35 Burst results for "Massa"
Iran Strikes Kurdish Opposition Groups in Northern Iraq
"An Iranian drone bombing campaign targeting the basis of an Iranian Kurdish opposition group in northern Iraq has killed at least 9 people and wounded over 30 Mccurdy regional government's health ministry says the strikes come as demonstrations continue to engulf the Islamic Republic after the death of Massa amity a 22 year old Iranian Kurdish woman who was detained by the morality police a member of the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan says the new Iran attacks targeted a military camp homes offices and other areas around
What to Know About Protests in Iran
"Iranian state television has suggested the death toll in protests over the death of a 22 year old woman in police custody has risen to over two dozen The Islamic nation's state run media has reported demonstrations of hundreds of people in at least 13 cities including the capital Tehran now videos are emerging showing crowds protesting and security forces in riot gear firing and chasing protesters The protests had begun as an emotional outpouring over the death of Massa amani a young woman held by the country's morality police for allegedly violating its strictly enforced dress code in a further development people in Tehran and some other cities are planning to hold a counter protest rally after
'America's History: 1215-1776' With Author Connor Boyack
"Folks, welcome back. Have you heard of the tuttle twins? Well, now you have, in case you hadn't, and there's a new book out celebrating American independence brand new book called America's history 1215 to 1776. Did you get that? 1215 to 1776. Connor, boyack, the author is kind of what you just shared about how the centuries leading up to 1776. It's impossible if you're a genuine free thinker, not to see what looks like God's Providence. I mean, the idea that there's this continent that there are these problems in Europe that lead people to get on boats that if you centuries earlier, they weren't able to do this, but now they're able to sail across the Atlantic and to form these free societies and to kind of experiment with the idea of freedom. They're too far away for king George or others to bother them, so they have the freedom to mess up, to figure it out, whatever. All of that really seems providential. It's kind of amazing that this was able to happen so that as the decades pass, they begin to get the idea, hey, hey, we think we know how to govern ourselves. We think maybe it's possible we could govern ourselves. What do you say? I mean, it really is almost funny to me how it happened. I think that's right. The circumstances were extremely unique. I also see God's hand in it. And it's why I'm especially concerned about the state of the school system and history education today to have this birth rate, this blessing that's been given to us. And if we are just kind of discarding that or dismissing it or ignoring it, if we're not teaching kids these powerful ideas to appreciate them to understand them to defend them when they're being attacked, then what are we doing? We're trading away the birthright from Massa pottage and here we are in modern America where people don't even understand these ideas. And so for me, as I survey the landscape and I see how far I think we've fallen, how far things have been dumbed down for kids today. To me, it's a red flag. It's a warning. It's shouting from the rooftops to say penance. You need to understand things have gotten bad. They're talking about all kinds of stupid stuff in the schools. We have to take our own initiative and the problem, Eric, that I've experienced over the years of doing the tuttle twins. Is that a lot of these parents who like me are products of the public school from years past, they feel inadequate in their own understanding. They feel like, well, how do I talk to my kids about something I never really learned that well, or what I can do. And so that's why what we're trying to do is to say, hey, mom, hey, dad, no worries. You're going to learn together with your kids. Just read these books. They're fun stories. You'll talk about them. You all learn
"massa" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"I'm going to kill somebody today. Right. If people would only comply with what the officer requests, there would be zero number of shootings that you have. Absolutely. When you get the non compliance that then creates problems. I don't want to shoot anybody. But we just request something we know something's going on. We have a feeling. And if you're fine, and if everything's good, then you're going to walk away then we're absolutely. If you're doing something bad and they want to talk to you, you're wind up going to jail. God bless your brother. Thank you so much for coming on game of crime. Same guys have a nice Thanksgiving, God bless you. And remember when the 25th anniversary hit some people are saying, is there a place where we can go listen to the real story you point them back to game of crime podcast? And this episode as being the definitive episode of all time that we heard not only from the cop, but we heard from the cook. There you go. And the Wolfgang Puck saucy, the man that you are. Thanks for everybody. Stay tuned. Man, if this doesn't just make you stand up and salute and go motherfucker. I mean to know that these guys are armed with armored piercing rounds that they have, they're shooting up everything in sight, and you don't know how many officers are down and you still take the fight to them. I mean, again, you can't see me, but this is me saluting all of those people that day. Everybody who ponied up who saddled up, you know, and went and did the work. I'm with you, brother. You know, not only were they shooting at the cops, they were shooting in a civilians out there. You know, people that are unarmed. I mean, these are two true pieces of shit that got what they deserve that day. And then the audacity of, you know, we have the guy credit of mention in his name. He's deceased now, but his family sued the police department and Ricky from death. Yeah. Unbelievable. I mean, people just take this to the utmost extremes that just make you think I thought I'd seen it all, but damn, they can surprise me over and over and over again. But the cool thing about Rick is what he's doing now. It's all we can do not to say something during the intro and the Oscars, please. I used to guard you. Now I am the saucier. I am the head chef. Wolfgang Puck of LAPD. Here's a guy who was maybe the smallest guy that's ever been on LAPD S.W.A.T.. You know, the tunnel rat for them after badass kicking butts and taking names. And now he's a cook. He's a chef, and he won the cooking contest. I'm going to download that Mac and cheese. We put it on the website, folks. So go to the website, game of crimes, podcast dot com. Click on.
"massa" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"You know, what do we do? And nobody was hurting that. So that's knock on wood, that worked out well. A similar to that case where we just had Alex Collins on there from the big bear shooting in which the protection detail when dorner put out his manifesto who's going to kill a couple of maids came along in a car and they couldn't tell who it was at nighttime. I saw his headlight Shannon come in directly and they lit them up, you know, with gunfire and I think they're independently wealthy now. But you know what, but people like to be like to your point, you've got a week to, you've got a week or two weeks to sit back and dissect something that somebody had to make a split second decision on. And that's always tough. Let me go back and ask you, though, I would have given here's the answer I would have give. If they said, do you know how many rounds you fired? I would have simply asked, what is a shit ton Alex? Figuring we kind of guessed that each one of us fired maybe 15 rounds between the three of us 45 rounds total. But okay, I'm not going to say that's not a lot, but considering maybe 20. You have a considering what you guys were going through. That doesn't sound like a lot, considering how much led these guys were throwing down. It's not. It really isn't. We had 30 round mags. I probably went through part of a mag, and then did a reload. Oh, you only did a reload after you went back and found your other four megs, which fell out of your pants. As you were crawling, and doing the research for today's interview, I read one article was estimated there were as many as 550 police officers out there. Does that sound legitimate? 32 550 police officers, 32 officers fired their guns. That's all. I thought it would be a lot more than that. 5 50. Well, you know what? They're in a position to where they're on a side street or something. And they don't have a shot. Yeah. You know, we're talking about the police officers that fired their guns, had a shot at the suspect or felt like they had a shot at the suspect. Suspect had.
"massa" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"Variety of law enforcement officers did a block to block about one square mile, if not more, door to door house to house backyard to backyard search of a suspect. When it was finally determined that there was no third suspect. Wow. So I got to go back to the logic of that for a minute because if that was the case, you would have taken how many officers off the street, the minute that they pulled the trigger or involved in the shooting. I mean, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to knock on an agency, but it's like that I'm with Steve. They're like, it doesn't make any sense. You still got an active fluid investigation, and yet their first concern is three of the most highly trained people out there on the scene. They want to pull you out and leave patrol officers with lesser firepower and other weapons out there. I don't get it. They brought in the rod in LA office, the FBI S.W.A.T.. They brought in SEB, which is the LA county sheriff S.W.A.T. team, along with the start calling all of our S.W.A.T. team in. So it was mainly a S.W.A.T. search from door to door and house to house. So it wasn't uniform police officers, let's get these guys with 38s out there. So it was all S.W.A.T. officers just from different agencies. The thinking is that they don't want the officer that was just involved in a police shooting to be interviewed by other people to have other people talking to him and might change his story or what has actually happened in the shooting. They don't want any outside influence. They want to get it right away. They want to get the information they being shooting team, investigators, Robert homicide. They want to get that right away when it's fresh in your mind as to what happens. So they've got two concurrent investigations with you going on right. One is an internal to shooting review team and then RH D sounds like, are they looking at it from a criminal standpoint? Or is this all just one investigation with multiple people involved? Well, it's just one investigation. Robert homicides, the one that runs it. They headed up. We don't do the investigation. We just do what we have to do. And then, I mean, obviously, our supervisors are going to be in on the investigation as far as our activity goes. There is a shooting team that comes out. And the shooting team investigates all law enforcement shootings. So now you have a shooting team that's going to come out. That's just one of the specialized units that is within.
"massa" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"Rick Massa is engaged in the biggest gun battle in U.S. history with one of the high incident bandits. As he goes to take another shot at the bandit, he discovers he has a really big problem. So while I'm shooting him, the one thing you never want to do is go to slide lock. That's where you're out of ammo when you're young. So I figure, okay, I'm going to do a tactical reload. I'll take the magazine out. Save it in case I need it again, put a new magazine in. So I go down and you should always have that magazine coming up first. So I go to do a roll over on my side and prone out. We're still engaged. Go down to my pants pocket and there's no magazines there. I thought, ah, shit. You know, what next? And I look over at the side of our because I'm at the back of the police car. I look over where I came out of the car and how ironic all four magazines are just laying there on the ground. Welcome to game of crimes..
"massa" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"They just kind of scratched their heads. One of the sergeants did not want me back because he said I showed a disloyalty to the unit by leaving. At the time I was gone for the 9 months S.W.A.T. had started a selection program, so you had a one week of selection where you were, for one week, you're shooting your moving, you're doing a number of things. And that's what they put the new selectees through. We're trying to get into S.W.A.T.. So I told him I wanted to come back. One sergeant was the only one that said no. The other 5 said sure, they said, but do we put him through the selection process and the lieutenant said no? We know what he can do. And we know what he can't do. We'll bring him in. But you're going to do a little bit of time like penance in one of the other parts. Yes. So I had to sit in one of the other platoons that was the furthest drive from my house. Oh, here comes the punishment. So I have the VNC platoon, which was I drive downtown every day from where I'm at in Ventura county all the way down to downtown. And I was down. I was in that platoon for only for a couple months. And then I came back in. Yeah, and then I came back in. How long's the drive? Oh, it was 30 miles 35 miles. That's not bad. Oh yeah, but in LA traffic, that's what two days. It took me a couple days to get down there in a couple of days to get back. Oh, there you go. And you know, that's what they used to do with other folks too. If you wanted to, I know talking to a friend of mine retired as a lieutenant with NYPD. And when they wanted to make it tough for people or change it, they would assign you to a precinct that was like over the river through the Woods. You would quit after a month. And the caveat to all of this is that metro officers take their cars home. I couldn't take my car home. I had to drive my own car. So after you groveled and you came back and you did your penances, please let me back on S.W.A.T.. They let you back on S.W.A.T., right? You were in purgatory, right? So you had time for your sins. And so now that leads us back up to them. So we kind of took a roundabout. But the horror story was so interesting because you start off your day taking care of the horses. I mean, these are beautiful animals and you're thinking, ah, today's a great day. We're going for a run because you're training for a big run, right? And it's just another day. You know, it's just another day in what we do. I'm out the door. We started at ten o'clock in the morning, but we were going in at 9 o'clock to get ready for a relay race. The department relay race. And myself, I got up there, dropped my partner off. He's in a firearms instructor. Drop him off at the academy range. And I come down closer to where the gym is parked my car. Get out, have my running stuff on. I meet up with two other guys. Steve and Pete, and we're getting ready to go for a long run. About that same time..
"massa" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"Abdomen, died. They wanted to drive the driver named Philippe cortese shot four times in the next John chess. You started having these things happening, but what point did this start getting your attention? Because now what we want to do is start setting the context for the north Hollywood shootout because there is a series of robberies, armored car and bank robbers that start happening before you guys get involved. So let's walk through some of those and what you knew about them because you actually ended up doing stakeouts for a while because of that. Well, the armored car robberies, they didn't run a flag up a flagpole because of those. We only found out about those later. The two suspects that we're talking about Larry Phillips and Emil modest areno did a couple of armored car robberies. But then they switched to banks. In LA is known at that time LA was known as the bank robbery capital of the world. You could have a bank robbery happen just about any time of the day. There was well, let's talk about that for a second. In your mind, being swapped being a cop out there in your mind, what led to this thing where it was like anybody wanted to rob a bank when to LA? Is that just because of, you know, the one thing we didn't talk about in this gets into talking about the banks? Los Angeles, the area, you guys covered is a very disperse area. I mean, it's a huge area to cover and the number of officers you have to do it with. Is less than what people think. So getting into the mid 90s now, you know, how many officers were on LAPD at the time, if you remember. Oh, LAPD, I think through that in my first part of my career, only had about 8000 and half of that would be in the street. Now you're dividing that half into 16 precincts, not counting all your specialized units. Your device units your. The bike details and all of that. So at any one time, you might have this is going to sound really bad. But you might only have 20 officers on shift on a shift at one time. Depending upon the area, the morning watch, you might have less because you don't have as many calls for service. At night watch, you might have more because there are more calls for service, day watch, same thing. So each division is a little bit different for what their needs are and also for what the area is. But when you think about it, you're talking about 2030 police officers and that's it for that whole area. Yeah, and what was the population like around that time? I mean, between the city and the county, oh boy, I don't know you remember how big I mean, you know, you start thinking it's maybe 5 or 6 million or something like that. What I'm doing is just kind of putting it in perspective because New York had 7 or 8 million people in New York City. Oh, no, we have Los Angeles, and you stop and think about it. Los Angeles is the second largest city in the United States. And that's right behind New York. So we have 8000 police officers. They have 35,000 police officers. Yeah, that's the point I was trying to make. So you can get the idea that we have 30 police officers and they're responding to radio calls all over the city. And an area you take vann eyes that can go from a huge area to other divisions like rampart that's not as big. So it really depends upon what the area is to how many police officers they have. And detectives and specialized units and motors and traffic and all that..
"massa" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"And make probation and then you could try to reapply. There were metropolitan division is a division that is it's like, like I explained to people, it's like a pie. And each piece of the pie is a specialized unit, whether it's administrative, B boy platoon for the officers that live towards out in the valley and the Santa Monica area, see Charlie platoon, which are for the officers that live in Hollywood and south, maybe south of Los Angeles. And then you have deep platoon, which is S.W.A.T., which is officers that apply from the other platoons. You have E platoon, which is the mounted unit, which came into being while I was working metro. And you have canine. And each platoon has its own ranking within it. They have their own lieutenant, their own sergeants and their officers. And so when I first went into metro, I went into boy platoon. And the first, the very first details I worked was actually over in a very affluent area, which they had what they dubbed the Spider-Man burglar. And he was crawling up the outside of two story apartments or two story houses. And going in through a second floor. And burglarizing that night. So I would get dropped off by myself. They would put officers because now that you're in metro, they rely on you to be able to work by yourself. So I remember crawling into some bushes and you don't knock on the door and say, hey, I'm going to be out in front of your house. I crawled into some bushes in front of a two story house. And I sat there all night long till the sun came up. Now that had to be fun. Oh, yeah. Fun when the lady brings her dog out to start sniffing around the bushes. Hey, now did you have any and she didn't I had no idea I was there. Well, did you tell her you were there? Pop up and go hi. It's me. Yeah, no. These were the stakeouts that I talked earlier about. This was something different.
"massa" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"You probably did this too when you were bored at night. You know, hey, let me file with some natural gas and below that shit up. I wish I thought of that. But more exciting than what I was doing, believe me. More exciting our Steve. So what year was it? June 17th, 1956, 19 46 or 1966. I'm going to say 56 because that was an excellent year as the year that Murph was born. Well, that you are now unfortunately not Michigan today. You are Ohio State. And you lost. I don't care. 66, June 17th, 1966. Oh, that was probably a bunch of hippies out there in 1966. Into the reading for today, kitty dominate Dana a so like RI. Well, now that we know that you're Owen or that you're three and 97, I think that's where you are. To our listeners, thanks for sending these in. This stuff is fun. This is fun. That's not small town police border. It's unbelievable. Keep sending us stuff, man. We'll keep recognizing you. Hey so Steve, yeah, you know, so as you see, we're kind of keeping this pretty tight. Because we have four hours that we set and talk with Rick Massa. Former LAPD S.W.A.T. offs or the guide, when you watch the videos and you see the thing about the north Hollywood bank shootout, this is the guy that was laying on the ground when the three S.W.A.T. officers came up. You talk about balls of steel, man. I'm telling you, buns of steel, these sons of bitches had balls of steel. And I don't know what to say. Well, I'm sure if you're old enough to remember this, and I think most of our listeners are, this was the big shootout at the Bank of America out there that the bad guys were all suited up in Kevlar, the cops were outgunned. They had their just their regular service weapons out. You know, back then, they weren't allowed to carry rifles out on the street, things like that only S.W.A.T. could do that. And these guys took advantage of the situation had already killed several people, but then if you remembered, I'm sure you remember seeing the videos I did when we first found out about Rick, I remember those videos and seeing those three guys go on face to face almost. They're like a car length and a half away from one of the bad guys. And long drawn out shootout, that last one, two and a half, three minutes, just that part of the shootout. This was a 45 minute shootout. But they're face to face with this guy. And these are the guys Rick is one of the guys. One of the three. Absolutely so, hey, but you know what? This is going to be an awesome story. And this really tells you, I mean, when you start seeing, when you hear his story about why he did what he did and what they were doing, folks, I mean, this just gives you a whole different perspective. And so, hey, you know what we ought to do is. By the way, this was probably our most requested episode people said, hey, can you get somebody from this? Well, guess what folks? We got them, and you're about to hear it and the only way you're going to hear it is for us to say Murph, are you ready to play? The biggest baddest, most dangerous game of all that game of crimes. Everybody. You know what I'm going to say. And this is true. Get instant out shut up and hold on. Bring on Rick maza..
"massa" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"S.W.A.T. officer Rick Massa talks about responding to the north Hollywood bank shootout. We're traveling at a high rate of speed, bumper to bumper traffic. Going our 18 miles from the academy to the bank. And our sergeant gets on the air and he says the shooting is at a Bank of America, these are the suspects we were looking for. They're heavily armed. They have body armor on. And the one thing that he said that I'll always remember, and that's as police officers, we don't like to hear. We don't like to hear that there's an officer down. I don't care if it's a motor officer that dropped his bike or what it is. We don't like hearing about a motor officer down or on off duty officer that gets in an accident or anything like that. And he put out that these are these are the offset these are the bad guys that we're looking for. And there are 5 to 7 officers down. Welcome to game of crimes. Well, everybody. This is going to be epic, awesome. And if there's anything that ever said, evil is coming and playing the biggest baddest most dangerous game of vault game of crimes. This is going to be it. And I am the host of the biggest baddest podcast on the Internet. Morgan Wright here with my co host, Steve Murphy, but you can call me a Murph. You were confused there for a second. I spent a long day, man. I'm in Florida. Who am I now? Well, you get down here and it's nice weather outside and you got to get out and work and, you know, my wife, I can't believe she expects me to go outside and do something around here. I know. How terrible. I'm retired. So don't you know who I am? She's like, hi, mister Muhammad. Michael trash. What have you done lately, huh? That's right. Let's go take the trash out. Hey, before we do get started though, let me just do a little bit of housekeeping because we want to keep this pretty tight because we got a lot to get to. This is going to be epic. This is going to be awesome. So just real quick, head on over to Apple reviews, or whatever platform you're on, look at it, and think about just giving us 5 stars this holiday season. Find.
"massa" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Massa required whether you're vaccinated or not. So talk to us also about unions and the role of unions and all this first of all, is it okay to require vaccinations with the U A. W R they resisting that? Are they with that? Are they united with you on this? Well, you know, First of all, I would say in working to make sure our workforce is safe. The U. A. W has been a absolute fantastic partner on being data driven following the advice from the CDC. And that's really I think what is allowed us to have the very successful protocols to not only protect lives but to protect livelihoods. And so you know, as we look at what the right thing to do, as it relates to the vaccine will work with the unions and and that will be something that we negotiate with them or work with them to decide what the right thing to do is you try to have the same rules for the our employees is for the salary we do. But we also really respect the fact that some of our war forces represented not only by the U a W but with other unions around the globe, and it's important In part to have that dialogue is part of the contractual process. Where is GM on bringing people back in the office? This is a hot topic all through US industry. Certainly in New York, there's a whole debate by banks. For example. Where are you in bringing people back to the office? Several months ago, We rolled out what we call work appropriately, and for those who don't necessarily have to be at work to do their jobs First, I want to give a big shout out to all the people. Whether they're in our fists are our manufacturing facilities, Warehouses R and D. Labs design Thank you for coming to work every day and following the protocol, so you can do your work safely for the portion of our workforce That doesn't necessarily always have to be in the office. It's work appropriately, and we're leaving it to the individual and their leader. Decide Where can you do your best work? And so far it's been very well received by our employees. And that was Mary Barra, chair and CEO of General Motors with Bloomberg's David Weston. Yeah. And coming up at a forensics expert Cindy Munro, CEO of Munro and Associates, and the.
"massa" Discussed on The Win-Win Effect
"Gave me to speak first conversation and she started teasing me that you can let me talk right. It's a so so there's like stop stops and she's like i have no effing idea what you just said but whenever it was a vision and if you don't have a vision you can't articulate a vision if you can't articulate a vision you can't share it with other people if you can't share it with other people you can't ask him what to do if you can't ask him what to do. They can't do what you want. No wonder you hate your job. I would hate working for you and my response was you're hired right. Whatever you do your thank you thank you thank you. You know so good for her actually saying that to you. Yeah yeah so so what we did behind that was. We did the hard work of cleaning up the vision. We fired seventy cents on the dollar of the customers that didn't fit into what our new vision was. And this is two thousand seven going into two thousand eight and then the recession hit and took another seventy percent like ninety one percent revenue drop Which sort of set us up to to have an idea what a global pandemic would look quite frankly but that guy got data. We're good to that place and we rebuilt from there and Running into coded prior preko bid You know we grew that that that initial vision We were able to stay inside that initial vision roughly two and a half times where we were willing took part in. And that's that's that's how. I mean how i stay hungry or whatever is i remember how miserable it was to hate my job when there was no reason to hate it. I've had more than one bottom like when you are to right like that's one thing but when you're at the bottom and there's nothing wrong it just sucks that's sorta works right i can. There's no like well. If i had this or had this like when you have mostly everything you want and you're still happy that's a really crappy place and that's where i was i had you know had a life that was way better than i deserved but i did want to go to work anymore. I had also similar or so. Freaking similar is insane. That was exactly the bottom for me. As i finally got everything i could potentially ever want out of life and i was like i don't want this. Shit sucks combine physicals board. That was more the feeling that i felt wasn't like i say i hated my job. I just hated the life that i created. Well i think what i mean. There's some people that probably have some strong opinions about what i did. And they've earned him for serve. But but i think i think is best. I can peril. Is i sort of lost myself in trying to be the ceo business owner guy instead of just like showing up and being helpful and trying to figure out where people want to go and how to help them get there his. That's what i lost. Once we got plug back into that. Then i mean there were still playing stakes to me. Made and lessons learned in all sorts of stuff mistakes at full speed for sure but but that i hated my job since then like i mean i could for you. Yeah i mean they're still shows to. You wouldn't be right now. You wouldn't be where you are right. If you didn't really enjoy mean you could tell when someone as a fuzzy like vision and a just not really tapped into their true selves. They're putting on. They have too many mass even know which one they have won. Let walking through my which which color massa today you know you have no idea. They're just being reactive through time. I actually wrote down probably a good eight years ago. i need..
Oregon Governor Kate Brown Issues Outdoor Mask Mandate
"Here's the announcement from the oregon governor. Kate brown today. I'm announcing that effective friday. Twenty seventh mass will be required in all public. Outdoor settings or physical distancing is not possible regardless of vaccination status massa proven to be effective reducing transmission and are unnecessary measure. Right now even some outdoor settings to help us fight coveted and to protect one another alright. Riddle me this batman. How many outdoor activities prohibit social distancing. How does that work. How in the world do you. So in oregon. You must wear a mask outside. And then she adds a caveat. Where social distancing isn't permitted or possible. What does that mean if you're out in the field if you're walking down the street i mean i guess. She means outdoor concerts. Why don't you say that in other words there is unless you're a seat. It's impossible to to not be able to socially distance it's it is coded derangement syndrome. They are making crap up as they go. And every we all know it and it's only these democrat governors who sound like escapees from a mental institution. You're gonna make people wear masks outside.
Hawaii LDS School Removes Student’s God-Given Agency
"So you are. Lds and the the kind of intersection here is very interesting because in the lds community. I would imagine that having hesitancy towards massa pharmaceutical intervention is a belief a lot of. Lds families have right. So how do they not grant you that medical exemption. i. I don't understand. I find that my health is my responsibility in your health. Is your responsibility right. So my heavenly father blessed me with the gift of agency. That was something. I was worn with something. I was given. I came here. And that's what i believe. I have agency and here in america were given liberty and it's the freedom to choose for ourselves so we have our agency in our liberty and that's not anyone take away from me as my own choice so for the school to say that. Oh i should just get a different vaccine or i get an mri vaccine. Because i should be fine. What how are you allowed to say that. But it's not your government taking that away or church sponsored school and that's where it's hard because i it's not the church but the church sponsors school so it's so it's confusing. You would think. At least. I would that of all places that would at least honor that kind of liberty would be an lds institution harsher and you appeal directly the president directly to the resume. Said no take your risk. You might've right. Thanks for shaw. Yeah and that was the hard part. And i do believe that. So it's not all kirk schools. Byu provo byu. I idaho and pathway. That's not something they've mandated but it is in
"massa" Discussed on The Know Show
"There is a writing computer programs for the automation so there is a strong component. Also just talking about it but actually doing it making it whack and finally the experiments also allows allow me to see Whether it actually makes a difference when i treaty walks. And so i mean what would what would outcomes of the initial project that you did the outcome of so in that massa's projects My task was essentially to provide a new methods for finding such Proof certificates so we we about The cost of running a program One can relax this question. Just say will the program always give me an answer for every input and are willing to just get the system stuck if we ask the wrong question and to find a an ultimate automatic use if you could approve the Vinyl the standard approaches we provide there is a template for a certificate at the template has holes that need to be filled in and The outcome was I used a technique called satisfied bitty solvency constraint solely on could a declarative programming swell too so described a what should the entries for the host of the certificate. Look line then. I ask startled tool finding solutions that the external to nut knew nothing about program analysis or a verification but it new a call to find solutions for such questions that that's incredible debt. You know i program doesn't typically do that is sort of like trained essentially to to find the find fill in the holes so if you were to put that into the into contexts And and if we look as a bigger picture how where. Where does this program or this of this process. Where does where does it become useful in industry or in in life in general so the main goal of this research is to improve the quality of software to make it easier for software developers to ensure that that that program does what it's supposed to be it's in having the right out puts are in always providing an answer providing an answer with a suitably little costs and the matters already lots in in some areas of live some software that's is run on an airplane for example to steer an airplane their loss but require the a constructors of plans to get a certification by a safety experts that software is safe and the crash of the software leads to a crash of the app plane to put it back that and.
"massa" Discussed on asymmetrical haircuts
"Idea the only see ahead follow at the time was african sierra. Because you knew it was the into your receipt. And i didn't follow other tiaras processes after that so i didn't even follow when they drafted the legislation for see. I was trying to pick up the pieces of my life. Strike in my life over after i came into exile but i received a call from a student leader of a high school. One saturday he said is this System massa washington you he you journalist assists. He says sister my group. The students got together. He said the asking for for liberians to nominate people. They won't see see. He says sister with sending your name because we saw the work you did. You are fearless or you. You're smart that's what you say is not me so they say we want someone that you to represent us. The students are sending your name in and as a hawaii but anyway that was a long story an ample sister. Sending your name in a daunting i want to do this because of disillusioned with liberia time. I have the civil war in our went to a lot so i was not ready to engage their country. I was trying to pick up the pieces of my life. In the united states of america i was in looking to be bothered with liberia. Okay but then this student in say you know what. Let me think about it. It's almost almost shock. My younger brother who was a student leader for another school. He called me and said system as we. Just send your name in the students. Just send in. And then if fema call one of the market women that i work with women advocates. She called me one morning and said disabled shitless. You send name of winning and my daughter. We ascend your niimi. So cut a long story short a gut nomination phone bureau in the community from civil society members and other people who saw my work who knew my work and then it was a newspaper editor. A guy who was editor of one of the papers. Not people that. I've worked but assist paper. He called me one thing. I am sending your name in you. Need to be on tlc. Because i know you you don't compromise the choose and he said you'll stubborn. Stop good goodway. He said we need some. And that's how i got. You sound like you have this amazing range of connections and i believe even now You you were very widely across the liberian community outside of the us so taking all of that. Experience into account massa. What's your realistic view. Will there be ever a war crimes tribunal in liberia. Actually when it comes to the issue of walkouts all idea michalis have doomed me. Miss optimistic is because i'm awesome existed for several reasons one. We wanted to happen. Because i knew it will help liberia. Su i'm a community leader. A need to provide hope for my people..
"massa" Discussed on asymmetrical haircuts
"From a bear today we are tackling one of the fruits of universal jurisdiction. The explosion in the number of trials. All over the world. That deal with the horace if the first liberian civil war it essentially spend the nine hundred ninety s and a quarter of a million people died. These trials are real phenomenon up until recently we'd only had the liberian president. Charles taylor this special court for sierra leone. Where he hasn't tried for anything actually did in liberia. We've got now. Finland were gabriel mccoy. Koi is on trial for murder. Rape and using child soldiers in berea while he was commander in the revolutionary united front. The he wasn't prosecuted by the special court before because he was one of the inside witnesses. Also this month in switzerland at the federal criminal court in the city of belen zona. We have the trial of allieu. Kosheh a former commander of the united liberation movement of liberia for democracy. An armed group whether we may better known by the acronym of ulimo kasha is first liberian to be put on trial for alleged war crimes committed during the first civil war and further back. We have jungled jabber. That was his toge- in the united states in philadelphia. He was convicted of lying on his asylum. Request so immigration. Ford basically about being commander in ulimo in the rebel group and how he was responsible for murder torture sexual slavery child soldiers to examine this trend of universal jurisdiction trial for liberian crimes and to give us insight in how these cases are playing back. Home we are joined by a minimum of sean from the swiss and jokes. He vetos maxima high emmanuel. Hello happy with hugely emmanuel is the head of the legal unit and senior legal counsel and that means that she's kind of the legal strategist and she'll tell us how much work goes into the research and development of these cases and bringing a suspect the attention of local governments and law enforcement and what kind of advocacy. She needs to do to push them forward. And we also have massa emilia washington. She's a former commissioner of the liberia truth commission and a former award winning journalist high buster. I guys matter observed the jungle jabber trial in her current home in philadelphia. And we're going to be asking her about that also about the results and maybe through some moves towards maybe some pressure towards war crimes tribunal in liberia. How this new rash of prosecutions is being seen by new generation. The new generation who didn't actually experience the civil war themselves but first we're going to go back to immanuel and can you explain a bit. The cases that are happening and what role is keeping us maxima playing in them. So i would say that everything started by the meeting of two persons of analogy actual director of civitas maxima and assembly with the girl for sister organization. The robot justice research project so alan was a prosecutor special could for sierra leone and emit assan told him about the leg of accountability neighborhood country liberia. And fact i've been to severe one. Nothing happen and and also in mine is experience in cambodia where it was a lawyer for the victims of the khmer rouge regime. Where in cambodia the end you are an important role in the documentation of of the war. So you had one ngo called dc cam lou yours..
"massa" Discussed on Impact Pricing
"A markup and that was okay right cell from a mere let's say theoretical perspective cost plus seems to indicate. Hey that's a fair price at the end. And i think even today in our world people look at cost plus as fair. Yeah definite so yeah because everybody understands that that was the cost. Of course the company it needs to source material needs to distribute stuff and and it's accepted. It's widely accepted by the way. I had once a really nice massa thesis from one of my students that was a question saying okay if i adjust prices and that was an online ecommerce setting so if i had just my prices and i'm not giving you the reason why i just justify prices so for example i increased cell. How would you then perceive this to be and then student kind of created like a fairness index. So you ask certain questions. And you're able to create this kind of index and you know what just giving no reason perform foul worse than giving the reason. Hey i had to increase because of cost. I had to increase because of competition so this actually scored better results with customers versus the scenario. Just saying nothing so because competition because certain market developments and cost seems to be something as a sphere for the consumers so that was quite an interesting resulted. I could easily see where blaming costs. Increasing costs is a is a reason that people would accept a price increase. Now here's a really interesting one because if you're going to think about cost plus defining fair how do you price software so the price of software is never fair because the incremental cost is always really close to zero four. Yeah mean with with software we we have seen the we have seen value again. Value based approaches perform like nicely with with customer so the very famous kind of ten x approach seems to solve the equation causing the narrative. There is hey look basically. I have fewer software. Let's assume it saves you like two hours of your daily work routine so two hours that you could like technically us. You know somewhere else so you have those opportunity costs and i am willing now to.
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Prof. John Flood, Professor of Law and Society at Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia. - burst 01
"Welcome to the site of accents podcast. Where we explore emerging ideas from signs, policy economics, and technology. My name is Gill eappen. We talk with woods, leading academics and experts about the recent research or generally of topical interest. Scientific senses at unstructured conversation with no agenda or preparation. Be Color a wide variety of domains red new discoveries are made. and New Technologies are developed on a daily basis. The most interested in how new ideas affect society. And help educate the world how to pursue rewarding and enjoyable life rooted in signs logic at inflammation. V seek knowledge without boundaries or constraints and provide unaided content of conversations bit researchers and leaders who low what they do. A companion blog to this podcast can be found at scientific sense. Dot. com. And displayed guest is available on over a dozen platforms and directly at scientific sense dot net. If you have suggestions for topics, guests at other ideas. Please send up to info at scientific sense. Dot Com. And I can be reached at Gil at eappen. Dot Info. My guests today's facade John. WHO's professor of Law and society at Griffith University in Brisbane Australia. He's also adjunct professor of law at Queensland University of Technology and Research Associated University College Under Center for Blockchain Technologies, he who suggests on the Bloomberg professional globalization of law and the technology in law. But come John. Hello. Thank you. Sure. Yeah. So I want to start with one of your recent people, professions and expertise hog machine learning, and blockchain redesigning the landscape of professional knowledge and organization. In invite you say machine learning has entered the world of the professions. The different impacts automation will have huge impacts on the nature of work and society. Engineering architecture and medicine or early and enthusiastic adopters. Other professions especially law at late you say at in some cases with leptons adopters. could you talk about you know sort of the landscape all? Of Law, profession and. They today in terms of opting these technologies. Certainly Louis interesting because it's a very old profession is. Often considered one of the. Original traditional professions along with medicine and the church. And in a sense law has used different kinds of technology might say I mean does it? Based around writing. And then the printing press and So on yet that. It's always being based on a craft. A skill which the individual person is that enables them to do, whatever is quote if you like and. said, there's never been a lot of room for any kind of automation. Certainly, the has been space for using. A people who are not fully qualified as low as about as paralegals, people like that, who will do a lot of repetitive work document checking and things like that and so on. But what will get into now is the situation where automation through machine learning. There's other kinds of artificial intelligence. is able to start constructing documents example contracts. Check dollop a documents for particular clauses and things like that mature they're up to date and this incense is. Replacing now, the kind of work that noise will do. So I think in some ways more more of of the profession of law is gonNA be subject to automation, but distinction I would many because I think it's quite important here is that A lot of what lawyers do. Is actually quite. Active that that that that the drafting contracts overtime or or they're reviewing documents to some sort or another or they're getting through particular. Negotiation. And so you know a lot of it is the same, but they build up the expertise through doing these same kinds of were over and over again and What we're now finding is that instead of having young lawyers coming in and doing what you might call the grunt work of checking documents and going through discovery applications where he goes through the size boxes of evidence to decide. which are the appropriate documents you want the emails, the invoices order, this sort of stuff that is the kind of work which is lending itself to automation. And, and so that his taking away a lot of the work which is used for trading purposes with young lawyers and is just doing it much quicker. will quickly I mean More efficiently in many ways and probably expensive much much expensive a Lotta. This work is being outsourced to you know legal process outsourcing India or Philippines South Africa places like that. So yeah, that's that's right and so in some ways, the group of lawyers who do the work which requires the skill, the judgment. Is Reducing in some ways. That pool is getting smaller. Yeah Yeah it's it's interesting. The the distinction that you make between automation. And in my job and let's call it decision making right which is you know a lot of work in the business side of this. So for example. in the nineties in large pharmaceutical company So you think about you know rnd. People might think it has really complex selection of programs that design of them, portfolio management, risk management, all those decisions. Genuine companies be say well, senior managers with lots of experience and intuition make those decisions really well right and so that's statement would automatically implied that machines can really do much there. But what we find in the mid nineties says that is systematic analysis of data make those decisions. Don't better. Actually, I've Tom to humans humans. Always seem to make decisions. These are typically bonding the decision. So if you go back and look at it, alternative experiment has not been wrong. So we have no date to say it was a good decision at typically. So human scaffold, fifty percents of making good decisions So do you know just throwing a coin or letting monkey make those decisions so? Yup We found that even complex decision making that humans hold. you know close to their you know kind of domain I'm not necessarily. So we have machines That could do that much better than I. Don't know there's an analog of that in in law I I. Think The may be actually I mean Two three years ago the royal. Society in England decided to arrange a working party on machine learning. One of the things that they put together a a roundtable on machine learning professions resolved to talk about that night and I talked about the history of professions in technology and. and. I think one of the peculiar things that came out to in relation to law is that law. Has always been a sort of on its own. If you think about medicine, for example, medicines always had the teacher hospital institution that sort of straddles the academic quilt and the practice walls and brings those people together and as a result. INCORPORATES loss of, scientific, work. Engineering work as well computing work and things like that. And that's been the first teaching hospital king into existence in in the French revolution in Seventeen eighty-nine. A long history of that. If you look at law, there was nothing equivalent to that whatsoever and there is in fact, actually a big gap between what academy does on what the practitioners in your do so that As a result as before law has come to this a quite late but what we are. Finding I think is that Certainly the management consultancy finding is that because of the nature of a lot of what goes on in legal office a remarkable amount of it can be automated. So what we are getting now is companies setting themselves up to do this automated work. So. We have companies which do nothing but contract our instruction formation sort of company. The typical lawyer would would say to a client Do you WANNA contract classes. Yes I want this for this. And loyal galway draft contract back with it, and then in the con- comes back against as I need another contract, you go through the same process. which is good for the lawyer but not necessarily good kind. What we're finding now is the company's not can think of a few of them that will, in fact, go into the company's show order contracts. Let's see the entire. Corpus of contracts you've got there and they will analyze them. And basically say, all right. We can create a new contract in automated way fairly easily it may need some modification according to special circumstances but on the whole, it's fairly standard and and they can do that INNOVA systematic world meaning the contracts are reviewed that checked. If they're going to expire marketing, you want an unable just the system will cope with that if you're. Yeah. So yeah. No No. No so I was just going to say yes. So that the distinction you make, you know in terms education sort of systematic graduate level education that because as you say, it is low in one sense of soft proficient. You say in called professions like made it to text reengineering this team has a strong concern ensuring that expertise applied in the public interest when as low little bit different from from bad and economics in some sense sort of in the same same vein we have now made economics at really odd. of mathematics you know north of analytics there. Whether they are actually useful from policy making perspective is left to debate but at least it has been an attempt to make this make economic video hard. So so I don't know A. Fascination has been in in law I very much that will happen in law. Oh there things are beginning to happen I mean let me just boob. At. One example I learned in that workshop that I mentioned the Royal Society held. With somebody from the engineering profession talking about. The difference in skills between people who above forty I'm below forty he said. If he he was about Forty Years Austin design an aeroplane, takeout pen and paper Pencil, and paper and. I don't know anyone under forty could do that would know how to do that go onto a computer program undecided there. So you can see that the incorporation of technology into the academy through to the actual. Occupation. Than phones and things is is already a standard and they're in law. It isn't law. As you said, it's still very much a soft skill although I will argue that there is a difference between the way nor is viewed in different parts of the world. So in the United States A law is I think more tilted towards the sciences. So low in economics is one of the big things in the. US. So you got a lot of people working in the of lower economics who might go onto antitrust work no competition work and things like that which across a lot of economics, mathematics and Statistics and so on. In, say a Europe Australia and so on. Law is more allied towards the humanities. And the classics. So it doesn't have that kind of scientific underpinning in that way. So anything that's going to change in these parts if you like is going to be something that's going to be imported from outside. And is going to have a very dramatic impact when whether it does An and I think that's yet to happen. I don't think there's been sort of Cambrian explosion. If you like in in law, the will be one I'm sure but but law has an advantage over engineering economics or the other areas you might. That's With the nature of the rule of law and absent justice is since law as a a way of ordering society is absolutely crucial to everything else. Then, Law and lawyers will say will look you know we have a special status here is different amid leave engineer. We certainly want to make sure bridges stay up. We don't want down but we can design different kinds of bridges. We can design different kinds of legal bills, but they're also the fundamental rules If you want to you know if you're an engineering company and you want to build a bridge in a different country, you're going to have to do it on the basis of the legal rules, which will be just vise by the lawyers according to the country's there in so on. So in in that was what? I might put in a special category if you live. Yea. Yea. Let me let me push NBA John. So. The. The conference that you mentioned you know the Internet is under forty and engineers at. So so one could argue you know from an engineering perspective could argue e- It sexually dangerous. To not use machines to build aircraft the goes you know all the technology that cap today actually help us make the trap lot safer. granted. If you sit down with a blank sheet of paper and Pencil, you might get the principal right. But, but the technology has advanced so much that you really have to use. Technology to do so in some sense, engineering is pushed back. that. I argue this myself then they were naive engineering school. I had a V exposed at my daughter bent to school. She used the same physics book. Twenty, five. meter. I argue that that is sort of backward because data speed no need for an engineer to really learn Newtonian physics anymore because it is prescriptive, it's deterministic can make machines, learn it very quickly and so why spend all? Right. So so then you know if you think about the the law field. I wonder if there is a senior argument that is to say Dan and tape really good lawyer casts lot of intuitions dot expedients to crap something Contract or a discourse, but then maybe the machine scan actually do it even better We haven't really tested that hypothesis yet. Right be almost have this idea that humans are always dominant. Or machines but that the not be true as technology lancers. So what do you think about that in the in the? It's a very important point actually because the. American bosses. being modifying its ethical rules recently to say that lawyers have a duty and obligation to keep up to date with technology. So we already know the technology is now a an important part and I have to say when when I say the word technology, I mean this at all kinds of levels from what you can do with Microsoft word for example, it strays plug ins all the way up to artificial intelligence IBM, Watson, or something like that So that if if lawyers become. A. Uses of technology whether this small firms or big firms or what have you a under the Aba now they they actually have an obligation to make sure that they are up to date. They can't just say we didn't know what we were doing. So I think in that respect, there is a there was a move. The other move that is taking place is actually the push from from the clients. Now, this you have to look into ways one is with corporate clients. The corporation seen US lawyers have to use noise if you'd like want their work done. PHILOS- money on Chiba they wanted to more efficiently They don't want the best piece of work every time they want something that works and they want officiant. UTA A and so on. So it was interesting I think a few years ago. The General Counsel Cisco. Actually made a speech. Saying that he expected his. Lawyers Law firms who worked for the company to be reducing their fees year on year. Now, that's the opposite of what lawyers normally do, which is to raise them year on year. So say that that's one push which is. Very profound push now, coming from the client himselves who are using the beginning to use their procurement departments in in the companies and things like that to help purchase legal services the other aspects which is just as important in this is if you look at the role of lawyers and individuals. So if you is what access to to legal services, it's expensive lawyers are not cheap they charge our money We don't know how to judge the quality of their work and so on. because. There was a credence which we just know that So. On this is where technology can begin to step in and provide services which are. Efficient and often quite. what very well for the individual saying that this. Technology can be seen to be improving access to justice a Lotta people. Yeah. Yeah yes. I want to come back to this. John. I think this is a very important point. So bent on put has a lot of uncertainty. Uncertainty maybe not not the right term, but it's called deterministic. It shows beatty ability and so the determination of quality it's not as easy as hard media India nearing or. Right business economics legal all sorts of well foreign that category and the application of technology sort of a different different meaning there but I want to touch on one of the things that you say in the paper, and that is you mentioned this before and that's about training training the next generation. So you savior regulating bodies professions are involved in the collection and reproduction of knowledge intended to be used by the entire body professionals, and so there was an expectation here that you know seeing it professionals. Is Providing the wisdom that knowledge mission to train the next generation now in a technology driven. regime. discuss vacations right. Our expert is going to be a computer engineer in the future. And so so how does that work from from cleaning and knowledge Asian will I think this is This is a crucial issue in it's one which the profession hasn't. Really. Got To grips with yet I think because you think of technology in terms of Predictive analytics a document review and things like this most law schools are not preparing students for this they may be a a a a causal to on some aspect of technology, but it's not something which lawyers themselves are learning. So I think what is going to happen is we're going to find a blending of skills occurring. So law firms will be sense having to bring in a range of technologists who perhaps have. A scales a straddle, both sides of the lines, the lawyers like this too I think I think we're going to find an avangard Who will begin to develop skills that allow them to talk to both sides of the line, the tech people and? Below people if you likes and there will be people who will acquire develop these skills as well but that's that's still some way down the line I didn't think we're anywhere near there yet, and part of the reason for that I think is that you know law is still a very highly regulated profession and and the regulators themselves are in the same situation they are unsure about what is going to happen and they also feel they have an obligation to. Not only ensure that. Customers clients and consumers are protected but in some ways, the profession is protected to if you like so. You know it's it's a it's a fine balancing. There I. Think. It's a fight balancing act and you'd say if the changing changing things. So going back, you know you care as an individual eighteen status of expert. Some form of encapsulation of knowledge and analysis occurs enabling professional experts, derived diagnoses, decisions, and conclusion wrapped late. and you make some distinctions. Type of learning that. Human? Beings. That the distinction between doing drive and become a gift and laster Yes yes. Yes I think that's important. So the the the the principle behind this is that Individuals can acquire a lot of knowledge in in various areas. So as I say learning how to drive a car, you learn how to change gear you though with the speeds. Braking different rates, conditions, and things like that. So. If you WANNA take that further and become a formula one drive or something like that. Then you have to undergo a very different kind of training and that kind of thing becomes a lot more collective rather than individual because you start to you're you're going to be in a group that is gonna be doing a particular kind of our driving. If you like everybody in the group has to understand what each other is doing that group, you can't have people going right a racetrack at two hundred miles an hour or thinking individually feel like they have to have a collective consciousness. About. How to drive in that situation? That's nothing like how? You and I might drive. I'm not saying we bad drivers just saying spreading very different. So I think professional work is not. That different from this in a way. So once you you can go through school and you can do your law degree and you can learn your low. We can learn you engineering's this applies to or professions really. But in order to become a professional in order to become somebody who can operate function within that. Group if you like you then have yourself have to develop collective consciousness and and one way of thinking about it is that we we can kind of tacit knowledge. This assorted knowledge you learn on the job from people, which is not always articulated in a precise formulate kind way but it's something you pick up from the way. Somebody does something you just recognize aw that that's how they've done that might not be. Written down anywhere or anything like that. But you know that's different from now exiting differently from the way that wise doing I think X.'s doing it better I and you and you just, and you can absorb that. That's what I mean by this kind of tacit knowledge and that comes about from the professional context. As how the professional context develops becomes absolutely crucial to how you introduce new ways of doing things new my daddy's new skills new outlooks if you like and I. Think this is where we're on the cost of of this beginning to develop I mean we we know it's got to be done quite how it's going to be done. is yet to be. So. So let me make a statement John and I want I want your reaction to it so eat in hard sciences eight years against again medicine. Expertise has about a consistent happy of remorse. Whereas enor- economics and business in general, let's say expertise is not about the ability to apply rules but to deal with. and at and if that is true, it has lot of implications rate. It has implications as to how we might divide work. Between. And machine in the future. And the skills that universities need to impart on on on new graduates are also quite different. So I always argued in the business. engineering contexts that universities having changed the dog they get mentioned before they're using the same. Using the same. Out Thirty four years without asking the question are those skills relevant, anymore or more importantly watch. Really relevant for a human being in the future rate. do you agree with that that expertise assert more about dealing exceptions apply? Putting it actually. I. I can see the logic behind what you. Saying I think what distinguishes? A good professional whether it's a good engineer good architect or good lawyer or doctor is is somebody who has a certain? This may sound strange but it's the. Imagination. Creativity. about. Kind of flare that allows them to function on the nausea they they've got and developed over the years and the experience. Gathered from Nova pitching what they'd be doing over the years and so on, and it allows them to see around things in ways which they perhaps would. I can give you an example if you like a law. So I'm in in Germany and some other countries. For example, there's a particular way of bundling together mortgage securities I I won't go to detail about this, but this statute that enables you do it. And then you can sell these securities and get money. In certain countries, the UK, the US, and so on. This, NICI. So in a sense to put this kind of a a deal together it. Couldn't be done if you live. So a bank came to one of the large English law firms and said, look we wanted we want to replicate this in in the UK, want to set a market this we're not the statues off there. What can you do and what was interesting was that the law firm then went back to first principles lawyers who were looking at this went back I suppose they looked at some vape basic areas of law matter your trust. And contract from what have you? I'm from that they constructed elite supplement that looked very much like the one in Germany, but without stat sheet and they tested it and it worked. Out To be credibly successful. So much so that the German government started German legal profession started to complain because they said. You can only do this by statute and these we find a way of doing it three. I suppose using law and there it is an they were vowed shops by but that was a particular example if you like of of what you were talking about, they took the exceptions they went back to first principles and said you know or How would we get? This is where we gotta get to, and this is a way right at the beginning what are the steps we need to take and and? And that's what a good loyal will do if you. Right right? Yeah. So that's very important point. So you in your paper dawn as the DREYFUSS and rice note that the proficient performer immersed in the world of skillful activities sees what needs to be done. But decides how to do it. So as we move into a and other technologies, I think it's important point it is. Right from Dad benefactor culture we have been using humans as you mentioned before in lots of with meted activities big not designed for humans I would I would contend enjoy doing things over and over again, and if you had thought of doing that, yeah, because they have to do it for living right and so so we should be moving to word It would where anything that is with pita on delegated to the machine at automation in the bottom of that and Appealed autonation you can have intelligent automation you can have you know reinforcement learning those types of things you have some aspects of intelligence into the into the two. And deploy humans Don't Miss. They're really good at in some case. I'm. So you know we've been studying the green for ages be our no close. It feels to understand mother. Heck it does You know it's not neat learning it. Oh, BBC of. thirty years ago as see that person again, you could see you could you could have a feeling. Then you've seen that before and and what the brain has done actually not only as he that pattern but also age that matter intuitively for thirty years and say, yes, that face I, guess before. and. So there are some superpowers the brain has reaped have been applying the all all. So for a technology might allow. Look I. Think Technology will allow us to incredibly complex things without having to think about too much I. Mean if you look at the way a port functions, for example, any major port these days they've got millions of containers and ships going through them all the time. So there's a lot of paper going through the you those charter parties, bills of lading guarantees. So the lot of legal work that's being done it, it's all quite standard stuff. I mean everybody. KNOWS, what needs to be done and so on. Now, some people are beginning to think while the best way to handle a port if you like I for everybody should know is to put everything that's going on in the poor into a blockchain so that you can see the whole supply chain. You see when something comes in, you can determine when the goods are being offloaded. When they're being shipped, you can stop making the payments as a result of the. Operation of the smart contracts if you like, and the whole thing would be just one quite seamless. In some ways without that much human intervention really just need oversight Some bits of coordination so on. But at the moment is still a a lot of humans are vote in that shipping people, law people, all sorts of things which is. I think insane. That's a waste of resources. We know that there are people who have all kinds of problems that require that creative flair she like as so why waste money on the routine stuff when you could develop skills to the the real need if you like in that way? Yeah Yeah. So I, want that some that bit that John Blockchain, for example, as you mentioned. So so one reason especially in the professions like law and business humans have an advantage justice dimension of trust. and you know at least our generation we don't really. At eighty level, right. So so having that. Human human touch is still extremely important for us. Now, technologies like Blockchain, for example, actually allows that trust to be tensely decoupled, right? Yeah, and I think I think you're right. Look I. Think I mean one of the reasons we make contracts is because We, don't trust each other. So we we devised these documents with all the conditions in them. Something goes wrong. This is what will happen things like that and so on. What are the interesting things? You know people really rely on contracts are met you. You draw up a contract. And the to business people stick him in the drawer I never look at again less something really really fundamental goes wrong but they know sumit doesn't that never look at that again. So you say value of the contract, what did it actually do if you look at some of the Asian countries say like Taiwan or parts of China, you have a assistant coach Guanxi, which is where people developed effective relationships by knowing each other over a period of time around business that allows them to develop trust it. So You know there are different ways of of handling trust, but we we seem to spend a lot of time on trying to minimize something You know which we don't really do a lot of if you like. So I think one of the advantages of of blockchain is that it just it removes a lot of this from from the equation if there's certain things you know that can happen. as a result off if this thing that systems. Lead happened And you know. As, long as you've got oversight and you can see what's going on than. You don't need to be too concerned about it. It will just do what it needs to do in that way and So. Again. That's still very much in the early stages, but we are seeing situations where supply chains A shipping goods from one country to another can actually be done under smart contracts through a blockchain. Technology if you live. That that is now happening I associate goodful dealing with things like gum counterfeiting if you're. Producing. Particular high-quality could site move our phones or particular pharmaceutical products and so on you know it's one way of guaranteeing the quality of the product is you couldn't I say look you can examine the whole supply chain or the data is there. And you know his Eq- code look at it and you get the whole thing going all the way back The. Again, issues around that if you're dealing with the digital. Is Much easier once you start dealing with physical products then you have. A question of how do you get that first initial digitization of the physical if you'd like to goes on so though some people I know here in Australia who? Run A company called Beef Ledger, which is trying to export beef straight beef to China using the blockchain supply chain, which will. Guarantee the security, and the quality of the goods to the Chinese consumer APP because having problems with this before. But I will tell you now do doing something like that does require that the people you are dealing with. You're going to set this up with You have to have a trusting relationship with you before you can set up a technology that will do away with the So we're still in that. That's really early days. I think another a lot of time way to go right Yeah, but the technology works it. Clean potential one could argue contracts exist because they probably known performance if you have a technology that drives that probably the of non-performance zero, then you can actually get rid of for contract. Yeah limit. It is. Not. Goes back to that earlier point I made that. Most most contracts are fairly standard. You know a routine things they're there to. Record a series of transactions payments that have gone on between people without the to do much. If you like you know once you you're you're doing the business, the contract just kind of records that in perpetuity. So the small contract just takes that into a different area and an an actually does the whole implementation and execution without people to be involved in that too much and there's something goes wrong. But if it if it all goes right then back it is done you need to you don't you think about it Right. Yeah. Hasn't been jumping to another are forthcoming people globalization law at. A time of crisis in the? Global Lawyer and so in the say Nikolai Condom Nieve a Russian economists in the nineteen thirties believed the worst economy operates long sixty year cycles Then he called K. Braves. And you safeguarding coronavirus analysis, the fifth psycho young's from nineteen eighty to twenty thirty. It's you save twenty, nineteen forthcoming John You might have. I think so I think say because I, tell you off the what's happening this year I thought my good I couldn't My God. I was just. Owners because you know a contract device these waves up into into what he calls four seasons spring summer or winter at, and we're in the winter off this fifth cycle if you like this is. All the bad stuff happens and he's news war. Famine Disease I think wait a minute that sounds Yes yes. That's exactly right. A. But one of the interesting things about contractors was that you know he he a because he's A. Solid economists are installing a dip executed. By the way you know he he got fed up ninety that was the end of Nikolai unfortunately but he. He said instead of know if you like the ownership of the means of production are being the determinate for changeover from system system, he said it's it's technology and and that the technology will drive you out of the downswing of the last cycle into the upswing of the new cycle, and and the way that works is the win. You're in this kind of winter period because of the kind of economic. Gloom pervades if you like people tend to hold back in subsurface vestment in terms of technological innovation of what have you and so a lot of energy resources, resources, money capital if you like builds up to a second point when people say we're GONNA go for this is this is it? And that's when if you like technology comes to the fall on, really drives it forward. So from that perspective, what he's saying is that you know come right about twenty thirty. If. Things are going slowly now regarding technology they're going to speed up. In. This period and that's when it will. You know really also take take off and people have looked back over our preceding cycles and they've you know it works if you like not just their. Fantasy theory there are also the people who do Cleo dynamics in history these the quantitative historians and they've done a similar kind of analysis of historical periods and said, yeah, you know there are all these citrical. Processes that take place even revolutions occur and big upset occurs and what have you and and. One of their Perspectives which I find quite interesting is that they say one of the reasons for revolutions come about is caused a lease beginning to compete with each other and and an an I look at say trump in in America and I look at the Democrats and I I I would say Modine, India I look she in China and different groups of elites who are engaged really profound struggle for the future of their countries if you live. Out which again is leading to this kind of potential eruption of activity and a new ways of doing things. Yeah. It makes a lot of intuitive sense gone. So one way to think about this also. There are a lot of excesses. So innovating go good their excesses in the system people to believe that invincible they changed assumptions about. because they don't see any. and. Financial markets to right. So these cycles and real real mass that uniquely talking about you can see the. Happening in the financial markets more clearly. But what he's saying is that he happens mortgage and you ask in this paper in two thousand, nineteen for in many ways go. Crystallization off the settling ketone economic forces lost throat ear Kublai doomed as populous. Separates nationalism and lead clients and I think they have that we have probably the answer to that. But you see I think. One of the points I was trying to make an in in this paper walls that Global Law. If you like is is, is the a kind of synthesis off chaos? How do we bring some kind of order to chaos now once you start seeing the undermining? Of his global institutions, you see trump was withdrawn from the W. H. O.. He's he's are criticized NATO he he won't have the do with the International, Criminal Court and so we've got this kind of real life tension now between a an international legal order that's being built up since the Second World War both Ekit economic and legal order is Global And so we can't just a radical globalization I mean even even with covert, we can't eradicate mobilize ation we've got to. Handle covert the Kobe pandemic on a global basis. Otherwise, we'll. We're lost it retreats to a national. Approach is not gonNA. Work? We'll be defeated in that race is going to be global. Might. Be One of my questions in in paper was will who are the people who are going to be doing this? Kind of bringing the the order to chaos if you like and that made argument that it's got to be the global lawyer. And this is a person who not only understand their national legal system but also able to communicate with lawyers and officials. From around the world if you like. To be able to develop a kind of common. Language common discourse that enables them to stop putting these things together are, and it's not just a simple massa of saying mathematically, it works this way or not. It requires the kind of pulling together of people, but it requires that sort of common understanding which. Comes out of what I was saying about this idea of testing knowledge you know as you got this kind of professional consciousness you know how people ought to behave and how they will interact with you, and then that enables you to be out of bizarre to predict how you can do things and so on and so on. That basis I think we can operate kind of global order. It had a a below the institutional level if you're not kind of private. As opposed to the public according and that will put three. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah you know I the limit John I don't know if you think this way I limit one could as. Want to stay need for. Countries what does the need for legal system differentials? We set this up with the premise that it's easier to manage small chunks. one could also argue with Edmund Affect. -nology that you don't need to segment this debate that we have done. which might make these types of issues you know. See where you're coming from and I'm going to say yes or no? Yes, I think the home range of of questions that can be handled by the technology the ones we got pay I don't chain, etc. I don't I didn't see any issues there but there are a lot of decisions that needs to be made a book in terms of putting things together and resolve disputes that can only function at a human level because it's not. These are not decisions that are simple binary decisions. If you'd like, it's yes or no it's it's often a lot more nuance than complex about I mean, one of the resources in the World Kiva Zero System, the world amendment which is being fought over if you like is water, a water is probably one of the most valuable resources anywhere and it's you often find that rivers and things like that sort of flow between countries, they form borders. And and you are you know people if you look at the Nile, ESL start stopping in Sudan throwaway down to the Mediterranean. So he goes to countries all three countries, east European and then into Egypt's and so unwell well, who has the right to put it dime at a particular place and things like that all of that has to be cooled in act. You see a not going to be done at a human level that that's what caused the skills in negotiation judgment interpretation understanding if you like of the other people, no machine can do that I got. Yes before we conclude, I want to touch on one other thing So in the paper, you say as technology and culture intersect more and more. Ethical conundrums will intensify these raising questions about the rights and obligations of robots. And go beyond as moves. Three laws of robotics in two issues of rights of all moon. Algorithm, stem serves. So this is this is an area that be Kevin babies even even really form some notions allowed rights of all modes at rights of a are. Sai, gets more sophisticated. Yes. Yes. I do. I, mean I think this is one of the issues we already know some of the problems with algorithms and and you know can we can be are they transplanted from you see what's going on the ethical issues around the construction and implementation of algorithms and things like that. But I I I think looking into the future we all going to rely on things like robots. And various kinds of machines so much more so that if you look at a country like Japan, which is a a an aging population such that it doesn't have sufficient younger people to look after the people who need looking often. So machines, I'll be part of that, and that means people will stop forming real relationships with machines and and so that's when I would say. Okay. So let's think about how we View a potential rights of machine that we give. We give rise to humans. Yes. We know that we give rights to animals. Now we've also given rights to viz in forest in some countries as well as so machines I think our. Next logical step you know do we do we treat them with respect Let me give you one. Very classic example yet the production of. Robots for sex if you like is a major industry at the moment, some manufacturers say they want to program them say that people can act out rape fantasies will do we want that I? Mean you know should we be at first of all? You know? We should be having people behave in this particular kind of way, but even an uncertain if you do it against another human being, you'll be punished for it and you say we'll a machine is a piece of property you should be you should be doing that but I'm getting to think that maybe a machines should be treated with dignity say that we are treat ourselves with. Dixie. This a kind of reflexive situation here what we? Do to machines we do to each other, and they may again due to US depending on how they evolve and and move forward in that way is a very contentious issue. A lot of people would reject that right out of hand I agree I think we've got to stop thinking about stop dining forward because I. think we're going to at some point again. I. Don't know when. But at some point we will be having to deal with that. It's a it's a very important point. Joan. So if I understand you correctly, you know that the rights to animals the rights to inanimate. INANIMATE things like Lubers The recent those exist is because of its effects on humans and can see video a clear link in the future we would see a very clear link between a algorithms and robots ended affects on human. So this is not me You know each not fantasy in the sense that yeah, robots should have rights, but rather it's a more conceptual question. Any fraud did not have rights each going to cabin negative I I think that's absolutely true. I mean just to highlight that if you like this firm called Boston Dynamics that produces. Robots and they produced these videos of these. Now, these robots are resistant being pushed over and things like that, and it was quite interesting because a lot of people say all you can't treat them in this way. This is awful and so what I mean that that's the answer for more fighting to to the extreme extent. But it I think you know on the basis what you're saying, you know how we Oakland. Hold human beings accountable to each other in an increasingly complex world machines have become part of that. We can't just have them all sitting on the edge as though they're not part of who we are, what we are and how we do things. Right. So. Incursion Johnny fuel sort of look forward five years. At. The intersection of law and technology. But you think people see sort of the biggest. I. Think you'll see it two wins. On the you know for the individual The individual, you're going to see a lot of them just interacting. With artificial Tennessee, say lost questions about what my rights for this how do I deal with a tendency agreement? How do I complain against a producer company or something like that or that's going to be automated? is fairly straightforward to do and and it will only need A. Minimal. Amount of human inside of. An intervention if you like. At the other end at the. In I think we're GONNA see more and more technology coming in because as those basic functions that are. Being, carried out by junior people or or paralegals or things like that are the ones which are going to be increasing, automating creasing. I'm. We will replace the humans and just let machines do that because there's no point in wasting human resources on that whether that means we need fuel or more lawyers That's an open question I think it will that we need different kinds of lawyers We will need Roy Moore to logically aware much more sophisticated. They don't it's be programmers or odors or anything like that, but they need to have a quite a a a a strong understanding and gross what's going on in technology in that way if you like so. Yeah. We can definitely see an. Yeah, so I, think you mentioned the so from a structure perspective in all forum DC law firm sprucing to word. It a group of equity partners. Around it by machine so to speak well, I. Think. I was in that paper or another one I. I'm S-. Forecast. Law. Firms. Being. Distributed decentralized we'll tournaments organizations running on a blockchain with with the various people. into setting when they will no I. Think the law firm is still a very strong and powerful is Shutian, that's not gonNA disappear straight away. But certainly the numbers of partners who control things will shrink. They'll that will get smarter as proportion and yes, they will be surrounded by machines and they surrounded by people who are servicing those machines. Your excellent. Yeah. Thanks for doing this weekend. John really enjoyed the conversation. Thank you very much. It's been great fun and very
Happiness is Like Shopping For a New Home
"Now let me ask you a question. Have you ever found yourself? Meandering around had an idea. And then kind of went off after Kana sort of and it well okay. Let me get to the story here. So my daughter. Looking for a home I've been looking for a home over the past couple of years not right now on a world where I am right now but it had a couple of folks who have called me recently, they're looking for homes as well. Something to do with the interest rates the way they are being seriously low and folks are moving around. So a friend call me and she had been living in her forever home for two years that was about it. And I listen really closely about what was happening about what was going on and everything she was going through and just smiled. I. Smiled have you ever done that have you ever heard somebody and you're like? I have heard the story like ten thousand times before maybe more importantly, you've lived about ten thousand times before. and. That's exactly what I heard and this wisdom was coming to my mind. We call it Scott logic around here. The wisdom was this. I just one thing. Whether it's home. Whether it's getting happiness or just about anything else in the world, it always seems to go on way. It happens it. Why is that? I had I know the answer that I too. I thought for a minute I was going to stop myself but occasionally I surprised myself. Or human. It's a very complicated world, and if you're like me, it's very complicated. Mind that inhabits your head. or human the wind blows humidity goes up and down the rain comes down the sunshines and then we gotta go what am I gonNa do with all this stuff I got a yard demo. It's confusing. Isn't it sometimes? So, it's just human. So just accepted as being human but Scott Superhuman maximizing human potential sure yard, but you're still human. After a long week, even superhumans get tired and have a beer on Friday night. Or Two. But sometimes, you want something different, right? An idea pops into your head. And you don't WanNa sit there on the fence and drivers crazy 'cause you got three choices you know that right? Longtime ago if an idea pops into your head, you're either GonNa go do something about it. You're not going to do anything about it. Or you'RE GONNA send the middle and go what am I gonna about it. The first two are cool because either you do it or you don't the one in the middle will drive you crazy. But what happens is people get an idea how it's in my head. Now it's lingering around there right side talking to you all the time. You may not know what you mean by you want something different. You're the boss of you right. And since you're the boss you I know you said things and thought things before you really don't know what the hell you talking about. Listen I I'm like you I really don't specifically know what I mean by that. I will tell you having done what I've been for very long time when people call me and their specific about what they want. It's really cool because it's either really okay. I shouldn't say this but you know sometimes you hear people specifically like, what are you thinking? But at least we have a starting point. Or maybe sometimes it Massa great idea. Go do just like that. But when they're in the middle kind of meander around, they don't really know what they mean by that. That's Kinda hard to do. So this is the trajectory the here's what happens when when you are out there. This is why happiness is kind of like shopping for a new home. You want some different. But you don't know quite what it means. When you say that? then. What happens? You settle into. I'll I'll know when I see it mode and what do you do you start exploring? You'd out there I love that part. and. Then your search becomes all consuming it's like buying a house. If you've ever shopped for a home, you know it's like, why have no really idea what I want? I don't even know where I wanna be not really sure exactly how much I could afford I'm not sure how much space I need I. Don't Know How long I'm GonNa live. There are the schools good and everything else. I don't even know by God. There's nothing on the market those sellers they went all the money in the world I don't have that I'm giving up now. Tell me I'm not right on that one. Your search becomes so time consuming. You start to get stressed out a lot when you're going after your dreams by the way. And what do you do? Most people stop. But then something happens you're stopping you're. Not GonNa Change Darn thing I don't care what I was thinking even though I didn't know what I was thinking I'm not going anywhere I'm stopping because you know why I don't even know what I was looking for, and now it's all stressing me out. I can't do this anymore and then suddenly Tam perfectly the perfect opportunity. The fill in the blank perfect house perfect happiness perfect job perfect whatever the thing that you were looking for even though you didn't know what you're looking for. It shows up and you. Cool see I can see now that's what happens next.
Life on Estonia's 'corona island'
"Our European island off the coast of Estonia has been labeled as corona island after becoming the hot spot for the virus and being placed into strict quarantine the first covered nineteen cases on the island of Saaremaa and emerged a month ago after sports event was held there with the team from Italy now health officials estimate that Harvey island's population have virus it's the story of what is going on from a Europe reporter Gavin lake this is the sound of a volleyball match on the island of Saaremaa in the beginning of March one and a half thousand people packed into the island's only sports center to watch the local men's side against an away team from Milan the power volleyed Malone who scored and it was a short time after that that some of the some remote team fell ill in the island's first coronavirus cases were reported this game is widely seen as the main reason why summer mall has become a hot spot for comfort nineteen cases in Estonia and what the population of thirty three thousand have been quarantined from the mainland no one can travel in a leaf obviously we can't get to the island because of the restrictions but the islanders have been recording for us how they're coping hello Susan here from Saddam Susan Ryan who used to work in an office for cooperative selling the items produce now she's delivering food and locally made produce due to do so we are now one of the neighborhoods hearing thought I Massa capitalize we can say and waiting for our clients to come downstairs and then on the back pressure is said to have safely without any contact with all nonessential business yet many of Susan's friends lost work after the outbreak but she says they've quickly found it elsewhere people who have to change for example from my hairdresser is now the one labeling the packages in the local meat factory and nobody sitting at home thinking that okay let's see what tomorrow brings people are taking actions hi I'm new here all recipes dining into the daily crisis intermediate conference he's on the team set up by the local authority to work out how best to help islanders get through life in quarantine she says they've been through a locked down before the very first time since of interpretation people need permits to enter at this time it is said because of our free well to protect our people and their health another Islander Toma Vicky recalls for us as he walks around the capsule Carissa all he tells us how his hometown has changed in the background is the main square grandson usually bustling around mid day like now today there are of course
Preacher to Pope Francis: Coronavirus reminds us we're all mortal
"Pope Francis has prostrate himself in a nearly empty St Peter's basilica in a good Friday service in a sign of obedience humility the pope heard the papal preacher Savy covert nineteen pandemic has alerted people to the danger of thinking themselves all powerful as Francis listened attentively the Reverend ready aero counselor Massa said that it took nearly the smallest and most foremost element of nature of virus to remind us that we are mortal and that military power and technology are not sufficient to save us the prayer service held without rank and file faithful as part of containment measures against the viruses spread
"massa" Discussed on KNST AM 790
"Is visible so they're really on our page which they didn't used to be I mean they they absolutely clear that there is such a thing as invisible matter in fact most of the universe is invisible Massa but one particular paragraph on the NASA site really interested me and I'll just read a little bit of if I may thank you please another explanation for dark energy it says is that it is a new kind of dynamical energy flow it'll field something that fills all of space but something whose affect on the expansion of the universe is the opposite of that matter a normal energy some theorists of names this quintessence after the fifth element of the Greek philosophers now we've not mention that George is the group the fifth element of the Greek philosophers is it so I've got to also signed his name to off to that Greek word AT T. H. E. R. or where is serious that is really the basis of alchemy it's the basis even pass more importantly of yoga philosophy the concept of prong of the concept of chi and so even on the NASA site and I think this is a wonderful thing you have a move or suggestion anyway and the need to move towards these mystical spiritual concepts in order to explain matter in the universe and in terms of your foes their ability to to to disappear the concept that Helen shaman came up invisible aliens you that was a pretty lady it was interesting and unique for her to say that wasn't it really was and it really struck me and it's absolutely in line with certainly what doctor king was saying when he started our organization in nineteen fifty five but I think was a coming together I mean even you can you can look at a moral the talks organization not the Catholic Church and you'll find caught the late cardinal I'm sorry Monsignor Balducci G. who who was very close I'm sure you've covered him before yes but he he you know looked at the possibility of beings with less material substance than ourselves another key phrase my very different courts I'm not you know I know the pope was offered to baptize aliens I don't think that the queue of full that that but in a way it's a good thing they're opening up the door to this possibility and everyone needs to move I think in that direction I don't think one can own to the great spiritual all scientific questions now without addressing life in on other planets since all this has been going on the media coverage is still a little questionable with regards to your phones don't you think I couldn't agree more on may I give an example of this on Sunday this just gone two days ago and the biggest selling newspaper in in Britain and actually I once wrote a front page about an encounter between the equity of the of that you could read impress the husband of the queen with at an alien intelligence was on the front page of this type is called the sun but I noticed on Sunday they had something like nine whole pages about prince Harry in Macon all my god yeah was everywhere I don't know what she's hit the news that will they she has since she's had some of our cable outlets and stuff like that so I had to go all the way through to page fourteen having gone through the whole pages about this in and to find a tiny little article just about three inches long which actually revealed the fact that the US navy has admitted they've got secret footage of a UFO encounter and I think that illustrates you're very point George I mean no the media still haven't caught up thank goodness for programs like well you'll program I think is is is absolutely crucial and all will and we keep pushing it and all the small podcast other talking about it they all help to indeed I mean everyone is putting out the truth and it's still not always easy and you can still get some even abuse put which is amazing to think but it's not in tune with the public and I think that making a big mistake because one editor in in in what we used to call of your fleet street which is where a lot of the newspapers were plain to me when I I brought him some provable truth any didn't dispute it was provable truth about UFOs and if there is society but he said Richard he said we aren't here to publish the truth we're here to publish the truth the people want to read and that I think is is the essence of it it's it's what people want to read that they will what they think they want to read because actually I don't think there in June when you think that there was a poll which you may well of cover the Gallup poll last year last September that sixteen percent of US adults think they've seen a UFO which is over fifty million people event that's the entire adult population of Britain probably this huge Richard we're gonna take a quick break we'll come back with more on coast to coast AM never miss a detail on.
Why Words Matter in an Amazon Listing
"Why was actually Massa. In an Amazon listing. Have you got any evidence that they actually matter. So they matter for for a whole variety of reasons so you know obviously the words that you include are actually going to impact your indexing. So you're not using the right keywords than nobody is going to find you but they also can really impact the bottom line of your business and they do that in a way that lasts for as long as you're doing it. Obviously you want to continue to be updating. You're listening to stay relevant. But by properly optimized senior listing you can significantly impact the bottom line of business. I was actually speaking with a client recently. And they're not selling seasonal products at all We work on their lists around June. At that time they already had a really good conversion rate. They were staying at twenty five point six percents after they updated their seen their conversion rate increase and stayed increased to thirty thirty four point. Seven seven percent Thirty seven point five percent increase for just that one thing that they did. That's not even talking about driving extra traffic so that means that more people that you're already having come to your page whether they're coming organically or through any of your other marketing efforts. More of those people are going searching more than one in every three people are going to click ads ads awesome. I love your precision where it took him about before the show that I'm kind of Ebbe intimidatingly thorough as as a an interview and that's sometimes true because I've been unfocused with. UK basically. Not What do you do again. But they kind of like us and tell me a little bit about something on Amazon like really general but seven point five percent or whatever it was to the second decimal place I like it but so tell me about this. I liked you position that speaks some of my at my cheers. Pose the pretty body with thoroughness. To to put a lightly my wife would call it the former thing. But you're right these details demanded but that's not a subtle jump. Anyone twenty five percent to thirty seven accent as you say almost a quarter of people who visit the listing bind to a third a lot of extra money this as you say pretty much pure profit. Because they'll be paying for the traffic and one full more of the either because they've they've worked hard to launch their products and got organic ranking andled as to advertising so tell me about that optimization was purely a words change was that woods plus image change so that was everything including reassessing the keywords that we were using that was also creating an amazing core listing. I believe at that that one would also upgraded to ABC that time and then we created some fantastic info for graphic text. As well as what I mean by IMPO. Graphic texts is not just letting those images Dan on their own but actually creating some text to help. Make sure that the message that you want to get across is getting across with every single fixture on your this. Yeah and that's something. I want to dive into because I do think that integrates text is more to it than meets the eye because I was working with the the day and actually he puts so most Texans images I said look you know this is is going to be unreadable on mobile. It doesn't look good. It's not making a point. That has not boiling down your thoughts and then bullying them down and then boiling down again right. I know one famous copywriter use to as I understand it Charged six times as much for headline as he would for the first few paragraphs progressive copy which is interesting right because the rewriting semi sweat. Yes I would. I would argue that the fewer words more challenging the job and just the point of thumb or rule of them for IMSA graphic checks. If you're needing to zoom in to read the photo then you probably are including reading too much tax than you need to reel it back so you don't need to overload people with something. The text should really be supporting the message and helping to emphasize wine line. Or maybe a couple of key points shouldn't be bouncing all over the place giving them the full text heavy at. That's not appealing absolutely but a lot of people do thank you for flagging that up. I think it's a very good good point. That all right so coming back to this question of do words matter and it sounds like a a dumb question because obviously to some degree they do but I mean the sixty four thousand dollar question I suppose is to what extent was compared to images. I'm not the kind of impossible taste. Unless you're going to see some really weird split test where you write some really horrible listings with beautiful face cross but in your experience. Have you got some numbers or you'd have to give it to the second decimal place but some kind of experience case studies indicate the power of words as distinct from photographs for example if you have split tennis different tax but kept the photos the same so what I'm talking about with this particular client. Actually they didn't create any new images and they didn't upload any new images Obviously a updating the ABC is going going to impact things that the images were the same so that was really just looking at the power of words for that particular example. And you also. I don't WanNa be thinking about the different type of shoppers. So it's different people words matter in different degrees right and so you WanNa make sure that whatever ever kind of shopper. person is that you're going to be able to give give them what they need to make a confident choice that your or product is the correct product for their needs. And of course they're going to be the casual visuals shoppers but maybe visual shoppers also have a few key points they they really need to know about your products and so they're going to have to go to your listing and then if they get air and they're seeing weird stuff you know grammatical errors incomplete information Can't even find what they want. Then that's giving them an opportunity to go elsewhere and you really want to minimize the chance for. Somebody's mind to wander question or to do anything that might make that competitor. That's advertising in your molesting a very tempting
Analogue Pocket Portable Gaming Handheld Announced
"Analog pocket very cool hint held a new device that plays all game boy games and plus there's an adapted to play other classic handle games from game gear links neo Geo pocket color it's from the guys that brought you the into the superintendent the Mega S G S G think so so these guys make fantastic re-creations of classic consoles that don't use emulate Asian that means it's not like a retro by you have to actually supply your own cartridges but it's the best way to play classic game these today without Emulation basically thinks it's a super nintendo when it's when it's built the right so dumb doesn't no definitely not using any any kind of but they also like hook up really easily two TV's awesome excited this has that cradle because it has a doc doc just like a a switch and it's just like plug and play Your Game Boy Games on TV One of my questions this which is the whole point of the analog is that it's hard to hook up these consoles to modern televisions whereas the analog has hdmi out like remove those barriers but with a handheld did you don't have the like like why should I buy this instead of just buying like a gameboy advance S. P. to play at Jesus still have a thing with screens that plays your old yeah and also as a super resolution like and by the way I'm honestly asking what now it has incredibly high resolution screen so it's a nice screen oh it's amazing surprised that I mean the best screen of any handle device ever switch what about the ipad no what about what about the IPAD but like a dedicated gaming vice yeah it is better than the switch I think and it also plays Not Just not just game boy advance games play when you're in the game added you can feel it is it is a screen backlit yeah it's an it's a steady stream that's an upgrade from gameboy right but there's plenty of things at play Gameboy with Nice backwards screens so you're right that you know you might not need this if you have a really nice game boy ds light just like there's a lot of this and a lot of people there are probably GonNa Massa Atari Lynx Games I do want one like I'm not trying to be critical of it like I have a massive pile of Gameboy and gameboy color NBA cards and the Gameboy advance in my house somewhere but I haven't seen one in year so gameboy advance library is like it's important untapped like raising libraries of all time it's it's it's super nintendo quality at a bigger library yeah by threefold advance this love Chevalier on there you know you probably don't want did you don't WanNa play ninety percent of those game what about X. versus ever Yeah probably not that one I think we get that for twenty questions sometimes anyway I think very cool it's coming next year two hundred dollars some people are balking at that price some people are balking at that price does it come with the adapters I think I'm not sure if it comes with the adapters and it does not come with the duck the DOC is sold separately right your parents help you hook it up I think it looks really cool I like the I liked the same way Oh crap what's the name of the thing but the crank play play lady I probably up to yeah it's got a similar vibe to in it just feels this is very unscientific but just I'm drawn to the industrial design of it that very intangible beautiful yeah yeah even the DOC is beautiful like the setup event The libraries of games available for these systems is like the the shovellers cheaper them but like the games that are good are really expensive they're not they're not five dollar games anymore twenty dollar games or more than that that's unfortunate but they're really good games there it's also very easy to emulate those on many other things that have great screen so I don't know how this will do but it's four specific audience like the other analog things and for me I love having Super Nintendo and Nintendo hooked up to my TV anytime I don't have a bunch of those and my new systems and I think this would fit really nicely between now
"massa" Discussed on Applesauce & Horsefeathers
"The interest in everything and Navarine Massa the I'll write abaco tobacco so when I did research I didn't set out to look for all the damaging things about out tobacco Because I thought that would be everywhere right and it is. I thought you were going to say but I ended up doing that anyway. Array did you Tried to find some different things about it and yeah mostly. There's there's not a lot I mean unless you go into native American ceremonies and you know went. Tobacco was used for for other. If things and it's still a little bit good the a little bit I mean you know I started with history so.
The Vienna Woods Killer AKA the Poet of Death - Part 2
"Week we covered jacqueline travers mysterious childhood and how he went from Patty criminal to murderer after receiving a life sentence in prison he was able to transform public perception about him through his memoir but once he secured his release he immediately began killing again today. We'll conclude our exploration into the poet of death. Johann Oh Han Jack wound vaguer while in prison for the murder your of eighteen year old Margaret Shaeffer Jack Vega wrote and published his nineteen eighty-four Memoir Vega Foia or purgatory in it. He largely embellishes relishes a horrendous childhood living with his grandfather due to his excessive hyperbole. The memoir helped Jack cultivate an image that garnered sympathy sympathy from Australia's literary elite and prison reform activists. He became a celebrated author writing short stories plays and and children's stories to go along with his bestselling autobiography he successively trick them all into thinking that prison had rehabilitated him in nineteen ninety ninety. Jack Otter Vicar was released upon his release. He continued his charade as a changed man he became a celebrity giving book readings things in interviews but on September Fifteenth Nineteen Ninety just four months after he regained his freedom. Jack began a whole new murder spree spree. His first victim was thirty year old. Blanca botch Gavaa in Prague this week will cover Jack's continuous murder spree throughout route nineteen ninety and nineteen ninety-one has he moved from Austria to California then we'll cover the international efforts to bring Jack to justice. Thanks in large part are to a retired detective. One of the only ones who saw through Jack's reformed literary Genius Act after Jack Murdered Blunk Bochco vow while interviewing sex workers in Prague he returned to Vienna and began production on a play the piece was entitled Dungeon and served as a sequel to purgatory instead of just staying in Vienna. Jack was taking the play on tour. He was hoping for it to become his first big literary success post-prison. Unfortunately it was neither a critical nor financial success and the lack of appraise angered Jack October twenty six one thousand nine hundred ninety while Jack was in grottes possibly with the tour thirty nine year old sex worker Brune Hilda Hilda Massa disappeared in Austria. Sex Work is legal and highly regulated women must register with the police and are not allowed to begin working until the age of nineteen. The authorities are constantly in the know when it comes to the women working on the streets so when police learned of the disappearance of Brune held Hilda Masa it gave them a great deal of concern as the police scratch their heads over Broom Hilda's disappearance Jack in the tour traveled to Dornbirn a small town four hundred miles west of Vienna near the border of Austria and Switzerland on December fifth one thousand nine hundred ninety according to biographer John Leaks while in Dornbirn Dornbirn Jack called a friend of his and complained about the tepid response dungeon was receiving throughout the tour. The friend recalled that Jack was completely arrate. She tried to calm him down but he hung up on her still in a rage that night jack room the the streets of brigands seven miles north of Dornbirn to cool down. He needed to find a way to blow off some steam. Sadly the victim of Jack's rage would be thirty one year old sex sex worker. Heidi Marie Hammer Heidemarie vanished from her usual spot of the night of December fifth on New Year's Eve a couple of hikers making their way through the woods outside the city discovered Heidemarie Body. She was partially naked exposed from the waist down wrapped around her neck was is her pantyhose which had been used to strangle her to death a few days later on January Fifth Nineteen ninety-one Brune Hilda masses partially naked body body was discovered in the woods by a couple of kids playing there there had been a year and a half gap between the murders of Meriva Horvat and Margaret Shaeffer now while Jack was only waiting a month in between kills it appeared as Jack was evolving Vanessa's going to take over on the psychology here and throughout the episode please I note Vanessa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but she has done a lot of research for the show. Thanks Greg last week. We discussed how jack suffered from narcissistic personality disorder however since his release from prison it is possible that Jackson. PD evolved into malignant narcissism malignant narcissism is a blending of NPD with antisocial personality disorder as Rhonda Freeman PhD writes in her article for psychology she today people with this condition have extremely fragile egos and self esteem they can have occurrences of unstable impulsive or aggressive aggressive behavior. It's quite possible that the poor reception of Dungeon hurt Jax Egos so much that drove him to kill while on the road and at the start of the New Year nineteen ninety-one Jackson the process of moving on from the failures of Dungeon by focusing on his next play scream of fear scream of fear was a short play about AIDS Jackass said lost friends to the disease while in prison throughout the eighties during the AIDS crisis he became increasingly worried about the rising death toll and wanted to bring awareness to it scream of fear premiered in Vienna on February February seventeenth nineteen ninety-one it then travelled to seven other cities across Australia while we don't have confirmed proof that scream of fear was met met with the same response as Dungeon. It is quite possible that it did because while the play was on Tour Jack Struck again on March seventh seventh nineteen ninety-one sex worker Alfreda shrimp disappeared from her corner in Grottes Austria about one hundred twenty miles south of Vienna Elfriede has case ace proved slightly different from Jack previous murders a few days after a free to disappeared. Jack called off Rita's parents and taunted them. What made the calls halls even more nefarious was that the families phone number was unlisted in the phone book. It's possible that check forestall free to give them the number just before he strangled her
To return to the Moon, astronauts need new spacesuits
"We're going to be talking a bound an astronaut a nasa astronaut actually that is telling nasa that they need a new space suit for for their twenty twenty four artists missions now the artist mission is going to be sending the first woman in the next man. The surface of the moon in nasa is still using technology from the seventies basically and and their space suits of the they've been upgraded and you know they've been enhanced a little bit but they're basically you know the the kind of the same suits as they were back back then and sandra sandy magnus who's a flight tested former nasa astronaut let nasa know that they have a big problem during an official meeting of space flight safety experts in houston texas on friday so nasr's aerospace safety advisory panel both the ACT up which is an independent group who has represented by magnus held its quarterly meeting at johnson space center asep is tasked the valuating nasa safety performance in advising the agency on ways to improve their performance so since it's were going back to the moon really soon. It's only five years from now. We're going to need new technology. We're going to need new spacesuits. We're going to need a way for our nasa the astronauts to <hes> beyond the surface of the moon safely were using the same technology on the ISS assess that we used during the apollo program basically been enhanced like i said before but same suits this and that was the reason why we were supposed to have a <hes> all women's space walk a little while ago and because these suits didn't work properly that's why it never happened now this companies like spacex and boeing who were making their own space suits in there making them because they're sending astronauts back up to the international space station from US soil on US rockets in in the next year or so so in november of this year. If all goes well spacex will be sending the first people back to the international space station from united states on one of their rockets in one of their capsules and they'll be wearing spacex space x spacesuits now these are only built for launching from the earth to the national space station but massa. Maybe able to contract this stuff out to private. Companies like spacex or boeing boeing has a really grey suit as well. I didn't wanna just highly space x there but boeing has a really grey suit and boeing his also sending astronauts back to the international space station from US soil in the coming coming years so so there's some technology out there that they're using this new technology and you know magnus has been up to the international space station twice and she spent over five months in orbit and she knows what it takes to make safety a priority when you're in space. She said an integral system required to put boots on the moon. Are the boots basically saying hey these space suits aren't up to par with what we need as astronauts to get back to the moon and do it safely. She added that the space suits are essentially actually one person spaceships that deserves similar levels of funding and scrutiny as the rest of the optimist program 'cause we hear about the launch vehicles the s. l. s. possibly using a spacex or boeing walk rocket or rocket am using the capsules from these private companies or like i said using a ryan and s LS which is nasa's gigantic a next level rocket now they're focusing on that but they really need to be working on these spacesuits getting them up to par with new technology and the new ways as we're going to be exploring on the moon's surface. We're not just going to be digging up rock samples anymore. You know that's what the original the original apollo missions were for there for exploration. There were some science stuff but these ones these missions are different. We're going to be building a colony on the moon and we're going to be building technology that will allow us to settle human beings on the surface of our closest neighbor. The moon so magnus went on to say they're complex and they have stringent safety requirements and are a critical component of not only the lunar program but actually any potential. You'll exploration path the human spaceflight being engaged upon in the future so make a spacesuit. That's good for the moon. Make a good spacesuit. That's good for the trips and also make us base sued. That's good for anything past them looking forward lord future-proof it. If we wanna go to mars we got a spacesuit this ready to go so suit up jumping your rocket. Let's get an starship ship and we will launch ourselves to mars and we'll be fine doing it. We're not gonna be in any sort of peril because of our space suits so nasa is only operational. VA spacesuits are off planet right now on board the ISS they do attest suits here on earth but the only operational wants that are fully operational are on the international space station. They're each about forty years old. When was the last time you had any piece of clothing. That was ten years old. I don't think it happens but these space suits are so good that they're forty years old and they're still functioning but there's showing the signs of their age. They've lasted a really long time. The technology still works but it's very outdated. The painl- anal previously reported the nasa is struggling to upgrade their suits. Let alone maintain them. The problem doesn't lie simply. The fact act the suits are old. The fact the manufacturers of several critical components including the very fabric of the suits have now gone out of a business so you can't get these materials from the same companies that started making these suits to begin with so it's time to move on it.
Crazy, Who Me? - Overcoming the 'Beast' of Depression as an Entrepreneurial Leader with John Panigas
"Who who's ready to rock today. Fire nation j. l. d. here in ivan audio massa class that we've decided to call call crazy who me overcoming the beast of depression as an entrepreneurial leader in fire nation. This is such an important the topic and to drop the value bombs on this topic. I brought jon panel guest on the mike. He's let award winning companies with revenues in excess of one hundred million dollars while he's been struggling with crippling depression. He has a book crazy who me which chronicles his life in his journey in overcoming depression fire nation. We'll be talking about so much good stuff today specifically the restore methodology that john takes us through for those people that are suffering that are you're dealing with depression or who knows loved ones friends family members who are dealing with depression again such an important topic. That's why i brought jon on the mike today a day and we'll be diving in as soon as we get back from thinking our sponsor.
NASA, Elon Musk And Inland Musk discussed on SPACE NEWS POD
"Welcome back to the space based news pod a daily podcast about space science and tech. I'm your host will Walden and on this episode be talking about Inland Musk's latest comments to Time magazine about SPACEX and their ability to land on the moon before Nasa we all know the NASA has plans to land the first woman in the next man on. On the surface of the Moon in twenty twenty four about five years now Elon Musk recently told time dotcom it may literally be easier to just land starship on the moon then I tried to convince NASA that we can what he's talking about here is that Massa has a bunch of red tape. You have to go through a lot of channels in order to make sure that your rocket is the one used by NASA in this article. He says if it were to take longer to convince NASA in the authorities that we do have versus just doing it the we might just do it. It may literally be easier to just land starship on the moon than try to convince NASA that we can obviously this is a decision that's out of my hands but the sheer amount of effort required to convince a large number of skeptical engineers at NASA The we can do it is very high in not unreasonably so 'cause they're like a common. How could this possibly work the skepticism SEPTA system you know they'd have good reasons for it but the for sure way to end the sketch skepticism is to just do it now? Elon Musk and SPACEX are currently working on the starship. Ship starship will be a human capable craft that will be able to send people to the moon and eventually tomorrow's they have star hopper protests going on this week. They had some static fire tests <hes> last night in the night before in within the next five or so days they're going to have a hover test of starship. starship will be able to land dozens of people. Oh on the surface of the
NASA JPL Hacked
"Hello. And welcome back to the space news pod. A daily podcast where we discuss space science and tech. space station. I'm your host And according will to Walden a report in on on Forbes this episode. dot com, Massa the GPO. deep space network The Jet DSM Propulsion array Laboratory of radio has telescopes had its computer and numerous systems hacked. other GPL Hackers systems got into were the system. affected during this hack They and Johnson enter Space the system Center, who's through responsible a raspberry for pi the international computer space station and disconnected, then. completely Hecht further from into the system, the network not just just GPO to make sure at one point, that nothing the were to international happen space to the station ISS was amongst other in programs. jeopardy And they of said being that part of of these these Johnson's attacks. attacks. officials But But were concerned the cyberattacks luckily, luckily, we we could had had move some some engineers engineers laterally from on on the board board gateway into at at their mission Massa Massa systems, that that potentially were were up up gaining access, to to and the the task task initiate to stop initiating the hackers malicious to signals stop basically to human unplug spaceflight the systems that use that were those systems. in contact So basically, what with happened the. is ISS hackers found a before way the hackers not got gonna control go into too much technical of the detail international here. But there's. Security violations. There is no ticket resolutions, and there were delays in patching security vulnerabilities that were known by auditors. So what happened was Hecker is basically targeted a system JPL, and they found backdoors into other parts of NASA systems administrators lax security certificates, no role based security training was in place, GPO, and unlike masses main security operation center, it didn't have a round, the clock incident reporting capability, so things like this are very important to security as far as NASA goes, and our people in space, as well as all the science that could be happening at NASA. And if hackers were to intrude on that and deleted information, well, that would be a sad day for science for Hugh. Humanity in Massa is a big target masses. High-profile target and Mike Thompson. Who's a security analysts said many purely associate them with space related activities, but their depth of research and development includes patents covering, cutting edge science, that nation states would literally kill for the hackers might still be in their network, without them, even knowing it.
A Different Kind of Derby
"A different kind of derby to tell you about it's the Mongolian derby. Yes, we said Mongolian derby, it takes place in you. Guessed it Mongolia between Russia and China. So you might be asking where is there? Racetrack in Mongolia. Well, you're not approaching this right? This Turbie is not run at a track. The track is the wild landscape of the country. The Mongolian derby is a six hundred twenty mile endurance race a thousand kilometers. It's designed to recreate the pony express mail system set up by the Mongolian ruler Genghis Khan in the thirteenth century this derby takes anywhere between six and ten days to finish this coming. August will be the tenth anniversary of the Mongolian derby. It was started in two thousand nine by a British based company, but we want to talk about the two thousand thirteen edition of the race the fifth annual event just a few weeks before a nineteen year old girl named Lara. Prior. Palmer was cruising the internet from her home in the United Kingdom and came across the Mongolian derby with zero training and some but not enough money to pay even the entry Faye? Miss. Prior Palmer hit the apply button and wallah entered the race most competitors trained for years in order to endure the fatigue and hunger and horsemanship necessary to get through the race. What happened after that internet? Search is a testament to the human spirit a true tale miss. Prior Palmer, spins in the new book rough magic which comes out right about now. And we're very pleased to have Lara. Prior Palmer with us to discuss her story here on in the gate. You didn't even have the money for the entry fee? So what happened when you told your parents that you were doing this? Definitely it didn't tell them together. I think my mom is li- enticed by horse's name Massa where they are in the world and was taken with the rebound to Susan ally. Was I think my my phone is difficult gauge, he's not doesn't angle himself into reality in the same race that he said it was very dangerous and said it was too opportunistic to do it at the last minute as I was going to and sort Instead of. of just didn't imagine that was the way I should be spending my summer, I think he had ideas probably more related to have imagined his children should be funding. Nessim I'm not even going to go there. What was your goal going in to win to have a spiritual experience to find yourself? Definitely doesn't have go. I was there wins co teenager who was really excited raise money for charities. I thought it was great is in the UK. Lots of people do rap marathon running. And I thought the mobile w was quite unusual. And it would be good thing to raise the greenhouse sports who do fantastic through sports in London with kids from dysfunction communities say that was definitely a goal. And then the other goal is just to finish the race. I guess the pot for doing it and guessing the experience at least for one day before jokes out if I did because no on my age or under the twenty three I think could yet finish the race. You will get to the human suffering in a second. But before we go any further, I think we need to clarify a couple of things first of all it's not one horse that takes you through this race. It's around twenty five horses. How do the horses that you're not writing travel with you through the race? Great question. Yes. It's an insurance rates to humans. Not voices say in Mongolia. There is not a lot of forces than many families on the set have varying amounts of numbers of forces their status symbol, as they are in many, many roads. And so in the summer, the organizes travel mongo Leah us king families if they'd like to act as a horse station for the race and the families will then get together thirty five before she forces. And there's a stations a place that sort of twenty five mile into intervals say, he writes, it three or four hours between station, and he stopped and you given your tied horse and wait for its heart rate to come level. And then you look at the line of twenty horses on it depending on how many runaway in the storm the night before maybe three and then he decided you're an expert. Cindy right on. So you don't even know these horses until you literally hop aboard. And. Get going exactly because even in polo, for example, where a number of horses are on a team with a competitor their property of the competitor. He knows all those horses or she knows all those horses. This is not that. Oh my gosh. How different are Mongolian horses from horses. We're used to seeing here in the west and not just thoroughbreds. I mean. Hard to say casino, lots of British horses a vaguely similar to mongering recipients by EastWest vied, really. But for example, I've ridden some some small Arab pennies in a friend in the states like she had some Icelandic ponies, which not dissimilar from Mongolian pennies, and that they have a large head size, and they've quite stocky and actually genetically qualifies forces, even though they sort of with a height that pony. Tony's it'd be under fourteen two and the way they differed the rave going into the Ray rarely Rijn the ones that I raised. You can't get together one thousand five hundred horses for grace and make sure they will probably train lots of the Masami wild. And they'll have been backed often didn't quite understand steering, which is lucky. He's quite often describe a straight line and a buck Christ law. When he got on them co box and open the ones that bucks that hard. The best bolt is and they would get Alex for good. I'll steam so yet to take that risk. So you're traveling like six hundred miles with horses that are bucking on you. They thought behold way back in the beginning. Maybe. More failing cheeky some of them. I mean within Mongolia, the horses a difference. Some families had Jerry very nice donkeys should expect type horses out of brilliant racing champions who were like woman is no horses. They relied lions do you? Try to talk to them chirp to them. Calm them down. Yeah, you can too. That's another thing saying among Golian language said different Brad for world. In different words, instead of giddy up is more like sound, and Yeah. you You can can talk talk to to them. them as much like I signed on credit lot. I told them, but my frustration Kreidler your any if you writing Elaine, some people some people do their your any companion. You've got to make friends of no matter what the athletic ability is speaking of the other people. I mean, I imagine that most of the other competitors kind of know who each other is somewhat. Then you show up for a fischel testing out of practically nowhere. What was that? Like, it was very global many of the right is not that. And lots of people that it was there was a sense of people trying to make partnerships because we were afraid to write a load, and I never really got round to doing this electrical doing enough of a serious bond with anyone they would welcome any on the testing days with two days or something. It was tens by slightly ignored that I was let high on the excitement of this new group of people fresh out of school with less. Not a sheltered life cried say, particularly and I was just biggest take cited by the whole gyn to natures how terrified I was. Did you get any vibe that they were saying away tea with teenage girl? What is she doing here? It wasn't quite like that. Because I was some other young competitors Severo friendly with each other. There was a sense of surprise that. I wasn't so prepared for the race and as desire from some older people to help me out of the show how many competitors are there in this race varies some years. This about fifty and other years my either eight thirty two so we're talking about thirteen fourteen hours of riding day. Right. I mean, what were the conditions line conditions is in the weather. The weather was very entertaining. We had storms, but it by seat raves followed by floods where you can't cross the land 'cause it's a trap. So you weren't comfortable, and you probably had a change of claves. If you went very good at packing like me. And you're probably sue because there's no way of training for this race. There is nice setup. Like in the any. Russia. How much you've written red semi truck or train polo. Tony's no one's really done this before teen hours a day. And is title is suck on the body. And you get off