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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 294: Trouble in Dallas, Tampa Struggles

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 294: Trouble in Dallas, Tampa Struggles

"Golden state media concepts fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy football news and advice sign rooted draft, first round, cowing Gaga, and how a lot of your team got. You covered traditionally sinus steam leaks. He Arlene I DP DP lead even daily Fantasy Football League Djilas we'd breakdown all the question of fantasy football. It's the golden state media concepts, fantasy football podcast. A. Welcome to the G.. The fantasy football podcast on the GMC podcast network I'm their hosts that you hear. On Tuesdays and Fridays Ethan and we got a lot to talk about our first week of the NFL basically as wrapped up according to before the to Monday night games, you hear me on the GMC football podcast to talk about those with my partner in Crime Mr Bryce but I talk about what happened on Sunday men and a lot of things did end up occurring on Sunday. I gotta say some things went nice things went really really bad and for the most part. You know we're looking okay I've secured. Basically one one league got to. Basically, for the DUB if I go back and look at. What my team is looking like for the for the for. League. In Yahoo, sports where I am. I have a one, twenty, three point seventy, eight lead over a fifty. Three point fifty four this is NPR so. Have Russell Wilson who had himself a day Russell Wilson had a day. We're GONNA talk more about the Falcons and the second. Versus. The seahawks. Russell Wilson had an excellent day Amari Cooper? In a non PR league he had eighty something yards not. But if it was pr kind of eight and I do have him in the PR league. So it's not too horrible was going on here. has defined digs who had similar similar things going on eight, eighty, six yards on the day a pretty decent outing no score Clyde ever declare we talked about him on Friday. I was wrong as far as I know right now week one I was wrong about his eighty p being a bit too high and he looks like somebody pretentiously win you your league and Josh Jacobs is another guy who I wasn't wrong about I always knew he was good but my Josh Jacobs had himself a game. We look at his statistics man. Josh Jakup's had himself a wonderful football game wonderful football game man. It thirty one fantasy points. Non PTR. It wasn't really catching the ball like that. He had ninety three rushing yards three rushing touchdowns on twenty five attempts. Four receptions for forty six yards. Jazz? Jacobs. Was An animal He played of course against Carolina. So we don't know of Carolina's run defenses all that. And they have a lot of rookies like remember they drafted like their whole life did your after the whole defense in the draft that is going in they have a Lotta guys playing out there a lot of new things but for the most part that is the case right now. Josh Jacobs looked really, really good. Jared Cook pretty good too. He didn't have a touchdown, but Jerry Cook had eighty yards. He had a big play that basically helped the saint secure the win. They didn't have that play I. Don't know what happened in that game. We'll talk about that later on. As well, but Marlon Mac for me up. Okay. Here we go. Here's here's paintime. Right? We start a new segment. What is pain time? Well, for the first week paintime I wanNA say pain town but paintime the obviously the Marlin Mac pain because. You've been listening to me for a little minute. I have been a supporter of Marlon Mac for awhile and this year a kind of double down on the Marlin Mac support saying that the Jonathan Taylor hype is unwarranted. And I still believe that it was unwarranted even though for us for US supporters of Marlin, Mac is not looking good right now. So I sent Marla Mac was gonna be the guy for majority of the season I think that the Jonathan Taylor stuff was out of place and his ADP was way too high for what? For what he was probably going to bring for the majority of the season. And the first quarter of that game, we looked like we were on cloud nine for Marlin Mac supporters man he was doing his thing. and. You know things will work and you have four Russia's for twenty six yards, three targets, receptions, three receptions, thirty yards. He didn't really get that many passing looks last year at all. So the fact that he was catching out of the backfield was very promising. And then of course, unfortunately, he tore his ACL this year and Now. It's a say Jonathan Taylor backfield in hime hines If you were able to grab hines in the waiver wire, the probably the best decision that you can do Heinz had a really good game fantasy wise for his career. He had a really big time eighty, nine yard touchdown run that most people did not expect him to have, and then he had another touchdown score I believe as well in the game which buffalo did not end up coming out with the DUB they ended up losing to Jacksonville Week One Philip the not look the best that game. But someone to look out for parents Campbell. He got some touches that game he definitely looked like somebody who feel rivers enjoys the target we'll have to keep that monitored for sure but that indeed looks to be a case of something that might end up being something but recipes Marlin. Mac. For Fantasy football days, it was a tough go Sad to see that I can't see my take all the way through and a lot of the Jonathan Taylor guy kind of celebrating. In a way that well I mean they're not though rain. Let me not say that I don't think they're celebrate injury. I just mean in. You know sometimes it sucks when you don't get to take all the way through and then other guys get to rejoice because they ended up taking the guy that you put your faith in and that's just said it stinks nobody wants that. But it is what it is. Fairburn pay or played earlier, and he didn't really do much because unfortunately, Houston couldn't get their offense rolling and then. Buffalo had a pretty strong outing against the jets. It was basically over after like the first half. Of the jets did find themselves in ends on a couple of times but all in all eight points from Buffalo, defense is pretty solid. So. That's probably one of the better defensive performances that we got Latte or this week. far as my bench goes of course, you know, Mile. Sanders. That's the reason why Martin Mac even was in my line Mouth Sanders was out in Washington while talk about Jacqueline, high performance for Carson Wentz I Hopefully turns it around man because I have a feeling that Carson wentz was going to have a good year this year and the first quarter first half Carson Wentz he looked like a guy who was about to turn the corner again into being elite in that conversation he looked good. He was making the right read who's making all the right throws, but then something just flipped really no but Washington's defense I've been saying Washington's defense is not as bad as people think it is and. Even, all that being said, you know Haskins didn't look the greatest again. So. You know it's very possible that there are going to get another the quarterback in a few months but. Y- DWAYNE hoskins hopefully improve for them. if you've been paying attention, Washington had a few running backs out there that they that they gave some looks too. So don't be surprised. You know. If you drafted one thinking that he was the guy he like they might be running by committee. Michael Gallup you had a decent day. All Things considered talk about the cowboys and full real soon because you know I did go kind of all in on the cowboys this year, and he's now look like cowboys you know he had fifty yards, three receptions, five targets in the game yet a big on call back for offense of Pi which is kind of a little bit controversial cannery know what to say about it personally. But we'll talk about it more. Coming up. Jarvis Landry in a in a drubbing against the Baltimore Ravens Baltimore really shut them down whole game. He had sixty one yards and five receptions. So he had five targets in the game. Hey. You're lucky to have that sort of thing. Thirty eight to eight loss or thirty eight to six law says nothing nothing anybody wants to be a part of you don't want to be on the opposite end of that thirty eight to six and unfortunately Cleveland once again, man getting drubbed Another Odell drafters or not feeling good either or the nick job grafters in a sense. But. Nick job and Kareem Hunt Look like they were in game sense. They looked pretty good but. once again, Stefanski just crazy kitchen's kind of had to go away from the run because they were down so much but. At the end of the day. They're here we go. This team is gonNA move or make or Baker Mayfield moves and Mayfield didn't have a great game today. Leonard Fournette he didn't get that many looks. But I wouldn't be too worried if you did draft them pretty high, you just going to have to wait until he gets his legs a need that offense and figure things out. But when he was out there, he looked like. He. Looked like a Leonard. Fournette. Should I say it didn't look like he was not picking up what was going on or he was too slow like he had training camp like he has a training camp in him. He like a guy who? Looked like he was physically okay I. Guess he just was not in the game plan too much. But as a Saints Fan, he worries me because when you dig in the game. Leonard looks like he's going to be impact player for them even though we'll talk about more about that big marquee game that happened a lot of things transpiring for sure. and I picked up Boston Scott of course because of the Mile Sanders Injury Boston Scott had about four or five point four. In. His in his stat categories. So not too much change there. As far as my ESPN League, I am down twenty points exactly basically and I only have one player to play. It is James Connor. If James Garland is not get twenty one points. I don't get it up so. WanNa know why that happened. Well, here we go. Let's start with You Know Casey's defense. Gave me five points wasn't horrible I enjoyed I. Enjoy what they did They got I N T which was nice and I took a gamble on them in mindset of believing that a team that scores a lot of points will go up against the team that has to throw the ball and throwing the ball lot can be risky and you can throw interceptions so and get sacked. So that's why took them and for the most part. I was pretty accurate on that wasn't horrible but everything else Kinda went sideways on me in a sense camakers wasn't the best start in my flex over anybody else I thought he'd get more looks but Mr Brown over there, look like to be the running back of the day for la in that might be a bit concerning I'm not ready to panic yet. Maybe camakers turns it on later on in the season. But as of right now, in early games, I might have to sit him for somebody else unfortunately Kenny Golladay did not play and that really put a monkey wrench into my whole team I had to start somebody in his place and unfortunately picked the wrong guy put impressed in Williams I. thought he'd be a decent a decent option because I wasn't sure how the You know how New England was going to play. MIAMI. But I guess when we look at Miami has a team of holistically I should have seen this coming. You know this is bill. Belichick. He knows what he's doing I should've went another direction. He only got six points in this Pr. So forty hours to receptions I had a lot of guys that could have helped me out on my bench Jerry became and had a receiving touchdown thirteen points ahead Peres Campbell who had fourteen points off the sixers perceptions for seventy yards. I had Madison who had twelve points David. Montgomery was on my bench with eight points I'm not too worried about you know we'll figure it out as the day goes on Thank you to Alvin Kamara. I wish he could have got that last touchdown in in the game it would have helped quite a bit. If you know what I'm saying in the fantasy and fantasy spectrum would have made this This deficit a lot easier to manage. Austin Hooper. I just maybe I just live in regret too much man but having another Cleveland Cleveland Guy on my Rossier is not feeling good because I really could use you know I'd try to go target Jerry Cook. In my leagues thought he was being undervalued and I think that he is honestly one of the better options on the saints offense because Michael Thomas Take so much attention and because Kamara take much attention. We did see quite healthy touch ratio for Jerry Cook, and of course, our Emmanuel Sanders had some to. But at this point I, really don't know where I stand with. Austin Hooper, and in this league I don't know if I can try them away. So I might just be stuck with him for a while and we'll just have to wait and see what happens but David and. He was the one who got the big touchdown. anyway. So It might just be a chance to to wait and see what's going to happen. But I have three cowboys players on my roster one greg's our line who had four points. He missed a field goal that you know his Greg's airline on over the mind what happened there but I'd hack in item Mike. Hooper Amari Cooper had a decent day I wish you could have got an end zone but ten receptions for eighty one yards pretty pretty solid performance Why receiver one numbers in my opinion lungs like you know if he gets an end zone that's a really good day but he did what he needed to do Dak unfortunately did not do what he needed to do. A Dak only two, hundred, sixty, six yards one touchdown. expect more out of today and I really needed to show up and this was This is kind of pedestrian numbers offense that we all thought was going to be pretty prolific. All in all, it's just one of those days you know Zeke ended up getting a lot more rushing touches than I expected but we're gonNA take our first break in Mogi come back talking more fantasy football and more football Janelle G. S. MC All right we'll be right back with some GMC in a second. But first we have to talk about our good friends from dollar shave. Club and if you haven't heard a dollar shave, club has great razors. Let me be the first to welcome you into the club stop buying expensive razors out of the habit and start thinking about joining dollarshaveclub today right now through dollar Shave Club's ultimate shave starter set for a one time trial offer of only five bucks plus free shipping. 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Basically fifty points from. Derrick Henry and. James Connor which you know it's possible. But I don't think it's that probable like keep in mind he is down a whole basically seventy points he would need a combined seventy from. Derek can re and James Connor. So. that. This is non P pr this. I mean not to say there P PR type players anyway so What can what can you really do for him not too much but He stays down and does not get back up but. I definitely need James Carnegie Twenty points this week And hopefully, the steelers offensive line can hold up and maybe the giants don't look too great I don't WanNa see them i. don't WanNa, see passing this play about that. If you know what I'm saying now, trying to see that but also if they do hopefully rothlisberger located and he is able to get James Connor some looks in the backfield shut out album Kamara with. You know with the flat routes that the saints were giving them 'cause. They weren't working all the time, but you know consistency matters and they kept going after it and doing what they needed to do. So I wanted to cover a couple of games that I watched. Over that span of a Sunday and what exactly does was pretty interesting first game that I watched was the seahawks versus the Atlanta Falcons where the Atlanta Falcons took it now and a pretty big loss. It was. It was all over the place as the game, but the guys who you expect it to perform well, pretty much did what they needed to do. So some surprises was a russell gauges involvement in the offense for the most part. In hearse wasn't really that involved in the game at all. So Russell, gauge had himself a pretty solid performance. All things considered being basically the fourth option on a team. He had twenty points, nine receptions for one hundred and fourteen yards of that was a been garbage time are there times you know he was the only guy open and it looked like Matt Ryan was looking at target him a bit so. You. Know. Russell gauge might be somebody who's on your waivers, and if you're really you know hurting for wide receiver depth or something like that he might be a guy you wanna get interested in. As far as. Julio Remember when I said that my one of my boulder predictions for the year was that Julio was going to be pushing for his last great wide receiver season of the year. Well, he oh, definitely definitely put that in for one who we owe said I am the best wide receiver in the League week one. Here we go. The man had about I, believe ten receptions for one hundred, fifty something yards. No touchdowns but that's okay. We're used to that with Julio the volume was there and he definitely looked like a guy who could not be guarded by just about anybody in the league matter what he He looked like somebody who was really out there to prove something unfortunately, his team couldn't get the dove for him but you know in these situations, it's funny to say that any guy loses like that. But Julio maybe team laws with Julio didn't lose that day. Todd Gurley. So tired he got a touchdown in he. He looked like he moved. Okay. That often. Them too many favors. When he got out in the screen game or in the Quick Tara sorta sweep game he looked decent He's not the one hundred percent the same todd that we saw MVP level but. Tardelli does not look nearly as bad. Of course, he did have twelve touchdowns last year. So let's keep in mind yet twelve rushing touchdowns last year but. You know he's not the same guy. Obviously Because of the whole arthritis situation but maybe things will look better as the season goes on but yet tigon end zone. So that's a good sign. They look they want him involved in offense. Over and often not too many. For getting in ahead of him and that's a good sign Matt Ryan threw the ball fifty times and had like. Four hundred plus yards passing but he kind of had no choice because they were behind for a long time. I don't know the deal Dan. Quinn. And this isn't something new to say is isn't some news breaking coaching dissection here but I wonder how long is it going to take before Dan Quinn might be on the chopping block mid season I know. Arthur blank has a history of firing coaches in the middle seasons. That's something he doesn't like to do. But. This was a loss that didn't look good for different reasons now. Dan. Quinn was really aggressive this game he went for four down I believe five times and I am certain that he didn't get it four out of those five times. I'm not sure if he got the fifth time but I know for the majority of these, he did not get the fourth down conversions and put them in some peculiar situations defensively, and honestly I don't think the Falcons defense was that horrible today are they got a lot of pressures on? Russell Wilson they made a move in the pocket a lot Russell Wilson just really good and at offense pretty good Chris Carson had himself a game and a half for sure Chris Carson. Really really good in the passing game and in the overall run game, he looked to be the Chris Carson. We saw last year before the injuries and that is a positive sign for Seattle as they're going to need him to be a man amongst boys there for shore We saw some interesting things that otherwise receiver group Taraki got a Lotta looks and so did de Que a lot of drops in the game a big one too. That could have secured another touchdown I believe or like, yeah. Open space to be able to run and make something happen but. decay digging score. So we did score and he had a basically good volume of numbers. So his hands are going to be a bit of an issue right now but I still think that over the season, we're going to see a lot more decay in the conversation the big time fantasy guy, and is already looking to see the inklings of that early on. Calvin really had a big day touchdown. Actually two touchdowns for Calverley. Once again, he's feasting off of being on opposite side of Julio, and honestly it's just very strange cabin really of the guy who looks like. He can econo- just fades in and out of the offensive I don't mean that the negative way just Kinda sometimes you like I wonder who that is and Julio Ridley and now it's also almost russell. GAIJIN sense little. You don't really know who's catching the ball out the time. Really Julio, only one that you can definitely recognize most times because of his size like Julios. Very. Physically imposing wide receiver so you can kind of see what's going on but other than that you know that looks to be. Often is looks to be what is going to be in that is who he was going to get a lot of volume everybody else. If the passing game is that strong what you look? Pretty good. THEY'RE GONNA put up a lot of numbers no matter the case but I will say this before the Game Kinda got out of hand in the South and society to throw the ball every play. They were definitely committing to the run game that is something to to watch the Falcons wanted to establish the run even when they were down about ten fourteen points within the third quarter, they were trying to continue to establish the run. So that was something that the Falcons have tried to push for a while like if you're around the Falcons sports media Atlanta sports media, you know that Are abandoning run something that is a bit of taboo here. A lot of people don't like that and a lot of people want more balanced on want more balanced attack on offense, and for the most part, the Thakin's tried to deliver that it was the kind of too little too late situation and they didn't read the room well and going for it on fourth down five times against the defense that legitimately looked scary this year I. will say Jamal Adams did not. They did not give up enough for Jamal Adams because. As much as people, WanNa talk about how you know running backs don't get paid, which looks running back getting paid now and how safeties are kind of right there next to him as guys you don't WanNa overpay for because they come a dime a dozen. Demolish Adams is a different breed he a different impact player and Seattle, at this point looks like they they probably gave enough. But that game right there he was all over the field in the first half. He was doing things defensively that he was making some big time tackles time hit just everywhere. There was one hit on Julio where he basically missed tackle initially Julio, bounced off him but he still was able to have the game sense to go and grab his ankles insecure the rap tackle, take him down. And basically, security fourth-down punt. Jamal Adams man he's all he was all over the field. He did have a kind of a helmet-to-helmet though he was kind of playing a little reckless but You KINDA WANNA guy like that on your team for shore in Seattle knew what they needed to do to go get him. So that is pretty solid for him. Pretty solid. So Falcons, Seattle we're seeing some thing that both teams and look pretty decent man. So that's a big time. We're GONNA be big time guys for fantasy I shore. Real. Quick Buffalo 'cause buffalo the team that everybody is going to be pencilling to see what exactly is happening Zach boss a lot more. At the end zone. then. Terry did as far as fantasy points are concerned. Already talked about defined digs, he looks like a number one where I receiving when he was GonNa get John Brown, definitely benefit from having a guy who is going to take majority of the attention and that's okay Josh Allen had some some good games. Yeah. More rushing attempts than most of the running back did at a certain point he had like eight to one and rushing attempts. And you know Josh Allen. Looked okay. It's the jets though. So let's all taper expectations here, but it was the jets and that definitely does not bode well. For. The buffalo hype train just because we don't know exactly what they look like against real competition. But the jets They had some things going for them. Overall they did get some points on the board. The thing he got hurt I don't know what that means for his overall season to season but we'll see what the what next week brings for him but as far as that go. As far as that goes excuse me. I, don't really know. But Adam. Gates is on hot seats for shore. And that's the I l. to to bring it into conversation when he's going to be fired. So there's any guys on the hot seat right now it's him Dan Quinn. and. That's basically the supreme heart seeds right now we don't have any superior hot seat the hot take seats going on. maybe a sneaky one might be Frank Reich but I think they do like him over there in Indianapolis but he's definitely that loss was not not a good one and Philip rivers did not help them whatsoever. To you I didn't look too good. It's GOING GONNA be a struggle for a lot of teams Oh, I'm Bill O'Brien of course, Bill O'Brien is probably on the hot seat to. speaking of Bill. O'Brien the guy who let go right? De'andre Hopkins Mr Grateful period he was grateful today he had a big time game big touchdown or big. At the one yard line. Game should I say He did his thing man he was him Calamari they look good. Keane or Kenyan drake looked really good. Their offense looks prolific. They're able to do some things against forty nine is once again. So this looks like be a team that you know cliff Kingsbury knows knows how to deal with too often to head coaching know prodigies duke it out. Jimmy G. also looks like he's having some issues making making some solid read. So that's no good. That's not what you want. How do you quarterback and also joys kindle did not look one hundred percent healthy coming back from that ankle twists that he had mid game that was kind of setup by basically a bad throw by Jimmy G.. So I don't think that was the greatest greatest tandem today but. see bounced back we're gonNA take another break and we'll get into some more games coming up G. M.. Check out the show that's built on the from UFC, two extreme cage fighting they got the fights covered check out the GS MC. PODCAST get the latest news on past or coming fights join us as we talked to in about some of the biggest names in the M e. 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Matthew Stafford and the gang basically control the game for majority of it, and then of course, things went haywire of course, as per Detroit's fashion than of losing and a close one in the fourth quarter where rookie Andre, we've had a chance to seal the game with a game winning touchdown that he had in his hands and they just slipped out and dropped it man and ends on it's a tough. Look and then the next passing through was nowhere even close to being as a good of a look unfortunately. So Matthew Stafford and the game ended up taking L. Against the bears who all in for all accounts had. Mitchell. Trubisky the trubisky supporters had themselves a fever dream in that fourth quarter as he put up some points to seal the win and get the lead back I don't really know what this means for. Anthony. Miller and the gang I don't know what this means for David. Montgomery. But for this week, all the trubisky supporters get to say. He's not that bad today. So if you're waking up this morning thinking that you know Mitchell trubisky is not that bad just remember. Weeks can change because there are seven days within every NFL playtime except for Thursday night. So anything can really change. I'M NOT GONNA sit here and overreact to it. But I will say that Kenny Golladay was a bit missed. I know everybody saw that Marvin Jones truck display that he had against the bears which was awesome. Football is. Back. But You know. The NFC nor is an interesting division. And they play hard and they try and maybe we should not automated. The team like. The bears is going to lay down and be the worst team in that division. No matter what the The team paid the team says on paper would quarterbacks are they like to fight and they fight hard when the team that's solid. As they can be, they can make it hard on you another team in that division real quick that we should probably go ahead and get into covering is the packers who ended up going up against Minnesota food for all for all accounts the packers win and put something on a team yesterday. Minnesota or at least I should say Air Rogers looked about as good as he could have ever looked this week and that thank something because a lot of people predicted myself included that he would not look like this. He was on target a lot. He looked good and his stats looked even better. So It was definitely a game that will bode well for the packers moving on moving forward but a forty three to thirty four win against the Vikings who for the first half basically looked dead they. The Vikings couldn't move the ball. They didn't have a lot of possessions. to be able to move the ball, Kirk cousins nineteen of twenty, five to fifty, nine, two touchdowns interception. That'd be pretty as a pretty solid kirk cousins game. That's what you'd normally see Donald Cook the new pay guide two touchdowns for fifty yards Aaron Jones Sixty six with one touch down the big receiving day for both Adam Zealand and dea devante Adams onto had fourteen receptions for one, hundred, fifty, six yards and two touchdowns Aras thirty to forty, four, three, sixty, four in four touchdown passes he was prolific in the passing game This was kind of a throwback performance comparative to last year Aaron Rodgers not throwing the ball forty four times. Last year I don't believe And to be honest, I, think we all expected more out of the out of the defense here for the Minnesota Vikings but you know sometimes things happen and you just have to deal with it for. All intents and purposes I think Aaron Jones getting that touchdown really helped him out like it does most times but Aaron Jones not. Wasn't as nearly effective he did get the ball sixteen times and that should matter to some degree but at the same time. You know receiving is he really was not as big of a factor compared to everybody else of course, devante items. had almost more receiving yards than everybody else combined on the team. or essay received receptions more than anybody else on the team but vantage gatling. You know he had forced absence for ninety six touchdown, a forty, five yard reception in his own right Allen lazard another guy who had a pretty big reception he had four for sixty three and then Jamal Williams had four for twenty. One in Aaron Jones had four for ten yards. So once again, he's not the best receiving back out there and him being in the run game is going to be what basically helps out more than ever Aj. Dylan only had one only had two carries for fourteen yards Aaron Jones sixteen. and he definitely lead that whole team in carries and in yardage. was going on with the Vikings while they didn't touch the ball that many times they have a lot of possessions. if you look at the team statistics. The time of possession. For each team, the packers had forty four minutes worth of possession. The Minnesota Vikings that eighteen? Minutes forty four seconds. That is. That's crazy. That's a lot of possession for you know. Green Bay and that does tell me something about Green Bay's defense though that only in eighteen minutes they did not have. They did not have the ball a lot and they're able to put thirty four points to me that offense is pretty good this year Minnesota was. Three of six on third down. So that's pretty good. But unfortunately, the packers had six of eleven. at third efficiencies and they did get a fourth down conversion out of two. They had seventy six total plays out of or seventy plays while missile vikings had fifty. And they had five, hundred, twenty, two total offensive yards. It was they add ten total drives each which is pretty interesting but unfortunately, the time possessions of what was the difference their. Yards per play they both averaged about seven yards per play, and that is a bit worrisome for both of their defenses so. All in all that turnover that Minnesota had up being a big difference because they threw an interception and it was a seven point loss and a bitty in a pretty big barn burner of the game from for all things considered so. All in all, it's not very good for them and you know hopefully they'll be able to turn that around but we've seen how things go before. with Minnesota in the Green Bay, they like to give a little back and forth. This is nothing. New is a bigger score than usual that we're used to. moving onto the AFC east the Patriots do what the Patriots Do, and that's beating teams in the AFC. So the Patriots of New Look Cam Newton basically look like Carolina Panthers Cam Newton to rushing touchdowns two, hundred, fifty yards total on offense. He looked good. So the. Miami Dolphins did not look the best though. So Ryan is patch twenty, thirty, four, hundred, ninety, one yards in three interceptions. He was sacked once and I think he had nine pressures on him he was not good. QBR. Was Seventy two point seven and he had a passer rating of forty four point six not great Matt, Braida In his first look had five carries for twenty two yards. Mr Gasden had nine for forty John or Jordan Howard had eight carries for seven yards and one touchdown devante Parker. He led the team in or you todd in receptions with four along with gasoline and he had forty seven yards no touchdown Preston Williams had to forty one and he had a twenty one yard reception in his own right. So maybe things will look better for him as the season goes along. But this offense was not on whatsoever they played against a really good defense. In Who did lose a lot of pieces but you know it is, new. England New England had three hundred and fifty seven yards of offense We're all wondering what they will look like without you know Tom Brady and what they could bring to the table with new Look Cam Newton and. They had two hundred and seventeen rushing yards If we go and look at the statistics right now Cam Newton he had a solid game passing at one, fifty, five passing he had seventy five rushing yards. He led the team in rushing and attempts he had fifteen carries for seventy five yards two touchdowns average five yards carry. Ten. Ten carries for Tony Michelle for seven or thirty seven and one rushing touchdown in his own right. we did not see. A lot from any other running back rest birkhead had seven carries for thirty. Two other than that. Everybody else is Kinda out of the out of the picture. Jillian Ataman. Had Five receptions for fifty seven had eleven yards average per reception to kill Harry had five or sections thirty nine. So that's some pretty good sign for him to be a little bit more in the reception. Game James Whitehead three for thirty. Nikiel Harry did fumble though that's not a good look bill belichick does not like sloppy play but all in all was a pretty solid outing for the New England patriots and a new look and doing what they do. Now, this doesn't mean that they're they're points are gonNA look as low as the dead, but I think this is a good sign that you know bill belichick knows what he's. Doing with this offense and he is going to make his offense work for the players that he has and he's not somebody who's stuck in his ways him and of course, their offensive coordinator or going to have a good time here. This week man are GonNa have a good time and they're gonNA look to be able to do some things with cam that they couldn't do with. Patriots New England Tom Brady so is a whole new era football in New England and it's going to be interesting to see but one of the things that does not change is that New England will always be in the AFC east. And that does come with some weight as. You know. The dolphins haven't changed much yet. The did get their new quarterback, but he is not ready. And of course, we know that the jets are kind of in limbo and their only real competition is, of course, buffalo who has a lot of hype to them and Buffalo Handle business against their AFC east contenders or the AFC east rival in the jets so. That's where you have that. Moving on eagles versus Washington so this was a pretty big game for Washington to pick up their first win of the year it was a little bit of a Jekyll in high performance to say the least You Know Philadelphia had. Thirteen passing first downs so. They were moving the ball had nineteen first downs but Washington had eighteen Philadelphia, three less total plays and. The yardage in both games pretty low I. You know Philadelphia I figured they'd have a better offensive output this week but I just was not the case and unfortunately Carson Wentz he had a little bit of Jacqueline high-performance within him that I didn't really see happening he threw the ball forty times only to seventy. He had two interceptions that were pretty bad. He was sacked eight times it couldn't protect him QBR fourteen. And he had. of He. Averaged six point four yards per pass attempt. The run game was basically nonexistent Boston Scott. Did Not Look Great. And Corey. Did Not great either Dow's got. It had a big game eight receptions for one hundred and one in touchdown Zach Ertz got himself in the end zone as well. But that everybody else didn't look too great Jalen Reagan only have one reception there new rookie that they got in the first round. Everybody else basically one John Jackson to receptions it wasn't pretty wasn't a great loss. That's something that the Philadelphia Eagles thought they should be able to handle and you know everybody thought Washington would be one of the bottom half teams in the league. Some thought maybe even the worst team but they they deserve that win you know their defense was always pretty good and if they could figure out something on offense, it could have been a team that might be able to make some noise and I will say that so far. There often still is not going to be able to make some noise right now the way it stands. But looking at Washington as far as some players who might be able to look at for potential fantasy implications. Mr. Peyton Barber. You know he had two touchdowns last game. And he had seventeen carries where Tonio Gibson? he only had nine so that might be something to look at for sure I. Definitely, when picked him up in my league because I think that is a good sign for things to calm. All. Right. But we're GONNA take our final break and we're a move onto the last two games to discuss, and then we'll continue to talk about fantasy sports too. So GMC we'll be right. Back. Check out show built around the women of. From the UFC to the extreme caged fighting, we got the fights cover. The Golden State media concept's women's MMA podcast. The latest news of upcoming pipes discussions of previous matches. Join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game, you know where to listen to the golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast. All right GMC fantasy football nation with that last segment of the day, we gotta talk about to be happening. This Sunday so We want to talk about the cowboys I because I would rather save what happened in new. Orleans for the last bit of what we talk about today. But as I said in the first segment rain I block. Dallas kind of was a little bit of a disappointing outing as far as their offense was concerned, they didn't get a lot going and they had a lotta trouble on their offensive line to basically get Dak Prescott. The best. Protection that he possibly could. It's been a while that the cowboys had the the best often line the League nine no one that I came in their offense line was really really something to write home about. But you know it's not horrible often line now but it definitely did not have a great display to be able to predict deck the way. That you would want him to be protected and that is something to keep in mind moving on into the season. Now, of course, I was one of those guys who took. Prescott. In went all in on their offense I ended up making the stack of Daqing. Amari, Cooper which all intensive purposes wasn't a horrible idea. You Know Amari Cooper did his thing. And that was. All that could really ask for out of him considering the game situation but you know, Dak Prescott will sacked three times for twenty two yards He had a touchdown through for two sixty six and he threw the ball forty times now granted you may not want Dak Prescott to throw thirty nine times but that is just the what it is. Zeke. Had Twenty two carries for ninety six average four yards a carry, and he had a touchdown. The one of the biggest things is that they didn't allow Dak to really get into the run game as much as you would want him to. He had three thirty. Three carries thirty yards He really held him to stay in the pocket enforcing the past. Now, Amari Cooper led all team like led the team in receptions with ten and at eighty one yards CD. Lamb looked pretty good as a rookie. You know five receptions, fifty nine yards. And he looked pretty explosive and a guy that could be a difference maker down the stretch but the rams defense really made things difficult for them. Aaron Donald was we all seen the play I hope so far Aaron Donald. Pushing basically three cowboys live out of the way and getting the pressure on Dak Prescott lesson. We already know he's the best defensive player in the League. And it's not even close but he's basically pushing for the best best overall player in football and I wouldn't be I wouldn't hesitate. To correct somebody if they said that I wouldn't even bother I really do think Aaron. Donald. is a top three player in the NFL and it's not it's not debatable like you. It could be any given Sunday, where he is the best player in football and that's the that's with having someone like Patrick. Mahomes and Lamar Jackson, and guys than Julio Jones, and like you know guys like that in the League. Aaron Donald Is Different. Here's a different breed and a different level of player. Jared Goff, he went twenty for thirty one for two, seventy, five, one interception no touchdowns he was not sacked but only one time. So QBR was forty, four point three in Kyar can be kind of misleading stat but they had a pretty balanced attack between. Two running backs will three but Henderson really get the ball that much in the run game. Mr. Mr Malcolm Brown he he looked to be the guy that they like to lean on the goal line situations last night. So eighteen cared for seventy nine yards yet two touchdowns cam acres had fourteen carries for thirty nine two point eight yards per carry on his day and Robert. Woods broke out pretty nicely at he's six perception one, hundred, five, yard game averaged seventeen and a half per reception. Guber Cup had four for forty entirely higby had three for forty in his own right Mr Van Jefferson, he adds some looks on him but he dropped a few passes yet three targets with he had one reception for thirty one yard. So it might be somebody you look into it also getting in the passing game was Malcolm Brown with three thirty one. So if you have Malcolm Brown. And your team you're probably feeling pretty good that you picked him over camakers I'm still holding out hope that can makers is able to get something out of this and do some do some big time winning As far as the the numbers game but coming out of camp people were saying can make really good not to say that he didn't look good in the game last night but the where the situations led him to be in was not great. So. A little bit concerned on that end, we're gonNA need to see. Further down the line for Dallas is. We're GONNA have to hope that things change around for form as you know. They are going to have to go up against the Falcons this coming week, which could be a hit or miss if they get into a game environ burner with the Falcons that could be problematic in if we saw anything from Seattle game, is that the Falcons defensive line in front seven was able to get a pass rush going and if they weren't in precarious situations, you know. Granted by the offense putting them in fourth down turnover on downs situations they got the gave him four those at least maybe that game is a bit different and honestly the cowboys offensive line is going to need to look a lot better in the cowboys have had some problems. We have some injuries that they're going to have to to get around especially on the defensive side so. We're going to have to hope for the best on that, and maybe Dak in Amari. Cooper, can get that connection for us in our fantasy league and Hopefully get that going but the for the Falcons coming up next Sunday and then they have the following Sunday against the seahawks. Oh. Is Not going to be any easy pickings for the first three weeks of the season until they go up against the Browns who could obviously just turn it around and look like a better team and they did this Sunday and then they have New York in the cardinals in the following weeks after that so. the cowboys have a chance to make some noise here bounce back, but it's GonNa take a solid effort ends the moving pieces around because so many injuries that transpired during that game and in the off season in general the rams go up against the Eagles and week to. We're GONNA have to see they go up against the on Fox one PM and You know the Eagles had a real high performance and. If what we saw from the Eagles offensive line. This week is going to end up being truth. Then if I am if I haven't eagles players, that's maybe not Dallas Goddard or something. would be very I wouldn't start eagles wide receiver and I see. Of course running back by the name of. Mile Sanders, we don't see him I probably won't put him in the lineup either so. Because Aaron Donald is the man and that defense definitely got after it and honestly I just feel like them being able to hold dowse seventeen points is more about them than it is about Dallas. So I would be very concerned if I was eagles fan on to back to back weeks where it looks like pass rush is going to be a big problem for them heading into new slew of games but the rams had the eagles in the bills and the giant. So I think that Bills Games going to be a big time game in the next two weeks for them, and we're going to see what what is capable of but. It's going to be a going to be a fun ride four L. A. and seeing if they could the big turnaround that people want them to be able to do out there in their new stadium. As the La Rams and To finish out the PODCAST who might as well get into it. Now, the big game of the week on Fox was Tampa Bay versus the saints and okay here we go. So. If you started Mike Evans against the saints. You should have known what you're getting into Mike Evans versus Marshon Lattimore since twenty thousand eighteen, he has not recorded one catch. That touchdown was not on marshawn and even then that was his only catch of the game and that was it. I don't know what what goes on between them to where Marshon lattimore locks them up this bad or gets in his head but this is just You know as tax deaf taxes in Marshon lattimore locking up Mike Evans. In Chris Guy who didn't get freaky out there either for the most part Chris Godwin he did get sick for seven for seventy nine but there's a lot of garbage time going on like he didn't get that many receptions until the back end and then Mr Miller. Miller it was actually the Guy Majority of the game who was getting a lot of looks. OJ Howard. Ended up picking up some touchdown and he got some some more catches in the back into the game where things look kind of bleak but Mike Evans the catch for two yards touchdown. So if you did start them I guess that that helps you out in the long term I guess the more interesting thing coming from the Tampa side was the fact that Ronald Jones junior ended up getting seventeen carries for sixty six yards average four yards carry. All in all. I think that was. Probably, we might see a little bit more Ronald Jones. In the next few weeks will don't be surprised when it for net starts to really dig in and take the reins away as the starting running back because in my opinion I think Leonard Fournette give makes them look like a different team out there and not say Rummell Jones played bad. Also think that the saints run defense which has. been severely underrated. If you look at it from national media standpoint, a lot of people don't talk about it because a lot of people have this pre pre notion that the saints defense is still wishy washy gives up too many big plays which in general they have in the past and it's been a telling issue before. But honestly, if you look at how Tampa Bay played right Tampa Bay had. A total of if we look at their team totals offensively. They had three hundred, ten yards offensively total right and the saints had to seventy one. The saints did not play a great game by any means any stretch of the means offensively they didn't play a great game, but the thing about it is the saints went into went into eat Clark mode probably around the third quarter and Tampa, Bay If you look at the penalty yards that were given up. The if we debited up now Tampa, they had a lot of bad penalties. They had nine to New Orleans six but New Orleans had two to three pass interference calls that gave them really really Pique field position to go score the ball. and. If they didn't have those Tampa Bay did not have a great game moving the football on saints. Shout out to Thomas Morstead he had a belief five points. Yesterday are six where he did not have them. Outside of the twenty yard line. So. The them within their own twenty, six times he had a killer You know kick on the kickoff that was able to be recovered that gave the saints a little bit more cushioned on the lead. Thomas Morstead had x one day putting the football special teams was huge yesterday as You know for the saints at least if you look at what the special teams able to do. deontay Harris looked really good for a special teams player. He was able to do some things then picked up yards base. We are well on special teams. He made a lot of guys miss I thought he was going to break one at some point but he look good. With Davies Mary he was fed the ball a lot fifteen yard or fifteen carries for forty eight and the average three point two yards a carry I think honestly he might be the unsung hero today because he had a lot of tough runs yesterday against a really good front seven. Of, physical, front seven of Tampa Bay and since he's a physical runner, you know he's very big. He's a big. Guy. Six, three to thirty. It's hard to take him down and it shows it shows that size does matter against their teams Alvin Kamara he got twelve for sixteen yards rushing not great but he also had to touch down in the game and he had five or seven for fifty one yards and one touchdown reception. So. But keep in mind he had a thirty eight yard that he ran almost the house basically, and that was kind of what it was. All in all Jerry. Cook had a really good game five receptions. He looked to be about this good as you wanted to be Michael Thomas had three receptions for seventeen yards. It was not the Best Mikel Thomas Game. He also did have a bit of a bang-up injury. You tell end all in all you know we didn't talk about Michael Tom. Tom, Brady's two interceptions our you know what? The deal with that people saying polyurethane Jamie's. Apparently, the play, the second session that was the pick six has been a play in Tampa. Bay's playbook since Bruce Arians has been around there and it has not been great for a while like that's been a bad play for a minute James threw the ball through interceptions I think twice on that play and Tom Brady threw interception on that play which ended up being a pick six. So do that as you well. The saints if this is the worst that we're GONNA see the saints offense then going to be pretty good I think that Tampa Bay will be better as the season goes along and we'll have to see what the second the second meeting of this big juggernaut match one being. But so far the saints have that advantage but that's GMC see fantasy football podcast for this week I WanNa take your thank you all for listening and don't forget to rate review and subscribe to the podcast if you ever. So please don't forget falls on social media GMC fantasy football on facebook and twitter. This is Ethan you'll see me Friday right here GSM see see you all next week. 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ESPN's Matthew Berry talks Jonathan Taylor vs Marlon Mack + Miles Sanders RBBC + Avengers End Game

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ESPN's Matthew Berry talks Jonathan Taylor vs Marlon Mack + Miles Sanders RBBC + Avengers End Game

"What up clock. Dodgers's Neil malig. No you're tuned into the clock dodgers. Podcast I can't appreciate you enough new to the podcast. For whatever reason more likely the fact that you see Matthew Berry is on the podcast. We appreciate you stopping by. We hope that you continue to listen after this because we have tons of amazing guests who come on this podcast just like Matthew. Berry they bring tons of value. We ask amazing questions we entertain you. We give advice. It's everything it's not. Boring is not like robots. It's not just a bunch of numbers we do a bunch of crazy fun stuff here and at the same time we help you win fancy football so it's a beautiful beautiful thing so I'd hate for you to miss out on that after justice episode. So if you can if you enjoy this episode. I won't even ask you to now. I'll let you go to the episode and enjoy it but if you can at the back end of it just hit that subscribed one if you enjoy what you would you listen to. All I ask hit the subscribe button. Maybe leave a five star review appreciate that greatly as well. We're actually GONNA be starting some contests for some giveaways for reviews So keep your ears and eyes open more than likely so if you want to get a head start more than likely. I'M GONNA ask you guys to drop in the review a five star review and you can say whatever you want in the review whatever kind of Love You. WanNa give it support as cool and we appreciate it but also somewhere in there. I just want you to put your favorite rookie. This season. favorite offensive rookie. Who you think's going to produce the best fantasy because I have some rookie Football cards to give away and so I want to Pick some people out of the out of the reviews who leave a new review five star review. You can leave. You know whatever feedback you have for the show and also make sure your rookies in there so that I can No that is for the contest so any the offensive rookies. That were drafted this season. This season brand new rookies Other than that guys let me go ahead and let you get to this to this episode. Super Big thanks to math you again for coming on the show. I can't thank him enough for taking time out of his day on to make this possible even more just as importantly is Damian over at ESPN. I WanNa thank him for sending us all up So big shout to him because a lot of times guys like Matthew get a Lotta love which they deserve but then Gaza Damian go unappreciated. And I'm big on appreciate and you guys know that as far as I appreciate the content creators the people behind the content creators. Everyone deserves love. Everybody so I'm big on this or shots Damien for help and set all this up Shots Matthew for of course agreeing to it all and coming on Let let me let me go ahead and let you get to the show. I'll talk down the back end after the interview. I'll talk about some other stuff But let's go ahead and into the episode again Matthew Berry from ESPN. We talked fantasy. We talked real life we laughed. We joked and we gave you some serious fancy football vice. Love you guys. Let's go ahead and get against the episode right now. You are. How locked to the clock. Dodgers pockets podcast. I'm your host Neal Malig no. Today's episode has been in the works for some time. Now we've waited for the stars to align on the night of a full moon. Mercury was at a retrograde and it's happened is taken four years in hundreds and hundreds of episodes in between but the opportunity is officially arrived where I get the chance to say this our guest on the clock dodgers podcast the man who brings you the best love hate articles. He's written a book created APPs websites. I've seen him instead of football cards. Actually I mean he's a face a fantasy football. Espn and more importantly one of the most positive influences in a fancy sports community. Welcome to the clock address. Podcast Matthew Berry. How're you doing today? I'm well Neil. Thanks for having me of course. Of course now I'm super appreciative. Obviously that you're able to do this today. I know listeners are excited when they're gonNA see your name there as a guest and you know we're in the midst of this crazy. President Times with cove in nineteen and life. Is You know sports and light. Everything's a halt right. Everything's a little different than we're used to You know we've continued to produce content here. I've seen you've been pushing content also just like just like normal which is beautiful because I know people need distractions and all this good stuff. I was randomly thinking today and I of wanted to ask you though I was thinking. What am I going to walk away from this whole experience with you know like what I did? I did it change me in any way am I did I did. I learn something new and I kind of felt like the only thing that I really take away that we need each other more than we kind thought. We did. As far as like for things to run smoothly and more successful like it helps if we're all involved Is there is there anything that you come with this for? Matthew the whole cove in nineteen thing and all this kind of stuff just like it has I I would. I would say sort of the same thing just on a different coins. There's been you know. The negatives far far far outweigh the positives. But to the extent there are some positives. I mean it's been nice like this give very small example but You know obviously I've gotten to spend a lot more time with my wife my kids which that's been nice But I'll give you one small example so I used to live in L. A. and I had a group of guys that I went to college with so people that I've been best friends with you know twenty some odd years. We used to have a weekly poker game. I'm not a particularly good poker player. None of them are but we mow you know we got together every week and we just laughed and hung out and visited especially as. We've all got married kids and careers and so when I moved away from L. A. To come to Connecticut in two thousand seven when I got the job of ESPN right. I wasn't able to go to that game anymore so I would go. You know once or twice a year to go back to L. A. And visit my brother who lives there and I'd see them but you know Gob as they couldn't be there but what has happened that since since Cova nineteen. Everyone stuck at home in what we've done. Is We all get together on a video conferencing call and we have online poker site and we all play Poker Online? And so that's actually been great. Actually see them a lot more and more regular contact with them now than I ever was because we we resumed our weekly poker game right because since it's now remote I can actually join end so And it's been really nice and I you know you sort of forget. I don't say that I forgot how much I missed him. But I It's it's been really nice to sort of reconnect with them on a weekly basis. Which you know. I hadn't done it in quite some time since I've moved away from. La It's awesome. It's actually brought you closer through this weird thing. It's school All cool so. Let's talk I I do WanNa talk about you really quick. And then we'll hop into the fancy advice Know we have guests with your experience. Level in the PODCAST. I feel like there's just more value to also get some of that out of you as well so I do start the bottom. I guess too tough moments. Some of US are in them. Now rate you call it the struggle if you will What what do you think separates you from those who feel like they haven't really had that breakthrough yet That's an interesting question. How do I answer that What do I what I think separates you mean in terms of like a? I mean like the ones who are still grinding right like they haven't reached that level of success that they you know they they see guys. You don't WanNa be that one day. But what do you think is just time and then a couple of banks so. I I certainly think it's time I also think you know. Let's be honest I worked for. Espn I worked for the largest sports media company in the universe and that that just gives me an unfair advantage that you know people that work for other companies. Just don't have right. Espn is the number. Has the number one fantasy APP? It has the number one fantasy football game the number one website the number one mobile APP just overall yet book. The number one happen sports is ESPN number two APP sports. Espn fantasy sports. So it's just you know that's just that's just a that's just an advantage that anyone in my position would have now having said that just because you're exposed to a lot of people doesn't necessarily mean that they'll like you they'll follow you. Continue to write. Do I think I think so. Certainly you know And by the way what got me to the point of Polish and popularity that. Espn was like okay. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA take a chance on you. We're going to hire you. We're GONNA put you in this role in this position and I would. I would say that I think what differentiates me from Somebody that perhaps is not At a level where they wanna be is two things number one is I think. A wide variety and skill set Which is like. I think I'm a really writer you know. I think I'm a really good writer and I think I'm I think I'm very good writer. Just in general And I think I'm a really good writer when you compare me to the rest of the people in the fantasy industry right. I feel very strongly about that. And I don't think that's bragging And I mean you know I. I wrote a book that had not one piece of fantasy advice in it and it was a New York Times bestseller and spent many months on the list so So there is some justification there for for that claim So I think I'm very good writer but also I think just by the way. I'm reasonably competent at all. Facets of the job now I'm better at some than others but one of the things that I think. Espn values about me. In one of the things that I think makes me different than maybe some of the people that haven't gotten to level they want to yet is that I can write a five thousand word column. I can do an hour long podcast. I can do a three hour. Tv show. I can do a forty five second hit on Sportscenter. I can do a three minute segment on. Nfl Live. And I can do a half hour TV show for ESPN plus so those are all the things that I do. In addition also being semi interesting in two hundred eighty characters on twitter or an instagram post. Right again I'm better at some of those than I am that others but I'm competent all right so generally tilleke that versatility in that ability to not only you know good fantasy insights be built. Communicate them effectively in entertainingly Is I think one of the things that separates me and then you know I think also just my sort of my personality in openness about my life you know when fans come up to me You know there's a few things that sort of come up but the two the two things that I get the most are. I love your column and I love your podcast. And when they mentioned the column it's always about my opening story they never say thank you for. Kareem Hunt is working at your. Thank you for Darren Waller last year. Right you know or you know or for you know telling me that you need to believe and Delvin cooker. Whatever any of the number of calls that got another people got those calls right to. I'm not saying I'm the only one that had those whatever but my point is it's never about you know a good call that I made. It's always I love the story about meeting your wife or buying your house or your bullying Tom or when your daughter broke her arms or your heart attack. Or you know your father-in-law or you know it's always a story right And that that connection and me being willing to be open about my life and the same thing on the podcasts as they enjoy the enjoy humor they enjoy the relationship. I have with sealed Stefan and Daniel top and they You know and and you know sort of my openness there and So I think it's I think it's all those things because ultimately listen. I think I've pretty good advice. I think I've pretty good analysis but a lot of people are pretty good advice and a lot of people up pretty good analysis so I I think my personality and the way I present my information are the things that differentiate. Yeah and you speaking of that. Let me let me bring up this fantasy football. You know it's a. It's a space filled smart people right analytics data people grind film all this great stuff One part that I feel is the most under appreciated and I feel like something you excel at is the entertainment aspect. So many are so fixated on the goal of helping people with this player that player but they don't focus enough on like the attention of making it fun and top notch production and all this kind of stuff. I feel like you that at a high level and I feel like it's important to you but why. Why is it so important to you that you do that in a separate from everybody in my opinion well it's two reasons number one? Is it's fun right. I mean this is fantasy overall is if a game we played a fake game. We play like let's have some fun for the love of God. I mean people are like you know you gotTa crush I'm GonNa hope dominate them like listen. It's more fun when you win again. It you know what I mean like. I wanted to win but at the end of the day this is about hanging out with your family or your buddies from college or your co workers or you know. You're you're lifelong friends like it's it's fun man like this is it's a hobby like in so. I always try to infuse my content in my you know just like hey. This is fun so I. I try to emphasize that above all else for sure and positively in and the you know and I'm a big believer in the healing powers of of fantasy football in that. It's you know it's a larger game at just a game and then the other reason is you know. Kenley Neil. It's like I'm a big believer in. Stay in your lane and do what you do best like. I'm pretty good with stats. But I'm not Mike Clay. I'm not nate. Silver are people that are better at stats than I am. And I'm pretty good at breaking down film. But like I'm not mad Boeing. You know I'm not tedy Bruschi. I'm not like you know some of the NFL players that we have already ESPN. Like I'm not one of those is like You know so it's like I have legit inside sources in the NFL coaches and players but I- text with regularly. So I have some pretty good sources but I'm not Adam Schefter. You know what I mean like so you know so I know what I do well in in what I think I do. Well is I think I take? I take my sources to take my film study. I take my stats. You know I combined that all it it you know and I take like a fairly dry subject which can be it. Stats heavy and try to make it. You Know Entertain -able enjoyable bite-size condense -able accessible in. I don't know if that. How many buzzwords got there but You know at least six or seven. But that's what I try to do right. And that's where I think I'm best at I think I am. That's the thing that I think I do. Best so as opposed to trying to out stat might clay or outsource Adam Schefter or out breakdown film Matt Bowen etc etc. Like just sorta do what I you know. The the thing I do best is being Matthew Berry and so I just sort of tried to lean into into that and bing bing myself and you know being true to what I I'm good at and not doing things that I'm Adam letting other people do thing you know and and not putting myself in that position and You know just because the people that dig me will continue to big me like I. This is Charles Barkley quote in it stuck with me for a long time which is like people. Ask going to try to `checked like you know maybe us better English or you know or not be as candidate. Barkley was like no because if a change. He's the people that hate me. You're still going to hate me and the people that love me. Well love me anymore. Screw it and he's right like there are people that are not fans of mine doesn't matter what I do. Made up their mind on me and they're they are not going to be a fan. They're not gonNA listen to the to read the Com whatever it is but the people that do and there's a lot of them If I try to be something that I'm not I think I would lose them right. I mean I think that's one of the things that people enjoy about me are like about the. I'm I'm really honest and open about myself when I screw up a call I make you know I own it right and I admit to the fact that like you know there is people that are that do things better than I do. And I don't know like I just sort of this is who I am. You know for better for worse now. One hundred percent Brian 'cause I his you know. Definitely one of your best assets Let me let me give you two situations and you tell me which one of the twelve year old version of. You wouldn't believe more. If you went back and talk to him number one that he would become the most recognized voice and face fancy football or two that he'd be enacting role in one of the greatest superhero movies ever. It's the second one the idea that I would ever be a you know twelve years old. I probably would have said what's fantasy football but the but the idea of at twelve years old living in college station Texas Having no connections to show business You know never having been on. Tv You know anything like that radio. Nothing dorky twelve year old kid Lebanon in the middle of Texas. I would have said no way. Would I ever be In a superhero movies. Let alone let alone. Neil the highest grossing movie of all time worldwide. I mean I just want to put that out to your listeners. More than anything else We'll see football blah blah blah blah. Listen at eight bracket if it's not true and I'm just saying Neil I just WANNA say here. I've done one film. That film happens to be the highest grossing movie of all time so literally status stats on a per movie basis. I am the highest grossing actor of all time quite impressive on a permanent basis. And you know what it is what it is. Listen Robert Downey. Junior has a very high Basis Soda Sam Jackson. Chris Pratt Tom Cruise. They're all you know lots of George. They have very high numbers but none of them have a higher per movie average than I do. Because I'm I'm one for one. Fantasy analysts are shooting for the Ron. Goldman should be. That's the restaurant saying it ain't bragging if it's true specs all right. Let's move on fantasy football stuff So it's always important when we're giving fancy advice that you know people know our trust level players and situations so each episode. We do try to ease the anxiety and provide some clarity. Maybe how we feel about this stuff. I'm going GonNa hit you in a few situations here. Matthew let me know whether you trust it or you have trust issues. I won rookie running backs. Jonathan Taylor and Clyde Hilar- will receive over fifty percents NAP shares for their teams in your one trust or rushes trust. I trust I trust both things. There's a reason both guys were drafted and drafted I Marlon MAC is a free agent. Season Damien. Williams had trouble staying healthy. Andy Reid if you look at his history never drafts a running back this early. So the fact that he used a first round pick on a guy on a guy like Clyde Edward. Solaire tells you something. The first SEC player in history with one thousand rushing yards at fifty receptions in a single season is a perfect fit for that offense. I BELIEVE HE GETS OVER. Fifty percent Share and Marlin Mac. If you look at the numbers wasn't particularly You know efficient last year right. He just he he he really was. I mean you know he just. He needed a lot of volume. And so I mean. I think Jonathan A lot of people had Jonathan. Taylor is the number one running back coming out last year and so I don't know in week one. They over fifty percent share. But if we look back assuming no injuries and we look backward. I have this podcast a year from now. We look at the overall season. Yes absolutely trust hundred percent. Both guys have over fifty percent Snap share the running back position for their teams. I will go on record and say just for transparency that I did stand for Mac on twitter the other day and got absolutely drilled about it but I just think he's not dead this year. I just don't think he is but we'll see we'll see I hear your own. Why why do you think he's not dead this? I just feel like the coach is not going to. He's running back by committee his whole life. Right Downton Taylor is supposed to be amazing. He's never had a back like him. But I just feel like they like Mac. If we're to believe coach speak you know And I just don't see why they would do that to Taylor. If they don't have to like why not let him? Why not use him in here with MAC? Who's WHO's not terrible And just kind of like. Why SPLIT IT UP? I don't know who's GonNa get the passing game. If hinds or Mac yes right. So that's that's the key right. So here's the thing. I agree with your premise. On on on two things. I agree with your premise in that running back by committee they still. Marlin MAC listen. They had injuries position last year. They they don't want to you. Know have to draft. You know they don't have to start a guy that was on his couch. A couple of weeks ago elected Jonathan Williams last year at some point right so I agree with all that. And you also have a veteran quarterback in Philip rivers. Who's GonNa want a guy back there? Johnson Taylor is somebody who you know. We know that pass protection is going to be something. He needs to work on in the pros. They didn't really asking to do that. That much of Wisconsin. So I'm with you having said that however let's go with the apprentice so it's a multiple running back by committee. Now he's think about okay. What are their roles? Ripe and so you've got you've got Heinz. Wanted the third down back because he's better at pass growing pass Catcher. They used them. You know even last year when quote unquote MAC was. The guy is still down back. So now you've got between Taylor Knack for the early down role and in terms of fantasy production when you get in close to the goal line who didn't want to give it in. Jonathan Taylor is like you know the shining one of the mean you know. One of the one of the great Touchdown scorers in college football history and so So I guess if that's your argument that you don't see fifty percent snap share because they it's a three headed monster fair is he. I see close but in terms of but I would argue back in terms. Your Marlin Mac is dead is just wears his fantasy value coming from splitting the early down work with Jonathan Taylor. And you by my premise. That Taylor is going to get the rushing touchdowns and hines going to get the receptions out of the backfield in PR format. I just don't know where Max fantasy value comes from because again last year. If you look under the numbers outside of the touchdown he wasn't efficient. All he needed volume for his fantasy production. And I just don't see him getting volume this year. That's fair I understand All right let's move onto the next one then Redskins rookie running back. Antonio Gibson will be flex worthy. Npr by the fancy playoffs. I trust okay. Perf addressed it. Look the thing is is that you know. Look there's a he's a special player right and I get it like you know We really don't have the one season of Memphis but I will tell you that. I know that the REDSKINS staff had him circle that somebody they really wanted. They went out. They got him. You heard Ron Rivera. Talk about the fact. That reminded him of Christian McCaffrey. I'm not saying he's Chris. Mccaffrey from a skill set standpoint on saying he's GonNa get Kinda workloads to Christian. Mccaffrey gets but the redskins offensively our challenge next year. This is coming from a Home Right Ryan. So they've gotTA figure out a way to manufacture points like they can't just like the colts the culture that offensive line and Jonathan Taylor like they can just go out a mall people they can just say like you know we're going to up the Lebanon Lebanon had on a hat hat and we're going to beat you. We think ours is better than your right and let's go right. There are teams like that right. You know that can just do that. and You know saying you know the Vikings in Dalvin Cook Right and so The redskins are not that team. They're not going to be able to go head to head out on a hat and be the team. They're going to have to get creative in. Funky and scheme and get Get Weird a little bit so Antonio Gibson when you think about the weapons the redskins have an offense. It's not a lot after Terry. Maclaurin right. We'll see if Darius guys can stay healthy but like they're gonNA use Gibson is both a running back in his wide receiver. Find Different ways to get the ball in the stands Kinda back the running back version of Deebo Samuel if you will And so I think he just touches the ball ton and Definitely has you know it in an offense by the way is going to have to throw like they're gonNa have to throw the defense is still gonNA struggle. They good defensive line but they're secondary is is still a work in progress and they're going to have to throw up. Yeah I agree with you. I like him. I like Maclaurin even like syms this year so We'll see how it plays out. We will see how it all plays out no question. They don't have a tight end and we'll you know we'll see like attias. Moss makes the team or whatever. But it's hammered Jeremy Sprinkle or whatever you know and and so You know and I think they they got an I mean. I think you'll see Antonio Gandhi Golden Golden Gandhi You know out there as Katie golden right after that I got sorry But anyway like I think he's the number two. I think they prefer Sims as more of a a Jack of all trade kind of do some special teams more of a third wide receiver but It listen I I think you know. Listen I always say the redskins often be slept on and then I was getting comber wind up being right. And whatever happens with the raiders. So are the next two will do trust or trust issues. We want to break down within the next three seasons. Justin Herbert Jordan love and Jacobson. We'll all be starting quarterback in the NFL. Do not trust to not trust. That's a good point. I think there and Tampa Bay Bucks the Patriots version of Rob Gronkowski. Trust or. Don't trust I trust I mean. Here's the thing twenty eighteen the last time we saw Rob Gronkowski scored three touchdowns a career low. You know the numbers were bad across the board. He still was the title fantasy here right. That's the thing is like so if you ask me are we gonNA get peak gronk. Are we going to get number? One Fantasy Gronk. We are not but we're GONNA get a top ten guy. Yeah like do I think he's good as he wasn't twenty eighteen. I do so. I think he's a borderline in one. So it just depends on which you know and I do think there'll be a little bit rejuvenated. I think year off is actually. This helps him all right. We're GONNA do some rankings. Really quick we'll go with. Npr Scorn for. Let's say Redraft Amari Cooper coralline sudden Mike Evans. I rank them. Evans Cooper Sutton Okay how? Npr scoring equitor Kenyan Drake Miles Sanders Equa Drake Sanders in that order. Like with you on that one. I'm listen you just talk about how Frank Right. So He's been a running back for another one. Doug Peterson he always been a running back by committee guy. Everyone's looking at like a monster down the stretch like they had they had they starting wide receiver from the down. The stretch had no Jordan. Howard like you know Zach was in and out of the lineup like they had no one and I'm just telling you ident- the town mile sanders but even then there's still like. Oh Hey Boston Scott. Like you see the news about Carlos high bid whether it's Carlos Hyde or Devante Freeman or one of these free agent running backs there's GonNa be another guy there and it might not be a guy that you want to start fantasy but it's a guy that's GonNa take enough value away from Al Sanders that he's much more rb to high end flex than he is the top twelve guy that I see a lot of people having. Yeah if anything just to protect their investments with these guys you know like yeah you them some help you know so. I I see that point with running back by committee to Are the last one for the rank them in order of who has the best chance to finish in the top. Fifteen at quarterback drew lock. Joe Bureau or garnered shoe was the order. I have them all very very. I have locked over borough over Menchu but I would say that I think that's how I read them ranked but if you're asking me Best chance to finish inside the top. Fifteen maybe borough I've locked at eighteen Berlin nineteen right. Now I'm right next to each other today. Do like Minhsiu too so I mean they're all right there at all. Three guys have shot to quarterback of course as deep. It's a fun group all right so if our no foul. It's actually my favorite part of the show. We have a guest on. I'm going to read to you. Statements their statements. I've found online. Social Media. Websites might just totally made up You'll give me a foul if you disagree with the statement or no foul if you agree with it The first one Dak Prescott will be the qb one and fantasy points. Twenty Twenty Baranov L. I would say foul because I think it's it's going to be mahomes Jackson but I have. I have that Prescott. It's my number three quarterback. I'm very high on that. I put out at three in my initial rank and got so much feedback. Like you're crazy. That's insane and now. I've started to see other fantasy. Analysts come around to back on threes. I'm like that's right. That's right was like what about Russell Wilson? What about the SEAN WATTS? Dak Prescott was the you know. That Prescott was the second best quarterback and fancy last year. Right as people forget that. Be Good Henry Rugs Will Sean Jackson like rookie season. John Jackson Sixty two receptions nine hundred twelve yards two touchdowns fowler no value. Think he could do it. I would say What'S THE ONE. If I agree. No valid value. No foul no foul. All right I like rugs this year. I think he's A. He's one of my favorite playground flyers. And he's the highest rank rookie wide receiver. I have nice. How about this one? The in nineteen situation will impact the current. Nfl season meaning. We should adjust SPY FADING ROOKIES AND PLAYERS. New Teams Fowler. Novell she faded not about others No foul okay Yeah I mean I agree. I think I don't think we need to adjust you know massive amount but it's certainly going to impact all right. Here's to fun. Ones Really. Quite close out Raiders owner mark. Davis is haircut is still worse than former titans presidency. Eeoc underwood's Mustache Fowler NFL worse than I'm using the mustache. He stepped down. Titans President Steve Underwood crazy look ask. I'm going to say foul foul the most source in the last one ironman sacrificing his life to save the world from. Domino's is a bigger sacrifice and Brian Westbrook sacrificing fantasy teams by taking knee touchdown. The fancy playoffs no foul slightly agree. That's a much bigger second. WanNa give it was like all right so I appreciate it matthew. I know you're I guess I know your time thing here. What we'll do is normally. This is where I actually guessed you know. Let listeners know where they could find them and stuff kinda like they don't know where you're at this point it's Kinda like you'd probably dialup internet or something but either way go ahead just kind of plug something if you if you want to plug anything you're telling where to find you upcoming projects anything you want it though in here matthew. Obviously you can listen to finish. Focus podcast the fantasy show on ESPN plus but check out the fantasy life. That one hundred percent free the alerts absolutely crushed. There's a reason we're at five stars on Android four point eight plus on Ios over thousands reviews on each again hundred percent free go to fantasy life. App DOT COM to download it for free or wherever you get your APPS CIGARETTE. App It really is all right. Thank you again. My at the super grateful man again. You know the I really appreciate you coming on. It means a lot and an until next time man appreciate it. We'll take care. Sorry I have to run. That was a fun episode again. Big Shout Matthew Berry. Espn and all the hard work and everything he does over there. We appreciate it for him for coming on Is Important that I get across. We have all kinds of guests on the show. We had them on for different reasons. Sometimes it's just straight up. Fancy talk right destroyed fancy football sometimes. It's not fancy at all on with Matthew. It's a blend of both I obviously wanted to talk fantasy football with him. Even though even though the time was pressed right we didn't have a whole lot of time together. I WanNa make sure we got you fantasy content fancy advice but just as important matthew has so much years of experience in the business and it even if you don't want to write in Fancy Footballer do podcast and Fancy football or things in sports. In general there's so much value that can be applied to every other part of your life whether it's a career your family and whatnot so I felt it was important to dig into that content. I wanted to make sure I didn't miss out on that opportunity so hope you guys found value in that as well So again be shots. Matthew be shot to Damian for help set this up time wise schedule-wise all that good stuff And thank you again to everyone. Who's listening if you're a first time listener you know you've seen the name Matthew Berry. You wanted to hear what was happening with Matthew and wait what's going on. I appreciate you just for the into this one episode. 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Special Episode: Establish The Edge with Silva, Kerrane and Leone

Establish The Run

46:42 min | 1 year ago

Special Episode: Establish The Edge with Silva, Kerrane and Leone

"Guys welcome to the established head podcast I'm your host pack rain with Ms Mico host. Mike Leoni of established the run DOT COM and we have a special guest this week Evan Silva one of the CO founders of established. Iran, what's up guys works out good to be with you guys have been listening to your guys show. Love the tight end stuff that you guys talking about. Deandre Washington just got called up from the chiefs practice squad and everybody listened this. Go pick him up I mean if you're into chasing chiefs backups. Because I. Am Leoni sounds like you're not no I am I was just needling wiggins a little bit I think he's been asking about Darwin Thompson Daryl Williams and who knows what they're gonNA do so I wouldn't waste too many roster spots on both those guys to try and handcuff C., H.. But thank you for the shout on the tight end stuff. No one spends as much time talking about UNHERALDED TIGHT MIA PAT do this podcast. Yeah. It's it's been fun. I'm hoping Logan Thomas can do something because we've talked about. Have a good game. Coming to the rescue man. The this episode is GonNa Be Really Fun we're doing a redraft of the twenty twenty rookie class. So this is a dynasty focus show were drafting this rookies. Four dynasty is you wouldn't in a rookie draft but someone asks this is redrafted dynasty on twitter it's dynasty but or read redraft misclass-. A lot has changed in four weeks. So we thought it'd be fun to revisit. This this really exciting rookie class I mean there's there's like a lot of really interesting players that are starting to emerge so. We're giving Evan. The first pick is a guest here. Mike's going to go second and then I'll go third and we'll just kinda go that way the entire time so. I kind of this thing we dive right into it right Y-yeah. Evan. Kick US off your, you've got the one one well taking Clyde Edward Solaire I think that there is a tear at the top of with two players in I. Think Clyde layer is the better bet clyde Edwards seller I think. Maybe, even argue that he's in a two year unto his own because of his passing game usage because Patrick Mahomes is signed for the next ten years because You Know Edward. Solaire is going to be there for at least four years if not the next five. I think he is. He's broken tackles at an incredible clip only Alvin Cook among future running backs. This season has more broken tackles We saw the cashless opener, but then he's been really good off from receiving standpoint of the past three weeks I. Think he's been pretty much everything we expected. touchdowns haven't been there but not not putting too much of a microscope on. The first four games of a dude's career just trying to trying to zoom out. And realizing what you have in Clyde Edward Solaire, I think that he's a buy low right now in season long if you can find somebody that's maybe a little frustrated and dynasty I think he's the clear one. Yeah Pat and I were talking before the show and it's like you don't WanNa put too much. You're trying to figure out how much weight you should put on the first four weeks with player usage and whatnot because you're thinking about, you know years in advance had dynasty pack the lot and you don't want to think too long term but. You also, you're not gonNA wait for weeks of usage when you're drafting the dynasty and I feel like I've gone back and forth when Marlon Mac I went out I was like, Oh, jd's the one one. Now you know he was athletic freak he was everyone's favorite running back prospect in now he's got no competition and now the last two weeks they've. Sort of been in a committee and it's like should that be affecting me but ultimately I think C. H. is the one a one just because I've been surprised at how quickly they've given him a workhorse type role. I didn't expect that I thought he was the one on one coming into the year expecting a split there. So when you give him the workhorse role. In with jt you see maybe they're not handing that to him if the workloads are the same as you know, give me the back. That's other mahomes and that's really good pass catcher. So I agree with C. H. at the one one, I will take Jonathan Taylor the one. Oh, two though. I think that just rook on C H, I mean he's he said at a high in snap count and snap percentage this past week. So I think he's been kind of more than I expected. At least in terms of quickly establishing himself as a war course. Getting just a huge percentage of the snaps compared to the guys on the he sixty eight percent of snaps. So that's that's really exciting to see and I think. Denial as the tiebreaker in terms of offense against Taylor but he's got the tiebreaker in terms of the snap usage, which is Mike that would be the concern right with Taylor's that he's not really even after Mac went down he's not established himself with the huge snap leader that you know we would have expected I think. But yeah, which is. Really, weird because we to when MAC was out, we didn't see any hinds. We just saw Wilkins garbage time and it looked like they were handing him the role, a huge workload and they've scaled back and I sort of you as JT's edge should be in the workload. So if he's not. Getting that edge in the workload how do you go against the back who catches passes and plays with? Patrick Mahomes and his Evans said with calling him a Bilo in redraft ill touchdowns are coming. He had the one in the opener got stuffed on the goal on a bunch sometimes the touchdowns ebb and flow. In this case, the offense because there's so many guys but everyone's going to get there is by the end of the season we're GonNa have some games for C. H. that. that resemble what we saw Damian Williams in that playoff run when he had huge fantasy games, the whole playoff run because that's exactly the role that they're using C. H. in which is Super full-time roll. Yay. With Taylor you know one of the concerns coming out of Wisconsin was that he was not heavily involved in the passing game his final year. He had I think twenty five catches but he had a bunch of drops bff pointed that out that he had a bunch of drops and it seems to is the that concern seem to ease in week one when he had six for sixty seven in the passing any, but his receiving role has actually diminished each week so far. So that is still a concern for Jonathan. Taylor. Might be a concern. For the rest of the of his career potentially you know. Nick Chubb was Kinda similar in that we knew he was an elite rusher coming out but he didn't catch passes in college and that has followed him into the pros even if we think that the guys are capable. Ver-. So often I think college receiving production for running backs is predictive of what's GonNa Happen to them in the NFL I mean the when the team draft some they don't see that on tape and you know they use guys like nagging am hines and you know Kareem Hunt and even last year Dontrelle Hilliard a little bit and you know they'll they'll. They will use guys in that receiving role and almost use that as a way to give a running back Jonathan Taylor Nick childlike during restroom game. and. That kind of happened to Mac where he was I, think capable receiver but was not used like that at all under the same regime says definitely a little bit of a Red Flag. With the one of three, I'll move over to wide receiver and take CD lamb He was my one of three. Before the season, what we've seen from him is so exciting This offense is just you know putting up huge numbers in the passing game, we want pieces of this receiving game and he gives us the most long-term stable peace like he's he's already a guy that you want to get into your starting lineups in high stakes leagues. He's a really strong play every week he's twenty one years old I. Think you know with the type of season he looks like he's going to have. next year will be probably the same lineup, but he's you know he has the ability to continue to develop without a ton of defensive attention on him. I think he's just going to be very productive and get a guy who's putting up this type of production at twenty, one, twenty two. That's when you start to see guys going at that like one to turn dynasty startups. So I just think he has a lot he he's insulated in terms of trade value. He's going to be someone you're you're excited to start every week I'm really really excited about CD lamp. Yeah. I thought that there was a two man's here to start off with Edward Selena and Taylor, and then I think that there's another to man to your here and they're both receivers. And I'm going to go with Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson in a very short amount of time as almost transformed the vikings offense. He is sixteen catches on the season. He opened the season. You didn't even convincingly beat out all Olabisi. Johnson and that was a little concerning I think. But man the way he is played the past two weeks just added it entirely new dimension to the vikings offense or hundred plus yards and back to back games. He's got sixteen catches on the season eight of gone for twenty plus and ten of gone for seventeen plus he was slot receiver at Lsu and I remember thinking this guy reminds me a lot of Michael Thomas. lsu Maybe Ninety percent version of Michael Thomas. But they have been playing on the outside and he's been winning. He ran sub four five at the combine surprise. A lot of people I think he was four, four three, and now they are using him on the outside and he's flourishing. and. If, we're going to look and so now he's shown that he can dominate at the highest level of college football in the slot, and he is dominated the past few games on the outside and if we're looking forward Adam, field is on the wrong side of thirty. I think that a coaching change is probably imminent in Minnesota. That could be a good thing for Justin Jefferson if they get somebody in there more innovative younger in the coaching staff and I think, Justin Jefferson, I mean I think by by midseason potentially he could overtake Adam feeling as the number one in Minnesota and certainly by twenty twenty one. So far I'm completely in line with your guys. Picks had Jefferson four and Abbas said Yo I'm not someone watches a lot of college football. You know I rely guys like Pat and some of these guys that. Look into the prospects who bit more sorta let me know what's up and sort of the noise around just Jefferson was dizzy can be really safe picked because slot production and Abbott hit the nail on the head. He is dominated on the outside with really big plays thus far. So the combination of we know he has that slot ability with he's got he leads the League in the NFL and eight catches of twenty yards and threw his first four games over the last ten years is the second most receiving yards of any receiver in their first four games. Last ten years second only to stuff on digs ironically. So I love the Jefferson pick at four I struggled there I think Jerry Judy, who I'm going to take at five is. In the tier with Jefferson actually have lamb and his own tier I. Think and then Judy in Jefferson Jerry Judy came into he's got the draft equity. We've seen the route running on display already for Denver I. Know He had a couple of drops but the primetime game out of the gate if she really looked explosive and like he could separate the NFL level and I'm trying not to overthink. A situation where the team is bad. I know they're bad right now the ravaged with injuries I know there's uncertainty qb. But ultimately, I think the talent and the longevity of elite wide receivers in dynasty pushes me to have Jerry Judy over. which I think will probably start getting into the backs now a after these. Three wide receivers go but I'll throw it to pat. We'll see what he thinks about judy and. GonNa, take one of six here. Yet Judy I, think's a really nice pick their I. Love Jefferson pick to Judy's interesting because he's been so banged up. So like when you look at his target share and stuff, it doesn't it doesn't pop as much. As I think it would be if he was able to play full games because again targeted on a really high rate, his routes which I think in that case helps. take away some of the injury noise a little bit So excited about him I'll I will go over to running back. I'll go with the Andrea swift year I was. A little bit concerned about swift's fit with the lions because he was you know this receiving back that we're all very excited about really fits the modern NFL profile that we want. But the lions weren't really thrown in the running backs. Last year, he has a twelve percent target share. He's getting four targets, targets a game I. Really liked that the problem obviously is that Adrian Peterson involved here Adrian Peterson those thirty five years old. He's. He's not going to be there next year, and in some ways, I think what Adrian Peterson has done his actually. Increase the long term value or long term outlook for swift because. He sort of proven that Kerryon Johnson is not necessarily going to be someone who's GonNa. Come in who is signed in two thousand twenty one who's going gonNA. Really. Limit Swiss value. So I think that I'm actually feeling a little bit better about what the twenty twenty one split might be with with a Johnson swift and you also have a situation where you could see a new coaching staff here as well, which I think would really help for swift. So looking at kind of the the pieces that we have here that he's shown us already and then moving ahead a year to what this offense could look like. I'm pretty excited swift Econo- profiles to me like someone in the Aaron Jones Alvin Kamara type of mold. Those guys can be absolutely winners. He's the type of dude I think can easily be a first round type of redraft pick so I'll go ahead and grab him. I like it. I think I could go like one of seven as yes where it gets tough I feel like. but I'M GONNA. Go with a Dobbins. I think he's already shown that he's the best receiving back in Baltimore is getting five touches, a game and been very, very frustrating to own any part of the Ravens backfield so far. But again, this is dynasty and we're not trying to be microscopic about four games here. There's a lot of stability with the Baltimore team. And Lamar Jackson isn't going anywhere. Harbaugh isn't going anywhere Greg Room and his. I don't think he's going anywhere because it doesn't seem like NFL teams view him as a true like head cut like a leader of men type He's kind of like softspoken. He's like kind of like a nerd which, hey, I love that but. You know teams don't see him I. Don't think NFL team. See Him as a head coach head coaching material. And so I I love the stability there marquees brown isn't going anywhere mark. Andrews isn't going anywhere Jiechi Dobbins isn't going anywhere Mike Mark Ingram definitely could be going somewhere and Gus Edwards is still like a a pretty good runner but a replacement level running back in the league So I think that we see J. K. Dobbins blow up maybe later in the season maybe not sell twenty, twenty one. But. That's GONNA be my pick here. It's also interesting when a team an organization. That's pretty. Savvy. In terms of analytics usage, they use a second round pick on a running back which you wouldn't expect from that type of organization. To me that indicates that they really. They do find value in this position in this particular player, which makes me feel good about the long-term roll the player I going back to the swift pick from pat it is a weird thing where. You know someone at a first glance might think that the usage this far has been negative but I agree it's been a positive. He can rack up at twelve percents target share while Adrian Peterson dominates the snaps and they clearly hate Gary on Johnston like it's wheels up when he's gone. So agreed their I did actually have Antonio Gibson one spot higher than Dobbins I'm GonNa take him here I. think he gets tough but. Antonio gives Super Explosive Player in college tons of big plays but. Didn't get a lot of work as a pure rusher and there was some concern and a week one. Some of those concerns seem warranted when they gave the ball of paid and Barbara Everyone thought it was medium. Tonio. Gibson. Show with Darius Geiss being released. But since then they've really shifted, Dantonio gives in given him the goal line role they're increasing his touches. They were finally manufacturing touches for him in the passing game, and again I don't WanNa lean too much on the usage through four games. But for a player like Gibson where we know the athleticism is there the upside is they're saying that usage is really important. It's important to have that tangible usage two point two because the concern there is whether or not a team is going to trust him. To be a traditional running back and it seems like Washington is willing to. Display all the problems that they have offensively a Gibson here. Yeah I had Gibson right behind Dobbins and for me the factors that. Me In favor of Dobbins. was. Number. One the the the organization I believe in organization more. Than Washington and The the draft capital. The Baltimore invested as opposed the draft capital that Washington invested in the Antonio gives them, but it was it was really close and there's a big gap between the receiving projection even in a Lamar Jackson offense. Versus what Antonio Gibson has shown that he can do he had a big target share at. MEMPHIS. When you know even though he was limited in terms of his playing time I think it's thirty three catches at Memphis last year and. Now his receiving production rejection is definitely superior to what Dobbins is even in a great situation. Atkins's so safe I. wonder if I'm over thinking the ceiling through four weeks that like. Are they just always gonNA WANNA use multiple back Salah, I don't know I've just been really surprised that the usage. That might be me overthinking the first four weeks but I had them right here I mean we're we're we're splitting hairs splitting hairs here in terms of the order. So curious to hear pats thoughts on Dobbins in your the long-term ceiling obviously the efficiency potential next Lamar Jackson's through the roof But but do you get the the amount of touches you need and what what should we care about more in dynasty because Dobbins is probably like one of the safest running backs to last. in terms of longevity like three or four years out, you would think. Yeah I would've taken dobbins slightly head to think. Ingram can be cut for five million dollars, savings this season, and so dobbins might like the the amount that he needs to show to the NC. A huge boost value of Ingram's not back you know is like he doesn't need to be a star in year one to profile star heading into next season and I have been a little bit disappointed with how much Gus Edwards has been involved. But the Nice thing is the Dobbins is getting most of the receiving work. That's there. It's Baltimore there's not a ton of receiving to go round, but he is getting the most of it. I. Think that's been a positive sign on Gibson I would say it's kind of interesting where. Like with Dobbins and swift, I'm hoping to see that receiving work with Gibson. He can be the receiver that's he he was a receiver he's a converted receiving. So what I want to see that he's getting like the goal on work like you're talking about and now it's looking like you know as we head into this week. mckissick is going to be stealing a bunch of receiving work from him but mckissick not a long term threat to that. So it's really like he is slowly developing into a potential workforce I. Think it's really exciting. I both guys are really exciting. I will with my pick SA- brand pick I'm going to go with viscous all here. I have not maybe tell me if this was a reach but I think that you know what we're seeing from channel who second round pick big wide receiver versatile skillset. Is. Coming off. An. Awesome, game. where he had an absurd yards, for outrun. At four he's still not running as many routes aside like he's only running around a fifty seven percent drawbacks, but he's getting targeted at on over twenty percent of his routes. He's making plays like you know he just past the eye test more than I think almost anybody but he's a big wide receiver that I think will have pretty good touchdown equity. partly because of size and partly because of the versatility that he brings on the season as one point, nine, five yards per hour on playing really well I would like to see I. think he would probably benefit from a coaching change at least an offense coordinator change because the Jaguars are running. So slow I think that's hurting him but what we've. Seen from him so far is really confirmed a lot of like the the bullish things I was thinking that he could be as a as a wide receiver. He really looks like he's kind of fulfilling the hopes that I have for in terms of the type of player I wanted to ask you about that because she was the exact player I was thinking of. Where when we in our minds sort of envision how something might turn out and then it happens exactly that way it just gives us miss sometimes maybe even too much confidence that were right when maybe sometimes it could be a little bit lucky. About Josh Allen to this season redraft you know what's happening is almost exactly what laid out in the off season and it makes you think I. Okay. This is really happening. It's because because it's happening in such a specific way that was laid out and that's what we're seeing was should all with him being used in the run game and you mentioned that he's big I mean I've been surprised. I'm not team watch the tape guy but he's at at least three or four plays where you've seen him you know take hit and just bounce off a guy keep going. It's really really been impressive. Yet pad mentioned the I tests for liver cushion all. I mean this dude is he's a fricken freak men even absolute freak. He's like so twitchy like an powerful and you mentioned the yards for Outrun to I've looked at that for rookie receivers over the past five six years and it's so predictive for like stars in the NFL. If you get up in that range right around two yards for route run as a rookie receiver like. Forget about it like you're going to be an absolute stud and you mentioned that Lewis Casinos right at one point nine, five hopefully can get You can maintain that even get above to I. Think it's an aggressive pick but I think that there is a massive tear here where you could have gone any which way I guess I'm up next right I. Agree I, think this tear. We kind of got into this tier rate. I started the tier. I think we're just there's like seven guys you. Had Chenault Eleven. But you say you're crazy reach but I I figured you for brand purposes would be the first to get. Yeah. I'M GONNA go with Jalen Rigor. Is. Yeah and I, you know I production does matter a lot in dynasty and we were not expecting him back until mid mid season. But I think these injuries are not things that he can't overcome a thumb injury. The shoulder was a little worrisome but he came back and played and made a big play coming back from that to Sean Jackson's thirty three Zach. Ertz looks like he's all at a gas. I'm a little optimistic on Akers, but he could also be for the rest the season just from his target projection results definitely a guy that could be gone after this year. Alshon Jeffery I think definitely gone after this year. So the pathway for Jalen Rigor. Is. I think very, very clear I'm he also is a guy that I think could give us some spikes in the second half of the year when it comes back healthy. I liked that pick I had a so far. We're going in the opposite order by had the next three. I had chenault eleven. I had a regular tans I get the guy had nine, which is cam acres. I know it's been a disappointing start to the year with the injury had the RIB injury. He sounds like he's going to return this week and. you know there's some concerns when you start off your career with some health issues and we also saw what's happened to draw Henderson last year where you know he very quickly fell behind and even this year you know had a great game and then we seem splintering Malcolm Brown the next game and it's been frustrating became acres. He had an eighty nine, th percentile college dominator rating according to play profiler dot com eighty, nine, th percentile speed score he he's got the body size. He had pretty good target share in college. So he took a lot of boxes and if Sean mcvay who Adam Levitin likes to refer to his fate sharp Sean McVeigh Get at times but he he can scheme an offense I mean, we're seeing what Jared Goff is doing in this offense this year they've been a better overall team than expected and I think it's a team that's going to provide a lot of opportunities for fantasy points for the running backs. You just have to hope that the acres can emerge out of the bunch and I think long term he is definitely the best bet to do that here. Man There's so many guys that I could pick here But I'M GONNA go with a guy that I really liked in this range before the season and is coming back and looking awesome in short amount of time that we've been able to see him on the field in Brandon. Euch. Brennan UK is. Just an incredible playmaker after the catch, he is a four year college player, which is typically a little bit of a red flag actually sometimes more than a little bit of a Red Flag. If we're taking these for your college players though one to be highly productive I was highly productive and he's in the mold of guys who have been NFL stars as for your college players like the Mary Thomas in that that type of profile big bodied great after the catch type of wide receiver in our seeing him being used in really creative ways. In the San Francisco offense, which is part of the reason that I liked this fit they traded up for him. He's a first round wide receiver I think that he is a pretty safe pick. I. Also think that there's some upside here if he and Deebo Samuel and kittle once they all get healthy can take this offense to levels that hasn't seen previously. So I, you is a guy that I think we haven't seen as much as we have wanted to so far because he he's been struggling with injury, but I mean what we've seen. When he's been on the field has been just magical at times. And he was another guy that enrolled of is pointed this out like five six years ago receivers with were. Excellent Return Production College that is like a really good indicator of future success I mean. So many receivers that are studying the NFL were awesome return men in college and bring an. Was An awesome return man that just translate I. Mean it's just an indication that he's so good with the ball in his hands and that's why you're seeing the rushing attempts. That's why you're seeing that thirty eight yard rushing touchdown last week cash-in-hand isn't going anywhere. We'll see about Garoppolo cousins probably going to be the forty niners starting quarterback by twenty, twenty two. Absolutely love I you so are we done like is that a? Five or six more. On, we gotta go to fifteen at least. Yeah. That there's. All right. Man There are some good ones here. I'm GONNA go with. Higgins. Who I think has been the guy that has risen for me the most maybe it's like a mid to back end second round dynasty rookie pick to a guy I think very had such as such a good case to be a first rounder. At this point, we're seeing a J. Green fall off the cliff and we're seeing the future of the bengals three receivers set which borough who has looked excellent I. think it's better every game he snow for three hundred plus yards in three straight now and T, HIGGINS IS GONNA be the long-term outside perimeter receiver Tyler in the slot other board is locked up long-term of than she higgins is going to be the playmaker on the outside He was not a guy that I loved coming out of College I. You know he was it a deep threat at Clemson who ran like mid four fives. Like that going to translate is that you know that that winning trait that that vertical ability that downfield ability going to to translate with that speed that mediocre speed but I I think that he's you know answered those questions to some extent borough is not gotten into his groove as downfield thrower so far but she higgins is earning more and more each week and I think that his upward trajectory By the end of the season, he might be in every week wide receiver to already. We seen. Week. One John Ross plays a bunch plays a little bit weak to now new. Now he's not even active healthy scratches t higgins sunshine up chart has been. Very quick and immediate there. And then with the pick I I did have him twelve thrown out my first round I almost view stupid comparison by You San Francisco Receivers Kinda like Baltimore running backs in terms of safety where I trust Shanahan so much to get these guys the ball in space you know they do some really I mean depot had like legit fantasy value from rushing screen passes to these guys that. The it's hard for me to see them going really badly In that situation San Francisco. So I like that I will go man I love the way Chase Klay Pool has emerged so far but I gotta go James Robinson here. Finally going to pull the James Robinson trigger. I've been surprised at how much of a workload they'd given him out of the gate I. Know There hasn't been much competition with a Z. Bo having injury issues armstead on the covert list, but he is currently James Robinson is six in the NFL in Kerry share seen sixty nine percent of his team's carries a were also seen ten percent of the teams targets, which is really good for running back and he's been productive and y'all at the running back position where you'll the shelf life's not necessarily super long. I'll take a chance that he's able to solidify this rb one role, for Jacksonville, for a couple of years. So. So give me James Robinson at the two, zero, two, I guess, and that's the two or three pat. Yeah. That's that's I was hoping Robinson fall made with the the fifteenth. That's that's a nice. He's Dubai by starting to talk about play pool on. Yeah? I think I'll just take the falling value here. Not Not like A guy was popular in some of the rookie drafts that I was in among like analysts and stuff, but was the first wide receiver drafted. So I'll go ahead and take henry rugs. Rugs was like pretty clearly before he's been really banged up so far but they want him to be their number one guy like he's not going to be some just pure deep threat or they're they're trying to make this guy like an Alpha wide receiver. He was. You know it's Alabama. It's really hard to figure out like how much of his lack of production was due to the guys who's playing with Jerry Judy a number of other first round level wide receivers and how much is actually like a legitimate red flag but. He's a very high first round pick and he's got incredible speed and he's GonNa get a ton of opportunity to close out season here. So kind of just feel it can't pass up the value. I'll take him rugs. I. Like it. He's definitely value pick I. think after week one, he was like top five in the NFL ear yard share. In that I I'm with you that I think they're going to try to get him the ball in the short passing game and throw him deep stuff Brian Edwards hasn't really shown us very much and these injuries the hampering the short term stuff that really shouldn't bother us too much. Just mentioned just going to mention three more guys before we get into quarterbacks a little bit and that's Klay Pool. Josh Kelly and Michael. Pittman. Michael Pittman this another situation like Jalen Rieger where everything I think is going to clear out real soon I think the Jack Doyle is on his last legs. I. Think The T. Y. Hilton looks like he's on his last legs Zach Pascal is you know replacement level player? And so I, think that Michael Pittman could make a really quick ascension maybe in the back half of this year but likelier in twenty twenty one and then Chase Klay Pool like where are these people that were saying that he should convert to tight end coming? In your fucking draft twitter card. You're saying that Vincent that Vincent Jackson should play tight end in the NFL because that's what Chase Klay Pool is what an incredible talent wins on the outside. You know, Ben, his look good. Maybe ben has a couple more years left in him that could be good news the the beat writers in Pittsburgh are convinced that Juju is gone after this year And you know. So that could open up a lot of targets for chase clay. I'm really excited about his future. where. Are you guys on Josh Kelley though. I like Kelly a lot I think it's been really exciting that he's gotten the goal line work. Or mostly were competit- ahead of Boeckler. Because was used to bid on the goal line in those games last year when Gordon was out So it's not like He. was just definitely GonNa get past there and then he's been uses a receiver in a way that I wasn't sure what to make of him as a you know a guy if he was going to get any receiving work at all we'll see here with with how the split goes down with. Jackson. But I'm definitely kind of on the Kelly side going forward and I. I think he's surpassed my expectations pretty substantially as a prospect. I'm excited about him. Yeah. Where would you have a Kelly keyshawn? Zach Moss Kate. Moss was in the role that we expected and hope for right he catching a few passes in dominating the goal-line touches for Buffalo before he missed the last two weeks with a toe injury and I, expect you'll be thrust right back into that role as soon as he's active. If Zach Moss had been healthy and Devon single terry a issue for the last two weeks I think that we could have. Zach Moss. Eight or nine you know the value in this backfield is pretty massive and so I think he just a little bit of bad luck for him that you know it it does show the Devon single terry very capable running back has a lot of value on Moss's and around but I think the same would be true of Moss if had this backfield to himself for a couple of weeks, we'd be way more excited about him. He definitely would have been the top fifteen so. I think been he would've been a great pick to. My Concern With Moss is that Devon Single Terry? I think is pretty good. And then Josh Allen Vultures goal-line touchdowns. But I do like Zach Moss. I'm surprised that Korean didn't use the keyshawn Vaughan mentioned as a jump off point to. A little bit here on Roggio Roggio night. who had a really nice week, last week and? Still, dropping passes but did have really. Speaking I mean Leonard. Fournette is you know he's year year wishaw McCoy's probably done. And then keep but keyshawn Vonda I think is an interesting spot. and. He's got. He's got an opportunity now to show the coaching staff to show. Tom Brady that you know that he deserves a role in this backfield at he made a nice play on that receiving score last week. Gave them some punch in the passing game So yeah, you guys want to jump into quarterbacks. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I do WANNA say on on von Roka I've been because you know how much I'm watching I'm watching every frigging snape this team and I just can someone get rid of the Shawn McCoy please I. don't care who would it be? Lanny, keyshawn. So I'm just I'm happy that Keyshawn Vaughn is getting his chance because it means McCoy's not around I don't think McCoy will be coming back. He led up I think he's the only running back up a sack so far he's dropped touchdown realize no business being out there. So I'm excited about Keyshawn Vaughn. We overs at in our high stakes team just spent like over two hundred bucks of our Fab in one of our main events to get him we're GONNA end up starting tonight. So my Roggio love can't blind me to the exciting prospect that keyshawn bonus. Just for clarity were recording this before the Thursday night game. Bears. Something crazy happens we saw idiots. That's what as far as quarterbacks go a PF had a tweet by Joe Borough and just how well he's great out for them despite being basically under siege whole bunch and having to pass a whole bunch. So it's been impressive he's been able to hold his own despite being pressured a time despite playing and a Lotta negative game scripts. So I think in a soup reflects startup I would have him Had it's still hard for me to maybe right after swift. Maybe that's too. I don't know maybe it should be earlier. What do you guys think? I think he goes above swift after Lehman Jefferson I think he's number five. Yeah. In what about Herbert I mean? First of all I think there might be a case to be made that herber is. Above borough I still go with Barrow but I think that there is a case to be made for Herbert Herbert's really athletic. he's had three If I thought he was really good in his first start took a little setback in a second start was awesome. In his third start in man he looks like he he looks like he could be an absolute stud. He does I mean he was awesome in against a really tough defense here. Will. Is Awesome. During the fancy playoffs and it's awesome here kind of in the mid part of season. So you kind of two stretches with Herbert where you're GONNA WANNA, start him. He's a guy that we have a couple high stakes teams, Mike Make Fun of me because we did this fence football world series draft last night, and we took him over Shawn Watson in that. Where you're just it's just a four way stretch watson as a by so maybe a little bit exuberant on herber. But yeah, Herbert, he's got a little bit of rushing equity He is just absolutely bringing pumping new life into Keenan Allen Hunter. Henry. Before when down he was benefiting a lot I think he's adding a lot of value to the backfield. Running backs, getting more receptions than they would have with. Taylor. So I'm loving what I'm seeing out of Herbert he was just kind of weirdly discounted to me in in the super flex drafts. You know he was going usually in the eight nine range and I just think like. My thing with these super flex quarterbacks if they get drafted highly and they have rushing equity, we should. We should just. Not over think it basically I think we sometimes you know Daniel Jones this happened with Herbert I. Think it happened a bit with Josh Allen where you get I. Think we got a little bit too into our own opinions of these guys because the truth is they don't need to show that much before you can flip them for a profit. Now you can flip you can flip over for a prophet right now he's only played like three good Games Daniel Jones, you could do the same. So I think it's one of the inefficiencies and suplexes that these rookie quarterback's that they flash right away and you WANNA, flip them. It's pretty easy to do. So if you take the guy who gets discounted due to kind of consensus idea of where he's value. The search classes. So exciting because you're know Herbert's ascending but to in Jalen hurts to me are almost buys right now where you'll carson Wentz look brutal and if you want by Jalen hurts you better do it before they make a switch there and then to a of just because you haven't heard anything but literally ended nothing's changed for to same spot. So just because things have been quiet around those to your, there buys Jordan love probably takes a it with an rushers playing out of his mind again and it hurts your. Leaders training camp videos of Jordan, love throwing the football. Yeah hurts was going just behind Jordan. Lavin look at the Dynasty League football, Rookie Adt, and I think like very clearly, it would be taking hurts ahead of Gordon love now here's a theory is our buys I don't know where had slaughter in, but they seem like their prices are deflated right now. I agree. Do you think that the the Green Bay GM coach just kinda new Rogers while enough to say. We can help him more by drafting a quarterback that will just get it his head. It'll just go absolutely beserk. More than wide receiver imagine worst process than. It's worth more than. It is it has rogers looks incredible. You're pulling away Davante Adams or pulling away Allen Lazard and doesn't matter. He's making stars at a big Bob, Tanya and. Get. An else has there been a team that was such a fraud team the year before and then was so legitimately good the next year. That's offer them good good for them. I have one question. So To. Who I mean I I loved you know coming out I think most people did. Brian Floor is says today or yesterday that to not ready, and then we see borough and Herbert they're reading. Does that concern you at all I like the pieces around their offensive line has been. A lot better than I think anybody expected and they have a lot of young pieces. There are a lot of guys that are. Locked up long-term devante Parker is locked up long-term to sickie is under contract for a couple more years Preston, Williams I mean the press Williams can only do better than what he has done so far so that I think the pieces around him are pretty good. The offense has been good under Chan Gailey or I think he's been better than expectation under the under Chan Gailey does that worry you though that or do think that's just coach speak i. Speak, yeah I think it's coachspeak and also much herbert being ready they WANNA be planum if they didn't if. Stat Linda. Until today. Yeah. I mean. He was clearly ready. So just because he's not ready, you know doesn't mean they're not ready obviously, you like to see it with herber and Herbert to A. Do you you said, maybe take herber overall I. Think Herbert's slotted in over two. Now because of what we've seen and we know the Russian fantasy there I would take herber over to but that's more of a appro. Herbert. Thing than I think it is a a anti to thing. Yeah, I don't think to his lost. Value but her gained a lot of value is is where I stand on it. All right. But I think anything you're in-depth tied in research anything promising from this rookie tight end class because I I don't think I have. Yeah. Zero with Adam Trotman in. GP That's about the most positive thing I can say about the rookie. Yeah, it's been a disaster for. Coca Matt who can't beat out Jimmy, Graham you know it's been a disaster for for Assisi but I do think that the one positive thing so far this rookie class is Harrison Bryant who's kind of quietly emerging a little bit in Cleveland. He's making life difficult for us in Hooper David Joke, who I think is GonNa be back this week. so He Harrison Bryant could it's hard for him to like deliver value but he was involved even before joker went down. So He's the guy that I do think is is pretty interesting. Within the context of a rookie class that's just massively disappointing. As. You say we might see some Albert Oh but it sounds like this fan injury isn't quite as bad. As it looked they're also run on a jake butts running a Lotta routes there. So I don't even know if I were no will get involved. But. Yeah. All right. We are going to ended there. This has been a ton of fun Evan thanks so much for coming on. This was just an absolute blast Mike. Thanks as always if you're joining the show, please write and review checkout everything establish the run just essential content for whatever type of fantasy football you are playing and we'll see you guys next.

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Seven Draft Tips to Win Your League! And a Mailbag (08/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Seven Draft Tips to Win Your League! And a Mailbag (08/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS SPORTS It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Now. Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie Heath Ben. Friday mailbag welcome to the show animates or Jamie Iceberg here. Happy Friday everybody less than two weeks until the start of the season I've got my oversized. Beckham. Jersey on Jamie I'm to rock and roll man I'm ready for football. I've got the Danny Canals Jersey hanging behind me in our officers. So yeah, it's a giant show. Oh Yeah. No, it is a giant show. We have important questions to answer. You just spoke to a bears beat writer Adam John's he gave you some interesting insight. So we'll talk about that. They got a great quote about Blake. Darwin from Jerry Jones who typically is not you know full of hyperbole right? But no, he he had some great things about Blake Darwin I WANNA know who's rising in the rankings basically we're preparing people for a weekend of drafting if you are drafting, we've got why I've got I think five draft tips how many did you come up with Jamie? Well you tell me come up with five which. I will make up on the run. I don't think I told you to come up with five. Did I. I love the. Four, five, four or five Oh this machine here. That says, Adam as. I said four or five Elo today we are going to do we draft you sent me this at eight thirty as I'm leaving the house. I didn't have a lot of time to think about. Four or five. People as they enter their drafts. Yeah. Okay. So we've got up to ten draft tips for you. Get. One Draft. At least two software why don't you Sunday? You still. People's draft status draft number one that is so bad. Let's let me get like the trending players that are either moving up or moving down for you right now last week we talked Damien Harrison Bryce love There are any other players right now that you WANNA spotlight don't don't look at ADP it's outdated these guys are higher or lower. Well I'll start with Bryce love because there's report from a guy that I trust it works for the Athletes Ben Stanbic he's played in some fancy leagues with me before he's. A season fantasy player. He says that it's not a lock that Bryce love will be on the active roster every week if they only carry three running backs because they'll go with Peterson, the goal Gibson in the goes jd mckissick over Bryce love, which is a little bit surprised to read that. So he's probably somebody that has to be trending down One guy that I'm very excited about I've said this time and time again but the reporters continue to glowing is Joshua Kelly you know he's the guy that I don't want to say that I plant my flag with him but he's somebody that I'm going to have a Lotta shares off I. Already have a lot of shares of him loud drafts coming up over the next two weeks and anybody that asked me, who's the sleeper guy that you are highly recommending this is the one because I do think he's going to be the backup to US nickel or the second guy to us neck ler and. He may not have the job over Justin. Jackson now he will have the dob over Justin Jackson by the end of the season. This is the guy that I want on all of my fantasy teams. So would you take Josh Kelley ahead of Bryce love I haven't okay. Would you take Josh Kelley head of Chase Edmunds. See. So that's the the interesting part of it. That's where you have to play the draft. So as the hype continues, maybe you have to take Josh Kelley headed Jason's I haven't had to do that yet. So if it comes down to those are the only two running backs available. Then, I'll probably take Josh Kelley over Jason, but you know if chase Edmunds becomes the guy for the Arizona. Backfield, he's probably going to be better than Josh Kelley unless neck alerts. So. I, guess, do you have any anyone else by the way anyone else you WanNa talk about before we move on. Risers. Risers followers or or you know what? Also players that you find yourself drafting a lot. Yeah I think I'm gonNA write this kind of my guys column. Next week and you know so be a lot of will fuller Murky Brown. Dj Charq there, three times. I. Had a a buddy at my eight year olds baseball practice and he had a salary cap draft on Thursday night and he said you know who are some guys that I should be looking at tight end is if I miss and there's three I say all the time you mentioned one. Blake. Jar, when you know I've talked about him a lot Chris Herndon is the other one and then Mike, is those are three guys that if I don't get one of the titans that I like in, there's eight like I've dropped gronk out of the top twelve Not Taking Austin Hooper. I'm not taking Jared Cook guys there typically drafted as top twelve guys I take one of those three almost every time in fact, get to why not fan in that group for he's he's in that group Yes but I'm just saying like for me. The three that I target are those three Fanton Hopkinson Jonah Smith are also in that group for short hundred percent those three guys I think all six of those guys. It wouldn't surprise me if three or four of them freak out they all could be terrible. Because from what we saw a year ago you know her not playing Darwin maybe he's not. Even, going to fill the whistle, but I think he just see paths for all of them. You know I think fan benefits with gauge a handler banged up I think Hopkinson We had daybreak head of the. Not, the ethic, the Detroit Free Press accuse me on HQ this week and he said Hopkinson. Despite the ankle injury he sat he's like that was a red flag for him but he said you watch him play and he's looking great I moved him up my ranking All those guys are in that ten to fifteen range for me and to be honest I would take all the Mobile Bronco. Okay and this is what Jerry Jones said about Blake. Darwin. is getting to spread his wings now whether it's coach McCarthy the offensive staff, his teammates he keeps showing up out there he's just he's really coming into his own and nothing would surprise me with him in terms of what production could be this year. He just keeps getting better his report with Dacca's outstanding and I really think that he's got a chance to step right in there. It'd be really good if not great tight end for us, Jerry. Jones on Blake Darwin I give you one more real quick just because people goes on HQ with us on Thursday in. recapping I highly recommend if you could find the segment, you just check it out on on demand for our to. So. Pete usually goes there every every easy goes to about fifteen or sixteen. Different stops in training camp and that's been changed because of the pandemic but he's still on the phone with guys that he trust and and and players GM's etc. it was just a great conversation and not about big name guys one in particular Thomas and he spoke to some people in. South. Carolina. He said same thing with Jerry. Jones. Just said he just keeps making place and you look at this offense in his Pete said I think we can all agree bad defense going to be throwing a lot referred. You know Bannon and he's talked about the projections for Teddy Bridgewater in with the anticipation is of how much those guys are GonNa Throw Lot of weapons in this offense. Some standout like McCaffrey and more some guys that are just you know in that Midland Group of of Anderson in Samuel. But Ian Thomas Somebody that they say has sort of clicked a little bit over the last couple of weeks and they're excited about him. so He's another talented. But he's another guy in that conversation that if you take a second look at him. Yet you know we we did I tried to do a segment yesterday called the trip down memory lane where I looked at I'm actually I'm Gonna I'm GonNa get to separate because I thought it was pretty funny I looked at some of the notes from last year's podcast notes and some of the reports that were coming out and things like that. and one of them was about Curtis Samuel and how he was making so many plays and it's going to happen in the regular season with just give you the quote, the Charlotte Observer he makes one or two plays everyday that brings a wealth factor and it's a safe bet the same continues once the regular season gets underway that was the Starlit Observer. That was on Curtis Samuel that was on August fifteenth or sixteenth, and the thing is that he had a hundred and five targets and nineteen carries he just had bad quarterback play. And I know you were just talking about and Thomas. But. I don't WanNa. Completely. Neglect Curtis here. They are probably going to throw ally and hopefully teddy bridgewater is a lot better than Kyle Allen but. If a guy gets a hundred and five targets and nineteen carries. He's probably GONNA be. Atop thirty wide receiver, I would say you know I don't know like obviously they have Robbie Anders not saying we should expect the same thing but I just think let's not forget how big a role Curtis Samuel had last year and his role is probably gonNA. Change a little bit because now Anderson is deep threat and so Samuel's GONNA run some different routes and they'll move him inside the the alternate with him in Dj more. That's Pete was was bringing up as well. just one more thing on the Thomas. You've heard me say this a couple times. Eighty targets. Is the number you need to be in the conversation for the top twelve. There were thirteen tight ends that had. Eighty targets. Of them finished I'm sorry. Eleven of the thirteen best tight ends had at least eighty targets last year. The two that did not were hunter Henry and Jericho. So thirteen tight ends but I'm sorry the top thirteen tight ends eleven had eighty targets. Now again, you've brought this up in, it's a great point. Do you WanNa be in the eleven to thirteen range or do you want to be in the top eight? Let's say. But. At least you get in the conversation right and it's like you want to. If I. I. Don't know if you've watched Hamilton yet but you want to be in the room where happens right so If you if you WANNA be in at the party, it's that eighty target number. We know who had eighty targets last year. Juggles Greg Olsen. Oh. Jason witnessed what I meant, but Greg Olsen. Here. So if he steps into an eighty target opportunity. In terms of Ian Thomas for the investment that you make. The floor is there the ceiling we don't know Yeah. You're right. It's a great great number to look at. Art a recap. Bryce love maybe down look you don't know what week one he might not be active, and so we got that report. So bryce love maybe stock down a little bit still worth late past like a flyer though still yeah. So That same buddy I told them some of the guys look for late in the salary cap and he got bryce love in Josh Kelley, he also got James Connor and so he sent me pictures roster this morning he said John Drop anybody for. Now who's another guy getting some high as clearly the second guy he's he's past Anthony, McFarland. There was any concern. And I said, no, you just wait. hopefully, next two weeks to see what happened since then this report comes out and he texted me goes dropped Bryce love yet. No don't don't drop. Bryce love because Adrian Peterson's thirty five Tony Gibson is still a work in progress but they like dating because could barely and so. I think Bryce love is somebody that you still take late but maybe not in the. Ten round nine to ten range where I think he was starting to go. Josh Kelley on the rise and Jamie's looking at Chris turn and Blake Darwin Mike. As a group of tight ends if he doesn't get one of his top eight to take a look at Leyton drafts and maybe draft to with them. So there's one of my five draft draft titans or you know what? I have a I have a tight end draft hip as well actually Jamie and. Very similar calling a greater late. And this is based on just all the draft done and what I found myself doing and I really like Mark Andrews and I want to take him I think more likely to take them in a too wide receiver league but every League we plan now is three receivers Affleck's so I feel like when Mark Andrews is being taken around four or five, I'm really building out my wide receivers, my starters, Mif at that point rounds four and five. So I haven't been able to get them so like Kid All Kelsey around to at some point mall about that I've been doing that if I don't do that it just seems like not necessarily intentionally, it just happens this way. I'm getting the Guy Loved to get his Hayden hearst. And then if not in hearst. then. We're talking Noah Fan Blake Jar with that group maybe taking two of them. So for me, it's been greater late. I haven't been messing around with the Ingram Hunter Henry Darren, waller. Group. And I it's not like I think they stink and their bus is just I'm really worried about other positions at that point in the draft. So Three more a hundred percent like. It's an hour throw Zach Ertz in Andrews an higher group know. Get Erz in round. Five It's worth it. You know depending on what your first four picks have been. But I'm with you, I'm not reaching for Waller. I'm not reaching Ingram I'm not reaching for under Henry. I'm certainly not reaching. Tyler. Hig He terrifies me you know it's one of those I haven't ranked basically. For Fear Missing. Out. More. So than I do in terms of confidence play. But I think you know it's hard to overlook what did his last five games? So if that guy shows up to any level, he's GonNa be a top ten GRONK is the one that I've just kinda decided. I'm out on so I put him behind those guys but yeah, I'm with you I think it's just one of those scenarios of take two of them. And played out you know I, was I was really did you took blake jarring in our I DP Jeff Right Travis Kelsey in the second round and then this is such a deep draft. There's there's twenty thirty spots where. There's a ton of. So yeah to John and I think I called you expletive. Chatted. Because I was I was going to pair him with Evan Ingram who got a good price you know. So if you get one of those guys that good price yeah take what was. So let's talk about that. Let's talk about what that good prices because this really changes for me to receiver versus three receiver or like one flex versus to flex. If you have to start three receivers in a flex or let's say it's two receivers much playing with two flexes that that is where I think I'm in this greater late strategy where I'm probably out on the mid around tight ends. But if if I'm in a to receiver league I, guess like. I'm really intrigued by Darren. Wall I guess I'm just more likely to go for the tight end rounds four through eight or something like that. But like do you have a range where where did you take Evan? Ingram, yesterday for example. Such. A hard draft to compare because the defensive guys are going but I think I got him like around ten. You know it was that was something silly like that. You Know I. Think. The thing you gotta gauge is for me. It's okay when I get to the point of when I see, it's like Jarvis Landry Julian Edelman I don't WanNa put Marvin Jones in that category. But you know those types of receivers that are the number three receivers. The ceiling may be a little bit capped. The. Floor is fine but you know are you looking for a difference making player and then it's the quarterbacks in in some cases when we get this around six range, some cases you still have. Watson. Wilson or Murray on the board. So I would lean that way. But when the quarterbacks are gone and that's the group of receivers. And the running backs are. In the Marlon Mac Kerryon Johnson maybe still, JK Dobbins, you know those type of guys the dolphins guys. And I look at it and say, okay, what's the best play for me at that point? Then, is when I pull the trigger on. Ingraham or waller. Or Henry if they're still there. Okay. All right. Great stuff. That's when I buy into that group. What I would like to do is wait another round and get Hayhurst personal. Okay Great. Do. You want me to go or do you want you to go with another tip go ahead you can go. All right. The strength of the fantasy draft appears to be the rounds three through five wide receivers and you should keep that in mind with your first two picks but I think in terms of whereas the is any position particularly the strongest rounds three through five wide receivers. There are probably a dozen of them who have a chance to be top ten. Some have a chance to be top five Kenny Golladay Alan Robinson Mike Evans. Juju Smith. Schuster Cooper Cup Robert Woods and then you know a little bit later lock metcalf maclaurin Shark. You want to be in on that run, and that's why don't really see why you shouldn't take at least one running back with one of your first two picks. So I think you basically the drafts are dictated by the fact that I know I'm going to come away with Auto Beckham's in that group wide receivers I love in rounds three to five. Okay. Amazing. It really is amazing. You know and I think we're going to end up seeing. Guys like maclaurin Sutton Chart digs for sure. Late round five and in some cases around six and look Aj Greens Paxton again, you WANNA buy in on him t y Hilton if you WANNA buy in on him round six I mean that's probably where they're gonNA. End Up Keenan Allen around five especially PR that's still not bad especially with autocracies and get. So I'll give you example we talked about this with the draft. Did I think it was our snickers mock draft I think you win Julio End Drake Twelve. Not Mistaking. Ppo I had a decision to make in the DP drafts. So we can actually talk about the offense guys I had the tenth pick and Davante. Adams was there. That's why I took but I was I was debating because Mal Sanders was still there and I was like you know I don't have any shares of Davante Adams yet because I've been going running back running back. So I'm like okay. standards is on the Board Drake's on the Board Jacobs Dylan the board. Job. All I said I don't think I'm GonNa miss on one of those guys. Let me take Adams attend and see which running back comes back. It was awesome. NECKER had I taken? And unless you say fell the same way or cause trouble in after actor taking those two guys. I took Allen really in round three. So let's he would have been my number one receiver and I took job that Taylor around four instead of taking the could have taken Cooper Robert. Woods? Feel like I like that start better. Much I. Loved about that right. So they just keep that in mind those rounds three, four, five wide receivers are just it's just loaded this year. DRAT. My draft day tip number three. So I've got so far greater related tight end strengthen draft appears to be around three and five wide receivers number three draft at least two year too wide receivers I I'm a big believer in this. I wish, Jamie and your three wide receiver. So young wide receivers, you're too wide receivers it's not hard to do. It starts with AJ Brown terror maclaurin Decay Metcalf Marquess Brown deontay. Johnson. If you miss out on all of them Daria Slayton, deebo Samuel Perez Campbell. If you're in a super deep league miles Boykin, getting some hype, what does this based on? All right just look. At the last three years, Michael Thomas had a great rookie year. He was even better in his second year one, hundred, four catches over twelve hundred yards tyreek hill was wide receiver, twenty, two and ADP, and he finished as receiver nine. He had almost twelve hundred yards and seven touchdowns. Robbie Anderson was wide receiver, Fifty, seven and ADP that year and he finished his wide receiver. The next year. Juju. Smith Schuster was amid round pick he was wide receiver eight hundred, eighty, p. he finished with fourteen hundred yards and seven touchdowns wide receiver. Kenny Golladay Chris Godwin, they were not top fifty picks adp they both had really solid years. God had over one thousand yards. Cooper cop had a huge second year but it got cut shot should short with the ACL and then obviously last year. Dj More Dj. Char Cohen said Michael Gallup Calvin Ridley. These guys are breaking out trying to get at least two of them. That's number three and you know I obviously. Nausea I. Talk A lot about the thirty receivers, but it's a building process. You know. So when they when they have these good second years, sometimes they have a better third year but you know you want to get in on it when it's on the right especially, if you're talking about like some keeper League implications, if you could get a guy with mid round pick and then he blows up and you have him at that value going into your three hopefully. Even gets a little bit better. Sure. Yeah. Your to your three for wide receivers or big break years. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa Piggyback off that was something similar but not about the second year I receivers and and this is something we talk about a lot don't be afraid of this is a tip don't be afraid of league winning guys if they have a bad track record but the situation is good and you know the guy want to talk about and that's what. I didn't know you were talking about it's not just him in particular, but it's guys that Markey's Brown for example, deontay Johnson for example I know you mentioned those two guys in particular but? They have scenarios at play with them that you look at it and say, can they be League winning type of guys? Willfuller obviously with the injury situation Markey's Brown are they gonNA throw enough as he big enough to be number one type of Guy the Johnson is he the second guy? Is he the Fourth Guy having a good camp and James? Washington's has been there and Johnson's been in this. In this, you know injury situation that he's been you know for for few days deebo Samuel is and when I say League winner doesn't have to be a top ten guy but somebody that you could end up like like Robbie Anderson for for example, he said the fifty seven player off the board. Eighteen player by the end the season, right? It's it's those type of guys that you could just starting them every week and I paid nothing for them. I got them at at reasonable prices. Floor is not a reasonable price in round seven or eight depending on how far he goes but if he hits to the level that I think he could and a lot of people think he could. He's going to be a top wide receiver. So. Yeah. Who who else is in this is in this group like Nicole Hartman maybe. Right. Those guys injuries I'm just talking about guys that don't need injuries but yeah, I mean. chase Edmunds is a good one Tony Pollard. Alexander Madison. You want these guys on your on your roster you gotta be patient some cases with these. Running backs but. If they hit their great. I I was more looking at the guys that are you know? Because the counter argument to that is a Willfuller is always hurt deontay Johnson rolling play you know and and maybe I'm playing off of comments from my colleague Dave Fuller Guy. Because, the injury track record he's not at the Johnson guy because he sees a crowded receiving for those type of. counterarguments to these type of players Yeah Right. It's all about all about costs for sure. Okay. Here's another tip from me. Round six for QB's three through six. It feels like the. Never, what happened yesterday by the way? How did not comment on that with Kyle? By comments. That you wanted to marry you didn't see those. That I. I said. Okay, I want to like about four picks before me before I was up I said to you I want to draft. Marie. So badly like more than I've ever wanted to draft a player at a particular spot ever and I said one more pick all had caps and head right before I went jake. Tyler Perry yet, I didn't see the lead up to it. I just saw the whole thing. So it was hard. It was hard to get the gist of what you're doing so. I literally can't even. Yeah. So I don't know how realistic it is. They're going it seems around five, the back, Russell Deshaun cuyler group, but to me like Ralph five five, and maybe this is another to receiver versus three receiver to flex versus one flex thing. I think Jamie as you do more drafts especially wants they count. You figure out the players that you really really like and it's Cuyler Murray? Obsessed with him I might have to start taking him around five. I don't necessarily want to, but it might have to. But if I get him around six, it's a no-brainer. Don't even care what my team looks like. It's a no brainer. That's the that's the range ranged from me around six for those four quarterbacks. So PRISCO. Spoke to some people out in Arizona. They're just over the moon for him that he's I one in last one out. Put on some weight. You know muscle and? Really connecting with Hopkins. In that same conversation he pizza there they told him you knock is doing a good job but don't expect hundred fifty targets. And then my last tip would be prepared for injuries and I think this is this is really pandemic related prepare for absences due to covert but also. What we VIC Fangio said about all the soft tissue injuries that his team has had more like eight days of this year's camp than all of training camp preseason. Ota's combined whenever he said but in baseball pitchers or. The amount of. Have we settled on the amount of our spots that we should tell people? Know. Three five. Well. The tricky thing for me is like, what? What's who goes on the art anyone who was injured or just cove it The way. I've done my leagues is. Covert related absences because I think it's just. Such a weird situation that we're going to deal with for the first time. And short-term Meyer. So I don't I'm not gonNA make somebody if we're GONNA put an Irish pot out there. You know if somebody misses eight games. They can hold. Okay, Gatekeeper Leagues and whatnot. They can put our guys on. Yeah but I don't usually do with Keith Burley's dynasties different. I do think we might see more injuries this year just because of the black of preseason, the lack of contact. As total guests is a total guess but. I'll give you I'll give you the running back group. I have from yesterday's draft which keep in mind there's really not much on waivers. It's such deep benches took Alvin Kamara. In. Round. One I took model Jones, I think in round five? Took Cam acre off. Ya I did actually yes. I can makers I took Daryl Henderson. Latavius Murray to backup up Kamera Alexander Madison. Shot and I think that's it So I have the saints, backfield. I. Have Two of the Rams guys have Ronald Jones and I've Alexander Madison. But you know I wanted to give myself a little kamerhe insurance a little rams insurance. So I'm draft backups NFL Inter Madison if the most injury running back in the first round happens get injured in this year where which I think a lot of injuries. The same thing by taking Barrington Evans I kind of buyer's remorse on Bryce love took high but still drafted him and I also handcuffed John Taylor with Marla Mac in the standpoint of. If if Taylor is not getting the work that I hope I can plug McIntyre especially the start of the season. So I think I've got six tips total then let's super missing anything. We have our share tight end strategy recalling greater late. Again if you get a mid round guy at the right spot, that's fine. Got Round three to five wide receivers to kind of dictate your draft draft year two guys, and you're three wide receivers. That's three tips. Number four was don't be afraid of league winning guys with bad track records but have good situations like a will fuller. Round six for cubes three through six especially Kyle Murray that was a tip number five. The especially College Maria was my thing. I don't want to speak for Jamie there. And prepare for injuries. That's my six tip anything else. I mean, I just say something we've stayed for years. You know wait on quarterback and. You can find to of. Ben Rothlisberger who's getting Rave Reviews Jared Goff. Who should play better than he did last year especially out those four games against just amazing defenses. Any pooped the bed. Daniel Jones. Matthew Stafford. Who is the number three quarterback or top three quarterback in points per game before his injury? There's just so many guys that are good You don't have to reach for quarterback early. So if you don't get one of the super, six guys. And mahomes and Lamar Jackson may go around one in your league. speaking of which I have to father son drafts weekend my eight year old is going into your four. Take Lamar Jackson in round two. And my five year old is doing it for the first time. He wants to take Patrick Mahomes in round one. So. It's GonNa be fun conversation as I teach them the ways of the fantasy world but you can get. Great quarterback play late, it happens all the time. All. The Time Yup and you know Mahomes was amazing in twenty eighteen. We don't know what would have happened if he'd never got the ankle injury or the knee injury, but you know what injuries happen. And it could happen. Got You draft in the first round at that position that is so deep. Right. We've got apple PODCASTS, questions and emails to read. We've got a spot in the podcast listeners league that's up for bid on Ebay. shrager you want to tell everybody how to find it to do. 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Back with your news and notes, and then we'll get your questions. So saquon, Barkley in Sterling Shepard they they said, they haven't ruled out sitting out Games in response to the Jacob. Blake shooting were score seeing that in all the other sports around the country and I don't if this happens I, don't think it would be exclusive to one team. So I'm not sure Jamie what's what's make of this right now I don't think it's GonNa change anyone's draft strategy, but we did get some questions about it. So I thought I'd bring it up any. Any fantasy spin on it. No. No No. No fantasy stuff. You know what? I'm not GonNa make you answer that. Just Look I. wouldn't I wouldn't let any social situations dictate how you're drafting because you said it best. If it's GONNA be two one team. It's GonNa be to every team and the players have a right to do what they WANNA do So treat your drafts. Non Injury. Related scenarios as you would prior to any thought getting jet. Yeah and I'm sorry for phrasing that such a inelegant way. My least favorite part of this is like addressing these nationalist, which has been twenty twenty summed up. So look. Just, support I support these actions and I. Just I. Hope we can. Make things better out there. Jamie spoke to Adam Johns, who covers the bears for the athletic and what did he tell you? So he touched on, you know clearly a the the big topics of the bears this week in this training camp with David Montgomery's injury. He said two to four weeks. They're still hopefully get him back for week one, but he doesn't expect it to be a long-term injury and when he does come back. Prior to the injury, they were looking at him as a and this is reported clearly two, hundred, seventy, five, carry guy you know he said didn't think three hundred carries, but you know he's look really good in training camp, and so it's an unfortunate setback for guy who I thought was going to have a bounceback campaign so. I don't know what guys talked about on Thursday show or Friday shows accuse me following the injury but I think he's still a guy that I'm going to look for round seven NPR round eight if it falls that way around six to seven in non or half. PBR. Because it's not a long term absence and still should be the guy for the bears unless they make a transaction over the next couple of days but it doesn't sound like GonNa be the case in terms. Of Allen Robinson. He said the bears just being cautious with his ankle injury, but he also said that if he's not back soon, you gotta start to worry a little bit about week one. So just keep that in the back of your mind without Roms I have dropped robson a couple spots just because you compare him to that group of Mike Evans Juju, the Rams, guys you know. So he's in that mix i. put him behind Mike. Evans for example NPR Evans a couple spots behind. The quarterback one was the most interesting and he said he expects even though foles is take a little bit of a lead right now that he expects trubisky to be the starter week one which I'm sure we'll make cummings happy but. He also said that they're going to have a scrimmage this weekend that could determine maybe who pulls ahead of the other guy, and the thing that he was sort of alluding to is it's easier to start trubisky and then pull him. As opposed to starting foles and then pulling him because you know if you go that route at least you're giving us the opportunity to say we gave you one more shot and you failed again but he brought up. The relevancy of the quarterbacks coach John Depot who with Nick. Foles in Jacksonville and that influence that he may have especially Nagy as relationship with Foale's. previously. Tie Johnson remember him. He has been seeing some first team reps for the lions with the Andrea. Swift sidelined. So it's running back tied Johnson I. Don't think we're drafting tied Johnson right? No but you got to be a little bit concerned about swift now because this is a a young player who is missing time and if the talk is playing in passing situations. That's where he needs to work. So I'm concerned I. Think if if you're debating I know we've had this conversation with Ben. Batch if you're debating camakers John Jayso to me, it's easy to point I'm taking about David Montgomery Andrea Swift I'm taking swift. I still think there's more upside within PTR NON PR take Montgomery Okay and Devin single terry boy. He's had some fumbling issues according to ethnic just doesn't see. It's funny because I'm you know we're not there not a practice, but it just feels like there's been a lot of negative reports about single but there's also been some pipe and it's easy to forget just how good he was last year I mean per carry he was incredible. He did catch some passes. I know he wasn't great in the passing game but he he had. He had a taught of carries I mean he was one of the biggest workhorses. Devon. Single Terry to end the season, and then he got a lot of work in the playoff game. So I'm wondering if he's going to start falling so far it's going to be good value. But when are you gonNA take Devon Single Terry I have right now in my rankings non. Just staring at it. Single Terry Montgomery's Moss. That's how close they are me right now. I'm not taking single terry at the earliest earliest mid around six. alrighty. Well. Regulate. Through questions fantasy regulators in the subject line fantasy football CBS dot. com. This is from Neil. Keep relief debate requires your influence. Our Commissioner recently decided two weeks ago to put our league on hold until next season. The issue at hand is that there were trades made and approved over the summer while our league was still operating as if we were playing in two thousand twenty, the question is, should these trades be honored when the League returns for the twenty twenty one season or should the commissioner rescind the trades for what it's worth one team gave up AJ Brown and Kareem Hunt and got back the Andrei Hopkins and. Guessing Derek I duNno Henry. He just said so Jamie, these these trades were made the season was canceled. Put on hold until two thousand, twenty, one should trade stand. Yes. Because he made the before the League was decided to plead a whole. Disagree with what say this? Going to be like, take the bridge here Recent trades and let them if they WANNA. Do it again knowing the situation? They can do it again. Why not? Choice. Personally I'd recent the commissioner and clearly got yeah. What the hell, why are people doing this? This is really upsetting me for obvious presence. Don't. Look. League that I started several years ago and there's I think three teams. That two people share team. two of them are two of the teams are two brothers and another one is to France. and. One of the the. decided he didn't want to play the league this year. And suggested, let's put on hold and I was like there's there's no way I mean that's just. If they're playing football were playing fantasy. If you don't WanNa. Do the League don't do I can't force you to do it. Is only person that heard my brothers my brothers League is not playing this year they're convinces not going to finish from what? I understand. I think that it will finish a more optimistic now than it was baseball is finishing but here's the thing about baseball is like first of all baseball finishing before flu season and baseball is able to cancel games and make them up. That is my one question for football. Baseball. Gets two guys on a team or two guys at an organization. For example, test positive like the mets last weekend, they cancelled their entire weekend series. So they took basically four days off I think I don't know what happens with football I. I was curious why they didn't say. All right. Let's let's play a twelve game season and let's do it in seventeen weeks and give ourselves some buffer. Football is going to have to have lower or higher standards for cancelling games because if two people in an organization in football have cove it. You can't just cancel the game if you do. Then we're in trouble, but the testing is getting a little bit better. There was a big development yesterday. I'm more optimistic now that they're going to finish it but this is why I Just. Started Start Your fantasy season if it gets canceled and have rules about what happens in terms of. You can you can you can figure that out the other part of it is and I? Think this is something that. Is just purely A. Conspiracy, theory but. Football's always kind of wanted to get to president's weekend. And how? Monday off. I wouldn't be surprised if they're in their mind banking in if they had to push back the playoffs a few weeks I guess, they could keep extending it. Sure. Down the season, are you know what? Let's get to the questions here? We've got a lot of them start with apple podcasts questions about yearly play play, League. From a small town in northeastern Massachusetts I'm sorry I don't have this person's name. It's my bad. Okay this keep the podcast coming. We get through my crappy workdays. Pick nine and a ten team full. Pr. To Keeper Startup League I'm Hoping Clyde Edwards either falls to me and I can grab Jacob's with pick twelve. If Clyde Edwards does not fall to me at the ninth pick and a startup keeper League Ptr, who do you recommend grabbing with my first pick? So you're hoping forever to Lehrer. Young Mile Sanders would be great. Jess Jacobs would be great. Yeah I'm just trying to think like. You know this is something I don't see enough of Nick Chubb next year without Kareem Hunt there. Yet has top five upside. Mixing. Mixing or is he like too old? I don't think too old but like mixing this whole thing with the migraines started meal nervous. Because of the contract. Yeah. I don't think it's migrants right? But in any event, how about Jonathan Taylor John Taylor worthless as When you when you asked me that like the first place I went to actually Jacob? Dobbins. Like That's way too soon for those guys, 'cause you want to be competitive this year. But I think like Jacobs Chubb Sanders. All three of those guys are probably the trio I would look for you can get to them especially since you're picking up the back in the round one. that's rival. This is from Nick in California I just drafted a ten team league. I'm not comfortable with my last two picks, Allen Lazard and Robbie Anderson should drop one of them for Brady. Ryan. wentz. Even though I have Lamar Jackson I would probably drop Robbie Anderson for one and then you know should. A Jackson get hurt or be one of those guys as a blow a game. Try and trade them so. if those quarterbacks are said, Eighteen League ten team League Wentz Brady available. So I go look to see. Josh Kelly was available I. Yeah I. Mean Honestly I'm not sure lazard needs to be on the ten team league One thing we don't. Yeah you may not need Brady Ryan her wins, but it's not a horrible idea to keep him keep those guys away from your opponents. Against them so I I would definitely drop probably Anderson I might both guys. This is something that you run into a ten team league in some cases if you have a really good twelve team draft or salary cap scenario so our salary cap, like I don't know if you've talked about this Might team took a very balanced approach. And my two worst players right now. Are Making Seki. Jared. Goff. When am I going to drop those guys if they play well. I can't. Yeah I've had that I've had that issue before the quarterback like right I can't I just can't eat another position, but I have to drop him. He's so good, right? It's weird. So like you run more so intense like you run into those scenarios, intensive leagues like who am I cutting? Oh my gosh this case it's not so hard. But I think if you're going to drop like I would I would probably hold those are just in case sure. He does have top thirty upside because I think he does. But Robbie Anderson I think it'd be hard for him in that offense to be consistently I let let's now pick it up real from Jim in Detroit. How much does running back ranking change when rushing points are one point five points for ten yards. A TON PR league. That's receiving to. He said rushing. Yeah I, mean you want the guys are going to be in the rushing leading category for her so In Derrick Henry is a little better in that department nick chubs better not department I is this is like ridiculous but this is where you prioritize some just at the top you prioritize Zeke over tomorrow I mean I'm not taking a wide receiver I'm taking any running back. Okay. Any running back that could get a thousand yards like fifteen hundred yards in a normal scoring so but but it could be the same for the receivers we. Say that he said rushing points or one point five yards it's a PR league right but okay. So in this case, Radic Austin gets downgraded. Even those are. A behind who though. Job for example PTR. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But like nick job to me Nick had. Michael Thomas. Again. Let's receivers get one unless the receivers get. To the way I interpreted this as what what changes for the backs. Yeah Okay. From wake twenty three how do you determine draft order? The one I always chooses draft order will automatically randomize one hour before your draft starts. Feel like it's fair across the League. So you want to give people a chance to prepare. Yeah, I don't I don't know I like the randomized. But I don't know that you need to do just one hour before give people chance to trade chance to prepare. Yeah I think they should know. Few days out. Yeah. This is for Mad Ozzy twenty-seven twelve team league leaked keepers, AJ? Brown. Is One keeper who should my second be? Boston Scott as one of my last picks or Adam feeling with my fourth pick fourth round pick. I probably take feeling just to. Get that secular sabor. From J pave. Pr Juju or Mike Evans know your limit or penalty for rounds. You to do okay and from forty to God. Are there fascinating because what we don't know what's happening next year? Yeah And they both could have different quarterbacks next year. Are there any wide receivers with good fantasy? Matt, matchups does this matter? It matters. But. Again. I'll go back to we saw two teams in the AFC north already lose key members of their secondary. In. Rural. Thomas and grant help it. You know. So corners are GONNA get hurt. At I wouldn't base my drafting solely on what the good match ups are versus with the bats are. Unfamiliar With wide. Receiver. So of bad matchups I'm thinking okay like. I think the AFC. South have some pretty bad. Past defenses. So Ty Hilton is interesting I mean at Jacksonville Minnesota we know their quarterback situation could be pretty ugly. The jets Yuck the bears nine map easy. The browns they just lost greedy Williams the bengals and up at the lions. Like the whole schedule for every cold seems to be really favourable. Sorry I. Don't have more answers for your time for emails. And this is a really good email here from. Matt. In the Bay I'm GonNa Shorten it and just say this. He wants to know why we're people were kind of fading the forty niners other than George. cadle not a lot of for moster depots. Kind of a late round pick nobody seems to give a thought to Jimmy Garoppolo but they were one of the best offenses last year with Garoppolo coming off an ACL. His first year playing full-time under kyle. Shanahan now got mckim back. He's. They may have upgraded at left tackle. Trent Williams maybe so yeah I mean your do you think that the niners offense is not respected enough and fantasy? The passing game for example, which ties in Garoppolo their best receiver is hurt. Like, how how much love are we supposed to give Deebo Samuel? If he's one hundred percent He's a top thirty wide receiver no. Question. Let's talk. Though because we never mentioned him as a late round pick but well, he just has to. Sit here and say. He just has to throw more. But it's not just that. Why are we downgrading in Rogers? His supporting cast has been stripped away. If you take away deebo Samuel for a significant stretch. We don't what are you gonNa do who's battling a hamstring but right now just rely on George Kill right now it seems like depots not going to miss a lot of time. Though, he may not miss a game I. mean they seem pretty optime, not miss a game and he may have a setback in miss several games. That's the nature of that injury but you okay, you sure. But let's say back two or three. You Know Garoppolo the the reason why you would like Garoppolo is that even Nick Nick mullins. Jimmy. Garoppolo every quarterback in the San Francisco offense under Shan beginning with Garoppolo three seasons ago and then Melinda and then they have been among the best in yards per attempt they shannon genius they're great offense. So if they throw more like he doesn't, he's a statue doesn't run that sucks. But he could be, yes. Sure. Throw Garoppolo in there. He could be a top twelve guy like back end he was thirteen last year. That's so in terms of season production, he was the thirteenth quarterback he throws touchdowns I mean that's the the nice thing about. But to be Garoppolo in Kirk cousins or the same type of guy, they're not going to hurt you but I don't think they're going to win your league unless something dramatically changes and and to say I know you're you're reading the reports but what are the forty niners continuing to do now could jalen hurts injury. Drinking and receivers right? I mean it's. It's pretty obvious that there's this is a position of of need for yeah. Also, Garoppolo just doesn't seem like he has like top five upside and most stirred in a timeshare. Okay. Moving on Jim in Michigan. Why does Philip Lindsey get more love than Jordan Henderson and the question is not about Jordan Howard. Now, it's about Jordan Howard in the past I, looked at the first few years stats, Jordan Howard Alfred Morris, and Philip Lindsay with Melvin Gordon in town it wouldn't surprise me to see Lindsey get the same treatment that Alfred. Morris. Jordan Howard Got Lindsay is in the dead zone and I for one say stay. You can. I I think they're both in timeshares. And I think that Howard his lack of a role in the passing game in. I haven't seen this from the dolphins, but we know it's happened in the past and Chicago and Philadelphia where they said he's going to be involved as a pass catcher and he's ever really involved as basket. Now Map Rita's career high as twenty seven catches. So it doesn't scream off the page. He's GonNa come in and be this big time pass catching running back. But I would anticipate based on their skill set that breed is a better pass catcher and use more in that role in Jordan. Howard is so Lindsey. If you look last year four of his things, Ford I seventy five dollars I eight games at least four catches. So while he does not do a lot with it and his pass protection may not be good. He's been getting good reviews on that this year, and maybe he takes a little bit of that away from Melvin Gordon. So they're very similar ranked for me. I would I would look at it. This way in non Pr Howard's probably got an edge because he's probably GONNA lead the dolphins in rushing touchdowns in pr I think Lindsay hasn't it? Right next email is from Mike due to their tremendous upside. Would you have any qualms about taking Clyde Edwards layer and Jonathan Taylor as your to starting running backs and a half VP league. It's just you're adding risk. To the scenario but. I don't know if I guess I shouldn't say that because I don't know how much is with excellent barring injury he's GonNa get the chance to be the guy the question is Ed Resilience Your first round pick whereas when is your? Jonathan Taylor pick for fourth round then no absolutely not you probably want to. Take, some more running backs as you may not want to start Taylor right away. But boy, you could win league with those two guys. From Paul. I'm a Commission Dynasty League. One of my league mates brought up a question was hoping you guys can help Sunday games are played as normal matchups are decided, but there's a matchup or that have players on the Monday night game to be decided. But what happens if the Monday night game gets cancelled on Monday because of covid? What should the protocol be if that happens? Typically I think what we have seen with some natural disaster scenario hurricanes not that are scoring goes through Tuesday. I don't know what we would do if there's a game push back to Tuesday. For example, say the NFL said we're GONNA play the game on Tuesday. Because whatever? My guess is that our system would adjust or you adjusted manually. But if the game happens in that scoring period. Account. So, if they push it to Wednesday, the push, the Thursday, and then the schedule gets altered, but it's still the week to schedule per se. I would count it the week to score. As, far as the baseball has been going if a game just gets canceled like let's say the game gets canceled and they the the NFL schedule, the Games so that teams have calmed by weeks. Early in the season, you play teams that have common by week early in the year. So like let's say game gets cancelled and then they these teams can make it up on a bi week and they lose their by. The way works fantasy baseball right now is like you just get screwed I mean. Right that's the scoring period with become. That's the scoring period and you know if you had the mets last weekend and they didn't play their weekend games has got cancelled. You just didn't get the points and that was it. So it's a decision to make and I don't have a concrete answer but I would think that if the game gets made up later in the year. You lose your lose. You just don't get the points basically just kind of. Crap. Out. Of. Luck. From Feast in Montclair New Jersey. Dear, Harry Lloyd and Sea Bass. Ben Shrager that Harry? Lloyd and Sea Bass. nope. Dumb and dumber. I you didn't like dumb and dumber right. Was Okay. I didn't think it was I. I've been listening to you guys dumb and dumber dumb and Dumber, right? Is there a difference the? Yeah. Yes. It was a very, very bad sequel. Might have been it. No you watch the original one. Right it was the original. Okay. What was the second one when they were younger? Was that considered the sequel? A prequel sequel the one that they did a couple years ago Ansi look bad I'm not watching any of the other than dumb and dumber watching any of the other ones. The originals is the only one and it's great to have shrager on here because his takes are worse than mine. So. I have a chance to keep La- viscous Chenault for up to five years in my keeper League I'm keeping kill Maclaurin and either Chenault Gallup, or Deebo. So would you take Chenault galloper depot and feels like he can take he can keep Chenault for longer than the others. What does he have to make the decision now? That's a draft pick. You. Your keepers before the season. I guess. So yeah. That's weird. McLaren is an easy one. Now he's keeping McClure, and so it's one out of Chenault Galloping Depot. I mean Gallup could be the number one somewhere else for all we know. WHO WOULD YOU KEEP? I think it's a tough decision I would have to make the decision now keeping up up. Okay. This is from Chris. I'm going to attend team PR SUPER FLEX League with no spot for a tight end you can. Have a wide receiver slash tight end spot. So with that said, where do tight ends go when they drafted if you don't have to start one Chelsea and kiddle would be Kelsey. would be mid around to. Kill. Would be late Ron to really around three. I kind of you them like where draft wide receivers were having well, like we're taking Kelsey over Hopkins in a normal week. Yes would you do that in this league where you don't have to SORTA tight on Yeah. I think he's GonNa to put up similar numbers. T-. Yeah okay. From Joe Salary. Cab. Draft. Questions. I didn't have time for all them Joe I'm sorry. But how do you address your dollar values for two hundred dollar budgets? It can't be as simple as just doubling them because they will be there will still be dollar bids. In two hundred dollar. Budget leaks. So it's actually a double. Double the top guys. You double, you might be able to spend a little bit more on the elite guys right. Then just doubling their values. Because you will save money with those dollar bids and a two hundred dollar leagues. The same guys we're going for a dollar in a one hundred dollars going for a dollar and a two hundred dollar leagues you have a few extra bucks to spend maybe. Yes. But. I think you know he's still look at the top guys like McCaffrey's around thirty five typically in a hundred dollar budget. Let's one more here. Maybe it goes for seventy five and a two hundred but. One more question from. Russ. Basically wants to know who the best top ten offenses and targeting like number two and number three receivers on those teams. The jets, Washington. Ball teams Chicago. Yeah. The chiefs are interesting because Kelsey is obviously they're they're number two receiver but the chiefs are the best the chiefs what cowboys Ravens throw a lot. I mean the forty niners grade. Great fantasy options. The cowboys are amazing. The saints are amazing. Falcon, but I'm going to put the steelers backup there the Falcons yes. I think. See. This is where it gets fun because I think we're GONNA see some good offensive performances from Jacksonville and Carolina. But those aren't great skill position players in Jacksonville, for example. I don't know that they're going to be top ten offenses Carolina but I think they're gonNA, throw a lot both those teams. Who Else? Who Else? The the Browns They have the potential to be. chargers. With Mike Williams injury. Giants Eagles. Eagles for sure alliance injuries not good. Lions. Yeah I think. So but again, you know we're we're talking passing games in this case, these some of those teams to run the ball very well. Box Yeah Duck showed cardinals, rams they have a chance every every team in the NFC west has a chance to be tapped in. We probably just listed half the League as offense. All right. Thanks for your emails everybody your apple podcast questions. If you're drafting this week, best of luck to you, we got another episode of Sunday night or Monday. 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Episode 99: Silva & Levitan Round-by-Round Favorite Targets

Establish The Run

55:23 min | 1 year ago

Episode 99: Silva & Levitan Round-by-Round Favorite Targets

"They. Do. Welcome to episode ninety nine the official established the run DOT COM podcast. My name is Adam Lebanon. I'm one of the cofounders here at Etr. It is final exam time week. One is just two short weeks away. So it is time for us to plant the flag on our guys for that. I of course, I am joined by the man who is the market it is fellow co Founder Evan. Evan what's going on a lot is going on a lot is going on, we have David Montgomery. Letting the Torri Cohen troopers off the hook. Leoni just holding a dance party at his home right now as we speak. In, but no, this podcast that we're about to do is I think one of our most actionable of the entire year we've been getting a lot of requests for really weeks at this point about this specific podcast in it's a fun one to do. We had a lot of success with the guys who chose for this podcast last year and I expect to have more success in twenty twenty. Yeah. 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Think a lot of our opponents have probably fallen behind in research in this unique off season. we've been putting our hearts and soul into this drafted for the last five months. Furthermore, most you guys know that my favorite form of fantasy and where I spend ninety five percent of my time is in DFS our in season package contains plenty of season-long content, a lot of it, but I also think that Evan in myself and drew in Leoni and wiggins and Taylor some of. The highest stakes most successful the best players in the game the in season package contains everything we think you need to win in defense. So we have the bundle package up now packages adoped draft hit the in season. For the lowest price you will find all year if you want if you already have the draft kit in one to upgrade to bundle to shoot us in Mount Support. Okay. Let's get to keep in mind here. We are very loosely basing this on underdog eighty people. What we're really trying to replicate is a home league. You guys are drafted with your buddies on Yahoo ESPN and ADP. We know is really really soft. You can read my articles about abusing the default rankings on the site and how can gain leverage bodies really sock rankings and people relying on them. This these rounds are not for. TRUE SPA grinders in high stakes online lease. We've covered all that over the last few months. So we're going to go round by round here with a loose home league eighty p talk about our favorite guys in round one Evan. Let's kick it off. Where would you prefer obviously round one is going to depend on where you wide slot you draw where would you prefer draft at this point Evan and who would you take? One Oh one or. Toward the very very back end. But in this particular circumstance I put his primary target at at the one one Christian McCaffrey I would prefer I. Think if you give me any selection in the first round, I will take WanNa one. Standard the tooth return is rough. It can be very, very rough. But Christian McCaffrey I think gives you such a significant edge again scored nine more fantasy points per game in pr any other running back. In fantasy football last year and I think that he's going to be similarly productive this year. So he would be my number one target I did come with a backup target though he not a player that deserves to go toward the end of the first round. Is a player you can get in the middle of the first round and that is Derrick Henry. Because I think that he's going to set a career high in. I love his schedule According to Warren sharps strength of schedule based on opponent win totals. Titans have the second easiest schedule in. League. Issue that bodes really well for his game script. I, don't trust during during the Evans as a third round pick out of Appalachian state to earn a very, very big role in his first season and so I think Derrick Henry is going to play in passing situations a little bit more if we could just get him a thirty, thirty, five catches, I think that would be a great compliment to what I think we`re Going to get from him as a rusher in I like the titans issue over on their win total at eight and a half I think they're going to be a rock solid team once again. Yeah. I bet the titans to win a sapling that got round plus one, seventy, five plus one eighty a while back and it's crazy people probably know that I have been a last year shows trepidation on Derrick Henry at the. Level due to non game flow independence due to lack of a passing role but he needs kind of half ptr formats that a lot of people are playing. I think Derrick Henry is an awesome target to I would actually right now take him above Dobbin Cook, I would take him above Clyde Edwards layer is just set up so Many guys who's literally entire. Offensive Scheme is built around one player in their entire offense scheme is built around directory. No better bet. Leeann touchdowns no better bet to have three hundred. CARRIES IF GET MCCAFFREY IF I didn't get the big dog the target for me would be mild sanders and I know he has his lower body injury right now I thought they'd sign a veteran all off season doesn't look like that's going to happen I mean it's August twenty six they had done so So yeah, I think Boston involved a little bit but man everything at affiliates how high they are on miles sanders so I think his pass catcher was overall athleticism. His role is a really good fit at the back end of the first round. Yeah, those would be my favorites and I would add clyde over to layer in there too as guy that I really would not mind having either at the back end around one although I think he's been going a little bit higher than that. Round. What is not where it's interesting? It starts getting interesting as we kind of go deeper here around two three, four, five six. Let's get to `round to Evan who's your favorite target forget about drafts on everything like that? Ideally, who would you like to get around to? So, when I have drafted early in the first round comes back to you elect to ten to eleven to nine whatever. And I'm. In starting, running back, heavy heavy, which I'm certainly willing to do with the right players all to me I like to let. The early rounds like I don't like to enter draft with a specific strategy. I like I like to let the early round. My early round selections dictate what my strategy is going to be for the rest of the draft. And Aaron Jones has been my favorite target at the back end of round too early in the process may be, may June Aaron Jones was going. To turn I didn't like that I thought he was going to end up on my shy away lists, but he's not. He's now he's. He's on my targets list because I can very often get get him in the back end of row Ju. Even, if a j. I understand heavy topic, touchdown regression is probably choose not score like eighteen or nineteen touchdowns last year that he's going to be more in the nine to eleven range issue, but I'm fine with that especially at the end of round two and I think he's an excellent receiving running back I mean last year he ran some of the prettiest routes of any running back in League downfield vertical routes. And there isn't much target competition behind onto atoms in green bay. Another you like Allen Lazard Almaz art as a late round valued pick. But I was is a second year undrafted player out of Iowa state who he had. You know he's like the all Iowa state's all time leading receiver and no team still felt compelled to draft him. That's usually not a good sign for a player. He's you can be a fine role player but at the end of the day, there's very little target competition Aaron. Green Bay behind Devante Adams Aaron Jones is a player that Aaron Rodgers. Just GonNa. Trust. I. Don't know if Rogers Aj Jill after ten padded practices So No was not going to bleed lead in touch I think going to be very productive I. Liked the offensive line team is clearly committed to the run and so I might my backup plan though and it's really not my backup plan because this guy has been my highest drafted second round player in that's Julio Jones who goes in the second round I have not been in a draft. I don't think we'RE HE'S ON A. First Round yet, this year he goes in the second round virtually every single time you could absolutely bleed the NFL in targets I. Think you can get into the one eighty range this a team that lasted the falcons. Led the NFL pass attempts a target distribution at the high end of the target pecking order in Atlanta is going to more concentrated toward Julio. Jones. And Calvin really as they change out there slot no more Justin, Hartley no more Muhammad's who knew changing. Out Awesome Hooper for Hayden hearst and I think that that established report with Calvin Really Julio. Jones's is GONNA pay a lot of dividends issue. Yeah. I like Julio. More than Aaron Jones and I you know I can't face people complaining about Jamal Williams about Aj daily use the second round pick on. Aaron Jones why Jamal Williams on the Field Wise Ag Dylan on the field just got expect it flared played Dion Lewis over Derrick. Henry either not say I have a problem. With Aaron Jones as a pick there it's just you have to be prepared for in leagues where you can get in do somethings meeting get Mile Sanders Joe Mixing or Kenyan. Drake in the very beginning of round two. I. Would certainly love to do that. But if you can't do that, I've she liked to one of the receivers either tyreek Hill or Julio Jones to the NFL's most pass heavy offense to truly unique talents to guys with a ton of scheme continuity Short quarterback continuity. You know we've talked a lot about continuity off season. So yeah ideally, I would get one of those running backs early round to Sanders Mixing Drake. It seems unlikely in a lot of drafts starts to get thinner I think when the trump sharing time with cream hind with Ecuador losing check down. King Fill rivers in faster offense to go down to Tygodnik slower offense but I'm okay with those guys but I think Julio entire give me really big feeling. Then there's actually some running back. In round three I don't mind coming back with if I need to let's move to that round three Evan. This word starts to get interesting people can start going off the board people can start doing things we don't like we do like etc etc who is your preferred target in round three? So my preferred targets around degree are Allen Robinson in Amari? Cooper Mark Cuban Austin false fourth round however people do major drew over analysis I think on Amari Cooper. And then Allen Robinson people are going to be worried about the quarterback situation further. those are I think the sharpest picture, but the third round pick that I have I think at this point wound up with the most and make sense for the running back heavy troopers which looking again. I'm totally bored with going running heavy if the draft if that's how the early rounds of the draft lend themselves because I do know that there's do know there's depths at certainly at quarterback and wide receiver James Connor. This guy was on pace last year with mostly duck hodges in Mason Rudolph at quarterback through seven Games is on pace from fifteen hundred dollars almost fifteen touchdowns, sixty six catches, and then the wheels fell off and I understand that there is injury concern about James Connor. but in a year where running backs are being pumped up I, think that he has you know he legitimately had because I think he's going to be every down bat in a productive offense that returns four or five offensive line starts that is upgrade. Seventy percent of two thousand, Eighteen Ben Rothlisberger huge upgrade on Mason Rudolph in duck. Hodges. James Connor is going to be in very good position. To Smash from both receiving Anna Standpoint, hush sound scoring standpoint, and if you look at the turn around that the steelers. For many years had a lot of talent on defense. They just could not for whatever reason I think he was to matic's. Who not put it together defensively last year they put it together I think that they're going to be able to carry over that success. They have a ton of continuity defensively bring back the same EC bringing back Darrell Austin who seem like the new the straw that stirred the drank last year. and. So much has rush talent so much takeaway ability on that defense they're going to be a lot of positive game scripts. They have a pretty soft schedule especially to open the year one against the giants come on now sh- James Connor. Is Probably my favorite third? I'm running back I've taken James Connor in the third round of every single draft that I've done when he's there and yeah. So I had James Connor, my play here too since Evan took James Connor I'll give to more I'll say Mike Evans who I think is going under drafted in round three he goes like a full round maybe more later than Chris. Godwin and as much as I think that the bucks are a little bit over hyped and I think Chris Godwin's being overdrafted might still twenty seven years old this whole narrative Tomba can't throw long. So Mike Evans is dead. I don't really buy that I like Mike Evans as a pig and then idly ongoing running back particularly if I went tyreek or Julio in round two. So if I. Miss on Connor. Okay. Rolling the dice on Jonathan Taylor and this is a guy that Eboni both warm to a little bit more lately. Yes. I'm aware Marlon Mac is there I'm aware name Hines is there from a talent perspective from a scheme perspective from an offensive line perspective from a philosophy perspective from the way Philip Rivers plays I don't think draw up like a better fit than Jonathan. Taylor and yeah I understand this concerns about him in the past game based on what happened. It was constant as the year goes on I. Think Jane, Johnson Taylor's return to a huge huge workhorse almost like a near walk to be a first round fantasy pig in twenty twenty one, I mean I've just be shocked if Johnson Taylor was not a first round fantasy pig in twenty twenty. Okay. Round four, and this is where it's going to start to get wide receiver heavy for a lot of people because so many Mexican gone by this time in the draft, I do think adopt optimal. You can go back and listen to a bunch of our strategy podcasts throughout the year throughout the offseason talk when we listen to US talk about why this is right and why this is happening this let's get around four avenue or your favorite targets. The actually for the next three rounds, I'm going to have all wide receivers gone but. That's that goes you know why we don't like these running backs that are going in this area. In Todd Gurley Melvin Gordon because the wide receiver value is incredible. So for the fourth I have is my favorite target Adam stealing. A real close second Calvin Ridley. I think I actually have him back to back in the wide receiver rankings wide she nine wide receiver. Tan. Already talked about the reasons for that. I really liked Calvin Ridley. But Adam ceiling is just GONNA get filled up targets this year I think that the Vikings didn't they run first team last year but this season they had I liked the under on their win total number one. I think that they're going to be playing from behind more they had to change out their entire secondary. They Lost Stefan. Digs. WHO's at true difference maker offensively, and so I think that they are going to be more balanced games more games with their whether playing from behind. You actually go back and look at Mike Zimmer history, which I if you if you go into Vikings team preview, they have had has heavy seasons under Mike Zimmer An Atom Phelan was a guy that came out of the gates in two thousand eighteen and had what like or eleven games straight of one hundred, hundred yards consecutively tied the NFL record believe with Calvin Johnson, last year dealt with a hamstring injury has been completely healthy this year and has a chance to compete for the League lead in targets I. Think he's a safe high high. High ceiling pick this year and I've always been a believer in an talent I mean. The team preseason guy he originally coming out of believe it was Minnesota Kado is workout metric do ramic four, four, two coming out easily shit athlete great route runner win inside can win outside and just going to get filled up with targets this year from her cousins and again, really like to bet on quarterback has catcher established reports. There are very few in the NFL are more established than kirk cousins Adam feeling over the past couple of years. Yeah it's funny I had a I. I'm Adam feeling I'd second on my list cavalry in so I was like well, if Evan takes both those I'll throw one more in there at some home link things you might be able to get Juju Smith Schuster here and maybe that's a stretch maybe won't be able to get him here but just in general Juju Smith Schuster still so young this was a first round pick last year everything went to hell because of Ben Rothlisberger. Injury but he has chance for major major bounceback season and I know there's more competition in their Latman Juju is set up really really well, I'll just have one more thing on on Adam. Feeling when you remove step digs literally running BC Johnson at wide receiver to right now like man Adam feeling hundred, thirteen catches in two thousand, eighteen, that's going to be under threat this year I couldn't fathom a bigger layup than Adam Phelan in round four if you can get them there are they were differ a little bit here adding go head with who you like best in round five. I'm not sure that we will I have Terry McLaren in toddler lock it. So I feel like I've talked so much about these guys. Do you have who do well I to say that. So actually have guy that I've wanted to lately. Mark Andrews Talk About Mark Andrews. Before. and was so pissed, we took mark injuries in this livestream we did with. The underdog. User. Mark. Andrews but men I. All Mark Andrews needs is more routes and more snaps to just go completely nuclear. You remove hers more routes, more sense available. You remove the foot injury he battled all last year more routes more snaps you remove Baltimore's just absolute domination which they just can't dominate teams like they did last year Blau teams like they did last year, they're going to have to throw more more routes more snaps, mark injuries, yards per route run. One of our favorites statistics is just completely off the charts i. Would think that Kiddo and Kelsey are under threat from our NGOs this year, and if not I mean, you know you can get this guy around five hundred times maybe late round four but I mean you gotta get early round two or Mid Round to Calcio Kiddo. So I think the value is actually better on Mark Andrews here you don't have as much opportunity 'cause passing on running back said he might pass on for Kelsen kid also yeah I had decay McAfee lock it is my favorite wide receivers in round five. But I think if you want to. Grab tight ends here as marking is a great great great option Yeah. You're not talk for long about maclaurin lock it, but just a little bit on your favorite picks there. Yet I mean I think that mclorin again just so little target competition and. PF. Done a great job of pointing out how good Dwayne Haskins was actually over the final four or five games of last year and that's almost like a contrarian take even though it is based on actual onfield evidence. and. Wing Hoskins was legit good prospect coming out of college. He threw fifty touchdowns or something in his final season at Ohio state and he I mean you couldn't really draw a worse situation for him to jump into last year in what was going on with the Redskins Jay Gruden openly, like didn't want him on the team and other changing coaching staffs and who knows what their evaluation is of rain. Haskins. But I think the twin Haskins is better than public perception as sort of you know pinpointed him with or stereotype him with. and. He's got the shower narrative with Chairman Corner. Again, that plays into you know our our love for betting on quarterback established quarterback ask Catcher a reports in Tyler Lockett I mean. This is the third straight year we're going to be above market on Tyler Lockett. We crush the last two years being above market on him and. What one thing that I think it's great that rich rebar reeves on twitter as pointed out is that even though the seahawks have reduced pass attempts, which by the way I think might. Rise this year if they do let us a little bit more encouragement through three but reeves has pointed out that. His receipt that's Seattle's receivers have overachieved consistently. Versus their their target numbers because of the way that Russ plays because Russ throws the ball downfield and throws the ball into the endzone. At a higher much higher rate than almost any quarterback in the league outside like Mahomes. And so. You know like Deacon Metcalf as a rookie I. mean he wasn't anywhere near the NFL lead Tarpley he led the NFL in end zone targets to lock. It gets a lot of engine targets in Tyler Lockett crushes in that off script scrambled drill I swear they practice that they must practice that because they are so good at that. and. So even though tyler lock, it's target projection might only be one ten and they're going to be guys in the NFL that get one sixty in one fifty. Tyler. Lockett can out produce some of those guys because of the way that Ross flays. In so that that's one that I want. Yeah, and I love decay metcalf also in for more on that on the last podcast, we talked about chances of leading Ross Cook Warren wide think the target concentration between McAfee lock it is so strong foods around six. People in following the podcast people in following US know that you could have previously gone will fuller around eight now will fuller? I. Think you probably have to spend a sixth round pick for him. That's who I had here. Evan did you have anybody else besides we'll and have you seen what for any later around six lately? Now now he's not going any later around six so. That's where he's at and I still am smashing the button on him because I think that without the health concern. He would be a tooth return pick. And So now we have the health concern baked in which lower ses ADP by what you know four or five rounds, and we just pounce on that, and again we're coming back to the established quarterback to pass catcher rapport. Randall. COBB is new brandin cooks Kenny stills, the fourth receiver, Shawn Watson never been checked down running. Down to running back, SORTA guy. Darren fouls in Jordan aching. Target. Commanders at tight end Shawn Watson looks to throw the ball downfield. Another guy who loves until the ball vertically in the end zone and will fuller is absolutely a guy that he's taking the place of Allen. Robinson. Last year we had Allen Robinson Twenty. Twenty eighteen. Twenty seventeen missed the entire Euro Jaguars was banged up quite a bit in two thousand, eighteen we were like our Robinson is going to be a number one by across formats at established the run last year. You finished third in the NFL and targets caught over ninety passes was. A despite bad quarterback play and we'll fuller actually has good quarterback play all we need any again you don't get Zeros. When your guy only played thirteen games you don't get Zeros in the other three weeks. You can start other guys and fantasy football is not a game. About. Risk Aversion. It's not a game about who can put the most skies with. That have played sixteen games in their career on the same team fantasy football is about. Putting together like winning weeks number one and how do you win weeks is you have spikes to make up for other guys in your starting lineup, not performing in that particular week, which is inevitable. but Willfuller is one of those guys who can have those massive spike weeks that can make up for you know a bad game from rb two or a bad game from you're you're the guy that you drafted to be your wife she to your drafting real fuller at also wide receiver three slash Flex Yep shutout Blair Evans daughter saying hello to the podcast. Okay I've said, we'll fuller the only diamond mentioned here in round six kind of warmed a little bit more to lately. de'andre. Swift and I, understand that he's probably not going to get more than I don't know six, seven, eight nine carries per game out of the gate but I think you can see an Alvin. Kamara s kind of role for Andrea Swift right away where he gets four to six targets in the past when you combined four to six times in. The, past game with six carries around six for a guy who's just really good athlete really good pass catcher has really good quarterback think gender swift makes sense in round six. If you need running back, he also fits with some of these rb anger builds where you take running back in round one you don't take another one until round six with the Andrea swift and you start taking more running backs later I think dandruff swift fits they're really really well, let's not. To mention in good six and this was actually my backup player round searches. Michael Ballack. I go back and forth on. Michael Gallup will flora think Michael Alpha safer. I think the Willfuller has more upside, but I Michael Gallup has a lot of upside is well in last year finished sixth in the NFL receiving yards per game. If you any missed two games. So if you just go back to his his to. Rookie. Year Games in the playoffs and you're just looking last sixteen games. You'd have a almost seventy five catches most thirteen hundred yards, seven touchdowns. He would have been the wide receiver seven overall in PTR leagues. Last year, we know that Matt Harmon loves him. And he's playing in one of the best passing offense in the. NFL and he is one of the most undervalued players in all fantasy. This year is eighty P is why she thirty one we haven't wide receiver twenty five. I, look at him every day I'm like I. Hope I. Wish I could move them up and it's like EJ Shark Color dudes that I love that you know that I'd have to move them above and but he's in a sweet spot for sure in the six round. Great picking such. Evan. Led his sleepers and undervalued column with Michael Gallup as the cover boy go to the site to check out the rest of sleeper in undervalued guys actually think some home league settings you might be able to get Michael Gallup in round seven people aren't that excited about Michael Galvin more casual settings and if you can get Gal around seven Evans GonNa hate me for this but I think Michael Galvin around seven is a better pick than Amari cooper in three. I mean. I. Wouldn't disagree with that. There we go. I'm that's that's a one for one thing I think that both guys are are under valley. I think intact because I think that people are overthinking the offense or like. Oh COME CD lamb. You. Know. Are. These guys are GonNa get the same number of targets. I would almost throw out the number of targets that they're actually going to get because they're just going to be pulling out Randall Cobb at eighty-three targets slash Jason Witten at eighty three targets. Last year upping the usage for Blake Darwin they signed to a contract extension, the added CD lamb it's better for the offense as a whole. These guys are just going to score a lot of touchdowns yet at the end of the day I, know that touchdowns are not something that we necessarily can accurately forecast in bed on. But if we have a lot of confidence in the offense which I do and I love their schedule too I loved ack. It's actually end up. I would worry less about CD lamb polling targets away from Amari Cooper Michael Gallup and be more concerned with the fact that offense is becoming more explosive. And they're gonNA score a ton of points while there could be off the charts. Okay. Let's get to round seven I. Know we're going to be different here because I know you really like the guy that I'm gonNA say so go ahead with your favorite pig around seven. We you know who I'm GonNa say no, I know you're not gonNA say though okay. Yeah. Well I have actually deck press got here. And also wide names you guys James White, who I think has a chance to dominate snaps in the Patriots offense and I know that he's been billed as a player that doesn't have have upside, which is false. All you have to do is look back to two thousand, eighteen season. And he had a eighty seven catches and scored twelve touchdowns. And he is the player that is most similar to Christian McCaffrey in the Patriots offense he's Sixty percent of Christian McCaffrey but. He's the most. That's most similar in Christian McCaffrey had his breakout in the two thousand, eighteen season. With. Cam Newton and I think that the Patriots would make a lot of sense for the Patriots to play that style of offense this year. In you know Sony Michelle guess is is back sort of deeming Harris is so incredibly unproven although we are higher than market him I think James White could just end up dominating snaps on on a pretty good team. and. That could be in the seventh round is my rb three I think next a lot of sense. Okay. My round seven is going to be JK Dobbins in I actually think that right now and I'm not marched tape guy but people, I respect that Jacob dominance, a better pure runner Mark Ingram right now and so to invest that much draft capital in him, and then not use him ahead of like people are like August Edwards play Justice Hill is. Not GonNa play like stop it and then. So if it's only Jay cavers Mark Ingram mugs on the wrong side of thirty, and so I think jake as better pure runner right now anyways to get him in round seven offense which we expect to be among the League leader in rushing touchdowns, not just because the Lamar just because there's so many touchdowns. anyways really like Jay. Dobbins again, part of the what I talked about with Andrea Swift where rb anchor in round one maybe another one in round three maybe not and then you guys load up on wide receivers and you get swift's in the Dobbins. Maybe you Evan James White or something like that and I really like that kind of bill. Was Good around eight Evan who is your favorite guy going round round round eight. Thousand Eight I have Dante, Johnson And Zach. Moss now deontay Johnson. and. This has not been talked about often. Talked about much so far. Entering the season but Dante Johnson has missed a number of days with. A calf injury and this is. GonNa be a really difficult year leading up to week one with all the soft tissue injuries, Brandon are you can? It's going to be difficult side we we don't know what the deal is Johnson in this in the steelers have no impetus to reveal to us what the deal is. But. I'm assuming that he's going to be fine entering the year maybe naively but I love what Johnson did last season with Mason Rudolph and duck cottages. She was a top five receiver among all rookies I, love his return background. We've talked a lot about on this show about how receivers that were dominant return men in college is showing inability to dominate with the ball on their hands are at an elevated Elevated probability of hitting in the NFL I, think Johnson Johnson is a hit. and. You know he's I. Think he's right there with these you know he's going to be the primary perimeter receiver in Pittsford which use Smith Schuster in the slot and then James Washington and Chase Klay Pool competing for that. Third. Receiver. Job. Just a big a big believer in deontay Johnson's ability. And at this cost I think he's a guy that. There's your kid deontay Johnson is a guy that especially if Juju Smith Schuster moves on Next offseason they're all coming in. It's a family affair. What's up dudes? deontay Johnston has a chance to be like a third round pick in fantasy next year if Juju Smith Schuster leaves, and so it's the sort of the same concept that you have with Jonathan Taylor trying to get ahead of the curve with the onset Johnson Eighth Round pick this year third round pick next year. Evans professional there I have a five year old and a two year old. It's like a full blown daycare over here. Okay I love was on my list around eight. My other guy that I had as backup around was Christian Kirk and obviously everybody knows what I think of the King of Dust Larry. Fitzgerald everybody knows. That Evan and I don't agree as much with Evan by do think De'andre Hopkins there's a lot of risk with him I would not take him at his current ADP soldiers big beneficiary beheading Christian Kirksey in sending player who I thought played pretty well in kind of a difficult circumstance last year. So if you miss on Deontay Johnson, I'm perfectly fine with Christian Kirk in round eight. Let's go to round nine actually might be able to get Zach. Nelson round now you mentioned Zach Nelson Round eight I think in a lot of casualties you might be able to Zach malls around nine. We've spent so much time on Moss I don't feel like talking about him anymore even on the last podcast we talked about him. So head on your guy around nine at. Around Nine Chase edmunds. and. I tend to believe what Kenyan drake has been saying about his own walking boot. That it's not a big injury but I like chase edmunds, even you know long before we move Jason Evans in the top one hundred a week before this thing happened with Kenyan drake in the walking. Because there were indications coming from the coaching staff that Cliff kings wanted to involve. Mike Starter in the offense and that he's going to have a shot at. standalone value. And then if you look at if you zoom out and locate the team. The Arizona Cardinals were unbelievable. Rushing last year top ten, the NFL in rushing yards. No one would have expected that entering last season. They didn't even have a very good offensive line offensive lines got a little bit better this year number two in rushing offense delay which we mentioned often often. I think chase edmunds. Is Good and Kenyan drake is shirt up unproven four years at Alabama never had more than nine to carries as never averaged more than fifteen point, seven touches per game NFL season, and this is an offense that is gone to probably trend toward thirty touches per game from its Backfield, which if Kelly Drake, just to reach the peak of his to date career outcomes now he would get sixteen of that would leave fourteen. Let's say a collar Murray takes five or six of those in that leaves you know eight or nine for you know another player named edits. So. Just a lot of arrows pointing in the direction of Edmonds he's a guy that very willing to take above his eighty I want chase. On is many rosters possibly can. For more on nothing the last podcast to we talked about him, my guy in round nine was Jalen. Rieger if it's not Zach Mawson Jalen regard the eagles have no choice but to play. Jalen who allegedly been lighting up. Eagles Camp I. Think Carson Wentz. deeks off the street threw for four thousand yards. And so would jalen reader in their with JR website still extremely unproven without Sean. Jeffrey likely. Open the you're on pop with Sean Jackson on the opposite side of the field drawing attention making everybody better at on Jackson's throughout his career join Rieger Rookie wide receivers are certainly scary in round nine. It's a little bit early but man I think it's a new kind of desperation for the wide receiver position serving Jerry Rigor more than fine in. Round nine. If you miss on someone like Zach, Moss are around ten evan go ahead. You got here by Jalen Rieger here. Okay. But it will move onto my backup and that is Jamison crowder who whenever you post on twitter the Jamison crowder is going to see one hundred and fifty targets this year which she'll eat one, hundred, twenty, two last year, and the situation is even much better for him this year than it was last year. You will get responses like. One hundred and fifty targets for ninety seven catches in seven, hundred and forty in two touchdowns ll. Condoms. Right answer condoms and look. That's a lie in PBR. At even for the LL crowd in in the three condom crowd and look again I talked about him in the sleepers undervalued are article in I was like you know this may feel like a condom pick but and it does, but it's also a smart pick especially where he's going I mean we're not talking about a fifth six round player. We're talking about at nine, eight, nine, ten, th round player with a chance at a hundred and forty, one, hundred and fifty targets. And I mean you read the jets factors reports he's getting just shove you look at the history of Sam. darnold. He targeted the heck out of Juju early in his career at USC. Burnett. who was a slot receiver at USC. He was Know he was the number one for Sam Darnold late in his college career you look at the history of Adam Gates going back to wes welker in Denver Jarvis Landry in Miami has filled up. The slot receiver with a lot of volume, and then of course, last year James Grout are getting a hundred and twenty two targets as a changing teams receiver. Yeah there's a lot of data points I think working and Jamison crowder. Favourite note he's GonNa probably not gonNA average eleven yards per reception. He's probably not going to score more than six or seven touchdowns although he does have a big touchdown year. In his he had a big touchdown Washington is like eight or ten or something like that and. So I mean, he's at least got one of those on his track record, but he's he's going to get the ball a lot this year. Yeah too many economists for me on Jamison crowder I'll go with a guy zero condom henry rogues henry rugs playing Z. and slot kind of the way they use tyreek hill. conaway Sean Jackson's been used in his career Henriksen outrageous athlete who they invested a ton of draft capital and made him the first wide receiver off the board in the draft I. Think he steps right in and has a huge huge role for this raiders team I don't like how much target competition he's going to have their from waller from tyrel or Brian Edwards from Chard, etc. But from Hunter Renfro. But yeah, I think Henry Rugs is going to be a very, very good player to get him in round ten I think is exciting I also had. Damian Harris here in round ten. But we're monitoring this Sony, Michelle Story and I tweeted about it today Sunni Michelle surprisingly returns to practice. Evan mentioned some what's going on New England's bathroom you talked about James White but stay tuned far take on thin hair because we're still trying to uncover information on exactly what's up with Sony Michelle are we going to go through sixteen rounds here but for the rest of these spoke before the podcast and kind agreed on some guys that were just going to mention here, we take off a little bit faster round eleven evidence. Where I typically find myself taking quarterbacks and it's typically either Matthew Stafford. Carson Wentz or Matt Ryan Yeah I'd love to have deck I would love to have to. Shawn Watson. The opportunity cost at those guys is typically not what I want when I'm wasting quarterback picks when I should be taking running backs wide receivers for more on that go to the four mini strategy pods did with the only but I'm more than fine waiting till round eleven and kind of keeping an eye on who needs a quarterback and being able to go Ryan wins in Stafford I. Don't get the rushing equity and that sucks because that's obviously huge in fantasy but I got three very, very good. I think consisting quarterback staffer was on pace to be fantasies qb to last year at the time of injury. Matt Ryan is a threat to lead the entire NFL in pass attempts and Carson Wentz as I mentioned over four thousand yards geeks off the street I think he had some upgrade their at least Sean Jackson could sustain health if gently rigor is as good as I thought. So Ran Eleven Evan, have you been find yourself at quarterback hero up? A little bit definitely a little bit Not Ryan is a three hundred yard machine. As you know, playing a Lotta draftkings where you know the bonus for that Carson Wentz also can be that I think. He's got more rushing equity than does a Matt Ryan in Matthew Stafford in this of scenes here I don't have Stafford in I have Ryan and Wentz in their own tier. Because there's a little bit more injury risks were Stafford. You know we were going off early in eight games sample with Stafford under Darrell Bev which we love what we saw but again, it's still eight game sample. So. That's why I don't have him in that exact same cheer with Matt Ryan Carson Wentz. But we are above market on sink. All three of these guys a little bit below market on Matt Ryan Not that we don't like him. It's just I have Josh how at quarterback six and some people are Josh on. Deniers. Carson. wentz were definitely above eighty beyond matthew. Stafford were of A. Yeah I also think that in some casualties if you can get chase edmunds in round eleven like I'm not sure you have to go as high as Evans said, but you need to know your opponents for that for sure art around twelve a lot of times in round twelve. If I haven't taken a tight end yet I kinda look at that big here we've talked about that big tier that Evan has I think it's Tier five of your tight end Evan I usually end up picking my favorite guy from their often it's might just sticky or it's Tj Hodkinson and so might just sticky I think pressure Williams is fine I think Preston was gonna play but still might just going to be used as a big slot and I really like him with Ryan Fitzpatrick I. Don't like him as much to, and we'll see how long it takes the. In there but I, do like just thinking and then obvious breakout candidate talked about last podcast. TJ. Hopkinson. Just ultra talent who has been destroying lions practices all camp. We often seen these year to leaves for tight ends and I know that guys like Phantom heard in play well as rookies but in more common is what happened to j Hopkinson last year was just kind of a mess and then you break out in year two. So yeah, this is kind of where I'm looking for tight end if I didn't get marquette injuries if I didn't get kid if I didn't get Kelsey get urged unlikely waiting until this tier here of just sticky into J. Hopkinson. Degrees that these are his favorites in that tier that he has. Now it's but it is a good rain start targeting the onesie positions of the quarterback in a tight end positions. I have Chris Herndon ranked above sickie an Hodkinson. That doesn't necessarily mean that you have to draft him that way though it's you know we're we're serious fantasy players when you're subscribing to savage the run when you're listening to these podcasts I don't think you're joking around like this isn't the first podcast you've listened to properly right now you're probably more serious fantasy player in your Haag Nelson of ADP. You probably have a couple of drafts under your belt you you're familiar with dies where guys typically go and you can take your second year as your tentative tied in one, and then you can wait. Around her to get Chris Herndon as your technical tied into, but he might end up being your tight end. And that's why we like targeting fifth year of tight ends with multiple picks. When we miss out on George Kid Travis Kelsey Zach Ertz Martinez Yep and I would throw no fans into that makes to although I think he might get no fans or concerned in maybe in round thirteen against certain opponents, the guys that I. Wanted to mention in round thirteen were Curtis Samuel and De'andre Washington I on John. Washington you know we expect him to became the city's backup. It's not confirmed but I think that there's a pretty good chance that he will. He's competing with Daryl Williams, and there's been some rumors their Williams might be ahead. We're GONNA look into that and we'll get an answer hopefully before we one on that but still John Jay Washington shower native with. Patients homes caught so many balls and Patrick, mahomes. At Texas Tech in the Curtis Samuel. You know I thought Evan made really sharp points. You know month to ago about how courtesy was used last year and will be used in his new regime. Robbie Anderson will be the one running those clear out routes that Curtis Samuel Pow the air yards in last year and had no production a better roundtree for fantasy production the clear out his hopefully. Courtesy, in this year underneath creatively get him the ball in space. So Curtis Samuel, you know Jack talked about getting Curtis Samuel for a dollar in auctions I think against them. Unsophisticated opponents around twelve round thirteen is very good. Spot four Curtis Samuel any thoughts on those guys or anyone else in round thirteen seven. I think you said it beautifully and I think that. The regarding this sort of controversy about who might be the number two back in Tennessee I don't think there's necessarily a clear cut number two back I think that. Gerald Williams role players, sort of like a spencer where type of back. And if Clyde Edwards hilarious Miss Time. In there would be a likely committee and De'andre. Is the best all purpose back left standing. So although Daryl Williams might you sort of get like ten to twelve early down Carey's in that scenario Andre Washington might end up playing most snaps getting the most targets in the. Most valuable fantasy contributor were used to go down. Yep Okay Round Fourteen, and this guy you know packer in terms me onto I'm looking at a lot more around fourteen. A lot of times I'm taking viscous Chenault and I thought maybe he would come to League as a gadget guy maybe he's still will but they need weapons behind Dj charge in Louisiana should invest invested a lot of draft capital. Into can do a lot of things I was pressing. Williams is in play in round fourteen if you can get him here and I think Allen Lazard is in play in round fourteen and you know I've seen allies are go round eleven round twelve times, and maybe that is too high to gives you can get Amazon around thirteen fourteen around here with Chenault. Williams have Daniel Jones as maybe a target around fourteen leaves we can hold them while his schedule is really bad with a deeper bench Any comments on those guys evidently picked out kind of around fourteen range. Viscous, all is a guy that I'm going to be the next time. It gets to do a chance to do a ranking shed I'm doing like. The most consecutive positive cast in fantasy football history right now right now. But the next time it gets to rankings change, which hopefully will be after this show Chenault is moving up into the top one, fifty number one, Dede Westbrook is coming out. He's hurt with a shot we don't know his timetable for return. The reports on Levinsky should have been I would say over with thumbing Lee positive I am totally with you that I had some skepticism on the discussion all as being. Like a Cordeiro Patterson. Where a team might struggle to fit him into their offense but Jaguars don't have very many offensive playmakers outside of EJ Shark in. Leonard for net. So we cushion all can be that that guy that third playmaker and there have been S- There's been some talk about the discussion opening season as the Jaguars slot receiver, which is. Sexy man I mean that's if if we can get you know a couple of wildcat carries out of him which he did a lot of Colorado. And we could get you know four to six targets from him. You will smash is ADP. Definitely belongs realism probably a little late on this but WE'RE GONNA. Make sure that we put him in a position because ninety percent of drafts not even occurred yet. But we're going to put him in a position where if you're using our rankings using our tears and you're using our projections. This cushion all is going to be a guy that's absolutely on your radar in the late routes Yep. Okay. We'll run through around fifteen and sixteen real quick here I want to be clear with all these guys you know if you're in a standard size league ground fourteen, Fifteen, sixteen roster turn at the bottom is going to be aggressive in weeks one-two-three like we're GONNA learn so much about these players in their usage and. So a lot of guys we want to take upside shots on because if we have to drop him, well, it's no big deal. We want to tax the waiver wire early anyways but anyways around fifteen and sixteen hundred zero of names that we talked about before the show Evan Perez Campbell Ian Thomas Joe, borough, Teddy Bridgewater, and these are obviously deeper. Me's where he might WANNA draft to quarterbacks or or whatever I would be. A in a deeper league I guess with borough or Teddy, but probably not I'd probably want to stick in that whence Ryan Stafford typed here but yet Paris Campbell I've been taking a lot late as a fire in Thomas you know if you miss on that fant heard Hopkinson type Ian. Thomas is fine and Joe Boroughs. Another quarterback quite think can be fine but again, I expected churn the bottom the roster here amount fifteen and sixteen. I. Know You've been on Paris Kimball for a lot of the offseason any comments on him or anybody else? Now just say that reading colts be reports from practice that Paris. Campbell. Seems locked into the number to receive a role. In Indianapolis Behind T Y? Hilton. when Like they've been rotating between Michael Pittman Zach Pascal as the number three in Michael. Pittman apparently hasn't been shown out big time yet not that these. He's necessarily a guy. Who's you know he's not like a small speedy guys really gonNA pop. Up off the field to beat writers watching practice. But Zach scout performed really well, last year I don't think it should be surprising exact pascal open the year ahead of Michael Pittman that's for the competition lies though it doesn't seem that the competition lies with Peres Campbell who seems to be locked already into that number to receive a role in really sort of fits the bill of. A player that Philip rivers could fall in love with really dynamic over the middle's playing the slot a lot Way Faster than Keenan Allen. But you know a guy that is going to be a high percentage target. The the colts are not gonNA. Have a ton of pass attempts. This year are going to be I think the top five teams terms rushing? It's of Paris Campbell is absolutely a game-breaker and that was his game I remember watching him owning out of Ohio state in. The first thing I watched it was like his top is twenty most explosive plays from his final season last, they were all drag routes and Just. All kinds all all stuff that occurred within five yards of the line of scrimmage. In And I think that's how the the colts. If you watch that that the draft. The Youtube show on the colts your they drafted. Paris Campbell. Twenty. Nineteen Frank Reich when they got him, Frank Reich was like jumping cherry actually to take the head to second round picks that year the other second round pick that the US earlier. Chris Ballard wanted. To say was Ben Bonna agoo out of Tcu like a linebacker like an edge and then and I think Frank Right? You could see frank rockies shouldn't tear disappointed and then they had another second round pick later in and around and they got Paris Campbell and Frank Reich like jumped out of Shirley. Yes. High five everybody in the room and this is the repairs Kimball at horrible injury luck last year. But legit really good prospect on I. Think he's locked into a starting role. Yeah. I know a lot of people like banged on Paris came for only running one route at Ohio state. Maybe he could have done where they just didn't ask him to you know what I mean like I wouldn't penalize the guy just saying that I wouldn't say you can't do it just because he wasn't asked to do it. Oh, and that happens all the time to yet. With Ohio state receivers because they used Very specific roles, apnea Terry maclaurin win the third wrapped. It happened even Michael, Thomas, you went in the second round. Know these guys obviously deserve be drafted much higher in were I? That's because they win the scouts can't look on tape and be like Oh. We can see him running a vast array of rows used them in specific roles. One time gains have stay in were great players in those roles Yup for sure. Okay. We've said it all hope you guys enjoyed this round by round target podcast. Again, if you have a draft coming up, I don't think there's any way we would be able to help you dominate your competition. It's just thirty five dollars is our draft. It comes with a twenty dollar coupon also to use any F F. P. C. League. Again if you have a draft coming up ahead to establish run DOT COM, pick up the draft Kate we've been working on it for five months and we are continuously updating it to stay up to date with all the news that we are finding coming out of training camp. So. For Evan for producer Luke, I am Adam Good luck in your draft if you have one this weekend.

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NFL/NBA What Ifs & Monday Mailbag

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NFL/NBA What Ifs & Monday Mailbag

"What's going on real sports fan? Welcome to the Carmelo Anthony Episode fifteen of the real underscore sports podcasts on this episode. We are talking a fantasy draft N._B._A. and N._F._l.. What ifs and the Monday mailbag so let's get it football offers football the Jenkins what's going on real sports fan? I'm your host Jack Settlement from your underscore sports on snapchat a one million page on snap follow me if you haven't and with me tonight is my longtime longtime best friend and Co host Abe GRANDF- Abe you got the number one pedro sat in a little but I just saw this like right before we hit record and I just had to bring it up right away. You've been on record talking about how Lebron is falling off and everything but then on unreal sports snapchat but like an forty two minutes ago I off but anyway anyway we see not was m._v._p.. Year he averaged twenty seven eight and seven and now that his name's getting slandered and people are saying he's still not the best in the world yeah you average more in all categories twenty seven four eight five eight three. What do you think about that? My only take on him was that I think his body is starting to break down with files in a row no. I just think that that's been my opinion on him. <hes> I think the Lakers are GonNa win it all. That's my pick right now and I think that he they're they're just GonNa he's finally as a full offseason and get low management of that. He should be healthy. I'm more worried today. In terms of getting I wish people could read our text back and forth the amount that you trash talk on the Lakers and Lebron in in our individual tax but then come on here and you play well last year. They were joke okay last year. There were drove they they were within a game and a half out of the first seat of the four seed. When the bomb went down and then it's teleport the trade trade deadline the chemistry was out Lonzo was out brand Ingram's out everyone was hurt the entire year and even when Lebron came back for eighteen games and they were still in the hunt Lonzo was still out? Everyone who knows no indication of what the Lakers were. They were joked. I'm not saying like overall their land. Stevenson was a joke the whole block hordes of just talking about the basketball like Aaron against that's higher here Brian had bad things happen on the court yeah so essentially Lebron came back they can beat the suns because they're missing Lonzo Ball. Tell us about the number one pick and about an hour ago now my home friend group from high school bunch of us. We picked our fantasy picks for the air. Just went live on instagram good old-fashioned pick out of a hat start from ten work your way down to one landed number one and I I needed this me me and my buddy David you you know we we've been together in this league for a few years now. We need a big season as I'm saying it's it's been you're like the WHO's like a team that puts up numbers. We're actually we just. We've had some misfortune the past have you won this. We know we've we've been pretty crappy in this league so you are like Philip. Rivers are just you can't win it would just we can't win games either in this league. We don't win that much but we're doing and <hes> so full V._R.. League <hes> Ten teams and teams man. I might just I might have teams in the N._F._C.. This year. I mean I'm going. We'll SAQUON. It's a lot I know I was face timing David earlier and he tried saying Kamara but Kamara one. That's aggressive saying I love your agenda saying to the he's The craziest guy and I get it because Ingram's gone now but he's just to me he similar to like Amari Cooper feels like a lot of his points. Come in certain earn weeks Amari Cooper he was like one of the top fantasy wideouts last year but if you took out his top three games which are only count for three weeks obviously he averaged like six fantasy points a game and I personally if I'm going number on big. I need that fifteen to twenty more than fifteen to twenty a week in full point in P._B._R.. Everything that's happened but his league receiving room Corey Coleman A._C._l.. Sewing shepherd will be back but spring to some just giants lock and then Golden Tate going. I think that that his appeal might win yeah. His message seemed tar and it's only like the right people that he knew what was going on like he stayed it ahead of the wall but yes ACORNS GONNA get three hundred plus touches this year alive literally can't throw the ball down the field so we've just dumped it off to him every time they're going to take five years off his career in this one season this year yeah they might ruin career which is going to be a binding. I'm not that but like just to emphasize the amount that he's going to get the ball this year. It's a no-brainer yeah. I the only counter for me would be I wouldn't go zeke definitely wouldn't go girly LE`veon's interesting but to to <hes> risky at one I would consider McCaffrey the top four top consensus number. One amongst like big draft boards is saquon easily one and then two three four was Zeke Camara and McCaffrey just like take your back but like now I would go McCaffrey for sure so we're seeing Zeke holding out which I think he'll get a deal done and he'll be back like the cowboys are known to strike the <unk> training camp and and with deals that make no sense like China running back twenty five minutes but yeah so. I think he'll be back but all Michael Thomas be back using he gets a deal done because say that he yes Michael Thomas. Eh It's interesting is holding out with Kamara draft stock like say he does hold out Puzzle Avian and I think a lot of players start doing is lately on I disagree. I think Levian is going to be the only one Levian didn't even make out well from his deal. We'll do what do you mean. How much do you have fifty guaranteed yeah but if he had just played the year he would've ended up practically with the same amount like it wasn't it was more of like a you think it was just a publicity stunt is what you're saying? No I just think he he thought he was getting a much better deal. He obviously got the money he just thought he was probably getting like two three four million a year. Yeah it definitely saved his body. I don't know I think we'll see I don't think Michael Thomas will do that but like if tossing Kamara Juliette the ball that amount then. Maybe you have a debate but we'll thomas just you you have like the reason that running backs might sit out before like a wide out is because teams are reluctant to pay running next because of what we talked about all the time which is you don't need to overpay for running wideouts especially top tier like Thomas in passing legally. The saints are giving him as a matter of like you said it's all about positions like Ozzy. quarterback deserves the most like the position you plays the money you're GONNA make in this league so we're going to do our fantasy pod in the next coming weeks but I wanted to throw something out there now that we're talking wideouts. We've agreed. It's kind of it's D- Hop Obi Jay <hes> Julio An A._B.. A. B. is like the top four in the N._F._l.. Not necessarily from the STYRO- who I recall really my no. I don't think so maybe not not not in terms of talent. I mean that's the only a drop of Michael. Thomas is actually getting close to that but now he's not in that town is not not yet not yet. Your Monte Adams isn't that to UH stop non terms of talent and like just abilities in terms of production recently sure but they need to prove it like devante has the Rogers Handicap and Michael. Thomas has not only breathed but he only did it for a true one year so always on him. I WanNa Lynch Yeah Joy. You will never mind going with this. I think do is going to be a top three fantasy wide out this year. My logic is she almost beat out a B. Last year and there's fifteen touchdowns missing from the steelers offense with A._B._C.'s departure and I'm not saying fifteen or go into Juju but even with the distribution if he gets four for five more he would be a top three and I think he's going to be the focal point of the offense and be atop three fantasy white out. I I really I don't hate it. I mean I'm kind of afraid to draft Juju in a fantasy. Just I don't know like you said <hes> rusher. Thomas kind only did it for a year. Juju kind only did it for a year conner only did it for a year like I duNNo. I you need to prove to me for longer so I probably stay clear of Juju and fancy mass aspect but like you're right that's one hundred and fifty targets that have to go somewhere right but the thing is they also bring in Moncrieff Amin. I don't even know not to Moncrieff and like big. Ben has been known his entire career Dole like rely on that second receiver a lot like he did with Antwan randle Al he kind of did it with Juju last year ill homes. There's been a whole list. He's like he loves that second guy. He also loves the first they just throw so much. I don't think James Connors going to be as good as he was. Last year he kind of had a little not a rookie wall at the end but you could see some production production dropped. The one thing that would worry me about Juju is like you get the benefit of single coverage and that is a huge jump Michael. Thomas is Ben Getting Eh double coverage and showed he could do it last year south <hes> that is fancy preview coming in the next couple of weeks but now we're gonNA play a little fun game called what if do we WanNa Start N._B._A.. Or N._F._l.. N._F._l.. Let's let's continue on with N._F._l.. Do you have one you wanNA throw out there. I one let's go. What if the seahawks ran the ball? What if the seahawks ran the ball they probably win the super bowl take hot? I think everyone's in agreement there. I personally am totally with the play. Call are you one of those who are like why didn't they run the ball and it's twenty twenty so all right so you're you're cool with the play called them throwing it. Yes and you're cool with James Franklin running on fourth and five yes <hes> when you're when you're having a heisman like game at home against Ohio state the the seahawks throwing to me makes obviously way more sense than what than the Franklin call but you've been on the record that both you love both calls well. The seahawks one is actually almost a no brainer so they have twenty six seconds left and a time out from the two so you're trying to you're trying to maximize the ability to score. which is you want the replace so if you run on first down and get stopped you have to burn that time <unk> out and if like a sack happens or you can't really do anything else in that situation you're such a warrior do just run the ball no but but you're just opening up options and Russell Wilson had never in his career until that throw turn the ball over in the red zone so it's pretty unlucky in that sense? That was the one play so you throw maybe go incomplete there. Then you have third down you run the ball he gets up you call time out and you have one play left for your season so I just think it's such a twenty twenty thing like the the one team that I would say should have ran the ball was when the Ravens had that Golan saying it's the niners capper nick and Gore were running all over us the second half and they didn't run it from. I'm like the four yard line if they ran out. I have no doubt they win. The super bowl the next what if that we can kind of lead into is like what if the Patriots did get all the lucky bounces or never get any of the lucky bounces so just a quick list tuck cruel they I mean that could have changed Brady's career literally forever right it changes N._F._l.. But maybe it changes Brady's career. <hes> you have Lee Evans wraps touchdown kind of misses a field goal so they win Latte Super Bowl. You have then on the flip. You have the tyree catch and then you have <hes> I guess isn't so mcnabb throwing up on the field with the broken. Johnny broke his arm but what's right even though he bought you have that what if Matt Ryan can sustain a twenty eight to three I mean they. Yeah what if they ran the second half what if Mario Manningham doesn't make that crazy catch on the sideline in the for the giants other Super Bowl and what if nick foles under five hundred yards patriots argue literally took nick foles and average quarterback the <unk> super bowl of all time to debrief. We're GONNA get into what if what what if the rams could have scored three points in the worst. We'll have like they could have been. How many super bowls is that nine? He prayed in its knicks way six three the reverse Lebron Bron as I like to call it. Do you have any comments on the what like are you a believer in luck because I'm not a believer in luck but these situations just seem to be and what if spy gate like they'd suspended them properly deflate gate the case. It's easy what it I don't know what operation they're running over there but it's like a Russian government knew can't see what's going on inside but <HES> I dunno belch. I'm on I think that Brady it is a product of ballot. Check mostly in that. No that's tough for me now. Why do you say that I think reason bill ballot? Check the biggest football genius ever and that you see so many players coming in around. He just makes it work in their system the system that they've established. It's just would do again. I don't mind that I I've had this to be pleasing dip in duct drive hot <hes> rig it is that all because of Bella track or does it happen to fit in out and read these child coaching implemented their stuff he puts in the water and also the little minions he has a around the N._F._l.. To Cheat Forum and then he I just had brady at his helmet. He's the capital but but belching wasn't n._F._l.. Coach before Brady and did not have any success on point but it just I know that's why I I would say they both are on the show but it's dry spell checks the sixty forty thing at so tough. I don't know I think somehow because of the Internet like Brady's accomplishments Bushman had just become discounted like he owned peyton manning who was supposed to be the greatest quarterback like ever he essentially ruined his career in terms of greatness and he's won as many super bowls as another franchise. He's tied for the lead himself like it's just hard to imagine that one system that coach puts in could make some guy the greatest quarterback I mean this topic. They get so lucky I mean we should be too inelegant some just like the giant. Here's another what if what if the refs don't call that Miles Jack Strip and score like in the A._F._C. Championship. That's another meanwhile they're not they all said any one picture on the Internet and I don't know if this kid is a part of the real sports fan but let me get this off my chest. The kid that you see at the Boston parades it's like I've been to nine champion nine parades in eleven years or something. I hate that kid I in the the worst what's going to happen. I wonder if he is real sports fan if he is D._A._M.. Make because I want to have a conversation with you what if craziest one was if the Bruins have won they would have won Louis Stanley Red Hatreds Super Bowl. They would've been Celtic short. That's a good that's a good transition to what if of the N._B._A.. What if I like this one a lot? What if Ben Simmons has a jump shot? It's literally as we as we know them like I mean what is what is who who is the bigger what if Jaanus with jump shot or Ben with a jump shot like what scarier honest no question on my mind a bias out of it. You're right you're right. I don't want to say too much stuff. There's there's not even a conversation. Jaanus is better right now. They both don't have a jump shot to what I now. I just my bias almost got away from me. What if the Pistons Take Mellon said of dark military rich so they have that super team and then you add mellow who scored actually like he would be the perfect bench player comes off scores twelve fourteen a game and then grows within that Gritty Detroit team plan on a rookie deal for a few years? How many four Detroit team is like one of my favorite team's all time they both the Wallace's who were just like bad asses? Larry Brown was sick coach. He took the sixers to the finals with a brutal Ross or an iverson like they didn't have one like superstar player like like they just all fit Solo Sean Prince Richard Hamilton and if they would have brought in mellow after they won in Oh four or when they wanNA know four and he was that was that would ms rookie year right or oh three you'd never he he would tape hi Sean Prints. I think we would still be the melt like Mela was that hyped up like whatever his situation was. He was going to be a stud and if they could have thrown on a bench at the rookie year and just let him learn that team would have been and N._F._l.. <UNK> billups they had just like mentors glassy prime in their career veterans and just that team which I used to knock the sixers around all the time and Mike are post finals days when we really weren't that good. We're like a perennial like <unk> aid them your pretender cutie I wouldn't even we're like the <hes> like the teams like the Pistons and the magic of the world that just kind of find their way in right so the plows would wipe the floor with us the Pistons what if what if what if Ray Allen never makes that three and what if dream I never get suspended Lebron would be one in eight in the finals Allah Jerry West counter as I see your what f. and I countered with what if Kyri and Kevin Love didn't get hurt okay. I know I know what you're trying to how you're trying spin this with the angle and how you phrase never you know. I think that's a fair well I so the thing to me. Is those seem like two monumental consequential plays. I was trying to think like were there. Ones John's in the other direction okay. We're not going to take lebrons side on that. Come on I was waiting. I was giving you that opportunity because the only other what if would be like what if durant doesn't go like to than. Doc Cabinet Lebron in the warriors by what if dream on didn't get suspended. I still think the cavs would have won the entire. The entire was my pick for that series taking the cavs. I don't remember that at all but three one at home and dream on this was actually like peak dream on dream on in that game seven was like thirty to twelve thirty two fifteen <unk> video with Kevin Loving Gary v the other day. I actually didn't watch I saw the headline of course she didn't watch it. The Lebron walked in said listen. WE'RE GONNA win game five or not losing game six and then game seven anything happens what if Sam Dan Press the Trades Russ any Baca and keeps harden and durant how many rings because that team that laughing at I think at least three because you'll have wow you don't have to be with Rawson rausing. Katie doesn't fall apart like maybe Katie still stays yeah well. That's how hard here. What is it the beef because of WHO's taking the shots in Harlem would take more shots than Russ with live? I think it was more of a personality beef. Yeah Russ doesn't seem I mean at the time it was easy to make that move because harden was coming off the bench <hes> they got like Kevin Martin in that deal or something they didn't even get a good hall for him and then God they traded so they weren't going to trade him but that team would have been scary all right what if they kept all three of them together scarier your greatest team ever potentially I mean it's I think not too crazy now at the time like if they would have stayed together years yeah then and yeah I mean think about him now. It's pretty much if you think about them. Two years ago so Russ's coming off his triple doubles so much personality Katie's the weirdest one of the weirdest people on the planet not as I was going to say well he's the second. Kyrie's is the first and now their teammates Lebron James is the weird daycare and once why because he's a family man that enjoys hugh a wine every now and it's a music acco Tuesday so weird and this new layout line <music> outdated or you're such a hater. Oh my her you saw that landline don a little bouncing him for thirty four I know you I know you saw that. What if they're grows doesn't get hurt? Were you a big D Rose Fan Believer Oh oh yeah he he he got hurt against the sixers in that playoff series that we want we were the it's actually crazy that we went. We beat them. In six games. In game. Six was in Philly Andre etc like went to for to for the line for the first time <hes> but the final score that game like it was like seventy something to seventy something crazy like that's crazy to think about a game now not being over ninety at least ninety s like crazy if they're both Reggie Miller did buy yes zero rose rose like if you go back on Youtube and watch his highlights is some of the craziest thing thing I've ever seen like he was so good at Memphis and then came in like was instantly one of the most athletic players in the N._B._A.. Fastest most Memphis oh I was. I was like wait what he wants to that. National Championship trial in Kansas Chalmer hits the shot Mariota. He's diesel you want to you went to the national championship with Calipari as their best player came in everyone no he was going to be a stud was freakish athlete. I've ever seen and I mean he was the youngest m._v._p.. Of all time it was a stud so I mean I think we are we are robbed of de Rose and is what is prime would have been but who knows what's prone in Detroit this year you WanNa the last what if what if Lebron played with Crime Shack Jack Oh my God you have the numbers in front of you Shaq Shaq's. I saw this on E._S._P._N.. Or something the other day it was just a random instagram post. It was like shack numbers burst from the two thousand finals and like it's that kind of thing that you see in the movies that like something's like you can't believe you just like wiping your is like I literally had to take a double take when I saw this. Do you have any idea what the range was of his two thousand staff. In the finals we talked about it was like thirty eight seventeen two point three assists like probably couldn't score in that lane. No you can't do anything and then next year thirty three sixteen into a more diverse the next year thirty six twelve and four assists and then he took a dip in Oh four by his career final stats twenty eight point eight points thirteen rebounds three point four assists and he was seventeen and thirteen and finals games. I don't think that he will ever be as dominant as shack but I do think that will be one of the most talented players if not well. He's definitely the most talented big man what he will be potentially better than D.. Wade was at the time he played with D.. Wade and it's a scary thought yeah I mean a D could be on his way to one of the that's players in the league. I think he's the second best big in the N._B._A.. We've had that discussion. It's crazy and quiet but anyway with shacking Koby like another personality beef like it just didn't work out in the end like but if you had Lebron who hasn't really been known to beef with players that much yeah why beef with them when you can just get him out of the room like you have the power use it but if Lebron was coming up up in two thousand three he was an all-star in I don't know if it was his first year but definitely a second <hes> and that's a scary thought <hes> Lebron Shack Shack didn't he'd be like a world world tour of the Lakers he is like there's like a meme of him in every utilized in minutes played in Color Rainbow Roy but that was fun we can do more what in the future I we gotta announcement to make to make blue eyes tune up with Harry's Abe name name your favorite Harry in sports three wanted. You got the new Harry in this. Go to Harry Potter. 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If you don't love your shave let them know you'll get a full refund Harry's as me like tearing up here can't make sure you gotTa Harrys Dot Com backslash blue wire to redeemer razor for three dollars all right so let's get into the money mailbag real quick. <hes> first question is from West eight seven seven eight the thoughts on the Strom of what it means for the mets future. Do you think that makes them a contender so today Mark Stroman was traded to the mets. It's for their number four number six pitching prospects <hes> this move makes literally zero sense. I do not get it all. They were going to be sellers. They wanted to get rid of syndergaard for some potentially some future pieces and then all of a sudden. They're dishing out young pitching. Being prospects were Marcus Stroman. They're nowhere near the playoffs nor do they really have the pieces right now to make a run and compete I I literally cannot them. I don't know what they're thinking if they're still a little drunk from the weekend 'cause they're playing some good baseball aw they've won four in a row six or last ten six back in the wild card. I mean you can't make up. The Front Office. Is that we're blessed. Within the Newark Sports market ever works the jets the nets some people are all three stanfield for them to go there. You're not just out of it. What did they do? They provide content plain and simple other other New York G._M.. Though is cashman and the Yankees desperately need pitching they have the bats and Stroman was supposed to be the guy and then the giants go in this crazy tear so bumgarner is now off the market and there's virtually no more sellers like everyone in the League is pretty much in the wild card race in the N._F._l.. And ails pretty competitive also so I'm kind of nervous for the Yankees I don't see a ton of pitchers out and like syndergaard. I don't know if they'll trade him within New York because of you know Mattie stuff on there they might after they might have to give up gleyber Torres which I don't know if they would necessarily Wanna do even though they probably should so. I'm interested to see what happens at the deadline and especially with the Yankees because there might pick two winning all but they definitely who now put Indians. They've been probably the hottest team in baseball. I think I'm not sure what my world series pickle be at but right now I'm thinking Indians dodgers and daughters will just be the dodgers again and blow it Kershaw. Give us <unk> somehow something to talk about October the brutal star <hes> where where do we want to go next from the Monday mail that you wanted to talk about which this question was cody lively eighty-four what quarterback was the biggest decline this appear and what quarterback will emerge as a lead this year you start so we'll do going into Klein. I was the bad stuff. Nick foles my guy down in Jacksonville my reasoning behind this is the thing about the games that he's recently played in. He wants three games at the end of the regular season to make a playoff run for us then he we want in Chicago on the road in the playoffs had a heartbreaking loss in New Orleans where we had to get we're winning early and then Alshon the drop at the driving down the field and before that was a super bowl the whole playoff run like how does this guy go up further from what he's been doing statistically sure right made cassette. It's Kinda based off what you're basing I. I'm going with accomplishments this guy and much more right. It's pretty much Super Bowl M._v._p.. Or Bust is what you're trying to set right a little cartel Jones in that three-game run it Ohio Ohio State and who is your biggest rising quarterback for the year my biggest rising quarterback. I mean this doesn't really like he's already considered a very very good quarterback in correcting N._F._l.. But I think this year we're talking doc in M._v._p.. Possibilities for Andrew Luck New Love La. I love lock. <hes> I think the culture a good team I think is one of the best offensive lines and football T._Y.. I think we'd have a big year out of Marla Mac. I don't know I just think Andrew Lock when he's healthy has been unbelievable in the past and the colts has the web. He has the pieces around him now. They have the defense a very young team they all were drafted by the colts got a good culture. Frank Reich won a super super bowl with the eagles as their offense coordinator. He's a Q._B.. Whisper and I don't know I just see rush. Get locked getting into that <hes> M._v._p.. Conversation this year. I think I need Charlie to cut us a soundbite so I can use my alarm. I believe said I see Marlin Mac having a big year and I would love that to wake me up every morning so I could just start with a nice little chuckle whether or not it's true just the prediction of Marlin Mac having a big year. What is that outrageous Marlin mack who the hell is a Marlin Mac Marlon Mac running back on the colts who had nine touchdowns but Marlin Mac will never have a big year that that is growing say Marlon Mac two year in the N._F._l.? What are you talking about? He had nine hundred yards and nine touchdowns. I actually I want the sound bite sent to me. Charlie my the biggest drop off. I Have Josh Allen going from Becca Marlin Mac Mike Guy I've him going from a very average rookie year to absolutely horrible <hes> you're talking like Nathan Peterman not not Nathan Peterman Games here and there. I just think he Josh Allen cannot complete pass like people make fun of the baby goat for running an for not being throw. Josh Allen had a lower completion percentage than him he he literally cannot make sample size they have they have less. They just have no weapons. It'll be tough for him. Buffalo's kind of like a they don't really know what's going on. <hes> so I've Josh Allen going from you know kind of average rookie two in the second year taking a few steps back by biggest riser. I don't <hes> I mean his Aaron. Rodgers is a bad decision and is considered one. The town was talented quarterback. I think Arnold will definitely get up there darnold because I went on record saying the jets are GonNa have a big year. I think it's more <hes> I trust the defense than Levy on but I don't know if they have the necessary. Arnold looked really good at the end. I don't think they have enough like receivers around him quincy new MA. Maybe he'll step up this this year but if treated like a number two receiver like he's getting that amount of looks that he did in Pittsburgh who knows maybe maybe you could be onto something with Donald's so I'm not in on the browns hype train but I will say I think I'm all in I think I think I might just based off weapons. Baker makes that next step because I think he's a legit quarterback. Hail have a full season of sixteen game started hill probably lead them to the playoffs out. I guess I'll give it to the bigger but I I can't wrap my head around the thought of O B j <hes> with a competent quarterback yet. It's going to be made. It's it's GonNa be Great. <hes> top five potential contenders to win the Super Bowl Chris Cortez has underscored twenty one asks you go first you go right off the top chiefs Patriots A._F._C.. I'm going. I don't think the Rams I'm not that high on the saints <unk>. I've said the packers are up there <hes> if I had if I had two more in there I would go saints and go ahead <hes> come on tried to say the Ravens no Jeddah and the Eagle sorry yeah. You had to make it the last pick no I genuinely I was just thinking and I could not remember and thankfully ushering me into it. I mean not you. I don't think people's are contender though that that's not just I fully I'm in gusts room and he's a diehard Eagle Fan and unlike looking out outmanoeuvred. I'm looking at a blank space at the wall and literally there's signed Blake or not. Blake Brent Salik picture on the wall down staring over. I'm staring at you. It was a little decorative thing that has all freaking framed newspaper combination of headlines like at last. It's papers right over there on the left here. Framed is disgusting and there's a blank. He's kind of like obsessed. He's lucky you we should really be in that room but I'm going top five eagles for obvious reasons patriots chiefs big on the colts this year as I've said before and they go on the chargers as well if if if a Melvin get the deal done so that's contingent the chargers every year it's my favorite pick why twelve and four last year I know and he just can't get it done. Yeah Yeah I mean people have been putting Chris Berman putting the eagles charters in the super bowl together since like Ladainian Tomlinson Days Lt the goat <hes> last question owed h six this was inconsideration iteration for my biggest drop off. Although I don't think he'll drop off like crazy I do think whole decline. Why are you guys? Both sit down on the bears. Last year was trubisky's first year with a good coach. That's definitely true. Mine like I was saying is more correlated to I think the defense was <unk> very injury free and turn turn other teams over at an extreme rate. I don't think it's realistic to see that production again next year plus. I'm calling the bluff on trubisky. I don't think he's she's as efficient and will play his clean especially when he has to step up in a bigger role and it still doesn't sound like the bears have fixed. They're kicking problems why I mean I think you hit it on the head. I I don't think cody Parkey is that good and he can make plays Cody Parkey as a quarterback. Can we cut that to that one. We're leaving for just absolute yeah my bad brain far Mitch Trubisky as a quarterback Iraq even though I don't think cody park would make a good quarterback either but twelve interceptions last year. I just saw him like misthrows constantly throughout the year. I think you hit it right on the head with the defense. I think it's going to be very hard to sustain what they did. Last year. I think losing VIC Fangio was huge. He's now the head coach in Denver Yeah. I don't know it's very hard year in year out in the N._F._l.. Sustained success and I'm not in on trubisky not enough yet also lost Jordan Howard. I know he might have had a little down near the past two but last year but in not you know the third leading rusher in the <unk> since two thousand sixteen S it's like girly than Z and then Jordan Howard but plus plus you kind of have you have to imagine rogers is going to be more effective in that division this year than he was last year. I mean we see we talked about it before like there's new teams making the playoffs and being the surprise team every year last year was the bears. No one expected them to be as good as they were. Her and I don't know someone's got someone comes up. Someone's gotTa go down yeah. I love that <hes> I last parting words. I have another Summer League game tomorrow. We're to scold you that kid that the Emmy no-one tires are then. I got like ten hundred messages saying how much people WanNa see my highlights and stuff so we're going to touch on the summer league. Get One or two bloopers yeah well at least the highlight not highlight the post I put up last week was a I got my pocket picked so that was obviously you had to add that. You ran back on defense because we're all about the hustle live crew ball our charity basketball tournament coming up in a few weeks <hes> Lincoln Pyo if you'd like to donate. We'd really appreciate it. Yes that's all for me anything from you. I'm just the my whole last week at work I was. I was doing my work but I also twitter up and it's like at twitter during N._F._l.. Training camp like when it first opened his unbelievable because you see like Carson wentz complete fifteen yard pass Dow Scout enough million all we're going to be so and then you have like the over the Summer League basketball but like the debt is nothing just throw away where like saquon actually defendant <unk> gang's slandered is just like hilarious because it's these one one off clips that are just now yes. 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Chiefs Take A Hard Loss To The Colts

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Chiefs Take A Hard Loss To The Colts

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It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind it's pain and it's getting in between you how are we doing chiefs kingdom welcomed Kingdom radio I'm your host Richard Smith along with my co host and senior NFL analyst Chris Chavez Chris how we doing tonight on this Sambre Monday kingdom radio DOT item mortar dot com slash sale again that his kingdom radio DOT item mortar dot com slash sale and tonight Kansas within blessed look unfortunately the chiefs fell to the colts nineteen to thirteen Sunday night there's a lot to dissect in this game vent any disease it's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind it's pain and it's getting in between you and a life you want to live CD medic targets your pain at its source it's fast acting relief with active ingredients plus the added benefits of THC a fantastic game threw for three hundred twenty one yards he had a touchdown again another game with no interceptions in you think that a October seventh after our disappointing loss to the colts blessed humbled and blessed and there's nothing wrong with that I'm right there with you wells kingdom radio hoodies rep your favorite podcasts and help us bring chiefs kingdom even more awesome content and analysis analysis you can view and purchase by search Starlink but first off let's get through this promotional stuff I'd like to think Pete Shop Platte city our main sponsor we will be back at Platte city for more live podcast watch parties weeks and Arrowhead and if you can't find this their research kingdom radio chance issues and you will find us welcome to the Kingdom Kingdom look we're going to get right into this I don't even WanNa talk about any other games the NFL Even though we had you know division matchup going on and some other divisional games I wanna talk about the chiefs mm facebook and like keen radio stay up-to-date on all of our live podcasts events also you'll find all the new kingdom radio gear which is now they will purchase men's women's and children's t shirts free hemp oil get back to your life with CD medic available online and at cvs these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA this product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or And as I said earlier any Annapolis beat the chiefs on Primetime Sunday night nineteen to thirteen and again we watch passion the home struggle the Broncos and week ten for the titans be sure to enter our upcoming giveaways featuring signed memorabilia from Tony Gonzalez Dante Hall and Derrick Thomas be sure to find I mean you look at his stat line last night and aside from the number of touchdowns you think that he pieces together and figure out what's going on here with the chiefs and Chris I'm GonNa let you take off on this you are the senior. NFL analyst always bring a lot of great content but up the way it was it was just hard to watch Patrick Mahomes you know these last few weeks just get hit over and over and over again and it's getting to a point where if that on Primetime Television seems to be a recurring thing here and chiefs kingdom no matter if it's an away game or a home game and we really really need to put some of bumping receivers and are tied off the line you know creating I'll longer play design you know when Patrick Mahomes has needs to be we have significant case of the drop sees last night Travis Kelsey absolutely there's an especially since we watched him drop at least four that went through his hands and you can see that he's obviously frustrated and I think the colts defense did a great job Anakin reinjured even further on top of that in the second half he's out there still single still running on that it's a completely different story altogether and I don't want an aside put this on Patrick mahomes because he's out there cool keeps acting up like it is this could be a huge problem going into the rest of the season and I haven't touched base on social media tonight about you know possibly cool on top of that and you know I I can't even say that he's making the really bad throws he's really putting the board maybe Andy Reid needs to take the bull by the horns and maybe patrick down for a week and I know that's not what she's Kingsholm wants to hear and that might not be and a half to happen but I think that look something's going to have to happen and we really really need to hone in on what the problems are on offense now let me ask you this while we're on the chiefs offense and obviously Sammy Watkins tried to go and and was out you know our offensive line wasn't holding up we had some key four catches for seventy yards a seventeen twenty five yard per carry or catch average no touchdowns along with twenty four I know I'm just kidding eighty it is so difficult to truly put your finger on the one thing that's going on just like him on his performance chiefs dominated that game yes you look at the at the scoreline and McCoy you know child Kelsey was dropping the ball night we couldn't get any we couldn't get any Shouldn't take any pressure off of Patrick Mahomes if he tightens without won't be until November by then I mean the ankle issue hopefully we'll have healed by that right when you look at how many targets he had yet ten targets you thrown to ten times and he walks away with four inches that is unacceptable tell chiefs kingdom what is going on with the chiefs why did we lose this game what happened I think are like a piece of debris as he'll apple podcast Google podcasts defies record player at them cast box an all third party applications checks out facebook platforms such as you've already injured ankle roach thaw e got reinjured heard in the first half and then got stepped on as well as defense yeah absolutely and looking at the after schedule at least for the next five games balls hands you know longer than he typically should obviously they're gonNA get pressure on him and it might not go the way we want to especially with our offensive line banged up let me see what I'm looking for public enemy number one in the drop sees department is trying to Kelsey who had a what what is the main issue that you find on our offense we obviously turned away from the running game after the fumble by Leshan we are is extremely physical play yes and I mean having these I as I'm analyzing last week's game against Detroit and tonight's game I'm looking at the injuries there I honestly cheese players were fought dropping like flies last night but what's going on here I mean me what was going on is this a Andy Reid thing did andy re come out with a horrible game plan and just not have a backup plan or I think that the Texas are going to be a playoff caliber team and if we can potentially knock them down and or out of the playoffs double night last night mind you yeah well and again that's another one of those where you look at the stat line had a pretty good game blown on and end up over by the sideline We need to get a big physical listen snorts updates to local kingdom rick or we talk all things Kansas City chiefs brought to you by Arrowhead empty joined Chris wishart on Iheart as far as more of a big body receiver that can get off of off the line and you know he's still not a huge receiver but he seems like he genocide say that we won't even for that they can't eventually get there but hardman's a rookie and he's still learning the minded been our our ticket to success and we didn't even utilize him in going going in that direction what I will the New England game in the playoffs what I'm kinda starting to see is our Kryptonite to the Superman offense I know that in the past a wad of fans have come down extremely hard on Sammy Watkins including myself Yes for for X. Y. Z. But if he had been out on the field I mean you look at our past games against the raiders begins you only have two opportunities where you can really really realistically do that not this week against the Texans all of these wide receivers who could absolutely for why on the field doesn't do anything for us if they can get bumped off their route of and worry about Kelsey last night they didn't worry about Kelsey Snell Kelsey taken herself out of the game because trump in the darn ball yes being able to step up in those situations and still perform and you commanded attention from the defense to get the NFL aspect of the game especially in the handy res offense that's extremely complicated Yes d rob he's been with cheese now for work work to our favor but we have the Broncos there's the Thursday after that game and then five weeks out we got there three years why don't you why don't we use him more last night that was a big question for me why didn't we utilize demarcus Robinson more because he fits the bill five weeks of the season or gone you know the first five weeks I was like look we don't even need tyreek hill but I'll tell you what we need tyreek hill back in that offense to UPI stop last night was pringle essentially our forth our our forth because walk ins was up our fourth wide receiver on the depth chart yes and he by some critics might not have even made the Kansas City chiefs roster yes and I it was it was a complete look it was a horrible show you know what I want to say I can't on air like a hardman had happened to him last night get showed out of balance if these guys essentially can get all the way around and you saw that look and Andy Reed's I like you like you typically do in the playoffs yeah and just go back to the making a splash way more than pringle on any given Sunday I'm I know mahomes spreads the ball around a lot but it's just we're so beat up right now is not a number one or even a number two quality wide receiver because a number one number two would we're we're going to hear in the future but but realistically look we Miss Sammy Watkins last night and also let me ask you this now that you know the first that derive just made himself a couple more million dollars this off season Bubba Bubba we saw last night that derived saying his that we saw the Sammy Watkins Slash Cheetah effect on our passing game and I'm to cover to cover Kelsey to cover Hartman to cover whoever else we were throwing them and the only person who really realistically all over who can't get pushed around like are wide receivers have been and that's not the doors off of the other teams you know to get Kelsey opened in the flats not be able to dump the ball out to Williams you know like you're saying that's our that's our bread and it's early in the season and it makes me nervous I just we need to have a solid game this coming up we've got it the lions these guys can get open if they if the defense has to worry about that number one in her house but it was it was a terrible game by the offense in it and it's making me question the physicality of our offense and you know is I wouldn't give it to anybody else I mean maybe Patrick Mahomes as hard not to but when that is the Shining Star on our offense we are looking for voter with Williams is dumping the ball to getting them open the flats a running games not there a passing game isn't there we looked absolutely dead on offense all right I mean these guys are absolutely loaded at wide receiver and amazingly they've got this running back who I don't know I mean wow that was incredibly impressive and then you throw in the also have Kenny stills as well this season yeah which and you know I too I definitely would have said that he would have been on defense if I remember classmate and my thing about it is is when you have Byron pringle be an MVP of of of the offense for that game which he truly was you know and it shouldn't it shouldn't be hard to slows down without Sammy Watkins and without Tyreek Hill but at the same time I mean we should add a little bit more productive game the we're talking about in preseason he would have been on the fence you he was looking fantastic last night yes he caught the only touchdown pass now which you know kind of it blows my mind I'm not gonna lie but also at the same time it is what it is and we should yeah I don't think anybody wants wants to be with the thing that worries me about the Texans is at the always plays extremely physically right we did and look I'm a I'm GonNa Kinda move over the colts side of the ball here their offense I gotta say it was the Marlon Mac show yesterday we could not stop era thing really quickly earlier in the season Are you listening to all the Games watching all the games the commentators keep saying and they tortured us last night on the ground they controlled the clock I mean we were almost in the fourth quarter you know we were actually we were in the the problem is really having a real resurgence there in Houston I mean he's not lighting up the league but he's doing really good for them right rand we are not worthy to that Colt offense of lying because while was that impressive yes they pushed us and you the they've got probably too well I won't say too they have one of the best one deceiver other guys open they didn't have to do that he could cover him One v one and and that would free up a guy too they're having not moved or address the ball at all right and it's almost like they're watching it in slow mo before mm production I mean he's got almost one hundred yards more than shady who is leading rusher turn around because I don't want this to turn into a Rut or or you know I I don't want this to be a recurring issue for the chiefs Atas motivation moving forward into season Andy Reid got to get this right he's got a tweak something obviously teams are kind of figured out how to slow us down a bit Google and no I don't WanNa take any credit away from pringle he did a great job but we have some obvious playmakers that should be you know I down yes but the speaking I mean let's be real take all take a shady over him any day of the week absolute Carlos Hides Ah you before you even get into any of that I am pulling a Wayne's world as sort of move here that guy no matter what we did no matter how many guys we stacked in the box I mean we're still plane to safety deep which blew my mind was spags they're running down our throat and we weren't made they start to attack the ball like I feel like in a way it's almost like our linebackers or playing a reverse role against mack corrupting the ball la granted it are extremely stupid penalties yes kept giving them the and make a play which that's what they were doing and that's why we were getting blown out of the water so bad he's a physical back he's quick he can get into the open field it completed zero passes he attempted zero passes beyond twenty yards given where are running game is currently at right now I mean I would like to see in backpack with the chiefs but I mean really realistically in the Game Right now Indiana Johns Hopkins yes and then you look at the game that will fuller put us on this weekend I see I and I know that the the the first thing that everybody jumps to his or run defense run defense run defense and you around worth quarter and in the second half you know at that point the colts had already had the ball for like like seventeen minutes of the second half and we had the ball for like three this game whatsoever and I really would have liked to have seen a stack the box or then this is going to be kind of heresy to say this Vince of our defense is when it mattered not that it didn't matter the whole game we rephrase that that win win the Kennedy adjustments a so I mean what you have to say you know about spags in our defense in the lack of coaching last night fast break tackles you've got to be aggressive with a running back like that and we just sat back and let them run on US I do I do not understand the play calling I don't to the game plan stick to the game plan stick game plan but look this is a different league now and when you have a player like Marlon Mac running down our throats everything that he completed was under ten and then he was rather sporadic between the ten to twenty yard one yard marker let the fact that we didn't even try to to change up the game plan at all I mean if it's not working try something else and I know that a lot of coaches your stick you to come to you in the first half yesterday about our linebackers I mean the balls been handed off in for good second there there stance yard loss one of the most important plays of the game was finally nice to see him get in there but still it just they blew the doors off of us no matter what scheme we picked no matter always scored one touchdown right but you're going up against Terry and you know he's GonNa nail for four I mean you could you up yeah that's automatic for Viteri and you think of think if we wouldn't have stopped them on on those on those plays like it would have the game Carr's Mac is one of those patient runners who waits for the whole develop but as a linebacker you've got to plug those holes you cannot wait till mack hits the whole before throw nine guys in the box I mean they they were daring us to do it to shut down their run game with a run game we if we shut that down from hurry different game yes now what we'll say for in the colts prior to last year you look at all of these other teams who have had a a franchise quarterbacks and Art Senan Guy stopped sitting back start sending guys You know I love seeing the honey badger make that play you know it was like a five what's were driving on us they were able to get the stops and force him into four field goals last night the cold there make him throws the ball against us right I mean the guy threw for one hundred fifty yards he didn't wipe us up for but gosh a hundred eighty yards on the ground we just cannot have that here in chiefs kingdom we cannot win weekend and week out more around that type of production let's yeah I remember seeing that that was an incredible and I want to say that it was only like two possessions at that point in the second half day just the ground especially against back who really truly isn't even a premier running back in the NFL after this weekend looks dependence and I mean I'm I'm just GonNa say this right now that Clinton Nelson as long as he stays healthy he's a hall of Famer you're saying that right now right fair enough fair enough no arguments here no arguments here so it also shows that and then our scheme you know we've talked about all of those things but I really wanNA bring each of them to attention to it this was obviously the worst game of the season for us I'm glad the that happened early I hate that happening against the colts the offensive line is definitely something that we need to spend a top none as number one but he top DR number one are poor run defense penalties injuries lack of strength on the defensive line killed us the game and then we lost a Xavier Williams we lost Chris Jones Frank Hark went out he came back in attention in their own respect because all of those things ultimately lead to a loss last night and honestly we should be lucky that we only lost nineteen to thirty who we had on the field K Patty a great day Chris Jones went out early we are just beat up and and it showed in and I we just were not prepared for and way out of hand and looked colts total two hundred eighty yards rushing you touch base on the hundred fifty one Jacoby through I don't want us to lose to any team and so look let's let's talk about why why the colts offense was so successful I know we've touched base will really going to hop in here and seen all all season and a really glad and we're lucky that he was active last night because if he hadn't had been in there I don't think that and I mean okay so another stat that flashed up in the middle of the Game Oh sure All of cheese kingdom suddenness but I bad or how much worse that run game could have been against Archie Stevens Oh yeah it could have been really really ugly and in we're still foreign one we love our chiefs no matter win lose or draw at the end of the day we still love the chiefs and offtake on moving into next year just the right guy is there we need to make that investment because you look at the Houston Texans there's some things out here's my thing is we do come down hard on the chiefs every single time every time the chiefs lose become down on them and just remember Kansas City around him out there blindfolded he would hit for those field goals right now granted you know ambulatory has had a rough season so far but you know where he was lying Wiley was what who wasn't getting burnt clayborn saw action but didn't really get tested by Jacoby percents but I mean really don't spend the draft capital on the opposite lying to protect them how many of those guys are still in the league and how many of them are still productive avenue another defensive tackle body that we could have thrown in there and I I would be extremely nervous to think about just how it was already ugly and so this is one of those things that I mean there really wasn't any defensive bright spots for the chiefs at all I mean our D. line was basically down to the last gas guys that we had on the roster Colin Saunders ended up seeing the most playing time he and not many if any and tell you what we keep how mahomes run around like he is that kid is going to end up hurt before the season is over we really really gotTA figure get back to your life with CBD medic available online and that CBS these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA this product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease all through this whole game other than the honey badger finally get his first interception and making that big play in the Backfield You Know Charles Ward but I think connects very well with the injuries that we had on the D. Line especially but we lost hitchens early on things are going to start talking about him as if he is but I mean honestly you can probably throw just about any running back behind that offensive line and they're gone eighteen yeah no absolutely I mean we kind of Ori or you we've got a gun and be kind of in-depth into the poor remedy gene and we'd better not ever ever ever come back out on the football field like that because you think we looked bad last year look the highlights from last night we look terrible terrible typically there is nothing to speak of on the chiefs defense last night it was embarrassing that run defense was absolutely horrid and completely embarrassed E._s. these statements have not been evaluated by the F._D._a. this product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease all right going forward because it's starting become an issue I feel like he can't properly gets set make the right throws or make the throws as coffee and making he's been every hundred percent agree with you the only question that I would pose is how much of that is his poorest often divine in block who has mark three reigns over I I mean you're pushing a three hundred pound man and a good ten feet or more rentable to watch that happen play after play after play the hold on it wasn't incredible I they looked awful but still threw for three hundred twenty one yards and it just something wasn't click and Kansas City we're going to go into halftime so hold on we're going to go into halftime Kansas City Kansas City it is halftime thank you for tuning radio we will return momentarily complete crap show no matter which way you look at it and would that be in said hey look I'm getting a little notional here I mean they just made us look stupid man and and as much credit as they deserve is hard to give him credit because I mean I'm just completely disappointed by our game plan our lack of execution our versatility that didn't even show up I it was Kansas City welcome back from halftime So look last night really was the first time that Patrick Mahomes Dash t bothering Patrick Mahomes and you know I put emphasis on earlier in the shot put emphasis on it on social media as something that we really should be concerned about in one direction and making it look like families is snapping his fingers and the guy is just disappearing he hasn't really been affected even even after the second time that he was stepped on last night he was still able to go out there and make it yeah right but it just for it to happen to us and for us to put as much into our defensive side of the ball just for us to get walked all over by playoff contender the hasn't been clicking and I'm GonNa Touch base on this right now I don't want to wait any further what's up with this ankle injury do you really I mean this is something that obviously is bought after correct you man all these things that you keep saying are incredible on the colts no we're by the chiefs that stuff sucks it's not incredible our team shows lack of consistency and see true but I'm giving in credit where it's due because you don't really see that happen in ten week out you're right front of him that's making him after worry about okay what where am I going to get hit from do I need to take off 'cause being realistic his mobility it was like a thirteen yard run could be author a little bit but he still made a pretty decent length run with that bad ankle but since the ankle injury he's been off off and that's it all the while I should he should he even be playing that's my thing is that's all great that's all fine and Dandy but winner ran across the line be like mahomes you cannot keep doing that those things that when you come up limping like that no matter what Patrick Mahomes says you give that man medical attention yeah no absolutely I in I don't want mahomes out there scrambling around on a bad ankle that makes zero sense none and and I agree with you but if the issue is regard he definitely should have been held out of the game and been properly looked at I absolutely agree with you there and get beat up game in and game out and being left in and scenarios where he should clearly be sitting and I don't like that I don't care what anybody thinks she's kingdom that my thing is that's where no matter who is on the team I don't care how much passion Mahomes is the MVP the League Andy Reid you're still the coach you take control that city is not the right way to go about business and I feel like we're putting too much on the shoulders of mahomes right now and something needs to happen ah the long term goal in mind yes and even longer term than that we need for Patrick Mahomes to be held relation you sit down and make him sit out a player to get looked at by the medical staff and as long as things like I'm extremely passionate about this because I'm watching this man came against the colts here in week five right went wins realistically we're playing for a super bowl and we have to engine for with a healthy mahomes right we're versus a broken down Robert Griffin the third version of a Patrick mahomes course the issue really off of winding from it which obviously is the offensive line but still if he's got a bad ankle I mean you know what I mean I it's the ten years twelve years from now because how many super bowls could we win with or even being content in this kind of goes into points that I'm GonNa make later on toward the end of the show but wrote is for point of us the homes got sacked four times last night you know the injuries the lack of Balance Shady McCoy fumble lack of a number one receiver honestly fighting for because that's going to have the wrong connotation with most of the point of us leaving him in there to get injured while trying to battle out this really ugly out of Sync Patrick Mahomes was out of rhythm there was no balance on all of our key possessions we sputtered you know and even their big plays were called act two penalties regardless which side of the ball drives halted due to drops by Travis Kelsey all night look going in I would much rather have the Patrick mahomes versus the ladder right absolutely and you know this is the thing is like you said we looked as nearly a third of the colts offense of production it's just we looked so bad last night I don't this game the chiefs had three sacks against Mahomes you know the opposing defense had three sacks against mahomes all season and last night they had four sacks Oh yes oh chiefs cheerleaders always look good that's for sure a way to bring a highlight out of the game last night because I really think the only highlight in this game beside on the field poor blocking I mean so many things came into this penalties and told the chiefs were penalized eleven times for one hundred twenty five yards on the night going into the game and we want the best for Houston I don't think anybody and cheese kingdom would ever wish ill upon him and it's almost well deserving of Houston look over chief sideline because I promise you he'd rather be wearing the chiefs Jersey this season and pretty much riddled his career after the really big sack season that he had right right and and you know it was I almost think that was horrible spags horrible offense horrible defense horrible special teams no good I was not impressed at all with anything chiefs and that's something look if we see them in the playoffs and you read remember that remember that remember this whole game for the next decade Andy Reid the yards and the chiefs only touchdown and so I mean what are we doing moving forward here because do think that other teams will be able to utilize the same blueprint moving forward you know as far as being aggressive and bumping receivers off the line I think there are definitely going to try and until we get either Cheetah or Watkins back in the White House even game yeah well and then also one of those tackles was the huge fourth and one stop in the Backfield yes and Mac was ambiance just Houston force four tackles and one sack on a huge stack and unfortunately he wears a culture now a lot of the majority of our problems on offense our self-imposed problems I mean you can't allow it was great to hear the commentators talk about how much he wanted to end his career in in Kansas City and and I mean it's way too early I still think he's got a few more years left in him but I definitely don't WanNa shut that door on him I mean if nothing else he'll we're being exposed right now big time our weaknesses are being exposed and Andy Reid has got to do what it takes to mix this up and come in next week full steam ahead that you know we were putting too much pressure on him and our defense before as well look there's I don't I don't know what it was with just the Texans at Arrowhead What can we expect from that do should we be looking for Houston obviously we loved him in Kansas City he was injury prone and like you said we wish him nothing but the best moving forward we just hate to see him be productive against the it would have been hard to keep him on the roster pay amount of money and with the injury plague that had a the guy to push you off your mark you can't drop the ball they clearly hit you in the hands and you know when your topic an even even though you know mahomes threw for three hundred yards again with a touchdown like we said Byrom Pringle Costs Hispanics six passes for one hundred you've been in this league long enough you know how to carry that ball yes step up your game and show these guys how it's done with a clear head and different game plan okay I'm GonNa Give Shady a little bit of a locker room material right now shady McCoy you're thirty after which he looked over at the chiefs sideline and kind of gave him what's up and I we we said this last week last couple weeks we really look dismal all the way around so with with the Texans they don't quite have the offense of line the Watkins canker Watson can and I definitely think that we're going to see a big game running game should we be looking for big passing game where do we go from here against a team such a huge defensive team like the Texans after you know the ball on the ground especially after his huge thirty eight yard burst you can't have that in the offense I don't care what team you play for you cannot put the ball on the ground the to the quarterback I would say so although look obviously the art shooting that looked really good as always will give it up the chiefs cheerleaders Midwest chick some of the most smoking hot women in the country an even number of run plays and pass plays or the chiefs Houston will okay okay and and so look the on next week because you know we sitting here talking about will other teams to utilize the same blueprint and now we're going to go you know play Ori Leader in that running back room yes and you know honestly we're going to need him next week as well unless kind of move into what we have gone feel like there's anything that we can touch base on this on this game that we can bring out in a positive aspect I think that they'll at least be able to have some success with that and however long this Kelsey job charges here's her out D rob and look McCall up on this one on Your Year Rookie D. Rob you've gotta step up man yes and Shady McCoy cannot be we know every team has played the chiefs have been ball hawks they've come in they're coming in knocking the ball out that's something else we need to work on protecting the ball to do what the colts did however I still expect for them to try to utilize their run game because they're going to have imortant more balanced run your old man carries a ball like you are bro Drop Ins of ball yes in look for them to be a more balanced team I'm with you on that one they've got a running attack they've got a great air game like I said they're offensive line isn't the best can we get title or album vehicles him a one day contract like we saw three guys get this this off season but yes yes but when it comes down to it at the end of the day no matter if we have a bad game or two bad games we're still a super bowl team and we yes last night and then he he made his pay for last night he did and now is the one thing I didn't want him to do is make make us pay for and he did in in the past game then they're run game but they're going to have a pretty balanced number of run plays versus past place he starts in the playoffs so I don't think that you know we really have anything to be worried about is there things need to be polished and things that need to be fixed a lot one game does not matter two games don't matter I mean are we going to have bad games yes yesterday with back there you're gonNA have a quarterback who can throw it forty fifty yards downfield right we're out percent didn't really show that last night and I just look were all right and and I'm sure you can't argue with me about you know our seasons starts in the playoffs absolutely on him and making him have a long day but here's my thing is even though we're playing the Texans and you've you've met the regular season you know as as almost like a given it's almost guarantee and our season legit raises eyebrows

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Episode 66: Coachspeak or Real?

Establish The Run

49:50 min | 1 year ago

Episode 66: Coachspeak or Real?

"Do has no and welcome to episode sixty six of the official established the run. Dot Com. Podcast my name is Adam Tanna one of the cofounders here at Etr as always I am joined by fellow Co founder Lord of the top one fifty the man who moves ADP's is of course seven silver. Evan what's going on what's up man. I'm doing pretty well yourself. Yeah don't well Began outside a lot more feeling fresh through good. We're actually I mean. Hopefully we're only two short months away from training camp opening. Hopefully we'll be seeing teams getting into camps mid-july late July. I hope that's the case and on today's show we're talk about some of the recent coachspeak some of the recent beat reports a little bit on the schedule. Try to figure out what's real and what we should ignore. I think it's important exercise and also allows us to talk about just what we think generally about some of these players. Of course what you should not ignore. Is that our draft? Kit is now live at a ridiculously cheap price and offensive price to me of just thirty dollars. On the site Evans. Top One fifty tear sleepers dynasty rankings. And just put up a pick by pick thought process that drafted. He recently did tons of content from myself. Pekka Rain Pat Thornton. Everything needs to be prepared to come. Drafty and of course. Everyone who buys a draft kid gets a twenty five dollar coupons to us at F. F. P. C. They have these like season-long tournaments which are really cool like Kinda like a DFS large field gp but for season-long So yeah it's interesting and worth exploring their anyways. Let's get to it with the topics of the day Evan. I felt one of the most important things to think about. And we've seen over the last couple of weeks of speculation I've Pittsburgh on James Connor. I was kind of skeptical on this. I thought they'd go back to our BBC but they have Jalen Samuels. They have any smell. They drafted Anthony Macfarlane. Who I think has some juice but if you look back in the history of what the steelers have done under my Tomah the running back position that has not been their emo- go to our BBC. It has been to use a feature guy and he said it last week. He said I'm a featured runner type of guy by mentality. Usually when it's going. Well it's because you have a lead dog out front and that guy is featured runner. Of course he was referring to James Connor and he said I. When you have ADT featured runner it gives him an opportunity drop a stake in the ground and allows others to rally around him gives him a set of core base. Run Place he specializes in. Then you find the rhythm that way so I haven't you have James Connor Arby's eighteen fiftieth overall. It seems like they're you're hedging a bit that this will be a bit of an our BBC talk to the people about how you came to your James. Connor ranking if you believe these Mike Tomlin quotes about the lead dog so we keep reading the. The steelers want to limit James Connors touches in. That's fine but I I'm just not sure that they're gonNA end up sticking to that first of all seven games last year James. Connor was on as for over fourteen hundred yards. Sixty six catches or thirteen touchdowns after that. He only played fifty six snaps. The rest of the season you to a bunch of bunch of injuries It was number sixteen among running backs in a loose of rating so he was still playing at a high level when he was healthy. And then I think that Ben Rothlisberger coming back then is going to be running the show in Pittsburgh again. You know. It's not going to be rainy. Thickener this is GonNa be Ben's offense and when push comes to shove. I think that Ben is GonNa want James Connor in their next to him during the Games and not the fourth round rookie. Who's barely practiced with an empty Macfarlane or betty sell? Who's just not very talented Maybe some Jalen Samuels at times but I think that Ben is GonNa want James Connor in the game with him and the steelers getting back a healthy juju bringing back four starters on the offensive line. It's going to be a good offense as long as bench stays healthy so I don't think I'm hedging. I'm staying above consensus. And if consensus starts to catch up with me I will move James Connor higher because I think he's a guy that we should be targeting issue anywhere in the RB. Fourteen rbis eighteen rich. Yeah and that's kind of what I was thinking. I was thinking that we could even have James Connor even higher especially if you believe these quotes from Mike Tomlin over the last week especially if you believe like we do that. It's really hard to predict injuries. And while we don't think Ben Rothlisberger has a lot to play sixteen games betting on Him Missing. A large chunk of the season again is kind of failed exercise So yeah I think there's definitely room for James Connor to move up and I I kind of they de Ngelo Williams in a feature role even they had when they like Steven Ridley. They they give Steven Ridley like eighteen. Kit Touches the game when it was down to desperation. They weren't using other guys so I think ideally Tomlin WanNa use just one guy art with reach a just to be clear. We are way ahead of a way above consensus on James Connor from top. One fifty overall standpoint also five spots ahead of him relative to F. PC ADP according to fantasy Mojo dot com a great website. I wanted to shut them out. We have James Connor right now or eighteen and his ADP ACCORDING TO FFA. See a best ball drafts right now. Rb Twenty three. So we're we're considerably above consensus James Connor and we're going to keep it that way. All right after reading your pick by pick recap. I think we might disagree a bit on this one. I WanNa talk about the todd. Gurley quotes that we got out of Atlanta last week. It was just shocking to me. I'm not shocking. But just like men. Atlanta's just I mean you've been hard on Atlanta draft. I just think they're a bunch of donkeys the way they're running things and so we get this quote from Dirk Cutter. That says on tug early. Well you know they asked about Tiger says well we just have to see how healthy is and how consistently he can do it. He can still do it. It's just a matter how of how often he can do it. I mean Atlanta is already talking about tiger health. They haven't even really seen him yet. And so I'm not gonna say that just because they didn't add any running backs just because they have Brian Hill. Quadri Alison Ito's Smith. That means they're confident tigers health. I think that they're dumb enough to think. Hey will use those guys with Todd. Gurley. That were still were still fine in the backfield with a seventy five percent tigres or sixty percent todd Gurley so and man I mean tiger has been bad like you know. He's got significantly worse last couple years with these health concerns with the way he's played in the past game going down and maybe there's some of that is to blame on the way the rams played last year. But I'm scared of Todd Gurley a lot this year as a third round pick you have him rb. Fourteen thirty eighth overall. I think that's a little bit rich for me to the Dirk cutter quotes from last week's scare you. At all thirty eight overall that is a fringed. Third Fourth Round Pick in in twelve teams. it's really It's really a fourth round pick The the comment about we don't know where he is from a health standpoint. I mean I don't really know what Dirk Koetter meant that I mean dirt cutter. Hasn't seen Todd Gurley yet. Probably outside of maybe zoom conference. So I think that's a fair question. I think that everyone kind of wonders about Dodge early. Health is an ongoing question with him. He did state most mostly healthy last year. Other rams racist not played as the season progressed. He just lasted lack old burst explosion. I thought and you know whether he can continue to hold up. I mean that's an open question. It's an open question for pretty much any running back whether they can hold up to the nature of the position but guerrillas obviously at higher risk because of his arthritic knee. So what? You're betting on with todd. Gurley is his situation. Which looks like it's going to be very fantasy friendly in a good offense that is going to score points behind offensive line. That got banged up last year but looks really good on paper now And add in the fact that Brian Hill you know Smith Quadri And this is really weak competition so todd. Gurley in a very good environment for fantasy. Scoring really isn't going to be facing a major challenge touches and I think that the third slash fourth round kind of grade or raking for him. I. That's the right place to put him if he if he were one hundred percent healthy to rely on US health and he had no confidence in that. This guy would be a first or second no problem but because he doesn't have that certainty but he isn't a great situation then he's the third or fourth round pick. Yeah I mean we see guys in this situation fail. Though like Brian Hill I punted off a bunch of money on fast when he had the role and Edo Smith hasn't been effective and really. I don't Devante Freeman. Had A couple of games he was really supported by fifty nine catches. I believe last year was the way that he got there in terms of value. But he wasn't exactly knocking the cover off the ball at either. So if girly is just an average player at this point in his career I have concerns too on top of him missing games and obviously like you know in a vacuum like you're gonna find better wide receiver prospects right like you know you can get Tyler Lockett here. You can probably get like. Aj Brown third fourth round. You could probably get like Adam feeling at this point third fourth round. Of course I would feel better about all those guys but then it goes a little bit back to what we talked about before with position scarcity where of course you can get a ton of wider series. You also get a ton of wide receivers round four five six also so the running backs are going to boost up in ADP Just because of the scarcity of the position so I get it on girly just scares me a lot like A lot but it's a scary pet. If it wasn't a scary Vicky be going in the first round for sure okay. Let's move to the jets decision to bring in Frank Gore a thirty seven year old. Frank gorgets a one year one million dollar contract. Obviously Adam gays knows Frank Gore. I believe they spent twenty eighteen together. In which frank four hundred and fifty six carries for Adam Gaze Average? Four point six yards per carry. That was two years ago. I mean he was thirty five now. He's thirty seven. I think the larger point here is that Adam gaze just hates aluminium. Bell and management friend of the show has written plenty About how much Adam gays didn't want on bail hasn't changed his offense on Levy on Bell? Skillset has a poor relationship with John Bell. And so now you know they draft Michael P Ryan Frank Gore in the mix. And then we have major concerns about living on bell schedule. The jets one of the toughest was brutal schedules. In the entire league you have levy on bell. Rb Twenty fifty fourth overall. What did you think of the jets bringing in Frank? Gore's factor not interesting. Weren't shark came out with his strength of schedule. I think that nobody does Strength OF SCHEDULE ANALYSIS BETTER THAN Warren Sharp. He came out and showed objectively based on her Projected opponent win totals via sports books. That the jets had like the third toughest scheduling league. And I just kind of like you know tweeted about that a little bit and then to jets fans who were like omnimedia known jets fans tweeted at me. No the jets schedule isn't tough Mike. Okay like objectively. It is difficult But anyways Yeah with regard to Frank Gorlic teams. Don't bring in Frank Gordon to ride the pine and be a mentor. And you know Adam gays number to sign levy on bell in the first place as you mentioned the New York Daily News as you mentioned to article kind of outlining how Adam. Geishas kept running. The same scheme always does in his first season with Levian Bell never tweaked it to adjust to Nobel sort of like patient got based Running style You mentioned that Frank Gore was with Adam gase in Miami yet Adam. Gazar gave him twelve touches per game I don't think it gives back in twelve touches per game with the jets but I know for sure that Levy on is averaging over twenty so yeah this was a huge blow delays on bell. I understand that. It seems like it shouldn't be that imposing when a thirty seven year old running back joins a backfield but when net thirty seven year old running back is probably going to get eight to eleven hundred per game. You know definitely a threat at the goal line and has familiarity with the coaching staff and is going to be able to come. And the ground running and coaches. Love playing frank. Gory always out kicks expectations. When it comes to usage because coaches just love him if you like they can trust them gets in there and puts people on their butts in pass protection And I'm also worried for the sake of on Belgium's about how this could be a bad offense again last offenses than Adam Gates led finished thirty first twenty six and twenty seven in publ. Outsiders Devi away. The offensive line has gotten better is still a major work in progress The both at the perimeter receivers are new guys in Denzel and Denzel MOMS and Rashad Perryman and then Amount that we're going to see a lot of check downs to Jamison crowder in the slot. Because that's the guy that Sam Darnold has a lot of familiarity with Sam darnold completed one pastor. Chris earned in since the two thousand eighteen season. So I just think this offense could be bad. Losing touch is this is situation to avoid. I bumped him way down but I am. I may even bummed down further just to keep him out of our range. You know we. We don't want later on on our teams this year. Yeah totally agree and I think I would prefer David Johnson Bell. Right now you have Lebanon. Rb Twenty David Johnson. Rb Twenty two. I've referred David Johnson. You also have Jonathan Taylor who will talk about a second. David Montgomery in that range. Go down a little bit more Mark Ingram Alkyl Land Leonard Fournette. So yeah I think there's room to avoid Lebanon pretty easy when you have those other options in that range of art. Speaking of that Colts Backfield. This one got a lot of traction. The community and I think people are overreacting bid to coach. Speak here. Of course. They're going to say that he can catch ten balls in a game. Of course they're gonNA say oh we're us. Nineteen hines on three downs. The fact of the matter is I know there's people out there who like in the lines to me. Is the third most talented back on this team? I understand he has a special skill set but Johnson. Taylor is obviously better. I think Marlin Mac is better so if you WANNA start talking about where does not seem hines fit to say. He's GonNa play in every passed down role in every two minute. Four minute drill. I'm not sure that's actually the way it's GonNa go and also know Philip rivers his. Check the ball down a ton in his career. He's also had as you pointed out he's also had Austin Equa. He's also had Danny woodhead. Melvin Gordon he's very good in the past game so I get it I think the name Hinds GonNa play. And that's concerning to me for Johnson Taylor Marlon Mac. But I don't think that he minds GonNa play nearly as much as the coach would. Have you believe what do you think about all the hype around? Neem hines right now and how it relates to jt. And and Mac. Yes so I don't think that the colts talking up. Nineteen hines a bid is necessarily decorative that nineteen. Heinz will be the next Danny Woodhead or donors froze Austin alongside Philip rivers strategic. It's a reminder that Jonathan Taylor Marlin Mac. These guys probably won't be very involved in the passing game and you know when I was putting together my top on fifty. I thought I was going to be higher than consensus on Jonathan Taylor. But I wasn't I had him. Rb Twenty one at the FCC best ADP for Jonathan Taylor. Right now is rb sixteen. That's quite aggressive for a running back that I think he's going to have some dominant mon moments as a runner as a rookie. And I think that he's going to give us some spiked week potential. And he's definitely not a guy that I'm afraid to draft but I don't think I'm going to be drafting. Him Rb Sixteen. I like him better where I have him. Jonathan Taylor at rb. Twenty one will take amid round shot on Marlon Mac. But the there's I think that nine hines is going to be involved enough that he's going to hurt the other players in the backfield's target and reception totals enough that kind of puts a lid on their website. Yeah and you know. I think it's certain situations you know. I've talked a lot about how talent is overrated but in certain situations like this one. I think it makes sense to say. Hey I want to bet on talent and I think. Jt's talent is just so far in a way above the other. Two guys in this backfield. So I feel good about. Jt winning a majority of the early down work for Marlin Mac. I feel good about him at least having a chance to take some pass down work but it's far from a lock there but yet you have. Jt Twenty Marlin Mac rb thirty one and he minds rb sixty two and I think a lot of people are getting excited about the him. Hines RB sixty two will ensure that you won't get him at all using Evans tears when you draft Speaking of pass catching backs. This one took me a little bit off garden and I don't think it's a big deal. Devante booker gets a one year. One Million Dollar. Deal with the raiders. You'll only fifty k. About is guaranteed. I don't think devante booker is any lock to make the team. But it's just another pass catching specialist R B that. The raiders are insistent on adding. I mean they resigned Jalen Rashard. They drafted Lynn Bowden. Who We talked about. Plenty in the wake of the draft and they'd bring Devante Booker. It's like they're so adamant that Josh Jacobs who only averaged two point zero seven targets per game last year is going to stay there and you know working on stuff for the raiders. I mean I think something around seven percent target share which is really small for a workhorse running back. That's just really rough for Josh Jacobs. So I think you're lower consensus on Josh. Goes Right now. Twenty third overall are be eleven to the devante booker. Signing mean anything to you at all just serves as another reminder that Passing Game Outlook is like a big concern This guy is already maybe one of the top five Best pure ball caring running backs in the league. The raiders actions last year in the raiders. Actions This off-season strongly suggests that they want us to focused on ball Kyrie and other guys like Jalen Rashard. We signed a two year. Seven million dollar deal the third round selection of win boating and then repeatedly calling him a running back after a lot of people thought he was gonNA be receiver in the League. Those guys are going to be the passing game backs for this team and devante. Booker gives them some insurance. You really has not panned out as a ball carrier in the league. But he knows that pass protect and he's you know adequate in the pass catching game and that's really the rule that he laid in Denver very lightly used when he was in there was for passing doubts. And I think that may be Jon. Gruden views that you know the delineation of roles backfield is a way to keep Josh Jacobs fresh for the early downs. And that's just what they see as being Josh Jacob. Strength focused early. Downs will give you breeders in the passing situations that make sense from a coaching standpoint. That is really gonNA hurt. Josh Jacobs fantasy value and make him very game flow dependent And really take a lot of weight from both his floor and ceiling week-to-week. Yeah I mean the thing that I want to be careful about when drafting I'm poking so many holes in in running back the promise that we can poke a hole in almost every running back. You know outside. I like the first. You know eight or nine guys so I want to be careful about it but yeah. It's certainly obvious. That the raiders and the pass game which Act Jacobs are not Nixon and there are particularly big holes to poke and that begins with how involved is going to be in the passing game. I mean if people play non people that's down only any or I don't think so they're playing. Vr NAFF yeah only the boomers are playing non non PBR. Fantasy still aren't. Let's get out of the running back position. I WANNA talk about little couple schedule things and I don't WanNa overrated schedule. We don't know how good these teams are going to be. We don't know what injuries are going to happen etc. But I think it's hard not to look at Daniel Jones schedule and at least be a little bit concerned especially with this opening month. Verse Pittsburgh at Chicago Verse San Francisco at the Rams and it starts getting a little easier but not great. I mean even if you look in the division the redskins front seven man. I mean we've laughed and mock the Redskins a lot. This redskins front. Seven has a lot of talent in their secondary but front seven is nasty. Eagles I think have made some good moves on defense giants all such the box. I think when it leaves most underrated defenses. They play at Seattle always tough place to play at Baltimore in impossible place to play so men. Daniel Jones is like one of my favorite Late round. Qb targets. I am a little bit shook by the schedule. Especially if you're in a one. Qb Season Longley where you have to happen for this first month. It's like God. Do I really WanNa play him in this first month. And then and then They come out and say that we're going to run. Jason Garrett's offense in God. I mean nobody wants to be associated with Jason. Garrod's offense although Dak was the qb three last year TB twelve in two thousand eighteen twelve in twenty seventeen so as long way of me asking you. Are you scared at all? Are you shook it all by the schedule for the giants in? What did you make of them saying? They're going to run. Jason Garrett's offense. I mean this has been concerned about the giants. And we've you know. We started to like kind of agree that we're going to be high on the giants this year. But we've known in the back of our minds. We mentioned it most times. That one of the biggest obstacles is Jason Garrett because we have really not seen him be a have a huge offensive role in a little while the last time we did. He was running one of the slowest pace offenses. A high one of the best offensive lines in the league and with one of the best running backs in whether it be DeMarco Murray or Ezekiel Elliott. And now he doesn't have and look. I think the giants offensive line has gotten better but I mean so expected to play at that kind of like they could just control games with their offensive line and with their with their running game as a unit and. I don't think to the giants are going to be able to do that. I mean you have Saquon Barkley. Who's not at sustaining reform? Five yard running back. You know every single time is more of a boom bust runner. He's been one of the lowest success rate running backs in the league and each of his first few seasons And I just that's that's a big concern. I think that the schedule is less of a concern If you break down these games one by one Amazon. It's not perfect. They have a tough schedule in the league They start out at home versus the steelers. You know week one. I could see that being shootout. Then they go at soldier field in week two which looks tough on paper. But you know you're playing in Chicago at in September like it's GonNa be warm. This is the best possible time to be playing like a gift and then week. Three they get San Francisco San Francisco. Richard Sherman's a year older than problems. At Right Cornerback. All throughout last season And you know they weren't as good in defense on defense down the stretch and this game is going to be played at the giants at a home game for the giants and then week. Four going out to the rams. The Rams Lost Wade Phillips their defense. They lost a ton atoll on Defense. They have like a couple of good players. Left on defense at this point I'm not afraid at all of the Redskins I know. They have a good front seven but their secondary. I think you tear it up. Not can't say I'm worried about the eagles yet you know so. I think the Jason Gary is a bigger obstacle right now than the schedule with that said. You really don't want to be drafting Daniel Jones in a season long week because of that tough schedule because he's not going to help you early on just going to take your take up a roster spot in all likelihood by week four. Jones GonNa be on a lot of waiver wires in all likelihood in best ball which were really focused on right now. Just because of the people aren't drafting season-long teams yet In Best Ball take them. No I I think you continue to take them you. Don't worry about you. Know the the order of the opponents But in season-long you do because you have to make those week-to-week decisions early in the season. Yeah share and you can read an Evans sneaky. Stacks of article. He'll talk way more about the giants there and also I would note that encourage people I think. If you're playing season-long you want to be more hardcore. Try to get your league mates to play to try to play super flex. It adds layer of depth. And we're GONNA BE RELEASING OUR SUPER FLEX to be rankings US shortly here into the draft Kit Evan currently in the top one fifty has Dana Jones. Qb Ten between Carson Wentz and Matthew Stafford are. Let's go to the big dog I saw in your Best Ball draft. You landed the Big Dog Derrick Henry with your first round pick. And here's a reason for optimism on Derek. There's no news year. I just want to talk about his schedule for a second because while most players I think it's kind of overrated thing about their schedule and I pretty much ignore it. I mean there can raise very very game flow dependent so it is good for Derrick Henry. The Tennessee Titans who were just a mediocre team. I think our favorite in ten games. It's good for the Titans Pittsburgh and Buffalo in Chicago three of the toughest events. They'll face at home overall according to Warren Chartres Shards data. They have the second softest schedule. So I think it sets up well for Derrick Henry to stay involved to get twenty plus touches a game To have a lot of scoring opportunities you just want him to be favored in most of his games and it looks like that is the way it will be avenue. Have HIM RB seven eleventh overall? I know you talked to in the best ball. Article the draft article about deviating from your top fifty ranks in part. Because you need running back so bad and although we probably prefer Julio in a vacuum Derrick Henry once you factor position eligibility may be the pick over Julio so talk to people a little bit about that and what you think a Derrick Henry schedule TAT looks like another big year coming for the big of the fact that worn sharp as the titans facing the second easiest schedule again suggest. They're going to be in a lot of positive game script. That's where Derrick Henry eats. You know the his Derek Henry's career yards per carry average when the titans are leading is five point eight almost six yards per carry. This dude is averaging when the titans are playing with the League Is Four point six when they are trailing I think it will also going to see. Derrick Henry get his receptions into the twentieth year eighteen last year. I think he's going to get into the twenty s this year. Thirty would be would be a godsend but no Dion Lewis. The only theoretical backfield competition. Is Darren Evans? Who IN EVANS? But he's a rookie out of abolition states And I think that you know the that was just the first year that Arthur Smith the OC. Who I'm really high on Eric Eager. He's really From PF is really high on our third. A Smith and I think this is going to be their second year together. I think the Derek. Ken will be a little bit more involved in the passing game. And just a little bit. I mean you get us like ten or twelve more receptions. That's a big step forward. For A guy who has monster touchdown upside monster rushing yardage upset really monster yards reception of side because of what this dude can do in the screen game. Don't nobody WANNA tackle cannery forty yards. Downfield don't talk about decision to take Henry over. Julio in your best ball draft you can read the article for a better explanation. But it's it just really came down to a physician scarcity and I wound up getting Julio Jones When when it came back to me so that were out in optimal fashion. Yeah Yeah for sure and and position scarcity. Some will be hitting on play as summer goes on all right. I WanNa talk about Sean Jeffrey. Because you know the famous can be random with a report from Davis and actually no. I played tennis against him. He's a good guy. He's a huge eagles fan though like any runs the eagles website so he wrote something like eagles big expectations for our Sean. He's GonNa be out there crushing it. It's like of course that's what Dave's Madonna is GonNa Right. I don't think he has any inside information on. Alshon JEFFERIES LEADS. Frank Injury other reporters like my k. From NJ DOT COM said. Hey hold on. There's still good chance. Alshon Jeffery year on up and if jj go whiteside had actually shown up at all last year. Sean. Jeffrey could have already been cut or traded or or something else so I do not like Alshon much at all and I think if Alshon opens the year on pop you're going to see big. Adp JUMPS FOR JALEN. Rieger for to Sean Jackson. I'd like to be out in front of that. And maybe if you think. Jj a site can do can do anything they have. Greg Ward their markey's Goodwin but it's thin there so you have Jalen Rieger one twenty three over y sixty one alshon one. Nineteen overall wiser. Fifty-seven to Sean Jackson. Of course you had one huge game before he got hurt last year hundred and thirty four overall wide receiver. Sixty three. It's really difficult to parse right now. What's going on with Philadelphia's target shares but I kind of think if you pull out Alshon at and kind of try to edged higher on Rieger and onto Sean Jackson. That's kind of where I wanna be on the eagles. But what do you make of what's going to happen with the Eagles? Pass catching right now. Because it's tough thing to sort out. I think one thing to notice of the Eagles did exercise. Alshon for twenty twenty that guaranteed him nine point nine million so that suggests that they have some confidence I think in his recovery is not battle thirty years old. It seems like he's thirty four but you know he's he's thirty And then you mentioned the article that suggested that alshon Jeffery would have a really big role this year. I just I. I haven't seen any good evidence that he's going to be going on reserve pup Jalen Rieger is a really tough guy to rank in redraft because right now the eagles have a ton of bodies and there isn't necessarily a clear path to him JR opportunity for him so I think that'd be what he becomes is a bet on talent. Pick and you're betting that his talent earns that opportunity US right. Now you have Jalen Regan. Was their first round. Pick Shawn Jackson Alshon Jeffery. The other two rookies that they drafted John. Hightower skins both burners will pretty good prospects on day three. They acquired market goodwin from the forty niners. Jj OR SEGA whiteside draft in the second round. Last year Greg Ward might still be their best slot option And then they run them. The most two tight end sets in the league so and that means that they're going to have a lower percentage of three receiver sets. You're going to have to receivers on field so I think that Jalen Rieger probably just best profiles in in his first year as an inconsistent splash. Play kind of guy. I think he's a really good best ball vic Mike I would. I would take him over to Sean Jackson. Alshon jeffery straight up in best ball But I think that I'll probably end up shuffling these guys a million times before we get into Early September yeah. I mean Doug Peterson Saturday. Said we don't know about Jalen. We got to see him on grass. You know seeing him on zoom it is not enough and I'm sure they can say the same thing about Alshon health those into another rookie Levinsky Chenault the Jaguars came out and said hey you know. Of course he's GonNa wide receiver I but he's also going to play some F. You know the move tight ends by. He's also GonNa play some wildcat quarterback actually believe he's actually I was gonNA play some some running back for us. The thing that scares me on this is like guys pegged as gadget guys are just like not that exciting for me in fantasy because people always overrate. How much of an impact? That's going to be in terms of fantasy scoring getting like a few wildcats naps. Game is not going to shift enough for me. You do not have levees cushion all in your top one fifty at all. I agree with that way. Think his role coming out of the gate is going to be in this. Jaguars offense I have no idea the uncertainty lens to him falling outside of the top one fifty but I mean if you just if if you just look at la viscous as a player. He rushed for eighty yards and seven touchdowns in Colorado. We return blocked punt for a touchdown. The had one career kickoff return. He returned fifty four yards. You end up in the wildcat offset in the Backfield Eagle lineup as wing tight end On screens and and jet sweeps so lou viscous in all. I think could actually pose another threat to Leonard for nets touches. And that's kind of the way that I'm viewing him is not necessarily as an independent guided. I'm targeting and fantasy outside a dynasty leagues. What as a guy that could be another on of presented other red flag for Leonard? Fournette and by the way is eighty is still like Is like early third round right now. The jags also recently signed on Chris. Thompson's reunites with Jay Gruden. Who is now their offense coordinator Chris Thompson stops. It can really damage a receiving production for other members of the of the backfield that he plays in and Leonard for nets. Career high. Seventy catch seventy six catches last year really carried him from a fantasy. Standpoint wasn't scoring touchdown. I don't think he's GonNa score many Tyson this. You think they're going to be a bad team bad offense so this I think Lewis cushion all is just another reason to Fade Leonard. Four that certainly anywhere near his early round. Eps Can't believe that before taking him a bit. And I think he can still get cut They would actually save four and a half million that they could roll over onto next year's cap if they if they cut Leonard Fournette. Oh yeah totally totally agree and also I have added problems on Leonard Fournette. I mean he's GonNa show up after being on the trade block on the Cup block all off season. He's not gonNA BE Happy Camper. I don't think and that's always been an issue for Leonard anyways. Okay the semi walking article man. I I know you read it. I read it. I mean this was one of the wildest things I've ever read. I assume you read it right. Yes okay this. Is Tyler of bleacher report on Sammy Watkins? And you just Google Sammy. Watkins bleacher report it. It'll come up if you guys have not read. You guys have to read this. It's tough for me to even describe what's in there but after reading most people would say Sammy. Watkins like quite literally out of his mind. I'm not sure I would say that. Like for certain like he's questioning things that no one knows the answer to write like what happens after we die like wide things happen like he doesn't mention the simulation theory but it seems like he's like alluding to it a little bit. I don't know I guess my point on football though is it's not overly surprising. Maybe after reading this that he's been like unreliable on the field right and I don't know maybe it's jitters stretch to make this correlation but like you know I've obviously thoughts and you walk ins. It's been some amazing amazing spots during his time with the chiefs and he's just like not shown up at all for unknown reasons and maybe he's just unreliable off the field and it makes him hard to produce relatives role on the field. And maybe I'm stretching it too much. Maybe I'm reading into it too much but it is what it is seeing. Watkins has not been consistently productive despite playing in one of the best offenses we've seen in the NFL in the last decade. Sammy Watkins. You have him fifty five one seventeen overall unfortunately because then Watkins's back you have Meco Hartman not ranked in the top one fifty I don't know man any takeaways from the Sammy Watkins article and is there any upside left on on Sami seat? There has to be upset when you play in. Kansas City is just hard to pay where he's going. Yeah I think the part that stood out to me in the article was how Sammy. Watkins basically admitted to a drinking his way out of Buffalo. Yeah now you know partying. He said he partied every single night. And he would you know and then when he started to get injured Late medical appointments. He would sometimes miss them all together and that contributed to the wear on his body and that of course was during a time when he was battling a lot of injuries early in his career. He's just he's just not the same player anymore from an athletic standpoint that he was coming out of Clemson and I think when a lot of times when receivers body starts change either they make an adjustment in their game to compensate for that sort of like pitcher pitcher will lose velocity. And you're maybe we'll come back with something better. With a receiver can compensate become a better route runner Cetera et CETERA. Sammy Watkins. I think just not that and sometimes I wonder what it would be like to get a thirteen million dollar signing bonus at age twenty one and how I would handle it. That's a lot of responsibility for anyone that agent. He's still twenty six. I mean I feel like I was still an idiot at twenty six WANNA make bad decisions with thirteen million dollars signing bouts. Yeah Oh for sure I mean yeah I don't let's say I blame him at all. I and we should note. He had a really good super by just using a combination of all. This has led to not being athlete that he used to be what one thing they point on the article. Tyler done point now is that Andy. Reid loves him Andy. Reid seems to seems to get him. And that scares me bit for Meco Harmon. I noticed you didn't have coal in top one fifty. A lot of people are excited about Michael there. Rumblings that they're special teams coach. Said Hey I don't know if I'm going to have me call on returns this year because his offensive role might be expanding. I don't know though. Did you consider putting me Colin the top one fifty? Yeah I mean. He's on the fringe targets. Right now I fear that what's going to happen is a lot of like what happened last year where you can talk yourself into getting excited about him because we know is that big playability but the opportunity just isn't going to be there He had some moments when Tyreek hill was injured. But other than that I mean he was primarily. Just return specialist would. Flash IS BIG playability every once in a while. You know kind of get you excited and then leave you hanging because the opportunities just were not and I don't think all the sudden opportunities in skyrocket and that's a problem for sure okay. Talk about maybe when my favorite members of last year's team preseason one of Probably the best. Uefa at least from his perspective. And that's precedent Williams unfortunately tore his ACL in November It's hard to get a real read on his rehab but there was a report from a pretty reliable. I believe Miami Herald saying that Dolphins believe he's on track for week one. They're hopeful that he'll be ready for week one. If so it'll be pressing Williams devante Parker on the outside Albert Wilson in the slot I'm excited about the dolphins offense as long as Ryan Fitzpatrick is under center. Like I WANNA to be above market on Preston on Devante on Mike Sticky especially my concern is that they go to to at some point and they're not playing as wild in the style that they'll play under Ryan Fitzpatrick similar to the way that the bucks play last year. Were Jamison just breeds these wild shootout games? I'm not sure that'll happen. Would too. But you do have precedent atop one fifty at one eighteen overall. We did get you know reasonably positive report on his knee. General thoughts on the dolphins past game. Do you think how long do you think to Will be staying on the sideline Just I think that he's going to be on the sideline for as long as Ryan. Fitzpatrick is performing at a high level. And we know that Ryan. Fitzpatrick is a guy with high peaks in very very low valleys. Temporary is GONNA end up throwing the ball to the other team. And they're gonNA have to go to to address. It's it's really tough to predict when that be there were. I'm medical opinions. That have to sits out his entire first season he would become at much less. Risk of that degenerative Really in his hip hip information as being something that could threaten his career on the line So there you know. There is some incentive there for the dolphins to wanted to keep him on the bench. And especially you know. East probably going to be limited from a practice standpoint And you know during training. We'll find out about all that but just specifically as it pertains suppressor Williams. I mean is a young guy coming off on November ACL tear. The dolphins did not make any significant additions at the wide receiver. Position was going to their draft the only receiver that they drafted Malcolm. Perry was actually a running quarterback navy not draft and they had a ton of graphics that was only technically receiver that they drafted and then they did not make any significant Free Asian editions. I think it's going to be devante. Arkan festive Williams outside in Albert Wilson or Allen hearns in the slots. I think that's going to be there. Three receiver set and in that scenario wrestling Williams. Playing eighty percent of the snaps. No Yeah and and Mike To. They didn't obviously didn't reining competition. Michael Keyes A slot and split wide rate is just so so so good down. The stretch last year was really strong for Ryan Fitzpatrick. What one thing. I should note about Devante. Parker is that I've seen him go pretty early. Drafting a pick up. We have him in relation. Su Eighty again. This is via fantasy MOJO DOT com. They have a great day on. Adp This was such a boss. Italy knows him going really early fast. F. FCC ADP he's Wide Receiver Twenty Four. You have wide receiver thirty two. Yeah so I'm well below him on this we're not GONNA be getting him address this year. A big concern is that okay. We have an eight-game sample of Press Williams playing an eight game sample of not playing a park Fifty yards per game with festival Williams in there and over one hundred yards per game. We just Williams out. So that was a big thing shifted the you the balance of power in that ask like it started starting to look like wrestling Williams. You remember we love him in. Preseason you miss a ton of money he comes back. He's starting to like emerge the dolphins number one receiver tears. Acl devante Parker spikes. I think that people are overvaluing. Devante Parker on that spike that was largely derived from restrooms injury. Yeah Yeah I mean Devante Parker though I think you could make case from a raw talent perspective fit with Ryan Fitzpatrick. You know is really really good. So I have no problem with Devante Parker. Yes Evans. Said he's GonNa be expensive. Especially when you consider how many wide receivers there are available to us. In those mid rounds the biggest feedback. We got from last week's episode which I know a lot of people always like to talk about one of the favourite our favorite episodes to do as the outliers. They said we didn't spend enough time explaining why. Evan was low. Way Lower than market on during Hopkins. Evan has the Andrea Hopkins Twenty First Overall Wide Receiver. Ten behind guys. Like how Ridley Adam Feeling Juju Amari the consensus on John? Jay Hopkins is around wide receiver. Three wide receiver four. So that people need to know Evan. The rationale behind Deandre Hopkins. I know we've talked about it some Here and there. But the rationale behind your Hopkins as the Wide Receiver. Ten so to me versus. This isn't that low And having him as late I trump in its up early sector round pick and it's ten receiver to me that that's not low. I think it's right on point for for where he should be. We've talked extensively over the years. Really how wide receivers? Changing team should be red flagged version with the new team. Odell Beckham thoughts at a game last year. He's doctrine less practice. Time because of Rona virus. Less time for Kyle. Murray to build a report with Sandra Hopkins and Deandre Hopkins game kind requires more timing and rhythm in chemistry than most receivers because of how we meant Hopkins wins as shoulder. Contested catch timing based receiver. And you know Shawn Watson had that at Clemson with Mike Williams who of course went onto the chargers to hat immediately in Houston. I think that was a big part of both of their success. And that can take some time to develop with the new quarterback and I think in Arizona John Hopkins not necessarily GonNa run the highest percentage routes in Clip Cain theme. I think that's more likely to be Christian Kirk and Larry Fitzgerald on Interior routes These target numbers that does Shawn Watson was getting in Houston where Judas absolutely massive. And they're going to be difficult to match in Arizona But I think it sort of how last year played out with Odell Beckham in sort of Yonder Hopkins being in the Dow Beckham role and Jarvis. Landry being in the Christian Kirk Role I think at their respective. Adp's I like Christian Kirk a lot better than I do at the under Hopkins. I mean I'm not GonNa Treat deandre Hopkins as this lock. I think he's he's the wide receiver three behind. Michael Thomas and Davante Adams immediately. Be just like irresponsible. Yeah no I I like the take and also I think there's a Like a misconception out there that because cliff kings runs for. Why did they just throw the ball on every play and they're going to be on the league leaders in run in a pass run ratio? I don't know that's going to be the case. I think they want to run the ball and they ran it really effectively last year as you outlined plenty where do you think the cardinals will end up in terms of like neutral situation? Pass run ratio whether just gonNA run the ball a little bit. More just by nature. The fact that their quarterback is a. You know a dual threat. That's bike they're rushing attempts first of all and then they're just good at running the football. I mean this offense you know with the The the large lying splits their offense blind. Got a little bit better. Re-signed Marcus Gilbert Yogurt. They Stole Josh showed. A lot of people thought was going to be a first round. Pick early in the third round Know they're getting back. Some guys that were injured on offensive line last year and they were good with like not. Even the running game was good with not even offensive. Line play you know. Which would was pretty cool to see last year. Their number two again. Football outsiders rushing. Devi. La Behind only Baltimore. So I mean you know cliff. Kingsbury comes from the Mike Leach The Mike Leach background and Mike Leach his take on offensive balance is not run past ratio. It is a get the ball in the hands of your playmakers at an equal distribution and that does not suit yonder getting hundred seven targets. I think that they're going to spread out. They have they have other. Playmakers are GONNA get the alter Kenyan drake you know Um Christian Kirk India Bell. I think should have a bigger role this year. And then you know. The corpse of Larry Fitzgerald catch a pass on third and to everyone should have But you know I think the I mean they're going to get the hands in the ball and I think the Gender Hopkins is not going to get. I think like one hundred and twenty hundred thirty targets a lot more realistic than one fifty to one. Seven Yep totally agree. I'm totally fine with the take. I like it only one. I disagree with that would take the driver's over cavalry lead. But I prefer Lynn Juju. Mari as well art. That's GonNa do it for this news. Based edition of the show be sure to head to establish a run DOT com. Check out our drafted again. 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NFL Fantasy Week 3 Waiver Wire

The Gridiron Guide

34:58 min | 3 d ago

NFL Fantasy Week 3 Waiver Wire

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Let's dig right into it. Waiver wire ads and undo this was positional position is the most important was running back Order al packs running back receiver Designation primarily. I think leonard using running back right now as the one area art last week. He definitely outplayed. Might davis he's only owned in about fifteen percent of the leaves right now If i was going to be down allowing game. So he's definitely pass catching bag. Any any any average more yards per might davis loza yup and hooghly tell us last week or at among young couple other handcuffs them twenty. Two weeks in a row is had nine touches both get at least nine both games nine touches week last week twelve week. One definitely no. I wouldn't folk apart but definitely involved in the fall behind early. Atlanta falcons team throw tone atlanta saw. I'm on board with that Another guy just He's probably owned his own in more than fifty. Percents tony power. You've seen him. You know the best running back in dale's y you can. I don't think so. But he's a must own player. If you have zeke you gotta get in. If you don't know we told you all preseason if you have take power late but trying to get powered justin. Casey goes down Alison lasts less with dave definite thought. The ball you kinda saw that in the last year i four games are thought while lot Last week i was the game plan. Wasn't the reward Temps front this day. They ran the ball. A lot of the head about fourteen carries each so. If i mean. I mean apollo is one of the better back running backs league. He could probably start on a handful of teams very talented player looking at him on the field. You know it's not like he's playing more than zeke. Or starting over zeke. No they haven't both field together. So that's you know. It's similar like aaron jones. Jamal williams the past couple years. You've seen in green bay so yes definitely like it. obviously not. If you're zeke owner but still politics performing and obviously don't want to trade him if you're zeke owner but you should have listened to listen dress no running back for you. Tie johnson Michael carter timeshare He does get a little bit more. Pass as the the revson michael carter on. They both at twelve to aquarius Starting technical leave that backfill. I do the jessica a little bit better. Obviously against the new england. Bill belichick destroyed quarterbacks so throughout game early to really see the benefit. But they're gonna have their day when they get some big areas but this is kind of a of a steam running back to the bench See did you see the lava. Injuries happened this week. Lot of guys are going down. So you're gonna decent. He's he's not. Owned a lotta presenters leaving eight percent pretty low using so owners. But he's getting a lot more use now go with impact on this kind of piggyback permanent. Mccarter car because we were talking to him early in-draughts step increase from twenty five percent. Forty five percent on the to. Hopefully somebody come if they did. Hopefully you snag them or if not you know after the way i would put if my if my car is available i would put in union or you're earning thirty percent of your budget on 'em offer these other pollard also available. I'd put eighty percent of your budget on. Johnston do anything on them. Quarter al and tie johnson. You know like something a little bit but not too much to ten percents Anything but this is one of those ads. Especially got injury Organized oh yeah so. I'll keep it in a few here. Just rattle few off model On the cold hammock union thirteen inch snaps last week. Among week one wandering off he was a healthier walk but marlon. Mac just to handcuff. Jonathan taylor obviously name hines. He's passed back carlos hyde jacksonville. He saw his snap. Count regress from wigwam against simpson keith. No gift teams right. You know if you had james robinson or if you need a running back just in case something fails game phone. Or he's leaving. No i mean. I think james robinson is the all purpose bac. Hide is more strictly. You know the rusher. But now i don't know what happened. Why the sweet. One but alexander madison. That will back him. Kinda get dinged up multiple times throughout the game. You've seen madison last year. When he started he didn't do the greatest. But i think he's good good morning premier handcuffed if he's available definitely pick them up. I don't think they'll get him time. I think he came. Back from injury. Suffered but yet Definitely madison pick them less on petra. Bon chris evans on the bengals. You see the workload. Joel nixon's getting I think it's getting over. Eighty eighty five percent of the teams touches. He's top three in the nfl rushing yardage so far. A joe mixing was doing great. We all know his injury. History chris evans rookie outta michigan. Good all purpose back. And i think if joe mixing does go down he would be the main beneficiary not so much appear on officer. The veteran kind of presence. They've had for years ago and again those guys. Yeah couple of bucks not even. I'm gonna have a couple of guys are that are just you know steamers for sure Alice gallons of from the seahawks. You saw She was his name. He's on go down obviously Chris carson's have injury history as well. So it's kind of one of those things. If you have chris carson counter anka few alex columns kerryon johnson. Forty niners I was the main. They always had injury issues. It seems like his like what mitchell came out. one play. they put in hasty hasty hurt. It put in sermons Cussin' one play. I think the play each so you know. Obviously you're i know they have a motion. I are jeff wilson junior in iowa on johnson without on the squad expected to be you know expedite the press. And he's not terrible back when he's when he's healthy kerryon johnson. You know we don't know the severity of mitchell's injury. Obviously some of the concussion protocol protocol. I think already ruled hasty alley a couple of weeks. O obviously monitoring choice but still carry on zero risk and you could get a higher war with that san francisco starting running away and then look out. They are bringing in a couple of names the marine in triumph. I'm blanking out on who they are but again i don't think they bring him in. They may not be active since just signed. Carry on but keep an eye out on l. banfield. We'll definitely keep you posted on instagram facebook and twitter so Couple of other guys. You know again probably not available. But i'm still gonna name zach mosque devon single terry single-tier looks like you know had the lead by little bit. But you saw zach moss. Come in and get two touchdowns if one goes down other ones value cannibals. Bullets will definitely make a move on them. James white. you've seen twelve catches in two games on thirteen targets. So he's back to the fantasy weapon that he was. Tom brady so definitely. We told you about him last week. Definitely made sure to get him latavius. Marianne tyson williams both baltimore running back so he saw them both pretty solid again on upset win over the chiefs of either of them are available. Definitely snag when a dumb. I got two hundred if name your boy. But she didn't. Jd mckissick arabs. Always talking about him. He's roughly thirty five percent owned. Yeah you should be available. After the huge thursday night game he had. So y'all say by naming him. I wanna see wimmer game with a talent anneke. Because fitzpatrick he wasn't in a game plan. No heineke smith's more. Asthma more more conservative. So i actually like it a lot to be have gibson. Yep he's only thirty five percent on thoroughly probably put decent on but out the i wouldn't put more than like eight percent not too much at all last guy again. Another guy named last week. Probably my favorite player on this whole entire lists that we're gonna go over today. Kenneth gain while on the eagles you saw magana involved in the game plan. You might have thought because the blowout out week one. That that's why i saw a lot of time. No he's still involved. He still the guy he's still producing can again will get used to him. Better pick them up. And i put i put in one of my leagues. Didn't need earning. Like i put like sunny five percent my budget on last week when you go i- overpaid for him. Because somebody like ten percent. But i wanted him. I want him to bed. Canada game all sanders injury street. And he's out. He's already over over boston Oh for sure. Easily past ten so be sure to take him if he didn't listen to me last week are both actually behind him. Yeah listen to us this week go kind of name will switch to receiver. I this guy. I didn't. I didn't bring them up last week last week. One was he you know. Does we to occasionally osborne The wide receiver on minnesota vikings only only three percent of the lease right now And he has a crazy amount of target share when he's when he runs on the field Decent amount of time An empty lends a distance as down this year. I think Would be aroused. You saw the first play test on the ad against against the the arizona cardinals so occas- wannabe with target for sure this week. All right kitty. deifies plays last week. I didn't posted. i should have both. We'll be back to this week. So wednesday for defense players Again guiding last week starting shepherd said against his name zones favorite target. Hopefully listen to nine catches for like ninety. Five yards led the team targets. Shepherd is the rec- would own for the giants out care if ingram's are back of the only thing that may shepherd a little bit is one saquon his fully healthy and fully implemented that game plan. He might get some of those short catches that you see getting up a still. I don't care downs day. Dan's favorite target is sterling shepherd. He's look from a every week so npr formats. I would be happy starting shepherd weekly. Yeah i wouldn't even be afraid of saito Correct yeah that's like a minor like no if anything that but a shepherd Kenny as a big. Play guy shepherds consistent go-to guy for danny dimes. Onslow i would put if you need a white up. Seventy five percent of your budget on alford another preview for his rondell more. He's still on the on in. Forty five percents leaks The offenses this is gonna be you know he. He let his his last week. I don't think Team targets again. This week coming up on the four four targets i think the defense got catering towards him but is is hopkins rondo more. Chris goes Mainly as dream aged. Greenville with action. But again elsa for game plan on the defense side Aged greens on the field mornings allies ontario blocker metro receiving but But they run they. Run eleven personnel. They allowed for receivers talia three and four four days a running a more Mris wasn't have eight targets in lebanon seeming reception yards and touchdowns as a rookie so pretty good so yep. He's got a lease league in yards after. Catch the ad and he's got fourteen yards a game on fourteen yards. After the catch average will catch four yards more than the next best Last week if you remember that christian kirk i sit them more boom not him coming damning bom. I mean i right now. I know we both we both kirk over more than i do. Think kirk is still be. The guy had more points but in offense as seen so far you can be wrong. Can't go wrong with with the way keiler is fire and slinging around so now the guy i've set on preseason i said last week darnall mooney. Roughly fifty percent owned a still the guy six for fifty ish porn. I'm not giving. That's six for fifty about ten points. Vr didn't matter who came in the game fields or dolan moody was still consistent. Yeah big fan of looney danica more listening to previous obsolete. If you wanna hear what. I say about five Ninety seven snaps and arab signed by eight percent jumps. Oh movies definitely out there. A lot has more air yards than Allen robinson and he obviously had more targets last week We could probably expect to see fills this week Gotten deliver though knee injury now. Let's i don't think quarterback affects his plan. All the you've spent more deep passes with field. Yeah more yards. But that might cater more to robinson the moon. Moody's a speed sir Nobody jamison crowder. He's on for example leagues but he fought through covert. This fast. He was a writer so on. But you saw wrexham barrios. Get eight targets. jameson crowded. He's playing jameson proper role Kinda corey davis Again i think it was more. Let's game plan against the the patriots on gm's acropora the slot receiver suspects in get those targets that result from last year easily with zero for the jets past couple years. Was that sam much. Still james rouse a pretty good receiver especially the slot. So i was like flat. Receivers might go thing is said last week. Same guy says better than corey davidson. We'll be better than Elijah more rookie for the jets. Five catches twelve targets. Yourself are not the best. start with. Rookie zack wilson. Up at four forty seven years. Last week he played more snaps in court by four. Which don't matter why receiver one too. You know sometimes they get off a block and other tartar but still alleged more. I think his second half potential outweighs anybody we said on maybe don't have always round. They're more even so anybody said so far. So big penalized former pick him up and Teams was the only presentative. I i couldn't find. I don't know i don't right there just for all of them. I try. But if i if i should use yahoo. Espn cbs sleeper. What the platform. I don't know it's not over fifty now Guys out of either woodshed daming daming brown brown. Oh yeah dina me divers full team if a football team We haven't seen grow samuel yet. Don't were bussey. Curtis samuel And obviously heinecke is a is a check down guys though we saw a lot of targets will terry macomer week one or week to run back but this is kind of on dark throws you know. We see a lot of seeing a lot of injuries this year. So if you if you heard Receiver and you can't get none of the guys we named when i decided to take put dark Libro some next. I'm not done in all these dining but dining as he played one my daddy didn't work out they will but so yeah. All right Pity on receiver. So i got five more few repeat customers. Obviously a tim. Patrick still only about twenty five percent roster grazing on the year. He's got seven catches on eight targets with two touchdowns all you've seen the consistencies tumble games for Four catches three inches but tim. Patrick you sauce on have a huge game last week. But patrick still at the touchstone alec patrick and you know put a little bit of cash. Not too much at all but a hope. Good consistent playing jury duty comes back from heinkel spring. Henry ragas boomer bus play. You saw him some bus week one. He somboon last week. So if he's available somebody cut him after spending decent draft capital on a pick him up. Be careful starring like we said he's gonna boom some weeks. He's gonna bus other so carefully there. But henry rugs on terms marshall guy named last week. He's got nine targets Six catches for only forty forty three yards on the season. So i think as the season goes on. You'll see those numbers increase you'll see is a you catch yards per. Catch it yards per catch. Every go struggling. Struggling that yankee will yours for. Have you'll see the arquette's go up against marshals explosive by receiver argue is best receiver with berlin twenty eighteen on a team that had just jefferson angel martinez so Whatever we'll see but made them last week again again this week probably again. Next week of his ownership doesn't go Anand's boy you're mentioned last week. Exact pascual zach zach basketball. We've got three ts. Nine catches on eleven targets in two games obviously monitoring wants to situation if wants her. No no but if wanted then he's clearly got Good chemistry paschal. Especially in the red zone got three. Tv's yeah and that's under one name. Because i don't expect to see wants this week Pity as sprained both ankles around here. Got to st rogers have said all right. Let's go at your boy. Marvin jones junior is probably not available on. Obviously you know he's ownership over that available to the show and that's twenty targets two touchdowns in two games. I think travel only have fourteen completions last week but started a game so see char kinda now boomer buzzed. Some up games in down games are joe. He'll be a little more consistent. Is the route route route trie. Yup the Yep that's all your quarterback. I got a few derek man. Fifty fifty four percents I think he's leaving early. Yards yard is right now. I think so. Shocking is registered. Do much we want. So i guess i can talk about what we got now. He's there's a lot of deep boss This year. I think peyton peyton show that group playbook little bit for for car. Let them than you toss More deeper deeper routes only four touchdowns on the year so far but Respect that the girl low bid for sure and he played pittsburgh in baltimore. Two two supposedly tough defenses In the schedule amid he gets he gets twice Stop the past that well. Nc twice in an obviously the charges members will suffer but schedule is chicago. The semi this we still but he's doing good has up to a great start. You know looks at their car that we've nursing before currently the eighth best player overall rec- refi six so i'll select car vasser shaq known that's shocking Take water is not so much shockingly doing well. But he's doing good Some shock chocolates. Sam darnold with spectrum. Kinda be obviously much better situation but both of them are excelling in their new new looping queens new face different. This is a joke down so the about both players that they have. The weapons on bridgewater has younger weapons. Obviously darnold. Donor has some weapons with these more christian. Mccaffrey you've got the software. Marshall is upper is rookie Again that's right Marshall robbie anderson the they have the the weapons and what Sam donaldson play car Job ready Yeah it's pretty good. Play caller so about setting quarterback tend to toll range. Yeah But that's far ahead of where there were getting drafted and they both excelled in the schedule. Think bridgewater's got a couple of games. Yeah jets baltimore pittsburgh they just the jets the jets but again he plays Get cancer twice or passing. Defense is not that great Donald houston dale week. So if you need a quarterback you probably. I don't know if you were starting warm sir. You weren't starting tyrod taylor. Whatever i'll just good saul kovacs. Teddy bridgewater sam darnold Two rookies Your thunder to rookie so watch for trae lance that come in soon. I think a junji did not play that well at all last week. They still got the win. But just look you know. Maybe he's the speculative and if you are struggling at quarterback just picking while under bench out because if he does come in and he's a great offensive situation. And you've seen running quarterbacks of be very successful in fantasy second guy. Justin fields boy antidote went down with on a severity yet but You know he aboard a major knee injury but fields Ten russia's for only thirty yards and sixty passing yards. Also the bengals comeback didn't play good at all but now is the moment i area your immune a game. Yeah taking a game start as much different than the as yet. Become an have Preparation operation than being the backup. But i will say both. Those guys are still players to stash on the bench. You definitely have one of the bridgewater. Sam donaldson case. Your may quarterbacks. On a by. But i wouldn't mind. Washington have rushing three quarterbacks. Kind of sas for rookies got got the wrong guy. Like to talk about with tyler. Heineke only eight percent of the lease right now. Dr. throw would put putting budget on kind of one of those pickups. It's especially if you you know you'd have been arrested in tyrod taylor and i some people might have been roster fitzpatrick outline here or wednesday. That fisher. He liked heineke more on daniel jones. Do i like tiny. Daniel says jones on twenty percent. He had a great monday night. Thursday night so dan john sneaky athletic as we saw. Obviously is this something about jason garrett. I don't want to take tests any other quarterback play columnists suspect for sure. But just wanna throw it out there. Disease of heineke. Buck does as if quarterbacks i sound one tight end you have anytime. Aren't austin hooper for the brown source. Landry go down. He's expecting this multiple weeks with a sprained. Believe jay might not be back. It'll be jay status of hooper's roughly roster leading theme targets. Even if odell is out and landry out of touch. Cleveland wideout outgo. Go hooper than i would even go harrison bryant orange joke both of them get extended playing time obviously a lot of runoff into but still hooper's Own if if odell plays are if he doesn't need a tight end over. I'm circling home strong because i need a ton of minimum only. Maybe it's up sixty six streaming defenses. You know this because year may besides carolina. I think girls last week. Yup new orleans last week that are one of them carolina. Those those two. I still don't think that roster we know living always rostered every year i'm more just sit for three streamer olga. So you go ahead and do that. So carolina at houston of got over eleven points. Both games played this year carolina. The service defense. And tyrod taylor's out david smells Rookie quarterback stanford one. Carolina incident is always against a Plans of now and people know about him is that they have Brian burns were the pass. Rusher in underrated Safeties in corner. So there you go. So carolina like them. Arizona at jacksonville this week. All you've seen lawrence making a lot of mistakes. The sound defense. Arizona is granted only point last week. I the vikings but often they did real good versus tennessee. we've gone so arizona Cleveland verse chicago again. You'll get rookie fields in hobe better. But i still expect to make some rookie. Mistakes in clinton's normal gear is gonna get after of mouskouri cleveland's got a good defense. Yeah myles garrett jadeveon cloudy jay. Not really i mean you think leans roster they probably are all here author slow star twenty six best defense or now so also. I picked him up until my leaves. Oh okay so. That was last week very surprising. I agree Denver's the jets. Denver surprising not really surprised to surprisingly but number five defensive gun overload points both games alzheimer denver come the season. The jets wilson big Soon as funny because he had it wasn't had two picks on the first two passes to the game James james winston ask a couple years ago Speaking of james wesson play any anybody any time. He is listening right now. Without those receivers new orleans play next week. They play updated not updated. Okay yeah see normally nice weeks. I'm definitely interested to start them. We'll get they just at miami They've gotten some points. Ballgames was pittsburgh and baltimore You've seen that defense. Get pressure on. They play to out. I think i'm pretty sure he's is pretty Wait and see 'cause they said it was Knows it wasn't a series as they thought it was. the guy got carted off the field for rib injury either. The shit his pants or like why getting car off firm of andrew. Yeah if you know they say some tough guard takes them as games. I love the play. Whatever devers miami If to last one tennessee verse indie jacobson if he starts a because once out. Look for that. Tennessee's not off to star. But they played russ and kyla murray saw. That's only reasons if the jacobson's in ugo tennessee. Sti i can see that sucks nil so look out for those even put backup quarterback rookie quarterback's Early on and then you've kind of find out who. The good defenses are. Failing some pretty good ones the new orleans new england next week obviously. They're already owns as it. Yup yup bone throw the paper. The paper like a man's fan. All right that's all we have forty the way show. Thank you for listening. Libellous on twitter and youtube. Thank you all for your support on also media platforms hollered smell feeding. We missed anyone. If you have other people that you think are good. Our ups a will be sure posts something tomorrow on ram facebook summarizing a few pixel getting along the way because we want you to listen. Listen to all the good ones. Is there all right thanks again. Y'all y'all peace.

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Rookie RB Fantasy Projections

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

33:20 min | 1 year ago

Rookie RB Fantasy Projections

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Megan and Austin should probably tell you all my name's Ross Tucker a former NFL player five teams seven years now. I think I got five podcasts. I do over seven days. So Nice and symmetrical. Joe Mentioned Greg Cosell. We're going to continue our COSELL's concepts to morrow on the Ross. Tucker Football podcast. You can hear our week one bets. It was glorious with Steve Fezzet yesterday on the podcast. Andrew Brandt with some interesting comments about maybe even the NFL decreasing the salary cap this year. So that the decrease next year is in as bad. Joe We need to finish up the rookie draft and what it means in terms of a fantasy impact. Whether it's best ball drafts or dynasty season-long whatever couple of weeks ago. We did the quarterbacks last week we did the wide receivers today. We will do the rookie running backs. And we will start with Clyde Edwards Hilar- the only rookie running back. Who landed in round one? I thought there was a chance at a multiple guys. Go in round one just at the back end of the round but the surprised people a little bit by making Edwards alerted the first running back off the board. But you if you listen to them. Talk about him after the draft. It probably shouldn't be all that surprising. Everybody knows right now that apparently Andy Reid went to his general manager Bret feed each who was also with Andy when he was in Philadelphia and Compared Edwards. Allaire stylistically to Brian Westbrook. And he told breads thought he was a better prospect and that kind of bears out. This is the first time in Andy. Reid coached football. Team has drafted a running back in the first round and remember. Andy's been coaching being. He's been a head coach since nineteen ninety nine. This is the first time on his team's has drafted running back in the first round up. So that just goes to show you especially given the discussion about the value of the running back position. That especially tells you what the chiefs thought of this player so that is. That's phenomenal news for Edwards hilarious fantasy outlook the implications of this for fantasy. He's a great receiver. I think that's a number one for the Kansas City chiefs the Kansas City chiefs Andy. Reed's always been passed. Heavy Patrick Mahomes gives them the reason to be more past heavy than he's ever been but Clyde Edwards Allaire is a fantastic receiver. Andy Reid has always gotten great production out of the running back position dating back to do. Staley his first couple years in Philadelphia. Then Brian Westbrook will shawn McCoy. Jamaal Charles Kareem Hunt of the flashes. We saw out of Damian Williams even some Spencer ware in his time in in Kansas City. The running back position produces in Andy. Reed's offense he is fantasy friendly at that spot now. Of course they're going to say well Damian Williams is going to be involved at and you might be but you have to look at the facts. You look at the facts. The Kansas City made a luxury pick Damian Williams arguably could have been the super bowl. Mvp and they still drafted Edwards layer in the first round. This is a luxury pick for a team that is loaded. The chiefs probably didn't even need him and they still drafted him. You can argue all you want about the value of traffic but I think it's fantastic news for For fantasy value. Now take a listen to this over. The last two seasons Damian Williams has played sixty percent or more of the chiefs snaps in eleven games in those eleven games. He's averaged twenty five fantasy points per game for context Christian. Mccaffrey averaged twenty nine. Point five in his ridiculous twenty nine thousand nine season so dean Williams if you extrapolate that over the full a full sixteen games condensed into one year he would have been the RB to and they drafted Clyde Edwards to be their starting running back the chiefs understand running back value. They also understand good. Football players and Edwards layer is a good football player. I think he starts right away. I am willing to take him as early as the second round and Redraft Leagues and he is the number. One Overall. Pick in rookie dynasty drafts. Let's move on to the next back off the board and that was de'andre swift to to the lions to pair with Kerryon Johnson. This one not so great a landing spot for fantasy now and this is this is a good exercise to remember how important landing spot is because it the chiefs. May de'andre swift there pick thirty second overall and Clyde Edwards. Allaire went to the lion's at thirty fifth overall. You might you might flip them on my dynasty ranks. I currently have Edwards. Allaire one swift five at running back. It might be swift one Edwards. Allaire five if these if these landing spots switched so it looks pretty evident that Matt Patricia. Bob Quinn want to have a running back committee you remember. Even when Kerryon Johnson was a rookie and he was playing really well they kept rotate eating him. With Garrett Blunt who was doing absolutely nothing and then carry on. Johnson came out and look like a plotter in his second year. Now I think the Andrea swift the most talented running back here. I think Greg. Cosell on this very podcast. Compared him to Dalvin Cook he's playing behind the just an okay offensive line. They seem to really want to rotate them. I love them as a prospect. I think for Fantasies. Kinda BOOMER BUST PICK THIS YEAR. Maybe things change maybe carry on. Johnson can't stay healthy again. Maybe twenty twenty one. The Lions Make a coaching staff. Change and de'andre swift becomes a thirteen hundred yard back. Who can add you? Five six hundred yards receiving navy. That happens I don't think that's in the cards. This year. Aggressive fantasy players might start considering him around the seventh or eighth rounded redraft leagues. And he's still kind of first. Half of the first round rookie dynasty drafts but the landing spot is certainly not pristine here for the Andrea Swift up next Jonathan Taylor to the colts curious to get your thoughts on this one. I'm not gonNA over think this I'm GonNa look at the positives here When when we don't have anything else to talk about but the NFL draft and we're doing our best ball. Drafts are high stakes drafts. At this point you might be able to kind of twist yourself into a pretzel rationalizing four or rationalizing against certain players. And I think Jonathan Taylor is one of them because if you look at the facts Marlon Mac has gained one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine rushing yards over the last two seasons essentially a thousand yards a year. Nine hines has caught one hundred seven passes over the last two seasons so if you look at the baseline numbers running back. Didn't seem to be experience. Need for the colts. Especially if you buy into the fact that the running back position is more product of the offensive line than of the than of the players talent itself because this is a great offensive line arguably the best in the entire NFL. But then you look at the fact that the colts traded up for Jonathan Tail. They treat it up for him. They traded in front of Jacksonville. Which seems to say to me that they fear Jacksonville. Who is trying to replace? Leonard Fournette this off season wanted Jonathan Taylor. He's Co Jonathan. Taylor is a great prospect. I just an he tested out of the building in Indianapolis at the combine. Kind of funny that. That's that happened in. The colts drafted him and now he's playing behind. Philip rivers behind a great offensive line. Philip rivers is not somebody you want dropping back forty forty five times a game right now. I think he needs a sustaining run. Game behind them. He will get that with Jonathan Taylor who by the way arguably could be the most underrated receiver at his position in this class as well the the offensive line is Great. Taylor's a big back. He's got outrageous athleticism. I don't think the colts drafted Jonathan Taylor to give them five to eight carries. I don't think they drafted Jonathan Taylor to rotate him in a three-man backfield with Marla Mac. And Naim hines. That doesn't mean those guys aren't going to get some snaps here and there but I think it would be a just a horrific misuse of resources and horrific misuse of Taylor skill set if the colts pegged him as a rotational back. I think he's the one to win. Rookie drafts and I think he can go off the board as early as the third round in redrafts I think right away he is their lead back and I expect them to get fifteen or more carries per game makers to the rams interesting ahead of guys like jk Dobbin they wanted camakers to the rams in part to replace Todd Gurley well. There's a couple of schools of thought here. Do the rams no value the running back position and many would argue. They don't because of the contract to talk early and then the fact that they spent a third round pick last year on Daryl Henderson and then spent a second round. Pick this year on camakers. My other my other point here is and the other school of thought is how much they not like. Darrell Henderson because the guy was a third round pick last year they trade up to get him and then he didn't even play a hundred offensive snaps last year and then they come out and spend a second round pick on a running back arguably a position. They don't need Henderson and Malcolm Brown there. What this says to me is I think camakers at some point is going to be the rams lead back this year The thing about Henderson is there is there are reports that he struggled to pick up. The Rams Offense Sean McVeigh's offense I don't think I think the rams probably liked what they saw from camakers in that regard. He was a high school quarterback. Greg cosell on the Ross Tucker football podcast said he really saw acres understanding of fronts and how it contributed to his vision as a runner. And You wonder if that dates back to his experience as a high school quarterback reading defense is so I think the rams liked can make her cerebral style of play especially if that was an area. Daryl Henderson struggle and by the way up Florida state had a horrible offensive line. They haven't had a good offensive line in years. And the rams had a horrible offensive line last year thirty first per pro football focus so I think the the rams really liked camakers the waking ran behind that bad Florida state offensive line. They think that can translate to the La Rams so it's a nasty backfield for fantasy purposes. Because I mean frankly we still don't know anything about Daryl Anderson. He barely played last year. Do they still have him in their plants? Malcolm Brown is still there. They kind of like him. These coaches favourite but acres trades including his receiving ability. Kind of making my favorite back. Here I think he's kind of a sixth seventh round. Pick in redraft. But there's league-winning upside there. It's just the fact that you're going to have to navigate a really swampy backfield at least in the early part of the season. If you want to invest investing camakers next up still on the second round we've got JK Dobbins to the Baltimore Ravens and other one. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it like I mean talk about just the most pristine landing spot you can possibly get on. There was some thought. Miami was enamored with Auburn's and apparently that might have been a smokescreen because Miami. Pass on a couple of times but there are some thoughts Leading up to the draft. That Miami was considering drafting Dobbins in the first round with one of its three first round picks. Probably the final of those three didn't happen and a Baltimore decided. We have got to pull the trigger on this player. Because he's a great football player. He's a one cut downhill runner. He's a great fit for this raven offense that that's based on. That's based on the run game around. Lamar Jackson in the Mar Jackson's twenty. Two career starts all running backs. That's any running back. Average is five point zero nine yards per. Carry all of them. That's ridiculous for context of running backs with one hundred or fifty or more carries last season. Devon Single Terry led all qualifiers with five point. One three yards per carry so basically running behind. Lamar Jackson is is a is a guarantee that you're going to be in the mix for the yards per carry title so this is a great fit for J. Dobbins. The bad news for fantasy is mark. Ingram who's really effective last year? They still have Gus Edwards. They still have Justice Hill here. So this is a guy who I look at it and think all right I view Dobbins with this landing situation as an absolute perfect landing spot but the question becomes for fantasy this season alone. Is he going to be kind of useless? In the first half of the season and then really useful in the second half of the year. Is he going to be useless for fantasy all year long? Is he going to be very useful? Is he going to be so good early on that? They're going to benchmark Ingraham Forum. I don't know if any of those things are true but the one thing that I look at here and by the way I think you can make the argument Dobbins or Jonathan. Taylor should be the second pick and rookie apps just because of his long term outlook but for fantasy this year. I wonder if Dobbins is going to be more like Nick Chub two years ago and Mile Sanders last season where they really weren't very useful for fantasy purposes but then ended up becoming league winners down the stretch especially miles sanders. Ross you remember how well he produced down the stretch this year. I wonder if Dobbins is going to have to be a player like that that you have to sit on and wait for him to marinate so he can so he becomes The the Ravens Starter. But if he sees the field in in a capacity where he's getting fifteen carries a game at some point. The guy's going to be a top twelve running back. It's just a question of if and when that opportunity comes here last one the second round Joe is Aj Dylan. Who the packers. Surprisingly took a Boston College at the end around to well the Jordan love pick. You know that piss packers fans off but Aaron Rodgers is play slipping Dylan might be the pick. That really got him going. Because packer fans are looking at their team. They're like we need weapons around Aaron Rodgers. We we need to help them out if this is his last year or two in Green Bay. We need to help them out. And then if you look at the packers roster you can make the argument. The strongest position on team last year was the running back position. Aaron Jones scored nineteen touchdowns at led the NFL. Jamal Williams is a solid number two back and the packers fans are sitting here thinking this historic wide receiver draft. We still have good players on the board at this point. You know. We Still Brian Edwards on the Board Antonio Gandhi Goldens on the board deadened duvaliers on the board. And we're drafting running back in the second round this one really got packer fans going. But I if I'm trying to rationalize the pick if I'm trying to get into the mindset of Matt floor and Brian Guten cuts the general manager there. I think the floor saw Derrick Henry. Aj Dylan I at least on some level you know six foot two hundred and forty seven pounds not many running backs or built like that. Not Many linebackers. These days are built like that. He ran a four five three forty at the combine and jumped out of the building. So you see a lot of explosiveness in AJ Dylan at least in terms of his measurable 's and I think Matt before remember. He was in Tennessee. He was the play caller in Tennessee when Tennessee during the twenty eighteen. Nfl season decided to switch from a dual backfield approach with Dion Lewis and Derrick Henry. In the first half of the season to essentially benching Dion Lewis and leading Derrick Henry. Just basically run the offense. He was the foundation of the offense and the Tennessee. Titans taken off since that point riding that all the way to the AFC championship game in Twenty nineteen. The I mean. You look at Oxfam's razor in these situations. Aj Dylan reminded reminded Matt Leflore Derrick Henry. I don't think he's as explosives Derrick Henry. I don't think he's as good of a prospect is derrick. Henry was coming out but this is pure philosophy. Change pick the packers stink. They want to run the football and they WANNA run it. Well they want to run it consistently now. The question becomes. How many snaps does Dylan plays rookie. I don't think Jones coming off. The Field Guy. Guy Had nineteen touchdowns last year so does. Aj Dylan's supersede. Jamal Williams is he. Somebody who's just going to sit and learn and rest while Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams who are on the final years of their contracts run this backfield. I am really struggling to find the snaps. That are going to make dillon particularly fantasy relevant. And if he's a rotational back. I actually think that's a misuse of him in the same way it was a misuse of Derrick. Henry so if. Aj Dylan's getting nine to ten carries per game. He's just not going to produce for fantasy this year. I think he needs to be the hammer. Rb One and I don't see those snaps for him. This year the question becomes too the packers both Jones and Williams walk after the season and then. Aj Dylan's the foundation back. I think there's too many questions right now to really get a great projection of AJ Dylan as we head into the twenty twenty. Th the third round picks Joe Keyshawn Vaughn to the bucks. Zac Moss. To the bills and Barrington Evans to the titans. Which of those are relevant to you or do you think all three merit a discussion while the off three merit at least some comment keyshawn bonds the most relevant of the He he's a third round. Pick seventy six overall. We thought the bucks could be a team that would dabble in the second round at the running back position. I think the only thing that kind of surprise me a little bit was bruce. Arians came out this off season and mentioned that he really thought the bucks need to get a pass catching running back. So you're thinking Oh Mandy Andrea Swift Clyde Edwards Allaire camakers. These guys would be great fits there. I don't think anybody really thought of keyshawn. Vaughn a great receiving running back coming out. I think it's an underrated aspect of his game. I think he can run screens. They think by the way they find out admitted that they thought he was an underrated receiver. But it wasn't really the big part of his game at Vanderbilt If you look at Vaughn on the surface he actually was kind of a similar prospect to Ronald Jones a better prospect than Jones. I did not like Jones coming out of us on. I thought he was a better prospect but similar kind of that straight line. One cut down hill type of guy so I is. He obviously above Ronald Jones on the depth chart. I guess he can't say that for sure. How goodwill the bucks defense is going to be able to get fifteen carries per game and the other thing that you need to point out. Is They talked about the fact that they needed a receiving back while they drafted more of a Jitterbug type of back? Raymond Coleus in the seventh round out of Louisiana. Lafayette I believe so. Where does he fit into the equation? Hopefully we're going to have some sort of an off season program to watch this but Keyshawn von Right now is typically typically going off the board as the third or fourth running back in in Redraft Leagues Certainly Behind Edwards Alaron Jonathan Taylor. And he's kind of in the mix there with Jay Dobbins. I A lot of people think Vaughn has easier path relevance. Jk Dobbins says. At least right away I think this could be a league winning back but I also view keyshawn at somebody who gets one hundred ten carries and at the end of the year. We're like man. I can't believe he was going in the sixth round. So I'm in on keyshawn volume. I think he's the most relevant of the three third round picks but there are still some questions for Keyshawn von so. Hopefully we get some sort of off season program to answer those questions for Zach Moss. I think there's a. There's a clear path to one hundred and fifty carries at for him as a rookie. He's going to play. The Frank Worrell Brandon beane went on Sirius. Xm NFL radio and said Yeah We. We think he's going to be frank or in this offense while Frank. One hundred seventy nine touches last year. The problem for exact. Moss's as it as it is a problem for Devon Single Terry. They're going to feed eat off each other's touches and then Josh Allen has seventeen rushing touchdowns the last two seasons. So there's not a lot of touchdown upside Zach Mossy or so. He's more of a tenth eleventh round type of pick in a second round. Rookie Dynasty. Pick and then Barrington Evans. Ross you mentioned him up. Tennessee took them ninety third overall in the third round. Fascinating utterly fascinating. I plugged at the top of the of the show. Greg Cosell's draft guide of fantasy points DOT com. While he watched Evans coming out of Appalachian State he watched him early in the process. Before the drafting said Darren Evans fits the profile of a running back. Who's going to be best in an outside wide zone? Run game a Ross. Do you know who runs outside zone. Better than any team in professional football. Titans Tennessee Titans. It's the foundation of their run game. So Evans is not Derrick. Henry Okay. Few people are six. Three two hundred fifty pound running backs do not grow on trees. As a matter of fact they are the tree. I mean they're not built like that Darren Evans is like five to ten somewhere around there. But he's an outside zone running back. He's a good receiver. Who can probably give Henry a breather here and there? And if Henry were to go down Danton Evans. Frankly for fantasy is instantly instantly one of the top three or four handcuffs in all a fantasy football because of the way he fits into this scheme. So this is we. We typically don't see teams invest third round picks to protect an investment in the run game. Typically a third round pick at the running back position is premium pick review. These picks as as players. You should come in and start. Now maybe view that as Evans game down the road. Because Derrick Henry is only playing on the franchise tag this year there. There's thoughts there's Thurs assumptions that they want to work out a long term deal. But that might not happen. You know you guys get hurt. The running back position. So maybe Darren Evans has a roll down the line but for right now. This is the Tennessee. Titans saying the foundation of our entire offense is the outside zone run game. If Derrick Henry gets hurt we are screwed so if Derrick Henry has to miss a couple of games remember. He was dinged up at the end of last season it. Yes the couple of Games Darren Evans is going to keep them on schedule. And if Derrick Henry is out for. Let's say three weeks. Darren Evans is going to be projected as a top twelve running back for however long. Derrick Henry is out because of the nature of the titans offense. They are still going to run the ball if Derrick Henry is hurt or not that's why Darren Evansville is an important pick for them for immediate fantasy value. Though it's just not gonNA happen. He Needs Derrick Henry to be be hurt for that Joe. I'm going to give you some names. You get to talk about one of these guys so you have to choose wisely. Joshua Kelly with the chargers La- Michael P with the Jet Anthony McFarland with the steelers. Dj Dallas in Seattle Jason Huntley with the Lions. That's it you you get to talk about one of those guys. It's your choice ladies choice. Okay so I am going to. I'm going to. I'm going to talk about the guy. I have ranked highest for dynasty. Even though I have thoughts on all of those guys the guy ranked highest dynasties Anthony McFarland and it's fascinating because you can read into this pick from from different perspectives. If you believe in James Connor all McFarland is a fourth round. Pick as a change of pace type player and it's a good sign. The steelers didn't invest in earlier. Pick in running back. They J Dobbins was on the board in the second round when they took chase poll. So you can say hey look. They didn't take Dobbins even though the fans might WanNa Dobbins or camakers there they even James Connor however if you think the steelers don't trust James Connor you can view McFarland skill set as very intriguing. And and you can see. He say he profiles a someone who compare nicely with Benny Snell in thunder and lightning backfield. The truth is probably somewhere in between but Anthony McFarland that. This guy came out After his freshman season his redshirt freshman season in two thousand eighteen. If he could have come out maybe he gets drafted higher than this. A spectacular first year at Maryland He ran for two hundred ninety eight yards on twenty one carries against Ohio state that year. But it's twenty nine hundred thousand tape reports where he played through a high ankle sprain. So things weren't as impressive. He's undersized but he's a really hard charging kind of downhill aggressive runner. He reminded me in that mold of Philip Lindsey or Matt Brita type of runner and I think that pairs well with with a grinder. Whether that's connor or Benny Snow. In Pittsburgh. He only caught twenty four passes in college. But I think that's an that was an underutilized of his game. I think he's straight line speed could make him very effective on screen routes and we'll routes. I think that should become a bigger part of his game terms of redraft leagues. I think he's worth a shot around the tenth around because I do think there's a chance he leads. This Pittsburgh offense in production out of the Backfield I really do. And but if James Connor stays healthy there's a chance McFarland barely played so. That's where where you take in that tenth eleventh round. I think he's a second round rookie dynasty pick but if Ben Rothlisberger is healthy that is a huge shift but if Ben Rothlisberger is healthy this is going to be a good offense. An hour invest in aback. Who's got a chance in a really good often. Such good stuff. I mean Joe is like Evan was. He's like an encyclopedia with these guys. It is unbelievably impressive to hear him. Talk about each and every one of these guys and get you guys. Ready for your fantasy drafts including maybe against us in the best ball draft. You just gotTa make sure you sign up fantasy points dot com put in the code feast or really you can sign up for any of our sponsors to if you want to double dip and tended to me. The sponsors are on the sponsor page at Ross Tucker dot com such as bet online. 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NFL: Free Agency 2020

Fantasy Theatre

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NFL: Free Agency 2020

"Welcome to the fantasy theater. Nfl show what's it been two months. He's Greg lay field. It's good to be back. It's been far too long island. Remember how this works anymore. Yeah to do well I talk you talk. We usually don't talk the same time we're GONNA try to. We're failing already really forgot how to do is not talking to other people talk. That's my daily life problem though. I always want to interject because I forget things really quickly. Because you've got all the answers and that's why you hear them out as fast as I can. In most of the time it's out the end it's gone in chasing butterflies. That's why I recruited you greg. You got all the answers. You know exactly why Tom Brady left the Patriots. Oh yes I do. I do have the answer to that is because of Jimmy Garoppolo. Well let's cute a student Al. We want to get right into it. Tom Brady TB. There's nothing else to talk about. So here's the answer is easy as I can give it to you. In one word there's one word Tv went to TV. If money money Tom Brady has taken a pay cut for the past almost ten years in New England. He has been a quarterback who's been paid between twenty and twenty five million dollars a year so that team could win was ever Bagel and deform. They're going to him. One of the highest richest contracts per year in the NFL for quarterbacks. The Dude has not made his money. Like most other quarterbacks drew brees got fat contract a couple of years ago it hampered the saints that just got paid. I can't even imagine the contra give them a whole wants his is ready. We'll doug at a franchise tag. I thought he got his contract. No I haven't seen his contract. You just rumors he's GonNa Guess Contract. Yeah definitely definitely. I think he turned down low. Maybe like thirty five years. Something like that but Tom Brady to me. The weapons help. He's going to have Mike Evans and he's GonNa have a Godwin their OJ. Howard that helps every hour is gonna Feast. I'd get it but let's be real. The guy's is about to retire. He needs to make as much money as possible and he can't do it with the Patriots because they just don't pay their players. I think his heart was broken to Greg. The two thousand seventeen trade deadline. I read a story today. That Bella check actually tried to give Brady to the forty niners instead of Jimmy Garoppolo. You remember that story that sets Waker SAM head for ESPN. I think there's a lot of truth and I think Brady was quite upset about that but I think those seeds were planning. Maybe didn't he signed a one year contract last year though two years. Well after that it was something to. I don't know what the specifics were. But he reworked it in a way to where he can be a free agent and this year he was never going to leave after winning super bowl under that because he wanted to keep the streak alive. 'cause you just want to keep that super bowl strict you? WanNa keep waiting. And he sees the writing on the ball. That Patriots Dynasty is over the definitely. I don't know why they're not in full rebuild mode honestly if they are just quietly because they hadn't really signed anyone as they have lost a lot of free agent there couple of their biggest or best linebackers orders. Gone Calvin out the door. He's just gone and there's another one I can't remember off my head like the only guy they're keeping around is Gilmore. But I think hey just sign him but that having that number one quarterback is really just part of Bill Belichick Entire Defensive Scheme. So he's going to pay. That guy was but it was only guys. I ever pay compensation competent. Zorn's site compensatory picks coming for them next year. They're going to get a load of them again. What they got six they get. They get too many every year and it's because they just don't sign people and to me. Tom Brady leaving. Just it's strictly about money. But this I wrote down a whole bunch of stuff about paying. Your quarterback is how you lose. Not How you win. Okay I mean it's about getting on that rookie. Contract is one of the most valuable things in sports right now who we don't. We don't know the New England quarterback yet can you? Who who would you guess you had to put twenty dollars on. Who's going to be doing this quarterback? Who would you say this year or going forward to the future VIZ next year? Can you play football in September? They're going to pick up somebody who were not gonNA think about and he's GonNa Start he's GonNa win eight to nine games there. Andy Dalton it could be something like eighty dollars and it could be the be Cam Newton. Who's about to hit the street? It could be Joe FLACCO. Who got released today? Pro Joe FLACCO. Joe flacco eight nine games with the Patriots in that scheme I think. Andy Dalton is the betting favorite right now. And that's who I'd go with Andy Johns on the Patriots who wins more Games next year. Tampa Bay New England Tampa Bay. Yeah for sure. Yeah I think so. That's defense or the end of the year was a lot better than people. Give him credit for the defense is is really was really really good especially against Iran and they. They got better and better. They have a lot of young players there and now the brain and the ultimate veteran in Tom Brady. Who's going to stabilize that offense? And Not as many picks of course he's going to have probably the best weapons. He's had his entire career. I don't think there's any doubt about that. Maybe not since ran the Randy Moss. Here's for sure now. One thing that's going to be a problem though is that he's also used to having one of the best offensive lines in the league. Tampa Bay had one of the worst offensive lines. And like you can get home. Tampa Bay last year. We're just rushing for a lot of the Times. A lot of times james was rushing throws because of that offensive line. They have not addressed that offensive line in in free agency yet. Now it doesn't mean they won't doesn't mean they can't Draft players who who will stir it up but I mean. That's going to be a big problem for Tom Brady. That he has never ever had to work behind a bad offensive line. Ever all season as a saints fan. Are you scared no not scared now? Mainly because I believe that the saints with with With Sean Payton has a a winning record against bill in Tom. Brady all the play. Every four years greg on the small blatant it is in the past several almost eight. It wasn't even close. I'm not scared of Tom Brady because I'm just not. He's a behind. That offensive line is still the problem. Now who's back there reporter back unless they dress up into line in the saints have a very good defense affront. They're going to get home brady because he's a statue forty-year-old quarterback verse forty year old quarterback. Because we excited about maybe they'll move some NFC south games for prime time instead of these crabby NFC east games and we have to see every weekend. Oh both one of the Tampa New Orleans. One of those games will be in prime time and the other one will be that Fox. Three fifteen game. You know that game of the week type thing. Those are going to be marquee match ups the past several years you know the NFC South has had that Thanksgiving ninth game. Can you imagine Tom Brady? Drew brees Thanksgiving Nights. Yo Dat would be huge huge. That'd be that'd be so much fun to watch. Let me tell you where Tom Brady wanted to go greg. Tom Brady wanted to be at Tennessee. Tight that's what he wanted. Think but once again he was not chosen just a few years ago and Bill Belichick. Chose Jimmy Garoppolo over Tom. Brady the Titans chose Ryan Tannehill over Thomas Brady. That's what happened. They knew they could have gotten them. You kidding me that relationship. He's got with variable if they wanted Tom Brady. They could have gotten Tom Brady. At this point John Robinson the titans. Gm thinks that Tannahill is better than Tom Brady. Yeah and I don't disagree. I don't disagree at all in significant less money than Tom Brady wants per year. Here's the thing that worries me. It came out that a lot of free agents were really wants to sign with Tampa Bay. Now that's one of the reasons I was excited about. Tom Brady and Tennessee because I was like the second. He signs or Tennessee. Oh here comes cloudy. All here comes that cornerback that somebody the Logan Ryan might come back for less money because he knows in the NFL players mind. They have a better shot at winning. The Super Bowl. I think that's true. If that's true over Tannahill true but I think a lot of NFL players may have seen it that way. Just just like the fans do because there are a lot of people that like. Oh I don't think you can get Tom Brady. Tom Brady that mystique is also in the NFL players. Heads it is but how much. I didn't look this up. I don't know how much room or cap room the Tampa Bay has gone. Ford I mean they did just pay Mike Evans. And they've got a lot of money. Reputa- that defensive line and now they're paying. Tom Brady that all this money. Can they even sign these top tier players? Because Damian counties won't twenty million a year is crazy. Yeah I believe today that I saw the Tampa Bay has about thirty million left still and I don't think that includes their draft pick so play probably can't afford somebody like clowney but you know a lot of these second way free agency gas. They could definitely feel some holes. That Way Melvin Gordon potentially go in there. Yeah that's Todd. Gurley now available. Todd Gurley getting released by the rams. WanNa say I I really hope and I and I really think they have taken this lesson to heart. Don't Pay Derrick Henry not not the todd gurley level Madame on. Stop paying these running backs. Yeah I'm sorry. They just break down too quickly and I do feel bad for them so I think I said earlier in the year last year that I wished running back say different tier of contracts than ever of the player because they just don't last very long in everytime one gets paid like girly like a Zeke. Just got paid they just. They just stopped trying or their body just breaks down they just. I mean they're getting hit even if they don't get the ball they're usually blocking or faking neuron and then they go in the hole and they get hit anyway so they're getting hit. How many how? Many Times fifty. Times a game more nut. I would think Mama don't let your babies grow up to be running backs now right now. We're going to do it for you. Know You WANNA be a pool player or darts bowling bowls. Yeah that's all you fans are going to start sharing moral low impact. Very low impact a girly out the door and they also released clay Matthews today. So I mean I don't know if he's got anything left but The rams are having to cut a lot. That era is over speaking of the Patriots. The rams are done through thick. So they're like they didn't they had They down here last year is going to keep going down. They they got kind of in that salary Cap Hale which has signed on these players because they thought they were going to win last year and the year before and now they're trying to crawl out of it by early on these players so between Todd Gurley in Clay Matthews. The Rams did also let go between the both of them one and a half knees so So yeah so I think. I think it's a win. An upgrade for the team potentially yeah. They're averaged needs to players. Went up when they let us cal cal me end overdraft. Whoever the rams running back's going to be this upcoming year though to that. Oh Yeah I'm sure. They'll draft somebody but Oh who's that guy is there. Oh my gosh. I forgot the rookie from Memphis rookie. Last year from. Yeah I walk to tell you the the running back I'll be targeting is Well they'll be too but I think one of them will be under drafted and that's Marlin Mac with the Indianapolis. I like him a lot next year. I didn't like him a lot this past year. Because the quarterback situation but with rivers going to in Indy in knowing that system and I mean he is if he plays out there. He's GonNa dump it down. And I like Mac a lot and I think Max probably going to be a third or fourth round. Pick if I can get Marlon Mac in that range to me. That is a that is a win huge win. I will be talking to him and almost all of my leaks next year. I know that Jacoby percent better than Philip rivers improvement in. You just didn't get it done but you got injured. That's it's hard to make that excuse for again. Then if but Philip rivers as times fan go to the colts. I was happy to see that on a scare to you Philip out. There probably won't win anymore anymore games. They want us to make one more game. I Bet I will bet you. That the line for the Coles bet up as people bet the over and so if if it does you go and you pound that under for the colts. Next year de'andre Hopkins also leaving the division. My goodness Lovett Bill. O'brien keep doing you son. Don't listen to the haters. You keep doing you crazy. Afc South has a neck and neck race for who has the worst fraud office between the Jaguars? And the Texans and just when you think that one of them can't outdo the other it happens villa. Brian is obviously. He's he is taking the crown and he's just going to keep it as being the worst front office. Gm slash head coach slash team operate. Whatever he is he got the corpse of David Johnson for for the second best receiver in the League. That is insane to me trade Trade Watson next bill people. Call Call About Watson Watson. A division please. I would not be shocking. He was saying. Get me out of here. I'm very excited to be playing garments. Who twice a year as well. It's going to be a lot of fun to easy victories. But to me the Jaguars or doing doing it right. And I'd say I've mentioned earlier. Cheap quarterback play is how you win super bowls. They finally got call from the Front Office. And I think they're trying to come back around. They let go these players that are trainings players who were burned by that last call administration and so now they have a ton of draft picks tawny draft picks ton of young talent there keeping all their young is around. I do like even mentioned over foles just for pure monetary standpoint. Because you're not gonNA with Arnold Women Foles next year. Trade him folds was the right move. He's leaves back a lot of dead cap. I think it's eighteen eighteen million ton ton but still better than thirty. They were GONNA pay this year. Yeah well don't sign them. Don't signed him in the first place. Jacksonville Yeah but the bears. How stupid of the bears thanks? I think they're gonNA win with Nick. Foles you can't pay that much money to a backup. Oh it's it's it's a guy go. He's trying to save his job. Nagy just trying to save his job me everything it takes. What was what was hilarious. Though is I don't know if you saw on twitter. Several of the Chicago Bear. Receivers were tweeting at various free agent or quarterbacks on the trading block saying hey where you at hey hey Chicago in in offering them because everybody understands how poor the decision was to go with your bisky and that's over. Trubisky is a backup. He'll be in. Xfl This time next year for Mitch. Trubisky seems like such a nice guy they xfl. That's still happening. Yeah he'll be back next year and trubisky will probably start in for the saint. Louis battle hawks logs. No they had a quarterback well their quarterback in the NFL. Expect a couple of those quarterbacks. Pj jaywalking man. That he has Russell Wilson in him and they're actually working on contracts where NFL teams can sign xfl talent. I would not be shocked. Cpj Walker playing as a preseason games this season in possibly making some rosters. Titans backup police. He looked he looked good. He reminded me. He has some Russell Wilson pocket presence. You can't teach the pocket presence like Russell Wilson Stink. Yeah just that instinct. And you'll see some people who just don't have it Greg. What else do you talk about next? Oh man there's so much why we're on the bears so you think they're going to do well they got. They got big Richard Nick. He's going to come. And he's going to stabilize a franchise and then they sign ancient. Jimmy Graham Duin. They lead the League in tight ends. I I don't understand what they're doing. So many tight ends on that roster. I don't I don't understand. I understand Nagy trying to save his job game a two year. Deal to to your Jimmy Grams. A guy was going to say your job Matt Nagy Jimmy Graham. That's your savior. Is Jimmy Graham from two thousand twelve? No no okay well. He's not walking through the door. Yeah they have. I think they have. Yeah right more tight ends any other. Do Adam Shaheen trae burn? Burn is probably. They're going to get cut but probably I do love I know we mentioned the Andre earlier. But Man Gimme all a collar Mary. Next year effort fantasy going to be very trendy. Very Trendy Picnics. Yeah he's probably going to be the Baker Mayfield of last year where he just gets drafted third fourth round way too high probably probably way too high probably too high. Kenyan drake going to be a hot commodity to. Oh yeah that'll offense. Could you imagine if they don't draft anybody? Andrew Discount against the war course. Row You oh yeah. Keep readily to. Because he had happened because he left Miami and he just I mean. He looked great on the field at times when he flashed him real Playmaker ability all over the field. And that's a very young team. They have a couple of veterans. You can stabilize and teach. Now they have to really veteran receivers to teach cuyler. Hey if this happens throw me here. And the catch radius. Deandre Hopkins can make up for those mistakes. That second year quarterback is going to have so. I Love Love Love. They want to move by the cardinals. You want to talk about some of the quarterbacks that is still in limbo sure Cam Newton Cam on the block now. This is an interesting one to me. Because the panthers almost every move they've made this op season. Seems like it's been with the idea of a complete tear down rebuild Matt rules. Come in there. He's ready to get his own team around. Mccaffrey may be the only guy left standing but the signing of Teddy Bridgewater feels like a team. That's not tearing all the way down like why not. Just I don't know start will greer next year and try and get Trevor Lawrence. See that's the thing. I don't understand what the teddy signing is going to do. Yeah unsure of they do have some young receivers. They're they have one of the best running backs in the league. Pretty good defense too. So I don't know maybe. He thinks he can win. Now the next three years two to three years I mean I mean. We don't know what kind of head coach he's going to be the NFL. We don't know how that's going to go. That one just confused me a little bit. I know me too teddy. Went there because of because of Joe Brady and apparently he knows a lot of that terminology already right. So that's that's interesting. I don't Know Carolina. They're not going to be on my radar next year. If I'm McCaffrey I'm not planning another downed till I get a contract. Oh yeah he'll probably he'll probably break the bank as well but I will say I won't none of Oh my mind just went blank. He is the out side receiver for the panthers not. Dj More Curtis Samuel. I won't none of Curtis Samuel next year because Teddy. Bridgewater was not great at throwing the ball down the field but I won't Dj more more possessing possession. Guy That is the is the wide receivers you have on that team next year. I'm very excited to To draft him. When everybody else is probably going to be looking at McCaffrey or Curtis Samuel some breaking news here with Todd Gurley. We mentioned the bucks to other teams. That are apparently interested. The Falcons and the seahawks for for girly for early. No he wants to go to Seattle swimming. Play the rams twice a year. Yeah probably I mean. There's there's two designations were a lot of running back. Go to die. And that's Washington redskins OCTO- so yeah Washington sign jd mckissick. You don't WanNa go to Washington. You got to compete with thirty seven year old Adrian Peterson. You're not beaten him out in still better than early. Where's Franco go and sign me up in the League? Is he ever GONNA retire please? I mean not time talking. You might need to as well as Frank No. I never wanted to see you on another fantasy. Roster what are the? What are the chargers going to do for quarterback quarterback? They don't have anybody. It sounds like they're content with going forward with tyrod Taylor. Maybe you know. They're what they had to six pick. I think yeah. They're six big very much in line for that second or third quarterback if they can straight up you know those quarterbacks may all go all three. I might go in the top five. If that happens they might just be waiting. See they may just be like look if we can't get one of those three guys at six. We're not gonNA invest a lot of capital into moving up. While we're going to do is take season. Go with tyrod and if we stink. We'll be in a position next to you at that to make a run a trevor long. You would not be fun to be chargers fan right now now. I now I do like a lot. What they've done in in this off season I but part of it is. That's what I was GONNA say. They've spent some money to the money on that offensive line. They got two really good offensive. Linemen and got Chris Harris on that back into that. Chris and I mean they're making some and they let a Melvin Gordon. Leave which I think is a good idea because you can get a Melva Gordon. Tight back in the third or fourth round of the draft running backs they kept they kept echo or who is the possession? He's the he's the kind of guy you WANNA pay them. Just was good. I liked that. Have really good. Receivers they franchise tag the best hiding and to me their quarterback away from being a very good team and a very tough division. I mean that. That's their their biggest flaw. Has the division that the Rian. But that's why Brady didn't go there. Yeah I can see. I can see them reaching out to Cam. Newton was. He hits the market tomorrow if he doesn't get traded tonight. Cam Newton hit the market yet. Because it some of this contract towards gotTa happen tonight or what? Is it something something that timing the year and everything else that? I believe tomorrow is where a lot of these players get paid right so we're recording this on march nineteenth. So I know. That's why girly was released today because he was about to be get ten million guaranteed from the rams that they didn't make a move soon. Yeah and so. That's why cams on the block. I don't think they're gonNA find a suitor form and for these teams. That need a quarterback. I mean they're worse boss to land than the chargers that have a lot of good skill players and guess what Cam Newton's used to playing with a guy that plays a lot like Austin Ecuador so I mean he could slot in that offense and with a with a rebuild offensive line. Great receivers great tight end. I mean it's crazy hunter. Henry a more Athletic Greg Olson to yeah I just think. The chargers have publicly came out and said like Nah. We're not filling it. But they could change their mind. The jameis Winston of it all can we. Please get Jameson. A. Patriot uniform. I think that was fantastic. That would be that would be. It would be great just to seem bill belichick. Try to coach them up on the sideline and and when you look at Janus nothing was coming in. What the hell. What the Hell were you looking at James? That would be comedy theater all year. Long as Bella J just just shakes his head. I mean he probably just put it on his hood the whole year and just keep his head down and just shake his head after a game. He doesn't even speak to them anymore. I wanted to keep Jimmy. I can lead me you know I can see the Patriots. Maybe just say you know. Throw their hands up and say we'RE OFF TREVOR LAWRENCE. Don't they have so many pigs every year? They always have cap room. I mean they could be in position they could be in the position to say. We're on new one year where we're just not going to be great. We're going to treat everything we have. We're going to move up to the number one pick. And we're going to take probably at home run pick with Trevor Lawrence. Because I mean. There's a lot of good quarterbacks this year but if I was coming out this year he would be the second or first second. Pick over borough. You think you'd be SEC. I'm sorry and there'd be a lot of argument between borough and he just because I did it the year triple orange this. He's done it. Two years next year will be a spur. Doing it and that team is really good at Clemson with him to me. I would take Trevor Lawrence over even borough if they're both out this year plus he's got long hair. Plus you gotTa Love. The Hair. Got Along long hair. It's good it's good look. The Patriots are not winning division. Netto carry their quarterback is it's a buffalo's s Buffalo Vision Loose Stefan Digs in love. Love Love love that. Nice big for Josh Allens fantasy value. Oh Yeah but you know who I like the most getting this up. So you have Stefan digs you have What's his other receivers umbrella? John Brown so right I like coal beasley and a knocks the tidy and over the middle. Because you have those two outside receivers instead on digs is not an over. The top guy he. He makes a lot of plays that way. But he can run routes in play that that seven to fifteen yard range wild. John Brown's also running across run over the top. So I do like the middle of the field guys a lot with Cole Beasley and tied in Knox so fantasy value to me. They already had a really fancy year last year. And they're they're to me. They're the favorites division. Now Yeah head to make sure that jobs trying to make sure that John Brown is still on the bill is. He's not a free agent is they? Don't think so. Because he would be highly coveted if he is. And there's a lot of receivers because the best two receivers left are Emmanuel Sanders and Robbie Anderson. That's that's a pretty big drop off right. And that's the best two receivers available so the free agent class where receivers was not great but the draft is where a lot of these guys going. I think Robbie Anderson is asking for too much money and that's why he's not signed yet but I think Robbie Anderson could do some serious damage on amy's gone good disciplined team. He's never really been with a discipline team discipline coach. And yes honestly as Saints Fan. I would love to have Robbie Anderson as my susie. The saints are in the market for a veteran receiver. Because they think that this is their year to win again. Brandin cooks on the block reunite. They won't bring him back from the Anderson going to the saints. That would be a huge gift because then you would have a really good tied in. You would have a true number two receiver who can play pretty much any position. He could play any receiver position on the field. And of course you have the best receiver in the League as well to me. This this is just completely in my mind. There's been no rumors with this but to me I think the saints after Emmanuel Sanders and when that falls through because I think he wants to go somewhere else then they'll get Robbie interesting I'm also. Yeah Emmanuel Sanders. I think is on. The cowboys are big time. The I'm also hearing that todd. Gurley could go to the dolphins those dolphins. They're just like we're going to build and build and get all this Capri Malls Capri. Spit all one off season. Yeah quarterback who needs a quarterback is a quarterback. They've added Eric. Flowers to the we want the third New England blind backer. And then on the about it Byron Jones Shack Lawson Emmanuel Arba and Calvin Noise. I honestly love what they're doing and they have the fifth pick they have. I think you have twelve draft picks this year I get a lot and they have so. Many draft picks steelers first round pick. I know they have so many draft picks they have a they just added four extremely good upgrades the defense. They added an offensive lineman again. I like seeing where the offensive Lineman go because that tells me how serious a team is winning About winning now. I think the dolphins with if they get to if they get to look out to me that will make the dolphins the failure of that division if they get to know way. They're not going to be favored over the bill. They won't be favored. I will have them favorite our pound. The over we'll to I'll take that bet with you greg. I will pound the over owned on whatever line they get with. All those draft picks out. Take it I'll take it. I'll give Buffalo. You get the dolphins next year like what they're doing man. I think that he is going to be Even better it could be like Brian. Flores forelands I do but as she got. Greg hit a lot of the big ones couple. Good Logan Ryan. Where's he going to get right now? The last I heard is he still wants ten million ten million a year. That's not a terrible titans. If they're going after cloudy they're definitely not going to pay him that right It seems like if he was gonNA stay tight. And he would have stayed at Titan by now Logan Ryan and Still GonNa be very valuable. If it's on the contender that needs a secondary piece. He comes down on that asking price a little bit That's going to be fantastic signing. Yeah racket still play. Oh yeah our secondary was incredible before we had all the injuries last year and he was a big part of that. He's a leader. Yeah I think it depends on with tin meal that to me feels like a very fair asking price and asking price where it seems like. He wants to win. He's not wanting to get just paid like Tom Brady. He's he's warning to win. That's what he made last year and he's saying he's not taking any less than that basically the floor now for food so. Jv clown is the biggest names still left for sure hill and I think Robbie Anderson I might like him a little bit more new. Do although you send the saints could use them another big name. That's left as far as fantasy goes. I mean they're still running backs out there to get see. What happens with Melvin Gordon? I think everybody's kind of waiting to see what happens with Gordon before making any more decisions and I think everybody's waiting for that news to break any second now Gordon signing because rumors were going around earlier that not is interested in paying him what he thinks he's worth surprise surprise guys never really averaged. I mean he's been a fantasy production back only because of volume. He's I mean if you look at his yards per carry and things I mean. It's not been great so I just. I've never been a Melvin Gordon Fan. And even were no matter where he goes. I'M NOT GOING. To get Melvin Gordon. Fan Take Note. Derrick Henry. Look what happened to Gordon? He didn't tell you that I contract offer to him. He wanted to hold out and now he's probably GonNa make half of what. The chargers offered him last. Offseason don't do it. Derrick Henry take whatever contract the Titans Give Ya I beg your son I beg your son do it to yourself get that money. Yeah so we're going to go. I don't care about flacco at all. They might be the back for the titans for all I know flacco is done. I think eighty dog can still play a little bit at least long enough to be a backup. But you're still thinking New England. Yes yeah yes. I don't see New England doing Cam Newton so I think it's Andy Dalton and a draft pick is eighty dollars in like a second or third round draft pick. Somebody like Dick Frahm or something. Yeah I do I to me. Jake is pro ready right now. He only needs to be four games because he ran a pros offense. I like him a lot in this year's draft more than most people. I think we will definitely have address podcast before the draft. I WANNA DO FOUR MARK. A first round mock. Oh yeah one hundred percent. Yeah I mean it's going to be all over the place and I think one of the keys to how this entire season with with this is going to go in the draft is the lion's not really did anything. I think they're ready to move on from Stafford. I think with the second pick. I think they're going to surprise some teams or maybe they're also spreading these rumors together trade. I think they're they could easily take to a right there and be completely happy about trade it trade it lines. That's my advice to your staffer could still ball. They can still play. Yeah or they're just trying to get some draft equity because also right there is going to be the edge rusher from Ohio state. Who's going to be the second or third pig most likely got the third big who second year the redskins having second redskins redskins going chase young. Are they've talked about two and two if they go chase song? The lion's trade that pick. They tried the third pick if redskins coach ACL. If it's a quarterback maybe the lines they chose young and Matt. Patricia is doing very big happy. Dance out terrible for two Orlov or Herbert if they went to the redskins man. That's just that's just the worst run organization. Maybe in sports the Knicks are up there too but man. That redskins are just a basketball up on this. What are you doing Ron Rivera? Mike might have his hands on the steering wheel. We'll see doesn't seem like a guy that would just take a job to get run over. I hope so. I hope he got some power because the NFL is better when your traditional powers are good and the NFC east has been so bad like any any any of those four teams are ready can take that division in run it. The Eagle's actually added Darius slay. The Eagles added some really really good defensive. Help nose tackle Jay Devan Hargrove and on Rodney McLeod and area slain that back in so I mean. That's that's a really good defensive. Talent theory sleighs awesome. Yeah he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league he is and now he gets to shutdown Amari Cooper twice a year cowboys resigned. I hate with the cowboys have done this year. Five years one hundred million. Is that what it was? Oh my gosh way too. They have which when they pay and the money they pay Zeke. And if they paid Amari Cooper all the other good players or gone on the inside look like they're gone. They have all their money wrapped up in that offensive line in those three players and half of that offensive line is still a rookie Kanji. Oh better score. Thirty eight a game was they. They only have to get the seven seed now greg. Oh Yeah Yeah Titans. We'll never miss again ninety seven every year here. Now we'll never miss me should at least you'll have to worry about a D Andre Hawkins Anymore. I love it so much. We can never stop that guy. I hated hated. I mean that's just the guy not but don't worry. The Texans replaced deandre hopkins with the ever. Elusive the young. This spry Randall. On that time. Bill O'Brien your Maestro. Jv UNCLOUDY GET OUTTA here. I won't these second Ray linebackers the get Outta here. I need David Johnson. We hit a lot of teams. We really did we. Did we move too fast? Greg win an hour worth of content there. But you just awesome. It's going to be done this in two months having almost system. You've had no one to talk to about this and it's just been following the news and I I just want to talk. I've got I've got I've even got more. I've got more snow by just too excited. Calm down we're going to draft pod for sure and you know the draft. Hopefully it's still a month from now or around a month from now. What about. Five weeks is the draft. It's yeah they're gonNA keep it where it's at jets right. It'd be a different venue in different feel and works out for Goodell. He's booed this year. Well I mean I don't know the players may still be goodell. Started all this plan from the beginning. I knew it screw kickers.

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Week 2 Recap and Week 3 Preview

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Week 2 Recap and Week 3 Preview

"Was Up guys. Welcome are today is just me on the POD. We're going to be discussing week to recap also growing over Thursday night game and Walter Preview Week three free so let's get right into it so I we got the news and recap of week two you Thursday night game so let's start off with the Thursday night game as the most recent thing that happened end. Honestly the tines looked atrocious is. Mario look like a Benjamin quarterback. Look like Tannahill was about to come in for a SEC and Garner. Menchu came out guns blazing superstrong Dj Charq kept the streak going with three games straight of touchdowns three elite games in a row looking at someone who can become weekly fly flags. Maybe a wide receiver to depending on your roster construction but the main thing I want to discuss your there are two running backs Derrick Henry and Leonard Fournette now Leonard Fournette Stat Line doesn't look too bad. He had sixty st or something yards on fifteen attempts. He got six passes for twenty three yards. It looks great or at least looks solid. You're happy with that especially going against tough. Titans Defense Leonard Fournette had a sixty nine yard run and you may be thinking how would he have gone sixty sixty something yards on the on total. If you had a sixty nine yard run he had fourteen carries before or he had fourteen carries other than that run for net negative yardage and men that had simply horrible mean. Leonard Fournette didn't look look anything like his what she could have been coming out of college in that game and he faced stacked boxes throughout that game so sometimes thabit concerning there in the fact that you couldn't really get it going on the ground. He did receive He did catch six passes something that was missing previously in his career he had always been able to catch two three passes a game but looks like he's taken nextstep hitting targets in this game in having a strong week when we to interception department now the concerns here number one offense simply isn't very good and although he did catch six passes there's still a chance that he gets under utilized in. N- negative game script situations entered for net. Just didn't look good however I am buying low if I can. I want to paint the picture like this. Leonard Fournette fourteen carries for negative yardage broke one long run but that run was so improbable if you watch the replay of that he goes straight up the middle like the rest of his runs and somehow manages to maneuver himself around the rest of the defense so I want to paint it like that but I also want those receptions. I feel like Larry for efficiency will never be great. It will will never be great in this offense will never be great based on the run style in the play calling that's happening in Jacksonville by his efficiency will definitely really improved from from negative yardage and the fact that he is catching six passes with Garner Menchu at the helm. I think that just means means that he has some value that people won't necessarily see so. I'm going to try send offers out for him. Definitely something slightly risky because of the fact that he just didn't look at this game but they don't really have anyone else there in that bacterial Reiko Armstead is just a guy so that glider for is a potential Bilo candidate not might tall blonde but certainly one to try now. Derrick Henry is one. I'm concerned about because in the first two weeks. He looked like he did in the last four weeks of the season. He look doc amazing. Definitely the best running back in that Backfield I mean she pretty much always was but when they fell down when they were down against. What's the Jacksonville Jaguars you saw how Dion Lewis was trying to get in there a bit more end. The fact is that we know Derrick. Henry is not a pass catching right back sure he had that one pass for sanity yards and touchdown the Dow's basically just him being able to get yards with his legs. Kinda like running running blade. He got the ball right before he isn't utilized in the passing game this means that especially NPR if he gets game scripted out oh he has the potential to bust in a big way in certain games. He saved his week with the touchdown. They're oblivious had forty forty yards or something like that in one touch down there they're so he saved his week off of that. I'm a bit concerned about Derrick Henry and I feel like if you could sell them off after these three weeks and obviously he's going to have those boom weeks where he puts up twenty twenty five thirty even thirty Vanc- points because he gets touchdowns but it's just not is not what a good offense and Derrick Henry No I just he isn't consistent option. NPR given the fact that the tiny so coral one too and that they may fall behind in certain game scripts next. We're going to recap week two so in week to basically the ravens offense was one story lines. I kept on clicking Lamar Jackson had a hundred twenty twenty plus rushing yards and two touchdowns passing on thirty seven attempts and two hundred seventy two yards through the air and the thirty seven attempts is something very very important to look at because last year he was in the twenties and if Lamar Jackson continues passing at this higher rate and being as efficient efficient as he has been the Mark Jackson has a legitimate shot to finish as the number one quarterback infancy this year he could be a League winner based on where you drafted him now. I think regression is coming in that department. Obviously I feel like Lamar Jackson. He just can't sustain this. He was against the cardinals against the the dolphins so both those very gorgeous defenses this week he gets Kansas. City's a great play this sweet as well but I feel like eventually Lamar Jackson will fall off it. Just I still think he will be good even when he falls off and he will finish initiative as a top five quarterback fancy this year based on how broken the rushing scoring is in comparison to passing a most stander under settings now markey's. Brown's snappers went up astronomically with thirteen targets in this game seeing the field for over fifty percents naps had eight catches for eighty. Six yards looked as electric as we saw in college. He is so incredibly fast on in his forty time. If he had run the forty it could have been the low for threes they even high forties which is some incredible incredible and I feel like Marquees. Brown is going to be someone who's a low end wide receiver to rest of the way. I want to see one more week. I I WANNA. Let's see even though it is against another bad defense. I want to see if Marquees Brown continues gain the target share even if he doesn't get older receptions options even if he doesn't get if his target Sharon snap percentage are up. I feel like Marquees. Brown is locked in a wide receiver to rest. This season mark. I Andrews is now a top probably top five tight end. You obviously have Kelsey herd's kittle Ingram him probably probably Mark Andrews he received eight catches for one hundred twelve yards and a touchdown here he is study is locked and loaded this week. Especially against Kansas City they must pass the ball and Andrew's will receive a massive target share here so is definitely start this week. Justice Hill receive practically no usage mark Ingram mundane within injury as compared to what we would have thought got a law those carries something concerning turning there. I dropped him in leagues. I don't think he has much value besides a handcuff. Now drew brees went down six weeks having haven't put him on. IRA which is good news meaning he won't he probably won't be out for more than eight weeks but drew brees going down means the whole offense is very severely negatively affected because although bridgewater and Hill aren't horrible backup quarterbacks the issue is is just breeze the disparity between the greatest of all time and just a guy at the car back position is incredible and this basically means that the only players you can start from that offense with the any sort of confidence are Michael Thomas in Alvin Kamara and Camara. He definitely will take hit. I see him as a low end running back. One Very Land Are Ryan back one and Thomas Miss as a low end wide receiver. One just gang targeted chair that I really want to see this week. How that all shakes out Big Ben is out for the year and it's horrible news for offense for him. Juice juice or takes a big hit Ari. He wasn't looking amazing at started season but yeah definitely takes a hit with Mason Rudolph James Washington. I feel I get a bump nope. It may not sound like that should happen but James Washington Mason Rudolph have a connection going back to college and in the preseason where James Washington has looked like stud. It's always been with Mason Rudolph under center so I definitely have some interest for James Washington if he's on your waivers because on drop them seeing in targets among crave definitely go pick him up moncrieff by the way is drop alanine. Thank you will be in there in wide receiver in three wide receiver side so his is definitely dropped ball right now. James Connors dealing with a knee injury looks like he will play a but definitely some modern james name's connor unskilled for him to high feel like the touchdown upside won't be there and yet. I feel like he legitimately has a chance to lose his starting job if he's out this weekend Johnson meals becomes a Ryan back. I feel there is a chance the John don't samuels takes over these gets more in part of a timeshare with James Connor so I think that James Garner someone to legitimately feel concerned and about your manning was bent for Daniel Johns Week three really experimental week you're starting obvious ones restoring sake on of course starting hurting Avenue Ingram but you really want to see what dolphins does who he targeted who favors if were you make any any conclusions like Sterling Shepard get big bumper big drop down. Damian Williams is out for their game against the Ravens and McCoy's dealing with a knee injury. Apparently they're monitor is usage so Darwin Thompson suddenly becomes a Bible deep. Feick flex play with a lot of upside later in the season. If he looks good here he could end up becoming part of that timeshare and eventually taking over the line line sherve those carries as why every like earlier in the season they thought he is more talented than any of those other. Ryan bags in the backfield. Dow's obviously before McCoy but honestly McCoy. He's good with the chiefs but Thomson really wants to see what he could do. One of the most lucid backs in college so definitely coming to monitor their leagues. Jordan Reed is still in the concussion protocol. I don't think he plays he's had so many concussions. I believe seven have been recorded. concussions yeah had just don't see him playing if he hasn't practice yet. Vernon Davis firearm up for one more week. Someone has decent entitled play here. His matchup entails is going against the bears. Obviously horrible match there but if you need extremer you can definitely start John Ramsey demands trade not too many fancy impacts here make Fitzpatrick Trade desk jobs for twenty twenty first. It's likely high with the big bend news much of a makes the most sense in the world verse yours but it's a move. They made they reportedly like lighten coming out C. J. Anderson was cut. This is some sneaky big news here because it opens a door foreign Kerryon Johnson breakout defensive community beauty was all over Kerryon Johnson game breakout this year and we all thought that carry on could be next year drafted in the first first rounder at the early part second but you have we just saw how he was taken off the field for some third-down throughout preseason even in regular season season and the lion still haven't had many hit at aw any goal line. Tom So carry on hasn't been able to really there. Either it opens the door for Johnson as a deep leaked sixteen league multiple flex position flex by someone to stashes the carry-on owner or as actually any owner because he has a chance to receive some work filling a C. J. Anderson like role he was. Ram Involve Afford Ato Johnson has a chance to be somewhat fantasy relevant here more more so just exists exists in as thorn in the side of all carry on owners so now we're going to run through the injuries pretty fast year so brees has six weeks we minimum timeline with the tournament with a torn ligament in this big band is on IRA out for season connor potentially this week. Gallup is out for two to four weeks. This is fairly big news as is coming along is breakout gives a bumped Amari cooper a just in the target share department is I love target Amari Cooper in this new offense cow more offense. I feel like the offense is just go up better in general and Amari Cooper. Put together are two nights games. You're showing the connection with Dak Prescott. I feel he is definitely someone who could be drafted as a mid mid-tier wide receiver one next season. Devin single Terry is out for this game fire up. Frank Gore always always seem to get it done but yeah. Gore's plug in interior lineup for a volume play figures together fifteen plus touches in this game so yeah may not be the most efficient Ryan back but he will get the work. Cam has a foot injury likely out this week. You are starting starting if he plays if he doesn't play than ministers roaring. CMC DJ Moore's interesting incurs meals are interesting but if you have better options Chins I'd probably say both I mean if you have started I guess you can. They're definitely star worthy. His says they're on the lower lower end of that spectrum joke who has a concussion and Narendra is out for this week. Chris Conley is questionable. The the Sean McCoy has an ankle injury. He's I think he's going to play his best if his workload will be the same amount as it always is and actually a news that just came out David jokers placed on I r a broken wrist so he will not be playing in for a long time so definitely it sound like horrible for the guy in jokue. He was touted by law fancy communities having potential to break out as the tight end. Obviously a target wouldn't have been as good as you would like but he had the touchdown upside in a very good offense then we have. David Williams is out Jacob's entire Williams or questionable. Josh Jacobs has a groin injury end has sickness last week was plugged in to IV bags so I really don't I want to start if I can help it but Jacobs is definitely impress based on where you drafted him likely what you have on your roster de Jackson's out for two weeks minimum with rib injuries so fire up now so now. Galore looks like Jeffrey. He won't play either so Agar's someone you could play as starter. Jj Ortega whiteside in April Leagues beneficiaries include Bid Water Rudolph Games Washington urging Kane Johnson bills if connor mists anytime Randall Cobb because Gallup has gone Gore Darwin Tomson Listen Dan Waller if either miss time just a higher target share Adler Jj so now we're going to get started with the week three preview but before then if any of y'all are on popcorn. It is shutting down within a week or so so please don't. I WANNA lose you here so please check us out. Fans podcast on an Apple podcasts on Gulag has on spotify wherever you get your podcast because I know that y'all listen to a law my listeners came from pot going but please migrate on over to Apple podcast Google pocket spotify radio public wherever you get your podcast guys and will continue supplying that contact. Thank you so much all right so studied. Here's the week three preview. I we have the dolphins in cowboys. It's simple you start all your voice year starting dock. Zeke Amari Amari Cooper radicalism play as a flax and I mean Jason Win in deeper leagues. Have you need a tight end in after joker Okumura after Jared Cook. You can't play him. You're not starring. Any of the dolphins here with any sort of confidence had just leave it at that destroying the cowboys. DSP AST obviously while the highest one d highest projected total points for the cowboys of any team in the league this week week so you're starting all those cowboys restricting the cowboys the S. T. That's much for DOC in so next. We have the bengals bills bengals. Joe Mixon has looked very bad in the past two weeks. Just really hasn't been clicking hasn't gone the work hasn't had a efficiencies Aziz some. Am Watch out for their. You're starting tyler boy. You're starting. John Ross likely unless you have better options. It's a very disadvantages matchup. Bills have a very good defense so I think you're going to start tyler boy just for target volume but John Ross has has a potential for this to be a regression week a last week. He saved his week incense by having a long con in the last minute of the game so summing lucky lucky there are few key has chance to regress this week benching him if I can but I recognize lobby started for the bills. Does your starting frank order has high-end rb threes week your gang law the work or a low end rb to your gang all the work here so yeah here sorry. I'm Frank Order. You're also playing John Brown against the bills mean he's had a incredible target share in the past few weeks and you're starring Josh Allen because the Bengals defense is pretty bad and you avenue Galileo yards on them John as rushing Florida's fault next we have the eagles on the Lions Eagles suffering with the lion researcher wide receiving corps for the Eagles. You're probably starring. Now's Nagwa for someone who is a great waiver wire. Pick up this week. You're probably starting Carson. Wentz here and Mile Sanders is interesting mal sanders. I hasn't gone the working needs to be fans to be the fancy star some perceived to be earlier in the offseason so it's definitely a situation that modern there. I feel like it won't ever be workhorse situation with the eagles in Doug Peterson but if mall ZANDER's can in car about a substantial role for himself he could be someone who a great big contributes to Jambi Brin based on where you drafted him Nafir for the lines. You're starting Kerryon Johnson after the Anderson News especially. You're starting Kenny Gee. You're starting while Gosh that's pretty much a you could start Marvin Jones here but it all depends on matchup and what options you have. He's a wide receiver three for me this this week all right next the jets on the Patriots and we have some news that recently broke one of them being one of them being that Antonio Brown is now released by the Patriots They're based on some tax. Messages is that just got out about why centers latest accuser Antonio Brown's off the Patriots. We're not really GONNA discuss about him a lot more. I don't think he gets a job in the league at least this year but yeah so you're starting gains white. You're starting Angelina domain. You're starting Josh Gordon. You're starting all these guys because now they suddenly have a lot more value trying. Sony Michelle Destroying Tom Brady A he. You're starting a law the Patriots this week on the jet side. You're starting the bell and that's all you can start with conviction. Lebo last week ten receptions out of the backfield field their their third string rhyme quarterback Luke Falk is really targeting Levian bow playing close to the line of scrimmage someone in PBR who can be amazing for you this week so next. We have the Falcons on the colts the Falcons. It's going to be interesting seeing how devante the Freeman plays this week if he doesn't play well it's definitely time to panic because he is looked awful. In the first two weeks. Splitting time equally with Ito's as situation to monitor Marlon Mac is now injured practice. Today we will see if he continues if he is ruled in during the week you're starting him because he's received the most carries in the NFL so far if he's out join woken broken becomes an interesting low and flex play as his name hines extreme pbr formats on the cold destroying. You held in your starring. I'm MARLA McAfee is healthy. That's pretty much all that you can start conviction now on the falcons side. You're starting devante. The freemen most likely based on where you drafted him. You're starting Matt Ryan Strong. Julio your strong Calvin Ridley. That's pretty much their next. We have the raiders in the Vikings takings the raiders Josh shake entire. Williams are injured currently. I'm not sure Josh Jacobs ways even if he does. I feel like could be limited capacity if they go down so josh. Jacobs is playable but definitely someone. I'm concerned about your starting Kyle Williams at the blazers trying Darren water if he plays that's pretty much it on the Viking side of the ball. The passing volume just simply hasn't been there. You're starting theon. John Digs someone on a bit scared about. If you have better option you few of I got this question other. If you have Calvin Ridley or you have Stefan degs. I'm starring Ridley this week. He just hasn't gone target. jerker cousins hasn't passed the ball enough. Cousins Stream will asset this week ed yet. It's contingent on how much passing volume he gets. Dobbin cook locked in loaded as one the top three top four top three running backs on this late. He looked amazing in these past few games than someone. You're starting with conviction. You're automatically starting starting him. Basically next. We have the ravens the chiefs it's simple. You're starting Sammy Watkins. You're starting Patrick. mahomes restarting drives. Kelsey you can start medical harmon demarcus Robinson Mukul End demarcus looked great last week definitely someone if you need a higher higher end zone with upside definitely go those two on the ravens starting Jackson as well as Marquees Brown mark ganders marketing grandma's wallet. He plays in that. That's pretty much in this game. It's GONNA be very high over under game and some taste with a lot of points a day that although the Ravens defense is pretty strong pattern mom suggestion that he's better than any defense. Anyone could throw throw at him. You're starting practically every again. This is the game you want to get all pieces on and things I'm looking for mainly unleashed Rawlinson versus Hardman who really steps in at wide receiver to roll or if they both Sherry pretty equally next we have the broncos on the packers packers Aaron Jones Jamal Williams news came out with Matt before saying that he wants a even split touches which makes absolutely no sense. I don't understand why the floor alert is doing this but so many concerned about for an Jones restarting him this week. You're not starting Jamal Williams but it's a long term mm concern in this offense. You're starting. You're probably starting rogers. He hasn't looked amazing here but definitely someone who could put up hi who can put up. Cuban numbers this week and you're starting Davante. Adams Marquez vowed gambling can be used as a flex spy as well. Adams has a difficult match in Chris Harris Jr Junior's Chris Harris Junior started to shadow going back to last week here so it it it is tough match-up He's Davante Adams gang targets from Rogers. You're starting this week next. We have the panthers in the cardinals for the panthers. You're not starting either. The car back to your Christian. McCaffrey is Christian McCaffrey He. He's he's obviously a locked in start start. Dj a bit hesitant on but I feel like you can definitely by. Dj More Occurs Sandals one of like to wait and see on if you have better options available for the cardinals cuyler Murray his own you could start in season-long India S he's thrown so many passes in the past has few weeks and his rushing totals haven't really started so he can add that his game yet he he is a good start this week. Christian Kirk Larry Fitzgerald Boats chargeable against the panthers in David Johnson as well as per Dave Johns David Johnson's come out for wrist injury. Believe I believe end honestly hasn't gone the same amount of work as he used to receive especially in the Russian game so it signed find to be a big concern about if you can move now so high or at least sell at his current value at consider. I probably do it given on roster construction. How much people are willing to pay for that now. We have the giants in the buccaneers. We we already touched on this a Woah. You're starting saquon showing AB Ingram. Don't WanNa start anyone else during shepherd I if you're in. PBR can be employed by win buccaneers. I'm staying away from all the running backs if you need a flax with a likely floor is going to be paying barber. None of the other running backs James Winston is extreme mobile are back against the giants and you're starting my Gavin's Chris Godwin although it's been it's been rough if you've had Mike Evans based on what you expected them to be but I feel I against the giant secondary has a chance to go deep catch a ball ghetto La yardage. Maybe pick up a touchdown. Aaron Arain overall just be targeted in this game. OJ Howard my God. It seems like Bruce Arians just doesn't use highlands. This was something we knew entering this year but the fancy community as a whole law people thought that because he hadn't had someone asked talented as a OJ Howard people thought that he would still be utilized. Unfortunately he isn't so he's a he's. He's more of a not not necessarily boron but he's a low end tight end one this week on your disappointed where you draft. Kapila key can be started in this case matchup next we have the saints in the Seahawks. We already discussed the ball a lot for seahawks. It's interesting interesting to see if Chris Carson and Rashad Penny how that backfield's without because Carson last week had one recorded fumble practically one other fumbles while and after that it seemed to be that Pete Carroll was punching him by playing penny a law in Penny look good ogre averaging over six yards per carry gang Tajon. Will they make it. More of a timeshare is what I'm very concerned about here so yes some. AM watching you could start Carson Penny. I I probably win given the Saints Stu run defense but I mean in sixteen team leaves you definitely put him in as your Flex Texans chargers of interesting game just pure. NFL for chargers you're starting Austin that go to one the best running backs dependency a top three so far looked amazing electric catching. PBR gang touchdowns. He's locked loaded as a top five this week. You also have key now in WHO's another one locked in as a high end wide receiver one this week against the Texans Secondary. You can fill rivers as stream will asset and that's in you can start Mike Williams while on the side of the Texans you got de'andre Hawkins obvious he's. He's walked unloaded every single week to Shawn Watson. I Really WanNa see how Kiki. Ut viruses can he still plays out uh-huh but y'all multiple starting will forward this week against that depleted secondary based on German James going down his replacement. It's been going down there on the third string linebacker there so some indicated in mind when you're considering playing. Texans players players going forward next we got the steelers in the the niners dealers Mason Rudolph. Maybe A to be the as a streamer. You could start him but other than that. You're you're Avenue Avenue playing Juju. Have you have him. James Washington is a sneaky flex play above to wait a week to see how often looks like by feel like he can be. Affleck's play right right off the Bat Vance McDonald. You're starting him coming off a good week last week and you're starting James Connor. He plays if not Joan Samuels. EMEALS is a start for you there on the niners side of things we got Jimmy. G. Has Stream will candidate Matt Matt Brita Regime Moser all-star table and devaux. Samuel is telling you could start in your flex. If you're a bit desperate Deebo last last week received a law. The targets that offense received seven targets book too good with those targets so yeah. It's definitely someone you have to consider in your flags in a deeper League Dante Pettis his droppable although last week he saw Moore snaps he just did doesn't using get the targets and don't know why he looked electric last year but maybe encounter can't be took a step back camp. Rumors were negative so regardless. You can drop them now. I'm officially off of Dante Pettis now. We got the rams in the Browns interesting game pure for ball a lot of start here. You're starting job starting Baker Mayfield discharging. OJ Jarvis Landry. I wasn't high on Jarvis Landry entering the injuring the season based on all pass catching options there that the injuries tour Sean Higgins and David Joke joke who will help him out in that department someone you could buy low on after a couple of weeks here and on the Ram side. You're starting girly mean he isn't he's definitely not going to be when he was last year for fancy unders but you still can be a serviceable high-end. Baotou in this electric offense. You're just starting to three rams. Pass catchers and Jared Goff is someone in play as a low end. QB One this week although he he Lohan QB one hank to going as a difficult defense a so thank you can started depending on the format next ten last. We have the bears the redskins Monday night football features Mitchell trubisky in case keenum yeah. This is one Monday night football resulted in you you cannot start Mitchell trubisky with any confident you cannot start either the quarterbacks with any confidence restarting scary. Terry maclaurin as as a wide receiver three this week someone against the difficult defense. You don't want to start him but in your flex you definitely can for the bears. You're I probably starting David Montgomery a lot more work last week. I'm very scared about Tarik Cohen trying to sell him all my leagues because Anthony Miller Ars GonNa come back play along this law. I just don't see a role for Cohen to really be effective there so yeah. I'm trying to sell him right now. So I'd Jose playing Allen Robinson. You're playing David Montgomery in. That's pretty much it. I would not take the risk on tweak on. I know a lot of people will disagree with me a lot people onto undo but I just can't do a cadre con. I just don't know if he's going to be great. Play this season and that's it. I Park has guys. 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585. 10 Takeaways from Week 1

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

37:27 min | 1 year ago

585. 10 Takeaways from Week 1

"And now move the sticks ten takeaways from week one with Daniel. Jeremiah Bucky Brooks and read Louis. What's up everybody welcome to move the sticks presented by Zach's B.'s we are back once again with our ten takeaway episode following a real busy week. One of action the National Football League cited to have Louis back with US bucky brooks here as well. First of all just overall impression from the first full Sunday football. Lotta overreaction a lot of overreacting place. The first weekend after a lot of people are really ready to either go to the Super Bowl ready to throw in the towel and I think everyone is exhibit a little patience because we didn't have it. Free season will take a while for the good teams separate from the others you know guys I thought this was a fantastic opening salvo of the personnel changing places. This offseason me premiere personnel, right you WANNA. Talk about Tom Brady going to Tampa, and you know I mean you talk about frustration. In Week one against the saints and then meanwhile Cam Newton's all smiles in New England right and then you've got the other one, the other big moves, the trade, the Andrei Hopkins as a career day for Arizona while the Texans struggled a little bit without him all of those storylines this opening. Opening hit here of those kind of things that are gonNA play off with the rest of the season I thought was really interesting. Yeah, WE'RE GONNA get into these takeaway second big picture for me I think football on the on the West Coast looking pretty good right now, when you look at the AFC west in the NFC, West mentioned the cardinals their big win over the niners they like they're going to be exciting team Russell Wilson would be the MVP. If we had one week of football. So that's the NFC west and the AFC west we saw the chiefs dominated on Thursday night and then the chargers raiders both get wins on the road. So the football on the left coast is looking pretty good. But what do you get? Let's just get into this thing here. Let's jump into our first take away. For us, and let's start with the talked about the chargers, the game that was calling the charges and the bengals our first look at the number one overall pick Joe. Borough might take away from that game watching borough. The poison is there just be patient. The playmaking come earl waits for the shotgun snap. You run to not draw hopkins with great. The Five touchdown. Has Chill rose first NFL touchdown comes out of twenty three yard run on a beautifully called quarterback draw. I thought job. Rostro. In this game early, there's a lot of pressure they offensive line is still a work in progress there for the bengals took a lot of shots especially from Joey. Bosa in this ball game but he hung in there and I thought you see the touchdown Ron you saw the athleticism on the quarterback draw almost had a game. To Aj Green at the end was called back off offensive pass interference penalty buck. I thought the thing of that last drive was what left me with a lot of confidence job rose going to be a good player in this league I start getting a two minute drill and methodically moving the ball down the field good accurate throats and excellent decision making. Dj Dass where I really was most impressed with him. When he got into the two minutes, it was just like he was back at lsu lot of command lot of control very decisive very accurate and we saw the boys and we saw Wah everyone really. Really just loves him not only Lsu but as Cincinnati Day believe they have a real quarterback and your franchise quarterback is supposed to give you hope I think there are a lot of hopeful people and the Bengals Organization and fans at Watson Joe Borough Perform I. Don't know how many more designed runs we're gonNA see for Joe Farrell I did not expect to see his first touchdown as a pro and twenty three yard qb draw for a score. But look he's GonNa need a little bit of that escape ability Dj as you saw firsthand that offensive line for. The bengals Scott's work to even though they went up against maybe one of the Premier Pass, rush? Teams in football in the chargers and I wanted to have Joe Joe Borough leading up to this game and really kind of this whole. This whole year that he's really been in the spotlight I don't get nervous do I ever seen nervous you in really the only time I saw him a little flustered in this game was on that shovel pass incident blaming mention. Yeah. Let me look at. He has a tendency to do that two quarterbacks around the League, right? But the the the thing that I love is you mentioned was the boys I mean you looked completely unfazed on that final drives and I, think, if couldn't that kind of situation again, he's going to figure out a way to get a win for his football team and not lead it into the feet or the cast of a kicker. To try and. Prolong. I was a terrible mess. That ballgame there was a couple of moments that were they weren't empty and Joe wanted to just sit back rocking chair like he did a Lsu, and he quickly realized okay this is not lsu's offense. and. That is not two lanes defensive line on the other side. It took him a little bit to try and speed up his clock, but then he got going all right buck. What's your? What's your first takeaway cam is all about the Patriot. Way. Rolls to the right CAMS GONNA run it to the ten outside of the five new into the pylon touchdown patriots second. New England debut homer Georgia bulldogs, teak captain, David Andrews gets handed the ball for two spike. Twitter smell. Colon. And get it and lower shoulder. You know when you look at his combination on paper, you wanted how was going to work out but bill belichick and those guys continue to find a way to take players and put them in the best situations to succeed you wash this office this office look nothing like Tom Brady offense they ran the ball forty, two times cam fifteen carries. In fact, they were doing things they can use to do back in Auburn quarterback powers. Things where he's coming down he'll so so much for a going to protect Cam Cam was playing the way that he always played and I'll say this. I always believe that Cam Newton would benefit from playing on Judgment Games and bill belichick because more attention to details and better disciplined. We saw very efficient passive performance and as you continue to get comfortable in this system I think we were seeing managed to gain better and that is a scary proposition for having to face the. Patriots. Read. I don't know about you man, but fifteen carries for Cam Newton. As we go forward he was tackled ten or eleven time. Scary. So when you kind of juxtaposed the way he was running Kyle Murray, who will get to kind of them really only got tackled one time he carried the ball thirteen times he got tugged down by his shirt lightly to the ground Cam Newton's dropping his shoulder on guys that I just I don't know if that's going to be sustainable I I love the way they've established a physicality there at the line of scrimmage and he was efficient as a passer. They're going to have to dial that back a little bit my opinion. Youth Iron had hayward down there by the goal line. I mean he was he was trying to truck guys and get into the end zone and I did it I love watching camp play that way that's what we get that energy from, and that's what he's got that. Your smile. That's when he's at his best I wonder like you how viable it is or a full sixteen dame and regular season and perhaps playoff appearance. Now, the question that I'll have for you guys, you're quickly as it was this game plan for the Miami Dolphins is the QB power qb designed runs per Cam Newton going to be a stable of this offense because I do question the development of the game a little bit here. Bucky when you look at Nikiel, Harry by-catches thirty nine yards, join five catches under seventy yards. Where the explosive plays GONNA come from they need I think this is the way the Patriots have to play because I, think this is the way they can't play his best. We can talk about what they try to Carolina transitioning him. He has gotten more injuries and was hit more when you're trying to be the pocket player. I think with Cam Newton especially, if you're the Patriots, he's on. One year deal I think you have to play him the way that he has always played at his best, and that is with him running the ball a heavy dose of Cam basically being a single wing quarterback. That is when he's thrive and I think in the explosive face, the explosive plays come off play acting stat according to next gen eighty percent of the place where either runs or. Play action. That's the Patriots office I think that has to be the offense going forward because of the talent that they have, they're going to have to run the ball and really lean onto defense to win games are what's your? What's your takeaway here? What are we got? All right take away number three taking you to Baltimore where week one was an MVP encore for Lavar Jackson back to. Looking at throw has great protection lops in the five. It is caught touchdown, Willie, snead, and Lamar Jackson has delivered his third touchdown toss of the day. So to those who wondered if Lamar Jackson could deliver the ball down field if he could stand tough in the pocket when it was collapsing if he could hit the throws outside the numbers, the answer is an unequivocal yes. Yes and yes. You guys with expectations absolutely sky high for the reigning MVP Lamar. Jackson. I thought he stood up in an even exceeded. Expectations the same for this ravens team. I. Thought they exceeded the game was never really in doubt against the browns I mean the ravens were in control of this game capital of a couple of early turnovers but for Lamar, he talked to all this off season about wanting to improve everything in this game with a special emphasis on the deep off a saw it right there that deep ball to Marquees Hollywood. Brown was a thing of beauty that was Russell Wilson asked dropping it in the bucket like that. Is Connection with mark. Andrews a tight end is as good. A quarterback to pass catcher connection as there is in football, they connected twice four touchdowns according to next Gen stats on the deep ball in particular I thought this was interesting DJ eleven of thirteen for one hundred, ninety, four yards. Three TV's at a perfect has a rating on throws that went ten plus yards in the air. So even when the run game is not dominant, they can rely on the Mar Jackson, in his right arm to get things. It was interesting when when you watch the tape buck because when I when I watched it. They when they're rushing four playing with too high they couldn't get home and when they did get Home Amar was able to buy a little extra time and that's when a lot of those plays develop down the field by the way side note if you're GonNa if you're GONNA put Markings Brown the Slot and you're going to give him free access on your safety. You absolutely what you deserve with that. There's no chance that's GONNA end well for your. But wouldn't that when they rushed for Lamar was patient back there. He just sat back there waiting for things done cover for need to buy some time. He bought some time and make plays Down Field I. Saw Cleveland. gave him just a tiny bit of trouble when they started sending some extra rushers at him I know you kind of want to be conservative. because. If you miss him, he can gas with his legs but I thought they really tried to sit back in this game and Lamar showed a lot of maturity to sit back there and pick them apart. I think going forward you play the Ravens, you're going to have to try and beat him up a little bit. You can't just sit back there like that. You know DJ, I. Think that is the flog game plan that you have. When you face the Baltimore Ravens they throw so much. You have to deal with the powerful physical running game that have four running backs Jacob Dobbin showed up a touchdown. You have Lamar Jackson was also reported running game doing quarterback read options and all of the stuff that they do with him, and then the vertical passing game that they unveil Hollywood Brown Willie snead those guys being able to really take the top off the defense they give. You a lot to think about, and you're right I do not believe you bet you have to come after Lamar Jackson you have to make him make quick decisions on the fly. I think you're sitting back man he's just going carve your port and he is shown over time that he's a much better faster than we have given them credit for and he's continued to improve in that face. We got the rookie tons, tons of tugs. I still don't know which one it bookie, but we got J.. K. Dog. Zone yes. Yes. Yes. They gotta go and I know what my little mini takeaway offer that was man I'm already already Jones to give me some. Kansas. City chiefs in Baltimore Ravens I want to see that now based off what those two offenses look like early in the season loaded up well, it's fun to watch Sunday night football and watch the Los Angeles Rams. Open up that Beautiful New Stadium Against The Dallas cowboys actually ended up being a very entertaining game as well, which could add some fans and they're really get that energy cranked up. But nonetheless, it was fun football and my biggest takeaway from that game, Aaron Donald. Is a bad man Prescott system pocket bring it down. He's he's wrapped up he's sacked back in Dallas territory. Donald with his first of the new season and his first career sack against the cowboys if you don't get the ball out on that third step that pitstop Aaron. Donald in your face, I don't know what analogy we would use. You Know Buck we have a lot of those. Those scouting phrase bowling ball of butcher knives. Born a China shop I know what we want us for dollar game but disruptive from start to finish run pass it did not matter. He's just he's so unusual to see somebody with that type of leverage in explosiveness. This is a good front that he went up against. These are these are all pro players got of one of the best pass protecting the national football league. He started around like little kids in this game Just when you think you couldn't be more with Aaron Donald A showcase game like this when Bucky and he just he blows me away. Look man he is very impressive and I was very impressed with the rams defense. You just didn't know brands that was going to do because he stephan in big shoes. Wade Phillips is one of the best to ever do it on the defense of the ball as coordinated he steps in and the first thing that stood out to me they were far more diverse in their coverage with Donald being able to rush up front. We saw them jump into some too deep coverage. We saw them use some trap covers Jalen Ramsey could get some big shots on wide receivers. We saw the overall of this team, a more physical unit, not only own deepest, but on offense. and. So the weekend dismissed the rams have an opportunity to climb the ranks NFC west, but the team that showed up on Sunday night is certainly good enough to go toe to toe with the other contenders into division get issue alluded to at the beginning there Dj, this is not against any S- launch of an offensive line I mean he goes up against regularly in that Game Me v Premier Guard in football in Zack. Martin. Right there. I. Thought he got the best of them for a good portion of this team. I mean, you rush the passer thirty, five times generated legitimate pressure ten times out of thirty five I. Mean That's phenomenal. Pressure rate for interior defensively. Would come off the edge couldn't get half that he's still got sacked. So I was kind of interesting to see that little tandem perhaps emerged for the rams but I mean Aaron. Donald is clear dinsdale takeover football game when he wants to did on Sunday night Allah. Criticism floating around on on twitter as well, which is ridiculous to me when you twelve. Oh. Well. A Lot. Downs, your third ten plus you have protection issues which documented by watching what Aaron Donald Did and Jalen Ramsey just moved Amari cooper. Now, you can just call it the most physical coverage they let them play until ironically the end of the game where they let. Through the offensive pass interference penalty. But. They just mug those wide receivers bucky that to me looked like the way they're playing covered like the old school patriots against the colts that we used to see that type of physicality there on the edge. It's kind of funny right because this is a tale of two offenses. When you look at the rams, it is all sizzle and sexy and moving misdirection all those things and the Dallas had just a very straightforward basic offense and they just basically overwhelm you with their talent. The problem is when you get these longer situations, you have a undrafted free agent at tears still playing it right tackle. They were isolating him by putting three defensive on the other side force into office of London slide their. Way and making terrorists deal deal with whoever they had them this I it could be Leonard Fluid. It can be whoever they wanted and he was having a tough time dealing with the fastball particularly late this Dallas team is talented, but their office of line is an Achilles heel. We need to change the narrative about this being one of the best office of lines they aren't what we thought they were. This is not a unit really took the field a couple of years ago right without treadmills forever. Collins Yeah. Absolutely, I bought what's what's takeaway number five? With wash their football team grit matters second goal from the three they hand off here Barbara with time dotto. Yes. Touchdown touchdown Washington. And this Washington team is excited guys come on. This is what we're talking about. You know when we looked at this team and you look at them on paper officially, you're like man, I, don't know if they have enough talent to win games. But when you flip over the defense and you see the tough-minded crew that David Symbol of front they can dominate and I. Think what we saw is that star said it frontline took over and their toughness overwhelmed the Philadelphia Eagles. From these guys up front rank here, get head to chase young had one and a half, and then they just got accurate Dj. You tweeted out about just the game plan to Jack del Rio half of this front line. If they're able to continue this effort, this is a team that may went eight or nine games just on the way they do defense place because this defense is top notch particularly in the trenches. They look like those Carolina defenses bucking that you're familiar with and watching the front get after it. Watching a secondary that plays with is on the quarterback at all times a lot of coverage. But then you saw Carson Wentz get locked on, they can put their foot in the ground drive on it and make plays down the field but I thought this was this was a major miscalculation by the Philadelphia Eagles. No Lane Johnson in this game you have no brooks in this game one of the best guards in all of football. So you're missing to all pros. You've got some speed that you. Got In the draft Jalen Reagan and Hightower Sean Jackson healthy and it looks like they just wanted to go out there and play with all these new toys and really pushed the ball vertically down the field. They can't protect to be able to take those shots and even when they did have some opportunities whence missed some throws down the field as well. So they've got to go back to the drawing board a little bit. They've got to get their running game going got to get miles sanders healthy. But again, you're right buck I would tip my cap to Jack del Rio to Ron. Rivera. That was that was a physical physical football team. We saw from Washington and that one it was it was an impressive win for them over the eagles. What's your next takeaway? Yet takeaway six is GonNa take us to the NFC north where you should not dealt Aaron Rodgers three receivers, right The shotgun. Snap a route going deep down the right side lives and NBS hasn't it to the? What a He took it away from Cameron Ler? candling forty five yard touchdown reception. All right guys. So let's go back to April because I don't know how seriously everybody out there. Packers stand really took the packers motives in trading up for. Jordan love. Him Or back from Utah State at in the first round though you've got air roger still in the prime of his career here. So I don't I don't know how much I buy into the whole L. Roger's GonNa play with a chip on his shoulder. He's to play on fire like his left tackle baited. Gyari said moments after the pick. Let's forget the guys just really good like he's a generational talent at quarterback and he showed you why on Sunday. The throws that he was making these those tight window throws those. Improbable. Completion percentage does in fact, next Gen stats next that's access now. Hitting the twenty four yard teeth has to Davante Adams completion probability sixteen, percent forty yard. To Adams in the fourth quarter completion probability fourteen percent I. mean this guy makes difficult throws looked easy and let's not forget about it certainly helps when you're only hit twice the entire game vikings had no pass rush for him and he was able to shred a couple of corners hotel out there and then also Mike. Hughes. Out there I mean devante atoms got. A. One forty four when he was targeting devante additive by the way it was it was a very large sample size seventeen targets on the day. Four Times. He's just using unbelievable quarterback. I think we should have expected more of this in year two now with Matt Leflore placing a little bit more. On the aerial attack, each you know read is funny because I feel like we should issue some apologies to brian good icus because yes. So much outrage with the packers not take enjoyed love and I row had to do with them not taking a wide receiver and maybe just maybe the Green Bay packers felt like there guys were going to develop. So Davante Adams the table center he's obviously to number one, but we saw. Makes Plays Markey's Valdez Ganley make some plays and get down to feel we saw Aaron Rodgers threw it to other guys and allow those guys to make plays, and so as you're developing the chemistry with these young wide receivers, maybe just maybe they felt like these guys were going to take a step forward and based on how they played against the Minnesota Vikings those. Young receiver certainly stepped up with Devante Adam certainly leading the way I was just thinking as we kind of wrap up this takeaway reminded me of kind of an open gym. The one guy walks in and you've got people trying to congregate and assemble their teams and the one guy just give me four dudes man I'm GonNa, go out here just run this way. that was Aaron Rodgers in this game but I thought nailed it when he was talking about the fact that no pressure air rogers as a seven on seven throw with no pressure there's nobody better. Pick you apart exactly what he did in this football game. So you gotta be encouraged if you're the Green Bay packers, you got to be a little discouraged with the lack of pass rush. If you're the Minnesota Vikings Everson Griffen, no longer there whereas that pass rush going to come from. So that's going to be a big big challenge that team need to get healthy upfront some other injuries well, all right next takeaway for me. Keep it on the quarterback theme here Josh Allen still running the show. It's a play fake Alan. He's got a wide open elaine. Touchdown great play action fake by Josh Allen extending that ball so that all the is could see about to give it off. He pulls it back in goes the opposite direction nobody there to touch. This is the buffalo bills team that beat up the New York jets really on both sides of the line of scrimmage, and that physicality also comes from the quarterback position, which is what's unique about their offense I thought we might see Josh, Allen dial some of that back did not happen with very aggressive as a runner, but still threw for over three hundred yards I thought he. Did a nice job with taking what was there but being selectively aggressive when he had opportunities but Bucky, they're not they're not going to be able to rein him in as a runner. Thankfully, he's so big and so strong and so sturdy. He's been able to hold up but man it is it is an aggressive brand of football. The Way Josh Allen plays at the quarterback position. He's early played a very aggressive style not said this. I believe the McDermott and Brandon beane and those guys like Josh, Allen because he could certainly due to a lesser degree some of the stuff that Cam Newton did when the Carolina Panthers went to. The Super? Bowl. That offense task success I think they've replicated to a degree in buffalo and Josh, Allen, is what he is as a quarterback. He's a guy that is a streaky passer when it comes to his accuracy when he makes up with makes up for with his running ability in his over off visit galleon toughness I think that endeared him to his teammates but also puts defensive coordinators and You have to defend the quarterback run game dealing with the buffalo bills, and that is one of the reasons why sometimes we see these wide receivers run free because everyone is really in a dilemma when it comes to defend this office. Yeah another other takeaway from this game to Mario Addison some of these players on this buffalo defense. You don't hear a lot about man they got so many good solid players that play hard and they're productive. He was one that jumped off the tape to me when I watched him just a very competitive player coming off the edge and then I thought man the other takeaway from that Sam darnold terrible. They could get anything going offensively for the jets. They didn't get separation down the field they have no speed in the backfield. It was a rough showing there for the jets and Oh. Lucky them. They get the niners next week who are going to be a little bit a little bit upset coming off their loss on a cardinals not a great start for the jets. All right buck. What's your next one? Got One in the AFC south? Force. In Jacksonville youth is served play fake. You looked fires quarter of the end zone wide open Keelan cold's GonNA walk into the end zone touchdown. Jacksonville the Jags have taken the lead with five fifty six to play in the ball game right way by the offense. Great response. Dj is funny because you never know when you don't have free season, you can't see these teams play before you just don't know and so when the reports come out of the Jackson has sixteen rookies on their opening day roster, you like, how are they ever going to compete and here's what I'm saying they played. They played from beginning to end. Did a great job of giving the energy effort that Doug Monroe wanted GonNa Miss. You was on fire this game plan Jay Gruden had a lot of screens lot of sideline to sideline stuff. It was almost as if I was watching Menchu back at Wazoo and then the young guys that they played. stood out CJ Hinson was terrific and coverage head three. US. Also had an interception and then the undrafted free agent they had and running back James Robson stepped up ninety scrimmage yards, seventeen touches because of their young guys being able to step up they not off team that we're talking about being one of the top teams in the AFC just didn't see this has often Doug Monroe forgiveness his young guys to play so hard. Red I'd love to get your thought on that because watching that game man you Kinda, got the full Philip rivers experience on the other side as well. You got to three hundred plus yards a bunch of big plays. But then you had those two throws you just you can't have those mistakes well, and I was talking to Dania Tomlinson about it on Game Day live yesterday his former teammate Philip rivers when they were together with the chargers and I was like This is kind of why the chargers were. Okay. Leading Philip rivers move on because yes. While he will put up some numbers and put up some points and put up some yards, it's the turnover that you can't live with now they went down there that I drive I was like all right this familiarity with Syria with Frank Reich. Really he's GonNa pay off. That I drive was perfectly executed. Naim hinds become the forgotten man in this offense with Marlin Mac and Jonathan. Taylor we didn't even hear from China Taylor until Marlon Mac got hurt with the ruptured Achilles. That's terrible news by the way but now they got Taylor in. I don't think that we've heard the last of the Indianapolis Colts think if Philip can find a way to just pull back a little bit I know that's not in his DNA. Dj, you know that as well as anybody. But the other thing I thought was funny on the Jags side of things each was was watching Gardner Mitsu. You know after the game you know this guy just lives for every moment I, love I love how passionate he is a love his energy. And then he said after watching James Robinson Hurdle I, forget who it was on defense and then run for about twenty five yards reception. He said he turned and looked to right tackle John Taylor. He's like who is this guy? I'm you like literally You know like I. Think we. Cutler for. All right. Also the steamboat they're figuring out a way to do it also viscous should all of us pretty impressive as Big Time. With official but they've got a lot of speed a lot of speed on that Jaguar team, both sides of the ball young inexperienced but man, what a great start for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Well, we mentioned it during the off season when we were talking about the Arizona Cardinals Bucky and myself, I'm no you have an opportunity here. Before we get to this takeaway, you can join the move the sticks Pinky promise, which is the fact that we are all in on the zone cars. We're not bailing on them they're going to the postseason we were on policies and started. Put You pick you up there that means you're in and. One of the reasons we're feeling good today is not just because we had a great Sunday football it's because the Pinky promise thus far is looking good snap to murray straight dropback with time throws to the right wide open. Hopkins caught a twenty farsight Ted five. Welcome to the Valley Nuke De'andre Hopkins just fourteen catch catcher. The day I had an executive inside the NFC west after I posted some cuyler Murray runs this morning on twitter. He called me and said, please don't post anymore those giving me nightmares having to watch this guy run around and he brought up a great point and it's like watching Russell Wilson and fast four. That's what it looks like he's a he's a faster more dynamic more explosive Russell Wilson as a runner who does a great job protecting himself as well. It doesn't take any shots and now you've got a legitimate number one wide receiver, Andre Hopkins. Buck we mentioned with fact, we were on this team and I think tyler was a big part of that Hopkins. But then you also have a defense with some with some playmakers on that side of the ball as well. Defense stood up. You know we've seen the same CISCO FORTY niners running game give opponents problems, but they did they couldn't get their way up front. The Arizona cardinals were able to impose their will air but to keep the run again contain and that in turn put the game on Jimmy. Garoppolo showed. Anybody who is facing the forty niners that's what you want. You want to make Jimmy Garoppolo make plays when everyone in the stadium knows he has to make those plays and he wasn't able to do it. But to go back to your point about Calamari, Calamari is so dangerous because he has that Pat Mahomes like feel in terms of his arm talent but he's More, dynamic as a runner and playmaker, and then you pointed out because you said this on twitter of those what thirteen runs twelve of those, he didn't get touched. He was either able to slot or school or get out of bounds, his baseball ability in his awareness knowing what's going on around him that's what makes them dangerous because he doesn't put himself in harm's way. The thing that I took away from this and watching cuyler. Because I was I was caught up watching the bucks and the saints in Bengals in the chargers during this this afternoon window. So going back watches DJ's instagram feet. That's that next gear top gear that he hit on the touchdown run at the very end. I don't know that I've seen anything like it. Dj that next year the HE I don't know that there are people out of their players out there that have that ability. I think it was Jimmy. Ward that was chasing him down towards the goal line and I mean he just he at five yards of separation like that? What does it say about his West Division? Nausea say it like Derrick rose. Just it just stupid explosiveness. To have he's he's running he has to come almost to a dead stop. He's got a defender chasing him at full speed. He looks out of the corner of his is season for account, and then boom emilee separates like four yards. Was Freaky to watch his acceleration there. So. What does it say about the NFC west that the last place team in the division just not the defending champions what does that say about the competitive? Get the buck on that I wanNA. Eat The book on that because last year we forget Arizona cardinals played the niners tougher than anybody last year putting twice played tough could've beat them twice. So I don't know that this should be a big surprise anybody. This is a team that is very dangerous as they start figuring things out under cliff. Kingsbury. Near to book. This is a team telling me man, this is scary group. Very scary group just loved the way they're putting together give cliff Kingsbury credit because he is certainly adapted and adjusted to the NFL game. We're seeing a little more balanced Kenyan drake is the perfect running back for what they WanNa do and defensively all eyes were on Vance Joseph what was he going to do to a defense that was very disappointing a year ago this defense. Has stood up I like the way they're deploying their major playmakers as Simmons you could see him in action to the Baker, Patrick, Peterson, channel Jones. They have enough to give people problems and as long as customers able to get this off and is going up and down the field man. They don't play a bunch of shoot us and they can win a ton of games. A Dj one last thing before I. Get to this last takeaway here on a positive note for the forty niners, how was it see Jerick McKinnon and get into the end zone after not playing snap last two years. That's awesome. Awesome. Hats off to him for for just showing that stick to it of nece in that work ethic to get himself back in ready and get on NFL. Feel wouldn't accomplishment for him easy to root easy to root for that guy how about the final take away the day here what you have. Well. Okay here we go. The Atlanta Falcons the best onside kick football team in the NFL onside kick attempt to the far side Falcons that the falcons execute the onside kick brilliantly. Now, you can't advance onside kick. It was caught in stride by foyer con at beautifully executed onside kick gives the Falcons the ball back. So look guys look. Let me just give you the numbers here. Okay the Falcons onside kick recovered. You're against the seahawks their third since two, thousand eighteen. That's the most by any team since the role restricting player movement ahead of the actual ball being taken off the t a couple years ago went into place there three for Ted when attempting onside kicks that's like hall of fame batting average numbers here. Okay. We're talking baseball. So the problem is you will want to be that good at. Dick's you don't WanNa, have attempt them that many times but that's the case the falcons have been in especially early part of last season. They trailed from the jump. In this game you're against the seahawks felt like they were desperation. Moot. Desperation mode early, and that of course is because of the game plan that Brian Schottenheimer put into place for the seahawks where you know they sticking out firing in the past game was surprised me a little bit in made a name for themselves running the football a specially last year Chris Carson Company. He caught two touchdown passes in this game early and the Russell Wilson just absolutely magnificent again with the all. Decay metcalf but I thought overall the seahawks office just absolutely overpowered as Falcon Steam. Then again, Bucky has too much talent to be sitting here in. Kinda getting blown out at home and we WANNA. This is a tough one, thousand, four Falcons fans because you're excited about all of the talented they had on offense but then you look up Matt Ryan has fifty four pass attempts that is not a game plan that's conducive to them winning particularly against high teams, they never could get control of the game because defensively, they couldn't slow down the seahawks and then we talk about Russell Wilson Russell Wilson being magnificent thirty one for thirty, five over three, hundred yours. There's a movement faction of fans the twelve had been begging and clamoring for Caroline Bradshaw Hammer to let Russ Cook would let cook. On Sunday and they got off to a fast start. I. Think you'll see Russel Wilson in the kitchen a little more. We're up some nice dishes as. Well the chef chef there had four incompletions and four touchdown so when those Equal I definitely think you need to invest more money in the kitchen and Cook to put it to put it mildly they're absolutely Deserted in there why not it? Dj for the Falcons like look, they had more first downs or passing yards, total yards we're offensive plays higher third down conversion rate, only one real turnover in this game, and yet they trail virtually the whole time. That's just. Can't have those day you keep having these things for the Falcons where they have to come back in the landscape of the game and in the entire season. loosly. Well. They've tried to invest now year after year they've tried to invest in the past Russian and coverage and year after year those same issues and those same words keep showing. So I look at week one that's the good news. It's weekend one. Don't overreact. If you're a fan of any of these teams that lost this be patient, it's a long season. So a lot of football, a lot of great football. We had an opportunity to watch on Sunday a couple more games coming up Monday. We've got an intriguing match-up coming up on the short week on Thursday. You can find the youtube content we have. NFL DOT COM or sorry YouTube dot com slash NFL podcast check us out there as well. He's Bucky Brooks I'm Jeremiah Rhett Lewis joined us as well. Thank you guys so much for watching. We'll see you next time right here on move the sticks.

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RB News (Le'Veon's Weight, Jacobs' Catches, Gurley's Workload) and Mailbag (08/15 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS sports. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie Heath Ben. Running back news around the NFL and the fantasy community. Levy on bell is lighter. The Workload Todd Gurley might be a little bit later in Training Camp Josh Jacobs Katie actually catch sixty passes take the under. But Hey, he wants to get there and Marlin Mac we have some insight on the colts running back situation with Frank Reich saying Mac as the starter but that the running scituate running back situation is going to be we can week in week out hot hand all those things that good news for. Jonathan Taylor welcome to fantasy football today you're listening on Saturday it's Friday right now for us Adam as mazer with Dave Richard and Jamie. Eisenberg. Happy. Weekend guys. How's it going? It's going good. Yeah I'm sitting right next to my pool that has yet to be built and. Wishing I was in it. Mellow. I'll go the hospital. Okay. Cool. Well. We don't want that Dave now to get time to be go to the hospital, some people might it sounds like but now. All right. So we got all that running back news. We're GONNA talk the tight end contracts as well and some tight end fantasy value. But Dave running back news out of do you think is the most? Consequential. I don't know if any of them are consequential didn't the one that might have the most meaning, and by most I mean not very much is what's happening with Marlin Mac and the colts in fact that they're saying that he's going to be the starter and I I think we knew that that was going to be the case and that John Taylor was going to mix with them. But those two are gonNA split rushing downs work to begin. The season Naim might says the passing downs work they know that they like him in that role and it just makes me ill. Draft on the Taylor I've got to have the same mindset with him as I had with mile, sanders in Devon Single Terry last year. There is a chance that he will be almost worthless to my fantasy roster through the first six to eight weeks of the season. You think so. There's a chance I think yeah I, think there's a chance you don't think so no, not at all. I think the hot hand was basically jumped delegate the job it's yours. You know he's got. There's a Benz talked about this a lot their schedules favorable. Their run script should be favorable. Offensive Line is fantastic. John Taylor is not going to watch Marlon Mac get twenty plus touches. He's GonNa probably get almost an even rushing downs workload would be my anticipation and so once you see those guys on the field and how they operate MARLA. Mac is a good player. I had Stephen Holder covers the colts from the Athletic Conference football today and he said you know he thinks a little bit as may be made too much of this is probably were Dave, comes down to this step. Marlin mass is going to sit on the bench and I totally he's a bench, but I don't think we're once you get to. Watch these guys operate and what Cha the Taylor looks like compared to what Marlin Mac looks like You're GONNA see a different player and so my guests is Frank Reich is is not wanting to say which he shouldn't because again Marlin MAC hasn't been bad. By any stretch but you gotta chest upgraded the position, and so I I think we'll see Mac do his thing. But I don't think he's GonNa take six to eight weeks by any stretch for John Taylor to be your fancy lineup. I. Think it's going to be probably two or three weeks before we start to use them. Well, that's optimistic and I never said that any of these either these guys will get twenty carries on their own, but it could be a situation where Taylor only gets like. Ten in week one and twelve and week to lay. I don't think he's coming in house afire like he gets the hot tag from from morandi savage in the Togan clearinghouse I don't think it's going to be like that I think you're gonNA see a legitimate split, and if he makes any mistakes that splits GonNa last longer and I think the fact that the schedule being easy which I agree with I think that helps maxed out in the field longer because he shouldn't struggle there's not going to be an excuse for him to get booted off until Taylor is something to boot him off. So follow up on this. Okay. We've seen like let's take Joe. mixon rookie year. I'm just GONNA pull up his game log but I think it was week three or four when they were like all right your turn Joe Mixon and then he was basically the guys I recall. Nick Chubb didn't really hit any work until they traded Carlos Hyde and then they completely turned nick. When the time comes if the time comes that Jonathan Taylor is basically the starter. Does he get fifteen touches because I think we are already a little concern about his involvement in the passing game at least on third downs because from nine am hines. But What does he fall into this kind of trap where he's just Kinda like gets thirteen carries one or two catches and Is Super Valuable like he's worth star. You know what I mean does he ever get a full? Yeah Right. Right. Because it's not like Max going to completely go away. Do you think that John Taylor ever gets thrust into a role where he is just he's just dominating touches. No I don't think we're GONNA see more than you know fifteen to eighteen on a on an optimistic scenario if McAfee. And I I know I said this a few weeks ago I wouldn't be surprised if maybe Max Scherzer cut into hines work on passing downs and maybe that's something that they do to keep them involved because look hines is average fifty, four catches each of the last two seasons he hasn't done a lot with it, and so you know I I I'm I'm a optimistic Nineteen Hines observer I'm hoping that he can be. Successful in this passing downs role that we've seen from Philip rivers who has gotten six running backs at least seventy five or more targets in season. and. Maybe Mac that guy 'cause they did use them more in passing downs role as a rookie than they have in the previous two seasons. So we'll see we're we're Taylor's workload comes out but I I just think that when you watch these two guys in how one should run versus how one has run. Behind this offensive line with a better quarterback scenario I rent John Taylor Force Frank Reich San Jose. Okay. This is your hot hand. Why are you not giving me the ball more? So maybe Joe mixon scenario. Maybe it's what you know Mark Ingram was a year ago where he wasn't getting a ton of work, but he was so efficient with that work You know that's what I'm hoping for with John. Taking him around three is a mistake taking around four is if you're? In the camp of this is GonNa be the best running back to the colts and maybe one of the best running backs of the season. Taking him around five is still. Okay Joe Mixon by the way, eight carries and week one as a rookie nine carries and we two and then the next three weeks eighteen seventeen and fifteen carries with a combined seven catches in those three games he didn't actually do that well, and then as workload was reduced a little bit. But it was week three when they said all right Joe Mixing. It's your turn Dalvin Cook. Think like right out of the gate got right yeah he was he was different right? He was the one out of the gate from Minnesota. There's one other point I just have to make and it's pro Jonathan Taylor when Naim hines was a rookie. Colts put him on the field right away and he wasn't a ballyhooed second round pick. He was a day three pick and they were using them to catch us right away as a rookie. So if the colts are willing to do that with Nike minds, then Taylor should be able to play a lot as a rookie too. So the opportunity, it's really just GONNA come down to if something happens to Mac, something happens behind doors open for Taylor go and run wild, and I'm not downplaying his talent either. I just hope we can hold onto the football. Yeah. You'd better pass catcher and then he'd be amazing he he could end up being a top twelve running back if he really gets a huge opportunity. Alright. Jamie. Levian says he was a little complacent last year. He's lost weight. He's not making excuses and todd Gurley they might be limiting his workload in training camp and his workload was already pretty limited. Last year is carries per game were way down his yards per catch his yards per carry were awful compared to years past and we know there's this chronic knee issue. So who do you now take earlier levy on bell or Todd Gurley? I'm still gonNA take Todd Gurley. But if we get to a point where the thing about the limiting his workload didn't really worry as much because why would you want WanNa overwork him. In this scenario of things you know he's he's got to get the install with the offense and knowing what he's doing but he spent a Lotta time with Matt Ryan after what Ryan told us on CBS. Sports HQ. I think if the thing that came out of the story about him at some point walking with a noticeable limp is the problem. Then that's the bigger concern. So if that continues to be an issue. And you today. Hear those type of reports. said when he was in New Jersey look fine. But you know whatever is maybe bothering him is bothering him off the field. That would be the bigger concern for me. Levy on bell is not necessarily a LEVY ON BELLY ISSUE LEVY ON BILL is not engaged issue and so. If Adam Gates can commit to levy on Bell I think he could have a good season maybe a great season. But. But he did he did commit to him last year and he was terrible. He was still lucile and fantasy though, but he committed to them last year. Almost by default memorable alcohol was hurt. They didn't really have anybody else to sorta turn to whatever the reason is I mean he he got a full work. You cannot have any complaints about the amount of work levy on Bell Guy and he was. Only good because of the workload, but he was really is worst year ever yeah but. Look they revamped their entire off offense a lot of the he could be worse. Along Sam Darnold for three games again said this time and time again, we don't know when he was healthy coming back from the model situation you know when was one hundred percent? they add to receivers to replace one, they get tight and back on the field who has chance to be really good and this is all good for Levy on bell. This is very good for the. Receivers and Say. Well. What did he have Pittsburgh? Did you have a bad team around him or a good team around him? He was saved player and he had a great offensive line yes and this offensive line will be better than what was a year ago because Okay. Okay. That'd be worse. That's why I stopped myself. That either Levy on Belle are todd Gurley are good anymore. If Lebanon were in the right situation, he could be a top twelve fantasy running back. On Lost Weight, I think that's always a much better situation. You know this is not a Ronald Jones criticism but I think whenever running backs put on weight as opposed to what they do when they lose weight you always see them come in and they have better seasons. It happened to levy on bell. He said he was overweight and his rookie season he came back the second season and he had a monster campaign I'm reading a report right now from. Rich Cimini, who covers the jets for ESPN levy on bell says the best apis career getting a lot earlier on he looks fifty burst on outside runs and so there's there's a pattern that's for me. Here of he rededicated himself he comes in the way he played in high school. There's motivation there. Remember he took a year off. So we don't know how much rust there was from from last year and just how bad your hit I love you out. Yeah. I. Haven't changed my rankings. I haven't changed the way I did draft him in that in that A. was twitch they might have been switch. Me On. But in round four. And in some cases around five, it's the same conversation as Leonard Fournette. Sometimes, you just take value in its presenting you in the face and so. He's GonNa get work. Frank wars is going to ruin him to a certain extent. This is what I mean by that gays problem. So we're GONNA see Levy on come off the field in some situations that are going to be really frustrating but he still going to get the most work of that back though he's still going to be a guy is going to get a lot of opportunities. It's just what Will Adam Gates due to ruin what Levy on bells ceiling because you and that's the problem you have levy on Mealey's. Okay so we're seeing you guys are still girly over bell though. I am non-pwi pr I can't do it in full PR and they're back to back in non PR. So I'M NOT GONNA. Beach the Baseball Bat. If you say that you'll take bell I but I the offensive line's going from the worst in the League second worst in the League to maybe it's still in the bottom ten for sure. and. He had a career low and touches last year twenty point seven per game like we talked about. That's what carried him. The the finish said he had an Gore averages around ten carries per game when he's on a team and there was evidence of that when he was with Ason Miami, he did last year in buffalo although that did slide a little bit toward the end of the year. It is going to hurt Levian and Michael Ryan could end up hurting Levian this is a masks I'm GONNA get traded. Trade let's go to a team that's a playoff contender and. Let them. Let them run his patient style behind a better offensive line. Then I'll be way more excited about him. Also think early in both as long as again this doesn't seem to become a worse situation for his knee. The one thing about it is his passing game work could bounce back in a big way. With the voucher. That's all the all the throwing that they're going to do and Matt Ryan was so excited about it. You know you just tell his voice like we're GonNa do some different things with him and the offense and you matt to be covers the Falcons also joined us on HQ and he said Saint Thing that they're gonna be a little bit more creative in their opportunities with him in the Past game. So I don't know if he gets back to again peak early two, thousand, seventeen girly even the early part of twenty eighteen girly but he can get close to that fifty special was I think he can then you're gonna be happy about he was terrible working out of the Backfield as a pass catcher last year he just didn't get as many opportunities I think the upper. Do go up and I'm not sure how to process Dan Quinn saying that he's going to have to run backs as his number two running back that he's GonNa Veto Smith and Brian Split that role right like he didn't even mention the other guys that he's got he's got Qadri Allison and the last guy, their name escapes me right now but they're kind of deeper run about this big battle yet. Thank you They've got this big battle for WHO's GonNa end a really being the number two but if they've got two guys as the number two. I mean does that really mean that they've got three guys in that backfield until he gets hurt of course, and then they're back down to two. A girly still makes me nervous still not somebody I'm excited to draft. But if he's there at the right part in the draft, if he's there, you know round four around five the same rate as Lebanon the you gotta look at them. You got to consider him. He's still a number two running back based on. You know optimism. Work in a better offense wrapping off, shoot better rushing offense. Should we take James Connor and Chris Carson ahead of both Todd Gurley and Libyan bell yes. Yes. Okay. Good. then. Long as long as carson situations. Okay. Running with death in the family left team. You know hopefully he's back soon obviously, our our thoughts are with his. He's dealing with, but I think, Boven Gordon should go ahead of them. Two guys we have a lot more to get to and not that much time. So go quicker here Josh Jacobs, saying he wants to catch sixty passes this year sixty or more. Did that make you move him up at all? No but I was already excited about him and this is I think just another Affirmation of they're going to involve them the passing game more. He's not getting sixty catches that's just ridiculous but does he now have a chance for in the thirty to forty range I think. So you know for a guy that had twenty catches as a rookie in thirteen games. They're gonNA use daily resort we we don't know what they're gonNa do is Bowden but I think Joe. Boden Bowden whatever the hell voted rookie. Lynn be they're going to clearly make an a an attempt to get Jacobs the ball in the passing game more. So he is a easy first round pick in non PR leaks and he should be a first round pick NPR's while here's a quote from Jon Gruden. We've gotta get more out of Josh as a receiver. That was from September Twenty Third Twenty nineteen. What happened in the four games? After that quote he had ten catches for seventy four yards in four games that would have obviously been a forty catch pace I think sixty is a little much but I do think he can improve on the rate that he had last year his receptions went down after the tour games. It's like Girton forgot even said anything. But I think if you pencil men for thirty five catches. SAFE that's improvement. That's good. He's definitely first round pick and non. Pr. is He pr Davante Adams or Josh Jacobs? Atoms for me in at. Travis Kelsey Josh Jacobs. Jacob. I will take Kelsey. Interesting Okay and that's your running back news. Some quick wide receiver notes. John Ross is on the Reserve Cova nineteen lists. Hopefully, he's back soon and Doug Peterson said that Greg Ward is in the mix at wide receiver. He you know he was certainly usable at the end of last year Greg, Ward but they have more mouths to feed now D- by this. Fantasy Relevance for Greg Ward for the Eagles last pick in a best ball it probably wouldn't hurt receiving core to potentially avoid. Thanks for telling me this now, Dave when I've just finished my best ball draft cut retained your last pick. My nose out I think it was a mirror. Abdulah because of the return yards and just gets return yards near should take Greg Ward. May. Actually, like he had pretty good finish Jamie, you've got alshon with your last pick. Yeah. I think I, think that's why took or at least I meant to you. Longer on the board in mind. I like I said after A. Receiving. Court to. Avoid. All. Round Plan. Yeah. Okay let's see. Team Roster. Did I get Alshon Jeffery? I got I got Josh Jacobs I'll tell you that. Is. Thirty. Five receptions No I did not get him. So I totally lie to you. I Got Caja. Dave. WHAT'S UP Oh. Yeah we still got. Three more rounds. Wow. I. Think Nick Foles by last big actually. Alright. Well, anyway. Might be okay in this best ball draft I got high Mile Sanders and Josh Jacobs with I two picks at eleven th pick. And Last night, you'll be you know how I love Mile Sanders last night I was just watching Mile Sater's highlights that I was just smiling like this is going to be self usually save that for Saturday night. He is so good in the passing game. That's what I was noticing I mean he gets down field. He's a killer on wheel routes they will use him in the past. I, just I mind Buffalo. Everything what he did against Dallas. In my mind it's Brazil versus centers ever the rest of Myo Sanders and like I. Think if everything goes absolutely right for both of them clydes probably better. But I do think Sanders has a higher Florida you guys agree with that. Sure. Yes. There's no scenario. Where is not a workhorse? I feel. no, he should be I mean. I don't think that Boston Scott Corey climent are going to take them off the field for a significant stretch. drooling so more news. No Saints Fans for the home. Opener Chicago Safety Jackson is GonNa play some wide receiver that's Weird Joe. Montana had a good quote about Jimmy Garoppolo he thinks he's going to be better without the knee brace. And Montana said I had six clean outs in my knee and they wanted me to wear a brace and you just can't get used to it. Hopefully, you see a fresher different player this year although he had a pretty good year last year I'm looking forward to him doing the same thing. Brady get you still wearing any brace. I guess but this is Montana's Tata's like the greatest quarterback ever what the hell was Tom Brady. WE'LL DISNEY'S PRACTICING The cowboy I was cool. That's cool. Is a cool. Yeah. I think I mean we'll see what's happening there. They're going to have a lot tied instant mix and match. I don't know if any of them will be good for fantasy, but they'll help us every time deadliest played. He's been good. He just gets hurt with. The cowboys signed Everson Griffen they have a very interesting defensive line of guys were probably passing past their prime. But could be really good. I don't think Everson Griffin's necessarily past his prime. I think you can still get a good a very good year out of them. You know what? That's what I thought. But how does he go this far without getting any contract you know because the team On sign right but he's going to a lot more than got a pretty fair deal. No, I. Don't think he. I don't know if they'll have that opportunity to. But I think people are worried about Griffin's mental state after what happened in Minnesota Eighty. Well it was a good signing I. Think for the cowboys for sure xavien Howard Miami, cornerback, he's on the reserve. Cova. One thousand nine list. Let's see. Kema civil end for the seahawks rookie special teamer. He has been waived for sneaking girl into the team hotel and disguising her as a seahawks players or members t better you. Got Some stuff from the conversations. We've had some beat writers if you like. I think you guys have to go soon and I need to read emails. So we save those. Yeah that's pretty much and Kelsey and kittle. Signing their contracts and then we have this twitter question from the fantasy football today account at f today which tight end price is your favorite Kelsey early round to kit a late round to Earth's early round for Andrew's late round for. Would you? Andrews Hey. That's what I voted for and that's the leader right now Andrew Thirty nine percent of the vote kittle thirty, two percent earth sixteen percent Kelsey thirteen and a half percent. Wow, Chelsea's lasted early around to thought for sure he'd be I thought he'd be second to Anders. Them. But it's not round one. Still, getting a really good player before you get killed, we'll see yeah I think I guess people don't really see that big of a difference between. Cattle and Kelsey and they're going to go with and ran late round to compared to. Calcium early round to. All right. Let's. Let's read some emails here at fantasy football at CBS DOT COM I we're gonNA take a quick quick break. Come back read your emails on your apple podcasts questions. Support for this podcast comes from state farm with surprisingly great rates. 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Would you eat spaghetti without a fork exactly then don't play fantasy baseball without fantasy baseball today listen weekdays on Apple Podcast, spotify Stitcher, and wherever else podcast found but by. Email here from terence on your podcast. Could you give a little detail when it comes to formats? Is My draft in my. Draft based more closely to non or full PR. I think it just depends on the player you know so. Derrick Henry I think is is. Not As dinged. In this format James, white gets a little bit of a boost as a result as well. So it just kinda comes down to specific for me. But if you're looking for a ranking skied, I'd probably lean toward P pr. Yes and non PR. The one player that I like I've identified as. Having for me a lot more solidified value in half as mixing because he's not Henry. He's not going to get twenty catches. He's going to be more like thirty five, maybe forty catches and he's got upside to get more than that. He necessarily will share based on the last couple of years thirty, five, forty catches maybe would be a safe estimate for mixing and in half pr it's really not that big of a downgrade from Zekan and Barkley who might be around sixty catches you know. So. I don't know I feel like big bigger. Mix since he's kind of in between the high catch running backs and the low catch running backs. Have P our first round. Pick. Mixing Yeah makes a first round pick in any format. Correct you think yeah. All right. Yes. Okay, then second email from mark in a city where. Is Not a top ten choice. New York has got to be I mean it's it's it's among the top choices for me no matter what city I'm in well. then. Dear. Oh, my Mommy Bambi and Rudolf. They are ears. Why do we keep splitting Cooper Cup season in half instead of thirds in his last five weeks, you call it twenty seven of thirty targets for five touchdowns. I don't know. It's going to be I'll tell you that Cup higby. The numbers are going to be so fascinating 'cause I don't know both can be sustainable higby or you mean from the last five weeks of the season. I don't think it's going to be as. You know let as not as uninvolved as he was and I don't think he's going to be as good. As he was. Think but I don't know how. I don't know if he's going to be half as good as he was. Well. Even if he's half as good as he was still really really good I think cup is is a no brainer. I can't stop drafting him I think that he's still a candidate for ninety catches and big time red zone threat hig check a little bit away from him. Yeah. Contract you're too. But I think B even if he did fifty percent of what they did in those last five games would be good enough to use as a reliable starter week in and week out he can be better than fifty percent not as good as under percents, not getting eleven targets per game but I do think he's I think he's got a chance to really be one of those top five fantasy tight ends. I think he's really I think he could be the next kill I look at him I see a lot of things that kill does this why did it takes a long? That's a problem. Because the rams had a better running game. More reliable running game they wanted him to block in that regard. I think they tried to get Gerald ever going I and I just I think that that experiment is still you know. GOING ON I don't know if Everett's GONNA end up being great ever but they've got a lot of other viruses, brandin cooks on top of woods and cut. And I think the decision to feed those guys in attack downfield with them versus utilize. WHO's not as fast as a wide receiver I think that made sense. But even when cooks came back, they weren't using the same way. He wasn't as effective and they just start us higby and their offense kind of perked up hit golf started to play better their matchups were better as well. They are going to have a lot of those same matchups this year you say what you want about Seattle and Arizona improving their secondary Seattle especially, we'll be tougher but I I still see Igby is an a center and I think it'll be good if you're drafting him in round seven around eight or later you're doing awesome Colin from Bruce Cities says. Hey. Curley Vince Mike and Matt. Packers coaches come on guys. If. I drafted running backs to act as starters earlier in the draft. Is there a point in drafting a floor pick like Torri Cohen to sit on my bench? My instinct is to prefer high upside handcuffs or rookies who could be league winners rather than someone who is more likely to be a low grade by week replacement than anything else Agreed. Yeah. Three call and that's going to be interesting is with John Depot there because we know when he likes to do running back since we're on to those guys and so you know it's going to hopefully help David Montgomery clearly but three going gets back to anything that he was two years ago then he is going to end up being A. Just di Filippo's not the play caller this time. Yeah. He's got influence on the offense. I don't know if he's got that big enough of an influence on the offense, it is what I would. Just some big fat bumbling fantasy guy but that's what I would do if I were in Chicago is. Soon as you realize, Montgomery's not getting it done to start throwing mortar cohen. Let him make place one day I will reiterate just how Unprecedented. The success that Cohen had in two thousand eighteen was but not today more emails from Cameron Ten team. PBR League tenth pick. In my mock drafts I've gotten a lot of Julio Jones I. Feel He's a very safe pick at ten. Then I usually take mix inner sanders with my next pick who would you target with the last pick of the first round and the first pick of the second round I would I would target sanders or mixing, and then hope to get Julio and around two nights a ten team league. So he's the back to back picks. Oh okay. Well then. I honestly then I'd probably go mix and an sanders. Not Bad Jacobs in there too. and where Kleiber dealers going. But if he's falls to ten, you should be in that mix to. This John and a city north of Richmond Virginia. Bossa Massachusetts. Dear. Trent Joe Elvis and Tony. Those are cheese. Yeah. I'm in a pickle on a twelve team. In. Per Flex. No worst food ever super flex keeper League. I don't have a first or a second round pick but I do have Lamar Jackson. I've been offered one point five and two point twelve for Lamar. One point five could be A. Mile Sanders Joe Mixon and theoretically picked to twelve someone in the late fourth. Do you think this is a fair offer for Lamar Jackson I'm also keeping Zeke Yes now. It's a super flex. So I would say quarterbacks carry more value there. We've done super flex Max where Lamar Jackson goes earlier than one quarterback league. I think he carries a little bit more value here we to set. Oh, never mind never mind. He's trying to get Lamar Jackson right now. He's got Lamar. No, he's Scotland. Don't give them for that. Adam do you dislike relish as well as pickles or just pickles I don't know that I've ever had relish. But it doesn't look like. I could tell by the look that I wouldn't like it. What kind of sheltered life have you lived? Have you ever had ketchup and mustard? At the same time? I don't think I've ever had at the same time. But I've had them separately. Yeah. I don't really like mustard. Ketchup. Okay. These are some quick apple podcasts questions from Trap From Aka. Keep to in PR mahomes Josh Jacobs Dj More Leonard Fournette. Jacobs more. Does it matter now? Jacobs. From Cody Chris, I traded Mile Sanders and will fuller all my Gosh Ben Gray Chew I traded Mile Sanders and Willfuller for tyreek. Hill and Cooper. Cup. I only have Montgomery Dobbins Michelle. Gibson and Freeman running back now. And hate him he loves tyreek Hill. Everybody loves tyreek Hill and Cooper Cup is going to be good for a long time I assume this Keeper League I, say it's a good trade. Yes now turnaround and trade. tyreek hill or Cooper Cup for running back. But. Yeah you got better value from Phoenix Four, two four. What you know when I was younger catch up was the default condiment for hot by the way and at some point that switched to mustard and I don't really appreciate that. I'm joining a very deep. Superfly Dynasty League. I wanted to know how to value wide receiver versus quarterbacks. I know super, Flex Leagues Value Quarterback, much higher. But we start four wide receivers and a tight end wide receiver slot. and to flex along with two quarterbacks. Wow. Good Lord. So at this point at this point when I, see that I kind of throw out positions scarcity as a factor and drafts and I just I, almost default the best player available because you're going to be able to start all your first goodness like eight picks in your draft. Yeah. So are you thinking in a league like this where you have to start four wide receivers you can start up to seven and it is super flexible super flex. I'M GONNA. League. Like that where We start five wide receivers. Super Flex and another flex. Option. So. It's not far off. Is the question starting quarterbacks in the super. It's it's just as you go after quarterbacks early bird target receivers earlier. So the start this dice Lisa's startup drafts I think I got Carson Wentz in his rookie year. Round seven or eight like where would be getting Joe Borough. I'm trying to think I took I took Matt Ryan I think maybe around four or five. So. scoring matters to you know it's five point for passenger stumbling. So I think that some you gotta take out but you want to get one you're. Say probably two of your fifteen quarterbacks. Rotate Lisa Yeah but it's not a situation will ever like you want to top five quarterbacks you do need to build at the positions, right? especially with receivers like my first pick was Mike Evans. How many managers are in the League? I don't know but it's twenty eight man roster, four taxi squad spots you you are really devaluing quarterback. And you're starting so many players. So just keep that in mind I will say this though in it sounds like it's dicey in our league in this league with other analysts. The rookie draft is always like to a herber. Joe Borough those guys were Top. APEX. All. Right. Well, we're out of here. Thank you. Guys were doing this bonus episode very much appreciated. Make sure you're watching fantasy football today live noon eastern Monday through Friday on CBS sports Q. Download the. 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Tom Brolley - FantasyPoints.com

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

32:29 min | 1 year ago

Tom Brolley - FantasyPoints.com

"It's time to eat. Four sit down and get ready to consume an abundance of fantasy football knowledge from Ross, Tucker and Joe Dolan me now. On the fantasy, feast and podcast, yeah, let's eat. Baby is the fantasy feast eaten podcast, and he is the man Joe Dolan from fantasy points dot com, speaking of fantasy points dot com use the code feast all caps, and then send it to me. Ross at Ross Tucker, dot, com number one. The websites awesome number to it's to. JOE WORKED FOR NUMBER THREE IF If you send it to me. You can try to go against me and Joe in our next best ball draft. We are just about I think I'm fifteen rounds in thirteen rounds in Joe of our may best ball draft. I'm clearly going to win I. Mean it's I don't even know if it's worth talking about at this point I have suggested to everybody else. On the draft that they should just quit at this point I mean I got Matthew Stafford Joe Borough! Christian McCaffrey. 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College but today I'm actually in Cambria County and the county seat here, so we have the entire state surrounded here on this podcast. Nice. Okay well I'm in Harrisburg, so yeah, this is I might say I'm just going to go ahead and say it. This is the greatest three-man central Pennsylvania fantasy podcast there's ever been. Ever! We got district three in district six covered here today. Nice Tom, you know your district's Oh my Gosh Tom. You might be my new best friend I love. I wasn't reading for quite a bit for for one summer working for the Reading Eagle so I know the area quite a bit and covered school, football and Wilkes-barre Altoona and in central Pennsylvania so I know a little bit about a high school football in Pennsylvania. That is amazing I love it very very cool. Okay so. Let. We thought we would dive into with you. Tom And I'm going to ask both you guys this question, but your rookie props and I guess let's start with this from your perspective time. This is the fancy feast podcast I think everybody. Listening knows that we have the money betting podcast and that these rookie prop bats are bets that people can make at draft kings using the code, Ross or wherever they can make these bets my question for you. Tom Is people that aren't in abetting their only into fantasy football. How can they use your prop? BET breakdowns to help them with their fantasy drafts. Yeah, I mean I. Think it's a good style. Always use them. They're kind of a good starting-point I do this during the season. As well they set these player totals, it gives you indication of. What you know, sports books are thinking they. They have their pulse on everything. That's going on around the League so. We'll see guys that have higher you know. Receiving totals on some receivers got guys up at eight hundred nine hundred yards, and then some guys that you might consider in the same neighborhood might be down at six hundred fifty seven hundred yards, so I think it's a good spot. To weigh in, you know what exactly you know an educated sportsbook. They've been making money for a time out in Las Vegas. They know what they're doing, so they're not putting up frivolous lines so I I use it in my analysis as well I think it's a good data point to throw into into your analysis. All right, so joe, anyone listening or anyone that goes to fantasy points, and they look at Toms. You know propagates and what he thinks. How do they immediately use that information for a best ball, draft or a dynasty draft, or whatever so while what one thing you do here is is you can kind of use them both ways you can kind of use your fantasy analysis to try to win a little bit of money on some of these prop bets, and I don't think the full season prop bets are a whole lot differ- or are. As exploited as some of the single game prop that some of these sports books put out because they're doing a lot more analysis, but I think one thing that's important for you to consider here, and we're going to be talking about rookies on this particular podcast, and I've been drafting a lot of rookies, especially at the running back position in best balls am. I think what you do. Is You take a look at what the sports books are putting out there and trying to see if your analysis matches up if it's similar or if it's drastically different, and if your analysis is drastically different than what the sports books are putting up, then it's worth asking why. Why is my analysis so different and you have to ask yourself questions one example that I think we're gonNA. Get to and I'll have tom talk about that. In depth is our fantasy points projection for Jonathan Taylor. Taylor is far different it then his rushing yards projection in some of the sports book, so your question has to be wide, because it's Tom mentioned sports. Books wouldn't exist if they sucked it this. If they set bad lines, they would've gone out of business a long time ago. It doesn't mean that they don't set a bad one every now and again, and and you have to make sure your analysis at least if it doesn't line up with the other side, your fantasy analysis doesn't line up with the other side. To try to decide is my reasoning sound, or is there reasoning way more sound than than my reasoning? Am I trained? Am I being overly hopeful or overly negative? That's the question you have to ask yourself, and then, if maybe your lower on a player then then Vegas is or the sports books are. It's worth asking man. Should I be more aggressive on this player? It's a really interesting back and forth because you know the fantasy industry and the betting industry. If we sucked at this, we wouldn't exist so. It's a really interesting back and forth, and they do kind of go hand in hand. Are! Good. Yeah Want to add to that I'm looking at some of the player totals at quarterback in it. Also you know you find stuff that might be off in eighty P, and you know one guy. I'm looking at his job borough, his passing totals by the books or you know there are on par with guys like Aaron Roy Rogers and Carson, Wentz in Russell Wilson, but you know he's a guy. That's being drafted five six seven rounds after some of these guys so I mean he's. He's a screaming value in fantasy drafts right now. He's being undervalued at this point. I think his his. Eighty P is going to rise later in the summer. Once people you know figure out that Joe Pros a pretty good value, but the books they you know he's GonNa. Come in right from day one and be the starter and he's got a lot of good weapons, but you know. The fantasy market has been slow to catch up on that one. Yeah GIMME! GimMe a couple others Tom. That really jumped out to you I. Don't know if there's anybody else that quarterback or Running backs as well I know you did quarterback and running back in one series and then you did. Wide Receivers and defense in another article so out of the running backs and quarterbacks. Who are which are the ones that really stood out to you as good prop? And or places where you think there is a mismatch with what the over under is for a guy and his current ADP. Joe Touched on a little bit. You Know Jonathan Taylor with the colts. His his total right now is seven hundred rushing yards and. We've been pretty high on. We think there's a lot of potential there, but we've even seen Frank Reich this week say! We got one and one here. We got you know. Marlon Mac. Is still very much in the mix. Here Jonathan. Taylor's ADP is discontinued. Arise here. It's almost to a point where he's being overdrafted. He's a high, third, early, second and Lauda drafts that I've been in believe me I. I still like him a lot. I still think he's going to be the guy in Indianapolis. Spend a second round. Pick on them. If you don't have intentions on using him, but you know the betting markets are saying that you know it's probably going to be more of a split backfield here so. That's one guy in particular. Were I'm looking the other way like? Oh, maybe maybe the fantasy markets or a little bit too high on a guy like Jonathan Taylor Tom Yeah. Let's look at Clyde Edwards layer because we actually at fantasy points. We haven't projected a little bit below his rushing yardage total. It's not something so significantly below the rushing yard projection that I would be comfortable making a bet on it, but we haven't projected for nine hundred and fifteen rushing yards. Liz Lines about nine fifty. What was your? Your view here because we are very aggressive on Edwards Allaire, I've been drafting him in the second round of best balls. I know you're probably in the same in the same boat with Edward Allaire, but when looking at the betting markets, did you change any of your analysis with him because he certainly the most popular rookie running back for fantasy right now. Yeah. You're right I mean we're really high on it. Fantasy points. In and we haven't projected a nine hundred fifteen rushing yards in his line. You know it's been floating around that nine hundred fifty rushing yards area, but you know when I think of Claude Edwards Hilar- I'm really digging him because of his. Potential in the passing game here. We are Grand Barfield basically said that he's been the best. He's the second best receiving back coming out in the last five or six years since he started his yards created right behind Christian McCaffrey and that's really where I think he's GonNa. Make his biggest impact so. I'm still going to remain very high on him. It's going to be tough. To I'm not expecting God to come into the League, and catch seventy, seventy or eighty balls, but I think he's one rookie that can come in and really make an impact as a receiver the rushing total. We'll see where it is. I mean the the chiefs You know the Andy Reid is a pass first guy especially early in the game. But. you know. Maybe we'll see mix of Damian. Williams and Clyde Edward to lehrer in those rushing situation so I I do lean towards the under there, but I still have huge expectations of for him because of the passing game work that he's going to get. Right, so we talked Taylor we talked Edwards. Hilar- GIMME AT least Tom. One other running back whether it's De'andre Swift, or perhaps it's even camakers or someone a little bit later. Maybe it's a third or fourth round. Pick that you think there's value in in both terms of ADP inappropriate. Yeah. This guy doesn't really have any betting lines. You know some of these. These books are little slow right now. There's not enough information out there, maybe once turning camps around, but one guy. I've started to warm up a lot to the last couple of weeks. Because ADP just really hasn't risen all that much as camakers out in Los Angeles. And I think the sports books are telling us that. Hey, maybe we should be thinking about this guy pretty highly. They moved his a draftkings here. His his line to win. The rookie of the year now is at twenty two one. I'm not real sure where it was earlier this year, but Earlier this in May after after the draft, but I think it was more in the forty to fifty range. So that right? There is telling you. Hey, this guy, they sportsbook, sir, you know think that he's going to have a big role in this offense You know we've been talking to Adam Kaplan. Cosell with our Powell series at fantasy points, and they told us that you know he's. He could lead this backfield here He's the one eight right now and the books. Are you know you set up the hey, they could. This could be a little bit of a liability, so we got nakas number. Doubt so now. He's a twenty to one. That's one guy. I've really started the target heavily here in the fifth round in my best ball draft so far. Got It. What about let's get to some of the other positions that are out there. What about what about wide receiver? Wide Receiver is and that's a really tough position this year because you know, they need to get some chemistry with their quarterbacks and Hopefully we get some camps here at the end of June. It's it feels like we're trending in that direction, but. My initial reaction to all the of the receivers was to look towards the under, but Guy I kinda like as CD lamb in Dallas I think their offense is going to be thrown a lot this year. the cowboys defense is pretty shaky here and you know he's GonNa Stop Light Right into the lineup. I think he's GonNa play a lot. The slot. They had Randall Cobb leave in free agency went to Houston. He he at eighty three targets in Jason Whitten, left in Free Agency to LAS, Vegas and he left behind eighty-three targets right in the middle of the field. SA- right right? There is one hundred sixty six targets gone from last year in the middle of the field I'm expecting Blake Darwin to to do a little bit You know. Pick up a little bit that slack in the middle of field, but You know CD lab was deadly out of the slot last year at Oklahoma, I think he averaged up over six yards. Per reception per per route. Run out of the slot last year at Oklahoma. So I think he be a guy that comes in and makes an impact right away. You? Know Dak Prescott. Does have good chemistry with Michael, Gallup and Amari. Cooper but you know we've. We've Seen Amari Cooper disappear at times, and both those guys were on and off the injury report at at times last year, so. I kind of like see lamb over seven hundred and seven hundred in half, receiving yards in in his rookie season here. God, so you said something interesting at the start of that Tom that caught my attention. which is that you almost always like the unders on his rookie receivers. I wanted you to expand on that. Yeah. It's an especially this year just because of the circumstances but. I think the people in general have excitement about rookies. You know we. We spend subdue February March April preparing for the draft, and then the draft comes, and we spend three days. Talking about this, the prospects even more. Patient built for these guys and a lot more times often than not of rookies. To well in their first seasons and A Lotta Times for my dress like to really target second year. Guys that you know many of you know gone under the radar just underperformed and now that they have an extra year under their belt. Maybe they're more ready to contribute right away and know one guy I was really looking at is Jerry Judy. He was my favourite prospect at the receiver position coming out coming into the draft coming out Alabama last year. He fell behind rugs in the draft, which was a little little bit bizarre put. He landed in Denver with a very unproven quarterback and drew lock They, they think highly of them. If we look at what they did in the draft, a draft and Judy draft handler drab drafting Elbert. Oh, they're trying to put weapons around him, but. They already had Cortlandt Sutton. They had no offense who you know. He really flashed at times last year, so he's stepping into a situation where I just don't think it's ideal for him to to really have a breakout campaign as a rookie. His total sitting at nine hundred yards. I would lead towards the under on that one. I think he's going to have a little more difficulty really. If he's going to go up over nine hundred yards. Really you got to be the one be in that offense and. I. Don't expect Portland Sutton's production to really tail off I see no fan. As a guy that still rising here, so Jerry Judy is a guy I'm kind of fading a little bit here in year one. What about the guys that went? In the twenties, you know you've got just in Jefferson jalen Rieger Brandon. Any of those guys stand out to you. Yeah! Regular he he he stepping into a great situation in Philadelphia. The, Sean Jackson and he's thirty three years old extract. Stay healthy at this point career. Alshon Jeffery is in the same boat Questions. He'll be ready for the start of the season. Mates might start the year on the pop list. then it's a bunch of unproven guys. After that you know we. We know. They have urged and they've got her in the middle of the field. Those guys are going to command a lot of targets, but You know if there's one rookie receiver that could really explode in your one. I think it's rigor you know his total sitting around six fifty seven hundred yards depending on the book that you're looking at and. He's got a boomer boss, Guy I, I could also see them being a guy that maybe needs a year or two development before he really starts, spreads spread his wings in this offense, but. If there's one guy to bet bet on for really high upside. Maybe rigors the guy, maybe a look, maybe a look towards the offensive rookie of the year. We don't see a lot of receivers. Win The award but. Maybe that's maybe that's a spot. He's at twenty one on draftkings right now. Get a nice little return on that because I think he he's. He feels like he's going to be a very boom or bust type of a prospect for your one here. Up The guy that at A lot of eagles fans felt the eagles should have drafted. That's just in Jefferson from from Lsu I, think everybody kind of pigeonholed him. As the number four receiver in this class, there was the there was the big three of lamb, judy and rugs, and then there was Jefferson, but he lands in a really interesting spot. After the eagles draft Jalen Rigor, he goes to Minnesota, and I gotta be honest. I'm struggling with him A. A little bit it. He's a slot receiver at least was predominantly at Lsu there. He's already on a team. That's going to run a lot of twelve personnel in in theory I. Guess, that's why. The Eagles didn't draft him because they felt like he was mostly an inside receiver. What are your feelings on Justin Jefferson? What of the books think about him and add does that affecting how you're feeling about him for fantasy. Yeah I've I've really struggled with him as well. I tended to stay away from him in my best ball dress. Just don't don't really see the upside with him. He's not really a huge upside received to begin with I think he's predominantly a slot guy, but he's going to be asked to play on the outside here. Quite a bit. He's a bit redundant. I think with Adam the Adam feeling here. Has Been a guy that you know he can win on on the outside, but you know he's predominantly done most of his work. You know from the slot dorm. The you know the most part of his career here so. You know they're gonNA run a lot of twelve personnel on kind of expecting IRV Smith. He's been one of my I don't have enough ownership of shares of him in my best ball just yet, but he's a guy that I do WanNa target I think he could take a bit of a leap here they're gonNA run a lot of twelve personnel. They're going to run the ball lot, we. We know that they attempted the third fewest passes per game last year they were down under thirty thirty attempts per game and We know that the key to going over a receiving total and putting up that fantasy production is to to have some volume in the often so You know I've Seen Jefferson's number. It was around eight hundred on Bo Vodka I would lean towards the under their. Fantasy points we haven't projected for seven hundred and five. So I just don't see the huge upside here I I see feeling and earth Smith as the upside options in the passing game and There's just too many scenarios where I think he goes under his total. So I was sort of torn on deebo Samuel in the best ball draft that Joe and I are doing right now in part because they took. In the first round also, so I didn't pull the trigger on Deebo. Samuel in our best ball drafted I. Do the right thing Tom or the wrong thing. You know I think you did the right thing. I I love Deebo. Samuel I liked the way he plays I just. I, it is a similar type player to him. He's a guy that does most of his damage. After the catch is a lot, you know they have three guys like that. George Kendall is the best tight end in the league after the catch, and he might be the best after the catch regardless of position, so you know there's three very similar guys. I've struggled with Deebo because I thought coming into this year I was going to have a lot of shares of him, but he's being drafted around sixty picks in I've tended to go, you know. Give gravitate more towards like Terry maclaurin at that spot. devante Parker all even Marquees Marquees Brown Hollywood brown in even wool or from the Texans, the higher upside potential guys. I I struggle with depots potential lack of volume that passing game. We know the forty niners with Shannahan they're going to. They're to run. The Rock and they're very successful added in know they have one of the League's best defenses I don't see you know. I I'm expecting some aggression. From their defense, but I think. The defense that can. Be Five units so. I don't see a lot of all you in the passing game, so depot has been a tough guy for me. Because I really thought this year, I was going to have a lot of shares of IM, but it really hasn't turned out that way. How much top one more about The New York jets and You always want to look for guys who are going to be the number one target on a team and I think we're really struggling in the fantasy industry to project exactly who that is going to be for the jets, and that leads me the Denzel. mims who was drafted in the second round, he was getting a lot of late kind of first round buzz. I think you and I maybe I'm mistaken you and I. Both had maybe a little bit of a wager on mims going in the first round, but whatever the case was, there were numbers suggesting Denzel Men's was going to go a lot higher in the, and he actually went. He goes at the bottom. Bottom of the second round indicating were mixed feelings on him in the League, but he also joins a receiving core that Persad Perriman Josh. Dotson Jamison crowder Chris Herndon tight end. It's just a bunch of question marks and a really good slot guy in Jamison. crowder I still don't really know how to feel about this passing game but Denzel. mims going a lot later in the draft and anticipated by question is. Is this something like a decay metcalf last year where the NFL simply over thought itself, or were there some questions about mims that were valid, and we shouldn't expect him to hit his receiving yard total witch. I'm looking at Pravada. Is About seven hundred right now? Yeah I don't even know if it's over thought process I just think I. Mean we saw with the Eagles Rigor? A lot of people thought that was a reach, but these I mean the the wide wide receiver position was so loaded in the draft this year that you know teams kind of locked in on the guys. They really liked and. I think just happen to be the guy that might have been the second or third guy on the boards, but Wasn't the top guy, so he fell a little bit and. The jets had a great draft. They got becton as well in the first round. They got a lot of value. To positions. They really need it at a tackle on receiver. So you know this is an offense? He can really step into. At the end of the day. I would probably bet on him disappointing more than anything I think he is a bit of a raw prospect, but. If you WANNA, take a little bit of a flyer. He's a really long odds on as an MVP and not MVP a rookie of the year. Award winner here it was at You know eighty two one on draft. At one point, it's down to sixty six to one, but if you go to a lot of the other books of looked on bet, online at he's at twenty two one. Fan Dole, he was thirty thirty to one I believe at one point so. There's a big discrepancy in those odds. And I think you're right I mean. His reign to outcomes I do see maybe A. Metcalf Kinda impact as deep receiver here. th this passing game is wide open in New York. I've been taking my chances with a lot of the guys in the passing game in my best ball draft so far I've been getting A. Lotta Chris Herndon. As a late. Fourteenth Fifteenth Round Tight End as my tight end to I've been taking some chances. undershot. Pyramid is a liked what I saw from him two years ago, and Cleveland and his final five game stretch with the buccaneers last year, so side somebody's GonNa emerge in the jets. Pass game. It's just it just has to happen there's. Jamison crowder is a nice piece as a slot receiver, but you know somebody's going to have to know big big plays in this offense at some point so I and I really think it's GonNa. Come down to her mims and paramount. So maybe you want to. Basically what I been doing I've been drafting paramount and Herndon a lot, and maybe I'll put a you know a ten dollar wager on Ben's at. Sixty six to one and maybe not pays off that way. Tom Really appreciate the time. Check him out on twitter at Tom Brawley. You are the best fantasy analyst in Cambria County. History really. That's for sure I. Don't think there's very many of them to. On that list, so I'll take it. That was awesome, fellas. That was absolutely awesome. Else's awesome method men. A personal care brand that takes a fresh approach to grooming. Their products include body. Wash is two in one shampoo conditioners deodorants. Here's all I, know okay. They've got unbelievable fragrances. 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Players We Haven't Talked About

NFL Talking Heads

36:40 min | 2 years ago

Players We Haven't Talked About

"Welcome to the n._f._l. Talking heads fantasy football show here. I'm your host jeff carrier and seth wall. Hello everyone and welcome to the n._f._l. Talking heads fantasy football podcast show. I'm your host jeff have carrier doing a solo pod. Today that's right. It's just me myself when i set this out on the -cation. He will be back doc with us next week probably getting some well deserved time with the family so that way he can spend additional time with us. The talking heads family for for the rest of the fantasy football. Season seems like a pretty fair trade off to me. I think we've got everything settled here. When it comes to the off season so i'm not talk talk a little bit about some players that we haven't talked about and of course let's go ahead and address the fantasy fallout from the week three <music> of preseason lamar miller andrew lock. What are the trickle down effect and that's going to go ahead and be our opening question of today before we talk about some players or i talked about some players that just really we haven't really mentioned too much on the pod for one reason or another so jumping right in lamar or miller someone that was an interesting player because he was a player to avoid yet he made the path list just through the nature of his consistency step back seth and i really talked about that and how we kinda wanna fade them just because of the upside you can never really predict one of these things in terms of when it comes to injuries. Luckily it hasn't really been that many injuries and preseason probably mostly due to the fact act that no one has really been playing so we could definitely still see some several more injuries as weak wanted to roll along long now. I'm super excited for the season to start here <hes> so hopefully there won't be too many injuries for all of our sake lamar miller duke johnson johnson johnson has been flying up the boards as expected as you would think i think he's so probably getting more love but then either set or i want to to give <hes>. I don't know why he would be going as high as fourth round. I still feel like they're going to be giving the ball to someone else there in the backfield. It's not like to johnson is a bell l. cal running back. He's checkout his average position here. In the trap. It is climbed on the fifteenth round into six six about where lamar miller was going which is not too bad but every day it's still creeping up and i've heard it's gone as early as the fourth. I suppose the six might not be a horrendous. You know you're talking in the likes of a tariq cohen in terms of another running running back going there austin actor <hes> maybe right behind miles sanders. I probably honesty rather have rather have editor of course ahead of them. As of right now as long as gordon is out for sure. Would i rather take a stab a mile sanders or duke johnson. I think that's going to depend depend on what type of team you have at that point in a six round. I don't love duke johnson. Lamar miller never caught more than thirty six passes. Any single year ear doesn't seem what they throw a lot to their backs. I don't know what would make me think that they're going to all of a sudden. Throw a ton there. I don't think duke johnson's catching ability and silly early increases a whole lot just because the mar- miller's out you know does he get the goal line work. It's really tough to tell. It's probably not worth i mean it's probably probably not a bad stab in the late. Six ish round but i don't. I don't think he's going there i don't. I don't think he's he's falling that far. So that's kind of our take with do johnson is he really needs to fall on a nice easy spot. Maybe you're going to zero r._v. He definitely be a decent person to go after the same way that lamar miller was in a complete zero r._v. Situation where you need someone that could start week. One andrew lucked fallout are all right now. What a doozy not really touch on andrew luck's retirement what that means to him. The fans the organization etc everyone has been listening to enough radio over the last few days to get their own take and to listen to several other people's. Take fantasy wise though let's go player by player layer starting with marlin. I think it has the least impact on i. I still don't think this is necessarily a positive for mac. I don't think this is something that day. They go out and score. They give the ball to him. You know twenty percent more. They might give the ball to a more more but the counter balance is that they're scoring touchdowns. I always in the belief that the better player the better quarterback we have. It's a wide receiver coming back for the running back regardless of position the better the offense in general that's one. That's what i'm more worried about. I'm not worried about marlin mac touch the ball a few more times we we saw that a lot with different cleveland running backs while they weren't decorative running backs. I don't know how great back marlon mac is necessarily on the scale of things but cleveland's was just never good enough to score touchdowns to care to matter and and i do. I do think that let's pivot to now jacoby percent. I do think that we should have a better year than twenty seventeen. We saw him get traded right before. The season started kind of get thrown in the fire. Their offense was not as good their weapons weren't as good and they had chuck pagano as an as a coach so i think everything around perset is better. I think he's a decent low end quarterback. I mean you're not drafting him in q._b. Ones but let's call paul him a low end q._b. to he probably has maybe a little bit upside in certain games. I'll be very curious you know. Bill donald trump trade him away for philip door set which at times seemed like nothing you know because that wasn't great prospects and we kind of saw what brisket already was ause. I mean built or set was so he was concentrating them for nothing. Amber said didn't necessarily play all that great in two thousand seventeen. So how much better could he actually be definitely some concerns there. I mean the only time you're drafting him is to quarterback leagues and he's pretty far down the totem pole. I think ideally l. e. You'd like them to be your q._b. Three and two q._b. League then you have the tight ends. I think that the titans basically become a <hes>. I would say on draftable and sense that if you're in a situation where your last person picota with the last pick but i'm not drafting any eighties tight ends close on possible for me because i'm always going to be looking for a different type of assets that might have a little bit of upside died. I would even probably even draft t._j. Hopkinson instead of one of these people just just to give a you know just just to try <unk> out higher upside person austin hooper for example so i'm not in favor of any of these tight ends. I would stay away from them. Especially a special without andrew lucked throwing the ball white hilton. We updated our draft projections on him and he he's an interesting person because has even at two thousand seventeen. He didn't necessarily have a horrendous season but it definitely wasn't great in with our updated projections. He falls all the way down into this <hes> right around the six round looks like with robbie anderson asked type of numbers. That's i guess kind of where it started taking them because i would take someone even like a you know. Let's let's look at this listening here. I'm taking him over al sean jaffe but we were really low on jeffrey i would i would take to you i- hilton tin probably just ahead of robbie anderson but behind josh gordon and d._j. More it's a tough spot tough spot. I think at that point i think that they'll be enough volume to hilton where i would definitely feel comfortable and so that that makes up the i think the fallout with andrew lock hand lamar miller as we're heading into week four preseason week for you know let's. I don't think there's going to be too many players playing. There's gonna be some starters who haven't really played well. The the season not really on any kind of fantasy radars another good follow up question coming from the the talking heads nation drapped private draft group here not just the draft group but private messaging group comes from spencer a uh shetler as i say and who knows with me but i think we're all going to be a lot of us running into the situation in that is if you're picking out a twelve and we have the zeke situation going on right now. What do you do and it is a uh excellent question. You know there's a lot of there's a few factors that factor and here is your league or non p._r. Would be a big one. How competitive is your league. If you're playing tall men it's gonna be naturally more competitive a ten-man league so now reports are oh coming out from jerry. Jones stephen jones that they haven't really talked recently. Hey this could be a little bit of a standoff. We all kind of thought that he'd be starting starting week one ezekiel elliott but now we're not sure because think about i'm recording here on a wednesday and august twenty eighth well. He basically needs to be in the building in preparing their game plan next tuesday wednesday so they have to have a contract. I had to pick up. The phone agreed contract. Sign it and get them out there to start installing a game plan for the following week's game one so it's really looking like week. One is out the window. Now is ezekiel. Elliott's still the number four pick if you do he was only missing week. Yes so what i would say is if there's any kind of news that he signed or about to sign and you won't miss one week week. I think that's okay but at this point especially with le vian bell while i think i think we can all agree. This is a different situation. Secret elliott is under contract. We need to look elsewhere. I would i would i would probably stay a little safe as much as we really want that top end running back as part of a draft strategy on the early draft of course going get your next best option whoever you feel comfortable label with especially if they are it's probably easier to go full point just go to the andre hopkins and be rest assured that you have him for most likely the entire season and then your strategy from there you don't want to kill yourself and shoot yourself in the foot by draft zeke and in holding onto that you're if you do if you wanna take that risk then obviously you gotta decide on where you're going to take tony pollard of course now. There's been also a lot of great draft happening here. <hes> been sharing been getting shared a lot from our. We're talking heads nation private group chat read off some to everyone here and give you an idea of how great this is coming out. We have actually actually sold out our entire private group chat group chat and draft grid completely sold out as superstock for everyone that has joined you know engage with us in the group chat shared their teams beginning some great feedback. Here's one from corey richmond. He didn't didn't actually share his team. He's just showing you that. He scored a one hundred percent tile <hes> which would these algorithms. They loved knock you any way you can score of one hundred percent that tells you everything you need to know a._t._m. Here from shane's mrs at thirty man startup dynasty leaks pretty deep would not going to go through all of it but we're also wilson intra bisky kamara nick chubb julio jones steph on digs cooper cup hunter henry tyler boyd equitor christian kirk. I like this team a lot for a dicey star because it has such a good balance of players are good right now. Digs julio russell wilson obviously kamar but also some young talent as well chubb including kamara cooper cup etc so really really really good balance there another eighteen here from barrett solta jared goff juju who if anyone didn't see him in the week three of the preseason they had three series with the offense offense. He had five targets and a touchdown. He's going to be a beast and up back back on barrett salt team jared goff juju phelan cooper cup up david johnson damian williams greg olsen josh jacobs awesome eker christian kirk absolutely love it just just killing it. I mean if if you don't like some of these teams then maybe we have in preaching the right thing to you. <hes> let's see what else we have here. We have another one from a dentist emmett. He's got michael. Thomas mike evans t white hilton chris carson curtis samuel which will actually will talk to in a little bit. We'll see if we've got any other others. We have one here from johnny strop. Tom brady albuque- ameritrade cohen tyreek hill antonio brown george kiddo title chris godwin calvin ridley and austin echo ale tavis murray <hes> he actually drafted for his buddy on that one in absolutely smoked it for him their a loved it and last draft from dennis emmett alvin kamara le vian bell amari cooper tony pollard which is looking good right now austin eker tijuana hilton sterling shepard o._j. Howard lindsay kenyan drake manual sanders play guy for the bench so a lot of really really solid solid drafts here is in twelve man and ten men leagues <hes> and let's see if i get any more scrolling through this chart here and yeah plenty of excellent drafts really happy with everyone right now completely sold out the private group chat and looking forward to look forward to communicate with everyone all season helping them out in the middle of the draft helping out someone right now <hes> are boy henryk overseas of pretty sure and he's doing auction draft in us and others are helping out in the middle of the draft. You don't get any better then. That's all right. Everyone listen op fantasy football fans. It is almost that time week one is almost here sure and if you love fantasy football and you need to check out the drapped season-long tournament is the biggest one ever three and a half million million dollar best ball championship. 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Google play a or you can sign it online at tracked dot com and listen. If you sign up now for your first time make your first deposit use our promo code talking just talking and you will get free entry into the three and a half million dollar championship and that's one million dollars first the first place so use our promo talking to to make your first deposit in available on the app store google play or online at draft dot com all right back to the episode here. We need to talk about some players that we haven't really you disgust recently probably because we don't have a strong feeling on them. You know one side or another didn't make the players target episode they he didn't make the players to avoid episode so we kind of feel a little bit indifferent but i want to provide some contacts some of these players just so that way when you're in your draft you know hopefully there's some relevant news or feedback that you have from us when you're pondering pondering. Some of these people so i up is mark ingram. He's going in a spot where i think one of the reasons why we didn't talk about him is just just because in our draft strategy we talked about seeing if you can choose to draft really early grabbing one of those four running backs which is now down to three and then that way you can go ahead and worry about targeting the wide receivers in the fourth round fourth fifth round. Most of those receivers are still there some of crept up a little bit like brandin cooks but overall. There's still a really good round for wide receivers that we like a lot so i think that's why we we haven't really talked about mark ingram. I don't like or hate it just because i feel like he's going to get a good amount of usage. I'm not too sure what justin hills roles <music>. I feel like as a season prolongs. He's gonna get using a passing game but i also don't know how much lamar jackson we've seen. Stats come out what we're running around. Quarterbacks doesn't necessarily pass a whole lot who they're running backs. I see mark. Ingram is basically being you know. The two were course course in a heavily heavily run offense which you could almost consider being semi similar to chris carson but obviously seattle's offense is is a bit better chris carson going ahead as he should. We like him more so i don't hate mark ingram. If you're in a scenario where you just can't grab grab a running or wide receiver in the fourth round. You went too heavy on wide receivers. Donald planet may terrible option. He might be a type of person to that kind of gets a little little overlooked in auction drafts and he might go a little bit cheaper than his value. That's one thing that i've noticed this past weekend. We did our first set. The night did our first draft our first main one. It was an auction league and you have some of these players that are going in the fifth sixth round starting around then that just their their value plummets because people overspend at the top band and then that money has to come out somewhere right so if you're if the value of all your players equals two thousand dollars dollars and you spend a ten extra dollars on saquon barkley which is probably perfectly fine well that ten dollars has to be taken out somewhere and then that probably happens for like the all top top twenty four players so what ends up happening is the bottom you know players definitely go for much less than they should and even probably starting around five six round for example lamar miller and our draft before got injured went for three dollars. Now lamar miller is not a great person in the six round where he was going but for three dollars and two hundred thirty five dollar budget. You know that's different so i could see i could see mark ingram kind of fitting that bill potentially this is definitely a case by case league by league base- i don't love or hate mark ingram next up seven. I talked about this person before. We did our players to avoid podcasts. We definitely aren't targeting him. His values completely blown up. He is a big big big industry kind of analysts player curtis samuel were not high on him. I i don't want to necessarily go and fate put him on a bus category or players to avoid because we don't just don't feel strongly enough about him in that sense chance but his value did skyrocket all the way up into the eighth round pulling it up right now to see what is current eighty eight o one and even started as low as twelve round a couple of months ago and peaked as much as as high as a mid seventh-round guys been dinged up a lot. He added decent ending to his second year in in carolina last year. It was dinged up in college much small. I feel like the person here. We've talked about in our players target d._j. More personally but again a little bit indifferent his value skyrockets so high. I don't really love him. I really wanna put the stamp on to avoid and go against the rest of the industry but you know one way or another. We just don't feel too great a bottom mile sanders next person. Here's there's a person that i think again is better auction player. He's a little bit lower on the ranks. Some was not necessarily targeted as a starter he could really go late in terms of nomination and if there's a lot of money out of the league <hes> he could go for much better than what is current draft. The capital is an eighty snake league. It's kind of funny how that works people look at a snake league and look at the a._d._p. And they kind of more or less stick with it for some reason derrick henry is gonna go round the fourth fifth round in a p._r. League which is still mind boggling to me but mile sanders in our league at least went per preachy by actually picked him up now probably not drafting him where he's going so that's kind out of the difference and that's also important for you to be able to be balanced and to understand that i'm not targeted in snake leagues by any stretch of imagination. He's going like in the middle of the fifth. Breath is just to players there. My teams are too deep. I need starters but if you can pick them up for less than ten dollars in a auction and he's most likely not your starter than yes dede westbrook dede westbrook probably hasn't made any list because he plays for the jacksonville jaguars and probably for the same reason at a miami dolphins player of really hasn't made the lists in the buffalo bills player. We haven't really talked about. It's just there's there's really nothing and i'll group him with deers guys next player you know i. I don't really want any shares of anyone on these offenses. They're just not appealing for net you can get me. You know like you can make the case before net for sure but did you westbrook deers guys. I don't love or hate them. I don't even love or hate there a._d._p.'s. I think they're perfectly fine if you like them go after them. If you know that offense or you live in washington jacksonville and you have a little more until then either cetera then go ahead and drop them is what we would say typically. Though just you know just one of the philosophies that we have is. We typically shy away from that offenses. There's no real need for us to grab t. Westbrook will fuller willfuller is an interesting in candidate here. I think again he presents a most likely a better option value now again the auction leagues are drafter asser so crazy could change from one to the next but he's type of player again where no one will spend a lot of money on him but he's healthy right now. He's starting week one. He will be great last flex player and you just tell yourself okay well. I'll plug them in until until he gets hurt and then i'll just drop them in. Just you know stream team or have someone else ready to go on my bench. That's kind of how it approachable fuller. I definitely want to take a stab at will fuller in one or two. My leagues saw still have a couple of big drafts coming up next week right before the season starts <hes>. I don't hate his location. Is i think going round dede westbrook. Maybe a little bit above dede westbrook brooke just because his upside a willing to take him there. He's going late enough where if he gives me even just to three games coming out of the gate. You and i have to move on from him. Then so be it. I mean obviously you're if i knew only two or three games. I won't draft him there but he's healthy right now. I think that's the biggest key. You're not drafting him like a._j. Green where he's might earliest back week four. I read a report report on this this week. I believe he was still in a push scooter on a knee scooter in the locker room and who knows what happens after a. J. green comes back and obviously that offense is not as good as houston so we'll fuller. The upside with him right now is that he's ready to go week. One durrell henderson <hes> you know we do not talk a lot about handcuffs just because our roster commitment level is so low to these types of people. We don't mind latavius mary. I think we've talked about that because he presents standalone value you can plug him in during bye weeks tremendous tremendous upside on an injury throughout henderson. I'm not even sure that this guy's actually the backup to todd gurley and never mind the fact that i more so than even set has been really high on todd gurley having at least say like at least being there and being mostly the guy like his values is kind of crept up a lot but he's still going the second round todd gurley again. The rams played anyone anyone all all preseason terms of their starters but they've played a lot of the real henderson so coming out of school. He came out of i. I don't know i'm sayin' karol henderson. This is not like i would much rather have darwin thomson tony pollard. I mean those are the shots that you take. I don't think thrill henderson thin is necessarily that you want one other. One is matt braida the typical resident a lot in these drafts <hes> he was actually a player that i think we had as avoid. It's funny. It's funny how much valued having having cohen's has kinda gone up and down in the weeks and even mid week. Just i had a big long drive last week into a draft virginia beach each seven hours. They're seven hours back and listen to a lot of fancy podcasts lot more than normally ever do and man. I'll tell you what it is funny listening especially in the benjamin when i was in on the bouncing back and forth of evaluation at some of these some of these people were doing having a stance sticking by it would be nice and i think breda's similar. I think you're going to use multiple backs. The fact that he's much lower than kevin coleman is an easy easy value you play. They're not to show officers going to look like i know that jimmy has apparently looked really bad in preseason. Will you know he's just coming off the a._c._l. We'll see how well or how long stays true all season saying kevin coleman. I don't mind matt braida. He kind of falls in the if you if you like guys if you like westbrook. If you like mark ingram fine go after them. I don't see i don't see any downside is definitely a much better value play than coleman so i'm not definitely not telling you stay away that presents most of the players that seth and i kind of wanted to touch base on and follow up on let me look through the a._d._p.'s right now and just throw a couple more names out here to everyone. Kareem hunt do not draft. I don't know out accurate accurate. These numbers are but if you going the eight that's crazy. <hes> jordan howard looks like he's falling. You really don't no with phillies running backs. I mean i don't love him specifically n._p._r. Leagues but in the ninth round if you need a guy to touch the ball the first couple weeks might not be a bad idea. One guy do like in terms of ben tragedy getting on your team darwin thompson just just getting some kind of other shares there in that k._c. Running backfield i am all for i'm all for that for sure. Let's see what else oh sweet james washington james watson very interesting player. Someone who i hope i take a a shot at but if it's not him that i want one of dante moncrieff just because i watched the opening series in washington the pittsburgh tri say thing of james washington and series the first series not creeping to targets. I don't even know if he came down with them which is kind of like just so syra typical typical dante moncrieff but i wanna get something of a number two wide receiver in pittsburgh green bay. Maybe even new orleans you know they're they're going so late. I just gimme a shot. Just just out grabbed him. Put him on my bench and dan you know i i could treat them as a liquid bench asset one week. I throw them out. If there's someone really good right there if not wait one more and then throw them out. I don't know now i want to take a couple shots at them. Someone like to sean jackson. I think i mentioned this in the alshon jeffery players to avoid. I'm not going to have to judge to sean jackson first of all. He's over thirty years old. He he basically avoids the path player. Victory lists like the plague he would never be on that path playerless in philly doesn't pass to their wide receivers right less than fifty percent to their wide receivers last year the only team in the n._f._l. Avoiding him jalen samuels yeah maybe all players you know it just depends on how the draft falls avoiding jail in san meals. I know james kearns looked like a beast. I thought that all along all off season light james connor was not worried that a <music> scott back guy was going to be taking goal line carries in pittsburgh. The ultimate points that that i was trying to make who cares if he gets spelled a bit more lose a couple of catches it gets all the goal line carries pittsburgh. He's golden especially for naughty top-five running back in that being said even though we haven't seen a law jan samuels on the field they still are going to pass to their backs just in the few series in in the pittsburgh tennessee game. I saw there's a lease a couple of catches james connor as the entire game prolongs. It's jalen. Samuel is like a jalen chard type player and there's a good chance there's a good chance so i don't mind him cortlandt sautin you know denver receivers. Don't get me started outside of manual. I guess i'm not too sure they're justin jackson's interesting there. There was a report today from i love this report tooth and being sarcastic report from the chargers writer that they expect melvin gordon to be back week one referencing and noting nothing they have no idea where it came from or what is making a claim on so but justin jackson accident high as we have been on austin eker and i'll tell you about every draft i see from the talking heads nation literally has austin on including mine so let's hope that he is a good season melvin goering comes back then obviously jackson clearly not as important but jackson could definitely got a good amount of playing time so even if you're the person that misses out on adler and a draft and gordon our take a stab at jackson i mean there's no the reason why jesse jackson can't be the goal line guy. While i clear is the pass receiving guy we like more. We like more because in p._r. We want floor of that. You know for plus catches five in that chargers. Backfield adrian peterson person plays on washington probably staying away from anthony miller. We're getting pretty late here. Just kind of going down the list. I think that if there's anyone the one that you really really like you should go ahead and take even if it's two rounds early. That's the name of the game when you go into these drafts walk away with a teeny feel confident in and that you like don't fall into love with these eighty ps and stick to them. You know like they are the bible or something like that. So oh all right. I think i've covered a good amount of teams for everyone. We're gearing up for week. One of the season <hes> this'll be our only episode this week because we we are trying to put the final touches on the trade analyzer tool that is right so as soon as that is ready up and running being in updated. We will let you know we'll do a podcast for that as the best thing after you draft. Your team is halo style. Look if some start looking for some trades will start fixing these holes that we might have so as soon as we have that ready. We will let everyone know the trade tool. We'll be available for free and you're listening to the n._f._l. Talking heads. I am jeff kerryon. We will be back. Thanks for listening to this episode of the n._f._l. Talking talking heads fantasy football podcast show with your host jeff carrier wall will catch next time.

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 225: The idea of Value

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 225: The idea of Value

"Golden state media concepts fantasy football. Podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy. Football News and advice decided who to draft first round cowing Gaga? And how a lot of your team got you covered. Additionally Dynasty leaks he li I DP DP lead even daily fantasy football league. Join us as we break down all the questions of fantasy football. It's the golden state media concepts fantasy football podcast Welcome to the G. S. M. C. Fantasy football podcast on. Gmc podcast network. I am their host. Probably the most. I don't know about the most but I'm one of them Ethan here every Friday. Everybody's having a wonderful afternoon a wonderful day. I am girly having a pretty good day. You know I had to give them a little chain so I had to go do some do that. Change normal normal stuff that you don't want to do on your day off on your day where you don't have too much to do but you gotta get it done out the way and that's what I had to do but we got some stuff to get out the way today and hopefully as loud more interesting than getting your tail light fixed and organ oil change because God knows how much fun that actually might be. So what could that be right here? Okay so we're GONNA START OFF TODAY TALKING ABOUT. What is a League winner in fantasy football? What does the League winner? So what is exactly League winner? How do we define it? How do we come to conclusion that this player is League winner will I? We have to define what exactly illegal winner is so I went to this article because you know you have to research this sort of stuff and website number five they have article written by Jj Carson. That's the name right. There is Carson wrote Nice article of finding out what exactly the League winner. Because we all know that Christian. Mccaffrey Lamar Jackson. Those guys are league winners but we only define them based on their value based on drafting so we know player value in football is derived from a player far up performing his positional peers and fantasy football point scored and that's the basis of how all this is conducted so they had to do a bunch of research in order to figure out some averages over the best in each physician at the time of ranked so they have these charts up where it shows the average running back and wide receiver. Because you don't really need to care about tied in quarterback because it's less you know less complicated PR and over the last nine years. So basically they looked at who was the number one in two thousand eleven in points per game and then the wide receiver nineteen position per game averaged fourteen points a fourteen seven. Something like that so you of have to look at it from different different onslaughts like that and then you come together and you see what the running back average wide receiver average. What the differences between each year? So you take each one and you basically do a difference between step one like the highest to the lowest and you keep doing that until you have yourself a nice difference and then you can kind of see what our league winners working you find them. So where can you find a League winner? Typically a running back as far as league winners in this sort of metric scenario top sixty. You'll find a league winner which would be typically around twenty four points per game for running backs. Seventy three percent of the time is in the top. Sixty so really. You're not finding anybody in the last like outside of the first few picks on the draft. You're not gonNA find League winner outside the top six twenty six percentile for running backs. Wide receivers is eighty eight percentile. Top sixty in only eleven percent outside of the top sixty very very very telling and typically. Of course you're GonNa find your league winners for both in the first round more than any other round except for really is interesting. Wide Receiver rounds seem to kind of drop off bid gradually and they have weird spike in the fifth round on this metric running backs it literally depletes the first round and goes from thirty three percent to sixteen then gradually goes fourteen in four round four percent fifth round is also four percent so it really really hits hard drop off after the first three rounds running backs and then just for like big groups in round six through fourteen. If you're in that it drops off very much tremendously. So the odds of having total league winners and out of the total players drafted so twenty out of twenty eight could be league winners potentially and that's like a rate of seventy one percent and then round two out of forty five players who drafted you still would likely only get twenty league when the forty four percent chance and then of course round three forty five total players drafted eight percent or eight total league winners and seventeen percent chance so this is for wide receiver. So is really really telling that you know league winners. Aren't you know where they could be? Kinda hard to to see exactly where you can find them so if you draft the wide receiver in the first round you pretty much favorable odds that he will finish in the top eight wide receiver in points per game but those chances are still decent around to and then we see the drop off around three in the odds of finding a League winning. Why receivers actually pretty similar to around three to around five. Which tells us that drafting round? Three receivers has traditionally been not so great investment. And that would mean that if you see why receivers up there that are potential league winner so you know maybe a Julio maybe not so much right now but definitely in his heyday sure. And then you see guys like Michael Thomas which he's probably going to go in the top five so this probably doesn't apply but let's just use it as an example because last year. Micheal Thomas wasn't going that high. He was still in the first round but he may not have been the first receiver off the board. But he's definitely someone who is considered illeg winner at this point in time. So if Michael Thomas Somehow falls to you because everybody'll took a running back but you're so stuck on getting a running back. It's just not a good decision. You have to realize that Michael. Thomas is a League winner and you have to take him. Don't just wait to get a star. Wide Receiver Take Best Player available in these times. Because if you find out the oh you may have gotten a solid running back but you probably could have got more solid value from running back in the back end of the draft in the wide receiver because wide receiver. Drop-off can get really really hectic really really fast so you know you gotta realize opportunity costs so opportunity. Cars is the loss of potential gain from other alternatives when one alternative is chosen when you select someone fancy football. Your opportunity cost is the player. You could have selected instead so if you get. Michael Thomas in the first round this year. You're forgoing your opportunity to get their Henry. So you know the third round can be really really make or break for you in using charts like this can make things pretty clear so if you're looking for value at the running back position when taking one in round three versus going for wide receiver if your so goal is to draft the League winning player you should draft running back with your third pick. As opposed to a wide receiver and the dropoff in hit rate at running back occurs in the third round as well so the numbers above really tell us that is hard to find league winning players outside the first runs the draft and the data also shows in sheds light on the concept of opportunity cost. And that's probably the biggest takeaway after all of this. If you really think about it from that perspective that your decisions your choices have consequences and you have to know what these consequences are in order to continue to build a solid group of individuals so like we use an example. If you take Michael Thomas in the first round nine times out of ten you're going to forego the problem like the opportunity of getting Derrick Henry unless you know somebody completely whips in the draft or multiple people within the draft and they end up letting Derek Harry Fall to you on your second. Go around if you do the snake drive. This is all about snake. This is of course auction then. This is a huge different debate. But this is where we this is where we are right now offense. You have to know if you're playing snake draft. You have to know about opportunity costs and that can lead you into a lot better well rounded team and much more success on the on the back end when you're looking at your team and you see oh well you know. I'm kind of stressed out at the wide receiver position. But it'll be okay. You can make up for it And in like you know weeks to call because you know things always happen you know. There's waiver wire things going on. 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Maybe if you knew you knew but he was surprising me and I still had him on my team and he did very well and I'm excited to see what his potential can bring for next season. And you know they also went and did some major drafting for why receivers in the first two rounds of the NFL draft. And that looks like they're going to be going to try and definitely get the ball out outside and really start slinging the football around with drew lock and they also bringing a a nice package. A running back duo now with Lindsay. They do have of course the man from the chargers. Melvin Gordon the third. Don't forget the third. Melvin Gordon the third. But how can they really improve so we look? I'm looking on football. Outsiders of brilliant website love using them for all things and fell. I'm looking at their offensive. Devi away for last year so this was revised looked at since March two march. Twenty nine twenty so this is very much up to date But they were ranked twenty six as far as offensive. Dvr A last year. They were ranked fourteenth. Which is Kinda crazy but if we look at what exactly happened here. So they're waited offense. This is the adjusted so that earlier games in the season become gradually less important and better reflects how the team was playing at the end of the season so for example. Baltimore was ranked one in offense. All over this year offense deviously and they're waited offense of course was also ranked first the saints were ranked fourth at the start. Zimring fourth last year and they were ranked four this year total. But they're waited. Offense had him ranked second. Tennessee was ranked six for the total amount of the year. But they're waited. Offense was ranked third like I was saying Denver. It team that really was pretty stagnant. They ranked twenty six throughout the whole year in their weighted average was still twenty six. They're passing average was twenty seven ranked and the rushing average was nineteen ranked and that. Tell us a whole lot about the struggles between Philip. Lindsey and the offensive line. And they're passing was really just not that great and overall their offense was really really on the bottom tier two league so they're only better than Miami who their way to. Devi away or I'm sorry they're waited. Offense was twenty comparative to Denver. Twenty six and everybody else was of course under Denver legitimately from start to finish so Carolina's Cincinnati Washington New York. Jets Pittsburgh Pittsburgh of course had the worst offense of really all time not real time. They had the worst offense performance last year. By far none and it was quite it was quite a performance of among the most So what does this takers whereas what is land? What can we use from this to see the offensive potential coming this year so we saw the Broncos have scored twenty nine or more points in each of the past three seasons in five times? Total since peyton manning retired and somehow some way you have to know what that means so over the past two seasons the chiefs have lost nine games. Eight of which were two opposing. Teams scored twenty nine points in the Broncos like I said have only scored twenty nine or more points once in each of the past three seasons five times total since peyton. Manning has retired so it's been really tough for the broncos to find offensive personality offensive identity. And you would think that Vic Fangio knows this and we can only assume that you know. Shurmur was one of the first several editions of the broncos offense January. They GOT JERRY JUDY TO GET CAGE. A hamlet in the first two picks and then get a center. Lloyd cushenberry with their third rounder. In the new bringing Melvin Gordon bringing Graham glass slow Another linemen and all of a sudden you think the broncos have potential to be a great offense but it really just depends on the drew. Lock thing drew. Lock is probably in a moment of this. Josh Allen Moment is he gonNa take the next step up. Lay Josh Allen. Took a pretty solid step forward last year and the bills offense definitely looked a lot better than what people may have. Thought of. Is Locker sleeper? I'm not too sure so. He finished with a four one record as starter but with only one game over twenty fantasy points and he kept his interceptions low. That sounds like a lot. Like you know Josh Allen. But he not He knows a few touchdowns twice in had three games under thirty pass attempts so of course. Joss are drew lock. The very strong arm saw him ability and he has to plan with rhythm and he doesn't quit his foot work in pockets. Management are improved from Missouri but his gunslinger mentality still remains. I don't think that's a bad thing. I think having a gunslinger mentality can be good especially offense. It really looks like they're just going to be flinging the football down the field he could be good. Pretend to guys like coralline sudden. Who is quite sizable? And he has a good nose for the football and it's just they find a way they have a good chemistry so you'll see him for the ball up to Sidon all the time and sudden we'll find a way to convert first downs and things like that so we do have to remember that. It's possible that cordons lenders numbers could suffer right. So you know taking Jerry Judy in handler at the first two picks draft Anti Noah. Fant who is somebody that people are looking at as sleeper tight in the videos that have been surfacing about if you look back and look at the tape coralline Sutton is just he. Only he could make some of the place that drew lock is throwing him the ball so. I think that the sun is really much like the glue to this offense in my opinion and you know in the broncos traded Emmanuel Sanders He saw a lot more. Double Teams The previous season so once you get Jerry Judy in their handler fan in establish themselves as good threats in the passing game he will see a lot of more coverages like The Patriots lockdown with someone likes to find Gilmore. And everybody else has to beat you but it won't be a lot of double team so he will probably lead the team in targets and he'll probably have a solid season. I wouldn't see why he can't end up getting another thousand yards and I think still be your number two wide receiver when it is all said and done. So what does that mean for Jerry? Judy I think that Jerry Judy might be really solid and he could have studied potential but we don't really know exactly when the NFL season is going to really really get going so we don't know when he'll have that time to develop his develop his talents with his teammates and his new team so You know NFL ready footwork. Good size goodspeed. Judy is going to be joining a really talented roster. Now and it's all dependent on July can get this this team going on the offensive side of the ball. He have to attack of lower throwing him the ball anymore so he doesn't have of course the Greatest College Football Coach of our era coaching him anymore. But I don't think that would be a bad thing. I think he'll find a way to adjust. He has really good. Nfl ready skills on in his own. Right and you'll find a way cage handler kind of like a smaller guys. Swiss army knife is probably the better version of what a tape on Austin might be not quite as fast but he can run roused secret. Run the backfield that he can. He's really multi a do it all sort of guide you know. Being small is not a big problem. Because we've seen small guys successful before and it will still be successful now. So I think the Denver Broncos have a solid Assad looking group of offensive talent to look at coming up in this next season so I wouldn't sleep on them. 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Join US as we've talked to and about some of the biggest names in the enemy past president feature when it's the fight game there's just one show to check out. Gsfc PODCAST DOT COM backslash MMA dash. Podcast don't forget to leg on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gs MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. So we're going to be talking about the saint often potential because they just keep making moves off season that makes it seem like they are really really trying to make this. If this is drew brees is last run which a lot of people are starting to speculate and we're not to share. We know he has resigned. Essentially for two more seasons but the second season seems a little bit more up in the air comparative to everything else. That's been going on and we see tendencies with the saints. They dropped linemen and they usually are really really good at identifying linemen that are going to be very serviceable for them and they always have had a pretty pretty solid to really really great offerings line here in Europe. So the saints know what they're doing with the old linemen that they look at so the recently they went and picked up another one in free agency for a one year deal and this is probably the soak up the cost of letting go of WOFFORD. Because you know they did end up drafting a solid guard who did play Who you know. We do know that he can move around and he's not going to be playing or maybe switches positions but the saints didn't end up. Drafting a really really big time guard out of Michigan. Who at the time we know is probably the one of the better interior linemen debates interior linemen in his last draft class so they had to let somebody go because he can't have the mall. Especially since Larry wofford really really was eating a lot of money to the saints and they needed something more usable so this is a conversation about Iran armstead because drawn. Armstead is one of the best tackles in pro football He earned a pro bowler in each of the last two years. He was second team all pro in two thousand eighteen But he hasn't really had sixteen game healthy season in one season. All and then he's twenty eight years old coming up closing in twenty thousand nine hundred and it's the first time he's appeared more than ten games since twenty fifteen so as great as he is healthy. You know the saints need some help to figure out the situation. Because when he is out usually they slide Andrews Pete in there and that's as usual his college position and they'll do something like senior. Kill Mente or a Nick. Eastern will put in place but there are also times where you know. Pete isn't the most healthy guy in the world. Either and when they're both allergies. Looks like we don't know what we're GONNA do so we can have an injury. Or let's say not we but the saints can have an injury doubt affects two positions like that and they got somebody from. Baltimore backup James Hers Steps in and he was suspended the first four weeks for performance enhancing substance violation. He's the best option to saint for the next twelve weeks and the play offs when he does is allow to really come back so he has pedigree to give the saints confidence that he can hold his own at the left tackle spot and even a pinch or a few weeks depending because you know injuries do happen and you need linemen because the day of your lyman go down. The whole season goes down. We even saw last year the saints. Although loss drew brees for a numerous amount of weeks longer than they've ever had to lose him they still found a way to string some games together because their offense is just so strong. And that's something that we got to look at so of course we're going back to what football outsiders innovative statistics intelligent the notes. I don't know why the New Orleans of course rank for last year ring for their your weight. Offensive ranking was second with their percentages in the high twenty was above twenty five percent and typically that means excellence is really really good and their pass percentage or they're often of pass ranking was third and they're rushing was temp which is kind of weird because they've been a better of they've been one of the better rushing teams in the you know they've been top fifteen for the past few years especially when they have. Mark Ingram this year or last year rather was a bit tough. Kamara was hurt offensive. Line wasn't always piece together. We did see some flashes though when you saw Kamara really do well when drew brees come back? Started to fix some things out but it wasn't as consistent as it used to be. And that does Bo will or that does Both for small amounts of concern originally but now I feel like they have figured some things out because a lot of their problems came from not having a second option in the wide receiver realm. Because we all know. Derek came on the scene a little bit late but when he was on he was really on he was doing a lot of great things in that offense and then of course we all know about Michael Thomas. We don't have to really discuss Michael Thomas. We know he's GonNa be probably the first wide receiver taking many leagues reasonably. And of COURSE JERRY. Cook is probably going to be one of the first ten. Probably one of the first five titans taking and this year's draft we know Kamara probably slips little bit. He made he still probably going to go and probably top ten very very minimally at the at the worst just outside the top ten. I don't think people are just going to pass on Alvin Kamara because of a seemingly weird season of injuries and kind of fluky stuff and it didn't look like the saints. We're really trying to use him to his most potentially weren't using in situations that are really put him at a good standing relationship on offense and that's just how I like to describe what we all know what they did. They went Emmanuel Sanders in the off season and that is huge because one Emmanuel Sanders is a excellent route. Runner still has good speed to break away. We saw that with the forty niners and he was able to do with that offense and that just makes so much harder on defending defense is to go out and cover everybody. We still know they have tasted hill. I'm still not to share. It tastes them is worth the fantasy value that people are projecting him to be and I highly doubt because we all know a lot of his seven touchdowns came off of you know Kamara bring them down into the end zone or you know Michael Thomas bringing them down in Zona J. Cook bring them into the end zone. It wasn't like we were seeing Tatum Hill. Break Off and go for forty and a touchdown on one play. That just wasn't happening. He was getting in the end zone. Byproduct of all the other. Great offense of weapons around. So don't be fooled about seven touchdowns he's not. We can't be sure what exactly he's going to be used in any capacity if it was me. If you really are interested you need to watch you. Need to do some mock drafts and see where people are looking at Tastes Hill. I don't just go and assume that tastes hill is going to be a hot commodity because there's just a lot of players that can give you more value than just him being the name because we all know that he's the. Saint Swiss army knife. We all know he's the he's The saints gadget the the Gimmick Player or whatever. You WANNA call him. He's that but it doesn't mean that he is going to be a solid in and out for any league deeper not like we can't be too sure. Exactly what Sean Payton has in store for this offense so we have to China taper our expectations a little bit and find a way to really really look past the like you know the glamour of watching him play because we all like to watch take them hill do what he does. It's fun it's exciting. It's riveting it's refreshing and NFL terms of seeing a guy like him really really. Kinda just do it all and not really be position specific and really not complain about it but profanity. That's not important. We need to know where the points are coming from. And we know where the points are coming from. It's coming from drew is coming from Michael. Thomas is coming from Alvin Kamara. And it's coming Jerry Cook and now with addition of Emmanuel Sanders essentially replacing the Ted ginn role but a better version. That is huge for the saints and I think often potential is honestly through the roof and they a lot of reporters a lot of analysts have been keep saying him. And I'm GonNa say it as well the saints probably have the most complete roster in the NFL to this day right now. They have the complete the most complete roster in the NFL and anybody on their fifty two man roster at this point could be starting big time minutes in playoff games and they have the mall and they're also you know. Does that mean they're going to find some problems when they have to compare some of these guys? Yeah there's GonNa be some problems later on but right now they're okay and they gotta make the most of this situation all right so we're gonNA take another break and coming back. We're going to be looking at some great great rankings. Once again we got to always make sure we're on top of the rankings. We're going to be looking at some fantasy prose rankings for standard and then we'll move on the PR and then of course you know happy. Are Those things? We'll be doing that. That's coming up. This show built around the women of from the UFC. To the extreme case fighting we got the fights. Cover the golden state media concepts women's MMA. Podcast the latest news upcoming flights discussions previous matches. Join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future would. It's the women's fight game you know we're to listen to the golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast. Okay so I wanted to go over. What is happening here? Standard format rankings. So far in football. And what do we see as the the best of the best in the standard scoring format so and standard goring? Of course we do not have one point per reception half-point perception. We don't have that. We'll go over that in a few but for Standard League. The top four is considered tier. One from fantasy prose is Christian. Mccaffrey declined Michael. Thomas Zeke Elliott so out of these guys. Who Do you feel like is who I feel like? It's the best to take. Now I feel as if Christian McCaffrey is year. Last year will probably not. He'll have similar sort of numbers. But there's just no way Christian. Mccaffrey is going to produce that strong. Like you're not going to get that again. I don't think you're GonNa get that again but you will have really strong. It'd be really hard for me to say not to pick Christian McCaffrey. I if you're the first overall selection and a snake draft or if he's the first guy on the auction draft It'd be really foolish to not try and outbid somebody if you feel like that's the guy you really want on your team then you move to to Saquon on where you know. He has the week eleven by his best case. Scenario is picked one. He's been at best mock draft pick. One at worst has been picked six He's averaged around two point nine so he's either going two or three for most people It's really he is the he's the most valuable running back outside of Christian. Mccaffrey I suppose if you look at everybody else because Saquon last year had injury issues but then turn it on later on half and we still know that the giants offense of line is not the best right. We know. He's not the best. We know things can get kind of weird. And what have you Michael? Thomas is a guy who you would think for. How many targets he receives he is. He's he's a stud in any P p. r. version that you can have him. Well he's still a stud to just not the best stud among everything else. Oh he has a six week by but he's the first wide receiver off the off the board just because the amount of volume that he he gets. Somebody told me the other day that he is Kinda like Russell Westbrook in a sense of. He's he is but a more efficient guy I guess but the sheer volume is very reminiscent of what would happen with Russell Westbrook in basketball or he just brings so may status as you can't do anything but look at it. He's so efficient and we all know he is literally the number one target for the New Orleans Saints. It is not even close. Next is zeke Elliott at four in Ezekiel Elliott has an interesting way of being right. Now this will be his first season since last year. Of course with not having some real deal weird start to the season. I suppose he'll get right off to the races right ready in going compared to what everybody else has to deal with off to the races. And he will be able to really showcase what he's capable of at the very early start of the season for fantasy owners so last year he started off. Kinda slow of course. Because he was coming back getting his body and shaping and he started to put it on later on down the line. But we really need Zeke Elliot to really push the boundary now. I don't know if he's going to have a another explosion season I think he'll be serviceable. And that's just in by serviceable. He's GonNa get you twenty points because the cowboys no matter what offerings weapons they get on the outside. The all ends and begins with Ezekiel Elliott's run game offensive line. Doing wonders helping back out in the process so it shouldn't have to really worry about Ezekiel Elliott's numbers dropping and also his Numbers in the passing game aren't necessarily something that is to is to out of sorts in my opinion to to really wear worry about as far as standard procedures but for example. There's some guys standard Liege's you're gonNA want to kind of avoid later on down the line so I would say that guys like Austin Acura is somebody who you may. WanNa look at somebody who's not super catch dependent and in the running back. Stay against dating. If they don't score a lot of touchdowns you want a guy who's going to get majority of the carries and still able to catch up the back foot. It's hard to get. That's why running backs go so so quickly N. P. in non. Pr Leagues. Because at the fact that they do a lot in there point value adds up quite a bit at the end of the day. So let's say for example. Melvin Gordon in a non. Pr Legal Standard is a pretty weird investment to make. Because he's not a guy who does he does. He does run the ball. Let me not say he runs the ball a lot but he's really really versatile in the passing game but here he's ranked forty first all all as far as wide receivers and running backs as far as total rankings. With if we go to running backs for standard real quick you'll be able to see on this ranking chart that he's still in tier four when it comes running he's the eighteen rank quarter or running back within the class. So you have guys like winner for net Chris Carson. Todd Gurley even Austin actor to a certain extent Aaron Jones. Josh Jacobs Nick Chubb Joe Mixing. Those guys are head of him because of the amount of touches he takes. Now you know guys but then you think about what? What about guys like Marlon Mac Marlon one. He's his value. Has dropped tremendously due to the pick of John Taylor. Because you're on the Taylor. The nineteenth ranked and he has not played a down of football. Because we know he's capable of Marlon Mac. He's a to down back unfortunately and as much as I enjoy watching him play and I liked having a team he really is the new version of Jordan Howard. And it's funny because they're back to back. As far as the running back. Rakings ARE CONCERNED. They are back to back. It will be extremely extremely tough for guys like him to survive and Standard League play and invite survive. I mean thinking that he's going to be your breadwinners your breadwinners belonging Tier One and two and some tier three depending on what the season they have. So you have to remember this in order to continue to draft in a good place so then you have wide receivers of course and standard where you have your Michael. Thomas Retiree Your devante atoms now after Michael. Tom Is I have to say you have to look at guys like tyreek. And you have to look at guys like Andrey because and Devante those three like. Julio is interesting because this targets. He'll get like ten targets but it really is. It doesn't come out two touchdowns touchdowns super super valuable in Standard Liege's because if you're not scoring touchdowns you really aren't doing too much and standards nineteen points as well. Obviously so like you say. Oh Dell is in tier three. Oh they'll had two touchdowns last year. He was not very viable as a wide receiver. Pick in Standard League format. I had Odell and Julio last year and somehow someway I just was not doing well and maybe it was just because it was a bad year for wide receivers but maybe looking at it from a value standpoint. There is a lot of wives. He was scoring more touchdowns than those two and does their value was over them last year but they have seen to still keep their overall sense of value for the season to come maybe outliers but you see guys cortlandt sudden at seventeen had a pretty solid year last. You keep this. Is Our court fan page here at the end of the day? That's what we are. I guess that's what we're going to stay. But looking over the rest of the the the lines and the tier list. You'RE GONNA see a lot of guys who you need to really be accountable. Juju is thirteen and standard. But if you look at about to talk about in a few seconds things will change so always remember that things do change from standard. Pr There are a lot of constants because some guys just above the idea of wheat format and another but things do change. So we're going to go ahead and get ready to go to break and then coming out of the brain and talking about P. R. HALF PBR. Because we kinda the same and we're just going to go in all on that like woods guys are to look out for who the sleepers NPR. Which ones you WANNA feel? Feel hours when you want to wait on. That's coming up right now. Are you looking to get your college football becks looking to get the latest news on your Favorite Schools Dean the Mc College Football podcast is your ticket to all things college football to us as we talk college football from the National Championship? The college rivalries the bowl game to the heisman trophy which converts is the best. We've got you covered for the big ten as the big twelve the PAC twelve. Abc and everything in between download the since the college football podcast on Itunes stitcher soundcloud Google. Play or anywhere you fly podcasts just tyke GS empty in the search bar. Okay so welcome back. Gsm senior fantasy football podcast. Where just before we were talking about? Standard Lead Rankings. And looking at what? The pre-draft is looking life for the upcoming NFL. Twenty twenty fantasies on four Senator Leagues. So now we're going to look into PR and if you're new to fantasy right you need to know what are. Is that what you know which one you would like to play in right so what? Pr PR stands for points per reception. Usually there are two types of PR that most people generally play if they're playing in this format it is one. Pbr and point five one PR means one point per reception. So if Micheal Thomas catches a Paul for ten yards he gets a point. One numeral one point one point for the cat and one point pretend yards unless you have different scoring sightings of course but generally when one point pretend ten yards so you would have two points in total half P pr. You get half a point per catch so he would be of course one point. Five is the total in that scenario. So that's really all there is to it the PR but why PBR is so interesting as a place for Matt is that it makes certain players value. Jump Up late through the roof because you'll have guys who generally are kind of a third third down back or a pass catching bad or back or a Scott backer. Things like that and in standard format they would be kind of lingering around the lower tiers and they would not have as much value but in a p PR valuable medically skyrockets. Because they're still getting those extra points from the cat so if we're looking at overall rankings top ten or so we'll see some interesting changes as a change that we started before so we did not have a tier one for Alvin Kamara in there or dalvand cook and we didn't see Davante Adams in the top ten. We didn't see Joe Mixing the top ten or Derrick Henry or Julio Jones but things are changing now things change because of the P p. r. the point for reception so of course the top four. Don't change because it's really hard to make the they're good and standard. They're probably good. Npr and. That's just how it is. But Chris McCaffrey say for Michael. Thomas Ezekiel Elliott. They'll your top four so to speak but NPR then we get into some the nitty gritty. So we have Kamara at five down and cook at six Davante Adams. Seven candidate eight. Joe Mixing Nine. Julio at ten now who you're one is really interesting because I have personal experience. Drafting Julio before last year and I had him in a Standard League my God if I had him NPR. I'd be feeling better about my position last year in in fantasy league because he gets so many targets he gets the ball look at his way so many times and he does catch the ball but his yardage doesn't always mean a lot because there's always somebody right there breathing down his neck and we all know this. Now Julio is not a touchdown machine per se. He is one of the more elite wide receivers. We've seen in this game ever. But he is not a touchdown score by nature because to be honest. He just doesn't get that much face to do that. People COVER HIM DOUBLE. Cover them sometimes. Triple cover. Julio is one of the better why was he was we had in this generation and that comes with a price he does not get to go in on as much as you would like to see him get to do and you see it at multiple levels that wide receivers unless you have unreal levels of separation selected tyreek Hill. You're just not going to get it and you don't see it as often even everybody's touchdown numbers do drop eventually when you get to the levels of the top elite. So that's why you really only have a few seasons worth of a player. exhibiting signs of maximum potential. Right guys are still leaving them in one on ones or things like that because once they get to that level they want the money and when you got the money you may not have the capital be draft or free money to go get a guide to put alongside him to ease the tension. Even then. You're still going to get double team. You're going to need a lot of weapons around to make people not come in. Bring the double right or you have to be so other worldly like tyreek Hill. Who honestly has argument to be the best wide receiver in the NFL? Just based off of what he's able to do on the field his impact. But I don't want to say he's the best virus even if I WANNA to say he might be the best weapon to have in the NFL. I don't think he's the best wide receiver so back. Let's go and break these down position by position for wide receiver running back. Because you know that's how we do it here at the DSM see fantasy football. Podcast all right so running backs as you can see Alvin Kamara and Dobbin Cook. Come in hot steamy ready to get some things going. So let's switch the standard real quick because those two are in the top five in tier one for that but in standard like we talked about earlier there was only one tier three and tier one. It was Saquon Christian. Mccaffrey and everybody else was interior. To so and Alvin. Kamara was behind their henry in standard but and also behind them cook by the way but in P. PR he takes. A huge leap jumped. Three spots above both of them and now Dobbin Cook is five. Derrick Henry six do mixing the seven right. Things are making sense. Austin Equa equity was not in the top eight in Standard Austin is all the way right. He's all the way at thirteen now. He's worth eighth. He jumped five spots as heat. That's huge in fantasy huge. That means a lot of difference. You see Kenyan drake same position jumps and really really cements themselves in a different place and then you see guys like Chris Carson following you see on Jonathan Taylor doesn't really move too much in twentieth still but you see guys like Mark Ingram Kinda fall. Because he's not really pass catching might since he left the saints and you'll see guys who like Saudi Michelle who is just not a p PR friendly running back kind of plummet Phil Lindsay not favored running back. Kinda plumbing Jordan Howard plummeted thirty nine MARLA MAC forty second NPR. They're not their skill set to be in or there's just not as fruitful as some of these guys that are available to go get because we know what they're capable of and the pass catching the Leonard Fournette. One is kind of interesting to me but he kinda is they do it all back because they have no one else to really lean on so that is something to look out for as well. Clyde declare being sixteen is value that is value is a value value. If you see him pick him up the best. That people are taking him at seven. But that's outlier stuff. The worst is fiftieth. Come on this. There's value in finding a guy like him a rookie. You GotTa do it. Think about all the top rookies. The last few rookies had really really killed seasons. Two of them came from the chiefs. Kareem Hunt and of course was the rookie too. But this is another situation of course where you're gonNA find yourself a rookie. That's going to get a lot of playtime immediately about Josh Jacobs. A of places mealy mild sanders. Playtime Alvin Kamara. Once they got rid of Adrian Peterson playtime and he broke the scene. This is what we look for in fantasy. You GotTa look for value at lower places because we all know where the top people are. We all know what that looks like. So people are not just going to abandon them. They're gonNA take them where they can get them. So you gotta look at beyond that list. Okay so moving into wide receivers real quickly before we wrap this up this segment least as we can see. Julio makes it to the top three NPR while when he was in standard he was well he was four. But you know things do change so for example. It's weird because tyreek was second in wide receivers for standard but in PR. He moved down to fifth Davante Adams. Julio Jones the Hopkins Jumped Him Chris Guy when the six Alan Robinson seventh and then you kind of have house party jumping around. Odell moves thirteen. Npr and that's probably due to predictions of him. Still probably being the number one option but at the same time He. There's a lot of weapons in Cleveland. Ed you're seeing by tier three. You're seeing a lot of number one options in league. Kinda go once we get to tier four. We're seeing a lot of pseudo number ones. Are you seeing more number? Two options offenses. So you'll see Robert Woods. And then you see Calvin Ridley. Aj Brown we don't know how established he's GonNa be devante Parker. We don't know how established you'll be. Dj Shark of course same deal defined digs is the number one option and he's very low on this raking for PR. But that's probably because due to what we've seen Stefan digs before he was kind of more of the Bangor bus guy as we saw Adam feeling is still ranked ahead of him because he just got saw more touches anyway and that's just kind of generally how that will be. We'll look at someone like Jarvis Landry. Who is twenty nine right and we go back to standard? We'll go back to standard. And where is he now? S Now a lot of movement. So some guys don't change right some guys don't chain but for the most part if you look at all the things change between the two and three range as far as jump ability when it comes to things change for running backs to pr is really good for running backs. That are trying to make some noise. But let's say our final break and there will come back in the podcast. This is your ultimate. Stop everything sports the Golden state media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL? Melby the NBA Eh man. It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports broadcasts. Listen okay so coming back to the PODCAST. I want to remind everyone for wanted to listen to the DMC podcast network. We do great things but really overall over the last fifty minutes or so. This podcast has been about value. And what you can get from certain players or certain ideologies league winners of course for the most part that's what the themes podcast was about value and at the end of the day. You have to know what you value more out of players because last segment. We're going to be talking about. Which ones did you choose to play for yourself P PR or non PR Standard Leagues? So when I first started playing fantasy football way back in like maybe two thousand eight two thousand nine. I was playing Standard League for a very long time and it was fine. It was all great and in the hood and you know we did what we had to do back in the day. I was drafting. You know I wasn't that smartest fantasy football and I'm not afraid to admit that I would do the trio thing I would draft the marquees coast in the Jimmy Graham and the drew brees and we just keep pushing and I play with a bunch of friends that I liked. And that's just how we played fantasy. Sports was I any good probably not but you know what it brought me more and more in love with football and I loved it about it but Standard League that League was Standard Leagues. Basically on the principle of star Players Rules Stander Leagues and MPR star players. Still rule above all but there is a better middle ground for people to be successful than in standard if your team's of kind of wide receiver to and threes and why receive are running back to or guys running back by committee you are going to suffer. You'RE GONNA suffer and nine times out of ten. You may have just one star who's trying to carry you. And if that star is in the League winner you are through. You gotta make some major changes. You gotTa See who's playing. Who's playing the hottest? At the time it gets really really bad. Because you'll see a lot of point differentials between guys on your bench and guys new starting lineup and you really have to pay attention to. Who are the real breadwinners? Because at the end of the day targets. Tell you two things they tell you who the quarterback trust who the offense goes to those two things you need to figure out where the targets are coming from. And you've got to look back at film or your look back at status. You gotta look go to resources online and figure that stuff out in Standard League. And it's not very forgivable. Stanley's aren't forgive aren't forgivable PBR. Leagues are more Forgivable Standard Leagues. But don't get it twisted. Pr is still still a competitive thing. Because everybody has the same forgive ability clause that you would think about so for example having somebody like Austin over the last few years that I've played with he is he's had a really really interesting fantasy career because he just gets he just racks up numbers. But you have guys like Marlin Max on your bench and on average. Probably go around the same place. Especially if it's a touchdown right but you're getting much more value in a standard league from someone like Allison Ikley than you are from Marlin Mac and that is just a pure fact. Marlin macktaz cash out of the backfield. He makes up for in other ways. By being the belltower for the colts for a little while but being a bell cow isn't always what is cracked up to be because P P are all about usage rates in potentially in cat Michael Thomas Usage rate is through the roof. As far as how many targets he gets to how many catches he completes and the amount of yardage he picks up per play. And if he gets the touchdown that's his icing on the cake. Because he's already coming out with twenty points P. PR. Like it's it's nuts. Christian McCaffrey. And P P. R. is a cheat code and it's nuts and standard. They're still really good but PBR. Makes Things Nutty so when you go into pr you have to understand everybody's value as far as running backs are concern as far as high volume wide receiver. Usages concerned are going to go up again. They're GONNA cost more. They're going to bring him more value to you. So you have to look at those guys and you gotTa look for examples in the cut. You gotta look in the Tall Grass. If you're a pokemon fan you know what I'm talking about yet looking tall grass and you can't be afraid to find some gems you gotta go digging because you gotta find the guys who might get a lot of value so clyde declare you must. You must look for guys like him. Because I'm telling you telling you right now. He is going to be the guy everybody is GonNa look for. He's not a secret. Everybody is understanding of what he's going to be as far as what he's replacing. Who is he going to be? He's replacing Kareem Hunt kind of vacancy. That has been felt last season. Although Damien Williams did do it quality job they do need they like to back systems and they give the ball to feel like is playing the best football at the time and quite everything. Clare fits their scheme. Fits what they like to do. And you got look at like that when you go from that to. Let's say last year jobs Jacob. Josh Jacobs everybody was higher on Josh Jacobs. Why because he looks like a guy who fits in a in a modern? Nfl running back system. And that's what people are looking for. Unfortunately the Derrick Henry. They're very few and far between and to be completely honest. Most of them don't pan out in today's NFL because they're catching ability and maybe even there blocking ability isn't one hundred percent. Let's look at Sony Michelle as an example. He's not necessarily a body type like Derrick Henry but ideology stays the same he is not a pass catcher whatsoever and it brings his fantasy. John brings his potential fantasy value to the complete halt. The toilet the pooper. It's not there anymore. And you see guys like James White still be valuable on a team like the Patriots who run two running backs. Because one catches is out of the backfield and picks of yards and gets better touchdown situations is a better scheme fit for the Patriots then overall Frassoni Michelle Saudi. Michelle is very much a two down back in. That is a no no. Mpp are unless he is like your flex or something like that. You don't want and you can find better flexes than that situation. That doesn't mean that Sony. Michelle typically isn't somebody you don't want on your team if you have no choice you gotta go get him but he shouldn't be your your first option. If that's the case new draft kind of went wonky and you can probably find somebody who will give you as much value Sony Michelle or you can trade them away. You gotta figure something out but the end of the day. You can't have those guys on your team. Pr But in standard. You can kind of get away with guys like Sony Michelle because he isn't catching the backfield anyway. You won't get the targets you won't get to the point per reception. It'll be okay but at the same time you gotta remember just because you're not getting the points per reception targets still matter you know why because he was targeted. Let's say I'm Kamar even though he's lower in Standard Leagues? You have to remember that. He's still get the catches not the point for the catch. You still catch the ball and get yards and yards adds up. Of course you know Alvin. Kamara has a tendency of getting a hundred plus yards per like from the. From the line of scrimmage not rushing but from the scrimmage so he catches and he runs out of the backfield that is valuable information. And that's valuable. That's valuable to teams all across fantasy football. And you have to keep that in mind. So which ones did you play? It depends on who you are as as a fundamentally as a person because this is how breakdown standard leagues are for people who enjoy football. But don't WANNA get too involved with looking at the minor the minor details the intricacies and things like that and I don't mean that to slice Standar- standardized just as like it has its own complexities right but as far as you know who this player is. You know what you can get. Standard League is about the stars. You Go Standard League. That's where you don't have to worry about too much. Pe- Pr is where you start to see guys bust out picks. You wouldn't even consider without your first go round through PR and it takes you like Lisa season to really understand what kind of value system people base their ideal on NPR. But that's kind of it those are you to but thank you for listening to the GS. Fantasy football podcast. 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Running Backs Preview Part Two (08/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Running Backs Preview Part Two (08/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS, sports. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie Heath Ben. Part. Two of your running backs preview for twenty twenty Atta Mazer here Dave Richard Your. We know you know you. You know how you feel about running backs. Welcome back. Thank you. Well said good intro there he's comings and Ben Gretchen here he. Running back this year. That's fine. I like him. Okay. All right and Ben I gave a little love to the running back dead zone yesterday. Not as well as you could I'm sure but I pointed out how disappointing the around three and four running backs have been. The last couple of years has it going? How do you feel about running backs? Running backs. None of them. But I just I don't like running backs. What don't like? You've been hurt. Dato matter. which ones you like we'll see which ones you like as we go through the show. DRAFT HIM IT ADP review here on for us. It's Monday afternoon for you. It's Tuesday and remember we have twitched tonight doing a PPO mock draft on twitch I'll tell you more and more about that. First thing I wanted to I exercise we're going to do here is four different SPA AWO exercise I didn't sign up for this. That after your APP state joke yesterday I know you didn't sign up this yes. Okay. By the way. Dave. Almost wore that shirt today that would have been really weird. or or? Amusing. Musing if we have the same shirt or on Youtube, youtubecom slash fantasy football today okay I'm giving you each a spot in the draft you're gonNa tell me based on average rap position half PBR from fantasy pros. How would you approach running backs just give me an example of maybe one way to do it. I'm going to give myself the first pick since I had the first pick last weekend in the flex draft two. Saturdays at this point. And I'll tell you how that went. That was an industry draft. I gave Heath I think the Fifth Pick Ben, the eighth pick and Dave the twelfth pick. So here we go I pick how do you approach running back? All right. You're taking McCaffrey number one if you have the second pick could take Barkley Camaro Z whatever. But you got your start running back. So this was a twelve team league. It was three receivers to flex spots and it was half PTR. In round two running backs went pretty brin pretty early. So the best available were James Connor and Melvin Gordon in my opinion for net was off the board Aaron Jones. Off The board Todd Gurley was outboard but I just went Juju Smith. George cadle and that means I'm GONNA be a little bit weaker running back. But I'm okay with that especially to get cable round one McCaffrey round to judy round three kid around four. I did not get much luck in this draft. Jonathan Taylor went three picks before my pick to Jamie I took Devon single. Terry and I took Tyler Lockett at the four five turn. So that gives me two running backs two receivers in a tight end by I two picks. I. Really Wanted Ronald Jones at the end of round six. He went to pick before me. So I took Marlin Mac doesn't feel great and then took brandin cooks. Now, three running-backs through my first seven picks I finished with Daryl Henderson in round eight AJ Dylan Josh Kelley later in the draft. McCaffrey. Single. Terry Mac Henderson Dylan and Kelly. It's not great. It's not great. I went back and I reviewed it. What could I have done differently? What could I have done better? Look Personally I. think that taking James Connor twenty fourth or fifth overall instead of George. KIBBLE. Would have been a mistake would have been reached so I don't regret those picks maybe I could've taken jk. DIVA's instead of Marlon Mac maybe that might help me later in the year snack and help me earlier in the year. Maybe I could've taken Philip Lindsay this probably where I could have done better. Philip. Lindsay instead of dairy Slayton something like that yes yeah. Zach Moss instead of Darius Slayton but remember it's a three receiver league and Catches Count Yeah This is actually the way that you describe that as a is like I I would love to respond to because the two situations where he said the guy you wanted didn't go eric's using went just before you and so you just took another guy. That's the exact situation where I think it's wrong to take a running back in those routes like that is if you WanNa talk about a mistake in my opinion, your mistake is that you still stuck with running back even though there wasn't the running back that you wanted like were you didn't get wrong Jones Beach Mar Mac you just take another receiver there you get strong a different that's what I do you get strong another position and you understand you can build up you take an extra one later and you and you hope that you get one of those late round hits that Volts forward just because of an opportunity opening up for them but running backs position where that can happen and I think so many drafters the natural thing and the how extremely running back unfriendly I am in drafts is so uncomfortable when you're doing it and so many drafters do what you just described as I'm not trying to get something wrong. But that is like the crux of the way that I think about it when I draft like don't just chase it because there's a position that you need to fill. Okay. It's easier to do though because he had McCaffrey I been. Yeah. Of course absolutely. Okay. I completely, Hey, Devon single terry and Marlon Mac or two running backs that went after the like I like those guys enough and you do need some running back depth. Look. Sometimes you have to take unexciting players because you're going to have by weeks and you're GonNa have injuries and you need eight points to get by in the waiver wire stinks. So I don't completely regret the pics but I I get that philosophy. Okay. Let's go to fifth pick heath. How would you this was a real draft? I'm going to let you unless you. Have a real draft drawn otherwise using how would you structure your team at running back and this is the problem that I have when we talk about half pr in that like I know it's a nice mcvay after of the two formats and so hopefully, it will apply a little bit to both but it's also of the three probably the one that's used the least. And so looking at half P. ADP. Michael Thomas Is Fifth Derrick Henry is sixth. Well, if it was a p league, I would take Michael Thomas and I just wouldn't get a running back in the first round. It was a non league I'm definitely taking Derrick Henry in the first round at fifth if he's there. In the second round again, looking at this ADP I'd be pretty thrilled to get Kenyan Drake Austin Mile Sanders and they're all showing they should be there in the second round. The fact is they're never there in the second round of the drafts we do I don't think they probably are going to be there for you either. So I'm probably taking Travis Kelsey or George biddle. Okay and then okay. All right. Fine. So you have maybe no running backs new I two picks or maybe of Henry and kit or whatever. Well, if I have Michael Thomas and Travis Kelsey I am completely fine having no running backs now what Now you're going to have to be I. think there are running backs available in round three that are worth taking their I'm still a pretty big fan of Chris, Carson? And I'm pretty happy to get him in the middle of the third ranch I'm okay with that. So that's probably the to I. Don't have any running backs. If I've already taken a running back I'm more likely to take Dj more or Calvin Ridley in that spot and around three. But again round four James Connors there I think James Connors an awesome fourth out bic. So I'm perfectly happy. So if I start my draft with Michael Thomas Travis Kelsey Chris Carson James Connor I've got two of my top fifteen running backs, my number one wide receiver and I remember one tight end. Fantastic. What if you can't get Carson Connor? Who's your backup plan? There's not really from the fifth spot I. Don't think there is another running back I would take an either of those two spots, Jonathan. Taylor. I would not take him in the first four rounds. I would rather start with Michael Thomas Dj more Calvin Ridley Travis Kelsey Okay Okay Fair enough. I'd feel great about that and then I wouldn't really hate deck around five. Okay. Then who are some mid to late round? Best you're going to be taking like there's there are and that's the thing is it's very true that there's this group of elite running backs that I've Kinda think probably runs out before you get to the end of the first round, but we're expanding it to go into the second round. That are true difference makers in hard to make up for if you don't have one of those guys but there's also a ton of running backs available after round six than I am fine with starting with if I have guys like that I would in this type of situation, I'd like to have one of like David Montgomery in full. Round seven or eight. I'd love to have one of Tariq go and what I want is to guys maybe Marlin macro Kerryon Johnson that I feel like I can start weeks one, two three and then I want a bunch of lottery tickets you mentioned jk Dobbins. Daryl Henderson chase Edmunds. Tony. Pollard Andor Madison. I went those types of guys as long as I have to feel good about starting week one. All right. Let's go to the eighth or ninth pick right around there. Ben Uh, give you that draft slot you approach running back. Yet tough spot in drafts this year I would. Probably because I thought it was interesting. He did mention Cook but I have cooked still at five in this format or wasn't looking at either Thomas or Henry and as soon as those guys are gone in Henry's not a consideration for me even in half be happy are so eight it would be as soon as those other five are gone the four that we agree on Cook. I'm going to be going to either Thomas For. It's tyreek Hill at number two or Davante. Adams. If if he'll goes really high and then on the way back probably getting myh rb one I don't hate taking are being the first two rounds but certainly at the back half of the first round when you're not getting when those elite running backs at the heath was talking about. It does become a little bit more more precarious and so I think in this scenario probably get one but I can also see what he's just said as being my structure. Miles Sanders or Clyde Brasilia's elite or mixing in half BP I. Think they both get dinged a little bit I. I like them both and no I don't think they have a lead upside I. Don't I don't think of them as Lee picks I think they have There might might be six in our seven P pr but I don't think it was leaks in the second round I might go with one of those guys if they were there Iran. Probably, if they were there if not like a job or Jacobson, happy are fine for me and then basically from the third at I, know of taking Tiller tunnel drafts I still really liked John Taylor I. Still I I will say that discussions that we've had have made me recognize it kind my path for his ascension is probably more of an upside path where. He's getting plenty of workers in the season because they're software early season schedule. Then he's earning a huge role in the second half. Let's probably more of an upside path and more. Particularly we get closer to the season and I'm seeing what's happening in baseball and some other sports. I am sticking to that idea that running back the most opportunity based position is the one where The the late around picks can gain the most value just by getting thrust into a starting role. If somebody has to miss time, we already know running backs time at a high rate anyway. So I don't mind having like he said loading up on lottery tickets having a whole running back room and not late round, not sixteen throughout monetary picks. But like from like around seven or eight through around thirteen where we can get a lot of those guys he just named or. I would stress that to include Boston Scott who I love and Barrington Evans and there's several names if I get a whole running back group of those guys, it looks like I have no one to start in week one I understand that there's concern about that ideal. You like you said, you'd you'd want guys fill your Zach mosses and other guy throwing that group Antonio Gibson is going in that range. But how about how are you getting like me your first five rounds? From eight or nine spot. Okay let's say I take tyreek or Adams doesn't matter, and then I'm GonNa take one running back in the second round in the third round probably trying to get dj more fees there in the fourth and I'm trying to get Brown if he's there in the fifth round, I'm taking another one of those receivers you know single Terry was there when I talk about the single terrific. I don't hate single Terry. I would not even put him anywhere near the available receivers that are there when you just. Think about it in raw terms like feeling good starting spot if Tyler lockets there if he's not digs or those types of players Terry maclaurin, Dj Shark in the fifth and unloading up at receiver I'm probably addressing tight end at some point I might take Mark Andrew depending on where he goes I I could make the case that keep he's made about taking Kelsey or kill in the second round and then yeah, just loading up on a lot of late around running backs and that strategy is It's the eight slot, but it's kind of applicable to where I'm drafting from anywhere. All right Dave let's go a little old school here and maybe show a little bit more loved running backs. Heath and banner. Are risk-takers. They are what? I'm sorry. What did I say what I say like? Running backs are still the riskiest position. Very, not even first two rounds, not not that bad of first two rounds. But. They could still breakdown of. Last year. They did pretty well last year I mean it was it was kind of disappointing because Barclay and Chimera got hurt I get that but. That's that's the big part of the risk because they are more likely to get hurt today are they are but they're also there are also more likely to be great than any position I'd say you know what was the first round pick last year I pick yeah he was a huge bus. I'm you know what I'll tell you. I'll tell you exactly what happened last year two, thousand David. Johnson was another one obviously somebody got traded but that's a good example of someone who was valuable because of the size of his work load and the running back workload can just vanish and he got a little injury and i. it was really chase. Edmund. GOING GONNA. Tell you what ADP was Barkley Chimera McCaffrey. Zeke David Johnson James Connor Levy on Bell Nick Chubb Round One round so that's more misses the hits. Okay round two was very good though Cook girly mix for net. Carson Damian. Williams, that's five out of six finishing in the top fourteen in half. So that's really good and then overall I mean we're David Johnson go I thought he went and Did he was around one pick. His realm pick and that was an unusual because the two previous years around one was a lot better than that, and those guys basically had to get injured. To be bad I'd say or. Bell several Levy Bell David David. Johnson was a top ten running back before he got her. That's the point though soon as he got banged up his backup performed well enough that they were like you know what? He was valuable because of his opportunity he was an efficient runner he was adding value in the passing game was a bad. He shouldn't have taken a guy who who was bad. Who's basically got lucky with workload the year before average like three point seven yards per carry. It was a bad pick, but you know running back. In hindsight to say the battery. Picks. Trump I the first two I look I laid out on yesterday show. The first two rounds are typically pretty good. They are at then you've even made that point I mean that's where they have better rates for sure. Yeah. So take risk but. It's hard to find hard to find running backs. You take this strategy like last year, the strategy that heath and Ben just laid out. Probably lost it was not a good strategy last year and it's not true I don't agree because I did it and one leaks. Yeah. But the League wide receivers that we all consider so safe every year they were good last year and where were those high upside running backs that paid off last year I mean, yeah it didn't happen as frequently. Backup. Dave, you're picking twelve would you do well first and foremost? I think the last five minutes of this podcast relate out the very first thing that every fantasy magic should do before they go into their draft and that's look at a list of running back rankings and find out where you're comfortable. Everybody's GonNa feel comfortable with the first four guys and I think most people will feel pretty comfortable, Alvin Cook. But how comfortable would you be starting Clyde towards e Clyde Edwards layer as your number one running back her mouth Sanders Joe? Mixing. Drake those names, Aaron Jones we talked about him on Mondays podcast is that somebody that you'd be really cool starting how do you feel about Connor Carson and then you go all the way down to girl in Gordon the fewer running backs that you're comfortable with the sooner you should draft running backs in your fantasy draft because. The very least you want to have a team review like your players and if you go zero R B at least you know hey look I like a lot of running backs later I want to be safe early on you're comfortable at that you know that and you'll be okay starting. Marlin MAC and Jordan Howard for the first couple of weeks of the season but you've got to be comfortable you gotTa know what you want here because at wide receiver you're gonNA find somebody worth the value in every single round. then. We've already outlined a lot of names out there that we like quarterback deeper than ever. If. I'm picking twelfth and I've got those back toback picks I've gotta come away with at least one running back but I can't say for sure I'm taking too because I know. that. There's going to be an elite wide receiver there according to the ADP that we're looking at Julio Jones is still there and I'd love to get him. But if Tyreek Hill makes that far I'm going to take him along with a running mal sanders. ADP that we're looking at fantasy prose FBI PR he's going twenty first he's a first round pick regardless of format. He's going to be great this year I'm comfortable with him being my first round pick so if I Start my draft Mile Sanders and a stud receiver and I come back in round three and I'll cross my fingers that one of Jones won't be there but Carson O'Connor will be there I'm loving it I'm happy and if they're not there that I might have to make a decision between Melvin Gordon Todd Gurley maybe there's another run back that I consider it wouldn't be John Taylor sorry Ben but it could end up being receiver tight end or receiver receiver and I've got at least one running back through my first four picks and whether you go hog wild on running back early or solo rb where you're only taking one study, you'll worry about that second rb later on I think those are the two best paths to take I think that they protect you from having to fumble through running backs all season long and it it also will save you. It'll it'll save you some face because a lot of teams in your fantasy leagues are going to have. Very good running backs, very sociable running backs, and the reason why I gravitate toward them is because they have a chance for twenty to thirty five fantasy points per game. You've got to start two of them. You can't say the same thing for wide receivers. They don't have ads much upside on a per week basis or a per season basis as running backs. Do I want to get that position loaded? If I can okay I'm just going to a looking at the flex draft. The the guy who the eleven th pick he took Clyde Edwards air and Austin. And then he took our full. Then he took our Robinson and Robert Woods. I mean, and that's exactly my point is that you can still get to very good running backs and is that P or full dvr three receiver league with axes I. You know you're GonNa prefer those in full P, p., R. But at least you're getting something out of them in half and the receivers that you've gotten rendering four. Great. Yeah. No one should complain if Allen Robinson and Robert Woods are your to starting wide receivers in a format where receptions cap. You're only to starting receivers. You GotTa Start Three and you gotTa Start Flexes to Got Stefan Digs as third and he's got flex. Yeah. I mean he's got camakers as well. Okay. And that many more receivers. Yep. So you you named his first three go through. Their actor Alan Robinson Robert Wood Stefan digs I five picks, the other receivers CD Lamb Stevenson's Corey Davis. Let's look at the twelve pick this draft though bic also went rb rb Josh. Jacobs. Nick Chop AJ BROWN JJ Brown. Amari Cooper. So that's another way you can start. I'm not going to go through the whole team. No, but. I think you're GONNA see a lot of teams go with two running backs to start this year goes excel. People fear having to start a running back that they're not comfortable with at some point during the season and it's GonNa Happen to somebody if half the teams in the League are GonNa go running back running back all these running backs are not going to stay healthy all. Year long and and maybe that's the point that Ben is really trying to hammer home is that the fragility of the positions should matter but everybody's GonNa have six running backs on their team everybody's GonNa take shots on late round guys. It's it's the fantasy major that hits those late round guys and or more hits on the ground running back. That's going to coast to the fantasy playoffs. I just WanNa, the heat don't WanNa. Bring you back because I feel like I cut you off earlier this strategy of taking late round flyers the pollards dead men's the Madison's Addison gets a little bit more work The problem I have with it is that it could depend on your bench size and you could have injuries early in the season and you could have a roster crunch and how can you justify taking someone who literally giving you one or two points strictly on your bench as a I'm hoping someone else gets injured. Play it's sometimes it's tough to justify keeping them and you end up having to cut them. So that's why I don't want to go too heavy on it and would what do you think about that? Adam, heath just stepped out. So let's throw that question to Gretch. All right heats. Yeah. No. Question I think in shallower bench formats like some of the ones that we play, we played in it with some of our CBS last year. I think it's a lot harder to execute this. Absolutely. One hundred percent agree won't disagree with what you just said there was five bench spots. in that format, it makes it a lot more difficult and part of what just said is ever team's going to have like six running backs and whoever hits on the late running back. Part of my strategy is just based on bulk. We don't know who round stars are going to be a we'd be drafting them higher if you draft five of them compared to someone else drafting too late round running backs, you immediately have a greater chance of I mean even if you're not better at picking players, you have a better chance of one of them hitting just based on the fact that you have significantly more of them. We don't know where the injuries are. GonNa come. You know it's very unpredictable, and so there is something of a you know taking multiple bites the apple approach to that right and you know what going to say. Do both get the running backs early load up on. Later you don't necessarily have to carry a lot of bench wide receivers and I'm fine with that. The to the two starts at Adam just read with two running backs in the first second round I'm not opposed to that I'm not that's not my issue is in the third to the seventh or eighth, but those those teams went running back running back. We're we're still in the top fifteen where we still trust a lot of these backs and then they went straight to receiver I'm fine with. Me Well I. Thought we were going to get into ADP quickly, but this turned out to be a pretty. Helpful conversation with some different perspectives on how to draft running backs and look I. Guess we're just kind of sitting there waiting waiting for for football to come back right and Oh, and he spects to that's good. But look this has been a very different summer. No question about it social distancing is changing. Some are quite a bit. A lot of things that we love doing are being postponed or canceled. 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I. o Dave just sent me a note Alvin Kamara said he tore his knee in week six and was dealing with it the whole season. Well, that's not true date. He was dealing with after week six but fair enough. So. That about camera and we're about to talk about him because let's get into our average draft position. Review here fantasy prose half pr there are a few that really stand out is one that I don't think. We really believe like Mile Sanders going twentieth overall but maybe I. Mean I think he's a first round pick now and a lot of leagues but maybe he maybe he's back into the round round to I. Don't know. But he here running backs McCaffrey Barclays Zeke Kamera are your first four pics then Michael Thomas then Derrick Henry Than Dalvand Cook. Maybe Delve Cook I'll double check right now maybe Dobbin Cook as ahead of Henry NPR. But in half you are essentially tied and yet cook is actually because some reason. Ahead of Chimera NPR. Don't really understand that other basically. I, think what you have to recognize is at it says it on the site there there have pr rankings come from a different site than their rankings which come from a different site. Then they're not PR ranking. So I'm not just format, but I'm looking at ADP is now ranking. Yes different. Yes. I know I believe that's the same I believe the CBS rankings UC on their or under their non PR rankings. Probably Eighty Eighty, P okay okay. Anyway you got your top six running backs are McCaffrey Barclay Elliott Kamara. Cook and Henry. With only Michael Thomas Mixed in there. Do we have anything to say look we did a everyone is a bust episode a couple of weeks ago so Maybe I hope y'all heard that but do we have anything that we want to say about this? Is there a player or players that you're avoiding anyone that you like more than everyone else heath I'll give you the I if you as long as you're still here, I'll give you the first word. I believe the biggest discrepancy we have would between Dave and is with Zeke Elliott's I know he hasn't number two behind Christian McCaffrey I think I currently have him number five It's really interesting but he has been super consistent and remarkably productive on a per game basis basically always. But last year a really high touchdown rate hid that they changed the way they used them a little bit. His carries were down about ten percent from where they've ever been on a per game basis. His targets were not where they were in twenty eighteen and Tony Polar. It's pretty good. I think he's going to touch the ball a few times every game which wasn't always the case with Zeke's backup. I don't know unless he scores all those touchdowns again, the that he's going to be a top through anywhere. But all those things happened last year and he was still an incredible fantasy running back and he was still super consistent and you could say the touchdown headed guess what it's not like he's about to go to zero at touchdown. He's GonNa score a lot this year the offense is tailored perfectly for him to do exactly that when they get in the red zone defense is going to be a binding against this team. Might lose three or four to Dacca over the course season but he's been doing that every single year I think he's a safe and consistent as gets if you're looking for a safe consistent running back Ezekiel that. So, why doesn't everybody just give me your top five running backs? He started. And we're doing half PR. Why don't you tell the difference in formats I guess like I've got this in this format and this and that format. Okay. Yeah. Problem and non. I advocate McCaffrey Barclay. Henry's Zeke Chimera. and. Then Cook. And then. Cook. I'm no better than six yeah cooks, Cook Sixteen both for me I just think he's like Dave talked about safe Zeke is I can't imagine someone being riskier. Then delvin cookies with his injury history in P. P. R. I go McCaffrey Barclay Chimera. Zeke and then Cook, and then Henry. Okay. So we're going six. Six Dave you're next non er are actually it's the same order non PR. Pr. The first four McCaffrey Zeke Barclay Camera, and then once you get to full P pr. Cook, will be five in. Edwardsville. Larry will be six in non PR and I'll probably in the swing half CPR's well Derrick Henry five thousand cook six. Ben. McCaffrey Barclay Kamera Elliott Cook Edward to Lehrer. Non Don't actually have. Ranked anywhere but it'd probably be McCaffrey Barclay Elliott Than Chimera I. Think I would put Elliott ahead of Chimera non that will be close though I let him quite a bit more for some of the reasons he said Than Cook is GonNa. Stay five for me in non. Maybe Derrick Henry six but I probably would never take him. Well Jamie's basically said that you know and when we say Derrick Henry, it's like we know how high he goes. So we're we're just not gonNA take him in the first round, which means we're not GONNA get Derrick Henry is that's what Jamie said Ben seems to feel that way to. We I don't want this podcast to be the Anti Derrick Henry podcast. So why don't you be a little more pro derrick? Henry He is an incredible specimen team that if they have their way, we'll run the ball as much as any team in the NFL. They are not going to be as good as they were last year, but they went to championship game with this approach. So I expect them to be pretty stubborn. I don't think they're going to make a massive shift three four weeks in if they're sitting at two and two in terms of. Their run pass volume, and so I still expect he's going to have more carries than anyone else. He's going to be above average on a per carry basis. He's going to score a ton of touchdowns and he's going to catch somewhere between five and ten more passes than he did last year and probably break one of those for like a seventy five yard touchdown because that's what he does and nobody wants to tackle Derrick Henry. Okay. The concerns would be Ben-. What are your concerns? They. Doesn't do any of those things. Catching five or ten more passes I wanNA hear that explanation because titans GM John Robinson after draft talked up during Evans? Specifically about how a skill set translates the pass blocking. I. Don't think they have any interest in Dirk koetter catching more passes he's never caught twenty passes in a season and I have no idea why he would. Like Last last year in fifteen games than I haven't for throwing twenty percent more passes. So I would expect he'd catch a couple more as well. Okay. Yeah. I don't think there's going to be any type of big jump here in receptions I mean I've talked about on previous podcast Ben you just said it. They've had them for four years. You'd think at some point in the last four years I'd say let's get this big guy it involved in the passing game and they've never done it and he told us he's trying to earn his coaches confidence to get that role going and Darren Evans shifty running back good hands can plan the slot. He's he's GonNa take whatever big receptions bump Derrick Henry wishes he could have and then add the other concern is rushing. He wasn't a particularly efficient rusher or I mean, he was he was efficient He wasn't putting up a ton of points especially NPR scoring through week nine last year in the second half of the season when the whole offense clicked, he was obviously a monster. But when you separate out how he did that during that stretch, he was averaging six point, five yards rush from that point on he was averaging a crazy medicare is it would put him on pace. I hadn't somewhere I don't remember how high that pace was I gotcha he so he well. He had a hundred and fifty two carries in seven games. So that's well over three hundred carries his first eight games. Henry was the number nine running back and non yard number twelve and PR. He averaged only three point nine yards per carry. He might be just a guy that gets better as the year goes on I. Mean that's kind of been a theory on him as certainly held true each of the last two seasons but I, there's an argument Ben four and against let's end it here on Henry's we have lot running best because you're right about those first day games people kind of forget that he was not great but he still was top twelve, thousand, nine Pr. Pr Because he had one hundred and fifty one carries and he had eight catches but that's still I don't know. I could see it both positive and a negative. They're like you could say look he average less than four yards per carry but still got so much work that he managed to be top twelve. In non NPR not per game though probably were snapper game. All right. Anyway. That's Derrick Henry. So let's move on in the first round passed that group. And we've got Joe Mixon. Rb Seven. We've got nick. CIA. We're actually mix in the last in the top twelve. He's going tenth overall inbetween, Davante, Adams, and tyreek Hill. Nick Chubb Josh Jacobs. Aaron Jones Mile Sanders Kenyan Drake Austin. Instead of even bothering with ADP I could see these guys really going in any order So Nixon Clyde, Edwards dealer late riser. So he's not here. He's not on this list right now, but he's certainly in this group. Mixing Clydes Mile Sanders Drake Heckler. Chubb. Nixon. Aaron Jones. Think that's pretty much it. Dave. What's your take on that group? That's probably going to be late round one into round two. I. Think the majority of those running backs have fourteen, hundred, yard, nine touchdown potential, which is great. We'd love to have that honor squad the end of the year but there's a couple of them that I think can be better than that and the two that stand out to me or at were dealer because he's in Kansas City because he doesn't have Damian Williams as major competition, any more than his closest major competition is the Andre. Washington. I think it bodes very well for him to do a lot of the things that he did it Lsu four Kansas City and an offense that just makes it easy on running backs and I think Mile Sanders is in a position to to benefit from playing in Philadelphia and he's not going to every single snap, but he should be somewhere around sixty to sixty five percents of the snaps. He's a great pass catcher out of the backfield. You could really tell that he was a better runner, a more patient runner toward the end of last season his aunt pace over. His last eight games was over fifteen hundred yards. He was the first running back and and Doug. Peterson's history as head coach. Philadelphia's only a four year history but it's still a story where he had over a thousand total yards on the year and I think the sky's the limit for him to. So those two guys I look at as easy first round choices in non PR and still pretty easy first round choices in PP are if if you hear those names and you hear my argument and you're still not sold, then you're probably headed toward Michael Thomas in the first round. Yeah, but it could be more like you're it. You don't have that choice know Thomas Michael before them. Are you going to take Davante Adams retiree kill over miles, sanders and Clyde Edwards right? That's the personal choice. That fan what are you going to make? I'm taking the running backs Running backs over Michael. Thomas NPR to I'd just I've got I've got to take my stab at a player. Who's got that kind of upside Michael Thomas is great upside but I'm I'm GonNa go with the running backs I in. Here's something I was looking at like Micheal Thomas scored more fantasy points than all running backs except for Christian McCaffrey NPR Lester and we don't think he's going to score as much devante atoms pace over the past two seasons was more fantasy points than any running back besides Christian McCaffrey last year. I don't think those got like I am on board with those first four maybe I five. Over the wide receiver Clear. With quite ever dealer who I agree has enormous upside but a ton a ton of downside and again I go back to I don't think you can win your league in round one but I do think you can go a long ways towards losing it. You know it's interesting comparing the running backs, the Michael Thomas because NPR like Pr Michael Thomas in two thousand, eighteen averaged nineteen point seven fantasy points per game. Was Blown away by McCaffrey Barclays, Zeke? Chimaera. Chimaera McCaffrey and Barkley all average more than twenty three and a half twenty three and a half or more. So they crush them. So it's like I. Don't know do you kind of average out the two, thousand and two thousand? We're not comparing him to like those. We've all agreed those four or head of Michael Thomas I'm not trying to make the argument that he's better than those guys. Okay. All right fair enough I. Guess it probably was silly detour niche of Joe Mixon. Like I'm love him. Go ahead. Later we get around one, the more I love them. Just in general though I'd be like I love Mile Sanders this year. Sure. I I love. I think Joe Mixing showed us the in the last eight games the last year just how impactful he can be in fantasy and how good he could be in Cincinnati and I think Cincinnati upgraded its offense this year not just a quarterback not just having Aj. Agreement. David you have the passion. And I guess I am finding it in my heart I. Am it's beaming throughout my nostrils that I love Joe I need to know who you guys love in this group. Then, aware mouth Sanderson Kenyan drake for me are in their own tier. from six to eight NPR, and then the rest of them are in another tier. Go Mixing Shove Jacobs Henry, Aaron Jones but. I don't really take any of those guys spray great long. Yeah it's Chubb, Sanders Drake and Clyde Eh for me, and in some order, it changes almost daily. Sanders Drake Cli-. Okay. So you're not Equa. I didn't think he said I thought he was in the next group no, no this is our Ecuador is by far my favorite of this group. In any format or just NPR and NPR and and half are in non PBR Chubb is my favorite of this group. What do you think like Eh cler has had a lot of work when Melvin Gordon's been out each of the last two years. I'm thinking something like seventeen touches or more per game. Average twenty touches per game last year without Melvin Gordon and in three games without him in two, thousand, eighteen, hundred, seventeen. So. Do you think that's realistic? Are we talking seventeen and more touches per game for? If. He does. That then I'm probably still to lower them. I don't know. I don't know if that's true. Yeah, he might just be I mean he could have his worst year efficiency. Wise ever he probably will. But it's not like last year was the first time you ever extremely efficient he always has been. It's not. I mean, it's efficiency. Yes but it's also the touchdowns I think we're actor we you have to recognize how much of a difference Philip rivers to tyrod Taylor is in terms of potential targets we've talked about with Shawn McCoy net tyrod Taylor's pass before McCoy had fifty and fifty seven targets the two years that they had Watkins and Robert Woods even remotely decent to receivers Downfield parliamentary speaker Taylor his sixteen game pays as. The starter was about one hundred passes. You're than Philip rivers just on passes to go around. Then McCoy had one big season where I think it was like seventy seven targets. He led the team with a cloud over one hundred last year cut in nineteen balls. I think even Boeckler has more targets than McCoy ever had at any point alongside day whereas the clearly back in Buffalo, you're still not talking about yourself talking about a substantial shift from Russia from receptions to Russia and that's a huge difference in the potential fantasy valuables touches. Okay, let's go to the next group here. Real quick. Just WanNa. Go Round I want no more than five ten seconds thoughts on Josh Jacobs becoming a superstar fantasy superstar. It can happen I. I'm a little worried about the reception total being very high form, but if he can keep it together for sixteen games, he's the raiders lead back and it'll be. Ben Heath are grouped okay heath. Ten seconds on Josh. Jacobs. Though. We're having some issues there with heath out sounds like a typical conversation. I next round Ben. You can go grad drink water for the next five minutes I. Don't think you're drafted running for a while here. But we'll see. Leonard for Net Chris. Carson Melvin Gordon. Todd Gurley. Levy on Bell James Connor. How about that group of six and not necessarily going to be round three some of them are going to go into round four but some of them are going to be around to, as we said in the flex draft fornet and girly were around two four net, Carson. Gordon Gurley Bell Connor from what I gather connor and Carson seemed to be the favorites there. Dave's feel right debt. That's. How I feel I I'd be nervous at a lot of people are going to draft a particularly for net and bell because of past performance and they remember Lebanon, Bell, in Pittsburgh and they'll say there's no way he can be as bad as it was last year in New York and the the reality is he might see less work this year than he did last year and Leonard Fournette he's he's definitely going to see less work. In Jacksonville Now because the coaching staff does like rock Armstead, they added Chris Thompson he's going to help on passing downs and they tried to trade Leonard for net and they found no takers. So by them trying to trade Leonard Fournette, you don't try and try to play if he's good they didn't think he was good or worth keeping on the roster long-term. They didn't want to give them the contract extension and all that maybe they. Think he's an okay back but thirty one other teams in the National Football League said now we're good. We're not gonNA give you what you want for Leonard. Fournette. Okay. So what does that mean for four net? Maybe he gets traded before the season or in the middle of the season and maybe it ends up being a really big windfall for his fantasy value or maybe he stuck in Jacksonville with the coaching staff that's just like. When it comes to let him for that and they they're either going to. Plow, him between the tackles and then when it's third down, he's out of there because the new offensive coordinator trust Chris tops and as a pass catcher or he just doesn't do well period and you're left holding the bag on him for that was good. Once upon a time I'm worried that those opportunities that helped make him good aren't going to be there for him and twenty twenty. And Ben I understand your philosophy is to sort of void this group right not going to be. If. There was anyone here for Carson Gordon Gurley Bill Conner. Anyone that you think could be really good this year. Yeah. I mean it's always going to be receptions and touchdowns in a little bit offense related I think really situation is the best and that is able to stay healthy. If his knee is not an issue, he has the best chance of this group to have a big season. You know they rooted devante Freeman at a time to a little bit probably better of a pass catching back then girly which kind of a little bit weird to say. As overall. But Gurley was among there was an article today at five thirty on in separate separation desperate. He was among the worst in the league and you just kind of went out into the flat for the last couple years as a pass catcher were doing a lot much better earlier and scream. But I think if he gets some of that, back gets a little bit of a a spark back and step in. He's doing some of the things that framed done the pass game and is able to convert in in close which he's always done with rain teams devilish touchdowns last year that's the one here. That's the offense that I would target out of all these veteran backs. Competition is not great behind them. I think he did really hold onto a big role, but you can take the big points and what you just said about girly and apply directly to James Connor and say that if he stays healthy, he's in a great spot to his offensive line is great his offense as good. They're gonNA give him the rock a bunch, and he's got a shot at catching over fifty passes. He's done it before he was on pace to do it again last year and he was on pace score fourteen touchdowns last year. That's how many girly scored I believe. I look at connor as a slightly less risky version of girly mainly because his knees I think are healthier than girls, knees and I think the steelers have no choice that kind of painted themselves into quarter as much as you and I love Anthony Mcfarland Ben I, think the steelers paying themselves into quarter. There's okay. Look James Connor is going to be our guy. Well, I think Benny. Smells in the next to the I would agree with the what degree to what degree is Benny Smell going to be I agree with what you said this comparison completely except for the point about girly not having a ton of backup competition. I think conor BITs means Samuels snout McFarland has a lot more competition. Samuels team. And we as far as. Running, backs, and in competition, I think really might have more. I. Just don't know if they're necessarily good competition. Is the best name, but they always ask. Heath is brought this up I'll speak for heath since he dropped out, they always split carries in Atlanta. devante. Has Been like a fourteen carry per game guy something like that I remember my head recently. And by the way, just to bring up Melvin Gordon's name. I think Melvin Gordon's got a pretty good chance at fifty catches. You guys right because he's going to be on there for pass. protection. He scored eight or more touchdowns. Three straight years. He's just good at finding the end zone. So He's interesting to me. Sucky your offensive line forum but if you don't yeah, it's always been. Could be trouble for guy that's struggled to maintain a good rushing average. Sure. If you don't like this group, this is why. This is why a lot of people are going to take two running backs. With their first two picks after this group Mark Ingram Devon Single Terry David Johnson Jonathan Taylor. Mark Ingram Devon Single Terry David. Johnson Jonathan Taylor were twenty four running backs deep guys like any of them Ingram. Single Terry, Johnson? Taylor. I'm starting to feel like we're drafting. For the same reasons why we're drafting for net and Levian, and it's just he's been doing it for so long and he did such an amazing job last year they're five receiving touch lots of last five receiving touchdowns last year. It's hard for me to say and it's hard for me to believe. They'll actually do it again and AK Dobbins being there he was already sharing to a pretty decent degree last year with Gus Edwards Nirex Dobbins I'm starting to get cold feet on Mark Ingram even though it's a really good situation and you know there's a running back. They haven't named yet who I like in the same range and we talk about every show we're not GonNa talk about Roy Jones. Yeah. But I mean the hype train is starting to really get going with him. And then you're gonNA take him here. I'm going to take them right around here like I'm looking at my non PPO rankings and I've got girly at eighteen, Levy on Nineteen Ingram Twenty Roggio twenty-one Rosette of David, Johnson Devon Single Terry for net Montgomery, moster. In non PR and I don't know I'm kind of starting to feel like he could be better than all of them. I know John Head of all those guys to. Jonathan Taylor is the upside pick here for sure. I made a pretty payload I have ahead of all the vets still running back reads I mentioned that I'm China from taking him a favorite receivers, but I'm not moving down. I made a pretty passionate case for Devon. Single tear yesterday you can hear that I you know. I I really. I do find myself liking a decent amount of running backs that are going. In this ranger later and it's personal preference for everybody like I'm not. GonNa Take David Johnson and I just think the Texans just not been a very good spot for running backs because they don't throw the two running backs much and still do Johnson there there there could be a lot of carries but I don't really trust them to hold up David talked about that yesterday but like. I can find players in these ranges that I like So we go to the next range. It's also if you like the running backs in this range, you could take too early and then take two receivers and then come back around five and around six and get one of these guys then. Yeah. Then you've got great running back and it's is you like but? You can still got a great quarterback, but you may have lost your chance to get a great tight end, which is fine. You don't have to have a great tight end win but now you can still find a pretty guitar after round south. Fine but you can't find one of the top four. So going into this if we're going into this season thinking the top four tight ends of the difference makers. On draft anyway, Dave strategy of two running backs. Two receivers on another running back probably takes you out of the mix for those top four but. You. Just take one less wide receiver and then you've got one of those tight ends on your team because you're gonNA find a wide receiver later. Anyway. All right. Let's go to the next group here after rb twenty, four, David Montgomery remastered De'andre Swift, Kareem Hunt and camakers. Montgomery moster swift hunt acres anyone in that group I like Montgomery Okay not, Ppo I. Think he's got some sneaky upside just because of like he's generally the last back available. It's probably going to get two hundred and eighty touches and he was super inefficient last year but I wouldn't expect that to continue to Rico and with super inefficient last year two, we don't expect that to continue. So I like Montgomery especially non PR although I do think he'll catch twenty five. To thirty passes. Cream hunts my favorite NPR. I. Think he's a low in number two running back even if Nick Chubb plays all season long and Nick Mrs. Time He's a top five running back instantly. Fair enough how about swift and and acres here anybody WanNa take a shot. You gotTA invest probably a fifth round a six round pick in swifter acres. Although ADP I just don't know this ADP does doesn't really match up to what we are. Near the five six turn. Okay. So are you are you comfortable with five six pick for MOSTER ACRES OR SWIFT? Yes. But there's a but and this gets into a whole different discussion about handcuffing insurance policies for running backs. I will try and get another running back on the same team. If I take one of those three, mostly, it's my favorite of the three. I think he's breakout potential I talked last week about him catching passes. It's probably not going to happen. That was wishful. thinking swift needs to beat out Kerryon, Johnson and prove. that. He can get a lot of action on passing downs. It sounds like the offense coordinator Detroit Daryl Bebel was not over the moon for de Andrea swift and maybe he's just trying to stay even keeled way talks to the media but I it sounded to me like he was very aware that swift had a lot to work on acres has a of competition. I'm starting to really like the value and Darryl Henderson because he keeps leading drafts and and that might be where I land is if I if I decide to go moster, I'm going to try and get Devon Coleman if I swift, I'll go and get Karen Johnson but if I if I can really. Kind of wait it out in acres one that falls the farthest I would like to get him, and then I know I can wait a couple more rounds forgetting Henderson and boom I've got that rams backfield I think locked up between the two of them. Malcolm Brown will be involved, but he might just be a touchdown vulture and if it's PR, those guys can catch the football between the two of them. All of one that should be okay as a number two running back all year. Next group Sony Michelle he's RB thirty, Marlin, MAC. Ronald. Jones I suspect Jones's ahead of them now. Kerryon Johnson Yeah Michelle Mack Jones Kerryon Johnson. Does anybody think Jones, is not the leader of this group? Of Close. Who's he's the leader of the group but I I don't really share they. It's not even close intimate. Who's who's close to him. I just think he belongs in this group. He's a number three running back that if things go right, he might be a number two. Okay Like you were number three running back. In, yes, have you been following any news again in Iraq? Yeah I started following week nine last year when Bruce Arians said Ronald Jones is the guy. Fifty percent snap share twice the rest of the year. That's not a bad point and then they got rid of the guy who he was sharing. Barbara's on now he's. Replacing with Keyshawn Vaughn and Leshan McCoy. So I if they really wanted to squash Roggio, they would have done it, and if you're still listening to Bruce Arians, he's already said being of training camp that Ronald Jones is going to be the lead running back, which is something I pretty much figure it out just from talking to people close Ronald, he was the lead running back last year but that I mean but not by a wide margin I think it's going to be by a wide margin this. WANT TO SCREW UP A lot we'll look if you screw up a lot then that's that it's all GonNa. Crumble. That's all he has ever done. No, he's had some really good. Always, screws it up. He has had some great place. He's. This guy was the youngest back. Classic last year was is twenty. Two season what are you talking about I'm and I'm forgiving him his NFL career. As we know what happened is rookie year we talked about this podcast I guys. So when you look at Michelle Mac and it was a tweet, I wanted to read from Pat Thornton from established a run that Ronald Jones was the one hundred twentieth graded pass blocking running back last year and the Shawn McCoy hasn't allowed a sack since two thousand, sixteen, right it was just putting that out there Machel Mack. Jones. Carry on Johnson. How many of them have top fifteen upside? Any of them have top fifteen upside. I like Jones a lot. He's the closest of that group that might get to fifteen but things are really going to have to go his way I I think he clearly stop the inside. In not PPO, right. Yeah. Well Look I. Think it could be PR to. In, the definition of a trip back. No because he gets short yardage work. Yeah. He's going to be well no, he didn't last year you got. Russia's inside. touchdowns were from know inside the five or really close to the goal line that went to barber. Yeah. Inside of ten yards, touchdowns came from inside. Ted and Jones is a case for improvement. There's reports that he's worked incredibly hard this offseason put on weight and can do he's caught tons of balls out of jugs, machines every day. What like? Every single day. All right. Yeah. Guys weren't out during the offseason, but the case for Jones's that you still love this talent essentially all along. But like I have and now it's literally just turned twenty three weeks ago. That's how young I, listen. To to To season's already NFL disappointed but he's incredibly he's younger than some Baxter Scott is than keyshawn Paul talked about yeah. So I the the cases that he is now grown to his body and is going to be very official plant. Let's move on and talk about the next group here. It's James White's AIBA. It's Mad Brita Jordan Howard James White Philip, Linzie. Keyshawn Vaughn. That's five running backs there by the way Jacob Dobbins according this website is going one hundred and tenth overall I've never seen that. But sure. So. If that, you can get a one hundred and tenth overall, there will be very good pig but yeah dolphins running backs, James Wight Philip Lindsey Keyshawn von. Guys find yourself drafting any of these players and we're already at one hundred pick here. So we're getting to the late rounds. I'm not ready to draft Lindsey and Vaughn at this point. Now, yes some of these guys I have ranked. Probably far behind some of the guys we haven't mentioned yet. So you mentioned it already getting late round, but I don't think it's dragging. So talk very exciting group I guess Brita and how you want to give me a quick thought on the dolphins backfield. Yes. I don't mind those guys at all in the situation where I have drafted some upside running backs and what a week one early starter I expect breed and Howard both have their moments and I think like of route at the end of round eight start around nine. That's right about the spot they should go. So do you think though that if you're just hoping that they could be week one stars. Their first two games of the Patriots and the bills does that bother you? It's not great. Like I. Don't know how to account for the Patriots Defense Right now, right? Right. They are weak wanted in buffalo week to yeah I mean that's a good point. And Buffalo starling loaded lay their one of their really good run stopping beat tackles is. Also true. Okay, back to ADP. JK Dobbins. At one hundred and tenth overall followed by Daryl Henderson and seven. Coleman. Dave just spoke about pairing them with camakers and where he mustered Alexander Madison. Latavius Murray. You are with Madison. Murray you are an injury away from potentially a top five back. Henderson co-manager if there's anything you add there. What are you laughing at? I wasn't laughing I'm moved but I think they're really interesting One thing I think it's real interesting this year as some of the rookie situations like Jonathan Taylor. You know we talked about Mac just a minute ago. He's not super excited. We talked about top fifteen upside Taylor mistime. Taylor. Comes down go or or something MAC or vitals yeah. Would have thought fifteen upside oftens line in that schedule on all those things that said about Taylor could apply to Mac certainly. So are you some of these? Are you in a rush to get Mac if you get Taylor on draft? No I'm not but I because I'm I'm making a decision already on which way I want the back of the gopher. That offense for that that team nine drafted. But my point with those like the way, the ADT structure this year, some of those veterans are going a little bit later and he's mentioned their goods zero running back options the Lindsay's and whoever but I, also think like they're also handcuffs like if something Gordon Lindsay is GonNa play Andrea Swift Jerry on Johnson's GonNa play a lot more I. mean those guys are all. Pretty solid pets in that range you're gonNA eat viewpoints and they're going to essentially get you a lot. All right. So why don't we just finished with this? Who who are some? Players we haven't mentioned or Sunday that we have that you like to target at women named a single. Washington. Running back Tony Gibson for sure. Gibson. We we've we've batted around the idea how many catches he'll get on F T. this week. I think is upside is seventy receptions. I. Think he could be very involved part in the passing game for Washington not so much in the Russian game because he's inexperienced there. All right. It's. Three Cohen by the way in half PR is going one hundred and twenty four, th Ag- I. Don't buy that at all but you take them sooner. kind of by that yeah. People do not like Trico wants go the eighth round and full PPO so. It doesn't really surprise me that much that he's going that low and he's a good buy in this format to. All right. He went in the eighth round in the flex draft, which is half Pr. But. Feels too early I would say round ten and half. Pr Good for Tariq on. One. Hundred, twenty, four, th overall basically like around eleven. So she I take him and I I. I agree with where win the flex drift. Eighth Round. In. You mentioned Zach Moss yet he's too low on on this ADP that we're looking at. He should be up in that range what Marlin Max and Matt Breeders I think. We've forget anybody how about the chargers I still prefer Justin Jackson. I. One. More guy all throughout. That's I think my favorite late guy is Boston Scott. I like Scott I. Think he's got some decent standalone value because I think the Eagles coaching staff sees a lot of sproles and him. Yeah and obviously, if something were to happen to Mile Sanders than the the summer of not adding a running back with really benefit, you know who? Reminds me of a lot right now is also. Just like you was behind melting Gordon he's he's small. But he's big. He's apparently a workout warrior just sets ridiculous bench and Squat Records and he tested athletically very well he's not too dissimilar from Ecuador and I think he angle even though he's only like five eight handle a little bit more You got some work in receiving worker handle a little bit more early down work if something were to happen to standards I, think he could be explosive top ten upside on the subject of the chargers running backs we've we've. He thinks that Justin Jackson is the better one. I think Josh Kelly is the better one. Here's a scary thought for those of you that like Austin. What if both of them ended up getting five to six touches per week two key it's fine. Light on her. I. Was Hoping for there will be twenty five to thirty touches the chargers backfield every week every week. Okay. I would expect. Throw a few more names out at you. Tell me how much you like them Damien. Harris. Reich. Armstead. I've liked Harris a lot since his days at. Alabama. Wasn't that long ago and he was there and if Sony Michelle can't get healthy. Boom Batta here he comes as a part of the. Patriots run game. Great. Great Lakes around Flyer and if by week to he's not doing anything you cut them all stand for Ver- right? Well, because I think there are scenarios with Leonard for net where he is just not on the team by the end of this season I don't know if that's you know a disciplinary he's been disciplined by the team before I. Don't know if it's they trade him mid-season but I don't think Jacksonville. Like they might run into the ground but I don't think they're really fully committed to him. If their season go sideways early, it would not be surprising if they just decided that. Leanings a free agent, and he's not there the running back late in the year and they go forward with this this young guy requiem on status kind of their main back. Would it be? Aj. Dylan. Jamal Williams. I like I like lettuces Tom I do too and I think that the packers do as well. Mala floor probably, a lot of Derrick Henry in. Aj Dylan just like Ben Gretch saw a lot of Derrick Henry in AJ Dylan leading up to the draft and he could end up being a real pain in the butt for Aaron. Jones and Jamaal Williams the same trainer that Trans Ronald Jones Tranche all Williams two of them were together all offseason long in Arizona and apparently Jamal Williams has been running around and Catching passes trying to improve. So he can play slot receiver it's not necessarily the packers asked him to do. It's what he thinks. He needs to do any started sending clips of himself to Aaron Rodgers on instagram and Rogers text and said, stop sending me at this way text me directly and Aaron. Rodgers finally gave, Jamal Williams's phone number because he wants to see his progress I have is on the phone number. That's like Michael Jordan Steve Kerr staffy well, ever Scotty Burrell as the case may be I want to clarify I'm not saying Aj Dylan it's just when I'm looking at those late round running backs I that need one injury to have a huge success I'd really like to know that like they're the guy if some if air dry, it's hurt Jones gets hurt I think this is a committee still and maybe a worse committee. So I'd rather that's why I prefer guys like chase Edmunds who, I Worry who I think if if there get cert- there, clearly top fifteen running backs and let's be real if you draft. Aj Dylan or Jamal Williams for whatever reason, and it's week three and they haven't done anything and you need to pick somebody up off the waiver wire that's going to be the first name you turn to and cut so I. Totally get where you're coming from on that. Maybe you'd rather spend the earlier pick on a better insurance policy running back like chase edmunds. Yeah. I WanNa make final thought about just the the late on running backs. All, sit out. The show I think the difference between these guys is related to what they're upside could possibly be and he just made the point really well, but like I just made the case for all right, we'll armstead. I think he's basically the guy that would become the got will if length for net for whatever reason wasn't starter, but we can. We can quibble a little bit about what we think they're gonNA be going into the season, but there's so much every year in an NFL season so much churn at the running back position, and particularly this is going to be turned every position right? We Really WanNA qualify those one percent or two percent outcomes. I think that's how you WANNA targeting late round guys and he makes a good point. Dylan's extremely good. But he might not get all the work think about that. When you're choosing between these guys, do you think this guy could be a legit star? Is something braces what? And my thought was Latavius Murray and two games without Alvin Kamara. Had Thirty or more touches in both games and had thirty one or more PTR fantasy points. Both Games he was insane. That is it for running backs. All right on tomorrow's show Wednesday show. We're going to talk futures ever gonNA retire emails at Fantasy football CBS, dot com, the apple podcast questions we'll get to those. 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Live Mock Draft (Listeners Only)! (09/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Live Mock Draft (Listeners Only)! (09/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie Heath Ben. They say if you want to have a good podcast, you should ruthlessly judge all of your listeners. So that's what we're GONNA do today we have twelve listeners competing right now in a mock draft and we're just kind of sit there and observe, and also bench shrager going to spread his wings today and analyze the draft along with Heath Cummings Ben Great, work on the draft on yesterday you made the engine go we appreciate it and welcome welcome to the show in the analysts share. Back Yeah no great job last night you Adam four hours of hosting couldn't poff Scott Hanson though you had to go to the bathroom at some point. Bathroom I'm convinced. nope not at all. We are, we actually have pick six right now in this draft, I have a CO owner who did not show up it seems so it looks like I'm just going to make a draft pick here. But he hello, how are you? Yeah I am. I'm here and excited about it. Okay. Good good. We're all a little exhausted the picture coming in and just GonNa go through the news and notes here I'll give you the first five picks of the draft so far it's Christian McCaffrey saquon Barkley Ezekiel Elliott. Dalvin Cook and Alvin Kamara. I have the draft on pause will resume it in just a minute but. This is a three receiver league. And Affleck's so actually it's the to receiver league my bad. So two receivers and Affleck's and it's full PBR. So we'll see how running back heavy people go at the back end of the first round heath. Let's talk about letter for real quick because since we did the emergency pie this morning David I. Bruce Arians spoke he said Ronald. Jones is still our guy obviously. We can't take him at his word but what what did you make of Bruce Arians comments and where are you on the bucks backfield right now I, take him at his word for week one I would expect Ronald Jones is going to start against the saints and I think it'd be really interesting after that because he's probably not going to do very well against the saints because they have a very good run defense. I'm still in the camp that for net is a high end number three running back. I've got him at rb twenty, five or twenty, six right in that range and Ronald Jones a border line number three, high number four we're doing a non PPO mock draft right now Dave Richard took four net with the fourth pick of the sixth round and four net was my top running back in my rankings when he took him. So I think that was a fair place to do that Ronald Jones. Has He been picked yet? Yeah, he went. Later in the eighth so. I think that's probably what you'll see. Those guys settle in. You can't start either a Tampa Bay running back we one. Well, well, I might have to in our fourteen team league everything changes in a fourteen team league I suppose. But that's Ronald Jones and he he's GonNa start who knows what for nets role is you know what? We'll see what the reports are leading up to week. Well, we're not to make the decision right now. And said that they hope they hope to have four and a role week one. So I think like best case scenario for Ronald. Jones is that week one he's doing what he did last year and Leonard Fournette is Peyton Barbara. Yeah which mean work. But. We'll see how it plays out. Meanwhile, the Seahawks signed Josh Gordon Give me your take on that, and then we'll. We'll look at some of these draft picks. Probably not going to draft Josh Gordon. But in the in a twenty round draft or eighteen round draft I get it. It gives me a little bit more concern for decay metcalf, but I was never getting decay metcalf. So I'm not that concerned I'm more concerned for you I. I. Don't know like Josh Gordon didn't do anything for them. Last year he played five games. He had almost no role. He's a guy I was wondering does it does it affect tyler? Lockett. More than Decay Metcalfe's and scored in his no even. Like Tyler Lockett runs the full route treat higher lock, it plays in the slot tighter target underneath Andy. I I don't know. Okay. I was just asking just asking and is Josh Gordon even reinstated yet not yet not yet no. Still has to happen. All right. So here we go. We're looking at this mock draft right now and we've got let's go through the first round again too wide receivers and a flex, and it's full Pr. Christian McCaffrey saquon Barkley Ezekiel Elliott Dalvin Cook Alvin Kamara Clyde Edwards Michael Thomas Lamar. Jackson. Davante Adams Julio. Jones Derrick Henry. Austin Exeter. So we're I think we're just GonNa Kinda look at these teams as they go. And Lamar Jackson pick was an auto pick. Yeah. It's okay. We're going to keep it as he seems keep making their picks. We'll look at the team so that the twelfth team Adams bad takes great team name. Austin Mile Sanders. Their first two picks. What do we think? It's a very good start. If they had seen Joe Mixing Soul on the board and taking him instead of Sanders I would've been all about it you. Start at the turn Joe Josh. Jacobs. Just went. All right. So we had Davante Adams Julio Jones Michael Thomas the Mar- Jackson all go in round one. This Team Eleven Derrick Henry in round one travis Kelsey in round two. So that would be jd 'em team eleven here with Derrick Henry and Travis Kelsey it's an excellent start. Josh. Jacobs was so Josh Year Pick Ten when Julio Jones in round one and Josh Jacobs around to. What's wrong with that? Like tyrod still on the board you have. Wreaked but it's debatable into receivers. There are you to receive rather had one of the running backs who went after Julio and then get tired co when it comes back. Okay and then. The Guy with the Ninth Pick Josh's football team. Has Davante Adams around one and now Nick Saban around two. Excellent I like it a lot. So who else but you'll mixing still there. So. But Heath tyreek Hill is still on the board. So why do you like that pick when when? He obviously wanted to have a running back. It's a too wide receiver league. I was saying that tyreek Hill thing in response to Julio Jones stick was a question. But like it's a too wide receiver league I don't there's anything wrong with taking over tyreek. All right. So now on the clock is carry on swiftly to the Golladay, which is a good team name, but unfortunately, this manager did not. Show up yet. So he has Lamar Jackson around one I'M GONNA pick for him I think it's time to take Joe Mixon and round to. Joe Mixing going fairly late that was seventeenth overall I. Hear that I haven't rank our belief but yes, later normally goes right exactly. All right. So nothing really stands out except for the Lamar Jackson pick, which is probably an auto pick Kenyan drake now. So that would be the team that with Michael Thomas. Now is Michael Thomas in Kenyan drake. Nothing out of the ordinary so far. This, this is the six pick in the draft. This is supposed to be a guy named Don, but don didn't show up. So I'm drafting for this team as well. I took ever around one and now it is time to take tyreek hill the best running backs available just so everybody knows. Aaron Jones James Connor. Yeah I like them but Tyreek Hill has to be the pick right. Yeah that you said nothing out of the ordinary. That's certainly out of the ordinary that he's available at pick nineteen. Yeah and full Pr League for sure. All Right Ben. So right now, Kevin is on the clock. cheapies picks in round one he took. Alvin. Kamara in round two. We just took George Kill. What do you think about that? Would've gone Aaron Jones there. I am so confident in the late round tight ends this year that I don't WanNa take kiddle mid round two I know heath disagrees a lot of the guys here disagree. But I would have gone Aaron Jones lock into really high end running backs like when you say confident in the low. Tight ends your confident they're going because like when you drop from kittle to even Evan Ingram Hayden hearst. You're probably giving up what three or four fantasy points a game five fantasy points a game. So you're. Confident in those guys getting within five points of kill finishing within the top a top six being within four points and I don't know how. I feel about running backs. In rounds five through seven outside of Mark Ingram. So I'd rather wait on the tight end. They're pretty messy and this is a PR league. So that's not good for for Ingram but I know Ingram's your guy. Yeah. The running backs around five or seven or just. They're just messy. We'll get to them for sure the next two picks after kittle next three picture, wide receivers, Chris Goblin, Andre Hopkins and Dj more, and now we're waiting for the first for bills Mafia Jason Book to make his Pixie to Christian McCaffrey and our at the turn. Let me see who's got running back. Back. Adams. Bad. Takes with the twelfth pick had. And Sanders, that is the only team to start running back running back. Let's see what Let's see what bills Mafia Jason Book does here. Yeah. We usually see. Jones in the second round at least now hypothetical here you have McCaffrey, what if you go remember this is two receivers only and you start a flexing his PTR. What if you McCaffrey Jones? Connor. I went. Barclay. Connor Carson and you absolutely hated it. So I'm not sure. It was that three receiver league though I. Was Yeah. This makes a big difference here So he went with Cooper, Cup with pick twenty four. So through the first two rounds, only one team went running back running back and that was the team that had the twelfth pick I. think that's pretty interesting. It's unusual for sure. Yeah. All right. So Aaron Jones and James Connor still around at the beginning of the third round as we wait who Jason, book is milk in the clock he is taken. All this time here. All right. That's all right. You can think about it. You've got cooper thing about mahomes right here. Good call who do you think is going to take I think he's GonNa Take Aaron Jones. I'll say James Connor who was Aaron Jones Aaron Joe? What do I would? Snickers Guide that allows snickers yesterday three snickers during what was your total three three how snickers talking trash you on twitter what do they thought? They were dig me. They were said, looks like you need a twitter Nita stickers but you've already had one. Okay Yeah. That wasn't it. So it wasn't it. The second team, the Saquon Barkley team just took Mike Evans that gives him. That's the SOMBREROS Saquon Barkley Dj more and Mike Evans. The third pick is the Ezekiel Elliott team Ezekiel Elliott. Let's ask Selah VISCO baby. Oh. He's using your team name. Outstanding. Ezekiel Elliott De'andre Hopkins in Kenny. Golladay. The Dalvin Cook Team Chipotle Labra just took Davin Cook, Chris Godwin and James Connor. I really liked that start. Yeah You say. Feel confident in Connor, kind of in that group of the potentially running backs or not. It's not the super elites, but the you know the workload will be there I'm a little scared with the injuries but everything, we haven't seen a lot in training camp from anyone but all of the reports have been that it's James. Connors backfield until he gets hurt. He this is the camera team cheapies, picks Alvin, Kamara, George biddle who did return to practice by the way. Mile Sanders is now listed as to day instead of week to week. That's a good thing Alvin Kamara George Kato and Alan Robinson our top player available okay. Allen Robinson wide receivers, available or Ridley Juju Phelan Beckham lock it woods, maclaurin the running backs available. You know it's Chris. Carson's the best one that it's girly Gordon Taylor behl etcetera. My team is on the clock. Now wasn't supposed to be my team, but I have to chiefs about that Clyde Edwards dealer and tyreek. Hill. you might. would be foolish, to, not brain. Yes you're right. Was Love It I. Love It. That's great. Pick it out of the six spot I don't know how realistic it's not realistic Clyde ever tyreek Hill Pasha. Well, I love that start. That's terrific. Well, it's possible in our drafts and it just happened in one of our a draft that wasn't our draft. So possible that is so fun. People are commenting the chief stack how how cognizant cognizant of other people's teams when you're drafting I've sort of tunnel vision. I'm really just focusing on my team and like the teams that are right next to me basically. For me, it depends where I am if I'm in the middle of the round, it's very tough for me to see what other people are doing and care about it because I don't have much of a choice strategy. But if I'm towards the end of either around I am studying up on all the picks, the guys around me or making. Okay let's see what else is going on here in this draft and then ban you can. You can promote some things you always is telling me what to promote I'll let you promote. After my Mahomes, pick. Where are the latest results my apologies MAHOMES AJ Brown goes? To Eight. I don't know what your team name is Bro. But let's see what he's got so far Francis has. Kenya Michael Thomas Kenyan Drake, and Aj Brown. Something interests something interesting about that team. What do you think about that? Michael Thomas, AJ, Brown, and Kenyan Drake. It's a little early for me for Brown especially in full Pr. But there's upside on that team for sure. All right. So now I'm drafting for the team that has Lamar Jackson and Joe Mixon I. Think we're going to go with. With Juju. Smith. Schuster here. Not, Chris Karsan. Three rounds and PR league without a wide receiver. I don't think. I really liked Juju also. Going to sort by heath's rankings that makes the most sense on the show. The Mark Jackson Joe Mixon Judas misuse is even more surprising that Patrick Mahomes fell in the middle of the third round. With Mark Jackson going in the first round. So that means. They were there were five teams in round three that could have taken mahomes and didn't have a choice of taking Jackson you know and and he fell. Kevin really off the board now. So let's take a look at the Calvin really team. That's Joshes Football Team Josh's football team so far picking ninth. devante Adams Nick Chubb Calvin Really That's Maybe my favorite team. Really. Know. Your favorite team is my team. Mahomes, the homes. Dealer tyreek Hill but it's Europe but it's your team. Robert Woods Robert Woods going thirty fourth overall. Too. Soon. It's well like I said this stay on HQ. The separation between NPR between wide receiver seven and wide receiver eighteen is almost nothing every once in a while like it happened with Juju, were. Quite, a few reports about how Klay Pool was doing well in Washington doing well and e bronze really developed chemistry, and so I dropped t jus target share by one percent. and He fell from wide receiver eight wide receiver eighteen get out of here. So that is like that's how close they all are. So I wouldn't argue that if you take a wide receiver that's in my top eighteen as a top twelve wide receiver, I'm not really gonNA argue with you. Fair enough. Did you move down to eighteen or did you just leave it not all the way to eighteen because I didn't want to put him behind Beckham I didn't WanNa put him behind feeling but he's he did I did drop him. Yeah. Okay so taking a look at round three here, it was Aaron Jones, Mike Evans Kenny, golladay James Connor Allen Robinson Patrick mahomes Aj Brown Juju. Smith Schuster Calvin Really Robert Woods Tyler Lockett Adam Phelan there really hasn't been any bad picks except Lamar Jackson around one, which we think is too early, but that was an auto pick. So let's this grade. These teams threw three picks. Let's start with. The first pick bills. Mafia. They have. Christian McCaffrey Aaron Jones, and Cooper Cup. That's Minus. Minus. All right. Let's go to the. With, the second pick saquon Barkley. Mike Evans and DJ more. A. Osterloh viscous baby Ezekiel Elliott Golladay Andre Hopkins. See. This one what's wrong with this team would have our listeners need to know well, full PR I. Don't think can go at as should go in front of all the wide receivers that went round three okay and then also I don't like De'andre Hopkins all that much. Okay. All right. So it wasn't a strategy thing. It was just the players not not. He's doesn't like them quite as much. The DALVIN cooked team pick four. This is Jake Hank and Meyer Chipotle Abra Dalvin Cook James Conner and Chris Scott Well Davin. Cook Chris Godwin James. Connor. Who Yeah like this one? This is a good one. Hey. Plus Yeah we'll go. All right and then the Alvin Kamara team picking fifth cheapies picks Kamera kiddle Alan Robinson. US. Plus. Then, the six pick which I'm picking for Don Pasha are Clyde. tyreek Hill Patrick Mahomes, a+ a really. If. I. Was Fair- fairly grading that team. I would probably give it a B minus really. because. You took quite Edwards Allaire earlier like who did you take lighter ahead of Michael Thomas. Yeah Right. If you convinced he's the number six running back thin I could understand. Their right. There's no real reason to think that though is my point. Why you really don't think. So I'm going to resume the draft here. These I'm not saying that he can't be top five running back. I'm just saying like. The idea of like, yeah he's he's definitely better than all of these running backs that we're top ten running backs last year. Well, we're talking about. I say, definitely. I can't say definitely, but I think he has a stronger I personally think he has quite a Brazil has a stronger case than anyone else I probably you know Mile Sanders would be what do you think this is my question I've been waiting to do this a little bit so it's good to do it with just you. What do you think? What are you expecting in terms of quite Edwards dealers such as? Seventeen game at least with with like four of them being catches. So now, maybe more eighteen, eighteen, nineteen, a game. that. Yeah. Not One not in week one, right. That that would be a ton. What do you expect for? Like Alvin Kamara in? Austin equity touches like not that. Many, right. You think he's more of a feature back than they are. Carries I would think you would get more. I think I think pretty similar to Chimera what is Kamara? He's like he's A. Guy. Every year seven hundred homes has not targeted his running backs like that because he throws downfield like two hundred carries. Maybe pace last year I. Don't know that he's ever actually had two hundred carries in a season I don't know I'm thinking thirteen carries four catches. You don't think. That's too much. That I do not think that is a fair expectation for a running back of his size on a team like the chiefs that's going to be very past heavy that generally throws downfield. But it's possible. I just. That seems more like an upside to me. than an expectation. Okay. Let's go to around three here Todd Gurley Terry maclaurin Levy Bell on Bell. Round four at around four Romford still thirty nine, th overall Levian Bell. Fortieth overall Keenan. Allen? Are these. girly maclaurin Bell and Allen. Their picks that nobody else wants to make but I don't know that they're necessarily bad picks. And Hallway took levy on bell six spots earlier than this an hour draft and that was the league where you start three wide receivers right and he knows what he's doing so. Auto pick got back that one out. Sorry about that. Okay. So I'm picking for this manager here. This is the team that has Lamar. Jackson Joe Mixing and Juju. Smith Schuster we are on the clock with the fifth pick of round four. All right I think Chris Carson has lasted long enough that good. That makes the levy on pick a bad pick the vector Chris Carson was available but who else is and look at all of these wide receivers Cooper Beckham, you set it up throwing start two of them like they're going to have good wide receivers available three rounds from now. So you're you're saying Levy on bell thirty ninth overalls a good pick I'm not saying it's a good pick I'm saying it's not a mock worthy pick. I'm not taking him now until round five but there are a variety of ways he could justify a fourth-round ADP. Are there any chiefs I can take for this team mahomes? Clyde. Ever see last Tyreek Hill. would be reach right wait until the double digit rounds at this point. Yeah. Think. So well, can I could take Korea on he used to be achieved. Strew. Take Melvin Gordon for this team Melvin. Gets the pick here around five around four pursues me all right around four. So far is girly maclaurin Levy on Keenan Allen Chris Carson Mark Andrews and Melvin Gordon So let's see what the team that just took Mark Andrews is looking like right now that would be Kenyan drake running back Michael Thomas, Aj Brown, and Mark Andrews a wide receiver. The guy like spinach. I think so I think. So this is Francis Roth who's very light on running back. Any takeaways from you shocker. On. That team on any, really my my biggest segue right now is the Keenan Allen pick I know we're really down on Amari Cooper. But if Amari Cooper has his six by games that he has every year I, think he's a better value than Keenan Allen. You shouldn't be a topsoil receiver, but I don't think you should take Keenan Allen over him where we nothing about that chargers offense and Allen has not been a stud. See if you can. Find Keenan Allen's I could probably do it. Wait be Allen has been a stud. In Past. Three years last year with the top eight wide receiver in this. was a bad year for wide receiver. He really didn't have that. Great. But he. Catch. Beer but you know but like you know there's a caveat to that they're gonNA throw a lot fewer passes this year and I think it's going to be over s like, yes they are probably going to throw. Few passes this year I think there's a an overstatement. Certain. We are that the number of passes to ride Taylor through in Buffalo is directly correlated the number of passes he's going to throw for the chargers. We then think they're going to run a ton with Ecuador and the other two. That's what everyone else seems to think I am very uncertain of that I. Think it's a combination of what has this team done and the coaching staff, and then what has to Taylor done and seems like more are just leaning all the way towards Taylor's career while also saying that he's not very good and if he loses the dog to Justin Herbert, you're probably seeing the Philip Rivers chargers offense. With the worst quarterback might expect devers was terrible less not expecting just in Herbert to throw he threw for like forty five. How many yards it film rivers throw for last year Justin Herbert is not going to be on that pace I. I feel very confident in that I know rivers was bad and he threw a lot of interceptions but he still actually through for a ton of yards last you're. Right consulting for me he attempted a ton of passes last year. So I assume that he did go well over four thousand yards. Yes. All right. More pixie around four after Mark Andrews Melvin Gordon Jonathan Taylor Amari Cooper Odell Beckham we're coming to the end of round four two picks left anything really stand out there waiting about Jonathan Taylor forty, four th over tyler. Boyd. I've never seen tyler boyd go forty-seven overall. Wow, that was a mistake. Yeah Jonathan Taylor. There is fine all the running backs now have upside. But there's not too much certainty I like David Johnson over him David Johnson, still on the board animal I totally see the risk of David Johnson. David. Johnson just went. Forty eighth. Taylor Johnson. Johnson. Yeah. Pretty. Pretty easily okay. Oh Damn was hoping tyler would make it back to be nice. Pick says Josh M were picked us. Josh have Josh has. So here's the thing, right? Josh. Has the tenth pick I think. And the guy who had the second pick had two picks before Josh. So Matt the some Barrows took Tyler Boyd. Todd forty-seven. If you really wanted him, you had to take him around five. Now around four there's almost no chance that bills mafia, who has the number one pick and picks forty, eight, forty, nine was taking tyler boy it would have been very surprising. So don't take forty seven, Take Him v I mostly agree with you. But my biggest regret always is when I take that mindset and someone else takes the player i. What happened in podcast league? But I really don't think. Yeah I mean this is a random league with random podcast listeners. They have no idea anything about each other's likes. But Tyler Board is so much lower in the rankings that was the thing. That's who he takes. Now, he took Michael Gallup here. the last two picks after Boyd were David Johnson Portland Sutton. So we got five picks for a couple of teams. So let's take a look at their teams. The McCaffrey team bills Mafia is McCaffrey Jones David Johnson at flex. Sutton Cooper Cup. I don't know why I don't really know I do like this team I don't love it, but I like it. Sutton and carpet wide receiver. Aaron Jones McCaffrey. David Johnson. Though thoughts comments. I did not hear the question mark at the end of that. Conversation are Ryder, stand I. I UNDERSTAND All. Right. So let's see this umbrellas with the second pick. They've made five pick so far. As Zach Ertz and t y Hilton come off the board take a look at this umbrellas team Saquon Barkley around one. He's the only running back so far oh man what interesting picks I don't like this so I don't I don't think this is a good strategy remember to only have to start to receivers. He's got saquon Barkley and four wide receiver so far. So he's probably going to have to hammer running back at some point Barkley Dj more Mike Evans, Michael Gallup, and Tyler Boyd. GonNa make pick if anybody wants to. Ben. Why don't you take a look at Osceola viscous baby who had the third pick because Yukio Elliott and has made five picks. Made Five pick so far. Ask visco baby he has Zeke Elliott. Kenny holiday de'andre. Zach Ertz Odell Beckham Junior Seau. Zeke. Three wide receivers and tight end. I don't take the strategy I. He's got a good tight end. I don't like the actual players that he selected like almost universally. So if you had taken your top three wide receivers in those positions with Zeke and Zach Ertz. Would you be cool with this draft? Well, let's see what he had available to him. Let me just recap in case you forgot. So He Zeke Hopkins Golladay Becca when he took Hopkins. Cop guns he could have had dj more. So let's say Zeke DJ more. And then when he took Golladay, he could have had Allen Robinson, her Calvin Ridley who had prefer. So. Zeke. Dj. More Calvin Ridley. Zach Ertz. And then when he took Beckham, he could have had Portland Sutton I'd probably take. Belgium. So yeah if you told me, that was the team more Ridley and Beck Beckham. And Erz tight end and Zeke running back I would like that a lot. I think a lot of people would prefer Hopkins and Golladay to more and rid the. Yeah I. Think you're right. Yup, band who would you rather have hopkins and? Ridley. Hopkins and Galata it's tougher. NPR's Lucian. no-brainer. But I would rather have those I. Love the upside of teeth guys and I totally understand why he loves them but a lot of it is upside. Yeah. Well I would rather have golladay in non-ppp. Than If, this PR would love Rick. I think Hopkins might actually get worse than. Non. Pr. No I don't know that the volume I. Think we're relying on him to get that yards per target up to where it was when he was a lot better two years ago I don't know that the volumes going to be there. So I don't know how to differentiate the guy. non-pwi are just DJ more. I. Like a lot more NPR. All right. Let's we're GONNA. Pause draft after six rounds and going to recap some of the teams. Let's do the teams that picked in the back end here. So Adams bad takes will start with adams bed takes best team name so far this was the twelfth pick and obviously thirteen as well. Mile Sanders. Austin. Adam Feeling Stefan Digs we just took sixtieth overall and Todd Gurley at Flex Miles Sanders Austin out of the Stefan Digs Todd Gurley. Totally, cool. With all those picks I think only two quarterbacks off the board so far. To this is a podcast league draft I've ever seen one. All right. Let's see. Jd Team picking out of the eleven spot. Justin. Derrick Henry to eleven NPR PR PR but doesn't usually get that far Henry Kareem Hunt at running back rb to you if you loaded elsewhere. Kelsey. At tight end Tyler Lockett and maclaurin. Excellent. Henry Hunt Lock it maclaurin Kelsey. I like it so far so good Let's see Josh. Josh our time. Josh, Jacobs Levy on Bell this was the tenth pick yet. He took Julio Jones in round one and Josh Jacobs around to Jacobson Bell Julio in Robert Woods and Mark Brown at Flex. I'm feeling like see here. Feels, okay right. Just. Okay. All right, let's see the team with the Ninth Pick Joshes football team. Nick Chub and Tariq Cohen. Davante Adams Calvin Ridley and Keenan Allen. Nick trump three Cohen Davante Adams Calvin Keenan. Allen. Good flexing. Very Good It's fine. I guess but Cohen like Rick, Owens's rb to like you have an elite number, one wide receiver I think we'd all agree on that about Adams an elite number two I'd receiver we all expect. We all hope. Yeah. But he was a solid number two last year. So either way. An elite flex I would expect unless we think he's going from wide receiver one to not good at flex but but. You comparing like Todd Gurley as Affleck's who are the other flexes sleek? Todd Gurley. David Johnson Beckham Odell Beckham T Y Hilton. Marquees Brown camakers. Yeah. It's fine in that group. Sure. I wouldn't call them elite compared to that group but find I just think he disagrees with this but I think he has to flexes starting right now. I. Don't know that we can call to re Cohen in rb two. When David Montgomery is probably going to be back in two weeks right? He's a low end or to inflex one of the two. But when you have argued a second best, why? Like when you're really really good at a couple of spots, you're gonNA have one or two spots where you're not great through fix. Their six picks, five picks. I wouldn't be happy with this team nick, Chubb Rico and Davante Adams Calvin really and Keenan Allen. You would be happy with that. You don't like Keenan, Allen or to Rico, and so I gotTa Rico around too early. Yeah. That's the thing. I don't like those two players that I do. That's the main thing I like to Rico and I just think he's kind of a low upside play but to recall when is a great rb to if you are stacked everywhere and you've just fell in its Rico and he's your rb to. But this I don't think that's the case here. So, Kareem Hunt went two picks later. Does that change your view at all them? If he had gone Kareem Hunt instead of calling that'd be much better. Yeah. I think so much much more upside. That's for sure. ALL RIGHT WE PROBABLY SAFE RESULTS BUT The theoretical upside is there with The injury upside. All right we are resuming the draft devante Parker sixty first overall will fuller sixty second overall. Ben Do. You think that's too soon I know he thinks that's too soon for fuller for full around fine with it I think it's too soon for Parker. So. You're taking precedence Williams over wooller. No No. Oh. So then maybe it wasn't that soon for four. Did I miss? No. I think it probably was I wouldn't take Preston Williams here because I wouldn't have to. But I would take next I'm probably but he's your second highest ranked run it wide receiver left correct. Aj. Green. So I guess you just don't like the wide receivers right now right? Okay. I'm usually taking my second running back in this route. is by Leonard Fournette his highest rank running back. It is time for the quarterbacks Dak Wilson. Watson. Cuyler start coming off the board here they should all be gone. We're in round six where he most there was just picked Darren Waller was just picked I gotTa make pick here for the team that has. Really feel like mahomes is not feeling as good when those guys come back around six. That's a thing that may happen to you. You know what I felt that way. Every single draft because every single draft, there's always great quarterback value. So I think if you take mahomes or Jackson in round two or three or whatever. You just have to accept the fact that there's great quarterback value later and you have to live with it and you have to say these guys still have the potential be so much better than everyone else. But imagine if you've not taken him in round three but you used your first or second round pick on one of those guys, and then you had seen all these great quarterbacks that's why we tell people not to do it. Right. de'andre Swiss goes after Dave. I took David Montgomery for the Lamar Jackson team. Yeah. There are just a lot of running backs. Still, available, it seems like when you said Preston Williams your number one wide. Receiver left there were just a lot of running backs and quarterbacks needed to be drafted, and probably like we are getting into I, guess Waller's gone but. Henry her still still there as well. Yeah well, I'm on the clock with this mahomes Edwards tyreek Hill team that also has Melvin Gordon and Decay Metcalf I've got Evan Ingram in my queue don't love the running backs here best wide receiver available Aj Green Yeah I'm going to Ingraham and that's the thing you've heard me say with Jamie at the greater late tight end thing I don't usually get an ingram but. Considering already have a quarterback, this would normally be a quarterback around for me. Round six I love getting quarterbacks through six in round six since I already had homes Shirley. Also I'll go tight end there. So I took Evan. Ingram. So now that's mahomes Edwards eland Melvin Gordon tyreek Hill Decay Kevin Ingram. Jarvis Landry off the board. We are pick sixty, nine overall I just that was random pick that number bill rewind for a second because I may have said something wrong. I you said, I know he thinks this is too early for Willfuller. Binge shrager said I'm okay with fuller here but it was too high for Parker and you said so heath you like press your drafting Preston Williams ahead of devante Parker. Ahead of Willfuller. The answer that is yes. Okay And you're drafting Williams Williams have Parker I'm just waiting until Parker's taken and then I'll take Williams. I. Don't think anyone else is anywhere close to that yet. So. Julian Ataman Ninth, overall. I just joined on. So interestingly, I've been talking about this, he went ninety second in our podcast league draft he went sixty nine the're both PR. Leagues? Both two receivers when I, think he's hurt a lot by two was wide receiver league, Mike My Perception of him. Is like. Is He gonNa be a top twenty guy is that is upside. Why don't we take a look at the team that took Julia that'll it and see what role he's playing. That is his fourth wide receiver. So. He has no tight end or quarterback Dalvin Cook James Caan this is the team we love Davin cooked James Connor. We loved it threw three picks Chris Godwin Amari Cooper. T Y Hilton Juliet. OMON. Man It was like that. That's where you sees a chance to be great. and Go Dak Prescott right there but he He you know what you're right. This is a great time to take a quarterback instead Julian Elwin, but to pull Abra is going to get one of those next four quarterbacks with his next pick if he wants them. Up In four picks and we still don't have any of those quarterbacks gone. The Andrea Swift Editing Jarvis Landry, Julian Cattleman, JK Dobbins Leonard Fournette. All Right Leonard Fournette went seventy first overall. About right. Then what do you think? I'm cool them there. I'm cool with him earlier in round six I think the sky's the limit. And upside is better than any other running back in that range other than Kareem Hunt. In round six, you're not expecting for net to be your rb two week one, but he could be a stud with Tom Brady. We just don't know much. Okay. So saquon. Barkley. Team took for net. That was the same barrows. Let's take a look at that team and see what kind of role for an is playing. Oh, that's as rb to. saquon Barkley and Leonard Fournette Dj more Mike Evans, Tyler Boyd Michael Gallup still no quarterback still no tau end but he's back on the clock after four net bills. Mafia took single Terry and AJ. Green. All right. sombreros comes with Dak Prescott. So there we go. Seventy fourth, overall the third quarterback off the board. Should start a run. Yes. Okay Dak Prescott saquon Barkley Leonard Fournette. Dj. More. Mike. Evans Tyler. Boyd Flex Michael Gallup on the bench. To Swap Gallup and buoyed, get gallon your flex and I love your team. But he's going to have to take more running back because you're not starting winter for net week one. So he'll take more. Marlin MAC or carry on week one. Could will be interesting to see if they make it back. I think Carrie Johnson is the bears right? Yeah I don't know like they've had some. They've lost some pieces. The bears defense is a mystery lost Goldman he opted out. They do have. Some Hicks back who missed a lot of time last year. Let's see. So Dak Prescott goes now James White to also viscous baby. This got Hunter Henry. Go to Poland brought you had you could've taken cuyler Murray. You took Hunter Henry instead if you don't like Hayden hearst I, kind of understand that because that's the end of a tier if you don't like her. Yeah that's true. WHO's the next best tight end its hearst than who else like the Gronk higby well, people like Higby Higby Gronk yeah. Hey Teeth, are you moving Zach Moss ahead of Devon Single Terry. I'm not ready to do that yet. I don't know like jd is. because. Because there was a report just just came out from the athletic that if Devon singles area continues to fumble in the regular season, he could lose his. Zach Moss could take over as the primary running back. Yeah. I. I guess that's a possibility that happens with a lot of backfield's. If you continue to fumble, you could lose your job. Well, look I'm on the clock right now with seventy eighth pick I've got a team with basically starting lineup. I've got two running backs, two receivers, a tight end and a quarterback. So I need a flex. So I'm basically just looking best player available here. The best wide receivers or crowder Marvin Jones Brandin Cooks Preston Williams I'm just not feeling that the best running backs the dolphins guys Kerryon Johnson Marlin Mac. Philip Lindsey. I think Ronald Jones Zach Moss. GonNa Take Moss here. Yeah, he's lower in your rankings sith Seventy Eighth I. Got Him. Yeah I would have probably taken carry on there but I think Zach Maas is a fine choice as well. I just like the whole thing with the buffalo situation is. A chance without an injury that Zach Moss is going to become a feature back in Buffalo. I don't really think so and if that's not going to happen I'm not sure that buffalo situation is good enough to produce starting running backs consistently. A committee. Is there any running back though here that? That does fit that description because I carry on Johnson for the other team drafting for Antonio. Gibson. Went in between Zach Moss and Kerryon Johnson, then Philip Lindsey wet but every running back on the board is in that situation none of them are featured back without an injury I don't think. Maybe armstead. Yeah. I mean I think there's a pretty good chance that carry on Zafir back to start the year because there is an injury. To start the year. But how long does that last and does that even matter I'm not sure I'm starting him week one against the pairs. Right. I mean if I had gone that route, let me see the team that I took Kerryon Johnson with. I have mixed in in Carson there and I. Well, I could start them David, Montgomery and Kerryon Johnson. So. Montgomery's not going to be in play. Yeah. I could start him as a flex. By the way then. Starting to get more interested in Montgomery as he as he plummets on in draft boards. I was pretty interested in it beforehand, but I like it a lot in round seven. If he's there in round eight even better. The guys are getting the same rounds are not like, Hey, three weeks from now you're going to get fifteen plus touches. A David Montgomery was never going to be a full workload stud, but he can actually get some work three weeks from now and be good. Are you buying any of this Cordell Patterson hype? Heath. I THINK HE'LL BE A. Ten to twelve carries until gummer's back. Let's take a look around seven this twelve team league wide receivers two running backs in a flex Aj Green Dak Prescott. James. White Hunter Henry. Cuyler. Murray Zach Moss Antonio. Gibson Kerryon Johnson. Phillip. Lindsey Marvin Jones Matt. Brita. Jamison crowder. Does. Antonio. Gibson belong that high that would be seventy ninth overall. I don't think. So I think it's too hard. What about Matt Brita Eighty third overall. Okay. That's not too bad. Marlin maxine one on the board that I would take over him more than Max Seville. Wow. Ronald Jones Heath would you prefer Ronald Jones over the dolphins guys at this point No, I would take the dolphins guys. North of them. Okay. Round eight. To. Shawn. Watson. Russell. Wilson. Chris Thompson Latavius Murray's so far. So now I mean we're the eighty eighth pick is it now time to start taking these? Lottery ticket handcuffs latavius Murray's chase Edmunds. Some of them will have some value but but you know you're really just hoping for injuries here. Yeah. I just think this is more likely to happen in a league with two wide receivers because guys get four riders in their team they're like, well, what am I ever going to use a fifth wide receiver and so we're going to draft eleven hundred running backs for the rest of the draft. Ronald Jones for this team that they have David Montgomery and therefore running back. So this is a team that Ping right now that has Jackson Joe Mix and Chris Carson. Juju Smith Schuster HR David Montgomery and Kerryon Johnson student like the wide receiver value here I would take a Hayden nurse. Okay. That's a good idea. It hurts is do you realize that the next three tight ends in your rankings? ooh. In fact, Hunter Henry was before that. So you go Henry Hurst higby hooper. Important thing to notice for ages. Howard. OJ Howard next. Oh, by the way. Greg. Allman of the athletic said that he's not even sure Rob Gronkowski is going to lead tight end catches. He did think he'll lead them in touchdowns but like I don't think Rob Gronkowski as a full-time player he's not a top twelve for me. Josh Allen just went. So that stop six quarterbacks off the Board Josh Allen Number Seven pick ninety overall. You think he should have waited another round or maybe I should've gone around before then and drafted either Watson Wilson. With. That is true but soon, you couldn't do that. Is that too early for Josh Allen Ninetieth. I don't think it's fine. I have him on tear of his own it's in round eight. So that's fine. All right. So let for I think went seventy ninth. That right? No no no he must have gone seventy I I I think seventy first. Ronald Jones went i. I Don Jones Ninety I. got like half around later that I have for net and maybe half round earlier that I Jones but that's right in the right place. Okay. Some of the picture in round eight. Russell Wilson. Chris, Thompson has that pick Chris. Thompson. Really really bad. Pr Leak. I just like there is a possibility that Chris Thompson will give you a month of low end RB TO PC production before he gets, hurt. But other than the injury concern yeah. Is there an expectation that he's going to be on the field a lot in passing down situations because I don't love him here but I do see a bit more upside with Chris Thompson NPR pretty high floor. If he's on the field I, think there's a hope that he is going to do that I don't know like early in the season sure you're staring at Oh and eight. And you're playing Chris Thompson over these three young running backs. Instead of finding out what they have I thought you were saying a fantasy team that drafts Chris Thompson is going to be oh and eight. And like it's not as like there was a time and I think this twenty. Where Chris Thompson mood like lit the world on fire maybe twenty sixteen for a little bit too. But that was a while ago. He's just going to catch passes. He's going to be there passing downs back. He's got the history with Jay gruden right they're going to be struggling they going to be trailing a lot. Yeah. Okay. Well, he doesn't like it I am. I'm very mad at you heath by the way. Because I sorted by your rankings and you've buried the Johnson and I pass over the onset Johnson with two different teams intuitive around why in the world any anyone ninety second. I you. You should have no expectation that I would have deontay Johnson ranked higher. This is seventeen spots higher than ADP, and I almost put them in a bust at that eighty. Go Look Keenan Allen's ADP. On CBS. Seventies. Complimenting him in the fourth round. So let's play. The wasn't complimenting him. I said I don't think it's that terrible of a pick like. I don't understand the hope forty Andre Johnson at all key. Now in a I must correct myself in the fifties who's seventies DJ Shark Seventy second overall I know there's a lot of wide receivers this have to do with the day Johnson. Saying don't use ADP I never see the Johnson go ninety second in-draughts that we do. But I know. By doing this draft, right with the stuck in this bubble where we think that our drafts for some reason are more representative than the thousands of other drafts have tape doing by non. People that don't get paid to do this. It's really our drafts or the weird ones Everyone, else is with me saying, why isn't the heck? Johnson in the seventh round. A lot of people like him he was a mediocre. Yes. A lot of a popular guy with fantasy twitter for sure. I I'm saying outside of that bubble I think people might look at him and say, well, he was just kind of okay in college and he didn't have a great combine and he had like seven hundred yards last year and they drafted Chase Klay Pool who they can't stop raving about they added Eric Hebron who's living with Ben Rothlisberger for part of the off season. And jujubes back. How was Deontay Johnson getting more than ninety targets? Especially something. Defense is so I just don't I. Wish I've asked this multiple times in podcast and no one has. Enlighten me it. I don't get it. Okay. Know what everything you said very good point. So. He goes ninety second overall and after Deontay Johnson. Bra got a value pick with what? With president with. Williams depressing William, right our draft or even called it a a spicy chicken strips value pick. That's Great Jack in the box like that big Christian Kirk off the board I'm GonNa give him a great pick bre stern. Off The board, we're about to be done with nine around. So maybe we should start looking at these teams and break them down, and then we'll just kind of comment on the the late round picks and we'll see the teams that we like the best. Okay. So let's start with pick. Number One. Bills Mafia. Jason Book He pick his team is this Tom? Brady? Christian McCaffrey Aaron. Jones. Cooper Cup. CORTLANDT. Sudden. Rob Gronkowski end. David Johnson at flex with Aj. Green. Devon Single Terry on the bench. That's an A. If you're had a good tight end, I'd give it a B plus. Yeah, I'm going be I think. He has a great bench with AJ, green single. Terry. But I'm scared of the tight end and Tom Brady I imagine he could have waited a couple more rounds to get any sort of quarterback in that same Brady. Tier I would. I will change that to an a minus if he's able to acquire higby Hooper Johnnu herndon like one of Noah Noah fant. So he reached a little bit for Brady and for Gronk he obviously believes in the bucks offense. But Brady McCaffrey Aaron Jones Cup Sutton. GRONK. And David Johnson. Okay. Pick number two this umbrellas. saquon Barkley in round one. And Leonard Fournette is operatives, Dak. Prescott saquon Barkley Leonard Fournette. Mike Evans in DJ. More. Michael Gallup at flex and you've got chase Edmunds Howard and Tyler Boyd on the bench and tight end yet but he's he's in good shape to get himself a good tight end. That's a B minus because you can't have no tight end at this point and. Be Relying on Leonard Fournette your number two running back actually the end Tyler higby Blake Darwin just went so now. Now we're looking at Kosinski Hopkinson Hooper heard he's not gonNa have great tight end. It May. He might he's GonNa have a high ranked tight in. All right third pick OSCEOLA viscous. Baby. Let's see. Does take me a second, sometimes pull up these teams. Are No quarterback yet. Ezekiel Elliott. I look at this team. This team just waited I think a little bit too long on rb to, but we'll see maybe he's GonNa Start let's say start smarter than Mac and week week one. So Ezekiel Elliott Marlin Mac. De'andre Hopkins Kenny Golladay. L. Beckham and Flex Zach Ertz at tight end. Still. No quarterback Deebo Samuel on the bench with James White and Marlon? Mac. Seems White and J JK Dobbins Sorry Marlin. A lot that is a big big difference because you've got the week one starter that I would guess I'm going to rank a top twenty twenty-five guy in week one probably week two most likely in week three but you've got an early season starter. Mac. Right you've got jk Dobbins who could just be a league record in the second half if something goes his way and you have James White, who can kind of cover that balance and be a Lo ends number two right in the same ranges to Rico and maybe not quite as good. I liked that combination a lot I on our draft show last night said, Tariq Cohen is the bridge to those guys but I like the combination of Marlon Mac with JK Dobbins and James Watt as the. Brooch. All right lesson learned here. Then he took Ezekiel Elliott with the third pick and then he sort of went like one rb. Loaded up on wide receiver and tight end he's got golladay. Already talked about this earlier, he would have preferred more and Ridley but Golladay Hopkins Beckham at Flex Zakar too tight end. You're just like, what are you GonNa do at rb two. So he took Marlin. Mac Jk Dobbins James White and Deebo Samuel, which I think was was a good pick as well so so so good. So you can pull that off. Okay, carry-on Johnson would be in the same range as Marlin for the strategy De'andre Swift if he's falling a bit because of his injury, same range for the strategy but I think it's a great way to do rb to. Okay I'm just GONNA make pick here real quick, and then we'll take a look at. At Support Labor who had the fourth pick? But this team here that I'm picking four has a full starting lineup. So we're just GONNA take best player available. And that would be. Is there anyone good left Other than tight end which we don't need. Rugs. Yeah No. Darryl hinders sit and no I think I'm Josh. Kelley over Darrell. Henderson at this point. How do you feel about that? I think it's six in one hand half dozen the other enough. Okay going to make one more pick here Henderson on this. Wonderful. All right. Let's now take a look at the fourth pick which was AAA. Bra took Dalvin Cook. We love to start for this team Davin cooking round one Chris Godwin then James Connor. Matt Ryan is the quarterback Cook and Connor. Godwin and Amari Cooper Hunter Henry Hyde End. T. Y.. Hilton. Or Julian settlement or Preston Williams flex. So. I. Think this is a great team, but but there is no running back depth I mean he's got two running backs and in ninety six. I would assume here we've already. Yeah. He's. He's in trouble I would. This is the type of team where I would be more likely to go get benny snow. James Garner, he could. He could still draft Tevin Coleman just done Naim hines. There's still some some low end number two options say calm but I think lesson learned here for this for if you take this. Two running backs with your first three picks. which were in the right tear, which were Dalvin College Connor Great Start in this league only you only have to start to wide receivers. There's no need to take five wide receivers before you take your third running back and winner tight end. Yeah. The clear mistake was Julian Elman at pick sixty nine. That was not nice. Dobbins four net single terry where the next three picks after he took. Elman. Yeah. That was the mistake but still I think it's it's a solid B. maybe even better. If it was running back, stay healthy he's in the playoffs. A cheapies picks Kevin mccollum picking fifth took Alvin Kamara Kyle Murray Chimera and Jonathan Taylor. Alan Robinson and Jarvis. Landry. George kittle at tight end, and let's call the flex Camakers, Deontay Johnson, or Henry, rugs armstead maybe who knows maybe he's Affleck's So some options there repeat the team cuyler Murray. and. Let's sorry. We just had an auto pixel. I'm just GONNA. See what happened there unless back that pick out and resume. Okay. Kinda Marie Alvin Kamara Jonathan Taylor Allah Robinson Jarvis Landry George Kittle camakers at flex and the benches. Good. I. Like. The bench deontay Johnson? Right armstead Henry Rugs. How do we feel bad how do you feel about this team? This team could have I really slow start giving that Jonathan Taylor and camakers may not have that big of a role early on and Jarvis Landry may not be one hundred percent. So I'm not a huge fan of this one. This is C.. There's there's boom boom boom potential for sure guy very Jonathan Sailor really intr-. Interesting. This is the team that you're hoping. You're playing early in the year. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Get Jonathan Taylor and see how healthy landry is in week one if he's back to Fogo camakers right good point. Okay Let's see the pick. Our my team. The great team that picked sixth and took lied Edwards aware. That is Mahomes Edwards Eland Melvin, Gordon tyreek hill decay metcalf. Evan Ingram at tight end. Zach Moss. At flex although I think brandin cooks, it's probably my flex and week one against the chiefs and then on the bench would have Moss Ronald Jones and Darryl Henderson. So I only have three wide receivers, Terry killed, UK, McAfee, and Brandin cooks a very as our team. It isn't as our team. Year. Is a good thing although I hardly ever have Patrick. Mahomes. I know I just think you drafted a handful of players that you like it's everyone that listens to this podcast would know that you like more than I do I do. You give. Okay. I think Evan. Ingram. Meetings a giant Zach. Moss I. Don't know how I feel about Evident Graham Edison Daryl Hinduism I've taken him I think. Daryl Henderson. Yeah. But no, I think it's a solid team. I would like another wide receiver for sure about to take the Sean Jackson. He's my week one flex I am so convinced that checks is going to have a good week one. Over brandin cooks. That could be really rough. On. Thursday night and he puts up big your weight and under Sean Jackson to it Adam do it. What do you think? He? The you know wide receivers have often struggled in arrowhead right and the chiefs might actually have a good defense this year. So this really have to look into. The matchup like the chiefs defense. Is Not going to be good early in the year I don't think why not they have two or three players suspended. Okay well. I do you are you feeling the? Sean, Jackson. Week. One. I think that he will be popular DFS play. that's non answer. I really have a hard time with these types of narratives. That's not the way that I approach fantasy football and so I'm usually not like, I'm not going to project him for a much larger share in week one that I would in week four or if he was still playing but no, it's the narrative is not he's facing the redskins. As former team, he's good in week one, he torched them last year the narrative is he's their number, one wide receiver they don't have jalen Reagan they don't have Alshon Jeffery for this game. Yeah I think that is their number, one wide receiver and they're playing a team that they might not have to throw it more than like twenty-five Carson May. Anders is not hundred percent Carson Wentz at two huge games against them last year. Yeah. That's another narrative that I don't really look at. But, the point is the Redskins, their past defense last team the. Dammit the football team their past defense was bad enough forgetting have to throw a lot to have a good game. It's true. That was the case last year. Yeah, their pass rush will definitely be better this year they're secondary. Pie be a little bit better to I'm not saying I dislike it like but I just I don't know. There's narratives working in his favor. I will be lower onto Sean Jackson than the consensus in week one I'm certain. Okay. All, right. Let's take a look at the next pick at the seventh pick. This would be Francis Roth. Seventh pick of the draft was Devante Adam no with Michael Thomas I'm sorry. So Josh Allen at quarterback Kenyan Drake and Mark Ingram at running back Ben. Lopes, the steam. Michael Thomas and AJ, Brown at wide, receiver. Mark Andrews tight end. Andy Andrea Swift at flex or Christian Kirk. Yeah. Probably. Christian Kirk, Antonio Gibson Damian Harris, who might not be ready for week one by the way Hartman. There's been a lot of like Damian Harris might not be ready for week one who's going to start for the Patriots now. I wasn't like I missed the announcement Damian Harris was the starting running back for the Patriots. and Sony Michelle was trending in the right direction, right? And Lamar Miller is full healthy and rex perkins there. Josh Allen Kenyan Drake. Mark Ingram Michael. Thomas Aj. Brown Mark Andrews the Andrea Swift or let's say maybe it's Christian Kurkin Week. One. What do you think about this team? I like it outside flex. That's the only spot that I feel like there's a weakness the wide receivers are great. Kenyan drake paired with mark. Ingram, is good with man. Josh Allen is a top six talk seven quarterback. It's an a for Ben Greenwich Great for him and I would give it a B.. Does it bother you that Ingram won't be a big pass catcher andrews as greatest could be probably won't be a big pass catcher. and Aj Brown same thing they're not exactly PR. Guys. That bother you at all? Not a big deal especially given that Michael Thomas is going to be catching a ton of passes and Kenyan drake is a great pass Catcher as well but it certainly limits the upside. Said Win Aj Brown was picked I thought that was too early NPR. So yeah, I don't look at it on like you I don't look at it. As if catches category but I do think. I do think Jake Brown was too early. All right. Let's go to the eighth pick carry on swiftly into the Golladay Leo which team I ended up picking Leo Technical difficulties unfortunately. the Marge Jackson at quarterback, Joe Mixing and Chris Carson running back. Juju Smith Schuster. and Dj Chart Wide Receiver. Hayden hearst at tight end and the flex will be eventually David Montgomery. But in week one, let's say it is probably curiosity on Johnson and filling shepherd. Yeah it's going to start shepherd against. Carry on this team this team ended up being really good. Looking draft Jackson first round teams I've ever seen. Now but imagine. You know it's funny. Is like if I had dispe I may have taken. Joe Mixing around one that I could have taken like Lamar Jackson around to I wouldn't have but. A lot of people would take them are taking their. In round one and round on. This team turned out good Jackson Nixon Carson. Char Carson around four seems like he took everyone. Everyone who just happened to fall. Carson in the fourth round is later than normal and later than normal I don't remember where you took David Montgomery him earlier but I think around on fell to. One, two, three, four, five, six, Montgomery was six I guess. Okay. All right. Next team with the ninth pick. Joshes football. Team. By team name in the podcast league fantasy football team, which was very funny. Aaron Rodgers Nick Saban Torri Cohen. Davante Adams Calvin Ridley Darren Waller and Keenan Allen at flex. This is the team I. Don't like that much because I'm not high on going and I'm not hockey on. On the bench, the Murray Philip Lindsey Nikiel Harry Blake Darwin, and CD lamb. Soup it's a good bench. Okay, team okay. Don't like Rogers either. Roger. Heath. You there. Yeah. Rogers is interesting. What Ben Rogers. He was efficient last year, and that's all that he had to be. But he had one spike game of forty five plus points and that was it. He wasn't the Aaron Rodgers that put up twenty five plus points a game and six point four touchdown league and I don't think he's progressing anymore. They didn't do anything to add to that offense in the passing game devante Adams will be great but I don't think he's a top twelve quarterback. Okay let's go to the next team there Josh artime. Matthew Stafford quarterback Josh Jacobs, and Levy on bell at running back Julio Jones Robert Woods at wide receiver. Marquess Brown flex. At tight end. So Stafford Jacobs and Bell Julio and Woods Garcia Tight End Marquees Brown. At at flex their a second down on the roster. No Chris. Thompson Marvin Jones where he moster most. It's a pretty good flair pretty good option on the bench name hines dairy asleep. Like Slayton and most on the bench are awesome. But you know starting Marquees Brown. where he got lady on I wasn't a fan of and Sickie Stafford without any backup quarterback tight end. It's a little scary. Sorry guys. If you want to take over a second I'm dealing with some draft room stuff I will take over right now and plug the things that we have to poke today. Draft Kit. and. There's ranking sleepers breakouts bus. My favorite thing is each analyst has their five strategies for how to draft. So you've been listening to the podcast you know the guys they like, but the strategies that the Mary simple stuff CBS sports dot com slash kit to get it be ready for your draft get it before the weekend it's updated it's ready to go More fun and the five minute five quick hitting realm is the brand new fantasy football podcast fantasy football today in five get you caught up on all the news of the day just five minutes download and subscribe on spotify Apple podcasts, stitcher smart speakers wherever you listen to podcasts. It's five minutes. He recorded every single night, release it in the morning and just you know listen before you make your bed before you brush. Head. I don't make your bed. Not Really. Why? I don't know because it's like it's just GonNa. Get messed up with like it's the same reason you doesn't brushes here. All right. My here I don't know I I. Don't know. We don't make the bed that much. It doesn't that Messi it's like a little mess. No big deal I made a big mistake by the way was not really paying attention. It's Jalen Rigor instead of Daryl. Williams is the Clyde Edwards dealer owner deftly should taken Daryl Williams. we have two more teams to review here the twelfth picks jd M J DM's picks. Let's see. We got. This was Russell Wilson Derrick Henry Kareem Hunt Tyler Lockett Tara maclaurin Travis Kelsey and will fuller with Boston Scott Noah Fan Jerry Judy Matt Breda and the viscous Chenault on the bench starting line like this team a lot Wilson Kelsey you're good at quarterback and tight end Derrick, Henry Kareem Hunt Lockett maclaurin, and will fuller at flex. I think this is a good here. There are no holes and the flex has a ton of upside and they are to a ton of upside where you would say are potential weaknesses. So I really liked the same yeah. Jerry Judy Map reto viscous Chenault on the bench. Pretty good. Right our final team Adams bad takes. Twelve pick went back to back running backs with Sanders and Ecuador finishes with the Shawn Watson Mile. Sanders Austin. Adam. Feeling Stefan. Digs. Tyler, higby and Todd Gurley at flex. That's really the key pick is todd. Gurley. See how that one turns out. So three running backs with his first four picks the Shawn Watson Miles Sanders Awesome Heckler Adam thelander stefan digs. Tyler higby and Todd Gurley. Got devante Parker on the bench. Got Janus on the bench. Got Alexander Madison and Aj Dylan on the bench van. Jefferson Emmanuel Sanders. Good bench pieces there. This was very well executed, and this is what happens when you wait until the sixth round and then the seventh round to draft one of these topics quarterbacks you can shape Rosser and still have a guy who's probably going to finish in the top six and could easily finish in the top three. All. Right. So that's the team that went running back running back and definitely made it work could have had a better wide receiver to if not for taking todd Gurley but that's okay. It's early as reflects in I. think that was round four as probably the three four swing and Stefan digs sixtieth overall as as a wide receiver to, but I get an crowder and Parker on your bench. I think if you're going to be a little weekend wide receiver to back them up there with with crowder is a good PR option and Parker who was a top twelve wide receiver last year. but not as good as present Williams. Coordinates. Okay. Thank you. You you Kinda went silent there at the end you just trying to help out. He's helping the kids. He's about to hop on zoom call for one hundred dollars donation someone got a private zoom. and. I'm very excited. Stood it. Everybody's doing it. 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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 244: Cam Newton's Back in Town

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 244: Cam Newton's Back in Town

"Golden state media concepts fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy, football, news and advice, deciding who to draft first round, cowing Gaga and how a lot of your team got you covered? Dishes leave Zionists deletes he. Arlene I DP DP lead even daily Fantasy Football League Djilas, we break down all the questions of fantasy football. It's the golden state media concepts fantasy football podcast. Welcome to the GMC fantasy football podcast on the GMC podcast network I am one of their hosts that you hear every Friday Ethan of everyone's having a wonderful day I feel like I'm having. A great one as of right now I just came from the dentist, so it feel clean and. Well kept. Make sure if you can go to the dentist. Make sure you can go, 'cause. It's a wonderful experience, maybe not while it's getting cleaned. Sometimes it hurts, but. No pain, no game right I suppose speaking of no pain, no gain. If you've been a fan of the Carolina Panthers or Cam Newton or anything like that, you have been in some some emotional distress emotional pain of recent time because he was unsigned. Going into the beginning of this week until recently. Cam Newton is now on the. Set Airline. That's how much. I've keep remembering of how everybody remember this Cam Newton. Unless you're like a college football. Fan. Or should I say a? Supporter of just college football, than you only know Cam from the one year at Auburn but cam in the NFL. Of course he's been in Carolina for all his wife. Until, recently now he is part of the New England patriots he signed. A contract that could potentially net him seven million dollars in a year, but is all tied up in incentive in stipulations and having to get certain milestone marks and things like that so. We don't know just how much money he's going to get, but it's A. Low risk. High reward for? The Patriots and Bill Belichick and it's something that. Really really seems to be A. Chance for CAM. Newton basically to have a year audition for the rest of the League. Because I'm I'm certain he doesn't WANNA. Make this money for the rest of his life like this sort of threshold. He's thirty one I believe he's very young still which is insane, actually looking back at it. and. You know he's a guy that still has something left to prove like I don't think that he's done, and I think a lot of people gave up on him or people in Carolina gave up on him in the rest of the League was isn't a weird spot for quarterbacks to where you know Philip. Rivers gets picked up somewhere. Of course. We all know where Tom Brady went. And a lot of quarterbacks got drafted, so there wasn't open vacancies for the quarterback position as much. As may have seen. even a year ago, so now. Cameras on the Patriots in. Maybe we should've rethought about this. We kept thinking Oh. Yeah, them this them that and we didn't know for sure. Just how that was going to work out, and it didn't seem like the Patriots were going to budge on the idea that they were going to rock the boat with Jarrett Stidham and see how that was going to actually play out so for the longest time I think everybody assume the jared student was going to be the starter, and they were gonNA. Figure something else out. Well here we are. They figured something else out, and they brought in Cam Newton so. We don't know of cameras going to automatically earned the starting position, but I would have to believe that if bill bell check is a guy who does not believe in the idea of quote, unquote tanking because then fell. People don't take NFL for one. The NFL is too tough of sport. It and I mean tough as in its sixteen game seasons right. and. People. Don't want to risk their lives. Livelihood risk their their bodies. In order to just lose to get better draft picks for owners, right? There's no guaranteed contracts. There's or there's no fully guaranteed contracts, so you gotta go out there and make your money and players. I have a hard time believing that in a super competitive sport like football. People are just okay with tanking. I won't even say people are okay with tanking in basketball, because usually if there's tanking involved. And you're bringing in new talent. Nine Times out of ten. The people you're tanking with. You're not gonNA stick with. So. Nothing. Anybody's actually okay with tanking when they're playing sports. Southern, GM offices, and you know for an office. Do the math nerds all that say that it's more. It gives you a better probability to be better in a few years rather than rocking with what you have and trying to win, but in football it's better to try to win anyway, because if football if you suck, you suck at it in a day. If you're not in good, you're not going to win a lot of games and we saw it firsthand. The Miami Dolphins were not good in the beginning of the season. They were really abysmal and people thought they'd be the worst thing of all time. And statistically rather in it ended up the found a way to turn it around, then ended up going five hundred for the back half of the rest of the season, and now people are singing a different tune about the dolphins and. You know I'm not gonNA. Sit here. The dolphins are projected to go lake, nine, seven, now or seventy nine, but it just goes to show you that not every team. Not Every team is Tang central? Not Everything is about tanking. We've gotTA stop. Ideology that tanking is what just smart people do or what? That's what the smart person would do in GM office and football. Especially, it's just not something that happens anyway. Taking off the the taking little mini rant. About Cam Newton. And Bill Belichick Bill Jack isn't. A tanker never has been, and he's always tried his best to maximize talent. He has around him and I think he saw that this team. May still have a chance to do some things in the AFC. That really is pretty top heavy from my perspective and also. Is the division you can still do some things in this AFC because nothing is really guaranteed. We know the bills are pretty decent now we know the bills have a number one wide receiver. They have a really great defense. They have a young quarterback who hopefully is able to take another step in the right direction? Their offense is still probably ready. Kate predicated on running the football and controlling. The clock and limiting turnovers, and not really taking a lot of deep ball chances, but we'll see what happens when the season if seen starts. We do have to keep in mind. That they have been in the playoffs a few times in the last couple years, but they haven't really done anything while they were there. The Patriots have all this experience and merit, and it's hard to get rid of the old guard until the old guard has gone in the old guard technically. Is Not gone. They may have lost in the play offs, and they lost Tom Brady, but they still have one of the best head coach we've ever seen. In Sport coaching their team and it looks like he's in a different attack mood. It looks like he's thinking about different things, and honestly I feel like bill pretty excited the fact that he doesn't have Tom Brady anymore. Maybe this means unlocks a different level of his offense that he never had because he had to rock with Tom Brady and now. He has opportunity to do some things with Cameron Newton if he does win the starting job so for fantasy purposes. We gotta go through what he has done over his career in fantasy football, and also we gotta look at what. Some people his run, his era and time have been able to do in what he does. It makes everything worthwhile so. Cam Newton is a guy who is not the most accurate passer in the world. He's kind of He's more arm. Strengthen physical rob -bility but his armed. Accuracy is never always been strong suit. With that being said he is always been seen as stat sheet stuffer in his early time, and nowadays he's kind of teetering off with as but like most quarterbacks things start to slow down the longer in the League but. He never really saw the same production as he did his super bowl run, and that's to be expected right. There's a lot of fluky stuff in Super Bowl. Run that happened. As far as the stats and that transpired that season alone, but. You know you have to include it into his overall body of work. He did have really really spectacular. Almost four hundred point run in twenty fifteen and Now we see quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes. We see Lamar Jackson. We see quarterback still kinda touching that that realm that space I don't know Campbell ever get back to that level because that was. A different. A different breath stuff. He was untouchable for me of the year until literally the Super Bowl. And since then. He's been close to three hundred. Basically for the last couple years, and of course last year, he did not play enough games. He only played two, so we don't even count twenty nineteen against him, but when we look at his stats from. Twenty nineteen or I'm sorry from twenty eleven to basically twenty, eighteen, comparative to guys like Wilson and. Philip rivers. Aaron Rodgers I look at these guys because they have been. Basically stat sheet stuffer within the fantasy football rings quarterback of the guys who I used to target as far as. Guys you want on your fantasy football team because they definitely bring out the best in your team, so Cameroon's passing stats are a little bit left to be desired. In some regard now granted. Some of these stats are a little bit weird. Because of course, players have been playing longer in. They have different offenses in different things that went on, but I took it to twenty twelve onward. Primarily because put Russell Wilson in the in the player pool and he did not come into the League until twenty twelve, so from twenty twelve onward into now. Cam has less passing yards in these guys. And a lower completion percentages around sixty. You are these guys around sixty five percent, but he has overall passer rating of eighty six. And he has A. Ninety one interception. which is the second highest on the list? Of course you know over? Nine seasons seven seasons. Excuse me. You know. Aaron Rodgers said only forty six interceptions, which is crazy, but he's an outlier. You know has been as far as turnover ratios and things like that. But Here. We get crazy because we look at the rushing numbers, only person that is even equally comparable at this point. Is Russell Wilson and if you look at the touchdowns. then. It's absolutely insanity so. Forty four touchdowns over the last seven years, the averages, five yards and attempt during a run in the thing. That's interesting about Cameron Newton when I listen out on podcast recently. From Ryen, Russillo. and. He had a guy guest on there and he mentioned that. The great thing about Cam, Newton. And his skill set is that he is all designed runs everything he gets from the run. Game is basically designed runs. He doesn't move outside and scramble outside the pocket now by designer by choice. It's just not something he's ever done, so that's why in the Super Bowl. Cam Newton ended up. Getting really really flushed out and Getting sacked on for majority of that game. because. They figured out that he doesn't scramble. They don't have to sit out a spy. They don't have to kind of slow up on the blitz blitz and a certain way because he's not going to escape in run out the pocket. So now it wouldn't surprise me. Bill Belichick finds a way to use this to best ability because that's what he does. Cam? Newton is a runner. and Passer and he's probably one of the most unique players we've ever seen in in the sport. As just his physical like his physicality his size. The way that he can be the best runner on your team. And you know he distributes the football around. And I think playing alongside someone like James White. Especially coming from the Christian McCaffrey side of things. That's upside value potentially. I don't know what happens Sony Michelle in this, not to say that I don't expect somebody Michelle to do what he's already been doing. which is not that much, but in the passing game I just don't see. Michelle, do anything with Cam, nor to them I, I don't think that changes his role in this offense or his role in the team. Looking forward to the rest of their skill positions. Of course you know. They drafted their rookie. Tight in. I'm not sure honestly they're passing game can go one or two ways does it can be surprisingly better than what we thought elements, somehow still as the thousand yard receiver, and gets multiple touchdowns, and all things are good on that side of the. Goal Line for all things considered. But I would have to. Caveat this by saying. They still don't have a lot of skill. Position players who you can trust. I don't know if there's a move to make their I. Don't know if there's somebody there looking at that via trade or somebody left in free agency that no one's really has radar on, but. They have what they have now. They added Cam Newton so. I think that for cameras approve it year of course, and some some would say that this could be his last chance and I. Don't know why it should be. His last chance I. Think People Unfairly Great Cam a bit harsher than he needs to be. 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Fantasy Footballers Football Games of the universe. We are here once again talking about fantasy football running back this time. And as you know my favorite position in the NFL, sometimes people who are undervalued and overvalued in our friends from football pro football focus. have. Created a list of we're going to go through in. You know I'm GonNa. Give my opinions on some of these guys and I'm going to. Of course. Go through all of these and make a conscious decision for myself, but I hope this information can help you guys. Do some things in your draft and your draft boards and make some conscious decisions because that's all football is about. If you're not making conscious decisions, then you're just playing. Pick a guy with a cool name and we don't WanNa do that here at the GMC, so we're going to start with undervalued fantasy football running backs in twenty twenty. The first person on their list is beyond bill. So. Bell is being drafted outside of the first three rounds in a twelve man league, even though he will continue to see plenty of volume in New York twenty, nineteen lady on saw one of the NFL's biggest workloads, accumulating over three hundred touches and fifteen games, and he was one of eight running backs to reach that feat, but the volume didn't translate into fantasy success bill finish the the running back sixteen, running behind the jets thirtieth ranked. Run blocking off. Offensive Line Unit. He's only scored four touchdowns in just two rushing attempts in that win for more than fifteen yards, which ranked dead last among running backs with at least one hundred Carey's so. The overall production was disappointing, but we have to remember that volume is king and fantasy football and with running back. Rookie La-, Michael P Rhine and veteran Frank Gore to only competition for touches bells, going to see plenty of work in twenty twenty. He's still operates as the primary pass catching running back in could finish with a lot of the team target share, considering the lack of established receivers on the jets roster, his pro football focus, receiving great and twenty, nineteen was seventy seven point three was ranked fifth out of nineteen, running back with at least fifty targets, the jets offense is also due for a positive regression, and it was bad across the board last season, ranking, dead last in average yards per play, which was four point six. In two, thousand, seventeen in two, thousand, eighteen, the Arizona cardinals in buffalo bills both ranked bottom five in average yards per play. But until nineteen both teams, average yards per play increase to an average of five point, twenty five, which was near the League average of five point thirty nine. quarterback Sam Donna will be healthy and returning without mono so New York has made significant overhaul as well at the offensive line position starting with his first round pick. Mikey Beckon, and if the jets offense can be even average, twenty twenty bill has a strong chance of finishing in the top twelve option with his work as a receiver I'm sorry as a receive out the Backfield, an opportunity to be able to see more touchdown. Bells. ADP is running back twenty. which basically means that you're drafting him at his floor and pro-football focuses fantasy projections have bell temp in total rushing attempts and ninth in total receptions among running backs. I feel like that's a solid case for Levy on bell. Nobody's been Kinda. Questionable about in the first place, right? We have no idea just how good the jets offense is going to be this year, but from what we saw last year, it was one hundred percent abysmal. They haven't done some improvements in the offseason. Might most teams doing? Most teams aren't supposed to do. Their job is to improve season after season two in order to get to the promised, land and Based off of volume based off. How many touches against? The artists. I don't think that lady I'm bill law. Stay a step in on the jets. It's not like he's regressing. As a player is just a lot of the stuff that was around him a lot of the players a lot of the personnel. was just not up to par his best option outside of himself with Robbie, Anderson, last year and Robbie Anderson didn't have the the greatest year for fantasy wide receivers out there I. Know First Hand Because I had Robin Anderson, so it was a tough scene for a lot of different players. Of course, they lost Sam Darnold for numerous amounts of games. When Sam Darnold came back, things were better. For their team, but I say that it was still better for Levy on Bell, so hopefully they can get lazy. I'm more involved. Numbers wise an offense aside from just you know raw touches, and maybe we can able to see. Maybe we'll be able to see some things really really come to fruition with that signing that he was. Brought on last year. All, right next is David Montgomery, so he's the consensus of running back twenty three and his average draft position is twenty seven at running back, so montgomery fell victim to similar situation lady on Bell, he got to work low with two hundred forty two carries in twenty five receptions, but failed to meet expectations of early round. Pick the running back. Last year still finished the season with twenty four overall in running back section, but ranked eighth enforce missed tackles. among hit forty seven, or those among running backs with at least twenty five carries. He struggled to create on his own, as is yards after contact pretend were two point three and ranked outside the top seventy qualify running backs in the also failed. To make big plays with just five runs with over fifteen yards. The good news for Montgomery is the breakaway percentage is not a stable metric, and they're still opportunity for Montgomery to create more big player. Twenty twenty, considering how he showed that he camby elusive, he missed tackles force. Per Attempt at a rank thirteenth among running backs with at least one hundred carries, and that's much more stable metric for future success. Nick Foles, potentially under center could also increase Montgomery's role as a receiver falls not a mobile quarterback by any means, and will not have the option to Tuck and run the ball like you know Mitchell. Trubisky in the veteran is also has a history of targeting the running back position. The Eagles heavily featured Darren. sproles the receiver in his second stint with Philadelphia in third in three games that he started. Started for Jacksonville after his injury running back, Leonard Fournette saw a massive twenty percentage targets share so was improved quarterback play. The bears should be better offense general, which means more red zone work for Montgomery and this is where we'll have to provide. Of course you know fancy points since he's not a primary pass catching back and last year, Chicago's total of thirty nine goal line plays including inside the five. Was just twenty first in the League, and that gave the gave him a Gumri his share of tries. Eighteen carries with the only amounted to five touchdowns last season, running back at least seventeen carries inside the five about eight and a half. Montgomery is going to see another heavy workload. Considering Ryan now is primarily backup on early downs, and he looks to be a great value going into the end of the fourth and beginning of the fifth round with potential increase in receiving work and touchdowns. Fantasy projections have been gumri seeing. Just over two hundred forty touches twenty twenty. I am. Going to say I was not on his radar last year to be honest, and I was a bit nervous to see where the bears going to work. Because I feel like Mitchell trubisky. Held that team back from what it could be. That's not a unpopular statement. I think most people think that way in the first place anyway. But we're just I. AM curious to to look at him, so I'll have to dig deep into that. Into that position into that situation because I feel like the bears are going to be a team that a lot of people probably are hesitant on looking at their overall playmakers. And 'cause. We don't know what the quarterback situation is. We know Nick foles coming, but We have to assume that nick. Foles is floors better than Mitchell. Trubisky is four right now and. A. Lot of people are projecting that both of them were somehow see the field, and that's never a good sign so I am going to put a tab on him so to speak. Next is Ronald Jones where he's rank thirty. In! Running backs in his ADP's thirty six so fast, the owners apparently still smell the stench of Ronald Jones. Poor rookie season despite all the strikes he made in year two in his sophomore. Season he acquired more than a thousand yards from scrimmage and scored six touchdowns in show. Great Improvement has arrived receiver and rusher ranking, fifth and yards per route ran among running backs released twenty four carries. It was also tough to bring down ranking sixteenth in lose rating. And eighth in missed tackles forced per attempt, so Jones looked to be the number one running back for Tampa Bay, but they drafted Vanderbilt's Keyshawn Vaughn in the third round, twenty twenty draft and has made things less clear. Still the suppression of high could only add value especially since Vaughn is more likely to work on passing downs, also chance that von works as receiver, but with so many weapons Tom Brady disposal any receiving production may not be reliable on a weekly basis. The bucks also have another pass catching back on the roster in their. Wally so. What the offense expected to We all need to we. All WanNa see early down runners and go line back on the team and Jones looks to be clear front runner so. Keep in mind that. has also flashed impressive explosive until nineteen, and he was fourteen best in breakaway percentage. And he was fourth highest in yards after the catch per reception, he might not need to see much work on the passing game to give be a good value in the sixth and seventh rounds, and with flashes, a big play upside combined with his potential role. Go Line in a prolific offense. By design so now we're going to look at some overvalued guys and Just brace yourself because it's probably some guys that everybody's probably looked at it and say he might be a good tie, so Joe Mixing. Mixon had a slow start to twenty nineteen, and he was just running back thirty six at the end of the week. Nine with things can. Completely change over the second half of the year. These finishes running back seven. From Week ten to week, sixteen and part of his improvement can be credited the scene. Twenty more carries than any other back during that time, but joe mixing grazing rate stats are greatly improved, and he finally started seeing the end zone. There is certainly reason to be excited about. Joe Mixing in the Bengals offense had into twenty twenty wide receiver Aj Green Twenty, nineteen, first round left tackle Joe Wilson, or Williams returned from injury while rookie, Joe Borough and t higgins offer a reason for optimism. There doesn't seem to be appeared to any new competition for mixing snaps, which also gives him a high floor of the problem. Is that in order for mixing two matches? ADP needs to put up. Last year's week ten to week sixteen production over an entire season, which is unlikely while his consensus rankings are much lower than his pr projections at fantasy football focus. or Pro pro football focus that is insane. put them at. Sixteen So the first issues that mixing unlikely to see as many opportunities last year, he averages twenty one point six carries per game, which isn't very sustainable over long term and improve bingles oftens may get him more garbage time carries, but he won't see as many touches early in games in the bengals ran on forty four percent of first quarter plays last year in the six high ranked. Or six highest rate and with borough, exciting trio wide receivers, they will likely be passing the ball more. Okay so next. We're going to get into Clyde. Edwards Allaire and Damian Williams so. While Clyde the glide is near unanimous, first overall picking Rookie Dynasty drafts his outlook for twenty twenty is a little, less clear regardless of how talented he and the two thousand nineteen lead rusher. Damian Williams are. It's hard to imagine so much. Fancy production from two players on the team with Patrick mahomes killed Travis Kelsey last year Williams was twenty second on most PPO points per game while backup Shawn. McCoy was forty third in general, the talk of the top rookie running backs are being drafted higher than their projected points. while. You're picking for upside whether you're picking running back and redraft. At these players ADP's there will be far more disappointments in hits. Ever Z. Larry needs to dominate playing time to match his ADP and the projections currently give. Words more than twice as much carries as Williams and more than three times targets even with that volume. The rejections put him at running back twenty two. One reason for optimism, though is that Edwards is. How well Kareem, hunt performance rookie season in two, twenty, seventeen and the difference that. Didn't have much competition three running backs behind him on the depth chart combined for two carries in two thousand eighteen and nothing until the nineteen, the chiefs obviously won't be a run heavy as they weren't. Twenty Seventeen, Alex Smith in hunt unless Mahomes is significantly injured, so the chiefs first half paths percentage of seventy five point eight percent in the regular season in twenty, nineteen, most by the League in by far margin. last on his list of Marlon Mac, which I don't know why he's even overvalued. He's definitely somebody who. took a hit in the draft this year so. Like Damian Williams Marlin Mac faces competition for playing time in the highly drafted rookie, but it gets worse from Mac alongside facing competition from Jonathan Taylor, the colts also have undervalue. Pass catching back in the him himes. Max Fantasy stock has gone down even before the NFL draft after averaging eighteen pass routes per game over the first half of twenty nineteen, the drop to nine per game in the second half hinds into lesser extent. Wilkins to these passing rows, even Max production as a runner. Last year doesn't say much as a colts steeler offense of line would have been given even an average running back chance succeed the second round rookie will be a major competition for early down snaps, and projections expect one hundred ninety eight carries for Taylor. Compared to ninety five for Mac, those numbers would need to flip for Max favor in order for. For his current ADP and it would take an injury for him to exceeded the upside for Mac is that he did perform well as runner last year in his should give Taylor a good fight for playing time Mac had twenty seven I down percentage for touchdown rate in twenty nineteen, which was the best rate for backs with at least two hundred carries and Taylor on the other hand. Let all FBI's running backs in first downs easy last two seasons Wilkins is was the highest grade Russia and twenty nineteen on a limited sample size, and this would be one of NFL's most crowded running backfield's in the twenty twenty season. So there. You have it some overrated. Some undervalued I should say and some overvalued guys for running back. We'll continue on. We will continue with the GMC fantasy football podcast in just a moment. After this break, we'll be right back. Check out the show that's built on the. From the UFC to extreme cage biting, they got the fights covered. Check out the GSM. See MMA podcast. 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He has competition in Zach Moss in Josh Allen. He should handle for most of the work underneath the goal line and is not unthinkable. That moss turns into a split Backfield. The addition of Fon digs shrinks to target pie in the passing game. Even more and a pie hasn't been particularly favorable to running backs with Alan, so he's fifteen point nine percent target share between nineteen seventeen point four, hundred eighteen last would not least buffalo does not have vertically favorable schedule and things get really challenging after week eleven bye as they play the chargers, San. Francisco Pittsburgh Denver in England. is very likely that. Some of these guys will have zero shares in double single Terry at all. Experts are non spots lower than ADP on him. In for good reason, he is third in line for goal line carries as he was last year, in which led to him, getting just two carries inside the five yard line. He also wasn't particularly efficient in the passing game leaving lot to be desired in addition with Mac Os. Zach Mas in the third round highlights. The fact that they want to utilize a timeshare in Moss's in the perfect thunder to single terriers lightning, the bill GM has already come forward and say Mars will take over the ring or roll, which means there isn't enough upside to select him closer to his average draft position. Next is Rahim. MOSTER but first. Let me just say this. I. Like dove and Single Terry a lot. He did me a service as a rookie last year. I didn't expect to see as much. And I was really hurt. When Frank Gore took a lot of its touches, and it seems to me that the running back by committee strategy is going to be fully implemented within the Buffalo Backfield so. I would have to say you have to be cautious in taking him. And if you have somebody who will get more run and more bang for your buck, it probably is safer to find him somewhere else. But into. Rahim. MOSTER so. It's understandable that some people would have been enchanted by the big numbers that he put up, rolled up in December and January. He has seven hundred fifteen yards and twelve touchdowns in eight games, playoffs included, but overall profile suggests he could be the nexus midnight runners class of one hit wonders. He's twenty eight. He's only two hundred and five pounds. He doesn't catch many passes basically a non factor on offense, four college seasons at purdue and his four in his first four NFL seasons. He's destined to share work. Load with tells me Coleman and perhaps others. You're going to draft him at or above his average rank, and and that's just not going to be great. It seems as though everybody is hype, form and. Just, like before he was super hot through the first from week twelve to the playoffs. It just doesn't seem sustainable and honestly. He's twenty eight years old at a running back and it looked like he had a rookie season. Of course, it's a brilliant story. Great story for him, but I just don't see it really transpiring into anything more than just one of those weird seasons that we're going to look back on and say y'all remember when Rahim mustard almost destroyed. Many fantasy leagues same thing. Next is AJ. So we all want to like AJ Brown, but It's hard to get behind him near why receivers six seen? Everything about debut screens fantasy regression, tying for forty-six among whiteouts and targets, ranking up racking up to twenty point, two yards per catch and scoring on fifteen percent of his catches, his quarterback Ryan Tannehill is also bound for regression from seven point, seven touchdown rate and league, leading nine point six yards per attempt, Brown saw, ten percent of the titans targets inside the ten yard line time for one hundred nineteenth in the league in the Tattoo Gory, and is likely to see some role growth in the year two sure, but everything broke right to push brown into wide receiver. Fifteen half PR finished last year. And you don't get that kind of two years in a row in NFL plus Tennessee's run, heavy offense doesn't sport the target upside to make him impending regression. And I would say he's a guy that I. Look at somewhere else in that same range. And I would focus on other players just because I've always been kind of hesitant on Tennessee's offense in general outside of Derrick Henry. I'm not too sure what their passing game is gonNA. Look like and I think this is just another strong case of the eye test were I didn't look into the numbers too hard for as a brown or the titans, but it always felt like this can't be something that from his numbers what I saw. Not Say. He's a bad player. I just didn't see the numbers being a reflection of what he actually is right now. Okay! We're GONNA. Get into all Dell Beckham junior now and. It is terrifying to be avoiding Beckham giving his upside, but that's what. We have to do with his current draft costs. He has been already missed. Twenty one games in his six year career and he's really should have missed several last you dealing with already core injury and Kevin's fancy is going to institute. They run heavy attack as he didn't Minnesota with a forty eight run rate four. Most in the league that was in Beckham won't see the same twenty four point nine target's share, as he did last year with the addition of Austin Hooper and with Kareem Hunt involved for a full season, considering the injury history, the reduced targets in the fact that he hasn't talked seven touchdowns twenty sixteen. People are fading at his current price, and that makes a lot of sense. I would be in the same boat. In fact I am in the same boat I honestly have no problem with passing them for multiple drafts because I just don't know Cleveland I. Don't know what their attempts are going to be. And I, just don't see it. Next is a surprising one. Is Devante Parker on the surface? It appears Parker finally broke it in his fifth nfl year, but the. Consensus. Of the circumstances that conspired to result in his first thousand yard season won't be replicated into twenty. The Dolphins had the worst rushing game in the league, second worst defense, and no other capable wide receivers from week one through nine when Preston Williams on the field parker averaged three point five receptions for fifty yards per game in eight games from week ten on, he racked up one hundred yards per game with Williams shelled in the fens, constantly playing from behind the return of Williams. The additions of Jordan Howard in Matt Braida at running back in insertion of rookie quarterback will revert Parker to a boom or bust. Flex play each week. Next on the is Melvin Gordon so. We will not be having any Gordon of on our team for fantasy. GMC and here's why so. That the price of He's going for now I can't imagine it. There are a few reasons for this one. He is on a new team and he has to learn new offense offense lying on my meetings to his only one season, where he is rushed for more than four yards per carry his volume touchdowns in receiving work. Have really carried his value thus far in his career in three. We all like Denver. Offense and there are new pretty toys, but we do. We really think that it's going to get Gordon the amount of work. He got it in prime chargers offense of days. Don't forget that they still have Philip Lindsey. Who We don't think is going to let Gordon take seventy percent of backfield touches, so he's GonNa. Be Sharing touches film Lindsey and are pretty equal as far as skill level in my opinion that just do different things. And it's going to be a tough. Running back Kerry. Share their. Next Evan Ingram, a very controversial guy in the tight end Space Evan Ingram is the easy answer for a lot of people. He issue staying healthy over the past couple of seasons, plus this is a loaded receiving core. The targets will be split pretty evenly in. He's coming off a foot injury that had him in. So Ingram certainly talented, and we like him as a player, but everything has not gone his way, and it would have to go his way from the return value on his current ADP and people are staying far away. And last on this list. Is Todd Gurley so could girly have a bounce back season. Improve former team wrong shirt. Could he see little to no goal line touches, and his knees were down throughout the season. That's pretty harsh. That's also possible I feel or we find that the ladder to be slightly more likely given that we already know about his knees. And people are not willing to spend the third round pick on a player with documented knee issues, and that makes sense that's like. You know draft one. Oh, one! If you know. Some guy has an injury history. You, don't want to get involved with him too much. I wouldn't want to. All that much so. I did skip one guy that dairy guys because I feel like. This is kind of a no brainer. You know after missing the entire rookie season with a torn ACL in eighteen. Guys then suffered another injury in twenty in week, one of the two thousand nineteen season, and he matches the Comeback Week. Eleven played four games in suffered. An MC L. Sprain missed the final three matches of the year and twosies he's has had forty two carries a two hundred, fifty, two hundred forty five yards. Fantasy football players should not only question guys health, but also if he's worthy of being drafted as the number twenty seven, running back, which is where he's going to be unhappy. PR draft according to the latest fantasy prose, average draft position data with Adrian Peterson still in the mix new offense in Washington in a gadget rookie in Antonio Gibson. Guy says price point is just too costly. Considering the negative variables and I think that's just a lot of words to say, the Dude hasn't played. He hasn't been on the field and he hasn't been healthy. And when you have health concerns in fantasy football, there's nothing worse, so you have to be able. To look at the big picture if he's on your draft board and you have them this high. You should probably reconsider you need to start. Taking injuries more into account in your draft boards and it's something I have to do more to because last year. I didn't really take into Odell injury history that much because it seemed like he would be healthy, didn't play. That must begin with and when he got to Cleveland and because he didn't come healthier. And bit me from the behind. Injuries happen. Injuries are part of the game, so you can't always predict when somebody is going to get hurt or if somebody is going to be healthier than they seem, but. You know the quote. was somebody shows you who they are, you should believe them I'm not saying that someone like Darius guys showing me that he's Henry his injury. History makes him unreliable, but what? He's shown me thus far have to believe what it is. He is not trustworthy to be at the position. That, his draft position currently and I will not draft from there. Honestly wouldn't dropped a lot of players at the positions for injury. Reasons like Todd Gurley of course even Ingram. Himself in dairy guys. and honestly. Aj Brown. He's not injured, but. Just for where he's being placed in. Tennessee offense. I really do feel at Tennessee was just a flash in the PAN for the most part in now we're dealing with the over correction on how we feel about them. As a whole unit, I like Mike Gravel, I liked their team by just don't see them being a team that is going to start balancing their attack on offense. That just never was emo. It hasn't been their mo since. You Know Derrick Henry has been there in the first place, and it would only make sense that figure something else out. As an play action style offense rather than trying to get everybody else involved on the outside when you have someone like Derrick Henry who basically almost got you superbowl by himself? All right, so we're GONNA take our final break, and then we'll get into last segment here at the GMC. Fantasy football podcast will be right back. Out Show built around the women of. From the UFC to the extreme cage fighting, we got the fights cover. The Golden State media concept's women's MMA podcast. The latest news of upcoming flights discussions of reviews matches. Join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in. Mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game, you know where to listen to the golden state mutual concepts women's MMA podcast. Welcome back to GNC fantasy football podcast where? We are going to end our show today. A little bit of fun I wanted to talk about. Some of my most memorable fantasy. Moments as far as Trade's trades or just things that really. Really highlight some of the fantasy action that I receive on a yearly basis, and some of it is football. Some of it is not football, actually fancy related and find the story just to be a little bit funny so. I wanted to talk about. The fantasy story of recent that is not football, but in fact it's virtual basketball, so it's NBA Two K.. I was in A. Fantasy. Minor League. If you understand what my league is basically playing association mode if you're older crowd and play again if you never play video games, then your life is basically where you joined with a bunch of other people control one team. In the neutral one out of the thirty two. In the NBA and you basically managed them like a GM, and you play games, and you go up against other people you make trades, you can go to draft and Fantasy League setting of course you draft a team pool of players from across the League, and you make your own team from scratch, and you roll with that for the rest of your days. The interesting part of this fantasy league was. They! Put in legends in the game. So Real interesting thing about to Kaley updated. Customize your minor leagues, and you can make some really really interesting historic classes. You can do class specific drives you can do. Fantasy draft you have. Every. Version of NBA all late legend, or you can just have one like the one best version of him, and you can draft in among everybody else on the current rosters who there was prime shack. They were Prime Kobe Bryant there was prime. Akeem Lajoie on Prime Michael, Jordan all of them. The best regiments themselves in the draft and people were going bananas. So. I believe my team I had prime version. Blake Griffin and Anthony Davis. And Rondo? I just had a bunch of people who I enjoy watching my team wasn't that good though and. You know to? Kate has its own problems. As far as what's good and what's not, but that's besides the point. What I'm talking about is really the trades in how people marketed themselves. To make their teams better for the long term, because this isn't just about you, people play, and they determine the status about you have to physically play the game. He and you have to compete against other people. And you want the best people possible well, maybe even four days after the drive. Me and my friend Dario we log onto the game. We're looking at the Miley or looking at the trades. The translate what you can do because there are some CPU's. controlling teams of you'd have to bargain off a playoff them and it's kind of difficult to bargain CPU dreams to trade with US sometimes you use this tool. Call the trade finder where you can put up a player that you own. On the team. And put him up for basically kind of like oxygen or some sort of trade finder, so they'll find it trade via all the rest of the teams that sound logical to CPU. And you can choose out of one of them to make said trade, or you just see what the value is for certain players as our. I checked value for my players all the time. and. While I was doing that. We see this notification. Go across the screen. Saying that Michael. Jordan was traded and it was, he was traded. To the best player in the League at the time. For pennies on the dollar and I mean like it was for nothing. Because there is no stipulations you don't. All you have to do is match salaries. And it has nothing to do with how good the player is not portrayed I. Mean That's how it is in real life except for you. Have you understand when player is better than one another? But in two K, all you have to do is match salaries, and that's fine. So they matched the salaries in somehow, this guy ended up getting Michael Jordan for a no name guy. Who, who did matter in the dude ends of quitting the League directly after secured after trading, Michael Jordan away. So we sound the alarm in the in the group chat because it's kind of like a bomb, essentially I'm like Yo. What transfer was just happened? We just Michael Jordan. Just get transferred over for pennies on the dollar. The do left the group jet the do left. The League. Something fishy just went down and we got a sound the alarm so I'm family group chat. Dario Spam Group Chat. We're trying to get answers because we don't know what's happening. The homeboy who ended up making the trade for Michael Jordan. He's just like a man. You know it's all about the player, not as the person with the sticks, and not about the cards you have you know like do that Michael. Jordan and he wasn't winning I'm just like apparently. The do was his cousin. So. All I can say is if he really wanted to win the league. It just sound like he just say hey man. I'll pay you five dollars. 'cause there's no. We didn't play for money, so he's like I'll give you five dollars. Right now for Michael Jordan and that's what basically what happened. And he got him. So. Everybody's just all yeah man Integrity League is gone. We can't have this. There's no parody now to do as Michael Jordan. And he already had like Prime Derrick rose and the white, and it was just out of control. And the League just sorta basically vanished in thin area. Which is, it was done? Everybody left everybody has the pride left and that was it. So. It was a funny story. Is I never? It was just the audacity of the trade that made everybody so upset. It was like you can't do this. That's the case. I'm selling all my good players to make a profit Mike. I'm not getting any money by playing in this so I might as well get twenty dollars to virtual players that I did no work to earn. Yes, sure give me that so I found that pretty funny. There was a trade last year in fantasy football. For Ezekiel Elliott so. Ezekiel Elliott got traded for Mark Ingram and I believe David. Montgomery David Montgomery. Didn't have the best season as people predicted him to have so a Mark Ingram was kind of coming on at a time where the ravens were slowing down, and not as in like they weren't winning games and they weren't. I mean isn't they weren't dominating dominating mark, Ingram wasn't over here at twenty, three twenty two fantasy points a game or something like that. And Zeke was feasting at the time. So is trae happens to the guy. Who essentially wasn't a top spot of the league. He gives Zeke Elliott. Everybody's in immediate uproar. And this is where being gm or I'm sorry when you're being a commissioner of a fantasy league, you have to make a decision if you care about parody of leagues and competition more than this guy is a grown human being. Who traded with another human being, and they made a trade that they agreed upon, and thus whatever happens. Is Beyond your control. You cannot veto the trade because the trade happened within the guidelines of what the League's dance for so of course is a big uproar about it. The trade does not get reversed. And, that's just end all. Be All of it but i. just find those situations kind of telling because I haven't been a commissioner in about three years now and I'm planning to be one soon if the League starts up, so it's just another reminder that you have to know. What your core values are in your league if you care more about leak parody. Veto trade if you care more about. People's right to choose whether or not what to do with their team, no matter the consequences, and how it affects the rest of the League. Then you go with that route and you probably don't vetoed trade. And most don't. I don't I'm not a fan of. Having a veto by committee system, so like the rest of the league veto stuff because that can kind of get as much as people hate the idea of collusion. You can say that vetoing trade. Because you just don't like the guy or you're in competition. Right and you don't want somebody to get a spot over you in the playoffs because they made a decent trae that you couldn't acquire. That wouldn't be cool. That wouldn't be coacher so. You don't want that either so either you veto or there's no veto at all, and that can be a little bit taxing on the commissioner in every day settings. Another traded that I found pretty interesting. Last year was the Antonio Brown fiasco. My friend David he he tried to get Antonio. Brown and he successfully got him via trade and. At this moment in time I, believe Antonio Brown did not play a game for the raiders, so people are scrambling trying to figure out what's going to happen. We don't know of until you in the play in the season so. He ends. He's not on the radio at this point. David makes a trade for Antonio Brown. Remember what he traded him for think it was not much. And, it was a risk for David. So the you know the commissioner was like okay. Whatever you know, you have no idea what's going to happen and you know if you find immediate value within a be then, congratulations, you've broke the code, but if you get sold out and he doesn't end up doing well or he doesn't find team. Then that's on you. Of course you know, the rest ABC signed with the Patriots orchestrated through the Patriots. And the Patriots play him in one game, and then he's done so. He got absolutely really one game out of value from ABC and I'm not even sure if he won that week when he had a B., but that ended up being what happened, and it was really funny, because he's still talks about it right now. To this day that that was the mark of his season right, there are told him. If you get a B.. Is GonNa be like getting bad luck because. Every team that he's came from. is saying that yeah, it's probably better for the for the rest of us that we have here in the leading to walk, so you think cause a fantasy reasons. This just means that I'm getting immense value cheaper on the dollar because nobody wants to deal with the head case, and what ends up happening is a D. or a be head case moment. Literally not even two weeks in New England. And you lose out, you lose out on the trade by default, because essentially traded for nothing, you trade it for one week value that I don't even remember if you was not so. This goes to show you sometimes trying to trade. For the hot commodity is of like Veon. Did Not play for the entire season, there is chant. of He was not going to play or not. And there was a time where people were like you to sell avion yet, Sylviane and my friend Dario. No not selling them. He come back and play. I'll get more value later on when decides to come back for the season? Lay on, never came back, so he? He would have gotten really good value. Literally the day after the draft, but since he held onto it. No one ever traded levy on with them. And that was it and he never received the same deals. Even if people were interested in CEO, maybe leave me on. Does come back? He never received the same deals again, and that was something that always hung over his head for that whole season at that's why. You should always believe with people show you. Because you never know how they will change if they ever change their mind, but like the old proverb is always said to be if somebody shows you who they are, believe them. Don't you start making stuff up thinking that they aren't who they say they are. Or what they show you who they are to be? Because it's a falsehood. Now that I'm not trying to get off philosophical. This is fantasy football, but same details apply you know. 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