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Will Smith, Martin Lawrence, Rob Lowe

Ellen on the Go

31:25 min | 8 months ago

Will Smith, Martin Lawrence, Rob Lowe

"The high it's it's Ellen Degeneres. Welcome to my podcast. We're GONNA listen to some of the best moments from the show and it's GonNa be hosted by four executive producers that I love happy be listening on today's episode of Ellen on the go big big movie star Will Smith and Martin Lawrence five second rule so fun to see them together. Rob Blow Son trolls him from backstage and our own average Andy teaches us about his amazing slow walk exercise program. It's it's a crazy you can say it it. It is a craze of Trieste of just a few a few mighty people all happening today on on Ellen on the go. I'm Mary Connolly. I am in the second. Edward Patrick Lavin Andy. Host gator Chubb Club everyone laughs rosy when the Sir I was not. That's what I was wondering. If you're not kidding me I was so fat. You you joke. It's always fun. When Will Smith comes in? Does our show keys yes. It is always fun energy. He is a pile of energy is a pile L. of energy. The audience loves it. He seems to love interacting with the audience. He Loves Ellen. Illinois's gets a kick out of him and and this time he brought his co-star from the bad boys movies. Martin Lawrence and the audience went insane when the two of them walked out together. I did not know that Martin Lawrence Got Will Smith the role on that either. I didn't know that either. That was a cool story that I had no idea case super cool at the time of the first movie Martin Lawrence was the bigger star. It was his movie and he got to pick. Who is co star was going to be? And the way Martin Lawrence said on the show and we'll we'll play a clip of it but with the way he said that was the smartest thing I ever did him. Yeah I love that. Yeah that was really cool. It was they were. They were fun to watch today. Really friendship and such chemistry in the brakes wheels like insane. Yeah we've probably probably does movies and stuff. He hasn't had that audience. Instant energy. Like it's so much since all his songs goes up in the audience and of course that'd be fun. A solution is Martin. Lawrence has been doing stand up entitled all the way through. Never stop all the way through has been doing together the way they sort of just ways he was so dry and so funny so funny well you know will. Smith is talking about all these things on his bucket. List like jumping out of planes and scuba diving. Angie jumping and like Martin Lawrence is like when you're out of your mind movie like stop jumping out of planes exactly like we need you to live so we can shoot this and also the fact that he was like no I don't do my own. Stunts even will admitted that he did like four days of stunts and that was like yeah that's bringing the young uh-huh so here's a little bit of Will Smith Martin Lawrence and Ellen first of all. It's great to see you. The audience didn't know you were here. So they're excited because aw excited anyway but this is an extra special excitement. Because they didn't know and people I mean they. They must go crazy when they see you two together. It's been it's been really special like we. We shot awesome pieces in Atlanta and just people seeing us together on the street. There's like this really magical thing with bad boys is that I. I didn't know that people had that kind of energy towards it but well we back. We hear so the first time you all met. How will we all when you did? The first movie. Eighty twenty twenty-five when we first Oh man ah we will have no muscle density. I waited about ninety pounds. y'All we're bad boys. Yeah you better not commit any crime not when that belt Komo we've got belts on but it was. It was something that you actually really were in the movie. Cast the movie and that was your idea to bring willin right. Yes my sister Ray She brought to my attention and and she was like you should do. The movie will will so I call will and we set up a dental came to my house and then you know five minutes after talking to will he got the job. How would you like? It was like one of the best things I've done in no now the franchise. You can't do it without them now. The two of you together a fantastic but yes five minutes with will and he will charm. I was going to say the pants off read. The parents guide their great l.. Them so that's why we had to have play five second rule together. They're going to be that good. Just chatting you. Want to see the competitive additive. So fun it was a really. Do we have it on. Do we have it on tape to have three. We on son of media media three rewind three no three to one solid. Mary really solid good. Good search. All right here's what happens. You have five seconds to name three things in the category name. Okay will name three things a bad boy. Do I would do you get in a fight. Kiss a beautiful girl and you speak strikes body. It's a beautiful was better than you sprayed. Somebody I the all right Martin. Name three things are good boy would do take care of his mother do his homework and call his family Well yes water letter Martin's three daughters names gotta daughter. I don't know Martin's three daughters others names that's three can't tames trade Jay Willow it. Thanks a lot see the better friend the three things you wish Ellen wouldn't have asked you on. TV Get's three pickup lines go girly. Serbia feet must be tired. Because you've been running through my mind all day. It's all right Martin. Three things people say when they see you on the street where Gina and when are are you doing a next step back three other words for but but Landon Foodie Gutai take mine three things. You Can Jingle keys bales and there are shows and films you like there are shows and films you love then there are truly special ones you cannot get enough above. I'm obsessed with. This is a podcast about those shows hosted by Bobby Finger writer and Co host of who weekly each episode features a special guest who has chosen chosen a title as their current obsession. These ranged from reality shows like terraced house chosen by Nancy Co host Tobin low to films like between two ferns. The movie chosen by a Black Lady. Sketch show writer Lauren. Actually Smith the conversations often move beyond the net flicks title and onto the guests larger more existential obsessions a good example was when an Friedman went from discussing the movie tall girl to what it was like to be obsessed with her height throughout high school every episodes net flicks obsession is as unique unique as each of the shows guests in December. They'll tackle the world of net flex holiday content from the Christmas prince trilogy to new entrance like the night before Christmas. Smith's new episodes of I'm obsessed with this are released. Every Tuesday subscribe now on Apple. PODCAST spotify Stitcher podcasts. Or wherever else you listen to podcasts. By the way if you're listening to us today that the podcast come out happy. Thursday December twelfth. Yeah this is your last night to see owns unscripted giveaways. I hope I hope you guys have had a chance to watch the first two nights. If you haven't what are you doing with your life right. What holiday fun you? Yeah now anything fun. You don't WanNa be watching holiday. You don't want to be making holiday mistake no at this year. This is not the year people eight Christmas Eve. You Watch it's a wonderful life. Jeff December twelfth. You Watch Justin Timberlake Ellen. Degeneres Jason Momoa. Give away some insane gifts creative night of giveaway on NBC. And then you know. Just take a second with your kids and watch the grinch who stole Christmas because it's a wonderful holiday special. That's my absolute all time favorite. It is so Cindy Lou. Who is that right? Little Cindy Lou. Who who was just barely two at such a good movie I never saw? You've never seen the grinch who stole Christmas now cartoon version now. I've only seen who snoopy. I've only seen snoopy Christmas. The cats you've never seen the grinch who stole Christmas. PS Guzman's has also andy spoiler alert. At the end of the grinch. The grinch brings all of the toys back to the town and he even cuts the roast beast. Wow well now I feel like I know the yeah. Oh it's so good. I'm assuming you're a mean do when you grow up to as you don't watch Christmas. Is that the problem I know you do. But when you grow up Orthodox Jewish like I did. You don't ice you know it's like most Jews. I knew went trick or treating I did not. It was considered Pagan holiday. So I didn't do. That and Christmas was just nothing. It was like it was fully Christian and then you realize there are a a lot of people don't consider themselves religious or even Christian at all have Christmas trees and stuff. But you don't know that as a kid at it as a child. The way I grew up the Christmas tree was like Jesus Christ that that was Christ. Gotcha Gotcha back in the sixties and seventies and eighties especially the sixties and Seventies. Your world was in a four or five block radius like there was no twitter. And so you didn't wake up and see what was happening in Australia right. Andy did you. watch puppets Christmas Carol. No I didn't want to authorize the Santa's at Bloomingdale's and Kimble's which was a and I would so jealous of all of it. It was also bright. It's a wonderful life. Yes I loved it. I didn't see adulthood. I loved such a good demo tape. Ah On kringle yeah. I've seen it all and you know I I as I've said many times the soonest Thanksgiving's is over my cars. I'm listening to Christmas music. I love it all. Yeah that's true. I love it but as a kid I loved the to just walk into use yours. Yeah of Jesus Christmas Music Christmas Christmas music. Oh the the. I just adore this woman. Yes case screen and voice. She is blowing up into a big chunk uh-huh throwback she looks like she's just she's fantastic. Choose a holiday Christmas special on Yup and she sang Christmas showing on our show. Yeah the saddest Chris. I believe he's called. Christmas makes me cry right like like Elvis Presley going like blue Christmas. You think. Well that's kind of sad song or Christmas baby. Please come home maybe a little sad. Nothing compared to Christmas makes me crying now. Even she was sad song. Do you know the song I think it's called the red shoes the Christmas song now sadder let me just single quick stanza. Can I buy the shoes from a Mama please. The doctor says there's not much time now. Oh Oh to go by red shoes. It is the worst Christmas Song of all time. And so listen to it. This is my favorite song. Do you guys know that Christmas Song by Carney Wilson and her sister. Wendy Wilson. How do I stop it because I don't know? Hey Santa Hey Hey that's your favorite hands-on love it and it's I know it's late entry. I like all the classics. I mean drummer. Oh boy and everything but I do love. I love dreaming of a White Christmas. I love sleigh bells which one happy so so this is Christmas. This is Bruce springsteen one andy. Have you ever want good but guys for Traditional National Christmas folks if you haven't heard Hey Santa by Carney Wilson and her sister Wendy. It's excellent or red shoes. If you terrible twos if you WANNA break your heart have have you wanted to. Have you watched the film White Christmas Gerena Nova and I don't think so who's in it. Cut its its bing crosby rosemary. Clooney at one time I think is not very Christmassy right. Well it it It's about them like on the road show business and AH last Christmas putting on a Christmas show last Christmas by. Oh my God that would make a great movie. They made it idiot. Who starred in it Khalidi really really million clock? Wait the ones that right. Now which torch Michael George Michael Snyder. Rip You should go to my spotify. I have two great Christmas playlist of songs that you would love like we'll go to it. Can the people listening to the PODCAST. You're I think my I'll make sure my playlist public. They're both called Christmas. And they're really excited. Kevin Kevin said he's working on Konica like a playlist for me and so I'm excited to hear that and share with our listeners can put together a Hanukkah playlist my starts with Adam Sandler Sandler's and learn Chris. Hanukkah songs are. Would you leave him joy silver but Julie Silver Yeah as a whole has a Hanukkah cd that is correct where Barnes or noble approach Julie Silver about putting together a Hanukkah CD. That I'd love to they said there's there's one song that has to be on the CD and she goes. I won't won't do it right and they go. There's one sewing you have to have on the CG don't care what else you have she goes. I don't WanNa do it was it was The drill song had us the data title. Songo oh she goes out of class. I don't WanNa wait drills on. Why they she they said it's a deal breaker? You have to have the Drapeau song young and she goes. What if I changed the words and the melody and they're like fine? Change the words in the melody it just has to be on the back of their and so she did the drill song like a like a Bonnie honey rate like wow that would I mean. I don't know if it's on spotify but it certainly on apple Let me look all right. Okay boomer I had it all tune so that doesn't exist any but dreidel all song it's on it's on Julie Silvers satisfy spotify all right there so long time it's called it's Hanukkah time. Have a little I made it out. Clearly it's dry and ready. Oh Yeah are you interested in enjoying doing some delicious. Salsa this holiday season made fresh from farmers market ingredients in shipped directly to you look no further than salsa basket with quality flavors. 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Correct was so funny so good and he's really good. He's so funny but Yeah Rob Lowe on his instagram. If you don't follow Roblo blow it's so funny because this kid always comments yes. They're so precise and hilarious. I'm so ripping. His Dad trials them for like deliberately posted in front of all his his enemies. Right it was really fun. We have like a livestream doing backstage. He could watch the show as happening. And then just like like pop up video remembers his digs. Were just like popping up on the screen. The Nolan when an rob could react most fun rob lowe segment. We've had in a while. It was really fun. It was really fun. And we'll we'll we'll we're GONNA play you. Part of the interview should should also go watch it on your DVR. So Johnny is first of all. He's writing for Ryan Murphy and remind me again when he went to college for. This is my son John Owen. He graduated with straight A.'s at Stanford got in because he was the earliest intern. Road stem cell laboratory got out. It decided he wanted to be in Hollywood and I wanted to kill myself. But he's working. He's not like you know he's working for Ryan Murphy. He's he's writing. He's he's a very smart kid doing doing great and Matthew Matthew. Oh my oldest just passed the bar. California that's fantastic custom world and he's carrying on a good legacy because my dad's an attorney and I only play them on television. That's right well you play them. Well all right so Janis backstage. Because because his boys basically always comment on your instagram posts. The only I think is the kids. Yes they do they train so Johnny Johnny. Johnny is backstage right now. Now and so he's going to watch this entire interview comment as as we go. It's GONNA be brutal so yeah all right so let's just talk about first of all. Let's start with this johnny. This'll me a good one People's sexiest man. Alive issue. You are in here for sexy at every age. Yeah see I think. The at every age thing is kind of a backhanded compliment. Well it's a compliment. It doesn't matter. It means you sexy at every but you could've been like Oh what's happening. He's writing in my fifties. Thanks Johnny I know how old I am. You should ask how many times you know he's been on the cover you haven't been on the cover and it's not not for lack of example. Let's show some examples of what somebody should have scene to put him on the cover. There's never been there that mental life. There's that there's that never have. I been never been somebody's cigarette. You're very angry about it. I think the only reason I have not been sexiest man alive I. I've spent a lot of time thinking about it. I blame Russian collusion off. Instrument Affi is the perfect heartfelt handcrafted gifts to show someone you care made in Grand Junction Colorado. There toffee is a family recipe. That's been passed down for four generations. That's pretty cool that's cool. That is my dad grew up in buffalo and they had toffee across. You could only get across the Niagara over in Canada data so every summer we used to drive over and get that like what is the best. Get so nice like it's just like a nice thoughtful gift. Yes giving the gift of Instrument Almond toffee with its high equality. Natural ingredients creates beautiful and special moments all year long shop engstrom coffee and other sweet treats at Instrument Dot Com Slash Ellen and receive up to twenty percent. Turn off your first order using Promo Code Ellen. All right now. Let's talk about Andy so andy has been. I've known I've non Andy Long Longtime Andy has been on twitter pretty much since twitter's inception and over the years I would say that his commitment onto twitter has eclipsed every other thing in his life including his wife and at work and in the process. That's he's become a bit of a celebrity. He's definitely twitter influence or he has a massive ellen. Tortures me on the show. That's why people know me. And so and so but he's always only stuck like he got off a facebook. He is always only been on twitter. That's his thing twitter and and has been loud and proud about. I'm only gonNA do twitter right. That changed about a month ago. Two months ago months ago I was getting hounded by our mutual friend. Who kept saying you? You'd be good. Just start an account. You don't have to post anything starting to count and he was right. It's a happier funner place for me than twitter and so and so two. Graham instrument penalized other than Kevin Leman. Everyone is nice to me on. Nobody knows how to work a social media account like Andy does honestly. I don't know anyone who is as prolific and proficient at managing a social media account than Andy. Right now he he has not been on instagram. And while I have been on Instagram for years in his first day on instagram he quadrupled my father workout again. Because People Know Ellen torture as you are You are a celebrity and he was using every day and I thought bad. Wow Andy is posting instagram. Every single day. which is not everyone posts? You know big accounts like stories. I still don't really then here. We are two Munson and today by the time I got to work andy already posted four videos Andy. Do you want to tell everybody about your slow walking craze. We pay clip. We'll play a clip of one of the videos because it's just interesting idea picture walking talking walking slowly. There's another celebrity on this show that has been getting into the workout craze. And if you follow him on Instagram you can follow along with him. Here's a here's the recent video from him. It's it's a way of life diet fitness exercise. I think give it as a lifestyle. Don't run when you can slow walk. What's the rush anyway? It's like five thirty in the morning here. Why am I up this early because I want to feel good today and because occasionally I look in the mirror and thank go bra and so what happened? Andy how how is the original thing that how it started was it was Chrissy. teigen's birthday and I decided to try the video function and send her a happy birthday video from the treadmill I may have within moments. Ed Glavin response that a single worst angle knocking on TV. However many years? And you're shooting yourself up and it's so unflattering and the GUM Minnie mouse. So then I responded to that video where I shot at a better angle and then I realized that that whole event took up a half hour of me walking on the treadmill mill and tiny time killer and so then people were like. Are you really using the treadmill and then I got on the next day and just talked about that. I'm just GONNA walk because like a lot of people I have joined gyms in my lifetime. I have hired personal trainers. I bought expensive workout clothing. I've had goals of losing weight. I've had diets and I fail within three weeks so I figured how can I failed by just walking and walking other than playing hockey once a week I I do physical exercise and I'm at an age where I gotta start doing something so I figured I'm just GonNa Walk and walking is still more than I'm doing. Now walking's walking. The walking isn't really the reason to watch that he is funny. They're funny but it's also inspiring up at five fifteen in the morning getting some exercise. Yeah he's not just tweeting exhibits not just rage. tweeting the president now. But it's a good and here's the other thing I'll just say. And maybe this is old news to everyone what I've done in the past to try and lose weight because I hate exercising is what I would do is just go on crazy diet. It's an skippy exercise. Bart and it would not not motivate me in any way shape or form to exercise but the reverse is true. I was not going to do any dieting. I just wanted to do a little exercise but after I walk and feel good about myself I feel better about wanting to eat. Good things So it's had the effect where I I just walked on a treadmill I sweat. I felt like like I've done something good but look for his instagram where he's having a donut exactly diet. But I am GonNa treat myself occasionally but I'm GonNa try and just be make better choices. Does your treadmill have a calorie counter for how much you burn. Yes what are we up to. I've done like three fifty three sixty in one walk. Yeah but those are the long walks. Well yeah that's a lot of calories Are you putting in fifty. Is that while you're running. All those counties you you don't need I don't need it. Thanks man. I don't deserve it the truth. No fillings Lou deserves. Yeah so I love it. I mean if you're listening to this podcast there's a high probability that you follow Andy on either twitter or instagram or both I'm telling you that if you don't it is my favorite thing about. Twitter is following Andy and it's becoming. I resent myself for even saying it's. It's becoming my favorite thing about instagram really. He's really sweet. He's really because he's two different people. He does know on twitter. He just biting man. He's he's biting and I love it because we have the same worldview on instagram. He just frigging funny. He's just funny and so people have reached out saying that. You're you a bit of an inspiration. That was the scariest suit. Started it as a complete joke to make fun of myself and I realized there's a lot of people like us who are but in in just an absolutely amazing moment ellen. Oh my God Oh Yeah Ellen the Senate video of her on her treadmill which I post being my insult to hop in on your craze to follow follow your love it. I love to be one of your devotees. Yeah Ellen and you know. As soon as she stopped taping that video she cranked it. Right up and started. sprinting sprinting. On her case is ls she goes through phases. where she's either working or not working out when Ellen is working out? Yeah he's bad asks us around she's in it to be fit. Yeah and by the way it's you can't be on this if you're listening but ellen and Andy on techs chain together very funny we have a group of us. Andy says things like yes. I'll allow you to come in later. Ellen doesn't move in a New York minute so fast all right well. What else do we want this week? I just this excellent once again. A reminder that the final night of eggnog Allen's greatest night giveaways on NBC eight o'clock and those of us in watching. Thank you so much. Where so much? So the feedback from every it's a holiday feel good whole family show. 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Ep. 88 Bad Boys For Life Review

Plaza Podcast

34:00 min | 7 months ago

Ep. 88 Bad Boys For Life Review

"Welcome to the plaza. podcast episode eighty-eight. My Name's Chris and I'm Joel. Thank you to all the applause. Lots of people that Support on patriotic. And all the people that Go in review us on apple podcast and all that stuff we really appreciate. It helps Just just get the show out there and helps us. You know pop up faster when people are looking for you know podcasts. Having to do with movie reviews. And so if you'd like to help us out you can can go To wherever you listen to us whether it be spotify apple podcast Google podcast. Whatever just go Hit US up. Give us a review. You and also we Mentioning Are Plaza piece that supports on Patriae on you can go onto our patriots page and we actually have several different. Aren't tears that you can be a part of where we have movie Free movies every month or concession discounts Whatever it may be that you're interested interested in just go? Check us out on our patriot. which is pitcher on Dot Com forward Slash Plaza cinema for? We'd also like to thank our sponsor next level laser tag a new company serving wise surrounding counties. Call nine four zero six to seven next to book your Mobile Party today or check their website out but at www dot next level laser tag dot com. Okay well today. In this episode we will be reviewing bad boys for life. The third movie of this franchise official trilogy. Yeah and These movies have kind of there. They've kind of have spread out and win. They've came out like there's is I think from this one from the last ones like a seventeen year. Gal Oh yeah because the very first one came out Nyat thank ninety six. Okay I was thinking either very late nineties or early two thousand so and so from from bad boys two two. This one has been seventeen years since the last one thing. Then that's crazy crazy crazy to think about now me personally And I think I discussed this in the last episode when we were mentioning that we were going to be reviewing this. I believe back back then when the first one came out like I wasn't even old enough to watch a rated R. movie in a theater so this to me was like one of my first movies that I watched that was rated R.. That I can remember so bad boys one. I can rule literally remember from till now I was only like four so I definitely wasn't watching but I enjoyed it. It was really good to me and I really liked it and if I'm not mistaken when I was obviously when I was older bad bad boys two had come out and that was obviously when I. It wouldn't theaters. Could go watch it in theaters and I watched that one as well investigators. So as a whole I'm a fan of the franchise ochre I liked it While I like bad boys the first two and I know people give like bad toys too They think that that's the worst. And I think the first two was directed by Michael Bay. So obviously it's very Michael. Michael Bay is. That's our new thing is is just bash. Yes seriously I mean what else do you say. Yeah it sums up everything he he does the crazy over the top action Cart Slo Mo car cut scene. I mean just real fast cut scenes everywhere on you know all all that so but this bad boys for life is not directed by Michael Bay but it has a little bit of Michael Bay. Feel your does. I bet. Most those people wouldn't know it's not direct by the same person right because they do make it feel a lot the same at least they do Now let's I mean let's get into this This movie here. If I'm not mistaken was it's like it's obviously so many years later in their career It doesn't it doesn't say it doesn't open up saying it just opens up cold Turkey so yeah You don't you don't really know. Somehow they're still you know they're still cops are still running around gun in running all that crazy stuff and and and here's the thing I love how I love the chemistry will Smith and Martin Lawrence have. Oh yeah that they are hilarious. Be He. I mean the if it wasn't for their dynamic and their interactions with each other this movie he is not for me at all. I mean even these movies aren't my cup of tea necessarily right. So if it honestly for Martin if Martin Martin Lawrence wasn't in it I probably 'cause he's the funniest one I think he is. He you have will Smith. He's more of the serious wanting to Get stuff done joe cool. Yeah and but Martin Lawrence who What's his name SARS W I think in the movie Oh man I can't remember but anyways he's more of like the no I'm not I don't want to be a part of this. But he gets drug into everything and so that lets him be able to do a lot more of the comedy aspect of it like more of the the funny lines and stuff so yeah if it wasn't for him I definitely there would be nothing to light for me. Yeah and I actually jokes wise I. They had a lot of jokes. Yeah this There were a lot of comedic scenes that I was actually kind of laughing so this was this. This was entertaining. Funny Wise and I actually thought the jokes were better in this one. Then bad boys two For sure so oh I I knew going into this movie I was probably going to like it but I obviously as Leon knew I was going to be comparing it to the first even though I don't know if you've been reading but they're really saying this is a sequel. They're mentioning because a bad boys two. So so they're saying what they're saying that this is a sequel to too bad boys. I mean okay. So the critical critics consensus on rotten. Tomatoes I want to say some of the critics and I don't know if they're you're getting it wrong or not but it sounds like they're not even comparing bad boys one. Oh 'cause one one person has four a sequel. That comes seventeen years later after bad boys two which was awful. Bad Bad boys for life is surprisingly entertaining. Okay so yeah. They're they're just calling it. A A sequel to the the franchise. Yeah yeah not meaning like the second movie but yeah so yeah I mean to to come this far like like it's it's been seventeen years and to come out and be I don't know not something that's boring. Bring in slow and just out of nowhere it it kind of it felt like it was an okay movie like it. It wasn't one that you're like. Oh why did they make AAC this like there is still a little bit of story. I think well tell part like exactly what you said story. This one had a better story than the last ones. Because because what was the last one's going through I think what more cartel drugs drug dealers and stuff like that this one. They made a a lot more personal. Yeah the they gave the characters challenges are yes. Yeah everything it meant. More in there was a lot of surprises like all. I can say those kind of soap opera. It was. There was one shock shocking scene. That kinda got me like I was like no Oh and all I'm GonNa say it was the basketball scene. Oh Yeah Yeah. I was surprised about that too. Yeah I didn't see that coming. Yeah so there were some Nice. There's some shocking and surprising them moments. the INTRO. I didn't get it all. I'm thinking about him like were they being led police or were they being chase. It looked like they're being chased and I think they made it look like that but then it makes like what are the what. You didn't see anything when they pulled up. No yeah so I that one yeah so shoes lose those like what is going on. Are they like chasing bad guys while they're also rushing at the same time because he wasn't a police escort because they were in front. Yeah exactly yeah so I was just like what just happened. I had no clue what's going on that one. I think that one was like way out out there because right after that it just takes a completely different direction. Yeah they they want you to like just intro with actions. So they're like what can we think like they. They purposely obviously tried to make it look like they were being chased but then when you realize they're obviously not. What was the purpose? Yeah I think they could. I think the one thing they could have been done better was a better intro or just have like it. Show the COPS. chancing bad guys while they're inbetween them or something so you okay. They're doing separate. I don't know because it didn't make any sense. Not at all that is one of the gripes. I really had with this because it was just like. I'm trying to put it together and then all of a sudden it changes and I'm like what and it like even Martin Lawrence's character. I just can't think of his name name. His character is watching a soap opera. Any makes a reference to you so you want to know my Martin. Lawrence's characters name. Yeah Yeah Gotcha Albee. I'll pull it up okay. I can't Oh Marcus. Marcus yes thank you. Go arcus Burnett Bennett Burnett. Oh I don't know I don't even know his first. His Name Will Smith Michael Ari oury. Yeah so when he makes reference to it being soap opera. And that's kind of what I thought like it. The movie did feel like a soap opera. Like the story. The kind of twists that happen. It's very soap. Opera ish to me which I mean I mean if you understand. They're not going for super serious or realistic than I think. You can have. Fun with it. it's it's it's better than the fast and furious movies. I'll say that like yes. So the fast and furious they try to be serious and funny and all this other stuff in crazy eddie. And they're fun and they're funny I think is they try too hard. This this This funny right here is just like natural roll. Yeah because of how good Martin Lawrence Their Chemistry. Ah That's the thing you can tell. They're actually really friends. Yeah because with the fast and the furious franchise which I don't think this is ever GonNa die. Yeah no I've diesel is going to be eight years old too fast and furious. That's what's going to happen fifty and he'll he'll still or vin diesel. Yeah he'll still be wanting to release it on his twitter because he thinks he's as big as the rock and he tries to be this media guy that no you're not you're not very popular. Sorry VIN diesel. You tried but those days are over and great of an actor. Oh no no. I don't think anyone thinks so. But anyways like because yeah he's he's Because of their chemistry. And how How you can tell? They're having fun in the movie. Yeah that's that's what makes it like I. I don't care about the action in this movie. It's it's okay it's whatever yeah I don't really care about the story that much. All I'm wanting to see is like the two friends make jokes about each other while they're Solvent case it's mainly about the low and luckily it's gets a lot of them yeah thankfully There was a little slow part when stuff goes down and they're kind of split up for a while. Yeah I was like like like for me at least it kind of slowed down a little bit and It made the move feel a lot longer than I mean. It is kind of along for an action comedy. It's like over two hours right yells at like two thirteen or something. Yeah but actually credits hit like an hour and fifty six six minutes. Okay we we basically we have to. We add about ten minutes of trailer previews so we add that extra time so when we do our times we put it in. We have enough time to clean. Okay so so really I guess you can say when you look at our times or the run time for each movie. They're a little bit inflated. Okay okay well including the trailers advertising. Okay cool well even though it is under two hours it for me it felt long. I don't I know I know you. You like the franchise a lot more. I don't know if it felt like that for us to be honest. No it didn't really feel like that And you felt the pacing thought. The pacing was Pretty decent and now now what. There's is one part I think it's whenever you hear. The bad boys. Finally here the bed voice. Yeah that I have see. I have have the IPAD so I can watch the timeframe and that's how I know literally how it was kind of IRA. He was Kinda Weird. That thing like hit like literally at the one hour. Mark Okay I think that's just something that I noticed because I was sitting there. I just happened to look over to see. And that's like right when you hear that when the yeah and to me that felt like it was already so far into the movie. That's funny. Yeah so if you're a fan I think it it obviously is jus- this is good if not better than the others. So if you if you're like you said if you're a fan and you loved the first two you're gonNA love this. I mean hands down. You're GONNA love it. There's Yeah No. I don't think there's no question about it because I liked this movie. I I enjoyed it really really well. And now if you're not a big fan or or you haven't really seen it. I think you will enjoy. It's still as well. Because if you're if you're a fan of will smith or Martin Lawrence in both then you're already already going to like this and of course if you are big action fan you love the big explosions and stuff like that. And even if you like the fast and furious franchise. This is still something. You're GonNa like so similar tone so what I'm trying to say. Is I think this reaches a lot of people that it's going to enjoy this movie because of the the are It wasn't a hard are like there wasn't I mean there's language there are some pretty gruesome violence. Yeah But like I I didn't feel like it was R.. Rated as like the second one I think the second one had a lot more I think. Yeah I think it did well the and that was the thing on this one. It did get toned down a little bit. And I think they I think they did it purposely asleep because of their older. They're more mature back. Then it was they were the hot shot running their mouth running their mouth kind of thing so so I think it I think he kinda grew and their maturity has set in. So it's I think that has something to do with it. I could definitely see that makes sense. Because they're they're they're kind of during this movie they have other people that are basically kind of like them but in the younger were proven their age they are man. I'm Old uh-huh uh yeah which I found that was kind of cool and that and that actually dynamic right. They're adding that group called Ammo like you just said I was I thought it was a nice nice touch. SEE FOR ME I. I didn't really care about those characters so I was like I guess Vanessa Hudgens and the the guy the guy was he in the boxing. Movie Dorn. Yeah he was the big Alexander Ludwig Hedwig yet the blond guy he he looked like the guy from creed the to almost but well is pretty was also he was also one of the guys he he was He played in the Hunger Games ochre. Well he's Jack He's yeah 'cause that's the thing he Well he played in like lone survivor Trying to see grownups two he played in he was in midway. That's well yeah all you have all these characters and you don't I don't know I just didn't feel I felt they kind of took away from. I guess the spotlight a little bit. But they weren't because I mean Martin Lawrence and will Smith are old and yet tell like A lot of the action scenes. You could tell like okay. They definitely needed some stunt doubles for that stuff. Oh Yeah Martin Lawrence there is one. I caught where it looked like. He had lost like fifteen pounds and one of the shots. I was like a little bit as a lot so I guess they needed ammo. Yes obviously those those two old guys couldn't have got it done it. We wouldn't look as a real yes but still for me. It was that that The fact that the police had a department that that high tech was a little over the top house like this is like some secret agent type stuff. Yeah what we're talking about live down. There was like shield. Yeah they had all this they all he had to do is type in words like all of this information was spinning. We're like in my six. Yeah exactly something that crazy in the police department was like what I mean. I gotta just go with it. Obviously it's like I said this isn't trying to be a super serious. Like No. You gotTa just let Bullshit. This is all for entertainment. And and you gotta look at to January very again not a good month for movies but you know what this is going to be a solid January movie that yeah I would definitely watch this over probably anything else else coming out like or underwater. Yeah I think this this. Yeah this one's going to be a really good movie to watch. I think and with not not really anything big coming out not until February everywhere. Actually Valentine's Day because those the two movies that are coming out. Sonic the hedgehog which any sonic fans sans basically in birds of prey to birds of prey with Harley Quinn. There's not really anything coming out till then and so I think ain't bad. Voice has a nice little stretch to make some money. And I'm actually I can't remember what the prediction gene is. Let's see so I'm GonNa Guess Twenty million that that would be insane. I bet if they get that high. But I'm GONNA guess I mean unless this is just a horrible movie month like no one wanted to watch movies but let's see here fifteen in maybe I probably projected to high Actually there are the for the four day tracking on this Thursday Kosovo's Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday The performance are looking around the thirty eight million million. Okay which not bad just because of what's coming out for a movie like this it didn't end the thing is it was a ninety million dollar budget. Oh that's that's low. Well that is. I wasn't thinking that high on really. I thought I was expecting low over one hundred so I thought this was a lower but it can but its range yeah they're ranging between between thirty two and forty eight million for the weekend while the better hit high because groped some money but like I said has a good chance whenever there's not a whole lot of competition out there right now at least two or three weeks. Yeah now Rotten tomatoes the critics. Have it at seventy five. WHOA really finally? Yeah Oh my gosh. That's surprising when not audiences Eighty Ninety six. WHOA WOW so? People are loving this audiences eleven is I think there's a I. I think there's a big fan base for this. Yes I think it's more because of wealth Martin Lawrence but I think they have a such a huge following and people love. Will Smith movies really early. Besides Jimmy man wants all that and went and saw that one I think that's why they have it a good and to be honest us. I'm going to rate this. A little high okay. Okay go ahead I wanNA hear. I'm giving it a nine. Yeah very high for. Yeah Yeah I don't give a lot of high high rates but I really enjoy this movie. And like I said it's because I like the franchise You know I I can get away with granted you could tell on some of the scenes especially like the motorcycle scene. There was a Lotta rain screen and everything I yeah. I can kind of overlook that is a split second kind of thing. I can overlook that I I was very entertained. I laughed quite a bit and I love the movie. So I'm GonNa give it that and so I mean I I have to. It's just it's that's your pretty consistent with the fans at least for me. Obviously I'm not. I'm not nearly as high on it it but I like I said I'm not a fan of the franchise but even though I'm not it was a kind of entertaining I mean so you like like we've been saying the whole review Martin Lawrence and will Smith latest have really good chemistry Martin Lawrence it's hilarious and so thanks to Martin Lawrence. This isn't dumpster fire so for me I'm GONNA give it a solid six. Wow it's so this is Joel's it's still technically passing grade. Just oh I'm really surprised. She went that aloe really that we. This is probably our first by the way this. I think this is our first episode that you we are like way off. This is probably the furthest yes we've been but like you said this this type of movie is not your J- pretty much. Your time almost have opposite like I'm like those small Mall Niche type films that like almost like independent weird and then so I can like some good action movies too like a correct. Yeah John Wick mission impossible. Those aren't but just for ME I. It's hard I don't know when I see movies action films that that do it so much. I guess more realistic. Or here's here's the here's the cool thing and I think this is by the way and I'm not trying to toot our own horn but I think that's what makes our podcast so much more unique because we have two completely different likes in ways to look at a movie and because if we had the same outlook on a movie I think it'd be a little boring but we we can both take the same movie. See the same thing and we can look at it in completely different lights. Yeah but still kind of end up having some stuff that kind of intertwined line that match but at the end of the day. It's just like you get a completely massive range of the way we both look at an interpret movies and it's just fun like it is. We don't have to like the same thing so but yeah I mean a lot of people are obviously are liking it so I'm probably going to be some Kind of the minority. So you're right but I that's awesome though I kind of I mean I liked your how I'd rather you be honest about doubt it but I knew I was going to go ahead of feeling I was going to be high on this one versus you i. To be honest I really thought you were going to give it Between seven point five and eight. That's where I was thinking you were GonNa go You went further down. Yeah I I honestly like until during that middle part where I said it slowed down. Yeah I was like Oh man this is like five type of movie but then and at the end when they came back together and there are several funny parts with Martin Lawrence. I was like okay. That's that's what I want to see like more of that and so it kind kind of bumped it up a little so that's good. Yeah well that's awesome That's that's that's going to be are bad boys review now how to get into to kind of wrap up some things some things at you know. Maybe other movie talks and movie movie news. I don't know if they anything that you heard. Or you've seen but I just kind of wanted to bring some stuff up too. So this year member the Godzilla vs King kongs coming out. Oh Yeah Yeah. I don't know if you've heard but and I've kind of I've kind of suspected this but I think there's been a leak on there's going to basically be a villain so this whole thing of them part kind of like. It's going to be the Batman. v Superman thing right because you gotta look at it like this you have fans of King Kong and Godzilla. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA take off off one fan base if one of them wins versus the other and the leak has been since I believe it was in Japan because of some toys being released that there's has been the Mecca Godzilla. I mean. You could see that from the last one right guy goes in and so it seems or so it seems like orb they bring back King Gadara since at like at the end they had the severed head at the is it. Mecca make deals like the a Godzilla robot that I thought. He was made out of like adore or something. Like a now he's literally Godzilla but robot almost like Like like what is at Pacific. Ram Robot So it's Mecca Godzilla so it seems like Godzilla King Kong going to do. They're kind of do a little small battle like Superman Man Batman did and then all of a sudden Bam here comes this other enemy up. Now we're going to team up and take this thing out. I have a feeling that's what's happening. it's going to happen. You got you got because you don't want to upset either one of the fan bases because they're so there's like a huge fan base. Plus they're supposed to be both technically good guys they are. So how do you make one win. And the other one Lou. Yeah Speaking go back tracking a little bit scanning of the ending of Godzilla Zillah little hint towards a second right. What about the ending of this movie? Oh my God that was like ah serious bad boys what is it bad boys retirement. I mean what are you doing bad boys are they hinting. A sequel sequel bad boys the next generation. Yeah I mean. What are we doing as soon as that happened? I was like at the. It's like okay. What happened to so a couple of credits and all of a sudden Bam like okay? Here's a to get some time taken off. Yeah that's all you're going to say and then it's just like what. What so a cliffhanger? Yeah I like okay. They're gonNA go for fourth. Maybe maybe I don't know my Gosh it's just like leaves. You like how the Harry potters and Hunger Games. Things leaves you. You're just like what I know and now it's like there's gotta be another one are more it'll be even fatter. Yeah so yeah I know I completely forgot I remember it. So we talked about the ending credits Godzilla but anyways yeah awesome. Stay tuned for that right I don't think that we have anything else. Coming Out Next week yet. Not as right now we don't. Yeah I don't think anything else was releasing no So we'll probably have to figure we're going to kind of decide side. What the next episode will be or We'll do some type of movie news. Not Real sure what we're into yet 'cause I have we. I had literally don't have anything that was on the books yet. There isn't anything unless y'all get underwater something that already came out. Yeah and I mean the only other thing we can do is another like list of movies. I mean I don't know if he buys interested in the worst movies of two thousand nineteen or or what but we'll we'll we'll figure it out Right now we just don't have anything on the books. I am looking for though to doing birds of prey. Your next month should be interesting and I will say this. I really think we're we also should do the sonic because after they redid the whole design. I think we should talk about it because I know that's GonNa be a big topic. I'm interested in seeing it. Yeah I mean I'm a big Jim Carrey fan so I'm I'm curious to see how he is playing. What Dr Robotic? Whatever his name yeah so kind of I kind of do WanNa see it and I think that'd be cool review to do sure Well we don't have really well. We got a box of some giveaways for a movie that we're not even getting Like a boss We they gave us. beanies has a detachable puff thing on its detect detachable. I've never seen a detachable. Yeah pull that sucker out it snaps on and off. Wow Lion Ladies and gentlemen now that is weird. No Joe The ball poofy ball. That goes on some uh-huh beanies sometimes. Yeah you don't have to have the poofy on and off. Yeah I guess if he wanted off it looks more like a guy beanie unless you really wanNA walk is like furry real warm though. Yeah this is definitely a girls being. Yeah it's a good and well. They also gave us girl shirts so we have a boss come up to probably be putting them on twitter so we'll probably do something to give them way. 'cause I don't know why we got him. I just got handed. The box You WanNa do. These for giveaways are taught differently. Haddish whatever yeah like. I don't really I. I'm sorry I think she's along knowing. Yeah Very I've never liked her in a movie. I don't think yeah but you know to each their own Tom. Whatever Well that is. That's going to do it for today's episode At boys for Life Gob for boys in retirement. Yeah whatever that'll be in another seventeen years we'll be seven years in the making but So we'll be back next week will not sure what we'll do but we'll be posting it on our social media and everything for what next the next episode will be so until then thank you for joining us on the plaza podcast. We'll see you soon

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Episode 603: A Bad Boy of Faith or a Bad Boy of Works

Overthinking It Podcast

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Episode 603: A Bad Boy of Faith or a Bad Boy of Works

"For January Twentieth Twenty Twenty. It's the overthinking podcast episode. Six hundred three a bad boy of faith or a bad boy of works Welcome to over overthinking it where we subject the popular culture to level of scrutiny. It probably doesn't deserve the over thinkers are like a A Department who protects acts and serves the the popular culture and our listeners but sometimes there are renegades. Sometimes there are you know let's say a unruly chaps now. Let's say disobedient guys. Gosh I don't know well I don't know how to put it all I know is that I- Matthew rather and one and my friend Pete Fenzl is another. Hey pea pod together we might together we were looking for. We cast together over thinkers for life. This is Pete Fenzl Enzo and we are talking about the film bad boys for life or as it would be more accurately titled Bad Boys. Three life right Yeah exactly three bad. Three boys which is interesting because there are three bad boys in the film? So spoiler alert for bad boys for life or bad boys three like now no matter how many of and for the whole bad bad averse arse the whole boys averse beginning with beginning with nineteen ninety. Five's bad boys and continuing to You know twenty twenty twenty s bad boys three life. We're we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA discuss it. We're GONNA and will Smith Martin Lawrence. What what you going to do what you're GonNa do when the oath over thinkers come for you pete? I need to start this with the question. Okay tell me everything in you. Know about the Nissan Quest Auto Quest. First of all this weekend on Thursday of this weekend I went to the New England. International auto show always enjoyed going to. What's up oh calling an audible car? Cast Twenty twenty five. I was it. You didn't even know that it was there. It was good. I think we've hit a certain kind of point in auto auto development where there aren't a lot of things that are coming out. That are all that exciting right now from a seat of the car show in sitting in perspective because everybody's working on the touch screens and the autonomous technologies allergies and so I didn't see too many designs. It really jumped out at me but I will say for for this for the sake of this discussion. The Nissan Quest was not at the car show. Joe Nissan did not even bother bringing a quest to the car. Show and I sat in a Hon- honestly I sat in a course specific. I'm pretty sure then. Pacific I hear good things about the Chrysler Pacifica perhaps from you is where you hear the good things. How was? Here's the funny thing is that Nissan brought an end V.. Two hundred but it did not bring a quest. Oh my goodness do they. Even make the quest. Do they said this is the funny thing. Everyone's like I'm really gearing up for something hilarious. Yeah this is the Stephen I mean I got to think that they must still make it. No they didn't they stopped making it. This was part of what boggled my mind. A little bit right. which was that? The only not only did did Martin Lawrence character in bad boys. Three life Drive a minivan but he drove a mini van. That was not a product placement. Because it's when you you can't even buy anymore it would be like you would be Chrysler. PACIFICA and there would be like you you know. I don't know thing where he has to clean it using the built in vacuum cleaner for dog. Hair and cheerios. Something fast and furious seven right. Of course there are ten country but sorry. Tell me tell me more about the auto show. Oh I mean I have to tell you that much about it. Just is that the The Nissan quest was not there and it was generally believed to be an also ran van. A not even originally originally designed by Nissan it was actually a mercury villager which is another kind of mini van that nobody thinks of when they think of events. I think that if the auto show really showed showed anything it was just that crossovers have taken over all cars and pretty much. Every car is a crossover now and Which is fine you know? They're all the same in that respect. It's sort of like a hire. Your car is a car. It's not like the cars are all going away and we did get to see they did Acura brought the sx which is always nice because it doesn't bring the NSF. It's always a little bit sad and Cadillac. decided to show up this year after being there last year which is also nice because the cadillacs comfy to sit in and sometimes they're ostentatious ostentatious this time not a lot of luxury injury. Cars whole bunch affords the new Imachi or the electric Nissan was they actually Mustang. was there but all that aside ride the main point of this is that bad boys three life which we it's funny that we call it that right because too fast. Too furious is a bad boys. rip-off right lane batboys as the sort of two. I guess they're all Miami Vice Rip offs is the idea right like ripoffs. Let me rephrase the Miami Buddy cop adventure is Miami Vice Right. That is the classic Miami. All they're all Achilles Petropolis Iliad ripoffs. Aren't they. I just start like peers. Fighting at the state of Achilles Achilles doesn't go out on the field until Patroclos is killed but talking plane. But that's you you know Martin Lawrence doesn't go out on the field until will smith is killed in a way you know and at this point you've figured out the secret interpreting bad boys three light which is that it is classical literature. I just have to tell you. Today I saw in the wild I saw a Maserati Levante on the four or five on interstate. Four or five. I thought wow that's a Maserati is so threatened and by the Porsche Cayenne that they decided they need to make a crossover. Suv as well. And I do. You like driving crossovers Pete. I'm not I'm not kidding. Thing about making a car costs twenty twenty as I'm kidding about being not kidding about making a carcass twenty twenty I just I just don't like crossovers. I don't like driving them. I don't like the visibility visibility generally. I don't like the handling it's you know. They seem like the worst of all worlds to me. I like driving on dirt roads. I like carrying around lots to stop. I drive a Subaru That we take up into Vermont and things like that so I mean I enjoy driving. I would say that I enjoyed driving more. SUV type things Although I have of course if you really want to drive a great car right you're not going to get across over. The car was driven. Probably the GT three right at my bachelor party on the racetrack in New Orleans which was wonderful Porsche again. Heavily featured in in in this movie as well a classic. Look at the kind of design that you look at it. You instantly know what it is even if it's been many years since you've been around one even if you've never actually been in one at all I I had to look up. It's it's a twenty twenty Porsche. Nine eleven career for us and and it it takes the place of from from bad boys. Two two boys. It takes the place of the Ferrari. Five fifty Maranello which it was. I think Michael Bay's car. Original original teaches lent to the production but he drives a portion. He drives a portion. The new thing and Martin Lawrence opens the tore into a into fire hydrant. Who hasn't been there was a lovely shot? Because it's the first moment where you really feel like they're embracing the aesthetic of the previous movies where you get that low angle shot and the music starting to kick in and will smith gets out of the car in slow motion in and you're like okay. This is a bad boys movie. Now and then Martin Lawrence stands up and he hits the target the fire hydrant. And you're like Oh. This is a bad boys movie. This is great as such as as as such as it were it. Definitely yeah it had. It had a different definitely different. TONAL It definitely had a different kind of tonal thing than the than the fast diverse than the very self serious fast verse which was not always quite so self serious but became so and this this was not I mean there. There were a couple. There were a couple of moments where the director whose name I forget but it is going to come up on. IMDB just in just a second. Wow well you might forget. Forget because it doesn't have one director it has to director. Oh really yeah they are ideal are be an bill. Alpha La got directors and you may know them from in such films as Beverly Hills Cop four t be a movie called snowfall. Paul made in two thousand seven. No one's a TV series. Say generally do I guess they do TV series. They do yeah they do a lot of TV directing. I don't know why they're directing. This movie directed a wiz Khalifa Music Video. I mean a lot of the film has the feel of music video when I think music videos are a good good Kind of proving ground for action cinema especially because of the you know the focus on sensation and then kind of the consensus but yes so but they they are aping. Michael Bay style right they have and there are a couple of their job op. They are assigned to make a rip Michael Bay Movie Rights Case and she would pretty well reasonably well. It's endorsed by by Mister Bay right. The appears in the movie. Exactly right the wedding. They would just delightful introducing me. Yeah so like the the. If you watch the every every frame of painting about Michael Bay the what is episode of that Wonderful Video Essay Series on youtube like one of the things that is called out is the the character stands up in slow motion low angle shot where the camera kind of swings around him and and it's always him so the day they do that and that that's what was happening in that in that shot that Pete it is describing sort of early on where there's kind of pathetic drop from the roic to the to the slapstick. Right in that first shot and the interesting thing I thought about that was that the car was a character in that shot as well it it like you know. Sort of caressed lovingly the badge the Porsche Badge judge on the front of the car before it got to Martin Lawrence on the passenger side opening the opening the passenger door into the into the fire hydrant. And there are one or two other of those There one or two other of those of those shots You know I don't know I I would say that like it actually is pretty tame compared to Michael Bay himself. That like you know Michael Kobe. Another thing from that every frame of painting video essay is that like in Michael Bay movies and think of some of the chaos in pro harbor or transformers right like there there. There's a foreground middle ground and background planes and there's action going on in all three very often. You know action kind of skew skew to the other action or debris blowing or a lamp post or something and the camera is moving in so it gives the sense of depth And it gives a sense of gives a sense of kind of like excitement and and motion One of the points of every frame of painting essay. This video essay on on is that There's really no editorial point it's just sensation. It's just that these things look cool there it's no like you know the the The low angle shot with the camera swinging around the character. The hero standing up in slow motion can be because he's going to go defeat the villain or because he's he's going to go get a five dollars foot long at subway right. There's no Really differentiation at editorially between these things and and you know this film for what it's worth actually manages ages. I think to tighten up and disciplined the use of some of these things and actually the you know staging the entire finale in a single like hotel in a single structure is a move kind of towards towards discipline It's it's an interesting storyteller problem like. How do you use the architecture? I kind of the geometry and architecture of the hotel and the answer is kind of like a video game. You sort of clear it level by level right and it's it's about going up and coming down again it's sort of interesting but I'm I'm I'm I'm getting ahead of our. I'm getting ahead of Myself Pete. It is bad boys for life the best movie about aging that has been released in two thousand twenty. That's a really tall order actually pretty good. It's actually it's actually pretty good But of course twenty twenty three weeks old so I'm trying to see if there's there's any other aging that already come out right Dr doolittle. A there was a the garage remake the mercenary. I don't even know generate ninth January ten like a boss. I don't know that might be up there but leaks rights starring Peter Dink Lynch. I don't know if that is about three delusional men who think they're Jesus Fair enough about bad boys three. Yeah yes. It's your way way. Bad boys three is about three delusional. Men who think that they're Jesus so yeah what. What were your initial impressions of of bad boys three life and and you know what I and and are we what what what does it mean to be bad and a boy and a bad boy in this unit set is a more loaded question than one might expect because the biggest surprise that bad boys for life has waiting for? The viewer is that it seriously addresses the moral questions surrounding it subject. Better in fact I will say this that is it is not only the best movie about aging to be released in two thousand twenty. It is perhaps the best movie about Christianity that I have seen maybe a couple of years. At least like this is a this is a very religiously. Concerned movie for an action will be just for a movie in general these days. And it's again. This is not a super serious movie and it is. It is definitely more kind of grounded in. It's kind of calm con consideration of ethical moral questions not just ethical in the sense of you know. Well what if we assume that the world puts upon us an obligation Gatien do the right thing. Then what is the right thing but ethical in the sense of what it is. What is it to do the good thing? In order to live the good life right and even a larger sense of what the very purpose of ethics is comes into play pretty directly in the movie bad boys for life which you would not expect right this this is a move. He where they actually have a wonderful little exchange. Right where Martin Lawrence says are actually use their use their names. Because I don't WanNa give I don't WanNa get into the whole question of whether Martin Lawrence is really kind of scuzzy dude. Like not somebody that you really wanna be praising and just put a pin in that cause tissue Campbell's Apple's put a bit of a penitent too and here. They reconcile the bit recently. And I don't want to go down that road that I don't WanNa make Hay as appraised piece for Art Lawrence even though it's very very funny movie but any rate so marcus right. Who is the end of the two bad boys? If you're not familiar. With the bad boys franchise perhaps. This is a brief primer. Yeah I can give you This is a movie that you don't want to have spoiled for you because it has one twist that is really good but if you're not going to see it for free listening and if you have not seen any of the other ones they will as some of my friends told me when I asked them well. My wife has asked me a key one and two before you see bad boys three. The answer is it won't necessarily affect your enjoyment of bad boys three but it will it affect your judgment of life so you see them but but the bad boys right are a bit of a flip on on the conventional buddy cop duo because usually anybody cop duo you have the kind of Wacky cop and the the straight man cop and the wacky cop is the cop does all the crazy things right and the straight man cop is the cop who does the sort of more reasonable sort of police work right so you know you have got Danny Glover the weapon. He's investigating the South African Embassy. Yeah he goes undercover and he's really pursuing a lead and then you have Mel Gibson in lethal weapon. WHO's like hanging off the side of a truck like doing flips and screaming right in bad boys? It's a little flipped in that. You have Marcus and Mike and Mike is the one that does crazy things but mike is also the straight man so so. It's a movie where he is the sort of action hero cop. And then there's Marcus who's his buddy. Who is both the sort of comic foil? But also his skills are more apple Bagel gle Applicable to standard police work right following leads. Talking to witnesses remembering sources things like that. He's a more pedestrian sort of cop but he's also the funny one so it's sort of built in imperative of high action cop stories because they've they've flipped the script on and made the supercop the normal cop and the you sort of guy wearing the slouch varsity jacket. The like the joke cop right as opposed to the other way round so in this is the movie bad boys for life. The main question questioning bad boys for life is is that that Marcus. These were slouch. E Cop Wants to retire right and their partners right and then we'll and Mike Mike who's will Smith who is the supercup doesn't want to retire because he has basically nothing else that else in his life and then will smith gets shot and nearly dies and Marcus literally has a come to Jesus moment where he goes to it and it goes to a chapel in the hospital and he prays and he promises God that if if Mike Will Smith is spared he will do no more islands in the world which is a daring daring challenge to put a potty main character actor in a bad boys movie right like I will do more violence and and the rest of the movie is an interrogation of this promise and also what it means to kind of make this kind of promise. There's is a lovely conversation where Marcus says to Mike Right. You've spent so much time being a bad boy. It might be time to consider being a good man and will Smith says. Oh yeah right good man good man what they gonNa do and it's like well you have to sing it like you believe it and I thought that was really powerful brand new this idea that like so to loop it even farther back back the whole song that this is based on right which is inner circle right. There's no is it. Good is is it in her circle. Maybe might be confusing them with. Where is it? Let me say. It's a reggae group. I think it is inner circle. Yes the song is not necessarily what you think it's about right. The song long is about men young men who misbehave and how they will eventually face the consequences of their actions and it goes on to insult all damn for projecting their emotional distress onto all the people around them right. You Chuck It on this one you check it down that one you chuck. It brought his this brother and you took it on your sister. Your junk it on your mother you took it on your father. You took it on them and you took it on me being like all the people in your family and your community are suffering because bad boys. Bad Boys Ah doing are acting out and that they will eventually face the consequences of their actions but the song has this sort of such a funky transgressive beat to it and of course it was played the theme song for the TV. Show cops right where the idea is like the cops are coming in there. I guess the cops are supposed to be bad guys why you know. They're supposed to be the good guys and that's a other conversation right but the point being that the bad boys in the bad boys movie are cops. Who Don't follow the rules are loose cannons? They they vote cars they blow all things up they go crazy high speed chases right they. They get in gigantic bullet. Time gunfights. And it's supposed to be a sort of the bad boys have these sort of fantasy decisiveness and capacity to kind of release their pent up aggression and just sort of the transcend traditional conditional oceans of self control to liberate the audience through their free exercise of their desire for justice. Right it's like we don't follow these rules that keep other people from doing things. It's just the diehard plot is what it is right it's like well. Society is is too strict to end. The bureaucracy doesn't really. The bureaucracy has lost its moral fiber and thus if you want people people to actually pursue justice you need to find people who are willing to go outside the rules and take action when necessary and then you just turn that to eleven and you've got bad boys and so as you you get to Martin Lawrence talking about this with will smith and rather marcus talking to with Mike. It's this question of this whole thing that we've been doing this. Entire time are Darsur fetish ourselves as against the rules it. Maybe it works when you're young because you're as we've talked about so many times in this podcast asked there's an analogous relationship between the teenager and the parent and the rebel and the oppressive society and it gets a metaphor. It's that can ever dean. Yes sure she's a rebel fighting in oppressive government but she's a teenage girl fighting her parents or like an abusive parital frontal standing right and this poor parenting. That's being done to her by the community that she lives in and so in why literature and this sort of literature of rebellion. There's this ongoing kind of psychological connection between being young and kind of being oppressed and being a rebel right teenagers or cool because they're always oppressed is an article article we've talked about in the past the podcast and then in this movie. Marcus is saying. Hey we're not young anymore. We're the older people. I have a grandchild. Now you know my daughter who's sexual maturity has been a running joke through the previous badoit movie like it much to my embarrassment in an inappropriate manner by all of my co workers and you know all of a sudden. She's a mother you know she's marrying this guy making fun of for the previous movies I have a grandchild. I'm feeling a sense of responsibility. Wants Ability. I'm feeling the idea that okay. Maybe I'm not the rebel anymore. Maybe I'm the person that maybe other people rebel against. You're supposed to be in that kind of situation okay. We're the good men now. What are we going to do right? It's so easy when what we do is just follow the break all the rules and go crazy and like other people will reign us in. Captain will come by and save us and this is. It's like okay. Well what if you were the person who is the ultimate moral authority in your inner circle of people inner circle. What would you do? How would you act differently? Would you still go around shooting people. You probably shouldn't be doing that in the first place. And so there's this question. The movie be where where the movie. The movie central twist there was a real monkey wrench into this question. And I think really highlights it. But you'll Martin Lawrence zing. I'm going to give up violence entirely and the central question then comes in a later scene. Where Martin Lawrence FIS himself in the SIDECAR futuristic motorcycle with a fifty caliber machine gun like you do? And and he's saying you need to shoot the fifty caliber machine gun at the I forgot every terrorist biker. Gang people evil people over various sorts it's cartel gangster. It's unclear right because the in that particular moment the relationship between between the main antagonist of the film. And the you know de la De Los Muerto is masked dirt bikers like crossover dirt bikers. Who are a Menacing them at that particular moment relationship is unclear. The main guy escaping is the the henchmen to the to the main antagonists who we'd have a surprising realization about later but the The main antagonists not the not the henchman But the the The guys around are just you know are just sort of red shirts kind of our bad boy red shirts. Yeah and so and of course. There's a rule in this movie which is an order to fire a gun while on a dirt bike. You have to do a Whealy Papa. Either Front or back whealy in order to fire on a dirt Mike. I have no idea if that's actually like the reality. A firing dirt bike. If you fire do us the honor dirt bike sound off in the comments of the podcast now but but he says tonight. Why can't fire this gun because I made a promise while you were coding? That if God brought you back then I would do no more violence and then Mike says to him you know God put that in front of you. He has made you his instruments right like like and he says it's like it's like David and Goliath although I think the more apt biblical connection which they wouldn't make would be Samson and the Jawbone of the ass when invites the Philistines right this idea that there's this biblical notion that when you are in an hour of need you know God will make his instrument and provide you with a weapon that you can use. There's very old testament stuff. And and so Martin Lawrence is you know our marcus. As it were is not hard to convince and then promptly it began and he's sort of talks himself through it and decides to go backward from his sort of New Testament idea to his old testament idea and start using the machine gun on people which is sort of necessary for the movie to progress but kind of unfortunate that doesn't entirely check check. It doesn't entirely like they don't pay that choice maybe as much gravitas later in the movie the as they do in that moment. I think it might be a bit distraction where they do it but they. That's that's what this movie is about movie. This is a movie where there is A. We're DJ. College is personally in it. Not Quite acting well being handcuffed and beaten right but all been tortured orchard by Law Enforcement Right. Dj College while pretending to act is being tortured by law enforcement but it is also movie in which a main character or supporting character gives gives a monologue about like a Buddhist spin on stoicism and like the like to consider the sort of your degree Or lack of self control with regards to your emotions in your life. So there's a lot going on this much I would say more going on than in the previous bad boys movies in this sort of respect and it does slow it down. I didn't say that they're trying to do an imitation of Michael Bay. I think you're right in saying they're really not. It's a bit slower and more dialogue driven. Then I would generally expect from Michael Bay movie and a lot. Less kind of kinetic and cosmological in terms of like the orientation of all the objects moving in space or astronomical. Suppose that that Michael Bay movie would be expected to to be the ones as a pretty fierce final macro action sequence in an abandoned Mexican Monastery Stereo Hotel. I don't even know. There's a lot of details in this movie. They get a little fuzzy by it was called Hidalgo. And all you have to do is say dog. Oh one time and you're onboard. I don't know I've got for a while now. L. Matt about the moral implications of discussions of this movie. What were your what were your reactions to the bad boys? I guess I would say the answer to your question. Like what is a bad boy right. A bad boy in this context is either a transgressive young man who does not recognize that these the implications of his actions affect others and and as such will is ultimately going to be facing consequences for his actions from the tribe at large which is sort of a threat or a bad boy. Roy is a young principal. moral actor who is willing because of a psychological relationship with their elders that that that is driving toward self individuation and kind of separation to break the rules of the organization. The group government the community in order to pursue the abstract distract ethical notion of good or evil right. And it's it's the chaotic good as opposed to the lawful. Good these are the two ideas of what bad boys are but in this movie injuries this is the third idea which is the idea of the good man which is okay You know take some responsibility for the fact that you're making these choices to active as manner and And consider whether whether it's good for you or good for the people around you and where it's taking you in terms of the ultimate outcome of of Outcome but the ultimate experience of your life and the lives of others. So what did we responsible. How's your existential? Ism Me Okay. I'm like a cocktail party. Essentially so you may need to jump in and correct me but my understanding is that one of the one of the kind of ethical insights one of the kind of the ethical things that search said about About making ethical decisions in your life is that human beings are always in situation right. It's not so that the idea kind of abstract moral laws that guide our lives It's it's tricky to evaluate those Because you know life. Isn't this sort of monolithic thing. You're always you're always in situation and the kind of your your conception of the good you know of good action might might change which you know. Given the circumstances given the circumstances around you is that a fair gloss or have I absolutely butchered at I think probably I mean I definitely lead a little bit were towards the sort of Kirkuk guard. Fear troubling kind of approach. But yeah the idea that I think maybe situation So I think what you're saying that that human beings existed in situation and you're describing situation as context yup right I would add add further. That situation depends on freedom in an essential respect right but it is the same thing right but it but it's the idea that this that the That your context has to exist through these sort of afraid of freedom How would I articulated in particularly like a freedom that the people involved in the situation whether it's you or somebody else has some sort of freedom to determine in particular outcome or to proceed in a particular way and that's what makes the situation situation so I would say it may be a bulletin necessary and sufficient condition? They're on both ends right. Yeah as opposed to the situation WHO has made who has made the way that he was by his rippling washboard APPS and his dedicated dedicated pursuit pursued of laundry visitors? Happy but SIS itself must consider his Jim Bohannon his laundry so I guess that what it does is kind of a complicated the account of the good life because it makes it a moving target. I mean we like functionally you know And it makes the kind of the sense of like what what what kind of right action in in any You know at any particular moment What that is it makes it a moving target and so it it you know is is sort of tougher to To kind of make good decisions make ethical decisions and I think that like is that you know. Look as as Martin Lawrence a good Whitman. When we're or sorry? Let me let me go in the reverse order is will smith a good man when he refuses when he he more or less throws down his gun and he won't lifted he what raises hands against his son at the at the end of the movie and is Martin Lawrence good man when he picks up the machine gun. You know Right like hey. Are we supposed to beat Dr Sorts of shares to do we beat our plowshares into sorts. The answer's Yes right and that like that. You're you're the sort of the Characteristics I think the characteristics of of a good manner to kind of consider you know a balance that's right between one's personal commitments and the You know which may call expediency or sort of necessity the in a You know at a particular at a particular moment will Smith is all expediency and kind of needs to come to a sense. Allegation needs to come to embrace a sense of obligation which which he does when he in a kind of left up way but like whatever embraces his role as a father other or braces some kind of duty as a father you know To like not not kill his son in an action scene being in a Mexican hotel right. I mean that's I would call that Edessa sery- but not sufficient condition the killing your son abandoned hotel Mexico whether or not it's called Hildalgo the but the but but Martin Lawrence right like kind of becomes a little too absolutist he you know he becomes a man of the book you know right like like is is Christianity a religion of the word religion of the book. And that's like it isn't it. It is an interesting question and the answer the answer. I think that that bad boys three life comes to Is Is Trinidadian. -Tarian which is wonderful giving Martin Lawrence Jack's exactly and that that no is is both is Trinitaria in in the sense that the that the trinity is at the Council of our I forget which Apostolic Council was was that Calcitonin or was it nicer or that when the trinity was theorized they more or less US threw up their hands and said it's a mystery. Don't don't try to understand it. Kind of like Bruce Willis and looper saying time travel in this film. Look listen. Don't don't think too much about it. The three and one thing is is that let's not. Let's just leave it at that. And you know get get on the the idea of concept stand concept Stan Shih -ality and the dual nature of being a of of being being a goodness of the word or or a goodness of faith or a goodness of works. I guess is is what I mean by the bad boy of faith fates or a bad boy at work right exactly and that's or a good man of faith or good good man of of of works right like will smith has to become a good man of faith and Martin Lawrence has to become a good man of of works. They're on they're on. You know related but distinct distinct pattern. Lots and in that sense like actually does is an interesting ethical and and Christian movie that deserves Further further study by committed monastics and soon added another dimension. Because there is also a dimension of what you're discussing and this whole dynamic make right in in which has a black history dimension in this movie right because at one point Martin Lucas because because what what's the one thing that what's Martin Lawrence is kind of prop right mart. Laura through this entire movie or or Marcus as it were has a prey transformative prop that. It's it's eight Chekhov's gun in this movie that but ironically enough in a movie with many guns check on gun is not in fact a gun that he is constantly being told throughout the movie. He needs to utilize realized. Right right. Is it a surgery a because he's getting older right really beautiful thing with the glasses is if you step back and take a look especially in the context of everything. We've already talked about. Because when Marcus and Mike Goto puts his name Picante Jackson or whatever they go to terra gate a criminal criminal accountant tint in accounted for criminals. Who goes by some sort of absurd name? His first name is content and he ends up. Being this big fat kind of drug addled white guy tweaker like blowing rails a coke off his accounting desk and yeah and and the punching a punching bag in his office or whatever and so they go into this room and and Marcus is saying to Mike. Hey we're going to talk to this guy right we're not going to agitate him. We just need to ask him some questions right or is it. Is it. Marcus Marcus. It's a Mike or mic says. It's Marcus Burqas. Marcus says it to Mike that and it's not even that we're gonNA like it's not even. Hey we're GONNA play this one by the book those aren't the stakes. The stakes are almost like look this. This will get exhausting. If we do your way. And like we're we're going to just go take the easy route. We're you know to Roosevelt's the yellow yellow wood and I took the one that led to less back pain right. And that's that has made all the difference. So Marcus approaches the discussion with the violent white white man by offering him kind of conciliatory discussion. Right we're not going to leave. We're gonNA leave you alone. We're not here to bother you. We just want to find the information about the guy who's killing all of the people who are associated with this old crime from like twenty five years ago that's the subject of the movie and the he's re he's repaid for his non-violent inviolate approach by being punched in the face right like pretty hard. I think he's beaten beaten right. The White Guy Beats Him and then Mike steps up and says well you know. No you've dealt with Martin Luther King now it's time to deal with Malcolm X.. And I'm going to do what you do. This by any means necessary right and he steps up in the beats the beats the guy gets the information threatens him with the gun and everything and so. There's this juxtaposition here between Martin Luther King Malcolm X. of course to religious leaders right so the movies I said it would be as Christian is also fairly ecumenical in terms of using different symbolism from different religions but it has the sort of core idea You know 'cause Marcus is such a Gospel Fan and everything was driving. His Nissan Quest. Listen to Gospel radio. But there's this idea of the two holy men right the holy the nonviolent holy man and then the righteously Asli angry violent holy men and when Marcus is constantly being told to put on his glasses at the end of the movie in the final firefight or fight in the hotel Dodo he puts on his glasses. And they're like Brown Line Malcolm X.. Classes yeah like not like one hundred percent. I don't think but like there're Malcolm X.. Classes and so when Martin Lawrence is finally decided that he's going to kind of Step away from his pledge of nonviolence hit. He's going to stop being the kind of I have a dream nonviolence man and of course these are oversimplifications of very complex. Men who at different times in their life espouse different tactics tactics and believed in different things. And certainly both very passionate about what they did but he stops being the kind of man who insists on violence and becomes the man who insists on any means necessary. While at the same time you know you have Mike who is meeting. And of course the big spoiler alert in this movie is that the Mexican assassin who's been sent by his mother to kill. Everybody who is in the movie right is is actually will Smith's child from a previous affair. This movie is very notable from having a lot of back story in it that is not in any of the previous movies I did that did occur to me and bothered me just a a little bit right like like you're in the third movie you can't pull some character out of bad boys one is they're not is Taylor Leoni. Did she die is she that busy. I don't know But it's just like But yeah it's like there's this whole back story where we'll Smith went to Mexico undercover and had this toward love affair with this woman and the the product of about love affair is the son who was raised in his mother was sent to prison and his father was killed or Z.. Sent to prison to and and he's been raised in this sort of dislocation and neglect and he's sort of reaching out for any sort of sort of yeah exactly and also assertive sort of abused by his mother in the sense that he has been kind of You know condition to become a specialist in violence. For you. Know for the instrumentality Talapity of taking revenge on his mother's You know his his mother's enemies you know becomes site yes. Psychologically abused and manipulated by his mother. Who has this movie does does dally in some rather uncomfortable positioning of the chess pieces of identity? Insensitive like the although there is credit. There's like there's a female duality in this movie. That is much more nuanced than we usually get. Instead we get like you know special special ops tactics club woman and and Santa Maria which as the sort of two models of Feminine Ideal Machine guns or yeah I guess what like statues of with skulls on them but yeah but this kid has no other leadership. He's the bad boy and the bad boys song who is acting out because he has no structure his life that isn't that structure but it's a it's a perverse and abusive structure that kind of continues the cycle of violence. And this should end the twist. Twist is that will Smith is the father. who wasn't there right that he's actually the kids biological father now? Granted given the scenario you might expense kind of adopted situate- situation right like the fact that he was raised in the household of this Mexican drug lord is also problem is not all will Smith's fault but at the same but the big the question here is like Oh you have been out here in the world pursuing justice and you yourself without knowing it have committed vast injustice by abandoning this kid kid and so the kid has come back and it's just wreaking havoc on everybody kills. Would you say you know that that bad boy is a family business snus. You know that that. He's abandoned his a Joe. Yeah I WANNA see puff daddy tobacco back at Mike lowry. This spy sudden crazy psychopathic Mexican hitman who makes who makes a completely psychologically unconvincing. You know third ACTA change of hearts to you. Know Rescue say Martin Lawrence. This is the second best movie about a surprise Biracial father son relationship Since the detective Pika Chew also. We'll be about biracial parenting and this is also GonNa be about biracial period dig. Although in this sense it's not really about biracial parodying. It's about the the Good Samaritan right and it's about this. This man is my neighbor right. This is my misses my son. This is my brother right like I think that in the sense that will Smith recognizes that. This is his child. What he's recognizing his responsibility to other people? I don't think morally. I read this story about being a father in a specific accents except it's more than a general metaphorical sense. How do you set examples? How do you live a good life? And so what will Smith does is. He turns the other cheek. He literally like confronts. Sam Refuses to hurt him. Lets him take his anger out on him. Likes you take it out on me right like I'm the one to blame. I take responsibility for for my actions. And then that's what kind of and then and so he becomes the Martin Luther King right nonviolence right. I will stand in front of you in front of the fire. Take whatever you can throw at me and that's how I will show you my strength that I can't be beaten because you can lock me up. You can sit dogs on me. You could throw water at me so you can do all sorts of terrible things. But but I'm not going to give up and I am sort of the power of righteousness right and then Martin Lawrence shows up in the brown line glasses. Isabel Comex exit like shoots that shoots people it is like by any means necessary right and then there's the conflict between the two women because it's it's it's it's the cap is a new capital who kills the Santa Maria which right or is it Martin Lawrence. Who Kills Pushes? The woman is a fire because she gets she gets shot. I think falls into the fire. It's the other woman who shoots symbolically. Well it is I mean there there are a couple of there are a couple of other women and and then in one one man with a non binary gender presentation but the the the. Yeah I think at the end of it has to be Who An and it has to be that? Because she's the one who gives the movie it's it's kind of nuclear family kind of obligatory Katori heterosexual closure you know at the end. Where Will Smith is holding? Martin Lawrence is Grandson and it's like oh you look you look good with the baby. And then the police captured under the one. Who's WHO's promoted to captain? You know look the way. My wife wife just texted me to tell me it's Rita Rita is the one who he is. Because you're in the other room re has the name of the of the supercop. I'm Wilson's Paramore as it were. That's do well. Yeah I mean that's that's funny that the kids are interesting and she's he's the kind of the she's the head of the so she displaces the bad witch and it is it definitely. I saw it in a pretty full full full theater and there was a lot of reacting to the to the film like definitely new its audience and it was a nothing quite scored as nothing scored quite as big as Don't you know you shouldn't F. O.. which without a condom at that was that was the line that just really you know? Got A huge response. In my in my thing like the you know the the Brouhaha the Sexist caricature of You know a powerful and mysterious You know Mexican sort sort of female Shaman. Healer is or or maybe they're they're which I don't mean to be culturally insensitive. Maybe maybe it's just Sta. Maybe they're just which is hard to draw enough of the line between the events of this movie and real life to decide who exactly ought to be offended by. I'm sure probably includes tissue gamble but it's like I'm sure there are a lot of people offended by this movie but there's a lot of like everything everything is going on is pretty wacky so it's because it's also because also countervail by what they're trying to make positive messages to so it's like oh man it's so a tricky to like. There's a whole negotiation this movie of toxic masculinity it which has sort of Intersectional Racial Component. which is I mean? If you're the kind of person who's like man. How come male action movies always embrace toxic masculinity and they don't have they don't have diverse casts? And you know they don't have women in an interesting roles with flaws and relationships right like and and and also they don't do old fashioned cop movies and action movies anymore like this. This will be felt like someone made a laundry list of all the things that people have been complaining about movie. Yeah you gotta go yes I think the kids the kids the square the squad the like the technology squad is is pretty interesting I- Abercrombie and Fitch or what do they call them high school musical something something it is actually is actually one of the yeah with a with a side shaven a punk Sean for Confu this is a movie again and or a man gives a monologue about Buddhist Buddhist interpretation of stoicism and also where Vanessa hudgens baseball sized between a man's leg legs and fires thirty thirty rounds directly into his crotch. This is a movie. That's all about cake. Game throwing the Allah God here. There's more than one more than what helicopters seen in this movie like. You think you think you know you you get one helicopter but no not if not if you're a bad boy and I think like the you know the the millennial cops you you know are maybe are not how have a more complicated a more nuanced relationship with the With with with the necessity of of bad boy bad boy nece right because to a certain extent their social media provides them with more opportunities for various forms of personal expression. You know and so the the idea of badness as the good bad binary and the boy. The boy girl binary is insufficient to describe their their multi continuous and and multidimensional experience. You know that that that you can't just the idea of of having bad boys is too limiting to do it. And that's when they're like okay. GRANDPA what they're what they're really saying is like I I. I reject the ethical well and the gender dichotomy you are. You know that your franchise title Wishes to wishes to to foist upon us and the answer like the literal answer that will Smith and Martin Lawrence give in the film is. Yeah but the song is school and by the way. Don't sing the song because you don't sing a cool. It's hard to learn the words which is funny because it is accepted. The chorus isn't is at right. It is hard. It's no snows informer but the right right but Yeah as as offensive. You know Friday. Sing alongs go. This one must must star rank rank up there with redemption song. So so okay. Yeah so the kids I want to talk about. The kids They are you know they have different like a wide variety of of gender presentation which is non sort of not really a dichotomies it's more on a spectrum From the captain. WHO's not really wanted the kids but she's the head of the kids so she's you know she like Is Down with them. You know with her short haircut in her. You know sort of being the being the authority figure to the like slightly effeminate club. Kid Guy who gets them gets them into the club and who is really antagonizing. Will Smith You know who which is which is funny. Because he sort of the the main rival for like the the Macho Macho title but is not you know not particularly Aurora you know. Sort of masculine sorta Guy Guy it's it's interesting his ethnicity kind of plays into that a little while so a little bit as well. So it's it's intersectional It's not just one thing to to the to the Vanessa hudgens character. Who is the kind of Batu Sass of them all then to the sort of tall white bouncer looking guy who's back story story is that he's a bouncer And and was like really traumatized and they they play for laughs a little bit but also like but also realistically basically it is. It is played for laughs a little bit. But it's also accurately reported like The consequences you know the potential consequences of sort of being a specialist specialist and violence. And what that does to you. How it kind of warps your sense of of right wrong or sense of self worth your sense of of you know oh yourself as a moral being in a way that that action movies that people rightly complained that action movies never take seriously well? Well you know this one does right lake at the end. He's like listen like I know I did what I had to do. In the Climactic Battle of this movie fighting the final boss but like it took a toll on me and I was wondering if you guys would support me by like coming humming for a group session with my therapist as I work through my ptsd over like over the things they had to do. And actually everyone's answer is probably pretty accurate given how people would actually respond in a situation like this. which is that everyone you know on the surface vocally is very supportive and then they go off and there's no I'm not I'm not I'm not going to therapy with that guy? Because they're to threaten like what it might mean for themselves to actually examine their behavior and you know the effects of of traumatic circumstances on their On their own lives so like the. They're an interesting like they're an interesting case. Study in in generational change like because you think they they they. They are better boys in some ways than than the batboys but they don't really need that identity. You know it's not. It's it's not that they're more evolved. No one's ever more evolved but they have different avenues for for expression Than than the ones available to the bad boys. Two kichler batboys. Yeah because they have because they are. Captain doesn't act in the same way towards them. Adam is the bad boys and other capitals. Were towards them. I think. That's very insightful. Definitely but there is a scene in which she is chewed out by Superiors but we don't. We actually don't see that you know it's really interesting is really interesting and so there are some you know there. There are some like white guys in suits there are some like you know Apollo Eleven. There's some like NASA looking. FBI agent yeah exactly white guys in crew cuts and and dark suits who yell at the WHO Yell at the. I think she's a lieutenant at the time who yellow Rita and you know just as a as an interesting interesting lesson in management because very often we like take lessons from action movies about you know workplace management and different management styles here on the overthinking podcast sheet that s does not roll downhill right. Yeah she's so nice. She delivers to them the bad news but but she doesn't chew them out for it and she doesn't act it out she doesn't act out her displeasure on on her subordinates. In a way In a way that you would expect from the you know get get your ass is in here. Type Police captain character. Who's GonNa you? You know really chew out Mel Gibson and Danny Glover's something which the captain who is who proceeds her in this movie. Joe Pantoliano cares very sympathetic. Hi everybody really likes him but he's totally that you know Kinda give me your badge your gun Polaski or off the case you know kind of kind of movie police. Captain which is the a dynamic in which the bad boys operates which is of course it intersectional dynamic which is at the same time and metaphorical parent child that dynamic and also a racially charged dynamic right right where where black masculinity is attempting to assert itself as a as a moral arbiter and a legitimate source of independent a moral forcing society. Yeah which is which is really. I think if anybody with a master's degree asks you about bad boys that's really what you should say regardless of the movie taught the other thing you should say is that it's all about taking video helicopters. Slow enough that you can see the rotors of. They don't do that MS movie. Which is unfortunate and I wanted to one really good slow motion helicopter shot? And I don't think we've got a good slow motion over the shoulder helicopter shot in this movie. No there there were good and what they did. This was the toning down of the Michael Bay Bay Hem style rather than the four th walker to look at a you know a slow shot right like way over crank. Shot of the rotors going around When the helicopter crashes through the stained glass ceiling into the Rotunda of the Hotel Diago the friction generated by the rotors on the floor slows? Down the rotors enough that you can see. They're motion as Rita Pulls Vanessa Hudgens or the other way around out of the out of the path of the oncoming Reuters which threatened to to slice off a limb or something like Sir decapitate them or or something like that and that that if if if that is in progress Pete I don't know what is I really liked this movie just talking about. This movie is fun. Like the one guy who has to go to group therapy B.. He wants to go. He wants to everybody that there would be to help recover but we described that the reason he needs to go back to therapy is because he performed a flying open-field tackle against the seven hundred poundstone. Biller knocking down a good quarter of the building killing like three to five men in that takes a lot out of you and you really need to processing after that sort of thing right it get. It's like this is a really interesting test case for the idea. India can you. Can you criticize thing. It'd be the thing at the same time I mean. Of course you can't right because they're doing it right. It's more like how you feel about this sort would've Irony really. It's very ironic movie. Because it's a movie about indulging in all of these things that it says Cost associated with them. Though it is it does sort of suggest that you should pay. Hey the costs to them. which is an admirable thing to do relative to the opposite? I also kind of rather that the choice you can choose to pay the because so you can choose to kind of ignore the costs right and that that paying the cost is the is the mature and the ethical thing to do right right although although the thing that you really want to do is drop off the baby at the at the grandma spa day ruining her time that you could go engage in a variety of theatrical nonsense. Let's let's him so great. There's those of you see. The movie at are still watching. Maybe my favorite moment in the whole movie is Tom and I wanna it always should be named checking more of the great performers that are in this movie Like was it Charles. Milton is in and it's was there's only been in most of the bad boy movies up until this point. Who plays the MA to make sure I can figure out exactly who she is? Because it's the same got Martin Lawrence's wife. Yeah yeah she's great and she's in the other bad boys movies as well as I continue to stall and look up who she is at any rate. She's getting being massage right at the SPA. Spa Day and Martin Lawrence treated her and his daughter to a spa day because because they were he broke something broke something in the house. Right right right right exactly and combine mine. IMDB give me the name of this. Yes she's not on the I I'm looking to. She's not on the first page it's changed. Yeah Yeah Theresa. randle Theresa Serandon you may know from such movies as spawn or Or Duck man the TV show is that is that right. I in order to lords is watching the baby right. He's so lords goes to pick up will Smith and the aforementioned Nissan Quest. You'd get back Lincoln. The link can the show knows by the way yes exactly they discontinued and not advertised minivan. That is mentioned by name in this movie unless they're planning to bring it back but Martin Lawrence are Marcus. Picks up Mike and Mike is shocked to find that the baby is in the backseat of the van and and he has to drop the baby off with the grandma. So that GRANDPA and GRANDPA's partner can go chase down a lead regarding these assassinations that are taking taking place. And there's this little scene. Where Will Smith takes this baby? You know carrier this little baby seat and like very slowly opens. The door of the massage assange massage rooms Barham and like snakes the baby into the room and you watch the woman on the table. I realized that her day has been interrupted with the responsibility for this baby. It'd be like oh no and then With a flea right. 'cause 'cause Mike has to do it because Marcus knows that there's no way he would survive right doing the kind of thing And it's just it's just delightful. You'd think the Mu just when the movie is starting to get really doll they have like this which are just really funny just straight up really funny. The scene though in the air the airplane which we've alluded to previously. It's also extremely is quite light. Funny I mean I thought it was. Did you like the scene and a conversation in the airplane. I mean it's no it's no Kevin Hart showing up in Hobson. Shaw no no it's not. It's invitation Asian of it right. Well yeah or a different different sort of thing. I mean it is yeah it is sort of I mean the the there is this kind of cats. It's funny like it's a it's a weird play on the. It's a weird play on the kind of homosexual love triangle. Where where the third party who should be? The woman is actually a fellow passenger on the plane and they have this sort of marital fight right with you know with with a third party is kind of the through they. They engage in a proxy war using this this other person and changing changing seats changing seats a lot. But but Pete I'm afraid we've we've come to the end of our time talking about bad boys three life. That's that's a We we managed. I mean you know I should never worry whether we'll be able to get an hour out of any material at all but we've we've gotten and more than that out of out of this film. Do you have a parting. Thought a closing him and this is sort of in this. You know religious service of of a film I guess if there is one closing him in one thing to take away from it it would be that that they didn't they didn't tack on the extra half an hour at the end of this movie. That got tacked on at the end of bad boys two which I remember number really bemoaning and disliking being frustrated by the invasion of Cuba seen in bad boys two ext describing the things that happened in bad boys. Movies is so fun at this like so the scene. We're well Smith drives a Humvee down down. A Shantytown Hill in an illegal invasion of Cuba in the fourth act of bad boys two bit to be desired. Glad that it was not repeated. That was yeah. Yeah that was nice. It's nice that they didn't. You know I mean I guess they did make an incursion onto foreign soil. I was at least. Cuba is sort of relevant culturally holy to the to the film's kind of Miami Setting. I mean I thought that like Mexico maybe had more to do with you. Know Current US concerns rather than you know. Being sort of belonging specifically to the to the world of the movie which I thought was was a little disappointing disappointing. And the the you know the do stage a military operation without really any kind of authorization in you know in the the Territory of a sovereign power. But it's I guess it's smaller in scope is what we're what we're supposed to think about bad. I'm just thinking it feels like it happens when the movie is getting ready to be over not after the movie is already pretty much finished. That boys to is is as you know a movie that exists sort of profane right like if if I don't know if this is a priestly film right. Like what is the the kind of negative image of a priest. It's kind of like burlesque suggest gesture right in bad boys. Two like the the dead human women body is not sacred in there like an actually is just played for laughs. Where like these corpses with big boobs or like you're sucking You're you're stuck in a body bag with the corpse because money is being smuggled out of the country in corpses but like it's funny because the corpse has big boobs and like when we're in a car chase we're gonNA push the corpse out of the back of the mortuary van and they serve like roll like logs. Like frozen rosen logs on the ground and service like obstacles for the other car so like Drive around to swerve to avoid or not. Avoid and kind of like bump over. Yeah it's the bad boys two is is a very NYLA. Will I will say. Is that the soundtrack of this movie is really interesting and features a song with a reggae tone song. With Daddy Yankee which is a Spanish language inge reimagining of here come the hot steppers with different subject matter so I highly suggest checking it out. It should be on spotify there some interesting. The pit bull is in there with little John Doing a song. So there's sort of a grant I the only thing that's missing is some sort of acknowledgment or revisitation too. Well Smith Song Miami which I think would have been really welcome in this movie. Maybe he saving it for something bigger. Like like the fact that the movie sets up a sequel during the gutsiest move bad boys three setting up. A sequel is a pure balls move. That takes a lot of guts to yeah sorta minivan in the movie that they don't even make any more also in the same moody. Have the confidence to set yourself up for a sequel is just a lot. I'm sorry I gave like two or three different final thoughts even while I was criticizing bad movies too forgiving two or three different final thoughts. What are your final thought? Yeah that's a great. I think Pete you know if you WanNa work off your overthinking. It's sentence there might be some films to over think next week but until then visit us on the web at overthinking dot com or we subject to popular culture to a level of scrutiny. It does super bad boys bad boys but you gotta do what you do for an hour and ten in minutes bad boys what you gotta do. How many times you gonNA reference different movies that the people listening haven't seen so Martin Scorsese's couldn't doing Martin Scorsese wrote an OP? Ed in New York Times Times that said bad boys three is the only qualifies. Santa it is the only true seven twenty twenty.

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11 Trivia Questions on 90s Movie Quotes

Trivia With Budds

12:15 min | 5 months ago

11 Trivia Questions on 90s Movie Quotes

"It's eleven trivia questions on nineties movie quotes. I'll give you the quote from Ninety s movie and you tell me what flick we're talking about. This trivia would buds it be and welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds wherein my captain America's shield shirt here on Youtube? And if you WANNA see this shirt head on over to youtube and check it out if you're listening with your ears. I applaud you as well for subscribing to the show listening every day for sharing episodes with friends. Thank you so much for doing all that to help the show grow. We are up to one hundred. Eighty reviews on itunes. So if you have a second you've been listening for a while. Go leave me a review. I don't think you even have to write a review. I think you can leave just a star rating but if you want to say a few words that would be awesome to and shout out to my friend. Alexander a Trivia host in Maine who just left me a nice review. You can go read that over on the PODCAST APP on your iphone or on. I tunes on Your Computer. Do people use tunes on their computer? Probably not nearly as much anymore as they used to. But it's just easier. Everything's on your phone you know. Today's episode is about Ninety s movie quotes nineties. Movie quotes us. This last week was big hit. So I thought it'd be fun for the show and Holding this book up on Youtube it is called the towel of Bill. Murray and it says Real Life Stories of Joy Enlightenment in party crashing by Gavin Edwards. I got this at the dollar tree. Which is insane every once in a while the dollar tree a big shipment of books that couldn't sell or just overstock the different things from Walmart's Barnes and nobles and things so I grab this one for a buck and I'll probably read it and then give it away as a Trivia Prize but here's the authors note from the beginning Bill. Murray shown up everywhere from the sideline of the nine hundred eighty six and F. C. Championship game wearing an old fashioned leather football helmet to the Mediterranean island of your no associates. You're you're enosis Volunteering is a digger on two thousand six. Nyu archaeological expedition. Because everything seems possible when it comes to build. The man has attracted more than the usual number of fabulous for years now. Bill Myths has been one of the Internet's favorite games in case. You were wondering. Bill isn't running for president and he actually doesn't have the contractual right to steal the master tapes of the Wu. Tang clan album once upon a time in Xiao Lin from Martin skelly but one of the beautiful things about Bill Murray is that there are more than enough staggering through anecdotes to fill a book. This book for example. So that sounds interesting to you. Check this one out. It's the title of Bill Murray Moby on the back says as much as I love Gavin Edwards. Wonderful the Towel Bill Murray. I can't help but feel sad. That Bill Murray has never covered my eyes on a street corner. So that's a fun one that I'm going to check out. Today's episode is also preluded by a random facts. Someone told me my friend Tom. From High Point Brewing in San Dimas California. Just told me this. He said that Oprah appears as a receptionist in the video for Africa by toto so I went back and looked it up only for like a split second and I couldn't find any articles talking about it but if anybody finds a good one send me some info and I'll read some more of it on the podcast had never heard that before that Oprah Winfrey before she was famous before she had a talk show or anything was an extra in toto's Africa video so go check that out. I think she's like a library receptionist because it's like a library setting but if anybody knows about that let me know okay. Today is ninety. S movie quote Dave. And we're jumping into those questions right about now here. We go all right here we go. This is question number. One for ninety s movie quotes. It's a movie from Nineteen ninety-three and here's the quote. Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could. They didn't stop to think if they should number one number one question for two thousand nine hundred eighty eight good morning and in case. I don't see a good afternoon. Good evening and good night number two. What movie is that from from? Nineteen Ninety eight good morning and in case. I don't see a good afternoon. Good evening and good night number. Three nine hundred ninety eight. That rug really tied the room together number three and other one from one thousand nine hundred. That rug really tied the room together questionable. Four nineteen ninety-seven. I'm busy girl. I've got exactly four days to break up a wedding steal. The bride's fell up and I haven't one idea one clue how to do it number. Four nineteen ninety-seven. I'm a busy girl. I've got exactly four days to break up a wedding steal the bride's Fella and I haven't one clue how to do it number five from nineteen ninety five now back up but the gun down and give me a pack of tropical fruit bubbalicious and some skittles. What movie is that from? Nineteen ninety five. Get me some skittles tropical fruit bubbalicious backup down the gun number. Five question for six nineteen ninety-seven so shall we shag now or shall we shag later number six one thousand nine hundred seven. Shall we shag now or later. Number seven nine hundred ninety five. Why don't you tell your Daddy Tacoma's damn hair look like some spiders is having a meeting on his head? Number seven nineteen ninety-five. Why don't you tell Your Daddy? His damn hair looked like some spiders is having a meeting on his head number. Seven number eight nineteen ninety-three. That's what I love about these high school girls. Man I get older. They stay the same age. That's creepy one number eight nineteen ninety-three. That's what I love about these high school girls. Man I get older. They stay the same age number eight question number. Nineteen ninety-five the greatest trick. The devil ever pulled was convincing the world. He didn't exist number nine. One thousand nine hundred five the greatest trick. The devil ever pulled was convincing the world. He didn't exist. What Movie Number Nine Question Number? Ten thousand nine hundred eighty three. This is one time where television really fails to capture the true excitement of a large squirrel predicting the weather number ten thousand ninety three. This is one time where television really fails to capture the true excitement of a large squirrel predicting the weather and for two points which of these movies had the highest. Us box office at the time of their release. Was it men in black dumb and dumber the nutty professor or Tommy Boy? Which one of those movies made the most money out of those four men in black dumb and dumber the nutty professor or Tommy? Boy Those are all your questions for today's nineties. Movie Quote Quiz. We'll be right back just a second to see how you did with the answers. We're back with answers to nineties. Movie quotes. Let's see how you did on this quick quiz number one nineteen ninety-three your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could. They didn't stop to think if they should. That was drastic park number one Jurassic Park Beatty. Wong plays one of those scientists in that movie and he was in a special that I worked on for. Nbc It was like one hundred years of NBC or something. And I had a call all these people to get them to sign release forms and I found Beatty Wong's number on a website and called it and he was on the set of something and he gave me the info and he was like. How did you get this number and I was like gotta go by so that was my be Wong? Interaction number two thousand nine hundred eighty eight good morning and in case. I don't see a good afternoon. Good evening and good night. That was the Truman show number. Two the Truman show number three nine thousand nine hundred. That rug really tied the room together. The Big Lebowski Great Jeff Bridges movie that whole movies just a fun one to watch the big Lebowski number four nine hundred ninety seven a busy girl. I've got exactly four days to break up a wedding steal the bride's Fella and I have at one clue how to do it. My best friends wedding. My best friends wedding Julia Roberts number five thousand nine hundred five now back up. Put Down The gun and give me a pack of tropical fruit bubbalicious and some skittles. That is bad boys. I think it's well Smith who says it. It's definitely will Smith or Martin Lawrence but I think it's will Smith and I read a fun fact that that movie would just had the third one come out. They said that that movie was four. Martin Lawrence like it was a Martin Lawrence Vehicle and they said who should we have is your sidekick. And he's like Oh this guy and the fresh prince's pretty good let's have him have him do it and some might say that Will Smith you got a little bit. Bigger the Martin Lawrence as years went on but interesting. How that started as a Martin Lawrence movie number six nineteen ninety-seven so shall we shag now or shall we shag later? That was Austin powers. The First Austin Powers International Man of mystery number seven thousand nine hundred five. When you tell your data Komo's damn hair looked like some spiders meeting on his head. That was the comedy film Friday Friday number. Seven number eight nineteen ninety-three. That's what I love about these high school girls man. I get older. They stay the same age matthew mcconaughey in dazed and confused a fantastic movie. If you've never seen it go back and watch it number nine thousand nine hundred five. The greatest trick. The devil ever pulled was convincing the world. He didn't exist. That was the usual suspects number nine. The usual suspects that came out a while ago. Twenty five years ago. Holy cow number ten nineteen ninety-three. This is one time where television really fails to capture the true excitement of large squirrel predicting the weather. That's Bill Murray in Groundhog Day. Remember we talked about that book. And the trump the tau of Bill Murray and number eleven for two points which of these movies at the highest box office in the US at the time of their release men in black dumb and Dumber nutty professor. Tommy boy always go with some action because it translates to the international office audiences and usually gives an overall bigger box office number? Although this question was just talking about the US so in the US we like action. To men in black was the answer. Their men in black out of the four made the most money. Five hundred eighty nine million. I think it was those all your answers for the questions today on the Nineties Movie Quiz. I hope he had fun playing along watching on Youtube listening on any podcast and remember. There's eight hundred episodes to check out. So if you like this one go back and check out tons and tons of episodes on your regular podcasting apps should go back at least fifty or one hundred episodes but if you want more you dive into the deep archives and Catalog. You can go to cast box. Download the APP and you can see all the episodes. I think spotify now has all the episode listed as well seven hundred and something of if you WANNA listen. It's time for the question of the day brought to you by. Funky MONKEY DESIGNS CHECK THEM OUT AT FM DESIGNS INC DOT COM for all your printing needs. Their question is in the medical world. What does B. M. I stand for what does be? Am I stand for in the medical world? Tweet me or answer at Ryan. Buds or email Ryan buds gmail.com to be eligible for prize. 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Bad Boys (1995) with Laci Mosley

The Bechdel Cast

1:23:00 hr | 6 months ago

Bad Boys (1995) with Laci Mosley

"Hi Everyone I'm Brooke Burke I'm making King admins and I'm sex and intimacy coach Leila Deville and we have a podcast called intimate knowledge. That's what this show is about Out that sucks. But it's so much more than that. It's about the down near patients ship. Your sex life is about overcoming heartbreak heartbreaking infidelity. It's about understanding intimacy. And what makes you happy. And it's about everything he wanted to know. But you might be too embarrassed to ask. We're giving you you. Intimate knowledge. Listen to intimate knowledge on iheartradio APP on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Find us the Doug cast the questions asked of movies have women and are all the discussions boyfriends and has been. Do they have individualism. The Patriarchy archies. FM start changing with the deck. Adel just bad boys bad boys what you GonNa do what you GonNa do when they come him for. You know back. Wait hang on sorry. Let me let me start again. Bad girls bad girls all female do when we in the killing. I just like I was going to join him but then you were doing such a good job. She's she's got all she's got. Dr Is born. Yeah that was your okay so here we are. We are the bad girl the yeah. Where's the bad girls this time? But we're here to talk about the bad boys because we weren't given a choice right Welcome to the Bechtel. Cast Yes yes. My Name's Jamie Loftus. My Name's Caitlin Toronto. And we are the bad girls. And that's what we're GONNA win. Alison Bechtel inevitably sues us. We'll change the name of the podcast. Bad Girls Carlsson. I'm honestly surprised that this sequel for bad boys for life is actually not a reboot. That's an all female like bad girls. It's the trends in the trend but You know they had to make cops cool again at the politically. Advantageous time to reboot this franchise. What can you do and I mean plus the chemistry between Will Smith and Martin Lawrence? I mean I went Martin Lawrence to get as many checks as humanly possible. I love him so my own man. Martin Lawrence formative formative crush. Oh really yes but wait. What does the PODCAST? I don't forget we're talking about the representation of women in movies and how it it usually doesn't do a very good job. See this movie Yeah because often we just talked about men for two minutes We use the Bechtel test. Best as a jumping off point for discussion the Bechtel test being a media metric invented by Alison. Bechtol sometimes called the Wallace test that requires that two female identifying identifying characters with names talk to each other about something other than a man. Can this movie do it. I was honestly on the edge of my seat Camin. We'll talk about it but there's a conversation to be had I was shocked and so to all those haters out there air who are like dude. Just spend an hour trying to figure out if passes the BECHTOL tests. No we we know going in. Leave usually have the answer. Yeah so oh we are talking about bad boy is ninety five we have a guest you know or you love lawmakers this time three third time yes yes she's a actor comedian host list of scam got his podcast and she's been on the show twice before on our ten things. I hate about you episode and what women want. It's Lacy Moseley. Hey all your. They're so nice. I mean you're a fan favorite so i Michael you guys happy to be here for bad boys for that. So we're we. We were thinking about doing bad boys. Because the franchise as Caitlin was alluding to is being I don't being rebooted if it's the same cast just continue sequel. I've seen a little bit of this group that I can't say everything. I actually asleep turned down audition for this movie flags really but I was working on something else and I got the audition and it was just a character. That just wasn't me. It was like a bad ass with tattoos like knows weapons and I went into like I sell tapings of shooting in Georgia and I did. Did the tape like six times to the point of exhaustion. And then I asked the guy who was taping. I was like if you were me. Would you send the statement and he was like No. You're right piranhas do things like the truth and I won't but it's so it's just like the third installment Oh man of this. So necessarily a reboot. It's just the it's just like they made the third one very very far away from the second I they just took. I mean it's sort sort of like the before sunrise trilogy because they're almost like they're like eight years apart because the first one was eight years after the second one was eight years after the first one. Yeah and then this one is has however like over a decade. After that. You're so they you know they're in and out the bad boys because story to tell every once in a while and this is their most recent story and I guess that one of the credited writers on the new bad boys is Sally Field Son. Oh Big Win for nepotism I always love a good nepotism. Pick dislike nepotism rarely wins. I just like who nepotism should be a category at award show who did daughter of actor in a lead series. It's not realize recognizable as name is it. My I think my a hawks. One of the new nepotism 's the nepotism. That's my job right. Well I just get switched up because like judd. Apples daughter doesn't have the same last name or does she. I don't like a sneak attack. Same last name. I I like Maude Appetite. That was very clear when the nepotism sneak in on on you. I I'm like how dare Jennifer Aniston Daddy was actor smoking on this because we really know that. Well then you got like Nick Cage Age who change Coppola and then change his name. Because he's like I don't want nepotism while he yeah but it's like the Lee new is the vanderbilt. ooh That old money though. There's like a documentary about him and his fancy fancy mommy because his mother Gloria Vanderbilt. He's just like the fanciest the and it's just like. Oh No. I love it if I had that last name. Look don't be trying to be like I earned my stripes bitch please. There's no way in in Hell even if you change your name your area co you can't change your family makes you might as well. Just listen if I win for you would know it. I'm like domain column. Mama they'll maybe call oprah everywhere. I see Winfrey Lacy Winter. Two two pumps forget it. Does your have the Oprah Chai at starbucks and everything my mom's house. Oh my God I'm I'm not even kidding. That's wonderful I love the is so much I didn't have the same as a regular size richer but richer I paid forty cents extra just it just for the name from a woman with large breasts and also Kathleen feels okay so Backed about bad was the movie Lucy. What's your history relationship with this movie? I loved all the bad boys. So you know I mean it was a great time. I'm for black people in cinemas big action films last the Baddies Loved Gabrielle Union. One of them was to. I'm into it. I've been into bad boys so watching it again with this is life or feminism. You know I was very nervous because I was like. Oh I can't don't put a bad taste. Bad boys was really rooting for it Um I mean there were moments where I was pleasantly surprised but mo- but period though I feel like it was doing a lot more within the time period in context and I'm this is the last time I'll jump to the defense I promise but four Michael Bay we've seen much worse. Percents seen much worse from Michael. Yeah but it's also not that's not fair yardstick totally okay Jamie. What's your history story? I saw bad boys two at a drive in movie theater. When I was ten I really liked? It didn't go back to the other veto. This is the first time I've seen. The first is one. I've seen the second one before I don't know like I all my cousins really like bad boys and I knew the song but it was another one of those things where my family is kind of like. That's not a movie for girls. Boys is in the title so so like if if I had I would have had to really make an effort to to see the first one just because if boys was in title I wasn't going to be able to see it really but Yes I'd at the drive in liked it and and for all of this movie's faults Caitlyn. You admitted it in the text to you. It's a fun. It's a fun ride. I was not board of which is saying a lot because the movie that Michael Bay after this the Rock ally and I'm so bored board. Yeah so this movie is is the performances are solid the chemistry. I'm tell chemists they're on fire the whole time so yeah it's good. I had never seen any of these movies until prepping for episode I watched by boys won twice. I watched the first half hour of bad boys. Two didn't finish in time before we had to start recording. And Yeah that's my very short history but like I said it's I never thought I would sort of like a Michael bad movie and yet here I am. This was fun. It's on I didn't realize it was a Michael Bay movie until we were starting to prep for it. I wouldn't like I don't know who he's movie. I thought this was also Michael. Bay's I move. Yeah directorial debut for a feature. Yeah I realized it from the shots. It's definitely agree. We that you need to watch in theaters because you need to for it to make sense because on your television boy oh boy. All those slow circular camera pans angle up to the sky. You know full Corny so many many times I'm really excited for context corner for this because they have a bunch of quotes about the production of this movie. asquith all Michael Bay. It's like you can't imagine But but yeah just like how he like orchestrates. Somehow the cornyist possible shot every single time. We're like suddenly will Smith is shirt list-serve running and then his chest is. There's there's a whole store you're all right well Should I do the recap. Yes time. Okay Mike lowry. That's will Smith and Marcus Burnett. That's Martin Lawrence. They are cops in Miami. It's very yellow. At the beginning they are Michael Bay is set like a Michael Bay thing I can think of them is on fire right He. He does a lot of like post production colouring of his footage age. But they're driving around and then some criminals tried to carjack Mike lowry's car marcus. Fat Shames one of them and then But here's the thing they're bad boys so they stop the criminals or is okay bad boys and they say so they okay early for a minute. I was like wait are are they the bad boys or does the bad boys refer to the bad guys that the cops are trying to capture. I wasn't super clear. They're the bad boys. Boys is for a lot. They're the bad boys. Has It took them twenty five years to admit but they're the bad boys for life so they stopped. The bad guys is not to be confused with the bad boys. The boys are the good guys. Yeah but bad guys are the guys. Yeah so oh then we learn more about Marcus Mike Marcus has a his wife Teresa and boy is she his wife. Here's really know that this woman she is is his wife wife and he wants to have sex with her but she's me she's afraid you don't WanNa have sex. You know how wives eh her name is Theresa. At least we know her name her name is what does she do all day. God only knows simply don't know Three it kids together but Mike lowry on the other hand he's a bachelor womanizer. Playboy who has a lot of sex with the ladies first where he goes to Martin Lawrence's house and then he's like. Hey kids want to hear about this lady. I fucked last night and then the wife is like no And we're supposed to be like. Oh she's such a buzzkill you're like no they're like small children. They weren't teenage little eight year old. Won't we'll hear about this. I got into last night like what uncle might say. I went on a date. You're like no make this stuff right now. Yes okay so then I cut to the bad guys again not to be confused with the boys. The bad guys are breaking into into somewhere and stealing something and now things are very blue. Then Marcus and Mike Aka the bad boys they had to work at the precinct and it turns out that the robbery robbery that we just saw was heroin being stolen out of their evidence locker. At least it's not DVD's. I was something really silly like fast. Surrey's where they're like. DVD's were still time. It's like many millions of dollars worth of heroin in it was from Mike and Marcus is like biggest drug bust. Joey Pantoliano is there police captain. And then this other captain a woman women Alison Sinclair another captain. I loved all forty five seconds of that she he is like breathing down joey pants as neck and she's like as might be an inside job. Figure it out before the press gets involved so then the bad boys start. Start trying to figure out who stole drugs and they go to this boxing gym. Where a woman named Max she like? Mike lowry is like. Hey Max let me know if you you hear anything on the streets and she has a crush on him. So she's like okay and then she's like and let me know if you've been momentum and he's yeah we'll see anyways she dies right Yeah then they go to this rich guy's house in. He was the one who installed the ventilation system that the bad guys snuck through to steal the heroin when they get inside the House House. He's dead so mike and Marcus. Who Reminder are cops they just start rifling through the crime scene getting their fingerprints just everywhere before any sort of crime scene photos or taken you know spoiling the whole thing also lots of banter about the dead guy they keep it funny when there's a body let's keep it lay like Martin Lawrence is like? Oh it's stinky. I don't like almost pukes in this way. Every you know every day we we'd be dead. Why didn't they just have a banter? And I'm like dead here. Okay yeah okay so then Max who we find out is a sex worker and her best friend. Julie that's tailored Tony go into a guy's house because Max things that he might be in on this like drug heist thing and then he brings out a package of the heroin on a platter and we're like Oh yes he is in on it but then suddenly a bunch of bad guys show up and they shoot and kill Max after a long monologue monologue and lots of like making them dance around. It was like kill everybody in here. Why are you going to talk so much before? They don't die like and before delimitation. Oh you did okay. So Julie who had gone to the bathroom and missed out on the killing spree witnesses all of this and manages to escape escape on her own under. Oh I was like okay. Michael may movie. I've got to do thing. Yeah okay. Surprising prizing jumping pool right. So now the bad boys have to figure out who this witnesses and they have to find her but she calls calls them first but and she wants to talk to Mike lowry because her friend Max had talked him up so much. Yeah but he's not at his desk and she's like well. I only WANNA I wanNA talk to Mike lowry so then marcus pretends to be Mike. This phone the weird or plot points in the movie because it like they could have bailed on on this live pretty early on and probably like with no consequent right I think with it right they really like keep doubling coming down on but like why. It's not a trickle woman. The movie in the nineties is chicken. Yes they're just doing it to do it after a while. Yeah it'd be weird like Shakespearean comedy of errors. We're like okay fine. It's it's weird it's weird but it's a Michael Bay movie anyway right so then. Marcus goes over to her apartment. Still pretending to be Mike Mike lowry and the bad guys show up. He helps her escape. This time. Then Marcus still pretending to be Mike. Tame read right takes Julie to Mike's Apartment and leaves her there because she refuses to go anywhere protective custody except for Mike lowry's Condo condo which is like a hard to trace the logic there I think maybe because her best friend trusted him also the guy who got murdered in the heroine thing who was also a criminal was cop so she was like Oh the journey. I can't go there. They're going to give me up. So let's go to your uh-huh House Mike lowry okay. She that helps. That's how all black people say our like lower season so now they gotta do. This whole Switcheroo were. Mike has to pretend to be marcus and stay with Marcus his wife and and they don't but they do for some way. And then Marcus stays at Mike's Place pretending to be Mike. And he's protecting Julie the witness Nisa then he start showing Julie Mugshots to see if any of the people are someone that she recognizes as one of maxes killers. And there's this one guy that she does recognize Noah so then Mike and Marcus go to a nightclub called club hell was that was a big one for me and it and it follows through on the name not close I I can't I mean there's Larry Brown piss in the urine like goes year. They're like bodies hanging from the ceiling. That are wrapped in aluminum foil. Rigo you won't some bad to happen. That's when you have a death wish we're going to. There's also like this giant fish tank. That serves a window into the men's restroom. Okay but to be fair if there's not a fish tank at the club at the movie are you even at a club at the right. And then also what are they going to smash into. Yes ask you gotta break the fish to s the route. That's the rule of move fish. Yeah that's the new rule rule of fish. So they're at club Hell Hell to look for no other bad guy. And Julie Decides that she's going to go to and she brings a gun that she gets out of Mike's Apartment and the bad guys and the bad boys they all spot each other. There's there's this big fight that breaks out then there's a car chase the bad boys and Julie get away once again but they still. I don't have any real leads. Then there's this whole thing where like Julie pretends to be Horny for Marcus. And she's like well will Smith. It's so Hot and then at least this misunderstanding. Where Marcus things they? Mike is having sex with his wife. Also unnecessary thank us in a kiddie pool. Because the thing about Mike and Marcus is that they're bad boys for life but they also fight so much testosterone DASTA. My favorite part of that is when they finish the fight the gun slides out of the Katie Pool. So they've been fighting like armed guilty. Ah Wrestling with good. Yeah so masculine But they won't date a man who has five fire okay. So then that's ridiculous so they're still trying to figure out who was behind stealing the heroin and like what they plan plan to do with it. Then Marcus's wife. His wife shows up and she's mad at Marcus for lying to her about going to Cleveland. But it still framed and like oh she's such an obstacle right exactly. She's why is she so mad. We'll leave the lies. I told YOU TO RE SO I. I'd right but then there's also means the Jig is up and Julie now knows that Marcus was lying about being Mike lowry. Just then the bad guys show up again another gun fight ensues and the and we got a Damsel this Taylor gotta dams. They kidnap her and they get away with her she's emotional and that's why she decided to become a Damsel in the rest of the time and now she's like. I'm just going to walk the streets by myself. Because I'm mad at you. The cubs right by snatch her excuses like well. If Marcus wife can find us than the bad that guy is can find us to and it's like that doesn't track. Think like Marcus. His wife would know where my glory lives anyway. So they've kidnapped kidnapped her and they're getting away so now Mike. Marcus only have a couple of hours before the big deal goes down and suddenly. There's another important female character. Francine she is. I think like a secretary. Yes but the precinct I thought they were. Maybe a little mean to France grant. They're a little hard on. Francine 'cause Francine they the the bad guys go to get information from it and they're like well kill your son if you don't give us permission. So obviously she gives it to them and then she reports this to Mike and Mike Okay. Like he's like he's like what. What choice did she have will Smith? She's being blackmailed. I think with like photograph they allow. Yeah took news of her and then they were threatening to post them at her son's school they weren't even. I don't even think they're starting to a horny. Arne blackmail very low stakes blackmail in the nineties. Because like how far could you get with some nudes online like now we can put him on twitter order back. Then there's like old timey like what do you have to scan them into the component. You're GONNA take me to my son. Iraq's this polaroid felonies. I should've tried to kill this on. That makes more sense. Oh I was trying to sympathize. Yeah Okay That's all upload my Fuji News My Grainy Food uh-huh yeah. That's Francine she yeah. She's been blackmailed. So she was like giving the bad guys them mm-hmm information but then she helps out Mike Marcus and then they know where to go now so they go to this airplane hangar. Because that's where like the big the drug deal is GONNA go down. And then there's another big fight and I honestly stopped writing the recap here so I don't totally remember what happens. I feel like they win. And then they rescue Julie Win Day. Rescue her their final than will Smith is able to say. I love you too Martin Lawrence which is his I kind of actually really liked that little arc anyway. The guy's body also over and like really not concerned about it. Let's moments happen over. Guys Body Will Smith is like I love you my friend friend. And he's like well and then Taylor. Am I cool. And they're like yes and there's a dead man there. Though all cool and then Martin Lawrence Handcuffs Will Smith and then he's like I gotta go see my wife recent I can. I'm going to fuck my wife. Who as far as we know is still mad and it him right so and that's the end of the movie all right? Cool the bad boys to do when they come forward you. Let's take a quick break. Yeah Stu it Hey Caitlin is swimming be stinky. Sometimes there is a solution. It's called native deodorant. Well we both use yes. Dod Him using it for many months and our stink factor has gone way down automating dot. Also what I like about native is that it's safe. It's formulated without aluminum. 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Bay's direct to`real debut Byu. He has directed some music videos at this point. He's famously directed a meatloaf that video and so he's coming in and but even though what's his first movie he very confident about his ability to direct this movie so there is great. I think we talked about it in the Rock and entrance. This is the third Michael Bay movie offering. And that's maybe something that we should keep in mind about our technology that's true but so we've used article a bunch but it is a oral history publishing g coup in twenty eleven. Call an oral history of Michael Bay the most explosive director of all time. Sure sure so. I pulled some quotes about bad boys So one of the producers of the movie Jennifer Klein said quote there. There was no script when they started filming. Bad Boys. Oh So that's something that shocking. No Martin Lawrence does a lot of Improv. It did it seems like hey we need to fill up two minutes before we get to the plot point so you just you just let it rip okay. We'll figure it out in. The edit room is just like safe. There was like a moment where Martin Lawrence should've told Mike lowry that he had the woman in his apartment but instead of saying he's like why. Why did we come home last night? For more ponder where was it. Doesn't that for like three minutes. A woman in his house and another thing is hurting today. Because and I'm like the you know we need more screen time more. We could just fill the time and I mean there's they're all like weirdly. Half improvised scenes in Michael Bay. Movies are weird or offensive but like in this one. There was a weird conversation they had about like who were they were they to. Other detectives who were like Lucille Ball is stupid. Oh yeah and then they said something like racist about Desi Arnez and then and then and and then the scene starts and it has. There's always some Black Latino conflict. Because it's in Miami so gotTA keep it true to Miami blacks and Latinos gotta gotTa argue with each other and we are going to hire three white male writers. But let's make it authentic. You're like Yikes so the most interesting interesting part of the oral history for this movie is That surprise surprise Martin Lawrence and not a big fan of Michael Bay's when this movie was being made but but I guess later he was like I guess I don't care this is twenty eleven. Maybe you know he has since made a hard turn on my bet. So I'll just read this exchange so Michael Bay says quote by week. Two Martin was being addicted to me and I was like. What is this attitude? He didn't trust the white man. That was the deal unquote Martin. Martin Lawrence says quote. That's exactly what it was. You know. Michael he has a certain bravado auto one time he said to me. I need your notes on the script and I looked at him. I said Michael Yell you the notes when I get to it and he looked at me with this blank stare like oh he did not so. They're just like okay. Michael Bay says quote. Eventually I took Martin aside and said Dude. What's your deal? I'm busting my ass to make you look good. Make you look funny funny and you just keep belittling me eight and you look Sunny Lawrence Music video director And then here's the speech. Almost like it was ready to come out. Martin says I'm a black man that made it from nothing and this is okay. This is the wild okay and I said and Michael Bay said you know what I'm a white guy who made it from nothing to I grew up in the valley slavery in the Fucking Valley and the quote ends instant respect and then Martin Lawrence has quote. I had to get to know him. We grew to be the coolest this we we don't know didn't we. I grew up in the fucking valley alley. It's just like being a black man in America. Let me tell us the CIA this fucking man. He's war robot so so that's some background where where everyone's coming from bath the valley so he's really experienced a lot of hard ship coming from Pasadena anyways And then there's like some other stuff just about how like this is Michael. Bay's movie where he basically establishes pushes his corny over the top style. And Will Smith didn't okay. So Will Smith says quote. Michael Bay was like. Oh take your shirt off and run with the gun and I was like come on on man. That's that's just on the edge of Corny but Michael can take things you'd think of as Corny and make it super galactic iconic. Unfortunately I would contest this I mean let's not forget. That Wilson was a libra as though you know honestly trying to keep the scales vows. He knows mearns over over here. Like I'm a black man. Who is this music video director? And he's like all right Michael Cheese keep everybody happy. I'll pull out these six SABS come on now. I'm not mad at it. No I mean I'm glad to shop is there. I mean I wasn't unhappy with it but I will see Wilson's Ads Anymore time. He wanted to give them to me. It's formative so So that's the production background and this movie did incredibly well It had what had a nine hundred million dollar budget which I guess Michael Bay ended up sinking of a bunch of his own money in it to make the explosions bigger one. Hello course but it made almost one hundred million dollars at the box office. Did really well meant that he could make the Rock and basically. This is the reason that we're stuck with him. Another the thing I thought was interesting about the background of this movie. Is that originally the people that were going to be cast but rescheduling thing was John on love it. Dana Carvey down movie would have saw snow. And what would that job. Even as Dana Carvey is what. Oh wait them as bad as you know instead of will Smith and Martin Lawrence isn't that like You know everything everything ended up then. Everything's better garth. No no we'll Smith was also not supposed to be in they wanted Arsenio Ennio Hall. Yes I read the and he said no and they're like all right we'll Smith because this was like we'll smits movie where they're like. Oh He's like a movie star. Yeah yeah he's not just like a TV boy so this is like a big. They got very lucky that that casting fell through because Jesus did they have it wrong. Sesame a sexy Miami movie you're GonNa have of these actors this been horrible. The Combo of Michael Bay's corneas shots. And then these corneas men. uh-huh oh my God it would have been really bad. Yeah so so. That's that's a little bit of the context gap for Ya. Thank you you Jane me well. So let's talk about the ladies showy. Yeah well this is a movie that has always been the title voice in the title so it is not too concerned with women unfortunately Women generally framed as either being nagging frigid shrews or just meddlesome police captains. Or if we're talking about Tahiliani the main female all character of the movie is constantly damsels old harassed Anytime a woman shows emotions. There's like a disproportionate consequence consequence. Like he was saying like Taylor. Leoni shows emotion like really one time when she storms out and she's immediately like it did. Yeah Um also seems to be putting moisturizer on her legs. A lot of this press. Her legs were very dry. The most arid legs moving so this is nothing new for Michael Bay but he loves to objectify and overly sexualize women's bodies in his movie. Oh be something that stood out to me was Taylor. Leoni seemed to have a bunch of sexy changes of clothes at a place. She did not live right yes And she didn't pack pack the place they were shot out of there by fire so the assumption is that Mike lowry has sexy. Women close was actually could track. He's like the era size for like. She's wearing a leather dress when she needs them. And where did this come from. Well there's that scene where like a masseuse shows up at his apartment ready to like give will smith a massage and then Martin Lawrence has to go away honestly my dream role but so I think we're meant to believe I think we're meant to believe that women are just showing up at Mike Lowery's apartment all the time and presumably leaving items of clothing behind behind. And every time you know Martin comes back to the apartment is like oh I was just Lotina Pussy. What's up Lubin myself up in case something? I have a quick list though of all the of the main moments in which women's bodies are overly sexualizing We've got the opening shot where a scantily clad woman gets out of the car with the other criminals. The bad guys. She just walks past the bad boys to distract them so that the criminals can carjack them. So it's just like a woman there as a prop basically to distract the bad boys voice Then there's the scene where that you talked about Lacey. where she's just like putting lotion on this very sexy way? Even though she's alone in a stranger's yeah I do it. Every day it was there was another one where like I guess they're about to go to bed and Martin Lawrence is pretending to be my Larry Harry. So he's like she's like come to bed and she got her feta. She's got like a belt around her feet or something she's just like playing with the legs. That's weird because it's like we haven't really been given any indication that she's into him. She seems very mistrustful of him and right so so. I think what's happening here is that she's starting to catch onto the fact she's a Goya's bluff. Yeah but it's not totally clear because the first time I watched it I was like. Oh she's just really horny for him all of a sudden and then the second time I was like Oh wait no I think she's actually trying to like call his bluff but it's not clear one way or the so. They're still through making her stupid because the second that she sees will smith she should be like. Oh I went to a house where all of your photos were near. Beg To in to real quick. But she's she's a stupid lady with boobs so she'll believe this man she and then there is that not same seeing. There's I mean there's there's a bunch of like no homo. Oh this movie that do not age well in weren't good then But that's another way she sort of tries to call all is love and I like it. He immediately go full no homo right. Because she sees all these photos of will Smith in the apartment and she's she's like Oh who's that I thought he might be your lover and Martin Lawrence is like. Oh No you're not my lover I'm not gay. He's my I police partner. Yeah it's just like totally no homo. Moment Martin. Lawrence is horrified by the idea that someone might think he's gay. Yeah well that's one horrible way to approach this. Yeah yeah so I know that using Michael Bay as a yardstick is unwise unwise and we can't but but I mean it it is interesting just like because we've seen so much of his filmography now for some reason to see someone's attitude towards women get worse over time like expert like there. There's a lot I mean. There's a lot out of homeworks of like how badly Michael Bay treats female characters in this movie. But like she's being treated like a queen compared to how like Megan Fox street treat it like it's a power dynamic. As soon as Michael Bay had the power then it was like okay we come here you skank bitch I'm GonNa make you a star. Better say thank you and maybe give me some sex. And he's like also just one of those guys who you know like before. He had things in the valley. I'm sure in his life when he was a black man in the valley a a big struggle for him was he couldn't get bitches he's not like a good looking guy in by bitches. I mean that's what Michael Bay calls women and and I mean I've seen keenum at restaurants and shit and he's also the youngest girls young is low like twenty seven one thousand nine hundred twenty s. Stop so I think it's a thing of like as soon as he. I started getting more power. It's like okay now I can say how does it lessen God she does not surprise me at all Yeah I mean the way even in this movie where he probably because this is his first feature like he's probably not given a whole enormous ton of creative freedom freedom at least in terms of like how he treats female characters Ryan. I mean even in this movie. There's still so much like objectification mistreatment of women I think that's just like the action in franchise it's like drew you're gonNA have cars. You'RE GONNA have explosions and you're gonNA have legs and acitivity. There's a scene. Where like they're running there? There's like a chase one of many chase scenes but one of them. They run through like a photography. Shoot where women are just like in bikinis interrupted shoot that like just decided have to be in the movie at all. There's one there's that scene where they ran outside and there's a bunch of people in wheelchairs and they just knock knock someone. Why do that what are you doing right? People with disabilities are treated as an obstacle in this. And that's and that's like Michael go babe bread and butter shit too. It's us because it's like. I didn't dislike Julie's character at least in the abstract I feel like she. He sucks because I'm just comparing it to other action movies and Michael Bay movies so we're not operating in you know like women in an action. Franchises still really not that much. And if there are it's just a reboot of an all male franchise and then everyone gets upset But I did. I think that Julie participated more than your average action sideline. I mean. She's still largely sidelined but at least she contributes in some moments and like there was like there's that scene towards the end where she like insists on being allowed to be there and be involved and I mean she's basically basically wrong because she doesn't have a weapon or any way to defend your cells or ability right but I guess that that I don't I mean I feel like she. He does more than your average like woman in a nineteen ninety s era action. But that's not saying they're yes she also. She like fines lines because they the bad boys Aka the good guys are constantly handcuffing. Her to a vehicle So at one point she finds the handcuff keys and like steals it and hides it so that the next time they do that she's like no I'm not GonNa let them Handcuff me to the steering wheel which pays off like. After she gets kidnapped she's put in handcuffs and then she's able to use those keys to free herself and then she does something. I don't totally remember. I think she drives the truck into some of the barrels of ether thing. I loved the barrels of ether. Thankfully because there was a conversation between like the I love the evil guy just for purely being able and really not being. That smart goes down to the chemists lab where they're cooking up the drugs. Where why am I taking so long? And they're like it's very humid in here so it's hard cook the drug. I don't care I'll kill you both and then you won't get the drugs. I don't care I'll kill you like this. This is not a productive conversation Sir like I just love how brazenly evil he is yeah. I enjoyed it third her and so he talks with the guy at the CIA and he's Heyman watched it truck and be careful and then he's going to walk away and then the guy's sliding cigarette and he comes back and slaps and he's back there and it's like well you didn't tell the guy who was running truck and he was had explosives like expect. I loved him he was just so like one note villain I did like like I mean it is like in and actually like this. It is fun when the only smart people are the heroes and everyone else is aggressively dumb as rocks like Martin Lawrence has and Will Smith are smart and everyone else is dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb and in the way. Yeah yeah the including several of the female characters who get not that much screen time but like his wife is treated as usually just an obstacle through withholding the I think that the withholding of sexes like more hit on than usual as you see this become like our running joke because the the first exchange of dialogue in the entire movie is Martin Lawrence basically basically saying like wife is true. Who Will Not fuck me so I have to eat this big Mac in your Porsche instead? And then will Smith's like well she's hot right. And then it's like Martin. Lawrence is regarded as a good man because he doesn't try to fuck anybody else. Even the his wife is withholding signs right and then a few minutes after that We see him try to have sex with his wife and she's like no. You didn't come home early enough last night. Also like seven. AM and their kids have to graduate school but yeah she's such a bit right fight and then like Mike keeps teasing marcus about like not getting any from his wife he keeps teasing himself about it. Like it's just a like a running gag. There's there's like a phone call or two with her where he'll like. It seems like there's at least one example of Martin Lawrence calling his wife and being like. Hey Hey can I come home and and you will fuck me and like like this is a call that happens between spouses. And she's like no he is like why not and and then and then like his like boss will be like. Hey stop asking your wife too. Fuck you we've got police work to do like this. Like what like manual annual fee. Like if he wanted to cheat he should have been able to because she would never look. He tried seven times to give them some Kuchi during the movie and then she shows up all mad ad when she's not sleeping with him like what are you. What is this narrative right raising his three children? She's busy. There's also that I've seen where I think it's after. Will Smith got thrown out of a window and got concussed and It's when Martin Lawrence is supposed to be telling him about the woman that's in his apartment but instead he's like he's just yelling Adam and being like where where are you. And then we'll Smith is like oh listen to you yelling. You're like a nagging wife and it's like Oh this movie hates doesn't think highly of women We got to take another quick break. It's co- come back soon and talk more okay. caitlyn still make a weird the hey jamie yeah here we are here. We are to tell you about a tour that we have coming up and January. Twenty twenty -solutely absolutely gang gang. WE'RE GONNA be in San Francisco on January twenty second we'll be there for SF sketch fest at the Gateway Theatre and we are covering the social network Then on January twenty four th. We'll be in New York for the Brooklyn podcast festival at the Bell House. L. BE COVERING BLACK SWAN. Wow We and then on January twenty six. We'll be in Philadelphia at good good comedy theater and we're covering the six cents. I met a lot of a lot of kind of freaky movie movie. Yes in some darkens Logical thrills more details in ticket links are on our website at Bechtel Dot Com and Click on the live tab. Let's see we're back. I want to say one more thing about Julie. While we're still her things that I liked that she did. It was rescued herself at the beginning when her friend was killed. She doesn't need to be rescued by some nameless male character. I like that she calls the cops uh-huh and is like. Hey this is what I need bubble Blah and Maybe that's it. Oh and I like that it. It seems like again. It's like at least I think you're totally spot on with like just Mike Obey doesn't have enough power yet to make the movie as a sexist as he would want to but he even though it's like they're well they do chain Taylor Leoni and will Smith together at the end. The handcuff them together. But they don't kiss and I thought that that was a lot of restraint for Michael Bay. was that there was a woman in the movie the whole time and she didn't even kiss anyone true. That's that's some bay restraint. Also fascinating that so Mike lowry Mike lowry new that the boxing girl in the gym was a call. Yes so when he finds out that she dies pulls up the sheet and he's like all hurt and shake cut to to Martin Lawrence being like. Hey I got other girls friend in your apartment. He's like you have a hooker in my house right. You have a great house and it's like the other girl. It was technically illegal to be very nice to her. Like what's once been worse than the like so. This movie has a strong contempt. End For sex workers sex work. Yes and I so on the Wikipedia for this movie scholar coming at this from a scholarly course Max is described as both a sex worker and his ex girlfriend. Oh which I don't know maybe it was like a line of dialogue. We missed or this could be inaccurate. But that was how I was trying to contextualized. That relationship is that they knew each other possibly through sex work but also they'd had some sort of relationship and I think that this movie like it's very nonspecific sex work they're like it seems like escort. It's not very specific about what it is but it was like pretty egregious that there's two black women with significant roles or I mean significant being a stretch But there's Martin Lawrence his wife and then there's Max who killed off almost daily. Although she does one one good spinning honey trying to figure out who the actor who played her was and it was Karen Alexander who was Like she is a pretty cool story. She's like a she is a model model actor. Yeah which I mean. I think you can always tell when when a model turned actor. But she's a modern Dr she like Did a lot of cool cool activism work to get black models. More accepted in American mainstream culture in the eighties acted for a little while. And now she's represented by trump model management. So you life is crazy. Life comes at you fast very fast. Yeah but yeah that was so like and then also the like Madam Madam who she has over sation of Lois. Yeah they're they're both murdered. So all the sex workers we see unscreened. This movie are punished by I being murdered for being experts and they make it and they go out of their way even though it is not plot relevant to not make Taylor Oni a sex workers. Well they they go out of their way to make it clear. She's like well. I'm not a sex worker but I'll be an escort for tonight because you're my best friend. I'm a photographer and I'm struggling. The scene. That passes battle-tested is so horribly written. It is like it passes the Bechtel test. Because it's Julie and Max talking to each other about general stuff. They're just screaming exposition but like they're not even looking at each other like they're acting like when are you making Info I contact with someone in your explaining your job and like look I am not a sex worker. I don't condone sex work however I am a beautiful white woman who does photography Offi an art of life. So I will go with you to this event but now that I'm an unwilling participant and then Max is like okay. I still have feelings for will Smith Entail. And he's like okay and then they walk in. You're just like like Taylor. Leoni is basically screaming like yeah I am a white woman who is not a sex worker worker like she's screaming to the audience. I'm going to live right. It's just oh it's so much I forgot that we learned that. She's a photographer. At least we know what she does them leans is also just like the. It's still like the stock photo of like film jobs for Wayfair Women Beautiful woman who skating our way through life photography polarized. She's got those somehow. This is a job like well do you think she took the photos of Francine no she would use her skill. That would be really funny. Yeah but yeah I guess I mean we learn again not to give this movie any credit whatsoever but I was surprised is that we learn a little bit about Julie in that we get a sense of some of her sort of like code of ethics in that she Does Not ah eat meat. She's a vegetarian. I liked that. I thought that that was like fun and also cute. Because you're like oh the the boy writers are like what it should be say about her. I don't eat flesh. She goes on this rant about Bologna. You're like okay. I don't know no no Bologna. Tahiliani baby fun. I love it. Sorry about that So yeah we get to facts ax about her but yeah they did max's character so dirty it's sucked and on top of that where they it's just like that thing where a writer you know that this character is GonNa die obviously so they don't even bother to characterize her they're like okay well We don't need to say we don't even need to say if she has an interest. Kristen anything except will Smith because we need her death to move forward the narrative of Will Smith and Martin Lawrence the narrative just like sacrifices her. The movie movie can happen. And it's also the scene where she gets shot Michael Bay. The cornish jumped out like it's like she spins circle. He grabs a pillow and it's behind his back in. The Evil Guy shoots her through the pillow and the music and then zooms in on an APP which is like the expression of Aba has just been shot and then it wasn't enough that she's like falling in slow Mo.. Oh of course. There's a glass table behind her. Because why not why not. She's never comes up again really after like you get that shot of Martin Marc's like Oh no it's will smith's eggs and then he's like and then we'll smith goes yeah and but then they sort of stopped talking about it like it becomes about the crime in the bad guys but it sort of stops being about. There's one moment when they're like it's like after a chase scene scene where the the bad guys get away and they're like darn it. We still don't know when the big drug bust is happening and then Julie's like who cares about that. What what about US leading the killers Max getaway like? That should be our motivation. And they're just like all right. Max Yes I remember this yes. It's just it's coming back to me. Also that was the only at Bobby that they were sambre around. Every other dead body was like comedy. Jam uh-huh Martin Lawrence Music and we will call man. It's there by looking. We'll play with his mouth like just really carry Garrett and they kill her like her she's like laid out shot to death in the most model like she looks like Angel. There's like the smallest bit of blood on on the side of her face and was like my own I got and then forgets about her. Two seconds later wrote that at least Halio Onis like. Hey that's that's my friend. I'm not here for no reason. She at least sticks up for the bad guys plot was a little stupid. Just seems like you guys got the heroin. The girls already ready with the cops. So she's talked she's already talked. Why are you also focused on killing her? Do the deal she literally. She's is already with the cops like we should just do. Our thing are drug thing instead of showing up everywhere that you could potentially get got to try to kill it. There's not A lot of logic perhaps no role alison sinclair for his. I go well. Yeah I liked I mean again. It's just like another kind of empty emptied gesture or they accidentally wrote into female characters. where she's like a like she's a little bit above them right or is she a I like captain and she? She writes she. She comes from like internal affairs or something like that so she's presented as an obstacle as many of the other. The female characters in this movie are But she's like breathing down. Joey Pantoliano has neck about like horse. Solve this case or else the press is going to have have a field day. I mean she's definitely written to be a bitchy applicable a ball buster WanNa make assurances bitchy obstacle. Ah New merged but that she's right. She shows online every once in a while. And then it's like it's like L.. Comes up to her and cats. It goes on and you just disappears from this team. Yeah inaudible affable and then she disappears she so she's there and you're like okay Also also like they. I feel like I don't know if this was just the ninety s but both the women who you work for the police department have the same severe blonde haircut like it was. I confusing allison and Francine because they had the same haircut A It's like bleach bleach blond and some kind of girl. How do you describe that haircut? Sure hair doesn't fall that way anymore. Yeah I don't know what the different time. The gravitational pull of the earth different qualities. It must have been maybe with Cyndi lauper popular living eighties. I Don time. Maybe it's Jonah. It was Madonna Bleach Blonde weird hair like express yourself. Yeah that's long time expressed it. was that hair. It was a haircut. Yeah Okay so is the human nature haircut was yes. So they're so they're just is like trying to be Madonna but it's confused they were like give me to Madonna's who work in the preceding one of them gets a few lives the other one's a traitor. There's there's a friend. CEO Yup that's it and they were also wearing nineties type. Clothes like which actually isn't weird to have in a Miami. PD like women dressed. It's not like police officers per se because that's like a thing in Miami is like the the suit leggings is what we call them like. Everyone dresses like a little more. Hyper sexualize at the workplace Okay that's actually not a weird thing for the movie okay. Interesting Kootenai Miami. It's just you know you get a highlighter. Better Pallet Wardrobe and everything's tied. I've never I've never been too hot. It's just hot humid hot by the rugs won't cook the humidity's humidity's okay. I just wanted to talk about cop movies just for a moment because this is one of many many many that it's it's for the boys the boys the target audience is men The characters are mostly men. These movies can't envision a world world where women would be participants in the story in the context of anything besides them being like the damsels who get dragged along yeah in terms terms of cop movies that prominently feature a woman as an officer. I can think of silence of the lambs I can think of Zootopia. I can think of no the heat and kind of the list kind of stops there for at least off the top of my head and and any and if you're a listener that's like I need to tweet another movie. That's not the point. There's not a lot don't add nice And on the other hand there are dozens and dozens and dozens of COP. Movies about boys yes But the fact that this is a big budget movie with two black leads is great yet. Also I don't think that people look at bad boys as police movie They don't really act act like police. They don't ever drive a police car not very good at being pool. Yeah this is like just you two homeboys who I guess work in the police car the just kicking having a good time maybe a sexy maybe solving a crime like I've never looked bad boys movies and been like. Oh the cops look so cool. How ever notice how they're looked at by people who are in law enforcement and by men sometimes because like there was recently like maybe a month and a half ago? There was a shootout in Miami when they were trying to act like fake ass bad boys and this shit. I'll pull the specific incident but it was with a ups truck. Oh they stole. UPS truck these criminals and they also kidnapped the guy who was driving the ups truck so then Miami PD thought. This was bad boys moment so they out on the mother fucker highway soon net. UPS draw the UPS truck shooting back. They are high bear shielding themselves. I wish this was a lot. No cells with real civilians who are in cars. They're oh hiding behind the bar and shoo shoo likely thought they were in bad boys so unfortunately this does really dumb ass police who wanna get their kicks. I've never regarded batboys movies. Like Oh cops I don't move. I actually forgot that this was a cop movie before started. Wha like they just have good they really could be rogue vigilantes and the movie and the movie also has the character Dr specifically remind you that they're cops several times and I don't think that that's a mistake because yeah they don't they don't address like cops they don't travel in. I mean there's this and I think the movies he's more like fun that way like cop. They also kill a lot of pace. So many people and Martin Lawrence at one point is like to Julie he's like the bad guys probably already know where you live so I'll just leave now and let them come find you and kill you and good luck with that. And then she's like no way eight. Please protect me. And he's like okay fine but yeah that's up there like rifling through all the crime scenes like messing up crime scenes like not good cops wild I love and I love the trouble of their boss just yelling at them as their last day but it never is just the last time you know one thing I did like was and it was was it deeply couched in no homo rhetoric. DOC pitched particularly at the beginning. Es But when when at the beginning when Martin Lawrence Will Smith that he loves him. He's your my partner. I love love you have whilst Beth is like no homeowner Hama Hama and we're like I hate nineteen ninety five so much and then but then at the end there's a little friendship arc mark. Where Will Smith in the first and only time any sort of toxic masculinity is overcome in a Michael Bay movie Will Smith tells Martin Lawrence. Since you're my partner I love you. Are they standing over a dead body. Of course there that makes it no homo. As long as there's a man that they've just killed old than we know that they're straight I mean if there wasn't a dead by how another not lovers you know what I mean there's also between this in the middle of this arc. There is another weird no homo scene. where I think you wouldn't even necessarily catch it unless unless you had the subtitles on which is why I watch all my movies with subtitles rag yet? You can read Masters degrees from the university then Henry so I love watching Halen read honestly. It's a pleasure all day to watch it all day. They say you can make money out of anything I read. I pay her for. Thank you for that There's this the seamer they go into like a Bodega and end notable actors Shaun Taub. Not entirely sure how to say his name but he plays like the Bodega owner. And he he sees that Martin Lawrence Will Smith both have guns and he thinks he's about to get robbed so he pulls out a gun on them but because he he English and his first language. The actor is Iranian. I don't know who the what the character is supposed to be but it feels like their son racist stereotypes. They're Jelly trope doubt. And that's like I mean another I'm like I. I was surprised. There wasn't more of that in a Michael Bay movie because it's like an transformers movie Dobie twenty-five like that in a row right Also it's Miami so they were ripe for making those scenes. 'cause it's such a cultural melting pot that you can you know insert whatever racial. Trophy Watt wherever you want right. So they really. They really liked pulled back. Yeah and I think still to date. The transformers franchise is the worst example of the highest concentration of Michael Bay racism and like not coincidentally. That's the Franchisee is power over but yet But but any case so in this in this scene where We've got this Bodega owner. Who He's saying something like he's holding a gun to them and he's like I will blow you meaning meaning like I will blow you away with my gun and then Martin Lawrence is like blow me? No you can hump me but blow me like it's really weird. It's really to arrive at offensive joke. They're trying to make to hold Improv. And Yes yes. Oh we Martin Lawrence just had that at the top hop of his head. How incredible their although I at the end of that scene I like her that scene? And when Will Smith has the gun and he's like get me was tallish. dammit Michael Bay you got me got me at the end it was. It was racist and homophobic and then Okay and they somehow stuck the landing horrible. I think they'll I think those lines were improvised so it has nothing to do with Michael Bay. It was yeah it was it was always the bad will and Martin and skittles. I've a similar joke is made in a similar racist joke made in this movie. That is made in transformers where you're a character speaks a few words of Spanish and then up character who does not speak Spanish. Like what the Hell did you say English English please actually in Miami. This is especially riddick especially working for the police right. You Ain't ever had to nobody in saying you don't know what the word conseillers days means. You've never heard that word before okay. One time for the Senate foe so many content to But it is Michael. Bay's favorite joke. Because he keeps using it over and over to Larry as he told he regales all the nineteen year olds he hangs out with a hilarious. Larry Jokey came up with thirty years ago literally. Oh my favorite part of the movie is here. We go ready at the very beginning. When in Martin Lawrence and will Smith or being carjacked? They're like hey we're cops. You're messing with cops right now. In the carjackers. Oh yeah well. I'm a stand up. Comedian an is a lot like representation of a man of a stand up comedian. A man admitting that he sucks at stand up comedy hasn't can happen for us and we need to see more of it. Incredible I forgot. I really did like that to know that Michael Bay's first first job in film was working on raiders of the lost Ark. No does that. He was like an intern on raiders of the lost Ark. Do you think he met Alfred for Molina. He better not have their state of fuck away from him. I got so pissed if they've met the just the meeting if they met him passing him. But so I guess this is another dislike. Michael Bay is always been the worst so he's living his really difficult life in the valley and gets this internship horrible for him on one of the most famous movies all the time like us so difficult. He struggling He's an Internet radio the loss and I guess he spends his whole time on that movie. Being like this movie's GonNa Fuck Fuck tape and then when it comes out he said Oh it was good. I WANNA be a film director now too and George. Lucas actually contributed to the the Michael Bay oral history and he was. He was shady in a way that I thought was funny. She said Michael's films are identifiable. Like good for you George. Lucas says you know what you want to New York side you want and then you just get a whiff of something. That's like Michael Bay identifiable you know. And you know you pass into Michael Bay uh-huh Lucas out here being a bitchy obstacle to Michael Bay. Believe it George Lucas Channel that energy. I thought it was really funny. I hate that this movie's Fund to watch. I know but now I'm like should I say the new one. It's not Michael Bay doesn't appear to be involved at all. It is still written by three white guys as far as I can tell yes. It's a time honored bad voice tradition. It has to be written by people who do not know what they're talking about. Formula Works Excess. Yeah Yeah they have to new directors. I mean who knows maybe maybe it will be all used my AMC stubs membership ship to see it for free. I tried to unsign up from that. And then they're like you have to stay for three months Mike von now I have to see bad boys three it makes I will. I do love just like the grotesque waste of money in these movies because I'm bad boys. Two they have one of those carports deliver cars in so you'll have like twelve cars back on each other on a big rig. They have one in bad boys two where they like unloaded and then all the cars. Just start shooting off of the truck. And then they're dodging the cars. That are just flatten. The road and I was like this is so much money you know and it's it's horrible to think about how much money it is. The new ninety ninety million dollar budgets so I have more than that I like cats level him probably with a computer order. These blow of real might lose so much there that was one of the things he mentioned was he like put twenty five thousand dollars always of his own money to make a couple extra cars explode like he worked outside the budget of the MEATLOAF. My he's a black man. He's MEATLOAF money on bad boys explosions. Black people have to do. We'll put in the movie. But you gotta bring some money so he gets. He's got the valley mintel. I hit the fact the fact that he's man Well are there any other final final thoughts. I hate that this movie spun. I know but it's fun. It's bad in in so many ways so bad and yet not Michael Bay's worst as as we've said before I would honestly say of what I've seen one of his best. Yep I this is my favorite Michael Bay movie. That's and that's saying. I never thought I would say day. That sentence and I'm horrified pleased never like if anyone's out there is the lake that clip Ah Yeah Yeah we we. We hope that we've demonstrated that we understand why the shortcomings in the end of its but it's fun to watch what so uh-huh we alluded earlier. That it I guess does pass the Bechtel test. I think even without asterisks it passes in that. Ah Sin because I I was ready to be like. Oh like the scene prior where Max and Lois are talking. There's two lines we're GONNA not explicitly talking about a man but the context in Texas the conversation. Maybe it doesn't pass but then the next thing I'm pretty sure they're talking about Their relationship with each other. I'm a photographer I owe you one. What does she over four for? We don't own. It's referenced. Yeah true but then they do start talking about Wilson's character toward the end of the conversation but there is young that to line exchange at least that technically weekly passes and then also Julie and Theresa Talk to each other. But I think they're talking about men because Theresa shows up at now Mike Lowery's a a condo and she's like my husband here and Julie's like is he the short one or the tall one objecting men love a bit. Michael Bay a woke king. You heard it here first and probably has good politics to you can criticize. Oh right lab brings us to our Nipple scale zero to five Nicholas based on its representation of women still gets like a a point two five. Yeah like you can't give it really I'll give it I'll give it and and and keep my sliding scale give it point five okay because Taylor Oni got to make a few drills truck for ten. She shot a gun once did it ruined ruined club. Hell yes we didn't talk about that. She shot a good one time. She in a club in Miami. It's called Club Hell. It's on brand so point five because Taylor only made decisions and they didn't make her kiss at the end everything else bad bad bad bad bad. Yes boys boys boys as well as bad boys. Look Man I gotta give it a one nipple. Okay all right. Hey because it's got a special place in my heart I'm GonNa even make the nipple. Maybe he's slightly darkened areas of black man Michael Bay and they strong king that she didn't take it and have kids. She got to talk a good deal. I mean there is one scene. Unfortunately it's very resat doesn't truly like surpass the Bechtel test but it does pass the bare minimum requirements and then also you never saw task. Td's I mean she did have to oil the underwear she felt. She falls down at one point and she's wearing a really short skirt and then like her skirt flies. Open you see her underwear okay. Blame that on the wind again. She still style more more respectfully van. We see later. Michael Bay It's not like oh I'm running from the you know cartel in my Bra. There's no will. Smith is the one that won. His shirt is somehow always unbuttoned the wind billowing and he's got to always is be oily and all single people just oily and chat. Let the people know I'm out here. You he's gotTa be catching losing herself as we speak. Sam I friend of the show Sam is brought up in our men in black episodes. Something that I think about often because he said that the female lead in that movie does not kiss. Tessa is that her name No no no. Oh Oh yeah. So the the ninety eight or ninety seven first men in black movie ninety-seven and it's Linda Florentino Right. Yeah so we do not see her. Kiss anyone in that movie. Either but Sam Ike speculated that it's because the male lead that would have been made the most sense to pair her with was black and he speculated that audiences wouldn't have wanted to see an interracial racial so. I wonder if that is why. There's no kissing in this movie because it's the same actor will Smith that will be Dan. Let's take someone nipple back the hairs I mean. This is a relation but it's not farfetched. I remember Samsung also in the nineties. It was at the two thousands of ninety s when save. The last dance came out. I think it was maybe two thousand. Yeah early early. Yeah but that was still when the plot of a movie was. We're an interracial relationship that was the mole plot of the movie. Yeah two thousand one so like thanks. Gop so like that's still like the ninety two won the super close in time periods. So that makes sense at the end of the moved. Look why people will watch to Negro. Just let a black man be president. He's still a man but we don't want to see him women. Okay let's see lips on our women so that makes sense to me I. Yeah Oh that's Shitty. I I thought they would just respecting respecting her. When in doubt always go with races? Yeah all right. Well a shoutout to San Mike Foale probably correctly calling that we thought that maybe that Michael Bay made a choice. That was nice to women but it turns out it was racist. So so yeah my nipple. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA give two point five. Sorry what what point two five cancel me. I gotTA go down ask. Yeah Yeah I'M GONNA go point two five because of like the two things that the Julie character gets to do. But everything as we've discussed is just like framing women. As obstacles framing women as damsels framing women in as frigid shrews A lot of racist. Stereotypes are employed in this movie. A lot of home moments. I mean just runs the whole gamut amount of problematic stuff and it is a Michael Bay movie so we are not surprised but it is fun so yeah Yeah so you know. I think it's mostly fun. Because of Martin Lawrence and will Smith fully the performances that make this movie fund give. It's Michael Bay deserves hammering. You know you know what I really think. It was the extra car. Exploding that really over the top for me the yeah yeah. It doesn't farewell this movie Lacy thank you so much for being here such a treat. You come back anytime your time can we. Can we find you online guys. You can find me a D. I V. A. L. A. Diva Lacy on all platforms and guys. 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Roy Wood JrI Feel Funny

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Roy Wood JrI Feel Funny

"What makes something funny? I think it's pointing out the stuff that's hiding in plain site. I've been working on a bit for a while. I'm going to try and figure out a way to get into next special if it's not too insensitive but the basic premise is that a gas station is a place for murder. If you look at the old filling stations in the fifties where used to be a guy coming out front and squeegee men and checking the fluids and now he's inside behind bulletproof glass. He's got a buzz you in then like even the sign edge on a gas station. Door. It's all set up to prevent murder like there's a sign on the door. It just straight up says we we know how to open the safe right right right right so you've gone in a gas station a whole life but if you've never looked at it from that perspective that I can set a thesis and then I can start making points that hopefully break down and support my thesis. I like to start with what and by the end of the journey that Joe go. Oh Okay I see what you're saying. Roy Wood Juniors Juniors one of the smartest comedians around a brilliant guy who kills it on the daily show and onstage but where most Greek. Comedians are fearless. Roy admits that he's not fearless. He's not that egotistical crush the audience kind of guy. He's a thinker who likes to present his funny thoughts and stories and keep it moving. I love his comedy and it was an honor to have him on the show. Because I think he's star is on the rise as always. This is the patriarch era of Torah. Show we got two great episodes a week for you now including a Friday. Patriotic exclusive just for our Patriot supporters. So for that go to Patriot dot com slash Torah show. And if you're down with US on Patriae on you're only getting half of this APP so join us to hear the whole hysterical amazing thing. Here we go. It's Roy Wood Jr. on Taurus. Show how did you develop a routine and jokes and bits and I studied? I think a lot of COMEDIANS. When they first start I think it's just a it's a gross impersonation of comic you respect for me. My early days were it was a Martin. Lawrence Meets George Carlin performance of which I would never do now like if you watch Martin Lawrence in the ninety s with like faulk it or you so crazy and you watch me. I'm not nearly as expressive. I don't use the stage. The Way Martin does like Martin's stage stock and let Chris Rock where he's you know moving oscillating a lot and now. I'm pretty grounded within. Maybe like a three foot radius of center stage but in those days I was much more. This is what's funny looks like. I gotTa do this big face to get on comic view because that's how mortgage money is Marlin and Martin Lawrence seemed to me to be very different and I feel like there's sort of an and and and build on this for me. 'cause you know this better than I do but there's kind of to kind of comics. Some people who get by on great ideas like Carlin like Chris Rock and some people who are just sort of funny with the sound of their voice and the way they moved their body like Bernie. Mac Like Martin Lawrence where you know almost and he could read the phone book and it would be funny. People need those smart ideas that kill you. Add Carlin is one of those and Martin is the other is. Is that kind of how you can. Yeah I think that's part of what may Richard. Pryor so grace. Because he had all of that in his arsenal prior costanza steel. He could be contemplated he could hit you with something a slow and smooth and then he got length thing point moves that man maybe take to step Soviet come back to senator then be right back centre making a real serious point. I mean he could do a baby being born and it was incredible like that was what I found so fascinating about Chris Rock's tambourine special. Net flicks is that for a better part of front half of the special. It's Chris Rock is you know him or as you're used to seeing him and then the back half of the special when he starts getting personal about his life which is something he's never done on stage not personal phenomena. Be Personal cast steel. Finish it and it became a much more intimate shows so can do both of those things jet. I love a funny but as compelling as Hell Which is why when you come out on the side of it with the laugh. It's almost release as much as it is a punchline but you know my early days I was nineteen. You talk about what you know. So I'm telling jokes about book. Buy Back and y your roommate ways to keep your roommate from eating. Your food. Problem is you're performing to forty rolls and most open mic. So no Florida state had a comedy night once a month. I could get over there and get three minutes. I wasn't a student I lied there. Were there was this woman May I can't remember the last name but there was this white lady who's also from Birmingham and just off the strength of us both being from Alabama. She just played me like Florida state student. And we'll put me on the lineup every week and got me pay. Gigs opening for earthquake. Bobby Lee and all of these other guys but the early days of my stand up. I was performing for adults. What I realized is that I couldn't talk about myself because no one gives a shit. What a nineteen year old is going through. So what are the common denominators between US and figure out? You know jokes around that. I didn't really care a lot about politics but generally if you go food relationships sports you can unify room just off those base three level joke topics. Here's Hatfill about sports. Steroids was starting to bubble up that was starting to become the conversation nationally You know I like this food. I hate that food restaurant on state when the waitress like figuring out shared experiences and I think that a lot of it for me was you know the other thing with the south is at your own stage every week for a different demo comedies. Not every week in Alabama Tallahassee. It's once a month open mic to me so if you're trying to get on stage every week and open might get any stage time. You might be a casino to be used to be a casino gig Katrina to swept away but casino magic in Biloxi Mississippi. You still have a Monday night comedy night and it was terrible and nobody in that room was under the age of sixty five anybody with a Walker wheelchair. Oxygen Tank was front grow. And the next night you perform for Dope Boys and Macon Georgia. So what's the joke was the thing that's going to unify because otherwise you just performing different jokes in every city. You're not getting better so for me. It was sports relationships food. Those are the three. So that's Kinda wear all that. What makes something funny? What's GonNa make us laugh? I think it's pointing out the stuff. That's hide in plain sight. When you see things you take something you see it one way and you're used to seeing one way and a comedian comes in goes with you. Turn it like this. It's really this you know I've been working on a bit for a while. I'm going to try and figure out a way to fit into next special if it's not too insensitive but the basic premise is that a gas station is a place for murder. That's that's the basic premise. Is that no because of crime. No building has evolved more than a gas station. If you look at the old filling stations in the fifties where it used to be guy coming out front and squeegee in and checking your fluid and now he's inside behind bulletproof glass. He's got a bourgeois in like in like even the sign it on a gas station door. It's all set up to prevent murder like there's a sign on the door. It just straight up says we. We know how to open the safe right right right right. That's a plea that's a plea for you to not murder. Don't murder man. I'm telling you now before you come in here. I can't openness at only twenty dollars in the register so you've gone in a gas station your whole life but if you've never looked at it from that perspective then I can set a thesis and then I can start making points that hopefully break down and support my thesis statement which is where allied to come from. I like to start with what and by the end of the journey that Joe. Oh okay I see there is something in like right right when you're laughing like he's she's right like yes. Yes no the building. There's no of the business that you go into and I've I tr- I'm not gonNA say hardcore research but I try to stay as aware as I can when I'm out and I'm taking in the world. There's no other building that you go into. Would there are numbers by the door as you exit the four five six seven? That's by the door on strip when you leave a gas station. That's so that they can estimate the height of the robber is he. I'm serious. That's literally why it's there that so many people have robbed these establishments that we had to put ruler on the door to narrow it down so the bub the fish mirrors in the corner the bright lights the way at the aisles are angled so that you can see down aisles from the outside that sort of the police when there's an they can look in to make sure everything is cool. It set up to prevent murder. So is this something that you pulled into a gas station and you're on your leg. Oh or you sitting at home writing and it comes out of the brain storm of like no. Don't say robbery state murder. Yeah it star. I mean the bigger and I won't get into the whole thing but the bigger the bigger scope of the joke is just about mass shootings and how mass shootings have gone into places that we traditionally considered safe. And that's part of the horror of these places. Were SUPPOSED TO BE SAFE PLACES. A concert of these supposed to be safe places. We know what the dangerous places were. And so from that idea then the idea then. The thought the brainstorm exercise becomes. Okay Roy. What are the dangerous places okay? Nightclubs BANKS CHECK CASHING SPOTS. A pretty dangerous pawnshops. I'm on edge. One upon shot could happen and then gas stations and this is true. I don't get gas at night like that's just not my thing. I don't because it could happen. Yeah that's when it usually happens people driving trucks into gas stations tying up the ATM and driving off on some Wiley Coyote Shit. That doesn't happen to an afternoon so now that I have a list. If it's a brainstorm constructing this joe now I have a list of places that I think that we would. All agree as a society are traditionally dangerous or. It's not a shock if you found out that's something went down at these places. Okay well what is it about these places that says danger when you walk in Okay nightclub as a bouncer? They have metal detector. They've got a stamp. You know they put your picture. Id under that little UV certain some of those UV lights with their checking. Your I D. It's really a camera in their logging. Every single person that came in and out of the building so that there is some drama. The police can just sit and look at a file of J pigs to see who was there. So that's not at most spots and so then you start looking at the gas station. And that's where you make the deduction of all of these different security measures that exceed all of the other affirmation locations that we've deemed and denoted as being dangerous the gas station off the Rip Bright Lights Florida's ceiling windows. There's no gas station will. You can't see below waist level every gas station floor silly. This is all for safety but Seinfeld and others talk about like the economy of words in the usage of words and the placement of words. And you hear folks really thinking about the rhythm of the words and all that stuff matters right I mean member for me is revelatory. I Love Sarah Silverman. I watched Jesus's magic and she does this great thing where she does the bits and it's hilarious and then she has a sort of mousy younger girl saying the same exact words right after at the end and it's not funny right and the way you say the stuff matters immensely right. I I think for me. It's about establishing unique point of view. I I don't think anywhere near Wordsmith like Jerry Seinfeld. I'm more performance and octaves an simple to that twitter sound. Yeah Yeah I saw Chris. Rock is the joy I wish. More people could see their favourite performers. Prepare working for the big fight was bigger and blacker. Matter of fact I'm GonNa it was bigger and blacker where he will go on the road and he came to Birmingham while I was still living there and Chris rock bills at with no performance. No intonation no no vocal tricks just the jokes so that you know for sure the words of funny then when you add stage stalking and you add up octave in a facial expression and a turn not. A joke was on steroids. And now the joke isn't resting upon your performance Solely so I'd try to do that You know I try to go back and find little tricks like you know even when you say the word mass shooting for that joke. What I've learned in building that joke is that I can't say that word. The first time I say that word is in the middle of someone. Laughing is in the middle of the audience laughing about something that already came so the word feels more like a segue of a thought then a landing point because when you land on it then psychologically. I think that the audience immediately goes to the saddest possible place every person in their rooms going to think about the saddest thing to them. And there's nothing I can say do to overcome that. Even the word murder took a while to figure out. Okay here's where I can say it and then it becomes something deeper like in that whole run in the whole run about that bit that I'm trying to work. I talk about how living in New York. New York is a dangerous places. A lot of different ways to die every day just walking down the street you know who train tracks and bricks fallen from forty stories. And that's why I don't understand why people wear noise cancelling headphones. Even when I have on headphones I keep headphone off of my ear. Only one headphone is on my ear. The other headphones just sitting up because this is my murder here birdie ear needs to be able to hear the murder that's happened so if you say murder Ear Inn. Murder is the first time I say murder is murder ear. I can't explain it. I can get a tapes and listen to it but murder becomes associated with funny and it becomes associated with the punchline. So anytime after that that I say murder you know. I don't really mean. I'm not trying to invoke dark fillings in like I'm not making light of it. In that sense you take me serious like you. Go with me on the lighter side of what? I'm trying to say you agree. That murders and funny. Were keep doing that right then. Earns the right to say mass shooting. You only say it once. You only have to say at once. 'cause once you say that you alter the journey of all the dangerous places in the gas station and all that other stuff but it only needs to be said once said in lighter sent so that you just know the Ballpark of where I'm thinking and then after that angle whereby one and that's something that's that you know. I think a lot of COMEDIANS are having to deal with analysis. Just certain words are going to take the air out of the room and you have to figure out all right you can do that. But how are you going to get out of that valley or do you set it up in a way where it doesn't put you in the valley and ask where inflection and tempo and facial expression in all of that stuff I cannot frown while I'm doing this material? Now I can't have a fake grin on my face like a beauty pageant contestant but I have to be upbeat like it's murder and you know I can't do not specific if you love. Toray show and you miss the days of talking about politics on MSNBC and really doesn't then check out my podcast democracy ish where see with Daniel Moody Mills? An arguing strategize about the twenty twenty race may black and progressive perspective. We'd been joking for months now. Like if we still have a country would be our tagline at the end of the show and we made a joke that we would be recording from a bunker. We actually are confined. Democracy wherever podcasts are streamed all right back to Toray show you talk about seeing people work out. I saw Chapelle at the comedy cellar. Which is where a lot of people in New York City? Go to just work out to. Am to seven eight years ago and just to see him. Practicing is clearly practicing. It was extrordinary and I mean it's genius even at a practice level. You'll see him go through thirty minute. Dip and then forty five minutes. I saw him to four hours. And Elliott Neal Brennan's room and it was just. It was a clinic. It was a clinic Shapiro. Walk in at like nine PM. I take my girl and my aunt come home. We home like for four and I'll see you in a bit. I'm about to go get pizza and come back because I knew he was going to post up for so great. I think he's fearless. They should tell us fearless if there were three people. There were three performers if I had the opportunity to watch them prepare not perform. Just prepare. It'd be Chapelle Whoopi Goldberg and salon journals late. Those three like you WanNa know a great steaks man. I saw whoopie. We were working a ABC pilot together. I don't know six seven years ago and they come in with you. Know there's always script changes in notes. Whatever and she's working the view and all of that all day and there's at least twenty new pages in the script and you know you know. Someone's good you know they're legend. You'd have seen it they gave. We'll be Goldberg descript. Sheen seen I know she's. I'm struggling and it's a table read so at table read. That's where the network comes in to see you perform and you basically acting in a chair so we can get a feel for the script or whatever I seen the ship before. I'm nervous and people have lost their jobs at table. Reads like you can go as an actor you perform at a table read and it not be good and the producers. Just feel like you didn't understand the way the jokes were supposed to go to jokes. Didn't work it ain't us as you. You're fired you will get a call from your agent on the way to your car so a table read so just because you got the job. I mean you got the job the perform every day so for me. I'm paranoid this is a network. Sitcom this is my chance. I'm in a corner and I'm just and I don't know what the Hill System Whoopi Goldberg. Got In place. But she's looking through the script and priest everything. One time she said at that table. Other table Reno's a forty five minute table. She looked at the script three times total. She knew lines who you know memorizing shit at a table. Look at the paper. Pretend that you not good. Just pretend straight flex man I am. I don't know how you see someone do something you go home a guy. How do I get to that level? Let I'm not I'm not good. I'm just here in the room salon. I saw I was hosting essence fest in New Orleans when you and she was one of the headliner was an and you know as a whole you know. Everyone's doing sound checks on supposed to come in for sound check to do all the stuff stage directions or whatever the cool thing about soundcheck in essence that you get to watch the artists. The soundcheck salons ran a whole show from the stage you know work in the acoustics in tempo and all that Shit and she goes on sits an audience and then they run the whole show again why she says an audience to watch it from the. Pov of fans still thinking but watching in stopping periodically. Yes trombone to two inches here. Come up dancer. Three you come up. Here are perfect. I let's do it again. Meticulous meticulous stage placement. Which is something. I've been trying to work a little bit on director. You can pull it off but also think that there's something not only to the left and right of stage performance but to the upstate downstate depth. The closing of distance between you an audience and how you can play louder further away. But if you're gonNA play the edge of the stage play that softer and more intimate. Are you fearless? I don't think so. I'm nervous as the whole time. Almost eight nervousness keeps you honest so I like it. I like having the fear but if I feel like I have a will crafted idea and opinion on the issue. I'm going to go with it and I'm cool with whatever comes to that. You know to me the fun. That's the fun is juggling dynamite. There is there's no fun in just telling the joke it's trying to get you to see the world differently even if you don't agree that's the beauty of Carlin even if you didn't agree with him. You still laughed. That takes to me. That takes another level of guts. You know I try. I'm not on that level but I made sure my first special would a father figure. This is a predominantly black audience that I performed it in front of. Let's do a pro confederate flag. Joke out again. You know that joke is so funny because you you you talk about letting me see it in a different way because normally I would see a confederate flag in a tense up and be like that person enough for me and your joke was like yes. We want to know who to stay away from. Yeah so please. Let them have their flag. So we'd okay great. I'm not going over there. Yeah you take the flat. We're GONNA have you know who they are so I need to know who the dangerous white people are. So that's a that's a perfect example of what makes it but you also you attack the stage in a way you don't come out and say hey how you doing. I'm Roy Nice to meet you. Do you just come right up. Choke right away. Let's go let's go. It's what was I can't remember the second special but I do remember the first. The first shot is about police reform and how the military how America treats the events after they come home. We can go. Hey how you doing but I just think the shock of just being dropped in cold water is jarring enough for us to go to go on this journey. Because I don't WANNA I don't want to lie to you with a smile and man. It's good to be here good to see you guys so police reform police are crazy. You know we gotta Pay Tops. More you know because they know snitch on each other. It's like no come out. The gate paid cops more. What the fuck room with. What the Hell is it from? I got your attention. And that's what I need a nature attention. I don't need you to like me. You can decide on that yourself later but I need your undivided attention immediately as quickly as possible. I only have sixty minutes. That's that's my goal coming out the gate. I don't know if I always hit but that's why I have more fun doing that. Then late night sets. Do you aspire to the fearlessness? That you're talking about in others or you. WanNa stay with the I'm nervous. I don't know if this is gonNA work. I think the audience has to decide that. I know that's a cliche answer but I want to push the limits of your thinking. What you think is right at people caught. I fearless cool. I wear that hat but I'm not gonNA sit here and call myself the world's most dangerous comedian. You don't know who don't come out my mouth just know that it was well thought out. You don't agree with it I'm not here to just say when everybody else is already thinking. I would rather bring up some stuff. You might not have thought about the routine that I've been listening to not of yours the most last couple months and this to over and over my kids. Oh my God Ronnie. Chang's Asian American or Asian could beatty destroys the Baruch meatless. Yeah Oh my God my office mate. I notice your home. That's why bring it up like that. That our murders to build this twenty five minutes that he didn't even put in. Ronnie's already sitting on halfway to his next our special. That's when we have slow news days at work that's Kinda me and Ronnie's thing will kinda rebound bids. What are you working on? All is a bit in his sale. Like this to put that in there. Oh you should make this point and just make each other better. Cool thing about standup is that. It's very collaborative if you if you will allow it to be if you will allow the Comedians to sprinkle in some of their perspective. It could make you better. You don't have to take all the vice We sit there man. We watch other comedian specials. We just watched We just watched Leslie Jones together in office. Wash my man Alonzo Boden so you know like. That's you know on a slow day and I want to hear this thing. We dashing fucking but how do you get better? Repetition REPETITION TRIM words once. I have the idea once. I have the joke and I feel okay. I've juiced all of the points I WANNA make. What can I start taking out? What's not getting laugh and not being married to the material and I think that's a mistake that I've made in the past is the joke was funny to me so I'm going to do it. The the occupation the job occupations. The job description to make them laugh. And if this joke is a five level laugh in between two. Joseh get an eight level laugh. Why why not just put to back to back? Especially if the five does nothing to fool with the ideology of the joke. You're not presenting new information or a new perspective. It's just an extra joke so just take it out you know. There's there's This I don't know there's just psychology to it. I mean to keep going back to the gas station bit but everyone understands being locked in getting buzzed into a gas station but the concept of late at night a drawer and having to put your money in a drawer and the guy walking away pointing to the stuff that you want that only resonates generally black audiences. So I know if I'm performing in Brooklyn Osa predominantly white audience. I dropped that part of the bit just because I don't feel like you're staring because I know y'all you gotta get it. 'cause y'all you haven't been to the hood you haven't been to the hood enough to even understand what. I'm expecting for the special. I'll do that for TV because that joke is for for us you know. That's that's another thing is about making sure that the materials speaks to the black experience if not for the whole hour if surely for part of it because that's part that's important to building on. That was the difference between a good stand up in a great standup I think. Laughter versus perspective. Think a great standup leaves you. Thinking differently I watch Chapelle and I think differently. I'll have opinions about his opinions. And it may reform my own opinions. You know cat. Williams is one that I think is extremely underrated when it comes to perspective and how this is what's happening in the world and this is what this means you know to me the great standups to me. There's two good jokes a joke. A joke will define to me a good joke. Answer one of two questions. Who are you as a person? How do you feel about a particular thing who are you? What are you feel? Those are the only two jokes to me that matter. Thanks so much to Roy for an epic interview and thanks to you for listening. And thanks to our Super Producers Brit Jerry Michael Smith Markets Harkless. Noel and Sam Montas. Join US over a Patriot dot com slash. Toray show for more from Roy and get an extra episode. Every Friday only for Patriots subscribers. Toray show gives you fuel to power your dreams because you can use your dreams like a rocket ship to blast you into a life. You never imagined you can make your dreams of reality and this show can help. 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Mad Max

Blank Check with Griffin & David

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Mad Max

"I don't know what to say to. They say people don't believe in podcasts anymore. Well Damn you and me Max. We're going to give them back their podcasts. Now here's what I want to ask you right away. How is Your Australian? It's fine I worked on it a lot of fun. Your accents fine question. You're GONNA ask me. I Clinton glass the unrated extended edition of Big Mama's Colin. Like father like son chaired the third film the further. You think the subtitle was the unrated edition. You how it's of course too hot for school. Unrated out of control is does. Let me tell you. It's six minutes longer. It's six a gentleman six minutes longer in their six rowdy minutes. They're rowdy okay. I have to assume its some play on the word dress. You're wrong really think. Think stupider pink size is is. What's the name of the movie? The bigger the other word Mama was. Can you do something with that here? We go mom rated. It's the mother Lode Edition. I think that's bad. I think all the other things I guessed are funny here. I Yeah I agree with you. I think with that one. They decided to not take the Let's go with the funniest option a lot of the time. It's like undressed and unrated is the. Here's the thing apparently mostly just adds a dance sequence claims its unrated but it doesn't actually add material. They had deleted scenes. That are like you can't add anything. Say because you didn't submit it first of all it's out of control like what's out of control is that they're editor was not bear. I Don I. Don't you know anyway? It's out of Control. This sequences vary self-indulgent. Shake Anyway Can you tell me the final domestic gross big Mama's like you know what actually let's do the box office game for big Mama's calling like father like son because we don't have one for madman we don't guys we were talking about Martin Lawrence his career? David Gotten to fights we yes over the quality of bad boys boys. I think bad boys two and three are both better but I think that boys one is good. I also think that Martin Lawrence is entering a new era and you dismiss yeah. I'm more just like no. I think he'll be in bad boys movies and otherwise will relax. It'd be hanging point was he hasn't done good work in a long time until the last twelve months. He's done her saying Combo game in bad boys beginning of something. Whereas I'm like total aberration in Brady Anderson. Hit All. This home runs this. Why don't think it's an aberration and these are going to be boiling hot takes by the time this episode comes out. We're recording this. On Martin Luther King Day bad boys for life is ripping up the box office right and his classic it overperform studio estimates and I saw it Friday night in Times Square and it played like fucking cheap trick Buddha Khan so he's using their fucking minds and I texted you and I said the only thing I can equate this to was going to see fast and percent furious opening weekend where this movie was like. Obviously this is coming off of when you see it. Not only that I mean deadline actually reported that he had a hand in the script and he was like. Let's do it fast and furious type. Everything about it is so fast and furious where it's like it is so in conversation. It was written by Dominic Toronto dominator Ebonics Rutta combat. Wgn But it. So much is in that vein. There's an credit stinger that is totally. Read it from like fast five. It's it's totally in that mode and it's the thing. I realize watching this in theaters which I felt washing amp sant was like Oh. I didn't realize how many people this movie is like a classic because they were researching awakens. You know an an percent is where I got into fast and furious and it was almost because I was like. Oh I didn't realize I cared about. These previous movies. Felt the same way watching bad boys for life very effective film. The point I was GonNa make is everyone was taken back by how good Martin Lawrence wasn't beach bum and I think part of that was. Oh this is a totally different gear right. You're used to like the manic motormouth really like sort of anxious. Martin Lawrence in the like the chilled out. Sort of like more peace with himself Martin Lawrence. That was the bit of the movie though I will say the bid being. It's like Weirdo. People kind of doing almost cameo character. You know what I mean that I view I go. He's greatness but maybe that's an aberration. Yeah but then. I see bad boys for life where they've sort of retrofitted the movie around the fact that Martin Lawrence isn't who Martin Lawrence wasn't the nineties and rather than what I was worried about where it's just GonNa be like fuck it's old Martin Lawrence not keeping up with his old game right instead. It's new Martin Lawrence in a similar vein each moment. I'm like I kind of like this. Seen it yet Martin I if you pep boys who he also is like that but I think bad boys. Two year like maybe. He's lost his fastball. I think you're missing. You're like no mearns playing golf now. Like that's my analogy. He's he can't pitch anymore. Great Great Way to start a new miniseries well and before we move on. I just think that if he doesn't WANNA MAYBE DO MOVIES. I'd be cool with bringing Martin back. The show show show is so good I mean it was unite the the gang especially the cast members sued for sexual harassment. We might have to leave that in the past is Martin Lawrence to do all right. Old Martin led the past die Lawrence. I mean Jean. Arnold is doing great. Yeah I mean I don't know anyway. Bring back is an audio drama. Anyway anyway new series. And then he's Laura displaying check for Fan David Griffin. I'm David Sims. And this is of course podcasts. Demography director so massive success early on their career given a series of blink checks so to speak to make whatever crazy passion products they want and sometimes those checks clear and sometimes they bounce of rum rum. This miniseries on the films of George Miller. Yes Mad pod fury cast. That's what we're going done you don't get to weigh in on this because we're keeping this one. A secret from you. Pause wasn't trying to remember that what I was trying to remember is I think George Miller has been given some sort of order by the Australian government is an AO. Which is the order of Australia? Being Knighted? Es which is like you know not full ninety but like you've done a pretty good joe. Okay Yeah Yeah So. He's got the similar governmental recognition of his artistic Australia kind of like like still like related to the United Kingdom. In some way the we had we had the same monarch the Queen is. What do you mean we actually walk in this? It is incredible how dumb you are and I think you're intelligent dairy. I think you're an incredibly intelligent both in terms of emotional intelligent. You always just fucking love it up for us like a slip and slide you lay it out because it is part of my fucking existed could have been worded that better for us. Australia has the same monarch the Queen Queen Elizabeth. Also the Queen of Australia. Obviously Australia once belonged to be thankfully mostly defunct British empire and is this prison was used as a prison but I mean of course before then it was a land on Concord. Women's own peoples. Who lived happily live lived their lives before we arrived. And we're like. I'm getting a good prison vibe from this old island. Meanwhile could put some prisoners here. Question what do you mean we? I grew up in England a British citizen. I should say I think the Dutch arrived in Australia. I I don't actually know all of its colonial history but anyway Commonwealth which is like the Group of nations that is governed by being on that. It's crazy how the UK just rolled in. We're like no. This isn't a country anymore. This is just a UK spinoff eats. You don't get to have your own country anymore. This is now just called. Uk Colin jail as if it was like CSI Miami. How terrible well house are like Australia a Tara Australia which means in Latin like southern land and it was just they were just like what should we call like? I Dunno southern islands southern land that find ever was just like it sounds good. Can You bring over ten thousand prisoners? People are so bad that we turn this into the planet from Alien Three. It's it's very strange to think about it. That it was just like well. It's so far away they won't be able to come back because it's so fucking far away so let's figure out what else we could do at this point and you start digging into that history to it gets so bad. It's terrible because then it was all this all these men and they needed something to do or they were going to revolt So then they started sending like as Concubine Lake inappropriate to say. But I guess that's essentially what it was One of my favorite movies of two thousand nineteen. The Nightingale is a film that is A really excellent film about sort of the the ghosts of colonization believe in Tasmania. I believe it is to think it is. I think sounds very demons. Land yes but it is a it is a very yeah parallel. Yeah yes okay. Now before we get into Mad Max just had this thought. Sure I've been getting down with my man Paul Hollywood on the rank. Okay you tried to bring Paul Hollywood. Another podcast I remember this and we were so deep another Ben. What Paul Hollywood Australia? I know you mentioned that. We're on home turf right now. We're at small small fine. Which is Ben's apartment? Of course. David has moved? He now lives in little nicer which is smaller than big night. A little nicer haven't officially dubbed obey. But that is the the on deck title. At least that's the sort of waiting for confirmation. See with my own eyes of course lives in small fine. I live in medium messy and that it's pretty well size. It's too messy for me to ever allow anyone to come over. I wonder if at some point the other question will ever get shelves you know. Hire some willing. Just handle it for you. You know that sort of I've been working towards that just a contract. Just get someone in for a day. I don't know yeah I know a Guy. I think I found a guy okay. It's just hard to talk to people. When there's not a Mike around and it's not about moving to structure it has a podcast and then I can get the talking genius idea Griffin podcast. You just have to accomplish like Lisek task episodes about half a guess on. I'm not sure how. How does one build shelves in the end of the episode to find a store? Find out if you're healthier not just go to. The doctors know my guess would be a doctor. They would make a house call. That's I do it from home. I guess and ask them. So how do you do this in your profession and they just fixed me okay. Okay so Hollywood watch the Harrelson. Bake off shore. They've got so many weird words and like where I'm literally just like. They just said a string of sounds that I don't know what they're saying. Wait a second. What do you mean they? Will you know like the people across the pond? If you will how I can't even relate I know why can't either I really flu-like I mean different? If I saw one I know immediately I know I I feel like I would sense or maybe I don't know what they smell. I don't know what's your point of about what you think though that. Australians be beat them with weird words. Oh sure this is. My favorite little Kangaroos are called. Joey's yes see. I guess from Alabama. I've known since I was little my brother's named spinoffs. That's what they call them because I rely kangaroo. Spa Another kangaroo Dan it they call that now like Jelly and it's in Australia. If nothing else fascinating country would love to visit a slightly shorter flight. And so he's been my hang-ups I long ASS flight. Congratulations where have you been I? I think you've told me this one's for tech press right. She's actually crazy exhausting. No show you were only there for like forty eight hours or whatever you were out of there pretty fast. Well you know I mean the Bummer is. I was like it was the end of the press tour. Yeah and I was like I think went from La to lund into Australia London to La to Australia so it was New York you know. La Is from where you can get to Australia. But I I was filming something else in Steve. Coogan hot air massively successful air. I believe it came out a year ago. No one is who who knows what was filming. That then went to London Dan went to La then did press their London press. Australian press if this is the last thing can I please? Can you make my return flight later and could give extra nights in a hotel so I actually can like enjoy Australia? Yeah and I was so wipe that rarely I wonder how little bit anyway and then I want my one of my best friends in Middle School moved to Australia right. You told me that and I went to visit him when I was in high school It's a very long flight very long long as you can do. Elliot Sydney exotic. Like I really do want to go. That's a place just dying Australia. A lot yeah. I think it's really cool David. You in college studied Australian Film. Not exclusively no no. No my friend know you remember basically correctly but it was New Zealand film. It was more knee half brand of cinema. I studied because I had a crush on someone who is taking it. Humble Brag Yeah. I've talked about it on the package. We had to believe her name because her name is funny right. If you WANNA do it again we can again. I Wasn't remembering it. We believe is now married and his changed her name but I want to make something very clear without giving any greater clues. We're not laughing at her name like studio. It's not a stupid name. It's just hilarious and very apropos. That I would have had a crush on someone named it is. It is the funniest name for David to have a crush on. Let's put it that way. Marian said the family because that gives it away and that's also really anyway so I took a New Zealand cinema class which was great. 'cause could come up in film. Trivia la you would get a lot of obscure I sort of obligation New Zealand based film right but that was we did not actually study any extra but of course they are related and they do have similar. John Sort of Western influence on both You know the kind of open prairies. Australia makes sense you know New Zealand also made allow road movies and stuff like that. Oh how to hobbits but no. We did not study Australian film which is a little more robust more of it. I feel like sure. Zealand made a lot of great movies for such a small country. Yes sites that Australia's produced a lot of a lot of great actors. Plenty of filmmakers especially in eighties nineties a lot of Australian filmmakers coming to Hollywood and making big careers including Phillip Noyce who was Somewhat of a Miller not protege Phillip Noyce worked with Peter. These are all guys working at the same time. We'll learn a little later using the same talent. You know you know like there. It's a it's a whole little universe who else am I am? I forgetting someone obvious. Those are the ones that immediately mediates. Because there's a lot of other like isn't PJ home you know. Muriel's wedding obviously. There's a big Australia New Zealand or PJ Hogan Note. Jane campion's New Zealand. She's Salen obviously. We started her in my New Zealand Cinema Class. And then of course you have listen. We can't forget Paul Hogan. Oh Bruce Beresford. That's another one he made like Break Miranda tender mercy driving Miss Daisy and movies like that. There's so many Gillian Armstrong. Yes the original. Not the original tiny little women So there's that those those types yes and then there's the odds boy tation typed the cars that ate Paris like the movies like that which George Miller comes out of but then you got this guy who kind of bridges. The two he is too. You have this guy this one sort of very anomalous filmmaker in many ways right right right. Who is a Greek immigrant first generation Australian shirt with three brothers I think maybe off them go to medical school. That might be He Yeah George Miller. Certainly he is. He has a twin brother. They both went to medical school. One of his younger brothers becomes his pretty permanent producing partner for the last fifteen years and the fourth brother also worked with him on the early films. Interesting interesting I believe I believe. At least one of his brothers also went to medical But his dad you're right was from Kathy area in Greece His name was Dmitri. Me Lotus and they anglicized that to Miller And then the mom was also Greek. Refugees from Anatolia disrupted in twenties by the population exchange. And they moved to Australia. Which was I. Think a country where it's like the great unknown. Let's go make a life right and the other side of the world now. There's one thing I couldn't figure out and I kept on looking for an anecdote about what the activation moment is but when he goes from being a medical student and a doctor to starting to make experimental films on the side. It sounds like he was making short films. I'll he was in medical so he made a short one minute short. That one student competition then. He went to a film workshop. Melbourne university when he starts where he needs Byron Kennedy. And and that's all while he's still in medical. Yeah he graduates. He completes his regiment residency. Nineteen seventy two and that year they found Kennedy Miller. That have you know. Production Company and so Y-. His first work was violence in cinema. Part One which. I desperately tried to find but is a twenty minute short film that starts out as a sort of like academic lecture run the nature of violence in films where he showing clips and talking about the way we process violence in the film as. Meta thing where the violence starts happening to. The professor faster and people were so freaked out by. They thought it was real. They thought it was a documentary. They thought it was filmed by right. And it had this very controversial reputation and played it a bunch of festivals but it gets distribution from an Australian Distribution Company. And they say and he didn't even realize distribution was thing. He didn't realize there was a pathway to be able to make films. You know I. It seems like a very Unattainable thing and they said you know if you had a feature we would distribute that too and the origin of Mad Max is in nineteen seventy one distribution company. When I'm forgetting the name of CEDA. George Miller Byron Kennedy. If you had a feature we would distribute this and eight nine years later they come up with Mad Max and for a movie that feel so many guys going. Let's just make a movie tomorrow? Not that if we could set it up overnight but mad max is so priority and so- spare that it feels like something that they rushed to the finish line. I watched we push back the release the release the recording this episode. Because I found in my mad Max box set. There is a two hour and forty minute do I have. This is the BLU ray box set. I have run with discs. Okay there's the high octane. That's Okay. So that's the one where there's A. Dvd isn't standard DEF FOR THE EXTRA Z. Me Its own desk. And it's called the madness of Max two hours and forty minutes just on the first movie which I watched very freshly. Why is it high octane? Can you watch it really fast? You can? That's an option cool. The actual answer is they released a box set after fury road were. They were like finally. They're all together. They left off a bunch of special features so then they released six months later. And we're like never mind here's the actual one and it still feels like it's not as good and comprehensive as it should be because there's tricky rights with to me. I forget there's something weird about it. The first one is the one that. Mgm has taken the other three are owned by Warner brothers in terms of distribution. Yeah they are but I think some it feels like they've never gotten the proper restorations. They deserve this. One is the Ross looking. Yes yeah ooh doors doorbell okay. 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So how did he get the name? Hollywood pick it believes he come from the Hollywood families seemly. It's his name. That's like you Paul. Hollywood and his dad is John. Holly I can't be and he's just from like Cheshire or something he's just like an English can't compete he resigned geolog- urgent like tracing your roots kind of show. I'm like did they address the fact that his last name is Hollywood. I mean but like what is the enemy of Hollywood like is it just a? Would've holly trees like it's complicated. Hollywood land the the real estate zing as marking was called Hollywood land but the neighborhood have been called Hollywood before really. Yeah Mr Hollywood over They built that lay. It was called no Polara when like which means cactus film. I think or something like that. you know before we fucking showed up and we're like great place to make movies. This movie town wait a second. I'm sorry what do you mean we? White people know ain't a spoiler guys How came up? Reminded me of bigalow in that. It was like an academic approach incinerator much. I was going to mention him is that he's very academic and much like bigalow. It's like he's a guy who starts out sort of deconstructing thing sure and then figures out how to make he's very academic but he makes violon rouge because he's like but that's how you get seen right. Here's the other part of it. The other part of it is he was in medical school. He was dealing with horrible acid over hoving. Kind of got the weird creepy. Yeah and not in the way where he was like desensitized to it. Like for Hoven where it's none of this matters. It's the opposite thing almost where he spent so much time looking at injuries and dealing with the repercussions of accidents. People had and so much bad Max comes out of his sort of perverse fascination seeing the aftermath of car accidents you know and also working with other people you know ambulance drivers people who are telling him accounts of what they found. Would states people were in having a stitch people up? I mean all these sorts of things he he was You know in addition to sort of his fascination with violence not in much the act of violence as the actual effect. The violence has on a human body. He also just sort of couldn't get over having to deal with the business end of car accidents. The idea that people are putting themselves in such dangerous situations all the time and he made this point. I think Byron Candy. This this documentaries actually really good little basic in terms of how it's constructed but it's so comprehensive taking through every step of it right. Yeah and every chapter heading has like room and then there's like graphics of like new new words popping driving onto the screen post-productions right. I get ya with burnt rubber underneath but they have all these really good audio recordings of Byron Candy. Talking because Byron. Kennedy tragically died Rexona. Believe EIGHTY-THREE Helicopter Crash. Don't get those things do not. But but this was your. What's your among jams. Then you've got to Julia Fox right. I can remember the characters name but I his Julie. I think you're right. Yes this was the point I was going to make and forget whether it's barren candidate George Miller who says this in the documentary but the thing that they were so obsessed with was it's crazy how much damage a car can cause right. How much damage. You can someone else coming to yourself. All of this. It happens on a pretty regular basis at this time in Australia was happening. A lot and people aren't afraid of them on a day-to-day basis. In the way they should be in the way that they are of other things is making. I mean this is speaking to Griffin Buddy Fuller Mad Max but the idea like you know you go like Oh helicopters. Obviously don't get in a helicopter. That's what happens but cars. Don't have that kind of stigma around them. Despite how high the stakes truly are even. If the odds aren't overwhelming it's it's still high stakes uncomfortably high probability So he's doing all of that he's doing on the way. The violence is depicted in films. And he's stewing on sort of the American cinema and that Australian film either seems to be really sort of trashy exploitation stuff. Yeah Gonzo staff or is is fairly sort of like a high Brownie art movies. It's kind of more fair. Walkabout come out. What a great movie. Seventy two a great book to a highly recommend reading the book. A ninety seventy one. I'm sorry that's Nicholas Roeg. That's another you know Yeah he's He's British. He's not Australian. That's a great film about Australia but not made from the Australian film industry but it is that is part of the earlier like on quote unquote Australian New Wave Right. Stork which has what's his pants. Bruce Spence that's one of those Oh you in the shower cap on one interesting trivia fact But but like what Peter. Does Mel Gibson becomes big doing like Lee and you're living dangerously. All those films are like sort of more. What comes out of Australia living dangerously. So good peter him come rare using the bracket last year. Tom I love so much I love him. He's a weird one. Sure he's really Paris Mr. I don't know what I'm doing so turn all of this right. They do this horror film. It gets interest. They're told they could get distribution if they made a feature he's the guy who's his. Co. Writer on this phone. I forget his name if you have it in front of you oh I miss home. Yeah G. causing right. Who was a buddy of his who was not a film student who is an American ex Pat Living in Australia but that was the guy who he liked talking about movies with. He was pretty much a drinking. Buddy I forget what he did for an occupation. It was totally outside of everything and he said I wanNa make a movie like. I'm just the guy who I like talking about movies with. And let's talk about what we like about movies. And so they sit down. Just have that talk much like every conversation that we've ever had right and they're just breaking down elements of what they like and they talk about the thing that I feel like at this point in time hadn't been Sort of identified that clearly years later. Spielberg would own this and say that this was his design but that he was trying to make movies that were only the good bits you know he always said that about race lost Ark that George. Lucas said what if you make a movie that was just the most exciting scenes in every other movie without the Boring Shit in between now of course when you want to raise the lost ark of plays like Fuck Satan Tango where you're like. This is so slow in rumor new right and you also feel like the destructive force of other movies taking the wrong direction right. I mean because that's the difference as someone like George Miller or Steven Spielberg even if they go. I'm only going to do the exciting parts have much storyteller integrity in their bones that they can't make something totally devoid they do. Although I will say like Mad Max you watch that and then you see Mad Max you see the road warrior dot number two you are like oh. I see where he's just like great. Let's pair even further down. Let's see communicate character very simply right. Like how economical. Can we get this? Yes but so he south this guy. They're kind of that. He's talking about the sort of like carring Zaidi. Yeah and the original pitch for the film was it was going to be a present day movie about a journalist. It almost sounds a little bit nightcrawlers. Ask about someone who's following the aftermath of car. Crashes to report on them that it is a little nightcrawlers so he goes about writing. He works on that for like six to nine months and is like fuck. This doesn't work it should be. It should be someone who is chasing after trying to prevent trying to like you know sort of control. This works on that for six to nine. Months is like it. Doesn't it feels weird? It's too over cranked. It feels to exaggerate it from me to do the things visually I wanted to do. And then he goes. I can't set at present day. So it's like a three step process with two hundred failed screenplays where it was like. I need to figure out with disguise. Relationship is to the auto destruction and then it was. You know what I need to make a world around this so I get the energy in my head. So he's drawing from the there have been a big oil crisis Australia nineteen seventy-three and like that had caused all these riots. These fights at gas stations and stuff like that. So they're like okay. It's like about peak oil right. The world running out of energy the world right. You know the apocalypse but for a movie that you could believe watching it like oh this was a by product of like rocky style. Him Locking himself in a room for three days and begging the whole script out that the first draft for them to raise the money. The film is entirely independently financed. They went to the Victorian Film Board at first and there was like they they as Miller says they were just making already movies. And this wasn't there kind of absolute not so what Miller candy start doing after years to get this up anywhere. Is they start going to a lot of their doctor buddies and they raise movie through independent capital. Four hundred thousand dollars. I believe they also did like emergency. Medical calls themselves and like Miller would be the doctor and candy would drive the car and they would raise independent funds. That way both still working as not not. Kennedy but can't even driving by the movie cost like four hundred Australian a four hundred thousand Australian dollars. Yeah and it was totally independent. By the time they get all the money. The Victorian film board comes back to them and offers to put up the money. And at that point. Said like we've gotten this and now we have no oversight realize. We've sort of circumvent the system. It took us a long time. Yeah but now. No one's going to give us any notes. We're not gonNA have anyone trying to censor us. We feel an enormous responsibility to make back the money that we've taken from people of course. Yeah that's the only impetus we wanna have something that's GonNa play and we want a thing that can cross over in a way that Australian films usually do not. His script is two hundred sixty pages. Long that's cruiser. What now what's nuts is very often. It's like Oh there was never like a shooting draft. We we talk about this when people go look. The first draft was five hundred pages. And you're like you vomited out five hundred. I drove it by all accounts that two hundred sixty page draft is essentially what they shot but is because it's not that they cut stuff out it is because he was so verbose describing right every single believe also when they were yeah because they had like story boarded lots of when they were raising the money they were like. Here's what's going to look like. They had a lot of free. They put a lot of effort into what it would look and that was the only way you could make this thing on one hand. It's naivete to be like no one wants to read this much. But on the other hand the thing is so sparsely primal and the tone and the energy is of what he's trying to do is so bizarre and it's so unprecedented this point that especially to friends of his who aren't in the industry who he's taking money from they were like you read this thing and there was clearly something in it like there was a thing that he was able to convey in the way he wrote the script that you knew no matter what happens in production. They can't beat this thing out of it you know. There's there's some heart here. There's some weird vital Oregon So yes they they have the money they go hire a casting director and go look. We don't have any money. Who are the people coming out of drama school? There was that that's how they found mel right and Bisley is pleased. Goose Bisley who's Mel Gibson's best friend and the urban legends. Always that Mel Gibson wasn't even an actor and he didn't even want to be in the movie way exactly which I think. It is true that he was not called in at first and he gave his Lee arrive and was drama student. He was and they they were looking for spunky young got and this and I think mel is probably canny enough that he knew but the the big part of the urban legend has he'd gotten in a bar fight the night before and looking like Shatner and immediately they were like this guy feels dangerous. Judy Davis apparently you know alert actress. Now yeah audition was passed over but Miller says that's not true. She was just hanging out with Mel Gibson and like she did not addition. Yeah see it does seem like one of those movies where everyone probably has a story. I definitely was in the running. You know whatever but it is mostly pulling from like Australia in theater and Australian close to a lot of the cast is from movie called Stone. An Oscillation biker movie that Miller doors the Quentin Tarantino adored currently keys burn and Rodger Ward and Vincent got like a lot of people who are villains in this were had been in that and similar was like well that's the way it's like a biker. Movie that's the VIBE I want so you're gonna be Great Hugh Keith. Barron was like a Shakespeare Company guy and I think continued to be like after this. Like he They showed this documentary. He did a production very popular impactful production of a streetcar named desire where he played Stanley Kowalski or they showed a photo. Sure sure. Yes you could fucking and his blanche was Jacki Weaver and they don't call it out but they just show a playbill and it's fucking toe cutter and smart from Animal Kingdom. Doing Streetcar Together which must have been. Have you seen any real bad movie? Australian mob movie okay. Oh Ben Ben Mendelsohn her. That's when Ben Mendelsohn. That was of course they turned it into everybody's favourite. Tnt show. That's fully on the air season five. How many seasons? I made three four. I want to say maybe a fourth is coming like three or four. Let's see four season. Four Seasons of the Animal Kingdom been renewed for but I rarely watch TNT but when basketball playoffs or anything you know watching T. basketball a whole right and anytime you watch that they're just like TNT's great lineup for example animal kingdom this year Denis leary's it I'm like no he's not it's made up you made it all up. It's all made up. It's one of those fucking things where like I don't know if this a solo case but when you're like for ten years I'm not Kidding Ellen. Barkin inch Scott speedmen of the stars of it. I think she on her gold globe at some point. Possible Ellen. Barkin is smirk is the is correct but I believe she's no longer on the show. I think that a lot of them are now dead. Yes because you know in the animal kingdom right Larry will come for you. It's it's Dennis leary playing the Guy Pearce character. Maybe I don't know does she. Did Not get a Golden Globe nomination. Sure yeah you were shooting too high. It's gotten to Saturn nuts out and one motion picture Senator Dodd. That's it those are so what I was. GonNa say is it's that stat which I don't know if it's still the case but that for like ten plus years. Usa was far and away the highest rated cable channel. Yeah because they burn notice all these shows that like fall into the antiquarian site that doesn't exist. You know anyone who's watching royal pains. Yeah now the thing about royal pays guys are royal pains political animals. The lowest rate is show history of. Us unfortunately didn't a stretch it out. Gone what's up with a yes okay? So H- Yuki Barnes comes out of Usc right you Qian's burns. Jesus Hugh Keys Burn. Burn of course Plato Cutter in this yes. And then we'll eventually show up as Morton Joe Morton Joe in Ma'am x Ray road but was thought of as this sort of like Brando. Ask Very imposing. Right he's Husky. He's got a face he's unconventional. He's very behavioral. He's very handy. I mean so much of the Shit. He doesn't movie is improvised physically or energy. Wise the things which is yeah. Another thing they talk about is that He was very big into the like with the biker. Boyz with gang being like we got like really be again. We gotta be like united sure. Sure sure so. This is a crazy thing they would do. Which in retrospect maybe inspire. Jared LETO IN THE WRONG WAY. Right Right They would cut their thumbs and then write letters for the other cast members with their own blood. Okay that's very jared Lido in suicide. Yeah that's crazy so they'd like broke into like Mel Gibson's hotel room and like is that where Mel Gibson learned to be a prankster. Maybe because until he was an anti Semite famous drunk anti-semite wife Harasser famous goofy like Mel Gibson. Put A CIGAR IS ASKING. Take a picture of it or what? It was just like Oh Great. You know just like the nineties can we get in the. He's notorious prankster. Any off fees. But that's the crazy thing. Is You watch this documentary. And they're all talking about like your intense. We slept together cutting ourselves and doing all this stuff and was like yeah they were. They had a vibe going on and then they cut to other people and they were like a mel was terrified. He would come to us. Complain all the time believing like he did not sanction their buffoonery. And he's like they left me notes and stuff. They were like really in character and they were like Melwood call us. He was worried they were going to attack him on sets. You want protection the idea that these guys were freaking Mel Gibson out. This is when Mel Gibson's just a level of prankster. You also wonder if he's like. Oh is this supposed to behave on movie? So the of Max. Let's get into. Yeah because we've been doing now done. I mean they shot guerrilla style. Or whatever right. There's all that legend where they were like. What IF THREE MONTHS SHOOT. Which is pretty fucking long for a movie like this. Although I believe it was partly because What's her name got injured though? The original wife got injured so they delayed them two weeks. Get well so this. This is the time of that for a movie. That is all insane stunts. The biggest entry. That happened happened two days before filming started. Which was their stunt supervisor. Who was also going to be there. Lead stunt man and the woman they had hired to be. Madame wants his wife. You know gotten a motorcycle. Crash leaving like pre production Because that's another thing they talk about is like they were so like strapped and so much of the budget went to the vehicles for this movie that all the motorcycles and the muscle cars were also being used as like transport like they were like Byron. Kennedy was like dropping off crew members every night in the V. Eight interceptor. That's so so. The stunt guy gives the lead actress a ride home on a motorcycle. And there's like a freak accident and they spin out and they go into the office and George Miller is a doctor immediately able to analyze them. And he's like your leg is broken in like six places right. This is gonNA take like three four months to fully recover. You're not be able to walk. And the other guy was wearing glasses. And when he crashed they went into his face and his nose was lacerated. Like all this fucking Shit. He had internal bleeding So they freak out They hire a new guy to be temporary. Stunt Guy They hire a new actress. Samuel he read the screenplay and also the scheduling sure around now all that anyway The first day shooting the first piece with the car in this new stunt driver They get the shot. It's not great and then when he asked him to reset the guy backs off dent the car and George Miller just goes like. I can't do that the he goes. I'm in over my head. I clearly can't handle this. I'm so freaked out by the fact that the injury happened before we started filming. I shouldn't be making this movie so they reach out to the guy whose name I forget who direct BMX bandits. I've seen that movie quit. This point is like an Australian Michael Kim and yes Bmx bandits was directed by no no but he hadn't made it yet because BMX vendors. Came out for this guy. Brian Trencher D- Smith. Yes and George Miller and Kennedy met also also made Leprechaun three. Let's put some respect on plus some respect Hossain Church molars like A. I can't fucking do this. Let's hire him. He's an old pro doing like Australian. Tv Miller had never been on a proper film set before and this guy who's like an annoy to handle that he's done action stunt stuff you know. There are a lot of like cop shows in Australia. Which is mostly where they're pulling their crew from an. They'll feel comfortable with this guy allstate producer. I can't do this. And all the biker actors come to him and they're like we're not doing the yeah and so out of canceled a couple of days but George Miller goes like you know what you're right. I have to do this and he comes back does it. The biggest entry still to date on any of the movies happens in pre production of the first one which is pretty not. Do for you though. How's he doing? We checked in on him doing great. Okay he's doing great he's Great. Can Guy Terrific Guy Cheeto? Is She doing? Okay Cheeto Chitose. She's one of the fucking in which one inferior really. Yeah so I read the names of the ladies inferior to that of right now. Cheeto capable cheeto toast. 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So the end was if you showed up with a pizza like dish. Orange was my question like are you mugging pizza. Delivery guys delays route were violent crimes during the beginning of a home alone. Yeah so you guys. One of those dumb bars. We could grab holiday. My question was it's hard to come by vodka when you're in high school. I understand that my question was. Is there an additional gift are they using employed? Think about Ben is a teenager. Do you think there was gripped upon gift or no? No the VIBE is but then you're like Yogi. Bear style stealing liquor from window sills because then we will have to go and break breaking into right. You knew that that would elevate your crime so you would you take it while ours. It's an outside outdoor. Well this is what I was making fun of her so concerned with whether they were getting pizza porch bar. It's like insane comparison anyway. Look what's important. Is Max Rocket Danske couple? More things WANNA say here. Okay or maybe maybe we can do it as we talk about. What else to say. No I just think a big part of it is that they had a long pre production that there was so much thought put into it that he hires all these actors and really work for a while. I mean not just the biker guys like spending time together but the COPS spending time together and establishing for an accurate and George. Miller is a very collaborative filmmaker. They talk a lot about that like he. And Kennedy were like complete partners right and that Kennedy could have just as easily been the director and George Miller could have just as easily been the producer. It was kind of arbitrary that they landed that way and the first two films are such thorough collaborations between the two of them and it really fucks up his career when not his career folks him up emotionally mentally when. Kennedy. Dis No you should talk about. But we'll get to that that's Thunderdome is. Is The him grieving movie? But that he you know the the guys there's the one guy in the in the biker gang who like only animal noises right yeah and he had like Vinci's credited as Ben Hasley here and then plays in this film. Nutty professor style with the gang is just Ben. Six Times super influence owners but that that character had like three or four lines in the script and the actor. When George Miller was like how did I just do noise? He was like I could say three or four things and be the guy who doesn't say much or the animal noise guy and George Miller. Yeah absolutely great nieces. Create NICO SYSTEM. Have people around him and and he talks a lot about that. So much of even the weird design elements of this one because this moisture will take place in like half yes. I'll design elements would actor showing up on the day and being like I was in like my shed and found this fencing helmet right. Can I throw this on the set? Or where this in this scene? 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Yes because one thing I like about especially if you're watching this having seen another madman which I feel like most people probably do and you and I always watched it after seeing later. Mad Max at one hundred percent I definitely seen the road warrior and yeah I think I can't remember if I saw this. I think I saw it in high school for a software but it is weird to watch. This isn't set in just like the desert like just these movies in your history class. The teacher is three of your goal. But just like to think like this is still sent a place where there's like you can like go get ice cream and race store right like they're still cops and their civilization and they'll still do laundry right. It's just that the crime is out of control like that's sort of what sort of near future. I remember the first time I saw it and not just that I had seen road warrior before it but also that I had seen the things influenced by Max. You heard the way people talk about mad. Max and how influential it was in the post apocalyptic genre that. I watched it for the first time going like so. What is the Halfway Point Society Collapses? Exactly you're like is this about society. Classing is like no. It's a simpler story right about a cop trying to take someone down. Yeah you know take a gang down right and it's just in a world where it's kind of like yeah shits fucked up so when I first saw it I remember being not underwhelmed by by going like. Oh but this isn't the real shed a sure I mean it's raw movie and I watched it the times and I watch even twice in the last couple of days because I watched it once with commentary once without and I was really trying to apply to it. This like star wars thing of try to just pretend that the other ones don't exist your view this just as its own movie not even like fucking smits bit but as a light one hundred percent. Individual movie would probably have a better reputation if he hadn't made three incredible sequels afterwards. Yeah if it's got a good reputation. Oh totally but I'm saying if this was his dad alive p rather lane race being his evil dead wall his skills on display. I mean we evil dead great. Yes yes and we'll talk more evil dead comparisons in later episodes as we compare it to the evil dead sequels. And it's a pretty clear. The most insanely clear. Yes but this move right. You start out with like in the near future. Yes after the title years from now. It's striking just like the black on white. The music is booming. Mad Max and like chrome letters. He said. The title was literally. I just want something. That sounds cool is alliterative and took a your eight year like that. Must be the coolest movie Mad. Max Mad Max. I loved it. Yeah I think it was mad was the first word I ever said but you still Max is the second they thought you were. GonNa say Mama and then you just had but you have that like you know a few years in the future and then you have the halls of justice where the letters are falling off right and you see a street sign that says anarchy right spell the beginning of it is. You're like yeah it's so cool wall and then you see the sign amount of fatalities that have you have four pieces of just drooled sentiments funny. Is this anarchy. It's like A. N. A. R. C. Hi but you have like four things in the first five seconds that visually do so much table setting for like this is just sort of like the temperature of this place right and then there is the head cop who is shirtless wearing a scarf. And then you're like okay. This is the future. We're in a different time. We perfect a fashion. We've perfected passionate and one dresses beginning this movie. It's very cool. It's a car. Chase is one of their ideas as they said his colorado already forgetting again Join James because he said well. What if the movie started with a Dana Shirt right right? You've got knightrider. Cool guy you open with the kind of thing that movie spend the first thirty minutes building up to by Vincent Gil Movie Stone Night Writers having a all. He's got a lady in the car with him. Yes you also have the The man spying with the sniper goggles and people having sex it's very lurid various. Boy Yes right. So you've got those guys shitty cops. Yeah the new top the SHITTY COP. What are their names? I don't remember any of their names. They all have good. Names have good. It's hard differentiate between them. I I was. I just watched the other night The watch call it the Hollywood reporter like director's roundtable thing. The the newest one Philipson all those people Greta Gerwig Martin Scorsese and of course litigated. The score says the cinema thing whatever and then they like after everyone's fighting about like what about you? Greta like what defines cinema and she was like Jesus fucking Christ like why. Are you throwing this on me? And then in her defensiveness she can't with. I thought such an eloquent answer which was like an at first. She's making a joke like this sort of riffing on the old pornography thing when you see it right right. Isn't it Lulu on my panel? And she's the one talks to Martin kills it but Gerwig is like look. I've been lucky enough that I've been on film festival juries and a certain way that's the best way to watch a movie because you're GonNa see all this stuff but you're watching. It devoid of context going to these screenings. And you don't know where they're coming from what they are. Whatever and the thing. I've learned through doing that. And especially when you're watching films from different countries with actors you don't recognize is not only do it when you see it but you almost always can tell within the first fifteen seconds if you're watching someone who is a filmmaker it's one hundred percent true because he's like it doesn't always mean it's going to be a great film. The movie could fall off. But you can tell when someone has an actual understanding of the medium and a thing to say I mean as I have been on. I assume guard it's been on like bannister like a very high Philippoussis. Yeah I mean Greta. We go but like I have done. Gothics juries many times and other where you're handed a pile of screeners of true indie movies movies. That are not maybe some of them will never eerily right and it is totally that you watch one senior. Mostly you're like okay and then once in a while you put in something and you're like Holy Shit like this movie. Yeah like my experience with film score a short film festivals or things like that you can just always tell within like a couple of shots whether or not the thing is great if someone is kind of has the bones of a filmmaker and this is one of those movies where like you watch it and in the first like five minutes. You're like this is a filmmaker. This is someone who knows how to put a movie together. You know there is something just about the the elegance and the clarity of how it structure were even though you have eight million questions about something and these are in the intricacies of their relationships with each other on such primal level. And it's a word I feel like I'm GonNa keep on using Miller especially with these mad max movies but in such a primal level the elegance of how this opening chase is structured which is like essentially thirteen minutes long and You don't really get a clear shot of Mel Gibson until it's introducing and very sexily where it's sort of like little glimpses of this. I mean his his level of control and understand they have. That's so smart right like here's our hero but we're not. GonNa we're not GonNa let you see but also this is a movie where there's not gonna be a ton of characters. Asians so we need to sell to you. This guy's the important ones to follow in this. Because he's not Luke skywalker. He's not the Chosen One. But you've got knightrider WHO's vibe is. He wants to drive his car very fast and go like I write about our the whole time and run people down. That's his vibe right. He's a can I say go ahead. He's a messy bitchy list for the past. And so you have these new happy's cops part of the M. f. p. withdraw going after him one of them who. I feel like he thinks he's a mad maxine and one who's a Newbie. Yeah and they're doing a job and their settlement. Max Chilin not doing anything right and when Max finally enters that's when nightrider just starts to lose it because he's just like fuck. Oh Shit Oh shit like Max on his tail right so he has magic to him and mad. Max Magic Backs Mad Mike. There is this energy to of like. There's something a little bit crazy about mad. Max that is the same thing that is just a neatly a little bit crazy about Mel Gibson even in this which is arguably his most normal performance is most memorable performance as Max for sure but also I think as he becomes more of a movie star even when he's playing a normal charming guy. He always coasted on a certain livewire manic energy. He did this movie. He hasn't totally harnessed that yet. He's he's a lot more subdued but there is this weird caged animal thing in Mel Gibson's is that is like constantly there and the idea that like this guy scares the knight rider. Because this guy's crazy enough to go as fast and to fucking ride him bumper to bumper. But it's like it's the cops and robbers thing but it like this is. I feel like a thing that seems like it's there's a system in which cops know the reputations of these robbers and vice versa. They end that. Max has this respect and there's a fear amongst the community was that you said you feel like it's David Love. Why don't you ask them if lost? Yeah love it cool. Hey I wasn't sure I'm glad you're out and I was stressed out and total for a minute and we weren't going to be doing a thorough job on this episode of we didn't get confirmation right. Did have enough rules for you and this one or do you feel like the rules ramp up in two and three and then you're like this has more rule you would say more so say this one or this person talks to a boss. Who's like? Hey Max we got you a new shirtless boss. He I mean there's some enter he can. I say an absolute unit. You came on screen. I was like that is that term exists for he. Looks like a fucking nineteen? Ten's like strong male characters line but he does have this doctor robotic so. He's in the documentary. I'm excited to see Jim. Carrey as doctor about nick but I do wish they had cast a thick king which is sort of like his computer. Look yes yes. 'cause he's a thinking he's got long any legs but he's got to think you'll remember when Jim Carey wasn't supposed to play curly in the three stooges and he spent like a year beefing up and everyone's like he's just not gonna get round enough size. It's it's no inherent can't make yourself look like that right. I agree with you. Want you want an egg man but This this actor whose name I'm forgetting plays the chief who is he is the character Rodger Ward. Yes so George Miller like any actress he was getting especially the ones who had been on TV. And we're recognizable within the Australian media. You know landscape. He was like if I'm if I'm I want to. Cast a lot of actors were unknown. Haven't been on camera before but people have been working. I want to change their look because I don't want anyone to go like. Oh that's the COP from this. That's the doctor from this show. So he was giving people these assignments of like. We're GONNA die this. We're GONNA Shave this whatever to this guy. He says we're GonNa Shave your head. Have you grow a moustache? And he interview was like look at that time. No-one shaved their had the career suicide. Even if you were going bald you wear to pay. It was y'all Brenner. It was telly Savalas. And that was it. And they they're ninety percent of their image was the shaved head and he was like George was super trepidation as asking me this. He was like clearly like afraid of the boundaries of it. And what he didn't know is I had spent years wanting to shave my to do it do and he was like an at that moment. George gave me permission and in the interview that is filmed probably sometime in the late nineties. Early two thousands. The Guy Looks exactly the same as he does in this movie. A thousand percent ball other than a long mustache and it's like George Miller unlocked the image. That this guy had in his head he was afraid to be and has spent the last forty years looking like that every day of his life looking rules. It's a great beautiful store gas. That fucking is great anyway. Max Chases down the night right and they used the first flash of that amazing static shot of the eyes bulging. But it's so quick so quick but it's where you're like wait. This isn't just a good filmmaker. Is this guy a genius? Weird is this like the inklings of genius such as the car chases you are. Just I cannot believe. They pulled that off no money and like basically just like closing on a road for fifteen minutes and all that shit they talk about two things one. Because the Victorian government eventually came back around to them offer them financing. They didn't get that. But the thing that Brian Kennedy were kind of in on it right there. Real estate caught a letter. Right Right Right. That said that the film had been approved by close road for you so they call it the get out of jail free card and there's a scene in the movie where grew says that to someone he gives them a get out jail free card which was like an inside joke because Byron Kennedy. Had this one document that he would show to anyone anytime they got a question. It was like a guy named like detective stubs or something gave him this thing and a lot of people are like. In retrospect. I don't know that that was real. We never met that it might have been forged vanities dead. We don't know but they use this one document to get everything but the other thing is all the crew was like this guy's an idiot. He doesn't know what he's doing. He's so inexperienced with George Miller because he would do crazy setup and just get a two second shot and cut and move on. That wasn't worth it. That was insane right. You'RE NOT GONNA be able to use that. You can't cut together. That's you're going to cross the line here. That peace won't work with this piece and it was this thing that he just had it on his head in this opening chase the moment where the kid runs out into the middle of the street. Yes which is incredible and this incredibly. It has awesome foreshadowing. What's going to happen? But you watch it. And you're like Oh faulk and it feels like. Is this going to be some toxic? Avenger Shit where you have to watch the most gruesome thing ever. 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Did you see a dog with like a black sort of spot? He was like I like that. Look the character toe cutter shaved his eyebrows because he saw a real biker gang guy Who looked like that and just showed up and was like? I don't have an eyebrow now in terrify he's genuinely terrified so good because he's got so much personality but also he not like he he. Is this like Shakespearean trained actor. Who is speaking with this like Gravitas? And this diction like he's not trying to be like scuzzy Shakespearian. That's what's beautiful. Yes but okay. So why prefers the Lord humongous one hundred percent? There is though this whole sort of like like late sixties acid and sorta like Colt kind of vibe to the biker gang as well and I think it really sells how dangerous these guys are because it's not even that they're menacing and tough. 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But you wanted to be able to look someone in the eye and convince them that you were going to fight them and seem like you had what it took to so much of their. They're not even doing car stuff. They're being scary. It's all so beautiful that there's no like it's not like there's a heist it's not like. There's a specific their own. Ruined fucking rascal. But the way more than rascal school but I also love George. They are too. It's like what size just hanging out and like just like it. Just being like Sir cast menacing actor thing where you have like a bunch of actors who all WanNa pop scene people are doing shit like only burn my forearm. Like even if you're in a seem by yourself you're like I gotta show that I'm just as crazy as the other got. I'll be the animal guy. Everyone's doing like a lot of bits. Oh but they're all great and then you've got johnny boy. Yes his protege. Yeah WHO's no? He's into it but he's not quite he doesn't quite have the sort of mean streak but movies have this weird sort of like mentorship thing. There's always a big guy in a little guy right right. You know. There's some sort of odd like is it sexual is a paternal like what is it fury road so good album with. Mad Max now. Is that even though the other movies are all good like anytime. I watch them. I do love I know and it. It is bizarre. How successfully fury road works as I spent thirty years. And I've done all the research and now I know how to make a perfect Mad Max movie like all these homes around value as I said. Watch this again. Not One hundred percents moving. You're like toe cutter. Had A truck. That was so bad deals were so I can't wait to watch your look. I'm edging like this whole many almost watch it a couple of weeks ago as you have been waiting because I'm like I wanna I wanNA watch an order up to this. It would just be really fun. I'm sure I can own this thing. Now right there must be some toy of it. The giggle horse. Get the real car though. Yeah Real Merchant car. Yeah yeah no I know. The toys are complicated. We'll get into that. It's cool to race cars in the desert. Yeah you're saying you WANNA live in the wasteland Australian. No no I've never been to the desert you never into like the Arizona somewhere like no but I'm gonNA try now and race cars. Yeah has the president been the burning man? Hippyish yelling hippies. Hippies and other than the hippie contingency feels very up your drugs in new effigy. I'm there g myself a fan of effigies so they man this is. This is the thing that is weird us about Mad Max. Well that is actually plays the saxophone you. I mean that's great wrestler. Rest Johnny and take him to court and gets off on a technicality. That's the thing where you're like in the movie. They're like oh the world's going to ship your mother's court there but that's just getting away with something this is also that makes to you would just run them over point. That's the point. I think if you're seeing this film in nineteen seventy nine year like. I can't believe a movie. Is this crazy right. If you're watching this movie in two thousand twenty year like they have walls. This is winging their doors right. House looks heated. But yes what is this? Just take a while right. She comes in the fifteen member. It's fifteen twenty memory. You have the straight action sequence. And then there's like a fade to him in his home their sex music playing. He's hanging out with his baby. It's Nice domesticity and then an amazing reverse shot reveal of his wife. Is the one plant snacks right right right right? I mean credible bit. Because you're cutting between that. And then he goes back to cop land. We made you a cool. 'cause keeping companies or I you know it's where you meet the interceptor and when they're in that pursuit special when they're in that garage and it just feels like Oh my God. How can they afford to have garage? This big with this many cars in it. It's truly a thing where they would shoot one angle and then they would move all the cars around to the other side and shoot the other angle so no matter what angle there at. It looks like they're three cars in the background. Which makes you feel like they're twenty cars. But they're actually only three shit like that's incredible barricade. He's also the one who is doing a lot of driving in this movie. He was a big motor head. He was the guy who really understood. The language of the vehicles. Short gives them a lot of credit in particular for the sound that he was sort of a genius. Sound a big thing. That he said is like each of these motors has to have a different register. A DIFFERENT PITCH. So the each sonically their own characters that unconsciously you start to recognize the vehicles in that kind of way he's like picking the cars designing cars and driving a lot of them on camera and also picking up lunch in the Vita intercept. They're right right which they in all the making stuff always call the black on black shirt which is Kinda cool cool. Yeah so johnny gets off. Yes well he sabotages goose's bike and goose crashes but survives. Yeah even though. He's like flipped off his fucking bike which the to heckle jekyll. Cops at the beginning. In failing to catch the knight rider the One guy ends up those neck and then he's got a sandbox things but it was another jerk. Miller thing I want everyone to have all these little injury right. Yeah but that's when they burn up. Goose Yeah I mean we're zooming but yeah we're not. What are we miss? The forty five minute mark. Yeah Yeah we're GONNA have. We talked about you know cutter. That's what I mean. He seems like he's got charisma. Is Everyone's making out like he's got the most on will in contrary budget movie he can say jokes like this guy's a cut up. Here's the other problem. Didn't know that the other actor was going to be Mel Gibson. Which will you will no. No He's great about well. I was GonNa say say what you will about. His acting as personal life is fantastic. But no but it is like it is so insane to just think that this movie which you're so used to seeing these types of movies with lead actors who either never become anything or become just sort of coal figures like Jeffrey combs or like Bruce Campbell. You WORKED OUT ADVERSARIES TO WATCH THIS MOVIE. Which is so scrapping gorilla and be like and then produced. This dude who became the biggest point was the biggest. The biggest star in Hollywood star became the highest paid star in Hollywood. Had like a twenty five year career. One all the Oscars like everything. It's just a they all talk about like the cast him. He was good in auditions. He had a real reputation from drama school and busy. We're best friends. It felt like those were the two guys who were GONNA make it. But it wasn't until that they started filming. The movie and Mel Gibson stepped in front of camera and everyone looked behind the lens and they were like. Oh Fox got popped out weird x-factor thing were certain people just fucking work on a movie screen. Yeah where they like looked at him and were like this guy's really handsome and then they looked at him like through the viewfinder leather motorcycle. Jackets just like boom which all of them are vinyl budgetary reasons. They really it was so gross. Ringing out your stuff. And they're like changing on the side of the road you know like I mean they're like driving vehicles in the on camera vehicles too weird desolate locations and then everyone's like setting up the actors or like grabbing sandbags and the crew was so small. Everyone in this movie had like four. Titles who is part of the crew and every actor ended up doing like two crew jobs on top of it and he was like we were helping light like everything so they burn glucose worth it. A BURN GOOSE UP BURNHAM. Yeah burn up. Its schools which it is crazy. There are two different canonical league like humongous action films in which the hero loses a best friend named goose. And that's what like right there. He's very young because that's when the lesson is never make a best friend. Who's never call anyone goose stupid name? Yeah especially so. Max Retires and he goes to live with his wife and just chill out. You can't deal with it. And that's when his get smashed up by the Toe Cutter Guy. It's just funny that there are two revenge joints like you don't really need Max's family to die like killing goose's I would be like. Yeah I get it now. He has to go kill token. I don't really need the second thing. I don't mind it to be clear. I think the loss of humanity. It makes the goose thing almost feels approvals for. You're like okay. Goose had to go to the play is even if la- obviously losing the wife and child is more catastrophic. Right would be anywhere to go to overcome. I think having those two things happen. As two separate instances so close together is what drives him into Madness Jersey. Man I talk in child died he would probably go into deep depression and seek some sort of revenge but the level of just like. I don't give a fuck that he hits by the end of the movie only be reached if like your life becomes that like like cosmetically absurdly tragic but you also the initial conflict in the movie is. He's like should I quit being a cop? Yes and goose dies and he does. Yeah but then right you know then. Obviously it's like this world make sense. I don't have anything to live for anymore. Yeah Toe cutter talk about like I have now reached the end of the fucking Ok Tedi. Associated Summary is not long. It's not a potty movie I feel like re- watching it I was almost like this thing of being like. I don't feel like Max was as directly responsible for the death that their friend. Where like what a thing that I kept getting nightrider Knight Rider. Yes pretty responsible chases him down. I look great. Writer made a few mistakes long. Perfect guy like Knight Rider. I think he's cool. I like Jill just think I don't think tokens getting being well Knight Rider. He was he was a bit of a hot. You know I mean like I think I understand why he doesn't like going after I just so hard and they're not going after those two other dopey cops but they those guys are. They're small potato. Just say one thing about Knight Rider. It's been said that he enjoys women as much as I do. Some of their even on the younger side no question about it night rider and choices social life. Get close to retire in that one. I feel. It's definitely on deck. That's the next one after. Put that one on the retirement express. Yeah Oh you know what some great vulture work crave ultra work. Who is a Jesse? David Fong what does this Hunter Harrison good degree Volterra Alison Willmore new. Hire Jerry Saltz. What are we talking? I guess he's more mainly magazine. Vultures are fucked up. Yeah it's a weird thing. Yeah like that sucks that exists. I guess scary there. They are doing an important garbage men right there to clean up the sort of stuff. We don't WANNA deal. They look so that's the thing they look mass thing. They looked mess up and they're kind of like funeral of seagulls where they just look around for garbage and they eat it idea that they like. We'll see something and be like. Oh what's this and start circling around? Your behaviors are scary. Can I also say and I don't know if this is specious of me I think they are the most neatly scary looking quite clear there. Probably top ten visuals. Their top there is there is there must be other scary animals. But I'm like you know you're the Anglerfish your your classic scary animals are asking stick books. Freak me out really. I mean you mean like a stick like a little cute stick guy and he looks like a stone like the branch and it's a bug like slim from a bug's life play by David. Hyde Pierce SORTA got sprinkle FOB care. There's also stick. Stick insect in in doolittle. Here is like a spy character. Talk I got to do a little now. Check do little showtimes volkers desks were designed involved over the years to eat dead or soon-to-be things get things that's fucked. Grewal's over what else? What else can we say about this moment? So hard to talk about it because surely win toe cutter gets run over by the truck like well. It looks so fucking good and that is the best thing like it. Looks like this. Shit's real like it's like they're putting rockets in the back of cars. They're like driving everything at like one hundred and forty kilometers you know. And they're just crashing things. Nothing looks better. I'm just watching clip. Yeah I think it looks better than one mel Gibson behind a wheel leather gloves on just that. Yeah that that's just sort of yeah Just that close any close up that I'd always looks good. Yeah it always looks good wide open. Australian landscape US live which this film is like all animals magic thing. It was the first animal film ever made in Australia. I believe it is the only Australian film ever shot on the todd. Ao Formats and the secret is The getaway is that what's called the paw the peckinpah movie. Sam Peckinpah was shot in Australia. He had shot that with those lenses and just left them. Sure to them like fucking crush. Yeah I mean it was like they had like outdated lenses that they were like Jerry rigging to these cameras That could barely fit on. But but that was the sense of this is all about like a road a straight line that can curve depending on where we place the camera and just like barren landscape as far as the I can see everywhere around it. Yeah Is as in fury road and Max to in like he dies before the final Joe is actually Jo John. Sorry Johnny the boys the Final Guy And that's when his he's done when it's not just that he's GonNa Kill Jonny the boy but that he's going to psychologically torture him he does this autry. It's crazy to the end of the fucking movie though it's a pretty good. He drags guy by a handcuff chain them to a car and he's like you have five minutes saw through your leg set the whole long. It's GonNa take for the fire to off. This is how long it would take you to off through the chain of the handcuff. Which and this is how long it will take you through your life right walks away which you just of movie need that satisfying explosion the explosion explosives and the ending is also nothing will ever be the same. Yes like. That's what really it's just next to is just being like. I'm glad I got all my system. And he's he's a therapy. Jim Watching this like when it comes out and then they announced they're making Max two and you're like but what does this guy do next. Yeah you can't make a movie where the guy has already. Yeah like some of the things. Brian May's score very cool. Yes weird just kinda stood score. Brian May from Queen gainfully played by. I don't even know who played him. And I don't WanNa make a terrible joke Bobo rap and well. Here's or was was. It did Green Book drama and it for comedy. What David you are one hundred percents. He's right. Isn't it crazy? Rhapsody won best drama. Was the double whammy of those. Were the two best films of the year the Golden Globes but to they were weirdly like flopped. In that way. It's that crazy thing of like it. It's crazy they didn't put a star is born in musical. Put it in drum. It's crazy. Judy didn't run as a musical. I actually Jodi Jodi Jodi. The purposely not watching green book for the day that we decided to open the book. Well my friend by the time this episode comes out we will be deep in. March madness will know albeit a very almost over so fairly takes taped versus Peter. Yeah the two kings it could happen. I mean I'll say this. We used to talk about like I used to make the pitch for you of the Farrelly brothers and you would go. I don't WanNa do that. Yeah the Book Changed. Every green book such brothers before it was ended at like hall pass or like he didn't want to now. It ends at best picture winner. Green Book there's so much more great work to come out to by Peter. I mean I don't even think we should like she's this movie coming out called. Blue Book about buying a car. I don't know I feel redbook to Mao bio pic. What have you with books? But it's like an Eskimo or like a native American person from Alaska this time. He's connecting with an Italian American ounces next thing and it's definitely announced something but I don't know if he might have been circling something though I can't remember if he was actually confirmed I interviewed him. He's Nice Guy. Why can't remember? Oh well you know and I guess I know there was a third gang and I wasn't really supposed to talk about it but I think enough time has gone on. I was in a fight club. You really shouldn't talk about supposed to talk about twice a cut that out. Okay and actually keep it in. Triple get to the box office game with big. Mama's we're GONNA do that. I'm just trying to see if there's any other of course there was the famously weird American version where they dubbed over the dialogue right. No one likes George Miller says never seen it tanked in the US. They dubbed over like oil. Like hey you right emily. I Love Ronald Reagan. Were saying But row Village roadshow Sold it to Warner Brothers Where they had one person distribution really really bullish on it botched in the US but sold it really hard and Japan and it blew up there. And that's what sort of started the run of it being this like global crossover sensation because once Japan did well and the posters are also evocative for him in the weird cop leather with a helmet on traffic car. And they would like Taylor new piece of graphic design for each country and it's sort of just did well everywhere all non-english-speaking territories because in all English territories. They released this horrible fucking DUB. That is horrendous. I saw a clip of it. It's so fucking bad. I'm sure yeah also super weird to dub the English language yes. It is super weird and became problem movies of all time. The weirdest thing is that at the Australian Film Institute awards that year. They didn't even nominate. Oh I was GONNA say. They didn't even nominate Mel Gibson but he actually one for a different movie called Tim. Wow which is one hundred percent the Oscar Bait Movie Mentally Handicapped. Twelve twenty year old works as a labor. Looks like they were like Yeah Mad. Max was pretty good like oh Tim. You were still moving as tim by the way next miniseries Tim. It's just just that Tam for Laurie Mel Gibson. All right so. There's no box office for this movie partly because it was barely released in America anyway but also because it's a long time ago but we do have to talk about February eighteen thousand eleven which is win big Mama's you specifically want to do the third one we have February eighteenth two thousand eleven Obama scrolling from my son debuted number five at the box office with a sixteen million dollar opening weekend. Five at sixteen five. And it's one of three big openers. That weeks everything just did. Okay what does it classic February where it's like Twenty Nineteen Thousand Nine Hundred Sixteen twenty? You know everything's making kind of the same amount of money. Does it end up fifty or does? I don't think that's applied like that. No it ended up at thirty seven. Oh it was a two multiplier like in the old number numbers which I do appreciate has sort of shining for like this is where you Wanna end up a little below but do they. Is this like a four day weekend? Is this a prison say weekend or am I wrong? It is which it might be okay. That's number five. It is it is number one that we do it reverse order. Let's let's go. Let's go all right. Number four was number one the week before allow and is a comedy with a big comedy star a comedy with a big Collie Star. Yup and it's twenty one of his last big just down the middle. I'm in a movie with correct. Yeah amazing that you got the movie as well as the storm. I figured you'd get swing. I could ask if it sandler but I'd rather just go that he released moving this just like just go with it. It's me Jennifer Aniston Ramification or whatever who cares. It's French radio seriously. Theft in the CACTUS flower has to pretend to be his wife. She says co worker right like there's a whole Flimflam Brooklyn Decker is decker is playing be Goldie Hawn role that one Goldie Hawn and Oscar Brooklyn decorated Oscar. She did okay good for her. Now can you give me the phone unless you WanNa Technical Award the Academy Science? Sarah can you give me the final domestic total? It was like one oh five. It's like his last hundred million dollar growth. It's sort of the end of it but hey when Jennifer. Aniston won a SAG award last night. She shouted him out on his magic. I've seen up close. Isn't she doing mystery? Murder Mystery thinks shoe three four. Do them all. I'm excited Avatar style pushing back because we're GONNA shoot five into like the first one. He's investigating some fictional. I wanted to Zodiac fucking Bloomberg babies. Get into all of all those people living in the past Russia where all those people died and no one knows why he'll figure it out detective mysteries on the case Zodiac. I can't do this only tonight. I'm excited going to see a live reading of grownups love. Yeah it says special surprise guest. I mean I guess everyone will know by the time that's episode comes out but I kind of wonder if Sandler is going to show up. I mean that would be crazy. But do you think we'll find out? I don't know all right so I mean he's doing a New York l. a. One Yeah. I'm curious now. Maybe spayed fingers crossed you love. He's sure number. Three of the box office had been number three the week before. The show told them today. Number three made it film. Come UP A lot. Yeah this what's important work of Julia depending little venture going along way? Do you like that. I got it off of those clues. This is a vile post interview and seeing this horse. What's The tagline enormous turned around? He leaning over you showing you a little plumbers plumbers crack and it says. Oh crack you up David. Do you know the domestic total nomad. Julia. Four hundred billion dollars. No I don't know I think it will look it up for ninety nine. It didn't make a hundred thousand so kirk if you read. I think I've talked about this before but look interviews with Elton John. About Nami on Julia because he's mentor to this and he's just like those fuckers told me I was dumb per making my no movie to eat my Fuck Shit. So here's the other ninety nine domestic anywhere you assholes. Here's the other thing huge hit. Sonic just released some character posters. Obviously you have a sonic of course you have a robotic of course a James Marsden poster officer Human No. He's credited donut Lord. I guess because he probably does doughnuts but then this is the one. I'm most excited at the Tika sumpter poster Mattie just a name since her knee and might get that poster my wall because it also doesn't say sonic anywhere on Thika Sumter Jack Actress and just says coming soon. It has no sonic branding whatsoever. What is is so I saw the trailer and I feel like Sonics fast talk fast. Yeah Yeah and he simply go find the the funny thing of choice but to go found the funny. The funny thing is is that you'll be some there will be happening and then he'll go do this thing very quick. Ben I Kata give you a key piece of advice here. Do not leave your rings around unattended when Sonic is okay okay. I'm writing it down. We'll take him in the blink of an eye. Also if you have one of those and we all do sort of TV shaped boxes that if you touch it turns you invincible for ten to fifteen seconds. Course you'd better hide that he will jump on one of those and we're saving it for when we really need it but he will go in and use it and it's a one use item. Yes it is unless you can find another one. Don't even talk to me if you have. Any CHAOS EMERALDS VENUE. Really in trouble. Here's another tip. Ah If you if you like in your backyard and we're city boys on talking more people living in the backyard jeans go on you might WanNa tend to your Green Rolling Hills because if your grass is out of control my kids on five. Oh Jeez through number two at the box office should have been number four at the box office. That's it's a fourth movie. In a franchise now number two should have been number. Four is this means Z. I believe does this joke makes sense to you looking at the name of the joke tracks. Okay it's taken more literally. You believe David. What were you gonNa say you said? Oh thank you. It was released by Disney. I think it was one of those. Leftover Dreamworks Movies got released by Disney. But it was released by Disney. Let's think about. It's not strange magic. No look acquisition film. It's a leftover dreamworks to but it should have been number four. Should number four should have been number four? Should be opening a number for you. Think about it think about it. Think about it is all right. Let's see have four in the title anywhere it does. But it's not a foam franchise. O Ge might have heard it honestly. People might have been a little baffled by that. Oh It's this fucking movie. I am number four. That's right. He is number four written by well idea by James Fray right that someone else rose James Fray hot off of lying about his drug addiction. Yeah right started this weird company where he would like boiler room for young adult. He would like higher like English graduates. And we're like all day sit here chained to this desk. Come up with young adult concepts and people would be like alien highschool wizard who also fuck summer made during high school. There's some the tiny. The idea was to combat the concept ghost. Write the book. All the books will be released under pseudonyms. I will collect six profits from anything at all incubator. And then everything's meant to be a franchise. This is the one thing that came out of it and the bomb. No one gave a shit right. Here's the tagline. There were nine of us. Three are dead. I am number four. I I am just like okay addition for that movie. And that's worry number. Four was almost incomprehensible We're just like what's the fucking here. It's about a guy who's number four. So yeah he has like blue hands or something. Yeah it's one of those classic Orange Blue Posters. When are we going to meet aliens? When am I really not we win? Probably by the time this episode ready for marches. All right. That's a it's weird. The world is so crazy that no one talks about the fact that the New York Times has released like eight articles just like navy sauce and more aliens. Here's the video for you. Enjoy Netherlands just like but trump good or bad president on the stories are like just to be clear. The government always acknowledging seeing always thought. Like maybe the government's lying to us about aliens. New York Times publishes government. Yeah we were lying about aliens. We've seen them. They're out there and people are like but Pete Davidson. Who is he dating now? He's got a big one. I'm sorry you're talking about the King of Staten Island Number. One at the box office number one of the bikes this In Two Thousand Eleven. Please go ahead. Small fines getting something out of town allergies. Or what jared in helping okay? I'm sorry number two at the box number one number. Joyce I am number four comprising Lee enough number. One is another movie It's an action film. It is I believe the first in a yes you said that was like a dreamworks like Disney dumb yet remember. This is the year that avengers near first release comes out no. It's the year before and Eleven Disney at this point. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that's what I'm deal like bull isn't that long ago anyway number so this is the first collaboration of I. Think three or four between this director and actor who become like sort of a fun. It's of course it's a Waldberg squared. It's not Bergen Walberg now too much better pair. And they worked together four times and this is the first one. I worked there four times in the last nine years. Correct who puts out action movies and that kind of clip is. That's right of course nonstop. No that is also my favorite one. But that was their second collaboration. I believe this is the world. This is the worst one. This is unknown. Yes which is and this is only coming out like a year or two after taken never even heard of this. It's like one of those things were like. Oh goes to Berlin or something and then his wife disappears and then it's like you never had a wife like there's some weird sort of like a gas lit punch everyone to figure this one out solution. The problem with unknown is it was like taken caught everyone by surprise. Yeah and more brothers was like Oh. Let's put him in like a big budget more serious thriller. Most serious-minded doesn't get. It should just be fun. And then they're just like it attack. Who is he a washed up? Guy Where is he a piece of transportation thing that moves through? The Earth. Non-stop has my favorite fucking monologue. Which is like. He's figured out how to save the day but no one believes him because they've framed him and like all. The Blue TV screens are showing like news broadcasts them should he passed away and he gets in this airplane. That can barely fit him. And he's like everything you've heard about me. His true. I'm a terrible father was a lousy husband. I'm an awful drunk. I thought foreman every bad things done I remember I remember. I've been delinquent on my taxes. I don't tip that well. I still have tapes from blockbuster. Even my local store was one of the first to go. I'm the only person who can save. It just goes on for so long now. I remember great movie. That's my. I'm always late to birthday parties. I think that it's for me. It's nonstop best and then the commuter I like the commuter and then run all night which is good but he's a little shaggy after it's a wild move via has the least. Niessen keeps cutting to all these other people and you're Kinda like I care about new hanging out and then and then unknown of the four. Yes we are the four Niessen. Remember when we have the same parents. Of course mom and dad up tall. I'll give them right. I degree which I pump my fist at the reveal of. Nolte being his brother movie it makes such beautiful nonsense. But it's so perfect right right. Yeah I I never saw called pursued. I feel like I need to watch it. It was just so marred by him. Coming out and being movie doesn't have the jump Koteswara magic but not a bad movie I liked. It was fine. I love my niece sense. I mean I also feel like what I'll say about cold pursue is it feels like there's a new trope in action from John Wick which is like the fucking slickest sexiest mercenaries you've ever met sure. We're like I always feel like my memory of thugs from action movies where they were like big hairy ugly dude right right or then like over the top sexualize women and I feel like now. It's this thing where every guy looks like he reads G. Q. Magazine and it's just like the the hottest fucking dude in the war. It's my favorite thing about the Nissan. Movies is that is so big that he can barely move like he is not swift in five minutes. Yeah well then they put him in a puffy jacket. You should see him in this movie. Looks like a big loaf man. Love bread remember when he was in many bike international. Of course I'm just trying to see what else he's up to. Yeah I don't know. Did he say anything like recently but it was like men in black and cold. Pursuit were the two things that came out right after his like whole cadre was that. Akash and he had this movie called ordinary love which would Lesley Manville which is like a sort of sad. Maybe someone's dying movie. There was a tiff. So that's coming out this year but I also feel like they're like we're not gonNa let him do press ever again. Well he's got three movies coming out next year and this year given once called honest thief in which him. And Courtney thing I've ever been honest about Robert is in it. Yeah swear God took because he's falling. Nobody wants to live in on his life but he realizes the feds and more corrupt than him. And I just tend tickets. Tight held something called the minute man. Which is rancher on. The borders has to take down some cartel assassins. Mexican boys being chased by. Crops are bad this year. Which is Robert Lorenzo? Which is you know the guy who made trouble the curve. One of the eastbound disciples. Yeah and then something called main made in Italy which that's a drama. That's not going to kill anyone but that could that could be an action movie down these fine Italian loafers. Doesn't that sound good? What's it called the honest thing the thing I love about widows? I love so much round Is that a subplot in that movie that she married. Liam Neeson's character from Decca January thriller. Like she's like I was living a great life and it turned out my my husband was Liam Neeson's in Ronald night. He Soak it in that he is. He's great now. Great moving well of course has been episode of Mad. Max Great Episode of ood Static Fun Mad at Fun Mad Fun Mad Fund. Mad Fun and guys will wait. Let me double check. Make sure there's nothing in the way. There's no pop ups. Yeah there's no pop ups next week man Max to Maurier with special guest. John Gabor's in the Ken. Mikhail get excited. Get excited for George Miller. We're finally doing so wild around. Yeah and say it'd be back in a franchise to finance a very different type of franchise different type but you know but it's nice to spend like extended time in one universe. It's a stall gic right right right and thank you all for listening. Thanks you all for listening. Thanks to answer Gouda for social media. Thanks to Rachel Jacobs for editing. Thanks to Joe Bowen Parents for Art Work Liam Montgomery for our theme song go to on Chek Dot com slash patron to become a check. Meet of course as much as we should as one should Enjoy a I hope you enjoy this this fury road. We're GONNA take you down for the next Two months and change Ends always realistically do you think. Liam easterner Pete Davidson bigger news. I think so too right. You've got the height right. I have you seen pushing him. No I think I saw like half an hour. What does that even mean? Free CONTROLLERS AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS. Down the runway. Yeah I hate that. Well that's what they call it. That's too casual for me. Lanes are serious. I agree with you but they you know they do. They got to have a little fun. Never 'cause pushing tin is about like John cusack irregular aircraft controller. He's like Beep Boop boop you're clear for takeoff and they believe about Deutsche. How the cowboys. I'm the cowboy air traffic controller. Who's a cowboy? It's move out of you know he's a cowboy he's like how is the movie were Angelina? Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton meet. Yes and that was the only reason. I ever thought of that movie and then I found out the other day it is written by the Charles Brothers. Yeah or the numbers of cheers and the main writers taxi. And it's the only movie they ever wrote. I think it was written years ago. I was like a script. Someone picked up Mike Newell. I'm like doing you want just pushing. Well John Cusak plays a guy called Nick Faldo zone hock it does. His nickname is zone. That's kind of good. And maybe he likes cows zones too.

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Ep. 87 1917 Review

"Welcome to the plaza. podcast episode eighty-seven my name's Chris and I'm Joel. Thank you to all of Dr Patriot. Supporters That support the show financially. We are listener supported. So we appreciate Y'all and we also like to give back to yell through that and we provide lied free movie tickets concession discounts all sorts of stuff for like Ford eight bucks. I can't remember you get like two free movies a month for twenty twenty bucks you can get five free movies a month So if you want to check out those benefits go to our patriots on website. It's a patriot. Dot Com Forward Award Slash Plaza cinema four would also like to think our sponsor next level laser tag a new company serving wise and surrounding counties. Call Nine and four zero six to seven next to Booker Mobile Party today or check their website out at www dot next level laser tag dot com. Okay so and today's episode which were doing about a day late you know. We had some some emergencies. Come up and so We will be reviewing nineteen seventeen Which is a war movie What base off the war? One right So this left coast so let me read part you know. It's it's based off the two young British British soldiers during the first world. War are given impossible mission to deliver a message deep in enemy territory. That will stop sixteen hundred men and one of the one of the soldiers brothers from walking straight into a trap base. That's kind of the plot. The main plot. Yeah that's you're dropped into it. It's really really cool. How they start the movie? It's like no setup really. Yeah you're just dropped in to it. The war's already begun They're you know they're uh-huh just kind of sitting there Taking a nap or something and Buna filled the told the wake up. Go see the general or whatever and it. It's it's nonstop from there. Yeah and here. Here's the thing I don't know if you can catch it at the beginning but it's it's almost like this entire thing is just one complete fleet. Seen one complete shot. They do camera tricks to make it look like one shot throughout the entire movie which was really cool. Yeah so it's like basically it's like you following these two people the entire time and it's like you're almost experiencing everything in real time like there's no Oh progression besides one instance But other than that You you're following in real time your minute. Is there minute in it type of thing so it makes it real you get really invested in this movie and That that trick they use to make it look like one Shaw Shaw. It really made me feel like I was part of the action. And there's one scene in particular where The the hairs on my arm arm started to stand up because I was like it was just like insole tint hints. Yeah I'll admit I can't remember what part was but there was a part that kind of got me jumped a a little bit. I jumped and I can't remember what it was probably an explosion or something happened Yeah there's a couple of me I'll I will say it was the rat. Yeah yeah that's what got rat rat. Oh yeah I know exactly what you're talking about But this was directed by Sam Mendez Who's Done Academy Award winning movies like American Beauty He did Casino Royale. Sky Fall and The one one after that I can't remember the newest one Whatever it's called but he did several bond movies movies and this is probably my one of my favorites That he's done. I really like American beauty. And I like Casino Royale but this it's so investing like you get so involved My heart like couldn't take it like I was like Having anxiety just from all the different things going on now. Here's here's the one thing and maybe you feel differently Bentley and maybe a lot of other people feel differently too. I will be honest. I forgot PROB- Tom. Maybe halfway through I forgot what the mission was. Because this movie is rated R.. Okay but what it shows it shows the the like the real aspect of what war actually actually was the death I mean how everything was. UC and it's a lot of stuff is gruesome in some. You know if you have a very weak stomach you know things might affect you. It may affect U. N.. To be honest maybe it'll affect people that have. PTSD that you know can bring back some cause. Some very traumatizing moments. I almost basically forgot. What the main mission was? Because you see see a lot of that the entire time a I never forgot what the mission was. But if what you're saying thing is like you're so invest in wrapped in what's going on you forget. Yeah Yeah because I I get that because like I said there's no time transitions Russians. So you're literally basically experiencing the movie in real time like if they're having to walk your having to watch them walk because there's no cuts it's all one fluid. It's not lying okay. We're jumping from this part of the day to all of a sudden were in this next. Say Town yeah every every step every Carl whatever. Yeah every roadblock and there was trees they had to get out stuck in the mud and and I like this is not spoiler stuff but this is just it just gives you what to expect in this movie. Yeah and here's the thing it's going to have A. I think it's going to have a different audience and you're GonNa have a lot of the older generation. You're going to have a lot of the veterans. They're all they're they're all going to be very interested in this movie And people that are really into the war type movies but you're not naught for people that are just so hardcore into like the action you know we're and we're talking to war film. Yeah and then in how. It's basically just like one. Continuous scene How it makes it? I don't know if you're going to have a great great time with it but when you look look at it and watch it I think you can appreciate What you are watching? Well I I think the the so one thing Osaman does does well as he introduces conflict at every. Turn like whether it's climbing something dangerous or moving bar wire or just Going through a town that looks abandoned. He does so many different things and puts obstacles in the characters. Way that you're just always on edge that they have to make a decision. Yeah and that that just makes you gives you a feeling of anxiety but it makes it makes the movie move quickly in my opinion. I don't know maybe you're saying you. It moved a little slow for you. some parts. Yes but you know it got me thinking on how like how war could how war is definitely felt real it Kinda like how human nature and let's let me like a particular scene. Let me just you know. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I won't spoil it but let's say a particular scene they were. They came across this kind of abandoned house. Kinda thing is Kinda early in in In the movie and there was fighter. Jets one got shot down almost. Hit them okay. That was an enemy. You fallen jet One of the characters in that pull them out was basically trying to help him. Yeah I mean human human nature. No matter who you are where you're from you want you want to try to help. He didn't he. Didn't just Slepian me burn. Yeah he was trying to save him. Whenever they're at war with these people and ecorse things have happened in that scene? And you have to see what they have to do. And it's just it's crazy. There's always choices that they yes and so it's a hard road the that they track but I thought it was well worth it. I I mean Roger Deacons the cinematographer geography He. He has shot some of my favorite movies. Blade runner twenty forty nine Any COEN brothers movie. He's he's probably done most of the cinematography for it but this movie is Gorgeous Looking I think the pacing The camera movements he chooses to do And the the score the was pretty intense. It was it was pretty downplayed. Like there's not a lot of music. Yeah but when it would it fit really well when it would start to go up it would like give me chills sometimes and the thing. What in the thing is the score on this movie it? It didn't feel out of place if like it. It felt like it belonged there so it didn't stick out like a sore. Oh Yeah I like how dunkirk had a little if you saw that in a while the score I like it but it was a little overplayed like you easily noticed. This one is so kind of mixed. Well that it's it's like like a character in the movie that Just just flows well with a movie doesn't distract you or take you out of it. It compliments the scenes very well so overall the all those things I I I thought this was a great movie from Twenty Nineteen. It did get its wide release. Is this week right. But it's technically came out in twenty nineteen. Yeah I think this would have made my top ten really I think so I don't know what I would have bumped doubt I really don't i. It would have been tough. And here's the thing here on the for me. This is a this wouldn't really be a movie that I would normally sit through through. I'll be totally honest like this is not a movie in in going into this new. Had to watch it like I watched it early in the morning. So I'm just kind of like. Oh my gosh like am I gonNA stay up going to pay attention. It's like I was. I was nervous watching this movie because this is not necessarily a movie that I would be. I was like so amped for but I knew and I heard some of the stuff about it. It was supposed to be really good. And yes I did get invested in it and I watched it. I didn't Miss Anything You know I paid attention. I it wasn't just like kind of looking at my phone and just just watch bits and pieces like I paid attention to it so it surprised me but I but the one thing I did notice was the whole continuation in like almost one take. It seemed like that's what I thought was really cool. How they did it where it was just like? You're part heart of this like you're almost like a just you're with them. You're like it's almost like they're talking to you as well. Uh just tagging along with them. That's it that's what it felt like. And and so here in all that and I just pulled it up and I I kind of was was right Rotten tomatoes has it obviously certified fresh eighty nine okay. Audience has it at ninety three. Yeah I was G. I would guess easily in the nineties. I'm surprised I mean it's eighty nine. It's one away but still I would've. Yeah I was guessing like a ninety three critic rating so the audience is actually enjoy a little more. Yeah so I really really thought that it was solid and you know what. I'm actually going to go right there in the middle and I'M GONNA put it at a nine. Oh you're gonNA give it a non. I'm going to give it a nine because I had such a for under appreciation for it in a low expectation. Okay so I bumped it up based off of how much nine did enjoy it and how much it surprised me and how the how the shots were and but the reality of war. Yeah yeah definitely see a lot of the different aspects that some movies don't address And I I think it was done very very very well I ah I just got out of it. I'm not exactly sure where this is going to land but I definitely would give this At least a nine for me as well at least It it really was everything I expected. I was hoping to have have a movie. That you're on the edge of your seat the entire time and it really was the the characters you get to know them a little bit. There's not a ton of character development but because you're not spending days with these people you're spending literally hours with act because that's what it was hours and so because of the no cuts thing you don't get to skip in and get to see days with these characters and learn about their backstory right. You get a little learn a little bit about them but mostly you're spending eight hours with them. Yeah in in a two hour movie so yeah yeah I just really liked it Thought it was Very intense and seal. Yeah I I give it a nine. It's the first time we've like been spot on. I think so. Yeah because that doesn't happen very I know I know it's funny So yeah I think I would have tried to fit this on my top ten not sure I would have tried my my hardest though but for for us. I know this came out in twenty nineteen toward the end but why it released in January. Yeah th this week is. It's yeah official wide release but with January and February being very slow months in the movie industry as a whole. You won't see a whole lot of blockbuster movies. This is a good saw. Saw Start for the new year. A good solid January movie. Oh yeah and I think this one will do really well especially with the older generation of of the veterans. The that's GonNa do obscene that today. I've seen a lot of that today and I think you'll continue seeing that and they're going to really enjoy way too and I think it will bring you know into for some of them. It'll probably be emotional. Oh Yeah it was emotional for me so I can only imagine what it would be like for people people that have been there and stuff. Yeah there's a lot of heart and emotion in this movie yeah So don a bad start for January guy. I know I'm surprised Well I mean it's hard to say that this is a January movie. Yeah for technically but for us we can call it that and yes. This was is an amazing start for January so we have a lot of like we also have a lot of other announcements but the I I I guess you can consider this breaking news. Oh so I literally just got an email like while we're on air okay. Okay Breaking News. You won't believe what we're already wanting they're wanting us to do for advanced NANCE ticket sales launch in advance group buyouts. Wow okay do I guess I will give you the month. Okay Hi This is already going to be released from May twenty second. Wow may where we are months away exactly or for but And the ticket in the plan advanced ticket launch will be on the thirty first of January. So we're getting this well for two plan to have. Everything launched on Friday January thirty first pretty much at seven o'clock in the morning and his win win tickets. Connect facially go on sale. Yeah I'M GONNA Guess Black Widow. You are wrong. Oh what is it for asking the furious nine. Oh my gosh what. I didn't even know there was a fast and furious nine. Yeah Yeah what yes. I have the email right here in May make my gosh who the heck knew knew. There was going to be a fast and furious nine. This this from was who I mean. Who's this firm like? They're universal you heard it here first guys that's rough asking for your is nine comes out this year. Who would have thunk? Yeah I I don't even know who's actually going to be in. It can't wait to see vin diesel drive a Mustang or something. I'm always gets me going. I mean they're actually wanting to do group buyouts it's and everything else. Yeah it's universal. I mean we got this from our representative from universal. So this is wow. This is legitimate. They'll go go tell all your friends guys secret secret news so I had to share that I had to share that but I did get something that is actually coming out in normal. Like a normal Window the window which is in February we are officially getting birds of prey. Oh okay which is if no one knows. And you haven't been following overseeing trailers that's the Harley Quinn movie. They changed the name. Yeah it's called. It's like a weird titles. Like birds of prey and Harley Quinn in the fantabulous yeah is that I still. It's so it's that full title now. Okay I thought so but then on trailers and stuff you only see birds of prey so it's like which title are you going with. Let's see WHOA. Actually they just went with birds of prey. Yeah I think they changed the title. Yeah because it was Harley Quinn and then fantabulous Bo. I can't even remember it. I I can We still have a poster of it that says it s just like. Oh that's too much. I know I guess they realize yeah. I don't really want to put out the poster. Let's let's that cost us too much money too much letters But what we will be doing next week will be the third third movie of this. I guess you can say now. It's a trilogy. Isn't it the third. Oh Yes yes I know what. You're talking about now. Bad bad boys for life. Yeah so bad boys three. It's the trilogy trilogy. The hopefully the end. Yeah you would hope you would. I hope I mean Martin. Lawrence Will Smith Martin Lawrence's we'll chunkier than it used to be a little bit chunkier little bit older as well Smith Myth. He'll still looks the same. Yeah we'll Smith doesn't age. He doesn't age must be that. Da gene technology like they did for a Jim Nine Am. And I man which I still would have been one of my top worst movies easily. But we're are going to be reviewing that one and of course it's another rated R.. You will see that theme for January and February that this is the the the month that they release a lot of rated R movies. Now we are picking up doolittle which is PG but we're not real sure about it We're not real sure about the only thing has going for Robert Downey Jr.. That's about it but I I don't know there's heckler looked well. There's not been a lot of promotion for really there's one trailer and it's I've only seen only seen one trailer I've seen tons of bad. Oh boy you see it all over the place so it's GonNa easily win. Oh Yeah we've that week but that's kind of the theme is going to be rated R. for sure so January. It's it's going to be a little rough. There's GonNa be always they always are. I'll look hopefully it's not another replicas. I don't know again. I really don't think they could do it again. You'll just have to text me. I tried watching this. Let's move this morning. Don't even bother and I'll be like okay. Thank you Chris. Yeah taking the bullet for me. So February looks okay because birds of prey okay. I think I'm looking. I'm really looking forward to seeing Harley Quinn. Because she was fantastic in suicide squad. Oh Yeah and but you WanNa we know what the other one. I'm actually looking for too which I know. We'll get it but I'm kind of looking forward to just because I want to see the difference. Prince in that is actually that comes out on Valentine's Day. Sonic the HEDGEHOG. Oh okay okay. Since you know. They had to Redo his Yeah it it looks way way way better. So yeah maybe if they thought the movie had something they were willing to spend all the money to make him look normal and so he should actually for the game. I think it has a chance to be something but I'm not I'm not gonNA I put my hope in it. Yeah 'cause looking at February release a man. There's there's not a whole lot going on but you you see a Lotta rated R.. And I just don't see anything else after After the fourteenth which would be. Sonic 'cause as you got birds of prey would be the seven so it's like the first first weekend on February then you got sonic the next week after that twenty-first I don't know it's a Sifi has vin diesel in it Bloodshot I saw the trailer for that. Yeah looks yeah so I'm not real. Sure call the call of the wild looks interesting Harrison Ford. Yeah Yeah Actually I would be interested in. Yeah that one. That one seems that it's a possibility but all these other ones there's just it's not even at the end of February. There's just nothing. There's just nothing and I think March have some good ones too so it's GonNa that'd be rough but hopefully we'll we'll we'll still have some really good content you know maybe we'll throw something enough a different episode of something else you know no but we do have some other news to that will what will end on is we finally got back. Our Logo Logo Tube that we wanted to put on hoodies. Yeah and I think it looks pretty cool. Yeah it does. The image didn't lose any quality. I am excited to see what it would look like when you wear it like it's going to be placed exactly I'm interested It looks Nice. Yeah so we are going to be taking. Orders for hoodies I think I already forgot how much we're selling them for thirty. I think it was thirty. Five thirty five. It was thirty five for small to extra large and then double xl up. It was thirty seven. If I'm not mistaken We're going to try that out and see how it goes I'm GONNA get colors. 'cause we can act you can actually special order a Hoodie from us. You know with our logo on the for the colored hoodie would like and we're GONNA get Color options Sion's forever body so if you're like really interested and you want a Hoodie go to the actually the plaza four facebook page. And you know you can send us a message. You can send us a direct message. You know you don't have to put it Post you can send us an actual direct message That you're interested in a Hoodie. Because what we're going to and you know what you don't even have to if you like you don't even have to be Live in our county in our town or anything like that. Because what what we're GONNA be doing is probably GonNa be accepting the Through cash APP and apple pay because those are really simple to do and it's just mostly everybody can pay with stuff on their phone anyways Cash APP is good for a free APP. Free to set up everything it's on Android or I O S. So if you don't have apple pay you can do cash up and we're going to take orders for those so you can send us a message surge will give you the color options you can have one ordered. We will place it and once it comes in. We'll even ship it to you so I I think this is gonna be really cool. Hopefully we can get Get quite a few orders in. Because I know we're already going to get we're getting some but we're we're going to be getting more but still we're gonNA have a Hoodie and they look they do. They're going to look. I think they're gonNA look really sweet. I'm really I'm really excited me too. Yeah the logo you you show me that. Got Me excited. Yeah so and got our new cards and for Patriot on those those look really nice you wanna be a member hey. The Plaza peep has a really cool card. Yeah so does the the twenty dollar and they're still spots for the twenty dollar one. Yeah so if you're a local and you want to come to the movie and you come to the movies a lot twenty dollars a month. Five movies any showing any showing there you go so get definitely. Check that out That actually it's going to wrap up today's episode Kinda short it wasn't it wasn't a whole lot to talk about with this move on nineteen seventeen. You know. It's pretty self expense self explanatory. It's not like a it's you know it's not something that you to talk about. It's not like a star wars. Yeah anything like that. It's I mean it's pretty right to the point and But is definitely definitely a movie become go watch. I think it's one you need to see you. Do I think you need to see it just because it's great. It's a great movie but I think there's also gonNA give view some some perspective as well all right. Well that will do it for today. So thank you for joining us on the plaza podcast. We'll I'll see you soon

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Hour 3: Old Man!

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

35:12 min | 11 months ago

Hour 3: Old Man!

"Donlevatar if you see a photo of fries you reach for not unlike a pigeon flying into a sliding glass. I i'm not kidding you. I have been tempted in restaurants. Just won't pass tables to grab somebody's fries. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. You've done to me done that being on like actual photographs retry to zoom zuma night with your fingers and you just make a big streak cross it a bigger fry. Lick my computer screen when it's on there. I love french fries. Stugatz doesn't love french fries. I thought it i always someone out there. That was the one thing america could agree on. I thought that that was the one place where every citizen in our country would indeed be united across the fifty states these labor tar show with stu gods ads on e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. Radio is presented by progressive insurance guests on the dan lebatardshow appear via the shell pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. The mets scored five times in the top of the ninth to take a ten to four lead only to watch the nationals erupt for seven runs and kurt suzuki hit a walk off three run homer to win eleven to ten might give me the short stat of the day start of the day startled in this stat of the day start of the the day's startled the easiest out of the day start of the day start of the day this stat of the day start up the day a start up the day of the <hes> <hes> hey dan the mets entered the night eight hundred six and oh with a six or more run lead in the ninth inning or later. The nationals had eight eight. Oh seven hundred and seventy five record in a knife with a six or more run deficit love to bet that in game ninth-inning among those stats i went to sleep digging the mets at one it was not until my drive in this morning where jason fitz delivered and update and he alerted me the mets loss will someone please put some decoration in that room jason fitz in to do golic and wingo. It's sad and looks a bit like a prison like solitary confinement. Somebody put something in there so that jason fitz doesn't have to be alone with sadness. Jason tatum will miss at least the next two world cup games for team u._s._a. With a sprained left ankle all lockheed l look bad man and finally al pacino turned down the role of han solo in star wars at drew louis whatever movie i would've been put on the poll. Would you have liked to have seen al pacino. Ah on solo are worth for all the latest headlines and information tune into sports at already e._s._p._n. Radio all throughout the day. I'm i'm also a shame ashamed to admit stu gods that i got it wrong on your mets. I did a deeper dive on the numbers. I'd set a couple of weeks ago that they were <hes> better than some of the teams they were competing against for the wild card and they are not better than the nationals like there. No there are no numbers that would support that they are actually better than the nash you down a little further. <hes> i actually look at some numbers. I got fooled by their hot streak and i was like oh wait. No the nationals knows they're really good in the mets are just okay the national since i think may mid-may you can make a case. They've been the best even baseball. That's how good that pitching staff has been. It's incredible edible harbor. The best of the best of baseball is a good deal better than everyone else. When you look at <hes> you know the top four teams including loading the braves and then the i don't know how an american how the hell is an american league team gonna make their way through both the yankees and the astros like it because it's is baseball but both of them through both of them. I guess i mean baseball gives you a better shot at the randomness but <hes> those those two teams are a pretty overwhelming <hes>. They are the raise a really good though and smart. I mean just the way they go about it. They don't have to worry about starting pitching. They have like five pitchers a game. I mean and there are smart team and they've been very good to get the yankees this year. Record was i just i i'd be really surprised if anyone other than the yankees or astros ends up coming out of the american league <hes> but if you're just joining us stu gods had what we believed to be a record setting our of mistakes and <hes> billy earlier earlier in the show was arguing. I don't understand the argument but because i gave the stat to <hes> credit to berry jackson of the miami herald that the dolphins are going into the season with a defensive offensive line that has a total of five and a half n._f._l. Sacks billy doesn't understand widened to steal that why it is that i gave the credit when the stat is just a fact <hes> but it was not my stat and god's heavily endorses this stu gods heavily endorses this he believes he believes that he can steal lending without giving credit however he wants credit for breaking the zeke elliott story yesterday. He told you yesterday on the show. He basically basically laid it out for you before. All of these reporters got in the fray. Edwards and todd archer stugatz broke doc this story during our show yesterday. He absolutely broke this news now. Did he see other. People may be speculating about it on twitter. Possibly who's to say who knows goes now. Could those people be stu got his sources the same way those journalists have sources absolutely they could anyone yesterday say definitively zeke elliott deal done ninety million dollars. No no one said it until stu got so in the world's view stu gods should get credit for reporting the news that that deal is done for that amount of money his sources may have been other reporters speculating and they may actually have sources but that's outsources work work to god's sources have just known by everybody but nobody wanted to put their name on it accepts stugatz therefore he should get credit for breaking that news that is not how sources work irk. You don't seem to know much of anything about how source sources where people give you information now. Most people keep their source of secrets because they're cowards got out there and he's like you know what this is my source. That's my source. It doesn't matter if it's water it doesn't matter schefter those are his sources and he put two and two together and he got to four yep zeke deal done ninety million dollars. They have have their sources dated. I have mine and they are mind okay. I'm an aggregate site. Okay so what i do is collect. All this information and i have the grapefruits to get out there early. You just say it's it's time to report this and that's what i did while let's listen to that sound. This is from yesterday about twenty four hours ago. Put it on the poll. Guillermo should stu gods. Get credit for for the news break. <hes> that zeke elliott was signing. Can i report it. I mean you can report. A chore is being run with the story. Just let me know the details to like one of the details. I am reporting that zeke. Elliott is going to side with the cowboys. They rip up the old one. They give him a new contract and it's going to be a ninety a million dollar contract about that. Wow what are the years. Maybe six seven years something like that team. Option de details the com- still working it out nailed it yeah yep next off season. Dak prescott get an extension of that. How about that. We learned earlier in the show is also so stolen by stugatz all stealing from christopher mad dog russo dano but next off season and he's a source too by the way next off season dak prescott amari kuper extensions with the cowboys working out the details walk that back a little bit and just say before next season starts because if it happens during the season then you'd be wrong. You want to back it up a little bit. Give yourself some leeway. If four next season starts extension or before next season starts dak prescott amari cooper we'll both sign extensions with the cowboys have of that working out the details somewhere in the neighborhood of five to six years. I just got one hundred ten. I think right jaw aw vague here because you can't give stu gods confidence because you see what happens like every time this is what happened giving <hes> zeke elliott eight years which is basically what they've done but they've put in provisions. Who's reporting that the provision for off-field con no-one no-one no-one yet. I had reported it yet what we do know. Is that the cowboys. What we do know is that the cowboys who have been very transparent with all the details in all of their other extensions shinzo deals. This offseason haven't been so transparent yet when it comes to this ezekiel elliott deal. We were talking about the nationals earlier. Did this do. Why have this right that this actually happened a couple of weeks ago. Did jack white go to nationals game in the first couple of innings and then go do his show with the rock on tours and then come back in extra innings to watch more nationals game he did that seems impossible. I know how that went down to. He was he was looking at his laptop after the show and he was like holy cow game still going on. Well know that you were watching him weren't you were just basing eh backstage for that one security risk by the way <hes> you know one of the league games come back as jack white what to do it. Yeah that's true. He's the only one that's allowed to guess what he said like. If they get another out we're going back to this game and he got out and he's like everybody on the bus and they went there and he got out there and i think the thirteenth inning and he saw them rally tiet and extend the game so your winnings. We'll put it on the poll. Please is a baseball game too long. If jack white white is in attendance in the early inning leaves and does his show and then comes back for the end of the game so god's here at anytime what in four car batteries is about to fail so think ahead and get yours tested for free at advance auto parts. 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This is our show with his two guys on e._s._p._n. Radio geir mo can you put it on the poll please. At lebatardshow we have lost mike like ryan for the next couple of minutes as he sees the new bad boys trailer with martin lawrence and will smith <hes>. Put it on the poll. Please at lebatardshow. Oh are you bothered by how much of the advertising budget pnn l. uses every time <hes> one of these storms blows through here and then all the sudden. They're on every damn channel telling you how much they care about your power like. Does that bother anybody else because i can't believe the overflow of money that f. pnn l. has has anytime. There's a storm around here all of a sudden. I'm meeting every guy who's ever fixed. The lightbulb in this city is on my television telling me how much he cares about on may strike while the iron hot feels like these earth or a bit of a marketing ploy for f- p._n._l. Who's happier. Put this on on the poll as well. Who's happier when this stuff happens the electric companies or <hes> the weather the weather people terrorist and and by the way i'm telling you that what happened in the bahamas right now and it's awful as you're watching all of this video that is catastrophic <hes> that that could have been awesome man like it simply. It's simply a direction of change in wind that makes the water from this ocean not be up to the second second floor of these studios because and it's beautiful outside it is after after everyone's scared the holy hell out of us telling us the this storm was nearby headed our way if that had hit here i know you might think of the bahamas as not having the infrastructure and it doesn't have the infrastructure structure to withstand this. I'm telling you miami doesn't either this area would all be under water. If that thing had just come here last night was gorgeous but to your point there have been articles written written about that that the ocean and the and it's the beach and then it's the street and its buildings and if the wrong storm hit south beach miami miami that is the wrong. Storm orange is what i'm saying and we've had. I don't know how many category five has been. The wrong source been happening a lot lately yeah like that part yet. The storms keep getting stronger and stronger and there is nothing to protect us from that it. It is just <hes>. Do you have the good fortune the thing about this particular area area where we live the reason when you watch scarface this area is not it doesn't have real estate. It's just old people on the street in government housing is because those people knew you do not build anything expensive this close to an ocean where there is no protection for the storms arms that come here. It's different. If you're in malibu where you your home your valuable things although they have a different set of issues in malibu either deal with earthquakes and dan fires well yeah that we were just very fortunate here like the rolling stones. I went to that rolling stones concert on <hes> on friday got they had to they had to move it up right and there was just general fear because of all the rain that was happening and by the way the rolling stones you would not think so they still bring it what they still care and i the first two songs i was a little worried to god's because they put their faces up on all the big screens and i was like these guys are a little bit mummified. We've got a fossil situation here and they came out slow but they were just is pacing themselves because they're old people who still bring it. Mick jagger crushes it that drummers funny to look at this point. I'm sorry i don't want to be mean. What's his name. Charles waters every time they showed him and they were like an hour late. My dad was making joe. Someone wake up charlie charlie get out of your home but go ahead and look at look at the payment black video that he's in and he looks exactly the same. Was there like a gas when they showed keith richards like everyone collectively right think he looked better. Don't get out and you would think got's what's given an avalanche of drug use over the years <hes> but <hes> i love to figure out a way and i don't know how i don't know how well we can help because we are affiliated with red cross here at disney but i would love to figure out a way for our show to do something <hes> for the people of the bahamas because that if if this place were under water for a week where storm is just sitting there. It's not just that it hits you. It hits you and then it just stays there for twenty four hours. That's rare that that was something. I don't thirty six hours rare anymore anymore. We're talking about unprecedented kinds of catastrophes anyway. What about that bad boys trailer. How does it look dog like martin lawrence face yeah. He had how many years to get in shape for this movie like it. He not know when they were filming. This show man man but they're leaning into it at least which makes a trailer kind of funny. It's red ban by the way so don't watch it at work like i did almost joey pants gets in there and he says honestly mislead thirty f- word back to back just to show you that it's are rated. I guess and his hairpieces back don't you fret but <hes> yeah. Martin lawrence looks ridiculous and <hes> there. There's like a very expensive car. That's driving through brick. <hes> brickell city centre. I didn't see the clevelander studios and yeah but <hes> you know lots of car. Chases lots of bad boys bad boy singing lots of like. I'm too old for this and screaming while you're like ridiculously on a motorcycle so it's gonna be awesome. They were filming for people that don't know in that are listening. They filmed right outside on the beach. Here and billy went out there and was our correspondent respondent. How great would it be if billy allison appeared in the background of this movie so what numbers this for bad boys now. This bad boy's three but the title is bad boys for life which leads me to believe. They're not planning on a fourth bad boys because this is the title that you sit on for the fourth so he had sixteen years to get ready for this or bad bad boys prequel roy. How did you feel watching it. I feel bad for morton his head. It's it just grew. It looks like he kept like the prospects from big momma's house yeah the might forget the tone take it off. Donlevatar people have told me before when i was younger that i looked like george clooney of syria when i was younger stugatz you have a bigger and you're right nostril sodas cloning liveth our show with his two guys on e._s._p._n. Radio here's your sportscenter update. The mets scored five times in the top of the take a ten to four lead only to watch the nationals erupt for seven runs and kurt suzuki. They walk off three run homer to win. Eleven get out kurt suzuki zouqi exactly what i was like twelve when that guy broke in with the mariners right yeah jason tatum will miss at least the next two world cup games for team u._s._a. With a sprained left ankle i remember him as an a you were laughing at bill simmons during the break because of jason tatum. Why were you laughing at bill simmons during the break because simmons tweeted out. I hope devon booker's watching this o._t. Not game before is intense workout with some five nine trainer who just keeps feeding him uncontested threes because that's a better way to prepare for the season. It was blasting devon booker looking for not playing a team u._s._a. Moments later jason tatum got hurt and he got mad at jason tatum playing it team u._s._a. Broken with oakland never played for seattle yeah. It's in keeping with god's his expertise. Today you confuse them with the other famous suzuki that blade seattle or cavs sake. I chris you wanna back me up here the baseball guy stop with a back like stop that move okay. He's not back us up the move of getting a fact wrong and then telling us to look at opera asking for backup. Just accept the you've got another fact wrong and i historic day for getting facts wrong okay chris. You want to back them up. I thought he was very when he said you're on. Who are we thinking of. I don't know who you're thinking of. Maybe i don't in order to know where mike just said that it out. I mean i'm not certain lakes right and finally played a vegan woman has filed a suit against their neighbors in the australian surpreme court after complaining about the smell of meat and fish emanating from their barbecues and i told you maybe you're thinking of kozaki sure <hes> for all the latest headlines and information in the sports center on e._s._p._n. Radio all throughout the day. I i have paid the fine here for calling the drummer of the rolling stones charlie waters instead of charlie watt stu gods pointed out to me during the break that charlie charlie waters was a safety. I believe for the cowboys. I don't believe anything he saying today so i i don't. I don't know look it up. I i have no desire to look whether charlie waters was a safety for the cowboys are not is born in miami <hes> happy thirty eighth birthday they to beyond saying happy birthday to her. I don't care good luck. Charlie waters cowboys. I'm back yeah the single bar face mask through playing safety crazy charlie waters and you had a respectable effective career played at clemson miami guys leaving for clemson and ain't that the truth the whole thing that's happening with clemson is strange you realize for how long team has been a laughing stock doc like you could not count on clemson to win a big game across several decades at clemson this this was a thing is the thing during twitter and they fixed it with dabo swinney. Dabo swinney is sounding older than ever these days. <hes> look at billy smiling back there because he was delighting. What is the worst part of this sound down that we're about to play involving dabo swinney ability data's talking kind of about how often says change over you know. I don't even wanna ruin it for you. Just listen okay so offense offense changes but it doesn't matter because he's got the best quarterback in the sport and he's also got four number one picks receiver and he's also got the running back. Who's faster than anyone else but here's the genius who's running in clemson. Just throw the ball a lot in those days but that there wasn't you didn't have for night. You'd have you know all these games teams in odd tunes and social media. Did you just didn't have that. What what the heck was. I going to do if i went home. What was i going to sit that. They're looking at the wall. Get three channels. You got lawrence welk and he all and and happy days. Doesn't you got <hes> taja. Explain explain it to you later but that's it so you played ball. I mean there really was no just what you did all right. I i mean he sounds like bill snyder. You're referencing lawrence welk and hee haw hold on a second. What was that sound at the beginning of the interview. Was someone coughing sneezing. You just didn't throw that is a bit breathtaking in terms of trying to connect today's athlete. How much does new fangled kids with your mayo l. chat rooms. I don't even know what what does that have to do with boys for davo. What does that have to do with the evolution of offense. What am i missing. Lemon hear the sound here so that i can understand the champion genius a little better every it just just didn't throw the ball a lot in those days but that there wasn't you didn't have fortnight you. Have you know all these games in odd tunes and social media and did you just didn't have that and what would the heck was. I going to do if i went home. What was i gonna do. They sit there. Look at the wall. Get three channels. You got lawrence welk and he all and and happy days. That's what you got. <hes> <hes> taja explain it to you later <hes> but that's it so you played ball. I mean and there really was no just what you did. This is the only guy that could beat eight saving. He's taking television shows from across three decades. Those are three different decades. He's talking about their happy days in which consider yourself fortunate if you never saw and laurence welk am i wrong. Are those not three three different decades. He's referencing on the channels. It was on the chance. I have to do with fortnight. I don't know i guess laurence welk makes you want to pound the football. I'm so looking forward to daboh versus jimbo matchup here on saturday top of the sport dabo versus jimbo so hee haw. I debuted in nineteen nineteen sixty nine nice. Let me check out happy days and lawrence chris lawrence welk is do you know you know the happy abby days. Happy days is all. I know from those so happy days i episode seventy four went through eighty four. Was that love american style. The first episode happy days wasn't known as happy when it premiered it was known as love american style no supplemental information and then it's awesome especially look all those dan surprise gone visa listeners to pay for. He's weakened gets for free ammo. Put it on the poll plays. Did you know that happy days was originally love american style now. The lawrence welk show debuted in one thousand nine hundred fifty five first episode final episode one thousand nine hundred eighty two <hes> however ron okay so maybe dabbled did have it right won. An awful television option grew up around all did as through channels. It's a better time mom used to call you in for dinner. You know what i'm trying to do here. I don't know i think we should call greg cody. At how did you oh explain to people who have not seen hee haw love american style what's his own show and it spun off having which in turn go off laverne and shirley and mike had the wrong. The facts were wrong. They're not so sure about that. That boy donlevatar yanni out of a boo stugatz jaanus out of a boombox. This is our show with stugotz on e._s._p._n. Radio if you want to vote on the polls awesome we're all we will update them in a second at lebatardshow on twitter <hes> roy bellamy is still waiting for his amazon package that he sent for in in an emergency before the hurricane. It's with delivery. I might get it today. Today's to like all right all right. The hurricane has a bearing in on south. The carolinas north carolina airline has <hes> sodas long left whatever it is that <hes> roy needed from amazon and the amazon station he was saying he's just down the street from his home but it has still not gotten to his home. Dwayne wade is someone that ice cube would like in the big. Three's dwayne wade too good to be in the big three joe johns. Yes yes yes that twain. Wait and the bigger the basketball as a brand. Please give them the rub in the n._b._a. Right there you can still play on the team. Is your start your only yeah joe johnson that is god's idea right there. Was somebody else's idea. I'll give you the bigger three the biggest three i'm all for i am told that we have <hes> great sound of bill. Bella check check excited as you've never heard him before for this n._f._l. Season mike is totally confused about how to feel about this n._f._l. Season for the first time in twenty years he's not trying to talk himself into the cleveland brown being good. He's pretty sure they're good yeah. I'm trying to get home and i tell my wife cynthia. I'm like let's relax with to not all the outside that noise. I know there's a lot of expectations out there. Let's just handle the titans week one and he feel because we had barnwell on earlier and he told me the jets are going to be a wildcard team team and he's not the only one i've had plenty of experts. Tell me the same thing and i think they're going to be good and i don't like the feeling of it <hes> cigarettes. We all know week to monday night football. Someone's job is on the line. I put it on the pole. Guillermo at lebatardshow is baker mayfield going to get injured in the second quarter of game one at lebatardshow and while you're at it is flavian bell also gonna get injured in the second quarter of game. What are they going to run into each other and week two and both get at lebatardshow on twitter. What are some of the polls sounds. We'll get to the ballot. Check sound in a second. What's the what's the voting showing the twitter. Paul is brought to you by dollar. Shave club dollarshaveclub delivers z. products. You used a look feel and smell your best right to your door plus with their heads of discount. The more you buy the more you save go to dollarshaveclub dot com slash dad very special offer again at lebatardshow on twitter. Are you going to call them. They sandiego charges for the rest of your life. Ninety five percent of the audience said yes would you trust michigan state if they make it to the playoffs this year ninety five percent of the audience said no sorry sparty mean and i don't understand that rabid fan base being so delusional about what they actually are versus what the country thinks they are and slow brother should n._f._l. Referees are- be allowed to play fantasy football. I voted yes on this. Why not all your corrupt sixty. Four percent of the audience said no does jon gruden live in a world where everyone knows what college danny woodhead went to ninety percent of the audience said yes adron state knock on. Would've you agreement does john gruden's family. Get annoyed with him. Saying man every ten syllables eighty five percent out of the audience said yes is still versus northwestern always ten seven twenty seconds one. Come on show you say shall. We don't come on you know. 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I mean obviously we saw obviously so now. Give him more money than anyone got in running back here. Let me go ring a bell ninety. Five percent of the audience said yes. Would you have liked to see now. Pacino was han solo so bad. I want him. Yes you can't vote yes to that. The audience vote yes to that. It was closed. Fifty four percent of the audience said no. I voted yet just funny. It's terrible. I love you. I own should stick outs. Get credit for breaking the news on the zeke signing seventy three percent of the audience belly said yes that did you know that happy we days was originally called love american style in parentheses it. Was it thank you we got nothing nothing right to that you realize we we spend all these our speaking into microphones and there was barely anything right on today's show we we got the michigan state stuff right and we did. That's the only thing we got right. 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Bad Boys For Life

"Boys boys once you go to do what you GonNa do when we come for you. Welcome to now playing bad boys retrospective series. You with the bad guys weren't Louis hosted by Arnie. Some kind of Action Junkie. I WOULD YOU WANNA call it Stewart. Can you stay focused talking about. I'm focused and Jacob. I'd get up early and I take it to the Max every day came with. Ah So glad you came real. Got Some Shit he's podcast contained detailed boss boilers and harsh language. He took in front of my little boy listener. Discretion is advised. So I want you guys to do whatever you whatever tastes but do it now From it today are bad toys for life. Starring will spiff Martin Lawrence Vanessa Hudgens Alexander Ludwig. Good Way Charles Melton our Nunez Katie del Castillo Nicky Jam. Really did I need to say more names than will Smith and Martin Lawrence L.. Throw this one in and Joe Pantoliano directed by a deal and Balon made the name of Arne. Carlos strike fear into the hearts and minds of podcast listeners. For years to come and Stewart and this is the CO host who would not fuck a witch without a condom Jacob. I can't believe we're back bad boys when we did that. You all AJI. You heard me say there's a chance we could be back like Blair witch. We never thought there'd be a Blair witch three. We could come back but I didn't see it ever happening because I mean Martin. Lawrence is in his fifties. There had been so many false starts arts on this. It was I mean since two thousand eight. This project has been in development. Joe Carnahan almost started filming in like Twenty Twenty Sixteen was going to direct originally. Yeah okay because I was excited. This is name when I looked up the writers of this. I know him from the eighteen. The gray this is a guy who's done movies. I liked but he ended up just working on the script no directing apparently the stars had scheduling conflicts and then Carnahan moved on to greener pastures as has in something that would actually film. Will Smith busy getting painted blue for Aladdin. Probably that's what he went to when it aborted back in two thousand seventeen right before we did the podcast like I said when I was living in California they had blocked off a neighborhood. Remember you say this. Yeah and there were signs up. Bad boys three was shooting is what they told us. I don't know what they shot. I don't know if it's here but it was this urban myth breath that yes sure will smith and Martin Lawrence. We're GONNA make a third one. Here's the problem if you ever had a hit. It's just too tempting now for studios host hungry for franchises for them not to go dig through the crate and Google well. We could play this song again like that. Like seventeen seventeen years is too long to do another installment. It has been seventeen years. I mean a whole generation has been born and grown up in the time between sequels. Normally thinking would be. It's dead you just don't do it but in this day and age. If it ever made money I think anything thing these companies inherit these catalogues and go. Well how do we fix this. How do we make this work? Well this is Sony. They made the original two. And let's face ace it. Sony is putting out a more BS film this summer. That shows. They are desperate for franchises. Yes everyone is hungry to be able to make a a marvel universe like it's not even enough to have sequels you have to have a constant stream of characters in entertainment to fill your whole slate and and so two guys that are Inter Fifties Will Smith. Frankly isn't really a big star anymore. I mean I think Gemini Mankind approved that he definitely isn't bulletproof. I did appreciate bad. Boys for life reboot. The man's franchise were will Smith is GonNA fight his younger self. It is the better jeopardize shepherd I man. I'll say that up but I agree. Stewart Will Smith Gemini Man Latin. I know that made money. It's Disney I don't know maybe good net I didn't see it but he's voicing voicing some bird that's dressing up as human as shy I liked will smith what happened to him. I've never thought he was cool. I appreciate it when he he tried to show range an Ali every now and then but by and large he was mostly a guy with some stick and that stick felt old at this point. And I've liked him in some recent stuff but it's never really hit like if you've seen focus I thought focus was good. I thought it was kind of a return to old will smith but I never went anywhere. I figure the only one. That's why are we romancing old will smith what is so great about the glory days. He's the fresh prince he had A. That wasn't a good show. No I was talking about the rapper. which wasn't a good rap bed? Not a good rapper. Her I mean again I think he did was really good like in the sense of like actually good in your opinion I have every Dj jazzy. Jeff and fresh prince album. I was was listening to them before will Smith was on TV. I remember I cut out a newspaper clip. That had an interview with him at the beginning of fresh prince of bel-air because I never knew do the guy's name and this article labeled him will Smith I cut it out and put it in my. He's the DJ. I'm the rapper CD. So that twenty years from now I could remember the name aim will Smith having no idea that I would for the rest of my life. Remember the name Will Smith. This guy brought a cool and fun. He was funny and could could do action. He was the total package funny. And actually and boy that was short supply in the nineteen nineties. Wasn't it there weren't ninety ninety million guys doing that again. I don't I think you're being the style gic because you were a kid. And he was around yeah. They promoted him but he was a flavor of the Times James. He didn't make anything that was built to. Last is what I would argue. There was nothing that he did that you would go back to and go classic. Summertime the Song Miami. Hi It's amy. The song these things are in constant play those all took samples from classics. But I wouldn't call them classics and Independence Day. Eight men in black one. No you don't like this shit but you don't. Have you ever agree with popular taste. I don't like Independence Day but that is a classic Stewart after concede like Independence Day will be one of those films that go down as one people love. I don't like it Stewart. I know you don't like it but popular opinions from us and people didn't like it when it came own back because it didn't have will spend a picture on the wall just like that men in black international like doesn't help if you just have his face on wall. I don't know if it would have helped that last minute. Black movie either. That was so awful beginning. One could say that the one I also enjoy I just enjoy this level of film. He does there was not a will smith movie. I would not see in theaters until I think shark tale but in your heart of hearts when you think about the work you enjoy them you consume them. You couldn't wait for the next but it was candy. There was nothing about it. That was nutritious. There was nothing thing about what he did. That was good and long lasting. Yeah I got on the record that when he does try to do something needier dramatic role. It never quite works for me. I do like candy with I. Guess again. I record of liking so I thought he was good in. I am legend but again that wasn't a classic I don't think he's made anything. That was great. I can't think of anything that I thought. Were like. Wow what a great actor. What a great movie after Earth? We were nine it all right my point and I'm not trying to throw shade. I'm just trying to say here is someone that has existed through the good graces cases of being popular and now he's not popular. And how do you rekindle that you go back to things like bad boys yet. But here's the thing I don't want to do. Bad boys for life. Listeners have heard what I thought about those I feel like I'm not excited for this part. Three which you can't call it bad boys for life and it'd be a part three. That's problematic there. But I'll put that aside but look doc. The one reason I had to celebrate to have hope for this film is the one thing not returning after seventeen years was Michael Bay new directors yet the fact that these directors are are people. I've never heard of. I didn't see American films on their resume. Made me worried if the studio which eating out and not bringing back the visionary visionary creator of the series. Could this be good. And you're saying that without a tongue-in-cheek. Yeah you want Michael Bay back. I'm thinking this franchise was bay. Smith and Lawrence in equal measure and without a third of that trio made me really worried. I mean haven't haven't you been worried about what Michael Bay has been doing since those deliveries yet. You know what Michael Bay's been doing since I think he didn't show up here because he had a straight to net flicks movie come out last year. Six six underground starring Ryan Reynolds worst movie of the year. Probably I saw cats and I saw the fanatic and I saw serenity but no that's six underground and I don't know if he's actually artistic genius with this oven guard. Editing style. gave me a headache. I sat through it. I made it through but it was awful. I don't want want Michael Bay. He's just still doing Michael Bay thing I don't want it and I think it's questionable whether anyone wants it after that last transformers movie I mean Netflix wanted I guess and admittedly. I haven't liked a lot of what based on but I loved bad boys one and I'd like to see him get back to basics two. I'd like him to recapture some glory days along with Will Smith. Can we talk about the elephant in the room. We're all saying about how we want to get back to the glory days but what happened to Martin you could hire him a traitor for like a month or two just to help out a little I hate to be fat shaming but when I saw him on the poster poster and in that early ad I thought there was no chance that this could work because it signaled to me. He really was doing for the paycheck. He wasn't committed to doing this. He didn't even want to be on camera and he just needed the money. It screamed in neon letters cash. Grab I thought like maybe they would write it into the story. It will not be mentioned in this movie. There's one reference to him getting fat. I'm like he's already fat. He's not GONNA get. Yeah the last time I I saw him in anything in. I paid attention. I mean the last movie I saw him in that was made was wild hogs. Wow evatt note seven. Why did you see that? I hate watched it on. HBO That would be the only way I could watch it. Was it worth it as someone that I love bad movies. I'm afraid of that one. Yeah it wasn't funny bad. It was just bad bad but it had such an a list. CAST William H macy. Tim Allen Yeah I wanted to see those people and see if it was really the debacle I feared and but the last movie I knew of that he did in theaters was was big. Mama's like father like son. Why is that like number seven three? Okay I had no idea. I don't recognize that subtitle. The I believe he dressed. Rest Up. Brea Carey's husband as some that also needed to put on prosthetics and address. I looked it up. He did a guest spot on a TV series. I I haven't heard of called partners. He did ten episodes of that coincidentally named Marcus K.. And then apparently last year he was in that Matthew mcconaughey movie I did not see the beach bum briefly. I saw that movie. It was a freak show and he was one of the freaks but yes he dropped out of public life. We discussed a lot his problems when we reviewed bad boys two and I just think he doesn't need to work. I think he's kind of the Chris Tucker situation. He doesn't need to work and after the gun incidents on the highway. Maybe not a lot of people wanNA work with them. After seventeen years I mean shit after after four years for Spiderman. Go well maybe we should recast. I would think that if you were rebooting this franchise you might think. Let's have it be will Smith and Martin Martin Lawrence is kids like you wouldn't even use these actors. They do that. They set the next one up for that Stewart. Yeah no I think. In the end they made eight a compromise they fully recognized they needed to quote unquote remix. And we need to get young blood into this but they weren't ready like a lot of franchises. We saw with Halloween. Lean and star wars. We need to have the old folks at least have a respectable goodbye and this is the twenty fifth anniversary of the first one. You keep mentioning seventeen seventeen years but I think that coming out on the twenty fifth anniversary while that is a hell of a long time. It's good to come out and you know because of cable and video and streaming these movies don't become less popular they don't fade into people's minds. I thought it would. I thought this this movie was probably GonNa tank coming out in the middle of January that usually of really bad sign no name directors. I couldn't believe my showing was sold out. I had somebody share in the fricken. Love seat with me. Yeah I went to a Friday night showing for this and when I bought my ticket the theater was pretty sold out and when I got there like I always talked about It's sold out those fronts. You rose full. But it's more or less on those front rows full for my viewing it was sold out. Sold out yeah the movie. That's flopping this weekend is doolittle Ironman. Can't pack them in. But these guys have a hit early tracking is showing. They're are GonNa win the weekend with big numbers and yeah I mean we might as well just go ahead and say it this is going to have a sequel this popular enough that they will be making more of these the only reason they might not is. I do think getting Martin Lawrence just to commit to something is tricky. Oh He's going to be a cameo moving forward word like they set that up. I don't think so. I mean we'll talk about it but at the end of this movie. He's back on the forest bad boys for life. I think this'll be lethal weapon. You know bad ed boys for life. We're going to see them out there in their seventies. Yeah see I got more of a fast and furious five. I think that franchise is adn effect on all. Yeah talk about a team and I wonder if that team's GONNA show back up like that does feel like an extension of the bad boys and it you know it's just that team that we get in those fast and furious films. They're going for that dynamic. Democ the credit stinger just screamed fast and furious to me. I could not believe I'm like so. Are they going to Tokyo drift. After this are they going to cross over yeah early on and the theme of this movie family is what matters family family. I mean there are lines of dialogue. That should be coming out of in diesels easels mouth that have been given to two guys that were Roque and would never have thought in their earlier days of sharing the credit with some youngsters stirs from the Disney Channel. But that is where they're at now and it appears to be working. I agree I saw this as well and a pretty crowded theater. I Max showing opening day. People were noisy. They were happy they let everyone know how much good time they had. Yeah I should add that. I went on a Thursday the first I showing which is now no longer. The seven o'clock show. It's a four o'clock show. I noticed. Yeah this one started playing earlier on Thursday most people that four. PM The Are At work or just getting off school. It was an older crowd. I noticed that that I was among the younger people there but yes they were engaged. They were laughing. They were clapping. Whatever I this movie? It is a crowd pleaser now. Yep I was surprised that this wasn't being treated like okay boomer. Here's your last Hurrah. Like this seems to be something. All generations came out out for and what and it's incredible because I can't remember if this was on error offer but Stewart I remember you and joking. There's no way this could be good right having coming from the trailer and so again January. I just expected this to tank. Yeah at January released. Even the studio doesn't have faith in it. Right did was put out at Christmas time. It doesn't signify bad anymore. They still want to put up big movies around in January and February. But it means they're uncertain about how big a reach they have. Let's face it. Do Little didn't come out at Christmas for he's right and this movie. I mean it's the big expensive movie but it has a rather modest price tag for this kind of thing. I think it's under one hundred million dollars. Nine hundred ninety five. They were hedging their bets. They were willing to let these bad boys have another play but they weren't going to give them everything. And do we know anything about these new directors these one name to directors that came to takeover this franchise like their new guys right. I had seen their work and didn't realize it. They directed the pilot to snowfall which is an FX series about dealing crack in the eighties. As it has a vibe not dissimilar from the Miami Drug Culture of Miami Vice but it set in southern California it was flashy it was well put put together. I wasn't looking at as a showcase for directors I was mostly to seeing. Do I wanNA watch a whole season of this and I decided no but it wasn't bad ad and they seem to have had a breakout a couple years ago with a little film called Gangsta which as the title would imply is some kind of gang culture movie. I'd never heard of them nabbed. You telling me they did a pilot that was similar to this. It kind of makes sense because I look at what Marvel's doing they recruit TV directors all the time. Be a game of thrones or community was their most successful poaching. They found these people doing community. And we're like those are the ones that take over the franchise from Joss Weeden eaten and it worked so if they did TV I might have had a little bit more hope going in but yet they're no Michael Bay I mean they had done some some TV. They had also done some music videos. That's always a training ground. If you have a flashy look Wiz Khalifa. I think they'd worked with him and they definitely stick some musical all stars unnecessarily into this talking about TJ. And why he's here and Vanessa hudgens musical star. She's had several hit albums really. Yeah I know her mostly from high school musical but yes the point is they have populated this with people that that have some kind of credit with Gen. Y Gen Z.. Kids that are listening to stuff that I don't know about and they had a single release to. Dj Khalid wasn't just here. As a star he was the executive producer of the soundtrack and brought in black-eyed peas. ooh ooh and several others including pit bull who I like. Woo Hoo yeah. I don't know if these are like gets their names. I recognize but I don't know if you have to have a musician like endorse endorse capture. I'm I'm sure you know. They're willing to sell the rights for their songs. Dilute movie have any of those songs that he interrupt the flow to scream his name. Give out like yeah. If you're making a movie set in Miami. These are exactly the people that you would call Pitt Bull. I mean like you don't have to be a musical genius. Assembled at this team but I was actually surprised because this feels like will smith on the comeback trail. Of course I feel like he's tried that several times because I felt like suicide squad was an attempt. He's not on the soundtrack so he's not fully coming back musical side of wrapping over the end credits. That's what I'm saying. I thought we might get a will Smith Song. I think he's actually afraid not being able to live up to the success. I heard his last album. That came out a decade decade ago. Now it had a totally different sound and felt like he was trying to keep up with eminem and be a little hardcore and drop the bass and it was not as poppy be and fun and he has teased on instagram. He does a lot of instagram videos and he teased on instagram. That he was back in the studio working on music. But I have the feeling it's going to be like prince or something. He's going to have all these tracks compiled that his family will release for money after he's dead but he's never gonNA feel confident enough about to to actually release. I can understand that hesitation and he's no more scared than I am of him coming back. I would hate that. That would be awful but and here. I am hungry angry for another will smith hit. Yes this is one of our many differences in taste that's why we have different perspectives on the show. I don't know that could be any further reports on Wilson. I feel like we're trump or Bernie here with our thoughts on will Smith. I mean I liked him when my parents couldn't understand understand me in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight nine hundred eighty nine but I willing to let that go. I mean you say I was a kid. I was thirty during his heyday. No during the end of his heyday as a singer. No as an actor okay. Everybody you were a child and Miami. I was in my late twenties around around that time. Keep holding on to that was like a one off that mostly used cool live magangue again. I don't give them any credit for sampling. Good Song and nod your head. Ed and we're men in black and even wild wild west was a great song for a shitty movie and sample from stevie wonder but moving one. That's what wrap does on. No it doesn't actually. It does not. That's what he did. I actually thought this movie had here comes the hotstepper in there with a sample of land of a thousand dances. There's somebody else on the soundtrack. Just simple land thousand dances. Now let's get into this remix. Arnie give them the plot. We'll find out if these bad boys are for life a lot. The time has passed for our bad boys who as their police captain says aren't boys anymore. Detective Marcus Burnett played by Martin. Lawrence is a Granddad but detective. Give Mike lowry played by not so fresh. Prince Will Smith won't let go of his youth refusing to settle down or even think about pulling back on his aggressive cop ways but the past is coming for Mike. I'll black. Magic witch named Isabel Eras has escaped from a Mexican prison and sent her son. Are Mondo to Miami. See for revenge on the people who killed her husband and put her in prison. One of those cops was Mike and Armando puts five bullets in the COP. Six months later Mike is out of the hospital title after nearly dying and he's anxious to get revenge on the man who shot him but the case is assigned to the new AMMO division advanced. Miami Metro operations led by Mike's old girlfriend Rita and Mike feels alone because Marcus has retired. Mike works both with and against AMMO. His bad boy tactics clashing with their advanced. Winston less lethal tactical methods. They investigate the crime through various leads until it leads them to Armando along the way. Marcus has pulled back into the case. Ace but when the captain is killed by Armando Marcus decides for one last ride and then Mike Reviews are Mondo is his son. Twenty four four years earlier Mike was in deep cover infiltrating a crime ring and he fell in love with the crime. Lord's wife they were even going to run away together. Like that movie Miami Miami Vice but it turned out. The wife was homicidal and a witch so mike put her in jail not knowing she was pregnant with his baby she may not actually be a real witch but they yes. I get what you're saying. I'm glad they made her a witch because the first time we see her like uttering a spell yeah can't range she's cutting up chicken. She hangs out in an altar. I know it's crazy. Picking a crossover with ghostbusters. Or something. Come on when she's moving around photos photos of dead. People like Tarot cards are they saying. She's a witch and then they just come out and say it. She superstitious Marcus and Mike go to Mexico City ready for one last showdown with Mike prepared to put a bullet in his son's head and AMMO breaks protocol to back them up. A major shootout occurs but at the last minute Mike realizes he can't kill his own son Armando had no idea. Mike was his dad and when he gets this news he no longer wants to kill the Miami cop realizing he'd been lied to about his reason for vengeance. Rita it kills Isabel in self defense and Mike Marcus and am overturned. TAMIAMI ARMATO has to go to jail for his crimes which is multiple homicides in addition who everything else not minor trafficking or anything. He's a cop killer yes but mike still reconnect with his son and Marcus comes out of retirement because he and Mike are bad boys for life as credits roll to a brief scene of Mike visiting our Mondo in jail and saying if he does bad boys for the young man pay down some of his jail time as credits finish rolling and as things start it says if no time has passed it all Miami is the playground for these two cops one. That doesn't like fast driving and one that cares nothing about collateral damage or destroying property day during live driving off the road into beat beat sand. We're not just black. We're cops I enjoy like all this stunt work going on with the car. I'm assuming there's there's a lot of practical stuff here they couldn't afford the CGI on under under a hundred million. We're supposed to think though that they were being chased. Because I actually guessed I'm like oh one of them's having a baby or something they're rushing to that. I think they try to play it. Like they're being chased by the cops but they never pull a bruise on me. Yeah Barca's answers the phone and says in four minutes so like that to me is telegraph. That someone's in labor. Yeah the fact that they have a police escort going with them and that we never see who they're chasing if this was a car chase if they were going after criminals we would see the the criminals. Do some crazy turns and then Mike following in his Porsche. I was actually wondering if they were trying to tell us that the cops were chasing Marcus and Mike. I JUST WANNA. Let's say if you're getting a police escort you should let them lead. You shouldn't be dry. Just had them closing down the roads and then you can go not use swerving in front of the city Liebus and then the boat jumping over to keep up with you. Yeah if you're taking detours on the sand and driving backwards. It's probably taking you longer to get into the hospital. Aw I'm thinking you should have been there earlier this is a contrived old school scenario anyway. Most people know exactly when they're having the baby and there is no running to the hospital bit at all. No you schedule this now. It's almost always induced. The doctors prefer it that way because they don't have to get up in the middle of the night. Yeah sorry Ricky Lake. I know there is some controversy about that decision but again this just all seems like just a way of giving us over the top very silly annoying action from people. All that are working about having a good time than saving lot but I did figure out they were going to see a birth. I thought it might be Marcus's kid. I forgot how old they were. I didn't realize he was going to be a pop pop. It was in the trailer but it got me in the trailer. It got me here when they do get out of that car. And of course Marcus is GonNa hit that door on the fire hydrants. Adrian scuff up MICS portion. It's funny it sets off. What's different between these? Buddy cops ones the Goofy Fat Dad and one is still trying to be the single young I I feel that they are smart to play up their greatest hits in certain ways it has been twenty five years since their greatest hits and they are going to remind us who they are. They haven't changed. They've grown older but Mike is still enjoying driving fast and Marcus Still Klutz. Who's going to spill in his car? And I don't know why after so many years you'd still marcus in your poor. She screwed up every one of them but I guess having a baby is a good reason to do that. You're saying the greatest. It was twenty five years ago. The audience I was with when Reggie showed up is that Reggie like from that kind of offensive scene where they like threatened them up and kill him when when he's going to date Marcus's daughter like he's back and people recognize them people were like laughing Karachi. They were excited to see. Reggie I guess I recognized him. I mean that slack jawed blank stare. He's like missing his lower jaw. It's like nobody could replace. Reggie you don't recast Reggie you get Reggie back. Yeah and the same person who played Marcus's daughter in bad boys two not the same as bad boys one. But you got back Reggie and the daughter dating eating Reggie from bad boys two. I did not go back to. I'd never will go back to watch bad boys or bad way to. Oh No. I didn't watch him either Stewart. I don't remember anything about them. I didn't listen to our shows. My thoughts I thought he would help this movie if I could forget everything but something did come back when I saw this guy in the marines outfit being very respectful. I seem to remember a bit. Where yeah like? They really punked him and I remember feeling like it played awful to me. Yeah and I didn't go back either. I just remember all of this because I'd seen those films just what we've reviewed about three years ago. I just knew them very very well. I was surprised I could recall as much from bad boys two as I did but I thought about rewatching and I'm like I don't need to. I know everything so I was actually really happy to see the continuity to see Reggie comeback. You didn't have to do it. I was glad you did but this movie tries and repeatedly fails to trick me. The second scene in this movie pulls out Hannibal Lecter Moment and it didn't fool me either. We go to a Mexican prison and see this woman doing laundry laundry and the guard goes over to see what she's doing. She's chanting some incantation and then cuts the throat of the prison guard. EMT's EMT's come in. I'm like they're not taking the prison guard out there taking the prisoner out because this is this prison break. This is how you get out. Yeah when you see that guard it approaching the washing machine. I'm like okay. That's where they put the actual body that whoever stabbed her escaped people were shocked in the. WHOA I thought it was awfully telegraphed oft surprised? You guys could figure it out because they're telling you at the same time that they're setting it up like this movie is cut in such a way that like slash body drops ops cut to ambulance cutback to a washing machine. I would say ten seconds at most. Yes this is a wonderful sequence in silence of the lambs. They fooled everybody and was a real stunner. They don't play it like that here. They play it as shorthand. Let's get through this really fast. The details aren't really really that important. We just want to set up. The fact that are villainous is one bad mama and I think that works. What comes across here is that this woman is Super Super Spooky? Because I was prepared for how mercilessly she would kill everyone in her path. And that is the shock. Yeah all the violence in this film. There are some extreme meditation. Tracing going on with knives and forklifts and lots of blood. But I agree stuart this intro to Isabel Mike. Oh she is bad asked scariest various fuck yet and it is a shame that she is not the main bad guy. When I son shows up on my mind is the Sun GonNa do this? I saw what Isabel did now. He's going to get a scene that shows this. He's pretty capable with knives too. But I was like so honor aside from this intro. Even though I could see what the tricks they were doing because like okay. Yeah this feels edgier than what they did before. I'd like this feels like someone more dangerous than they were fighting before. And I think you have to crack the director for this. There is something to their style. It feels like it is a foreign film I was I was thinking of city of God or something like that. The way they've shot this the color scheme it does not feel like the Bay universe at all if the Bay universe I feel like we would be ogling ogling female bodies it would be much more of a sexy advertisement for Miami and here I really feel like they make Miami and Mexico. Theo like Third World Dystopia of violence and fear. Yeah and the fact that Isabella killed that guard so quickly but her son are Mondo is even faster. astrum she gives them coordinates and says your father hit a bunch of money. Here's the coordinates. I thought that would be the macguffin of the movie like the entire movie. Yeah the whole thing was to get that money yes exactly instead. He has the money in the very next scene. Whoever helped him get? It's GonNa rip off and this guy is like fire. Ezra Miller this guy's your flash because he kills so many people so quickly before they can even react they don't even know he's killing them them before he's killed five of them so I think he is very effective muscle here and again not crediting the actor. I'm crediting the editor. This may be the most quickly cut movie I've ever seen like the just. Oh No no you way. They're processing all this and I don't mean to make that sound like an insult I'm an. MTV Lead Generation. I can handle rapid montage but this movie really is not wanting to spend a lot of time deliberating on story like let's just cut cut cut cut cut cut. I feel the opposite because this isn't Michael. Michael Bay cuts like every quarter of a second is insane to watch his editing. It causes headaches seizures. Here's it's bad for your health here. At one time there's some characters talking and the camera swings around and follows them and I'm like Holy Shit. We have a moving camera in what I think. Think of as a Michael Bay Franchise Film and this scene has gone on for more than five seconds. This movie does move in. They get the information out there. But if you've paid attention to Michael as editing it is not that kind of quick. It's an effective quick. Cut type of editing here. I have to argue with what you said. Michael Bay does a lot of camera movements this movie we will actually recreate the Slo Mo swooping camera off too. That's like saying the force be with you. You're not gonNA leave that out of a star wars movie you after. Have that shot in a bad boys Phil. But I'll agree with you in this. I can't recall in either of the previous bad boys. Films them sitting down and having a conversation every every bit of dialogue was espoused in a car chase or while screaming at each other. But you're going to get at the celebration of Marcus's grandkids these to sitting down and actually having a calm conversation for several minutes. Yeah you're right. Michael Bay would never tolerate that. The only time you would spend time with the character is that they were gonna make silly juvenile jokes and there's some of that here there's talk about dying go teas and what have you but by and large this is Gary used the word character-driven it is. That is the shock Stewart. I feel like we're trying to get to know these cartoons Martin's in a way that was never considered. I can't believe that this movie has themes all my complaints from the previous to like. I don't like will Smith's character. He needs to calm down. Everyone's telling them that in this film they're like yeah. You're kind of unlikable why don't you chill yes like they have themes in character development. I couldn't believe I was shocked that it plays all the way through. And it's not deep. It's not great it's there though Yeah it's formula and it's the kind of thing you would see a lot in buddy cop movies but you'd never see it in a Michael Bay Buddy cop movie and the fact that Will Smith and Martin Lawrence are getting a chance to do it after we thought we knew everything about them is a revelation I'd religion to our podcasts and I knew what I thought of movies but I was really refreshed by what you guys had said refresh my memory emory not as in I liked what you guys said we get like. Yeah you still gonNA stand by those films The first one and here. I'm watching this this after listening and I'm like everything. They said about the violence about police brutality. It's like this movie is addressing that as like the people who wrote this and directed this had the same complaint you guys dead and I was equally shocked Jacob when I realized I noticed early on Marcus had a grandkid. Our Villain has Assan John. I'm like okay this is about parentage. This is about legacy Marcus's telling Mike you don't have kids. You need to settle down. Why don't you get with Rita? You guys that have great kids together. I'm like okay this is about legacy and parentage and it's right there at the beginning I had no idea how well they'd had follow it through although got a call this movie out. It's kind of fucked up on the timeline because during the toast marcus says he and Mike have been cleaning cleaning up Miami streets for twenty five years. So that's how long it's been since the first movie right. But then he later says I've been married to Teresa for twenty. Six years ears with their kids were more than one year old. Now maybe they had the kids out of wedlock and they then got married one year before the first bad boys film but that it seems like they may have been married thirty years or something then two thirds of the way through the movie. Mike is GonNa say twenty. Four years ago I was in the academy and I was pulled out out of the academy to go under deep cover. Wait twenty five years ago you were cleaned up Miami. I'm really fucking views. I WANNA point out that yes joe. Carnahan wrote descript but to other people are also credited. Yeah there's a lot of writing credits. I guess what there are probably other people that work on this. That don't even get credit so yeah it's a bike committee script. It obviously went through many years of thinking and rethinking. What they were going to do and script supervisor obviously didn't do their job? Because so these details don't sync up and I do think there's some vanity at play with the actors as you mentioned Stewart. They're not going to comment on Martin. Lawrence's Lawrence's wait. which in the previous movies Bay would not let that go? I Mean Bay will mark every physical attributes. Oh there would have been a whole five minute comedy scene about it. Yeah he did a grocery store in like he turned around and his ass would knock some beans off the shelves hilarious. Yeah I mean you guys were complaining about the fat shaving of the daughter Autre in part to which I didn't even think it was fat shaming. Imagine what they would have done here. I'm thinking Martin Lawrence probably didn't want it brought up Martin. Lawrence was uncomfortable with it. I wonder if in the script markers might have said. I was married thirty six years ago and Mike said when I was in the force thirty years ago. And both of these guys are like we're going to address that we're older. We're going to actually show. Mike have some gray in his beard and he really is dying it. We're going to address it. But but much like William Shatner in Star Trek to where he's like it could be my birthday and I'm getting old but we cannot say. It's my fiftieth birthday or refused to allow it to be fifty. I I think here maybe the actors on the day of filming were like I'm going to reduce this number. I don't WanNa be that old. Yeah I get that and I think they're right to be self conscious just about that. It's really really old to have these people be the star of a movie not unheard of. I mean we. We've had a lot of movies but arnold is not the hit that he was Supplies not the hit that he was and yeah if they're trying to resell us to a new generation you might wanna down play of how old they actually are for or selling these heroes. We want them to be thought of as middle aged and on the lower end of that but in this scene where they're talking about the kids we're also introduced to Rita Pita who's going to be a competent female police officer in the bad boys series and heading up the new ammo division advanced Miami a metro operations and this is also another theme that I think all movies have to deal with these days. Bad Boys Aren't as cute as they used to be right. We don't like bad male behavior. We like to see women in power. We like to see women have authority and not have that challenged. They're going to play with that. A little booth tween Greensmith and her but not quite go hold o and po but they definitely don't want to give free rein to bad boys being able to do whatever they want and thinking that's acceptable. I don't have a problem with bad boys. I don't feel like bad boys are synonymous with misogyny. I feel like Michael Bay might be synonymous with misogyny but bad batboys in general Lake Mel Gibson in lethal weapon film very misogynist again how they treated that women therapist was awful all well just because they treat one woman doesn't mean they treat all women bad Rene Russo. That was a correction added later. There was a lot of Misogyny to the way all women were presented as Sir my naked coked up hookers that must die. There was a lot of disposability to female characters except Danny Glover's wife and daughter. I mean I've felt like they were pretty important. Yeah unless you're going to conform to these kind of normative. Yes then you're awful like unless you're going to get married and live in the suburbs your awful because you're a woman you're coked up or I'm just saying I'm not feeling general bad boy behavior and cops being aggressive and things things are so out of date that you couldn't do it in a movie in Twenty Twenty I don't think you can have cops going around doing casual brutality. Like these two have done before. Yeah I agree. The way that they start is not the way they're going to be for the rest of this movie and this movie is going to adjust their behavior so that it fits with the times times and it starts with the humbling of Superman. Well Smith Jokingly Challenges Marcus to a race where he's like. I know I can beat you but if you win will retire if I win bad boys for life and I was shocked to. I mean I knew he wasn't going to die. I'd seen the trailers and you don't start this movie by killing. Will Smith Twenty five minutes into it. It's not being directed by David Fincher Avenue. I am shocked that he lives like we'll. Let's see those bullets three shots. I think square in the chest. He's got a good surgeon. Yes and this is like I've never heard so much about ammunition and like like it's a key nine nine hersal machine-gun custom-made bullet. Yeah all I know is that gun. Looks like it would kill you if you pointed it at somewhere doesn't even and have to fire like that's just death this death that's coming on a motorcycle and yeah it takes him out for six months and it makes Marcus make again often. Do you hear characters make a deal with God faith and all of that in a body action comedy and the fact that he says that he hadn't gone to the church because he was ashamed of the things they done. He was ashamed of the people they killed. They were bad guys but he felt like it had damaged edged his relationship with God that is really a commentary on what Bay did in those first two films and I do think some of this is credit there may be all of it for this plot. Point goes to Carnahan because if you've seen the ATP goes through a similar thing where he decides to become a pacifist ultimately these these are action films and we're going to revel in the violence in the blood spurt and all that but not expecting a perfect world where we push pacifist efforts before pulling out guns and shooting everyone but it's incremental we get some head nods towards. Yeah maybe violence isn't the right answer right away. Maybe we should try some other things so I like that. This is a theme throughout this film. I'm with Marcus. Yep He made a deal with God that if Mike Lives that he's GonNa Square off violence and we're going to see them struggle at that he's GonNa pull that trigger a number of times but at least can address the problem with cops and extreme violence. Yeah I mean there are yellow traffic lights and movies like this. It's always green. Go do it. Don't ask more questions questions. Ethics are for sissies we don't care about that blow it all up and here. There are yellow lights that give characters pause as they're going to do that distraction. They're never gonNA to stop doing it. But it gives pause and I have to at least appreciate that effort but they don't fool me again because we see Mike in the hospital. We see Marcus talking into God. We see Marcus pudding that die in his beard. Oko being or whatever color it was a joke. Yeah it was a nice call back putting a little levity in this and then they cut to marcus crying slow Mo and a priest going. The family really appreciate you being here. I'm like this is a wedding. This is Marcus's daughter's wedding. It looked like a wedding. Yeah they dropped align. You've still have to make an honest woman of her Reggie and I'm like they're not fooling me. They did not kill Mike and sure enough. Mike is there dressed to the nines in a wheelchair. And so is Michael Bay. Yeah it's not just Mike Michael. Bay's there air for a cameo. ooh I was upset. I didn't think I knew what Michael Bay looked like. I didn't think Michael Bay came to my door as a Jehovah's witness that I would know it was Michael Bay. Hey but he's up there on screen and I think that's Michael Bay. I guess you'd never obsessively watched club introducing that Samson carry. TV Like I did CPS years ago go like that is one of my favorite glimpse just walks off the stage. Because he can't read the teleprompter. Yeah do it right. I mean you didn't have to do it. But usually series like make nods to people that had originated if they're not going to be a part of it and he shows up here as a wedding guest feels like the proper acknowledgement to his role. Well is he taking money for this. He's probably still getting producer credit. I didn't see him on the producer. Line we'll Swiss got a producer credit. Keep in mind. He didn't write the original script. Either it was a SPEC script ripped remember bulletproof arts and he just came in to direct it. I wouldn't think he has ownership of these characters. Oh I'm not saying ownership. I just thought that maybe usually you uh hold onto something as long as it's you know you're squeezing it for every last dime but it was his beginning as well as worth being reminded of the fact that Michael Bay at that point wasn't Michael Michael Bay yet. When he made bad boys he was just another hack music video director and he goes up and he says to the band but I feel like saying to the new directors? You're doing a real. Oh good job. I'm like yeah. This is passing the torch moment and. I don't think they had to do it because I didn't think I knew what Michael Bay looked like. Nobody in my audience and again very vocal audience. Nobody applauded or who did that. Michael Bay was on screen. How did he know Stanley? No Yeah agreed. It passed as quickly as everything the thing does in this movie again the Attic and basically all that we really understand is that okay now mike is fine and he wants to find his killer and end the killer of all these other people what we've seen in montage at the same time didn't stop with Mike. In fact he got it out of order. Momma is a little but mad she wanted will smith to see all the other people die and then he was to get shot. I'm not sure why Mondo went after Mike I he. She says that Mike was the only one who was dangerous to them. Everybody else they were going to be fine with. I don't worry about a judge getting semiautomatic and coming afternoon. Yeah that's true. Yeah the prosecutor to the case. It's basically everyone that put his father away and they make a big point of saying that are Mondo had this father. That is dead another fuck up on time. The have the news and say forensic investigator Dr Jack Webber a twenty year veteran. Wait twenty four years ago was what's going on. What was he doing for years later to put this guy in jail? You're really paying a Lotta an attention to this Ernie fair point. But I don't know if anyone's paying attention to the date my concern was this forensic investigator I got a brother. WHO's in forensics? He's not living on yachts with multiple women. Keys like this guy. I think he wasn't little crooked like he probably deserves to be shot. It looked like a Michael Bay kind of reference to somebody who was taking payola in on it and being betrayed for the crime not not that he was a good forensic investigator did his job. And this is retribution for it and I think that's a way of making us all. This is really heavy that all these people are dead. They may have had coming to them. They may have been a little crooked. We didn't really get to know them. They weren't from the previous movies. Where they I don't I don't remember ever seeing these people before and it passes by so quick? The point gene is that Mike knew them and he would know very well why they were all assassinated by this lone gunman on a motorcycle. No he didn't. He's like we did twenty five cases aces with all these people. There's so many cases he worked with that drudge and those forensic investigators that he even when he's out of the coma is like there's too many and the point was that Mamma wanted him to know that it was them because she wanted to make a point she wanted him to know he just didn't yeah. She counted on him being ignore aware of their history than apparently he. What well there's just so many cases when it goes to AMMO and they have this tech guy and he cross-references and there's like I don't know there's so many cases? There's no way to know what's going on. Yeah that sounds like a rewrite that he only did this once he was already partnered by this point with Marcus. This happened twenty four years ago but he wasn't partnered with Marcus he was still in the Cabbie. Okay we're letting go leading onto that go for reasons. That are obvious. It's an action. Movie people have died side. The hero wants to get revenge and so he's going to his captain and saying let me loose. I don't think he's even asking to be put on the team. The captain's GonNa put him on Ammo as a way of putting him on a leash but he would rather just go out there and be a DJ college. Get the answers by tender rising people's hands with Marcus. He wants him and Marcus to be assigned to the case. I'm glad they have joey pants back. I Love Joy Hansen. The previous films. It has been seventeen years though. Because he's looking old. Yeah he is says he's older than either of them and he's right in saying you do not get to investigate your own attempted murder. That is an ethical breach internal investigation. Gatien will be up my ass but Mike give it to me and Marcus. Have you talked to your partner. Turns out Marcus. He's not pulling a Danny Glover. He's not pulling. This is my last case. I'm going to retire. He fucking retired. Yeah I liked that decision. I'd like that. They're giving some weight and consideration to the fact that he made a deal with. God I mean I said no more violence and I'm going to live for that for act two for act two. I'm going to sit in the recliner. They have a funny juxtaposition montage Taj where one is getting their gun one's getting a Burrito as a microwave. I love when Mike is putting on that like five thousand dollars. Silk Jacket and we cut to march is putting on like cotton rope from target. Yes Stewart when you say funny I do. You really mean that because I did think this was funny. I think this is an approved. Like we're not gonNA have the gay panic. Nick jokes all that bay. Humor is gone and not that this is great humor here but it's amusing. I like the juxtaposition as they both get ready for their day and one in retirement and wants trying to solve this case. It's clever clever enough. I mean there might be a little bit. Because they don't have enough Martin Lawrence if you're truly not going to be in the movie for for a while like they give him maybe a little bit too much of salsa dancing to a TV show and fixing a ceiling fan that blows up. There might be a little too much of it but yeah it's funny. That was is a setup because early on when he's talking about retirement will Smith said theres's not GonNa want you laying around the house getting fat and breaking Shit here he is. He's breaking a ceiling fan not going to reference this weight but he's got a Burrito. Let's ceiling fan. Had the wires hanging out though. I don't know how much he broke it. Yeah so that's that's kind of what he'll be doing while we see will smith working with the new kids with ammo and this is extra poignant because Rita who again we never met her reich like she wasn't a girlfriend in bad boy still not only. Haven't we seen Rita. I have no idea who Paola Nunez is. I had to look her up of like she was in the purge urge TV series on USA. So I guess I've seen her but primarily. She has done Spanish movies and television. Yeah that's a joke. It's also true of Isabel is that they come from Telenovelas at one point Martin. Lawrence is watching a Telenovela with his mother-in-law. However Kate del Castillo you know she's the one who set up? Sean Penn with El Chapo Right. She has like this relationship with Al Real Life. This isn't a movie you're talking about. Yes in real life. El Chapo was like a fan of hers and they had a communication which allowed Sean Penn through Kate Day Stevo to meet El Chapo and interview him. I didn't realize that but I've now I'm the face you're connecting things for me. That is right because I've seen some of that interviews and I've seen her in that context I didn't realize what a funny connection. She privately has some firsthand method acting experience in studying heavies and killers. Then yeah. It's as on the nose IOS casting as pudding woody Harrelson in natural born killers after his dad possibly was involved in Kennedy. I'm like so she really was in some way at least a one way. Romantic mantech relationship with a cartel Hort. So why don't we think of AMMO. I like the AMMO. You get door. And he's big tough guy but he's the techie like they're trying to go against against those types. This should be your action star but he was a bouncer. Once I get back stories about people. NOT THAT THEY'RE DIV at their great but that their actual characters that they've thought a little bit about and have their own little subplots. Yeah the biggest buffets guy they have on the team doesn't WanNa get violent and actually is saying. I need therapy when he he actually has to kill people. Feels like some kind of twenty-first-century rethink on the action drama. And that's what I was talking about Arne with like you can't be bad boys anymore. You have to to be smarter at felt to me like a fast and furious thing like they got crew together of various types one of whom will need therapy the others of whom won't I liked dorm. You know it was a nice thing. After the previous bad boy films where they brought in that seven foot geek to be there techy to see somebody buff and see that techies can be of all types. I liked Kelly Vanessa Hudgens I loved her and spring breakers. Although I can't remember which one of the four girls was she yeah. She was in a bikini and she smiled a lot. No doubt I liked everybody in spring breakers and she was one of them. The only one I didn't like was Rafe. That guy was just too smarmy and when he's introduced mike he calls a Michael. And Mike's like there's always one he's he's like yeah and that's me and again. I thought they were trying to re contextualised stereotype. I don't know if he said he was gay. He kind of had that vibe. But he's he's the tough guy he's the one that wants to be doing all the action he wants to be the bad boy and again I liked their shuffling. The deck around giving characters types two different body builds builds different sexual orientations all that because. Yeah it doesn't need to always be the same. Did you just assume his orientation did I. I'm just trying to read the. Are they trying to do something with that. I don't have a problem with a tough asking. Sexual action started. So if that's what they're going far I don't either if he's actually gay but he kind has cosies up to a couple of hotties at club later on. I don't think he's gay. Yeah I don't know I got that vibe just from the club scene basically what he does is he gives attitude to Mike that makes Mike say something to the effect of. I fuck your mother so in that means we think of it as a joke. But it's actually really setting up that whole parenting theme they're floating. It's never far from Mike. Mine the idea of legacy and the fact that Marcus has this grandkid and he has no family and I thought it was a really subtle but clever way of keeping that in the context of Buddy Cop joke formula. He's having thank already about what it would be to have this unruly son. I also liked the commentary on today's time I'm not sure that they even get it right. But are Mondo is so pissed that makes alive. He had a GOPRO and building news on shooting of Mike and Releases it to the dark web where it's gone viral viral and all the ammo guys are watching it. No you just posted on four Chan which they actually are bothering in this movie. That confused me. 'cause I didn't see that did anything for them. Like why why it was just a Piss Mike off more okay. So it makes them run faster on the treadmill or whatever I thought it was more telling when dealing with tech that they're going to send the drone in this is is going to make Mike Very Mad. He's allowed to consult. He's like let's go on a raid. We're like no. We're going on a surveillance and that means the drone goes to look at the suspect. Act Stewart you mock these very specific bullets but thank goodness. They're extremely specific. And they name the brand and the cut and the millimeter because they know exactly who selling them. I'm an able to take that drone to go spy on them right and so I get it sets up this conflict. Where of course we as an audience wants to see? Mike be Mike we what Mike to blow in there by himself and shoot up all these guys and figure out the case and save his man I none of it will go that way. I Imagine Agean. That law enforcement are using drones for surveillance like this but I would like to think if I was in a room and a drone was flying around. I'd here I see it. Oh they're gonNA raise like giant metal roller door. And no one's GONNA turn around like all these gangsters death adding these are like. These are small in all problem like this is just like typical movie action movie but yes they should know if they're meeting and selling illegal contraband that they're being surveilled if a drone is like ten feet away from them but hey the point is it's more convenient that this guy is selling the same bullets to a new gang who decides it's time to shoot out so what what would happen. If he was just sitting there on his lunch break eating a baloney sandwich. Not The see we see Mike he identifies that the deal is going to go down that the bag looks like it's empty. There's no money it's GONNA turn into. Shootout is witnesses going to get shot. That he needs to interrogate. He went in to save a life. Yeah was he right. It does seem like that bag actually actually was empty. A feels like they're trying to say in a typical movie. He would rush in the bag. Would I don't know a credit card in it. That's why it looked empty. But he would have been wrong and he'd after learned a lesson I think they're saying he was right this time. Yeah they are not going to make. Will Smith completely humble like he goes through a lot of humiliating circumstance. But they're not gonNA say every instinct of his is wrong he. It's still an admiral hero. That needs to teach these kids something. And I think if Vanessa Hudgens has a role here. She's the fan girl. She's always the one being be respectful for Mike and she's always kind of smiling. I think she might even have a little bit of a crush on this guy. She's the first one to follow him in on this pretty good action scene. I don't think it's in the script. But Vanessa Hutchins. I noticed her playing like she has a crush in like she is giving him looks when she's behind him just her onscreen presence. Her eyes are glued to him now. Maybe she started struck by will Smith. I would be but the way she plays it on screen. I took it as yes. She has a crush crush autumn. And maybe in bad boys Fourtou form a love triangle between Vanessa Hudgens and Rita and Mike but I do like this action scene. I think it's a lot. Aww Fun and I like that. Mike has experienced. They're not saying you're a dinosaur like that cash Asong and you know you need a cat scan instead instead. They're saying he has experienced and can teach the kids something like that. Bag is empty but the kids need to teach him some things like you. Don't need to run in guns blazing either yet. They tried to do this last year. In another bad phil Michael Bay wasn't involved and it wasn't cats but shaft twenty nineteen. I don't know if you guys saw that. But that was all about a you young kids you know you got young shaft there and you got Samuel Jackson young kids won't you just get laid. You GotTa do it like we did okay boomer like that is what that film was. It's all about telling the kids. Thank you for letting me not have to see it. Good good kids need to lighten up and just get laid and maybe today to lighten up a little bit a lot of anger on twitter. But it's just very dated. I liked that. Education is going both ways on this film. Yeah I like everyone on screen and that's rare like usually were pitted against characters and you have to pick aside and say I like them and I don't like them and here even as Rita's chewing out Mike I get both their points nights and I'm on everyone side and I feel like yeah. Eventually they're all going to figure out their relationship to one another. Even Rafe will eventually fall in line and they will do something cool again. It's the family from vin diesel. Though I felt like you got all genders you got all races. We got a crew together. Now you say Eh. That families not very interesting diverse like maybe ethnically diverse but usually not much is given to other than jokes to those characters of. They could take lesson from this. Actually the one thing. They're not doing any better than the previous bad boy. Films is the threads that tied together the investigation. Because they're here with Booker Grassi's the name of the arms dealer. They're trying to save. was that a reference to Luca Brasi. I didn't know if that was kinda sounds. Sounds like Luca Brasi. It sounds like you could probably find an algorithm and say supporting character. Punch it in and Booker Grassy would come off. Yeah it sounds like the name that you've heard of every inform and every movie like this before but changed slightly enough so that its on new thing. Yes good they'd really need him. He's dead on a Fort Live but this doesn't matter because they have some other informant that are Mondo needs to kill. Was this person person. Also twenty four twenty six years ago. Whatever it was somehow involved but carver RIMI now needs help? And he's calling Martin. He's calling marcus out of retirement and the SPA and carver remmy. I don't know exactly what information he has because he's not going to lead them so the next lead so I feel like this. Part of the plot is muddied to me. It's just a way to make the characters. Do specific things is to have the shootout to have markers involved in some way there you go. It brings the two cops back together because Marcus was very comfortable hanging out in the SPA but he takes the call. Mike is already labeled him quitter like he doesn't even have his name Marcus in his phone anymore. You're the equator. I don't talk to you anymore. But we have to work together and I have to write in your Nissan quest because we have to go see carver Rimi at the hotel from scarface and because I imagine Nissan gave a lot the money for that Rodney placement. Yeah at one point. Joey pants has got a camera around his neck. And you got not just the brand. I think it's a Sony but like the model number on the strap so many Microsoft. Hi Christoph surfaces in this film that's okay though you know what like. There's things that I go after a movie for and then there's things that I'm like that's par for the course product placement. These are expensive propositions they had to work on a budget. Ninety million if they WANNA plug Sony products and Nissan cars. I AIN'T GONNA hate it sticks out pretty bad but that's all I'm saying it sticks out but I actually think they use it to their advantage because it's actually kind of funny to see will Smith in an economy car. Yes no I like this again. This isn't great humor. But I I like this I. It's situational base that yes now. Marcus is retired. And he has his wife's Nissan and he won't even drive the speed limit again. You've set up to characters and define in their traits. And now you're doing humor based off those traits. Yeah it's a really solid sitcom yeah like no one ever does backflips for this kind of formula stuff off. But they're doing it very well. Yeah but you do backflips or at least I am after those first two bad boy films. I'm like wow this. One is such a standard story But those previous ones are bad in this one is just able to do mediocre very wall. So it's great. Yeah where are you at on this scale of one to ten. We know Theresa's is a nine now. Are you feeling about what you're seeing here because Jacomb and I are in agreement. This is world's better than what we got in the first two installments. I was thinking that this could be not the best bad boys film. I adds a really considered that versus the first one. It certainly is the best written bad boys film but I don't know that it has the fun adrenaline of the first one but on a scale and once again I'm sitting around a seven okay. So that's where you're at now and yeah all right so carver. Remmy does does what he needs to. He brought them together now. I'm going to die fall under the car and we can see Mike Rushing into this hotel again. I think that is the exact hotel where the guy got chainsaw and saw up in scarface street and we now have father and son. I'll go ahead and spoil the big twist Armando is going to be revealed to be Mike Son. He doesn't know it yet. But will flip up motorcycle helmet visor. Look into the eyes and I think something passes there for a second. He's like my looking at myself. Am I in Gemini Man or is this three. Yes that is the crazed thing and I'm sure you know these were developed separately and they had long lead times probably but well. Oh I wonder if the same screenwriters might not you know that happens. I'm working on a movie. We need a writer. Let me call this guy from my last movie and they bring their ideas from the last smoothie and yet this is like the Sabeel jeopardize man is like motorcycle fight when he seasons younger. Spoilers season yourself now that was in the trailer. It's not a spoiler. Yeah I mean I haven't seen Jim and I'm Manda either view was that yes I've seen it. It starts off all right in the just kind of slides down from there. It's not an awful film but it's not very good. I wouldn't recommend recommend it but I got such a Gemini Man vibe off of this film yeah. I haven't seen German I manage on my plex. It's on my to watch list but I did get a Gemini Man. Feel Bill when that motorcycle helmet goes up. Because I'm like why are they lingering on this why is it like a big reveal and I'm thinking Gemini Man because I'm like if that was will Smith in there Dr I'd get it. But what is this moment that passes between them. Will Smith is recognizing something. Yes but I'm not recognizing right again. They've done in a good enough job shadowing all of their future reveals. I'm just waiting for him to realize that this is the family. He betrayed so long ago. And that it's something from his past. I thought would be what they were leading to. I didn't realize that it would be such a direct juxtaposition with the fact that Marcus has a kid. We're going to deal L.. With him. Having a kid Margaret says grandkid. Well yes exactly. We already know yet. A kid but yes. Marcus is dealing with parenting issues. And now he's going to have to do the very okay. Same thing it's skillfully done. I compliment the writers on the way that they made this field formula until it wasn't and this gives Mike some pause. They're actually really going to have another dialogue scene and I should've seen where this was going. I really should've seen where this was going. I'm kicking myself for not knowing when Mike goes to visit captain. Joey Pants at his daughters basketball game. Or maybe his granddaughter's basketball game. I think she's seems awfully young for Joey Pants to her. But you know Charlie. Chaplin had visit eighty. But they're having this big discussion and Joey Pants is giving this wisdom. He gives the proverb about where you're going. I don't know ask the Horse. The Horses Your Anger Mike. You GotTa get off that horse. Yeah no I agree. They fooled me with this. Because I thought this was talk was 'cause they're addressing issues. I had with Mike and his is anger in his recklessness. This is the movie tone them. You GotTa get it under control so I thought it was just a little poignant moment where joy pants is going to tell them to get it under control when he gets shot through the neck I was shocked. Shocked the entire audience. Like everyone gasped. And there's this moment where he's like Mike. You're like a son to me. I should have seen a I. Don't blame Amy Oranje I agree they telegraph it but I wasn't connected to those wires. I really thought that was not going to happen. And I also just want to say technically speaking whoever did the sound mix yeah I was in the Imax theater and the way that strict behind like even if you knew it was coming just the way that they mixed that sound effect they will get you in the back of the spine. It feels like it's hitting you when it takes out joey. I had this moment of Shiva. Killjoy pants so then shit. You're a dumb ass. Of course they killjoy. Pants spoiler alert in Beverly Hills. Cop Three they brought back back the captain and shot him to to motivate any Murphy. So I should have seen this coming. I'm mad at myself for not seeing a gumming but it did get a shocked reaction action. I don't see it coming because we already had someone already shot and it was will Smith himself. You wouldn't do that twice right. Why would you do that twice? But the point is what they're making here is it's really pay back for his Hubris in thinking that he could investigate this himself. I was wondering because I'm like I thought they were going after everyone from the case money a year twenty four twenty five thirty five. Who knows how many years ago right? But they're trying to knock everyone off the case when Isabel like going through pictures. We never see joey pants but then after he's he's dead she pulls out a card with xtop so I figured that was just something. They're holding back so it'd be surprised that this was just part of that revenge. No not at all what she said is I. I wanted you to kill him last because I want him to suffer and the come up with things that will make him suffer. They know that he's really close to this captain. And they want this captain to die in front of his eyes before they shoot him but then some referee from the basketball game comes over and Stewart you talking about this referee like standing standing in the way of the sniper. I think where they're trying to tell. You Are Mondo. Don't totally hate. There's something good about him because swallow his partner like wants him to pull the trigger. He's like no innocence. No innocent since. Oh don't hate him too much. You won't kill innocent people. Yeah well this sets up an interesting dynamic for him yeah he has ethics and he will only kill people that he thinks deserves it. We've seen him kill a lot of people but in his rationale they deserved it because they put his father away or because they were under renegotiating a deal. I don't quite know what all those they look like. Bad guys at the beginning Eddie. All stabs so I'm willing to believe that he's killing with a conscience and that's going to be interesting when we know that father and son are going to have to kill each other. That's also a way of saying father and son are going to have to determine. Are you good or bad. And the whole idea of bad boys versus good boys suddenly takes on a new interesting dimension. That again we're never part of the formula of the Bay Universe and I have to ask Arnie because you paid so much attention this time line. Maybe you got the connecting tissue here. Why did they go see an accountant? I hear them drop line. Like Mike is going to get Marcus. Join up with them because joy pants is dead their captain so he's GonNa go see an accountant to as I dunno receipts or something. I think the bullets. I don't know this is Lou. Brasi Booker Grassi's accountants. And he has all of his receipts for the bullets he sold. How did they know? This was the accountant. Do they ever say like it. Just feels like show up there. What is said and yes not showed was that they sorted through files and stuff the techie guy might have gotten involved okay? They have electronic electronic receipts. I'm assuming it wasn't like a paper from a cash register but if you're selling illegal arms it's probably a good idea to keep track of how much money you're you're making me. This is a business expense by bullets. I need to be sure it's a write off. I would think that anybody would want a better than somebody working out of this. No tell motel tell talking all kinds of crazy about this fucking fast food or going on with Picante Jenkins but I know I wouldn't use them for my taxes. The the fast-food fist. faulk was a line that I don't even know what that means. Does it mean a no standard with cheeses greasy enough to use for Lou. We're not gonNA talk about it. I don't WanNa talk talking about positions. I don't want to talk about sex. I just WanNa talk about Martin Lawrence still holding onto the idea that he can be goodman not bad boys who wants to sing that song by the way salt and pepper had a very big hit. With what a man so you can sing that song. You can extol the virtues of men but the joke is here's a crazy you guys spouting crazy and Martin Lawrence wants to talk him down until they get socked in the jaw twice in all right. We'll do it. I loved the line. Martin Luther King just tapped out you got Malcolm now good line but interesting enough again in the twenty first century. No we're not going to let cops just beat up on people bull ammo shows up and does quote unquote the right thing. They are the Goodman. They have tasers and so Mike doesn't get to show his masculinity Eddie by putting away the gun and beating on this guy you know. This movie broke the rule of Chekhov's grenade launcher because right before the scene. Marcus is like why. You've got a grenade launcher in your truck truck. I'm like well. Obviously they're going to fire grenade launchers later on. I thought that was yeah. I think I was coming back at the end. I think it does come back. We'll talk about it but it involves this way low. What they they find out more tenuous connections this? CPA has left behind social media posts and the techie Guy Searches through pictures through Dick pics fix of the day. I think that Mike got shot. It's important that Picante Jenkins was hanging out with sway. Lo why not you know. I'm sure he's hang out with a lot of people but let's hang out with swallow. Who is apparently a Latin Music Star and may have some name recognition with some part of the audience? I didn't know so this is a musician in real life. Like you're saying in the movie swallow was some you six dollars. I'm saying that Nicky Jam is somebody. He does some people and so to see him on screen. They would Noha there the next lead we need to go to the cool club and chase him out of the VIP lounge and here once again. Get Mike Having to address his own age. He thinks in his suit with his car. He can just walk into the club like he did when he was a fresh prince. No no they're going to need to get him in. Yeah because he does he actually DJ. There I got a little confused by what was going on there at the table. Yeah I don't know whether that was is just for the night or whether he regularly spin as a way of picking up extra money. Maybe AMMO doesn't pay much. I don't know I mean he's still Miami. PD's just assigned to AMMO. Oh sure I mean you know you can have dreams you know what any money was a Chicago cop that became a Rockstar. So we'll go with it. Well it's fine. Rafe needs something. He is probably the most most underdeveloped of this AMMO team. That's why I'm assuming things about Arnie. Because seat is not fully developed but the boy is that he announces the Happy Birthday Message. Sage as Mike and Marcus this guy in the VIP lounge and say you're under arrest and this leads to another funny chase of well one's going to take the stairs to pursue do of course when a leap off the balcony and swing from the ropes and a climax style chase that they're going to go into the huge action peas. It feels like you should be the end of the film. Almost yeah I had no idea. Swallow was actually going to get out of that club. It felt like you know earlier. We'd seen Mike beep deep his informants hand with a Meat Hammer. It felt like swallow was just going to be like the CPA a minor action scene to lead him to our Mondo. But no you're going to get this major car chase which I do love that. Somehow they found a motorcycle with a sidecar so car with the machine gun. Mike it gets crazy they start out. Just commandeering some red truck from the club but yes what they say is they go into some ganglion territory and that trump gets shot up and swallow himself is starting to look like the elephant man because they shot him off his motorcycle and he has this huge with a rubber bullet because they have to use. ACLU approved weapons. 'cause I guess for Ammo the drop some line about the ACLU but rubber bullets do hurt. Like hell from what I read. I've never been shot with them. I did shot with a paintball and that hurt. Yeah imagine imagine this rubber bullet and when he gets shot in the back with a rubber bullet. Yes it's non lethal yes. They're not so bad boys but you shoot somebody who's not wearing a helmet to fall off a motorcycle. He should be on a motorcycle without an element. That's on swallow the funniest joke to me. And this whole movie is Martin Lawrence Right here where it's like got it touch it can touch. An audience lost their minds over. This and I was laughing too because I would have to touch like I get a bump. I WANNA touch it. I WANNA feel like it feels like some kind of Tarantino moment it feels subversive. It feels a little bit darker than this stuff usually gets and compliment again. The screen writers and the directors for just making everything feel a little bit more CDs sleazy a little bit more edgy than normal. It helps these old old guys seemed fresh and hit but yeah it turns out. Swallow isn't down for the count. He's GonNa get back on the bike and yes. This is where the SIDECAR surprised. I don't see Z.. sidecars that often you know usually if somebody's riding on a motorcycle. ICM Writing Bitch. I don't see him riding in the sidecar and so to see Marcus in the SIDECAR. Like like Robin in the Batman and Robin Sixty six. Well it's where it's where the pit bull the literal pinball. Yeah I'd love to see the music start it is I know and I love when he gets in that SIDECAR. It's like a white man's basement down here with all the again. There's some good lines in this. I like it then. I don't here's what I like. It's funny it's fun to see Martin Lawrence be funny because he's been so reserved but I really did kind of groove to the idea that Eddie wasn't going to kill and I kinda wanted him to retain that I actually thought it would have been interesting if he had been able to go the whole movie going the path of God and the fact that he just aalto decides. Oh that's not who I am and just start mowing down motorcycle. Gangs feels like a cheat. I liked it though. How will Smith convinces them? That's God's gone. He gave you that gun. I'm laughing but you hear what I'm saying. I can understand why you write it and then you rewrite it because it isn't true. How did the character as they were defining? Yes Stewart I with you. I WANNA praise this film because it does address issues with the previous films with violence and who authority and all that right but it's still an action film. They're not gonNA totally go full pacifists again. I've Seen Khartum do this with the eighteen. With Abe Raucous that that's a big thing until he needs needs to fight and then he just GonNa fight that ultimately it's a Hollywood action Phil but it would have been more daring and more edgy. If they had kept these two on different pass the whole movie movie and they just let this character go his new way and let me Mike. I mean I think that if they had worked out where each could be different in that way I didn't feel like it was for Martin Lawrence to learn he needed to go back to the always and kill people unnecessarily. Here's the difference is when I walked into this film. I'd seen the trailers and they're like bad boys one last time. You know the scene after the chief is killed. And we've seen Marcus actually retire. I don't even I think he's a cop here. He's not on the force he's just tagging along. He does have a badge at this point so I think I don't know if you have to go through the rehiring if you really want to become a cop but I think he's a cop again so I honestly went into this thinking. It was a final Hurrah like it was a goodbye to these characters. Yes and in that case you'll leave Martin Lawrence as a pacifist until the end. I didn't realize that they were going to use this movie to set up bad boys for ever or something and I. You know what they didn't know that either until they started seeing the dailies and then they said you know what we're not making the end we're re kicking this off. They probably probably had a version of the script. Doing exactly what I was saying. And having him be the righteous person and teaching Mike that he didn't need to be this way. And now they realize how can you make a sequel sequel out of that. Also I'm guessing Martin Lawrence wouldn't want to just be on the sidelines leading. Will Smith Hog all the action. If you're going to bring him back remember he was fucking top OP build initially. No one's saying don't do action. It would be a greater stunt have to kick. Somebody's ass without killing them. I mean that's an interesting conflict to have him battling battling people but not Batman kind of dealt lifted. I mean we've seen this issue brought up before collateral damage Superman got hell for that whatever that that was man of steel. We judge people harshly if they abused their power and so seeing him be the responsible one. That's what they were setting out to be would have been a fun way. Eight to play it. They're not going to do that this scene. It's just hilarious to see him. Go Wild Dogs with a gun. Gods and swallows going to be rescued. You'd by Armando. Use a rope ladder with the helicopter. So many helicopters in this film is low. Call out and a grenade launcher. I think that's where the grenade launcher comes back. Will Smith is like. I just like having a grenade launcher now. This other guy just likes having a grenade launcher and it brings the parallel of father or so much like son and I did like the moment limit where I'm like. How the hell are they going to get out of a grenade launcher? He kicks off the latch that holds on the side. Cars of the grenade goes between them And now Martin Lawrence is just right has absolutely no control. Yeah no again. If you've seen the a team there's some crazy action. I feel like that is back here. Like yeah at that site car. You're even earlier when it was connected. There's a stunt where we'll Smith's not paying attention to that sidecars underneath a semi and that's funny yeah very adrenaline action sequence here. Yeah it's a very good sequence worthy of fast and furious and it would be worthy of a climax but I'm glad and surprised that it is not going to get away on the chopper but swallow is not and they set something up earlier that I can't believe they paid off when he hired swallow. He said give yourself a raise. Make your people do what I say and stay the fuck out of my way and I won't shoot you. Adhere literally swallow is the fuck it his way because Mike his also hanging onto that rope and our motto can't get a shot he can't shoot round swallows way. Low can't move swell of literally at his way and he's gonNA shoot swallow in the head just like you said he would and not only that. It takes us back to the moment where the captain got killed. He wouldn't kill an innocent person he wasn't gonNA shoot the referee that got in there and stood between him and will Smith but this guy because this is not innocent so again we see how he makes moral choices when he's willing to to kill and when he's not and Mike he's in the line of fire but he loses his grip on the rope ladder. Fortunately there over the water and not overland and he doesn't is it die and he gets away. I think with swallows cell phone. Yeah Rec- Mike Takes Way low cell phone when they're I don't know in that game land territory and swallows got that big bump on his head and knocked out takes the phone and we received this moment where they got a crack this cell phone. Mike's GonNa go to Dorn. At this time I guess ammo is getting disbanded. REC- you see some people in suits talking to Rita but mike goes up to dorn and he's like can you. Can you go to the dark side and do is this a reference. There's all this controversy about will apple and lock lock these iphones used by terrorists and get the information like it does feel like. Will you go to the dark side unlocked this phone and get this information off here. I wonder it that somehow coded wooded language with what's going on now they definitely what to be felt like of course the techies going to break into the phone. Why wouldn't you do it? They definitely wanted to pause yellow light and say is this Ethical choice cop should be making and that was interesting that they paused before they said absolutely. I'm praising this movie for the pauses though that it's actually going to take those vases and they find out. This guy has called all over Mexico City and it's a dorn has to send out a ton of texting odd stuff way. Go just to see who's going to reply. We heard say that earlier and redes- like what the hell does that mean. See You when we die. See you in the fire. This is a nonsense phrase. Yeah Armando said it to Mike as he dropped off the ladder on the helicopter. Yeah this is really what helps Mike make. All the connections of like this kid knows a lot about not me. He kind of looks like me and once they've finally realized that swallow was calling the woman that he used to be involved with so many years ago. Oh La Brouhaha the witch. He's ready to tell Marcus something. That markets didn't know about his longtime partner and that is he fucked without a condom and she taught him how to dress address. That wasn't even bigger reveal. He's like she made Mike Lowering. I'm like wow. I don't know if I'd want that credit last year. I really liked that airplane. Ain't seen in Hobson. Shaw thought it was really funny. And when they remake it here still pretty funny yeah. I really liked the way people around them were made uncomfortable. We fly together. We died again. Like fuck yeah. There's a lot of changing seats and again. That comedy is not genius but is working and you like these people again. I want to see this work. I want to see Marcus. Yeah one more time. I'm not fooled by by that but I guess come out and help your friend bringing ammo along and learn about this twisted story. Help him correct a family problem that he he has. I did just laugh at how blunt marcus gets. Though you fucked a witch without a condom morlock baby had me laughing and I felt like the first bad boys was funny. I felt like the second bad boys kind of back seat of the humor a lot. I mean there was the pool but it all fell on Martin Lawrence Will Smith was way too serious. They're here I think will smith is playing perfect because he should be serious and he is. He's like this is my son and I'M GONNA put a bullet in my son I have to. I mean this is the right thing to do. This guy put bullets in me. He put a bullet in my captain. I'M GONNA put a bullet in him but yet we're still bill getting funny reactions from him. We're still shown that will smith can do the comedy but Martin Lawrence has taken the onus jokes. It's exactly what you want you'd never want a buddy cop comedy to become so moralistic that everything is life and death steaks and there is no lightness. It has to retain a sense of eleven because let's face it. This is not the godfather these are not like serious dramatical issues if formulas cop show and so we have to be laughing and the great news is is that they're able to do the whole Juggling Act it is as moralistic as it needs to be it slows down just enough to say we care about these things but but it will never slow down so much that we're not laughing and zipping on to the next. While at this point the climax he'll go palace Mexico City we've crossed the border. Yeah I feel like there's some scenes cut out because they're going to meet up with some people in Mexico to give them guns. No it was like a nice couple and one of them says this is payback for Miami. Tammy so in. This movie's shorthand style. It means that way back in the day you help me out with something and my payback is to give you some guns now. That's it okay. So it wasn't something I didn't remember from the I do film well that I can't say because I don't remember that I don't need to get the short here I can say it wasn't something from the first I films but I liked it. I liked that he had a contact there and that they were going to send time because we see them in the airport with these bags. And I'm like well as the grenade launcher in the bad. Yeah we would definitely be complaining if all of a sudden they were going on a commercial flight and we're able to get off the plane with this kind of arsenal so yes and hitting the yellow light. They slow down just enough to say this is how they get their weapons and of course AMMO is here too. They could probably brought their weapons as well. They definitely brought the drone grown and so it is a reunion of. I guess lovers and father and child here very telenovela. Very dramatic and spooky. I do think the look of this place place all of its very perfect in its gothic sensibilities. This was the real test from user. Walking into this hell dog palace. There's a couple of rats crawling along the ground around something. I do. Remember from part two. Is Rats Fuck. So I'm like okay. This is your litmus test are these rats gonNA sixty nine they gonna do dog just rats crawl away on their bellies always already a better film. Rats don't fuck but now I WANNA see rat sixty nine thanks Jacob. I'm sure that's why we have. It's out there air but again it's just gothic it silly of course if we were to get the red light if we want to completely stop we would say this is all kind of stupid right but we're only getting yellow lights so we're still having fun we're still zipping through and I'm totally into this climax when it comes up do you keep calling her the witch and again. I don't think think she's a liberal which he's just very superstitious. But I do Kinda like the fact that yes. You're just going to bring a witch into this film and they're gonNA fight her and her henchmen. I'm so fucking glad. She never cast a spell. I am really. There's no way I'd never believed she would do that does she. Not I mean she in Kansas and she claims when she sees Mike. I I made you too strong. I think that she's cut a chicken head offers. She did some Sanatoria to make him the cop that he was she. You might think that listen. I believe she believes it but I'm glad she's not a major shooting. fucking magic fireballs out of her hand. She's not shooting lightning out of her fingertip upset in this film at all. Oh admittedly yeah that the movie couldn't sustain itself and I don't even think Michael Bay would do that but then again I'm not at no point it. Does she even say an incantation of ru falls in where we could think she's carrier something you know. She can say her little speeches and she can have things go her way but we could just say you know any religious person Martin Lawrence prayed to God and Mike lowry got out of the hospital. Did God do that or did doctors. I do that. I'm fine with that. Level of mysticism agreed agreed. And again it works to help her more threatening than what she really does. Because ultimately it has been or Mondo uh-huh doing all of the killing and the heavy lifting and it seems to be the AMMO team kind of rushing in a whole lot of goons getting killed and are Mondo basically the fighting. Will Smith it's good. Fight to like the fistfight between them until Mike gets a chokehold can kill him is ready you to kill him but there happens to be a mirror there if that mirror hadn't been there and if they hadn't had the same facial hair which is the only thing that makes them look alike. I don't think they have the casting agent going. We're looking for Hispanic Will Smith look alike. It's a tough one. Because if he'd look too much like we would guess the surprise so I think they did it well well. I think that mirror did help me see that. Yeah they do have a similar quality. I can't see how that would be unnerving to kill yourself as silly as the mayor is like that. It's in in their like again. It's just a little bit of short hand there to remind you what the stakes are. The story is it's just a notch. Above what we see before these bad boy films were like Michael Bay. He don't got time for that he's got to get an explosion in there. You've got to cut and what Marcus did earlier where he was turning the other cheek and got beaten up and fast food fist fucked. Mike has learned learned from that. Mike is going to do that here. He is going to try to penetrate Armando soul with his heart. Yeah because the idea originally was inspired. Everybody's goofy one by Marcus. He was the one originally doing that. Talk it feels legitimate. And that he's had some influence on Marcus at this. Point is still a killer like they threw him appear glasses. And he's blowing up the helicopters above. I love that moment because my wife said it and the first time I got glasses I said it when Marcus puts a vase like this shit's HD. It's exactly what is like. Yeah I re- I remember that I remember when I first got glasses. I'm like wait. Trees have individual leads check. A blur breeze. It was just like when I got my first. HDTV money to see him. It was just one of those truth moments that you don't normally see in a bad boys film Ed. Greed agreed and it's both funny and allows markets to be a killer again but Mike is going to be a little less of a killer here to they've had a little incremental influence on one another even though ultimately they're the same characters they were at the start of this movie here at the end. They've changed just enough to make it feel like it's been drama and I. I didn't know what Armanda would do again. I felt at this point that this was one last ride. I still thought this was going to be the last bad boys movie. Don't you kind of wish it was. Isn't it kind of cheap. Yeah now going to crank this out with spinoffs and all of that like dramatically speaking it would be so satisfying to know that this was the the end for them. But I guess money is just corruptive right. You just can't say no to. What is going to make? This is going to be a huge hit. And those are rare these days in Hollywood unless it's a Disney film. Like if you're going to have a huge hit making a franchise Sony needs this. They don't even have spiderman anymore. So they got more BS. That's the same thing thank here. I'm wondering what our monitor's going to do because he's been trying to kill will Smith old time thinking will Smith was involved in his father's death and he has no reason just because he was let out of a chokehold to not kill him but I guess he also saw something in that moment with the motorcycle Michael Helmet and when Mike says I'm your father something in him must believe it and Isabel isn't smart enough to lie when she comes down at our is what are you saying. True Isabel just goes. It doesn't matter it doesn't matter no he's crazy kill. Yeah that's the same as yes. Yes pretty much Revealing it there but again I think she had an earlier dialogue with Mike and which she corrected him. They said our son and she said my son she looks as Mondo has an entirely her creation and so I think that she sees him as a spell that she cast. I have created the Sun. He's going to do my bidding and it's time time to take out my other creation Mike. So what you're saying is she's just fucking crazy seems to be the way it is here and who gets the kill shot on this. They've wisely given it to read. They set that up too because earlier when mic shows up at the beginning he frisks Isabel and Isabel. Says there's a time you would have melted at my touch and then we cut got to read. Every I'M GONNA fucking kill her sure enough. Read if I can kills Yeah because the whole time they have been playing like Mike Shoud get with Rita like we. You see him get jealous when she shows up at the club and the site dress and there's some dude hidden on her like that has been. I guess the Love Triangle is Rita Mike and Isabelle. Yeah I got the sense when they were talking early on that the reason why it didn't work out from Mike was he was still kind of holding onto the standard of his one true love. And that's Isabel savell so it makes sense that like if he's going to get with Rita he has to literally and metaphorically kill the concept of Isabel and again I should have seen that Isabel. Isabel was the one true love because in that scene that we keep talking about where they actually had a conversation earlier at the bar. Markaz have you ever been in love. He goes one time but he looks at it. Read us so I might have been with Rita. Maybe we're going to find out. He really loves reader. WE'RE GONNA end up with him writing off in the sunset with Rita and because you know the A- again I thought this was the end and no we find out. The one. True Love was here was Isabel. She's going to die and he's more than happy to let her go. Oh and she still made a very kick ass Mike lowry. She did good and they have a really interesting. I think a semi mature response to our Mondo because it would've been very easy to have a pillar fall on him or something but they make the choice that he's alive here at the end and he is not going to go free or at least not in this movie and next one will say but the idea is. You're going to have to pay for your crimes but I'm going to be there for you anyway. I'm going to visit you in jail. I think impresses says Rita in that moment I think it's impressive to show a new dimension in a new side to Mike as well it shows that he is willing to be some kind of father and I didn't even think about that when they reunited. I'm like okay. They're going to reunite but he's like you did a lot of bad things. You're going to have to pay for what you've done but I'm going to be there for you. That was a really refreshing and mature and unexpected twist whereas I expected it to be. We're in Mexico. Run from the cops right. Yeah it could've could've gone that way and so instead conveniently now Rita has they need a new cap in. She has been promoted to that captain. She's the boss. She's moving on up because six six months ago they were congratulating her. When Marcus had his baby they were congratulating? or You just got promoted to lieutenant. Yeah that's true and then they disbanded Ammo at some. Employ pedestrians got killed on the highway. During this way. Low Chase my question. Is You talk about this timeline. Arnie and they can't get your straight. How many years later leader is this climax? Because that baby got teeth now we saw this baby born at the beginning of the film. Now the baby's got teeth it. It's gotta be like two or three. I figured it was around one. I mean and babies t the different times. I don't know I don't have a fucking okay so this this is supposed to be like a year later. It's not supposed to be like a month later. I'm not sure about that. Maybe they just couldn't afford the baby prop if they use whenever they need a little infant. Yeah it was busy on American sniper too but six months past with Mike and the hospital so we know so at least that much time passed. Okay so we did. Yeah that's true. Okay I'll forgive it but I do love. They do another job callback here. That really works when the baby's crying crying Mike is agreed to babysit whereas earlier. He wouldn't even hold the baby. He didn't WanNA carry the baby into the SPA. Don't WanNA touch the baby. Now that he's a dad he's like okay. Yeah I'll watch the baby because what he said was funny. I don't want to catch that. I understand that feeling now that he's like well. I guess I'm already infected. I'll babysit it and the baby's crying so mike things bad boys and the baby stops crying and then markets starts doing the. He's the day doesn't know the words baby starts crying again. No one knows the words for that song except for what you see at the opening credits of cops. It was also funny earlier. We're AMMOS start singing the bad boys song. They're like no. Don't you ever do that again. But it's very true because I don't know I mean it's still on because that's where inner circle song actually originated even didn't come from. This movie came from the Fox First Reality Show in the nineteen eighty. I don't know if cops is still on the live. PD now which is like the new cops cops is on TV. I've seen it on some cable station. A new episodes though and I have no fucking way to know of his new home runs. I mean a guy coming out in a wife beater while drunk is timeless and they probably still could use the same old inner circle song. I'm sure that reggae group is very thankful for that but I do think it's appropriate Britt. The metaphor is complete. The old stors are teaching a new generation. How bad boys but after they told the new generations and not sing it they do bring bring it back it does play before they go to the club and something I'm really glad about? They brought back that score. Dot Dot dot dot That that I love that score from the first movie. I'm so glad they brought it back here. Gave it that fun vibe and made it feel like bad boys it would be like to me. Not that score would be like if you have beverly hills cop four and don't bring in do do do do. Do you know what I'm saying I do but I don't want to go back to bad. I boys one the difference between you and me is. That movie was a toilet sewage pile. That should not be in any way influencing this new pretty good movie you mean it was was a great seminal nineties action film I agree it was not and nobody agrees with you like that was it was a marginal hit that spawned will Smith's career Michael Michael Bay's career Independence Day and men in black had a lot more to do with. Will Smith overall stardom than bad boys. Bad boys was a cobblestone hobble stone on the road. He wouldn't have gotten Independence Day without bad boy cobblestone he stepped on it and he stepped up far up in my opinion and I didn't even like Independence Day but it was better than bad boys but we do get the scene that I did not expect I knew I was Gonna stay till the credits. Just in case I knew I was seeing it first of the three of us. We always like to give each other a heads up when we can save ten minutes and walk out of the theater. Yeah I hate sitting through credits particularly these days when they're twenty minutes long. Yeah it's always worse than like a marvel fulfil where you have eighteen hundred. CG animators to credit bad boys had decently short credits but very soon in them. We see I have no idea what prison Armanda was in it. Looks like he's in a cage in a dark warehouse. Same One is woody Harrelson in Venom. At least envenom. There was like a hallway or something I think here you know what I'm betting APP. It is this was filmed last week. And they like. Here's a sound stage. Let's put up some fencing. Yeah they had to be sure that there was going to be more and they are very confident. I'm sure once they saw the finished product they said. Yep I don't think they're going to do Armando movie without the bad ones. It's not Hobson Shaw Right. We'll know it's Armand Doing Mike Right. It's father and son being bad boys. Yeah it might be will Smith and this guy with no Martin Lawrence. That's my prediction. Indiana Ama- will come back but we get marcus too because they cut back to the airplane and he's taking a poll from the whole airline. Would you fucking bitch without a very good question. Everyone should have to answer that. I thought there might be more outtakes. We're doing rush hour on Fridays. And those always ascended the outtakes. I thought there might be more outtakes somewhere in the credits. More jokes that got caught or something but no that was the only one. I think it's going to serve him. Well I do think Armanda will be going forward a good foil. It's a whole lot for Mike to learn about the sun and who he is and how they're different and guess every now and then they can call up there. Good Marcus who sitting on a recliner and he'll tell really funny joke. Nah he said he's bad boys for life he is coming out of retirement. He's not gonNA drive theresa crazy at home anymore. I don't believe he'll be a major character. If this goes forward I hear that they set it. They gave them the option. But I believe believe he's going to sit down and do minimal for the future depends on if they'll pay him the same for doing minimal. But let's find out Goodman Goodman and what you're GonNa do what you're going to do when I say. Do you recommend bad boys for Life Jacob. What a difference a baby or a lack of obey it is shocking shocking? And that was my one hope. There's no Michael Bay in this one and could it be better because of that it is. I almost want to give this film best picture. Give it the Oscar because because it is such a course correction it is so mediocre like again. It's not an amazing script but it corrects the problems that I hadn't I think Stewart Pat with police brutality. The style of humor the obnoxious editing. Like eight correct so many things like I think I liked this film a lot more than actually to like just in talking about it because they improve so many things and you know we always talk about rate everything equal all films films are different you. You have steaks and you have hamburgers. And as C.. Martin Lawrence do in this film. He eats a frozen burritos frozen burritos too. I've had a lot of frozen burritos. I can tell you. There are different qualities that are actual good frozen burritos and there are ones that aren't great and this is a good frozen Burrito like this is a fun inconsequential action film that I laughed during I enjoyed the action scenes. Will I ever watched again. I don't know maybe if it's just like buying and I'm in the room but I enjoy this film it's entertaining it's got some themes and does it totally deliver Ron. I'm not gonNA pull back because we WANNA see stuff blow up ultimately but I had a fun time with the film I. I was surprised how much I had because yeah they did address so so many of the issues that I felt were there with the first two bad boys so yeah. I'm giving this film a recommend go see it Stewart. Yeah my compass got blown up and spectacular display. I don't even know what's up and down more. I predicted this could be one of the worst. You think sonic the Hedgehog is going to win best picture because now like I have no sense about what's good or bad. I thought this franchise was going to be bad for life. You started with nothing and now you just got older. And you've got greedier and you've got fat people. Trying to relive live a bad franchise. How could anything come from this other than us? Hate watching it and making fun of it and it's the happiest surprise of the year. They have rallied and made. Yeah what are the better installments and fast and furious. That is a victory. That is an amazing win for this franchise and all they had had to do was stop a little pause slowdown to have a little bit weightier themes give a little more consideration to characters. Add some young characters. who were all very very sensible and likable? And Yeah just let Martin Lawrence and will Smith do what they do within that context and suddenly you have a film that it doesn't feel even close to the abysmal. Bad boys bad boys two scenario that we had just a few years ago. I watched that. I don't remember a thing but yeah it feels like a whole new day a whole new dawn. And I'm going to give props mostly to this directing team. I do not want to see bad boys for. I am not so energized that that I can't wait for more of this but I would like to see this directing teams first movie. I would like to see what they do next. If it's not a bad boys movie and I'm not dreading batboys forever. Either I think if you have to do a buddy cop movie this is better than most. It is a very solid recommend every blown on your mind take a moment and a brass. That was like what I knew. Jacob would recommend it. I didn't think Stewart would ever recommended dead. I mean recommending a buddy action film Stewart gave it a pretty hardy recommend to so three for three. I think this is the best written of the bad boys movies. You said you'RE GONNA credit the director. Stuart I'm going to be with Jacob and Credit Carnahan because I think this is the best written of all the bad bad boy films now. I think that having them face their age was so smart because if we went in there and this was just bad boys three and they acted like no time time had passed. which is what I expected that would be a debacle? But they're facing the aging they're making it contemporary the people who saw bad boys. He's like me when it was new are feeling the same things as so it makes highly relatable to them. And yet you bring in Vanessa Hudgens and Ammo to try to bring in a new audience as well and while. I do think my audience was mostly older. I'm I don't know how much this is going to reach. Teens who normally Komo Fund R. Rated movies even though they shouldn't but I thought it was a smart bad boys film which we hadn't gotten it doesn't give me the contact. Hi a bad boys one so in the end. If I'm going to just watch a movie for Pure Fun I'm GonNa Watch bad boys one again. That movie just is like crack back for me. But it's solid recommend for bad boys for life but I don't want to do a four if I could change one thing. I'd cut that scene at the end with the son because I thought it was going to be like Franklin Gel at the end of masters of the universe I will. I thought this movie was GonNa tank and that that we're going to pay down your debt would be one of those cliffhangers that never ever gets payoff. Bet against it though like with the box office this is getting and with the way that it played. I mean the crowd just the reaction. I know they've got a winner. Here and Sony needs all the franchises. It can get. Yeah absolutely I know now now what I didn't know when it was playing but even though I now know it's coming and I enjoyed this one. They say they're going to write it. So the wheels fall off. That's what the bad add boys say right. I don't want him to write to the wheels fall off I wanted to park it in pristine condition and let it stay good. Well here's what I'm hoping Jamie Jamie Lee Curtis said okay. The Halloween reboot was a hit. I'll do two more. Maybe they can have an exit strategy. Maybe they can tailor. The next couple sequels equals so that it hands the torch off to her Mondo and AMMO and we'll have bad boy movies boys kill and bad boys end. Yeah like we'll have them logically. Bring the stories of Mike and Marcus to a complete close without turning it into a automobile with no wheels calls a junker. That is no fun for anyone to watch or make. Yes so they say Joe Carnahan will write the next. That is something that there're confidence about. But it was just announced Disney is poaching him for national treasure three. They're picking that up now. They're pulling that out of the national treasure for life. Never seen any of them. I don't know what that means but you know what screenwriters can work on multiple projects at the same time. I think he can do both if he comes back. I'll have optimism for bad boys for. I went in pessimistic for bad boys for life. I really thought this was going to suck and so the fact that I liked it. I'm I'm not dreading a four but don't want another bad boys two ever though. Let me ask you this. Are you more excited for bad boys for our fast and the furious nine I would actually rule if they can keep this directing team this screenwriter and this supporting cast. I think I like the bad boys universe more without Paul Walker and without the rock yeah. I'm more excited for bad boys for assuming Martin Lawrence is not retired. I'm more excited for bad boys for than fast and furious nine. I don't know if what's his face from. Tokyo drift can fill the hole that the leaving stars have left. John Cena. Yeah he who might be as is good. But WHO's the new Jason Stadium. Helen Mirren maybe guys. Can we get a bad boys. Fast and furious. Crossover that in our future. I felt like it was happening. It could be actually that I felt like they were going to get him out so they could go raise dominic. TORONTO SONY BUYS Universal. It will happen but right now. Now two different studios means no crossover and I think universal would by Sony before that Sony keeps hedging on getting out of the movie business. But yeah this movie did gangbusters Buster second-best Martin Luther King weekend ever the only movie to do higher is American sniper. It was estimated to come in at forty forty eight million. That's what they were shooting for over a four day weekend which is always an optimistic figure like they're always like please. Oh please and usually it's like an will be happy with thirty five. Sometimes I see him shoot low because they want to appease the stockholders so they'll shoot a little low so it can be like we beat expectations but they never expected seventy indeed this weekend. Yeah this probably have good international appeal to international audiences love explosions. They have a reason to be proud because they took a very bad concept. Yup that was very tired and hackneyed and made it as fresh as any other action franchise outright now and so yeah. I don't know why you wouldn't want to see this. Continue if they can keep this quality especially since here's some of Sony's recent offerings the grudge. Now we know that didn't do well well and not a lot of people. Listen to our show. Well you said they're gonNA make more. We'll we'll see Charlie's angels boy up not GonNa make more with that cast how a soda is still in business. Salaam land double tap did okay at one hundred twenty worldwide. But not a great sleaze. No trilogy more BS. Nobody's GonNa fuck and see more because nobody knows who more this kid empire. That's not necessarily means that no one will see it depends on how they sell it. Come on Michael Keaton's coming back. They're really trying to tell you. This guy's ties is in just like Spiderman. It's going to tie into the. Yeah we got Michael Keaton and we don't have anybody from the NCAA. You know. Tom Haulage but we've got Michael Keaton. Yeah then I'm works. That's all I'm saying but yeah sure they have Jumanji. Okay Sony you live on that Jumanji and little women money but most of their franchises are falling on their face this year. It looks like a good year for them they also got ghostbusters. Coming back later. Yeah that trailer looked solid. I was another franchise I had written off as dead that I think maybe we their is an afterlife. Yeah Sony needs the franchises. If afterlife works we know there'll be more gross busters and yes. I don't think they can afford to not have the bad boy's back but more importantly I think that we would all be happy to see a buddy action series that had this quality. I mean I think it's a hard genre do I mean I. I'm on record not one of my favorites and so if they can make this work they could have something that just as good as lethal weapon as for us. 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FOF # 2872  Matt Brown and the War Within

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FOF # 2872 Matt Brown and the War Within

"Comedian Matt Brown. Says it's hard to be an interracial relationship with himself. He recently posted that the black man and the white woman that lived in my head have been arguing this week and it's stressing him out. Part of him wants to visit a beauty salon and the other half wants to see the world burn while he sits on the couch today. Matt Brown joins us to chat about being biracial child who couldn't fully embrace his blackness until he was a young adult. Listen as we talk with a very funny and Fem tastic Matt Brown about this and all the hot news. The National Football Team Washington celebrates blackout Tuesday but still refuses to change racists name Grinder Kicks Off Pride Month by ditching. It's a misty filter and Liam Michelle's new catchphrase shit in her wig. I'm Fausto Furnace. Mark Billion and this is feast of fun. Feast Fund has been possible because a fabulous people. Just like you thank you for your support Lou. Hello is this Matt Brown? Is this the telephone company? Are you going to come and sell the land line? Is it nineteen seventy-one? Where's my mother? Please hold to the to the. They still have hold music though these days. Oh yeah you can choose it. I work for like a university and when we put you on hold like our university jazz band starts playing it's hilarious. You're calling the dental school. Being like high. Is the clinic. Open today for urgent care. I know the world's closed down but I have an abscess and in the here done and Ana that data to the phone number there so they can listen to it literally literally call any fucking school and they will do the free music that their kids made ten years ago and never update. It's so good to hear the sound of Your Voice. You know I've been told that the sound of my voice could sail ships and cause action so I feel fully. It'd be happening right now to a boat right. I mean listen. It takes two to tango but sometimes I just put lipstick on my fingers and certainly when jerk offs you got to be who you WanNa be so matt. How are you holding up in this quarantine and this black lives matter protests world? We live in. Well I feel like quarantine is still like that same level of US Brown. Doing just fine. I think never have to leave my house again. I'm willing to do that like it's really. It don't hurt me. I'm not a Gora phobic. But like I definitely see that those people have some points I do miss interacting with human beings and I miss seeing you in person. I don't Miss Mellon people who smell bad. I'm really happy that like about me just shower. Because he's gotTa take a shower. You Know Matt. We're going to talk about the cleanliness of people's asses. You know important. It is to me that everyone lost their ass with a rag and then not use it the next day. Yes you know Martin. Lawrence got from Saturday night live for doing a bit about that. He did it's important to wash your ass like it's basically almost got senator and live pulled off the air because he did like a bit about women's Genitalia on their butts and stinking is and it was a it was a crisis like even to this day. They don't show that episode Right Right. They do they now show. It really was a pandemonium of at that time. And but all the COMEDIANS are like. Oh that's no big deal. I think that we have really understood. That musters basket must be a big Martin Lawrence Fan. Why do you say that? Because Martin Lawrence started the conversation about stank procedure and then Murphy brought it into the drag. Mainstream does morals at all times. Well physician heal thyself is all. I gotta say. What about the guys who don't WanNA clean their house because they're afraid it's going to be gay? Who is that person that did that? It was a lot of people under bread. It these men who are just disgusting. They were telling their girlfriends that it was gay to touch their ass or anything like that in like baby. The doctor is going to do it. And you're gonNA like it so all. You're the you're the doctor. Now Dr Brown Miss Brown Squire. I'll take them all. I do love the status. Update that you posted earlier today on blackout. Tuesday I've been very active. You've been very active he wrote. It's really hard being in an interracial relationship with myself the black man and the white woman that live in my head have been arguing this week. It's been tough for both CAM. And Ari'el they're really. I mean both of them are here in available to speak on it but like they've they've just been struggling ladies first. I don't know because you see him. The white woman in my mind. She's really upset about the fact. She can't get her eyebrows done that she starts. She's starting to have a light brown mustache like Tina Turner on. She can't get her jail nails on Kim's just pissed over very petty reasons that have nothing to do with anyone's life because she's a political moves everybody and around and then derail is ready to be Kim's ass ready to riot but Durrell already got locked up back in the nineties on a drug so his niece's Kinda fucked up from having to beat a lot of negative asses back in the day so he staying home and sitting this one out but let me tell you he's pissed whether or that Shawshank Ni. Durrell would be out there doing some business Is it true that at the age of twelve you found out you were biracial that your parents spent most of your life? Your family spent most of your life until the age of ten trying to hide the fact that you had a black father. Yeah no you're you're right. I was talking about that on facebook too because I actually made a really silly joke saying that My grandma was so racist. She would need cheese of got to dark with. I think is a funny visual being sandwiches. Negro getting out of my house like that's hysterical. That's just a fucking funny visual but Know the truth of it wasn't it wasn't even ten. I was twelve. It was young because my grandma died when I was twelve years old and it was sort of. That was her idea that she I guess honestly must've liked prayed like over the ice. She must've sat on another stomach. Like chicken with EG crank that I turn out as light as possible and it worked. It's really admiriable that you talk about these painful topics in your comedy. But in a lot of ways right now we're living in such urgent and depressing times that your comedy kind of feels very vital and very current. Thank you think you and I like making jokes about stuff like that because honestly there are a lot of misrepresentations about what it is like to grow up both black and white in this country people typically sink for whatever reason this is a carryover from slavery that if you're halfway you automatically have a ton of money but when you look at it I mean it tends to be the white trash that lives bad black neighborhood that ends up not caring what color anyone is kind of having kids with whoever. This is a topic that we hear a lot in discussions about race is that race is really a construct. Totally and purity is a construct holy and we just create these ideas and then actimel out because they become part of the social comments. Since I mean there's just so we have lived without the concept of race longer than had it. Nobody was really raced in. I have a degree in sociology and Black Studies. Not Talking to my ass. Run Kapiti article like the article. Did I'm proud of you and I'm happy for you but I with my confer degree Can tell you that lake. No one was really raced until around. Eleven hundred or twelve. Because that's when you started to see Jewish people being burned at the stake for being Jewish. That happened in. Russia that happened in northern Europe. And that was sort of like the first sort of idea of that. There was something different than Christian wight in the in the meaning because back in the day on you would be identified like in the year six hundred or whatever you identified by your religion at your race. So that's why we say Jesus was a Jew Othello. The more like Oh it was your it was your relationship to deity that defined who you in. How people treated you so then around. Oh like the year. Twelve hundred or so is when people started putting meaning on Brown skin and started putting meaning on certain facial features but they did not have meaning until well. Well well after the advent of colonization and well well in like know deep like pre renaissance basically and a lot of this duality and people in Puerto Rico and Latin America. There's a word called three anyo. We literally means of three heritage's the African the native and the European. And I think actually it's a beautiful concept because you know in a lot of ways as somebody who comes from the three cultures or more cultures. We have a rich heritage to draw upon on. We have the strength of all these stories and ideas foods and languages to enrich our lives and it's something to be celebrated is certainly not something to be feared or hated upon but racism as life. Would you said is is a Fad. Because this is something that almost seems like it stemmed as a reaction and as a consequence of colonialism owed totally. And then you'll also get to the point where you start to realize the concept of Whiteness and the concept of masculinity are almost identical in how they form themselves which is a man is nothing. He's just everything a woman isn't and then a white doesn't really have any intrinsic value or meaning is just the opposite of whatever I say. These black people are it has no basis has basically anything of its own no real quality of its own no real definition of its own it exists as a reaction. It exists to limit others. It doesn't exist in a without with growth mindset. My mother was born and raised in Mexico but her parents were racist white people and they were very fearful that my mother would marry an fall in love and marry a Mexican man that they try to put Hernan in a sane asylum and three days. Yeah they locked up for three days when she was a young woman and fortunately they got her out and it was a huge to do later on in a teaching job in Puerto Rico. She married my father quickly married him afterwards and there was always attention. My family about who we were as people year where we were not quite Puerto Rican and not quite Americans either not quite white people either so rejected both sides of the family. Was that similar to your own experience. Yeah no that's like one of the many many things I like to sort of correct. The perception makes people like you said earlier. Everyone thinks we all have money. Also everyone thinks that we come from these racially progressive families. That don't have to deal with any of that shit. Had it all figured out before we came along like everyone's just a great fabulous person with a ton of education and a ton of learning and understanding and everything was Hunky Dory so the reality of your family upbringing was they were poor and uneducated and deeply deeply racist 'cause it was the only leverage they had and so my family had to have all those same weird conversations up but it was without being dinner. You know how do we manage this shit in the same way? Your parents did because they had these kids. That weren't necessarily you're typical Latino your typical white kid. And then you already have Puerto Rico which has enough English there to where. If you're American you can just Kinda fucking figure it out. So like anything's any up for grabs inhalable came out for light. It was also that situation of anything was up for grabs because they lied to me and said I was Cuban for a couple of years and so after it became obvious that I was not just white and I was like just not letting it go after my grandma died So like because I was lighter and had lighter is there was sort of like again. Anything could have happened bullshit. Anything will figure it out tomorrow because it's not identified kept pushing it off and pushing off and then. How did you finally come to the knowledge? So this is the timeline of it. They just told me I was wait until I was about twelve and I just associated with a mirror because I was like. I didn't understand like it didn't make sense. I sort of like still to this day. Don't really get like when I look like without makeup on and they saved my head every week four years and years and years almost eighteen years that way. I would never have hair so I wouldn't like they wouldn't have to deal with that part of it because that's most obviously black thing about me off my face and then Then around twelve. I moved in with my aunt and my aunt said I don't know. I think you're probably Cuban or something. I remember one of those guys. Your mom was running west and then that that was kind of default and then I finally got my DNA tested when I was eighteen and in college. Nineteen and then college actually and When I all my immune was like okay. This is what's going on there like. Oh that's nice. Do I read in the paper today that we're getting a new McDonald's like very like we're not dealing with does not know why you called me. You gave them the hard percentages gay. I'm like a glitter. Like there is no well. He might have been vaguely. It's like no. This was a fucking dirt. Black man like this was a dark man does ape around fucking human being. This was not like anything. Well I didn't no no no no like you knew. I was black So it was like a Mari. Show you the baby's father basically but we never found the father. We found cousins but we have not found a father. Did you see a picture of him? No almost fucking everybody. It was the ninety. She liked drugs. She's busy at so in terms of like navigating China. Your calendars normally full of navigating. This for yourself like for a lot of people who come from different cultures in the same family or heritage's races. It's something that we all have to define for ourselves who we are as people and sometimes that definition clashes with the expectations are family. Put upon us. Yeah no I can definitely see that. I mean. My family had more issue at the fact that I was black and the fact that I was gay literally. No one was interested me being gay. They didn't like the makeup and they didn't like the blacks ing like everybody knew I was gay from the time I could put a sentence together and there was no space. Be Mad at it like it was literally so obvious in so clear as a whistle like I stopped entire eight hour car ride because I forgot my barbies night. Made them pullover and go to a target at the age of four I had demands and they were baggy demand of love. You I do not have the choice to be anything in anyone other than exactly who? I am taught adult times emotions on my sleeve. I was a gay kid. I was at neurotic teenager. Three doubt adult. You studied opera. I mean come on exactly I mean. Can you talk to the Hawk or about a self involved human being? I can't sit in that draft and I would really like it if you could turn off the air conditioning. While I'm here I have a competition a week. I have to protect my voice. Like your freak. You're literally a self involved. Freak Sam and from there on you found out that you were mixed heritage at the age of twelve twelve and then two years later started listening to know that year anything right now. I know about you guys before I knew I was black. Why haven't you suffered enough? 'cause like to have to to have to deal with like some of the things that go on and not be able to say. Muslim soccer away. I didn't know how to them. You know just you're right I have suffered. I've toiled and I'm here. I love it and that's what I love about you. You're kind of like a young Queer version of earth. A kit for me like I never understood who I was in this world until I read her by Multiple Viagra. Fay's because every every so five years earth. A kit throughout her career would re write her own biography but some of the new. So one was Tuesday's child. The other one's confessions of a sex kitten when there's essentially only like a new fifteen pages and every basically yeah and check them out of the library like I'm going to get the other about. You know being blacklisted. Or living in Europe for dancing for the Katherine Dunham Dance Company. Or you know falling in love with a Turkish royalty or whatever you're like this is exactly word for word the same chapter. It's Tuesday's child now and you're just like she was so brilliant she Described writing her memoirs as she would make a hot pot of coffee and drink and write and get it all out one day and to me. It's like Kinda hide you. That's exactly what you do. Yeah Oh yeah. There's a ton of coffee and a lot of cigarettes on a lot of weed and I pace and then I write like really law like I will not. I'm not one of those people who has the discipline to write every day. I wish I could but I can like sit down and have a very busy week of really writing and then walk away from that with like twenty minutes of material that I then spent several on making perfect. I very prolific in a short period of time. But I can't like do this tiny bit of digging every single day. I'm like Earth. Give me my coffee. Give me a cigarette. Give me some. Give me some time. I will give you something you like. And give me some vegetables you add another syllable in there. Somewhere anywhere Jetta Bulls. Thank you thank you. I am cooking video of Ertha shoes like on a cooking show in the nineteen eighties with be Smith Vegan. Show wasn't there was no because they did they get in the military had Turkey sausage and so they were like I do like Bertha and and the woman who are doing well because they preferred Fat Back in Ham Hawkin stuff. But that's not good for the for the hot so earth is like completely doesn't give a fuck in this video running around. They're making soups. And ARTHA ladles. Out the soup and starts eating out of her hand like fireproof hands or something. Well the were probably been sitting there in the kid in the set for a while so I don't think they were hot. And so she earth just trying to when you didn't worry about covert nineteen drake bags debbie higher in a pot of soup. You just sit network away. Vegetetable release you asked. It'd be clean. I know right and smell vaguely tomato paste. So how are you self caring during this time like I urge everybody says Napa Lot eat? It's just I feel like social media social engineering and in some ways. It's great that we're becoming aware of all this injustice but at the same time I think it's also big used as a tool to divide and conquer us. Well I wouldn't say that's a thought or a hypothesis I would say. That's what Mark Zuckerberg wakes up with on his fucking mind. And so does Jack. Dorsey how can I get everybody to set the fucking planet on fire but do it on my website? At how do I get rich off of it because in the vested in the downfall of society self care is limiting? The time that you're on social media if you can you know just like when you were a kid your parents are like you watch twelve hours of television today and you're like. I don't feel so well my head hurts my be like mad. I think he can get up to sixteen glitzy. You can go for marketing and feel good if you can go full day and not speak a word to me. You know how the microwave works. Let's play a game you know when you're young and you start going out drinking with your friends you're like. Oh my God. I'm the Queen of the world. I am having so much fun with my friends. Yeah let's have another beer. Let's have another cosmo and then the next lines. Yeah some lines and then the next day. You're like Oh my God what did I do to myself? I? I really remember. Twenties much wilder. The only thing I really remember about the euro is twenty one is that I don't remember really anything after six. Pm But six am. I was just always shitting just liquid. That was really the next morning. All the whiskey came out of my as legacy sire. It's called the Hershey squirts. It's called the I'm never bottoming until twenty twenty eight so that's like to give yourself a chemical burn on the inside from alert like I have seen things. Yeah anybody who thinks that you know? What is it a cinnamon flavored or pepper? Flavored Vodka Lakers or whiskies is a good thing. You're being lied to. It's literally you are going to blow it all out of your ass literally at secretive. Yeah and part of it is like you know it's all about marketing poison to lgbtq people. I think oh totally. Yeah but I was blacked out in shitting for about a good year year and three months. Yeah you know it's pride month and it's like if you go to like the few stores that are open like the walgreens or something. You can see a shelf in there. That's like Johnson and Johnson's pride month listerine and I'm like what the fuck is this bullshit. We're told me baby oil. GimMe something I can use to fuck you. Fuck with baby oil. I've fucked with the bitten. A prayer I- coconut oil. Coconut water. Mineral off you like. What's the best slide? I think now like it's my problem. I don't really whatever. They like whatever's already at the house. Oh isn't it so funny when I bought him a over be like do you have and I'm like you have an asshole? Don't you remember? I can't find anything to masturbate with so you went to your mom's bathroom and there was like a jar knock Sima beauty cream. You Burn Your Dick with that. You're like Oh my God this whole. I'm in Hell. I've like trades house and they're just like you brought loop with you I'm like Yeah because you never know you shop at somebody's house and they don't have any hate. What is this Eddie date allowed it? Oh yeah go into the kitchen. And they pull out the non non sticking spray and just just pam all over your ass. Help that works. Do you remember Eddie? Murphy's raw or special what does it delirious also was. I think he only did like to tell me the joke. I'll remember. He's basically talking about how horny was and he wanted to masturbate and I think it was a he had put on as Dick. Oh that's hilarious. And he's like screaming bloody murder. You know any six sixes Dickin- the sink to wash it off and his grandmother washes in and catches them and says Eddie. Why did you stick your Dick in the sink? We my sister and I got hold of that comedy album when we're like ten years old or something and we used to how with laughter and our parents had no idea where we're listening to that stuff on our walkmans funny. Did you ever hear the first Song Eddie Murphy? Ever did. In your in your. It's me laugh so hard in the most stupid fourteen year old boy way like put a tree in your but put music. Put me in your but yeah total of that song at the funny thing is Eddie. Murphy's that after that song and actress Saturday live started to think of himself as a serious musician and single. That was actually pretty good called party all the time. I used to dance that in the club party all the time. We're that moment. But I need you to know that. The next album was so shitty. He did a duet with Michael Jackson. No one's still bought the fucking out but you realize how bad I don't even remember with the number one selling male vocal artists of all time. And you still can't get anybody by but you know this is after. He was making fun of Michael Jackson for having like he did a bit in. Stand up comedy whereas Mr T. and Michael Jackson were gay lovers. That's hilarious though but like I've met Mr T. and there's nothing vaguely gay about him. So I think Eddie's daughter she's a very good comedia- like no no. Oh Yeah because I heard Mr daughter is a stand up. Comedian Chicago very funny comedy. Central's has been another network. She tours when the world's Open Erica Clark as fucking hysterical as she said in one interview that Erik that her family like all relies on her dad paying the bills and it like it like weighs on him terribly. I mean that might have been the case in one thousand nine hundred ninety five but I'm pretty sure everybody has grown like and taking care their own ship now. She's always had a job. She makes a great living doing comedy. I can't speak for the rest of your family but I think she might have been talking about like the year two thousand. Yeah probably something like that. Did you hear what your kids are? Fifteen and you're supposed to pay for him you know. Did you hear about Michele the glee one of the actresses? Michelle first of all. I'm sorry L. You're talking about I the show. Yeah she's the knowing one. Yes are Har- The lease Hussein's everything out of her nose. And we're supposed to call it a guest She's she's supposed to be a Dell does the. Yes what what did I? This is just like this crisis that we're going through. I just can't remember anything anybody's names anymore. Both have menopause bringing in could be. It could be might be pause. Why because I I just recently went to the doctor and I'm very distraught because he told me I'm barren. I will never be able to carry a child trying on. He keeps the faith show. Michelle do you know. A post about black lives matter and one of her cast mates. From the show Glee Samantha. Murray wear is just like what what she's like. You'd never supported anybody. In fact you told people on the staff the show that you would like to take ship in my whole area. What does that even mean to take? Shit what the fuck do you mean? What does it mean to take us shouldn't away? Was it a good thing I've like? It's not a good thing to take us like USO girl. I WanNa Take Shit near where no. I'm so mad at you. I I WANNA take a shit in your way or it's like I'm so confused I wanNA take us in your wig like I said. Well what about if somebody said? They wanted to take shit in your hat. How would you feel about that? And he's like well. I guess it would be a bad thing right. Well we remember back in the early days of the live musical variety. Show Feast of Fools. That became this podcast an expression that was said when somebody bombed on stage was they shit the stage and then they'll say that we but in the early days of Ru Paul's drag race the data rates in town used to say. Oh my God that was so fierce. She's shit the stage so became a good thing. Like good is bad bad as good. You know you're so hot you're cool and so bad Shimon. But then she said that and then everybody else whoever was been on the show has also like it was just like get her. You know one girl. She didn't talk to me for one whole season. Initial I was just was like a mean person and part of it is like you know a lot of the chemical struggle with a lot of mental health issues. And sure I mean. There's there's a litany of whoa in the CA- Michelle is like the least of their issues between the child part of the heroin. I really think that between show is cursed right. They were engaged when he died. But I will say for Liam Michelle to threaten to shoot near Wig. That's like a serious threat from her. Because she's GonNa Take Jewish lactose intolerant shit right in that. Where like it is going to smell that way? What she like. You're getting some brisket today. Food necessarily know the contents ever diet. All I know is that there's a genetic predisposition to shit liquid the motto going Bloop Bloop bloop literally. No because like I've been doing stand up and then also like just been a lot of professional music for a lot of my eyes so I have a lot of Jewish friends who are in there fucking twenty and it's like. Why is everyone dinner order so long like everyone has ibs? Like I also can't really eat spinach anymore either or Broccoli. I also have issues but leg just noticing that like all of my friends are in their twenties mildly ethnic and can't eat Nixon. You know I will literally Fart for three days like I will have to get my boyfriend like into the fucking shed like. It's not tenable. Oh Wow yeah sting lady lady right couture one time. We were at a restaurant together and I was like having a Salad Broccoli. And she's like I can't believe you have Broccoli and I'm like what's the big deal lady right. Qatar is the CO host of hey queen with Jonny McGovern. Vienna Nobel lady ran for the listeners. All the people anyway she. She's turns around and she's like you. You see that tree over there. Would you eat that? Well why why? Why are you eating this Broccoli? Like she was so it wasn't like she didn't want to eat the Broccoli. She was mad that I was eating the understand how anybody could eat broccoli. Some kind of cruciferous vegetables. Brussel sprouts cabbage. Brussels sprouts support you. They fight cancer in your Babich Chinese vegetable I thought Jesus was cruciferous why they congress differs because it looks like across the flowers they look like little crosses myself food preparation and all these things. I literally can't make a tuna sandwich. I like. I'm useless well. One day when the quarantine is over which is hopefully in the near future. We will do a cookie drag queens with you my dear friend Matt and we will make cruciferous vegetable. You know I really think the people would really enjoy the like you know making the meals that I'm so well known for like cheese and crackers and bread and butter and you know Parmesan cheese that you bought from the store on top of Pasta that you bought from a restaurant you know really just like classic up everywhere I go. That is a common reaction to people like when they're celebrities are guests on cooking shows. And you watch us all on Youtube. It's like they all kind of want to interfere with the idea of cooking show. It's like be invited to be in a band and not want to play any music if you okay. Here's the thing. If you are a well known person who wanted to be a well known person for a long time. You don't learn how to do things like drive or do laundry or coke. You'RE GONNA have toll team for that sooner than later. So ben worry about it in fifteen years. Jay Leno draws all his driving and has like an insane collection of cars and he hasn't now like television show. Do you think he just any of his money. Liz You listening. For spent any of his money he kept doing. Vegas kept doing the road and he saved all of his fucking talk show money so he probably has fucking five hundred million dollars in a vault. Of course he has more cars than he's ever had friends and he now has a television show where he drives expensive cars kind of like a Jerry Seinfeld comedians in cars getting coffee. Only it's just about the cars and in the latest episode he and ask the foul founder of Tesla. Were driving their new truck around which I guess. Tesla has an underground tunnel running underneath Los Angeles. Did you know this? What do you mean? There's an underground tunnel that TUSLA's built and they're hoping to build more these only tesla owners and it's basically like a little elevator that you put your car in it. Goes down into the tunnel and the car drives itself down the tunnel. And that's it and if you car breaks down there's a parallel tunnel for it to like get saved and all this other stuff. Yeah I saw it on television. I was like I must have been dreaming. Think you just like this is insane. There actually is already secret. Tunnels running under neath the city of Los Angeles. And I've just I was blown away by that. I don't know how long it is. They were talking about it. Being a prototype and the focus of the show was to be about the car but I was just so blown away. That like they're like. Oh Yeah we're building a tunnel for the for the rich elite. Be Able to avoid driving on traffic and everyone's like cool that. Oh yeah okay. I've never heard of that shit until right now but let me tell you. I am grateful. I read the Hunger Games. I'm prepared to live underground. I'm prepared to send a twelve year old to war so I can eat. I'm very like unprepared for that moment. In time volunteering yourself as tribute. I have ugly cousins. Who can go? I have hideous bucktoothed cross eyed cousins and fucking Fancy Prairie Illinois. That can go antsy. Prairie is a place. That's the name of a fucking town. My great grandmother was born there. Fancy prairial and of course of course where else did you hear about Alexandria Cossio? Cortez this is the thing about like pride and you know branding and corporations like you know I. It was like the controversy of Pride Corporation sort of the struggle and the celebration of lgbtq people fight for equality wanting it to sell products like oreo cookies or mouthwash or whatever and some of these companies don't necessarily align with our needs as people when they're not marketing to us right then came the covid nineteen crisis and they were sort of using. You know there were doing a lot of statements but there were also like secret. Ads Now with blackouts used a lot of corporations were wonderfully actually think like Reebok or sesame street lot of companies were issuing statements. That you know they're blackout support. Black lives matter and so on but then like the you know the what is it. The Washington redskins Washington redskins posting black lives matter and Alexandra Cossio. Cortez and a lot of other people were like if black lives matter if native lives matter. Change the name of your sports team because it hasn't everyone kind of change it for twenty years and they've been saying suck my Dick Basically. Yeah so I don't understand why it's going to change for a oh see or BBC is the part of the point of these protests. Right now is to really make some kind of change. I guess up in Minneapolis. The school districts severed their contract with the police department In Minneapolis. So you know that's something but you know of course people asking for more but they want more you know. I just think that's a very unprogressive of her because she's kind of going over there like Hillary and being like you guys should just stop it. When like Bra fucking secretly organized someone have somebody blow up there fucking administrative offices. Stop being fake. We get to that. Can that's what everyone else is doing how you get shit done until you dig in their pockets. Losing money in head start to roll. No one gets shit. You do not get a revolution and get a balance of power by asking nicely by being a good person. That shit's been over for about three hundred years. There's a ocean ocean of difference between you know. Revolutions being messy and people standing up for the rights and an emphasis on violence. I'm just saying that she could get five hundred. Cherokee nations to go over there and blow him up in. It wouldn't take five seconds or a phone. Listen to this corporate media right. Now and Republicans and fascists in this country. Want to put a lot of emphasis on violence when most of the protests are peaceful And as a consequence of that they're hoping that it's going to get them to be able to have another four years or indefinitely. Trump just declared himself dictator. Well one. That's already going to happen and then to We can very real possibility. It's a very strong possibility. And then also if the people who are critiquing the violent protesters making themselves public about it. They probably won't have a voice too long so I wouldn't worry about but part of it is I think we have to be really mindful. And how we talk about what we're seeing on social media you think everybody's got Di Fausto. I'm very deary except me but we have to seriously though we have to be very careful how we talk about this because of the fact that we're playing into the divide and conquer approach. I've had people message me on social media and they're like who is this person that you're friends with and the and I'm like and I'm like I don't know I do a podcast that thousands of people have listened to. I do a web series. I've interviewed over thousand to thousands of people over fifteen years and I'd like to think that the people who listen to this podcast on a regular basis are inherently good people. But I can't control who's following me on social media now if if something if you WanNa talk to them and you're mad at them or whatever engaged with them or block them or or tell them they're full of Shit for me nobody. Nobody is disposable. And the reason why there's so much money being poured in to discredit all. These extraordinary demonstrations is because at the end of the day. These demonstrations have the potential to change the world for good. If this was about hearts and minds everything would have been fixed by now. This is about the government. Racism is not it's a fucking practice in its institutionalized people reflect the government does the government does not create laws based off white trash. Okay so that's already backwards. I don't care about anyone. I don't care about anyone's mind I cannot fix your racist asp because guess what you are right. No one's disposable. We don't get to throw anybody away but if you put yourself in the garbage. I'm not plucking you out. You stay there and Land Shit. They call themselves deplorables. If you put yourself in the garbage lay there in beaded racist trash. You are be the homophobic trash you are and you should enjoy people talking to you like the garbage that you are because you have self identified as such take the heat because you got a big ass mouth so you can take it from someone else. I agree with everything you're saying but it's also not my job to try to educate somebody who is so the Hammond as opposed to the meaning and the message of the Blackhawks. You're not talking about education aren't talking about completely harassing and abusing them. Because they're asking for it and part of it. Is You know what that's what facebook is for. That's what what they want to do that. They're literally building this platform so we can fight with John. I literally love going on Facebook. Finding Racist White People in saying your daughter Sucks Negroes. Your daughter grows your daughter threats. It's my favorite thing to do in the world but you you also spent a lot of time living your life developing your comedy doing things that like. You're not really spending a lot of time and energy worrying about these. Are you know totally totally totally living my life because the thing is those craziest racist people don't really upset me because I lived in their house for eighteen years? And there's nothing they can say that the surprise I have lived there been through it. Had it done to my face and then told the NAPA world look like to you I just think we need to have women in charge of everything for like four years straight. I just think we just all the meant left. I just think all the wars would stop. I think all the pissing matches as far as like not trying to go across the aisle with just stop Listen DASS saint waters. How she'd feel about a black nationalist party and she says she's not ruling it out so I don't know there's always that as an option like if we can just sway the vote just enough to make go realize everybody needs to vote progressive or we're gonNA to vote or like the black people are GonNa vote so independent. We can count on it that we have to do so that way. Republicans don't happen Lake Lee. Everyone wants are black vote. Everyone fucking watches it. Everyone wants it till the election happens. And they don't care about black voters so I think we can really use that power of people watching and being nervous about our voting power. We need to use that to the best of our ability in. Maybe a little unrealistic. About what our true intentions are just to scare them because they think we're a lot crazier are. I would like to see things not continue as they have in the past. They said the same thing after the civil war than they handed everybody who owned the plantations back their without the slaves and then they just bought people about different kinds of people later on. It's like that betrayal of Allen at the end of our show and she saying to each other but then on our free time she's hanging out with George W Bush is real live. Oceans are show saying. Be kind to one another in anyone who's ever worked for her. We'll tell you she's miserable and hateful an awful. She says it's just sour grapes. I think that if everyone saying the same thing about you you can wake up whenever you want like. If no one except your wife you bought a horse stable. Ford is willing to say you're a great person and it's time to smell. The coffee are not lighter. Note Watch tiebreaking. Oh honey. I'm Joe Exotic third husband. Nobody told you try to tell you. You're not getting the tiger farm. Listen I did not want the tiger farm. I wanted the I wanted the land. You're not getting the land either. Yes I haven't got a Bill Tara on it. I'm Scarlett O'Hara waiting barrel baskin now. Owns Joe's exotics rant? Yes Carol got it. I guess she proved in court. That Joe Illegally transferred it to her his mother and so she's I. It's now mine so I don't know what the the guy who owns it now is like he's got a vacate. Joe Is definitely not a cool cat kitten right now. No no no no. He's he's he's like that fucking Carol Baskin's it's so weird. How he just? He really just hated hated each other. We just talk about how like. I am so much more into his prison hair. No I haven't seen his prison hair. No no no. You have to watch like the seventh episode. It's like it's like the post episode of Tiger King and you can see his prison hair and like I cannot begin to tell you because he's trying to keep up the mullet. But I feel like you only has very blunt scissors. Maybe a nail file of Joe Exotic that they photoshop trump's face on that hairstyle that's the one that they circle. Yeah remember simpler just a couple of months ago. The pandemic was starting and worry about was Joe Exotic and Carol Basket and these tigers while people were worried about a lot but it was like the early days of that. Everyone was like outraged by that. There were it was like this. Lighthearted documentary series. And now there's just so much graver more difficult things that we're dealing with. You know. This is the price we pay for connecting as a country over a television event. We're supposed to stream separately and never be on the same page. So part of it is like you think the problem that we're facing now is because everybody stop for a minute and watched all twelve episodes of tiger king. All I know is that back in the sixties and Seventies. When everybody was racist out loud everybody had the same three TV channels. I think if we all watch the same TV show we get weird as a species I think if we all have something comment on that level to our even our free time is the same. I just think we all ate. Each other lives. Seemed very simple for me as a kid. When I learned how to speak English by watching the Jeffersons. Oh Yeah I'm sure. When Patrick we started selling a fifth year old black woman who smoked your knew exactly what to John's club they going on the Willis's with open iheart his own mother used to call him mother Jefferson. That's Hilarious Guy. That's not true. Every tell you when I was a kid when I was like nine I had a Truman capote impression era nine year. Old Round during doughty. When when I was riding in cold blood I thought was there so much. It's like a quiet breathy lady bunny but a little higher. It's a little carol channing there because it's just blonde faggots from the south and we build diamonds. Our Girls Pass for and or my favorite sentence that Truman capote actually ever did say in real life. He saw my grow them. When did he say that? Ever see the movie where Phyllis Philip Seymour. Hoffman plays this year old. There's thing in the police station actually happened where he's like trying to like be entertaining like he is dedicated people in New York to these cops and he was telling a story about how his pants at ripped and the ad notice because it was so far down the leg that you didn't no one told him till he bent over to pick something up and his entire like BALZAC cop down lake. The COP was just horrified and then he tried to like be like. I got my scarf at Bergdorf Goodman and then the police officers like I got mine at sears and Roebuck. He has no capacity to connected these Hicks. But he's out there to study for two years. When I was a kid the first porn we had was from the sears. Catalog was a men's underwear section. Oh I remember being so embarrassed walking through the underwear section of Kohl's department store my grandmother thinking like she's GonNa see me look at a Dick and then know that I looked at a dick and that I might WanNa do something with that. Was the first porn we bought. We bought those underwear. Like Calvin Kleins like ridiculously expensive. Like three for nine thousand nine hundred but it was expensive at fell execute time. Yeah and unnecessary. You know when I was kid. I figured out how to get my dad's information and subscribe to International Mail catalogs because my parents weren't even settled for wrestling magazine. You had to be that obvious if I if I wanted a solo flex catalog to masturbate to. I would just put my dad's name and so my mother saw. Oh well he's on some mailing list. You know still didn't never never if it doesn't turn them on the public and I would like know catch the mail and who always see like solo flex or international mail be like. I'll take the bathroom thank you. I think you made a really big point there. About like how? It's not sexual them. They would never notice like honestly. I think that there is such a degree of fetish in the gay community. Like it's just very popular because when we're forming our sexuality it's typically around Shit that's actually not sexual because I don't know what it is that we so like if you fuck shit at your teddy bear when you are nine. You're probably afraid you're into bears. Well sometimes you know you work so hard to hook up with somebody and then after you're done having the sex of the person you're just like kind of regretting it or you know like if you go home with somebody you just met and you're just like find you look at the shelves books on their shelves and you're like. Oh my God you're into rush limbaugh as you like. Put your pants on getting the fuck out of there. You know. You have no idea how many times I've said that Dick was not worth by hundred and seventy five dollars worth of leather. I let he who has not regretted sucking a dick throw the first stone of scorn near I am sitting on the number seventy seven bus with a ball gag in my mouth just trying to get home on a Friday. I L basically literally just in full leather suit like even the ones that the straps on the back so that way. The guy is fucking. He doesn't have to make contact with your skin. He can just like us the straps like your animal or something or machine lake all. Yeah yeah full. Leather suit just on the bus chilling. Nothing sexual about it just bitter and just sitting covered in some evil evil costs ever go to I l. or or the the black leather prime event onyx the southern Baptist leather. I'm scared of all that ship. I'm scared of three cents. I'm scared a leather. I don't even like blowjobs. I think it's ungodly never been Tai L. Like I never been to a like an expo with like that self dildos or things like I thought you were. I would literally start crying. I would start weeping like a seventeen year old at their first strip club. Who is like a virgin? I would literally freak out in a way that you're not even prepared. I didn't know about you I thought you were. I didn't know you were just a one on one kind of guy. Oh narrow because like when you've been Melissa you need to plan on your sexual situations just to like avoid issues like I'm not trying to have a PTSD attack in the middle of the sexual situation. So I need to know who's GonNa be there. How many what time. What position like area orders numbers Kama Sutra number? Four like I got to know what's going on or someone might get shot to build your safety zone. Oh Yeah No. Because I literally like cussed out guys while they're inside may like it's not a look off like if you're going too fast and you don't listen to me. I will literally pull out. My grand voice used both my hands to push you off of a out shit every day. Get up as that. Your Voice Sats like my like echoes. The neighbor's can hear you almost. Who Scott Buddhist over? It don't matter it don't matter but somebody knows like an event almost took place. That was not to happen. What are the when Scott? Thomsen kids in the hall. Try to use a straight voice. He would be like I think so. That's too expensive. I don't think any of those can do a good straight voice. I just do a lot lower one because I have the range of doing but I don't really think it sounds street. I just don't think it sounds I. I don't think it sounds the fail. It's very easy to do. You just imitate Jason. Eccles from supernatural doesn't watch that show I not going to watch fifteen seasons the stupid fifty seasons. You'll get our friend Brian. Sweden loves that show and he says it's the most brilliant television show ever. That's on a long list of things. I've heard him say that. I wish I had. Yeah Meteo supernatural very disappointed. This last season I wanted to kind of end so I can move on with my life. What are we going to do tonight? The same thing we do every night so could fuck each other. We wrote them Win Zest Porn for him for Brian. That was one of the funniest things we've ever done on this podcast. Besides talking to you is convincing a straight guy. We're friends with to read K. Slash fiction born. I really don't think I could ever be quite quite quite as dynamic as Gave her pay fan section. I don't I don't think there's any match for that. You mean no no but you know what slash fiction is right slashes. When it's gay right so slash comes from the origins of Kirk Slash spock case slash S. Where fans of Star Trek is mostly women. Heterosexual women were fantasizing about the intimate relationship. Between Captain Kirk and spock. And so they would write stories about this. You know the further adventures of the enterprise and so sometimes if they had like a three way if it was like Kirk spock like Sulu case slash s last S. And that's where it's slash fiction came from and so there's an ocean of really amazing riding in a lot of it is feminist writing. Actually my women reading by women for women with a feminist message or overtones and it's mostly gay men or gay male characters having sex with each other now of course there's the other stuff since then but they have a specific wind surrounding just that. Tv show supernatural. Not Terribly terribly surprised that all women who really initiated that whole thing because quite honestly how many fucking women do we all know that would like literally trade their lives tomorrow to be a white gay guy and it's so funny because like straight women. WanNa be gay guys and then Trans Women. Just look at gay guys and says women like both you bitches have it easier than the. Who'S COMPLAINING? About what now with the rise of Paul's drag race and even TV shows like pose a lotta straight gender white women all want to be you know drag Queens or vogue in Queens power to you. Be Nice I want at part of it is. It's fun to imagine being somebody that you're not you know we all sort of have a fantasy about being a different place and time because it's fun to imagine to be somebody else and what enrages me about. It is because they want to look like us like our lives are fucking son every minute of the day like all we do is fucking put on wigs and prance around and like every day's play. Tonoka feels a little bit like a mockery to man there. There have been a lot of lot of gay men a lot of Trans Women a Lotta Lotta entertainers who love to dress up. As SIS gendered heterosexual women even later read couture house a song called rich white woman. Fancy limousine never been any of those things. That's what so much fun about. It is about pretend it's about fantasy it's becoming know. My makeup is no more interesting than stamp collector people on stamps every year and make a love it. Yeah Mike Millions your gender identity and your desire to put on. Makeup are two separate things. Yeah and I'm not saying that these straight women have like gender identity issue. It's just like you do not realize every well they do not realize everything. A Drag Queen has to go through to be a fucking drag queen and gay man at the same time and like navigate dating navigate. Do I have eyebrows or not? Can I get a job if I don't have eyebrows? Like what if they find out about what I do at night? And all see wants to do is fuck it here like hear Madonna saying and pretend she's a gay guy for five minutes. I'm so not interest who. That's probably the most incendiary thing you've said this evening. Cancel called Sir because people are just like Matt. Matt Brown is not disposable. Not at all no the thing I have nothing against fucking says women like I don't really care what you do. So long as like arch fucking like exploiting me And I sort of feel like when they searched coming on. I wish it was a gay guy but they want you to care see. That's that's the dilemma. That we have here is that there's a lot of six women who want to do drag and they want people to care about what they do. They want to and they want people to enjoy their performances and share those performances with other people and to pay the money for and Pay Them. Well taking jobs away from gay guys. That's all I can say. I support Trans Queens. So the end of the year now that make no mistake. I support Trans Queens. So the ends of the Earth. But I just can't really see what fucking straight person has any fucking place on stage after act. I can't put that together my mind a lot of people you know. There's a they're non binary or they might just you know they might appear as women to you but they might consider themselves trans and this is what I talk about. When we're fighting over gigs. We really missing out on the big picture. Republicans and all the guards want US divided. Divide and conquer. We're fighting over. Who gets to have health care who gets to have a home who gets to have food in their refrigerator and who gets to be able to put on wigs entertain an audience and n a just equitable society? Everybody gets that option okay. This is the best analogy I have for. This is the easiest way I can explain it. I laugh at straight guys when they do jokes about gay people because I want them to think that they can be open around me but every fiber in my being wants them to shut the fuck up about me because they don't know what they're talking about and that's just how I sort of feel towards that you really like. I'm glad you're having fun. I'm glad you think it's cute. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about doing. You're getting yourself involved Keep going ahead. But I'm not interested assigned female at birth and SYS gendered women. Drag Queens have been a part of drag culture. They are part of our community. The community no one's accepted me yet. I have seen nobody take my bitch. Sim Matt. You are part of my community. I come over to your house and I love your dog and your cooking and you prove it if the shackled order what's happening and hopefully you will return we use podcast outside. You could do it in the back porch. We could just open up. These motherfucking windows have some street. Sounds coming through rooftop podcast? What what are you going to do like? You'RE GONNA invite the gas to be outside sitting in folding chair or something. Then they come against. Yeah like I was watching an episode of the honeymooners on Youtube and the argument between Ralph and his wife was that they had bought a telephone And he was like. Can't you just open the window and scream your neighbor Thai stairs? What yeah? He did not want that telephone. Yeah he was mad about it. I love watching shows from like the fifties and sixties and just these long long long complicated plotlines. That would be over with a cellphone. I know you just get. I think. That's sometimes why they put some things in the past so that they can use those kinds of devices to separate them or even on the TV show pose like there's a plotline where angel enter boyfriend. He was supposed to go out on a date and he didn't call and he didn't call no she didn't call. She didn't 'cause she was modeling and I'm like couldn't you spend three minutes to call the restaurant to say? Hey I'm not gonna be able to make it and then there's no drama you know. And that's like Ryan Murphy's all those TV shows that come out of that China gaping hole and logic in there. But I still love pose you know and I miss all my tv shows. And I miss my friends and you know one day we will be back together again in a better world. I mean Fausto. You've been a part of a photo shoot. You can't just leave for three minutes. You gotTa Fuck and take off the clothes. They paid for then put up the hair to go out and talking to win that. They spent all the time doing then. You gotta go downstairs. Make sure someone's not the idea to make sure you can get back in. Are they give it to you? Go have to call the operated. Even get the number and that do all that shit then go back inside. Have them fix your hair and put the clothes back on and waste forty-five minutes because you wanted to call your fucking stupid boyfriend? Nope first of all there were things called phone books where the people put their phones on. Top of and second of all photo shoots specially in the eighties. Had A lot of cocaine. Them and people were all you know. They're like hey I'm gonna go outside and smoke for five minutes at that okay. And they're like sure you know none of this like this is like sequestered and you know the world. Are You living in? That people were smoking outside in the early eighties. There were smoking inside but there was smoke in the hallway. There is all kinds of lists. I used to take dance classes and all the ballet dancers would go smoke outside. And if you didn't smoke you were not part of the cool kids and so a lot of like people started smoking and art school or dance school because that was the way that you could socialize network and if you didn't smoke you're Kinda like messing out. Oh yeah same thing. Same thing with fucking doing standup I smoke. Because I do stand up but because I smoke and I do standup I have just networking opportunities. And just that don't exist for people who don't want to be outside and they're worried about their clothes smelling like it Daniel. Dan Shut can't cancer for your comedy career. I mean I was GonNa get cancer for me. So why not have a goal? I know you know back in the days when I spoke. Those are the Times that you would relish. You'd be working like let's go have a cigarette and then you go outside and breathe and smoke and really bond with people a lot of fun. Oh Yeah and especially like if you're like for example one of my favorite moments in life were always outside of the back door of. Uic Library during finals week. Because when I'm stressed out like that I smoke like a pack and a half day and so it's just me and other people like chain smoking three in the bitter cold then running back inside making eye contact but not talking because we're too nervous. It's like so funny and it doesn't matter how cold it is outside. When you smoke it can be minus thirty and you will go outside to have that cigarette. I will literally go outside. Smoke A CIGARETTE SEE. My fingers turned purple. Go back in the lobby. Warm up go back outside and stop a second cigarette Matt so good talking to you you know. I know we've seen a lot of difficult images and a lot of conflicts and there's a lot of good fights being thought right. Now and I encourage recklessness addiction God for entertainment purposes. Only you know lady bunnies show is going to be up. This week. Grew will get your take on June fifth and June fifth so definitely check it out lady dot net you can get tickets and go see that and Matt before I let you go. Did you ever watch nine to five or are you a fan of that movie? I watched that movie all the time when I was a kid. That lying he could testicle sex. Sexist misogynistic bigots. I am in for all parts of that movie. I've seen every lily. Tomlin Movie Dolly. Parton can do no wrong in my life. I. There's nothing wrong with that movie. I'll peggy pope. Those secretary who is famous for being an alcoholic and doing that Attleboro. She died at ninety one years old. No it's about time. Now add a girl you know. Jackie Alaska and Sherry Vine are doing a parody. One year olds are doing a parody of nine to five. Oh my God. That's brewing. I saw that was like listen with ours. You Girls Keep. It should be called five to nine. Because they're up all night. I guess she did. A memoir called the girl tales from a life in the trenches of show business. Because you know that that was very patch girl house her brand shit in the whig. That's my brand now with her. She ready so. If you were shifting away how would you do it? Would you just put the weight on the floor receptacle? You want shed on the inside of the whig not the top of it. Yeah I remember drag Queens buying fake poop and spray painting at gold or bright colors and using as a fascinated with little insects on it and stuff like I'm against about why listen I don't even like to hear poop jokes so I don't WanNa see fake shit. I'm really just not interested. Do tried wings. Were poop is their brand you know. They're they need to stay far away for they can't fucking open for me. I'll tell you that right now. Snow Scott Queens. All right no no the only Scott Queen. I WanNa hear Ella Fitzgerald did you see on now. You are a black guy who only dates black guys. Pretty much not touch white Dixon Charlottesville. Y'All can't act right so grinder. Just changed their policy because of the rioting that they you can no longer premium feature. I believe it was premium feature can no longer filter for race source for a black guy looking for a black guy on a Ryan grinder like that. How do you feel about that is can hinder your quest for but it's not gonNA hinder my quest for Because if you live in a white neighborhood new see a black guy on there. He lives there because he wants to date white guys. So you got to be in the right geographical place leave for you. Just gotTa be smarter than that so you go to a neighborhood were black folks are yeah like I always. I was very popular when I lived at. Uic because it's very close to Pilsen which is a very Mexican and black neighborhoods does little village. It's very Latino and black neighborhood So like I always did well in those quarters but like when I went to Lincoln Park I would go months without any type of contact just because that's a very very white neighborhood like that's the whitest neighborhood like. If the Queen of England was a neighborhood it would be Lincoln Park because she's the white woman on which is weird. Because you know it used to be a Puerto Rican hood at one point in time right. Isn't that what gangs were? Well Gang community centers and stuff like that you know like when I first moved to Chicago I went to a lot of sense. In in humble park is weird because like now when you go there it's like it has hipster central you know but back then it was like that was where all the Puerto Rican events were. Pride parades and stuff like that and definitely the center of it now but Lincoln Park has changed a lot since you know and since the seventies yeah I left the neighborhood I live I live in a different neighborhood now. I just moved actually because I like it was not a good fit like after a while like I just had a NAS. Lake Weird Shit happened to me in the neighborhood in the building that it was sort of like. Okay there's just I need to be here. Take my black ass somewhere else. Or there's other Black Aso's subletting right. We're figuring something and you actually booking comedy shows now right. Oh you know. Headlining in Menasheh Wisconsin. I'm supposed to go to Dubuque Iowa at the end of June Yeah no Miss Brown works anti have like fucking zoom shows between them now. I I will always find a way to make somebody laugh at demand that they pay me for it. Well we appreciate you time with US Matt at really enjoy a friendship in comedy and and you know it's good to be able to talk to today. Thank you so much. I really enjoy all the nude pictures you send when you're bored like it really lifts me out what I did not listen so so when you sex me and my times of need I feel. Is there something going on that I don't know about? Somebody leaked photos nude photos of mark on the Internet but not me boom. We'll also markle literally post a picture of his ass on facebook so I don't know how you can speak to clarify joke to call it a bit from my act needs. Don't leak people do? Oh my God that's true. Did you ever get asked to share your Dick Pics or anything? No one has ever had a nightmare about. Fuck Me Fausto style you never tape. That actually did happen. Talked ABOUT IT. I did talk about the hate. Maury was different. They didn't come. See me perform live. Every guys I have ever ever been going out with has either stopped going out with me after they saw me perform or said. I don't need to see that anymore. Like it's not a turn on vk demeanor that you're going to pull out a rules stick and snap their fingers. Everyone's asked they really. This is more trouble than it's worth coming at me right off. Basically basically like my boyfriend of over two years has seen me performed twice really you know. I want everybody to come see me. I think I'm giving away gold. What's the problem fucking? Milania should come see me. I want everybody there. It is hard when you're close friends with somebody who's an entertainer and you realize that a lot of the material they do on stage is stemming from their everyday experience that means conversations with you and so you're not up to you. Yeah and part of it is like I've been an audience when a friend of mine was performing on stage and I'm like this is just basically our phone conversations before an audience and I'm like I've heard this long before I'm GonNa go get a drink. I'll be right back. Don't have people like that you you know. And I'm like Nah I know exactly what's coming next you know I'm fucking repository material. I have so much fucking Shit. I've stopped I thought playing like a good year year and a half ago and just of throw paint out there because I literally never know what I'm GonNa say until it starts coming out of my mouth and I just sorta make decisions as we go so he's never see the same set at twice in the same order the same way like I literally a Rubik's cube of a comedian like you're never gonna get all the colors just doesn't happen unless you peel the stickers. No one's getting that close to touch. We discussed this. Did you ever get a Rubik's cube as a kid? Yeah and I threw it at the fucking wall one time. My brother got me a gift card that you had to do a puzzle to get the Gift Card to come out and I said you bought it. You fucking figure it out so can use that. I don't care if you have to get a hammer like I don't puzzles. I work for Shit if I can't figure out how to open a door. I guess it's just GonNa stay on lockdown. I hope they don't steal shit like I'm really just if it doesn't come easy it doesn't need to happen. Yeah one time got it roped into one of those escape rooms. That's the White Shit. That's exactly I was like all People Latinos there we're all like this is some bullshit and all the white people like. Oh this fun escape this someone else's like having a PTSD. I was in a detention center for eight months. I was just like this is super fucking annoying. And it's like all these people arguing about what the next step is to take and I was just like this is not entertainment. Get me back to the open bar. Please Oakley's I just think it's so funny. How like these white ladies alike right these status but how sad to see kids in cages and they take their kids to escape room. What the fuck is from the bottom of my art? What the fuck is about how you know? I don't WanNa Piss on somebody else's what does it propose. People really loved them. But it's someone else's Yom I if that is something that you know it's something you're you're you're forced to do by your corporate culture. It's not something you wanted to. I went to one of these things and had no option to the and then they were filming it with cameras and so people were it was like. Oh you stab somebody with the the knifer hit somebody with the candy. We're developing a reality. Tv show and they were sort of like figure out how to take youtube personalities and cultivated into a reality series and so they put them in this panic room or whatever escape room together and you know these type personalities were really obnoxious and off pudding and then everybody else is sort of like you know more community minded was just like well we can just enjoy each other's company so it was like it part of it. It was like you know. Half of the rats wanted to chew on each other to escape the room and the other half of the rats were just like well. Make the best of a bad situation That's such a bad way to do a reality show though because it doesn't it doesn't take anyone's like personality into account like decree casting a reality shows exactly like putting together a lineup for comedy show. Is that everyone's energy has to feed into each other or it's not gonNa work like if you just put a bunch of disjointed things together that have no relation to each other that are that don't have any connection no no common ground. No nothing you're GONNA have a real bumpy time but also I think too. You know part of Improv Culture. Which is kind of at ODDS WITH STAND UP. Culture is that it's always the and it's very pot a lot of up toxic positively whereas you know stand up. Culture is more optimism based whereas we're looking for solutions and we're looking to talk about difficult situations and I think you know that's something. I think you really excel at actually in terms of your stand-up you're always bring up a lot of complicated painful joyful funny hilarious moments in your life and your laying out there bear for to witness and I think that's really something extraordinary and as you continue in your career. You're only going to get better and one day you'll get so famous you won't have any time an all. Oh thank you. Thank you so much but I really don't. The audience may be like that audience. Made me be like that because if it was up to me I would still be doing. Nineteen Sixty eight style. Vegas one liners that revealed nothing about me because I can just write jokes but the style that has become necessary to thrive today and what people really want to hear what makes people follow you on. It makes people stay interested. WanNa come to repeat shows is that they get to know you and they get to know who you are and how you really feel it how you really react so I had to start writing shit about my family and both like a c Lee Way and like a real way. I had to start talking about my relationship in like a silly goofy way and then also like I'm GonNa Kill Him Lake and then like also talking about my own foolish decisions amongst smart. Should I do because all those things are like the constant universals that it's not about reliability? It's about showing that showing who you are is who they are not because they've walked through your shoes but because you can sell it like that and who. You are as a way to talk about my dark nasty ugly dirty horrible horrific life so that way it's palatable the antibody and so happy you see that appreciate it. But I'm telling you know at the audience and the people and the fans of mine fans weather great. Comedians have really made evident to me that. That's the way you do comedy that you make you have to be the funniest version of who you are not have the funniest joke that anybody else could right. That's so true although it would be a real mind. Fuck a gag if you showed up and did woody Allen's material. Wouldn't that be funny where I talk about Jewish mother that doesn't exist for twenty minutes? Do you make up answer on closer cousins. I combine people and I switch voices around so like I was raised by three different women but my mom is one person on stage for my sister. I can't do my sister's because we have the same accent so I do art grandma's voice for her. There's a lot of stuff that moves around. It's about and you fabulous. Matt Emmy Try. I do my best and I'm happy. You guys get out to do my best and be the best dollar. We're glad to have you. Thanks for coming over and playing stand box. Thank you plane. Whatever other box you have available I now hearing supposed to blackbox today on our facebook profile. But then don't do it. Well they do what people are saying do it. And then like other people are like no. It's a fortune ploy to stop down. Whatever but I'll to voices on Black Voice yes. Exactly part of it. Is You know we could use a little self care. And it's kind of like on the days of September eleventh you know you're watching those planes crashing into the world trade towers over and over and over again and certain point you know. We are aware of this violence against black people in this country. Now what are we going to do about? We'll I don't think it's going to work. Because black people like becoming silent or disappearing is literally all that they want. So I can't understand how. That's a revolutionary actor interesting You will never realize my value by making these by me. Choosing to make myself silent me choosing to not participate. You'll realize my value when I fuck shit up. Hearing your voice is is important but I sometimes feel like social media. Doesn't allow us to hear voices. Sometimes it it gets in the way it's deciding which posts get seen and your voice is more than just a single post algorithms up to me so I would just rather not chew. It's just like when I was a gay teenager in high school. I didn't do that day. Silence Bullshit a faggot. Like like me being quiet has never held eligible. Lord fucking set. Your silence will not save you. Silence equals death but you know take a little break. Never heard anybody. You'll never get ahead reflective but you'll never get me silent here have a cocktail have to like you. Don't even understand honey well in your fridge because it's after nine o'clock now and you can't buy liquor. I think there were a lot of wine. I know for sure. We have like three bottles of wine on your soulmate. Do if I have to be so nice to share nice bottle of Chianti with some spritz in that make a little Sangria just miss drinking hot piss. If we're gonNA tell the truth. I missed working. I didn't know you're pissed queen. I mean I'm not but isn't it a fun? Visual tight like someone pisses my eyelashes off just fouled out phase like Katy Perry in the song hot or cold. It's like one minute you're like. I can't go to a leather conference and then you're like I missed people talk about it but I can't do it. I don't understand that's newly shower verbally cleaner because we can't actually beat me ones ass gone. I won't do it. The lady protests who much the Lady Looks Great. The lady per is to to look hosts his. I'll tell you why the lady is a tramp. Why thank you matt for coming on the show? Thank you baby. Have a good safe rescue night and only go outdoors if he's really hot. You didn't. That's not happening these days the UK. They make it illegal for you to hookup for sex. They banned anal. Oh my God. There's another sodomy law. We need to go. Protons close proximity to each other inside of billing so technically you could fuck outside. But where are you going to do that or you can fuck your teeth baby? I how cruiser those toilets because the the toilets Mike the London subway system are very Cruzi. I watch a lot of that on top you in an innocent childlike saw by five Matt Vibe. Up Matt Brown lives in Lincoln Park or are you still live in Lincoln Park and now he's moving to another location here in the city of Chicago. You can find out more about him at Matt Brown Comic Follow Him on his instagram stories and on facebook and and book a bitch for a show. That's right honey. If you want somebody who's funny. Spend some money and bring Matt Brown into your town widely the city of Chicago. You better pay up for crossing stateline. Well it depends if they're covering the travel and the a travel and food and laundry and then I'm willing to take a little bit less money but point blank period. I want everything and I want twice. Whatever you already had in your mind. Yes this is why I tell everybody. Decide what you're worth than charged twice just in case you are underestimating your value. This is the last thing I'm going to say before I leave. Nicole buyer is a very successful comedian. Right now she's Black. She's a woman she's thirty she's just killing it right now and someone else her. What her number one tip is for any comedian who starting to get any kind of success and she said and I quote always asked for four. Always ask for more money in the club. It's a production company. It's a studio day. Fucking have it man for more money? Whoever you're asking for absolutely asked if they have the money to employ you they have the money to put a fucking tip on it and pay them. Well there you go thank you everybody for Listening Bye. Bye Thank you children.

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The Bitcoin Podcast #297-Tushar Aggarwal  CEO of Persistence

The Bitcoin Podcast

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The Bitcoin Podcast #297-Tushar Aggarwal CEO of Persistence

"Now entering guide podcast to our age. So kind listen to this what's up? What's up what's That's my new thing I'm GonNa Start Doing. I'm the host the talks I at the bitcoin. Podcast in my name is is d on the other host. Dr Corey Petty and get take that from big connect. That's always going to be big connect They're never going to be able to win over the hearts and minds of the people in that phrase not associated with big connect. I forgot about Ba. Connect housing about Martin Lawrence Picnic. Took it over for Martin Lawrence so we got something going here? Damn I forgot all about be connect. I guess you can't forget about So sidebar have you yet. I know you've been a doctor for a while. Have you yet been in a situation where somebody was dying in? We need a doctor. And you're like I'm a doctor but not that kind of Dr. No but I've joked about that process quite a few times. Okay is going to happen. I I believe it probably will man first office episode United Seven. We're get real close to three hundred a couple ideas and what we're going to do had flushed should be fun regardless snakes To it by week radio weeks. I've got a lot to say about my week. I was busy New York. Oh Man I was moving in to a destination in the US and Getting unpacked and yeah. It was a busy week but For the most part it was pretty chill so nice grocery store next to where I live. I get really excited about Nice grocery stores because it just makes life so easy gal good grocery store go reliable thing. I didn't go to car story tomorrow. I rarely go to the grocery store because use like these home chef. That's not an advertisement like you said to millennial I just don't like leaving the house. I work from home. I don't need to leave the house. The House it's just that simple. Would you go like see other? Humans I don't I was that was that was seeing other humans all last week in New York that was like I. I don't know maybe when I go do it. I like go see humans too hard. I don't go casually see other humans. Okay to you. Know it's most of my most of my. I'd say most of the relationships that I have that are strong with people are are digitally but you. I don't see that often but I talked to us about every day. That's true that's true. Well I mean yeah I guess it's different because we grew up in a time we're having like digital friends is AO K. Like video game friends Internet friends. So we're able to maintain without avenues each other which is cool. But what what? Tell us about You're in New York right now. I went to Ruled and you John. Ru maybe I can't can't say his name without saying that now. I went to the a few things so the company where for status I guess. Quick announcement on that one status is now a sponsor of the network. You'll be hearing a lot more about them. Why are they sponsor because on the CFO of the company? But I pretty much believe in everything we're doing and you wouldn't be listening to us if you didn't like what I have to say and I that's what I'm doing. So that's what's going to happen. Congratulations man yeah thanks. I appreciate that. This is the first time we told audience. I guess that's true I am I got. I got promoted. I've been working with status for a little over a year and a half promoted to the chief security officer and just try and make sure that I keep an eye on things and and try and make things that don't break and make sure the things that we do make don't break and that the users who use the applications and programs and stuff for us are safe and have the same kind of self custody control and ideology of original crypto currency and bitcoin and stuff so to make sure we don't. We don't compromise any of that type of stuff. That's that's the whole goal there but like what we will be hearing a lot more about status over the years and a little bit more later about why I happen to be in New York. Most of the marketing team is on the is on the United States. And there's a that's about it in terms of like United States employees other than me and one of our smart contract developers in the United States. Everyone else's kind of dispersed across the globe and The good are you gonNA wear a like a police uniform in your video conference calls. Yeah security officers have a badge control up to Thanh. Yeah are you talking about our have so much fun with that position of these stupid? Feel like over the years. Meyer my ability to have fun and has slowly dwindled. Twitchy serious Is but both men. I know right school. That's another like for those who are relatively new to this podcast or this network and you're listening to us for the first time go listen to some of the early episodes and like that'll give you a sense of like how much we clowned around and how. Unim- on serious we were about everything and like over the years whatever. How many years have been doing this five? Six whatever years Slowly turned into like. I'm way more serious cello over the years got way more. Like contrarian cynic cynical cynical is a good word. I don't goof off as much to say like you. You don't alienate some part of the world every single episode racist or sexist or something. That's GONNA offend somebody. I was a huge huge vendor equal opportunity offender that's right but nevertheless so corey was in court in New York and US at a conference in New York And is about enough tease right. Non fungible token non fungible token. So I guess that was the main reason her like what the initial reason is and why we all came into New York are head of marketing lives in New York and so everyone that was close. Just had like a meet up and take care of a bunch of stuff that'd be could while attending was conference So and we we had like a official unofficial kind of sticker market launch which is one of our applications and status. And I'll tell you about I'll fuck that now So we're doing we'll talk about six markets they'll tell you about the launch party. We had first. We went through the day the night before the conference that the night two nights for the conference. I forget which one we had an event. We decided like throw party. Because we have this this new feature that we're launching in pushing forward and trying to expand That's an apt affleck a feature slash decentralize application outside of status called the sticker market and so Status is like a mobile communications thing. So if you think about using telegram what's up signal that's stuff all these things have stickers right so we we wanted we wanted. We wanted to do it in a cryptocurrency way. I'll talk more about that later. But Hey that's a party for the launch. One of our American guys inside so we got on a VIP right. The head of marketing has like a school office space in New York. So we'll just have it here. It'd be real easy. Seventy five people tops should be should be fought right. It's sold out immediately on November opened up a thing on a bright thirty minutes later. Sold out all tickets are gone and I'm looking at like who all registered and it's like you know so on and so forth company got ten tickets because the tickets for free. We just wanted people to show up could get a good idea the headcount because like your script fire marshalls or so on and so forth and figure out how much we need to buy and sell like you go and buy a bunch of beer. Philip Fridge Full Beers on so if we get rid of this party have like a drawing for essence like that. Maybe ten people show up at forgot that during blockchain parties or blockchain conference happened people show up and just get tickets to everything so they have so they know what's going on and they can get in and decide later on if it were not. They're going to go. And so we have a ton of alcohol and like ten people show up shouts calling an avocado. They showed up among all that had hung out. We just hung out and drank for awhile amongst amongst ourselves and then went to bet and so the whole week we just had a virtual beard up Keep ourselves fueled for all this crazy marketing discussion. We had to go through like the start of this stuff a bunch of status marketing planning and Cape New. Kpi's all the good stuff you need to do for planning how to push products out whatever and with the NFC conference which is a non fungible token conference in New York to talk about all of the use cases and products that are pushing NFC's which in which I didn't realize at a lot is a lot. It's huge like Professional sports are getting into this like. Nfl ULTIMA BE THERE OFFICIALLY MAKING ENOUGH. Tea's like trading cards and stuff and like people are people are token icing themselves. Crescendo is doing something with an F. T. F. I was. I was pretty amazed at the level of interest from about that right. It's kind of like merchandising. That a lot of ways. It is exactly as man and while at least at least two marketing folks. It's like how can we make things that people want? That scarce gives them gives them bill to show off what they've done and who they have and trade and make money potentially based on like the value of these enough to us and So on and so forth one one interesting thing that I found through the legal panel of this of this conference was most of the current implementations use cases of teased fall outside the jurisdiction of Securities so that was an interesting discovery that I found like this. This whole market doesn't seem like it's a security issue. Allah ways that's closer memorabilia. It's not it's it's a product man and and it really can be powerful dependent upon the I duNno I'd say the savvy of the marketers involved man because I used to collect cards. I collect X. Men cards and I collected baseball football cards and all that stuff is useless. Like it literally is exactly the bragging rights of like Oh. This was in lot tin of one hundred. And there's only this many of these or you know this was a limited edition. Marvel Ultra painted cards. Like this. There's not a lot of people that have these and there that's the cool thing about NFC's in and there's what the the thing about it like it makes it a perfect thing if you can like. I'm pretty sure kids. Back in the sixties fifties whatever forties. Maybe before that we're just collecting paper in their parents. Were probably like why the fuck do you cares so much about this little two inch by three inch piece of paper in the crazier. That seems the probably better. The idea ends electric to- kitties when I was telling people about Group d'aquin keen and they were like why the fuck would anyone want a cartoon kitten that makes it a great idea? That's that's all you need is other. That's just completely ridiculous. Well it's also it's it's like it's probably scarcely scarce scares you know that if you have one of three it is one of three and no one can stop that. And that's a big part of that type of stuff and you can track ownership and prep track the market and so on so many things you can do to make it easier to prove that you have something that has provable scarce and potentially find others who find that valuable supposed to like your local market. Doesn't necessarily care if you have this one of three yu-gi-oh card that no one else cares about. What about the Sneaker Game? What if you obey that we do out? That was a big part of that like Brent branding around Like sneakers and Nike. Apparel and all that type stuff in its win it. It's it's GonNa be I think a lot. Of course you go to any conference especially one branded as something like this. This is the next big thing in in the blockchain's best as NAFTA's and how we use these things to a show allegiance or participation or so on and so forth and so we'll see we'll see if that's the case I'm going to follow it for a few reasons like that's not the games that are coming out or look pretty sick. At least based on the marketing material show at conferences interested in that voice played games and wanted to have real world value and the amount of effort and time that I put into these games played a lot of things you have to grind like. I just spent a good portion of my life playing this game to get to this point Robert. Good at and like I'm better than everyone else and I have nothing physical to show for it. I'm a loser I'm gonNA walk away now being able to extract that value and do something with it. I think is useful for a lot of people especially when you see like how big sports is getting. You don't go too far and Brag about how sick you are a call duty. Maybe didn't college has that back. We'll see damn it. Now I know will go wrong. Nobody gives us shit about my Katie ratio. I got that Shit Probably Secure K. D. Yeah wait one thing we haven't done and I'm pretty sure at least twenty times. Explain this throughout the duration of the network but in inept tea is a non fungible token. And what that means is. It's pretty simple Dollars fungible because if I have five one dollar bills in my hand they all equal one dollar right cool. Does it matter which doesn't matter which one five dollar bills you have? They're all the same. They all look the exact same operate. The exact same they're interchangeable it was makes them fungible but as non fungible one of my dollars or be worth maybe ten dollars the other dollar bill would be worth like three. Essentially different tokens or different units have different values and but they kind of look the same. It's a unique physical assets of trading cards. Take about maybe admission. Tickets to events Any any type of collectible attracting a physical asset in a digital way so like Some some some digital representation of physical asset tracking that so forth. It's it's unique. That's the main thing about it. It's not you can't trade it for something else. That's exactly like it and I think the coolest idea Was as yet to be executed would be like some sort of unique weapon. In a video game that has a traceable history of awesomeness that you know instead of them spitting out this thing being super awesome valuable. It's been grinded to the point where it has changed hands so many times in Blah Blah Blah that you can see like yes my sort of a thousand truth. I was hoping you'd say that is actually worth a thousand truths but yeah so. I think it's exciting. You had a podcasting enough. The wanted to talk about. So let's ask. Her now is going to go to that. Go for swing into one of the shows that I wanted to see because it obviously intersex all the things that I do was done by the guys from the bad crypto. Podcast Jolan Travis. Now I'm not necessarily a fan of their characters on that show but they're both incredibly smart individuals in terms of the business of podcasting. They understand marketing. The understand podcasting. They don't understand how to make a good show and get some people and and and do all and do all the stuff. Involved with making a podcast. They're professionals at that. In my opinion probably the biggest professionals in the CRYPTO currency podcasting space. Okay I agree I I don't listen. Oh show and so. They had a show called. Nfc's podcasting like and part of the reason. Why I do alive always done this. Podcast network is to make a community and interact with the community who are like minded and care about the things that I care about right and then have like a community of people who get to come together and talk about the things that we all collectively care about feel that have good discourse and so on and so forth and then provide content for them. Yeah I have access to these people have to ask them questions that I I think that I care about and then I just share that with them because if they're listening to me they've also probably care about those things too and if they don't they have a direct line to talk to me about it. Bet. That community building is really cool but tracking those problems in the podcast industry that we've become aware of and that is true listeners. How do they probably show that They are your listeners. Care about your content. And and then how do you reward those people that have been with you for a long period of time like there's things that have come up in terms of like Patriot and stuff like that. But you know tiered access for various types of levels of patriotic things and so forth and it didn't quite jive with how I wanted to build stuff in terms of interacting with my community. I want to be able to have episodes that are built and created from feedback and work of the community members and then reward them commensurate with the amount of work they put into it. Like that idea is really cool to me. And so what the bad. The bad crypto. Podcast guys discuss this concept using. Nfc's do this what they're doing when they built what they've done or what they're doing now is basically at some point in any other episodes they they give a specific url. That's unique for seventy two hours after the publishing of that show where the listeners when they listen go there and scan. Qr Code and get an in a non fungible token of that specific episode right Which is a which they call the proof of listening token because in order to get this thing. You have to listen to the episode. There's no other way to get. It is a similar to like. I'd say like how that's Bitcoin used to do. Like the key words in individual episodes so they get to get the coin. But like the C twenty the fungible version of this ended up being gamed and scammed and stuff like that. Tillack get people a Lotta prophets for Shit. That didn't actually participate in. This is simple. There's not necessarily value. It's something you can exchange with this. It's just a way to show that you listen to an episode and you get a digital token associated with that that that real time of it and then you can build stuff from this essay for instance like your listener. And you've listened to you've shown you give twenty. Nfc's we can't. We have a way to be able to understand who our listeners are. How many podcasts? They have Have you podcast and listen to prove ably and number word them for stuff like that or like say all of the people who got the NFC of a specific episode with specific guest that that guests can say had like to reach out to those people and give them give them some tokens just for listening? I want to thank them. We can say okay here you go. You can do that. We can have venture tiered access to channels of communication where like the The real low. Geez you've listened to over one hundred episodes probably you. You get you get access this channel Bill and you can. You can start to talk right. There's so many things you can do with. Having people say they've listened to an episode and then they what they might want to do this stuff too like. Hey here's the token I can prove it. There's a lot of stuff that you can do. A lot of stuff you can do with that and it also gives us a really good idea of understanding how far into a podcast or people. Listening are listening to the whole thing. They turning off at thirty minutes we can. We can play with that and then we can make content. That makes sure that like we're keeping the audience engaged. There's a lot of stuff cool stuff you can do with this. And so We're GONNA start trying to work on this and make sure that we can do that. So those who are listening to this kids start to say. Hey guys I'm I'm a crypto. Og I'm a I'm a I'm a Bitcoin podcast. Oh Gee and here's how I prove it and we can start rewarding you for the time that you're spending with us in various ways because that's that's really. WanNa do it. You want to use the technology that we're proselytizing to everyone for so many years to do that instead of saying. Hey guys. Beloved Crypto Bud. We're not using it. You know like but imagine how the six days into the physical business world too but sorry. I don't want to go on. I just know that's my. That's my pitch. What I got excited about when I saw this and I talked with these guys. And there's PR- that we're going to have conversations moving forward on like had to make this easy for people to do and use it. You know what we should do. Quite honestly we do like a three part series with them where we're explaining our process of implementing it and then just air that you know what I mean something like that death will play with that anyways and I wanted to talk about. Yeah last thing I want to talk about was like Someone expressed interest. And I've I've I've noticed. There's a little bit of a misunderstanding in the status sticker market. Like what we went to this conference for Because we do it. And someone of a different way than most people think about non Tokens so the stickers sticker market is a market of stickers obviously and what stickers are are ways till like download different packs of cartoon like things with different amount like emojis the post inside chat right a thumbs up guy or like you know. Think about the Mogi that everyone uses inside snapchat. That type of stuff. These are relatively. These are stickers gifts. How you respond to things on and so forth which makes the experience of Chat Chat Applications Way. More fun and expressive. And also there's branding and all that stuff too but we'll be done is created what's called the sticker market which is a way for anyone to create a sticker pack themselves and submit it to an open network and make money off it potentially make money off it because they sell it for a price. So you make you make stickers you put it on a market with a price you set your address. You set up percentage of a donation. If you'd like to do that so like any time. Someone BUYS STICKER PACK. A percentage of that can go to something else or or the or the sticker market itself so that we can keep funding it building it and then it's available the application and so that means hugh in the APP if you would like to download a pack open it up. You can see what stickers are available by the way you want and that money goes directly to the Creator who submitted it. No middleman involved all smart contracts Some of those can be scarcity. Like artists can make incredibly scarce sticker. Paxi like you can probably show that. Like Hey I bought this one nine out. I'm one of so many people that have this particular sticker pack and then you could potentially sell that. The ownership of a pack isn't enough t that's tied to your account right and so you can trade that if you don't want it anymore. Murphy thinks it's more valuable than something like that. And that's all on any market you want. You don't have to go through anything that's just that's just an asset in your wallet in your in your theory of Wallet Could Status and also there's another NFC registry associated with this and that is the ownership of the creator of the pack. So the people who submit it the people who are receiving the the funds of others buying there is also an enough to and so say a creator has very successful pack. They can then monetize the proceeds of that thing and sell it to someone else to so. There's two markets here. One is the stickers themselves depending on their scarcity in other one is the ownership of the sticker. Pack like. There's it's kind of a fun. Way To make an open market of people to create content make easily discoverable by others and potentially make money just by like adding fun features into a chat application that we watched. And it's IT'S. It's pretty NEAT PRETTY INTERESTING. Is that You guys aren't the first to offer something like this. I think he might be the first to find a way for people to monetize it like Because facebook messenger kind of started they had stickers right and then you could build a sticker back if you were working in their facebook messenger Dev Portal. You could submit a sticker back. In if they approved it became enough sticker back in FACEBOOK MESSENGER. But people did that for free. They were just like One A if I can do this so they offer free but but you guys are saying you can make a sticker pack in actually make money from people potentially people choose not GonNa say you are going because some stick it back suck summit good. Yeah having people understand that. The discovering process of finding curation of finding sticker packs is going to be a good. This blows up. It's GonNa be hard to find sticker packs so there's more problems to solve. Yeah I think it's it's definitely I like open market that no one controls like right now that they'll give you disclaimer here. The these contracts are under a controlled state. The only people that can that can add sticker packs right now are is the status is status. That's because we wanted to test that make sure it works properly so on and so forth before we before we turn the contract to quote Unquote Open. Anyone can do this. And we don't have control over that stuff though. Well we we should cut to. The interview goes like we got along very different conversation than I do. But yeah that's a that's no doubt so. We interviewed a gentleman named He works for persistence. He's the CEO not works for he's the CEO Persistence. And they're aiming to do Is Pretty much like grow? Cosmo's awareness but this for? It's a lot more intricate than that. And we didn't I mean I feel like I'm bastardising. What persists trying to do. I'd say I'd say finding a good use case or implementation of enterprise adoption using cosmos. Okay I can let that go that. They've gotta be there's no way in hell that's not one of the most competitive areas in. Crypto. Right now because if you win the interoperability game you win like there's so many people that are going to have to own your token in order to get access to value and other networks so yeah but anyways that's just me thinking out loud earrings another interview on the Bitcoin podcast. I'm not quite petty. Got To meet your here with me calling from his phone because it doesn't quite have an Internet connection yet and today's interview we're GonNa talk with two Shar Garhwal. Ceo OF PERSISTENCE We're GONNA learn about that what it does Sweitzer. What is trying to do? to share. Why don't you? Why don't you give us that normal introduction as to who you are has gotten a space and we'll start talking about Persistence well plus the phone guys. Thanks for having me on the show Though quick introduction so a Just prior to persistence in my most recent role. I helped to set up Southeast Asia's first properly. Structured regulated Crypto Fund Tiptoe Venture Capital Fund call next ventures which was the crypto on a traditional VC fund. Call Golden Gate. Golden Gate's been investing in Southeast Asian startups for almost a decade and they've done an equity investment into a company called amiga safe. You remember of the obesity token The Fun could not take part in the token drown of the token Salem Because the fun mandate in Lao to invest in Tokens and that's how this kind of dedicated to fund. Kalanick's was born Size involved in doing multiple things at the funding setting up the fine work with lawyers tax advisors auditors fund administrators the local regulator which was monetary authority of Singapore. was involved in fundraising and then doing deals. Both in the primary market so equity and Tokens as well as managing a liquid portfolio of about eight. To twelve tokens. I've seen You know so. Many deals that asks have three three and a half years. Invested in a bunch of stuff made money. Lost Money But you know truly for me. It was more about the ecosystem and lately Especially the heater. Micosystems gaming defy are things that have captured the imagination of investors of entrepreneurs developers of community members. But my thesis has been that you know if we truly have to move to the trillions of dollars than You know big part of that is going to be through the institutional or the enterprise use case and so. That's what. I'm trying to build right now. So persistence is essentially trying to bring enterprise use cases into interoperable networks. Like COSMO's with a high level thesis off in a sold so far today All Enterprise Applications Live on platforms like Hyper Ledger. Cordellcordell and these completely closed permission But our thesis is that over the period of time similar to the transition from the Internet Internet to the Internet and from the transition of having fun premises service to the cloud. There's going to be a movement from kind of drive it platforms to relatively more open relatively more decentralized and relatively more permission less networks. So that's the kind of high level thesis of how Persistence game about okay. I got I could do us a favor. So some some of our audience. They're like beginners and things in maybe they can't differentiate between an individual users use case in an enterprise use case. We'll be an example of an enterprise use case that could be going on like a private blockchain. Like Cora or hyper ledger. And why they're choosing to do there and launching and all the Theorem so some of the use cases So I if Alonso your second question. So why are people choosing to do it on hyper ledger or quarter more quote UNQUOTE PRIVATE IMPLEMENTATIONS? Tedium very straightforward reasons enterprises love privacy. They don't want to expose the transactions to the public. They don't want to expose the application logic the business logic to the public and with most public networks actually exposing all of those things dumps off your first question in terms of what are some of the use cases so the use cases that we have been tackling of being more clear on the exchange of real world and Fiat money so Use cases like trading of physical commodities trading off solar credits trading off. You know social back. Bonds Barnes and generals stocks and essentially. What where the blockchain element comes in is trying to create a layer of transparency for the different bodies. That are involved okay. Are you seeing use cases in the enterprise space about before I worked for the right current company I had? I guess I did. A few stints in Government contracting agencies and consulting agencies and a lot of that was building. Poc's like going through that. That rapid prototyping schedule of. Here's a use case. Pichit brought a pse. Pichit never hear from it again. I think that was the over. The last maybe three years I'd say that's been a lot of it and I never saw any of those things. Really take off despite seeing a lot of interest in the enterprise space and and a lot of that was because it's hard to capture value in a private network because the validations beholden to any real thing. It's very difficult to hold. Its private network so I guess you only have value within that small within the small players who also have a lot of control so a lot of the benefits of using distributed consensus stuff. Don't work out over traditional databases. Are you seeing things outside? Evaluation being wanted and enterprise and and and what so you brought up three extremely extremely good points and you hit the nail on the head on these three points and these are some of the things that I've been talking to a lot of kind of you know I'm an SF right KNOB in new north. American kind of crypto block in Community Fox and ecosystem players and and these are some of the things that I've been trying to explain to a lot of the folks here as well so the first point that you brought up is private network in terms of the validates the North's essentially you know the business case for a private network as a week now as a business gifts opportunities to increase revenue for a company or to decrease expenses that is the only reason why a company would adopt a new technology if it adds some value to them and and like you rightly pointed out the thing with private networks is The company it settled for a couple of companies Control all the valid eaters or all the nodes and so in case something goes wrong they can actually roll back. The blocks rollback the transactions. And so that beats the point of having a blocks in you might as well have a database and that is the problem that at some level. We are trying to solve where we tried to have. Kind of relatively private or consortium chains but these chains are secured by distributed set of alligators and valid eaters. Like the ones we're used to hearing about like Swan Lake figment like steak. Dot Fish be harvest in Asia. So that's the first point. Second Point that you talked about as more on an on a point off you know a lot of enterprises doing. Uc's but not going into full-scale limitation and that's when Asia's unique as well and and in terms of that what our strategy has been on Lake North America. Where a lot of the An and you know for the listeners. I'm based out of a combination of Singapore and India And Joe graphically a dog market is Singapore. Hong Kong The Middle East and South Asia so in terms of moving beyond B. O. C. So first of all there's a stigma attached around UC's And it's done necessarily a bad thing you know if you look at The movement from having on premise to the cloud that transition is still going on. It's been more than a decade since that transition began. But that's on is still going on and in general for enterprises it you know. It's the difference between like the small boat in large ship. Enterprises don't want to rock the boat. Too much of a startup can be. But when an enterprise actually makes decisions you have to go through that bureaucratic process of Speaking everyone within the all the different decision makers within the organization getting them to come to consensus no pun intended and then actually finally going ahead but once an enterprise go ahead you basically have have declined for a very long time but essentially You know today's so many companies have done. Poc's and wanted wanted to learn about this technology but they haven't seen a strong enough business gifts like we talked about Going to full scale implementation. And you know I mean not to plug what we're trying to do but essentially We believe that the movement from kind of private to kind of hybrid public private networks helps a lot in terms of billing that business gifts in terms of reducing expenses or increasing revenues industrial full scale implementation rather than going off to the largest corporations in the word and you know in North America. Most of the business is run by large corporations which is very different to how business is done in Asia where a lot of the business is controlled by Family offices and family owned conglomerates and with the big difference that is happening. Is that a lot of these? Families are now kind of transferring. The businesses through the next generation and that is an intergenerational transfer of wealth and business happening A lot of the kids of these family owned conglomerates have actually gone business schools in North America. And so the very cognizant of what's happening with Debt companies. This scared of what start ups are going to do to their traditional businesses so they wanna future-proof their business. Those are the folks that we try to work with In terms of helping dad businesses adopted technologies. So how do you create Blockchain blockchain enable applications or hardier enable. How do you plug in blockchain into their existing applications and then also not just blockchain but also connecting them to folks Who are experts in who Doreen explicit other industries whether that is the usage of IOT devices for certain you know traditional businesses the use of artificial intelligence to some extent so hard. You Combine Multiple Technologies to help Some of these family offices in family owned conglomerates to kind of future proof business. What's what's like what's the general sentiment towards crypto currency by a lot of blockchain? Talk but I'm solidly in the blockchain talkers for the birds. This is about cryptocurrency. And I will be there for a long time until proven different. So what? What exactly is the sentiment about cryptocurrency in India Singapore. I mean I think there's this curiosity people want exposure Somehow it's just that the problem is a lot of them have gotten burned in in different ways or lost keys and so they haven't gone through that on ramp. Singapore is different. I mean Singapore's very unique in all of Asia and dumps of being one of the most you know whether it's from a regulatory perspective where you're literally talking to fly regulators on what And then you know kind of giving you at some level blessings to Operate in somewhat of a safe environment. So you know And you know. Recently I saw a mysterious Proposed a state Pablo as far as to companies are concerned in the US. I think something like that. You do not formally Something like that as existence for a long time. And that's what I've seen you know so many kind of Entrepreneurs from even automatic You know us. Canada and Bossa West Moved to Singapore as well just because it's so friendly from a regulatory perspective and then you have even though getting a bank account and things like that for the CRYPTO company can be a little bit complex but in terms of ease of doing business and in dumps of having access to like Fiat on drums. Fiat off-ramps crypto having different service providers lawyers who understand crypto having auditors. Who can understand trip to having fun? Administrators DAX ADVISORS. These different service providers. That have kind of come into play. Finance for example has been a super active in the simple ecosystem. They've Singapore's come up with a new payment services act which will apply to anyone that handles Fiat. Money Crypto non crypto and thing by nance applied for that license very recently and so I think in dubs of the CRYPTO activity and cinnabar. It is booming What is India's grandson? I think the Indian government's stance as being very similar to that of China where they have this. You know Crypto is bad but blockchain is good. And so we're GONNA drive adoption of blockchain but I think over the period of time The governments and enterprises realizing that although you may want to abstract away all the complexities at the application level because a lot of enterprises not ready to custody crypto assest an odd ready to implement risk management procedures in through the not. They want to stay within the swift ecosystem and interface with the bank so but these folks have also started realizing that in the background to secure the network. You need miners and you need a distributed set of valid eaters. Now that the stupidest allardice could be a distributed to a varying degree right so Hypothetically you have very sensitive data for the district of alligators would be distributed within the country because then it becomes a matter of national security. And you don't want your data leaving the country even if you have things like US knowledge proofs and you can probably show that you're not exposing the data to the validates. The governments have kind of inherent mistrust of not fully knowing that he does lining up. So they've just choose to keep the data but it would still be distributed across the country and then you have kind of private businesses that are immense and are willing to be open to having a globally distributed set of alligators And these are third party ballads. Not Donald Valerie. Those that have some Sort of incentivisation disincentivize Asian. Some kind of Game Theory. Some kind of triple economics at play so big part of the token so essentially. What's happening is and again. I'd love to Hook your kind of what your viewpoints but instead of like crypto becoming a medium of exchange. I think what's happening is is becoming a medium to Secure latching networks while you actually do business. Instable coins or You do business in kind of Traditional Fiat. While using kind of boxing technology in the background while abstracting away all the complexities of being able of having to hold the token of having to deal with gas of Moving out of the swifty was but I. I'd love to hear what you guys thinking. What what your kind of pulse of. How the industry's evolved as well think about it. Take it out what you just said. In terms of like through the Lens of Cosmos it makes a lot of sense like I feel as though a lot of the crypto currency aspect of Cosmos. At least how it stands now with the way validation has done is a way to put valid eaters at stake and a lot of an auto ways. And then once you have the people who validating and you have money behind what they're doing and the ability to take away and a business case for them to operate a properly then you can kind of conduct business based on the communication layer. They provide which I feel as feel as though what you've just said. Am I right? One hundred percent and see today we think of it as only cosmo's because only causes one of the strongest and one of the only live kind of delegated proof of stake networks. But if you look at all the kind of networks and including east two point all once that transition happens we're going to be talking about it in a similar manner. This is that God's you only live platform so far but it's something about eastern earlier. Also I I could use a little more Guest clarity on and that is what is this partially partially private blockchain implementation network like how does that. How does that work in your eyes? So and you know I mean. That's one of the reasons why Cosmos is so interesting for us as well so for folks who are not familiar with Cosmos first of all very high level taking a step back Today you have the Bitcoin blockchain few multiple other protocols and these protocols don't speak to each other so if you have an application built on if you do and you have another application built on the platform these who applications cannot do business with each other so caused laws Anonyna- polka-dot which should live you know in the next few months earlier of interoperability. That sit on top of all these protocols providing essentially that layer of inter operability. They call themselves to kind of Quote Unquote Internet of Internet of blockchain's now the week osmose has been structured. Is that cosmos. Has this kind of hubbing. Spoke model was believes in what is called self sovereign chains which is like you have blockchain's which are very very application specific. So if he didn't takes the exact opposite approach where no matter. Whether you're crypto kitties or whether you're an enterprise application you're running on the same chain Cosmos's viewpoint on that spectrum is completely separate where they believe that every application would need. It's and again not every not VICI needs to have its own token but every application need needs its own kind of needs to be tweaked for that particular use case and to dig deeper. What happens is cost? Has this kind of hub-and-spoke model you have. These major chains withdraw hubs. And so the cost of being the first major hub Irish hub being the major China. Persistence being the enterprise hub. And then you have these spokes. The spokes are called zones in COSMO's language and each zone can have small applications running on it and so in our case. So the persistence hub. Today has a commodity treating zone. Persistence hub has a social impact bond slash. Es G zone persistent peer-to-peer Solo training Zone so essentially you. What's Saudi I? Forget the initial question. You got a public private Nature could absolutely so so what happens in the example of persistence. What we're doing is so a lot of these zones you know whether it's commodity trading whether it's you know trading of solar credits those clients that we're working with these zones are actually at some level Permission or private. But they're secured bio public evaluators. These private zones don't actually have a tradable token so how do you implement incentivisation for the valid eaters in the absence of token? How do you implement governance for this zone? In the absence of a tradable token what happens is the actual governance of the actual incentivisation slashing happens At the hub. Level the hub itself. Is You know public and decentralized and permission list so essentially we have this mechanism where you have private zones with no token where you have distributed data violators but these violators they governance. And then centralization a happens at the hub level and so essentially what this allows us to do is provide the different enterprises with the privacy of a private zone while having this beauty consensus in the background and so this kind of this hybrid kind of public private structure which we believe is the way to create a more palatable aboard digestible way for enterprises to start using public networks. Decentralized networks and permission technology. Where's the UH? Where's the incentive? Spoke though because of the hub is you know is word of money that that's how. I WANNA be a hub. Could so the thing is the mechanism that we've created as we have about? Twenty thousand eight is at the hub level And we have a subset of these. Twenty evaluators will be validating for different zones. Why would you validate for the zone? Because of the economic activity in the zone today the foot zone the commodity trading zone has already processed thirty million dollars. Worth of trades as that zone gets bootstrapped. It becomes very very economically lucrative for the validates to start validating for individuals zones. But essentially you know and this is one of the points that I try to keep making outside of Bitcoin blockchain. They're not too many networks today. Which have enough financial economic activity forwarded to warrant validates minors to mine outside of inflation or outside of Network Subsidy? But how do you get to at once? Networks up city goes down and now. We're seeing it with bitcoin where the your prices thankfully sustained and so. It's still profitable for minors to mind of other networks. What if you know over a long period of time your inflation your network subsidies going away? How do you incent device minors of alligators? That gives you need to have financial activity in that particular chain in that particular zone for the to make economic sense validated to keep mining off validating. And so that's what we're trying to do if you bring in thirty million dollars worth of commodity traders and you know this cross sector do somewhere between three hundred five hundred million dollars. Commodity Trades this year You will be literally fighting to have that kind of spot to be able to validate or mine. Also what we've done this and this is where an I don't want to get too technical but where Cosmos's into blockchain communication protocol comes in What happens is we've designed incentive mechanisms in such a way that a Lotta the incentives for validating different zones actually happens at the hub level. So even though you'll validating the zone you're spending diamond and G money resources manpower to validate particular zone. But the incentivisation you would get the rewards at the hub level. So you wouldn't get it was if you didn't validate for that particular suld Question I can try and get this cool. I'd like this concept especially having been a part of a lot of the earlier attempts to think about enterprise level applications using things like private Assyrian blockchain's because that was always the rudimentary level of how are we going to create distribution like if you to use the same analogy of Internet's for enterprise slowly but surely moving into the internet once. They felt comfortable dipping. Their toes in doing net via cerium hasn't worked out As well as they'd like it to plasma was supposed to be the mainstay of how these enterprise could do things certain level of scale and then a trust Isley dip their toes into a Maine network to communicate with each other and we haven't quite seen that yet. What you just described is Cosmos version of the same thing you have these hubs which were a lot of guests cryptocurrency type incentivisation stuff is happening where the validation developers are incentivized by the token across that helped network which provides security to zones to do enterprise type applications without having to worry about any of that other stuff you can do commodities trading The credit swapping things like that and then they can have some type of either new or better level application that they're that they're interested in with a lot more trust looseness they would previously have and I think it's. It's it's an interesting way to solve this problem. That theme and other applications have yet to find a way to do. Yeah I mean I think in a couple of issues with the theme is supposed to oversee. You know like you mentioned. Capability is one of the issues but by the way your understanding of what I described is very very spot on in terms of what the exact mechanism is encore. Look and I mean Yeah. I think as far as the theory was concerned. So essentially what is consensus tried to do is and they did a phenomenal job. In terms of just driving that negative to enterprises right makes a huge difference when and they do not very kind of non shitty kind of way where it was very Enterprise-friendly was positioned in a way that enterprises could digest it Great they didn't amazing job and dumbs off doing that media Bush. You're doing the PR the marketing thing. Where they fell short little bit was and I'm not even talking about the kind of skill. Ability limitations of anything is more from an implementation perspective. I think consensus itself Wasn't able to organize itself in a way where they could become super super effective. And I think at some level that is one of the things that You know what we're trying to back down of giving enterprises something that the are used to You know in terms of how management consulting firms are how they deal with kind of different kinds of service providers having essays in place and things like that again again again at some level this this is some people off because we're kind of moving away from the unit. Pure decentralization. Permission lasts kind of additive. Ethos and a but at some level this is also how I believe you know having looked at and I I've been in that campaign of nine percent of my Bus No network is in Crypto huge believer. But but how do you make it? You know enterprise-friendly Because the the amount of new money coming into the industry will be so massive from my perspective once these enterprises start getting comfortable that it's a from the risk reward perspectives. Johnny was sticking so correct. Me If I'm wrong here To sharp but it sounds like the goal line two wash. Ud Watch football like American football. Phelan s another one of my camp all right soccer. You Walk Yes. Let's hear this analogy all right. So the goal here like literally emptying into the goal is to get businesses to instead of pay enormous contracts out for people to secure their very sensitive information there than paying validated to assure that they're sensitive information is distributed and a private insecure manner. And so we've got to show them that it's more cost effective to pave alligators. Then pay someone like I. DuNno oracle or like a thug in. I don't know people that do that. So that's good absolutely absolutely one hundred percent that's the that's the by belief. Is that on a long enough time. Scale who'd evaluators will be. They'll be enterprises themselves. And whether that's the current Valerie or it is You know entities like so are one of my big believes that validates become like overdose right because you said securing of networks at the end of the day today. Who secures business? It's the auditors the auditors that prevent businesses from taking part in scams and fraudulent activities. But essentially what we're doing is auditors have no economic skin in the game. The only have reputational skin in the game if they become a if they issued reports positive reports for a company that is acting fraudulently than they have potential. You know risk of losing their reputation and hand potential of business. That's the only skin in the game that they have in the case of validating. What's happening is not only. Do they have reputational skin? In the game to have economic skin in the game. Crew delegations and crypto economic incentives and so my belief is that on a long enough time scale entities like PWG KPMG all audit firms the consulting firms. They've been BCC McKinsey. They themselves will become violators. They will find people who have the expertise to set up the correct infrastructure and then maintain that infrastructure because they will be so much economic activity that these guys will be securing. An order today happens at the end of The York. Why should it? Why should you wait for a your phone scam a fraudulent activity to be exposed? What if you could expose it in real time? And that's what the grand vision is. I mean but again you have to baby steps to get the grand vision but the Grand Vision is that these folks themselves start hosting violators in the future again. I mean it's it's totally debatable. Whether this is a positive outcome or a negative outcome but this is what I believe will happen. I think that's I think that's a great way to kind of wrap up. Wrap up this interview. It's a message that I think people understand. It's it's a reasonable way to think about the the baby steps. We need to take to get to whatever that eventual goal is. Have people find out more about persistence. What you guys are doing get in touch contribute CETERA got more. You got more to Shahr in ten words or less. Can you describe blocking? Oh man this is such a difficult one thing. Blockchain is essentially disagree database with certain crypto economic incentive STEIG's to ensure there's no malicious activity words like seventeen close. It was close but e for a for effort. Eat it's By my one of my Gym Instructors had really bad accent and Houston aid for Africa. Actually nailed yeah. Emplo persists Usman tell people how to find it How to interact with you show so we haven't been. I think. Twitter is the best way to follow what we've been up to Twitter telegram. I think telegram is so far only been a one way communication. We haven't engaged the community so far. We've been engaging with folks you know within within the ecosystem on COSMO's telegram and dead discard but as far as persistency developments. Go I think the best way is twitter? Best way is join our telegram announcement channels so far in follower medium blog posts. We write a lot in terms of what we believe. The future is and how it's going to evolve and follow me personally as well on twitter. I'm I'm probably you know. I'm super super active on twitter. So I if the T. Diva Thailand U. S. H. A. R. Seven were. That's all I got core if you don't have not coming on shore thank you so much guys hosting Ooh food.

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TTM 71: Lowkey Thankful

The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast

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TTM 71: Lowkey Thankful

"Better than this too much. Hi Welcome to another episode of this too much on the blackout. Premium podcast network. I'm your host. Rod joined his always my co host award winning singer and best female actor in a motion picture. Nineteen seventy-two Best Coast reporting actress twenty-six team for fences along with Viola Davis Golden Globe winner and future. Vp candidate for twenty twenty. Come on Joe. Biden is not much time left and author of telling the truth but I'm lying available for order on Amazon Barnes and noble books million an NBA bow plus a New York Times bestseller. Friend Bossy Bossy. because I stayed up to watch. gas fires and gloat sing our praises and You know just sitting the show said season one we did say and of course we did say I. I stayed up late to on because I accidently took late night. That you know that thing where it's just like a that was that was nice smart and then I was up till like three or four but it was okay because it was just more on the rewatch insecure and just gloat in our righteousness and our rightness I mean I guess we can come clean finally after all this time. Guys We that's how we know what's GonNa Happen on the show. We we talk about it and then she puts it into the show. So that's why you guys always wrong. She just only listen to us and We will accept We will expect apologies today but we might not accept them. So we'll see that's really up to you breakdowns. Okay so this is how we break it down. We talked about the story of US. Which is recap the show kind of longest part? I do a Lotta talking. You know as Bossy to do some analysis and then after that we talk about this could be us as saying about the character we may have identified with the most week. It's not US issue. This ain't this ain't me the segment For the person. We just did not like this week. this too much moment. There's a moment where you got a little emotional talk about that. This is y'all is when we reach a feedback. You got plenty of today. You guys had a lot to say this week. Mostly Evan ready yet but I assume most of it was just apologies and telling us like. Oh my God you guys so smart. How did we not see this coming? I'll never be in a chat room acting crazy again. That's what I like to read. But we'll see what about us is what happens next week. Roswell you're GONNA say so. Tap right awesome. None of those people came back man. They probably don't fuck with us. These Migas Anyway today's episode is called Loki. Thankful is the third episode of season. Four I did not realize this until I think sent me a youtube thing. W- eastern some of the cast. I print is fanny or whatever This season is ten episodes. Shoutout to our girl she finally made it to the Rock ballers territory okay. I knew it was going to get you to episode. One time I knew was man. Oh my God so happy for her. My wow deserve right. We deserve Now she just needs the The baller seem song. Because I missed it. Yeah now he just need that drake to come in. The thing is like that budget for ballers was so ridiculous and his own own stupid shit you know like let's have the Rock and rob corddry take a helicopter over to the arena to meet with fake. Nfl owner like like they were spending money like that and then insecure. I'll just like well. I wanted to see some money. You won't see yeah come on. Oh I thought I mean you're GONNA ask me. How would I thought I'll tell you? But the music just episode. Usually I feel like Oh. This is like this. It's good music but not for me like a sore clearly. This is some artists that the twenty year old. They're listening to like this. I was like googling people I was like the song. Do Fabric and you know as as a update for everybody if I don't know if you guys do this but if you have title or spotify. Spotify has an insecure. Hbo LIST THAT UPDATES every episode. So like they they are on it. You know what I mean so you like like I saw like an artist Mei Xiang check that out and then title has one updates. Every episode is called sound tracking insecure. So that's another dopamine so guys 'cause I this this show always me onto some dope ass music and the music selection. This week was so good. It was like better cost. Our music actually has something to do with the plot this week which is amazing All right so let's start where we always start bossy. What did you think about this episode? Loki thankful my favorite episode episode. My favorite episode of the season definitely probably one of my favorite episodes of the entire series. Not just because we were perfect and right because I thought it was really well written. I thought that all of the things again that people complain about on the show. I saw growth. I saw movement. I saw like we got the c. e. Some GODDAMN MOM MAC like I felt like we got so much in this episode. We've got so much in this episode that when it ended feel abrupt like it usually does use them like wait. F It but I felt like okay. It's over now. We're moving onto the next one. Like I thought it was a really well. Done Really well done episode and this is only like thirty minute episode. To which is you know because sometimes they can go like thirty nine minutes or whatever thirty five this thirty minute episode. And they got so much done. There's so many scenes so many narrative arcs that are coming to. He started to explain themselves. some in character confrontations conversations that. I wanted to see happened this week. So this is one of my favorite and it was just well done. Like especially on a rewatch. The edits and cuts between scenes. And the way the scenes tie into the theme of the last thing. You just watch. It's this is fucking fantastic. So yeah I loved it all right. Let's get into the story of us. Break it down. Low Key thankful Lawrence is in his bathroom mirror working on his page for a promotion that he's planning on getting and I know it was important because it was using those big words and stuff. You know I've worked on global synergy and the shifted the paradigm. And now I come up a condolence then wakes blaring the default iphone alarm that Karen uses the blaring and Like every morning. It's like it's the ship under attack. What the fuck And then he invites her to do something on Thanksgiving. 'cause she's new in town and she probably doesn't have a lot of family and stuff. I think is what he said. His reasoning was Was I actually? I'm hosting like a little friendsgiving. And he was like Oh cool. You want me to come by 'cause I always forget Warrenton really have a lot of people in town either? You know what I mean. And this is also that age. Where like you're candid. You know when you're at its way from your family family if you can't travel back then it's Kinda like you do a friendsgiving type of thing for everybody that has like you know the kind of like either find somebody would have family in town and you go to that or you like you know. Hang out with your friends or whatever so he also is Kinda looking for somewhere to hang out and she's like I'm doing friendsgiving and he's like Oh you want me to calm. She likes sure. I didn't think you want to. I didn't know you want to. And he was like. Yeah of course girl And this is this. We'll come back to this moment but that was so like I when I watched. It didn't see anything really awkward around about that that conversation it felt kind of natural like. Oh isn't that Nice. They're GONNA do Thanksgiving. You know then laws against it but the thing is with that. Who is that Later I saw where it was awkward but at that moment I kind of I would like it just seemed like a normal interaction especially people are spending the night and sending arms and you know whatever. I thought that I thought it was. I see where more and would have been like. Oh maybe she wants to invite me but she's doing the same with that. Not Not just entire train of thought but like the hang where everyone thinks that molly goes to ask So he was like. Oh maybe she's GonNa think it's too fast. Let me let her know that I want to go. And he read it all wrong And I think it's also the thing to he did that with what Tasha to go. Want like 'cause remember. He was promising to go to sheet that he really didn't want to go to an really wasn't going to with our like that but I think we talked about it. I think Lawrence likes to be. He wants to be the representation of the good man. The good guy the good boyfriend or whatever and sometimes I think he stretches the south too far or he just kind of extends himself because he thinks that's what the Nice thing to do is because it would have been kind of awkward though. Good luck with that or whatever in his head. I can see how it here's minus like that's awkward to tell her you know she's GonNa do this thing and I'm just like oh well you know like so. I could see you didn't think he actually wanted to go like no nothing that he actually wanted to try in ways that he didn't want to talk show. That's not what I mean. What I mean like. He thought that was the right thing to do like the way she put it of. I didn't think you would want to go. And he doubles down. 'cause I you know I don't think it was like I. It's not like we're Tasha where he really did. Not Want to hang out but I but I don't know it's Kinda like Tasha 'cause I don't think he didn't want to hang out with her either. I jump in over his head because he just feels like. That's what a person does a good man would be like. Yeah girl you know. I think he's really into trying to be a good man. You know Yeah I mean. He did say in the season. The season finale last year. That COMES WITH DAD. He wants he wants that right and again. It's like molly lower like molly in that way. He wants his parents have and he's doing what he thinks is going to get there But I don't think he's doing like people right and even that conversation going to go no but I'm just saying like I was surprised at the conversation he had bring giving China like something Out here fucking around and I think also if your that. That's the thing that we don't normally see with. Male characters is trying to be a good person as the thing that may enter character flaw normally as the obvious the he's cheating or he's trying to be shady all the time or something like that but lawrence does seem to be in pursuit of like a serious something serious even though or at least now. He's ready for that because maybe we're TASHA. He wasn't ready for that and you know. Tasha was grown and he was he really was still growing and he just broken up with last night like in our world. It's been what four years in their world. It's been like two May. Yeah may not even really because our say. You had like how long that break. We started with the break-up of Lawrence and Isa Dallas a few months maybe Maybe a month and then says they're in every season subsequently we've only really fast forward about Not they said a month and a half since he's an broke up something like that in this episode. So we haven't gone that far And then the the we get up to current time we will have gone about like four months past that so like sick like so. Far this show is like it's taking place over. Totem about six months even notice taking four years. Yeah wow right at least in year By you are because because What's her name is is is nine months pregnant. Tiffany yeah. I'll didn't meet her pregnant. That is true that is true so we had a job at some point But it really wasn't like I know they say oh will not make sense because an episode. They said it was like a month and a half or two months after the breaker. Because it's like God only be broke up for like a month and a half I think is what Amal set her in this episode. Yeah in this episode. Yeah no a year and a half always a year and a half. I think you said a year and a half. I got a year and a half from somewhere. Okay maybe I heard wrong but I but I but I know just I know. We didn't meet tiffany pregnant. I know next episode. She has the baby. So it's gotta be nine months right okay. I haven't even gotten to. Yeah I don't know okay so that probably makes more sense because I probably just heard around my badge out. So they so yeah. It's been four years of seasons but like Two years of show you know But it but and then like I said the first season was. They didn't really break up to the end of that so it's really only been two seasons of them being broken up. You know what I mean. 'cause the last episode is moving out so anyway Lars gets to work out that his meeting has been cancelled and had to be rescheduled. Because something's happened with with his business. They will get a great scene with him in the car with Chad he finds companies having layoffs. But he's saved because he's new hiring he's black and he'll be fine but he won't be. He's not worried that you won't be getting a promotion and you're sick of feeling like you saying they're still in life and you know it is not the relationship and his work. It was not work. Relationship was not that as something else which also let us in his hair for a second because he feels like him and controllers relationship is going great. Because that's what I took from that right. 'cause he's like all now works for an like. Ooh He really the here. You can donate like together together. Yeah we get we just embar. Oh go ahead. Sorry chats amazing like yes. Chad is leaving some Bar Chad. Bradley Cooper Vars He was like you know I wanNA fall out like drag hoover actor silver linings playbook. Yeah the movies out of ordering a that was good. The far I will also cool too because chat room out of the so many Jews were like he snuck in that he was struggling so smooth like you almost don't pick it up and Lawrence actually asked to stop for a second. Wait are you. Gooden live because he's he's like you know the markets stance deal you know. I heard a knocking ice house months and he was like damn. You aren't means like Meh. Quakes not is he was like a wide. Lonzo's why'd you buy a brand new range? Dan He who's like to keep up appearances like appearance for it's like for for parents mostly for live in other bitches just counts pro. No Bradley Cooper get that boy some work and he was like Bradley doing pretty good. Oh Man I also good man that whole whole scene that whole I know what part of that was. Written what part was info improvise From Silver Lining. The whole thing you almost like in one breath yeah I every time he kills it and it's so funny. 'cause like Chad is who people pretend Lawrence's you know what I mean like I ever dear achievable feasible charisma but people watch the show like Lawrence's that Oh all right so then is like Leah is like mirrors from Frazier. We'd never seen her way not to not to show and I just realized this episode that they did that. Yeah and this is white. I'll be honest. I think she's white owned. Maybe that'll be the that's been a white woman out all the time. They'll be pretty funny but they always find it like this knocked the phone out as Hannah. Instagram live like yeah. She is basically The neighbor from tool time I mean from whatever name that show Home Improvement Yeah. We'll never see your face. Wilson was that as many. Well say no no yeah cowed it. Oh so then Lars walks into a local restaurant. He Sees Isa Watching Finding Jay. Quan laptop just hanging out and he he and they have like a real cool interaction. He's just like hey what's going on like Watch Jay because apparently they both are binging all the The Lost Black people reality. Tv shows documentaries and then they share some jokes about spoiler and black movies and it was really find Q. Reminded me of while they're going to be together at the end of the series Because they were so good where it was like incoming America. They come back to America. You know and set it off. Yeah I love that that chemistry when I went ahead manic mysteries. You're so good to me. I don't care I don't care I don't care. Yeah and what's interesting is that I found this cute where I found so Kevin Goodwill hunting is annoying Interesting I wonder if it means. You're the real racist Think about it but canola comes over because Lawrence is actually coming here to meet Condello F for a second. I was kinda thrown out because I was like wait. I have him on a lunch every day. Like what the fuck is this? And then condoling comes over online. Oh this makes sense but also this is more awkward and ink Jay Dardenne. She's like now. Now we make jokes about movies as well. It's good to have that or whatever. So he's still a little like Chink in her armor for the first time and Isa's like oh I'm sorry I status by from you but the music style. Good easy to now an artist. I'm actually about to leave. I was getting my food to go and They had a funny joke with the person to do like. I just wanted to get a drink game and I'm just GONNA head out near like food for either. He was like she was. I just got some food to go. Who are here for here. It is he took the tray with the C. level on their over her shoulder longingly at Lawrence. As Kirk and Dollah So we got that moment. Y'All what'd you think about this? I thought that ISA played really well. Like I thought it was eastern What's that what's what's Lawrence his real name? Martin Lawrence J. O. J. Alison Martin Lawrence. I thought they they definitely showed how they play off of each other really well and it made me think okay. We met them at a really bad place but I see. I'm starting to see why they would cause a lot of the conversation on twitter. Like why would they? Why would they even be together in the first place see it? I see what they saw each other. I see the chemistry. I see that they'd have you know good jokes and good times together and I really like seeing that. I didn't realize Japan. How AWKWARD CAN GO IS. And how kind of slow. That's slow in like intellectual capacity. But like she doesn't get jokes more. She doesn't like there's no sense of humor beyond the awkwardness Yeah and I think that's the choice that they made for a couple of reasons. I think one they won't Pin Dollah to be like The serious kinda like choice. Not the dough kind of thing I think because she went through a divorce The same way Tasha Kinda was where like this like? Oh at the end of the day. I'm I'm more groaning. You 'cause I I've just had a different life experience and our characters e- Somalian And Lawrence are supposed to be kind of developing into the adult. You know what I mean But also just the humor to me is like the most intimate thing you can have with a person other than like sex right As though I think is purposeful. Who gets to be like funny on the show with each other and when people aren't able to be funny with each other that's like another language of Oh. This relationship is having some issues. You know what I mean. Yeah Yeah So yeah they But Yeah I love that scene because you pick up on like I say you kind of start seeing a cracks like okay. He's definitely not as cool with this shitty. She thought I always feel like the. There is no You're not we're asking until you see them with someone else and you understand that that's not you ever did. You know what I mean and yeah I think Is Easy in theory to say one thing but one of the reasons? I most people are a lot of people running around crazy on the Internet. Sound like stockers when they talk about their exit shit is because there is emotional. Shit that happens when you actually see them moving on with their lives. That's why everyone so I'm Patty and I. I saw my expert on way. I saw my ex He was with another bitchy she. She went bad as me. You know like there's a reason that you have to feel that way because you have those insecurities within you that I was like destroy. Destroy Destroy if I can't be with them. That's when you know it's over right and or or at least you know how you feel about it you know and I think he's looking back over. Our shoulder made it real man. 'cause until this has been a theory like in Dollas like I'm not GonNa Lawrence around when we're working together even when you talk about him it's not like he's there and the stuff you're talking about is like you know whether he likes may own. Freising Shit is different than saying this. This tall as good looking negative would would a haircut nodded shit. Herb also not. You is different. I don't even think she ever saw him out with Tasha like that. You know what I mean like now. Yeah this is the Shit is real now. That's when you know how you really feel so Let's see what else happening? Kelly is on instagram hosting the Thanksgiving. Rt Get together So instagram was basically like a huge party episode Molly Eastern went to the grocery store in this is a crazy scene They had to go get food for Thanksgiving and stuff The Avocado Avocado joke. Made me laugh way too. Hard at how much pleased with our terrible pine because that's my love language. But then they kind of get into it because he doesn't want to go to her mom's because the heard. Stepdad Stanley is going to be there and his family's GonNa be there and then she like. I only want to meet them or trying to do that. And I'm still gonNA come to your house. They'd have pie. 'cause it's apparently is like their thing. Everything's given PA. She makes she does our Joe. I'm eat that pie all the way up. I'm fucked PA PA so yeah then Isa Has the put groceries back because she mentioned that you know she spending all this money on the festival and you know her you know Hurricane Dollah in the thick of right now so she shouldn't even be Biden's this molly's like Oh initi- mitten CNN. Like Molly let me say Lawrence and can dole out on a date or whatever And Molly ask her before this. Like oh she asks his he ran Andrew Thanksgiving and then he's GonNa pull the molly and scare them off. So I guess too soon right Kinda rough and you can see Molly Bristle at that and then you know just kind of like stops pushing her cart for a second watch either. Put the shape back like. Why are you putting back blocks and it was like you know? Yeah I saw Lawrence Condole out. Oh yeah that's right. She's I can't think of it or whatever and then molly goes way You stay cool. Whatever and she's like yeah I am out the other day and you know I was bothered at all or whatever and molly's I yeah Well I'm glad I'm glad a little troubles a success and Easter goes used just in the trouble with dro yesterday and the molly goes well. At least I was a fucking him for free weed and toiletries and that's easily boxing mass. Yeah it was like Kevin and Kevin Randle it is she was like Whoa okay. What the fuck is up? Because that was unnecessary so easily was decided that she was now that had crossed the line and she was offended. And I thought it was interesting because They have always had kind of a means. Humidors each other but That like that one thing being going over the line was interesting because I felt like all the things are kind of over line. You know like I wouldn't want anyone talking like that at all so then definitely not my love language. Yeah like they always had a mean show but I dunno I guess not really keying in on it and I think also meanest in a friendship like that it can be like. Some people can do that but they requires a level of trust that you have to have to do that. Like to be able to say something mean about somebody but they understand that you love them or whatever you know it was like a roast is like you can roast. Somebody you love. But you can't just be roasted somebody all the time to the point where they go wait a minute. Do you can hate me like. That's that's how it fails. So let's see Oh. They both agree that they've been for a few months and they're gonNA talk it out at Park Tommy Thanksgiving Then Lawrence Comes over to can dollas and shirt that I think was trying to explain blackness and gentrification he he basically makes a joke like he's GonNa lead drop off and leave and she's like no please don't go which he was kind of serious about he was like. I'll just joking or whatever which is another thing that might be like. Well maybe like I duNNo. I duNNO WE'RE GONNA get to that but that was interesting because he's joking and she's sincerely did not want him to leave. In that moment she was not joking and like you said she's not like funny in the way they're like eases money or whatever where she might have gone along with the joke She's not she's not funny in the way that any I don't think she has a sense of humor I think she's goofy but that's different than having humor because there was nothing in that exchange literally just got there that he would seriously believing. It was very much a okay. I'll just see myself out. You know he'll go right now. He's not really going anywhere. But then it belies again it goes back to the invitation so she took him seriously but he was the leans. So how would he know that she didn't want him there? If that PAL reacted if he jokingly timeline you see what I'm saying? Yeah yeah absolutely like and also though. I'll just add this too because maybe she could be money. Whatever but I think we got to see some her baggage this time and I think also that type of humor is earned and it takes time a lot of times when people like some people they can be funny but it takes time like they're not funny right away. You know cares like that. Yeah Karen was like that. We first met like herring wasn't funny Through you know lots of hard work and time and trust and shit. She became very funny. I mean like she under she kind of understood like humor. Comedy is like a. If you've got a stargazer you see those people that I do. Like trapeze artists. Whatever fuck and how they have like the Navanethem or whatever like you. Kinda need the net to do the comedy. You know that when you fall you'll be all right and condolences. And it was like she thinks when she falls. It'll all be ruining fucked up forever. She's like no no no. We have to be serious about this where you know. And also maybe because she's of her career. I could see her wanting to be taken serious more often but yeah I I feel she. She's definitely type A. It's not it's not natural. Comedy is just not there And of course compared to e Saint Lawrence. It's time close. You know what I mean. So then she oh. Her sink is broke. Is she said a guy came over to fix it but he was like. Oh it's a sink sink and left and never came back and he was like I can fix it and I was like this shit on talking about with Lars though like like this is why he's at this event is he wants to be a big and it's it's like the least problematic version of problem. If you know what I'm saying like it's like a character flaw. We all can be like. It's not that bad. A character flaw but it is. You know it wasn't a missile sticky situations and so now it looks up. Torio. U2 Car fixing things for players. Let's see watching finishes lurking our hair. Let me ask you this. Twenty ask you let me ask you this. Do you think that the reason why mourns is like this is because he was he still feels away about being so useless quote unquote and the end of his relationship with Isa like he wants to prove he deserves to be around Doing all these things and trying to be this person as opposed to like some sort of I know I know everyone hates them but like kind of like manipulative just out here trying to be the the the TV Nice Guy You know the United States. We're not people like Oh nice guys. Expect all the stuff just for being nice. I think that because he doesn't want to feel as useless and as disposable as he did when he was with with Isa Oh absolutely and plus compound about the fact that she cheated on him. You know I think that phone fucked with his value. I think I think this is Because People Kinda did the gender war thing with the show is like Men All trash women all trash but uses a bomb. You have all this argument but at the end of the day I think if you just look at it from a human perspective they both had different trauma throughout the relationship and his is just one of life I was not worthy of this woman therefore sheets because remember he internalized that at some point like it went from it went from anger to Kinda disagree. I forget who talked to him? Derek when Darren was like yes but she liked cheated on you. Because you wasn't being the manuals which you know any other event would have flipped agendas most of us like you victim blaming Blah Blah because man. We're like damn you know and we're rooting for each show. So we're like yeah. He should've been takes two to tango type stuff and so I think that's lost to him. Forever like m maybe the only quote unquote solution would be for them to have a healthy relationship with twenty him at his mind because because he's not going to be able to necessarily get from anyone else and overextending yourself to who you've only been dating for some small amount of time. Seems you know it does seem like it? Would it would lead him. You know doing stuff like this so yeah I think that's a great great observation that he's overcompensating for his perceived lack of usefulness or you know maybe not proceed maybe realistic to some people but His overcompensating now so But yeah but it's also funny because We realize it more in this episode but these people don't necessarily know each other's history that much a he knows more she knows more about his history with eastern and stuff then she knows about he knows about hers. It seem so Anyway he tries to fix the say. Oh he does deceit quo. Molly goes repairs career. Her mom brings up her way. I I love how they put all the black twitter share in in Mali's Thanksgiving like her mom brings up away but but but it didn't become like a black twitter thing where she didn't say well. What about the DAD cheating on you? That's what they would have did on twitter. You know they would've stayed Abbassi Hashtag clapback. Yeah Okay Yeah Yeah. You're right rather who? Who's dating the pregnant chick that et tell Andrew about what she's like that baby's not even here's what was he doing? He comes over with the pragmatic and she makes a joke about or she tells them on the low light. You know you got three months to get out of this. He's like why do people keep saying that her dad comes over officer. Solly doesn't take it. Says she tried to cut back on the sugar but also noted Molly still matter her dad? 'cause she found out that he cheated on her mom twenty years ago and they worked it out. Isa at a mall go to their MOM'S CRIB and when they're walking towards the house they see the ambulance and they start running then they realized is not their mom who's hired Steinle her. Stepdad and they our daily. Don't worry about it. And then they found out he slipped on some gravy hurt his hip and now he's got to go to the hospital and their mom. Lila is going to go to the hospital with Stanley. And she's like but eastern Amal Yasha stay hang out with Stanley's kids who apparently adult twins Kisha. Who HAS ALOPICIA and I forget the other one's name and soon anti Cassandra. Yeah as soon as the ambulance pulls off They they leave their like. Are they go out fuck with adult twin like? There's a very specific I don't fuck. He added a left. So that was that was that scene Lars is hanging out with condolence away. I forgot and of course the actress they have plane. Isa's mom was Possibly have dark skinned children so color. Ism reared its ugly head and the show was cancelled as far as I'm concerned even though we haven't seen their father the birth father I don't care how dark years okay I don't give a fuck. I'll care I'll care is Lance Ready Okay it don't matter who plays his part canceled okay. This'll be our last view. It's funny how they always raise works only one way but okay anyway so then She and not only that. Not only that to completely there. There are times when the show gets credit for hiring You know these black actresses who are blocked famous and wouldn't get really hired anyone else. I've seen them get credit for that or not actors with actors. I see them get credit for that but then for this all of a sudden it's you're not looking at it as toss amac remember her real name Being hired you. It's just because you couldn't find anything else monitors episodes. That's what I see right. I think it's a great episode and people could not find anything to be not about. They chose would also have them. They're mad to auto prediction that Shit. They had that are wrong so then they have. Oh what about this though like okay? We saw her twenty seconds on screen is going to be okay So then they end up going to they leave. They leave because they don't want kids Martin's our condolence friends song brings up a job. Restructuring speaking a witch. You know all all black people except for like one woman who was light skinned who. She looked racially ambiguous but all black people like they had a lesbian couple. That was about to get married there. They had Black French man up in there like it was just like black goals Alexander Crib. I was like okay. Twitter with definitely approve of this but yeah while the hanging out someone brings a largest restructuring and this was the same I really was like wait but but anyways subtle stuff but Lawrence was doing so much to lie he will give an off. I'm condolence man energy you know what I mean like. Yeah like like almost you would take a picture like to the point where other people in the room with like almost swooning. Where like. He's looking deep in her eyes and being like Oh you know oh so you know she knows how to throw a party or whatever everybody's Lou. Whatever not they he you know. I think he wants to be that guy for someone. You know Yeah but Yeah at the same time. I think he'd mis read the room why everyone was like so happy for like. I don't think they were specifically like. Oh my God condolence and Lawrence finally. I don't think that's what they were thinking. I think they were just Kinda like condole has been going through shit for a while. And we're just happy. She has she seems to be happy. You know what's a good guy with a with a with a decent if indecent guy not a decent? I was a good guy because who knows what happened with X. Right it was very much that and I've read it wrong to until later seen all. They really liked him considered as a thing. But then I was like. Oh no no. It's just when you when you watch your friend go through something terrible and then something not something way not even not terrible way better and that's the only way that you're looking at it right. Douse is so crazy. 'cause this show is so good because I really had not thought much about canola her divorce and her past until this episode. I remember thinking when they first met and how it didn't seem like they were GonNa work out but now looking now looking at on like yeah. This is the way to write this. Where there's a bombshell almost. But Not really a bombshell like you know. She has a history. She's a whole person care so then But yeah he he does the whole like you know You know I'm I'm everything. Great you know just like Spike Lee parties and Odyssey. It and everybody loves her And then I think we go to Mali. So Molly's teaching our nephew out a photo table set in her mom. Ask Her like why you know when you get a baby. You know typical I in. She was like what about the babies you had out of wedlock or something like that. I duNno black twitter. Hashtag twitter Thanksgiving So then her She's basically why what I am dating somebody but Donald basically like too soon to like bring them over and she shows her a picture of Andrew and she's like is he Korean. My favorite joke. Though was she likes. I'll need you. Bynum Lynch one boy. She's like mom was high school. He wasn't my boyfriend. He was my bully her mom. Which are you doing in my business? I don't know why you laugh. So hard. She was delivering is so then. Her brother sees the picture. Eh Drew A. He's he's a Asiago is crazy enrich and then Ma. The Nevada is like molly should a bottle and she was. I trust we would have been on our best behavior. And the referring that was like one of my words from week but I was also they like they like they would have stopped. They wouldn't have roasted this Negga for being Asian. So yeah there's nothing to worry about her family and Shit. So that's that's another check mark on my box of Malia Andrew being together So she said don't worry about a thing because she said you know Easel was saying too much of our bottom and she and her mom say. Don't you worry about it? They if he's right for you he won't take you too much. Don't over think it plus ligature brothers. They don't overpay nothing. Thousand Bossy started texting me. Because look we were right about everything and he was just hating on the chat. Rooms like DIS nigger. Don't know who's going out. It was a good guess. Nomination gives at all We say eastern a Maga to a Mexican restaurant to eat but the wait is an hour. East asked to molly that. I'M GONNA be late for Pie in Mali. Just TAKES BACK. Do you girl Which is also interesting too. Because that's my move them out me and my parents every year is when my mom doesn't feel like cooking or whatever we just go to like an ethnic restaurant on Thanksgiving or Christmas but the wait is never an hour. I feel like if the wait was our just make matter of fact the wait was our one time we did leave. We walked right down the block to to an Indian restaurant. They had a buffet. Who is like no? We're not waiting our food on Thanksgiving. Yeah I'm really confused. I'm not conceived underscores the point that he didn't want to have the conversation Because I also don't see why she wouldn't be like if if her and molly were cool then she would have said can't live my house. Let's go yours or something like that. Now she would have been against a mall and an eastern coming over but then it also gave us like some really cool. I'm on eastern moments which I'm thank God because I was really not feeling him so I'm glad you're with me too. Man Like the great job for the writers once again on this because They really got a chance to like. Give them all some room because until they've made him so I know that it's just been like mean and comic relief. And then they kind of made them actors this week so I can dollas the new couple of shown with one of them and play by my girl. Arriving the-the-they Who I know black. Twitter has a problem where for some reason but I actually do think she's funny so I don't know she was. She cracked me up in this episode So she was playing Nikki Nikki. Who's WHO's the you can't be both of. But she is both of these. The friend. That is too loud and also talks too much like take wine. Don't be but she was both Issues I love she just g through. Our Party is such a like fun way like now like I loved like I would hate her in real life. Obviously but I loved seeing this character because she was just like say we're very tires like beret. He's saying in How they talked about. I think Lawrence as the two the couple. The two lesbian women like Yagi wins is wedding or whatever and can dolar authority in. Dolo recommends that they may be run out of art space because you can like customizable like do you want to plan our way. And then she was like no. I'm I'm never going there that al again. I'm overweight and I would never get married. Are you crazy a hey marriages for people? That hate marrying the bobble. She was just completely loudly. Listen to Mary. J. Blige She. She is over marriage as an institution and it was. Kinda news too large but once again he played it off as coup because the change the subject to lie. I understand 'cause like I would never get an s curl again. 'cause I burned my scalp and kills with Nikki okay. That isn't he's demographic apparently because she was across the room light light he's like I'm GonNa go get some more wine from the from the kitchen and she's like I would go what you see the back. Y'All scowls and take a lot. Yes they go to the kitchen and they they he's giving more WANNA stop in. She tells him like you're good for Condoleezza and after you just exactly what she needed after the divorce. She just need a casual. Fun Guy. you you know like nothing too serious. Almost Kala Tasha was for Lawrence. Did she goes. He feels Kinda awkward about it. You can tell. And then he goes to light washed out. Some glasses in the sink in the sink actually breaks And goes all over his nice his nice shirt so Let me ask you this. What about first of all Other got the The brother that was sitting next to drunk Nikki and he was like I lost so they judge presented differently but so so drunk. Yes I thought so hard that mommy because they were together. That was her boyfriend or husband or whatever and I actually liked that because it was one of those parents where you're like fuck it these two people together but he's like I'm also drunk you like that's out. They're together Are My bad. I didn't mean my I mean make you lose your place says okay. Oh nothing about Lawrence. That would make me things that he was a casual fun guy right like nothing about the way. He presented himself or the way that I'm guessing he was invented. Would have that Okay I can see it because one his shirt so this is the first time you meet Disney. He wearing that shirt he's flying to he made. He made a great escarole joke right three. This is from the perspective of drunk Nikki. Admittedly drunk may not be the best. Educate four Ma. Social is there like I said earlier I think condolence just being going through it and this is the first time that she's not going through it. You know what I mean. We don't know what her other husband was like. What her husband was like all this stuff. But I could see how somebody that knew condolence. Not Lawrence had not seen her be with anyone for year and a half as divorced. Maybe even sad maybe whatever and then just you know being drunk Nikki Khattabi like Oh yeah. This is good for her. She's having fun. Meaning your the funding. I like you're not like she's still didn't take him through because she don't Lawrence. She hasn't been through the journey. We have so to her. Agassi her be like. Oh my friend is smiling. Europhile Guy is good. She's having fun. Maybe in that way but yeah as as we know Lawrence through foresees now no. I don't think of him as a non serious parts in a day you know. Let's see Okay and then at dinner in a mall talk about Thanksgiving growing up. Dad threw token the pool back in the day on purpose. Amara had to bring his roommate Jordan to Thanksgiving and pretend they were just roommates. And apparently the payers made a passive aggressive prayer that year Like laugh about it and then each ask what happened to Jordan in a mall says oh he's trash. I like. We broke up and Saint. They were code he's you he's like. I'm done changing for people like Oh they are. Do you grow tax from Molly And she tells them all about seeing Lawrence with this new girl car Kendall a he doesn't she doesn't say that she can dollah from the party in is my planner so she just says he saw his new girl and I miss that it day by the her little bit And I think that's when he's like our together five years. And how long have y'all been broken up? I guess a year and a half and you know she's like in person he's he is now is not the person he was when we were together and the person that he is with this new woman and she's a. I got the nigger with potential. I got to work in progress. It took a lot of support and patients. I feel like he's she's reaping the benefits of his time with me and she. Oh let me shut up. Because I don't have a right to feel like that and he's now yeah right to feel hobby field Which I think you know like I say it's kind of like a redemptive moment for mall because it Kinda shows him as an actual supporter brother in a way. That like even molly isn't for you say at this point And also like I think. Easter has felt this guilt about filling the way she feels. You know what I mean and so maybe that was a thing for her is like 'cause I I also don't think she's coming from a negative place. I think she really is that thing. Where you WANNA be thinking? You're just not you know. Yeah it was. It was a fair placement. Glad she's finally admitted that instead of doing the whole being where she says. It's all good. It's all fine know right before Mr or whatever But I thought it was a moment of vulnerability without jokes that we get from a lot and I and I also like that she from a place of like. He's deliberately doing this just that I'm sorry my voice. This is all about the fact that that's not what I'm saying like it's not like a old Nigga didn't do this for me you know. He's doing all this for her and just kind of like kind of sad because he better. He's doing better now with me and I missed. I didn't get to see that side of have really natural thing but it wasn't like fuck that dude because of it it was like I feel because I feel it yeah. Ns that I find interesting about. It is is not really like. Isa's a the victimised. Because essentially she had an investment that she gave up on right before it hit Jackpot. You know what I mean like I said I can't. This isn't working. He's not GonNa get better and we of course all through season one he was making all these steps you know but she wasn't necessarily privy to it and she was so unhappy she was you know spending time with Dan Daniel and all this other shit so she wasn't necessarily seen Allah his work you know and also at the years of being on the couch. Maybe she just believe in his. You know like all going to do this you know. He gets the job at best buy. He starts applying all these different jobs that he thought that you know are beneath him because he was going to have woo pop often shit and so I could see how There's like a feeling what she can feel like. She doesn't deserve to be upset about it. You see what I'm saying like 'cause she she's like no. I don't have a right to feel like that. And I can see how she thinks she does have a right to feel like some kind of way. Because Hey I did basically cheat on this Nigga and give up on him and write like write him off and then boom he. He got it together And so you know who am I to say for him when really? I'm the one feel like fucked up and I kind of liked that. Her brother gave her permission. Like that really doesn't matter. Your feelings are like everyone got everyone got feelings. Why there's nothing like this shit was fucked up. It really wasn't a right or wrong answer to it and yes. Y'All both made some mistakes. And what the B sad. It's okay. Yeah so that the mall definitely being himself. After Four Seasons. I often for a long time. Yeah that was dope So then they have a band come over and they play them Asong. The Mariachi band which is cool does instagram. Live of. At Molly's Thanksgiving they play taboo. Molly is weird about being under DAS- team or brother pause it to the side and he's like can go talk in the kitchen for a second and he's like how long you GonNa Act like this towards Dad's been months as she was like well. You can pretend like it did happen. I but I can't and I love when he was like. What do you mean? Pretend it happened. Who her like like? Who Want to look like that? That is such a that is such a light. The millennial thing right that is our she is. That is the. Let's happen to this situation. It didn't happen to me in central Moscow and make. It seem like it happened just to me. It's like what does this do what you and take it harder to the person that happened to. And that's that's another thing that cleaned me onto. How much time attacked because that happened to me But she said a couple of months or he said a couple of months. You've been treating data weird for a couple of months and I was like okay. We'RE NOT. We're on a different time scheduled in the rest of the show right Oh I forgot to mention. He's also brought up. Lawrence was definitely paying for lunch a him and that was that was also a little bit because he will vote like a new. They ended our relationship for. I think three years they were together five years and so it sounded like for two of those years. He was doing good. He decided to quit their job. Whatever it was and invested himself and do that APP and so for three years or somewhere around that it was it was a struggle and yes she going remember to struggle flight so anyway yeah back back to seeing Molly's I you know he's like yo it happened to her. She's like I get that. I just saw that differently. And he said you focusing on the negative you keeping no in the part where the NIGGA STAY. Make things right and she says. Don't call data nagging say dad's Niggers to our grown up and I was like put that on a t-shirt okay. I'm just saying we're isn't it? I'll just say he's a regular. Do who fucked up. He owned and he made it right as she says. I guess but you can tell. It's one of those. I guess she's kind of a admitting. Like some level of defeat. Like okay like right. Yeah and I think we're him saying he fucked up admitted it. I think that also kind of Had the south to her because she started accepting that hey is walk up. I'm not always right. And I think that was that that Kinda gave her away to relate back to her father. You know what I mean. Yeah so I think also set the path for her doing better in relationship I think it's a little five tearing What's his name Andrew? No Andrew let her like actually tying. Okay yeah is that yeah and I think also because we met molly her thing has been. She's never wrong. She never apologize. She never and so this last like the start of the season and the end of last season. There's been the first time we've really seen her be like maybe I'm wrong about this thing. Maybe there's another way to think about this and I think it's really opened up her life to a lot of possibilities a lot of positive things even as people swear she's not doing stuff so then lies. Hells can clean up after the party and have a fight. 'cause he says thanks for inviting me and she says and Disney when I was like. Oh there's something would can dolar too because she was like technically. I didn't invite you you kinda invite yourself but I'm really glad you came and better with here and I was thinking to myself. Like doesn't a distinction. You don't necessarily have to make you know what I mean unless you Kinda. Maybe he did overstep his bounds. A little bit more time zone out a little bit. Oh Man Okay. So they are. I mean condoling Lars. Get in a fight at the party. He's hoping cleaned up and tells. Thank you for inviting me. And she's like Tim. We didn't invite you. You kinda invite yourself but I'm glad I'm really glad you came in a better with year and I was like that's some shady stuff because that's like you don't have to make that distinction unless you felt. He did overstep his bounds. And you wanted to let him know in a passive aggressive way. Yes I A hundred percent agree I was. That's why all the things that came after it. All about yeah. I didn't like that at all can look to build a lot and again. I just want to point out right. We knew it was. GonNa go down at this party and it had to be condolence fault for this to work but yeah Yup that we had to make you saw. Lawrence isn't necessarily the bad guy in this Even though clearly in any fight there's insecurity on both is all of this type of Shit I'm not trying to turn them into a martyr but like that. That was kind of like I don't know it was. It was a shady distinction to make at that time or whatever and if felt like if you had a good time jazz meeting and what if you had a good time? Why even bring that up? You know what I'm saying like. Why does it matter right? Why would it matter if you really had a good time? What the fuck is the problem with that and so I don't get it. Yeah I like I honestly tried to go back through my head. And that's when I went back every watch that beginning to see like well. Dan Was it like really awkward and I missed him by forcing himself into this party situation. I like that scene. Wasn't that awkward. You know what I mean. It wasn't awkward to a point where it's like. Oh my God. I can't believe I did that. Like it wasn't like that. And then later when he said he was dropping the ship leaving and she's just like no no no then I was I okay so that like that was her basically saying I really do want you here. Because she wasn't joking but yeah so then to hit them with the light well. University yourself was kind of like a low like backhanded. I'll know it's kind of a weird thing to say. It was the Okey Doke it was the Okeydoke and then all this stuff that came after with will would you like okay? So do you want dude or not like are you set that he ever dated Isa and then broke up with like what are what are you doing canola like what's happening here because? I don't think you know what's happening here right. That was I think she's she seems like one of those people and and I and I have a tendency to who doesn't know how to not be in a relationship even when they don't WanNa be in a relationship like she only knows chilly no relationship procedures even if that's not what she really wants like she could her hoping is dating someone she doesn't. WanNa marry but that's her whole face. Yeah I think also because they haven't been together that long we're as much as people. Talk About Molly rushing into it. They rushed into this thing where they were looked out coupled up at this event and clearly there there this burgeoning territory you know what I mean like fat. Oh so Because of anything it's been a couple of months that they have even been like going out if anything and probably not that. Because you'd like Latte like I think this week they said it was two months before the event so anyway. Yeah I just thought it was really really weird moment for her to do that Not that I think it was weird for her to feel that way. But it's just I don't knows just bring that shit so so then He goes so dry. Nikki was right. And what do you mean like she basically said is your fuck buddy as she's like no. It's not like that and I was thinking. Also maybe she's kind of a little bit like Lawrence where she don't want to hurt his feelings or whatever you know like maybe she does. She's still figuring this album. He's trying to say the right things to and it's still leaking through and he was like well. You know I was a little thrown out but I know learned some of the things I learned today light. You know you don't WanNa family. She's like I didn't say that he was like well. You don't WanNa get married issues. I don't WanNa get married. I just got out of a divorce a year and a half ago. And that's when he asks. Are you still getting over your eggs? Which is like nigger you. Did you not see chess game that you're playing like this about to be like your ass about Checkmated on this link is like ex exits being around. You have probably never married ex. And she's working with yours by her choice but she's working with yours. No is going to be an issue and she was like well. If anyone should be concerned about exhibition be me Jokes ABOUT MOVIES AND. Y'All had to save friends and she basically it was like you know if he's having a cheated on you without even have broken up and he was like what she did so it don't matter but if she hadn't and then they just sat there in silence and is like. Fuck Checkmate So what did you think about that? Argument I. I'm sorry team. He learns here because Yeah if if she had cheated on him they wouldn't have broken up. Like what is your point like if your husband hadn't done whatever he did y'all really married like I'm seeing how that's a that's A. That's a senior civilian. Someone's face Number two everything I okay. Here's what I don't. Here's what I here's where I am with this. Lawrence wants a family. We've known that Lawrence wants to be married. So if he's with somebody who doesn't want that then he asked the question whether or not he he is. This is the right situation for him. It's like Kevin Realizing that you know he was with Zoe even though she doesn't want kids and realizing he wants kids and then Athletes Zoe because they don't want the same thing so I don't see a problem with morning wanting something or wanting to progress into something else I don't I don't fault him for that and then if that's not what's happening and he has every right to step away. Y'All think also he would like to him. Wanting to one day be married is not necessarily this unforgivable. Sin Her not wanting to be married is not some unforgivable thing either and I think also them Recognizing the newness of all this and you know. They clearly have had certain conversations. She talks about how she knows. Easter cheated on him so they've talked about the clearly. It's not just completely out of the blue but I think also new relationships this is when the insecurities hop out right. It's these these these crossroad moments in in relationships. Either get past or you don't and I can see how people coming in with their own trauma their own. You know issues from previous relationships. Bring that to the new relationship you know what? I mean so You know part of the reason. I feel like he was so kind of protective of of like not one Easter. Like come in and talk out of stuff to candy was Condello was partially because he was like I would like to get to know me it at our own pace and all this year and you know clearly that is not. It wasn't ready for couples night with every body or whatever so computers Miss Things. Go the way that Coca Cola found out. The ISA was Lawrence's X. The way that condolence came to his apartment and presented it made it seem as though she was also in the mindset that this was going to go further than just like whatever casual thing they were happening. I don't think warrants is wrong for thinking that this was more than actually was right everything everything that was set up because it wasn't wasn't what there are plenty of other things you could fuck in. La. I assume I don't know but like why would you just have a fling with somebody with all these all this drama and you know bullshit surrounding if you didn't want more than that so for me. All this other bullshit was happening and you still chose to be here. That means you're making a firm decision to do something more than just just the Okeydoke saying yeah absolutely and I think it wasn't necessarily drawing. Nikki's musings that set it off more than he was he was again. This is also him right when she says about marriage he just jokes about the S. Carl but he was clearly bothered by that you know what I mean. He acted like it was cool. But you know and I mean what? Are we supposed to do as a party like? Stop the conversation but but like you know I think her bringing up and this is TV obviously power bringing up that shit about ten. You invite yourself started. Essentially a avalanche of both of them having issues that are bothering them in their heads. That just came out all at once as opposed to. Hopefully if you get if you had to pick. You had your choice of how to do this. You would maybe have several small conversations that lead to like so. I noticed you were kind of talking about this or an aesthetic happened all at once in an argument so it looks terrible but I think the points. You made a very valid. If I hadn't cheated they'd still be together right right right right. Well I mean Kinda Kinda because I think if the point was cheating or not cheating our headed for a break up. I kinda understand film more. Like yeah he's over her but her thing is like if it wasn't for this thing y'all y'all could y'all would've state you were happy with hers. Is the point like you. You actually were happy in so does like miserable action that you trying to like tell people or tell yourself even is not really true and when I see you having like chemistry talking about the movies and Shit together. There's something there that is not here and like like Y'all could've worked at or could still work that out. I think was more of the underlying point he was making was like like this thing was was big enough. You gotta break up which are really aren't broke up in Kinda is Kinda have failed to me. let's see a Mall. Isa pull up the malls and they have a little bit more out. It was like nice and then her mom takes them being like thank you for staying hanging out with the family. They were We should have did. I hung out his family and it was like Nah. It's like Oh my God that was oh that also that was such a funny moment. 'cause I thought they were going to get serious and reflective and they were so like fuck them other people then it was like she used to say we should have did that and then Also Oh wait guys missing Bazi. Give me one saying it So Yeah Maldon ISA's dropping off them all and in the mall says that You know you ain't got to do SOM- because they say you supposed to therapists say And I was like. Oh my gosh someone on. The show is actually still going at their shelter that they hug and they leave. I love her because her and she goes. I still hate you like me to engage car lead and now they're they're relationship makes more sense. You know what I mean and like even low key between this and Molly's family after like Easter and molly's relationship makes more sense that they talk to each other so rough because that's how their families communicate and they still can love each other through all that but no trust in the love. Isn't there then it. Obviously that it takes on a whole different town And then ISA tax. Molly is cool to talk another time. Because I think that's the lesson she took from. You Ain't got to do what to do or some shit which I'm not sure that's the right. Listen but okay. She takes molly. We talk another time. Molly gives her data slicer pie which signifies that her dad or coup. Now I think and then she shakes when she gets a from lease from Easter like typical S. She's like yeah. That's fine and later Larson. His house looking at looking for the Toyota would've police ever congress with a Toyota. The journalists like I would was looking for a black girl named La. Toya a like a noteworthy question. They go back and take a picture to tell you that was funny. Lawrence guests through is story. Chaz wife as Mad. We still haven't seen her phase. Kelly has trainer. Come over for Thanksgiving are they or are they just that? Co 'cause they met at a party I don't think they got. They got cool at the party. That makes so much sense though China and Kelly would would make a they can naked. Should remake BAPS okay. Hbo dewitt Dare Gets Food From tiffany. Who Sleet and fell asleep on the couch and Lawrence sees bodily the guy would addicting. I have no idea what that's like. I don't I don't know what that came from anyway instead. Lorcy Isa of ISA's posed with the Mariotti ban and he taps the laughing. Modique on it which I didn't learn to a year or so ago. Apparently save a direct message to the person. If you laugh on it then it goes to private messages. Which I don't understand that setup. Okay I don't why is see you have now turned my friendly like Oh my God Emoji. You're working out to like Lugar Heart Emoji. You work in now privately. Talk about this. I now don't respond to anyone stories on facebook or instagram. Because I know like some creepy nigger like it feels to me and then on the show. They confirmed that it is kind of a creepy move because then it turned into a private jet. And he's of clearly about the respond back and Lauren's face was smiling and cases to start playing and in a show in like. Oh my God so good so so good. That was the moment that everyone started writing their emails into the show apologized to us and stuff. And I'm like I said they might not be expect accepted but I will expect them. So let's get to our other segments Was there any guy acquired? This is the part where I say that I went to high school with my and we were on the dancing together. I'll were okay okay You know I I. You should take more credit for success. The value I should say. I inspired her her rival. That pushed her to the limit. Okay Was there a character? You identify this week for this could be us Mourns honestly okay mine's If he was supposed to take that he did she didn't want it he didn't and I'm not good at that like you tell me not to. You don't want me to or whatever 'cause I will always feel like why don't want to hurt someone's feelings by not doing X. so I ended up doing. I don't really. I'm not really sure I should be doing Credit going to look bad. It's not bad no. I don't want to hurt anybody else's feelings or I don't want to seem like I'm being callous with other feelings so I will you know I'll fix it or I'll do this And also wanting to feel like you deserve to be someplace And make yourself indispensable base so awfully Lawrence. Mine is a molly's brother That's my specialty alike. But what about this other perspective? My friend you know and like the way he put the stuff with the father you know was like he put it in a in a way. That made a plane For Mali in a way she hadn't been willing to accept or whatever understand And that was though and I love how he pulled her to decide to do it and not like in front of everybody or whatever like he just I look. At what point are you going to move on from this day like and especially I gave her time? Like he said had been months like all. Those things are things I can. Do you know what I mean like. All right you've been dealing with this world while picking up wondering when you were GONNA put it down. But what do you think about this way of looking at this and so? I thought that was a cool moment. And in fact he was advocating for somebody else. Not really for himself or whatever. I don't know all that Shit I love it. It's not as you say this ain't me? Who was the person you weren't feeling this week? Canola Kinsella thinks she. She's she's sent mad signals Just for the moment we met her on. I wasn't feeling she approached it. I didn't like Oh you regularly approach yourself. I mean you invited like all that was just like I don't think it's going to. I don't know I don't I? I wasn't feeling that it was interesting because I the obviously the show is not necessarily about this but for the first time it made me wonder what happened to her. Divorce like how what happened. What what how did they get divorced? What was her husband like a y? What was she like after the divorce? Because you know she sounds. Lawrence is the first thing that she's even thought of dated in a year and a half. You know what I mean. So yeah man. Oh Man oh I gotta I gotTa go back everything. Condolence has said since the moment we met her has been her on I'm into relationships. Type Shit like why. Why would it bother her? That warns was worried about her being being divorced. Why would she be so bothered? I Dunno I like Dole anymore. Well I thought it was cool. I'll when they first went on a day she brought up something about the divorce. And then he's had to rewind episode but I do remember it coming up their first day him kind of being like this is a this is me kind of stepping out at the first of all. I like after my divorce and now I didn't know if this or something like that and then after that it seemed like everything was cool but I feel like that's how life works. That's like that's like the most. That's a realistic. Righting moment to me is like shit like this comes in waves and then you reach these next points in relationships where you get tested and it's like well. Maybe you aren't really out here is supposed to be dating. You know what I mean or like like this is what happens in. I mean she has gone through this break up. You're like should I date other people or not? Whatever amount of time it is. The something happens in the next relationship. That is a cross rose where it's meeting the parents on Thanksgiving a fucking traveling together. Whatever and then there's like Oh wait. I'm not actually as okay as I thought I was. That's just human and so I but at the same time as a what do we call ourselves. Lisa Larissa necas Lisa as Larussa as Lisa. Truth there You know give me back to lars. Ezer is acceptable. But I I mean but I do like the show writes these characters to me. These characters are sympathetic. Like I do like that. I cannot in another show I would watch condolence. Try to figure out but the Saint. Saint they were Nathan. I want to show about Nathan and trying to you know rollins but yeah this is the least a show but yes so for me. The person I wasn't feeling this week. Man you know. I don't know honestly I feel I. I kinda like actually I low key e sleman lucky most. I mean she flaked on her fam- whatever you know. Kinda Kinda sucks but like that is she said the molly in the store was fucked up. And you know she she and then like. I hate when People Punch you in play victim when you punch on back when she was like. Oh that's too far NIGGA. Everything was too far like y'all were fighting our fighting with smiles on your faces. You can't be like out. I'm injured now like we're supposed to stop you know so I thought that was Do appreciate the oddest or whatever but just in that one moment I just. I don't know I was not feeling her just because she went like they were both playfully joking joke fully hating on each other for so long to then turn up and be like. Wow you really are the one. That's the problem is like Nigga wet. Yeah this This too much moment. The moment like this is too much Oh I think it is the scene of a grocery store. 'cause I had moments I was like. Oh I guess a couple of Times. I'm like Oh my God yes. The barbs were too much for me so definitely that grocery store that back and forth barbs us like okay. No you don't like the And I would also say from me. My district much moment was condole asking Lawrence about the cheating and they just let the camera sit there for like an extra ten seconds of silence as I. Oh 'cause 'cause you know what that means. The answer is yes. If she hadn't cheated they won't vedic like the camera as the question for us Whoa then let's see what else we got. This is y'all okay. Talk about Y'All be back. Moseley should be apologies and never doubting us again and you guys can stop trying to have your own opinions and and understand Let's see this from John. Nassir when this'll be read or if it will even be rare but I heard the review and wanted to share my opinion or the Andrew Molly situation. He's like Andrew was keeping things because it's twice that molly has flip flopped on him from a not even being sure she wanted to be with Asian guy be. She wasn't being honest with him about not saying folks like am truly and she left him hanging in nine out of ten. When it's a guy who messes up? It takes a ton of work beyond a month to reassure women that he wants to make up for tripping for a Lotta ladies. The one time mistake dust settle for the rest of the dating phase. And just in general. Nobody who has been disregarded twice is just going to open up easily also Andrew as a guy so of course he was still sleeping with molly and as a sounds like you're making some allowances for Andrew. Just because he has a day John off fills me and as this shows mostly about black women. It doesn't cover. How any non black man feel about being with black women a Lotta Times now? Black folks overall treated outsiders of a ton of things relationships for us. Black folks are big deal and not a compartmentalization but we don't really think it could be the same for others to at Molly isn't just a regular black woman. She's a professional and bits of the stereotypes she exhibits are exactly something. And you can bring up for obvious reasons. Gye Okay John will sounds like you may have some issues around some black women may want to explore and some type of therapeutic setting with a professional but other than that I see exactly what you're saying. You know you just take away all of that. I think also this to me I end in the way. I've always viewed his like to me. This is kind of relationships. Are those like the thing. Y'All have lease flawless relationships with Y'all never change your mind. Never FUCK UP. You never apologize to me. The apology and the Willingness to work through it and make things right is what makes it good. It's the is is the reason why everyone was so hating on molly when she was upset with her parents When she found out there was cheating and they worked it out. But essentially y'all have become molly with our parents when it comes to molly's relationships it's like you up the end focused you you know you. You don't deserve another chance. You don't deserve to be forgiven. And all this shit as far the table of this show. I mean you're right. Everything on his show does seem to move quickly or whatever but I don't know I don't find that where she's at with. Andrew is some rest thing especially because when he said I'm going to need time to work on that and she said I got all the time or I got time for some time so to me that implies that she is willing the way she's not rushing here she's she's just being four we're communication. It'd be like this is what I like. This is Kinda the thing that I think. Isa and Lawrence Struggle with is saying. This is exactly what I would want out of this situation and I'm going to communicate it with you if that changes Ali seems to be the only one who actually is growing and developing and to do those things and and every time I mean ultimately episode every episode like people will be like Oh but Molly didn't do this that. And the other and the very next episode. We'll get a line saying that she did do that. And like Andrew. All Ed's So and then people like oh well she did this and she changed your mind so I understand why he would want to talk to her. Why wouldn't want to open up to her? The very next episode. We're exclusive now so like what? What do you like it when it's being we're seeing that they're moving forward and they're progressing In in in ways extends to whatever the relationship that they wrote for them is and even the previews for next episode. Where Andrew is saying? I feel like you're not making space for me between work and whatever so now molly has to learn how to balance a relationship and work like it's never. I don't think at this point it's ever going to be a thing where Molly fucked up and Andrew Gone like they're showing prentice said in that in that action. Do we're going to see what molly looks like in a relationship so molly is going to be in a relationship like that. There's nothing you to let go of this molly that we that that of drake lyric people. What is it like my my you? I am not draper to move from four years ago on some other shit. I don't know what's popular but this is not the molly that we knew four years ago like she's off the mothership like we're learning that she rowing and we we have all the poop in the world that that's what's happening we kind of have that instead of going back and sees one like remember that time when she did that thing like that she's not going for the other thing. I love about the way they. Rightness is typically in the show where like Easter. Raise the lead so you know I think the the way most people either would approach this or the way people act like they want to see it they were just making like you so was right all the time. Right like eastwards the one who's outgrowing molly molly the problem and they gotta flipped it and they made. It seems like to me as a unbiased and not hater it seemed like molly is growing out of the relationship eastern. She's the one that's GonNa stop sharing these milestones relationship because every time she shares incident holds the past against her in also my like Molly's literally during the stuff. Isa says she should a deal the other times and in Isa's going what are you GonNa fuck that? This is why that's not right and you don't need that type of energy in your life man. Sometimes it's not like she's doing some abusive shared or some you know some harmful thing like he just and maybe it's because he's not in that space or whatever but she can't even see it for molly she can you know that's Kinda fucked up to me so Ms One K. L. says. I'm single one night when I say also I think that I think a lot of people were saying to that. that You know it's molly that doesn't want molly has to be superior to Isa And making her feel bad or whatever but I think that I think he said it's like you said the one who used to be the one who is more stable in relationships than so she can't handle it back. Molly was getting better and that way too. So there's no I don't know there's no there's no clear cut villain right now but you can't be like molly on the wrong all the time. Lawrence is the one that song on the because that's not that's being disproven over and over again. Yes because I think the show is sounds like it's going to keep hammering that molly is growing and trying to make positive changes in our life over the head and maybe people made people get it or not but it seems like they're not done with the storyline of light. Look Molly is actually taking the same adversity that Isa goes through and trying to confront it upfront Nba communicative about it. Oh communicate about it. Right away as opposed. Isa's Kinda like Oh. This is cool. This is cool. This is good. This is cool actually. It's not cold. It's terrible and I'm just GonNa blow everything up you know and same thing. Kinda with With Lawrence a little bit like he he also. This is cool. This is not cool so I don't know I kind of fucked with. Molly's approach And I don't know what John Problem. That's one of the things that Y- that's just something that that I was just thinking about the brought up like Warren in an Isa are doing the exact same thing as far as trying to get to be four steps ahead of where they actually are not really admitting where they actually are. So why is it like complete like mayhem when Lawrence does it? But we're supposed to understand why pieces doing yes. Yeah and the other stuff about Adrian not wanting to bring stuff because stereotype of black women and shit out. I don't even this and I just want to bring this to John. This is not real life so that I don't think that's a consideration that that we have to give. It's like yeah. I don't know if you've had with black women stereotypes and stuff but this is a scripted TV show so I don't think that's necessary to Has To be vague in if a scripted. Tv show. It doesn't take cues from twitter and they are shows that actually take thirteen and this isn't is just the whole like condoms thing like all right. Fuck you with the continent thing. Any other show would apologize for it written into like this thing. This insecure is not doing right and they will miss one K. L. says. I'm so happy to hear your view. Now say to the young fresh but I did not idea when heroes perspective from people who are not under thirty five like myself anyway. I love the way you described using condolence friendship. Being in the honeymoon phase so was Lawrence and condolence relationship until today like it was in the honeymoon phase everything. It was cool out the new students. Don't you know you had that moment where it gets real? He's like wait a minute. So many other reviews. I've seen all just airtime molly. Yep Easter should get the bag and of course befriends canola as Bossy say is weird the quota your review under thanks Molly Overseas Bossy. Twenty twenty. Well she is going to be on a VP. Take confirming my ugly truth. I'm Mike Molly and ways. I'd like to not be as well. Damn I came here for. Entertainment not reflected with a time on compensates. Awful people are just not who are not honest with themselves. Your view breakdowns. Just refreshing in Cypher. Appreciate that in these anxiety field times me me me me thinking class rb. Low says our BOC- I've thought about your comments about using molly and last week's podcast and you're right. Molly has been doing everything to turn over a new leaf as it were hat heck even though we have not seen the therapist. I would not be surprised. She was still in Patriot. Y'All that is that is locally. Something I would really think would be. Don't have a moment. Where later in the season they cut to her as she is feeling therapy because a house he ended it or whatever and we and that makes some sense where it's like well no wonder she's she's fighting hard to make these changes in her life. Like no fucking wonder she never even consider that? But that is actually true She might even be helping me to see that. She cannot maintain toxic relationships and expect positive. Changes has not evolved properly evolve beyond season. Why I think a lot of you. Don't see it because offers evil has been lying cheating shitting her white work. Three co-sign the racist treatment of Latin kids by the principle that one that one was a major one for me and I understand how people did not see that storyline as Isa was wrong. Why like I? I've heard people make arguments about and I mean I'm like this show. Do you watch this show to show is telling you was wrong. He wouldn't apologize if it was right like she like that. Was I just feel like check off the boxes that he will always talk about like the white woman was right? So Fuck White. Women is not black kids who against the black kids have benefited from the racist treatment or the Latin Skis. So fuck that in such a twitter moment where my Nigga in real life you want to read? A part of my. I don't want these these kids. These Spanish speaking kids and Latinos kids. I don't want them to get educated or prepare for the PSAT's Shit y'all okay with etfs come on man anyway. That's what I should have. No I should have known like oh I cannot watch this show would alternative to the ISA is flawless. Now the show is always had molly be worse. This season that roles have been reversed and people can't process as for me. I hope Malia Andrew last two people can outgrow it just can't grow together perform a powerful union. But I know that the is our Malia. Andrew won't last season. Yeah they really do like ship the men and out for the most part except for Lawrence. So I'm kind of interested to see if Dan your Nathan like reappear some point Could you just never know in this case in the show up shit up not stuck shit up but like make You know just causes a little wrench in in any any quick Lisa proceedings. I can see that because they did bring him up at the beginning us. He's in Yeah which makes us out. And he sounds like he's still roommates were Andrew so This episode continues with the development of the growing rift between eastern Mali. At least got to be honest about how she feels about Lars and canola with her brother. it would be nice if she acknowledged his truth to molly but he says he won't let her admit that. Molly sees truth when it comes to a situation. That is one of the interesting things I think. So and brought up in the chat but Easter have been or maybe it was just bossy whoever is being a relationship for five years and molly not. I'm sure there were lots of conversation. East got feel like the authority figure. You know like well. It says my related. Let me tell you what you need to do. And then now it's kind of reversed and maybe that's why does it feel comfortable saying you know are not handle it as well. I'm not you know this isn't a great thing you're right because now you know and that's why also watching feels comfortable steel telling molly you know you fuck this up you you know you do it too much in. Nano Shit The first crack in the laws can tolerate ship emerges and we get closer to Lisa. I grew to the people who think the ship has there aren't themselves. Those two are the game you know thought. Her friend was tiffany. Then I realized it was Robin PD. Oh Wow that's that's very colorist view. Classic RB Lover Well. Yeah I did that for secretary. Let's see Oh Yeah Yeah. I just don't see how people don't think the Lawrence and Easter being together to end is a at least an attainable thing in the script. I don't I don't know what they're looking at but seems like that's a major theme guys since episode one. Hey Riding Bisi thank you all because it's definitely include care for all that you do especially in a time of corona they'll write about you in the history books onto insecure eastern. Her brother being friends and I won't more I. It was dealt to. Y'All via the chat room. I told you I'll chat room at ISA would have an issue of Lawrence was treating condole Abedin. He treated her well. You were right then buddy but he also wants to do he is doing. What can Delaware Isa? He thought he would be by. Condolence asked him if he would be together easily they hadn't cheated. He was reminded that he had probably envisioned getting his life together the NBA with Isa. Yeah I mean I could see that man I mean I'm I'm sure in Florida that's the thing I never really liked about. The hate of ours is because I'm sure enlarge his mind he was like because one day. I'm going to be paying for all the meals taking you out blah blah blah in his mind now. Obviously he was too stubborn weight. No his act to pop off. And all this shit ain't fell into a Rut but I- idea of like this predatory Nigga who was just like try out to destroy Isa's live and Shit just never sat right with me. Yeah and and and it's not like he was on the couch trying to be a rapper. He was working on something. That just wasn't working out when he didn't know when to bail on it or he didn't know he didn't know you didn't know when to bail on it and he was like if I if I drop this it could pop at any moment and then I lost my opportunity So yeah he wasn't just he just wasn't a a bomb taking care. Just you know taking advantage of a Isa. I don't know yeah. We met him. We met him at her most fed up with him. And I feel like that was. That was such a smart thing for the show to do but it also has. It had people project in so much into Lawrence into he became like this monstrous circus of a negative. Why he became like this dude. That completely Is a parasite and Even when the show plane like the deconstruction era relationship and all that stuff people just never really consumed any of that they just. Kinda only cherry picked information that went with their theories It's almost like the show. Could BENEFIT FROM A? This is us. Type flashback to when they first got together you know what I mean like. I know they did the montage thing before but like if they like if they kinda go back to light what made them click When they first met in those first two years at a relationship where he's without his potential that she saw like if they get Kinda give moments that maybe people would be less Less judgmental or whatever but at the same time it beneficial for people to be kind of you know project a lot but I feel like we saw a little bit of that between when she stops talking with Dan you and before he found out we saw like I remember like some of those scenes when they were when he didn't know that she cheated and she was done like there was. I saw why I remember thinking. Oh okay I see what they were. They were together. They kicked him a certain way. They're they're fun together. They actually really care about each other. The whole thing like I felt that I saw that I don't think it's beyond I don't know but I I feel like I saw that. Well I think I think I'll wait for them. I would like yeah. I think you and I saw because we've just not been haters but I think clearly you can look at the chat. A lot of the audience then said you know what I mean. Like oh they have accepted it like so. It's almost like if they had like almost a prequel episode or something made people would be like maybe they're saving that you know. Maybe that's the episode. You do before the wedding or whatever like but does moment whereas like on. This was actually like a star-crossed love you know. This is actually supposed to be in our time as opposed even the stuff we're talking you were bringing up. We saw that through the Lens of a guilty. I just cheated on this warming so it wasn't like it wasn't as untarnished lars is trying lars is doing better laws you know. But they're having awkward sex. 'cause she's thinking about Daniel fucking her and all this type of shit so maybe if we saw like. I don't know the unblemished love that people you know. Kinda go up for. Maybe we saw that. And I'm like I don't know I I'm saying Jack Right. Your wishes coming true. Looks like we're episode away from Lawrence and Condello breaking up next season Larsen. Isa Getting back together. I don't think I just go ahead and say I don't think it's going to be one episode. I think canola going to be around for a segment I like. I'm like this to me like a lie. This is not the thing that breaks them up and immediately he's back with ISA. I don't think that's going to happen. Because what is too much before her. Event and event still look like is going to happen or whatever like some some about this like they probably going to drag this out a little bit more. I think I don't think chatting Leah are still seeing each other. We never shut her face. Oh my God. If that's the twist that actually will be hilarious. Is Chad just been lied about being earlier? This term that that actually would be fucking funny. I hope that now now now kind of hope. It is a tourist. You might convince me. The funniest gagging is revealed. That Leah Chad Shit. The whole time How a Turner? Isa's building her. Kelly thanksgiving with crown royal so own brand Kelly training need hang out. Make a podcast together review reality. Tv shows may happen. Last week was a weird. They didn't show US Malia. Andrew Texan on a major food holiday. Here smart it was a little weird. I guess I didn't. I didn't feel like they made a point of it on the show but I don't know Goes with your your you say. You don't think it was weird. No I mean 'cause I think again we've we've we've kind of seen that their major part of the show true Amati says does this count as a recap show whole. What if what? If I'm Andrew Fields away about not getting to go to Thanksgiving that'll be a nice twist like a went from. Oh look at Molly. She's pushing up on him too much. She's doing too much and then his Andrew Band like I want more. Would everybody would everybody then right there. Emails and apologize stores or anything. No I think no okay Find a way to make it molly salt next week the previous or next week. Kind of alluded to something like that wishes gotta act like I said before learn to balance work and and her relationship anyways machines never had before I it's just interesting. That if if he wants more that shows that molly is not pushing up too much S. The problem which is what everyone keeps saying But we'll see a mighty says there's this kind of a recap show of y'all writing a damn scripts. I'm just I'M GONNA sit back and get this prophecy. Thank you finally learn how to listen to the show? Okay folly line. Lastly lastly was one more in an email trae says. Hey Ryan bossy first and foremost apologies for my assessment of Molly. I am probably a couple of other fans are so used to molly. React in a certain way to situations evolve eastern other characters that you Loki expected to continue that behavior but she hockey is proven me wrong and I love seeing how she handled their situation. Torian work situation and the situation with her father cheating although from next week preview scared for her. It looks like Andrew might be problematic and I hate that because I was rooting for the two. Your I'll just say this I think the previous Noah. They're doing this so I'm not. I'm only generally concern for molly is in generally concern for all the characters. I'm rooting for. But I don't feel like she's also passed a like fucking this up or Andrew is gonNA suddenly become a master so I'm GonNa just continue to have a positive outlook towards their Yeah you know what I I. I have to stop watching the show if if everybody just waiting regresses like if all of a sudden you know Molly's exactly the way she was the one. And she cheats on Angie with Tori. And you know what I'm saying like I was like now. Y'All just ninety nine cents. Why show all this back back backtrack? So I again. I think it's going to be about her growth and learning how to do all those things And that was harsh. What used to say demolished grocery store? I wonder if Easter has heard that kind of talk from Mali. So much past the impasse has low key taken on Moscow yourself because you guys have made a good point about how where. Isa didn't speak up for herself in the past that much Molly was the exact opposite and will probably speak up too much. I don't know yeah. I think that happens a lot relationships in general like friendships where it's like social media whenever you see a poster that says that comes off isn't vice whereas like you were never the one who needed help. It was what was that. Is that person talking about themselves? And they're trying to. Who needs to hear this to my life affirming that for themselves and I feel like that's what that's what molly do. Sometimes when they're giving advice and I feel like they've always done at a little bit. They're giving the vice that they should've taken or the advice that Yeah they they're giving me advice. Day didn't take in a lot of cases though. Yeah I think you know I think that could be a big part of it so Yeah I I feel like you're there on Lawrence Eastern condoling whole situation it was weird fair Lars. But it's hilarious. I lost is experiencing what he did. He dated at the dollar Yen Tasha. I'll never forget. Her mayor. Cakes live in the hall of fame. Now do want them. Isa and Lawrence to get back together. Just not right now. They would need to have a sit down where they talk. Everything out an lawrence probably is about to lose his job again. It'd be whooping back on that damn couch so no thank you. I don't want to release these in what you say Lawrence again. Talk IT OUT. Then come together. Thanks Riding Bossy. So you think so you think Lawrence is GonNa lose his job or you think is just literally the promotion thing because I don't think they WANNA retraite that job loss you know. I don't think he's GonNa lose his job. I think if I can just she wants to cause remember in the first scene he said that can go and make some WanNa step his name off. I think he's GonNa feel stagnant but I don't think he's GonNa. I don't think he's GonNa lose his job and I'll see that whole job thing. What going to be the problem at Condolence Party I'm glad I was wrong about that but But I was Kinda writing that they want a different things but Yeah I don't I I said I love this show. I'd like to show. I love last Yesterday's episode but I will. I think I'd have to be done if everybody just kind of ends up the same way that were season one. I I like this is worth when doing here. Like why are we here? Yeah and also yeah. I don't WanNa see them do the thing where they regress everybody for just for more content like I kind of want them I. It's a TV show. They're going to have problems there. Show about relationships. They're going to have romantic problems. Even if somehow easing lars get together. They'RE GONNA have. They're going to have problems. Because that's the fucking there's no show if everything is just boring and and everything works out and everyone's super healthy oxo. I kind of get into you. Need the drama but yeah. I don't want to repeat drama. I want new drama. I agree and I think I think that again. You know I mean I'm I'm all into like interviews in an cast conversations and stuff like that and all the stuff that I've seen and read since I think blocking but definitely this season. Isa will walk away from the right. You know what I mean like. She's not she's she's done what she came to do. She loves she did her show. She could very well move on. I don't think she would sit there. And let the show go on for ten Caesar's on some rocks and Rachel friends back and forth. I think that she would be like all right. Well doing good bye like I. Don't I am confident in thinking that it's all going to be moving forward? It wouldn't mean to be regretted and allow to one. I might say next year's out next to the last F I think that I think also the corona virus I could see shows starting to wrap it up because who knows where to get the film again. You know like when we're going to be able to have enough people on said that are tested and healthy and not be risking. Everyone's life so I could also see show starting to be like maybe we should start planning in game as opposed to thinking we're GonNa do this forever The thing I was GonNa say though is It could be like Atlanta where the actors are starting to blow up and get more opportunities already shown slowing down to schedule as is so. It could be like that. We're just through natural like okay other people getting opportunities. It's time to move on. You know. Jay Ellison the new top gun Liza's in every movie you not I mean. I think I've seen that. Do play nate in other places too. So maybe maybe that'll happen. I don't know All right so let's get back to the last one Hey Rod and by the way this one Okay we got one more email. That's what it was looking my check my email one second all right so this is from our girl Kim Duk. Hey bossy ride not too much to say says this episode so bomb it went by. It's snap of a finger. Goodness it was definitely more valuable to see. Easter have a good Thanksgiving where a brother than the watch round five of molly versus Isa. Yeah I will say this. I am getting tired of watching negative fight. Oh my God. Yeah maybe it's just my second hand embarrassment I don't know but they'll negatives are like every scene now is just like oh no. I can't take it is cray. Yes it's very and not awkward. Funny way either is dark in me. Regina Hall underwrite equality to work and Dole is giving any scenes. The actress is really putting in Great Work Aquafina These planets straight woman is easy for us one. The everyone on this show kind of has a lot of humor In in the script in Alizadeh given can dollah is a person. Don't really write that way. And so you have to kind of play the straight woman in the scene without a funny we have to be the dope. Almost you had to be The person that is no no. Don't go and yes. She is doing a good job of what she's got That's all I got. They really took the highest to fret flesh to complexity out. Yeah I think you know what else. We're feeling that the weight of the extra two episodes they got like. They're not rushing as hard as they were before light. Yeah lead nothing. Live in Awkward Gray area moments a little bit more than they did. The first two three seasons. Stay healthy and safe Camden. Ps We all knew that single. It's been like a Geyser de we young when this mega shoutout shirt and then when he fixed the seeing quote unquote looking at a plumbing for players or whatever the fuck that shit was I say this I know this gag thing breaking like like I watched enough sitcoms. Okay this is when when me about have you ever watch. Tv show before like this is classic classic TV show moment So bossy what are you looking forward to next week? WanNa see the What comes out of be direct message exchange. I feel like they have like a direct message relationship for a while where they're just only like talking to each other through the DMZ nothing weird reject like communicate in that way And that I wanna see how I feel. I could go is going to be. The one who tells Isa and Lawrence aren't each other I don't know but I just want to see how what what what comes next. How they how they? I'm looking forward to whatever's going on android molly that has now taken over a huge part of my interest in his show in a way that I really haven't been as interested in Mali's character before like before this I've always I think every other relationships situation molly has always been so like fraught with like I don't know they just put her in so many situations whereas like obviously this is not going to work as so. We're going to be in a situation where I feel like it can work and she wanted to work is like the sweet spot and I'm so interested in whatever she's going have going on and because they brought up work I wonder if we'll get some things her with the work people again because angels like between working while not getting to see you so I wonder if that means. We'll see whatever's happened with that and then with Isa and Larsen Canola. I wonder if we going to get like an emotional affair type situation. Yeah yes because I feel like one Well you never know the Shah's GonNa say a sexual affair would be too much but I don't actually know that like I could see them doing a thing where Lawrence get together before he's officially broken. Over dollar in the time line will be in shambles like but anyway not next week. I just eventually but We all like to see like what that happen. What happens with that and yet how much of her business does he tell. Canola tell easer car alarms. I have a problem because it's like Oh my God and the also thing. I'm wondering too what happens. If can dollah like cuarto catches them as opposed to. There's some type of light break up moment or some smooth diaper. This isn't working now and it's like I caught this Nigga he'd been you know sending a bunch of two x and the x is the person who I'm working on this project with like. What does that mean does easily? I had to put on the fucking event by herself with no planner win. You know this is all a flashback. When does she find out? Does that give a chance? Molly just show up L. Lawrence hell of. Oh good second a good little want there. Yeah that is. That's I could see that happening. Where the people who are on her in her corner from the beginning show up for her And help her because like polly wasn't trying to help her before. She was like a little sage. Go I can see that I do think that can dollah. I think the fact that they kept emphasizing that they were talking about more into each other is something. That's GONNA come up in a way. That's not as cute. It's just mayonnaise on fries. 'cause THE LOOK CONDOLENCE. GonNa bring it up because looking at it from condolence perspective. What if you know her and Lawrence Start? Having issues she tells Isa also friend friendship like she really shouldn't have and then she finds out eastern Lawrence takes whatever the fuck it will feel like the sette right like I told you we supposed to be cool and friends uses information. Try to Holly Lawrence. You know I don't watch him of his talking or I I. I'm not going to work on your vin anymore. Did also that also proves molly right Mike a whole lot of. Shaka come crashing down. Because that I'd again. Why are you so plastic? Casual from you can. Doa like what what is it. Would you all at one Mike like is it like are you? I? I don't know be mad fishes canola. I'll be honest. Maybe like side. I her real Hughes's thing what well. Let's be honest our agenda. We kind of been waiting for a reason. I'M NOT GONNA I I I've been. She could have just like forgot. She got a parking ticket this week and our Black Sea Bossy. We was right. She was always fraudulent. So I'm going to be up front about that but the other thing I wanted to say though and the reason I liked the show so much is that when they characters like canola I feel like in another world where we follow can dollas life before seasons. I can. I would understand her. Motivation is more like I feel like they don't write these character. That are just one-sided there's always like a thing to weather that way right so maybe condolence divorce had some issues with trust and lies and Or miscommunication they mixed signals or whatever and in her subsequent like chassis of a year and a half had his own issues in her subsequent. I'M GONNA put my foot in the dating pool with Lawrence. Has its own issues and these are now her issues from her owed shit. You know like I could see a world where that's all true. And we have more empathy for her. Because we've seen her life but we haven't so ear easier for me with all the new characters it'd be right to be like all right. Well that didn't work out back to Lars Isa. Yeah there hasn't been any terrorist. They're outside the main. Even some of the main ones like tiffany. Eric like if I never see them again. I'm like all right right For the most part there's never been any introductory characters aside from Nathan and only because I wanted to know more about that but if nation doesn't show up the season I'm not going to be hurt. It's not gonNA hurt the show right They do a really good job of making sure on making sure that they write the cares. You care about in ways that make sense and it's just the audience it Kinda shows up all this shit and like get out the show. We shouldn't be there anymore. And you know all these different stuff. But that's only at like even dro- who was there for like a season but he's gone kit throw low key same thing with Daniel us back to see him no right like so they go but also they typically don't let those characters go into they exploded live somewhat. You know so we kind of get to see like. Oh this deal's upbringing. This is Oh Daniel in the studio when he's not be like we see Daniel like we had like Daniel Shit together in a way that more and doesn't and he's about his business and doing this and then we see them in the studio and he's Kinda simple away right. That's right you're right so I'm wondering can Dollah 'cause I feel I if they I feel like it's kind of a waste to just throw her away easily like no one cares about this. I might I kinda now. I am curious as to what the fuck that was about like because because if not You know almost some shady about another creative and I'm not gonNA do that guys. I'm not GonNa do that because I'm a good person you can. You know I will take you you you already know. I DIDN'T I. Just don't want this soap opera dramatic turn of them. I was able to hold time. I don't want that and I'm not watching that our. Hr that's it for this episode of this too much. We talked a long time and we had a good time At least I had a good time but he kind of invited herself but it was still the best. It's better that she was gave. I had a great time doing this. Tell me what you like. We have to record Monday. That's not a lot of warning for the listeners. But Fuck it. Let's do it. I'm like it's mostly going to be saying we're right so like that can happen any day of the week. We don't need to let digitally so thank you so much guys. Thank you bye. And we'll talk to you guys later until then peaks.

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Birds of Prey, Stunts, Netflix, Game of Thrones, Bad Boys 3, Stranger Things & Top Gun 2

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Birds of Prey, Stunts, Netflix, Game of Thrones, Bad Boys 3, Stranger Things & Top Gun 2

"Hello everyone. And welcome to lash daily for Thursday, November first two thousand eighteen today's episode. We're in talk about the latest film and TV news is slash editor in chief Peter Surata mantis podcast is slash senior writer than Pearson. Hey, what's going on and writer and wannabe everyone? It is officially November. We have gotten past a Ocober. We we have unlocked the new achievement and Christmas season everyone. Yeah. I already had my Christmas. Tree up freezes. I won't discuss here. Oh my gosh. Actually. No, okay. From last year. No, I ordered. I do notoriously keep my Christmas tree up much longer than I should. But I ordered a new, you know, I have to fake tree instead of buying a tree every year because I think that's wasteful. No, no judgment to anybody. Who does that? But we bought a new one a bigger one in when it arrived came in a package, those it's much bigger than I expected. So it was like, you know, we get a set this up and see if a fits in her place, and it didn't it was like, you know, we're not gonna take this down. We'll just leave it up. So. Yeah. So I I still get decorate the tree, but wouldn't you guys start putting up the Christmas season, ornaments and stuff like that? I think the beginning of December maybe the first week of December or something? I think I my wife is not in the room at the moment. So she would have to check me on that. But I feel like I have a pretty. Memory. But I think that's that's about when we do it. What about you is? She needs. Mmediately after thanksgiving because I have to you know, let thanksgiving half it's time to shine. I think it's underrated holiday, but at the same time, I'm very excited about Christmas. I love decorating for it. And I tried to get the the decorations up pretty quickly. See I'm on the Disneyland. Schedule aware like once hall wing happens. The take down the hallway in decorations, and then it is now holiday time until the end of December. So I want I wanted to play as long as possible. I usually don't even take my tree down until back from Sundance. So it is a whole what does that like three months or something? Insane. Okay. People do not pull up this podcast. Listen to us talk a boat, Christmas or whatever police say. Two. Let's get into the news. Let's start off with a bit of breaking news. It just hit that you McGregor is going to play the Batman villain black mask. But not in the new Batman movie itchy tell us about it. So birds of prey has cast its big bad. Birds of prey has Gregor is in talks with the birds of prey production to play black mask who is commonly known as a Batman villain as the villain in birds of prey which is being directed by Cathy. An and we'll start Mago Robbie Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Rosie Perez and drew nape smollet bell. So he is in talks to play black mass, a Gotham mob boss and a frequent Batman foe who is known for being very brutal mob boss who enjoys torture and wearing creepy that titular bath black mass at sometimes have power of hypnosis. It's a lesser known that man villain who came about background like nine hundred eighty five and is has not really had a lot of time on the screen. He appeared in the Batman animated film, Batman under the red hood, but mostly is has been relegated to the video game domain. So does this does this bit of casting make you at all more excited for this film? Well, I love you. And I'm very excited to see him play a villain. He doesn't often do that. He kind of did in affects the FX series Fargo. But this would be the first time, I think I don't want to say that like confidently because I'm not quite sure, but this will be the first year playing a villain in a blockbuster film. At least I can say that. So I'm and just see him stretch his acting chops in that regard black mask is villain that I'm not really interested. I've always kind of seen him as. Like the gritty eighties updates who penguin. He's kind of the same vein except the mob boss rather than just the wealthy corrupt businessman. So I'm not quite interested in the villain. But this is not a Batman film. It's with birds of prey and it's possible. They could revamp black mask to make more interesting in a more. Sinister fo- for the female lead team. It's kind of similar to what they did with this is a marvel show. But with the with kill grave who is a like delist daredevil villain and became Jessica Jones most the best daddy. So it's possible that they could do that with black mask here. It probably shows us that Matt Reeves it's not planning to use black mask and his Batman movie. And I know I can't think of a unit Greg big villain role. But I'm sure there is one out there. We're going to get an Email or tweet like we did yesterday. Each t you said that a tech titan was a mecca anime. Yes, I apologized for that. That was my mistake. I've to be fair. This is when I first was when I heard of attack on titan people calling it like the successor to neon. Genesis have been Jillian which is one of the greatest enemies of all time. So I stopped at that. But also somehow got it in my head that they were similar in that being a mecca anime and attack on titan is not a mecca anime. There are no giant robots? They do fight giant monsters. But not with robots robots. Okay. Let's about next story in this involves stunt performers. Apparently with all the streaming contact going out there. It is getting worse for Hollywood's performance Ben tells, but yes, so almost a year ago, we wrote about how a costs for producing TV shows and content in general have skyrocketed in the peak TV era because show runners and production crews are often thrown into higher position. That they may not have been ready for because you know, if they're only four hundred experience show runners in town, for example, and there are over five hundred scripted shows on the air. That's a bunch of extra show runners that that people are going to have to step up into this position. So we're inexperienced show owners might go over budget and cost network some money inexperienced stunt coordinators. That's a whole different thing. Because people can and have died on film sets at a more alarming rate recently than in years prior. So the Hollywood reporter has this really good breakdown of a bunch of interviews with people in the stunt community talking about two key stunt performers who have died recently on sets. We wrote about both of these when they happen. I think we've probably talked about a couple of them when they happened on the at least one of them when they haven't on an earlier episode of the podcast, but somebody died on the set of the Walking Dead AMC show and a motorcycle rider named joy Harris died on the set of deadpool two during her. I stunt. Basically, the entire piece just sort of takes a step back and looks at the industry is a whole and points to like, you said Peter the rise of these all of the content that needs to be created for all these different platforms and just is trying to assess what can be done to help make the stunt people. Give them a safer working environment. Because a lot of these productions out there are trying to cut corners and just try to get things done as quickly as they can without necessarily having doing the due diligence of having the most experienced people possible onset to sort of protect people. So that's that's the gist of what's going on have you ever been onset? When a big lake stunt was being filmed. I'm trying to think. I can tell you. I was on the set of the first transformers movie with Mark Wahlberg. What does that the last night? I don't know age of extinction yet not one, and they they were filming huge stunts with pyrotechnics and stuff and even at the rate in speed that Michael bay likes to film things. It was amazing to watch like the safety. You know, the meetings that they have how they cleared the set. And you know, even us presence that we had to like get to a, you know, a far back range where like even you know, debris couldn't even get to us. Oh, yeah. But you know, that's big huge budget film. You're you're talking about the smaller stuff. Yeah. And like the sag after the the guild that represents actors and stunt coordinators has announced that they're going to try to put some sort of like a a standardized. Guideline out there as an online registry of going to go online in twenty twenty. But as a couple of the people in the Hollywood reporter piece say that's just a guideline. That's not gonna actually stop producers from hiring people who don't meet those standards. It's not necessarily like a a hard line enforced thing that the industry is going to do. So I don't know it's a question without an answer right now. And you know, you've got a number of fatalities onset sort of on the rise since twenty fifteen or so and with apple and Disney getting into the streaming service game pretty soon. I mean, it seems like things might get worse before they get better. Yes. Especially with all that competition speaking competition net flicks. We've been talking about how they have some films that are going to be contending for some awards the season and to promote those to actually make them, you know, qualify there. Are planning on releasing them in theaters? And we we kind of those kind of all we knew it until now. Now, we have the details issue tell us, but yeah, so net flicks has been kind of notorious for being uncompromising their day and date the ethical online release, which means they would release their additional films in theaters and on the streaming service at the same time this kind of became a point of contention when they, but it has the canned film festival, which got them banned from that festival. But now, it seems the hype around especially their upcoming film. Roma is starting to get them to change their minds about this stance. So Netflix has announced that they will be releasing Roma. The ballot of BUSTER Scruggs and bird box several weeks before all three films streaming debuts. This is a big move for Netflix because they were so Severn about those rules before Roma in particular. We'll have the longest before streaming release in. Theaters. It'll be really three weeks before the online release. Whereas Balata BUSTER Scruggs and bird box will have a one week the release before they their debuts on Netflix. Do we have any idea why they budged because we've heard, you know, the head of net flicks time and time again say that this was never gonna happen. So I'm just shocked. I really think that it's the hype around real now, which a lot of critics is kind of putting neck and neck with stars worn as the front runner at the Oscars this year, and a lot of the reason that net thanks has become such a disruptive influence in the industry is that with like theater chains and with film festivals. Is that they refused to renege on their day and date release rules, but now with Roma being in serious contention. Maybe Netflix is kinda conceding a little bit. They've haven't had a one of their original films be nominated for best picture yet. They had a few nominations for my down. Last year. But maybe there's just trying to kind of do. Yeah. Woo. The industry a little bit to try to get their best picture nod. I wonder if if this is a concession to get those screens actually screen movie. Like, I know a lot of theaters think that like if they put a film, Dane date in theaters. No one's gonna go. No one's gonna buy ticket to the movie theater and show up to see it when they could just be watching it on their net flicks at home, but it'll be curious to see if they do more of this would Ben would you be interested in seeing that flicks original movies in the theater, I think so I think there, especially you know, you've got you've got so many distractions at home, right? And the idea of watching something like Romo, for example. I think. I don't know. A it's that movie is an especially interesting case study here because it's a movie that is in black and white, and it's in a foreign language, and it's got subtitles. And you know, most people would probably not pay to see something like that in theaters. But theoretically, a lot more people will be able to see it on Netflix. But then at the same time you have to contend with all the distractions that come with watching a movie at home. So I know it's it's a tough one. But yeah, I think in general I would love to see Netflix do stuff like this all the time. I think actually really hit it on the head there. I think it's all about the competition. I think especially they're feeling it considering that Amazon already has an Oscar win under their belt for best original screenplay for Manchester by the sea. I feel like Netflix is just like all right? We have disrupted the industry. But now we've got to be a major player in the awards game. And I feel like that's the the real motivation behind this move. It's funny to disrupt the industry more. They gotta go to. To play the by the rules within for me. But speaking of something that is is made for the small screen that could have been on the big screen. We've learned that the original plan for game of thrones was to end the series with a movie trilogy. Then would we knew? Yeah. So Entertainment Weekly has a big cover story about a game of thrones season eight which is the final season is coming up next year. And we still don't know too much about it. But we do know that as you mentioned they were originally planning David Benny off and db Weiss the show runners were originally planning on ending the series with a three movie trilogy and feeders. So I'll read you a quick excerpt here the final season could be six hours long and released his three movies in theaters just like Georgia. Martin's best known influence the Lord of the rings is not that the dual wanted to make movies per se. But it seemed like the only way to get the time and money needed to pull off their finale. It's what. We were working towards a perfect worldwide said we ended up with an epic fantasy story, but with the level of familiarity and investment in the characters that are normally impossible in a two hour movie. So that was their original plan, but HBO stepped in. And basically just said, hey, we're we're we're making TV over here. We're not exactly making a bunch of movies. So we'll give you the resources that you need to tell the story that you wanna tell on a tent pole size scaled. But just on TV instead of in theaters. And that way it keeps a game of thrones. As a television show, it doesn't like split things up and direct people who are already paying for a subscription to HBO to go pay for individual movie tickets and all of that kind of stuff, and it just wraps things up with a neat bow. And I mean, I just think back to what they did with entourage with the entourage movie. Sort of wrapping up that story how what a year a couple years after entrees went off the air. And that was just like that was so bad. And it made no sense to me that that the no one would want to you know, point people in another direction like that. But yeah, I'm glad that they made this decision to sort of keep game of thrones all contained on the small screen. The game of thrones craters were like fine. We'll just go make a Star Wars trilogy. Instead. Yeah. Yeah. Did we learn any more from this W cover story, usually there's a bunch of beds? Right. Yeah. There's a couple little pieces quotes from kit Harrington mealy Clark one thing that I found kind of interesting was a quote from Brian cognitive who was an assistant to Benny often Weiss before becoming a writer on the show and eventually moving his way all the way up to co executive producer. He said that the final season is all about all these disparate characters coming together to face a common enemy dealing with their own past and defining the person that they want to be in the face of certain death. It's an incredibly emotional haunting bittersweet final season. I think it honors very much what George Martin set out to do which is flipping this kind of story on its head. And that that quote that last part about flipping the kind of story on its head is what really interests me because I feel for the last couple seasons of game of thrones. It's been a locked in this much more traditional form of storytelling and not really getting back to the roots of what it did in the very beginning, which was constantly subvert people's expectations. And and flip things on its head all the time. Do unexpected stuff all the time. So it sounds like maybe that's kind of what they're trying to get back to in the final season. So I'm I'm very interested to see what that translates into. I know we've had these death pools for Infinity war before Infinity working out. I feel like the big death pool is going to be for this final season of game of thrones. Like, how many people do you think are actually going to make it out alive? I would not be surprised if only like three three of the main characters survived the whole thing. If you're the put your bet on one of them who would it be? I would say that aria is going to live, and she's going to she's going to do something horrible and be like her curse is going to be that she survived this whole thing. That's my by. I feel like we've been talking about bad boys three for five six years. Now, they've had a tough time trying to get this on the tracks. But now, it seems like it's happening and Martin Lawrence's confirmed P is back for this one h c tell us about it. Yeah. So the long just stating bad boys three last month received the green light from Sony and while we'll Smith was on board. It was a big question. Mark brown. Martin Lawrence who has kind of remained the lone holdout for this franchise. But today in an Instagram post heave confirmed that he is a bad boy for life and is returning for that, boys. Three aka bad boys for life. So and you were right Peter it has been a long time. And it's actually been ten years since you've been talking about that two thousand eight was when Michael bay considered helming the third entry of the franchise, and it's just been a revolving door since then. Slash it's been around now for thirteen years, which is a longtime, and we're getting to the point that there are franchises that we wrote about in the first year or two slash film. That are finally getting made. That's it say it insane journey. I just wonder like what else did Martin Lawrence have going for him? They why what is the schedule. Like, he's like, oh, no. I don't want to do bad boys. Three because I don't see you know, a ton of Martin Lawrence films coming up. I can't answer that I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Are you excited for a new bad boys movie? Not particularly I wasn't a huge fan. I've only seen the first one. I think it was a long time ago. So I'm not like huge fan of franchise. But I'm sure many people are saying. I like the second one better than the first one, even though it kind of devolves into something that doesn't make much sense. Ben are you a fan of this franchise? I've seen both movies. I really enjoyed the second one in the theaters when I saw it. But I haven't really thought about it since then I'm not sure how well it would hold up in you know, under modern scrutiny. But I don't know. I I mean, I am always a big fan of Will Smith in a crowd-pleasing summer blockbuster. So I'm I anything that will get him back to that position who whether or not that means it Martin Lawrence involved or not I'm I'm all for. I'm all for a buddy comedy when you know, those two have chemistry that they have. But out what the see how this one turns out. Let's move on to another announcement from that flake. And that is that they have announced stranger things day. I thought here Ben is. What the heck is stranger things day. What does that even mean so stranger things day is November six it's going to be celebrated on November six presumably every year moving forward. And the reason for that is because on November sixth nineteen Eighty-three that was the day. That will buyers went missing in the first season of stranger things. So it's basically just the new may the fourth be with you Star Wars day or Batman day or alien day, or whatever stranger things is. You know, Netflix is disrupting everything, including the very concept of our own calendars now, Peter, so they're they're trying to to plant a flag in the ground on November six for stranger things day, and what what is actually going to happen on that day. Well, bloody disgusting says that the stranger things themed haunted house at universal Orlando at the Halloween Hornets. There is going to be reopened to the public. Just during the day for that day only for people to explore and celebrate stranger things in that. Way. I speculate in the piece that maybe they could release the first teaser trailer for the third season of the show because six months ago was when they put out a video saying that they were in production on season three, and we haven't really seen any big updates or anything since then. So that would be a good time to to start teasing people. I think first season two they released a video that just had episode titles. So I feel like they have to do something like that at least to sort of quote, unquote. Celebrate this first stranger things day has to be more than just a theme park thing of I was at the bookstore the other day, and I came across this book called stranger things world's turned upside down in. It's a making of I think the first two seasons in it's a really cool book. I was actually almost going to buy it. I did because who needs more books, but. This book is like it comes in like it is it is presented almost as if it's like a used book from like the seventies. Like, I like the the dust jackets all kind of ripping torn and there's like a price sticker on it. That's like, you know, been marked down in like when you foot third. It's actually kind of a cool book inside like there was like a couple of pages of just like what the duffer brothers used as influence for the movies and from the movie world, and it was a couple of like, you know, here's like Stephen King influences. I dunno. I think the franchise would would kind of dig this book. Stranger things world's turned upside down. But yeah, I mean, it's definitely like one of those. And it's one of those things as like, you know, pull out things in it. Like there was like a map of Hawking's in there. Actually, there was even like on the back of the dustjacket. If you take the dust jacket off of the book, it's as if one of the kids from stranger things was doodling on the back of the those check it was very detailed. Very cool. I think it would be a cool Christmas gift for if you have a stranger things fan in your family or friends. But yeah, anyways, flicks can send a copy to all of us for that free. Plug. Yeah. That was not in that. I do not own this book, I would just sticking yet. And I thought it was kind of cool. But anyway, let's move on to our final story that is top gun to would is going to which is going to reunite Tom Cruise with Christopher mcquarry itchy. What do we know? Yes. The Christopher McSherry after he directed, Tom. Cruise to critical and commercial success in the summer edition of possible fallout is reuniting with him again to rewrite the top gun to script. So the script is had been penned by Peter Craig just in marks and Eric Warren singer is essentially already completed but Macquarie's and brought in by cruise for a few rewrite s-, which is something that he's done before for films like edge of tomorrow. And I think that was the only one mission impossible rogue nation. I think or I'm sorry. Not rogue nation the one does that goes protocol. You gotta call. Yeah. And the mummy as well. This'll make it MacQuarie and cruises tenth collaboration together. They've worked I worked together in Valkyrie and McCray has become cruises. Go screen screenwriter for a lot of films. I mean, it's just seems kind of like a polish, right? Yeah. So it's just the polish for few revitalize and sources told empire, which is which. Conducted this interview with crews and MacQuarie that the script has already been mostly completed. Does it excite you that he's going to be retaining with Christopher Corey? Yeah. I like that all their team together. Mission impossible rogue nation mission possible fall or both greats and edge of tomorrow. Of course is one of my favorite scifi films of this past decade. So I think that they are a match made in heaven. It makes sense that I'm cruises bringing back Macquarie's for this. 'cause he likes to work with people. He's worked with before. I just don't know who's excited for top gun to like, I have a friend that loves topgun one. But I don't run into many people. And then actually this holiday this Halloween season at various parties in day went to this. You know, the we ho ho in carnival there are so many people dressed as a Tom Cruise from top gun one. And I find that weird. Like, I is that movie still in the like pop. Culture like in a big way. I think it's a classic. I don't know. I I'm not sure like where it falls on the millennial scale of of awareness, but I know for all of my friend. H T is felt a cited here. I mean, I think that people are definitely wear of it through pop culture osmosis, as they are through a lot of like of a lot of Tom Cruise classic movies before I washed, I knew of the conic scene where he goes, I feel the need the need for speed and high fives goose, so that's the scene that's gone down in history. And I think a lot of people will dress up as like top top quiz and top gun without really having seen the movie or knowing the movie. Well, just 'cause it's fairly easy and recognizable costume, it seems like they're trying to recapture some of that magic. Like, the original movie used like mostly practical footage from those fighter planes in the I know production on this kind of shut down for a little bit as the actors actually had to go through some extensive training. So they could actually film a lot of this a lot of the stunts in this movie. Actually, you know up in the air, you know, not in front of a green screen, feel crews would have a no other way, right? I mean, that's his that seems to be his like one of the parts of his legacy. Right. Like if you think of Tom Cruise, you think about? Practical effects now, which is kind of obeys. He almost killed himself for sure, okay. That brings us to the end days daily HD working. We find more your work on line. Writing every day at slash from dot com. And I'm on Twitter H TRAN Buli, Ben where can we find you? I am also it slash home dot com, and you can find me on Twitter at Ben pairs. You can find me at slash home on also some media, you can find all the stories. We've talked about today on Sasha media calm in winked in the show notes this podcast slash on daily is posted every weekday and I tune school play overcast Spotify all the popular podcast apps. If you have a question comment, concern, some feedbacks and the to us a Peter Marshall dot com. I know we haven't got mail bag in a while. 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GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 149: SAG-gy Gentlemen

GSMC Movie Podcast

48:34 min | 6 months ago

GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 149: SAG-gy Gentlemen

"Can't decide and torn between a romantic comedy action or an Indie film to watch for the weekend. Well well golden state media concepts move. New podcast is your ultimate guide to the latest movies. Join us as we dissect. The latest on the blockbusters. It's the golden state media concept's subs- movie podcast they Yup guys and welcome to. GSM see movie podcast brought not by the GSM see podcasts. And that worked brought to you by. Oh yeah brought to you by sorry we just we're getting really Meta with our intro today By Meta matter I mean overly self aware which is why as Cynthia if she was going to do the intro or I should do the intro My Name's Keith. My Name's Cynthia by the way and he is alive so I missed the music the movie in trump music. When I heard I was like Oh back yeah we missed you? I know I don't know if you heard last week's episode by was like you guys like it's all take a moment. A moment of silence for Keith. No I didn't I know to listen into this horrible co host. It's fine I mean you were. You had a fever but more than a fever I had like now. I felt like I was dying. Oh my God it was pretty pretty awful but we did take a moment of silence for you so sweet. I don't even know what to say. Thank you thanks. Everybody for taking that moment of silence for you're welcome. You're welcome We're back here another week. We have a lot to talk about today Especially because I actually did hit the theaters. There's over the weekend I now because I mean we normally do I know but I I think I I mentioned this. In the previous episode. Bad Boys Voice for life came out last Friday with will Smith and Martin Lawrence have you seen like promotes. Boys Spelled Z.. The number four in life with a why right absolutely not. Oh what are you doing what do you mean it should be spelt. Bad boys like four life. I know that this is the type of humor that everyone was missing out on last week. You know look. I don't think we missed it now. I'm kidding but you how you have seen the PROMOS and all a little bit. Bright previews totes McGaw oats. How it's my goats? What does that mean? You're totally okay. Overall I went what day was never visit testimony goats. I didn't I never totally toast my goats. Neither wow negative. What about that floats my goat? Where are you getting these phrases is from? I've never heard of the cube right now. You've got to be going with me. Oh my God. Here's a joking is we've definitely Miss Adad jokes didn't we. Didn't we know the last one. I just made up anyway. Well I'm trying to tell you bad boys for life. I finally went to the theaters and I walked it Monday. I watched Monday because we all had off and I'm upset because the theater. I went to Davis when I went to and yes and I did not like the theater because I've never been to a movie theater where you pay where you buy your food at the concession stand you also buy your ticket so right usually theaters. They have separate like go to the window. You buy your ticket then you walk in and then you buy your popcorn etc through the Gauntlet of the candy and popcorn. Smell Mellberg's so I went and I was mad confused. There were three along the Kama confused. I was both mad and confused Madison. Okay but were you also mad confused. Yes I was both I was mad and Co but there was three things mad and confused which is two things and and then you were in addition to mad and confused mad confused. I was like all three. Okay Yeah I'll all of the above verifying the Plethora of emotions that you're or experience that's exactly how I fell and like I was so annoyed because I was already kind of late to the movie. The movie started at twelve forty and and the and the after. I went early because I had to come and record another episode on Monday and I wasn't downtown Davis so parking his terrible anywhere any city. You live in downtown the worst spot so parking was terrible. We walk in three long lines the concession stand and I was confused on like where or do I buy my ticket and I was waiting in line like additional twenty minutes at the concession stand so by the time I got to the front it was already like one twenty so I I had missed like a probably like twenty twenty five minutes of the beginning of the movie which is fine. I mean I was able to catch up later on in the film but you sure I am. I didn't miss anything I feel like I share miss like probably intense movie. Yes like 'cause I was reading some reviews and people like the first ten minutes of bad boys. It was really intense so I am upset because what's funny. While I was at the Davis Theater my parents were at a different theater. And they watched it too And so they my dad's huge boys fan. He's watched the one that came out in nineteen ninety-five the one that came onto them three. And then now this one thousand yeah. That's the very last boy. That's why there was so much like hype hype around this phone because it's been like seventeen. Years is the last one came out and the dynamics Martin Lawrence and will Smith have is just super unique again like their brothers in real life like not actual blood brothers. They considered themselves brothers. You know but no highly records brothers like brothers. I guess I I don't know but I loved this film. Bad boys for live loved it loved. It loved it especially because of the cast and I want to quickly get into the cast. They did such an amazing job with the cast. So we have. Well Smith Martin Lawrence but NASA hudgens from high school musical. Gosh I had the biggest crush on her. When I was in high school I thought she was just like the Bee's knees slow? It's fine because I had a crush on Zaka Fron that age NYC high school musical days. Why have a crush on Zach? He's still he's beautiful. That's funny but no Salaam again to the castle them three we then we have. Dj Talat which was so funny. He was only in the movie I know he was literally in the movie for like two minutes but it was still really funny. Can we talk about something real quick yet. Little aside here how is it that. Dj Calendar is allowed to work in Hollywood at all he is a is maybe a little sensational Yeah I'm just not GonNa go that in my opinion. Dj Khallid don't hate us right now. Oh my God defense possessed. He's discriminatory discriminatory towards women. You realize that straight forward in interviews has said that he believes that women should treat men as if they are kings because women. They're not that because women are less than I need to see this. I've never seen so I would. We're PG PODCAST So I will tell oh you off air specifically regarding the subject matter that he was talking about. But you should now that the fact that it's been kept under wraps that Dj calot that is one of the most discriminatory individuals in the music. Industry is like a gross misappropriation of Social Justice Warrior. Ring because like they give you guys are going to be upset about anything. You should be upset about the fact that DJ calendars still makes money. In Hollywood I not the type of I know which is is crazy not the type of person to make these type of points. I normally think they're like stupid. And arbitrary but legitimately when you in an interview say that women should treat men like kings because women are less than men than I. Don't think that you should. I think that if people are GONNA get upset about jokes. Is that like James. Gunn made ten years ago. They should definitely be upset about the things that DJ calendar said about women but whatever. Hey you know what. I'm sure. He was crazy because this is the the first one I've ever heard of this. He works with a lot of women in the music industry and produce like beyond say like Turkey on say and so many more so that actually crazy a an offer ends. Who's got him off air? I definitely want you to show me. I play Silica. Just can't say what the the subject matter was specifically because it's definitely are rated. Yeah but anyway. Dj Calendars in it. He did a great job. WHO's Nicky Jam? Okay that's what I want to get into. Because there's a lot of Latino influence in this film because it's based in Miami and certain scenes in the movie were based in Mexico City and it's pretty much you've never seen any any of the bad boys films. Oh stop this is probably why. You're not as hyper because I like watch all of them. My Dad is a huge fan. So it's like I always saw those movies. I've seen the first to so many times so I was ever Zyppah about anything now because a bad boys for life life was gray and so power Nunez. Kate that Guy Steele and Nicky Jam. They're all like a list top celebrities actors musicians in the lucky no world like nicky jam. He makes great music like J Galvin is. He has a song with beyond say. No Oh okay I. I'm sure you've probably heard. Honestly don't know the name Nicky Jam. He's such a great music artists. Work with shelly peanut butter. Who Mickey Jam and Shelly Peanut Butter? Oh my gods doff with these young guys I was like what but no mega jam and I actually was really impressed with his acting. I know we touched on this on a few episodes ago like we don't know how how we don't know how we feel about like musicians stepping into the acting things zone unless your name is Justin Timberlake. Jt Jt know butt naked jam. I was excited to see him. He played one of the melons. And then let me give you a little little history. Because I know a lot of the Latino viewers who watched bad boys film like my parents were super hyped when he saw Bauer Nunez and gusty deal so them in their start in a lot of telenovelas and like the best telenovelas in Mexico and Kate. That Gusty Oh in this film and bad boy she is like a drug cartel Lord person but that's her role in multiple novellas like she's known for doing doing like drug movies drug novellas and she actually met L. Chapel like she's really about that life that was probably terrifying now. I know her her character in the in the movie was meeting Troppo. Oh yeah no there. There's a whole documentary on Netflix. There's multiple so i. I was really shocked to see that gus deal by was like pleasantly surprised because I am a fan of her acting like. She's one of the highest pay Telenovela Stars and same with Barlow Alanya. She was in a novella with Kate. That gusty also those two ladies have worked together and I was just like rarely impressed with the cast and I mean Dj now that you told me that it's like besides him but the rest. I was a fan and The court or not according. But I'm not the only one who also thought. Bad boys for life was an amazing film. I may just in their opening Box Office week over the four day day. MLK holiday weekend bad boys for life worldwide made one hundred and one million dollars and then somebody three million dollars in the US. And then that's beating doolittle doolittle ambassadors for life came out at the same time. It was ter link competition. What I'm little is like live the trailer for that movie I did? I talked to us. It looked like it looked terrible. In my opinion I don't think it looked terrible. I think kids would enjoy it but definitely out of bad boys for life and doolittle. I'm not surprised. Bad boys for life came first place and then they came in second in domestic stick sales. I'M GONNA go see I was trying to talk about. There is nothing. There's not a lot right now. Put Bad boys for live. They've been promoting that film since last summer. So I'm also not surprised that they're taking the number one spot for the four day weekend And amongst like domestic domestic records broken ever bad boys for life as the second best. emo Can opener Ever after American sniper so American sniper ended up with one hundred seven point two million dollars over their opening weekends but still very impressive Cooper For bad boys for life to come of men that are attractive away. We got a lot more talk about today's episode. Oh great love talking about good looking men. uh-huh okay well. That's my recommendation. Highly recommend by boys for life. Keith go watch it listeners. Go Watch it. We're GONNA cut into our first quick break break and when we come back we're going to talk about the SAG awards to know the latest cantatas music hitting the airwaves be left out. Listen to the golden state media concepts music. PODCAST G keeps you on the loop with everything from hip top floor and we'll throwing news of your hardest concert and tour dates and so much more. You're listening no further because this is the gold standard in music. PODCASTS Waiting until the last minute. Welcome back from commercial break. I'm just on fire with these dad jokes today are you. I am you're listening to the GMC movie podcast. Do I need to repeat it down like you've been gone for a week. It's like everything everything does over your head way. Do I mean they know they're listening to the should by now I know here are two wonderful voices and they're about to go on a diatribe. About how the IMF or how people seeing something in breaking box office records doesn't necessarily make something a good movie like Avatar broke every box office record ever and it sucked so avatar. Know why it's just like you're just like I'm reading the hate train. Today you choose taken off from the station. 'cause you're recovering from being sick. Maybe yes I have so much much time to next week. You'll be better mood. I'm in a great mood. I'm super happy I'm here. I'm doing a podcast. The Sun came out for like twenty minutes. That was great Yeah all right. Where are we really talking about? I don't even remember talking about cutting we're talking about S. A. G. Sag awards. It's what you do with your the genes. Oh my God. Are you keeping points of all these jokes at this point. Are you better shy. They show okay but at this year's twenty six annual so is abbreviated for screen actors. Guild awards guild. I guess I like right right. Okay I don't even know what a guild ill guild is but like usually people only use it for nerdy stuff like video games. I would have no. I don't play video games. I really actually know yes. Mario Kart talked about. Ram Parties. Mario Party to Marin Party anyways though wait Mario Party to or Mario Party in addition I don't know I just go over to my sister's house and it's all plugged in writing for me to play. Okay that's probably not Mario Party to that. It was on sixty four time. I think before my time my God sixty four look like I don't know I don't yeah I don't know anything about video game. I don't anyways. Saga awards took place at not last night. January nineteen gene at the shrine auditorium and expo and L. A.. which obviously it's like all these award shows as well as the most suitable place for all these award shows and I I honestly I watched a big chunk of the show through Youtube of course and I really liked how the saga awards words? focuses not necessarily just on the artists themselves are on the artists on the actors and actresses but they rarely view acting as a collaborative project as a collaborative Piece of our so. They're awards are not only specified towards like best male actor best female actor Etcetera Federa but they also like. I was surprised that they were giving out like stunts for certain like I actually liked The SOG awards compared to like the Golden Globes That we talked about in previous episodes. And I'm GonNa just quickly read their mission and their mission is posted on their website website and it goes the awards focus on both individual performances as well as a work of the entire assemble of drama series and comedy series. And the cast of a Motion Picture Ensemble Ensemble. Yes I said assemble on some level I understood you yes. These honours are fundamental until the spirit of the screen actors guild awards because they recognize. We'll all actors no. The acting is a collaborative art. And that's like what they stand for. That's cool and their mission. So yeah no I appreciate it. I was like oh well. It's not just some self serving award show for Hollywood bigwigs to get up and be like look how great I know cool and something something that I also like to. Is that the majority of the actors who were in attendance of the show. They all like rarely height each other up and they were like you know. We all grew up together. I mean there were barely any new generation actors in the room like majority of them. Were probably people. We grew up watching coaching on the Chino Robert Deniro. I did not grow up watching them. Oh well you know. I'm sure you've watched a couple movies with them starring in it. I actually don't know I know like meet the faulkners Robert Deniro. Rubber Deniro is in that language. I did not say Edward. Okay but I'm going to just Ben Stiller Right. He's the main Guy Gasman Stiller Jennifer Aniston. Brad Pitt. Who else there is so many actors in their Sofia Vergara The one who's in regard for right gotta go out. Yes so I liked like how they were rarely. They felt like viewer watching the awards show through youtube like there was a sense of community within them and they were really just like appreciative of each other's work and no I really enjoyed it but anyways I wanna get into some of the awards that were handed and this one is probably one of the most memorable awards because it made history so for outstanding performance by a cast in a motion picture of the whole uh-huh was awarded to parasite which I really would like to see. Yes me too. Parasite was directed by Bong Jun Ho and he was also nominated for best director at the Golden Globes for this film And parasite is a South Korean film and it just made history because it it became the first ever foreign language fell to take home a saga award for this specific category. So there has never been a Gordon. Yes a huge win for South Korea and I performed films in general. Yeah and I think also it's even more exciting about this. Specific specific award is that I feel that a lot of Asian communities and Asian American communities. I've talked about this but how they feel that they're underrepresented ended in Hollywood which is absolutely true. So it's really nice to see it kind of there being represented and they're being recognized for their work and and I actually saw a little bit of the trailer for parasite and I. I WANNA watch it. And there's a reason why they're getting so many nominations they have an Oscar nomination as well all so now. I'm I was very pleased with the outcome for that specific award and then for outstanding performance by female actor actor in a leading role was awarded to Renee Zellweger for her performance. In Judy she wanted the same thing at the Golden Globes. Have you seen that show with Richmond. Judy Yeah I have not have you know I really want to now I want. I know that was going through these. I like the recipients of these awards awards. I want to see a lot of these films. There's a reason why you know they're getting nominated. What did they do differently? What made them stand out so? I'm definitely intrigued to see my shooting. ZOG's pretty cool. She is she is. I haven't like we talked about how we haven't really seen her name pop up in awhile since the Golden Globes but she's is now being recognized and then of course. I'm not even surprised by this next recipient. I've been talking about this movie from. I know everybody everybody everybody I know. Even these awards shows and outstanding performance by male actor was given to walking Phoenix. For Joker Watson feelings. He he didn't he didn't seem as a joke. Ary At this award show. I don't know if you remember coming down from that. Like method acting in high. Yeah so this when he seemed a little bit more like when he was giving his acceptance speech he seemed a little more I quote Unquote Normal It wasn't so into that joker character On offstage so yeah again. I'm not even surprised by this. And and then for outstanding performance by a male actor in a supporting role was given to Brad Pitt for his role in once upon a time in Hollywood. which which I haven't seen have you seen that? I haven't seen this one either supposed to be really good. Well he winds Cohen Brothers Flick. Right maybe I I know Brad Pitt plays. He says that his character in that film. He's like this guy who like is just like I'm trying to keep this. PG High all the time and doesn't really do much with his live live Now I'm intrigued by this film as well. And he won and his exact same category at the Golden Globes so movie for the exact same movie once upon a time they now it does feel really self serving. It's just like Oh look how great we all are. We get to win the same award for the same thing in multiple places like I duNNo. It almost feels like you go on the award circuit for like advertising reasons not for like legitimate acting reasons or it's like they're actually just that good I don't know I will i. was there no other good movies. Well I know that's what I was thinking. I feel like As a whole with all the awards at the saga wards. They're they are definitely different from the Golden Globes and the Oscar nominations because the Oscar nominations and the Golden Globe nominations. They're pretty much almost identical and I feel like compared to those two. Saga wards is definitely a little more diversified. I guess if you don't pay so and you'll see like as I go through some of the other recipients like it's not all the same person from the previous award wine year we've got the next listed as performance by female actress supporting role for surge story. which didn't win any awards at the CONGLO? So yeah for fremaux actor in a drama series. I'll female actor. The drama series was Jennifer Aniston. She was not awarded anything at the Golden Globes. Two things about the morning show. She works with Steve Carell and And I'M A fan of Steve Carell grew. I know he is. He really is needed like pause. Here and talk about Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston real quick. So we're why because they were trending on twitter for outright after the award show ended and they were even trending on Yahoo Mail. Okay so I was like why Camille exists. I have young Yahu Cap Yahu for fantasy football in the last like y'all who is like the email email I have where I spend all of my like discount codes like my coupon codes. macy sends me stuff like Oh like all the sales and then my g malls like my work stuff. I serious national exactly. Yeah you're like who has how do you even like. WHO's the Yahu paid? Paid somebody to say that it was trending on Yahoo stopped and seriously. No there's no reason that we were training on twitter. Because I was reading everyone's tweets and they were trending and trendy so during Jennifer Aniston's acceptance speech. She won this award right after Brad Pitt. So obviously brought shit. He's he's backstage while Jennifer Aniston's giving her acceptance speech not stops and he's staring at the teleprompter or another telephone the television region backstage and he's gazing at her and there's videos all over social media and he just gazing like smiling man. Who looks at you the way? The Brad Pitt Looks Exit Jennifer Aniston. I know they were married right on. Mike let me just check Brad Pitt. And they were married. Oh my goodness Gore. Rice says is where have you been given a lie between two thousand and two thousand five. What were you doing not paying attention to this? I was eleven through fifteen years old. King she didn't listen now are like they're jaws dropped right now. 'cause approach why are they trending but it's because their accents are famous xs and let me give you some okay. Thought I had heard that they were famous. Yes Brad Pitt. And before Angelina Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston. We're married between those years and Brad Jelena. That wasn't married to. Yes but hold up hold up. Okay Telenovela Brad Pitt. On Jennifer Aniston with Angelina Jolie. Yes I am so emotionally invested and now they're divorced too but I can tell sarcasm but I'm just letting you know why people were so excited. I guess I'm like people were getting their hopes felt like Oh my God you guys. It's happening it's happening. They're going to get back together and like it was just like all these things like video I would. We want them to get back to. That's what I'm saying. No that's what I personally don't okay. I'm just here reporting okay. I'm just reporting why they went viral. You fix them enthusiast. Oh my gosh. The way. He looked at her the way he looked at her the way she looked at him a two because while she while he was giving his acceptance speech she was down at the audience and she was like almost wanted to cry honestly like her eyes are really watery three and then during backstage photos where she placed her hand in his Chaz means grabbing her hand and like they're very touchy feeling and like we haven't seen them like a very long time obviously because he's been married with Angelina all those years so they can't really show too much affection by that was one of the most like trending topics or if not the most trending topic big from this dog awards and so that's why I wanted to share with you. Wait you see. I am looking at the show notes. Brad Pitt Attends Jennifer Innocence Holiday Party every year and her fiftieth birthday. So that's eight definitely regrets it like I feel like Jennifer Aniston is girl for him where he's like damn like I let a good one girl I mean he did do her dirty so I personally like would not take him back beyond say cheat on the doctor Jay Jay Z.. Yes that makes me upset but you know H own. It's their relationship ends of these people's lives. This is why I just wanted to share with the English won an award okay so back to important things so for outstanding performance by a male actor during a drama series. Peter Anchorage on game of thrones. Overthrowing overthrowing Steve Carell what do you mean. Overthrowing Steve Carell has Steve Carell award like so many times know what they were they were nominated and then same category long joke I wrote I was gave a throng. Yeah I've never seen him a thriller so excited it's like the first two seasons are not that great the three through the season before the season before the last one so I don't know how many seasons there's been like seven ally how I feel people like three seasons that are amazing and all all the in my opinion three seasons that are amazing and the rest of them are pretty mediocre especially this last season but the acting been great and Peter Drink which has been the highlight of that series. So it's cool that he Ogden award. I think he also got nominated for this award. The Golden Globes. But he didn't win maker because I I saw his sprinkled around there. Yeah well I mean he's a great actor. He's he's in college he's Peter dinkiest. We're GONNA take a quick break right now and when we come back. We're going to wrap up the saga wards and then we'll share with the is another movie trailer. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts cats. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden in state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered from news sports music fashion looking entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop lurking around and go straight out to the golden state media concept concept podcast network guaranteed to build. That podcast is whatever it may be visit. WWW DOT JESUS MC Z podcast DOT COM. Follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and Google. Play the welcome back to the GMC movie podcast. I'm Keith Again Cynthia. In case you've forgotten yeah so before we left we were talking about about Peter. Drink Ledge how cool he is Brad Pitt and Jennifer anything yet. They were the trending topic topic. Trying to K Gotcha. So best stunts and emotion ocean picture and other notable award from the SAG awards went to Drum Roll and game another movie that was super great and then for now I cannot tell your sarcasm today is going on right now. Why did you drink so much? Heyday today Taylor. A ray of. That's the best joke of this entire podcast. Hater Aid Heydari. We should've named this episode Hater Aid Keys Hater. Eighty take on the train drinking hater aid. Haters GonNa hey now I just The plot was trivial and the good storytelling in my opinion mediocre and it relied way too heavily on like a bad storytelling mechanic manic that creates inconsistencies in the plot. But whatever you know that's just your opinion. It is just my opinion. It's my correct opinion. I have is my objective. Factual opinion actively and then for best stunts and comedy or drama series. DRUML again the data Take it away a key game. I love how you made me do. The Trim Line and work work work. Work work work. Yes that's a great joke. That's Rana Rehana. I know I'm so glad you know that song. I'm the very pleased right now. Keep down today. I really liked Alan another one so my little sister loves beyond say whenever I talk to her about beyond say I call her beyond K.. Always correct anybody who says her name. What's her name her? My sister's name is Haley but if anyone's talking about beyond say to Haley I'll say excuse me it's it's beyond K. and jazzy instead that if Jason. I think I'm hilarious sheets it so much I love it. It's great shutout Haley. She's in southern California. I don't know if she listens to this podcast I think she does. She said because you just mentioned her. Yeah I'll have to tell you that I specifically mentioned. I won't tell her one though she's a beyonce. Fan beyonce's Dante Fan get along. Well look it's not. That lemonade was a mediocre album. We're not here to discuss music. We're here here discuss movies. If you want to listen to music to indicate the mind the music podcast because that one is we go on it friendly way yeah. It's a friendly debate. I guess so. Oh but anyway. Game of thrones comedy or drama series. which is exciting? especially because I feel stunts. Don't ever really nominated for any awards or they should because they're really really hard to do. Absolutely yeah so. That's what I'm saying like I liked compared to the other awards shows movie award shows sog so far as like my favorite right and then I want to mention like the very lost Award that was given up the saga worked with is deemed as the most prestigious. And that's the lifetime achievement Stephen Ward and that's awarded to individuals who have made a lasting impact refill some actors who've received this award have been betty. Why Morgan Freeman Audrey Hepburn? Clint Eastwood Sweet. I was I I was. I was waiting for an avid. But I'm like a fan of all those the people maybe not so much Audrey Hepburn. Because I I don't really grow up watching her but the rashes incredible my fair lady. I haven't I always see her picture on like marshals framed. Not The only reason I know. She's the coolest but anyways so the winner for this year is lifetime achievement award was given to Robert Deniro. It's pronounced zero throw the needle. Whatever whatever okay? Denial Robert De Niro but again. I'm not surprised he's he's through all the films he's done. He's super versatile and he has a lot of memorable memorable roles like meet the Falker. Okay we walked the deer hunter Silver linings playbook young touchable And the list goes on so I. I'm not surprised. He was awarded this specific award. He looked super old at the SAG awards. Though like gentleman. I forget though because When I you see him on screen that's the you know image? I think of him all the time and then when he was on stage at the saga awards he had like a very long white beard. The white long hair I was like is this manny so little. He's definitely shrinking. He's probably my height now. Three like what do you expect. The I'd like don't want him to age. I wanted to do movies forever and ever and ever like all these actors never wish that on anybody that would be torturous existence instance. I know I know but you guys that's going to wrap up for the SAG awards talk and I want to move now into a movie trailer that we watch which is my gosh start us. Yes he's been in many many films. What did he do in? The joker joker he was as a talk. Fox show host more of a supporting role but he is featured But yeah he was there. I will wrong If you haven't seen joker I won't give away what happens. But he's dark tale truly versatility of this man. Yes that's insane. Like he's he's the guy he's pretty cool. Oh Yeah I mean. He's got a pretty substantial. He's been doing stuff since the seventies with a lasting impact the film. That's what the lifetime achievement award is. Wow Okay you're impressed. No Hater Eight. Are we oppressed. I mean award shows are Gonna I know I know you are not my favorite but I I just out of all the One's that we've seen this one. I enjoyed the most like they've got like a categories that we don't normally see some. That is exciting. So now we're GonNa talk about a movie trailer it which is Pretty Slim pickings for movie trailers. I was like looking through to find the only one on that. I really felt like it was worth talking about aside from. Sonic the HEDGEHOG which we've already talked out and magic mentioned again. I'm super here for Jim Carey and him. Being a super villain comes out soon does in February right. I think on Valentine's Day so perfect day. That is exactly what I'm doing on date. Night is making king. My Poor Girlfriend Watch video came movie with me about a character from the nineties that Jim Carey Man. I mean I love Jim Carey. uh-huh yeah so maybe she'll want to go see it. Quick Best Jim Carey movie. Your favorite Jim Carrey movie. Oh my God the one I forgot the name but the one the green mask. That's called the mask the mask. I'm like that one or the grinch like you did right. You can't really tell it's him the mass I feel like that's the very first Jim Carey my watch and like just fell in love with his performance. And he's very what's that expressive. His emotions faces says like he's super just goofy. He does a great job in that movie. Your right my favorite Jim. Carrey film is Yes Ma'am Oh that one really good. Eternal Sunshine of the spotless mind is a great Serious Jim Carrey role Was it was. He like Liar. Liar is was. That was what it was called. I don't remember it's it's the one where he can't tell a lie for a whole day and he's a lawyer and Okay I kind of rings a number of it's called Liar Liar like the lying man or something like that. I I think. One Super Sweet I liked that one a lot and then obviously ace Ventura. Those movies are hilarious. The second one we need to talk about it at some point on this podcast. Because I think it's People don't realize this but the second Jim Carey movie is starting the Second Ace. Ventura movie is absolutely like a low budget trash film now. Everybody saw that without knowing it. There's the specific seem that I'm thinking of whether playing chess and the camera pans away for half a second and when they come back. No one has touched the chessboard. But it's like a completely different chessboard. So like the continuity and the budget on that film must have been just like absolutely in the in in the dumpster so we should do an episode where we just Hawk Jim. Carrey movies there's like a wide array array of films that we can talk about. We could talk about talking about somebody who deserves to win the Sag Award for lifetime achievement. Yeah actually Jim Carey MHM JC very. We're fighting we call. We Call Them J. C.. Now like regular people Jim Carey Anyway. We're GONNA talk about the trailer therefore the gentleman that gentleman. Yes and I agree with you on that point when I was going through trailers trying to find a good one to talk about today's podcast. This was the one that stuck out to me to most but I still wasn't like overly impressed. No interesting that interest exactly and so this one the gentleman it comes out on January twenty fourth and it's a rated R. Action Adventure Comedy Film. Just the same as bad boys for life. OPS OPS is. Mickey Pearson's is an American expatriot. Who became rich by building a marriage Alana Empire in London? When word word gets out that he's looking to cash out of business it soon triggers an array of plots and schemes for those who want his Fortune Guy Ritchie movie? Yes that's a Guy Richie so directed by Guy Ritchie. And the what else is he. Good directed Sherlock Holmes and snatch cool. Yeah and and I remember saying the cast includes Matthew mcconaughey. Hey that was that a good McConnell impression. That was a eight yes. That's pretty heavy now. I love his commercial. He has He's sitting in the back of a Lincoln ice. He's fishing whistling the Andy Griffith theme Zog. It's so non-sequitur insulate. Oh my gosh. That's hilarious. We'll watch before we do our next podcast So Matthew mcconaughey Charlie H- Unum Hugh Grant Love Hugh Grant Michelle Dockery Don Farrell. Well that's cool. Jeremy Jeremy Strong and Henry Golding So Y- wasn't impressed wasn't impressed. I don't really know what's going on correct. I am a trailer doesn't really tell you anything. Not just the same. As like uncut gems and knives out was another one of those movies. That was kind of like trying to do that. Same thing like this is going to be super cool and then you as the viewer. Like what's GonNa be cool. I don't know what's going on why I'm wondering how the gentlemen is going to hold up against bad boys for live because they're kind of the same genre of film and bad boys for I mean it's like action there was guns like you know typical drugs rugs and Baba's for life is killing it right now and they will Smith and Martin Lawrence has done an amazing job promoting that film sense the summertime and I I have not seen a lot of Promo for the gentlemen like all like I literally found out about this film today when I was looking up and so I'm I'm curious the race to see how the gentleman does compared to bad boys for life because they're only a week apart from their release dates and it was like two days from. Yeah so well I. I don't know if it's going to take the cake but I just felt like it didn't really do anything special. There were like a couple singer was kind of funny like in the trailer when that guys in the trunk and he's like what's his name. I don't WanNA cuss on here. That's very close to a cuss word. But that that was probably the only comical moment of the trailer and if that's in the trailer and that's like they're funniest part. I don't know really what to expect for the rest of the film. Yeah Yeah and like yeah I mean I feel like the trailer for Sonic. The hedgehog is more compelling because it's like there's like three zingers and you know there's like if there's three zingers. There's no way that those are the funniest lines in the movie because you've got three like oh ha ha those were funny but this one is like wow. That's like this one hilarious her. I don't know it's a lot of Go see it and let us know. Yeah it's a lot of British actors in the film as well British. I mean it was filmed in London. I I was looking at the pond. Is that your. I'm not even GONNA try like a bad at accents. Don't leave out. Yeah I'm not anyway anyway but yeah so I. This is definitely a film. I probably will not spend my hard earned. Money at the theaters was hard earned. It is hard earned Bad boys for life was totally worth the gentleman. I'm not sure but if you listeners goal and watch it let us on the comments what you think. What are your thoughts on the film or on a trailer and anything else you got to add to the gentlemen? No we're both. I really underwhelmed underwhelmed yeah not improvident and that's GONNA conclude. Today's episode I this week. Thanks for having me back here every week after no hater right next time yes I will leave the eight or eight at home. I will forgive you today because as you're you know you were gone two weeks you were sick so we'll let it pass this time but it was a two weeks exhale wakes is you didn't come last week. Wow and it was a one woman. Show one woman show. We'll technically it's a one woman show now because I'm a man so one woman one man show saying anyway. I was leading the ship last week. I was captain. It didn't sink. Thank you did a great job I will listen to it. I can't believe that I didn't listen to it. I'm so sorry I'm like I said I'm letting it slide because you were sick. Thank you I appreciate Chirac coming and getting me sick yes because I was sick the week prior so we don't want none of that we're out of done being sick. Yes okay. Well thanks everybody for listening to this show like it subscribe leave us a Great Review Seir tweet at a comet. Do all of the fun things things that people do to engage with digital content. Yeah and if you want more to us than stay tuned for next week here at the GMC movie podcast. Check out the music podcasts. We do that together too and we wish you guys are very happy and productive week night. You can listen to the Golden state media concepts movie podcast. Hard of the Golden state media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at. WWW WWW dot. 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Bad Boys for Life

The Cinema Guys

1:04:25 hr | 6 months ago

Bad Boys for Life

"I'm Brad Justin I'm not the citadel. You were just three friends scattered all around the world chat movies. We are the cinema guys. Welcome to the show Welcome in to another episode of the cinema guys at. Is this your first time in. We love having here. You're returning we love having you back this week. We are doing bad boys for life. The Senate is on one of our trips this week. I don't know she. There were multiple that she was taking but we brought in a guest and really excited to have him in and Colby. Mac is here with us. Who's like famous Kobe? Do you have your own. IMDB page I do S. ever yellow. Yo Yo what up. It is your boy. Kobe mce cinema guy. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa Brand Myself Breath cinema guy for the thing that's the best man. You are most famous and prestigious guests all and and we have talked to directors. Thank you for for coming on with US Kobe. This is this is awesome. I'm excited for this. Now this is what is Your experience with you and obviously you've seen bad boys one and two were you a fan of batboys wanted to. I don't think he'd be black and not be a fan spell. Hunter I will. Actually I don't know how old are you. I'm thirty three years old. Okay so I'm forty. So how old were you in ninety five. I was nine Ryan Nice. Did you actually see it when you were nine. I did because of course as inappropriate as it was. You just take your kids to get out the house and pretty much you take them to the movie theater. Can you give them a foil full of chicken a juice box. Just be quiet for two hours as I grew up with a foil full of chicken and juice box at the movie theater. I'll tell you that's definitely athlete. Grandma took this. I'm not buying popcorn. GonNa take this drumstick. You'll take this little twenty five hundred ninety a five though. I was driving dating and in ninety five. I remember I could take a girl to the movies and take her to Taco Bell for twenty dollars dollars less than twenty dollars. That was a good time for budget out. Oh Man I remember him heisman. Rabbit a twenty dollar bill and being like Oh we can go to the movies anger Taco Bell. I used absolutely the best part so I grew up in Miami Florida in Dade County Three Zero five to the dad and they used to be like an AMC movie theater and we had a Taco Bell so we had a McDonald's. You remember what McDonald's on Wednesdays it was like thirty nine cent cheeseburgers like hamburgers four nights he's burgers and like my mom was like you know what day it is in like August. She gave me a ten dollar bill and we ate one kings back then. That's when eating McDonalds you feel shameful about it today. It was like a family tree. You get a happy meal tonight. Yeah we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA go to dinner. Yeah we're to McDonald's yeah here. Here's how it wasn't my my house. It was normal McDonald's. If it was Sunday it was golden corral now and if it was like dad got a pay raise or something great happened in the family it was red lobster was as high as we ever win on holidays and like big deals. It was read. Like we're going to red lobster and I wanna I wanna either sizzlers or Bennigans because they had that big old sizzlers and Bennigans and golden corral the same but that was Sunday evening we can get it on Sundays after charity. Going corral. Ahvaz Oh man long as we beat the Baptist to two days in a C- batboys. They're so bad avoid. They became like superheroes to me. At least you know because that's good saw will Smith and Martin Lawrence everywhere like this was like. They're they're apex of like their of them being nineties movie stars before both of them really took off and this was pre Men in black black gray premium earl right after fresh fresh prince and on. TV like they were. They were comedic emetic because I remember the thing people being like can we will Smith being actor. He's a rapper. Like what's the deal. It's interesting how it came about because the film was not meant for them like it wasn't a vehicle to for them. It had like a lot of production issues. I hear it was supposed to be with Jon. Lovitz and Dana Carvey in the original cast guys. That would've been the worst movie wherever it would have been sad boys or like I mean man. I thought you're going to say Yeah no not. That's the worst I had no idea. I'm glad it worked out the way that we can talk about in a second. I'm sure this isn't on Brad's agenda to talking about these or maybe but stray really curious to see and I. I hope that you can add some stuff to this to later but I was. Curious is to see in one thousand nine hundred ninety five how they talked about especially race in some of the other jokes and then two thousand twenty or nineteen. I guess how they're talking about. I was curious to see the progression of comedy. And what it meant. It's I'm really interested in talking about that when we get there. So that's that's a little. I guess what we're GonNa talk about. You want me to give the book report. Justin for Brad as a little book report. And he's GonNa tell us exactly what we're going to expect later. Radio atop this on our top COP duos and film when talk about bad boys for life and talking about that Keke. You'RE GONNA talk about bad boys bad boys two. We're just we're just talking bad boys and then at home recommendations though that worked for you Justin now has. It's a pretty good book report now. We all know exactly that we didn't expect more you know because it's so different than every other. Some people people like to know what you know the top this is coming. Maybe the time you definitely sticking around yeah I would really love to hear the folks is like you know what this is not turning all the way that I thought I thought they were going to a different time. This is one of the credit is not one of the comments I get get more often is when we do our topless people screaming at the radio be like now. Why aren't you saying this one is saying this so we'll see well speaking enough? Why don't we jump into topless and we usually do it like a round robin style? Like you do brad does one I do. That's our favorite sin maintenance not as big on that one. But let's do you particular wire. Yeah we do whatever we want. MOM's not watching. I think we should do our third second in top COP duos starting with the least favors. How about our guests colby? Why don't you start us off with your number? Three COP duo GAM my number number three is leagues and Murtaugh from numberless. Riggs and Murtaugh. Yet you gotTa have those guys on the less. It'd be the weapon one a two three and four so obviously. The I was in eighty seven I was I was a baby. I was an infant. I wasn't watching. That saw the first I know you were one was. I would've been a yes so obviously I didn't watch that but like I knew knew of it and even like is I like progressed like the film that I remember was lethal weapon force. I do Kinda feel bad right but I remembered enough images from the other three of them like I know what this is. I'm sure I've seen them before. But the one where I paid the most dimension to was in lethal weapon four and then I went back guilt these guys are maize Maison Du old love it. I love their energy. I Love Chris Rock and I I love Joe Peche. That's this is the Joe Patchy and I love I forgot about Joe Patchy Being Leo once. Leo Get okay okay. Okay Okay now did you happen to watch the TV show. I didn't watch the episode. And I love anything Wayne's and I love Damon Wayans but it just Burma has even went. was He in the original. Didn't somebody get replaced. He so Wrigley effort plays for US rigs got replaced. Nah Yeah we alone. A new one was tailored kit. Notation wasn't rigs in the Shell Taylor Kitsch already made all of his wrong decisions. And I'M GONNA go John Carter and battleship that. I think he's amazing and he chose the wrong breaking. That is tough but I watched the pilot of A. Ah this Indian had the same energy and also like what it was it was a CBS. who was a Fox show? I think the Fox the Fox chemistry that just felt a little bit off and I wasn't in love with the casting I didn't. I didn't like the the rigs character. I was cool Damon Wayans. But there's it's really hard to capture. What Danny Glover deed as Murtaugh you? You know and I'll say this absolutely a lot of projects have a tough time capturing the magic from the eighties and nineties because we as an audience do not give permission for those stories retold in the same way. It's the same thing about rigs. I think he mel Gibson played a good crazy man Mike. He was unstable. Alright he's still he stay but like those types you can't get that now like we've matured where it's GonNa take something special to like Laos given actor that license to do that. It be crazy. Yeah Yeah Yeah now that. That's a good one. I'm rick some Murtaugh all right Justin. WHO's your number three so my number three? Actually someone on our facebook actually said it but I had already had it on my list because I I love it is Turner and hooch do but I think who was technically a canine which makes him a official police officer inch nervous and so I love Turner huge man. I thought it was such a good movie and I put it on my list. I thought it was good. I think give Turner and hooch until someone on facebook mentioned that. Yeah now I went with turning news but as my number three has my number. That's that's that's fine that works. My number. Three is going to be angel and butter men from hot fuzz. Oh Nice love love those to love him. I love then picked that because of the connection to bad boys two. Oh yes bad. Boys two and point break to classic movies and and it. Oh that movie gets me every time. I just laughed. So I'm ready for a sequel of Hot fuzz. Oh I'm ready for any movie that those two together. Yeah that's that's my number three. That's Joyce which got number two we got Lee and caught for rush hour shower. Nice one. Oh Man Chris Tucker like this guy. I'm going to say I feel bad. Where he's at now? He made the citizens life that is completely legged resident with. But like there's something special like one those those duos that have that like their their their partnership spanned several movies. They mean just that much more. Four three rush hour three rush hours and four is still in development. You can never go wrong with Jackie Chan and Jackie Chan plays a really great h straight man right in the chemistry between him and Chris Rock in that I feel like I probably. I've watched rush hour one at least one hundred times so oh I agree the. Here's my thing. When's the last time you watched the rush hour one? Oh hobbling earlier this year. Okay me too so I wanted to. I've been taking my fifteen-year-old we we go through a journey film. We've been doing it forever and I was like here's one you should watch. It's a different kind of film you know And we watch rush hour one and he was not he was like. This seems a little racist and I was like no it isn't it. I don't think so. And he's like well in in this generation of kids is very sensitive. Sherlock we did anything. Adam Sandler inappropriate. That's making fun of people disabilities especially visit waterboy. Ace Ventura. They were both like. This isn't okay. No no this is not okay and I was like no but back then it didn't. They're like no it's not okay and then there's a few every now and then that does not translate like I can't hardly wait. You can't wait. That's one of my favorite team. So we watched can't hardly wait right after we watched Dazed and confused and all the teenagers loved as abused. They were like really awesome and then we watch can hardly wait and they're like these are all just stereotypes and I was like. Yeah but like so I guess for them that you can't there's things you just can't make find out and so anything that's slightly racist or slightly homophobic or slightly making find something they're all like I don't know about that but like So anyways rush hour he was just kind of bored with and I know this is really good at. This is funny The jokes are so funny like it man. It's it's so watchable achievable for me and I think I agree. It is film of its time. I got give it that and didn't didn't rush hour also. CBS Annotation to did did it. Oh I think they were working on one. I don't know if it was a pilot only in canceled or if it ever got a season I don't I don't remember. I know it was something. Something was being worked on honorable. Mention on the back of rush hour. Have you ever seen. I can't remember what it is but it's a cop movie from the eighties with Jay Leno and pat more Yada misery where I know that they were in the same sort of like slightly racist to Asian people. The rush hour series are what would play due in two thousand sixteen was on. CBS was it like no name. People aren't Justin hires. Please James Carter Jon Foo Plays Jonathan Lee now. Good didn't didn't make season are we are mind number number two yet Hari Justin. What is your number two my number two and I was afraid it was gonna Gates taken because Murtaugh Riggs was almost on it? I probably probably shift on him instead of Ternan huge but glad I didn't is tango and cash cash love I feel. I Love Tango and cash. I said why they're also my number two. I have not let my kids watch that yet but I should. I'm trying to remember if like I don't think it's it's tough. There's sometimes I don't remember how hard like one. PG Thirteen or pretty much rated ours back then well. There was a thirteen raining back there from what I understand. It's like severely homophobic like there's so many jokes about out like dropping the soap and everything else. It's now that you said I remember the scene because it was a slow camera pan of with the soap when they're in the shower and every man Dan I mean even bad boys will which will talk about but a lot of those old older cop movies when you had to mail cops. There was a lot out of like homophobic jokes. Why it's interesting to see like if you follow quote unquote like Whoa Kness? Like for instance like that movie The board that show the boys on Amazon prime which is so good and so you know into what are our world looks like. I tried reading the comic book which was made in two thousand six or two thousand eight and what they do in the book. I'm like WHOA. WHOA WHOA that? That is actually really wrong. It sounds I brought in two thousand eight. It probably was very like. Oh look how will we are. But in two thousand nine hundred nineteen year witness is not will get three that world anyway. I thought I thought about that. No it's tango cash. I like them with tingled cash. Is that Teri hatcher there too. Yep She yes what. What's his face? Palach Tango and cash. That guy. Jack Palance. Yeah that's the city slickers. Their chemistry was so good. I'm surprised they didn't really do anything else afterwards. Because I'm pretty sure. Kurt Russell is amazing. Amazing always and he's ageless like will Smith they don't age no no it. Well Tango and cash says also my number two. That's that was just a movie I had to put. I watched that movie. I think I wore out the VHS tape. We had. Because I just watched it a lot. And I love Kurt Russell. Kurt Russell is my fate. Fit One of my favorite actors so it was so it's good to see so that's the world like playing against type A little bit too like like because before that he was. He was Iraqi Rambo Cobra Kit at time where he started that like junior at that time. In a throw Momma from the train there was one weird stallone was like Sourcing pregnant right yes. There was one where stallone was was like I dunno or businessworld stop or my mom will shoot. That's awesome. Oh talk about movies that make fun of people with disabilities. The ability from Dunis was a different time. Oh so now. We're down to our number ones when he got Kobe. Your number one. Oh it has to be Mike lowry. Marcus Bernie oury yet just like banned these these guys and rewatching number one two with that whole Mike lowry and the mistaken identity. I was like all the the whole thing could have been avoided with just a couple honest phrases of conversation. Hey Look I'm not him now that you know like but they never do Adia to do is tell the truth right now. And it's like so naive to Kinda believe somebody picture this. He's buy Yes yes. It is very much homophobic guys yellow. I love the original bad boys. I love it so much when it came out. Michael Bay's like I was first film. That's that's not see we'll talk about Michael Bay but when I when I first saw that one in the I saw that one three times in the theater and I I mean I was a sophomore in college so I was like I love this. The humor the action that everything in my theory serious all teenagers should love Michael Bay. But then once you graduate teenage you should stop Lucky Michael Nature I get. We'll talk about six underground loadin which I actually liked. But you can't beat eight the first twenty minutes of that field as Michael. Bay's gets everything else at absolutely I was also like post-surgery pain medication watching six underground. letsmove is great. Mike and Marcus. That that's my number one with a bullet. That's good good. I mean that's a good one. All Right Justin who got number one so I had to go with one of my all time favorite movies slightly mentioned earlier Johnny on a Utah. And Pappas I do it as soon as I already know. Justin scone with Jonah Reeves man. I point breaks breaks one of my all time favorite movies in the world and so I love Johnny Utah and I like his quarterback punk ish. NECE in Pappas. This is a great anti him which I liked so those to my number one was also going to be Mike lowry. Marcus Burnett just because I love bad boy so much but I'm going to put on also mills in Somerset from seven. Oh Serious cowling because that movie movie. That movie is so good ooh and dynamic is great. I know Yes Morgan Freeman nails. The like I'm the older cop around around. Yeah I yeah yeah not that mortgage payment doesn't ever nail everything he does but I miss it I I wish I don't know. Oh kinda like spinoff from where we were earlier. I don't know if the buddy cop films can play definitely how they used to. But I think it's hard to kind of have a romances romanticize ation of the buddy cop mostly because policing is such a prevalent problem right now in our country. It's hard to write it so it's GonNa be tough like while you don't really glorify cops anymore remember. We used to have like career days at school around him. They still do all right. It's like okay we picture day. That'd be a cop in the classroom to be a lawyer. Firefighter and those are the three I. Actually that's would you stick in your head and I don't think any more like you. Do you. Just have that affinity forgotten got it sucks then. also I understand why we didn't. Have you know these little computers in our pockets to be able to see what goes on right you. Yeah no it's like. Oh you're wrong choice. Did you make it everything else. Fail crave and it's not like being accomplished bad. It's so that the perception of the world has changed where we're so much more cynical now. Oh yeah in some other ones that we Because we put this question out there. A few people like Schmidt Janko from twenty one jump street which was a good movie Someone someone said Jane K from there. I'm not sure if this is cops. Law enforcement they are. Yeah I thought about it too. And that's where I think again. They lose they. I think they've tried and they failed at that buddy cop near again. We just don't care dynamic you have to be really good. Why are there no female money cops there? There were a few like most McCarthy was at the one with Oh the second you throw Melissa McCarthy joke it's not funny right it's not real. I think in Brooklyn nine nine. They try to do strong female roles. And there's a rookie. Does the same the thing I think most of the training officers in the rookie are all females. Do you have any COP duos. May We missed. He can head over. The we are. The cinema guys has dot com and you can hit us up on social media. You can email us. You can call us. 'cause we never get a call let us know some of yours. Could you imagine right now. Pitching eighteen a cop show or movie. You have to make sure all all races are shown you have to make sure sexuality ACTU- -ality is shown you have to make sure the you're passionate towards all official like it would be so hard it'd be anytime you pick anything. Oh whether Nathan fillion well. This is an older white male. Oh what do we think older white male driven here on this side we have gay. African American You know young guy and they do like on time really tough Asian female leader here like his. You know I I I would imagine it would be very very tough to lose of. Yeah it's it's definitely hard to do. So because they are featuring older white male onto cop so they have to counterbalance it with everything everything else so the social media and everything else does. Just come out about this one thing. We're ready to move over to bad boys for life. Done my unretired here. We go again. You want the legacy to be muscle shirts and body counts. Look at this mess. It's carnage. I didn't do all this. You didn't shoot anybody. It kept me. No shots these streets members by the masking batboys batboys last time last time this is the third movie in the series which started in nineteen ninety. I Five I can't believe the first movie came out in Nineteen Ninety five nine hundred ninety five so it is literally bid in one of my big questions going in as is like has it literally been in twenty five years in the show in and it was except for there was a weird date break. Did you guys catch the daybreak. They I don't know why they did that. Because in the very I seen in there in the bar they say we caught for twenty five years and then his flashback. He says nine hundred ninety six before we were together. But we're like no no no you were already together twenty four years ago yes. So they're telling why that that's in there bug me the entire time. There's a little flow because they were. They were partners partners for six years when we met them in ninety five. Yeah and he said before we were partners. That's when he shacked up with the girl to have spoiler alerts before we jump into our ruins Justin a ratings for the movie and then we will. We'll we'll we'll move into the BRUINS. Er that he can just give a quick thought and your star rating. We do out of five. I Know Koby you can do your writing. I know you do ratings out of ten head so you can you. Let's hear that ten I'm excited by y'all's ruin. I've gone back and forth much. You get so much Grayson ten something about the Star Rating. The I don't know I don't know why it should be easily visible. But no like legit. I was worried about this though. Like this is going to be that long overdue sequel. That's just the cash grab we're going to have like a really just you know like nothing matters plot the action not going to be great because these guys are old and like why are we doing. This don't ruin what I've had. It's been seventeen years and I was shocked like I was surprised. How much like the film is one way over in the first five minutes of it like I was just this? It ended up being greater later than what I thought it could be somehow like a lot more poignant than what I ever gave it credit for I think the screenplay is probably the strongest out of the entire trilogy and all the magic all the chemistry that you remember from ninety five thousand three they had but now they have all this wisdom and the wisdom in comedy and their timing and these directors were able. I'M GONNA make it all work and I think it sets up a lot for more stories to tell but by also kind of put a little bow on who we spent with over the past twenty five years and I rate did this on the court and told me scale eight ten which would be four stars. Nice so I went in with very low expectations so right before I wash Josh wanted. It wanted to a long time ago. So I've watched one and two and I was like I love. I love love. Love Will Smith I love. I Love Martin Lawrence. I liked birth earth a loved one I thought to Rewatch into I was like Oh gosh this is really borne so I went with look whatever and I loved it I cried ride the which is a big deal for me. I like to cry movies and I it made me cry. It made me tear up even the beginning to seeing them and I felt like I love this new director. I love the story. I loved what they did with the whole. I mean the whole dynamic. I just loved it all to where I was. I laughed after I cried and I was entertained so I gave it a four and a half out of five because I loved it. I thought it was one of my most favorite movie experiences. I've had in a long time. Actually I love. You got see it before me. Justin and I know you came out and you were. You're raving about it. And I went see the the same day I thought I watched bad boys one and two that day saw bad boys for life that night and I absolutely love love the first one the first one one is hands down one of my favorite like cop movies action movies anything and rewatching it just just made me feel that again that in the second one not quite as good as I remembered it been quite a few years but it's still entertaining car chase scenes. Were like fifty hands long Ed gunshot scenes where I was so i. That's why I think you know where was so bad. Boys two came out like four years after the Matrix and I think four years after the Matrix I was so tired of seeing gunshot scenes and long car chase scenes and so I just. I'm bored with that. So if you can do a car chase scene and I'm still interested which they did in the new movie and you can do a fight scene and I'm still interested which they did in the new movie that I think you did something really cool and and like you call. The I was I was worried going in. I mean it's been seventeen years. This movie spin on again off again. Directors directors out out in. And so glad Michael is ever going to be made and we just kind of blew it off and they finally got it so I think my expectations were a little a little high going. Oh my God batboys back there back that we're doing this like I. I really liked the movie I gave it a three and a half. It was a solid movie but it didn't quite hit the peak of the first one for me but it s still had fun and I still enjoyed it and I love these directors and everything else. I respect. Dan Wasn't the first thing that I realized that I loved was that they so I I went in knowing like man will. Smith still looks good. I don't know what they've done with Martin Lawrence O.. C. By liked the movie acknowledges that like they never suppose that Martin Lawrence words is some bad ass guy. They're like he's aged just like we all have for some reason will smith who kept it character of like trust fund. I you you know. I don't need I. I'm a cop because I love the thrill whereas Martin Lawrence always had a family always had a wife always had other concerns so I love that they kept true to that exactly how those two characters would have aged day hosted they nailed it. You gotTa Lean into it and I think that this story and Joe Carnahan was supposed to directed did and for whatever reason he was able to do it but they still kept the bones of his story and I think that was really smart because obviously I mean will smith breath. It's up to him whether or not this film's going to get made right. I love his new renewed sense of selfish found in the past three years. Because I don't think that the will audible Smith would have revisited his role. He was very calculated and everything that he did in Hollywood and his his new renewed kind of spirit. Just allow them to have fun and this was looser like this was still a little bit different than the Mike lowry that we saw in gem. You know so. It's natural true that there should be some type of progression in these past seventeen years but they don't try to cheap it make. It seem as if like you know. They're they're younger. Anything like that. Like no no. I was a little skeptical with the first trailer. Showed me for Martin Lawrence. He has out the game but he hasn't been like in our consciousness right while right awhile while do does he have like a something going on. I was like it looks weird. I was it was very pronounced at. He's easily before in the face. You know what I'm saying and might think yeah I was thinking after the Camille Nanjiani Release House like well they probably could have done with Martin Lawrence and you would think prepare for a new movie coming up. Maybe she hit the gym a little bit. You know but but also works. He's he's he's Yep he's pop pop and he wanted to sit in the recliner in hang out like he didn't media hold the babies and just to see the baby uh-huh so I saw on a we got sneak previews Am I would probably say. Ninety percent of the audience was African American that night and I actually liked because they allow there was there. Were jokes made that I didn't. I would have laughed at like for instance the cocoa butter Die For the beard like both times. I mean huge audience reaction whereas like I'm missing out on something here. I don't know in this shade of Die. A there was quite a few things at night. And that audience loved Martin Lawrence. Yeah like there is a you could tell. There is an emotional reaction towards Martin Lawrence more than will Smith because they loved his persona. We got MAG. I did get on for a while. He has and he's got some personal issues too so it felt like man we got back. This ICONET that that we did was gone forever. Gone from ever being how we used to know him and the fact that he was able to tap into something in the cinematography argument editing. On this film really helped out like there's things for me as a screenwriter. I can tell just even without reading the screenplay I can see it on screen how they left moments for these actors to play and I will say that does lend to the film being maybe a little a tad longer than what it needs to be. It's not a tight film right. There's some like the pacing especially in the second act. I want to say it's walkie. It just leaves room right. I think film is doing a good job at balancing the action the the comedy and the heart. This is so much Phil what I gave credit ever for to be an after so many years. These these two actors will Smith and Martin Lawrence I. Their chemistry was still there with spot on like where them back in. Two thousand three like as I've gotten older. I don't WanNa see more a car chase scenes gunfights scenes. I WANNA see more story like I want to see more character development and I but I WANNA see like action too so like the action added did with with this new with his son was great I was I didn't see it coming towards the end. You are guessing plan you see that. Come in a clap up for them. The trailer not reveal any like that. That's something that a badge studio album. This would've thrown away. Oh He's got this but you didn't see coming they so you will Smith and Martin Lawrence and now it was. It was really great to get that surprised at one. You probably didn't even need it. I think that we had so much. It came out of nowhere aware now say. I'm glad I'm glad how they did it. Because we ended up getting a backstory to mike and Understand what made Mike in Jack you know who ooh my my Oh crap moment was when the the chief shot I yes I like you kind of felt something. I soon as that scene was is happening. I was like Oh. He's the next to get targeted but then he suddenly gets shot and I go. Oh shoot. It was blocked Ra like something feels off off right now happens and I go. I joked about got covered my mouth coming. I felt that Mike lowry getting shot. Kind of didn't have the emotion that they wanted it to have Jack Australia with it because I just watched the one and two so I got real emotional. I knew he wasn't going to die. Clearly I think it'd be it would have hit me more like you know if it just came out and it was as abrupt as what happened to joy pants then I although more all the time on my dude you're sniping everyone everyone from miles away. They decide to get this guy. Link kind of ride with sniping makes a lot more sense all around but whatever I get it I the sniper thing just do that never go up close. I will say I was as it started. I was kind of concerned. Learned I about this. You know the the old cops and the new flashy young team like I'm like Ooh I hope they they don't screw this up but they did it very well especially Mike lowry and the One lady had this this thing going on like pop that guy a little bit more than I still wanted one little. Like I'm GonNa put you on your ass thing. But he never came. It's definitely ballsy for a trilogy. That's this far overdue Redo to try to add so many new characters because usually take away undercut the relevance of like the plot but it ended up really working and I don't know whether if we were in our nostalgia fields or it was it was will Smith and Martin Lawrence like movie stardom coming back then like you just kind of clouded us for like really looking at it but like it ended working because I had the same thing man I was like. Oh we're going to get the young cops in in the trailer like they did the trailer thing and they're doing the gosh. This is going to be long. Hopefully they do it well and obviously it. You know the big axe. The I think it's the first scene with will Smith and them and they you know he does the kickout sideways slow motion and I'm like. Oh this is this is what we want the thick yeah it's great that intergenerational conflict works out well yeah yes yeah in Iraq. The leader the leader of the AMMO team team. She's hot yes she's I like to call it. Latino Latina Kobe smoulders Latina collect mortars fantastic zig description. You die would not have thought that but now that you said that actually makes one hundred percent completely new character but yes you believe all of the history that she had with Mike. Oh yeah right One little discrepancy. I thought the whole time they always play will smith as trust. It's fun baby and Martin Lawrence has barely getting by. But I will say Austria. The movies Martin Lawrence seems like he's living all right just pretty all right. Yeah AH ABOVE GROUND POOL in a huge ass yard on the water. It's startling because I'm like yes. Looks like the view of the whole time. I'm like you're living every I get. I don't know why you're buying the above ground pool because you seem to be able to afford the ground they can't because they're so close to the waterline. That's probably why he's got to. He's definitely got him. And Mike's pad that trust fund went along because it's ridiculous ridiculous but I was the whole time I was like you still seem to be linen all right so it's not like I loved the sun is the villain to like he was a good villain before we even even news. The son like this when they did the visor shot I guess they were trying to maybe show a similarity between row lines and I slit even then. I didn't get it but I was like. Oh yeah they're looking I. He's met his match. I liked him as a villain. I thought he was a really scary. And Find in like you. I was like how Iraq should served you when you guys said Thinking of a lethal weapon four when they introduced jet Li. Yes the whole time. You're like what can riggs and Murtaugh Audu to this bad ass like guy. That's how I thought about this. I was like what can these guys I think so many kind of like little. Oh Maggio's to some really great action movie moments like there's Lage's too fast and furious out. See where you're at with with lethal weapon four if fast forward to the end of bad boys for life life and it's the big showdown between Armando the sign. And then Mike and Marcus and lethal weapon four where they take down jet Li there underneath the bridge in. It's raining the one in this burning down. Oh tell me in the eight years and yeah that's good and I tell you what as cheesy as it sort sort of was i. Love the throwback to I'm penetrating his heart with my soul like the. I didn't see the line coming. They totally built up. And I love a throwback that you don't see coming I love foreshadowing that you'd like to four shadowing moment and I and I love it when you don't seek I was like man when he said it worked and it was the whole scene work it really early was earned because yet emotional breakdown that might goes through outside of the AMMO headquarters headquarters which I thought was really tender. Because Greenwich we don't see much of like character development in the first two acts the film until that point Mike literally flash for his eyes and has to come to grips at. Somebody's out to kill him and should change most people right then and there but you still stuck stuck in his old ways but then getting to this point of being so close and then being reminded of something in your past. It's kind of all my God. You know I started off Wei ago which means nothing I propose we actually let it mean nothing and thinking and then like now. He's piecing together discount. Looks like me this is the version of me. And it's it's all coming back without having that and with the decision making then him saying I'm going to penetrate your you know your your soul my heart it wouldn't have made sense and Honestly the first time that we hear from our Lawrence it should make sense because that was the line that you remember from the trailer and use those trailer tricks. Don't work and everything that we've seen in the trailer for some reason it just it work. I didn't feel like as a God. Well that wasn't as funny as I thought it ended up being funnier and that was a good progression from USA from absolutely yeah right. Yeah Yeah I think my favorite the style joke is bringing back Reggie after they gave him such a hard time and bad points. You Oh you real for real right acted age. Yeah I clearly knew it was because he looks the same just older but I was. It was locked down. I was like Yes Reggie Bat to have that happen like for those. That may have been like. I don't know what I'm going to get. Yeah but there's movie even if you didn't watch bad boys to that seen bad boys two is like a pop culture reference. You know like it's still still shows up the memes this day in the fact that you can be able to mimic that and get all the Joe. It's Reggie like you flip out and it's only been in the first eight minutes of the film. Yeah you're like all great like now I'm invested I've given you permission to keep bringing it back and they and they take these little moments limits to like. Have all these little other cool. References in. This movie is just fine. You'd think as much as I love the fast and furious films. They take themselves too seriously where it seems to bananas to really buy it. This isn't that doesn't take itself seriously. Just seems so organic for the they built Ya. I agree totally great. They go over the top but it's an immoral grounded world than what fasten the furious is. Yeah Yeah Yeah I have one more question in the beginning you said for when you were younger this was like superheroes right was an ninety five. That's an interesting thing because there wasn't a lot of superhero. What we had a couple of Batmans a couple old superman blade wasn't even out doesn't even I spun? That was my. There's not a lot. Do you think this movie would be the same for for a seven-year-old boy you're a like now like do you. Think or has superhero becomes something or even African Americans on film becomes something different. Like what do you think yes or no. Unfortunately our age or the young kids against this movie is for our age. It's a throwback so this this does 'cause I'll tell you this. If there was no bad was bad boys to this movie would not be as effective as it is. We've given permission to do certain things one of my favorite films at twenty nineteen that everybody seems there. Hey is chef and see the new one son ate such even. I've been looking for instagram. Sorry Red Box and all the crap to try to find it. I can't find it. It's hilarious but it's super insensitive. And is it a throwback to say Jackson shaft. Yes or or the old It's it's it does incorporates. Both richer rowntree's treated by the jokes. Particular are very much pension of sexy. S- you know misogynous homophobic homophobic and for a lot of folks that have gone pass. How in that type of comedy to to really be enjoyable? The thing is I'm great at compartmentalizing so like the joy whilst the well. I'll let this do it. But it had given it permission to. I'm a big proponent of permission with regards to an audience so fortunately back in the day and I was talking about this on the a real spoilers podcast and cops. Those were action superheroes back in the eighties and nineties. We're now we actually have superheroes have taken their place right because we have the technology and the resources to do it so I could be able to gravitate to Mike and Marcus because they don't wear capes or tights or work dress now. Couple writing Mike districts allow colors but yeah but they're not like going be of and above and beyond what we know like I. Actually your whole story reminds me of a dolemite. The last last seen a dolemite where he goes out into the crowd and is the boy. And you're thinking from a two thousand twenty perspective like well. That's a such a young kid to be in such gotcha. No nudity in what. Why would they get by? It means something bigger than what was going at the moment I am back then those kind of movies it was the Kung Fu star. The Guy who don't agree bag martial arts I remember you know one of my favorite martial arts films is the last dragon and that was that was a berry. Gordon Renault's Madama type time on you know that was a loved so much and I watch it every year and the reason why I'm young and if I'm five or six seven years old I shouldn't watch that stuff but there wasn't a lot of content for that to watch films were people who look like me. Were on screen Saturday taken in any which way that I can. I mean one of my earliest memories of film was about cowboys and there are black cowboys. Remember the movie posse. I love that movie. That is not for kids but that is the earliest film that I ever remember watching those with Marc morial. People's Mario that people are smart and there's unbelievable Baldwin. Why would I remember watching blazing saddles? When I was six years old? I it's the The Times are very much different because that changed. You know that. That's exactly leading to watch the watchman because they deal with alike. There's actually a scene whereas a little girl she has a video. VHS tapes she wants to rent and if you listen to the podcast. The director was so careful with little. She's she's the African American woman or girl a little girl and sit of Sane. She looks like me or saying I look like her. She says she looks like me. Like this idea of like. Here's a woman on screen. WHO's black and there's no one else I like? It means something like that. You got to watch the Washington. It's it's the best thing but no that's that I'm interested in thinking about all the time because I have obviously three white boys in. I like to ask them all the time. What do you think about this? What that's on screen? What does that mean in? And they like to talk about it. We're going through Westerns right. Now we've gone through about ten different different Westerns. And they're really interested in how they portrayed native Americans in how they portray African Americans how they portray You you know women yes. It's all and they're all the same except for we watch The newest installment of magnificent seven within the Washington. They they quickly go. They Represent All races and women get a strong point of view in this and I was like. That's the difference. You're seeing right now. You know it's it's just the whole I don't know I don't. I'm not smart enough to know what to do with all of it other than it's interesting to see they notice all of it. I think what you're doing is great because you're having the conversation there's a lot of folks that are afraid to have the conversation absolutely are and they're having those conversations at school regardless of Nice. That's the challenging doing fun park. I think that's the responsible as a parent like how do I shape and like just sponsor this. I'm not going to tell you what's right and what's wrong. I want you to feel your heart and you'll know right and then I'm kind of move over there but I love the fact that these films and this is an action comedy. That's like having US talk about it like this right because it feels like something we haven't seen in a very very long time so I'm yeah I'm very grateful for. I've got no problem. Saints the best action comedy of the decade. So no I I agree it was so good it was funny. I laughed so many don on the decade just started calling in ninety five. What and I don't I'm asking because I really they don't know? Was it uncommon to see two black stars of a film in Ninety Five. I don't know I don't remember in this type of movie es- US especially in a leads to leads. That are cops movie absolutely. And here's where I'm going to ask. I would say no but I want to ask if you is uncommon. Now still yes. Okay but it's good now right. It's not good now presence in black culture. There's this thing called. You know who's next or taking turns right. You typically don't have multiple stars sharing that you know it's it's like okay like I'm on your so a couple of years ago. We had Kevin Hart and Ice Cube in the ride. alongs series right. It's something that's very unique. It doesn't happen often often and obviously a dozen had lasting power and it was like in the moment that it's there but like these stars had their turn the spotlight and go away. Eddie Murphy had his term will Smith at his turn. Marne haddish turn. It's rare to get them together. I mean you know Denzel right never played opposite against another black like it never happened. You Know Samuel Jackson lower play opposite another by in like when they were leading the films. I mean you know I was thinking about this regards like the buddy cops but I don't really consider negotiator. A buddy cop with him and Kevin Spacey but I loved their dynamic right off. Tom Do take turns That's so sad and there's a lot of times we think like man. I think we've come a long way and we have we. We have much more to push me out man so good so this is so rich so dr are real any anything more. You want to say on bad boys for life before we move on the last. They'll only last thing I I want to say is I love the Michael Bay Cameo. I felt like it was. He came onto cantillon to ex people. He was yeah. He was like the wedding of announcer guy. I'd say I don't care for super-quick I mean it was. It was for for some of those folks that are the goal. What am I gonNA be able to be in this? Because he's a producer film thrown guys right. Exactly you know. Come in there. Let them just you know for what it is. Michael Bay whether you hate his films or you love US films. He still a staple of like you can't tell the story of Hollywood without Michael Bay. We got cool things right time and he does he goes for right. It loves the way that he makes Phil. So you know what great little cameo was something quick great little cameo from a from DJ cow. That was really really fun I I love all the stuff with the witch just Marcus's lines with you know a week without it now. It's good not supposed I work with the delivery was ace. This film is fine. It's got room to be able to grow hudgens leave the Netflix holiday stuff. And let's just I want you to Action Star Vanessa Hudgens. She should be the new Zoe. Saldana right I like the Kid Alex. From which the idea that there could be a new one with just will smith in his son Little Tag. I mean it almost seems like like a like an entry point in suicide squad. We're going to have to work off your years and like I I yeah I can I can ride with this. Yeah the only thing is get the title right and because this wasn't the fourth film it would've made sense to be bad boys Nuoro like number four four but you gotta do it so I'm thinking for the next one bad boys number four life to go out watch it great movie. You'll be it's made over one hundred million dollars. Please watching watching the format. It's it's it's a fun action but we like it. You'd love the series series. You'RE GONNA love this movie regardless before we move into a home recommendations. I want to come to the square theater here in Cincinnati. We have a screening on Kabiri twenty-second. We are going to be hosting a screening of color out of space. It is a Nicholas Cage Crazy Nick cage movie that I am excited to. I have not seen it so I'm excited to host the screening. ANC This this crazy lovecraft movie. That that superdome. I can't find it but I've heard good things about it. Let's do some at home recommendations. You just watch a lot cobaine. Watch watch a lot of loam lately I haven't been sleeping so I watch a whole. Hey same thing i. This year's been different. I've watched more stuff at home this year than I did last year. I just feel I. Finally I started that Dracula Series on Netflix. Okay oh I've been wanting to look at that. Is it good enough good to me. Excite the witcher is good like I kept watching it differently one. I'm a sucker for vampire anything right to sew up vampire I I find them to be fascinating. I've been working on a script like like how vampires were derived from neff alum and they descended from heaven. I I love playing with the entire lower and who my favorite play with Lower Amana. Pires is two thousand when they made him do this. The plastic thing this reminds me a LOT OF DRACULA TWO THOUSAND BBC version but still mix very much. The BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA. Seeing any watching is good. I I recommend it okay man. That's a good recommendation. New do it will add things you watch. Just I'm just GONNA do one I'm going to do. I can actually scratching. The second one was doing one I ran out of things new to watch. I actually should watch JE Dracula but I went to. HBO's The outsiders there's been three episodes with What's his face from? Rogue one when Mendelssohn Ben Mendelsohn. Yes yes yes and I didn't care to watch it because it's really dark and I was like maybe I need some happy in my life. But it's so oh good and it's very Stephen King because it's a Stephen King thing and I'm like this is going to be so good and I know it's GonNa end so stupid. But because that's Stephen King. The the first three episodes are Jason Bateman. It is really good in a really dark. It's actually worth watching. It's to get one and it's on. Hbo Hbo Right. HBO That and Watch beyond the outsiders. The watchman is an absolute I before anything else while. That's excellent mine. This I watched the movie this past week that I did not get a chance to see in the theater. It just dropped on Disney plus this past week at the Aladdin with Will Smith. I loved I like I haven't been a big fan of these live action remakes but this one just gnaws Gertz Will Smith was a great genie identity quite like Jaffar who the guy who has too far but everything else was just but they they kept to the good ethnic actors. Yeah and I thought will Smith was either. I love what they did with the extra element to the genius originally was worried. Because you know problem waves. We grew up with Robin Williams. G right so you get somebody who's so far away for me that your his own like this is will Smith's genie. This is trying to be Robin Williams. It's it's all him and which reminds at a record guys who and I haven't seen it but have you genesee Gemini Man. What happened with that? I watched it. We're last night actually. And it's not that good. It's not good. Did you call me. I watched it and it's intended for intended format. The intended format of fortunately is not available in the United States I wanted to see antenna former flush in HD. Yeah I was four K.. Ten Eighty two something a step below. It does matter a lot in the way like how. Oh it was supposed to be shot. But there's one the script is not great. It's been sitting on the shelf like twenty years. It's very conventional on something we've seen before the technique of shooting it. That way is unique it. It's just we're not there yet. We have also to ride on. I don't I'm not technical enough to know what the technique is all you got like an HDTV like an HDTV and you got that motion blur. Yeah and you're like what is this. Yeah so does appetites ten so it it looks it. It's you can't interpret it like that that motion you know what's really odd and then also the CG it's good in some moments eight is roth. Awesome others like me real rough so this could be being old but I mean I go to the Irishman and I don't care to see U. D. agent actor get a new actor. Yeah I think we are. Where adult enough to know in our brains? I'll it's not the same person but it's the younger version I don't I don't think we need this. Now let's CGI person down to younger. I just think we can we are. We're how you said volved enough in our brains to make connection. I see what you're doing I can go with it like find some good. Find a young Robert Who could be a young Robert Deniro find a guy who could be a young will Smith I just? I don't care for the aging thing. I think it's dumb but I also know that I'm getting older now and I you know can be a corruption so I I WANNA say Colby. Thank you for coming on the cinema guys with us. Yeah so good I hope. Let us know content. Where can we find callback online? Yes yeah thank you. Thank you guys so much. This was a hell of a good Tomahawk. I hope I can be able to come back and do it again. If actually gives as me permission so really really good win to get on her good side But now you guys are awesome eighties. Absolute pleasure being a fan of podcast and getting a chance to be able to share this time just talking about what we love and movies but if you want to continue to get get your boy you can follow me on twitter. Instagram Graham at Kobe told me and if still interface book I am there at Kobe Mac and when asked you where you heard it from you can tell them. Kobe told me I love this. Thank you the cinnamon will be back in a couple of weeks we are. I think we're planning to do parasite when we have not seen yet. Oh I'm GONNA hopefully see at this week. But parasite will be next. We figure ward season. Let's Newman. Korean film went on. I want to thank you again. Colby and until next time time maybe we will see you at the movies mm-hmm And my wife. She's you scared me. This is colby not Ashley now. 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Bad Boys For Life, Resident Evil: Project Resistance, & The Reliant | Pop Culture Comedy Podcast

One Giant Leap For Geeks

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Bad Boys For Life, Resident Evil: Project Resistance, & The Reliant | Pop Culture Comedy Podcast

"What's up guys on this week. Show they take him are goons. We a go in nowhere. We going no where we can't be stopped now. Cause it's bad boy for life and resident evil forty seven then more on this episode of one giant leap for Gigs Music Gigs welcome to another episode of Odiele. Gee We talk about movies video games and all things and key culture. I'm your host Mike C. Squared with your US Ben Wa I was listening to an eighties American British dual by the name of wax and elect their two singles but I understand why they had very little success with not not even really one minor hit April of eighty six and DJ Mellie Mell. Hey before you started. I WanNa let you know if you enjoy the show telsim awesome friends about US share some of your social media. Whatever you choose to do just know that you're helping us. Let others know about the best and podcast. They probably never heard of now. If you WANNA talk to us to show was on twitter at giant leap the number four geeks get hold of our resident. Dj Mellie Mell at froggy beaver and Ben was at Ben Wa Gaming. That's B. E. N. W. H. Gaming Yeah if you're like me and around my age era sucker furnace style especially eight hundred ninety s I'm talking music movies television game just just hop culture as a whole so if you're from mid Michigan or going to be traveling to the area. I suggest you check out rewind. Bertran rewind is a vintage inspired fired blast from the past with not just trinkets and novelty items but don't care to rack as well. I'm talking to shirts jackets caps and even sneakers retro styles to make thank your inner child smile absolutely positively definitely check out rewind. You might even see you boy walk mold schooler shooting the breeze with the owner. Tyler rewind is right off the ice seventy-five aches at one thirty six in the birch run premium outlets section e next cracks what should been doing preparing for my very very very very overdue exit at work. I don't know if you want to put this on wax because if off Jewish you end up getting stuck there you go back and listen. This'll the day you know. I'm not saying after today. I'm done yeah yeah like what you were telling me off. Mike Yeah I put up with the lie and and this is this is so even if my other thing excuse me doesn't work out. I still ain't strain there nope but other than that I mean I got some ice cream today. That was exciting. Yeah what kind of Kim Pie cheesecake blizzard from dairy queen. I gotTA believe it out. We weren't sponsor broaderrick coins Kitty you. I'm pretty sure your android. It's any consolation. I don't know if I recorded my a little non sequitur when you introduce this is already gone off to a great start. Oh Nice We're just tripping all over shit. I unpack my house a little bit more this week and we went and saw a movie without you. Yes sorry we're in without you like do you. Were not invited either. You're not invited. I'm sorry I had to sleepover with the girls I was kind of cool cool so our live studio audience and then a friend of hers we camped out in the living room Friday night. Do the delivery room Nah another limited ten but we had the dog lane on the pillows and we made homemade chicken tenders and popcorn and they had like a giant three pound bag of gummy in worms so that was exciting and we watched the original it and it chapter one so Nice Nice. You know it's funny. Every time I hear about Oh girl talking about having like a sleepover or something like that I always like picture like them like watching like the notebook in eating like Pizza Rolls Pine Ice Cream in her all wear oversized t shirts and underwear and sitting on the couch bad either I could pass on the pint of ice cream but I'm down for some pizza rolls and Oversight Shirt in the notebook in the facial masks on your face but no we kind of had a scary girls night so those exciting nice we had we had to prep for the movie that we saw that you were not invited to on our she's. It's like bitch. What about you. What were you doing I will apparently I guess I didn't look into this. I just happened to stumble upon it. Amount due has released a mystery flavor of pop and I got my hands on one of them and it's actually pretty good at first. I took a drink of it. I'm like this tastes like a citrusy cotton candy like it's real sweet and Kinda orangey and then I broke it down and I think the Voodoo a mystery flavor is like cream cycle. Okay then imagine drinking cream. Sickle pop short bursts but I couldn't regularly drink because we all I would imagine that sweetness overwhelming. I'm glad it it tastes better than the mystery airheads. y'All remember them. No I wasn't a very good security. I like their heads. They came in like a silver package or quite package or something had question marks all over it and it didn't have color so you couldn't guess the flavor yeah. It was just plain old white right yeah yeah. I think it was like Whiter. I Dunno weird yellow color or something but I think the white I want to say it was white like yeah. I remember those and I've also been binge watching. I've been binge watching is Zombie on Netflix. He's he's. It was one of those. I wasn't feeling well. I was just kind of in bad little headache. I'm like I don't WanNa do anything. Let's turn on Netflix see what recommends uh-huh came up saying like ninety nine percent whatever they say like not approval but like ninety nine l. compatibility or ability yeah. It's like what the Hell Lil. This is probably shit but I'm GONNA watch any way in now. I'm all the way through season too nice. I enjoyed that show here is pretty good and one of the guys on the show he's like the Indian guy on the show. Okay Ravi. Yeah yeah the the guy in real life. His name is Coley and I follow him on instagram because he has done like videos with like the fun house guys and stuff and that's how I know him. It was talking about how is Ambi- and I'm like Oh okay. I was like under Aussie show but I'm like. I'm aware of the Halloween something I'll ever watch Mata's Zombie fan well. It's it's more like a procedural show with like Superhero elements in it like girls zombies. She like is What is the people who due to a coroner yeah and she it's not a graphic novel and she's a corner who gets these visions when she eats the brains of the cadaverous for dead bodies and she says it is from that okay. I'll be interested. It's not it's not what you think. When you hear Zombie the brains zombies that's all really is. It's like hey we're or like what's that's another show that had like supernatural elements to. Abo- still kind of kind of buffy the show Kinda SORTA now I wouldn't even yeah no no buffy was almost like dark teen angst. This is more like trying to Nerdy slapstick comedy. You like the show psych with zombies yeah Zambia's. I could probably check that out. I'll have to ask our studio audience. If we paid the NETFLIX account. I didn't really care until the main thing that made me think okay. This is something I I wanNA. Watch is that it said like five seasons known yeah so. It wasn't something that I might like the first two episodes wants to season have to wait a year to come back to to like I got probably the better part of sixty episodes to go through like an eye on their final season right now to do they currently are on the Adva- can't talk the still currently have the CW then. Yep Yeah Yeah they're. They're this year's their final a year this season towards the tail end of it if if you out there listening have not watched is rb but you've you've seen it it gets spent was recommendation and it gets to sniffs from ICU squared right and it gets out. I'll check it out from. Dj Mail email. I am so charismatic is made her want to watch that show. Somebody ought to hire me right. I'm saying well as for me. I I am finally on vacation. It doesn't feel like a vacation because I didn't actually go anywhere. I'm just Kinda at home. been getting some stuff done around the House that I've been meaning to get to for while that. I've been kind of putting off dealing with trying to house train in training journal the dog my allergies are not being friendly to me right now so you get an extra easily episode of this week. I don't think it's because of the dog 'cause that first week. I was fine but these last two or three days I've been kind of like not really filling it other other than that. I am a just downloaded last night. Earth Defense Force five is super long name and it is a weird corny like a sandbox shooter where you're basically basically fighting like giant AIDS and frogs with like Plasma Rifles and aliens and all kinds of weird shit it's from Japan and his crazy shit but it's actually actually really fun and is really addicting and it has its own steam and on ps four on Plano ps four Gamertag is Mike C. Squared so if you guys anybody out there listening plays difference force five. I'm looking for parties. I am new so bear with me by by other than that. That's pretty much just been kind of maximum relaxing challenge cool shooting some people outside of school a couple full of guys who are up to no good coming right making trouble in my neighborhood right all right moving on congratulations on finding a new job. Now Trust me. I do now what is lights. Hey your job but you can't leave. This was on not enough. Bernie in the beginning of Big Willie was a nice little transitioning positioning. I didn't even do that on purpose. Actually we have our first official trailer for bad boys for life they. I'm disappointed disappointed right out the gate because there is no number four in the title even though this is the third movie I still just expected them to go bad boys the number four in life but I think we said we didn't want that. If I wanted to. Just be dumb was initially. GonNa just be bad bad boys three yeah which I don't know why you're calling a bad boys for life because it keeps confusing me making me think. was there a bad boys. Three hundred zero remember the moment notre wasn't right now. I'm starting to wonder there's only one and two okay all right good. Good this a secret bad boys three own well. I think part of the reason they named it. Bad boys for life was that one of the storylines is going to be Martin Lawrence character wanting to retire. is going to play into the whole midlife crisis. I want to retire so the name lethal weapon then Gotcha oh yeah so now he can be the one that says I'm too. He can be the The Murtaugh of this duo yeah because I always always was yeah because I would say if compared him to lethal weapon yeah we'll. Smith was definitely the Mel Gibson of the franchise because he did auto crazy. You should it's funny 'cause watching this like I. It made me remember how much I love the first boys and how much I dislike bellboys to U. N. C. I'm on the opposite side of that. I didn't care for the first one but I love the second one man. I'm like because I think it's because I like a lot of Michael Bay's early movies like the Rock in bad boys shit like that like those movies I enjoy once he got bigger budgets and they gave him more money like pretty much everything after Armageddon he just lost his fucking mine and they just gave him a fireworks factory and he was just like blow some shit up and I'm like now. You're doing too much. You gotTA calmed down some but like bad boys is a perfect example of his earlier movies that I was like. This is actually really good. I didn't even know those. I'm Michael Bay Movie Yeah Yep. I do bad boys. Michael Bay joints because what makes you boys to Michael. Bay movie is because during during the middle of a shootout. There's a scene where Martin looks over in his two rats fucking each other. Why is this in the movie is just like Shit like that. CABEZAS randomly throws in and he just thinks it's funny. I guess too and it was it. Save the transformers movies remember when Bumblebee Pedo net dude. Where's this is the dome like juvenile s like Frat Boy Bumblebee peed on him though it was or or either at or very lingering you know exposing shots of women like either you know we're like going down blouse shot now. Megan Fox's take top or you know he's like ups curtain some girl getting out of a car labor judy slow motion and it's like come on man or if somebody's running and slapping amazing slow motion and it's like okay man. I get it like you think she's hot like. Can we progress the story like no. We're going to just keep you do all right so he makes he makes films. He shoots films like he's a twenty year old college student just waiting to lose his virginity. Yes yes yes. He shoots a rap music video. All all those explosions. All those big booms in his films are just him metaphorically have in that I busted. Yes you over and over and over again. Not I swear to God yeah see there's always a chick like running through the the metaphors complete yellow right y'all right but that being said even though Michael Bay isn't directing this one it still looks just as big and loud and bombastic as the second one did not true and I was Kinda hoping they were kind of tone it down some for the third one because just like they're older. You know I liked the second one the second one was big and loud and the first one is too slow for me but to slow yeah that whole bit where Martin is trying to go meet the witness for the first time and well is knocked out and hospital ship so he can't come so yes pretend he's will yes. He's outside the party. He's like Toronto. Mike Mike Lowery three off off shits alerts or very beginning where he's talking about his Porsche in about how it's like a big black. Shiny Dick and we just the balls is dragging fucking long long like that that movie is gold. It's perfect just the way it is. Quote me one funny live from bad boys to our application pleasure to somebody shot me who Shami you shot me. You ever made love to see okay shot you. In the is solid. I was shooting. That was the second one right here. Daughter's Boyfriend House Chris Looking on the fugger thirty never mind. I'm sorry I brought it up so tell me what what did you think about this trailer. I'm I'm excited for it. I mean I do enjoy the franchise as a whole broker and will smith. I like pretty much everything that he's in and so I'm excited for it. What about YOU MILWAUKEE. I don't care I'm a a little more curious about. LA's finest which was a spin off of bad boys two linus what was that way the TV show up show. What was it on my one network. I WANNA say Fox no I. I have no idea all I know is. UPS Dr I think some cable network or something or maybe didn't get picked up. All I know is supposedly it's airing now or it's going to be airing. Hiring Takes Carol Unions character teams up with Jessica Alba. I don't know anything else about it. Though oh that's interesting I would watch on no. NO ONE IS B. O. They're both good actresses and I mean they both find his. How and I love Dark Angel Twenty years ago. Do Eh thirsty you hang on a second. Let me get a drink. I it looks like there could be some funny. Johny moments in it like the funniest part of the whole trailer is the very end when they're singing. The bad boys bad boys in wills like no no no. He's y'all Jawan never do that again. will or Martin's like what did you say. He was like yeah you know fucking lyrics and take a long time and remember and I was like battle last part. Maybe not so much but everything opened today. As far as I've seen I was like hey that's funny funny. I liked if I did. He got to captain happen to come back. the guy who plays Cypher animatrix that's all I can like pinpoint from it and he's been in a bunch of other shit but he's always going to be siphoned front of Matrix to do with the sole page okay you. You got comcast because you're down there right. Yeah okay. We got spectrum and apparently of here. Spectrum has like a streaming service of their own channel or something because that's what L. A.'s finest is on already aired one season and he got renewed for a second. Okay okay so I might have to look so. It's a new show. It's a new show but it is a spinoff of the bad boys two film right Right Real L. Union reprising her role. That's crazy about this like you. Don't make that ten years ago. It's been in the works along as well. You know our since October twenty seventeen so this is something that is like fucking fourteen years out like what would make them. Roy Roy do this unless it's because if memory serves me right bad boys was at least in post production or thought back then. Oh yeah no yeah because they kind of all came from the idea. We're going to make a third film. Well whatever we take these characters make a spinoff. Yada Yada right and the show wound up on on TV or streaming. It sounds like it's an online thing only but still the show which is a spin off of the second movie from sixteen years ago came out before to third film yeah the timelines weird unless it has something to do directly with part three tone. Pulo Mc you titus show in movie universe something like that. Is it just me guys and I mean I'm. I'M GONNA try to be mean because you know look father time comes for us aw but Marin looks just loaded tired and that old and heavy and I'm just like may because it was twenty because I'm to make the thumbnail for this I was like looking at images from the movie and I kept coming across like images from the second boys and then the first bad boys and I'm just like man time was not nice to you man because well looks like consistently the same like across all three movements and Martin. He looks pretty much similar into an is it's like it's a whole other person. I was like Jeez man. I mean maybe because he was depressing shit because you know he was kind of going through some he went through and I'm believe yes some shit going on with taxes two of them remember something going on with. Thanks but Martin Lawrence was always a comedian. I whereas mental be doing these serious dramatic roles. He's action flicks like this the nature of his film career he had to stay in shape too but he's always really been that kind of guy that was in shape. Oh yeah yeah yeah no but I mean I'm I'm more so because Martin's always been Kinda scrawny ing gangly. We see him so heavy now. You don't look anything like I didn't recognize him. At first. I was like Damn Days Martin like this is fucked up. It is too late. I'm already too far into the joke now. He is starting to be calm his character from big Momma's house when he was wearing fat so he is betrothed yeah so I told you it's too late already too far into the joke. Ah Hey man like we all got some about as we all like like I'm not perfect by no means anyway. The whole point was just that will looks looks like he's been at a time capsule. This whole time in Martin is just been living life in going about his day and I'm just like God. It's crazy like wills fifty something yeah Goddamn. I'll say I hope Alec Dagga next year when I'm fucking fifty. I'm sure you'll be fine. Dell because you don't even thirty hey I'll take fifty. Martin is fifty four okay so he's got a couple of years. Well then okay well. We'll we'll we'll. We'll take that into account as well. I want more thing before we often is. I'm disappointed because they did not even bother to make a new song for the movie like they just recycled song from bad boys two and just slowed it down and put a bunch of like drums. It didn't show we go in and I'm like y'all this song from this. Shaka tail feather like from Babbel as to like I I guess I just missed that part in this on in the trailer like especially towards the end when everything's blowing up and he's like jumping on a ladder and a helicopter some crazy shit and I was just light like y'all just reused shake a tail from you're like okay. I mean whatever I guess. I just WanNa know who asked for another bad. Oh boy film me. I did email. Morton needed the money to watch. 'EM ENT money. Honey have been waiting for a bad voice three forever. I mean hey hopefully as good I mean. They're making another rush hour. As far as I know so hey nationwide asks for Chris Tucker Chris Tucker Anti money. That's IT I mean I I. I watched it too yeah yeah but I I hope it's good though I mean I just hope they don't pull a dark phoenix and they go out with a thud instead of with the bank because it's like if they would stop making X. Movies after Logan Day would left on a high note but they just kept going and with this logan wasn't terrible but yeah Ben. Do we know when nisus coming out did. Did you catch it October. We do no no no no no. This is coming out in January I was. I thought it was the next year of October of next year okay. I I mean no no no. He's right right moving obedient seventeenth twenty twenty now for life. I do remember now because what made me worried about. This is because movies that traditionally come out in January February. Are I usually all that good true so we'll see though deadpool broke that though that that trend I mean deadpool came on Valentine's is Dan edited gangbusters so I mean we'll see all right moving on twenty five years since the first film was released. Shouldn't they be Liebau man by now probably about CDs would be more accurate welcome to Benoit's rabbit hole. 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If terrorists slash white supremacist hate group can raise money through a private companies platform full free is this what freedom looks like wake up sheep wool night sky that time again for America's number one show gum dumb shit of the week as right gumption to the weekend show he finds dumb shit. We talk about what your mission on the show find us on twitter at giant leap report or you can email us fish. Oziel G G MAIL DOT COM. Here's your host. Dj Molly Speaker take so dumb shit of the week in a few things first of all to whomever is trying to hack my game. Stop Account say no don't want trust me. I don't use it enough to do anything. No one uses no way the game stuff is like teetering on the edge of bankruptcy just like Huda. Maybe they just cash and whatever they can before the cool whatever for the studio your membership to Game Informer magazine and they finally get your trading credit so there you go okay so I just got a notification saying that my game stop account had been locked because of enact era too many attempts on suspicious active. I'm sitting in the middle of our recording studio yeah. I'm not on game stop. I'm not doing anything with more power to you. Okay so how wrong you remember a couple of weeks ago. When we had that ice cream licking challenge girl flicking ice cream in the grocery store and it spewed over into people licking lake at fast food restaurants there was a picture of a dude licken like fourteen hard? Taco shells in a row. Oh and he just started at the top and went down. A worker may be fire. Apparently we're back to spitting indoor licking food video across my feed the other day. This guy spits a giant lougee on this deep deep the deep dish pizza that he's making and he just goes about his business establishment. You can't see the logo on the guy's Shirt Oga casino boxes in the background the boxes the guy's got to all black uniform on with a little pizza on the corner. It'd be maybe a smaller. Perhaps perhaps still somebody's loading a little pizza. You can't really see the the label across the top but dude is too deep dish pizzas right in front of him and he is about to sauce them and blue rider. I didn't wine sauce it and keeps on going. Apparently this is the thing now so this is like the third or Fourth Report of somebody getting spit it in their food just in general yeah what you know what the only stop spitting in the fast food place. Please Fair Fair uh-huh because that's always been like A. I don't necessarily want to say his wives tale because I feel like he happened is a lot less than people believe happened sure because I worked at fast food. We never did shit like that. I don't know I worked in fast food and I used to have a guy that would not go to the bathroom and then he'd not washing hands okay. That's that's his trifling people and then deliberately like fucking food as a trifle. I had I had one girl. She worked at the same establishment that I was at and she had got her tongue pierced. Sushi took the tongs and was playing with her tongue ring with the tongs. Thanks and then went to use the tongs again to pull the Patty's off the grill so I believe the people are just nasty. Hell so that whole wives tale of Oh yeah yeah. They're gonNA spit on your food or whatever at the fast food restaurants. I I believe in that because I've I've seen some grow shit. I never did any of that because I don't want to be a consumer and get somebody's nasty germs but at the same sometimes I've seen it happen so the only time I could even see you using doing. It is if you were mad at somebody. Maybe being asshole to the drive through something like that. I wanted to like fight. Somebody working. Yes yeah she so. I could see that but just doing it because it's like hey. This is funny. I'm boy Y in the video you. It's only like a thirty five second video. You can't really there's no sound to it. Just you see the guy's face yeah you can see figure out who he is like trust. The Internet will hunt this motherfucker Dell. I'm sure and they will find out where he worked at. They will find why is facebook employer and they were like a side view but you could still figure it out. I just snatch. Oh Oh yeah well. Fuck is a reconstructed other side Paul. Well Paul's about to lose his job because he hawks a big olien pizza. Won't you do some show. I don't know I hate to push the video away like God. There was something over the video because it just kept looping and I was waiting for ah us to get to the part where I didn't lose the video and I had to cover it because it's just disgusting. I I will say this though to Paul's credit at least he did it before you put it in oven because hopefully cooked out any kind of bacteria whatever that was in his Spain now with the doe was already cooked but you said he put the bills. He had to put it back into oven right to melt the cheese alley. Yeah I mean is probably fine. Still Paul GonNa lose his job. He should so yeah. That is That's our dumb shit this week we to recap. We have people trying to hack my game. Stop and we have people hocken Louise in fast food the pizza so did like dumb shit. Come out of like a time machine this week. I feel like this is all like ninety shit. Stop you know what the spend spend a funny. What's funny is I was it was nice. It'd Be Funchal blockbuster yeah okay. It's actually funny that you mention that because I was debating debating doing like a throwback dumb shit this week couldn't find anything and then this just kind of doom shoot from it might have to go there next week but I don't know it. Just kinda fell in my lap so it worked out this this week in dumb shit history. At least we now live in the age where these idiots are so fucking stupid. They film themselves was doing the yeah. That's one thing I can say is. At least the dumb shit that we did is not on record. That's why I said man. Can we just go back to the fire. Challenge Ellen's like at that point. You were only hurting yourself. You know and you weren't like being like a menace to society like if you will fire. I feel like that's just Darwinism. Just working is great yeah the tide pause when one of those two because I thought because then only you are being hurt now. That's that's true. That's true yeah so word to the wise. Don't hack people share it and don't be a douchebag in spit on people's food. that can actually be a felony just so you know or if you're. GonNa hack some hack something that's relevant like don't fucking aim account right right right right these fucking fucking. God just lost it. It was the other thing that kids use talk on my Yahoo Messenger you you had aim yahoo. Msn Messenger a little older you got ICQ back in the day could change my internet explorer settings the girl at work that still uses Internet explorer she's like why is this going thumbnail. As soon as I open Ed fucking laptop for the first time like this shit on my desktop. Yes she's like why is this going so slow. I said first of all wins last time. He deleted your history my white white. I said Oh dear God. I said all you're using Internet explorer. I'm using white. Oh Dear God so cleared her history and set up chrome and she's like Oh shit this. This goes way faster. Try Yeah try. He's like you're basically using like the equivalent to like the Telegraph so let's say smart kids Let's stay smart kids. If you want your submission to be considered for dumb shit of the week you can send it to me either via the show's email which is official. Og Aleph G. at gmail.com or you can send it to me on twitter at froggy beaver yeah moving on trying to hide your game stop account. That's relevant relevant anymore. Just give him the password I resident evil his kind of like a Renaissance Right now oh the rookie to remake came out and that was from everything I've here at highly acclaimed from the gameplay footage I watched it looks fun and it's inevitable that once the remake of resin successful that one we are going to continue to get remakes of the other resident evil injuries because we already had the resident evil the original remake and now we're going to get residency a two and probably three and Nemesis Code Veronica the whole thing but resident evil used to be my favorite survival award game until it wasn't like Silent Hill was pretty high up there to resident evil was like my favorite and I liked it until it stop op being relevant horror like once it became more like action games and all these like quick time events and shit like come lost me because I'm just like well honestly I'm. I'm still so old school with resident evil where I still prefer the fixed camera. I don't like the over the shoulder camera I liked not knowing what's in a room because the cameras only show you one corner and you have to walk into it. Even though you know something's in there because you can hear it but you're right like all that like the limitations limitations just like with Silo Hill like the whole reason to game was so foggy and shit was because they didn't have the graphical power to render everything without looking chopping copy shitty so they made the field of view smaller by just putting fog everywhere but it was because limitations that made the game's unique in interesting and fun and after a while resident evil just kind of became just like damn near like on chartered with zombies pretty much like like these ball focuses the seeds and you're like jumping out of explosions. Wes Kerr becomes like fucking the winter soldier Super Soldier Serum Shit and it's just it's like okay what is happening. Don't get me started on a resident evil movies like the first round even if you're going to go there but every other resident evil movie after Geyer Galleries degrees of Shit my personal P I'll be. I don't know how big waffles maybe he likes. Resin even movies. You clearly don't like the other ones but person wasn't bad and you're like I don't want to speak for everybody would just look I personally like the resident evil luster kind of faded over time and I- according to this from what it looks like an trailer. We're probably getting something new for this franchise. Rich is but not really new in general so the trailer we see four the characters who basically look like they came out of like the breakfast club. Shit like you got like the jock with like the letter jacket on right and then you got like the dirty girl and she's wearing like a yellow sweater and glasses. He looks like Daphne Velvet say she did kind of well. Go Online and then you have the black guy and then you have like the misunderstood like kind of punk girl with eyeliner and eleven of not another teen eighteen movies and I'm like God. Damn like is parody games but notices. This is legit what he's GonNa look like I guess but they walk into this room and it looks like it's some kind of umbrella laboratory and here's a guy in another room watching him on cameras that he's hitting these switches and buttons. I'm the he's like releasing zombies like the Lakers come out and you're like killing them shit like that and in towards the very end of the trailer he puts these like VR gloves or some shit knitted needed Mr X. He's controlling him because his eyes turn red gloves red knowing okay so from where like playing a game inside sign of game right for from what I'm getting from this lengthy. It's gotta be like the Friday the thirteenth game or evolve or for what was the other one dead by daylight it looks like is going to be left for dead match but that is left for right but what I'm getting from the fact that that Guy's controlling Mr X. I'm getting. It's going to be a five player. Multiplayer game. Were four people are fighting against one other person. Who's controlling the boss because that's how fright their teeth is like you can play his Jason like other. People can play as a camp counselors or like evolve or you can play as the creature. You're in other people play as the military trying to kill you dead by daylights the same way like that's why I'm gleaming from it is that you're going to be able to control Mr X. or maybe a different boss from one of the other you know parts of the franchise and other characters will be trying to kill you and and you can swap out back and forth. I could be wrong but I mean that's Kinda like the going theory around Internet as well too is that it's looking like it's going got to be a game like that. which if it is? I'm Kinda bummed because I want it to be more like left for dead because I really really enjoyed a game like I'm. I'm really sad that we haven't got more LYFORD ED game boy. I mean this is the closest that I thought we were. GonNa get to it but I don't think it's going to be quite that now. We're the only one that was getting like a very doctor or claw when you saw those gloves from a song playing in my head. I'm thinking like inspector gadget a oppressed let in I love left for dead the community unity at least for the the PC versions of Leifer debt is still very active in the modern also you can still play and have a lot of fun going through Shaimaa but all all I got out of this was left for dead. That's all I could think of which I'm not saying. That's a bad so I I. I hope it is implemented right in. It looks good. I think it could be phenomenal. Do I wish there were more or less yes because I I've always said even back when I was playing Razzie with tools like this'll be really fun if you play with Clare and Leon at the same time. I'm like coop even back then I was like they should do a multiplayer resident evil game and all the other installments they always have like two or more protagonists but they almost never do multiplayer like they've had a couple of resident evil multiplayer games. I think it was one of my resident evil outbreak in something else like umbrella something. I don't know but they were pretty sure like Spin Offs in Alec Main Title. Oh entries and they were on like you know like the DS or some. Shit like that you know like a hand held console and I like the main consoles but they they released his trailer and they're supposed to be showing the game in some Gameplay at the Tokyo game show this week but as of yet as a recording this we haven't gotten any more information so hopefully what's that cubs our show that at the presentation we'll have more formation what exactly this game is but he just from the little cinematic though it looks like it could be cool like regardless of is more innovative outbreak or outlast or if it's. I'm more in the vein of left for dead. I I either way like I just WanNa. Get get another good resident. Evil Game like I wanNA actually gave I wanNA legitimate Zombie survival horror yeah right midas the explosions and like superhuman powers and all that Kinda Shit though I am curious if if if I ever I end it is more like lake dead by daylight or something like that then I would like to be able to play as other bosses Sir Resident Evil Games as opposed to just ex- that'd be cool like if you could be like say Albert White Right Right Right Wester or Williams burkey resident evil two or Alexia Ashford from a Code Veronica Idiom or Davis. It's like that would be so if it is going to be like did by daylight. Shit like that kid troll the boss as a separate player then. Ed Give me like all the bosses that we've ever had the resident evil in and our choices yeah that'd be cool. I think that would be dope but yeah no like. I said they're going to be showing it at the Tokyo game. Show this week so we will see what happens and I'll give you an update next week. Sounds good to me all right. I I can't fuck it breath moving Mazda. You have to get over the fixed cameras thing resident evil. Stop doing not decades ago. It's not coming back doc for our final thing this week. We're going to do some special a we are going to give a live quote unquote so to speak trailer reaction to you. A little movie called the reliant. This is an indie project a faith based film starring Kevin Sorbo. He's he's in a lot of faith based films. You know we're GonNa talk about that because I knew he was in that movie. God's not dead but after finding out about this kind of Duggleby into what he's been delaying it. I'm like Oh. This is a trend okay so so so yeah. Let's see I. I didn't make the connection when Ben said it earlier off. Mike Are Maybe on Mike. Maybe either way. Ben Said something earlier and I didn't make the connection and I was like Yeah He. He's he's in quite a few he. He has a whole nother resurgence to his career. This is the Sore Boa Science. That'll yeah that'll work as well. Oh God no don't kick Ivana San's that Boris on sports on that sounds like something that come out of the X. Men Ryan sounds like some food some Chinese food. Yeah okay so so yeah so so we're going to watch this and we're going to react to it and we're going to dissect it and talk about it. Okay so you already been three two one play marriage not easy delighting Konczal Hutton a white nationalist nationalist rise. Is that what this is about no no no. Don't you get it. When the left takes your guns away then the whole world the country's GonNa just fall apart or these supposed to be government people attacking no no this is like antiques or some shit because all I see is a bunch of white people shooter the people that makes me think the KKK the NRA's going crazy okay. We got a black woman in this movie so it's not what they have to stop a Jesus music video of it. Oh she has like Bonier only like the hunger games I thought thou shall not kill exactly uh-huh hunger games this bridezilla hardcore rightwing that do got some chiseled as I think y'all are missing joining this movie here which is having decided yet but I think y'all missing it crime. Oh He's a doctor's surgery. That's typical for him and then he's got like an essay rifle catas- and aw in bows you know this looks like it would be a low budget like Stephen King TV remove what Jesus they can pull a bullock rely relying on Jesus better show up. Oh Man Oh oh man okay. You know it's funny because that is actually concede. There's a few different versions of this. This is actually not the one that I saw uh. There's a different cut this trailer and it's like it has like some like titles that pop up throughout and it says like when the Second Amendment is outlawed. The only people who have guns are the outlaws because they don't actually tell you in this this trailer what's happening. Ray and the other one that I saw it's it's the economy has collapsed and the government has banned guns in the country and so there's there's all these riots and civil unrest and Shit and his family like Kevin Sorbo them near like in the driveway and you're talking and hear gunshot in the suburbs. That's in our neighborhood. Get everyone in the car like explosions retract my previous statement that in the economy collapsed well they don't explain in in. That's got your milk right in my throat. I got that in my notes to synopsis. On is this economic collapse causes widespread rioting in social unrest leaving a love sick nineteen year old girl struggling to care for her siblings in a stretch of woods bordered by lawless anarchy. Wondering wondering why a good God would let this happen so you got we're hitting. OUGHTA quadrants turns here okay. We got the tarts. Okay we got the the Second Amendment people and we got the Christians so we hit all the quadrants at one little movie. You know what this is obvious propaganda for one but what this is is rush limbaugh and Tucker Carlson had a baby and that baby had a night terror and that night terror became reality. It would be this movie because this that was really yeah. Thank you thank you bigger work. Kevin Bacon because this is like our boat. I should say right there this every like Fox and friends or Tucker Carlson like conservative talking point of Oh. They're going to take our guns away and is going to be another civil war in this that and the other Yadda Yadda Yadda and it's like okay so in one hand. We're trying to say that the left wants to Bain guns because we don't like guns but we're going to take your guns and then shoot you with them because that's basically what does movies trying to say. He's like well. Have you guns way then all of these these these tea folks the folks are GonNa come in and start killing are they. Though is like it it's like I said it's obvious propaganda it is it's it's so bad I too badly acted is badly written like the soundtrack was terrible. It's really weird. It shot like most Christian films do do. It's acted like most. Christian films are in the soundtrack is like most Christian films. Come out to be not that. I'm saying that there's anything wrong. TRICIA films right right. We're not just knocking on this because there are a number of Christian movies that are are linked my absolute favorite sure love Rudy. No you said it hits all the quadrants but you only named the three of them. Oh Yeah I did. I guess Middle America White People quadrant the suburb. Yes you got the Second Amendment People. Oh you got the Christians you got the Conservatives and you just got the white suburban like voted for trump because I was scared of voting for Hilary technically. That's all one category sorry but yeah. I'm still trying to figure out like the basis of this film. Okay the government collapses civil unrest unrest people obviously try to rebel people who have the means to try to take over and I get that that again in films and stories before you're I need a better explanation in. I need to know how God is supposed to fix. Oh because in the end in the end there must be a happy happy ending otherwise whole idea of having faith means nothing. I got it what what ending of the then it's not going to be about. God restoring normalcy. It's going to be about God restoring the faith because ninety percent of these Christian movies. That's that's how it is. It might not end with good like it'll end with a oh I was lost now on found kinda message not necessarily the situation has changed just I I learned how to look at my outlook on it and whoever is the atheist or and or or like non-believing person in the movie is GonNa either die or have something bad happen. You say it's actually funny that you mentioned that. Cause Kevin Sorbo is an atheist. One of them is not doing in God and then he finds God as he's dying but but we need an empirical resolution to get closer in a story. That's how a narrative work. These mother fuckers are taking faith. They're they're. They're they're forgetting. This is one thing to have faith in a nice size but you're gonNA take it into a medium where they may. I don't know obviously we haven't seen the sure they're gonNA take it into a medium where they're going to complete his deconstruct the entire actual. We'll build of a narrative in Faulk with that too. I'M GONNA get all how it almost. I almost want to see this movie too so I can hell no no. I want to say morbid curiosity as well because I'm like I know is going to be bad but sometimes I just like to watch bad things. Have some laugh at and you know because like I said it's obvious propaganda. I mean this is like shooting for light lowest common denominator denominator like either people who are like probably Alex Jones listeners and or older boomers who are just scared of anything that didn't come on sixties and it's just like Oh these these colored folks these young kids and they're all crazy and protest initiatives like didn't your generation rations start on his protests and shit. y'All focus was like protests and light military soldiers in Washington and Shit. These kids is like protested only college campus because they don't want Milo Yiannopoulos dumb ass saying stupid shit so it's like I the disconnect there is always fascinating to me because I'm like the whole idea of the bleeding liberal dates back to like the sixties during the civil rights and women's lead. That's what they call. People who wanted women have rights who want to black people happy all separate but right right right when whenever you hear somebody used that term her top to liberals as if the negative and that Kinda tation it's usually because the liberals rules are doing something. That's right it like I'll be right. Correct like ethically sound morally sound progressive in nature in lucid. I live right exactly. It's funny too because like watching stuff like this is like it gives you like a window into how these people think like the country is or like what the other side is like like they legit. Some some of these people legitimately believe like you know that in the left is just trying to take their guns away or take country part of we hate America or you know we're we're trying to to do a white genocide or some shit and it's just like they legitimately believe and it's like when I see movies like this where it's just like back. They're not even dog whistling day like screaming this shit they're like hey it saddens me because I'm like these people. ooh Like have made whole industry off of fearmongering. They're not making movies like this is just propaganda like the whole point of this is just you scare. The people like it's not trying to tell a story. It's trying to freak you. The fuck out say well they need to do that. Because people who are complaisant or comfortable Lincoln do anything they need to scare others into action because people don't do anything if they don't feel the need you to do it and I know we're talking like in a religious writings but depending upon the context in which we're talking about fearmongering that can be the epitome of career village this idea that people want something which in some way is gonna hinder what you have or because they're different from you. They must want to stop you from having what you have true which in all reality is not the case as Most people generally want to avoid the crazy right yeah. Most people don't thrive in crazy actually very very few people actually do well and enjoy the chaos and it's it's it's a disconnect between that sect of right wingers that sect of Libertarians who are more left in the sense that if if you don't want to be religious that's cool but don't try to impose your religion upon us in kind of fucked up how some of those people think that it is is their. God given duty to impose upon us and if we don't adhere to what they think we are art different or trying to end out. I'm going to go off on a tangent here. 'cause I've dealt with Shit like this and it resonates a little bit with me. Can I'm going off the rails. We're just talking about a dumb fucking movie. Oh no no no no no no. I know what you mean and I mean in like my my my biggest takeaway from ness minus the the obvious propaganda messaging in this and you know these people basically just game and people into being afraid to get day movie tickets and Shit and people will like show this shit in churches in Sunday school and Shit like that this could happen. This is why we got an innocent man. It's it's sad but what really disappointed in is I'm disappointed in Kevin Sorbo you laugh but I am Kevin Sorbo. I'm disappointed because I trusted you okay. I looked up to you. I grew up with you now. Look at you like you were Hercules man. I saw you xena Warrior Princess. Whoop as for many many seasons growing up. You're like a hero to me like a Saturday morning special Ed and you fell off the face of the earth for years and then you come back in literally every single thing he does now is faith based or faith-based adjacent movies like he's found get some actors Kgo TV. They we do smaller roles. I do indies stuff. Maybe not big studio movies. I get it but I already on TV and doing stuff rile. He drops it. Maybe he believes in this show. Maybe not not in the face but I mean maybe he believes in the messages that the movies are doing. Maybe he thinks he's doing a oposite like I. I don't feel that you can't make a mainstream movie and not have a religious message in it. I just feel like it doesn't need to be overt and it. It doesn't need to be like sanctimonious it at the same time necessarily feel like if you're GonNa make a hardcore faith-based movie the worst like no this the whole point is movies say message. It doesn't have to be bad like you can make a good movie insulting saying so. There's plenty of them out there like I said did. I am have several faith based movies that are I'm very fond of. What's what's so crazy to me about is. I don't know if they didn't cut him some kind of special check or hey. I found a niche in orphanages work the hell out of this year. It's probably what it is but this is what he's working on between we now and twenty twenty okay okay so we have to rely obviously we have of miracle in east. Texas the penitent thief the pastor the mustard seed poison sky one nation under God the faith under fire Bernie the Dolphin to fuck that is nights in which is a show and the legend of cat claws mountain and Hunter's. Here's moon rising and finally devotion so just off the titles I can pretty much guarantee over half of those movies are faith based movies the burning the dolphin to maybe selection but but I don't know often free willy with Jesus in it and really went Bernie's face like God. That's horrifying he. Kevin Sorbo is one of those guys who let's be real he he claims to event ostracized in Hollywood because of his real okay so then he okay so the yearly belly of others because I wasn't sure where he's extent. I mean obviously honestly. I don't know what he's been through. There's a couple of scenarios that seem plausible because I know they've been able one. Maybe he pulled like a straight up Kirk Cameron and tried to get self righteous put his spin non shit that he's involved with and alienated himself because I mean if you've ever read up or watch the history of growing pains when Kirk Cameron became a born again Christian he wielded a massive amount of influence on that show so he did that and got himself and he was a fucking star to the dude played on Hercules for years and then went to she went on about that is a big. Doodoo probably doesn't have the biggest rains. He probably got tight can you. Let's be real a lot. A lot of people probably didn't have a lot of faith in him because of his religion but because of his Kevin Sorbo disability or what they know him as either Hercules or the captain from the drama shows also in I I have no idea of his personality 'cause. I never really necessarily hurt anything better out him but look at his. I guess contemporary temporary during that time period you had Hercules you had Zena. What is Lucy lawless really able to do because between me being in a kid a teenager watching Zena. I didn't see her again until like Euro. Trip came out well she yes she hasn't been in movies but she was in and that Spartak his show on showtime yeah she was on that for a bit but how long few years now about ten years ago as we value yeah she's doing like ash versus the evil dead of that sure sure but you know you're right her career kind of petered out to where she was probably bobby just doing conventions more than actual roles in anything like. I'm not so quick to jump against him saying that he got banished for Christianity but given the nature of things he's been doing in like I have a reason to think. He probably brought a lot of that stuff. I feel like a lot of times when people say that should that's the case is that they were pushing their beliefs in front of people's faces and making them like make decisions based around like oh well well you know not. I'm born again Christian. You know I don't want to do scenes where I have to kiss somebody in the mouth or I don't want to give this messaging because it goes against my whatever whatever then that's when you become problematic like no one gives a shit in. I'm sure no one gives a shit in Hollywood. Whether you're Christian Muslim view Tibet monk they'd like as long as they don't interfere with filming could give a fuck like to be honest and don't be no juice exactly exactly like a problem that you can believe if you want to pray to you'll Siamese cat knock yourself spaghetti this Hollywood mogul people do all kinds of crazy shit going to what you said. This movie and films like this is meant for a select few. It's meant for the already hard core religious people it will only really be watched by them or by some of US yeah people ironically in this winds up being like a cult classic for how ship it winds up being in my prediction. Eh this winds up being. Oh Yeah I'm holding out no hope but but it doesn't matter if you're in television on film read books whatever the General Populace Bolus the average Hollywood viewer doesn't WanNa be preached to if you want to believe in whatever you want believe keep that shit to yourself and and that is that the point you believe what you it's internal to you. You're believe whatever have that's all something that's between you and and whomever it is or whatever it is exactly exactly. It's like you have the right to believe what you want to believe and I have the right to not have to hear about this shit. That's that's what that that's what bothers me. Oh yeah the minute people start saying if they believe in their outspoken about it. Okay cool you bro but the minute you start like bringing that to me telling me preseason the me getting self righteous to me. That's we got the problem and I feel like a lot of times these hardcore Christians especially like the Kirk Cameron's or maybe him in this case the minute they come to somebody else and try to do something in that other persons like. WHOA hold up now. Oh they suddenly get on the defensive as if you hate them and you stopped yeah. It's like you're suppressing me like no. I just don't WanNa hear about it but it's it's. It's sad to see where Mr Hall's career has ended up but I will probably thoroughly enjoy watching this movie. It's not for the reasons that they want but still I will get some enjoyment out of it that being said though that is for the show remember. You can always find us at our home. One giant LEAP FOR GEESE GIESSEN DOT COM. 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Pop Culture Cosmos #182- Celebrating Black Influence In Pop Culture With The Guys From Voice From The Underground!

Pop Culture Cosmos

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Pop Culture Cosmos #182- Celebrating Black Influence In Pop Culture With The Guys From Voice From The Underground!

"Thanks for listening to the Pop Culture Cosmos and the PCC multi-diverse checkup more great podcast. Today on one of these awesome affiliate networks. You're listening to a GEEKS network. Podcast you're listening. Eso Network Your station for all things you tangible network check it out tangible network DOT com. Listen to this. Show the latest episode every time a proud member of the Geek Network. The opinions expressed are those of each individual. Check out all the other. Geeky podcast over it. GonNa Geek Network Dot Com and get ready because deaconess begins in three. Two one will parker asthma. Alright I we're back once again with the POP CULTURE COSMOS GERALD. Coming right back here cannot thank you for listening and I tell you what this is something. I've been wanting to go ahead and talk about for quite some time although I'm not GonNa do much very much the talking. I'm just going to be immoral. Listen and learn and and hopefully better understand what's going on as far as pop culture but from a black influence side because it is black history month and it's something that I want to know more about always I wanna know about all these different cultural influences in our society and how they affect pop culture both from past present and future standpoint. And I've got two guys here on today to come out as my guests and you've heard the many times on our show before but you could never hear them enough. They're great guys from the voice from the underground they do have to deal with Jason Dutch though. That is part of the problem right there. But it's still an outstanding show. Indeed it is. Worse from the underground the podcast. He's GonNa kill me next time. He's on the era of the boys. From the underground the PODCAST. You gotTA check out today on all major podcast platforms first off big hoss and Haas just cannot think on it to be here on it to be here man doing good. And it's my honor to have you on the show especially so you can not only help myself but also everyone out there that wants to learn and understand more about the influences and everything going on within black culture four pop culture and it's just going to be a great conversation. I'm looking so forward to it but you also cannot have another great show like this without a good friend as well. He's also from from the underground but he also tag teams with me on the Lakers. Fast-break Hall took off. Are you pause? E TAG team to tech tagging it is TJ Johnson Man TJ again. Always a pleasure having you on you know what man be g whistle breath. Are You doing man? I'm doing well. It's actually here in Vegas. Been raining for once got to see some rainbows out here so a little bit better for us. We're always worried about if it gets too dry out here but enough mytalk. I want to hear from you guys. I especially if you're backgrounds you know going back to even when you're much younger. I I mean I have my influences when I grew up. Come home from school. The cartoons Saturday morning TV everything from pro wrestling cartoon movies and televisions that I saw comic books and things slice law when I was growing up. That helped influence and shape the way. I was today in pop culture and how I see things but I want to hear from your standpoint because this is again and I appreciate you guys. Allow me on. I mean we talked about this. No one to turn the show entirely over to you but you guys were so gracious law. Meet to go ahead and spend some time with you on this hustler. Start with you first your background as far as what? You WanNa talk about what influences you had early on. That helped shape your love for pop culture. Well I think that for me it was my family you know. We love watching. Tv shows. We Love Music. We love movies. I mean growing up in the Stevenson Collins Household. You know it was not not rare at all to have a Saturday where we pop down to the local video store and literally by twelve movies and Saturday morning. We gone by twelve movies and we watch movies into the early hours of the Sunday morning. Two three o'clock in the morning. We're watching movies. We go to sleep. We wake up again. We have breakfast and then we started all over again at twelve o'clock and we watched the rest of those movies. So as far as pop culture's concerned music movies TV shows fashion comics. What type of I mean what? Exactly what shows really? Just you connected with or movies or fascists any K-. That again was very eclectic. Now let me let me tell you something that you know. Of course we watched the cosby show and good times and the Jeffersons but we also watched dynasty and Falcon Crest and one life to live and general hospital. So you know my grandmother used to. We'd be watching dynasty. She like okay. This is how you need to dress you know. Look at Look at Blake Carrington. That's how you want address and sue. Tell my daughters my. I'm sorry my my sister's look at how Diane Carroll is dressed in this in this show in on Falcon Crest. Same things should be pointing out the best dressed and You know when we watch the COSBY show. We talked about education important school the points of school in the importance of family and the lessons you know it was always a a running review of everything and we would watch fat. Albert and when we talk about comics and in black superheroes you know one of the first black superheroes that I knew in related to and look up to was the Brown Hornet from from Fat Albert. You know the Brown Hornet and in power man. Who was you know Luke Cage where my two favorite heroes coming up? So that's Kinda how my background got started when it comes to fat Albert. That was something I absolutely loved when I was a kid is Wa. I mean that was something bill cosby. I understand his current issues aside and thinks he's done to slot put it in perspective of that show. And how it like you. I was a big fan of that show as well as far as not only from just the fact that it was just a good show created. Great narratives great storylines and you wanted to follow what the kids were doing each and every week when you're watching it right. Dj Hop on you. My friend were some of the influences for you when you were younger. And and how that helped shape your love for pop culture. Oh my goodness. I don't know if we have enough time for the things that I was in. We are reminded by seven eight nine and ten obviously am a little bit younger than you guys. So let's get the elephant out the room. There are some shows that you guys mentioned that. I don't know about about any this. Show that someone shows is mentioned but I did grow up on. Cosby'S I did grow up on family matters in the fresh prince so that was started my love of of Oh and then in good times I did watch quite a bit of good times and living single that that was my that was my jam. Martin of like that. That was all my gym that was my forte in living color thing. I'm trying to tell you as one to one of the best shows people didn't talk about but it was criminally underrated. That was because of the not again. It goes back to the talk about what the cosby show it. Emulated just quality televisions Fars from a comedic standpoint. Because the cast you saw there you just saw the brilliance of all those individuals and at that time they were faring much more from a quality standpoint than what. Snl was doing at that point in time absolutely absolutely end they were also not as well known. I mean you know. Everyone's it was one of the ones that originated the putting his family owned even just put on one. He put his whole squad on Daymond to. What's what's the what's this is Marlon Sharon and Shai sister. Kim Kim like Jim Wayne's all let me put his whole squad on this kind of beginning and in fact that's what I'm saying John and not only were they all talented but he was able to locate other talent as well. Obviously Jim Carey comes to mind but there were so many other individuals mixed in there even when it comes down to the Jaylo factor with their contributions to the shows while he was able to see these things. Keenen Ivory Wayans. I'm talking about was able to see as far as from a producer standpoint all these different great personalities from all these different backgrounds that were able to contribute to this. This awesome show absolutely absolutely and I know what all the ones that I mentioned before like. I only watch black television but actually so I really that just I but I need to be able to paint my my my palate. My I need to explain my palate So it goes further than that. I actually grew up. Believe it or not Nick Knight. So you're Dobie Gillis's years. Nobody else was the joint troops. I D- removed. Your that. Was that was more of a Fox or I dream of Gomer. Gomer pyle anything that was on anything that was on syndication with nick at nite. Get smart all that stuff is love is love gift. Smart like the idea of going to telephone booth and you'd went down and now he didn't even talk about Inspector Gadget ask a Gi Joe Right right right Chinatown you man. So we're talking about cartoons. I'm taking it back to he man. I'm taking the cats. I'm Sheera I'm thinking back to Jim. I was in the gym too. I thought Jim was awesome. Gymnast Yeah Man. I remember that theme song but I'm not going to sing it. Both point is balancing galactically house Dr Galactica Star Trek the next generation like all of the Next Generation Stadium Yup Star Gates dairy journeys. Yeah I was up on the first star Trek. So that's how old I on these. I'm like man I'm talking about Jim. We not only myself for the first ritual runs you but I am old enough to. When it first started in reruns I will say I'm with Haas on that one on Star Trek but yes you're right but it comes to all the different things from JEM and the Holograms Star Trek. The next generation than evolved into deep space nine voyager and enterprise. Just these great influences. You haven't when you saw what was going on on screen. Tj was that something that that got you going to say. Hey I can go and like these things from all these different backgrounds and that helps define who I am as a person who I guess it. Depends you asking the teacher that was watching it or are you asking TJ now because TJ has watched. My I had no clue I was watching. Tv You know so. I just I didn't look at it as a white t versus black TV. I don't think I was just TV to me. I mean I was the one that I was confused. I thought they were Michael Jackson's saying so I didn't have that concept in regards to you know. I'm watching Martin. I'm watching black television. These people that looked like me. I just looked at Mars ores lors. I didn't look at it. Like black and white at that point so now you fast forward to the benefit of Beijing fast forward as thirty five year old man that type of stuff I I appreciate the fact that I wasn't just strictly watching this. I was able to have Expand my palate. If you will be able to watch things like Dobie Gillis things like you know what I mean like I. I appreciate that because I quiet as kept. I learn a little bit of game from Dobie Gillis They'll be Gilson's quite a ladies man back in the sixties seventies. So I I learned that happy days I I learned how to be cool like the fines like it is what it is man. You take bits and pieces of different characters that you see. He tried to not necessarily incorporate them into you but take certain aspects of their personality. And say you know that's pretty cool. I wonder if I can do that or if. I wonder if I can do that do that. So obviously at some point you become whomever you're going to be you know but I I appreciate not being relegated to just. The black shows not being relegated to just cartoons and being relegated to just you know things that people feel like the world paint me out as to someone asks you something I should watch. I didn't just watch Eddie Murphy Raw I I did watch it. But that wasn't all that I ever watched. I watched Chris Tucker or Martin Lawrence so you know it was. It was a click. Watch Garryowen's you know. I'll Gary on his great man. I like Sinbad. You know some bad ride him between both of them. I don't know he's still playing today. So symbolise how yellow self everybody hair crew if you're ninety and you're still have a pulse and you still have a name. You can play somewhere in Vegas absolutely man. That's great to hear I mean from both you know that it wasn't just wrong from one area that you guys were just watching like you said programs and listening to music and enjoying things in your life just because they were so appealing to you no matter what type of background is. That's great to hear how that later on in life that you guys enabled to go ahead and reflect on that how that helped you guys. Like for instance on your show voice the underground you're able to go ahead and draw back on those memories that you have from that age when you were watching so much television listen music and things of that nature and and and draw those good memories from it. So that's awesome to hear that you're listening to the pop culture cosmos. Don't touch that. Dial we do. People still use dials. Hey Listener here from voice from the underground the PODCASTS MICHAELS and I want to invite you to check out our little corner of the podcast verse at Voice from the underground we talk about all the crazy happening around us and try to make a little bit of sense are the nonsense with little to no results if the idea of hearing three semi intelligent outspoken nerds talk about politics social issues current events sports movies pretty much anything that we decide to talk about because well it's our show appeals to you grab your shoveling down in the underground and then Consulta qualified psychotherapists finest wherever you get your podcast. Just not where you buy your wheat from the underground now. We get into a point where I wanNA talk to you guys about. What's coming up now? Or what is apparent now as far as from a black cultural standpoint because it is something that is very prominent now in pop culture. About how is it represented and what needs to be done going forward. But I'll start from present standpoint. Let's say since the turn of the century since the two thousand came about so I ask you Haas. You know as you got older as you became more big Hoss for yes. Yeah what was it like in shape as far as maybe the late nineties early two thousands going into that as far as he became more aware of what was going on. And you want it. Your tastes may have fluctuated. One way or another veered one way or another. And how that shaped your I guess your imprint on what you think. As far as pop culture is considered. I think that you just flow for me. I just became you know as I got old