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1816, Monroe vs. King: The Virginia Dynasty

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1816, Monroe vs. King: The Virginia Dynasty

"It Sunday may first eighteen three at the Palais de Twee near the Louvre in Paris France. It's just after dinner. And in the Salon the palace guests mingle foreign dignitaries French diplomats and Paris powerbrokers among them. James Monroe grow the US Special Commissioner to France Monroe is in Paris to help. Secure the Louisiana territory for the US as Monroe takes in his lush surroundings. Jefferson's words echo in his head. All is all hopes are now fixed on you when rose thoughts are interrupted though when he feels a gentle hand on his elbow Mr Munro Munro turns to find the most powerful man in France standing before him. Napoleon Bonaparte the first console. The little corporal is all smiles. I trust you enjoyed your dinner sir. We won't Ya. You speak French a little on sir. I'm delighted I to hear it. Did you ever good voyage Mr Munro. Yes once you're you came on a frigate no once you're a merchant ship charged for the purpose. I am here as you know to to discuss a matter of well matter of tremendous importance to Mister Jefferson. Napoleon takes him gently by the elbow and leads him through the crowd of guests. There will be plenty. Have time for business tonight though. But it's talk other things as you wish months. Yeah so tell me has the federal city grown quite a bit or it has your Napoleon stops walking. Suddenly he made sure the coast is clear. Then he discreetly asks how old is President Jefferson about sixty he married. He is a widower and he children two daughters. Once you're both married. Does he reside in the Federal City. Generally months you're are the public buildings there commodious especially the ones Congress and the president. They are indeed Napoleon Sizes Monroe of for the moment from the look on his face. Monroe you can tell. The first consul has more on his mind than architecture. The polling leans in close you. Americans do brilliant things in your war with England. Well thank Huma. You're you will do the same again we shall. I am persuaded always behave. Well when it'd be a lot more and pull in smiles he leans in even and closer and whispers confidentially. You may probably be more with them again. I do not know. Once you're that would be an important question to decide. Should there be an occasion for Napoleon smiles again. A Devilish Clinton as I. Well there will be Mr Munro of this. There is no doubt wicked game is sponsored by Wicks. Politics is about influence but so is business and so his art in fact no matter what you're passionate about growing your business building your brand getting your message out. You need to reach an influence people in the way to do do that is with a website build one with wicks. The most technologically advanced website building platform out there. 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Jefferson assured Monroe that his mission to France if successful would guarantee his future presidency. Jefferson was right Louisiana purchase double the size of the US Secure Jefferson's legacy and bolstered Monroe's political reputation. But Napoleon was right to the foreman row became president he served as James Madison Secretary of state in the country's hour of need President Madison. Mike Jefferson before him and put his hopes in James Monroe. The Revolutionary War veteran from Virginia rose to the occasion his actions during the war of eighteen. Twelve help save save. The country from ruin solidified his national reputation and define the landscape of the eighteen sixteen contest. This is episode eight eighteen sixteen the Virginia Dynasty in the summer of eighteen twelve. James Monroe enro- wanted out of the State Department. He was tired of sitting behind a desk. He wanted a military command at the outset of war. With Great Britain. President Madison's plan was to attack the British invading Canada Monroe. A Revolutionary War veteran strongly supported the strategy. He believed the conquering candidate ended. It would force the British to the negotiating table. President Madison initially contemplated giving Monroe Command of the Canadian invasion but ultimately Madison changed his mind worried about a backlash from other officers. Who outranked Monroe? Just a lowly colonel. So Monroe considered taking command of a volunteer regiment from Virginia Virginia. In the end though after consulting his most trusted friends and advisors when road declined he determined that he could do more good in Washington than he could in the field killed. Commanding a minor militia because the US was at war and Monroe believe that Secretary of state was a role of secondary importance as Monroe Russell. At the real power in the cabinet was in the office of the war department. Monroe had his eye on a future presidential bid defeating the British as war. Secretary would certainly help that 'cause but there was another more immediate reason. Monroe wanted the reins of America's military power. His country was losing the fight from the very start the US was outmatched. And ill equipped to fight the British. The fledgling nation had no national bank no reserves to pay for troops or supplies and on the domestic front opposition to the war was mounting. federalists and New England and New York opposed Mr Madison's war as they called it largely on on economic grounds legislatures states like Massachusetts and Connecticut even refused provide militias for the cause on its surface. Madison strategy of Canada was a sensible one. The played into America's advantages American troops were already on North American soil. They can mobilize quickly and easily get the best of a poorly defended Canada but in the attempt to carry out. Madison's plan the. US suffered a series of crippling defeats in August of eighteen twelve. The British conquered Detroit American General William Hall fearing a massacre of his troops surrendered without firing a single shot. Thus giving the British control control of Lake Erie and the entire Michigan territory this embarrassing surrender of Detroit fan the already growing antiwar sentiment all across the country Secretary of State James Monroe general halls leadership weak indecisive and pusillanimous Monroe Road to Kentucky Senator Henry Clay I most Oh sincerely wish that the president could dispose of me at this juncture in the military line. I would in a very few days join our forces assembling beyond the Ohio and so oh monroe went to Madison asking for a military command so that he might ride into battle and recover lost ground but Madison denied him a few months later. After dramatics current secretary of war resigned Monroe was named acting secretary of war Monroe and Madison. Both hope the war office appointment would be permanent but Congress had other plans in mind in January of eighteen thirteen one. Federalist politician declared on the floor of the House that it was a curious fact. Act that for these twelve years past the whole affairs of this country have been managed under the influence of two Virginians. It was clear that Madison intended to make Third Virginia Jinyan Monroe his successor but many had grown wary of the so-called Virginia Dynasty started by Thomas Jefferson and carried four by James Madison Addison. This Virginia fatigue with prevalent in both parties the federalists and their opponents the Democratic Republicans whereas they often call themselves was just Republicans as a result members of Congress. Were reluctant to do anything that would help. Monroe position himself for the presidency including confirming him. As Secretary of war once it became clear that Monroe would likely not be confirmed by the Senate. Madison was forced to go into a different direction as a constellation in Madison. Promised Monroe a military command lieutenant. General in command of the Northern Army but Monroe's replacement secretary of war John Armstrong complicated it matters because Armstrong had presidential ambitions of his own and in an attempt to deny monroe any further. Glory Armstrong Convinced President Madison to rescind the promise he made to Monroe who would for the foreseeable future remain at the State Department. Watching from Washington is a bad start of the war turned worse It's August ninth eighteen. Fourteen on the Potomac River just off the shore of Virginia American agent John Stuart Skinner stands on the deck of British worship the HMS Albion before Him Stanton notoriously cruel British officer rear. Admiral George Cochran the papers. Call Him the great bandit but American sailors call him by another name more befitting his barbarous nature Attila. The Hon but skinner is not in immediate danger. He's been on board Cock Burns ship many times before and he's always been given safe passage still. Skinner knows conference a dangerous man. Su He proceed with caution. Admiral Cochran pleasure as always. The pleasure is mine as always. How are you skinner? I've no no complaints. Admiral may offer you something to eat or drink no. Thank you always welcome on my ship. Skinner as far as Americans go. I find you tolerable. Thank you AMMO. Skinner is no stranger to Admiral Cochran or his droll sense of humor. Skinner is America's official prisoner of war agent carrying in communications between the US and the British and dealing with men. Like Admiral Cochran. Is His job. Skinner's here today to deliver official communications from the State Department. These these are few admiral. Dispatches from Secretary Monroe Excellent. I've something for the secretaries. Well with a devilish Grin Cochran hand skinner a stack back of newspapers. These are Secretary Monroe. Sir Yes I thought Mr Munro might like to read the musings of the British press on the subject of Mr Madison's war. Needless to say the British papers feel the prospects for peace or discourage any news from the front. The fighting into lie was severe on the Niagara Frontier Ontario in particular. Let's say the battles Chippewa and London's lane or the bloodiest of the war to date. You see discouraging. There is cause for hope. Admiral peace talks have begun. Cock burn can hardly contain his laughter. Oh I know the British commanders in there pitifully mediocre lot. I wouldn't hold how much hope there is always hope for peace or certainly. Mr Madison has demonstrated his mind on this subject. Though it's Mr Monroe's mind that interest me the most. Tell me Mr Mr Skinner. How does your secretary of State feel about the state of the warranties? He'd zyu- Mister Madison's piece. I can't say I know highly know that Mr Madison has high hopes for an amicable. Oh end this bloody conflict. Well I do hate to disappoint copper and flashes skinner another wicked smirk. But I'm afraid Mr Madison who you just have to put on his armor and fight it out. I see nothing left but there was something rear. Admiral Cochran saw a brilliant strategy to put great. Britain's boot on America's throat caught burn had initially been deployed to the Chesapeake Bay as part of a plan to draw troops away from Canada. But once they're they're caught burn saw an even greater opportunity a chance to sack the US capital and put an end to the war. Once and for all KOC burn scheme would put President President Madison's back against the wall but he would also finally give James Monroe the opportunity to get into the fight uh on July seventeenth eighteen fourteen Cochran had submitted to his superiors. A secret plan to capture the capital of the United States under President Madison. Or Little Jimmy as Admiral Cochran like to call him the. US was on the verge of collapse. Cochran wrote to his commander. It is quite impossible possible for any country to be in a more unfit state for war than this now is in August of eighteen fourteen. The British fleet sailed into Chesapeake Bay and landed ended thousands of troops on the shores of Maryland less than fifty miles southeast of Washington in response. James Monroe sent an urgent message to Secretary of war John. John Armstrong Monroe urged Armstrong to evacuate the Capitol and remove all the central documents and personnel Armstrong rejected. Monroe's recommendation listen. He believed the British. Were more likely to attack Baltimore. Monroe would later write. Infatuation seemed to have taken possession of General Armstrong relative to the danger. Sure of this place. He could never be made to believe. It was in any danger when the enemy were within ten miles by a direct route and marching against it. He treated the idea with contempt attempt so instead of defending the capital Armstrong redeployed the bulk of the capital's defences to fort Washington a dozen miles south of the capital. The remaining two hundred fifty troops marched Bladensburg ten miles to the East Monroe. Though quickly put his family on a coach and sent them to safety in Loudon County County he procured a small fleet of boats. Loaded them up with State Department documents as well as his personal effects and sail the boats upstream monroe took arms rounded rounded up a couple of dozen cavalry troops and road off into the night to gather intelligence on the enemy on the morning of August twenty first Monroe and President Madison. A dire your message. The Brits were marching on Washington. Five thousand men. Strong Monroe urged President Madison to call up troops from Virginia in defend the capital capital at all costs related Monroe's intelligence to Armstrong in order his secretary of war to comply with Monroe's recommendation Armstrong though ignored the president's order for Madison it was the last Straw Armstrong was reprimanded and removed president. Madison took control over the military and he named Monroe. I in command. Monroe quickly ordered more troops to Bladensburg to shore up the miniscule force of two hundred fifty men but it was too a little too late in a humiliating defeat. The American forces were routed. At the battle of Bladensburg the defeated troops fled to the capital amidst the chaos. A US Monroe rode his horse into the stampede of fleeing soldiers and forced them into formation. You ordered the troops to Baltimore and urge Madison to evacuate Washington tune and remove all valuable historical documents and public records. Monroe himself stayed in Washington until the last possible moment. Just before eight that night. When the British began to enter the capital he fled on horseback crossing the Potomac and finding safety and a nearby mansion? Where incidentally the president's wife wife Dolly and also taking refuge from their monroe and Mrs Madison Watch? The Sky Changed Colors as Washington. Began to burn mm-hmm. Ricky game is answered by Buffy. Let's say you're at zoo or wildlife wildlife preserve you look up and see Koala. Most people would think soft cuddly and adorable. Buffy customers think that too but then they look at the Eucalyptus Lipton's tree that Koala is sitting in and thank soft cuddly and luxurious. Buffy makes the world's best banning and they make it from eucalyptus fiber it's softer through than cotton breathable and cool to the touch and buffers Eucalyptus comforters. 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The president's house is destroyed. Civilian homes are burnt to the ground the Dome of the Capitol building is reduced to a smoldering pile of ashes. A steady stream of citizens pour into to the city fleeing the wrath of nearby British forces outside a group of civilians run up to Madison wide eyed fearful among them federal employee tamed. Dr William Thornton. Mr President May I have a word sir. Monroe looks to Madison Shrinks. Away from Thornton President seemed shattered. woebegone shaken shaken to his core. Still Madison musters controlled replying. Of course how can I be a service for Washington has fallen. Mr President. General Winder surrendered rendered the British without firing a single shot. British will march again on the capital. Sir And we shall muster our forces and defendant thornton swallows his tongue the Madison can see he has something to say. Speak your mind sir. As the only federal employees who remained in the capital during the British invasion I speak with authority of the citizenry citizenry. Mr President the people of Washington requests that you dispatch deputation of citizens to speak with the commander of the British squadron. From what purpose to surrender the capital Sir. Row winces disgust for him. Surrender is not an option. You looks again at Madison. But he is unsure of what next to say so he waivers for a moment before pressing his point. No we must defend the capital with respect. Sir The situation is hopeless. There's not time enough to prepare inadequate defense. We must surrender. No Sir we will not full Thornton and the crowd of civilians turned to monroe as does the President Monroe grasps the hilt of his sword and steps into the middle of the crowd is is fiery with passion. Gentlemen the President has spoken. There will be no uh-huh surrender but mister secretary. If any deputation of citizens moves toward the enemy it will be repelled. By the bayonet we will defend the capital or die. Doing in Monroe climbed on his force can unsheathes his sword. He calls out. The crowd of civilians are capital is under attack those who are not too cowardly cowardly to do so must help me. Defend it in the country's darkest hour President Madison appointed secretary the Estate James Monroe the secretary war pro-tem making monroe the only official in. US history to serve two cabinet posts at the same time. Monroe was made the Supreme Free Military Commander with full authority of the command of war. Finally giving him his military command but the country was in bad shape and the capital Washington. manton smoldering the war of eighteen. Twelve was his to lose as war Secretary James Monroe worked tirelessly in the days and weeks after his appointment. He hardly slept on the rare occasion that he did get rest. He slapped on a camp cot so that he could stay. Stay close to the action. He repositioned some seven thousand militiamen and place. Kanaan's strategic defensive points around the city. He called up militia from other states line line Potomac with artillery and set up a system of gathering and transmitting information in and out of Washington. Monroe's Creek Defensive Washington forced the British to set set their sights on another target. Baltimore Washington may have been saved but to win the war. Monroe knew he needed money. So he demanded that Congress convene for the purpose of providing more ample funds establishing National Bank doing everything that will give energy to the government and success to the war monroe would push congress to raise troop pay to incentivize recruitment and create a sizable standing army. At Monroe's urging the Madison Administration would ask ask Congress to create a Second Bank of the United States with a fifty million dollar line of credit to pay for the cost of the war when Congress push back Monroe set aside his limited government principles and borrowed millions of dollars on his own signature. A lifelong anti-federalist Republican Monroe was a constitutionalist at heart art. He knew well the dangers that a standing army and an unbridled executive branch could post on nations liberty but monroe also understood. There would be no country if he lost the war. His efforts to create a second National Bank failed but Monroe would succeed in getting a standing army. He would use that army to beat back. The British by mid September eighteen fourteen the British had given up hope of capturing Baltimore they withdrew their troops and sailed out of Chesapeake Bay in defeat but even as the tide of the war began to turn antiwar sentiment in Congress continue to swell opposition to Mr Madison's war became the central platform former the opposition party. The federalists the federalist party had been adrift since the death of its intellectual who actual leader Alexander Hamilton in eighteen four. They had only elected one. President John Adams in seventeen ninety six and both houses of Congress had been dominated the Republicans for well over a decade in the midterm elections of eighteen. Fourteen though the federalist Party soy resurgence. Thanks in part their antiwar war position. The party gained legislative majorities in New England Maryland and Delaware and formidable minorities in New York. Pennsylvania and New Jersey during the war of eighteen twelve. The political sands of American politics were shifting in unprecedented ways. Republicans in Congress seem to co-opt federalist policies policies like protective tariffs a standing army a stronger navy and a second bank of the United States in opposition to Madison. federalists found themselves advocating eating against many of their defining principles as former president John Adams observed are two great parties have crossed over the valley and taking possession of each other's mountain. The antiwar sentiment reached its peak in December of eighteen fourteen when federalists from Connecticut Rhode Island Massachusetts New Hampshire and Vermont convened wind in Hartford Connecticut for closed-door deliberations extensively the purpose of the meeting. which would come to be called? The Hartford Convention was innocent. Enough being on on the east coast. New England was vulnerable to British invasion. New Englanders who oppose the war wanted to discuss their common grievances and create a plan for New England's defense but but President Madison suspected they had other motives throughout the fall of eighteen. Fourteen rumors of New England's secession had been circulating in the press. President Madison Awesome fear. New England might band together secede from the Union and negotiate a separate peace with Great Britain. James Monroe shared Madison's concern in in an effort to keep tabs on the convention. Monroe sent an agent. Colonel Thomas Jessop to spy on the men convening there and report back on any secessionist activities. Monroe also sent a warning to the governor of New York telling him to call up the militia and have them make ready to march on Hartford less than a week after the convention mentioned began Monroe received a report from Jeff according to his agent. The pro secession. federalists were a minority. They lacked the necessary support to constitute institute a legitimate threat. Monroe promptly ordered the New York militia to stand down less than a week after the federalist gathered in Harford to discuss their opposition. Listen to Mr Madison's war the war of eighteen twelve officially came to an end with the signing of the Treaty of Ghent but the question of who won the war was not clear cut. Not Nearly two thousand Americans were killed. Four thousand were wounded. The war cost millions of dollars in supply materiel and millions more lost revenue from MM trade the war all the calls the collapse of the economy and sent the US into national bankruptcy. The peace negotiations like the war itself and in a stalemate L. Make to as part of the treaty. The British returned captured territory near Lake Superior and Michigan and in Maine back to the US the US return land. It captured in Canada Adda back to Britain. Nearly everything was back to where it was before the war began still Madison had beaten back the British invasion and the American can people relished in the perceived victory the US had once again defeated the most powerful nation on earth. What many Americans dubbed the Second War of independence attendance so Madison declared victory and rode a wave of popular opinion his political opponents the federalis found their opposition to the war suddenly unpopular and their talk of secession at the Hartford convention turned public favor even further against them branding the party as traitors? The blowback was so severe that in the end the federalist didn't feel the national candidate in the election of eighteen sixteen. What little effort that did muster went toward selecting rufus king king the former senator from New York as their candidate but king knew he didn't stand a chance in one letter he would write the federal party in the sense of a party? Already aiming at political power no longer exists king suggested that the best strategy in the election of eighteen sixteen was for the federalist to give their influence to least wicked section of the Republicans king was not alone in his pessimism in May of eighteen sixteen. The editor of the Richmond Enquirer wrote why waste Mr Talents in fruitless opposition. The son of the Federal Party has set forever in King's mind and the minds of many. federalists the party's anti-war. Stance stance had united the people and the many factions of the Republican Party permanently against them but if the Republicans were united against the federalists they they were not united in their vision of the country's future after sixteen years of leadership under three Virginian Presidents many Republicans were ready for the Virginia Dynasty. To end nowhere was the sentiment stronger than in the country's most populous state New York so if Virginia James Monroe wanted to secure his party's he's nomination he would have to unite multiple factions behind him and overcome growing opposition in the key battleground state of New York in this fight for the White House in row or get a helping hand from state senator from New York and future president. Martin van Buren by the mid eighteen. Tens New York was tired. Tired of playing second fiddle to Virginia so put forward a Republican candidate of their own. Daniel D Tompkins a popular New York politician who had acquitted himself as well as the wartime governor of New York. But even for a popular candidate like Governor Tompkins the paths to securing the support of the New York. Republicans was Rocky One New York Congressman. Jonathan Fisk had serious concerns about Tompkins writing to a colleague. That governor Tompkins was too young volatile lacking the gravity dignity and grave responsibility that elevated station still Tompkins was hugely popular in his State and in spite of the many reservations alarm large voting block of New York. Republicans threw their support behind him for president. The leader of this pro Tompkins coalition was state. Senator Martin Van Buren brilliant political tactician who schemes employs on the campaign trail would earn him the nickname the little magician. Uh We had game sponsored by upstart in eighteen sixteen. The United States was deeply in debt. Secretary terrier statement row borrowed millions to keep the war of eighteen twelve funded though necessary. It was against his principles because Monroe getting into debt is easy but getting out. What is hard you might know this firsthand? Especially if your credit score isn't great but now there's upstart dot com. 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It's December eighteen fifteen in Washington on the crowded floor of the House to New York congressman conferring hush discrete tones. Jay Bilas Hammond and James Birdsall of Shenango County Mr Birdsall. What are your thoughts on on Monroe Presidency? Why for one have had my fill of Virginia in the White House? You Oh yes. The only question is who can defeat him. What do you say to Governor Tompkins? He was a fine wartime governor. Still the governor's mansion is one thing. The White House is another. Surely you prefer Governor Tompkins Secretary Monroe over Secretary Monroe preferred King George the third though I believe secretary actor Terry Crawford is a far more viable alternative. Don't tell that to Governor Tompkins. I'm afraid he's already aware. He thinks. His fellow New Yorkers to unkindly in our course worse he feels we've abandoned him prematurely but perhaps he's right. Tompkins is a fine man yes he is but you realize he cannot defeat Monroe Tompkins. Tompkins is known in New York but in the south his name carries no weight at all. The poor fellow doesn't stand a chance only a southerner of repute can defeat Mr Monroe a southerner of repute like war secretary Crawford precisely but Secretary Crawford. Hails from Virginia does that not concern. You Crawford's a Georgia man and has been and since he left Virginia as a child. Besides as far as his parentage is concerned he come from Phoebe. Stock not an aristocratic. They call him the farmer's boy he's a self self made man not to mention judge. Spencer has already thrown his support behind Secretary Crawford. The judge has more influence over New York. Republicans than than anyone. Not More than Mr Van Buren era. Perhaps but surely Mr Van Buren would agree with judges assessment. I would agree. With what assessment Birdsall and Ham and turn to find the New York state. Senator Martin Van Buren standing right behind them. Him and smiles warmly. Takes Van Buren by the hand. Mr Van Buren. What brings you to the capital? I'm here on business. Well how fortuitous. Please tell us who always support for president in the upcoming election. Van Buren shoulders droop with with little emotion and not a shred of enthusiasm and his voice van buren replies. Oh we say Tompkins of course without another word and buren leaves birds on Hammond. Exchange a curious glance wad do believe that was a rather cold an odd response. Ask US not exactly a resounding endorsement. Indeed it wasn't in December of Eighteen fifteen in the run up to the election of eighteen. Sixteen the little magician. Martin van Buren had a trick up his sleeve in eighteen. Sixteen New York. Republicans were torn between two candidates governor. Tompkins and secretary Crawford in the spring of Eighteen Sixteen Martin van buren would step onto the scene and use his considerable political acumen to settle the question in doing doing so. He would deprive both Tompkins and Crawford their chance at the White House leaving the door open for James Monroe and ensuring eight more years of the Virginia Dynasty. In New York in Eighteen fifteen there was a power struggle going on between two Republicans and Judge Ambrose Spencer and state senator. Martin Van Buren Spencer and his camp. Were Pro Crawford. Then buren in his camp. Were Pro Tompkins. But but by December of Eighteen fifteen all signs pointed to Crawford winning the presidential nomination in New York and possibly across the nation Crawford was the most most popular choice amongst national congressman. By far as a senator he had served as the president pro temporary of the Senate after Vice President George Clinton passed away in eighteen eighteen twelve. He had served with dignity as the. US Minister to France. Before being appointed Madison's war secretary in August eighteen. Fifteen van buren favored ever Tompkins though. But he also saw the writing on the wall. Tompkins had no chance of winning on the national level Aleph Buren to walk a political tightrope if he abandoned abandoned Tompkins and tried to bring forward a different candidate his own pro Tompkins supporters would probably turn on him leaving him general without an army publicly. Supporting Monroe was a non-starter because of the prevailing anti Virginia sentiment in New York and if van Buren supported Crawford Huby bowing to the will of Judge Spencer her his rival and a man. He called arrogant and vindictive in the end van Buren decided that a James Monroe presidency was better than giving Crawford the White House and giving judge Spencer Dominion over him in New York. So vampire put into play. What historian Robert v Remedy called a daring and unique plan? Dan Van Buren would publicly. Maintain allegiance to Tompkins while working in secret to bring about Monroe's nomination and hopefully handing Tompkins the vice as presidency to achieve. This van Buren played both sides according to one congressman in New York. Mr Van Buren was ardent in the support of Tompkins at Washington. To say the least he was philosophically. Calm and cool. On February fourteenth eighteen sixteen the New York state legislature met in Albany. They're the little magician worked his magic the state legislature passed resolutions opposing Crawford and instead threw their support behind Tompkins and three days later that same legislature created a committee to determine if Thompkins could win the presidency. Their conclusion was grim. Tompkins had no chance on the national national level but if he withdrew from the race and his supporters United with William Crawford Monroe would likely not elected as a result of these findings in he pro Crawford resolution almost made it to the floor of the New York legislature but van Buren supporters. Shot it down abruptly ending the legislative session before the resolution could be adopted while Van Buren was pulling the strings in New York in Georgia. William Crawford was growing weary of the idea of even running for president especially against Madison's heir apparent James Monroe Crawford had told One New York congressman that he only you wish to put his name forward for the presidency. If New York support was guaranteed when he learned that New York might go. The way of Tompkins Crawford withdrew from the race telling his colleagues and Georgia to make his decision known to the press. Van Buren upon learning of Crawford's decision. wrote to a colleague. I had no hesitation in communicating to to my friends here but Crawford. Supporters did not stop pushing his candidacy in February eighteen sixteen. A group of Anti Virginia Congressman met in Washington Washington to devise a way to secure the nomination for Crawford. The Crawford wanted no part of it. He was worried that overly campaign against Monroe was a losing proposition and and wouldn't hurt his chances at future elections Crawford and his supporters struck a deal. Crawford would allow them to vote for him as long as they promised to make clear to the press that he did not want to be elected and had taken no part in his name being brought forward when the National Republican Caucus met in March of eighteen. Sixteen Monroe Monroe won the nomination over Crawford. Sixty five to fifty four margin of eleven votes Governor Tompkins was nominated for the vice presidency Crawford. Supporters did not make good on their promise though. No statement was ever issued to the press on Crawford's behalf and Crawford Right. I think I have serious cause complaint against my particular friends in Washington. James Monroe was little more than a casual observer to the drama happening in New York like his predecessors assessors Monroe did not openly campaign for president. Neither did the defacto federalist candidate Rufus King whose federalist Party did not even hold formal nominations or launch an official campaign on December fourth eighteen sixteen when the presidential electors met federalists from a handful of states hopelessly cast their votes for King. But James Monroe won handily. One hundred eighty three to thirty four though Rufus King lost. He still made history. He would be the last ever federalist to win electoral vote for the Office of the president. Secretary Crawford maintain that the election of eighteen sixteen was clearly early in my reach. If I had been ambitious to a certain extent he might be right. New York might have decided the election. Crawford's favor were it. Not for Martin Van Buren. It's political maneuverings. Van Buren scheme helped. Monroe take the White House secured another eight years of the Virginia Dynasty and ushered in what would come to be known on as the era of good feelings but the era of good feelings was a misnomer as president. Monroe would largely continue president. Madison's economic policies policies the reinstatement of National Bank protective tariffs and government. Funded improvements these policies which had once been the foundational principles of the federalists would be fully co opted by the Republican Monroe. The backlash in his own party would be severe during Monroe's first term. He would deface a bitterly divided. Republican party had devastating economic crisis. The Old Republican federalist order known as the first party system would topple in its place a new political system but the same political clashes on the next episode of Ricki gain the election of eighteen in twenty the era of good feeling sets the stage for the third and last uncontested presidential election in American history. Don't miss a single week of March from I'm seventeen thousand nine to twenty twenty it the subscribe button in your podcast APP now. This show is supported by you. Our listeners please give us a rating and leave a review but the single best way to help the show grow is to tell others share with your friends and family find us on social media at wicked game pot. And I'm at Lindsey Graham. AM another way to support. This show is to go to wicked game. PODCAST DOT COM members. There get early access to add free episodes as well as bonus content only available available to subscribers. Find out more at wicked game. 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The first campus shooting

"Hey History lovers I'm Mike Rosen with retro pod a show about the past rediscovered this is a remarkably sad thing to say but it's true we live in an age of school shootings but a lot of things in life both good and bad released on bail and then he disappeared rumors spread about his whereabouts for several years readings go try eighteen forty Martin van Buren was president to tell the truth Sam's protested that he was atheist the next thing that happened would seem unbelievable today story based on the shooting describe what happened in an essay for the Huffington Post in two thousand eleven hat quote the ball was received just below the Navel Davis died a manhunt was on for his killer some students said they heard he moved to Texas others said he committed suicide one rumor was actually correct but it was only confirmed fairly now almost totally forgotten the episode bears some resemblance to the modern scourge of school shootings the senselessness of motive the randomness short time later the student was Joseph Sense and his classmates were poor us a beloved University of Virginia Law Professor was shot by an unknown hand with a pistol in front of his dwelling and a newspaper from July of eighteen forty seven that reprinted an item from the Charlottesville Republican about sems death this time November twelfth eighteen forty the tradition made its way to the campus homes of the schools professors and staff Professor John Davis heard the victims the gun culture as American as Apple Pie gone totally Awry Matthew Pearl a novelist who wrote a short recently in two thousand Thirteen Jeanne Cooper a UV librarian who maintains a blog about nineteenth century UVA students tracked down a Baltimore have been put in place they had an annual tradition of blowing off steam by rioting on campus and shooting pistols in the air on the evening of Antarctica had just been discovered and on the morning of November

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Election Sunday: How Third Parties Happen (1848)

This Day In Esoteric Political History

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Election Sunday: How Third Parties Happen (1848)

"A A quick favor we are conducting our annual radio toby listener survey and we would be really grateful if you could take a few minutes to fill out the questionnaire please visit survey dot pr x dot org slash this day to tell us what you think of the show and help us learn a little bit more about you. Let's continue each other. You can also answer questions about all the other Radio Tokyo podcasts that you listened to I'll be filling it out because I listened to other Radio Tovia shows. That survey DOT PR x dot org slash this day and thanks. Our misinformation and fake news threatening democracy is democracy. Even a thing anymore does US military spending actually keep a safe buckle up the new season of things that go boom gets bumpy may have been prepping for World War three when we were hit by world war see instead, and that's only the beginning of the shadowy silent threats to our national security. Grab a beer and join host lacy healy watches over the things keeping night. Find things that go boom wherever you listen to podcasts. Hello and welcome to this day in Esoteric political history from radio. Tokyo my name is Jody Africans. Welcome to our election Sunday edition. This Day is August ninth, and on this day in eighteen, forty eight, the free soil party nominated former president Martin van Buren for its presidential ticket. So van Buren had been president obviously, he had founded the Democratic Party but now he was on a third party ticket the free soil party's main purpose ostensibly was opposing the expansion of slavery into the Western territories acquired after the war with Mexico the party did not last long, but it had a big influence, the velvet underground of late nineteenth century political parties here to discuss the free. So party Martin Van Buren and lots more is always Nicole Hammer of Columbia. Jody I guess we gotta start with your first comment at the top of our prep. Doc is where we're GONNA start, which is you WanNa talk about Martin Mutton Chops I do I think that they're probably the most important fact about him they weren glorious they stood out you know by the end they're like several inches from his face in. A. Not not length but also just like a, there's some real topography going on there like Bali shing out I think is really important here and you should know interesting fact he was only five foot six. So you can imagine like this glorious cloud of hair that encapsulated his head was a real form of presence for someone who was quite a snowman. Five foot six I was like. He could be a basketball center back in eighteen, forty, eight, foot, six, one, hundred, and fifty years go. Not The third century. That's a good point. But. Okay. So tell me about Martin van Buren. Winding paths here because they said he founded them credit party he was president for one term and not that long later he's like a slumming it with a new third party I mean he was weighing his options. Let's put it that way. Yeah. So by the time, he's up and coming in the eighteen the eighteen twenty s in New York politics the first party system, the federalist versus the Democratic Republicans for our Hamilton listeners out there is starting to fall apart and the new parties are beginning to emerge and the Democratic Party really is the first real alternative party to to emerge out of the Ashes of the old one and one of the big players in that in addition to Van Buren is Andrew Jackson and so are really two of the big driving forces behind this new party. To replace the Federalist Party, you will get the whigs a short lived, but still new party right and so the freecell party, their motto was free soil free. Speech Free Labor and free men and I'm struck by the order of priorities, their soil speech Labor men but it is it does have free men in there and it is an and it is thought of as an Anti Slavery Party I mean how? How significant is it that we have a third party sort of striking out along these lines in eighteen forty eight it's really important because van puritans goal with the Democratic Party was to reorient American politics around sort of philosophical or ideological divisions. He wanted you to have a choice of governing philosophies when you out to vote. But slavery was the most important political topic at the time, and if that was not at the heart of your political party, your political party was not going to be that long lived and that's where you get this this free soil party and eventually free speech kind of drops out of the slogan take that for what you will. But that idea of free soil free labor free men was. Absolutely in anti-slavery argument. The idea was you were better. You were more moral if you had free soil something that was available to everyone and Freeman to work at, it's kind of white Yeoman Labor ideal that is going to be really really popular and lease the groundwork for the Republican Party right now, though a couple a couple of weeks ago, we get an episode about Wyoming and how is one of the first states to give the votes of? Women and we talked about how often you know these the civil rights moves have more economic motive at the heart of it in they're needing to attract women to the expansion of Western territories. I mean this is built around expansion after the war with Mexico. How much is there an economic motive here versus the more motive that you just discussed I mean when it comes to slavery, you'd take out of it. It's an economic system and immoral system so. It was very difficult for people who did not have enslaved laborers to. The same kind of prophets on the land that was two different economic systems that had at their heart though a deep moral question about who gets to be free. So yeah, I mean it's it's absolutely. But the economy is not divorced morality. A one thing I'm curious about is the influence of this party I mean it is does not exist for very long eighteen, forty to eighteen, fifty four, and then it gets absorbed into the Republican Party is this where the Republicans get their anti-slavery DNA from I mean yes. A lot of the people who had been part of the free soil party although interestingly, not Martin Van Buren become part of this new Republican party because again, like there's a reorientation of American politics constantly around slavery over the course of like decades in American history because it is the the unresolved crisis, the unresolved conflict in American society and so even though the free soil party falls apart those ideas particularly over expansion I think that that's that's the key here is that even if you were going to set aside the question of whether enslavement Would continue in the south where are you going to spread it to these new? Territories and the New Territories question was pressing because Americans White Americans in particular were constantly pressing West and claiming new territory. So what kind of territory was going to be that question was alive one for decades so this larger thing you've got a couple times, it's really fascinating to me when it comes to third parties and certainly thinking about right now in our rocky political times at the moment and this notion that you know if there's one a big galvanizing. That is when you get these battle lines drawn obviously, slavery was the case. Then I'm wondering if other parts in American history where we can point to and say, yes, you know lines were being drawn around X. and that is why we see these cleavages and parties see restructuring and when I I will confess when I think about it. Now as tumultuous is this moment feels I also can't point to of be one issue that is going to dry wage and break things apart even though at the same time, I also feel like it's totally like table that the Republican Party or democratic. Party would would fall apart and we would have a third party or or some sort of. Irreconcilable fracture. So I do think it is important to have that galvanizing thing that galvanizing thing has to seem like something that the existing parties are not addressing and I think that's the important question the way it might be a little blurry for you right now because you do have one party that's trying to address a lot of these crises and you have one party who is less interested in that but in the case of say the. Populist Party. In, the eighteen nineties the that farmers weren't being heard and neither party was fighting for direct democracy the Progressive Party in the nineteen teens the idea that reforms were not being actually addressed in the Republican or the Democratic Party, and that was actually the case with Ross Perot in the nineteen nineties that neither party was really interested in a reform but also in protecting working class whites who would benefit from things like tariffs. Yeah and I would say you know. Inequality. In this country is something that I think fits your qualification of something that Americans are starting to sense that neither party has really been addressing. Obviously, we see party the parties trying to embrace it in whatever way but even the Democratic Party seems to be playing catch up on that one. Yes. So what we often see, right? We see these third parties form, but then we see the existing parts of their smart actually. Try to absorb those pressing of those issues that happens in in each of these cases I mean the contract with America for the Republican. Party in one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, it was trying to get those Ross Perot voters by just stuffing at full of reform agenda items. So the question is, do those ideas get absorbed? We don't often see old party's following I mean the Democratic Republican? Party setup was more or less fixed by. The eighteen fifties. Yeah. It's been with us for a while. Yeah it's funny. I mean I you know I'm I'm guilty of the two and I've done that on podcast and I said well, you know there's been third parties and parties have broken up in this country before bets like not for a long while it's pretty entrenched right now. So yeah, though I will say, I, don't know I think. This is obvious question like in our lifetime. Certainly, this feels like the the moment would that is most on the table, right? I mean, maybe the nineteen nineties remember that Ross Perot had gotten a bigger share of the third party vote. I think anyone in modern political history and so there was this idea that like maybe this will be the third party that works especially because Perot himself was. Not Agree candidate, and so the fact that he did so well suggested that the other parties where weak. Look it's impossible to predict a could absolutely happen what it would look like I. Don't think it's not gonNA look like it did in the eighteen fifties I don't think right and so when you say that, what do you mean do you mean like a party convention where? People Fr Break Off and yeah I mean one of the reasons why you have these parties falling apart is there are no longer attracting enough adherence in order to like have fully national candidates the Whig Party, for instance, runs lake three different candidates against van. Buren. When he runs for president for the first time. So that's a very fractious party with parties don't operate the same way anymore. Parties are mostly brand identity at this point because all of their powers have been outsourced things like packs and lobbyists to outside organizations to alternative media networks who might be propping up some of their messaging operations. So they're just they're just very different things than they were in the nineteenth century. and. That's kind of where I come down. Also on this in my mind often goes to like the media environment and I just think that it's so fractured that it's going to be hard. You know from a media perspective to just have one issue feel like it's dominating and sustain a conversation I mean I guess you could talk about the election of Donald Trump is one of these sort of fracturing things and I mean may have mentioned this on. The show before but you know ahead of the in in in two thousand sixteen, I think in the first episode of the Fivethirtyeight podcast which hosted in two thousand sixteen after the election I asked this question is this in the long run is Donald Trump's victory in the long run? Is GonNa be worse for the Democrats or the Republicans and I think like no one really knew and you know it's a weird question to be asking the day after. The presidency but I think we still don't have an asset and you could make the case in in either direction. But anyway I don't think we've managed to go through all this talk about third parties in this fractious moment and not actually make a prediction about whether we think there will be viable third party and that's good because we're responsible we're not in the. Prediction business here on the show were just in the looking back for lessons from the past business. So all right that brings us to the end of this episode. I. WanNa do one quick also on this day a listener Colin Hill wrote us. Thank you call and pointed out the August ninth is a significant take a couple of reasons I mean one is That this was the day in which the United States trapped a nuclear bomb on Niagara Sake Japan, and then this was also August night the day in nineteen seventy, four Nixon resigned as president of the United States We've talked about Watergate and Nixon we may again we will certainly find a chance to talk about nuclear weapons and the United States is use of. Nuclear Weapons Against Japan again, thanks calling for flagging both of those for us as well. All right that brings us to the end of the episode Nickel Hammer. Thanks to you as always. Thank you, Jodi This Day. An esoteric political history is a proud member of radio topiary from PX researcher and producer is Jacob Feldman and once again, a reminder that we are posting. Of each episode, you can find a link to that in the show notes and you can also find at this day pod dot com on our website. There's also a contact form where you can get in touch with us. You can also email us this they pot at gmail.com we'll be back on. Tuesday my name is jody again. Thanks again for listening and we'll see soon. Hey. Hi Nola wants to hide. Say. Hello The only read the credits. Radio.

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Scandal 18: The Eaton Affair

Political Scandals

00:00 sec | 5 months ago

Scandal 18: The Eaton Affair

"In the year leading up to the twenty twenty election, we're counting down the biggest scandals in American political history. This is number eighteen. The eaten affair. It was a brisk morning in Washington DC as President Andrew. Jackson ushered his cabinet members into a White House meeting room, among them were special guests. Reverend's Ezra, stiles, ely and John in Campbell. They had been invited to consult on an issue of moral delicacy. Notably, missing was Jackson's own vice president. John C Calhoun who had retreated back to his plantation home in South Carolina with his spouse. Secretary of war John Eaton was also absent, but he hadn't been invited. As the topic at hand was his wife with palpable discomfort, the group began to discuss whether Eaton's new bride Peggy was a woman with an adulterous past. Jackson defended her. The president was in sense that sect a dear lady. The wife of one of his closest friends could be victim to cruel accusations. But despite his best arguments, the room was divided. Both reverends and several cabinet members remained convinced that the gossip surrounding Peggy Eaton was true. That she was indeed a scarlet woman. Welcome to political scandals apar- cast original. I'm Richard and I'm kate. You can find all episodes of political scandals and all other park assist originals for free on spotify of our ever you listen to podcasts to stream political scandals for free on spotify just open the APP and type political scandals in the search bar. Today. We're talking about the eaten affair. A real housewives of Washington DC TALE THAT LED president. Andrew Jackson to force the resignations of nearly all of his cabinet members. Will get into the drama right after this. If Capitol Hill had a menu in the eighteen hundreds it signature dish would have been a salacious stew of gossip and government the eaten. There was no exception mixing hearsay with political fallout. That would shape America's future. However the instigators of this particular affair weren't the surly wig. Glad males of Washington but ladies and petticoats. Roasting one woman in particular Peggy Eaton, the daughter of a Scots Irish innkeeper from Washington DC. Her exclusion by political society would inspire both the downfall of an executive cabinet and the making of a future president. But to set the context for the vicious rumors surrounding Peggy. Let us. I meet her predecessor. President Jackson's wife Rachel Jackson. Rachel Donelson robards Jackson was a divorce say the former wife of a gentleman named Lewis robards. After three unhappy years of marriage, the pair separated in Seventeen, ninety and twenty year old Rachel returned to her family's estate in Nashville Tennessee. Accompanying her on the journey home was twenty three. Andrew Jackson. The pair quickly fell in love and were married in seventeen ninety one. But just two years into their nuptial bliss, they received some shocking news. robards had not finalized the divorce after all legally. He and Rachel were still married. The situation wasn't totally unheard of at the time. Divorce proceedings were imprecise, often due to shifting territories and differing state laws. This was evidenced in the reaction or lack thereof from Nashville Society to the couple's plight. They didn't find the Jackson situation much to gossip about. Rachel's divorced from robards was swiftly finalized, and she and Andrew Jackson quietly renewed their vows. Nevertheless after thirty three happy years of marriage, their past came back to haunt them. Jackson's eighteen, twenty eight presidential campaign will be covered in a future episode, but suffice it to say. A lot of mud was slung between Jackson's nascent Democratic Party and its rivals, the sitting president, John Adams and the National Republican Party. Jackson's opponents emphasized his famous temper painting him as overly passionate undisciplined. They warned that Jackson presidency would be the moral downfall of America, and they held up Rachel as proof, calling her an adulterous and A. One Republican paper inquired, ought a convicted adulteress and her paramour husband to be placed in the highest offices of this free and Christian land never mind that sixty one year old Rachel was a devout Presbyterian who read her Bible daily. For political purposes, the opposition labeled her a scarlet woman who would morally stain the White House. Jackson was powerless to shield his wife from these cruel depictions devastated throughout her husband's. Campaign she suffered a deep depression hit herself away from the world. In the days leading up to the election, Rachel lamented that she would rather be doorkeeper in the House of God, then live in that palace in Washington. Unfortunately. She got her wish. Just a few weeks after Jackson won the election in early December eighteen, twenty, eight. Rachel suffered a heart attack and died. Despite her pre existing health problems Andrew Jackson blamed Rachel sudden-death on the stress from the election. As, he laid his beloved wife to rest. He uttered a statement that would underpin his future dealings in the eaten affair. May God Almighty forgive her murderers. I never can. It was with this attitude of stubborn vengeance that the sixty one year old president elect prepared to take office. In fact in the months leading up to his inauguration, it seeped into another issue close to Jackson's heart. He was more determined than ever to support the wedding of one of his dearest friends. Senator John Eaton Tennessee to a controversial young woman. Her name of course was Peggy Margaret O'Neill or Peggy as her friends and family knew her came from an unassuming background, she was born in Seventeen, ninety nine, the daughter of Scots Irish immigrants who owned the Franklin House a Popular Boarding Lodge in Washington DC. Back then most congressmen and senators opted for temporary lodging in Washington the Franklin House was often their hotel of choice when Congress was in session. The men enjoyed its modest accommodations and gathered together in its tavern for evening shop talk. Most guests were regulars politicians. Peggy had known since she was a child when she perched on their knees and listen to their conversations after dinner. It was there that young Peggy learned to cultivate her own opinions, which she voiced with increasing liberty as she grew older. As her teen years approached Peggy developed into a striking beauty with dark hair and piercing blue eyes. She attended one of Washington's best schools for girls where she excelled in every subject including music and dance. First Lady dolley Madison. Herself Crown twelve-year-old Peggy, the best dancer at a local ball in eighteen twelve. With her position on the fringes of Washington's high society, it was only a matter of time before she was discovered by a prominent suitor. However Peggy's upbringing much as it prepared her for the upper echelons would ultimately hold her back. As a teenager, she held out her family's business by working in Franklin's tavern. Females didn't set foot in bars and rarely worked in them. Any woman who did was looked down on as promiscuous was more. Peggy didn't hesitate to insert herself in men's political discussions, speaking with unusual candor wit for a young lady of her era. Genteel ladies were not voice political perspectives, much less cast these opinions alongside men, and as Peggy began showing her face at more social events, rumors circulated among the women of Washington that she was serving Franklin House patrons as more than just the barmaid. Peggy further this stereotype by attempting to elope in eighteen fourteen, when she was just fifteen years old as she herself boasted in later years, while I was still in pellets and rolling hoops I had the attention of men, young and old enough to turn girls head. Meanwhile Washington's politicians actually praised Peggy having witnessed the breadth of her intellect from a young age. But this only fueled awareness and disdain towards her by the women of Upper Society. It was difficult for them to fathom how some unlike Peggy so free spirited, and with so many male acquaintances could possibly be chaste. And virtuous or not? Her Blythe personality was unwelcome in many a parlour. Various women made a point to snub the teenager beginning with the next first lady Elizabeth Monroe. Other hostesses followed suit making sure young Peggy got the memo to never set foot on their porches. Then, in eighteen, sixteen seventeen year, old Peggy O'Neal married someone who is considered closer to her own social rank. A thirty nine year old navy purser named John Timberlake. For being a ship's accountant, Timberlake was terrible at handling his own money. When the pair married, he was already deep in debt. In an attempt to dig himself out, he quit his position at the navy and set up shop next door to the Franklin House, but this venture only added to his bills during this time in eighteen eighteen, the young couple met a new border, twenty eight year, old widower and senator of Tennessee John Eaton. The three became fast. Friends eaten even petitioned the Senate to forgive Timberlake's debts in eighteen, twenty one, but his efforts were unsuccessful, and by eighteen twenty three. Peggy's husband had returned to his old post in the navy to make a living. In his absence, he transferred guardianship of his wife and their two young daughters over to eaten. Timberlake hoped his compatriot would keep an eye out for the families wellbeing and he did around the same time, eaten introduced peggy to his friend and fellow Tennessee senator at the time Andrew Jackson. Jackson called Peggy the smartest little woman in America. He gushed about her and letters home to Rachel saying how they all enjoyed Peggy's piano playing on Sunday evenings. This was innocent praise Rachel Jackson met and approved of Peggy herself during a visit to Washington in eighteen, twenty four. But the Jackson's senator eaten and the other Franklin House borders were fairly isolated in their regard. With her husband away at sea. Peggy's set many local tongues wagging once more. Mrs Timberlake was not doing as good wives of deployed navy men did sitting at home and pining for their husbands. She was out on the town with as her escort, and they were frequently seen conversing with each other at the Franklin House. Peggy, herself called eaten my husband's friend up Pure, honest and faithful gentlemen. There, socializing apparently took place with the full knowledge and trust of Timberlake and under the nose of Peggy's own family, no less. Still it wasn't hard for outsiders to imagine what else she and eaten might be up to. Before long the society members who had once deemed Peggy promiscuous? Devolved into calling her an adulterous. As a woman Peggy's reputation was more mercilessly assaulted than Eaton's one rumor was so bold as to suggest that she had recently miscarried. Another man's child insinuating that her husband had been gone too long to be the father. Thus, attend social atmospheres set the tone for early eighteen, twenty, eight while Jackson was campaigning for the presidency. Barely three months later on April second twenty nine year old Peggy received word that lake, who frequently suffered from emotional distress had died at sea. It would later be rumored that he had slit his own throat. Hegi for one refused to believe her husband had killed himself maintaining, he had accidentally cut himself in a fit of asthma. But Washington Society was quick to assume the worst gossip emerge that timberlake had caught wind of his wife's affairs and had committed suicide out of grief and shame. These accusations took on a more serious tone when Peggy and eaten announced their engagement in December of eighteen, twenty, eight, a mere eight months after timberlake step. Up to this point, the rumors surrounding their relationship had been idle gossip attempts to further shun peggy from gatherings, but now the whispers seem all the more valid. 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A Modern Day pyramid scheme turned sex trafficking cult doomsday predictions, religious beliefs, extra terrestrial orders find out what really happens inside a cult subscribe to colts, free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. Now back to the story. Eighteen twenty eight was a whirlwind year that April John Timberlake slit his throat at sea, leaving behind his twenty eight year, old wife, Peggy, and their two young daughters. Then in December Andrew Jackson both won the presidency and lost his wife Rachel. Tying all this together an engagement was soon announced between Jackson's friend Senator John Eaton and the widowed Mrs Timberlake. Washington society was already convinced that John Timberlake had committed suicide because Peggy was cheating on him with Eaton a rumor. That would never be confirmed. Now onlookers were shocked that the pair would remarry a mere eight months after timberlake's death. Back then it was customary for a woman to wait at least a year, if not two before remarrying a sexist standard granted that men were only expected to mourn for six months. Meanwhile the president-elect supported their engagement. Jackson reportedly told his friend eaten. Why yes major? If you love the woman and she will have you marry her by all means? And Mary. They did on New Year's Day of Eighteen, twenty, nine, defying all the raised eyebrows in Washington. Politicians like Maryland's Louis mclane quipped that Eaton had just married his mistress and the mistress of eleven dozen others. Even Margaret Bayard Smith. The forward, thinking wife of a newspaper publisher had a scathing review on day of the Wedding Smith wrote a letter describing Peggy. She has never been admitted into good. Society is very handsome and of not an inspiring character and violent temper. The ladies declare they will not go to the wedding, and if they can help, it will not let their husbands go. It's worth briefly examining why women like Smith accused Peggy of having violent temper, and what they're deeper motives were in avoiding her. Throughout her life Peggy had several friends who rose above the gender conventions, appreciating her free spirit and political opinions, but too many her charisma was interpreted as a lack of self control, something inappropriate for Genteel women, and which furthered the rumours surrounding peggy. In the early eighteen hundreds women were considered the moral gatekeepers of society as hostesses. They held great power. The ladies in Washington especially saw themselves as the rudders of morality mantis steer the young nation towards virtue and piety. In light of this rebuffing Peggy Eaton was not a simple act of meanness or jealousy, it was a moral choice meant to preserve both their own reputations and the standards of high society. It was their duty to snub her for the greater good. Which is why it was so alarming when Peggy married Senator Eaten further ingratiating herself in political, society. And as word surface that Jackson might make her husband one of the cabinet members, the wives and daughters of Washington's elite steeled themselves for a scandalous rebuttal in eighteen, twenty nine president elect Jackson was eager to include senator eaten in his new cabinet given their long history as friends. Eaten had served as an aide to General. Jackson during his army days, and the pair had been senators of Tennessee together in the early eighteen twenty S. In fact Eaton's marriage to Peggy only strengthened Jackson's resolve to promote his friend. The president elect was outraged by the gossip that called Peggy an adulterous, not least of all, because it echoed recent accusations against his late wife Rachel. With her death just weeks behind him. Jackson was poised to stick it to the same political society whom he believed had killed her. Jackson had already earned the name old. Hickory for good reason, his stubbornness and quick temper could be flipped on instantly when concerns were voiced about Peggy's reputation, he flared up saying. Do you suppose that I have been sent here by the people to consult? The ladies of Washington has to the proper persons to compose my cabinet. And so Jackson selected John Eaton for his cabinet early that Spring, naming him secretary of war. The irony of this would become increasingly clear. Meanwhile Jackson had long since chosen his vice president, a politician by the name of John. C. Calhoun. The man was no stranger to the white. House Calhoun was presently serving as vice president John Adams, but the pair had become estranged in their political views. Realizing he was no match against Adam's second presidential campaign Calhoun had crossed party lines volunteering as Jackson's running mate. It was a shrewd move. Calhoun could serve as veep for another term if Jackson were elected, positioning himself to become his successor after two terms, or perhaps he wouldn't need to wait that long. One needed only to look at Jackson to know the man was in terrible help. Old Hickory was rotting from the inside out at sixty two years old Jackson suffered from chronic pulmonary infections. Malaria dispatch Zia osteomyelitis, bronchitis and decaying teeth to name a few. Calhoun likely hoped that before the next four or eight years were up, the new commander-in-chief would drop dead, leaving the reins to him. In the meantime though he had little control over Jackson's appointment of eaten. or his own wife's reaction to it. March, second, eighteen, twenty nine, the day of Jackson's inauguration, arrived, and the wives of Washington had their first child to publicly flaunt their disdain towards Peggy. Calhoun wife Florida was chief among the detractors. Florida had tolerated visit from the Eaton's after their wedding just weeks before, but she had since determined that the buck would stop there refusing to repay the visit. Now as the WHO's who of Washington Rub, shoulders during the Presidential Ball Florida made her intentions clear, and it seemed she'd already bent the ears of other political ladies together. They made a marked effort to ignore the president's little friend peg. One by one. They switched past Mrs. Eaten in their skirts and curls refusing so much to look at her. All hopes Peggy may have had about their acceptance. Where instantly dashed and any ladies who might have begun the day wondering how to behave towards Begi would have noticed Florida's example. This was more than petty conduct dinner, parties and balls crux of Washington bureaucracy, an arena for men to make new contacts and women to forge key relationships between political families. As a cabinet wife Peggy was now one of the most important women in Washington and she was certainly one of the leading ladies of the Democratic Party. For her to be spurned by the vice president's wife and other cabinet, women spelled a huge problem for the fledgling party. As the weeks turned into months, the Eden affair emerged as a political scandal. Right smack in the middle of Jackson's cabinet, the proverbial elephant in the room. With the ladies of Washington, at its helm, onlookers sometimes referred to the scandal by its nickname. The petticoat war. It would have been far easier if Jackson had heated the writing on the wall and quickly dismissed eaten once the scandal became apparent. But Jackson dug in his heels with a vengeance. He was determined to see Peggy's reputation, come full circle, both for her sake, and for his beloved late wife, the President even went so far as to postpone his inaugural cabinet dinner for the foreseeable future, literally giving the ladies more time to mend their differences. Yet as a man, Jackson's actions held decidedly less way in a female regulated society. Even Florida's husband John Calhoun would helplessly wonder about quote. The difficulties in which Florida's behavior would probably involve me. The implications for Calhoun career remained to be seen. Meanwhile, Peggy continued in the genteel pastime of leaving her calling card at the homes of other politically connected women. Custom mandated that these ladies return the favor by paying a visit to the eaten household at a later date. But as weeks turned into months, Peggy's drawing room remained disappointingly empty. As Eliza Johnston the wife of a Louisiana Senator, admitted the movement to exclude Peggy seemed quote arbitrary. She seemed to feel bad for Peggy. Nonetheless. She felt obligated to leave her calls unreturned. In the meantime it wasn't surprising, though certainly unfair that Peggy's been John. Eaton remained indecent favor with Washingtonians. Eaten benefited from a sexual double standard, regarding male and female conduct. Whether or not the gossip about the couple was true. Peggy was irrevocably tainted in the eyes of society, while eaten maintained his favorable reputation. As one politician Richard K call put it eaten, had one blemish and thousand virtues. And so the petticoat war raged on. Washington, wise refused to attend parties where Peggy Eaton would be present save for those unavoidable events, involving foreign legations and certain. White House parties. When they were obligated show face. They simply continue to ignore Peggy. Perhaps, the most astonishing detractor was President Jackson's own niece in law and White House hostess twenty two year old Emily Donelson. Emily was the wife of Rachel's nephew. Andrew Jackson Donelson, the young couple had come to live with the widowed president in Washington with emily in the acting role of first lady. Donaldson was likely spurred along by the opinion of other cabinet. Wives like Florida, Calhoun not to mention her own moral compass, and after one call to Peggy. Emily announced that she was quote so much disgusted with what I have seen of her that I shall not visit her again. Her disdain was especially evident on July ninth. Both emily and Peggy's families were journeying from Washington DC to Norfolk Virginia via steamboat. When emily became sick and was on the verge of fainting? Peggy politely offered her a fan and some Cologne. Emily poignantly rejected. She would rather be rendered unconscious than accept a favor from Mrs Eaten. The incident left. Peggy furious with embarrassment, and she didn't waste time in returning the favor later that day. She told Emily's husband Andrew, that she felt more pity than anything for him and his wife. and Peggy remarked if things didn't go differently, President Jackson might send them packing back to Tennessee. Andrew bit his tongue. This was one of the selective instances able to be passed out from histories letters where Peggy Eaton's blunt and unladylike nature is especially clear. She didn't hesitate to voice her frustration to her own husband and the sprinkling of friends she did have. These brave friends included Mrs, Catherine Berry, the wife of Cabinet member and Postmaster General William Berry as well as a few other political wives. But Emily Donelson. Like most Washington ladies had firmly made up her mind. She give no more than minimum courtesy. She couldn't Ban Mrs. Eaten from White House events, but she could certainly keep her shoulder cold as ever. And while President Jackson chose to look the other way in his own household. It was only a matter of time before he would need to address the eaten affair head on. Coming up. Jackson makes a decision that startles the nation now back to the story. As fall of eighteen, twenty nine approach Andrew Jackson was several months into his first term as president, but so far the greater portion of his efforts had been spent trying to suppress the vicious rumors surrounding peggy eaten. Save for a couple of politicians wives who dared to pay occasional visits to peggy. The vast majority of Washington females had decided she was a scarlet woman. They couldn't risk encouraging her kind much less endangering their own reputations. And this wasn't the only pushback Jackson witnessed against Peggy, his own pastor Presbyterian Minister John N Campbell voiced disapproval towards the eaten woman. Campbell commiserated with another politically connected reverend. Ellie, who penned a series of letters to the new president, advising Jackson against keeping eaten in his cabinet? Jackson was furious and more determined than ever to clear Peggy's name as a sign of his desperation, he even hired private investigators to suss out the rumors surrounding his friend's wife to his triumph. They returned empty-handed. The president wasn't just upset about the assault on Peggy's character. He was angry that high society, a domain both operated by females and cordoned off to them should have any bearing on male politics. And so on September tenth eighteen, twenty nine, the president called a famous meeting of the cabinet. He hoped they could hash it all out in the open, putting an end to the eaten affair once and for all. Husband Secretary of war, John Eaton of course was not present. But? Neither was Vice President John Calhoun. Calhoun was currently visiting his pregnant Loretta at their home in south, Carolina. She had left Washington earlier that year citing rest and relaxation, but as politician. Virgil Maxxie plainly pointed out Florida was simply determined to shun the eaten woman. Jackson made do with the other cabinet members who are in town, and whose wives and daughters had cited against Peggy. These included Secretary of Treasury Samuel Ingram Attorney General, John. Barren and secretary of Navy. John Branch. Joining them were local reverends Ezra stiles, ely and John Campbell perpetrators in the moral issue at hand. On the sympathetic side Sat. JUST TWO FIGURES POST Master General William. Berry who had known peggy since she was a little girl, and whose wife had been friendly towards Peggy as well as Martin Van Buren. Buren was Jackson's Shrewd Secretary of state as a widower, he had no wife or daughter to cater to making him immune to the eaten malaria as he called it. Over the past few months, then buren had continued associating with Peggy a decision, which actively gained him more favor with President Jackson. Now the men shuffled awkwardly into place, as Jackson submitted the evidence or lack thereof from his recent investigation, he was determined to bend everyone to his way of thinking regardless of the persistent rumours, and when one reverend dared to contradict him, old hickory yelled. As chaste as a virgin. In his bullheaded way. Jackson left the meeting thinking. He had settled the matter though he would still withdraw his membership from Reverend Campbell's church. He was even confident enough to reschedule his long postponed Cabinet Dinner. When it rolled around two months later in November of eighteen, twenty nine. Jackson Sat John and Peggy next to him at the head of the table, making his point clear as ever. Then buren would later state that the dinner had no very marked exhibitions of bad feeling in any quarter. None. The less the guests hurried hardly through courses and back home again, not quite satisfying supper that Jackson had hoped for. The next party was hosted by Van Buren, but the pushback was the same and this time the usual cabinet wives and daughters outwardly refused to attend. Jackson may have scolded their husbands, but he couldn't as easily correct their spouses and eighteen twenty nine turned into eighteen thirty. The president felt more and more powerless over the scandal. As Senator Daniel Webster wrote in January of Eighteen thirty. The consequence of this dispute in the social world is producing great political effects and may vary probably determine who shall be successor to the present chief magistrate. His words would prove remarkably true. Up to this point. Jackson had harbored suspicions that the so-called petticoat war had its roots in the opposing national. Republican. He figured they were propagating gossip against Peggy in order to undermine his administration much as they had with his late wife Rachel during his presidential campaign. But now President Jackson wondered if the main perpetrator wasn't within his own cabinet. Not only was vice president Calhoun, the husband of Florida one of Peggy's I, believes he also seemed to be advising the other cabinet members who had cited against the Eaton's. What what really stirred distrust within the president was cal Hoon's increasing tendency to argue against his decisions. Calhoun had already flipped over from the Republican. Party, where he'd made himself an enemy of former president. John Adams. But even in his reprised role under President Jackson, the man refused to compromise on his pet projects. These included the issue of Federal Taros and states rights, and when a national import tax passed, that would negatively impact. The South Calhoun argued that individual states should be free to nullify federal laws at will. President Jackson disagreed holding firm to his belief that the federal government has final say over US states. None, the less the lines of opinion were drawn between him. And calhoun and the chasm would only continue to widen in the following months. It's impossible to address the eaten affair without mentioning the seminole letters, a series of memos that led Jackson to believe once and for all that. Calhoun could not be trusted. On May twelve eighteen thirty Jackson received a copy of a letter. His Vice President had written back in eighteen eighteen when Calhoun was his boss as secretary of war. At, the time Jackson had been an army general responsible for defending settlers from native American seminole tribes on the Georgia Spanish Florida border. Jackson had received orders to not engage with Spanish authorities or chase the seminoles into Spanish territory. But old hickory proceeded, and two British soldiers were executed in the process. Naturally an international uproar ensued, and those higher up in the US army, including Calhoun had to decide whether or not to condemn Jackson. Nothing ever came of it leading Jackson to assume. Calhoun had supported his decision now. The letters in front of him clearly showed the Calhoun had opposed military tactics. It was old news, but Jackson was dogged about loyalty. Had he known about this before the election? Calhoun name likely wouldn't have even made it on the ticket. The rift between them was now irreparable. At this point, Jackson was already at the halfway mark of his first presidential term, and he had spent a good amount of it, pulling his hair out over the eaten affair, and recently the seminole letters. Jackson knew he needed to do something to ease the tension in Washington and so it was an early eighteen, thirty one that secretary of State Martin. Van Buren proposed a daring scheme. Over the past two years van Buren had been buttering up the president, backing him up on all his decisions and socializing freely with the Eaton's. Now van Buren offered himself up as a sacrifice. If he resigned from the cabinet, it would pave the way for Jackson to ask for the resignations of other members then Jackson would be free to start from scratch building a stronger and more unified presidential cabinet. Hearing van, Buren Proposal Secretary of war eaten also volunteered to resign after all. It was his own marriage that had ignited all this drama. Inherently he and Van Buren knew that they would remain. Jackson's good graces gone, but not forgotten as it were. At his wit's end, Jackson agreed, and in the spring of eighteen, thirty, one barely two years into his first term as president. He fired his entire presidential cabinet. Well, almost all Postmaster General William. Berry was kept on for a couple reasons first, he had treated Peggy Eaton. Well second, he was facing several allegations of corruption and Jackson ever. The loyal friend felt there was a better chance of clearing berries name if he remained in office. And despite his heavy part in this debacle, John Calhoun was kept on as well. He was still vice president after all. It was a shocking turn of events for the watching nation. The press readily traced the cabinets dissolve back to Peggy The Washington national. Journal even compared it to the reign of Louis the fifteenth. Discussions of female influence on male behavior became the absorbing topic of the summer all because of one little woman, who the ladies of Washington love to hate. Meanwhile A- popular toast circulated throughout Washington that went to the next cabinet. May they all be bachelors or leave their wives at home? As the spring of eighteen thirty one turned to summer, Jackson quickly set about organizing his second cabinet. It would prove vastly more effective than the first strengthening Jackson's hand, and thus array sing calhoun chances at running against him in the next election. But for the next two years, Calhoun would remain a thorn in the president side. When Jackson tried to reward van Bjorn's loyalty by appointing him US minister to Britain Calhoun cast the tiebreaking vote against it. He reportedly gloated to a friend that this would kill him. Sir Kill Him Dead Oh. Contraire, Van Buren bounced back with a vengeance, the American public sympathized with him, as being the first to go and Jackson's cabinet, and Jackson granted Van Buren the highest honor possible appointing him as vice president for his second term. The lasting political repercussions to Peggy Eaton were clear. Van Buren who had. remained friendly towards her went onto become Jackson's vice president, and later his successor, reaping the full benefits of his initial resignation. As the eighteen sixties historian James Parton. WOULD SAUSALITO put it? The political history of the United States for the last thirty years dates from the moment when the soft hand of Mr Van, Buren touched Mrs Eaton's knocker. As. It was Calhoun resigned his post in eighteen, thirty two just months before van, Buren was due to take over as vice president. Meanwhile the Edens were appointed to Florida where Jonathan served as governor from eighteen, thirty, four to eighteen, thirty six after this, he was made ambassador to Spain where they remained for four years before returning to the states. And spent his remaining career as a lawyer, he died in eighteen, fifty, six, leaving his substantial estate to his fifty seven year old widow this time Hegi waited acceptable three years before remarrying. The lucky groom was her granddaughters Italian. Dance Teacher Nineteen Year old Antonio Book Ignani. Peggy herself did say that she did not love this third husband. My heart was in the grave with John H Eaton. and Antonio's heart was with her granddaughter Emily. Six years later. The young couple ran off to Italy together. They had two children as Antonio continued to Siphon money from his legal wife Peggy They finally divorced in Eighteen, sixty nine, leaving seventy year old. Peggy alone and penniless. She died ten years later at a home for destitute women in Washington DC. Her someone who had caused such a scandal in her day, her death was anticlimactic. But a small consolation, she had the last word. John and Florida Calhoun Emily. Donelson Andrew Jackson Martin Van Buren. And many others involved in the eaten affair had long since preceded her to the grave. And as Peggy was laid to rest alongside John Eaten, a local newspaper made the astute observation. Doubtless among the dead, populating the terrorists of the cemetery. Our some of her assailants cordially is. They may have hated her. They are now her neighbors. Thanks for listening. 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We're all wondering just how much the last thirty six seventy. Two hours were in the forty five percent number that came out from USDA. So they're telling us that Illinois has forty five percent of the corn in the ground as of Sunday. But that does not count as we said these, these latest thirty six hours of just pure pure speed out in the fields and getting that corn in the ground. We'll ask, Dan Hicks with the forecast holds when we come back. This is our FD today. Here's your livestock, summary on the RFID radio network. I am ready to Frazier Mexico is weighing its options to respond to the threat of US tariffs on all of its exports, including possible retaliation, but would rather convince the Trump administration that I negotiated solution is in the best interest of both countries I high level, Mexican delegation is in Washington this week for meetings with US officials discussing ways of reaching an agreement after President Trump threatened a five percent tariff on all Mexican imports starting June tenth unless Mexico does more to stem the flow of Central American migrants crossing its territory to reach the US the tariff would rise each month to reach twenty five percent by October Illinois cash. Hogs yesterday, L annoyed direct forty eight to a cash top of fifty five dollars. How people benefit from raising livestock, here in Illinois, rich Gebert Illinois farmer president to the Eleanor farm bureau. Grownup, livestock farm was always interesting. And I enjoy it more today than I did back then. But it did give me the opportunity to have a good work ethic learned to get up in the morning and, you know, that was difficult during my senior days at high school and college days, headed tendency, not to go to bed and respectable our, but no, it was always enjoyable farm, and getting up before daybreak in, Malcolm, the cows and getting the chores done, and go out the rest of the day's business. Eleanor farm bureau, along with beat porn milk fork, and soybean association make up the livestock development group supporting the Eleanor and livestock sector. For more information, check out Eleanor livestock dot ORG. We're back on our FD today segments. Find today is weather. Dan Hicks at freeze, notice joins us on a Tuesday. And Dan, I know is we were just talking about that planting progress. We did have a window. It was small, but I think Illinois, farmers made every minute count the last few days, I'm sure they did today. We've got kind of spotty showers across the state. The greatest coverage of rain overnight was generally in the northern half of the state, and we do have fairly spotty rain across the state today. So certainly were feels dry enough. I'm sure they're going out there again today the, you know, planning progress increased a little bit in most of the midwest. But it's hard to find too many places where the corn and being progress when up more than ten or twelve percent during the past week. So even though we had opportunities things continue to be quite slow, and especially some of the states along in east of the Mississippi in that planning progress is still way behind normal. You know here in Illinois were typically just about done with corn planning right now. And we're working toward the halfway point. And soy bean planning is typically about eighty five percent done and we're just working toward the twenty five percent category right now. So still a lot of work to be done across the midwest regarding especially soybean planning, and even some corn planning how about the next forty eight hours. I think that once again, today at least into the early to mid afternoon, there's going to be quite a few areas of Illinois, that don't have rain, so, you know where they can plant today, a lot of places. We'll be able to go into the afternoon. It looks like we're going to see an increase in coverage of showers and thunderstorms over the state late this afternoon through tomorrow. So I think that's going to slow things down. Again, this initial rain chance probably some quarter to one inch amounts to about midday on Wednesday beyond that point later in the week. It looks like the northern part of Illinois northward could see some dry time. Turning the greatest rain chances move more into the southern half of the midwest. So I think that being able to get back in the field may favor, the northern part of the state later this week, whereas farther, south the system, stalls and produce some additional rain and their meet these some fairly heavy rain amounts by the time the weekends, especially in south west southern Illinois, Missouri. Some areas could pick up easily some one to two inch rains locally heavier by the end of the week. Mary important for Eleanor farmers with the local forecast for the state, but as we talked earlier, you know, from pike county Adams county in the flooded areas those counties are touched by that. The swollen rivers out there. What about the whole mid western picture for the next six to ten days? Well, I think that what we described here, just a minute ago, kind of applies to the entire mid west that if you would use perhaps, interstate eighty is a boundary along north of that I think, is where the lightest rainfall amounts. Are going to fall on into the weekend. So the, the northern river valleys may not see enough rain to really aggravate flooding as you move farther south, I think the central and the southern midwest is the potential for heavier rainfall continues on into the weekend. So, you know, some of those rivers flooding rivers, especially in the central and southern midwest that could aggravate that situation somewhat. And, and again, as we move during that time period, I think that the, the northern in the far western parts of the midwest, probably have the best opportunity for lightest precipitation, right through the six ten day timeframe that area from zuri through the Ohio valley, that's the area that looks wettest over the next say week or ten days with the heavier rains, more persistent, rains and that would be the area where feel work progress would be the slowest, and think that would be the area where enough rain will fall to, to perhaps, even worse and somebody's flooding conditions longer. Term. You see any changes. Well, you know, not really I mean, we've been looking for the first, sign of a long, dry window, and you know, going back all the way into April. We're just not seeing that. And, and I again with, with any limited confidence out that far. It's still does not look like we're going to see any long windows of dry weather opening up here in the near future. You know, by that me, I'm thinking maybe a week or ten days of dry weather just doesn't seem to be in the cards right now. So I just have to think that, you know, June rainfall is going to be, you know, tend to be normal to at least a little bit above normal across the midwest. So, you know, these problems with wet fields with a high and flooding river levels, maybe kind of a long lasting thing on into the further end of the month of June. You know, it's unlikely we'll see the record rainfall. We saw during may. But given the situation with the wet fields and the flooding right now even normal rainfall is enough to keep these problems going for. At least a few more weeks farther into June. Do you dare talk about, you know, how long are summer might be? So even when we get these crops in, you know how do we look in August and September. Well, I think that, you know, we still have weak El Nino in the tropical civic. And typically, when you have that you don't see extremes, as far as a turnaround to heat and dryness in the mid west. I suspect that as we get into join August. We will we may see a turnaround to rainfall, you know, maybe running a little bit below normal is something to kind of watch out for during the mid to late summer, but, you know, there's no clear indication right now that things are going to completely turn around the opposite direction for mid to late summer. So, you know, I, I think that the crops that can get planted and can at this late date. Still get a decent start. There's nothing to indicate really adverse weather mid to late this summer. But again, you know it's it's always difficult to forecast. Cast that far out in the future, especially during the summertime months. It's tough here in the last few seconds though. You know, would you rather have a year as a meteorologist, like this one at least takes exciting, right? Well, it is exciting. And, you know, I come from a foreign background in my family still has a farm and I, I understand the frustration with farmers across the midwest this year where we started out with such wet soils, and it's been so wet to prevent the planning. So to meteorologist rain thunderstorms are exciting, but you have to take into account. How how it affects other people in mid Wesley he don't want. You don't want people to suffer from the weather, right? No matter whether they're farmers or otherwise share, Dan Hicks. It frees notice. More farm news and information ahead. 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National Public Radio reports that's despite early objections from Republicans NPR report C, legislation approved on a vote of three fifty four to fifty eight and all those opposing were Republicans. They add the Senate already passed that Bill, overwhelmingly Trump has said he backed the measure, even though it did not include border money with Trump signature that legislation would help. Speed relief funds to communities hit by tornadoes wildfires fall Kino's drought, flooding and other disasters. Meantime, he us is coming off the wettest. Twelve months on record, Iowa, farmers are being encouraged to post conservation practices to help them a da- PT. Here's Ross Brown. Too much rain has kept many farmers out of their fields, this spring, at a time when US farm income already is projected to drop forty five percent below at twenty thirteen high agronomy professor Jean tackle with Iowa. State university says I was weather is significantly affected by the Gulf of Mexico Jetstream which will bring excess moisture to the state for the foreseeable future visages very clear, this Jack is getting stronger. And so it's natural consequence stand our climate in the midwest should be linked to increasing rainfall. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says the period between may of last year and April twenty nineteen was the wettest twelve months since recordkeeping began in eighteen ninety five for those keeping track today corn, planting you, sixty eight percent complete. That's. In contrast to ninety seven percent this time last year in Iowa and only forty percent of soybeans are planted compared to eighty seven percent, this time of year ago after failing to get rid of its pollution, control standards at tirelessly, a multi state commission will vote this week on a plan, but let states like Virginia decide how they want to enforce clean water protections. The plan being pitched as a compromised by the Ohio river valley water sanitary commission is opposed by several environmental groups who claim it reverses efforts by states connected to the Ohio river and its watershed to prevent sewage contamination runoff pollution and toxic contamination. Gill Hess, with the national wildlife federation says maintaining regional pollution reduction goals is common sense. We need regional standards for river, that needs to be managed at a connected system, state boundaries or arbitrary. But the river is one very large river. It's nine hundred and eighty one. Miles long? And we need to think of it as a single system last year. The commission face backlash for proposing to get rid of pollution standards pressure from opponents continued at public hearings over the new plan to keep the standards in favor of states. Choosing how to enforce them. A vote is expected at the end of the Commission's meeting on Thursday in Covington, Kentucky. I'm trombones environmental groups in each of the states involved, including the national wildlife federation have sent letters in opposition to that change. And civil rights groups are cheering for a big voting rights package passed the state Senate in Nevada on Monday. It now goes to the Nevada governor penny quick, concurrence vote in this state assembly AB three forty five would establish same day voter registration, meaning people could register on election day Wesley, you'll with the ACLU of Nevada says this was a major priority for progressive groups wants Democrats took over both houses, and the governorship in twenty. Eighteen was a no go under previous legislatures previous administration. So we're just really excited to get same day registration here in Nevada. They'll also would allow election officials to establish certain universal polling locations where anyone in the county or city convoked, even if it isn't there assigned polling place. It also would allow voters to register online even on election day and during the early vote period. Opponents of the Bill say it could result in voter fraud. I'm Suzanne Potter doing also allow people to permanently requested absentee ballot rather than having to request a new one, every election. Finally, Mary Sherman, concludes our student hugger series with boards at colleges and universities in Ohio, or exploring ways to respond to hug her on campus and break down barriers to students. Excess Melissa Gilbert is with the promise house at autobahn university. Just one of roughly a dozen food pantries on Ohio college campuses. She explains college hunger highlights the. Broader issue, a food Justice. Our hope is that we never need a pantry again. And we need to find a solution to that pantries are band-aid approach, but they're in assessing, and we've got to have something to make sure nobody it was up to class hungry, or is studying for an exam and hasn't eaten in twenty four hours solutions, including creased access to food stands for college students as well as ensuring every student has a meal plan at the Commodore cupboard at Lorain county community college Sarah hide Pinner says reducing stigma is also key and their champions program trains students and staff on food insecurity. How is this actionable, how a faculty member could make strong referral colleges and universities around Ohio are fighting student hunger with food drives community gardens and fundraisers, Clifford for public news service, we are member, enlisted supported and reline at public news service dot ORG, Tom would show, episode thirteen hundred ninety four prepared a set fire to the index card of allowable opinion. Your daily dose of liberty education starts here. The Tom would show. Hey, everybody. Don't forget, my friend. Bob Murphy has an amazing new book where he takes all his critiques of Paul Krugman from over the years all these devastating smashes and organizers them in one volume according to topic, and these are topics you want a master, and Bob will help make you the master of the universe checking out at contra Krugman, book dot com, and I am the narrator of the audiobook version, and you can get that for free. When you check out the audible offer at Tom woods, audio dot com. Hi, everybody. Tom woods here took some time off this weekend while I usually take the weekends off anyway. But in particular this weekend because it was Amy's thirteenth birthday. She's my middle daughter out of the five, and we spent a lot of time together, and did some fun things. So what I'm gonna do for you folks today, rather than, again, leave you orphans here with the podcast is I'm going to share with you a talk from my past. Now this one does not have the. Oh, I don't know, the, the woods wit that you've come to expect over the years. This of this one's very straightforward because I was speaking to a group of retired folks, I believe they were called the Auburn university lifelong learners or something like that. And this was back when I lived in Auburn Alabama, and I was a resident scholar at the Musa's institute and on the side, I was giving this little lecture series in American history to this group of retirees. So I didn't try to do woods humor, and I tried to sound as reasonable as possible. So as not scare the way. But anyway, in this talk, I talk a little bit about what happened in the nineteen twenties in American history. Just some highlights, particularly areas that people don't often get right? And one of those areas not, not the whole subject of the talk by any means. But one of those areas has to do with foreign policy because everybody is under the impression from the old high school textbook that the United States was so filled isolationist during the nineteen twenties. But. This is not true. And I give a lot of evidence to show. This is not true unless you're defining isolationist in some bizarre way. It certainly does not apply to the US in the nineteen twenties. I think it's important to correct. That for a number reasons, which is one of them is to show how sloppy historians are, and how sloppy political commentators today are that they just thoughtlessly used the word isolationist to refer to the nineteen twenties. I think we cannot emphasize enough example after example of this consistent sloppiness in terminology and sloppiness in conceptualization. So we're talking about the nineteen twenties, talking some domestic stuff, some international stuff here in this particular talk much of this material that does not appear in my politically incorrect guide to American history. I did not discuss the foreign policy material the nineteen twenties in that book. I had so much. I want to talk about in that book, but they gave me a strict eighty thousand. Thousand word limit. I don't remember if I've told the story on this on the podcast before, but they said when I wrote that book eighty thousand words, you know, so I, I sent them one hundred thousand and I thought they'll be happy. Here's twenty thousand words for free for you. And they took every one of those words out the one way or another, they surgically removed. The twenty thousand extra words above the eighty thousand limit, I'd been given they showed me, we said, eighty thousand that's what we want, and it wasn't like they took the lousy parts. They just kind of took arbitrarily, they just took stuff out and what you're killing me. This stuff is great. So I did use some of that for my follow up book, thirty three questions about American history. You're not supposed to ask. I did do that anyway. I will link to both of those books at Tom. Woods dot com slash thirteen ninety four the show notes page, you can get the audiobook version of the politically incorrect guide to American history for free with the audible offer you will find at Tom. Woods, audio dot com. Com. All right. Here we go. Okay. So today, we're talking about the nineteen twenties domestic, and international. And I've got some material as I'd like to go over that is in the text that I'd like to elaborate on and some material. That's not in the twenties were inevitably brought face to face with presidents. Harding and Coolidge and historians feelings about them. And I have a little commentary about that at the beginning of my chapter on the twenties that we always get these polls of historians that presume to tell us who the great presidents were. And then they try to rank the his presidents in order of their greatness, and then we're all supposed to accept that. And so every so often the American public has to endure another one of these polls of professional historians and this practice began in one thousand nine hundred forty eight with Arthur Schlesinger, senior who pulled fifty five historians and publish the results in life magazine. And then fourteen years later, he did the same thing for the New York Times magazine. Then his son Arthur, Schlesinger junior published yet another one of these polls in nineteen ninety six and then numerous other such polls have appeared C span did such a poll, the Wall Street Journal did one last year and it just goes on. Well, who comes out on top in these polls, and as I said the occasion for bringing this up is the low ranking that the president's we're talking about today. Insistently received. Well, the top three you could probably guess, our George Washington. Abraham LINCOLN and Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Those are always the top three in these polls also toward the top in these polls are these three Theodore Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Woodrow Wilson. So the great presidents are George Washington. Abraham LINCOLN Franklin Roosevelt so-called near great presidents would include it least TR, Harry Truman and Wilson. Well, it's not surprising, given that we know where, you know what the politics of most historians are that presidents who strengthen the federal government either through new domestic initiatives or through war, typically, find themselves exalted as great whereas those who exercise their power, more modestly are relegated to the designation of average or worse. Woodrow Wilson once said that the president quote is at liberty both in law, and conscience to be as big a man, as he can unquote. Well, if he accepts this invitation, the president, that president can expect to be richly rewarded by our court historians now there was a time in American history when a powerful presidency was viewed with suspicion rather than held up as an ideal, and I'd like to quote here if I may the founder and president of this very institute, Lou Rockwell, who describes the older view of the president this way. He says the president is mostly. Figurehead in a symbol almost invisible to myself and my community. He has no public wealth at his disposal. He administers, no regulatory departments. He cannot tax us send our children into foreign wars pass out welfare to the rich or the poor appoint judges to take away, our rights to self government control, a central Bank that inflates, the money supply and brings on the business cycle, or change the laws willy nilly, according to the special interests, he likes or seeks to punish. Likewise, elections, and election campaigns. We're not the be all and end all of American liberty and again, Lou Rockwell, says, for those who do not vote do not care about politics in the old view. Their liberty is secure. They have no access to special rights, yet their rights to person property, and self-government are never in doubt, for that reason for all practical purposes, they can forget about the president and for that matter, the rest of the federal government might as well not exist. People do not, pay direct taxes to it. It doesn't tell them how to conduct their lives. It doesn't send them to foreign wars, regulate their schools pay their retirement much less employ them to spy on their fellow citizens. The government is almost invisible. We'll Alexis de Tocqueville, who was the nineteen th century's most perceptive, foreign observer of the United States observed in the eighteen thirties in some countries power exists, which though it is in a degree foreign to the social body directs it forces it to pursue a certain track in others the ruling forces divided being partly within and partly without the ranks of the people, but nothing of the kind is to be seen in the United States. Their society governs itself for itself. The president has but little power, little wealth and little glory to share among, his friends and his influence in the state is too, small for the success or ruin of faction to depend upon his elevation to power. But it doesn't sound like the presidency today. Needless to say, but that was how the presidency was viewed in those days early nineteenth century, Bob Higgs, one of the great economic historians. We have living said this, the, the people who ratified the original constitution never intended. The presidency to be a powerful office spawning, quote great men article two sections two to four which enumerate the powers of the president comprised, but four paragraphs most of which deal with appointments in minor duties, well, the twentieth, century. This minor position was transformed into a larger than life office, whose occupant is expected to exude vision, leadership and greatness. Well, this, this view of the president is what we would expect to hear in Mussalini Italy, or in any fascist regime, where the leader capital is expected to exert bold leadership on behalf of the people that you may consider this to be a cheap shot. But I've mentioned in this context. That at all Hitler once told the New York Times correspondent, I have sympathy for Mr. Franklin Roosevelt because he marches straight toward his objectives over congress lobbies, and bureaucracy Hitler later, described himself, as the only European leader who expressed quote understanding of the methods and motives of president Roosevelt, unquote. The one idea that is absolutely anathema to all such regimes is this society is capable of running its own affairs, without the paternal custodianship of a great leader and his vision. Now, the historians who were consulted in the rankings have presidential rankings, the tell us which presidents were supposed to like conceive of the ideal. President is a far seeing demi-god rather than a humble executor of the laws. Now Theodore Roosevelt is a president. I've written very negatively about in the past. He's very, very popular among great many Americans on left and right. But I've been very critical of him because I believe he basically was almost single handedly responsible for putting together this new kind of presidency where the people are taught to have a kind of superstitious reverence for the occupant of the presidency, and there he is at number four in C, Span's, two thousand poll historians that poll ranked the president's on their quote vision on quote setting an agenda, other categories included public persuasion, crisis management, economic management, moral authority, international relations administrative. Skills pursued equal Justice for all. It's all on. And on while there's nothing on there. There's no ranking on how faithful was he too, the constitution or or traditional American principles. And this is the main problem with these polls. They take for granted that there's some objective scientific standard for determining how great a president is. But of course, there is it to evaluate whether a president is any good or not. You have to have a standard of measurement, philosophical moral economic and constitutional prisons, what constitutes good economic management, a Keynesian economist will say, one thing and a free market economist, will say another. So how can you in a non-ideological way rank the president's on those grounds or what does equal Justice for all me? Well that phrase has changed over time under Andrew Jackson gender Jackson's philosophy of government. We're talking eighteen thirties, now was called Jacksonian democracy, and he used the phrase equal rights. But with Jackson meant by equal rights was that nob-? He gets anything from the government. We are equal in the sense that nobody no big business. No lobbyists. Nobody is able to use the coercive arm of the state to exploit his fellow man, that's the sense in which we're equal, nobody's getting any special privilege. Whereas today when the phrase equal rights is used nearly always refers to some kind of a grant of special privilege. So how can it be a constant category for evaluating the president's the meaning changes over time now Jeff humble, who's a professor on the west coast has argued that from the point of view of libertarians of many of whom occupied this very building. The greatest president in American history was actually, Martin van Buren. Well, some, I'm sure some people perhaps, not didn't know, Martin van Buren, was the president, but elected in eighteen thirty six van Buren had been vice president for a term under a little over a term under Andrew Jackson. Another candidate who's been proposed as the greatest president from a libertarian point of view. I've heard William Henry Harrison, only because he died a month after he got an office. We didn't have a chance to do anything bad, so therefore, he's the greatest. But Martin van Buren has been proposed and Hummel's argument is that then Puran was was was the best president because he, he resolutely supported the free market in the constitution at a time when every incentive existed for him to do otherwise. His his, his banking policies introduced what, what is arguably the greatest banking system monetary system in the United States has ever had. He also managed to avoid not one, but two unnecessary wars one with Mexico and one with Britain, which was the effect of particular significance. When we recall what the founders often said about war, and its tendency to undermine free societies. Now where does poor van Buren wind up in the presidential polls. Well, he lacked vision, I suppose, but he kept the country at peace and was resolutely committed to the constitution. Come, what may in nineteen forty eight. He was number fifteen out of twenty nine presidents nineteen sixty two he was seventeen out of thirty one and in two thousand five he was twenty seven out of forty one Arthur, Schlesinger junior complained that van Buren lacked, executive energy. Another historian described van Buren inaugural address as quote, essentially a charter for inaction by hardly need to point out. Those are bad things to the official historians who rank our presidents for us, now, the consistently low rankings of presidents like Ulysses grant, or president, we discussed today. Warren Harding are due in part to the corruption associated with their administrations now to a certain degree. That's all well and good. But what is the teapot, dome scandal compared to Woodrow Wilson's catastrophic decision in the face of strong popular opposition to involve the United States in world? War one, a horrific conflict. The very least Wilson's decision it has been argued pave the way for the ultra nationalist policies of Adolf, Hitler and the Nazis who protested punitive Versailles treaty that the allies would never have been in a position to impose without American assistance. Yet. Wilson is consistently ranked among America's best presidents. Forget the foreign policy disasters. He was responsible for the historians. Hold seem to be saying, and forget the American deaths is decisions caused the man had vision. Well, this brings us to the twenties and Harding, and Coolidge because what we'll find is although they did do more domestically than people realize in terms of building up government. The fact is that they were by twentieth. Century standards, relatively inactive and they're therefore, we're supposed to hate them in rank of low. But again, that's an ideological judgment. Okay. If you want to decide which are the best presidents, you have to decide that on the basis of your own views, and what these people did when they were in office, and whether or not they conform to your views. Well, there's a lot of scandal mongering. We could talk about with, with Harding, official scandals and personal scandals. But I hate to being a scandal longer. You know, the guy's dead. Now as it is I already condemned him in the book, you know. So let's not dwell on that too long. It is interesting to know that on two occasions, when he confronted people who had been engaged in corrupt behavior under his presidency. People went and, and committed suicide after confrontations with with Harding's. So apparently, he could be quite rough on people. But what I wanna point out focus on stead is one. In fact, he did what he did do economically. So I want to focus on the tax policies of the twenties, because they are they are worth revisiting. I mean, it seems like nothing could be less relevant than the tax policy, the twenties. But let's remember that during World War, One, the top income tax rate had been increased from seven percent to seventy three percent. Now I've got I've got students in an online course that I teach. And they all they're always flattering themselves about how wise they all are they're saying they were saying at one point. Well, we know that in our country, we would never tolerate tax rates of fifty or sixty percent. Of course, we would I said, not only would you, but you did for many years in American history. That rates were very, very high. I gave the example of in Britain, the top rate at one point was ninety five percent. That was a, a democracy. Ninety five percent with the top rate which is why in the song taxman, George Harrison says of the tax man, he's, he's putting himself in his shoes. There's one for you. Nineteen for me. That's ninety five percent rate. See had these very high rates coming in because of the war, well, after the war is over naturally, you would expect the rates to come down, and they do come down in the twenties. But as I suggested last time as tends to happen in emergencies, they never quite come down to the. Level where where they were before the emergency. They never come back down to seven that'll never happen again. I can say with absolute certainty that never in my lifetime with the top rate ever be seven percent again, but it did come down substantially in the twenties. And why is that it has a lot to do with secretary of the treasury Andrew Mellon, because he was noting that we had more and more millionaires in America. You had a lot of wealthy people. But yet you didn't have a lot of investment going on a lot of business activity. It seemed to be seem not to make sense. Why should that be? Why do we see people doing well but yet we don't see enough business expansion going on. And he concluded that it was the tax rates were too high. The vice start off something I succeed, then I get to keep twenty seven cents on the dollar and seventy three. We'll be taken away if I fail. I lose the whole doll. Well, who, who in his right mind would would consider those to be good odds so Mellon was of the opinion that the tax rates were so high. They were actually stifling business activity that what businesses would individuals. We're typically doing was instead of using their funds to open up, businesses and get people working, they were taking their money and putting it in state local municipal bonds, because they were non-taxable so states and localities were awash with cash for they had enough baseball stadium. So last them eighty years, they didn't know what to do with all the all the money. But meanwhile, the private sector was starved for capital, so what could be done so Mellon believe that if the rate were lowered people would be more willing to expose their income taxation than they are now because now that now they only get twenty seven cents on the dollar. There's no point in doing it. But if we make their reward greater we lower the rate, then it's, it's worth taking your money and putting it into a business venture. So that was his proposal that was, in fact, what was happening now this may sound a little familiar if it sounds familiar to you. It may sound like something out of the Reagan years, it worked better in the twenties than it did in the Reagan years. But basically what what's being proposed? Here is. As an antecedent of something called the Laffer curve, in the late nineteen seventies and economists named Arthur. Laffer. L A, F, F, E, R, proposed this relationship and really what Andrew Mellon the secretary of the treasury that twenty doing his antics painting this relationship. Laugher in the seventies proposed a graph. Let's see we can get one that little darker than that. And those of you who are listening in, I'm sure you can see a copy of this graph if you just do a Google search putting quotation marks Arthur Laffer, as come right up. He says, let's imagine a graph here where we've got. We got on the x axis. We got the tax rate and on the y axis we have revenue. And laugher said, well, suppose the tax rate is zero obviously, the governor will collect zero in revenue. So the point zero zero is plotted on this, and suppose the tax rate is one hundred percent that for every additional dollar above a certain amount you have to pay one hundred percent tax will in effect, the government will also get zero revenue there, because people would just stop working, or they would work under the table or they've engaged in fraud or they'd they shelter their income whatever necessary. But unless people say, oh, I'd love to be a slave take all my money away. No one's really going to do that. So effect in effect, the amount of revenue, the government would get under one hundred percent rate is, is so negligible that it may as well. Be zero. So he says these are the only two points in his graph that we know with any certainty. Can we can't plot anything else with any certain but he proposed that if we were to connect these two points, we would wind up with a graph that looked, perhaps something like this. We're I pro while the higher the tax rate becomes the more revenue. The government collects sensibly enough. But eventually as you approach one hundred percent some of the disincentive facts here at one hundred percent rate begin to come into play and people begin to withdraw their money or as I say, put it in tax shelters. Whatever they start getting that start getting the perverse effect, the rate goes up, but yet revenue goes starts going down. So he proposed that let's let's imagine this as the peak point. He says that this here is what is called the prohibitive range, that even from the government's own point of view. You wouldn't wanna tax in this range, because you're actually getting lower and lower lower revenue here. You would want tax up to this point you'd wanna attack somewhere around here. So that's what that's what laugher suggesting now he was probably suggesting something that looked a little more like this. So there was a bigger prohibitive range. Now, as I said, he doesn't quite know where that is. And in the Reagan years, there were a lot of promises that taxes are so high right now than if we lower the rates, they'll be so much business activity encouraged that the tax cuts will pay for themselves because they'll be so much new business revenue coming in with people, opening new businesses and stuff. And I think it, it was like seventeen to twenty percent was made up. But the tax cuts didn't pay for themselves the eighties, and then all the all the people who propose this later said, we never said it would pay for itself. We said it would slightly pay for itself. Well, I don't know maybe they turn the microphone off when they said slightly, but in the nineteen twenties, they did pay themselves. The rates were so high that they were actually punishing and discouraging of business activity. So that in fact, you did get more government revenue when over the course of the twentieth, the top rate was reduced from seventy three to forty and then. From forty to twenty five percent. You did get more government. Revenue. You actually got the national debt, not the deficit, the death reduced by third in the twenty s so this had tremendous consequences, and that's, that's the important thing that Mellon has to show from self. Now, this is significant and I think that although next time when we talk about the depression, and we're going to see some of the aspects of the nineteen twenties economy that were unhealthy and not sustainable. I think it's safe to say that some of these tax rate reductions were responsible for some of the twentieth prosperity. And I cite the fact that in nineteen twenty six the unemployment rate reached an unbelievable one percent, which is just unthinkable given that there are always some people who were in and out of work, and it was only one percent. The United States became in the twenties, solidified its position, as a great economic power, so that total world production. Its share of total world production was thirty four percent. So that's an astonishing figure the next closest country in share of total world production was basically tied with Britain, and Germany and they had with each ten percent. So it's an extraordinary achievement and so no they didn't. They weren't as interesting and exciting as teddy Roosevelt that had gone and safaris or anything like that. But well, you know, the country was prosperous and for the most part at peace. So it seems that probably in some ranking that account something. Now the second and last aspect, I won't show I guess this is the first part was ranking the presidents, and why that's difficult to do the second part is domestic stuff. The third part is just a brief thing about foreign policy because it's often said that in the nineteen twenty s the United States became isolationist, okay. And that, that, that was a bad thing. That's, that's actually not true. And most stories now are not really saying that anymore. First of all, the term isolationist a ridiculous word that was invented to smear people. It does not shed light in anything. I have never known anybody who was a an actual 'isolation. So just thought that we should just block our ears and everybody just sit in the corner and not have any interaction whatsoever with the rest of the world for the country. Isolation is typically somebody who disfavors neutrality, in foreign policy. That's all it means nothing nothing, nothing weird about it's all it means. Now, the reason I think some people have believed that the country became isolationists in the twenty s is I think it's two, two reasons, one is that it, it certainly was not as involved in world affairs, as it is today. So by that standard. Yes, it did it did retreat somewhat. But, you know, maybe that's not a reasonable standard of measurement. But the second thing is that there are couple of things that US government did that did have a kind of isolationist flavor to them. The first one was an increase in protective tariffs in the twenty s tariff rates went up substantially and the way you could say that's sort of an. Isolationist than you're, you're cutting yourself off from international trade, and you do that. So arguably that was some what isolated and the reductions in immigration that occurred in the twenties have argued as evidence of isolationism. Immigration was restricted to one hundred and fifty thousand people per year, which by international standards is still fairly generous. This is supposedly the meanest angriest wickedest decade of all an immigration. You're still talking about one hundred fifty thousand per year, which is about one hundred and fifty thousand more immigrants than say Japan admits to to this day, but those are the arguments there, but, but beyond that, you don't see 'isolation as we see internationalism for better or worse. I'm not endorsing or knocking any of the things about to disclose to you. But just telling the myth of isolationism in the twenties, does not hold. So, for instance, the Washington, naval conference, which was held in nineteen twenty one to twenty two brought together, the major naval powers of the world, which it'd be the US and Britain, and France and Japan and Italy. And they, they reached agreements on the limitation of armaments and this conference had real consequences. The major powers actually blew up some of their largest ships that were called capital ships. And it was based on a kind of a will Sony, and idea that large stocks of armaments tend to lead to war, and so therefore disarmament was a key to peace to that actually occurred. Now, the United States was led that occurred in the United States. So it doesn't seem like something that an isolationist country would do leading an international disarmament campaign. Of course, this is a time when air power is beginning to be more important in wars. And, and of course, the Washington, naval conference doesn't deal with air power. So. So it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't cut out everything of significance. But it does reduce naval armaments at least the United States also joined what we're called the four power packed and the nine power packed the four power pact, which consisted of the US Britain, France, and Japan, urged signatories to consult with each other matters pertaining to security in the Pacific because all of those powers had Pacific possessions. United States had the Philippines, for example. The nine power packed consisted of these four along with China and four other European countries aimed at securing what was called the open door in China. In other words, ensuring that trade with China would be open and free to all nations and would not be characterized by exclusive privileges for one country or that, that a lot of countries had sometimes tried to acquire in defiance of the week and frustrated Chinese government. So these are two examples of, of pacts in which the United States enters in which it agrees to engage in consultation with other powers. Now. Isolationism means you don't give a Dr other powers have to say so again these tend to overturn that myth. But that's sort of international diplomacy or politics. But an international economic policy of the United States was also international. Some of you may know in one thousand nine twenty three Germany experienced, one of the most destructive bouts of monetary inflation in history monitoring inflation so bad that there's a special word for it called hyper inflation that the inflation is so bad that the currency unit collapses altogether. The people would go to a bar and order to two beers at once because they drink one and then order another one the price will have doubled by the time they ordered the second one. I mean, that's how fast it's going as soon as you get the money, soon as you get paid. You have to in fact, workers were getting paid twice a day because they get paid one time. You gotta stroke just whatever by anything by anything with it, but just get it off your hands and it just sort of leads to a vicious circle. Everybody's got to get rid of it, ever people panicked, that it's going to be worth less, and less and less. There's a story of somebody. I this maybe a pocketful. Story, but had a wheelbarrow full German marks to go out shopping to set it down to look at a shop window to see if there's anything worth buying, and then turned around and found that the money was still there. But somebody had made off with a wheelbarrow. There's no no point in trying to try to run off this money. It's not worth anything. There are photographs of children who are who are using the who are glowing the worthless marks together to fly them as kites or putting them together as blocks and making pyramids out of them people burning the currency to keep warm is a complete disaster. The German government had been recklessly inflating its currency in order to make its reparations payments in inflated, therefore less valuable currency, but the strategy spun out of control, whether this hyper inflation at the height of this, hyper inflation, it took over four trillion German marks to equal. One American dollar. So in one of the government business partnerships that was increasingly common in the twenty s it was banker Charles Dawes who encouraged by the White House, put together a reconstruction plan for Germany called the Dawes plan. Does established a new payment schedule in line with Germany's ability to pay. He developed a plan to put German currency on a more stable footing and managed to raise one hundred ten million dollars in emergency loans that were issued by private bankers. Not the US government in order to see the German government through the crisis. Gauze was also able to secure French withdrawal from the Ruhr, which was a resource rich industrial area of western Germany, that the French had occupied in one thousand nine twenty three out of frustration with half-hearted German compliance with reparations payments. So again, it's not something that isolation is power, engages in Dawes ended up winning the Nobel peace prize for that and became the vice president nineteen twenty four. Now, then in nineteen twenty eight we have something called the Kellogg brianca packed some of you may know about signed by dozens of countries. And this was an international initiative. A lot of pacifists were involved in it. And the purpose of it was to try to outlaw war as an instrument of policy, and it declared aggressive war to be illegal will. All right. Nothing is easier than to ridicule this document. I mean, how are you going to enforce war being illegal, so you have to go to war, that would be okay, because they're only query declaring aggressive war to be illegal if somebody engaging aggressive war, you could still go stop them. But the thing is that no aggressor who engage an aggressive war, ever says, I'm an aggressor engaged in aggressive war, they always claim they're acting in defense or their liberators or whatever, and there was no enforcement mechanism. But whether we think this was a valuable document or a silly document or naive or whatever the point is that an isolationist. Country unconcerned with world affairs would not have spearheaded an international campaign on behalf of an initiative like this in the culture, culturally. We see an internationalist sort of spirit the United States never joined the league of nations, as you know, but it did take part in certain league activities and joined a number of league committees. There was an intern. There was a league of nations committee on internet on intellectual cooperation, this league on intellectual cooperation was formed, because intellectuals, thinkers and journalists and writers were oftentimes a shame to the way they had acted during World War One, they had just been chills for their governments. They had repeated obviously false propaganda. They had demonize the enemy, as being human. I mean, they looked in thought, gee, we're the intellectuals, we're the ones who are supposed to be above all this, and we got right down in the muck as well. And so a lot of intellectuals wanted to form an international group like this like the league's committee on intellectual cooperation. To foster international scholarly communication to hold international conferences in various subjects. So this league committee looks to, to try to bring about, for example, things like textbook revision that if there's a French textbook that says, you know, all the Germans are bar Burien, but we should probably not do that if we want to foster international understanding, so there was that type of thing or encouraged countries to learn to institute, things like the study of the history and languages of the United States, for instance, Russia, China and Japan, there now you had official at the college level. You had departments teaching the languages and cultures of these places on the understanding that the more we know about the countries of the world, the more, we understand them the less likely there will be misunderstandings that lead to war. So that was the internationalist spirit behind this wasn't just a coincidence, that these academic departments could start at the thinking was the more we know about other cultures. The more we will encourage piece it was also during the nineteen twenty th at the student exchange program. Get started, which is now it's a familiar staple of American education. In my own high school. We had a. A Swedish guy named Johann, and he was sort of, you know slightly little slightly clueless. You know. And so he was kind of cute to watch him try to cope with American life and culture. But the idea of the program was that to know them is to love them. You get to know some guy from Sweden. Well, you're less likely to go to war with Sweden. Well, I guess, in that sense. It's worked right? We've had complete nothing but peace with Sweden over the years. But the idea was that Americans will go study here, foreigners study, other places again, fostering, international understanding. And in fact, we have in addition to that, that in the twenties, there was a tremendous bout of what became known as revisionist history. Now this term revisionist history has been used so many times that it almost loses. All meaning I've been told that I've had people come to me and say, your book is great, meaning the one that you folks have your book is great because it goes after the revisionist historians, and I've had other people say your book is great. It's a great work of revisionist history. So people don't know if I'm attacking. Revisionism if I am a revisionist. Well, there isn't a fixed or stable, meaning of what the term means a revision, simply is somebody who looks at the received version of history, and then goes back and reexamined it to see if it actually is true or whether it's propaganda, and particularly revisionism, for example, revisionism after World War, One would go back and look at some of the claims made by the victors and say that did some of these things really happen did these atrocities that were claimed really happen. Or did did was Germany as the peace treaty claim was Germany really exclusively responsible for the outbreak of the war. I mean does Russia bear? No responsibility. That's France bear. No responsibility is that really true. And the thinking oftentimes among revisionists, who are engaged in their work, not only after wars, but a lotta times after wars is that sometimes wartime is not the best moment to make impartial judgments, nobody's impartial during award. You got to go after the enemy. Going to be impartial during those years. But now, when passions of cool, we gotta go back and reevaluate all these claims we made and all the bogus history, we wrote, and we're going to look at the documents and see what they tell us and in the twenties, you already began to see revisionist looks at history, like Sidney Fay, was writing articles in major, historical journals arguing Germany was not exclusively responsible for the outbreak of the war later on your head, Harry Elmer Barnes, writing that infect Germany, was perhaps the least responsible for the outbreak of the war. Now, this is all debatable. But the point is the fact that these debates were occurring as an example of revisionism, and whether you support revisionism or not the point is they thought of themselves as internationalists, what motivated, them was the idea that you cannot foster international understanding on the basis of myths. And if we're led to believe that World War, One was caused solely by some wicked devils in Germany. And that none of us bore any responsibility. Well, this is not this is no no way to base international peace to demonize one. Who are going to resent that forever. We have to look at everything impartially, and then make our judgments on that basis. So those are some examples of an international spirit that work in the twenty s. Folks. That's a very straightforward talk right there. And I'm going to juxtapose that against a very radical website created by yet another Tom which show listener. And this one is called nexus dot com. So address. AG. T nexus. N. E X, U S. You'll recall if you have a good memory that back on episode thirteen Twenty-three, we talked about algorithmic, which the creator of this site, describes as a libertarian social philosophy, that advocates, creating a society, in which all relations between people are voluntary exchanges by means of counter economics. And counter economics was the term that Sam Konkan used and it doesn't mean that we're running contrary to the laws of economics or anything like that. But rather that there's a counter economy, there's an economy in which people just treat each other like like ends in themselves. Not means to their own selfish. But we treat everybody like an end in himself, and we interact with each other non-political way, that is to say entirely without coercion. And we try to carve out some space, some freedom for ourselves in this so-called counter economy. So since address, avoid the state a lot of times, they'd rather do business with other Agra's and address nexus dot com provides a directory and a community for address as well as they post companies newsletters podcast episodes, and other important information with, emphasis on privacy, their emails, encrypted. The website has a tour mirror that provides anonymity. You should check it out address, nexus dot com. Very interesting to see a listener engaged in a worthy project like this, a very, very, very interesting indeed. So I'll link to that website also over at Tom woods dot com slash thirteen ninety four. And if you have ambitions to start a website or a blog and you'd like to get. A flood of targeted traffic from the Tom would show audience all you gotta do is go to Tom. Woods dot com slash publicity before you set up your site and get your hosting get your hosting through my link, and you'll get publicity for me and a bunch of things that are going to help make your life, a lot easier to to'real 's membership in my private bloggers group. It's a great series of bonuses. You get a Tom was dot com slash publicity. All right. See you tomorrow. Everybody. Become a smarter libertarian in just thirty minutes a day. Visit Tom woods dot com to subscribe to the show for three and we'll see in next time. Where the rubber always meets the road, a drink actually. I'm not even sure what that means speed radio network. Live at hot news feed dot com public service Kelly newscasts for Tuesday June, the fourth twenty nineteen I'm Mike Clifford, the house pushes through a disaster aid package for US victims of flooding and severe weather also on our Tuesday rundown civil rights groups, praise of voting rights measure, making progress in Vata and we clued our series of reports of college student hunger, now our top story. The house is approved a nineteen billion dollar disaster aid package. National Public Radio reports such despite early objections from Republicans NPR report C, legislation approved on a vote of three fifty four to fifty eight and all those opposing were Republicans. They add the Senate already passed that Bill. Overwhelmingly Trump has said he backed the measure, even though it did not include border money with Trump signature that legislation would help speed relief funds to communities hit by tornadoes, wildfires volcanoes drought, flooding and other disasters. Meantime, US is coming off the wettest. Twelve months on record, Iowa, farmers are being encouraged to post conservation practices to help them daft. Here's Ross Brown. Too much rain has kept many farmers out of their fields, is spring at a time. When US farm income already is projected to drop forty five percent below at twenty thirteen high agronomy professor, Jean taco with Iowa. State university says I was weather is significantly affected by the Gulf of Mexico Jetstream which will bring excess moisture to the state for the foreseeable future. There's each is very clear that this jet is getting stronger. And so it's natural consequence. There are climate in the midwest should be linked to increasing rainfall. The National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration says the period between may of last year and April twenty nineteen was the wettest twelve months since record keeping began in eighteen ninety five for those keeping track today. Corn plantings sixty eight percent complete. That's. In contrast to ninety seven percent this time last year in Iowa and only forty percent of soybeans planted compared to eighty seven percent, this time of year ago after failing to get rid of its pollution, control standards at tirelessly multi-state, conditional vote this week on a plan, but let states like Virginia decide how they want to enforce clean water protections. The plan being pitched as a compromised by the Ohio river valley water sanitary commission is opposed by several environmental groups who claim it reverses efforts by states connected to the Ohio river and its watershed to prevent sewage contamination runoff pollution and toxic contamination. Gill Hess, with the national wildlife federation says, maintaining we pollution reduction goals is common sense. We need regional standards for river, that needs to be managed a connected system. They are arbitrary, but the river is one very large river. It's nine hundred eighty one. Long. And we need to think of it as a single system last year. The commission face backlash for proposing to get rid of pollution standards pressure from opponents continued at public hearings over the new plan to keep the standards in favor of states. Choosing how to enforce them. A vote is expected at the end of the Commission's meeting on Thursday in Covington, Kentucky. I'm Trammell Gomes's environmental groups in each of the states involved, including the national wildlife federation have sent letters in opposition to that change. And civil rights groups are cheering for a big voting rights package passed the state Senate in develop on Monday. It now goes to the Nevada governor pending a quick, concurrence vote in this state assembly AB three forty five would establish same day voter registration, meaning people could register on election day Wesley, you'll with the ACLU of Nevada says this was a major priority for progressive groups wants Democrats took over both houses, and the governorship in twenty. Eighteen a Noko under BBS legislatures previous administration. So which is really excited to get same day registration here in Nevada. They'll also would allow election officials to establish certain universal polling locations where anyone in the county or city can vote even if it isn't there assigned polling place. It also would allow voters to register online even on election day and during the early vote period. Opponents of the Bill say it could result in voter fraud. I'm Suzanne Potter. That would also allow people to permanently requested absentee ballot rather than having to request a new one every election. Finally, Mary Sherman concludes our student huggers series with boards at colleges and universities in Ohio, or exploring ways to respond to hug her on campus and break down barriers to students. Success, Melissa Gilbert, is with the promise house at autobahn university. Just one of roughly a dozen food pantries on Ohio college campuses. She explains college hunger highlights the Br. Broader issue, a food Justice. Our hope is that we never need a pantry again. And we need to find a solution to that pantries are band-aid approach, but they're in assessing, and we've got to have something to make sure nobody was up to close hungry, or is in for an exam and hasn't eaten in twenty four hours solutions, including creased access to food stands for college students as well as ensuring every student has a meal plan at the Commodore covered at Lorain county community college Sarah hide Pinner says reducing stigma is also key and their champions program train students and staff on food insecurity can do. How is this actionable? How a faculty member could make strong referral colleges and universities around Ohio are fighting student hunger with food drives community gardens and fundraisers, or my Clifford for public news service. We are member listener supported, and Royal line public news service dot ORG. Welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro show. Star guest, Dennis Miller. Dennis by the way, is the host of the Dennis Miller option, which is. Available for free. Can listen to or subscribe at apple podcast Google podcast, wherever you get your podcast on the Westwood One podcast network. Well, Dennis Miller, thanks so much for showing up to the especially surprised to be here about wall ship sued and why I just I didn't know enough about him. I hear his name come up, and I also wanted to see the way land, and it was beautiful because he was so heartfelt about his religious beliefs, and when he would lean in to make a point to you, one of these heat lamps over his head with perfectly frame, his head like a halo. This is Paul. Speaking in cyclical. That left, right. There would just frame is perfectly. So for people who have fallen out of touch with you, what you been doing lately. I wanna go back all the way in a second to the beginnings of your career from birth to now, we'll get the whole life story. But what are you up to these days? I go out on the road and do my standup. I just did a special called fake news, real jokes. That was my ninth special. I go out with Mark Stein periodically we'd gotten to have a little less comedy that it doesn't turn into a think piece either. It's kind of funny, but we take questions from the audience, and that, but as far as television show I, I live up north, and I don't I'm not exactly in demand now anyway. So sort of dovetails at sixty five years old. I'm not one of these people who always wanted to hustle it into the barn. I worked hard my whole life. I'd like to travel, little, I'm trying to read everything that PG would has wrote and that's the task in itself. And I like to go hike. Net. So when people say to me now, what are you doing now? It's enjoying the fruits of busting my tail in the mining. That is Hollywood for the last thirty five years, so quick question about that special suspicious. Great. I watched last night, actually, and it didn't get distribution at some place like Netflix, you said, you're not in demand. Why do you think that is that you're not in demand? What you know what you can do the thing about your political beliefs. But I don't I think that sounds whining. You make a choice to talk out loud and let the chips fall where they may if I had to Sam six I'm sixty five I don't wanna bang that drum again. But did you I mean who gets really infrequently? Do you get super hot? When you're sixty five years old. I've had a beautiful run. I think things are in a suitable day new mall. It's not like it's not like I can't do anything but I did my choices are limited to some degree. But it seems to me that it's completely where it should be. Like, what, what do I have in common with a sixty five with a twenty five year old kid? If I sit down with many twenty five year old kids who are friends of my sons, and they're also nice. But when I watch somebody like a hail, see, breathe the I guess that's the new lexicon. But when I watch her, I think this is so obviously ill-afford, but they're enamored of her if I've acidy, the factual use social media, it's not a fact based exchange they have with her. They just like the fact that she's flipping the table on the old school. I get all that. And I think we'll, why would I appeal to them? I don't wanna be the buzzkill that comes in and know does that falcon and the snowman discussions between the dad and the kid where you're fighting with him. You're saying they shouldn't see it that way. So I'm about where I should be at sixty five or turn this into sort of a nostalgia player you grousing about the young, but I look at AO see in the same way that I look at some of the comedians the that I see working today and that is enthusiasm over skill. Do you, do you get that impression also that there's a real draw toward the enthusiastic and the authentic as opposed to the craft like actually working through things? Well, the craft I think is listen there, there's some guys that are beautiful technicians, and they literally would do syllable counts and peel back, but something main directive, obviously companies always been getting labs. Now you can go out and do it in a myriad of ways their physical comedians. Intellectual comedians. You see some guys anything. Wow. That's so smart. But for the most part, it's all about the prime directive of getting laughs. I've noticed the change is more tectonic in the it's turned, everybody's? Comedy act almost into an impersonator act like impressionists used to do that. They would have Jack Nicholson was working at the Burger King. And I was always bridal. I had that I lacked that, gene, where I could go with that, where I'd say time is one of the highest payed act. What why is he working at a fast food? But they do it. And then at the end people plaud-, and that's sort of what you Mer is now like people will make a bold statement and get applause, instead of big lapse. It's weird to me. It's sort of short-circuited the primal thing that it's an involuntary gesture where somebody says something funny, and you don't have to intellectualize it. You just find yourself. And that's the cool part of it. Now it's people going. And yeah, that's a big change for comedy, the term that I've heard used about this, as clapped her that people are not actually laughing anymore. They're just they're clapping. And this is the Hannah Gadsby version of comedy where you have think pieces now about why for thousands of years, we've actually been getting the entire concept of comedy wrong. It's not that we're supposed to laugh at things. It's supposed to if we laugh at things. It's actually bad. We're supposed to think about things, and then the thinking is the humor. It seems to me that we arE shifting the entire nature of humanity around, what a bunch of very, politically driven people wanted to be because I mean, I'm old enough to remember when Jay Leno was on television and trying to be funny. And now you've got people on TV in late night. Who I don't even know if they're trying to be funny anymore. I mean legitimately I think that Fallon, maybe the only late-night host is even making an occasional attempt to be funny. I don't know what your, your opinion is of the of the great entertainer. And I like that about him. I, I think that you have to understand if you want to at some point, you would lose those jobs. If you look, look good, Jimmy. Jimmy fallon. I've been on Jimmy Kimmel. He was nice to meet. So I have an ax to grind their. I disagree with them on many things, but he's also adroit at in his own way. But Jimmy's the entertainer to me, look, how much trouble, we got in for a simple, Herr fluff with Donald Trump. It's almost over for him at that point. Really? He's had the rally, and there is an individual's choice at some point to keep a great job. Now, listen, you can say you should make your statement. You should speak, your mind. If you're a forty five year old, Jimmy Fallon, it seems like a light, full guy, the times, I've met him over the years could kit makes me laugh on stage deadly funny. He's got the cat bird seat. He hosts what Johnny Carson is. They didn't even make them leave from New York, he's loves New York. He's probably not gonna thirty to thirty million dollars a year all win. And they say, well, listen, no more pro-trump stuff, or we're going to this is they won't even state it. But it's the old mob hit movies where they compartmentalize it they'll have to. To deal with you with extreme prejudice. He would eventually not have the gig. It's, it's just the truth. You couldn't go. Jimmy could not go out there now. And espouse anything on that side. I think at that point it's. Dion Sanders whenever he does NFL football. Somebody won't like stretch out for a pass, they'll like short Armitage. They don't get lit up and Dion. Sanders business decision. And that's the thing at some point, you have to understand the hierarchy would want you. If you went out every night and did a pro-trump Shen and this is where I feel like contrary to your own perception of yourself. I think that there probably is a growing market for somebody like you actually saying things that are both funny and somewhat conservative. Simply because if you look at Jimmy Kimmel Jimmy, like I remember when he used to do the sports thing on Kevin and bean, one of the six point seven out here and was a funny guy. And when he was doing his show with Adam Corolla on comedy central and the humor came first and now he's the pope of late night. Right. He gets up there, and he's going to rail about ObamaCare and cry on TV about ObamaCare. And I just think to myself. Well, isn't like, where's the other side of this equation, where every funny comedian seems to be being read out? And if you're moderate, that's not enough, you have to at least make overtures toward being politically woke, if you're going to survive in this even guys I like, like I think John Mullany is really funny. Mullany. He will have to at some point in his show, just dump on a certain portion of the country, so that he can get his woke credit orders that he can go about doing his normal business. I mean, isn't that leaving half? Check box for cloaking mechanism, if he doesn't everything else in his act that we shot through the prism of is he not woken up. So, yeah, they is it easier to strew it throughout. So you look for an hour, and you're doing some Tempa jokes or is better just in the middle like a sorbet. You cleanse your pallet with just come out with a thing and hold him pitcher Trump with horns on a try. You can work ends that, but in the middle you've laid it's, it's, it's offered to me how. The demanded that you establish that I won't do that. I there are times, I think Trump's buffoon. There are other times I think Trump's great at what he does. He's an infinitely better president in my eyes than he was a host of the apprentice times, I'd watch him on the apprentice and say. This is so stilted and weird and awkward at ego driven. But there are days, I watch them on as the president. And I think we, you know, when I see those union guys being led into the Oval Office and him, just saying got take some pictures, and the guy starts crying thinking about his dad, who's this, you know, the boilermaker who never got anywhere near that. I always think, well in an odd way, the most Patricia, these guys, I shouldn't say Patricia, but the billionaire guy comes in and he has a stranglehold on what the Hoi mean I'm fascinated by that. I think it was all those years of him in a hard hat walking through construction sites with the power tie on, but he also has the co- habitat. With all these cats were throwing the building out. Bree has nothing something gave him these proletariat chops, which I admire about him, you know, whenever they say, just this morning, bent. Well, he should let you ask questions about. Grant here. But I saw again this morning, that couple of democratic candidates, Castro. I forget his name is Julian Castro Castro, and somebody else that Trump reminds him of the Third Reich. Beta bait on I always look at this stuff, and I think for God sixty not see that you're not being clever about how you're playing this guy. If you do hate them, if you do hate what he wants he want him out to throw down the Hitler thing. And then here's even the backup plan on that. If you say, well, listen when you saying Hitler, like, obviously my flash card in my head is the systematic liquidation is six million of his fellow human beings. I haven't seen anything like that from Trump, and they'll say, oh, of course I didn't mean that. And you'll say, well, what other Hitler peccadillo? You know, the city mustache the bad house. Painter reviews on Angie's list, of course, when you sing soon again, this warning, even today, you've got Baidoa rooks, positing himself as a young hipster. A young hipster does not come in and say the man in the Oval Office. Right now to me, it's such an over awkward clumsy overplays is like is like a Adolf Hitler. It's a stupid to me. So I think when you say eventually people will come around, I think that they might have to because I always think they have to come out of this fevered state, or they go wait. I if I were beat this guy got to cut stop giving him a freebies by calling him Adolf Hitler in ninety proves himself not Hitler and other people are vote for this has been kind of my view of what this political moment, originally was in the first place wishes they called Mitt Romney Hitler. I mean, Joe Biden went out there and see just the Mitt Romney the most anodyne human being who has yet to walk the earth was going to put black people back in. Chains. And then I think the Republican party in a lot of people middle of the country, that you said, you know what giant middle finger with John think, with orange for let's do this thing man. And they just voted for Trump in the primaries as that. And that's the moment we live in wouldn't step up how unrequited people felt even if they liked them, they thought, oh, listen. I have this guy over for Taty, but forgotten sakes, you're going to need a doc fighter. And there you remember. I look back at Mitt Romney. And I think I remember him saying that the our biggest geopolitical threat was rush. It's so funny to me that Obama did to hipster thing engine nineteen ninety eight coal Laurie wants, you know, they're just ridiculing this man. And then the moment five minutes after Trump won that election, and they're up in that they can't believe it up in Hillary land. They immediately trigger the doomsday machine, which is Russia's bag. Flame him for Russia. And I thought it is so crazy, how they shift those things. I keep waiting for a younger candidate on the democratic side to be hip enough to come out and deny all the overplays and establish himself somewhere in the middle. It's, it's such an easy sister soldier moment to come on a couple of these things for beta Rourke. This just step up, obviously, not Adolf Hitler. Here's what he is. And, you know, lay out a few things that they have problems with. I can't believe that shows me how threatened they are on that side that nobody can see that play, maybe this. I don't even know how to say his name. Yeah, yeah. He's been the only one who's maybe he sees it and things. Jeez, I can go for mayor president because there's a whole big probably forty five percents that are predisposed to go directly against Trump in this next election. You got. I don't even know if they'll be a third party there, probably will be, but you probably have to nibble odd. Six percent, max or five point one percent max. Or if there's a third candidate you might not even have to get the fifty somebody should be smart enough, two years out to say, I gotta disengage myself from this pack that has overplaying their hand with Trump and look like the person that the moderates vote for because I do think forty five or voting for him. Forty five or not voting for him. And you start making sense to those ten and I don't think you're making sense to overplaying your hand with Trump, especially when the jobless claims to what forty nine year lows and. For me, a big thing, and I always hear I don't hear it hit enough is there were missiles flying over Japan from that nutcase Iran two years ago testing them at any at any point is he lobbed those? One could have blown up over Japan. You got war war three. Yeah. Almost half the start at the fact he's not testing him anymore. Huge thing those are sitters at the net that unwise, moderate democrat would step in and started sentenced by say, here's what I like about Trump, and then this is the shorter part of sends rates all you'd have to do if you were moderate, but do that. And boy, I'm telling you, it would be an intoxicant to a lot of undecided voters instead of thinking about asking about the future of the Republican party, and they don't want to get back into your history and how you got into all this stuff. I want to ask you about the future of the Republican party's we're talking about the Democrats who are who are off the track. They seem to be disconnected from at least a huge percentage of the American public, where do you think the future of the Republican party lies because I do think that there is a certain mythos that's been built up about President Trump as sort of great political figure, when, in fact statistically, he performs basically in line with how George W Bush performed in a lot of the swing states. How Mitt Romney performed actually at a lot of swing states. What do you think the future of the Republican party is, you're always saying that you were? Socially liberal, but fiscally, conservative. Do you think that will moving into more libertarian direction or more populous direction, where do you think the future of the conservative movement is real quickly? Just let me put a button on the DEM side of this. I think Hillary is going to be the unlikeliest cavalry riding over the hill. I honestly gotta do giving coming back. I'm looking at this her relative. Silence not all the time. But, and I think somebody told her listen, the, the less, they see you the better they play you play. You should stay out of the way we've got a circular shooting range here. The eighteen guys fourteen of them shouldn't have driver's licenses for six thirty. They could not depend on the ACT test people. You should shut up seventy five and every time I seem user, I don't want drawn to this reluctantly, but I have to help, and Joe if you're out there, and you watch bed, and, you know, probably you do I wanna tell you, stop helping me. I let you free go out and healthy yourself at eight seventy five because at this point, it's, you know, to me, he's more unhinged their shaky of the rescue dog at Phil Spector's house, and they always act like he's a funkier. I think I guess, missing that because to me, the sort of guy who looks like he thinks bottled water tastes better after his shake it. So I know Biden is going to go in. He's going to get in for the reason that they created they birth this monster this whole thing about now. Do I find it weird to Joe Biden's leaning in on E strangers? And. Smelling, their hair, I guess. It's fetishistic or so. I don't know. I don't know what that is. So I think that should be a reason he doesn't run for president. No. But do I think that might end up being a reason? Yeah. I mean that's, that's where it's at right now. But they started this stuff. You know if anybody out to that's one thing we should be able to greet to in his culture. If you said, which way is political correctness coming from the left or the right, I think, anybody would have to concede between college professors, and Hollywood social media gins that mostly the left demands that you walk in a very tight lockstep. I've been you know, on both sides of this issue over the years, and I can tell you the people on the right side up to their ass kicking a lot easier than left us. I Christians are almost used to it. You know, they are they calling for anybody's heads. Or are they, you know what I mean? It's they regularly get poke fun at. And they kind of move on with it. The left's the one who have gotten so PC now that Biden probably will be done in by the same thing that he now has two k. Peter to it's weird to watch him. Watch this will lend to thing in the same week. He has to go back and apologize for his performance at the Anita hill thing. He also has to say that I didn't really mean that mean it when I lean in, but now he has to qualify that and say, I see that's the space is different. Now try to modulate and I think, wow, it is a hard job over there, keeping up onto the daily PC casting lists. Which will they that's exactly right? Especially because the same week that Joe Biden is doing all of this stuff, the entire Democratic Party descended, and paid homage to L Sharpton, right? He was like one of the worst people in human history history, and they're all going to national action network and they're pretending like he's some sort of great political kingmaker, three decades after pulled the Justice Millette with Tawana Brawley. I you know, I met him once and I couldn't call him Reverend I interviewed him once I said, listen how I can't do. The Reverend thing you know. You know, I must admit it was pretty it was pretty easy about it. I said this to, you know this too much stuff. That's you know, you read about that haberdasher up in Harlem who was ended up getting killed. I mean this is rough stuff when you make these accusations that are false. So I don't respect. I don't respect Al Sharpton at all. And by the way, that weight loss, I think he just got to a point where he'd so violated, the sacrosanct promise of not over using the mini bar on speaking engagements, the actually had to cut it out of his writer. He got then I think that entirely filled with grey goose and tobe Laura just turned into a Macy's blue everybody. What are you doing card nine up on the minibar so much? They have to take it on my right now to watch them kiss. His ring is just unbelievable to me. And that's what I mean about that. Ten percent in the middle of that forty forty five forty five. Are going to go against him or for him that ten in the middle. I think see stuff like that says. Oh, really is he the gatekeeper now on all this is not even a good guy? Now, you had asked me before about where I think the Republicans are going. I don't know. I haven't paid attention to Republicans. It's not Republican, it's Trump. In an odd way. He is turned out to be very concerned. I mean he's lead. I would say on most big issues you're more conservative than me. I'm I'm pretty conservative. You know, he's done pretty well as far as checking conservative boxes hasn't he? Well, certainly the tax cuts with cutting regulation with appointing conservative judges moving. He he's, he's at a lot of great stuff. I mean, the one area where I think the Republican party continues to be a giant fail is, of course, on spending an entitlements, and they will be a fail for as long as Benny hill down, that this is the reason stuff that I think you can talk about where they should talk about it with him. We're spending our ass off. I don't think we're spending that the same speed that we did under Obama. But certainly, it's not enough of a thing where you go. He's notch back on that. I think that I can't judge Republicans because I don't feel Republicans been in there. I feel an unlikely conservative guy, I view Trump is the guy. We got to the place where this whole thing if they had had another eight years to sort of cement, solidify smooth over appease tamp down problems with the Hillary's. The dossier and all that if, if they had another eight years to do that. I don't think this country was coming back. And when people say, well, what do you mean coming back to you? That sounds apocalyptic. I just mean it would've turned into some huge spur Scandinavian country, and it would people over here. So just lose it would have been scammed a navy because everybody would have been beaten the system, and you wouldn't have shot for the moon anymore. All that stuff, I think, is, what would have changed, if Hillary got in, I think it would have became a single payer healthcare system. I think all these things are not the country. I grew up excited about where you went for it. So that's all I'm saying what happened do, I think it would turn into a round up everybody. No, I don't wanna be apocalyptic, about Trump actually turned around and said, now what about self determinism? What about what about we go for it as individuals? And then that makes the yield curve go up. So I admire him for that. I that's what I like about the country. I like a can-do how to toot. And I was always a puzzled. The most I ever was of Michelle. Obama's I saw her speaking one night, and on TV. And she was talking about how her father who she adored beyond all others would come home in between ships and taken our home and bouncer on the her lap is a young girl, and then he'd go back out leave, you know, it's, it's almost like caveman stuff. You leave the cave. The procure meat for the young ones, and imagine you have your dad. He's smelling g he's come from a bus does as job. He's going to another imagining young girl sitting there. We'll how there's a man for you and then later in life like why do you want to turn this stuff over to Chuck Schumer? You know what I mean? Why, why do you want your old man's government to be in charge of what was the most important moment in your life? I never I've never understood that part of it. When people say to you, why are you conservative stuff like that? I always loved the American dream. I always love the going forward. No guarantees. I always work. Well, when my cat's paws heels are backed over the abyss. This. I mean I also lead. And I think if it's all if it's all soft landing, it's like I defy people tell me they didn't use them dig the will end as more when there was no net. You know what I mean? You put the net in you're still there. But it's well they fall in and out so that, that's my big protestation with a. Entitlements. So where where did this come from? When did you actually become for realize that you were politically, conservative, but listen, I grew up in Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh's a no BS town. So we work hard for your money. So that's in my hard drive. I remember as I got older. It was important. And this was pretty late. My comparatively it wasn't a childhood thing. Admiral Stockdale was a big thing for me because I remember thinking, remember, Stockdale was picked win wins Perot. Is that? What year rose ninety two. Okay. So we're not going on seventeen years, and I remember. Twenty seven Jesus, I can't believe life's molding by like that. But he picked Stockdale and Stockdale goes on TV, and he's, you know, this is a man who was in the Hanoi Hilton for God's sakes, tapping codes of prayers to young men, who you know, they'd say Jimmy and several eight wants to die. You know, and he would pray with them through the night a more. I don't know. I always hear that. And it makes me cry thing about the kid who wants to just die just stop trying to live and die. And this man getting on and praying with them and codes pipes. It just boggles my mind at the nobility of that he goes on TV and says, I don't even know what I'm doing here. They naturally excise that clip and make him look like some doddering fool, and I'm thinking, forget, six vice presidents. We've had over the years was vice president. And, you know, I don't make fun of Quayle except I don't think he's a man. He's a historical figure to me. So certainly Stockdale could do this job. That was a big moment for me. When the left started ridiculing him. I remember thinking this rooms getting too hip, for me. If guys like that are going to be disparaged at the expense of other guys who are quite frankly, just hacks, who went into a system ages ago and know how to me much politics, as the ability, the best people outta the ability to look at the crowd, they're speaking to and point, an individ-. Plot. And actually have that individual think they must have met at some point. It's always that I always see them go, and I think there's more to it than that as about. There's a guy who doesn't know how to do that. But answers the call to save a young man slave in the most horrid situation on earth. So that was a big shift for me. You know, some of the stuff was in my hard drive. I just believe I'd like to keep fifty cents on a dollar. I think I live in the best country in the world. I think I'd like to keep one for everyone. I give away. And then when I croak, I'd like the half that I kept to go to my kids, you know, people always say, well, why do you want your kids? Did you wanted to spoil them, and I want to say, hey, why do I want to spoil your kids? I don't even know your. Yeah, my kid's give me joy about. Yeah. I'd like to keep a little that's my big for making it. And having kids has about that. So that never made the that part of it didn't make sense to be an after nine eleven. Let's see anybody who was able to like rap nine eleven up and move on get whatever people's. It's time to get behind this quick. You kidding me? It's, it's primal. It's in the hard drive now as much as I'd like people to work hard for the money. I remember thinking, oh, we gotta get serious. Now, I don't know what series is. I'm not wizard. Wonk about foreign policy, but eighteen guys were able to do that. And that's a dangerous world. So that changed me a little, too. So how did people in Hollywood react when they realized what your politics so can take me through sort of what your resume was how, what was your career progression here, because a lot of people will you at, like, certain times, people know, you from, or they know you from your show on CNBC or they know from your radio show. But what, what was the timeline and career progression? Listen when I was on us now, and I was talking about earlier about a business decision. I had some political leanings, but man when you get hired to do the news on SNL you're there to make fun of power. And that was Reagan at the time. I didn't even know that much about Reagan honest to God. I mean these people always act like they were your. I remember talking to you when you're in the amniotic sac, and you're smart. But I, I didn't pay that much attention on us to God. And I had no trouble lighting up Reagan. He was an older cat. Power. I was the weekend update anchor. You know, you're supposed to be scared Moshe. It's the you gotta come out and flourish, the capable little, so I made fun of them, but I can't even say I knew everything he stood for. But if I if I go back, I do believe we had some basic overlaps, and I've seen old specials myself where I do have a pragmatic side, that comes through, even when I'm trying to be a hipster as a young man. I would say nine eleven was a big thing. I would say stockdale's a big thing. I think just common sense is a big thing. I wasn't certain enough of my guesswork to be liberal anymore. That was such a degree of certitude about the same sort of flip a coin that most of us to as I got older. It just didn't make sense to me anymore. Some of that stuff, and as I get older, yet, it still doesn't make sense to me. Listen, they always say, oh, Trump's insane, and I guess, Obama's held up as the avatar of wisdom in that and I always say who, who loads one point eight billion onto a pallet since a wreck. I mean, I'm kind of people say, let's so naive. I can hear John Kerry and you over think it I just know they live to kill the Jews. I dig the Jews. I'm not even shooting. But I did the Jews just because they live in the craziest, call the second the world and anytime you prepackaged one point eight just the fact that they would. Ask for it in cash. I'd say, why don't I just give you check and fill the memo's section I killed Jews. You know what I mean? It's anytime you're sending unmarred cashed or read some of it's going to end up. Bombing us Abaro pizza parlor that stuff doesn't make sense to me. And why can't fake like a does I have to stop down on each issue and more? Socially, some of the liberal stuff makes sense to me, but on, on basic common sense things. So that would be my progression. I think when I was on HBO I was on there for ten seasons. I think two hundred and fifteen shows, and as I look at it I was always a pragmatist, but maybe in the second half of it. I was just more openly skeptical about some of the BS you know, I can remember having Tim Robbins on one night. And this is probably a turning point. He said, I said where he been TIMMY. What are you doing? And he said, well, I've been on the road for with Bill Clinton for two weeks painting, that's twice in your life. You had the crawl through a pipe filled which. Thank you. People look at me and I, I made a I might have gotten more open about it. It's the second to ask you. You've done a bunch of these jobs. Nominee. If you enjoy. Well, let me go through them. I was a stand up comedian. I dug it but I was broke at the beginning. You're broke. I remember being not on the road. It's brutal scene. You go into the comedy condo. And there's an drama to strain on the shower curtain like nothing clean your, but you're out there, at least then I was able to tell myself Subra, nobody throws your bone till they have to throw, you the bonds to shut up lay low keep your nose to the grindstone and get through this as quickly as possible, but you'd see club owners taking kids audition tapes, and taping. The Winter Olympics over them know it was just like gladiator can't. You know, and I thought, well, I'm going to go down hard. So, you know, I got all Spartak Assad. I look back on a non such worst. But at the time I thought, wow, just could be tough. So I got tough. And then I got a scene for Saturday Night Live. I'd have to say, that's you know, to answer the question, but we can go through the other ones if you want, but that's, that's the biggest change. I mean you know you come in from Baltimore. I remember in Baltimore gettin stomach poisoning. It as I won't say the name of the company because getting their sins, but at a plays in that all of a sudden two days later, you're healed up and you're in New York. You're on Letterman, and I remember I had addition for Saturday Night, Live and didn't get it. They showed the cast and USA today. And I remember I was so tough at that point, I even saw that picture and just, all right. Now your time, but it wasn't like I just thought it brutal. Don't waste a second. You know, being a whistle about this, get your rhino skin together, so four, John. I do Letterman. They say Lorne Michaels wants to see seventeen no I know something's out because he's not going to call me up. Lauren hates awkwardness. He's having me up to talk about something I don't know what he's going to proffer. Maybe an appearance I go up and I sit outside his office or an hour. And then they say Lauren's ready and I go in and he's sitting at the end it's such a beautiful scene. It's burned into my SCO. It's like a great end grammar or something. So I told you, they always have the bum on 'em grins. This is a good one. I can't get this out of my mind. I looked, he's got have classes on one of those beautiful green table lamps over his shoulder as the Empire State building and some treat Keller's status, and he looks Dennis, how would you like to be the week update anchor? And I said, well, I'd like that a lot. He's I see a ten and it was that's I walked out, and your life's never the same after that I find out that love Lovett's was supposed to do weekend anchor, but he was in so many things that they needed the time. This is the vagaries of life, they needed the time between. The band who would play and the weekend update to dress him out and prosthetics for some of the characters did Thus I get the gig. And so if I had to say what my biggest change was it was that. And also the most enjoyable here in the bunker. It's life in a bunker. You know how that accelerates the emotion of relationships, you've talked about, really brutal place where it's fun to. But if you screw up three weeks in a row, I mean you're gone to the point where, you know, nobody sniffs you. It's like an injured player in the NFL nobody wants to be around it. They know there's a taint on you. So I dug that action when I was a kid. I don't know if the nurse for now but at the time, it, it felt like savoir-faire then after that I went, I was looking for an exit point because I didn't want to be a guy who overstayed his welcome there. I remember in college. It was always the guy who came back after he graduated the next year and hung out near the keg. Trying to tap it and get laid. And I always what a weird scene that is. So I didn't want overstay my walk surrounds, six year point, I looked for a point to jettison the fuel module, and get out for money and. Got a nice gig in a syndicated show, but got wacked after six or eight months. I went home that was one time. I remember being hangdog, but Michael Fuchs who headed up HBO called me the next morning and I had done a couple of specials for him. And we got on and he said, listen, you know, look, your wounds heal up, and we'll do something here and he gave me three shows on the air at HBO the second one won. An EMMY, and then I got two hundred and fifteen at that point, I began to disengage from actively judging. How good my life was going through job or not job. I remember thinking, you know, I had this theory about lump in your, I'm put theory used to keep me through where I think you could get fired from a job and be like is disconsolate as you want and be in the shower the next morning. Thank god. I can't believe they whack the and all of a sudden you find a lump in your armpit as your Lila and up. And you know, your wife because what were you saying about losing the job? Honey? And you screw that. I've got a lump in my armpit. What's, what does that matter? So. Started to get that insight. I was probably in my thirties, at this point that the jobs didn't matter that much that you had to have some fun journey. At sounds a little new agey, but it was true. So I did that for a long time that ended Monday night football. I got I got that horse shot from under me and food. Two years. But I had fun. But I, I knew I wasn't long for that one, because I was trying to shoehorn what I do which is weird. Arcadia national football. I remember they'd get bail. Like, what, what is he talking reference? Tajik. I remember a cable. Can you say whatever you want? Yeah. Okay, I'll tell you a great story. We're doing a game one night and this receiver hurts his ankle. And they're wrapping it in an ace bandage. And on the air, I try to make gala laugh and the weird arcane is what makes him laugh because genius. But if you throw him off his feet, he can't gather it, and he's like a tipsy air traffic controller. It gets a little weird. So I spent all my touch to get into lab. So they show Ravin the ankle and I go, you know, I haven't seen that much fabric used since the environment. Ortis Christo wrapped the plot new bridge in Paris, and I've ever L hits these button, which cuts his voice home. Bueller? He looks is it went to keep talking. Almir are BRUCE'S done in a truck, and he fancies himself. An artificial auto. I actually him say, no, Al Krista, environmental artists good call. Good call. And I remember simultaneously delighting in that long. You can't you know they're watching football. I would've wacked me too. It was like I heard Madden left FOX, I called folks that morning. Third call Dan falls. Listen. It's G Gordon Liddy time just tell them what corner, you're going to be on this install getting hitting across perks on later today. Just rehires is I don't care that Madden has not left FOX to sit up in the Dakotas with the old lady, and drink for Pacino's day's coming over here. Sure enough, they whack us later today with a whack be too. It's the way of the world if you listen, if I'm over in L A on any given night, and I want to do stand up and I go into the improv in John Madden's on stage. They'd better home his fat ass off, too. That's the way it works. So after football do that I went to CNBC and I didn't even want to do that. But there's a number they hit I'll make the drive. That's I mean you could be all curious about show biz. But at some point they hit the number you go. I listen, I'm breadwinner, go some bread. And from there. I got I got the perfect gig which was it was on for six minutes a week with rally, right? And I didn't even have to do the heavy lifting because he didn't he didn't want me to he wanted to say. Hey Miller, there's a robot in Korea show footage or spring break. So he could show the bikini footage. Eight times. These kids, I was sort of like the hinge joint would let me like take the weird stories. I did that for five years. I made a good buck and the best thing was we'd go on the road. We're some ten thousand seats or go around, like commerce machine, and you're selling ten thousand seats. So I just wrote that I didn't do anything else for six years, but then a rally hundred what happened that end ended relatively quickly. And in the interim I've just been sort of looking for something else. But nothing's shown itself at this point. And like I said, I had a great talk with data Carvey were talking. I said, I don't know. You think it's politics car, and he's a t- think it has anything to do with the fact that we're midway through our sixty's. He's brutal to or about the nature of show biz, so at this point, I'm, I don't know. I like doing this. But, but it's not like I wake up every morning, thinking, where's the side-hustle sated? So what are your parents like I mean growing? Where did they comedy come from Ohio? I remember being in high school, and I was completely ostracized, because it was so shy. But I remember I sat in a study hall next to the star tight end on the on the football team. And under my breath. I would make him laugh. And I was just Pavlov's dog at that point, you're talking about a kid who I might as well been any Slavic walking down to the electric chair all alone, all of a sudden, the tight end says you wanna walk between classes, you know, and I'm thinking, wow. I get it. Now, I make them laugh and I'm included. So that's when I started to, you know, get funny, so I think funny is I don't think, funny, some mystical sword from the stone moment. I think you have to have a perspective. That's a little quirky. And I think the best guys have quirky perspective, but it's like Seinfeld always said you sit near the faucet. He's in most people watch the drip, good down the drain. You Cup your hands and catch the drip, put it under the jeweler's Loup feed. It back to them to make a living. It's, it's, it's less Camelot, and more. You know, just pay attention. And after the initial thing, you shouldn't let yourself be afraid after a month, you should at the beginning. It's petrified. But then I remembered the end of the month thinking, will the option is the hand is the strangers and watch them score with it. And I don't have that sort of some guys have that where they can sit behind the scenes. I, I didn't I thought force yourself through this vomit feeling and tell your own jokes brother, this is going to back up on you. So how much of your of your work do you actually craft how what's, what's your kind of workflow when you're when you're showing the whole thing, and then it's an interesting, they I don't have the memory. I used to. So what I do is put a prompt or in the back of the room, and I have a button on stage right near my right foot, and I leave the prompter off because everybody wants to do it, but just knowing that it's there bullet points if I get to a point where I'm just for. For a second. It's slipped my mind or like I said, I have the memory. I did when I was a kid I used to remember it like that. I just go like that. And the kid turns the prompt or on, on the bullet point on that, and I hit it off. And then you're good for another twenty minutes. But on a special I right. Everything the way I develop jokes is I'll go up with the ice to always try to when I was stuck on SNL. I had this big poster on my wall where, you know, Friday come Friday. Nobody wants to hear your sad tale about how you don't have weakened update together. And like you said you do if I didn't do that good for three weeks. Well for three weeks in a row, a Whitney Brown would be co hosting. So you'd get motivated a certain point. I'd think you'd better write jokes. Now you've been shut up on the whining and look up at the poster. And it said indignation what am I are Cain reference, it was like a basic, I am bec- pentameter for jugs because I would get to the point where I'd say. I went to the doctor, he said, I was a little stiff, what am I Rosie the robot? Pretty. Would signal it would trip me. And then I'd think how easy it was. You have at some point have a little you have to be debonair about it. You know, you have to be mystify it. And then you have to feel proud of it. So at the beginning, I remember I went on Letterman the first time. In biff the guy who lets you backstage after if you don't get called over says, hey, what you last two lines. So I know when the pull the curtain, and that was a big thing. I remember thinking beautiful, that demystified it for me. So eventually, you get through that part, and then we can up that I remember thinking, taking to the next level thinking, I am taking level value judgment. I did the best I could. But I remember thinking you better do some panache now, brother because they want somebody out there, it doesn't look like he's looking at his feet, shuffling acting apologetic, they wanna matador. So start getting closer to the horns that's when I started putting savoir-faire in and all the goofy affect -tations. And I just remember that the the during the week I had a perfect thing I was in new. York City, if I had a joke, I wasn't sure about you go to a club and you go up and tell it, and it doesn't have to kill. But you have to get something that lets you know it has a pulse. You know. And so it was a perfect lab. I was just smart enough to think, don't drink don't get loaded. You know, I've never done blow or anything like it was a crazy time. I just remember thinking I talked to Leto about it. He's stay on the road. He's, I know the road looks crowded, though. But I'm telling you everybody's starts killing off the road for pleasures, or the row sees is it was true. I just like wrote my jokes and shut up and didn't get loaded. And you know it, it opened up. So you're famous for being so arcane that they threw you off Monday night football because of it. So we're at all the other reasons. I wanna make a strictly that, but. Like I said, John men's the best color. And, you know, people think more wounded and dig he should do that job the moment. He wanted it. I like you said. But yes, also, the arcane doesn't only serve, but then it does it listen people like you're some cat who gets to dim sum around and said, I think it'll be this funny from loose direction. It's my one monkey trick. I got a somewhat deep Jordan, nice retrieval system. That's all I doubt that you know what I mean? It's not like I'm sitting I'm not Moliere. I'm not no coward. Everybody's got their straits. I did learn a lesson from a great coming name Richard bells early on bells ended up being an actor on law and order, right? Yeah. Then when he was young in the seventies, he ruled New York City at catch rising star. It was like Anton Levin, the dark prints man, and he was so non carrying about whether they dug him or not. There was a big lesson for me because I, I would go up there. I had this talk with Carla once when he was young on the Sullivan show. He's I look. Back. I'm coming on and practically band singer. You know. And then he just said, screw it gonna push all my chips in church. Carly came long sweater hair and a beard like looking like the prophet and he just he, he rolled the dice and said, if I'm gonna take this up the next level when I watch bells, or I remember thinking, I'm such a ask kiss out there. I'm so needy to be liked. I've got to drop that, and I find that an very important less at least in a confined space room, people don't want you to be asked. Kissy. They find it unconscious. They want you. And this, this is the objective, est in me. I'm reading atlas shrugged as we speak again. And part of it's so if part of it's weird to me part of it. The self determinism part. I find exhilarating. I remember thinking they don't want you to be up there being sucky, like Dag knees, brother, Jim in the novel. They watch me like Anchorage step up and do your thing and do it confidently. And they're freed up to dig you because they don't have to worry about your. Self esteem. You know, remember at the beginning crowds would look up and nervous laughter is them thinking, you seem reasonable nice guy, and they don't want you to fail. They diverted there shields like on Star Trek away from just flat out, laughing into protecting you in some way. If you go up and start giving off that sorta Garbo's thing that you don't care if anybody ever seige again. It's, it's, it's an intoxicant to them that showbiz somewhere writes, politics, two. Right. I mean, President Trump is that there's no question that it were never seen anybody like that. I'm telling you, here's the thing, I think about Trump say what you will about him, I think his outer voice is an entirely accurate depiction of his inner voice, there's no crazy as that is on days. I don't think Hillary Clinton's intervux so otter voice of every even had a Cup of coffee. I think that's why he's the president of the United States, right off. Yeah. I think there's very little question about that. So who are your some, some of your favorite comedians? You had to rank comedians historically, historically, where your favorites and then who, who are some people working? Now you like well. Listen, when I was a kid Jonathan winters, made me how because he was easy to understand, you could airdrop him anywhere in the world and the faces and the funny voices and his ability to improv with liberating. So I saw that when I was young that stuck in my head. Then the next thing I saw like that was Robin and his first HBO special, where he he was so untethered and Rahman became a movie star now. But when his young stand up just to watch somebody that carefree I knew I could never do that. But I remember thinking, God that must feel like a loofah scrub on your brain to go up and be, you're always, so garden in front of strangers to go up and be that unguarded must you must feel bulletproof when you walk out. So that was cool. I went to see a comedian named Kelly Monty, who was nice enough to have me backstage, and I don't even know if Kelly still with us, but I always kiss the ring because I was young kid thing I can't do Robin. But I think I can do what Kelly's doing and I don't mean proficiency wise. I just mean that sort of the lip. At Mike and imagine what a sweet man he has to have me back a kid. I know who does not even a comedian just say, I'm contemplating it for ten minutes backstage, and giving me some guidance, very important thing next guy saw was J. He demystified it for me. He was a stone killer on state. I know people. C J M tonight show, Jay, Jay smart enough to serve a task, and the task was to win that for seventeen years. And he did. That was his prime directive fof on there. He did a great model. But I'm telling you, Jay Leno offstage stage wicked. I just talked to last night. He just stoned killer. So that was important. The next guy, Seinfeld, I remember seeing Seinfeld New York and thing, well, I don't think I should watch him anymore because that's too. That's inciteful Jay was about socks dryer, but it was such a clever take. I remember he'd joke when they don't want us baby. Quit show business. It was so deft, where he said, I watch a parakeet fly into a mirror, and I always. Think. Well, sure, they're, they're low brain power, but that being said, wouldn't he want to avoid the oncoming parakeet? I remember I had to leave the room say, a man, I'm right jokes. I gotta go so big aware, because that's way down here. And so he was important. And then today, I would say the funniest man in the world's Brian Regan, who's a brilliant comet comedian, who the beauty of it is, you have kids. I don't know if you still grant the kids grandparents, but you could take all of them to this thing from ten and I don't say this about a lot of guys to eighty and they all walk out like with temporal men, Deb, your joint syndrome. They've been laughing so hard, he's a flat genius Jerry still Jerry's mount Rushmore. He's the man. And there's a cat named Sebastian Maniscalco, who does sort of a. It's about his upbringing. I think the hardest I've ever left. Always works for me as he I love doing. I made me left the party or something with Sam kennison, if you're familiar with Sam, but it was just so wrong. Like sometimes he'd be so wrong that you'd sit there and this is what we talk about with political correctness. Now, we've, we've like augured out a huge bit of, what makes you laugh, sometimes wrong or unfair or mean is what makes you let the hardest, I remember. Sam convulsing me one night. There was a group of people in from the cater ill and oil or something or in the comedy store like two in the morning. He's the last guy Sam comes out. He hasn't broken big yet he's getting big though, but he comes out he's like some pissed off goal. He's got the beret on the coat, and they don't quite know what to make them wary in from, and he starts talking to them. And they think he's nice. Yeah. Something Chris them, though. Ideally, dealing with the antics. What do you do in the guy describes and Samson's? Yeah. It sounds good. Hey, listen around three o'clock after hearing that story around three o'clock tomorrow afternoon, I'm going to be doing some yard work. And if there's anybody else in the crowd, who wants to drive by and put a pin bulletin me because I'm sad. Like, oh. People were like. It was like the beginning of the mask use on where the is coming. And that's no looking back at that. That's the hardest I've ever left I've ever seen this, I was the comedian named Jeff Cesario now. I look back on that. I don't have any choice in that. I look back on it is it like great moments in comedy, though. It's not exactly deft, but it was just so wrong and the equilibrium was so thrown off. Maybe it was nervousness, but it just made me laugh my azoff, and I often think now all that stead Sam would be out of the business that I would Rickles. I mean, I think Rickles might get through because he he was a softy. He had a good heart, but Sam was just play him out of good art, but he's more malevolent. I don't think either of those guys could work now. And that's a weird place to be. That's what I was gonna ask you next is about the modern standards. It, it, it seems to me that we actually returned to sort of puritanism about comedy, where if the only jokes that you're allowed to make our basically sex jokes, all the other jokes are out the window because they rely. Stereotypes, or they rely on observations about reality that could be offensive to somebody sexes inherently funny, so you can make a sex joke, and get away with it or you can just chock somebody by cursing, or saying something incredibly, lewd, or vulgar. But it seems like that's it's either that or or probing social commentary, meaning just left social commentary, you can watch on Maddow. So is there a future for comedy in this in this world? You know, they're always this. But I can't foresee it, you know what I mean? Something's going to happen in this country that's going on capless pressure. What was the guy's name? Ray donovan. Where do I go to get my reputation back or I think there was a guy named wall shoe, one time said have, you know, shame Hollywood's running the tightest torque Amata type thing? Now, it's, it's not McCarthyism in it's like Jenny McCarthyism. Yeah. You can be you can be kicked out in a second for saying something wrong, supposedly by the cool kids that, that, that, that makes me I never saw. I never thought I'd see that coming. And now I can't say how I see it going. But I do think there'll be some moment, where something is, overplayed, somebody who's a ranked it might almost happened with Monica Lewinsky. But she saved that dress. I mean, when you look back on that people always say, let's just an odd thing, I, thank God, they would have driven that young girl, I think into. A nervous break something's going to happen. It's going to make us all step back and go, that's, that's heavy. You know, and that's weird and we've got to start, but I can't foresee what that is. But it's going to be, it's not going to be a minor thing, some something's going to come out of this perpetually uptight attitude, that's gonna make everybody shake their head. And think, oh we've gone too far. I wonder is whether there's been too much of a merger of politics and comedy. So you're mentioning Leno before the fact that Leno really, what he really did try to play it straight when he was on tonight show, he avoiding ticking off one side at the expense of the other. He would actually tell jokes about about both sides. And now it seems like it's you're not allowed to make jokes about one side of the aisle. And you'll hear comedians say things openly like, well, there wasn't anything funny about Barack Obama and I think, to myself, how house there, nothing funny about Barack Obama. There's plenty funny about Barack. Oh, it's what makes you question. What comedy is doesn't it or in another way, it makes me question? I don't know. I don't wanna sound like I'm gonna. Shirker guard or something here. But they subject to fixation of the empirical is a great puzzlement to me. And it's why I think somewhere down the road you literally could have two plus two equaling. What the child believes it equals when you start putting intent feelings emotion ahead of what's it, equal what's what what are two twos? Or four that that's what's happened. Now is I often wonder how am I looking at Nancy Pelosi and seeing sort of disingenuous person who's been in that system for so long, or one genius is knowing how to play that, that micro world that she's in of sharp elbows? And but when I watch, I don't think she's a great intellect. And then I have other people you hear people talking about her. She's I last hope she's a great intellect. And I look at that, and I think, well, is it just egotistical for me to do you ever have this moment, where he think wh what is separating these two it's by opinion and? I start to wonder is there an actual thing out there or is there is there not is just how you see it. I want to ask you for a second about what seems to me a transformational points in comedy was was the rise of comedy central and particularly Stewart show, the that I think that Stewart show had had almost a cataclysmic impact on the merger of politics and comedy. And because it was so incredibly talented, he was able to get away with the merger of the two but it sort of killed comedy to merge it with politics and the way in the way that Stewart did where he would read a headline, and then he make a funny face at the audience and the audience would laugh simply at the headline and it wasn't an actual joke about the headline. It was just we laugh at the headline itself. And so it became that politicians were now comedians, because I can read a headline to and comics became politicians. There was an actual merger of the two and you can't separate it off. And that means there's no actual leeway for comedians anymore. It used to be that if you're a comic, you could say something deeply offensive and terrible and completely get away with it because you just say right comic. That's what I do. I'm here to value on why they came to you. Right. Exactly. And now it's well no, you're not allowed to say that just that defense is, is the comic doesn't doesn't obtain anymore because. The thing that bothered me about Stewart's routine was that it was cloned. Osan clown nose off. Sometimes it was that he was the clown. And sometimes he was not the clans when who's appear on Tucker Carlson on crossfire in ripping into the horrible things. The crossfire was doing to the world who was not being a comedian, and then he'd go back on comedy central but the clown nose back on. And I think people stop being able to tell the difference between the people who were the comedians and the people who are the politicians, and you're, you're seeing that with Kimmel right now who's being seen as a moral voice, as opposed to a guy who was supposed to make you laugh on late night. I think the job descriptions changed. I think he's hitting the job description now. And at some point, this does come down to individuals who have ceased great jobs. I really where's Jimmy Kimmel. We're going to go. We're Stephen Colbert, Stephen Colbert, was I believe in third place and probably in trouble. Trump liked it. And he's in first place that he stuck at some point. It is a Skinner box. It's your blobs. What are you going to do go over and get the electric shock? You want to corden Colonel those might be their beliefs, but I'm also. So saying, even if they weren't their beliefs really, they're gonna come out there and start. No, you wouldn't have that geic. So I can't cut through that part of it. How much is that? I do know this, the people who I think, have gone into bubble for so long, mostly in Hollywood. I think there's always a haunting thing. You hear great people telling you that people have built great fortunes talking about. I was always a little haunted. I didn't get a college degree or in always think why what does that matter? It would seem like a jerk off thing to me, but they always say that I look at the look at people in Hollywood. I think they're a little haunted by their good fortune all of them, some regret artists. But some of them have a mug that works. Some of them are at the right place at the right time. I think there are always a little haunted, so they're trying to legitimise themselves now by being a professorial and I've got some wisdom here and you're thinking, she the fifth lead on full house. I cut perch farm, alyssum Llanos, but had no feeling. But the fact is that guys like Trump Trump lived a whole life. I, I don't think he feels any need. You know what people say, how could he say those things? I don't think he's looked thinking to look wise. I think he's kind of built his what he thinks Donald Trump is. And now he's just gonna upset the entire apple cart. All I know is this. I don't watch the Oscars anymore. I had a chance to last year. But they have somebody also from you to chance to kayak solo across the Pacific with a rabid mere cat my lap. So I opted for that. But everybody goes on there to look wise now. And you go to Trump press conferences for laughs now. So when people say, well, how did we I can't even tell you how we got there much less. How we get back. But I would say if I had one hot lead on how we got there is people started people in tertiary industry. Started taking themselves serious about knowing how the world works honest to God when I go out and do my thing, I say that now these all stop at the end of my fingertips, I'm barely getting through. I've been puzzled confused mistaken my whole life that, but there's a degree of shorty now that comes along with the self righteous nature of being right. And you just look at the, you know, for instance, real quick input ticketing, but I always look back to nineteen sixty five it's a big thing for me, the institution of the great society, which was supposed to help the disenfranchise great intent, I guess, LBJ's trying to level his Clermont from the nam you know what I mean. So he's thinking. Oh here on the home front. I'll try to help the disenfranchised now the yield of that over sixty four years now two thousand and nineteen I think there was a twenty one percent single parent rate in the black community back, then I, I might be wrong. And once again, these are the subject if occasion. But I think that figures now over seventy percent. And I just say, well, you have a half a century to analyze the data field. This is not worked. We should try something else. That's the pragmatist in me people in left. I'm never. We'll never those say we just need another fifty years to get there. And you think, well, what happens if fifty years of its eighty percents single? You know what I mean? I get to a point where I go, okay? There's a decision that has to be made here. There's no decisions that are those are etched in stone over there. Sometimes, you know, people on both sides are etched in sand. It's a little bit. Bullsh- be politics. But they are definitely etched in stone on her antenna. These things that lockstep is tired to me. I don't like clogging kinda like line dancing. Liberal politics to me, liberalism, modern liberalism is like a nude beach. It sounds good till you get there. Then there's a lot of chemicals lot of misspelled tattoos as much for stopping. Really appreciate. I'm happy for you to find young men. I remember talking to years ago, saying that is, you know what you are fine. Young men. I don't I don't know that they use that term anymore, and I don't mean to embarrass you, but you're brilliant guy to people, and they know you're brilliant. And when you get beyond brilliant, you find out the guy's not a dream brilliant, but of nice young man. I'm so happy for thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Good to see the Ben Shapiro show produced by Jonathan. Hey, executive producer Jeremy boring associate producer Mathis clever. Edited by Donovan foul word audio was mixed by Dylan. Cates Herron makeup is by just what their title graphics by Cynthia and Golo. The Ben Shapiro show is daily wire production copyright daily wire twenty nine hundred. You're listening to heartland newsfeed radio network live twenty four seven at heartland newsfeed dot com. The game doesn't stop. Neither should you. Wherever you go. 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Before we get into all of the rest of the news, but day at Suci a, oh, key passed away yesterday at the age of forty one following a motorcycle accident, Kyodo reported yesterday that a okay was killed in the area of Tokyo, Monday night after his bike failed to take a curve hitting the wall of tunnel there. No further details on the exit. At this time, they okay made his debut in pro wrestling Noah beckon, two thousand five training under Jun Akiyama. He made strides. There is a Jew. Take him champion. Winning the junior taking titles two times, once with they OBT more food, g another time with tars Zouqi long with Goshi is arkie. Jun. Akiyama novacare tomorrow, yoki departed from Noah in January of twenty thirteen joined all Japan with the group forming a stable known as burning he won the junior heavyweight title on three occasions in the all Asia taking championships, three times, once with tar sukey twice with Kara Sato. He's the current A L Japan world junior champion having just won the title on may twentieth sent to defend the title against karo Sato on June. Eighteenth cork and hall. Sadly he has passed away Mike separate v actually today. Full show on this, if you wanna check it out at wrestling, observer dot com. The Ataman, Mike big audio nightmare, and that's billable, right now on the front page of wrestling, observer dot com. We can talk more about this after the break. We also. A raw and the super showdown in new Japan and so much more in, we will kick it off when we get back from the break wrestling observer life. What a fly somewhere looking for cheap flights or cheap tickets. Then call. That's right. Call the low cost airline travel hotline now for prices solo. We can't publish them anywhere. Low cost airlines has all kinds of cheap travel deals fly domestically and save up to seventy five percent you can even fly internationally and save even more. Yes. 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Mike is noted has a show on the front page about the death of sushi a-ok passed away yesterday as resulting motorcycle action eating new on the story today. Mike. Not that I've seen yet today. Unfortunately, not. No. Just that everybody's cutting come out and giving their thoughts on it, and the press conferences, Janaki Elmo, who was a okay trainer and was very close to them. Wrestling father figure, obviously very broken up over this. AO KUA scheduled, listen, twenty four hours before he died announcement was made that I believe it was June sixteenth. They were setting up matches for his next all Japan junior heavyweight title defence. That is obviously now up in the air what they decided to from here or skin, after to wait and see. And everything should start shaking out here in the next couple of days, surely after the funeral and everything just via very, very sad of because in a way he was kind of at the highest point of his career at forty one years old at this point. He came up in the Noah system was one of the Noah originals after the split from all Japan, pro wrestling, and unfortunately because of the way things went with that company, the timing of him coming on in the junior, heavyweight division, although he had a lot of great matches. Although a lot of great work was done, he'd probably won't get his do, just basically because of the direction that Noah took, and obviously, after Misao was death and things kind of falling apart for them. It was never the same. So when he Janaki alma, and many others left Noah in two thousand thirteen I believe it was and went to all Japan. It was kind of a real rebirth for his career. And he got a chance to stand out a little bit of a bigger fish in a smaller pond, and his he has been part of this wave that all Japan has had in the last six months, really, really the last eighteen months to where it's gotten to wear are at right now with a lot of good tidings, and good feelings about the promotion, where they're going. He was very big part of that. And. Getting crowd reactions that he had never really gotten before, really became the, you know, the old veteran, you know, the fan, the fan favorite, but, you know, he was the old veteran guy that people could get behind and the reaction he got for the last junior heavyweight championship match where he won. The belt was a real surprise and it was really something else. So very tragic situation. The motorcycle was driving in a tunnel is it's been said the just did not take the turn. Well, fortunately, hit the wall Metra how long? He he was dead upon impact or what it was. But it didn't seem like very long after the initial report came out that, that, that, that, that was the case. So just really a tragic situation and Ataman I did a breaking news audio update last night, which is up for members of the site. And again, it was real short notice the finding out. So we wanted to get something up there to talk about them. And I know you Dave mentioned him last night on wrestling observer radio as well. So it's the set situation go to the phones. You're on the air. What's going on? This is Jackie Montana. I did you listen to the part, two of the weight Keller Jon Moxley interview? I have none. No. Okay. So in the second part Jon Moxley fed brought chains the finish for summer slam last year. What was summer slam last year? Even remember. It was Brock versus Brahmin. So he said. Ron was going to try to cash in, then they would do the shield reunion. But then brought changed at the last minute. So like to the he created the, the finish where broadened like look like an idiot, and Brockton the slip out banana peel finish I have absolutely no memory of that match whatsoever. Well so what's the point of just upset at Brooke? Oh, no. I just I just found that interested in Qeisi. We don't. Yeah. All right. Well, I'll go. And listen to it and find out, I don't even remember that match. I have no memory that Mitch whatsoever. They've been fifty five Brooke Roman matches. All look it up during the break. You're so I can come on, on what they ended up doing there, but I'm not yet. And I don't. I'm not sure exactly what the point of it was other than when you have great power. You have great influence and you have the ability to try to move things. John CENA, even Roman reigns. You know but but to a point, but Brock listeners a special situation, but that also said, Vince is the, the final word and everything. So regardless of Brock getting changing, if Vince didn't want it to be changed. Yeah. You can. Yeah, you be convinced of anything, you know, and maybe somebody well, it's hard to convince but some people can Brock with the power that he has. You know, look at what he and Brock on the whole thing, with Brock throwing the belt adamant wrestlemainia and all that stuff. It was supposed to be like, working the people in the back, or whatever it was just, you know, Brock is his got, they kind of power, but he's got that kind of influence and I mean, look at Vince, nobody else does. So hey, listen. Here's another thing too, like Brooks. Not a dumb guy and rock and Paul Heyman. Are very very close. I need to go back and see what they did it summer slam. I honest to God don't remember. It's just it's a blur. All of this these angles they do, but the reality of the situation is, I mean, if, if broad didn't up looking like a geek, at the end of that deal, right there. I mean, there's no guarantee that there original idea was better. I mean whatever their original idea was I listen to the podcast. So I don't know. I mean he kind of explained it. I guess they wanna do shield reunion, or Bron was going to cash in or whatever. But I mean, there's a decent chance at whatever idea they had was. In fact, a bad idea that would've made other people look bad. I mean, quite frankly, people are going to be upset to hear about this. But if the options are gonna make Brooke lizard, look, bad, or you. Make Stroman look bad eight to say it, but brunt Strom guy got into look bad. I mean, Brock is, is a lot of people hate Brock listener. But like of the two bronze Stroman in Brooklyn, or one of them was a mover, and one of them was not granted, you could say that maybe they didn't bury brunt Strom and so much would have been a mover. But that was far from the only time that guy got buried. I mean, he got buried up and down left and right. So he did. And that's the thing is, like, you know, with all of the decisions that they may with bronze Stroman that, you know, didn't little questionable, or whatever it was. It's like, you know it was the Brockman really, really that one again. And I'd have to go back and watch it too. But it was really that bad in comparison to all the others, not that it makes it okay but, but still like you're saying what's, what are the something original could have been worse? And I don't know. Let me just go back to a oak for a second. Just because I found this interesting to he was the wrestling observer rookie of the year in two thousand six this is the year that Mr. co was the Luther as flair. Winner MVP winter for the monster year that he had Mexico. Do you know who number two was as far as a okay? I talked about having a kind of being at the peak of his game right now. You know the runner up for that award was Roman reigns. Wait, it doesn't six thousand six I have no idea was he leaky them Kenya, mega, Cody Rhodes about that. So yeah, at the talking about in a rookie year. And also, by the way, you know who finished in the running for that a word. Let's see. There was Kristal Marshall, there was Guimba. There is a handful of them that data Rodham was also in that. Oh, yeah. All right. So the big talking point on raw last night. According all these text message I've gotten is lacy and Charlotte and got a lot of time. So I'll make it quick. When I when I get in this mood. It's better that I just make it quick. That's I told all of you, it was too early to call a place Evans. And as always, I got blowback from people. Oh, no. Lacy is great O'Brien. I've seen a lot of lacy Evans, an inex- teach what you think I didn't see Lacey Evans, an XT right next very different from the main roster. They're down there. The performance center they can practice their matches most of what Lacey Evans did. In annex, t were squash matches where she said to do a bunch of moves and not go back and forth in a live setting okay? She's not ready for the main Ross right, told everybody this now, the thing that actually really riled up this morning with having to listen to people see that terrible match and conclude because this is just the story of twenty nineteen o Charlotte flare. Terrible Charlotte flair should not be in this position. She could not carry Lacey. Evans, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Listen. I don't know where this vitriol came from there's a little bit. On our board. But apparently, there's more of it on read it. Okay. I know you guys wanna live in a cave. I know you guys want to pretend but the reality is also what a horrible match with Lacey. Evans, Becky Lynch. They're matching the pay per view was horrible. It was okay for like three minutes in the final four minutes. It was wretched. So the common denominator in this is not Charlotte. 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Mike is it true that Adam summers was at my match on Saturday. I never even saw him. Yes. In actually, he tried to actually help you at one point, I guess, Marco tried to get him to hold you which, I remember this. I was definitely held I was assaulted by the fans. Yes, you were apparently at one point later on when he tried to help you. I don't know if this is true or not. But he was reported that Barry Windham had actually been paid off by somebody held up Adam in the bathroom as he tried to get out in further help you. So I think maybe very Wyndham should be joined into this lawsuit. I think Dave Peraza who did a very bias in questionable job on commentary? Very demeaning. I thought dismissive of you, I think he should be brought into this. And I think everybody should start getting sued around here, not only black label pro and independent wrestling TV dude. Marco, and his family, did all of this to me in front of Barry Windham. I mean, you wanna know why one thousand dollars per view in this lawsuit, I filed against black label pro the stunt, family and independent wrestling. And by the way, I urged everybody not to watch this match unless you wanted to ruin the stunt, family black label pro an independent writing dot TV and do you want to know what has happened in the wake of me requesting that? Well, independent wrestling dot TV is now at its highest subscriber number ever as a result of this match, and I am not making that up. You can ask them yourself new record as a result of that show, myself versus Marcos, which if I recall correctly. This is. Second time that I've set that record at independent wrestling TV, the first Markle's done Bryan Alvarez, match broke the record and this one here broke the record again. Which by the way means this Marcos done. Bryan Alvarez match broke a record that they had set earlier wrestlemainia weekend. What does that tell you draw boss win or lose the biggest Indy star in the world right now? It's want that out there Bryan over stroz house. Okay. So back to the news here. I've got my summer slam report. And okay. So did you write this? Yes. Do you know what? Summer slam two thousand eighteen was. No, I'll tell you can't remember yesterday after three straight years. This was the coronation of Roman reigns. This was the show where Roman reigns. Finally beat Brooke listener and won the championship so not booth out of the building. In fact, to do remember that. Yes. Okay. If you recall correctly. Okay. If you recall correctly. What is going on here? Cut him potato chips again. So if you recall correctly Roman reigns was supposed to be Brooke, listener wrestlemainia and the week before wrestlemainia Vince, this is all true, by the way, the week before media, Vince realized, damn guys get booed. So we changed the finish. And then they decided that they were going to do the big match at greatest real rumble. And they did the screw job finish their enrollment failed again. And I remember when wrestlemainia was over I was like, dude this guy's done. This Roman reigns. Fell it's done. It's never gonna work right now. This was the day they should pulled the trigger and they didn't. He's a failure. He lost clean middle of the ring, they will never be able to rehab this guy. And by the way, I was right. And they went with all of these goofy things where you know, we'll try to get the fans tape Brock and then maybe they'll cheer Rome in and of course. What happened was they booed both guys. And listen, I could be wrong. But if they would have done this summer, slim match enrollment would affair again because bronze Stroman cashed in dude. I'm on Brookside with this one like this was a day for him to put Roman reigns. Over. It just was like if you had bronze Roman cash in like you're hurting Roman reigns. You're hurting Brock Lessner for what was ner. Yeah. This doesn't make any sense, like the right call was for brought to put the guy over clean in the middle of the ring. It's summer slam and give him the title. And granted everything went wrong from there. But dude, I I'm on Brookside with this one. This is not nineteen seventy seven or whatever with, like, you know, Terry phone chasing Jack Brisco or something. Or, or whatever it's like you cannot go on for this long with Roman taken those kind of ELS. I mean you already had a reaction where. No, he was not Buddha. The building when he won that match. But yeah, there was a lot of people that were more booing Brock than they work-sharing Roman at that point, you know, pre leukemia and then everything changed at least for a little bit. We'll have to see how that still plays out, but you know, with Brock so if Brock when he does lose the title Roman if bra would a cashed in there. I mean so what finally lost by Frisian light? You know, when he does finally lose like what is gained from this for, for Roman at that point. Okay. You finally won one. Okay. Great. Does it mean as much you know what happens with Brock? So you lost a Roman guy, you beat over and over again. Does that mean you're done? I mean, if you're, you're trying to play around with the psychology of it, if you're Brock Leser, it just flat didn't help them out, then I mean, that was the time the time probably should've happened way before that. But you could always talk about the crowd and trying to, to make the best scenario from there. Like you said, what possibly when could you have done it? But it made any more impact rumble. I mean. When? I it says it wasn't about Braun cashing in the finish was supposed to be the shield came out to stop Braun. But instead Brock headed change to him throwing the briefcase up the ramp, and getting speared and shield never coming out. I don't know who knows if it would have been better who knows. I mean I don't know. Just I don't know. Well, it looking look at just taking over all look at their. They're, they're streaks here. And look at some of the things that they presented from core of, in the main event very corporate killing ratings in the main event from how they built up, Becky winning all matches, and then they did all that to Turner. He'll somebody who destroyed back in. A lot of shielding shields reunite is like a heel group because everybody wanted Braun to cash in. It's like if the shield came out and prevented Braun from cashing in, I mean, their heels Romans going to be even more hated right? And Roma needed that much extra help visibly, and they get they get it'll for Vinnie. He'll make the he'll in Roman the baby face. I understand why this is an issue. I mean maybe maybe dean Ambrose that it was an issue. Maybe didn't. I don't even know. I didn't listen to it. I don't know what's going on. That was the worst call to take the beginning of this show. Well, and here's the thing too. He just thought it was interesting that Brock would have some say course broadcast. Well, maybe but maybe it's just that simple. Maybe we're all just pulling it out of proportion, and you know who else has some say dean Ambrose, because dampers was asked to say some line about Roman reigns Kimia, and he refused. And so everybody, everybody does have a little bit of say, some more than others. And, and a lot of people just need to find their voice. I mean listen. Kevin. Kevin Ellen said, I don't want to go to Arabia, and they even ask why they said, okay, you don't have to go which you have to ask why. Which I thought was very interesting because now there is a precedent that next time they go to Saudi Arabia. I mean, if a number of wrestlers don't wanna go. I mean they should they should just be able to say I don't wanna go and that'll be it. Well, that will the case if people do that people need to have the Kony's to do that, though. I mean that's one again that's like the RV thing traveling to Iraq or wherever it was tribute to the troops thing, that's where like, you gotta say something, whether you're going to quote unquote buried or whatever like you know, that's just that's insane. And somebody needed to stand up for it, and I know you know, this time around several people obviously several people who can't go such, Sammy's ain't now for black Rabin told they can't go for, for different reasons, but it's like I don't know. I just. I don't know this person says he Ambrose said it made Bron look like an idiot, who didn't know what a cash in because he just stood around the ring all match waiting. Well, the reason they did that has nothing to do with Brock. The reason they did that was because they were teasing a cash in and the concern was if Braun doesn't come out, then people are just going to ignore the match enchant for Braun the entire time. So their idea was will send him out there to stay in there. And so then people won't be chanting for him now didn't work because nobody cared at all about the match. They were booing the match and they were bored, and they were throwing beach balls. I mean, the bigger issue is the entire booking of rock listener and Roman reigns at a tire summer was an utter disaster in an attempt to get Roman reigns. Cheered and it never worked. Person says shield came out the night after raw and feigns didn't turn on them. I'm done with this subject. All right. Let's see here. By the way, if you ever say, I have to go to crown point Indiana. I also refused, you fire me if you want. I don't care. I've already refused ever work there again. I hope this show if we worked on the technology is Tony been working on the fact that to try to geo block this show and sports by line in the state of Indiana. They don't deserve you. They deserve us. Well, I mean, the bigger issue is the technology of getting you on the video site. We're still trying to figure that out. Well, we'll, let's, let's pay pal technology. We can talk about about get out of here. So what do we have new Japan? Visit the super junior's finals tomorrow. We'll Osprey Shingo Takagi is the finals. Jeez. Robinson, Jon Moxley. Hey, w GPS title. I do expect title change there. I can't imagine him coming in losing his first match. I expected to beat the hell outta I know there's people that don't let us Robinson. And juice Robinson is the look awkward some ways. And some of that stuff I predict them in this. The time they're working together to just beat the absolute SF each other, and I think it's going to be great. I, I really hope that's the case. I as I was the first caller, I'm sorry if it was bad call. It wasn't a bad call. It was just it was a call about something that you nothing about in this dispend half the show trying to figure out what was going on. It's not your fault. Well, it's with this ship. I'll get out of here. I don't know why people buried the colors colors are fine callers on this show were fine. I got a about this very quickly new names for the W E performance center. I have absolutely no idea. Why Eric boob Hagen Bogin, Haagen? They changed his name now. He's Rick bugles. I mean do I need to say anything else like are we trying to stars here or what? Rick boobs. Rick bugles, Rick, boo geeze, like for just. Back in a moment. It's over live. You could win free fuel for a year in the shell great gas, giveaway wards members are automatically entered every time they purchase gate gallons or more. And if you choose new show, Vive, our nitro plus premium gasoline you get four entries. So it's time to fill up for a chance to win, not a member to join download the app or go to rewards dot com slash win. No purchase necessary. Motion ends nine one nineteen see official rules at fuelrewards dot com slash wind to enter by mail. All. 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That is that is true that you the rumors were add San credit for all of them. Yeah, there's the rumors red sentelle but it actually wasn't him, right? That's my great grandfather. So, so they say, yes, yes, well, my friend. How are you doing today? You're my friends who do I am doing great? And it's great talking to you and Mike. What's up like what's going on? I'm happy, you could be on this show and know that I know you're coming on a weird week. I don't know if you've heard because you are a big star every week, unsure territories and independent wrestling TV that, that, unfortunately, my coast, and boss, man, Brian here is, is coming off of a little bit of a disappointing showing and a horrible disciplining going. Well, I mean, let's be us you did take the l ultimately, but I mean it really it was all the fault of beyond wrestling. So I don't know if you're aware of this situation that's been going on this for Santa. But yeah, I apologize if who were a little bit less enthusiastic than normal. No. Well, it's pleasant day out. It's beautiful. It's with. Talk composite. If things won't focus on last Saturday. Let's look to the future with look beyond today and beyond wrestling tomorrow, Wednesday night. The weekly uncharted territory shows live every week, streaming on independent wrestling dot TV I will be there. The sending my discovery gauntlet championship or title, five no five O'Brien. Yeah. You know, I not making this up when I was in crunch point and shows over and stugotz of people who were there as fans in some other people who were there that are involved with black label pro, and I heard the same thing that I hear everywhere that I go from people, which is I don't watch Ronnie more. I listen to your show to get the raw recap and all that, but I got also did hear from several people who said, you know, all I've been watching lately, is I watched the annex t television show and I've been watching uncharted territory every Wednesday. So I don't know what the numbers are. I haven't even asked. But apparently there, there are a lot of any fans who are watching, and enjoying the show. So if you don't know about the show, tell us about it. Well, it's a weekly, you know, it's something beyond is doing that the branch out and give give those stands that, that maybe don't watch WWE or kinda wanna see a little bit of everything. Some of the best, indie talent talents all over and put it in a weekly two hour show, the show started eight they really don't go past ten o'clock, which makes for perfect for weekly episodic, streaming service platform and. Tomorrow night. For instance, your have my good friend, your, I guess. Okay. Kinda friend filthy, Tom. He's hard. There is your partner. Yeah. I I'm not gonna talk about the dissension in the ranks, but there's no dissension in the ranks, listen. You, you could have gone twenty minutes to see him in Everett, but oh Atta here. I will use going. I'm going to see him this weekend, and I'm gonna see him tomorrow night, he's going to be there. We're going to have orange Cassidy versus Sean yours, and like that guy either. So you know him. Yeah. I'm gonna be there. There's going to check it out at beyond wrestling. And if you haven't seen it go to independent wrestling dot TV use promo code uncharted. They'll get a complimentary twenty trials. Check it out and to check out tomorrow show. Yeah. You can also use that to get your twenties free and watch my match with Marco stunned from Saturday, which puts more money in my coffers through my lawsuits. So the promo code charted. I w TV live, you wanna to check it out and support me basically now. And Well, I, I don't know my own, and we can weak, and with this discovery Gardel it, you know, I joke in the ring. And then my opponent comes out, I don't know, who is going to be I probably short notice, and your unless you got a flight last minute, does it gets going to be tomorrow? Rose. And I mean I looked to being six and after tomorrow night, I would love if I know when I'm there next Wednesday. California loc-. I don't use that song anymore, and I'm very disgruntled with his business. So don't even don't even bother. No. I've never tussled with you in the squared circle. I never wold with you, which. Fascinating. But anytime you want to step up. It could be beyond wrestling. That would be a perfect place with put this with, with this Margot something behind us, you know, two years ago you kinda interfered in a match with Sophie communize. I did I haven't forgotten about that Brian, and I would love to have a lovely catches cans, wrapping that with you anytime, anywhere. And if we owned wrestling beyond wrestling is listening. Maybe they can facilitate that wait a second. Wait a second, wait a second. Wait. You said Brian, and you have never old before, no boy, I could be I could be remembering incorrectly. But I thought around the same time that you face off against filthy, Tom after Brian got back from the trip. And I could again I have trouble remembering things. Sometimes I thought you said you chose. Oh him out. Would you shut up? Hey, listen. I got some questions about beyond wrestling here. I'm moving on that was in a former life Antonio Thomas. I'm moving on from this now. So listen this, this, this show here. What I find interesting about it is they've chosen to run on Wednesdays. So like the positives to running on Wednesday is if you run a show for example on a weekend. I mean, there's a decent chance, you're going to be running head to head with, like fifty other wrestling shows or an inex- t takeover or a, you have C show or it, w e pay per view, or AWS show. Whatever Wednesday I mean really have that, I mean, you got the regular annex t shows or whatever people can watch those on demand. It is an interesting day to run a show. I mean obviously you've got access to a lot of talent because most people just work on the weekends. But at the same time, it's a Wednesday like I should be asking the promoter this question. But I mean, isn't it sort of a kind of a weird day to run wrestling? Hell how? All of the shows drawn is it growing? I mean it's just it's just weird kind of the shows the numbers growing by the week. This is a new concept. This is this is episode ten and in, in pro wrestling, Eddie artform. You gotta you gotta take chances and you go to do things that maybe haven't been done before, and you're not gonna know until you find out and try it. And that's what beyond wrestling is done. And drew Cordero has done a phenomenal job. You know, getting so many people on the nap in the last ten years and he's done it for me. You know, just recently these past few months, and it's, it's, you know people have busy during the the week. Maybe, maybe you don't feel like watching raffling during the we've made a year, you know, don't wanna watch the NBA on. Tonight or playoff game or whatnot, and you wanna wrestling sick and we're, we're seeing now that we would aid Yukos's being on a Tuesday or Wednesday or who knows there's day that people do want wrestling in the middle of the week and x t is on Wednesday night. So there's a place for it and the numbers, you know, in the in the feedback, certainly has back it up the club electric as that. They run it right there in wister, Massachusetts. They sell out the fans are right there on the apron, and anyone, you know, is beyond wrestling, which they, they should be. They know how intense the crowds aren't how great the talent is. And how great the cards are. That's one of the biggest things about beyond wrestling is they have organically grown themselves into a monster on YouTube when it comes to those views and really place that people absolutely love to work, and as a wrestling fan. It seems like one great advantage of territory. If this thing is able to hold on and take off is the fact that in an age where becoming so much more segmented when it comes to talent and talent being grabbed up by an XT or a new Japan, Oro h partnership of this partnership with that partnership, you still have some people from all over the place kind of getting together. And it feels like you know, I don't want to say like, you know, some of the feel of PWG or something like that. But it's almost the ability to have a super show every week as a fan. Do you ever just look around the locker room? Some of the people that are, there are people coming in and out sometimes. And just you know what do you how do you feel as a fan just a fan of wrestling with all this going on and being able to work in a situation like that. Oh wrestling fan and the worker. It's phenomenal because you see, you know, I mentioned before you know, will calm myself orange Cassidy, John beers. You know there's that's tomorrow, just, you know, co Cabanas to be there in a few weeks. There's you got the discovery which, you know, I've been a part of and discovering new talent. And, you know, there's, there's women's natch is every week, there's great, you know, local northeast talent, and there's talent from all over. So you get a little bit of everything. The guy like Eric Stevens who you know on the site now. Go to the radio shows left my wallet. I have a talk with Eric Edens about is return to pro wrestling, he absolutely killed it after being offer nine years, two weeks ago with Chris Dickinson, another guy who is is putting in work every week and enthusiasm and the, the camaraderie of wanting to go out and have that's Nash possible is. It's not BS people say that all the time about, you know, this locker room, we wanna go out and have the, the best match possible. Well, it's no different than in the end. And the Wednesday weekly shows any shows they own, so you need concept and guys know there's a lot of is on them. And, you know, I know there's sponsored I've gotten personally, I can only speak for what I experienced. You know, I've gotten to work with so many different and unique opponent and the feedback and the reception on social media has been bad. I'd never expected it. It's been more than I could have imagined. The building is awesome. It's a it's an old brick building. I guess a negative is you can be thrown into a brick wall repeatedly. I mean that isn't there. But I mean it is true like on a couple of days of the ring like the fans are right up there against the apron. I mean you can't get any closer like if you're if you're a fan, I mean, you're, you're literally, you're right there with your hands into the ring, I presume just don't get too close. If you show it up, you could attempt to step on some of those hands will, you know, but that's that's or maybe get thrown into a wall. But I wanna void dog. Best catering in the business, though. So at least if you're gonna throw a brick wall, you're gonna eat, well, I don't know about that because the w show at catering by Cracker Barrel. So it's gonna be a. It's a tough storm land storm and Christian field to climb. They're yes. They're so tell everybody about your podcast because you mentioned it very briefly. But if you're a subscriber wrestling, observer dot com. You can listen to a very unique podcast by Thomas and tell. Yeah. You know, an under another persona. I have the podcast left my wallet here on the site on. Wrestling observer, say us, whereas sports and usually sports. And sometimes other random topics and action figures movies with people in the pro wrestling world. You know talks for with any Mercedes few weeks ago at the prod on last week to cock of Montreal Expos and Montreal. Canadian's NHL hockey you know it gives. Listeners. Well, actually stand by we're gonna head do Greg. We'll plug. Get back back in a moment. Observer live. Got it. Wallid L. L good. Not too long ago. It felt good to withdraw your cash from the Bank didn't it for vacation or a new car. But today withdrawing your own cash has become risky. 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Also on our Tuesday rundown civil rights groups, praise of ODI rights Beshir, making progress it up. And we could clued our series of reports on college student hunger now our top story. The house is approved a nineteen billion dollar disaster aid package. National Public Radio reports despite early objections from Republicans NPR report C, legislation approved on a vote of crafty four, fifty eight and all those opposing were Republicans. They add the Senate already passed that Bill, overwhelmingly Trump has said he backed the measure, even though it did not include border money with Trump signature that legislation would help speed relief funds. Two communities hit by tornadoes wildfires. Full Kato's drought flooding at other disasters. Meantime, US is coming off the wettest. Twelve months on record, Iowa, farmers are being encouraged to boost conservation practices to help them dept. Here's Ross Brown. Too much rain has kept many farmers out of their fields this spring at a time. When US farm income already is projected to drop forty five percent below twenty thirteen high agronomy professor Jean tackle with Iowa. State university says I was weather is significantly affected by the Gulf of Mexico Jetstream which will bring excess moisture to the state for the foreseeable future, which is very clear. This Jack is getting stronger. And so it's natural consequence of our climate in the midwest should be linked to increasing rainfall the National Oceanic and atmosphere administration says the period between may of last year and April twenty nineteen was the wettest twelve months since recordkeeping began in eighteen ninety five for those keeping track today. Corn planting you, sixty eight percent complete. That's. In contrast to ninety seven percent this time last year in Iowa and only forty percent of soybeans are planted compared to eighty seven percent, this time of year ago after failing to get rid of its pollution, control standards entirely a multi state, 'cable vote this week on a plan, but let states like Virginia decide how they want to enforce clean water protections. The plan being pitched as a compromise by the Ohio river valley water sanitary commission is opposed by several environmental groups who claim it reverses efforts by states connected to the river and its watershed to prevent sewage contamination, runoff pollution and toxic contamination. Gil Hess, with the national wildlife federation, says maintaining ouija pollution reduction goals is common sense. We need regional standards for river, that needs to be managed a connected system. They are arbitrary, but the river is one very large river. It's nine hundred eighty one. While long. 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Okay, even had chance to look, you got a story about a cat. It looks like and some sort of or is this from yesterday. The pasture we never got to that one. Okay. Well, we can do it today, then. So I got a story here from the Canadian copyright review. Apparently, there's a new site blocking. Regime that is the entertainment industry is encouraging. So get into that story. Yeah. It's, it's always, it's always. It's always interesting. The absolutely insane. Things at the entertainment industry wants to push forward in terms of copyright in Europe is they actually got upload filters passed in Europe. So the different countries are now implementing implementing the laws in regards to that he's passed the European about the record companies in the movie companies using the force of government to, to protect their income. Streams is very true. So yeah, we've this comes from the torrent freak it's a source, I love for news. I'm not necessarily sure that they're very Libertarian-leaning this -sarily, but they certainly right? Pretty decent articles that are shockingly unbiased in my opinion. Komo at least compared to what I would right? If I were them from from a copy of perspective. So the standard committee on industry, science and technology is published us along we'd review candidates copyright act. The review which serves as guidance for the government rejects a nonjudicial site blocking. Regime and keeps the current safe harbors intact. Lake two thousand seventeen candidates requested a standing committee on industry, science and technology to carry out a thorough review of the copyright act after dozens of hearings where heard hundreds of witnesses and reviewed input from various stakeholders, the final review is now ready and published in public in detailed report spending a hundred eighty pages. The committee issues thirty six recommendations. Yeah, you hear the right thirty six recommendations. This is only gonna cover like a fraction of those covering wide range of copyright issues. Interestingly the first suggestion from the committee is to remove the mandatory five-year eve you which just completed, they have. I guess I think there's like, I think this is normal. But I think they like review laws like every so many years, there's something like that in New Hampshire with crypto-currency where there's like a mandate every, every few years, you have to check and make sure things are still going the way. Yeah. Yeah. Recommend any fixes to problems that might have come and similarly with the crypto currency committee in New Hampshire. It's kind of like, why are we doing this? We came to a conclusion and. Yeah. Who knows? So through various hearings briefs many rights stress that longer stronger copyright, protections are required to draw with to deal with online piracy this regular pirate sites, but covers also copyright infringing material uploaded to in faith, you know, it's up so insane this, this goes well beyond just piracy that they were making suggestions for. They're talking about value so-called, value gap night. I know people can't see me, but I'm putting that in quotes also talking about extending copyright in Canada. It's there's so many different things that were like pushed forward the agenda of the copyright cartels. It's hardly, this surprisingly, I expected them to just rubber stamp everything. And it sounded like that's what we're going to do. They didn't quite do that. But the thing to also remember here, though is not only did they not even though they need rubber stamp, everything. The copier industry wanted, they did, basically. Balanced balancing act, but the problem with the belting act is that it means that they're taking away, more rights, so more of your freedoms, and this is sort of how they do it. They give. Just a few little things tiny things here on both sides. But ultimately, it's still alternately. We never got back the freedoms that we lost. So, so always a losing these freedoms when they do these kinds of balancing one step forward, two steps back. So which two steps are we going back in Canada? Yeah, it's, it's several Staples are stakeholders, including the Motion Picture Association, Canada argued that content filters would be appropriate. This is comparable to the requirement put forward. So they want to censor the internet. They do. And the thing is already has a sense of all the major ISP's have censorship. Filters are ready for supposedly trial porn, but that was from the nineties, but there's been talks about copyright and adding gambling sites. I think the list, and so this is the problem with any kind of filters implementing anything like that. It's it doesn't stop there. They will not let it go. They will continue to, to those filters until political sites and content that you want access on it. It's the great firewall of Canada is it is certainly certainly what it's becoming you think this is limited to horrible places like China. No, it it's coming to your. It's probably it's already there in many countries. The UK already has a censorship filter and people don't even know that we're not talking just trial. We're talking about copyright content that's supposed pirate sites. And they even have a proxy site. So not even just, you know. Piracy sites. But proxies just generic proxies are on the list. I don't know why there aren't more VPN actually providers on that list. But I guess, I guess we care it on a search engine to exit. I don't know. I, I know why k blocks proxies because they're censorship filter is actually a proxy server. They transparently proxy all your traffic. Yeah. That's, that's actually that is one way is one of the ways I don't know specifically if that's how it might be. I do know because I've investigated this before. Okay. I know. I know that I mean so one of the ways they do. It is through DNS right? But that's not necessarily the only way they do it, one of the other ways they can do is they can proxy the content and by proxy, the content that you can actually modify the content that you're seeing on the page itself yet, so it's really disturbing. It doesn't work with ATS content on they have a, some sort of they've basically break encryption, and that can be. Done case they can just block the whole. Yeah. Right. That's another, that's another way to do it just block all each sites. And then they can certainly you know, I mean it does undermining Christian so anything that you enter into a website is visible Bhai, anybody else. That's potentially accessing say your wifi connection, or at a cafe or something like that. So it does put people in danger, but I wouldn't put put it past the government to do that we actually already know that they're advocating for that with back doors on encryption, and things like that. So it's yeah it's a security. It's a serious security compromise and they're acting like, well, you'll still be secure. Well, no. As soon as you compromise encryption, all bets are off on the government that can get that was settled twenty years ago. Quick trying to bring it back up. Yeah. They do they, they just wrap it up. I'm not so sure about that. I think they're going to keep pounding away at it until we do they do. They do succeed. I mean we've seen it. It's been happening for probably hundreds of years. They little away, you know, more and more at our freedoms. And it sure. Where we in the United States, we don't have the censorship filters, but there are certainly things that the United States that doesn't mean the United States doesn't censor. It's simply means we don't have the censorship filters, but certainly other countries like the UK and Australia and Canada and a bunch of western countries. It's not just China. It's not just Russia. Everybody seems to be censoring these days. This is a compatible to the requirement before an article seventeen the EU copyright directive, which may result in upload filters may now it's going to result in a filters that was part of it. And this article thirteen previously now it's article thirteen I'm surprised they actually say that because they've been saying it for all the other stories, rain here up until recently, at least related proposals. She just narrowing the safe harbor for online service providers. 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You can put the liberty radio network on the air in your area. Visit broadcast not L dot FM to learn how broadcast dot L R N dot FM. You're listening to the call of freedom with Chris. And michael. We had that, right? This is not called the freedom. This is called a freedom. Michael. I wasn't expecting to, to reintroduce this every segment. No. Okay. Well, anyway, give us a call six zero three two eight three six one six zero and you can, and you can join in the conversation so we been talking about content filters, and how Canada is going to be passing legislation. Shortly. And this is basically a committee that is taking in suggestions from seemingly the public, but mostly copied holders these never have real public input because the public would not if public actually had a voice in this, they would say hell, no, yeah. It's, it's there was, there was a few people, Michael Geist. I think his name is who's like a professor. Who did submit something, and there might have been I think something like from the F or something like that. But mostly, it's just a bunch of copyright holders together the record companies in the movie companies trying to get more money out of you related proposals suggested narrowing safe harbor for online service providers. This includes changes section three thirty one point one, and forty one point twenty seven of the copyright act, including Bala Shing these altogether. Interesting. Okay. So they're gonna they're basically go to Bali like safe harbor like fair, fair, fair use, or something like that. No safe harbor is where the ISP doesn't get. Oh, right. Right. Right. Right there. Why? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, basically, this is this is cater doesn't have the DMC but I think there's something equivalent to that, and it's pretty close. So, basically, save harbor is, is when a website like YouTube has a video that was up Lloyd by user that is infringing copyright. If somebody else sends what's called a digital mullion copyright takedown, notice, or DMC, a to YouTube, they have to take it down if they don't then they become liable for any copyright lawsuits. That might be filed but by taking it down there. No longer liable. Now they can technically can be reposted, technically if the user files what's called the counterclaim, but YouTube actually in particular case YouTube, but they still will actually penalize users. For basically getting too many notices and things of that nature. So it actually goes above and beyond with the wall requires at least in the United States, and we are talking about Kennedy here and the law in candidate is a little bit different. They were able to take down TV, add, ons, and seize domain everything even though TV I doesn't even host any copyrighted material doesn't example, but so I don't know. Like I'm a little confused still as far as like what Canada has and doesn't have as far as like safe harbor because it seems based on the TV, I don't case they don't have any kind of safe harbor but again, here they're talking about safe harbor, so that doesn't sound like the thing about safe harbors, if you get rid of safe harbor, and nobody know site is going to be safe accepting any kind of user, generated content, no videos, no post comments, all that stuff has to go because it will not be safe to, to have open comments. Rate, basically, little old freaking dot com. For example, the perfect example and it's just it's a little bog and keen covers new New Hampshire actually, but let me not even be safe for like Facebook to operate. But yeah, if somebody were to post a link to something that was infringing. It's not even it's not even it's not even hosting the copyrighted content, which is linked to somebody else's copyrighted content that could potentially get the site seized basically without safe harbor. So it's a very important or at least make the freaking website liable for the infringing activity of the user, and so that's why safe harbor is early important to protect free speech on the internet. Well, the community acknowledged the value the committee sorry while the committee, acknowledged that value got problem for rightsholders trusses that the rights of internet users should be taken into account as well. Yeah. I mean. Acknowledging I think it's part of the problem is, you know, they're trying to balance things, and their knowledge in the so-called value gap that is. I don't I don't think there is a value gap. I mean it's basically what are they arguing as far as do you remember what they're arguing for the value gap? Exactly. It's something isn't it something like they're not making as much money because they can't get they can't negotiate as good of a deal, because if they basically if like YouTube doesn't agree to license, the content the contents still get supposed to anyway. Therefore, they basically can't get they can't extract as much money out of. Yeah. That's, that's how much money they think they could get, which that number is usually wrong. Right. Right. Right. I mean, basically, basically what it comes down to is they already have a monopoly on distribution of content these copyright owners a no other industry. Would you be able to have a monopoly like that? I mean, we are literally going after other companies like Google Amazon for having not even monopolies. For anti-trust violations. This cartel has done very well. Fritzell. Right. It's like we should be dismantling copyright in the. Maybe not so much that entities. You know, they're relying on, but certainly copyright because it was a mistake. It should never have been introduced in the first place. The argument essentially was that while copyrights going to promote the arts and sciences for a limited time, by the way, which is seven years, what that meant for the benefit of the arts and sciences for the public good. Okay. Well, we don't have either of that happening. Now, we do have something called for under what software licenses and creative Commons license things like that we do have hacks on copyright basically returns control to the user and promotes arts and sciences. But that's not what copyright does it actually does the exact opposite of what they claimed it was supposed to do like any government program? Right. And then they extend it again, and again, and again, so, you know, I they extended it till at twenty years, or something from seven or something like that, then fifty. And now it's like over one hundred years time, and it varies it can even. In the longer than that, because I think it's like one hundred years from the time of the creator's death or something like that, or it's owned by industry, then it's like it's like even longer. It's just absolutely insane. How Wong literally nothing. That's produced today. We'll ever be available or enter the public domain in your lifetime. It's that it's that bad. And yet they have this, this, you know. Argument here that they're losing money because some value gap about the public interest. And now the even want to get rid of educational use here as well. So you know in Canada. Educators, can basically use contents without worrying about copyright infringement and they've been trying to Bali as well. Yeah. That'll backfire. Yeah. Proposed amendments to section thirty one point one in forty one point seven of the act would be too blunt a solution to address the issue especially since there is no consensus among stakeholders about which LSP almost providers cause problems and why subjecting online service providers to increased regulation should also reflect a balanced approach. The report says reads, yeah. I mean, I have a hard time believing they actually think this. It just it just seems it just seems like they're trying to portray a balanced approach. I think they copyright industry ever really expected to get all the stuff to pass it. They wanted another gonna shoot Ford. Anyway, they expect to make improvements. A little by little over the years, be more and more of our freedoms of right? Select do it. Give us a call six zero three two eight three six one six zero and you can give on the line during the conversation about copyright or some other. 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You are listening to the call the freedom with Chris and Michael though we've just been covering a story out of Canada about how the copyright industry is basically. You know, they're, they're propagating for new laws to basically, strike more money out of the public and everybody and Google and extend copyright and a bunch of other things, and INTERPOL censorship filters, and there's basically been a committee hearing that was that was set up by, by the government to take public enquiries and then decide on some recommendations on what to do. The committee finds is questionable for example, that online services would be required to take down or monetize content without allowing uploaded a respond. Yes, they actually suggested this. Wow. To allegations of copyright infringement that appears to refer indirectly to the ease article seventeen. Yeah. Europe article seventeen is absolutely insane. They are making copyright. Linking in Europe Lincoln to copyright news stories is. You know, have to pay to, to leak to them what it's absolutely insane, but the basically the news industry. The newspapers are all insisting that Google pay them. Are they trying to commit suicide? Yeah. It's like why don't you just not linked to their sites anymore and let them learn the hard way. What happens when, when you're not linking to them anymore? You, you want Google pay you that will not happen in a million years. And if Google stops linking website, you will die if anything they should be paying Google to link to them. I mean it's, it's just unbelievable the kind of entitlement mentality that these industries have it's, it's not it's not just individuals who have the entitlement tunnel entitlement mentality. It's it's industry. It's capitalists. It's like it's absolutely insane. And it kind of makes a question or are they really capitalists, if they have that kind of metality, and I know there's probably not what we call capitalism is really more socialist. It's just not looked at that way, because you're, you're not much of a capitalist if you have to take free government. Money. Yeah. Or lobby for laws, which then protect your competition. Right. Redirect, redistribute funds. It's yeah. So it's definitely not free market capitalism, instead of making any concrete suggestions. The committee recommends keeping an eye on how the EU deals with the issue. So basically, they're saying, well, it was e- you figures it out. Yeah, we'll go ahead and pass something somewhere and draw lessons from this approach, ultimately, however, any changes should be in the best interest of all Canadians, which is summarized in two recommendations. Well, I mean, what's in the best interest of all canes is elimination of copyright and patent law at a minimum in probably something some reform for trademark law as well and maybe even entirely eliminating trademark law. I'm not sure the problem. The problem with trademark while I think is that it's more about deception. So it's as objectionable as copyright. Is because it's, it's basically the directive is to ensure that fraud doesn't occur. How ever it is abused routine routine routinely. So you end up with situations where somebody might be using a logo of another party. For example, in copyright for like, live streaming television. For example. They claim the basically claiming actually might be actually copyright grounds. I'm thinking, but either way, it's, it's supposed to it's supposed to prevent confusion. But nobody's confused. When you go to a piracy website. Nobody's gonna be confused. That, that's that the little logo in the lower left hand corner of the stream that shows television station. They're not nobody's confused at that stream is legal or being or an authorized stream, so obvious what it is. Right. Right. So it's would be another matter if somebody produced content, and then put their logo that television stations logo on there like stream that would be trademark infringement, that would be a deceptive or deceitful or fraud. Maybe right. But that's not what you know, that's not what that's not how they're using trademark law. In many cases, the at least not to copy industry certainly other industries are, are probably going to be a little bit more of in line with. Trademark law and use it the way it was intended. But at the same time, trademark does require companies to go after and they can, I think companies could be a little bit overreactive sometimes with trademark law. And I, we've actually been that's sued. But, like when we file my company dot com, we computers and accessories. Especially tillered with lenox, and we focus around privacy and stuff like that. But basically, we when we filed our trademark we actually had, I think it was trying to think of that company's name, it was a publisher penguin penguin. I think, you know, the penguin books yet publisher publisher. They actually came after us for our trademark because. They basically were being over zealous. And that's what they do. We have nothing. We're not even in the publishing arena. We don't I mean, sure we publish stuff, but it's not we don't publish books, and we don't publish the same type of thing that. You know, we're in the publishing industry as basically what it comes down to. We're not taking other people's content and publishing it. So I mean, the most the most that we do in terms of publishing is like publishing a web page where you can buy our product or maybe some documentation on support. I mean seriously. We're not even in the industry, and yet they came after us for some sort of trademark violation. But the thing is, there's all sorts of companies that use the word penguin in their name. There's an ice company that's called penguin, and that's totally fine. Because trademarks are supposed to be specific to penguin Sudan, too. Yep. Maybe I don't know. It wasn't. It wasn't a lawsuit. They sent us a threatening letter then we kinda responded with a letter threatening threatening, but saying okay, well, we'll, we'll re-submit our pet and apple higher. But. Hire patent trademark application. If you are willing to pay the five thousand dollars, whatever it was to cover our costs to resubmit without. There was one category. I think. Like it was like, okay. Will resubmit our application. But without that category or something like that. And I don't even remember what it was. It was, but it was just so ridiculous. And ultimately, they weren't willing to pay up to five thousand dollars, so they object to our application. And basically, I think always said was, you know, we're not we're not we're not in the publishing industry. We're not competing with we've got nothing. We're not even there's nothing were competing with you on. We don't even sell any, we didn't even any books or anything like that. So it's like there is nothing to get confused on. But even if we sold books, that's not the same thing as being in the publishing industry. Right. Right. It's you might be in the book selling industry, but you're not really in the publishing industry. So there's not gonna be any brain confusion here. Anyway. Ultimately, however, any changes should be in the interest of all Canadians. Yes. Not gonna happen recommendation. Twenty one so they pull out a few different recommendations here in the story recommendation, twenty one that the government of Canada monitor the implementation in other jurisdictions of extended collective licensing as well as legislation making safe harbor exceptions available to online service providers conditional to measures taken against copyright infringement on their platform. So basically what they're saying is in order to retain safe harbors now only will have to take don't concept. They'll have to be proactive in reviewing all content before it's published. Yeah, that's that's getting ridiculous. That, that means you can't start like a small website because you, you can't afford the labor to review. Everybody's comment before it's posted. Of course not. And it's also talking about collective licensing. So basically the hell is talking about is, you know how they like candidate they like sell every, every CR basically tax. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 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But for a limited time, you can order your copies and use the coupon code CT f to have all shipping costs waves. So go get it. That's the thin blue line game dot com. So we've been talking about a story out of Canada, where the entertainment industry has basically been lobbying for more. Basically, to take your rights away more of your rights away. They are proposing taxes additional taxes on goods to redirect funds from your pocket into their pockets based on the flimsiest of grounds there, there's some value gap, especially a bunch of other things. Censorship filters all sorts of stuff, which, which part, some of our ready Sistan, Canada, but they're looking to extend them too. So call the piracy websites, which we already know from based on other countries that they will also include all sorts of other stuff in there, like proxy websites, things of that nature, don't even host. I mean, even even the so-called piracy websites don't even host the piracy content like this just the. Just the absurdity of these demands. Recommendation, twenty two that the government Canada's that the content management systems be employed by online service providers subject to safe harbor. Exceptions must reflect the rights, the rights holders and users alike. So I mean it doesn't this committee report in some respects doesn't sound nearly as bad as what they're you know, industry is lobbying for, but it's still really, really terrible because they're, they don't take away all your rights and freedoms overnight gradual day, nibble at it. Little by little by little. And so this is just one more step in the wrong direction moving onto enforcement against traditional pirate sites. The committee, reviewed input from various stakeholder, she's just the introduction of site blocking regime. Yeah, I mean, this is I mean, they literally are advocating four censorship there, it is right there, the fight against piracy should focus more on large scale commercial infringers and less on digital Canadians, who may or may not understand that they are engaged in fringe enjoyment, the committee notes adding that sees value in pirates like site blocking. Yeah. I mean, that yeah, there's, there's a good point there, because they really should stop worrying about like the single people who want to watch the latest game of thrones and worry about the tens of thousands of counterfeit Blu rays coming in on the container ships. This telecommunication act could be revised streamlined. The blocking process, however, creating a separate team that would bypass the courts. Yeah, they're even looking to bypass the courts and be able to censor anything they want. Got to stop this without even do. I mean. It's funny. You're supposed to have like due process. Right. I mean, at least in the United States, but, you know, it's funny because due process is basically whatever they decided is what, what's, what's the point of having your process just that there is a process? It's, it's absurd. I think you know, from, from, I think, rational perspective process means that you have to be able to go to court and seek Justice, you know, an actual system to say do processes, somebody throwing up your website on blacklist. It's not due process, you had no opportunity to object or to defend yourself from, from some sort of charge. That's that's removing in my perspective in my opinion, any kind of real due process. It's just paying. Maybe paying tribute to some. I don't even know how it's paying tribute to do process because I mean to be honest. I mean I service lip service. I don't even know. I don't even know if it's I don't even think it's a, you know, portraying lip the contributing lip service to do process. Just kind of outright ignores. It it's just basically putting in a system to attack. Anybody they wanted to attack with no recourse, right? It is for the courts to educate, whether educate sorry, whether given us constitutes copyright infringement as to issue orders, consonants. Yeah. And that's a part because you have something called fair use rights. Now, you are technically infringing when you take advantage of fair use rights, but there's no penalty so they would have to take you to court and they, they would essentially lose because, because you have fair use rights, but you still have to pay to go to court you do. And so, basically, what they're saying is, well, if you don't take it, too mean I don't even know how would you even like enforce your fair use rights? I mean, would you have to them you'd have? I mean how many? They're just they're censoring anything and everything. They want. That's what it's about. I don't know the courts have already already have expertise necessary to protect the interests of all involved parties committee rights among other things a separate regime without oversight, would increase the risk of reach would which could lead to violations there. You have it. I mean they're supposed to be this thing called net neutrality. But they always make exceptions for like. Like unless it's a legal and then all of a sudden they can censor. But then who? Decid- ISP, decide what's legal or not? You know, just the copy initially, get decide what's legal or not. Yeah. The movie, the movie industry, decides what's legal. We'll see. This is why I don't like I don't even like the concept of net neutrality. I think we shouldn't have it. What I think we should have is a free market are true free market and the government saying the heck out because then, you know, you at least would have likely you'd have a choice of an ISP that respects freedom, I have to have a choice of ISP, and at least at least here in the US, most people don't do you know why we don't have a choice of ISP's in the US local cable franchises. Yeah. So basically back in the eighties nineties when cable television was being rolled out around the country, they actually got individual cable companies would get a monopoly from the local city, the city government. And as a result, basically, what usually say something to the fact, four ten years. Nobody else will be allowed to cable for at least TV purposes. Well, the problem with this is is that there's something called a first mover advantage in business. And basically, what that is, is the first person, the market has an has an advantage. And so the difference though between a first mover advantage and this is that not only do they get the first mover advantage. But they also get an advantage because by the time that monopoly expires assuming as swimming, I'm assuming it expires her. But one that monopoly does expire, okay. They already now have paid off all of their investments, okay or all of their debt, basically. So any company tries to enter that market that creates then has to pay or debt, basically can't afford to pay that back using the money that was that's generated from charging for the services because what happens is the monopoly having paid off all debts will lower their prices to a point where the competition that now house, these new debts cannot generate enough income to actually pay those that's up. So you basically essentially ensure that an indefinite monopoly even though the monopoly was supposed to be limited in practice. It's not limited. It's. It doesn't it. Never ends. So this is basically why we have a monopoly day. Now. It's not to say that maybe there won't be competition, but it makes it nearly impossible for competition to come about. If we look at what happened with Google, Google the same problem. It was just they made it overly. And there's also additional on top of this. There's also regulations. So what an industry basically sub itself, which you don't have cable TV, and internet have at this point, they then start to advocate for additional regulations because it ensures the competition can't sprout up. It's you know, you don't want regulatory barriers when you're entering a business like when you're getting into a business. But once you're stub wished it dish lemberg leashes can actually be beneficial when you're especially when you're huge player in the market. Okay. Because it keeps out smaller competitors, that might might be better than you or whatever. And so we're basically seeing we're seeing why now we only we don't really have much of a choice like either you support it intro -ality, or you basically just entirely screwed. And even within you're still screwed. But it might be a little bit better ideology. I'm still against it in jollity in general. But if it's our only, it's really long on the table. I'm going to vote for even though I I dislike it from a principal libertarian perspective better than the alternative. Yeah. It's better than alternative of censorship, which the Icees are implementing, and they're already doing all sorts of stuff as it is. So including tracking people call. This is freedom six zero three two eight three six. Hi, I'm Derek J. I don't want a politician to represent me. To me, government is the idea that one of people can coerce everyone to comply with an Edith or face increasing punishments up to and including. 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Well, we're gonna be I'm not ready for you because you're kind of misleading me here. So this just came in over the list came into my feet of human, that's to go. Was a mass shooting in Darwin, Australia from the Sydney Morning Herald here, a man who allegedly opened fire in Darwin on Tuesday night, killing four men and injuring one woman can be identified as forty five year old Ben Hoffman Hoffman was on parole and wearing an electric monitoring bracelet when he allegedly opened fire in the Darwin city area about five forty five pm local time on is a country has like anti-gun, right? Completely banned handguns and shotguns, and rifles extremely restricted like you can only keep them at gun. So I mean, it sounds like it's basically another story about how guns don't banning guns doesn't don't actually it's not effective against keeping people who are dangerous from doing things. There are still guns stralia, despite the fact that they tried to get rid of them. Police arrested Hoffman in Stewart park area of Darwin about an hour later at six forty five pm television showed a man on the ground after being dragged from under a white tool, cab Butte, pick kicking his legs at officers from NT's police territory response group. Hofman remains in custody and no charges have been laid yet. Anti police Commissioner said officers were able to track down the suspected shooter after he contacted a police duty superintendent who alerted others to his location quote. He asked to be placed in into protective custody, which he did. We do believe he may have been trying to hand himself in. We're not sure. You really have to ask the question of a, why is somebody gonna shoot up anything and then hand themselves in like it's almost like he wasn't able to control something. This guy went to this guy, went to several different locations around the city, shot some people, and then called the cops on himself. It's bizarre. But the, the funny business here is that he somehow got hold of a shotgun. And stralia. Now police Commissioner said the suspect shooter is a man who is well known to police and had his head a number of adverse interactions with the police force. He said the man was released on parole in about January of this year and is currently being held at hospital. Police are still trying to establish the intent or motivation behind this shooting which was carried out by shotgun. I mean, maybe this guy has been abused by the system. We I mean, we see firsthand how abuse of the system is this morning, we had a friend here go into court, and for, for something that was kind of routine, he was there of his own free, well, and they resident for, you know, basically supposedly missing a court date that was never even supposed to happen, starches dismissed. I mean, if police can do that kind of thing, if the law enforcement, if the government if the system allows for this sort of thing, where somebody is voluntarily entering a courtroom, you know, they shouldn't be then arresting individual for it just all it does ensure that people who are victims of crime and other other sorts of things. Don't participate in the Justice system. They don't go through the legal processes. And so on. They become become an underclass I become criminals, not because they are criminals, but because the system forces, it on them. That's, that's a good point. And I we haven't talked about what happened to rich yet, maybe we should. But, you know, this guy this guy in Australia, he, he's definitely been in and out of the system multiple times there. And I don't know what set him off. But, but the system is designed to the Colonel Justice system. At least here in the US is pretty much designed to keep people down. I mean that's the whole point of it. It's not it's not about punishment. It's not about rehabilitation. It's about keeping people in their place about rotating people through the system for profit, and, yeah, and stuck in and sucking them dry, while they're -sarily mean, doesn't necessarily, I'm not even talking about just the prison complex. I'm simply talking about all the people that are employed, including the police. The courts. Leakers on your back. Right. Right. It's not it's in the people who work in the bureaucracy. It's in their interests to keep people coming through the door. It's not just the even when you are a government. That's why police oppose oppose making drugs legal against all they want to keep their job. They wanna be able to say we don't have enough. We're no. We don't have enough resources. We don't have enough money. You know what? It's funny too much money address. If you shouldn't I got arrested for filming police checkpoint and supposedly, for crossing the street and for like. Looking. Yes. About actually jaywalking charging. But anyway, and I wasn't break any of these Lowe's, anyway, that he was size supposedly was accused of or whatever, and they dropped the charges. But the point is that the guy I looked up later. You know what? How much money is this is this is public information? And the guy was making six figures he was making something like one hundred twenty seven dollars, something like that. Yeah. And what was he doing? He was manning, a DUI checkpoint. Okay. And these guys are not they're not even a baying. The law. For which they have a limited like I wanna say jurisdiction. I'm not sure it's quite right word, but there's a limited amount of stuff that they're allowed to do at these checkpoints like they can only look for DUI. They're not supposed to be doing other sorts of activities like checking how, how far you're bumpers from, from the car to the ground things like that. They're not supposed to be doing that. They're not supposed to be very strict protocols, and they're not even following those protocols like that's the justification for these illegal searches basically. Well, the justification is just the DUI like they're not allowed because it is a billionaire search either wise, they're allowed to do other stuff. And the worst part is DUI laws in particular, actually. They're actually counterproductive because I'm talking about the checkpoints here. It's actually more effective. They catch more drunk drivers by doing patrols than they do by these DUI, check once, but it's kind of productive because when they stop somebody at the checkpoint, it's who has been drunk drunk driving. They have a harder time making conviction in court because they don't have all the additional stuff that occurs that they're required to have it or to get a conviction prior to the stop, like they have to have a reason to stop you. And then older have that. So even if they can pull somebody off the street that for the night, or whatever it doesn't actually get a conviction there after so there's more munition in the defendants toolkit if I do get stopped at a checkpoint, if the cups are wasting resources in time, setting up, these these, they never they. Refined is anyway, don't. And that's the crazy thing. They people for all sorts of other harmless ever tickets stuff, but they're not even arresting people for what they're supposedly sending checkpoints up four it's just it's absolutely disturbing. Yeah. I don't know. The checkpoints whole other thing too. You know. No, I have not ever personally been through one. So I don't know. I tend to avoid that I've been through I think through twice. And once I actually, the person, I was with was driving, and they actually refused to ID and shockingly, they did not respond to that. Now you don't have to shouldn't have to. There's a whole justification for ID. Driving is, you know. 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I thought it was just the specific groups from certain countries, and apparently it's being extended now to like a lot almost everybody. Yeah. Pretty much I guess they're still might be some exceptions. But it's, it's, it's really starting what they're demanding nearly all ins for US visas, we'll have to their social media details under newly adopted rules. The State Department regulations say, people will have to social media names and five years of Email addresses in front of first of all, I don't even know if I can remember all my Email, addresses and phone number. Year's worth. I know I have to wonder like what are they going to do? If you just don't right. Like, I don't know. I, I mean, it's, it's do you remember your Facebook Email, or Email, Facebook username and password? Michael, are you even on Facebook? Yeah, I'm on do you even remember what they are because I know a lot of people just save. There isn't a password. I know exactly what they are. Okay. Well, you're a horrible person to ask, because you're, you're not part of the, the masses, but I'm sure that most people do not save that information other than on their computers. So if they're asked I wouldn't even be able to answer. Possibly. Yeah. When when proposed last year thirties estimated that proposal would affect fourteen point seven million people annually. I guess what? What a number that we have people visiting the United States. Now, there's or at least applying for visas. Yeah. Right. Right. Certain in. Yeah, it's a good question is that necessarily they might not necessarily be granted. I wonder what the percentage of visas are granted and which ones what percentage of denied of that point a million, I think it roughly about eighty percent are granted. Yeah, I don't have the numbers in front of the numbers, if that's right. Then they're denying quite a lot of where they are. But yeah. Certain diplomatic in official visa applicants will be exempt from the stringent new measures, however, people. Yeah. So they're basically, they're exempting diplomat. Basically government people in government or something. Well, yeah, of course. However, people travelling to the US to work or to study, you, we'll have to hand over there for mation. Yeah. I mean, our politicians wouldn't want other countries to start demanding of them, right? No. Anybody else's? Okay. We're constantly working to find mechanisms to improve our screening process to protect your citizens. Listen, if it's a voluntary thing, and people aren't telling you, it's not going to improve your screening process. I know this reminds me of the whole question that they used to answer before you got on a plane. It's like are you carrying any bums? If I was do you think I'm going to say, yes, because early people do are you serious? There are people who are getting on planes with bombs, who would answer. Yes to a question like that. The ones that are carrying up. I'm sorry, but I'm so skeptical at there are people who are actually care about that answer. Yes. And see if they're that dumb. How were they going to get the bomb from? How are they gonna make smart person gives it to them? Wait. So you're saying they're dumb, dumb smart people, basically. No, they're dumb people. They're carrying a bomb, because they're in Toby some smart person, gave it to. Okay. So carrie? Okay. Yeah. Maybe. But I mean even if somebody was really that what you tell them bomb. I might not. Yeah. I don't think they would I suspect a person who's carrying a bomb that doesn't know it is probably not told that it's a bomb. I just didn't ask that question anymore. But it just goes it just goes to show that they have come to the same conclusion that I always knew is it's totally ineffective way doing security, and this is the same type of situation. It's not going to improve the owning what that means improve the screening process. I mean, what what they should be saying is it's going to improve security, but they're not even saying you're saying improve the screening process. Yeah. They collect more information on people. It sounds more. Like they're looking to gain information to add to a database so that they can target individuals when they do things. They don't like. It's persecution. It's not it's not security previously only applicants needed additional vetting, such as people who had been parts of the world control by terrorist groups. Okay. So here kinda, maybe makes a little bit more sense. But everybody know would I mean everybody is like a situation where you're looking to do target certain groups of people for political persecution reasons. Not not yet not everybody. I mean even the embassy staff, what are they gonna do with this? Are they going to go, and look at everyone's Facebook? I mean, you know what's funny is it's actually probably more sense to collect from embassy staff because frequently those people are spies. It's usually like I don't know why this is, but they're frequently we find that there's like, they're spying for foreign governments that people that work at these embassies in tip Labatt's. I never I never quite understood that. But like you think if you know somebody is a diplomat, and there's a risk. That they're spy, you, like would be monitoring them to some degree to the extent that you're allowed and other stuff. Right. But. Oh, I guess it's just not how that works. But now applicants will have to give up their account names on a list of social media platforms, and also volunteer the details of their accounts on sites. Not listed. I mean I does that include every single website that you purchase something from because I'm thinking about how many thousands of websites that. Yeah, how far does how far they gonna take my supposed to provide my ludden credentials to the silk road? They would love that. I really like Sirs leave. You're not gonna get questions anybody who lies about their social media. Use could face serious immigration consequences. According to official who spoke to the hill. I mean. Yeah, but how are they even gonna know if they're relying on you to tell them, how are they even gonna know what your social media accounts are in look, just because social media county exists does not necessarily mean it's yours, right? There are all sorts of fake profiles out there for various purposes. Sometimes it's for. Comedy reasons. I there's actually name already parody, the word. I'm looking for exactly. But it's something. Yes. Something to that effect. It's like everybody knows that, that's not the real Steve Jobs, a parody account. Okay. Yeah, it's still not quite the right word that I'm thinking of it is. I mean I guess it would be parody too. But what were you thinking of you probably don't anyway? So I can only imagine how denied entrance to the United States because they didn't give up some account that wasn't even there is that they, they even make they didn't have it's going to happen, and you have to remember. There's also other issues like people with the same name, for example. I mean, are you going to deny entry because they'd provides somebody else's. Christopher my name Christopher Wade. There's other Christopher weeds out there, if I don't give them the account information for this other Christopher weights, am I gonna get to? I mean obviously I won't in the United States. But if I wasn't in the if I wasn't a US already, would they the entry? Yeah. Sure, why not. This is just more terrible government regulation. Absolutely no purpose. No real benefit. You're listening. Give us a call six zero three two eight three six one six zero Saint Paul. Brita. This is Mike lean from the freedom. 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Basically anybody entering the United States, just about is going to have to provide a list of social media platforms, and also volunteer details of their account if they want entrance and they'll, they'll basically be punished if they if they don't provide this supposedly don't give your social media, they're going to deny you visa, and you can't visit the statue of liberty. I don't understand. I don't understand why you would want to hinder tore ISM. But that's what because you're up your President Donald Trump. Yeah. Toryism though is an economic activity that significantly benefits the country, which is receiving and the United States for whatever. Whatever reason. Okay. Seems there's an economic benefit right? The thing is Donald Trump is an office in your assuming he's saying, which which is very debatable. This is true. I mean it's, it's he's putting on everything. Yes, this is true too. I mean, it's one huge government. Nothing government is logical irrational. It's, it's like it's like a psychopath. They're not doing what makes the most sense for them. So I mean, I guess they're doing what makes the most sense for the individual proposing laws or passing them. I don't know what this makes sense except for. Just reelection from reelection because it's, it's, you know. You know, I mean he's stopping immigration. He's doing immigration. He's doing it for safety. And I mean that's what he's saying. Right. I mean what he's let me let me let me, let me read a little bit here. So let's use Donald Trump made cracking down on immigration a key point of his election campaign in two thousand sixteen. He called for extreme vetting of immigrants before during his time in office. It's almost like he's not in office anymore on Friday, Mr. Trump vowed to impose gradually rising. Yeah. So now they're even he's even getting talking about the tariffs here to gradually rising tariff on Mexico, unless the country, curb illegal immigration at the US southern border. So, yeah. I mean, the whole tariff thing is, is not even with Mexico it starting five percent. And he's threatened to go up to twenty five percent and carried through with that on China with he, he started at ten percent with China, and now it's twenty five percent. I mean, basically. All our goods are going up by twenty five percent now because pretty much everything is made in China, these days, it's not coming back to the United States is actually hindering economic activity in the United States. It's, it's a why the stock market has been doing so terrible. I you know, I don't know what on earth. He's thinking I do. I do understand the flawed argument that, you know, jobs are going overseas. The problem is that we are no in new reality, and it's not cost effective to bring those jobs back. It's there, nobody's gonna bring those jobs back at most. What you're gonna see is jobs. Move, maybe from China to some other country with cheaper labour, which was already beginning to happen anyway, with our of these terrorists went to went to Bangladesh when those countries start developing more, those jobs will move to Africa. Maybe in some, some sense. This is. Sort of hurting China little bit. But I think it's mostly just hurting Americans. Obviously, we we're not gaining any benefits from it. Certainly not the businesses the businesses are against it. And what is Trump solution to objections by at least businesses with clout pay them off? Exactly. It's the pay the use tax dollars to increase the cost of living, even more and pay off the people who are producing too much food food is one of the categories farmers is one of the Gorey's that Trump is paying off, but he's not paying me off. I'm a little business owner, and he's not he's not paying me off from my losses, but he sure has no problem paying the farmers off their bigger category of. Support for his campaign for his reelection campaign. And this is not something that's new. It's certainly something that's been going on a really long time and certainly Republicans have been supported by farmers. A really long time just in general because they support these subsidies. I mean, this is the subsidies, really aren't new. They're just increasing the subsidies which just encourages farmers to produce more food than actually needed one really what they should be doing is they should be producing enough food to the extent that the US market any overseas market in a free market anyway. Scenario can sustain producing more food than is sustainable isn't not a good business move. A stupid business move. And yet, that's what the United States government is encouraging. That's government in general. It really is take a lesson from this. Yeah. Previously only applicants who actually said that. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. I mean, idea that people are going to have to even supply accounts details for counts that they're not even listed on any cites or I'm sorry, not listed on the form itself is kind of just kind of amazing it leaves an open ended question of what to what extent do you have to provide it? You have to provide it now I mean, they're talking about, like social media platforms, but, you know, I mean what is the social media? What conferences mass kind of social media platform does does telegram, counters or social media platform, maybe the slash dot count, as a social media platform. I mean, we're talking about specifically modern social media platforms. Like Twitter, maybe end and Facebook. And then the question is well what about blogs do? I if I'm on WordPress dot com. Is that a social media platform, what if it's on what if it's not on essentially go on and on, and on, if it's what if what if it Selfo said, what if I host, my own blog twice still left to provide it or don't I? You know the question. Well, if you don't is what happens if it's federated, right? Like, okay. So federated means basically, you have your own server. Maybe it communicates with other servers. But you host your material, but it's still sort of like a modern social networking site. It's begs begs the question to what degree do people have to submit logging credentials of for, for, for these websites for these different these different websites. Do I have to submit? My log information for like every single merchant that I've done business with Amazon, Amazon has comments, but a little social media sort of platform, depending on how you define social media to provide my Amazon credentials. How? Yeah. How far can you take this? I mean, what about pers personal you to communicate with, with the birches is social media platform. There are so many different. Activities counts that you're going to have. On on the internet. I mean everybody has them, and I don't know as technical user, what they mean by social media account. How is somebody who is not a technical user supposed to understand this, and then it kind of also the question of well, I guess, I already said, you have to provide Email address. Here's another question after you provide them. Are you allowed to change your password or required to that's a good question? I mean I when I'm filling out the form do I provide the password, and then I stopped providing. And I just rephrase if I provide the password in that count. And then after I submit applications I go to mail it off. Then go and change my password, or does that, then cost to like some sort of eilly Chicago going to reject you. I don't know. I think they asked for passwords. I don't know. 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How to Memorize the Presidents in Order 1-10 | US History

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How to Memorize the Presidents in Order 1-10 | US History

"From George Washington to Donald Trump and everyone else in between, and also in the future. I'm going to teach you to memorize the US presidents in order in a very fun and creative matter. All. Right before we continue on with the smarter brain, better meme show I wanNA talk to you. Guys row quick about our sponsor anchor. Listen I'm a podcast junkie myself and I know that we all have amazing wisdom to share with the world, so why not get a free account on anchor? They have amazing tools to help you. Get Your podcast started right away. Anchor easily distributor podcast on spotify apple podcasts, and so many more on top of that you can make money really quickly with no minimum listenership, so go ahead and download the free anchor APP or go to anchor dot fan. Get started all right. Let's go on with the show. Memory master champion Louis Joe Right here with eighty mine. I'm going to be teaching you how to memorize the president in order from one through forty five after this episode. We're going to be focusing on the I. Ten presidents remember that you can get the free better memory. Now Guide at eighty mine dot com also like comment and share this. So in order to memorize the president's in the correct order. We have to tap into our creative mind. We have to become creative storytellers. And the way that this works is that we have to create images and stories and place him along route in our mind called a memory palace and I'm gonNA teach you how to create one of those and how to use that. Information, for anything else, you want to memorize innocent quench order Jalek. How I talk about in my better now book. There are three steps to been able to memorize. quickly, the first step is a unique location. You need to have a place in your mind or a memory palace in order to store the information in a sequential order, and we are going to do this with our house locations. I'm going to show you how to create that in a moment, but just start thinking about putting yourself right there in the front door of your home, and then opening up the door, and then seen at first room that you walk into take note of that. We're GONNA use that in a moment. Step tools to visualize this means that we're gonNA take the information where we want to memorize and turn it into an image to story along nasty quench. You'll route and then step three for long term memory retention. We need to review that information. Once again, the first step is we need locations. If you've already created your own memory, palaces and your locations feel free to skip ahead to the actual memorization portion, but you have no idea what I'm talking about when I talk about creating a memory palace. Then this portion is for you. What I want you to do is get a sheet of paper and draw four equal squares. This is going to represent four rooms in your home. Actually I would also recommend to draw one extra square off to the side, so you're gonNA have five in. And want to label each one of these. Let's say the first one. Is your living room second one is the bathroom third as a bedroom so on and so forth kitchen backyard. Maybe whatever it is that you chose label that on there, and then in each one of these rooms I want you to label five different spots, five pieces of furniture five items that really stand. Stand out to you. I'll give you an example when I walk into my mom's home. That's always been my first memory balance so when I walk into my mom's home. That I is living room, so I see a window for the first location table for the second one. The Third One is a SOFA. The fourth location is a mirror and the fifth one is a TV. Now what I want you to repeat this process for each one of the rooms. If the next room is bathroom, maybe choose a toilet. Seek of shower, a towel rack a door. Whatever it is, those are actually my five. And then we're ready to move on to step two which is visualize, and this is where the fun begins. This is where we're GONNA. Be Able to memorize the first ten president, and also all the other ones in a sequential order. Now to take your learning experience to the next level, I partnered up with the great courses, plus to give you a two week. Free trial make sure to go to eighty nine dot com slash great G.. R. E. A. T. to get your two free weeks. Learn all about us, history and so many other subjects. The first president as we all know is George Washington so. This one's going to be pretty simple, and it's a great way to actually start practicing this system with and just to let you know some presidential facts. I'm going to be laying them all down right here for you. George Washington was president from seventeen, eighty, nine to seventeen, ninety seven, and his VP vice president was John Adams. Who is also? Also, the second president and I'll show you how to memorize that in a moment, but first. Let's focus on George Washington. So what we want to do here is turn his name into an image. We're going to take just the last names and create a story around that so for Washington. We're going to picture a washing machine for Washington. You have to ask yourself. What does the name remind me up? For me, I, picture a washing machine. If you can think of something else when you hear the name Washington, Gordon ahead and picture that and use that for your image association. Maybe you picture a dollar bill one dollar bill for Washington. That's perfect as long as you remember that that's Your Association for Washington. You can use that as well so now we want to do is go to your first room in your house. Memory Palace in my case. I'm going to enter the living room and choose that I location for me. It's a window then we want to do. Is Link that image of washing machine on that first location so? So for my example of a washing machine and a window I wouldn't just place it in front of the window. I wouldn't just put it there. In a static manner me, nothing's happening. I just see the washing machine and the window wouldn't do that I. Want to a lot of action to it at all the senses that you possibly can. What do you hear what you see? What do you smell? What do you taste? What does it feel like? Like, they're in that spot. I add as much action to it. Imagine like you're the director to a huge cinematic motion picture with an unlimited budget and have the most vivid story that you can possibly think of so maybe like I turned into the Hawk in the night, thorough, the washing machine through the window, and breaks a window shatters into pieces, and then a bunch of suds from inside of the washing machine. Come back and try to go off. Off The whole window area and myself as well the more vivid you make it and maybe I start eating that all the sudden. They're coming out of the washing machine. I don't know the more vivid you make. The more weird, the easier it is for you to remember it later on so practices, and it does get easier, the more they do it. It's only challenging in the beginning, so go ahead and see that washing machine on your first location. Because, then what's going to happen is you're going to see that location when you're going back and reviewing and then you're gonna see that washing machine. You'RE GONNA ask yourself okay. What was this? What does this end for? Obviously in this case Washington for washing machine I president is on the first location George Washington. Can you memorize a first name using this method? Of course you can maybe for? For Georgia picture curious George inside of the washing machine. I don't know the ad whatever it is that you want to to that first name that is going to help you remember you more than likely. We'll need it for most of these. Because as soon as you hear the last name, you will more than likely you've. You've already have heard that. I name like Thomas Jefferson. You pretty much. Much if you just picture the Jefferson part, which will get into in a moment, you'll pretty much know that Thomas comes in front of Jefferson. John Adams Adams just picture Adam's apple for Adams. You'll know that John comes in front of atoms so for the most part. You wouldn't need to do that extra work, but if you wanted to just for practices while you can, that's on your own. Own We're only going to do the last names in this exercise now you have an idea of how this works. We're going to go through these little bit faster now, so the second President John Adams. He was president from seventeen, ninety seven through eighteen o one and his vice president was Thomas Jefferson for Adams at picture. Adam's apple, so I just picture an apple for that for Adams. You can also maybe picture like an. Atom at or an atomic bomb for atoms. Whatever you think of for atoms you might even ask yourself. Who Does this remind me of so maybe you have somebody that's named Adam. You can picture that person for atoms. In this case. We're just GONNA. Stick to apple because that's what I normally used for atoms, a picture, an apple Adam's apple. Now we go to the second location for me. It's a table and I would picture that apple on the table again. Don't just see statically sitting there. Doing nothing you WanNa, make it very vivid, so maybe see yourself cutting it into tiny little slices on there, and just spreading out through the entire table in your whole family comes, and all they eat, and maybe it's thanksgiving. All they eat. Is Apple slices for Thanksgiving so apple on the table doing something admiral story created out of these two elements, apple and the table. In my case, the day was my second locations, or whatever your second location is picture that very vividly on there. And then all you have to do is translate that apple into the name. which is John Adams for the second president? Now here's a bonus advanced tip. I wouldn't recommend for you to do this. If you are not familiar with the memory, palace system just yet and you're just getting started. Definitely. Stick with one image per one location, but if you're pretty familiar with it, I would recommend for you to do this link to images on one location, so you would do the washing machine and the apples on one. Okay, so maybe you're stuffing A. A bunch of apples in the washing machine making applesauce as you squirted onto that first location, the window all over that window, so those two images are going to be linked together, and that's GonNa. Just save you. It's GonNa. Cut Your overall location need in half, but again if you're not used to this. If this is the first time you're hearing about this, don't do that just into one image one location. It's okay to practice also with more of these locations, so it's perfectly fine. You just need to create a few more extra locations. The Third President Thomas Jefferson. He was president from eighteen o one through eight, hundred nine. He had two vice-presidents on his first term. He had Aaron Burr as vice president and second one. Was George Clinton Right for Jefferson? I would picture a chef son so a little baby chef with one of those chefs hats and he's cooking up or he's baking something so chef son for Jefferson. Now you WANNA bring up your third location for me. It's a sofa so I would picture the chef sun baking a huge cake on my sofa, so he's Bacon in then spreading the frosting all over the SOFA and he has everybody. Come in, just grab cake from there or he possibly just throwing cake on the Sofa. He's a little chef, son, mischievous chef, son, and he starts putting cake all over that Sofa and licking again. Add as many sensors as you can to this. And we take that image translated back into what it represents in this case. Thomas Jefferson for chef son. Fourth President was James Madison. He was president from eighteen nine to eighteen seventeen. You can memorize this using the number system that I've helped you with a ready. All you have to do and I won't get into it right here. Just turn these numbers into an image using the major system. So that is possible. We won't get into that just yet. Maybe in the future we will, but for analysis. Let's take with this. Didn't Madison President from eight, zero, nine through eighteen seventeen, his vice president were George Clinton and Albridge Jerry would I would picture for Madison. Is Medicine Medicine Four Madison I so remember back in the day. Mom used to give us some really nasty medicine edges made you squirm as soon as a hit your tongue off so nasty, but then there was at grape one to that tasted pretty good. They tricked us with the Great One I. Oh, yeah, there's medicines good, and then they slid in that nasty tasty one. Anyway picture medicine for Madison and we're GONNA play said on the fourth location. What does that for you for me? It's a mirror so I'm possibly pouring medicine all over that mirror, and then I'm looking in, and it's really disgusting, because now we know that whenever we see that location and we see the medicine on there. We're GONNA think of mad descent medicine medicine. The fifth president is James Monroe. He was president from eighteen seventeen through eighteen. Eighteen twenty five, and he had one vice president. Daniel Tompkins for Monroe I would picture a moon rowing, a boat moon rowing, monroe moon rowing now to memorize that I would bring a my fifth rotation, which is a TV and then I would store a moon rowing on the TV. Maybe it's like a TV show that I'm watching in this moon. It's a cartoon, so the moon is rowing a boat, and then it crashes through this. And then it pops out of the screen kind of like a three D. effect moon rowing, the boat I'm looking at it from the left side from the right side I finally see the back side of the moon and it just it keeps rolling this boat and it comes around me and then a post back into the TV like virtual reality in a way. Way So moon rowing, and then maybe it's splashes water out to me before it goes back, and I don't know and more action to in the more action, you make the more vivid, the easier it is to retrieve it later on so moon rowing on your fifth location because we know that the Moon Rowing Represents Monroe for James Monroe as the fifth president. Are I now make sure to do a quick review was the first president. George Washington what about the third jump over to your third location for me. It's the SOFA so picture the chef son putting that cake all over the SOFA. Translate that back into the name which is Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson is a third president. What about the fifth Moon Rowing Monroe? You got it awesome. Now we're doing you need a break. Go and take a break and then come back, but if you're raised just trek on and go to the next five presidents, let's right now. Go ahead and jump over to your second room for me. That's the restroom so whatever that is for you. Jump over to that room. Maybe it's a bedroom. Maybe it's a kitchen for me. It's the bathroom restroom and then see your five locations there that we're gonNA use so number six for me as a toilet seven as a sink aid is a shower, nine towel rack, and ten is a door John Quincy Adams is the president. He was president from eighteen, twenty, five to eighteen, twenty nine. His Vice President is John C. Calhoun. And yes, John Adams is the son of John. Adams the second president. We're still going to use Adam's apple for this. If you wanted to add an extra little anchor to help, you remember that John Quincy Adams was the six president. You might picture yourself possibly like barbecuing the apple on six location to give the trigger of the queue barbecue for Quincy but I really don't think that's needed. You'll just have a mental note in your mind at the six. Rather than is John Quincy. Adams instead of just John Adams. So then you bring up your six location for me. It's a toilet and I see myself stuffing those apples down that doyle and clogged up the toilet. My Mom's not going to be happy about that that I just did that but I'm just shoving apples down the toilet clogging up that toilet sprite out a good idea. Now we know that whenever we see the toilet being clogged with those apples, we think of John. Quincy Adams the seventh president. Is Andrew Jackson? He was president from eighteen, twenty, nine through eighteen, thirty, seven, his vice presidents. Presidents were for the first term John C. Calhoun for the second term. Martin Van Buren. WHO's also the eighth president? But we'll get to that in a moment for Jackson I pictured Jack I can carjack that you lift car up to James. Tire Picturing Jack for Jackson then I'll play sat on my seven locations or see the Jack on the sink in my bathroom, so I'm lifting up the Sink Faucet with the Jack I'm lifting it up higher and higher and higher maybe hits the roof and breaks through the roof and then water. Draining all the way down from the top of where I lifted that Faucet from from the on that Jack, so the Jack on the seventh rotation, doing something maybe make sure that that Jack is doing something very vivid on your seventh location. Because now we know that whenever we see the Jack on that location that's going to represent Jackson four seven president, being Andrew Jackson. We have a few more here for the eighth president. We know that that's Martin Van Buren. He was president from eighteen, thirty, seven through eighteen, forty, one and his vice president was Richard Mentor Johnson for Van Buren I would picture a van. Burning van burning. And I would see that on my eighth location so for me. It's a shower, so wh. What does that eighth location for you? Now. It's pretty convenient for me to see of Van Burning on my eighth location, because that's the shower so I would see myself pretty easily. Put out the fire of the van burning inside of my shower now whatever it is for, you linked van burning on your eighth location. Now, we know. Because again, Van Burning Represents van, Buren, which is the eighth President Martin Van Buren the Ninth President is William Henry Harrison. And unfortunately he did pass away from typhoid and ammonia just thirty one days into his presidency, so he served from eighteen, forty, one through eighteen, forty one, so the same year, and his vice president was John Tyler who ended up succeeding him as the next president. So for William Henry Harrison. We would take Harrison and turn that into an image association. I picture hurry. Son Harry Son so little boy very Harry. My ninth location is a towel rack, so I would see the Little Harry son the Little Harry boy. Maybe trying to dry his hair on the towels on the towel rack, and then his hair gets tangled up and he started screaming and yelling for his mommy. It's a Harry boy. Harry. SON GETS HIS HAIR tangled up on that location. Whatever that location is for you for me? It's a towel rack because we know that whenever we see the Harry Son that represents Harrison Ford William Henry Harrison as nine president. The tenth president was John. Tyler he was the first VP to get elevated to the level of president after William, Henry Harrison passed away unfortunately from pneumonia and so John Tyler served from eighteen, forty, one through eighteen, forty five, and he did not have a VP of his own for Tyler I would picture a tie like address, tie, or both Thai Thai for Tyler and I would see that on my tenth location now tenth location for me. It's a door. What does that tenth location for? For you whatever that is, make sure to picture a tie doing something on that location. Maybe your decorating location with a bunch of ties everywhere for me, I would like squeeze the door. That's my tenth location. I would squeeze the door with the tie, and maybe I secure in lockdown with several more ties, and I just keep squeezing the door with ties everywhere up and down the door. Because now I know whenever I see the ties on their door I would think of Tyler John Tyler. Right now, quick review brought to you by eight. Dot Com. Let's go right into this. On the first location, inner I room, we would see a washing machine for me. I saw that on my window, and then we would translate that back into the name of the president. This case George Washington. The second location featured an apple apple for John Adams Apple. The third location was chef son on that third location from a SOFA. It's the chefs on was begging a cake. CAKE ON THE SOFA third location, and we would translate that back into the name, which is Thomas Jefferson. The fourth location has medicine and for medicine. We think James Madison James. Madison is our fourth president was our fifth president think of the fifth location? We saw moon rowing on the fifth location. That's right. The Fifth President is James Monroe Moon. Rowing now jump over to the second room or if you were a little. Little bit more advanced here and you link to images on one location. You're still in that first room for those of us. Now want to really practices and our skills. Let's jump over to the second room I. Location there is a toilet for me as toilet. What is at first location in that room or six overall location? Remember we picture apple on that location for John Quincy Adams as six president, if you. You wanted to link a barbecue to that to help you remember Quincy. You can do that as well. The seven location features a Jack Carjack four Andrew Jackson the eighth location for me. It's a shower L.. It's pretty easy to link a van burning on the shower so I picture Martin Van Buren as the eighth president on my eighth location on the ninth location, a towel rack for me. What is it for you? I would picture a hurry. Son On that location Harry, little boy on that location, and I would translate that back into the of William Henry. Hera Sin Harrison four nine president. which unfortunately pass away just thirty one days into his presidency, and he was succeeded by his vp who, in our dental education picture, a tie which represents John Tyler as a tent president. Great job you now know the ten president in the correct order and by number I bet you can't do that if you memorize a little jingle a song, because then you would have to repeat that whole song in order to get to the ninth president of the Tenth President in this case of power of this method. If you review, you will be able to say whichever president you want in any order that you want, you would be. Be Able to jump right to say the fifth occasion and see exactly what was happening on there so for me. My fifth location is a TV, and I see moon rowing coming out of that TV, so the president for that is what that's right. Monroe James Monroe. They know exactly how to do that and you can't do that with the Ginger Song, you can do this with the Memory Palace matted ta by your memory. Coach Luis Angel. All right make sure to get the free better memory now guide at a mind, DOT com. Subscribe, leave your comment or a review. We think about this and I'll see you on the next one. Make sure to keep learning. Keep growing and having accelerated and empowered mind. Peace Out. I'm out.

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1832, Jackson vs. Clay: The Reign of King Mob

American Elections: Wicked Game

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1832, Jackson vs. Clay: The Reign of King Mob

"It's January seventeen. Eighty one in Camden South Carolina. Revolutionary War is in full swing and the crown has a firm firm grip on the Carolinas. A British Colonel On horseback inspects the long line of redcoats marching through the money streets sergeant. Let's get these men moving cirque mark. The British just delivered America a crushing defeat at the battle of Camden. And they've made the town their main supply post for their southern campaign. Camden Emden is filled with American prisoners of war. Forced to Labor for the British garrison stationed there among the prisoners is a lanky boy of thirteen and his brother both couriers for the continental army. The voice struggles to carry a sack of feed for the horses out of the corner of his eye. He watches as the British. Colonel dismounts his horse and steps right in deep puddle of Mudd. You or the boys exhausted he knows if he does not deliver the sack. Zack you will be struck. So he chooses to ignore the officer. Boy I called you down that second. Come here job for you Wehrley. The boy does as he's told and approaches the officer. The boys ill smallpox is spread among the prisoners and the boys one of the unlucky ones. He in has brother had both caught the illness. See this muck on my boots clean. It was is filled with rage deep down. He hates the British. They killed his older brother just last year and after what he suffered in the camp indignity of cleaning the officers boot too much. Did you hear what I said. Boy Clean my boots. No Sir you will clean the now. He should Polish them to. I will not Sir Jared find me I do Sir may clean them for yourself. Infuriated officer draws his Saber and strikes down at the boys slashing his left hand to the bone and gashing his head. That will teach you your place. I'm an officer in His Majesty's service. You boy you are. The boy was left by the officer bleeding in a pool of mud two weeks later as he recovered. His brother died of smallpox a few months after that his mother died of cholera after nursing wounded soldiers. His wounds eventually healed old but the scars of British hatred left an indelible mark. The boy would channel that hatred into a distinguished career of military service fighting his way up the ranks and becoming a general the US army he would fight to become a congressman and a senator and in eighteen twenty eight. This orphan child of Scots Irish immigrants would would win the fight to become president of the United States. Andrew Jackson had lost his family but he would find the sense of belonging he had always desired in the service of his country. Wicked game is brought to you by Rosetta Stone. Your phone is a marvel of of modern communication. You can talk tax type TAP. Watch listen stream cast you want to communicate the best tool ever invented for that purpose is in your or hands. 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I'm Lindsey Graham and this is American elections wicked game uh-huh and Andrew Jackson's opponent in eighteen twenty four election. John Quincy Adams called him a barbarian. Who could hardly spell his own name? mm-hmm Jackson's greatest political rival and Rick Ley called him ignorant passionate and easily swayed by the base of men who surround him but in eighteen twenty. Four your General Jackson was able to win the love of the common man and the popular vote but when he failed to get an electoral majority the choice of president was left to the the House of Representatives. It was there. The Jackson believed a corrupt bargain between John. Quincy Adams and Speaker of the House Henry. Clay stole the presidency from him. Adams made Clay Speaker of the house. In exchange Jackson believed Klay helped atoms win the election. Four years later in the eighteen twenty eight contest best. The number of people turning out to vote. Quadrupled Jackson won both and electoral landslide and revenge against Adams but Jackson's fight with Henry. Clay was far from over the election of eighteen. Twenty eight was one of the most contentious in American history. Jackson was called a murderer for the many duels he had fought in his career. His mother was called a prostitute and he was called a bastard the lotto but it was the attacks on his wife Rachel during the campaign that cut deeper than any British officer. Sabree ever could Jackson's rivalry with clay was the plague of his first term and was at the heart of the election of eighteen. Thirty to a struggle between the Washington establishment sprint champion of the common man. This is episode twelve eighteen. Thirty to the reign of King Mob It's December twenty third eighteen. Twenty eight on a drizzly and devilishly Cold Day in Nashville Tennessee Army captain in full full uniform hurriedly exits the house of Nashville in struggles rebutting the brass buttons of his coat a piece of paper in his hand Mr Edmonson insult Mr Edmonson Misr Edmonson the innkeeper tends to the fire. Mr Edmonson. Did you hear how could I not barging in here like the devils after. You've you've as edmonson stack logs. The captain holds out his soggy note. Message came from me today. What does it say it's Mrs Jackson? She passed in tonight. What Mr Edmonson knows? The Jackson's well they're the pride of Nashville his in a second home to old hickory and his wife whenever they leave the sanctuary sanctuary of their plantation the hermitage for trip to town. There must be some mistake. Mrs Jackson was here in just a few short days ago. She was looking for address for tonight's festivities. She's she looked perfectly well. Edmonson is part of National's Party Planning Committee for Jackson sendoff. The whole town will be there to wish Jackson farewell as he heads to Washington tend to assume the presidency. There's no mistake sir. The notice requests all officers come to the hermitage with badges of mourning. Her funeral is tomorrow. Edmonson Edmonson takes the damp handbill in his hands. Rene's the words in disbelief. This must be a trick from judge. McNary that old coot Adams man the other night at the illumination. His house was the only one in Nashville. He's just trying to sully the celebration. No Sir One Jackson Slaves delivered the note. He says his mistress died of a broken heart of broken heart. This Jackson got a hold of a pamphlet in town. A few days back Edmonson size. He knows exactly likely which pamphlets she saw. The man came about the in last week trying to deliver a stack of them called her adulterous. Who worse things? I care not to repeat. Repeat what did you do. I told him to leave. I told him libellous pages. Were not welcome in this house or anywhere in National Distraught Edmonson sinks into the chair by the fire. I should've worn the general about the pamphlets. Might have been able to shield her from it of. Don't blame yourself surf. The fault lies with its author. No doubt that snake Henry Clay. I hope General Jackson shoots him right. Between the eyes. EDMUNDS and Krummel's notice throws the fire. We'll think about that later right now. There's much work to be done edmonson quickly heads for the door. Where will you go sir to speak with the mayor? We're no longer throwing celebration. Captain Planning a memorial in the fall fall of eighteen. Twenty eight at the height of the election. Jackson did his best to shield his wife. Rachel from the assault on her character in the press supporters of John Quincy Adams hoping to smear Jackson had focused their attacks. On Rachel's previous marriage Jackson blamed the accusations of adultery and bigamy for weakening her heart and causing her death sendoff celebration in Nashville. On the evening of December twenty third eighteen twenty eight became a final farewell to Rachel Jackson. Her husband General. Andrew Jackson listen was devastated. It's rumored that on the night of the twenty third. He laid her body in his bed and slept by her side on Christmas Eve. Eighteen twenty eight. Ten thousand people gathered at the Hermitage to pay their respects. Mrs Jackson's body was dressed in the white satin dress. She had bought for the sendoff celebration in her eulogy. Jackson said I am now the president of the United States and in a short time must take my way to the metropolis. AWFULLEST my country. I would be grateful for the privilege of taking her to my post bonner seating her by my side but I go alone to the place of new and arduous. Louis duties. Rachel's tombstone would later. Read here lie. The remains of Mrs Rachel Jackson wife of President Jackson slander might wound but could not dishonor Jackson laughter. His inauguration a widower. Those close to him said that Rachel's Death Age Jackson Twenty years. Several weeks later Jackson arrived in Washington on February eleventh. Eighteen twenty nine. He broke with precedent and refused to greet outgoing president. John Quincy Adams the White House. He made his feelings about Adams quite clear saying any man who would permit public journal under his control to assault the reputation of a respectable female much less the wife of his rival and competitor for first office in the world was not entitled to the respect of any honorable man Adams in his own protest did not attend Jackson's inauguration. Curation March fourth eighteen twenty nine the day before the inauguration was a beautiful spring day to accommodate the throng of People Jackson move the inauguration automation to the Eastern Front of the Capitol making him the first president ever to take the oath of office there inauguration which traditionally remain on the eastern side all the way through Jimmy Carter's inauguration in nineteen seventy seven. The massive crowd gathered to welcome old hickory. The nickname Jackson had earned during the war of eighteen twelve. It was his victory in the famous battle of New Orleans that also earned him a status as an American hero. One I witnessed to the inauguration described the scene. It seemed as if half the nation had rushed at once into the capital. It was like the inundation of the northern barbarians into Rome the West and the south seem to have precipitated themselves upon the north and overwhelmed welded there every motion seemed to cry out. Victory strange faces filled every public place and every face seem to bear defiance on its Brown that night on the evening of March fourth after the inauguration was finished the crown pushed. It's way to the White House. What would have typically been a high society inaugural ball soon descended into a Raucous Party of Frontier Zeman? The throng of well-wishers flooded the White House. All hoping to get a glimpse of their champion President. The mass of people became became so aggressive with their adulation. The Jackson might have been crushed. Had he not escaped out the other side of the building. Meanwhile inside the White House the tables celebratory cakes ice cream orange punch were overturned. The mob of revellers utterly destroyed the interior of the mansion and Adam supporter who witnessed the event later underwrote. What a scene did we witness? The Majesty of the people had disappeared and ravel a mob of boys negroes women children's scrambling fighting romping. The whole house have been inundated by the ravel mob. It was perhaps a portend to things to come the reign of King mob a Supreme Court Justice Joseph story labeled it had begun before the dust settled on the inauguration. Celebrations Jackson and his cabinet went to work consolidating power. The election of eighteen twenty eight had birthed a new era in party politics. Political maneuvering had become a sort sorta sport and the newly formed Democratic Party had won the championship. The man who knew the game best was Jackson's new secretary of state. Martin Van Buren the other wise known as the little magician. Van Buren had been the man behind the curtain in Jackson's bid for the presidency in eighteen. Twenty eight and with the White House now in their possession. The Spring of eighteen twenty nine became a calling Jackson and Van Buren cleared out. The executive branch of those who were politically antagonistic to the Democratic Party Eighty van buren declared triumphantly to the victors belong the spoils coining. What would come to be called the spoils system the practice of rewarding those who had offered support during a campaign with powerful government offices? It had been the promise of political posts that had encouraged great deal of Jackson's political and financial support during the election. Nearly one thousand officials were removed from office to make way for friendlier political appointees amounting to ten percent of all positions. The Washington elite were apoplectic as Jackson. The conqueror doled out the spoils political war. Jackson treated opposition to his presidency. The same way. He treated foes in his personal life giving back worse than he received. He was the general again strong and decisive unwavering. In his determination regardless of who stood in his way away Jackson acted on what he felt was best for the country and did not bend to other's opinions though he was a poor child of North Irish immigrants and an enemy of the British Aristocracy Doc. CRECY Jackson's unremitting autocracy at his political enemies brand him as King Andrew. The first but in the spring of eighteen twenty nine Jackson's the biggest threat was not his political enemies. It was his own cabinet during the eighteen twenty eight election and the lions have disparate. Groups are grown together to dethrone. John Quincy Adams was it would take every ounce of old hickory ability to maintain peace in his administration and keep these disparate groups together but despite his political maneuverings cracks in the administration began to show standing on opposite sides of the widening rift. Were two men Secretary of state. Martin van Buren and Jackson's newly elected vice president. President John C.. Calhoun Calhoun hailed from South Carolina. The same as Andrew Jackson he had served as President Monroe's secretary of war and was a candidate in the crowded eighteen twenty four presidential election knowing he could not win in eighteen twenty four Calhoun had withdrawn his name focusing instead on becoming John. Quincy Adams James Vice President but during Adams tenure in the White House Calhoun Adams became estranged the election of eighteen. Twenty eight vice president. Calhoun had done the unthinkable in Kabul. He defected from Adams reelection campaign and threw his support behind Jackson. Who went on to win? And it was. Martin Van Buren. Who had convinced? Calhoun to switch to Jackson side but in eighteen twenty nine calhoun would turn on Andrew Jackson and his Secretary of State. Martin van Buren Calhoun. Mutiny centered entered around a tawdry scandal involving another cabinet members. Wife her name was Peggy. 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Before Jackson's inauguration on January first eighteen twenty nine a young senator from Tennessee see named John Eaton had married Margaret. Peggy O'Neal Peggy. O'Neill was not a woman of society like Andrew Jackson. She was a child of Irish immigrants. Her father owned a tavern call the Franklin House a popular gathering place for Washington politicians Peggy's childhood had been spent tending bar playing piano and dancing housing for the guests at her father's in in eighteen. Sixteen she had married a navy man named John Timberlake while only seventeen years old in eighteen. Twenty eight after after ten years of marriage new spread the John Timberlake committed suicide at sea by slitting his own throat. Less than a year later on New Year's Eve eighteen twenty nine. Peggy married John Eaton. Senator Eaton had been a good friend of Andrew Jackson. For many years and Jackson had encouraged the marriage. He felt a connection with a girl. He called the smartest little woman in America ahead of her time. Socially Peggy was outspoken opinionated and had charming wit she was also extremely dreamily beautiful and garnered plenty of attention from men and plenty of suspicion from their wives but scandal seemed to follow her everywhere during Peggy's first marriage while her late husband. John Timberlake was at sea. She allegedly had an illicit affair with Eaton. It was said that when the affair was discovered timberlake had killed himself from grief all this was Washington gossip until March of eighteen twenty nine when Jackson appointed eaten his secretary of war a delegation of Concern Democrats. That's held a conference with President Jackson to convince him to reconsider the appointment but Jackson ignored them. Feeling a debt was owed to Senator Eaton. who had publicly come to his wife? Rachel's defense offense during the slanders election that Jacksonville killed her. Eaton's appointment sent shockwaves through Washington and it caused turmoil inside his cabinet in the spring of eighteen twenty nine the wives of the cabinet members publicly. Snubbed Peggy Eaton ignoring her at social functions and leaving her off invitation lists. The ringleader of the bunch. Was the vice. President's wife Floride. Calhoun Jackson Cabinet agreed on nearly nothing little united them and the peace between the men was precarious John. Eaton's appointment and thereby peggy social ascendants shattered their thin alliance and set in motion. The biggest scandal of Andrew Jackson's presidency when the scandal reached a fever pitch one of Jackson's biggest supporters stepped into defend. Peggy Eaton Andrew Jackson's presidency. It's the fall of eighteen twenty nine in a ballroom. In the nation's capital the Russian minister is playing host to the men and women of Washington's high-society Washington is all a buzz about the appointment of secretary of war. John Eaton and in fact the wives of Jackson's cabinet members are in open revolt old. They've made their views clear. Hegi eaten is not welcome Secretary of state. Martin van Buren he's differently. He's a widower himself in light Jackson. He's sick and tired of the attacks and slides on Peggy's honor so vampire takes matters into his own hands mystery. Please sit by the fire. Have a drink think gladly Arab stairs is too stuffy for my liking. I'm sure it is. How Fares Mississippi we you saw what happened to that British ministers ball? She was shunned at the table insulted. My wife is apparently Washington's favorite pastime. She's a resilient woman far more than me. I don't know how she stomachs Gaggle of Hans. Hennes indeed I should like the roast a lot of them beginning with Mrs. Calhoun eating smiles but then his demeanor turns serious. He Leans in close. Mr Van Buren. We cannot go on like this. Mr Jackson has been most hospitable but Mrs Eaten Hassle has her limits. And so do I. So do we all on that front. I've manufactured a situation. This evening that will elevate your wife to the dismay may of that Harem. What situation with that? Be Our guest of Honor Mr Haya Heavens the minister to Holland yes. I've arranged for you and your wife to escort escort Mr and Mrs High Offense to the dinner table and sit beside them suppose. The minister has heard the rumours I've already spoken to. The minister told him all about. Oh how wonderful your wife is. He looks forward to dining with you both thank you. Mr Van Buren. My pleasure. Conversation is interrupted by one of ambulance. Men Mr Van Buren. Could you come with me surf. There's there's been an accident upstairs. An accident the vice president's wife if Mrs Calhoun shakes what she bumped into Mrs Eaten Accident Indeed Mr Eden it's time to see that goes cooked Eaton and Van Buren rescued Peggy Eaton from the commotion upstairs and from her uncomfortable exchange with Mrs Calhoun but the drama of the evening was just beginning. Van Buren had tried to get out in front of the scandal by singing Peggy's praises to the Holland Minister. But someone else talked to the minister's wife Life Floride Calhoun Cut van Buren off at the pass and told the minister's wife about the scandal the high gins played cat and mouse with the eames all night. Instead instead of letting the Eaton's escort them to dinner. They skipped it and slipped out early insulted by the escaping. Scape snubbed towards Peggy. Eaton President Jackson threatened to send the Huggins back to Holland as for his own cabinet. Jackson had enough he had lost his own wife have to salacious gossip and partisan attacks he would not permit further abuse of Peggy Eaton. So in late January eighteen thirty. He arranged dinner with his cabinet and placed Mrs Eaten beside him at the table with her at his side with his characteristic anger and vengefulness he admonished. Everyone present the cabinet members and their wives Jackson. Call the attacks on Peggy slander on her character and as Jackson defended Mrs Eaten it was as if he was defending his late. Wife Jackson said female virtue is like a tender delicate flower Mac but the breath of suspicion rest upon it and it withers and perhaps parishes forever Jackson vigorously defended. Mrs Eaton's honor and challenge those spreading rumors to prove their slanders in a letter. He wrote truth. Shuns not the light but falsehood deals and sly and darkened situations and prefers darkness. Because it's deeds are evil. The PSALMIST says the liars tongue we ever hate and banished from our site and vanished. He would Jackson threatened to remove his cabinet if their wives would not fall in line in the winter of eighteen. Thirty at the height of the unpleasantness. Mr Mr Eaton eventually told President Jackson that back in eighteen eighteen then secretary war John. Calhoun had attempted to censor Jackson for his actions. During the invasion of Florida. At the time Jackson had taken a force into Florida in claimed the territories part of the United States during the military action. He had shown his deep hatred for the British by hanging. Being two officers members of Congress had been strongly critical of Jackson's actions. None more so than Calhoun. But until this moment Jackson had been unaware of Calhoun L.. Who attempted blight on his character and had further strain their ability to work together in the end the wives control over their husbands prove stronger than Jackson's threats let's Calhoun and his supporters continued to defy Jackson's commands and they left Jackson no other choice? By April of eighteen. Thirty one Jackson would fire all the members of his cabinet the petticoat affair or the eaten malaria. As Jackson's rivals called it completely dismantled Jackson's administration out of the scandal. A new unofficial council of Moyal Advisors emerged for the president colorfully referred to as the kitchen cabinet. Jackson would rely on their council moving forward. Though Jackson had the power to clear out his cabinet. He did not have the ability to remove his vice as president. Despite the fact that Calhoun and his wife had been at the center of the petticoat affair in his youth Jackson might have challenged Calhoun to a duel but as president he found himself stuck with the man. All Jackson could do sideline him and make it known. He no longer had faith in his vice president opinions. Martin van Buren felt no remorse over the loss of Jackson's esteem for Calhoun not only were the two personal rivals but van Buren had hoped to one day. be named Jackson's heir. Apparent now with the fallout from the eaten. A Fair van Buren found himself in a politically advantageous position. Van Buren Out of solidarity. With Jackson resigned with the rest of the cabinet to give the public appearance that he was merely an administrative reshuffling in December eighteen. Thirty one to reward. His Loyalty Jackson nominated Van Buren to serve as his minister to Great Britain without waiting for the Senate. Confirmation Jackson. Dispatched van Buren overseas to put him to work on January. Twenty fifth eighteen thirty to the rise of Ambien born and the fall of Calhoun was solidified when as fate would have it. The Senate confirmation vote for Van Buren ended in a tie. This put the tie breaking vote in the hands. Hands of vice president. Calhoun with years of bad blood between them. Calhoun voted against Van Buren confirmation though he was thus denied the position of minister. It's a Great Britain in the end. Bambi got what he truly wanted Jackson's nomination for reelection. In eighteen thirty two contest was all but a certainty but Calhoun Calhoun move and the political backlash against it. Solidified van Buren as the best possible choice. For Jackson's running. Calhoun was out van. Buren was in the greatest threat. To Jackson's re election would not come though from John C.. CALHOUN would come from Henry Clay and the National Republican confection Jackson in clay despise each other in a visceral personal way that went far beyond politics. Klay had given Jackson plenty of reasons for these feelings. They included the corrupt bargain of eighteen. Twenty four the dirty campaign. That stole Rachel. Jackson's life Jackson even came to believe that clay was secretly behind the petticoat affair. Affair Jackson said I am fully warranted in charging Mr Klay with circulating these slanders reports. I've not the least up at every secret. Rumor is circulated by the minions of Mr Clay so it was to be a showdown while Jackson prepared to defend his presidency against a challenge from Henry Clay Clay prepared to take advantage of the discontent between Calhoun Southern Faction and King Andrew. The first in the eighteen thirty two contest. Clay manufacturer a crisis. That would further isolate isolate Jackson politically. He would force upon Jackson a lose lose situation and put old hickory strength to the testing Wicked game is sponsored by. Gabby if you own a car or a house you have insurance but do you have the best deal. How would you even know? 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Eighteen thirty two at the White House. Martin van Buren gently knocks on the door to Andrew Jackson's bedroom. Mr Mr President. May I come in. There's no answer from inside and Buren has been overseas in England for the last few months and now after his diplomatic post was denied by Congress. Congress he's returned to the capital. Mr Van Buren calls out Mr President. Your staff has told me of your condition. May I come in still no I answer. Jackson is not well. He's been in bed for days. He feels the weight of his political isolation and the threat of his enemies. Who Conspire against him? Then buren Karen calls out one. Last time I pray that your properly attired because I will open the store whether you're ready for me or not. President Jackson sprawled out on the bed is tall slender frame. A specter of the man van Buren saw only months ago. They told me you were in a bad way. I had hoped they were exaggerating. Hello friend the ghost speaks. But I'm quite glad you're here. Well while Van Buren was away Henry. Clay Jackson's political nemesis Saul weakness in Jackson's coalition. Since calhoun break from the president. The South has been in revolt so clay introduced legislation to recharger the Second Bank of the United States. And so doing he's painting Jackson to a bit of a corner off. So sorry about your point. DON'T BE MR president. It is Calhoun. Who should apologize for voting against me regardless so? I'm glad you're here. It's clay. He's Jackson breaks into a violent coughing fit then buren offers the president his kerchief. I'm I find it's clay and the Damn Bank. Jackson considers the second bank unconstitutional. He doesn't believe leaving an institution with so much control over. The people should have so little accountability. He has heard rumors from several members of his kitchen cabinet. The bank is using it so called money. Power to further its agenda and line. Richmond's pockets at the expense of the people. It's a nuisance. I wish nothing more than 'cause it's immediate destruction. That is what they want. Mr President they have you in a dilemma. Those in Pennsylvania favored the Charter of the bank. If you veto the bill you will lose Pennsylvania and you cannot lose Pennsylvania and survive. If I do not veto the bill I will lose fatally in the south and the West. re-charter wasn't due for three more years. I this is clay strategy to separate you from the love. The people now you know why you find me in the state you. I've already spoken with friends. We have left in Congress. They will do what they can't obstruct. Its passage or by time until after the election. I don't do inaction. Mr Van Buren. Yes but at this point. No decision is the best decision. Mr The bank Mr Van Barrack in China kill me but I will kill it first Andrew Jackson was an island island unto himself. One of his closest confidants one set of him of all men I have known. Andrew Jackson was the one most entirely sufficient for himself in eighteen. Thirty two Jackson would once again take matters into his own hands and wage war against Henry Clay and the Second Bank of the United States but as he geared up for that fight with Klay the war with his former vice president John C Calhoun waged on on April thirteenth eighteen. Thirty two at the Jefferson Day dinner president. An Andrew Jackson and Vice President John Calhoun publicly came to blows when Jackson rose to make a toast are union. It must be preserved Calhoun and fire back the Union next to our liberty most dear the toast wise in a manner of speaking a war of words over a political standoff known on as the nullification crisis having seen his own family sacrificed in the cause of the revolution. The Orphan President Jackson saw the Union as his second and family in his mind. This union this American Union crafted in part with Jackson family. Blood was indissoluble as its president. He held the sacred cred role of being the nation's temporary steward. Perhaps even something more. It's father so while Jackson strongly favored states' rights especially when it came to the bank. He would never extend those rights to the point of threatening the union during his time in the White House Jackson had pushed for protective tariffs to bolster American industry. South had pushed back calling. The tariffs unconstitutional in his own response to the tariffs John. Calhoun drafted an essay titled Exposition and protest. Calhoun espoused the right of states to ignore unconstitutional. Federal laws then in eighteen thirty two South Carolina at Calhoun urging threatened in to use force to prevent the federal collection of the so-called tariff of abominations Jackson the champion of the common man and a proponent of limited government found himself himself in the position of demanding federal power in May of eighteen thirty two. The Democrats held their first I national nominating convention. Jackson went unchallenged. Calhoun was jettisoned in favor of. Martin Van Buren the Democratic Party galvanized around the Jackson van Buren ticket get and prepared for an electoral fight with Henry Clay and in the summer of eighteen thirty two klay successfully made the bank charter the main issue for the National Republicans. He called the bank. A great and Beneficent Institution absolutely necessary to a sound ample and healthy currency on June eleventh eighteen. Thirty two despite Van Buren attempts to stall vote until after the election. I BILL RE chartering. The Second Bank passed the Senate on July third. It passed the House and was presented entered to Jackson for his signature. Jackson did what he always did. He trusted his instincts on July fourth. Eighteen thirty two. He vetoed the bill. Klay use the veto to push the King Andrew Narrative but Jackson answered him days later with a powerful veto message his famous argument against the Second Bank. Though he it was one of the longest ever written can be summed up in one word. Monopoly Jackson called the re-charter unconstitutional writing each public officer officer who takes an oath to support. The constitution swears that he will support it as he understands it and not as it is understood by others. Jackson defended the idea that each each branch of government had its own duty to protect the constitution from the other branches. If the president deemed the actions of the Supreme Court or Congress unconstitutional it. It was his duty to fight them. President Jackson's message worked on the people. The election was held from Friday November second to Wednesday December fifth and the results. Also the election shocked the country after two hundred eight possible electoral votes Jackson earned two hundred nineteen he had won in a landslide. Clay had only one forty nine votes Jackson had again been supported by the masses but his war with a second bank would continue for years and his war on the bank would earn earn President Jackson's strong support in parts of the West South and north. Some newspapers went as far to advocate Jackson for a third term. The Election Shen of eighteen thirty to solve the death of the National Republican faction the successor to the Federalist Party of Alexander. Hamilton John Adams in its place. A new more powerful powerful political movement would emerge around opposition to Andrew Jackson's policies. The whigs got their name from the British whig party which opposed absolute monarchy. The American whigs would stand against King Andrew the first and rally around the principles that Congress not the president should control the levers of power in American Eric in democracy but the election of eighteen thirty two was significant for another reason out of the two hundred eighty eight electoral votes. A single vote was cast for former attorney. General William wirt the presidential nominee for the first third party in American political history. The Anti masons. The Anti Masons had created their party in opposition to freemasonry. They believe the secret organization was nothing more than a corrupt elitist group held the reins of political power and installed shady backroom deals the leadership of the United States. Making the very idea of the freemasons in conflict with the ideals of Republican government Washington was a mason. James Monroe was a mason. As was the current president of the United States. Andrew Jackson not only Jackson a member but he was a leader. He had served this grandmaster of the Grand Lodge of Tennessee from eighteen. Twenty two to twenty four but in the election of eighteen thirty two the anti masons had barely made an impact. It was in the election Asian of eighteen thirty six that they would rise to power in the state of Pennsylvania and by uniting with the whigs the anti masons would hold the key to the election of eighteen thirty six palm of their hands on the next episode of wicked game the election of eighteen. Thirty six the two party system. MM-HMM GETS A third option as the whigs rise to power in Pennsylvania. Set out to swing the outcome of the election. Don't miss a single week of our marsh from seventeen eighty nine to twenty twenty. Hit the subscribe button and your podcast APP now. This show is supported by our listeners. Please give us a rating leave a review but the single best way to help the show grow is to tell others share with your friends and family find us on social media and wicked game pod. 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1840, Van Buren vs. Harrison: Ole Tip

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1840, Van Buren vs. Harrison: Ole Tip

"It's May sixteenth eighteen thirty seven at a bank in Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania Friendly Bank Teller Theresa customer at the counter welcomed the Bank of Pittsburgh. What can I do for Sir with a smile customer? Replies I have nearly two hundred dollars in specie gold and silver. I'd like to make a deposit in exchange for paper notes. The teller hesitates for a moment. Concerned expression falls over his face. The customer asks is there something officer. No Sir nothing wrong. Only the teller leans in confidentially and speaks in a whisper in the spirit of fair dealing. I feel it my duty to warn you. This bank is this is no longer paying out specie for notes. Are you aware of the change in our policy. The customer is fully aware banks. All across the country have stopped paying. Hang out specie. It was only a matter of time before the problem came to Pennsylvania but this particular customer isn't worried one bit he's confident in the Bank of Pittsburgh yes S.. I'm fully aware of the change in policy. Sir and you must know. It's not our choice just yesterday. The county courthouse passed a resolution requiring all banks in the city of stopped paying out specie to customer. As I as I said I am fully aware but my desire is deposit specie in exchange for notes not the other way around. Yes I I understand only you will not be able to get the specie back under the current law. I would be remiss if I did not warn you of this. I appreciate your honesty serve but the fact remains I have two hundred dollars worth of specie. VC right here in my bag. The customer such as bag on the counter with Thaad and I have confidence in the Bank of Pittsburgh. Does the bank want my business or not. Were we asked coarser will thank you. I'll drop the paperwork right away. On May sixteenth. You've eighteen thirty. Seven version of this story appeared in the Pittsburgh Gazette. Though the story was presented as real journalism it was most likely fake news. A planted story to show the people of Pittsburgh that the Bank of Pittsburgh was doing just fine but the gazette story concealed darker truth in eighteen thirty seven. The Bank of Pittsburgh like many banks across the country was teetering on the verge of crisis. The panic of eighteen thirty seven as it would come to be called would devastate. The American economy caused the people to lose faith in their leader President. Martin van Buren I'm Lindsey Graham and this is American elections weird game In the panic of eighteen thirty seven was caused caused by a myriad of factors including British banking policies that traveled across the pond. But the WHIG party lay the blame at the feet of Andrew Jackson in his bank. War Jackson had vetoed the re-charter Second Bank of the United States. Favoring decentralized state banks or Jackson's pet banks as his enemies called them Jackson accidents decision to ultimately withdraw federal deposits from the Second Bank Force the bank to call in its notes. The result was catastrophic to the economy shrinking credit it dwindling money supply and a wave of bankruptcies and unemployment the panic of eighteen thirty seven and the ensuing economic depression played. Martin Van Buren first term in keeping with the presidential standards of the day. Van Buren was reluctant to use federal funds to save the economy. The decision cost him his popularity and earned earned him the nickname Martin van ruin for perhaps the first time in US history. The American people directly blamed a sitting president for financial woes in the prior elections of eighteen. Twenty eight and eighteen thirty. Two Democrats elected Andrew Jackson by defining him as a war hero and a true champion of the common man in eighteen. Thirty six Martin. Van Buren was elected on the strength of Jackson's legacy but in the election of eighteen forty the opposition whigs would take a page out of the Democratic Attic playbook and run a war hero candidate of their own to unseat Van Buren General William Henry Harrison the hero of the battle of tippecanoe. This is episode fourteen eighteen forty old tip. It's January eighteen. I'm forty at a mansion on the Susquehanna River in Harrisburg Pennsylvania. The banks of the river covered in snow. The water nearly frozen over. Richard Smith Elliott a young newspaper man knocks on the large wooden door to the mansion. Thomas Elder Harrisburg banker and the former attorney general of Pennsylvania. Answers the the door Mr Elliot. Thank you for coming will thank you for having me Mr elder come in where it's warm elder leads Elliot through a maze of rooms and hallways. He's back to his private office. May I offer you a drink. Oh yes please have a seat by the fire warm. Your hands elder pours two glasses of wine and joins this guest. He gets down to the business at hand. I assume you've seen this elder hands Elliott a copy of a newspaper from a few weeks back the December eleventh edition of the Baltimore Republican and Anti Whig newspaper the article attack the whigs presumptive presidential candidate. General William Henry Harrison Republican painted Harrison as old weak feeble and financially desperate. Elliot takes the paper in his hands and reads the words. Give Harrison a barrel of hard cider and settle a pension in of two thousand a year on him and take my word for it. He will sit the remainder of his days in his log cabin. Yes the attacking the president unrelenting Mr Alien The New York Herald called autumn. An old woman I know and the New York Evening Post called him a pauper. They're trying to tear down our war. Hero Minister Elia. No No. They're not trying they're succeeding. Perhaps Mr Elliot. Instead of refuting these insults we should own them. And what exactly are you suggesting. Elder Leans in close with a gleam in his eye. I'm suggesting we build one Elliott's face falls into confusion. A log cabin yes. Most of the voters today their parents and grandparents lived in log cabins. This article is an insult to them. What does paint the Democrats as the party of the elite and Harrison the candidate of the common man it worked for Andrew Jackson perhaps we could use their strategy against them indeed? Let's bring the campaign down to the people. Let us stoop to conquer anger in January of eighteen forty Richard Elliot and Thomas Elder created. What might be called the first campaign? Pain logo in American history in their meeting. Elder drew a rough sketch a log cabin complete with chimney stacks pile of wood and a raccoon skin hanging from the facade and the following day Elliott hired an artist's work up a final version and Atta meeting of Pennsylvania wigs in Harrisburg on January twentieth Elliott presented the image with the accompanying opening slogan democracy reform and one presidential term in response to the image. The crowd of wigs erupted into what one newspaper called the hussars of the multitude. The image caught on like wildfire spreading to every corner of the country and within a matter of weeks William Henry Harrison. The hero of the battle of tippecanoe canoe had a new identity. The hero of the common man. A few weeks after elder Elliott's meeting one Harrison friendly newspaper wrote the people are of the opinion that General Harrison has lived in a log cabin long enough and they intend on the fourth of March eighteen. Forty one to give him free rent of the Great White House in Washington city in late February eighteen. Forty the whig national convention was held in Columbus Ohio. The heavy rain and bad bad weather didn't stop thousands of Ohioans from flocking to Columbus a massive banner hung over the main street Harrison and tyler. The pillars of reform John on Tyler was a former senator from Virginia. Harrisons presumptive vice presidential nominee. Tyler had been a Democrat until he broke with his party over Andrew Jackson's Bank war. He was meant to give the ticket geographical balance and to entice Jackson defectors in the south to vote whig in eighteen forty throngs of people lined the muddy streets of Columbus. The county militia led a procession as bands blared their brass at full volume behind. The militia was a giant canoe poll by a herd of horses at the Front of the canoe canoe a massive tree with a gigantic portrait of Harrison hanging from its limbs behind it an even bigger canoe seventy feet long and packed with countless supporters. The parade was an impressive sight float with fake steamboats replicas of military force in large wooden cabins all on wheels and pulled by white horses. The parade led to a makeshift stage. Where some thirty thousand people gathered as wig delegates took to the podium to declare their support for William Henry Harrison and John Tyler and the closing of the convention? The massive crowd joined in a chant Hussan Hussah Harrison and reform. The convention was unlike anything the the country had ever seen. Journalists who covered the event were literally at a loss of words. One Pro Harrison reporter wrote that he had seen the event unfold. But then word simply could would not describe it. The convention galvanized the whigs around Harrison's candidacy shortly after one supporter returned home and put his passionate feelings into song writing the lyrics to what would become the first campaign slogan in American history. What has caused a Great Commotion Motion Motion Our Country Through it is the ball? All are rolling on for tippecanoe and Tyler. Too Harrison campaign also made use of alcohol as a way of getting up support One Philadelphia liquor man allegedly so bottles in the shape of log cabins. According to legend it was the election of eighteen forty that gave rise to the colloquial term for liquor. That is still used today Eh. A term derived from the last name of that Philadelphia Distiller Edmund Booze but the anti whig paper. The Ohio Statesman was less enthusiastic. In in late February. Eighteen forty statesman wrote disparagingly of the whig convention songs and drinking and carousing appeals to men's worst passions are introduced into into the political meeting instead of argument and appeals to their senses. The carefully crafted image of Harrison as a regular Joe who drank hard cider and lived in the log cabin when was ally Harrison was not a common man and neither was tyler. Both had been born into wealthy plantation families in Virginia so in the spring of Eighteen Forty Democrats sought to tear down Harrison's false image and show the American people who they believed he truly was a tool of the elite and a fraud. on February fourteenth eighteen. Forty a house debate Michigan representative Isaac Crazy took Harrison's candidacy to task ask by attacking one of its strongest attributes. His worn record crazy leveled serious charge. Harrison's victory at the battle of Tippecanoe was hardly victory at all prairie declared anyone who will put himself to the trouble of reading. The official account of the battle of tippecanoe will see the General Harrison performed no great active generalship on that addication Asserted that due to Harrison's ineptitude American troops had suffered massive casualties. Harrison's bravery was also called into question Harrison Democrats claimed have been afraid of being targeted by Indian fighters during the battle of Tippecanoe so in the heat of the moment and act of cowardice. He had forced another another officer to ride his horse. That officer had died in Harrison's place. The story was a lie but it didn't stop the Democrats from telling it crazy. Mary also attacked Harrison's conduct in another military engagement the battle of the Thames according to query the real hero of Thames was Martin Van Buren Vice President and Richard Mentor Johnson. All Dick as he was known crazy alleged that while Harrison was hiding in the woods Johnson had done all the work in the house. Debate wigs WIGGs rallied to Harrison's defense one congressman read a statement from one of Harrison's former men I know Sir that cannonballs and bombshells flew thick around him in these battles horses were shot down under him. I speak what my eyes have. Seen General Harrison is not a coward the day after Kerry's attack and Ohio whig representative native. Tom Corwin fought back. Corwin attacked prairies. Military record crazy had served as a brigadier general in peacetime according to Corwin craze most dangerous there's mission had been marching in a parade. The House Gallery was packed with spectators senators who bellowed with laughter as Corwin cut crazy down to size the next day. John Quincy Adams pronounced craze political career. Dead by referring to him as the late general query perhaps the whigs had succeeded in defending. Harrison's war record if not the dubious claims about his humble beginnings and early May have eighteen forty. Thousands of wigs gathered in Baltimore's monument square for a political rally. It was rowdy affair with parades songs. Log Cabins and cider one float in the massive parade displayed a clever poem. Farewell Dear van. You're not our man Dan to guide the ship. They'll try tip on. Tuesday may sixth. While the whigs met in Baltimore's Monument Square the Democrats held their own convention in Baltimore's musical. The meeting struck an altogether different tone. From the whigs. Keynote Speaker Tennessee. Senator Felix Grundy Rondi led off by saying we wish no deceptive parade of log cabins and empty signed barrels. We desire to address ourselves to the intelligence of the people. President Van Buren did not attend his son. Who attended on his behalf was alarmed by the tone of the convention? The sound of the rowdy whigs could be heard inside the music hall. All the Democrats by contrast were sober and restrained Van Buren son would state that. The delegates seem to lack a universal sense of the necessity of action. An organization position but if Democrats lacked urgency. They still accomplished quite a bit on. Wednesday may seventh two hundred four eight Democratic delegates from twenty one different states. It's rolled up their sleeves and went to work. Drafting a nine point political platform the first official policy platform in American political history. It's thesis was this this. The powers of the federal government are limited. The rights of the states should reign supreme throughout the convention. Party leaders condemned the whigs strategy. A stupid thing to conquer Democrats felt the whigs. Were playing an insidious game pretending to be something. They were clearly not in order to whip up support with the masses Harrison. Persson was not a man of the people and the whigs were not the People's Party they were wealthy bankers. Not Log cabin men. The Democrats were the true party of states. Rights and Martin Van Buren like Andrew Jackson before him was the true champion of the people by unanimous. Voice vote the convention named Martin Van Buren the Democratic craddock nominee for the eighteen. Forty election. The question of the vice presidency though was an entirely different matter for many sticking with old Dick Johnson was the path of least resistance. He was a war hero to a direct answer to old tippecanoe but for many other party members especially in the South Colonel Johnson was a nonstarter Carter and the election of eighteen thirty six. He had been narrowly nominated as van buren running mate in the face of staunch opposition in the general election after he failed receive a majority of votes for the vice presidency. The Senate had to intervene and named him vice president in a contingent election Johnson was controversial because he had a skeleton in his closet he had fathered two children within the Lotto woman named Julia a slave he had inherited from his father in response to the scandal southern block the Democratic Party revolted against Johnson and refused to renominate him at the Baltimore Convention in an unprecedented turn of events. The Democrats did not nominate nominated vice presidential candidate at all since the advent of the national nominating convention. It was the first and only time in American history that a political party do not choose choose a vice presidential running mate seeing weakness the whigs lampooned the Democratic convention with Abiding Song. Pretty Little Martin. tiptoe fine couldn't couldn't get a candidate for vice president to please his mind riding. The Anti Van Buren wave generated by the Democrat convention. The whigs took their strategy to the next level in the eighteen. Forty contest in stark break from precedent. Harrison himself would campaign on the road he would deliver over twenty speeches in Ohio alone alone. Countless more and counties cities and states all across the country Harrison was being portrayed as a man of the people so got out among the masses to it It's June eleventh eighteen. Forty at Fort Migs Peres burgo now in front of a crowd of over thirty thousand General William Henry Harrison stand centre-stage Harrison and his campaign advisers chose Fort megs for a reason. Kevin Harrison had erected the four during the war of eighteen twelve and heroically defended it against an onslaught of British Indian attacks. Harrison bellows to the crowd. Booy I sure could use something to wet my whistle one of Harrison's campaigners hands him a large jug of hard cider. The crowd roar with delight as Harrison take swing Harrison chuckles in response and holds up the jug. That's sure hit the spot. Just then someone the crown catches. Harrison's is old man in the military uniform Harrison calls out you they're stunned. The old man's mouth falls wide open. I know oh you general you stood by my side and the hour battle. I cannot bear to see you at so great a distance now as the old man cowers and embarrassment Harrison calls now. Don't be shy. Now come on up and join me so the crowd can get a good look at. The old man makes his way to the stage. The crowd erupts in applause. Tell the people your name and rank sir. The old man calls out General James Hedges General Hedges. You've been a friend to me and to this country. Thank you for for your service and your support. Harrison turns to the crowd. Let's hear it for general hedges hero of Eighteen. Twelve at Fort Migs General William Henry Harrison delivered the first campaign in speech by candidate in American history. He spoke to the crowd for over two hours. He recounted his service in the war attack the Democratic Party mocking their insatiable double hunger for power making a nearly rault metaphor Harrison said. If the ladies whom I see around me were near enough to hear me and of sufficient age to give an experimental answer they would tell you that no lover is ever satisfied with the first mile of his mistress Harrison. was suggesting that the Democrats would want more of their mistress. Power and painted painted van Buren as a tyrant a dishonest man who would never abide by the laws of the Constitution. But at Fort Migs Harrison was the one bending the truth the old man and the crowd general hedges was a plant the Jug of cider to was placed in the crowd by the Harrison campaign. It was all staged political theater though. Oh Harrison had not chosen his carefully crafted image on the first political campaign tour in American history. He happily played his part Unlike the Democrats the whigs did not adopt a party platform in eighteen forty. In fact they went to great lengths to avoid controversial issues like slavery in the banks instead. Wigs leaned into the log cabin image and focused on appealing to the hearts of the masses. WIGS launched a series of partisan newspapers. I including a New York. Publication titled The log cabin as Harrison traveled the country making speeches and getting up support wigs handed. Outsider launched parades built log cabins to serve as Harrison campaign headquarters. The whigs also used their partisan papers and campaign machinery to cast Harrison as the hero of the common man and Van Buren as an elite aristocrat out of touch with the people but in September eighteen forty. The Democrats fought back in the press and Pro Democrat. Paper of the extra globe. Job Ran an article with a curious headline. Where does the money come from the extra globe charged that the whigs were buying influence to change the outcome of the election? The were no laws related to campaign finance eighteen forty and the notion of money influencing politics was very new still. The Democrats demanded answers the extra. The Globe wrote the log. Cabins would not have been erected the carousels and drunken revels would cease. The tippecanoe songs would lose their music if there was no money. Raised to pay for them. mm-hmm for Democrats this dark money to use a modern term was further proof. That Harrison was not the party of the common man. He was a tool of the wealthy elite And indeed in the eighteen forty contests money flowed into the Harrison campaign in unprecedented ways. Merchants and business people in the northeast gave Harrison's campaign thousands thousands of dollars one New York businessman all but paid for the log cabin newspaper in New York. Another business owner in Massachusetts gave the Harrison campaign. Five thousand dollars over one hundred thousand in today's money but perhaps the most generous giver was Nicholas. biddle the last president of the Second Bank of the United States In late September eighteen forty forty thousand New York wigs merchants business professionals and traders gathered at the Corner Wall Street and William Street for massive political rally. Their main concern was a plan that had been passed by the democratic controlled Congress in July of eighteen. Forty the plan. Push by Van Buren call for an independent national treasury a threat to biddle second bank and to the current financial system wig leaders addressed the crowd and attack Van Buren inaction in response to the panic of eighteen. Thirty seven in wake of the panic. Van Buren had been reluctant to get the federal government's involved. He believed the federal government. Government did not have constitutional authority to do so the whigs disagreed at the September rally. The whigs call for federal intervention. Defending the government's right to regulate the money supply. One Speaker was Massachusetts Senator Daniel Webster a prominent whig who like Harrison had made a strong showing in the election of eighteen. Thirty six webster spoke for nearly three hours. He demanded adjust stable. Financial System. Made up of paper money specie and Credit Webster Bello to the crowd what we need is currency which shall be equally acceptable in the Gulf of Mexico the Valley of the Mississippi on the Canada frontier on the Atlantic Ocean and in every every town village and hamlet of our extended land at the same time less than a block away New York Democrats held their political rally. The turnout was less impressive. Impressive but their message was big and bold. The rich and powerful wigs were mixing money with politics. They were trying to buy the presidential election and they were using government resources to do it just weeks before their rally in New York. The Pro Democrat. Extra Globe had attacked the wigs for abusing postal system writing the quantity entity of trash which has passed through the post office. Here under the frank of members of Congress is truly incredible the extra globe claim that in the summer of eighteen. Forty over the two hundred bushels of mail a day poured out of Washington. They went on eight tenths of this massive trash with which the males have grown during nearly eight months has has proceeded from the WHIG members of Congress. Law Allowed Congressman to send information to their constituents free of charge. The whigs took full advantage of this sending countless pro Harrison letters and pamphlets from their campaign headquarters in Washington City Hall whether it was corrupt or not. The Harrison campaign was organized sized while the Whig Congressman launched their mailing campaign from Washington. The party created a hierarchy of committees and subcommittees in nearly every state county city and district across the country the whigs created what was arguably the first voter database a comprehensive list of every eligible voter in every district. The machine was so finely the tuned that a newspaper article in September eighteen forty one democratic congressman commented that the whigs were planning to bring to the polls every man they can induce by argument argument. Or money blandishments or threats liquor or lies to vote the whig ticket in October of eighteen. Forty the extra globe double down with an article titled the Government For Sale The extra globe leveled serious charges of corruption. At the whigs money the article explained had paid for the cabins the parades the conventions the rallies and most importantly the people the erection of log cabins like the barracks of an army. Amy were to afford quarters for the vicious depraved debauched with liquor and stimulated with lying and corrupted with money with this corruption fund hundreds of agents have been employed and paid large sums to traverse the country to distribute pamphlets and speeches filled with the most scandalous falsehoods according to the Democrats the whigs were doling out millions of dollars. And they weren't doing it. Out of the goodness of their hearts as the extra globe explained it is the hope of making more money that induces the gambling merchants and capitalists to bleed so freely to supply this corruption fund. They consider it a profitable investment. But the truth is both parties were guilty of using money and the government to influence the outcome of the election historian Ronald Shaffer points out in his book. The carnival campaign. That van Buren had plenty of federal help to according to Schafer. The Pro van Buren Washington Globe. Newspaper had an annual government contract worth sixty thousand dollars a year the equivalent of nearly one point four a million in today's money and the improper use of campaign. Money wasn't the only dirty trick you lies by both political parties. Eighteen forty as the extra globe wrote in October. Over of that year it is by the Agency of money that they charter steamboats and pay the expenses of transporting the vagabonds from state to state to give fraudulent and illegal votes. It was in the election of eighteen. Forty four perhaps the first time in American history that voter fraud and voter suppression became a central issue in the political campaign. Both parties played apart and both sides accused the other of being the worst offender on election day in Illinois when a democratic operative stood at the polls to intimidate wig voters. One presidential elector rising political star took matters into his own hands disgusted with dirty tricks. Abraham Lincoln old up his sleeves they literally ran to the polls to fight back It's election day. Eighteen forty in Springfield Illinois Coles or packed with voters streets littered with citizens turning out to vote in Harrison County. Eleanor presidential elector. Abraham Lincoln sprints through the crowded streets. He's just heard a troubling rumor. Contractor named Mr Radford Democratic Graddick operative has taken possession of polling center in town as Lincoln rounds the corner at full sprint. He sees Ranford whispering into the ear of a voter who stand manton line. Radford looks menacing and the voter looks afraid from across the way Lincoln calls out Mr Radford Lincoln may I have a word Sir certainly Lincoln in Radford meet face to face in the street outside the polling centre unlike Lincoln Radford isn't alone flanking his rear is a small gang of holies musclemen who've come to the poll for one reason to intimidate voters with a smile Radford asks have have you come to cast a vote for yourself Mr Lincoln. I've come to protect the integrity of this election. That a fact I'd like you and your friends to leave this place without delay. It's a Free Country Mr Lincoln. Perhaps you've forgotten that yes free country with free elections. Perhaps you've forgotten. I will ask you one more time. Will you and your men retire from this place. And why should we you. Wigs were as corrupt as any man in Christendom. Lincoln takes a confrontational step towards Ranford. The two men are face to face inches. which is a part this is Illinois Radford? If you continue running off at the mouth you'll spoil emplo if you live much. Radford sizes up Lincoln can tell from the look on Lincoln's face and his firmly clenched fists. And he is fully prepared to go to blows after a tense moment. Radford stands down pats Lincoln on the shoulder and turns back to his von Boys. I believe we've done enough good for one day. Best of luck Mr Franken. After Radford and the bullies left the polls Lincoln was disappointed. He had been hoping hoping for a fight as he later told a friend he wanted to provoke Radford knock him down and leave him kicking. Violence was narrowly avoided but the integrity of the polling. Bowling Center was preserved. Thanks to the future. American president bearing the nickname on estate but the dirty tricks were contained to a single polling center in Springfield Illinois. Annoy and honest. Abe was a mere presidential elector not yet a man of national consequence. Despite Lincoln's best efforts on the local level voter fraud and suppression depression were rampant. All across the country and both political parties were to play in the eighteen forty forty election. Democrats and whigs publicly decried dubious electioneering tactics like ballot stuffing illegal voters and ballot theft. The hangwringing was more within a little hypocritical. Considering both parties were guilty of the exact same dirty tricks both parties use preprinted ballots both parties stuff ballot boxes and both parties dispatch batch pull bullies to scare away the opposition and nowhere was the chicanery. More present and Martin Van Buren Home State of New York in the fall of eighteen. Forty the pro Democrat paper. The rough you're in Albany New York wrote we understand that a wig committee has been sent prowling around our city enquiring the politics of every working man man with the intention of throwing every Democrat out of employment and in early October of eighteen forty. The extra globe urged his readers. Wherever the WIG officers have control of the ballot-box let them be watched day and night with unceasing vigilance in late October? The same paper reported that the wigs were engaged in rampant voter fraud and Harrison friendly tippecanoe. tippecanoe county in Indiana. According to the extra globe wigs had place votes for large masses of names not known as citizens of the county the same day the extra extra globe warned readers of the most deliberate and astounding fraud. That has ever come to light in this country. The story accused wings of dispatching gangs of bullies to multiple states including in New York in order to vote illegally and multiple polls and wreak havoc along the way the wigs made similar accusations not long after the extra globe story. The Pro Whig Harrisburg Chronicle Pennsylvania. Reported that a local whig newspaper man was attacked by a gang of Paul bullies. who knocked him down jumped upon him and cut his face the most horrible manner the flash was cut nearly off both sides of his face and his left cheek and jawbones nearly bear a while? Partisan war was being waged in the press presidential incumbent. Martin van Buren was lying in. Wait the little magician. As he was often called had a surprise in store and in October eighteen forty democratic prosecutors in New York announced a string of indictments against powerful whig politicians. The Democrat prosecutors accused these wigs. Many of whom were principals in the Harrison campaign of election fraud in the eighteen thirty eight midterms in response to the scandal. The Pro van Buren Karen Albany Rough. Hewer wrote the headline sound the alarm. Your liberties are endanger. The charges centered around efforts. Made by New York wigs to put William H seward. seward Abraham Lincoln's future secretary of state in the New York governor's mansion at the heart of the scandal was a contractor named James B. Glint worth wigs. In New York had paid glint where thousands of dollars to lay waterpipes but glint worth and his crew also provided another valuable service votes Glenn Worth denied the accusation that that he had sent his crew to illegally vote in New York in exchange for city contracts. The evidence was significant enough. The governor seward fired Glenn Worth to save face but not significant enough to prove the charges. The indictment when nowhere van Buren new these indictments were coming long before the election of eighteen. Forty but if he was hoping for what modern politicos call an October surprise. The Glenn Worth Scandal New York did not have the desired effect so he returned to traditional campaigning. But unlike William Henry Harrison Martin Van buren abided by precedent and did not campaign openly. You work behind the scenes and largely left his reelection efforts in the hands of his supporters. There's an advocates in Washington and across the country in the end it would cost him the election of eighteen forty saw unprecedented voter turnout. More than eighty percent of eligible voters over two million people turned out to vote from October thirtieth to December second and eighteen forty in the end. Despite the best efforts Van Buren supporters. The American people voted their pocketbooks. The depression resulting from the panic of eighteen thirty thirty seven. Hurt van Buren more than anything else. Perhaps even more than the whigs crafty political campaign Harrison won seventeen states van Buren. Only seven Van Buren had done well in the south especially in Virginia but he had underperformed in the north he even lost his home state of New York. Harrison's electoral college victory was a landslide. He won two hundred thirty. Four votes. To Van Buren sixty but the popular vote told a different story out of roughly two point. Four million votes cast I Harrison won by a margin of only one hundred fifty thousand still the whigs swept the election capturing control of both the House and the Senate. The whigs dominated innate primarily by beating the Democrats at their own game a game they played so well in promoting president. Andrew Jackson as the Pro van buren paper the Democratic Review. You noted after the election we have taught them how to conquer us. But where Andrew Jackson served for eight years in the White House. The tenure of William Henry Harrison would be brief reef. He was inaugurated on March fourth. Eighteen forty one. In the frigid Winter Harrison took the oath of office in front of the East Portico. He didn't wear a coat to shield him from the punishing cold. He talked for over two hours. The longest inaugural address in American history and not long after he fell ill with pneumonia. Many many of Harrison's contemporaries and indeed many historians attributed his illness to the speech but the culprit was more likely tainted water from Washington's primitive sewage system regardless of the cause on April fourth eighteen. Forty one President William Henry Harrison America's ninth president succumbed to his illness and passed away. You've been office for exactly one month. The shortest presidency in American history two days later Vice President Tyler took the oath of office making him the first vice president in. US history to succeed. The President Tyler had been added to the Harrison ticket to provide geographical balance shore up support in the south but in the most basic sense sensed tyler was not a wig wigs united around the principle that Congress not the president should hold the reins of power in American government. Like most Virginians John Tyler color was suspicious of federal power at whose core he was a states rights. Man for Tyler of the individual states should decide their own political destiny not the president and not Congress. Congress President Tyler would fight members of his own party in Congress over controversial issues like federal improvements and the Second Bank of the United States he would become so estranged from the wings that they would abandon him in the election of eighteen forty four choosing instead to run one of the whigs most reliable and popular names Kentucky Senator Henry. Clay Though van Buren loss in eighteen. Forty has signaled that the age of Jackson was nearly over in eighteen forty four old hickory. Legacy would be on the ballot one last time. Martin van Buren would again see his party's nomination but in order to take back. The White House Van Buren. Would I have to get the best of another Jackson. Protege Tennessee's James Capel in eighteen forty. Four Paulk and Van Buren would fight for control of the Democratic Party winner. WOULD FACE OFF AGAINST WADE candidate Henry clay away in a showdown over one of the most controversial political issues of the eighteen forties. Westward expansion at the center of that debate would be a newly formed republic that that had wanted independence from Mexico. In eighteen. Thirty six Texas would define the election of eighteen forty four and bring to the forefront of national politics another controversial virtual issue that threatened to rip the country apart slavery on the next episode of Ricki game the election of eighteen forty four in the wake of president. Harrison's death John Tyler fights to defend his right to the presidency. His independence cost him standing with his party and leaves the door open for another way it to steal the nomination Senator Henry Clay in the eighteen forty four contest. Klay stands toe to toe with a rising political star from Tennessee. James K polk. Don't miss a single week of our march from seventeen eighty nine to twenty twenty. Hit the subscribe button on your podcast APP now. This show is supported by you. Our listeners please give us a rating. Leave a review but the single best way to help the show grow is to tell others share with your friends and family and find us on social media at wicked game pod. 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"Will almost invisible to myself and my community. He has no public wealth at his disposal. He administers no regulatory departments. He cannot tax US send our children into foreign wars pass out welfare to the rich or poor appoint judges to take away our rights to self government control a central bank that inflates the money supply and brings on the business cycle or change the laws Willy Nilly according to the special interests he likes or seeks to punish likewise elections ends an election campaigns. We're not the beyond end all of American liberty and again Lou Rockwell says for those who do not vote and do not care about politics in the old view their liberty is secure they have no access to special rights yet their rights to person property and self-government in our never in doubt for that reason for all practical purposes they can forget about the president and for that matter the rest of the federal government might as well not exist people do not pay direct taxes to it. It doesn't tell them how to conduct their lives. It doesn't send them to foreign wars regulate violate their schools pay their retirement much less employ them to spy on their fellow citizens. The government is almost invisible. Well Alexis de Tocqueville who was the nineteenth centuries most perceptive foreign observer of the United States observed in the eighteen thirties. He's in some countries power exists which though it is in a degree foreign to the social body directs it enforces it to pursue a certain track in others the ruling forces divided being partly within and partly without the ranks of the people but nothing of the kind is to be seen in the United States their society governs itself for itself. The president has but little power little wealth and little glory to share among his friends and his influence in the state is too small for for the success or ruin of a faction to depend upon his elevation to power well. It doesn't sound like the presidency today needless to say but that was how the presidency was viewed in those days early nineteenth century Bob Higgs one of the great economic historians Dorian. We have living said this. The people who ratify the original constitution never intended the presidency to be a powerful office spawning quote great men article two sections two to four which enumerate the powers hours of the president comprise but four paragraphs most of which deal with appointments and minor duties well the twentieth century. This minor position was transformed into a larger than life office. WHO's occupant is expected to Exude Vision Vision leadership and greatness well this this view of the president is what we would expect to hear and Mussolini's Italy or in any fascist regime where the leader capital is expected to exert bold leadership on behalf half of the people now? You may consider this to be a cheap shot but I've mentioned in this context that to Adolf Hitler once told The New York Times correspondent I have sympathy for Mr Franklin Roosevelt because he marches straight toward his objectives over Congress lobbies lobbies and bureaucracy Hitler later described himself as the only European leader who expressed quote understanding of the methods and motives of President Roosevelt Unquote the one idea that is absolutely anathema to all such regimes is the society mighty is capable of running its own affairs without the paternal custodianship of a great leader and his vision now the historians who were consulted in the rankings have presidential rankings. Tell us which presidents were supposed to like. DOC conceive of the president is far seeing demi-god rather than a humble executor of the laws now Theodore Roosevelt is a president. I've written very negatively about in the past. He's very very popular among great many Americans on left enwright but I've been very critical of him because I believe he basically was almost single handedly responsible for putting together this new kind of presidency where people are talked to have a kind of superstitious reverence for the occupant of the the presidency and there he is at number four in C. Span's two thousand poll historians that poll ranked the president's on their quote vision on quote setting an agenda other categories included public persuasion Asian crisis management economic management moral authority international relations administrative skills pursued equal justice for all so on and on while there's nothing there there's no ranking on how faithful was he too the constitution itution or or traditional American principles and this is the main problem with these polls they take for granted that there's some objective scientific standard for determining how great a president is but of course there isn't to evaluate whether the president is any good or not you have to have a standard of measurement philosophical moral economic and constitutional prisons what constitutes good economic management a Keynesian economist will say one thing and a free market economists say another how can you in a non-ideological way rank the president's on those grounds or what does equal justice for all me well that phrase has changed over time under Andrew Jackson Gender Jackson's philosophy of government. We're talking eighteen thirties now was called Jacksonian democracy and he used the phrase equal rights but with Jackson meant by equal rights was that nobody gets anything from the government. We're equal in the sense that nobody no big business. No lobbyists. Nobody is able to use news the coercive arm of the state to exploit his fellow man. That's the sense in which were equal. Nobody's getting any special privilege whereas today when the phrase equal rights is used nearly always refers to some kind of grant of special privilege so how can it be a constant category free for evaluating the president's the meaning changes over time now Jeff Humble. WHO's a professor on the West Coast has argued that from the point of view of Libertarians of many of whom occupied this very building the greatest president in American history history was actually Martin van Buren well some? I'm sure some people perhaps not denault Martin van Buren was the president but elected in eighteen thirty six van Buren had been vice president for a term under a little over return under Andrew Jackson. Another candidate has been proposed the greatest president from a libertarian point of view. I've heard William Henry Harrison only because he died a month after he got an office. We didn't have a chance to do anything bad so therefore he's the greatest but Martin van Buren has been proposed and Hummel's argument is that Van Buren was was was the best president because he he resolutely supported the free market and the Constitution at a time when every incentive existed for him to do otherwise <hes> his his his banking policies introduced what what is arguably the greatest banking system monetary system the United States has ever had he also managed to avoid not one to unnecessary wars one with Mexico in one with Britain which is the fact that particular significance when we recall what the founders often said about war and it's tendency to undermine free societies now where does poor van Buren wind up in the presidential polls well he lacked vision Asian I suppose but he kept the country at peace and was resolutely committed to the constitution. Come what may in one thousand nine hundred eighty was number fifteen out of twenty nine presidents nineteen sixty two. He was seventeen out of thirty one and in two thousand five he was twenty seven seven out of forty-one Arthur Schlesinger junior complained that van buren lacked executive energy another historian described Van Buren his inaugural address as quote essentially a charter for inaction by hardly need to point out to you but those are bad things to the official historians who rank our presidents for us now the consistently low rankings of presidents like ulysses grant or President We discussed today Warren harding are due in part to the corruption associated with their administrations rations now to a certain degree. That's all well and good but what is the Teapot Dome Scandal compared to Woodrow Wilson's catastrophic decision in the face of strong popular opposition to involve the United States in World War One a horrific perfect conflict at the very least Wilson's decision it has been argued pave the way for the ultra-nationalistic policies of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis who protested punitive Versailles treaty that the allies would never have been in a position to impose without the American Assistance Wilson consistently ranked among America's best presidents forget the foreign policy disasters. He was responsible for the historians hold seem to be saying and forget the American deaths as decisions caused the man had vision well this brings us to the twenties and harding and coolidge because what will find is although they did do more domestically than people think realize in terms of building up government the fact is that they were by twentieth century standards relatively inactive and they're therefore we're supposed to hate them and rank of low but again. That's an ideological judgment okay. If you want to decide which are the best presidents you have to decide that on the basis of your own views and what these people did when they were in office and whether or not they you're listening to hurtling newsfeed Radio Network Live twenty four seven heartland newsfeed dot COM U._S._A.. Radio News News with Tim Burke hours after Iran denied that the U._s. down one of its drones in the State of Hormuz Iranian state TV now says Tehran has seized a British flagship. 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One matches all my Jon. Moxley is the man right now. He is on fire. I have heard that I just got a text. Actually you told me about it before we started but I got a text just a moment ago. Oh I cannot tell you. This person says how much I loved it Moxley versus Ishii so we'll talk about that when we come back from the break if you want to give skull here today phone lines are open eight four four four eleven five four eleven is the phone number that is toll free free eight four four four eleven five four eleven. You can send your text messages to four to five seven eight zero seven five six six. You know the rule. If you're going to call you must attempt to make this show better not worse. I don't need another day like I did a couple of weeks ago when I freaked out and shut the phones down for a couple of days so don't be that person everybody back in just a moment kick it off. Wrestling Observer live in in my house. The house going on needs a tunnel work. 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Even though everybody knows this is the one hour don't text me unless you're texting me about the show here my buddy asking about an earthquake today. What does this have to do with anything but there is an earthquake everybody in Earth shattering quake of news that we're about to announce here on this show Jim Valley joining us here and we're happy to announce Jim a season radio professional year? He's just been itching to do more here at wrestling observer DOT COM at so beginning tomorrow here on on Sports byline Jim Valley will be hosting wrestling observer live live every Saturday you know for the longest time you your intro you talk about seven days a week. Yes and now wrestling observer live. We'll be live seven days a week. That's right. We normally had a replay on the Saturday morning at ten A._M.. But now the replay will no longer be a replay. Jim will be here. Live live Saturdays a ten A._M.. On the West Coast was once on the East Coast United States Yep and that will also include by the way if you are a listener on Sirius Satellite Radio Saturday Sirius Satellite Radio Day as his Sunday so you're GonNa get a chance to hear Jim talk about pro wrestling and maybe a little mixed martial arts. I don't even know he could have guests if you want to. You can do whatever you want for that our and you'll be asleep so I will mostly be asleep. Yes I could do pretty much whatever I want to. Yes Friday's Fridays can be difficult but Saturday mornings. Usually I sleep in a little bit but he's going to be here. Civil Plug that throughout the day and maybe even Fridays in studio I here is that right. That's what they're telling me man. I'm always lesson almost all of this stuff but now you all know as well so I wanna read some of these text messages because I'm sure you'll be talking about this tomorrow Saturday ten A._M.. Pacific One Eastern Sports byline this person you're Hamish Moxley versus. She was out out of this world amazing mocks leaving that place was honestly the best thing that he has ever done. This person here. I anticipated mocks Lena. She going at it for days. Watch the match live today and it was worth the weight. I haven't seen this yet. Apparently I'm in the minority but tell me about this match so last night so who's also on the wrestling observer site he and I do a chauffeur's subscribers called Pacific Rim and for those who don't know Fumi Dave Dave Meltzer are essentially the same <hes> different side of the same coin. They're both the plugged in person <hes> Dave in the United States and certainly as other Japan connections but some people say that foaming is the Dave Meltzer of Japan so foaming as band at Cork and hall for these last g ones in Tokyo well and we did a show talking about the night before but this morning I wake up and I get a message from Fumi. Oh my gosh moxley versus. He she is amazing so I watched this morning and he could not be more right Moxley so motivated right now you can tell that he is wrestling with determination and more importantly a passion <hes>. I don't have to tell you. There's been a lot of people who have left W._W._e.. And they say watch me now. Look what I'm going to do now that the cuffs are off and a couple of months you never hear the begin or they're working in a you know a small town in Iowa Kentucky or something but Moxley is so fired up and he and his she just the exchange blows and punches and there was this one exchange where Moxley is just laying these forearms and he's got him in like like a half caller and elbow and the other forearm he's just laying in to a she and she is just like you know. Bring it bring it and Moxley gives him like four or five elbows and she just spits in his face and Moxley lays him in again and and then a she just decks Moxley with a huge elbow in return and Moxley goes down. I mean what a commitment that Moxley sold so much for that after a she stood there but they went back and forth they brawled all over Cork. Can they did the spot where they get thrown into the metal exit sign just such a such an impassioned performance so much emotion for Moxley in the whole time Kevin Kelly he's talking about how for the two years this man has been so frustrated and you're seeing all of these frustrations now come to the surface and then when it was all done <hes> it took to death writers but Moxley Pinta she e spoiler alert and the the best part was the after-match Promo were Moxley's just got all of this confidence and all of this energy in just this pent-up excitement and he talks about how like kind of like Kevin Kelly set for two years people telling him what to do and nobody tells him what to do anymore and he's showing everyone that he knew best and he's going to you know and he's really grateful to the fans for making him part of the <HES> The new Japan family and he's going to go on and he's GonNa win the G. One and it was incredible and we got the report here on the front page wrestling observer dot com and this from Ethan Renner has been watching all of these shows us and he says I don't know if this was the best match of the tournament so far but this is currently my favorite yeah I think back to observe radio on Wednesday when Dave was previewing the show and I think the line that he used was why did he sailing. We're GONNA find out how good Moxley is or or something like that because like it's impossible for she'd have a bad match and I guess he brought it so I'll have to put this one on my list of matches to watch the other one on my list is the Bucci match with will Osprey. How was that that's great? Everybody alive afterwards yeah. That's great you know because of both of them especially Osprey recently have kind of been injury prone thrown in the past it I think that adds to the drama and the fact that they both worked over each others injured areas and there was that was very good to you can't take anything away from that but I think right now the spotlight spotlight belongs to to Moxley and it really you know they didn't do like a lot of pretty moves but who wants pretty moves in Jon Moxley match or does she match exactly but I guess what it reinforced to me is how how much wrestling is passion and how much of wrestling the best wrestling and the best matches while the moves can be crisp or not the best matches are the emotional ones where they were they drag out emotion in the combatants patents and they bring out the emotion the crowd and that's what this match did. This person ear says the quote. Nobody tells me what I'm capable of Moxie said this after his match with a she today as Jim just said motivated motivated Moxley is the best well listen. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I was very critical of a lot of Dean Ambrose matches and W._W._e.. Like ever since honest to God never seen anything like this. He won the title will and like his match-quality went off a cliff and it was like he was wrestling underwater and it was just slow motion and it was just bizarre. I never seen anything like it before like normally people win the title and then they're super-motivated but it was like after that Ah Wrestlemainia where he had that match with Brock and brock even nothing squashed him even after winning the title after that it was like he just had nothing and I was like what is going on with this guy like everybody's talking about this guy could be like the next Steve Austin and you know when people talked about a shield it was like you know the the real star. The Shield is going to be Dean Ambrose and I just didn't see it and I didn't know what was going on and you know you listen to podcasts and here really talk about that like is entering work but it just it seems to me that once he mentally checked out he mentally checked out of doing matches to and I guess maybe the way they structured the matches. He just didn't care but ever since he left his match quality has been as been the JON Moxley since leaving that everybody said that he was going to be when he was endeavour to me and he wasn't because it was deputy me and I haven't seen that match but I just watched annex t last night and annex t last night there was the Apollo crews match with Kushida and you watch Apollo crews on Ron smackdown today the dude. It's just nothing they don't do anything with the guy they don't give an opportunity to anything he had this match with Kushida. This match was great it was it was the Apollo crews that was Apollo blue cruise before he went to the main roster. I haven't seen one Apollo crews match like this since he was in annex t last time it is depressing to see what happens to these guys on the main roster. We're GONNA do break. We'll take your phone calls text messages ages and more after the break wrestling it has been said that everyone has a book in them but you have the time or the ability to write your book. Maybe you picked up some skills or headlight experience that you WanNa pass on in the form of a book to help others. Maybe you WANNA leave autobiography for your family or maybe you built a successful business and you want to share your story at Dorrance Publishing Company. We have professional writers who can help turn your book idea into a Finnish manuscript quickly and affordably a dorrance ghostwriter can provide as much or as little help as you need to complete your book. 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That's eight hundred five eight four order twenty-five nineteen you're listening to wrestling observer live whip Brian Alvarez and Mike Semper v on the sports byline broadcasting that work back in the show right over is year wrestling observer live. Jim Valley is joining us in studio here today for those you had video o'dowd affordable you online at dot com going to give us a call eight four four four eleven five four eleven phone number and the text message line four to five seven eight zero seven five six. I like to politely request whether it be text messages twitter. Everyone quit sending me scary videos of Nick Gage. I can't handle anymore these star blocking people it is myself and filthy. Tom lawler against Thomas Sentelle Intel N. Nikki July twenty eighth for beyond wrestling the premier ballroom the Fox Tower foxwoods resort and casino beyond wrestling online dot com is the place to go if you'd like to grab tickets for that show it's GonNa be. It's going to be a time everybody. It's GonNa be a time and hopefully you can you can make it out there. I'd sure like some support at the show. Obviously I'M GONNA FILTHY TOM and my corner but like the more the Merrier et is July twenty eighth premier ballroom the foxwoods resort and casino beyond wrestling online dot com grab your ticket now. John Morrison is going to be on the show lots of big stars. The Rock Enroll Express is going to be on the show. It's going to be a great time so make sure you check that out. Are you going to be able to in the same areas the rock and roll express after the the match you guys had before is their heat there man i. I don't know I got enough problems. I think about that for one second well yes. I did note here that I retweeted your deal starting tomorrow. Rusting Observer Live live on Saturday. Jim Valley could be joining the program. Every Saturday live ten A._M.. Pacific One eastern starting tomorrow so you want to check it out right here on sports byline an Sirius satellite radio now. I don't think I get the text messages. Do I know okay the love the phone number set up for you and we can give everybody if you've got an email address my twitter you can follow me on Ed Jim Valley tweet questions there and interact on twitter. Why don't we do that to start all right at Jim Valley on twitter everybody? Hey let's go to the phones. You're on the air. What's going on guys? <hes> just wanted to ask <hes> so if the agents are in the problem in Maine Roster and what do you think is as far as the matches. Do you think it's really been that tells them all right. You guys have to move slowly bump like like it's a little elm. Thankfully I mean who said is. It's not the agents problem. Well I mean called like wait <hes> way before you were kind of defending like saying no that they what they're doing well. I mean he'll let me explain the St Okay I'll explain on you my thoughts on this so as far as it goes in terms of aging in W. E.. So W E has a certain style of entering action and all of the agents know that that's the style of in ring action and so it's not like it's not like the agents are out there and if left to their own devices like you know they'd have to guys work g one style match or they'd have these guys do a death match with with some tax acce. The agents have zero control over that the agents are there to help you structure match. The way that w e wants a match structured and there's certain moves you cannot do there are certain things that they want in every match like back in the old days. It was the dive that came right before the commercial break so in some ways the agents hands are tied like they have to put together a match the way the W.. E. Wants to put a match together. That's it now yes sometimes I watch these matches and am baffled as to as to what's been put together but you know there are requirements so you know I I don't know if I should blame the agent or if I should blame Vince McMahon and for that twenty four minute women's for way on Monday I mean there's a lot of blame to go around all over the place I mean it's possible that Vincit Iowa twenty four minutes out of this match and then some agent head to put it together and decided that it. I don't know whatever they decided. They'll match was a complete disaster but you know there's there's a lot of blame to go round about a lot of things but at the same time you know there are a lot of people that work their that their hands are tied. They have to do things things the way the W._b.. Wants things done. That's it over. You remember that Jon Moxley interview that he did right after he left W._W._e.. Where he talked about at times he felt like Dean Ambrose? The character was like a prop comic sure and and again he's you know he didn't WanNa follow those marching orders because he felt a different passion. Obviously he likes his wrestling it a more serious vein more believable vein and oftentimes the W._W._e.. Style Gal is repetitive. It's redundant and you always have that Vince McMahon's sense of humor that seems to pop up pretty frequently and he was obviously frustrated by that as well it thing I'll give you an example for the agents like sometimes there will be a man from control throughout two random people as you say Samoa Joe in Ramos Cheerio Okay so that was a match where what they wanted was <hes>. Joe's going to beat Ramos cheerio real quickly okay or whatever I'm throwing a match out. There Joe goes out there. They're like you got one minute. So major puts together. They match so sometimes an agent is told something like we want ray to pin joe but we want to make sure that Joe is protected and so now the agent has to come up with something where raise GonNa get the pin but it's going to be like a fluke or there's going to be this and then Joe's going to get a flash pin or whatever and these are the requirements that they have and they've got to come up with ideas and sometimes they come up with good ideas. Sometimes they come up with bad ideas. Sometimes they come up with a bad idea because Vince wants something like there's it's no way that you can come up with a good idea for having this person get beat but also protect the other person so our protect that guy. It's just complicated. People do the best they can but I have to yell somebody. Usually it's Vince sometimes it's not it's going to the phones. You're on the air. What's up? It's going to the phones. You're on the air. What's going on heavy question about Daniel Bryan? Do you think it's it'd be like Rick Flora Gimmick with the square on the line reach match because that was a pretty memorable retiring retiring Ryan so why would he do that. I could get like winning streak for like two years or three year to year winning streak inevitably well. He's not wrestled limited schedule because of his <hes> Jim of you Matt Ryan Yet. I have okay. I'm looking forward to for him to be my first caller to Ryan. Are you aware that you can call now on Saturdays Live for the Gym Valley before he's pretty pleasant to deal with. Eh that what you're saying Vini Anyway so so jim is more pleasant than Mike. Is that what you're saying. Where do I rank ranked the three of us in terms of WHO's the most pleasant to deal with well well Mike Summit that side after last call year in the middle gyms probably the friend list out of wow look at you? Jim Gyms got gyms good cop. I'll play bad cop Ryan. I'm hanging up on you. I'm like the Doris Day or the Ned. Flanders of the Observer live show. Daniel Bryan is interview his never hinted that he's going to be retiring. He said that there's going to be a change that he estimate here's another one he said there's a place he's never gone before. He's gone into retirement so technically. That's not at a place that he's never been before. I don't know what Daniel Bryan is going to do but we'll find out here in a few weeks josie from Canada fantastic super cool to add another live show to the lineup another one very excited to hear you on Saturday mornings here on sports byline that'll be we got a show coming up everybody. It is smack Ville. You'll never guess where this is taking place from. It's not whoville the Bridgestone Arena Nashville Tennessee Saturday July twenty seven thirty. We'll bearing the network. They've confirmed two matches any musical performance by Elias. I'm sure that will go off without a hitch. Smack Ville sounds like a vice land documentary. It does some sort of heroin epidemic smack fell Kofi Kingston Versus Samoa Joe and delves ziglar in a triple thread match and we also have a rematch of the international title match from Extreme Rules Fin beller versus Shinsegei Nakimora so it's a basically a house show on the network. It's coming up on July twenty seven th nine P._M.. Eastern. I don't think that Dave is GonNa Argue that this is a glorified house show because this is. I'm not even sure it's glorified. This is a house show Jio on the W._W._e.. Why work I why are they doing this? I don't know is this dad more content. Is this an experiment well. I mean they always want add more live content because the stuff that people watch the most on the w network is the live content like people like me. I'm sure people like you. We like watching the stuff in the archives but the the archived stuff is is rarely watched by anybody. It's it's the live pay review events. It's the takeovers annex t is watched a lot but I guess the the live events and if you watch if you're watching the papers lately the paper of us aren't that much shorter but the Tacoma show show was much shorter for a pay per view and the show the extreme rules was I think three and a half hours long so they haven't been doing a lot of these six hour shows and so they've got the investors deal coming up where they've got to say that this many people watching and hours of the network well. Here's another thing that people can watch live a house shell and a live performance by allies. That's coming up here. On July twenty seventh also this Taly Blanchard has has joined a W as an exclusive advisor to Shawn Spears. I believe that's their version of the word manager. I think you can say manager need w but it's a multi show agreement and it's mostly a storyline press release so oh Tony Kahn quarter to sing Shawn Spears new advisor Tilly Blanchard a legendary retired wrestler in a canny tactician known worldwide for his vicious streak in a pension first chicanery. That's pretty good way to describe to leap Blanchard it together and aid w and this occurred at the end of the roads all else video the premiered a couple of days ago interviews Jim Ross and Shawn Spears. I told I was told very interesting so check it out and we'll be back in a boat with more observer live in the meantime Mike. Are you aware that sixty six percent of men lose their hair by the age of thirty five. If you do want to keep your here by the time you notice is starting to go. 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If you start texting Jim tomorrow during the show but once again today on this program as is always the case when we're here in the studio radio the phone number eight four four four eleven five four eleven text messages four to five seven eight zero seven five six six but tomorrow on Jim Valley show you'll be using these sports byline number which is one eight hundred eight seven eight the play and that's the only number eighty now. It's only number you need to know. Thank you for making idiot. You'll get a call screener tomorrow. Everybody it's not going to be like this show or he had just unscreened open lines. Let's go to them right now. You're on the air what's going on. Hey Boys Jersey. Jim congrats on the new <hes> when you get there that's first and foremost I hope everything <hes> those according to plan as we know Brian's always now does they. It did go according to plan today when the show started. What else is resting observer? We'll just hope that people can use the phones that being said <hes> right. I do have a question for you Jim as well <hes>. Do you see Fox when they do end up going to Fox getting involved the way that matches are structured. I know I highly doubt Fox one's twenty five minute women's match in the middle of their show <hes>. Maybe they do maybe they don't. I don't know obviously I can't see them getting. I definitely see them getting involved in the way the matches a structured do you see that at all happening with the agents and all that stuff was Fox thing listen we can. I WANNA match this way. I WANNA match that way. There's a certain style with W._W._e.. Maybe we can change his style. Making more interesting used to get all happening. Well Savan my friend. I've heard this all I can say about this okay. I've heard some rumors about things that Fox I would like okay. I don't know if the rumors are true or not. Obviously Fox's paying W._W._e.. A lot of money for smackdown and so I mean they they should have the right to make some suggestions but at the same time they're also paying for a product the W._w._e.. Has Been doing forever so I don't know how the contract is structured like like obviously W._w._e.. is going to be paying for their own production so like if Fox were paying for the production. Obviously they'd have more sane it 'cause. They're paying for the production. Just like a W. I mean <hes> T._N._T.. Is paying for A._W._S.. WSB production so of T._N._A.. Wants a camera here or they wanNA camera there or if they want this. I mean they're gonNA. They're going to call the shots on the production W._W._e.. Is is paying for their own production for this Fox show so they're we're GONNA call. The shots should both sides kind of work together to make the other happy yeah of course they should but I don't know I don't know what that's going to entail. I expect that it's going to be at first a very Saturday night. Saturday nights main event style L. Production and maybe mixed in you know you see the N._f._l.. On Fox with a lot of graphics and a lot of replays and things I expect it to be as far as production values W._W._e.. Cranked up to eleven. I think you know you talked talked about yesterday. The introductory shows <hes> show that Fox is going to be doing. I would expect a lot of introductory promos on the first show and almost like a reset or a reintroduce of so many people like if you go back and you watch the two thousand six Saturday nights main events after the heyday on the network you see triple h to a promo. My name is triple. H I'm the game and I do this and I think you're going to see a lot of exposition on the shelves goes in efforts to keep the Fox audience the network audience the casual fans that are may be going to be watching in hopes of catching those people yeah they do have the one hour special. They're going to be hearing about a week in advance and that's going the show where they introduce everybody to everybody is going to be no wrestling. It'll just be bunch of video packages bunch of interviews. It'll probably be in whatever studio they're gonNA do their studio showing but yes I have seen these these inevitably shows where it's very clear from the commentary that they're under the presumption that like a ton of New People are tuning in and if you're a longtime fan it's GonNa say it's infuriating but but it's funny like I always watch him and I think there ain't that many new people tuning in like understand that you have to do this but this is this is dumbed down to a major degree. Do you remember when Hulk Hogan lost the title on N._B._C. Andrea. Yes so that number thirty three three million people which sounds enormous looks impossible. It seems right but here's the thing is back in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight thirty three million people was like the seventieth most popular show of the week take that wasn't anywhere near close to the top twenty or top ten shows so in an era where you just had I dunno forty fifty channels whatever it was twenty channels whatever it was back then in the eighties. Oh man probably yeah ladder less late eighties. Yeah Yeah this people with cable depending on where you live back then that philosophy didn't work in this era I. I don't know that it's GonNa work either. It's everything everything is totally different now and I mean one of the things you have to think about. Is it really meant a lot to be a network television. You know a decade twenty years ago because the cable channels had so few viewers like the the cable universe was significantly smaller than the network universe and today I mean it still network is still the biggest but it's no longer like by far the biggest biggest I mean the gap between your number one cable network and your bottom of the barrel network show free over the network show. I mean they're not that far apart. I mean the one thing about this foxtail uh-huh Fox it is it is a giant. It's the biggest platform that W E has in forever probably since back when they did those those any and even when you look back at like the N._B._C. shows I mean those were like you know. Main event was is midnight Saturday night live time slot this prime time on network but they have had primetime TV on network tv like a decade ago. You know they were on my network TV and they were on U._p._N.. U._P._N. and did not lead to a boom period in either case and Fox's bigger than both of those but I just don't feel like some analysts feel like man. They're going to go on Fox and primetime in. There's going to be a new boom period. I do not see that I don't see it either. I mean if you remember. I'd love to be wrong. My Child's College Fund would love if I were wrong. I would love another boom period. I just don't see it yeah. I would love a boom berry too because you know I'm starting to get in on that big fat observer money so I would love Oh man boom perio- your next child. Oh my gosh college fine. Oh my gosh. I'm just rolling but anyway I you know if you remember for years W._W._e.. Raw was on U._S._A.. Network and then when they flipped the Nashville network to the national network they that W._W._e.. Raw was the cornerstone uh of rebranding network and that didn't really work now that well yeah I. I just don't know like Fox. I've heard the people in W._W._e.. Louis that the thing that there's going to be a game changer they'll point out the same thing like Fox is going to promote and promote and promote and they're gonNA push it so hard and they're going to get behind it which listen they are okay. This is a fact they paid so much money for smackdown back down. They're gonNA put everything behind smackdown so I here's what I do believe okay. I believe the my child's making a lot of noise out there in the hall. I believe that the very first episode of smackdown on Fox this is GonNa do like the biggest w number in four ever okay forever. They're going to build this show up. They're going to try to get the Rock Steve Austin. I I mean they're gonNA try and get all of the biggest names they're gonNA make this into a red carpet type deal. It's going to be just the biggest day they're. They're gonNA throw everything that they got. There's going to be like a huge title match. I'm sure they're going to do everything for that. That show and I think the first show is GonNa do great but after that I don't know I watched the shows and you know the storytelling is not great. Storytelling is non-existent gets non-existent. The star making is non-existent like. I just don't know how they're going to hook new fans with the product that they've got today. I have no doubt that a lot of people are going to tune in early but can they keep those new people with the way that they booked television. I don't know I'm skeptical right now. I'm so sick of seeing a battle royal to decide a number one contender or a six-man six man's scramble or you know you win a three person match like you never tell the story of someone rising up through the ranks to challenge or when someone finally wins any championship there is never a narrative positive to talk about how that champion fended off challengers or rose to the occasion. It's just always like this person better now. This person has momentum now. They have the championship Shinsegei Nakimora was I don't even no worry was and then suddenly comes out of Nowhere Bang. He's the intercontinental chance because because sometimes well sometimes loud the Times things happen because if things that don't happen on T._v.. I think your theory is right. It's three in a row. It has to pick figures theory is right now. Here's another person very excited about your debut tomorrow or were flooded with them here Jim. That's awesome. I hope I ever listened tomorrow and calls in ten A._M.. On the West Coast One P._M.. On the East Coast now the one thing I'm going to say one of the thing about this smackdown debut. This is what I believe. I believe that the next three weeks are going to be a microcosm of the move to Fox because Monday. They're doing doing raw reunion and they're bringing back. Everybody and you know that this is going to be the highest rated raw in a long time okay so this is a microcosm of the smackdown on Fox debut. A bunch of people are going to tune in. They haven't been watching okay so if they book a hot angle and the story lines the next few weeks are good and a month from now. The raw rating on average is higher than it is today. Hey that's a good sign for Fox if they get a huge number on Monday and within three weeks they're back to normal or below were they. Were that is a very very bad sign for Fox. I think I think I think the next month month is gonNA give us kind of sneak peak it. What's going to happen when they moved Fox? I don't even understand why they're doing this royal reunion so close to launch of smackdown. It's like I feel like they're wasting a lot of the bullets if they have in in their holster because if you've already seen stone-cold Steve Austin come back on raw. Why do you WanNa see him a month or two later on smack back in a moment to wrap it up observer live attention business owners? 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A new report says gunshot survivors need more outreach support plus sharing climate change perspectives in Charlotte now our top story you up presented a villain Omar returned to Minneapolis Saint Paul Airport Thursday to cheers C._B._S.. News reports that comes just one day after a crowd at president trump's rally chanted sent her back when he singled the Freshman Democrat out for criticism Omar then held a previously scheduled townhall and Medicare on Thursday night with Representative John Paul of Washington C._B._S.. Notes of our Somali refugees who became a naturalized American citizen is the only one of four women who was not born in the U._S.. That MR trump singled out falsely claiming she blamed the U._S.. For terrorist attacks the predominantly white North Carolina rally crowd responded with those chance of centre-back a Michigan Group that advocates for Muslims is filing a civil rights complaint today against Tim Hortons restaurants claiming a worker there refused to survey Muslim American couple and told them quote to go back to your own country. Potter has our report at a news conference today. The Council on American Islamic Relations Michigan Chapter plans to release video from the incident which it says took place at a Tim Hortons Restaurant in Ypsilanti on June twenty eighth. Amy Dukuray staff attorney for care says things went downhill when the couple said their coffee order was wrong and asked for a replacement or refund the clerk at important screamed at them the B word and then say go back to your own country and she turned to the clerk and she said this is my country. I was born in Lansing. Michigan can't say that to me. I belong here and the clerk was like Oh do you. You really you don't belong here. The couple a lacordaire and her husband Amora Dini are U._S.. Citizens living in Ann Arbor. They said the clerk who appears to be an African American woman seemed to be angered by his accent and her head covering they say they left a message on the canadian-based restaurant chains complaint line but have not heard back the company did not immediately respond to a request asked for comment meantime Michigan Department of Civil Rights will investigate whether Tim Hortons on lawfully denied service at a public accommodation based on religion or national origin survivors of firearm violence and states like Maryland to their families or not the support. They need to cope with their recovery in trauma. That's according to a new report. Amnesty International says a combination of too much paperwork and not enough outreach keeps people from accessing Maryland program to help gunshot victims in twenty seventeen. The report says the most common reason for denying an application for victim compensation across all States was incomplete information on paperwork. Jazz meets sit who research manager at Amnesty International since twenty. I four percent of denials were for this reason that paperwork surrounding <hes> applying P._d.. Fund it's hard to kind of navigate the system and for people who don't have support or don't have access to some of that paperwork <hes> it can be kind of overwhelming the researchers surveyed survivors in cities with high rates of gun violence in Maryland Florida and Louisiana. The report says they're more than seven hundred firearm related deaths in Maryland in twenty seventeen but only one hundred ninety nine victim compensation applications and of those just fifty four were approved. This is Diane Bernard reporting there are concerns last minute addition to the Ohio new state biennial budget could threaten Democracy Governor Mike Dewine signed in House Bill 166 on Thursday which includes a provision to reduce the minimum number of workers at multi precinct polling locations on election day. Mike brickner with advocacy group all voting is local contends the need for poll workers is more crucial than ever as many counties will transition to new voting machines over the next year. It's very frustrating in that. We know that this could become a perfect storm for problems at the polls and twenty twenty two presidential election is going to have a higher turnout <music> out then gubernatorial elections but we even fond twenty eighteen record turnout supporters of reducing the number of poll workers point out that Ohio voters are now allowed to use any line in multi precinct pulling locations so the processes smoother Mary Chairman reporting this story was produced in association with meeting. The public interest in funded in part by the George Gun Foundation and finally Natty Araba gone tells us storms hurricanes and flooding of cost cities around the country billions of dollars today in Charlotte Business Leaders G._O._P.. Congressman Patrick McHenry or media to talk about how climate change is impacting the finance and the business community experts say real estate infrastructure and electric utility sectors are especially especially vulnerable to rising sea levels record high temperatures and increasing extreme weather events Jerry Taylor who leads the Niskanen Center says CEOS and shareholders realize what's at stake about half of the venture capital the world today is now directed by investors who are demanding climate action of a great majority of the U._S.. Corporate communities likewise interested in acting <hes> to head off the costs associated with climate change around fifty North Carolina business leaders are participating in today's discussion. The event was organized by the Nature Conservancy in North Carolina. I've my Clifford. Thanks for wrapping up you week with public do service we are member illicit support. It and we'll all line <music>. I'm news service DOT O._R._G.. 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Friday what that means just two more days left in the workweek the two hundred day of twenty nine thousand nine hundred sixty five days remaining in the air the first women's Rights Convention held in Seneca Falls New York on the state and eighteen forty eight Winston Churchill the first to use the two-fingered V. for victory symbol in nineteen forty wotton in one thousand nine hundred forty nine Marilyn Monroe given her first screen test at Twentieth Century Fox along with you have a feeling that maybe without even knowing why he just let somebody walkaway from you wouldn't know which way the turn of find anyone he before you came over here new screen test good enough for Monroe to earn her first motion picture contract in one thousand nine hundred sixty six fifty year old Frank Sinatra Mary Twenty one year old actress Mia Farrow in one thousand nine hundred eighty five Vice President Bush announced that New Hampshire teacher Christa McAuliffe would become the first schoolteacher to ride aboard the space shuttle. 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Space McAuliffe would perish in the January twenty nine thousand nine hundred eighty six challenger Disaster President Clinton announced the don't ask don't tell policy regarding gays in the military on this date in nineteen nineteen ninety-three in two thousand five death Camp Valley California registering temperature one hundred twenty nine degrees a total of twelve days over one hundred twenty two or higher reported overnight temperatures of one hundred degrees or higher also no reported also in two thousand five President George W Bush announced his choice of Federal Appellate Court Judge John Roberts to replace replace Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'connor and in two thousand fourteen James Garner Garner Star in many movies and T._v.. Hits Maverick and the Rockford byles died at his home in Los Angeles. Why don't you look around the desk? You can find deputy sheriff. I never said I was taken no job as a deputy. You're just trying China corner me into this thing sheriff a little surprised what's happening to me too and I would just riding through here on my way to Australia. And what do you think you're going well. This is just dominance stupid. Are you calling the sheriff stupid. Listen to him. He ain't about the town character was the town character now deputy sheriff and probably the second fastest gun around here. Did you hear that they probably is and if he isn't he will be after had a chance to work with him for a couple of days from the nineteen sixty-nine Western comedy support your local Sheriff With Jack Elam and Bruce Dern Garner passing away in the state in two thousand fourteen at the age of eighty-six also passing away in this date Captain Binghamton him to Mikhail's Navy Joe Flynn countries lefty present actor Jack Warden and actor director producer Gary Marshall. This is the birth date of firearms and Better Samuel Colt Lizzie borden Max Fleischer the animator and film producer presidential candidate George McGovern and George Hamilton the Fourth Abilene Abilene prettiest towel and I've ever seen happy ninety ninety four th birthday to sue Thomson sad movies. Make me cry in Norman both pop hits in the sixties also speaking of singers Vikki Carr turned seventy eight today yeah ah in the nineteen sixty seven hip let it be him Vikki Carr Seventy eight today Queens Brian May is seventy seventy-two Robert Gibson of the rock and roll express sixty one and dino that he still wrestling not a lot not like he did back you know years ago but he still performing among with Ricky Morton. <hes> turning fifty seven day a man very well known for top gun in E._R.. But best known at first for his role in revenge of the nerds Anthony Edwards fifty seven the time it was it was it was a good movie the making a good comedy to make and that was kind of the beginning of the high tech world and the Internet business and all that coming in to be so you know it was it was very it was actually topical. Anthony Edwards turning fifty seven today talking about revenge of the nerds benedict cumberbatch forty-three from the Gilmore girls and supernatural jared Pilecki is thirty seven and W._W._e.'s gender under Mahal who just signed a big new five year contract making a bunch of money guaranteed in the W._w._e.. Thirty three years old though some of the people celebrating the Nineteenth Day of July as their birthday. 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This is for products they offer thank you so much for tuning into Classic Radio Theatre on your favorite station from sixty eight years ago July nineteenth nineteen fifty one dimension x dwellers in space mm-hmm adventures in time and space told in future tense in the National Broadcasting Company in cooperation with street and Smith Publishers Astounding Science Fiction Bring you dimension x twenty years passed since the last of giant migration ships at crashed the surface of Mars bearing. It's pitiful handful of survivors of the Earth wars twenty years tourism scratching of a stubborn Mush and soil twenty years of trying to devise new solar engines that would use the strange they found on Mars twenty years of longing of turning is toward the green earth as in hung on on the horizon beckoning light and now it was done and the first new ship built of Shining Mush and chromosome had lifted bravely toward home with three men lock in its metal belly what they returned to Earth made Baron Mike Cosmic dust to a blackened radioactive hell or would they find intelligence still alive on the scourge planet what had twenty years of death and radio activity done to our beloved earth. I decided the cost Williams degeneration visit very candid with ended the gravitational meditational earth ten seconds nine eight seven six five four three five and four one colon fog and what's I'm Amanda Maitland's negative three via one negative for no studying. She goes lobby on Parabola. No if we're GONNA hold we should breach the heavy side list. Someone look at what used to be moments. That's a look at high rise up please. Yes mother twenties going home avenues with going home home to what captain home to a burned out radioactive planet incapable of supporting Human Life Evans and I don't agree with that Williams we think the earth is ready for us again. That will give us another chance. I'm sally captain but I was born and brought up on Mars under the new central government. We younger disagree with you about migrating vector for us. Mars is home well. We'll see there is some form of life on earth. We'll find out soon enough. Williams Ed Fun Fund York captain could barely see the top of the atomic traits believe in the twilight. They never finished building it. Doc as a tomb slow cruising speed rausing speed begins to look as if Williams is right captain not a sign of life on four continents <hes> make radiation mm checking them back from Mars. You'll agree with me gentlemen for all practical purposes. The planet is dead it still Mike does it. Am I going out of my mind. Look that way to the West. Could that be I haven't it is because the lights Kinda ship heading west southwest both speed say they are nights captain. It's a city a whole blasted. It's city lit up like a Christmas tree well. What do you think your debt planet now? Williams we shall see Evans remember. The commission wants evidence of life as we know it decelerate negative five GonNa take down as has an open area just on the edge of the city. Yes hold on gentlemen. We're about to land. <music> Jackson opened the Airlock Close All right gentlemen before we go out security at all times Williams you have Alaska I have it if anyone becomes separated virus chateaux make the sheep house there mediations shape inoke so far. This seems to be a night area anyone <music> unbelievable. We've been working hours now. Not Assume received must be someone. Explain your nipple building so we have a look here. Possibly the records might contain some clue good idea kick a weapons ready stores in good working on oil recently Phnom Colorado likes blazing and every office Williams stand to watch in the Carter Meyer blast opinions Evans. You'll come with me. It's not right here with a takes office checked again not enough to do any damage. Creeps doesn't service desk papers crumpled extent does if somebody came in and looked everyday calendar June eighteenth nineteen eighty-seven play that's the day of the evacuation. The dust cloud minority blanketed New York and was heading dog licenses. How I haven't peculiar feeding hello hello? I hear something scratching sort of noise what I call to ask some advice about depending problem. Can you so tell me the lateral cuts should be made. I hello hello this is absolutely saying look and I'll do that. Find A way. How is your live Atis and the and John John on again tomorrow? Hello hello it's gone dead. Who Was it? I don't know strange. Voice Voice carried on a conversation about some surgical operation without paying the slightest attention to anything. Let's route lot torch. Come on that. I don't know you'll shop just as the lights went out. I I'm sure I saw it looked like an old man and a white robe. It moved across the end of the car down that way Evans nothing they I said Williams I'm not ah the lights there aren't again. We're going to get to the bottom of this week. What someone is coming walking slowly toward the Carter coming closer coupling? It'll be a I know fire the word sh what shopping children are you. Is it really someone having hallucination nick. We Are no vision. You seem to be real. Actually the ship come down. I thought perhaps I was losing my mind. It's been so many years. I'm John Parsons. SAMAYA systems stuck Evans and Mr Williams. We've returned from us and it's happened would not alone any gentleman I see I waited hoax for so long who survived radiation. We did that on my family where the only ones. I answered the phone a moment ago. who wasn't you heard Hood Mabel his doctor to break the loneliness? I've recorded my voice and rigged up an automatic telephone prediction to hear the full in ring. I come here to do my work. I take it your medical. Then my name's Cornelius hathaway away hathaway hathaway the brains dude you know my name. Who doesn't I watched you on television college? I saw you twenty twenty three years ago. You proposed the difficult surgery for a cerebral Jaume. Mom's thank you must've gotten met my mind. I almost eighty now. You look fine. We've had the best of everything entire city to choose from cooler stolen best equipment come. When I show you ship I told Alice my my wife to prepare a feast? This is a great day for me. Gentlemen a great great day. This is my wife Gentleman Alice Ellis Captain Dr Evans and Mr. We know if you'll follow me gentlemen who we meet my children often beautiful woman. She looks no more than thirty five. These are my daughter's Susan Susan and Marguerite. This is my son John. She sit down down have a feast and on this occasion Susan Migrate Get the Best Subaru and the Democrat Napkins. John Fetched Glasses. This is Oh yes father in law. Only John says holiday you the twenty-three. Thank you now fuel. Excuse me what is it captain something wrong. Nothing except that it's impossible you see Dr Hathaway son was already in college when I started at make him at least forty five wonderful meal Mrs hathaway doctor. Your wife is an exception of a woman. Thank you gentlemen likes some fresh gingerbread your coffee. I bake this morning. Wonderful smell that Evans coming home. We enjoy having your here Mrs Hathaway. May I compliment join you. I haven't preserved your youth and beauty so well thank you we have had no worries here. No competition only the things we need for material comfort persons and I were wondering Dr Hathaway the radio-activity had any effect in preserving tissue your children in all look so young to it it is possible gentlemen of course radiation does strange things living tissue Alice. Could we have some champagne of course I'll only be a moment amazing women and see such grace such complete relaxation doesn't seem quite natural chicken processors just about to ask how you and your family managed to escape duck that we're very fortunate. I was working in share a mountains at the time July Nineteenth Nineteen fifty one dimension Exxon Classic Radio Theatre will return in four minutes the news of the day from sixty eight years ago today. You'll do it right to spend less than the things you need. Update and Organiz is your home. Lows is here to help you save every day. 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These were some of the headline Dateline Tokyo Allied and communist truce negotiators met the seventh time in case on to fresh out the major issues delaying agreement unofficial armistice program official allied announcement said the negotiators agreed on two major issues but still had at least one to settle the Communists indicated the stumbling block was whether the place withdrawal of all four and to some Korea on the agenda meanwhile now from Washington Ninety Thousand Veterans Korea will come marching home in the next ninety days under the army stepped up I in burst out rotation plan recruits from the U._S.. We'll take place an army announcement yesterday said the rotation rates reach thirty thousand this month and kept at that level through the next three months dateline Washington. The administration took a new beating on the price controls for yesterday but stayed up attempts to weaken. It's president wage stabilization program the G._O._P.. Southern Democratic Coalition in the House closed ranks thanks to both middle men's property guarantees that price officials said would force boost in the retail prices of many foods. The House also turned down President Truman's request for a one year freeze of farm parody or fair price standards and attempts to change the makeup of the wage stabilization more than the limited powers to handle non-wage disputes were turned down I- substantial majority dateline Washington Secretary State Dean Aitchison Opera Britain and France reassurance yesterday they will lose neither arms eight Nord. They're standing in areas. I used to be defended if this country makes military arrangement with Spain dateline Washington after eighty six years of existence the U._S. Secret Service became a permanent agency of the government for the first time on Monday. President Truman signed a bill ending the secret services year to year basis and secretary of Treasury sneider. How come we've never done this before? Snyder said we tried several times before but this time we rolled up our season went to work on. We got excellent cooperation all the way around dateline Washington a final by city plan for allocation of television channels. Maybe ready by the end of September chairman Wayne Koi of the Federal Communications Commission said yesterday but Koi making the command to parents before the Senate Commerce Committee made no outright promises that Martin depends on whether the commission must conduct further hearings Dateline Pilot Point Texas O._B.. Rich probably will be before long for Twenty Years O._B.. Rich worked hard telling the soil on this two hundred Acre Acre farm near Pilot Point Texas now producing oil well has been brought in riches getting richer though some of the vase top news stories is reported in the newspapers of Thursday July nineteenth eighteenth one thousand nine hundred fifty one on your radio dimension x which continues now on Classic Radio Theatre. We're very fortunate. I was working in Sierra Mountains. At the time I had a deadline laboratory where I did x-ray research. My Pet pet project. What is that the study of machine is they relate to human function and the corollary of well to continue when the dust cloud cover Domenica we remain in laboratory well supplied with food and water later on the radiation permitted? We made our way east back to our old home in the hopes of finding other survivors but by that time every living creature been evacuated demise we were stranded. The migration ships didn't wait for stragglers. That's true my father. I went on the last rocket out of New York. I've always loved this old house but the loneliness those first years east you had your wife and children hundred yes. I had my family if it will not for them. Gentlemen I assure you I would long ago. Put a bullet in my head champagne kept it. Oh thank you Mrs Hathaway may May I propose a toast. Let me gentlemen to us to May. She never be a stranger to manage what that is just rather up pain in the chest. I think he should lie down Dr John and Susan will of course why don't you gentlemen go out on the porch. Join the Air Sea Wall in the morning good night Dr Goodnight Come John. Yes uh well. What do you think of mother Earth? Now Williams smelled at some a breeze view of the city delighted up against the sky. It has a certain quality score one point for the back to Earth proponent. I didn't say that you're beginning to feel it though Williams I can tell you don't mind gentleman. I'm quite tired. I think I'll turn in excuse well captain well. What what do you make all this? I don't know what you mean this hathaway and his family. There's something strange and unnatural going on here. I can sense it. I think you're reading things into IT EVANS SO perhaps I'll turn into coming in a moment I smoke a cigarette beautiful view. What is it? It's not okay. You come out. How is he wristy? I've never seen him this bag as he's an old man. I'm sorry but the difference in your ages so apparent. You must must've been married very young. My husband is a very great man captain. It's too bad there was no into appreciate him. Once he wired the whole city with sound speakers and when he pressed a button the whole town lit up and made noises uses as if people were living in it he must have been very lonesome for people although with a woman such as you don't understand perhaps one day you will understand goodnight get denied Mrs Hathaway and Captain Captain Pawsox Dr Evans. What time is what's wrong? I couldn't sleep a few minutes ago. I heard someone slip slip out front door. Lights orders the old man he was headed toward our ship. Are you suggesting nothing accepted expanding unnatural for no man with a pad hot to go wondering off to in the morning they follow him see him yet. No look ahead there on the hill. Sign that headway kneeling in the moonlight yes I think so. Can we get closer said for that clump of pushes. This is close. He's doing there. What are those things on the ground could lot at grave markers four of them? All right seems to be praying over them less. Forgive me for what I've done and I had to do it. I was so deadly lonely you do forgive me doing too. I do think perhaps you can rest no. He's having another attack. Come on how the way the hathaway raises. His lips are moving. What is it Dr Conclusion? I I'm sorry I to spoil on this. I've expected it for some time with sex. This is infamy it really it doesn't matter except for them. What about them hathaway? You you suspect is suspected but I couldn't believe it until now do. They know no. They wouldn't understand right hand. I I I would want to know ever. Don't try to talk so dr it. Did he knew what is the end this time yes. He knew what was it he meant about your suspect light a match knock on those four grave markers and tell me what you see good Lord Alice Hathaway Marguerite Hathaway Susan Hathaway John Hathaway died July nine nineteen eighty-seven that's twenty years ago. If these markers correct then who are those others can't guess seven. Can't you guess in July Nineteenth Nineteen fifty one dimension x the conclusion in three minutes on Classic Radio Theatre. What a fly somewhere looking for cheap flights or cheap tickets then call that's right call the low cost airline travel hotline now for prices so low? We can't publish them anywhere. Low Cost Airlines has all kinds of cheap travel deals deals fly domestically and save up seventy five percent. 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Ada License Virginia State Commission license number servicemen adversely affected individuals of debt finance charges or collections activity including legal action not thanks for tuning in on this Friday additional classic Radio Theatre on your favorite stations Alec Conclusion of dimension x till I nineteenth nineteen fifty one MS hathaway. I awake yes captain. May I come in yes. It's about my husband isn't it. He'll new. I saw him go out tonight. He felt it was near the end. He died less than an hour ago. I'm sorry thank you. How do you feel? He told us it would happen one day and that he didn't want us to cry he didn't he just how you know. You said it was the worst thing that could happen to know how to be lonely and unhappy. What will happen to us now that he's gone? I Dunno where you stay with this. I would like to but I cannot. You know about us. Yes I know. I didn't think that you knew yourself the children don't I've been wear for alone while guest you're so perfect. Oh he would have liked to hear you say that he was very proud of his after a while he came to lovers nervous and at the end he took her says his real wife and children even forgot sometimes that he had made us. You'll gave him great big of comfort. Yes over the years we said hadn't talked. He loved so much to talk. I was used to know then he became lonesome for the children and so he made them. He told me about the things he did about his laboratory. Sean of the children suspect respect you see there were no other beings with which to compare you must have been great great genius each morning he took a recording of his voice into town and put it on the automatic telephone eight nine it would call us. I think what were the phone ringing and the sound of races and the lights on he was happy there was only one thing one flaw and that he couldn't make us grow and so he had to watch himself become an old old man. Why we stayed young it was a great blow to him and so we commend the body of this is man Cornelius hathaway to his mega ashes to ashes dust stood us return a man <hes> just Evans Williams? Stay hit a moment please. What is it nothing go back to the house? I want to speak to you. I know what you're going to tell US captain. I saw the names on the grave markers because well it's a mockery of blasphemy of everything we believe in for man to do something so either Pan to imagine what he faced patio imagine what it must have been like have watched his wife and children die slowly only of radiation burns to know that he was the last man on the Earth alone economy and unalterably alone laud man. What would you have done if you've had his mic his medical on technical genius credible as it is but with an entire American city on which the draw for supplies equipment a brilliant man might accomplish anything even that what are you suggesting captain at we take them back? We have enough space ship for that. Every ounce comes still leave them here like that alone. I think I have an answer cold blooded as it may see a lawn. I suggest that we turn them off deals with that. I could do that no but I could after all. They aren't human that worse than we're robots. They're ghoulish. Have you talked as she smiled at you. With that quiet beautiful smile we can't take them with us and it would be less than human delete them here without hathaway. Could you do it Adams gave me the blast gun women's waiting on the super. Take off half an hour six twenty five. He should be back soon. Yes he's doing the only humane thing captain they are less than human woman <hes> they well. It's done though and no one will live. That's the airlock he's back. Well use does your gun. Did you do it. When I ended the house? She looked at me. Those fine intelligent is I couldn't do it. It would be murder cold-blooded murder. I prayed you wouldn't be able to do it. They will never anything is fine as they are last two hundred three hundred thousand years get the cost of the integrator Williams. We'll take off in twenty minutes. I should be backed by then. They'll going out sir. You're going to say goodbye. You've come back to say goodbye. It was nice of you. I wanted you to know that I am coming back someday. When would you come? I don't know we'll take many years to prepare fuel for another trip. Six seven perhaps penned years. I will watch the sky at night. Guest is he would state. I'm afraid I must go now. I understand strange. I have a new feeling one which he did not teach us feeling a long sadness that one is not told that comes up being alive. I am alive even though he. He created me. I'm oppression now. Goodbye Alice Hathaway Goodbye John Parsons <music> Eh you have just heard another adventure into the unknown world of the future the world of and the time comes for men to explore the universe to deal with a strange inhabitants of other worlds. There will be much to remember. Perhaps the most important lesson of all seem to fundamental included in the training manuals listen at this time next week as dimension x brings a story from the pages of the Aug astounding science fiction story called courtesy. Uh Dementia next is presented each week by the National Broadcasting Company in cooperation with Street and Smith Publishers of the magazine Astounding Science Fiction Today Dimension X has presented Weller in silence <music> written for Radio George Leopards from the story by Ray Bradbury featuring the cast where Peter Cappelli Captain Parsons Bill Griffiths as Dr Hathaway and Gertrude Warner as ours. 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News reports that comes just one day after a crowd at president trump's rally chanted sent her back when he singled the Freshman Democrat out for criticism Omar then held previously scheduled townhall and Medicare of Thursday night with Representative John Paul of Washington C._B._S.. Notes of our Somali refugees who became a naturalized American citizen is the only one of love for women who was not born in the U._S.. That MR trump singled out falsely claiming she blamed the U._S.. For terrorist attacks the predominantly white North Carolina rally crowd responded with those chance of center back a Michigan Group that advocates for Muslims is filing a civil rights complaint today against Tim Hortons restaurants claiming a worker there refused a survey Muslim American couple and told them quote to go back to your own country. Susanna Potter has our report at a news conference today the Council on American Islamic Relations Michigan Chapter plans to release video from the incident which it says took place at important restaurant in Ypsilanti on June twenty eighth Amy Dukuray a staff attorney for care says things went downhill when the couple said their coffee order was wrong and ask for a replacement or refund the clerk at important screamed at them the B word and then say go back to your own country and she turned the clerk and she said this is not country. I was born lansing. Michigan can't say that to me. I belong here and the clerk was like Oh do you. You really you don't belong here. The couple a lacordaire and her husband Amora Dini are U._S.. Citizens ends living in Ann Arbor. They said the clerk who appears to be an African American woman seemed to be angered by his accent and her head covering they say they left a message on the canadian-based restaurant chains complaint line but have not heard back the company did not immediately respond to a request for comment meantime Michigan Department of Civil Rights will investigate whether Tim Hortons on lawfully denied service at a public accommodation based on religion or national origin survivors of fire are violence in states like Maryland to their families always are not getting the support they need to cope with their recovery and trauma. That's according to a new report. Amnesty International says a combination of too much paperwork and not enough outreach keeps people from accessing Maryland program to help gunshot victims victims in two thousand seventeen. The report says the most common reason for denying application for victim compensation across all States was incomplete information on paperwork. Jazz meets sit who research manager at Amnesty International since twenty four percent of denials were for this reason that paperwork surrounding applying P._d.. Fund it's hard to kind of navigate the system and for people who don't have support or don't have access to that paperwork <hes> it can indeed kind of overwhelming the research surveyed survivors in cities with high rates of gun violence in Maryland Florida and Louisiana. The report says they're more than seven hundred firearm related deaths in Maryland in twenty seventeen but only one hundred ninety nine victim compensation applications and of those just fifty four were approved. This is Diane Bernard reporting there are concerns less been addition to the Ohio new state biennial budget could threaten democracy governor. Mike like to Weinstein House bill one sixty six on Thursday which includes a provision to reduce the minimum number of workers at multi precinct polling locations on election day. 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This episode entitled the Walkie Talks. teacups was originally broadcast July nineteenth nineteen forty-six. This is your F._B._I.. This is your F._B._I.. An official broadcast from the piles of the Federal Bureau of Investigation presented a public service by the equitable life assurance on society in the United States and the equitable society is representative in your community F._B._I.. File while walkie talkie stick up UH during six horrible years of war billions uh-huh of human beings were slaughtered and today countless millions are homeless and starving all because the younger generations of two nations have been imbued with a savage contempt for the rights <hes> property of other grown up in the belief that the way to get what you want was the steelers and if necessary use a gun today the lives and write some property of American citizens <hes> <hes> being assaulted by the biggest army of criminals and the country's entire history old malden one out of five is under twenty one years of age and the percentage is increasing increasing last year the largest number of arrests in all age groups was boys and girls seventeen years old boy is more or less like those and tonight's case from the files of your F._B._i.. In the young Jack Jay's who's crippled leg long since earned him the cruel nickname gimpy spent most of his time and as little workshop from the seller of the Chase House in the Cincinnati and that's where was that afternoon with younger brother Freddie and bet he's running mate knuckles Butler brought him a problem the soul for them when we come in Jack <hes> sure Callahan go ahead. Okay knuckles want you to show us how to work something. What are you got you lay off what you're doing them in a gimpy we'll show you my name is Jack? Okay these things Jack Walkie talkie radio sets US right brand new <hes> and the stamped on them to know kid. What did you knuckles these buddy well? We just got home from the army. He had them and we borrow okay yeah. That's right Jack <hes>. That's really got him out of the work well. They have to be said the same frequency I nine one show you see we'll make it a hundred twelve megacycles. We'll make the wavelength about two and a half meters. What does that mean Jack? Well would take too long to explain you WANNA set of too. Don't you yeah let's see we I. I hope brought the antenna like this. When you WanNa talk with you asks flip the switch over this way or what about when the other guys talking flip it back I got it now? How can we tell things working well? I'm glad side and see if we can make contact okay leaders which like it is till you write. It looks like it's going to be real easy. Knuckles yeah the dog now. He said wait for him. I ain't GonNa Jack Talking Knuckles over yeah sure swell. Let me say something no way. I'm going to help you out in that job. Switches Open himmy. He didn't say job he said Joe. We're GONNA take these things out tonight and have some fun <music>. Not I'm on the root for the warehouse. Dope talking unless you got to warn me about some <hes> everything is still clear down here to the stairs lead done inside and islands is supposed to be on the top floor so uplift take me long. Just keep watch out for the cops. I'm going down in now. I have to go ahead. I'm Nicholson Police car just ten the corner going the warehouse. Wait a second. No it's going on by it makes kid from this time. Stupid don't Holler unless it's real trouble shut up. That'd be don't move and you won't get hurt. Okay Gotcha. Come down the steps. I heard you ever since you got a roof yeah. I just wanted to see how you at working. So now you know yeah what is smart he was more Kentucky's. Wait a minute. Don't flip that switch so Yup Pelican here. What's going on WANNA get him to? I don't ask him but teller given that same amyloid switch and tell you what to say all right now when I flip the switch if you tell them what I'd say for to tell them. Get sure I got you get this shirk. I'll get the NYLONS and be with you in two hours later that night in the office of Agent Charge Rivera the Cincinnati field office officer the F._B._I.. And I'M NOT WATCHMEN DOWN TO MEDFORD brothers warehouse Mr Rivera who seem to take quite a going over yeah you had them pretty good knocked ahead. I guess what happened well. I've already reported the burglar the police but it's not you fellas might the interested to. He's a burglary yeah. It's a couple of hours ago. Two kids folded kids a lot of them getting in trouble these days yeah oh I came to you. I remember reading in the paper this morning about that army stuff that was broken down on the river docs last night. Oh Yes yes. There was something not dealers in walkie-talkie radio said stolen these kids tonight Mr abair US walkie-talkies. One of them was posted down the street for look while the other one come inside but the roof to steal some NYLAND's soon. I should have held on the one kid I had instead of trying to get him to get the other one inside too. That's when you got struck down and side. Did you get a look at these walkie-talkie. Set It on yes. It had U._S.. His armies downtown you must have been able to get a pretty fair description of the boy to yes sir. I'd say about seventeen eight just a minute. I WANNA get Special Agent Niles on his yes and then we'll get to work and see if we can save a couple of youngsters from getting into even more serious trouble than they have tonight. Hey Hey jack what is the friend has not been here. No is that guys supposed to meet me here an hour ago seeing quite a bit of him lately. Aren't you yeah why he's not a good guy to hang around with. <hes> wait a minute suits. One of you run into my life. Just giving you some good advice. Well say you know he's arrested last month for breaking into a candy store over on Front Street. They didn't hang that job on got off. Nevertheless he was guilty and you know it all. I know the right guy so layoff in my only concern is that he doesn't get you into trouble preaching well. Yeah I gotTa look out for myself. <music> Rivera's picking miles Mr revere good glad you called in and I haven't got any lead on those catch. Maybe I have walk woman just phone she'd read about the walkie talkies being stolen yeah. She saw a kid next door to her house yesterday afternoon. Using one boy has crippled league so he couldn't have been the one who slugged the nightwatchman. I could've been the one who played look out. It's possible anyway you better hop out and have a talk with boy is the name and address <music>. Hello Hello Jack Chase Yeah. That's right my name Amos Miles. I'm a special agent at the F._B._I.. F._B._I.. That's right well. What are you doing here like to ask you a few questions? Okay what about a walkie talkie radio set the you'll have one around you NOSSA. Why neighbor of yours said she saw you using one yesterday afternoon? What is all about robbery was committed last night by two boys? They use walkie-talkies. We believe ever say ones that were stolen from an army warehouse. I don't know anything about them. I understand you have a brother yeah. That's right around those but I'm sure he didn't have anything to do with it either we we were both home last night. When that Robbie was committed I can prove it out of you know you can because I I didn't tell you what time the robbery happened well I? I don't have to know the time I see we'll jacket. I guess that'll be all for now. I can't help Mr. Maybe you will get one way or another long son. I have creding. Hey what captured knuckles had to wait around to see that guy downtown did he by the nylons sure how much fifty bucks but there were ten times that you told me yourself up for just starting but until we got a rep then we can ride our own tickets to a the chances for a measly fifth say upbeat. Is your brother on the seller. I don't know let's go see what I'd like to clipping for a couple of chisels. Come on what it needs fizzles for. How do you think we break into places aces? Bring him doorbell. Go ahead. Okay Hi Jack Winning few ready. Yeah Yeah and you tune knuckles not far. I had a visitor. There are a little while ago from the F._B._I.. What did he want? I think you already know what are you talking about those walkie-talkies. You didn't get them from your cousin. Knuckles sure you'll lying. They were stolen from the on that ain't shut up read. They use last night in a robbery at a warehouse. You committed that robbery. You're crazy ono the F._B._i.. Try depend on me because somebody told me trying out the walkie talkies yesterday. What did you tell them nothing yet? What do you mean by that going to give you both a chance? I go down the F._B._I.. And tell him you did it. What do you want to see your own brother thrown on the clink? He'll only getting worse trouble hanging around with you can do as I say Freddy Okay. I gave you a chance right. I'm GONNA get yeah. What do you think you're gone? New Won't confess so I'm going to do it for you. Know you get out of my way are you don't knuckle g proud of this not should give him quite get Outta here <music>. We will return in just a moment to tonight's case which shows how your F._B._I.. Helps provide national security July nineteenth nineteen forty six. This is your era B._I.. Continues in three minutes on Classic Radio Theatre. Are you looking for senior care for your mom or dad but don't know where to start hi. I'm Joan Lunden with A.. Place for MOM. Nobody knows your parent or loved one better than you and nobody we know senior living better than the experts at a place for mom they've helped thousands of families find the right place for their mom or dad. I was so glad that I called a place for mom. My adviser really listened and was truly my partner in finding senior care for my dad. 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File the walkie talkie stick up AH in Europe lawless may of swaggering arrogant young Nazi bullies took what they wanted by fourth and savagely struck down even the helpless and defenseless who stood in their way in America today it is a lawless than rapidly growing on me up swaggering arrogant young bullies aw taking what they want by four in Cincinnati that day was one such bully who struck down crippled boy and it was that boy's own brother who stood by and watch the beating it was early in the evening the same day that Special Agent Niles of the F._B._I.. Opened the door to Roman twenty one in Cincinnati Hospital. Hello Jackie Jackie what Oh hello. The nurse said I could come in. Okay okay thanks. Did you know I was here. I want to your house again awhile ago to see you. Were they tell you that you told them. It was a hidden run dry but if not Saddam love that's what it was. Automobiles can follow like your messed up Jack but I never knew to reach out and punch their victim in the eye. To what do you mean you've got a beautiful shiner. Look I got Jack whereas your brother. I don't know oh you mean. He hasn't even been here to see you. Yeah sure sure he was here. They must have come in and gone out the window. Nobody in the hospital so nobody home knows where he is. Nobody Knuckles House knows where he is either. That's the nickname Roy who's slugged watchmen last night and in your brother has a powered by that nickname the our folks totally oh. Why did they beat you up who said they did? I could tell the day that you'd guest who committed that crime last night. So when you wouldn't talk I left Iran now. Look look Mr you went to Freddie and knuckles advisement confess and that's when they beat you up isn't it. I'm not talking look. You're not sparing your folks or Freddie Either Jack. What do you mean you're letting them in for much? Bigger shock later on your only saving ready for that day when he killed somebody and get sent to the electric share. How you feel about that knowing that you could have prevented? What do you want to know? Everything I've said is the truth. Isn't this. Yes then where are they. I don't know I don't all right but you can still help. Maybe you can tell me something about those walkie-talkie <music> Brady yeah do me a favor sneaking along this like wina convicts. I can't help it look. We got here to Louisville located. Nobody knows we're here but they'll keep walking goes when they get to Louisville. We'll be gone guys stopped moving and stop using their heads get caught. Maybe so I gotTA GOTTA hang out in case out. Another job got to raise some. Do I come on. What are we going to find the hook shot? What four I'm going to hockey's binoculars that'll bring us twenty twenty-five but one leg I think when he sees you as Omni stamped on I always get the best that's all? Let's go when you send for me. Mr Rivera that alertly put out on the walkie talkies vernaculars last night has paid off yeah. I just got a call from the Office in Louisville. What happened to kids answering the description of the ones where after polling some army binoculars about an hour ago? I guess I Better Start Rolling Spencer. The Louisville will be waiting to give you a hand good. All I hope is the kids. Don't get rid of those walkie-talkies too <music>. Come on in everything's Freddie. I got us a job. Okay stop for tonight. You will try to get ready to go somewhere. I was just waiting till you got back back to tell you. Tell me what I'm going back home. Your what I made up my mind not those I'm leaving now. Sit Down do any good act that way knuckles. Maybe I didn't hit you hard enough no matter what you do I'm quitting. You can't could even to let you why not Europe to your is now same Zion. I don't care I'm going back home and give myself up and you want to do that. 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Talkies Vitamin mm-hmm knuckles told you not to talk tonight unless it was trouble but you've been in that so long I got worried I'll be with plenty to or I still across the street way left me. Hey hours it for a live Freddie. What I'm getting up and Oculus back to that doesn't step on <music>? Hello Pretty back way now where I came in ultra yeah. Everything's all clinical some afraid. You're wrong Freddie matter who said that that's allegiance to the F._B._i.. is picked up ready outside. What is this special agent to and you're both coming back to Cincinnati Homage Apprentice Cincinnati all at a certain cripple boy tell you all about it <music> because his youth and his sincere desire to go straight again young ready chase was released to his parents and put on his good behavior? Hey there for a period of six months. The void gold knuckles Butler however showed no spirit of redundant whatsoever and he has now serving term in a school of Corrections <music> Ladies and gentlemen. 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The O'Reilly Update, June 12, 2019

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The O'Reilly Update, June 12, 2019

"O'reilly here. It is Wednesday June twelve thousand nineteen. You are listening to the O'Reilly update. And here's what's happening across our nation. Joe Biden makes one of the biggest campaign promises in history. Bernie Sanders says no one will be able to avoid is new healthcare plan, a Christian Baker in Colorado facing a third lawsuit for so called discrimination, the FBI descends on the Dominican Republic after the mysterious deaths of American tourists. Jon Stewart eviscerates congress for failing to support nine eleven first responders also coming up. I message of the day about Jon Stewart, but I to the very early campaign trail, Joe Biden, a huge campaign promise in Iowa Tuesday, saying, his administration will cure cancer, should he win the two thousand twenty election, I promise you. He said. If I'm elected president, we're gonna cure cancer, Bernie Sanders, making a different kind of promise on the campaign trail, the Ramana Senator confirmed this week that no one in America will be able to opt out of his thirty two trillion dollar health care plant Santer said the new program will be structured like social security. You get what you get a beggar. In Colorado, phasing, his third discrimination lawsuit for refusing debate a cake. He says, violates his religious beliefs master piece cake. Shop owner Jack Phillips made national headlines in two thousand eighteen when the supreme court decided he could legally deny service to a same sex wedding, the new sued once Phillips obey cake. Celebrating customers, quote gender transition Philip says, no, the FBI and the Dominican Republic after a nod, other American tourists mysteriously died. On the island, the number of US Jeff stands at six in less than twelve months. Experts believe a harmful pesticide, used to treat at infestations at luxury resorts could be killing the tourists. But DR is a dicey place, at least in my opinion, back to Washington DC where comedian Jon Stewart, criticized members of congress for failing to support the nine eleven first responders the heroes. Many sick with cancer caused by the terror attacks travel to Washington with they were met with a nearly empty room in the house of representatives, as many lawmakers gift to hearing steward. Call the situation, shameful and a stain on the institution more on Jon Stewart's comments coming up in my message of the day. We have all been reading about the exodus of some Americans from the heavily taxed areas are. Entry to states that embrace personal freedoms, mall, government and lower taxes. Now, if you are thinking of voting with your feet, you need to check out real estate agents. I trust dot com. At real estate agents. I trust dot com. They have a great agent where you currently live, who will help you. So you're home quickly and for top dollar. The also have the best agents where you wanna move, so they'll work on your behalf to find you a great home and be your advocate, so you can buy without the stress worry and travel. A buying remotely all the Asians have been heavily vetted for the past performance are like you fans of this program. They also are waiting to welcome you into their communities and help you find your dream home. So get moving with real estate agents. I trust dot com. That's real estate agents I trust dot com. You are listening to the Riley update and here is the message of the day. John Stewart is a liberal man who loves his country. I've known him for years together. We raise millions of dollars for charity by doing a show on the net. That actually crashed because so many people wanted to see it now John Stewart has retired from the comedy show. He hosted for many years and has voted himself to helping nine eleven responders who became ill after that terrible day, Stewart has petitioned the federal government to extend their healthcare benefits because some of them are fighting cancer and are running a medical bills that are bankrupting their families. So Jon Stewart traveled to Washington yesterday bringing some of the nine eleven responders who are ill with him to testify in front. Of the House Judiciary committee, that's Nadler. Well, most of the congress people did not show up for the year, insulting Jon Stewart and the nine eleven responders Stewart was angry as I sit her today. I can't help. But think what an incredible metaphor. This room is for the entire process that getting healthcare and benefits for nine eleven first responders has come to the high me. A filled room of nine eleven first responders. And in front of me, a nearly empty congress. Now when you step back from this, it is not surprising that Jon Stewart and the nine eleven responders were snubbed by the congress, people for years, congress, the Senate, the house, even the president's that have held office have not been proactive in helping our military people who fight the war on terror or the nine eleven people who got her, you may know that I have raised tens of millions of dollars for the independence fund dot or that organization buys high-tech wheelchairs, for the most gravely wounded military people, people who fought in Iraq in Afghanistan around the world against Islamic fanatics. Now when I first got involved with this. I said, well, why isn't the federal government paying for the track chairs? That's what they call them. Why does private money have to be raised to give the military people mobility and actually it gives them their lives back because the acquire independence through the chair because the chair goes everywhere, and they don't have to have their families? Push them around, and they can do activities, and it raises her psychological profile. But now the federal government wouldn't do anything zero wouldn't match the funds that I raise for the independence fund dot org organization wouldn't do anything. So now Jon Stewart's running into the same problem, he wants benefits for nine eleven responders extended, it's not that much money and the congress, people don't show up to hear the stories. It's simply outrageous. So Jon Stewart is a patriot. The federal government is not doing his duty to those who protect us, and this situation should change. I am outraged. For more news and analysis. Please check out Bill O'Reilly dot com where we do the no spin news, every weeknight at seven pm Easter. We'll be back with something you might not know right after this China and Mexico trade wars can have an impact on inflation and weaken the US dollar. That's why many Americans are deciding to protect their cash by investing in gold. I recommend that you contact the Hartford gold grew. To learn more to get you started. The Hartford goal group will gift a free silver coin to all my radio listeners. If you are listening right now, you can get this free coin from the Hartford gold group. No purchase. Necessary. All you have to do is give them a call. Eight seven seven four four four GO L D gold eight seven seven four four four goal. So call them today to claim your free coin available for a limited time, only the number eight seven seven four four four four six five three eight seven seven four four four four six five three call now. Now, the Arale up date brings you something, you might not know, perhaps the most used word in the world is okay. Every language says it the same way every person on the planet those what it means, but few know where okay? Came from Shakespeare didn't know the word, nor did the Romans or the Greeks experts in language. Nope. Okay. Started right here in the USA. With Andrew Jackson, a crusty guy who actually killed a man in a duel, reelected, president in eighteen thirty three Jackson shows secretary of state Martin van Buren, as vice-president, then Buren was a career politician from old kinder- hoop. New York near Albany. It was on the little magician, because he could get things done. When others could not it was also very short five six anyway. Jackson, light van Buren, because the little guy, pretty much agreed with everything Jackson said. Yes, sir. Mr president. Right. You are. He was a nineteenth century, Ed McMahon and fact, Martin's obsequiousness has that for the word of the day made him a running joke in Washington. The DC swamp people began referring to him as old kinder- hook which was shortened to you. Guessed it, okay. The word of Aleutian was when you were gray as Martin van Buren always did with Jackson. You say okay as in are you okay with that? It is strange and incredible that the most used word in the world comes to us from Martin van Buren, who eventually became the first president who was born in American citizen when he took office in eighteen thirty seven all the other presidents were born overseas or not American citizens. Unfortunately, mardi was a bad president, another nickname was then placed upon him. Martin van ruin because the US economy collapsed on his watch then congressman Davy Crockett, some van Buren up by saying he is his opposite to general Jackson as Deng is to diamond. Okay. Right back. A few. Weeks ago, we announce our first ever cruise through history taking place next spring. This is more than your average. Pleasure. Cruise. Yes, is going to be great Italian food, and plenty of time to bask in the Mediterranean sun, but we're also going to take you back in time to the foundations of our faith our freedom and human progress. There are four options available on a cruise but basically will begin in Venice, then sale, the eastern Mediterranean, visiting Croatia Greece in Israel while they're you walk where Jesus in the prophets walked guided every step of the way I'll be there. So we'll my pal Len Beck. Two of us will be doing a couple of shows together, one while at sea, the other in Israel. Also joining us David Barton rabbi Lapine and Stu we would love for you to share the experience as we cruise through history together. Please visit come sail away. Dot com to learn more. That's come sell away dot com for all the details and that is the Orion update. Again, please check out Bill O'Reilly dot com for more commentary, and please consider my book, killing the SS makes great Father's Day gift.

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1848, Cass vs Taylor: Old Rough and Ready

American Elections: Wicked Game

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1848, Cass vs Taylor: Old Rough and Ready

"It's January fifteenth. Eighteen forty five at Brown's hotel and Beltsville Maryland twelve miles outside of Washington Democratic Congressman William Lowndes Yancey of Alabama relaxes in the hotel parlor on the first floor. His legs are propped up on a coffee table. He smokes a cigar and reads a newspaper paper surrounded by colleagues and friends. Well did you hear the news. Voice Yancey holds up a copy of the New York Tribune New York paper. Say on the talk of the town. It with a smile. Alabama Congressman Reuben. Chapman holds up a different publication. Don't believe everything you read Yancey. This article says you're already dead. Well no doubt a wig editor indulging himself and wishful thinking Ansi seems to not have a care in the world which is odd considering. He's come to Beltsville on a bloody bloody errand. He's in town for a duel with a WIG. Congressman from North Carolina named Thomas. Kleinman Yancey called clinging dishonest on the floor of the House and Klingner Klingner demanded satisfaction. They're set to meet on the dueling grounds in less than an hour's time. Have you any fear Mr answer from what I understand. Claiming doesn't even know how to use a pistol a bit womanly as the answer. Though is no stranger to violence a few years back. He shot and killed his wife's uncle in a street brawl. He was tried for murder convicted of manslaughter and served three months in jail. Before returning to Congress there he insulted Clinton's character senator on the floor of the House yes he refused to retract his statements and claimant issued the challenge one of Yankees friends in Alabama named Ab Meek raises. His class offers a toast to congressman. Yancey they his aim be true. Well here here. They're toast is interrupted. Don't when the front door of the hotel bursts open a group of policemen flood inside Yancey and the rest leap to their feet panicked. There's no doubt who the police have. Come for your Congressman Chapman leaps into action. Mr Yancey taking the stairs. That's an exit up there as Yancey has men make a run for it. Chapman grabs me by the arm arm. We must forestall. I'll follow your lead you there. State your name Sir. Chapman calmly sets down his drink. Reuven Chapman of Alabama this. This is Mister Meek Office Congressman Reuben Chapman very same whereas Mr Yance that I can't say we're aware that doing is outlawed Outlawed in this state. I know nothing of any dual officer we know Mr Yancey is traveling with you. You tell us where to find him. We'll let you go free. Perhaps try Washington here. He works there steaming with rage. The officer turns back to his men and barks orders arrest of but while Chapman and meek were being detained Yancey and his men snuck out. The back of the hotel narrowly escaping arrest. They ran through a stretch of fields and woods until they reached the prearranged doing grounds where Clinton and his party were waiting. The policeman tracked Yancey all the way to the dueling grounds to try and stop the a bloody affair but they didn't get there in time when they arrived. The dual was done at three PM on Monday. January fifteenth eighteen forty five to the United States congressman from opposing. Political Parties. Stood back to back walk ten paces and fired I'm Lindsey Graham Graham and this is American elections wicked game In the Yancey cling Mundul ended without bloodshed. Both congressman walked away unscathed with their honor intact. The dual was personal but he was also political. Their heated words grew out of a fierce debate over a divisive political question whether to admit Texas into the Union as a slave state Texas was of course ultimately admitted but the process revealed a nation and fractured along regional lines. The South largely supported the expansion of slavery. The North opposed it in May of eighteen. Forty six the issue cropped up again Dan. When President James K polk declared war on Mexico if victorious America stood to gain to massive new territories that would increase the size of the US by twenty percent Alta California and New Mexico? The South largely applauded the move many in the north so Mr Pokes war as a Democrat driven scheme to to expand slavery in response to these rising tensions poke sought to end the war quickly by asking Congress for two million dollars to buy Mexico surrender and the to to New Territories. The appropriations bill passed the house but it stalled in the Senate continent endless debate between the pro and anti slavery factions and both parties to to break the gridlock. A Northern Democrat from Pennsylvania named David Wilmot introduced an amendment to the appropriations. Bill the Wilmot Proviso as it was known. Call for the Prohibition of slavery in the New Territories the bill and the proviso would never make it out of the Senate in large part due to southern resistance. Paulk would have to beat Mexico on the field of battle that bloody conflict would have unintended consequences. It would give rise to a national celebrity who threatened to pry the reins of power from the Democratic Party Week. General Zachary Taylor. This is episode sixteen eighteen forty eight gas versus Taylor old rough and ready It's just after dawn on February twenty-second eighteen forty seven outside a US military encampment near Saltillo Mexico. Almost a year has passed since the beginning of the Mexican American war and in Saltillo there are roughly forty seven hundred American troops opposing them as a massive contingent of Mexican soldiers elders. Twenty thousand strong led by General Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana just outside the American camp. A staff officer rides his horse in full gallop. He has in his possession. A very important dispatch terms of surrender from General Santa Anna as he rides into camp he has directly for the officers quarters. He dismounts ties up his horse and halt into the officers tent where to General Stand Waiting General John Wall and General Zachary Taylor General Taylor for you bringing us his terms. The staff officer hesitates for a moment. General John Wolf second in command. General Taylor barked at him for Heaven's Sakes Got Man General. Santa Ana is demanding. Our immediate surrender said on as a fool. What else does it say? The staff officer steadies himself. He's exhausted. Did Santa Ana kept him waiting for hours. And he's not sure how General Taylor will react. If we surrender. General Saana will spare a slaughter if not he he promises we will be cut to pieces. General Taylor reaches into his pocket pulls out some chewing tobacco. All you also assured me that you would be treated with the consideration ratio of one of those belonging to the Mexican character. What do you think the staff officer freezes unsure how to proceed mecer? Yes you the staff officer general for a sign of help but doesn't get any so we screwed up the courage to speak. We should make preparations and bring the battle to Santa Ana Dan. We have enough manser. We can beat them back. General Taylor strides over to the staff officer and places his hand on his shoulder. I like you thinking sergeant. Would you do me a favor and deliver a message to the esteem. General Santa Ana yes sir of course which I town tell them to go to hell. Taylor slaps slaps the staff officer on the shoulder and returns to his business. I suggest you get a move on sergeant. Yes General The staff officer mounts his horse and gallops off into the night towards awards the Mexican lines to deliver general. Taylor's message there will be no surrender. Santayana will have to fight. mm-hmm outnumbered General Taylor used artillery to repel Mexican forces at the Battle of point of Vista and help bring about Mexico. Surrender his victory. They're also solidify Taylor's reputation as a national hero but already momentum. For General Taylor's presidential candidacy had been building for months in June of eighteen. Forty six WCHS. Alarms Group of Citizens Meant in Trenton New Jersey on the side of the famous revolutionary war. Battle there they declared General Taylor the People's candidate for president it. It was a historic moment. The first popular presidential nomination in American history and after the Battle of point Vista Taylor mania swept the country. One on Whig newspaper wrote the Taylor. The hero of Wayne Avista was heart and soul a wig. Another wrote that his candidacy would destroy the monster. That was the Democratic Party. The Pro Taylor Movement gain traction all across the country especially in the South Taylor was a war hero to be sure but he was also a slave owner born into the plantation in Aristotle's crecy his slavery Bona fee days gave many in the south confidence. That Taylor would protect southern interests in the White House so not long after Buena Vista Wake Wake members of the House and Senate began campaigning. On Taylor's behalf. They used the press as a vehicle to push Taylor as the whigs most viable option for the eighteen. Forty eight election. Still the Taylor mania mass. Some serious issues the people knew Zachary Taylor the general but few new Zachary Taylor the politician and almost no one knew Zachary Taylor the man Zachary Taylor was a problematic candidate a career military man he had never held held public office and new next and nothing about the workings of government. In fact he had never even voted in a presidential election or any election. In addition the whigs have been vocal their opposition to the Mexican American war nominating. The hero of that war had the definitive whiff of hypocrisy and asked to slavery what made him popular in the south gave of many in the North Pause as one anti slavery newspaper wrote Taylor was a slave owner and a slave breeder he would be the warrior of the promoters of the extension of slavery. Sorry but Taylor. Supporters tried to use his non-political military background to their advantage. They attempted to portray Taylor as a second George Washington a man above of partisanship a general. who had no ambition for the office and would only serve if the people demanded it? As to the slavery question Taylor supporters stuck to the old adage. The best comment is no comment at all in his public remarks. Taylor would avoid the issue of slavery expansion and where possible he keep his opinions to himself. In eighteen eighteen forty seven the wilmot proviso had failed to pass the Senate but the measure still had life. There was a strong chance will not proviso or something like it would find. Its Way to the the desk of the next president. This possibility would cast a shadow of the election of eighteen. Forty eight and with the end of the war inside and with Alta California and New Mexico Texaco hanging in the balance many Americans demanded to know. Where does Zachary Taylor stand on the expansion of slavery In the summer of eighteen forty seven the editor of the Cincinnati signal sought. An answer to the question was tyler. A real wig wigs believe Congress not the president should control the reins of government the signal demanded to know ask president. Would Taylor let Congress exercise the wishes of the people or would he impose hosts his own will the signal wrote all we ask of the highest office under the constitution is to bow to the will of the people and restrain. The executive. Taylor's response was Cagey. He replied that he was not at liberty to discuss his opinions on subjects of public policy. He had no aspirations for the presidency but if the country called halt into the office he would not refuse. Many whigs were distressed. Taylor's invasion in July of eighteen forty seven one week newspaper in Pittsburgh. Wrote General. Taylor cannot be the whig candidate less. The whigs abandoned all their principles. After Taylor's letter was published in the signal. Democrats saw blood in the water. They pointed to Taylor's alerts non-response as clear evidence that the whig party was trying to make Taylor puppet to use his name and reputation as a tool to achieve their political ends in July eighteen. And forty-seven the Pro Democrat Detroit. Free Press wrote that the American people would no longer have to hear about Taylor being a good wig because Taylor the free press explained was was not a wig at all. The Democratic press also had a warning for Democrats who are tempted to see Taylor as a viable option for president in August of eighteen. Forty seven the pro. Oh Democrat Buffalo Republic wrote that any Democrat who had been infected with Taylor mania and had forsaken their faith and run after strange gods should reflect upon the fate of the Democratic Traffic Party and returned to the fold in the aftermath of the signal. Editorial Taylor back was against the wall. If you remain non-committal he might lose his base of support. Port Taylor was not a second Washington. He did want the White House and to get it. In the autumn of eighteen forty seven he crossed over the nonpartisan line. Taylor wrote two more letters that found their way into national papers. He declared himself a decided wig and shortly after the Richmond. Wig wrote that all doubts to his political affinities I should put to rest as the whigs. United around Zachary Taylor. The Democrats were war over a controversial issue that threatened to tear them apart in the eighteen. Forty four contest. President Paul Can Promise the Democratic Party that he wouldn't run for a second term in his day he was the youngest president ever to serve but midway through his first term polk was worn down in his health was failing him his years of fighting in favor of Western expansion had exhausted him and the midterm elections eighteen forty six revealed field. The country was ready for a change. Democrats maintain control in the Senate but they lost the house in part. Because of Mr. Pokes war with Mexico hawks. Expansionist tennis agenda had all but split. The Democratic Party in two and nowhere was this rift more evident than in the state of New York. In September of eighteen forty seven New York Democrats gathered in Syracuse for the State's Democratic convention. The main issue on the table was whether or not to adopt the Wilmot Proviso Advisoe as part of the New York. State Platform New York. Democrats were split into two factions over the issue. The Barn Burners and hunters the barn burners largely argued in favor of the proviso to them. Slavery was a moral and political evil. And it was. New York's to limit its expansion. The hunters argue that POLKA party line. Slavery was a state right. The Proviso was nothing more than assault on President Polk in an attempt to stir up his unity among the democratic ranks at the eighteen. Forty seven New York State Convention the Hunters and the Barn burners fought it out of the issue the hunters won the argument and the Proviso never made it. Into New York's platform the hunters then selected thirty six delegates to send to the National Democratic convention. Set to take place in May of eighteen. Forty eight in response. Though the Barn burners I went into open revolt. They refuse to accept the outcome of the State Convention and in eighteen forty eight. They nominate a thirty six delegates of their own pro. Proviso movement's cropped up in several other states including Ohio Massachusetts but these movements failed to gain significant traction in large part because party regulars were quick to shut them down nominee for party unity but every time they left behind a trail of disaffected. Democrats tensions worsened February eighteen. Four eight when word of a peace treaty with Mexico reach Washington as part of the terms Mexico ceded to the US Alta California New Mexico and all disputed land in Texas down to the Rio Grande. B.'s Mexican states incorporated all or parts of what is today California Nevada Utah Colorado Arizona and New Mexico it was a massive expansion inch of US territory but the peace treaty pressed the questions of the Proviso and catapulted the Democratic Party into what Illinois Representative Stephen a Douglas called a glorious state state of confusion in May of eighteen forty eight. The Democratic Convention was held in Baltimore in the lead up to the convention over a half dozen regional. Candidates emerged urged most with strong basis of local support and well-funded political machinery. Already in place but there was not a clear front runner. One New York politician tried tried to use the crowded field to his advantage former president. Martin van Buren the defacto leader. The Barn Burners van Buren was in large part the architect of the Democratic Party party at the time of the convention. He was in his late sixties but he wielded a considerable amount of influence especially in New York. Van Buren was still bitter over the eighteen forty four Democratic convention. He had been denied. His party's nomination by the dark horse. Candidacy of James K poll in eighteen. Forty eight Van Buren was determined. Went to win the Democratic nomination and short of that to extract his revenge of the very party he created. We could game is sponsored by upstart. 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Your rate only takes a few minutes and won't affect your credit. That's that's upstart dot com slash elections in April of eighteen. Forty eight one month before the Democratic National Convention Martin Van Buren wrote. What would come to be called the barn burner manifesto in it van Buren condemn the extension of slavery and maintain that the thirty six barn burner delegates and not their hunker opponents were the rightful delegates of New York? The Conventions Committee tried to strike like a deal between the two warring factions. By offering. A compromise both delegations would be seated as long as they promised to accept the outcome of the convention the hunters agreed. Read The barn burners refused the question of who would be seated was ultimately left the assembly at large in Baltimore in May of eighteen forty eight after days of heated needed debate. The assembly passed a motion to seat one. Half of each New York delegation both the hunters and the barn burners remained at the convention but they refuse to accept accept. The outcome one southern attendee went on the record telling the press. The New York delegation was hell bent on making mischief for the National Democrats in revenge for the action of the Baltimore. More convention of Eighteen Forty Four Martin van buren himself did not attend but he sent surrogates including his son John to speak on his behalf and advocate for his candidacy to see but on May twenty third eighteen forty eight the first ballot reveal that Martin van Buren was playing from behind. Senator Lewis Cass of Michigan was the clear front runner her and he won the nomination on the fourth ballot. Earning one hundred seventy nine out of two hundred fifty votes the sixty six year old senator from Michigan gave the Democrats a strong long answer. To Zachary Taylor. Cast was a veteran of the war of eighteen twelve. But unlike Taylor he was also a distinguished statesman. He had served as the governor of Michigan. The secretary actor Terry of war and the US ambassador to France. He had worked under the Jackson Administration which gave him the added benefit of being Jackson man and on the question of the Proviso Proviso cass advocated for the doctrine of popular sovereignty. Arguing that the people of the New Territories themselves not the federal government should decide the slavery. Question Van Buren of course new. His candidacy was a long shot. He had instructed the barn burners in the event of his defeat to walk out of the convention in protest after cast his nomination the nation the barn burner is following orders that night. The convention reconvened nominated casts as running mate former. US Representative General William O Butler Kentucky next. The Democrats attempted to adopt an official party platform. It had a familiar thesis. That federal government is one of limited powers. The platform was an extension of the policies of James K polk but for many Democrats it was not enough when the party platform endorsed popular sovereignty. Things got heated. Uh It's May eighteen forty eight at the Democratic National Convention in Baltimore. The convention is in full swing and the Universalist Church in Baltimore packed with delegates. The chaired the Convention read from the Party Platform. Congress has no power under the constitution interfere with or control the domestic institutions of the several states as the chairman reads the words of the platform to Alabama delegates to together in the back of the room congressman. Pa Ray and Congressman William Lowndes Yancey. The chair continues any attempt to induce Congress to interfere with questions of slavery or calculated to lead the most dangerous consequences as he listens. Yancey is simmering with rage. He grits his teeth clenched his fist for months has it's been hard at work. Co Authoring a series of resolutions known collectively as the Alabama Platform. He wrote troves of ladders. Democratic leaders including Lewis CASS imploring. Foreign them to support him but to no avail next to him congressman Ray shares. ENC frustration. This platform cannot stand Mr Yancey popular. Sovereignty is is tantamount to surrender to northern interests. Yancey is face is blood red with anger. He's known for his temper flaw. That's moved him to violence and driven him to stand in a duel with a fellow congressman. But Yancey is smart enough to know that fits of rage do not affect change in the political arena. Only Wiley Acumen can accomplish that and I'm curious though. He is a strategy. Barring any objections the chair now moves to call unofficial boat enacting. His Plan Yancey rises to his feet. Mr Chairman UH chair recognizes the gentleman from Alabama on behalf of the people of Alabama. I would like to propose. An amendment proceed misery answering. I moved to include in the party's Hardy's doctrine the entirety of the Alabama platform order. Mr Janssen the Alabama platform has already already been thoroughly debated before this delegation. Mr Chairman Alabama asked with two simple things one that this body declare unequivocally that the federal government possesses says no authority to restrict slavery in the territories and two that the members of the Democratic delegation. Vote for no man president or vice president who will not ah promised to oppose the restriction of slavery in any four. Mr Hansen. As you know this body has already chosen. Not Mr Lewis. CASS the gentleman from Michigan in here to force selected above the protestations from the Alabama delegation must pledge to use the powers of the presidency to protect southern interests wonder in order if he will not then. This body must compel his cooperation. I only ask for a proper vote Mr Chairman so being mystery answering and as the chairman calls vote yes he takes a seat. The rest of the Alabama delegation stares daggers at him. I believe we've upset. Our friends mystery as I care or not Mr Today. We draw a line in the sand when the votes are counted. Yankees motion was soundly defeated to sixteen to thirty six. An Act of defiance Yancey and ray stormed out of the Universalist Church and left the convention protests in might be said that these actions that's where the birth of a southern sectionals movement. He drew a clear line between the interest of the South and the unity of the party. His dramatic departure from the convention was a symbol of the south's resistance to the winds of change and it was an omen of what lay in store if the Democratic Party and the country After the Convention Democrats were in a Tailspin. Many southerners in the Pro Slavery Block including William Yancey found the party platform intolerable. ENC would lead an an anti-castro movement in Alabama. He would abandon his party's nominee and eventually throw his support. Behind Zachary Taylor. His movement failed to gain national traction but it clearly we showed that the Democrats were not united behind a cast Butler ticket on the other side of the political spectrum. Van Buren in the barn burners. Were also looking for a new home. In Van Buren Mine Lewis. CASS was more of the same another poke a continuation of his expansionist. Anti Proviso Agenda. The Barn Burners would not support report casts. The little magician would have to begin plotting. His next move in June of eighteen forty eight one month after the Democratic convention the Whig National Convention convene in Philadelphia on the third ballot. The wigs officially selected Zachary Taylor as their candidate of choice. The WIG doctor their strategy Taylor was a second Washington Washington a political outsider. Who served the people dutifully just as he had in the Mexican American war on the question of slavery Taylor would remain largely silent? An attempt attempt to skirt the issue and keep northern and southern whigs united but while Taylor avoided slavery his vice presidential running mate former New York Congressman Millard. Fillmore had had to confront the issue head on in July eighteen. Forty eight Phil Moore was under attack a southern whig Alabama's John Gale had questioned feel more stance on slavery suggesting suggesting fillmore was an abolitionist. A dirty word in eighteen forty eight America on July thirty first of that month in an effort to quiet any controversy among southern pro slavery whigs fillmore wrote a letter to gail defending his record while he personally thought slavery was an evil. It was none of the federal government's Business Phil Moore wrote the whole power of that question was vested in the several states. Where the institution was tolerated? Fillmore was walking a delicate line. He needed to assure southern whigs he would not try to to a radical slavery while also paying lip service to northern whigs who largely abhorred the practice anti slavery elements in the North were growing tired. Fill Moore's brand of doublespeak doublespeak and even more tired of Taylor. Silence on what they considered the most important issue facing America. These anti slavery whigs found common cause with disaffected. Democrats like the barn burners in New York a new political faction began to take shape in the election of eighteen forty eight. The Free Soil Party emerged to push their agenda. They needed a candidate with national name. Recognition a skilled politician who could guide their burgeoning political faction and affect real change in Washington. They would find their leader in former president. Martin van Buren in August eighteen. Forty eight Hodgepodge of disgruntled whigs Democrats members of a small anti slavery faction called. The Liberty Party met in Buffalo New York for the first ever Free Soil Party National Convention. The free soil party was not a monolith. The Liberty faction advocated for the abolition of slavery but the majority of free spoilers took a more moderate posture. Slavery was an evil all but the real issue was the growing power of the southern states. The goal was limiting slavery and the South's power by passing a law in the spirit of the Wilmot Proviso as one disaffected whigs congressman stated at the Buffalo Convention friends. We must unite and take up the glove where the south row it down another free soil or proclaimed that true the anti slavery men must forget party memory and prejudices for the sake of the cost. The free soil convention was not a small affair. Twenty thousand atten-. Dis gathered to hear debates and speeches including one from a former slave turn statesman Frederick Douglass. On the first day of that convention free spoilers codified their political platform it was pro proviso anti-establishment. The platform didn't mention hot button issues. Like three fifths compromise or the existence of slavery in the nation's capital but even for the abolitionists in the Liberty Party the free soil platform was better than the deafening silence from Zachary Taylor and the cries of popular sovereignty. guerantee from Lewis CASS and the Democrats. The platform adopted free spoilers. Turn their attention to selecting nominee. Their choice was by all accounts and unusual Joie. One Martin. Van Buren was not a friend to the Anti Slavery Movement. At times he'd appeared indifferent at best and close examination of his record. Reveal politician Titian. Hostile to the abolitionist movement. Partisan who was quick about southern interest in the name of personal political gain as one free soil wrote. Mr Van Buren has some sins to answer to but the former president also gave the free soil. There's something they desperately needed. Credibility and name recognition van Buren also also held sway of the barn burners large chunk of the free soil movement in the end van Buren. Popularity won the day to balance the ticket and to assuage the concerns turns the abolitionists the Free Sawyers pick for vice president a decidedly anti slavery. Man Charles Francis Adams the son of John Quincy Adams Ironically. Actually one of Martin Van Buren longtime political foes. The Free Soil Party quickly adopted their slogan Van Buren and Free Soil Adams and liberty in the eighteen forty eight contest van Buren and the free soil would not have the muscle to win the election. But they would wield enough power to play the part of spoiler Martin. Martin Van Buren presence in the field would deny the Democrats. 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Now you can get a full mount unlimited access for free by going to the great courses plus dot com slash elections elections. Get your free month's now at the great courses plus dot com slash elections on October first eighteen forty eight the free soil friendly New York Evening Post Attack Democrats and whigs dismissing the the two parties as old and defunct another free soil. Paper called whigs and Democrats the pledged guardians of the slave interest but even as free soilders went on the attack in the press. They play defense as well. One free soil paper encouraged every anti slavery. Man to stand with Van Buren the desperate struggle for freedom and let van Buren political political past. Belaid aside wigs and Democrats warned in the press as well the whigs attacked Lewis Cass. His war record reminding the people that casts had played a part in one of the biggest blunders in the war of eighteen. Twelve the shameful surrender of Detroit. Democrats accused Taylor of engaging financial impropriety. Alleging that the corrupt General Taylor had taken illegal payments for his service in the war at the taxpayer's expense and late in the contest. The Taylor campaign was shocked. By what modern Politicos politicos often call an October surprise a bombshell letter alleged to be Zachary Taylor surfaced in the press. The letter read. Gentlemen I will not ought veto any bill that Congress may see fit to pass on Internal Policy Yours Z.. Taylor the ladder. which was widely circulated in the press was seen by many as clear evidence that Taylor would not veto the Wilmot Proviso if Congress pushed it through? It was a crushing blow to Taylor's candidacy and it damaged him severely. especially in the South Taylor. Supporters were frustrated for one thing avoiding the subject of the Proviso was the foundation of their campaign strategy for another. The letter was a fake. It's unclear who wrote it or who leaked to the press. But it's not a leap of imagination to assume that the letter came from Kasa supporters quarters in the south. The letter did significant damage. Even after Taylor supporters fought back in the press and denied. The letter's authenticity. Many in the south remained unconvinced and the letter might have cost him the election. If it weren't for Martin Van Buren and the free soil party in the eighteen forties. Politics America was changing rapidly in the eighteen. Forty four election. Two point. Seven million Americans had voted about seventy eight percent of eligible voters odors out of this growing engagement. New political factions emerged factions fed up with a political establishment and rallying behind to controversial issues. Two major parties largely ignored in the elections of eighteen forty and eighteen. Forty four the anti slavery. Liberty Party had run their presidential candidate. James Burney in eighteen forty Bernie received roughly seven thousand votes far less than one percent of the total but in eighteen forty four Bernie had won over sixty thousand was in votes in eighteen. Forty eight the free soil party picked up where the Liberty Party left off in the end. The nearly three hundred thousand votes cast by free. Spoilers were enough to sway the outcome of the election on Tuesday November seventh eighteen forty eight for the first time in American history. The presidential election was held on the same day throughout every state in the union years earlier in January eighteen forty five congress had passed a law that the Tuesday following the first Monday in November would henceforth forth be America's national election. Day Taylor casts both one fifteen states but Taylor won the electoral vote. One hundred sixty three to one twenty. He's seven Martin. Van Buren did not receive any electoral votes. But he won just over ten percent of the national vote in states like New York Massachusetts in Vermont. Free spoilers place. Van buren second behind tailor by forcing cast into third place in those key. States van Buren blocked casts electoral path to the White House and handed the election to Zachary Taylor but President Taylor had a colossal task before him. He inherited a divided country. His time I'm in the White House was infected with partisan strife over slavery and while as a candidate Taylor had tried to sidestep the issue as president he would have no choice but to confront it. It's July third eighteen fifty at the White House. President Zachary Taylor sits at his desk poring being over documents. The weight of the office has clearly taken its toll as Taylor looks weary and frail. He's deeply troubled by an issue that threatens to obliterate the fragile peace. He's holding the country together a boundary dispute between Texas and the US territory of New Mexico. Texas has claimed part of New Mexico's eastern border a few weeks back. Taylor ask Congress to protect New Mexico's interests but the pro slavery crowd was none too happy. Mr President without so much as knock to southern Congressmen burst into Taylor's Office Robert Tombs and Alexander Stevens. Do they not teach you to knock in Georgia. Mr President on behalf of the people of Georgia Mr a tune in I demand your audience Mr Stevens Mr Tombs. There are many proper channels to secure an audience with the president of the United States. I assure you barging into his office is not one of them. But Stevens doesn't Back Down Mr President as you. Well know the New Mexico territory is in the process of adopting a constitution. Which prohibits slavery avery? Yes I am aware of that. Is it not Mr Stevens. The prerogative of the people of New Mexico to decide the slavery question for themselves. Is that not in keeping with the the principles of your Democratic Party. Of course Mr President but it is not the prerogative of the president to play favorites in matters such as these nor is it his perogatives disadvantaged and his Texas for no other reason that she is friendly to the institution of slavery. Your concerns are noted Gentlemen Tomb steps forward Mr President Texas must auspey allowed her own boundaries. Taylor keeps his cool. He musters the strength. Stan I've made my views on the matter. Well known gentleman once you ask a deviation of whig principles and is a betrayal of those who elected me to hold this office. That is the end of the discussion. Mr President this conversation is over over. Gentlemen as the congressman head for the door. Stevens leaves Taylor with a final word of warning. You may do as you please Mr President but if you proceed with his course first the people of the south will never forgive you during Taylor's presidency sectional tensions over the Question Question of slavery reached a boiling point for many southern men like Alexander. Stevens Robert Tombs enough was enough Stevens. ENTOMBS would become leaders in the section enlist movement in the south. They would push for secession and they would go on to become vice. President Secretary of State of the confederacy Zachary Taylor had hoped to cool the growing tensions over slavery and unite the country round his presidency. He would never get the chance in July of eighteen fifty just sixteen months into his term tragedy would strike on July fourth day after Stevens. ENTOMBS barged into Taylor's office. The president returned to the White House. After a long day of glad-handing public appearances and a visit to the site of what would become the Washington monument thirsty and hungry tailored drink water if legends to be believed eight a Big Bowl of cherries to satisfy his empty stomach not long after he fell. Ill racked by sharp abdominal pain. Five days later. The Baltimore Sun reported on Taylor's condition. We regret to learn that the indisposition President Taylor yesterday assumed alarming character the next day the Sun announced the tragic news of Taylor's death riding the the nation will mourn the departure of a hero and patriot. Sonko Taylor's final words. I am ready to meet death. I have endeavoured faithfully discharge my duty. I'm sorry to leave my friends three days later. The Sun's reporting took on a conspiratorial tone. One dispatch read. There were other causes besides merely eating king and drinking that operated fatally upon his system. The Sun reported that on July third to southern L. trysts barge into Taylor's chambers and threatened him the insinuation relation with clear Taylor had been assassinated if not by Stevens entombs directly then by friends of the southern 'cause though most contemporaries rejected the notion. That Taylor Taylor had been assassinated. A cloud of suspicion hung over his death for well over a century in one thousand nine hundred ninety one. Taylor's body was zoomed and examined by the State of Kentucky. Medical Medical Examiner. Put the question to rest concluding it is my opinion that President Zachary Taylor was not poisoned. After Taylor's tragic death the Baltimore Sun wrote of his successor. Mr Fillmore brings to the chair of office. A wealth of experience judgment in consummate prudence Millard fillmore. The often mocked comptroller from New York would need every ounce of judgment and prudence he could muster to prevent the fracturing country from tearing itself apart during Phil More Time in the White House sectional tensions over the issue of slavery only interest fill more would try to forge consensus between the two warring factions but his attempts to bring the two sides together would only push the nation in closer to the brink of civil war next on wicked game the election of eighteen fifty to the compromise of eighteen fifty signed signed into law by President Millard. Fillmore further divides divided nation and leaves both parties searching for new leaders. Don't miss a single week of our march from seventeen eighty nine to twenty twenty hit the subscribe buttoning your podcast APP now. This show is supported by you. Our listeners please give us a rating leave. 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1824, Adams vs Jackson: End of an Era

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1824, Adams vs Jackson: End of an Era

"It's summer eighteen. Nineteen in New York Group of politicians gathered in the parlor of private residence in Manhattan. But this is not a social affair it strictly business in New York. The Democratic Republican Party is fractured the Republicans. They often call themselves. Those are split into two camps. Those who support Governor Dewitt Clinton and those who don't the leaders of the Anti Clinton camp also known as the buck tales are. We're here to listen to vice president. Daniel D Tompkins speak. Tompkins is the buck tail candidate. Meant to dethrone governor Clinton in the upcoming gubernatorial election of eighteen twenty New York state representative. Martin van Buren the leader of the buck tail faction holds court. Gentlemen do you know what the two happiest days are in the life of a governor. Now tell us the day he's elected and the day he's voted out. What do you think vice-president Tompkins? He's far more palpable. and Mr Clinton to be sure who has an excuse me gentleman and buren heads for the front door or he can barely make out the shadowy figure standing in the obscure evening line. Excuse me Sir. Is this the home of Jonathan. Thomson Mr Wilkins. You you indeed. It's Martin S Wilkins a longtime supporter and friend of Vice President. Tompkins how do you do sir. How do you do Mr Wilkins? I do believe you made some strange mistake and coming here. This is the home. Jonathan Thompson is it not dated his. I am not mistaken. Yes Sir but did you see there is to be a democratic meeting here tonight and I am very sure that you do not go to such gatherings. That's true enough. Mr Van Buren I'm uh I'm sorry to disappoint you sir. I don't care a damn for your democracy but I take interest in the success of honest men and believe my own schoolmate Daniel D Tompkins to be one of that sort. Come here tonight to be confirmed that opinion. Well I suppose we have common cause and please Mr Wilkins to come in you. In the election of eighteen twenty dewitt Clinton would keep his governorship Tompkins would settle for remaining vice president event. He in Monroe would both be elected to a second term. But van Buren use of the word democratic in this late. Evening Conversation on the stoop of Jonathan Thompson Thompson home was no accident in eighteen twenty all across the nation. The Democratic Republican Party was beginning to fracture into two factions. Those who wanted to expand the role of government and those who wanted to limit the latter group made up of men like Van Buren was largely comprised of constitutional national conservatives and as early as eighteen twenty they began to adopt the label democratic over the label Republican though the Modern Day political party Cardi known as the Democrats would not officially form until the election of eighteen. Twenty eight might be said that its origin story takes place the Tumultuous Election of Eighteen Twenty Twenty four we could game is brought to you by Rosetta. Stone your phone is a marvel of modern communication communication. You can talk text type. Tap Watch listen stream and cast you want to communicate the best who will ever invented for that purpose is in your hands. The communication real communication with the world around you requires understanding listening and being able to turn ideas into language. Thankfully that phone in your hand can also also be the best. Communications learning tool ever invented with Rosetta stone. Rosetta stone is a language learning APP. That teaches you a new language not just translations and you won't be doing drills but being immersed practicing your pronunciation with Rosetta Stones. True accent training your ear while doing your chores with audio companion and learning to speak read and understand new language and manageable. 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The Republican Party was the only real option but this new breed of American would not bow to the master of of Party loyalty these up and comers looked instead to public opinion and on difficult questions such as the role of the federal government the opinions of the electorate were divided sided along regional lines in the north and mid Atlantic states. Protecting the industrial economy was paramount. Many northerners resented the south for the immorality Audi of slavery and the power. It conferred on them. This resentment was brought to bear in the Missouri compromise of eighteen twenty which made slavery illegal north of the thirty six thirty thirty parallel. The South's priority was protecting the agricultural economy and the institution of slavery fueled it most southerners viewed the Missouri compromise as as a prime example of the federal government trampling on states rights. These southerners largely felt the same way about national economic. Policies like protective tariffs the Second Second National Bank and federal infrastructure improvements and their minds. These policies healthy industrial north at the expense of the agricultural south. Alternatively heartedly the West still reeling from the economic crisis known as the panic of Eighteen nineteen was hungry for the government to intervene to improve transportation routes established settlements and to bolster their trade economy out of these disparate regions emerged five presidential candidates for the election of eighteen. Twenty four with their ascension the old political establishment crumbled and in its place. A new brand of American politics emerged this episode. Ten eighteen twenty twenty four the end of an era during the election of eighteen. Twenty four a newspaper in Tennessee. NECE- published an anonymous article lightning the upcoming election to a horse race on a certain day a jockey race would be run over the United States. Track the entrance Fi. Gratis the purse of the race is the presidency of these United States. Any horse could enter. Mayors being accepted as to weight restrictions actions. The horses could carry only what they could throw upon the NAG's of others and as the article noted there were five horses in the race. The Adams a stout stout buttered animal was a horse of lustrous ancestry. The son of a president and a distinguished implement John Quincy Adams like his father was anti-slavery impro- industry making him New England's candidate of choice the clay a supple jointed fellow was a bright and cheerful man with a stellar resume. The so-called war hawks congressman and served as speaker of the House. He'd also played a vital role in the peace negotiations that ended the war eighteen twelve additionally he had been instrumental in the Missouri compromise of eighteen twenty as speaker of the House. He advocated for internal improvements and higher tariffs to boost economic expansion. Listen his bold vision for the country which would come to be known as the American system made him the man to beat in the West. The Jackson a tall slim horse. I was exceedingly high meddled. A national hero in war veteran Jackson Tennessee favourite son. Threatened Claes dominance in the American west. And the Crawford. A tall majestic beast was seen by many as the horse to beat sprung from Old Virginia. Stock Treasury Secretary William Crawford was seen by many as their heir apparent to the long line of Virginian presidents known as the Virginia Dynasty Crawford. Stiffest competition in the south was the Calhoun Amir Colt. Scarcely Bright Allies South Carolina's John C.. Calhoun war secretary under James Monroe would later be known for his advocacy of slavery in the early eighteen. Twenty s though. He was known as a nationalist having fought for protective tariffs the Second National Bank and a strong military. If Crawford was the front runner her he was not the first one off the block. In December of eighteen twenty one calhoun became the first candidate to publicly declare and from the very beginning. Calhoun and Crawford Alford supporters. Were at each other's throats. These conflicts would range from the political to the personal and in the case of Congressman. George mcduffie. A family friend of John Calhoun loom. Things would even take a violent turn. It's Monday October. Twenty first eighteen. Twenty twenty two in Campbelltown South Carolina about two miles from Hamburg just above the Savannah River. Two men stand good distance apart sizing each other up. One is William Cummings a colonel during the war of eighteen twelve. The other is south. Carolina Congressman George mcduffie mcduffie and Cummings have Abdul twice before and both men are lucky to survive. mcduffie can attest to that as he has a bullet lodged in his spine from their very first dual but mcduffie. He is still not satisfied. Neither is Cummings. They have exchanged heated words in the press and among other things mcduffie insulted. Cummings by calling him a puppy mcduffie. Second looks to him. Are you ready Sir. mcduffie nods in the affirmative. The two men stand back to back and walk their paces this mcduffie times to faces opponent. He raises his pistol. Put his finger on the trigger but before he pulls notices something is off. Cummings is in a crouch is leg is pushed slightly forward. His knees bent irritated. mcduffie calls out stop. But he's second it doesn't hear him in time fire the ball passes right over McAfee's head his eyes flare with rage. I I said stop. This contest is over coming steps forward fiery in equal measure by God. It is not I am not satisfied. I was not ready on the first exchange. Mister Cummings it would be improper to continue shall continue sir. I shall not I say you shall. I demand another round of fire. You are crouched crouched overseer cowering if I agree to another round. Then you must agree to change your position. I will not change my position under any circumstance and this contest is over mcduffie. Walking away indicated that the duel was done but the feud between them was not one month later. mcduffie incomings met again in Campbelltown they again stood paces apart. Exchange one round of fire. mcduffie Duffy missed. Cummings did not and he shot to kill luckily for mcduffie. The wound wasn't mortal. He was hit between the shoulder and the elbow. His arm was broken. Broken and if newspaper accounts are to be believed it was nearly amputated With mcduffie cummings tools. The election of eighteen twenty four was off to a bloody and violent. Start as John. Quincy Adams would write the feud between mcduffie and Cummings originated originated in the rivalry between William Crawford and John C Calhoun for the presidential succession of James Monroe. An anonymous article in eighteen twenty. Only one cummings had lambasted President Monroe's administration including his war secretary. John C Calhoun mcduffie had come to cal- whose defense calling calling the article. The handiwork of ignorant men who were the tools of Crawford mcduffie incomings were both Republicans both were from the south and both wanted to not a southerner elected in eighteen twenty four but that is where their political similarities stopped. Calhoun was seen by his detractors. As an advocate for expanding the role the federal government Crawford on the other hand was seen as the champion of states rights and limited executive. But while Crawford and Calhoun supporters fought it out over the south South Henry. Clay and Andrew Jackson were fighting it out in the American West after the war of eighteen. Twelve the American West had seen massive growth. Thanks to to a booming postwar economy but the progress had stopped with the panic of eighteen nineteen in the western states. In the early eighteen twenties. Money was scarce. Trade was on the decline line and new settlements had stalled the minds of many Westerners The Washington establishment had ignored their needs for too long in eighteen nineteen the Saint Louis enquirer had written. It is time that Western men had some share in the destinies of this republic and to take control of this destiny. The West needed a champion. Clay and Jackson both wanted to be that man. The Western states were not an insignificant voting block but only if they were united altogether they had one more electoral votes than New York and Pennsylvania combined and in the event of a contingent election is strong likelihood with five candidates in the race. The candidate who dominated dominated in the West was well positioned to win in Congress Jackson's opponents. Were not naive to this possibility. Supporters of William Crawford argued that house selection was a repudiation of that essential defender of democracy the National Congressional Caucus or as it was called at the time King Caucus the electoral college as defined in article two section one together with the Twelfth Amendment of the US Constitution requires that each state nominate its presidential electors by a method of their own choosing. These electors are then free to vote their conscience independent of political affiliation. At least that's how it was supposed to be king caucus invented by the Jeffersonian Republican party in seventeen ninety six had changed that instead of electors electors voting independently. They were now expected to vote for a party's nominee a nominee selected by congressman in a National Assembly in Washington as a political strategy King Caucus had worked and with the help of this system. Republican had won every presidential contest since Thomas Jefferson's election in one thousand nine hundred but by the early eighteen twenties. The Nation was hungry for a more democratic system. One that didn't rely on Washington politicians to decide. The people were tired of their states states bowing to the will of Washington and they were hungry for a change on the state level. Americans had already begun to abandon another longstanding political tradition choosing electors through the state legislature since the election of seventeen eighty nine states had nominated their electors in two ways a statewide popular vote or through a ballot out of the state legislature. The state legislature method had been the most common in the early elections by the election of eighteen twenty four all but six dates had surrendered the choice. Susan presidential electors to the people. One of those six states was New York but in the midterm election of eighteen twenty three the people of New York were determined. Take their power back At that time the most powerful man in New York politics was senator. Martin and Van Buren Future President of the United States van Buren understood a political reality in America. The best way to win the White House was to forge an alliance between new ORC and the old south this method had worked for Jefferson and hit worked for Monroe. Both were Virginians and both had running mates from new. York van Buren Erin strategy or the combination as he called it was to bring together the planters of the South and the plane. Republicans of the North in the spring of eighteen. Twenty three van Buren sought to unite them again behind treasury secretary. William Crawford Van Buren travel to the south forging alliances with the old Republican leadership and galvanizing support for Crawford in April eighteen. Twenty three Van Buren traveled to Washington to meet with Crawford face to face and officially declared his allegiance that same month. Japan buren sent the New York State. Representatives the men responsible for choosing New York presidential electors a series of resolutions confirming two key points. One New York would support a national congressional caucus and to New York. selectors would pledge to support. The national candidate no questions asked. If New York work in Virginia combined their efforts Van Buren reckoned King Caucus would carry Crawford all the way to the White House. But what Van Buren did not account for was the change in political wins the growing anti caucus sentiment that would threaten to derail all of ambulance plans on October third. Eighteen twenty. Three New York's sixth ward began a meeting to select delegates to attend the party. State nominating convention later that month but at that meeting all hell broke loose. A crowd of protesters demanded a new electoral law. That would Jackson. New York's long standing legislative selection process in favor of a popular vote. The sixth wards chairman was forcibly removed and things turned violent similar anti caucus protests. Happened at ward meetings all across across the city and they worked as a result over half of New York's ward delegates were anti caucus men and at the nominating convention. October a riot ensued. When when scores of these anti caucus champions shouted down the chairman after the convention the Anti Caucus Movement began calling themselves? The People's men they gave if Martin Van Buren and the pro caucus cameras. Well the Albany regency in late October. Eighteen twenty three fabulous longtime nemesis governor dewitt Clinton Clinton wrote in his diary the reign of King Caucus is at an end. The people have taken their concerns into their own hands in the midterm election of eighteen. Twenty three the people's those men made significant gains in the New York State House and Senate enough to get the popular vote law to the State House but not enough to carry it. The rest of the way in Committee Friends of the Albany regency crippled. The People's men's popular vote bill by adding an amendment to win. New York's electoral votes. A candidate would have to achieve immaturity of the total votes with so many candidates in the race the reasons he knew that outcome was highly unlikely. And if no majority was achieved New York would forfeit offit its electoral vote. Therefore the bill never stood a chance and that was the entire point in a stroke of clever politics. The State House was paying lip service to the Anti Caucus Movement while sentencing. The bill to death in the State Senate as bill passed the State House but the state Senate shot it down. Albany had maintained it's grip on power the legislature would decide the electors not the people but the democratic wave sweeping across the nation would not die in the New York State Assembly in eighteen twenty three anonymous essay titled Ladders From Wyoming Tennessee. Senator John Eaton asserted that a deep and fatal game was playing at Washington with the Liberties Thirties of the people to stay in that game. The People's movement would need a champion and then find one and a candidate who had largely been written off by the national political establishment. General Andrew Jackson wicked game is sponsored by by net sweet several years ago I was struggling to build my own small business. I said to my partner. 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Net Suite is offering you valuable insight with a free guide seven key strategies to grow your prophets at nets week dot com slash elections as nets we dot com slash rush elections to download your free guide seven key strategies to grow your profits next week dot com slash elections during the election of eighteen. Twenty four in keeping with President. None of the five candidates openly campaigned leaving their advocacy to their surrogates and supporters in polite Washington. Another type of campaign played itself out at dinners parties and fancy balls else. Senator Eaten the author of letters from Wyoming. Express his reservation about these social gatherings. Oh it is to abominably. Bad to see gentlemen electioneering cheering for this high office. Time was when the virtue of the people would have laughed scorn such attempts times alas are altered in December of eighteen twenty three Andrew. Andrew Jackson arrived in Washington to play his part in the game on January eighth. Eighteen twenty four. John Quincy Adams and his wife held a ball in honor of the anniversary of of Andrew Jackson's victory at the battle of New Orleans. Some nine years prior thousands of gas attended to honor Jackson. Service Adams was playing smart politics. It was a public show of generosity to an opponent it also gave Adams a chance to put to rest persistent criticism. That Adams was aloof and unapproachable. The ball was a chance approve. He was just the opposite and drive. The point. Home Adams wore plain clothes instead of Tuxedo but Adams had another motive for honoring Jackson. He needed a running mate and he was starting to like the sound Vice President Jackson but the ball atoms through had an altogether different effect. According to Jackson biographer for James Pardon the atoms ball elevated Jackson from the comparatively vulgar place of a meteor in the atmosphere earth. To the position of a fixed ORB in the ferment. Above from that moment he began to be thought of as a candidate for the presidency. Jackson himself would attest to the turning of the tide. I am told the opinion of those rose whose minds were prepared to see me with Tomahawk in one hand and a scalping knife in the other has greatly changed now I'm getting on very smoothly but things were not so smooth move in Congress. The question of King Caucus was a big issue facing them in the early part of eighteen twenty four the national congressional system had been successful for decades but he he was also clear the people were turning against it seeing King Caucus as a tool of the elite to stifle the will of the people. This turn of popular opinion was having an abuse affect in eighteen. Sixteen less than two thirds of Republican members of Congress had bothered to attend the National Caucus in eighteen twenty attendants had been less than fifty percent early in the congressional session. New York senator. Martin Van Buren had taken Congress's temperature on the question of National Caucus. What he found had alarmed him now? Less than one quarter of members in both houses pledged to attend then even been called for Congress to formally strike down can caucus but the vote. It had been delayed till later in the session. In the interim van Buren had hoped to rally congress around the caucus and his candidate of choice William Crawford but the winds of change inch were too strong for Van Buren in early February eighteen. Twenty four a majority of congressmen officially declared they would not attend a national caucus. Crawford's people pushed ahead anyway and on Valentine's Day the National Caucus was held in the House Chamber. The viewing gallery was packed with spectators. But the House floor or was just the opposite. Only sixty congressman attended mainly from Virginia North Carolina and Crawford's homestate Georgia Crawford walked away with a mere handful handful of electoral votes but a vice presidential running mate Albert Gallatin Thomas. Jefferson's treasury secretary and former US minister to France Gallatin ten would write that the poorly attended caucus furnace a pretense to attach to the whole the opium of being an attempt dictate to the People King Caucus was dying. As as we're Crawford's hopes of winning a clear electoral majority the people's movement had spread across the country and the People's candidate. Andrew Jackson would reap the benefits in the key battleground state of Pennsylvania. His gain would be John C.. Calhoun was lost Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania the country's second most populous state was a must win for war secretary. Calhoun the young dynamic nationalist had a lot to offer the keystone state. Kowloon's policies were very appealing to Pennsylvania. A state that desperately wanted to boost its industrial economy and build up infrastructure. In fact for a time Calhoun look to be the front runner among Pennsylvania's political establishment. But calhoun lead would not last long. The people were making their voice heard and Jackson their favor for candidate. A Senator William plumer would observe the movement in Pennsylvania was made by the people altogether and not by the politicians a few weeks before the Philadelphia Nominating Caucus Henry. Clay predicted. Calhoun will be often a few days time. The course of events in Pennsylvania has rendered that inevitable in. It is rumored that he means to lend his support. To General Jackson. And indeed the prediction withhold. Calhoun would bow out and in his absence. His supporters would largely really back Andrew Jackson on March fourth. Eighteen twenty four at the caucus meeting in Harrisburg Jackson won Pennsylvania. One hundred twenty four to two one Kowloon's race was over so instead he would focus his efforts on a bid for the vice-presidency Jackson's victory in Pennsylvania. Set off a nationwide wave of support. He saw gains Tennessee. The South West and the Mid Atlantic states of New Jersey and Maryland Jackson would also gain calhoun supporters in the southeast. He would ride the wave of public sentiment all the way up to election day voting began on October Twenty six eighteen twenty four when the horse race was over and the votes were counted. Jackson was in first place. He won ninety nine electoral votes. Forty three point. One percent of the popular vote Adams came in second in place with eighty four electoral votes and thirty five and a half percent of the popular vote. Crawford barely edged out clay winning forty one votes to Claes thirty seven heaven but none of the candidates had won a clear majority and as such the rules laid out on the Twelfth Amendment or put into effect for the second time in American history history. A presidential contest would be decided in a contingent election in the House of Representatives. The House would have to vote on the top three candidates and so in the final leg of the race. It was down to these three horses the atoms Jackson and the Crawford under the Twelfth Amendment each state would cast one vote with with twenty four votes total and ten states up for grabs. It was still anyone's race. Ultimately the man who had tipped the scales was speaker of the House. Henry Claim New Hampshire Congressman. William plumer would write is in fact very much in clay's power to make the president if he says Jackson the nine Western states are united at once. That's for him. If he says Adams two or three Western states fall off and Jackson must fail Henry Clay might have been denied the presidency but in the winter of eighteen twenty four he would play kingmaker. It's December eighteen twenty four. John Quincy Adams Office in Washington. Adams pretends to work to keep his mind off the news that dropped in Washington just yesterday speaker of the House. Henry Clay will will not stand in the contingent election Adams Jackson and William Crawford will be the three contenders but Adams can't pretend to work much longer. These have been a long online of busy stressful days. He has real work to do but also the constant stream of visitors who've been dropping him all morning secretary ams us is Robert P letcher a former member of the Kentucky House of Representatives. Mr Locher come in police. Can I do for you sir. Well Sir as I know you know I was the chief. Orchestrator of the census in eighteen twenty Adam size he knows exactly what Lester wants remuneration. Yes asked Mr Letcher. I'm aware though I must tell you. There's nothing I can do. In the way of additional compensation of course would never prevail upon you for money but but there are other ways a man can be compensated Go on I'd like to be named Marshal of Kentucky. Alright I will certainly take it under consideration. Thank you sir. Good day Mr Locher. But let your doesn't leave. He lingers is is there something else requires her. Well as I know you know sir. I'm quite close with Speaker. Clay we lodge at the same house. Oh is that right. What are your feelings towards Mr closer well however no hostility against I him Mr Clinton I know feels the same about you? He is spoken respectfully view. And he's not a man to feign sincerity. While I'm glad to hear it Mr Clay Hi is willing to serve you sir if you can also serve himself if his friends can be assured that he will have a prominent share the administration that might induce them to vote for for you even in the face of instructions to the contrary Adams shifts in the seat uncomfortably. He's troubled by the offer of a quid pro quo. So he doesn't commit instead. He politely wraps up the conversation. Well you've given me a lot to think about. Thank you for coming Mr Letcher. Thank you Mr Adams. All I ask is this conversation. Remain confidential of course. May I call on you again to discuss this further. My Door's always open to you. Mr Lecture Good Day Lecher and Adams would meet multiple times in the winter of eighteen. Twenty four on New Year's Day eighteen twenty five letcher called on atoms again and asked him if you'd be willing to meet with Henry. Clay in private Adams responded yes he would meet him. Whenever it was convenient on the evening of January I eighteen twenty five Adams and his wife attended a party at the Williamson Hotel in honor of the marquee? Lafayette off yet. The famous French officer. The Revolutionary War in a strange turn of events Adams was seated in a chair by the fireplace right next to another attendee. Andrew Jackson the two political foes sat and STOIC. Silence separated by an empty chair. The uncomfortable moment was broken when another guest Henry. Clay planted himself in the seat between them. Surrounded by the WHO's who of Washington Klay cracked a smile and a joke. Well gentlemen since you are both so near the chair but neither can occupy it. I will slip in between you and taking myself. The crowd laughed Jackson. smirked Adams was stone-faced. Oh faced later that night. Clay pulled atoms aside and said they should speak privately in a few days. Time Adams agreed and eight days later. 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According to Adams Clay mentioned that he had been repeatedly solicited by friends of Crawford urging him to vote their way. Clay Adam said wished me to satisfy him with regard to some principles of great public importance but without any personal considerations for himself and the question to come before the house. He had no hesitation in saying that his preference would be for me. Claes use of the phrase principles of great public public. Importance was likely a reference to Claes ambitious national program. What would come to be called? The American system in his journal Adams wrote the clay came to him without personal considerations for himself but it could have been clear that clay had great consideration for the furtherance of his political policies after learning earning of the infamous meeting on F street. Andrew Jackson and his supporters would cry foul they would accuse clay and Adams of quid pro quo. Clay would use his considerable influence. -fluenced speaker of the House to convince Congress to vote for Adams and in exchange Adams would make clay secretary of state the corrupt bargain as would come to be called old would make the legitimacy of the election of eighteen twenty four dubious and also make scandal of the future presidency. John Quincy Adams after his meeting with Adams. Clay did not publicly declare his intentions. During the first two weeks of January he worked behind the scenes taking meetings lining up votes and setting the table for an Adams Adams victory in mid-january when word reached Washington that the Kentucky legislature had told their delegation to vote for Jackson Clayton Flinch. He remained in calm and use his powers of persuasion behind closed doors on January twenty fourth just days after committing Jackson the Kentucky delegation suddenly reverse course and declared their support for John Quincy Adams the Jackson crowd was concerned but in their minds all was not yet lost two days prior to the House vote on February seventh eighteen. Twenty five Jackson's friend. Senator Eaton held out hope that Jackson would carry six of the nine Western states in addition to Maryland South Carolina New Jersey and Pennsylvania as eaten viewed things. Crawford didn't stand a chance of winning so if Crawford Southern States Virginia North Carolina Airline and Georgia defected Jackson. He would have thirteen votes just enough to win. But what did not know was that in late December Virginia Senator James James Barbour had told Adams that if it ever became clear that Crawford could not win. The Virginia delegation would back Adams. But Crawford was not out of the running yet. Martin van Buren was determined to make the best of a less than ideal situation in a contingent election election in the House of Representatives. Each state cast a single vote based on a majority of each state's congressional delegation but if a state's delegation cannot reach a majority the states vote is registered as divided and not try to any candidate Van Buren sought to use this to his advantage. Van Buren was confident that he could deprive atoms of enough votes to prevent him from winning on the first ballot. In Van Buren summation. This would give the Crawford block the power to sway the election and therefore to make their own quid pro. Quo Demands going into the contingent election. Adams was likely ahead by handful. Votes if Van Buren can prevent a few states from being counted on the first ballot. The Crawford Block would have the levers to ask for favourable terms from the Adams. Administration and Van Buren scheme would largely play out in the delegation of his home state. New York out of New York's eighteen congressman. The Crawford Camp had eight votes van Buren needed one. More vote to produce news time. He focused his efforts on your congressman. Stephen Van Rensselaer van Rensselaer had previously backed clay but when clay fill out of the running and rents leaders vote was up for. Grabs van Buren pressured him and made him promise to vote for Crawford on the first round and beer and orchestrated similar schemes and several other states dates including Rhode Island Maryland Louisiana Missouri but as the voting day approached. It was van Rensselaer in New York. who was having second thoughts? And in this time of uncertainty he would consult a higher authority. It's February ninth. Eighteen twenty five on a frigid day in Washington outside. The snow falls a group of spectators huddled in the gallery of the House of Representatives to watch the members of Congress cast cast their votes and decide the election of eighteen. Twenty four among them is Senator Alfred. Cuthbert of Georgia from the gallery. He stares down at the floor. His eyes is fixed on one man. New York Congressman Stephen Van Rensselaer. Just then Martin Van Buren enters the gallery. In a hurry. Senator Cuthbert Mr Van Buren whereas he catherine nods and Van Rensselaer Leaders Direction Congressman fidgets. In his seat agitated. He seems distressed. The matter is settled. There's no cause for concern. No cause for concern. I've just spoken to our friend Mr Archer. Mr Clay invited Van Rensselaer to the speakers. Tras Room just this morning play. No doubt trying to twist his mind toward the issue of Mr Adams. There's no need for you to intercede. I spoke with Van Rensselaer myself when and moments ago. He assured me that at no point had ever entertained the notion of voting for a man with the last name Adams as you know Mr van. Rensselaer was through his first wife life. A brother-in-law to General Hamilton had at an early age imbibed. His dislike to the ADAMSES. Familial loyalty is strong but not stronger than the power persuasion waged possessed by that speaker of the House. Clay is a beaten man. Mr Van Buren. He still has the gavel and he's still wheels it and a considerable amount of influence of the gentlemen of this house Van Rensselaer looked me in the eyes and swore he would adhere to Crawford Trust me. Mr Van Buren play his part godwilling. After his conversation with Cuthbert van Buren stuck around the House Chamber for the vote he watched from the gallery as one by one. The congressman drop their ballots in the voting box. The entire time ambulance eyes were fixed on Van Rensselaer who seemed ambulance. Words agitated and distressed Bentley are closed. His is bound his head in prayer on the House floor when he opened them he saw ticket laying in his feet inscribed with the words John Quincy Adams and Rensselaer would not vote with Crawford is he would vote according to this divine sign. Adam's name inscribed at his feet. The words of Martin Van Buren in this way. It was that Mr Adams was made president on the first ballot. Adams was elected president with thirteen votes Jackson received. Seven Crawford for the efficacy of Martin Van Buren scheme and Ben Rents leader's role in deciding citing the election of eighteen. Twenty four has perhaps been overstated. Van Buren had tried to exclude from the first vote. Five States New York Louisiana Rhode Island Maryland in Missouri. But even if he had been successful in all five Adam still would have won. If am buren chalked up the election of eighteen twenty four to divine intervention. Andrew Jackson and his supporters would blame it on the corrupt bargain made by Henry. Clay and John Quincy Adams. Jackson had failed to win the electoral vote but he won the popular popular contest. And Jackson felt that clay Adams through their dubious backroom deal had conspired to defy the will of the people and steal the presidency from Jackson publicly Jackson on a good face less than a week after the final vote Jackson and Adams Cross paths at a Farewell Party for President Monroe. The two men were a polite and even shook hands privately. Though Jackson was outraged the next day he would write to a friend adviser. The Judas of the West has closed the contract contract more. See The thirty pieces of silver is end will be the same. was there ever witnessed such a barefaced corruption in any country before only a short work period. Later Jackson. Suspicions were confirmed. When Adams nominated Klay Secretary of state the result of the eighteen twenty four election would be the and the democratic Republican Party? It would die and in its place. Tune parties would be born. The West would unite with the south and with northern conservatives. Like Martin Van Buren to officially form the Democratic Party. The same party. That's around today. Moderates like John Quincy Adams would join the remnants of the federalist Party to form the National Republican Party going forward it would be these two factions in opposition in the election of eighteen twenty. Four John Quincy Adams had won the bow now but in the election of eighteen twenty eight Andrew Jackson would win the war his ascension to the White House would mark the beginning of a new era in American politics. The age of the Washington elite would come to an end and in its place. Age of Jackson would rise on the next episode of they can game the election of eighteen. Twenty eight Andrew Jackson's path to the White House is littered with adversity animus and political scandals that will rock his campaign and Soyuz his reputation. 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1836, Van Buren vs. the Whigs: Sin on the Ballot

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1836, Van Buren vs. the Whigs: Sin on the Ballot

"It's just before nine PM. On September Twelfth Eighteen Twenty six at a local jail and Canandaigua New York the jailers alerts way on business so his wife. Mrs Mary W Hall is left. Fend for herself and watch over the prisoners. It's a quiet night until the door opens. How do you do? Ma'am this is home. Response with apply. Curtsy how do you do Mrs Hall. My name is Mr Latin Lawson is your husband away. Ma'am yes sir. You'll be back shortly though while I'm afraid I'm in a bit of a hurry if it's all right I'd like to speak with one of your prisoners. Captain William Morgan. Morgan was brought to jail just yesterday on charges of thievery charges. He's adamantly denied ever since he set foot in his cell. Would it be all right if I spoke with Mr Morgan and private Mrs Hall Hesitates. Mr Lawson looks harmless enough. He's well dressed well spoken but there's something about him though something peculiar she can't quite put our finger on it. I'll only be a moment. Ma'am I assure you reluctantly. She agrees and leads. Mr Lawson to the cell where Captain Morgan and sits on the bench. His wrists bound Lawson peers at him through the bars of the jail cell and turns to Mrs Hall. I'd like to speak with him alone please. Of course I. Mrs Hall starts to retreat to the front room. Something in her got stopped her short she keeps her distance leans into here. The hush conversation What say you Mr Morgan innocent? I understand if you will allow me. I will pay your debt and I will take you out of here when tonight or go with me Sir. Yes yes I just need a few moments to discuss it with the jailer's wife hearing her name Mrs Hall Quickly Busies Herself in the front room arrange papers and on cluttering her husband's desk Mr Lawson enters. I'd like to pay for this man's release sir. Whatever the cost of the claim whatever the cost your husband I will meet the price? Well you'll have to speak with him. Shirley we can come to an agreement Mrs Hall loss pulls out his wallet and flashes her a large large stack of cash. I said my husband will be back shortly. I suppose alwaleed then but Lawson didn't wait. He laughed and came back back with even more money and two more men. The three of them pressured Mrs Hall and coerced her into letting Morgan go on the evening September twelfth. She unlocked prison prison door. Loss and quickly led Morgan outside where a carriage was weighing. But before Mrs Hall could even close the jail door. She heard cries in the streets. She looked outside and saw captain Morgan's struggling with the three men. They forced him into the carriage and drove him to nearby Fort Niagara there. He mysteriously sleep disappeared. Morgan would never be seen or heard from again. Is believe Morgan was abducted and murdered by an influential. Fraternal Society. Called the freemasons freemasons. Morgan was a freemason himself but shortly before his dubious arrest Morgan had announced his intentions to publish a tell. All book exposing the secrets of Freemasonry Morgan's disappearance was more than just a mystery though it gave rise to political movement arguably the first third party in American political history. The Anti Masons we game is brought to you if by Rosetta Stone. Your phone is a marvel of modern communication. You can talk text type tap watch listen stream and cast if you want to communicate the best tool ever invented for that purpose is in your hands. But communication real communication with the world around you requires understanding listening and being able to turn turn ideas into language. Thankfully that phone in your hand can also be the best. Communications learning tool ever invented with Rosetta stone. Rosetta stone is a language learning earning APP. That teaches you a new language not just translations and you won't be doing drills but being immersed practicing your pronunciation with Rosetta Stones. True accent training in your ear while doing your chores with audio companion and learning to speak read and understand a new language and manageable five to ten minute lessons on your own time at your own pace Mac or pc iphone or android Rosetta stone sinks across devices anytime anywhere learning. Find your key to unlocking new languages and great great holiday specials at Rosetta Stone Dot Com gift. It keep it for yourself or do a little bit of both with the best deals of the holiday and Rosetta Stone. Dot Com I'm Lindsey Graham in. This is American elections. Wicked game In the election of eighteen thirty six there were two major political parties. The well established pro Jackson. Democrats and the newly formed wigs. The whigs were not yet a fully formed party with national dimension. They were born out of the ashes of the National Republican faction a successor source to the federalist Party of John Adams and Alexander Hamilton. They were a hodgepodge of conflicting political ideas. Still The whigs agreed. But on one point as President Andrew Jackson had gone too far and expanding the power of the presidency during his tenure in the White House President Andrew Jackson and went to war with the Second Bank of the United States. Blocking its re-charter Jackson's Bank war gave rise to strong resistance especially in the north and it became a rallying cry for the Whig Party the whigs coalesced around a unifying principle congress. Not The president should control the reins of power but in the eighteen thirties. There was was another anti-jackson movement on the rise the Anti masons arguably the first third party in US history initially the anti masons formed around a single issue destroying the freemasons a secret society they deemed dangerous to democracy in eighteen. Thirty six three men who had served as US presidents were known to be members. Here's George Washington. James Monroe and the current president Andrew Jackson in the run up to the eighteen thirty six contests the whigs and the Anti Masons I would find common cause in their opposition to the man they called King Andrew the first but Jackson would not be on the ballot in eighteen thirty six. He would uphold tradition and step aside aside at the end of his second term. What his legacy would be at issue in the eighteen thirty six contests Jackson's chosen successor? Martin van Buren would go to the war with the Anti Mason Wing coalition to defeat them. He would seek to bridge growing divide in the Democratic Party over a controversial issue a threatened to wound his campaign slavery. This is episode thirteen. Eighteen thirty six sin on the ballot. It's January eighteen thirty one. The Washington residents of Secretary of State Martin Van Buren dozens of ladies and gentlemen are gathered for a social social occasion. Bam Barron's weekly Dinner Party as always. It's a WHO's who of Washington among the guests are a slew of power players in Congress including Felix. Grundy WPRO Jackson Senator from Tennessee and his wife has van Buren hobnobs with crown from the pulse. Him Assign Mr Van der Shame about the weather center. The snow has been unbearable. I prefer to hold these weekly dinner Saturday evenings but sadly the the weather left me no choice but to reschedule. Still a delightful turnout yes. Everyone seems to be enjoying themselves. Well not everyone. Grundy gestures across the room to a long face. Guest Jackson's Vice President John C Calhoun of South Carolina. Oh excuse me Mr Grungy. I wasn't expecting vice president. I'm a shake his hand and invite him to sit with me. Anyone who is anyone in Washington will be here tonight so it's important in the interests of Party unity that we'd be seen as friends well. Don't Spoil Your Fun. Van Buren crosses the room and Greece. Calhoun with a smile and a friendly embrace Mr Vice President. I'm certainly glad you're here. But Calhoun is curtain has response thank. Thank you for the invitation. Van Buren immediately clocks. Calhoun cold meter and he knows precisely why Calhoun standoffish. President Jackson accent and his vice president are at odds over a myriad of issues and rumors. Abounded Jackson will replace Calhoun as vice president in the upcoming election of eighteen thirty two. There are even rumors you plan to replace. Calhoun with Martin Van Buren as Calhoun scowls. Van Buren lays on the charm. I'LL ADMIT MR vice president. I'm surprised is to find you here. I despaired when did not respond to my invitation. My house has been poorly again. Calhoun is Kurt and cold and barren can see the conversation. Sation is going nowhere still extending olive branch. Will you sit with me and Senator Grundy at dinner Mr Calhoun. Calhoun doesn't answer. If you do me the honor of escorting Senator Grundy's wife to the ballroom and saving seats for all of us. I would be much obliged after a moment of hesitation calvin replies it would be my pleasure as soon goes in search of Mrs Grundy. Her husband's saddles up. Next van Buren. Did He Spoil Your Fun. No I asked him to dine with. Toss into escort your wife to dinner. And how did he reply. We agreed the vice president is going to behave himself or or so. It seems Van Buren in an Senator Grundy watches. Calhoun takes Mrs Grundy by the arm ness courts her into the dining room. He saves seats for all of them. But then in a deliberate snub he places. Mrs Grundy directly between himself and Martin Van Buren and Buren notices the slight soda. Senator Grandy who tries to ease the tension. Please vice vice president. Calhoun don't let my wife come between you. and Mr Van Buren without missing a beat. Calhoun cuts his eyes. Van Buren and responds. Believe me senator. There's nothing that will bring us together. Calhoun message at Van Buren. Dinner Party. In January. Eighteen thirty one was clear. Calhoun was no longer a friend to Andrew Jackson or his secretary of State. The rift between them only widened. When Jackson did drop Calhoun L.? Hoon and made van Buren his running mate in the eighteen thirty two contests in the years after the thirty two election. The rift grew wider. Still throughout his presidency Jackson. Push for controversial tariffs meant to bolster American industry in response though John C.. Calhoun and his home. State of South Carolina declared Jackson's tariffs unconstitutional and refused to enforce them. Projects and Democrats in Congress answered South Carolina with the Force Bill. A law giving Jackson Authority authority to use military force against South Carolina or other states to compel cooperation. Ultimately a compromise was struck and disaster was avoided but with the nullification crisis as it would come to be called poured fuel on the fire of anti-jackson sentiment especially in the south sensing growing discontent in the eighteen thirty six contests John C.. Calhoun would try to wrest control of the Democratic Party from the grip of Andrew Jackson and his heir apparent. Martin Van Buren to steal steal his party's nomination Calhoun weaponize one of the most controversial political issues of eighteen thirty s America slavery Slavery had been a divisive issue from the very beginning of American democracy but had largely been tabled in the name of compromise during the constitutional constitutional convention. The framers agreed to protect slavery in order to secure the south support for the constitution. The three fifths compromise which allowed slave states to count three fifths of their slave population toward congressional representation had helped achieve representational balance between north and south but he was a painful and difficult process. Founding Father John Dickinson had said acting before the world. What will be said of this? New principle of founding right to govern Freeman on a power derived from slaves the omitting of the word would be regarded as an endeavour to conceal a principle of which we are ashamed that silence shame hung over the nation from its inception Asian until the spring of eighteen twenty when the founders sin made its way into the heart of American politics after months of heated debate over slavery's expansion in the West Congress had passed the Missouri compromise a law prohibiting slavery in New Territories North of the thirty six degree thirty second parallel the Missouri. Sorry compromise had satisfied though almost no one for pro slavery advocates. The compromise had gone too far for Anti Slavery Americans. It had not gone far enough but once again compromise had forestalled an inevitable clash between the regions that would ultimately result in civil war. The other political debates at the eighteen thirties over issues like tariffs internal improvements in the Second Bank of the United States. Were on their surface debates over the government's proper role in economic development but to the south south these issues were part and parcel of the question of slavery as one Virginia Congressman explained if Congress could interfere in the economic activity of the Individual States. They may emancipate every slave in the country in the election of eighteen. Twenty eight almost. Every slave state had voted for Andrew Jackson in large part. Thanks to the efforts of Martin Van Buren Unite. The North and south behind Jackson's candidacy in eighteen thirty two Jackson had performed nearly as well but van Buren knew that without southern support. He's election in eighteen. Thirty six would be impossible and so in the upcoming contest to garner southern support Van Buren would have to defend his record. 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At an attempt to impose upon the public respecting them should be hazarded but van Buren record on slavery. Even even if well known to his friends in Washington was problematic to the south he was also a northerner from New York which made him potentially untrustworthy in his letter. Letter to Gwynn van Buren sought to put southern concerns to rest. He wrote that. Slavery is in my judgment exclusively under the control of the state governments. Fabulous letter by design was published in. Virginia's Richmond enquirer and widely circulated all across the south but while Van Buren sought to defend his record on slavery. John C Calhoun sought to use that same record to his advantage. In the summer of eighteen. Thirty four Calhoun wrote to a colleague as it regards the next presidential essential election. I think it may be assumed that the state's Rights Party of the south will rally on no man that does not openly avow and support their doctrines the south will soon be unanimous animus. Nay Experience has shown that when united they cannot be defeated. Calhoun didn't overtly stated in the letter. But he had every intention of being the candidate unite. Unite them so Calhoun used the Anti Jackson newspaper. Washington's United States Telegraph as a weapon against puree he sought to portray van Buren as a a friend of the nascent anti slavery movement a week man devoid of principle who'd cave to the demands of anti slavery fanatics but while Van Buren and Calhoun fought. Fought it out over the south. Another southern candidate made his presence known in the presidential field. Senator Hugh Lawson White of Tennessee. The first defacto wig big to enter the contest. The story of whites candidacy began in the midst of a power struggle in the House of Representatives a political battle that threatened to deprive ambulant of the White House House and to deny Jackson. His legacy June of eighteen thirty four Tennessee congressman named John. John Bell was elected speaker of the House. Bell had been a longtime supporter of Andrew Jackson. But after Jackson's election rumors began to circulate. The Bell had turned trade I'm Lindsey Graham in. This is American elections. Wicked game In the election of eighteen thirty six there were two major political parties. The well established pro Jackson. Democrats and the newly formed wigs. The whigs were not yet a fully formed party with national dimension. They were born out of the ashes of the National Republican faction Shen a successor of source to the Federalist Party of John Adams and Alexander Hamilton. They were a hodgepodge of conflicting political ideas. Still The whigs agreed on one point. As president. Andrew Jackson had gone too far and expanding the powers of the presidency during his tenure in the White House. President Andrew Jackson went to war with the Second Bank of the United States. Blocking its re-charter Jackson's Bangor gave rise to strong resistance especially in the north and it became a rallying cry for the Whig Party Party. The whigs coalesced around a unifying principle congress. Not The president should control the reins of power but in the eighteen thirties. There was another anti anti-jackson movement on the rise the Anti masons arguably the first third party and US history initially the anti masons formed around a single issue destroying being the freemasons a secret society they deemed dangerous to democracy in eighteen. Thirty six three men who served as US presidents were known to be members. George George Washington James Monroe and the current president Andrew Jackson in the run up to the eighteen thirty six contest. The whigs and the Anti masons would find common common cause in their opposition to the man they called King Andrew the first but Jackson would not be on the ballot in eighteen thirty six. He would uphold tradition. Step aside at the end of his second term but his legacy would be at issue in the eighteen thirty six contests Jackson's chosen successor. Martin van Buren would go to war with the anti the Anti Mason Wig coalition to defeat them. He would seek to bridge a growing divide in the Democratic Party over a controversial issue. A threatened to wound his campaign This is episode thirteen. Eighteen thirty six sin on the ballot. It's January eighteen. Thirty one at the Washington residents of Secretary of state. Martin van Buren dozens of ladies and gentlemen are gathered for a social occasion combines. Weekly Dinner Party as always. It's a WHO's who of Washington among the guests are a slew of power players in Congress including Felix. Grundy a Pro Jackson senator from Tennessee and his wife as van Buren hobnobs with the crowd on pulls Masai Mr Van der Shame about the weather. Either yes senator. The snow has been unbearable. I prefer to hold these weekly dinner Saturday evenings but sadly the the weather left me no choice but to reschedule. Still Delightful turnout. Yes everyone seems to be enjoying themselves. Well not everyone. Grundy gestures across the room to a long face. Guest Jackson's Vice President John C Calhoun of South Carolina. Oh excuse me Mr Grungy. I wasn't expecting the vice president. Shake his hand and invite him to sit with me. Anyone who is anyone in Washington will be here tonight so it's important in the interests of Party unity that we'd be seen as friends well. Don't Spoil Your Fun. Van Buren Crosses. This is the room and greets calhoun with a smile and a friendly embrace Mr vice-president. I'm certainly glad you're here. Calhoun is curtain has response. Thank you the invitation. Van Buren immediately clocks. Calhoun skull demeanor and he knows precisely why Calhoun standoffish. President Jackson and his vice vice president are at odds over. Myriad of issues and rumors abound the Jackson will replace Calhoun as vice president in the upcoming election of eighteen thirty. Two there are even even rumors he plans to replace. Calhoun with Martin. Van Buren as Calhoun scowls. Van Buren lays on the charm. I'LL ADMIT MR vice president. I'm surprised to find you here. I just spared when you did not respond to my invitation. My house has been poorly again. Calhoun is Kurt and cold and barren can see the conversation is going. I'm nowhere still. He Extends Knowledge Branch will use it with me and Senator Grundy at dinner Mr Calhoun. Calhoun doesn't answer. If you do me the honor of escorting Senator Ronnie's wife to the ballroom and saving for all of us. I would be much obliged after a moment of hesitation calvin replies. It would be my pleasure as Calhoun goes in search of Mrs Grundy. Her husband Saddles up. Next van Buren. Did He Spoil Your Fun. No I asked him to dine with us into escort your wife to dinner and how did he reply agreed. The vice president is going to behave himself or so. It seems Van Buren and Senator Grundy Cindy watches. Calhoun takes Mrs Granny by the arm and escorts her into the dining room. He saves seats for all of them. But then in a deliberate snub he places. Mrs Mrs Grundy directly between himself and Martin Van Buren and Buren notices the slight soda. Senator Grundy who tries to ease the tension. Please Vice President Calhoun. Who Don't let my wife come between you? Mr Van Buren without missing a beat. Calhoun cuts is at Van Buren and responds. Believe me senator. There's nothing thing that will bring us together. Calhoun message at Van Buren. Dinner Party. In January of eighteen. Thirty one was clear. Calhoun was no longer a friend to Andrew Jackson or his secretary of State. The rift between them only widened. When Jackson did drop Calhoun and made van Buren his running mate in the eighteen thirty to contest in the years after the thirty two election? The rift grew wider. Still throughout his presidency Jackson. Push for for controversial tariffs meant to bolster American industry in response though John C.. Calhoun and his home. State of South Carolina declared Jackson's tariffs unconstitutional constitutional and refuse to enforce them Pro Jackson. Democrats in Congress answered South Carolina with the Force Bill. A law giving Jackson Authority to use military force against South Carolina or other states to compel cooperation. Ultimately a compromise was struck and disaster was avoided but the nullification Haitian crisis as it would come to be called poured fuel on the fire of anti-jackson sentiment especially in the south sensing growing discontent in the eighteen. Thirty six contest John C.. Calhoun would try to wrest control of the Democratic Party from the grip of Andrew Jackson and his heir apparent. Martin van Buren to steal his party's nomination. Calhoun would weaponize one of the most controversial political issues of eighteen theories America slavery Slavery had been a divisive issue from the very beginning of American democracy but had largely been tabled in the name of compromise during the constitutional convention. Attention the framers agreed to protect slavery in order to secure the south support for the constitution. The three fifths compromise which allowed slave states to count three fifths so their slave population toward congressional representation had helped achieve representational bounce between north and south but he was a painful and difficult process. Founding Father John Dickinson had said acting before the world. What will be said of this? New principle of founding a right to govern Freeman on power derived from slaves the omitting getting of the word would be regarded as an endeavor to conceal a principle of which we are ashamed that silent shame hung over the nation from its inception until till the spring of eighteen. Twenty when the founder sin made its way into the heart of American politics after months of heated debate over slavery's expansion in the West Congress Congress had passed the Missouri compromise a law prohibiting slavery in New Territories north of the thirty six degrees thirty second parallel. The Missouri compromise had had satisfied though almost no one for pro slavery advocates. The compromise had gone too far for Anti Slavery Americans. It had not gone far enough but once again Dan compromise had forestalled an evitable clash between the regions that would ultimately result in civil war. The other political debates of the eighteen thirties over issues issues like tariffs internal improvements in the Second Bank of the United States. Were on their surface debates over the government's proper role in economic development but to the south these issues issues were part and parcel of the question of slavery as one Virginia Congressman explained if Congress could interfere in the economic activity of the individual states. They may emancipate every slave in the country in the election of eighteen. Twenty eight almost. Every slave state had voted for Andrew Jackson in large part. Thanks to the efforts of Martin and Van Buren Unite. The North and south behind Jackson's candidacy in eighteen thirty two Jackson had performed nearly as well but van Buren knew that without southern support art. He's election in eighteen. Thirty six would be impossible and so in the upcoming contest to garner southern support van buren would have to defend his record on slavery he would have to prove himself a friend to the peculiar institution and a worthy candidate to the people in the south in the summer of eighteen. Thirty four Van Buren wrote to Samuel Gwynn a prominent figure in Mississippi politics. Dear Sir I owe you an apology for not having sooner Aknowledge the receipt of your obliging letter. Twenty-sixth may my opinions on the subject of the power of Congress. Over slave property in the southern states are so well understood by my friends friends that I am surprised. At an attempt to impose upon the public respecting them should be hazard but van Buren record on slavery. Even if well known to his friends in Washington was problematic to the south he was also a northerner from New York which made him potentially untrustworthy in his letter to Gwynn van Buren sought to put southern concerns to rest. He wrote that. Slavery is in my judgment exclusively under the control of the state. Governments van Buren slatter. BYDESIGN was was published in. Virginia's Richmond enquirer and widely circulated all across the south but while Van Buren sought to defend his record on slavery. John C Calhoun Hoon sought to use that same record to his advantage. In the summer of eighteen thirty four Calhoun wrote to a colleague as it regards the next presidential election. I think it may be assumed zoomed that the state's Rights Party of the south will rally on no man that does not openly avow and support their doctrines. The south will soon be unanimous. Experience has shown that when united they cannot be defeated. Calhoun didn't overtly stated in the letter. But he had every intention of being the candidate to unite them. So calhoun mused anti-jackson newspaper. Washington's United States Telegraph as a weapon against Fan pure he sought to portray Ambien as a friend of the nascent anti-slavery movement movement a week man devoid of principle who came to the demands of anti slavery fanatics. But while Van Buren and Calhoun fought it out over the south. Another other. Southern candidate made his presence known in the presidential field. Senator Hugh Lawson White of Tennessee. The first defacto wig to enter the contest. The story of whites candidacy began in the midst of a power struggle in the House of Representatives. A political battle that threatened to deprive ambulant of the White House and to deny Jackson whose legacy Kazue in June of eighteen. Thirty four. A Tennessee congressman named John Bell was elected speaker of the House. Bell had been a longtime supporter of Andrew Jackson. But after Jackson's election rumors began to circulate. The Bell had turned traitor that he had abandoned Jackson listen and hitch his wagon instead to Jackson's longtime adversary Nicholas. biddle the president of the Second Bank of the United States Jackson had not supported bells bid for the speakership. Instead Jackson had thrown his weight behind one of his proteges. And Congress Future President James K polk and once the rumors about bells disloyalty loyalty began to circulate. Paulk in the projects and members of Congress went on the attack lambasting bell for his coziness with Bills Bank in response bell. Supporters importer struck back at Jackson's successor. Martin van Buren and in defending bell there man from Tennessee. In December of eighteen thirty four the Tennessee legislature convened back. The Tennessee Senator Hugh Lawson white as a candidate for president light bell white had been projection man but like so many. Others Jackson's Jackson's disregard for Congressional Authority had turned white against him so when the Tennessee delegation approached white and asked him to stand in the election he was happy to oblige judge and in early January eighteen thirty five the Alabama legislature follow Tennessee's lead and also formerly backed white for president that same month to pro white newspapers sprung up in Washington. The started amplifying whites candidacy and launching attacks and Martin Van Buren for Jackson whites candidacy was a personal affront. Tennessee was his home. State Jackson wrote to a colleague Philadelphia. It would have been regarded as slanderous six months ago if anyone had said that a leading politician in Tennessee would have been looked to as a means preventing union in our ranks. Jackson implored poke and his friends in Congress to preserve Tennessee from the disgrace of uniting with a piebald opposition to put down my administration my fame with it but there was little Jackson and his friends in Congress could do white would ultimately win Tennessee's nomination wig opposition. To Martin Van Buren candidacy did not just stop with Senator White. The election of eighteen. Thirty six two more major. Weak candidates would emerge each from a different region and each running on a decidedly anti Jackson platform and as these opposition -sition candidates sprung up all across the country. Andrew Jackson grew increasingly paranoid that his whig opponents were out to destroy more than just as legacy as the election. Action of eighteen. Thirty six drew near Jackson was convinced that his enemies and the newly-formed wing party were out for blood We could game is sponsored by audible. Traveling running errands got some time off. Work this holiday season. 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Thirtieth eighteen thirty five in the House Chamber in Washington. The Funeral South Carolina Congressman. Warn aren't Davis has just concluded. President Jackson stands in the midst of a crowd of statesmen luminaries and mourners. Old Hickory is sixty seven years old a shadow of the man he once was. He's gray enfeeble. His health failing him his hand shakes as he grips his cane and struggles to stay upright. His Treasury Secretary Levi. Woodbury offers a helping hand. Dan Are you all right Mr President. I'm fine as Jackson. Brushes him off. Woodbury discreetly places his hand on Jackson's elbow to prop him up Navy Secretary Qatari Mahlon Dickerson makes his way through the crowd presidents. Carriages Ready Woodbridge gently takes the president by the arm and gestures to the exit. Right this way Mr President and as Woodbury dickerson Lee Jackson out of the chamber. They do their best to keep him up right. Moving three men emerged from rotunda onto the front porch and head. Down the steps in front of the East Portico as they make their way through the crowd. Well dressed man steps in front of them blocking their path. Woodbridge Burri addresses him. Pardon me Sir. May We pass well dressed. Man does not stand aside instead without a word and suddenly he raises a pistol from his aside and trains it on President Jackson the CAP explodes or the bullet doesn't fire something in Jackson snaps despite despite his poor health and advancing age. He leaps into action. He turns his cane into a bludgeon and advances on his assailant. But the assassin stands firm half drops the pistol and pulls a second from his coat he pulls back the hammer and again the cap explodes but the gun. MISFIRES Jackson's advance picks up speed. The assassin trump's the second pistol and shrinks away terrified before Jackson Reaches Him Navy Officer Officer. In the crowd tackles the would be assassin to the ground woodbury and Dickerson Temple Jackson. Back Angrily Jackson Roars but alone. Let me alone. I ignoring this came as men in the crowd. Restrain his assailant. Enraged Jackson is forced into his carriage and as it drives away from the scene. A single thought Burns and Jackson's mind. He knows exactly. WHO's behind this attack? His his enemies and the opposition party the wings in January eighteen thirty five. Andrew Jackson survived the first assassination attempt of a president in American history. Jackson was convinced his enemies in the whig party were behind the attack. The fax ax did not support. His suspicions is would be assassin. Richard Lawrence suffered from insanity in his trial. He claimed he was the real king of England and he dressed dressed the part in a great shooting jacket. A black CRAVAT avast and Brown pantaloons. He told the jury it is for me. Gentlemen to pass judgment upon you and not you upon me at trial. Lawrence was found not guilty and confined to an insane asylum in Washington. The whigs were not behind the attack but Jackson was right about one thing. The whigs were determined to damage his legacy by blocking Martin. Van Buren path to White House. Hugh Lawson white had risen against him in the south now in January. Eighteen thirty five second. Whig candidate emerged in New England Massachusetts. Senator Daniel Webster Webster had been a reliable advocate for New England's interests for years he had been a member of the federalist Party and the National Republican faction and he had risen to prominence after the infamous hanes webster debate of eighteen thirty where webster had taken the south to task on a myriad of issues but most importantly slavery sorry in late January eighteen thirty five the Massachusetts legislature nominated Daniel Webster unanimously. His presidential campaign had already been up and running for months. He had raised a large sum of money and assumed control of a Boston newspaper. Th The atlas which was used to amplify his candidacy with Webster's campaign Heynen full tilt in the north and white in the south. Martin van Buren sought to wrap up his nomination at the Democratic National Convention and in the Spring of eighteen. Thirty Five Live. Martin Van Buren caught lucky break his main rival for the Democratic Nomination John C. Calhoun withdrew from the race. Calhoun and banked his presidential residential aspirations on the existence of growing prostates rights. Anti van Buren sentiment in the south but the spring elections in Virginia proved Calhoun had miscalculated. It Virginia's electorate restored the projects and Democratic majority in Congress and additionally the rise of Hugh Lawson White and Tennessee had dampened calhoun prospects vex as the southern candidate Calhoun was therefore forced to accept the inevitable and step aside later in May of eighteen thirty five. The Democratic Party held a national nominating convention in Baltimore. Hundreds of delegates attended from nearly every state. They upheld the rules. They had established at the nominating convention of Eighteen. Thirty two to each state had to vote as a block and a candidate needed two-thirds of the state's votes to secure the nomination with Calhoun out of the race van Buren easily won the required require two-thirds which made the real contest at the convention. The one for Vice Presidency Van Buren. Choice was Richard M Johnson. A war hero from the a western state of Kentucky. Johnson gave geographical balance to the van Buren ticket and like Jackson before him as a war. Hero Johnson had popular appeal. Johnson's supporters claimed that he had killed the legendary Indian Warrior tecumseh during the war of eighteen twelve. His campaign slogan was Romsey Dump See rumps. He dumps colonel. Johnson killed two cuffy but almost immediately after Johnson's vice presidential nomination scandal erupted in June of eighteen thirty five. The United States Telegraph wrote an article detailing. The manner in which Johnson had won the vice presidential nomination Tennessee had not sent any delegates to the convention when it was discovered that Johnson could not win without Tennessee's votes the telegraph alleged. They picked up some men in the streets and put him up to give the vote of Tennessee for Johnson because because of the convention unit rule this man off the streets cast fifteen votes for the entire state of Tennessee and swung the nomination to Johnson. Van Buren the article claimed and intended to put a slight upon Tennessee. But Johnson's dubious victory at the convention was just the tip of the iceberg. Richard M Johnson also had a secret it he had fathered two daughters with Mulatto woman named Julia Chinn a slave he had inherited from his father. Julia had died in a cholera epidemic. In eighteen. Thirty thirty three but the rumors about Julia persisted long after her death and so in June of eighteen thirty five. The Telegraph published a scandalous. Expose of what. They called the disgraceful nomination of Richard M Johnson to the vice presidency the article stated it may be a matter of no importance to the Mir political autumn Ententes. John's whether Richard M Johnson has been connection with a jet black thick lipped onerous Negro wench. By whom he has reared a family of children whom he has endeavoured it to force upon society as every way worthy of being considered the equals and the associates of his free white fellow citizens in matters. Not We say with. Mr Van Buren his his fellows. What may be the color by Johnson his wife or his children but thank God to the great majority of the people of the United States? We May with safety address ourselves on this subject with a full conviction that in their breast we shall find a response to the patriotic feelings which induce the appeal in response to the Telegraph. Half the pro Jackson paper. The Globe published a letter written by a man named Thomas Henderson. Henderson Johnson's longtime neighbor in Kentucky categorically denied Telegraph's assertion. The Globe went on to say that Henderson statement can be out for by the whole neighborhood. In which Colonel Johnson lifts the Democratic Convention never officially officially responded to the charges against Johnson. Instead in July of eighteen thirty five they released a sort of unofficial national platform praising. Andrew Jackson's policies inhaling van Buren and Johnson as the men who would carry them forward for the Democrats. No comment was the best comment. Still the scandal. Over Johnson's private life would not blow over it would play ambulance campaign and it would threaten to deprive him of the White House in July of eighteen thirty five. While the Democrats pushed their platform. Daniel Webster was hard at work. In Pennsylvania Webster knew that to win Pennsylvania he would need the support of a rising third party who held the reins of power in the keystone state. The Anti masons webster sent a formal letter to Anti Mason leaders. Pennsylvania Pennsylvania pledging his support to their cornerstone principal webster wrote secret societies should be prohibited by law. His Anti Mason friends in the states replied to webster that his victory in Pennsylvania was all but assured this was critical because Pennsylvania had particular importance in the eighteen thirty six contest. Especially especially for the whigs as Henry. Clay a WIG leader in the Senate wrote in July the Keystone State holds the election of eighteen. Thirty six in her hands. Many many whigs had hoped Klay himself. A week of national prominence would make a run for the White House but he never did and for good reason. Clay was a freemason. He knew this fact made him a non starter for the powerful anti masons but Henry Clay saw the viability of a different candidate. The third to enter the fold General William Henry Harrison of Ohio. Another hero of the war of eighteen twelve includes mind. Harrison was a winning candidate. Van buren running mate. Richard Johnson could he claimed he had killed tecumseh but Harrison could boast of a similar achievement. He had defeated Tecumseh in the battle of tippecanoe. Harrison's victory in that famous conflict earned him widespread popularity the nickname old tippecanoe Harrison had another trump card over Johnson. He was General Johnson. Just a lowly colonel. Perhaps most importantly though Harrison was no friend to the freemasons which gave him broad appeal in Pennsylvania as Klay wrote in eighteen thirty five if Pennsylvania will give satisfactory demonstrations of an intention to support Harrison it will be expedient under all circumstances to run him as the most available candidate. Against as Mr Van Buren in October of eighteen. Thirty five Daniel Webster was stunned when the powerful Philadelphia newspaper. The United States gazette declared support for Harrison. The Gazette Light Webster but they felt he was unelectable. His influence confined to the New England. Region Harrison though was a a popular war hero and had potential for national appeal. Even in the south it seemed Harrison Star was rising but WIG leaders understood that the anti masons aces were the deciding factor so before Pennsylvania. Wigs made their statewide nomination. Their leadership looked the Anti Mason Convention to point them in the direction of the right candidate in December of eighteen. Thirty five at the Anti Mason Convention in Harrisburg Pennsylvania Anti masons ditched Webster and officially nominated William Henry Harrison that same month Pennsylvania wigs met in convention and did the same as one week member. ruefully observed the decision to support. Harrison was decided by are masters the Anti Masons in the eighteen thirty six election. The pattern established in Pennsylvania was repeated in various states but with varying results for example in Massachusetts the anti masons and the whigs they're also joined forces but nominated Daniel Webster nationally wigs and anti masons came came together to defeat the man. They called the insidious Masonic van Buren. But they could not decide on a single national candidate. For some this was a result of the whigs infancy or their lack of organization as political party for others. It was a sign of clever political. Strategy Van Buren knew that even with the help of the Anti Mason's without a single national candidate the whigs could not beat him outright what he also knew. His prospects for the presidency might be hampered by the twelfth amendment the Twelfth Amendment of the US Constitution dictates that in the event no presidential candidate received a majority of electoral votes. The House of Representatives would decide. The election. Van Buren knew that the presence of multiple regional candidates could split the boat and throw the contest to the house where anti-jackson Anti Mason. An Anti van Buren sentiment was strong in the House of Representatives. Has Van Buren was fully aware the wings had fighting chance of blocking his path to the White House and champing next It might be said that the so called wigs strategy in eighteen thirty six was Nada strategy at all but rather a result of disorganized anti-jackson movement and lack national definition wigs fell on both sides of controversial political questions was like the second bank tariffs and internal improvements. The only true unifying principle was opposition to King Andrew. The first but whether or not there was a method it behind the whig strategy to put forward multiple regional candidates white webster and Harrison were taken seriously by the pro Jackson. Pro Van Buren Democrats in in July of eighteen. Thirty six. The Democratic National Convention released a statement. Decrying the whigs strategy to throw the election to the house. The statement urged Democrats not to secede seed from the ranks of their party and throw themselves into the arms of their political enemies of the three whig candidates white. A true southern candidate was the most problematic automatic in the statement. Democrats attacked whites candidacy saying its only purpose was to divide the Party and play into the whig strategy. Why it was problematic for another another reason to unlike van Buren his pro slavery views? Were not in question so in mid eighteen thirty. Six Martin Van Buren again made his case to the south off. He wrote multiple letters to prominent southern Democrats reassuring them that he was a friend to Virginia principles. But while Van Buren lobbied for the South support four he faced a barrage of attacks. The press they're primarily from the Telegraph van Buren responded by publishing a letter where he laid out his political views but in the long long diatribe which took up multiple columns. There was one subject that was conspicuously absent. Slavery for Van Buren privately defending slavery to the South South. One thing but publicly advocating for the practice was another and Van Buren. Silence cost him in August. Eighteen thirty six. The Telegraph Raked van Cambio over the coals. Calling him a coward too afraid to take a real position on slavery they wrote. The van Buren like a cunning man. If not a wise one. He chose silence as the best exposition of his opinions. The article also painted Van Buren as a puppet for Jackson's agenda. Mr Van Buren might have comprised the substance of his letter in a much smaller compass. We can put the whole motto in a sense I say Ditto. To General Jackson. The Telegraph also cast van Buren as an elite no better than a British lord and the attacks kept coming all the way through the election which was held from November third to December seventh eighteen. Thirty six and while the the country waited to learn the results the debate over slavery raged on in the eighteen thirties. Congress was flooded with anti slavery petitions from citizens they received achieved one hundred thirty thousand in eighteen thirty six and eighteen three seven alone in response. The Democratic controlled House had passed the first of many gag rules resolutions resolutions that postponed action on anti slavery. Petitions and silenced debate on the issue but in the winter of eighteen thirty seven two days before the electoral votes were counted. One Week Congressman. PRESI issue John Quincy Adams the only president to return to the House of Representatives after serving in the White House in early early February eighteen. Thirty seven Adams bent the rules in broke the silence February very sixth eighteen thirty seven in the House Chamber in Washington Massachusetts Congressman. John Quincy Adams has the floor a stack of dozens of anti slavery. Petitions from New Hampshire New York Michigan and Virginia. But there's one piece of paper in particular that he plans to use as a weapon. Gentlemen I have in my possession of paper from twenty the person's declaring themselves to be slaves upon which I wished to have the decision of the speaker. I wished to know whether the speaker will consider this paper as coming under the rule of the house. Adams's pressing the issue of the GAG. Rule deliberately baiting his southern counterparts into a fight the speaker replies. The gentleman gentleman has the paper in his hands. He is the best judge of the matter. If the gentleman will send the paper to chair the chair will make a determination as you wish. Mr Speaker in Alabama Congressman Job lawler leaps to his feet objection. Mr Speaker. This document must not go to the table under the rules of the House. lawler is joined By a throng of southern Congressmen. Who condemned Misr Adams? Virginia Congressman William Berkeley Lewis Presses for punitive action. Mr Speaker. The House should immediately punish the member. I I second. The motion Adams rises one last time to his defense Mr Speaker. It is my duty to remains silent while these resolutions charging me with high crimes are pending but as the gentlemen of this House have gone on consuming time in the house in such a manner. I also feel a duty you to show these resolutions for what they are erroneous. I simply Rosen my place and stated that I had in my possession in a letter from twenty persons representing themselves to be slaves. I did not state. What the object of the paper was Adams knows the papers object? It calls for the ratification of slavery but in a clever move he plays dumb. The gentleman from Alabama might find that the object of the petition is precisely what he has been so strenuously uneasily contending for so Mr Speaker all petitions should be received whether they come from the wealthiest individuals in the land or the poorest among us. I hope Mr Speaker that no distinction will be made in petitions in a free government. Blessed we make ourselves fit instruments for the abuse of a desk in the late eighteen thirties. John Quincy Adams repeatedly challenged the gag all in one speech. He stated you begin with suppressing the right of petition. You must next suppress the right of speech in the house. What will be the consequence? Then you suppress press the right of petition you suppress the freedom of speech the freedom of the press and the freedom of religion for in the minds of many. This is a religious question in which they act under what they believed to be a sense of duty to their God on the same day that Adams made his stand John C.. Calhoun offered a counter argument. On the floor of the Senate and less anti slavery petitions be speedily stopped it will spread to brings the two great sections of the Union into deadly conflict. Calhoun argument was was a portend of one was to come on February eighth. Eighteen thirty seven. Congress counted the electoral votes van. Van Buren won by a slim margin. Fifty point eight percent of the popular vote. He won fifteen states mainly in the north he took Pennsylvania but narrowly van Buren beat Harrison by less than five thousand of the nearly one hundred eighty thousand votes cast. In the past two elections. President Jackson had made a strong wrong showing in the South Van Buren didn't fare nearly as well. They're van Buren ran nearly even with Hugh Lawson white even losing Jackson's home state of Tennessee. A sobering fact that showed that the Democratic Party was no longer fully the party of Andrew Jackson. It was thought that the whigs had hoped to throw the eighteen thirty six contests to the house. US were unite around a single candidate and beat Van Buren. Their strategy failed but Congress still had a part to play in the election of eighteen. Thirty six Democrats in in Virginia refused to vote for Van Buren running mate in large part. Because of Johnson's scandalous relationship to Julia Chinn as a result he fell one vote short sort of an electoral majority so for the first and only time in American history. The Senate exercise the power of the Twelfth Amendment and selected the vice president on on February eighth the Senate convened cast their votes but despite the many strikes against him the largely pro Jackson Senate named Richard Johnson Vice President throughout vampires. First term. Johnson's personal life would continue to make headlines. According to the rumors after Julia died of Cholera Johnson took two of Julius Nieces uses as common-law wives before selling them off ultimately van buren would have no choice but to cut ties with his vice president and while the whigs lost the eighteen thirty six contest. They made an impressive showing especially in the south. That's in large part. Due to the issue of slavery in the eighteen thirties anti slavery sentiment was growing and in response. The south built fortifications around the plantation economy to them. Neither van Buren nor Johnson were true champions of Virginia principles in the eighteen thirty six contests the pro Jackson dominant seen the elections of eighteen twenty eight and eighteen. Thirty two had all but faded away in. Its place. What would come? I'm to be called the second two party system had taken. Root the era of the whigs and the Democrats in eighteen thirty six van Buren had won by the skin of his teeth in the eighteen. Forty contests van Buren would have another difficult fight on. His hands made all the worse by a devastating crisis. That would cripple the American economy. Van Buren Aaron's response to what would come to be called the panic of eighteen. Thirty seven would cost him in the election of eighteen forty and he would leave the door open for a whig candidate would made a strong showing taking thirty six general William Henry Harrison on the next episode of wicked game the election of eighteen forty the wing seek seek to deny van Buren a second term but to beat the little magician. The whigs take a page out of the Democrats playbook and unite behind their own man of the People General William Henry every Harrison. Don't miss a single week of our march from seventeen eighty nine to twenty twenty. Hit the subscribe button. PODCAST APP. Now this show is supported by you you our listeners. 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1844, Clay vs Polk: His Accidency

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1844, Clay vs Polk: His Accidency

"And it's February twenty fourth eighteen forty. One Supreme Court is packed with spectators. Who've come to hear what would become a notorious? His case United States the schooner honest or order. I said order. The court must decide aside. The future of thirty six souls primarily Mendy West Africans who were illegally captured and taken to Cuba Spanish slave traders during their voyage the west Africans revolted against their captors in commandeered the ship but as they tried to sail home to Africa they were captured by authorities. Now the highest court in America must decide their fate. The judge turns to the West Africans attorney and gives him the floor. Mister Adams you may proceed. That's former president John. John Quincy Adams son of America's second president while half the room reveres him the other half are ready to burn him in effigy for his abolitionist. Views Adams suppresses the room mate please your honors. I will have order in this chamber gentleman. Justice Story glares out across the audience. Another word out of you lot and I will clear this courtroom perceived Mr Adams. Thank you your honor. Adams takes breath the weight of the moment clearly working on him. He's spoken in the court before but never four. 'cause such as this he hopes age will not betray his passion. This court art is a court of Justice. I asked the court to consider what justice is the constant and perpetual will to secure to everyone his own right I appear here on behalf of thirty six individuals whose life and liberty depend on the decision of this court in defense of the West Africans. Adams doesn't hold back. He launches appointed attack against his political rival outgoing president. Martin Van Buren van Buren had tried to send the West Africans to Spain hoping to win in southern support in the eighteen forty contest but van Buren lost the election and today Adams is putting his presidency on trial. Is it possible that the president should be ignorant that the right of personal liberty is individual that no greater violation of his official oath to protect and defend the constitution could be committed than to seize and deliver up at a foreign ministers demand. These thirty-six persons that he was ignorant of this truth is willful and corrupt perjury to his official presidential growth your honors. There's a principle on which a particular decisions demanded from this court. Adams points to a framed document hanging on the wall of the courtroom the Declaration Declaration of Independence that document says every man is endowed by his Creator with certain inalienable rights. The right of slavery is utterly incompatible with any theory of human rights and especially with a right which the declaration of Independence Proclaims as self evident truths the moment you come onto the declaration of independence that every man has a right to life and liberty. This case is decided order order. Thanks to John Quincy Adams his skill. In the courtroom West Africans were set free the honest on case of eighteen forty one would become a rallying cry for the burgeoning cause of abolition and a dire warning to southern interests who wanted to safeguard their peculiar institution. The issue of slavery would would define the eight hundred forty four election and push the country ever closer to the brink of civil war I'm Lindsey Graham and this the American elections we could game In the election of eighteen forty taught. Martin van Buren a valuable. Lessen the old way of winning elections no longer worked Washington Adams Jefferson and indeed every president including van Buren refrained from openly. Mike campaigning over the years even as political parties became more sophisticated presidential campaigns were largely waged by supporters of the candidates in the press and behind behind closed doors but in the eighteen forty contest William Henry Harrison changed everything. He was the first president to openly campaign for the office. And the first I to launch an official campaign tour in part because of his aggressive campaign Harrison won the eighteen forty contests in a staggering electoral landslide. Beating eating van Buren handily and denying him a second term but Harrison's presidency was short lived one month after his inauguration all tip as he was called became the first president to dine office succumbing to an illness he contracted soon after his inauguration. Harrison's untimely death tested the constitution in created a power struggle inside the executive branch for the first time in American history. The power of the presidency was handed to vice president. John Tyler of Virginia Jinya America's first accidental president. This is episode fifteen eighteen forty four players. Poke his accidents It's April sixth. Eighteen forty one in the presidential office of the White House and president. Harrison's this cabinet has assembled for an emergency meeting to short days ago. President Harrison died of pneumonia leaving the country without a president and the cabinet in a state of panic. Daniel Webster Harrison Secretary of State does his best to calm the room gentleman. Gentlemen because no need to worry I have assurances from the acting being president than all of our positions are secure. I am sure he will say as much when he arrives. At President has never died in office before. Every action creates precedent precedent and test the untested constitutional clause of succession the men. Harrison's cabinet like many in Washington or racked with anxiety and uncertainty and just then the door opens walking in is acting president. John Tyler of Virginia. Good Afternoon Gentlemen. Sorry for the delay as you can imagine has been quite the ordeal this morning. Just yesterday vice president. Tyler was back home in Virginia. When news of Harrison's death reached him he immediately he left for the capital by steamboat in earlier? This morning was sworn into Brown's hotel as acting president. Please gentlemen said I hope this is a suitable location for us is to meet. Yes Sir it was our usual practice to hold conference here in Mr Harrison's office in my office beg your pardon Sir my office it is now. My Office is a not webster's that are lost for words before he can muster have reply. Tyler presses the point you see Mr Webster do do you think it proper to do business elsewhere for the remaining three years and eleven months of my term. No no sir good. Then it's settled webster. Stir in the rest of the cabinet or listless. They had planned out an extensive presidential agenda with Harrison. And the WHIG party leader Senator Henry Clay now. Those plans might be out the window window. Democrats in Washington or already challenging Tyler's authority as acting president and now ironically. The president's very own WIG cabinet is questioning you too now onto more pressing matters. I have drafted a few policies that I think will do well by the continents are acting president. I'm sorry to interrupt you but before we hear any new policy Halsey requests. Don't you think it would be proven to policy requests to who must I make a request to draft executive policy. I'm the President Afro. Uh Acting President Sir Secretary Webster Gentlemen. First and foremost I will be addressed from this point forward as president not vice president event and not acting president president as far as policy is concerned. I asked you to remain in this cabinet to provide the nation with a tranquil transition not to administer the country in my place not not in your place but in conjunction with you by committee or custom was that all measures whatever however relating to the administration situation where brought before the cabinet and their settlement was decided by majority each member and the president having one vote. I have one vote as as each of us will have. This is absurd. I'm the President Acting President Tyler stews Webster's defines in this very moment. Precedent event is being established. Tyler knows it is only courses to fight for his legitimacy. I Beg Your Pardon Gentlemen I am sure I am very glad having my cabinet such able statesmen this. You prove yourself to be and I shall be pleased to avail myself of your counsel and advice but I can never consent to being dictated to as to what I shall or shall out do as president will be responsible for my administration when you think. Otherwise your resignations. We'll we'll be accepted after the death of President Harrison. Perhaps the most important precedent said was what Happened to the office of the presidency article. Two section six of the Constitution accounts for presidential vacancies but the language is ambiguous in case of the removal of the president from office or of his death resignation or inability to discharge the powers and duties of the set office. The same shall devolve on the vice president and the Congress may by law provide for the case of removal death resignation or inability both of the president and vice president declaring what officer shall then act as President President and such officer shall act accordingly until the disability be removed or president shall be elected from the language of the Constitution. It was obvious to most most that the vice president would serve as president in to a new president could be elected but the question was for. How long did the vice president then serve as acting acting president only until a special election could be held for president or was the vice president now president with all powers thereof for the remainder of the term In John Tyler's mind. There was no doubt where he stood on the matter with Harrison dead. Tyler was the president in every sense of the word and he would act accordingly ailing but there was another question on the mind the Washington establishment. Who was John Tyler? And what kind of president would he be John Tyler. Junior was the very definition of southern gentleman. Born march nineteenth. Seventeen ninety in a gilded plantation in Virginia. Tyler was born of privilege. His father had been the governor of Virginia and a close personal friend and college roommate. Thomas Jefferson both John Tyler senior and Vice President Tyler had shape their political views after Jefferson. John Tyler junior had graduated in eighteen. Oh seven and went on to work in the Richmond Law Office of Edmund Randolph handoff. Who served as George? Washington's Attorney General Tyler had increased his already large fortune when he married Letitia Christian the daughter of another wealthy plantation owner owner and began a career in politics. Tyler had been a staunch supporter of Andrew Jackson in the eighteen. Twenty eight election but over the years. The two men had parted ways during during Jackson's presidency. Tyler had increasingly come to see Jackson as authoritarian rapidly expanding the powers of the presidency and trampling on the rights of states. It was during the nullification crisis of eighteen thirty two. That Jackson's threat of federal force against insubordinate states had finally ended tyler support of old Hickory when Henry Clay on the whig party to oppose the Jacksonian Democrats Tyler had switched parties abandoning the Democrats in favor of the whigs but Henry Clay and John. Tyler did not see eye to eye on every issue. Clay was largely in favor of the federal government taking an active role in controlling the economy of the country through a strong national bank tyler pose such policies believing adamantly in the individual states authority and autonomy but clay tyler had found common cause in their opposition position to Jackson so when Clay Push Congress to censure Jackson Tyler had supported the measure. He felt so strongly about Jackson's need for censure that when his home state of Virginia voted to force him to remove the center. Tyler had resigned. His Senate seat in protest. Tyler's opposition to Jackson had earned him the respect of many prominent whigs. The man like Henry Clay. Those same wigs. Put Tyler on the Harrison ticket in eighteen forty hoping tyler's presence would boost Harrison's prospects in the south and ultimately millie hand him the eighteen forty election they were right Harrison. One but for the WHIGS Vice President Tyler was one thing president. Tyler was another from the very beginning of Tyler's accidental presidency. Henry Clay and others in control of the WHIG party encouraged tyler to relinquish control to the cabinet. Men who who are loyal to the WHIG party platform traditionally all the way back to Thomas Jefferson presidential cabinets had held a great deal of power and authority. It was Andrew. Andrew Jackson the very man tyler despise so much that strengthened presidential authority and often pose his own cabinet. This put tyler dilemma. Does he see control to his cabinet and party. Leadership or emulate Jackson. The man he loved Tyler chose to cement his own authority. He would not be subservient to the cabinet habit or the political whims of Henry. Clay and the whigs in his inaugural address. Tyler gave what he called a brief exposition of the principles which will govern me. In the General the course of my administration the various Certian that was his administration was excoriated in the press in the House of Representatives emotion was called to a force upon tyler. The title of Vice President now exercising the duties of president though the motion failed. It was clear that no one considered tyler the precedent except for Tyler and after the attempted mutiny. At his first cabinet meeting on April sixth eighteen forty one president tyler set out to seize the reins of power and prove his legitimacy. It would be a hard fought battle on multiple fronts. Tyler's political enemies called him his accidents and refused to obey his orders. Many challenge the language anguish particle to and only referred to tyler. As acting president. Others went to work trying to establish a special election for a new president former president. John Quincy Adams called Tyler's assertion of presidential power a direct violation of both the grammar and context of the Constitution. Still Tyler would not relent. He entirely early refused to answer to the title of acting. President and even had all mail address to the acting. President returned to sender. If anyone wants to do business with the White House it would be on his terms or there would be no business at all in the end. Tyler Stubbornness won the day. His actions established the precedent that Vice President would serve out the full term of their predecessor. Tyler would later right if the tide of defamation abuse shelter in my administration comfortabe praised future vice presidents who who may succeed to the presidency. Mayfield some slight encouragement to pursue an independent course on June first eighteen. Forty one the debate. Over Tyler's authority was settled settled. When Congress passed a resolution solidifying Tyler's legacy as the tenth president of the United States? But Tyler's legacy was anything but a foregone conclusion Asia Tyler wanted to be more than an accidental precedent. He wanted to be legitimately elected for the office in the upcoming election of eighteen. Forty four however. His struggle for presidential power made that dream all but impossible his exertions to establish his own authority cost him his standing with the Whig Party. Put Him in direct conflict with the fairy man who had put tyler an office to begin with Senator Henry. Clay wicked game is sponsored by Ziprecruiter. It's a new year. The perfect opportunity to take your business to the next level by hiring the right people. But finding qualified candidates can be challenging ZIPRECRUITER DOT com slash elections makes it easy ziprecruiter censor job to over one hundred of the Web's leading job boards. 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Clay and the whigs have been fighting for National Bank. Since Andrew Jackson destroy the Second National Bank in eighteen thirty six with the loyal President Harrison dead. You'll have to try and sell tyler on the idea. Thank you for seeing me Mr Vice President Mr President President Sir as you know Congress has made it official Yes of course. Pardon the offense Mr President. Just take some time getting used to. I promise in time I've now been president a week longer than President Harrison was at his passing. It is my hope that the question of titles settled once and for all again my apologies. In fact Mr President it is your ascendancy to this office which brings me here today. His goal in mind Klay Turns on the charm and tries a little flattery. I wish you to know Mr President. I believe you have the ability to equal your predecessor may believe you are a true friend. His 'cause my administration was elected on whig principles. I will hold true to those ideals. Clay Bristles at the words my administration but Tyler is in the White House and if clay hopes to create a national bank. He must convince Tyler man with a pension for states rights. Klay walks delicate line. I have no doubt you will carry out the policies of the whigs Mr President. I believe or rather I should say I hope you will interpose no obstacle to the success of the whig measures especially those surrounding the question of the Bank I have no qualms about establishing the bank Mr Klay. This is music to my ears. Mr President in Washington Sir. Congress has the authority to act at the local level in the district of Columbia. They may charter under a bank here. If it pleases them outside of Washington I would think the constitution leaves further branching of the bank to the wishes of the states Mr President without the power to create branches in other states it will be difficult to attract additional investors. The bank would be insolvent. The states have the right to deny the branching of the bank if they so choose I will veto any bill that says otherwise. Yes you would go against the whigs veto such a necessary bill one drafted by members of your own cabinet. There's a word to describe that sort of behaviour sir. Jacksonian Tyler slaps his hand his desk and roars. I will have you know I supported Jackson's veto up your second bank and I will do so to your third fourth fifth breath and so on it goes against the tenth amendment. You are in full embrace of nullification you. The acting president the President Mr Clay Tyler stands and points toward the Capitol building. Now understand this senator though you and I were born in the same district have fed upon the same food and breathe the same air. We will never agree on this issue. Tyler angrily marches to his office door and flings it open as clay heads for the exit tyler roars. Go now Mr Clay to your the end of the Avenue and they're perform your duty to the country as you think proper so help me God I should mind at this end of it. Is I think proper. Good Day sir. At a cabinet meeting on August seventh eighteen forty one president tyler was presented a bill to establishing shing new National Bank. Nine days later he made good on his threat and vetoed the bill his cabinet. Many of whom had helped author of the bill were beside themselves. The the centerpiece of Henry Clay's agenda. Third National Bank was dead. The Democrats were overjoyed the whigs despondent but determined to fight back uh after his veto the bank bill. A mob of angry wigs marched on the White House. The posse threw rocks at the windows. Fired guns into the air and Hang John Tyler in effigy from a nearby tree the first lady who had suffered a stroke in eighteen thirty nine was limited to living living upstairs in the executive mansion feared for her life. Tyler was left to fear for his political future. His stubborn refusal to play ball with a wigs cost him. Wigs and Congress turned their backs on Tyler and the resistance didn't stop with the Legislative branch on September eleventh eighteen forty one at the urging of Henry Clay every member number of tyler's cabinet resigned in protest. Save one his secretary of State Daniel Webster. Ironically the very man who had I lead the cabinet in opposition against him. Tyler was furious Henry. Clay is a doomed man. He proclaimed but clay didn't see that way close on opportunity to deny John Tyler Tyler. His party's nomination and win the presidency for himself. On March thirty first eighteen forty two klay resigned his seat from the Senate to begin positioning himself for a presidential run in the one thousand four election estranged from his party and under attack from Henry Clay. Tyler felt isolated adding to his feelings of loneliness loneliness. His wife Letitia suffered a second stroke and died on September tenth. Eighteen forty two. It was the first time in. US history a first lady died in the White House. Tyler was emotionally devastated and he was politically vulnerable. He had few allies and even fewer friends sensing weakness Henry. Clay went on the attack. Klay knew that as long as tyler was an office the wings legislative agenda would end in veto they did not have the two-thirds majority to override him. If the whigs were to hold the Raines Washington Tyler would have to go so in January eighteen. Forty three Klay spearheaded an attempt to impeach and remove Tyler from office the impeachment. C'mon vote failed but clay was just getting started since he could not remove tyler he sought to make the office of the president. Irrelevant Klay led an effort to change the threshold of overriding a veto from a super majority of two thirds to just a simple majority. This attempt to cut tyler off at the knees also failed and not long. After after Henry Clay abandoned his crusade against Tyler's presidency instead focusing his efforts on winning his party's nomination in the election of eighteen forty four. Tyler's time in the White House was largely defined by one issue westward expansion. The untamed West was a land of opportunity decades of explorers fur traders and missionaries had slowly established trails and outpost that connected the United States to its territories disputed claims and neighbor Mexico to the West in May of eighteen forty three nearly one thousand people left independence Missouri to follow quite literally in the pass of earlier Americans to settle in the Oregon country. This marked the beginning the long and dangerous process of westward migration. The country was growing and it was only a matter of time before new new states would be added to the union. This aggressive expansion also brought to the forefront of national politics an issue it had managed to avoid for decades slavery. The trial of the Amazon had stirred the passions of both abolitionists and defenders of slavery. Like up until the summer of eighteen forty three Congress had managed to skirt the subject of slavery entirely Henry. Clay had led the effort to sideline the debate on slavery back in eighteen twenty. When you propose the Missouri compromise and agreement that all lands in the Louisiana Louisiana purchase north of the thirty six degrees? Thirty second parallel would be free. State's wwo south of the line would allow slavery in December of eighteen thirty five in order to maintain that peace the US House of Representatives had instituted the gag rule forbidding the house from considering anti slavery petitions these staffs were merely efforts. I delay the inevitable. Neither the Missouri compromise or the gag rule tackled the issue directly. The Nation was split deeply and held together by the most fragile bonds. John's in eighteen forty three those bonds strained to breaking when the Republic of Texas which had just won its independence from Mexico expressed an interest in joining the United United States in June of eighteen. Forty three John. Tyler was desperate to legitimize himself in the minds of the people as he learned from Thomas. Jefferson's Louisiana purchase nothing solidified a presidential legacy like expansion so he turned his focus toward annexing Texas. He found an ally in another former vice president. John C Calhoun of South Carolina. Calhoun was a states. Rights advocate pro slavery like Tyler and he would become come. One of Tyler's closest advisors in July forty three tyler discovered a plot by the British to loan money to Texas if they would emancipate their slaves tyler would not stand for British interference in affairs on the North American continent especially over slavery. Tyler began secret. Negotiations with Isaac Van Zandt the Texas Minister to the United States for the annexation of Texas but on August twenty third eighteen forty three Mexican President Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana threw a wrench in Tyler's plans Mexico did not recognize the independence of Texas. Santa Ana warned that if the United States tried to annex Texas Mexico would view that that action as the US stealing Mexican territory it would be considered an act of war and Mexico would answer with force as the election of eighteen forty four approached the incumbent. Tyler found himself without a party he was all but banished from the whigs and he knew he would not be their candidate. But this only further motivated tyler to pursue pursue the annexation of Texas. If he accomplished the annexation he might be able to earn enough popular support to either run as a Democrat or as a third party candidate undeterred by threats from Mexico on April twelfth eighteen forty four tyler was successful in signing with Texas Tyler Texas treaty. It promised to annex Texas into the Union as a territory as soon as the treaty was approved by Congress in trade for taxes seating all its public Lancy United States the federal government would assume to ten ten million dollars. A Texas is debt. The treaty also left open the exact boundaries of Texas and whether the Republic would be broken into smaller states on April Twenty Second Tyler submitted this treaty to the Senate where it's approval required. A two-thirds majority vote. Calhoun and Tyler plotted to use the issue to build public consensus among pro pro slavery. Democrats whigs first. Calhoun sent a letter denouncing Britain's anti slavery meddling in Texas to the bridge minister. The intent of the letter was to win support for the tree from southern Congressmen who be angered at Britain's interference but when calhoun letter and the terms of the treaty were leaked to the press. The public became convinced. That's the sole reasoning for annexing. Texas was the expansion of slavery. No one could avoid the issue now. A vote for Texas was vote for Tyler which was vote for slavery slavery the election of eighteen forty four had become a referendum on America's most brutal and shameful institution so we could game is sponsored by the great courses. Plus we're in the midst of our nation's third impeachment. The second was Bill Clinton. Nixon resigned resigned before he could be impeached. So what do you know about the first the great courses plus new original documentary going to the devil. The impeachment of eighteen sixty eight is the story of an the idea log populace president facing an adversarial congress in a time of unprecedented polarization. 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Though Klay play himself was a slave holder he and the rest of the southern whigs did not want to upset the delicate balance between the north and south southern whigs committed to put party loyalty loyalty above the expansion of slavery with a strong consensus. The WHIG party adopted an anti Texas annexation policy that same month. The opposition party gathered in Baltimore for the Democratic convention former president. Martin Van Buren walked into the convention. The clear front runner in fact he and Henry Clay had made a gentleman's almonds agreement to stand against the annexation of Texas in their public remarks. Van Buren clay or worried about the same thing. The issue of taxes and therefore slavery might spark sectional conflict not to mention war with Mexico. But when van Buren voiced his strict anti annexation stance at the convention members of the democratic. Radic party push back. They abandoned the little magician. Has Van Buren was called and began looking for a new candidate. It's Tuesday may twenty eighth eighteen forty four at a local tavern in Baltimore Maryland. It's almost midnight but the streets are bustling. The Democratic National Convention is in full swing and the hotels and Taverns near Monument square filled with delegates in a private room in the back of a tavern one three Democratic delegates. Meet in secret. George Bancroft and Marcus Morton of Massachusetts and Gideon Pillow of Tennessee as they sip their drinks. Mr Morton Leans in and whispers. Is there any hope to save Mr Bam Bernes nomination dejected. Mr Bancroft shakes his head. No I'm afraid not Mr Morton. The party wants to annex Texas. Come tomorrow I suspect. The conventional settle on Senator Cass of Michigan. He's been gaining ground. Since the convention started or help us cast stand a chance the new action I agree. Can we rallied convention to Mr Van. BUREN CY after. He made his views on Texas known. No there is someone who could unite the party. Well there is. Who might that be? Mr Pillow. Pillows stands heads to the entrance of the private room in closes the door. James K Polk Bancroft and Morton share skeptical. Look Speaker poke. He just lost. The governor's race in Tennessee for the second back in time by a small margin Mr Morton less than four thousand votes. His own people hardly support him old. Hatred US Mr Jackson's days are numbered. As is his influence over the people. I did not come to Baltimore to hear you give insult to Mr Jackson. Mr Morton did not come to Baltimore to support. Mr Poke became to support Mr Van. Buren Mr Van Buren vessel. That is sinking. Gentlemen you go down with the ship. You truly believe Paul can win if Massachusetts Supports Mr. Poke the rest of the states will follow suit but none of it will matter. If Paul can't win the election I tell you. Public support is behind annexation nation. So as Paulk Henry Clay has abandoned his Kentucky values. The southern waves are ready to abandon him more than a Bancroft exchange and other plans. But you certainly they have our attention. Mr Delo only one question if we follow this course what will become our friend. Mr Van Buren. I suppose you'll have to find another line of work After losing in eighteen forty Martin van buren wanted nothing more than to take back the White House but on the evening of Tuesday may twenty eighth. The second day of the Democratic National Convention. Three delegates changed the course of American history and deprive ambulance chasing a second in term after eight balance. The Democratic Party selected the nation's first darkhorse candidate little known former House speaker. James K polk of if Tennessee George M Dallas lawyer from Pennsylvania was chosen as his vice presidential candidate. The whigs immediately mocked poke status as a political nobody and and made their presidential campaign slogan. Who is James? K Polk. Paul was a lawyer from Tennessee and had more experience than the whigs gave him credit for he had served. There's a congressman for fourteen years. The speaker for four and had been the governor of Tennessee he was labeled young hickory because he was a protege of Andrew Jackson who supported the annexation of Texas in pokes mine Texas already belonged to the US the issue of annexation was the centerpiece of pulse campaign but it would also be the centerpiece. A piece of president. John Tyler's campaign who strongly considering a third party run at the White House but of all people his Nemesis Andrew Jackson Convinced Tyler Tobacco off and throw his support behind poke during the campaign Henry. Clay did his best to sidestep the issue of annexation nation. He was walking a delicate line trying to keep the whigs united. The less he said the better but on June eighth eighteen forty four president tyler prestige issue when when he tried to push through the Texas annexation treaty. The treaty itself failed but it succeeded in putting Texas and slavery on the ballot. A majority of the country country wanted to annex Texas and Klay knew it but he could not embrace that position while also appeasing a northern anti slavery faction of his own party in the end fearing during annexation many northern whigs abandoned. Klay the abolitionist Liberty Party and their candidate. James G Birney of New York. The accidents to the Liberty Party cost clay thirty six electoral votes and the election after the election. A little known WIG Congressman from Illinois named Abraham Lincoln Pine. That if the WIG abolitionist listen to some New York had voted with us. Mr Clay would now be president. Clay had run for the office three times this life. This would be his last attempt through his as long congressional tenure Henry Clay had earned the nickname the great compromiser but after the election of eighteen. Forty four he would forever be labeled with another monitor the great rejected and on December third. The House rescinded the GAG. Rule opening the floor of Congress to the discussion of abolition Russian and tearing the wound of Slavery Wide Open on December Fourth Democrat. James K polk was officially elected as the eleventh president of the United States. Out of two point and seven million votes cast. He narrowly defeated clay by thirty eight thousand boats. It was his pro annexation stance that likely pushed him over the top. The results the election revealed a nation deeply divided. Eighteen forty four would be the first series of elections where no candidate would win a majority of the popular vote a trend. That would not not be broken until the election of eighteen sixty four though he did not make a run John. Tyler did not go quietly. into the night he took the victory of poke as a mandate that the the people wanted Texas and on February twenty eighth eighteen forty five six days. Before Polk's inauguration President Tyler solidified his legacy. He circumvented did the constitutional requirements for treaty ratification by using a joint resolution of Congress and pass a treaty with a simple majority making Texas a U. S. territory in March of eighteen forty. Five Florida was admitted. As the twenty seventh state a slave state Texas too was admitted in December eighteen. Forty five further shifting the power our country towards the slaveholding South Tyler soon retired to his Virginia plantation. Feeling finally he had succeeded as president he had won the issue issue of Texas and in so doing he had caused his political rival. Henry clay the White House and at the urging of Andrew Jackson he'd helped give the reins of presidential power to James K polk doc but as young hickory ascended to the highest office in the country old Hickory was holding on for dear life in June eighteen. Forty five on a plantation outside side of Nashville Tennessee a minister stood above and Mac. It'd man on his deathbed as the man struggled for each remaining breath he spoke of his legacy. The minister asked him General Jackson. What would you have done as president with Calhoun the other nulla fires if they had kept on? Would you fought your own. Countrymen Jackson shocked the minister minister when he replies I would have hung them Sir as high as Haymon. They should've been territory traders for all time. Posterity would have pronounced it the best act of my life. Andrew Jackson was many things but above all he believed in an unbreakable union on June eighth eighteen. Forty five he died. Modern Historians Orange would say it was the to lead bullets lodged in his body from duels. Many years past the finally took is life. Light Jackson's old wounds. The unanswered question of slavery. We continue to poison the country from within until the very nation would be fighting for its last breath but in the meantime eighteen forty five would see the nation unite eight against a common foe. The annexation of Texas had made an enemy of Mexico and war was coming through that conflict. A new general would rise to national. Don't fame and political power. General Zachary Taylor who go onto command the battlefield and wage another war in the election of eighteen forty eight next on waking game. The election of eighteen forty eight in the wake of the war with Mexico. Zachary Taylor in the whigs get a helping hand from the free soil oilers. A third party political movement founded in opposition to slavery movement that finds an unlikely leader in former president. Martin Van Buren. 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"Gemmill Knowledge Science Island animated films in US presidents. They're the subjects in this ways. Quisling at your black spots ready for Quispe number three Hello and welcome back for quiz. Baid number three apologies in advance for the quality of today's recording. I'm well and truly stuffed up this week but I've tried to speak as clearly as I can throw out of no doubt that many of you're listening to this in a state of self-isolation while the corona virus runs the whole world rankings. So a hope. Everyone's keeping safe and healthy as possible. We've been holed up indoors for the entire week and notes a very strange time for everyone. Today's quiz the same format as always twenty-five questions over five subject rounds. But don't forget there are thirty points available as you can play your black spot cards on any nominated round before the first question of that round is asked allowing you to a double points on those finances. 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Dre and Cassandra Anderson Number Three which Birmingham author and poet publicly rejected an OB in two thousand and three stating no way. Mr Blair no way Mrs Queen. I am profoundly. Anti Empire know before who will only James Corden Co wrote and starred in the BBC Comedy Series Governance Stacey Number Five. What links the four previous answers in this round round to today's science number six DNA MOLECULE? What term is used for the two spirals that coil around the axis which is the hottest planet in our solar system number eight? What is the name of the scale used to rank solutions from zero to fourteen in terms of acidity or entity number nine? What is removed from water through the process of desalination a number ten what is the? Si Unit of weight ran three today. As it was some Patrick's day this week is on an island number eleven. Since apparently being driven by symmetric island is famous for its lack of snakes but which small mammals common to the rest of the British isles conspicuously missing from the Emerald Isle Number Twelve. The field is nine thousand. Nine hundred film starring. Richard Harris is the hardened Irish farmer bull McCabe but who wrote the nineteen sixty five play on which it was based number thirty which Limerick born? Tv presented provide a humorous deadpan for the BBC's coverage of the Eurovision Song contest for many years from the nineteen seventies through to the two thousands number fourteen. In which would you find? Current tool island's highest mountain number fifteen. To whom did Irish nationalist Joseph Plunkett get married only hours before his execution for treason in Kilmainham Gaol round four animated films number sixteen who reprised his role as the voice of move faster in? Disney's live action version of the Lion King twenty-five years after the release of the original animated film seventeen which so before by Art Garfunkel became a hit in in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine after it was featured in the animated version of Richard Adams. Book watership down the Brady. What colors of the three good fairies dresses in? Disney's sleeping beauty. The mid nineteen who voiced the title character of Stuart. Little in the movie trilogy of the Same Name Number. Twenty who is Tintin's seafaring pipe? Smoking friend route five today is on. Us presidents twenty one three US presidents have won the Grammy Award for best spoken word album. Two of these have two awards each but one leads. The pack with three wins. Is it Jimmy Carter Bill Clinton Barrack Obama the twenty two which US president would you find on a twenty dollar Bill twenty-three which US president was the first to have been a poise scout with twenty four to us? Presidents have earned the master of Business Administration or MBA degree. Donald TRUMP IS ONE. But who is the of a a number twenty five? Which president was the first to be born a US citizen? He was simply the only one to speak English as a second language. Some answers for this week's wisdom Radwan was general knowledge number. One in the game of thrones TV show and books. By George R Martin the main thoroughfare through West Ross is the kings road number to the long running British science fiction. Comic two thousand. Ad Has Joe dredd. And CASSANDRA Anderson as judges number three the Birmingham author poet. Who rejected the? Ob was Benjamin Zephenia before along with James Corden it was Ruth Jones that wrote the BBC Comedy Series Governance Stacey and five. The link between the previous answers is books of the Old Testament as king's judges Zephenia and proof round to science number six. The two spirals in DNA molecule and owners of double helix number seven the hottest planet in our solar system is Venus number eight. The scale used to rank solutions in acidity or alkalinity is the PH scale number. Nine removed from water through the process of the SALINATION IS SALT number ten. The SI unit weight is the Newton. Route Three was island number eleven the other animal the mammal missing from Ireland is the mole. The twelve the field was written by John. King Thirteen the TV presenter of coveted on the Eurovision Song contest was Terri Woken number fourteen. You would find. Current tool island's highest mountain in County Kerry a number fifteen Irish nationalist. Joseph Punky got married Grace Gifford round four was animated films. Sixteen it was James. L Jones that reprised his role as the voice of Mefatha in the live action version of lion king seventeen. The song performed by our Garfunkel for watership. Down was bright is number eighteen. The color of the good fairies dresses in sleeping beauty red green and blue the mid-nineteen Stuart little was voiced by Michael. J. Fox number twenty Tinton. Seafaring friend was captain headache round five. Us Presidents Number Twenty. One there were three presidents that won the Grammy Award. But of those it was Jimmy Carter that one. Three provinces to the twenty two. You'd find Andrew Jackson on the Twenty Dollar Bill Number. Twenty three the first. Us President to have been a boy scout was John F. Kennedy number twenty four the two. Us presidents that have their NBA degrees are Donald Trump and the other one is George W Bush and finally the US president who was born over the first be born a US citizen. Even those first language was Dutch. Was Martin Van Buren okay? Then that's it for now. If this quarantine tim much longer which it could well do. I'm thinking of releasing quiz earlier in the week If at all possible not sure yet but we'll see how it goes either way. 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No I meant within my own country I met people richer richer than me should have less didn't mean I should have less because there's hundreds of millions or billions of people who make less than me that that's silly of of course not I'm not the bad person it's Bill Gates or Peter Thiel. Those are the people that need to give more all right so. Do you want to get back to that. One percent point yeah sure so I think again. I don't know if this is I've been trying to put my finger on it and Tommy time. If this is strikes true for you I want to say something like Libertarians tend to want to make sure the process is fair whereas progressives want to make sure the outcome is equal. They might call it fair but they really mean equal and so people all of us these types of analyses but like if there's going to be a race libertarians in this analogy would be making sure that everyone's running the actual same length that it's like if it's if if it's a circular track to make sure that the people on the inside are pushed back further and stuff too because you know the circumference is different just to make sure that they're actually running the same hundred heard yards of its one hundred yard dash or whatever and <hes> and also that you know there's not hills and things not holes in place that kind of thing you know to make sure that the fair tax and everyone has a level playing field in one respect whereas progressives are more focused on the outcome and then what the Progressives we'll do though is they'll say well no when we talk about making sure the conditions are fair like if the athletes are all lining up at one guy has much bigger thighs. Will that's not fair. You know so it's it's just a weird thing of where you come in to designate. At what point are we going to say. Okay you know you're competing on the certain thing and yeah you have certain advantages going into it. The procedure itself is fair. It seems to me that's kind of where the where the dispute isn't so at the one percent and all that it's to me yeah. Libertarians <unk> are focused on. How did they get their wealth? That really is important because if they got it unfairly than okay the problem is the fact that they stole tax payers money or that that they relied on government coercion to restrict competition that sort of thing the mere fact that someone has more wealth than somebody else per se does not offend a libertarian at at least vis-a-vis the political philosophy libertarianism that's fine and affect other things equal. You want more people to be wealthy because that can only help I mean it's good for the wealthy people people but also as you said Tom I mean historically speaking wealthy people patronizing so called luxury items that paves the way for those things to become seeming necessities a generation later so I think that's the way you analyze it and in terms of society that yet it's tricky to disentangle if you're gonNA say like I take the the crop of billionaires and how many of them made their money justly. I'm not sure I haven't really looked at by certainly the new billionaires there's people from <hes> tech companies things like that. I mean that's yeah you can make arguments about their certain <hes> interventions that may be kept elevated elevated them or whatnot but when they invent some brand new technology that people didn't even know about in the nineteen seventies it it seems hard to say that that was due to taking from others I mean I saw something a few years ago where they are asking <hes> young people if you could receive a million dollars right now how in exchange for pledging never to use social media or the Internet for the rest of your life. Would you take it in a a large majority said no they would rather be have access just to the Internet and not get this million dollar cash payments so there is a sense in which everybody is a millionaire now just because of the Internet and that stuff doesn't show up in the C._p._i.. Right because it's free and so you know this little things like that that we take for granted and yeah having access to facebook and C in cat videos doesn't really mean that much per se but <hes> there is a sense in which a lot of today's billionaires and certainly multimillionaires yeah. They're creating things avail you and ultimately the reason they're rich is because they're surpassing the market test you know earlier on. I realize if I'd been in cruise mode I had said something about Krugman in his ideology and if we pushed him on his egalitarian Algerian isn't be interesting to see where it would force him to go now. If we'd been in cruise mode I would have said you know where he won't be forced to go and then I would have been a pitch for the contractors but thank goodness do folks. You don't have to endure that for quite some time. Don't do that for quite some time but we are going to tell you about. Are we are in the process of nailing it down for what looks like October of Two Thousand Twenty S. That's a ways off but start thinking about it. Save the date. Get ready to think about your vacation time. We'll give you the exact dates as soon as as we have them but we won't go into crazy promotion mode for a little while which ninety nine percent of you think is funny good. You are natural constituency the one percent who don't now that's the antisocial one percent Bob that right there. They don't laugh at our jokes yeah. It's a in there is an the even distribution and Joe Quality too though so there's that between the hosts. Is that what you're saying between the host yeah okay well. We'll leave the the <hes> the listeners to decide where how that it all shakes out in terms of numbers all right. I think we're going to wrap it up for today. Bob Are we yeah I think so I mean maybe just to mention. <hes> you remember. That was a short story time. That Harrison is a burger in or version pronounce her they Kurt Vonnegut story with the handicapper general you know I'm not wow okay all right. Well I event. It's as there's also an unequal distribution in literacy. Yes among the host so any of that it was just it's this dystopia Sifi the thing where it's a futuristic world and everybody's handicaps attractive women have to wear masks and you know strong people have to carry weights around to handicapped so everybody's equal and my point is that you know that kind of thing you look. Oh yeah that's an exaggeration and so but I mean it really is getting closer to that things that it used to be. Slippery slope arguments that are side made a few decades ago now are becoming reality and again. There's nothing increments column column that would limit it to hypothetical future noon life extension. I mean all medicine is life extension basically or most of it is and so Israeli it's <hes> if prudence column had been written in the year eighteen hundred he would be banning all of the medical advances that were made in the twentieth century and so we don't have much lower life expensive season and yeah in that sense we'd be more equal but is that really a good thing and is that really what deal the conscience of a liberal would have us do well. It's a good question and I think we're this column is helping us to figure out what his answer is and it's chilling folks. That's that's why Contra Entre Krugman is here that is why we are here so check out our show notes page Contra Krugman Dot com slash one ninety eight and then to be the real the ultimate the ultimate fan of Contra Krugman pickup Bob's book over at Contra Krugman Book Dot Com and we will see you next week. Thanks for listening to Contra Krugman subscribe to the show for free on Itunes or Stitcher at Contra Krugman DOT com. You'll also find detailed show. Notes pages are blog log books by Tom and Bob and more at Contra Krugman dot com see you next week like the sound sound contract Krugman our audio production is provided by pods worth media. CHECK THEM OUT AT PODS WORTH DOT COM would show episode thirteen hundred ninety four prepared Serta set fire to the index card of allowable opinion. Your daily dose of Liberty Education starts here the TOM would show <music>. Everybody don't forget my friend Bob. Murphy has an amazing new book where he takes all his critiques of Paul Krugman from over the years all these devastating smashes news and organizers them in one volume according to topic and these are topics you WanNa master and Bob will help make you the master of the universe checking out a Contra Entre Krugman Book Dot Com and I am the narrator of the audiobook version and you can get that for free when you check out the audible offer at Tom Woods Woods audio dot com. I everybody Tom Woods here. Took some time off this weekend while I usually take the weekends off anyway but in particular this weekend because it was amy's thirteenth birthday she's my middle daughter out of the five and we spent a lot of time together and did some fun things so what I'm GonNa do for you folks today rather than again. Leave you orphans here with the podcast is I'm going to share with you a talk from my past now. This one does not have the oh I I don't know the the woods wit that you've come to expect over the years this. This one's very straightforward because I was speaking to a group of retired folks. I believe they were called the Auburn University lifelong learners or something like that and this was back when I lived in Auburn Alabama and I was a resident scholar at the musicians institute and on the side I was giving this little lecture series in American history. Should this group of retirees so I didn't try to do woods humor and I tried to sound as reasonable all as possible so as not scare the way but anyway in this talk. I talk a little bit about what happened. In the nineteen twenties in American history. Just some highlights particularly particularly areas that people don't often get right and one of those areas not not the whole subject of the talk by any means but one of those areas has to do with foreign foreign policy because everybody is under the impression from the Old High School Textbook that the United States was so called isolationist during the nineteen twenties but this is not not true and I give a lot of evidence to show this is not true unless you're defining isolationist in some bizarre way. It certainly does not apply the U._S.. The Nineteen Twenty S. I think it's important to correct that for a number reasons which is one of them is to show how sloppy historians are and how sloppy political commentators today they are that they just thoughtlessly use the word isolationist to refer the nineteen twenties. I think we cannot emphasize enough example after example of this consistent assistant sloppiness in terminology and sloppiness in conceptualization so we're talking about the nineteen twenties talking some domestic stuff some international stuff here in this particular talk much of this material that does not appear in my politically incorrect guide to American history. I did not discuss the foreign policy material the nineteen twenties in that book I had so much I want to talk about in that book but they gave me a strict eighty thousand word word limit. I don't remember if I've told the story on this on the podcast before but they said when I wrote that book eighty thousand words you know so I so I sent them one hundred thousand and I thought they'll be happy. There's twenty thousand words for free for you and they took every one of those words out the one way or another they they surgically removed the twenty thousand extra words above the eighty thousand limit I had been given they showed me. We said eighty thousand that's what we want and it wasn't like they took the lousy parts. They just kind of took arbitrarily. They just took stuff out what you're killing me. This stuff is great so I did use some of that for my. I follow up book thirty-three questions about American history. You're not supposed to ask I did do that anyway. I will link to both of those books at Tom. Woods Dot com slash thirteen ninety four the show notes page. You can get the audio book version of the politically incorrect guide to American history for free with the audible offer you will find at Tom Woods audio dot com all right here. We go okay so today. We're talking about the one thousand nine hundred twenty s domestic and international and I've got some material as I'd like to go over that is in the texts that I'd like to elaborate on some material that's not in the twenty s were inevitably brought face to face with presidents harding harding and coolidge and historians feelings about them and I have a little commentary about that at the beginning of my chapter on the twenties that we always get these polls of historians that presumed tell us who the great presidents were then they try to rank the presidents in order of their greatness and then we're all supposed to accept that and so every so often the American public has to endure another one of these polls of professional historians this practice began in nineteen forty gate with Arthur Schlesinger senior who pulled fifty five historians and publish the results in life magazine and then fourteen years later he did the same thing for the The New York Times magazine then his son Arthur Schlesinger junior published yet another one of these polls in nineteen ninety six and then numerous other such polls polls have appeared C. Span did such a poll the Wall Street Journal did one last year and it just goes on well who comes out on top in these polls and as I said the occasion for bringing bring this up is the low ranking that the president's we're talking about today consistently received well the top three you could probably guess our George Washington Abraham Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt those are always the top three in these polls also toward the top in these polls are these three Theodore Roosevelt Adult Harry Truman and Woodrow Wilson so the Great Presidents are George Washington Abraham Lincoln Franklin Roosevelt so-called near great presidents would include at least least T._R.. Harry Truman and Wilson well. It's not surprising given that we know where what the politics of most historians historians are that president who strengthen the federal government either through new domestic initiatives or through war typically find themselves exalted as guess great whereas those who exercise their power more modestly are relegated to the designation of average or worse Woodrow Wilson once said that the president president quote is at liberty both in law and conscience to be as big a man as he can unquote well if he accepts this invitation the president that President President can expect to be richly rewarded by our court historians. Now there was a time in American history when a powerful presidency was viewed with suspicion rather than held held up as an ideal and I like to quote here if I may the founder and president of this very institute Lou Rockwell who describes the older view view of the president this way he says the president is mostly a figurehead in a symbol almost invisible to myself and my community. He has no public wealth at his disposal he administers administers no regulatory departments he cannot tax us send our children into foreign wars pass out welfare to the rich or the poor appoint judges to take away our rights to self government control central bank that inflates the money supply and brings on the business cycle or change the laws Willy Nilly according to the special interests he likes or seeks to punish likewise elections and election campaigns. We're not the be all and end all of American liberty and again. Lou Rockwell says for those who do not voting do not care about politics in the old view their liberty is secure. They have no access to special rights yet. Their rights to person property and self-government are never in doubt for that reason and for all practical purposes they can forget about the president and for that matter the rest of the federal government might as well not exist people do not pay direct taxes to it. It doesn't tell them how to conduct their lives. It doesn't send them to foreign wars regulate their schools pay their retirement much less employ them to spy on their fellow citizens. The government is almost almost invisible. Well Alexis de Tocqueville who was the nineteenth century's most perceptive foreign observer of the United States observed in the eighteen thirties in some countries a power exists which though it is in a degree foreign to the social body directs it enforces it to pursue a certain track in others the ruling enforces divided being partly within and partly without the ranks of the people but nothing of the kind is to be seen in the United States their society governs itself for itself. The president has but little power little wealth and little glory to share among his friends and his influence in the state is too small for the success or ruin of a faction to depend upon his elevation to power but it doesn't sound like the presidency today needless to say but that was how the presidency was viewed in those days early nineteenth century Bob Higgs one of the great economic historians. We have living said this. The the people who ratified the original constitution never intended the presidency too powerful office spawning quote great men article two sections two to four which enumerate the powers of the president comprised but four paragraphs most of which deal with appointments and minor duties well the twentieth century. This minor position was transformed into a larger life office whose occupant is expected to exude vision leadership and greatness well this this view of the president is what we I would expect to hear and Mussolini's Italy or in any fascist regime where the leader capital is expected to exert bold leadership on behalf of the people. You may consider this to be a cheap shot but I've mentioned in this context that Adolf Hitler once told The New York Times correspondent I have sympathy for Mr Franklin Roosevelt salt because he marches straight toward his objectives over Congress lobbies and bureaucracy Hitler later described himself as the only European leader who expressed quote understanding understanding of the methods and motives of President Roosevelt Unquote the one idea that is absolutely anathema to all such regimes is this society is capable running its own affairs without the paternal custodianship of a great leader and his vision now the historians who were consulted in the rankings <hes> presidential rankings the tell us which presidents were supposed to like conceive of the ideal president is a far seeing demi-god rather than a humble executor of the laws now Theodore Roosevelt is a president. I've written very negatively about in the past he's very very popular among great many Americans on left and right but but I've been very critical of him because I believe he basically was almost single handedly responsible for putting together this new kind of presidency where the people people are are kind of superstitious reverence for the occupant of the presidency and there he is at number four in C. Span's two thousand poll historians that poll ranked the president's on their quote vision on quote setting an agenda other categories included public persuasion crisis this management economic management moral authority international relations administrative skills pursued equal justice for all and so WanNa while there's nothing on there there's no ranking on how faithful was he too the constitution or or traditional American principles and this is the main problem with these polls they take take for granted that there's some objective scientific standard for determining how great a president is but of course there is it to evaluate whether a president is any good it or not you have to have a standard of measurement philosophical moral economic and constitutional prisons what constitutes good economic management a Keynesian CNN's Ian economists will say one thing and a free market economists will say another so how can you in a non ideological way ranked the president's on those grounds or what does equal justice justice for all me well that phrase has changed over time under Andrew Jackson Andrew Jackson's philosophy of government. We're talking eighteen thirties now was called Ralph Jacksonian democracy and he used the phrase equal rights but with Jackson meant by equal rights was that nobody gets anything from the government. We are equal in the sense that nobody no big business no lobbyists. Nobody is able to use the coercive arm of the state to exploit his fellow man. That's the sense in which we're equal. Nobody's getting any special privilege. We're today when the phrase equal rights is used nearly always refers to some kind of grant of special privilege so how can it be a constant category for <hes> evaluating the president's the meaning changes over time now Jeff Humble. WHO's a professor on the West Coast has argued that from the point of view of Libertarians of many of whom occupied this building the greatest president in American history was actually Martin Van Buren well some? I'm sure here's some people didn't know Martin. Van Buren was the president but elected in eighteen thirty six van Buren had been vice president for a term under a little over a term under Andrew Jackson Jackson. Another candidate has been proposed the greatest president from a libertarian point of view. I've heard William Henry Harrison only because he died a month after he got an office office. We didn't have a chance to do anything bad so therefore he's the greatest but Martin van Buren has been proposed and Hummel's argument is that Van Buren was was was the best the president because he resolutely supported the free market and the Constitution at a time when every incentive existed for him to do otherwise his his his banking policies introduced what what is arguably the greatest banking system monetary system in the United States has ever had <hes> he also managed to avoid not one to unnecessary wars one with Mexico and one with Britain which is a fact of particular significance when we recall what the founders unders often said about war and its tendency to undermine free societies now where does poor van Buren wind up in the presidential polls well he lacked vision. I suppose is but he kept the country at peace and was resolutely committed to the constitution. Come what may nine hundred forty eight he was number fifteen out of twenty nine Presidents Nineteen Sixty Institute. He was seventeen out of thirty one and in two thousand five he was twenty seven out of forty. One Arthur Schlesinger junior complained that van buren lacked executive energy energy another historian described Van Buren inaugural address as quote essentially a charter for inaction well. I hardly need to point out to you that those are bad things to the official historians who rank our presidents for us now the consistently low rankings of presidents like ulysses grant or president we discussed today today. Warren harding are due in part of the corruption associated with their administrations now to a certain degree. That's all well and good but what is the Teapot Dome Scandal compared to Woodrow Wilson's catastrophic decision in the face of strong popular opposition to involve the United States in World War One a horrific conflict at the very least Wilson's decision it has been argued pave the way for the ultra nationalistic policies of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis who protested punitive Riverside Treaty that the allies would never have been in a position to impose without American Assistance Wilson is consistently ranked among America's best presidents forget the a foreign policy disasters he was responsible for the historians hold seem to be saying and forget the American deaths has decisions caused the man had vision well this brings us to the twenties and harding and Coolidge because what we'll find is although they did do more domestically than people realize in terms of building up government the fact is that they were by twentieth century standards relatively inactive and they're therefore we're supposed to hate them and rank of low of but again that's an ideological judgment okay if you want to decide which which are the best presidents you have to decide that on the basis of your own views and what these people did when they were in office and whether or not they conform to your views well. There's a lot <unk> scandal-mongering we could talk about with with harding official scandals and personal scandals but I hate to being a scandal monger the guy's dead now I mean as it is. I already condemned him in the book so let's not dwell on that too long. It is interesting to know that on two occasions when he confronted people who had been and engaged in corrupt behavior under his presidency people went and committed suicide after confrontations reputations with with harding so apparently he could be quite rough on people apparently but what I wanNA point out a focus on instead is one in fact he did what what he did do economically so I want to focus on the tax policies of the twenties because they are they are worth revisiting. I mean it seems like nothing could be less relevant than the tax policy also twenty s but let's remember that during World War One the top income tax rate had been increased from seven percent to seventy three percent now I've got I've got students in an online course that I teach and they they're always flattering themselves about how wise they all are and they're saying they were saying at one point. Well we know that in our country we would never tolerate tax rates of fifty or sixty percent of course we would and I said not only would you but you did for for many years in American history that rates were very very high. I gave the example of in Britain. The talk rate at one point was ninety five percent. That was a democracy ninety. Five percent was the top rate which is why in the song taxman George Harrison says of the tax man. He's he's putting himself in his shoes. There's one for you nineteen for me. That's a ninety five percent rate. See how these very high rates coming in because of the war well. After the war is over national you would expect the rates to come down and they do come down in the twenties but as I suggested last time as tends to happen in emergencies they never quite come down down to the level where where they were before the emergency. They never come back down to seven. That'll never happen again. I can say with absolute certainty that never in my lifetime the top rate ever ever be seven percent again but did come down substantially in the twenties and why is that it has a lot to do with Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon because he was noting that we had more and more millionaires millionare's in America and a lot of wealthy people but yet you didn't have a lot of investment going on a lot of business activity. It seemed to be seem not to make sense. Why should that be be wide? We see people doing well but yet we don't see enough business expansion going on and he concluded that it was the tax rates. Were too high that if I start off something succeed then I get to keep twenty seven cents on the dollar and seventy three will be taken away. If I fail I lose the whole doll well who who in his right mind would would would consider those to be good odds so mellon was of the opinion. The tax rates were so high they were actually stifling business activity that what businesses individuals digitals we're typically doing was instead of using their funds to open up businesses and get people working. They were taking their money and putting it in state local municipal Oh bonds because they were non-taxable so states and localities were awash with cash for they had enough baseball stadium so last eighty years they didn't know what to do with all the all the money but meanwhile the private sector was starved for capital so what could be done so mellon believe that if the rate were lowered people would be more willing to expose their income taxation than they are now because now that now they only get twenty seven cents on the dollar. There's no point in doing it but if we make their reward greater if we lower the rate but then it's it's worth taking your money and putting it into a business venture so that was his proposal that was in fact what was happening now. This may sound a little familiar <hes> it sounds familiar to you may sound like something out of the Reagan years it worked better in the twenties than it did in the Reagan years but basically what what's being. 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Pacific one eastern Lotta News to get into here today and unfortunately literally right as we were going on the air the news that Harley race as passed away being reported all over the Internet Harley race one of the one of the all time legendary hall of famers in this business multi time N._W._e._a.. World heavyweight champion he was a trainer. He was one of the toughest guys in wrestling in that era and Dave meltzer is going to be joining joining us in the second segment of the show will talk all about life and times of Harley race. He was inducted into the W._W._e.. Hall of fame the N._W._e._a.. WWL Hall of fame the professional wrestling hall of fame the Wrestling Observer Hall of fame one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. If you have memories of Harley race welcome they give us a call here today on the show eight four four four eleven four eleven is the phone number that is eight four four four eleven at five four eleven. 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Go items plus free returns now at alko stores calls ten fifty offer valid August second through Eighteenth Promo Code bt S. ten some exclusions apply see store across dot com for details you were listening to wrestling observer live with Bryan Alvarez Simple Vivey view on the sports byline broadcasting network the show right Alvarez here wrestling observer live makes them via also wrestling observer dot com as noted the opening segment literally right as we were going on the air. We got word Harley race. The all time greats in professional wrestling passed away away apparently today have a lot of details have been reported that he was battling lung cancer although others had denied that and he'd been hospitalized realized of late and there was a report coming out of that hospital hospitalization that did not sound great and today it appears that he passed away a believer earlier today. We'll get more details here as the day goes on they meltzer joining us in the second segment of the show talk more about Harley race says no the opening segment all time all time legend professional wrestling hall of Famer in every hall of fame that has a hall of fame and Multi Time N._W._e._a.. Champion worked for the Awa W._C._W.. W._W._f.. He had been promoting his own organization up until I believe a year or two ago <hes> he had still been doing that and trained all sorts of people and I don't even know what else say about Harley race but Mike any thoughts on the king a hall of Famers <hes> Hall of Famer he really is <hes> <hes> started his career <hes> driving around Happy Humphrey one of the original fatman seven hundred pound happy Humphrey <hes> and you know even before that the story a Harley race that the legendary tough guy he was expelled from school for knocking out the principal principal who tried to break up a fight which is how he ended up getting interesting anyway <hes> badgered the the VISCO brothers the originals viscose now Larry's visco oh but Stanislas Bisco and and started working for them ended up doing more work on the farm for them then he really actually did any wrestling training ends hooking up with Gus Karras who's a name that historians would know <hes> for his work in the central states area and being a promoter there and and the story of Harley race and I'm sure Dave will tell the story. You're probably going to hear a lot of people tell the story and I'm not sure how many people know it of harleys career almost never got started because it at the age of eighteen he was working and I think it was in Tennessee and he got into a car accident accident but tragic car accident he killed his first wife and it was so bad that he almost lost his leg and doctors were going to amputate the leg and Karras had rushed to the hospital and if it was not for him stopping doctors from cutting off Harley race's leg the the entire course of wrestling history would have changed and he did not get back into the ring. That's a badly he was hurt. He did not get back into the ring until nineteen sixty four when he went to Amarillo to work for the funk family and I believe it was there that he hooked up with her <hes> Larry Haning and which then of course led to his run in the AWA and that run <hes> as pretty boy Harley race and and and handing and race and being called all the Dolly sisters by the Bruiser and crusher that started off everything and then of course that leads to the legendary run in the end of U._A.. Because of his reputation that he had already built or he ended up being the stopgap measure between Dory funk junior and Jack Brisco when funk either her got into a wreck on the ranch and hurt himself or just did not want to give up the title on that day to Jack Brisco they made sure he was going to give up the title when he was quote unquote cleared to come back by putting Harley race in the ring with him and that started off his eight time rain as N._W._e._a.. U._A. Champion and that of course legendary in itself and you're GonNa hear a lot of tributes you're gonNA hear a lot about Harley race and he deserves every single one of them and probably more of them so very very sad situation he had been very sick for a long time he had been running. <hes> W L W <hes> which was his training center in. I believe I can't remember exactly where it was. It was somewhere in Missouri out there Eldon Missouri. I believe that it was does he had a deal with no of the promotion gain some traction when Noah was blowing up and where she moves coming over here to the United States <hes> that was probably probably the peak of Harley to my knowledge Kinda cranking guys Trevor Murdoch being one of those guys Harley Love Trevor Murdoch <hes> he was one of those guys that he came out of there and there were a few others as well too but they did have a nice alliance. No of that ended up seeing to cash more SHEMA. I believe when he was still global. Honored Crown Champion come over and work in Eldon Missouri and Harley was an integral part of him getting a couple of W._W._e.. Tryout matches. I think on Youtube <hes> those matches catches are available where you get more Sheba coming out if I'm not mistaken using a earthquakes music or something like that I believe that's what it was but regardless just an absolute all time legend and I mean again. You've never heard he almost everything said about Harley race. Ace is in complete superlatives of of how great he was how tough he was how fast he drove. You never hear anybody really say how big of a bastard he was or anything. I like that almost all of the stories are positive and man. There's GonNa be a ton of them that come out from his visual twitter account today. At twelve fifty. We lost a man that fought up up till the very last of his existence more information will be released soon but just know that he loved pro wrestling and the fans that loved him Harley race. We love you spurs near says recipe's Harley. My favorite memory of him is of course he stark eighty-three when he wrestled ric flair in that cage match for the N._W._e._a.. World heavyweight title will an all time wrestling legend Spurs near says January twenty four and nineteen eighty one the final Roy Shire card at the cow palace final match <unk> Harley Race Pat Patterson and wwl world title double disqualification and he adds. I'm certain Dave Meltzer was their arrest will champ champs so we'll talk to Dave in the next segment of the about the life and times of Harley race when I mentioned since we talked about ended on observer radio yesterday. It does look to be official that the summer slam match is in fact Dolf Ziglar versus his Goldberg Not Delves Ziglar versus the MS Goldberg is coming back and as I had speculated which somehow turned into news from Dave. I don't even know how Goldberg is avenging his performance against the undertaker and he's going to come back here and he's going to Probably Destroy Detroit Dope Ziegler in about thirty seconds and is going to be an old Goldberg match our guests. I don't think they're gonNA go eight minutes. I could be wrong. I don't know what they're going to do but I wouldn't be surprised. Let's just put it this way. I don't think that this is Goldberg's last match. I also don't think Goldberg is going to be a regular but but I do think that you're going to be seeing Goldberg every now and then show up and massacre somebody who's not really doing much and sending everybody home happy so so that appears to be the match for summer slam good that was a baffling story and this is nothing against you but the first thing that I thought of when he started to incorporate Goldberg's name mm-hmm was he was going to face covert for two reasons the biggest one being I think Gobert wants to get the taste of Saudi Arabia out of his mouth and never see everything that it went sideways in the in the goal in the undertaker match but also because we know Shawn Michaels really doesn't WanNa Russell. We've seen that and yes he t he took the super kick and okay that was that he added Mick Foley's name which I took his like. Some sort of you know. <hes> salt in the is there is a distraction. He was already laid out by the fiend. We already saw that. The Goalpara thing just made sense and I am. I think most baffled by the guy or whoever it was from W._w._f.. Were W._W._e.. The call Dave and was like I can't believe you crack the code. Look I mean are they that Yes yes. I guess they are. They have their head in the sand that much I guess as far as like what they think they're doing is just like such incredibly high drama in just so oh baffling for everybody to to comprehend will in some ways it is actually baffling to comprehend because that seemed like the most obvious match especially for a guy like dolf ziglar who well dude he may be this is only back there in the first place because they needed somebody to go to Saudi Arabian owns wouldn't go duty mentioned his name three straight interviews I mean how could you not think that was a possibility like how can you be surprised if someone you knew it's not going to be Sean if it's not going to be the MS that left seth rollins Ain't GonNa be Seth Rollins. The already has a match exact exact and it's not going to be Mick Foley because he can't get cleared. I mean this is not like strong. Detective Work here. I mean they congratulations on your sleuth Luth work there but then again I I just. I don't know I'm amazed by W._W._e.. Sometimes they're really back in the day. A wrestling observer live attention to anyone. That's written a book a wants to write a book. The process is not not that complicated. Take a first step. Even if you write a page a day you build momentum and your book will become a reality. The hard part is getting it published. That's when you need to call page publishing. They've got hundreds and hundreds of thank yous from different new authors just like you they make the process of publishing in your new book and getting it sold online a simple process. 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Somebody texted this January twenty four nineteen eighty-one Final Roy Shire car to the cow palace final. They'll match Harley race. Pat Patterson says I'm certain Dave Meltzer was there. I was there believes may have been a count out in knotty double D Q.. What do you remember that match? I think it was double. Count out yeah yeah I mean it was a really good match. It was you know Patterson and just won the battle royal earlier in the show <hes> to get the championship match and yeah it was the last we didn't know if the last card were Shire was going to promote because they announced a new date you know and the new television was off the air and and and it was done because he didn't want to fight vern Gonyea who had come into territory starting to run at Better T._V. and access to bigger stars so so <hes> yeah that would have been the last match that <hes> Shire promoted it was very good match tells about the life of Harley race all time same hall of Famer. Oh are they race when grace of all time for sure <hes> there's so much to be said he was a you know was known as a tough guy I tough streetfighter. He started around progressing at the age of fifteen. He was like <hes> he used to work on the farm of Stanislau SA- Bisco <hes> who was like a legendary wrestler in at the turn of the century and <hes> was probably in the ring you know as a teenager for sure and was a big star. He was warning forty three so he was a star by the age of about ninety nine I think and <hes> get a big run when he was in his early twenties. In the Awa Larry Hennig the they were nicknamed the Dolly Sisters they were the world champions and their feud with bruiser and crusher sure really helped with the AWA on the math and made the Awa tag team title and do you know what for years was considered the number one tag team title in pro wrestling and then after after leaving the Awa he went back home to the central states he bought into promotion. He was the biggest star there was a headliner for years fifteen seventeen years in St Louis <hes> which was you know prior to top wrestling city in the country at the time and then got his first world title and Seventy Three Being Dory refund junior which was quite the story because <hes> Dory was supposed to lose to Jack Brisco. There was the ranch accident just days before the match everyone I'm skeptical when you sit there and it was real or not and they didn't really trust the funks in N._W._e._a.. was falling apart in some ways and <hes> the funks greatly respected race everyone did and so the Act Vince so mad that he attacked race which didn't go well for the bathroom heard that the story goes that he rushed race and tried to tackle him in Mount Him and race reversed him and just Kinda let let him go and that was it <hes> in the bathroom of all places and that's how the story goes anyway <hes> but race race was an old time guy. You know I mean sure he was a real life streetfighter. <hes> who you know everybody respected and Kinda like if there was a problem you called Harley to settle the problem so you know if somebody was acting up in a bar and Harley was there. The guy usually ended up getting his head split open and <hes> because he was you know if someone was a nuisance race race was the guy to quell the nuisance <hes> you know and even stabbed and everything like that. He was in a horrible car accident. Wife died in a car accident when he was like Smith's teams. I think eighteen yeah very early in his career <hes> in his career and they thought his career was over that that point you know ended Rushland for the next thirty years so even after he was attacked by Vince McMahon he still came in three years later the money at that point. They didn't trust him. 'cause there was a situation I think you know it one of these Hogan story so you never know but but I had heard the story when it happened a and not from Hogan but <hes> they had come to <hes>. I think it was probably Kansas City runner show W._f._A._N.. Harley went to the show and he was the opposite promoter promoter of the local promotion and story is that he pulled a gun on Hulk Hogan and scared whole Kokin to death. <hes> you know like you guys shouldn't be here. This is my territory toyed. That was kind of like the mentality at the time but like a year or two later <hes> you know the company lost so much money and Harley went to ends and said you know <hes>. Can I come. I'm in and of course he was a superstar brought him in but they didn't trust him against like they could have gone in with Harley race in Hogan right away and certain parts of the country that it would have been like a dream match but eating with it right away because they were he didn't fully trust Harley when they finally went Hogan finally trusted Harley they worked and they worked everywhere right and Ho can beat them everywhere. It was not as big a program as they had hoped or especially St Louis and Kansas City 'cause really harleys or had had dropped by by the time this was like eighty six. <hes> you know a few years earlier I think Hogan and Harley would have been amazed. They really didn't <hes> but yeah yeah it was that was quite the story to mice couple more quick one. I would have a couple of areas with the one I'd say is I guess put a little capsule on the story of of Harley and Jerry lawler when he actually became the king and how much controversy that stirred up and how much of a headache you was. I guess for the W._W._f.. Trying to run in Tennessee where he couldn't be again yeah <hes> they he'd he'd won this <hes> King of the Ring Tournament and they named him that the king they wanted to give him a monitor her and actually I mean the funny thing is is <hes> Harley took it. It's like a big compliment king of wrestling but when they did it and no one few you people know it but it was told me he was actually to make fun of him because he took hardly took being the best restaurant in the world. Seriously I'll always remember the story and Ribera Steakhouse in Vakulenko. Go you know had had told me and showed it to me there. Was this this. I don't think it's there anymore but in the eighties when I went there in nineteen where I remember it <hes> there's this poster this not poster put a framed photo and it's Harley Race Nick Baugh clinical each with their belts and end up about Awa belt and and it's <hes> <music> Harley signs it <hes> Harley race six time real R. E. A. L. Capital letters exclamation point world champion and the Knicks Stein's is Nick clincal semi real world champion so Harley Yeah hardly took that world title very very seriously <hes> so <hes> you know best wrestler on God's Green Earth that's right greatest restaurant God's green earth that was his nickname yeah that he gave himself so they made him the king of the ring and then so then Tennessee and see story is Jerry lawler had trademarked the king in Tennessee so they actually had a court fight and Jerry lawler one so in that Karen when Harley race worked in that area King Harley race because Jerry lawler David WanNa thanks so much noon the show. 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The death of Harley Race Goldberg smackdown ratings dirty one talk about eight four four four eleven five four actually know what could take calls today you want to text us four to five seven eight zero seven five six six text messages only today four to five seven eight zero seven five six six a fine and text. I just got here Brian. You're the best there ever was a thank. You very much actually ain't sweat. I did make that one. I never make him up those funny. This great texts actually says what's dumber Vince trying to take out Harley race or trying to take down on Kurt Angle on an airplane answer is simple like I said this was a great tax but it's a stupid question. It's much much dumber to try to attack Harley race because when you're on an airplane with Kurt Angle what happened was they just decided that they were going to have like a a little competition and they were playing playing around and Vince was trying to take down Kurt Angle and clearly he failed and obviously like Kurt snuck into hurt the guy he's just GonNa win and and they'll have a laugh about it in a drink and everything's fine trying to attack Harley race not a game just being very upset and and going after the guy. I mean you're asking for it. If you end up in the hospital that's on you dude so yes much much dumber to attack Harley race out of anger then to play a game with Kurt Angle and angle even said that you know you got a new what that was with race. It was yeah it was it was either the elevator of the bathroom and it was the bathroom where he'd spurned him. Because the star cade you look at the original star Kay Promo two or the original program INA Hulk Hogan is listed in there against Wa who mcdaniel I think for the southern title or whatever it was they were doing at the time so you know that was November. <hes> that was Thanksgiving is when stark eighty three was an hogan when was gone. I think that wrestling at the chase taping which was right in Harley races the heart of the N._W._e._a.. The heart of Harley races entire wrestling wrestling world literally in that he lived in promoted and had a cut there as well to <hes> you know right there only a month later so in everything was going really fast and Vince was certainly on edge as it started to expand in. He knew it was going to be a big deal in yeah you figure getting Harley Race Ace was gonna be a massive coup and Vince you know hates being sperm into go after them and try to double leg. was I mean it's just one of those insane only wrestling only vince in in wrestling type of stories that really is just absolutely nuts. This right here is well what happened demanding. Sonya's title match during a title match was supposed to happen on smackdown. It didn't happen. I mentioned this yesterday. They did eight W._B._Z.. Dot Com exclusive where so who wasn't it was <hes> Billy K. claimed she had puppy fever and just think about how we started this show talking about the legend of Harley race and I'm talking about this Billy K had puppy fever so they couldn't wrestle and when they walked off they were being stared down by Mandy Sonia and the Kabuki Gooky warriors and the plan right now probably at summer slam is going to do a four way with those three teams and Alexa and Nicky Cross so that's that's what's going on there. Percents is still going to come out with a belt aren't they. I hope not I site dallied Elliot. Listen listen all I know. Is this okay. All I know. Actually I don't even know I shouldn't even bother seeing the original idea for the match worthy iconic defended the titles was it was going to be like between thirty seconds in like a minute or something like that so that tells me they probably weren't winning now between now in Summer Slam. I mean what I heard. That idea wasn't wasn't even four way so I mean they've already changed the plans but I mean I. I suppose they could walk out of it with titles it stupid. They need to get the titles in a team. That's GonNa work work and can have good matches and isn't just a gimmick but we'll see the Kabuki warriors need to work with Sonia in Mandy Sonia and Mandy. You are a big future of W._W._e.. I believe that I think you've given their druthers. They're going to be there for a very long time. They're going to be featured very well if they can come around and be good even if they don't become. I'm good enough during its W._W._e.. But it'll help him immensely who better to work with them than than obviously Cardi saying who has worked with twelve year olds in stardom and and the <hes> Kana or Oscar who is one of the best women's professional wrestlers in the world <hes> that to me is the absolute no brainer and I can understand somebody saying well. They should work with the iconic to the. Let's not worry about that. Let's sporting swearing in focus on me. Sonia and I'd be very happy with that kind of feud. I really would be this person year. Says is the AWA television show going to be the road to series or being elite well first off. Listen everybody. No one knows what the T._V. is going to be like until the T._v.. App I hope it's a wrestling sling. Show would be awesome but but if you ask me it is going to be more like the road to series than it will be to being the elite elite being the elite is exceedingly wacky. It is directed towards a very very specific audience and and they know that when they go on T._N._T.. They need to attract a casual audience on top of the people that are already go watch the show if they do if they do being the elite they're going to get there three hundred thousand viewers or whatever and and the rest of the people that tune in for the first time we're going to be befuddled I think if they do the show like this road to series I watched the one yesterday with Shawn Shawn Spears and Tilly Blanchard and cody during the contract signing <hes> listen. If I went up to my wife life and I said I'm GonNa show you something okay. Let me know if you're interested in what's to come and I showed her being the elite or I showed her the road two all out okay. She's GonNa be way more into the road to all out then she is being. She's not GonNa have any idea what's going on with being the elite. There's going to be a lot out of comedy. That goes straight overhead the row to series. It's so simple you can show it to anybody. You can show it to somebody who understands wrestling. You chose somebody who doesn't understand in wrestling and they're gonna get what's going on. There's this guy cody. He's training very hard for a match. There's this other Guy Shawn Spears with slimy manager. They're all there for contract-signing and cody walks in he signs a thing and he walks out. It's it's it was the production is spectacular. It's it feels real. Will they shoot it like it's something that you would see on e._S._p._N.. Maybe not the contract signing part but the the people looking at the camera talking about being the lawyer and everything like that I mean I think that's going to be more like what you're gonNA. See on the show. You're going to see a little bit of Wacky as here and there. They're going to try a lot of different things. That is one thing that I can tell you for a fact okay. They are not going to go in there and do a bunch of stuff where it's like well. We know that like the smart fans are GonNa like like this and what they're gonNA do is. We're GONNA try a bunch of stuff. Some of the stuff is going to work. It's going to work great some of the stuff. The Librarian is GonNa flop and the whole key is are they going to be able to get rid of the stuff that sucks and push the stuff. That is a success. I think they're going to do far better job than W E does because w doesn't care they just do what they want one way or the other I e w going to be a little bit different in that if the library doesn't get over it ain't going to do it anymore. This sort of that. That's what that's what you can expect to see on the television show some of the stuff you're gonna like AAC and some of the stuff you're gonNA hate adding that. They're just going to be trying things. We'll see what will you do. This is not rocket science. It's to our wrestling show it shouldn't be that damn difficult and all they have to do from being the elite is giving the best of give you the easiest thing for a non <hes> b. t. e. fan or at least what they perceive a non being the elite Fan what they would like give them a little bit of that make the rest of it'd be wrestling sling and everything should really take care of itself. You have enough wacky characters. You have enough things that you need to establish on that. Show with traditional shnell pro wrestling means at least at first it's if they there's no reason and I trust with some of the people that they have there. I am trusting in that. When it comes to the production of this television show I mean I I the thought of it being like being the lead for the whole thing that that's even something something that anybody would want or think is a good idea? I mean you could say maybe time has passed me by. I just think it's incredibly stupid and short sighted. I can't hand and there are people out there that think the show should be more of that than anything in with all due respect. That's such a Vince Russo level way need to look at things I it really is. I mean if that's what people really want. I at eight W I mean I just I don't know we're we're just not even playing the same game here. This person year says I cut up on smackdown last night. I absolutely loved the story line between Kofi and Randy Orton. The video package was excellent. Let me say something about debit me here too because everyone's talking about the road to all out which was excellent. Tell me is perfectly capable of doing doing stuff just as good maybe even better. They've got if you look at every single person that they have on each roster like A._W._s.. Has It's a great roster but W._B._Z.'s roster if you consider like everybody in developmental everybody on the main Rosser everybody they have in the U._k.. Everybody they have under contract. They have the greatest greatest roster in the history of wrestling ever anywhere in the world. Okay thanks. They have a tremendous production team okay but they don't what do that you've here. Let me tell you something that Randy Orton Kofi Kingston thing was awesome and I was doing the filthy not show yesterday and I was so excited to talk about it. Tom Goes Watch. It sounds like what and the reality is. They do so many generic nothing happening by the numbers boring video packages that he saw that reindeer Jordan was going to be talking about Kofi Kingston and he skipped it okay and to be honest. You can't blame the guy right but I watched it. I watched it and it was awesome and it reminded me of all of the great things that they do on the w network ever watched those w twenty four episodes roads even watch the documentaries they put together and the W._b.. Network they're phenomenal and I always hear from people in W._W._e.. And they're there you know they understand the problems inevitably okay some of them. You think we're negative about me. I mean you talk some the people that actually work there anyway. The point of this is like there are people there who who you know they they are me they work for me. They want me to succeed and there's part of the deal with a W. or they're like man. I can't believe that like you know people are into this or whatever Blah Blah Blah and they they point out all of this great thing on these great things that produces and you're right but all that stuff is on the W._W._e.. Network it is almost never in the body of the show and most people are only watching raw or smackdown and a small number of those people to watch Ron smackdown watch and exte- they don't even know the stuff exists like this stuff that you guys can do needs to be done on raw and smackdown and let me tell you something if aid w view kind of starts to take off utilizing this stuff like all I can hope is it w Egos Dude. We need to put some of this stuff that we do on TV T._v.. Then we're talking about something then we're talking about competition making everybody better but if you leave this stuff on the network and just have a bunch of boxes falling on Roman raids with eighty-five camera cuts on smackdown things ain't going to get better back in a moment of silver life and not too long ago. It felt good to withdraw your cash from the bank. 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You're listening to wrestling observer live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike Semper V._p.. On the sports byline aligned broadcasting network back in the show Brian Elber is year Wrestling Observer Live makes them proverbial wrestling observer dot com it is personnel here says cody said on busted open radio that he wants to serve the hardcore Awa fans before worrying about attracting new casual fans. We'll see what happens when they run television. Cody says a lot doesn't yes they. They will be attracting. They will be doing what they can to attract new casual fans. They will not be doing being the lead on T._N._T.. Also said they were going to have a mid south. A sporting fields so cody is going to say a lot in the lead up to this show so maybe maybe and I don't know if anybody knows this. The son of Dusty Rhodes boots they a lot of things too. Let's just take a couple of things with a grain of salt and Jessie. What's put on that screen because that's all that's going to matter at the end of the day no matter what they say about anything says you think they should have waited until the first smackdown on Fox for dull versus Goldberg? Well listen like I said. I don't think his last year to see if Goldberg I don't think he's decided like and I'm GonNa do one match to redeem myself for the undertaker match and I'm done like if you're Bill Goldberg and you're being offered and I'm not going to say if you're being offered a lot of money to like show up looking like Goldberg and Squash Dude in Old Goldberg W._C._W.. Squash match like why wouldn't you do this forever long as you can. There could be another name maybe that he's going to destroy them smackdown. I mean he's got two months just to get ready after he destroys ziglar so maybe they'll be a bigger name distance to. I don't know I don't know what they have planned but this is what they wanted to do for summer slam win. They're GONNA do what time everybody back tomorrow with more always callers listeners every the studio toxic next time wrestling observer live you're listening listening to the heartland news feed ready nip work at live dot heartland use fee dot com. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by by US follow us on facebook twitter and INSTAGRAM's service killing newscasts for Thursday August first twenty nineteen. I'm Mike Clifford night. Two of the democratic debates includes hecklers demanding police accountability also on our Thursday rundown. Komo urged that New York have access to all renewable energy sources plus a B._l._m.. Plan could open up central Montana to oil and gas drilling topping our news hecklers shouting fire Pantaleo interrupted both Mayor Bill De Blasio and New Jersey Senator Corey Booker during last night's democratic debate that from the New York Post their report one protester could be heard chiming in during the Blasios. 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That's that's a really unsafe and difficult way to live it just fuels the level of inhumane conditions that people are being subjected to the servers were added to the data set from two thousand the eighteen which now totals more than thirteen thousand seventy five percent of respondents said broken infrastructure is not repaired in a timely manner sixty six percent reported inadequate inadequate ventilation and sixty two percent indicated. The temperature is uncomfortable. Bowen Cat says the Illinois Department of Corrections has not commented on the survey results Mary Chairman Reporting Back in twenty eighteen. That organization started staff surveys at the Illinois Department of Juvenile Justice's five Saudis finally a resource is Management Plan for Central Montana is drawing ire from conservation groups as well as former public land's officials calling it a sell off to the oil and Gas Industry Eric Teknaf explains the Bureau of Land Management released a draft plan for six hundred fifty thousand acres of land overseas stretching from the Missouri breaks to the Rocky Mountain Front despite the Lewistown Field Offices preference that two hundred thousand acres be given special environmental protections. The agency has recommended protecting zero acres. There's head of Montana Wildlife Federation. Dave Chadwick says B._l._M.'s preferred alternative would open up roughly ninety five percent of the area to development oil and gas drilling road construction construction all kinds of other development that will essentially close off public access fragment wildlife habitat and have a real long term impact on hunting and fishing Asian opportunity and really the local economies of communities that depend on hunting activity in the area a draft proposal is also off of Elam lands near Missoula that similarly recommends protecting zero acres for the special wilderness characteristics the public comment period for that plan also ends August Fifteenth Fifteenth by Clifford for Public News Service. We are member endless too supportive and we are aligned at Public Do Service Dot O._R._G.. Here comes again lunch. Will it be the same old same old or are you ready to take a vacation from the ordinary with the new Jamaican Jerk Turkey sub at firehouse subs freshly sliced. 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Here's your host what talks the evening friend crime drama on this Thursday Broadway is my beat starring Larry Thor as it was broadcast sixty five five years ago today July Twenty Fifth Nineteen fifty four and we thank you for tuning in and joining us on this Thursday the the twenty fifth day of July the two hundred six day of twenty nine thousand nine hundred one hundred fifty nine days remaining until we get to twenty twenty the first milling million selling record in history was hit on this date in one thousand nine hundred forty two song. You've probably we never heard Ella Mae Morse with the cow cow boogie News on yourself. They better cowboy riding the range one day job long. I'm saying almost thick you cowboy song. It was the ditty in the city. I got ta get along Little Doggies. Get along along better be on you. Get little doggies any truck them on down the fairway. Ah Ella Mae Morse the cow cow boogie with Freddie slack's band became the first million selling selling record in history on this date in nineteen forty two at club five hundred in Atlantic City New Jersey on this date in one thousand nine hundred forty six a new new comedy team formed a very fine singer and a slapstick comedian Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis Jerry and I don't tell me that you're the one the police are after yes. They think I'm crazy. I just escape from the hatchet me. That's a prison full of women the women then I must be great. I don't get this at all. What were you sent to prison for and I play reckless driving? I got six months for driving a white line. Wait a minute. You can't get six months but drive across the white line on a tennis court really funny team. Dean Martin Jerry Lewis they went their own ways and both had quite amazing careers careers but they teamed up for the first time on this date in Atlantic City in nineteen forty six on that same date the U._S. tested the first underwater atomic. Mike bomb at Bikini Atoll in the Pacific in one thousand nine hundred eighty two Puerto Rico became a Commonwealth of the United States in nineteen fifty sixty Italian liner Andrea Andrea Doria sank after colliding with the Swedish ship Stockholm of the New England coast to one people killed was on this date in nineteen in sixty nine. President Nixon declared the Nixon doctrine stating the U._S.. Now expected its Asian allies to take care of their own military defense events before any American troops were committed to Vietnam. A leader of another Asian country expressed this opinion to me when I was traveling in Asia as a private citizen. He said when you were trying to assist another nation defendants freedom U._S.. Policy should be to help help them fight the war but not the fight the war for them in accordance with this wise counsel I lay down in Guam through principles as guidelines for future American policy toward agents burst United States will keep all of its treaty commitments second and we should provide a shield if a nuclear power threatens the freedom of a nation alive or of a nation whose survival we consider vital to our security third in cases involving other types of aggression we shall furnish military and economic assistance when requested in accordance hardens with our treaty commitments we shall look to the nation directly threatened to sue the primary responsibility of providing the manpower for difference. After I announced this policy I founded the Lueders Philippines Thailand Vietnam South Korea automations which might be Dreckman Communist aggression welcome. This new direction in American foreign policy defense of freedom is everybody's business not just in the Nixon doctrine the start of the Vietnamese ation of the war back in nineteen sixty nine one thousand nine hundred seventy eight the world's first test Tube Baby Louise Joy Brown born in Lancashire England and she is now still alive and kicking at forty one years of age. It was on this date in one thousand nine hundred four Soviet cosmonaut sweat mono- Salvaged Kaya became the first woman to walk in space. The supersonic airliner Concorde crashed after takeoff outside Paris and it was nine years ago today. wikileaks published classified documents about the Afghanistan War One one of the largest leaks in military history passing away on this date in history big Mama Willie Mae Thornton film director Vincent is it Manelli and singer Charlie rich. Hey did you happen to see the most beautiful girl in the world born on this date in history Walter Brennan Sixty one of these days. 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Maybe the drama of murder mystery and the people who walked the Great White Way with Larry Thor as as detective Danny clover when shadows drift to the Canyon streets in the beginning moon starts to ride Broadway sends up. It's manufactured stars giving notice that night is here then around every corner honor the fingers beckoning gathered up the crowds so furious funneled down the avenue each in his own way make time stand still that's the trick or make a dance or softly cy or hug close. Pick your dream. It's anything you want on Broadway and east on forty seventh grade granite area sometimes devoted to gray granite enterprise as for example Los Amigos Athletic Club where I was second floor locker room after swimming pool and the towel swelled in very concerned concerned man is he hurt Pat Granison and got him across the hall and one of the tables doctor though weather them what made him the question right now the question is why did you slugging then run all around the building feeling like you were. I got hysterical. I thought when I pushed him and he slipped and fell down he didn't move. I'd kill him so I ran around and told everybody called for help and got first aid. I guess I'm not very good in the pinch now Bush stamp Oh. Let's just get that straight. That's all okay. Just tell me what happened. Well we just finished doing ten links together up and down the pool took. Our Shower Oren came right in here. We'd open our lockers this Jesse Anderson. I'm a strategy str- Anderson is the man who pushed Marty Lane not hit him pushed him. Well whatever you did to lying on a rubbing table on consciousness drainage daca shaking his head sadly. Did I kill him at the docks access proudly. He's got a fractured skull how bad he can't tell until he's taken hospital x-ray listen. I like muddy lanes where he lives this address in his wallet. Let me see yeah. That's right listen. I'm trying to tell you what ever happened to him. It's not my fault. I WANNA make a positive statement to that effect and I want your your lockers and then what happened. Oh I remember. I left my town the shower room so I went back to look for what I came back. Here and mighty was going through my pockets of doing what stealing what are you go through. Someone's pockets for the League surprises right now with your friend Brendan. There may be dying. We can do without lip stealing. I what does that mean. He looked like he was searching for something like he knew what he was looking for find yeah. I don't think so he saw me and asked what the Heck I was doing. Spying on him I said now look here and he came over and swung on me. I'm a fairly agile man. Maybe I don't believe Yeah Yeah. I did then you push them defending myself look. It's a slippery floor and all you did was push look. I like the guy twice a week. After work we play handball and Gorton links. You think I'd try to kill Guillem now. Do I look like that kind of a boy that gets dressed. Take him downtown. Leave their out into the night St Street at hold at dimly heard echo of Broadway three blocks away car ride now downtown mission to break the news to an injured man's wife South West Twenty eight the injured man's address found in his wallet twelve twelve Brownstone converted into apartments. The directory reads Mr and Mrs Martin Lane to see UNHANDY card up self service elevator down a corridor of red and luminescent carpet and green wallpaper jungle foliage type decor department to see his halfway down Mrs Lane. She's just give have a little time. Oh okay it's time ever Wednesday. We'll go ahead. Knock again you. You were saying thing about this time everyone. I'm a bake bread smells good. Go ahead. Take a with <hes> about this time. Everyone's bread lane is a girl who likes explored in a fresh loaf of bread from the oven. She might if I do go ahead. It's me Charlie. Jani Begum something's wrong. Oh something's wrong for three years Monday Wednesday Friday. I bring freshly baked missing lane. It's me something's wrong. We better get. She has a Mitzvah three years and five o'clock. She called me and told me tonight the kind of rich try the door comes wrong. It's me Charlie. I've told told you I told you I told you what she do. Faint or something that she's been strangled silence the road below in the street drift of summer voices the droning city heard clearly now puff of wind the move the lace curtain moved a strand of hair across the woman's face. I phoned in the death. The next morning positive identification identification was made from fingerprints checked out against a driver's license found in the woman's belongings. She was Mrs Mardi Lane wife of Mardi Lane who was in the Polytechnic Hospital from a head injury. I called the hospital and was told Mr Lane was improved but still incoherence still dazed with shock and told at the staff at red or heard of his wife's murder and would keep the knowledge from impending further instructions from me Legwork then at the Lane apartment house neighbor of theirs and the apartment across the hall. You're perfectly welcome to come in if you want Mr Clover there's no need for you to stand out here Hatton. Had I missed all the excitement last night. My husband and I were at the park and why don't you sit over there to clover. It's cooler. Yes thank you. It's like I said I missed all excitement. There Harry and I were in the Park Harry's my husband just lying there on the grass watching the other people all while Katie Eighty was right here right in his apartment building getting yourself killed go on and on like talking machine. Don't I was all right Mrs Bruce do people know do other people react differently like Katie's death. I mean I've seen how they reacted. Rightness building very quiet or scared or very cynical Harry is a little like that may I just dabble on and on and on because well I like Katie. I liked it very much. We're good good friends. I suppose you could call us that we liked each other on mutual interests mutual interests. Yes it's all women. Have we talked about our husbands their faults and what was especially Nice about the times they were especially nice and we said each other's hair one or the other of us was going out on a party with her husband. What did he is? I know what you said. It's just struck me so off a question like that has to be asked the long run but they adored each other I know they did. I often watched them. When we were together? All of us sort of eavesdrop watching they did little things and I I know they adored each other and she made no great effort just the way she was. They don't understand I mean she never wore fancy slicked clothes or makeup or anything like like that she dressed simply for face was your own. They loved each other except except one. Oh don't prick up your ears like that. It wasn't anything or it wasn't just the Katie told me once her husband was a stick in the mud not a lot of fun and I said who are you kidding. I've watched you to sit and she started laugh too. Jordan said no we was angel. Just I feel ashamed. I don't know why I've talked too much about Katie. Dead Katie murdered and please. If you don't mind she moved to a chair sat down sudden weariness when I thanked her hands hitter face from me I left check out now the other other neighbors in the apartment house reaction to the death of Mrs Lane about the way Mrs Brewster had said quiet frightened cynical which meant who cares I was told by a cynical young woman but a consensus to be drawn Mr Mrs Lane were fine people quiet very nice very friendly didn't offend bother anyone fine and good persons admirable human and beings consensus with which Sergey Genus Battaglia different that Monte Lane than he he's got a wreck. It goes back six years a record as long as my arm talking talking about right good. Nanny record is dug out by detective Margolin lanes name the bladder and so two record well no felonies Danny nothing like that just just minor misdemeanors brush with the law dull respect to an opposite drunk driving disturbing the PS bob roles like that but as long as is my own now is Mrs about her also on the book by her maiden name but just wants Danny June nineteen fifty for hefting Stein a beer through the plate plate glass of a window and handed another stung by a fellow name of holid- Graham which she threw the bomb talking about Guven check them out Danny and brought him in <music> said you should talk to him very interesting conversationalist Howard Graham who's been waiting outside for you for an hour. Bring him in Mr Graham this way to see Danny Global Gino. You can go terrorist Graham. Thanks it seems that <hes> you knew Mrs Katie Lane especially when she wasn't a Mrs especially when she was just Gedi Eglin got arrested once. We got arrested me and Katie for the one time you must have missed a thousand. What are you talking about? That's just what detective magazine asked me. Did you tell him MHM. Tell me what Katie was wild. When I mean a she was there was a time once in Harlem in the village once she pulled the same same thing same thing and nobody arresting detective told you she was dead? He didn't have to Iran and I remembered. Katie makes she used to be with me. I thought a detective in our husbands yeah I know money was more Katie style me. I couldn't keep up so we took her away from me. Marrying you ever see him afterwards Fan Dan Vladimir up a few times after I got so I didn't go anymore. Why not why it was changed? Not the same people couldn't have fun like the old. Thank you mean just that they've done something to each other getting was like another woman money like another me why I still let me good people little angels that very good thought skating special one thing I know what like I said she changed. She thought good thoughts though so she's practically a cinch to make sure she is Katie cinch from July twenty fifth one thousand nine hundred fifty four sixty five years ago today. Broadway is my beat on Classic Radio Theater. I'm Wyatt Cox coming up in four minutes the news of the day from sixty five years ago today. I can't believe it that Gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Look here comes one point seven percent decrease in fixed overhead. Hello everybody no I can't. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on car insurance with Geigo you dope projected increase in Organic Q._3. 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Presidentially Bourbon - Harry S. Truman

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What could be obtained in like it in my outfit when a man kicked about the food he was given a chance to improve it that soon cured the kicker's and they took what was put before them in liked it the bathroom and made not have protested too much about what was on his table the dishes and drinks that did show up on the White House menu had to be cooked afford to the first families exacting standards, but there was one known drink that the president favored and it was none other than bourbon more on President Truman and his love for bourbon after a message from our sponsor. Whiskey is no stranger to the White House our first President George Washington sold whiskey from one that country's largest distilleries upon leaving office, but he reportedly never drank his own Supply instead Washington sipped a dark Porter style of beer mixed with malicious. It was brewed in Philadelphia his presidential successor. John Adams love drinking hard cider rum and wine during his time off and our 8th president of the United States Martin van Buren suck so much whiskey that he earned the nickname blue whiskey van. Many of our presidents turn to their alcohol beverage of choice in order to relax after a Long Day's Work. However, one president flipped the script and decided to start his own nowadays by knocking back a shot of his favorite bourbon. It is reported that President Harry S Truman like to start his days with a nice brisk walk and took a volt Grandad how much better can it get than a shot of old Grandad bourbon trim and appreciated a strong old-fashioned and reportedly would complain about his staff that he felt the cocktail was too weak. Although it may seem unhealthy for a person of his position to consume such a potent drink so early in the morning. He actually prided himself on maintaining a nutritious diet and a diary entry dated January 3rd 1952 Truman wrote when I moved into the White House. I went up to 185 month. Now hit an average of 175. I walked two miles most every morning at a 128 steps a minute eight. No bread but one piece of toast at breakfast no butter. No sugar. No sweets usually have fruit one egg and a strip of bacon and half a glass of skim milk for breakfast liver and bacon or sweetbreads or Hammer finish spinach and another non-fattening vegetable for lunch with fruit for dessert for dinner. I have a fruit cup steak and a couple of non-fattening vegetables an orange pineapple a berry for dinner. So I maintain my waistline and can wear suits about nineteen thirty-five. Probably know Truman made no bones about his love for bourbon. It was a constant in his diet. It wasn't that long ago that presidential candidates proudly offer publicize their drink of choice case in point Harry S Truman Truman who held office from 1945 to 1953 was one of the most storied month's presidential relationships with alcohol to date. He did have a reputation for enjoying his bourbon says clayboss the curator of the Harry S Truman Presidential Library and museum in Independence, Missouri. Though he certainly didn't go as far as Winston Churchill who is a very famous Drinker the Missouri Democrat harbored a love for bourbon. So well-known that in nineteen forty-five. In fact November of nineteen forty-five the Baptist General Convention of Texas, which objected to his frequent drinking and poker-playing tried to prevent Baylor University from giving him an honorary degree. The following year the New York Times magazine ran a story by Luther Houston called bourbon on the Potomac which talked about how the spirit was the social lubricant off of choice in Washington, DC. The article included the section on the then Administration now President Truman does not settle momentous controversies on the basis of a teetotaler versus tipler, but anyone who knows him is aware that there is quite likely to be a stronger bond between him and a southern gentleman who likes a hooker of red and then between him and an arid low one. It should come as no surprise of both sides of Truman's family came from America's most famous whisky producing state, Kentucky, but despite his lineage. He seemed to keep his appreciation for the spirit and his foreign policy separate. He shut down the nation's distilleries for 60 days in nineteen forty-seven to preserve grain, which was sent overseas to help hungry Europeans. The move was particularly touched of America distiller, since they were just getting started after World War Two when most of them have been producing High proof alcohol for use and rubber explosives the antifreeze for the Armed Forces. It was a rough. For drinks with stocks of straight whiskey running low. Ultimately Truman's fondness for bourbon. Not only broaden his appeal but helped him defeat his much-heralded opponent Republican Thomas Dolby Truman's campaign. According to David McCullough's Pulitzer prize-winning biography Truman ran on a diet of bourbon and poker while Dewey staff and the company press favored the more rarefied, off of martinis in a bridge. The presents liquor preference was no chiefs election season publicity stunt. The straight-talking mid Westerner was an unabashed whiskey fan for years being most days with a gram of old grand-dad or Wild Turkey Bourbon and a power walk off. The regimen according to piccola's book was perhaps responsible for his good health that lasted well into his late sixties bourbon could also melt the awkwardness or the awkward formalities of the features Washington after losing a tough fight at the Supreme Court went even his own appointees declared his attempt to temporarily nationalize the steel industry unconstitutional trim and found himself invited to an Old Alexandria home for a cocktail party with Supreme Court Justices William O, black and Hugo, excuse me, William O Douglas and Hugo black as McCullough recounted in Trumansburg it the start of the evening Truman. So polite seemed a bit testy remembered William O Douglas, but after the bourbon and canopies were passed he turned to age. Go and said he go. I don't care much for your law. But by golly this bourbon is good later in life. Truman's physician a constructed him to imbibe. The doctor says he should drink that is good for him. It's relaxing for him and that it's particularly good for people who are older and having hardening of the arteries or restricted circulation and so forth and his son-in-law he clipped and Daniel and a 1972 energy did you said so he is not only permitted to offer but encouraged to drink but of course not too much besides this morning constitutional trim and usually enjoyed his whiskey with water or a ginger ale but nowhere near the excess one might think According to numerous interviews with friends former colleagues and subordinates collected as a part of an oral history project at the Harry S Truman Presidential Library and Museum. He generally limited himself to just a few drinks prevent which he would nurse all night. He can make a highball last longer than anybody I ever thought all said Edgar behind a longtime friend comrade and World War one and former postmaster in Independence, Missouri. I've seen him take one high-ball and all evening. That would be all he take off but he drink with everybody that come in. I never saw him when he was anywhere near under the influence of liquor. No matter how much you drink at one time bourbon became one of the Hallmarks of his presidency for Christmas nineteen forty-six. His cabinet presented him with a handsome bar set featuring to crystal decanters one for bourbon one for scotch and twelve matching silver cups each engraved with a staff members name. And of course one for his own Spirit of gifts were frequent frequently bestowed on Truman is list of Christmas presents at the White House received in nineteen fifty-one includes a case of old grand-dad and an unnamed eighteen-year-old bourbon. The 33rd president certainly had enough friends and colleagues to share his liquor with but he wasn't the only trimming to enjoy a glass of whiskey before dinner what color Raquel tells the first lady best school, but White House bartender on how to make an Old Fashioned perversion. It turned out was actually a sizable glass of bourbon on the Rocks void of the Sugar Bowl Bitters and fruit that it normally would make up the cocktail one thing is for certain and that is Truman made bourbon presidential and until next time. We'll see you then.

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Just want to remind you solar international has five full service case I- dealerships located throughout central Illinois. They carry a large selection of both new and used equipment as well as technology and parts to keep your operation up to speed Stoler international. Todd Lowrie is our guest in studio today and Tom, you are with the Eleanor agw leadership foundation. You're proud to be a part of this group. You have lots of central Illinois and agriculture routes. Yes, I grew up in Bana Illinois. My dad was the superintendent of a country club for thirty year now. So I had the horticulture background and then my grandparents farmed in fort county gifts and city close with the nearby in Ron Warfield territory. And Ron also serves on her education committee, by the way. Nice. And so I had both of the. Horticulture and the cultural background. In fact, I consider farming. Unfortunately, my grandfather passed away before I could get to the age where that would be a going concern. But I've always kept my roots in it always helped out on the weekends during harvest sometimes during the fall, you know back when we back when you used to shell corn, you know, I got my workout there. So I've always, I've always kept up with it when I was at the McLean county chamber of commerce, did government affairs, but I also ran the programs there and, and not to the scale, but the Aggie change program, which is where we took people that weren't involved in agriculture at all from the community business leaders public servants. And we took them out about five different times a year over six month period and got them, exposed to what was. Mclane is McClain counties. You know, number one industry. Yeah. And that is such an effective program, many counties around the state, do just that, right. And sometimes you have to be there just like with your class. You know it's not something. That you can actually teach here in a classroom, all the time you take them out and experience the industry. Exactly. And not just, you know, when we go to DC for example, and we met with the folks from the World Bank, and the director of development for the continent of Africa. Well, and you, you figure out how that plays in the world markets. How that not not just with agriculture, but what's going on there, how that affects us back here at home in Illinois, in the country and not just agriculture. It was it was it was eye opening and to see what our government officials are doing. For example, the State Department one of the things that I came away with myself and also several the class members, I had no idea the State Department was so involved with agriculture. I mean, when you think State Department you think you know North Korea and missile talks, and, you know, they're not they, they see that as. As something that they need to focus on security wise, and, and as far as world issue is. And so when you're exposed to things like that, and get the opportunity to meet with the decision makers that are doing that. It has a profound effect on you and I think we've seen it in the classes before we're seeing it in this current class now, anything that's amazing as what happens in these classes. You know, we talked about pass class members to your current class. The fact that they get to know these other students he's at our last members personally professionally, then next year or two years from now when they're working on important project, and they want to collaborate with somebody else in agriculture. Guess who they're going to exactly exa-, and there is a camaraderie, there between a our alumni and the current class. And you know they do their own reunions. And by the way, our development director, I would be I would I would be I'd be in big trouble. If I didn't Mench are out of here at Crestwood country club, June twenty fourth okay for alumni or supporters alike. So that's some alumni events that we do when we go up to some of these seminars. We have we try and structure and evening with local alumni, that are in the area to come and meet the new class. And if they're in the same class or you know, I it bridges the gap between classes. So there's always the opportunity to continue that networking as well. So you have a big summer lined up events. Tell us a little bit about July and August July and August. We're going to be the grow Mark, July, the girl, Mark global challenges seminar, that is going to be up in Chicago and really is going to be a nice tie in with what we're going to be doing for our, you know, kind of an idea for international or international trip will be in late February March, another thing that we do to prepare for that is the is the Ron only Warfield international seminar about three weeks before we go overseas that will be in February, but we're going to be doing. That in July and then in June. We're going to be having the Marnie Andrius energy and ecosystem seminar, down the Saint Louis metro area and we're going to also while we're down there, be linking up with the Saint Louis anchor business club. They are bringing in a group of legislative aids assistant directors from DC and we're going to be having a an evening there with them as well. So down there in Belleville at Eckardt's. So it's going to be a, a busy summer. They don't come from a programming standpoint. When I start, November, I kind of I remember look lifting my head up from the desk, and the computer screen lightly. Then I put it back down. Again. So the summer does space it out a little bit. But we still want to keep up the we still want to keep up the intensity and the productivity of the program, even though the little bit more spaced out and a little bit more manageable, as far as the seminar scheduled. You know, the other thing I think about is, you know, you guys work on so many. Different areas of the advantages are huge. You want them to stay in agriculture, but you probably have seen a lot of those leaders also spread out ABC other in his and we want them to stay in our industry. But we realized that there's a sense of reality there, and it doesn't happen, very often, we had a member of our class the previous class that has gone into to real estate, and, but that's okay because she's dealing in a rural area, and she's put she says, I'm gonna put so much of my knowledge to work. Yeah. That I've gained from this program. I don't want you to think that she's going to sit idle because it's, it's, it's, it's more than just that Lee leadership, leadership, skills are transferable. Yes. I mean they can they can you can take them anywhere. You want to go, whether it should professional life or your personal life. And that's one of the things that's great about the program. Now, you talked about the application processes. I'm so where are we there? And if somebody hears this and like you know what I'm gonna do that. What step one step one is to go to our website. Aglet or ship dot org. You'll have a link there that you can go to work on your application. Also, there's contact number obviously phone number emails and so forth, you can reach out to us that way. Obviously, there's always going to be questions with the program that has nineteen months, you know, one of the commitments and so forth. That's what staff is here for two to answer your questions. And we'd be more than happy to do that. But once once again, Hagler ship dot org is where you can find the information guests for success and you practice what you preach. Yeah. It's, it's, you know, we, we take pride in how we present ourselves at the same time, though. We realize, and we had a discussion before this class started with our board of directors. There are some changing styles as far as business professional dress. We wanna keep we want to keep current with the times, sometimes you can, you know, maybe be they say you can never overdress, but. Sometimes you want address appropriately for the situation at the same time, we wanna make sure that we maintain that professional, you know, image, if you will and make sure that, you know, we're, we're, we're dressed for the task that is in front of us. You're awesome. Thank you, Mark, you and you also know the CNA jingle from years ago from your what you go. Hey Todd Lowrie is our guest in studio. We surely appreciate a monthly spot from the annoy leadership foundation. We'll be back with congressman Mike boss when we come back. Here's a livestock summary on the RFID radio network. I'm Rita Frazier news reports that BSE, otherwise known as mad cow disease has been discovered in a Brazilian cow does not seem to be sparking a huge rally in the cattle futures, however August. Cattle futures were up one point three percent yesterday. Analysts think that the discovery of the disease may play a big role in redirecting Chinese demand for beef away from Brazil, and perhaps, to the US much will depend on how China responds to this, according to Steiner consulting group. They say Chinese buyers scouring the world to get additional beef as demand in their country far exceed their ability to meet their needs. Domestically should Brazil's in BSE issue continue, the US could be in a position to negotiate the supply of beef. That's your livestock summary on the RFID radio network. How did people benefit from raising livestock, here in Illinois, rich Gebert Illinois farmer president to the Eleanor farm bureau? Grownup on livestock farm was always interesting. And I enjoy it more today than I did back then. But it did give me the opportunity to have a good work ethic learned to get up in the morning and, you know, that was difficult during my senior days at high school and college days, headed tendency, not to go to bed and respectable our, but no, it was always enjoyable on the farm and getting up before daybreak in, Malcolm, the cows and getting the chores done and go about the rest of the day's business. Eleanor farm bureau, along with beat porn milk, pork, and soybean association make up the livestock development group. Supporting the Illinois livestock sector for more information, check out, Eleanor, livestock dot ORG. Welcome back to RFID today on eight Wednesday. I'm Rita phrase. You're joining us for this final segment of today's program. US congressman, Michael boss, representing illinois's twelfth congressional district. Congressman thanks for spending some time. We'll talk trade and other issues. But you tell me you were home of his past weekend. Back in your district where farmers in your area have a lot of work to, to do this spring. Right. Right now. You know, with there's many other active agriculture's were dealing with out there that we're dealing with the, the most important thing on, on the jury of the people of minds that there his weather, we've got a rioting river, that we're getting worried that make crest at I'll let higher level of ninety three level, we were bouncing back and forth between different levee districts talking again yet. Remember in my district. I've got probably more of the Mississippi River aligning my district than anywhere else in the United States got everything from the north, we had a. Trouble with the pump station. Rub around all also the concerns that we have Columbia. We're pretty sure it may breach. And if it does we're trying to work with there right now. Putting rock on the on the high pressure side. So that if it breaches, it doesn't wash arm good farmland away. It may blood washed away. So, yeah, we're working on those issues. But, but we've got several issues here in DC as well for sure. No doubt about it. And I thought you it was last October. I believe when you were with secretary Sonny Perdue in your own district at Akers, we talked about that first round of a market facilitation payments will indifference those made. And now we have a little bit more details. Or at least more information on the market station payments round two. Right. We're moving forward with those ores round to we try to keep through our office people advised. If they're having trouble making sure, you know how the payments are coming and everything like that. We've got a really good staff that tries to, to assist. Of course, the farm bureau does a great job as well as making sure that people are aware of those payments, and how they applied them, you know, some concerns that certain people were having his is the market, a matter of fact, I met with the Barmer specifically, he, he, he maxed out too fast on the last one because of that, you know, you just knowing how to plan and, and how to how to prepare for it for Irina very unique and special district, because you have to really balance in industry with agriculture and trade as certainly a tricky issue. What about China in this particular issue with a trade war that continues, and really, why we're getting negation payments. Right. You know with China. We're most of my people in understanding that China's cheated them as much as any other industry. And so that's why they're they're wanting to get it fixed as quick as possible. But they also know that China's gotta be have, you know, they got to quit messing with our markets. 'cause like what they did with soybeans last year as far as saying that they were gonna make this big purchase. And then, and in short failing are farmers and causing the rate drop that way, as we're negotiating this on the China brunt. Of course, the important thing to remember is we're also on the US emcee. Are you at MC aid that we're working on is now made it to the house? We got ninety days from last week to process through my intent is to boat four, I think it has a tremendous amount of health Borer ABC industry as well as other industries. I hope that the speaker called fairly quickly. We know that Mexico and Canada already on board. The I know it means a lot to the dairy equestrian northern dairy farmers would with the concern of of, you know, candidate has basically had some really strict some strict tariffs on all of our dairy products for longtime, this should negotiate where we can actually. Pete in that market as well. But you know as, as an then in our pork production being used Senate to Mexico. I think that this, this is a kind of a quick thing, the threat with tariffs of the president doing right now. We need to get the US MCA past and, and with the other argument is that the president is having with, with them, as far as the immigration is my hope that we get through that really quickly, certainly a lot to digest, no doubt about it. So as we talk here with you this first week of June. What are couple of other things that, that you're focusing on? Well, let me tell you that the right now we're working on the the bail act. Like I did before, remember that the bail act increased the loan loan guarantee from. Well, when we first started working on from seventy seven hundred fifty thousand two two point two five million of because that that that year. In that, you know, everybody that's listening here. The knows knows that, that seven hundred fifty wasn't much we were able to get in the arm Bill, an increased one point seven five, which is which is good. But that's still wasn't that two point two five. And so we're I'm hearing Bill still pushing for that two point two five you when you can you can go through two point two five million in a as a new armor, pretty quickly right now. Everybody understands that with the cost of everything from planner to combine the tractors, not counting overhead, as far as storage facilities, and things like that. So we're trying to get that through we're, hopefully we'll get a positive reaction about certainly have your hands full note. No question about it. Anything else for for farmers? We haven't met a minute left here. We're gonna continue to work with and for the former's of farmers here in the state of Illinois. Remember that as we're negotiating this white? Often it, you know, we talk about raiding livestock end or green, but the, the diversity that occurs all around this nation. You know, we've got a lot of those competing factors. But we've got to make sure that what our markets, we make sure that the trade goes on. And like I bet early on, we've got to continue to work right now to try to get through this blood season and what we can salvage of the crops, and, and who can get their crops in. And when they get him in Representative for Eleanor twelfth congressional district US congressman Myklebust, congressman, thanks for your time angry. Appreciate have grading. More farm news and information ahead fate tuned for more RFID today here on the Eleanor farm bureau radio network radio. It's been here all along, you know, which station is going to tell you the score of the game where to turn when the weather gets rough when something big happens. Good or bad. 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