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We Have A Trade To Announce!

The Isles Faithful Podcast

27:54 min | 1 year ago

We Have A Trade To Announce!

"Daddy what are you doing? We're recording a podcast. He's listening. Islander. Fans are listening. Where are they the right here? Welcome to the Isles. Faithful podcast with your host. Michael Shirley Line hello and welcome back to the House. Faithful podcast. I'm your host as always Michael Sherline and this is episode number forty four. The trade deadline edition today is February. Twenty four th twenty twenty. We have trade to announce a trade to announce. We've heard that a couple of times does not in the last six hundred and some odd days with Lula Morello at the helm but that all changed it. Kinda changed really About a week ago when the islanders traded for defenseman Andy Green from the New Jersey devils which we will get into in a little while. Even though it's the first trade here we want to get into the bigger ones. And that is the islanders. Landing PENDING UNRESTRICTED. Free Agent. At the time the quintessential player or the cream of the crop. If you would like to say center that would be available today from the Ottawa. Senators talking about John. Gabriel Gabriel Patio. And when it's GonNa take me a couple of days to to let that roll off the tongue so for now on we'll just say J. G. Patio unbelievable we had a slow start. Today we really did seemed like there was a couple of trades early on Things started to heat up the later in the days when the news came through that you know I think it was dave pag not or One of the other guys had said that. The islanders seemed like they were hot on the heels of Patio and ultimately the islanders made a deal with the Ottawa. Senators to pick up John. Gabriel Patio for the aisles. First Round draft pick in twenty twenty which is a conditional top three protected pick if it is in the top three that pick moves to the first round draft. Pick in twenty twenty one. They also moved the second round. Pick in this year's draft and a conditional third round pick in this year's draft as well but that is contingent on the islanders winning the Stanley Cup this year. Obviously I would love to give up. That pick remains to be seen what happens so essentially we got patio or the islanders got Paseo for conditional first rounder in a second round. Where this year not bad. Obviously this made the green trade earlier in the month a lot more palatable. The islanders have been saying they needed more pop up front. They needed that extra center for depth. And now the islanders definitely have that depth at center with Barzel Nelson now Palacio and then once Zeke is comes back from injury to slot in there as the fourth line center crazy depth. That depth is now locked up for you know quite a bit of years here. I think the only one that really is going to need a new deal at some. Point is Zeke. Is I think he has two years left. But I I love that depth and then it came out that the islanders were looking to extend him right out of the gate. There was a couple rumors. I fell for a fake a fake twitter account. I've really tried to be good with this but I was kind of busy at work. I actually saw Jeff Capellini re tweeted. He got bamboozled too. I didn't even really look and I got yelled at by guys and I blocked. That deleted the tweet so whatever but Paseo then signed a six year extension with the New York Islanders. That was reality is for just over. I think our or at five million a year a the actual breakdown for the contract. I'm pulling it up right now as we look for it is should have had this up. Five million a AV. For six years in the first season five million base two million signing bonus. That's for the start of next season for twenty one twenty two six point five million base twenty two twenty three four point five million base twenty twenty three twenty four four point five million base twenty twenty four twenty five four million dollar base twenty twenty five twenty six. I can't even really think that far ahead. Three point five million dollar base. Here's a full. No trade clause for the first two seasons and a limited no trade for the final last for which is a sixteen trade Notre Sixteen team no-trade list. So that's that's the extent of that really Paseo comes patio comes to the New York Islanders with twenty four goals sixteen cysts and forty points putting him up as the aisles. Third leading scorer between Bailey at four in Nelson at three. He leads the team in goals by two at twenty four now as we've talked about There's no guarantee that he's going to score the same amount or even at the rate that he was up there in Ottawa. He's going to be used On the island in North I sit on the island in ways. That are a little different than he was up there in Ottawa. He was seeing first-line minutes. He was seeing. You know number one power play time and he is going to see penalty. Kill time here on the island. He's GonNa see power-play time. I'm sure Barry Trots is gonNA slot him in as he sees fit mainly as the third line center because he wants to be able to get back to being able to roll for lines which is so important. That's how you've seen the islanders find their success last year and this year and they haven't really been able to do that due to injuries and some personnel issues. But you know he's going to fit in just fine here. He's even set a ton of great things already about the club in. And you know you you see you know players do that with their new club and you know he has a relationship with some of the other. French connection players here. We have our own French connection line in dark pursue art and Anthony My computer is not working but one of the things he said earlier today is to have the chance to be joining the team. Such is such an honor to me. I couldn't be more excited to join a team. That's going to be competing every year for the playoffs or for championship. I couldn't be more excited as a player. That's what we play for. That's what prides us. That's why I'm excited to go and be playing for them. He had also said a couple of things about coming in right out of the gate and playing the New York Rangers. If you don't know patio for the senators scored four goals against the Rangers in the playoffs. He had a game winner. I believe in overtime. He is just a guy that seems to show up in big situations. He had a bunch of great playoff games up there in Ottawa when they had that could team when the islanders were kind of the situation was reversed when the islanders were terrible and Ottawa. Seem to be doing really well so we got a guy that has some plant experience coming in and he seems to be like a another type of energy player and a guy that is a Swiss army knife of hockey players. that'll fit right. In Berry trots system. He had said something also today in Another quote something about the arena. And how you know. He feels islanders. Ownership is dedicated and wants to you know have the best for the team moving forward and he obviously has been dealing with some of that arena issue up there in Ottawa. Is well with you. Know them moving out of Canada tyron or however you say that sitting name which is an hour and a half's drive outside Ottawa. It's ridiculous but we'll see what happens with the arena. Obviously it's it's well in the in the mix here they post updates on Belmont regularly and it's coming along very well but this is another indication of how pending restricted free agents or free agents are looking at the islanders a little differently. That's exciting. I know I was kind of blown away by some of the things that I heard today and will go into that a little bit more in a few minutes. The islanders also earlier in the month like we had previously spoken about traded a second round. Pick in David. Quenneville to the devils defenseman. Andy Green. He is fit in wonderfully here replacing the injured. Adam Pettit Pelvic. The aisles have allowed only seven goals during Greece. Four Games with the New York Islanders. The two assists. He's a plus three and has eight shots I don't know how many hits he has I don't think he's overall super physical guy. I know he has a bunch because I think that The game the other night he had a few. He's not even known for his offense But he's really solidified the pairings back there and has obviously chipped in We saw that great shot from the point that beauvilliers had tipped in and now he another assists the other night as well But he's given The coaching staff A new lease on life back there with the defensive pairs and They really seem to be playing at a level that maybe they were playing at earlier in the year. Which is could see. What else have they done here today? They they made one smaller move a minor league deal with the Toronto. Maple leafs sending winger Matt Loreto to Toronto for Defense Jordan Schmaltz US smarts was previously in the Saint Louis Organization. He's a former first round pick. I believe he was twenty first overall So there's that aspect of it. Obviously he was downplaying in the MARLIES for Toronto. But you could argue that maybe some of the marlins are playing a lot better than the guys on the large club right now. The News of the day obviously next to the patio trade was the deal. That almost happened. I know I was sitting there during lunch in couple of tweets came through. I think it was from Frank. Sev Several E or however you say his name having a terrible time with names tonight. Just the excitement of the whole day makes me feel so drained. Hopefully this is coming across okay The islanders were working on a trade to send. Andrew led to the Minnesota Wild for Zach parise and twitter kind of blew up all the reactions in my time line. We're like WHOA. What look at this? Check this out. I actually A screen shot at a bunch of the tweets because it was just kind of ironic that they were all in a row. Everybody basically had the same reaction that the news came out of essentially field which is probably one of the most exciting things about you know the trade deadline or even free agency is the teams that. Kinda come away with a player that nobody really expected And that's the reason why me as a fan that I I get so into. Today I used to take off on trade deadline day. I treated it like a holiday hole up in my living room with two laptops. I'd have the TV on NHL Network. Have the tsn stream on my computer at one point way back when with my blog. I had told everybody had to get the tsn stream on your phone by cheating the apple APP store with a fake address. So you can have the Canadian apps on your phone and then how to do stuff with VPN and everything else. Maybe some of the stuff would be slightly illegal if you really want to think about that but that always got me a ton of traffic on trade deadline day and I was glad I was able to help a couple of people out. It's it's definitely a fun day. So back to this. Almost trade just made you say Whoa. As news continued to trickle out. It seemed the things were moving in a positive direction. News came out that Zach parise. They had waived his no trade clause Andrew Ladd had waived his no trade clause. It seemed that Minnesota was going to retain a little bit of money on the Zach. Parise deal his deals a little longer than Andrew leads. It's a little bit more money. So there was some back and forth going on with that allegedly The athlete had great articles from both sides. He had Arthur staple on the islanders side. And you had Russo on the wild side. He's the beat reporter for the athletic ultimately. Something fell through. Be It news of the trade leaking or just to the crazy cap. Instances with the money going back and forth and retained. It seemed like it was a complicated deal. I had heard from a couple of people behind the scenes that it was a complicated deal net things you know where we thought as fans or based upon everything. We hadn't heard on twitter that the deal was dead. I had gotten a message that they are actually still working on it and it seemed like it went right down to the wire because you know nobody really knew anything but Arthur staple had the the deal as one for one plus other pieces and we obviously never know what the other pieces are you can maybe assume a defenseman or some sort of other throw in The islanders didn't have any scratches or anything. So it's Kinda hard to go on that avenue. They obviously would try to avoid not giving up a roster player like they didn't have to give up for Andy Green or for patio today as well which is something else that you really need to reference. The islanders improved in two areas this trade deadline without giving up a single roster player from the NHL Club that? That's pretty big. Obviously you can say while it didn't really get a wing in. I was pushing for a wing all day. Which you know the pres would have been but now that leads going to be up. He's he was said to. You know he's going to be up for the rest of the season I hate to say. He's the addition But you have clutter but coming back. You have Zeke is coming back. The islanders are going to get their identity. Blind back to the point where it was. Hopefully they remain healthy here during the next twenty some odd games to end the season. So it's one of those things where they will probably without a doubt revisit this come July. It seemed that Wanted to come to the islanders. Which is huge in it right or wrong because the islanders could have drafted Zach parise and they should have given everything his father accomplished with the New York islanders during the dynasty era. But they could've corrected the wrong of drafting Robert Neilson instead of Zach. Parise say in that that may come to fruition moving forward but apparently the trade was even going back to last summer. It seemed that Lula. Morello talk to the then wild Gm and Paul Fenton last year and I guess the wild really want lad at four years given he hadn't really played a whole heck of a lot with his injuries So I was at the game on Friday and I was questioning. Why lead was even in the lineup? I think I had said it on twitter. I know I said it to my cousin. Who's sitting next to me. This seems an awful lot like a showcase for lead because he hadn't played since December for the islanders and he hadn't played the last two weeks in bridgeport because of an upper body injury. So it is what it is there. I guess you gotTa do what you gotTa do in order to To get players to to move around regardless all this is fantasy for now It could have been. It should have been it. Did prove that Lou. Lamoriello is trying to improve the club. Finally it did prove that there are players out there who are willing to come to New York Islanders. We saw that in Andy Green. We now saw that allegedly in Zach parise so something to keep an eye on moving forward obviously We have a couple of players come back from injury and It was fun and exciting and in kind of a a tiring day to I know my phone had to be charged like eight times today. It was hot at one point. I had to reset it. Apps kept crashing. My phone's not that old either so I don't I don't understand what the heck was going on there. Maybe it's just a little excited like the rest of us but the best part really is that. Paseo tweeted out that he was on his way to New York. There still could potentially be a visa issue that would prevent him from playing tomorrow but all signs are pointing that he is going to be dressing against the New York Rangers who he had mentioned Had some good success against During the playoffs a couple years back so his first game is a New York. Islander wearing number forty four could be against the New York Rangers. And that's just going to be a sight to see. I know I'm excited We're GONNA have a lot more to talk about here. I know I wanted to get something out just to kind of get my feelings of everything here. on the trade deadline Jeff Capellini is GonNa join me Potentially tomorrow after the ranger game. So we'll we'll get everything all caught up there on The rest of the trade deadline in some of the other moves and some of the Games over the last week or so something else I really. I wanted to talk about quick before we. We moved on this episode The amount of twitter responses in the fund that I've had on twitter with all of you guys There's been a bunch of new followers. Obviously all of you existing followers continue to kick button. We have great conversations. So thank you for that But after the whole parise deal fell through. I tweeted at the end of the day. The PARISA thing I feel he would have helped but it wouldn't have helped with the salary cap in the contracts. Do this coming July. Jj Paseo came extended in sounded like a character guy eager to start his aisles career. He helps fill hole. And then I asked for your thoughts. There was a whole bunch I also added. Also you're dealing with two older players in the potential of Capri capture penalties. Which is something we really need to explore it a later date or at least have someone who knows a heck of a lot more than me. I feel as much as it would righted a wrong when the aisles should have drafted Parisa over. Nielsen could have caused too many other issues right now. And that's something Lou lamoriello kind of addressed earlier today. You know you have restricted free agents in Matt Bars L. Next Year Ryan Pool Lock Devante waves. I'm sure that there are others as well. May Even Anthony Beauvilliers I think he he's got a he's going to be due for contract soon. Give all these players that are going to need deals in you. Don't want to lose any of them's is specifically matthew bars. L. Lou had said earlier today that he's GonNa use the time he has. He's not worried about the restricted. Free agents right now but he plans on extending offers to all them. He plans on getting them all signed. So that's a big thing you know that could potentially be part of the reason why the Parisi deal fell through whether or not he was worried about you know Matt Bars L. and maybe even an offer sheet being drawn up by imposing club. That could kind of make things even more crazy for the islanders next season or in the least in this off season. Who knows I mean you got to kind of look at all avenues of things so maybe this is a blessing in disguise. It's good in that. It showed that there are players out there veteran players who their preferred destination is the New York. Islanders I mean Zach. Parise said that at least in an article anyway allegedly. Maybe didn't say it but it sounds good. It's good pr for the team. So moving forward. Maybe somebody else will do this as well but fact that Lula Morello is concerned about locking up his core. Guys the guys that you know. He's giving another shot at the playoffs this year kind of speaks volumes and again. Maybe they dodged a bullet. They don't have to deal with all this crazy contract issue stuff with lead and Parisa. I mean obviously they have to deal with lead for the next couple of seasons. But there's there's that aspect as well regarding some of the reactions of you guys and you know this. This is based on a tweet. I had said yesterday also about previous trades of the New York Islanders. Maybe how they move the needle. You had Ryan Smith and then the Thomas Vanek deals and it was more along the lines of things that kind of pop up out of nowhere and that kind of ties into the whole. Parisa thing because you never know what's GonNa come out of left field so this was kind of an extension to that and a bunch of guys had some great tweets at me Policy Ny Sixteen said. They didn't address the scoring problem while you scoring a lot. This series overall career numbers. Don't scream a sixty three or six by thirty million dollar player disappointed in get bars on the power play help. I don't think this changes much Then you have. Bill outfield built at Bill. Twenty-three short term gain long term pain L. Well then he had Emcee from the Dale. Mtc Two six two who wrote in the last episode a quality player waves his no trade to come to the island and then extended for six years. That's the thing aisles fans. Haven't seen in a long time. I don't know if that's a hundred percent accurate I don't think TASIO had a no-trade clause diddy a bunch of Lovett's Tom McKee at six underscore aisles. The biggest issue with this team all year has been the inability to roll four lines up front. This trade will allow them to finally do that when healthy which should greatly help the end of the year and into the playoffs which is a great point something. I had spoken about a couple of minutes ago. Justin Simon at College Cross agree although I was excited about Parisi with bars L. Even though I know he is past his prime etc but I was excited about that veteran leaner leadership. He would've brought you know and you could. You could say this too. There's a lot of veterans on this team. Whether or not you like it or not. Josh Bailey veteran Brock Nelson veteran. The new have J. G. Patio. Now you could say. He's a veteran at this point Andres Lee veteran you. Look at the goaltending situation. Thomas Grace veteran Varlamov veteran who else we got. Johnny Boy Chuck Andy Green you can go on and on a lot of veterans so it would have been another guy would have been someone who knows obviously Lula Morello very well and again. We're going to see what happens with that moving forward. It's obviously as a story that we're going to be watching very closely Then you got at scone. Egg Sal kind of glare auto. At first I was like yes Parisi but after I thought about it. Who Spot would he have taken? No thanks and those are the type of things really when I look to see what everybody else is thinking. It's always a mixed bag of emotions and I. I liked that I. I like going on the different message boards. I like going on read it. I liked to poke my my nose so to speak in into some of the conversations and I might say some stuff time to Tuck from time to time where you guys kind of question me and I had said something today even where it I had said you know now that we got Tasio I like the green trade even more and I didn't want to seem that I didn't like the Green Trade on. Its own you know and I was called out for that and I don't mind that I like to. I like to talk different avenues to kind of get involved in in different ways. Just another thing. I'm a fan at heart and I don't mind being called out I. I can back up certain things I I don't really take it to heart all that much or or to personally So it's great to see all the different reactions. You know that kind of role in then you have. David Strauss at Ari player lead is up on the roster and bellows is down so it would have been that third line wing over Michael Dell Com- RAV assuming that clutter wasn't included in one of those later to weren't on the fourth line Continue on here. People talking back and Forth Kevin Cosgrove at K. Cosmo ninety four the better today than they were yesterday. Bottomline Zach agrees which is at Zachary. Seven eight nine zero zero Let's see who else here. Joey Mena Cini at Mendocino. Joey agree I do think the parise thing will be revisited. I'll signed all their RFA's and Martin get Sarokin over. And I don't know if any big name free agent top six wants to come. I obviously again. That's another thing. We didn't really talk about Thomas. Greis is going to be an unrestricted free agent. Do they sign him to a one year deal or two year deal? Do THEY NOT Sarokin has seems like he was gonna come over and Friday. It seemed like that the islanders had traded his rights supposedly to Chicago. Suppose I had read you know and I don't know if this was an incarcerated Bob tweet or not. I am not sure Was Alex debrincat and Brandon. Saad for the rights to Sarokin. I would have thought maybe the Leonard would have come back. It would obviously raise some eyebrows in a lot of people had said the same thing on twitter ultimately not true. You had the the big Russian guy eager over there Shoot down right away. He's been spot on for all Russian things especially with Sarokin over the last couple of seasons so glad that that didn't happen but Sarokin obviously GONNA come in next year solidify the back end with Varlamov in. He's going to need a deal. So that's another thing you got going on overall lot. A lot of crazy fund things today and You know I guess. We'll we'll see if jeff and I get together. What other avenues we can get down and talk about some of the Games here Over the losing streak and the previous jeff four here where the islanders Kind of answered back. Got Two games in a row with it. They wanted home which was good to see Friday on Sunday so Thanks for listening. This is going to be a little short one just as your trade analysis so to speak and I mean hope you enjoyed it. This has been Michael Sherline with the aisles. Faithful podcast episode number. I don't even know what episode forty four of the twenty fourth and February let's go.

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Episode 35: The Sweeping

The Isles Faithful Podcast

34:53 min | 2 years ago

Episode 35: The Sweeping

"Daddy. What are you doing? We're recording a podcast. He's listening islander fans are listening. Where are they the right here? Welcome to the isles fateful podcast with your host, Michael sherline. Hello and welcome back to the isles faithful podcast. I am your host Michael sherline as always. And this is episode number. Thirty five today is Sunday may fifth Cinco de mayo. Normally we would be celebrating on this glorious taco day or a Mexican fiesta day. But today. We're a little sad. At least. I'm a little said, I'm sure most of you guys out there in islanders nation. The aisles faithful nation are also a little said because we're obviously still reeling from being swept by the Carolina Hurricanes who knew at the beginning of the playoffs that the New York Islanders would sweep the Pittsburgh Penguins. And then ultimately face the buzzsaw of Carolina. But here we were we went through a ten day stretch. Or we like, I always make that mistake. They as in the New York Islanders and company would go through a ten day stretch of inactivity, some practices and everything which we've spoken about. And Carolina went seven games with Washington only had a couple of days rests. We obviously know where that went and we'll get into that in a little while as well. But came off that sweep. Islanders looked good and games. One and two didn't really look so great and game strain for what could have been. But what's not? And again, we'll get into that in a little bit. I wanna start off this episode. I have a lot of stuff written down here. I don't wanna be accused of not preparing things all that much. And I don't have a lot of statistical information here because it's not really what the episodes going to be about just wanted to get a few key points down. Get some discussion going. We'll talk a little bit on Twitter, maybe will fire up the discord channel. Again, it gets you guys involved in that way to here. I know there's just there's a lot of people who wanna say a lot of things. And if you follow along on Twitter, it's just been insane. I know aisles read it has also been insane. Some of the boards like Linders main are islander mania and h f boards. Just lots of awesome discussion will touch on some of those things. And then maybe we'll have a two part thing here once break-up day happens tomorrow. So first things first, congratulations. Go out to Brendan Burke for being nominated for bets. Best sports play by play some others. That were in that group were Mike Breen of MSG network's Ian eagle of. Yes. Network's Michael Kay. Who's that guy? Michael kay. I have no idea who he is. Right jeeze. Also, obviously have. Yes networks and Ryan ru Oko of. Yes. Network's as well. So congratulations, all those guys. I don't know who ultimately won. I'm sure we'll see some of that here in the next day or so. But again, congratulations to Brendan Burke. Thank you for doing everything that you do you are a godsend to the New York. Islanders fan base and Emma. She networks you're so good at what you do. And I told you earlier this year via Twitter that you had big shoes to fill once you came in filling in for how he rose or replacing Howie rose. And you've outgrown them ready as evident by all of the games that you've been. Asked to call for NBC and some of the other. Networks across the nation here in on the national stage show. It's good to see you get the recognition you deserve. We love you as honor fans, obviously. And can't wait to hear you. Call a game soon. Another little thing. I wanted to talk about is Jack Foley, and you know, him as super Jack I had his mom and Jack on a couple episodes ago. Jack Foley, and they are going to be in a walk for the children's heart foundation. It's known as congenital heart walk it. Sometime this month in may here, I think towards the end of the month and they're raising money for their team. So their current totals up at three hundred and twenty five dollars if you can go, and you could donate that would be great. I set up a little short link, obviously. So that if you're listening to this it's easy to pop it in your phone. It'll also be in the show notes. I'll throw it up on Twitter as well. But if you wanna donate to the cause you can go to bit B, I T dot L Y forward. Slash super Jack. That's B IT dot L Y slash super, Jack. So head over there donate if you can let's get them to their goal. I believe it's twelve hundred dollars thirteen hundred dollars something like that. So let's surpassed that goal Jackson superkid. Obviously if you don't know at this point keys, the little boy who had the sign for Robin Lener at the Toronto game. The last game of the season at the calcium got to meet, Robin. Leonard got to be Thomas Christ. Some of the other players wanna believing there to goalie sticks autographed and a bunch of other things as well. So good to see that. I met up with him a couple times during the playoffs, and his is awesome. Mom. Lauren miss you guys. Can't wait to see you again soon. I know he's got some really fun things going the summer for him with the Matt Martin camp and everything like that. So where are we right now? We've got a lot of things that are going to have to be dealt with this summer. We obviously at this point didn't know the season would turn out this way when I. I started the podcasts over the summer last year. I didn't even know the podcast would get the popularity that it has. So I wanted to thank you guys. The loyal listeners for just keeping me active on Twitter, and forcing me to write a little bit here and there and obviously getting my thoughts out there. I I never would have thought that my thoughts. Here would be listened to in the way that would you guys have done and last episode or two ago, and I hate the last episode that I put out I just I should have never done it sounded terrible compared to what you're listening to right now. But we surpassed ten thousand downloads, which is mind blowing to me, we're averaging. More than I even would like to admit per episode here. The last ten or fifteen we have a couple that are over five hundred episode, and I know that small in comparison to some of the other podcasts, I'm sure that Carver over at the aisle seat, probably shatters that, but it is what it is. I'm just a little guy over here. But we're since have almost twelve thousand. In those two small episodes of thank you so much. I have some big things in store for the aisles faithful podcast here over the summer and into the future. And you never know maybe some more guests and everything like that. I know Mark said he wanted to come back for up so thirty seven maybe get some of his other alumni involved there to be really cool thing to to get some history and former players to talk about what they loved about that team in two three like Mark has done the last couple that he's been on. So look out for that. But here we are we got some key unrestricted free agents that lamelo is gonna have to deal with obviously with the input of his awesome coaching staff. Barry trots, thank you so much for just really killing it this year the gold from the worst goals against to the best defensive system that you installed. I cannot. Thank you enough as a fan. This was a fun season. Didn't end the way that we all wanted. But I am more than happy with the result. I mean, obviously, I wouldn't have liked to have been swept here this second round. But for this management group to equal what the last took ten years to accomplish in one season, not even a full calendar year, like nine months. I mean, lamb rela was obviously hired by trots was hired probably accounted year ago this point because at this point of the year, we were still reeling from that crazy press conference where Garth snow and Doug weight were sitting there dumbfounded. But this crazy look on their face. And I wrote about this. And I was so pissed off at the time. I'm still kind of agitated about that. But I mean, we have happier things to think about right now, again, not either here nor there, but to to see the difference from then until now is mind blowing to me, I love it this everything about this season. I just love obviously, we could have had a score to edit here at the deadline, but I'm not going to nitpick, right? 'cause why are we going to nitpick? There's no reason to. We have some key under stricter free agents. And again, I'm keep getting sidetracked with this as much as I write stuff down the stream of consciousness, sometimes that comes out, which is probably why some of you listened because I'm all over the place, but as any typical typical sports guy, and he typical islander fan or New Yorker, even right because I'm sure that my New York accent comes out from time to time. We get sidetracked. So we have Lee, obviously, he's probably gonna be one of the ones that is going to get a contract here if not in the next week or so definitely before the Doug line and were kind of fast approaching the summer here. It's almost through the first week of mayor any may we just finished playing hockey in may. Wow. Anyway, Li everyday I don't know if they're gonna sign every I I liked what he did in the first round. I I liked what he did for extent extended periods. Obviously last season not so much this year. I know he dealt with some personal stuff. We Brock Nelson. The October guy Brock Tober. We made the joke of he was Brock vendor and all these other month kind of names here, and he had a great first round as well. He had a terrible couple of first games in the second round really stepped it up in the coming games and had that little head Pat of mcelhinney, which was kind of Sterckele Dougie. Hamilton, definitely got pay back to him in the handshake line might not have agreed with the time to do it there. One hundred percent, but look topnotch troll job by him and the Carolina Hurricanes as well on Twitter. And then obviously the biggest UFA from me Robyn lender. Brian Compton was on NHL network radio today on on serious. And you know, he talked about Robin Leonard, and it how he has a lot to think about it was also in his NHL dot com. Article today is well if you didn't read that seems like he's got a lot of stuff you wants to work on in the in the off season here. It's still very fresh in his mind. Nobody really wanted its end the way that it did. So he's got to have a lot to think about hopefully, he winds up signing here on Long Island. I know there's some question marks in goal there as well. We have Thomas Greis with one year left on his deal the white whale as Carver likes to refer to him. Ilias sarokin won the Garin Cup over in Russia. He's got one year left on his Russian deal. He could potentially by himself out and come over to North America. That is obviously the biggest unknown. We don't even know of his play style and success is gonna transfer over to the North American game. My line of thinking is you know, what you have him as an asset item not necessarily saying that we should trade him as in sarokin Amine. You know, what you have in Robin letter and Thomas grace, and I believe that Robin lender for all his accolades this season. Now at this point he's nominated as a finalist for the Vezina. He's a finalist for the Masterton trophy. Him and Thomas Chris shared the Jennings trophy. He needs a reward for all his work this year. And again, I know there's this weird buzzwords sustainability. And all these other crazy analytical things that have been going against the islanders and their goaltending all season long. But you know, what he has earned a deal here. He loves it here. He loves the team. He has the support. Why would you not reward him? So that is a very big story that we're gonna be watching here moving forward. Then you have some of the lesser names. Tommy, Kuna Akot is an unrestricted free agent. Dow Terry FILA, I'm not against bringing fill a back for the right deal. Maybe another one year deal. Not really sure he had really really good year. He was way more valuable than we ever could have imagined. You kinda say the same for Tom Kuhn alkyl as well. He didn't really see very much playing time throughout the season. He did wind up playing most of the playoffs had some some key. The key goals during the season. He he had that crazy behind the back Ovechkin style goal always fallen down that we could all hearken back to then he got Spezia and Dennis Seidenberg, which I'm sure that both of them who knows. Be moving on or side. Berg might get another reward for, you know, hosting young met bars L in his premise, but we never know. Couple of our phases. Well, Anthony Beauvilliers Josh ho sang in Michael Dell Cole. Ho-sang? Biggest question Mark for all the ups and downs. This kid has had in the organization. What do you do do you? Give him a one year show me deal. You continue to push him to use him in a trade. He is under team control. I don't know Beauvilliers. Kind of disappeared for stretches during the playoffs here. He had a couple of clutch goals did kind of look solid. I liked the way that he was playing. But again, he was dangled in deals down the trade deadline stretch there. So never know how the organization feels about him. Dow coal proved himself stayed up all year did go down for paperwork, real reasons, or whatever. And I think during the all star break as well. So he might be rewarded as well. Also all boils down to who's gonna stay who's gonna go, you could see some trades. I know Arthur staple has said numerous times that a guy like letty potentially be moved forward. Help for depth. The biggest thing that they need is a scoring winger are Tammy Pinera n-. Hello. But is going to be multiple Sudas for him. We really don't know what's going to happen there. Especially with all the stuff in New York City going on right now, you have all these kids in Russian. Kids being signed a plethora of draft picks Adam Faulk signing there. He was Carolina. Prospect was traded last week only wanted to sign with the Rangers. So some good things happening there for the Rangers gonna be tough. You also have all the movement down in Florida with the Panthers. Joel Quenneville was signed is the head coach. There was speculation that Brodsky and Pinero potentially wind up down there. In south Florida, obviously remains to be seen who knows. They're definitely going to be active down there. The islanders are going to have a ton of cap space almost thirty two million for next year. So obviously, they have contracts offered to a couple of players here. But again. We're gonna see soon enough as these players begin to either be signed or reach July. First, you never know. I definitely don't want to lose another captain for the second year in a row to free agency. That would just be detrimental. So all that stuff. Besides we have the sweep to talk about we have some non goals during the different series. Posts bounces the whole Brooklyn Coliseum dynamic. I I don't really understand that ten days off could've helped could've hurt. Remains to be seen. We will discuss that as well. The Carolina buzzsaw, and like I previously mentioned no trades at the deadline. So as we move into some analysis here on the second round. I'll start first by saying I was at the Barclays for the twenty sixteen playoffs. Obviously the overtime win to push us into the second round for the first time in god-knows-how-long twenty years. Right. Was amazing. It was loud is boisterous was fun. That was when the Barclays loved the islanders right now. There's no love there. There's no love from fans to the Barclays is no love from the team to the Barclays is. No love from the Barclays to the fans. There's no love from the Barclays to the islanders. There's just no love in any direction. So to go from the Coliseum half the season. And then to go for the first round and to hear how loud it wasn't to see how excited fans were I loved it. I was excited. We were tailgating again, we were back at the barn back at fort. Never lose. It legitimately was Ford. Never lose again. Should it? Go from that. And then to go into the second round with this excitement of sweeping the Pittsburgh Penguins. In the first round to go in there to be excited and for to not be loud. Not blaming the fans. The fans were loud the buildings just weird. It's weird. The roof is like a billion feet high. It's so high you could probably make clouds inside the building if the conditions were right. I'm surprised that with the air conditioning, and that ice and everything else that there aren't clouds in there and many thunderstorms happening because that's just what happens the term for that in air conditioning. As you all know, I'm HVAC guy, the term for that would be called stratification is a legitimate thing. It happens in big buildings all the time. Granted it's not really exciting. As it seems it'll just make fog if you've ever been to ice hockey rink somewhere. It's like an indoor outdoor rink sort of or even fully indoor rink and the humidity is just right. They'll be fog in the building. It's just one of those things. For the goals to be called back. The Matt bars Al goal Lee gets an interference penalty. It sucked the life right out of the building. There was a couple of goals that recalled back, and it just sucked whatever life islander fans managed to get right out of the building. And they were never able to get back into the game. If that goal would have stood in game one. And I know coulda shoulda woulda Mike. Right. Coulda shoulda woulda. I do not like to live my life by coulda shoulda woulda. But in this case map bars L should've gotten a goal in. That instance, it is what it is at this point. We obviously know that it was a week goal in overtime for Carolina. Take a one nothing win. Robin Leonard played out of his mind. Just the one little stupid pass. Then you have stall in the correct spot. Boom beats letter. What are you gonna do? Right. Should have been one nothing. It was game to same type of things back and forth. I don't remember. Specifically what it was exactly? I think the oh right everyday everyday hits the crossbar. You have that inexplicable. Whistle kerry. Frazier even asked or mentioned about it on Twitter. Why the heck was that? A whistle should have been a review. All this other stuff inexplicable inexplicable. See, I can't even talk. You can't explain why. That's basically what I was trying to say the puck is loose Leon missing the net. Anyway. But again coulda shoulda woulda the puck was live mcelhinney at that point was was at mcelhinney or was it a probably was Matt claiming at that point because Meraz left in. Injured I believe halfway through game. So he's swimming around on his back. Unbelievable. Four five bounces come on five goals called back or reviewed over two rounds for the New York Islanders. How does that happen? Five times five then there was a another one where looked like it went in. But who lock kinda shot the puck wide, and it got stuck on the outside of the net from my vantage point from where I was and I posted a picture about my sight line at the Barclays for the second game. My buddy was to my left Travis if you're listening, thanks for for all the hard work for getting those tickets happy birthday to my godson ralphie too. By the way, it was fun to see you guys yesterday. If he was not leaning over my shoulder, essentially, I posted a picture from his viewpoint. He could not see the net. There's a wall to his left anyway. So from our vantage point of looked like it went in we cheered. Oh, no goal. So again life got sucked right out of the building. Not really a fault of the islanders or the Barclay. I mean, yeah, it's always going to be the fault of the Barclays, but not really the fault of the honors there. Just what do you do? Just you have home-ice advantage. Look at Carolina Carolina had nineteen thousand raucous fans. It was so loud. You couldn't hear the announcers on television. That is the same way that it was at the Coliseum. You could not hear when I watched a replay on MSG. You could not hear the announcers. You couldn't hear the announces in the building can hear on TV. That's the same atmosphere that Carolina had and good for them. They have had terrible hockey for almost as long as the islanders had prior to this season. Or at least the islanders had New Yorker hockey. We made the playoffs a couple of times, but never made it out of the first round inside from twenty sixteen. So I'm not gonna fault them. Look Carolina played better. They won they were fresh will maybe not fresh. But they definitely where the tougher team and looked. Rod Brindamour coached very well. We obviously didn't have an answer for a lot of what they did. So again, kudos. Hopefully, you guys don't get swept with the curse in third round there. But you are bunch of jerks. Jeez. So many different things to talk about. Could the ten days off factored into that? I mean, the intensity like I mentioned previous here in the beginning of the episode the intensity hard to match you've if you've played hockey, you know, that practice is hard to match the intensity of game day. They've said this. I mean, I've been hockey fan my entire life. They've said this from day one of me being a fan. It's it's really hard for you to practice game scenarios when it's not a game. The speed is different the timing between plays and passes and everything is different. You have to make split-second decisions. In nanoseconds during game time, you have a little extra time in practice because it's not going to be as hard. And that's why hockey is such a crazy sport is the fastest game on earth for reason, it really it's you need to be quick with your decisions. And if you're at practice with that intensity, plus on top of the fact that you're not gonna get hit to the point where you can get hurt in practice. They're not ever going to do that it s they may contact. But there the intensities just not there like keep saying. Could things have been different. If Lula Morello made a move down the debt the stretch of the deadline. They obviously were in it for stone. They knocked on the door for Duchenne, which they could revisit again there in July, which would write a strange wrong. Not that it was a wrong because they drafted Varas which was the right move at the time. But to Shane was right there for the taking his well. And you know, look he could still wind up on the islanders at some point. I don't know you potentially give picks they're going to be important here. They could be included in a package we still own picks the season, we have a bunch of prospects that we hold onto that could potentially be moved as well just going to be one of those things are gonna have to wait and see like I keep saying. So it's definitely going to be an interesting off season. It one hundred percent will be we have all that cap space. We have Lula Morello. We have the drug Barry trots. We have Matt bars l a couple of kids down in Bridgeport could push for spots next season. I'm excited about it. If the islanders were this good with one season and not any trades or really roster things aside from Leo comrade coup. Nakal Philp LA the trade from the trade from Martin. I am excited to see. What's gonna happen here in your to under trots and Lula Merill? I really am gonna be really really really fun. It was fun this season. Again, it didn't have the ending that we wanted. But look is really really good year for the New York. Islanders and fans, we have all the different meet up groups, and I can't even really at this point begin to tell you how many groups have popped up, but aisles meet up Charlotte aisles, meet up Tampa aisles, meet a rally aisles, meet up jersey, aisles meet up. I think Denver we have south Florida Tampa. I think I ready said we have Philly. There was one in France. I think I saw is a couple that popped up in Canada. We have California just all over the places of it's amazing to see all these tramps transplanted islanders. Stick to their fandom and meet up with like minded people. I think it's amazing. I didn't get to really hang out with anybody this year, hopefully next year now that I can plan in advance definitely wanna make advance events here in there. I also have plans to go on the road and see some way games. I've never done that before I've been a fan. Like, I said my whole entire life. The only other arenas I've been to aside from the Coliseum in the Barclays has been MSG and the prudential center now in the past when excuse me. In the past when I've gone to drafts I've been Ottawa. I I've been to Montreal I've been up to Toronto I went to LA, but I did not get to go see games in those arenas. So while I have been to the arenas. I have not gotten to see games. So that's something else. I plan to do. Now. I wanna talk a little bit about the future of the podcast here. I'm gonna continue to do things here for the next week or so just to catch up. Like, I said, I wanna maybe fire up discord to get a bunch of guys involved have some roundtable in that respect. I also at will obviously chime in from time to time with short little episodes as news trickles through. We will probably take a small hiatus when you know, there's quiet time from here and there and obviously up until the draft and then free agency, we may or may not. Like, I said have some guests from time to time just to fill things and talk about some fun little tidbits Hiles history. And try to get some other guests and have some fun. Also, I to absorb ago had mentioned that I someone had reached out to me about donations. And I thought long and hard about this, and I have not had any advertisers. I've had some people reach out about sponsorships and stuff, and we will revisit that. Really don't wanna make this to commercial. It's kinda just fun. But at the same at the same time. It does cost me quite a bit of money to to keep up the hosting and everything else, and I do plan on moving the website to different hosts when it's a little faster. I love blueberry. I'm actually staying with blueberry, which hosts the actual audio podcast part of it. But I'm talking about the web host part. It's kind of slow sometimes, and I'm gonna be moving the website. So if you want to donate there is a donate button on the website. I will actually add it to the main page as well. But if you click about us, I believe there is a donate link. It's through pay pal. You can either set up a recurring donation if you want you can throw me five ten dollars. Whatever you feel you want. You don't even necessarily have to. But it'll help me in certain areas. There have had a couple of donations or ready so tristen, and Jeff thank you so much for your generous donations. A no you guys have been longtime listeners have reached out to me in the past for things, and I cannot even begin to show you the gratitude and appr-. Chichan from what you guys had done. I I can't thank you enough. Also. Jeez. So many different things. I plan on improving certain aspects of the podcast. I've learned a lot as I've gone along here. I had no idea about audio or anything else. I've bought bits and pieces of equipment here and plug ins for everything. And at I I'm gonna continue to learn I literally read every single day. I'm on the sub read it on read it, obviously for podcasting. And I read different things on audio and stuff like that. I'm definitely not an audio engineer which I've joked before, but I do like to have the podcast sounds as best as possible. And that's why the last episode kind of annoyed me so much. I'd purchased a second Mike just try to get things while not home out there. It was a quick little one. It took me a lot to get the sound to the point where I was okay with it. But once it was up, and I listened to it in the car and on my phone. I I don't think I'm ever going to do that. Again. It's not what I want. I would rather just wait to put put out what I know. I can do here at home in the. Quote, unquote studio, which is my unfinished basement with lots of noise, but I do try to keep the noise to a minimum. And that's why I've purchased what I have. So I will keep you guys updated in that regard as well. If anybody has any suggestions or tips, I'm always open to it. There is linked to the Email on the Facebook page and Twitter and everywhere else. You ready obviously know how to get hold of me. So at this point of the podcast. I should probably be quiet because we're about a half an hour. And I think I've rambled on for enough year. I love you guys. I really do. Thank you so much for everybody that I have met this season in person at the tailgates enduring games too many names to list, so many people have reached out to me to tell me that you know, they love the podcast. They love what I do a few people in person don't even know how you recognize me. It's not like I post pictures all that often, but you are out there, and I've blown away by all the support. Thank you so much. So as we move forward here, you will hear from us here at the aisles faithful again, we will keep everybody updated and abreast all the breaking news. So check us out on Twitter faithful aisles, you could check out my other name, which I have been considering changing. I don't know if I should I should. But it's at aisles blogger for my personal stuff of not really personal. It's all hockey related. We also are everywhere that you consume podcasts were on apple podcasts rear on Google kissed Ron Stitcher Spotify pod bean, all the popular ones. 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Focusing on Bruins Positives to Start the Season | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

Poke the Bear

24:12 min | 4 months ago

Focusing on Bruins Positives to Start the Season | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

"And welcome in to poke the bear episode 27. I have married off ski alongside Connor and a Boston Sports Journal Connor how we doing Evan? I'm doing very well very excited as you can see behind me. I'm at the TD Garden right now is a garden. Yeah a very excited believe you and I will both be there for as this gets dropped today's home openness. So supposed to be back. It's been a long long time. I think Thursday March 8th by some hours of the garden. So long time coming mine was before that. I think it was sometime in January, but for you you're there now you're camping out. You're there. You're no one said anything else. I can just hang out here. That's like a popcorn machine. I think, you know, it's enough sustenance for overnight at least and we'll see what happens from there some leftover soda from last March. You're not even ask you want to get home. Danny got me. All right. Well, I will be broadcasting remotely for the rest of the season anyways, but very nice to obviously I am not seen the garden since that time either cuz you you were this would be the first time you see the garden as well. Correct? Oh, yeah. Yeah. The last game was that crazy game against wage say we're like Chara which is also funny that's charger last game as as a brunette TD Garden, but we're a heated surrogate shed stick and there's a huge huge brouhaha. So it's just been a very long time. It has no it's been a while. So I'll be excited to see it in all its Glory. I was driving around there today looking for a good place to park cuz I'm not taking the T and I don't want home T. Not these days when those people do a great job down there. I just worry a lot of people on there and you know, if I really don't want to expose myself to that, but I was scouting out parking places and I just realized wage. Not been even in that area since I've had no reason to go down there. So it's so cool to see it. It's all built up. There's so many things that are added there now that I don't remember we went down there. There's like five new Cafe the Euros is a Santa there's eight new songs on Tara Banks. Yes, of course, you know, what's so funny is like you look at the Garden itself. Like if you go back and watch like the 2011 parade and they're outside the garden you look at the changes that's been that have been made to that area in just like nine years is absurd. They don't have that boring-ass like parking lot in front like they had before that it's one of you watch all those videos though, cuz like all of it looks completely different but then you just have to sell these tap on the corner. Just still Standing Tall, which I think it's been there since like, I'm like 16,000 I think so there's they're still rolling. Yeah. No, but it's so cool to see it and I'm excited for it. So let's get into talking some hockey first. Let's get some some injury news out of the way Matt grzelcyk on Wednesday. De a lot of people fear that this might be a big deal. He was out practicing Wednesday biggest piece of news to happen Wednesday, actually, January 20th, 2021 will always be remembered for the Matt grzelcyk is practicing day. And I think I I will tell my children about where I was when I read the tweet that said Matt grzelcyk was practicing but nevertheless the nation is at ease now that the Bruins now they have their best left shot D morning. Good morning in America. Again. Matt grzelcyk is practicing but he is he is back and it they didn't come out and officially say that he is going to be playing tonight or Thursday when ever listen to this in the home opener, but bought a science point to this is not a long-term injury big bullet dodged by them. Oh, yeah. I mean you look at this team and just the way the way they're built and you look on that left side of the defense and how long experience it is and you know granted lausanne has been solid and things of world's been a bright spot for this team. But still you lose probably your best part carrier your guy who you have given the keys to the power play to log. New added on top of already the struggles in terms of you know, even strength scoring if you lose Gallagher is like for, you know, even a couple of weeks considering how crucial this status we've only got fifty six games to get a playoff spot. It adds one major issue on top of another for this team that already is kind of on the ropes right now, especially going up against a tough team in Philly wage for the Bruins. It's definitely a bullet dodged. I mean you you watch that video when it first happened and he lands awkwardly and you worry about his shoulder which he's had shoulder problems in the past, you know doesn't look good time. And again like over the course of need to Game season, you're used to kind of the bumps and bruises and guys being day-to-day and missing a week or two and that's part of the territory, but now it's 56 games and you have to get up to a hotspot even losing the guy like Grizzly for Any amount of time considering the way this process built would be a tough hit for the Bruins. So thankfully it seems like the Bruins of as you said dodged a big bullet there because you know McEvoy m a trial in on the top, you know power playing up with and I mean, who do you kind of Turn To You Right? Is it John Moore? Is it back in 9 in who has on board Jacobs Borel Manning the second unit. Can you imagine it's like, you know zekka 9 and you know Cassidy mentioned him multiple times during camp, but you know, see I don't think Bruins fans expected, you know, you win the Presidents Trophy the next year the left side of the defense is that was on back in and and squirrel if you told people that going into this offseason, I think it would have believed you. So thankfully it seems like we do have to worry about that situation quite yet at least know that's the thing and so I think that's a huge bullet dodged some people on Twitter saying like a broken wrist, but good to see that it seems that that he is all good from that cuz it was an awkward fall. It was an awkward fall and I think that you know, I don't think yep. Be much confidence in a John Moore LED defense or you know or lead left side. So the Bruins obviously Dodge a big bullet there. I didn't really know how to bet on that situation. But if I were to bet on a situation, I would go to my good friends over bed online. 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Now again, enter promo code c l on us fifty. That's c l n s 54 50% Welcome bonus on your first deposit that online app online Sportsbook experts. All right, so I promise we will get two positives for the majority of the episodes. But before we do there is one negative Andre Kasha now, Outkast he says he has no idea when he's returning. This was a fluke injury two miles would could old miles would and honestly as much as Bruins fans might want to rag on miles would this didn't seem that intentional to seem to sort of like a like a hockey player. I mean, this was not like a you know, oh my God miles would Matt cooked Andre Pasha. It was more just, you know, battling on the corner and cashing it. Somehow got the worst of it dead. Where do the Bruins go from here with a guy like Tasha? Well, you know, we don't have an idea yet on what the exact injury is, you put the pieces together though, considering the concussion history. That cashes had a couple would just kind of the Optics of it. I mean God takes a head up high and seems losing on the bench getting down to the room. Yeah, they had to help him to the right. Yeah, you can kind of infer a fact that is right. So and for that situation, right, there's no Rhyme or Reason in terms of you know, chatting out a a recovery timeline for concussions or any brain related injuries. So it seems like them or less with Cassidy said today in terms of how they're viewing. This is you kind of just it's a day-by-day situation of how he's feeling kind of managing it from there. But for the Bruins, it's a you know, a a tough hit for them. That's the cashier who was like, you know, we've been waiting for him to break through and we have to wait a little bit longer now and for the Bruins, you know you hope that David pastrnak comes back home. Within the next you know, maybe the end of next week maybe early the week after that, you know, right before the calendar flips of February, but you still feel a lot better about your chances right deposit comes back and you have cautious faith in their Smith's on 3rd line. At least you had would you expect for set guys on that right side. That was what Cassidy mentioned, you know from the start of training camp was keeping those second or third lines together and now it's all pretty much gone downhill, right? I mean, it's it's it's pretty much been put in a blender since since that game against the the devil's so tough home for for the Bruins tough electric Asha. And again, it's tough to really tried out a exact timeline. It's not like it's an offseason surgery or something that you tested on the ice. You can be fine one day and the next day you're you're out of it again. So it's pretty much a wait-and-see approach but not the start obviously all parties are looking for there with gotcha. Yeah, and that's sort of the issue is you don't know you can wage. Cover I mean you can recover but it's always there it's lingering and and so you know for me, I just think that that with Kasha it's just it's something I could give, you know, the guy's got to be on the ice at some point and at some point maybe he'll score a goal may be under Andre Kasha will finally finally finally score a goal off when that day comes I I'm not very sure of it and I don't I think you're I think you're Frozen. I I think I am. I don't know why it's like the dumbest face. I don't know why it's doing that cuz I guys offer audio is fine, right? Yeah. That sounds great. I just think I see the screenshot of that that's going on Twitter and there's something in there. Hopefully various. I'm trying to hang out. Hang on 1 second. Wait wait for it if I click it back on and it's the same picture. I'm going to be so upset. Please tell me it's the same picture. Oh wow. Work and now you're working now good like his face. All right, we're back. We're back. We're back. We're white leave that in he thinks candid that'll be kind of funny. Please do that will be funny people who are listening in their cars or like what are they talking about? Liberals ringside on YouTube find out you'll see them is actually the part of the guerrilla marketing campaign. So you're welcome for haha. Yep. We got we got you guys. Yeah, we'll take whatever we can get. But yeah, it's funny when I was saying the cache of it. I was like I could tell you were just like what the hell is wrong with Connor that is either being very stoic or the videos Frozen. So like what but anyways, so yeah, that is the cash upfront and why not why we're having a good time to talk some positives because I think there are a few they don't get covered obviously because no one cares what the positives obviously things are very negative people like being negative and we love to overreact. It's a good job. But there have been positives and number one the positive that no one saw coming. The defense actually looks pretty damn good. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean I think going into the years like everyone was seemed like the narrative was this is the best food depth Bruins have had in years. It's just how their defense going to hold up and you lose a guy like Char and a guy like crew just walk in front of a basic usage standpoint of this is the amount of minutes both those guys logged. So, you know from the the Bruins perspective that you have guy like loves on holding his own that you've got divorced who granted they're feeding him like crazy ozone minutes like he's getting like Brent Burns ozone. But as a whole though, like you look at how he's played off and lausanne and how the regulars like Kalo and McEvoy you have to be happy with what you've seen from them so far and as much as you know, Raskin halak have been fantastic and like wage We could be looking at an 03 record of hawakan Resto make a few of those good saves like you know, I looked at some of the numbers I think Rask is 20-second walk or 26 amongst goalies and high danger changes again. So, of course you get a few those breakaways which are the saves you need to make but they're not like these guys are you know under assault life a Martin Jones or these defenses where they're just a complete Civ right where they're constantly facing, you know traffic in front and hide danger looks so again, we'll see what happens when they play in a team that's not you know, the devils are the Islanders in terms of you know, how much talent they have upfront Green Tea Room at Devil's might be good. Like we can print out another time of like we'll see how like a few of these teams down work, but I think you have to be encouraged from what you seem to defense so far hasn't been perfect even like girls like had a good game on Monday before he got hurt, but he had a pretty rough game on Saturday so dead. That kind of you know, you roll with the punches there with the team where you have a lot of guys in new roles, but as a whole, you know, the defense has not been the reason why they they're one one and once at the oh, yeah. No and that's the good thing is a lot of people including us were worried that Raskin a lock. We're going to face a lot better chances this year and through three games that seem to be the case at all. And I think that that that the the structure is still there with the the the way they play, you know in their own zone is still there. It doesn't it seems to have not changed like the Patriots in the sense bring it doesn't matter the personalities matter of strategy Bruce Cassidy is just Bill Belichick. We all know that course, but at any rate that you know, again this immoral starting all those ozone times, it's like, you know, sure go for it like to me. It's like just utilize these guys right off a manage the borough's minutes well enough as you said and you said this all offseason he was going to be like a linebacker you weren't going to notice of or unless he messed up and through three games that sort of been the thing on the borolas. You don't really notice them. You don't because he's doing his job and I think Bruins fans should like that especially out of a third pairing defenseman. You're not noticing him at all. And I think that that is a very very good thing Lazar and also got home better. I think each game. I think lausanne had a rough first game with McEvoy but ever since he's been good. I mean solid every game I see he is actually getting better handling the puck as we know we can you know hit well and all those things but moving the puck well seems like low zones. Also another guy who who's been been doing a lot better. If we're going to continue on this positive train. We need to talk about the sixth-best line and hockey I think that's the what they are six or seven. Yeah in terms of expected goals percentage. So yeah in terms of just how they're negating chances. Yeah. It's just the one we all expected to be the best line on the Bruins, right? Yes, of course, by the way, I'd like to preface, you know, we both have said lately expected goals are not real goals. They should be but they're not yes dog. As we talked about this, I know you guys are all probably angry like you didn't put up any goals. Well, I know you know, but truthfully they've been doing pretty good job Trent Frederic Sean. Creveling Chris Wagner pretty good God. Yeah. No, I mean they're exact they're doing exactly what you're hoping that false line does and as much as I think people still view the fourth line is kind of you know, the moral own line with the Bruins back in the day where it just dies off in the crap on a guy's I mean in Cassidy system, if you that fourth lines just a grouping out there that can really negate another top-six forward Trio. So, I mean you're seeing that I mean they're giving a lot of ozone stats to create G giving a lot to Bergeron hopefully get them rolling on offense, but I think Frederick's only had about 7% of his faceoffs have been in the the ozone guys are just getting set to the Wolves more or less and despite that against top six opponents. They're pretty much tilting the ice. Strongly in the Bruins favor. I mean the Bruins had more shot attempts scoring chances when Frederick and Crowley's line were matched up against Matt bars all against the Islanders which home and you take that match for every single time because usually the teams playing well and you have that for flying to get any of the team's top six you're giving Bergeron and krejci and those guys more ozone reps more chances are so if you clicking that's that's the easiest recipe to an easy win for the Bruins, right if you're able to get those matchups and winning them in that, you know one-sided manner. So again three-game then we'll see how they do against tougher competition. But you kind of look at just how Frederick is added to that line again, it's not like he needs to be this guy who's knocking guys out or you know, educating guys after the whistle. It's like you just look at how much better his game has gotten over the last couple of years where he sees noticeably stronger on the puck. He's extending ozone shifts looks good on the rush a shot looks a lot lot better. This is dead. Things from that you expect from a guy's development that can mean a difference between, you know, a shorter ozone shift or you know, extending it and winning a battle on the forecheck. It's you know, it's all these little things that up to a guy's development. I can round out a line and so far they've gotten from that fourth line they have and that has been huge and I think it's also very encouraging not just as you know, as you said, you know, the app or online is going to score, you know, they're going to score at some point. Krejci's line. Obviously, maybe you don't know as much but at some point too Brusque will kick into gear same with krejci and somehow, you know, samika looks usually get good grades you so we'll see how that looks long-term the third the third line with coil maybe yeah someday, but but having that find kind of re-establish its identity as can take on other team's top lines I think is very good and very good base to build off of whereas last year, you know, obviously you had the five-on-five month. Scoring issues after the version online but you know you still could get square for online up a big issue is that fourth-line couldn't face other team's top units and wasn't as good at it but this year it seems that page that has changed. And now I think is a very very encouraging sign going forward another interesting very good positive for this team. I was thinking that different directions a positive Nik Richie and I know how dare you say that heaven. I know how dare I say this and I see it on Twitter and I you know, the Knick Richie's Club is a is a you know, I get it he had a bad first impression with the Bruins, you know, he's bigger. He's not fast and stuff about his about how in shape he is people get on them for that. You know, he's a big guy who doesn't always make the hardest hits I get it. I get it gave up getting high and forum and many people like Jim and I liked high and he was fine. I get it. I was not a fan of the trade at the table. but through three games He in theory has been your best five-on-five Ford at least at scoring chances like the guys doing his job. And I think that's all you can ask at the moment. But I mean he's not, you know, Reinventing the wheel in terms of how he's playing and he's doing he's keeping it simple which is what you need to do to get this offense going at 5 and 5 and even strength, you know, it's parking you sell in front of the net box in my grade a ice and looking for tips and rebounds and he also gets that that five-on-five goal though was called back against the the Devils were just getting in front of the net new tipping a shot like it's off. This isn't anything groundbreaking as how he's he's dangling through guys or anything crazy like that. It's just keeping it simple. And if you see more of that from other guys, like debrusk or coil who doesn't have a great danger looks so far at even strength like again, it's what you know, it may not be pretty may not be any highlight-reel goals, but it's what you gotta do to get this offense going. So not going to hop on Ritchie for dead. Doing what his job is in terms of just being that big body down low and influencing the play and getting the front of the goalie and hopefully tip and shots and getting rebounds like he's doing he's doing he has advertised in terms of what they're looking for him to do and you haven't seen that from really a lot of the other Foods on the on the steam sofa it's funny. You're seeing the guys who we didn't expect a lot from Laurel Richie is on who have somewhat specific jobs, you know jobs just if you can it's like kind of like the whole do your job mod for just do what you're doing your job, right and the rest will kind of take care of itself and they are God knows Borel Richie lausanne. And obviously there'd be points this season where Richie is Anna scoring drought drought or you know, maybe is immoral that's a guy past him or you know makes a turn a great job turnover something but given up what we've seen like those are holes that you expected to be in your lineup that are holes right now. No one is sitting here thinking damn when is casting to pull the plug on zebora log. Because he's done. Well, he's been fine. Same with Kevin Miller same with Jeremy. Lausanne Nik Richie Trent Frederic. I mean I Logan Mullen tweeted this I think last game but you know when pastrnak does come back in a lineup cast is gonna have a tough call there. I mean, who do you take out? You know before the season you would say, oh just pull French or golf or oh just take Nick Ritchie out the rich. He's been doing a job. Well Frederick's doing his job. Well, then it comes down to you know, who else is going to take that even take a wagon Jacob York. Are you going to bench debrusk to try to get him going to send Nikka a the one so you have these difficult choices because these guys are doing their jobs and I think that as much as the five-on-five scoring does suck and it's boring to watch as they just cannot generate anything wrong. It is in a sense, you know encouraging to see those bottom of the lineup guys actually doing their job and and being stable and I think that that I will leave it as a good thing off. Connors or anything that the listeners can look forward to from Boston Sports Journal but we're going to have a whole bunch of stuff breaking down. Obviously there's days home opener. I'll do a running Diary of what I'm able to scavenge here at TD Garden as I wait for the game to start but no, we'll have a whole bunch of stuff breaking down the team we dropped the thing on Wednesday break down seven noteworthy stats beyond the obvious stuff right in terms of the scoring drought and the stuff that's been pretty evident starting off the year. So have a whole bunch of stuff over to subscribe over Boston Sports channel cam. You can follow me on Twitter at Connor Ryan on the school in ninety-three go do all that and maybe when you're running Diaries will be I will I will I'll take your Press Box dinner. I'll do that. That's mine. There you go. That's see that's your whole thing. You should be able to take talk on that. I should that would be now that I'd go viral for that. That's not what I'm Sarah such an automatic Viral Song. It's an easy one. But at any rate, this has been poked the bear episode 27 ivanovski. That's Conor Ryan. You poked their listeners. Enjoy all of the Bruins games and have a great rest of your life.

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Oct 01, 2020 - Hour 2 - Kyrie Irving: The Coach Killer?

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

43:14 min | 8 months ago

Oct 01, 2020 - Hour 2 - Kyrie Irving: The Coach Killer?

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It live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching F s ours. You're listening to. Fox Sports. Radio. Yes indeed is the odd couple. I am Chris He is rob we are coming to you live from the Geiko Fox Sports Radio Studios Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on your car insurance visit GEICO DOT COM for a free rates quote. You can also follow Robin me on social. Media. Rob. Rob Parker one on both twitter instagram, and that's where you can tweet him your TV team show Thursday request I'm Chris Underscore. Bruce Auto on twitter Chris broussard sixty eight on the Graham Robb quickly before we get into this somebody's kyrie irving stuff, the jets play in the night they get Denver. You pick the jets to win the AFC. Tonight eight done I. mean usually aren't thing around or this is their season, my hits all you can really been you got if you can't be Denver at home and Denver's been they didn't. They just switched to change their quarterback I ask other third Stringer Ripley I mean if you can't win this game kristen I, I don't know what game you're GonNa win so. Believe it or not I put money down on the jets vacancy today. Did you. Favorite I even see the line I think it's a what is it now they should be There they're not favored at home. Yeah. But I think it's minus one you know. Okay. Okay. Numbers getting on right think that that's the line but Yeah. I mean, I'm not that excited about that game or you. Know no I you know what's interesting I don't know if you saw the quote by Juju Smith Schuster obviously receiver for the steelers he said if A. If. Darnold if they if digest on Sam Darnold. We'll. Take. Saying to replace Rothlisburger, but I gotta be honest if Darnell Whitson Pittsburgh, whenever while is burgers done. I actually think he'd be good there. But you know what it's like to me. It's like. Jerry Golf Chris, do you remember watching him in his first year? Yup True I. thought he couldn't play. Didn't you? I thought? He was a bus everybody was saying he was a bust and then all of a sudden they got the right. Coach in pieces around him and he turned to the Super Bowl I know they didn't win but he took him to the Super Bowl and Chris if I remember correctly. They rammed that like the fifth best offense in the history the NFL. Was a light show a my right Yup I one hundred percent. So you gotta be careful. Is it that he can't play? Adam Gays Chris never should've gotten job he's in a bad spot. So don't know if they can't win that game I. Think they'll go in sixteen was long yes. If they can't win with night sees yes, I can't see again unless they fired gays. By what they might now they're saying they're saying they won't. But yeah, it doesn't make I. I'll be honest. Obviously his time he's going to be short new. York. But I don't know how much firing him right now not with dad accomplishes. Sometimes you just gotTa get rid of it Chris like like they want. Lashing. They won seven of their last nine last year. How do you know how he's in? Pat Seems taken them light. You know. I mean Y- I, I took this hard to season a little a little more than took the second half but still seven out of nine shocking considering how poorly they played early I I don't know I just I. Well, let's get into Let's get into this Kyrie Irving now rob this is This is stunning. Are we going to sound Cari Kevin Durant new podcast? Actually the first episode of the PODCAST HERE'S KYW RE on Steve Nash and head coach the head coach. We don't need to comment and put their coaching philosophy on everything that we're doing and change up the wheel and you guys aren't doing this and we start running on the first day of practice is like no. I don't really see US having at. coast. Katie can be a head coach the head coach, John could do a one day it could be it can be is a collaborative effort I think on our part. Sites. I mean look I've defended Kyri we both have rob I no problem with the stuff he was saying during a Lot. Down and he was he was right. Yeah I give I. Recreate it for that and I will say this. I. Give Him Credit for speaking his mind and what he said about you know we'll get to that later what he said about Lebron and taking the lash out and all that. But come on. Kamo. Every thing? Everything needs a leader. Robin I this is our show. Right. But we have to answer to somebody not dictators. But. We still you answer to somebody. What a minute Scott? Shapiro online one hello. I'm telling you, rob. If I'm Steve Nash. And I hear that. I mean come on we don't need a coach to come in and put his philosophy. Oh, that's exactly what you need. That's what Steve Kerr did. That's what Phil Jackson with the. and Michael Jordan that's what Pat Riley is always done. That's what Gregg Popovich does. That's were Philidelphia's looking for Doc rivers to do what's I'll be any and everything that we're doing to try to change up the wheel. What is the wheel? Play twenty games last year covered the rest never play with these guys what you don't have a philosophy yet. You don't have a wheel yet. You need a day I. mean this is this sounds like we about to. We at the Y. and we we bought to run against brothers from across town. I rob look they are going to be. I even say rob by far. The most talented team in the eastern. conference. But in that goes, obviously, they got the two superstars in K. D. and Kyrie, and they're gonNA have really good role players and even you know a Care Sliver Spencer Dinwiddie, those guys can score the ball. But you, it takes more than talent to win. Big. And I. This is I don't like this philosophy. And Katie. Obviously, an all time great player and I mean, all time fifth top did he signed on on? It's not just. Not a leader. A He did sign off. Kyrie's a stronger personality I mean he clearly signed off on saw he's he's just said. When he bought a Jock Vaughn right was the into her. Like. Right away jock bond could do that he. Difference Between Steve Nash John Von. There's no difference between the play and I get it and we had james polls your last hour up and we know Lebron has some say here and there, and you know, I mean, obviously you you WanNa hear input from your best player particularly if they're a smart basketball player. But you still gotta respect the head coach. And there were times when you know Phil Jackson had to say this is what we're GONNA do. Or parody obviously, this is what we're GONNA do. And I I just think. I I don't like it I don't know where you're at on it. All all along the NBA's always been called. A players late not not a coat right would you agree with me on that? It's NS. Can't ask some input, but I think there's just went a little too far. It's a players league so it always has been. Players have to buy it but I mean. Coaches have to give a little bit. We saw that even with Phil, Jackson and the documentary right when when he let Dennis Rodman, go to Las Vegas tournus say are now not Chris he made a special anybody else of you're Joe Blow on the bench you would have been released okay. That want to go to Vegas am I right now. You're right you're so so Sessions you make concessions. 'cause you know how good people are on how hard unfortunately there are not that many people. Despite the three hundred and thirty million people in the United States Chris who are walking around good enough to play in the NBA I know it sounds crazy. 'cause there's only four hundred jobs. Would you do? You know what I mean? Right so these guys have a lot of power I i. just think this is again. More talk than anything I just think that this is where. The kids are today. outside the box always thinking about doing something and now I'm I'm I'm reaching here. So I'm telling you ahead of time. We always had vaccinations. We're not taking any vaccinations even if it's going to stop to corona fibers nobody sticking me. Do you know what I mean. Chris like this is where this is where we are. No, it sounds crazy. But this is where we are in this world and I think. You have more independent thinkers more people who don't WanNA conform more people who don't WanNa. Follow. Authority made about that. I just think that's I. Really believe that that's where we are right I didn't say that I did not say. Numbers, agendas according to some people but in my right about what what but am I right about just the mindset of. The kids today. So here's this I want this fit in. But. Is this a good healthy mentality of course, not our ball team, of course not but again. Is it about If those guys come on accorded perform now Chris Fate Ball. Here's. Here's the issue. Okay If you're totally disrespectful Steve Nash tells. A player to go in or come out or whatever, and this is during the game and they say I'm not coming out you know what I mean or or something of that ill then you got a problem. Because ultimately, you're right. There's gotta be somebody to drive the ship in the huddle. had. That conversation this is what we're trying to do and and you know this everybody's not always on board. We saw Scotty Chris, Horton Waclaw, run the Triangle Yup and partner to we know that that's a that's a legend right? Scottie Pippen didn't like the play that Phil Jackson. Setup for Toni Kukoc yeah the. Game. Didn't. WanNa game. Yeah. Realize what's the idea but yeah right now. This here's what what? What I'm making I'm not making example I'm just saying the mindset of of some millennials. Yeah. Yeah but. What he's doing is. He's a great player. If he stays healthy, you'll be a hall of Famer. He's what he's putting on himself as you better win. You better win. Because I don't know that that own this was all in him. When he left Cleveland because you don't, we've talked about it a number of times. I've very few small point guard normal size point guards have led teams to championships three Gus Williams in Seattle Isaiah Thomas in Detroit and Steph. Korean. In Golden State. So nobody if Kyri didn't win another championship, nobody was going to be like all. He wasn't that good long as. Good teams and was in the hunt and all that. But when you when you say things like this. You're you're making people going to be like man you better go out and win. And the track record without Lebron isn't really there obviously Boston, he struggled mightily. Went to the game seven at a conference finals the year before when he was hurt and then he comes back, they get trounced and Kyrie didn't play well but I. Got There and and what you call was hurt. Heywood you remember they got off tour believable start immigrant that when I got to Boston I don't know what it was Chris with a seventeen want or. Know when south a good start it was ridiculous and then that was without hayward and then think just turned in Boston but you're right at some point you gotta put up. Yeah. This'll be interesting. I'll tell you what if I'm Steve Nash? And going there and You know do his thing but I I don't like seeing those quotes. If I'm Steve Nash here we go. Do you agree with Kyrie and D. That coaching should be a collaborative effort? Do. You think they can win a title with that mentality. It's your turn away and Kristen Rob the couple eight, seven, seven, ninety, nine, or Fox be sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker Weekdays at seven PM Eastern Four PM Pacific on Fox, sports radio, and the iheartradio APP. Team. 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All right a seven, ninety, nine or Fox eight, seven, seven, nine, nine, six, sixty, three, sixty, nine, kincaid, and Kyrie win with this Collaborative Effort Philosophy on coaching. What do you think? I, the store with Ron in New York on the odd couple Fox sports radio WHAT'S UP Ron Agreement? Guys thanks for taking my call I'm GonNa hit you with a quote of one of the best to ever do it as far as coaches go and that's bill belichick and he says the greatest ability is availability and they only consistent thing with Kyrie is he's consistently unavailable so if you don't need a Coach you damn short need a trainer. Are they going to allow trainers amid and work with these guys you need to produce consistently, you don't have to win championships -sarily. Produced consistently and it's era of load management when you can't just be available for your team consistently, I don't think he can popoff which statements like this. That's a good come because it's undeniable rob I mean Kyrie's just been banged up a large. Molly pushback is. He played eleven games in college banged up and they drafted him first overall is denying that he's But a lot. No but it's all about availability. He wouldn't have been the first pick in the NBA draft because they know Suri would talent while but he was heard Chris and you still gotTa play at some point does we know what I'm saying? I shouldn't. Kid didn't. If he was hurt in college but you not for he's going to be hurt. You know must've most of his career wall, but he was hurting the college and you and people took it. All I'm saying is you're expecting some. Okay. You you. You buy a tomato and like he was hurt every year Dubai tomato that was bruised, and then when you get home shock that is rotten on the inside you that's a little now come on it wasn't like he played three years in every year he all but he was drafted at eleven games and. They're all right. Then the nest what you have to accept. Danny in Bakersfield. You're on the couple of Fox sports radio. What's up, Danny? A fellas happy Friday. Hey. I was I to answer the question with a question and my question is would would Katie and and Kyri field this way and and you know say what they're saying if. They if they had a coach stepping in that, had you know a bigger background doctors or Gentry or something like that? Would they with the hands name? Quite. View but that that's a great. That's a great question daddy because they're getting a guy's never been a coach at any level and even know right and they could say, well, we know as much as him. We play in the NBA to we've exchanged more than Steve. Nash has in the NBA I'm not saying. He hasn't the Steve Nash never won anything he wants to. Actually. Back Right. So Danny your question is wall take it. It really is and I'll tell you what if your question is actually hitting at some truth? Then and only Kyri K. D. no this then that's going to be a problem. Because it was and I don't think they mitt to disrespect Steve Nash because I really do think they respect him and they like him and they had. You know obviously they signed off on him. But it was disrespectful to Steve Nash. To say I don't really look at it like we have a head coach that's his he's the head coach that's his title. And if one of the Spencer Dinwiddie or cares laverdure Joe Harris or somebody said, I don't really think we have superstars. We all just one team you know nobody's better than anybody else. I might shine one game Kyrie might shine another. Cares might shine another K.. D. Might get his one night. You will be like, why did do we're the stars? And Disrespect. Again I don't think they minute that way, but it was mark in Virginia you're on the odd couple of Fox sports radio was mark. Finally, got through God what over I'm calling. It. How long have you been trying to get through mark? On your other call to go. To Anthony. Davis all that and my God I was I was stunned but walking across the garage. Punk any when you talk about this collaborative effort, I'll tell you Kyrie's got too much time on his hands I try injured again. Of course, he's got a lot. Then, he should be going through the Antonio Brown School self self realization. I'll tell you this is this is maddening when you think about it collaborative effort. Yeah. Having to sit down with bill belichick or the late Vince Lombardi and talk about collaborative I'll say this if you have a collaborative effort and that coaches fired get rid of them hey, mark how long have you been listening to the show? Oh, I've been listening a lot man I got blistering that's one finger from redel already. Dow But took. Over two years, guys. Win Women One quick question more what size do you wish shoe? well, that is my nickname shoe but I got that because I played baseball with white spikes because I love the athletics back in the seventies for anybody remembers that they all. Do you will eleven and a half to twelve depending upon the type of Shoe I. Well, you know what more mean anything by that? No Mark You know what? You are going to be the winner of the first pair of odd couple slides that will be given out. To. Listeners randomly. Chris we got some pairs to give away. woah courtesy of is slide. So you know what? We'll get your information. Thanks for being a loyal God to the show and we do have it's just going to be random, but you have to match the size is we have as. That's the only way we can give them out Chris. Oh you know. We he's got a couple of teacups tea. because. These pay and The good though yours Yes, I can't wait I need some slides to all right. Here we go. We got our man Greg Jennings coming up next but first be sure to catch live additions of the odd couple with Chris Broussard. Then Rob Parker Weekdays at seven PM Eastern Four. PM Pacific on Fox sports radio and the iheartradio APP. He got muscles. He's a super bowl champion Fox NFL analyst friend of the show. And arising bodybuilder. Are Man Greg. What's? Jamie. was going on fellow how you going? Excellent excellent. Good. Good. I want to jump in here. Real quick right away. and. Ask You about the saints and drew brees. How big of the game is this Greg? For the saints. Who are one and two haven't really looked at good Anita has drew brees unless he's throwing the ball four yards at a time. Are you concerned about drew brees and and the saints? Of course, of course, I am concerned about your reason saints when you look at them. Defensively is where they're hanging their hat. That's what's keeping them in in these games and offensively you lose Michael. Thomas. Even though you have other pieces. Drew brees has to now carry more of the weight and he has been unable to do that thus far what we've seen in so it only it only concern only gets. A little higher. Because without Michael Thomas is like, okay drew okay drew. What are you going to do you going to elevate your level of play and elevate the guys around you or is that no more and in what I believe is that drew brees has has gone on like we've that we've passed that point in his career is this a good team it is but I don't think drew brees is at the point is career where he can bear that type of a load. Greg you obviously played with Air Rogers one of the greatest ever football. So If anyone not going to be an all of what Pat Mahomes is doing, it would be somebody like you. But when you see what he's doing I know it's early in his career and he got a long way to go before he can be historic. But can you kind of put what you see in the context of history is is this something special or is he just is a great quarterback at this point in time? I'M GONNA. Be Honest guy he's just he's he's an everyday standard quarterback guys. What are we making the big? No. Let me tell you that I am in awe of what he's doing. Because, I know I. Know How? Show you have to be to do the things that he's doing like I've seen it. I've lived it, but he is taking it to another notch another level and I think what's what's so cool about what Patrick Mahomes is doing is. Every everyone in that locker room has nothing but glowing things to say about him. And he goes about his business as if. I just threw three touchdown passes a couple of weeks, and it's I mean but the team is great. You know he's just that type of likeable guy. So you have to route and enjoy in just I don't even have to compare them to other guys. Because we do that all the time he he's he's right now in the league is known to be. Let me ask you. All about the NFL and obviously. Covert nineteen got positive tests. Game has been postponed to later in the year. What are the issues I have with the NFL? was them not testing people on Game Day they test them every day except Game Day. and. Does that make sense of you're putting somebody out if they have it that morning or whatever test positive, and then you're exposing them to everybody else why wouldn't you test every day to make sure that somebody who does have it is out there with everybody else that that's I'm still surprised by that. Well, we're all you gotTA look at it. I it. They're already going to the extremes. Wish is necessary to test these guys almost on a daily in the one day that you want guys is just focused on the game. They're tested before they travel I'm tested before I. Travel Everyone who's going to be at that facility or arena is tested in so. It's a at some point. It's like we we gotta let the players that we we just got to let it happen. You know you can't cover every single corner that you that you. There's a lot of if I got the molly thing is you're testing them six days why? Why not the day of game is all a mask and is one more day. When you come in that morning, you get the the rapid test and then if you don't have to play I, don't I kit that doesn't make sense to me. I think I think one of the one of the things that you would still run into rob is if you have it. that morning let's say, Sunday we they do tax you do have it well now you have to contact trace every individual that you come into contact with. In who's to say that they don't end up having the symptoms a little later or showing we don't know there's so many unknown variables to where it's like. It's I I see where you're coming from but I think the I honestly think the League is done a tremendous job. It was inevitable for guys to contract. Because of them being able to go out there, there is no bubble, but they've tried to create as much protocol in put parameters in place to where bake it at least control. Greg after what Kansas City did. Baltimore Monday night. There's a lot of people talking about the cheese can't be beaten. They could go sixteen and ozone and so forth. Would you as a player? Would you have wanted to go sixteen? Not like I I've kind of been obviously you got every week to win. But I don't know if it's good for team, go into the playoffs S. sixteen. No, and with with all the pressure already is to win a super bowl. I think edges heaps on even more pressure. Do you think they might do it and as a player or former player? Would you have wanted to do that? You know going on like that? I'll answer this question I'll answer do I think they might do it they have a chance they definitely have a chance. They have a test this week obviously with New England anything can happen any single week as a player. Would I WANNA go sixteen to know. Asking me what I WANNA lose in the answer is no. So. Where coming from right? Coming from. I know where you're coming from but but if you're that good, why not just be that good. If we were I was on fifteen in one team and trust me we wanted to go sixteen. No, we didn't care about the pressure of what would have come with going sixteen know in the playoffs that would have taken care of itself but writing in that moment yes, sixteen no give me the presser. We already know we have the pressure because we are unbeaten team late in the season. So any any team that has the opportunity or any player that has a chance they would say yes. I'm. GonNa throw this at you quickly because I know you're basketball fan, you are big time basketball star in Kalamazoo. According to you. But only got to high school. To high schools in Kalamazoo I just want you to. Go. But any quickly lot of people are starting marquee more said today that agony or last night after the game every day was the best player in the world and he knew he was saying that over Lebron. Is there. Any possibility of that because obviously a D. could end up being a finals MVP. Of course. Of course I mean I think on this team in order for the Lakers to win in order for them to have gotten to this point. Anthony Davis has consistently been the x factor. Now, we know we come to know expect what we're going to get from Lebron but when they have shown signs of struggle, it's because Anthony Davis hasn't lived up to what the expectations is and so. I I don't think Lebron, cares about getting the MVP just must've win it when you share that same like mines. Look however we get it. Let's get it. WHOEVER GETS MVP getting your be. All right now is Sr man Greg Jin Greg is doing Iraq. How make sure you have a clothes pin for your nose? Could you doing the Vikings game this week right? They stay. Walking. I'm sorry Greg, who are they? who were they playing? They'll put. Their their planning Texas. That's all those game those who I think that's an interesting. Can you believe how bad their defenses seriously and I know we don't have any time their defenses struggling and I I know for a fact that Mike Mike Zimmer is hating every moment of that because that's a reflection of his side of the ball in any coach that that is offense minded coach or defense of coach they look at the very least they don't want to be the reason their side of the ball or their their side of the ball, the reason that team struggling, and that's not the case with. The the Minnesota Vikings. That's Army Greg Jennings Fox NFL analyst. Thanks a lot brother talk to you next week. Absolutely. Piece more couple coming your way as we get into the new doctor if Philadelphia Heap it live Fox sports radio. Be Sure to catch editions of the odd couple with Chris Broussard then Rob Parker. Weekdays. 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So hit us a song usually Kinda gotta do a variation of it I a few days ago, and we're coming you live from the Guy Go Fox sports radio studios the few days ago Doc rivers was. Basically. fired. By. The LA CLIPPERS. and He's already got a new job. Not Not only a new job. Of Year contract yes. Yes. In Philadelphia obviously, you got to stars and Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid you got Tobias. Hairs is your third guy who played in had great success for doc with the clippers. Look. I I'm just GONNA, keep it real. I was disappointed with the job doc did with the clippers not just this year some people are acting like Paul. George cost him his job or Kawai because he show they choke, they cost him to no no I don't see it that way. I see it as there were several I mean doc was there seven years. and. Never with Major, League talent Chris Paul the Andre Jordan Blake Griffin. A shooter role player Jj, rob they had Kenyon Martin I'll of Kenya was there with doc I think he was but you know they ask several matt bars eight all types of players coming in and out of there, and they never got past the second round. and. So Doc. underachieved there. Now that said. If the choice was between him and Mike Dan Tony, and and that's what the reports are and that's what I was told as well. The dance only would get the job would have got the job if it wasn't doc then I'm sorry I'm taking doc rivers for that particular team. DOC is a better fit than Mike Dan Tony Doc has at least one a championship and he's been good with players that. I really get on his stars now he's going to have to you're you to have to get through embiid and Simmons. Somehow but. Look for what was out there you could have gone tie Lou maybe we'll get the clippers job but I actually think this could be good for Philly. Got To be better than he was with the clippers but this could be good for him. 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Steelers Retro Show: Steelers make no mistake by the lake

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Steelers Retro Show: Steelers make no mistake by the lake

"Support for this. Podcast comes from progressive. What would you do with an extra eight hundred dollars. Buy a plane ticket. Pay down your student loan. Treat yourself to those shoes. You've niang with progressive. You can find out drivers who switch and save save an average of seven hundred ninety six dollars on car insurance get your quote online at progressive dot com and see how much you can be saving national average annual car insurance savings by new customer survey to save with progressive in twenty nineteen pittsburgh steeler fans. Welcome back to the steelers. Retro show from behind the steel curtain dot com. It's that show where tony deaf ito and myself brian. Anthony davis we decide. Hey we've talked so much and we're gonna continue to talk so much about the pittsburgh steelers in this calendar year. Let's go back to a time when they had a great run and we're going to just reminisce so let's hop into that black and go delorean together. Hey tony what's going on. I'm doing fantastic. I can't wait to go back and watch his game and and talk about it with you. It was so fun to watch on youtube last week and and it had everything in. This is a game that i have never seen before and usually we're talking about games. A week could remember. But this is one. You've mentioned before that you remember some highlights of this iconic team. I don't remember much about it. And it's a time when the steelers and another team in the steel city we're playing for championships. It's really exciting. What was going on. Where are we putting our time circuits at well. October seventh nine thousand nine hundred seventy nine in tony. I'm gonna ask you this question. What happened on october. Fift- nine thousand nine hundred seventy nine two days before on a friday night would that the pirates clinching national league pennant did. They swept the cincinnati reds. Three games to non. That's not that's what it was back. Then it was the best of three four. They were going to baltimore to get ready to work on. Winning the world series in. Yeah they did spoiler alert. If you don't know this they won that and that this was such a great time for me tony. Same for you. Oh yeah well. Actually i don't i don't remember that much about that about that world series but but i feel like i do because because i've grown up with it since day. We are family. The the theme song sister sledge theme song from that team had to be a fun time to be in the city. Probably at that time. I was more of a follower of the pirates. I was the steelers now. I was a follower of the steelers but the pirates were on almost every night on our local station. So i was able to watch a lot of games in that whole family thing had me go in the stars stars the i. It was a great time. Also tony you've gotta know this. Not only were the pirates family. The pirates in the steelers were family together. They shared three rivers stadium Steelers came out to batting practice. So chuck tanner said. Hey you guys could come in and hit balls around to like during the playoffs and world series. They would come and do that. And what was really cool. A guy that was injured for the steelers in this very game. We're gonna talk about lynn. Swann was wearing that famous pittsburgh. Pirates ball cap on the sidelines. The entire game with the pinstripes and the the black one with a been strikes. And i think he had a star on there too. Yeah it was great. They steelers for ruining for the pirates world series. More than anybody. They lost the game during the world series to the bengals got blown out and cincinnati and chuck knoll was like. If i don't know any better you thought you guys through that game i. That's how poorly they played that. But they were so preoccupied. I'm not sure why they lost. But during that game against the bengals five game five world series is going on so that's when things that was on their mind absolutely you know so. There weren't a lot of sad is in pittsburgh when it came to their football and baseball team that year but there were sad is on the music chart because that was the number one song for four weeks on this date in history on october. Seventh nineteen seventy-nine robert. John and sad is a song about a man telling his mistress. Hey we can't be together anymore. I'm going back to the the wife tony. A song sad for two women absolutely. It was a good song. I i'm not going to sing it to you so i promise you i won't do that but i i could hear it playing in my head right now. I'm gonna probably go download some robber. John right when we're out of here and the next thing to talk about is hey we could talk about the fact that black beauty was number one at the box office we could but let's talk about this game. This was a time when the steelers had a twelve game. Winning streak snapped the week before against the philadelphia eagles in week. Five to fall to four and one on the season. They were the defending champions but they lost to the eagles in philadelphia place. The could never win and so they had followed up the next week. In cleveland against a browns team that was also four and one and and had a quarterback brian sipe. That could really sling the football. Tony yeah the oilers They weren't you only team from the afc central. That was a that door down like a bum. Phillips said the browns also pretty good team at this time and they were coming for steelers hard and you know what. I'm glad you mentioned the oilers. They were in first place as well. They had one loss as well. And we're taking on the saint louis cardinals at the time of this very game and you know what the cardinals were not a good team back then and houston was heavily favored over them in. That game was going on at the same time. So we'll probably check in on that game at the end of this one but tony. Let's get down to business. This is a game. Like i said. You've got to teams playing an old cleveland municipal stadium the mistake by the lake. It was a windy cold october day. It was a four o'clock game too so it was not the early game. it was the late game. That means it's going to be even cooler for these teams to play windy. You'd never know there's always missed. There's there's some kind of wetness there in cleveland so the afc central battle was going to be a tough one for the steelers but they got something good going for the fact that they had for the first time season their offensive. Line intact. jon. Kolb sam davis mike webster jerry moon mullins and larry brown who. I don't remember too. Much larry brown. I remember watching the eighties. But i didn't realize how big and imposing how great he was and he was there to. This was a very formidable line and it was good to have them back. Because you had franco harris rocky bleier sidney thornton and the rookie greg. Hawthorne trying to run through some holes they need to get the running game going. Could they do it in this game. We will definitely see but this is a fun one to talk about. So let's get started the fifty ninth meeting between the browns and the steelers once again october. Seventh nineteen seventy nine and the newly acquired dino hall. He was set to go ahead and get the kickoff in hall tony. Wasn't he coaching little league football the week before he was the guy off the street. And now he's he's returning punts and kicks against the world champion steelers and he set a record that day when i went back to look at this day in history they mentioned dino hall. They didn't mention the game. But dino hall who had nine kick returns kicker punt returns in one game as a cleveland browns record setting it. So that's really interesting. And he was a pretty good player to he advanced the ball to the browns thirty four after fielding matt bars kickoff matt bahr the rookie from penn state then browns head coach sam rutigliano and offensive coordinator. Jim schaaf ner. They wanted to establish the run early. That's something that don creaky. And john brody in the booth for. Nbc was adamant that they had to do and they mentioned that if you can do this against the steel curtain this formidable foe of a defense than you're going to do very well and they had the running backs to do it now. Greg pruitt was injured. Tony but mike pruitt. No relation. i believe and calvin hill and calvin hill. I think he's famous for siring. A son is isn't that correct. Yeah grant hill pretty good college basketball player in a pretty good. Nba player in seeing seeing kevin hill. This game is so weird for me. Because i'm so used to see him. Shirley seventy s highlights with the cowboys. Yeah i thought it was weird. I didn't remember that he was with the browns. I thought it was really cool. So jack lambert and dennis stirred winston. They sure that that wouldn't happen too early. They had a big hit on pruitt on third down. The ball popped loose dennis winston. Recover just like that at the browns forty so the advantage of the ball. I was not for the browns. It was for the steelers. Tony great tone set to start the game. Wouldn't you think absolutely playing on a road against a division. Rival and in winston was We've talked about in the past. One of the unsung heroes. From that era. Immediately the steelers started to move the chain. When sidney thornton took the hand off from terry bradshaw behind a great block by sam davis for a gain of twenty three yards then on third and one from the seven just like that bradshaw found benny cunningham over the middle to what looked like a fumble or it could have been an incompletion. But it was wrote a touchdown. The steelers lead seven. Nothing just like that. Tony that would have probably been called back in. Today's modern era football it. Yeah ironically enough. It was later on in that year in the afc championship game when one of the biggest reasons why they had eventually have replay in the oilers game. But yeah this looks like it could have been a fumble or at least incomplete pass but bradshaw and counting and had a great chemistry in those days. They did now someone else. That had a great chemistry with his receivers. Was brian sipe so he decided that he was going to try to get the browns back to it. They started with a run to move the chains. But then the here goes site going back to throw and it went into the wind and the browns had punt could not connect. He was looking to strike quickly. He could not then another guy. He found john stallworth right away. And that's terry bradshaw. If you don't know who. I'm talking about for a long pitch and catch for thirty seven yards down to the cleveland. Twenty nine after moving. The chains terry located sidney thornton in the end zone for a ten yard scoring. Toss just like that fourteen. Nothing in favor of the steelers. And they talk about sidney thornton playing behind rocky bleier in franco harris. How great he was he was. Nineteen seventy nine. Yeah they had a lot of injury issues. Steelers did and he He came in place and valuable minutes for them. And and what. I like about this play. The most is bradfo. People forget what a great athlete he was. And how kind of stayed in live in the pocket and then found thornton for that touchdown he really did. And it was a very impressive display by terry as well in fact he started off this game. Eight for eight. He did not throw a lot of yardage. Didn't have to and you'll find out. Why but he was really on in this game and -tarian in that season through a lot of interceptions. There are a lot of turnovers on for the steelers in seventy nine championship season. But not on this day on the third series the browns. They started to move the ball down. The field was with receptions by ozzie. Newsome the hall of famer and calvin hill and they would also log a pass interference with calls on jack lambert and another one on mel blunt. Cleveland did however they got stopped on the twelve they brought in the reliable don croft for a nineteen yard field. Goal was don cockroach reliable on this kick tony. He was not e salad wide right and it was still a fourteen. Nothing good guys yes. It did go wide right. Steelers get the ball back on and one from their own twenty nine. The steelers handed off franco harris to try to advance the chains. They needed to get that first down. They would not get the first down. Because tony franco harris decided to do something else knows iconic place. I was talking about that. I remember from my. Nfl films days in the eighties. He just exploded on the right side line and people forget how fast franko was. I mean he just took off on his play. He went pretty much untouched for to touch on it. It was it was a magnificent run by him. Absolutely was twenty one nothing. How just like that bar would then kickoff too dino hall who would mishandle the pigskin. Tom graves for the steelers recover. That's a name that you don't remember too often. You remember tom graves. Tony not even a little bit. I actually did. I remember tom. He recovered the ball at the steelers. Twelve excuse me at the browns twelve on the second play. Bradshaw went to jim. Smith who was in for an injured lynn. Swann for a twelve yard score. That was in the corner of the end zone. Jim smith was very good. Tony yeah it was. It was shame that he Time with the usfl in the early eighties because he could have been a great replacement for lynn. Swann retired after a few seasons but he was really a good for them in the late seventies early eighties. He was amazing in the usfl. though. I'm absolutely amazing Steelers did not get the extra point matt bahr. He went left with a little too wide into the wind. It was only twenty seven. Nothing only twenty seven. Nothing yeah so dino hall he gets another chance after the gaff and he took it back to the thirty seven yard line not showing any nerves. Here comes brian sipe. He goes deep to calvin hill over dirt winston for a thirty one yard gain to the steelers thirty two then after an eleven yard dash by pruitt. Sipe lofted one. To cleo miller guarded by j p thomas the time but ozzie. Newsome swooped in. He came out of nowhere to make the grab for the browns. It was first and goal at the two and cleveland was going to score. Weren't they tony. It sure looks like at that point. They were set up to get right back into the game at the steelers would say otherwise. What did they say tony. You tell us somebody intercepted that football and it was the great the great and the future hall of famer donnie. Shell but at the end zone. He had a lot of great pick for them in those days and this was another important one. Every time we do a game from the seventies or early eighties donnie. Shell is going nuts in picking off balls. The one we did a few weeks ago with cincinnati bengals in one thousand nine hundred two. He had two interceptions. That guy was everywhere. I'm glad he finally made the hall of fame. Yeah it was a long time coming for him and he gets overlooked a lot from those years but he was a very valuable safety in his stats. Hold up any safety ever. You wanted to mention throughout his. He gets right next to and now a camper sure because the hall of famer absolutely so. Let's go ahead and do this. Let's take a break and we'll be back right after this on the steelers retro. Show stick around my friends. Mcdonald's today high she'll have the quarter pounder with cheese. Extra muster pick half a ten piece chicken mcnuggets into sides of ranch please. The we've done this before meal. Get it at mcdonald's when he get to of your face two six bucks. Limited time only practice and participation may vary single item at regular price four behind the curtain dot com. Name is brian. Anthony davis with tony. We're going back in time to october. Seventh nineteen seventy nine when the steelers were battling the four and one cleveland browns and it was definitely a battle. What at this point tony. It's a whitewash it's twenty seven. Nothing steelers well maybe a black and gold wash absolutely a home at home crowd at the mistake by the they. They had to be stunned. I mean you're feeling pretty good coming into the game first place. You're you're matching the the defending super bowl champions standings and they come right in and just just flow. You're out of the water early on absolutely and something that we didn't mention before because you really don't think about this but if you're picturing this game the steelers were the visiting team. But they were wearing their black and gold. Jerseys wow you had the browns wearing home whites. I never understood that. They did that for a long time. Though the following series the steelers finally look human as the black and gold went three and out and incomes craig colquitt to punt it away. This is where the browns finally got on the board sipe struck quickly with a four play. Sixty one yard drive. That ended with a thirty two yard connection with one reggie rucker. Tony remember reggie rucker as a player but he was the time color analyst for embassy. Remember he always do a lot of steel game especially when they played the bengals. It seem like he was always the never guy in the booth. Yeah he did and he did score. And i remember reggie to. I'm glad you brought that up. The score was twenty seven to seven now and the browns would be looking for more as the steelers went. Three and out again on the very next series. The pittsburgh defense forced a punt. But cleveland had trickery up their sleeves. Tony when punter johnny evans decided to forgo the punt and completed a thirteen yard pass to one ricky feature the former north carolina state quarterback fold the steelers on the play and got site back on the field at the two minute warning to plays and two completions to ozzie. Newsome and the browns now cut the score to twenty seven fourteen with one four. Excuse me one. Forty five left in the half. But the steelers had time left on the clock and they wanted to gain some momentum. Luckily they had larry anderson. He did a lot to help. After a forty two yard kick return gave them good. Starting position larry anderson was great for them. Tony he was good for them Nine hundred seventy nine. He had the forty two yard return in this game and he had some really good return yardage in the super bowl later on in that year they had some good starting position like we said bradshaw came out throwing with completions to stallworth and bleier after thornton. Got the man of steel down to the twenty six yard line. Bradshaw threw three straight incompletions and bar came on for a forty three yard field. Goal attempt into the wind with help from the crossbar purse. Barely good kick made the score thirty two fourteen with eleven seconds left before the half instead of kneeling sipe went for it all on a heave before the half but mike wagner picked it off and both teams went into the locker room for halftime. Tony mike wagner was one of those guys that you're not gonna talk about as a hall of famer but man in the pittsburgh steelers mind. He was so pivotal. In all four of those super bowl years mike wagner was great he was he was so consistent started for ten straight for one of the greatest defenses in the history of the nfl that says a lot about him after the half the steelers. Got the ball back. And we're moving. Well in the run game behind harrison thornton with a third and short near midfield bradshaw launched one deep to a wide open. Jim smith who could not come down with a perfect pass. It was a nice pass. Smith would lay on the turf for a bit but walked off under his own. Power on came craig colquitt. Tony could have really blown it wide. Open here yeah Jim smith paul does poland sweden impression. He dropped pass and then he laid on the ground in apparent pain in his defense. He was miles better than lima sweden. I'll just say that. Of course after a three and out it appeared that the browns would get a gift. When theo bell mishandled the pond but recovered it. Switched up with sidney thornton than tony number. Thirty eight appear to be stopped by ause asia. Remember lyles said it was brown tony so weird to see him. You remember with the broncos and raiders but in between he played a couple of years the browns yes he did but he did not stop sidney thornton for no gain. What happened send. You wouldn't have had a great a great run for twenty seven yards. He did then on the very next play. Harris on a trap play rushed for twenty five yards and his second touchdown of the game. Now thirty seven fourteen. But brian sipe would not be done. He was not ready to concede the game with a good mix of runs and the pass. The browns rallied quickly. Downfield on fourth and three from the fourteen site found calvin hill all alone down. The left sideline for the score. It was now thirty. Seven twenty one steelers with less than five minutes left in the third quarter. What were you thinking with how quick this team was able to strike. Tony brown had very underrated. Offense in those days and brian sipe was very underrated quarterback and he had a lot of weapons around him. And what the defensive rules being relaxed a bit. Thanks to the front roll. It was easier for for a team to get back into the game and the browns. I think took advantage of that. And that they did after a steelers. Three and outside came out slinging again with a huge. Throw down the field ozzie. Newsome newsom was all over the place the pitch and catch of thirty eight yards. Got the browns down to the pittsburgh thirty. The throw into quadruple coverage was perfect. Then they decided to go for it on another fourth in three. This time from the twenty three site called his own number and he came up inches short inches. Tony the steelers got the ball back as quarter three came to an end. But you gotta think the battling. Brian sipe was going to be dangerous in the fourth quarter. Tony that's what i was thinking. Oh absolutely and and the fact that they that they stopped him here was huge. Because you're a third seven twenty one. If they score a touchdown there you're only down by nine points with the whole choir place. That was big if i was watching this game. Live in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine and i very well could have been with my family watching this. 'cause they watched all the games. I would have been really nervous with the way. Brian sipe was playing. He was fantastic. The steelers would then waste no time at the start of the fourth on third and one rocky bleier announced his presence with authority with his longest. Ever run from scrimmage tony what was significant about that run it was. It was a seven yard touchdown by rocking conic. Image or footage. I watched growing up on. Nfl films him. Busting through and go and seventy yards in. He told joe greenie always wanted to have touched down. Where we could feel the the hair sticking out back of his helmet flapping in the wind. And that was his touchdown right there. Well he definitely did so with fourteen zero five left. The steelers were up on the scoreboard. Forty four to twenty one sipe tried to counter and through deep down the field but the ball landed in the waiting arms of the center fielder. Mike wagner there. He is once again for his second. Pick of the game after going. Three and out cocoa came on for a forty five yard punt but paul found the sideline and returned it. Fifty seven yards before being tackled. Well let's just say not really tackle tripped by colquitt and the browns set up shop at the twenty two yard line but the browns the ball over on downs at the eighteen. The steelers didn't have the football long. Though as greg hawthorne the number one pick that year the running back from baylor. He fumbled the ball and it was recovered. By the browns. at the twenty-three instantaneously sipe would strike and he would find who tony tight end. Dave logan for thirty one yard score. Yeah he was a dave. Logan was money for them in this game. It was over mel blunt with eleven. Forty three remaining. The steelers lead lessened to forty four to twenty eight. It would lessen some more as cockroaches. Onside kick bounced off and up man and off of the hands of ricky jones from to ski. The browns had new life after two first down strikes to logan. Logan kata gorgeous thirteen yard pass despite great coverage by mel blunt. All of a sudden. It's now forty four to thirty five tony. And that was brian sites fifth touchdown on the day. There's no one left to play my. Gosh what are you thinking here. I'm thinking her now. I know why they call the one thousand nine hundred. Nine brown's the cardiac kids they had a lot of last-second combined wins. And this looks like it had to makings of another one of those. Yeah i gotta tell you like. I said a couple of minutes ago. I would have been clutching my chest and really worried about brian. Sipe and this team. It seemed to get worse for the steelers. When mishandled kickoff and a clip force the steelers to set up shop at their own six yard line but frank converted a third down and then bradshaw third and seven completed. pass to john stallworth. At the thirty eight as the clock just started to roll roll clock role. And that's what it did after another third down completion this time to benny cunningham. Bradshaw went long. Downfield to john stallworth. For thirty yard. Hell cup the steelers would keep moving behind runs by thornton harris. Anna facemask penalty called on cleveland after thornton. Gut down to the one he was thinking. Maybe i should close this game out. Tony did sydney do that. He certainly did and it was a much needed drive by this very explosive offense and now we know why does guys are in the hall of fame. And now we know why. Sidney thornton such a valuable member for nineteen seventy-nine team because he he put the finishing touches on a On on a fifty one thirty five victory. that wasn't then it'd be that clubs in the beginning. Here's the big thing. They were scoring fast all game long but when they had a slow it down they did. They did it right here. This was a fifteen play. Eight-minute ninety four yard drive to close out this game to not really let the browns back on the field. The browns came back on the field with thirty two seconds left to go but they just handed the ball off. They finally conceded the game. The steelers went to five and one. The browns fell to four in to remember the houston. Oilers we talked about them earlier. They got upset by the st louis. Cardinals they fought for. Pittsburgh is all alone in the afc central. They would end up going to the playoffs. Do not face the browns but face the oilers and go ahead go onto the super bowl and win it once again. Their fourth super bowl of the one thousand nine hundred seventy and it had a lot to do with the domination in this game. Tony and this game was so much fun. to watch i mean and it kind of Illustrative was a microcosm of their seventy nine season. Lot of explosive on offense. The defense was kind of aging but still had a lot of playmakers on it. And there's a lot of sloppy play by by the home team so it was. It was so much fun. And i could go back and watch it again. I i love the fact that it's still on youtube. I love that we have access to these games on the ground. Franko finished the game with a hundred and fifty three yards two. Tv's thornton ninety eight yards one tv bleier. Eighty one yards one. Td hawthorne for russia's for twenty nine yards. He averaged about seven yards per carry. That was an amazing game. Remember at the beginning of the show. We mentioned colds. davis webster. mullins and brown were back. Well they were back big time because those guys don't get the yards without them. Davis was exceptional in this game. Brian sipe was pretty amazing in this game. Two twenty two for forty one three hundred and fifty one yards five keys. He did have the three interceptions. That went to mike. Wagner to and donnie. Shell had one but tony once again. An amazing game to go back to absolutely was and needed to establish themselves an division in. This game helped them do that. They absolutely did so tony. I love going back to watch this game. I'm glad i could share the memories with you. Thanks so much. Thank you. I i i. Can i do these every every every week. These seventy seven games. So it's so fun to go back on much. These legends in these broadcast games for tony daffy. Oh my name is brian. Anthony davis take us away. We don't mind you just got a promise. Us will be back in time.

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4/2/21 - Hour 4 - Hoarding Cameos, Radmus' Rollercoaster Ride, Jerry's Update, MOTD And Toe/Thumb Surgery

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4/2/21 - Hour 4 - Hoarding Cameos, Radmus' Rollercoaster Ride, Jerry's Update, MOTD And Toe/Thumb Surgery

"We've been all over the place this morning. You forgot to put your parking in. You're probably going get nailed because four minutes here. It should be okay. I thought the grace periods where it's out the window. Yeah greece schmidt bunches deficit deficits from what they just put one point nine trillion dollars throw one hundred and fifty billion or so is coming to new york city and the mayor and the governor are fighting over it if i get nabbed today for parking on a feel good friday. This is not going to be friday. Start to feel that. I can tell you that last my own tires by the way. Let's get this right. Johnny middletown johnny. What's happening. Hey guys how are you. Good all right medium density fiberboard. That's mdf are md. I'm yeah ok. Sure is a really good product if you're gonna paint it it's a lot less expensive than hardwood and a lot more stable and the on density fiberboard could use it on your ceiling and use as a wainscoting right exactly. It's really good if you painting it. Otherwise it's just it's basically just dust that they glued together make. But if you use it as wainscoting and have to repaint it because it doesn't crack doesn't move and it's basically very stable product. Exactly it's very stable. Yes you're talking about. How like a hardware guy. When did you become a hardware guy. I know interior like this stuff behind us off right here. This is the cocktail paneling. But it's only one sheet though isn't it. But that's paneling it. It looks like it's not paneling paneling. It's fa- the paneling but but on tv you can't tell i understand over there the bricks over there over your right shoulder in the corner. How hard are those bricks. What are they own. that's phone. that's not real bricks about the steel beams. Would i think those are. Mdf those are. I think that's exactly they're made to look like steel girders right. They are but they're but they're not all illusion. It's all right. It's directing a mystery on top of innate. It's like al dukes al. Dukes is sitting in in an allusion. Everyday he is with his green screen. Everybody thinks he's in the What's your mccalla in. The control room is not right across the glass shooter. Yeah al dukes on the other side of the glass dean and rocky point. What's up dean going guys coming on. What are you got man. I i think. I heard kelley correctly before when she said that marriage marietto rivera charges. Seven hundred fifty dollars for a cameo. I and that's what she said. The guy made a guy made a hundred million plus playing baseball. And he's got a charge. People seven fifty. Four kamuli to be outrageous. Yeah well i mean he wanted to do it. He figured if it's worth my time. I'm going to charge this amount. I mean if he gets. I mean think about it if he does how many a year get paid seven fifty. I just double checked. If you have to charge people are talking about me. Fifty bucks twenty bucks. I mean i mean seven before camera. You're supposed to be there for the people. I s- unbelievable well. I don't know that anybody in marianna position is doing anything for the people. You want my time. You may some took care that church up there in the bronx new rochelle he's got car dealerships. He's working with the people he's a good dude. Man i about this. He has ninety nine reviews on his cameo which means he has at least ninety nine people. I paid seven. Fifty on shore is a lot more than. What is sean. Avery yet paid because my nephew. Got one from sean. Avery said it was awesome. He said sean was great. I'm sure he was good at those things at sean avery. You find that. Al sean avery. Seventy dollars yeah there you go come on. Probably what's phil simms. Show navy knows probably a thousand times more entertaining the mary-anne okay. All right that's good. What about phil simms fills on there on. I think he is on there l. I do not see phil simms on here. He's not on there. Okay but sean. Avery might my my nephew's randy said that he was great. He was awesome. And actually you know. I think sean. When he goes off on one of his rants you may end up getting a five minute cameo from you'd never know what he can get. Wally backman for one hundred bucks. I'm sure that'd be a good one. Sure he'd rip india for one hundred dollars right curse like a crazy person. I mean every time. I go down this cameo wormhole. It's unbelievable to me. What's on here it really is. It's absolutely insane. I'd love to get a sean camry. sean avery. Cameo where you say sean. This roy my buddy mike. He's always blocking the bike lanes. I'm sure he's had a few of those that that definitely would be worth the seventy dollars to hear that. And there's some guys on here. I like baseball players and stuff like retired guys. I don't even don't even remember. Yeah you may not remember them but maybe a grandfather. That's an eightieth birthday. Gets a message from one of his favorite players of all time growing up. You know that that's the kind of thing. This is all about that keith. Moreland remember him it'll i. Do you remember keith. moreland. I do. Okay i now. I'm not sure how to say this name. We're damase rebellious dominance in the bronx dom is that right. Hey what's up guys. It's resumes readiness ago. Thanks thanks for taking my courtroom. Appreciate your guys love what you guys do every morning you help me. Make it through my day while i'm doing deliveries Really appreciate you. What's going on Just calling 'cause you guys were talking about the garbage pickers I think i only talk about this. 'cause i know my mother in law would never hear this. Radio station has been Boogie down bronx. And she's one of those people that love to go through trash and pick up a bunch of stuff up and if you ever want to go to her home she's like one of these crazy hoarders. If you need a iphone charges. She has more than a million ombrella even though they're broken don't matter she has Whatever you need he has it in that house. Man i tell you. She loves the garbage. Pick who the bronx so well. Let me ask you when you say that. She's a hoarder. Are you saying that like in a funny way or is it a one of these situations where you go to the house. You can't even walk from one room to another without having to maneuver your way around a bunch of garbage man From the show she is not there yet but to be beyond me to If it wasn't for her husband. I think she will get there. I've i've thought about calling. Whatever that channel was they would come in. Tlc or discovery or whatever you yes sir It was twenty one time. I'll be quick. One time i went through it was raining outside so a couple of brennan. I need one and i saw that she had a bunch of ones. I literally took about four or five of them and like almost started walking out. The lady almost high like a heart attack and i was a man. This is this is. I mean it's crazy. We laugh about it. But it's like a serious look. It's not meant there was a report yesterday. I believe it was of a woman. Horder in queens. Who was found mummified in her house. Yeah sorry about that but Yeah and she was an emmy a winning. I mean winning designer. Friday redmond who was missing for six months j. Look at this you. i'm not you. I know you're not kidding me. It's just did the conversation we had before she was known to be a hoarder and she was found dead under a pile of garbage in new york city home. That said i know it's very sad. There's no two ways about it. How though was someone throwing garbage on top of her. How was she found underneath the garb. This college point section of queens. And i don't get this. She was found by her sister who had hired a cleaning crew to clean the woman's home and the sister. The cleaners found her unfortunately for she lived alone on tuesday at four fifteen pm. He sits mummified under there. She yes so your questions. I'm going to have to read the article. She was last seen alive. September thirtieth twenty twenty so. They thought that she had disappeared. I guess she had gone somewhere else at heard from her on going to clean out the house you haven't heard from there. She was underneath the garbage. Yes found mummified inner queens home so she probably maybe went to try to find something in there. I don't know underneath the garbage with no one else in there. That's the thing that's i guess. Maybe maybe fell on her. Yeah well anyway thanks man. You hear radames. after that. he's trying to have like laugh about his life and his mother-in-law love you guys. Thanks for getting me through my day. And you'll laid that on him and he was like. Oh wow where doing for trying to roll into easter with some field. Good friday it giving me garbage mummies over there. What are you feeling. Sorry gosh tried to tell you before. Couple hours ago you written this mood today. Given all this all started with you said that the shutdown the final floor. Because the covert. And i said then i knew. You're a boot never did. I think we'd get garbage hoarding mummy. Put here we are friday. Nine fifteen no about this story so readiness broken on relatives. In his mother in law's house and somehow that sparked garbage mami. Let me let me lay this on the audience. I dunno i just saw this was sad by it gets so well now all of us are said. I don't know what to do to pull asana this random is. That's a nice story but this is your future one day. You're looking for an umbrella. The next day you're mummified under a pile of garbage but it's a sickness that i know i'm familiar that i understand. It's a mental illness. Situations not good people hang onto things. This is about extremism. Get once again. You take it to the ends of that might be. Its own cygnus. The worst case scenario sickness. Yeah i mean so boomers now done headless funerals and mummified hoarders as topics. He loved there for a while. Was the refrigerated more trucks. Oh yeah you love those just pointing it out. Ok if you're just joining us. Boomers worried about the final four. Getting shut down by kovin and just gonzaga's away songas and their undefeated season each the morning show with boomer esiason and greg boomer and geo gonzaga's garbage among these great name for it team you go back and get that very moment that all right. So our buddy randomness calls up and he wants to talk about how his mother-in-law's one of these garbage pickers now a lot of. You just heard this but if you missed i have to play it again so just from my perspective so you have an idea of what what i see what i hear so as readiness is talking about this boomer like his face lights up as if someone had had put thought into his head and he quickly turns to his side and starts type it into the computer and then he comes up with this mental thing. There was a report Yesterday i believe it was of a woman order in queens who was found mummified with garbage in her house. Yeah sorry about that but Yeah and she was an emmy a winning. I mean winning designer scampi friday ramos. Six months you hear rhadamanthus. Wow student expected to go that way when he called the show that makes him so happy. You know what the problem is. Honestly tell you honestly what the problem is said. Damn new york post app the problem. You wanna read bad news. You want to find out how screwed up this place is you can find it and fifty different stories every single day. Wow just the new york post is bad news. Man thanks jerry durr the only thing missing it is. It is remarkable. And what am i. Hold back from sending every single one of these things to do so. Because i don't want to scare them away. God wow is eerily similar to als nine one one. Call the operator okay. Oh hey listen. Thank you guys. Make me laugh. Everything's amazing you know. I i use this show to get through my work day. What radames says when he gets the line then you hit them with that at the end. Wow get to know that i didn't. I mean i try to avoid these stories boomer. I do know this woman worked on sesame street. Lawn order and orange is the new black. Yes the mazing is. She went missing this long geez. She was cheers last seen six months ago. Yeah damn okay. Let's go to gary in ridgewood gary. What's happened to wonder what it would be like Jerry and karen stewart would hook up on their honeymoon night. Know i'm talking what. What was the point of. They both sound a little edgy. Oh maybe oh all right. Did you ever wonder gerry's life would be like if you had a penis. I i i think it right now. I'm with you. i don't think i could do it out. Believable i filmed you by the way trying to get through that read just like the last leg. Twenty dollars couldn't get through the read. I'll show with the do you re to boomers point. You realize some of these headlines in this newspaper. Yeah it's crazy. I know maniac caught on video. Dad and mom jealous boyfriend. Allegedly beheads beauty queen. Florida janitor gets twenty years for filming inside girls locker room. Wh what is happening is unreal. I read something in the morning. It was actually out of the city and it was a couple years. Oga trial is happening now. And i read it on the front page of new york post. This morning i had cabinet able to get out of my head all day. It was so horrible. It is brutal this news. I guess that's i mean they get people to read it. We're all reading it. Yeah i guess. Yeah i will say though that i we were going through some of the other headlines the other newspapers i went to newsday and they had more positive stuff. The post is just sort of like their sports. Actually i like their writers but they are then goes to the day. Find the worst stories humanly possible but they are story alibi but the thing about it is they'll go from this horror mummified story to this other woman that showing yourself off in a bikini and everything in between that is true. A lot of stuff there of stuff. Okay jerry you wanna give us one. More update moment day brought to you by flagging anthem. Spring clothing collection visit flag anthem. Dot com yankees. Have an off day. Today they will take on the blue jays tomorrow after a season opening loss. Three two intending as we know. Here's aaron judge did struggle in this game as did pretty much. Everybody up and down. The yankee lineup aside from clint frazier. A couple of hits and gary sanchez had that two run homer. judge knows. didn't get it done quite a few opportunities especially me like i said earlier at the plate. with guys scoring position tie game could have given us the lead or done something and We just didn't execute as for garrett cole. He threw to sanchez. That's always a story line. He says no issues but he knows he made one mistake to oscar hernandez for the most part We did a nice job And just just want that slider back. Yep that was the one that got hit for a home run that tied the game. And then the yankee squandered some opportunities in the blue jays get the rbi double toledo off the tent with the runner at second Here was aaron boone. Tough day for giancarlo stanton in the opener. Zeke concern today was a tough day forum. But no i don't worry about it. He's he's too talented and one of the numbers that we've given in total for this team the top six hitters lemay hugh through or shallow in two for twenty six with twelve strikeouts game two tomorrow afternoon. One o'clock you gotta remember what the back of the baseball card says jerry. Yeah i understand. And i'm sure at the end of the year. It'll look fine but day to day sometimes not so good medicine nationals. Not able to play. Because if kobe issues with the nats they're not gonna play today either. Maybe tomorrow we will see. That's the tentative plan. But who knows francis golan door. It's not tentative anymore. Ten year extension a whopping amount of money here. He was with the media yesterday and blast. I'm humble to be in his organization for the next eleven. Years is an honor is a privilege to wear blue and orange and he's going to be wearing all right. Just remember this. Just remember those comment. Yeah i'm a mabel. Look back on it six or seven years when you guys are still here. Don't your thing and Where you're going because i think that Like shawn watson probably said the same thing when he signed his contract and then literally less than a year later he wanted out. So you're saying next year. We're going to know things i just like. I'm glad he's they signed him. Steve cohen's money. I don't care i want the best that i possibly can have a my team and i'm happy here but if things go south you know as giancarlo stanton has found out and other players that have come here. The signed big contracts have found out for all the different teams. It can get pretty nasty pretty well right. it's true. Let's hope that doesn't with him. Nobody an introductory press conference ever been like. Wow this is great man. I'm happy to be here but this could turn south really quick. You got going to hate my guts. And i'll force a trade but let's hope that doesn't happen But i always think mummies bright. When when i think about guys signing new contracts and i think about those press conferences announcing those contracts they're always positive but how many of those contracts go south garbage from me and henry funeral. Yeah yeah a lot of them do yes. No speaking about the length was window are going to be a met. Now until you're thirty eight years old. What kind of player do you think you'll be when you're eight years old. I mean what is the kind of the concept in your mind of of that far off in the future we have there for you go. Well we will see if he can keep his word. That's for sure The baseball season continues today with a handful of games. You gotta lotta days a lot of series. That are off because of the weather like the orioles and red sox didn't play yesterday because of the rain but they will get their opener in today. Should be a gorgeous day up in boston. Meantime nets blew out the hornets last night. One eleven eighty. This game was over quickly as the nets outscored them. I think it was thirty to eleven in the first quarter. They were up. Forty two sixteen in a blink. Lamarcus aldridge started for the nets and eleven points. Jeff green twenty-one kyrie irving fifteen eleven eight here was altered certainly enjoyed himself. But we have one out there. He's great you know got touches. They sure dead here was irving. He enjoyed what he saw that type of. Iq where you have a big where you down to to slow the game down and able to make good decisions and speaking of decisions. When is the decision on kevin. Durant playing again here was durant giving and update on his status. You back home Great for like own. Be so back. Their teammates him last month. Or so. it's been me working out every day working hard every day. Been playing four on four or so far no issues. The nets have won. Twenty of twenty three. They remain a half game ahead of philly for the top spot in the east coast. The sixers beat the cavaliers last night. One fourteen to ninety four also the heat once they move a half game ahead of the knicks at twenty five and twenty four. The hawks one they pull into a tie with the next twenty four and twenty four and the knicks. play the mavericks coming up tonight From college basketball the story late yesterday morning early afternoon. Roy williams announcing his retirement from north carolina and from texas tech coach is going to texas That was a. I actually see them. Yes so craig. Is chris beard. Who's at all that success is. Texas tech has gone texas. Wow how about that. yeah. I don't know if it's been announced officially as well the report yesterday. Isn't that big money from texas comes rolling and big yano in shock a smarts going to marquette that was so that was strangely texas from marquette basically. He probably felt like he wasn't getting the support that he thought he was going to get. A band saw an opportunity. Marquette marquette got a great basketball program history reputation maybe it's a little bit better for him in the sense that he'll feel more comfortable there but once things start going south at a school like texas or any of the big schools on the power. Five especially down there. You know. they're going to be each others coaches left and right. They're absolutely and if you see. I know you guys are paying too much attention. But have you seen the amount of players entering the transfer portals around the basketball and football by the way half of saint. John's in the transfer portal. Aren't they saw two more. Yeah marcellus erling dinners at his name. Yeah that's not right. I know he went. I think what's going on. Are these guys. They don't have to transfer right. I mean seeing what else is out there for them and what other opportunities plus they all know. They're not gonna lose a year that they'll be able to transfer and to play next year immediately. Right i the whole thing is odd because it's it's been countless kids so i don't know if it's playing time the situation you're in the coaching staff but a lot of kids heading out that is for sure and jim. Calhoun my guy ben. Asher rutgers told me coaching it's division three school he's coaching. jay z. Joe's the just started playing basketball. No it's like a new program. So that's his New career choice at this stage in his life which is awesome. Rangers beat the sabres and overtime. Three two in the goal from mike. Zibanejad the game when her why people are listening eager. Sterkel twenty-one safety five of seven for the rangers now. The islanders continue to win at home as mathew barzal continues to be a one man show on the exchange for matt bars l. cars l. lofted. Calmer off right. They're dealing with call. Marcel pops out feeds mayfield dragged and shoot save may back in front bar said that was part of a five point ninety three goals two assists brendan burke on msg plus. The islanders handled the capital's eight to four fourteen. One and two at home goals from josh bailey. Brock nelson and case every single one of those bars l. Goals was a highlight goal. He's i mean it was unbelievable the ability that he has i mean by the way perrin and strom for the rangers are playing lights out as well. So what a great hockey being played right now in the local area and the devils take on the capital's later tonight and with that we get to moment of the day which is brought to you. By casa migos tequila casa migos tequila brought to you by those who drink it a clearly. What's happened in the last half hour would be but we didn't turn it around that quickly so instead it's kind of where everything started and that was the guy's having a caller dropping some nc double a. Tournament knowledge right on their face. I've noticed that there's one team gonzaga's has been doing. What poland who isn't it gonzaga's now gonzaga gonzaga zag. Okay all right yes thanks. Sorry that's right. It's been doing very well during the entire tournament. And i noticed the trajectory is Their their players are being coached by guys that are pretty good in how they strategize gangs and and i've been looking at the final score each and every single game and i noticed that it seems that they have the possibility of winning the tournament. Based on statistical viewpoint frank overview perspective and then game all year. And if you've watched this on tv you know that we picked gonzaga's to win the songas to win a championship. Okay okay so we're on the same page. All right you rooting for gonzaga. See frank ally it right. Frank did a whole statistical. Deep dive into gonzaga's go and came up with the fact that they're going to win the championship. Just made my day go there. You go guys enjoy your weekend moment of the day and enjoy your customers yes five. Pm might be even earlier today but five pm i will be enjoying a casa migos cocktail about a half an hour. That is true either going to be my rep assad on the rocks maybe the hell on the rocks or maybe it'll make myself a margarita to with blanquita. It's the survey field in the mountains of police go boomer. That is where the best akilah comes from. And that's the place where casa migos goes to make us happy. We love him. I told you my show. L. drag on. That's all they do is drink to kill it. L. rag doll. Yes each the morning. Show with boomer esiason and greg hardy boomer and geo listening back to that moment of the day. Call where the guy said. Gonzaga's i mean. Obviously that was the funniest part at first and it was making me laugh. When he didn't know the name of gonzaga he called him gonzaga's but hearing again. His analysis of the team is the single worst analysis. I've ever heard of any sport team coach players in my life. So i just wanna do. People were laughing through gonzaga's we were the first time and might have missed him breaking down gonzaga's basketball team. Let's listen to this again. And this is the main who called up earlier name was frank from story. Wanted to talk some tournament with us. And this is him breaking down gonzaga basketball. They've been doing very well during the entire tournament and i noticed that the trajectory is Their their players are being coached by guys that are pretty good in how they strategize gangs and and i've been looking at the final score each in single every single game. I noticed that it seems that they have the possibility of winning the tournament. Based on the statistical overview a prank signal overview. I've been looking at their trajectory in the final scores. You know we all over the place every boomer. You're all over the place. I'm not all over the place. The callers take us the places where we expect to go to my no. You're right idea that what was his name. Predominance randomness readiness was going to call in and tell me that. His mother in law was has like a collection of umbrellas that she finds an garbage walk. Yeah yeah that's what. I was thinking i had no idea. Oh god i gotta finish this clementine. I can let it sit here. Mid break started ripping open his clementine. Just sitting here now getting dry. I would choke on something. I was eating it right now. Oh man brian and linden hers brian. what's happening. Hey brian how you doing we got. Tv news no guy work. We're just he's keeping the rug. Yeah so you guys actually do this for a living. Your sanitation workers right so you guys are sanitation workers and you and your partner is picking through the garbage while you're actually doing your job annoying because you've ever talked to him about if you like. Listen this has got stock okay. He doesn't now as he is trying to resell this stuff or is he keeping infirm south order now so he's keeping for himself. Yes wow are you out there. Right now working brian. Yeah oh wow yeah sounds like it. Sounds like you're on the route. Yeah what do you have a. You're listening to us through two phone call with the headphones and thrown on your listen. You everyday bos your blood. Nice kit awesome all right. How long have you been doing like Fifteen years. Wow all right man good. You're talking about throwing kim. Yeah to stop these kids toys out there trucks jeeps kitchen and the grandfather had the kid watches thrown into the into the copper. She's crying and screaming. Watches toys crust. stuff that these guys are exposed to you. Brian go work at thanks. Man appreciate you. They're exposed to all this kind of said. Yeah i know. I mean think about that. You spend your whole day your job your eight hour ten hour twelve. I have a buddies drive a truck and you know. Sometimes they'll work twelve hour days and you know they see all sorts of stuff. Yeah i never thought about. You can't let your kids see all your toys getting but then the garbage man's got to see the big crying and then he's got the emotional attachment kid and the grandfather. Maybe grandpa is trying to make a point. What you up. If you don't behave with thrown your stuff out. i don't know a that'd be. That's a pretty severe burden if he asked me. Heavy emotional burn. I mean that's one hell of a point you know jeeps and cars and everything that he said kitchen. I couldn't imagine thrown out sabrina. Little kitchen call house now. Kathi you kidding that dollhouse by the way so gina is taking that dollhouse. Yes in her own car. Not having the movers take it because she wanted to be perfect. That shouldn't trust the movers right. I'm putting this dollhouse in the back. We're putting it on a blanket. And i'm taking it in my own car just to make sure i'm in charge of it. That's how that's how much attention. That's what i'm talking about thrown out that dollhouse. Never i mean that thing is so elaborate and beautiful and it's personalized with sabrina. Name on edgy sits there every day puts the little rearranges the furniture and everything in there. I mean there's no way. I mean that'd be the first thing she'd ask if it wasn't in the new house she'd be hysterical. You loves that thing so much. That's a great gift is a really good gift. I came to imagine the stuff when it's windy getting her first house. Couple months gaz with it. It'll be an actual house actual house over two years old chevron house just hanging out by goodness she's gonna get a lot of stuff she's going to get a lot of good stuff When he do as the great one. Tim in hillsborough. Hello tim. hey guys what's going on man. How are you today all right all right good. Hey listen have you. Guys ever heard of they go to some transplant. Surgery towed thumb transplant. No i have not him. Yeah like if you happen to be like in a dust up with somebody like boomer always talks about his boy yunos with the funky finger. I got a friend named mac. By the way mac is best friends with my friend. Phil who famously worked Boomer in arm wrestling. but that's different story. Gotcha so the two of them while they're in the marine corps. They're down in key west and they get into a dust up to the bar and mack holds up the pool cue to defend themselves and the dude has the machete takes off the stump. So they're like oh so they go to some local hospital down there in key west and they put the some back on but they just saw it on and it's like fall off so a moral story is. He loses his thumb few years later. Somebody says to him. You know you can get surgery to fix that. Can you live without your big toe so was like yeah you google it right now thumb to toe surgery and check out all the pictures so it's true. They took off his toe the big toe but they grafted onto his son and he now has a thumb. And this guy mac. I believe was the guy who orchestrated the arm wrestling match at the bar. That night we're boomer went. Have by the way. I do have a friend. You know Zeki yes dummy. In junior year he you know gets in a car accident flips a truck and cuts his thumb off then has to go to southside. Hospital may have to reattach the thumb and it work well it. He still has the thumb. But it's like a little like bentham to nub it's like a niblett. Wow so so what. They told the surgeon because you're such such a good football player thumb attached as if it were carrying a football all the us motor tics and the south shore. Long island do crap like this. But this was back in the seventies nineteen seventy eight or seventy seven and so they attached the thumb as if you're carrying the football so he held the football as other hands so they can see. The thumb was on the football so they did that. Attached it that way so you know just just kind of hangs there but i. I don't know that begs the question. What's more important. Your big toe or your thumb. I would think you're as long as you could use. Your big toe azure them. I would think your thumb would-be more important right. Here's something that only. I can see right now. That is just amazing. All right okay. So down in the zoom. They are getting a college basketball. Show prepared all right okay. It's a big deal. Big final four college basketball show. We're leading into it. We're leading into it and as they're preparing this of all the cameras and everything and the mics around. It's just you on this giant screen on the set. Okay and you're sitting here talking about the foam and going through the whole thing. The reattach swallow serbia on that show. No he's not there and somebody right now stare at things but it's only serious people and then you talk about reattaching your buddies thumb and someone using their big toe is now. I've told this story. So eddie you know about it. Oh yeah obviously al knows about it. Oh well maybe this nca show. Maybe i could send them e francs. Ncaa breakdown gonzaga's. I tell you got some coaches on there. That know what they're doing and putting their guys in situations i which is broken down the stats. The fact that they have not lost all year right have been looking at the final scores. Been winning the games so they have a good shot to win. I can't imagine shaken. Somebody's hand and their thumb is their big toe. That would be weird to me like the question questions can you. Could you use it or is it just there to look somewhat normal but think about you know you shake. Somebody's hand the link like thumbs right. Imagine that being a big toe. Yeah that'd be freaking gosh probably take my second toe and replace my middle finger with it. That would make more sense to me. Yeah or thirty. People have the second toes bigger than the big in the big toe. You could not replace your pinky with the baby toe. That i was definitely really is until it's broken and clip the now off of it and then you cut yourself your habent around. Yeah a terrible pig. Nothing worse than that each the morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer and geo.

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Free Agent Frenzy and Story Time

The Clapper Report

1:27:25 hr | 7 months ago

Free Agent Frenzy and Story Time

"Well. With that, you know what time it is. Welcome back another episode of the Clapper report alongside. Dustin. Justin's here I'm. Glad to hear these kinds of here. Kind of choking on what the bubbles there. Yeah I got foaming for a second. But today, we're GONNA do a quick recap of the first day of the free agency market being opened a couple of big things going on. Talk about a little bit of the rumors around the League who's Rumored to go where and. What kind of numbers we could be expecting from that? On top of that, we have a couple of stories to tell a couple of funny ones and. Drawing some inspiration from one of our fellow friends in their podcast. So we'll see you guys in the episode. Hey guys what's going on so welcome back to another episode of this week clap report that sounded like a second intro I didn't mean to. Do. So yeah. Like Damien said. We got some free agents age well, not free agents anymore. We have some signing says talk about from people who were free agents. Now they're on their contracts because that's what free agency is all about. Thank you today was the start a free agent frenzy usually it's July first this week it's our this year. It's fuck in October with the ninth October ninth most random fucking date but that's all right. So. Yeah we've spoken a lot about the goaltending, we did how it's going to be musical chairs essentially. That it is to actually our friend Martin who shout out quite plentifully. He texts me and was like Oh. This it's like the Twenty Nineteen Mba shakeup. And I was like. I think I did see a postive is I said. It's a it's a good thought process. Martin hop on this next week's episode. With the Yes so I. Think I WANNA talk about. One thing I is not here it. No I didn't write it down on their You probably thought was going to go the. Hopi part, but we'll get to that but. Matt. fucking. Murray. Alina on a baby. So Matt Murray traded earlier this week for. So Matt Murray Got Trades Ottawa Senators. From the Pittsburgh Penguins and Ottawa gave the penguins pick fifty two in the draft. And Jonathan Gruden. he's got sixty six points in fifty nine games h l last season. It's a pretty good product. Okay. Yeah. It doesn't have any channels in how now? I think he's nineteen. Sorry that's pretty good hard. That's an IRA trade but but why would Ottawa Want Matt Murray I duNNo. To sign him to a fucking. into four year deal worth six, point two, five, million, six, point two, five, million for four years. For four years. That's pretty insane. I mean. Okay. So Bennington and Murray or two goaltenders the I've always said Got Lucky? With the team and everything got lucky with the team surrounding them. And then started playing like Shit Bennington proved it. He Bennington socks. Agreed Asshole and Matt, Murray wrote. He played good for like two years in a fizzled out but this is a six and a half Nassir six and a quarter million dollars contract. I. I don't get it especially so much on a guy game. I don't get it and everybody's like Oh my God like. Seem flabbergasted I. Am I I honestly don't get it. I don't get it. It's this happened. What maybe like eight hours seven hours ago this happened around one o'clock and I'm well, I feel like a lot of. You you think they're going to be saving money this off season or or trying to you know spend less or spend it on better players or spend it on better players. True. True. But why don't they try to have? I don't know as it started like there's some pretty big signings like contract wise is narrow. Some big signings which honestly I didn't expect I don't know if you did but maybe that's just what the market cost isn't now for goaltenders especially with so many but I feel like with the being so many depressed beat lowered. Right, I would especially 'cause as of now Matt Murray is the highest paid goaltender had signed for Free Agency right now. Oh Yeah. Well, I mean it just started although a couple of big names other than him to go. God Yeah. I'm sorry if you're a matt. Murray fanatic. I'm insanely sorry. Matt Murray Oh my God. Well. I just sent his terrible picture. I'm not. So I'll wait lap terrier. Okay. Oh my God Henrik Lundquist. So King of New York. Going to the dark side. Getting His red light saber is getting into politics. He's getting his Red Light Saber. Dude. and he is going to the Washington capitals. I can't say I didn't see coming no and I was like what the call was all week. For. The man on Broadway to leave and go to his rival go to the capitals and yeah It's crazy. You couldn't. You can write a better story. Imagine his comeback to MSG. Oh. My God. But who knows if there will be fans? That's true. That's true. There probably won't be. And it's only a one year deal. So who knows if he's going to resign with them again? Yeah. Exactly or if he would even play after that. Yeah you know what I mean you you could expect them to probably. Probably retire after next season I don't know especially if the cup, Cup. They're really don't WANNA cut though. I mean. I guess we have to wait and see and say they make any other trades or signings. Yeah. But I. Yeah, I don't know. It all depends I mean but he signed a pretty friendly contract I. Think it was only one point five or something like that. Yeah. One year for one point five, one, point five. So that's a good contract. That's a fairly great contract for the capitals to get a to get a veteran guy in there to kind of be the one be. Such a star-studded rookie or not necessarily rookie but second year, right? Yeah I. Think what he play twenty seven games last year. Yeah. So I guess you could still call a rookie. Yeah. Well. Inexperience we'll. We'll say so you're Kinda give him some some pointers hopefully probably learned a lot from Hopi Yeah you get a guy like long quiz in there as well teaching him and you know kind of showing them the ropes. Yeah. Good looks for them. speaking of hope the where did hope go if Washington lost them while he went to Vancouver British Columbia. Me Yes I was it were. maybe like thirty percent are. Because I had heard it earlier on in the week. Yeah. I had heard rumblings that he was going to be going to Vancouver that he wanted to Vancouver. Apparently, Vancouver in some of the biggest better for him. Okay. And offered him more than the. Contract that he got, which is two years for four point three million. Edmonds offered more. But he chose to come to Vancouver. He said, Vancouver's an exciting city or no I don't I'm not gonNA to close. Being. Citing. and I think it's a good contract. Honestly. Yeah I mean you're not really paying that much for Co yet now he he'll see. Yeah. So you're not paying a lot there and four million on goaltending is realistically not bad at all some other teams and what they look like. Not, the ends yeah. What is it million? Ten point five than Jake Allen I think is around four point five so. You know you got you got other teens paying double may close. Would you know the ducks are paying for two great goaltenders well. Who knows be I mean I guess you could consider him on the downtrend maybe it's just does one year signified downturn I. Think it was like to I. I think as the season prior wasn't even that good as well but. Who knows maybe comes back, he bounces back some the prove with a new team young team. Help. Mentor not really that great defensively. Can Survive in survive like getting Noli shots in on him, and it's like he was struggling with the capitals. Now he's going to Vancouver. Who knows but then again? He's not really gonNA face all starts I would imagine. No I would imagine that signing hope especially to two years Helps ease them go into a starter roll over the course of the next two years maybe. Eventually geared more towards I. Mean because they're gonNA play condemned schedule definitely. GonNa be a lot of backpacks exactly and I think that's a good one two punch in Vancouver with Hopi and Denko Yeah. Yeah. Definitely And yet in that and then who be able to be exposed in the expansion draft. So that's Yeah they said that they're protecting Denko. Okay. So that makes sense. So now you leave Hopi open to be taken. Yeah. Yeah. That's another thing with these contracts. You Might WanNa sign them two years just to give yourself that buffer. Well, you know who didn't sign two years. Jacob Marcham where did you good marksmen go of Vancouver's vazza caliber goaltender. While he was ranked fourth investment. Voting Yeah. You mean Asami that he didn't deserve it. I. Mean I guess he did especially in the playoffs. Really paid attention to Vancouver because realistically throughout the season I don't really watch them too often. He did look good. He did look solid. But Would I consider him top in the league. I don't know. Well you know what? Now I'M GONNA have to agree with you because he's on the lanes Calgary lames. six, years. Six years for six million dollars. six, million dollars a year six, million dollar man for six years. s some terms that he's turning thirty one in January. Thirty seven year old goaltender in Calgary for awhile here. Also. Another point that I didn't remember now I WANNA bring up. Okay Vesna candidate maybe maybe if you WANNA get them that but how long has he really been here? Realistically, he was a backup seasons ago. he started to have a hot flash where he's pretty good sort of having menopause winning considering the best. Pretty good. I don't know I six. Years had six million for a guy who who was majority of backup in ice. He could get a pretty good I don't know I think that's way too overpaid while. So I think the thing is that he had a Vezina caliber season or a vesna like you know a Vesna. what what could you call it I guess I got tip of the hat like Oh acknowledgement. You know like a very good season. But yeah, exactly. Like you said, and that's the thing I remember a few years ago I used to wince every time he was on the ice because he would always let an early goal has always thing he would always leading goal first ten minutes of the game always, and it was such a pain in the ass to watch I hated watching him. Then out of nowhere just. Ended up so I may. Maybe this'll be a good spot for him. Maybe two years three years. Yeah well. Oh, and also a big part of it. He hasn't no move clause in it oh. Yeah. Earlier, so he needs to be protected in the expansion draft. I don't know if the flames have any goal is in their system I don't think they do. How does no trade clauses Mu will work with the knee expansion drafts are are if you have a new clause in, you need to be protected like one hundred percent. He needs to be protected. Wow. That's why like offering those out and that's a big thing that he wanted in Vancouver he wants her a gnome and a no move close while Vancouver was like, no, we don't want to do that. We Damn Goalie the future. Wow. So. I mean for me. I'm glad the Vancouver stayed out of it. Yeah. I mean for that type of money in that that long term. They were way better off. Let him go and then picking up a guy like Hopi. Yeah. I personally for two years. That's only two years years and then, and then at that point, you could take a look at where Dempo really is where he really has developed to, and then you can make that decision are really going to go all in on this kid. How long is this contract will have probably he's got you here one year one year essentially level. Yeah. Okay. So then you do another bridge deal with him probably the more so that way. You could see one more season with him with. Hopi. Maybe hoping go at that point and then fully commit to him for one season and then pay him. Yeah. So it makes sense. It makes sense. It makes a lot. Yeah actually some smart moves Vancouver they're. Also, we'll talk about we'll talk about them a little bit later and Mr To fully gone away All right. Okay. Its Own, Piss me off Ken Talbot who was the Calgary goaltender goes this is a little bit more Meyer but when Minnesota. For three years for three point six, million, I think that's fair. That's a good deal. Cam Talbot he poor guy he's been moved around a lot. Yeah he's been on like at least fourteen that I've known. This is fourteen is on the Rangers he was on the Rangers for in Calgary. Ana Minnesota. So this is at least fourteen maybe and maybe a fifth in there. Yeah. Hopefully, this is his forever home also. So a trade happen this week with Minnesota. On. Did you see it with Nick Benino Yeah so I don't know. I don't I don't like this deal for Minnesota. The it just keeps getting like mediocre veterans and that that no wonder why they're stuck in mediocrity. They pick up Nick Benino and picks thirty, seven seventy in the draft in this past draft that happened this week for Kuhnen. And the hundred overall pick. Luke Kuhn. Is he had thirty one points in sixty five games. This season. That's fucking good in the kids only twenty one. So I don't know what the fuck Minnesota doing bro. Stupid. It really doesn't make sense especially when they lock up a goaltender for a couple of years to kind of seems like they wanNA. Make some type of some type of move and I. let him Walk Gopher veteran. I don't know what they're doing there. But also on the on the talk of. goaltenders ear nose stick with that I'm. Here. Oh, Kobe I'll. That's right. Yeah he just signed. Dovan, he just signed with the stars for another three years. Yeah, it was three years for three and a half million What do you think of the contract It's good I guess point three, three, it's a backup. I think he's still going to be a backup behind bishop. But I mean I. Guess. It's not terrible of a contract now. Maybe. The League has started to trend towards a one. A One B situation. Do see him him more of a one B or a backup? Well I could I guess that bishops obviously getting later kind of injuries I don't know how much it's really gonNA. Affect them going forward. Yeah. Body stuff too I think yes. That's definitely gonNA mess with him in a perfect world. If he comes back perfectly healthy, I, would assume you'd be more Rebecca. It becomes a part where. He's really not doing too good at all at least healthwise I think obviously not going to be situation. I don't know I guess it depends on really what their plan and outlook is for for bishop in his health at least. A Safety Net but is enough. Is that price worth a safety net I don't know especially somebody who's older to what does he thirty five I think thirty, four, thirty, five, Cuban? Yeah. No, he was getting up there in age. So knows I mean he's a good safety net I'll say that button price-wise. We'll see next season. another Ma boy lehner he got his contract finally. Oh. Yeah. I. Completely Forgot about that. Yeah. Later I think it was five years five, million, each so twenty five mil together. Happened before the draft, right? For the draft, it happened a while back. So kinda got lawyers six days ago yeah yeah yeah. Kinda got lost. You know six days ago and yet it's lost as crazy by five contract. Yes. So he's he's a new face of the the goaltending goaltending there in Vegas Yeah. It's GonNa, be Rockin A. Mustard. Jersey. Another five years and Muster Jersey God. Listen. It's Kinda fire. Now it's not it's. By should be set on fire, well, should be set on fire that Vegas Jersey is discussing. I'll stick to that with every ounce of my being it looks like it looks like six graders on a sixth grader six year old Halloween Costume Bro Discussing Perfect for Vegas Dude Are you saying Vegas, her children because I agree. Your dogs ugly stop wasting my time right Marsha so Go suck on your mom titties, right. He was big man on twitter that Herve speaking. Buck Vegas twitter. Really, touch base on that later but people chairman me on twitter now. Getting mad at me. Whatever we'll cover that later. I. Is that if we're the goaltenders right now I guess the ghost hunters. there's quick thing that I want to touch on an update about the whole flurry situation about how Vegas Trade Flurry. they were asking for a first and second along with I fifty percent retained. Yes. So he has seven million I think cap it for two years makes sense why some retaining but for first and second because nobody wants him no for first and second and then retention to wool no so they would they would Offer a first and a second. Oh so oh I'm sorry. No no I'm sorry. They would be offering a second round pick and then half retention for for somebody to take them. No. Take for anybody take Carolina. Was GonNA would they were looking at flurry but then they said, no, no, we want first and a second. I that's where yeah. That's where the whole Interesting to see because you don't want to hold onto his contract, he signed your starter. Angelo, but you also don't want to screw yourself your new organization that. I, I'm. GonNa Imagine organizational debt like down in the minors and stuff like that. Isn't too hot. Yeah. So you're definitely going to want those picks are going to have to build up somewhere and have some type of a farm. 'cause you, I, think they kind of have an older team I. Don't WanNa say like ridiculously old where it's going to be done in like a year or two we'll. They're not like old old that illegal three four years. Know you lose a couple of contracts because the biggest players like thirty? I think? Yeah. So I mean like within five years. A lot of those faces may be gone. Yeah of them. So you'RE GONNA. Want some guys in that farm. So to give up all those picks well, I mean you also have to think though too despite them being new franchise there What's called there win now mode you know I mean what they got the conference finals this year. Last, year in the Senate Cup finals they got to win now if they're gonNA win with this team that they got that. Again they're like a five year team at most especially now 'cause that's leaners. leaners, any made him. So the you live years they trust in them for five years. I think it's the Five Year Plan there in Vegas to at least get one within their probably try to set something up to where they may be to yeah. You have to that contract but for first second to screw your future I, don't think that makes sense. Yeah the only the only thing for me that with like maybe be saving graces that if if it's a first. You're most likely going to be like. High Twenty s you know like twenty, five, twenty, fifth overall. You know well, that's true to. A great pick. Yeah. So you give away the first and then maybe like a conditional second or something like that or like another year give him second down the line. Yes. That way it's not right back back at that I exactly yet trying to spread the picks out outs that way you're not handicapped for one year killer no set. I could see how it works fifty percent tension though that's going to be hard to sell. Yeah. Especially in rely on the heavy but the flat cap I mean that's going to handicap recent game so. We're already feeling it. Yeah. Speaking of that. We'll. Talk about the islanders a a minute. But then they're context contract situation. I look into. Yeah. So. One one more are not one whatever I i. have a very bad contract I don't like. Okay. So earlier in the week. Josh Anderson got traded from Columbus. for Max to Montreal, for Max Domi a third round pick. I don't like the trade immediately. I don't like the trade at all. I do like Josh Anderson. I do like him and I am believer in him that he could be a good third liner maybe even fringe secondliner. Yeah. They give up Max Domi and the third. Montreal are you kidding me? Yeah. I remember when the state came in. You're like what the fuck is a Texan about and I was like do this makes no fucking sense? Well, it makes even less sense quite frankly because. Josh, Anderson side has seven year contract for five point five million. Yeah. Well, you know what and why of the rumor accounts that I file to Davor explaining that like a lot teams had interest in this? Anderson. Dude. Yeah. I mean obviously he was injured last season so. To get him. Yes. So he was injured students seem a lot but everybody believes he is going to be like that big forward or whatever that's going to be like. In, seeing like power forward or what he? What? What do you mean big forward like a like a big body forward or like a big like superstar Ford. Boiling superstar as what 'cause like those mad teams above there was a awarded five teams involved like in conversations for Anderson via. So that's why the price had to be big for the trade up front. and. Then the price they a sign him kind of make sense. But I think that I think that people are like on I mean at least mantra is undervaluing Max Domi Max Domi isn't a bad player at all. He just didn't fit into Montreal system. Well, that's the other thing too me. He's been pretty well, he's been pretty good. The this wasn't as first team right? Where was he before Arizona Arizona. So he wasn't even on a good organization before. Montreal where he doesn't phase. I'm yeah. fucking line maximize isn't a fourth line center yeah. So I guess we'll have to wait and see how he plays out but bro I hope. that. He also resigned I should have mentioned this but he got a two year contract, which is good. That's solid. Yeah. For five point three. Great contract film NGOs worse than the team and yet two years is not a big deal at all Columbus was also clearing space. They Traded Ryan Murray to the devils in exchange for a fifth and Marcus New Devora for Cliff Poo. Cliff? Poo Poo Poo pooh-poohed. I'm sorry that was mean So they're clearing cap space and that makes me wonder. Who are they trying to sign? What Big Name Guy Trying to sign? May? Try. To Sign Taylor Hall or else portraying well. Angelo knows him one many needs talking with the blues again, the next minute. He's not going back the as he's talking again, the next minute he's not going back. So who knows what's up with him but Taylor Hall is allegedly one hundred percent not staying in. Arizona at all, do you blame him? No not at all Obviously have nothing to offer and as you could tell or Schreider so. Who knows what they're planning on doing I? Mean I guess the jammies got a million and a half different things to do so I'll like including starting trade rumors about. than. Larson going in Vancouver for the whole fucking week and blue bawling every single fan in the. freaking. World. Yo. Okay. I'm sorry I gotta say something that got me. So heated this week. Salty can Knox Fan. I only have set that up. soundboard but you know it got me. So he has every fucking three hours some. Quote. Unquote. Insider is saying. Oh L. talks heating up Vancouver. Oh they're almost there. Oh now they're not a part they're going to sleep on it Bro I'm sorry are you fucking kidding me? What are you doing? No, that's really annoying. WHY WOULD VANCOUVER ONE? Oh, we? Oh, I don't. Got Me so heated this whole week and I been so terrified. Because I don't want I didn't want to get him. Yeah. I mean that would be a bad contract because bring up a seven. Yes. A seven year deal. Eight point something million locked in long yeah. No Fuck. That with all the signings he got half the make. Does it make sense lease? Yeah. It doesn't make sense. So yeah, that's my fucking little rant. I just got heated about it but yeah. So Anyhow. Now that that, that's all good a couple of other signings Any other major ones that you don't like. I have one I actually do like, okay. an actually just having like an hour ago the leafs fucking leaves The leafs got day brody from the Calgary flames He's got a four year deal for five million. Here's a free agent, right? Yeah. Free agent I mean it's a good deal. It's pretty good deal actually. I was I kind of thought he'd be overpaid. I think it's That's around where I thought. He thought to four point seven five well typical of Toronto to to really overpay. They spend eleven million on a second line you know center. So you kind of expect them the first line on any other team, but you know, yeah well, you stocks anyway. So that's fine but which we'll get to we will we will Tuned for our top ten, four years five million. That's not bad. It's not a bad deal. It actually So Kudos to you, kyle, do a dubious. I don't do blah. Blah were no home Yeah. So I like that signing though that's the sign that I like There's another one that I like. Well, I mean there's a few smaller contracts. Well, did you see shattenkirk left the lightning went? Fuck Anaheim that stupid. Stupid. Rib Tampa Bay data has Assad Lucent. Shankar. Yeah. Yeah what four million for three years or three point nine whatever as a huge deal But you know chatting curse good player is a good player. Justin Schultz got two years for four million. On the capital's So that boosts the line a little bit for Henrik Lundquist Ilias Samsonov. True. True. The capital are they going to be scary this season again I don't know. I don't know man but. I guess I guess from here. Do you have any other major changes on talk about or you Kinda WanNa move onto our story time here? Or? Not I mean well, and then there was just one more dominic HEBRAIC that new rookie. From Chicago I got little bridge deal two years for three point seven. I think it's a good deal. Yeah. I feel like we're going to see a lot of bridge deals this season it's a really good deal actually. Yeah a lot of small small ones. Let them feel out and wait for the flat cap to go away about like three seasons and. People get paid again. Yeah. I think that I think that basically covers all everything I wanNA talk about free agency agency. Yeah. All right. I guess we'll grab a quick break come back and. I think we do want to talk about the Allens we do want to talk about the really fast and we don't have to spend too much time on that kind of talk about what's going on with them and then we'll move on. We've got a couple of little bit of stories and we'll wrap everything up until next week. Yeah. Sounds good. Cool Brea Brecca's. Yoga's so we are back Two big things happened in the span of US not. Being here I guess you could say like taking taking a break taking me we're on a break so Sorry. So we thought that we lost all of our recording which has happened to us in the past it has we've had record like twice like whole episodes. Hour episodes, hour episodes, and we just had a repeat of that. Yeah. like my voice is being very robotic was just minor was. To. Both of ours I don't know if it's like my computer, the devices that we have if it's the recording platform whatever the allergies. For one reason or another it always gives us this weird errors whereas robotic and I was like, God, do we have to record that all over again which would have been asked but. Restarted. Gave me started. Off Turn it on or off and on. I. Guess. Like to so and then I went to open up our program opening up in all the files are missing. Luckily they do backups and I went to the backups in files were there and they sounded beautiful. Thank fucking God because I would have shot myself. I would've I would have been very upset. Now, I would have been so pissed and I would literally throw my computer out just decided to buy a new one. Of Wow, that's an expensive. Thing yeah. So. Yeah. Another thing even bigger than us, losing our episode believe it or not the I actually think I gasped yeah you. After the D. initial scare. Thankfully happened to initial scare after the initial scare, another gas papin wasn't to be scared again. But luckily enough it was because the boy Torey Krug. got. Side. Yes he goes son now with Boston. No No. Because Boston sucks. Boston's trash. He signed with the Saint Louis Blues Baby Yeah seven year deal six point five millions heaven bill. Seven years six point five, million that's not a horrendous contract. The worst but for seven years, you kind of locked into wild. And Free Agency that's kind of what happens A crazy crazy Shays Innis. Pretenders Gum Right? Yes. Without a doubt. Not Afford it without. Sounding from Lebron and he said that apparently poor didn't fully make a decision whether or not. He was going to stay in Saint Louis. He was like he was still maybe debating going there like staying. and. So for that they signed Krug. The hesitation there yeah. To be kicking himself in the ASS. All maybe not maybe not I mean what if he goes to? Boston. Do. You think it would be like an easy thing. Basically a trade essentially I. mean what it probably portrayal will probably weren't. One point five million dollars more maybe probably closer to one point five probably be about. Eight. Million of for six seven years, six, seven years a million might be what they want my view what he wants. And in this market. When you're with Boston Boston's trying to win now still wow, might as well. Right might as well try it. Wow. They would yeah. They I mean you know portraying to is an upgraded crew. So. While the s speechless. I know that was crazy. I was perfect timing too. I know I was really mad that it didn't happen in the middle episode because we both had our phones over because we were like looking at a bunch of Shit like Oh yeah. Bunch of the signings that we talk about them but yeah, wild shit doesn't make sense it came Oh, it makes sense but I, feel like Kruger's talk with teams but. For some reason, I felt like Saint Louis was an on there but while. I didn't hear anything about Louis Rumor pages are full. Shit now. I think. So I think I. Believe you now. Anyway. I guess really quickly, we'll touch on. Our islanders and our. Before we move on to our story writing wanted to that. Yeah. Yes. Sure I guess I'll start really quick and I don't WanNa all. There's far too long because there's not much else than I've already said in our previous episodes. The islanders man the New York fucking islanders don't talk Lou Lamoriello. Does not talk there's no rumors. There's no like any inch of like what is going on behind closed doors It sucks. There's. The only thing that I kind of heard that other people are hearing on twitter and everything like that is that they're really focusing on trying to shift that boy chuck contract. Which? No takers going to happen I mean. Who would have? Thought. I it's GonNa be a pretty sweet deal for team that doesn't even really have picked. So I I really don't know what they're. GonNa do retention maybe. If they even want to even get. Into something like that. No. For Real. I hope they could somehow pull it off I feel like if they can unload like boy chuck or maybe a letty contract, just one of them, both of them. Amazing. One of them. Offload one of them. That would open up the possibilities of a bunch of things. Yeah. Greenwich only like six million but they have a point one right now or somewhere somewhere in the eight million range with all the Fania phase off the books. They're going to need all the money they can assign Brazelle. Yemen they're kinda hurting, and honestly the patio contracts is also kind of biting them now. I'm not. GonNa say. I still think that they kind overpaid No. Okay. It was a slight overpayment shirt for third-liner who can realistically be a second liner maybe more more than likely could be a second letter to it's just it in the system that they're. Now it makes sense for to be on that. Third Line. I could I could see what you're saying with the being an overpayment. Sure. Sure. But I I, don't think. I think there's a lot worse contracts on that on that team Oh. Yes. Hurting way. Contract saying just happened. We also benefited a lot this postseason. and seeing them the future I. Think he's GonNa be. A? Staple the team. Yeah. I can see what you're saying though. Making less Matt Murray so. True. True. Not much probably true twenty-five not tuned for two thousand I think. But. In. My lifetime I don't know. But yeah, I mean obviously a guy like my Martin's gone. is a KUNA or somebody else he's gone but. There are phase and they got a sign like all although they did. They did send offers everybody qualifying offers, which is great news. But nothing happened. There's signings. There's no rumors of who they're talking to sign like there's absolutely nothing it sucks and I'm getting chirped. I'm getting into twitter beef stewed. I don't even really like on twitter. I. Don't even really talk about like our podcast much. Yeah but I, finally decided to like because some the tweets seeing about fucking these teams like I think it was you remember remember until you story about Glennon balls. Now I told you the guy. Lenny. Balls Yeah Yeah. I definitely tell you started because I remember your exact reaction was clinic all. I ever like that is one hundred percent what how our conversation went. I. Don't remember the but anyway plenty balls when the Rangers signed. Kevin Rooney, right? Yeah. Absolutely. Nothing trade I mean I've signed signing absolutely nothing doesn't mean anything. He fucking tweets singles Rangers are back period. Rangers. Are, back off of Kevin Rooney signing. So I finally decided which was which was my mistake. Ranger twitter and be like. That's what it takes. Not Trusting Electric. Ranges are back what he didn't even get ten points is a fucking Kevin Rooney even makes him nine points last season the fuck that is, and then I usually know who people are. Rangers. Are Back so I had to get involved, right? Yeah. I think I I looked up because I was at heated about it reading fucking twee he had nine points last season that's all it takes. Not, the number one pick. Now. So. Say our good friend Willy Yes, which we have a story from him. Later don't ship a talks with chip. Guys haven't heard him check him out podcast. It's like us. WELP there life stuff but hilarious. He response my tweet because he always trolls me whenever it comes to sports things you must troll me as much as he can. So Let's let's let's his exact response to me, and this was while he was even at work today it goes rangers have more talent than the islanders ever will. Him what he doesn't even watch hockey. He name you one ranger. He feels Rooney He. Probably needs his Kevin Kevin. Bach, and Rooney. Because he's the fucking light receiver, he's GonNa. Change. The Rangers Organization Kevin Fucking Rooney so This is Kevin Rooney. Kevin fucking. fucking Rooney. So let's get him on the podcast. Tell me Mr don't pay with his little twitter trolls and keep in mind. He's the same kid or same guy who told me that Matt Bars Zale's last name looks like Damn Zarian last name. So he kept calling him matt bars alien the entire postseason. So it's safe to say he hasn't watched one hockey game in his entire life. So he sparked a response from another ranger fan though oh no. So we got Mr Andrew he recorded redact his last name. Redacted. Redacted. I can't wait to see what the offer she for Brazil is a heard. It's going to be absurd and then he started reading here from where to hear it from. fucking. fucking seventy year old father come on. Sources close to the League tell him that the offer she barzel is going to be off the fucking charts. Listen Listen He's not going anywhere now call right now call them out right now Andrew redacted. Needs to call them. At. A number like this dachshund. Let's. Talks to them. You were saying I'm sorry. Barzel is not going anywhere. He is in Newark Islander at least for another two seasons because he's getting a bridge deal is not getting his contract yet or do you have a source close to the League telling sources close to the League Kevin Rooney Right? Kevin. Sources close to the League tell me. Exclusively just me. That I, do not need to worry about them are Barzel, he is going to re sign with the New York Islanders for two year bridge deal, and then into your signed for a lifelong contract how you gotta call you gotTa. Call how much money this season. So the for I'll do the first contract. Yeah. Yeah. Oh no only the yet only. Two years. Two to three range to do that. Sure if you if need be I'm GONNA say too but we could we could we could stretch it. Okay three year contract and most. And it's going to be a seventy million range. It's not gonNA be blockbuster money, but it's going to be money. Yeah. But that's literally the. That's literally consigned. They have to start shifting US contract, which is yes mind-boggling dot I get it. It's only day want a free agency and we'll they've also been moving contracts or teams have been moving contracts since since like a week or something and some of them were moving bono right after the playoffs ended. Streets were happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So people been shifting contracts for a while now. was probably because they don't WanNa take I mean same thing with Vancouver but then at this rate at this rate. You can't let a guy like Brazil walk you can't let your defensive core. Your top lines walk within union thrown a sweetener. Well, that's when the conversation comes like someone like keefer bellows or something like that. But you want him to be a solid winger for you. You can't really get that up. You. Don't really have that much draft picks left. Your traded the Morandi. I. Mean for Fucking Joe where you know where I was just say that wasn't an overpayment but now looking at it looking at his it's like what helmet? It's not like a massive overpayment. That's not what I meant. I meant like it's been like a four five or like four point five, million, you know it could have been like that for like a four year four point five instead of like the six six. Two picks that you got rid of signing the first and second second. Sucks it. But he's a great player so I guess. It's like there's no. Situation Right now where with our face we're just so fox as far as contracts go really need to get rid of that boy chuck somebody needs to take him I know Arizona's looking at fucking get rid of contracts which take him formula are we all? Take a man somebody, and but then also about the offer sheet that this Katie magically wanted to come up with folk. All right. So let's say, let's say the islanders right are going to spend a million on him season they're going to go eight million. At that point. If a team must offer sheet him for at least eight million because they're going to have to do more going to match eight million without idea. So you're looking on like the nine million range I'd say. We're that alone you're going to need to first round picks a second and a third shifted islanders. What team do you think that's GonNa fucking do that wellness. OBFUSCATING The thanks mad face like, Oh, no no team in. Look at it though 'cause the Canadians last year a tried to throw a wrench in Carolina and tried to they offer sheet at auto. For like the way I seven, five, eight, million or whatever it was. I. Could I could see that I could see somebody trying to throw a wrench into the shirt whatever try to handicap them but that's what people might try to do with Tampa but then at that point Fuck. It. You WanNa you WanNa be that Dick all right. Take Him. All right. You're going to have that ten, million, dollar ten, million dollar contract is season. For, members who he's going to be a superstar. Yeah. He was GONNA be the face of the islanders. But like he's still relatively young side is he really worth all that pace so far? Yes. Yeah. Yes. He does. Signed that contract yeah. You must breach deal. Yeah. I'm saying especially with the. About ten million at his peak at its. Peak yes. This season. No. So I- realistically, they would offer him like an eight year contract for ten million I think it would I think it will pay off because what? Then he'd be thirty one end of it. Yeah I I think that he would you know. But then you're also giving up so many picks two first round a second third, and you're also going to be spending ten million on the guy who's not realistically at its peak yet. Granted, you're going to get him for eight years. So the first to whatever is what it is I'm sure if he goes into a team where he can really step into that really big role in that first line. Sure you'll have a really productive season. It's not happening. Yeah. He's staying with the islanders. I. Agree he's not going anywhere. So Andrew from twitter. Andrew Redacted Andrew redacted. It's not fucking happening buddy. All right. Leave me alone. And then he started to you now about other shit about the but. Is What it is I'm actually you know what I had a little bit of fun today although got me a little heated I had a little bit of fun doing it. So I think I'm going to stay on Rangers twitter for a little bit. Too now. Okay. We're. All right. So you guys heard it here. First Damian is admitting that he's a troll on Rangers twitter. A. Look. At, a lot of fun day I've been means getting Cox. Twitter. Like you know we we host this podcast, but I feel like I. You know I'm involved in a couple of the instagram pages, but like as far as like twitter like I'm on the red it but and really being involved in the community talking I I really don't do the weights speaking are you islanders? Okay I'll. Talk. About the fucking. Nuts because I got attacked last night on Fox read it really yeah. So somebody twenty, two hours ago said, would you trade? For. A, L if it meant getting rid of Louis and sutter so Loui Eriksson and Brandon Sutter. I said, it was a poll. I said, no, keep them go. He's the future. The other choices yes. Keep Marquis and get cap space keep marquis. Yeah. So like four, hundred, thirty for yes. Six, hundred, seventy four. No, I voted no. I think I am the top comment however. I said I say, no sutter comes off the books next year and Louis the year after that, we have what seven years left at eight million dollar eighty I don't know if I feel like that contract from Ohio could bite the or. I don't know I feel like that contract from Oliver Ackman Larson could bite the sooner than we think. And someone says. where it I downloaded somebody. Oh. Makes our team better Louis and sutter do not and his contact. His contact is contact is pretty by out friendly in the last couple of years. Senators this guy wrote about it. And I had so many comments attacking me about it and I was like Bro Fuck you guys you were getting absolutely attack broke his elven Oliver Contract? Episode. Dan Talking about is like I get enquiring but like unless they were retaining like forty percent, fifty percent don't. Worth, it at all don't fucking do be screwed for years. Exactly. I don't know but Apparently, they're speaking with Christine of. and they're going to try to give him an offer in the morning. So I hope that. Attentive contract works out they didn't qualify choice stature. Some. Pretty bummed about that but Yes. So Troy stature has gone to fully might potentially walk. Can like he will socks From the rumors and I'm seeing he's signing elsewhere and it's gonNA probably be soon I'll from your rumor pages said don't. Listen. They were wrong on this one. They were wrong on their rights fully tunes fully yeah. Two, four, four contract imagine I would. this is this isn't a PD thirteen podcast. Pants okay. Four four contract. But Yeah so Yeah I. saw. Any any who well I guess we'll find out more about these teams by the next up. So hopefully, hopefully, the islanders have something for me to talk about next week. Yeah except leading. Going offer sheet coats to. Hopefully. It's getting to be ridiculous what he's off the deal that I'm hearing is the biggest deal in the history of deals. Art The. Art. Shell teams are jealous of this term. What a crazy guy Speaking of redacted though we had a story. L. In the past. And the reason why I'm saying this because we to acted redacted because we did tell this story before. And then we had a corruption. So it's all full says one of the the yeah. One of the. Allow one of the two times that we had to rerecord. So all right. So we're going to move over to our little storytime here we're gonNA tell a story, the personal going to an island or game. Is. Island. Is Goes Islanders a wild. It was islander wild this one you went to canucks game later. But yeah. Redacted because we're not gonNA speak his name Kyle. Were in planning on that our friend Kyle. Our Kyle. Came with us in a group. To, go to an? Islander game. Six of us in you, our friend, Ray dray Julian, who are cousins and Kyle Kyle. Do somebody else there no. Socialist us. We all went. We all took the train. The, train from the island come from college call yet has. Yet. That's my for me. New actually really became close close friends. Now, we were close friends, but we weren't like. We weren't like best friends at this was before we started playing xbox together because that's where I feel like we became rely didn't really play xbox too much in college. I was always busy getting. either. Do I was I was altering my mind state. True, true true, and partying and partying. So. We finally get together. We finally go to a game and it's in Barclay Center New York islanders versus the Minnesota Wild. Years ago two years ago. Now you just go. Yeah and. Great Time. Start, off the day if any of you out fans been Barclay Center that PC Richard. Staring at your right up front we'll wait. So we it took us a minute to find each other it did it did okay. Yeah. because. I know I I have been there a few times at Barca, but I've been in the neighborhood if you time. So I was running around I just got off Atlantic Terminal I'm looking around peeping I'm calling you calling Julian. And And then I go you know what? Let's pick up some tollways beforehand. And so you guys are like Oh. Yeah. Yeah. There's there's a there's a Bodega over here. Yeah. WE'RE GONNA go pick it up. So I tried finally got and find it. But I. Still I still I going to one I, think I got a loco in PR tollway. That's my special. and so I met up with the guys and we were maybe a block away. Yeah. From Barclays at at a P. C. Richer's you go right behind there in that little parking lot is a tiny parking lot tiny tiny exposed to very exposed. There really wasn't much hiding, but it was enough cover for us to start. is also enough enough coverage for kids to be smoking enjoying outside true I. Remember that too and I was like I know and like right on or something like that. He said something stupid. Because he was already drunk thing we were drinking on the train I believe the I wasn't that's. I wanted to catch up with you guys keep in mind to this was like an afternoon game. This was like twelve. You guys started drinking around eleven I only during the parking lot. So we were always trying to. His pretty early. and. We were we were chugging tall boys in the parking lot of the PC richards. Yeah. So we were off to a hot start. The second that we're walking through that Maze I. Don't I don't like how fucking arenas always have that like a fucking snake game. fucking. Get it until to alleviate the amount of. Traffic further surrounding area. But so fucking annoying roads it is it is annoying and It doesn't really. But I was faded when I was walking through that I pet IT I. Mean there was a service dog. And I was like excuse me can I pet your dog and she's definitely blind and I was like. I was like can affect your dog and she was like. as long as you don't like stayed with him yet it's okay. You could just put him a little bit so I was like. Thank you so much. Yeah. We were drunk by noon. So we were we were finding our way in it us a minute. Yeah. A minute to get him. We finally get in after playing snake for about twenty minutes. And the game was good I think the honors did eventually win the game. We were pretty hyped dude. Honestly I don't even remember done I. Think they did I think that was a part of the reason why we were so hyped at the end. Yeah. So we game was good. We kept drinking the entire game smell yet. For some fucking Molson Tallboy but we all kept alternate into like. Like it was me kyle kept going drink for drink. Yeah. I really by three? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So we we had a good system going there and We were definitely getting a little loose there at the game. Definitely a fun time though yeah. Afterward, though don't drinking day, you just spent hours watching his game you get a little hungry. I was Oh, I was hungry. So hungry I'm hungry right now I'm at Burger King speaking burgers. Oh we went to shake shack a so I'll islander fans you that shake which also shot too much. Over yes. That's my big thing. It's overpriced. Overpriced for Mediocre Burger Yeah. Mediocre Burger. The shakes are good. But again, not worth seven dollars looking medium. Frodo of twelve will get a frigging from friendly slave hurrell for or for real from like a fucking gasoline store for fuck into ninety nine. Good. But so. We. C only it's literally like one of the only rush there though if you think about it, it's not on this call at a restaurant. I mean, if you walk a couple of blocks, I'm sure you're in the middle of Brooklyn you could find something I've no. Well, there's there's smaller, but there's no change. No change an on the way to the train. Atlantic terminal was literally right across the street from there. So we go in there like every other person places packed to the brim not only found walls but there Minnesota Wild Fan surprisingly. So at this point, we're ordering our food and a party drinking is you have to go to the bathroom probably seven, hundred, million times a night. So, this is win nature call for me and I had to take a break real quick and I ran to the bathroom. When I open that door and You could you could read the energy of the room. There was so much tension and. Take over just to give you the pre while I was in the bathroom story real quick so So Kyle's ordering Kyle when I and I was with Julian and Ray while he was in the bathroom I was I was texting my now girlfriend I was texting her being like, oh, owners one or whatever I was doing. Show. fucked up. You know the usual trunk, Texas and And so all sudden. I look up. See if I'm going yet and Kyle is talking to a wild fan. I go okay. That's pretty chill like what are you know? He's he's making friends. All of a sudden I. Hear Kyle Go. Yeah fuck the wild and I'm like, oh now and so kyle is. How do I put it cows aggressive. Kyle can be aggressive. He can be aggressive but he was Fuck around he's also he's in his drunk and. It's not like any like malice or anything. He's just a wild suck. Yeah Fuck. You Man. This aggressive like he's like best. Do they look at? He's just trying to have a fun time many are but he started poking at the guy. I was like Oh. Yeah. The Wild Fuck and saw Kaha and the guy goes, hey, fuck you man. Up The dial. Do shut the fuck up because I mean he could tell Kyle was drunk and. Whatever you don't want to be bothered by. Somebody Guy. Check. So then the guy's girlfriend comes up and kyle goes yeah your girlfriend's fucking ugly. And so at this point fucking Rae Rae likes the fight. So Ray walks over and. He's Going to do a Raham tation. Was the problem boss. We got an issue here. And I think right here is where I walk out of the bathroom. So, you see these. Justin's tall lanky man. Yeah he's. A bunch of. Ghost bowed reason I. I was like fuck I'm going to have to do. Been What the hell is happening. You see kyle is little face. laughing. But also like yelling so I don't really know what emotion cows feeling at this part, and then you just see like ray getting ready getting stood up and like an rated. As a big boy I mean he's like he's like maybe like five but he's big. He's strong. You know he's a strong guy and Julia was having some Texting Day He's not doing it. All right I don't blame him though I should have done that and then so I'm trying to walk in cut through the crowd because again this place is packed. If you a walk, this was pre. Kovic so people were on top of people back then. If that happened nowadays, dopplers will be shut down anyway. Cutting through. This point like the guys fuck man what the hell, the girlfriends distressed they are escalating. Yeah and Then the staff started yelling like, Hey, come on you know like relax and so you know we me and Damien we're grabbing kyle are like dude shut the fuck up come on it's not the time here can waiver. And he's like he's like, all right yeah. Whatever mad. Yeah. Sure. Eyeball and the rest of the time. I was. I. Was gas station ready the rest of the time because I thought for sure I, do is GonNa come retaliate or something I've fought in a very long time but I was ready for it. Yeah. Better. One garrone grown men all finding in a Shakes was I. Think I was twenty one at the time. So you were I twenty. I was twenty tile was twenty. No Kyle, I think I just turned twenty one birthdays earlier and it was in like March or something. Yeah. So. Yeah. So we were ready to be early twenties kids getting this also like mid thirties. No I'm sorry. He's probably late twenties early disrespect to wild fans. No disrespect to him I'm sure he's a great guy just call wild fans don't suck yeller I. I honestly commended man like the wild fuck in their sock. Wrong. Girlfriends. Played. took. Me Surprised I. Say. This is so funny because like there's things like I. Expect Damian Say I know you expect me to say like some things like we've been around each other enough to know like. What will say or like some kind of? Accent Titas wow. Got To keep you on your toes man. Yeah I'm. I'm unpredictable. Sometimes wow. Really, Tony for Lou. But that's the story of guile almost getting us all into a fight and shake shack after nine hundred Oh God. I almost five hundred fucking sixteen with a rangers fan who was like in his twenty s really. That had like getting between us. It was at a game. beat the wild beat wild rangers. Oh. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. No, the Rangers beat the company started talking to me I was like shut the fuck up. I mean pretty typical. Try with kids. They fight with anybody. They've kids on twitter just tweet something. Well, you know Kevin Ruin that's his name. Right I was thinking I'm thinking of Wayne Rooney Fuck in Manchester United or fucking soccer play football excuse me player. What are the fuck? His name is Wayne. Rooney I. Think Okay. You know the the Bald Pale Guy Yeah? Yeah. What's gone that? Guy's GONNA save the Rangers Organization whenever You think we got time for another quick story. The Ayrshire well. Do you WanNa go into then this quick. Yeah Yeah So. So we'll start with this. On the fly. Let me crack actually open another one another one mid a mid episode. Are you already. Oh more foam faulk. Backpack I know, but it's weird too because these have just been sitting in the fridge and a former play crazy i. think it's just my room the atmosphere near it is pretty hot in here it is hot. Yeah like I can't I keep debating take my hat off. But I don't think that would do you know I'm going to. A hat hair because was a sheriff for Kim. But. On the fly Oh, this is so weird to listen without a Mike without headset. Yeah. These headsets even though they don't do it feels like they don't do much but now they do a. Holy Fuck keeps you focused. Damn that's wild on the fly attended our top ten centers in the League. That possibly. Way What you're note here. Oh Well No. No No. I wanted to tell the story I. It up story all right. I got confused. It's all right. It's all right. We're good. We're GONNA do the story. Yeah. Tell the story I. All right. So we we met a setup ruined I just fucking. Taffy. Rafferty. We're still going to do it anyway. Need to laugh and send a picture of yourself laughing to US lease. At T.. L.. A. P. P. E. R.. Art. Clapper. had. Ship Post I fucking love it. Perfect. BURP into in middle of sentences. That's fucking go. So now, I, we mentioned earlier our good friend Willy Co host now of the the I can't think of it talks Chepachet I honestly forgot it for a second come back with pay now with Alex Wong as his co host. Great podcasts you guys recommend you check it out Listen to even though I don't know who Alex's but great guy he's also an island a fan. So I love talking with him about some how does he think about Kevin Rooney? I didn't get his his take yet but I. Say The fucking Rangers Organization. Anyway, I'm sorry anyway. I will never look at Willie the same. So I also helped record is hot cast on top of ours He comes here we have the whole nice setup so. His last episode, he talks about his time on the football. Team. Our local school. He did he go to our school yet he? So how old is he? He's he's like three years older than me he's. Two years old twenty, four, I, think he's twenty five. Year old I don't know around that age. He Again played football and. If you want to our school, you would know that our football field in where they practice was. Removed from our school goes far away just fucked up considering we actually had a good football team. Field so Far Anyway sorry was far away and there's really no bathrooms and you know these guys are out there all hours sweating dirt. Really gross conditions. He would tell he told a story about how him and all the other football players were just pissed themselves. So I cannot look at it in the same. But. That got me thinking. Time of former football player right now be like guys piss yourself. Yeah. I. Get Joe Online right now. We're mark we get Mark Tom. Who knows probably still pisses on himself probably show tomorrow but that got US thinking about hockey players yeah and so I brought to the question. Yeah I was like Yo do you guys think that has players pissing? So like for real low because I mean, I never I never pissed myself but I honestly think he was dragging i. In his for historian like that's disgusting I have. Football. Player basketball player. Hockey player whatever sport. I'm going to walk through the woods and Piss I'm not going to piss myself. Okay. But wait for way actually this size just thought of what race car drivers like Nascar the fuck do they do they have like a catheter or something? Great. Question y'know I'm actually about to look that up day. May they definitely not the Catholic that's painful. No I know. But but like I guess if you really had a piss with piss on yourself but imagine you win the race and then you're sitting there and pit circle and you're like went ask pants smell like garbage smell the Monja oh so Occasionally. Drivers used diapers occasionally. And switching right after occasionally does not often. But with appear right before the race and they'll use salt tablets to to avoid dehydration subway they don't. But they always have a diaper on just in case. Interesting. That makes sense they were diapers. So every time you see, one of these guys win when these BIG NASCAR win dates on five hundred dollars. You have a guy who possibly piss himself. He's sitting there with his whatever drink he sponsored by chugging. and. So. DO NASCAR drivers urinate while driving unlike movie theater where someone can get up and go to the bathroom NASCAR drivers are stuck inside their cars. The fact of the matter is that if somebody spend as much time in the car, stay do as NASCAR drivers who they will have to go to the bathroom of course anyway I'm sorry I cut you off. That's just so funny I just thought of that. So now a segue into your joke here. It's not going to be funny anymore. Please laugh at us. Yes. So Dame I've wanted to rankings for awhile and we figured that this week we will do top centers league. However, we feel like it would be. Applicable to say, what are the top ten centers that pissed themselves in only? I still think it's funny. That's pretty we still funny. So. But in reality, it's just the top ten centers that we think. We'll have hockey players themselves and they piss themselves right? True. True. So off. Now. They have. Intermissions between periods that they can go to the bathroom. No they have they. Can't go to the bathroom. Sit The fuck down Piss your pants going your diaper. God All right. So. Yeah. Do you want to your list I? Yeah. I'll do my list I before I get started I want to say number one is the only one tide is really truly number one the rest of them are pretty much interchangeable. Policy I know I. I don't WanNa get attacked to heart. I do number one connor mcdavid. Yes number number. One I, guess you WanNa, do it this way? Do you want to do? I'll do my number one you do your number one. We should have done. Well, I mean my number one's the same But so I feel like we should go from number ten. All lead up but I mean number. One's already spoils mcdavid by. That's okay. That's okay and I think it's every he's everybody's nineties anybody in the world so. Dot. com. vadnais McKinnon number one, which isn't true. Doesn't make sense 'cause he had a better season. I guess not even better anyway whatever. Okay. So you want do the number ten and I'll do number at my number ten. Yeah. All right My number ten and this is obviously just because he is who he is. I sit does deserve the money I put map ourselves man. FUCKING IDIOT GONNA hassle out or just said it but Hindu. Based on like future aspect to. ATTENTION TO I put potential into it especially for the number ten pick. Let me know once I got after I got done with the first like six or seven. Then it became like I thing where it could be interchangeable. Yes. I feel like we we both have similar like five six. Yeah, and then not necessarily interchangeable. But like I, kind of put future prospects into and I put bars number ten and again this is in really it's interchangeable he can come over a little bit but I put bars L. I I, think he's one of the top centers on the lake A potential to be within the next few seasons. My number ten I put. Rhino Riley. Okay I. Think he's one of if not the best to a centers in the League incredibly shutdown the in the when they lose the playoffs. Yeah and I shut down every top line guys incredible. But he's also really good offensively. I mean he's a really good character guys who I would love to have him on my team. Rhino Riley's great player. He's probably top ten center for me. He's he's I. Think ten for me. Okay. No I shall say my honorable mention is tomorrow's. Most overpaid. Second. Line Center in the League. Is Tremendous I have through that and they're just the faulk with you. He hurts the leaves organization more than he helps well, anyway. My. Number. Nine. I went with Sebastian Aho. Out of Caroline there I feel like he as far as his team He's like one of the most impactful guys actually. definitely not. The. Most Yeah. So I would say that as far as caring his team and actually being that that. You know that that Stud for the entire organization he he definitely takes the cake there. So I think he's a good nine you definitely move up but for now, I nine is perfect for him. Okay. for me nine Aleksander Barkov. Again, he's he's a great today center. incredible know so pisses himself a lot. Just. I'm sorry that don't quote me on that I. Don't know if he does but but yeah, and you know he's over always talked about being the most underrated star players in the league I think now he's getting over that being underrated and now he's finally no people are seeing what he's worth days. Off He's a really fun player to watch, he's very defensive. Panthers Organization to yeah, he is. He's a great player to watch. He's my number nine. Yeah. No, he's I actually don't have them on my list but kind of. Kind of sad I don't underrated see. Yeah. So Number Eight this guy didn't really play in the postseason, but he did lift the cup. The first guy on Tampa Bay lightning to lift. It was Steven Stamkos put him on my list. Obviously, everything he's done for that organization year in and year out carried them. Most years to where they are. They they took the reins this year but I think he's easily within the conversation of top eight maybe even further for you know senators. Well. The thing for me is I. would he be healthy? If he were healthy all he would do that. He would definitely be for me but Yeah I don't know. Yeah. Big. Question for him I also see a lot of youth in my my ranking. Yeah. Yeah he definitely. Speaking of Youth My number eight is quite the bias. No, I. Don't I honestly don't think. So no allies, Patterson. I think he's one of the most skilled forwards in the league. Puck saleswise defensively, what he's going to be. Listen this kid for twenty one, the season. Or Who's twenty and then twenty one yet dude fucking incredible to wait of forward, right? Yeah. The puck skills are off the charts. This kid can rip a fucking puck like it's insane. Yeah. Speaking of potential before he I, think he's on my list, but he's definitely an honorable mention dude he's going to be a top five, seven, a league. He's going to be like right behind McKinnon honestly I. Think. So I went when he's in his prime yes one hundred percent. Okay Dude. This kid is six to a buck eighty. He can fuck in rip the puck like a hundred, two miles per hour. This guy has such a good shot. He is one of the most exhilarating players watching the league where some of the people ahead of my rankings, they're not some of them might not be as fun to watch. But that's Patterson. So electrifying and I think that his potential plays a part in it my bias plays a part in it and but just his raw skill is well, yes. You know he's definitely in the talks. Yeah. So that's number. Okay Moving on I gonNA have to go with a Guinea Malcolm. not a big Boston fan as you may know, yeah but Curtis. That Boston team, you know you can never count them out especially when guy him. So go the go ahead. With Malkin of Guinea Malkan. Yeah He's a center. No. I know that but I put on my list. We. Use Boston Man Pittsburgh. Oh Shit. Yeah. I'm a clown now matter really get com Yeah. No, you're right. I Yeah Okay just bugged me off for a second. Yeah. Okay. Now you're right. Even there though. Sound, like an idiot but he Now that man. You know. He's on Boston. Boston he's on. Boston. My imaginary land according to Andrew Redacted he's up. He's shipping up to Boston now. You know his his buddy he's buddies on my list to Crosby up there put that team. Is built around them for so long yes. He's a staple to their team. Yeah. I mean I was Oz debating putting on my list. I was probably GONNA put my honorable mention but I want to fuck with you putting Varas. Eleven or twelve for me just because he's only declined because he's getting older though you know what I mean. Okay I can. I can agree next I've Eichel Jack Eichel. He's number seven for me If he was on if he was on a better team, he'll be fucking putting up. Like ninety five points. To another team so I, guess, we'll see it. Looks like it's not staying there. Let's man I don't want buffalo to fold, but if I leaves. There's not much. What do they have other? I Love I player love watching play I've always rooted for him. I think he's a good player I love his competitiveness. I also love the music how he's the GM. 'cause he calls the shots at the ends mad funny. CIA vehicle seven. Okay. I. Haven't met six. It's fair so. Not really much to talk about. But Jack. Eichel He. Is Leaving Buffalo. It's GonNa be exciting to see where he goes next and see what kind of an impact is. there. I think that's going to be the real title for article really holds. Next. I brayden point number six. Point I have point I'm sorry. The way that he I did want them on my list but like I felt like it was like this season that he really made it impact. And The pure roskill on brandon point. The drive to win. And for being so young, I had to put up there I. Think he is better than the previously mentioned centers on my list the brandon points great player points. I mean, we mentioned even recording the podcast then we were watching the game. Brow fuck incredible that one move that he pulled while we were in the middle recording. Yeah. Great player fun to watch. Yeah not. He deserves that spot. I actually didn't put him on mine, but he was definitely to be up there. Next, we actually have tied. Honestly, we have Matthews V on both of ours yeah. Yeah not much to say about Matthew's besides the fact that he's a really great player He's the true I center of throttle. The number. One Guy if he was on Toronto I'd probably love a lot more It just sucks as on Toronto Yeah I do Love Austin Matthews Oh he's a great player even a character to while he's a good guy to your. House or something like that yeah. I've seen I've seen some videos of him like displaying his personality. He's a funny guy. He like he's he's got like a dry voice, but he's like He. Seems like a good guy and I mean I also, honestly like the fact that to like. You know whatever I don't want people do. But like you know he's he's like half Mexican I think it's awesome that he was like the first overall pick being half. Mexican. Then being from Arizona I, think it's fucking sick which also win by field shadow highest drafted black player and I tell history it's fucking awesome to be made right there. That's awesome Showing. A little bit more diversity in sport, which is pretty cool. We also actually have number four the same as well. Try Seidel. You can't talk about a kind of David their number one without talking about dry saddle. Behind him I mean considering he had more points than them this season too. Yes but. So Dry Seidel. ICON slept on him a little bit. I. In the beginning I woke up to them because you're so used to just hearing about mcdavid. mcdavid seem so you Kinda ride not right off but you Kinda like All right. Anybody else on that team. All right whenever he's on that team. kind of the sleeper because he's hidden behind the sheet there because of him, but definitely deserves to be on a top ten list and now without a doubt. Out for on a fee sticks with that team, I don't know how really looks as far as contract works made that something that we should look into maybe for another episode. Yeah Potentially Yeah Fi six that oilers organization him mcdavid become like that top one to Centerman. Innate build a team around those two guys. That's the thing they need to build the team around them and they're out fucking doing it, which is why Watch the hockey fan. Great to watch conducts man. Yeah. Put like. Are you going to be able to keep to big sheriffs in town? Townie rose this big townie big enough for the both of us. Way? Okay. Charles. Charles was you call I I they call them Shero. Shero. Soaking. sheriffs. Okay. This town ain't big enough for the two of US and that's A. Big Town bigger now joe, we need a bigger town a bigger. All right. Then to finish it off I mean we got we got our three of the same. We already said number one is mcdavid Both have McKinnon crosby on yet. I guess they're flipped for us. Yeah. They're flipped. You can put my own like I said besides number one you can essentially move up minus one or two for each guy. Yeah. I got that. So Crosby Conversation ever since he's been in the League, the continue to be for years. He's GonNa be the number one and one of the number. One guys. for me. Yeah. For me he's number three just because he kinda slowed down a little bit. he still has the raw skill, but also this injury history and also If across be honestly, let's just be honest. Luckily frosty he used to be. He's kind of mellowed is gone older. He's still bitch. All right. Well. McKinnon has my second because of how much carries a team and how. He commands plan icy. So Fun to watch. He's definitely one of the more electrifying players if I was going to say what I said about who earlier McKinnon is that amplified by ten so he deserves to be at least top three in the league. Right. Yeah. I think that's it then. Yeah. That wraps up our our top ten Centerman who have piss themselves on the ice. and. I also wraps us up for the rest of this episode. Right we'll really funny it's like Oh we're gonNA, have like a thirty minute episode I know I know. We're looking. At least probably an hour and fifteen. Minute shopping got to do a little bit. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. See guys. Like this episode if you're still listening I, hope you guys are right at radius on apple capital podcast gives five stars for this week. If you are actually writing us tell us. your top ten or. Top Five Centerman. Or something else. I was just GonNa say like, tell us the weather outside at the moment just because they could literally be anything I. It is not save save all your top five or something for our Instagram Post Azru the clapper report T. h. e.. C. L. A. P. P. E. R. R. E. P. O. RT guys got lucky to read today y'all got to spelling bees man oh I'm practicing. Maybe at some point, I'll make nationals L., yeah. But Yeah pose a good episode. No, that was good. That was fun follow us there guys joining on the conversations where we're posting kind of irregularly but at least a couple times a week about current news. So anything you guys want to talk about anything you want us to talk about Emma will make post and we'll start to conversation. That's that's the main goal out of all of this is we want to interact with. A hockey fans old and new get people into the sport and It starts with a conversation especially instagram. Comments so Feel. Free to reach out and Yeah. Yeah sounds good. 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Remembering David Stern

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Remembering David Stern

"There's crispy and then there's crispy try our new and improved Tyson crispy chicken strips crispy just got crispy. Welcome to the nineteen eighty-four. NBA College draft. The Houston Rockets. Select Akeem Olajuwon University. I've used in the well. Attired team allies you Wan. Who started playing basketball just five years ago from Nigeria is now al.? The number one pick happy new year's and welcome to the jump that was of course. David serves very first. NBA draft hasn't filling. In for. Rachel Nichols today. I'm joined by hi. NBA Champion and Co host of the all smoke show matt bars and our ESPN NBA. Insider David McMenamin Coming Coming Up Zion practice today for the Pelicans and told reporters that if it was up to him would've been out there two weeks ago. Zion's debut eminent. We'll discuss that out later. Bob I yesterday news broke the former. NBA Commissioner David Stern who had been hospitalized over the last few weeks after suffering a brain hemorrhage on December number twelve died at seventy seven. Look if you're an NBA fan of any sort. You probably don't need me to detail. The list of accomplishments that happened on stern's watts like during the game globally by the creation Asian Dream Team and helping shepherd the League and really society at large through HIV awareness after the announcement of magic contraction of the virus. There are plenty of excellent the articles written yesterday. That will do a more thorough job than I ever can't hear Noah dissect his missteps like allowing Donald Sterling to remain a part of the NBA despite blatant and repeated the poor behaviors. Many of those same article do that as well rather than one talking about. What made stirs such intriguing and complex character? A man who's beloved by many respected by almost all despite I universally known for his Acerbic Style and the caustic wit that he wasn't shy of unleashing all sorts of targets from employees to media members. Even the owners whom he purported order to work for I wondered how many could walk that tightrope of being abrasive yet affable Being able to mercilessly mall as opponents verbally something that indeed seem to relish the opportunity to do. But you could still be thought of so far. I spoke to several people at work with stern over the years and the response was near unanimous extremely driven and wanted what was best for the NBA and would not sugar coat his messages but also the emotional intelligence to pick up the pieces afterward warriors presidency all rick rick welts who spent seventeen years working alongside stern in the NBA told me coat. Sometimes delivery would be harsh but he would always go back and put an arm around you in quote sounds the VP Mark West. Who is on the Executive Board of the Players Association during the Nineteen Ninety? Eight lockout recalled contentious perhaps even dismissive exchanges with the commissioner and the negotiations boardroom and then being approached by stern years later to discuss how to better prepare players for post playing career life. Dallas Mavericks Mark Cuban. The recipient of a lot of stern tirades a lot more or stern fines told the New York Times quote. You with incredible to me even when he was yelling at me that duality being simultaneously aggressive in carrying combined with his is incredibly sharp. Sense of humor was central to that tightrope walk between Abrasive ineffable. I like to end with a quick example of that sense of humor plate while in London held at adapt knees Brazilian resilient Fusion Restaurant Stern Open with. I'm so pleased to be here at this. Typically British establishment recipes start all right matt how NBA. He plays remember. David Stern I think the pioneer I think someone who took the league in the early eighty s which was rumored to be drug filled in two black and had a vision for it and a lot of people laughed vision but over over the years although we hit some bumps along the way globalized. The game Top players. Here's how to market themselves as brands as well and I think he did a great job for the NBA. So it's you know it's sad. Tomorrows never promised You know obviously condolences bonuses to his family but he'll definitely be missed. I remember I started my career with MBA DOT com before I s Bien and I was an NBA employees in some ways. It was the Hump a holiday Christmas party right Winter Party. And I'm in line to just get the spread and low behold David Stern is in front of me and this is a a cartoon character come to life and he had already spoken to the ground and talks about how the NBA grown. They used to rent out the top floor of a restaurant and it was just a a couple dozen people there now. They had rented out you know a banquet hall and and You know son of a Deli owner and he had never met before for up twenty four years old at the time and he goes out of his way to turn around. And I'm filling my plate. He goes get the beef. It cuts like butter. And this I love that you had that kind of every man side to him but known as a brilliant negotiator brilliant. Yeah it's crazy I think about. You asked me right before it come on there if I ever met him. I said I'm at one time. It was maybe ten seconds longer and ended it with asking. Who the BLEEP? was that no matter how I wanNA know you know. Oh you probably had more dealings than I did. He took a lot of money and that kind of happened. But I you know a few handshakes here and there you know the one time we did have a conversation I think was Going into my final year with Sacramento when he came to Sacramento to see in the new arena and everything and he walked by impacted me on the back and said the bad guy always finds a job in air quotes. I just told me you know I love your heart. Good luck this season so like I said someone that was what was best for the League and what I appreciate about the most. Because I'm similar in that way don't sugarcoat coney thing like I said you may not like what I what I'm GonNa tell you what you're going to respect the most going to give it to Real Annetta David Star gave it to you. I WanNa ask you because you covered the lockout a little bit in and that was a time where there was a lot of contentiousness between stern and the media I was talking about Buddy Eaten Strauss and he felt like a lot of it was certain. Wanted you to come back at him. He was doing that to see if you were going to try and challenge them back and that's what he relished. Did you ever have any of those kind of exchanges with them. I mean certainly he first of all eastern wrote a a wonderful piece about about Stern But you know he would he'd test you And you had to have your facts straight and you know he was willing to push to any boundary had to recall that lockout. He used the term. We're heading towards a nuclear winter that because he was basically saying ah trying to use the media in any capacity could to get the message through the players that if you keep messing around you will not get any paycheck for the remainder of the season now. I was one that was on the side of Labor in in that dispute when I was you know kind of taking my side and reporting and messing around might be might not be the right characterization. But that's what he tried to push forward because he was trying to do his job for his owners. it it's tremendous job that he did you know we talk about the game when he took over I believe NBA revenues as a whole was one hundred fifty some odd million dollars when he left his five billion dollars when that's over the span of thirty years As as far as the global game though when you talk about. There's two things that he did was. He was really instrumental in the creation of Dream Team in two was in one thousand nine hundred nine. He was one of the first outside outside professional sports entity to China and say hey where the NBA. Maybe you guys want to pay attention to us as an international perspective. Let's start there. What do you think is the biggest fingerprints that we can look at right now? I mean I mean the tent. Poles are certainly the the dream team getting behind that when pro athletes had an amateur event and yao-ming coming into the league and and him being proponent and supporter of that but now you press fast forward to today the reigning MVP COMPO- Nigerian descent. Who grew up in in Greece and Luanch? Slovenian is perhaps the most ascendant popular talent that we have that wouldn't occur and of course Dirk Nowitzki retired last year former finals. MVP Tony Parker retired. I mean who's from France and then Germany for dirk all of the the talent has made the league a better place and it's made the leap more profitable. I completely agree the the other thing. I Ah really touched by a lot of people posted on instagram accounts. Twitter accounts hey recipe. She did great things for the game. But I thought Lebron and your old buddy decent Richardson. They both had some different. which was Davis represented? That's my dream. I WANNA go on that stage and shake his hand and When I saw that it was kind of a different Kind of tribute tool in that it was more than just. Hey David Sir guy that made the NBA where it is today but You know more solar. He's symbol of not the finish line but like I made it right. No and I I heard a lot of guys speak to him as father figures. Well you know what I mean like. I said he was someone who was always there. Obviously getting your name calling lottery and shaking. His hand is kind of like A. Yeah I made it. You know what I mean. Now there's a lot of work to do. I mean I know a lot of people resonated in I and could appreciate that but like I said glowing his vision was to grow the game globally and I think it took some time he got there and he obviously left the game in great hands now now with Adam silver but I think that the growth of the game and now showing kids all around the world they actually do have a chance to play in the NBA That's only you know driving driving the fan base up in continuing to drive player salaries up so like I said a hell of a human. We're definitely gonNA miss them and Life Short man. Absolutely all right coming up timberwolves goals rookie Derek cover again though Robin Lopez and things got heated. He said something to is just GonNa Dump Donald. Who Saturday you on our answers right after the break but first the top bar district replant from two thousand three featuring a moist Outta my and being contested status tonight the drought there in those days? Right now standing tall. I was telling you about child. Eagles old oh six ouch. That's third travel of the night. Normally I get on his case for being a complete numskull but tonight. I'm chilly Stephen. What's gotten into you? I know Oh usually I'd be off right now but I gotta tell you. This vivid seats thing has got me completely. Change takes one hundred percent authentic and I got great seats yesterday on a vivid seats at stress-free breath. Wait we put Mayo hotdog. What's the matter with you? The old Stephen Alemanno the maker Miss League. It's a maker Miss League. I have no idea may miss. It's a maker measly. Why was Brandon Ingram so matt Make Sharing Mark at eight twenty two minutes last night this behind the back. Diamond transition transition was the best and the light. They've seen improvement from fools as a point guard. I think what's key. He's a Combo Guard. And that's what is so important in today's NBA NBA. You don't need a guy who can only set people up the can also score. Not Guy could only score also set people up it will allow him to play in any sort of office as he moves for his career. OR MAYBE IT'LL BE IN ORLANDO. Maybe somewhere else I think in today's age you have to be able to do everything from the Gore position and I think I'm just happy. Just kids on the floor. You know tremendous town come out of college. Who knows what happened in Philly early? But I'm glad that he's back out there smiling and having a good time and playing the game he loves so all said all that stuff. Don't worry about the jump. Shot Plead Miss Respect not wolves rookie. Derek Cobra through down Robin Lopez and talked a little snack. Lopez's not having it and follow them all the way down court net Whose side are you taking? I've chased someone off that before into the locker room. One time and got fine heavily for I love the dunk first foremost. But if you're gonNA talk trash to someone like Robin you better be ready ready because I know he loves to wrestle. He probably likes to fight and he's just a big caveman. So you gotta be careful in pick and choose who you're talking to. What was Robbins motivation? Here did you just want to talk trash back to him in his face. I didn't quite get stock. You all the way down the fact that he kept he said something twice. I think yeah I think but I love the dunk. First and foremost Rape Down Robin the quote from his reading list. Of what the bleep did you just say. I don't know what he said right. Make box scores Middle Robinson was a perfect eleven for eleven from the field last night versus the blazers tied the Knicks record for most makes without amiss. They put more respect on Mitterrand's his name. Would we put more respect. Aspect wasn't a nick. Perhaps I do think we look at this knicks roster. Obviously they don't have Kyrie or read but someone will get this job moving forward award and they can look at it not only Mitch Robinson but Knox and Barrett and say maybe. There's something here to work with. I like Robin. He's on that deandre Jordan plan. You know stay in the Eh League and field goal percentage. He dunks everything he blocks everything. He's definitely one of the cornerstones Going forward but I just love his energy You know they're bringing him off the bench now now for that spark and that's definitely what he's given them and I mean eleven for eleven. Okay where you're raising game. Mike Crazy to say that that might be a good job. Miss Yes the dunk contest Kelly oubre and another great duck last night two weeks ago in the don't said he's not more than the in game. Don't go and not interested in the on test match. Should we put more pressure on them to enter the dunk contest. I like this kid man. I like this kid. I like his game. He's he's got a lot of slag if he doesn't want to he doesn't want to but I mean take these game dunks holiday I. It's interesting. He's shown so many versatile parts of his game. He found himself as a score come out in Kansas and then he was become a defensive play first and then you know defensive minded player first and then that we're seeing in punch with With booker over there SEASON WE'RE GONNA end in April April. Anyway you might as well do it. Though cooperation speaking opposed to dunks. Does anyone ended up in these situations more than Aaron being or they got him last night. On this you're supposed to climb the mountain if you get him. It's going to look so impressive because he looks looks like a mound of a person on and you contrast that with some big athletic or smaller athletic guy going over. And it's GonNa make for highlight reels. Instagram likes in respect them going for all these box. You'RE GONNA get dunked on when you go for these blocks but he just gets a little more than average where the blocks though are. We had a little altercation with stability. Oh uh-huh oh look how young he looks at the ball. I think he WANNA show toughness. But he's not gonNA outside me he's Russell. Russell has one of the hands on me. You know they wanNA give me run it back to the the top three most memorable on Air Bane I this game same game just saw Blake Griffin and Twenty Fifteen burs clippers game playoff gusting. Just filthy is that why he grew. The beard is himself from the old highlands number. Do you honestly the twenty eight fifteen eastern conference first round and that same it is Kinda the same dumb coming on again. I Wanna I wanNA see someone. Show me some blocks that he's had the same season number one Joel embiid and the semi needs to go hang out with check this summer learn how to heartfelt because you get nothing way not much. I'm just saying like warning dumped on a lot but I remember the morning block of tumble blocking people. You Block and people and these are all from playoff games too. We're more people are watching. Yeah I respect the fact. He's going for him. But you gotta block some of them something to talk to him all right. Let's get to the Lakers. Who Great early against the Sun's last night but didn't finish finished the game? Strong at the leading by as many as thirty six against Phoenix Lick allowed the game to get as close to seven points in the fourth quarter ultimately winning by ten they was the tone of the Lakers encouraged or discouraged after that game pretty discouraged They wanted to start a new for two thousand twenty like we all do with resolutions and Frank Vogel Legal Challenge them to not only win but to dominate this stretch of games. They have coming up and they showed it for a little bit. But then you're going to be discouraged by not only the the fact that the players there's lead up and there's some human nature they're thirty six down to seven maybe human nature you say thirty six thousand fifteen or something like that but also discouraged by Frank Volvos rotation he. He Ran Lebron in a d long minutes in the third quarter hoping the rest of them the entire right worth they did have a twenty two point lead at that point But his bench unit had already already given some confidence to Phoenix starters. They couldn't keep it going and then they had to bring back with Ron and to me that was a little shortsighted by Frank. Don't run them so hello such long minutes in the third quarter so then it's not as dramatic when you had to play in the mix tremendous and a for this happens I mean they they let their foot off the gas at it happens. Happens to the best of them Like I said the fact that they got the lead they got the way they were playing when they were clicking looking very impressive I I like the fact that Avery Bradley is starting to come along. I think he's going to be a key piece. He's down the stretch Hearing the Darren Collison wants to come back I think he would be a great fit for their second unit. Someone get his own shot someone who plays both sides of the ball someone and get other people involved that second. The unions a little bit of help. But I'm not discouraged all happen. These are the dog days a season. Pf I understand now until all-star break there's GonNa be some ugly losses are going to be some big comeback and you know until you get to all star breaking post. all-star break is when you're gonNA start seeing some better basketball let me ask you that along those lines if the season ends and this is the squad that they have going into the playoffs is that a concern for the bench depth. Not necessarily because they've got they've got guys who've been there and done that might concern really is more bronze management of the game. And I think he's doing a great job of it they need to ride. Continue to ride a D. so they lebron can be as fresh as possible going into the playoffs. it's going to be a two man show. Everyone knows that but I think they're depending depending on if they get over the hump or not is how fresh Lebron is going to be in those playoffs. Is that reason discourage them by what happened last night because they still want. You know like I say still wanted like like I said this January stretch for players. I know being in that locker room this is destruction like let's just get through this. You know what I mean so like. I said the fact that when they were playing well they're hitting on all cylinders they're up forty shows with their potential though they let their foot off the gas happens often and it will be all right all right. We have more to come in the next segment on David Stern. Here's what the jump recommends today for today. Excuse gives me Adrian piece on how David Stern was a force of nature story includes Paschal turned himself in some of the League's biggest names in reaction to events surrounding the career of the legendary former. Commissioner join us to discuss stern next job in his thirty years as Commissioner David. Stern made it possible for the NBA to scramble from the brink of bankruptcy and irrelevance to position of global significance unthinkable in the dark days of the late nineteen seventy s and early. Early nineteen eighty s was beset by drug problems teams. Were going bankrupt in the finals. Run tape delay that stunning wing reversal of fortune is why stern will be remembered as perhaps the greatest leader of any sports league ever. Of course the League's rebirth can't be attributed solely early to stern savvy and toughness. It wasn't stern after all fashion from play the transcendent Larry Bird Magic Johnson rivalry. It wasn't stern when viewed Michael Jordan with his gifts either but make no mistake. There might be no other sports executive ever so deftly utilize the tools. WHO's at his disposal? No other commissioner who so clearly recognized and exploited the resources of his sport stern in charge the NBA called itself l.. Fantastic but it was really a star factory. The lead market is stars to the Hilt No league ever better mastered the art of marketing. I'm David Stearns. NBA At its inception years. Before the advent of the Internet not to mention twitter or instagram the slam dunk contest. Was it's a phenomenon. must see event created by stearns. Lieutenant Rick welts people too young to Jordan versus Dominique in the heyday of the competition. You can hardly fathom how big a deal it was then in one thousand nine hundred ninety two. There was the Dream Team. The ultimate expression of stern strategic Egypt thinking of his desire to make the League of global brand with Jordan and magic and Barkley and Olympic uniforms. The world was suddenly safe for Stern's unique brand of basketball diplomacy and capitalism soon the entire planet would be turned into a marketplace for NBA TV rights in eventually shortly the jerseys of players such as Lebron James Ten years after the first Dream Team won gold in Barcelona. yao-ming was the top overall. Pick the draft. This was not coincidence. In its own way house arrive over a milestone in the same order of magnitude is the magic word rivalry in the brize Michael Jordan. There was a good reason why stern had a seat. On the Council on Foreign Relations in terms of his management style. Stern was not a man to be trifled with he could be intimidating demanding imperious in fact all of the above but he can also be charming and in refreshingly blunt and honest even on the subject of the owners for whom he worked for example when the New York Knicks lost a court battle about sexual harassment asked me in their front office demonstrates that they're not a model of intelligent management of course under stirred rain for so long. There were many challenges and controversies. Even total revenue players salaries skyrocketed. There were too many lockouts. There was infamous Pacers Pistons Brawl in Detroit which exposed a yawning disconnect and the relationship between players and fans ants. Tim Donnie veteran. NBA referee went to prison on gambling related charges but in the end David Stern will be remembered for all the ways in which he elevated the game enriching his owners and the players popularizing the league and places where it had been virtually unknown he also also helped create the WNBA and champion back when stern took over it would have seen the best unlikely that the NBA would become global behemoth. It's it's perhaps the ultimate testament David stearns vision the now it all seems to have been inevitable. Thank you the German German shepherds thoughtful tribute to former commissioner. David Stern we. Now welcome to jump columnist for the undefeated Clinton. Yates but some guy. I don't know we don't GEICO Happy New Year all right. And how will you remember Commissioner Stern. You know what's interesting about stern to me is from looking at this from more than just the basketball perspective if you think about the people people who were concurrent with Ms Commissioners you had tagliabue's who had bud seelig you had Batman. who used to work for Stern? You don't think about those guys being even remotely likeable or personable characters that you trust in their leagues within as much as you want to talk about various decisions that stern made Seattle is one that comes to mind the situation regarding uniforms. And all that you still always sort of felt like when it came to stewardship even if you disagreed with stern. He believed what it was he was trying to do for the League. And that responsibility the element even if it personally disagree with what I thought he should have done or anybody else should have done. I think there was a lot there that made him likable to a larger community of people that just basketball fan. You know. It's it's funny you bring up other commissioners and I was talking on the radio about this. I said think about something like the The Jordan ones that the bell the band shoes right because they when it gets a color codes of the time I said imagine if Roger Goodell Jones the NBA Commissioner at that time what. They'd still have the shoe policy stern saw and said all right. The seems to be something that is drawing attention. Let's loosen up these rules. That's make it something so that and we can take advantage of and I thought that he was always a master that even if he had a hard stance on something he was always looking on another way to take advantage of. It never shocked me excuse to meet always shocked me to how much when I go overseas teenager like playing ball and random people knew who David Stern was and that was stunning. People forget they were side by side with magic. Johnson wants him when he made his announcement was in a lot of visible places that I think commissioners didn't even occur to them that it would make sense to be most last time. You thought about watching a commissioner attic game there have the gifts in the world and our David Stern at actual NBA Games. That he was either a part of the commissioner or he returned you as an America's and that matters from a vision standpoint from a visibility standpoint right and I think that is ultimately. What is going to be his biggest legacy? He knew how to put people in the right places and you know how we knew he was there to meet you. You mentioned stewardship. He had the foresight and the Vision into groom Adam Silver so when he retired in two thousand fourteen everybody told League. Had someone ready who had been prepped for Damn near twenty years no the inner workings of it of everything's going on who had gone from different parts of the company NBA entertainment through the. You know the business operation decide who knew how everything worked and had kind of his own spin on things that David allow that personality grows. Well yeah no I think he was no pun intended stern to his points You know but what not big enough to not listen to other people in real like you said with the shoes okay. This is going to grow the game. This is going to better edited game so he was really stern on what he thought was right. And what a line with his vision of what he wasn't close minded and you got to respect that because he looked at everything okay. I may not like like this. This is going to grow the game but to do it. W. Example of that as much as people WanNa say oh well people don't wash those people. Don't wash that making being at the helm when that lead came seemed to be you know to exist and looking at what it is now. I mean that to me is almost largest actual sports in back legs Val Ackerman the first commissioner. WNBA told David Aldridge. Is that along with Billie. Jean King David. Stern is the most influential person for Women's Sports in the twentieth century. I mean that's a huge thing to say all right. Two hundred nineteen number one overall pick. Zion Williamson participated in this first floor practice since he has surgery on his meniscus in his right knee between I also spoke to reporters about his timetable for making NBA debut. He's got some pretty funny. Take a listen to me. I would have been out there like two weeks ago or something but You know it was just good to get back out there. They'll probably be one of those moments. Where just like when he came to my car decision? I woke doc I'm not trying to like to say something safe on the non answer. I'll pray at the week when Chris Aging coach training stuff. I'm ready you know. Let me go. Is there any sense of urgency for him to get his debut abuse out of the way no and I think sometimes the athletes we have to be protected from ourselves. You know case in point demarcus cousins Kevin Durant. Sometimes you know guys that could have probably took and more time got healthy but wanted to come back because they love the game they wanNA play. We don't know anything else but let's go out there not Memphis go out there and play. This is probably the most anticipated debuts in how long you know what I mean. The world's world's been waiting on Zion. So I'm glad that the staff is taking their time in making sure. I had a similar injury. You know this is a six to eight week injury but then really trusting. Your knee is a whole another process process. So I'm glad they're really taking their time with. There's definitely no right to that point though. Are we allowed to criticize the. Pelicans are playing him at all during Summer League. I mean if he was coming off at the knee injuries and where we were. I don't want to feel like we're being overly punitive a team for now trying to do the right thing but if you could've traded never playing him for him perhaps being back now would you. You've done it. I mean I I think that's a reasonable question. In terms of the number one overall pick has not played a regular season game in the first season. He's air when we thought he was going to be there by Christmas. This is unfortunate Senate. I'm just really glad that they were smart enough to tell him no. You can't play now. You can't play till you want. But he tore up the preseason though I said those games don't count towards the win loss ledger but he was in a good spot that one it's been abject disappointment of the season for the Pelicans but the only good part about that now is when he does play. They don't have to worry about him chasing win. It's like you can just manage his minutes to have him in a context an NBA game. Get better get his body right and then if you gotta pull them you have to worry worry about okay. He's trying to win a game in a place. I just want to point out. Something real quick because You know one of the reports that also came out was that there had to re teach him how to walk out a run and that combined with Zion. Say it was up to me. I'd be back two weeks ago. I met you know the training staff Mafia. When you get hurt they make you the breaking down and say this is why you got hurt? I'm talking about Aaron Nelson and Tom May sat over there. In New Orleans would with us in Phoenix. They know why you got hurt. It's probably because you're favoring something and this muscles not firing this muscle has to kind of compensate or whatever and so what I'm hearing is that Zion is physically feeling good. But they're saying no no no no. We have to address the issues that you had before so foremost that's one of the best staffs in the League. I remember them from Phoenix. Very on top of everything and the one thing about nine nine is what does he nineteen twenty. It's still early enough to teach them how to Redo it. You know I remember. We went to something out in where we at Santa Barbara one time when I was with the magic. They were trying to tell me if Vince Carter how to Redo something. We're like you know we're in our thirty like it's not gonNa work but the the the chant the fact that he's young still young enough to do it You know orthotics and whatever they need to do but you can tell that I. It's something has to happen to bring the weight down a little bit. But like I said if the patient's on his return I definitely appreciate coming up therein. Collison walked away from Medians on the table. This past off season when he retired as a free agent their reports. That caused him as I come back with either L. A. Team. How much can help? We'll discuss next means sportscenter tonight. After the Gator Bowl would don Anderson in Kenya. Main Excu exclusive interview with Texans Gigawatt. which was playing Saturday up to surgery two months ago for torn pet SPORTSCENTER ON ESPN AND ESPN up speaking of Jj wanting to Texans? Why Call Week.? CK starts with our game Saturday. Four thirty five eastern Josh Allen. The bills on the Shah Watson and the Texans Houston cover starts postseason. NFL countdown at three eastern. You can also watch live on the ESPN APP Darren. Collison retirement was a big surprise leading into free agency this past off season but according to Adrian Janaki. He's considering a return in February with the clippers and Lakers as its preferred destination All be that Lucky Matt. What would be the better? Fit Forum. Clippers or Lakers Lakers I think he's someone that can get his own shop with that second in which they desperately need someone that can run the pick and roll someone who plays both sides of the ball and can knock down that mid range shot. I would hesitate going to the clippers one because when we were there together. I don't know how well him dot got along And then two with that second with their with the ball. He's taking the bottle loose hands so so those are two things that kind of concern me but I definitely think the Lakers would be a great fit. I could use anymore. That's for sure but I feel like the framework of the Clippers is one that might allow him to get a little bit better into it just because of what you said. He's got that relationship. And maybe as a veteran you figure that out but shelter this dude let me take a quick tobacco let me go ahead and not play and then realize I when I come back and then pick between the two teams I mean. I'm just going to say this speaks to what a player control league. This is now understanding turned down a lot of money from a free agent standpoint but this is kind of unheard certain point in the League and I love him for being able to do it. I hope it works out if the Lakers can land and it would be. What a fortuitous? Turn of events because not only did the democracy network out with White House right. Who's WHO's been hugely? Then they could add Khalsa this stage of the year while I mean he was a guy who's considered line for ten million dollars a year. They can get him for the the veteran minimum plus the player exception disabled player exception. Dwight that's a bargain on top of being a person. Really help them. Do you see mutual interesting. That way. Oh I mean the Lakers reported this on Brian Windhorst who collect the PODCAST. Several weeks ago backup point guard. Is the number one one priority as they look towards improving their roster as we go to feel like this is the same conversation. We're going to have in March when Andre Reid with delegates bought out because he won't get traded because grizzlies are asking too much. It would always going to have a decision to go. Should I go to a team like the Lakers. That needs me or team like the clippers. That probably doesn't need me as as much. But there's maybe a better team and I think that's that's the same thing that caused them. We'll probably have to waive if he does and there's extra motivation blocking other team from. Yeah absolutely part of it is just keep away now all right let's get to the sixers who are in action on. ESPN tomorrow in their previous game. They lost to the Pacers by eighteen on New Year's Eve Josh. Richardson wasn't avenue. The sixers after that loss. Here's what he told the Philadelphia Inquirer quote. I don't think there's enough accountability in our locker room right now honestly. I think that we got some new guys who don't don't WanNa step on toes including myself. I think we kind of go play and don't compete as much Clinton Well Brett Brett Brown responded today and this and this is what he said. He said. He's fine Living the truth. Really well I like the tooth will discussions. If they feel they can be more candid with one another then so be it all right. What does this say to me is says to me? We all Miss Jimmy Butler because accountability. Jimmy book is brought to the table when it came to dealing with young players when it came to how veterans approaching the game that was his core strength as the the guy in your locker room. You see it down there Miami. How much team is improved? Look I don't necessarily think accountability is even their even biggest problem. But I do think that they Miss Butler in this regard and also like like how can they be so much on a week ago. They were pounding the Marquis Bucks on Christmas Day and there was no accountability that not much accessible to me tone center and Jimmy Butler. Was that guy now. Joel embiid address these comments today at practice and he said you need to be comfortable outside side of our comfort zone including sometimes if there's space to on the floor we need to be comfortable shooting it. What does that mean? It means that he's saying Ben some of the same name. Okay so is it a structural dodgers leadership. You know it's leadership. It's what the question mark on this team has always been who's is GonNa be the leader. Jimmy Butler fill that void perfectly. He took the bullets. He took everything he left. People know what was going on and they played well so not having him all right. WHO's the leader? Joel embiid a leader or is he played too much. His Ben Simmons a leader or the two quiet. They don't have a leader in to me. What judges said his point to your team right? I'll read to take this to the media. Let's just hold. The team. Meeting includes with clear the air. I think too often we take stuff that should stay in the locker room and take it outside the locker room in allow us to kind of dive in that locker room up a little bit but to me. Who's going to the leader on that team? That shouldn't be a team conversation. I'm still mad at Ben Simmons for not playing in the World Cup when he could have improved his game decided he was going to the gym with his homeys. That's accountability on the larger level. Oh that's so people want to believe. It's part of the big fan of Australian basketball. Clinton doing thrive come back soon. All right up next the he and the Raptors author of an Eastern Conference showdown tonight. WHO's the bigger threat to season? Find out next on the jump back in minutes away. Pablo discussed Urban Meyer. She Coast Brown. Are the cowboys going to actually keep Jason Garrett move off and Jameis Winston and can anything thing or anyone. Please fix the sixers. Stay tuned all kinds of things that keeps trying to tell you that you don't want to listen to all that and more they'll do a number of the new year with our stars as double header tomorrow on. ESPN and the ESPN APP. Sixers take on the rockets at eight. PM Eastern then the Lakers host eighties former team. The PELICANS at Staples Center coverage begins. They'd be a countdown at seven. All right it's cliched on here on on the jump. Zach Levine said about his preseason predictions the Bulls would make the plows quote. I think we should be right in that hunt that the Bulls are two games out of the eight spot in the East East. You see them making it into the I think anything can happen in the east I just love the emergence of Zach Levine. I think he's finally on People's radar known. How talented is for a long time? Former British Albuquerque's a tremendous player. We definitely should be an all star this year and if you can get his team to the playoffs that's a big big heart. A big jump young play hard. You got Carter junior in there you mark going in and they're chasing Orlando is going to be without Jonathan Isaac. It seems for a little bit here with an injury so maybe that's enough to get them over the hump. I don't know who shot that. Insult Jerry champion. I don't look now. But the spurs a back in the spot on the West Day where we to quit the spurs was like the zombies. They are it came back. Well there's I never for that program of course but lamarcus Aldridge still finds his spots on the court Ford Motor Roads and is not an analyst extreme. I should say but he can find ways to be effective and you have one of the best coaches and basketball and quite quite frankly in a week and western conference. It's not like they're trying to be like the thunder years ago. We get forty eight wins. You could probably get in the playoffs of forty one. Forty forty two wins this year. I mean you can never count team out I think they've built something over there that sport self but I don't think they're any kind of contention to advance it. They do make the playoffs but I definitely think they have a chance to make the playoffs. All right the Knicks won. Don't adjust your cows. The Knicks won three straight games and are six six under interim head coach. Mike Miller Matt Matt is that a real hope we see come through Madison Square Garden. Dolan still there. Yes he is. I just like I mean I. It's just unfair fair to the players. You know what I mean like. They're they're talented guys. You know you can't speak for management You know three games in a row. I'm sure they're happy. They're playing well but they definitely do have a few cornerstones that they're starting to realize the team. Yeah we're talking about missile Robinson earlier in the show. Some of these younger guys still playing for bribes figuring out what is to be a professional guy like Mike Miller his first shot at the big time. I don't think they're gonNA make some sudden surge in be beating the Bulls for a playoff conversations. But they're gonNA be better than had been. I like how you put a Matt. It's Nice for the people involved made enough for the team as a whole but definitely for for the players for Mike Miller to give them the decisions for Mike Miller other might the changes Dana Michael Miller now because too much computer all right tonight we have a big matchup with top teams in the east as the heat host. The Raptors heated currently third in the east game and a half ahead of the fourth seed Raptors fourteenth coming playing. Well both having won seven in the last ten games dave are the heat or the rafters after the biggest threat or the big east. I go with the heat. This is no disrespect to the raptors. They have a championship at coast to have a rising young on star in us. But so do they have to in Jimmy and Bama the BIOS really made strides his game and so and I think the defensive identity For this team when they really go after teams is a little bit stronger. And you throw in some wildcards like a non unlike tyler hero and I got the I got the heat First of all shut out to Toronto because I completely counted him out the beginning season after losing coy but you know. Pascal Siaka missteps amply stepped up their crew with stepped up. But I I'm taking the heat see for pretty much what Dave said I mean. I think they're young. Core is very talented. They have one of the best leaders in the game And they play hard You know so they're gonNA be a tough out And making jokes. I still think there one piece away. I don't know what that piece looks like. But I think their one piece away from actually competing in the East cooling those two two teams they both have dealt with injuries and kept winning all right. There are a lot of great games to choose from tonight as you can see here but they can only be one league pass game aim of the night and it is nuggets at Pacers faces a paper by a point and a half at home tonight but to contain Nikolay Okay who has eleven double doubles doubled in his last fourteen games. The nuggets are looking to rebound from a blowout loss to the rockets while the Pacers are looking to build off a big win for the sixers but the nuns bad loss tonight they are into in the last ten games and are second in the West Matt. Are we paying enough attention. And I think we're paying enough attention to them but I think they're too young still. I think there may be a year or two away me from really being a contender. I predicted they'd be at the top of the West because they are young team and they're playing as hard as it can't every single night and they want them what they want the one they want that homecourt advantage but when you come into play acids veteran experiences. What's going to get you over the Hump to me? The only bet they really have as Paul millsap you know. In the fact that their best players are centre. I think that's why they don't get as much notoriety as other teams teams at you know who are Who have this type of record? But I just think they're too a little too young but I love the fact that Michael Porter Jr. finally play you the very talented peak and helped him get over. I hope I think it's a proper amount of attention. We're paying them so far. They are very good team. They play excellent at home. Denver's true homecourt advantage. Michael Malone has some consistency with with this group. And you get into a playoff series though you look at it and you say who is that next level talent who when the opposing defense everything they can to shut you down. What can they do when and things break down and? I don't think that you'll kick in Jamal. Mary are those guys and everyone else are complementary pieces that feeling around those two he murray streaky in Yokich is a big so it's hard for him because he's not a big time score either but what I do like about the nuggets. They've been elite defensively and this is a team three years ago. They're one of the worst in the League and now there they are one of the best. Even though they didn't add anybody or change their coaches or anything like that. All right. That's the first returns for also voting are in and the results may surprise you. Luca Danni was the leading vote getter followed by honest and Lebron. Are you surprised that Luka is the leading vote-getter Mansa instead of David Stern Vision Globalizing. The game not surprised at all. I mean he's you know having young kids now in in coaching a you I wanna be Luca. WanNa shoot I want to play like Lucas. So he's he's taking the League by storm and I love it. He's GonNa Watch also of course that it's an international voting process isn't just sure votes so obviously but Slovenia three million people. It's not it's not like he's getting a lot of American votes to someone not in this graphic who stands out to me Taco fall the top vote getter front man. I'm telling my my kids are not into the NBA. They love soccer fall. I can't call Luca all right. Thanks to Clinton Dave and that for join us today rates will be back tomorrow. Thanks everybody for watching his thing. Give me one. I'm good Davidson Story. Real quick three to nothing. We Miss Him we

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"Today's opening tenth Christianity, who sports reporting, LeBron James gifting, you teammate Anthony Davis twenty three jersey for the upcoming season. Ramona are you hear the same thing? Yeah. That's a true fact from Chris, as right there. He was interesting, though, that, that's a real, they're both giving mood, right? To say normally cost something right on teams. Joel Merriman tweeted. Oh, hey, twenty thousand dollars to get a team my number and maybe cost Anthony Davis, four million dollars. But you can look at it that way, have new number, and then the selling jersey. There you six maybe six comes back. We'll see. But six and a Lakers jersey is a whole new thing to welcome into the jump. I'm Rachel Nichols, here with our insider, Ramona Shelburne and in the champion. No worries. Reporter Nick for Dow is gonna join us later in this and, you know, we're going to spend a lot of this show talking about whoa. Just breaking news, that the Lakers now have thirty two million dollars in cap space after that trade with the wizards opens up a lot of room for them. Also only leaves three three players that we know of now, we'll be going on the rest are going for we'll talk about that. And as mentioned, Anthony Davis has waived his trade kicker giving up that four million dollars that goes into their cap room as well. So we will be discussing and breaking down all of that throughout the show. I do wanna talk about what this throws the NBA into so I, I want you guys to take a minute, with me here and just go back in time, like way, way back all the way back to two thousand fifteen. Yeah, I know it's hard to imagine what life was like back then. So let me paint the picture for you. Bit Bruno Mars Feddie walk all over the radio. Don snow was dead. Hamilton was debuting on Broadway. And there were only seven fast and furious movies. Hey, life was tougher back, then also back in two thousand fifteen the Golden State Warriors gritty underdogs capturing America's heart. We of course, know what's happened in the time since as they went to five straight finals, the warriors more from David into Goliath, creating such a smothering level of certainty that in the end only series of catastrophic injuries could really undo them now to me, it's that certainty about the Golden State Warriors that helped grow MBA free agency into this year long round the clock obsession that it's become over these last five years. I mean, if you're someone who believed the NBA title was all, but locked up before the players even laced up their sneakers, it's easy to see how talking about who might move around with the Lakers might do with their cap space. How things might finally change. It might all feel like more of a sport than the games themselves. But now it's finally here this weekend this summer, we've obsessing about for so long, and it looks like not just some things are going to change. Change. But that everything is about to has there been a time when we were this unsure of what the coming season would look like quick, do this exercise for me for all the money in your wallet. Who wins the NBA title next year? Not who you want to win the team that, if you had to bet everything you owned, you actually think will win, if that feels like an impossible question to answer right now. That's the point. And then an MBA front offices all around the country, this weekend, GM's and scouts will be meeting millions and millions of dollars on how this thing is going to go is this year to go all in to gamble away future draft picks and a series of dramatic trades. Well, clearly, the Lakers think, so is this the year two way over the salary cap triggering a pile of luxury. Packs penalties will find out in just a couple of days at the Sixers. Think that's true. What did you do? Should they resign everyone run it back, even if it means overspending and that could be a play to make Janas happy enough. He signs the supermax extension. They plan to offer him next summer. Oh, reciting, everyone like that lock the franchise into contracts that will eventually deny them the flexibility that they would need down the line, which in turn could chase, Janice way. What about the Knicks the assumption has been that they're still going to offer Kevin Durant, and his surgically repaired achilles a long-term max deal. Although now we're getting counter rumors that maybe the Knicks are getting some cold feet, and look, I'd sure bet on K D, no matter what that is how talented he is. But it's not a certainty that he's gonna come back and be the same player. He was before the injury. That's just not how Kelly's injuries sometimes work. And by the way, with Katie off the board for next year. Is there any consensus on who the best player in the NBA is right now are you still giving it to a bomb in the year turns thirty five is colliding or is that recency bias Janas who just wanted to be James harden, again, on certainty in almost everything, which feels crazy as we come off one of the more certain feeling eras in recent NBA history, used to be? Death taxes and the Golden State Warriors. Now it's well who knows what time to queue up. Traff Queen roll the dice and watch it all play out. So I started this morning to say, hey, if you could make a bet today on any team to win the title. I made you make that bet who would you pick? And now I'm wondering if that's changed in the last hour one team and it changed over the. Tell me what was and who it is now Houston. Okay. I feel like Darryl MAURICE panicking right now. They just ran into a dynasty, the last few years, obviously, there's a little smoke between Jane this EP. But hopefully they can figure that out. But I had Houston now with the Lakers going for broke to me. I don't know if I go after another superstar from, then I think I've build strategically build a team that fits LeBron AD, coups Maza, great throat option. If you have to have a third often coups, great showed option, and build a team in a solid bench that will have the, you know, give them some flexibility down the road. That is now your Lakers. Yeah. All the money, all money, your Bank account, Ramona Shelburne on all the money. Child. For him. Little quarter for him. But, but I mean that's why it's weird and asked you guys that last year, the year before the year before that, I'm going to say what I said the year before, which is the warriors, you think the warriors, I'm still doing it claims going to be back in February, or March, K, you still have you still have some Kerr, you still have J mongering. You still have a team that knows what you still have Andrea Dala all these other teams. I don't know who anybody has yet, like who's gonna play next to LeBron AD. We don't know if they get a third star besides I guess I don't know if quiet stay in Toronto. I don't know if he goes to the clippers of choir goes, the clippers I might take the clippers right. If Kevin goes to the Knicks, he's out the whole year, and they're probably taking again and trying to get another asset if kyri and Kevin go to Brooklyn will Kevin plane next year. So it's really is that I don't think so. So I'm just going to stick with the one team that I. Maybe three third and fourth coming back. All right. Back into the Lakers discussion, then rate because as report and low breaking news here for you. They have traded mauve Isaac Banga Jimmy joke to Mariko Jones to the wizards to clear cap. Then Anthony Davis waving. His four million dollar tree kicker, which means the Lakers will start free agency with. Yes. Thirty two million dollars shower cap space, the ability to sign a max player or as Matt said, rake, down a little bit more, if that wasn't already enough, though, another bomb for you. He is tweeting quote quite Leonard expected to allow the raptors to make make them their final meeting presentation among the teams visiting with him in lane next week leaks. Sources tell ESPN now the incumbent often prefers to go last in trying to convince a player to stay with the team. We also learned from Yahoo wise expected to meet with the Lakers and clippers Ramona. This is a lot. Yeah. Yes, it does. Right. So do you think they're in pole position? Now, forgetting one of these top guys we've got quiet out there. He's taking meetings in Los Angeles. Right. So Anthony Davis was not inclined to waive his trade kicker and less some, the Lakers were in position or getting a seat at the table for max rage. You don't you don't just wave four million dollars just to there's a lot of money. Okay. So for him and you can get it. We can debate whether or not you should get a trade kicker if you request a trade. But that's for another day. That's for August. But if he's going to waive that for them to just get a seat at the table that is a pretty big leap of faith in or show of faith. They know something I think it means that they have a good expectation that, that someone that they have good chance someone if he ends up waving the four million, and they don't get any of the top free agents. And I might my initial understanding was, it's, it's not like any of the MAC freedoms. It's, it's the top. It's why if it's kyri, then he we consider about learn that group for you. Maybe maybe that would be. On the Lakers. So on a lot of people side. Yeah. So I if he's waving that, that's a signal right now. We see signals from from players from teams they have to make certain moves to get themselves into position. And I think what the Lakers did here was a lot of gymnastics to get themselves that seat at the table, they didn't have to do these masks. You don't have to do. Oh, okay. But look this, this is gonna go through to late about Wagner in Banga protesting mayor though, saying that we do have the Lakers current people. We know will be on the Lakers roster here, and yeah. I it's not the longest list this is we know. So that's still number of people to fill out met. Do you think they would have made this move even if they just meant? Hey, we gotta get other human destroy, you know, this is who they know they want right now. The, the young guys are casualties of war. I think they're trying to be as. Flexible possibly be. But I agree with you guys. The only max guys that I would consider at this point or Cairo Tyree or Kawai. If you're not allowed to get those two guys, I think you should treat equally. Build a team that, that makes sense because I think signing mex- players kind of the easy way out, so to speak, it takes a lot of hard work to sit down. And, and, you know, come up with a roster that will work when LeBron AD. So if it's one of the top guys, I think everyone all Ford, but if it's not I think they should sit down and go to work and really build this team, but really have softer Lakewood because that front office, whoever's run whatever I've been taking a lot of, you know. You know him when things don't go. Well, we gotta talk about him being so, right? Oh, rob credit making Kohl's right now. And to me, they're, they're heading definitely heading in the right direction. It's interesting to me that you said career coli Kevin Durant's injury. Him being off the board next year one way or the other no matter where he signs that takes him out of that list for you. Oh, I never really saw Katie go onto the Lakers. You know, I saw him either staying or heading out east, whether that'd be Brooklyn, New York or they, you know, there was talks really about possibly the clippers, but to me with katie's injury to tricky situation he'll still probably be maxed out. But people have to realize coming back from that injury. He will probably get back to KB, but it's going to take some time. So if you're going to a brand new team, the Knicks the, the nets right when he gets back, he's going to need some people to lean on saying to me that the safest bet for him to lean on and get back healthy leaning on Steph and clay Indre on those guys. So that's kind of the safer route, but we just never know interesting. I do think I never really considered Katie to Lakers for a whole host of reasons. Right. Why would he leaves super team? To get his own team to join a super Tate. Right. All that stuff. But also now with the injury, his time line doesn't fit team. Lebron is turning thirty five years old this year. I mean look this question for the Lakers. And how much guys talk to each other. Ramona's right. It's usually when it's about them. How much do you guys talk to each other? Go talk a lot. You know, agency tell me about what your phone. Start, you know heading toward the end of the season, whether you're in the playoffs guy start talking to get together when they played inched other. You know these whispers at the end of the game. Sometimes sometimes, sometimes it could be joke legal all jokes. But, you know there's definitely talks. But, you know, if you're going anywhere, like the Knicks are book, when you have to go with somebody, you know, if you're start this point in your trying to win or less, it's just about the money. Because those both those teams are they're going to be in the Brooklyn made the playoffs last year. But they're not going to contend the Knicks who knows what the Knicks. But like I said, I don't see them taking. I don't think one superstar going there. It's gonna take two guys to go there to kind of re recreate the culture, I'm fascinated to see now with the Lakers is both options superstar option or the break it up. And it gets really good pieces around them option as we saw Toronto, this year, that can win you, an NBA title and who is doing the texting if it is we know something in advance is Jimmy Butler. Is it kyri Irving? Lebron texting oh my God. We will talk about all of this as we go through the show. We will also get to the report of the Celtics emerging as the front runners for Kemba Walker. If Boston really is the best options for candle Walker Kemba there's money in LA now parent, I'm just saying, I hear distant replay of a historic. Draft moment in time before one and done. Two thousand one. With the first pick in the two thousand and one NBA draft. The Washington Wizards select one me Brown. From? Gruntwig georgia. There have been comparisons guys to Kevin Garnett in terms of athleticism that Chris Webber for his low post game and we attain a lot of possibilities, but none could change our minds in terms of what this kid could do in the long range for the Washington Wizards. The hell is brought to you by Miller high life, the champagne of beers. Mislead? Maker mislead miss. It's a maker mislead? Yesterday under scanner telling Colin cowherd, the Zion seems like a Julius Randle with hops. Which I mean that seems like an awesome player anyway. Brandon tweeted y'all and his canter last time you guard me. I had forty five relax bro. Randall did have forty five against Portland back in March. I will say he only scored two points with cantor officially guarding him. Still little unnecessary, Matt. Why why has happened with that? It just he, he seems to find the right thing to say the wrong at the right time. Because he speaks mind. And that's what social media's for these days. But this, this disguise design, and, and, and really ran on the very tale. I love stem sports footage of Space Jam to Klay on crutches staffing up. Lebron, we also see Anthony Davis Damian, Lillard dream on is fish tuna live up to the hype Ramona. What's the height? I mean there was you. Space to mean. Okay. Yes. Yes, it will live up to, I don't want to be a hand. Wow. Hey, it's my Lord. He's in there. Please this Wayne road. He's going from seventy yards out yesterday. Math TV MLS version of your former teammates. Pretty great. Yeah. Very impressive. There's only one Steph. But that's an amazing job. How many times in practice did you watch him hit something for and warm-ups in wellness? And we, we will do our warm-ups 'em in and Clark lay. But shoot our shot every time they would get to have court while we're doing more months, and he would consistently make a lot of the flyer chat for a lot of gas at the practice. Gully is like you know. Was supposed to be playing up where you're supposed to be staying. Make babysitting on his podcast inside the green room. Danny green said that he made sure, Mark assault did not get the microphone raid because he was having let's call it a little too much fun. Is that good work by green? Is that looking out that? March, you know, shit show is true colors alcohol. A little. Play with in Memphis. Never saw this out of market, Memphis. I'm happy that he got his championship issue. Let him talk. You can't take them back sometime. All right with Kyrie Irving and Al Horford, at least appearing to be on their way out of Boston wold reporting the Celtics have now emerged as front runners to sign Kemba Walker remember earlier this week, the New York Times, also naming Boston as quote front of align, with Dallas also to lure Kemba, the Celtics would likely need to renounce their cap, hold on kyri Horford, Marcus Morris, Terry Rozier to offer Cambe the four year hundred forty one million dollar max, if that's in fact, what they offer Matt. What about four Kemba though is Boston? The best option. It's tough toasted tuition for I mean, obviously, he earned the, my Olivier earning, the supermax, so to speak. But I didn't think there's gonna be tuning teams. They give that to them, and it's not enough on his talent is very talented. Just his size. He's a little guy out there. So having that much money wrapped up in a smaller play. You saw Jordan decided not to go that route. So the foreigners are the only ones who can offer him, these supermarkets. But it sure sours talking coming out of Charlotte. They're not going to it's going to be interesting. You know, whether Boston picks him over, I like Boston, Joan course whether they grab another superstar not. I think they proved what they can do already, if they continue to believe in those guys and give those guys the confidence back and build around them. That, that's not a bad choice and picking up Kimba, whose solid players, not a bad choice. I like it for Boston in the sense that he'll run the offense. He'll run he'll play the way that Brad seems like supplant the way that. And he's also going to facilitate in a way where they're young core can shine. It's not gonna be about Cambe. It's going to be a bad Jason Tatum, and Jaylen Brown. And the guys who took him to the Eastern Conference finals and game seven a couple of years ago. I like it. I just don't know who they're going to replace Horford to spend all that money in the middle. Right. Exactly. Look Kemp is personality wise, the polar opposite of kyri. And also, if you look at as you say he's undersized, so that's a liability especially defensively. No knock on his effort is efforts great. There's just so many. I'm a small person to only so much you can do. Maybe. That's true as if that's even possible. And Brad Stevens has shown he knows what to do with a small guard and how to make that defensive liability I believe, with Zan Thomas. They still the number one defense in the league that that year. Right. So he knows how to maximize guy like that. I just wonder if you're Kemba Walker, and you are not getting that supermax offer and wochit, reporting that Michael Jordan and the Hornets just not really feeling right? That they should be offering him that supermax, don't you want? If you're gonna leave, and you're not going to stay with the team, your whole career and have your your jersey in the rafters. Don't you want to absolutely win the best with great? And is that Boston, is it Dallas with KP? Atheist? A lot, you know, Luca in if they're able to sign the unicorn and you know. Being able to add pieces there, but people, I think team so a neighbor now trying to get their big three situations that they're forgetting that, that all looks great. And you get the fan excite of being able to build a supporting cast and solid role player to what help you win championships. You know, you gotta think the, the Golden State had their big three but Iggy with the always a huge piece, and then winning van was just a huge piece of Toronto, when he so these teams are trying to get these big three's in these big names on papers cite the crop. But they're forgetting about what's going to happen, if these guys, it takes a lot of luck to stay healthy the whole season and be there in the finals, if your team makes the finals and you saw that from Golden State. So if you don't have anything to come off the Mench. No kind of firepower kind of chemistry. Your guys, you can really count on, you're really putting your, you know, your all your eggs in one basket. Like in the point guard market here. If you're losing hiree you can go Kemba for a lot of money, you can go, maybe the ngelo Russell for less money or you can go Malcolm Brogdon for the door. Number three. You should go for brogden. If you go for some no Dangelo, and brogden restricted so that ties up some. Yes. But you might have a better idea about where that money is pretty quickly once read and she gets going. And then if you go for the cheaper option, if you go for a brogden, then you have some money to fill out that roster. Then you have some extra space, okay? But if the Hornets Ramona, we're going to do this, if they weren't getting off the supermax. Why not just train them? Yeah. I mean, my understanding is they want to try to make the playoffs, which is admirable, okay. But. Okay. But this is this is those things, and you have free, and you could make the same argument with the Celtics, right? If you had a bad feeling about Kyrie maybe you could have moved him at the deadline and gotten involved in the Anthony Davis trait. Okay. Neither of them did that. And they just kind of press their luck and didn't work out. And I just if you're building worn, it's right now, I guess you've decided that reached the end of the line with this group because you don't have any just by them saying, we're not gonna go to Mexico if they lose him they have a lot of money to improve team. They're still a bad situation with the cat. Right. No. Absolutely. And look, I will give Boston more of a pass on not trading Kyrie because he so mercurial can say in February. They knew what he was going to do in June. I don't remember exactly the date of the ask me on July first but maybe that was after the deadline. I don't I don't remember, here's what I do know it's up to the Hornets to decide if you want to give that money. So why wait until June to? Side that you could have decided that in February. And they, they know already. Well remember, thank you so much for joining eighteen ESPN show today look for her on around the horn just coming up our. So Nick for Dell's gonna cop pin for us and Gilbert arenas. We are going to be talking about the fact he does not care for your style GIC memories of deepens in the nineties, people is that real talker. BS. We'll discuss after the break met Barnes is the perfect person to play this game with, by the way to. NBA's cover league hopes back next Monday with a game. It's all Lake City between the in jazz at nine o'clock eastern seven mountain time. See we put in the mountain time there for the fans of those teams get it is to, and the ESPN app. Welcome back to the job. Rachel Nichols alongside NBA champion Matt Barnes now joined by ESPN warriors reporter Nick for del. So maybe the office. Ila claps, come on. Nick, that was those of medium that was like, we'll build it up. Now you've got some good information. I'm ready. Ready, ready? To set him up the star rate because it may be the off-season great close around the NBA though, never take a day off. We are going to play one of our favorite jump games, BS or real talk. We give you the quotes, you give us the emojis. Let's start with the rockets Houston foreign J Tucker, wanted to shut down the noise James harden. Chris Paul are at odds. So he told the athletic quote. I'm sick of all this news. It's fake everybody. I argue with James and Chris more than Chris and James argue, so look, he in Chris or longtime friend, right? I do see them back and forth with each other quite a bit is this Bs real talk. Oh. Hey, Matt Barnes as someone who knows Chris Paul. Well, talk to me smoke, there's fire, I think Chris and they're doing a good job trying to put those fires out. But to me up less on what is said in reading body language, and you can tell between those two, there's been some friction, you know, who's to blame who knows. But there's definitely some friction there. And I think everyone's just trying to put that fire out. Because like I said earlier to me they're they're at top contender. Even with the team the way it is constructed now to win the title next year, and he just continued to ran into dynasty with Golden State, the last two years in the playoffs, but they have already one of the best players in the game James and a good supporting cast and they're in a position to win. But I think they need to figure out what's going on over there. I when you have to alpha dogs going at it on the same team. We've seen it work in the past often, the not when everybody's on the same page, especially your stars trouble in when you have a guy like Chris Paul who seems to be on the downslide a little bit. And you have James who is. Is really the guy there if they're not on the same page. I don't know how it can work. Chris Paul is aging because he's a human, and I've seen guys do that very gratefully, right? I mean, I think we need to be like Chris Paul writing him off. There are guys who do that in a way where they become more crafty, where they change their game a little bit. But to do that it's possible he feels. He needs to play a style of play that he can't play with names on the court. I think he made a huge sacrifice realizing he was going to Jane this team the first year and who's to say they're a hamstring away from possibly go into the finals. But I think. This is separate discussion, can we say that they were hamstring away the year before of going to the finals if they had the chance fully healthy on their floor facing? The whole different situation. I feel like they really had the upper hand in that particular theory ago. You know what I mean? So I'm just wondering if we can still say, I think to me, the next I it's hard to as James to change anything because he's one of the most prolific scores we've ever seen in the history of the game. But to me, the next step for that team in him isn't a whole is to pick and choose his spots. He is so talented, knowing that anytime any place within that forty and get a bucket, y'all know that. But to me, if you start giving everyone else warm and getting them touch, then picking and choosing your spots, down the stretch, you're going to be playing against less people I am right now that he's planning. It's two and a half guys every time he brings them all because they know that he is the money if you get PJ going in air, Gordon CPU, assisting Capellas up a lob threat at the end of the game, really planning it's one guy, maybe one and a half guy. So to me, the next step in James game is amazing. The is, is picking and choosing his spots. Interesting every single player who sits and comes on the show says that very curious to see if there's any advice heated. Talk about warriors for Igwe Dalla. 'cause man he's making headlines every day on this book tour. Thank you achey for making our last week before free agency starts, so news worthy earlier this week on the breakfast club. He spoke about how some players in the league aren't huge fans of Steph curry. He said, quote, you know, where I see it, the most the hate on Steph, it's across the league the other players? Some of the older players hate the he came in and took their shine. They hate it so Iggy says older players hate on Steph, the Esa real talk. Real for me of seen it, you can feel it from other players in the league and met you can speak to this as well. When you talk to people about Steph, there's this resentment because he changed the game. I'm really believe it say hundred. No, I believe it. I'm for it. I'm always been a fan of me, but go and finish your point and I'll say but he has changed the way the game is yes. And I think a lot of guys came into the league thinking, I'm going to grind I'm gonna play defense. I am going to play the way I saw growing up and Steph is shown that there's a whole different style to the game. And when you play that game you need different pieces to fit around you. And he has made a lot of guys had either changed their own games. Or they've kind of slid out of the league a little bit with the way. No, I agree. I think you know, he came in. He's, he's the golden boy, he came in and destroyed record books. One championships beat LeBron. He's done a lot of things that probably angered other players and other fans. That's why I don't think he gets the respect he deserves as obviously, the greatest shooter one of the greatest players ever to play the game. And I can see people being made from that not, not to mention that the light skimping and people have problems with that. And like I said, he's, he's a perfect example of what the what the needs to be represented as and people don't like that either. So, like most of the time, when people are so good or something so perfect, so to speak people don't like that. That's exactly what you get with stuff being on the right or wrong side of history, though. Because history is going to remember him as a two time MVP the first unanimous MVP as you say, consensus greatest shooter game has ever seen, so that's might want to get on board while Matt your boy Gilbert arenas, who also I have to say Cosby great joy, get into cover him earlier, in my career never shy about sharing his opinions, he recently said, on the no chill podcast. The d. Fence in the nineties, wasn't that great actually players just guys. They couldn't defend so is that the surreal talk. All right. Let Liz here BS because there's more emphasis on playing defense back than the way. The game is constructed now in in how they want nothing but scoring and highlights and dunks. There's an emphasis on not touching people at all. So it's really a free path. Can you imagine? M J would do in this era, when you couldn't touch him in, you know you saw what he did when people are trying to take head off. So to me, there's definitely more emphasis and people don't go these younger kids don't care about playing defense at all anymore. They just want to score sheet threes dunk. But I have to say, that's BS because they play defense back in the nineties question. They also walk uphill. You walked up hill both ways to school. Points. The league wants point knowing that thought divide Parker probably said they don't play. They don't pay me to play defense. Probably a good idea. The point is. There is a whole, there's a whole shift change and this ties into what what's has done for the game in my opinion. When you look at what's gone on people want to score. They're not getting paid or rarely are they getting paid to stop people, and that's the shift? And that's why I couldn't disagree with with Gilbert anymore. Well, if you think about it. I mean when you're watching highlight you don't wanna see. I don't I love divas. I don't wanna see deepens pilots. I wanna see someone get dumped the shot from four to size it so much. Back in the day. I mean I who had to attend all seven games of the piston, San Antonio Spurs NBA finals where I think they broke ninety like couple times during that series. I can tell you, it was not scintillating basketball, people sure miss it later in the decade. But still, all right from one legend, which Gobert arenas, clearly is to hall of Famer coach, Don Nelson. Another wide short stint with the Knicks touring the ninety five ninety sixties and he told Bryant Gumbel on HBO reeled sports. Why his tenure was so quick? Listen to this. Did you really suggest trading Patrick Ewing? Yes. That cost me my job. I said, you need to trade, Patrick Ewing, and you need to trade him. Right. Right away. There's a guy by the name of Shaquille, O'Neal available. What love the come to New York, and we can jump in there and beat the Lakers out and get this guy, and we should do it. And of course, it got back to you. Ain't I was done. I was toast. Yes, I imagine. So you can catch that full interview currently streaming on HBO, and I would really recommend it. It's amazing. But let's get back to this Nellie wanted to trade Ewing four shack. He said that got him fired real talker. BS friends. Hundred hundred get what do you think that can you imagine check in New York? Right. Like right off the Lakers. Right. That's basically, what we're trying to New York. I believe it to ninety five now to norlander the Knicks have been a mess gathered, you know, a team that made that follows run in the nineties. But they've always been a lesson that's gonna knock on and it's still knock on them. It's the reason why people you'd think one of the biggest market in the world, people jumping to go there, but it's so much dysfunction, top that people are hesitant to go there. So I definitely see that being one hundred bucks. Right. So Mr Orlando, this whole conversation watching this highlights makes me want to cry. Because I watch this team this is my team I was sitting there in the stands with my Horace Grant goggles on watching that check team make the run in Orlando. There there it is. Two. Behind you. That's why that's why I got him that breezy. Very everybody goes there. And do the picture. I knew the little help. I just I think about what could have been Orlando and I agree with Nelly completely. He's right. When you go against Patrick Ewing, you're gone, but I think about Shaq penny Nick Dennis that group if they stuck together, I think we made a thirty for thirty Agic moment, it could have been unbelievably special. And when I watched shack in that jersey, I think back to how many things could be different. If you just stayed there and tried to rack up titles in, in that place and then stayed forever in Orlando. Just thinking of yourself. No guy plenty other things that are taking his time. And so he's just fine. Watch. On the biggest story of the day, the Lakers have cats face now which free agent should they go after to fit in with LeBron AD, or should they just break it up. We will discuss that right after this commercial. I here's what the jump recommends for today. Heaviest pan dot com to read our NBA insiders, Kevin pelton and Andre smelling lay out the most realistic best and worst case scenarios for each franchise in the Western Conference, they had to edit that after this morning. Thanking blow here in a few minutes to discuss of Kemba Walker. Could make the Celtics better. Someone's already throwing shade Zion Williamson you ever to read guy, Pippin Denis Rodman and throwback Thursday with Alan Iverson and Nellie. Stay tuned. We gotta get back to the breaking news, according to Lakers, traded Moba, like America Jones to the wizards to clear cap room at Anthony Davis, waving. His four million dollar trade kicker, which means the Lakers will start free agency with thirty two million dollars in salary cap space, the ability if they want or can to sign a max player. So Matt Barnes here with us on the set for Dil here are the players who are currently we know we'll be on the Lakers, roster some list, but it's an impressive one if you're only gonna have three guys, you know, we'll be on your team. Good to be really. More money, man, you got pay Kuzin science. That'll come up with one thing in time. Please so so Manson earlier on the show, he wouldn't mind seeing a fell out, but that's not as much fun to talk about mad. So let's, let's get to who we think is gonna join LeBron, d and if they do want to dump it all on one person, they will be dumping, it, by the way, on AD, who's getting number twenty three and our David Benham, reporting it since LeBron has given his number two, Anthony Davis, that LeBron sources tell him will wear number six again. So that had the right call there. So we just saw the free agents being up there who do you think is best to join them? What do you think there were four guys on that Listrik made real sense to me, and to being Katie and clay, they're possibly gonna go in Colli kyri, if you get either one of those guys, that's no brainer. You do it, if you can't do that strategically build this roster to, to fit LeBron v AD you'll have. A solid bench. You'll have people that when you, wrestler run, you know that the game is still in good. Hands quality players, and go that route. But like you said, it's not the fancy move. It's not the LA move. It's not the wow, move that everyone wants but it's a smart movie. Can't get those top top guys if we're looking for the while move. There's one name on that list of jumps out to me now that they've cleared this face you me. Jimmy has always wanted to play for the Lakers in Los Angeles. If he in his mind can go to a place where he, he knows. I'm not the man but I can help try to win the title. Lebron's gonna have to make that call. We talked about free agency and recruiting if LeBron James wants Jimmy Butler in Philly is not comfortable offering him that fifth year and in all the max money, if LeBron makes that Collins as Jimmy I need you to win a title, you'll be in LA you'll get all the trappings of being a star in this place. I think that's the guy to call me over the years. And this is not specific to this summer. I just want to say that for all aggregate out there about the idea playing with LeBron because look he's bounced from a couple of teams. So we've talked about it over the years. He really likes basketball fit. I just he likes LeBron lot to personally those guys get along. The, the question is, would he want to come into situation where you say is, he would be number three and also is that the best fit for them? I think is a great fit from a basketball standpoint with those guys, especially with Anthony Davis defense. But I don't know if I see it, I just don't know if I see him wanting to come here. Here again with Jimmy brothers. The talent is, is not questioned. The defensive in the hardy plates, not question. It's just that the his mentality is, is some kind calls a question because you've seen a belt and have problems from team to team is talented. Easy is at that shouldn't be an issue are excuse me. He shouldn't be belting from Medine, but it's, you know, his mindset in problems with he fund, the problem everywhere, he goes, so it'll be interesting to see, but like you said, if LeBron makes that call, and they all stand, when people rally, people together for something special, you have to sacrifice it in the warriors are a perfect example. All those guys sacrifice and they won title. So this is a situation where guys what really want to sacrifice the numbers might not be amazing. But we're in LA and we're going to win that. That's definitely reason. The sacrifice for me. So interesting. However, if pans out, we've also got the rockets, reportedly have everyone on the trading block, not named James harden. Chris paul. So how should those guys feeling about it? There's so much juice in the NBA right now. We've got more for you. It's coming up right after the break. Mike Lee tonight on sportscenter at six eastern wo students throughout the Lakers. Alan play for Mets player to act LeBron av. Plus DNA Smith's take on the Celtics in to land, Kemba Walker. And I look highlights of Mets and Phillies in the finale of the crisis series for center, L A me after PTI, our next MBA game Saturday, the mystics hosting the sun at two o'clock eastern right here on ESPN, and the ESPN app is crunch time on the jump sources telling ESPN's tip McMahon free agent, Patrick Beverley looking for a three year, forty million dollar plus deal possible landing spots include the Mavericks, the Lakers, the, bows, and the clippers Nick does that number sound right, for Patrick Beverley over guy, getting everything he can because forty Bill for pet bed. Is he liked the greatest, locker room guy of all time. I mean. One of money. Didn't he make some of that money will what he did not first-round series against Golden State? He's been making this money since he's been playing, you know the market is crazy right now and guys getting crazy numbers. I'm happy to see someone like him, you know, who was similar to myself with just a defensive player did the right things was the energy guide completely changed the temple of the game when he comes in get your money. There we go. And I don't think he's waiting for anyway. Whoever offers it. He signed that neighbor. Jimmy Butler trolling a max level Bleacher report captured this exchange between Butler, and an Instagram commenter. So starts with the guy saying Jimmy is worth the max Butler replied, and your opinion. Is it worth me commenting back to you? But hey I guess we're both getting blank. We not worth he didn't say, yeah, I just gotta make that clear. Do you like that? He took the time out of his world travels to clapback here love it. People think because you know, a former athlete, but we're athlete, you could say whatever you wanted time. And you're just supposed to turn the other show that you'll have to turn the other show. We wanna comment comment. Katie wants to comment comment, comment. When people talk trash talk back to it always crazy. Because I don't pay attention. I don't read what it. See and hear everything Jimmy would divvy would but I'm for it go after rackets are making it aware. They will do whatever it takes to bring Jimmy Butler Houston won't reporting on Wednesday. That the team is offering cling. Cappella Erik Gordon PJ Tucker all in separate deals. The idea would be declare ups cap room, right? Acquire picks to sweeten a potential sign and trade for Butler with Philly, which they would need to do because they couldn't clear up all the room that they would need for Butler no assurances from either the Sixers or Jimmy Beller that they would participate in this Matt four summers ago you were traded twice in the span of eleven days university than most, what these three are going through. How should they feel right now to be the lead is the business over human? You know, these guys are probably set up shop in Houston, Heff families, and inter USA. What's going on? But this is the wild game of the is. Now. That's why you see so many superstars take. Their feature in their own hands with love. So this is unfortunately, a part of the business, they should be frustrated, but also use that as motivation in chip on your show and because you pink, if PJ Tucker and airborne, and go to Philly to me. It's tough, you know stuff. I think that's why the Lakers had to clean house because you know you put everyone on the chopping block. When you try to bring these guys back that bridges broken, so they got to tread lightly. I I don't like guys always announcing everything like that, like, do it under the radar if you're going to do it because if you how. Ask you Matt bars. Come on. You have to bring these guys back. Let you gotta bend these fences talker and Gordon pros. They've been along around a long time. They know what's up Capella. Just got paid. I'm with Matt. There's a human element that gets lost their sometimes. But they've been through it all they know what's going on. I wouldn't take two. Paid as much as he wanted to an thought. He was worth. Remember that? I mean, yes, just today, the buzzer, the best world bomb for last I love this. The Boston Celtics hiring care Lawson as an assistant, coach leaks, Kelly, ESPN Lawson is X WNBA Olympic champion is points out. She's been an MBA commentator with ESPN. She's been the TV analyst for the Washington Wizards. This should have happened last year on thrilled happening this year. Listen to shut out to pop pop started this trend in and I like having these basketball minded, women come in, in, in bringing a different view two men in which can help. So I I like it care is going to be fantastic. So smart. She's so good at this. I'm thrilled to see what she does. And they do have a younger team, which I think she's gonna excel with as well. Thanks to these guys were back tomorrow. Three Easter who knows.

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Biden targets Trump: My motto is "Make America moral again", Growing number of Republicans troubled by Trump's Fed pick, Washington Post: Mueller took issue with Barr's depiction of findings

Erin Burnett OutFront

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Biden targets Trump: My motto is "Make America moral again", Growing number of Republicans troubled by Trump's Fed pick, Washington Post: Mueller took issue with Barr's depiction of findings

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Out front next worried about Biden, the White House repeatedly bringing up the twenty twenty runner unprovoked why plus new Republicans raising concerns about the president's pick for the Federal Reserve this CNN's K violent or it's more damning comments from Stephen Moore. What's going on here and a CNN exclusive Boeing admitting a crucial safety alert didn't work on all the seven thirty seven max planes steam planes involved in two deadly crashes. Let's go out front. And good evening. I'm Erin Burnett out front tonight, Biden on their minds, the White House taking notice of a man who is now head and shoulders above his twenty twenty opponents. Now, Joe Biden, the former vice president about to speak to a crowd of supporters in the crucial state of Iowa. They are live pictures of the event it'll begin any moment as Biden today intensifies attacks against Trump. Limited to four years. This administration will go down in history. As an advert moment in time, but give eight years of this administration in the White House. We're gonna forever and fundamentally changed the character of the country Biden's attacks, frankly, taking the White House off its game today. The president tweeted about Biden four times yesterday. But today when his top aide, Kellyanne Conway was asked about infrastructure, which was V topic of the day or the White House. She included this in her answer. Again. The question was how does President Trump plan to pavers infrastructure plan Kellyanne? Middle-class is booming now, despite what Joe Biden says he also just sounds like someone who wasn't vice president for eight years, but him aside and his nonsense to say on the subject of Biden since he's hovering over everything. Now, I'm just curious if he's dumped a bomb, Biden cowardice he against infrastructure. He's been in government for nearly fifty years. Why why are the bruise enriches probably? Did you hear the word infrastructure was actually in there? I'm glad I'm glad at got in there. Look again, the question there to Kellyanne was about how Trump would papers infrastructure plan. It was not about Joe Biden, you sort of get the sense that Joe Biden's on her mind. In front of in several times on. How is it on proximate? He's your. It was on prompted Kellyanne. Because no one asked you, but Conway is right Biden is the clear front runner as of now thirty nine percent of Democrats say Biden is their top toys. That's according to our new poll tonight, which puts Biden more than twenty points ahead of Bernie Sanders, the closest competitor and a new poll from Quinnipiac this afternoon. Mir's CNN's results are lead. Sands is out front live at Biden's rally in Iowa so Arlette, what are you expecting from Joe Biden tonight? Well, Erin, Joe Biden, we'll be taking the stage here in Dubuque injustice shore while it his debut trip to Iowa as twenty twenty presidential candidate. And earlier today he was very clearly trying to keep the focus on President Donald Trump going after Trump for his tax cuts saying that he is a president that abuses power Biden has really refrained from engaging with his democratic opponents like Bernie Sanders who over the past twenty four hours has been trying to stake out these clear differences between himself in the former vice president when it comes to policy. Calling outs same citing differences in their votes on NAFTA. And the Iraq war today Biden was directly asked about that criticism from Bernie Sanders as he stopped at an ice cream shop here in Iowa reporter asked him about that and Biden simply said that he is proud of his record, and that he'll be ready to engage with his democratic opponents in those primary debate. What's that? I bait being less than two months away. But this is Joe Biden's third run for president. He's been here to Iowa countless times before, but he's never come to the state as a front runner leading that democratic pack today, Biden did an interview with radio Iowa here in the state and said that he doesn't feel any pressure as as the front runner, but he is going to work like the devil here in Iowa to win. He told a crowd earlier today in Cedar Rapids that no one is going to work harder in Iowa than Joe Biden. Erin arlette. Thank you very much. And I want to go down to Troy price chairman of the Democratic Party who worked for President Obama's reelection campaign and Hillary Clinton's campaign. Our thanks for being with me. So you heard our let going through what Biden told radio Iowa today. I don't feel any pressure. I'm going to work like the devil, obviously. To polls today show him to be the front runner by far. But, you know, the national polls as we know don't matter. What matters is the state. Because that the case in Iowa. Well, I think there's no doubt that vice president Biden starts with an advantage. You know, he is worked our brand twice now in the state nineteen eighty seven and two thousand seven he's got a strong network in the state, and he's going to be able to tap into that as he hits the ground here now, but it's still very early. And there's a lot of people out there. A lot of people. I talked to who are undecided about who they're going to support on caucus day. So I think there's a lot of time left. And I think we're gonna have a lot of fun between now and caucus back. How long this? This thing is going to go on parlementary. Like all we do is campaign whenever governs. That's an editorial note by me. Okay. But clinton. I will caucus Troy when you talk about who won by point three of a percentage point over Bernie Sanders. Okay. He came in at forty nine point six. So obviously, people know him they liked him Biden, you know, as you point out, right? He's been to Iowa before. But the last time he competed there in two thousand eight he got point nine of a percentage point finishing fifth. That is nothing to be proud of the Sanders and others have a leg up. I mean, if you're as well known as Joe Biden. Do you have something to be concerned about? Well, I think that I mean, listen, there's no doubt the Senator Sanders also has a built in advantage from the fact that he has infrastructure still in place from four years ago. But you know, like, I said this is still anyone's race at this point. And I think that, you know, the vice president certainly has strong relationships here from those relationships from his past campaigns. Plus also his time as vice president he made several trips into the state both both in twenty twelve and as vice president. And so, you know, he's going to have a nice a place to start off with from. But there's like I said there's still a lot of time. This really comes down to who's going to build the infrastructure and who's going to put in the hard work voters in every county in the state. I want to bring in Jen Psaki who knows Joe Biden, very well. And was the White House communications director for President Obama and obviously worked on his campaign. So you know, has been, you know, a up close with Joe Biden many over many years Bill Kristol editor at large of the bulwark and founder of the weekly standard. Also with me. Okay. Bill. All right know, and our viewers know your feelings on the current president of the United States. You heard Biden he is he's taken on Trump. He's doing it aggressively. That's his main focus would you vote for him. I don't know if he's going to be the nominee. But I look I think it's smart of him as a campaign strategy one question about Joe Biden said to poor runs really for the presidency successful vice president for eight years, but that was really I'm Barack Obama's coat tails, obviously. And so did he, you know, what do you have a strategy apart from just I'm Joe Biden, I've been here. A long time. I was Brock Obama's vice president, and he does have a strategy strategies to run against Donald Trump not against the other fifteen or twenty it whatever there are Democrats kind of adore them, ignore them. And just take on Trump be polite to everyone else and convinced democratic voters, and he's starting critics strong place that he can be Trump. He can match up with Trump. He takes up all of these other guys. They're nice guys younger people mostly they're going to squabble a little bit with themselves about this detail of policy or who's a little more liberal or progressive on this or that. And I don't think I tend to still be a bit of a Biden skeptic American politics, usually go backwards, you know, and and elect someone who has been around for so long vice president. Before so to speak. But I I think he's running an intelligent campaign so far. All right. So Jen to this point about going backwards and also as a nominee nominating someone older, right? That's not the way Democrats, usually go, right? You spent two campaign cycles on the campaign trail with Obama Biden was obviously there so so as I said, you know, him very well you've been with him. A lot has changed over just these past few years is Joe Biden ready for this. We'll see I think part of what delayed his announcement was that he was talking to his campaign team about how hard this was going to be that this is not going to be a coordination that there are a lot of candidates with a lot of excitement a lot of support behind them. And that the gloves would be off. And they were right. The gloves have been off since the day in. Now, he was running. I think what should be encouraging to them is in the CNN poll and other polls his support is pretty strong. It's also strong under some very important demographic groups, including African American women now that's contrary to what. You may see on Twitter, but that's encouraging for them. I don't think right now, he's running as Bill said this campaign kind of highbrow campaign against Donald Trump. He wants to position himself as being the best general election candidate, that's a strategy. But you know, Bernie Sanders is running a brass knuckled campaign to take him out in the primary you have to get through the primary to get to the general election. So I think it's got to be more than that between now and the primary start, and I expect we'll see more than that. And and you know, Bill, here's the thing. Joe Biden is saying he doesn't want Obama's endorsement Obama sitting this out and to some that may sound strange like the Ken endorsed, Joe Biden and your Barack Obama. But on the last he said, he's going to wait out the primaries, right? Joe Biden says that's fine. I don't need him. However, his new campaign video would use his Obama's voice. And actually something said when he gave Joe Biden in the medal of honor. So here's Joe Biden's video today. Has made me better president he could not have been a more effective partner in the progress that we've made. And then on the stump today. He continued. Here's Joe Biden. We choose hope over fair. We choose unity over division. We true truth over lies, and we chose science over fiction. Sounds familiar because it is. We are choosing hope over food. Choosing unity over division and sending a powerful message. That change is coming to America. Yeah. Well, why is Joe Biden to thirty eight thirty nine percent right now not because he was a Senator for thirty plus years because he was Barack Obama's vice president Bronco baba is extremely popular with the Democratic Party two-term president and he's got to play that card. I I agree with John though at some point, but he can do this for couple of months. Maybe I think he'll stay. He he's built a nice little lead here. But at some point the primary becomes a real primary a real fight. And at some point he has to defend various votes various positions distinguish himself from other candidates. And I do wonder at that point weather, as you said earlier suggest the normal democratic tendency, which was to go younger when you're, you know, the the Democrats who Republicans. Little bow backwards. Obama Clinton Carter John Kennedy, even Franklin Roosevelt think the all the Democrats who replaced Republicans in the White House and the last century the average age is something like forty eight. I mean, they're all that's been the tendency of Democrats. So look all the walls are gone and Trump changed everything. And who knows? But I I think I think by up to a good start. But I kind of Jason needs to have a pivot at some point where he explains okay going forward. What's my vision does age matter, obviously, Joe Biden's, only a few years older than than the sitting president? But does does age matter from where you sit what you're hearing from voters. Well. Well, I think what matters is who's going to put in the work, and they want to know that someone who's going to be able to go out there and fight every day between now and the caucuses and fight every day from the caucuses to the general election. And then more importantly fight every day in the White House for them and fight on the issues that matter to them. That's what people are looking for. That's what they're going to be looking at when they talk to these candidates, and they size them up over the coming months. And I look forward to the conversations that islands are going to have with the vice president and all the other candidates that are running so John, you know, obviously, it's purposeful. We choose hope over fear unity over division. Right. Those are exactly the words Bronco. Right. He's doing it on purpose. Is that all good? Or does that carry the great risk for Joe Biden? Look, I think right now he's wrapping himself in the cloak of a popular former democratic president, you always get more popular when you leave office. There's no doubt about that. And he remains very popular among the democratic electorate. But if if an endorsement of a popular democrat would win wins an election, Hillary Clinton would be sailing to her reelection right now, and she's not. So I think Joe Biden needs to be mindful of that and he needs to pivot to what he's about what he's going to represent how he's moving. Thanks for it. He did a little bit of that today where he talked about the fifteen dollar minimum wage and buying into the public option. But I think when voters start to tune in they're going to want more. I mean the poll today was interesting too because he ninety seven percent of people knew him only fifty one percent knew about his policies. So he's going to have to define that. So that they have something to bite into when they're really making a decision down the down the road when people are really tuning in post. Labor day. All right. Thank you all and next more controversial comments surfacing from Stephen Moore. As a growing number of Republicans are raising serious concerns about Trump's pick for the Federal Reserve. Comments like that sheer? Don't make me happy. I'm sure they don't make you happy either. Plus a rare moment in Washington between Democrats and President Trump. We agreed on a number which was very very good. I mean, it was it was all wonderful things. Platitudes what's going on? And then. It is time for us to address the ugly stain of slavery. That is a part of our history. Our reparations becoming the Democrats litmus test. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Zanny optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. 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Officiant if it quote simply required every American household to write a twenty dollar check to the radical feminist group of its choice comments like these have Republican senators like, Marsha Blackburn. Not happy. Comments like that? Sure. Don't make me happy. I'm sure they don't make you happy. Either. Dave. He is the nominee will guarantee you one thing. This is something that will absolutely come up in that conversation. Absolutely. Okay. Jodi, Ernst says she would be unlikely to vote for more if he were nominated, and it isn't just women, nor should it. Be just women who would be incensed by comments like those Senator Lindsey Graham today describing Moore's potential nomination as very problematic. Moore told CNN tonight that he wants to sit down with all of them and say, quote, I'm not anti woman. Montage was out front mono. How much trouble is more in significant amount of trouble? He is actually not even been formally nominated by the White House for this position. But already the publican senators are saying don't even bother sending up the paperwork to officially nominate him because the chances of getting confirmed are incredibly slim, that's because there are fifty three Republican senators they would need to lose. No, more than three Republican senators in order to get his nomination through and already ward them three or signaling significant concerns, you name some of them, including Joni earns to communicate with the White House that you'd be unlikely to get confirmed if he does actually get nominated and other Republican senators are saying that they will be unlikely to vote for him. Now Moore told CNN tonight that he does not plan to step aside at the moment. But ultimately, this will be a decision Erin for the White House. What do they wanna put the colleagues through this kind of fight which more would undoubtedly get scrutinized for his writings and Republicans have to take a tough vote because Democrats are signaling that they are going to vote in unison against his nomination. And one key Republican Senator John thune, the number two Republican told CNN, you have to know you're going to have to you telling the White House, they should know that anomalies we'll get this kind of analysis or scrutiny. It'd be helpful. If they knew that before they nominated. These individuals. All right. Thank you very much. I want to go to Joe Walsh, national fares correspondent the nation and rob asked Torino member of President Trump's twenty twenty reelected visory council. Joan these comments from more. This is the I I've. No long time. I've never personally heard him speak this way at all. But this is over many years. It's extremely consistent. It's disqualifying. It's absolutely disqualifying. I think that we will see his nomination not come to fruition. I, you know, let's watch Twitter tonight and tomorrow, I think even this president is going to have a hard time with that. But I just have to say I think Steve Moore has been trying out on TV and in op Ed columns for this job. And he impressed the president before his willingness to just back him whatever he used to be a deficit. Hawk deficits are terrible now deficits, you're fine. He used to be a hike interest rates under Obama now. No, the the whole fed should be gone. They should lower industries under Trump. So he's been looking for someone to do with bidding. And he thinks he found him. But I don't think this is gonna work. I mean, just remind people some of what more said another column this from two thousand complain about his wife voting for. Democrats writing quote women are so malleable, no wonder, there's a gender gap. And then there are things like this on this show. I and most Americans love a woman who stands by her man. That's what a wife should do in standby. Her husband. I wanted to make sure we extended it. So you could see my reaction to that. Rob. Thought of that is that a husband should stand by his wife to good one route. Yeah. There you go. Okay. Here's here's the thing. How does this happen? That they even get to this point. Right. They come out they publicly say they want this guy. They're going to put this guy out. They're going to end. And you know, this is all sitting there. Will I think they properly vetted somebody before they put him out here? But having said that the question comes down to fifty three senators, or at least fifty in the Republican rank and file find this to be so onerous find it to be so terrible that they would not vote for somebody who based on his background is very qualified the club for growth is a very mainstream conservative economic think tank, which he started most of these senators, I would guess all fifty three have had interactions with not just Stephen Moore. But with the club for growth throughout their careers. So he's not out of the mainstream on economics. He would go, and maybe disrupt the fed a little bit. But he's be one of seven. So he wouldn't be the deciding factor do something silly like the gold standard. But yet if this is your economic view, then you have some serious issues. And I mean this. The male needs to be the breadwinner of the family, and one of the reasons I think you've seen the decline of the family not just in the black community. But also it's happening now in the white community as well is because women are more economically, self sufficient. Wow. You know? I mean, some of this probably makes him more qualified now your job was open. I was winning for Jones. Open to the family is I look again, I've known Steve Moore for a long time. I am shocked to see all this stuff. Do have to take with some of what rob said in terms of him being qualified. He is a partisan person. He is not an economist someone with a doctorate who really has been studying the economy he has been advocating for a long time. Rob and using the club for growth is mainstream. I call it extremists. But whatever we can about bad. Not. But that does not qualify you to be on the fed. And I think I will be surprised if the president Braves this storm and bushes him Republican Senator, okay? This is a problem. We asked you because John thune points out come on guys do your work before you put these people out here and put us in a horrible position. Right. And other words, take a hike Steve Moore. But my question to you is why do they have a vetting problem? Or did they know about this kind of stuff, and frankly, not care because women is not an issue this president cares about? No, I disagree with that. And I do think look if they if they vetted him and saw some of these and didn't think there would be completely problematic. Some are some aren't some people are going to be able to pooh-poohed and say it was done ingest or humor, some we're going to have some serious problems with it. And clearly, we know which ones those are are they hurdle that he could overcome. I do think he can it's not like Herman Cain where they were sexual abuse allegations. Or misconduct allegation. Coun-? Rob though, he says he wants to sit down and say, I am not. What was the exact words here? I'm just looking here. I'm not okay. When when he says, the male needs to be the breadwinner, and the reason you're saying they decline of the family, and it's happening in the white community is well, it's because women were economically self sufficient, and I I don't I don't understand rob. How one can recover from that. I was sitting at the C span. So wasn't a joke. That's a. I mean, that's a focus on the family. That's a that's a kind of right wing, mainstream right-wing point of view. But that's really not something. Economists should be advocating overlooking. We're making it sound like every. No wonder there's a gender gap sent rally feminist group of Choi choice don't pass through the violence. That's mount. Do you think that a guy can sit down, and yes, sure, he's he's a likable guy in person people suddenly say, okay, you know, water under the. I think they're going to be more. They want to explanation on what he has written in what he meant. But they're going to they're going to want more information on what his policies would be. And that's what he'd be doing on the fed to say that the Federal Reserve Board nominees of both parties are not political is a joke. Every one of those air every one of those appointees came through the system came through their party. And there's a reason they got the plummets to Plum picks. It's because they donate it to the party or the president. It's because they've come through the party, and they've known people. So it shouldn't be any different for someone like Stephen Moore. Take put aside for a second the things that he wrote it shouldn't be any different that he was picked because he's been bombed in conservative party politics. They sometimes buck their president though. Let's just say that. All right. Thank you. All okay next. Breaking news. The Washington Post reporting Robert Muller took issue with the Torney general Bill summary and told him directly. That it failed to capture the quote, Tom Tech's nature and substance of his investigation. This is just breaking at this hour, obviously, a hugely significant development that reporters who broke that is out front next and the debate over reparations picking up steam in the democratic primary. Cash payouts. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. Breaking news. Robert Muller raised concerns to the attorney general to Bill bar, and he raised those concerns about the letter member of the bar letter. Right. And Muller said that the bar letter claimed the principal conclusions of Muller report. Right. You remember that that was the letter according to the Washington Post says Muller told bar and his own letter that the depiction of his findings in that bar memo failed to capture the quote, context nature and substance of the Mueller probe out front. Now. One of the Washington Post reporters who is breaking the story tonight, Matt's epitaph ski and CNN Justice department. Correspondent Laura Jarrett, Matt. So tell me what you know, when when how Muller did this when give us the details as you have them. Yeah. You have to flesh back to kind of late March. When Muller ends his investigation, and then a couple of days later, Bill Barr rights, four page letter to congress that just lays out molars principal conclusions than those by bills Baras telling our Muller couldn't find coordination between Trump and Russia, and he didn't come to a conclusion on obstruction. And that's it. I think there were two quotes from the Muller report. So in the days after that, we're still in late March Muller writes, a letter so Bob Muller to Bill bar saying for all intents and purposes, you've mischaracterized my work in this really jeopardizes public faith in the investigation. This summary is in fair, they ended up having a phone call hashing this out even more Muller. Very importantly wants to release more information. They don't do that. And you know, but. Eventually more information is released. Okay. So he writes a letter to bar, and then there's a conversation a phone conversation where they actually speak. Okay. Now. I know you you have a lot more of the letter. So the letter that again, this is a letter Muller rights to bar. Also says quote, there is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation this threatens to undermine the central purpose for which the department appointed the special counsel to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations. Matt could you just lay out how unprecedented of a move? This is to come from Muller. Right. Who who's never speaks never says? I wanna talk in a second about the significance is about that. You're learning about it now. But just I the fact that he sent this letter that he said bar was mischaracterizing that he talked to him on the phone. How significant is that? So Muller is just so buttoned up. He barely said. Anything over the course of his prohibition one time, he kind of emerges to dispute a BuzzFeed story. So anytime molar says anything. He thinks about it at great length. And it's of great consequence. And he surely knows putting this down in a letter is going to memorialize it. This is going to become a part of history, and he's for all intents and purposes, disputing how Bill bar has cast his work. I mean, everyone can kind of read his full report now and come to their own conclusion. But it's just a remarkable thing for a guy who is so chain of command. So by the book to go to go outside and kind of question his boss like what are you doing? And do it on paper in a way that he knows it's going to become public. He knew that would eventually happened. So what do, you know, Matt bars response when he gets this letter, and obviously then you know, who chose to follow up the phone call or what happened, but what was bars response. So this is just different people's perspectives. Right. But from the Justice department perspective from Bill bars perspective, he is taken aback. He offered Muller by his account. He offered Muller the chance. To review that four page letter that he sent to congress and Muller decline the opportunity to do. So so Bill bar the way it's described to us tonight is thinking of Benchley, I'm going to release this report. Everything's good. And then he gets this letter and is shocked like oh my gosh. I didn't realize there was this level of discontentment. He then calls Muller. I think as I described before and they talk it out Muller than wants to release the executive summaries for people who've read the report, there's these pretty extensive some are getting of each section roller wants to release those and even suggest some redaction. So it's easier to do but Bill bar doesn't want to do that. He still wants to proceed on course to releasing everything at once. And eventually, that's what happens just a couple of weeks ago. Do you have any idea Matt as to why so Muller is obviously feels that bar misrepresents the nuance. This he he he feels that way. But you're saying bar gave him the opportunity to review the ladder, the bar, summary and Muller didn't take do. You know, why? Why why Malar didn't take it? I don't know. Why Muller didn't take it? I mean, certainly the way the process would normally work. It's the attorney general's kind of decision on what to tell congress, and maybe molar at as we've talked about he's so by the book, he's so chain of command. He figures Bill bars, my friend. He's a Justice department veteran. He's going to handle this the right way. Then it's handled in a way Muller. Clearly feels is the wrong way. And he has to interject. But you know, I'm really just speculating now, I don't know specifically why molar declines that opportunity one final question team at when he takes issue with how bar summarized it. Do you know any specifics as to specific things that he thought were mischaracterize was it all obstruction wasn't on. How collusion was characterized or do, you know any of those specifics? Yes. So for him personally. We don't really know what's beyond the letter and what we've reported in our story. But before this we had reporting that members of his team were frustrated particularly with the characterization on obstruction. They've felt the. Case they laid out. There was so much more damaging and compelling than Muller couldn't make a decision which is how Bill bar describe it. So that was particularly frustrating to members of his team. But as far as what is on molars mind, personally, really only know what is in this letter. All right, Matt, thank you very much. Obviously a hugely significant development in this story. I appreciate your taking the time. Obviously, I want to go. Now, we've got we've got a lot of people here to talk through this because this is an important development. Former Nixon White House counsel John dean joins me on the phone. I John what's your reaction to Matt? And his teams reporting again Muller telling bar the depiction of his findings by bar and that letter failed to capture the quote, context nature and substance of the Muller probe. Pretty devastating report, particularly on the eve of are going to congress to have to testify on this very subject tomorrow before the Senate Judiciary committee. He's going to be grilled he'd better be prepared. Because it's clear he was spending. What the special counsel? Did. He didn't do it accurately. The special counsel has called him on it. And he'd better have some very good answers by tomorrow morning. So. Bar obviously accused of misleading congress when it came to the principal conclusions on another matter. Right. When he was was the. On the central issue of. And I know Matt said it could be because he's by the book. Right. But bar writes the summary. He gives her the chance to review at Muller does not then Muller doesn't like it. And proceeds with his own letter. Why do you think Muller chose to not read it? I think that it was clearly under the regulations his requirement to turn the report over his report to the attorney general, and then for the attorney general's deal with it accordingly, and when the attorney general's dealt with it publicly and inaccurately he called him on it. And apparently from the reporting not only was bar surprise. But the people in the department of Justice were somewhat skunked by the by the result of the special counsel calling the attorney general they realized that he had probably misrepresented their work. And and and now they were involved in this whole mess so bar is spending this he's taking it looks like he's ready to take a bullet for the president on this issue. He's let the president off Scot free. And that's clearly what is the the findings of the special counsel report. We know now. Particularly on the especially on the obstruction close, Paul. Yes. So so when they then have this follow up phone call. According to MATT BAHR, then calls Malar when he gets this ladder and says, you know, we need to talk and Muller says let's put out the principal conclusions which as accurately points out when you look at the long, they are incredibly detailed. They do bullet point. They give you a lot and bar still says, no even though according to Matt Muller suggested at that time reductions that he would include with those principal conclusions. Why would Bill bar say no to that? He wants to continue the spin in fact, Aaron when you're when you have a chance to read the reporting on this on the next step on how now the Justice department is characterizing this whole incident. They're spending it again that it's no big deal that these are two old friends that they're going to get it. Right. And that isn't what's happening at all. And and he's going to have to answer better than he has with further spin. Because Muller is someday going to be testifying on this as well? All right. Let me now. Go to the house speaker democratic congressman from New Mexico. Ben right, Luhan, congressman good to have you your reaction to this reporting from the Washington Post. Bob Muller says Bill Maher got it wrong till bar. Sorry. This is both concerning and not surprising air. This is the problem when Bill bar access the personal attorney to the president as opposed to the attorney general. Of the United States of America. And tomorrow, there's going to be a lot of very important tough questions that have to be asked. And that must be answered. But it also shows the urgency of why the attorney general must also testified before the United States house of representatives before chairman, Jerry, Nadler, and the judiciary committee. Why do you think this is coming out tonight? Right. I mean, this didn't just happen yesterday. Muller's had this issue. They had this phone call is this happened. But obviously Bill is testifying again tomorrow. So well. There's obviously it would appear very fair to ask. If there's a method to the timing of this information coming out. Well, you know, one thing that I always appreciate his good journalism as well and good investigative reporting and ever we're able to be fortunate to learn the important stories of what must be told that matters. But I think we'll probably find out tomorrow morning, maybe a little bit more as to why the timing of this. But nonetheless, this is important for the American people to find out and those are the merits should be talked about. So should Democrats impeach Bill bar? Well, I think that Jerry Nadler, the chairman of the judiciary committee has said that there are a lot of important questions that need to be asked. And what is concerning? Now is that the attorney general has lied to congress not just once but on several occasions, and once we get to the bottom of the attorney general whether it was misleading the congress intentionally based on the conversation and the reporting with the special counsel. Miller's concern with the summary of. The reason you're not going there yet you just want. You want answers before you go there. I'm not going there yet. But I'm telling you, this is very concerning when you have someone that has lied to congress not just once but on multiple occasions, and now there are questions being brought forward as to the intentions associated with that letter. We need to get to the bond with. All right. So the ladder the judiciary committee chairman, Jerry Nadler, who of course, would oversee any possible impeachment proceedings has just tweeted about the Washington Post report in which he says Muller has written a letter objecting. Debare summary of his report because it did not bully capture the context nature and substance of the investigation. Right. That's the quote from Muller's ladder Tobar, Nadler rights. I have demanded the ladder and bar must answer for this Muller. Must be allowed to testify is that now going to be the number the number one, focus and battle for you all that you want Muller to testify. Well, again, I fully support our chairman Jerry Nadler with his approach, and when he has been doing with the investigations, and Jerry has been abundant. Lee clear that both of them should be in front of the committee to testify, and I think it's imperative now that we identify where these lies are coming from. And who was misleading the congress and get them before the judiciary committee as soon as possible. So you are at the White House today, you're with the president that was that meeting on infrastructure, and look there were a lot of nice things that were said that was before this report here are some things Nancy Pelosi Chuck Schumer said when they came out of that room. We just had a very productive meeting with the president of the United States was goodwill in this meeting. We agreed on a number which was very very good two trillion dollars for infrastructure. All right. Is that all now that ancient history now? Absolutely not. It was a very productive meeting that we had on infrastructure that took place at the White House today, and I came out optimistic that we can put together a bipartisan deal with investment infrastructure across the country, but we have many responsibilities. Invest president and not impeaching him. I am still looking at working to pass it infrastructure package that will create jobs across America. While congress also takes its constitutional oversight responsibility serious on behalf of the country. All right can do both. Thank you very much. I appreciate your time comes from Luhan daycare and next. Our breaking news coverage continues. We are just learning. New details about Muller's objections to bars a summary. What were they specifically plus just coming in new pause from Democrats for bars? Resignation twenty twenty candidate will in caster awaiting. I saying he must resign or face impeachment. The case is we gotta find who wrote this. No, we do that. We find the killer. This science defined out. Police used Luminol a chemical which glows when it comes into contact with the iron component in blood that drama, but where was the rifle, and which man was telling the truth for renchik files. The legendary true crime show is now a podcast. Join investigators as they take on the toughest cases with cutting edge scientific tools. Subscribe now with apple podcasts with new episodes every Monday and Thursday, you'll never miss out on getting your forensic fix. Breaking news CNN now learning Robert Muller complained to Bill bar directly about the attorney general's letter the summary in which he described especial council's principal conclusions of his report, the Washington Post. I report that Muller wrote a letter to bar in which he said in part there is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation. This threatens to undermine essential purpose for which the department appointed the special counsel to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations. Of course, the letter also said that bar failed to capture the quote, context nature and substance of the Muller probe out right now. Our Justice correspondent Laura Jarrett. So obviously, this is a huge development. What are you learning as to why what was it that Muller objected to in bars for page, distillation or summary? Well, Aaron for weeks, we've heard Democrats complain about that four page letter saying that mischaracterized some of Muller's findings and generally just unhappy with how he rolled it out. And of course, the press conference that came afterwards. Sort of putting the president in the best possible. Rosy picture people have been very critical for how the attorney general has ruled that out. But we're now learning that it was the special counsel that also had misgivings about bars for page summary and thought that it didn't fully capture the full nuance of what we all saw in those four hundred and forty eight pages, obviously, it's very hard to distill hundreds of pages into a four page summary, despite the attorney general trying to do that over the course of that one weekend. And we're learning that not only did he write a letter to the attorney general, but he also had a follow up conversation. The next day with him where he said, look the press coverage here is misleading and inaccurate, and it's not fully capturing the full scope of my findings. And so it's really exposing the rift between these two men who have known each other for a very long time. But also, I am told by senior Justice officials. That bar has been frustrated about the fact that Muller did not reach a conclusion on obstruction. So there is certainly issues on both sides here. All right, Laura. Thank you. I want to bring in Jen. Psaki White House communications director for President Obama Bill Kristol editor at large the bulwark, founder of the weekly standard. David Gergen adviser to four presidents and still with me mats, Petoskey of the Washington Post to of course, I broke this story, David what's your reaction to this? This this news that Muller says you did not get it. Right. Bill bar. Version prize. I would've thought that there had been complete coordination between the two sides. You know, Bill bark testified, I believe that. I believe it was testimony. But he has said that he offered Muller a chance to review the his his document before it was published and and also talk about the reductions and that didn't happen. So to some extent, you know, would say months, Billy, if there were differences, the breasted on and he didn't wanna get involved having said that you know there. There's no question the Mahler letter gives ammunition to those bit skeptical about bar and about what how he was analyzing report mission Bill or or more. Does this change the game? You heard Luhan, right? He was he didn't take any avenue. He was given here on on impeachment. But but this is not a small development this special counsel saying I spent eighteen twenty months of of this country's time. And money. And what you said I said is not what I said when serious Sturdy's try to be impartial bread, the mall report, putting aside bars letter and boys press conference, they have said while there is at least inviting congress to consider impeachment on the obstruction issue. I mean, these not telling them to do it. He leaves it open. That's Congress's judgment to make. And I think bar did six even coloring things. Sufficiently may be that the Democrats very timid that kind of obvious statement that look we at least have to consider this. We're going to have other hearings record say the word impeachment. But I do now think they are going to have to think seriously. I think it is Muller is basically saying look, I knew what I was doing when I laid out these ten charges of obstruction and for Bartik include ahead of time that it didn't mean obstruction, and then to color the way he did and his press conference was wrong. I don't think they'll be a lot of fighting about Bill bar. But that also is going to be a sideshow. This affects Trump fundamentally and one last point certainly or spoke to the White House before writing is four page letter. Don't we know that I believe we do and he spoke to. Them before his press conference. So it's not like bar is acting. It's highly absent from having consultations perhaps with maybe not the president directly or maybe the president directly. So I do think this puts the question of impeachment legitimately leaving aside. Politics front and center for the congress and front and center. And Jan yet. You hear Bill use the word committee. And it's in a sense. It's a fair word. They've got all kinds of reasons for it. But you are not hearing it from leadership. And you know, they got it. They have to digest this now to your congressman Luhan. Right. It was he he wasn't ready to do it. That's true. But I do think that's because their objective even in leadership as too late. The public ace they know that the public is not with them or with the supporters of impeachment at this point. They know they have worked to do to kind of bring the public with them on making the case. And this is the kind of letter followed by Muller testifying which I expect they're going to step up their asks for and their public pushes for that will help them make that case publicly. Especially on the of course, on the obstruction piece. So some Matt I obviously you can't divulge your sources in any way. But could you can text July's us. Why you think this is you know, you've been working in this a long time. But you get this information. Now, the motive of why this is perhaps happening now that you're you're able to get this information. We'll look the thing. I would say on that is that Moeller put this down in writing. This was gonna come out when you do that, you kind of keep book on somebody keep book on your thoughts that you know, it's going to come out Bill bar has right now to congressional hearing scheduled this week tomorrow and the next day if the next day one actually happens, this is something that's certainly going to come up. But those I'm not sure if it would come up before we had reported or not it will certainly come up. Now, though, I think that's about all I can say that that is for sure look this is this is going to be an innocent to seismic shift in terms of the questioning, right? It's no longer people as Bill built. You know, relying on lawyers and interpretation it is now the special counsel himself saying, yeah, I meant something different. All right. Thank you all very much. And our breaking news continues. Stay with us. I'm Biagio Messina. And I'm joke seen we are the producers behind the H N television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explore the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James, Di Angelo the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelfth subscribe today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Breaking news CNN learning tonight that Robert Miller Robert Muller took issue with attorney general Bill Vars summary of his investigation sources are telling us that Muller told the attorney general that is initial four page summary of the report did not accurately fully capture the nuance. The substance the context of the four hundred forty eight page report, David Gergen is back and David you think this completely changes the discussion on Capitol Hill. I do not that it leads to impeachment directly via their of the president. Or in fact, they Bill bar. I think it gives though it gives a democrat. I lot stronger position the munition to push now to take their investigation to get Bill bar up there to testify under scrutiny and to get the other documents they need to push forward with this investigation. I think this gives them a lot more strength to do that. And that does change the dynamics David Goggin. Thank you so much and thanks to all of you for joining us as this story develops tonight ahead of bars. Testimony tomorrow, obviously going to change that perhaps completely AC three sixty begins right now.

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"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach ibm helps retailers manage supply chains with watson. Ai while predicting demands with these the world is going hybrid with ibm visit ibm dot com slash. Hybrid cloud drop step. Oh my goodness me. York is the necker basketball. Zion couldn't stop smiling when asked about new york and he said a whole lot more than that. So what does it mean. We will discuss time to call the fire department though on steph curry. Is he first team all nba this year projected top three pig jalen suds zero. The jumped hang out. Shit he go number one will he have the chance to and the blazers rolled out. The red carpet allows the rim again. All that and more coming up on the welcome indeed to the jump. I'm rachel nichols robert. Ory matt barnes are going to be joining me. Shortly gonzaga's jalen suggs will also join us later in the show coming up we're gonna talk about bam on bio sunk a game win up against the nets yesterday have the he reached their turning point in the season. We will discuss that shortly as well. But i i am now joined by our senior. Nba insider adrian words in ascii. Thank you so much for being here wash. I i want to ask you about your story from yesterday. Serious topic that matters to so many people around the league. We have a potential verdict. Coming up this week in the derek chauvin trial for the murder of george floyd in minneapolis. How is the league preparing for this. Since so many people players staff members everyone involved in the game. This is so important rachel. The league over the last several days has reached out to all thirty teams to to have them be vigilant. Be prepared for the possibility that there could be gained postponements this week based on the verdict and the aftermath of that if there are protests if there are a number of circumstances that could dictate you know that games for perhaps one or even two days are played now. The minnesota timberwolves a game postponed last week with the nets. They made it up a day later. They're on the road the entire week there on a four game seven day trip that they started against the clippers last night but but certainly The league is vigilant on this and and they've been in close contact with teams and and and ultimately you know we'll wait and see what happens once verdict comes back well. Hopefully the verdict will be one. That doesn't require. Mass people amounts of people to go into the streets in protests. We hope that justice will be done to ask you also about kevin durant after. He exited yesterday's game in the first quarter with a thigh injury with the update on his status. Well the nets just wanted to see rachel how he felt today coming back in. You know typically with that kind of bruise. The -ticipant some days. Sometimes it may hurt more the next day and then they would start to take his return to play from there and how long it's going to be but there was no expectation that this was going to keep him out free significant Timetable that this was going to be a day to day injury. You know so. He came in to do his treatment. They were on the road. They play in new orleans tomorrow and so they're just kind of working through with him and There's no sense that this is a significant injury. Rich good news for nets fans all right with tease this off the top of the show. But now i want to play the full response from zion williamson when he was asked about playing in madison square garden yesterday. Take us glad you asked that actually I mean york is the mecca of basketball I love. I love playing. I love playing here My played hair college and this is my first time playing the pros. I mean this is atmosphere. You know whether they're cheering for you. Whether a blown for you it's amazing Honestly i think outside of new orleans obviously Dailies might be my favorite place to play outside of new orleans. I can't even. I can't allowed to just with a small percentage of the fans that are usually in the building allowed in the building. How are people around the league reacting to those comments from zion. Yeah i think you get your attention with zion williamson. Because he's always pretty careful with what he says he's He's always pleasant. He's always talkative. But in this case it was clear even said at the beginning. Hey i'm glad you asked that question And he was ready to respond to it Listen certainly i think when you're a small market team like new orleans you know that ultimately there's gonna come a time where you're going to have to fend off big markets for your star players. And so they have a window of time here really three years before he could three plus years before he could potentially leave as an unrestricted free agent dino to be winning to be having to have a great relationship with him to show that all the outside endorsement things that you want are available to you in new orleans. We've seen in history whether you're a small market or big market. The big deals and got a huge shoe deal coming out of school. So those are all the things you have to be working on but certainly He was pretty animated with it. And and it'll it certainly something. I think down the road for people to keep their eye on but right now know he's in new orleans he's going to be new orleans and they have a window here with the young core. They have to improve. Get better and and make him want to stay there. Excellent thanks so much for joining us doug off too far. We'll see you back later in the show. I want to turn my attention. Though to these guys here sitting next to me zion calling madison square garden quote his favorite place to play and the Besides neurons he put that in there i would like to welcome in seven time champ. Robert ory two thousand seventeen champ. Barnes what was your reaction mark. Matt you were watching that sound and you said on the set. You said he's jeevan i mean. I think the details you tells you everything and this is like test on this. Small market trouble will always looney small-market teams This is probably be inevitable and an nfl. The northern france them thinking again. Okay tang we lost. We lost chris. Paul day we lost. Anthony davis zion is the next face of the franchise that you know and i'm sure pelican's fans hate to hear this. I hope he stays. But i don't see him in his career in new orleans because of you know these small teams never never really get over that hump and you talk about. They can offer them the absolute max. But when you're getting much money off the court that kinda balances out if you know you go to. New york market arenella market. You're gonna make all that up so it's just tough being a small market team so enjoy what you have for me. I think he should just take a book. A jaanus this page. This is your team trying to grow this team. I know you enthusiast about places like new york. I was in tuesday's plays like like the form when you watch him as a kid. You how these places you wanna play. I guarantee to form mean. The madison square garden was the place he wanted to plan now. He's accomplished that weeks. Bags is okay now go to staples. They got a nice room. Go over here to another really got a hold on madison square garden. What is all cracked up to be. Had a rain delay by and this is not the mecca of basketball anymore. That's what you got it fires. I'm from alabama california to meal. Is the basketball now. Because there's so many great guys that come out of california they don't get the recognition that these should but new york is still great. Don't get me wrong but it's not. It's changed so zion. Stay in new orleans sa- great city guy. Who's just one franchise. Only i think the energy says it all you. He's cheese in the whole entire time. So i'm scared that more. Deluded to teams have seven years of a guys rates rate when they draft him seven years so there is a long time to have a player in your system to sell him on your organization. So a guy like you can decide. Hey you know what. I want to sign that supermax and stay. I think that's a fair shot. And if zion decides after that time that he wants to move on that is up to him. But you can't say that new orleans wouldn't have gotten a chance with him personally. It is my favorite city in america. I've said this a million times. I hope he has piano. Winds up studio there but that's neither here near future. Katie listed off his top five teammates. We'll discuss that in just two minutes. Good you knows the importance of keeping momentum as you head down the stretch. Momentum starts with movement. It's pulled from the air like a contested. Rebound momentum builds with steals and fast breaks and is proven by deep threes as the shot clock expires momentum. Ms how we changed the game and now it's time to discover where it can take us goodyear more driven so kevin durant was a guest on the million dollars worth of game podcast and asked to name his top five teammates. He said kyri. James harden steph curry and klay newell internet chatter about him initially not having rest books name at the tip of his lips. Come on guys. He people russia in there. So let's let's get past that. Who would be your sixth man. Katie's best teammates list. That's a tough question right there. Because he did address and you saw everyone tried to hate because some you edited to where he didn't say russell media drama man six man. That's hard to say. I mean i. Maybe clay russ always six-man so on this list maybe nia probably that he lead lifted cerezo surge. Probably the sixth man. But that's a hell of a three all the famous. I'm going to remind need someone a little nasty. You got very mono did he anybody on. Hi kevin durant has played on good teams with good players. There you go guys. Wanna play with kevin durant. Hey there. I'm julie foudy from podcast. Laughter permitted in. We've been teamed up with ally from day one of our podcast in fact i'm a customer and that's because ally wants to help you save your money well so you can grow it well and spend well on whatever makes your little soul sing. And that's why they're committed to helping you do right by your money. So we'll get started visit ally dot com to learn more. What a weekend. It was guys for the heat. Overall they lost to the timberwolves on friday. Minnesota remember has the worst record in the league. Jimmy butler not happy very upset. After the game he was critical of the team. Wrote down how he would like bam to approach opposing defenses. Take a listen. This was friday just being soft. That's it nike. And the bodies scared us contact soft over bam to attack ramp because nobody can stay in front of nobody there. Though you're gonna get out you're going to somebody that's cool. I love him shoe. Midrange jump shots too but he lets people off the hook and he played bullied liked volleyball. Jimmy was old school. Talk there. I wanna make it clear when you're talking about soft at the beginning of that sound who's talking about the whole team that was not about fam- the vampire though was about the end saying. Hey you gotta go bully ball. Don't hit those mid-range jumpers and of course it goes and hits the mid range against the nets that won the game. Which i'm sure jimmy was fine but do you think that like hard talk and we know the jimmy is not afraid to say anything right. That kind of time made a difference in that. We have seen a turning point robert with the heat. Jim is a type of guy who can inspire you by his words a lot of times when certain guys say what jimmy said he just talking. Noises is blowing smoke. But jimmy can back it up. Because he says i'm gonna go and lead by example and he's the type of guy there's going to be put the ball and say look. This is what i did see. How effective. I m see why i'm c. Get paid the big bucks. Follow my lead. I think bam is one of those guys who can do both be finesse and bully ball because he has the town to do whatever you want. On the court i think rob perfectly. He's one of those lead by example leader. So when you speak that means more. A lot of guys are lip-service jimmy. Is your best player going out there and diving similar kobe. Kobe wasn't much of a talker. Kobe was more. Follow my lead typing. So when he spoke he listened so i definitely understand what he's saying This team goes as jimmy go so you know they've had some spurts so we think are they turning the corner. They've had a couple of different moments issue and they have initially turned the corner in seventh spot right now but we all know if this team gets hot in the playoffs. What can happen. This team has the experience they've been there. They've done that so they gotta get to the playoffs and kind of figure it out. So we'll see how this plane situation works. But you know this is always a dangerous team. Jimmy leading such a tough season for them right. There with the lakers is the shortest turn around in the league and then wrecked by cova. They had covert ripped through the team as well. They've had injuries. So i'm not shocked at the end of the season like that they were gonna find themselves in the bottom. Half of the playoff bracket will be interesting though of harsh words from jimmy butler and some inspire play by obama to is a one two punch over the weekend that gets them. Starting amen to that coming up we're going to have gonzaga's jalen suggs joining the jump. He's got a little announcement to make friends. I'll give you just you three guesses. I'll just give you one. Guess because if you can't get it in one ear. You're not paying attention to basketball. We'll ask him about the shots. That was well. You know which one there to stick around jalen tugs on the other side of the break. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save it. Geico easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. Welcome back to the jump wo does back with robert matt and myself and let's take a look at the upcoming nba draft july twenty ninth right here on espn. The twenty twenty one class is loaded friends and our next guest rising up the espn plus mock draft board. All the way up to the therm spot now on the heels of his incredible final four shot. You remember what i'm talking about if you don't hear this tied at ninety your tub sucks anti one step. Closer ristori defeated national championship. I watch that a hundred times jalen. Welcome to the job. You're coming to us from minneapolis. Right nice well welcome here. I know you have an announcement to share with us. Please share your message. i Now i wanna you know bef- right now say anything touch on you know everything that's going on here at home you know and the killing dante. Right you know sometimes for our city right now Especially with child dare chopping going on and A lot of hostility. And you know. Really chaos Man i mean it's hard to be. It's hard to see again. You know continuing happened over and over and You know. I'm ready to know bring action you know. There's been a lot of statements and now a lot of worries me and say about people You know i'm ready to play actions behind those words now and and get to work on making a change and real difference So yeah before anything. I wanted to touch on that and and you know so my support. I'm so glad you said that. And obviously when you get to the nba you see the platform that these pros have the what you can do. And the strength of your voice and actions is so enormous dec- you wanting to take that on even before you get there jalen. It really speaks well of you. I do want to congratulate you on an amazing freshman season atkins saga. And you're here now to talk about your next chapter what's going on. Yes thank you I will be Enter my name Into nba draft Silent agency Super excited I can't wait to take this This next step in my journey. Something i'll jimmy about since i've been a little kid And it'd be here now is surreal. And i'm ready to get on jalen. That's incredible Jalen congratulations on The decision this next chapter for you know your father. Larry told me that you're playing against fourth graders when you were in kindergarten. You're playing against sixth-graders when you were in the second grade and obviously it gonzaga here. You had an older team that you lead. How do you think that might help you when you get to the nba and then at nine thousand nine hundred twenty as a point guard you are asked to lead you know older players from that from that point guard position I mean. I think it's helped me alive. You know going into the locker room Kind of commanding vets and being that presence that they can look at it and you know leadership and things like that i think is a quality that is built inside of you It's something that i've been practicing since. I've been a little kid You know coming up playing always order competition and with older guys in Is something that i feel. I can come in even on the young New rookie to the league in our can be someone their locker room who leads by example And is ready to go put in. You know all the work for the team for the organization now in for whatever city You know i'll be joining jalen. Congratulations on the decision. But i have a question. I've been known to make a big shot a two so tell me exactly after you made that big. What was going through your mind. I heard all about big shot. Rob oh man. I was super excited It's a real because those are ones win. Now you're in the gym messing around doing shots pretending to be mess around with your buddies and you know these are the moments that you live out and taxi president. One of those and no to live out that dream You know that. I've always had since a kid. It was it was surreal and again i just remember going straight towards the table. That was the first thing on my mind and Getting up there and celebrate. And so i might be the other one jay. How're you doing matt bars. I might be the only one on this panel. That wasn't happy about that show. I was down my bruins. I that we're going to take a magical run but again. Congratulations on your announcement The nba way to Excited which are going to do. But what would drew my attention to is you turn that shot into an nf t. I've got in this space race. The monster my first. Nfc tomorrow with ease Tell me wh- behind you. You're thinking and turning your shot into an nfc. Because i think it's a great idea I mean it's just a great marketing marketing opportunity. You know something that is one of one. can never be replicated again and No for it to be you know south around and in celebrated you know because it's it's an iconic moment honestly and especially moment not only me but you know a lot of people saying it's one of the best sides and ncaa you know march madness and things like that. So that's where all the words come. In in that image you know conic manageable March madness This shot you know things like that. So now i'm excited. I'm excited for Super choreographic in our work and Yeah so it's a big step for me time. The player can make money off of his actual work that he did in college. I'm very happy about that too. So congratulations there now. There's still a ton of nba basketball to be played before the draft lottery happens on espn june twenty seconds. Whereas you're kind of watching the slots kind of go around with your you hoping for. Are you more focused on. Where in the order you're picked or the city that picks you I think right now. I'm more focused on. You know just getting better and putting myself in the best position you know to be taking you know wherever they feel they feel i. Can't you know top top three top five lottery whatever. It is I'm excited for it. Not really watching it too much. You know just. It's real easy to get caught up in that stuff. Know watching the teams and things like that Because at the end of the day. I'm really excited just to go join you know then a and go be among and play against those guys night in and out that you know of idled since i've been a kid it's gonna be fine. You've got an exciting few months ahead. Jalen and again what you said at the top of the segman here so important. The nba is going to be very very lucky to have you. Thanks for coming on the show. Best of luck on draft night. We'll see you thank you. I appreciate it thanks. Thanks for joining us today as well coming up. We're gonna talk about steph curry because the man is on actual fire. Literal actual fire. Is he in contention for that all. Mba i team this year. Has its heavy. Those guards that guard that card slot is heavy competition. We'll discuss next first. Here's what the jump recommends for today is pm. mba power rankings. Sixers are on top and head over to the app to find out how the rest of the top ten welcome back to the jump. I'm rachel nichols hanging out with robert. Ory matt barnes gentlemen. Let's talk about steph. curry state. Hot with forty seven against the celtics are primetime game on saturday night. I gotta be honest. I was in the building for this one. I've seen so many great players and this still knocked my socks off afterward. Nick for dell. S steve kerr. How korea has been able to elevate his game in this reason stretch take a listen nikki's just stepped hurry so it's not just the skill level the confidence the bravado the willingness to fail in the And not think twice about it The goes sport every every time. Every play competes not afraid of failure and trust his his skill because he's worked his whole life. It's just that the peak of his power is really what felt like being in the building as great as he's being in the past. This is just a whole other level which seems impossible. We talk about all mba. There's a lot of competition for those two guard spots rate. So does steph get one of response robert. Yes he gets my. I guess my first part because the body of work he's doing right now. I know everybody. Will there nine playoff contention but hey it doesn't matter is putting in work. Got a great mind but my best guy out the him as damian. Lillard dame's game. I know everybody was talking about luke because he came in this season being the mvp candidate but daimler it gets forgotten about so much. Daytime is a real thing. You got to understand. This guy has made a clutch against every team in nba. Not many people can say that. So is my second guard. I completely agree with Rob on both fronts. Steph is first teen nine to me. dame is my my off-guard when it comes to that but you can think about. I think he's point one or point. Four off leading the league in scoring behind bradley. Beal eighth street Forty points over his last eight Ten straight thirty point games tying kobe for the oldest ever. Do past thirty three. So he's playing on another planet right now and i said at the beginning the season. We're going to get to see steph curry's version of james harden with james has been doing houston. The past few years have been incredible because he was the number one. Two and three option steph. Is that here with golden state. And he hasn't disappointed incredible and you played with him and obviously he had already won. Mvp the time you got there. You knew what kind of player he was. What surprised your. What did you learn from playing with him that you didn't know before you're on the same team his work ethic and the at the time he puts in before after practice real every single day off off-balance shots. He's taken steve. Nash used to have him and katie. You're doing these crazy. Spin around one footage shot but it was just working on balance working on both hands. I mean to see this guy shoot after practice was a pleasure like i would sit. Sometimes you just watch him shoot because there's just a he would shoot one hundred shots and maybe missed three or four of them in saying that's crazy and you're guy who played with kobe bryant work ethic and you know sitting around watching shots him up at that and it's very impressive all right joel embiid also had a rockstar season this year but it hasn't stopped him from doing great work off the court as well. He teamed up with covenant house. It's really important organization. It works combat homelessness especially among teens younger people and an earned him the nba community. Assist award that was announced. Today we talked about it briefly. Take a listen. Congratulations joel community assist award. Why house what about that particular group that made you feel like yeah that's right instead innovation device. It's been it's been on my mind for a long time But i was. I was Driving you know weeks ago and it was cold in the winter and and i'm just driving and then i see You know there was a homeless people and it was very cold. And then i'm like and i've been thinking about it for a long time but tom adopt point of the stop light hours. Just slide ozzy possible that lie. Was it okay that a human being should go through. This is so-called. Like none of us. Should i should be outside and you know be dealing with this and then started taking a while. I've been thinking about this for a long time. Live really time to you. Know do something about it and So i texted. You know ma people and i told him that you know Not wanting to do something and then also thinking about you. Know families in general Because you know families When able to walk and make money So you know just you know buying strays you know taking care of the And obviously you know helping homeless people stay incredible incredible mission. You guys play the next recently. You play the box. It really feels like you guys and those two teams there's gonna be a rumble to get on the east. Do you have confidence that you can be anyone who is in her path on that journey or you know for sure we got We got a lot of pieces. Any starts on defense You know. Regatta gra defender in ben. Nah he's coming off the bench Tomasz has been underrated all season Danny green is always been a great defender me in the middle You know controlling the pain and making sure no one gets in the auto show blocking shots. sought they bass where We focus on. And that's why the advantages Because we can switch and We can just lock the anybody and then offensively We got a lot of weapons but Amid i'm not going to be cocky but we've got you know one guy this you could say almost ungovernable if you want son god and your. I'm not sure we can guess but and you know and we can use his gravity to also create double teams and get guys wide wide-open shots so we got a lot of pieces that we've got a great coaching staff. Thanks for taking the time and again covering houses just wonderful group. I implore to check it out coming up next. How worried are robert and matt about the leaves injury kevin durant though circle back on that time here on the jump all right. The kings snapped a nine game losing streak with a win over the mavericks sunday. The per five games back in the plan. Can they make a run matt though. He's really come into his own. As run the young bright superstars with these small market teams. I know they have some movement in the front office now. But it's all about drafting and trading because you're not going to get the big free agent so You know. Luke walton out there in the air and fox. But i don't see much out of this team. I totally agree. Matt is kings team is nice but they're not that nice little more mature and do as a team because they're young and they just not ready for the playoffs yet and i'm not even ready for play in playoffs yet visiting from that team. What else would you like to see. Besides donna's having been drafted there. Anyway what do you think. The guys store another superstar. Go dan fox right but you can't as drivers point. It's unlikely not saying it can't. It's unlikely that right now as constructed they would track that in free agency. So just looking. You would think what a great coach luke. In shock being part owners that they will find some way fan base yes new arena new that guy great fans you get somebody but it's hard though one of the commercials that that was actually one of the toughest places i've ever played a great crowd out there fan base. They rally around that team. But it's just been. It's been a stroke but jeff petri back in the day was the guy that was able to bring in all those pieces web baby. Jay will all those guys and they just haven't had that gm that's been able to get out to go out there and get those Type players and then no key drafts. Outside of fox their draft picks really panned out. Yeah we're still waiting. I'm bagley to do what he's supposed to do. So very important to draft well in trade. Well when you're in a small market had the guy. okay. I'm gonna just. They've got fifteen games left on their schedule. Which means yes being five back in the plans they need to be just rick set their sights. Talk about lakers jazz. They face off again tonight after a really entertaining saturday afternoon ended appointing robert. Who needs tonight's win. More in the standings we're disabled at both of man. Because you got to think about it. We don't know what's happening with. Covert to fans in jazz needs to try to keep that number one spot of being a top leave because they get home court events and that's huge in the playoffs and the lakers need to be trained in the right way getting back into shape getting a d. bag lebron and learning a big penguin how to play system. So you gotta have this in order to not fall to that You know to me. It's more important for utah The the lakers have proven what they're gonna do and if they're the they're healthy going into the playoffs no matter what the are. They're still my favorite to me. Them in the clippers and my teams Coming out of the west. So i think more important futile. Well look los angeles was maybe hoping. Hey denver might fall in the standings. We can go up there but the denver nuggets have one two since jamal murray went down. So i don't know if that playoff positioning is gonna flip and if you're four five or five four the same series so i don't know where that matters also but look they're going to get anthony davis back at the end of this week scheduled. What difference do you guys think that's gonna make the team and we spoke on this show. I think we're gonna see the best big penguin once eight hundred both back. Because he's not necessarily someone you load up like a shocker digital laker. Big he's someone that plays off the energy of other guys. So i think we're gonna see a An amazing drum and once they get their their two stars back. I'm to me. We got to walk eighty back. You know because his envy to me scares me more than the bronze injury lebron just taking some time. He had missed a game all season. So he's just getting his bearings ready for the playoffs but to be able to get a d. Back in a rhythm and flow and staying healthy is very important for the lakers if from adm kind of like licking my chops when he does because we all know. Eighty has kind of changes game. We go into the whole as much now. If you got a big penguin on the other side just tearing up bores you can take these shots and also. I'm so excited to see him. And lebron and the pick and roll. Now you got lebron coming up. You gotta pay attention to the bronx and then you go over the top. Because you don't have that now when you had all the big from last season leave you know. We both know. Paul paul not gonna get that. So yeah that's your point and this is kind of old school basketball. He puts threat every time. You run a pick and roll because you have to tag him. So that's leave woman on the weak side and all on the weak side because andre drummond. If you don't tag him he's going to dunk or you know they're gonna throw him a lob so i think that's very important point that he brought up because you have to be concerned with their rolling being. You were Before this you know he's gonna get you ten offers a rebound huge playoff time. Frank vogel said they're gonna start out playing him and bursts. Don't expect to see the experience the minute he gets back. Because as you say man you want to be careful with that. Let's stay in l. a. The clippers have won eight of their last nine. They welcome back in the lineup on sunday. Matt are you more or less confident in the clippers at this point in the season than you were right before the playoffs last season. Because i just want to remind everyone. They were the favorites going into the playoffs. Last season in vegas in a lot of other places to this is a great place for the clippers to being. Because i'll speak. As former clipper we're not used to talking lending championship. you know. they've been able to stay under the radar. Paul george has been on a mission. He said after being in the season on our podcast. He's going to be on one of these at a chip the whole the whole season this carry over the place which i think you will rondo as a security blanket is going to make the difference for this team. My whole thing is you haven't won a championship. You should always have a chip. His whole teams have achieved. Because you know you got me clippers curse the donald sterling curse. If you go back to the years danny manning they get these guys. I was realized. Oh we would the clippers. We don't have own arena. We plan over here in compton and we plan over here l. now we in the staples center get your own arena. And maybe i would say by the way. They have one of the most proactive owners now and he is in fact building a new arena. The took a bunch of lawsuits to get still doing it. I agree with that sterling curse. One thing when i heard that bomb by the way great new the everything of donald sterling is left except the curse on a real note. I think they need to change their team with team name when they go to the new arena. Lead the clipper. Because what does the could've done. Anything clipper garbage behind. Get a completely and i love playing for them. The ad great time trying to prove prove our point getting there. But i think they need to just flush everything having to do with donald sterling including the name new arena new name and get get some good La love. i will say the clippers name isn't even about la right. It's from when they played in. San diego clipper ship. It's kind of ship so it was a history you before we go. I want to circle back to the play that not kevin durant out of the game. Yesterday against miami durant fell on a drive. It was a minute and a half and missed both free throws than exited about four minutes into the game now. He scored brooklyn i eight points. This was called a left thigh. Contusion are you concerned about an injury like this either in the short term with k. d. or just the fact that it's one more now stretch without them having everyone think katie's snake bit because you keep getting these envy's is even this might build a nagging each is still injury and i think back about Shack had this same. He's still has a hole in his staff and where he got injured. I had the same thing. You gotta understand that injury right above your kneecap. Here is all about you. Leave your leg flexing having that momentum and stuff to explode and that's a very hard injury to have and i hope is not severe because katy's wanted the best basketball players you've ever seen play this game. They wanna see him out there. Quad contusions are serious. And i don't think people that's why we we're. I wanna know if you guys got to. We almost start wearing these football pesident because you get hit in the quad. That is serious but I talked to someone in his camp yesterday. They weren't very concerned. I think this is a day to day injury. He'll be back so hopefully he'll know he'll be ready for the playoffs for sure. And look i will say as a lay person i thought. Oh five bruce. Whenever that's interesting that it really looks like everything else. Yeah i am not worried. About how many games. These guys have played together before the playoffs. Because you were just talking about it. Kevin durant has has had steve nash's coach long before they were both in brooklyn kevin durant. James harden played together a lot. They've played on olympic teams. Together that aspect. I really think they're going to be fine and look at this chart when only two of them are playing. They're still twenty six all right this just in at the buzzer we just learned. Nba free agency will start six o'clock eastern on august second signings official at twelve. Oh one eastern august six. You are looking at notable free agents right now so matt. Which is the player that is going to really set the tone and free agency now. Chris paul i think might have a player option. We expect him to keep so. I'm not sure there. Same with hawaii leonard. But he we don't know about his player option. He has not said whether he's going to pick it up or not. I don't think he's he's a person's gonna keep everyone suspense and i think the the you know the youngest most productive two time champ final. Nbp on that list. So i think a lot around. You know what he's going to do. I like demar derozan. Because he's angry. he's hungry he has warning. You think about it. He's been so close in toronto. He leaves then they win a championship. So i think the modules is the one that i would go out to special because he just wants to and he's guy that can give you forty without shooting a three chris stein an extension and finish and famous book because he i know he really likes it out there so well it's funny. I mean that final year of his contract next year was the thing that was supposed to begin with so much money. It was supposed to be the quote anchor around. His neck means that he would never be successful again after he got traded after houston. Guess what it's done pretty well for himself. That's one of my really rich friend right there when they go out. That's it for today. The jeff is back tomorrow three eastern. Cbs hey joe. What's your favorite podcast. Let me tell you why that'll be number two after you listen to mind three times a week. I'm going to challenge you to keep up with me. As i discuss topics from the latest in technology and music and people getting dogs. Also you'll get the very best. 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Hour 2: MLBPA Proposal

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Hour 2: MLBPA Proposal

"Back on get up and I just want to remind everyone that six years ago today. We had a moment that no-one should ever forget fifty cents throwing out the first pitch at city and not particularly well that you know in the annals of of really bad for his pitches that's got to be right up there. I mean that's that's so bad. It's almost impossible to put it into words. That's such a bad first. Pitch that other bad for his pictures. Insulted By being lumped in with it and I would describe it as a stunning moment where one that's certainly felt worth reliving for a little bit of a smile. We have a huge our coming your way and get up and it starts right now. Jalen rose and and Doris Burke is standing by. They are ready ready to go because it's time to get up with one. Nba superstar for wants to sit down if his team can't win at all busy alone and is he right. We'll answer those questions. Then these young quarterbacks have serious problems to deal with. Our quarterback has the solution or laskey on deck Baker and much much more man. Michael Jordan Dante says exactly what we thought once and for all actually happened while they say a Thomas and the Dream Team. You'll hear in this hour of get up which starts right now with get up and go. We're in the. Nfl Dolphins owner Stephen Ross. Oh CNBC yesterday. He thinks quote definitely will be football season this year. He also said his team is planning on having fans in the stadium at least as of now. Meanwhile the New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy has lifted restrictions on professional sports in that state setting the stage for among other things the giants jets to be able to host training camps at their facilities. This summer hockey. Nhl Commissioner Gary Bettman announced yesterday the League will forego the remainder of its regular season and jump straight into a two thousand fourteen playoff if they're able to resume play this summer. Postseason Games are expected to be played into hub cities with one for each conference. They've not named those yet. Here's how it will look five rounds. We'll be the structure for the playoff format the qualifying round. We'll see teams five through twelve facing off in a best of five. The top four seeds will play in a round robin to figure out the seating the first and second rounds. Figure out here depending on timing. How long those will be. But once they're down to the final four the conference finals and Stanley Cup final rule. Be A best of seven. The announcement was well handled yesterday now to the NBA where they're still working through potential scenarios. For what their season will look like if and when it is able to resume play all star Damian Lillard Portland Trailblazers are currently in ninth in the West. Three and a half games out of the final playoff spot. He had some interesting comments yesterday. Told Yahoo Sports quoth if we come back and they're just like we're adding a few games to finish the regular season and they're throwing us out there for meaningless games and we don't have a true opportunity to get into the playoffs. I'm going to be with my team because I'm part of the team but I'm not going to be participating. I'm telling you that right. Now we brought this up with Adrian Watson. Hausky an hour ago here on get up. They want to keep players on the court and to do that. They've got to create a scenario here. We're a team like Portland. Whose only three and a half games back from the eighth seed in the West along with a couple of other teams that they'll have an ability to get to the play offs and whether that's in a a a play tournament or a pool play scenario in addition to regular season games. That's going to be a motivator for teams to put their key players back on the floor. I comment he said Adam. Silver has heard what Damian Lillard said from a lot of people over the course of time. And if you're just joining US stores Burke has been with us all morning long and here's Jalen rose ready to go as well. Jalen what did you think of? What Damian Lillard set? I'm not surprised at all greeny? And that's why as we broached this topic. Recently I was trying to come up with scenarios based on a lot of the speculation that we heard that I felt like actually get majority. More fan base is involved in more players involved. That's why gave you those four reasons for items that I feel like the NBA should plan on bringing back on basketball this year. One twenty teams so now all of a sudden you have the third twenty one to thirty. Y'All go home congratulations. I had a great season. Y'All in the lottery cool next thing. Seven through ten playoff for Daimler. Lillard said look at the West. Look at the bottom of the West End. Is You got up? You Got Joh- You Got Dame you got Zion you gotta find a way to have them create some enthusiasm to bring back the league and see who's going to be in the playoff this not gonna be chalked this year. A squad like the Portland Trailblazers. I told you could get it in the first round and mess around and beat the clippers or the Lakers. We don't know. Lastly every series has to be seven games. So don't be surprised. Start to hear player. Say More of what Dame said and I WANNA make sure. I do a distinction. This is not what Blake Snail in Bryce Harper said in baseball they're vastly different. They were talking about the fact that their money wasn't right. They would not play. This is a professional who understands that this is my job and therefore I have an opportunity to further our goals did. I'm all in but for me to fly all the way from Portland to Florida. It has to be a reason for me to go out there on the court and risk my health physically playing but also clearly during the coronavirus pandemic that we're dealing with yes correct. That's an important distinction. And you're right. He didn't say anything about money. There haven't been any conversations to our knowledge. It's certainly not airing dirty laundry in basketball. The way they did doors spoke very eloquently about this earlier. So let me ask you a unrelated question while I have you because I brought this up the other day. Jalen is very much on my side and a lot of other people are as well as we figure out how they're going to do these playoffs. I like Jalen idea of a little play in. However you do what ultimately you're going to arrive at sixteen teams for the longest time. I've wanted to see the best teams wind up in the finals. And I've had Adam silver and many others tell me travel considerations of the reason that they continue to break it up between the east and the West. Well that isn't an issue if everybody's at Disneyworld so in your mind. Does this feel like a good opportunity for them to see the teams one through sixteen played out that way and see how it works. And maybe it's something they decide they like enough to keep it. Well the only team that would have an objection to that probably is the middle. Are the Milwaukee Bucks and I do believe it is the time to try it. Why Not Right? One through sixteen because travel is no longer part of the equation. I just want to go because I thought Jalen was eloquent. There himself and I told you in the first hour Mike that I believe because the primary consideration here should be minimizing risks while getting some resolution to the season when I read yesterday about potential pool play I would not go beyond twenty. It gives you a couple of advantages. It gives you number one. You know drama excitement and certainly more games more revenue an all of the players jalen mentioned to a potential to play games. I in a CETERA. They would be in the mix. The downside of that is. You're essentially saying the seventy five to eighty percent of the season. We've already played throw it out the window. And if I'm the Lakers clippers and bucks. I'm not happy about that. These are complex issues. But if in fact it's one it's a sixteen teams. I love the idea as a one off because the eastern conference owners will never vote for it long-term as they one off. Let's go one through sixteen. Eighty percent agree with you. Failing GO AHEAD. I totally agree with both of you guys. Because here's the thing we have to drum up enthusiasm for the start of the League and you won't as many players in as many fan bases engaged as possible. People are starving for sports when it return. Now you need some storylines we know. Lebron James is going to be the clippers are GONNA be there. You mentioned the bugs. The Janas is going to be there but the key to selling this the is to get as many people as possible if things like tournaments and pool play in the big names that I just mentioned that creates a level of enthusiasm for the return and ultimately becomes red carpet as you start to play very quickly because I was on. I take yesterday and they asked me this question to open up the show Doris. I will leave it with you on this today. In your mind Lakers clippers have been at the top of the West all year long boxes on top of the Easter all year long. Who's the team to beat when they see if when they come back and we all get to see this unprecedented sort of Dash in? Orlando this summer. Who's favorite with Lebron James and the Lakers and too because because I think you need a driving force who's been there and done that and overcome every possible scenario and circumstance and who has faced more adversity more situations in the playoffs. Lebron James The answer to that question is no one Jalen. I agree with DB the Lakers and we know about the MVP level. Play of Lebron James. But I think the difference maker however will be Anthony Davis Upfront. If you look at the landscape of the League Darren too many six eleven seven-foot guys that can deal with Anthony Davis in his approved. Three point shooting in what he can do on the posting in the PAINT CHALLENGE COMEBACK. A little bit later in the program doors. It is a delight as always to see you. Continue to be well and we'll see soon. Thank you thanks okay. That store's burke was born again. Jalen is coming back but Jalen brought up. The situation with baseball yesterday was not their best day The Major League Baseball owners issued a financial proposal yesterday proposed a marginal salary structure that would see the lowest paid players in baseball receiving close to a full share of their prorated salary but the game stars receive far less than expected. And if you politics passing on twitter you saw him posting all of these numbers. Here's a breakdown. A player. Making the League minimum of five hundred sixty three thousand dollars. Whatever prorated salary of half that amount baseball would request about an additional ten percent cut in the salary would be set a player making thirty million? It'd be requested to take an additional fifty percent pay cut after already getting down for the pro rated figure. There are a lot of numbers that were being thrown around about this yesterday. Chapman frustrated a lot of people. Because here we are in the other sports. They're talking about how badly they want to come back and play and in baseball there airing a lot of their dirty financial laundry okay. That's out there. What happens now what happens now. Greenie is that we see what the players really want. The ball is in their court now and I think the advantage is. There's too because when you get a proposal as seemingly lopsided this there've been some I wouldn't say a fractious players association but have certainly been some people who've been in a more moderate wing of that party and that moderate wing said. Let's get a deal done. Let's compromise. Let's get together with the other side and ensure we have baseball this year after yesterday and after that proposal. Greenie the moderates are on the side of the hardliners. Now and they really believe that they have to take a fight back to the owners to essentially say. We're not going to take a proposal like this even seriously at this point and so what does that mean. That doesn't sound like good news to me. If our ultimate goal here is to have baseball this summer you know what it is creamy. It's the beginning of a contentious negotiation. And that's what we have to remember. Throughout this whole thing I I've been trying to preach patients because ultimately it still beef moves both parties for there to be baseball. And that has been the overriding guiding principle. I've seen from the start now. I will fully admit it acknowledged the same thing was the case back in nineteen ninety four and any comparison to nine thousand nine. Ninety four is a really problematic thing because we lost the world series that year and baseball changed forever that year but I would like to believe that rational people have learned from their mistakes in that losing baseball in two thousand twenty as the NHL is going on as the NBA is going on as the NFL or go is going on as all of these sports are going on. During baseball's prime moments would be absolutely deleterious for the sport short and long-term in that both sides recognized that enough where they're gonNA figure out this mess and get baseball back on the field this year root for that to be right because I agree a lot of words. I could put in their devastating catastrophic. Almost any word you want to attach the impact that I think it would have on the sport long term and short. Jeff will continue to follow you as this thing continues to develop okay setting the table for what's going to be a very busy hour coming up. Not much expected for Matthew. Stafford's lions or Matt Ryan Falcons. Right Prong Dan ski will tell us why fans of those teams should have a lot of hope and then it became clear during last names. There was no love lost between. Mj and Isaiah did that. He is as off the Dream Team once and for all the answer though. We're apart these days sharing more so at Geico we'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing. 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We got Kerala Day. The line is making the playoffs this year. Produce P macabre. Please bring me on. Talk about football. Why is greedy? That was how we ended yesterday program here yesterday. With Jalen rose making his case that his beloved Detroit Lions are going to have a better record than my jets and be that. They're gonNA make the playoffs. Let's start with the second part of that Dan Orlovsky. You're still allying in your heart and your soul. The lions making the playoffs this year. Yes actually thought the lines. We're GONNA make the playoffs last year. And they were a three and four football team with Matthew Stafford healthy and he was playing really kind of. Mvp type of football now. Okuda's got step in and be variously. He's got locked down corner and Jalen. I love the addition Andrey slipped. I expect them to use the Andrea Swift. Like the same views. Alvin Kamara but that defense has to play better. Jalen light if that defense is in the thirties again. They won't make the playoffs but if they play average football defensively. That's going to be in Detroit. A top five top seven offense with the Healthy Matthew Stafford that division. Has Some question marks. I'M GONNA say by Detroit. Lions are going to make the playoffs. Okay so Jaylen Lions Lions Dominique. What do you think I mean I feel like I understand their perspectives right about Matthew Stafford? But they are still the lions so let's not get our hopes of their defense has not improved substantially from a talent level. So I can't imagine a defense going to get that much better. And then division I agree is not as strong as you would want it to be the regression of the bears defense and also the concern on their offense around the quarterback situation. But my big question at division is how much faith can you possibly have in the Vikings? There they lost their starting corners. I do think the vikings are more talented overall team than alliance in probably a better coach team. So I'm not sure that are GonNa get past all that and I haven't even mentioned Aaron Rodgers so division division isn't that tough but neither are the lions so. I'm not putting any money on it. I Know James. Never been on sports and neither have I. I'm not going to start with the lines Jalen. We did not have a lot of time yesterday when this guy most respect you and I are going to make the wager this year. The suit bet that got canceled open the NBA. The jets versus the lion so cancel. It's canceled its canceled because the season did not get to go to a conclusion. And so the Pelicans I believe would have made the playoffs. Had they had the opportunity to and unfortunately the circumstances that are suit bet got. Let's call it postponed to the NFL. Season I believe the jets will have a better record than the Lions Greenie best. Don't work like that. That's not. That's not how best work you lost jail. No and they're not in it up the NBA resume. Way Way off. Happen is Iowa isn't participating you lost that day so you say. Hey we'll use say the suit bit counts one way or the other okay. So then we'll go double or nothing. I'll throw an invest if you WANNA make it a three to throw in a pair of shoes. Do you strongly in belief that the lions will have a better record than the jets this year. I'm not strongly believe in. I'm guaranteeing and I love Jamal Adams by the way and they need to take care of him before he end up somewhere else like Detroit at Tampa Bay but with that being said. I believe our quarterback is better than a yours are. Running game is better. I'll wire receiver and room is better and matthew staffer is going to have a break out season. I think when we start talking about top teed quarterbacks he's got to catapult himself thermally into that conversation and I got to say something about the packers to we talk so much about them drafted Jordan love. And you know I'll watch every show every day including this one and people say time and time again. Aaron Rodgers. Don't have weapons. I've seen both y'all see you'll see every single day. Rogers don't have weapons. I'M GONNA put the respect on one name Devin funchess. That's who they picked up this off season. Who's going to also be a weapon for air? Roger a team that want thirteen games last year. Five of those Games Greenie backup quarterbacks though sleep on my life they got in the play. Offs Jalen Jalen. Where did where did funchess go to school? The school Detroit in elementary okay. Exactly that's the name Jalen. Stay with me. We're coming back to do all the NBA stuff with you. And just a minute. But Dan Alaska. I want you to fix some quarterback situations. You're okay we're GONNA play a little game. Would look at some young quarterbacks in what they need to improve Daniel Jones New York giants. What they need to improve needs to improve his performance against zone defense is he was great last year playing against. Mandy fence with his accuracy but burn zone defense four touchdowns nine interceptions a qbr around thirty five so needs to understand. Defense is a little bit more realize that those windows are smaller. And they're going to close quicker and I want to see a little bit of an uptick in his arm strength. That's really something that will show on six or seven is on you paying it. The zone defense how about Makefield the mechanics mechanics within the pocket? I WANNA see Baker. Sit in the pocket and display very very good accuracy. Because that's the player that is when he gets out of the pocket. He's a bad player. Thirty six percent as a passer rating. He needs to stay in the pocket and trust at the mechanics of that offense or going to allow him to excel as a quarterback and then when we go to deck Prescott Dak Prescott needs to play. Better verse. Good defenses last year playing. Its top ten defenses. He was a bad quarterback lead his team to Oh and five record and only scored nineteen points per game against those top ten defenses. And I think something like eight touchdowns and six interceptions Dacca's at that level where especially when it comes to his contract. He's got who step up and play them. Big Time football against defenses and stop kind of trying to deepen take the bait. I'm not gonNA take the bait. You're not gonNA upset me. Is this disrespectful to put back in the conversation with those other guys? He's so much and your argument. Your problem no I'm wrong. Stop it stopping approve wrong easily. He was number four and Qbr. Which as we both know takes into consideration how good the defenders are and this is back in the playoffs against the seahawks leading game winning. Drop that Prescott is much better than all of those guys in Dak Prescott last year to be are against teams over five. Hundred records was better than Aaron. Rodgers was better than Brady was better than Garoppolo Dak Prescott even in this conversation. This you're not gonNA upset me. I'm done with nineteen points. I'm up against guys outstanding debate. We can continue this as we go. I have really. They'll because to but coming up before the last dance premiered Michael Jordan feared how people would view him now. Those fears are being realized. We'll discuss it. It's your home speaking and I need you to do me a couple of favors I could you get that. Blueberry that rolled under the fridge last week it's throwing my funk sway off second thing bundle your home and car insurance with GEICO. It's easy and we could save money. Lastly I know you're thinking of painting the nursery back to off white. But I'm actually feeling this baby. Blue didn't think it was my color but I am pulling it off. Gyco for bundling made easy go to GEICO DOT COM. Today we are back on get up and yesterday was very interesting. A regarding Batman the last dance Michael Jordan said he had nothing to do with Isaiah. Thomas not making the Dream Team. In Ninety two in Barcelona a recording. From podcast in twenty eleven resurfaced. And here's what Jordan said rocking usually charter. That got a lot of attention yesterday for a variety of reasons including the fact that it seems to contradict what Michael himself said during the last dance. I want to play two more things to set up. The conversation Rod Thorn referring to is the basically the person in charge of selecting the team. He was on Golic and Wingo last month. And you'll hear. He denied that Jordan had anything to do with. We also had Isaiah Thomas on last month right at the height of this and I wanNA play a bit of that. Because you'll sense. Just how hurt. He remains by being snubbed to this day. Let's play those. There was never anything in the conversation with him that had to do without Thomas Period He said outdoors. If I'm not a part of the Dream Team. Because you know Elapsed emotion in terms of not shaking. Someone's hand if that's the reason why. Make the Dream Team than I am more disappointed today than I was back. Then when I wasn't selected okay and so we are delighted to bring back. Bring Back Jalen and bring Matt Barnes into the conversation here as well Matt. Great to see you my man. Thank you for doing this but Jalen let me start with you going all the way back to the beginning of the airing of last. Michael said that he was concerned that people's thought about him their the way they view him might be impacted negatively by what they see now particularly in light of yesterday. What do you think I think a lot of people got emotional about the documentary for some? Mj was the greatest player. Did they saw how he behaved with his teammates? That didn't love his leadership style. And now they flip and change in his say. Oh Lebron is the best player. Here's the thing for anybody ever done a project. I've been fortunate enough to produce the five documentary and also a bestselling author anytime. You're going to do a quality project they're gonNA be heroes and they're going to be villains. And in this case it was krause it was pippen. Horace Grant. That's what it was and Mj did not mind doing net to tell the story. So yes. That's going to rub clearly as teammates the wrong way. And it's unfortunate that they had so much success yet. They don't have the relationship that we hope they've half but that's what makes it an all time great documentary. I saw to promotion for the Tom. Brady documentary not can't front. I wasn't exciting because I thought everything was going to be staged unlike this one. So that's why it was a terrific project but let me bring up Isaiah though because in particular with regard to that we now we've had sort of a he said he said but now Michael Jordan is on both sides of A. He said he said he said he didn't do it. And then he said in this podcast in two twenty eleven that he did do it. So what are we supposed to make of that Jalen? We always knew that wasn't true. Uh Detroit native stood on. The table was scream as loud for the whole world to hear us. But y'all just ignore because we beat what everybody loved now. J. That was that was bird. We upset the apple cart. Those are three at a best seven basketball players to ever do it and in Detroit Pistons had the nerve to be bad. Boys went back to back championships in era and not bow down in respect them and so we feel as the freight native like when it was our turn to celebrate. Everybody was jealous and everybody was hating. And that's still to this day. Matt bars get you in here. I haven't haven't had a chance to chat with you since with the Michael Jordan documentaries. I started airing so I'll give you the floor. Everyone ago as you hear all this conversation came into the league a little bit later and obviously played a really long time. What is your perspective on the Michael Jordan that we have come to know now based on all of this? It hasn't changed you know he's a competitor. You Hear People Crimes Day about his tactics or his motives wooden work and people would wanNA play with them. I think Jamie brought this up a week or so ago we go into the NBA to to to play to win to make as much money as we can while we can if you happen to make friendships along the way great but if you don't that's not our main objective plenty of friends outside of basketball. You know if you're able to build a long term relationships I think that's amazing but the goal is to win and make money and if they did it you know what I mean. So there's always gonNA BE CASUALTIES OF WAR. Unfortunately with the few guys on the team that were depicted or betrayed. Maybe the way they didn't want to be but you know when you're looking back that long the story is going to change a little. It may not be as clear to you. I'm working on some documentaries right now and I really have to do my research because I remember at one way than I read something. That's a little bit different. So this was Jordan's peace was his time. We all waited for it. I loved it. Johnson I think is going to sweep the awards in award season for documentaries the end there's always gonna be casualties of war when you're speaking up like this. I think that's an important point to make just specifically with regard to the discrepancy between what Michael said nine years ago and what he said in this the substance of them. I think it is reasonable to say that the very specific words that were chosen in the conversation doesn't necessarily mean he was lying in the documentary. At least I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt for that one way or the other. I've never had any doubt that Michael Jordan was behind Isaiah. Thomas not being on the Dream Team. Dominic what are your thoughts? Yeah I mean I agree with you. It didn't change my perception of Michael Jordan because mine tire life that I was aware of this controversy. I always thought that might kept him off of the Dream Team. And then when Mike said he didn't or Like hinted towards him not doing it in the documentary. That was the first five seconds that I thought maybe my been doing. And then I'll then I watched the rest of the documentary and saw how kind of petty vindictive and how Mike also enjoyed destroying people's wanted to win. You wanted to destroy anybody who was in his way and this seemed like another opportunity for him to destroy someone who he saw as a competitor a competitor arrive also always thought he did it. It seemed like he did do. The documentary made me questioned for a second but these these Subsequent stories have kind of made me go back to my original belief. It doesn't change anything that I feel about Michael Jordan but I do think it's a sad sad reality because this wasn't about him winning understand everyone can justify the way. He treated his players teammates. Because at one them championships. This wasn't about winning. This was about settling a grudge and to all my research not that I know everything about basketball by any stretch. It seemed like this was the only the only thing that I did was not shake his hand after a game for that to carry on to him not getting to represent his country and on the Dream Team like that to me seems over the top. Go ahead jail. That's not the only thing he did. Dominique everybody keep missing. What I'm saying. What Isaiah Thomas did is he beat Michael Jordan two times more than Michael Jordan him when they play basketball from nineteen eighty six to one thousand nine hundred ninety one thirty six and seventeen. That's still doesn't justify is worse. That doesn't and I know as they iced out of his rookie. All-star game like none of that to me justifies. What Joran did if you're going to justify Jordan trash talking teammates and calling him all kinds of native defied on just. Oh yeah okay. I'm just making sure we're on the same page. That's the only problem advocating justify a matt hit on it a little bit. It didn't justify it. That's what rivalry is all about this like a disdain. Hey I know you guys don't see it right now. Don't understand it exists. But there's a reason why these guys are not friends and not getting along thirty years later when the top people to ever play basketball and they got more rings. All of us put together. I'm with that I'm going to move it here peasants. I'm not I'm not able to get to the thing I was going to do next because you just brought up an important point. Maybe what we should be saying today is if rivalries are never supposed to end Matt Barnes and I'm all with that I there's a part of me is a sports fan all my life. That is just fine with Michael Jordan as as Thomas continuing not to like each other until the end of their lives. That that's all good to me. That's what rivalry is about. But then should it have been up to Michael not to have Isaiah on the team. Isaiah Thomas belonged on that team. He's one of the greatest players of all time. He wasn't so far removed. It was no more removed from his prime. Then Larry Bird was and they put bird on that team so I guess at the end of the day should it have been up to Michael to make that decision? If there's some place to look for some criticism here Matt Barnes. Is it that I mean if you look at it I mean we all know? Isaiah was one of the top twelve fourteen guys in the world. Bedtime hands down so he definitely should have been on the team but then we also know to not not even know that superstars are catered to you know and it was it was. Mike turned to take that front and center stage as you watch not only documentary but other stuff about magical birth. This was kind of the passing of the torch to this is about to be image as league so if you want that the greatest player we didn't know the possibly the greatest player of all time to play on the team to lead a team. You're going to have to cater to him so I think it's no secret you know. Mj had some hand or something to do with Isaiah plan but you also take a step back and look at people's way to the top being great whether you're a CEO of business basketball whatever you're GONNA step on a lot of people heading up there you're gonNA hurt a lot of feelings and that's part of being great. That's part of being a billionaire. That's part of being a six time champion. You'RE GONNA hurt a lot of feelings. You're going to break a lot of hearts but that just is what it is so if you ask Mike what I do it over again or what. Change anything I doubt He. Would you know I enough from a negative standpoint when I make this next comment but as far as the competitive nature never a chance to play against Jordan or really even meet him? I met one time. I saw a lot of the tenacity and wing by any means and Kobe very similar when I was watching stuff in practice. I got chills. Because I'm like not in a bad way but in a competitive way. Kobe would cuss you out. You saw Kobe. Get into a player's. Kobe would do anything he could to get the best out of his team because he knew on the biggest stage was going to be needed. So when like my first pointer when I first bovine people crying about what we elected to this. He's to that though all that out the window man at the end of the day. It's all about winning. Might one at the highest level. And there's GonNa be some casualties awards when that happens. I'm GonNa take a break here because I want to get to the Damian Lillard stuff and we wanted to get stuff with the ring. So let's take a quick break. We'll bring this group back in just a moment and we're going to talk about a variety of things including Matt. Barnes had these comments he said he wanted NBA title. But he doesn't feel like he earned the ring. What our guys think. We're going to discuss that neck through watching get up body. Espn the folks that odor readers want to express our deep appreciation for the healthcare professionals first responders and essential business employees who continue to do so much. Take care of the rest of us to all of you working harder and longer days. If our products can help make the days ahead a little more bearable you can find them in stores and online at Walmart target. Cvs or other fine retailers. Thank you stay healthy and safe up and has gotten to know Matt Barnes here on the program over the course of the last year we know he's one of the most interesting people in sports and add some comments on his podcast. All the smoke that we thought were fascinating. He won a championship. But the Golden State warriors in two thousand seventeen but as we will show you here on his podcast. He had the following comments. He said I came in when Kevin Durant went down. I played a consistent twenty to twenty five minutes a game. Katie comes back. I get hurt. Maybe a week before the playoffs and out of it. I got a free ride. I got a free ring. I didn't sweat. I didn't get to guard Lebron. I don't count that as a championship. The good news is we have Matt Barnes with us this morning to get a little more into that. Because I think it's a fascinating comment and here we are. Maybe the first ever get up five bucks. Has We put the entire crew together. But Man I'll start with you when you say that. What do you mean when you say? I don't count that as a championship. Greenie. I just had in his detailed. I had a roller coaster ride a blessing to be able to play as long as I play was supposed supposed to make it. I made it but nothing was ever had smoke. I took less money consistently to be on a team that contended in a team. That won. Because I figured when you win everybody eats chances in my me on those types of teams didn't get it done said coming for Katie February when he gets hurt playing in the mix in the first game he comes back. I mean we break my ankle so by the time that I'm feeling good enough to play. We're already eight now. Going into the Western Conference finals. You know what I mean so being a veteran player that I am I knew that the rotation was gonna stay with. It was just really didn't get a chance to get out there in play and sweat and go to work now granted. I helped the guys prepare. I was a solid talked and other players when they were going through some stuff but to me nothing was ever handed to me and I felt like that was handed so I don't I accepted. I think though the misconception that I didn't the ring I accepted the ring. There's a little story that wider have a right now but I don't count it as a championship jail. What do you think of that? I want your perspective on that is what do you think have no matter long time. I remember playing at the UCLA. Men's gym where he and be Dino's guys when they were in college. And what I gather from his comments and what I've always known about. His personality is that he's a straight shooter and a lot of times. People don't have a level of reality self awareness about themselves. That's what plays out in this commentary. Yes I enjoyed the champagne. I appreciate the opportunity to be a part of the parade. Love the teammates and coaches that I got a chance to do it with but as a competitor like he said he didn't feel he got the sweat equity in order to feel like he was putting the ring on his finger and being proud of it. I felt the exact same way. My Final Year Phoenix. I thought I was GonNa Sneak and give me a ring. Plan with Steve Nash Daughter Meyer and that was the year when Robert Ory hit. Check Steve Nash into the Bitch in about halfway through the year when I realized that I was paying for more tickets per game than I was plan minutes. I wasn't as enthusiastic about winning the ring anymore. I would've taken it but it wouldn't have felt the same if I would have wanted with the patients for example when I was playing at a high level I get that I told again obviously. I'm the only one on this conversation. Never had a chance to try and win a ring in anything but it feels to me as though yes I understand. If you're Tom Brady you might feel differently about the championship in the last guy on the bench. But there's ways in which you contributed. You were a part of the team to some degree. Matt I guess what I'm saying is if I want to championship. I started jokingly said but only half jokingly what I would I would take that ring and I would make a necklace out of it and I would wear it every single day. And there's there's literally not a day of my life that I would want someone to see that I had that because I was an NBA champion. And so I just can't quite relate to what you're saying. I mean I get it and I understand it but you know granted you could say what you want to say about my career there's skeptics and critics and whatever you wanna say but everywhere I went. I play whether I whether I started. I was the first or second guy of the bench I consistently played throughout my career. You know what I mean so I always felt like I had a hand in what was going on winning. Losing Great Game Bad Game. Whatever situation may be and you know for the first time outside of me my first two years in the NBA. I really felt like there was just. It wasn't about I. I was a teammate and like I said My Body of work earned a ring and everything. I sacrifice the money. I sacrifice that ranks but when it came down to actually have to guard Kawhi in the playoffs in help guard. Damion Damian Lillard guarding the broad in the finals. These are all things that if healthy I would did. I wasn't healthy So I wasn't in rhythm I wasn't in timing and I didn't get an opportunity to so we can go back and forth all day about it like I said I respect the worse for the utmost for giving me the opportunity the best part about it was my twin. Berlow for the ride. They got their rings. They were on Steiner said. You couldn't tell them that they they weren't out there with Stephane K V. They were trying to hold the trophies and everything so that was the best part about it to my twins. At the time were nine got to experience that and it always be something this near being on that team but like. I said I just don't count or talk about it or where I get it. I don't even want to go back and forth as much as I. Just find the psychology of it interesting from the standpoint of you guys being athletes so Dominique. Limon come to you guys the football players when you hear this conversation. What do you think make sense? I understand it I think he And again you don't want to go back and forth with them. If that's the way feels anyone who's on? That team deserves a rain because they contributed in some way like. That's the way that it works. Even like the media relations guy everybody kind of gets the ring but everyone knows it feels different. That's why assistant coaches go to become head coaches in the rings that they win. When they're assistant coaches are no more. Don't feel the same as they win. One of the head coach might feel different for a quarterback like it makes sense and the I never played in a super bowl but I do know that I feel. I felt a lot worse when I tore my ICL. And I couldn't play. And I was getting paid like I'm not going to send that money back. Just not going to send his ring back but it didn't feel like I earned it in the same way so I think it's human nature. It makes perfect sense to me. I think what Matt said about him feel like he did. He's not a champion or he didn't win that ring. I think that's where people feel uncomfortable because you did add value throughout the course of the season and you add value as a veteran there. But if you don't feel like you're in you don't feel like you earned it. I personally feel like I would love to have a ring from anywhere whether I was on the team or not. I'm with you greeting given rink. Please I'll take it. I'll figure out what I earned it or not later. Dan How about you? Yeah I mean first of all incredible amount of respect for Matt. I've met once in studio that. While obviously a ton of respect for his decision we often times sports here like the journey is greater than the destination and I think this is just an example of that this is example of Matt Gone. My career meant more than the ring and what I compliment more than just the ring and I say this about my own career and maybe I'm speaking for Matt but like the only person who knew how hard it was to have that career is. He's the only one who knows the sacrifice and the commitment made and the things that he gave up in the diligence that he had to go through and that means so much more to him and certainly does to me than ever getting the ring that you feel. You didn't contribute to earning and a lot of times and I'm guilty of this like we look at ourselves in the hopes and thoughts of what we want to be and we don't do enough of looking at ourselves what we are and what we have done and what we have accomplished and celebrate that and I think this is just an example of that Madison credit comfortable in his own skin and what he accomplished and he doesn't want to see himself in a a wishful thinking type of mindset. He wants to celebrate what he is and what he accomplished. And so I get it I actually would probably have a very similar mindset and I respect the heck out of it I wanNA make it clear in case it's not that this is not something I think there is room to agree or disagree with. I think it's just for those of us who didn't play an interesting peak. I got an example. Yeah how `bout this Carson Whiz don't feel the same about the Philadelphia reading as everybody else does. Do you think he likes showing up at work? And there's a statue with his head coach in Nick foles when he parks his car. He don't value that reading like that. But from now on we're GONNA say Super Bowl. Champion Carson wins. How about that example? It's an interesting one. It's not the exact same circumstance Matt. It was but I agree with what you said. That was different because he was the most important player on the team and then he got hurt and they wound up winning it without a matter. I'll give you it was it was all your idea in the first of all. I'll give you the final word. What's what's the last thing you want to say about this. I thought it was an amazing time and amazing opportunity. I think Dan you hit it on the head. You know we were late. Ground picks that had a hell of a journey a blast. You know a dream life. I couldn't dream of You know it's opened up several doors post career so I am very You know when I sit back and look at my career I I love the journey. I loved the grind. I love the sweat equity I put into. It just didn't end typically the way I wanted it to in but it was still a dream. Come true it's really well done. Matt I appreciate the honesty here again. I think this was just something that was an interesting glimpse into the psyche of a professional athlete. And how he views something that most of the rest of us would think. Oh my goodness had to be the greatest experience of all time guys. Thank you all for the thoughts on this as we continue very busy day here on. 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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 3

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 3

"Caller, number seven. What is your name where you calling from? Hey, this is from lockin yada. Locking yada of France. It just luck. And yada. Lakhan Yadav foot ridge. Okay. How you doing? I'm doing great. How are you this morning, man? I'm doing I'm doing great just discussing that. Call. Do you have today's Laker keyword? And what is it? Oh, you know, I got it. It's home more. He congratulates. Into the sweet. Sweet sweet grass for more I against Janas to Caputo. Nope. And the bucks. Listen Thursday night doing the Lakers T wolves for another. Laker key word. Congratulations, my friend. We'll see then who you bring in. Thank you. Thank you. Bring. Bring my wife mother of two beautiful children. We're gonna have a good time. Nice guy beautiful jewelry here for the other day. See some veggies, and he's bringing his side piece. Put it out there. That was actually me call. Skyes voiced. That would really scare me that sounded like voice has been described. French L Z? This is my twenty Pucca. I used to do this. Tony Pucca all this time when he was talking about as a Cohen. It's speaking of. All right. Speaking of. Yeah. This is an interesting coming interesting when coming out of southern Bangladesh, there's a say it, right right Bank. Why would you there's a young man over there? Twenty eight years old in the small town southern Bangor gas. He has what they call tree man syndrome, which is in disease. It's I just had it. It's how do you say as epi dermal displays you epi dermal displays, you know, you ain't had this one his his hands in his feet or deform to the fact they look like trees would like would and trees, and it's it's an inch splinters. We like when it looks like I'm it looks like it just looks it looks horrible and painful, but what does it look like it's just like looks like tree limbs and branches in it's all split like like. With the dog owners in the dogs go up to him and they'd be like. Nine pop up among so he looks like root or group. It looked like a route. But I wonder if they can appetite it and try to save him save it save him as much as they can't. Because it looks very very painful, man. I wonder if he has I'm not I'm not sure what his faith is. But you know, some faiths are against suicide. I have a hard time. If I was going through a kind of pain, not contemplating that, you know, that's pretty remarkable living live, that's a tough. That's a tough draw. Right. Yeah. That's that's bad. I can you do me a favor key. Can you talk about dog ice cream during the key? The key updates isn't. That's a little serious. Yeah. No series at it was fast. Roger. I'd never seen that before thought. It was great because I was worried about the splinters. No, not to touch like, man. That's crazy. So that was the key update. It's a fascinating story, and why are you playing? So I love you said he's from Bangladesh. The song bango gone. This is like nearing or something. Like that. Now, it's who is this get this is your taxes a bed the pit in land. We tried something. Yeah. You know, they got splintered on the way down. Shirks rockets are gonna move Anthony to the bulls. The bulls are not expected to play them. The they're going to deal him. They're going to wave him prior to the deadline. That's the report here's what Adrian voting arouse. He woke tweeted the following the Lakers maintain interest in Anthony. But do not want to wave guaranteed player to create a roster. Spot for him league. Sources tell ESPN if a roster spot eventually opens with L A. Yes. The Lakers are a possible destination for Anthony. If would says it I'm willing to listen to it because that's he he's plugged in anybody, and he doesn't just throw stuff against the wall to make it stick. But I just don't understand what he brings at this stage in his career to the Laker vacancies. And the opportunities that are available to the Lakers are not. There's no overlap if we're doing ven diagrams those two circles are on opposite sides of the room. Carmelo Anthony skill set and Laker needs. They don't cross over at all. No, they don't. And the only thing I can think of the only thing I can think of is that on those nights in which either his shot isn't falling or he is not as engaged as you elect him to be authencity that he gobbles up some minutes from Brandon Ingram when Braun is back because coups coups is established. He's gonna get his twenty shots at night. He's established. He's to ofensive number two. When Broncos back clearly, Brian is going to be Braun. So now, you're asking yourself. Ok well who else is getting those shots. There are nights in which Brennan anger is not as aggressive. So. On those nights. You can slide in bees or you can bring Carmelo Anthony. Yeah. But but but with even with that. K SPN, Los Angeles mckay's to listen because even with that just because Carmelo Anthony may be more offensively aggressive doesn't mean he's going to be hitting the buckets because if you haven a buck is he wouldn't have been on the man for he has been Brandon Ingram is a better player right now in corporate. Absolutely not. But he doesn't always go after the way he should do you want to go after it the way he should in miss or do you make it do you all Carmelo to go after the way he knows how to in not do anything at all and reliability even ability on both ends for you. Yeah. But that doesn't mean that he's gonna get a big chunk in a minute. What does it? But hold on. Hold on. I think you gave him to me for free. I don't want. I think we're getting a little bit off the Mark here these they're not going to bring him in to play. Instead of Brandon Ingram what they would be doing. If in fact, this was even a one in one hundred shot the bring him into replace somebody like, Michael Beasley. You're not talking about him. We're talking about. That role. He's not fill. Brandon Ingram say filled his role. I'm saying on those nights. It gives you warmer option to see what you can see because Carmelo even though it didn't work out in Houston. If you go back and look at the time that he was there. There were nice. He's still got an in. They didn't win those games. And so they had to adjust a roster. But there were still plenty of nights in which he shot the ball will. And he got it in and on those nights. You know, like we saw in Houston overtime gain. Are Brandon Ingram showed up in overtime for us? But for three quarters, you know, it was like coup, and it was nowhere to be found on those particular nights. You throw in a little Camilla just to see what he got. If he got some you roll with it. And if he doesn't you send them back down low Kudo, I like mellow mellow good with me and everything. But as far as trying to get some continuity with the young of basketball that that that books I'm just trying to get some rationale as to why they were even bought a kicking the tires. And that's and that's the only thing I can see as you go. To turn over every single rock. No matter what to to what is building a team. And you look at a deuce of doesn't mean that we go after may take a look at this has been turned over by every team in the league that Carmelo Anthony the rockets decided to stop using him what after a couple of weeks into the season, maybe less. It's look it's a criticism of it. We're at the end of the line. We're not I don't really care about that. The holy turn it back onto Marcus cousin. The now we're complaining because he's with Golden State Warriors. You don't say sometimes the leak and miss it to really smart people passed on coups for twenty plus twenty plus picks yet, but a young guy quick with lots of opportunity ahead of him is different than an old guy. Who's in the graph is already tips. But they didn't miss. Oh, cool because coups where where was supposed to go. He was supposed to go on a so the Lakers. And that's where you went Mandy missed. They didn't necessarily miss because he still went where it was supposed to go. I mean, I'm happy. We got him coups is here. Here's what a former general manager said about Kaku. He's a legitimate score. That fits the modern NBA perfectly Kouzmin has the highest value the Lakers, young prospects. He's the most proven you'd said admitting that they've got that piece figured out. The other piece is this though, and the GM continued to say this the consistency of his three point shooting and defense must improve kouzmines. Not a good defender, but he's not as much of a liability as Brandon Ingram. So say former general manager told Bleacher report this former general manager former. Yeah. So he's on the street meeting miss. Miss always Bill Polian components of former. So it just because you don't mean that you were an idiot. I think what it means. A former here's what I would say Bill Polian is go put his name to it though. True. The difference. The difference. Bill is going to say x general manager nine time executive of the year. Bill polian. Right. This particular person. And that's fine is Bleacher reports reporting it she put his name to just inform executive. If you don't need a former generally. You don't need to be a former general manager to do know what he just said. And that is if you've watched the Lakers even intermittently, you know that Kyle kouzmines the best young player. They have. He's the best before he. Yes. Yes. For sure if you watch the Lakers, even intermittently, you know that Brandon Ingram is very frustrating. Even if you just because there was not a better example of Brandon Ingram, then Saturday night against the rockets wherever three three quarters and change. It was like weird is he especially when Lonzo went down. You're like, dude, let's go. And then all of a sudden something clicked something got him to fully engage because for most of the fourth quarter in the entire order. He couldn't miss. I mean, he was tearing people up, right? And my question is even with all that even would him doing all that he looked like a hot dog to me. He looked like he was forced in his self to to hit those shots to take those shots. You know, he's dribbling all the way down to the last few seconds. He sitting there. Like, he's on the playground somewhere. In other news is all in a corner. They waiting agree. Right. And he's still hot dog. I mean, look I'm happy hitter shots. He hit them. You know, we needed the offense. He's frustrating. Because key and Travis there a moment's like in overtime, which you like on. All. Yeah. See we got this right here. We bought the eat now. But sometimes it's famine long stretches long stretches his famine. Yes, Rosh you guys you guys talking about camello and he's played on a number of team. And you know, got me to thinking about. Camila wouldn't be the first NBA player jump around a little bit. So let's someone dear to our heart. And it'd be a friend of the show. But then Travis got here. I don't think he likes them anymore. But Matt Barnes, can you guys. Name me all of the teams the NBA teams. Matt Barnes has played with Travis and she chased him away. Why don't you start? Know how I did that. The Lakers, you traced the boys never spoken to Matt Barnes in my life. I didn't know he was on the show. He he was he chased him away. I used to come up with maximum ourselves. Lakers. He he was on the Lakers. Yes. LCD Grandy man of Sacramento Kings the kings. That was the second team. He played for Keyshawn. Do you know Matt bars looking for all the teams Matt Barnes, Golden State Warriors? The warriors you see they're very confidently. Yes. That was the fifth team. He played for Travis. Your turn again clips the people seem yesterday clippers are the team that drafted him. He was on the clippers and how many teams few of them l z. I'm going to say the new year knickebocker that was a third team. He played for Keyshawn. Phoenix suns. Ooh, that's sixteen. He played. I didn't remember that. When there are two more teams Travis Sacramento. Oh. Oh. We're Landau Orlando Magic. Orlando. He's supposed to do something. Now. I don't see that. All Raj dot com. Yeah. You got to double check. The raiders yesterday. Very goes right there. Yup. It didn't make the transition over to the thing. So we'll see now there are two more teams. Look for all the teams Matt Barnes played for. I'm gonna say Houston, Houston Rockets. Oh, good guess, but the wrong guests queue, Sean are you cheating? No. I was just looking at the Lakers schedule. Okay. No writing stuff down here. I'm not sure. Tumor teams have you at you. You looking for the teams on Lakers. Go to try and drop remember? Yeah. Yes. Cheating too. No right of town. No looking at the four the Rams through. Not. Okay. See, but the other one. Memphis, the Memphis grizzlies. Yes from Memphis. He did. Okay. See I always get them. I don't know. Why get neither do? I I don't know. Watched hates trouble. The last team that Matt Barnes has played for in his professional career, Charlotte. Charlotte Hornets is incorrect that means Keyshawn. On the playoffs. Well, you're not gonna know algebra the difference. The different hit the last team that Matt Barnes is played for. Whatever last name, he's plead for worthy Philadelphia. Seventy Sixers for like five games. He hit every California team. He was on tour kiss. So I'm not still in the lead new or not? So you think the Rams this right now? I have I have the Rams I'm not winning. I'll tell you. Hold on a second. Let me find it. Here. You picked the Rams, but your values were less than my values. Ooh, that's on it. Actually that is true. So hold on. I got to go on. As much as I am. I had the Rams and nine L Z. Okay. You had the Rams at ten. So we basically right there. The difference was I New England at ten and you had the chiefs at eight. So that's an eighteen point swing. Me you missed them. Both. Dan. Casey. Here are the grand totals right now sixteen points you have last week. There's the mistakes. Traffic's bills e you have twenty eight. I have thirty to ruin here's what ki- you have your one point game left. Elza you have your nine, and I have my eleven. You know, we certainly gave it an effort. We felt like that. We did everything. Power. Win both of those games. Wait things worked out for us. You know, we're just gonna have to come back next year. And you know, we got one more game to go. We'll come back next year. And we'll we'll we'll just regroup and trying to figure it back to work in how to do it. And we got bright future ahead of us. All right demand. There was on the field when it all went down including that call no call DeMarco far he's going to join us next. Speaking. Not that. It's not Steve Perry right there. But rather key singing Steve Perry. Happy birthday to Steve Perry. Seventy years old today. Since the straight college right here. I was hanging out at the nine. Oh when they was playing. Yeah. This is mad like a renaissance. This is still played a lot it is. And it's important for people to know. There's no such thing as east Detroit. Just what you people know that. Tomorrow, south destroyed or whatever it is. Detroit is just Detroit Detroit. Yeah. All right one, Los Angeles. Rams. Indeed. The Rams are into the Super Bowl coming up in a couple of Sundays. They had miraculous win in New Orleans a couple of days ago. The man that was there on the Marco four joins us right now. Demarco good morning. How are you? Good morning. I was happy until l z just ruined one of my favorite songs. The housing and that was me. But hey felt the Troy there is a south Detroit come on now. Dimarco I'm excited, man. My Rams one. I'm so excited. It's a big big day for me don't mind. This me us down on the field. Close standing there PI or not. Oh my God. Yeah. But the helmet you name it. I it's not the Rams fault. It's not Nicole Roby Coleman's fault. It's the officials fall. You got call that that was the most blatant. No, call I have ever seen. I still don't know why or hell and I'm fifteen yards away. Why you didn't draw that flag? I mean, what did you see or didn't see it was obvious to everybody? Either way. I don't care. The Rams got win. And if you want to like harp on that coal go back to week nine when Johnny hacker clearly picked up the first down and didn't get it. So tit for tat was good for the goose good for the gander. What do you think the NFL should do going forward in regards to this controversy personally my face? I think you can open up the conversation about reviewing pass interference Kohl's. I think I'd be okay with that. Because as many go against you you could benefit from. So I I think that might be one area where you can help the league help the officials, and I you know, I shake every officials hand that that that that that is out there with the teams and I say good luck today because it's so fast. They they ask you to do so much and try to be as accurate as you can is. It's just impossible. I'm right there with them and I miss Coles. So if you can help the officials out then so be it. Yeah. You miss caused? But you not the one out there throwing the flags. I mean, come on. You can't miss. You can't miss that. I keep using these weird analogies by saying what if I just this? And that it's like me talking to you right now. Demarco everybody in his damn room. That's listening. No, I talked to you. They could hear it see it and everything else. And then all of a sudden I'm sitting there and saying lying talking about no, I didn't I wasn't talking to DeMarco. And that's that's exactly what happened on that field. That guys sitting there is not a bang bang play. It was it least Papa. Papun buddy second lease was six or seven seconds. While the ball was traveling in the air from the time that he hitting into the tired of both of them fell on the ground in. You didn't see it? Now, let me tell you. I saw the one official who was facing the end zone. And he will looked at the other official like is that you recall and the official had his hand on the flag. And then took it off. I have no idea. It seemed like a guy that got caught in the middle of an intersection on a yellow light. And didn't know what to do. So they just let it go that entire Saint sideline. I swear was on the way down to have a word with that guy. When you get a chance next time, you you watching one of these clips, I want you to look back at the line of scrimmage in. And I want you to look at the referee start to grab his midsection in any didn't he reached forward? It was almost like I'm gonna throw it all away from he throat from back. Then if you go back, and you watch it. I'm sure it to you when he comes up again he reached and he was in this didn't even do anything. But the reality is DeMarco, and you know, this because you're a very intelligent man that no game particularly football knows decided by sing. Call or non call. So what did the Rams do over the course of the game, particularly after the down thirteen zero to get back into this football game. They stayed with it they kept grinding. They never gave up on themselves. C J Anderson did a great job pacing the entire offense being the leader on the sidelines. That was special to see seeing a guy who just got here. Be the fireplug be the calming influence on the sideline just kept at it. I thought you're gonna played a great football game. It wasn't pretty it wasn't easy. He didn't have he didn't have clean pockets all the time. But he found a way to make plays the defense indomitable sue the the rush by Fowler to get the pressure on breeze caused the pick just the team that refused to go away. They they accepted the challenge. It was about as loud as any environment. I've ever been in was deafening in there, and they handled it they handled after the first drive. So you have to give them a lot of credit. And then you go back to the the game winning field goal. You never led. Until you kick the game winning field goal. I swear guys that thing was good from sixty seven. That's how hard he kicked it. So it was a big deal. And as soon as that ball went through the uprights, you could have heard a pin drop in the place. It was amazing. So they never gave up they state with it. They stayed within themselves and they won the football game DeMarco for joining us on the sidelines for each and every Rams game and DeMarco are they doing something different defensively. Are they changed the scheme or is dumb? It can sue just taking it to another level. And and he's doing something differently individually because what we saw through most of the season is not what we saw against Dallas is not what we saw against New Orleans that looked like the SU that we thought we were going to get he he took over that game for stretches. Absolutely. There's there shack full. And now, they're shack sue, you know, in the postseason, you'll see the real indomitable sued the guy is absolutely dominant. He refuses to be blocked or single block. Now when you have that from it interior position or anywhere. They put them. I mean, you have the advantage. Plus you have Aaron Donald out. There reckon shop, and then Dante Fowler takes takes advantage of his one on ones and gets pressure. But they did a great job on Helvin Kamara stopping the run. I mean one point yards one point nine yards per carry for Kamara. I mean, that's something to write home about. Mark Ingram had a few good carries. But he was basically taken out of the game plan. And then you've got pressure on drew breeze. So that was all centered around in consumer and his push the way he was just knocking guys off the football. So if you can continue that going into two weeks from now, you might be coming home with the Lombardi damore go for join us the Rams on field. Analysts fast forward ahead two weeks from now Super Bowl Sunday. This matchup between the New England Patriots Tom Brady Jared Goff. Sean McVeigh, Bill Belichick. What in how will McVeigh try to counter? Some of the moves that Bill Belichick will put on display from a defense standpoint. For the New England Patriots. Well, you know, Bella check Bella shack is gonna make you do what you don't like. He's going to take away your best stuff either by scheme by formation or whatever he's going to try to do is take away your best stuff and the force you to go to come hard down the hard road. So whatever credits you give Bill ballot. Check and it's warranted. If you give him two weeks to game plan against you. He's gonna come up with something special to stop you. Well, I'll have to give the same credits to Sean McVeigh give him two weeks against anybody's defense. He's gonna know your rules. He's gonna know your tells he's gonna know your body language. He's gonna make you pay for for those defensive rule. So this is going to be a hell of a chess match down in Atlanta. I think every advantage you give Bill Belichick you can say the same for Sean McVay. Now, if you get into a same fourth quarter battle, I if it's a one possession game you are going against the best to ever do it in Tom Brady. So that's going to be tough. You're gonna need interior pressure. I mean, intense interior pressure blitzing or just one guy isn't going to be enough. To to unnerve or to stop Tom Brady. You're gonna need constant consistent pressure. That's going to be tough to get. But you know, Lombardi's aren't easy to come by. You know that key? They should be harmed. If you wanna be a champion, you should have to go through the best. And that's what it's gonna take to win. He's on the sideline for every game. He joins us every day. He already is a Super Bowl champion DeMarco far DeMarco, thank you. You gotta go. All right. Sean McVeigh was fifteen when Tom Brady and Bill wasn't it. I super. How much difference is that gonna mean come to Sundays for now? Keel tells nex. Happy birthday angrily. No, I'm guessing this is I don't know who is this. Well, here maybe this will give you an idea given that some day Chapelle slap. Remember that was the Rick James skit, which captured most of travis's people to finally watch the show we were watching what was your favorite was sixteen years ago today Chapelle show debuted day on the comedy channel. What was your favorite skit the shirts and blouses, oh that was one of the print. Sorry, man. I'm gonna go with the race draft owed was good one. Tiger Woods not. Q Sean your favorite Chapelle show skit. I don't know. What is ever on? I wasn't like sitting there knowing the skits like that. I mean, the game blouses was definitely that was up there. That was up there, especially. Especially following up. Rick James bit because it was charging Murphy exchanges. God bless trying on Princeton was cool. And one guy that we talked about was cool. Just the idea of prince crushing guys on the basketball court is incredible. It was transmitted. He's like five five. Yes. You relate his ankle when he was the backs clansman that one was good too. Oh, the white one. Yeah. Fly. Apply. Favorite favorite, pretty good? I got a kick out of that. Because I can only imagine what they found that was this might do hit exploded the one that brought a lot of my people to Chapelle was when Wayne Brady all of a sudden was the bad guy. Thank you. I that say that was my favorite one because I didn't expect that I was on a guy Wayne Brady, I'm not into that Wayne Brady just took it to it low. I didn't know he had. Yeah. That was good too. All right. Sean McVeigh was fifteen when the patriots Bill Belichick Tom Brady when that first Super Bowl he was fifteen. So obviously, you've got the hall of fame coach who's going to his ninth Super Bowl going up against the youngest coach in the NFL who's in his first Super Bowl just his second year as the head coach and the matchup between those two guys is going to be the topic for the next two weeks. Sean McVay says that he's going to get ready for the patriots the same way got ready for the saints really similar to to drew Brees. I mean, you're talking about guys that have been doing it as consistent as anybody. I mean, you just look at the amount of Super Bowl appearances that he's had and just. The way that he competes his understanding the way that he plays the quarterback position the right way when you when you look in or when you're teaching that that position or coaching that position. Whether it's drew or Tom these are guys that this is what it's supposed to look like when you're playing that position at a high level with the decision making the timing the rhythm, the accuracy the ownership of what they're trying to get done. And I have so much respect for him. And he's a he's a elite competitor that you know, it's going to be a great challenge. Just like drew Brees was force last week. I'm gonna have to help Sean McVeigh out a new situation. No, don't do anything or say anything to get under their skin under the Pat skin. Don't say anything don't say, it's I'm gonna give prepared the same way that I prepare for the do all that saints is that disrespected because they're going to take that. I know Bill chicken. I don't talk faking will take that it they go look at that. Okay. I will say this that that's how they think they use. It didn't sound us reduc note, they look for any little edge to get on their opponent any they'll they'll create for many think about that one year the year that they went seventeen in or whatever it was that they they did before they lost. They found every week a problem. The hang some points on the team. They just found every week. They would become a season. Like that. Just. Oh, yeah. We cheat. It okay. Watch this watch this. Did they start talking about the that the triple digits scoreboards? Just be careful. That's all I'm saying. I mean, I hear what you're saying. But I'm sitting in the Superdome leading up to kickoff. And they're playing clips of Robert Wood saying the the sound of Sweden didn't really bothered him that much to first game and stuff like that got the fans real route up. So part of the reason why the Superdome was. So loud, particularly that first quarter is because their PR team played every single sound by that through somewhat not necessarily shape, but just in being honest about whether or not the the noise inside bother me and weeknight. And he's too oppressive in won the game. Despite that crowd best not the first it did bother Jared in the first and the noise was problematic for the ramp was in the first quarter for sure, but they still found a way to Principia and get through. So even if they are able to provide bulletin board material, I just believe in my heart of my heart's of my heart to get something special. Sean, thank you. He's he's they serve it colour special coach, he's a good coach all those things. There's no question about it here. But he's going up against something, man. That is almost like, the unknown. It just it it you've seen in a million times you've seen it a million times. They marched down the field. No problem. They score. They get a phantom shoulder. Pad rub on the chest with being gay. Dr moving. I mean, it just is one of those thing which is why I'm so glad that they'd be Kansas. Yeah. I am too. But look I'm kind of on key side in this regard, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. A really scary guys there to not of the best to have ever done it. They're the two best guys that have ever done those jobs. No one has played quarterback better than Tom Brady. No one's been a head football coach in the NFL and had more success than Bill Belichick through the two best ever what they do. And if you walk down that road far enough, you're going to start to say, okay. Boy, what do we do here? He's going to have a game plan. He's going to have bulletin board. Material all the things he was saying this is why keep coming back to this. The Rams are better team doesn't mean they're going to win their other than quarterback and other than head coach. And I think the head coach conversation is much closer than the quarterback one. The Rams have better players. The Rams might not have the experience the Rams might not have been through this. But if you just go better position. Better better players in that matters. There's no question about it. But it matters to you play them patriots. I'm telling you. Yeah. Them do reason is scared. I don't want you to be scared about trying to pump fear into the Rams. I'll pull it for the Rams. I'll bobby. Okay. Rams all year loan to win the Super Bowl. Hello that. Why aren't going hometown team that I grew up watching the child did just time. They all I'm saying is I understand he got going on in the northeast. That's klay. Thompson had forty four last night against the Lakers. Mike Tyson joins us next Lakers. Get blown out last night. One thirty two one eleven Klay Thompson ten three pointers in a row to open the game. He finishes with forty four points. The old man. Michael thompson. Michael. How are you? Morts county, Mike what's happening. Doing good country club key. That's good. That's up bad. You let you you unleash ah son last night on the Lakers, man. Yeah. He you know, he he he lease. But it wasn't on the Lakers. Lakers didn't play last night the wheel lake Nozoe. No, Rondo nulla brand up was in a real game guys get healthy, and they have done that against the healthy Laker team. Then then we would be a story, but come on the Lincoln how to skeleton cool out there last night without zone. Lebron drawn. So you think but the skeleton crew knowing going into this game if they wouldn't have some of those other players at their disposal that Luke Walton wanted to use this game basically as a teaching tape. No, not at all not came out with hoping to compete like they do on Christmas day keeping out the markets didn't play Christmas day, but they went up to Oakland slap the warriors around of apple lebrons got hurt. So they beat them at full Spence before just last night. Klay got on one of those roles and them being short handed. They just couldn't overcome it last night. But last night wasn't it like a panic night the Laker fans because make offense knew that the real. Ker team was on the floor. Michael you mentioned the skeleton crew. And we don't know when guys are coming back. And you look at the schedule got Minnesota. You got Phoenix coming up after that. You've got some games against very very good teams. How do you compete? If these guys aren't coming back anytime soon, how do you compete when you've got half of your team in the trainer from. Well, they got you know, they went into Bill last night and that can happen, but they got to compete like they at Oklahoma City Houston at a task to win. Both games of the wars has got him last night on the bad night for the skeleton crew. But they show them that they can't compete and win until abroad and Rondo comes back and not be at home with the Minnesota coming in improved under Ryan and other teams after that before they go their road. They gotta win these next two or three home games before they go into that long road trip in February. I'm sure you're aware of the rumors about the supposed interest in Carmelo Anthony. Do you see any space for him and what he can do on his roster right now? Well, they would have to release somebody, and I think to see somebody lose their job. But if they decide to do that and bring Carmelo on. Yeah. We definitely could use a fair like element, you guys know mellow. I think is a man off the court on key is Madam known him. And so you to healthy all the circles important circles, you run it with lava and everybody else out there on the Hollywood crew. So and that was the great guy. He'd be a great locker room guy here and abroad of very close that that's gonna boost lebrons, you know, viral rhythms. And and and good feelings, I do it. And I think that'll have something to contribute to a contending team contending team. You don't wanna put him on cargo or or or or someone like that? But on the team that has playoff. Hi, playoff apparitions. He's got something to give. Well, who you gonna replacing with Michael Beasley of somebody like that? I mean, you'll swap out. Yeah. That's the problem. I mean, you don't want to ever the busy. He's playing. Well, these playing wealthy. Can't cut him Bongo is a drafted player. So he's tactically on the roster. So that would be the tough choice for Robin. Luke to have to make Michael Thompson joining us Michael visas zoo pots for the and it just seems it's more of an opportunity because like you mentioned there's so many guys that are gone, but he's committed for the last couple of weeks. He's been fantastic. Is this going to be something that they continue to use? You're gonna get minutes from this point out because he's played so well or when the though the regular start to come back in and start to play their typical minutes. Does he get squeeze out again either real thing man he can play? He's got soft touch on the basket. He by the young, I Marcus saw, you know, typical you're big man who has good fundamental hand a soft touch. So what you're saying from you is no fluke. And if it was up to me, I was starting my starting Senate because he's a walking automatic ten points in the first quarter. I don't know why they're hesitant to putting out there. Maybe that thinking defensively he's good at Dzhabrailov, check hyphen. But then he he sold officiant in the middle. And he's such a big target. I would started you. I think you hit the nail right on the. Head that, you know, whenever you see him in high screen rose situations is nothing he doesn't know. What to do? It doesn't seem like he can get can get there. So are you afraid at all that if you were to start him that you'll be giving up too many open three pointers to perimeter players in exchange for the twos. That he's going to give you on the bucket. Concerned coaching staff is how is he going to be able to justify density? But hey, he could learn I mean looking you'll catch and Marcus all these other big centers. They're not exactly came along on fleet or foot type centers, and they manage this. Well, so will you know, he learned how to use the size and how to space properly and those knowing that you can't get close to little quick guards. Like like, the L D grand is because you you'll the score right around guys like gate, but the us your sides still, you know, make difficult for guy that she locked the Lovie Michael now that we are approaching the second half of the season. And we don't still know about the bra. We kinda trying to figure that out where the Lakers need to be at when LeBron gets back on the court where where do they need to be around hovering? I would say right now, I think we're in ninth place. So we gotta be within one or two games of the AC because when LeBron and Rondo get back now London won't be back until it looks like late February early March when Rondo and LeBron get back out there. We could be with. Two games of the eighteen. I really believe when those guys get back on the ten game streets. You could go like seven three eight and to the broad and get right back into the playoff mix. But if we stay within two games of the eighteen you'll be fine. Michael go ahead. Go ahead. I was going to ask any absence of LeBron's James he's past few weeks. But basically a month if you will which player for the Lakers has impressed you during the stretch, and which one is disappointing you during the stretch. Look at the positive side like you and Keyshawn always looking at the negative. Who have disappointed me? In other words, you scare to say his name. Well scared is the right word. That's just say I don't wanna I don't wanna put negative thoughts in the young players money wants to accentuate the positive. I'd hate to play for you. You'd be telling me about hero. You can't play. Tell. Being on the floor. Yeah. I would tell you would. Yeah. But in the Athens of LeBron before he got hurt. Of course, lonzo's starting to come on the play more aggressively doing a great job of the shot. Kyle Kuzma like you always say L coups train as been ready on time right on schedule. You know? He he plays that Kobe cockiness. He just wants to get out of his way. And of course, new box. Those three guys have been the most impressive, Michael. I never there's never obviously a good time to get hurt. But it just seemed that Lonzo you just mentioned was on roll. I mean, he was playing really well he played three or four games in a row that had been really sharp and crisp his jumper with starting to fall at a reasonable rate. And he was attacking even that that game in Houston. He was at tacking the basket he was dishing at seven assists in that first period. And then all of a sudden it happens. Now does he just went when he's healthy? Whether it's four weeks six weeks, or whatever when he comes back is he going to be able to pick up right where he left off because it finally seemed like he had fully engaged for an extended period of time. I think muka called him in Brad in Ingham out about not being aggressive enough. Okay. Hold my beer as you would say Travis, you know, everything's been more graphic. And I think you'll pick it back up. He hasn't been hesitating on his shot. His shot is still good released, but he just catches and shoots without thinking. And it's been going with more consistency. So when I when he gets back sometime in and Deb ury on March. I think he's gonna pick it right back away left off realize I gotta stay aggressive because that's what Luke wants to be Rams on. They waited a Super Bowl, Michael. Planning against the New England Patriots. This is an easy call for you you taking in this game. This is a tough one. Because you know, the Rams are even though they had a lot of help from the six-man referee crew endows disappointing for you, and you and your nephew 'cause I'm a big Keyshawn and Michael Thomas fans kinda hoping that if they got like the seat, and I knew you'd be on the sidelines chaired on your nephew. But since they didn't get any help from the referees. And the Rams from real I'll be there. But I tell you that it's hard to go games time where the if the game is closed and it's coming down to the last couple possessions in the fourth quarter. How could you go against Tom Brady if he wins this over bowl key UB demand to ask L D? You can time into football Travis the baseball, but you gotta know little bit. If Brady wins this and he's Tom rating the Super Bowl, he what Bob Kraft. Right. Would he be is the greatest football player regarded the position I think so is it not ready any might be? I don't know you could quantify that. But I mean, we don't need to qualify. Do all that Michael very quickly Rosh floated an idea yesterday that I hated and I'm hoping that you can talk me off the ledge here because he's saying because Paki I'll looked right that we might see pack yell may whether again, there's no chance we get that. Right. Travis you, absolutely, right. There's no chance should get. I don't wanna see those old man's shadow boxing again L. I mean, what's going to change in Floyd look old against the angry borough has locked bite when he beat Bertel. So and he looked frail against the comic. Greg even though he beat them so forth forty one just not the same. I mean, listen, I don't wanna see it again. But I'm so stupid. I'm such a boxing idiot. I'm gonna pay for it and watching the spectacle, but nobody else nobody Claverie for the boxing world, say police have Manny pack. Yup. Floyd Mayweather to. Nobody's back and forth missing many pack ya and for may whether were both Lee at the game yesterday doing what they need to do visually to notice get the interest going and share had a nineteen year. Farewell tour I think between those two factors the pregnancy to fight. The only people who should be performing Lee passed the prime rolling. So nobody. Later, mike. Thanks, all right. Key. Rams caught a break with the no call should the Commissioner. 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"We have a lot to talk about banter show proper. Shall we as to your ear buds? A podcast about hockey featuring things to do with ocoee from your friends at it's espn on ice with what Shitski and Kaplan it's espn an ice. The podcast for talks about corona virus. I'm Greg Gerski. Send your NHL writer and then like Kaplan National Corona virus supporter and current a virus. So since we last joined you we you and Craig Customs talked about Krona virus at the NHL or the governor's no GM's meeting sorry and since then Santa Clara County banned all mass gatherings over a thousand people which means the San Jose Sharks are either GonNa play three home games in an empty shark tank or at a neutral site like the cow palace or on the road in opponents arenas or whatever. Women's world's was canceled because of Krona virus. The media are no longer allowed in the dressing room and have to now stand in many places behind a velvet rope to interview players in bic zones and podium situations and Germany. I your some fun. Germany cancelled that season. Just outright said. That's enough no more regular season. No more playoffs. We will not have a German champion. What they said in press release and as we were doing the show today even more municipalities including the state of Ohio recommending. That mass gatherings don't happen any longer although they've made the official proclamation like Santa Clara has in some cases. I think they're kind of trying to put the ball in the NBA court or the puck in the NHL and as it were to make them make the decision but ho boy. Crow virus is the biggest story in sports. Right now it sure is and I have to say since Creggan. I recorded that things have escalated quite quickly quicker than any of US could have imagined honestly like when I'm talking to build Elliott the GM meetings and he's telling me we're optimistic knock on wood. We'd never have to do anything dramatic. They're now considering and having to go through these contingency pans and things. That are very very dramatic. Now I'll talk about the media aspect of it. I some of you guys know I am on the Executive Board of the Peach Per Hockey's writers association joined to be having been a member. Contact me for cerebellar Chris Johnson. But it means that we are privy to some conversations about media access league and and what the League's thinking of it is We have been assured by NHL NHL leadership that this is just a temporary ban. There's some people who all of a sudden saw the reporters weren't allowed in the locker room and started screaming doom and gloom. They're limiting our access. This is the new president once they take us out. They're never going to let us back in. That is not the case. These are unprecedented times. We've never seen A situation like this escalate globally and it affect us in our workplace and this way we quite frankly haven't like the month was a an isolated outbreak in the NHL and SARS threatened to reach the Nhl but never quite got there and this is the NHL reacting I personally am not pleased by it. It's going to make my job a heck of a lot harder but I understand it. As it pertains to the women's World Championships cancelled it sucks. It sucks so bad for these women who are having one of the worst years professionally that they can imagine not only one hundred seventy five including the top players in the world boycotting play in a pro hockey league this season meaning. They're playing less hockey than ever less meaningful games. This remember the four nations tournament there other four Nations Cup there. Other big tournament cancelled in November because the Swedish team was boycotting their federation. So it really sucks for these players. I talked to Kendall Square Coin Scofield last week she was in Chicago. She obviously understood but it was really disappointed for her to see her season and so many for peer season. End This unceremoniously on the media thing. It's tough because anytime you or I or anybody else mentions it in the public square. The immediate reaction is a bunch of people saying that were complaining about it. Our thoughts and thoughts and prayers for now having to be eight feet away from these guys instead of three or stupid stuff like that and like he look. It's no secret that our jobs are affected by this but more to the point it shows the chasm between people who think that all we do is go into the locker room and be like tell me about your goal versus spending time in their building relationships and getting stories that frankly campy reported from the podium so hopefully it is temporary because I think people don't really recognize the kind of work that gets done in a locker room after the TV people ask their questions. No offense well yeah offensively. That sounds like a lot of people in in in questions and thanks thanks for because it means we don't have to the women's world thing. I found it really interesting. That the use the word postponed. Which isn't the right word like. Yeah the twenty twenty one world championships hopefully are going to be happening in Nova Scotia and yeah if you have tickets for this one you can use tickets the same tickets for that one in theory but also as they told me You know on a case by case basis you get refunds. That's a cancellation postponement There is no two thousand twenty champion. This there isn't having the players who were selected to these teams aren't necessarily guaranteed to be selected to the team's next year correct. Yes that was. That was sort of a weird deal. Here's the thing about the sharks of the fun interesting. I heard from NHL source today. That it's actually not up to the teams to figure out how they're handling this the NHL is going to be the one that says. Here's where you're playing. Here's when you're playing. Here's how you're playing so if the sharks are like we want to play a game at the cow palace the NHL has to approve that or sign off on it or say. Yeah. That's a good idea. Otherwise they're going to be the final arbiter on where these teams play. I don't think the sharks are going to be alone in this in this situation. I think it now is a is a deal where Santa says three weeks. I'm sure the municipalities are looking at this and made you the same thing to try to stem the the the outbreak but also more importantly by some time to start getting testing kits and treatment In place to handle the the epidemic. It's fascinating it's absolutely fascinating and and the sharks had this drop in their lap on Monday night. That's for sure they weren't prepared for this league kind of hinted that they thought it would happen. At some point where a municipality we would put a ban like this in place but the sharks clearly weren't expecting to happen this week. Maybe because they're going on a pretty prolonged road trip and coming back on the nineteenth. I don't know but it caught him by surprise. But again like you looking around this world emily right now like it started with the Swiss. Were they played the end of their regular season and empty arenas and then postponed their postseason for a few weeks until a ban on mass gatherings by the government passed of as you mentioned Germany canceling their season. I mean it is Naievety to believe that the NHL is not going to be affected by this outside of the San Jose. Sharks like this is going to be a situation where it is the tip of the iceberg and we probably have no concept of how many teams arenas and cities are going to be affected by this thing in the next month. It's so true you know the word at the GM meetings was that the NHL is going to take the lead of public health authorities CDC and got to get this right whatever. The equivalent is a candidate Public Health Canada Health Canada. Yeah we're going to be paying for the next three months so I better get this right. Yeah the sneeze mounties but luckily there's no secret about it. Nhl Makes most of their revenue millions and millions of dollars of revenue through their playoffs. This is their livelihood. They need to get this show to go on. And so little things leg limiting the access of reporters to the locker room. That's just to protect their assets their assets out of the players. The players play in the playoffs. The playoffs there were millions of dollars. They're in their best interest to get these playoffs to go on and then go on as normal because they don't WanNa slow any of the momentum this leak house. We saw them both that. They're about to raise the salary cap yet again. We're about to enter the thirty second team. That said it might be out of their hands and whatever the CDC and public health. Canada someone's got a tweet at me. Tell me I'm getting it wrong. Tell the NHL to do they're gonNA have to do. And so today the sharks practice their first since the order from Santa Clara Space built in between us and the players at the podium and the whole thing I was heartened to see the in house media for San Jose at these press conferences. 'cause here's the thing about the. I'M GONNA wind for a second if lake reporters were banned from the locker room but like the extension of the PR staff in House. Media was able to go around the room and she video and ask questions and get player reactions after games and stuff that would suck and that would be unfair and the other thing that would be unfair to walk past the locker room. Reporter is Dan from it but like the hangers on and the cousins of sponsors and minority owners ought to go in and get their water their jerseys in locker room after the game that would suck too. So hopefully that's not going to be the case and and and they just make it basically a nobody but the players in essential staff zone which is the way it should be. So we'll see how this plays out. I mean it's Kinda crazy that it's all happening and as Joe Thornton said I mean it's surreal to lake be in a community you've lived in for twenty years or whatever it's been for him and look around and runs on Toilet Paper. You understand. I went to four different places this weekend. I'm laying there's no toilet paper in Santa Clara County. That's wild but only question for you is because I haven't been around a team that's having to deal with this yet as we've seen in the NBA guys like Lebron James. Saying I won't play. I don't WanNa play in front of an empty arena. Where did the sharks players have to say about that? Only processed it yet. It's interesting one of the sharks is Timo Meyer who is Swiss? And I asked him today. I'm like have you talked to anybody. From the National League and Switzerland that played in those games where they didn't have anybody in the arena. He's like yeah I did. And they just said it was just strange like it was. It was a very surreal atmosphere. And you can't really get your bearings and the two things you heard from these guys or one. They don't really know what they want yet. Like Joe Thornton seem to indicate. He'd probably rather play in front of a crowd than no crowd. Which would speak to neutral neutral site games or maybe playing on the road but Abukar their coach at a real had a real good take on it. Which was that? The biggest issue is that if you're playing in an empty arena now all of a sudden you've got to figure out a way to get yourself going to self motivate. There's going to be any noise. There's not going to be in a crowd. There's not going to be a home-ice ice advantage like it completely. Changes the psychology of the game to basically play the game in a vacuum. And if you're a sharks player and you're going from one of the loudest well. I mean seasons in they win loudest environments in the NHL to utter silence. When you're on the ice against an opponent it's going to be a hell of a change for them and I truly think that that's at the end of the day. The best solution is to play in an empty arena. You know you get to sleep at home at the very least sear. Kids being the community. What have you not have to go somewhere? I think that's probably the smart also from a scheduling perspective given the spaces being taken at other arenas in the area and also wrote arenas I think the smartest decision is just the plan the empty building and do these three games and be over with now. Maybe it's an easier decision because the sharks are a country mile away the playoffs. It'd be different if they were on the bubble but I think that's all they're going to do and probably they're going to be alone and doing this. I'm speaking did you. Did you see what the devils put out today? Were they pretty much. Said you can come game. Yeah except if you think you're sick you've been around someone you've traveled recently like. That's a really tricky. To Walk and Weird precedent tended my opinion. Yea and what you hope that it's not simply just a bunch of cover your own behind type stuff like hey we told you off you know like like yeah either sell nobody to show or keep playing and have people assume the risk of going. 'cause this just seems like well. We told people who were sick. Not The the you don't know whether symptoms are like they could be carriers knows there's no tests anyways The funniest thing today by the way was Andrew Cane saying it would be very strange to play an empty building and this is a guy who played for the Atlanta thrashers. By far the funniest thing that was done today. Well that's a perfect transition for me because we do mention Evanger Cain with our next guest and she'll be interviews and now that we do and now joining us a very special guest. A listener of the PODCAST. I believe he can correct us if we're wrong but it's Patrick Burke the NHL Senior Director of player safety. Now Patrick. Are you listeners of the podcast? I listen to you guys while I'm running and then send you both tax correcting any mistakes you made during the course of the podcast at that can confirm can confirm. Yeah well thanks for joining US BUD. Because many questions we have you. Let's start with your GIG. Your player Safety Gig. George Perez has been a man under fire for a lot of people. Who Don't believe that player. Safety has doled out as many suspensions or as many lengthy suspensions as they should to try to correct behavior or punish offending players. I think that's fair to George. The second thing is there's a prevailing theory. There's too many guys that would be on the injurious side of plays that run player safety and that players say it would be better if there were more guys. Say like Paul Korea type in there. That were the victims of such place. What do you say that all right? Well we'll take it and both parts. Here's first part is Have people been fair to George and George knows that when you take this job? You're never going to be popular. You're always going to get a ton of heat and a ton of criticism because It's very rare that our department issues suspension and all sides are happy usually decide that the offending player thinks we went to hard. The side with the victim thinks we went to light Santa Ball teams media to cover. Both teams Tend to pick a side and go the same way so no matter what we do. It's pretty rare that People are GonNa Praise George our department but I think overall Having been here for seven years now works for Brendan Shanahan Stefan Control. Now George Hiding George done a fantastic job. He's a wonderful Boston and people inside the League. Who Know Him really have a ton of respect for them whether that's players general managers Those of us who work for them so I think George knows that he is part of the GIG. I don't think he's getting more heat than channel. Did you did going all the way back to the days of Coli or even my father doing it He comes with it. I don't think he's getting more than than they ever did. So as the part to First of all his Paul career ever expressed any interest in working for the League. His name keeps getting thrown out. He's he's sample what I did. But he's like surfing. I think he's very comfortable doing whatever he's doing. People are just saying that like when you got a thing with Pero some pronger and you know guys that used to throw elbows and punches versus. Take him that. There's a prevailing wisdom that maybe the player safety would be run differently if it was more victim based right so two guys who who's career were ended by head injuries. Don't count as what you're saying. Harrelson pronger no. I don't think that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that you know pronger was spended. You know in double digits in his career and and that may be a guy who who wasn't such an offending player would have a better sense of of what should be a suspension. And what shouldn't I heard that a lot I know it's not just your opinion A few thoughts on that first of all. I think it's a misconception. You can predict how a player feels about supplemental discipline boy. Based on the style of play that they played We've had a rotating group of directors since I've been here As well as constantly talking to former players GM's current players And one of the things that I found is a lot of skill players Don't WanNa take any physicality out of the game whether that's the notion that they had to fight through it so the current guy should have to as well whether they just enjoy the physical aspects of the game but I've worked with or and communication with a lot of very highly skilled alums. Who Don't think that we should be increasing amount of supplemental discipline and actually many of whom think we might have gone too far so I I'm not sure that the these guys who played a skill game necessarily will would be upping the number of suspensions To us a couple examples without getting into how they view plays Currently on our staff is Ray Whitney a I would say pretty highly skilled guy over a thousand points in the NHL We also have Brian Leetch on staff my first year here There's a skill element in our department. There are guys giving advice giving their input on plays in our department who played that style of play so Do I think that we have to change the boss to make sure that it's someone who got hit a lot or was particularly skilled. No I think the things that you're looking for in a Senior Vice President of player safety. Our intelligence Communication skills hockey knowledge the ability to connect with players And the ability to to be thoughtful and things through Plays and Howard. Disciplinary process is going to affect the league and how hockey is played on the ice and the big picture and I definitely think we have that with with the group. We have between George defunct Intel. Ray Whitney Damian Etcheverry etta and myself has the senior staff. I think we have a really good group of really good balance and a nice mix. That's doing a good job keeping the game face possible Patrick. You mentioned you. Guys are no strangers to criticism. You hear it all the time but there are some pretty high profile Critiques headed your way about a month ago from a vendor Kane who I will note is a repeat offender but he called out the apartment of player safety for our quote a completely flawed system. He said from those suspensions to the appeal rights. It's baffling to me. How we as players agreed to this. He essentially called for an independent third party to make these decisions to quote for. Move that bias. That transpires in this department headed by George Soros. So when you the rest of the senior staff you hear him say this. He put it out on twitter. What's going through your mind Not all that much to be honest I I think that you know we certainly saw we read it we talked about it but I don't think that you know. We saw anything more than a frustrated player. Who's on a team? That's having a frustrating season and and is looking to to lash out of it but I think there's You know the the sharks are not having the season. They anticipated I wonder if evanger salvage season. He was hoping for and he's frustrated. And that's that's understandable so A bit of that got directed at US but There's been no strong feedback from anyone that we talked to force substantial amount of change George talks regularly with Gm's the NHLPA and with players to get feedback. You know a couple of years ago. We did a team tour where we visited every. Nhl Team George Met with all thirty one teams and gave him the chance to ask questions. Raised complaints Left an anonymous survey To try and figure out if there were things that guys wanted to be done differently and the response from GM's from the NFL PA from those players is that that things are good. That's While we while we may come under fire for individual decisions The process itself is good Everyone seems happy with Over all the decisions we're making and you know when someone gets suspended. They're not going to be happy their team's not going to be happy but they're you know evanger put those comments out there and then it kind of went away. There wasn't a groundswell of support. There weren't a flood of players calling the NHL or calling their general managers to agree with them. And say you know we gotta use this and fix it it just Kinda went away so we saw it for what it was which is a frustrated player. upset with the decision wanting to vent and we all just move on with our lives. Did you guys reach out to a vendor at all? Because there's clearly a disconnect of what he believes you guys do and what your actual processes did you try to clear the at all I don't know if George stood out to the fact that I know he ended vander. Talked a couple of different times this year. about The legality of plays the way that vander plays and trying to help him understand what to do to avoid being suspended and this was before is suspension. So one of the things are department tries to do is to be proactive. And if we see players who are playing on the edge or Hitting a certain way or getting close to to supplemental discipline a lot of times. We'll have someone from the department. Call Him and just say hey. Here's what we're seeing a lot of recently. Just be aware that you know you haven't crossed the line yet but if that happens You might be hearing from us. So it's a courtesy to the players to to try and educate them On what they might be doing I know George said that the vendor earlier this year And gave him the time to reach out and talk about styles of hitting and and how to safely avoid Hitting a player in the head. I don't know I don't believe that George reached out since then But I know he has talked to Shark Staff Doug Wilson and other people in the organization sent to to discuss it and I think everyone's happy with With where it's landed. Some people are curious how you folks determine the punishments for some of these incidents and in particular what what goes into the call to make something a fine rather than a suspension on the degree of what we're seeing To to the honest I mean the the things that we look at on every player. First and foremost was rule broken You know we see a lot of hits that we might not like Maybe they're unnecessary. Plays or maybe they're kinda scummy plays And we might not like them. We might say Fred to use an easy example if you throw a big hit at nineteen fifty nine of a period. There's no need to throw that an unnecessary cats. There's a second last in the periods but there's no rule against the clock goes to pointing minutes for for a reason. You believe that a lot with one second left. And what's that? You play to the whistle exactly so we see that a lot with one second left in the game somebody drills a guy in the corner and everyone's mad and we're looking at that you know those are ones that former players Ray in Georgia and Q. Or looking at going like. Why are you gotTa do that? Just leave the guy alone. You don't have to do that but no rule was broken. So first and foremost on all these places. We have to figure out what the rule broken. Then we're looking at things like You know I I would say forced is probably the most important thing And I think that's where a lot of times there's confusion around our decisions because people are looking at two plays and they're going. Oh you know. This was a an elbow to the face. And this was an elbow to the face and was A fine one was a suspension. And it's very hard to quantify. We think this guy hit him. Five thousand dollars worth of hard and this other guy hit him one game worth of hard. But that's kind of what we're doing on a lot of these is the the forest here Is Different between the two We look at things like the intent on a play We talk a lot in our. Did he does about a hockey player versus a non hockey play. Or are you going in trying to throw illegal body? Check to separate the guy from the puck or are you doing something completely unnecessary after the using your stick in a way that Uh is just completely unnecessary. Is on an unsuspecting employer Someone who's not prepared for the contact that type of thing Those are all things that we'll look at once we've established that role is broken so You know the the fine limit is something that we're not always Happy about I know. Fans see that a lot where Player crosschecks somebody up high and gets a two thousand dollar fine and we see tweets like. Oh that's in his couch cushions or You know everyone's confused by sixteen cents tacked onto the end of a fine for a player So to clarify that briefly we are allowed to find players up to one half of one day's pay up to five thousand dollars out of hearing enough to ten thousand dollars if we have it here so for a lot of players in the league the maximum. We're allowed to find them. Isn't that two or three thousand dollar range that's a? Cbs negotiated Limit the that were Capped by so there are times when we think play doesn't quite a one game suspension. So we do want to do something. So we know that a two thousand dollar fine might not be the most punitive saying we can do but it gets the player on the record. He's informed that he's not supposed to do that We can track The players are doing those types of plays and it's what we're limited by by the CBS. Patrick something else. That falls into your purview is the NHL skills at all star. And I think one thing our listeners don't know as you were instrumental in getting Kendall Coyne Scofield to do the fastest lap which obviously was conic moment but I want to know about the regular skills. What is the hardest skill to convince players to want to participate in? And what is the easiest one when you've got to convince them like? Hey you got to do something like this is the scale you should do it. All Star all right well a slightly more fun topic than the supplemental discipline. So this'll be nice. W- balancing the anger. I care and then we're going to swing it back at the end and hit me with something hard once I once I heard the show Yeah so along with Steve Mayor. Who's the chief content officer for the NHL? And you know. A whole team of people obviously The two of US Kind of spearhead. The skills competition The easiest skill to get a player to participate and is anything that doesn't involve much movement This year even though there were some nerves with it being a new event. A Lotta guys wanted to do shooting stars There was a lot of Demands To be in something that involves taking your skates off being in jeans and just shooting pucks without having to move conversely the hardest one skater I will say the last couple of years. We've had a great group. There are some young guys who come into the League who were so excited to do. Fastest Skater members would do fastest skater. Every day of the week if we allowed it You know when he made his first all star game their PR guy called and he'll do everything and he wants to win. Fast Skater and I was like great. Love Matt Bars L. Great Attitude So there's been some young guys who come in Italy who are enjoying it more but generally because that's the only one where you get winded That has been the least popular. One to get guys participated. What's Your Whitewell? What's your one player that you'd love to cast in skill competition but he's always said now I mean I wouldn't say players have said no the one thing that we talk about Internally a lot is whether we should just be bringing the fastest skaters to all star and the hardest shooters to all star and actually do a a league wide test. You know charro verse Weber. Verse Perico Verse Pullach on a few guys in there Martin Burke For Heart Shot. And then you know name your ten fast disguise For Fast Skater Obviously there's a lot of Of reasons not to do that but every every guy's been pretty good. We've had to cajole some guys and and make some trades of if you do this for me this year. You never have to do it again. Which is why if you go back and look one year Nathan MacKinnon did hardest shot because brand out of people and now makes gets to choose what he does every year. I'm because he despite is very famous line of Burki. I shoot muffins I can't do that. stepped up and did it for me anyway so He gets to kind of take event Every year going forward because he. You really don't miss out on that one. I want to say he was concerned. He wouldn't break the nineties and I wanna say he drew doughty both ended up at like ninety two ninety three So not our best harder shot contests ever but nate. There's another one of those guys who's like how do whatever you want. Whatever helps whatever Makes us a better experience for the fans? And we love that attitude. What are you going to do with top golf? Shooting Stars Competition next year to make it more. Well make it better. I think we have to tweak a couple of parts of it obviously I think that It was exactly what we were hoping for and that. It was visually spectacular. It was like nothing we've ever seen At a hockey game it was a built for TV and social media of that We need to change the scoring obviously we didn't Anticipate players just only shooting at The one target over and over and over again So we need to change the scoring up a little bit And change how the targets kind of look and function but overall I knew we had a good event because every year on the bench. My father just text me like this sucks so-and-so's slow this guy's not trying hard. You shouldn't have put him in this event and during shooting stars he didn't tax anything at the end of the night. It's the what did you think of that about like you know. We're we're getting some mixed reviews. And he goes. I really liked it at her. Oh we got. We got a grumpy seventy year old on board with this. We must be doing something right here. That's the target audiences. Big Berkey with the endorsement right. Listen TO TARGET. The target audience is kids. But if you can get the grumpy old guys on board as well then everybody wants. There's a couple. Nhl Things that happen every year that transcend the sport and make it onto our airwaves. Whether it's I take around the horn. Pti It's usually something like emergency backup goaltenders or anytime. Gritty shows his face but one of them did intersect with your department and that was the battle of Alberta. What do you think is that good for hockey bad for hockey? All the antics that involves That serious I think that Teams that don't like each other Create some good hockey i. I think that it's part obliged the NHL has made the playoff matchups the way they are because familiarity breeds intensity and and we like intensity we like competition. We like legal physicality What we don't like is one players crossed. The line one players get into The Romo supplemental discipline and when You know we have to have hearings or or issue finds so it's a definitely a tough line to walk at times and there are some players. Do an amazing job to to walk that line of always being on the edge of physical but never quite crossing that line And in the battle they'll BERTA. We had a couple of players who crossed that line and our department was there. We stepped in we. Issued discipline is necessary but in the subsequent games when there was still a good amount of dislike for each other when there were still A good amount of intensity and physicality in the game No-one cross the line so We liked that. We like those games. We like to see Physical intense hockey would just like to see it done legally you you were always previously instrumental in the you can play organization. You've always been a driving force behind. The scenes on diversity and inclusion hockey is for everyone kind of thing was curious about your thoughts with regards to the Saint Louis Blues. Who are the only team? Now the sabers set of doing one. The only team that did not have a hockey is for everyone celebration during a home game. They're doing during viewing party and yet found time to have three different boy scout nights. I was wondering how how you felt about that with the blues. Because I left you can play a couple of years ago and I'm not Involved in the day to day there i. I don't know what the process was behind that. I know that when I was there the blues were very supportive. Very helpful Doug Armstrong it's been a good friend of the family a long time and was was incredibly helpful on a few different things that you can play over the years so I don't know what the decision making process was there. I can't speak to it I know they have been incredibly helpful and support in the past on these initiatives and they might have just been scheduling thing they. They did just win the Stanley Cup. In and there's a lot going on Obviously I I hope that every team in the league recognizes the importance of diversity and inclusion nights. Not because they sell tickets which they do. But even if they didn't it would still be the right thing to do To make make sure that underrepresented groups in the hockey world feel welcomed and included In our arenas something that the league takes very seriously Kim Davis who heads up all of our diversity and inclusion initiatives for the League does is such an amazing job of constantly advocating both publicly and behind the scenes to keep pushing things along to keep encouraging everyone to take the next step and I think we've seen that I mean when you look at what the first couple you can play nights were where it was. You know you guys can get twenty tickets. And maybe we'll acknowledge you on the scoreboard at some point to You know every year now. Madison Square Garden is is lit up with Rainbow Lights and Carolina. Hurricanes twitter account was was phenomenal and Aggressively advocating for wide diversity and inclusion is important For the Carolina Hurricanes and We've seen the window move from will do this if you leave us alone to. This is something that's important to our organization and the League Through leadership here from Gary Bettman to Kim Davis to Jessica Berman who just left to go to the National Lacrosse League but The number of people on their team here who are constantly pushing Everybody in the hockey community forward The only other note on hockey is for everyone that we didn't touch on real quick is how good was kate. Scott the other night On the all female broadcast for for NBC I knew AJ was was phenomenal. New KENDALL IS PHENOMENAL caps and tapping And Jennifer Bachelor or both amazing job for Kate Scott go in calling for I Nhl Game and play by play with a crew that she hasn't worked with before and to be that good I've known kate for years so I I might be a little biased here but I think hockey would be Lockheed. Adver full-time is the play by play person. Because she was not just okay. I texted her after I said I was prepared to lie to you. God Damn God damn where you get at that job so I hope she just. I've got a good voice so those are two good the nominal. Yeah just she knows how to pace the games you know her. Nato for calling a game. It's unbelievable I hope somebody. Who has the authority hires her to do? Full-time play by play in hockey. We can get her out of basketball but I really appreciate the time as always you guys keep reaching out anytime you WanNa talk player safety. We we love being a transparent department. We Love Answering questions reach out anytime of myself or anyone else from our staff back on anytime and thank you for having our thanks to Patrick Burke for fielding all of our questions Patrick told us after the interview that he was over caffeinated. I felt the same to me from previous conversations. Them he was early caffeinated. I what was most interesting to me that he said I like. You know. It's funny like you could. I think people don't quite understand behind the scenes how passionate he is about the skills competitions and I'm happy people cut. It could see that because when you and I bump into him. He's All Star Games. There's a certain sort of like childish glee that he has in trying to pull the energy. Yeah okay there's also like a boiling Irish anger about guys not participating in the things they want them to but there's also a childish glee being able to pull off this show every year and I think people got a sense of that from that that question you asked so that's always good segue into viruses. People getting sticks to the face it's GonNa be about these teams in the standings really do a little superlatives for the NHL. As we reach the final weeks of the season I up emily. The team overall playoffs playoffs. That you're most surprised by in a positive way. Well as a record. This is a playoff team. And that would be the Minnesota wild. No idea how they're doing this with the mostly roster that Paul Fenton created for Bill Garin Minus Jason Zucker one of their players. They traded away. You know. I talked to Garin early the year where they're having that little bit of Iran after they're really really poor start and he's saying you know. Everyone told me that I should blow the whole thing up. I was just going to stay patient issue where we have and look great. We are then. They started sucking. They fired their coach. And somehow they've climbed their way back out of it again as I mentioned after they've traded zookeeper. I've learned that Zouk or not suckers. I'm really going to try to work on that. I think you've been doing it right the entire time. One of the guys. That is really impressed. Me As Kevin Fiala. He's finally looking. Like that vaunted prospect. He's found his way in the NHL. He's scoring goals. Goaltending has been great for them and I don't know if they can make a playoff run but even if they make the playoffs this year I would say that's total victory for them and they're on the right path for sure and it's funny like Garin. Fires Bruce Road to get a better sense of who these players are. And the answer Larry Result. Is they all want to prove that? They're awesome and they ended up being a playoff team. The one interesting thing about the wild and I'm right in the piece about in for next week that I found when they were in town recently. IT'S I. I was trying to figure out why they're so good offensively now like their defense remains pretty good as it wasn't redrew. Their elephants is absolutely taken off since divas took over and the sense I get is that he has preached this to the core for these guys and they've taken it to heart. If you'RE GONNA make mistakes make it in the offensive zone. Just take a chance like like. Don't worry about screwing up if you're screwed up trying to score a goal and these guys took the heart and the results. Offensively are just incredible beyond theology beyond what we've seen from him. Everybody seems to be scoring at least getting scoring chances. At a rate that they did not get under Bruce drove so Kudos universum a guy who I always thought could make a pretty good head coach but ultimately maybe isn't you know a friend of Billie in order to get that job after the season team. One thing I I can't believe I just one more thing on the wild. Oh please go ahead. It was a little juicy nugget that I heard of the GM meetings because everyone was wondering why they fired police patrol when they did. It was kind of weird timing. Why when you've done it sooner. They were on a little bit of a streak at the time. Lodhi de la de la. Do you know the the reigning theory is is that they would be in this position. They would actually make the playoffs. And he was a pending. Ufa The slobber and they'll Garrett would have to bring him back and he didn't want to bring them back so that's eight cups when he did. Oh Yeah no definitely a theory that was banded about when he was fired was how uncomfortable it would be if they make the playoffs. Which by the way in talking to some people around the team. They kind of feel like this uptick would have happened if he was there to potentially and then what do you. Bill Garin was predicting it. Then what do you do afterwards? And it's a fair it's a fair point and he's not billy's guy and it probably saved them smoke after ability after the season teams the blues. I Yeah I figured they'd be good. I figured they'd be a playoff team. I did not think it was going to be one of those cup and then out of the playoffs type situations. I didn't think they'd be first division at this point. That's a real people are always like lightning in a bottle twice. And they haven't necessarily captured lightning in a bottle twice I mean look at Jordan Bidding. Thens save percentage. But they've definitely played really really well and done so without Vladimir Tarasenko. Which is the most incredible part of this whole equation so I would say the blues would be my biggest surprise on the positive side the reigning Stanley Cup Champs. Yeah I was just waiting for their hangover to set in. And it's like when you go drinking everyone's dead the next day and the group tax and they're like I'm dead. I'm dead and someone's like weird. I just got back from the gym and I feel Great Blues Right now. Who is who is the team that you are most disappointed. In man it's the Arizona. Coyotes a graphic that was going around on twitter today. Of what their record was before the Taylor Hall trade versus the devils and what it is post was quite depressing and look. There's no doubt that there's a correlation between the Arizona. Coyotes getting incredible goaltending and then that losing and losing Rhonda and Kempner around the time that hall came in but they put so much resource so much effort so much emphasis on making the playoffs this year. Getting Kinda slow getting Taylor Hall. And the fact that they are where they are right now on the outside look again. It's disappointing to me. Yeah I would agree with that and also you know like you said there was so much work done to try to fix their shooting percentage problem and then you know offense being once again a challenge for them this season by most disappointed teams San Jose. Sharks I I mean they cratered. They basically cratered. They made financial decisions. That cost them a number of guys in the summer. Be Polski via Donskoy. Be Nyquist. Whomever Justin Braun. It's hard to imagine a San Jose Sharks team not being competitive being an also ran and firing their coach and season. And yet here we are. So it's it's striking to think about where they are and it's striking to think about the work that Doug Wilson's going to have to do to try to surround this team with the type of talent. They're going to need to turn things around next season so I I would say most disappointed by the San Jose. Sharks also disappointing. Obviously because I lived there and there won't be any playoff rounds for me. Which means won't be able to see sneakers for for a while. Welcome to my world no playoffs in Chicago you. Who is the team that you low key can't get enough of man? I'm going back to my high school self and I can't help myself but wash every single ranger's game right now hoping that they get in I love watching Paren- play. I love watching because a better dad play. I was on the edge of my seat during a five goal game and Derek in now that he's back struggle bed after his first game back from the RIB injury but he's dynamite as well so I am super rooting for them to make the playoffs because I would just love to see it. It'd be awesome and again like way ahead of schedule. And if they make the playoffs as you know emily that means we can vote for Aaron with a clear contents for the Hart trophy. Toronto's the team. Look you can get enough of. I love watching them. There's so much fun because they're horrible defensively and they have amazing offensive players and the constant drama and will the goalie make a save and ways to kyle dubious without glasses on looking frustrated. Like all of it just all all of that. Burgeoning soap opera is something. I can't get enough of it. I think I probably watch the leaves more than any team this year when they're on just because I know I'm going to see some some weakness in some way shape or form finally good team. You're pretty sure can't win the Stanley Cup. I'm surprised they're a good team. But for me it's the Edmonton oilers. They are looking good there. You know they were Kinda Toe with Vegas at the top of the Pacific Division. I think the lost last night shows the Vegas is the team to beat but they just keep leaving their goaltender out to dry and they don't have good enough goal tending to allow that to happen. They had a series of three wins against Winnipeg Dallas Columbus where they won but they were outshot one hundred and thirty two seventy three. That's not a sustainable style and we can talk a lot about. Oh it's just two man team. It's that dry. Settle mcdavid show. They don't get any help but it's far deeper than that so I think they're gonNA make the playoffs. Obviously I think they can beat a team or two but I just don't see them breaking Canada's longstanding drought of Stanley Cups. Yeah I'M GONNA go with Colorado which will not be a popular pick and probably easy all saying that. I'm saying this because Ray bork devils in two thousand who cares. Listen two thousand one by the way. I don't think this is a team that knows that a win yet. I feel like this is a call. I feel like when I look at Colorado. I'm looking at a team that needs to get knocked on. Its behind the conference finals before it knows how to run. That's how I feel about Colorado and that might be my wrong read. Maybe they're good enough to win this year. They seem like that team that needs to go play that seven game series get. They're heartbroken and game seven in the conference. Final come back next year and now they're winning like every cup like that's the kind of team that feels to me. Maybe I'm wrong. I hear you on that. Now it's time for a favorite of the week Phil Kessel. Hot dogs to eat hotdogs. Weekly look at sad and strange. Good it's Phil. Kessel loves hotdogs part of this show each week where we look at the foibles hyperbole and gigantic mistakes of the hockey media and by. Golly do we have a mistake this week. Keeping with our corona virus theme for this week's episode the San Jose Mercury News published a story about Santa Clara County banning mass gatherings of more than a thousand people and included this paragraph according to the SAP Center's website all events at the SAP center have been cancelled for the month of March which includes three sharks games. And then a bunch other stuff problem number one. This was nowhere on the website. Not Anywhere nowhere to be found not a single word that even came close to saying that all the events in March have been canceled now a Tony Robbins motivational speaker performance or for were cancelled but not every event in March was canceled problem too. They would not cancel sharks games. Maybe we postpone them or move them. Canceling Sharks Games means at the sharks would play seventy nine games the season. That's what cancel means for them three since they were the first out of the gate with a story and people know to go to the mercury news for shark stuff. All of Canada picked up this stuff about sap center canceling their entire March calendar. Which Meant Yahoo. Sports wrote a story around it which meant Tsn tweeted a thing about so. Now it's like garbage out more garbage spread all because of of horrible reporting. They only corrected the story about an hour later but the damage was already done. So the San Jose Mercury News for horrible reporting in the middle of a crisis. I guess you can call it gets Phil. Kessel loves hotdogs this week bad stuff. Emily asked me not great. Bob Alright now it's time for headlines Dateline goalscoring race. The Vegas odds on who will win the rocket. Rashard TROPHY DAVID. Pasternak plus one fifty Alex Ovechkin Plus One seventy-five Austin Matthews plus two seventy five. Leon dry slight a plus. Nine hundred meek is a bandage at plus five thousand. I give you twenty bucks. Emily replacing Mika does win the goal scoring title. Yeah plus five thousand win. A lot of money Strew I go matthews. And he's done the majority of his goalscoring on home ice and beginning tonight against the lightning The leafs play eight of their last thirteen games on home ice. So I'll go with Austin Matthews to win his first goal scoring title Dateline Social Media. Awesome Matthew said this week. If you're not feeling good about your gain or maybe you had a couple of turnovers. Probably don't check your twitter. Mentions and see all the profiles with no pictures actually shredding your life in half. What are we thinking about Austin Matthews even to go on social media after at least of ways loss? He's brave man. I love it though I love. New Love is the brutal honesty and the fact that we're showing personality and that he's a real person. I think we all know that it's all in Austin to show that side of himself. He's kind of been tampered down. Probably because of the constraints of being in Toronto so just to see a rock quote like that reminds me like yeah. This is a real dude and I'd like to see more of it. Thorough one's GONNA find Michener's on talk. You seem like the kind of guy that might talk doesn't he? Yes for sure. Right Right Demographic GonNa find out if Mitch martyrs somewhere doing renegade or Cannibal Dateline and. Bcs N. You went behind the scenes of the first all female broadcast for NBC ascend. Not only on air talent off air talent. Yeah One of the coolest things about it is obviously we pay so much attention to kate. Scott doing play by play Kendall in AJ Doing analysis and Catherine tap into Jennifer author studio but there were so many women behind the scenes. Nearly thirty worked it overall and a lot of these women pretty much. Everybody except for kids got to play by play because they had to pull it from another sport because women just don't do play by play in the NHL yet All Work Hockey Games all season long. But they don't get the opportunity to work together so that was a really neat component of it to me. That's awesome Dateline the playoff bubble. I wrote about changing the playoff format this week. Interviewed a bunch of people about it expanding it to play in games. Maybe fiddling around with the current format to go from the divisions back to the conferences or even a one through sixteen format which Seth Jones seems to like the thing. I discovered emily which I thought was weird. How many people don't want the playoffs expanded a lot of fans just straight up angry about the idea that when we reach thirty two teams that maybe more than than sixteen to get in which to me is nuts? I know that I'm an old. I know that I remember like nine thousand nine hundred ninety when we're putting like sixteen at twenty one teams into the playoffs but the idea that it's somehow an affront to all things competitive in an equitable to try to put in more than half the league into the playoffs. I mean apparently so for van even though I think it'd be fun now it's an interesting conversation. Yeah as you mentioned what is interesting is that the NHL as it expands. Its you know league. It doesn't keep of the ratio playoff team. So Fifth Seems Fair but with the team of the most parody may be out of humour end. Wouldn't be the worst thing. All right. Finally Dateline Girl Scout Cookies. It's girl scout cookie time my daughter. My daughter didn't have enough people in her troop in order to sell girl scout cookies. Which I didn't even know it was a thing. I thought you had just had like one person. You could send them out to local supermarket and set up a ten start selling cookies but apparently not one has to go. This is from the New York. Post one has to go. You will throw this cookie into the sun it will no longer exist thin mints. Samoa's tag alongs does He. Does those those are the oatmeal peanut butter sandwiches that they have tag along the peanut butter chocolate. Samoa's courses awesome coconut ones thin mints self explanatory. Which one goes. Obviously the DOC- does and I? I say that with great regret because it's a really fun were to say does he does. But nobody really like anything without meal in it so goodbye dosing dose would if I swapped out does he does for the shortbread cookies. Does that? Change your mouth shortbread cookies. They're simple but just really tasty so who goes then attacked them and get rid of tag along simos within. That's Samoa's got. Just the does he does does. 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Its over for the Golden Knights

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Its over for the Golden Knights

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Is Hockey fans. This is the golden podcast, the PODCAST, the Las Vegas Review, Journal Talks About playoff hockey one last time because we are discussing the end of the Western Conference final and thus the end of the Golden Knights season I have been on View Review Journal Golden Knights beat writers on the other line is my colleague Dave Shane Dave I feel like I'm almost in a state of shell shock a little bit right now I wasn't sure a lot of tonight if the topics that we're going to end up addressing are the topics that we would be addressing in this posting podcasts I mean, how are you feel? Coming into this. Will be divorced. He didn't even have A. Post game speech prepared in case they lost. So I think nobody was really ready for cutting came as a shock and mean, you know you think back and more than a year ago. They were reporting for training camp and you know you go through everything that we've gone through in two, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty in the pause and. The way of the summer in and get to this point haven't bandits. It's just yeah it does feel like. A little bit of having really processed at all I guess it's GonNa take a little bit I. Think can only imagine for the players in for for the staff and for the team. Right absolutely for all those guys the basically sacrificed a lot to go up into that bubble in Edmonton and try to win the Stanley Cup. Of course, they will now not do that because the Golden Knights season is over after a three two overtime loss in game five against the Western Conference. Final Against The Dallas. Stars. The Stars win the series four to one before we dive deep into the game a quick reminder that eagled news. PODCAST is sponsored by the Decastro Verde Law. Group. We are also presented today by Pepsi indeed in favour shot favorite drink favorite dot com also please check out all are written work at Review Journal. Dot. com We have multiple stories going up online. As we speak we'll have more stories going forward into the season here on the Golden Knights also please rate your subscribe whatever you to podcasts cleese due to this one we really appreciate it. Getting into the game, the knights took to nothing lead fifteen seconds into third period. But Stars Captain Jamie Ben brought his team back within one and then a rookie kind of playoff scoring sensation joke round the scored a powerplay goal to tie things up with three forty seven left in the third period. Then things wouldn't overtime in two fifteen into the extra session Zach White Cloud got. Called for kind of for him in unfortunate delay of game penalty, the PUCK deflected office stick in out of play. Now, by the letter of the rule book, that is a delay of game penalty. If the PUCK goes off a defensive player Stich in the defensive. Zone that is delay of game. Of course, that penalty is in the rule book to prevent a defensive player from. Kind of flipping the puck out of the defensive zone kind of trying to get a cheap whistle there. In case, things aren't going their way when they're on defense that was obviously not the case with white cloud. But by the letter of the rule book, you had to go to the penalty box and the stars and specifically Dennis, Korean enough took full advantage. He scored the star second power play goal of the game to send them off to the Stanley Cup final the knights who started this season eleven into in a their first. Thirteen games finished two in six in their last eight playoff games before we give you our thoughts on the game. Let's hear from some people directly involved I up. Here's tonight's coach Pete Divorce. This game along the rest of the series We just couldn't could never get that next goal. To extend it. Was Two nothing. To, one bowl. Patch, went in alone. You know they got they got to save their and. We just could never get that next girl to extend. The lead or get out in front enough in the series of. You have to give them credit I. Think they. They won the net fronts. In both ends. You know they were better around their own net against our forwards and. They were better. Net Tough. On are defensemen Neil that's where the. The two goals were. So, there's the knights coach with some of his thoughts on the game. Now, let's hear from nights. Right wing Riley Smith. Timely. Goals on. Tight series I think. Probably played them for ninety percent of it but. This court time goals in. Cost US we weren't scoring they were. After goals in front of our net, we weren't doing that. Riley Smith Kinda summing the salaries up there a day of ultimately I guess, just what do we make of this western conference final this year a lot of close games and ultimately the aggregate score when you kind of take a step back. was only nine, two, eight stars. The Stars outscore the nights by just one goal in this series. But yet it was over in five games the night scored. Three goals in game two, the one game they one of this series and in five goals in the other four. So I guess what is your overall assessment or the best one? You can kind of come up with still. On the night of this game. Yeah I mean I think he laid out pretty well, just how close? The series was and all those numbers show that I think you know would would stands out from unity. They go a little bit hand in hand is at the key moments. In these series, the stars executed they may plays whether it was killing a penalty whether it was scoring goal when they needed to to get you back in the game. Answering nights goal or getting a one nothing lead early in the in game one being able to write just every kind of key moment and there weren't a lot of them in this series because like we've talked about, it was kind of a you know to use the phrase alot events series of wasn't a lot of back and forth high-octane chances either way in in every single time. That's the. Execution kind of came into is there was a key moment. The stars seem to to come through in the to their missed the net or or took a penalty the wrong time or just you know didn't get a safe like every little tiny thing seem to to bite them in the in the body I a little bit and then to. Is just the stars top players especially once they were reunited once bonus put that first line to get other Reggie Love Sagan Ben. The Starr's top players came through when they needed into and the Golden. Knights top players didn't and you know it's harsh. It's being critical and you know I'm sure there's fans that in. are going to say, well, the blame should be here. The blame should be there and it's you know. There's plenty to go around and it's it's not like I'm assigning blame say but. Numbers are numbers and like the. talked about like Riley Smith, we just heard from him and and the offense just wasn't enough. Credit doubtless. But that's ultimately you know what? It came down to the stars stars. Scored win win. They needed to in the night stars did. Yeah I mean I think Jamie. Ben. The stars captain is if there is theoretically a western conference final MVP I think he would have won IT A. As he probably would have wanted among skaters I think Anton Khudobin. The stars goaltender would have actually went with a bullet now that I'm kind of thinking out loud here. But Jamie Ben in terms of skaters was by far the best skater in this series and I thought that line was excellent wants rick bowness reunited them. They were just it seemed like on the ice all the time as the stars were pushing for the tying goal late in the third period and for the most part of their really successful at generating chances against the Knights on one thing that stuck out to me in the post game. Press conference that we both attended theism I. Think this was somewhat just being courteous but bore mentioned that in terms of the offense he was sure there were some things he could have done differently but I mean I'm curious as you know the two of us who are impartial looking at this from afar literally because we watch this marked homes in the Las Vegas Valley as opposed to in Edmonton I mean is there something that you think that bore is going to look back in this series and be kicking himself for I mean I think? The big one that you kind of had briefly mentioned earlier of this series was a lot of low event hockey. I mean, ultimately when the knights coach go back in poor over the tape, are they gonNa may be regret not trying to open this up more or is this just a case of as he also kind of talked about where you know maybe the ideas were fine but just the execution was not there compared to what the stars were able to do. So I think it's easy for us to say I think it's you know for us to say they should have opened up and and all those sorts of things it is easier said than done and I tried to explain. Maybe it was my dad or somebody I. Don't remember, but I made a comparison of like. The AIDS Hermit and somebody's GonNa play Wisconsin and I don't care if they average eighty nine points or something like that. They're gonNA play Wisconsin you know what? The game's going to be in the fifties or sixties because the slow team just always kind of dictates that and it's a little bit sort of the same in hockey like you can't just. You can't open a team up and make them come out of their defensive shell really without kind of bathing them out of it you almost have to give up chances on purpose. E after like. You know try to get them to to take the rush and rely on your goal tender and rely on Robin. Leonard to a couple of SEI's and and use your skill and go the other way and. I feel like that game would have sued them a little bit better in terms of like, Max? Patch. Already maybe would have been a little more comfortable and maybe would have scored. A goal in his last game Don's instead of goosing. Maybe it suits. William. Carlson a little better. Maybe they just get a couple goals and they stopped thinking about it at that point I i. You know it's hard to say what could a coach do because he did juggle lines and you know it's not like they've got you know somebody in the black aces that that's that tore up the AHL ing it's like well. Why didn't you put this guy in I mean would have been like we talked about Peyton crabs if you're looking for an offensive spark or something, and that's a big ask for nineteen year olds to make his NHL debut in a situation like that. So you know I I I don't blame I guess pizza bore in that regard I. Like you said I think he's Falling on the sword a little bit Pun intended But. You know yeah maybe you know maybe you try to Colorado did and maybe you trade chances a little bit. Maybe you rely on your goaltender Rob Reiner showed in Chicago that he can. He can be successful in in that wide open a little bit style intriguing chances maybe that was a way for them to get Dallas to kind of break out of its system a little bit. By. I. Guess You know Hindsight's twenty twenty. You know either way you know they're going to be they're gonNA be heading home in in series over right and the biggest reason that the series is over is, of course, the Golden. Knights scoring or lack thereof ultimately, Jonathan Marsh also didn't have a goal in his last eleven games. This postseason Max Fatty didn't have a goal in his last eight. Now, of course, Patty there might still be an injury at play. There remember he got to the Evanston bubble late after suffering a training camp injury and he also missed all of the Round Robin Games plus a game in the Chicago series but you him in Oh those are your top two finishers essentially invaded have a goal in this series. William Carlson has had four points in his last twelve playoff games end. There's other guys who you mentioned Riley Smith who had his first goal? In Eleven Games in game five tonight. The other guys who didn't quite produce as well. But those are kind of some of the chief culprits in terms of the top six of the power play also dried up this series. The Knights finished three, twenty two they had the special teams edge for most of this series, but it actually got back to even tonight because stars after starting Oh for eight were three of their last five including they went to for four tonight and scored the game tying and game winning goals on the power play mentioned this earlier than I ultimately finished with eight goals in five games in three of those came in their lone win. In Game Two. Big Picture Dave similar question that I asked in regards to Pete bore earlier do you feel that this was an execution problem for the knights were their top players just not getting it done when they had chances to get it done or is there something? I guess you know this a fundamental flaw for this team the was. They can't score in terms of when things get tough against a really good defense team in tough goaltender in the postseason or is it a little bit of both or is it just a small sample size? I guess what? What's your read on this scoring situation? A lot of all the above I know it's a cop out answer but like. Talking to somebody earlier today before the game and. You know I think actually was talking to our to our editor actually as well, and in thinking back to like the first year and y they sort of struggled against Washington in that series especially after game one in the way Washington kind of sat back in. In one, three, one and sort of absorbed a lot and then went with the Puck, the other way and created. So many good chances in seem to score on you know an all of them obviously. But enough of that put pressure on the nights in a different way I mean think how long they've struggled with like Minnesota in teams that will sit back. and. Play kind of a bend but don't break I guess sort of style in push everything that outside and just pack the middle you know give up zone time give up the outside of is all those sorts of things in the nights are very content to kind of take it in almost At the end of the game lean back on wall look comedy shots we had or you know look what? What this number says. This number says when you know maybe they weren't as threatening as as sort of numbers sort of a lying. In a way it goes I don't know it goes hand in hand I mean I I. I feel like I've said this before I feel like the one thing that the series showed is there screaming out for a playmaking center you know study more so than they have right now that can really unlocked defense with with a pass or just you know a guy who can set somebody up and Create something out of nothing or or get big goalie moving side of the types of shots, types of chances that you see consistently scored on in the NHL. I'm GonNa just felt like there weren't a lot. Gene it's fine and Dandy to say, get it in deep cycle, the park and. Low to high and should but you know what? My Dad those are. Those spilling low percentage chances in a just never felt like for the most part and maybe a little bit more. So tonight, but it just didn't feel. The higher percentage chances from the slot in tight deflections. One timer whatever it might be that they just weren't creating in I feel like small sample sizes not. A good answer for that I feel like it goes back a little further and it goes back to something that we've heard from fans for a long time that they seem to make a backup goaltender embezzle trophy winner. So maybe there is a little something to the players in in their finishing skills and maybe needing somebody in here. Who can you know be a consistent like thirty, five, forty goal score I don't know maybe it's something crazy and we can talk about this later. 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Yeah, it'll be interesting to, of course, see if they're able to make any sort of move there it's obviously going to be extremely difficult because they're going to be dealing with as everyone else in the Michelle is with a flat salary cap, and this'll be a topic for future podcasts at the night's have some wiggle room right now they're not going to. Have a lot once they kind of start doing their off-season Business I. Think it is interesting to point out that certainly in the regular season, these stars who just beat the gold nights than going to the Stanley Cup. Final had less firepower than the night certain add less firepower coming into this series on paper and I would say probably less. Pure finishing ability. They certainly have guys like Joe Pavelski who is just made a career off of the quote Unquote Greasy. Playoff goals I. Believe He is third in playoff goals among American born players in NHL history But you know not necessarily the guy that you look at what the beautiful snapshots the top finisher same with Jamie Ben but Jamie Ben turned on in the postseason just. executed. You can also look at the other conference fight on say the islanders aren't a team that screaming with offensive skill. Now, maybe he would say that Matt Bars L. is that kind of center that you're talking about days that can unlock a defense 'cause he's so freaking fast and certainly I think brock Nelson's been fantastic for them this postseason as well I'm GonNa even will. The, the twenty, nineteen blues who on the Stanley Cup is an example of a team that. You Know Tau, Allies construction-wise is somewhat similar to the nights in terms of their bill to play a heavier style would argue those blues were built a little bit more for the postseason. They have some finishers in terms they have Vladimir, Tarasenko who's you know probably compared to Max Patriot or maybe half step above Max Patch ready depending on how you view him. They damaged piranha who was literally Goldeneye in his probably extent comparable to Jonathan, marshalls W is very good for the team last. Year and then they have a really good to a center like William Carlson in Ryan Riley and you could certainly argue that O'Reilly is maybe a half step above William Carlson but I think you could say that it's not like the nights are that far off potentially talent wise from that blues team last year maybe they're a half step down in a lot of areas in maybe that's just kind of the margins that lead to losses sometimes when everything just get so tight in the playoffs. Yet that's fair. I mean I I think it just shows how hard it is. Win It. And why they always talk about it in why you know teams have a hard time getting past certain point you know in the in the playoff structure or Washington or they get there and they can't finish or you know I, it takes a lot of things going right you have to be healthy at the right time you have to be goaltending at the right time you have to be you have to have guys that are producing I mean all those like you mentioned the blues and and I mean I think you know maybe there's like a difference like you mentioned in terms of what the Blues Rolling out on defense last year in terms of like Bom Easter portraying Angelo. PERICO is kind of shutdown big physical guys, and then you know they were getting scoring and and Ryan Riley was a Conn smyth remember refused the winner it whoa enter Bennington was I apologize. But you know the the nights just didn't get a CONN Smyth performance from anybody in this series that that's you know like I mentioned earlier their stars just didn't step up when they needed to they needed. They needed somebody to be able to grab hold about series. And and score a big goal, and then you know get games across the finish line I mean. They somewhat followed the script that they needed to follow in each of the last two games in terms of getting the first goal and especially tonight in in game five I mean they're up to nothing in the third period basically scored early in the fifteen seconds in you've got to nothing lead that you've got a you know right out and your eight, your goaltenders playing well, you feel like the the defense playing well and whatever the stars are throwing at you offensively. Isn't the threat and you know the puck ends up on Jamie unstick in he finished and he finished at key times throughout the series you know and then you know keep you. I mean, steps up to the big moment. Agree on. Obviously is a guy who was a twenty goal score. Let him in goals during the season I mean good shot but you know like, Leonard Side You'd you'd probably like to make a save their. You know it was just a key moments. Their key guys stepped up in the nights just didn't do that and. You know maybe that's the stuff that pizza wars talking about learning the playoffs and you've gone through it in a maybe those guys now know what it takes. We'll see. Yeah. We'll definitely see that is interesting. We heard for Nate Schmidt. Much earlier this postseason about how last year the first round against the San Jose Sharks for the answer up three one and ultimately lost the series in ways that we don't need to get into right now but he mentioned that that help teach the team how hard it was to win in the postseason and that certainly seemed like lessen the team had learned through the first rounds and even in the round robin where they came out with their hair on fire and maybe This series will teach team a lesson about what it actually takes to score in the postseason. WanNa. Hit a quick. Couple other storylines before we look ahead a little bit to wrap this podcast up a I wanNA talk about Mark Stone. He blocked a joke Belsky shot last game was clearly hobbled for the rest of the contest. Any watched him on the five on three that the Knight's got in game four and you just clearly wasn't right wasn't one hundred percent He still gave it a go tonight I. Don't think anyone was necessarily shocked that Markson basically refused to bow down when his teams season was online but ultimately, tonight Dave was that the mark stone that were used to seeing. No. Maybe was just me they showed him in warm up and you know I never liked to. To read too much in the warm up bud, he looked like he was hobbling and they showed him a couple of times grimacing and laboring up the ice and you know I, it just didn't feel like got it out credit to them and I'm sure it would've taken. You know who knows what like I'm sure if he could get escape over that foot, he was gonNA play. Whatever it took and I think he grew into the game a little bit. It seemed like maybe a loosened up and he wasn't a stiff as it seemed like early in the in the game I know there was one chance rehab where he had burst and Kinda. Came and got back back hand off. That khudobin stopped but It just didn't feel like Mark Stone was was one hundred percent for you know all the third period loss, the previous game in game four and then and then tonight either and and you know it's too bad. That's a shame because you WANNA come and go down with with your best I. Guess if you're GonNa if you'RE GONNA, lose you you WANNA go down throwing your best pitch and I guess maybe in that way, you know the nights not being probably it's full strength I guess Kinda costs them. Yeah I mean a credit to stone for trying to get that out. He actually led the team in shots on goal tonight with five. He played basically regular allotment of ice time he was on the power play and the penalty kill played almost nineteen minutes but. I don't think that was him at his best just because of what he tried to do last game to the team out the second thing I want to touch on is the third period. You already kind of talked about a day of the nights went up two nothing Riley Smith scored fifteen seconds into the period of like I talked about earlier. than. Dallas. Finally, kind of started pushing. It was very interesting to me that for the most part it seemed like the Knights who obviously were the more desperate team in playing like the more desperate team. Were doing a very good job of doing what the stars do. Once they got to nothing they were locking the game for the most part they weren't allowing a lot of traffic. They weren't allowing a lot of shots, and then finally I don't know if there's something bonus set on the bench or something, but the stars remembered that Oh. Hey. If we win this game, we get to go to the Stanley Cup final. That's pretty neat, and then they started pushing and it just seemed like once stars started that push in that kind of took control over the tempo of the game they never gave back and they tied it and they kept pushing. After they tied it in just felt like once the nights lost the grip on the game, they never so much as even slightly closed their fist back around it again and obviously the two of us because we are neutral impartial observers of this team and we report on them as objectively as possible we are not allowed to bet on the Games but our colleague Jim Barnes who does a great job covering sports betting for US tweeted out that the overtime line was nights minus one forty, and that was kind of crazy to me because certainly from my is just watching that end of that third period, it seems to me like the Knights. Were definitely not the favorite heading into overtime and I'm curious whether you had the same feeling wants the puck dropped in the extra session? Yeah. I. Mean it did feel like the wind was coming out of their sales. A little bit any overtime I I mean I guess I don't know I don't want to crush them too much in terms of the third period but. You have to you have to get that across the finish line right? Like you're up to nothing you're trying to come back from three one you've done everything, right? You've done everything, right? and. All you gotTa do is what ten minutes I mean. You're you're halfway through the third period and and it costs you and that's you know I mean I guess maybe in that way, you know we talked about all these things in the knife edge that the series was was sort of balanced on in. It's like it's moments like that. It's things like that. You do what you need to do for fifty plus minutes and you know they get a good goal from Jamie Dan and then you just you can't close. And in some way, not to be too harsh but like, yeah, you don't deserve to win a series when you when you're in a situation like that, it's tough because you you give nine goals in a series and you lose I mean it's weird. It's like the the kings you know that first year it's like they gave up seven goals or whatever the nights. Sweat. I mean it's it's you know it's crazy but. Damore kind of touched on. That's what this time year is. In terms of the season, like you get to one games, one nothing games, you have to win them every stars win was a one goal win and and you know that was a difference. So did it kind of? I'll say this when I saw that puck over the glass and and you knew the stars are GonNa get an over overtime powerplay. Adopt point it was just it was like a assist you know. Like Just they they can't. They just didn't have enough gas left in the tank. I don't know why you know. Maybe that's a question for tomorrow for for them and for pizza, bar by it did sort of feel like at that point that stars were in control I I have to agree. Yeah let's talk about that penalty than to touchdown earlier it is what it is. It's a, it's the right call it. Also the really rough way for Zach white cloud to cap what was a solid rookie season? He led the nights in a handed time on ice this postseason. So he was a member one penalty killer. Basically, he was second on the team in blocked shots a we certainly had fun in the media asking him about the various times. He's kind of gotten beaten up and bruised in the playoffs but kept coming back. To keep fighting, we can't play the clips of what a pizza bore in Riley Smith said Kinda defending white cloud in his role with the team because they take some naughty words but they obviously for just five reasons not placing the blame on him kind of the bad break that ultimately led to the game winning power play. You know obviously nor should they right dave the I know I mean that's the that's not as fault like he's going back. He just he's playing the pocket just happens. You know you can't. You can't that. There's no way I? mean. He's played especially with like you said, he played to on the series he solidified his spot I mean not to. Get too much into something whatever we'll. Just we'll talk about. But like he's planned to Derek King Lane me solidify his future with the team in have like one play like that more like no way no way I mean. You know I'm sure the team won't let it happen and you know I doubt the fans and the media well, either. No definitely not. So. That obviously puts a rap on the Golden Knights Twenty nineteen twenty season took a lot longer than any of us would have expected, but there it is. Now obviously will have a ton of offseason content coming for you guys in the coming days both on this podcast and add review journal, Dot Com but I wanna quit kit some storylines that will, of course be watching out for number one obviously is the goaltender situation. So Robin Lender is unrestricted free agent as we've mentioned I believe on this podcast before there are certainly a lot of. A lot of stuff out there that suggests he's not going to be a free agent for long. In fact, he will be sticking around in Las. Vegas others a report in the fourth period on Friday. The said that Leonard, basically already has an extension in place with the Golden Knights Leonard denied that report. Now, if you're one of those people that likes to kind of read between the lines of with all this stuff and how the gold nights like. The operate you know it would have been pretty shocking if the team had announcing extension during the season. So we'll see if in the coming days here that is something that turns from rumor into reality, and then if that happens of the nights are obviously going to have to decide whether they can stomach on their books keeping both lender and mark on flurry whether those two goals would be happy together in that situation and in if not. What that ultimately means flurries future with franchise a second thing to look out for Mark Stone. It really appears likely that he will be wearing a different letter on his sweater next year, and of course, we're talking about the C- because pizza bore has made it pretty clear that he would like to have a captain next season and based on everything that he said about it seemed like stone is by far the most likely candidate and they keep just prove that again both tonight an-and game four. With, how he got it out the last two games of the season an finally, it'll just be interesting to see what else this team ends up doing his day touched on some of their Ufa's are a letter eve though that when you put Asterix by a dirk England John Maryland Tomasz no sick I think in a flat cap world it's GonNa. Be Tough for the nights to bring any of those guys. The restricted free agents are channel Stevenson cousins. Would make sense especially since they traded gave draft picks for both of those guys during the year to see both those guys comeback on contracts that arts be determined and then you touch on. What you might like to see this team do David. What you think this team is lacking in a flat cap world. You think that they're going to be able to make any big moves like that to. Bring in a guy that's GonNa be put them over the top or is this going to be a situation kind of like last off season where they're going to have to be more patient and kind of wait to till the trade deadline? To make some moves because that's what we saw this year where extra trade a lot of guys away last off season accumulated draft capital in an spent that draft capital getting a Robin Leonard and Martinez a nick cousins at the deadline. We're GONNA, see a similar script play out this off season. I mean, it's tough to stay I, think the goal is situation has to get sorted out I in what they wanted to do that, and then be able to say, okay, this is what our salary cap goes especially based on. Their playoff performance obviously changed the instance scored a great goal tonight. But neither of them really set the world on fire may cousins was what we presumed to be a healthy scratch for a handful of games. So I don't think those guys really cost a whole lot in terms. Of that I just feel like maybe philosophically, it's a big question of you know after three years after getting close one year and then you know having a you know last year obviously feeling like they could have made a run this year getting you know the conference final do they feel like they need a shake up? They feel like there needs to be something big happening a hockey trade a big one for one Do we see one of those top six guys that have been you know part of the scene for three? Years Maybe, move out as part of a package for somebody or as part of a one for one just to mix things up just to try to like you know get a different dynamic I mean if there's one thing that I, tell him criminal George mcphee have shown especially this year the lesson is they are not afraid to make a change and if they feel like they're window is closing, they're going to do what they feel like they need to do to keep that thing open and and try to win a Stanley Cup. It's an interesting thought process. You feel like you're close enough and if you re sign ladder and you basically bringing this team back, is that good enough? Can you make another run I mean I think there are playoff team I think they could. Potentially, do damage in the playoffs, but you never know and it does feel like there's just. Room to maybe get a little better by e you're GonNa have to roll the dice if your time a criminal George mcphee and and you know maybe make a risky trade and and go after some guys in and maybe give away some futures or things. To really go for it. I mean I I'm not sure exactly WHO's out there in terms of a trade I don't know what it would take I mean I. I've mentioned line earlier because he's the biggest name that's kind of been at least mentioned Tsn Trade Board and other other folks other reports of of somebody who might Be, available He would be a guy that would be an instant upgrade. To forty goal score potentially so. You know it would take a lot to do that. I don't know if the nights feel like they're close enough or you don't WanNa shake it up like that. But I gotta say. It feels like this off season more than any other off season going into it not that they're not many granted but that there's the potential for a major shake-up. This year more so than than the previous. It'll be fascinating to see what they end up doing if anything menu mentioned a name like Patrick Lining that's certainly intriguing and that's something that we can talk about as we move forward here in the off season will be provided as plenty of off season content of both on this podcast and at review journal Dot com stay tuned for all of that. Thank you to everyone who's listened this season who's listened this postseason as we started bringing you guys. Posting podcasts for the Western Conference. Final is very, very much appreciated. So thank you guys from the bottom of our hearts for upping support us as we kind of get to do what we love and not work for a living which is awesome. As reminder to everyone gold niche podcast is sponsored by the Castro. Verde. Law Group where also presented by Pepsi indeed and favorite drink a favor dot com. Please check out. All are written work at review journal Dot Com rate review, subscribe, whatever you do to podcast. Please do to this one. 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"Back here on the Sodano show on ESPN LA and damn retard of the Dan lebatardshow and highly questionable. Join joins me now here on ESPN LA. So I wanted to bring you on, Dan. Because obviously when Magic Johnson gets like go you needed to be the first guest. I feel like that we brought on this station as a matter of fact, my program director was literally saying that we should have you on every show if possible today to do kind of like a victory lap of sorts and also to make sure everyone knows that you're not racist. Like it was inferred or implied two years ago. Yeah. I don't know if it was in poor implied. Or just basically said. I don't think I don't think that. You know, you wanna be taking any kind of victory lap on being right on somebody's misery, especially since. I'm always pro somebody going to get their happiness. Even if it means leaving behind what we think of as success. I think a lot of people listening here in the audience don't realize that the job that might Jay Johnson took as president of the Los Angeles Lakers was a demotion from his job as being Magic Johnson where the job, you know, paperwork and details and that stuff like when you're a legend of that magnitude. You can't do that job half ass. And you can't do it in a way that you're distracted because you have other business interests. And and so when he was absentee or when the Laker people were calling ESPN complaining because I was saying look, he's not working that hard that part has been validated. But it's also understandable. And I also understand by the way, George I understand why people would. Jump to the conclusion this way, if you're a black person, and you hear anybody say, hey, Magic Johnson's not qualified for basketball job. I understand why any black person would receive that and say, hey, if Magic Johnson did not qualify, then who among us is now all I was saying is that he skipped the line because he's super famous, but you saw that in some of these instances his lack of training hurt him. Just in tampering finds alone. Right. His lack of training. So I think that that hurt him certainly look he was a novice at the job. He wasn't there. Absentee executive all that stuff. But I do think that the stuff he said yesterday about missing having the great life. He had which you kind of alluded to was a big part of it. Not to mention the fact that he was getting actual criticism. And Magic Johnson one of the great statesman of the NBA who everyone loves right? I mean, he's not used to that. Like, I'll give you an example, I've been tough on him. Right. And I was tough on him that summer when he signed all these. Guys around LeBron because I'm like what the hell are you doing? And I was doing a summer league game. It was the final between the placers and the Lakers and I walked past him because it was awkward, right? Like I'd been killing him on the radio and he's sitting in the front row, and he kinda grabs at me. And he's like you're just gonna walk right by me and not say Hello. And like I was like, oh, hey what's up, and he gives me a hug, and and we started talking, but that's just it. Like, I think he missed that he missed that. And the combination of all my God, everyone's killing me, and this is never really happened before while he has had a lot of protection, George because even within the media he's because of that ability because of that touchy has because he's always extraordinary at the grace and gift of being Magic Johnson. He makes people feel special and he bought himself a lot of allies that way allies who knew the same stuff that I said two years ago about you know, the Lakers were having some issues even trying to find him some. Times because he's a super super famous human being, and whatever it is that happened with that Hawaii bomb shelter thing where one day people were looking for him, and he turned up, you know, hiding in a bomb shelter in Hawaii on some dudes. You know camera on the internet, and yeah, I just I just think that when Laker executives got a little bit defensive about that kind of conversation and called ESPN complaining about that conversation as it related to Magic Johnson. I sort of understand how it is that we arrived here. So I'm not familiar with that part of it does not surprise that. That is how it went down because teams and are generally very sensitive with a lot of this stuff. So especially novice though, like, especially a team, you know, a team that gets all the power, and then has in power to people in in, you know, a former agent and Magic Johnson who aren't you know, they're not used to being criticized. So how how do you receive that? Like what's happening like Chuck? Tura sending a torpedo towards you. And and you're receiving the torpedo via Email, or are you actually getting actual phone call about this? Now, I'm not getting the phone call. I'm getting complaints. We're partners ESPN is partners with basketball. And so when things happen on the network or a cough, khou covered and people have objections to it. They they call and filed their complaints. Now in this case, it was being said by the Lakers what he's saying is not true. And what I'm telling you is Magic Johnson has so many media protectors, so many friends in the media that they knew was true to Ryan seen Adria will around ski report it now you've seen him report that you there were all these questions about it. But nobody was doing that to him at the beginning. Because again, Magic Johnson is the guy George who. No matter how critical you are of him. He hugged you. And then he gets you over to his side. Did he did it to me? He got me. Like, I, you know, it was one of those things where I was like, oh, I love you like how can I not love you, even though I'm killing you. But that's the thing George how you know, we gas bag all the time on the radio. Television. We give our opinions, and we crush people. Yeah. But they're they're when they're when they're when they become a human to us, and when they're legendary and they become mortal to us in that way. Magic Johnson has that gift. Charles Barkley has that gift, although it's a little roar around the edges. Michael, Jordan, Michael Jordan, more than anyone. I've seen has that gift like sort of just sort of put your hand on your knee because you buy your name and knows the power behind Michael Jordan, just put his hand on my name and called me by my name. And so magic knows that too. And I think you're absolutely right. Like, what the hell is Magic Johnson doing to to to Laker fans to have them. You know, be unhappy with him better to go back to where he was. Yeah. Dan Le Batard with us here. Dan Le Batard show with stugotz on ESPN radio and highly questionable each and every weekday Michael Thompsons favourite show. He literally watches it on his phone each and every day. Michael Thompson for his birthday. I the president. He wanted was Mita FaceTime, Dan's father. Poppy. And we made that happen. I made a sixty something year old man, very happy that day. It was very very exciting around here. Very strange all of it. It's very strange as it is strange. But speaking, let's add to the strangeness. So the reporting is out there now, and you talked about Pelinka, and you and I talked about this when I came on your show today, and I called him little finger from game of thrones. Which I don't believe you're familiar with the audience probably is because you don't watch game of thrones. But basically, a shadow villain of sorts where you know, he's walking into the facility knowing that Magic Johnson, isn't there? And he's like, hey, where's magic anybody's magic? I don't think Magic's here today. What a shocker so when magic is talking about like guys adding back when I heard him say backstabbing flinch. Yeah. The idea that somebody because I don't think I didn't think Magic Johnson told them he lives yesterday. No. I thought Magic Johnson was refreshingly revealing about exactly what it is that he wanted. But when Magic Johnson who doesn't have a habit of. Saying anything interesting, George. He's certainly not very critical of others, very often. Like Magic Johnson's Twitter account is the most obvious thing in the world when that guy accused somebody of backstabbing, I feel like a backstabber. Yeah. And that's kind of what's happening here. Now, it looks like Ramona Shelburne was reporting Pelinka manned up in the job like he may keep the job at. I mean, again, it's still more of the blind leading the blind. And now everyone's yelling and screaming about you can't keep this guy. Which look I would agree with there's even been rumors about your boy, Pat Riley, like should they go after Pat Riley like I don't think that that would ever happen. But you would know better than I would like that makes a lot of sense to me. Look, I don't know. I don't know what had Riley and Micky Arison are determining about what the end of Pat Riley's career and Miami is gonna be, but I do know. The Pat Reilly ended up getting Shaquille O'Neal here after he had a private meeting with the Lakers in which he was talking to them about coming and becoming their coach many years. And they had a bunch of wine over dinner. It's a family business and Pat Riley's also Laker legend he came back here, and he didn't take the coaching job. But he did bring Shaquille O'Neal and a trade. And then they got a championship. He's been talking about getting back to Malibu for fifteen years. I know how he feels about that organization and Miami's a bit stuck right now. So I don't know if if Micky Arison said the Pat Reilly, hey, you wanna go do this now? Like, I I'm not sure what would happen there. I'm not I wouldn't rule that out. It would just depend on where Mickey and Pat with it interesting. What about him? And LeBron though I feel like that relationship is still probably a little icy. Right. Maybe. But are you listening to LeBron at this point on that particular subject, you know, when are always talking about culture changes and everything else Pat Riley repaired, the relationship with Dwayne Wade, Pat Riley repaired the relationship with Chris Bosh? I don't know where LeBron and Pat Riley are on this. I know Pat. Riley had a good working relationship with that group of people around LeBron. And they realized in retrospect through even Cleveland where they wanna championship that they miss some of the stuff that Pat Riley brought in terms of culture and accountability. And all the things that the heater about that. The Lakers haven't been around about for a long time. Like, if if you're just going logically. I don't know if it can happen. But if you're just going logically, of course, the bus family would even choose the Pat Reilly of Phil Jackson over you know, Phil Jackson who has the family ties with genie bus and everything else. They would choose Pat Riley because he's done that job better than anybody has. I think you just made like a solid zero torpedo with this conversation about you know, I mean, I wouldn't rule it out like, you know, this business, Dan, I this is airing now and all of a sudden some blogger on Laker nation dot com, or or whatever is say laboratory thinks Riley could be a Laker. I'm I'm just telling you what the history is. But I'm telling you, I'm not doing any reporting here. Have not asked to anybody about this. Right. So I know I'm just telling you that. I don't think it's that absurd. No. I don't think it's that absurd either. It's yeah. Bring him in here. Standing and Gundy standing outside my getting here. Stan you already hogged enough of my getting your headphones. Okay. He's already hugged enough of my time on the laboratory experience today as he was your guest co host today. So Dan said you hogged on my time on the lebatardshow today. And now I have Dan on the line. So now, we figured you might as well just keep hogging the time. So here, here's standing Gundy. Now sitting in here he's going to join me momentarily, and he didn't get enough of lebatardshow in one day. So now he is he is sitting in the studio and headphones are coming on. And now you can say hi to Dan now. Oh, no, wait. Sorry. Hold on. Dan, don't say I'd him yet. All right now, say hi, Dan. Hello, STAN, we could but Saddam out of this conversation. We did earlier. I wanna know I wanna talk to you about this because he was just asking about the idea of Pat Riley to the Lakers. And I know when we were talking about it on the radio show today that you were saying that muck he's very loyal, and he's very loyal to Micky Arison, but I can foresee without it being implausible scenario where because they've got to figure out how Pat Riley is gonna close his career in basketball and in Miami. They're stuck in purgatory with their salary cap issues. And where they are. I don't think that Micky Arison and Pat Riley getting together and talking about. Hey, Pat, you finally wanna get them Allah. Boo. I don't think that's absurd. Well, I don't think it's absurd. And I don't put anything around with possibility. I'd be a little surprised I think they'll try to get somebody who's not as close to the end of their career somebody who can, you know, grow with the organization. You know, wherever they're going. But I certainly don't put it out of the realm of possibility. They may say, you know, what pats got experience with LeBron James. He's our best player. We have a short window in which to win. Let's bring Pat in here for that three year window see what we can get done. And then we'll see where we are at the end of it. So nothing's out of the realm of possibility just leave spo- in Miami, though. At least there at least then spoke can be like Popovich all of a sudden. Yeah, I would think that SPO would stay there. I mean Eric's been there is entire career never been anywhere else. I'd be surprised if if Eric left, and I'd be surprised if they would let him leave they go, Dan. What do you think SPO SPO package deal with spo- or no, I I want to talk more to stand in Gundy at Johns, Donald. Oh, Donald of my own show. I'm out go. The the the Magic Johnson the idea that he would be beloved Laker and the criticism for the first time in his life as I saw Derek jeeter booed on the screen last night during the Dwayne Wade testimonials Derrick jeeter, as you know, legend with of impeccable resume, and he gets out there on and he's booed on the jumbos Tron. Magic johnson. Went what experiences he have being ripped and not being beloved by Los Angeles. Yeah. I I mean, look, I think that happens to some of these guys who go into either coaching or management. I mean specially guys of that magnitude like jeeter and magic. I mean, you're right. They've been beloved always celebrated even when things don't go. Well, they're never the ones who catch the blame. When you're in charge of things, you're going to get the blame. No matter. What happens, and it's a foreign concept for guys like that. And it's difficult. I think and I think magic looks at that on top of everything else is business. Mrs and he's really been vegan guy in L A sports, part of the dodgers part of the new MLS team part of a -tracting the Rams in the chargers here, you know. I mean, he's been this beloved figure and now all of a sudden it's we didn't make the playoffs and that bottom line thinking, I think took away from some of the joy for him. Also. Relief for you in in finally being done in Detroit wasn't they're just not not relief. Obviously you wanted to keep working in Detroit in that job. But the pressures of that job made you miserable. You understood what he was saying yesterday when he looked palpably happier than he was an hour earlier. Well, I think almost everybody is happy when they're out of out of that. There's no question about it. But now, I wasn't relieved. I was extremely disappointed. Magic the difference. Was he made his own decision? You know? My only decision was, you know, my going to clean out my office, the safter noon or tomorrow after Tylenol second. But what I'm what I'm talking about is not no, of course, I didn't mean to misrepresent you what I'm talking about. Is there is something inherently miserable about this portion of the arena that you you. Specifically are a happier human being when you're not coaching. Doesn't mean you're. Has fulfilled. But you're happier. And Magic Johnson just says at this point man, come on. I'm gonna being Magic Johnson is pretty damn great. I'm gonna go back to that. Oh, yeah. There's no question. You know? I don't have quite as much to go back to as Magic Johnson. He's got businesses. He's got part ownership of the dodgers. He's got part ownership of an analyst MLS team. He's this global ambassador of the game. He has a lot to go back to I get to go to your radio show G Wednesday on I mean. Sorry. Keep going to totally different levels of things to go back to okay. Overall net positive vote for the Lakers when you consider you get the novice out of there who was you know, unhappy and making a lot of mistakes, and he got your LeBron James. And so you build around that with the next with the next regime as noisy as it is embarrassing as it may feel today. I don't think it's a terrible thing for the organization stand. No, not necessarily like you said he did his job. He got LeBron air. And if they decide to go forward with a lot of those young players, let's face it. Magic became a sticking point with those guys based on the Anthony Davis stuff. Now, somebody else can come in there and said, hey, I believe in you guys, you know, we can build this thing and we can win with the group. We've got here. Even though they'll be some changes to it and really sell that. I think that would have been a hard sell for magic to walk back in if they had to play with some of those young guys in convinced them that at the top the organisation really believed in them because it was clear that they didn't. What do you think needs to happen for that city to embrace LeBron? Well, he's got a win. I mean, nothing other than that. Look. I mean, there's nothing else here. I mean, all the great stars that have come through here have one. And I think people understand he's coming in at a tougher time. But unless he can at least get them to the finals or even maybe the Western Conference finals, but he's gotta make them into a true contender for the championship before anybody here is going to give him respect because what Laker star has not done that to my radio show. I don't even know. What's happened? Yeah. No. It's not your radio show. Dan took over putting me out like you did earlier. I don't mean to do that. I mean, it's like, Dan's Acton. Is those host these route? Get out of here. It's my show. You later. Stands gonna stick around me. I do have a question for you about. The Palinka situation. Right. So I mean, Dan, and I would just talking about it. Like, I don't think Magic Johnson said anything there yesterday that wasn't true. Now, the thing that stuck out immediately. Immediately to me was when he said backstabbing, and then give it very tepid response to Pelinka and his role, and if it should continue, then the reporting starts to happen because you know, we're piranha, and then we dig and we find out that, you know, maybe rob wasn't always aligned with Magic Johnson that there was even report today that said that rob would go out in the in the facility Bill is magic today. He's not oh shocker. Magic's not here today. So like he's a novice as well. How do you continue with that? Don't you need to hire someone with actual experience? Now. Well, I think it would be helpful. But here's the thing. No matter who you hire. And this didn't even happen with magic. Whoever you hire the only way this ever works in pro sports is that person you put in charge needs to be able to hire of all the people under him. I mean, it has to be that person's people. So that there is a trust in an alignment, and look I could give you myriad examples where people have tried it the other way where the coach was hired before the GM or whatever it never works. And in this case, at least from everything I've read you may know better being out here, but magic didn't really have a relationship or even a mutual respect with rob Pelinka. It was magic got the job. Rob Pelinka was suggested to him by Jeanie Buss via Koby, right and the whole that's not going to work, rob Pelinka, either put him in charge or let the person coming in the side, if he stays, but you can't what they can't do in my opinion too. Have it work is to go out and get somebody with the stipulation that rob Pelinka stays or Luke Walton stays even. And I've been a big supporter of Luke. I think he's a really good coach. I just don't think when you bring somebody in you can tell them who they have to hire that situation has not worked. Well, look, I'm with you on that. And I don't want to get to Luke in a second. But I want to ask you this because it was reported in the lead, and as a former coach someone who ran an organization, I'm just curious to get your thoughts on this particular incident that they reported that they felt like Pelinka might have been micromanaging too much from his position that he was apparently attending these coaches meetings and was suggesting things like that they needed to deliver the scouting reports differently. Even two players and the coaches were like, we're okay with him being in there. But it did feel weird that he was suggesting that. First of all, my guess is as an agent he didn't see very many scouting reports. And probably the last one that he saw was when he was playing Michigan with John Howard, and Chris Webber and Jalen rose in those guys. But as a coach if your general manager when you were just the coach would have come in to your meeting and suggested something like that. How would you have reacted? Well, I would say this. It would all depend on two things that relationship I have with the general manager and the general manager's experience. So I'm in Detroit with Jeff Bauer who had been both the head coach and an assistant coach in the NBA. I would have had no problem with and we had a great relationship. I hired him. So I would have had no problem. I had great respect I valued his his feedback. But if you have somebody coming in that doesn't have that kind of experience, which you know, a guy like Pelinka would not. Now, I don't think I would value at very much, you know, it would depend on how it was delivered in what vein. I mean. Some people can give you the sort of and really be genuine about it. Hey, have you ever thought of this? And some people can give you more of the idea if not in those words of the way, you're doing it is wrong. You should do it this way. And if that's going to be the statement, then it's gotta come from somebody who's got a demonstrated record of success coaching in this league. So I think it depends. I think the input of the front office into coaching and the coaching into the front office is good. I think where the lines have to be clearly delineated is after we've had the discussions who has the final say, you know, in coaching decisions to me. It should be the coach we've talked through this stuff. I've heard suggestions we're going to go this way. And in personnel decisions. We've talked through thanks for giving me some input. But I understand it. At the end of the day. You in the front office are gonna make the personnel decisions. And I'm going to respect them. That's the to me is the way it works. Well with a trust between people that were all just working to do. What's best for the team that works standing Gundy with this year? Lastly on Luke, I feel like look he's been unfortunately labeled the fall guy this entire season. I actually think this could be cool that he could potentially get this eleventh-hour reprieve perhaps and maybe the coach next season. Because I think that this thing was a disaster from the gecko and very little of it had to do with him. How would you kind of evaluate what he did this year? And just how do you feel for him? If he is able to continue moving forward. I think that. The two worst situations for coaches in the league this year were here in L A with Luke and in New Orleans with Alvin gentry two guys that were put into impossible situations. Look, I I don't know what it is you want in a coach to me Luke brings a great positive energy every single day, even when things were bad. You don't notice when at least from the outside. You don't notice any change in demeanor? You don't notice any frustration? He's positives upbeat. He's got a good energy. I think from an Xs and os standpoint, he's really good, right? From everything I've read his real strength is, you know, building relationships with players. So I don't know if Luke Walton isn't what you want yet. Tell me what you're looking for. Sometimes I think organizations it's just a matter of pointing a finger at somebody appeasing your fans, you know, desire for some change. And there's really no. No rhyme, nor reason there's no thought of this is what we're not getting from coach we need to go out and find it. I don't think that's the case. Most times, it's just boy our fans are pissed right? Let's get rid of Luke. And then we'll go find somebody else and not with any design on really changing what goes on. I think they've got a good basketball coach here a guy who relishes being here. One here. Played here all your standards, the tradition, though, the whole thing a great respect for the organization. I think they've got a lot to lose by not having Luke here. But with that said like I said before the problem to me was magic didn't hire. Luke those situations. Just don't end up working in this league. I mean, Dwayne Casey was coachie year ago a year ago coach of the year messiah Jiri now they lasted for a few years together. But messiah Jerry did not hire Dwayne Casey. So after fifty nine wins and go into the conference finals, he's gone. Steve Clifford was a great coach in Charlotte. Mitch cup. Check even though he worked with him. Here did not hire. Steve clifford. He's gone. I mean, we've seen this time after time after time in the league it just always works that way. So the person coming in whoever it is Jeanie Buss hires has got to be given the freedom to make that decision on their own. And in my opinion, Jeanie Buss shouldn't even try. I to influence that decision. And I think that's best for Luke to whether he stays or goes if he's gonna be here. He needs to have somebody who believes in him and totally supports him. It didn't. I'm not saying whether it was the case or not because I'm not on the inside. But it sure didn't feel like from the outside stand. Thanks for hanging out, man. Appreciate it. And thanks for putting up a little bit. Absolutely. Haven't talked to him twice in one day. I did three hours within this morning. I mean, come on. I mean, I need some load management. Yep. I know you love load man, and I need to unload managed at this point. So go get managed to do all that STAN Van Gundy that was a long segment will react to all that stick around. So Donald show back in a couple of minutes here on ESPN LA sedan is show here on ESPN LA. Matt Barnes hanging out with us thankful to have you here, sir. Always a pleasure. Appreciate you. These random questions from. Yes, sir. Show stand in and lebatardshow said don't dismiss Pat Riley that you know, that they could see a situation where the heat owner Micky Arison says to Pat, we know you've always got the house in Malibu, and you've always wanted to be there. If that's where you wanna finish where it started. Then go have at it, those standards say don't expect they're exposed to be a package deal in this scenario because Eric would then I guess what he's saying Eric would become Popovich, basically visits are John Howard converse. It does revisit our John Howard conversation. I think John would be a good fit as a coach anywhere. Really? And then knowing too that, you know, from reports that that Riley stood up to LeBron, you know, when LeBron didn't had a problem with bolster and all that kind of stuff, you know, Riley stood up and said, you know, this is our guy, and I think that's what LeBron needs. I mean, he's, you know, he needs someone still kind of be like, okay? Well, you're you who you are. But you're not running everything you know, what I mean? And Piat rod is definitely one of those guys. Yeah. It would be interesting. I wonder though, if he sees the way the Phil. Jackson experiment, happened in New York and power says. Good thing. I'm good. He is a made man made man going into that situation. They paid twelve million dollars. Not as not as an executive wildcard though. Yeah. To me, you just never really know. I think you know, like, you said Passmore, mafia, you know. And I think the fact that you know, if you caught any wants to come back and do an amazing life. It's an amazing challenge at the end of a career for competitor. And it's an amazing sendoff if he is able to create a great way to send what great way to drop the mic, if you're Pat Riley come back here routine with LeBron figure it out right off into the sunset. Right. And you you have initial respect like, and then Jeanie gets to be like, okay ham, and it's not a novice, right? Like, here's a guy who's been the architect of numerous. He said, you need someone you can trust Pat Riley is obviously, you know, someone with that pedigree. I it would be interesting and look Dan knows Pat as well as anybody in the media like there are super tight. So the reason why Pat worked in that role and magic didn't and rob have figured there their front office Steph out because it sounds like Pat, and George knows as well to map. I'm sure and you're crossing just told it like it is right. Yeah. He'd sit player down like Dion waiters. It'd be like your fat lose away. And I don't think that anyone things Magic Johnson has that in his toolbox. He's not having those candidates talking about the last couple. Why you think what you know, you can even tell what the way magic on out of respect sugar sugar coated his exit. You know what I mean? Like, obviously, he doesn't mess. Rob in obviously, there's some things that went down. But he's still kind of sugar coated. I'm like, I said, that's how some people are. But I think more than anything people may not like it. But they respect someone that's going to keep it real. And give them the whole honest truth. Yeah. For sure that's all you want, right. Just be treated like an adult. I don't think that that's that hard again. You're not going to have to like it. But it's funny though to think that like NBA players are out there being like. Yeah. Treat me like an adult. Don't call me. Don't like placate too because it plays against what the fan generally thinks stereotype. But what you're saying is interesting because you're saying, no, actually don't tell me the real. I think more than anything people forget, I mean outside of us being paid athletes. Like, we're men I inform. Sure, you know, what I mean? And that's how dock and I got into a situation where you know, it was it got ugly quick. And I got traded twelve o one thing. That's started. But my whole thing was your you. You coach me I respect that you can coach me. But don't disrespect me as a man like that. I'm not I'm a father. I'm gonna look my kid mind when I'm letting another man just disrespect me. So I think more than anything as you just need that respecting you need, you need to be honest honesty's the key man, especially in situations like these. Yeah, it would be fascinating headline July whenever that happens. Well, I told lebatardshow I'm like, yo, you know, you realize you you. You of all people saying that you don't you wouldn't rule it out. Like, that's that's a that's a news. I basically at this point stories of leg, actually when he called the the magic situation to begin with, right? He saw that. So I mean, it'd be inched I wanna see Laker fan. You know what I mean? Even though I played a long career, and, you know, Lakers, the clippers in the warriors hold a special place in my heart. But I just think basketball, the MBA is better the world is better when the Lakers relevant and to be honest. I'm going to be real here. I think that like. Pat's time in Miami. Like he made basketball. They're like there's no question. It wouldn't have mattered. If it wasn't for him. He drafted Dwayne Wade. They won all those things. You know? Pat was the architect all that stuff. But I don't think there's a challenge there for him anymore. Like, he's he's one there. He put it on the map here. It would be a great punctuation to his career and with all due respect. I mean, I don't really see anything coming out of Miami. And the no five you're kind of Scott, right? That's his doing. But he gets he gets over it. They got rings to show for it though. Right. You know what? I mean. So like you said it'd be a great time to do over challenge. What's the coordination for this out? We got Kimbe to come down. Like, it's not gonna let me tell you something. I'll tell you this. And you know, maybe Matt you've heard differently. But I heard the story that when Kevin Durant was a free agent two thousand sixteen he has gone on the record. I remember hearing on the Bill Simmons podcast and said this that because you asked them like who's who's the most impressive coach in the NBA right now this was a couple years ago. And he's like Erik Spoelstra. He's because that's when the he had this like thirty and eleven run after starting. Terribly the year after D Wade left, and they almost made the playoffs know they were just insane and spoken is like one coach here that year. And and I had heard when they had their their meeting that he was blown away by Miami. Just felt like I just can't win. They're you know, what I mean. But he loved spoil straight loved Riley. So I look you put Pat Riley in a room much like Magic Johnson. He closes nine times out of ten it feels like, you know. Yeah. But I don't think any of those real big fish are going down there anytime soon to Matt's point. I know, but that's what I'm saying. If you put him here lay with cap space instantly changes, you know, like I said, you just need some credibility in that front office. Rob alone is not going to go a big free agent to come. And then like, I said, yeah. I mean, that's really my point you need some credibility over there for guys to even consider from here on out. Yeah. For sure speaking of just coaching stuff, and you talked about it earlier in the show. But I I would love for people to hear just kind of your thoughts on this whole UCLA thing. Again, if they didn't hear, you know, three o'clock hour whenever we. Doing it. Because I like you was very much on the Earl Watson bandwagon. Like, I was championing that I know his wife I worked with her in Miami. And so I root for for her and him, even though I don't really know him like that the kind of power thing like, I could have understood absolutely. You know, like we talked about basketball, that's like someone like Pat Riley dropping out of the sky for right? But if you didn't get kinda Perry, and you're you couldn't you wouldn't pay the by our Jamie Dixon at that point. It's like go within the family go with someone young someone who can grow with the program because the program, let's face. It has hit hard times someone that will invest their life into it. Right. I mean, and I think that's some Earl would it did in his connection with the alumni and being able to bring us back around. And and getting us back dialed in to really help the program. It's crazy. The sounds like UCLA has never utilized unless you're giving them a bunch of money. You don't really exist? Right. No Russell Westbrook in key. Kevin love gave them a lot of money. So you see their name. Everywhere. And you know, they're highly regarded, but to me like I worked hard for my money. I'm not just going to give my money to somewhere. I don't feel welcome. You know what I mean? So that is not the case, you don't feel welcome. Just don't there's a huge. I if it's if they're not talking about you don't any then you don't donate, and you hear people talking y saw him driving this car. And he does he's earned that you know, what I mean, my whole problem. I think it was very embarrassing process for UCLA because you you know, I similar to Lakers. You just you know, you showed the world your hand instead of going under the scenes and let let's figure out who is coaching and B instead of announcing five or six coaches and not getting any of them or Watson thing is that the come down to having a college degree or something. There's something over the education or somebody tweeted that to me, I don't know. I'm not sure I know he was he system. I know he was working on. No he'll have his degree in June. By mean, there's ways they could've spun that in but even June, right? You'll be ready for the season. Right. You know what I mean? But to me, he got an interview from all aspects, he told me did really. Well, he said, Bob he said he blew Bob. That he, you know, great interview he was very prepared. And people wanna talk about no experience or his tracker with Phoenix. But you know, when you're first of all Robert servers, one of the worst own isn't sports, no doubt, first and foremost. So when your team is tanking your job is to develop players, you know, I mean in Earl has done a great job of developing UC, Devon Booker speak in highly of or Watson all the time. You know? So to me why not go grassroots. Why not you know, bring someone who's been in the family? And that's another thing that bothers alumnis. They're always going outside to get everything. Like, nothing is really UCLA. Like, you look at Duke, and you see a bunch of former players than on that bench and a four. I'm sure former Duke player will take overhead right? You see Carolina bunch of former player two sitting on the bench USC. I mean, they they keep everything with that. Now Massimo's different football. They keep everything in house. And that's the one thing. I it's unfortunate. You know, as someone who is a diehard Bruin ain't going to support the program. You know, no matter I'm I'm happy. They found a coach, you know, I'm excited to get a chance to meet him. I miss the the introduction today. But you know, more. Than anything. I just wanna see UCLA do. Well, you know, I it's crazy to to know the UCLA is just not I is almost disrespected, but they've earned that they haven't really done anything in a long time. It was hard to see it is funny though, like USC we like much like the Lakers. They stay within the family too much. You know, occasionally, they need to branch out UCLA. They do the complete opposite. It's crazy. But anyway, coming up next. Glad you got some say, yes, they've been out of the full for a minute. But college basketball, you can turn it around quickly. Yeah. You can. Yeah. And you got so much talent here. You've got to stop letting kids get out of California. Right. You know what I mean? So hopefully, this coach will do it like some, you know, my my guys met him today. And they're they're really excited about us. I'm excited to meet him. And hopefully help him get this young. Who young to sign letters of the early said they want to go to UCLA McCabe a close eye on. By that time, you know Earl be established and have a track record and satisfy all these twenty and twenty six commits to means they'll be playing for Earl I'm sure mckernan was like, hey, where's everybody? 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We came in the league together work did workouts together coming in. So I'm just happy for him. You know, they unofficial mayor of Miami. I think he's not really, obviously, it's for tour would just cause. But let's not forget, you know, he got a hell of a run man sixteen years with the heat. Well, and you d was the guy has lem was the guy that, you know, people may not remember, but in all those playoff run when Dwayne was taken those hard hits the guy who came back and got his back was that guy Tyler hands borough. Will remember the hands that were his face David west like he went up on all those? I mean, the David Wests you Don has has lem battle when they were playing the patients will LeBrun in the skies. Were there? I legitimately was afraid because I'm like, oh my God. Those are two of the toughest guys guys. Yeah dogs. Yeah. The entire state of Florida tattooed on his back like one of my favorite NBA tattoos. I mean, man, you got a lot of income. Stuff pop out here. I didn't know you had that tattoo that you has impressive. So they just did the poll of the guy you would least want to fight in the NBA and James Johnson was the winner because James Johnson nickel. Black Bowden crunch eighth degree black belt, and he's actually fought. Like, I think eighteen fights. Yeah. Eighteen oh. And his dad was like a bad ass like karate too. So he won over Malone overwhelmingly he was the guy that that that one number two is Stephen Adams. I think that's a size thing. He's super strong like aquaman strong for me. Right. Play and get like, he's a rock. Yeah. Get that. So who was the guy in your erica's? I said when John Ireland brought this up to me earlier. I was like, oh, the any era like if I had to pick guys that I saw play Oakley, Mason, Mason and Zibo Zeba. Ziba the Hudson within the guy was going to say. Yeah. Knows egos my guy, but we got into it or not. I mean, I gave a pretty hard foul in the play offs. And I just think it was a mutual respect. But Zebo was someone who wasn't really about the talking. You know, if we're going to do what we're gonna do it, you know? So he was definitely someone you probably didn't want to run into phrasing company. Excluded. In that conversation. He was he's on my my tough guy starting five for sure, you know, guy. Reggie Evans comes some was. It was almost like a Hockey Hall. The same kind of role. First NBA worker was with the Phoenix Suns. And it was a me Reggie evidence. Sam clancy. So we're doing like this war rebound real. And luckily, I just out quick these guys in got out of the war drill. So I finished and I was out. So these two guys were going added in Sam Clancy of your memory, the start as C very talented. But when for rebound Reggie knocked them off balance and Sam landed with his leg behind him in his kneecap shot up until his thigh. Like, this is my very first workout as you know, trying to become a professional and right, unfortunately, pretty much ended SAM's career because we used to have battles with him and SE very talented a player. But I remember Reggie Evans was the one that kinda it wasn't even purpose, obviously when the war rebound drill and knocked him down in the shriek are heard from him. I'll never forget like guys at the workouts were crying, and it was in a tough, man. But unfortunately, he missed out on a long career because of a crazy injury for our all of our first workouts. Wow, that's pretty wild. Man. I said the best thing to happen to map bars is Magic Johnson. Making this now because we would four hours. Workouts. I feel like that's always the fun played. Yeah. I feel I should knowing player on your like Magic Johnson robbed us of this light much. Like he arrived in Dirk yesterday. Rob air stories nuts on the flight. It wasn't so much nuts. It was hey, guys far too. Because you know, where that airplane for what the clippers man, we have some gase people. So the flight attendants would always bring like perfume or air. I know we had a fun time. I mean. People caffeine the crazy. Fun heard of like, they would like take pride in like crying on Butler's delta trying to trying to blow the you know, the front area, we're playing cards at of. So that's kind of the, you know, the one thing you miss this kind of hanging around like to me, the camaraderie, a play as long as I play with a blessing by beano to hang out with guys off the court, and in the kind of stuff we did off court, man. That's the kind of stuff you missed once you're done. Yeah. No doubt about it. Man. That's everybody says. Yeah, that's that's that's the stuff that you know, you could tell when you when guys get back together and see each other just the camaraderie is still there. Farts are there to for sure the conversation with Jordan on the Red Eye? 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4/2/21 - Hour 1 - Yanks Dip Below .500, Mets Get Postponed, Matty Marts Drops The Gloves, An Update And A Social Media Break

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4/2/21 - Hour 1 - Yanks Dip Below .500, Mets Get Postponed, Matty Marts Drops The Gloves, An Update And A Social Media Break

"Good morning boomer. Happy friday feel good friday. We're not gonna get held back. Our you were the teams that actually wanna in the tri state area. Obviously the rangers the islanders in the nets all one. So i'm what can i tell you. And thank god. It's not gary sanchez fault. Yeah i was happy to see gary Start the game the way that he did and and obviously came through. And i thought garrett cole was okay it was great but he was okay. was the greatest day to be playing baseball. I know that. I can imagine it's probably pretty uncomfortable for the players. But then the ninth inning was just brutal. The seventh inning in the ninth inning were brutal and you know. It's it's just one game early as they say gio so i'm not going to make much of a big deal out of it But stanton and judge had opportunities and both floundered and both came up small and it's a game one of one sixty two. And i just i don't know so that you can go crazy about it. I hate the fact that they started tenth inning with a guy and second base. Just hate it. I hate the whole thing about it but it did do what it's supposed to do ended the game early that's it. That's that's the object of it and to keep the pitchers healthy and not have to go through fourteen to fifteen extended extra game. But i just i hate that role this i just can't stand it and david komo's talking about yesterday. Goes for whatever reason they kept this role win but they didn't bring in the d. h. And i know that's as mike okay pointed out. I'll give him credit as well. You know that's still a bargaining chip between the owners and the players and that's one of the reasons why we don't have a nationally but the expanded playoffs right right so th which everybody seemed to really like last year your body but i just i don't know i just i hate that rule it cheapens everything and i just. I understand why they did it. I just don't like it. And unfortunately the yankees were a victim of. Yeah they were. And i think most people who have grown up watching baseball and watch it for many years don't like it. It feels unnatural. Doesn't feel like the game is supposed to be played that way but major league baseball wanted to avoid these. You know eighteen games but if you look at some of the history of the last couple of years that's pretty rare games. Go that long. But i mean this is the way it's going to be now so everybody can scream and yell at the beginning of the season. I can't believe they brought this back but this is the way it's going to be in. I think if you're a yankee fan instead of this morning screaming and yelling about that rule out screaming and yelling about you team couldn't get a big game and that's what led you into that game in that situation. I mean especially in the ninth inning when you got your automatic greatest hair on the team. Dj lemay you up with a runner on third and less than two outs. And he rose the ball over and of course top and gets thrown out of the at home. Hey they had a tough go. It's offense going again like i say. I'm not like a yankee fan on because the guy in the afternoon is but i'm not going to sit here and scream and yell about the rule. I'm just bringing up the rule telling you. I personally don't like the tenth inning rule. I just don't like it feels very. I dunno feels like literally to me. You know and and i know it's all about speeding up the game and getting the game over but that that part of me that traditional part of me. I'm not willing to give up yet. I'm just not willing to give up all you have to. What's your other choice. I know and again i'm not. I'm not screaming. Because i mean yankee fan. The yankees lost. I'm just saying that they were victim of it yesterday. Yeah they were but this is the way that it's going to be. I don't know if it's something that you know. The players association or feigned screamed about so much that they have to revisit in the future. But i mean this this is not so deal with it. Now you everybody's going to deal with it. I mean i would be coming out of this game way. More upset about a bunch of things with the yankees yesterday. That may or may not mean anything. I know everybody will use aaron judge. Wanna say giancarlo stanton flavor torres. Playing shortstop i tho. Those things are the things that that would concern me more than anything else. But you know. Of course i mean especially with a team like the yankees that has sort of had the same type of issues that have failed them or at least kept them from winning a championship. The last couple of years you know you don't wanna see that stuff also garrett cole even though there wasn't a ton of run support and this is a guy that you're paying a lot of money not to hang that breaking ball to oscar hernandez and tie the game and then of course exit before completing six innings. That's not what you want on opening day from that guy in that ace when the rest of your rotation is a big question mark count pitch all the old pitch counts. Yeah the old pitch count anyway. You mentioned stanton and judge. So i read this joel sherman. This morning. i knew the number was low. I didn't realize it was this low. So two hundred. Twenty two games is the amount of games that aaron judge and giancarlo stanton have both been on the yankees. Okay how many of those two hundred twenty two do you believe. They have been in the same lineup. Thirty two games thirty th ray did you see that as not said good job. Thirty three out of two hundred and twenty two and your answer was actually right going into yesterday because yesterday was the thirty third game. So i mean that that's not a mind. This is like worse than the brooklyn nets and their big thirty three and a two hundred and twenty two of those same. Well it turns out that they were in the same lineup yesterday and they don't terrible yeah. They were both writers look. I know it was windy yesterday. I'm not so sure that on a normal day that aaron judge says make the play in right field. Yeah i know that ball was twisting. He turned the wrong way. Had a flip around the other way shadows but that ball is headed york ac- normally he makes that play. You just didn't have a great day us today. well no. He didn't five strikeouts between them. They will one for ten between them jay. Bruce swung the ball ad out of the strike zone and for you know strike three when he should have been on first. Base should have been a walk. You know he wanted to be hero. That's why we always talk about you. Know when you're up in nyc batter's box. It is about trying to make the picture pitcher work but it's also don't try to be hero. I think hero ball hero ball. But i also think that there was. I think david komo's talking about it yesterday. Something about trying to stay within yourself and staying with inger self is not trying to be the hero and it's the old adage. Oh take what they give you and if they don't give you anything then you don't take it unless it turns into a walk. Sure which. I just thought i saw a jay. Bruce did the game yesterday. That was like met esque. That's when he was with the mets. I don't know how many times did that. Yeah for sure and by the way taking a walk. It's another thing. A little pat on the back for the game that gary sanchez had bottom of ninety work to walk. Yeah he could alleviating off the at the walker and then talk goes around and steal. Second sale. Second base here and third. Yeah great job by talking. And that's exactly why you want to have a pinch runner in their couldn't win the game so it was just. It was unfortunate because it was the first time in five hundred. Our how many guys was a five thirty one or five hundred and thirty one days and it's funny because i told the story so that was the last baseball game i attended. Was that game five of the al cs in two thousand nine hundred not remembering. That was the last game that fans were in the building was actually there. That came five hundred thirty one days ago. And you know the booze were back off courses which it should be. Yeah it'd be judge said that's a part of it man these these fans they want winners and if you're not giving a winner they're going to blow you. Who was the fan that tried to rip the ball out of his hand out there late in the game. Yes i know just ridiculous. Give it to them. No good for him. Yeah i mean to ask for it nicely Be a little bit more polite and then of course find out that this national situation. I thought that they were going to isolate and play through it. We'd seen that some other sports and obviously grew from there that there was a couple of players in addition to the one that we knew about yesterday and the contact tracing. And then the gm out there with the nationals. Mike rizzo says that basically. The entire team is quarantine. They're going to try to play on saturday. But one of the things that was driving me nuts yesterday with the reaction of this whether it was twitter or collins our written was you know this is a stark reminder that covid nineteen is still around who needs a reminder honestly do you really need a reminder. Every day i walk in here. We're still the only people here. I got put on a mask wherever i go. I've gone through this whole situation with getting vaccines role trying to vaccines. It's on the news. Every day it's in the paper every who needs a reminder that it's still out there like i understand we all understand that we're living in florida and texas where maybe they need a reminder occasionally i dunno up here we're reminded of it in our everyday lives whether it's capacity in restaurants are boarded up stores as i'm trying to leave new york city i don't need a reminder that cove nineteen is around. I know that it is so unfortunately this happened to the mets. They're going to have to deal with it. It's probably not going to be the only time all year that something like this happens to them and other teams and hopefully they can play saturday. Well you know the the problem you have. And i hate to be the bearer of bad news but there are other strangers spiking all over the place all over the world. Not just here on. -tario is getting ready to close down again osaka in japan. They're getting ready to host the summer olympics This year and i think they shut down two provinces over there at the same things. That's that's happening in europe. France made an announcement yesterday. They're starting to lock down again. There's there's this reoccurring by variant of this of covid nineteen that is starting to pop up again and starting to hit hard again and that's why it is a stark reminder and it should be a reminder for everybody to still remain vigilant man just you gotta get vaccines you can get them and you you gotta wash your hands. You gotta try to be socially distance you to be smart. I don't want things to be shut. That i want things to be open because i do believe that especially when it comes to small businesses they can handle things and we think is a consumer at least here up anywhere i go up here i see people doing the right thing for the most part for the most part i see. I don't see any arguments. I don't see any problems. If i if i go into a restaurant if i go into a store no issues none but there could be issues in other states. Yes i do know that but there are other strains now that are starting to pop up again and it's starting to be alarming again. That's and that's the reality of it. And that's why i think i i agree with you. I don't i personally. Don't need a stark reminder but unfortunately attention but unfortunately that's what this is going to be used for and the more public it is The better it is to remind those who have let their guard down especially with passover. Good friday today easter coming on sunday. It's a whole nother set of circumstances that the medical community and the political community tend to be worried about because they don't know whether or not they'll be another spike starting next week. Yeah and you did have the door. Press conference prior to when the game was supposed to be played. That was still on. That still happened. He said a bunch of stuff. That's gonna fire you up. You know who what type of player going to be thirty eight years old and he said a bad emmer effort as we said which i thought was pretty cool so at least you had that so i know it was a big bummer to mets fans. That they didn't have their opening day. And now you don't have today as well and you're just still hoping that you play on saturday but you get through it. They'll start playing. You got a long season. It's easier to make these games up because it's a long season and this is also a division team in the national that you play a million times anyway so they will make it up so it wasn't like the end of the world yesterday. Well they do the court. The question i have. So you're basically losing one game right now. That's not a big deal right. So there's no reason to have a double header right out of the game. They weren't playing today anyway. That's what i'm saying. So there's no if they play tomorrow. I don't know why last year i think they would been shut down for what twelve days or something or ten days. Probably something like that. Yeah so now. All of a sudden we have a little bit more information. They could be a little bit more careful and maybe they'll be able to pull game off on saturday but then what happened. I would imagine sunday to and then after that. I don't know how you handle is gonna make at some point so whether the next time the mets are in washington or the time after that the left to play a doubleheader at that point i mean that's what i think that it is i wouldn't to me having a double header in the first series of the year doesn't seem right i bet you the teams don't want that either. I just think of it from a baseball standpoint. it's something like that's gotta piss off. Jacob degrom even those nothing to do about it you gear up and yuki are up gear up and you're thinking opening day. This is the day. I got this amount of rest. My side bullpen session is here. Know someone as focused and as great as is is and then he gets banging gets that news in the afternoon. Yeah he's like all right now. I got a pivot. And i gotta figure this thing out on me. And so it's a small thing in the world of calvin i get it but still you know he can't be happy to you. Did you see the game between the royals and the rangers tina ten. Yeah fourteen to ten. It was five five after the first inning. We'll get all that big of offense had some offense last night. And i keep telling my son in law you know whatever you do. Don't try to get involved with charles if you don't want if you don't have to one of the toll guys in history no reason to go fight that guy. 'cause it's like fighting lurch sure you know so but he decided to drop lobs and do his thing again. It's gotta go actually did okay. I thought i would give it a. I would give it a fifty fifty deal. I and i give matt maybe a little bit of an advantage. Because he's the shorter guy and he's got to fight this guy. Classic little grab and go on was the couple of punches thrown but it was mostly granted. Ira stand up for one second. I'm not gonna punch you. Don't worry about it or anything else. Just stand up for one moment to stand up yet. Because i mean i trust you but i don't really trust you. Your microphone is not working. It's just like like so for fighting like new grammy. Just don't touch each other. yeah yeah just graduate. Thirty hard core trying to punch you with my knuckles. yeah right. so what is empathy. He s do it like on a forty five degree angle upward edge. Mike i'm thinking like what is his daughter when he gets himself into things. Like this really wanted to do that are you. I don't do anything can bellport football. Show little toughness is a breast bone thing. Yes i think. I'm going to fracture okay. Friend of mine's like disney issue. Now and he's like a handy guy around a house and stuff and he's he had to get an mri. He's always doing things you know. He's he's doing stuff. He's had to get surgery on a wrist his back and now i need surgery on a knee and i told him i said this is why i don't do anything because we look at you. You're out there. You're chopping wood your exercise how this is why i don't do anything. He's younger year younger than me. So he's thirty seven thirty seven and that's why you don't do anything at age thirty eight because i look at this guy. He's the wheels of fallen off already. Can't walk around his knees. He's got a meniscus tear. So like me just now what you did hear. That was me. it was very violent. Felt violent trying to do that on skates with the guy. That's six foot ten. No what is he thinking. That matt matt martin. What are you thinking man. You beat the hell out of these guys last night. Why even get into ridiculous. Each the morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer and geo jerry recco is with us to give us a sports update. What's going on jerry. Good morning morning brought to you by town fair tire. Nobody beats town fair tire. New buddy boy. Yankees had their chances in that loss yesterday. Aaron judge certainly had the toughest of days. You would make that case especially in the ninth inning. When he had a big spot is the to to to judge struck him out swinging. Great pitching by romano and the yankees. Come up empty. And what do you know in the first game of the year we go to extra inning and so an expert on this guy remodel the i guess would do the exercises. He goes to before throws a pitch god. Have you ever seen by like that. I've seen some crazy stuff. But the whole bending down dipping this was unique writings crazy stuff over the years. I remember deo nomo. He's delivery and was crazy like turn like all the way around thirty craig. Kimbrel gets another one about louis theon of course. That was a long long time ago. Our bosque yeah the mad gary. Yup you sound like keith hernandez yesterday was making all these references was like you know catfish hunter and bob gibson guys names all over again. Yeah sure you just those two. Yep here was the tenth inning. They put the fake runner. At second base accepted counts and the first batter up for toronto. San hose of said now deals and the pitches line to right field. Judge going back and it's over his head. One hop off the wall davis will score easily and greet check goes to second of the double line. Drive double right over judge head in right. Field and toronto takes a three chula judge head did did he misjudge it or what. I think that he didn't play well he didn't go back on. The ball is adeptly as meets baz. Make me want to puke. What do you think jerry you. Tell me your main coach. He's a he's a professional rightfielder. That's twisting and turning the wrong way. I would say yes. He misplayed the ball. Hard hard to argue with. It actually was wendy yesterday. Some sun out there. Some shadows there was some sun area. It's not that easy. Yeah you ever try to catch a ball and that's jerry. You're out there in right field once. I don't try fly balls well okay. He's a professional right fielder. But what i'm saying is like nobody. I haven't heard one person say that. He misjudged that. Actually antibody did guys on tv. We're talking about how the ball said over his head. Janki guys come see. Because they're yankee shells. Yeah i mean everybody else was watching the game with any sort of interest thought to be misplayed. The ball under carl yastrzemski award winner. When you see an outfielder turning the wrong way what do you think this yeah He misjudged the ball right. Yes john sterling. Had the calls on the fan. Three two in ten was the final so not the best of days for the yankees to open areas. Here was judge knows. He didn't get it done at the plate opportunities and especially like i said earlier at the plate with guys in scoring position tie game you know. I could have given us a lead or done. Something and We just didn't execute wasn't just him though when you look at Lemay hugh judge hicks. Stanton toro's an shell a combined two for twenty six twelve strikeouts not great And you had. The only offense was a home. Run by gary sanchez. Garrett cole amazing gave up that game tying home run to tasker hernandez he says me and sanchez. no issues just which. I didn't throw that stupid pitched hernandez thought for the most part We did a nice job And just just want that slider back. They'll work that way. Here's aaron boone. Who mentioned how bad the top six were He s on day. One if he's worried about the offense no no. We'll we'll be fine again. you know. We had our chances. We'll be fine. It's the first gain. Oh here was boone. Do you worry about the worry about stanton. Today was a tough day forum. But no i don't worry about it. He's he's too talented. I mean he's traditionally horrendous and the beginning of the season cold weather. He's off as so bad. So just buckle up for an entire month of this wake up in the middle of the season and yada yada yada and they'll strike out five times in a playoff game and everybody hate him again. And he's strike out in the tenth inning along with hickson torres. The kid julian meriwether struck out the side on thirteen. Pitch was pretty he was man. So y- the ball around ninety miles an hour. Yeah no he was good. I thought the kid nick nelson was good to even though i know how gave up the hit after that struck out the side after that. Yeah and he had great spring. That nick nelson brought north with boomer just Gave up the one hit a game. Two of the series will be tomorrow at one. Of course you guys have discussed the whole met nationals canario as they say Hopefully they'll play tomorrow. We will see francisco. Lindor did meet with the media on a video conference yesterday. Ten years three hundred and forty one million dollar deal is fired up on blessed. I'm humble to be in this organization for the next eleven years is an honor is a privilege to wear blue and orange. Yeah and he will for a decade. He was asked about the length of the contract. You're going to be met now. You're thirty eight years old. What kind of player do you think you'll be when you're years old cat. What is the kind of the concept in your mind of of that far off in the future of obama there for i got to tell you right all right at thirty eight bed. Mother effort good for him. We hope that is the case for the mets Also from yesterday you had a bunch of games as you know. The tigers did beat the indians. Three to miguel cabrera had to aren't homer through. The snow slid into second base. Not sure why because he thought the ball. You couldn't see right. Aboul brings up a good point though. Why are you sliding. I think it's just instinctual. I don't know why doesn't make guy covering second base like he's waiting for throw in he was standing. There was just standing there. I who knows man that having been said. The indians like the yankees off tory atrocious own. One i mean. How can you ever recover from that. And so i bring to you. Bruce drennan who is hosting a radio show right after the game at exactly. Yeah this is actually on tv. He's on tv and he is staring into the camera as takes phone call from very unhappy fan unhappy with one or two of the players in their pitch selection and what they are doing or not doing at the plate of terrible on opening day. Good pictures down by the way. It's forty-seven seconds. Because i wasn't cutting this enjoy. Good down the middle. He won't swing it the ball balls down around his ankles in which to shortstop into a double play. This has been going on for two years right. I guess you missed a lot of the games that raise kit in the clutch last year. No no no. No no no no young here. Yeah yeah you don't know baseball. You are a nydia pay. You are judging. Don't know what anything you know. Swat still gonna tell me. Look a judgment on the season. After one game is thirty degrees in weather ramos. Show ignorance fairweather idiots. Have a great day everybody boy. We've all been there. Yeah but that was great. That was actually pretty funny. Yeah no i mean you know that guy is what probably conservatively sixty five years old jerry. After seeing that video. I yeah i would say. That's probably about right not as thirties. That's for sure no so. Let's just could be older than that. But i'd say conservatively early sixty five years old. And he's still screaming at people like that. I thought to myself. I said man if i get the sixty five and i'm still yellen about baseball like that. It sixty five into the camera you know. That's a pretty good career. He was he was upset. And there's no question about it you stupid. Do you think that guy calls back today. Probably tried calling back right. Then that night it caught me off about sacrifice buns you might be right l. swear phillies and braves got started from citizens bank park game. Went to extras. Were philly wins. Jones ready man. His bench swung on bass towards thirty varieties. Headed down the line of the ball. Ballgames over jesusa girl has what at first ball swinging. He's singles to left in the phillies. Walk off on opening day. Three two two over the atlanta braves and that is phillies radio. I guess someone had to wait and see now. Yeah but that's that's how you endear your fans you come up with a big hit late. You walk off. How many times could the yankees have done that yesterday. Many yes especially in the then he. Dj will make you up with a runner on third and less than two outs. He was on a mac with that last year. Didn't get it done. Get out at the plate Angels beat the white sox four three goals who the go ahead. Rbi single in the eighth raising. Marlins boy scouts talk about this snooze fest one. Nothing was the final. You get an eighth inning home. Run from Austin meadows and that was it for the offense. Good pitching by tampa as you can imagine how about. This is how you up big. So we're talking about the yankees and their top six. That really struggled have about. You've got paul goldschmidt nolan arranhado. Now for the cardinals they combined go six for ten yesterday and the cardinals meet the reds are six interesting. Did you know by the way that the reds in nineteen fifty-six recalled the red leggings the red legs the red leggings. What do they call them. Eddie the red leggings right or was it red leg. The red legs red leg. I didn't know that yeah. The red lakes the red legs in nineteen fifty-six had no idea Cody bellinger hit a home run. But then it wasn't turned out to be a single. I was all part of the dodgers lost to the rockies. Eight five. I get some audio for this next hour because this was a bizarre scene in colorado where he hits a home run because the outfielder catches the ball hits the wall pops out of his glove goes over for the home run. Justin turner thought. It was caught as he's on first base round second turns to go back so it doesn't get doubled up as that happens. Bellinger passes him out but single strange But they did lose the game. Not a great star for clayton kershaw in colorado. Get any home runs in that game. Believe it or not Also of note you had the cubs lose to the pirates. Five three about that one. And the brewers beat the twins in ten sixty five in brooklyn last night. The nets were without james harden than it's war without kevin durant the nets were without blake griffin. But they still have blake griffin. Now you know what back to back maintenance take frog three how many. He was like a moment maintenance lead wednesday night. Yeah oh. I'm sorry gets back to back maintenance damon. What do you want from these guys. So lamarcus aldridge stepped in. Well he wasn't he you know what he was the star early because he was in the starting lineup. Some buckets but jeff green was the starts. Right you're twenty. One nets beat the nets. Only give up eleven points in the first quarter and they just crushed the hornets. Which helps you guys prayed. I know one eleven eighty nine was the final landry. Shamet was back. He was five seven from three. He had seventeen off the bench here. Steve nash only allowing eleven points in the first pretty clear You know one of the best starts we've had Maybe since before the break probably in trading for steph and kerry one of the lakers want him going to lakers boomer come on you know that he all jr fun out there. He's got great. You know they got touching me up and he certainly provided in producing the other guys. Come back you ain't getting touches me. No i don't even think he's gonna care. He just wants to win. That's that's called a teammate. Boomer irving kyrie irving at fifteen points eleven rebounds eight assists he was talking about that type of iq where you have a big you down to to slow the game down and able to make good decisions now. Kevin durant did speak to the media. He says his return is imminent. Though it won't be this week He also apologized for the language he used in the dmz with michael rapaport whatever Brooklyn remains a half game ahead of philadelphia for first place in the east because the sixers buried the cavaliers won fourteen ninety four. They've done well without joel. Embiid who i think is coming back next game or the game after that The he did move past the knicks with a win over the warriors. They're twenty five and twenty four. The hawks hide the knicks at twenty four. And twenty four as they beat the spurs in overtime. One thirty four one twenty nine and the pelicans played without zion williamson. They played without brandon ingram and they played without lonzo ball and they lost the magic and overtime one fifteen one ten tonight. Knicks take on the mavericks and kristaps porzingis north carolina. head coach. roy. Williams announced his retirement. I was so bummed out when this happened. Not because i care about roy. Williams or north carolina but i was listening to moose and magnesium i drive home and moose stops maggie mid-sentence it goes maggie. I just i i'm saw. I'm really sorry but we got some huge breaking news here and i'm thinking. Wow all right. What are we got. He goes roy. Williams is leaving north carolina. The head coach he's retiring. I said that's huge breaking news. She's like that's a huge job mags. I'm like oh. I mean switch on on that she talking about at the time. I don't remember like everything changed from that moment. And then as i started speeding and everything after that all excited for breaking news is big news in the college basketball world by opening day. Big news yeah think you could let me handle the top of the hour and move on. Yeah exactly they get on rothstein onto discuss it but he was the guy who broke it. I guess but but yeah. I was concerned. It was an april fools. Because the real john roth account i mean you know. It's so annoying about april fools day. The whole thing with the you know the michael straight han heat in the whole thing. And he's supposedly got his teeth fixed and they didn't get his teeth fixed. And now we find out that a sith or not fixed that hit the jimmy crack corn. Definitely jimmy greco. But what's annoying about april fools days when you tell somebody something that actually happened and they don't believe you because it's april fool's sure like i was telling people yesterday as a big fan of my life. The one i talked about down in florida. I texted me man. I'm sorry you know he was jacked up. You could watch the mets on. Espn last night opening day. I said i'm sorry you know game got postponed. You've probably heard by now. You mess with me. i'd look. I'm not messing with you. Just look just googling go to social media and not mess with you. It's stupid as if he didn't know and he is waiting for you to call him to tell him that. He's obviously not connected. No he's not. He's on a beach every day Drinking high noon's sitting out there staring at the ocean. That's what he's doing and every single day of sounds lovely. It is have only ramona's corona rangers sabres. Last night they go to overtime and your blue shirts picked up the two point. San reinhart controlling leaves it for victory. Looks good play by savannah. Jet a turnover. Here's a two on one better. Genton savannah jets rangers. The great sam rosen on. Msg the game winner there. Three to the final score eager To see one saves two straight for the blue shirts and five of seven. And i got to be fair because the island i can. I didn't realize this fourteen one intuit home as they beat the capitals last night on the exchange for matt bars l. bars l. Lofted off right. they're dealing with carlson. Bartell pops out feeds may feel dragged. Shoot save made early back in front. Barzan scott was brendan burke on. Msg plus part of his three goal to assist the isles clobbered. The capital got hit You gotta get the call where he one end and go find one. And i want to hear that when you get it before the end of this update if you want now nurse i can tell me. Which one did you see the golden. I did not know on the exchange for matt moore's l. barzal lofted colorado right. They're dealing with carlson. How did you know that actually listen. Yea i've listened to brendan burke because good fresh trying to get it from backdrop enchant. This is a number moore's l. to pick it up from deep in his own here you go blows past talk wilson now working on chara bars there. You go pretty good unbelievable. We've been through guys and everything else and when right around chara hell that mathew barzal as my in my eyes is top. Five offensive player in the league devils capitals later tonight each morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer and geo. Oh i did see. We're talking about how i got. All excited about. The breaking news announcement during the meuse and maggie showed huge breaking news and it turned out being roy williams retiring and i get it. I mean for north carolina. It's a big deal for college. Basketball is a big deal. But i feel like for we really care all that much. Probably not but the roy williams safety member safety roy williams player yes so he was getting all sorts of tweets yesterday because people are so stupid on twitter. You know after roy williams retired. This guy was getting all the tweets. Tom izzo getting all the tom. Izzo basketball crash tweets. Yes and there was another one. I saw yesterday too so i guess there's some i don't know this story so forgive me the full extent of the story. But i guess there's a congressman in florida. Whose mixed up in some craziest matt gaetz and all right. So there's some guy. Just some verified twitter account guy who has a name that's not gates but it's spelled like it's like matthew gertz or something okay and he spent all day yesterday going. You got the wrong guy. He got the wrong guy he got the wrong guy mentions tweets and replies. He'd like two thousand items. You got the wrong guy. It's not me you got the wrong guy. And i'm thinking up at this point i mean honestly the anybody with a brain understand said. It's not you these twitter people like. Oh you're terrible personal dial you did or whatever and it's like come on figure it out. I mean you've got so many morons thinking in missouri digital guys the real. Tom izzo and they started trolling them by putting a picture of the two of them together. That really set them off. Yes the real time is michigan. State head. Coach would put tom izzo. Wfan and his profile stop. And then you got. People not understanding which roy williams is the same roy williams but whatever twitter is a place for idiots. I suppose hey al. How was your twitter. No twitter after the show going so he tweeted out some stuff yesterday after the show while i know social media after the show until i eat my dinner at five. Oh okay. so that's the new rule. The news my new rule all right. Why why is that. Because i was getting to locked into it and it was making me miserable. Yeah i noticed a change in just even the first day i did it and i even like addictive li i kept grabbing my phone. Go check and then i would stop myself before i would hit the app. Yeah it's a hard habit to break. Yeah very hard habit to break. You gotta really like train yourself to not do it. If you're someone like me you're like al. Who is always messing around with the phone. Social media and looking at stuff. it's like impossible. You gotta really dedicate time to get away from it. No the amazing thing is. We have three sports. Three of the main force sports all underway right now. We have the masters coming. We the nfl draft coming. This is like the month of april is saying a good month. It's a great month after last year. Yeah so when you think of in in the world of professional sports with the nba the nhl major league baseball. The nfl draft the masters. It's crazy it is. I mean it is what you want to say. It is a big deal and especially after last year having nothing at all and everything being postponed. I mean. it's really nice to have everything more mazing that we had a masters in november. And now we're going to have another one in april that is true. I know well this this feels right. I mean some of us did not feel right. I'm sorry i'm happy that it happened. I'm happy that you had a masters in november. I'm happy that you had a kentucky derby during the summer at some point but it just it just didn't feel real. I was tougher to get into. I mean the fact that everything is back on track opening day april first in baseball. The masters happening when it's happening next week. Which by the way. There's going to be special coverage on cbs sports. Now there will be next week so we will be on for three hours. And then we'll go off the air and then starting at nine o'clock there's gonna be a masters coverage and off at eight thirty on a wednesday or thursday and friday. Okay thursday and friday often thirty special masters coverage on. Cbs sports network. So everybody get ready for all of that. But it's a big deal man. It's like the real masters is back for crying out loud. So yeah i mean this is great. This is you. Can't i mean we've said so many times. It's almost like cliche stuff but one of the things that you learned during this past year is don't take these things for granted don't i mean and yesterday was lay and i think that's why mets fans really bummed that the fact that things were postponed because of the nationals covert situation. Because yesterday was one of those days where it's like. We got fans back in yankee stadium. A we're we're starting the season on time and now bang. There's something else with cova that we have to deal with. And i can't see my team so i mean but still lot more good than bad. I would say especially in sports and you're going to have a national championship game in basketball on monday as well got through the entire tournament. I know there was issues here or there but got through an entire tournament. Basically knock on wood. You still got the final four on saturday. That would be something if you know these. These two teams come down to the final two and then all of a sudden covert hit. Oh come now. you're the guy. And then meteors land. Yeah and everybody could be bad. Yeah and then nobody gets to say yeah all over the place across the world. Wouldn't that be something. What's that all of that what we just said nappy something about the headless funeral. Well that too. Yeah yeah for sure. Do i get you know what i'm going to have to do. What are you going to have to do. I'm going to have to tweet out that video of us dancing. The friday good need to because you know you got on me a couple of weeks ago for that whole late this morning man. My hockey team won last just came me a crazy. Covert final four situation. You go and worst case scenario boomer by the way if it's for the final game they just wait a couple of days big deal a week. Whatever whatever it takes right eddie. That's right yeah whatever it takes whatever it takes we'll give me without need worse case scenario boomer situation not be worse case scenario. I was just giving a hypothetical and we don't need how you react to it. I know it's a thirty five degree morning. Friday new york city. Great happen happy you here. I was looking forward to a nice nice weather weekend. Well i think you'll still he's gonna be nicer tomorrow on good but today not so much freezing now. I know. I didn't think that i got out of the car is like this is not april. Did you have frost and you windshield. I did not know okay. Good as i had. I have the coroner garage so mall he did. It's probably know garage for no frost. No across okay. Well where he lives close to the water more likely more like more likely for frost Yeah i just i remember. I don't know how many months that we were talking about when sports were coming back and we'd be trying to be positive about it and then you'd pipe in with but what if somebody dies. I don't know the answer to that. Nobody does walls the one thing that we get to this point that we know that nobody has professional sport. Yes i mean everywhere else. He everybody's been affected but players on teams in professional coaches works in coaches. Yes that's that is not. That is not happy you go. Well it's going to be so great man to get these sports back home. What you test and everything and then we'll get some fans bag but what if somebody does. We've i'm laughing at that. Then what well. That's what you're doing. Well i was just thinking that. What would the reaction be to that. I always said you'd make a good insurance agent. Because you think you mind goes to the worst case scenario like you know what i wanna do. What would you like to do. I'd like to have you analyze your insurance. I'd love to. Yeah that but i was gonna say. Join me at my final walkthrough for the house before the closing. If you could sure because then you'll see everything that could possibly go wrong inside the house it'd be like you've got to fix this chimney this up this don nami wall. You don't want me there. I think i do. I don't think you do because in every single situation. I know we'll be prepared for. Yeah well yeah. I don't think you're gonna want me to sit there. This is like the house of your dreams. You know everybody's you're all locked in right now. Everybody's locked it. Isn't that even more of a reason to make sure that everything is perfect. You want me to go walking through this house with you. Yeah and then come out and say i. I'm not buying anything until these things are getting fixed. Or they're dropping the price so you can get them fixed. No no genoa kill me. No no no. I don't want that. I just want you to give me a good sense of preparation. That's all you think. I'm like one of these inspector types that come in we'll even better. I'm not an auditor. Yeah i mean let me create a problem. Yeah so you you could have to fix it. I can justify my assistance. Now i did get a full inspection. Everything look great. So everything's fine. I'm not worried about that guy did he. Just maybe he just went our she went through. And just say okay. No no no was thorough. It was and i'm not. I'm not saying like think of things that are going to prevent us from buying nassar's we're buying a house that's happening. I'm just saying from a level of preparedness. You know the things that could go wrong. Just so i have everything in order. Let's go to matt. Who's in new jersey. What's going on guy. Hey man what's up mike. A ten year contract not any special interest for the next game francisco indoor made he's just tweeting stuff to stir it up these days. It doesn't have a show anything else that he saw. That contract does a big contract. That said you know didn't like it. I mean he's just the spout doubt twitter opinions. Like anybody else was a matadi at this point. If you're a met fan you the guy got signed up the guy got signed but anybody with a brain understands that the longer the deal is the more money that it is the bigger risk. So i mean what he's saying is a necessarily wrong but if you want a player of that caliber that's what the market bears out. You gotta pay him that you gotta have monitor contract for that law and you finally have a an owner. That's willing to do that exactly. And i think that's. That's the bigger point here. Is that the mets fan. Feels like ownership woman to spend money to make the team better which is always been the crux of the argument against the previous owners. Even though they went to the world series in two thousand fifteen they spent money on players. Maybe the wrong players. Maybe they made the wrong moves may bring robinson cano and edwin diaz and trade away a jared l. nail nick. You would think that would be happy if you're a bad fan. Now look for god to take a shot on them. Who cares right exactly so to me. The hypocrisy of the mets fan that used to say or someone who looked at the mets and said oh. You don't run yourself like a big market club You don't run yourself like a team. That's in new york city. And then the match do and go out and sign trade for then. Sign a player of this caliber. And then you say too much all what is that. I mean if you think about it. Steve cohen said he wanted to run the mets like dodgers east coast dodgers right and the biggest move that the mets made is exactly a mirror. Image of what. The dodgers did with mochi bets. Exactly traded forum signed him big deal and you hope that francisco endure pays off in the way. That mckee bed says for the dodgers. And it's exactly what you want to advance so you can't bitch about not paying is and then bitch about paying is believable is it's the morning show with boomer esiason gregg giannotti boomer and geo.

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Ep 115 - Obsessed with You

The Tiny Meat Gang Podcast

1:06:09 hr | 1 year ago

Ep 115 - Obsessed with You

"What's up guys? We're GONNA team podcast. This is actually last week's episode. If you won today's episode that'll be on our patriots right now. You can get a week early early if you contribute. It's patriots dot com slash tiny. Meet Gang. So thanks if you do that and if not enjoyed this one who's I'm good are you good. I'm I'm okay. Are you good yum yum. Doing well man how you doing. I'm all right are you good. Yeah I'm good. What's wrong with you? Nothing just looking at the application screen. Share Window on dischord Oh cool. Yeah mostly wave first of all I just I wanNA give everyone a big welcome back to the podcast. I'm your host cody joined by my host. No Merry Christmas to you all right. I'll probably turn auto tune off now probably or maybe I'll just keep it on an please. Now why What was lacking? We always talked about doing podcasts. And now it's going to AH funny dude. Okay I'm gay. I don't here you with auto tuned do you do you hear yourself. Yeah Okay first of all so I sing for first thing. I just want to wish everyone a I hope everyone had a fantastic Christmas and Christmas. Also WanNa wish everyone a happy new year as well Because that's coming up in a few days ace. If you want to spend the New Year's Eve with us then you can join us in DC. Were will be doing a show and we're very excited for it so if you're in the DMV area come join us for that show. Tiny tour dot com poise. I'd say I'd recommend pulling the be honest. I'd definitely say I pull up. You definitely want to pull up like a huggies diaper pull up pull up Yep And then I think first of all we should just get right into this troy becker stuff away by the way Sukey this weekend. Yeah Troy back your list. Go wait this weekend. Yeah what day. Welcome to the little mystery. Sunday could be does not do not know which day nine which you know which day you're just you're going to. He's going to drop it on them. Yeah just wanted to pop up and you go is here. That's what I want. Okay well fair enough. All Right Troy Becker Joy. Eker Okay so have you done this kid is. I don't really know no. Sorry yet. Paul Zimmer okay this is the original. Kim Paul's Zimmer. Oh hold on. Let me let me let me navigate back here go to this. Kid's instagram. Paul Zimmer okay. I guess he was take a guy. I don't really know for sure I know. Danny I think has done a couple of videos on this guy. I think you just kind of one of these musically dudes that just was a little bit it off you know. Yeah just like something weird about him Like this Guy Paul. That's what's weird about him super career. Dude no ball Zimmer is the guy that's the original guy okay. He's so he's got eight hundred forty eight thousand followers on Instagram I'm guessing pretty big on tick tock right maybe just looking like a pretty boy I guess Okay so I guess now what he's done. This is what I've picked up. Okay since musically died I guess now. He's trying to rebrand himself as an actor actor. But I'm guessing came to the conclusion that his musically past and stuff would be kind of a burden on his new path breath in Hollywood. And so what he's doing now is he. He basically like cloned himself. He's now going as troy. He's claiming there's a kid named Troy Becker who's an actor and who's fourteen or something. Something basically Paul has claimed that this troy kid looks exactly like him. Now keep in mind. They're the same person Jason saying is weird is kid. Troy looks exactly like me. He's like a younger sexier version of me. I'm reading this this is the caption. I don't even use social social media anymore but had to post this. ha ha ha okay. Takes Takes Troy Becker I G. I WANNA do a quick a wider slender Lina. Here I'm GonNa just switch over to the window in my fucking actually. No yeah there you go. You gotTa Nate. You're going to have to do some magic here. Imagine here it's all right. Okay all right go ahead continue okay and then the next post is is another post from from Paul Promoting Troy Becker. And why don't you bring up that video. The next post can you hear here yet. We talked for a second about How cool Sukey is going to be while I set up this scene for us so we can do this? Hold on okay okay guys. Hit The fucking victory. Royale screened out to Paul Zimmer. Did this is the fucking ultimate victory Roy. Our here all right. I gotTa talk donate through this bit. All right so you're going to have to Put Cody and I in this little box. These are notes for the editor editor. Guys you you this this is what you go the teams you podcast. You get to be part of the production process as well as the listening part. It's that much fun okay. Hold on but also you. You know we're trying to do. We're trying to basically do a reaction a reaction video across the fucking country into several parts of the country the country and boom. I got him on. Scream scream screen. I can't talk all right. We we got everything. Okay Yeah we're good courtesy of me. The streamer okay. Go hit that second posts all right hold on hold on so this. Is The post everybody. This is the post with Paul and Troy just so I have this right. Paul is the real one troy is the clown have to say two things first of all. He's the kid boo of musically the stars he's cloned himself. He took one out this guy. How old hop first of all I want to see how old he actually is? Paul Zimmer. He's he is kid boo down to lying about the age part. The other exactly the other thing is I feel like he took a page out of like Venezuelan baseball players. Uh when they when they come to America and they're like yeah I'm only eighteen and they're like thirty cracking fucking crazy crazy homerun numbers and you're like your. You said your eighteens again maintain. I'm eighteen. You GotTa respect that age is just a number. They're just trying to get a fresh start you you know. Do He's policy. Zimmer's twenty four and this troy. Becker kid is supposed to be fourteen dog done puberty dude like twice by now and you're going to try and revert back to a fourteen eighteen year old. This is we'll get into the Troy Becker instagram after. But hit that second post You mean the video or the video you can see my screen share right. Yeah looking at it no doubt I mean on Paul's Zimmer's Instagram Okapi. Caviar right so yeah. We're still like this. This is Fox. Man It's fucked up Dude Yucky. That second was right there the second from the first one. Yeah Oh boy here we go. I'm telling you this is his second post promoting this new identity. He has uh sued. I with his hair. Is that a wig. Is that a wig wise they hairline. I'm down here. Lewd it down to his his head. Maybe he's fucking like fifty and he's actually bald he. It really has no idea what he's a sixty year old man can fourteen year old doesn't know what Tick Tock is. That's the only kid right now is like I don't know something called Tick Tock Amish Amish kids know they probably even know what that is. Okay so it gets fucking weirder man. So the GO-TO the third post. Hey It's Paul Zimmer this is probably going to this is probably going to be my last social post ever. I must say that I am very grateful for social media and I have had such a fun time using all these different social platforms and having the opportunity to entertain millions of people for many years with this is being said I have come to a place in my life or being in the spotlight and being an entertainer is no longer my passion. Although deeply saddens me to leave so bluntly especially that so many of you have watched me for so many years dude. How long was this kid? I'm fucking musically for duties. He this was around for like eight months. Do this. It is like Academy Award Level Man. It's he talks like he's Morgan Freeman. I know I didn't WANNA leave my social media pages just sitting to die dot dot dot so I have decided to give my social media accounts to Troy Becker I g because he is one of the dope is people I know and and he is literally my younger twin. My much younger twin. I believe Troy is fifteen or sixteen years old. Ha Ha ha crime. Odi I know that Troy Becker. Iga Gee is busy filming his TV show and a movie. But I hope he spent some time on here to bring joy to. y'All thank you all so much for supporting me. I'm sending all of my love to each and every one of you all Jenna each and every one of you everyone is 'cause I'm in the stream chair I just got to give it a quick look camera. Hold on him with him with it. Did you do it okay. Good Nam genuine. This is this is. This is bizarre. All right so now. Next posts. K still. It's still on. Paul Zimmer. Next Post Dylan Paul Zimmer next post this is this is fucked up doing what kind of year. Hey Hits Roy Becker. It feels we the guy who who was that you were there. That was kidnapped Marina Joyce Yeah Yeah Yeah Marina Joyce Yeah. Yeah Him and Marina Joyce or the part of some larger conspiracy where they got lobotomize than we. Oh not that I brush. Pants are super tight. Bro Yeah I now. Uh that there's just too much fucking detail their shit. Hey it's troy ounce troy Nazi fifteen year old. Yea You read this all so you're looking at child porn. That's what you're looking at right. I know yeah exactly. Hey it's Troy Becker. It feels weird posting this on here sweating emoji. That's how I read those emojis. Asphalt as you all know from Paul's Zimmer's last post no longer uses social media and decided to give me social media accounts because we become great friends and we look quite similar. I must admit shit. My instagram is Troy Becker. I G Paul's asked me to also post on here and to spread love and joy. I am honored to have this opportunity to reach so many amazing people want to thank. You have so many big things coming my TV in a movie show. I am working on but I will make time to spread love all over social media. You Bro he's GonNa call leader like give him a couple years bro it's you. This is so scary. Legitimately this is wild. What if this is a big joke? It was like what if it's a bit hairline again dude. What is going on the way the next most a it's Troy Becker? I G wishing Allah Merry Christmas and then in parenthesis still feels so weird posing on his account. Ha Ah I just WANNA still make it clear that it's this is weird stuff that I'm doing this but it's absolutely not my account. And I'm I'm Troy Becker. And I'm not Paul Zimmer at all and it's and this is Troy Becker here from fifteen lynn. I'm an actor all as this dude. Kate hairline here. You're very normal hairline. Hero he's coming it across the front. He's doing yeah all right. He's he's stapling banks to his for it all right now. Let's go to Letroy Becker. I G love this action. Shot right here. He loves sports tonight. We go to the very first the very first post his first one ever and redecoration blessed to be filming my TV. Show them on the best part about all of this troy. Becker Shit is that he keeps going on about his TV show in his movie that he's filming right and then he'll post clips of him of like from the TV show or the movie or whatever and he'll say this scene with crying emojis like this scene killed me and it's just someone filming him some other random person with the DSL l.. Are Not even mics or anything. The Audio Associati. He's trying to pass it off like it's a real fucking TV. Show dude all right you. I know you know it creeps me out about this and this is just. This is actually great timing so hold up almost which Greens resentment So everyone's talking about this shit on Netflix. fucking don't fuck with cats got damaged. Yeah my fuck the screen of hold on. What's the deal with that show all right so it's a it's a documentary and if you're from Canada I think the story isn't that interesting because you've probably you're very familiar with it but it's about this kid and I'm blanking on his name hold on It's about a Luca. What is stupid Shitty name? He's a piece of shit and I have no fucking Luca magneto. Okay here's what's creepy by this troy. vacher thing SASKIA Luca Mag Nada. He basically murdered cats like kittens it and he liked. He made two videos and these people on facebook. I'm super super abbreviating. This whole story. You should watch the documentary. It's fucked up dude PA- basically these he's It's regular people on facebook. Look at this and this is fucked up and take it upon themselves to try to figure out who he is so they create like a little group and and they kinda. Yeah they kind of get in touch with like some popular Like TV Show like is buddies guys in New York that fucking go bully people out of animal abuse like what the fuck you doing it a fucking dog give us the comcan talking doll and so it's getting all this attention. And then they randomly get a message from like a burner account that says. Hey the person you're looking for is Luca MAG data and they look up this kid Luca. And he's got all these weird audition tapes on Youtube and all these goofy photoshop pictures of his face on like people doing like rich people. Shit and they're they. They're kind of following along as he gets he posts a couple of videos of him murdering cats. And then they're like dude he's going to move on to a person and Lo and behold he moved onto a person and he fucking fucking uploaded the video of him killing that person and would so what creeps me out about the whole thing. Is that it this kid with this. I'm not saying Paul Zimmer is GonNa fucking murder somebody but it creeps me out that he's got this weird elaborate scheme to get attention. It's like kind kind of on the same level as this kid. Luca in that like it's it's it's a very weird way of putting attention on yourself. The dam yeah. Yeah down and by the way that that the murder itself is not even like not even the the full like gambit of that story it is fucking it is wild what that kid did and and the type is like Oh man you you have to see if none of you have seen it watch it. I was reading that it was getting I was reading that. It was getting some heat because people are like. This is exactly what he would have wanted wanted. He would've wanted everyone on Netflix. Watching a documentary about him. Yeah Yeah But it and and to that point the girl the lady who kind of jumped on the whole thing at the end she is like sort of really broken up and and I think she's like crying she's like I feel guilt because I feel like I gave him what he wanted. An I'm a catalyst for the murder of this innocent person and I feel responsible follow because he murdered the person Whoa when he already know he already knew that people were like kind of looking into yeah and like paying attention to his moves and and trying to figure him out you know she. She dark as Yuck and so she looks to camera and she goes are weak complicit or like a are we complicit lissette are we complicit you watching this documentary are you complicit and am I telling you about it or we complicit do we keep talking about this or do we just turn it off and then the documentary ends okay. So they address that they do. Yeah they definitely do see. I mean I mean I've I've in jail now. Yeah he's a piece of shit man like he's like he's so he's all smiles about it. He has quotes about being like. Oh Yeah it's like a a big summer camp. It's like going to college. Fuck that dude. Yeah I hope he dies two man I that's fucked up and I don't wish death on anyone. I'm not even wishing it on him per se but he just I think he deserves a lot worse than he got. uh-huh is he just doesn't seem to give it. Let's you're saying Paul Zimmer could potentially be the next. I don't know this is. This is just weird. This is weird. They know it's fucking it's weird to do it in just out in the open like this and act like it's not one hundred percent obvious what he's doing he can't possibly think anyone is actually falling for this shit can he. I mean that's that's what I don't get is is why this like is it a bit is it. It doesn't seem like a bit like the look in his eyes as mega hollow. I do that. That joker picture on us. I'm looking at that. She she right now. I hate that I loved. I loved some of the comments. It's after we reviewed that someone said joker the joker was the most overacted overrated piece of shit. I saw that open up that. So let's look at his like monologue real quick. And then we'll start talking about troy back 'cause he's just fifteen-year-old trying to make it in Hollywood to like pick on them like we are who are we to rose to fifteen year old exactly Dude fifteen-year-old Venezuelan baseball player. Whoa this audio's fought? Do you think you'd get a fucking. I can live Mike at least if you're trying to play this off like it's a real movie who ooh also this lenses soft as fuck I don't and get a sharper Lens. Only filmed iphone portrait mode. Uh Baqi Dan nailed he nailed the sorry. Go ahead He mailed the work now. The way he nailed the teen drama. You know this is is what they care about hanging out and being on their phones and you know when those two worlds collide sometimes it can lead to a little bit attention and as you know as Paul has star Troy has found out here becky might be more interested in in her phone then. She is their connection. I I I love the matt bars on a sixty-nine Hsieh just completely cropping out the top of his head and framing out his hand this skills very TV. As far as I'm concerned exactly. I mean that was definitely a stylistic choice by the DP for sure sorry his short film all right. Let's let's let's write out man. I can't wait till I run into him in a in an audition room and you're like Oh troy oy troy what's up doing and he's like yeah because I'm fifteen. This role is going to be hard for their production. Because I can only be on set for about four hours so technically a minor fucking light died dammit becky. You can talk to him. You know that right this fucking empty hollow eyeballs. You can talk into that fucking as wild Bro. So he looks dead inside. Fuck this picture. There looks like zero happiness in in his book and what. He's trying to play off this. He's trying to produce his bullyish innocent. Look think right this is this read the caption for that picture too. I love seeing people smile. It always makes me smile to dude. That's not a smile at all. You're fucking stone-faced. That's a deadpan. Maybe there's a little little maybe the corners are turned up a little bit. That's a joker smile right there. You know the Joker Smile is oh by the way. I'm sorry for watching on Youtube. My light just died unfortunately. So it's going to be a little bit dark last half of the podcast. He's just GonNa put you just GonNa fuck and Luca Magna the rest of this shit Let's not do that. Let's not make him a term. Yeah Yeah Paul Zimmerman. That's what he wants. This is this is. This is so strange man. Why do this with the dog face? That's what I don't get. This is such a serious. Both guys have meet. You gotta be bad did. It's gotTa be a bit this is going to get him into. SNL Yeah this. This is like digital audition. Pretty much his whole fake persona Jonah wild absolutely wild. Well alright looking. I love this scene. Play stop it stop it. Is it done No more is done than a this. I hope he's all right man. I really hope he's okay. Yeah Yeah it is a little bit. It's a little bit worrisome. kind of seems like something like quaking you hear that the TV in the background. No okay. It's fine it kind of seems like something really drastic that you do. When you're kind of in a bad place you know like he was like not that things weren't going well for him in Hollywood or something so he feels? He felt like he had to make this big of a shift. Yeah the whole has feels fucked up. Yeah so strange did YEP anyways what What's this you found the U. House on Zillow the youth? This man Did someone send you this. Yeah somebody sent me this. This is crazy. That's actually it isn't it. I don't I don't WanNa docks the the The address on hold on all right. I'm switching back over so this is apparently the house from the U. In the U. That's grunge do you know by the L. O. V. E. thing in the back. I mean the whole thing. I don't know I don't know the person who sent it to swears. This is the House that. Lv is pretty distinct right. Yeah it is and that little garden is like pretty fucking similar. Is this not the the the Golden Light Gibson tell hold on. I'm taking it out. Wait I think it might be dude. I think this is it who found this shit. How did they find this I don't know damn this is wild. It's a million bucks at one point one million alien is it depends. It's into two Panga Canyon. We can say that. Oh Moon to Bango. Yeah this looks like it. Holy Dog Shit so they were renting a one point one million dollar house nineteen hundred square feet fucking tango. Yeah they got a studio as well. Look at that pop in Umbro. Damn Dude. That's crazy. They're fucking killing it clearly. Tenders Studio in there too. Should we buy. Hi this place. Yes by it runs. Put is already got a podcast studio built into it. We've put all their chips on this one. Let's go bankrupt for this fucking. The House is the ultimate ultimate. Bit Dude it just comes full circle and we move into the fucking you house. That's that's our Troy Becker. Move Right there and go fucking insane main. We're just just our last. Are We blog ourselves just drinking so much Roseanne just in straitjackets. Hey guys worth on the ground. And this is the tiny gang podcast but actually we found our younger hunger. ten-year-old brothers who want to run the podcast now they're they're actually ten years old and they love celery fair enough fair enough fair enough dying laughing at the idea of lying about your age onset being. I'm like fucking so clearly a thirty five year old and then demanding like your teacher has to come to set and you have to leave after six hours and you haven't had your mandatory three hour break and I mean it's definitely illegal right. Yes let's say he actually got a GIG. He's going to have to like say his real age. Yeah Yeah No. That's what I mean. If you're like a minor have to bring a teacher to set you can't you can't just be out of school just making your movie. Hi Wilson. Yeah thanks for coming today. I'll get back to my geometry autry homework later. This is my teacher you guys. She's such a stickler. It's this is boy who's also twenty four. Just take your Mrs Wilson. That's me Yup Mrs Wilson. I'm a teaser. EASIES fucking off. White t shirt Mrs Wilson. I'm here to teach Paul. I mean in a troy. Fuck my bad. Did she later when you wrapped up when you wrapped. I'm GONNA teach you Pythagoras theorem. You know what I mean. I mean Miss Wilson's coming through the with the mass. 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My must us the asshole of I one I enter it gets my free must the underwear this podcast brought to you by my musty asshole. Man You know you came up. Where would you get I got Secured the dog camera. Now it's pretty good. I wanted to get that one on me. Good until until I'm like blasting like share or something in the apartment by myself you know just just fucking banging out to that trip in right now as you say. That's IT I want. I wanted to get the one. That's a little robot that can shoot the treats out and shit but I know all bark and punch it and try to fight. Fight it. Yeah you would try to beat it of you think you can use to. I think he can give trees from the one I got. I think I don't know I feel like it's it might be like more of an anxiety inducer for more than anything because like when you see your dog doing some weird shit. You can't really like you can talk to it through the machine. You're not home so then I just fuck I gotta get home. I'm out. I'm an hour away. My my nightmare is like I always thought like if you buy one of those like imagine you just like it's like you're just sitting somewhere in our away like what what's the dog doing and you just see like a bag of Hershey's chocolate just like rolled over open saying you're like Oh no fuck talk to screaming through the fucking microphone trying to get its attention. Keep it away now. You fucking touch good boy come here come over here boy just having to triage you come on come on. I wonder how hard she treats fire out. It just gets jammed into doesn't do shit it. Yeah Yo cool DOT COM. What else what else? I got some t shirts masterclass. I gotta Yup I bought some Troy Becker Merch MHM Troy backers merged is just like A. It's like a like a scene holder. You know it's like a nice. It's a nice leather book for holding your all your scenes for all your auditions and for memorize lines for your TV shows and in your movies. Weird I just got like a piece of plastic and it said Raffarin your face whose f. from those from Troy you just Hold around your face and let it let it suffocate. You Nice Call. Yeah Yeah you get to choose when you don't use it though. Would you get the fuck. Did I get. I didn't even like ask for much. I'm big on I'm good got on your big on I'm good yeah like like So I'm going to get you a gift. It's alright I don't I'm fine. I don't want to get. Yeah but it's also cool like my parents got me Tim Horton's coffee. Which is like I dunno it? Just cool shit that you wouldn't think about that like in two weeks. I'm happy I have this home and that stuff I appreciate if I feel like it doesn't break your bank in any way and it was like a cool unique like oh like a Lena's Lena's mom got us This thing the two rubber plastic tool that is used to just scrape dry food off a dish so so if you dish I didn't even know that was real and I was like super geeked about that. It's fucking cool man. Yeah or even shit like And like I had mentioned I was like out of hair shit and I wasn't going to the barber to get more and Kelsey like got me that for Christmas and I was like this is awesome. mm-hmm saves me so much time and at least for me because he knows I hate and just doing errands like that the fucking. That's why Amazon prime now is dangerous. Man Yeah true but I will say this. I always just put in the one massive order order on on prime now. I haven't been to grocery store. I went to the grocery store for the first time in like six months the other day I that was an accomplishment for me that that was my gift to me this year not having to go the fuck grocery store. Yeah that's a good resolution. So that's like I'll just go chill. It trader. Joe's on him by anything. I'll just relax. They're just hang out. She has like the vibe chairs. Actually saw dis walk around the product. And what's new. You know what they brought in over the last couple of weeks trader. Joe's is fine because it's a it's a walkable distance it's a it's a healthy size Ralph's and those bigger ones that should pisses me off because you put everything in a big ass zigzag to just get get you going around in there like a Goddamn as a hate that ship so much dude. Yeah when we went to Walmart and fucking Secaucus Psalm. This is one of the that fucking Walmart is your J- huge. Its usage sit. I haven't been to a Walmart and forever and we got in there and you're like I fucking hate this. It's house only yeah. It really is like Walmart. You just going there to work there. That's why you hire employees. He's because they're just as fucking losses you. There's no point literally no point Hawk Walmart. Man Uh I got I got I got sucked my own ass real quick look my own ass. Yeah what. I can't believe it's Donman. I believe it's done Sukey. Yeah I can't believe yeah that's congrats. That's huge that's huge actually. Now that's great i. Are you pumped. Yeah I think the weirdest shit on the dual video about it like announcing the weirdest thing is it's like when you know first of all if you're I know some people isn't it isn't it go. I WANNA make a short film to Don't do it alone hire everyone. They do not do it alone. That is my biggest fucking piece of advice. That whole doing it by yourself shit. It's a myth whenever you see an actor and it says directed by them them as well very rarely. Is it actually them. You know. Unless it's like Ben Affleck or the softy brothers but other than that It's a myth that you don't want to do it all that's that's all I gotTa Addison unless it's like the only thing you're doing for months at a time yes. Yeah if it's the only thing focused on sure go for it I I was very fortunate to not have that. You know what I mean like things for us had gone really well so I couldn't focus on it one hundred percent. Yeah dry dragged get out but you know the definitely now so sitting on it and like doing all the music videos we've done in like even the most recent one it's like I can spot all these things like damn we just hired like this person or whatever. I was chuckling a message did you this but I was chuckling it. It's it wasn't comically bad but like it was pretty bad how small the crew was. I can't even believe that it came together with that small all the crew pretty. Yeah we this is the last thing I'll say that's like film shit. But so we had Tom's the gaffer he had had one guy below him who was a swing He's a swinger it's crazy fucking. How is that relevant? The swinger minutes factor the him and his wife they decided anyways He was sucking him and fucking his wife the whole now we had. We had a genie swing so he would help with the electric team or he'd help with electric and then grip and we had one key grip and then one guy below him so it was just the four of them do for that final scene we set up like a twenty by Diff- like like twenty feet by twenty feet and it was just them doing that and like it just like how long somehow they fucking did it in like an hour. Which I this Christ that plus lights and whatever I mean it was just Just not enough people but not by any stretch thing thing about Justin one guy running back and forth from a truck grabbing see stans just one not three not for just one fucking dude tough yeah and some of those days were fucking chaos like. We're understaffed by at least ten people. I can't fucking believe we. We did that Shit it is so I'm I'm more hype now like looking at just how small and and how insane it was that we were able to pull that. That shit off. It's yes yeah so I'm happy anyway. Now that's great. I mean as a good story to you think it is good that you can. It's good that you can I mean it's it's a good learning experiences. Good the you can be onset now with like what we're shooting recently and then you can look back and be like man. I can't believe that we made that mistaker. That did it with this little people. Or whatever I'll never do that again blah blah blah. I mean that's what it takes Yeah Oh man and just like it was like the whole thing was just rawle like trying to make a movie type Hustle and having everything so many shots like stolen or like you know. Nico- like the There are a bunch of inserts negotiated. All the location Reps. I convince them all to just let me come out for free and I was like only only be there for an hour and we stood there for like two two and a half. And they're like you said you're only going to be like an hour. Just we just need a I like I fucking finessed. The homeowner for this one specific insert of a sprinkler. Getting him to turn it on and off on and off on uh-huh his hand. I'm like yeah I'm totally going to send you the movie and like I was like I'm Never GonNa talk to that guy again a couple of bucks all your Mo- by a coffee told this story but like with the permit you have to put up. No Oh parking signs within a certain time window and if you don't it fucking invalidates your permit and I didn't know that until like a couple hours before like the period I don't know how that fell off and communications so I had to like do Dr Glendale at like two o'clock I had to get it up by like three fifteen or something. Okay from the fucking West Side. I'm like Oh God I'm not GonNa make it and I get there and I My Taylor meets with the signs and we didn't have fucking string to like hang it up like he just found like just random like plastic wire that we just like. I don't know what the fuck and we tied up in the location owner was like. Oh yes sometimes the cops and they see that they won't market as valid because it has to be like a specific type of rope once. Yeah Yeah and he's like You might want to stay here and so Taylor had to stay there until the cops showed up just prepared to be like nick. Hey can you please not fuck us. And he said the COP came up looked at it and then like he just Kinda like shot him a look Kinda like think as as if to be like. I know that string socks but I'm let it go and then he just back away. She's it was something like that. I can't remember at this point but yeah yes I mean we kind of like what kind of what kind of person. Actually it would be like. Wait a minute wait a minute you never know did this. Isn't high high fucking fucking fiber whatever fiber hyphen hiring. This is low. Fructose string with going on here are are have you chuck Taylor and Kale or are they pump. That is coming out. Oh Yeah yeah definitely. Everybody's Hi Tom hype. Everybody's like whole cruise. Hell Yeah I I. I is crazy because for one scene. Like some extras just brought. The extra brought her mom in her sister and there were laterally. Can we just be a part of it. Weren't against it. We're like yeah sure. Yeah I guess more people the better. Yeah but I I was scrambling because They they were like yeah. We don't mind doing it if like we can just get thrown into the credits on Mike. Sure and I like in Taylor were like Did you write their names down. And he's like oh FARC crawling. Guess just guess Susan and and and it's just making me station stationed weird ass names. You know what we'll just hit a gender neutral name stationed in that way. I'm guessing it's Janeth. It's Janeth right with a t h and her mom. Denise binging eat Jonathan Jonathan matches disappeared. Yeah I mean the determinant Janet Than Jonathan Jonathan Denise baby so I don't know I'm a little bit scared you to put it out but fuck it man it's now land. You should be proud of it. It's a have to like get my mind out of that like you. GotTa you gotTa do one to do a better one and and yeah do it. Put it up onto the next one onto the next. We'll be onto the next because within a few weeks we'll have We don't talk about that. You need to go the bonus episode of find out about that one. Yeah Bitch that's Info for Free Bitch Shit Bitch Bitch. What sorry go ahead? You're fine all right all right while just just going to say. It's the end of the year. We talk about our New Year's resolutions. Yeah man sure I don't know right. Yeah no you know we should do like hold on. We'll do damn we did. Let's talk about this. Actually we So last year we did We did a best bits of the year compilation. We did we did. We haven't we haven't really done shown any we haven't talked about doing one again for this year but we can talk about one comes to mind immediately and that's the The the dude at the party with the feet people was a bro looks good clucking problem. I I think that's the hardest. I've left on the ball game. I can't I can't remember anything being honest. I can't remember any any fucking bids at all. I started going through my notes. I know I could find one. The one that is not from this year with I remember talking about babies on American Erkin idle fucking APPS and like they can Danson. Shit I don't remember that. Yeah it's never like saying like a baby winning America's got town it's just like it's like a rip Dass baby it's like two years old and the crowd outages going fucking nuts just talking so my God beautiful beautiful talent really really what you say your name is again Troy Becker. He just. He's on a baby he just says he's a baby. Everyone's like really you're too. He's like. Yeah I'm two years old boy I'm too I'm too and I'm here to be a baby troy to A baby mom two years old. And this is a me singing some by Madonna Brown going through my notes whole on suck amount dig on my camera hold on. I'm going through my notes to Ziva. Could find old bit man. My notes APP goes way the fuck back Okay you can't read that No I mean Now I mean it's it's been a great year but we you know a lot of it. I realized I was writing a writing a video right now just going over like all the shit that happened in the last year it we were away a lot. Oh yeah we weren't home like at all everything was just like and I think you know I think like focusing on the podcast or at least like You know like building off of older bits and stuff Is a little bit tough in that just in in in that scenario you know yeah I mean I think next year. We'll definitely hit it smarter and I think like I can't I don't Wanna I don't WanNa Yeah we we have ideas on how when we go on the road how to make sure We hit the bonus onus episodes and we got we got some ideas on how on how our our next tours is going to be different. And now we're gonNA do things differently. mm-hmm which I'm excited for. I think I think yeah. That'll be resolution is to make sure the podcast is not suffer as a result of what's going on the road did we did okay this year but I think next year definitely has to be better and it will be as I think all the things we have planned is GonNa make it really really strong. Yep I agree Agri however I being said if you listen to. TMZ This year. We appreciate you very much. Oh Yeah Yeah seriously really big thank you I mean this year has been fucking crazy fucking record deal walkman song with black bear just everything this has been. I don't even know how the fuck we we beat this next year. That's that's scares yeah. It was pretty crazy year. Honestly I'll take no but I think we just put our heads down keep making shit. Yeah that's the key I mean. That's that's what I WANNA do. Yeah no I I think I think all our plans for next year I think are going to be sick and I think we're going to naturally do just like this here. We'll we'll naturally find ways into doing crazy shit and and stuff that is beyond what we thought and yet I think we actually get there and I think you know twenty twenty good years going to be a good year for everyone. Yeah tweet at us. Your your New Year's resolutions. We WanNa know yeah yeah or write them in comments or the comments we actually WanNa read some at the show in DC. He yes so bright. If you're listen I guess Patriot. It'd be right now so just list them in the comments on Patriots. You got any funny resolutions or anything at all actually really just honest resolutions Like mine for example is I want to. I want to make more sound effects with my mouth in videos and stuff when I make a joke go stuff like that Gertrude. or or You know Aetna that one dude sorry I am that I like what Bachelorette Bachelorette but WWF style. Shit it states in Birmingham Alabama. And wait a minute. That's Janet's it's music away from him. Bethany Bro Ah Jonathan Ginny Ginny. I'm Janet and Ginny and assist Jonathan Geneva and we're here the Geneva aw I watched Hobson Shell. Oh yeah you know what man I okay. This is like I actually had a newfound appreciation for met like super budget action films like that. which is they have so much money? The amount of coverage bridge those guys can get is dope they get everything guns reloading. Somebody blinking somebody sneezing this guy fighting over here like name a movie where you get you know what literally looking every character is doing it. Sixty Cameras Oh. Yeah when you look at the credit just like I unit second unit three unit four unit. Like they're all just really shit. Yeah Dude so wow that's wild that's really cool that's why it's dope like imagine you shoot a scene and then you're like all right. There's a fight scene but Or you're going to jump off this building but WE'RE GONNA move onto the love scene and this is a guy who looks like you. You know a whole crew and a fucking director and everything's GonNa Inaction and they're grabbing that shit like filming at that level has to be so Kush. Yeah I mean. That's what rock requires baby. Oh he can't walk in Rock Bro. That guy has got it made. There's a scene. So there's a whole aspect to Hobson. Shaw where big go to Samoa Woah. Okay has all this like Samoan like just Sort of value like someone values and family and and all this shit like injected objected in the film and his two thousand percent Iraq. Being like I WanNa go to my where my parents are from so I think you should film half the movie there and they were like yeah. Sure totally. Yeah we'll do that. And the and the writer right into the movie place they. They did a bunch of filming in London. Just stay them being like. I'd like to spend home. Ah To be home for the first half of the shoot. And they're like yeah. We'll write the story around London and Simone Shirt perfect. Those are easy to tie together. Yeah just fly the whole fucking crew. Some no problem no problem boys. That's great they do Insane Shit in that movie so much blowing blowing shit up and it's a good movie it's not bad. Who's your definition of good? How'd you good? I mean my favorite movie is crank featuring Jason Statham so obviously crank is cool because it has it has like a stylistic choice like there's like a strong theme to it like it's pretty cohesive like Hobson. Shaw is like a vague. You remember that. It's part of the fast and furious franchise at the very end right. I forgot about that even other other than that. You're just kind of like what the fuck is this. Idris Elba's in and he. He crushes his character. That dude is great. Yeah he's a great actor. I mean the three of them in our solid. You know I I. I felt like I don't give the Rock and credit in terms of his acting. He's he's how you can see fucking act. Yeah like I. It's funny because those movies are not really movies. They're just like their term turn movies in that you're just there 'cause you're a fan of one of the people and you just like to see them do their thing Like people go to see that movie and they just like the rock and he gets the sale that Corny cheesy Shit. Because that's what they WANNA see. Yeah they're not. They're not super into the whole Hobson's Shah line line. Yeah they don't give a fuck about whatever they're just like the rock be huge semi Witty Shit. This pump to watch the Rock be real monthly. Take for two hours this morning. I'm yeah I'm didn't pump. Further rocks doubts. It'd be honest pet fucker. He he is massive dog stupid. Does the scene with Kevin Hart that is actually pretty funny because when knowing that they have that relationship. I'm just seeing how that pans out pretty amusing pursued I did I did fucking Crawford today Vegan into its yeah Vegan now and Part of the cross fit kalt now. I'm really believing it honor percent. It's so it was. It was pretty wild man. It was definitely hard. AG- use yours here. Should Cross fit like online everyone rips on cross if people. It's just like a workout class. That's less produced. Oh so it's just like it's just write some shit on a whiteboard there. All right do that and you're like all right now. Let's do it folks got it got and then I do that. Another another is Kinda funny yesterday. I'm at the gym. And and I climb onto the stairmaster. And I'm putting in one like my air pods and I put one in and I and I like kind of A slip on the other one and it falls on the step and just falls inside the stairmaster. Oh I was like Oh God God damn it was the most low key mistake I just oh fuck. There goes that tied to go down to maintenance attendance and get a guy to come up and open the fucking stairmaster grit get my fucking Airbud. I felt like such an asshole. Uh imagining that image. Like you standing there and everyone's like what the fuck is going on the stairmaster opening a fucking basement trap door and then he just pulls out this tiny little white ear bites thing and he goes. These are expensive. Don't WanNa lose these and I was like Dude and everyone on that floor is looking at me like like what a fucking Dick Dude. It's good good. Then you look at it like examined it and you like motion back to him. I could you assure wipes it down that good. Yeah that's perfect. Great Little Dust on there. You might get in that. Thanks so much maintenance boy thanks buddy thanks bye sheet the hard work there buddy a regular in Canada and America. That's offensive Marica Bitch. None no no but I mean like I'm just saying like Canadians will do that. Thanks but yeah yeah yeah. It's different exit but but uh-huh thanks buddy looking Helmand and Happy New Year. 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People compared to the movie three hundred. We sent over Manhattan too much chicken on the bone. It's good. Can't wait to see him. LeBron James era has begun. Come on now fun to watch. Did not watch it last night. You missed the longest winner. Take all game in the history of major league baseball comes Rockies nationally, wildcard and early on cow feeling was the story. He was dealing allowed just three hits through six. That was Daniel Murphy with a run around and the seven with a blast to Trevor story. ESPN access will show you. That story makes us in sectional stop two outs in the inning, and that's going to be all for freely. Here comes butt-black. He's making a pitching change. Murphy would be the last batter free would face out of out of beano independent with two men out. Thomas Stella is the hitter. I should say that amount of doing the pitching. Excuse me that were first and second looks like they're out of the inning, but hold on looks can be deceiving, watch, drew, tears, glove, getting in the way that catcher interference. Thrilling can't believe it. So here we go, Jason Heyward pinch hitting with the bases, loaded and opportunity to be the hero for Chicago. Could he do it? You cannot. Out of, you know, gets Hayward swinging. He's out of the jam to the eighth. We go bottom of eight hobby buyers at the blade runners at second to men out by it. Span back up the middle. Terrence Gore's is gonna call around the score, the cubs, tie the game at one by as safely into second. He's fired up. Wrigley is fired up. We're going extra innings last night on the north side of Chicago. For the eleventh we go. And it's Wilson contrary to the plate with Reuters at first and second. This could be to accept it isn't because there's hugging going on in the infield on auto and by get tied up. Next thing, you know, we got a hug from hobby, bias bug blacks, hold everything here. Interference should be called. We could've turned to the call on the field, ultimately stands to two outs for the Rockies. And that brings up Victor, Karen, teeny pinch hitting with a chance to in the game winning, but he can't do it nice stab at first and we have more extra baseball top thirteen still won all two men out Rockies over the last seventeen with runners on base Harare far up, make it one for eighteen Rockies runners at the corners now. And that brings up Tony Walters who hadn't had a hidden a game since September ten fifteen overs last nine games of the regular season, but he'll always remembered that one that lives in the go ahead run walking's a two one lead. And so we go. Bottom of thirteenth comes desperation time Terron score. Leading off the inning. Again, Scott over. One man down for Colorado. I'll be biased. Next buyers. Baya's down the Rockies are one out away. The cubs can only look on helplessly from the dugout and helpless. They would be Albert l. Maura is their last gas and down. He goes, the cubs are done Rockies winter two one. In thirteen innings. They advanced to the National League division series and for the second consecutive night celebration at Wrigley field at the Cup, not involved. You know the mood of the bench, we didn't give up. We have wears on a SIEM. We've would make comeback wins all time this year. You know something that wasn't nude us. So we're used to coming back here in a win win for us in the Rockies who's going to keep on doing. This is a great one. I think this is a, this is a classic. I think this will go down as you know, a major league baseball, classic exciting game, what an atmosphere. Those close reme- my heart, my heart k. handle that. We need to like we win some games by lot. We like ourselves against anybody, you know, no matter who it is and we feel like we can beat anybody. So you know, we'll show up Thursday ready to play. Or what are your the Colorado Rockies have had in that will continue meanwhile, for the cubs. There's the headline in the Chicago Tribune this morning. The season is over on the north side. They woke up Friday morning with the best record in the National League. They go to sleep Tuesday night with their season over Anthony Rizzo down. Sucks. It sucks. It sucks. Losing this early. It's been awhile since we've done that. But then on the other side, you congratulate the Rockies. You gotta tip your head to the opponent. I mean, you go thirteen innings night against a really good team and we come out on the short in the stick, but. I feel like we, we should have won that game. You know. That's the unfortunate part about this wildcard game. But at the same time, that was, that's what makes us while car game. So so unique. I think writ is a wonderful word that describes his group and it also I've talked about the the heart even couple of years ago. We won the World Series and don't forget the heartbeat. I think at the heartbeat within this group is very prominent and as a manager, that's probably the thing I'm most proud of. Not prominent were the bats for the cubs who played twenty two innings in their own ballpark. In the last two days in critical games and scored a total of two runs. They were let down, especially by the bottom of the order, their bottom for hitters. What over fifteen with a half dozen strikeouts this game, nine of those outs came with runners on base and obviously so many of our ESPN colleagues were there last night in Chicago is the game was on ESPN BUSTER only among them, and he joins us now for a quick moment here on the phone BUSTER, how would you put a new words? What happened to the cubs really over the last two days greenie, they were shell themselves at the end of a brutal schedule at the end of the season, the last forty three days they were scheduled to be at the ballpark there at the ballpark for forty two days in the only day that they weren't. They arrived back in Chicago and a six AM flight from Arizona said injuries us, Kris, Bryant just wasn't the same with that left shoulder injury that he's been nursing. They bullpens been banged up. They look complete. Early guest as we went through this last days now obviously you can spin this thing in a variety of different ways. They were Pappa game away if you will, from having the best record in the National League. And instead their season is over here before the rest of the playoffs. Even begin, how does Joe Madden's future look with the cubs there? I know there are a lot of cubs fans that do not love the way he manages the team. I know the players love him. How would you describe his future with the cubs right now? Uncertain. Look, I think there is definitely going to be a conversation about his status he's contract is run through the end of next season. I, if his side possibly brings up the extension, you wonder what the response would be from the cubs organization greedy. It's amazing to me in the last two weeks as we come down the stretch, every person you talk to with other teams about the cubs. It's the first thing they bring up. What are the cubs going to do with Joe mad and what are the cubs gonna do with Joe mad? They won the World Series in two thousand sixteen. But as you know, this is. In organization with high expectations. It'll be interesting to see what that conversation is. Like is it happens. He got a lot of criticism even when they won the World Series that year, I bustard travel safely. Thank you for jumping on here for a few minutes early this morning, and we'll check in with you again tomorrow after the American League game tonight we'll have much more on the cubs and the Rockies as our morning continues revile. Some football Julian Edelman is back returning to the patriots this week after a four game suspension for violating the NFL's PD policy, no word yet if he'll be on the field Thursday night when the patriots take on the colts end to no one surprise. Bill Belichick is being very Bella chicken as he discusses it. So let's bring in NFL insider. Dan Grazziano who joins us Now, Dan, what are you hearing about the patriots plans for Eshelman as they play again tomorrow night against Indy. My understanding is that he does factor into their plans for tomorrow night against Indy. Now you're right. Bela check in the patriots traditionally pretty inscrutable on these kinds of things. But element is a guy who they believe. Obviously knows the offense perfectly well has been keeping himself in shape. They had all through camp and all through the preseason. So they really feel like this is a guy that can step in and help them, especially on third downs where they've struggled a little bit this year only converting about forty percent of those. They want that number to come up and with rob gronkowski nursing, an ankle injury, he might not play on Thursday. And even if he does play, he could be limited. So adamant is someone who can step in and help them at least in that third down role right away. Even though he hasn't played a football game that counts, sincere bowl, fifty one twenty months ago at a remarkable. It's been a very long time, but they need him and yet gronk limited these Thursday turnarounds atop Dan stay there. We're going to get back to you in a few minutes with other NFL news. But I happen to have a former patriots sitting next to me. So let's talk about this. He would. I think everyone was impressed with the way they bounce back after a couple of losses to shellac Miami last week. Now, with the return of Ataman and whatever it is the Josh Gordon is going to be. Would you describe the patriots as being kind of right where they would expect to be at this point? Absolutely. Because when when everyone talks about the patriots, I no one else would the organization we always talked about October, especially in November. We want to be playing our best football and we can talk about the patriots right now. Physically Julieta men was a key piece of missing. He's the guy that moves the chains on Thursday on the yards after the catch. He's the guy that keeps keeps the office on the field. So now you have him back. You got Josh Gordon, who you're implementing into the office will be able to stretch to field down down the field of Chris HOGAN will go back to his normal role. Now you're starting to see this patriots office kind of get back into their group. You know, it's interesting. You were saying to me this morning and the meeting, sometimes the patriots views September almost as an extended career season, and we've seen that in recent years. So you think. Thing is fun. Yeah, I think everything is good. There's been so many times where the the patriots several law since September. I'm like, oh, is this the demise at patriot? And it's like, no. We literally have to wait until October November to see what this patriots team lockout AFC. They got all of the bases covered. Don't sleep on Sony, Michelle last week. Okay. He play where you're going to get, Josh Gordon bag adamant back, but it also shows us how we don't care about PD's NFL. Right? Because it's a violent sport in baseball. We basically wanted to sort of hang these guys and football. All we ask is well how soon till he has. Scheduled acne and everything else. Okay, so we got baseball. We got football and all. Yeah, we have a fellow by the name of the Brown. Four twenty three, six. Turnovers, great atmosphere was amazing. To give them a good show all the way down to the last possession. Jalen LeBron James in his home uniform and his new home arena last night for the first time, all the Laker vans or out with the jerseys, and they've all got the cell phones. And here's the first moment that they were all waiting to see. It's gonna take me a second to get used to see in the Brown and purple and goal, but that's the vast improvement in his game. Right. Did a confidence to pull up from three in transition. Obviously, the fans are there to see the ball, the ball Jalen hill child. So wrong game for crying out loud LeBron James play fifteen minutes in this game as he did it in their first preseason game, which was on the road. So they're getting giving the fans of chance to see him a little bit here and playing a little bit with teammates. And yeah, a lot of different sort of optional, I guess, in these preseason games. Absolutely. This is like a high pay scrimmage game. Don't wanna get anybody into Josh patchy play. Well, he's going to get overshadowed clearly, Brian, James. This is a great hustle play Barbara, John Rondo the dime give up a good past to get a great Lael for what it's worth. The nuggets win it by two, not worth anything. LeBron thirteen points five out of six from the floor in fifteen minutes of action. But you know, it was interesting because there's been all this talk about like we'll Laker fans fully accept LeBron because there's so many of them still love Kobe and on the. Day that LeBron places first game staple center somehow Kobe Bryant still managed to steal the show, at least. Everybody see this. Let's go back to two thousand ten because one of the legendary figures a legendary images of Kobe Bryant's entire career is Matt Barnes. Throwing the ball faking it at his face and it not him not even flinching, but now for the first time yesterday people get to see maybe it isn't exactly what we thought. What did you make of this? Well, I was actually watching this game and they got tangled up a couple of times during the game and sold the energy. And the gravity of that moment was huge because if you notice Kobe garden inbound, but he don't have his hands up. That's normally what you wanna got to be doing defensively mad bars. He's taken the ball out. You want him to be surveying the floor, but he wanna to make sure that he threw a little jab at Colby in basketball. Normally by taking the ball, I like Gimmie three feet, don't violate my personal space dog. So that's kind of a Kobe's door before Matt bars. It was a moment that Koby epic. We didn't flinch ninety. Nine point. Nine percent of us would have flinched even though it wasn't directly in his and I tell you something. I feel like I just found out that superman can't fly. Like yesterday. I've always said that's not even a moment of a human being, right? I mean, that's where the Black Mamba became the Black Mamba like, oh my God, you throw the ball in his face. He doesn't even move. Now when I see that it wasn't really in his face, I feel I don't know. I feel let down. I was felt like, oh my goodness. How did this happen to me? So the moment is, is going not what we thought it was right. I'm not knocking Kobe. He was where he was, but it was a moment that just sort of felt like it meant something that now does feel on this. I promise I play so much basketball. This is a moment. The fans immediate clearly have overrated because of the parties involved that happens hundreds of times and people don't have a reaction. And yet that one was supposed to be good. Talked about the impact Julian element will have on the patriots. Now it's time to answer the important question. How will it affect Damien? Woody power, rankings. We will look at those and is major league baseball. Finally, ready to shed the perception that they're unwritten rules. Take the fun out of the game. They release something on social media yesterday that stunned and delighted me, we will show it to you next. Get up is brought to you by Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. All right. We are back with our NFL insider. Dan, Grazziano, Dan, you're with us a few minutes ago. We talked about how Julian Edelman is not coming back from before game suspension. He's not the only player coming back this week. Take me through a few of those. It green in New Orleans running back Mark Ingram returns from his suspension this week. Now, Alvin Kamara has been tearing up the league at running back for the saints. But if you remember last year they both had prominent roles and the expectation is that that will continue Ingram was fifth in rushing last year in the league and fourth in yards per carry, the saints believe their offense works. It's best when they're both available. And on the field Ingram will have a major role upon his return in Cincinnati. Controversial linebacker von has birthed returns from his four game suspension. This week, Cincinnati is a team that functions better on defense when Burfoot is out there. They're excited to have him back. Linebacker has been a particular point of trouble for them so far this year as they are twenty nine in total defense, he will give them a spark if he can stay on the field and interested to see what Indianapolis does tomorrow night with running back Robert turban coming off this suspension, you know, here's a guy that could give them a boost in a run game that really hasn't gotten anything. Going so far this year ending looking for answers and that run game. You wonder how much they'll be able to use them on a short week, but going forward, don't be surprised if that's a player for whom the colts have a significant role in mind for their offense. Nine, I wanna stay also in the AFC. Now with the Steelers, we've talked a lot about levian bell. We know now he plans to report during their by which is week seven. How do you view that affecting what the Steelers might do with him? There's the trade talks still on the table where where does all of that stand right now? Steelers host the falcons Sunday. The Steelers are still open to the idea of trading levian bell. If they get a good enough offer, which to this point they have not. Now it's interesting he now everybody now knows when he'll come back. So interested teams know that could affect what they're willing to offer the Steelers. No, that could affect whether they're willing to hold off and wait. But the next two games for the Steelers, you mentioned the falcons and their at Cincinnati. The Steelers are one, two and one and could lose both of those games if they're sitting there at one, four and one when Levy on bell decides to come back from his holdout that could affect their decision. That's going to be about a week before the trade deadline. And if they feel like they're a season that's in trouble, they might decide that it's better off that they trade him as opposed to losing him in free agency next year, which they inevitably would become a complete mess here. And obviously he has his vision of the way this thing is going to go. If he decides to sign the tender, they have no option. But to bring him in though, right that whether they can trade them or not as a separate conversation, but they can't say too. Him, you know what? We've changed our mind. We're not interested anymore. No. I mean they could. They could make him in active for the games if they don't wanna use them that causes a fight. And would result in a grievance with the players union all at once he signs the tender? Yeah, he's on the team, but the other thing that happens once he signs tender as they can trade it. So if they want to trade it, if they get a good offer before he signs the tender and they want to trade him, they're going to have to go to him and ask him if this trade is okay. This destination is okay because they cannot trade him until he signs that tender. All right. Thank Roseana with the very latest on that. We'll keep an eye on at all. Thank you very much. It's a really interesting situation that we have there with levian bell because he makes a good point. They could be done by the time he thinks he's coming back. They could be sitting at one, four and one. Let me bring it to the table here quickly before we get to the back to the baseball for a second because that really does play into all of this. Atlanta is a desperate team with a great offense against that bad defense internet, he is playing great. If the Steelers are one, four and one at their by in Levy on says, hey guys, good news. I'm back. Right now they seriously may consider trading him and I wouldn't blame them for doing it. He'd be happy. I'm pretty sure because I said all summer, the biggest story going into this year, this being under reported that this is Levy on bales final year with the Pittsburgh Steeler. Right? So if they are one four one, and he returns is going to be a unique dynamic for sure. Speaking of unique before I sat down to watch the baseball game last night in Chicago, I saw on social media opposed that was posted by MLB itself, major league baseball posted this, taking a stand on what is for them a relatively controversial issue. Watch this. Descent, rules are rules. Stop and stare. Thirty feet into the air. Don't flip your back. Speak. Earned that right. They call them. Celebrating keeps you hit down. Immature. The said at all. Tired of something in baseball. No more talk. Let the kids play. Are you kidding me? Absolutely flabbergasted when I saw that that's not me because clear that's not a Nike ad and under armor ad. That is major league baseball itself as a promotion for its postseason saying, let's flip bats, let's get fired up. Let's be firing, show emotion out there which ones contrary to WTO a hundred and fifty years of baseball tradition and unwritten rule and I for one absolutely loved it and don't sleep on the person. They chose to do it cords. Zunyi from era and people thought it was a big deal because he wars hat back, correct. Okay. And also, I'm surprised. I'm not surprised that baseball chose to do this on social media because they're the slowest of professional sports in actually catching up to using because they don't share clips. So I'm just happy for baseball. It's going to be a good thing to see players be able to show some flair some personality they allow now players in the NFL. Two touchdown celebrates took a stand, absolutely loved it. We're going to run here. We've got a million things still come in. Away, including through a quarter of the NFL season. The Rams and chiefs emerged exciting teams in the league where does d- what have them in his power rankings. We shall see and more baseball. The Rockies writing I after winning the wildcard. Can they keep that momentum rolling? We've got the answer next. This is get up on ESPN Cambridge, junior plant, fast pitch tennis ball. Smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel, so I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor switch to Joel check, OJ dot com. Slash sports. If you don't smoke or vape, don't start warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine addictive chemical. Back on get up and after a thrilling marathon of a baseball game last night, the Chicago Cubs season comes to an end at the hands of the upstart Colorado Rockies who advance out of the wild card game with a thrilling thirteen inning win. Here's our baseball tonight. Crew on the Rockies chances going forward, the general consensus is that the dodgers probably have the best chance to go to the World Series from the National League. Then there are the brewers, but now because they won, you have to ask, can the Rockies do at? Can they do that? I think the Rockies can do in the reason why this is one of the greatest teams I've ever seen. They went ten rounds in the NL west with the LA dodgers. They got knocked down, but they came back the next day and beat the Chicago Cubs in their home, ballpark and Wrigley field. This team shows a lot of character, right? And we saw their infield defense tonight rates was really good and has been all year. We know they can hit the ball out of the ballpark with Trevor story Nolan air or not, and more, but maybe most important. They have Kyle Freeland who we discovered. Again, tonight is an ace and their bullpen from September. One on has been really good. Just like it was great tonight. Those three os they threw tonight were terrific. And that's really important through book in September. Greeny you take a look at it be bullpens one into Milwaukee, Colorado starting staffs ERA nearly the same runs per game brewers, Rockies nearly the same in September. They were two of the best teams in the National League. That's Tim kurkin Mark to Shera happen to get up with your granny. Raby. Thank you very much guys. Thank you so much for doing that. And you know, a lot of people will count the Rockies out in this series because fatigue, but actually history is on their side. The previous two teams to win the wild card game in extra innings went on to win their next series of Lou did it in sixteen the wilted in fourteen Kansas City. Of course, advanced all the way to the World Series get to some football here yesterday, ESPN dot com. Updated its weekly power rankings. There wasn't a lot of change at the top, the Jags and saints each moved up a spot, the patriots broke into the top five. So with that thought in mind, as we bring it out here, we want to do something called big rankings, tiny helmets, and there's no better way to do that. Then with variety of these little tiny football helmets and the largest man, I know and that, of course, is Damian what he so what I want you to give us your power rankings, the five best teams. And I want you to illustrate them by using the smallest football helmets that we have ever seen. Yeah, I definitely we definitely do that. So at number five, we're going to go with the. New England, Patriots, right? Lets you could call. You can call me a homo hiking head to to to listen. You get Julie element bag, which is a huge part of the pages office. We saw what they did to the Miami Dolphins. They obliterated Miami Dolphins with three. Three and old come into the game while Cousy. This is the point of season. This team is going to. It's going to give role in the rest of the zero argument with that. I would favor them against anyone that you are not going to have on this list. Show me a little tiny helmet for number four. So number four with to go the Baltimore. Aw, we can't have. We got the Baltimore Ravens, listen Baltimore. We always talk about the Baltimore, Ravens defend, but office their own pace to have the best office in the history of the organization. So you combine those two Baltimore is going to be very scary team in AFC team. That's not afraid of Foxborough. All right. Let's see if he can do dainty a little better here with number three. Okay. Number three, tiny helmet. We got the kitty. That tax Bill was right. The Jacksonville Jaguars listen to Jacksonville jazz, what they lead the league in total beef is scoring defense and listen. If Blake Bortles balling, I mean how many, how many teams won a play against the Jacksonville, Jaguars understanding in a postseason into always bowling, which obviously is the big question about that is that is true. But if if he's showing out that's a scary team, no argument. All right. Show me a tiny helmet for number two. Number two. Number two. You feel the need to kiss the Kansas City one because muddle Pat Mahomes happy that you talk about to me the league MVP. I know we all knew quarter way through, you know you talking about the hottest quarterback in the National Football League right now. I know they have some issues on defense, but when you talk about Pat Mahal's he has. He's the best QBR in the history of ESPN doing QB. So that gives you a sense of how dominant this guy has been. All right, so we have got an MCSE AFC AFC I have a feeling that it's going to be an NFC helmet. Number one. I don't think there's any question. Only on the high. You all kiss you kiss it short, right? So we got number one, the Los Angeles Rams, right. Listen, we all know about all the pieces on on defense. You know, Aaron, Donald, sue, and those board, but greenie, they have four guys four guys to have three hundred dollars in from scrimmage on office. Now that's utterly ridiculous right now with Sean McVay call being a play call. This team to me is the clear number one team. I will know if there's a. There's a number one number two team that's closer to way these teams playing each other on Monday night football, November. I'm told you have one team, you wanna crush. She wanted smash here Manolis disappointing. This team. And this team is a Pittsburgh Steelers where we came into the season thinking that, oh, head of this prolific office. They're going to have you know the triple bees out there, bowling and stuff like that, but it's just been a bunch of nonsense with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Are they gonna? Do. Yeah. Green out even know most strength out here. See what happened. This is what happens when you get a bit like me, crushing small helmets like that. I'm not gonna lie, whatever we were hoping to get out of that. That was better. That was even. Thank you very much. We will have more than. Because he. Just breaking things. Getting that information not readily available, some faith, it's business as usual, be real here. Okay. I'm still recovering from what is that just happened? We're going from one extreme to the other from the enormous Damian what he to pull finebaum who has delightful to have with us here. Good morning. Paul. And we actually have a little fun to have with you as well. Because last week we created a new feature here on the show called Coleman idiot because throughout my twenty five years on the now, many people have been calling me that any. But like most geniuses, I will not be fully recognized until long after my time. So I'm going to make a statement that I think are going to disagree with Anglesey safe. You call me an idiot. HERE IS NUMBER one. Call me an idiot, but Ella Bama has gotten to a point now where they are so good. It is actually boring. I find myself on interested in watching their games. They're so much better than everybody else. It's almost like the Golden State Warriors. You might as well just not bother playing the rest of the college football season because no one can play with them. Call me an idiot greenie. You're an idiot. Okay. Come on what's wrong with perfection. Go down the streets museum of modern art. Look at Van Gogh's starry night and you go, I don't wanna look at anything else to perfect. It's to bore. You know, it's not Ella. Bama is the personification of what everyone strives to be in only you over Hugh greenie would be bored by that. Well, see, starry night is not competing with the Mona. Number two in in their in their roles. Let me give you the next one call main idiot, but the SEC is a mortal lock to get to teams into the college football, playoff this season, a mortal lock, and it's not inconceivable to me, they would deserve sitting where I live. I'm going to whisper it. You're an idiot. How Nydia on this one, there are new guarantees. The second team is going to get in if Notre Dame runs the table, Ohio State runs the table, Oklahoma runs today. We have serious problems in Georgia is not playing very well. Right now. I know they're undefeated. They had big games coming up especially next week when they go to Baton Rouge. They have Florida later in the month. They have Auburn, they'll ultimately see Alabama. I'm not certain they're going to make it. All right. Let me give you one more here and I, I wonder what people will think because I think this is the opposite of what most people would have expected for me, but call me an idiot. I think people are overreacting to JIMBO grabbing the players face mask and the game this past weekend. I'm not suggesting it was a great look, but I think people are acting as though he put the kids safety in jeopardy as it was something that was really completely out of bounds. Did I love it? No. Do I think it is worth the amount of attention? I feel like it has received. I do not call earn idiot. Tell me why? Well, first of all, I don't think it's a good look. It's a terrible look. It's two thousand eighteen. You know that this year in football forever. This though nowadays, I mean, you just don't need to put your hands on a player in full view of the world. I just don't like it greedy. No, it's not. It's not the end of his career. He's a great coach, but for you to go soft on that, I think people are acting like this Woody Hayes circa twenty eighteen. It's nothing of the kind is getting the kids attention again. Was it the best way to do it? No, but was this some sort of horrible mortal offense that it's going to somehow doom his program in recruiting? This is what I'm reading on social media. I think people are out of double Espresso. I'm going to do a double idiot. Okay. All right. That's it. You know way can talk you into them. With you? All right. I'm disappointed with John. We'll get him for a little bit more as we continue. And by the way we got great college football coming your way as well here as always Saturday on ABC the top twenty five match up in Blacksburg got number six. Notre Dame taking on number twenty four, Virginia Tech, huge game eighty stern on ABC and it's live on the ESPN app. So you can watch from anywhere. Number twenty three, six. Great atmosphere was amazing. Give them good show, which we did all the way down to the last session. Oh, on a very busy morning, we got NBA action on the floor last night to run through Jalen. Let's run the floor little. It starts with LeBron making his staple center debut play fifteen minutes. Thirteen point, five of six shooting forever. Any that is worth. How do you think the Broncos fitting in with the new team from what you're seeing us far when you have LeBron James green is not about him fitting in. It's the other way around and we're going to see LeBron play a well rounded basketball game efficient. You see him trying to the bucket right here at transition. Trying to figure out his new teammates getting rebounds, just running a floor and planned quality basketball. We interested in how to integrate Lonzo ball when he returned. So he obviously is going to be fine. Let me get to the next one here because here's another player on a new team and it's Carmelo Anthony camello. Anthony is known for the long to he's on the Houston Rockets who never take two of any kind, and he actually apologizes to his teammates. Watch this little pump fake their shoots. Long to and then apologizing to his team's bench. What do you think of that that is winning is fun. Truthfully, he's going to do that more throughout the basketball season with players close out at him. One one bounce. That's why he wanted a greatest scores in the history of the game. The Houston Rockets are all of the analytics, threes, three throws layoffs are Daryl Morey. We'll tell you that's the worst shot. All right. I mean that it is that we're shot in basketball in theory is the worst vascular ball, but that's another subject for Carmelo. Anthony is taking it. Maybe it is always good to put pressure on a deep. How about GR Smith? Here's the deal. Okay. By now you've probably seen this social media this tattoo that says supreme. It's very noticeable. The NBA says that he can't have it. He's gonna have to cover it with a sleeve when he plays or he's going to get fine. This is the unique slippery slope. Here's why. Because the last time I checked multiple NBA players have tattoos and we have not been at liberty to try to question why they have and or should they cover. Them up this Alan Iverson, but this one is obviously different. Right? And this is it's an advertisement. Is advertisement but everything that you put on yourself as a tattoo? Guess what is an advertisement? I understand why they feel this one's a little different. We can debate we go because they're not getting paid from. Do all that is the reason. Here's why against the rapid with the raptors yesterday scored seventeen points, five rebounds, how good are the rafters right now is under gets comfortable with the estimate defect Toronto Raptors not the Boston Celtics, not the Philadelphia seventy Sixers, what the number one seed in the Eastern Conference Coalinga looked to rip it. He looked fish. It still lumber in the little bit plays like that. He would normally draw to the bucket slam it, but I'll tell you what he's going to be terrific plant with them to not Leonard as part of a star studded free agent class next summer. That will also include, of course, the great Kevin Durant knows the questions are coming and he's leaning experience from leaving the thunder to help him get through it this around and it was. Asked about how he plans to handle that free agency. And here's what he told ESPN quote, he plans to just be honest. I was honest with my decision, but just like outwardly people ask me about it. Don't be ashamed to talk about why decided to move teams and switch teams because it's not the end of the world. I didn't do anything against the law. You know what I'm saying? That's what I thought happened the first time is he telling us now that he's planning on changing teams next summer. I don't think that's what he's saying. I just think that he understands it as it has to be different. And he takes a lot of queues whether he realizes it enough how LeBron James towns things, and you notice when the brand initially left Cleveland, the decision and all of that stuff. When he left this time, he didn't do that. So Kevin Durant when he left. Okay. See to drafted and Seattle plate in. Okay, see, got a chance to t mobile Russell Westbrook. You've thought that that would be a situation that he probably was staying forever. Then all of a sudden of routes himself to the team that just eliminated them from the playoff. Right. So that was a unique Dynamique d I n -ticipant he's going to be with the warriors for the foreseeable future. Listen, I think it will. The opposite. In this case, all the criticism he got was because of the uniqueness of the circumstance as you described. If he leaves for any team, I genuinely think people will be happy to see him going somewhere else and that four some broken up. I don't think so because he got the best of both worlds. He got a chance to win the most important trophy. That's the championship and the best individual trophy finals. MVP back debate. I don't think he lied. I will be fascinated to see if he goes anywhere. We are just getting started here on, get up on ESPN still to come more football. The Steelers have to be disappointed to be off to a one to one start. Where do they rank on Damian what he's list of the top five, this appointments and the league. So far we ready crushed their helmet. So I have a feeling we know are going with that. All right tonight. Sportscenter from Yankee Stadium at six eastern with Kevin Raby with the pressure on the Yankees breaking down Notre Dame and LSU win on the road this weekend and inside UFC two Twenty-nine sportscenter six eastern on ESPN and the ESPN app. We're back over here and what have you have no helmets for you? This time they'll helmets didn't hear this segment because we talk a lot about the best things in the NFL. I wanna see you top top-five disappointments to this point in the NFL season. We'll do it fundamentalist. I'll number five is Minnesota Vikings. We're talking about team that was in the NFC game last year, particularly on the defense. They've always heavily reliant twenty third twenty. Third, fourth, pass defense. Now it would help stop mess up Lomborg a wide receivers. I did against the law. Caused a little bit, but the defense needs to pick it up question. We're still early enough in the season that one game can skew that number face, the Rams the Rams went crazy. The Viking defense is going to get better going to get better, but that you also remember that embarrassing loss against the Buffalo Bills l. at you. That doesn't get hats. Right, four. How about the falcons? So yeah, we got. We got the Atlanta Falcons, listen, they've been decimated on on defense, but you talking about team that's basically the bottom of league defensively. They have all the on off of the sitting at one in three. This is the team with all the firepower second year. Over the coming back, you would think that this would be one team that's going to contend in the NFC one in three Ceylan. They've lead in the fourth quarter of every game. They've played this year and they're one of the defense has been a disappointment, but I know you love Calvin, really. He's fallen. Oh, he's both. There's no question about it. Could you got Julio out there and he's going to get one on one covers a SuperBowl caliber offense. They can't stop anybody there in Pittsburgh this week. Number three. This one I agree with completely. Yeah. I mean you talking about the New York football giants team that basically put all their chips in. They all in the twenty four twenty fifth league in office. You're talking about team saquon Barkley Ota Beckham, junior, you know, early Scheffer shepherd Ingram, and you can't get anything office with specially down field. How did bin costing changed? GM coach everything, but it's been one cost that's the quarterback needs to play. I'm shocked. Odeal Beckham does not have a touchdown so far this year money you spend on that on that wide receiver. You can't imagine how he feels. Number two. Number two, we got the, we got the Houston Texas. Now that was actually my my pick to represent the AFC and the Super Bowl. Listen, they got all star caliber guys on defense office. They can't predict can't protect a, they can protect the soul out there. A lot is a trophy. Bill O'Brien is going to have the scheme things up offensively to get Shawn Watson, going into more. This team has been a major disappoint. They should be winless react. The colts just handed them we did. They lay in their overtime game. Yeah, I agree with you and Jalen you pick them? I think too. I did them in Iran, and they have looked at. I agree with you right now. All things considered team total. They're the worst disappointment. In this view, they get their office of lying together to protect shown. I don't think so. I'm saying, this is what this is going to be like the guy who picture you see up there on the screen may not be there whether you rest of the season and at number one number one, we got. We got the Pittsburgh Steelers talking about team that you know seem like perennial. They the patriots Steelers and they have all sorts of issues. Boy, no. Obviously, we talked about lady on bail beaten out reporting yet. You know, the defense is a c, they can't stop nose bleed. We just Antonio Brown to seem like this. So many issues going on with the Pittsburgh look at number one on this list and number four. They played show this week in Pittsburgh. This the loser of this game is in being who do you like in this game? I'm actually picking the Atlanta Falcons because I think the NFL on offense or more consistent. They can make a school. They can score more than than the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers could be in a position where they don't want Levy on back because they could be out of it. By the time he comes back, they could easily be sitting at one four and one still to come. Speaking of disappointments, the Chicago Cubs had every opportunity and now they're season is over for the second straight night. They had a front row seat to another team celebration, and now they got a million questions to answer. We'll start asking them as we continue that get on. ESPN.

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April 18, 2019: Shocking Sweeps

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April 18, 2019: Shocking Sweeps

"How good hockey in all Japan? Pro led by giant baba Mitchell. Hartman sour Toshiaki Kawada accurate highway all my favorites. Ready? Okay. Elliott deep breath. Yup. Bite down hard on your mouth guard as they say in MMA circles, this is a tough one. What happens with the Tampa Bay Lightning now and what happens with the Pittsburgh Penguins. Now, we'll hit pause on the penguins conversation. But to start the pod the biggest story in hockey this year. Columbus advances to the second round for the first time in that organization's history, and they do so by knocking off the presidents trophy winners. One of the best regular season teams. We've ever seen in the Tampa Bay Lightning. What? Now, let me answer your question with a question first of all because upset ever while. There was this plucky bunch of college kids in nights talking about professional is this the biggest player Hoff's for however. Yes. For hockey for shield people brought up Minnesota over Chicago and ninety one Mike Modano mentioned that on Twitter. You did had some people might Twitter feed mentioning Detroit losing to Edmonton in two thousand and three that was a sweep to. But Detroit was not the number one team in the league that year those losing to Anaheim Anaheim Fezzan three they lost Edmonton later. But even though that was a sweep Detroit was not the number one team in the league. I had some people mansion Montreal beating Boston in one thousand nine hundred seventy one Ken Dryden and Boston would win the Stanley Cup and seventy seventy two the following year. He'd win the Calder. But this to me was sweep and the biggest one ever because should never happen to a presence trophy winning team before the future. I think for Tampa. And pittsburgh. It's very different my senses. The penguins have been weighing. For some time. Now that this was going to be the end of the group that won the Stanley Cup back to back pas on the pens. I do wanna get there. But no, I'm just saying that okay? I think Tampa is different. Because my guess is they still see themselves in their window. Does Tampa have a Washington Capitals two thousand and ten vibe about them right now the team that was supposed to be the juggernaut the team that was supposed to be the wood Chipper for anyone that was gonna stand in their way until as Washington found out in two thousand and ten they met yorislav halack and Mike Cam Larry this time, they met Sergei Brodsky and insert player x here. The only problem with that. Exact comparison is the Tampa Bay has a Stanley Cup. Final berth two thousand fifteen they have to Eastern Conference finals trips. In addition to what this is. So I think you could make a real good argument that they were actually a head of. That Washington team in two thousand ten but what I see is is that what did the capitals do. They kept reloading with their star players. And they just said we're going to keep trying until we climb the mountain and eventually they did there are no guarantees. But of I'm Tampa. I'm identifying my best players, and I will continue to reload with them. I mean, I know trade kucherov. No, that's my point about Tampa has has been like, I know there's a lot of listen the nerves or close to the skin last night. Let a knee-jerk reactions ten Bay Lightning fans feel overwhelmed and there's a knee jerk. Oh, this isn't a good team. You gotta fire the coach and this needs to be redone, and you can't win with Stam coast and this guy vanished. And let's get rid of all of the I don't know if it's gonna come out by the time this podcast is done. But I think stamkos had a pretty significant shoulder injury. Now, I don't like to use injuries excuse. They got. Beat. They got beat fair and square. But I think there is something there, look, what are you gonna trade off you trade headman? No trade Vassil Ascii. No trade point. No, you're going to. No. So you're coming back again next year with the same guys. And you've got seraglio who looks like he's going to be a player Joseph who looks like he's going to be a player Gord who is a player. Now, the interesting one will be the defense because you're losing Girardi you're losing Kover near you losing strong woman. Now, you could decide to resign one. But I wonder I wonder if Tampa is going to be one of the teams that takes a long look at risk to line in from buffalo. Are they going to be able to with the salary structure? They have now because the window to win is still wide open for Tampa. But this comes coupled with a potential cap crunch. Yes. With the money that Raza's Bristolian makes and the money that all those players you just named already make and will make C B point and vassal Eski after next season up. There's gonna be a cap crunch coming up for the Tampa Bay Lightning unless there's money. Going out. And that means a contract. Heidi entertain the idea of wrestling, you're gonna well first of all in Buffalo's gonna want something for them. And the one thing is we talked about this in the last podcast. That wrist aligning doesn't exactly have fans out there among the analytics community, but it sounds like there's enough of a market for him building out there that they're going to be able to get something for him. He's a five point four million dollar player for what three more years three more years. Yeah. To twenty one twenty two. So you're going to get something for him because there's enough of a market. And you know, I think there's enough teams that see a young. What is he twenty three twenty four years old? Okay. So people will take a chance at that. No. If you're looking at Tampa, who's this going to cost you I keep coming back to Alex Cologne, and probably polite polite is that five point three until twenty twenty two. You know, you're probably gonna have to buy out Ryan Callahan. Who's got one year left? I believe one more year left. Yeah. So he may get bought out. Or traded with something. So you're looking at Callahan. You're looking at polite you're looking at cholorine. Having to is. They gotta pay circuit chef soon to right? Yes. Circuit Chev is up in two twenty twenty. I wonder that's what I'm saying. There's a cab crunch Cummings. Poser your moves though. First of all, I think Jillian breeze, blah. He's got time. He'll put thought into it. He won't make any knee jerk. Decisions hill, basically, call an organizational timeout, he'll tell everybody to take a deep breath. And that's what I would do to. And he'd say we're gonna meet again in a couple of weeks, and we're going to start talking everyone, come with your ideas. And we'll figure out where we're gonna go. But the big guys are all going to stay. And it's going to be those secondary guys who unfortunately are going to have to go when you look at the Tampa Bay Lightning team that have now accident in four games. Yes. And you look at what they did in the regular season. And how they were chasing the record books and how players like Vassilev ski. He's kept firing him back in there. Was it Tampa Bay Lightning team that and you mentioned potential injury. Stamkos. Did this look like a Tampa team? That was tired. No. I don't buy that. I don't buy it. Then what happened? John Cooper made his comments and Kelly Rudy echoed them on the broadcast on Tuesday night the night they lost that they simply weren't sharp. They hadn't played meaningful games. And the one thing. I absolutely do believe is that when you're Columbus, and you've been swimming for your life, not to drown. And then you get in. There's a certain relax sation that comes over you like a we made it now we can breathe to me. The most unbelievable thing about this. I'm not accepting tired from Tampa as an excuse. You know, stamkos being hurt and had been not being himself and being hurt that affected them, but they got beat. And the most amazing thing to me is Jeff this series could've been over in the first period in game one, you know, Bobrovsky was on the ropes. He was one punch away from being knocked out. I mean, it was the TV shot that you always dread to see if three nothing and the director cuts to corpus sallow on the bench. Not even looking at Twitter rally. He does not wanna go in there. Jerry Cheever's the towel over his head is recess getting lit up. I sit ler, and then this Gordon make it three one and the whole series changes. Nick Lino in with a truck. Scars mic. Fully no take to buries it in the breakaway and the blue jackets or now trailing by the score of three to one Tampa gut beat because they got beat Columbus four, check them and neutral zone them to death. That's what they did. And then Bobrovsky rediscovered the goalie. He had not been all year. No excuses. Columbus was full marks for the victory. There's still plenty of hockey to play in the first round. But right now to me v coaching move of the first round, I think we'll probably on the same page about this one the coaching move of the first route is after that first period where we all thought we're seeing corpus sallow John Tyrrell said, no, yeah. Prosecute goes back in. We're not giving them the hook that to me is the move of the series. I agree hundred percent hundred percent. And you know, one thing I'd like to say is didn't like the lightning sent out that tweet right after the game on everyone's disappointed, and you don't want. Here's houston. Look, I understand respecting your fans. I think it's very important. And we're in the new social media era where fans wanna hear that their opinions matter in teams are respectful of that. And I think that is good but minutes after that crushing defeat. I didn't think that tweet needed to be sent out. I don't think you have to apologize for losing. You know, the God beat it happens in sports. It was a team that had a phenomenal year when the playoffs started. They just weren't as sharp. But the God beat they competed. They lost whatever. I don't think you need to apologize for that. Maybe if you wanna do that a day after two days after on a teams to break up day whenever that's going to be. I don't think you need to send that out right after the series. Pittsburgh did a smaller version of the same thing. I don't agree with that. I don't think you have to apologize for losing unless you absolutely didn't even try. But I don't think you can say either Tampa or Pittsburgh that they didn't try. They just weren't as good big picture question. Yeah. Okay. First of all congrats to Columbus. That was your amazing. That was so much fun to watch thrilled for those fans at why does just happy for the organization top to bottom out a lot of wonderful people there. A lot of great fans there. Congratulations. Park that is this a good thing for hockey. Tampa going out like this. I don't think like that. I'm not asking you to subscribe to it a mask, you just to think about who the movie unforgiven years ago. Yeah. Do you? Remember Clinton's was line in that movie deserve has got nothing to do with it. Entertain this think about this play with the site. You don't even want to play with the idea that here's because ultimately what I'm getting to is what does the regular season mean? It's still hard to get into the playoffs. Sure. It is. You know, we've had the Commissioner this year on the podcast. And I'm sitting there telling him that I wanna see four more teams going to get lost. Because the regular season means something, you know, it's still hard to get into the playoffs. The railroad season. The H L is meaningful. What I think this tells us is. It reminds us is how different the regular season is from the playoffs when the curtain goes down on number eighty two and the curtain goes up on game number one the league changes. And I know people don't like that. I talked about this actually with someone the other day. There's only one solution for this problem. And that is to your the Cup after a game though, you shorten the regular season. I'm in favor of that. I mean, the ladder people are now talking about this. The minute. The players signed off on linkage. The have a hard time getting the players to agree to shrink schedule the because their salary their money is tied to the amount of games. Yes. From fans point of view. I mean, even from player safety point of view, you could make that argument as well. And fatigue etcetera. I just don't know the players would ever go for it, not the owners would ever go. I would go for. I think the owners would you think the owners would go for short? And sees if it meant that the players salaries will go down, I think they would consider if the NBA is considering it and a lot of the NBA thought on it why Adam silver who says there's too many players not playing in the regular season. There's he doesn't like the load management. Now, he is considering some NCAA tournaments to raise revenue and things like that. We know the players association in the NHL is talking about having the World Cup in twenty twenty one during the season now, so far the NHL owners don't want that. So it's all in the Goshi -ation right now. And we're talking out of our butts here. A little bit. Because we don't know if this would ever even come up in a conversation, but I was talking about this with one league executive this week. And I told them about what the NBA was thinking. And he said, can you send me the article, and I sent it to them and Adam silver said that they are considering shortening the regular season because there's too many players aren't playing, but the NHL is in theory. The NHL is interesting players way the NBA does it's going to happen though. You think the NHL is going down that road? I eventually I think there's too many teams investing in the sports science. Now, the one eighth of McCain is only gonna play sixty five games. Hope you're hope you the lucky ticket holders. But that's what's happening in the NBA. I get that. But you, and so you think the NHL is going down. The only reason the only I think teams are discussing it. Yes. The only reason that it hasn't happened is it's so hard to get in. It is hard to make it in the NHL. But the thing is the players, it's obvious. Now, the players themselves you watch what they do. Now in the postseason. It's not the same. It's not the same league. There's nobody who can listen to this podcast can tell me the NHL regular season is the same a league the shell in the playoffs and part of it is the refereeing standards do change. But part of it is the players change. They change what they're willing to do the games or a lot meaner. There are a lot nastier. There's so much dirtier on each other. Of course is inevitable because you're not playing different teams every night you playing the same. But I think all happen natural put your body on the line in the playoffs more than you will in the regular season. Why of course because middle of January beginning of February are you blocking like, it's your your mitchum shot. You one of the playoffs. You don't think that way at that time you look back, and you say, wow, if only wouldn't have surrendered that goal or this to game losing shoot turned into a four game losing streak. And if it wasn't we'd be in the playoffs. But it is an interesting point because I don't know the Michener blocks those two shots on David posture. Knock at the end of January, right? But here's the thing. Just to go back to your initial question. I don't like the is this a good thing because to me that sheets Columbus, and that's why I with not taking anything where you are. I'm just saying play with Jeff Merrick hates Columbus people in Ohio, Geoff, Merrick hates Columbus. Let him know what area code four one six. I don't like that. Like to me if you win four out of seven in the playoffs. You earn it? Yeah. Yeah, there's flukes. And there's upsets, but they earn this win. Nobody flukes into or doesn't deserve a four. Nothing win over a team that won sixty two games of the regular season. I've seen some arguments. And I I saw you tweeted them out about is this a good thing. I'm so against that they earned it. They want it. They got it. And I won't question. Whether or not it's good for the NHL 'cause eight I think it is look at all the interests that was created by this. Now, I want more seven game series. I don't like sweeps, but to me at the end of the day, they should get full credit and full value for the victory, and it shouldn't come down to is this good for the HR. And let me ask you another question cute. And this is kind of the funny thing to me about all this is we were talking last time Keith Yandell saying you should get to be able to pick your opponent. You gotta think they're probably would have picked. Columbus would Tampa pit Columbus. And how would they have lived that down? That would add it to worse another layer of this fed tastic, by the way, what was Panara and doing with kucherov. What was that with the high hand? And he wasn't kucherov didn't punch him in the face like kucherov. And I say this with all due respect. I like this about his makeup. He is one surly looking guy all the time. And I couldn't believe that. Like if it was me. By lost like that. And the guy was trying to high five me from the other team, so Tampa stay the course is the same true of the Pittsburgh Penguins. That question answered next thirty one thoughts brought to you by the next generation GMC Sierra denied. You have got the tip your hat. Blue loud. Morello Barrick trucks. Plea Lambert, the coaching staff that your calendars and these players who have really bought in. Do a team system. The different way of doing things to help themselves in Boyle boy than it ever. Not only. Did it help them? You're moving. Take. The Pittsburgh Penguins. Two of the games right at home. It's a clean sweep for the first time. Six nineteen eighty three the New York Islanders sweep a playoff series and they eliminate the Pittsburgh Penguins. All right. Great call John Bartlett's penguins over the islanders advance. Congrats to the islanders the same way. We congratulated Columbus and their fans congrats to the islanders. This wasn't Columbus tamper proportions. And even when you look at the standings, this wasn't an upset although very much it feels like one just because it's a sweep just because this week perhaps. And because we have the idea that the islanders shouldn't be a better team in the Pittsburgh Penguins. But they were the regular season. Yeah. The they are what your record says. It is another one full marks they earned it. You know, it's hard not to be happy for Jordan, Abberley playful. There's a bunch of people. I'm how I'm happy for Robyn Leonard, I'm happy for Jordan Everley. I'm happy for Matt bars. All like, I'm happy Frau, Josh bail. I'm happy for a lot of people those d like the the four guys who all had their battles to get their pool. Lock pellet Mayfield. Devon taves. Gar. Snow when he was still the GM there. He would every time I chatted with him. He would say Devon taes. Devon tapes. He was promising. The Devon tapes is going to be somebody those guys all had not easy roads to get to where they are. Our it's phenomenal. It's really good. I think that they've got to fight Lamour ellos gotta fight because we know he's more powerful than Batman. So we know that he's got to find some way that they get back into Nassau around to now I said this on air on Tuesday night and somebody texted me on Wednesday more actually called me on Wednesday morning. And they said the one of the biggest issues is the league wrestles with the idea of does the Rena really have the infrastructure like if they keep winning and the amount of media keeps increasing and you have certain needs of the building. Can it handle that really? And that's one of the issues, but it's phenomenal television. It's a phenomenal atmosphere, and it's not antiseptic. It's a throwback to where the league was. But anyway, with Pittsburgh, see, I think they've been weighing for a while that this was the end when they are in last place like a month and a half into the season Eastern Conference. They were weighing that. This was the end and. And twenty what does that mean? What does the end mean for Pittsburgh because the end philosophy is that said blow up and rebuild as Pittsburgh there? Well, the thing is now you're you realize now, you're probably this group. It's a great group. They won two cups. I'm not in any way shortening. What this group has done. But it's at the point now where they don't have prospects many anymore. They don't have as many picks anymore. They're getting old. They have to go out, and they have to add to what they have. And the only way they're going to add to what they have is by trading, a significant piece or two and to me the number one thing that you can do without really blowing lid off what you might think they do is la- Tang. You say la- Tang before castle even though his name their castle. I think is different. Like, I don't know what Kessels value is. There was a point this season where they looked into it. And then they pulled his name out. I mean, I think castle has some value. It's so difficult to predict what Kessels value is. Because there are people out there who will say he can help us. And there are people out there who will say we just don't have the infrastructure to deal with that to me, and I don't have a team off the top of my head. But to me he helps team significantly that has to grind for every goal because that is taxing the one thing that Phil cast a will give any team that he's on is an easy goal. Yup. And when you're a team that has to work hard to get the little black thing over the line and. It takes so much out of you to get to make that happen. Then your team the needs an easy goal. And the one thing that we know about Phil kessel is bang bang two shots. It's two goals. That's the one that I keep coming back to and that's been a discussion before the other one. I I wondered just because of who the coaches is Arizona. The that's a team that MS got to him before. And he missed the play they missed the plastics year. And it was a battle for them to score. And I do think that this season when he was potentially available think Arizona was one of the teams that kind of kicked tires on the idea. So kessel is three more years at six point eight, and they probably have to eat some money there. Now, let Tang is what four more years at seven three more years at seven to see I think he's got value. He did not play well in the playoffs regular season. He was phenomenal. Like he was not on my Norris ballot. But it was tough. He was online minority ballot. I'm not going to give the order. I had headman MC put mcdonagh on my northbound because I thought he had a phenomenal season. I had been mcdonagh burns John Carlson and Giordano who I will say was my number one. And the toughest to after that were Riley and looting. I think a right hand shot D like cr-. Tang who at seven to five for three years with a regular season? He just had you're going to be able to do that. You're going to have takers. You need him to say, okay, though, is you have no trade clause. According to cap, friendly modified, no trade and move. Plus, always got a modified, no trade. So probably with a guy like that. If you're gonna do it. You're going to work with them. You're going to say, you know, forever. These four Pittsburgh. You're probably want to send them a place where he is going to be happy. Okay. But let me take this one step further than if you're going to make cut like that why not make too if you're making that one cut because that's a big one. I think that's what you're if you're in for penny in for a pound, right? We're probably talking kessel. We're probably talking Tang. And then we'll see what else they wanna do a hockey central Nunes. It was on with Brian Burke, and Marc Savard and asked Burke, how many times, and he was the general manager was the name Yevgeny Malkin floated out there, and he said never to his team. He was never offered teams. Of course would. Call the penguins, and listen, you're not doing your jobs general manager, if you're not asking about everybody. And so that name would come up, but from his chair he was never actively shopped. Yes, I was a bit careless with this a couple years ago, and it kind of blew up. So I'm I'm really careful about it. Because I do think there was a point a couple years ago where the penguins kind of at least. Investigated it. I don't know how far it went. But it was before they want again in two thousand fifteen and they were not in a in a great position. And I think they at least kicked it around. But it never really went that far it's up to him, right? If if if if if this is even any kind of a possibility it's gotta be because he wants to do it because they're going to have to do it through him seemed often the playoffs. He wasn't himself. See people ripped Crosby. I thought Crosby played pretty hard. It just didn't work from the honors a marvelous job pull up and pellets played fantastic. Whoever matched up against him. Did a great job. Whether it was the Brock Nelson line or the clutter of buck line, which I think where the two lines that got the most time against him last time, I checked they did a great job in him. But he played really hard Malkin was not himself. He just wasn't Malkin. But at the end of the day, it's gotta be his call. And let's just take this even further if he's willing to even consider it. Where's it going? Who's got nine point five while people in their people will make room for him. But how many places he really gonna wanna go to? Rangers florida. Everything's florida. Right. Everything's coming up Florida right now. But anywhere really is any more than that. What about someone like Patrick horn Quist? And what about someone like only Mata those it to other people as I'm going through the roster last night that I say, okay, if they're going to cut well only monitors a guy they've been looking at moving for a while now and the and they just haven't liked what's been available. Be more years at four. I don't think that he really has great value right now heartless niches one. He just signed extension. This took effect for next year. Right. This season. Sorry for the five point three. They all all all the years blend together. Like, I mean, the thing about horn Quist is if I was a good team that I had chance to win. I would definitely be looking at that guy because he's a great great pain in the ass playoffs. He's one of those players where GM say I wish we could get rid of the instigator rule for one day. Just so we could deal with him. See I think Pittsburgh will look at this. Like, we want to do a retool on the fly because we want to contend again while Crosby, and assuming Malkin is still there are in their primes are still able to do it. I don't think this is a three year rebuild. You're still going for it. The other thing too is I think they have to extend Sullivan again soon. I think his contract is coming up. So you know, you have to do that too. And that's a big ticket luck. Like venial just got five million Todd McClellan. I don't think he got five if he gets his bonuses. I think he's. At five but Mike Sullivan's got to Stanley Cup. So he's five million dollar guy. At least. Let's get there. Then Elaine foot off your flyers off the sound anything won't to get to a couple of other Stanley Cup. Tissues unit. Couple of seconds. But these are also headlines Elaine vino new head coach of the Philadelphia. Flyers not surprised meal. We reported last Friday that they had permission to talk to him. And you know, people told me I soft pedaled it that it was going to be him on Friday, and you just don't wanna be wrong. Right. So you you keep it a little looser than you, really think. But once they lost Quenneville, I think a jumped to number one on their list, and and they went out and they got him. And you know, I know it didn't end well for vino in the Rangers. But I've seen a lot of his work over the years. I dealt with them in Montreal I dealt with them in Vancouver. I dealt with them with the Rangers. When they were really good. And I was still doing a lot more plow series on the road. I think the guy is a hell of a coach with a team. That's ready to take a leap. And I think Philadelphia's definitely one of those teams that's ready to take a leap. I assume. Rick wilson. Is going to stay on the bench there. He did a great job with our D. I really liked being. Yo I I just think that that guy is not he's not gonna make the same stakes that got him at the end in in New York. Whatever the issues were there think he's smart enough to say that's not the way it can be again and all make it better. I think he's a really demanding good. Coach Wilson did a great job with Dr San Heim. This season. Hey with Elaine video one of the and this might just be knee-jerk based on you know, previous history. But I guess all his previous have probably stopped saying that does this mean that the Philadelphia Flyers are forget the future. It's right now trade kids bringing vet players if they're gonna trade kids. I think last year they were definitely heading in that direction. I think the smartest thing Chuck Fletcher. Did was he put the brakes on a bit one of the reasons? Ron excellent got fired was because they were like, okay, let's go. Let's go. Let's go and one of the really quiet museum shell last season was the flyers. They hired. Valerie Kamilo over from the Washington nationals, and she's charged basically of their business operations. And they and they let go of the person at the end of the year who was previously there. So I think that shows you the pressure they feel to sell tickets and improve and she's got an excellent reputation, and as we know to like, we said one of the reasons they made the change from Hextall's. They wanted to. Accelerate the process I thought Fletch do a really good job of kind of slowing that down. They didn't make any ridiculous rates move to calm everyone down and they brought up cutter heart. That's the one change. They did make they brought him up. And I don't think they're gonna make crazy stupid trades. But I think they know that results are expected the interesting one is going to be Goss despair. You know, they've got a lot of the his name just always seems to be in the rumor mill will see what they do if they go anywhere. Four more years at four point five. It's a great contract. Offensive defencemen wonderful on the power play. But they got a lot of guys San Heim Provorov. It's like there's good Dion the heroic even there, right? The other guys came up at the end of the year played they look good like they've got a surplus there. I flipped Meier's real nice as well. The other coaching issue, and you reference it a couple of seconds ago Todd McCullough now head coach of the Los Angeles Kings, not surprise I that was the guy they want all along. I think he did some smart negotiating with buffalo in the and LA in and made it kind of work but make a marketplace. Marketplace create yourself leverage, that's negotiation one one. But I think he always wanted L A. And I and I think Rob Blake knew that that was the guy he wanted. He coached him. And I'm not surprised in the least bit that it worked out that way. And I think most people aren't either what does he do to the Los Angeles Kings? What happens to the Los Angeles Kings this off season now that they don't have the interim coach behind the bench there. We talked last week about. Okay. What does this mean? Philly Cova chalk. Now, they have the bench boss. Todd McLellan is in there, knowing what we know about him coaching previously in San Jose. And then most recently Edmonson, what do you? You expect him to do in L A and what are the expectations for the kings? I expect that they will look at year wine is what didn't work with Kovalchuk so year to Halloween make it work. I assume he'll try to get Kobo Chuck to play with Strang's, you know, this year, they started with Cova Chuck and a place on the power play that didn't work for him. I'm I'm sure that will be different LA too is going to do another one of those rebuild on the fly things. They're going to try to bring in some of their youth. I'm curious to see how much of a player they're going to be this summer what they look to do younger and faster younger and faster. But they've got big contracts on the books. Right. So he's a big ticket. Copay tires are still has term and five point two. Dustin Brown is a big ticket. You mentioned Cova Chuck that's five point eight. There's there's some cool checks only two more years. And if you make that were especially objects six point two, yes. But you can try to make it work at least better than you. Did this year? You've got to hope some of your kids breakthrough in. Play for you know, they'll probably by out phenomenal. Enough. I assume that that's a move. That's going to be coming there. You think a buyout not? Let's try to make this work with the new head coach Blake said, they might do that. I'm sure they'll try but Blake said at the end of your press conference that buyouts are possible. And that's the name that you know, might stand out a little bit two more years at five point two. Yeah. You know, they might do it. I just think that he will try to get them to play faster, but they're going to need different personnel to do that. I'm curious about the whole Jeff Carter thing too. I mean, I got the sense that they weren't exactly thrilled with you know, how that went this year and Carter clearly made healthy to me. Well, you also made it clear he didn't want to go many places, and I think the relationship between him and the organization wasn't always easy. And we'll see if they can repair that the other thing too is I'm curious about the goaltending. In one of the things you can do is. If you're not gonna trade quick they've got a couple of goalies there. They've got Campbell. They've got Peterson. I'm wondering if one of those two guys becomes a trade peace because goalies now, there's not sixty four of them. Although we're couple years away from sixty four. And now we only need sixty to those could be the king's best trade pieces. If that's what they wanna do. You say we're keeping wine we moved the other. If you're not moving quick. So does that mean that you're hinting at the let's get all these teams? Right. Carolina, New York Islanders. Boston Bruins Dallas Stars model of we don't have one starter. But to starters will be more of a model for teams next year for sure when we talked earlier about load management. That's the first thing that comes to mind for me is how you handle goaltenders and. The analytics crew will always tell you don't play them back to back because the numbers aren't favorable. And so most teams have stopped doing that. Is this that next step? I think it's also a realization that the league is the. Yeah. The the travel on everything and you need three guys. If you're a playoff team, you need three guys to other NHL issues before we get to Paul Vison nets. We'll do separate podcast with business that will release next week. We're gonna play a couple of clips from the interview we did with him earlier on this week other headlines around the NHL K Nazem Kadri. Yup. Before you embark on a journey of revenge. Dig two graves went on the journey of revenge and ended up costing him. Old. And pitch obedient mcadoo. It's the hit was not called on Marlo. But it was a reaction of cadre that through the arm up of Brad Meier immediately char is going over to check on them. Would you make of the situation and be the suspension, which wasn't a set number of games? Not the first time they've done Raffi Torres, and Jared, Saul we've seen it before Brennan Shanahan's was the voice that was on that video as well. Thursday night in Los Angeles, San Jose, Ford Raffi Torres delivered and legal check to the head of kings for Jared Stoll, which I'm sure that Boston made quite clear in the hearing with George barrows. What did you make of the suspension itself and the act itself? And does it mean anything for his future with the Toronto Maple Leafs dance your second question? I I think that's still to be told. Tronto win this series without them. If they do I think it absolutely changes the way potentially goes. But what happens if he comes back? They win the let's say for argument's sake. Fs here. They win the series. It comes back and he plays dynamite. Like, they still need good contracts on the team because of all their situation. He's contractors great. Who's your third line center next year, if you're the maple leaves? Yes. And everyone's still there's doesn't Qadri are you making the third line center. No. There was a point in game. Three were they won the other night where they played Goce with knee Landers linemates late in the game. Yes. So they took him out and they put him with Marlin Brown. That says to me he's not their third line center. I know we like to all rush to judgement and say, he's gone. I think they're really annoyed at him. I know they let him lead the stretch on the practice day between games three and four which I thought was actually a really good idea of Babcock by think organizationally they are really unhappy with him right now. The best thing that could happen to that guy is they win and he gets another chance, and he goes with that chance. But as we record this it's Wednesday before game four there's anywhere between two and four games left in this series. As we sit this year right now who is this organization if they have to cut someone gonna cut. For salary for salary who's getting cut someone make the argument, it'd be William Neulander, he's one. And this is just us talking to more for game for Gardner, not resigned. You have to assume that's too. And if you still need to cut you have Gionta verisign awesome Matthews is one to up the gut and if the cut salary probably Nazem Kadri, I think it's some combination of Gardner. Neil Lander cadre Marlow if you can do it. That's I mean Marla would be just don't know the Connor Brown. Okay. It's a combination of that group. But the thing is they still have something to show you like they still have time to show you that. It's not going to be them. Kyle do this. The one thing we both say this ally, you always have to throw a conventional wisdom with him the conventional wisdom right now as you have to get rid of cash. Gary. And I think they are annoyed him, but he's not doing it. While he's annoyed at him. If that's the way it's going to go. He's going to take his time. And he's going to think it out. I am not a person who's convinced that cadres days are over. I'm not because I still think there's more to be determined by how others perform, but the one thing he has done as Babcock had said is he has put his feet in the determination of other people not only with player safety, but with his own organization. Thoughts on the suspension itself as you mentioned not the first time we've heard it. But do you have an issue with a series as opposed to a number of game? No fine. No why go that route. Because I think if they lose like, it's a big suspension. Yeah. Even if they win it's a big suspension Colin Campbell said to me that he felt in the playoffs. One game was two games. Yeah. So essentially it somewhere between six and ten game suspension. Now, Brian Burke feels differently. He felt in the first round. It was maybe two or three and in the Stanley Cup final. It was five, but there's a multiplier it's a significant. It's a check three years ago. He got suspended for games for regular season. Cross-check this year on the child. There's only one crosscheck that got us suspension ju- jar care on on Vince done two games. The other ones were all fines to get three to five playoff games for cross. Check. That's stiff very stiff. I got. No problem with it. What do you think? No, I'm fine with that. I, you know, and this is might be in the sake of keeping it as clean as possible and not have carryover suspensions. I'm no I have a mean elegant unless it happens in that game six and only turns into a one gamer. I have no problem just if his early in around, and it's significant I have no problem saying you're not gonna see this team for the rest of the series. We're going to step away. We'll come back with part of our interview with Paul Bissonnette. Former NHL now star of the spitting chiklis podcasts. We're back in a moment. Brought to you by the next generation GMC Sierra the now complete with the world's first six function multi-proposal gate net sliding around on the way to hockey use the built-in load stop to help keep them in place. Loading what seems like half teams worth of bags the tailgate? Also turns into a staff for easier access and has an inner gate that flips down for unloading all the year, you can fit GMC. Sierra Denali, we are professional grade. Podcast still to come ask. Thirty one Elliott. This is going to be part of our conversation with Paul Bissonnette s- of the Zona coyotes organization of spitting chiklis podcast, and he's a guy that has a lot of ways his beak in a number of different fountains. And I think we're both on the same page about this good for him. He's trying to lots of different stuff in this post hockey career in why not keep doing what you wanna do. Keep trying everything. My only jealousy of him is that he can get away with things on his podcast that we never could on ours. We would sound so phony if we tried to make this pod check what's come on at a chance heads up, those some some salty language would visit. If you are listening to this, you know, maybe not with children just because the language now. I don't know how you feel Jeff. But I believe it's my responsibility to police might child language and behaviour not everybody feels the same way. If you are concerned about language, don't listen to this with your children. Now, the coyotes they ever say like with your crossover, something you did the pillow talk this year with Tyson Nash, which I thought was hilarious. I was just silly. But it was fun. Like, these guys in beds, next to with the heck is going on his this visual this. It's Larry Hello fans. Voting the pillow talk with business shirt. You know me and national miss the old times taking pre-game naps after pre game meal and really the player lifestyle. So we decided to check into a logo tell, you know, get back to the old times. I thought of the pillow talk idea that was your idea. If I said it was terrible would use. It was Nashes idea. No, offend me. You kidding me? You read my, but the coyotes ever worry about any of the crossover something that said on spending checklists affecting you at the coyotes or anything like that. Well, I wanted to stab Bush the coyotes gig, I, and then I hopped on the podcast, and surprisingly, they haven't said anything. But I think that they know that I'm picking that over coyotes because and that's not a shot of the coyotes eater. I'm not polished, my outlet is spitting chick. Let's that's where I get to be myself. And for that reason, I think it's grown to the size. It has. And I have full creative control. The most exhausting thing is working with corporate brands. Although, you know, it's nice to it's it's the money's a little bit easier is I don't have someone tell me. Watch you say there, I think we gotta change out, it's exhausting. There's people who don't want to be told what's funny anymore, and there's a market for and we're in it. You'll let your one of their best embassador to you. Always talk them up on the podcast. So I can't see it being a problem for them at all. No. And if it ever became a problem, they could come to me. And let me know. But I'm I'm not in this to hurt anyone. I'm just being myself. And if you know if that if word upset them, I would be totally okay. With that. I'd say, hey, I respect your decision. I understand that you're looking out for your best interest as a company and an organization, and I wouldn't have no problem. Getting can't you know, the thing too is it's growing Paul like the NHL is starting to use you now and some events I laughed my head off at the tour this year with the what's in the box that was geared that was their idea. So that was their idea thought of it already been done before. And I'm Mike. Okay. That's a cool concept. Wasn't sure how crazy the guys are going to be about it. They played along. They were good. They were nervous. Like you could. Well, they were really nervous day too. I think a few of them would caught wind. So we weren't able to use that that footage, but we were planning on actually putting them in the box. But then that each always like, could you imagine awesome Matthews gets bit by a lizard. And he gets an infection and he's unable to play this artist season. I wouldn't be able to walk the streets. Toronto Matthews over the year. Komodo dragon. Bullfrog fungus infection created for us release ever. Like what what's your goals, your polling, where do you want this to take you my main objective in my post hockey career is to show fans the lighter side of these guys as much as possible. That's why did that little show. Well, that's all she wrote for me, my lustiest hockey careers. Come to an end, look when you carry multiple organizations on your back over the course of a decade, the body tends to fall apart just last year tour, both my yells and played on for those keeping score home. That's one more than Joe thord ever played on. I hang up the skates. Having accomplished everything. There is the competition sport. With my sights set on a new conquest the world of medium, and what better way to start my new career than with a documentary on a place. That's very close to my heart a stunningly beautiful province. A melting pot of so many great cultures backgrounds and heritage place where everyone is accepted, regardless of your skin color creed. A symbol of diversity. And everyone is fit to there are more fitness studios here per capita than anywhere in the world. Everyone seems to run hike and even do yoga. And everyone seems so happy which is weird 'cause it's a fucking expensive. Anyway, the greenery would blow your mind away the oceans and mountains had already left your John floor. Yes, I'm talking about beautiful British Columbia. This is business does BC. So that show. I mean, we wrote a script assuming guys would hop in. And we kind of had to give them. This is what you are as a character. We need some guys with themselves some guys kind of playing characters, and I think fans liked it. Because they're like man, these hockey guys are acting. This is ridiculous sucked. They're terrible. But it's kind of funny. It's good. Good. Right. So I want to do another one in start expand the roles bigger production. And just I mean fans sent a lot of money to watch these guys play. And my dad worked at a steel mill and he worked hard for his money. And I know what it costs to go to hockey games. And you know, I wanna give these guys as much entertainment as they deserve because I got to benefit from those ticket sales in the NHL pays right? So I want to give a gift to all the hardcore fans out there a little bit about your career as well. And I remember talking to Brad may once then I said, maybe which one team did you always wanna play for? But you never had a shot to he said, I always myself somewhere down the road in a Bruins. Jersey at just felt like I should one day play for the Bruins end forever. Never you never ended up obviously playing for the Bruins. Is there a team that you always wanted to play for going back to when you're a kid, and you I lace them up. Always had you had. Wow. What it'd be like the pull that sweater over my head. Yeah. Cliche. Answer would be leaves. But that's what would be your from around here from around here. Also when I was picked up by waivers by Phoenix three teams put into claim Minnesota Toronto and Phoenix and Phoenix had finished the worst of those three teams. So they got to claim me the year that I got picked up after I got sent down and training camp by Pittsburgh. So I'd reached it was my fourth year. So I was passed entry level. So I had to clear waivers, and they snag me. And I mean Jonah would have been cool. Although I did have a good memory in Toronto. My the first game that my dad had ever see me play scoring the game where against the leaves ice. So my mother was sick at the time. So she was unable to tend the game cr-. Crazy enough. Buffalo would be my either answer because that's even closer to home. And I went to a lot of games there. My dad would take me there. Instead a lot. It was a lot cheaper. Of course, if the old awed and place to watch games. And also my grandparents had never seen me play in any game too. So my dad had already been so my mom and grandparents come to the game in buffalo. Sure shit. I scored the fucking game winner in that one to my grandparents along the glass on the other side. So when I was given the knuckles pass I'm going to the corner, and I gave her the knuckles to my what my grandpa he passed away. He's gone now. Rest in peace. He did a lot for me. You know, driving me to practices and whatever but seven NHL goals in my career in two game winners. It's kinda cool. Right. I'm always curious about tough hockey players and the idea of fear. We're talking to PJ stock wants make of all those guys you ever peach folly who scared you, and he said robbery robbery, those is at all so tough. Difficult things from has athletes talk about, but who are you scared of and did anyone ever all here? You know? I was I was nervous every pre-game now because I knew I had to fight. So I was always nervous and scared going into games because you never know it could be the one punch then ends at all Holt, nor was was just one of those guys that scare me. He always had a good game face. You never see him really joking around. And he just had that look where I'm gonna handle business. And then I don't know how much truth to this. But I believe he had a metal plate put in his face and his hand because of all the fighting, and he cracked is audible, so he was essentially like the Terminator lease in my head. This could all be fabricated in my own mind. I don't know. In fact, if he does have a plate in his head in hand, and he just had that knockout power where he always gets his punches through. So he was definitely one. Eric Godard was a guy that I played with in. Pittsburgh, nobody talks about the sky enough. You see him with his your big, man. You seem shirt. Though, he wasn't jacked he was just long. He was just long and he just stood in there. And he threw thankfully, I was just roommate because I made the NHL and he was in Pittsburgh at the times. I didn't have to fight him. Those are the two off the top of my head. I fought Perros Chris Neal always seem like a pretty tough guy to me that I would have an issue never fought Ryan Reeves, right? Like thought Ryan Reeves twice like 'cause I watched him against Cain the other night. And like those are two tough guys who both are unafraid like the thing that really stood out to me was how they were smiling at each other after that was over. Pretty wanna fight either of those. The freight he smiling while it's going on there. A few guys that I know are ever talked to twenty twists top of that list who loved everything about it. He's he's hungry for I liked doing it more when I was sticking up for teammates. That's when the switch would hit where I'm like. I don't care if I get head. I'm going to hurt. I fought riot reason. He just broken the NHL. I would say I got slight advantage on that one. He'll beat me up the next time. But what's crazy about him? Is he's progressively gotten hungrier for and you can tell by how he fights still in that Cain fight. He was swinging so hard and yet it was so controlled that guy would terrify me had to do that. I would be terrified by that. And if he connects with one of those he's a massive human being we did the fitness testing when I was at Saint Louis camp the one year, and this guy was bench pressing like three oh five like it was nothing. And and we're all sitting around disguise hurt someone, but it credits a cane for standing in their king Kane's got that switch to he doesn't get pushed over. No, he's tough. He's a tough every three times in one game when he was in buffalo. Yes. Any any any beat someone up and use? I was like g k disguising gamer. Paulison at the Zona coyotes and the spitting checklists podcast. Now, the entire interview we will air next week. Should I throw a date on that MO or just it's the playoffs in rob? Is it'll come up next week the full conversation. Subscribe with Paulison it. Yeah. You will get it. And hopefully, you will enjoy it. If you enjoyed that clip. And if you enjoy his work as a member of the Zona coyotes pillow talk out standing and also is work as part of these spitting chiklis podcast. Interesting story there about the Terminator and plates in the face and Colton Moore. I'm always fascinated with the element of fear. And we don't like to talk about a lot. I know players don't. But listen, any sport, no matter, whether it's physical or mental intimidation is a huge part of it's absolutely. And it's kind of fitting that we we talk about it in this week with the whole spectacle of Ovechkin situation, Washington Carolina. What did you? Think watching that what I think watching it. It's uncomfortable to watch someone get hurt. Like that in the fight. I'm I've never been one. That's clutch the pearls about a hockey fight as unless someone's getting jumped or unless I mean, we've all seen hockey fights. And you know, one of the the big ones for historians are is the Dave Schultz del Ralph which should've been called off. Well, before it went on, you know, past the point where it's an entertaining hockey fight. I looked at it as a young hockey player who made a mistake and got big dog by Alex Ovechkin I'd uncomfortable as it was the outcome. I'm not upset that that was a fight in the NHL where you know. I mean, if you challenge somebody anywhere in that happens. That's what happens you, you have to know what you're doing. When you do it. The one thing I don't get about. All this is that Ovechkin has said that he was challenged and vast. And Rodber numerous answer the day after was well, let's just say there's two different stories going on out there. So I don't know what the truth is. I'm assuming it's somewhere in the middle. Someone will ask fetched cough about the number one thing is I'm glad to hear. He sounds like he's okay. That's number one. But again, the, oh, I mean, I always remember I grew up with, you know, there are consequences for your actions. That's what my parents always told me. And you know, like if you bait someone and you lose out because of it. It's your fault. To some of questions on Twitter, hashtag ask thirty one from Kyle Frizzell. Hey, guys, we hear the term of players coach. But would you say there's a players GM in the league currently players GM. I've seen GM's get burned by being quote unquote to loyalty players bardy Lombardia. Mike Richards is the one most recently comes to mind right away. Lombardi. Sure did. And Marion Gabric was he signed after they won the Cup. And you know that that contract didn't work out for them as a general manager. I think you almost have to have be detached Burkey when he was GM really tried to be a player's GM in some some guys and other guys know, he has certain codes the trade. Griffis freeze before the actual there were there were things that he did that drove other players, absolutely bananas and agents bananas. I think when you're in charge of their futures. It is very very difficult to always be player friendly. I think what happens the most is that some guys look at players who've done something for them in terms of the way they played and they try to do favors for that player. We've all heard the stories you have I have about general managers that do a player a favor by getting him out of that market. Or if you have to make a trade send them to somewhere where it's good for them. We've all seen humanitarian trades. Oh, this isn't a hockey trade. This is a humanitarian whose a big one in baseball last year. Stephen Scotty, Saint Louis to Oakland when his mother was ill. Okay. From JJ. Hank are the pens doomed to the same fate as Chicago in L A after Cup wins. It's possible. I mean, we talked about this a lot earlier in the podcast. They're going to have to make some moves to replenish, I hesitate to bed on Sydney Crosby missing the playoffs because I don't like to bet against Sidney Crosby. But you can see there is a retool coming here. And there might be a little bit of pain from OG come on man with the success of that say that oh, gee, come on, man. All right with the success of Columbus. Will we see more GM's become more bold and aggressive at future trade deadline's men? I hope so Elliott, well, I really hope so too. And the other thing too is they beat the team Tampa Julian breeze made the decision not to add the deadline. So you you've got the two extremes in that situation to deadline deals and the two headliners have worked out Matt shayna marks don't the thing about the. That's really interesting is that when Columbus was in danger of missing the playoffs. People were basically asking me every radio interview. I did is kick aligning get fired at the end of the season. And now, he's a genius. And I think we were pretty consistent. I was always saying that I believe that. That's what Columbus should do that. This was the year for them go for it absolutely made a thousand percent cents. But people talk all the time about the process if you want to build a winning to throw process the toughest things the fans in meteor only interested in winning and losing, right? Like, nobody. Nobody cares about the process. So is your line in any smarter today than he was yesterday? No, I think he made it to me he made the right choice. But today now he looks like a genius because everything paid off and two weeks ago. Everybody was right again fired because they didn't look like they were gonna make the playoffs. Like, it just shows you that it's a results oriented business. But I'm glad the result worked in that way. Because we wanna see a sport where people are. Unafraid to go for it and aggressive and saying, you know, what if they can do it. I can do it. Our team can do it. Let's go for it. If I'm gonna sit there for hours on deadline day, I want something happening. No kidding. Give us some talk about from pep. Nuts husband has there ever been any thought of a program in the NHL like the Mike -letes, Mike 'cause program in the NFL seems like a great way for charity and personality to shine a bit would love it. If they did it with gloves. See I am in favor of this. So major league baseball has one weekend every year. We're also you can put your whatever name you want on your jersey. And I think the NBA did it this year to someone will correct me if I'm right or wrong to they not do it this year. Although I thought they did. But I mentioned it to berkey. And he thought I was more storm surge stuff. Like, that's where you win. So now, I'm really in favor of it. I'd love to see why not like that. Thing you could do it. Maybe what they should do as you. Do it for the all star game. Why not I like doing the frequencies? Okay. So I mean, what is harmless I told it's a fantastic caused a great thing. And it's harmless further to that one the same spirit from shawnee hill. K if helmets becoming mandatory during warm up what are your thoughts on allowing them to be custom painted leg goalie masks? Oh my God. I'm just imagining berkey and cherry. Good good. It's good. It's liling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is good. I will say Jeff I think there has to be a limit. Is that the limit though, I think we all have a life. Fine, goalie masks helmets. Yeah. I'm not. So sure I'm liking that. Because you want something branches for worm. No, no, I understand. But you want something that will have an effect, right? Like, if you're going to do something charitable or something like that. Like like, the tweeter was suggesting I don't know if in warm up that's going to do it. Painted on your skates. Personalized I'm thanking you want. Remember, my wife when she was pregnant with our first child, and I was working hockey night one night. She called me up or semi attacks and said, hey, I'm bored. I wasn't coming home to clock in the morning, you mind, if I mess around the your skates, and I'm like, what do you want? You don't trust. But she's an artist, and I come home and sitting there on our coach, she had taken my was same skates sixties and on the tuck she had painted a chimp on it. And it looks fantastic. And now, I love it fantastic. Why not that? I have no problem with that. Okay. In our copycat league. This from John grubb's in our copycat league. What new trend that was set this year will likely carry over maybe two goalie thing. No backup goalie just two starters. Well, I mean, we hope it's something we addressed earlier in the section that is the go for it mentality. I think it's too early to say yet. I hope it's the gopher mentality. But maybe after two rounds we're gonna have a better idea. Clumps is going to be rested. No matter who they face next, and sort of the too much this might be Ottawa two thousand seven might be like depending on how long these other series go we could be looking at a an eight or nine day layoff. Okay. So we'll end on that question Elliott. Let me ask you how you doing? You're a weekend. I know the first round is a grind. I know. You're not going to ever complain about your job. And now we've talked about it. But you've talked about preparing for playoffs before. And listen, I get the luxury of when the last game is over. I turn off my ipad. And I go to bed. You don't hire holding up really good one of the things that really helps to panels and the other panel with Dave and Colby and dog. They have the Vegas San Jose series. So you're not leaving it, you know, one one thirty every night. There's only been one late game that was has been really bad. And that was the game three the Calgary Colorado game where Colorado stop them. So I think when you're games are good. And you're not going home at one thirty every night. It's really that much more enjoyable in the storylines have been good, you know, I the series. We're doing Toronto Boston series. It's been good the Calgary. Colorado Sears while we're going to do game four tonight. But the first two games. Are really good. The Winnipeg Saint Louis series looks like a seven gamer. That's always really exciting. And even though we didn't do Columbus. We did the islanders. I think stories like that keep you really excited. San Jose's been a fun series to watch. I think as long as you get compelling games. It's really good. Now. The other thing that I've learned is. I don't go out after the games in the first round used to be go out. You have a beer. And then you go home. I don't do that anymore. Much in the first round of the round. You gotta take care of yourself. So I go our little boys all. So depressing. So sad. I go home I crawl into bed. I maybe play one game of internet hearts, and I go to sleep. So I'm better at taking care of myself. I used to be at what point on this question at what point during an overtime. Do you start missing shootouts? Never. I never want that in the place never ever ever. What would you know? I just know how you know sitting there watching over and over and over there's a certain time where you're saying to yourself, and everyone has a different everyone has come close. Saying in general is there a yeah. I can handle two periods of overtime at which point it start to say this getting ridiculous. Okay. Here's we leave you with Canadian singer songwriter. Sean saroka, aka ten kills the pack. He's got a show in Toronto. On may third. Same-day? He'll be dropping his EP force majeure. Here is Barscelona by ten kills the panic on the podcast. To the polls show. Gary on chasing your face with two page. 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