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"And again, Paul said in Romans one, being understood by the things that are made, things do not make themselves. Think about how vain evolution is. Things do not make themselves. Even his eternal power and God has to live without excuse. So he's 17 verse 22, he's on Mars Hill speaking to the philosophers of the Greek culture. And he's addressing the unknown God in verse 23, the end of verse 23 whom therefore he ignorantly worship him, declare I unto you. I'm going to declare unto you the unknown God that you're ignorantly worshiping God. Notice how he starts this, that made the world and all things that are in, oh, he starts with creation. Guess what? That's how we have to start in America who's been taught evolution. God got to go back to our creator, by the way, our son Ryan gave me one of their tracks that they have yesterday. And it's all about creation and it goes right into the gospels. I haven't read it in detail yet, but I'm looking forward to possibly getting some of those. God that made the world and all things that are in, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth dwelleth not in temples made with hands. By the way, the Greek temples and so on were within sight of this, this Mars Hill. Neither is worshiped with men's hands as though he needed anything. Seeing giveth to life, to all life and breath and all things. And notice then drop down to verse 30. The times of, in fact, he talks at the end of verse 29, he says, we ought not to think that the Godhead, by the way, that's a word that Paul uses in Romans one, that the Godhead, the triune Godhead is like unto gold or silver or stone graven by art or man's device and man's device. The times of this ignorance God winked at, but now commandeth, notice commandeth all men everywhere to believe, is that what your Bible says? To repent, the command is to repent, they will not believe until they repent. Because they have to repent of their wickedness, their unbelief, all of that kind of stuff. Because he hath appointed a day, this is the great white throne judgment, he hath appointed a day into which he will judge the world in, here's that word again, Romans one, righteousness. The key word in the book of Romans is righteousness. By that man whom he hath ordained, whereof he hath given assurance unto all men in that he raised him from the dead, of course, then they start mocking. Can I remind you Revelation 20 tells us right there that God will find all those who have not placed their faith in Jesus Christ, obedience to the faith, says they will be cast into a lake of fire forever and ever, which is the second death. All men will be without excuse. No one will say to God at the great white throne judgment, but I didn't know. No, no, no, they had creation and they had conscience, telling them that there was a God they needed to look for, seek after. How many people at the great white throne judgment will stand there before a holy God someday? How many? How many of them will say, but I prayed a prayer. No, they're going to realize that day, they did not place their only faith and trust in the finished work of Jesus Christ. All men are without excuse, the Bible very clearly says that. In fact, what I think is interesting as we finish this up here at the end of verse 20, being understood by the things that are made even as eternal power and Godhead. In fact, Isaiah talks about God's power. No one, no God compares to God and His power. This goes back to verse 16, it's the power of God unto salvation, His eternal power and Godhead. Within their very being, God shows them there is a triune God. So when these oneness Pentecostals and all of them, when they start talking about there's one God, Jesus, and He's shown Himself three different ways, that's heresy. Deep down in their hearts, if they would recognize it, according to scripture, they know that's heresy. If that's the case, we have a schizophrenic God. I'm sorry, I don't have a schizophrenic God, do you? Because this God talks to Himself. God the Father talks to Jesus, God the Son. He did at His baptism. God the Holy Spirit is not this force from God. He's a person, there's three persons and the one Godhead. I've heard of all kinds of ways to explain the Trinity. You know, it's an apple, the peeling, all of those things, all of those things. No, no, it's like three forms of what? No, no, that's essence. That is not a person. There's three persons in the Godhead. Notice here the Godhead, that's the word I like using for the Trinity now. That's what the Bible uses. In fact, Paul even mentions the Godhead back in Acts 17, remember? It's not, he's not worshiped with man's art. Ah, stand before the Jesus statue. This long haired hippie Jesus, that's art. Man's art. God is not worshiped that way. Some Buddha statue. Some Hindu God. What I think is very interesting is in Hinduism, they have all these millions of gods, but they have three primary gods. Why? Because deep within their nature, they know there's a Godhead with three persons. Of course, the Mormons corrupt that. Gods. We all can become a God. Have our own planet and our own family someday. The Godhead, the triune God. It's very interesting in the Old Testament, it talks about singular and plural pronouns used for God. The Bible very clearly says there is a triune Godhead to whom we're going to give an account someday. The gospel. Can I emphasize strongly, strongly today? The gospel is very clearly presented to us in 1 Corinthians 15. The death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I'm keeping the 10 commandments to get to heaven. Sorry. Sorry. Can you list them? People can't even list them that are trusting that I'm trying to be a good person to get to heaven. How many times I have heard people preached into heaven. You knew, you knew, and any believer would know, they're absolutely not trusting in Jesus Christ. Yeah, they're in heaven today, all the good things, no, no, no, no, they're in hell today. Just like the rich man who was a Jew. In Luke 16. He would have been a religious rich person, a Jew, and hell lit up his eyes. Why? Because he didn't repent, the end of the chapter. I got wet, church of Christ, I had somebody sprinkle me, pour water on me. All of these things are not ways of salvation. They're not the gospel. Paul even says, God did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel. So let me ask you today, are you trusting in Jesus Christ and him alone as a way of salvation? Not a prayer that you said, all of that, all of that set aside all of those manmade things. Because the bottom line is when you stand at the great white throne judgment someday, God the father is going to ask, in fact, Jesus Christ is going to be the one on the throne. Remember God has committed that judgment to Jesus Christ, the righteous. The question is going to be asked, the books are open. The question is going to be asked, what were you trusting in? Who were you trusting in for eternal life? No one's going to say, they're going to be without excuse. No one's going to say, no one's going to say, but I never knew. No, they had creation, they had conscience. God revealed it, manifested it in them. Everyone knows inside, whether they've been to public school, the university or not, they know that there's a God. Lord, I pray that you'd help us examine our own hearts. Holy Spirit, help us examine our hearts here today. Has everyone here today, Lord, has everyone here? Place their faith in Jesus Christ and Him alone. What Jesus Christ has already done. It's not good works, it's not keeping the law, Paul emphasizes that in Romans. Now baptism, none of those things will save. Repeating a prayer, Lord, I pray that you'd help, help each one to examine their hearts here. Holy Spirit, help us remember that unless we've placed our faith in Jesus Christ, been obedient to the gospel, as Paul says, we have thy wrath, God, upon us, not thy love. Holy Spirit of God, bring application, Lord, help us as believers, help us to believers as believers to check our gospel presentation. We're messing with people's eternal souls. God, forgive us for lack, actually showing a lack of concern in how we present the gospel in Jesus' name. Amen.
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"Now, response first 32, when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked. Now why does that make sense based on what we've studied? What did I teach you really briefly about the stoics and the epicurean philosophers? They did not have a developed eschatology regarding what happens after life. Matter of fact, they were pretty clear about it's not going to be a conscious awareness after life. So don't worry about that. It's about the here and now and the epicureans and the stoics had different views on that and how you should make the most of this life. But the idea was don't worry about having to answer to someone afterwards. That's not the picture they had. So they heard it with their conditioning and some of them mocked. You know what that means, right? Ridiculed, laughed, rolled their eyes. Others, though, middle of our 32. They said, we all hear you again about this. They'd like to hear some more. But it was over for now, so Paul, went out from their midst. But some, here's the third response, join him and believed, right? I'm no longer going to be with this group, at least what they're teaching. I'm not going to be with your group and what you're teaching, even though there's no group here, Paul is here with a skeleton crew within he and they say we're going to follow Christ. We're going to believe what he says. We're going to do what he says. That's big. And they trusted, they believe, we've got repentance. We have faith. We've got joining in with this new form of teaching. Among them also were dionysius, the areopagite. Wow, that's a business card there. Dionysius the areopagite. Now don't forget where we are. We're in this council of Athens. They were known as the areopagus, airy, Ares, Mars, pagos, and Greek hill, Mars hills, what you're used to hearing sometimes the old King James translation. Marcel, that's what this is, but they're not at Mars hill, which is just outside of the marketplace. The Agora, they are in probably the marketplace. And one of the big columned porticos, porches, and they are part of this council. Well, here's a guy that's a part of the council. You can look at it that way. Dionysius is a part of the council. That's a big wig. That's one of the experts. One of the philosophers, one of the professors of the university of Athens, he says, I'm going to become a Christian. I'm going to repent. I'm going to join you guys. I'm going to believe. That's huge. That's why he's named and also a woman Daenerys, named navares damaris, who's Daenerys. I don't know, but she's important, just like we've seen Lydia and others in bria and in Tesla nica and back into the previous chapter in philippi, we know that he's naming people that have significance and importance in some high status in town.
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"Felt it was just a vanity project about Driscoll. And how wonderful is it? It's been a little Bible study that grace and I started in our living room 15 years ago. Now is this great, glorious evidence of Jesus resurrection. If Jesus is dead, there were also a few who observed a sense of cognitive dissonance. That it was a cold, rainy morning, that the stadium was three fourths empty. And yet, there was all this energy coming from the stage and the loudspeakers. The presence of celebrities. The hype from Driscoll, it just felt kind of forced, and out of step with the Mars hill that they knew. Come on down. Give your life to Jesus. Let's get back to us. And throw a big resurrection party. Would you like to sing? Marcel would you like to sing? How about you? Would you like to sing? Jesus rose? Please rise bastard. These people want to see. I think the arc peaks probably a quest. This is Nate Burke, who was Driscoll's executive assistant, and essentially his chief of staff. I had concerns before then for sure, a lot of us did. I mean, even the fact that we pulled quest off with relatively short period of time. And it burned a ton of people out. But I remember being there and thinking, you know, this is going to go one of two ways. He's going to either walk out there and feel humbled by this thing that he started in his living room. And it's going to be like, wow, 17,000 people amazing. Or he's going to go out there and be like, conquered. Seattle check. Did it? And unfortunately, it was the latter. If there was a feeling of mission accomplished in Seattle, then it made sense that Driscoll would start to redirect his energies beyond the city. But he'd also need a different approach, and over time, a new team. One less rooted in, and perhaps less committed to the city itself. Ready to retool and build a new kind of machine that could expand globally. Unbeknownst to all of them, a key player was already on the scene who had the capacity to do just that. Though he hadn't been hired for that purpose. Nate met him a little later that day. And I interestingly, then we went over to a Mariners game and throughout the first pitch, which was pretty funny. You know, I got to do that, but then I sat down next to you and met something that was the day. Sutton is something Turner. He'd just been hired to work for Jamie monson, the executive pastor. And that really the wheels really started to come off at that point. The arrival of Sutton on that day is a landmark for a number of former Mars hill staff. Because for some, he became just as much a villain as Driscoll on those final years. He was hired by Jamie Munson, the executive pastor, to be the church's general manager, which meant he was supposed to be running operations like finance, facilities and HR. But within just a few weeks, Jimmy would resign. Some thought because of burnout from pulling off quest field. Sutton would overnight be promoted to executive pastor. And the contrast between a guy like Sutton and a guy like Nate is kind of a metaphor for the transition, the church was undergoing in that season. If you look at Sutton's resume, for instance, it's a CEO over and over, including work throughout the Middle East. He'd primarily come to Seattle not for the job, but because of the church's ministry, he wanted to learn, grow spiritually, and have been listening to Mars hills teaching online. When he saw a position available at the church he applied for it, and he got hired. And then he got thrown in the deep end and highly dysfunctional organization. Nate, on the other hand, was the consummate Mars hill insider. You know, I mean, I remember being at places where especially traveling in Jesse talks about this too, where it's like, if we were there, or if I was there, whoever we were the representations of the Marshall man, right? And king of fresh Pennsylvania or wherever the heck or London or South Africa or wherever it was, and I remember him describing hitting all of the merciless man's like he's tatted up, you know, he does squats and he's carrying a baby and I'm like, he's just described me. And there's kind of like at some point you're like, oh, that's cool, you know? I'm like, I'm cool, guy. And then at some point you start realizing like, I'm becoming a caricature. I'm more than that. You know, again, you play that part, as long as you play that part, you're okay. But after at some point, you start being like, oh, I'm a prop. Nate joined Mars hill in that second area of the church. About 2004. When they were still deeply invested in their identity as a church inn and four Seattle. He'd been a musician and a bunch of indie and punk rock bands. He had the tattoos. He liked MMA. He started off volunteering as a musician, and eventually came on staff as an administrator working for Tim Smith in 2006. He was quickly on Driscoll's radar, though, and became his executive assistant, and eventually sort of like a chief of staff in 2008. And I think Nate articulates something that's an undercurrent for many people in this inner circle. Did they did this work knowing that Driscoll had his flaws, even though he was dangerous and that there was risk in being in too close proximity to him. But they believed in the work itself. The mission of the church. And in some ways, the precariousness of Driscoll was actually part of the thrill of the ride. When I think about what motivated me to get in there in the first place. And there's things that I could say that were, you know, I want to be responsible. I wanted to be a good husband. Look at that. All the usual stuff. I wanted to be a man that was respected. You know, those kinds of things. There's other motivations for other people within the and everyone's got their thing. And I guess it was some of them are, but I can just tell you for me, a big part of my motivation had to do with fear. And it had to do with this feeling of I didn't want to be afraid. I didn't want fear to rule me. And it's been a lifelong theme, you know? And some people wrestle with that more than others, I suppose. But part of my reaction to it is to go into it. And to try to prove to myself that I'm not afraid or to somehow master it. So when I took the job with Mark, my thinking was the closer to Caesar, the greater the fear. If there's a job that no one else really wants, that everybody else is too scared to do, that's the one I want to do. And I think that spirit by the end, it just got out of control..
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"Felt it was just a vanity project about Driscoll. And how wonderful is it? It's been a little Bible study that grace and I started in our living room 15 years ago. Now is this great, glorious evidence of Jesus resurrection. If Jesus is dead, there were also a few who observed a sense of cognitive dissonance. That it was a cold, rainy morning, that the stadium was three fourths empty. And yet, there was all this energy coming from the stage and the loudspeakers. The presence of celebrities. The hype from Driscoll, it just felt kind of forced, and out of step with the Mars hill that they knew. Come on down. Give your life to Jesus. Let's get back to us. And throw a big resurrection party. Would you like to sing? Marcel would you like to sing? How about you? Would you like to sing? Jesus rose? Please rise bastard. These people want to see. I think the arc peaks probably a quest. This is Nate Burke, who was Driscoll's executive assistant, and essentially his chief of staff. I had concerns before then for sure, a lot of us did. I mean, even the fact that we pulled quest off with relatively short period of time. And it burned a ton of people out. But I remember being there and thinking, you know, this is going to go one of two ways. He's going to either walk out there and feel humbled by this thing that he started in his living room. And it's going to be like, wow, 17,000 people amazing. Or he's going to go out there and be like, conquered. Seattle check. Did it? And unfortunately, it was the latter. If there was a feeling of mission accomplished in Seattle, then it made sense that Driscoll would start to redirect his energies beyond the city. But he'd also need a different approach, and over time, a new team. One less rooted in, and perhaps less committed to the city itself. Ready to retool and build a new kind of machine that could expand globally. Unbeknownst to all of them, a key player was already on the scene who had the capacity to do just that. Though he hadn't been hired for that purpose. Nate met him a little later that day. And I interestingly, then we went over to a Mariners game and throughout the first pitch, which was pretty funny. You know, I got to do that, but then I sat down next to you and met something that was the day. Sutton is something Turner. He'd just been hired to work for Jamie monson, the executive pastor. And that really the wheels really started to come off at that point. The arrival of Sutton on that day is a landmark for a number of former Mars hill staff. Because for some, he became just as much a villain as Driscoll on those final years. He was hired by Jamie Munson, the executive pastor, to be the church's general manager, which meant he was supposed to be running operations like finance, facilities and HR. But within just a few weeks, Jimmy would resign. Some thought because of burnout from pulling off quest field. Sutton would overnight be promoted to executive pastor. And the contrast between a guy like Sutton and a guy like Nate is kind of a metaphor for the transition, the church was undergoing in that season. If you look at Sutton's resume, for instance, it's a CEO over and over, including work throughout the Middle East. He'd primarily come to Seattle not for the job, but because of the church's ministry, he wanted to learn, grow spiritually, and have been listening to Mars hills teaching online. When he saw a position available at the church he applied for it, and he got hired. And then he got thrown in the deep end and highly dysfunctional organization. Nate, on the other hand, was the consummate Mars hill insider. You know, I mean, I remember being at places where especially traveling in Jesse talks about this too, where it's like, if we were there, or if I was there, whoever we were the representations of the Marshall man, right? And king of fresh Pennsylvania or wherever the heck or London or South Africa or wherever it was, and I remember him describing hitting all of the merciless man's like he's tatted up, you know, he does squats and he's carrying a baby and I'm like, he's just described me. And there's kind of like at some point you're like, oh, that's cool, you know? I'm like, I'm cool, guy. And then at some point you start realizing like, I'm becoming a caricature. I'm more than that. You know, again, you play that part, as long as you play that part, you're okay. But after at some point, you start being like, oh, I'm a prop. Nate joined Mars hill in that second area of the church. About 2004. When they were still deeply invested in their identity as a church inn and four Seattle. He'd been a musician and a bunch of indie and punk rock bands. He had the tattoos. He liked MMA. He started off volunteering as a musician, and eventually came on staff as an administrator working for Tim Smith in 2006. He was quickly on Driscoll's radar, though, and became his executive assistant, and eventually sort of like a chief of staff in 2008. And I think Nate articulates something that's an undercurrent for many people in this inner circle. Did they did this work knowing that Driscoll had his flaws, even though he was dangerous and that there was risk in being in too close proximity to him. But they believed in the work itself. The mission of the church. And in some ways, the precariousness of Driscoll was actually part of the thrill of the ride. When I think about what motivated me to get in there in the first place. And there's things that I could say that were, you know, I want to be responsible. I wanted to be a good husband. Look at that. All the usual stuff. I wanted to be a man that was respected. You know, those kinds of things. There's other motivations for other people within the and everyone's got their thing. And I guess it was some of them are, but I can just tell you for me, a big part of my motivation had to do with fear. And it had to do with this feeling of I didn't want to be afraid. I didn't want fear to rule me. And it's been a lifelong theme, you know? And some people wrestle with that more than others, I suppose. But part of my reaction to it is to go into it. And to try to prove to myself that I'm not afraid or to somehow master it. So when I took the job with Mark, my thinking was the closer to Caesar, the greater the fear. If there's a job that no one else really wants, that everybody else is too scared to do, that's the one I want to do. And I think that spirit by the end, it just got out of control..
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"Better help. Dot com slash rise and fall. That's better help HELP. Dot com slash rise and fall. Happy eastern Mars hill church. It was a rainy Easter Sunday in 2011, and all of the area Mars hill campuses were gathered at quest field, the Seahawks football stadium. What an opportunity we have to celebrate in worship. This is the first time our puget sound campuses have gathered together in over ten years. And it's amazing to see this beautiful family reunion come together even all the crazy uncles here. It is amazing to gather together as one body. To gather here at quest field, which is becoming Mars hill church for one day. There were several moments during the service that people pointed to as sort of points of interest in the story. One was a new face, at least to Seattle, of one of the worship leaders. And I want you to help me welcome all the way from Orange County California. Dustin kinser's band thrice has been around since 1998, and was well known in the Indian hard rock scene. They'd release records on major labels like subpop island and vagrant. So to a certain subset and definitely a constituency of Mars hill, he was a big name to have present. He'd eventually joined the staff and moved from Orange County to Seattle to serve at the campus in Bellevue where Driscoll preached live. Another interesting moment came when Justin forsett, a running back for the Seattle Seahawks, came out to welcome the church to their home stadium. That's my honor and privilege to welcome all you guys to my office space that I call on Sundays. Also known as quest field. So thank you for coming out. Now normally, when I'm out before the start of the game, we will raise the 12th man flag right up there. And we'll celebrate and start the game. But in honor of resurrection Sunday and Jesus and who he is, we're going to raise the Jesus flag this morning. So everybody's standing your feet. Looking back ten years later, people see that day very differently. For some, it's one of the most amazing and powerful moments in their ministry careers. It's a story about the church coming together to pull off a gargantuan effort in the 6 week window between the genesis of the idea and the service itself. It's a story about almost 700 baptisms and a story of more than 17,000 people gathered in one place to celebrate the resurrection. But for others, it was very different. Even just accounting for the human toll of that 6 week turnaround was brutal. It felt like a spur of the moment decision by Driscoll got thrown on the backs of the church to pull off. And it would have been difficult to do with 6 months, much less 6 weeks. They got it done, but in spite of all the talk about the day being about the resurrection. Some.
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"Better help. Dot com slash rise and fall. That's better help HELP. Dot com slash rise and fall. Happy eastern Mars hill church. It was a rainy Easter Sunday in 2011, and all of the area Mars hill campuses were gathered at quest field, the Seahawks football stadium. What an opportunity we have to celebrate in worship. This is the first time our puget sound campuses have gathered together in over ten years. And it's amazing to see this beautiful family reunion come together even all the crazy uncles here. It is amazing to gather together as one body. To gather here at quest field, which is becoming Mars hill church for one day. There were several moments during the service that people pointed to as sort of points of interest in the story. One was a new face, at least to Seattle, of one of the worship leaders. And I want you to help me welcome all the way from Orange County California. Dustin kinser's band thrice has been around since 1998, and was well known in the Indian hard rock scene. They'd release records on major labels like subpop island and vagrant. So to a certain subset and definitely a constituency of Mars hill, he was a big name to have present. He'd eventually joined the staff and moved from Orange County to Seattle to serve at the campus in Bellevue where Driscoll preached live. Another interesting moment came when Justin forsett, a running back for the Seattle Seahawks, came out to welcome the church to their home stadium. That's my honor and privilege to welcome all you guys to my office space that I call on Sundays. Also known as quest field. So thank you for coming out. Now normally, when I'm out before the start of the game, we will raise the 12th man flag right up there. And we'll celebrate and start the game. But in honor of resurrection Sunday and Jesus and who he is, we're going to raise the Jesus flag this morning. So everybody's standing your feet. Looking back ten years later, people see that day very differently. For some, it's one of the most amazing and powerful moments in their ministry careers. It's a story about the church coming together to pull off a gargantuan effort in the 6 week window between the genesis of the idea and the service itself. It's a story about almost 700 baptisms and a story of more than 17,000 people gathered in one place to celebrate the resurrection. But for others, it was very different. Even just accounting for the human toll of that 6 week turnaround was brutal. It felt like a spur of the moment decision by Driscoll got thrown on the backs of the church to pull off. And it would have been difficult to do with 6 months, much less 6 weeks. They got it done, but in spite of all the talk about the day being about the resurrection. Some.
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"Return. So if you think about television, people have talked about how the introduction of television to politics absolutely changed the landscape going back to the Nixon Kennedy debate that while people who listened to the debate thought that Nixon won, people who watched the debate felt like Kennedy won because he looked handsome and composed the whole time in Nixon was sweating and looked all disheveled. Just the medium changed people's perception of the event. How does a projected larger than life image of a preacher change our perception of the sermon or the pastor or the entire worship experience? Maybe we're so inundated with life on screens that we hardly notice. And yet, maybe that's the very source of the problem. We're desensitized to them. So then this medium through which we consume entertainment of all kinds becomes the vehicle through which we hear the word of God. What are the subtle embedded messages that come through the very presence of the screen, though? It's a question Nick began to ask over time. And when he resigned from Mars hill, he raised these questions with the executive elders in a letter. What I said was like, hey, I grew up Lutheran. And when I walk into a Lutheran Church, I see an aisle down to a front and at the front of that aisle isn't with a crossover. I see an elevated pulpit. I see high ceilings and stained glass. And I see things that are communicating theological realities that form their disciples in return. That elevated pulpit is meant to communicate a high view of God and the authority of his word. The high ceilings are meant to convey his transcendence and the stained glass into convey his beauty. Like all those things end up shaping how you view God, right? And what I wrote in the letter was when I walk into a Mars hill campus and see a 60 foot screen with a disembodied messenger and an audience rather than a congregation, the questions I raised were how is this forming disciples? Is it forming just consumers or is it forming people who have a robust faith? There's a related challenge that comes with multi site, something Warren bird talked about as well. It's another issue that emerges because of the teacher's absence from the people being taught. Pastors would just as a normal part of their sermon before they went multi site would talk about the traffic coming down such a road or the weather today or the local sports team or the rivalry between the two local high schools. And they quickly realized, you know, this really doesn't translate when I'm at the other campus. I just have to learn to still be just as pastoral and speak to the needs of the human heart, but make sure my illustrations are not location or time specific in a way that causes people to go, huh? Maybe there are churches in situations where the teaching can be divorced from that kind of context. Without losing much of its essence or potency. But Mars hill was built on that kind of particularity, an emphasis on context. It was a church for Seattle. For the most unchurched city in America, where there were more dogs than children. It wasn't supposed to make sense in other places. You could maintain some of that context as the church planted campuses around the city. But just a year after this multi site conference, in 2009, Mars hill would adopt a church in Albuquerque, New Mexico called city on a hill, and would eventually launch sites in California and Oregon. Those were just the first in a far more ambitious plan that had been forming in Driscoll's mind. And it was something that Driscoll wasn't really all that shy about. Here's Jeff van der stell, who during this time was pastoring an axe 29 church called soma in Tacoma, Washington, and was part of the axe 29 board. There was a shift. And I remember Mark having a conversation with him and he, I think Rick Warren or somebody had prayed for the inauguration of the president. And I remember him saying, man, I want to be there. I want to be, I want to be that guy. And him saying, I know that I'm going to have to have the biggest church in the country to make that happen. And so I'm aiming for 50,000. And that was when the shift happened where he said, yeah, I'm just going to find out where we have a listing audience of at least a thousand people. And that's where we'll put up a campus and eventually we'll have 50 of those and we'll have the biggest church in the country and then I'll be that guy. In an earlier act in the life of Mars hill, you'd often hear Driscoll offer brutal criticism of any ministry strategy that prided itself in growth in numbers. But by 2010, when this multi site vision was underway and a road map to 50,000 people was being assembled. He was unapologetic about it. He might even say he was aggressive about it. Hey.
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"Return. So if you think about television, people have talked about how the introduction of television to politics absolutely changed the landscape going back to the Nixon Kennedy debate that while people who listened to the debate thought that Nixon won, people who watched the debate felt like Kennedy won because he looked handsome and composed the whole time in Nixon was sweating and looked all disheveled. Just the medium changed people's perception of the event. How does a projected larger than life image of a preacher change our perception of the sermon or the pastor or the entire worship experience? Maybe we're so inundated with life on screens that we hardly notice. And yet, maybe that's the very source of the problem. We're desensitized to them. So then this medium through which we consume entertainment of all kinds becomes the vehicle through which we hear the word of God. What are the subtle embedded messages that come through the very presence of the screen, though? It's a question Nick began to ask over time. And when he resigned from Mars hill, he raised these questions with the executive elders in a letter. What I said was like, hey, I grew up Lutheran. And when I walk into a Lutheran Church, I see an aisle down to a front and at the front of that aisle isn't with a crossover. I see an elevated pulpit. I see high ceilings and stained glass. And I see things that are communicating theological realities that form their disciples in return. That elevated pulpit is meant to communicate a high view of God and the authority of his word. The high ceilings are meant to convey his transcendence and the stained glass into convey his beauty. Like all those things end up shaping how you view God, right? And what I wrote in the letter was when I walk into a Mars hill campus and see a 60 foot screen with a disembodied messenger and an audience rather than a congregation, the questions I raised were how is this forming disciples? Is it forming just consumers or is it forming people who have a robust faith? There's a related challenge that comes with multi site, something Warren bird talked about as well. It's another issue that emerges because of the teacher's absence from the people being taught. Pastors would just as a normal part of their sermon before they went multi site would talk about the traffic coming down such a road or the weather today or the local sports team or the rivalry between the two local high schools. And they quickly realized, you know, this really doesn't translate when I'm at the other campus. I just have to learn to still be just as pastoral and speak to the needs of the human heart, but make sure my illustrations are not location or time specific in a way that causes people to go, huh? Maybe there are churches in situations where the teaching can be divorced from that kind of context. Without losing much of its essence or potency. But Mars hill was built on that kind of particularity, an emphasis on context. It was a church for Seattle. For the most unchurched city in America, where there were more dogs than children. It wasn't supposed to make sense in other places. You could maintain some of that context as the church planted campuses around the city. But just a year after this multi site conference, in 2009, Mars hill would adopt a church in Albuquerque, New Mexico called city on a hill, and would eventually launch sites in California and Oregon. Those were just the first in a far more ambitious plan that had been forming in Driscoll's mind. And it was something that Driscoll wasn't really all that shy about. Here's Jeff van der stell, who during this time was pastoring an axe 29 church called soma in Tacoma, Washington, and was part of the axe 29 board. There was a shift. And I remember Mark having a conversation with him and he, I think Rick Warren or somebody had prayed for the inauguration of the president. And I remember him saying, man, I want to be there. I want to be, I want to be that guy. And him saying, I know that I'm going to have to have the biggest church in the country to make that happen. And so I'm aiming for 50,000. And that was when the shift happened where he said, yeah, I'm just going to find out where we have a listing audience of at least a thousand people. And that's where we'll put up a campus and eventually we'll have 50 of those and we'll have the biggest church in the country and then I'll be that guy. In an earlier act in the life of Mars hill, you'd often hear Driscoll offer brutal criticism of any ministry strategy that prided itself in growth in numbers. But by 2010, when this multi site vision was underway and a road map to 50,000 people was being assembled. He was unapologetic about it. He might even say he was aggressive about it. Hey.
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"It seems sacrilegious. Driscoll made historical comparisons as well. In his defense of multi site. He made his most direct appeal by referencing the horseback methodist circuit rider ministries. We have, instead of a horse, you have a screen. If you're doing video preaching. In early methodism, I'll give you one example of Francis asbury who was the founding bishop of American methodism. He traveled a quarter million miles estimated on foot and horseback preached 16,000 sermons. That's multi campus under a senior leader whose primary preacher functioning in an apostolic way. Not in the possible like the New Testament authors, but apostolic in that they have leadership influence over multiple churches whereas a pastor has leadership influence over a church. He also mentions the printing press, but then he goes on to talk about loudspeakers, radio, and television, and how they gave Billy Graham a reach for the gospel that was unimaginable a century before. He then describes a pretty dramatic vision for what multi site could look like in just a few years. I believe it is probable that you will have churches in the millions. I don't think it's impossible to have a church of a million people. It happens in other nations in another places, but I think technology and the number of screens in America has made it possible to have churches of that kind of scope and race. Now, to be sure, not a lot, and certainly not mine because if you've listened to me, you know, I'm not. Mass marketable. I hit a very sort of drunken redneck indie rocker, good sense of humor, niche. But there will be someone who is able to speak to a mass audience with broad appeal. And there will be many more. More screens in churches than theaters, just think about that on your way home. When he turns his attention to the Internet, you see a glimpse of what Mars hills reach looked like in 2008. And I think between these comments and the comments about screens, there's a sketch of a road map for where the church would go in the next 6 years. I mean, today, what we're finding, I'll preach a sermon on Sunday. Like in our religion safe series a while back, preacher sermon on a Sunday, we'd send it out to iTunes and Facebook and MySpace and YouTube and we put it on our main website and our media portal. Let's say on a Sunday I preached to a certain number of people, that week, either in full or in part, the sermon would be downloaded, listened to or viewed audio and video format, upwards of a 100,000 times. You think about the multiplication of the message through the Internet. And that's unbelievable. You know, so if there's a Sunday and there's 6000 people I preach to, it goes on the Internet, hits another 100,000 people that week, and it lives forever. We've talked a lot in several episodes now about the role of media in the life of Mars hill. But the story demands that we keep coming back to it, because as the years went by, most of the church only knew Driscoll through these mediated experiences. Either online or in pre recorded and sometimes edited sermons. It's kind of stunning to look at the pace at which technology evolved in the 18 years of Mars hill's life. In terms of the ability to capture and project sermons week to week, which allowed the multi side expansion. And the development of high-speed Internet, streaming technology, and smartphones, enabling Mars hill to connect with an audience that was much broader than previously possible. The evolution of media is central to this story because it was central to this cultural moment. Here's Nick bogardus, who was Mars hill's PR and media relations director, and was later the lead pastor at the Orange County campus. His time at Mars hill led to a lot of reflection on the formative role of media in the spiritual life of the church. There's a whole field of study called media ecology that I got into. Most people know Neil postman, Marshall mcluhan, and so the argument that field makes is that when technology is introduced into an environment, it's rarely neutral. Tool can sometimes be neutral in its usage, but it always impacts the environment. And so you can't over estimate the power that it has to form in the problem is that often we don't notice it, or we assume it's benefit without asking the hard questions about how it's shaping us in.
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"mars hill" Discussed on TuneInPOC
"It seems sacrilegious. Driscoll made historical comparisons as well. In his defense of multi site. He made his most direct appeal by referencing the horseback methodist circuit rider ministries. We have, instead of a horse, you have a screen. If you're doing video preaching. In early methodism, I'll give you one example of Francis asbury who was the founding bishop of American methodism. He traveled a quarter million miles estimated on foot and horseback preached 16,000 sermons. That's multi campus under a senior leader whose primary preacher functioning in an apostolic way. Not in the possible like the New Testament authors, but apostolic in that they have leadership influence over multiple churches whereas a pastor has leadership influence over a church. He also mentions the printing press, but then he goes on to talk about loudspeakers, radio, and television, and how they gave Billy Graham a reach for the gospel that was unimaginable a century before. He then describes a pretty dramatic vision for what multi site could look like in just a few years. I believe it is probable that you will have churches in the millions. I don't think it's impossible to have a church of a million people. It happens in other nations in another places, but I think technology and the number of screens in America has made it possible to have churches of that kind of scope and race. Now, to be sure, not a lot, and certainly not mine because if you've listened to me, you know, I'm not. Mass marketable. I hit a very sort of drunken redneck indie rocker, good sense of humor, niche. But there will be someone who is able to speak to a mass audience with broad appeal. And there will be many more. More screens in churches than theaters, just think about that on your way home. When he turns his attention to the Internet, you see a glimpse of what Mars hills reach looked like in 2008. And I think between these comments and the comments about screens, there's a sketch of a road map for where the church would go in the next 6 years. I mean, today, what we're finding, I'll preach a sermon on Sunday. Like in our religion safe series a while back, preacher sermon on a Sunday, we'd send it out to iTunes and Facebook and MySpace and YouTube and we put it on our main website and our media portal. Let's say on a Sunday I preached to a certain number of people, that week, either in full or in part, the sermon would be downloaded, listened to or viewed audio and video format, upwards of a 100,000 times. You think about the multiplication of the message through the Internet. And that's unbelievable. You know, so if there's a Sunday and there's 6000 people I preach to, it goes on the Internet, hits another 100,000 people that week, and it lives forever. We've talked a lot in several episodes now about the role of media in the life of Mars hill. But the story demands that we keep coming back to it, because as the years went by, most of the church only knew Driscoll through these mediated experiences. Either online or in pre recorded and sometimes edited sermons. It's kind of stunning to look at the pace at which technology evolved in the 18 years of Mars hill's life. In terms of the ability to capture and project sermons week to week, which allowed the multi side expansion. And the development of high-speed Internet, streaming technology, and smartphones, enabling Mars hill to connect with an audience that was much broader than previously possible. The evolution of media is central to this story because it was central to this cultural moment. Here's Nick bogardus, who was Mars hill's PR and media relations director, and was later the lead pastor at the Orange County campus. His time at Mars hill led to a lot of reflection on the formative role of media in the spiritual life of the church. There's a whole field of study called media ecology that I got into. Most people know Neil postman, Marshall mcluhan, and so the argument that field makes is that when technology is introduced into an environment, it's rarely neutral. Tool can sometimes be neutral in its usage, but it always impacts the environment. And so you can't over estimate the power that it has to form in the problem is that often we don't notice it, or we assume it's benefit without asking the hard questions about how it's shaping us in.
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"mars hill" Discussed on TuneInPOC
"This episode is brought to you in part by the influencers podcast. Our hurting world needs your influence. Get inspired with stories from faith based leaders impacting real issues, like the crisis in Ukraine, abortion, mental health, and more. Listen today, at the influencers podcast, dot org. This is CT media. Here I got a fun story for you. This is Jesse Bryant. Longtime creative director for Mars hill. Will you please tell Mike the first time you met Tim? So we're in one of the hotels that some big conference, right? And I think it was a desiring God conference because I was going. I remember I was having drinks with Barnabas piper and actually John piper was there in the bar but not drinking. This is Mike Anderson. This would have been sometime around 2008 and he would have been about 23. And he'd just taken over at the helm of the resurgence. Mars hill's resourcing ministry, which at the time was a barely used blog and website. And take the escalator downstairs and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's Tim Keller, right? And like for me, this is like superhero or like seeing your football, you know, one of your favorite football players. And I introduced myself. I reach out and he's a huge guy. I had no idea how big he was. You know, I go to shake his hand, ham, Mike Anderson, director of the resurgence. He takes that big hand like this, and he hits me square in the chest, like hard. And he says, son, the resurgence will not be directed. There you go. That's all you need to know about Tim Keller. He didn't play around. I'll tell you what, man. Tim killer was nothing but a nice dude. I don't know, I always really liked him. Yeah. Same with piper, piper was super cool too. There's more to this than just a funny anecdote, because it wouldn't be long before the resurgence would be a lot more than a punchline. Mike had been brought on board with a very clear mandate for where he was supposed to take it. I get hired and Mark takes me to a baseball game, the very first day. And he basically said like, hey, our media team's good, the rest of my leadership team is junior varsity and we're getting ready to become varsity and I need you to come in and figure out how to build our distribution because we're going to be taking this national. We're taking this worldwide was basically the idea and he's like, I need you to take what you know how to do with these new social networks and I need you to figure out how to build the distribution for us to get this message out to the world. And I was stoked about that. Mike Anderson's work and building the resurgence is one of the final elements of the Mars hill story that needs to be put in place. The resurgence was originally launched in 2006. The same year that they opened their first video venue multi site campus in shoreline. And about a year before the governance transition, the concentrated authority in a small executive team. What they saw in Mike was a young, true believer, with an entrepreneurial gift. The kind of leader that Mars hill seemed to find regularly. He was fully committed to the vision of the church, and willing to bleed for it. Which he did. Jesse and the media team may have had shredder's lair, with skateboard ramps and $100,000 cameras. Mike Anderson did not. The budget policy for me was eat what you kill. And so I had to bring in the money. So what I was doing is I was calling up publishers. I was calling up conferences. I was sleeping on the floor of different people's hotel rooms so that I could travel the country and go get make resurgence a thing. And so I would go do whatever it took to earn enough money to go to this event or that event. And I would bring a little camera with me and I'd try to record whoever I could get in front of. That's how the resurgence became what it became was me traveling around and doing whatever I could to get clips or to get access to blog posts, all that sort of thing. And then again, I built a volunteer team that grew like crazy and we built a machine to turn that into blog posts and podcasts and all that sort of thing. Mike built the resurgence with volunteers that he trained from the church, think about that. One salary built the largest Christian blog on the Internet with interns, here's how good that internship program is. If you figured out and we're not going to talk about who they were, who those interns were in that group, most of them have incredible careers because of the stuff they learned there. That reticence to name names is something we'll get into more in a later episode. But I've confirmed it. And as for this story, the launch of the resurgence, I remember those days. I remember first meeting Mike Anderson when I was writing for the gospel coalition. And attending conferences and events around that time. Mike would be around wearing this huge black backpack because unbeknownst to me literally everything he was traveling with was packed inside. I remember someone asking around for a room for him one time that he could crash in. And I kind of thought it was a joke, but it turns out he wasn't. It was the scrappy way this website was put together. And the sweat that he poured into that work paid off over time. Eventually, the resurgence became the kind of place that Christian writers of all sorts wanted to publish their stuff, and it was a wildly diverse mix. Scholars like Timothy George, DA Carson and Michael Horton, along with megachurch pastors like perre noble, Craig gross, musicians, like Jackie hill Perry, all kinds of X 29 pastors. The aforementioned Tim Keller and full disclosure I published an article there as well. So we were going out with the resurgence. We were inviting people to write, but we decided what they were going to write about. We were trying to shift the whole perspective on how all this stuff worked. And they were happy to do it because we had a vision and they didn't. So brand implies value. So if you can take someone with a strong brand and you can stand next to them, it's called selling by association. So every time Mike could get, I don't know, Gruden or whoever to write a blog post, they thought they were winning because they were getting distribution. We were stacking the deck. It was like, look at all these all stars. And we're bringing in people from different tribes because we weren't a part of any of them. So it wasn't like we care about the Baptists were doing or the whatevers we're doing. We were part of a denomination, so it was like, great, let's just go get all the best people from all these other places and get them on the platform. And then the more that Mike did that, the traffic just started going faster and faster. The success of the resurgence eventually allowed it to expand well beyond the blog. It was a publishing imprint, and a training center, featuring classes taught by well respected conservative evangelical scholars. That coincided with several other factors to define what I'd call the third act in the life of the church. Act one was the church living on a shoestring. Unsure how they pay rent, unsure of who they were or what they were ultimately going to be about. It was the formative period where Mars hill found an identity in a sense of trajectory. Act two started maybe 2001 or 2002. During that period, the church became an established Seattle based mega church, and driskell became a leader of the young restless reform movement, seen as a protege of pastors like John piper and CJ Mahaney. Even if that didn't reflect reality. The stage was getting set for the third act around this time, with the launch of the resurgence, the governance changes of 2007, and the launch of video venue multi sites in 2006. These strategies, along with the growing awareness of Driscoll.
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"mars hill" Discussed on TuneInPOC
"This episode is brought to you in part by the influencers podcast. Our hurting world needs your influence. Get inspired with stories from faith based leaders impacting real issues, like the crisis in Ukraine, abortion, mental health, and more. Listen today, at the influencers podcast, dot org. This is CT media. Here I got a fun story for you. This is Jesse Bryant. Longtime creative director for Mars hill. Will you please tell Mike the first time you met Tim? So we're in one of the hotels that some big conference, right? And I think it was a desiring God conference because I was going. I remember I was having drinks with Barnabas piper and actually John piper was there in the bar but not drinking. This is Mike Anderson. This would have been sometime around 2008 and he would have been about 23. And he'd just taken over at the helm of the resurgence. Mars hill's resourcing ministry, which at the time was a barely used blog and website. And take the escalator downstairs and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's Tim Keller, right? And like for me, this is like superhero or like seeing your football, you know, one of your favorite football players. And I introduced myself. I reach out and he's a huge guy. I had no idea how big he was. You know, I go to shake his hand, ham, Mike Anderson, director of the resurgence. He takes that big hand like this, and he hits me square in the chest, like hard. And he says, son, the resurgence will not be directed. There you go. That's all you need to know about Tim Keller. He didn't play around. I'll tell you what, man. Tim killer was nothing but a nice dude. I don't know, I always really liked him. Yeah. Same with piper, piper was super cool too. There's more to this than just a funny anecdote, because it wouldn't be long before the resurgence would be a lot more than a punchline. Mike had been brought on board with a very clear mandate for where he was supposed to take it. I get hired and Mark takes me to a baseball game, the very first day. And he basically said like, hey, our media team's good, the rest of my leadership team is junior varsity and we're getting ready to become varsity and I need you to come in and figure out how to build our distribution because we're going to be taking this national. We're taking this worldwide was basically the idea and he's like, I need you to take what you know how to do with these new social networks and I need you to figure out how to build the distribution for us to get this message out to the world. And I was stoked about that. Mike Anderson's work and building the resurgence is one of the final elements of the Mars hill story that needs to be put in place. The resurgence was originally launched in 2006. The same year that they opened their first video venue multi site campus in shoreline. And about a year before the governance transition, the concentrated authority in a small executive team. What they saw in Mike was a young, true believer, with an entrepreneurial gift. The kind of leader that Mars hill seemed to find regularly. He was fully committed to the vision of the church, and willing to bleed for it. Which he did. Jesse and the media team may have had shredder's lair, with skateboard ramps and $100,000 cameras. Mike Anderson did not. The budget policy for me was eat what you kill. And so I had to bring in the money. So what I was doing is I was calling up publishers. I was calling up conferences. I was sleeping on the floor of different people's hotel rooms so that I could travel the country and go get make resurgence a thing. And so I would go do whatever it took to earn enough money to go to this event or that event. And I would bring a little camera with me and I'd try to record whoever I could get in front of. That's how the resurgence became what it became was me traveling around and doing whatever I could to get clips or to get access to blog posts, all that sort of thing. And then again, I built a volunteer team that grew like crazy and we built a machine to turn that into blog posts and podcasts and all that sort of thing. Mike built the resurgence with volunteers that he trained from the church, think about that. One salary built the largest Christian blog on the Internet with interns, here's how good that internship program is. If you figured out and we're not going to talk about who they were, who those interns were in that group, most of them have incredible careers because of the stuff they learned there. That reticence to name names is something we'll get into more in a later episode. But I've confirmed it. And as for this story, the launch of the resurgence, I remember those days. I remember first meeting Mike Anderson when I was writing for the gospel coalition. And attending conferences and events around that time. Mike would be around wearing this huge black backpack because unbeknownst to me literally everything he was traveling with was packed inside. I remember someone asking around for a room for him one time that he could crash in. And I kind of thought it was a joke, but it turns out he wasn't. It was the scrappy way this website was put together. And the sweat that he poured into that work paid off over time. Eventually, the resurgence became the kind of place that Christian writers of all sorts wanted to publish their stuff, and it was a wildly diverse mix. Scholars like Timothy George, DA Carson and Michael Horton, along with megachurch pastors like perre noble, Craig gross, musicians, like Jackie hill Perry, all kinds of X 29 pastors. The aforementioned Tim Keller and full disclosure I published an article there as well. So we were going out with the resurgence. We were inviting people to write, but we decided what they were going to write about. We were trying to shift the whole perspective on how all this stuff worked. And they were happy to do it because we had a vision and they didn't. So brand implies value. So if you can take someone with a strong brand and you can stand next to them, it's called selling by association. So every time Mike could get, I don't know, Gruden or whoever to write a blog post, they thought they were winning because they were getting distribution. We were stacking the deck. It was like, look at all these all stars. And we're bringing in people from different tribes because we weren't a part of any of them. So it wasn't like we care about the Baptists were doing or the whatevers we're doing. We were part of a denomination, so it was like, great, let's just go get all the best people from all these other places and get them on the platform. And then the more that Mike did that, the traffic just started going faster and faster. The success of the resurgence eventually allowed it to expand well beyond the blog. It was a publishing imprint, and a training center, featuring classes taught by well respected conservative evangelical scholars. That coincided with several other factors to define what I'd call the third act in the life of the church. Act one was the church living on a shoestring. Unsure how they pay rent, unsure of who they were or what they were ultimately going to be about. It was the formative period where Mars hill found an identity in a sense of trajectory. Act two started maybe 2001 or 2002. During that period, the church became an established Seattle based mega church, and driskell became a leader of the young restless reform movement, seen as a protege of pastors like John piper and CJ Mahaney. Even if that didn't reflect reality. The stage was getting set for the third act around this time, with the launch of the resurgence, the governance changes of 2007, and the launch of video venue multi sites in 2006. These strategies, along with the growing awareness of Driscoll.
Out of Bounds Podcast
"mars hill" Discussed on Out of Bounds Podcast
"And I remember this 'cause I hurt your feelings that night. You were talking about the race and you were like, oh, I think, you know, you didn't win. And you were like, oh, you know, but I did this well. And I was like, that doesn't matter. Like you didn't win. And you were just like, what? And I was like, I can't take someone that brags about themselves or thinks that they're good when they're not. And I remember saying that, and you were just like, oh, okay. And I think you were just literally trying to explain to me that it wasn't all bad. What happened or whatever? Yeah, yeah. But I took it as like, oh no, he can't think that he's good when he's not. So I took it upon myself to tell you. Geez. And so at this point, had I had finished college? No, no, no. You were still in rock killed then. You didn't even go. You hadn't even been to Marcel yet. Okay, all right. I think that's when there's a big turning point. Okay. And so what we're talking about is essentially I met Casey and right before I left to go to Mars hill where I had an opportunity to raise for the Mars hill university cycling team. And I thought that was next level. And I thought it was going to be a game changer. And it was, it was a great experience and I learned a lot racing collegiately and everything and that was that was a life goal of mine was to win a collegiate national championship and to do all these other things. But yeah, so I guess when did you when was the point that you saw the turning point of you as a cyclist? Yeah, 'cause I think what if I was like there hasn't been that much. Well, I think when we met, I think I always thought of myself as a professional athlete. Which is funny because now I don't really think of myself as a professional athlete. But back then, I was a cat for all I did was raise my bike. So I just assumed that I was a party and then you raced your bike on the weekend, let's clarify. Okay, yeah, but you see what I'm saying. So I just assumed that I was a professional. Right. Professional cyclists. Yeah, 'cause you lived like rockstar rockstar lifestyle. Yeah. In your mind. And I would race all the races and do all the stuff. And okay, I think Marcel actually was really good for you as far as the discipline aspect went because when you were in Rock Hill, you could do it as a hobby, like it was still just a hobby. And then when you actually went to college to do that, I think maybe the gravity of the situation kind of meant something to you then because you were there to do something. And I remember you were like pretty lonely at martel a lot. Yeah. And you were just there basically to ride your bike. Well, everybody was a lot younger than me too. Yes, yeah. You went into like as a you were like.
The Erick Erickson Show
"mars hill" Discussed on The Erick Erickson Show
"And i know that this bothers some people but you whether it's nature or nurture it is the reality men and women actually are different and they complement each other in their roles A mother and father play different roles a man and society jin rowley wants to be in some way protector. They may do it in different ways. Summer strong and in arm up and they're gonna fight for their family. Some work themselves to the bone and let their wife stay home with the family. But it's it's they all have different views obt protector. Men in society need some level of guidance and care and society itself has viewed minutes dominant and in the woke culture of the day into the critical theory of the day. Men are oppressor class. They are a dominant class. It had been as a species are bad. They need to be contained and constrained and feminist and mark driscoll as a pastor was a pastor instead. Oh hell no we. We need to be in charge in fact at his church marciel. They'd courage women to stay home with the kids and into work. If you've got to work two jobs to make ends meet so your family can't keep up with jolt us now that you should be doing that. Men go work two three jobs so your wife stay old and you make lots of babies. In one day you would hear at the earth. Now you may not like all of that in fact a lotta people dole but the reality is that men need some level of guidance and in so doing with the guidance men need to have some care placed on how they find their way the world men need to have relationships with other men and part of the off pity off-putting portion of this is that a society has idealized gay relationships that i don't mean this to i don't hear me. I'm not disparaging it. I'm just. I'm saying that we as a society have internalized if you have a deep meaningful relationship with a man maybe you're too gay dudes and you don't even know it. We look at the story for example of jonathan and david in the bible and a lot of people maybe they were actually closley. No they were at a deep meaningful for chip and then need that and and they need some level of feeling like they're in control of their lives and destiny. They need to feel protective of others. You may not like this but you now. One of the problems here is that. We're seeing this bro. Culture developed we see it with the proud boys. We see it now in in i. I thought i've got friends of mine and don't mean to disparage them or criticize them. But it's very this this masculine christianity. Now we've lost the soft touch of jesus and we're back to the jesus who throws punches. We've come back to where mark driscoll was with mars. Ill in men need to. They need to learn to box. They need to go to the gym and throw metals around. Which i love to do and i need to do more of it but nonetheless i hope you see my point that men have felt lost and now these cultures are coming up to To to incentivize min to focus on the masculine nature of male hood through cross fit through exercise through getting together with friends in driscoll's point when he was the pastor at mars hill was that men are either go off in porn..
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"mars hill" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"The voice of Jesus and shall come forth. Both state and center. Remember, he said. There is no marvel. That he will do this. No marvel when we note what Paul said on Mars Hill. God has appointed a day in which he will judge the world. By that man whom he hath ordained. We're off his given assurance on to all the nations. And that he raised him from the dead. It's no marvel that Jesus would call the dead out of the graves. When we note that John reminds us in revelation, 20 And I saw a great white throne. Him the set upon it from whose face the earth and the heavens led away. And there was found no room for them. These are the nine resurrections. On the dead and the New Testament. Someone has written these appropriate lines. When the great business plants of our city Have turned out their last finish work. The Martians have made their last order and dismissed every last tired clerk. The banks are right in their last dollar and declared their last dividend. And the judge of the Earth says closed for the night. And asked for the balance. What then? When the TV has played his last drama. And the comic has made his last pun. When the movie has flashes last picture. And the billboard is made its last run. When the people seeking pleasure have vanished. I'm going out in the darkness again. The trumpet of ages have sounded. And we stand up before him. What then? When the choir has songs last anthem. And the preacher has prayed his last prayer. And the people have heard their last sermon. And the songs have died on the air. Or when the Bible large close on the pulpit. And the pews are all empty of men. On the topic of ages has sounded. And we stand up before him. What then? These are the nine resurrections. The New Testament. Ladies and gentlemen, you've been listening to another God is just a prayer away radio broadcast brought to you each week at the same time. By churches of Christ and Christian churches who are concerned about your soul's salvation. The address they had Bozeman b o US M A N Post office box 5 11. Lynchburg, Ohio, 45142. Only if you reach back to us with your letter of self support. Can we reach out to you with the Gospel? As it was preached in the days of the apostles. You're addressing. Get it. Bozeman Post Office box. 5 11, Lynchburg, Ohio, 4514 to check on our website it Bozeman dot or g'kar. Praise the Lord passed the ammunition. Tell somebody, somehow it in some way that God is just a prayer away. Just News, traffic and weather. You was radio 700. W L jealousy Cincinnati on Sean Gallagher. Here's your Sunday morning Headlines, a snowy Saturday night will bring a rainy Sunday to the Tri State area. Which adds to the weather filled weekend. Cincinnati police have been investigating after a 16 year old was shot in the leg and over the Rhine Saturday evening. The victims suffering.
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"Traffic. We'll have a bit of a tight squeeze over in Spring Lake on the sampan Sound of 35 Ocean Road Down to Sea Girt Avenue. You've got some construction going on. Traffic is being directed through the area. For the time being. This report responsible. I lows. Pros Lows offers commercial cleaning supplies from top brands like Laura, Exempt and Rubbermaid, help you stay clean and safe Shop close for pros don common shoes, delivery or pick up in store lows. A new home for proves us only business. 33 of got continuing construction work Broad Street down the route 79 South Street that should be wrapping up within the next hour. Traffic on the parkway slows down briefly south near the Driscoll Bridge, but a stalls been moved out of the way. 18 South and the East Brunswick still a bit on the crowded side. Had across the Hudson. We're not doing badly. Tom River's New Jersey traffic North Jill Myron, New Jersey traffic self. It's backed up big time in the Trenton area, and this is South bound Route one approaching the Trenton Mars Hill Bridge. It looks like there's about three minor accidents now and the same stretch south bound on Route one from Market Street to the Trenton Norrisville Bridge, and it's going to be Much better scene for you. If you could take the calendar street Bridge with the Trenton makes or even the Scudder falls instead, and traffic is still little bothersome right now at 1 30 in the Dell ran area and Cinnamon said, We have a minor accident at 1 30 being worked on. 38 a little slow as you come off of the area where emerges in with Browning Road and in towards the circle, the airport circle just a lot of volume going in towards the 38 merge with 1 30. Also to 95 South bound is slow. Approaching Exit. 26, New Jersey fast traffic every 15 minutes. Next, reported 4 33 on New Jersey. When a 1.5 Hey, check out NJ pet supply dot com. I use them myself. These guys were great. It's a local New Jersey family owned business, and.
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"Athena. Oh she was the goddess of wisdom she popped out of seuss's head walk. There is so she was the goddess of wisdom. There's a logical explanation for those people back then behind it. So she was that the protecting the city and in the years of democracy when everybody was equal the best spot of the city. Who would it be dedicated to the goddess but at the same time athens was a political power. Military power shipping power league was created in the athenians were taking taxes from all the fellas. The athenian league exactly and this is a bunch of small states. That athens kind of was the leader of exactly so they financed had to make a statement for her. There's this beautiful rock. One way up to the top one axis so we make these fantastic building. Parthenon the temple of the virgin goddess dina. So the parthenon was built for tina. Exactly there must have been a huge statue of athena in there. Was it thirty six feet statue of thirty nine side made of ivory and gold but at the same time this building was the treasury of the democracy of athens so the public gold and the public bronze was kept safely at their where people wouldn't have access the same time very well protected. So there's politics there's economics there's religion it's all mixed up together. You wanna philippos. Thank you so much for sharing with us. A better appreciation of greek sightseeing through the mythology. Thank you very much. If you're hungry for your of adventure here how connor night traversed tear united states to see every national park could three hundred and sixty five days spats more than one week. He's next on travel. With rick steves later in the hour. Let's hear about your favorite travel. Member said eight seven seven three three three seven four to five. Have you ever made travel plans for yourself. That you discovered might have been tad ambitious connor. Night made it his goal to visit each of america's national parks within a year from acadia to zion and even in american samoa and he filmed his adventures for a series on. Cbs sunday morning and describes how he made it all happen in his book. Leave only footprints connors back with us from his home studio to tell us his process for seeing fifty nine. Us national parks in one year connor. Welcome back thank you for having me. So what an epic year and you bookended. Very nice with a sunrise and a sunset can sort of set the scene for us. How did you kick it off. How did you finish it. And just very briefly hundred you fill the year. Yeah so i began acadia national park in maine on new year's day at the top of cadillac mountain. That is the place in the contiguous. Us the sun. I touches us soil. And so i knew it was going to be a busy year. I told myself a headstart. Couldn't hurt even if it's just a couple of seconds head start but that's a park that it gets. i think. Eighty percent of its visitation in four months of the year. And those would be the warm months so it is. It is not a popular park in january. Cadillac mountain is a mountain. You can drive up in the summer but in the winter road shuts down. Most of the town shuts down our harbor maine. That road becomes a slippery solitary hike. And so i'm headed out on new year's day the new year's eve revellers are still may be coming home at that point. It's three three thirty in the morning. And i begin this hike myself. Cbs had not said yes to the idea at that point yet certainly didn't think it would be a book. I just knew that the beginning needed to be special. Whatever this is going to shape up to be and so. I didn't have a camera crew. I had a little camera with myself. Made it to the top of the mountain and then was surprised to find other people a few other crazy folks like me who decided to begin their year that way mostly locals. I don't think anybody had traveled for this. But it was a nice little ca- moderate had forty of us are so at at that moment when the sun crests over the water all yellen happy new year to each other And then from that moment. I was off very poorly planned very last minute kind of a trip. As i'm negotiating all those travel arrangements on the fly but then as it got closer to the end of the year i knew that it would be really cool if i could end where the sun sets last. And so i look that up. And the westernmost point in the contiguous. Us is an olympic national park. And so i thought well perfect. That's what what poetry. I'm beginning ending in a national park and i'm already to book my ticket and then i remember something that i'd read about in maine. Which is that the truth of cadillac mountain being where the sun i rise in the. Us is only true for part of the year because of the tilt of the earth. Mars hill maine sees the first sunrise for half the year than half year. It's cadillac mountain. And i realized oh crap. That's probably true westernmost point and how did that night thinking so i emailed the navy the naval observatory by when i'm trying to do any chance i'm right in the right. Unfortunately you're not right. Oh no i know says how is it going to be some guys backyard. Where is it and it turns out. It was at point. Reyes national seashore in california Maybe an hour. And a half from san francisco still park service. Land not technically a national markets national seashore. But i was lucky. That it just wasn't like chucky cheese. Somewhere in oregon. Yeah because that's a beautiful and dramatic point to wrap it. All up ended up being perfect. So that's where. I was on new year's eve watching the sunset last as i had the longest year. You could possibly have in the contiguous. Us in terms of daylight. And i loved every minute of it and you had three hundred sixty five days to visit fifty-nine parks at the time. I guess there's a few more perks now but back. Then there was fifty nine parks. You had to chart it out because you wouldn't wanna go. Oops i missed too. So he had it all carefully. We've checked off and figured out. Did that pretty much. Keep you going all the time. What's that that's a park every five or six days. I appreciate that. You think ahead at carefully plotted out. It wasn't it wasn't so careful. You're right that i couldn't miss any of them but with his weird puzzle of weather and geography and then story selection because what was paying for. Some of this was was my job at some guests. Had to find certain stories so i went to mount rainier national park but the story. I was doing their involved interview with the secretary of the interior. She was there for one day. And so i had to make sure i was there on that day otherwise i would have never gone to that on that day. I did a story of the sled dog puppies at denali national park in alaska. And i'm trying to get there in time for their birth. You know or right right after they were born when the sort of at peak cuteness but that involve me making phone calls from great basin national park in nevada months earlier. This creepy guy calling the parks trying to figure out if their dogs had made it yet. So i could my trip there. But that's what i sort of had that. Okay the rest of my last trip around that but you know it's an interesting puzzle. Some parks aren't accessible for parts of the year. So you have to factor. That in. I royale in michigan shuts down after october. And so that's that's a park. I knew i had to get to before then or else. I wasn't going to get there at all. So if i was going to zion or bryce or yosemite i would get a guidebook to give me the places to eat and sleep and all that. And you didn't do that in your book. You cover all the parks you cover the entire year in your book. Leave only footprints. But you organized it by themes. And i found that to be really interesting and i'd love to just kind of say one of the themes and let you share how you wove that together from your experience. Water for instance isn't interesting theme. That would really intersect with the grandeur of the parks as has so hot springs. National park in arkansas was actually protected before yellowstone. It wasn't deemed a national park back. Then they had a different designation for it but that was for the the healing waters of hot springs. The valley of the vapors people used to go there. Medicinally doctor would write you a prescription in new york city. Say if you want to treat that syphilis go down the take a bath for two weeks ultimately sciences figured out that that was probably it. Didn't it didn't hurt but it wasn't really helping but there's these beautiful bath houses. They are all from the golden age of bathing and so in the book. I link that park and the healing power of that water. The supposed healing power With disdain national park in florida a park that is ninety five percent water. Five percent land of both of those parks. I don't think people think of. When they think of national parks and very early in the year i had to stop thinking of parks in that yosemite stone. Kind of way is hot springs in the middle of the city. Biscayne is is mostly the ocean. But whether i was diving at biscane or taking a naked seven bath in arkansas. I was able to sort of link the experience of that water of the of the healing properties of that that i experienced in that chapter. And that's an important point for all of us. I think if. I'm to think of a national park. I like most people. I think of five or six conic parks but there's of course many more of focuses in the parks and so on how 'bout animals animals can be a big part of the experience. My favorite memory of that was at cat. My national park in alaska. If you've ever seen any footage of a bear eating salmon from a waterfall chances are that was shot at by others. A place in that part called brooks falls that has what they a predictable eruption which means every year the salmon come back to the same place. They jump up that waterfall. The bears to figure that out. So it's sort of a conveyor sushi restaurant mayors they just hang out down and it's possible from a safe distance to watch. The bears could care less than there's people. They've got a feast of salmon to fast up for the winter but the bears don't confine themselves to that area and so that's a park where they tell you to make noise which is the opposite of what you think of it a park. But it's the only one that i went to where there was a mandatory orientation they put you through bear school and the lessons are simple but important in one of those licenses make noise when you hike and there was a moment that i'm describing the book where i i forgot that lesson and when you're by yourself that can be very scary experience to stumble upon a baram sherwood scary for them too. But i lived to tell the tale so for your own safety make noise. Let the bears you coming in. Blind said we don't want to surprise beer. The worst thing you could do would be to surprise. If they know you're coming they would rather graham travel with rick steves. We're talking with knighton. Connor spent a year visiting each of america's national parks in order to create a series of video travel reports for cbs. sunday march. Takes us behind the scenery as writes about what each of these parks showed his book. We've only we've linked to connors work with this week. Shots rick steves dot com slash radio. I think the impact of a park really to a great extent is not just how magnificent the park is. But what you take with it. There's a psychological emotional component. Did a park hibbard drive you to tears because of something that was going on inside of you petrified forest national park in arizona It's a beautiful park protected for its stockpiles of petrified. Wood the History of people taking that would what surprised me and what surprised the park is that sometimes people send that would back and it's normally accompanied with a a long letter and apology note of saying. Hey listen i took this. When i was seven and you know i've i've since realized it was a bad thing to do. Let me take it back and so the park accepts all of that but unfortunately they can't put it back at that point. It's lost its scientific value. No one really knows where it came from and it would screw up a scientist results so they have this pile of wood way down a dirt road. It's not part of the park. Experience that they call the conscience pile and it's massive. Just sort of this weird monument to people trying to do the right thing but a little too late and as someone who's had that experience in his own life that is something that moved me to tears. I mean certainly. I had that experience of a beautiful vista. Yes a bald eagle soaring but the sad little pile of shiny iraq's got to me it just it just felt so human that experience conscience pile leads me to ask about the impact of global climate. Change if you visited the parks. I would think you'd be a little more tuned in to the fragility of nature so dr. The former director of the national park service has said that climate change is fundamentally the greatest threat facing the integrity of the national parks. And there's not a part that is immune from its effects but apartments particularly clear is Glacier national park in montana the glacier that is in the name on the sign it will have no more glaciers within fifteen years or so from now. I mean frazier in my lifetime. There will be no glaciers left at that park. And so they are took a hike with a re photographer. So amana works for the us geological survey who is going to take pictures from the same exact location that a picture had been taken and say the nineteen thirties to document what had been lost. I mean he certainly has the charts and graphs and the data to prove that. But there's something about seeing that information visually. That was really powerful. And he knows that's why it is and so he goes back and takes a picture and you see that. I mean it got photos of a guy standing on a block of ice at seventy feet tall. That guy would be floating seventy feet in the air today. I mean all that ice is gone and so they are in the key knife yours in alaska and other ice focus park where they've got signs the show you where the ice used to be a much. The visual impact makes a difference there. This is travel with rick steves. We're talking with conor knighton. He's our guest. He's written about his year visiting each of the national parks and the lessons that each one has to offer. That's in his book. Leave only footprints. Hundreds had a series of these travel reports based on his experiences in the parks. That aired. On cbs sunday morning. His website is conor knighton dot com connor. When i'm walking on a ridge high in the alps. I always feel like that's the greatest cathedral. There's just something about being on top of a mountain when you enjoy getting close to god. Are there any times in these national parks where he just felt like saying. Thank god many. And i think if someone responsible for a lot of the language that we use to talk parks is john. Muir who wrote about those grand cathedrals of nature and likened yosemite a lot to god's greatest temple. I certainly felt that there. I felt that at lake. Clark national park in alaska very remote one and their i stumbled upon a church camp where people fly wounded veterans to this lodge on the edge of the park. All expenses paid. They bring their spouses there as well as a chance for them to deal with some of the ptsd. They might be experiencing to reconnect with their spouses. This was not. I wrote about in the book i would have loved to have done a tv story on it. I just didn't realize it was there until i was there. So people are getting baptized in that lake. I continue to think of god through the methodist protestant lens that i grew up in but just the idea of nature or spirituality however you choose to define that or or god or that feeling of something greater than yourself. I think it's it's hard not to feel that in a park. There's a writer. I believe named j b priestley who described the grand canyon. The you know the colorado river made it but you can't help but think that god gave the colorado elections. So that's how i thought i mean there's a lot of science to be learned. That was fascinating. I believe that it's you know the millions and millions of years old. I don't think it was all made five thousand years ago but you still feel that. There's something you know play. That is hard to describe. I think it's kind of a freedom to let yourself go in that regard in john muir did too i. I love the way wrote about john muir and how he called the hills groves were like god's first temples and i love this what he said something about the more they cut down and the land and the trees in order to build churches the dimmer the presence of the lord seems in other words. God was more present in the natural habitat than cutting down those trees and building a church and there is a church in yosemite valley believe. It's the oldest church they are but galen clark who was. I think it was early in the creation of that parking. Forget his exact title but like had an interesting essay about it where he's like. Why was the on earth. Would you stand in this plywood. The wooden structure look out and see it right around there. If you're inclined to raise your hands to glorify god dude on top of a mountain not little plywood building absolutely john muir even capitalize nature like the word. god is capitalized. I mean that was yeah. It must have inspired him and something else that inspires travelers. I would think when they visit. The parks is just the silence. It's sometimes were almost afraid of silence and you can find powerful silence in the parks so it great sand dunes national park in colorado it has been measured to be the quietest place in the country. There are a couple of other places that it sometimes so like yellowstone in the winter is particularly quiet. crater sometimes In hawaii is quiet so debatably be quiet as but say top five. It is so silent. Part of that is our motive is part of it is the sand. We should be recording this interview in the sand dunes because that would be quieter than any recording studio that exists. I mean it is just the sand sucks the sound in and dead ends it and it can be spooky hearing conversations from hundreds of feet away. You're hearing your heartbeat. You're hearing you know the hairs in your ear gigolo around especially if you're coming from a noisy place it could be a very unsettling bit of quiet until you ease into that and really appreciate that for what it is because a lot of times we don't know what quiet is. We put up with a something less than quiet and in that sense real quiet can actually be a kind of loud quiet a different experience and it makes other sound seem much louder so with that. That's a park where you can hear a car coming from far farther away than you would suburban st same thing with an airplane. And so i was there with an audiologist with the park. Service natural sounds and night skies division. Which is an organization based in fort collins who studies this and they studied the impact. That sound has on animals. I mean as you can imagine. If you're like a bird calling or or or no commu going and your mating ritual involves the other your counterpart hearing that call the louder. It is the har that's going to be road. Noise can affect predator. Prey relationships are too scared to go out and get their food. And so it's an issue where they're they're trying to minimize the sound that we create an apart- huma call sound anyway. This is travel with rick. Steves talking with conor knighton who invested a year of his life. I would imagine it was the best year ever have as far as wondering how to use your time. Smartly and with impact in order to write this book leave only footprints acadia to zion journey to every national park in connor. You took your own emotions in your own needs in your own human frailty with you on this adventure new sheriff so intimately in the book and i'd like to wrap things up with just a quick mention about how you say you're looking for love in your life and the kind of love you dream of is a national park kind of love. What does that mean. An my cameraman. Who had been traveling with made fun of me for that analogy sick man that easing you've gone too far apart you've gone to nerdy in this world but to beat. That's how i like things. There are state parks and there are perfectly great. State parks perfectly great national monuments but somehow these national parks feel unique and special. And there's not just one. I mean since this journey started with a failed engagement. You know. I had to remind myself that there are other fishes. He had to think that. But i still what i want my own life. Is that national park kind of something. That feels a little different than a little special than the rest. And maybe there's not one but there's no a few and finding one of those that's the right match for me is still something that i'm on the hunt for but it is something but i'm confident that will come my way when i'm ready for it. Well best wishes to that. And with your inspiration from book leave only footprints. We can find that national park kind of love in nature. Thanks.