. He was running the practice, but he stepped out of the room. So somebody runs and gets Robert I think it was Chris leaving Robert comes running in breaks. This whole thing up Scott sitting on the wall just protecting his face in his nose which gushing blood him. He has to go to the hospital. It's a big deal. Robert, the very last thing Robert says to Matt and Robert didn't see this only here. The last thing he says you had better call Randy, right? He's going to find out about this. And it's best. If he finds out from. You and the way they handled things at team quest about back. Then was might may. Right. It was never about the issues of the principals, or what was if you could beat up the other guy than it was going to be your way, if the other guy could beat you up. It was going to be his way and Matt Linlin a here to that code as bizarre as you may find that code that was Matt's code, and he would play both ways if could beat you up you had better do what he wants. But if you could beat him up, he'll go to your dry cleaning. He'll do whatever it is you want. He just here to that. So that night Matt Coles. Randy because hey, I got to talk to you about something and read he goes about you breaking Scott Smith's knows? And Matt goes, oh, you've already heard. Okay. Great click and hangs up on him. Now. I think Matt missed the point there. But I'm telling you the story the way that it happened. So the next day when Matt pulls into the gym, and that was always the first one to the gym when Matt pulls in Roberts chorus there. And Randy's truck is they're so mad pulls anything. So boy, this isn't going to be good. If they're both here that. They're waiting for me. And Matt was right. So when he walks in there, they are ready tells them to take a seat, so they have a talk with them. And they try to talk to him not on the terms that I'm suggesting this for you. Which is hey, we had a guest you hurt him. You know, by the way, you own the gym. I mean, there's a way we they weren't trying to talk to like that. They were saying Matt you lost your temper K, you kicked a guy while he was down. That's illegal. Matt was in the USA at the ten that's illegal under the unified rules. You will be disqualified. You can't lose your temper Matt goes. Oh, that's what this was about now. No, no, no. You got it all wrong. I we were doing shark bait. I had watched him for three rounds nine minutes. I had this whole thing planned out. I hadn't I didn't lose my temporal. All right. Thank you guys and gets up to walk out. Randy sit back down you've missed the point. And ready gets a little more stern with them. He says, listen if you're going to come back into the room and Matt owns the gym by. The way he owns the gym. But none of that matters nothing. It only is whoever could beat who that that's the code. It was of the jungle. Serena said, here's how this is going to work before you return to practice. You were going to apologize to the team you freaked the you scared everybody they watched you doing this. As a leader illegal move Senate a guy to the hospital, you're not coming back in and tell you apologize. So Matt's like, you really think that's necessary ransacked. That's the way it's going to be. So that's the way it's going to be so practice starts before anybody does everything. Everybody walks out on the math. They all got their gear on Randy and Robert go out as leaders and owners and they call everybody to the middle. And now mad has to come forward. And give us apology. His apology goes like this. Hey, you know, something happened yesterday. And I heard that some guys were saying they were scared was that you any points right in a guy's face. It goes was it you were you scared. Are you the one that tattled on me? And then he turns to the next guy goes was it you were you the one that was scared. Are you the one that went and complaint? Was it you any points to about four or five? There's only seven or eight guys. They're so everybody is mad Linlin the owner of the gym and the bad is due to the world at middleweight at the time is going around the room dressing down. Nobody said word nobody raised a hand. Nobody said, yeah. It was me. Everybody just stood there and stared at him. So when Matt finally gets done with the fourth or fifth guy saying was it you nobody says anything that really calmly looks up to two Randy. And Robert and goes see, I told you nobody was scared. Let's start practice. And we did that is how that issue got resolved. And I have felt to this day as a member of team quest. Even I wasn't even there. I still feel to this day that we owe Scott Smith a bit of an apology our friends at geiko want to save you some cash and even better you don't even need to leave your house. All you have to do is go to Geico dot com and in fifteen minutes, you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Extra money in your pocket. It just. Might be the most rewarding thing you do today. And you know, while we're on the topic of apologies. I suppose I might as well get this one out of the way and just do one more. Do you guys? Remember Homer more does Homer more. I'll ring a bell to you home. Or or was about five foot ten fought at two hundred five pounds sometimes on the regional certain that was in the UFC sometimes on the regional circuit. He would even go fight at heavyweight. He was a lifelong wrestler, very nice guy new home for very long time. But I then went and fought Homer and Homer was a bit of a knucklehead I fly out to rumble on the rock to known him for meaningful period of time. Just to the wrestling was I don't know if I'd ever met emerges new of. And we saw each other. However that worked but go out to rumble on the rock, which was a promotion that was being promoted by BJ Penn and BJ pins family, and they were very successful. They would do they do five and six thousand live attendance seats out at Hawaii's. If you could get on the cards even got to go out to Hawaii make a little trip of it. I get called on Christmas day to come out there. Three. Days later and fight Homer. More on December twenty eighth. Okay. Great. So I take the fight the fights it two hundred five pounds now back then I didn't even wait two hundred five pounds. But I like to fight it the way I really love cutting weight, not totally irrelevant to the story other than when we get to the very first thing that we do is the way in and the way and takes place at a dinner. There's like this big meet and greet. I remember they had fettuccini and they had chicken and the vegetables, really good dinner. I did not partake in it though. Because the way and was going to happen right after the dinner right there in the same facility, you have your dinner. And then you get up and go way, they should've reverse order, but just accept the store for what it was. Well, I'm watching Homer homers pigging out. So when it's time to weigh in he misses wait by eight pounds. And he tells me after he miss his by APEC, no, we're the main event, by the way, the show is tomorrow, by the way, and we're in Hawaii. What do you think I'm going to say when they failed you still accept the, of course, I accept the fight here. We are. He says to me though. Oh in a very nice, passive Homer was one of those big old monster guy, but he had that that really soft and friendly voice. Like just that really the voice that didn't fit the body. It was like this really nice voice. And he says, yeah, I just you know, with the holidays, I didn't feel like cutting can we get home or no, no kidding including last twenty minutes. When I watched you scarf down that fettuccini Alfredo that looked Alicia that. I wish I would have had, but I did it. Because here we are to weigh in upon the agreed upon class at any rate, we compete. We have our little fight. I beat Homer not the point of the story Pat on the back for me. Okay. Great. But now I'm involved with his career. He went on into the UFC or possibly hit even done this. I might might time line might be open fought my teammate. Evan tanner. I think that was after I thought maybe it was before I fought him and somewhere along the way we were always told about home or more. We're always say, hey, you know, be careful that guy there was these rumors out there about him from what I knew the guy. The guy was a gentleman. Good competitor, worked hard and was a nice guy from what I knew about. But you. Always heard these rumors about hey, be careful guy runs with a bad crowd. That's that's a rough guy. Stay away from Homer lives out in Arizona that people people in his neighborhood. They know they know that's a dangerous guy. I don't really know where that's coming from. But okay, fair enough one day home Amore gets cuffed up by the FBI. They have been running investigation on him for over a decade or right at a decade, and he had done a murder, and they had the whole thing. I'm they had him on tape e e kill somebody and put them in the trunk and drove the car somewhere and let the whole trunk on fire very dark. I don't mean to go dark, but I have to tell you the story. They've got him on tape by the gasoline. They got credit cards receipts got his semi. They got the whole bit right homers done. So they were they spent a decade though. And that's where these rumors came from the rumors. Everybody was talking about his, hey, this guy's about to go down on big federal charge here. So finally does they cover them up. They put him away. Whereas my apology coming from. Well when that happened roughly a year ago. I spoke on this. I told the exact same store that I just told right now lay out fade to black roll the credits wrap the show not so fast. They had old Homer locked up and they had him locked up for about three months. They let him out. They didn't let him out on a technicality. They let him out because they found out. He was innocent everything I took credit card. The signatures the video of him buying the everything wrong guy, wrong guy, not only was home or innocent. They found the rightful perpetrator. And he is now doing time. I don't know that there's anything worse. You could say that a guy today horrific crime like that without coming out and correct it. But I was only as good as information. I was given I was given it by the feds every car comes with its share stories whether it's at ding and clays bumper as he nervously picked up Molly for their first date or the mileages save all summer by taking the bus while you can't put a price tag on your stories now truecar you can at least find out what your car. Is worth when it's time to sell or trade it in just go to truecar simply enter your license plate numbers and watch. How your car's details up then just interview questions now the Gatien moon roof cassette tape player that way, you will know how much of a hit it's going to be. So you can plan ahead. Once you're finished. 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The MMA Reporters: Episode 6

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The MMA Reporters: Episode 6

"It is Wednesday February twentieth. Two thousand and nineteen. Welcome back to another episode of Yemane reporters. And when you do shows like this one when you do shows like the one I do Monday when you do shows like on the bad guy. It's always fun when news breaks right before you do the show doesn't happen often. But when it does when there's fresh news out there new news, if you will that's always very exciting. And that's what happened this morning. So we've found out at around ten thirty AM eastern time. You have see sent out a press release that George rush Saint Pierre, arguably the greatest mixed martial arts. Fighter of all time. The pride of Saint is adult Quebec Canada the face of Canadian MA, the former you have see welterweight and middleweight champion was set to hold a press conference. Tomorrow in Montreal Thursday morning Montreal to make a special quote unquote announcement moments later, Ben web, dwell of LDS in Quebec a sister station of. Yes. PIN by the way, the French Canadian version of ESPN and Quebec announced that George was expected to announce his retirement, I have confirmed the multiple sources that that is in fact, true George saint-pierre tomorrow at ten thirty A M eastern time, we'll nounce his retirement from mixed martial arts. According to my sources, he tried to secure fight against Libya. Magomedov once it became clear that that was not going to happen that it would not materialize. He decided at thirty seven years young that it was time to walk away. Of course, the last time we saw him in action was November of two thousand seventeen you have see to seventeen when he defeated Michael bist Bank, and you'll call he stayed a beat longer in the cage that night to say goodbye to the fans to knowledge the fans in the end that ended up being his final. As an active UFC fighter inside, the cage. So we have a lot to talk about here this afternoon. It is a pleasure once again to be joined by the man in the shirt, Jeff wagon Heim, the great Jeff wagon Heim and also returning is the one and only Greg Rosenstein, and this is very fun guys because this is sort of like the heartbeat of ESPN dot com slash Emma. May you two gentlemen, kind of set the table for everyone? So first off Jeff welcome back. Good star. Gerald's of emotional day. It is emotional or saint-pierre. It's like it's the end of an era. I will share my motions in a moment. But let's just say Hello to Greg as well. Greg. How are you? I'm doing great. Hopefully, no more news breaks because this is the entire section right here. So yeah, that's back. I was gonna add when you when you said, it's really cool. When news Rex before one of these shows, it always seems to happen that news breaks as soon as you finish. That's right. That's like this is like this is where we're we're we're playing with house money here. So I want to talk to you guys about what just came out this news. Just broke. I just wanna set the table. I for my perspective. No secret that I am from Montreal. No secret that George saint-pierre growing up along with the laws. Oh where my favorite fighters before. I started doing this for a living. I've said on many occasions that you have C sixty five when he beat Matt Hughes to finally become the world champion is my favorite fight of all time. I went to champs sports bar on San Laurent street in Montreal with some friends who nothing about Emma, man. I tried to convert them into MA fans, we watched it the place exploded like the Canadians had just won the Stanley Cup. George saint-pierre means a lot to me. I can't I'm a human being. I can't I can't hide that. And it has been honored covers career. So to your point Jeff, I am a little motion. I think a lot of thought that this could happen to actually see it become a reality. And and and and I hope to be there tomorrow at the press conference. Thank you ESPN for giving me that opportunity. It's an end of an era, and it's not often that arguably the greatest ever walks away. And so this gives us some time to reflect and so let me. Ask you when you heard about the news. What did you think I thought good for him? That's what I thought. I know that you mentioned that Habib fight was sort of hanging out there, and it would have been great to see something like that. But I really thought good for George. I mean, this is a guy who who walked away from the sport when he was on top. And how many people do that? It's a pretty rare thing in combat sports really in sports in general, but in combat sports in particular, and then he made the decision to come back when he fought against bist being and and how many times have someone who walked away come back. And then they get exposed their their their return. We just saw it last weekend. Cain Velasquez comes back from a long long absence. And and seconds later. He's he's on the campus, and that's over well, George came back, and and became a champion a whole different way class. So he's almost like he's had so many triumphs or even triumph from returns. And you know, now he's walking away as. A guy who was to time champion perhaps the greatest ever I'm going to say as great as ever. Good for him. I agree with that completely. I think like you said there's too many of these fighters who are all time greats, and they keep going and keep going, and then it gets almost sad, you know, couple months ago when we saw BJ Penn that was kind of sad, you know, this past weekend henna Barat that was kind of sad. So I think it's great when these fighters, no when they don't wanna keep going, and you know, he said on your show, call months ago, whenever is on that fire really isn't there anymore? So if he's not getting the fights that he wants he shouldn't just be forced into a fight just for the sake of it. He doesn't need the money. He's an all time. Great no matter what no matter where you have him. I know Jackie's he's number one for you. I think a lot of people have number one. I think he's definitely a top five all time. So I think it's I think it's the right time if he's not really feeling that fire. Okay. So let me ask you guys this before we dig deeper into Georgia and his legacy, and perhaps why he's walking away. Jeff you've been covering the fight game along time, and Greg you just alluded to this. The fight game. Is filled with stories of people who announced their retirement, and then come back, even Daniel Cormet said, I'm going to retire when I turned forty in March, and that has been pushed back we know about Roy Jones junior talking for years, I'm gonna retire when I'm x years old comes back Bernard Hopkins and the same BJ Penn. I mean, it's just it's it's very rare that someone stays true to this. I think of a Lennox Lewis who stay chewed said I'm done and never came back. Even though he tried people. Try to get him to come back in short. Do you believe George do you really believe that this is it for him? Oh, yeah. Totally. I feel as though when he walked away after the Johny Hendricks fight years ago. And he never used the R word. He never said retirement. I think that said something about how he wasn't quite ready to truly walk away. But he just couldn't continue at that time. And you know, if you remember the time he was he was kind of a motion a mess. He was it was a hard time in his fight. Who's also getting beat up in even though he was continuing to win and he needed to be away from the sport. He might have never come back. But he wasn't ready at the time to say he was done. I think this time he's he's ready. And again, he's he's he has been a champion two different way. Classes. I know he wanted to get that fight could be which I guess if he had to cut down two hundred and fifty five pounds and become a champion of the third way class. It would have been crazy. But is that what the guy really I mean, I suppose for him if the one one more complement would have been a great thing for him. But I think he he seems like a guy who's who's who knows what he's done in the sport. And he knows when it's when it's time to walk away. So does it. I do believe him that he is feeling this way and retirement could very well. Be exactly what he's going to be in forever. I do think though that you know, he just said he wanted to could be and so it's not completely gone. You know, what I mean and for the right money for the right person? Anybody could come out of retirement. So I'm not going to give it one hundred percent lock great. I don't know about you. I mean, you're you're closer than I am with him. Would you would you sense? I find the timing interesting because as you just said so much can happen between now. And when he is ready to return right Abib has said that he's only gonna come back in November. Once his his teammates suspension are up and were in February. So that's in nine months, a lockin happen. Even if he did come back in November and one a lot can happen between that fight in his next fight. So I'm really curious George hasn't talked on the record yet. But I'm curious to hear his explanation. It is important to note, he's thirty seven, and I think that the you have. See was a little upset that he came back to fight. Michael bist bang, and then didn't defend the title because that's what happened in the Johnny Hendricks fight. He dropped the belt and you'll recall Dana white saying that there was a clause that he had to defend it against Robert Whitaker that didn't happen. So he gave it the title like eleven days later. I think it was. So I thought it was a very very very long shot that we give them a third title fight in the third different way class because I don't think George is ready and willing to be an active champion. Meaning I think he wants legacy fights. He wants big fights the idea of being the first man to defeat hubby, muggy medoff is incredibly intriguing for him. I don't think he is interested in being a guy who's going to defend the lightweight welterweight or middleweight title actively. Right. And so the you have C is gonna say now can give you this massive fight. But I'm not surprised that they're saying. No. And I'm not surprised that he has the feeling that you know, what I'm never gonna get this fight. Because of how the last two title rains went totally understand the way of thinking. I mean, nobody. Ever gone to a different way class one a title, and then not defend it kinda McGregor. But I mean, look Georgia's a guy who had he he is he walks his own path. He's a guy who at times challenged the company with regards to drug testing, really he was the first prominent guy who was out there calling for more for more stringent testing. Now, some of that hasn't hasn't really worked out so well for the sport in general, but but he was the guy that was out there, and he was challenging the see specifically about that. So I I understand them not wanting to do him any favors even though he certainly makes made him a lot of money. And if they put him in another big fight, he would have made even more money for them. Are you surprised the UC's interested in this fight Greg interested in could be been j? Yeah. A little bit because it's too huge huge names. I mean, they're all about selling tickets all about. About song paper views. I mean that would that would crush, right? I mean, those are two amazing fighters. So I am a little surprised. They're not interested. I mean, we don't know all the details, and why didn't come together. But I am a little surprised. Dana white has been asked about this multiple times. He's like, nah, I'm not gonna even that fight. That's not something we're interested in because I think he was legitimately mad. And so I do agree with you. Jeff I understand their line of thinking. And quite frankly, I think it would be hypocritical on our part, especially you, and I Jeff who have talked about like meritocracy and things like that. There is a log jam at one fifty five it would be hard to tell Tony Ferguson, for example. Hey, we're giving this guy who's never fought at one fifty five a title shot over you or doesn't poor your ally. I mean, I I'm not gonna knock the C for this percent. But to your point, Greg. This is a money fight. Like this fight does way better than Ferguson. The only fight that probably does better than this one for Habib is a Connery match. And I think there's for me like stylistically. She is P Habib is freaking. King incredible, right? Yeah. Way. More interesting for me, then Connery match because I agree. You know, unless CONNER suddenly learns way more wrestling, again, I'm not going to discredit McGregor because he did better on the ground that a lot of people did against have done against the hubby. But let's he can raise that significantly of. I don't see a fight with with Habib changing the result changing much at all, you know, George saint-pierre has been always touted as sort of one of the great greatest MMA wrestler, a guy with no actual wrestling credentials in his pocket. But a guy who's always been able to out wrestle everybody. He's he's fought against and, you know, even though he would have to cut down to one hundred and fifty five he would be a bigger man than could be. So yes, certainly, there would would have been some interesting things on your right, though. You can't I it would not be right for him to step ahead of the line. I just don't think that's the reason why the is is saying no to the fight. I mean, they're. The idea that, you know, I'm not gonna Dana would say, I'm not going to give them this fight as if he's giving him something. He's what he's doing is. He's trying to make fights that make money. So there's other reasons there were you at that Prescott. Will you at U of C 167 when he fought Johnny Hendrix. I was not at that one. You've seen the price. You remember how contentious it was? Yeah. Ever since. Then it's never been the same between the two do you? Remember the press conference? I think it was before the Kevin Leigh Tony Ferguson fight in Las Vegas. So that was what you have C two one six if memory serves me, correct? And they did the press conference for GS p bis being and Dana walked up there. And everyone's like, so what was your reaction when you found out that Georgia's coming back, and he said awesome. Like there was no excitement. He didn't build that fight. It always felt like he was just not that buzzed about the fact that arguably the greatest of all time was coming back ever since that press conference. He said he owes it to us. He should defend the title. That's what you do. Johnny Hendrix was so close to winning that fight. They wouldn't have had that problem and ever. Since that moment of felt like they could not see eye to eye vincis becomes talking about drug testing. And and the union thing remember that he was on the forefront of all that ever since then. So I think all that comes into play when you try to figure out why they're not interested in this Habib fight. I'm actually carrying about another possibility say Tyron Woodley who call who always wants to fight pay Sade say Woodley wins in other the refighting row or something. Do you think it's possible that because he's just continues to rise that could be something that for the right money and everything GOP would consider coming back for or is he not is he still not enough of a draw? So he was like three or four zero. It's a good question. I think all of us would sign up for that fight. I don't think he has any interest in that fight because that's a mountain that he conquered. He's considered the greatest welterweight which haven't of all time. And let's say by the time that actually happens where we're tired is threatening. His record George can be like probably close to forty at that point. Right. George saint-pierre is that the kind of guy I think who's going to sit on his couch now and eat a lot of Patine or something like that. I mean, he is going to be in great shape for his entire life. I don't suspected he will like balloon in his forties and fifties that being said he's all about he's talked about the so many times the stock market, you know, who's up who's down. What's my legacy? All this. I think for him welterweight is done like every time. You ask them about. What about like, he doesn't even entertain the idea? One eighty five was of interest because he had never done it. Double champ one fifty five would be of interest because he never done it. Triple champ Abib undefeated in his mind. What have gathered is there's no mountain there as far as will these concern tach your question? No, I don't I would love to see the fights to bad day, two favorite people. Really? I know that is true to would've put the belt on anyone in that case. So that's going to happen tomorrow. And so this gives us an opportunity to celebrate George, and I just mentioned the story. So like for me. Very quickly being MMA fan. And and seeing someone who's from Montreal rise up and become that big of a star again him David Lonzo divisor went to a college. That was literally ten minutes from you know, where where my family lived when I was in high school that was just you know, that that sort of thing didn't happen like in hockey they were Montreal born stars. But another sports there weren't and so that was super cool for us. And that's why Jesus was always our guy and the first time I ever interviewed George saint-pierre was July of two thousand eight when I was working for a website called MA rate dot com, and I went to try star. And I was nervous as hell. And he sat on the ring on their forget at the clip is still on YouTube sat on the ring. And he spoke to me like we were. I mean like best buds, and I couldn't believe how one of the biggest stars in the sport was that down to earth when I was running my own website, Jerry park dot com. I somehow God his number and cold called him at that point. I've never done any video work or anything and asked him to be on the show. And I said mature on everything did the interview right then and there for me. So I think part. Of his legacy is that he was always kind of, you know, humble down to earth respectful martial-arts comes from the true martial arts background. But, but Jeff I understand I've never been to Saint TS though, you've been to his hometown. Yeah. Coming up to Montreal to watch him fight a believe it was the Nick D fight K. And I was I was driving up from Massachusetts through Mont with my wife. And I said, you know, we we have to take a little detour when we're on the way to Montreal. And I found Santa's to do on the map, and I went over there. And I was expecting there to be you know, like in some little town you'd see like banners across across the roadway. You know, big I for Georgia. What I was expecting there to be major celebrations. But it was great quiet. It was nothing at all in the town in there, and we stopped at a little convenience store. And I was asking the person behind the counter. Now, everybody courses a this is in deepest Quebec. So there's hardly anybody half the people I. Would speak to could not speak to me in English. They were just they were French-Speaking. And I think France, Jeff, I'm on. But but but I I was able to at least a brass that. I was you know, there to ask about George Saint Pierre. Some people knew who he was when people didn't even know it was kind of very low key. I was kind of surprised, and then I later found out that that that his his schooling was in a neighboring town. So even though he was from one town his his the where he actually went to school. And where he was kind of a little better known was was in another town. So I, you know, I. You know, I I in a sense, I feel like I gone to the wrong place. But it was still kinda cool to go into the place where this guy was it was like a little tiny little town on middle of farmland. And there was you know, nothing nothing much out. There was it was a cool little thing. And then then to get in the car and Hopley car and go, you know, not very long forty five minutes, or so maybe an hour up to Montreal where you know, the the place was just celebrating him was kind of a cool experience. Yeah. Were you there at UCD three when he fought Matt, Sarah? I was not at that one. No, one twenty nine the one that I was not there either. I only went to the only place I saw George. I saw George fight in in Montreal a bunch of times the Dixie as I think the Carlos Condit. And then maybe I saw him in. I'm not sure if some other some other ones as well. But but I did not see Toronto. And and so I was the first time I saw George saint-pierre fight. I was trying to figure this out when I saw this news this morning, and I realize I don't even remember it. But I remember I looked at his record. And he his you'll see debut was you'll see forty six and the reason I know I saw him fight was that was a fight headlined by two title fights to very distinctive one veto Belford knocked out. Randy couture to become the the the light heavyweight champion in less than a minute and right below that was the welterweight championship of the world. Matt Hughes defending against BJ Penn. The former that time former lightweight champion and BJ Penn upset him to become the champion. Now. George saint-pierre fought on the the main fight of the prelims, and and won a unanimous decision that the bands, don't even remember all our Emmers. I know I saw because I watched that entire fight card there. Five you have welterweight champions. Wow. That fight card. You had Matt huge had BJ Penn. You had George Saint Pierre. Carlos Newton was on that card. And also, I believe Matt Serra was on the fight car. I'm trying to think I've took a note here. I think was. Yeah. Matt Serra as well. I mean, it was a pretty crazy card Frank MIR fought there was a if you go back and look at that, you know, that was a pretty notable thing. But there was I don't remember the GSP performance at all. I knows a two fights later. He was challenging Matt Hughes for the title. He lost that fight. And then of course, a couple years later came back in one, but I did se